[0:03] And we are live. All right, we'd like to call the order the regular hybrid meeting for the time again, conservation commission today is Tuesday, September 1, 20, 26, the time is 706. We have a quorum. We have all commissioners with the exception of bill, stature and Flynn booster on present.

[0:23] No, I thought it was both rights.

[0:29] It was pretty hard.

[0:31] This is pretty hard.

[0:35] I was thinking the last one.

[0:37] I was thinking the last one.

[0:39] I was thinking the last one.

[0:40] Have flux in sand.

[0:44] It's the number of people here through me on.

[0:47] All right.

[0:47] Okay, so it just feels better, not in attendance.

[0:53] So we can go to the public comment, and it looked like there was no people on the line.

[0:57] Lisa is the only one online.

[0:59] So then no one in here, which means we can go to the new business, which there is none.

[1:06] Old business lights out.

[1:09] All right.

[1:09] So.

[1:10] Yeah, it's weird.

[1:11] Could you make that stop?

[1:14] I mean, I think this is just a signal.

[1:20] It was a cruddy.

[1:28] All right, so.

[1:31] Okay, so that was.

[1:34] This annuals had been in the meeting back at the Ford,

[1:36] but it didn't get switched over to this month.

[1:39] So I just asked them to put it up there in case.

[1:42] People didn't see the email I had sent her.

[1:44] if

[1:48] anybody needs. So that keeps cutting out.

[1:53] So anyways,

[1:55] the area that I got together between meetings and went over everything. And so after we did,

[2:06] it certainly seems like we needed to submit an ordinance after all.

[2:13] So we then contacted Neil and the Fannial, but Neil was out of town and didn't have a chance to do a meeting.

[2:23] And so I ended up doing research over the weekend.

[2:27] Doesn't require an ordinance when you do a zoning regulation and deal confirmed that, but when I was going over everything again today.

[2:36] Okay, there are things that are in the ordinance part that are not in the regulations of

[2:44] them.

[2:45] Remembering correctly and Gary's not in yes.

[2:47] So that we do need to actually submit the ordinance as well, which is good.

[2:51] So we were all on the right page as far as that.

[2:55] And then I don't know if people got a chance to look at Gary's clean copy.

[3:02] was stuff that you know we had discussed from Niels at the previous meeting I just wanted to let

[3:08] you know it says the cameras not working Lisa can you still hear us? I can yep. So it appears

[3:17] to record it has turned off. Yeah you're recording I can hear you I can see the what you're sharing on

[3:25] on the screen, so I think you're good.

[3:28] The camera should hopefully go to the camera now.

[3:31] Yeah, because I think the signal cut out

[3:34] for a millisecond, I think that was the issue.

[3:39] So please proceed.

[3:41] So,

[3:44] which means then, if,

[3:48] you know,

[3:49] because originally when I was looking at it,

[3:50] I was thinking we were gonna have to change

[3:51] the submission form that Nathaniel had prepared because it was a ordinance and we weren't putting

[3:57] an ordinance, but after doing all the research and looking at that again today, we do need

[4:03] to submit this as a ordinance, because I was looking at some of the previous zoning regulations

[4:11] that had passed, and I didn't see a corresponding ordinance for any of them, so that's why I did

[4:18] it's more digging, but in this instance, we do need it.

[4:22] Yeah, because it basically what comes down

[4:24] is if you want the board to select men

[4:27] to adopt something specifically,

[4:30] a specific set of rules that would be an ordinance.

[4:32] Yeah, and what we've done over the past is

[4:34] the specific language, which I think at the last meeting

[4:38] got the final ratification.

[4:43] And then there's the form that put on the screen

[4:47] I just want to see if everyone likes the language. I know that the gates need to be changed.

[4:53] All like the data submission. Yeah, but just want to make sure that that is.

[4:57] Is the board meeting still the ninth? No, well, I don't know. It might be too late now to get

[5:02] on the the one for the Boris Leckman meeting on the ninth. It might be. So push it back.

[5:09] Unfortunately, because of Neil being out of town and needing a clarification,

[5:17] We didn't get it before yesterday, a response from Neil.

[5:22] Yeah, I apologize for that.

[5:24] It was, yeah, deal was out of town.

[5:26] And while Neil was out of town and then from then through,

[5:30] you know, and still go beyond going, there's something just

[5:32] pull it up.

[5:33] That has just been taken away too much of our time.

[5:36] Blog story short.

[5:40] So yeah, so that's why we didn't have it ready.

[5:45] But, you know, I think everything looking it over before the meeting today, I think every document that we need to submit to them, which are the two, the one that the annual prepared and the proposed lighting ordinance are ready to go.

[6:02] Unless someone has any comments or questions, we can then move forward.

[6:08] I don't care. It will be happy to be over with you too.

[6:14] So, yeah, so when is the next board of selectman meeting after the night?

[6:20] Um, may perhaps I know that sometimes seasonally they can't change all, but it's typically every two weeks.

[6:29] Two weeks, but sometimes it changes. So it might be the 23rd. It might get pushed up.

[6:34] Well, October, I have the apps for so I know last time we had left that, you know, if there was no

[6:41] glaring changes, which there aren't Gary and I just, you know, went over and cleaned a few things up.

[6:48] We were going to submit it so just give everybody a chance if they want to weigh in on it,

[6:53] the latest version before we say okay, we're going to submit it for the one that's on or around

[6:59] on the 23rd, so I just want to give you a great chance.

[7:03] Yeah, the day that we talked, I went back

[7:07] through Neil's comments, and I put my own replies

[7:12] in behind the underneath them.

[7:14] So if there's any need for justification of what we did,

[7:19] a lot of things like that, I have to share that.

[7:23] Yeah, that wouldn't be bad because, you know,

[7:29] and so I'll be going with you obviously to the Board of

[7:33] Slackman, you know, wouldn't be back to having a copy of myself.

[7:36] I'm sure some others might have liked that.

[7:39] But so, shall I send that to Mr. Gerard or?

[7:43] Well, you can send it to him and CC everybody if you want,

[7:45] because it's not, we're not discussing it.

[7:47] So it's not going to be a FOIA issue.

[7:51] Because it's just sending a document like I sent those documents

[7:53] earlier today, because not everybody was potentially going to have

[7:56] them before their meeting if I didn't.

[7:59] All right. So yeah, definitely what you have the final, final, final side of my way.

[8:05] Well, then the final is what's in the pack. Okay. He's talking about an annotated one for notes for us.

[8:11] Yeah. So people understand what the thought process. Yeah.

[8:14] Yeah. All right. So Nathaniel, then you can get that submitted for the one on or around the 23rd.

[8:24] Okay, and then we don't need a motion to do that.

[8:29] Yeah, that's why I said we said last time that it was ready to go.

[8:33] The only, the delay was we just again wanted to make sure for clarification, we were doing

[8:40] it right because, you know, nothing worse than going before a board and, you know, not having

[8:46] everything you need to and looking, you know, I'm professional when you want to pass something.

[8:52] So, all right. So then we can move on to the native plants because the work on the lights out and getting ready for the COCD presentation that did not get much of a chance to work on it.

[9:07] So there hasn't been again, I apologize, there hasn't been much movement on it.

[9:11] But now that both of those are in the way, I'll be able to sit down, work on it, and I'll be sitting with Karen and Sarah most likely going over some stuff information that we're trying to together and get together to shore up any week points we might have on it.

[9:31] If it looks for all the things that everybody's sharing, feel free.

[9:34] I have, but I want it.

[9:37] Actually, I haven't gone completely through margaries.

[9:40] What I want to do is create one document with both comments on them.

[9:45] So that everybody can look at them.

[9:47] You know, side by side.

[9:48] With these margaries,

[9:49] Conference, the ones that are written in.

[9:51] Yeah, that just was wondering.

[9:52] Let me just check this.

[9:55] The other guy did.

[9:59] Maybe it's two different ratings.

[10:02] I think this is hers because this is not filled boils.

[10:06] Okay, yes, let me see it.

[10:07] I can tell you the chart.

[10:08] So it looks to me like they're two different ratings on it.

[10:11] But I can think of that.

[10:14] Well, maybe it burns with a smaller rating.

[10:23] It's just going to be a lot better.

[10:26] Yes, that's very large and then there's very small.

[10:29] I think it might be that she wrote them over

[10:39] I don't know what you're talking about. I see one from Phil, but not anyone else.

[10:44] I believe that it is because I printed it out from the drug box.

[10:50] Okay, it is. Okay, it's one that says Phil, but it has both of them. I see. Yeah, it has multiple.

[10:58] Thank you.

[10:59] And if it doesn't match up when I go back and look at the one.

[11:04] I'll make sure they're put in the thing and send it to everybody, but prior to the next meeting.

[11:11] So that's where we are on native plants.

[11:13] We're still working everything.

[11:15] We don't want to go premature because I know with Phil's comments,

[11:22] you know, we're going to have a little bit harder at time trying to convince some of the things

[11:26] planning and zoning and you know just want to look at a lot more research and

[11:33] talk to a few other people if possible to get more than two opinions if he can

[11:38] so that things because part of the issue was with Phil's was you know he was

[11:44] talking about how black locust trees you know he was saying you know he he very

[11:51] strongly worded saying that the states tell him they don't have to rip him out

[11:56] Well, right, the space not saying because they're not filled stomachs. Yeah, because the larger is coming. Okay, maybe those are this is all filled stuff.

[12:06] But that the look for murder sent.

[12:11] And anyways, so because of the strong like, you know, on black locust and stuff.

[12:17] But black locust don't need to be moved because they're not invasive speech.

[12:23] Well, they're on the spacious, species list, but it doesn't kick in until 2028, I believe,

[12:29] and remember the date off the top of my head, it's not as 2027, which is towards the end of the year

[12:35] that it is. And we're not, in the big difference, like on the comments, like that, on Phillsis,

[12:44] We're not requiring anybody to take anything out because it is, you know, the state already has that statute and penalties moving forward.

[12:58] This is moving forward.

[13:01] This is something burning wishes.

[13:04] This is moving forward is opposed to be meeting anyone.

[13:11] somebody already has a plan to.

[13:13] Right.

[13:14] Right.

[13:16] Right.

[13:16] So.

[13:17] And you know it.

[13:18] I mean, someone.

[13:20] I'd have to go back and look.

[13:22] I think you might be a little plant.

[13:23] Black focus right now.

[13:24] But, you know, obviously,

[13:25] you wouldn't be recommended with it.

[13:26] Going to be having to be ripped out in a couple of years.

[13:29] But, you know, so.

[13:31] That's why.

[13:33] Fills.

[13:34] Some of his comments, you know, certainly make sense.

[13:37] but there's others that are, you know, we just want to make sure we have everything set for.

[13:45] All right. So someone else has a question or comment on native plants.

[13:53] If it's not anybody, please let me turn around, make sure.

[13:57] Well, it's just because we can't see. I have to turn around because we can't see it.

[14:00] I can't see if you're there. Well, you can.

[14:04] and persons right now.

[14:05] These are comments from them.

[14:08] Check.

[14:09] Yeah.

[14:10] Check.

[14:11] Well, no, this is.

[14:12] No, Margarie's right.

[14:13] Her is on on top of fills.

[14:15] You remember you telling me that.

[14:17] At least comments are from more than one person.

[14:20] You can tell from the right.

[14:21] But anyways, so.

[14:23] Then we can move on to.

[14:26] Other business, which is.

[14:28] Are you a meeting.

[14:35] Camera cut out like dead.

[14:40] Yeah, I can hear you, Nathaniel. Yeah, because it yeah, because the out the owl cut out, but I I'm so connected I can still hear you every one in the room. Yeah, the meeting's still going on. Yeah, that's.

[15:00] That's what matters in the day.

[15:03] Everything's still working, so. Yeah, do you have a volume control,

[15:08] Nathaniel, because the speaker is right behind. There, it came back. Would jump in. Yeah, so,

[15:17] so looking at the give everybody a chance to look at the the minutes.

[15:24] You want me up, I didn't bring my computer, I was a reference.

[15:29] You know,

[15:31] I didn't see any of the updates that I made.

[15:38] Any computer that I did?

[15:40] Any other ones you can buy instead?

[15:43] Sometimes I do.

[15:45] I looked at these in an era.

[15:47] That's a very good answer.

[15:49] There

[15:56] you are.

[15:57] Can you hear me?

[15:58] I can't hear anything.

[16:00] Can you hear us?

[16:02] Now I can, yes.

[16:04] Yeah, for some reason it's like we can hear you.

[16:08] Yeah, the owl has cut out a couple of times for some reason.

[16:11] That'll give me some of the IT director about this.

[16:13] I mean, I would just turn off the TV.

[16:15] It's like I'm playing hide and go seek.

[16:17] It's crazy. It's strobe light back there.

[16:24] Yes.

[16:25] All

[16:28] right, so if no one sees anything that needs to be updated, do we have a motion at

[16:38] this time?

[16:39] I know.

[16:40] It's the minutes as written.

[16:42] I second the motion.

[16:43] All right.

[16:44] Paul.

[16:45] Jay has a call.

[16:49] Paul in favor.

[16:51] Hi.

[16:52] All right.

[17:04] The staff report that POCD update, like I said, went a week ago Monday before the POCD

[17:13] committee gave our presentation.

[17:15] They had fair amount of questions, which was great, you know, to explain stuff and really

[17:24] other than you know the presentation they haven't as far as I know and I'll jave can you know

[17:33] give an update if there was anything discussed about the conservation commission's role after

[17:40] I left. No really I think they were appreciative of you coming and unfortunately a number of

[17:47] commissioners or committee members I should say were not present at that meeting there was a

[17:54] substantial absentee rates, but for those who were there, we were appreciative of Kevin

[18:02] and Raeble on for two hours like that. I got the development information in. I'm a

[18:07] previous meeting, and I think I got a good gist of what the isolation mission is looking

[18:14] do what they're hopeful that they can meet with other commissioners at RFP

[18:20] going out to land a consultant for the town to work with on this and I believe

[18:31] today is the date that they would have gotten responses from different consultants

[18:40] It's kind

[18:43] of the last meeting I've gotten at you, but I know you say I'll come in on the last day or so before.

[18:49] I don't know. Do you know anything about that then? How many of you received?

[18:56] Unfortunately, I don't find out.

[19:02] No, that would be something deal with Michael.

[19:09] So the next meeting.

[19:12] Is that something that Neil had also?

[19:18] Yeah.

[19:18] Okay.

[19:19] But the submissions

[19:24] were to go.

[19:25] I believe the submissions were going to the office.

[19:28] Yeah, right.

[19:31] Because he has the staff involved.

[19:35] Obviously not this staff.

[19:37] I just had I just but as I said, I've been up to my eyeballs and something different.

[19:42] It's just been taking me.

[19:43] I tensioned away from all their responsibilities.

[19:46] at least that's not to get into it,

[19:49] but that's what's going on in the past three weeks for me.

[19:52] Like, does something different?

[19:53] Is it not something that's public to be shared?

[19:57] I guess.

[19:57] Oh, it's just, it's an enforcement I am on secret lake road.

[20:01] Oh, I think all right.

[20:06] Did you have anything?

[20:07] Yeah, I just wanted, yeah,

[20:08] because there was a prior meeting where you asked me

[20:10] about the abstract really kind of where things are with that.

[20:13] Yeah, I did reach out to Phil Doyle about that.

[20:15] And so I'm not going to read the whole email. But basically what he says is that they are moving,

[20:22] they are working on moving forward. So he describes tremendous work on the project behind the

[20:28] scenes. Okay. So he said that, that they, for example, did some work to improve the fire suppression

[20:36] system because that's what the Fire Marshal wanted. They're working on getting pervading through

[20:44] the state.

[20:47] He talks about how the owner's watch developer is hoping to start site rehabilitation

[20:56] location that at some point in 2027.

[20:58] One in 2027 will actually happen.

[21:01] I hold on.

[21:03] Right.

[21:04] So, yeah,

[21:04] do we are just asking to keep it on the radar?

[21:07] Because we were going to be looking at it before.

[21:12] And I'm guessing, you know,

[21:14] we'll be looking at it again when it gets to that point.

[21:18] Yeah, because it talks up.

[21:19] For instance,

[21:19] the planning and doing approval that had it was basically just had a

[21:24] approval if you will. The previous one? Yeah. Yeah. The one from a year ago that they got. Oh,

[21:32] no. Okay. So yeah, we're going to talk about the 2021, the most recent one from a year or so ago.

[21:37] That was basically just the pattern proof of it. He will for the actual locations of the buildings,

[21:41] the parking lots. They're going to have to come back later for the facade. Basically showing what's

[21:49] actually going to look like.

[21:50] Okay.

[21:51] But is that approval mean you mean like to build on this?

[21:54] Yeah, basically just showing here's where the bill is going to go.

[21:57] Here's a way to ask if he's going to go.

[21:59] Here's where the parking space is going to go.

[22:03] They, it was just determined that at a later date that they were going to come in to say,

[22:07] okay, restore building in this location is what's actually going to look like.

[22:15] sure it would be said as line standards and cut out again.

[22:22] Okay, sorry, so I have nothing else.

[22:26] I'm sorry, can I interrupt.

[22:28] Did they were were we going to get an update on whether they were moving invasives along the riverfront.

[22:34] I thought they were doing that. Did they mention that?

[22:37] What he said was psych rehabilitation in 2027 so I don't see anything in this message

[22:48] about active invasive removal.

[22:51] Okay.

[22:52] Wasn't this mess.

[22:55] Okay.

[22:56] Sorry.

[23:00] I don't think I was.

[23:01] Okay.

[23:03] Okay.

[23:05] Okay.

[23:06] So I can move that.

[23:07] You jerk.

[23:08] Seven point nine.

[23:09] Do we have a second?

[23:10] I second.

[23:11] Yes.

[23:11] All in favor?

[23:12] Aye.

[23:14] All right.

[23:15] Thank you, everybody.

[23:17] Okay.

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