[0:47] In the way you wear my bags, you're gonna cut the clothes. And then they produce a big, big, big smile. But right now, all of them are in full and fair.

[1:10] Thank you so much.

[2:20] Yeah, follow.

[2:24] One of one one.

[2:28] Yeah.

[2:31] There you go.

[2:32] There you go.

[2:33] There you go.

[2:34] Oh, no, they're all separated.

[2:36] The packets are ready to separate it for you.

[2:37] I don't want you to like go through real hard, maybe a little bit, it's a pocket, it's one of them.

[2:38] They don't want you to like go through the whole half.

[2:41] Literally.

[2:42] It's a packet.

[2:42] It's one of them.

[2:44] Yeah.

[2:46] So, it's a packet.

[2:49] Thank you.

[2:50] Thank you, I'm the answer for the answer.

[2:52] The law says, and I'm not going to get into it.

[2:56] But it's great.

[2:57] What is it?

[2:57] It's going to have a report right in the right side.

[3:00] It's going to be great.

[3:01] It's going to be great.

[3:06] So this last year, the rest of my team,

[3:11] on this person.

[3:13] Thank you.

[4:21] Well, what do you think we can get going without her?

[4:25] I think we got three or four to start.

[4:28] You look pretty good.

[4:29] You know what I mean?

[4:33] I don't know where she went.

[4:37] What do you think we want to take her back?

[4:39] She already checked the rest.

[4:43] Okay.

[5:55] We're going to call

[6:17] I call this meeting order of the California City Planning Commission.

[6:20] this meeting in the order of the California City Planning Commission, and we're holding our meeting at the City Hall in California City.

[6:24] and we're holding our meeting at the City Hall in California City.

[6:31] First we have Pledge of Allegiance, and then, uh, let me ask.

[6:32] First, we have pledge allegiance, and then, let me ask,

[6:48] all right, please rise for the pledge

[6:48] All right, please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

[6:50] allegiance.

[6:51] We're happy you want to start it?

[6:52] Yeah, can too.

[6:52] Yeah, can't you. Thank

[6:53] Thank

[6:56] you.

[6:56] Ready?

[6:58] I pledge allegiance to the fly of the United States of America, and to the Republic for

[6:58] I pledge allegiance to the fly of the United States of America

[7:02] and to the Republic for which it stands.

[7:04] for which it stands, one nation under God,

[7:06] One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[7:09] indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[7:13] Salina is going to do a short invocation for us.

[7:14] Selina is going to do a short invocation for us.

[7:17] Down there, up here.

[7:17] Down there up here.

[7:18] Right here.

[7:19] You can turn on the mic and please go.

[7:23] There you go.

[7:25] All right.

[7:26] Let's bow our heads.

[7:28] I just want to say, Lord, thank you for allowing us

[7:28] I just want to say, Lord, thank you for allowing us to have this plan and meeting, let it serve

[7:30] to have this plan and meeting, let it serve the people

[7:33] the people in the best way that we can and let it use your hands and guidance through this

[7:34] in the best way that we can and let us use your hands and guide us through this meeting and through

[7:40] meeting and through our city and let us go in the right direction as you see fit for all of

[7:40] our city and let us go in the right direction as you see fit for all of us as Jesus name

[7:44] us.

[7:45] Jesus name amen.

[7:45] amen. Amen. Thank you. Very nice. Thank you. Okay. City Clerk, do we have roll call please?

[7:46] Amen.

[7:47] Thank you.

[7:48] Very nice.

[7:49] Thank you.

[7:51] I want to.

[7:52] Okay.

[7:53] City Clerk.

[7:54] We have roll call, please.

[7:59] Mr. McComan.

[7:59] Commissioner.

[8:00] Come in.

[8:01] Here.

[8:02] Commissioner Marsh is absent for the record.

[8:02] Ms. Chairman Marsh is absent for the record.

[8:06] Yes.

[8:06] Ms. Chairman Control.

[8:07] Commissioner Cantrell.

[8:08] Here.

[8:10] and Chairman Frottland.

[8:10] And Chairman Frottley.

[8:13] Thank you.

[8:14] Okay.

[8:15] Okay.

[8:16] Next is adopt the agenda.

[8:16] And next is adopt the agenda.

[8:18] Has everybody had a chance to look at it?

[8:18] Has everybody had a chance to look at it.

[8:20] And if there's any questions or anything on the agenda itself.

[8:20] And if there's any questions or anything on the agenda itself?

[8:26] Commissioners, anything?

[8:26] Commissioner's anything.

[8:29] I make a motion to adopt the agenda as is.

[8:29] I'd make a motion to adopt the agenda as is.

[8:32] Thank you.

[8:33] I'll second. I second the motion. Okay. Roll call please. Commissioner Colman. Yes. Commissioner

[8:34] Oh, second.

[8:36] I second the motion.

[8:38] OK.

[8:39] Roll call, please.

[8:42] Commissioner Colman, yes.

[8:44] Commissioner Cantrell.

[8:45] Cantrell. Yes. And Chairman Browland. Yes. Thank you. Okay. The disclosure of site visits

[8:46] Yes.

[8:47] And Chairman Brulland.

[8:49] Thank you.

[8:51] OK.

[8:52] The disclosure of sight visits in expertity context,

[8:53] an expertise context. Commissioner Colman anything to this week. I'm not sure if I'm supposed

[8:55] Commissioner Coleman, anything to this week?

[9:00] I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say this one,

[9:01] to say this one, because I don't see it on here, but I did go by the facility over there

[9:02] because I don't see it on here.

[9:04] But I did go by the facility over there

[9:08] by Cal City Boulevard in Conflict.

[9:08] by CalCity Boulevard in Conkland.

[9:11] Okay.

[9:13] The core, core civics?

[9:13] The core, core civics, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not even close to that.

[9:15] No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not even close to that.

[9:18] I know, I sure which one was that.

[9:18] I know, I sure would, which one was that?

[9:22] That's supposed to be for some building or something.

[9:22] That's supposed to be for some building or something, that there's supposed to be building

[9:25] That's something that they're supposed to be building on.

[9:27] on.

[9:28] Oh, okay.

[9:29] All right.

[9:29] Well, that's fine.

[9:30] Well, that's fine.

[9:32] Commissioner Cantrell?

[9:32] nothing. Thank you. And I have nothing to declare either. Next we have public business from the

[9:33] Nothing.

[9:33] Thank you.

[9:34] And I have nothing to declare either.

[9:37] Next we have public business from the floor.

[9:39] floor. This portion of the meeting is reserved for public to address the planning commission

[9:40] This portion of the meeting is reserved for public to address the planning commission on any manner,

[9:44] on any manner not on the agenda in over which the Planning Commission has jurisdiction.

[9:46] not on the agenda,

[9:48] and over which the planning commission has jurisdiction.

[9:51] Comments are to be limited to three minutes.

[9:51] Comments are to be limited to three minutes. Planning Commission will receive the comments,

[9:53] Planning commission will receive the comments,

[9:56] But cannot engage in back and forth discussion with the public or make any decision.

[9:56] but cannot engage in back and forth discussion with the public or make any decision.

[10:00] The Planning Commission made direct staff to bring the item back for a future agenda for discussion.

[10:01] The Planning Commission may direct staff to bring the item back for a future agenda for discussion.

[10:11] All right.

[10:12] Let me see if there's any hands up on Zoom.

[10:15] I don't see any any in-house for general public comments.

[10:23] Oh, I do have one.

[10:25] Now there's okay. I've got two. Okay, let's go with, well, he disappeared. Okay.

[10:26] Now, there's, okay, I've got two.

[10:28] Okay, let's go with, well, he disappeared.

[10:32] Okay, Mayor Hawkins has called in, please let us know what's on your mind, sir.

[10:34] Mayor Hawkins has called in. Please, let us know what's on your mind,

[10:49] sir.

[10:49] Your muted, sir, if you're trying to speak.

[10:59] Do you see here?

[10:59] Can you hear me now?

[10:59] And hear me now?

[11:01] Okay, yes we can.

[11:01] Okay, yes, we can. Thank you.

[11:02] Thank you.

[11:03] Yeah, so I just heard someone repeat very negative and derogatory

[11:03] So I've just heard someone repeat very negative and derogatory epitaph about three or four times.

[11:07] Epitat about three or four times.

[11:10] Just please be mindful of that.

[11:13] Thank you.

[11:14] Don't know if I can get rid of it.

[11:14] I don't know if I can get rid of it, but it's good to go back to the corner.

[11:16] Let's get rid of it.

[11:18] Go back to the corner.

[11:20] There's someone who needs to mute themselves as well.

[11:26] Okay, sir.

[11:28] That was it.

[11:29] Thank you.

[11:30] Okay.

[11:30] Okay, thank you.

[11:31] Thank you.

[11:33] And that completes hands-up on Zoom

[11:33] And that completes hands-up on Zoom and nobody has stepped forward for general public comment.

[11:36] and nobody has stepped forward for general public comment.

[11:39] So we will move on to our next item in our agenda.

[11:43] And that's a consent calendar.

[11:46] C.C. one tonight will be the meeting minutes

[11:47] CC1 tonight will be the meeting minutes from the last meeting in September 2, 2025.

[11:49] from the last meeting in September 2nd, 2025.

[11:53] Commissioners, do you have any comments or recommend

[11:53] Commissioners, do you have any comments or recommended changes, et cetera?

[11:56] to changes, et cetera?

[12:02] Okay, Commissioner Coleman's negative?

[12:02] Okay. Commissioner Cuomo's negative?

[12:07] I have no comment.

[12:08] Okay, do I have a motion to accept those minutes?

[12:08] Okay. Do I have a motion to accept those minutes?

[12:17] I make a motion to accept the minutes.

[12:19] Okay.

[12:21] I second that motion.

[12:22] Okay, could I get a roll call vote, please?

[12:24] Can I get a roll call?

[12:25] Vote please?

[12:28] Commissioner Colman?

[12:28] Commissioner Coleman?

[12:30] Yes.

[12:31] Commissioner Cantrell?

[12:33] Yes.

[12:33] And Chairman Brottland?

[12:34] And Chairman Brottland?

[12:35] Yes.

[12:35] Thank you.

[12:38] Okay.

[12:38] Okay, first information item tonight.

[12:38] First information item tonight.

[12:41] We're going to be getting an update on the six cycle housing element that's in progress right now.

[12:42] We're going to be getting an update on the six cycle housing element that's in progress right now.

[12:48] Could we get a staff report, please, from our planning director?

[12:53] Thank

[12:57] Thank you.

[12:57] you. Good evening, Chair. Commissioners and members of the public. Today we have an information item. It is an update on the six cycle housing element.

[12:58] Good evening, Chair.

[13:00] Commissioners and members of the public.

[13:02] Today we have an information item.

[13:05] It is an update on the six cycle housing element.

[13:08] The purpose of this update is to provide the commission with the most recent status on the city's preparation and anticipated adoption timeline for the six cycle housing element.

[13:09] The purpose of this update is to provide the commission with the most recent status on the city's preparation and anticipated adoption timeline for the six cycle housing element.

[13:21] The cycle is due 2023 to 2021.

[13:21] the cycle is due 2023 to 2021 state law requires all cities that are too adult by housing

[13:27] State law requires all cities that too adult by housing element as part of the general plan to discuss

[13:30] element as part of the general plan to discuss local housing needs and to comply with

[13:34] local housing needs and to comply with tertiary requirements.

[13:36] tutory requirements. Staff has been coordinating closely with the city attorney's office to ensure

[13:39] Staff has been coordinating closely with the city attorney's office to ensure that all legal and procedural requirements for the public hearing notices are satisfied.

[13:43] that all legal and procedural requirements for the public hearing notices are satisfied.

[13:49] This coordination resulted in postponements of the originally scheduled hearings in November

[13:49] This coordination resulted in postponements of the originally scheduled hearings in November and early December.

[13:55] and early December.

[13:57] As a result, the noted public hearings are formal consideration by the planning commission is now scheduled for January of 2022.

[13:58] As a result, the noted public hearings are formal consideration by the planning commission

[14:03] is now scheduled for January of 2022.

[14:08] Following commission action, the housing element will be forwarded to city council for file adoption and submission to HCD.

[14:08] Following commission action, the housing element will be forwarded to city council for

[14:12] file adoption and submission to HCD.

[14:16] At this time, this item is provided just for information and no action is required from the commission.

[14:17] At this time, this item is provided just for information

[14:21] and no action is required from the commission.

[14:24] Staff is available to ask for any questions regarding the status or on the next steps.

[14:24] Staff is available to ask for any questions

[14:26] regarding the status or on the next steps.

[14:29] Thank you.

[14:32] Thank you.

[14:34] Commissioner, any questions?

[14:39] No questions.

[14:41] OK, I have a couple of questions.

[14:41] Okay.

[14:41] I have a couple of questions.

[14:44] Has the actual housing element now been completed with all state reviews required?

[14:56] We have been issued something called a condition.

[15:00] General compliance by a city. Okay, very good. Thank you. And then I would appreciate a brief explanation on how this

[15:11] inner acts with these zone text amendments that will be coming, whether they're dependent on each other, the housing element report and the zone text amendment.

[15:22] amendments. Could you clarify, and I know that we're going to have to hear the zone text amendments in the future, but are they interdependent or can we just go ahead and press on with the housing element and in zone text amendments later?

[15:40] Thank you for the question.

[15:43] So we are working very closely with the City Attorney's Office on this one.

[15:48] Kristi, do you want to comment on the Zontext amendments for the housing element?

[15:57] Yes, thank you so much a new.

[15:59] This is Kristi Marie Lopez assisted city attorney for the city.

[16:04] So under state law, the city is obligated to update its housing element and as part of that

[16:11] obligation when the city meets that requirements that allows the city to be eligible for certain

[16:17] grant funding and all sorts of wonderful things, which is important as you might imagine

[16:23] to the city.

[16:24] So the priority would be to adopt the housing element.

[16:27] Once the housing element is adopted, that housing element has provisions in there that anticipate

[16:34] future changes to our code. So the zone text amendments will reflect what is incorporated into

[16:44] the housing element, which will be, you know, it could be, and a new will better be able to

[16:49] better describe what the distinctions are, but if there's a general plan amendment or a zone

[16:54] map amendment, that would allow for housing in that particular area that is not currently allowed in,

[17:01] that will come to the commission in the future for its consideration at that time.

[17:06] The staff will explain to you that this is part of the process that's required by the already adopted housing element.

[17:14] But that is the how their relationship works.

[17:18] They don't often happen at the same time, because the housing element update is a pretty large project to undertake.

[17:26] And then as that gets adopted and certified by HCD,

[17:32] we'll then come back with you with the Zone text amendments,

[17:35] which are necessary as a result of that newly adopted housing element.

[17:42] Okay, thank you so much for the explanation.

[17:46] Okay, Commissioner Cantrell has a question.

[17:49] I believe that during their last review,

[17:52] we had received a conditional compliance notice

[17:56] notice from the state, but that some additional work had to be done to the planned in order to

[18:04] finalize that. So, is it my understanding that some work has to be done in order to pull us

[18:14] into full compliance and that work will not be completed until sometime in January?

[18:20] I

[18:25] knew with respect to the housing element and its finalization, you would speak to that.

[18:32] The Zoom text amendments would typically come after the housing element has been finalized and adopted.

[18:37] So I'll let a new speak to any changes in the housing element since it was last before the commission.

[18:43] Yeah, thank you commissioner Ken Trump for that question.

[18:47] So I don't believe that is entirely true.

[18:49] We are conditionally compliant in applying that the

[18:53] minute this city adopts the housing element that makes us

[18:57] compliant with state law. So according to its city,

[19:03] they have pretty much said okay to our version of the housing

[19:06] element the way that it has been submitted after

[19:08] I believe three to four iterations.

[19:14] Okay, so while that's necessary then to be in

[19:17] and quote full compliance is just to have the city council do one final review and a vote.

[19:24] And that is correct. We adopted and then we file our secret documentation with this state that brings us into

[19:31] full compliance.

[19:34] And then the interim step is it comes to the planning commission first and then the council.

[19:41] That's what's on the 6th of January.

[19:47] Okay. Thank you. All right. Do we have any public comments on this

[19:51] information item.

[19:55] No hands raised on Zoom and nobody in the queue in chambers. So we'll

[20:02] consider this discussion complete on this information item and we will move on to the

[20:08] Department report.

[20:15] So this cycle of the Department report we do have a couple of new projects

[20:20] that came in specifically on the housing front.

[20:26] We also do have a church, a CUP20502 is a major, CUP, the church is planning on expanding.

[20:35] We do have a public hearing for that project scheduled on January 6th.

[20:41] Another housing project we're looking into is an RV park, sorry, SPR 2517, cuttingage investment

[20:50] is also a 30 to 32 unit apartment complex. We did issue our first round of comments to the applicant

[21:00] and we end this fate meeting with them this week to go over our comments.

[21:07] Another one is a six unit

[21:10] multi-family housing unit in between we do have a few minor SVRs that we did approve

[21:18] a notary abuse supply store and a thrift store and we also have the financial reports

[21:27] from September of October and November for your review as part of the Department of

[21:32] I'm happy to ask for any questions.

[21:37] Thank you.

[21:38] Commissioner.

[21:38] Do you have any questions on the Department report?

[21:45] Commissioner Cantrell?

[21:46] No, I do not.

[21:50] I just had a general comment.

[21:53] This is a first department report that we've had in the last couple of months presented,

[22:00] because the September was our last time.

[22:01] And I just wanted to let the public know in case they haven't gone in and read the agenda.

[22:07] There has been a substantial increase in a number of projects coming into the planning department.

[22:13] And this thing doesn't even include all of the ministerial residential type things and that type of stuff.

[22:19] So that's a good thing for the city.

[22:22] And hopefully it will continue to progress.

[22:26] Any public comments on the Department reports?

[22:30] I have a Zoom hand up, Mayor Hawkins.

[22:35] Yes, I just had one question.

[22:37] I believe you had mentioned a list of grants that could be available once the housing element was adopted.

[22:45] One of you can provide me with that list.

[22:47] If you have it, if not understand, but I'd like to know what that list would be going forward.

[22:54] If it went, the council does, in fact, adopt the housing out.

[23:01] Thank you.

[23:03] Thank you.

[23:04] Anybody from in chamber?

[23:08] Because it's not in actual list of projects, we do have the planning recap on financial reports

[23:15] and I had one question on that.

[23:18] in the November portion because this this covered September October and November in the November

[23:27] listing there was an SPR major that

[23:31] was addressed and I was wondering what that was because the planning commission didn't see that or maybe it was

[23:40] for some reason considered ministerial I don't know. So what's a situation on that please?

[23:45] I

[23:47] believe this is for the housing,

[23:53] the SPR-2517.

[23:56] Well, no, this is on your planning recap with the totals, with the funding that you received.

[24:04] And there was one SPR major listed under new projects in.

[24:09] It doesn't have any number assigned to it or anything.

[24:11] It's just like there was one project.

[24:14] That's all at the information that's on there.

[24:15] That's why I'm asking a question.

[24:18] So,

[24:22] if it has got to be one of the housing projects, either the 30 units or the six units,

[24:29] those are the only two majors that we had in the last two months.

[24:32] Okay, so is this something that's going to be coming up in the future then?

[24:36] Definitely yes.

[24:37] Okay, very good.

[24:39] That answers my question.

[24:41] We'll see it when it gets here.

[24:43] Because they have to, this is their financial, so they can show how many projects they address

[24:47] and the amount of money they received for starting the project.

[24:55] Um, all right.

[24:57] Anything else for planning department, the second call from the public, if has anybody?

[25:03] Mayor Hawkins, do you have your hand up again or okay, you're okay, you're okay, very good.

[25:07] You cleared it.

[25:09] All right.

[25:13] Next, Ron, the new business.

[25:18] This is a hearing for the Core Civic Project.

[25:25] Let me find my page that has that information.

[25:41] Just bear with me when moment please.

[25:44] I had it here.

[25:48] Yeah, I know that there was a, oh, here it is, or no, that's the housing element, projects,

[25:57] oh, here it is.

[25:58] Okay, found it. Sorry for the delay folks. Okay.

[26:03] This will be a hearing for on the course of operation of immigrant attention facility within the city.

[26:10] We will be conducting this, although it's a hearing, so we have a set criteria pretty similar to our regular criteria that we use for going through this.

[26:22] So, I have called the item that is in discussion, and could I get a staff presentation, please?

[26:28] Thank

[26:32] you, Chair.

[26:33] So staff received a site plan review application from

[26:37] course civic for the operation of a detention center at an existing facility within California city.

[26:45] The application is currently under administrative review and staff is evaluating it for compliance with applicable zoning land use and design standards.

[26:55] According to the California City Municipal Code, the type of application is ministerial,

[26:59] Meaning that city staff must approve the project if it needs all objectives requirements set forth within the city's code and regulations.

[27:11] A ministerial review does not involve discretion or policy judgment.

[27:16] The planning commission at this time is not a decision-making body for this ministerial SPR.

[27:21] Senate Bill 29 requires 180 day public hearing notice and two public meetings before a city and we are required to issue permits or building permits for the reuse of existing buildings.

[27:38] by a private corporation to detain non-citizens.

[27:42] We are required to comply with SB 29.

[27:46] And tonight's agenda is the second hearing

[27:49] where we receive public hearing public input.

[27:53] Sorry, and we provide transparency to the extent.

[27:57] The SBIR approval constitutes a permit

[28:00] for the building or reuse of existing buildings.

[28:04] Again, the planning commission at this time

[28:06] is not being asked to make any fine things, impose conditions or take any action on the

[28:16] SPR, we are not asking the commission to make a proposed permits entitlements. None of them

[28:23] have been issued at this time for this proposed use either. So staff continues to review the

[28:29] application and may anticipate that it may move forward to approval once compliant for this

[28:35] 29, as sorry, SB 29 is established, our next steps within our departments would be to document the hearing, document the comments received and responses as part of the administrative record for

[28:51] S.P.R. on course civic, upon confirmation of compliance with S.B. 29, and

[29:01] applicable to municipal standards, staff may proceed with an administrative

[29:06] approval of the S.P.R. because it is ministerial in nature. We will provide any

[29:12] future updates to the planning commission and city council as they become

[29:16] available. At this time staff's recommendation is that we receive and file the report concerning the SB29 hearing and the status of the ministerial SBR submitted by course of it. Once again, no action is being asked from the commission at this time simply because the application is mirror and ministerial. This is a staff level decision given that there's compliance to the municipal code.

[29:45] I'm available for questions.

[29:50] Thank you so much for the staff update.

[29:53] Go to the commissioner's first. Does anybody have any comments before we start?

[30:01] Okay, neither do I. So, we will move on to the next sequence is the public comment. This will be conducted just like our regular public comment, where comments are will be limited to three minutes, and the commission will receive the comments, but cannot engage in back and forth discussions with the public. And you already know we're not making any decisions tonight.

[30:28] So,

[30:31] I'm going to go ahead, let's start with Zoom tonight, because there's a few more people up there, we don't have that many people in the chamber.

[30:41] So, let's start with Zoom tonight. The first person up there with their hand up is MH. Would you please unmute and go ahead for your three minutes?

[30:52] And yes, good evening commissioners, my name is Marcella Hernandez, with the attention watch network where National Network of More Than 100 Organizations, advocating for immigrant rights with the focus on Indian immigrant attention since we know it is deadly and very violent to our communities.

[31:13] Today, we are here to ask you to ask more questions about this permit process, it is our legal analysis that, of course, it is not applying for the right permit that they need to apply for a conditional use permit. This is something that they have applied for in the past in the other California city.

[31:43] Please make sure you mute your microphones. It's waiting in and interfering with the public comment. Thank you very much.

[32:02] Okay, thank you, interpreter. Okay. Okay. My time was passed. Yeah, Amh, you, you go ahead and continue, please.

[32:11] Okay, thank you. And so we, yeah, we want to, it would be great to get a second analysis because we don't think we're applying for the right permit. Also, we are wondering why they have open and have been detaining more than 100 people.

[32:28] people that are suffering a lot of abuse when the whole, it seems that our application hasn't been fully completed for review.

[32:38] And to end, I do want to read a testimony from a community member that has permum detained there.

[32:46] She wants to remain anonymous, you know, given that that's against immigrant communities.

[32:52] Right now, but one of our members also has a hotline.

[32:54] and they are serving hundreds of calls on the abuses that are happening there right now.

[32:59] So here's a testimony. I have not felt my mother's embrace in over two months is

[33:04] our kidnapping by an undentified man. She is held at Corps Civic and California City

[33:10] alongside other women of various ages, some as young as 20 and others as old as senior citizens

[33:17] and wheelchairs. She and her fellow community members have experienced a few make conditions.

[33:22] They are constantly cold and the building floods when there is a storm and tough bugs are narrow with no rail and has resulted in several woman falling and being sent to the clinic.

[33:35] Many can not see the doctor and suffer from unrelated to unrated various conditions.

[33:42] They don't always have access to water and when they do a taste heavily of chemicals and they often add sugar packages to make it drinkable.

[33:49] This things and much more are being sober by several innocent lives who saw it out to this country and opportunity for the families.

[33:57] To treat another human as less because of their place of origin or to call them.

[34:02] Hashtag alien is inhumane.

[34:04] I implore you to picture your mother, sister and grandmother in this conditions.

[34:09] It is not the first time people call her having antagonizing this country.

[34:13] Do not be a bad person in a future history books course civic is illegally operating and people are suffering. Do not be an accessory

[34:22] To their actions here are the voices of the people suffering and make the necessary changes within your powers. Okay, time is up. Thank you. Okay. Thank you

[34:32] Daniel you're next

[34:37] No, I go three and three

[34:42] Daniel you can unmute and speak on Zoom

[34:56] But, yes, so my name is Daniel, I worked for a organization for an immigrant population.

[35:06] And I just want to share a testimony of one of our clients who wish to remain anonymous.

[35:14] And this is one of our clients that was also recent recently.

[35:19] And he shared his testimony regarding what he had experienced while he was inside.

[35:28] I arrived at our Golden State annex around the 11 A.M. after spinning three days in the ice holding tank.

[35:35] We did not get to the dorm until 4 a.m. the next morning.

[35:39] During this time, our witness and man being denied his heart medicine.

[35:43] We were denitling water to drink, the detention center was built in, it did not have enough paid

[35:49] orders to clean, so unpaid detainee were required to volunteer to force to live in the

[35:57] unscennitarian environment. It also lacked sufficient clean supply, the chemical were overly

[36:03] with it, and we had to use a garbage can as the press of water. The risk of infection was very high.

[36:19] Okay, thank you so much. Next on Zoom is RJ, please unmute and let us know.

[36:28] Okay, thank you. Okay, thank you.

[36:30] Good evening, thank you.

[36:31] I'm an organizer.

[36:33] With the dignity and attention coalition.

[36:37] And our basically, and I'm here to share testimony from somebody who's basically in detention

[36:43] in California city at the moment.

[36:45] whose name is Leo, he was usually surprised that the doctors had messed up, they said my

[36:52] doctors had messed up my veins when I went to the hospital.

[36:56] I had a heart problem and a hernia.

[37:00] I was suffering from chest pains, but it took about 10 days for them to take me to the hospital.

[37:06] I had a negative experience.

[37:08] In the ambulance, I felt like my veins were being ripped out.

[37:11] After that, I always feel tired and I feel cold and unusual and I started to lose feelings in my hands.

[37:18] When I told the doctor about this at California City, they started laughing at me and taking my claims and not taking my claims seriously.

[37:28] When I was taken to the hospital, the facility staff kept all the info like the MRI results and prescription info.

[37:35] I'm supposed to get a copy, but never receive a physical copy of my paperwork.

[37:41] I was also supposed to get a check-up to two, but never did.

[37:47] If anyone needs medical attention, they need to show, they need to throw themselves on the floor,

[37:52] and act like you're dying, and not they'll not come to see you.

[37:56] I don't want to be paralyzed or blind by the time I get out of here.

[38:01] So basically this is a testimony from somebody who's in California City, who's suffering

[38:07] gross medical negligence in California City.

[38:09] And it's for this reason we're here to basically ask you and basically please please

[38:14] please basically deny the permits and to close out the facility because it shouldn't be

[38:18] operating especially since it's basically violating, you know, SB 29 and it's also

[38:22] valid and it's not as operating without the permits.

[38:25] But that being said, thank you for your time and hope you guys make the right decision

[38:30] Okay. Thank you. Okay. We're going to go back in Chamber and we'll do three folks in Chamber and then we'll go back to Zoom. Okay. Please go ahead.

[38:38] Good afternoon. I'm going to first read the comment from somebody that is currently attending California City and then I will make my own comment and they are residents of California City. Is that okay?

[38:49] Well, if it hits in three minutes, go for it.

[38:53] Okay, so the first I said copy of the former complaints into the Department of Homeland Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties.

[39:04] And this is from the Havodilmer, and they would like to formally submit a complaint with Office of Civil Rights and Liberties regarding an incident that occurred to them on November 22nd,

[39:13] involved in unconstitutional conditions of confinement,

[39:17] touch walkeratmen, and hostile living conditions.

[39:19] In violation of the aid of amendment,

[39:21] the alleged that they have interjected to a third

[39:24] of constitutional conditions of confinement,

[39:26] and they are requesting that the EHS office

[39:28] for civil rights and civil liberties investigate

[39:30] on the allegations I made in their grievance

[39:33] submitted to the California City Process Insider.

[39:36] They are providing this copy to make sure that their complaint

[39:38] is not lost misplaced or simply swept on their route.

[39:41] They have asked us to make aware of what is going on in the hostile condition of confinement in which the entertaining steps objected.

[39:49] In the hopes that their voices help others find themselves in similar situations.

[39:55] Good evening, my name is Bertoy H and I am the deportation event.

[40:00] I will see your manager for the California immigrant justice alliance.

[40:03] And I am here to urge you to stand with us in the community and stop course evicts on that operation in your city

[40:09] and the detention and criminalization of our communities.

[40:13] Course civic is operating the largest attention facility in California City without a valid business license or constitutional use permit.

[40:20] Currently, there are 65,000 people in detention in the United States and 1% of those are depending on California City.

[40:28] And I'm asking you, is this a legacy that you want for yourselves and your communities?

[40:32] We know that the city has great leadership, and that has leadership that cares.

[40:38] It's evident that the residents want to see the city thrive, has the service, and we are

[40:43] here to urge you to leverage your power.

[40:46] And enforce the California City's municipal codes and protect public safety by requiring the

[40:52] by requiring the course to be applied for the right constitutional use permit and the correct

[40:58] permit for this type of business on the local laws.

[41:01] and to suspend operations and hold Corsibia accountable.

[41:04] The city has a responsibility to leverage and the city has a responsibility and leverage

[41:10] to require Corsibia to apply for the appropriate permit.

[41:13] The city's informed Corsibia that he needs to apply for this permit in the case of

[41:18] conditional use permit, the city has discretion to deny a conditional use permit.

[41:22] Any permit this facility has in the past do not apply here.

[41:26] The prior use was for a prison. Immigration process incentives are not prisons and cannot be ground

[41:32] Father into prior contacts. When the city considers any permits or licenses, it must follow the state last, like SB 29 and C, EQA. Thank you.

[41:43] Thank you.

[41:45] Thank you.

[41:46] Okay, naturally.

[41:48] My name is Brian Zady with critical resistance.

[41:51] I'm also a student at UCLA, I'm calling to echo what was just said to urge the planning

[42:00] commission to apply the correct permit, the conditional use permit for this situation,

[42:06] and to suspend course civics operations, there are lots of reasons back in September,

[42:10] there are a hundred books who went on a sit-in to protest the deplorable conditions.

[42:15] There have been lots of testimony coming out on that, and I want to read one here to add to that.

[42:21] So this is an anonymous testimony from someone detained at which has to remain anonymous out of fear of retaliation.

[42:30] Things have been very unprofessional inside due to mishandling of some things like medication and court dates being postponed,

[42:38] where people are detained inside for three to four months.

[42:42] During my court hearing online, there was a screen that was black.

[42:47] When it was supposed to show the judge and district attorney,

[42:52] I'm concerned that I'm not even going to a real court hearing,

[42:56] because I could not see the judge and DA.

[42:59] I don't know if this was a TV issue inside California City,

[43:05] or because it was a camera that was not working in the courts.

[43:07] and I'm concerned because I've never been to a court where they did things like this.

[43:12] In regards to medication, I went to CSI-Kiatras for my medication. I later found out that

[43:17] the psychiatrist didn't put in the right order for my medications. So I did not receive my

[43:22] psychiatric medication for days. I take psychiatric medication for my bipolar and schizophrenia.

[43:28] The medical care is irregular. Sometimes I get my medication and sometimes I do not.

[43:34] It has gotten to the point where it's been a couple of weeks and I don't get my education and the past

[43:40] It's mostly been without meds for five to six days the staff at the detention center

[43:45] Abuse their authority by sending you to the whole or to the solitary cell or people have blessed privileges

[43:51] For example, I know someone who has sent to the whole because someone was coming and this person didn't want to give up his bottom bunk

[44:04] So, yeah, it's clear that the impacts on individual lives is really big at California City,

[44:11] but also the scale of this is so big that this weather, this SPR minor permit applies.

[44:17] It seems really questionable.

[44:19] This is the largest attention center in California that we're talking about,

[44:22] 2500 people are to be detained in this place.

[44:29] And,

[44:32] yeah, there's just a lot about the process that seems really unclear to me.

[44:37] As we 29, this is supposed to be the second hearing for that, but the team, the legal team that I've spoken with has said that this 180 days is supposed to be here before hearing like this before a planning commission hearing.

[44:52] So I'm urging looking into this.

[44:54] Thank you.

[44:56] Okay, next please.

[45:05] Thank you, my name. All right. Thank you, my name is Sam Hartman. I'm a resident up to Hatchipi. One of the members of the community is very concerned about what's going on in California City.

[45:20] I understand that George is trying to do a job and it's not an easy job.

[45:24] But what you're trying to allow happen, which is the opening of the Detention Center is wrong,

[45:37] Horse Civic is a criminal organization.

[45:41] They are operating illegally.

[45:44] They are the Tainees that they get are often apprehended illegally.

[45:51] They're not given their rights.

[45:55] The proof of this is last week, they had a hearing in Congress where the head of the

[46:01] DHS, ICE, was asked about veterans that had been picked up.

[46:08] And those veterans, one of them having a purple heart, was deported to North or South Korea.

[46:15] Now, that person had a legal contract to be able to stay in this country, at a green card.

[46:23] He was legal resident. He had done anything wrong. He just had the wrong color skin.

[46:31] If you allow, of course, civic detention center to open your rubber stamping, that abuse of our rights.

[46:42] America needs to stand up and stop this.

[46:46] It's up to individuals at true level and your staff's level and the city council

[46:52] levels to say, no, we're not going to do this.

[46:55] We're going to follow the law.

[46:58] Of course, civic wants to open a detention center.

[47:01] Let them empty this out, pass all their permits and pass all their inspections.

[47:07] And then they can start talking about bringing people in and the people that come in, let them have their legal rights.

[47:18] You know, I want to say real quick that coming into this country illegally is equivalent to a parking ticket.

[47:27] It's not that serious of an issue, and yet over 25 people have died in this country in detention centers.

[47:37] It seems pretty harsh for a country to issue death sentences for a parking ticket, and if you want

[47:45] to be a part of that, go ahead and improve the permit.

[47:50] I don't want to be a part of it, and I will stand up and say, no, and I will continue

[47:55] to resist.

[47:57] I will continue to speak out, because this is wrong, and you've got to find a way to stop it.

[48:02] you've got to find a way to make it legal to stop it. I don't know all the ins and

[48:07] outs of the law, but I know this is wrong and I know right is right and wrong is wrong

[48:11] and this is wrong. Okay, thank you. Next to go back to Zoom, we'll do three more up there and then

[48:19] come back in chamber. Okay, next up we have Liz and the sentient. Please unmute and you're three minutes

[48:28] start. Thank you. Good evening, Planning Commission. My name is Liz Collins again, I'm with

[48:35] Billy Healthy Community's Kern. And tonight I'd like to share a test of the money from someone

[48:39] currently, the Tain and California City.

[48:44] Yeah. This human being was just a really anonymous

[48:48] and this person has shared the following. I have been in intention for for two almost three months.

[48:54] The plumbing is not working, sinks in toilets are not working properly, the whole time I have been at the facility.

[49:01] Every other day, they have to come to clear the plumbing from stopping, from stopping up so it's backed up for two days.

[49:08] The water here is really bad, the water tastes and smells and intense odor.

[49:13] They lock you down for any reason over here.

[49:16] Some people have a hard time getting medical attention or medications.

[49:20] For me, I haven't had any problems but I see people having a hard time.

[49:25] being charged for your mail and calls difficulties and we'll give you your tracking number.

[49:30] The treat is not really human. There's a lot more stuff going on in here.

[49:36] That's really what I wanted to share with you today. This is somebody currently detained somebody who's really

[49:41] struggling someone who, again, wants to remain anonymous.

[49:45] And I just thank you for giving me the time to share that with you tonight.

[49:49] Okay, thank you.

[49:50] The next one, there's no name but he has or she has put video up and I can't see a name up there.

[50:03] What was it again?

[50:06] Nick's is good. Okay, very good. Hi. Yeah, Nick's Wilson here. Sorry.

[50:15] I'm second. Hi. Hi, my name is Nick's Wilson. I've lived in Ridgecrest for 10 years and I work in

[50:20] Mahave as an archeologist. I love my community and I want it to be a better place for everyone, especially the working

[50:25] class that keeps everything afloat. I love learning history and I enjoy learning about things that

[50:34] It was never in my curriculum.

[50:36] Most people here should know about man's and are.

[50:39] That's two hours from California City

[50:40] with a standing reminder of concentration,

[50:42] cance existing in California.

[50:44] When over 120,000 Japanese Americans

[50:47] were wrongly imprisoned by our government,

[50:49] this is not very different from what is being proposed right now.

[50:52] Even though what happened even though what happened

[50:54] at man's and are as soon as a blemish in our country's history,

[50:57] unfortunately our country has a history of treating people this way.

[51:00] We are on stolen land,

[51:01] be longing to the Kauai Su and to hone people, these indigenous people were forced into reservations

[51:06] with any remaining conditions.

[51:08] Today, I learned that the hone had their own trail of tears here on this land.

[51:15] Finally, I'm working class here in Ridge Press.

[51:18] I don't want the world to live in fear.

[51:20] I don't want people to be separated from their family to be enslaved in concentration camps.

[51:25] We as working class people, Mexican, white, immigrants, settler, and native.

[51:30] We have so much more in common than the CEO of course, civic division,

[51:34] Damon, can endure, and the resonates, the wonderful company.

[51:38] I want everyone to have food, housing, education, healthcare, et cetera.

[51:42] Why would I want members of my community to be tortured and start?

[51:45] Because it's profitable for course, civic.

[51:47] On top of that, people who are interested, you know, want to lose our water rights

[51:51] for this ice-present.

[51:52] When analyzed, it becomes clear that Nansinar and Native American genocide and ice are not

[51:57] and American history, they paint an ugly image of the true nature of policing, colonialism,

[52:02] and white supremacy. These institutions oppress us. They hurt the working class.

[52:06] They tear families apart for corporate profit. I'm white, and I was born and raised in the US,

[52:10] but I will not be free as long as other humans are enslaved. We are one human population.

[52:16] I also did not know that the prison had already opened illegally. There's the pure irony of this prison here

[52:23] to arrest people who are quote unquote illegal

[52:25] when this entire prison isn't even legal,

[52:29] it's very upsetting.

[52:30] Anyone in favor of this new slave city concentration camp,

[52:33] which is what will happen,

[52:34] and you can clearly hear these are inhumane conditions,

[52:37] and that's what happens in prisons,

[52:39] in concentration camps.

[52:40] Anyone who's with this should be ashamed of themselves.

[52:44] Please tap the day you deserve a abolishized landback

[52:47] for you Palestine.

[52:48] Thank you.

[52:50] Thank you. Next one is Pat Foley.

[52:58] Yeah, it's good evening. Firstly, let's not ignore Colton Dillard's use of a racial slur at the beginning of this meeting before he was voted for the Zoom.

[53:08] Thank you for avoiding him so quickly, so he couldn't continue.

[53:14] I am with the mutual aid immigration network and we have taken calls from dozens of people being held at the course of

[53:22] California City. Maybe you don't believe that the conditions being reported to you or

[53:28] as bad as we say. Maybe you don't care if people that are being called criminals are treated badly.

[53:35] But the Kato Institute has reported their data has tracked the arrests between January and the end of July

[53:42] and ISIS conducted over 16,000 street arrest of immigrants who had no criminal convictions,

[53:48] no charges, no removal orders.

[53:51] Their data tracks the arrest that do not include anyone

[53:54] who is getting custody of any criminal justice agency.

[53:59] Tom Homeman is quoted as saying ICE and Border Patrol

[54:02] are detaining people, quote, based on the location,

[54:06] their occupation, their physical appearance,

[54:09] their actions like if the person walks away on quote.

[54:13] ICE agents don't know the names of people

[54:15] they're approaching on the street.

[54:16] They are not targeting known criminals, they are racially profiling and targeting people

[54:21] biggest on the color of their skin or what language they are speaking.

[54:26] These arrest of immigrants or US citizens at work or on the street are the result of a

[54:32] cruel quota system put in place by the federal government.

[54:36] So the people being detained are not criminals, they are hardworking family members that are

[54:40] being treated as criminals, except they are not given their due process rights.

[54:45] we are all entitled to. The City Attorney and the City Council members take an oath to uphold

[54:51] the US Constitution. I don't know if you take the same oath, but I would hope that all of us

[54:57] as Americans would care about basic constitutional rights being upheld. Anything less is complicity.

[55:06] All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. I am pleading with you

[55:11] to join us in resisting the immoral detention facility.

[55:16] You can throw up your hands and say, not my job.

[55:19] You can throw up your hands and say,

[55:20] there's nothing I can do as an individual,

[55:23] but that is not true.

[55:24] You can stand with us.

[55:25] You can find ways to resist this happening in your community.

[55:29] You can go public with your opinions,

[55:32] but you can't pretend it isn't happening

[55:34] and doesn't affect you.

[55:36] We ask the two to join us and require a core civic

[55:39] to apply for a CUP and to suspend their operation.

[55:43] Thank you.

[55:45] Thank you.

[55:47] We'll return to the chamber for folks that would like to speak here.

[55:52] Next, please.

[55:55] My name is Nisha and I am with the Dolores Weather Foundation.

[55:59] I want to read a testimony from someone who is currently being held in California City

[56:04] in the ice detention facility.

[56:06] And you said, while I was that golden annex, I developed a large access, the size of a tennis ball on one of my glutes.

[56:15] I asked for medical help and was given a patch to cover the absets.

[56:19] Before, during and after transport from GSA to California City, the Teaching Facility,

[56:26] on September 4, 2025, I was forced to sit for 10 hours, mostly waiting around to be processed.

[56:32] And it was during that time that the absets burst and it was bleeding and I was bleeding everywhere

[56:38] I developed three more absets almost immediately. One on my left blue

[56:43] On my inner thigh and on my right leg the infection made me have chills fever sweating and immense pain

[56:51] I've asked for help multiple times during the intake, but was asked for only for my personal information

[56:58] When I when I finally saw the nurse

[57:01] I showed her the blood and the infected area and the nurse told me that they didn't have the supplies to clean my infected skin and I would and I would have to wait at least two days to see a doctor six weeks

[57:16] and I didn't see a doctor. Finally I saw nurse during that process the guards began to

[57:24] do the tiny way, the tiny count and I had the nurse to take my vitals. It was the only

[57:33] thing that she could do at the time. It wasn't until two months after I arrived at California

[57:38] city that I finally was given an antibody. But the wound was actually never checked out or treated.

[57:44] The antibiotics did help fight the infection.

[57:48] I continue to develop abscess throughout my body,

[57:52] including on my knees, inside my nose,

[57:55] and they bleed and are very painful.

[57:57] Since the Ravana California City,

[57:59] I have asked multiple guards for medical assistance

[58:01] about 10 to 12 times.

[58:04] I have eight documented instances where I've asked

[58:07] for medical aid and was denied.

[58:09] They eventually took blood work, took an X-ray,

[58:12] And the chest X-ray because they thought that I may have tuberculosis.

[58:16] When I acquired a biomarker, I was told that if the doctor didn't ask to see me, that I was fine.

[58:21] I still never got my results.

[58:24] I have developed severe itch and through all my body, and I have to use the Comps to scratch my leg.

[58:29] It's very painful, and I feel like the itch and it's similar to when you get chickenpox, but I don't have chickenpox.

[58:35] This has taken a psychological toll on me.

[58:39] It feels important to mention that at the times when me and other detainees ask for medical care,

[58:49] they are taken to the medical area, but forced to sit in way. Sometimes for hours,

[58:54] only to be told that the doctor won't be able to beat him.

[58:57] Okay, thank you. Next, please.

[59:04] My name is Marcelo Diggie. Anyone who wears a sheep skin and calls himself a Christian,

[59:09] A support to keep this concentration camp open and active would be the same to turn a blind eye if Jesus himself were to be here today

[59:17] You would not bat an eye if he died in a nice custody

[59:20] You are the evil among us all immigrant communities are living in fear and all Americans see to stand up for it

[59:28] To be a fair and do process being undocumented is not a criminal offense, but a civil one

[59:35] This so-called detention center has the beginning of concentration camp atrocities to come

[59:39] There have already been two deaths that have been reported and many more to come if we don't take action now and close this place down.

[59:46] The people that are being kidnapped off the streets are being held in squalor and inhumane conditions where reports of being a women being raped and people not getting medical attention were needed.

[59:57] Ice thugs are criminals.

[1:00:00] By masks, with a false sense of authority, with no concern for human treatment, and they are emotionally, mentally, and physically torturing

[1:00:07] our neighbors, our friends, and our families. As far as legalities go, instead, I want to

[1:00:14] address demand that course civic apply for a permit to conduct torture chambers paid by the

[1:00:19] American tax dollars. Close this concentration camp down now, or those who support it, we'll have to answer

[1:00:25] for their crimes when just nightmare is over.

[1:00:27] Thank you.

[1:00:28] Thank you.

[1:00:29] Okay, next, please.

[1:00:34] Hi, my name's Katie Liferon.

[1:00:44] It seems like all this is their ammonium to me.

[1:00:48] Corsid Vick's already open.

[1:00:50] They've opened this place.

[1:00:52] It's inside of prisons, they're operating.

[1:00:54] You guys are holding these meetings now

[1:00:56] after the fact that they're operating illegally

[1:00:59] without a permit without business license.

[1:01:00] They have people inside.

[1:01:04] We can keep telling you how bad it is.

[1:01:07] And you'll sit there, of motionless, I've watched it.

[1:01:10] I've been everywhere from LA to California City.

[1:01:14] All year begging people, sitting on a diet, people in power, begging you to do the right thing, begging you to have a heart to speak to the humanity inside of you.

[1:01:26] And you can sit there and be like, I'm powerless to have no power, it's not my job.

[1:01:30] And I don't know whose job it is, because I turn on the TV and apparently it's not Congress's job.

[1:01:36] I turn on the TV it's just it's nobody's job but you guys are sitting there and you can do something just even if it's fucking symbolic just don't issue the permit they're already there

[1:01:45] They're already they're gonna operate legally. They're not leaving. We know that. It's just don't issue the permit whoever's job it is

[1:01:51] I don't know who is it it because no one will tell us just don't issue the permit all right

[1:01:56] Just symbolically don't do that because by following through

[1:02:01] You say it's fine

[1:02:04] Everybody who just allows this, you know what's happening in there, and you know what the plan is you do.

[1:02:10] And so that tells me one of two things. Either you just don't care.

[1:02:15] What's happening to people in there? Or you're fine with it.

[1:02:19] Because those are the only two options if you don't do anything.

[1:02:23] You do have power. You have some sort of power that this town is given you.

[1:02:27] Okay? If you wanted, this entire town, the police, you could go to that prison, surround it with your police force, everybody, and say, not in our town, you could kick them out, but nobody has done that.

[1:02:41] I have seen no pushback, nobody has released the public records, we know that that is not up to code.

[1:02:46] We don't need the testimonies that everybody has given over the last month. We know how bad it is.

[1:02:51] actually we don't because what we're hearing I guarantee you I promise you it is so much worse

[1:02:57] it is so much worse. I have talked to people who have been in there. I've spoken to lawyers who have

[1:03:03] clients in there. You have no idea what these people are going through and you are complicit because

[1:03:08] you are in this position whether you like it or not it might not be fair but you are in this position

[1:03:12] and you do have power and to do nothing is to allow it and one day people are going to look back

[1:03:17] because whether we like it or not,

[1:03:19] this is a moment in American history.

[1:03:21] And this is how we're going to be remembered,

[1:03:23] the same way Auschwitz, DACA, all of them.

[1:03:26] People are going to look back at what is happening in America

[1:03:28] right now, and they might not remember your names,

[1:03:31] but they will remember who will allow it.

[1:03:33] They will remember the towns, they will remember

[1:03:35] the names of the cities, whatever we end up calling it,

[1:03:38] and you will be responsible.

[1:03:40] Thank you.

[1:03:41] We're going to go back to Zoom.

[1:03:45] Mr. Nick's Wilson, could you lower your hand

[1:03:47] Please, we'll clean up our board to help us keep track better

[1:03:50] on to some, thank you so much.

[1:03:52] Next is Olivia.

[1:03:55] On to Zoom.

[1:03:58] Good evening.

[1:03:59] My name is Olivia with California and is United for Responsible

[1:04:02] budget, for a coalition of over a hundred organizations

[1:04:06] working to reduce the harms of incarceration

[1:04:09] and invest in community-based services.

[1:04:13] As local leaders, you have the power to undo

[1:04:16] the several misconceptions we've even heard tonight around the city,

[1:04:20] supposing lack of ability to do something to stop harm in your immediate community.

[1:04:25] You have the power to enforce local laws by requiring that course civic apply for a conditional

[1:04:30] use permit and suspend operations and hold course civic accountable. Additionally, we have heard

[1:04:37] throughout the several her perfect testimony shared here tonight that even in course

[1:04:43] of a short time being open and given these testimony, there seems to be a lot of issues with the infrastructure of the building and I'm wondering if that's also something that has a planning commission that you could look into.

[1:04:57] This seems like an infrastructure seems like an urgent issue with the facility worth looking into as well.

[1:05:05] And also as others have said, despite SB 29, the lack of conditional use permit and the application process the city planner named earlier, not being completed.

[1:05:15] I'm confused as to why Corsidvic is even open it in the first place.

[1:05:20] It's opening just over the past few months has already caused harm and abuse to so many detained people inside, which I guess is unsurprising given detention centers and Corsidvic's track record of abuse and neglect and deaths,

[1:05:33] which we will probably shared for months now.

[1:05:39] And even in the facilities where you're time being open,

[1:05:41] detained people, attorneys and advocates continue

[1:05:43] to report deplorable conditions,

[1:05:45] which is led to more than a hundred

[1:05:47] of detained people, staging, sitting and refusing meal

[1:05:50] and September.

[1:05:52] These strikers were responded to with the tally

[1:05:55] further retaliation and more punitive punishment.

[1:06:00] So with that, please leverage your power

[1:06:02] and enforce California City's municipal codes.

[1:06:06] This really is in the best interest of public safety and it's in your power to do this.

[1:06:11] Thanks for your time.

[1:06:12] Thank you. Next is a person with a tan shirt on. I can't read the name

[1:06:19] and you have your video up so I can see you.

[1:06:24] That looks like you're leaning forward. Okay, please go ahead.

[1:06:28] Good evening, planning commission, my brother-in-law is detained at California City Detention Center.

[1:06:37] I'm a San Francisco resident, and I'm here to oppose the use of this facility as a detention center by Khor Civic.

[1:06:45] About a month ago, my sister and her husband went to their routine green card interview in San Francisco.

[1:06:51] The initial part of their application had been approved by USCIS.

[1:06:56] I used to tame my brother in law during this interview and he remains inside California City today.

[1:07:03] It's impossible to put into words the nightmare this has been for our family.

[1:07:07] It took over 24 hours just to find out where he was.

[1:07:11] And when we learned it was California City, we were devastated.

[1:07:14] We found articles and lawsuits calling this place hell on Earth.

[1:07:19] My brother-in-law is navigating an immigration civil offense, not a criminal offense.

[1:07:26] Housing him and a former prison is wrong and inhumane.

[1:07:30] My sister is not able to drive because she's disabled and there's no public transportation

[1:07:35] to this facility and she cannot easily visit her husband.

[1:07:40] My nephew is six months old and his first Thanksgiving was spent traveling seven hours

[1:07:46] through the Mahave Desert to play Peacaboo with his father behind Plexiglas.

[1:07:51] This is my nephew's life story now and my brother-in-law is missing his son's most precious

[1:07:57] bonding and developmental milestones. Not to mention the scars this will leave and the recovery will

[1:08:04] take when he's home. Children should never be separated from their parents and there are countless

[1:08:10] studies on early childhood trauma and its life long impacts.

[1:08:15] This is intergenerational trauma being created right now.

[1:08:21] As much of a nightmare as this has been for my family.

[1:08:25] For us, this is just a small window into the horror for families who face language barriers

[1:08:30] who are detained for many months or years.

[1:08:34] For families without lawyers or resources to navigate these complex systems.

[1:08:40] the terror and the unknown. Your father, your brother, your mother, your sister, your daughter

[1:08:47] kept in a place known to be hell on earth. Is this what you want your city to be known for?

[1:08:54] This facility should never be used to house human beings. Thank you.

[1:09:00] Okay, thank you. Next one is fellow, you are of your video on, you have a white shirt on

[1:09:07] And I think it is better, maybe a J in the title of there. It's hard to see it with our lighting in here.

[1:09:16] You're leaning forward, so yeah, please go.

[1:09:25] You must not be there.

[1:09:26] There you go.

[1:09:28] Thank you. My name is Jonathan Montes Diaz.

[1:09:33] And I've experienced firsthand the harsh values of immigration detention, spending two and a half years in detention,

[1:09:41] including three-and-a-half in California City, somebody actually spoke, they made a comment.

[1:09:50] The earlier testimonies, I was the one that was taken to administrative segregation for

[1:09:59] not moving from books, and I would talk about the reason why later, my experience has given me

[1:10:10] unique perspective on the needs for reform and the importance of prioritizing human dignity.

[1:10:18] I'm here today to show, you know, to show my story and advocate for change in California City.

[1:10:25] Since the opening, you know, that they did without proper permits, you know, that they weren't even ready.

[1:10:31] They were understaffed and these led to a lot of the issues that are going on.

[1:10:39] You know, I experienced significant delay to be attentive, and then when being attended in that regard healthcare.

[1:10:54] I was dealing with a hand injury that happened at a period of facility, and despite trying to get medical attention, I faced delays and misunderstandings and even fell ignored by staff.

[1:11:06] I tried to advocate for myself and others and found the complaint, but it didn't make any changes.

[1:11:16] A lot of this is a bureaucratic issue, but we won't get into that.

[1:11:22] The next issues that we were experiencing was the treatment that we suffered from staff.

[1:11:30] And that goes from officers, free staff, nurses, doctors, and administration.

[1:11:39] I have personally been involved and have documented situations where all of the both have been disrespectful and confrontational.

[1:11:49] When you try to speak up with it,

[1:11:55] you try to speak up about the complaints get twisted and just to get twisted to justify their actions.

[1:12:03] It's like the system is more focused on protecting itself than our treating people with dignity and respect.

[1:12:10] The next is retaliation that have experienced retaliation after speaking out and is particularly

[1:12:17] frustrating when there are people in those higher positions that user training and experience

[1:12:25] to find ways to plan it for people for exercising the right to report concerns, they are

[1:12:31] trying to cite it and intimidate us.

[1:12:33] Okay.

[1:12:34] My request is to top permits.

[1:12:36] Thank you.

[1:12:37] Okay.

[1:12:37] Thank you.

[1:12:38] Okay.

[1:12:38] We'll go back in Chamber.

[1:12:40] That's three people on Zoom and first person, please.

[1:12:44] Hey.

[1:12:45] I'm Gabe.

[1:12:47] I don't know the last time you had people sobbing in a planning commission meeting.

[1:12:52] I think, you know, people have said that you guys have power.

[1:12:56] I don't agree.

[1:12:57] I think you're in way over your heads.

[1:12:59] I don't think you anticipated this happening in this little city.

[1:13:04] I think that it's probably true when a lot of you say that there's not really anything you can do.

[1:13:13] And I think that one of the biggest virtues that someone could have is vulnerability and admitting when you don't know what to do

[1:13:23] or when you don't know what's wrong and I've never seen more organizations in but not just people here and people on Zoom

[1:13:32] for a planning commission meeting in a city of almost 13,000 people, but there's organizations

[1:13:39] too that are here, that are represented, a lot of people that came up and spoke are from

[1:13:44] organizations. And so while you might not have power, there seems to be a community here that

[1:13:51] wants to help, that wants you, if you think, I don't know what to do. I did not anticipate a concentration

[1:13:58] can't be my town. I just kind of signed up for the Planning Commission. I didn't. I thought I would be

[1:14:03] maybe like saying, hey, this Domino's could be here. I don't know. But there's a group. There's

[1:14:08] all these people that want to help and that if you have questions or if you want more information

[1:14:14] or if you're wondering, hey, I had this idea of maybe we could stop it this way. What do you guys think?

[1:14:21] If no one's mad at you, like everyone's here, and I think that it's a resource, that instead

[1:14:27] of being adversaries, there's an openness, at least on my end, probably on everyone's end,

[1:14:34] to figure out some way to do something where it's not just, because I understand it's

[1:14:40] a lot coming at you, and that it seems adversarial, and I just want to say, you know, I don't

[1:14:51] say that that's what's happening or just tacitly sort of be like, what do you guys think? Okay, thanks.

[1:14:58] Okay, thank you.

[1:15:00] Okay, next please.

[1:15:04] Hello, my name is Alex Andrew Barron, and while we may not bed the pleasure of meeting before now, mark my word, you will see me at every one of your meetings until we reach a resolution in this matter. You can ask city council that when I give my word, I stand by it. Though I live in Los Angeles, I will continue, doggyly, to keep coming up here, making the two-hour drive, spending money and time away from my children as a single mother, because I believe that my neighbors and friends would do so.

[1:15:32] the same for me. Now I drove out to the detention center. It's less than 7 miles from where

[1:15:39] I'm standing right now. And regardless of where we are politically ideologically, we are

[1:15:47] all humans. We came from another. We came from a father and we belong to our community members.

[1:15:55] So what I'm going to ask you to do is a very basic thing. I'm going to want you to do what

[1:16:01] would tell your kids to do and what your mothers and fathers raised you to do, which is if you

[1:16:06] don't have a solution as somebody else, if you can't fix the problem, step aside and let other

[1:16:12] people do so, do not die on this hill of pride. This is a very, very sacred ticket that you have been

[1:16:20] given this moment, this time is going to define your legacy. Your names will be Wikipedia. And what

[1:16:28] You do hear, will be what you're known for, more than to your friends and families, more

[1:16:33] than to your grandkids because the internet lives forever.

[1:16:36] And I'm going to protect you with love, from you messing around with the legacy that thousands

[1:16:43] of literal people have died for you to have this chance to build.

[1:16:47] You will not go down in history.

[1:16:50] As messing around, you will go down as the people who said, no, it may cost me my political

[1:16:57] career, but no, because if not, this will become the man's in our, no, we maintain our

[1:17:03] contact, this will be the man's in our of your generation. I know, I know, especially that you

[1:17:10] were not raised to weaken at the thought of a fight for justice or dignity. I know that because

[1:17:19] see you here as a representative of us. All of us, we are on the same team. The people in the

[1:17:30] detention center are on our team, even the people holding them prisoner. Because at the end of the

[1:17:36] day, it is going to be you, somebody you love. Hey, Rosent! We can do no icons but I can get much louder.

[1:17:44] Thank you, sir. So we are going to find a solution.

[1:17:49] We're going to find one together.

[1:17:51] We're going to find one together or you will undoubtedly choose

[1:17:55] to regret ignoring me right now.

[1:17:57] Thank you and thank you. I did not clap at you.

[1:17:59] You, though. That's disrespectful.

[1:18:02] You know I come here because I believe in what we're doing.

[1:18:05] Moment of silence for lives lost due to Corsibic.

[1:18:07] Thank you.

[1:18:11] uh... anybody else in chamber

[1:18:14] before we go back to zoom

[1:18:16] nobody's coming up okay

[1:18:18] all right uh... back up on zoom i have a gentleman

[1:18:23] with glasses

[1:18:24] there was a lady walkin behind a merlier i'd apologize i can't see your name

[1:18:28] trust trying to describe

[1:18:35] you can unmute sir

[1:18:41] thank you uh... thank you

[1:18:43] my name is bob kun's eye of

[1:18:46] visited detainees and current county

[1:18:48] for approximately 10 years, the difference between McFarlane and Baker's field and Cal City is

[1:18:55] the difference between night and day. They're in incredible stories of problems that we've been

[1:19:04] documented throughout the United States and this intention center. Previously, one of the family members

[1:19:14] head upon one very important thing. If you go and visit in Cal City, which is very difficult

[1:19:20] to do compared to the other ones, there's only 18 little screens with, you know, plexiglass

[1:19:26] between it, it's very hard to communicate through it. People do not have a chance to touch or

[1:19:32] or hug or a baby to, you know, a person to be with them. They are being held as prisoners at

[1:19:41] level three prison. This is a detention center. There's supposed to have a chance to get an opportunity to look into the possibility of becoming a legal citizen here.

[1:19:55] the international actually as said that the Cal City situation by course city is actually classified

[1:20:03] as torture in a way of physical, lack of medical situation and mental. The whole situation

[1:20:11] is unheard of for punishment for just normal type of things. I could go on and tell you

[1:20:21] even worse things than you heard. There's already two people that had died and a couple of suicides at

[1:20:26] temps already. The previous speaker, a couple of them, mentioned something. Cal City could make a difference.

[1:20:35] This particular detention center should not even be in operating right now. These people are being tortured

[1:20:43] without due process. They have not done to permits. They have not done anything. The structure

[1:20:50] is not been looked into. Plus all the terrible things we're going on. As a planning commission,

[1:20:57] you should stop right now. If this was another business, a hospital working on or whoever

[1:21:03] didn't even have permission and you had any of any one of these violations, it would be put

[1:21:09] down. So stop the situation right now. If not the proper permits, make sure that they've done

[1:21:18] that and go from that. Cal State could be the first step in this nation and making a difference

[1:21:25] in this deterioration of ghoul odds that are taking place for our fellow people in the world.

[1:21:33] So, you know, everyone on this line and everywhere is here to support you. And you actually

[1:21:39] do have a place. That that is a step right now that can make a difference. Your city is allowing

[1:21:46] not to happen. And it should not even be there right now. Okay, thank you sir.

[1:21:50] Thank you. Okay, next is Michael Anne.

[1:21:59] Good evening, commissioners. My name is Michael

[1:22:01] Michimura. I'm with Critical Resistance LA and I'm someone who wants to see you all fight for our neighbors,

[1:22:07] our family members and community members. So we know that no decisions can be made in this meeting

[1:22:13] tonight, but there are many questions that we've like answered.

[1:22:17] For example, I was quite civic allowed to operate

[1:22:19] without proper permits at an incomplete application with the city.

[1:22:23] I was quite civic allowed to circumvent state law as P-29.

[1:22:27] Why is this allowed to happen under the watch of California City

[1:22:29] elected officials and what can be done about this on a state level?

[1:22:33] Can you, as the planning commission, do something about the horrendous infrastructure

[1:22:36] and help hazards happening in the facility and shut it down that way?

[1:22:40] I know that Mayor Hawkins is in this meeting, and I appreciate him for being here, and I hope he and other members of the city council can help us answer these questions.

[1:22:50] Right now, California City is infamous in California and across the US for this detention center.

[1:22:55] And I'm sure that this is not the legacy and reputation that you want for the city.

[1:22:59] So instead of that, you can also be the city that bought back and shut down a nice facility.

[1:23:03] We urge you to be doing everything you possibly can to intervene or at the very least informed

[1:23:09] the public about what kinds of remedies that you are pursuing.

[1:23:12] As a previous speaker mentioned, conditions in the facility are so bad.

[1:23:18] So many people who are detained there, there are so bad in fact that many people who are detained

[1:23:23] there are suing ice.

[1:23:24] It is called Hell on Earth in a Torture Chamber, the facility is polluted by sewage leaks,

[1:23:30] and festive bugs, people are denied access to food,

[1:23:33] water, medical care, medication, and legal counsel.

[1:23:36] People have been on hunger strike to protest conditions.

[1:23:40] This abuse and deadly violence is all very well documented

[1:23:42] as people were mentioning.

[1:23:44] We should not be normalizing this violence,

[1:23:46] and I know that you do not want to do that either.

[1:23:49] And I know that as leaders in California City,

[1:23:51] you do not want this staining the name of the city.

[1:23:54] As one of the speakers mentioned, you have many, many folks here

[1:23:57] who are willing to fight against the facility with you.

[1:23:59] So, please help elaborate how we can all push back, how we can end the illegal activity being conducted by ICE and to keep California City in accordance with state law.

[1:24:09] Commissioners, you started this meeting with the intention to serve the people.

[1:24:12] This is your responsibility.

[1:24:14] In order to serve all people, especially our vulnerable community members who are living in terror,

[1:24:19] we all need to do everything on our power to end this violence and pursue what is just. Thank you.

[1:24:25] Thank you. Next gentleman, you have enabled your video, you have glasses and a dark jacket on, I think.

[1:24:35] If you could just wave or, I'd note to you, yeah, that's you. Okay, please unmute and go ahead and say what you need to say, sir.

[1:24:48] Can you hear me? My name's Gabriel. Yes, we can hear you

[1:24:53] Okay, my name is Gabriel Cardona. Okay, I was a detainee at I count city

[1:25:01] As I said here that I heard everybody's testimony now's been hearing everybody testimony

[1:25:05] I want to just point out that a lot of things that it would there be a set of truth. I lived on myself

[1:25:11] And I just want to first of all. Thank you for for

[1:25:14] Daddy me speaking if testimony

[1:25:16] now

[1:25:16] as a kind of God, a person who is giving himself to service to serve the Lord in our kinds of ways.

[1:25:24] I don't know, I sit here and I don't sit here and I read, it's right in front of you, right at your death.

[1:25:30] It says, in God we trust.

[1:25:33] Well, which God will you trust you?

[1:25:36] Are you going to be like the Pharaoh and we're going to be like Moses?

[1:25:41] Do you want, do you want to harm your hearts?

[1:25:45] Or do you want to, or do you want to fulfill what that wants you to do?

[1:25:50] I want you to bring these people out of there.

[1:25:53] God wants you to bring these people out of there.

[1:25:55] Now, I'm going to give you a little bit of my testimony.

[1:25:58] A very thing I really want to say in the ensue name of everything that's happening inside the detention center is very true.

[1:26:05] Talking about floods inside the detention center.

[1:26:07] I was there also when it was prison.

[1:26:09] When it was California City prison, I was there.

[1:26:11] It closed because of the fact that it was it was not in in the conditions to maintain

[1:26:17] When it rains outside can it rains inside and rains inside inside the the facility. It rains inside

[1:26:25] Your the cells are flooding and it's true the the medical

[1:26:32] The staffing there's no good and it's not bringing any

[1:26:35] Don't help anyone. All it does is just ripping it in more illnesses to people. They're not doing anything in their power.

[1:26:44] Not anything to help. When I was first a writer off on my label, it was very clear to me. It was very clear to me said by one of the staff there.

[1:26:55] That said, hey, you guys are not going to be here long anyways.

[1:26:57] We were here just to sign and get the party.

[1:27:04] Why did you said that?

[1:27:05] Because they're trying to make it unhumane for them.

[1:27:08] Unhumane for us to fight.

[1:27:10] To fight for our rights.

[1:27:11] To fight for rights to stay here.

[1:27:13] I've been living here in the United States.

[1:27:16] Right now I'm deported on the Mexico.

[1:27:19] Now I've been living in the States 51 years.

[1:27:23] I'm 51 year old.

[1:27:24] My mom took me to the States.

[1:27:25] and I was two months, two months of being born,

[1:27:30] and I've been living here in my whole life, okay?

[1:27:33] Now, here's my testimony on what I'm saying,

[1:27:36] on everything.

[1:27:38] We're fairly sad to me now, okay,

[1:27:40] that we're only dealing a bit of time there.

[1:27:42] My goal was to, there are goal was to make us,

[1:27:46] we're also to get tired of it

[1:27:47] and for us to run out of deportation.

[1:27:49] I have suffered a spiritual disconnection,

[1:27:52] not allowing us to attend a Christian service.

[1:27:54] me being a server of the Lord bringing messages to the people to uplift them and in their struggles as well as mine

[1:28:03] or find this is a horrifying detention center at Calcini broke a lot of it broke a lot of people as well as myself

[1:28:12] okay, so spiritually broken in sir your time is up, but thank you

[1:28:17] Okay, thank you. I thought you want to say thank you. Thank you. Okay

[1:28:21] We did have somebody in chamber that wanted to speak, so we'll come back in chamber and then go back to Zoom.

[1:28:29] Hi, my name is Eric.

[1:28:32] It's a cliche that I want to start by quoting head errands with anality of evil.

[1:28:36] She wrote, the sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.

[1:28:42] I don't think you all made up your minds to be evil.

[1:28:45] You keep saying you're not making decisions tonight, so you're fine.

[1:28:48] But you have a choice before you, whether to do something good or evil.

[1:28:52] And that may sound extreme, but it is true.

[1:28:56] So let's talk banality a little bit.

[1:28:59] I'm a photographer.

[1:29:00] I visual metaphor is kind of my thing.

[1:29:03] The future of this concentration camp is being decided in this room,

[1:29:07] but 15 people stains on the drop ceiling.

[1:29:10] There's a dusty fake plant in the corner.

[1:29:12] The table of the entrance has a torn sparkly American flag,

[1:29:16] table cloth.

[1:29:17] You keep getting messages on your zoom meeting about the time running out.

[1:29:24] It's happening in this very room in this very moment and I don't believe that much evil was not a conscious choice, but you all can make a conscious choice, please do.

[1:29:35] Good. Thank you.

[1:29:37] Nobody else in Chamber is coming up, so we will go back to Zoom.

[1:29:43] The next person is Irene A.

[1:30:00] Contour, respect, o medirejo status, believe me, with all due respect, aye, and come here to share with you.

[1:30:37] extremely difficult for me and all of my family and all of my family.

[1:30:45] I've heard of my son, I've heard of the opportunity to share moments

[1:30:50] that you have with him.

[1:30:53] I've lost my son and the opportunities of special moments with him.

[1:30:59] I've heard of the years of conversations.

[1:31:02] Last day is a dialogue with him,

[1:31:05] the apoyo y de su presencia,

[1:31:08] of support and of his presence.

[1:31:11] As a 4 meses,

[1:31:13] mi hijo fue transferido a California city.

[1:31:18] 4 months ago, my son was transferred to California city.

[1:31:21] Y de sentonces no he podido estar en calma,

[1:31:25] me angustia profundamente,

[1:31:27] Since then, I have not been able to rest. I've been in English constantly.

[1:31:33] Pensadis is escuchar sobre la negligencia que está ocurriendo en ese centro.

[1:31:46] Como madre vivo con constante de preocupación?

[1:31:51] As a mom I'm living with constant concern.

[1:32:09] And I fear for his safety and all the human beings are saying in there.

[1:32:34] Okay, thank you so much. Next one is Adriana's iPhone.

[1:32:51] Yes. Good morning. Your commissioner members. My name is Adriana Hasso. I am calling from the city of San Diego.

[1:33:03] With a very simple reflection and suggestion and asked,

[1:33:08] Corset that has been operating in the Otai Mass Detention Center at the East of

[1:33:14] Oork County, here in San Diego, with one of the biggest capacities to hold people

[1:33:20] due to their immigration situation, their cases in Oork County.

[1:33:29] The Corset that became more of a formal facility in the sense of formality for the

[1:33:37] profit making billions of dollars a year at the expense of the pain and the harm that they

[1:33:44] exercise against hundreds and thousands of people. It would be great if you commissioners

[1:33:50] will take the time to read time after time. Many different offices that have reduced reports of the

[1:34:00] uses in terms of lack of medical attention, extended hours, months, and weeks of isolation.

[1:34:11] Every level of labor abuse that you can imagine, it would be great if you would take

[1:34:20] the time to understand and to know that course civic is a corporation, a private

[1:34:25] for proper corporation that is after the money, and that is sadly taken advantage of cities

[1:34:35] isolated that are selling a product, and this case for civic selling a product to isolated

[1:34:42] communities. California City can do better, should do better, must do better, and you as

[1:34:50] missioners have the responsibility to at least be on the right side of history and say go get a permit, do things right, and bring a true process of transparency and accountability to all members of your community. Thank you.

[1:35:08] Okay. Thank you. Next person is Jessica Pavia.

[1:35:23] Hello.

[1:35:24] Yes, I'm sorry. I was coming apart.

[1:35:27] So we talked about how morally is wrong.

[1:35:32] However, I guess I would talk about the reality, right?

[1:35:36] So Angelus, fornia, we're not allowed to have the attention.

[1:35:41] Pro, for profit, the attention centers.

[1:35:44] We have portions of AB32 that prohibited private detention centers to have or profits and should not be working in the state of California.

[1:35:57] So therefore that's a radio violation for the fact that they're asking for a permit to even open up that sentence.

[1:36:02] a prison because it was a prison. It wasn't a detention center. And now they want to do

[1:36:07] pro pro or profit detention center in California. It's ridiculous that you guys are even thinking

[1:36:12] of even creating that. It's not okay for you guys to prove that and approving or sending such

[1:36:20] youth creates legal instability and exposes the city for future enforcement and they get litigations

[1:36:26] risk. It's also the local thorny and conditional youth permit issues. Again, they start

[1:36:31] They opened up that facility without any permits, not entirely for any, no type of zoning permits.

[1:36:38] It's completely wrong.

[1:36:40] It's expensive.

[1:36:41] It's coming from taxpayers.

[1:36:42] It's coming from the community.

[1:36:44] You have the community.

[1:36:46] A parade.

[1:36:47] And since Saturday, there has been ice presence in Angela Valley.

[1:36:51] And the community has been fearful.

[1:36:53] People have been kidnapped into the city.

[1:36:55] And it's not okay.

[1:36:57] Talk about the environmental.

[1:37:00] California Environmental Quality Act, it also increases the use of it, and it's a public

[1:37:07] safety for the environment as well, and it creates new public health concerns.

[1:37:12] The emergency responses are will also be slower since there will be more people coming in.

[1:37:20] And then health safety code will be a concern.

[1:37:23] It raises private attendance to the services included in the

[1:37:26] accurate medical and mental health care, which we've already heard.

[1:37:30] So many people have already spoke about this.

[1:37:33] So many people are not getting their medication.

[1:37:35] They're not seeing, they're not being looked at when they have health concerns.

[1:37:39] This is not okay. It's unsafe for overcrowing overcrowded living conditions

[1:37:44] and facing me basic sanitation and safety standards.

[1:37:48] This is not okay.

[1:37:50] I've been here every often and I always say even times when good people do nothing this what are you guys doing all you have to say is

[1:38:00] No, you will not allow this attention center to not even the attention center call it what it is this concentration camp to continue in this state

[1:38:09] It is not okay for California to have a concentration camp. Let's talk about it. We talk about a German and not to

[1:38:16] Hitler and we learn about it and flow how that is back

[1:38:20] What are we doing? This is exactly what it is. We're repeating the mistake of history.

[1:38:26] This is literally why we have history castes. So we know not to repeat the mistakes.

[1:38:32] This is noxie Germany. This is a concentration camp. Thank you, man. Your time is up, please.

[1:38:37] Okay. Thank you. Next I can't see she just put on the video. I think it's a lady. I can't see that.

[1:38:48] I'm sorry, my eyes of this far away on that board.

[1:38:51] Okay, please go ahead.

[1:38:54] Of course, no worries, thank you commissioner.

[1:38:56] My name is Chris Howard O'Aes and I'm a Senior Managing Attorney

[1:38:59] at the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.

[1:39:01] We are national experts in immigration law

[1:39:04] and have a team dedicated to supporting the Central Valley

[1:39:06] including here in Kern County.

[1:39:09] First, thank you for your time and your attention

[1:39:12] over these meetings.

[1:39:13] I appreciate that this is a tense moment in history

[1:39:15] for everybody and we appreciate your leadership

[1:39:18] and your time in this moment.

[1:39:20] My organization helped write SB 29.

[1:39:23] It is our physician that there should be two SB 29 hearings

[1:39:26] before the planning commission.

[1:39:28] So there should be an additional hearing

[1:39:30] before the planning commission before any permit approval.

[1:39:34] Respectfully, the notice for today's hearing

[1:39:36] was an operating contrary to this spirit of SB 29.

[1:39:40] SB 29 is the public participation

[1:39:42] and then respectfully notice for today's hearing was quick and very close to the holidays.

[1:39:49] We understand that the city has put in work and effort in combing through applicable local laws

[1:39:56] and state laws to confirm next steps and we do appreciate that. Meanwhile,

[1:40:00] Corsovic opened and began operating them lawfully without any such care.

[1:40:05] Corsovic's rapid and shoddy opening is directly related to the terrible conditions inside.

[1:40:10] From day one, the cells were dirty and medical care was negligent.

[1:40:15] Disability rights advocates, there are an organization that's actually charged with monitoring facilities just like this.

[1:40:21] They personally inspect the facility recently.

[1:40:23] They toward the facility.

[1:40:24] They spoke with orthodic staff.

[1:40:26] They talked to people who were detained there.

[1:40:29] And they issued a report finding that orthodic bill to provide access to medical medical care.

[1:40:34] Utilized solitary confinement and necessarily also maintain staff who harassed detained people and failed to meet basic needs related to food water and clothing and we're happy to provide that part should you like to review it.

[1:40:48] There has separately also been a lawsuit followed against Pacific on conditions alone.

[1:40:53] That lawsuit is challenging the constitutionally inadequate medical care discrimination against people with disabilities and interfering with people's rights to hire and consult with their attorneys.

[1:41:04] And if there's any doubt about these conditions, we're happy to provide any documentation you may need.

[1:41:11] Members of the Planning Commission, I know that you're good people, and I trust that you are equally offended by the way people are being treated in this facility.

[1:41:18] And while these moments can make people feel helpless, we trust in your leadership in this moment.

[1:41:24] We trust in you holding courseific accountable to apply for a conditional use permit.

[1:41:29] Of course, it clearly doesn't care.

[1:41:31] We know that they're operating them off way right now,

[1:41:33] but we trust that you do care,

[1:41:35] and we urge you to require a course of it

[1:41:37] to apply for a conditional use permit.

[1:41:40] Not only is that the right legal move,

[1:41:43] but it's also the right move in terms of the impact

[1:41:46] to the community.

[1:41:47] Does your 15-year contracts?

[1:41:49] Meaning that the facility would open until 2040.

[1:41:52] It's the largest facility on the west coast,

[1:41:54] meaning that things like your roads,

[1:41:55] your water, your emergency services are going to be

[1:42:00] impacted.

[1:42:01] Again, the urge you to please require the course

[1:42:03] of the apply for conditional use permit

[1:42:05] and in the meantime, hold them accountable by finding them

[1:42:08] and doing what else ever else is in your power.

[1:42:11] Thank you so much.

[1:42:11] OK, thank you.

[1:42:13] Next person is Eunice.

[1:42:21] I did evening.

[1:42:22] I actually have three folks attending California City

[1:42:26] who would like to provide a comment.

[1:42:29] Is it okay if we put three minutes on the clock for each of them?

[1:42:43] I don't take that as a yes.

[1:42:45] I'm just thinking it over because we haven't run into this before.

[1:42:50] Are these people going to identify themselves?

[1:42:52] Yes.

[1:42:53] Okay.

[1:42:55] We will now are you going to speak to?

[1:42:58] So there's four people all together?

[1:43:00] I'm not speaking.

[1:43:01] I'm just connected.

[1:43:02] Okay, you're coordinating.

[1:43:03] I understand.

[1:43:04] Okay.

[1:43:04] Very good.

[1:43:04] Okay, we will allow each person three minutes, and let the first, and I assume they're with you.

[1:43:13] No, they're not with you. This is a phone.

[1:43:21] Can they begin?

[1:43:26] Okay, just a minute. Okay, I was just trying to understand what's going on here.

[1:43:32] Nobody told me about this. Okay.

[1:43:34] Eunice, go ahead and have your first person.

[1:43:37] Okay. Thank you.

[1:45:32] Okay, units are they all using the same phone? No. Okay, because I was going to recommend whoever it's almost indistinguishable what that gentleman said. So the next person if they, you know, we'll let you know if we can't hear him.

[1:45:48] Okay, thank you. Yeah, just one of the other ongoing issues over their quality of phones.

[1:45:55] Yeah. Well, I think if they held it just a little bit farther away, a might have helped, but

[1:46:00] anyway, we'll work on it. Okay. So you can get the second person,

[1:46:04] queue it up and let them start, please.

[1:46:10] I was kind. Go ahead.

[1:48:45] Okay, thank you.

[1:48:48] Okay, units, do you still have the third person? Yes. Okay.

[1:51:53] Okay, thank you.

[1:51:57] We'll move on to the next person. And that's going to be Bruno.

[1:52:03] Okay, please stand by.

[1:52:05] We're going to take a five-minute recess real quick for a restroom break and then we'll reconvene

[1:52:12] here. It's 7.52 right now. If I'm in at 7.57, we'll start back up. Thank you.

[1:52:53] Okay. We call the meeting back to order after our recess and we will be returning to everybody.

[1:53:01] There's only two people left in Chamber and they've already spoke, so we'll finish out all the

[1:53:08] And so I think, oh, you put on the video, is that Bruno was the first person that any switch

[1:53:17] on his video?

[1:53:19] So please go ahead.

[1:53:23] Thank you.

[1:53:24] Good evening.

[1:53:25] Commissioner, my name is Bruno with the California Immigrant Policy Center, and I'm here

[1:53:30] to stand with the families and communities urging you to stop or civics, unlawful operation

[1:53:36] in California City.

[1:53:37] I want to acknowledge that we just heard from three people who are currently detained in

[1:53:42] core civic before recess.

[1:53:46] Planning Commissioner, you mentioned that it was indistinguishable to hear one of the community

[1:53:49] members who was sharing his stories of the abysmal conditions inside.

[1:53:54] These stories remind me when I was 17 years old and my parent was detained in an eye facility

[1:53:59] here in California.

[1:54:01] and human treatment, deplorable conditions with everyday life.

[1:54:06] No access to medical care, no access to family, no access to legal counsel.

[1:54:12] People who constitutional rights are being violated, left and right.

[1:54:18] And so I just wanted to honor the stories we heard from a mother, we heard from a 15-year-old

[1:54:23] senior man who has retained and heard all his life and been deported.

[1:54:28] Many people here on this call are you're wondering why people are calling in from around California because this impacts our entire state.

[1:54:36] Core Civic is operating the largest private prison or private detention facility in California without a valid business license and conditioners permit since April I believe this year.

[1:54:48] If they are operating without adherence to local and state laws was happening behind these prison walls.

[1:54:55] Since June 6th, 10,000 Californians, according to Department of Homeland Security, have been arrested during mass immigration rates and in-discriminate arrest conducted by mass heavily armed federal agents, I work places on our streets and in our neighborhoods.

[1:55:14] And even in sensitive locations like schools, hospitals, and churches, guns, drawn at pastures in downing Los Angeles, California.

[1:55:23] Federal agents are arresting Californians based on the color of their skin, the language

[1:55:28] to speak, and the type of work that they do. We're seeing federal agents every attacking,

[1:55:34] arresting and retaining Californians without identification without biological warrants,

[1:55:41] and without regard for our constitutional rights. Our mothers, our fathers, our grandparents,

[1:55:46] our siblings, our co-workers, and our neighbors are being hunted and arrested in our streets,

[1:55:53] across Los Angeles and California, by the authoritarian government by his secret police force,

[1:56:00] and being transferred to California City, where their rights are being violated, left and right,

[1:56:06] and are forced to live in a business condition that no human being on God's Green Earth should ever have to be subjected to.

[1:56:14] We are here to respectfully urge you to exercise your power and enforce California, cities,

[1:56:20] municipal codes, and protect public safety for all of us by requiring that core civic

[1:56:26] follow the law and apply for conditionally use permits and keep them accountable. We, the

[1:56:33] people of California choose dignity and justice. Core civic, the billion dollar private

[1:56:37] prison corporation will always choose profit, over health and safety, over the local economy,

[1:56:43] and over justice. Okay, thank you.

[1:56:45] California, you can not continue to allow for civic to

[1:56:47] underline your time. Your time, sir.

[1:56:50] Your time, sir.

[1:56:53] Next one is Jonathan.

[1:56:55] I can't read your last name.

[1:56:57] It's cut off on the screen.

[1:56:59] So if you would, please, go ahead.

[1:57:05] Hi, my name is Jonathan Partridge.

[1:57:07] I am the co-chair of San Joaquin refugee and immigrant support and empowerment,

[1:57:14] which is the Immigration Commission for the Episcopal Diasis of

[1:57:18] and walking in, which actually includes your area,

[1:57:21] we have a congregation that's over in Ridgecrest.

[1:57:26] And I mean, I just want to echo some of the things

[1:57:30] that everybody else is saying on one hand,

[1:57:32] in terms of the conditions in Cal City,

[1:57:34] we have a decant who has gone over to the detention center

[1:57:41] to visit folks and has noted the abysmal conditions.

[1:57:44] And in addition to that, it's having an impact, not just on California City, but on the surrounding region as well.

[1:57:53] We have, I think, Michael's Ridgecrest, a Spanish speaking congregation that has been meeting there.

[1:58:01] There was thriving and is now on the brink of disappearing essentially, people are too scared to go outside,

[1:58:08] because they know that this detention center is in Eastern Kern County and in relatively

[1:58:16] nearby. So it's not just impacting Cal City, it's impacting the entire region. And as a

[1:58:25] person of faith, I mean, I'm a Christian for us, the belief that Jesus says, when you welcome

[1:58:35] stranger you welcome me. That word that's used, it's actually the same root word of xenophobia,

[1:58:44] xenos, and Greek, and the Bible. And so in our own faith tradition, this is something that

[1:58:51] is essential that we are not antagonizing those who are, well, we're welcome the stranger,

[1:58:59] you're welcome the foreigner, not to persecute them.

[1:59:04] And so I just plead with you.

[1:59:08] I've been to Cal City.

[1:59:10] I've seen actually the condition of the buildings

[1:59:13] that you have there.

[1:59:15] And like I've been to Coyote Cafe, had a great breakfast there.

[1:59:19] I know that they would never serve muddy water there,

[1:59:22] and that would never be allowed by your city.

[1:59:24] And so I asked that you would hold all structures

[1:59:27] to the same standards that you hold everything else and not allow this detention center

[1:59:33] which is under a horrible conditions. This is everybody's mention to operate within your community.

[1:59:40] You all are better than that and thank you so much for your time.

[1:59:45] Okay, thank you. Next person is going to be Monica?

[2:00:00] So, I go up on my day because I was scared that I would never get to see my father again.

[2:00:06] So, to the same lack of like, because I know how medication they're not scared because people have,

[2:00:12] people have diet and other detention center from that communication and I'm scared that my father could be next.

[2:00:18] My father is 60 years old. He's not a, he's not supposed to be there. He's, he doesn't get his medicine.

[2:00:27] whenever he gets his medicine to his medicine if he's too high or too low, he's been

[2:00:31] hospitalized, he's been hospitalized, about three times he got there, I think he got through

[2:00:36] the August, he got through the August, and he's been hospitalized three times, he's recently

[2:00:40] changed him to a new dormitory, the conditions are really bad, there's no dormitory, there's no water,

[2:00:47] the toilet stone flesh, there's no water, the toilet stone flesh, they really don't care about you

[2:00:55] They're like, if you're in there, they don't care about you at all.

[2:00:58] They just treat you like animals,

[2:00:59] cause like, that's what they think you are.

[2:01:01] They treat you like animals, cause they think you have no feelings.

[2:01:05] People have died.

[2:01:06] There's four people that have died due to them,

[2:01:08] not having a medication in there.

[2:01:10] It's just a really bad place.

[2:01:11] And I urge you to close that place out,

[2:01:13] because if you seriously care about your people,

[2:01:15] and you care about that city,

[2:01:17] I urge you to close that place down.

[2:01:19] Because there's people dying,

[2:01:20] you don't want that to be on your record.

[2:01:21] This is history, you don't want it.

[2:01:23] I don't want this to be part of your California City history because it's going to impact your city and it's going to be a terrible

[2:01:30] terrible look upon your history. Thank you.

[2:01:35] Okay, thank you. The next person up there is an empty chair in the video so we'll bypass that person if they come back.

[2:01:44] We'll get back to them. Next is D&D interpreter.

[2:01:51] I think it was or I hope I got that right.

[2:02:01] I can't see the name connected. That's been cut off.

[2:02:04] It just says capital D, capital N, capital D, and then looks like the beginning of interpreter.

[2:02:12] Yes. Hi. Sorry. Oh, no worries. No worries. Please go ahead.

[2:02:16] Yes. Thanks. Yes. I was hoping to interpret it. I might come on to help interpret a couple more testimonies coming up.

[2:02:22] Hello.

[2:02:24] Hello.

[2:02:24] We do a collection of new interpretations.

[2:02:27] I'm perfect so we can go with Angelana Angelasta's list,

[2:02:32] huh?

[2:02:32] What's going on interpreter?

[2:02:35] So I was going to share my own testimony,

[2:02:37] but it sounds like one of the mothers is ready to share their story.

[2:02:40] Angel, are you ready? Angelasta's list,

[2:02:45] huh?

[2:02:45] It's just that she doesn't know how to use the...

[2:02:49] Yeah, but she doesn't.

[2:02:50] Don't have access to the office to raise her hand on them.

[2:02:53] She has.

[2:02:54] Bro, that's it.

[2:02:55] Me, what's it?

[2:02:57] Okay, okay, so it sounds like you're ready to go, please go ahead.

[2:03:26] at the point that they are

[2:03:29] bringing them to the point that they don't

[2:03:31] get more of these detentions.

[2:03:34] They don't get to the point

[2:03:35] of the detentions where

[2:03:38] they are affecting a lot

[2:03:40] of us, as a family,

[2:03:43] and, interestingly, I have

[2:03:44] as a mother of my son,

[2:03:45] that has affected me all this.

[2:03:48] And for me, it's a

[2:03:50] in San Cidumbre, and a suffering.

[2:03:55] It was my son, in that place in Serrado,

[2:03:59] it was 10 months of being in that place,

[2:04:02] and it was a suffering for me, as a mother,

[2:04:05] and also for all my family, and, well, I don't know.

[2:04:12] I hope you, well, help us,

[2:04:16] so that they don't get more of this detention,

[2:04:19] They're asking me to pay you not to?

[2:04:20] I am asking for my family?

[2:04:24] And thank you.

[2:04:31] Thank you.

[2:04:32] Thank you, I spoke to you again.

[2:04:33] I got the freedom.

[2:04:34] Thank you!

[2:04:36] Thank you Yuri, my name is Ágil Amontoya, and my mother of Rafael Montoía.

[2:04:42] Since this has happened, this has been very impactful to me and my family.

[2:04:46] He's been there for 10 months.

[2:04:50] I think this meeting here is supposed to be able to help us and make the decision

[2:04:54] and that we stop the detention center from operating.

[2:04:57] This has been super hurtful and uncertain

[2:05:00] and just so much suffering for me and my family,

[2:05:03] these last 10 months that to see my son,

[2:05:05] there as a mother.

[2:05:07] So I call on you all to help us

[2:05:10] so that we can stop this family separation.

[2:05:12] Thank you.

[2:05:13] Okay, thank you.

[2:05:15] Next on the list is the bad sister it says.

[2:05:23] Hello.

[2:05:25] Thank you very much.

[2:05:26] Can you hear me?

[2:05:26] yes we can please go ahead okay i'm inspired by the people that have talked about religion

[2:05:33] and what jesus said he would do and so i'm going to read the seven tenants of satinism

[2:05:40] if it doesn't hurt be kind to all every creature fake or small use good sense and follow

[2:05:46] through but just remember to love you too do what's fair and never stray even when rules get in

[2:05:53] way. Always stand for what is right and when it's dark, you'll be the light. Your body is yours

[2:06:00] and yours alone. You make the choices let it be known. Nobody else can say what to do. Your body

[2:06:06] is special just like you. Respect everyone's right to be, especially when they disagree. If there

[2:06:16] words make you mad, set them free. Don't be sad. Science helps us to understand the world

[2:06:22] and always see. So we shouldn't bend the truth to prop up our beliefs. We all make mistakes.

[2:06:29] That much is true, but let's make it right before we are through. Right your wrongs and do

[2:06:36] what you can. It's never too late to reach out your hand. Be kind, be wise, be fair, each day,

[2:06:43] Let these words guide your way, but more than words let action show compassion and justice let them flow.

[2:06:52] This is the children's version of the satanic temples seven tenets of satinism, and I sit here and see and write in front of me and God we trust and

[2:07:02] Starting with a prayer. So I'm here to represent everyone that is not a Christian

[2:07:07] that is not religious, or whatever it is, because we all stand on the sides of our brothers and sisters,

[2:07:15] especially the ones that are in detainment right now, being illegally arrested, being treated

[2:07:21] like human vermin, a quote from Hitler, this is what is happening, and this is happening in our

[2:07:30] in Southern California, and the largest detention center.

[2:07:35] We need to stop this.

[2:07:37] You all, sit in front of that in God we trust.

[2:07:40] Do you?

[2:07:42] Are you going by the words of Jesus?

[2:07:45] And the seven tenets of Satanism are for humans,

[2:07:50] humanitarianism.

[2:07:52] I love the words of Jesus.

[2:07:54] I love the words of a lot of religious people.

[2:07:57] And here you sit with this power

[2:08:00] in your hands to stop this manzan art, to point out, manzan art for brown people. And it needs

[2:08:08] to stop. And also you are breaking the law and violating the Constitution by doing a prayer

[2:08:14] and having us all stare at an in-god we trust. Thank you.

[2:08:19] Thank you. Next one is Casey, Europe.

[2:08:33] Yeah, thank you so much to the council. Can you hear me okay?

[2:08:37] Yes, please go ahead.

[2:08:39] Okay, thank you.

[2:08:41] I, my news case, I'm actually, I'm not in California City. I'm actually live in a

[2:08:47] staff, but I'm actually in Dublin right now. I'm at the Dublin City Council meeting.

[2:08:51] Supporting a resolution to not open FCI Dublin as a detention center. I'm also

[2:08:57] these American and Descendant of World War II American concentration camps, and I know my previous

[2:09:04] speaker, the bad sister just went up and stands in there and I'll come back to that in a

[2:09:07] little bit. But you've heard so many people from so many different identities, with relationships

[2:09:13] to the center in California City, literally mothers of folks detained and children of those

[2:09:18] which I'm crying about, and I'm so inspired by their bravery.

[2:09:25] So I'm not sure what else we can say on this call,

[2:09:28] to continue by gain and pleading with you to choose humanity.

[2:09:33] But I will say that history does not look finally

[2:09:36] on those who enact violence and serve the fittings

[2:09:39] of rich private corporations like courseific

[2:09:42] that do not care about people.

[2:09:44] They don't care about the immigrants they play in detention centers.

[2:09:47] They do not care about me, they do not care about you, they do not care about California City.

[2:09:53] They care about money and profit.

[2:09:55] And the longer you let this attention center continue, the more it will suck the life out of California City

[2:10:00] until your city is barely recognizable.

[2:10:03] Having this attention center, we'll do that just as a Dittumans march, just two hours north of you.

[2:10:08] Having a detention center there forever changed the landscape of the land.

[2:10:12] Significantly affecting the land's water through extraction.

[2:10:15] This detention center will overburden your water on top of just the horrible, violent human rights abuses it is already enacting.

[2:10:26] And I know you care about your residents and your city, you must.

[2:10:30] You can stop this by simply doing what you're elected to and force your own local laws by requiring the course of it by requiring course of it to apply for a conditional use permit.

[2:10:42] I just want to say it was time I haven't so inspired by the other speakers of tonight.

[2:10:47] And I hope you listen to us. Thank you.

[2:10:50] Thank you.

[2:10:51] Next person I don't want to miss pronounced the name that's up there.

[2:10:55] But then it starts with Gabby in parentheses.

[2:11:02] Yeah, it's been, it's really mean.

[2:11:05] Yeah,

[2:11:07] even as an immigrant, you're not coming to these meetings for a bit.

[2:11:12] from the desire of San Jose.

[2:11:18] It's very sad because you guys have blood in your hands already,

[2:11:24] by allowing this to happen. By allowing it to happen and now we just know permits and just

[2:11:33] having people win our animals, man. Win our animals. You understand? This is wrong and I told you

[2:11:45] before, how can you go to sleep, how can you live with yourself. You have the chance to stop

[2:11:51] saying this, no, you gotta go get your permit, whatever, you have a chance to

[2:11:59] to the

[2:11:59] regime and you will not do anything. What are you telling you, kids? I think you have all the kids,

[2:12:07] right? What are you telling them? What kind of job are you doing as a public official?

[2:12:14] They said, we tire, but we're resilient, and take me wrong, we're not going to stop.

[2:12:23] You understand?

[2:12:26] This has changed, you do in the Hitler's work.

[2:12:30] This is not the intention centers.

[2:12:32] This is concentration camps.

[2:12:34] What is next?

[2:12:36] God's chambers?

[2:12:38] That was next for us?

[2:12:46] Shame on you.

[2:12:49] Our ancestors.

[2:12:50] are watching or children

[2:12:59] watching.

[2:13:05] This is not going to last forever.

[2:13:10] Some organizations

[2:13:10] get together here in Sudha City and sue you guys severely because being here legally

[2:13:17] is not a crime. It's a civil thing. Okay? It's a part in for that. Okay? And also it's not

[2:13:28] to get us all, get us, if you guys get us, if the federal government

[2:13:34] gave you a number, the S.A.I.T. number to pay taxes, and let me tell you

[2:13:40] something, a hundred billion dollars I.G. and profit, this country is making

[2:13:47] a bus. That's why they want to keep us in the shadows. That's why they want to

[2:13:53] keep us in the shadows because we don't collect so security, we don't collect

[2:13:56] who stamps, we don't qualify for housing, we don't qualify for help get, we don't qualify

[2:14:03] for nothing, but we qualify to pay taxes.

[2:14:09] Thank you.

[2:14:12] Well, it looks like our empty chair got filled by the gentleman with the beard, so we'll

[2:14:17] come back to you and whatever, okay, thank you for muting, gentlemen with the beard,

[2:14:27] to just came back to your chair.

[2:14:29] Please go ahead.

[2:14:33] Good to meet you sir.

[2:14:34] Yes sir, you got it.

[2:14:35] All right.

[2:14:36] Thank you guys.

[2:14:38] Good evening, my name's Ever.

[2:14:39] Formerly detained at California City.

[2:14:41] I want to cite some California City violations,

[2:14:45] but please I want to thank the commissioners

[2:14:47] to please Alphazel and the facility

[2:14:50] because it's very inhumane.

[2:14:52] I was there from a personal account.

[2:14:54] I'm going to tell you the following.

[2:14:56] I'm August 29th, 2020 phase, we're transferred with us.

[2:15:00] Our private noise to our lawyers or families or ourselves, upon arrival, we were padded down in a sectioning

[2:15:05] a truce of way where our private's were touched and wrote, I found never felt so uncomfortable in my life.

[2:15:12] Having multiple officers everywhere we were padded down sectioning, private's were touched for the yard,

[2:15:19] a private's were touched for the medical. It's a very military camp I would say is not even a detention facility.

[2:15:27] The medical neglect is rampant.

[2:15:32] I have back follows and I ask for a back raise and I'll soon be told that they don't provide that there.

[2:15:39] I've heard a thousand people grow without less for over two weeks.

[2:15:44] Another one went to medical and man down because he had severe stomach pains and couldn't even walk.

[2:15:50] Upon arrival to medical, it told him that he could buy the medicine himself, a commissary.

[2:15:55] He said that he was a severe family he needed help and they gave him two options.

[2:16:00] It's all the other.

[2:16:00] You go to the solitary attic or we take you back to yourself.

[2:16:05] But he was forced to go back to himself because he was thrown with solitary confinement

[2:16:10] by the medical personnel and officers there.

[2:16:14] People's sightness were discontinued.

[2:16:17] People were going through really hard times because they couldn't function without the

[2:16:23] conference, property was lost since day one, upon transfer from out of that place, one

[2:16:32] detainee asked for a sample that was missing for his property and sent facility staff

[2:16:37] 50 told them that they were going to look for it, but never did. Then all of a sudden we

[2:16:42] accidentally got pepper sprayed and left it to a holding tank for over 2 hours and that's

[2:16:47] when we were taking out and changed and finally a nurse came and asked us to bring water. That's

[2:16:52] We talked about that until we were a pepper spread and choking, we had to hang on the windows

[2:16:57] and tell them that we were choking and the holy taste because we were a pepper spread.

[2:17:03] The wherers fix out against these people and the facility, that's where a lot of people

[2:17:08] are remaining in anonymous, if you notice, because retaliation is mandatory, they're going to

[2:17:14] come for you, they're going to take you to the home, they're going to find a reason to take

[2:17:17] you to the home, whether you're in the shower late or count or anything.

[2:17:21] Speaking of cows, there's excessively a lot of cows

[2:17:24] there, six count cents in which we're locked in ourselves

[2:17:27] we're over two hours, there are numerous officers

[2:17:31] walking counting, like they can't count 80 or so

[2:17:34] individuals in every pot, and the way I see it as a way

[2:17:39] for them to take a break because they're being overly

[2:17:41] worked,

[2:17:45] they want us to have three cells, but they'll

[2:17:47] provide cleaning materials, sanitation, disinfectant,

[2:17:51] for example, there's none exist in there, they only

[2:17:53] bring very enough to clean the shower.

[2:17:57] What's less or less or less?

[2:17:58] Okay, thank you, sir.

[2:18:00] Sorry your time is up.

[2:18:01] We'll be thinking for a little.

[2:18:03] Thank you, sir.

[2:18:03] Thank you.

[2:18:05] Next is Rosa Lopez.

[2:18:14] I'm sorry, I'm calling for my phone.

[2:18:15] Can you hear me?

[2:18:16] Yes, we can, please go ahead.

[2:18:18] Okay, yes.

[2:18:20] Today, my name is Rosa.

[2:18:22] And I was unable to attend the percent

[2:18:24] because of the attempt to bypass this matter

[2:18:27] under the rug, you know, to, as an end of the rug and by

[2:18:31] past the requirement of SB 29, which mandates that any business

[2:18:35] license permits or other instrument, authorized and

[2:18:38] immigration attention, definitely must include two public

[2:18:42] hearings and provide the public with 180 days. This hearing does not

[2:18:47] need that requirement. Anything short of that fails to satisfy the laws

[2:18:51] intent of transparency and meaningful public participation.

[2:18:55] But I'm really moved by the people who were able to show up, you know, really last minute because this hearing was scheduled very last minute because we are really worried with the direction that this decision is going and we are here tonight to urge you to use your authority to protect the community.

[2:19:18] At a minimum, the city must require a core civic to apply for the correct permit, a conditional use permit.

[2:19:27] Any permit previously associated with the facility does not apply.

[2:19:31] As it formally operated as a state present, immigration processing center could not be grandfathered into prior permits or contract.

[2:19:40] There is currently a pending lawsuit against California City and, of course,

[2:19:44] with challenging this exact violations, violations of SB-29, and the city's failure

[2:19:51] to follow required local legal and public processes before we opening this facility

[2:19:57] as an in-equation detention center.

[2:19:59] The California City Council has attempted to downplay this issue by claiming its

[2:20:04] a federal matter, or that they've said that they've visited the facility and it looks

[2:20:10] fine to them. This is not solely a federal issue. It's also a matter of local authority

[2:20:17] and the enforcement of local law. The city has both authority and the discretion to deny

[2:20:24] a condition on this permit, because as you heard from testimonies of the testimonies,

[2:20:29] that this is not what our community need.

[2:20:32] Our urge to exercise our power and the interest of transparency, accountability, and human dignity.

[2:20:40] I'm here pleading again, pleading you the planning commission to take immediate action

[2:20:46] and enforce California's cities, municipal codes, and protect public safety.

[2:20:51] Failure to act enables a lawful conduct and allow human right violations to continue unchecked.

[2:20:58] As you've heard from numerous types of morning, since our lovely detainee, people in August of this year,

[2:21:05] hundreds of complaints from detainee individuals that are using etiquette have documented deplorable conditions,

[2:21:12] ongoing abuse, neglect, retaliation, UN, the California City Health Department, the legal and ethical obligation to enforce our local order and protect the community that is affected by this facility.

[2:21:28] I play with you once again, that you will sound the right side of history, and exercise our power

[2:21:35] to hold course over the count of rule, because no one in no corporation is above the law.

[2:21:40] Thank you. Next is Interfaith Ministries, I think that is.

[2:21:48] Hi, good evening. My name is Reverend Deborah Lee, and I'm the co-director of a statewide

[2:21:55] organization called Interface Movement for Human Integrity, and we bring together people

[2:22:00] a faith, faith leaders, and people a faith people trying to live out their faith in a way of

[2:22:06] integrity. And what does it mean to be a person of faith in the complex and challenging times that we live?

[2:22:12] One of our core beliefs is that every person is a great, every person is a child of God.

[2:22:19] Every person has dignity, and that has been evident in this call tonight. We've heard from

[2:22:23] ever. We've heard from Jonathan. We've heard from Gabriel. We've heard from Monica about her father

[2:22:29] and Raphael, from his mother, and we bring to mind a father who was snatched away from his six

[2:22:38] month old at his green card appointment. So there are so many children of God that are living in

[2:22:44] your community and are being deprived of their basic humanity. There's an elderly Vietnamese monk

[2:22:51] who, you know, was detained from a monastery did not, does not speak much English.

[2:22:57] He has memory problems, and he could not remember any of his contacts.

[2:23:01] He has a daughter, but he didn't know how to contact her.

[2:23:04] I was no information at all.

[2:23:06] These are the people who are getting lost and harmed by this institution in your community.

[2:23:12] I am haunted by the words and the letter that I received that said,

[2:23:15] please, we need help.

[2:23:17] We have no medicine, and we do not have enough food.

[2:23:21] people are being denied religious services. They're being denied contact visits, just the basic

[2:23:27] ability to speak with their loved one, not through glass and a broken phone. And you could

[2:23:32] say the quality of the phone that we heard today. And being just being denied communication

[2:23:36] in general, they're being denied letters that I have sent in. I could go on and on, but I just

[2:23:42] want to say that the choice, you have a choice. And I probably, I'm guessing that many of

[2:23:47] people to face and you have a choice. And I want to say, we are here to give you courage.

[2:23:53] We are here to tell you that you're not alone and we all stand in this moment in history

[2:23:57] to make courageous decisions. I want you to please hear the cries that you have heard tonight.

[2:24:05] Jesus says that the greatest, I'm a Christian. I want to say that Jesus says that the greatest

[2:24:10] two commandments are to love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. And then

[2:24:14] The second is to love your neighbor as yourself, and so I'm asking you to just love your neighbor,

[2:24:21] and to decide with your neighbors, not the billionaire corporations who don't give a damn about you,

[2:24:26] and who use their money to circumvent democracy in California.

[2:24:30] When the legislature California already said that private detention isn't immoral business,

[2:24:35] they threw their dollars at it, and they circumvent a democracy.

[2:24:38] They don't care about Californians, they only care about their shareholders.

[2:24:42] So asking you to side with the people, their voices will haunt you, their traumas will

[2:24:47] haunt you.

[2:24:48] But we are here to stand with you and you could join the lawsuits.

[2:24:51] California City has already been sued twice.

[2:24:53] You could join our lawsuits against Corsidic for opening up illegally.

[2:24:57] I'm asking you to do this for your own moral soul and to take courage and to take

[2:25:05] your faith at the deepest core level, it is to guide you in the right decision.

[2:25:10] Thank you.

[2:25:10] Thank you. The next one, I cannot see a person, and I, but there. Is it Judith?

[2:25:23] Is there a person there? Or are they facing the other direction?

[2:25:32] Oh, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't,

[2:25:36] don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. It's the

[2:25:37] And I sent him a guy, okay.

[2:25:39] Oh, Judith, I remember from the council meeting now.

[2:25:42] Okay, I'm with you.

[2:25:44] Okay, let's, yeah, I understand.

[2:25:49] I, as you can tell, from up here,

[2:25:51] you can't see much on that board.

[2:25:54] Okay, we have to listen.

[2:25:58] Hi, I'm so sorry that it's hard to see me

[2:26:00] on a faster and a car.

[2:26:02] And I think you can only kind of get my shadow

[2:26:04] if there's headlights or street lights,

[2:26:07] But I really want it to come and talk to and urge you again and again to, to give

[2:26:16] it a course of it.

[2:26:17] I mean, they don't have a permit, you know they are keeping people in degrading and horrible

[2:26:27] conditions and I'm urging you as someone that is a person of faith to treat favors with

[2:26:38] but not with cruelty. And it doesn't even take a person to face to say, I mean, you don't have to be affiliated with any face to have a moral compass that says, this is wrong.

[2:26:52] And I know that doing the right thing is to say,

[2:26:56] So you have to have a permit. No, actually, if you apply for a permit, well, you don't want to. We don't want you in California. We don't want you to harm our neighbors. We don't want you to hurt people as you, as you rip families apart. We don't want you to keep people in terrible conditions.

[2:27:15] And we just don't want it. We just don't want this in California.

[2:27:21] And California, we are exactly where we state this, this goes to get everything.

[2:27:27] I urge you please, please, please, to require a permit, application, and then when they apply, to deny it.

[2:27:36] Because this is a horrible, horrible stain on our state, on our history.

[2:27:42] And I just urge you to do the right thing and get rid of this or from our state, from your state, just get rid of it.

[2:28:00] Thank you.

[2:28:01] Okay, thank you.

[2:28:03] Okay.

[2:28:04] The next one is D&D interpreter again, but you're already spoke once.

[2:28:16] I was able to interpret tonight, I'd like to share my own comments.

[2:28:20] Okay, this is your own personal, that's fine.

[2:28:22] Okay. Please go ahead.

[2:28:25] All right. Thank you. Hello, everyone.

[2:28:27] How good do you need my name is Alejandra?

[2:28:30] I am a member of the Dignanah Detention Coalition.

[2:28:32] It's a state-wide coalition where a lot of our members are here,

[2:28:36] where we fight to help decarcerate our community members

[2:28:40] the detention centers, how to create strategies to close down detention centers, and build strategies

[2:28:48] together and build leadership of families and factor. So I'm very proud of all the folks

[2:28:53] that share their story today to be able to share from inside of detention centers and speak out

[2:28:59] against this issue. It's just really amazing that that that that that that's able to happen

[2:29:04] that you all can hear from them. As somebody who's been detained in a core civic detention center,

[2:29:09] I can attest that they're all the same, they're all for profit, they're all there to destroy

[2:29:16] communities and give a vision of like a thriving economy where all it does is really devastating

[2:29:21] people. And I think the cool part about which you are facing here today, all of the people

[2:29:27] who can talk to you about these permits, if you are actually revoke a permit or a night as permit,

[2:29:33] like Yalkin automatically be eligible to apply for heel funding.

[2:29:40] Keele is a budget initiative that the D&D coalition helped pass

[2:29:44] a dedicated $5 million to incentivize California localities to

[2:29:48] divest from immigration detention by providing them funding to invest

[2:29:52] in new industries and dignified jobs and economies.

[2:29:56] As many as being held by the workforce development statewide,

[2:30:00] And by denying these permits, you all can tap into this money and collaborate with local communities to envision how you can bring jobs that are not just good for the land, not just good for the future, not just good for your economy, but dignified well-paying jobs, and you can work with community to apply for this and it's a great opportunity to work to again envision with your local members, which we all want to see in California city. We keep being sold, right? But there's only this way of making a decision

[2:30:30] money and this economy off of our backs and and we are saying no we don't want that it's clear here so again we are willing to work with you all to talk more about heal

[2:30:39] to envision what can be done by tapping into this $5 million and work with and work out with the workforce development and that's all thank you.

[2:30:49] Thank you.

[2:30:51] Next person, last name is Martinez.

[2:30:56] Yes, hello, Regan.

[2:30:59] My name is Sarai Martinez.

[2:31:01] I am with St. Andy Hennado Organizaciones de Nacionales,

[2:31:05] which is an organization that works

[2:31:08] with an organization with indigenous farm workers.

[2:31:12] And some of our folks and our members are most impacted

[2:31:16] As we know, we have a administration that really targets people by the skin color, not so much by, you know, like their background or criminal record as they keep cleaning.

[2:31:31] So we're here today, really just to echo what everyone's saying.

[2:31:35] I think you have heard a lot from direct testimonies from people taking and kind of pill to what angle that's going to move you.

[2:31:44] But to me, it's really asking for the council for you to really do your job looking at local permitting to ensure that you're following the law, to make sure that transparency and democracy, you have so many people here that do not represent the values, of course, civic and I'm sure and I'm hoping that it doesn't represent the values that you hold, transparency and democracy and the impact that are going to have on your law,

[2:32:13] economy and workers rights from people that work and those attention centers not only

[2:32:20] the violation that happens for people that are detained but also from the own people that work

[2:32:26] there and not to mention all the environmental impacts of course if they could be in there so

[2:32:32] again I don't think there's much to say I'm hoping that you hear what people share today

[2:32:39] And what they've been sharing all this time and that you listen and most important that you do your job.

[2:32:45] So with that, thank you for listening.

[2:32:49] Okay, thank you so much.

[2:32:51] Okay, there's no more hands on Zoom and everybody in the chamber has spoke.

[2:32:58] So that will conclude our public comment portion.

[2:33:02] According to the hearing sequence, we come back to the commission for any final comments by commissioners.

[2:33:09] Commissioner Coleman you have anything?

[2:33:14] She doesn't. Commissioner Cantra. Yeah, we had a few comments if I could Mr. Chairman.

[2:33:22] First and foremost, I want to thank everybody for taking time out of their day to come and speak their mind.

[2:33:30] I think that this is democracy at its best.

[2:33:35] I mean, if you have an opinion and you're allowed to express it, I think that's an important

[2:33:42] concept.

[2:33:43] And I thank you for speaking up.

[2:33:47] I've heard a lot of testimony tonight that is very emotional and is very, very hard

[2:33:57] to process.

[2:33:59] I want everybody to know that I believe in the rule of law.

[2:34:03] I believe that our mayor's honest, and he believes in the rule of law, and the council,

[2:34:12] the attorneys that advise the city, believe in the rule of law.

[2:34:19] And if you do believe in the rule of law, you then you're guided by the law to do the right thing.

[2:34:26] Okay, I'm sure that these matters are an area that I have no personal expertise, but I fully, fully cognizant and believe in my heart of hearts that we have people who know how to adjudicate these things and I believe that they will indeed follow them.

[2:34:56] So with that said, thank you, Mr. Chairman, for my time tonight.

[2:35:04] Okay, thank you.

[2:35:06] I only had one comment as a reminder to the public on this hearing that if you read the agenda,

[2:35:15] and you heard what our planning director read half of the agenda,

[2:35:23] that all of these comments and in our part of an administrative record, I don't know how many of you know that all of these meetings, both Council and the Commission, they're all recorded.

[2:35:37] So if you ever want to go back and look, but that is also going to be the source for the people that do make the decision, that's in this agenda.

[2:35:47] that will be their source of information because your comments are now on record.

[2:35:53] So, I assure you that the information will not be lost.

[2:35:58] So, with that, I have no further comments and because we are not requested or have a action to take,

[2:36:09] I'm going to declare the hearing over and we will move on.

[2:36:14] The last thing for the night is commissioner comments, this portion of the meeting is reserved for planning commissioners to resent information, announcements and items that have come to their attention.

[2:36:27] Stat short staff responses may be appropriate.

[2:36:31] The Planning Commission will take no formal action.

[2:36:34] The Planning Commission may request to calendar an item for consideration at a future

[2:36:40] meeting or refer an item to staff.

[2:36:44] I would like to remind the commissioners that when we get to this portion and I'm doing

[2:36:51] this because we still have brand new commissioners sitting up here and our other lady that

[2:36:56] up here that had an emergency, they're still pretty new. But as a reminder of under the commissioner

[2:37:02] comments, please remember that this is for anything in the future and announcements. It's not

[2:37:09] to make comments on anything that's transpired during the meeting on any other agenda item. So

[2:37:15] with that said, commissioner Coleman, do you have anything tonight?

[2:37:20] I just want to say the parade is

[2:37:23] on the 20th if I'm correct, and I hope to see y'all at the parade.

[2:37:27] Okay. Christmas parade. Right. Back home?

[2:37:31] Yes. Okay. Commissioner Canterra.

[2:37:34] No, nothing at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[2:37:37] Okay. I have nothing for this particular portion of the meeting. Could I have a motion to adjourn?

[2:37:48] I hereby make a motion that we adjourn.

[2:37:50] I second it.

[2:37:53] Could we have roll callable please?

[2:37:58] Commissioner Coleman.

[2:38:01] Yes.

[2:38:01] Commissioner Cantrell.

[2:38:03] Yes.

[2:38:03] And Chairman Browen.

[2:38:04] Yes.

[2:38:06] Meetings adjourned.

[2:38:08] There you go.

[2:38:09] Thank you.

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