[0:01] Let's go ahead and begin then. We'll officially call this meeting of Capitol Preservation Board to order. I would just like to say it's great to be back with all of you. I haven't been in this role for a while, and I'm very excited. There's very few things we care about in this incredible Capitol complex, and it's truly a gift to the people of Utah. Thanks to everybody who has been working so hard over the years that I have not been helping to share these meetings.

[0:30] We really appreciate all of you.

[0:33] Let's go ahead and we have action item number one is we have approval of two sets of minutes,

[0:42] September 15th, 2025 minutes, and the December 15th, 2025 minutes.

[0:47] Paul, anything you'd like to share with us on those?

[0:51] I know if we just need to have the approval of the ward.

[0:54] Okay.

[0:54] Thank you.

[0:56] We have a motion.

[0:58] And forgive me, I'm a little rusty, do we do too?

[1:01] Okay, I wasn't sure if we're operating under legislative rules, or I'll just send it over to the floor.

[1:05] Okay, I'll share that with you guys for a second.

[1:09] Thank you.

[1:11] I'm pretty sure that's not how it works, but just in case that we're not that rusty.

[1:16] I've got to watch out, I have to have a few on here now.

[1:19] Yeah, we've got, see we've got some online now.

[1:22] Oh, it's just there too, as well.

[1:23] Great, thank you.

[1:24] It's Mario's on with us.

[1:26] Yeah, great to see you as well.

[1:27] Okay. We have a motion and a second for approval of both sets of minutes. Any discussion?

[1:34] Seeing none, all in favor, please say aye.

[1:36] Aye.

[1:37] And any opposed?

[1:39] All right.

[1:39] Thank you. That motion carries unanimously.

[1:42] Actually, I am number two is the Capitol Hill Lobby Association,

[1:46] a lease amendment number six.

[1:49] And we'll give some time to Assistant Attorney General Paul Thompson.

[1:53] Thank you.

[1:53] They should have been in your packets.

[1:55] Basically, as it says, amendment number six.

[1:58] We have done this six times.

[2:00] This is within non-profit, the capital association,

[2:04] use of one of the rooms here.

[2:07] All the terms are there.

[2:09] Of course, from Dr. Andrews office,

[2:11] we support this.

[2:13] Everything has been put together well.

[2:15] And we're just looking for your sustained vote for this.

[2:18] All right, any questions?

[2:22] Okay, seeing none, any pain of motion.

[2:23] Make a motion that we approved the item number two, the Capitol Hill, on the Association of Lisa and the numbers.

[2:30] Okay, thank you.

[2:31] Third second.

[2:33] Second.

[2:33] Thank you.

[2:34] All in favor, please see aye.

[2:36] Aye.

[2:37] Any opposed?

[2:38] All right.

[2:39] Great.

[2:40] Item number three, that also carries unanimously.

[2:44] This, we have an action item.

[2:46] We are in a new building.

[2:48] And a building we affectionately have been calling the North Capitol building.

[2:53] I think we can do a little better than that, and so love to start by turning some time

[2:58] over to President Adams and then to Speaker Schultz, Mr. President.

[3:02] Thank you.

[3:03] You know, I've had the honor of actually serving with multiple different governors, and at

[3:10] the opportunity of serving in the legislature with Governor Levin, and I've got to know him

[3:15] very well.

[3:16] And I've got to see his vision.

[3:18] He's always had a broad vision for what the state can do.

[3:22] he was very involved in bringing about an innovation process, and he actually stood up at the Capitol

[3:29] Preservation Board. Pretty cool, isn't it? With the legislature, and we put together this process

[3:36] of trying to preserve this Capitol complex. And there's a plan that we've all tried to follow,

[3:43] and I think we've been very well served from having the Capitol Preservation Board in place,

[3:49] and actually having this facility, this building,

[3:53] and the other buildings that have been built,

[3:54] the Senate, the House building, and the grounds.

[3:57] And the process we have of trying to protect

[3:59] the structures, I go around the country

[4:02] and talk to other legislators.

[4:04] They talk a lot about Utah and all the great things

[4:07] we're doing here, but one of the things

[4:09] that you talk about is our capital.

[4:11] And when they come visit, this is an iconic spot.

[4:14] And not a legislator from around the country,

[4:17] But you can go to the capital right now.

[4:20] We were walking.

[4:20] There's probably some visitors there.

[4:22] Many from international, maybe some local.

[4:25] Somebody taking wedding pictures.

[4:27] Somebody doing something else.

[4:29] This is the people's place, people's spot.

[4:33] I'm going to say the capital is the people's house,

[4:35] but this is actually the grounds and the ground around it.

[4:39] And I think it's very fitting that having put together

[4:42] the capital preservation board that we consider naming

[4:46] I mean, this building changed in that north name from the capital, the north building to the, uh, my club, uh, building.

[4:55] So anyway, that's at least a, I thought we're having a speaker. I know you're.

[4:58] Mr. Gray, thank you.

[4:59] You're welcome.

[4:59] Thank you, President. Thank you, Governor.

[5:01] Uh, you know, I agree with, uh, President Adams on, uh, Governor Levitt's, uh, service and time and office and dedication took a state of Utah.

[5:10] He was a three-time elected governor here in the state of Utah.

[5:15] He had the opportunity to serve under as two department cabinet secretaries for presidents

[5:23] of the United States.

[5:24] As President Adams mentioned, he was the instigator and helped to create the Capitol Preservation

[5:32] Board.

[5:32] Having the opportunity now to serve on the Capitol Preservation Board for close to probably

[5:36] five or six years now.

[5:38] I can't imagine how this the capital grounds was ran before having the capital preservation

[5:46] board and it's it's not easy having three different branches of government come together

[5:52] honestly with multiple elected officials all across the state and to create this capital

[6:00] preservation board to take care of the building that we all cherish the people's house.

[6:05] I just, and to see how well the Capitol Preservation Board works and functions and the dedication

[6:13] to the Capitol and the Capitol fans, I think he's done a fantastic job.

[6:18] But I think one of Governor Levitt's number one legacies will be what he did for Utah's economy

[6:29] and setting and laying the foundation.

[6:31] You look at the time when Governor Lovett was first elected in the 1990s and Utah was

[6:37] struggling a little bit as far as our economy goes.

[6:41] So many of our kids were having to move out of state and move to other states around

[6:48] the nation to find good paying jobs.

[6:51] Governor Lovett read, bringing the Olympics or served during the Olympics helped clean

[6:59] up the 2002 scandal and also, you know, laid an incredible foundation that has led to

[7:09] the success that we get to enjoy here in the state of Utah, you know, in regards to

[7:15] you know, you just look at some of the things that we've done over the last 10 years, you

[7:20] know, we've more than doubled education funding here in the state of Utah, 114 percent increase

[7:28] in education funding, you know, we've cut income taxes at the same time over 11% here

[7:38] in the state of Utah over the last six years. You're not able to do those things without

[7:42] having a good economy, and certainly the people of Utah deserve most of the credit. For

[7:50] that, however, it's also the policies that were not just created today, but decades ago,

[7:57] And so with that, I think that's probably one of, I believe,

[8:03] Governor Loeb is big as accomplishments that not just served during the time,

[8:10] his in office, but has been fitted us for generations, so.

[8:14] Yeah, thank you.

[8:15] I just, maybe if I could add just a few thoughts and then of course we'll open it up to the committee or to the board.

[8:23] excuse me, when I was approached about a potential name for this building and as a student

[8:33] of Utah history in particular, there was one name that made me came to mind for me

[8:39] and that was Mike Lovett.

[8:42] It was interesting that that was the name that came to mind of legislative leadership as

[8:47] well.

[8:47] And you've heard the reasons why, when several years ago, I actually went back and read a book that was written during my club's first campaign.

[9:02] And it was talking about the economy of Utah, as the speaker mentioned.

[9:06] and we've been, we've just been so fortunate and so accustomed, you know, we're just named

[9:11] the number one state for economic outlook for 19 years in a row. I mean, that's kind

[9:16] of crazy and a little embarrassing for the other 49 states, but we assume that that's,

[9:24] you know, it's easy with recency biases and that's kind of just the way it's always been.

[9:29] It is not the way it's always been and that is exactly right when it went and looked

[9:32] back at what was happening in the early 90s and mid-90s to our state economy, and the

[9:37] rankings, national rankings, were always sharing the number one on top three for this, and

[9:43] it was number 27, number 23, 30, it was not what we're seeing now,

[9:53] and that changed.

[9:54] And again, there are lots of reasons to that change, but one of the biggest reasons was

[9:57] the three-term leadership of Governor Levitt.

[10:02] Just one thing I would add is his, the engineering initiative that he launched has been foundational

[10:12] to everything that we've been able to build over the past few years, especially on the

[10:17] tech side, which has been a major driver of our economy, him seeing the vision very early

[10:22] about the need for engineering as the world wide web was starting to come to fruition

[10:29] and computers were changing the future of the economy and we've been the beneficiary

[10:38] of higher ed and that initiative with the legislature to add engineering opportunities

[10:44] for our young people here and again now allowing our kids and grandkids to stay here.

[10:49] You mentioned the Olympics, there's a direct line.

[10:53] If you go back, 19 years in a row and you start to look back a little bit, that's where

[10:58] things really started to take off for our state in a positive way.

[11:02] And then, if you look at the history of our state, there are a very, very, very small group

[11:11] of people that have had the influence of the national level, been able to serve with

[11:16] of such distinction at the federal level than Governor Levitt.

[11:22] You mentioned the EPA and HHS.

[11:25] I will say just a couple days ago, I was at HHS headquarters meeting with lots of

[11:31] employees there and I can't tell you how many of them came up to me and said, hey, I

[11:35] was hired by Mike Levitt and Mike Levitt changed my life and this country is better off because

[11:40] was of what we did under Secretary Mike Levitt at the time.

[11:45] And I was kind of shocked because I was quite a while ago.

[11:48] I certainly didn't expect to hear all of that in the praise.

[11:54] And then again, on top of the Capitol Preservation Board,

[11:57] and everything that he has done, I concur and believe

[12:01] that it's a worthy recognition and one that Utahans can be proud of.

[12:06] With that, I'd love to open it up for discussion

[12:10] that anyone might have, thoughts,

[12:12] please.

[12:13] Yeah,

[12:16] I got one thing that I was just thinking about,

[12:18] that I forgot about.

[12:19] That really is another huge lasting impact.

[12:23] Governor Levitt created Western Governors University.

[12:27] And the impact that that's had on so many kids,

[12:31] including one of my own kids,

[12:32] just this last summer out of daughter,

[12:36] that went to Western Governors University

[12:39] to get her master's degree. It cost less than $6,000 to get her master's degree, and she

[12:46] got it in about a four-month time period. And of course, that was her hard work that helped

[12:55] get that. But the opportunities that Western governors created, and Governor led it to create

[13:02] that opportunity. I had the opportunity to talk with so many, especially in the education

[13:09] community, whether it's teachers or principals, that went and got their master's degree

[13:13] at Western Governors. It's truly made a huge difference for our kids, students across

[13:21] the state, hundreds of thousands of people, thank you.

[13:23] What I think of that, Superintendent Reed knew we started up an idea of growing your own

[13:29] letting teachers A to get credit for their time spent in the classroom and then allow the

[13:39] district to be able to test right teachers and the teachers to test right in the teachers.

[13:45] And Western governors allowed them to get credit and so that growing your own program would

[13:52] not have happened without without and that's a big deal for our teachers in the state but

[13:57] what I wanted to mention was that I can think of a lot of I mean the vision of you know

[14:03] you know even we didn't spend general fund money on on highway projects before the governor

[14:10] leveraged time it was actually all highway funds and the the the the tip and all those programs

[14:18] came about during that period of time, the Centennial Highway Fund for the Olympics.

[14:25] But what I really wanted to mention was with all the things that we know about, there's

[14:33] a lot of – and Utah is the best number one state for humanitarian for giving of yourself.

[14:41] There's a lot of things that we don't know that he's done, that I think I'm aware of

[14:46] you that are not very, very public. And he's a good person, you know, he's given

[14:53] to himself things that we will never know of that he has done for the state of Utah and him.

[15:00] Senator, not only in state, but America, and I'm aware of many of those and many of those who are just philanthropic, the humanitarian things that he's done because he's such a great person. But anyway, wanted to mention that. Thank you. So open it up. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Please. Any, any comments, thoughts? Please. Yeah. So I'm repeating it. My president Adam said the opportunity served in the house, not quite as long as the president was in the United, and everything in her sense.

[15:27] I mean, it has survived so far.

[15:31] I think I'm aware that it's certainly worthy of consideration.

[15:35] My concern is with the process.

[15:38] I didn't find out the last third day that was proposed in Angadot.

[15:41] It sounds like the governor and the leadership has been

[15:44] deliberating this for a while.

[15:46] And I guess we don't do this very often.

[15:48] This is the first time for building.

[15:52] So it's kind of a new process.

[15:54] The way I would have preferred that it happened is somebody would have come forward and said we didn't need any name for the North building.

[16:01] Let's have a meeting and let's consider some names, have some deliberation, and then say a lot of name.

[16:07] What's happened now is, sent out a notice in the agenda that this is what we're going.

[16:11] I mean, this is an action item and I only learned about this last Thursday.

[16:16] Not being a good process. It doesn't invite much input.

[16:20] You know we're coming to say this is what we're going to do a little what about the board or I'm a member of the board

[16:24] I didn't know about it. We should have had a part of discussion in my opinion

[16:28] And everything you say I agree with about governor

[16:30] It's not that at all it's a process and the process is important to me. Yeah, thank you representative

[16:35] And that's that's very fair and

[16:38] And I appreciate that feedback again. I will apologize just coming in to my first meeting

[16:44] I didn't realize that you you were just made aware of that last week and so

[16:49] So, again, let me apologize that that didn't have to apologize.

[16:53] This is our first time.

[16:55] This gentleman, we're deliberative.

[16:57] Sure.

[16:59] We're working on this.

[17:00] We have meetings.

[17:01] And not this needs to take multiple meetings, but just with the eyes.

[17:05] Yeah.

[17:05] That's very fair.

[17:06] And I assumed everybody had been made aware of this well ahead of time

[17:09] and had an opportunity to have those discussions.

[17:12] So thank you for that feedback.

[17:15] Anyone else?

[17:16] Uh, uh, Marlow, is that you say you're on a very, very tiny screen and I see a hand popping up and I apparently need to, uh, get my eyes checked, so I think, I think that you,

[17:27] yeah, hold on. Let us turn you up a little bit.

[17:32] Okay, go ahead.

[17:35] Yes. Yeah, we can hear you now.

[18:00] standards for naming buildings on Castleville.

[18:06] The gas and the five Utah taxpayers

[18:08] are intended to have to serve the state for generations.

[18:12] And many governments and institutions

[18:13] appoint naming major public gasses

[18:16] after living into the vigils,

[18:18] because it allows history rather than current.

[18:24] Waiting until an individual's deceased

[18:26] helps avoid the appearance of political favoritism

[18:29] or decisions influenced by contemporary relationships

[18:31] and circumstances, naming policies

[18:34] and waiting periods exist in many places

[18:36] is because reputational issues and historical perspectives

[18:39] can change over time.

[18:41] Capital Hill is not just office space,

[18:43] it is one of the most historically significant public

[18:46] sites in Utah, it should be treated

[18:47] with an institutional long-term perspective.

[18:51] What should the threshold be for naming a major capital

[18:53] built in the length of service, historical impact, direct

[18:56] involvement, and constructing or preserving

[18:58] the facility, legislator approval?

[19:01] Government will have to certainly serve you

[19:03] to honorably,

[19:08] that anyone individual is one of the state has a consistent philosophy

[19:12] for naming permanent public assets.

[19:14] Once presidents is established, future boards may have difficulty determining where the

[19:20] line should be drawn.

[19:21] A formal naming policy could help ensure consistency, neutrality, and long-term institutional credibility

[19:28] principles should come before precedent.

[19:30] And I mean, this isn't should reflect broad historical consensus, not simply current support

[19:38] along institutionally to the people of Utah, not to anyone in the administration or office

[19:42] holder.

[19:43] If we move forward without standards, future forward to inherit the consequences of where this line

[19:48] was drawn.

[19:50] Thank you.

[19:51] Thank you.

[19:51] Thank you for that feedback.

[19:53] Thank you.

[19:54] Any other comments?

[19:55] Please refer to your legal program.

[19:56] I don't remember for sure. Did we meet in the house building after a woman's

[20:01] bigger late-state block heart?

[20:05] I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

[20:09] I just like to change that a bell. Not the board. Not the board. So I think the point is

[20:18] this is new for the board. Yeah. We have no procedure. We have no profile. We just do. Yeah.

[20:24] Thank you.

[20:27] That's

[20:30] No, any other input?

[20:34] I'm ready to make a motion.

[20:36] I would make a motion that the capital preservation board

[20:39] wrote and renamed this building.

[20:43] I suppose the bike level building is that?

[20:47] The bike level.

[20:47] My whole level of building is made by a motion.

[20:52] Is there a second?

[20:54] I'm out for a second.

[20:55] OK, we have a motion in a second.

[20:56] Can I propose an amendment and that would be that we in conjunction with this naming

[21:05] that we also work on a policy as discussed, that we as a board work together to, again,

[21:17] if it's, I understand the concerns about historical and I think those are all very valid and

[21:25] important concerns. I hope, you know, 25 years is a long time, and I think in this case,

[21:33] the concerns that have been brought up are easily avoided, but I do agree with the argument

[21:39] that that could be a problem moving forward. And so I'm very interested in working on

[21:49] on a policy that is consistent and can be applied to the future that would also, again,

[21:57] encompass what we're trying to do today.

[22:00] Well, so we have a new motion, a new amended motion, still a second.

[22:08] All in favor, please say aye.

[22:11] Any opposed?

[22:12] Aye.

[22:16] Okay.

[22:18] I didn't hear any opposed, so I will note that the motion carries unanimously, and thank you, thank you to everyone for your feedback.

[22:27] Let's move on to item number four. Action item number four is a Pioneer Trail Foundation, and Ryan Beck is here with us. We'll turn some time over to Ryan.

[22:46] Well,

[22:49] thank you so much, I know it's a tight agenda, so I won't take too much time,

[22:52] but we just want to run through sort of an update.

[22:56] And before we do that, I trust

[23:02] Alex a lot, but he's not going to lie to me.

[23:07] You know, my name is Ryan Beck on the volunteer on this project, and I'll just say the origin

[23:16] story of this project, a lot of it grew out of this idea that one of the risks for states

[23:20] that have been successful economically is we've all done that, we sort of do touch with

[23:23] what made the place so special.

[23:26] And there's a lot of examples of that on the country, places like Portland and Austin and San

[23:30] Francisco, and the hope was to sort of follow the pattern of great cities like Boston,

[23:34] that built the heritage-walking trail that really captured the solve of the place in this

[23:39] room.

[23:40] And then in so doing, we could preserve a lot of the sort of ethos and values that are

[23:44] set up on the null to the economic success of the state.

[23:48] The second thing I'll say while that's coming up is, you know, we have, field operations is

[23:53] a landscape architecture firm that was awarded firm on the planet, they did the high-line

[23:57] trail in New York famously, they did the project head of the Olympics in London, they just

[24:04] They've done projects all around the world, and some of the type of project that they've

[24:08] led to design on this, they'll be leading the implementation on this.

[24:11] And we had them out to meet with state and city stakeholders last, you know, two weeks ago.

[24:17] And then with UW, Dana called in from a hospital bed, which was amazing.

[24:22] And the folks at the SCM and David.

[24:25] And at the end of those meetings, I mentioned this to Chief Earpont.

[24:28] We sort of had to pick their draws up off the floor.

[24:31] And they said, we've never had meetings with state government that sounded like this.

[24:36] You know, incredibly helpful, trying to find ways to make it happen on a timeline that

[24:40] could work for the Temple Square of the House.

[24:42] They were truly blown away, and it's fun to see the states who they're at, so we're really

[24:46] proud of them.

[24:48] So always, you're just a few slides here that will sort of give you a sense for, you know,

[24:55] what's evolved, and you just throw them.

[24:57] So one change since, you know, we had initially sort of presented the idea of leadership in the governor as we've added a leg to the map.

[25:05] So the trail actually now starts on the southwest corner of Temple Square.

[25:09] And it goes along South Temple and then up on the state street into this loop that, you know, comes down as Canyon Road.

[25:16] And that felt appropriate, you know with presenting that Bishop Would like to be able to discharge

[25:20] but we have another meeting with them, and Temple Square is obviously a deeply important historic

[25:25] asset having it directly on the tre

[25:28] But when, and it also allows us to capture, you know, all of the traffic that's going to

[25:31] be going to the new SDG entertainment district, so sort of a jumping off point from that district

[25:35] into cultural courtesy.

[25:37] So that's sort of the loop, but you know, the areas of significance, we're not through phase

[25:42] one, but basically phase one will go from this corner to the museum in Utah as sort of the

[25:47] terminus of phase one, and then phase two will go down in the neighborhood, and not

[25:50] can you go.

[25:52] So, see, in a sense, the sort of saturated portion is what's being affected in phase one.

[25:59] So, this sort of neat north-state record order of a garden along that processional approach,

[26:04] council hall, which I'll talk about at the end, this market closet, I like more on the

[26:08] church, and this lookout looks sort of back towards the mountains.

[26:13] That's the sort of phase one portion, and phase two, we'll complete that in terms of what's

[26:23] This is still a sort of work in process, but I think one really exciting thing about the project is we've been able to lean on, you know, generous philanthropists in the state in the city to try to extend the budget.

[26:31] And so OC Tangerine is generously offered to provide plucking that will go in ground in front of the waypoints to sort of describe the points of interest.

[26:39] We've talked to Rio Tinto and Kenekop about potentially providing what we call the copper line. We have brass line that's sort of in set in the sidewalk that allow people to follow it along.

[26:48] So if you know the Freedom Trail in Boston, they've got the Brickline famously.

[26:51] This is one proposal to have something that feels very Utah, sort of the industrial history

[26:57] of the state represented by that line.

[27:02] And you know, in terms of timing, we have a meeting with President Bishop Brick hopefully

[27:05] in the next few weeks.

[27:06] I think the big question of whether this happens in Phase 1 or Phase 2 in terms of the inset

[27:09] will just be their appetite for construction, you know, along that court or this fall ahead

[27:14] of the example square of finance.

[27:19] So I really like to copper the brass line, I did Boston last year and it's great, but

[27:27] they do the cobblestone or the bricks, the bricks, and it decays falls apart and you try

[27:34] to run a stroller or something around the wheel chair, it's very, very bumpy, it's uncomfortable

[27:40] and I went down to Salem to visit the witches down there after I was at Boston and they just

[27:46] It's had a pain, it's strike, which works okay, but I hope we can do something like this, and not the brick that's just poured down, and it's not good.

[27:56] Yeah, I agree.

[27:57] And the nature of it is quite thin, so the imagined nature is it's even two to three inches, so it doesn't really, there's no impact in terms of the footprint that way.

[28:07] I know I would see final plant and I don't know this for the new salt palace or that

[28:15] area but it seems to me that that's a real gathering spot in that area so you're building

[28:22] that downtown.

[28:23] I know you're in that corner but hopefully there's a little bit of development might capture

[28:28] those.

[28:29] That traffic that comes to the conventions and it's you're so close now you're with

[28:34] That's 200 feet.

[28:36] Hopefully you're looking at maybe extending that over

[28:39] or doing something there that could be iconic,

[28:41] that could actually be at the, what I'd say, a trailhead,

[28:45] or the beginning of the, which were those visitors.

[28:50] Yeah, we're very open to that.

[28:52] And we actually have a meeting in three hours

[28:53] with a group called Pentagram, which

[28:55] is one of the best branding firms in the world.

[28:58] And they're gonna help us with wayfinding and signage.

[29:00] And a big part of that ask is how do we make sure

[29:02] to be captured the traffic that's already downtown.

[29:05] So I think whether we extend the copper line

[29:06] or whether we put signage there that directs them

[29:08] to it, I think that's great feedback.

[29:09] The new solve palace would be a real, I think,

[29:11] at least a spot where you'd want to start

[29:16] correcting people from, too.

[29:17] Agreed.

[29:18] Agreed, we'll make sure that happens.

[29:22] This can go quickly, but it's sort of a fun,

[29:24] this is really fun for me as we sat

[29:25] through meetings with field operations,

[29:27] just the level of sophistication.

[29:28] This is sort of a first-guarding portion

[29:30] that we're doing.

[29:31] And, you know, each block of this and each block of the trailer has really unique characteristics, sunlight, sort of how it interacts with the road escape.

[29:39] And so they do this sort of very cool solar analysis where they get every square foot has a shape profile.

[29:46] And everything they plant, it's all native perennials, sort of native to the state.

[29:50] And every square foot is planted to be a zero failure plant.

[29:53] And that's all derivative of the trees and how it shades the road and the buildings and how they interact and so

[30:00] Public investigation that I didn't expect when we started this, so as you do in a sense for how they got through that. In terms of the palette, you know, they took a lot of inspiration from the different sort of parts of Utah. It was a burden valley shade in our canyons. You have sort of the iconic enzyme peak sunshade. You've got the olive basin and sort of the alpine splendor shade. And so what they do with these gardens, these gardens are intended to be interesting all year round. And so they time the blooms so that there's always something new popping.

[30:27] And so this huge use sense to the temple square open house.

[30:30] The plantings will go in this September, October.

[30:33] Temple square open house is here.

[30:34] And then you have this just amazing sort of color plan

[30:38] where the entirety of that open house

[30:40] you'll have some different point of interest

[30:42] along the trail to survive.

[30:45] This is huge use sense for these are early renderings

[30:48] that some of the designs have in my looking summer,

[30:51] how do I look in fall.

[30:54] The famous roundabout was fun when you get landscape,

[30:58] which is a huge piece excited about.

[31:01] And the idea here is that these are also really

[31:04] under which we're working with.

[31:05] You'd have to be sure that it matches clearance requirements.

[31:08] But the idea is to plant this in sort of a rock garden type.

[31:14] And then I'll head here to our last slide.

[31:16] So, you know, if the south end of the capital complex council hall

[31:18] about parking lot, if you want to search,

[31:19] you're really a core part of phase one.

[31:22] And so, you know, if you're excited about grades,

[31:24] we found out in the last few weeks on council hall

[31:27] But the activation plan there, for those who don't know, that main floor of council hall will be a restaurant.

[31:33] So Milo, who runs Arlo in the Marmalade, won James Beard Awarded Chef, one of the best chefs.

[31:38] And the state has agreed to do a second restaurant there.

[31:44] And the second for Utah State is going to do a debate call.

[31:49] And they've also agreed to take on a bookstore that has currently planned to be dedicated to the foundational text on free expression.

[31:55] and democracy and Western liberalism, so sort of a relationship between that bookstore

[32:01] and the debate all space to sort of plant the flag from visitors that this is a place

[32:05] that does it differently, where we engage with each other in good faith.

[32:12] To what extent is the landscaping of the trailer to the trail?

[32:16] Sorry?

[32:17] Well, the flowers and everything that we show in, where will that take place?

[32:20] Yes, we'll think about it up in our state street and then we'll surround if you go to the council hall and

[32:28] It'll hit around about and then it will come over in front of council hall of forward by the moral church

[32:32] So that entire sort of new printing of garden more

[32:35] Humble maintain that so the city has agreed to maintain everything in the city right of white

[32:39] So everything on the road and then the expectation is that the capital would maintain the step around council hall this small

[32:46] And then

[32:51] you know, we've partnered with was in the question

[32:53] Sorry.

[32:54] Grippy thing then.

[32:56] The last thing I'll say is, you know, the idea is to create sort of a market plaza on

[33:01] weekends.

[33:02] So we'll maintain all the parking styles there.

[33:04] The plants and trees and have a market plaza and that parking lot between the two.

[33:07] And we found an amazing operator.

[33:08] She's met with Dana and some folks on the team to do a summer farmer's market.

[33:14] So that'll be active next summer for the Temple of the House.

[33:17] And then a five-week weekend only Christmas market that will be active this year.

[33:23] And you know sort of imagining that activated quarter with the restaurant, the Christmas market,

[33:28] we're going to have high school choir singing in like a moral church to activate that.

[33:31] It's going to be a really sort of high impact. We're really excited about that.

[33:34] Awesome. Thank you, Representative David Probe.

[33:37] Thank you. I've brought this up before and have not have yet to have any kind of answer.

[33:42] To what extent have you engaged anybody in the community in this?

[33:45] There are several community councils in the district.

[33:48] The area is higher gave this project less than my list.

[33:50] All of them.

[33:51] Yeah, so I've not received any feedback from them.

[33:55] So I've been to the Capitol Hill neighborhood council four times.

[33:58] I was actually on that board.

[33:59] I'm presented two weeks ago, we're presenting again in two weeks.

[34:02] I've been to the out of greater avenues council twice.

[34:05] I've been to the memory growth foundation twice.

[34:09] And I've knocked every door.

[34:10] And their feedback has been invited, how?

[34:13] in those meetings. So everyone in those councils, that's my cell phone number, and we've done

[34:19] local meetings with each of the councils. So I think on community engagement, there's

[34:23] places this project could be not, that's not. We've done a lot of that.

[34:26] Okay, I just think a lot of coming back to my canyons, I personally not every door that

[34:34] is adjacent to this trail. So if there are folks running out, I'd love to help me with them.

[34:40] They may not be engaged with their community councils, but if they are engaged with the

[34:44] community councils, I assure you they have been there so many times. That was the very

[34:51] first place they went.

[34:58] Well, they're not going to every meeting, but I don't think that's how it works.

[35:03] Thanks.

[35:03] So, please.

[35:04] Yeah.

[35:05] Thanks, Governor.

[35:06] I'm just trying to thank you.

[35:08] Who approves a more processor we're going through to approve the monuments and the sites

[35:14] along the way?

[35:15] Yeah.

[35:16] It's a great question.

[35:16] So the way we view that is that's not the foundation has no authority on that.

[35:20] And so it would be up to the landholders.

[35:22] So the city owns land, city Creek Park.

[35:25] And the peak is part of this project.

[35:26] I think we've proposed, you know, potential art pieces there.

[35:29] And the city would go through their process.

[35:30] If anything was on the capital grounds, my expectation would be that Dana would help us understand what the process would need to be.

[35:36] I think there probably ought to be a little more collaboration where the states paying for the whole thing,

[35:45] and well not all, but I think there's some for what.

[35:48] We think we'll have dollar for dollar matching.

[35:50] I think to say, okay city can do this, state can do this on the capital conservation grounds.

[36:00] I think there ought to be a group organized to come together to approve it on the whole

[36:07] trial.

[36:08] Yeah.

[36:09] Honestly.

[36:09] Very open.

[36:10] And we're saying we have a stakeholder advisory group that has a representation from all the

[36:15] relevant state departments and city departments and we're open to adding anyone else to that

[36:20] if that was a body that you found sort of useful to that end.

[36:23] But I totally agree.

[36:24] I think some continuity there is smart.

[36:26] Yeah, especially when we're talking about just a continuity or a vision or a goal, or to

[36:35] make sure that we know where we're headed and what we're trying to accomplish, and then

[36:40] it's a large podge, but it's kind of tight, green, and a way to tie it all together.

[36:47] So I think there does need to be some type of oversight, and obviously as far as property

[36:55] right, you're going to have to go through whatever that process would be, or take something

[36:59] that I think adhesion for what we're doing, it's to be coordinated as far as the place

[37:05] in those monuments. Yeah, for you. Thank you. So we want to keep moving forward on this

[37:15] for sure, but somehow we need to create a process, I think, for the monument pieces.

[37:24] The monument pieces and the sites were there.

[37:26] And also the monument piece is second phase.

[37:29] We're really not finding anything out of temple.

[37:30] So we've got about a year and a half before it's even contemplated that the monument might end up.

[37:34] But we're totally open to that.

[37:37] The recommendation is on that last step.

[37:39] So we can work together as a group to put that together in the meantime.

[37:44] So action item for now is approval for phase one.

[37:48] Is that correct?

[37:49] I mean, we just have to gain a plea.

[37:51] Is there a vote?

[37:52] I don't know.

[37:54] The one thing I do need to know is the conversation

[37:57] about the voters being too close to the perimeter.

[38:01] Correct.

[38:02] Correct.

[38:02] For Highway Patrol's sake, and for ours,

[38:04] we don't want anything that's going to provide

[38:06] to the concerns out to them.

[38:08] Yeah, and that's been shared with the design.

[38:09] Wonderful.

[38:10] So you don't know how to make the motion?

[38:12] Thank you.

[38:12] I approve it.

[38:13] But it's probably a motion as well.

[38:14] Is that a quick question?

[38:15] Yes, please.

[38:16] Is that Senator Plum?

[38:18] Yeah, sorry to not be there.

[38:20] No, we're glad you're here, Senator Plunk, please go ahead.

[38:22] I was just curious, but the piece that I've picked up on since the first discussions is

[38:27] the Council Hall piece and the potential eviction of the tourism folks, et cetera.

[38:32] And I heard us talk a little bit about that, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't

[38:35] going to potentially be voting to be OK with that, because I still am uncomfortable with that.

[38:40] Well, we're moving, then.

[38:42] We've got that all approved.

[38:43] We've got a space for them, and they're excited about it.

[38:46] they're ready to go. So we've been working through that just on the executive

[38:51] branch side. We've got room for them downtown with the they'll be in the in the

[38:59] go-ed space with which is where they should be with their team because they're

[39:04] part of go-ed and so they're going to be there on the same floor. We've got them

[39:08] all together and squared away. So I don't know if that results your concerns. I don't

[39:13] is off their concerns.

[39:16] And that's not a board decision anyway.

[39:19] No, no, I just thought about what I'm going to do is something you want to become sure.

[39:22] Sure, no, no, of course. I just want to carry on.

[39:26] No, no, I...if it's something you're concerned about, please express that. I'm not trying to

[39:34] tell you you shouldn't be concerned about it or that you can't be concerned about it. I just

[39:38] wanted it to just make it clear that that does fall to be executive branched

[39:44] and isn't part of the Capitol Preservation Board.

[39:48] That's interesting.

[39:49] Yep, thank you.

[39:51] Good comment, do we want to make sure?

[39:53] I think we've worked on it.

[39:54] Because that was a concern in something that...

[39:56] Yeah, so hopefully we've resolved it.

[39:59] If we haven't, we need to work on it, but I think we have it.

[40:02] OK, absolutely.

[40:03] Yeah, so I'll second the motion.

[40:05] Yeah, so give approval with the Capitol Preservation Board

[40:10] coming up with a committee that

[40:12] approve the the monuments that involves all stakeholders. Okay. Thank you. And and to move forward

[40:19] to phase one. Is that part of it? Okay. Yeah. Please. The board that we'll put together is not just

[40:26] capital preservation for people. I think all the stakeholders city. Yeah. Full Anthropos. I think we

[40:33] have to be because you have landowners plus funders. So that's where the I think the two interests

[40:39] like, but they're just kind of the continuity. Yes, through it. And there needs to be experts on art.

[40:46] My taste is probably my mouth. I hate it. I don't have a lot of artistic. But we need somebody who

[40:53] has historical and understands art. Right. Can you tell about people who are already involved on

[40:59] the advisory board? Yeah. So so on and forth itself, our top of the Runcha Mocha is on our board. She was

[41:05] the head curator at the earliest church for a long time. Probably one of the best art minds in the

[41:08] It's got Anderson as our board has been really involved with Jonathan Friedman on sort of the

[41:12] art walk downtown.

[41:14] And then Paul Lee, who runs the Street Army University of Utah on the board.

[41:20] And so we've got coverage, I think.

[41:22] And we're also relying heavily on sort of experts at some operations.

[41:25] They've got expertise there too.

[41:26] So it's not, I'm not the art expert at all.

[41:29] Yeah, so we'd be a combination of.

[41:32] Of cities.

[41:33] Yeah, yeah, department heads.

[41:35] And then.

[41:36] They were just trying to form what I said.

[41:39] Okay.

[41:40] Other discussion.

[41:41] We have a motion in seconds.

[41:42] We have things one way.

[41:43] Phase one.

[41:44] Yeah.

[41:45] The whole phase when we're just voting on the motion to create a committee for that.

[41:50] The approval of phase one, the part of that is to create a committee that involves all

[41:56] the stakeholders.

[41:57] And, you know, we'll have to come back as a board and approve the committee to separate those

[42:01] into two motions if there's concerns about one or the other.

[42:03] Okay.

[42:17] Okay, all right, for the discussion, seeing none, all in favor, please say aye and any opposed?

[42:24] I'd like to abstain, please.

[42:25] Okay, we have one abstention, do we noted, Senator Plum abstains, and the motion carries unanimously.

[42:32] Thank you, Brian and your team, for your volunteer hours and the great work.

[42:38] This is truly exciting for those that have been to the Freedom Trail or the Highline

[42:42] Trail or any of these, but Utah, if you get a world-class trail, is huge.

[42:46] Thanks to the legislature for your support as well.

[42:51] I actually am number five, a museum of Utah, update, Tim Glenn.

[42:59] Thanks everyone, I'll be brief and we've got a package and takes some of the free time.

[43:07] I want to provide just a brief update about the museum.

[43:17] We have two actions to first of all.

[43:20] First of all, across the hall here, there are two museum classrooms.

[43:26] currently they're called the museum multi-purpose room and the museum classroom.

[43:31] Internally, we've got a couple of eating rooms within the museum that are named after Utah historians.

[43:38] For Colorado, Dale Morgan, a couple others, Juanita Brooks, and Helen Poppenequist.

[43:44] Our educators wanted to get in on the game.

[43:46] And so they asked if they could name the classrooms after Utah educators.

[43:50] This is slightly different than the conversation you were having earlier because we're simply

[43:55] asking if we can change the name plate, the number name plate, to reflect these two individuals.

[44:03] Emma Mick Vicker was an early education advocate in the 19th century around the state of

[44:09] up.

[44:09] She advocated for kindergarten for Utahns, and then Rudy Tim's price, lived in Latin for

[44:16] for 73 years, and she was an advocate for education in her community

[44:21] mother of the year, someone who's very active in the community.

[44:27] And we'll say that this is, this falls squarely under, you missed 100% of the shots you

[44:31] don't take.

[44:32] So we know that this is not a common across the capital, but why is it raised the

[44:38] more for your consideration.

[44:40] Thank you.

[44:42] Special.

[44:43] Yes, please keep going and then we'll bring that back up.

[44:46] The second item we're requesting your consideration on is so on the north side of this building we have banners that sort of advertise or welcome folks into the museum of Utah.

[45:01] Built as part of the structure of the building with the caveat that we would come to the board with any changes or new additions to the banners on this side. So we're presenting three different options that were sort of cold down from six other options from our marketing team. This option reflects some of the artifacts you would see in the museum and then highlights the names of the different galleries.

[45:29] that will be downstairs and offers a brief introduction to what those are.

[45:35] The other two are much simpler.

[45:37] We have historic images, obviously the more immediate, these reflect the themes of each

[45:42] of the galleries, and this is essentially the same thing, just in color.

[45:46] Those are the two things we're bringing to the board for consideration.

[45:53] Tim, you have any renderings of what banners would look like on the building?

[45:59] I don't. I will use my imagination. I can do that.

[46:06] Two on each side of the ampute on the north side.

[46:10] There's little, oh, windows and new.

[46:14] We can get to it.

[46:15] No, no, it's okay. What's the size of the banners?

[46:20] Great question. I don't know the exact size, but I want to say they're between the range of 60 to 72 inches.

[46:27] They're quite large. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[46:32] So quite a sizable window. Basically, the structure,

[46:37] yes, they fill up the size of a window. Okay. Okay. Okay. Please. Yeah. Question. So are we,

[46:44] are you wanting us to prove all three or pick one? So I think all four would hang at the same time,

[46:51] right? Yes. Yeah. All four would hang at the same time, but we're asking for the direction on one of

[46:55] the design. Yeah. And in lieu of all your direction on how long it should be

[46:59] up as well. So I'll just speak because I don't have strong opinions but to me

[47:06] the second one yeah that one is but I think that fits more in line with the

[47:13] capital building being a little more simpler. The color I think adds too much but

[47:18] again I'm not. Okay I don't have strong strong opinions. He's also color blank.

[47:25] No, I'm just kidding.

[47:27] He's not on the go.

[47:27] He really did.

[47:28] I'm gonna leave it alone.

[47:29] That's a lie.

[47:30] I apologize for...

[47:32] Yeah.

[47:33] I'm gonna make sure we're...

[47:34] I know what we're asking.

[47:35] It's usually this one in the comment line, not the third set that has all the text on it.

[47:40] There's three options and we need to choose one.

[47:42] Can you go to the next one?

[47:44] The next one?

[47:45] The first one.

[47:47] I think this small text is a mistake.

[47:50] It takes up space in a way.

[47:51] I mean, it's five feet today, but it's far away from you.

[47:54] Nobody's going to be able to see the text.

[47:56] So if you're back tonight, you're going to be coming up fine.

[47:59] But this little sub-line that's not going to be me

[48:03] post just going to be technical.

[48:04] I don't think you know this.

[48:06] OK.

[48:06] You go to the second one again.

[48:09] Doesn't have the small image.

[48:11] OK.

[48:13] Represented again.

[48:14] You go, I like color.

[48:16] I don't want that at all.

[48:18] OK.

[48:19] Let's be excited about our capital.

[48:21] We got a third one.

[48:24] I like the first one better. If you want to take the lettering off, I kind of like the

[48:30] time to turn my head so I can see what the word says, but it's definitely like, it

[48:34] tells the problem. I like the emblems or the symbols onto that, or the model. I like that

[48:42] one. If you take the small lettering off, I don't either way. I like the fillers, and it's

[48:49] very clear to me.

[48:51] I have two very strong opinions that are a little bit opposed to each other.

[48:56] How many of you don't care?

[49:00] That's kind of what I mean.

[49:01] I don't have strong opinions one way or the other.

[49:03] In fact, as we were sitting here, I was sitting here thinking, what is the museum on?

[49:07] Which to the idea?

[49:08] Do you have any?

[49:09] These are the three that we like.

[49:10] I think we're partial to this one.

[49:12] Our only concern, honestly, with these ones is the reason we have the small text is that

[49:17] If you don't know what's inside this building, you don't know what these words mean.

[49:23] They are general and outfit, you know, they're, you can probably connect to them.

[49:27] That's just someone else's thing.

[49:29] I don't think this is our spirit.

[49:35] I don't think we can remove this one time, so that's not a problem at all.

[49:39] I don't have strong opinions.

[49:48] I don't have strong opinions.

[49:51] Just a comment, sorry, that it was received on slide two.

[49:55] The Mormon meteor is not in the CPA color that the others are in.

[50:00] Yeah, I'll say true, I'll say true, I'll say true.

[50:03] Yeah, and the Mormon meteor doesn't look quite as good in Sepia.

[50:07] So, and was it really there to be superimposed on?

[50:12] Oh, no, we said that.

[50:14] That's an actual picture.

[50:15] Yeah, I have a similar one that somebody sent me from their iPhone, so, okay, go back to one. There we go. Okay, we have a motion for one, remember in the text, with or without the text, you don't care about that.

[50:39] Can I make an argument that the big letters get you closer and then you see the smaller letters

[50:45] and then you go and say, I don't know, I'm just...

[50:48] If that gets your vote, I know what that is.

[50:50] You got my vote either way.

[50:51] I'm trying to get her vote for you.

[51:00] Okay, all right, we have the motion is a second.

[51:04] Second.

[51:05] Second.

[51:06] As designed, design number one, any discussion?

[51:11] Seeing that all in favor, please say.

[51:13] All right.

[51:14] And any opposed?

[51:16] We have a motion.

[51:17] Now, we probably need a motion on the naming of the rooms

[51:21] as well. Thoughts, concerns,

[51:28] feedback,

[51:32] we've done again, you see the same issue.

[51:36] Okay, I mean, if this is a museum, this is not a building, this is different.

[51:40] Okay. Okay. That's a recommendation, I'll find it out.

[51:43] Okay, thank you. Do we have a motion?

[51:46] So what?

[51:47] We have a motion, a second?

[51:49] Second.

[51:50] All in favor, please see aye.

[51:51] Aye.

[51:52] Aye.

[51:54] So, the quorum, yes, I, okay, any opposed?

[52:00] Hearing none, we have unanimous approval.

[52:02] Thank you.

[52:03] Thank you so much.

[52:04] Really quickly.

[52:05] I'll just let you know that things are on track downstairs.

[52:08] This is what it looks like.

[52:10] Some of the exhibits being installed.

[52:12] We have all of our artifacts installed in all the cases.

[52:14] We start our lighting and focus next week.

[52:17] So, we are sure that the stone stretch of our exhibit

[52:19] installation is an exciting example.

[52:21] For our team, we are three weeks away from inviting or welcoming elected officials into the

[52:28] museum space to see a finished product. So we are looking forward to seeing you there.

[52:34] This is just a few photos of us installing the Mormon meteor taking photos.

[52:39] In that spot, our team did this on Saturday morning. It was pretty incredible when you compare

[52:48] These pictures to the original installation pictures, it's remarkable how different and also the same.

[52:56] They were using two bit boards, we're just using plywood to protect the structure.

[53:01] So, I just want to share its downstairs, reach out to me.

[53:09] Finally, we have two preview events that I wanted to make.

[53:13] If you will, we'll be doing several preview events

[53:14] throughout June.

[53:17] We'll have a grand opening on June 27th.

[53:21] There's a VIP dinner that we'll be getting seats

[53:23] to capital preservation board.

[53:25] Maybe you should have already,

[53:26] or we have not sent out that invitation yet,

[53:28] but you will see invitations that will be happening

[53:31] on June 25th.

[53:33] And then, as I just mentioned,

[53:35] our June 2nd preview event for a lot of the officials,

[53:39] and if you will also receive the invitations

[53:41] but you may have actually already seen that one, so.

[53:44] Excellent.

[53:45] Well done to represent a problem.

[53:46] Good clarification, I'm sorry.

[53:48] You're good?

[53:49] The 27th is an all day thing with festivals and food trucks

[53:52] and the whole shabby, correct?

[53:55] I wonder if we can make sure I have that day, right?

[53:56] But something really exciting, we should really

[53:58] start making it.

[53:59] We will.

[54:00] And again, if you're thinking, if you're thinking timeline,

[54:06] this is kind of for us, the beginning of a week long,

[54:10] July 4th, 250, America, 250 events, so just couldn't be a better way to kick things off.

[54:18] Very excited.

[54:18] Yep.

[54:19] Well done.

[54:20] Thank you.

[54:21] Okay.

[54:21] Next up, we have a discussion around the large commemorative elements.

[54:26] An update there.

[54:27] Dana, please.

[54:29] Yes.

[54:30] So, it's so important that we're excited.

[54:31] I thought I'd come up here so you can hear me well.

[54:34] As you know, for the 100-year commemorative elements,

[54:37] last December we have all groups that presented proposals to the large

[54:43] members of the elevate committee,

[54:46] say them, say the critical actions that will miss your goal.

[54:48] Thank you, President Trump.

[54:50] And two are selected to agree with the council member.

[54:53] It was the golden spike monument and Utah's monumental monument group.

[54:58] So during further evaluation and scope of the proposed designs,

[55:02] it became clear that we had seated the spatial limits and tolerances

[55:06] of locations that were identified on the ground's commemorative grant.

[55:11] So because of this we are identifying new locations and drafting specific size parameters

[55:16] for approval and that will come to the next board meeting.

[55:20] Once these updates are approved, 12 finalists will be invited to refine their proposals

[55:24] to align with the new site requirements.

[55:27] So, while the grounds guidelines encompass how to help cover, they do not include the adjacent probability of doses for example a path forward sculpture that was put in at the travel council.

[55:43] So, the proposal that is being set up right now would be situated off of the main grounds and is unrelated to the large commemorative elements selection.

[55:55] So I just want to clarify through the board, this is a separate request to the separate ask.

[56:03] And with that, say then, if it Charlie could continue to set up and let you take over,

[56:08] because we are very sure about that, so I'm going to try to do it to you.

[56:12] And then as we move to say then, is there any action that is needed on the two, the two

[56:21] large commemorative's have been for. We're just just for everybody's information.

[56:25] We're moving forward on the study. We'll come back with recommendations. Thank

[56:28] you. Okay. So let's move on to item number seven and

[56:31] save and please the microphone is yours. Thank you.

[56:35] I'm honored to be here today. The former sculptor of the National World

[56:40] War I Memorial in Washington, DC. Just a little bit of background on this. I finished

[56:47] that project, it was a nine and a half year project, 360 global teams. We did that in

[56:54] nine and a half years on time on budget, thanks to my wife who was a project manager.

[57:02] That's it. You finish a project like this, it has so much meaning, and the biggest takeaway

[57:07] from it was, I'm in service of something way greater than myself.

[57:13] I traveled the country,

[57:14] I went to Texas, I thought, yes, pro-country, I was state proven to be interested, and no.

[57:22] Senator Mike Lee sat next to me during the end of the day, and he gave me a call one afternoon

[57:27] and he said to me, you need to go look at Utah and I got on a plane two days later.

[57:32] I went to Temple Square and I had an instant disful feeling in my gut.

[57:41] It was the most sacred place I've been in the United States.

[57:43] It reminds me of a feeling that I have, when I go to places like Royal Newly, like St. Peter's Square, it's an elevated consciousness, picked up my cell phone and I called my wife and said, this is the place, little bit I know, those words were spoken a hundred years before me.

[58:00] Well, two months later, in March of 2025, we packed up our house, put up all our earthly belongings and pods, and got in the Spinter van and drove across the country.

[58:14] I knew one person in Utah. I had a vision. I had a calling. My calling was to make something and service up my country that would unify us and bring pride to who we are in our history.

[58:28] And so I came up with this project over the last year and a half and invested heavily

[58:33] in it to make this model.

[58:35] This model has the information to go full scale and just give you a couple of proportional

[58:42] elements here.

[58:44] This is 60 feet across.

[58:45] There are 56 figures here, the figures on top are 10 and a half foot scale, the figures

[58:51] all their beliefs are 8 foot scale.

[58:54] So the idea is to do something that is kinetic and elevating and becomes a destination

[59:02] monument.

[59:03] And why not you talk?

[59:05] My answer to that is because you talk is about faith, family, and country, not what

[59:10] this monument is about.

[59:13] So I came up with the idea of let's have a front-facing side and what better place, I mean,

[59:21] And I'm just flattered that Donna would, Dan would show me this, and I think this speaks

[59:27] a thousand words, because it links the house of the people with the story of we and the

[59:33] people.

[59:34] The

[59:40] front side is the inception of our country, the flag is being raised up above.

[59:46] The highest point is Lady Liberty's torch, the 636 and a half feet above the ground.

[59:53] On this side, can you all see?

[59:55] Yes.

[59:55] I don't know. I'm just starting to wait for it holds back.

[1:00:00] The man who's being pulled forward by Lady Liberty. This E.O.G. men's scene with George Washington is the only historical figure on the whole monument. Pulse is being forward, and we jump to the other side. It's a signing of the Declaration of Independence. Lady Liberty, the party of five, she's part of that, she is the inspiration. The liberty belt, and the agreement of the flag.

[1:00:28] Above, Lady Liberty shows a citizen,

[1:00:30] where it's possible through our freedoms,

[1:00:34] this figure is in the work of says he's still a subject,

[1:00:37] he has been lifted up to the level of freedom

[1:00:39] that was afforded through the courage

[1:00:43] of stepping into limbic space, the required faith.

[1:00:47] These two figures on the outside are eight feet in scale.

[1:00:53] So the side panels are the transitional moment

[1:00:56] between that in the sexual freedom in what happened in the 1860s.

[1:01:06] Emancipation and then a native fighting against a settler in front of this portal.

[1:01:13] On the other side, we have a fight for the flag which is an obvious symbol of what happened

[1:01:18] in the Civil War, 660,000 men and women died.

[1:01:25] Confederate and Union soldier fight to pull the flag at heart next to them. Those two figures

[1:01:34] after that battle of the Confederate soldier dies in the brother's arms, the Union soldier.

[1:01:40] And then we move to the other side. This is about Utah on the right. That portal is important to the west.

[1:01:51] It's a construction, the building that happened out west. And it's also a crucifix of

[1:01:57] with law out less. The chain extends the lady liberty because liberty led that freedom

[1:02:04] for men are pulling that frame up and allowing lady liberty is transcontinental railroad, the

[1:02:12] abundance of agriculture and a man with a book, the Bible, leading that movement across the

[1:02:18] country. The figures up above our percent westward movement, again, liberty leads that movement

[1:02:25] across our country, and we move over here to the final scene in the ending, which is a 20th century.

[1:02:32] We began as a negarian nation.

[1:02:38] What more one was that line of the sand, where it was went from the vine order to

[1:02:44] alienated beings, modern man, under the flood,

[1:02:48] civil liberties were represented by two black men in the movement, and then the final scene

[1:02:53] is led by this soldier. He has a blade for a lady's amputee. I picked in specifically

[1:03:01] because he was the soldier who lost his leg two weeks after he was meant to go home.

[1:03:08] He fought in the Iraq and Afghanistan war to Marine. It's a real person.

[1:03:15] And he leads that flag forward with courage. We are looked at the mistil move forward with pride.

[1:03:19] The final scene is liberty. She is no longer pulling us forward because now our liberty is on us to move forward.

[1:03:28] The child represents the future. He holds in his hand a space helmet. That is the next generation. That is what's coming.

[1:03:36] So America, liberty and the future are our family and what we hold now.

[1:03:43] The project sits within a green space and let's go to that the next one please.

[1:03:54] Stephen, can you just mention the two figures on this side?

[1:03:58] Yes, they are the builders.

[1:03:59] The two large figures are the builders.

[1:04:02] Father building a home and the mother building a family with the child in her back.

[1:04:08] Thank you.

[1:04:11] The idea is to use the same circular pattern as opposed to our system of a rim with a focal point at the middle where things expand from the central part outwards and also go in towards the focus.

[1:04:26] So this is the heart of the monument within the walls of the monument will be written words from the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

[1:04:35] There will be a symbol of an eternal flame we are going to use a light to shine on those words.

[1:04:43] It will always be lit because our freedoms must always be maintained.

[1:04:51] That's it. I believe the stewardship is obvious.

[1:04:55] I thought the best way to do is build something and show you rather than talk about it.

[1:04:58] And I'm a builder. That's why I came here.

[1:05:00] Thank you.

[1:05:01] Thank you.

[1:05:03] Okay.

[1:05:03] Any other questions?

[1:05:05] Questions?

[1:05:06] Questions in discussion, please.

[1:05:07] Sorry.

[1:05:07] I don't.

[1:05:07] This in person.

[1:05:08] First off, I love it.

[1:05:10] I think it's incredible.

[1:05:11] I think it's a perfect location for it.

[1:05:13] Or on the triangle still right now.

[1:05:15] My question goes to the previous item.

[1:05:17] And I should have asked a little more clarification.

[1:05:20] So maybe I misunderstood.

[1:05:23] But I thought the discussion was going to be around this

[1:05:28] versus the other two.

[1:05:29] it can be. It's totally up to us. Because that piece of property is not part of the main

[1:05:38] capital complex, it is not subject to the same rules for timing. So we have options. We

[1:05:47] could adopt this and have that be the choice for the major monument, or we could adopt this

[1:05:55] And do still do a major monument if the board so desired once we get the

[1:06:02] the engineering back to where those could be and and what could fit on those

[1:06:06] places. Is that fair?

[1:06:09] This is separate from from the two because this is not ground on proper.

[1:06:14] That we would leave that we would just leave this based on the capital campus.

[1:06:18] We could we have the option to do that.

[1:06:21] Yeah, yeah, that's a concern for us.

[1:06:23] There are two elements here I forgot about it.

[1:06:25] I'm building a six-foot model that's twice this scale.

[1:06:29] The figures will be this size.

[1:06:32] It'll be ready in June.

[1:06:34] And I wish to unveil that at the capital of the possible.

[1:06:39] It's a very big difference when you look at it.

[1:06:43] And that is my gift.

[1:06:47] And I hope Utah's gift to the country for the 250th.

[1:06:51] Thank you, and I, but I was really prepared that nobody was coming up with a

[1:06:56] monument to celebrate who we are. We deserve that. So I just said I'm going to do

[1:07:00] this. That's why I came here. And the other thing is if we do proceed on the full

[1:07:05] scale monument, that monument would be finished by the Olympics and we would show the

[1:07:12] world where we stand and how we lead the nation. So that's very cool. Thank you. That

[1:07:20] We, in the interest of time, I'll make a motion, we can again adjust it, but I'd make a

[1:07:25] motion that we improve this, leaving the decision, I still have Bay, or not decided whether

[1:07:32] we would go ahead with it or not, but I'm not saying we would do it, I don't wonder, we

[1:07:38] would, but we're not making that decision today, but improve this and leave that decision on

[1:07:45] home until we until we see the scope, the breadth, the funding of this or maybe some other

[1:07:50] things. Thank you. Thank you. You have a motion. Please.

[1:07:53] Sorry. No, you're good. Please.

[1:07:55] We're approving this project as to whether or not it will be the hundred year monument

[1:08:00] or not will be a decision will make another day.

[1:08:03] Correct.

[1:08:04] Leaving that to the side, you know, not that we will do a hundred. We're not going to do

[1:08:09] two. I'm not saying we're going to do two. I'm not saying this is the only one. Approved

[1:08:14] This one will make that decision as to whether we do another one or not for later.

[1:08:18] I will second that.

[1:08:19] Okay, we have a second.

[1:08:21] Yeah, please.

[1:08:22] Just back it up a little bit.

[1:08:23] Yep.

[1:08:24] So despite the women's their...

[1:08:27] They're on hold.

[1:08:29] Because it will dispense or...

[1:08:30] Because it will dispense.

[1:08:31] Yeah.

[1:08:32] Yeah.

[1:08:32] Their size was two grand for what we could have done.

[1:08:34] So we're not going to work.

[1:08:36] Well, so what we're going to do is we're doing a study of the entire complex to see where we could and could not put those types of monuments.

[1:08:44] And then, again, this being kind of an independent approval, we'll come back and decide if we want to move forward with either of those, or we could consider this the, yes, that's correct, we could, we could, even if they come back and say, hey, yeah, this will work, these would work here, here, here, we could still say, we're good, we've got, we'll do this and call it, call it good, that's totally up to the board.

[1:09:09] Okay, and will you state the motion?

[1:09:12] So the motion is to before with an approval

[1:09:15] of this project and to delay any decision

[1:09:21] on other monuments on the capital complex.

[1:09:24] Thank you, and we discuss the financing of this project.

[1:09:27] We have not, but we can, please.

[1:09:30] I can, before we approve it.

[1:09:31] That's right, yes, yes, please.

[1:09:33] Scott Anderson's been working with me

[1:09:35] two weeks in when I came,

[1:09:36] could make it today because he had a bank meeting.

[1:09:38] I've hired, I'm working with JLL, which is a very large international real estate company

[1:09:46] to raise the funds.

[1:09:48] I feel very confident about it.

[1:09:50] I've raised close to $2 million without even having land or anything.

[1:09:54] Now I come with a reputation so I can do this.

[1:09:57] The full funding broken down is around $22 million for this culture, $14 million for the casting

[1:10:05] and the architecture will be in the range of 13's over around 50 on a total over a

[1:10:12] seven-year period, and then you have the land and the plaza. Who's going to pay for it?

[1:10:18] Our country is. Large corporations.

[1:10:21] They do.

[1:10:23] Yeah, they do.

[1:10:23] I can also say I had a conversation with Scott Anderson and anticipation of this meeting

[1:10:27] this week, and it feels very confident. We've been meeting with family foundations and large

[1:10:34] corporations that are dedicated to this concept and this idea and feels very

[1:10:38] confident that we'll be able to raise the funds privately. Maybe we'll make a

[1:10:42] portion of that big of funding if you want, but that was kind of a sin. They'll get a

[1:10:48] prove that they'll find out and work on that money.

[1:10:54] We have it. Nobody's

[1:10:55] appropriated any money for it. That's right. And this one, my question is, are they

[1:10:59] expected? They're not. They're not expecting anything. They're not expecting any

[1:11:05] appropriations. Yep. And so if you want to make that part of the motion, we'll leave that

[1:11:13] up to the motion maker. I think it's assumed that we're not going to appropriate money until

[1:11:20] we appropriate money, but I think the comments have been made and noted in the minutes that there's no

[1:11:25] anticipation of money. I think we should include an emotion. If I can get that sort of man with, I'll

[1:11:34] Okay. We have a motion to approve against a subject with the understanding that the money will be raised privately.

[1:11:43] Do we have a second?

[1:11:45] Did you say that?

[1:11:46] You did second.

[1:11:47] Do you say you'll second the new motion as well?

[1:11:49] All right. Thank you.

[1:11:50] Please question.

[1:11:51] Yes, the session please.

[1:11:52] And this is not necessarily around this.

[1:11:55] I think this is actually incredible.

[1:11:57] And I get that outside of the letter of the law, we could do another hundred year.

[1:12:04] But I, and I'm fully okay having this discussion going in the future, but I don't, I, that's

[1:12:12] one of the things I really appreciate about the Capitol Preservation Board is the fact

[1:12:16] that we're preserving opportunities for future generations.

[1:12:19] And this will take one of those opportunities away.

[1:12:22] And I, you know, I think as we move forward, I would lean more towards, again, just welcome

[1:12:28] to have the conversation on the other two monuments but I hate to take those

[1:12:35] opportunities away from future generations. I would just say that's the

[1:12:38] direction I'm waiting to do but. Yeah I think I'd be hard pressed to find them.

[1:12:41] There won't be a distance I want to take the time. I wasn't ready to actually eliminate

[1:12:46] those opportunities. And I'd be hard pressed. I wholeheartedly get that we can have

[1:12:51] discussion down the road, but further discussion, please.

[1:12:57] Sorry.

[1:13:01] I just was thinking that this is of such grand scale.

[1:13:05] It's going to be in the same quadrant that we're looking at for the other two monuments.

[1:13:09] It would save CBB staff time.

[1:13:12] The FCM time would take the two components time to reconfigure it,

[1:13:17] and we still might end at the same position.

[1:13:19] I'm not saying that this plus one of the two monuments would clutter the grounds, but I do think it would add more stuff in a very short period of time and go into a place common saving this quarter of the capital for a rethought of what could go there if we move in this direction.

[1:13:38] So I would like to just handle this so we don't have people spend time and effort for the same end if possible.

[1:13:45] I hope that thought, any further discussion on this monument.

[1:13:51] I don't comment.

[1:13:52] Please make sure we involve the community.

[1:13:54] Yes.

[1:13:55] Yes.

[1:13:56] Something to that.

[1:13:58] Yes.

[1:13:58] Please.

[1:13:59] This is for the leader of people.

[1:14:01] This is for the community.

[1:14:02] I'm 100% awarded with that.

[1:14:04] I've already done outreach to schools.

[1:14:07] Students with the dozens, with competitions.

[1:14:10] This is for all of the community.

[1:14:15] We will make sure we take this to all the community councils and have this conversation.

[1:14:19] All right, all in favor, please say aye.

[1:14:21] Aye.

[1:14:22] Any opposed?

[1:14:25] Any none?

[1:14:25] The motion carries unanimously.

[1:14:27] I believe you have another motion.

[1:14:29] Can I make the motion?

[1:14:31] I think you can.

[1:14:32] Given the approval of this, to not move forward on re-analysis of the other two monies for the

[1:14:38] hundred year commemorative, and cause them indefinitely.

[1:14:41] Is there a second?

[1:14:42] Also, I conclude.

[1:14:43] Any further discussion?

[1:14:46] We seem to all be leaning that way.

[1:14:49] We'll take a vote then.

[1:14:50] All in favor, please say aye.

[1:14:51] Aye.

[1:14:53] Anyone opposed?

[1:14:55] That motion also carries unanimously.

[1:14:57] But I should still march forward with identity.

[1:15:00] I am for the ground. For future generations, I think it's a good idea just to know where, where we can host those. I, I, I know we have some, some updates. Okay. All right. Is there, I think we're done that. Emotion to adjourn. I'll make that motion. Second. Second. All of the favor please say aye. That's everybody from stand adjourned. Thank you. Thanks everyone.

[1:15:19] Thank you.

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