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[5:16]
muddy in the
[5:18]
water. All right, I'd like to call the
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uh May 7th Canal Winchester Charter View
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Commission meeting to order. Roll call,
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please. Miss Famous. Mr. Connor, here.
[5:29]
Mr. Hust here. Mr. Ker here. Mr. Lan,
[5:33]
here. Mr. Mcraer here. Mr. Milikin here.
[5:37]
Mr. Scanland here. Mr. Steelman here.
[5:40]
Mr. Bile here. Mr. Young here. Thank
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you. Need a motion to excuse Miss Bumis.
[5:46]
Smooth. Second. Motion made by Mr.
[5:49]
Connor. Second by Mr. Land. Roll call.
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Mr. Connor. Yes. Mr. Land. Yes. Mr.
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Mcreer. Yes. Mr. Melikin. Yes. Mr.
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Scanland. Yes. Mr. Steelmith. Yes. Mr.
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Bile. Yes. Mr. Young. Yes. Mr. H. Yes.
[6:06]
Mr. Carson. Yes.
[6:09]
All right. Uh, approval of minutes. Um,
[6:12]
April 16, 2025 charter review M minutes.
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Do we have any issues with those?
[6:20]
Hearing none. Need a motion to approve.
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So move.
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Second.
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Motion made by Mr. Vile, second by Mr.
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McBrer. Roll call. Mr. Vile. Yes. Mr.
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McFreer. Yes. Mr. Milligan. Yes. Mr.
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Scanland. Yes. Mr. Mr. Steelmith. Yes.
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Mr. Young. Yes. Mr. Connor. Yes. Mr.
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Hust. Yes. Mr. Ker. Yes. Mr. Land. Yes.
[6:49]
Uh, public comments. Um, sorry I didn't
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get a check in with you guys. I was from
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behind. Do you guys have anything for us
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this evening? I don't think so. Neither
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of us were here last week. Okay.
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Good. Just didn't want to blow by. So,
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um, thank you, by the way. and relay the
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message to the other two that for all
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you've done. It's been much
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[Music]
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appreciated.
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Um all right. So items for discussion
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this
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evening review final redline charter. Um
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did we want to do presentation? Is that
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how we I remembered you wanted to walk
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us through it or So that's what So we
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can go line by line looking at the
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changes and then after and then as long
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as there's no controversy about any of
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them. Um at the end we have a couple
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options. If there's any disagreement
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that you want to voice on the record, we
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can make an individual motion so that
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there's a roll call vote and you can
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show that. Or if everyone's in agreement
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on the changes, which it seems like it's
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been that way, we can go through all of
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them, confirm that, wait till the end,
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and just make one big motion to accept
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the red line changes. So, I like that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's do that.
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Sorry, I got the
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uh got these pulled up on my phone.
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[Music]
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Joe, I gave you the clicker over there
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if you want to just press the arrow.
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Oh, that's cool. Okay, so starting in
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the table of contents, there were a
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couple changes, but that was just for um
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changing the names of some things. So
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adding the salary of the mayor category,
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amending it to salary of city council
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members in article three.
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Um and then renumbering a couple things
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whenever we got rid of the intentionally
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omitted sections.
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So assuming that's what that was. Yeah.
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So assuming there's no disagreement
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there, we can move on.
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Is this not happen? Sorry if this is jumping a little bit quicker
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than I had assumed. So,
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article 1.01, we changed the name and
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the boundary
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um which was just to update it to get
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rid of the village of Canal Mestrs that
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has just been there for a while. Do you
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Is there a way to get the red line? Hang
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on one second. I think it's just
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not showing the Thank you.
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Where we at? Is this
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because it should be under here?
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Matt, you just did that for me and I
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can't remember how to do it. Well, I
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think it I think it has to do with this
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computer. Let me see what I can do real
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fast.
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Um because you see how it doesn't give
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me and but do all of you have the red
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line in front of you too? Okay. So if
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you want follow I can just keep
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scrolling through and we'll follow that
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way.
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These are some of these ones are pretty.
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So hold on let's try this. Maybe. Yeah.
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There we go. All right. Great. So uh
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there were no go away then.
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I don't know what's happening on this
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computer today. I apologize for that's
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fine. I don't where to go.
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One
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more time.
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Okay, I'm not touching anything.
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Yeah. Okay. Word is on here. We are
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there. It's part of the problem. All
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right. So, we are now at article two.
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There were no changes. So that was
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great. Um, article three will start
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with getting rid of so we just basically
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changed to start getting rid of
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subsection A and then 1 2 3 because
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there is no subsection B. So it just
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didn't make a lot of sense to have it.
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So it'll just start with that text and
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then these subsections will be letters.
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Um, next in the in subsection what is
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now subsection D, it is just
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simplifying what this uh language is. I
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think it basically says the same thing.
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Um, we had agreed on. Um, so again just
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making it easier to read, less words
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involved. Um, article
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3.02 just clarifying language by getting
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rid of the word next.
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Um, article
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3.03 just changed the title to
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clarify certain
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things. Um, article
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3.04. Again, this was just a change to
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clarify that for the clerk of council
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and the day-to-day duties here when
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there's not meetings or anything, um,
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that the officers of council can
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delegate supervision to the to the mayor
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or the designate. Um, again, nothing too
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controversial here.
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Um, article
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3.05. This was a suggestion from y'all
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regarding modernizing the notice
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procedures, which again just makes sense
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given that we're in 2025
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now. Um, 3.07. So, this was the first
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big change that you guys have made um in
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terms of determining the salary of city
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council members. it's tying it to the
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Overs
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standard. Um, which again is an
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objective metric that is set by the
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state of Ohio. Um, and it's just
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clarifying for council instead of them
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having to vote on their salary every
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time, which again could be self-
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serving. And two is also uncomfortable.
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If they're a good politician, they
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probably won't vote to raise their
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salary. And two, it puts it in the hands
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of the voters if this were to make it to
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the
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ballot. Is there
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So nothing on the ballot will have a
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monetary number at all, right? No, this
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would not. So the only thing will be
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when we get to the mayor's salary, if
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council approves that, it would show the
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60 to 85 range, but in terms of the oper
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minimum, it wouldn't show a monetary
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number, but that's available online if
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people wanted to look it up. I know.
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Okay. Um there's nothing further there.
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We'll move to council
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vacancies, which that was just changing
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it from 30 to 60 days to give council
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more time. Um, and clarifying the
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qualified under section 3.02b is just uh
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making it easier to read and refer back
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to qualifications for member of
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council. Um, moving on to article
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4.04. This was just this was all one
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paragraph at first. The language isn't
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actually changed. It's just breaking up
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to make it easier to read.
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Um
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4.05 we got rid of the journal because
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it was unclear what the journal was for
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anybody here or I think for employees.
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So again nothing too
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controversial. Uh 4.07 was there were a
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couple interesting changes. This was
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just adding categories for what can be
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um legislation that takes effect
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immediately. And the purpose for it was
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that some of these have to take effect
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immediately and under the current
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process it's labeled as emergency
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legislation. Um which it's just if
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everything looks like an emergency then
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it's just tougher to get through. So
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just clarifying that this is stuff that
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can get through right away. Makes more
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sense for go back when we we talked
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about in
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uh category to add to this is
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resolutions. Um resolutions are not law
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type of thing. So, um if that's
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something they they also they're just
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required one reading. Um for example,
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the other night at council we did a
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resolution to uh recognize police week
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next week and that type of thing. Um
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those are the ones that we were are kind
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of going through. Um and they have a one
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the previous charter had three readings.
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Is that correct, Amanda? And so we took
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it from three readings now to one
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reading required and but it still has a
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30-day I think it's always been one.
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It's a long time here, but it still has
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the 30-day requirement. Yeah, but it
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still has a 30-day effected period and
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some of these things while you know the
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resolution for the police week, we're
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still going forward even though it
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officially doesn't take effect, but we
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could amend that on the fly too if
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that's of interest to you guys.
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Yeah. Okay. Subsection 11 resolutions
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number 11.
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Did Did we discuss these in our
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meetings? Yes. All of these. We can go
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back through them and discuss like No,
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that's all right. Because they broke
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down what was how many times an
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emergency was used and that the numbers
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on it. I remember that. I just
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That's a lot of Yeah.
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Don't necessarily remember a couple of
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those, but that's okay. You want to we
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can talk to him if you want. Yeah. Say
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which which ones do you not remember Mr.
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Carson?
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The grant or loan applications off from
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another government. So that is when we
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are putting um applications in for like
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Ohio public works commission funds, Ohio
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water development funds um you know a
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federal grant um application. This is
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not us going to a bank. This is us
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putting something in for from another
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government. So,
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a lot of times there's a short period of
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time to do that, right? Yeah.
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Application deadlines.
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Good to keep going. Yeah. Okay.
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Um, we will now move on all the way down
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to 4.13.
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So again, this is just a modernizing
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thing, posting things on the official
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website instead of having to put it in a
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newspaper. Um, particularly since I
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think the dispatch is the only one that
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might qualify for canal at this point.
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Okay, there might be a daily reporter,
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but yeah.
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Um, article five is just changing the
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title of it because the city
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administrator section was already within
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it. So, just if someone's looking for
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stuff about city administrator, it's
[18:02]
easier to find that way. Um, article
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5.03 though, this was another big change
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that you guys have made after a lot of
[18:10]
deliberation in terms of figuring out
[18:12]
what to do with a permanent vacancy and
[18:15]
temporary vacancies in the office of the
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mayor. Um, I know we had talked through
[18:18]
this thoroughly, but if there are any
[18:21]
changes that you guys wanted to discuss
[18:22]
or talk through, we're happy to do so.
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Just clarifying and I think we did but
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we managed to figure out the veto with
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this language. Correct. Yes. Yeah, it
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should be in there.
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A4 A4. Yeah, the
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which I will scroll. Yeah. Okay. Just
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want to make sure.
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Um any questions about that before we
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move
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on. Okay. We are now on to article 5.05.
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05 which is
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mayor's veto power. So again, this is
[19:02]
just clarifying um certain legislation
[19:05]
that wasn't subject to the veto power.
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Anyway,
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um if you refer back to 4.06 and
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4.07A, I think that is talking
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about the legislation that goes into
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effect immediately, too. So, just
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clarifying that it's not really
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functional for a mayor to have to veto
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something the day it's or at the council
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meeting that is passed at or anything
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like that.
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Um, we'll go on to
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5.06. City administrator, it's a pretty
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simple change, but consequently, you
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guys had discussed you wanted council to
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be able to confirm sort of like a US
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Senateesque type thing where at least
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they have to vote. Um, it's simple.
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Majority is the one we made it here.
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There's only seven members anyway.
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So, uh, and then again, just for the
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contract administration, it's just
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eliminating that convoluted statutory
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term and saying it's just the amount set
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by council that they consider
[20:04]
it. And then 5.07 now is the new section
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regarding the salary of the mayor. Um,
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we had made a couple changes since we
[20:16]
had last discussed it that after
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consulting with that, who's the law
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director that I work with. Um, and we
[20:22]
have them in front of you if you guys
[20:23]
want to look at it. The main change was
[20:25]
that we had determined after reading
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ethics laws um, and some of the case law
[20:29]
on it and when the charter actually goes
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into effect that council would be able
[20:34]
to vote on changing the mayor's salary
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as early as next year for the current
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term. Um but then so that's why that's
[20:42]
where that language at the beginning is
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that's labeled in red and then at the
[20:46]
end this is just clarifying that the
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mayor is taken completely out of the
[20:50]
process because that is where a lot of
[20:52]
the ethics laws also were implicated. Um
[20:55]
even though the ethics the ethics
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commission took a really hardline stance
[20:58]
that doesn't really line up with
[20:59]
statutes but this is just clarifying
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that to make sure that everything is
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good on that front. So it'll be this not
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what's in our
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Yes. Not that correct. That's Yeah,
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that's correct. Well, that might be No.
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So, that is the most updated. So, we we
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literally sent this like two hours ago.
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So, the the the version that you guys
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got last night didn't include this.
[21:21]
Okay. But it'll be So, the version that
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we adopt would be that's the only change
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from
[21:26]
what you guys had received.
[21:30]
The I did have the the one question I
[21:32]
had about this is it says
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Where is it? C um mayor salary shall
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take place at one of council's two
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regular meetings in October each year a
[21:47]
regular mayoral election is
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held. So it's not going to change until
[21:53]
so at that point. So there's two
[21:55]
components to this. So one would be if
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it's passed by the voters, council would
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have the first shot to change it for
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this term and then going forward it
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would be a pre election pre-term vote by
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council because Amanda if you want to
[22:10]
talk through the budgetary reasons for
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that. So um well the I can speak to the
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October time frame. Um, I think the
[22:20]
original language proposed said it would
[22:22]
be done, I believe, in January, but as
[22:24]
most of you are probably familiar with
[22:26]
our budget process, we do that in the
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fall. So, in order for me to have some
[22:30]
concept of what the mayor is going to
[22:31]
make to include it in the budget, I need
[22:33]
it a little earlier. Typically, the um
[22:35]
city council gets the budget at the end
[22:37]
of October, the beginning of November um
[22:39]
for the next fiscal year. So, from a
[22:42]
timing perspective, that's why we put it
[22:44]
in um October. give them as much time to
[22:47]
talk about it as possible, but enough
[22:49]
time for me to get it into the budget.
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So
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now, the only catch is that obviously we
[22:56]
wouldn't know who the next mayor would
[22:57]
be in October, but there was really no
[23:00]
way to make it perfect to align with the
[23:02]
budget process and wait for a perfect
[23:05]
time to for council to address it. Mhm.
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I just The reason I brought it up is
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because I know there was talk about
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addressing it with council in the next
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meeting.
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So, does that will that not apply? Now,
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it's it still will because if this would
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have be not adopted by the citizens or
[23:24]
by council, we would still have to still
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that rate for the next two years per for
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the existing chart.
[23:35]
Cool.
[23:37]
Everything make sense?
[23:39]
All right, we will move on to article
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six. This was another change that we
[23:43]
discussed early on. Um, you guys had
[23:45]
expressed a want to make sure that
[23:48]
council is required to provide for fire
[23:50]
and police protection. And even though
[23:52]
it in effect was always going to be that
[23:54]
way, this just really mandates it. Um,
[23:57]
if I recall, the discussion was only
[23:59]
around police and not the fire. Um, not
[24:03]
putting the shall in there for fire.
[24:06]
Correct me if I'm wrong because because
[24:09]
it's it's pretty common to have township
[24:12]
fire um and putting shall in there would
[24:16]
then require some type of contractual
[24:19]
agreement with Madison Madison or Violet
[24:23]
or something like that. So if I recall
[24:24]
it was only police. Yeah I think
[24:29]
I have in my notes that we struck from
[24:31]
time to time for fire protection but
[24:33]
kept the word may. Okay. Rather than
[24:36]
shall. So it would state council may
[24:40]
provide for fire protection by contract.
[24:43]
Correct. That is a mistake by us. We
[24:45]
will fix that. Should it be may on both?
[24:47]
Is that what we No, because shall was
[24:50]
for the police. Yeah. Always have a
[24:53]
police contract. Yeah. So yeah, for the
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police it would be they can contract or
[24:59]
they have to start their department.
[25:00]
Start their own department. Those are
[25:01]
the only two options. Yeah. Good.
[25:07]
Okay. So that that has changed in my
[25:09]
version even though it's not changed
[25:10]
live up there. Great. Thank you.
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Absolutely.
[25:15]
Um so 6.02
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legal services. Again, this was just
[25:20]
updating it because I think this
[25:21]
language was originally written at the
[25:23]
beginning of the charter. Um so it was
[25:26]
just modernizing it and simplifying it.
[25:29]
Um and then all the changes in 6.2 6.02
[25:33]
2 are reflecting that. So 6.02B because
[25:36]
the law department already
[25:38]
exists. Um that really didn't need to be
[25:42]
there anymore. That language that was
[25:44]
struck. Mhm. But we had nothing else
[25:48]
there. So you can keep on moving
[25:53]
to article 7. This was another big
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discussion that we had talked through
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regarding the structure of the planning
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and zoning commission. So this was the
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way that we had this was the best way we
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could find to write what you guys had
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wanted by adding a member of council.
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They would be the chair and then
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explaining when they would vote and when
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they wouldn't in specific
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scenarios, but if you guys wanted to
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talk through that or get a better
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explanation, we're happy to do so. I
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just have a quick uh spelling issue in
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section A. Um the red line it says the
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eighth member instead of the eighth
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member in my copy. Oh, I saw that. No,
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that's right. You are correct. That has
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been changed.
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Thank you for catching that.
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Red line or red line.
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Well, that's what's funny. I as we were
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reading through some of the articles,
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there's like a missing period every now
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and then. So, this is interesting to
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catch. Um, but any other questions about
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the planning and zoning section?
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Yeah, 7.02, it was already gone. We just
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made sure we just clarified that to make
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it easier to read. Um, and then
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renumbered these sections. Uh, the merit
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system, that was another big um
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discussion in terms of it just being
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really complicated to understand. So,
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this was and be I know you can't see all
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of it, but it would be in front of you,
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too. um is this was just an easier way
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to explain what that section was saying.
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To the best of my understanding, you
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don't have a
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four
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7.04. The four is not struck out.
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7.043. Yeah,
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it is. It's It's very hard to see. Is it
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on the floor?
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Yeah, sorry. This was I was whenever I
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was writing this one out, fixing the
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numbers, it was hard to keep track where
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I was. Yeah. Yeah, it was in way, but
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yes, it is there. Sorry. Okay. Um I was
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right there with you,
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and we will we will confirm that the
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letters and numbers add up too in the
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final review. So, we'll double we'll
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double check that.
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Um 705 again is omitted. So then that
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led to 706 becoming
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704. 707 to becoming 705. Um no changes
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there. Finance tax department we did not
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have any changes in article
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8. Article nine. So, this was just
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clarifying
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um again in eliminating ambiguity and
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just making it the maximum amount of
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signatures set by the county board of
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elections. Um so again, I would hope
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that's not too controversial, but we can
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discuss again if you guys would
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like and
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then 11.01c
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01C was the next change and this was
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just uh you guys had wanted to add some
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accountability in terms of unexcused
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absences for council members. Um so just
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cutting that down from 4 to 2 and 6 to
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4 and then I think that was it the u
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effective dates. Yeah. Effective date,
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which that's that's stock language,
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which we'll just implement at the end of
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the two. I don't think there's really
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any policy to discuss. I I do have a
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question about 9.01 the nominations. Oh,
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yeah. Um, what is the maximum set by
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Franklin County?
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That is a fantastic question. I can look
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that up real
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quick. But I think it I think it has
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percentage of
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voters. I don't I don't know what the
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role number is now, but I know it's
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always based on the amount of votes in
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the county in the previous governor's
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election, I think. So, it it's it
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fluctuates all the time. I'm not sure
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what it is right now, but we can I just
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I don't want it to be higher than 3%.
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Because that's what it was before or
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that's 3% of the electors. I'm sorry.
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That's maximum
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as well. So, and I think those
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provisions I think the state also has a
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maximum for signatures. Yeah, the state
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mandates that because they don't
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essentially want to go through and get
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have someone get like 300 uh signatures
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and then they have to go through and
[30:27]
verify all those. It just kind Yeah. I
[30:28]
just didn't know like maximum versus
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minimum like what's the minimum versus
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maximum that's set by the that's set by
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the state set by the county board of
[30:38]
election. Well, yeah, but through the
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county. Yeah, but it's all state. You
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know, I think I think I see where you're
[30:44]
going. We can clarify the language too
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of what the 1% is talking about if
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that's where a point of confusion might
[30:51]
be. Should Should they post both be does
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the county board of elections set the
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minimum and the maximum? Yeah, that's
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Yeah, we can we can we can just make it
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the minimum and maximum. Yeah, it's a
[31:02]
great idea.
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Okay.
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Yeah, especially if that ends up
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becoming out of date at some point, that
[31:16]
would be good to just add the broader
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language. Yeah.
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All right, that has been added. Um, is
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there any discussion left? Any
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questions? Anybody had any disagreements
[31:34]
you wanted to make sure was on the
[31:35]
record?
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And I read the full sentence. Disregard
[31:43]
what I was asking about that. It makes
[31:45]
sense after I read the full thing. So
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cool. Never mind.
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Yeah. When you started when you brought
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it up, I read it again and I was like,
[31:54]
"Wait, he's got a point." Then I read it
[31:56]
again.
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I was like, "Wait, that does make
[31:59]
sense." Put a sentence in there at the
[32:01]
end. Say, "Read this twice." Yeah. Yeah.
[32:04]
Or maybe three times. That might make
[32:06]
sense. Finally.
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Okay. Um, okay. So, um, I guess correct
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me if I'm wrong, but at this point, we
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can
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[Music]
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pause for audio. Um, I guess take a roll
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call vote on final
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approval of I guess the the charter as a
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whole
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is as we've gone through it with all the
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red line
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um additions, amendments, what have you.
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Um,
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again, council decides after we send it
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to them whether they take it whole cloth
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or piece meal it or scrap it all
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together. So, so the chair will make a
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motion to approve the updated uh redline
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chart. So, moved. Motion made by chair,
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second by Mr. Connor. Roll call. Mr.
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Milligan. Yes. Mr. Connor. Yes. Mr.
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Hust. Yes, Mr. Carer.
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Yes, Mr. Lan. Yes, Mr. Mcraer. Yes,
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[Music]
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he's got something.
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Mr. Scanland. Yes. Mr. Steelman. Yes,
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Mr. Vile. Yes, Mr. Young. Yes.
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All right. And uh lastly, personally, I
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just want to thank every Yeah, go ahead.
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We also have one more motion, sorry,
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that you need to make, too. It would
[33:52]
just be a motion to allow the chair,
[33:54]
Chuck, to work with the law department
[33:55]
to finalize the final report that will
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be sent to council for them to consider
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it, too. Okay. And you can do that by
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voice, I think.
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Um, all in favor?
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I thank you.
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Um, Mr. Milikin, um, the charter review
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commission five years ago when they met
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the the chair, um, actually came to the
[34:19]
council meeting to kind of present. Um,
[34:21]
I was going to see if that's something
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you were interested in doing or if you
[34:25]
would rather staff do it. Just um, all
[34:28]
of you planned on being there. I think,
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um, I know Stacy had interest in being
[34:33]
there. I think the more people the
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marrier. Um, by all means, everybody
[34:38]
show up and support all.
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I'll hold your hand. I don't have a
[34:43]
timeline on
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that. The next meeting when that meeting
[34:50]
doing the math, we have to have it done
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by
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I think it's July. July because so city
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council takes the second meeting in July
[35:00]
off every year as their recess in order
[35:02]
to get this to um the board of elections
[35:05]
in time. has to be done before August,
[35:08]
which would push us back to their first
[35:09]
meeting in July, which
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I it's July 7th. Seventh. Seventh. Does
[35:15]
that sound right? Yeah. Um, so if they
[35:17]
want to do three reads on it,
[35:20]
first meeting in June would be the
[35:21]
latest we could do it. So,
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um, my thought is we'll let Mr. Milikin
[35:28]
work with the law department, get this
[35:29]
all squared away, and then we'll send
[35:31]
everyone an email with that meeting
[35:33]
date. Um, just so you're aware of uh if
[35:36]
you are able to attend and would like
[35:37]
to, you'll know when it's going to
[35:38]
happen. So,
[35:42]
yes, I will send me a copy of it,
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please.
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Juicy.
[35:52]
Uh, well, depending on which meeting it
[35:55]
is, it might be.
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All right. Um so again I just wanted to
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thank everybody for uh their
[36:02]
participation. Everybody's uh thoughts
[36:05]
and opinions were uh highly valued. I
[36:08]
mean it's a fun process for me
[36:11]
personally and hopefully it was for you
[36:12]
and um I encourage everybody to stay
[36:16]
involved in our local government and
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that's what makes us great is we got so
[36:20]
many good people here.
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So it's been nice working with you all.
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That uh chair will make a motion to
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adjourn. Need a second. Second.
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Mr. Steelmith. Motion made by the chair.
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Second by Mr. Sealsmith. Roll call. Mr.
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Milikin? Yes. Mr. Steelmith? Yes. Mr.
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Vile? Yes. Mr. Young? Yes. Mr. Connor?
[36:42]
Yes. Mr. H? Yes. Mr. Ker? Yes. Mr. Lan?
[36:46]
Yes. Mr. Mcer? Yes. Mr. Scan?
[36:52]
Yes. Well done. Thank you all very much
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for your