[0:00] Okay, we'd like to welcome everybody out to our centerfield city council meeting. Today's date is September 2nd, 2026, the time is 7 p.m. We appreciate it. It's great to see people here. So thank you for coming. We'll go ahead and do a roll call. Councilman Hanson, here, Councilman Hammond, here, Councilman Smith, here. And we have Lacey Valnet, our recorder from the city. We have Randy Hunt, our treasure from the city.

[0:30] and I see John and Christianson are maintenance public works excuse me we'll

[0:40] go ahead and have a Pledge of Allegiance I'll lead that and then we'll have an

[0:44] invocation by Councilman Smith please arise and move your block out.

[0:51] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic

[0:58] for our budget stands, my nation under God, individuals who live there,

[1:04] who see it and just as strong.

[1:12] I feel very grateful and blessed to be able to gather in this manner as we are tonight.

[1:20] Father was so grateful.

[1:21] So many who have paid you don't want sacrifice to be able to allow us to do so,

[1:28] one would pray the least, one would address the name or ever forget those

[1:34] costs which have been paid for us to be able to live free, to be able to gather

[1:40] and to be able to work together in the city. Father, we pray for our little spot from this beautiful

[1:46] village, we'll have to put citizens of center field. We pray for them, we pray for their safety,

[1:54] and pray for their good fortune.

[1:56] And pray for all that Santa Maria was busy

[1:58] and blessed and be welcomed.

[2:00] You are always there, but also be a city known to raise

[2:03] great families.

[2:06] Father, pray for these blessings,

[2:08] and the blessings of water which we receive.

[2:11] We pray that they will continue to bless us,

[2:15] with the water which we need to continue to be able to

[2:18] grow crops, to be able to

[2:21] have things in which we need to survive,

[2:23] but also a father to be able to help us to appreciate me in the most

[2:30] times. Father Ray, so blessed, live in this wonderful country. We thank you for it.

[2:36] We ask that that will tend to us as we tend to the business this day.

[2:41] Our hearts and minds can be open and much success can be accomplished. We leave this

[2:46] with the name of our work, say it with Jesus Christ, amen.

[2:52] Thank you, Councilman Smith.

[2:56] Okay, next on the agenda is the reading approval of the

[2:59] minutes. The date was August 5th, 2026. Did everybody get a

[3:02] chance to read through those?

[3:06] A little bit there. Any changes

[3:09] or corrections that we need to make to those

[3:13] minutes?

[3:16] If not, then I'll entertain a motion to accept the

[3:18] minutes for August 5th, 2026. Motion by Council and Smith. Do I have a second?

[3:26] No, second. Second by Council and having to approve the minutes for August 5th, 2026. Any further

[3:31] discussion? All those in favor? All right. Any opposed to unanimous? Three zero. Okay, we're

[3:38] going to jump right into the agenda. The first thing that we've got is a little bit of a public

[3:43] form so lacy's been great she did a little research she's actually had a

[3:48] meeting to learn this correct that we've always believed and then most things

[3:52] still is the case that if we don't have an ordinance in place then we default

[3:57] to what the state statute is when it comes to that but it turns out that in this

[4:07] particular case we actually need to adopt an ordinance in the internet or a

[4:12] resolution. Thank you. And that is, um,

[4:17] get away.

[4:21] And that is a resolution. It'll be resolution

[4:24] number 2026-7. It's a resolution establishing the fair and transparent random selection

[4:30] procedure for resolving certain ties into and filling municipal midterm vacancy. So in our

[4:38] case today where we have two vacancies that we're going to be filling, um, if there happen

[4:43] to be a tie, what's our ordinance or what procedure do we follow. And I'm thinking most

[4:51] of this is just straight from the state, correct? Yeah. So it would be a tie breaker and

[4:58] it's a coin flip. Is that what it is?

[5:01] No, at the end of the coin flip, it's a log draw. So like we have three people, we have a

[5:06] zip tie, you have to narrow it out to two people and then in those two people you still have

[5:13] Okay, thank you, yeah, so and that's why I got to the very end, so that's kind of the ordinance of the resolution to be available for anybody, a party quest to review that, but we need to adopt that.

[5:31] So, with that, do we, I'm trying to think we have a public hearing on that?

[5:38] No, we just don't have a resolution.

[5:40] Yeah, not on a resolution.

[5:41] Thank you.

[5:44] So, done enough of these back and forth.

[5:47] I got to remember which is which.

[5:50] So, did everybody get a chance to read through that?

[5:52] Is there any concerns or anything that the council has questions on?

[5:57] And

[6:01] the good news is there's three counts from here, so we shouldn't have.

[6:05] I mean, we can't have a tie.

[6:07] Number one, number two, if there one was gone, we wouldn't have a plumber be able to do anything anyway.

[6:12] So we're very grateful for them all coming.

[6:16] So I'll entertain a motion to adopt Resolution 2026-7.

[6:22] Resolution established in the fair and transparent random selection procedure for resolving certain ties

[6:28] in the feeling of menaceful mitra vases.

[6:32] Motion by Councilman Hanson, do I have a second?

[6:36] Second by Councilman Smith, any further discussions or questions from the Council?

[6:42] Seeing none, I'll put it to a motion, all those in favor.

[6:45] Aye.

[6:46] Any opposed?

[6:47] All right, 3-0 carries.

[6:50] Okay, so the next thing

[6:55] is, we're going to do

[6:59] we've got two candidates and two positions to be filled so here's what we're

[7:05] going to do is we are going to conduct an interview because here's my

[7:09] thinking on that. One, we want to get on record your thoughts and feelings and

[7:16] reasons, right, for trying to fill this vacancies and we so appreciate the fact

[7:24] that we have people who are willing to step up and do that work. So I have 12 questions

[7:31] that's three of us. We'll just rotate through or there's four of us. We'll just rotate

[7:37] through the questions and ask each question is it has a I guess what's the word I'm looking

[7:49] for. As heading if you would of what it's about and then the question will fit underneath

[7:54] the head. That makes sense. So here's what we're going to do. These guys can see, Harry, I'm going to ask you

[8:03] audit or even, you pick. This will determine if you guess right, you go first, if you get

[8:09] wrong, you go second.

[8:12] It is even, okay. Colin, you'll come, you'll be first, we're going to ask you

[8:18] questions, you'll follow up and then this, and then it will be followed like the second question,

[8:23] You'll answer first. You'll answer second and we'll just go back and forth. So not there's not one person answering it

[8:28] First and one person answering the second back and forth. So Colin if you'll come up here. Harry if you'll come up here, and then if you'll stand

[8:37] At the at the front when it's your turns

[8:43] So Colin you're up first. John. You want to start with the first one is that okay?

[8:48] Who

[8:57] is serving in the city council and why do you believe now is the right time for you sir?

[9:03] right now I feel like I have the time to retire and have got the time to devote to it and I would like to just give back to the community what they've given to me over the years.

[9:16] Thank you.

[9:17] Same question Harry.

[9:19] I'm pleased that you accept my certificate for application and that my qualifications are on that certificate.

[9:30] I feel that I can help the community out.

[9:32] I don't want to pay back the community, but then give them a name.

[9:36] I would like to know why you don't want to raise here.

[9:39] And we decided to come back to a small community.

[9:42] and I can hear it and the knowledge that I have and the things that I have will help this community and it's going to work and progressing into things that I think it's coming.

[9:56] What does it look like? I think.

[9:58] I hope that I can put it right in the mouth.

[10:03] I appreciate that. Thank you. Bart, do you want to ask the second one?

[10:07] Yeah.

[10:07] Well, what do you believe are the primary responsibilities of the City Council member?

[10:16] I think number one is to implement and act the wishes of the constituent of the people.

[10:23] We should call it up there.

[10:25] Suggestions are written.

[10:30] What do you believe are the primary responsibilities?

[10:36] responsibilities of a city council member.

[10:40] Our responsibility is to keep

[10:48] the city safe.

[10:50] Do the things that can be done around the city

[10:53] to make it a safe place.

[10:59] Our responsibility here is to have meetings

[11:03] and find out which way we need to travel

[11:05] and immigration.

[11:06] We need to go and keep the city in a safe place

[11:08] and I can't say that's better.

[11:12] Good, thank you.

[11:14] Right, third, so Harry, you're going to answer this one first, OK?

[11:19] So this is under community priorities.

[11:23] What do you believe are the most important issues or challenges

[11:26] facing our city right now?

[11:28] And what do you believe the city council should do about those issues?

[11:33] So what's the most important issues?

[11:34] And what do you think we should do about it?

[11:39] It is a little bit, but hopefully you've thought even before the sun things.

[11:44] The most important issues you have is your meetings that you're having here and that takes care of the problems that you have in the city.

[11:52] I notice they put a stoplight downtown for kids crossing or for people crossing.

[11:58] That's important, especially in that area.

[12:00] and we get a problem there a lot after that.

[12:02] You know, my job is to have him get hurt, kill him,

[12:08] sort of, I don't know how to pronounce it,

[12:09] I don't say it was a bad situation.

[12:13] And it's a good thing that that light is up to help that.

[12:19] The speed of it comes to 10.45 knots,

[12:21] however a little bit rough.

[12:22] I think that makes you come down just a little bit.

[12:25] And you have a lot of kids out there.

[12:32] I think that's good.

[12:40] Okay,

[12:45] so the question is, what do you believe are the most important issues or challenges facing our city right now and what do you feel or believe that the city council should do about it?

[12:56] I think the safety and the well-being of all of our citizens should be the top priority of the council as well as the town.

[13:05] And in this particular time right now, I think with the drought and everything, I think the water is a big problem with everybody how we only need to work together to resolve this issue because it basically affects all of us.

[13:21] So I think that's pretty top priority.

[13:24] So what would you do about it? You know one of those. I think that there again

[13:29] big thing is just to communicate with the people get out and visit and hopefully

[13:35] the people would come out and express their concerns here so you know what

[13:39] their concerns are and I think that's the thing is communication you know.

[13:45] That's pretty good. Thank you. All right, Ryan, number four. Putting the city first. How would you approach a situation where a decision that is best for the city as whole negatively affects a particular neighborhood group or individual?

[14:10] That's you because we went to for him and now we're going to go to for you apologize and then we'll go over to the city first.

[14:20] How would you approach a situation where the decision that is best for the city as a whole negatively affects the particular neighborhood group or individual?

[14:32] So does that make sense?

[14:34] So if all of a sudden something would impact one person or a neighborhood in a bad way

[14:40] that they wouldn't appreciate, but it's what needs to get done, how would you handle that?

[14:47] Well, that's the city council and their responsibility to produce verified in which way

[14:53] it would be the best way to travel, not for one individual.

[14:56] original, uh, if, uh, first...

[15:00] It should be affected in a negative way, or maybe it should be affected in every way. It definitely has to be addressed, and it has to go through the city council here to eliminate that problem. Okay. Okay. There, I think that the key, the most situations like that is communication. We have to get the sides, both sides, and reduce both sides of where we're at. What's going on?

[15:29] who's going to benefit and no matter what we do, there's always somebody that's going

[15:34] to be just off that you made this decision or that decision and so you just have to review

[15:40] all options and go from there and say counsels just have to have the backbone to come in and

[15:45] just say we're going with this decision.

[15:48] Based on these results, all right,

[15:56] John, can I put this on?

[16:00] Yes, and it's number six.

[16:02] Okay.

[16:03] How would you handle a resident who comes to you with the complaint about the city or city employee?

[16:09] What would you do if you believed your residence complaint was not accurate?

[16:14] So first of all, they come complaining?

[16:16] Yeah.

[16:17] And then two, if you just thought, I don't think that's right.

[16:21] Well, I go back to the same factor on everything.

[16:24] communication, I think, is the goal of the word right here in all aspects that we do.

[16:30] We need to get it.

[16:31] Their facts, our facts, and then our pilot.

[16:35] And I don't think we just need to take their thoughts as gospel.

[16:43] We need to review what they say in a pair of days, everybody else in that.

[16:47] So I just go back to the communication that I've been talking about.

[16:56] When

[17:00] something comes with you, it comes to you with a problem, and basically what you want to tell is that you'll address the situation at our meetings.

[17:09] Everything in this town has to go through the city, and that's why we had these meetings.

[17:14] Address the situation if it entails something to be done, then we'll do it.

[17:36] I'm going to give you my experience with this, is that all right, and I'm sure others might have had it, and if you haven't, I think this will be good. I was a city councilman for six years ago, and this now for four and a half, right, as mayor.

[17:50] majority of people want to be heard. You know, and if we sincerely listen and take

[17:58] what they have to say, not with a grain of salt, but try and get where they're

[18:02] coming from, I find that even if we disagree, they're more happy with the outcome

[18:07] than anything. That's been my experience. So anyway. I think also with that

[18:14] There's a lot of people they just want to complain.

[18:17] They really don't want to come before the council,

[18:20] raise their hand and say, hey, I have issues with this,

[18:24] we talk about, you know, and they would rather just be back

[18:27] in the backyard and piss them on to their neighbor

[18:30] about what's going on and what's there to have it.

[18:33] There are rights to come here.

[18:35] I think you're right.

[18:36] But I think at the same time we listen.

[18:38] Yeah, they have to come and we have to listen.

[18:41] And number one, I'm going to listen.

[18:42] But I think that we need to address and make them feel like yes, your problem is a concern of ours.

[18:50] Yeah. Good.

[18:52] Okay.

[18:53] Mark.

[18:55] Collin.

[18:56] What are your thoughts about growth and development in our community?

[19:02] And what should the city consider when deciding whether to approve new development?

[19:08] I think we're all for growth and development, you know, within the city as well as within our personal lives.

[19:15] But we need to evaluate and see, can the city sustain the growth?

[19:22] You know, like a few years ago, the water issue, we shouldn't have water.

[19:27] People need to realize that, unfortunately, there may come a time where we can't have the experience anymore growth.

[19:36] As far as having a land and resources, we've probably got that, but we still have to look

[19:42] around and see, can we sustain growth and development?

[19:47] That's the big factor right there.

[19:50] And if we can, I guess we should look at it and pursue growth, because if we don't continue

[19:55] to growth and progress, then we'll just go on back.

[20:01] We're good.

[20:02] Very.

[20:03] You know, it's correct about the water situation here in the house, but the most important thing,

[20:08] I think, if you're going to build your community, you won't commercial.

[20:11] You need commercial.

[20:12] You need the taxes that you're going to get from them.

[20:15] Having a homeowner's movement in the community, they take more than they give.

[20:23] So, therefore, we do need, we do need them.

[20:26] We need people coming to town.

[20:28] This, I think, commercial, building is commercial, looks up for stories where my tape, gas stations, or whatever, there's a lot of ways that we can travel.

[20:40] And the water situation is a bad thing, I understand that they did, they got some water out west on the west side of the mountain over there, and it's available to us if needed.

[20:50] I don't know if that's true or not, whatever that is.

[20:52] Very good. Thank you.

[20:54] All right, this is accountability and we're going to start with you Harry, accountability.

[21:00] If you voted for something and later discovered that your decision was based on incorrect

[21:04] information, what would you do?

[21:06] Absolutely.

[21:08] I made a mistake.

[21:09] So about that, let's face it.

[21:12] We're good.

[21:12] Calm down.

[21:13] I agree we've got to.

[21:14] If we made a mistake or judgment, we should evaluate it and correct it, you know, you

[21:20] say, yep.

[21:21] I made a mistake.

[21:25] Yeah, and it's gonna happen whether it's gonna hopefully it doesn't happen at this level what by the time it gets here

[21:31] We should hopefully have seen enough, but you might have that one on one. It's gonna happen. We're all gonna make mistakes

[21:44] Very good

[21:45] All right

[21:47] Brian, the night, yesterday, the city council must work together even when individual members

[21:56] have different opinions. What does bring being a good council member and team member

[22:03] mean to you? We'll start calling on this. In that case, I think we need to listen

[22:09] to all the options and all the facts gather all of them. Don't be coming into the meeting.

[22:14] in close mind that I've already discussed this with someone and decided to do this.

[22:21] We need to come in with an open mind and sit down and be honest with ourselves as

[22:26] well as our fellow council members as well as the community.

[22:32] There's going to be time for you to disagree with maybe one or two, maybe everybody.

[22:40] And you have to have that ability to step down if you feel like that, which is still right.

[22:47] And what everybody else is going for is a great way to go.

[22:51] And you don't want to get blown up, get mad, upset.

[22:56] And you mad at everybody for the rest of your life.

[22:59] You've got to move on.

[23:00] It's important that you have to be able to adjust to your own mindset.

[23:06] Thank you.

[23:10] Okay.

[23:11] Next.

[23:13] Okay.

[23:15] And this will be Harry.

[23:19] The council's position requires preparation meetings,

[23:22] community involvement, and occasionally difficult conversations.

[23:25] What level of time commitment, when are you prepared to give to this position?

[23:30] Can you read that?

[23:31] I don't know.

[23:32] I'm sorry.

[23:32] The City Council requires preparations, meetings, community involvement, and occasional difficult conversations.

[23:41] What level of time and commitment are you prepared to give to this position?

[23:46] If you're set in a position and now you should be willing to give 100 percent, that's what you're there for.

[23:55] And I don't know about what situation it is, given an opportunity and you had that opportunity

[24:02] and you're asked to do something, you give it 100%.

[24:08] Call them.

[24:09] I would just say in this point, with Harry as well as myself, we don't have to go punch the time clock.

[24:16] So if we have to be someplace at 9 o'clock or 3 o'clock, we can pretty much schedule that

[24:21] with our time and everything and both that to it.

[24:25] And then we do grow, make sure that it's a worthwhile project

[24:29] and that there is some merit in that.

[24:32] Very good, thank you both.

[24:35] All right, Mark.

[24:37] Colin, what do you believe would be your greatest strength

[24:40] as a council member?

[24:42] What is an area where you would need to grow or learn?

[24:48] I

[24:52] like to think that I'm pretty open-minded now,

[24:57] I think I'm pretty open-minded and I am willing to grow in some cases, I get kind of

[25:04] full-headed and I'm already made my decision and my factor before I think about it.

[25:12] And that's why I always say one thing you need to, I would say let's back up four steps,

[25:19] take a couple of deep breaths and look around and see where we are at.

[25:24] What's going on and then move forward at that time?

[25:31] Very good.

[25:31] We need that, please.

[25:33] What do you believe would be your greatest strength as a council member and what is an

[25:40] area where you would need to grow or learn?

[25:45] My greatest strength in the council.

[25:48] Strength.

[25:50] Strength.

[25:55] Strength.

[25:57] You have to be able to control spread stress.

[25:59] So it's strength.

[26:01] Oh, strength?

[26:02] Yes, sir.

[26:02] Oh, okay.

[26:03] I'm sorry.

[26:04] No, you're fine.

[26:12] It's important that you have the ability

[26:14] to be able to work with everybody

[26:17] including the people in town.

[26:20] The strength is something inside me.

[26:23] You don't know you have to talk, it comes up

[26:24] and something happens.

[26:26] And you find out, oh, gosh, I should have done this.

[26:29] I should have done that.

[26:31] You do the best you can, and the ability you have, and most of the time, you're in thoughts

[26:41] and everything else that you feel are probably the best way to fall.

[26:47] And the reference to this

[26:53] is just,

[26:56] you've got to add the strength and be able to get the job done.

[26:59] So what's one area that you feel like you could grow in or you might need to grow in too?

[27:04] You know, I don't know, I don't know what my job is.

[27:09] Yeah, it's going to be important back on that question.

[27:15] Every day, it's a learning curve for all of us, I think.

[27:18] It is.

[27:21] Okay, well, I don't see a need to ask the last question.

[27:24] So what we're going to do now, again, I express our appreciation for you both

[27:29] to submit your desire to be a part of the City Council.

[27:33] We're looking forward to having you.

[27:34] So at this time, we're going to swear you in, correct?

[27:38] No, we're going to make motion.

[27:39] Oh, thank you.

[27:41] This time, we're going to make a motion

[27:45] to accept Colin Edwards and Harry Kern.

[27:48] So you've got one question.

[27:50] Please.

[27:51] Can Colin be on the planet's own end here?

[27:54] No, he'll bank it.

[27:55] Yeah, thank you for that clarification.

[27:57] call on year where you would then vacate your position of planning and zoning we'd have

[28:02] to open that up.

[28:03] Appreciate that clarification.

[28:07] So then with that we're going to do, we'll do, we can do a bolt together can we?

[28:12] Yeah no thank.

[28:14] I have to say on the term end.

[28:17] Okay thank you.

[28:19] So, and to be clear, that this now is to the end of the term which should be two and a

[28:26] years from now, a little over two years from now. Are we there?

[28:34] What did I have?

[28:38] Less than a year and a half. And then what will happen is you will be clear at that

[28:43] point whether you're going to, if you decide to continue for the seat, whether you'll

[28:47] do a two-year or a four-year and you'll determine which one, but at that point it

[28:52] will be open for anyone to apply for those positions. Are we clear on that?

[29:00] Yes.

[29:01] Okay. So then I will entertain a motion to a point, Colin Edwards and Harry Kern to

[29:09] the Centerfield City Council for the remainder of this turn, this current term. Do I have a motion?

[29:19] Motion by Councilor Hanson to add a second by Councilor Zaynett, then any further discussion?

[29:26] All those in favor?

[29:27] Aye.

[29:28] Any opposed?

[29:29] Team Animes.

[29:30] So, I invite you to come take this seat or that seat because they're yours now.

[29:35] Come on up.

[29:36] And I want to end it all.

[29:37] Oh yeah.

[29:37] Now you got to give it right here.

[29:39] Down here up here.

[29:40] I don't know.

[29:40] What do you want to do?

[29:41] You want me to stand by the flag?

[29:43] Yeah.

[29:44] Go stand by the flag.

[29:44] Would you?

[29:49] Now some of you are probably sitting out there whether doing this, some of you probably sitting out there going, why did they not do this at the end?

[29:55] Can I be honest, I think this is an important part that we have as many people here.

[30:00] Minus this, because this is how government works, right? And it's good to hear you have you hear their answers as well. So,

[30:07] please.

[30:08] I'm going to write on the square and then just repeat after I, and you can say your name. I do solemnly swear our firm.

[30:16] I heard you solemnly swear our firm.

[30:19] The I will support, obey and defend.

[30:23] I will support, obey and defend.

[30:25] The Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Utah, and I will

[30:34] discharge the duties of my office with fidelity,

[30:43] okay, that's it.

[30:45] Here it is.

[30:45] We'll sign after.

[30:46] I mean, okay.

[30:47] Okay, so don't run.

[30:49] All right.

[30:49] Well, we welcome our team new council members, council and Edwards and councilman

[30:54] Turn so thank you both for doing that. Okay. You have an agenda before you

[31:13] So next on our agenda is our guss and valley police department report. We have chief

[31:20] Jason Adamson here, so I will pull that out so everybody can see right here

[31:55] Yeah, we got this picture at the night out event, they're kind of so far we put up some

[32:03] cones with remote control cars and with beer goggles on kids and had them try to drive

[32:07] through the cones so they can see how bad it is after them. So it was pretty fun.

[32:12] They lasted about an hour and a half and then the batteries died so we got almost the whole

[32:16] way through. Oh good. Like that blank. But it was pretty fun. So this just shows our

[32:22] our call for service or the reports we wrote this last month, we're sitting right on

[32:27] average where we were average is about 70 so we're sitting right there. It wasn't as

[32:32] busy as we were last year which is good and you know it all complaints from my

[32:37] officers and myself so it wasn't overly crazy for us. Wonderful. It's good. The next

[32:44] slide here just shows what calls we did here in the center field. We had

[32:49] Making calls for service and center field that we handle and take care of, you know, just wide range of calls.

[32:56] If you have any questions about any of the specific ones, you're always welcome to ask.

[33:00] And if I don't know it, I'll look it up and get back to you.

[33:03] But those are the calls that we had from here.

[33:07] A lot of like, you know, just routine ones that we get a lot of, like, helping the citizens of that.

[33:13] Mainly with other ones.

[33:15] Our uniform primary report, we had one, we had one sexual abuse last month.

[33:20] It was investigated but we could not, we didn't have enough evidence to make an arrest in that case.

[33:28] And so that's the only UCR report that we had for last month.

[33:34] Our busiest was back in 2004.

[33:37] Next slide, Shizuos, where we have our citations and warnings and arrests really.

[33:42] I mean, two arrests last month.

[33:44] I think both of those were up in the,

[33:47] well, I think maybe one of them was down here.

[33:49] I think the assaults and guns and the dress passers-by

[33:51] was here in center field.

[33:54] And then, we're out there getting

[33:56] after the citations and stuff like that.

[33:58] Yeah, you're good, yeah, no worries whatsoever.

[34:02] Updates, so there's a lot of meaning for our department.

[34:06] We can join this ICE task force.

[34:08] It's a compote at our discretion.

[34:10] There's a lot of grant money that's available with it.

[34:13] Some money for equipment, for training, for IT stuff, vehicles, even like overtime and wage reimbursement.

[34:22] So it's pretty neat system.

[34:25] The idea is that we just would be able to, if we had a more serious crime like a felony with somebody,

[34:31] and they would be able to be able to take the action with the federal agents, you know, helping.

[34:36] And this we'd have the back end of federal, you know, Department of Justice for us as well

[34:42] So that it's not going to require you to actively go out and pursue or anything you know be up there

[34:47] It's 100% what we want and what the cities want

[34:50] So if you guys told us that you don't want to do it, then we would stop. I'll give you more information when we have our next

[34:56] Board, maybe board meeting, you know, with our face department, but I can give I can send in to you guys. I've got

[35:04] something handouts on it, they came by and you know asked us to help out and I was like

[35:09] free money, free money, right?

[35:11] Well, and I think in the premise that you even said that if there's a violent criminal

[35:15] or something like that, absolutely, we would do it anyway, right?

[35:19] 100%.

[35:19] Now we have to just take a one step further.

[35:21] Yeah, this just gives us where we can potentially do it ourselves.

[35:24] But I mean I already have contacts with the Homeland Security that I can reach out to,

[35:27] So we already had that.

[35:29] I mean, first of all, this just makes it a lot easier for us and gives us additional training

[35:33] for our officers as well.

[35:34] So that would be make sure we're not violating anybody's rights, we're not doing anything.

[35:37] But we are not looking to be ICE agents, we're not looking to go knock on doors and, you know,

[35:42] that kind of stuff that's not in any way what we're looking for.

[35:46] Just one thing that I wanted to bring out as a shout out.

[35:50] So I'm sure most of you guys are aware that they have that major incident with the infate,

[35:55] at the county where there was some sort of a money dispute and an individual shot at

[36:01] the person that he thought, oh damn another $50. You should always try to kill somebody

[36:07] over 50 bucks. And then he fled and then, you know, anyway, Chase was working at night and

[36:15] he called me and was just telling me the details about it and I was like, what do you guys need

[36:17] me to come in? I was like, no, we get enough people. He's like, and then he used to tell me,

[36:21] like I think I know where this guy probably went because you know he's a local

[36:25] local boy from around here so he went back to the out to the far west out

[36:30] there he he found the guy pretty quick which was awesome and then he sat on

[36:34] you know just kept pretty far distance with binoculars and you know kept him you

[36:40] know walk down in that area till they got enough officers out there and they

[36:42] really make him laugh so good good move by him and you know quick thinking and

[36:46] you know finding somebody that we needed to get arrested and off the street so I

[36:50] wonderful. Yeah, he lived in our area. The suspect lived in our area. Wow. Yeah, he had lived in

[36:56] Center Field, but he was currently living in Gunnison at the time. How many of you guys?

[37:00] I'm going to be up to many events to see you guys are aware of. We've got the

[37:03] the Parks and the Festival and the Parade. I work up and he gave us that letter for the

[37:09] for you dot tomorrow. I'll get that set off for the parade. We've got our Hong Kong parade. It's

[37:14] going to be on the night and then we've got the light parade in Gunnison. It'll be on the 28th. So those

[37:20] We've got going on for most of us this year.

[37:23] We've got other things involved in like this,

[37:25] the Santa Claus last year.

[37:27] Perfect.

[37:27] Yeah.

[37:28] Any questions that's all I have?

[37:31] Any questions for Chief?

[37:34] Ryan, did you have a question?

[37:35] I might have a for you, Chief.

[37:37] Yeah.

[37:37] I have some serious, it says an approach to me.

[37:40] Apparently, the flock cameras have kind of surfaced lately.

[37:45] We don't have something to do on it.

[37:48] I don't know, I haven't looked at the website you can get on to see where they're at.

[37:52] The question that's been brought to me by citizens is how does something like that happen

[38:00] with the city?

[38:01] How does a private entity put something like that on a city property?

[38:05] How does it, how do they go about it?

[38:07] You don't have any knowledge?

[38:08] Yeah.

[38:09] I imagine you could share with us that it was unlike citizens on how a flock of Amazon was

[38:14] under show about it more.

[38:15] Yeah, so there's a flock reached out to me, I don't know, six or eight months ago, and I had a couple of meetings with them.

[38:22] But there's always grant money that you can go after for certain things like this.

[38:27] I mean, most of that grant money is controlled by the states, you have to apply for it, and then I'm getting it.

[38:32] We currently have two motor roller cameras that we use that are LPR cameras, but motor roller does not sell any of the data.

[38:39] And that's why I think that's a kind of problem you're getting with the flock cameras is that they take the data and then they sell it to, you know, people for

[38:49] Like advertisements and things like that, you know, which is not what we bought. That's not the purpose of it, but

[38:54] But flock cameras their their model is the same as like most models that we've seen but going around

[39:01] They want subscriptions. They want to put cameras up as many as they can and you know in your cities

[39:06] They talk, you know, they offer to me that, you know, we'll even put them up at our expense,

[39:12] then you can see how they work for, you know, like, a two-month period, and then you can

[39:16] decide if you want to go forward, and if you don't, we'll come take them down, you know.

[39:19] I mean, but it's the same thing with any sales thing, so if you want you to put it up, then

[39:22] you feel guilty if you take it down.

[39:24] You know, that kind of stuff, but they're just, they're a company, they reach out to police

[39:29] departments all over the place and offer to put them up, but they're, they're not cheap

[39:33] to have them.

[39:34] I mean, unless you have a plan, and it's, you know, fun, but the two that we have, they,

[39:40] we own them.

[39:42] So there, there are cameras.

[39:43] Is that how to share between agencies or?

[39:46] Yeah, so it's shared with, the agencies within them would have rolled out.

[39:51] And so, so like, you have that homicide, I can't remember where that was down here in the

[39:57] area.

[39:58] So they were able to track that individual by punching in the license, it's all on the vehicle

[40:01] license plate.

[40:02] and then they could see where it had been hit.

[40:05] So like the flock cameras are,

[40:07] we've had an LPR technology license plate readers

[40:10] for almost most of my career,

[40:12] I think it was probably around 2005, 2006

[40:14] that we started seeing and where we would,

[40:16] they had these license plate reader vehicles,

[40:19] they had a bunch of cameras on them

[40:20] and they would just go drive around

[40:22] in like apartment complexes and known areas

[40:25] where a lot of them stolen vehicles were dropped

[40:28] and so they were looking for stolen vehicles

[40:29] And so we would put out, yes, when I worked at the Salt Lake area, they put out, yes, for

[40:34] over time, we'd go, you know, run around in the, in there and recover still in the

[40:38] fields for people.

[40:39] It was like the big thing for my first came out, and then it was, then it's moved to this

[40:43] section.

[40:44] These kind of things.

[40:44] I don't know what you like, I don't know what the, the gallery, I think this is something

[40:50] the legislature is going to have to weigh in on, and I think even our, our courts are going

[40:55] to have to weigh in on, you know, what, what's the constitutionality of having these cameras

[40:59] with our CN everybody's license plate. I mean I will tell you that we're not tracking anybody,

[41:04] like we just don't have the time resources to do that, but we do get notified if like the stolen

[41:09] vehicle drives through our area, or you know if we're looking for you know a suspect like an homicide

[41:15] suspect or something like that, that's what we do. So probably a question that I get is do we assist

[41:23] is how the right or say, whether we receive these or not, that's a big one.

[41:30] Yeah, 100%.

[41:30] And usually, like, if we had some significant problems in our area with crime, I mean,

[41:37] like, the clock started initially, they had, like, sound listening devices, where they

[41:42] could put them up in problem areas, and then they could try to release the sound, right?

[41:47] So they, you know, you have four or five cameras throughout your city, and there's gunshots

[41:50] us in this area. Well, it's going to, you know, it knows how long it'll take for the

[41:55] sound to hit our camera, you know, how many different cameras did it hit at, and then

[41:58] they can triangulate. And so then you can send officers like, hey, you can go to this area

[42:02] where they were gunshots. And then they moved into the license plate reading as well, because

[42:06] it's just more money. But, yeah, if our communities do not want it, they use it to talk to the board

[42:14] and then you talk to me as well, and then we would take them down. It doesn't bother me.

[42:19] I mean, it just depends on what we want, as it's under here.

[42:23] There wasn't under me, there were a bunch of guys that came out, I think, in 2000, where

[42:30] they had where you could purchase these motor roller cameras, and so our department purchased

[42:34] three of them.

[42:36] That was really awesome.

[42:36] We had them up.

[42:37] The last little bit, though.

[42:39] Yeah, they had been up before, and then I was working with motor roller, and we got them

[42:44] up running again.

[42:47] Well, I can just, just for clarification sake, for those of you who are hearing this,

[42:54] we probably wonder what we're talking about is, there's cameras that are set up certain

[42:57] areas.

[42:57] The flock ones are ones that, that they can sell the information or whatever else.

[43:03] Well, they can advertise, I guess, like you said, for certain things.

[43:09] Yeah, I know exactly.

[43:10] It's really, but it's, it's really not, uh, it's not under a real,

[43:16] strenuous lock and key. Uh, as chief was just explained, we have one at the

[43:22] beginning, well, we have two in town, two in this area.

[43:27] The whole idea is safety. So if somebody, amber alerts,

[43:32] grailers, um, if we have, uh, any type of suspect or

[43:37] their bullies beyond lookouts for or whatever, you've got, it notifies them and it's a really

[43:45] good thing. I was on the board when we first put them up a few years ago or we put them up,

[43:50] it was 100% yes. When they started talking about the advantages of that, the neat thing about it is

[43:57] it's not for the public. This is only for the police. Matter of fact, none of us, even on the board,

[44:03] could have access or don't know any of that and not that they would do it anyway, right?

[44:09] Yeah, this is for policing only.

[44:12] I personally have no problem voting for it because I think it's a great thing to help

[44:17] find people in a very quick time and that's sometimes what we need.

[44:23] Yeah.

[44:23] And it's under the same regulations that we have for any of our, you know, the Bureau of Criminal

[44:29] information, the VCI, that we run for individuals.

[44:33] So if it's abused, then we lose our jobs,

[44:35] we lose our certifications.

[44:37] And then I think about the meeting we had that Intel

[44:40] briefly, I can send from the state's side.

[44:45] I think it's called anyway.

[44:46] It doesn't run out of state, Intel's center, they have.

[44:49] And there was an officer in Kentucky

[44:50] that was using it illegally and lost his job.

[44:54] And I mean, there's a bunch of sanctions

[44:55] for the department as well.

[44:57] So we can see the same thing.

[44:58] Exactly. Yeah, I'm in.

[45:00] You know, the place, they're just reading plates, just like if I'm driving down the road and I see a vehicle on fire, man, you know, like they do something that, you know, warrants a stop or if I'm like other cars acting on the suspicious, I can run the plane. Where if I'm looking forward and sort of individual, I can run a plane, you know, just give me information on it and tell me if it's stolen or not.

[45:20] You get a lot of notifications on your phone to have an awesome child introduction to the

[45:25] analysis.

[45:25] It's perfect.

[45:26] Like what you said.

[45:26] My mother turned around and got spotted in the car.

[45:29] And this is really fantastic.

[45:31] Because they've caught so many, you know, and it's kind of nice.

[45:35] It's kind of nice.

[45:36] It is.

[45:36] Do you have any other questions?

[45:38] The issue, I think, is that the people that are soldiering about is that they've known

[45:43] the block information or CAD and fee, so when that's working, that's what they're having

[45:49] issues with. Yeah, nobody's having issues with other roles. Yeah, the role it doesn't.

[45:53] So, they don't collect it. It's all that internal, okay.

[45:57] So, I think the answer might be, Councillor Slythus, yeah, we do have them, but it's not

[46:01] flock, and it's completely controlled internally, and it's actually been a benefit in the city.

[46:07] I mean, people share, like, in the only reason, what it means by share, like, I share

[46:11] with law enforcement uses all over the country, just means if they put somebody in like

[46:15] an amber alert or stole a vehicle or something like that, if that car comes or they're

[46:21] going to get an email, it will tell them, hey this vehicle was seen in this area, so they

[46:25] can track where the person is gone.

[46:27] You just have to try this problem.

[46:30] The plot right now is there for tracking people and then selling that information to businesses

[46:38] and they were, I think, that's why they called me home.

[46:41] Yeah, from what I understand, like, the owner of a lot,

[46:43] became the billionaire pretty quick, you know,

[46:45] like, and insanely fast.

[46:46] And I mean, that's how it's meant.

[46:48] So, well, when we generally don't have comments from public,

[46:52] but I did see your hand in line.

[46:54] Go ahead.

[46:55] Thank you so much.

[46:56] I just have a question.

[46:56] Just state your name real quick so we can go now.

[46:59] Dr. King of the Bank, come with me.

[47:00] So, I noticed on the north,

[47:03] I was at home security cameras,

[47:05] that folks have not seen on their homes, they don't know about campus and that, but especially

[47:10] for like the ones in the Amazon, I mean there are some of them that they are, and for a lot

[47:16] of folks, they are part of the neighbors app with that, which are also those two, one

[47:24] of course, right?

[47:25] I mean, times something like that here.

[47:27] So you individually have to, it's like I bring cameras on my own, individually I have

[47:33] often to be a part of that in order for them to be able to use it. So to do it,

[47:38] we're just getting the same kind of things like if we're looking for it, we know

[47:41] there's a kid who's wearing like a red shirt, blue jeans, and has my green backpack,

[47:46] you know, or like some flashy shoes. We can put that in there, then the, you know,

[47:50] their AI can scrub all the brain cameras and then tell us, like we know that he was

[47:55] here at this time, or look for him, and so then, you know, like Amazon, you know, but you

[48:00] You would have had to opt in into that.

[48:02] They send me emails and when I set it up,

[48:04] I had to quit.

[48:05] Yes, I know a lot of them, a lot of them.

[48:07] Yeah, I think it's not that good.

[48:09] Yeah, I mean, it is, and I think it is.

[48:11] So, I mean, that's a private company trying to help out

[48:15] where they can, anyway.

[48:18] But there's also an event that I think is.

[48:20] Thank you, and thank you.

[48:21] And thank you.

[48:22] All right, Chief, appreciate it.

[48:24] All right, thank you, Chief.

[48:25] Yeah, if you have more questions,

[48:26] we can talk offline as well.

[48:29] Thank you, thank you.

[48:29] And those people are welcome to come in and talk to us about it, saying, like, all of that in the open conversations.

[48:35] I've had some people approach me and I'm like, I have no idea that I'm looking for one.

[48:38] Yeah, no, absolutely.

[48:40] I pulled up, but you can, there's a map, you can see where there's some of them.

[48:43] Yeah, so the state just put out, it actually hasn't gotten into effect yet.

[48:47] It goes into effect on like, the 27th of this month.

[48:51] I sent them all the data on our LPRs, and then I just sent them a permit for as well.

[48:59] So the state is now tracking everything.

[49:02] That's good as well, so I'm very good.

[49:05] Thanks, Chief.

[49:05] I appreciate you.

[49:06] Okay, next is our agenda, Marcie.

[49:08] These kids so quiet for someone.

[49:11] I'm so impressive.

[49:13] You guys have helped me for the canned goods.

[49:32] Okay, so this year for boost is a little bit different, typically we would come to you

[49:39] before the kind of fair as for boost and you all have been super good about it. This

[49:45] year is a little different because we came to you after a kind of fair. The reason

[49:49] thing is to make sure that all of our animals are waiting and they're good to

[49:52] get that the participants showing the animals are good to get their boost. So you say

[49:57] boost, what do you mean? Boost money is added that money to the animal that has that

[50:03] has been sold. So basically you're like like

[50:08] here it's like a fundraiser for the

[50:11] kid for all of their work that they put into their animal. They sell it at the

[50:15] auction and this money goes and helps support them a lot of them beyond what they

[50:20] got for the auction money. To pay off like what they spent throughout the

[50:26] because sometimes that doesn't happen.

[50:28] So in the past, the associations, well, we had it

[50:33] so that they could kind of collect books before,

[50:36] and we ran into some problems with them.

[50:38] Then people were collecting money,

[50:40] but then their animals were making weight.

[50:42] So they couldn't actually...

[50:44] They couldn't...

[50:45] They couldn't even have made that fight.

[50:48] So then it would just have to go into the general fund

[50:50] to somebody else's kids.

[50:52] So we changed it this year.

[50:53] So, instead of asking for this money in advance, they now have to wait in their animals and then we can come ask.

[51:01] Very good. I like that, actually.

[51:03] Yeah, it makes a lot of noise.

[51:06] Okay, keep going, sorry.

[51:08] You're good. Ask all the questions you need.

[51:12] Do I have to name off the kids?

[51:14] So, there are 13 kids from centerfield that have been showing animals.

[51:24] Do you want all the names of the kids that have showed animals this year?

[51:29] We have Bentley Bore, Bryson Bore, Kase Bore, Cooper Bore, Kelsha Coates, Dallas Franks,

[51:35] Brandon, me and my brother, Hayden Thompson, Blake Childs, Griffin Childs, Tyler Childs and

[51:42] probably Childs.

[51:44] So all these kids did really good, we brought seven of the 13 with us.

[51:49] That's awesome.

[51:51] But they weren't really hard, this means that like these kids are learning how to like take care of their animals.

[51:57] They're learning to weigh feed, adjust if their animals are getting sick, they would not take care of them when they're sick.

[52:05] They walk their animals, I'm sure you can see them around the neighborhood,

[52:09] lock you, pick down the street or go around my land a couple times, a milk cart.

[52:16] But they say we're really hard for these animals to go compete at the livestock show.

[52:23] If you'd like the ones that are king, they can come up and tell you what I'm going to do.

[52:27] So I think you should try this one.

[52:29] That'd be great.

[52:31] They seem so excited.

[52:34] One kind of child's a mushroom.

[52:36] I'm gonna put it in here.

[52:37] It's two bits and a half.

[52:39] I'm dressing blonde and I show a show.

[52:41] I should wear it.

[52:43] Good.

[52:43] I'm blake childs and I show a pig.

[52:47] I'm going out on my side, keep it.

[52:49] I'm probably childs and I show a pig.

[52:52] I'm looking to try the match on a pig.

[52:55] I'm going to call out in the match show.

[52:57] Stairs, lands and goats.

[52:59] Very good.

[53:00] It's awesome.

[53:01] Sounds like we had great representation from Sarah Phil.

[53:03] I don't know if they're good kids, they're good kids, they're awesome.

[53:07] Okay.

[53:08] Do you have any other questions for us or anything else you'd like to know?

[53:11] Well, you're coming for a donation, so what are you looking for?

[53:17] Well, I think last year when we came in, you guys said that that budget had been cut.

[53:22] So I don't know last year, I think it was like $50 a kid.

[53:25] Yeah, last year it was $50 for a kid, and that budget is $900.

[53:31] So if you do $50 for a kid, that would take some $50 for a budget.

[53:34] We're all budget of 900

[53:46] That's

[53:49] not my choice. That's a council's so council your thoughts

[54:09] On one thing I can understand I hope you can't too

[54:15] Okay, so what do you so that on what do you suggest what do you thought?

[54:21] maybe 50 bucks or sorry 25 bucks a kilo council discussion

[54:29] I don't know

[54:31] works I

[54:35] think we need to utilize the best we can if they're here first we

[54:44] give it to them all over the world that's unfortunate for the rest sure I'm

[54:51] goes for $25. Harry thought? This is my first day here. Right? In the hot seat, buddy.

[55:05] Has it affected our budget?

[55:10] There's $900 in that budget for the whole year, and if we did $50 per kid, it would take $650.

[55:18] So this is $900. So if the proposal or the thought that hasn't been

[55:22] an emotion maybe yet on up to the discussion has been to cut that in half to 25 which would

[55:28] make that 325 out of the 900 with you know 575 remaining. So that would still open the door

[55:37] for other council Smith any thoughts my last is 25 bucks a hell is it really a whole

[55:47] I think it's a big example of what we got in other businesses and they get to decide themselves as well that they can afford.

[55:57] I want to support your center field. I want to support kids. I want the kids that are going to stay in center field.

[56:06] So that's what I'm thinking about, I want to support you, I wish we had more, but I'm

[56:15] over 25.

[56:17] Okay.

[56:18] So then I'll entertain a motion to donate $25 per kid, the centerful kid for 4-H, which

[56:28] would be 13 kids at $25 would be $325 total. Is there a motion?

[56:38] They really want to make that motion.

[56:41] Motion by Councilman Smith. Councilman Hanson, do you want a second? Yes.

[56:45] Second by Councilman Hanson. Any further discussion from the Council? All those in favor.

[56:50] All right any opposed see you down this you bet appreciate you guys a good job

[57:32] Okay

[57:33] Okay, next on the agenda is

[57:38] Is our another ordinance it was this was a public hearing that was held in

[57:45] And planning is zoning, but this is on a minor subdivision, an ordinance of mending the

[57:54] centerfield city subdivision ordinance to establish requirements and procedures for a minor

[57:58] subdivision.

[58:02] Anyway, we had a good discussion prior to this meeting, and I think it was a two months ago,

[58:11] wasn't it? Because we didn't have planning in all of this. Yeah, so July. And anyway, so

[58:22] this was the updated version from some of that meeting. Is there any questions or concerns

[58:27] with this? So, Harry, all of us are talking about the city right there. Yep, little

[58:41] over two

[58:42] pages, is all.

[59:00] Do you remind me of what we said? I can't remember if it was two or three

[59:10] I don't know if you ever need some help on that.

[59:13] No, that's good.

[59:14] So here's what's going to happen is when we find these things that we talked about that we don't have here,

[59:19] it doesn't mean that we have to come back and vote on this again.

[59:23] What it means is we can pass this with the adentives or with the changes as needed because we're right.

[59:31] we did discuss that it didn't make it in here so we that's an easy fix so we're

[59:38] going to replace that give me a place so we know we make sure we include it in the

[59:42] right place. Probably under B. B is a rubble. Yeah, 11.060. Okay, it's standard. It's for minor

[59:53] Our subdivision approval, again, so I can pull this out here.

[1:00:00] Everybody else to see.

[1:00:08] This is the so minor, uh, minor subdivision, shall comply with fallen standards. One minor subdivision law may not be less than one half acre in size. Um,

[1:00:25] Yes.

[1:00:28] Okay. Are we good to add that there then? Yeah. Okay.

[1:00:33] We'll just make that number three.

[1:00:39] Okay, that's great. That's great. Any other good catch? Any others that we need to consider?

[1:01:02] If there's nothing else on that, then I will entertain a motion to accept the ordinance.

[1:01:10] What's the word I'm looking for? Is it accept? That's not what it's

[1:01:16] I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 2026-6 and minor subdivision.

[1:01:25] Anyone want to make that motion?

[1:01:28] With the change to the two law, it consists of a two law subdivision, minor subdivision.

[1:01:38] Well, consistent two lots.

[1:01:44] Motion by Councilman Hanson, do I have a second?

[1:01:47] No, sir.

[1:01:47] The second by Councilman Hammond, any further discussion

[1:01:50] from the Council?

[1:01:51] Any other things?

[1:01:53] Seeing none, I'll put the motion to a vote.

[1:01:56] All those in favor?

[1:01:57] Aye.

[1:01:58] Any opposed?

[1:02:00] OK, it's unanimous.

[1:02:02] OK, the last thing before we get into someone's finish

[1:02:05] is this is something we need to discuss.

[1:02:07] We have a secondary water discussion

[1:02:09] with a contract and interest. So here's the issue that we're running into in our city

[1:02:14] accountant has been great to point out some things to help us understand it better. Currently

[1:02:20] with all these meters that were put in there, we put in a grant to receive money from the

[1:02:26] state to put it these meters in, but the grant was for one inch meters. And we knew that

[1:02:32] we were going to run into a few people that desired to have a greater, you know, meter size,

[1:02:37] one and a half two-inch even possibly even up to a four-inch. The decision was made by the council that if that was the case that the individual to make it fair and equitable across the board for all residents, the one-inch was the standard, anything above the standard that the resident themselves would pay the difference.

[1:02:59] With that being said, there came into a little bit of a potential issue in the fact that if we charge somebody above,

[1:03:10] one, when did they pay it? If it's a lot of money, like, Joe, give me a two and a half inch or whatever.

[1:03:16] Two inches, like, almost, it's a lot of powder and stuff and all of them, maybe one or something like that.

[1:03:21] above the one.

[1:03:26] And so some of the concern was one, that's a lot of money to come up with

[1:03:30] right away. But two, if we allowed them for the city, I guess, and for lack of a better

[1:03:40] term float them, then we needed to have a contract because ultimately if they don't pay it off

[1:03:48] or they sell or they go away, then we don't have anything that shows that they pass it all.

[1:03:54] So a contract and then two, do we as a city take you residents money to float them?

[1:04:01] Should we charge a small amount of interest to offset that money and the administration costs that are involved with tracking that and everything else?

[1:04:13] This was again a suggestion by our CPA, not a CPA, our account, our city accountant, as

[1:04:24] he's looking at this going, you know, looking out for the best interests of the residents.

[1:04:30] Now, and there was one particular incident that we kind of used for example, and I won't

[1:04:37] go into that, but just where we really brought this to the forefront, we thought we need

[1:04:41] to do some about this. So there's kind of the background. I want to have a discussion

[1:04:45] on what we feel like would be the best way to move forward. So I'm open to any thoughts

[1:04:52] from the council.

[1:04:55] Well, I don't think the city's bank, they don't, they need to be there, they need to find

[1:05:02] the money there. It's not everything else in life. I don't, and I don't think that the

[1:05:09] The citizens of the centerfield need to, they're not a matter.

[1:05:14] Yeah, it's a good point.

[1:05:16] What did they get of four inches, three and a half inch lines?

[1:05:19] Well, some of that might be because of the amount

[1:05:23] of brown nail, it might come in off that,

[1:05:26] and then rather, you know, if they have four or five acres,

[1:05:30] it comes in better as where they get needed, right?

[1:05:33] And then what they do with it on their property,

[1:05:36] they can bell down and do whatever they need to that way.

[1:05:38] So there is there is very few but a few that would

[1:05:43] The hard part and I'm just gonna play devil's advocate because I agree with you. Don't get me wrong there

[1:05:48] But the hard part is the difference is sometimes

[1:05:52] We are mandating this well the state is mandating this and so they it makes it a little harder than then it's a little more than just a choice

[1:06:01] I think at that point you're right. There are options. I'm just trying to lay out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, okay

[1:06:07] Other thoughts. Councilor Hansel looked like you were going to say something.

[1:06:10] I would want to go more than a year.

[1:06:13] Okay, so a contract would we want to attach any type of interest with that?

[1:06:19] Yeah, I think you'd like 5%.

[1:06:20] A 5% interest?

[1:06:24] For one year?

[1:06:28] Max? Other thoughts?

[1:06:31] Yeah, I don't think we need to get into banking business.

[1:06:34] If they want it, I think they should make other ranges.

[1:06:38] We're not the bank for them, and by opening that up, and they get in, and they get, you know, like default or whatever, then it goes out.

[1:06:51] Yeah.

[1:06:51] We are the city.

[1:06:52] I think we need to say up front.

[1:06:54] If you want to, you pay for the whole amount of front.

[1:06:58] And we're sorry about that.

[1:07:01] Okay.

[1:07:02] Fair enough.

[1:07:03] Randy, Lacey, how many do we have that are currently taking us up on this?

[1:07:07] So I want to get a scope of an idea, we have 30, Joan, we have 34 meters left to put in.

[1:07:17] So 28 meters left to put in our 480 that we had to put in, how many are in this sort of

[1:07:24] system?

[1:07:24] I don't have a right in front of me, but...

[1:07:27] Well, I'll be 15 maybe,

[1:07:29] and we've only had one person that's done payments,

[1:07:32] and he maybe did six.

[1:07:34] And paid it off.

[1:07:35] And paid it off.

[1:07:38] Some of them just recently been a cell in the last couple of weeks,

[1:07:41] and haven't paid.

[1:07:42] They do have one from last summer that's not paid yet.

[1:07:45] That's what I'm talking about.

[1:07:47] So, out of the 12...

[1:07:48] It was only, I think it was $359 and so on.

[1:07:53] So, it's like a 1.5 inch.

[1:07:55] It doesn't want to happen, yeah, and just face some kind of a time and everything.

[1:07:58] That was what the increase was.

[1:08:01] And then, honestly, I'm guessing they probably even got a problem.

[1:08:04] We've got some, or they asked us at one point.

[1:08:06] Did we ever pay that?

[1:08:07] I don't know.

[1:08:09] So it wasn't like it's there, you know, knowing what they're doing.

[1:08:13] They probably just forgot.

[1:08:14] That's my guess.

[1:08:15] They probably didn't even notice through it.

[1:08:17] Okay.

[1:08:18] But

[1:08:22] I did have something that just recently put in.

[1:08:25] and we

[1:08:33] said, I can't remember for sure, six months, maybe a year.

[1:08:37] Okay, so from one of them from Lacey and you, right, I do remember that now, the previous

[1:08:42] council did vote to allow that, but I think that if we do allow that, we need to attach

[1:08:47] a contract and, well, you decide.

[1:08:52] A contract, I think, is a no-brainer to protect our silence.

[1:08:56] That's why I appreciate Gary bringing that up.

[1:08:59] The only other question of the council needs to decide is if we attach any type of interest

[1:09:04] to that.

[1:09:08] I wouldn't agree with that.

[1:09:10] But interest for you alone.

[1:09:11] I 100% agree, but that's your choice not mine.

[1:09:16] So if that's a case, and I'm hearing that, and again, Colin, I see where you're coming from

[1:09:20] but I think the previous council's decision was to allow that more.

[1:09:24] We're going to say it from here on forward.

[1:09:26] I guess we could do that.

[1:09:27] You're right.

[1:09:27] There's not that many more abducted installs essentially, so we just say no more from before the meters installed.

[1:09:34] You know, the only thing with that is that if somebody finds out somebody got it and they don't, they don't.

[1:09:38] I think they would have a little bit of a way to say that.

[1:09:42] That'd be, you think?

[1:09:44] Okay.

[1:09:45] I can't see the situation when that comes out after anyways.

[1:09:51] I don't think so.

[1:09:52] No, so I'm going to have a case.

[1:09:54] How do we have the City Council meeting?

[1:09:55] Sure.

[1:09:55] right yeah okay so let's so here's what I'm hearing correct me if I'm wrong

[1:10:02] please please correct me if I'm wrong it sounds like we're we're willing for

[1:10:06] the last 34-ish we could have a few more than that we're willing to continue with

[1:10:14] the current status quo but we want to make sure that we want to make sure that

[1:10:20] moving forward there's a contract matter of fact I think we need to go back on a few

[1:10:23] of these that are still the haven't paid or so pay and maybe introduce a contract to that

[1:10:29] and then moving forward we can I think we're well within our rights to apply an interest if

[1:10:36] so does I do okay so the so there I've heard the number 5% is that are we feeling good about that

[1:10:44] we feel like that's fair and right Lacey Randy any thoughts on that for you guys what you've seen

[1:10:58] What do you

[1:11:04] want to do that? No motion's been made but I'll entertain a motion if we feel comfortable or if we want to have more discussion.

[1:11:10] Feel free to go

[1:11:16] forward if it's anything over the one inch meter we imply a contract with the five percent interest.

[1:11:24] Okay. I have a motion by Councilman Hansen as stated. Do I have a second? A second by Councilman Edwards. Any further discussion from the Council?

[1:11:36] Okay. All those in favor? He did not. Do you want to mention a motion?

[1:11:42] Motion amended to add a one-year maximum on the contract, calling you still on a second that.

[1:11:51] Councilman Edward, seconds that. Any further discussion? Okay, good catch. Thank you. All those in favor.

[1:11:59] All right. All right. Any folks? Seemed unanimous and there we are. Okay, here's what we're going to do now.

[1:12:05] We do need to go into close-session care to the man who stands and is laid to you out. I apologize.

[1:12:10] We got an early morning tomorrow, don't we? Yeah. But let's go through some unfinished business

[1:12:18] in a report of council members, then we'll go into a closed session. I need someone

[1:12:23] to make a motion to go into a closed session for the second one, number eight, and then

[1:12:31] that way nobody misses anything. When we come out of the closed session, I just state what

[1:12:36] the closed session was about. I'm for a purpose for it, but we don't state anything that's

[1:12:41] at a closed session so you won't miss anything. But I do want any council reports, councilman

[1:12:49] heads. I'm not going to call on the new ones because you don't have anything to report.

[1:12:52] So councilman heads it. Okay, so last meeting I was assigned to collect some information

[1:12:58] on major minor subdivision fees. Yes, thank you. So I contacted four surrounding cities.

[1:13:06] cities.

[1:13:09] Most of them are pretty close to the same. They charge a $250 fee for a preliminary

[1:13:18] subdivision.

[1:13:21] So $250 plus $25 per log. And then final, they charge another $250 plus

[1:13:31] $25 per lock. There were one, one

[1:13:38] that charged 300, flat rate, so a 300 feet for both major

[1:13:45] and minor. One city in particular, charged 3000, cool in count. And that covered preliminary

[1:13:56] final, any back and forth. Well, we're supposed to have an engineer review

[1:14:01] Yeah, they have racks, that kind of, that covers a bunch of air engineer reviewing on drainage and that kind of stuff.

[1:14:10] So anywhere from 200 to 300 was average and that one was 3000.

[1:14:17] I asked all of them and they all required the subdivisions to contain their own runoff water.

[1:14:23] They don't let anybody run their water into a drainage for the city.

[1:14:27] interesting. They all have their own French drains or catch pond. Interesting. Yeah, and these

[1:14:37] are cities bigger than ours. Wow, that's actually a very good information. Yeah, so I personally don't

[1:14:45] think we should go down a drainage point. I think that's a lot of money and a lot of headache for this

[1:14:50] small town because two of the cities are probably three or four times as big as we are. I think with

[1:14:56] the only drainage, hang on. I think the only drainage.

[1:15:00] Issue would be to shoot elevations for our not might be a benefit, but I wouldn't let some visions dump the water into it. Okay. Good point.

[1:15:13] Okay. We're going to hold questions to the end, just because we're going to go through. We're in our unfinished business portion. We don't have to put something in place. I know what they're saying, too. We don't have to be. So all that after means we hold and all these things, it's just

[1:15:33] So we put that on the next meeting to maybe adopt that.

[1:15:38] Yeah, where's unfinished business?

[1:15:39] We need to put it as an agenda item to do.

[1:15:42] All right.

[1:15:42] So are you, because I would just need to make these schedules,

[1:15:45] or are you suggesting 250 and 25 per year?

[1:15:48] Yep.

[1:15:48] You'll make that up.

[1:15:49] Okay.

[1:15:49] And that's preliminary and then another 250 or fine.

[1:15:52] Don't we need to approve that, though?

[1:15:54] And what we have to most probably approve of a fee?

[1:15:57] Oh, yeah.

[1:15:57] Okay. Okay. Perfect. Then if you'll get that out of the awesome. Thank you. Anything

[1:16:05] else councilman? Okay. Councilman Hammond.

[1:16:11] Family fun night. Yes. How was that? I thank

[1:16:17] God the Youth Council. Can't move on. I didn't have to do anything. I'm just sitting

[1:16:20] in my chair and grumped coat. It's better than that. Now the Youth Council, I wish somebody

[1:16:28] She was there to represent them.

[1:16:30] They did an awesome job and thank you very much to them.

[1:16:35] Was that Maisie?

[1:16:37] She was.

[1:16:38] Whenever it's their new group.

[1:16:40] That's awesome.

[1:16:40] But anyway, they did a good job and you passed that on though.

[1:16:44] Yes, would you please.

[1:16:46] There wasn't really too good of a turnout to that this year.

[1:16:50] Nothing like it was last year, but who was there?

[1:16:55] they started trying, it was good, good.

[1:16:58] Anyway, that's about all I got.

[1:17:00] Thank you, and that's appreciate you doing that

[1:17:04] and taking that on.

[1:17:05] Just a quick information, Gary,

[1:17:06] can I go in tomorrow with Gunnison City

[1:17:09] to the CIV to get approval for that planning

[1:17:12] for the sewer plots, right?

[1:17:14] The project that we're looking at there

[1:17:15] are the planning project, correct?

[1:17:18] So, just as I had something to tell you.

[1:17:20] Okay, Councilor Smith.

[1:17:22] Just brought the banner in for the tree lighting.

[1:17:25] At two of them made, we will put them on some kind of a float.

[1:17:32] Still put that together for the parade, for the harvest parade.

[1:17:36] And then probably following week after the harvest parade,

[1:17:41] we'd like to display them out on some on, so they can start to be seen.

[1:17:46] And I don't know if that is so.

[1:17:50] I just want to make sure everybody is okay with it.

[1:17:52] Yeah, I think it looks great.

[1:17:54] They know the date.

[1:17:56] They know the date.

[1:17:57] Yeah.

[1:17:58] They know the date of when that is.

[1:18:00] Yeah.

[1:18:01] Please.

[1:18:03] Okay.

[1:18:03] Lacey before we get to, I just want to tune in to council members.

[1:18:07] Here's an expectation.

[1:18:08] Okay.

[1:18:09] You have the opportunity to go to the R6 growth summit, which I think would be very,

[1:18:15] a very good thing for both of you to learn responsibilities and stuff. That is

[1:18:20] October 22nd, you need to sign up. Lacey, when you set their email, make sure

[1:18:27] that's one of the first emails they get.

[1:18:31] Whatever you want.

[1:18:34] Yeah, so let her know.

[1:18:35] There's a dinner at five and then it's from six to about nine. It's a phenomenal

[1:18:41] meeting. Here's the other option that you guys have and all the counsel has,

[1:18:46] including planning zoning if they want to go.

[1:18:49] There is a Utah League of Cities and Towns

[1:18:51] that is the next week, so that's on Thursday,

[1:18:54] the 22nd, it's the 3rd day, the 26th and 27th

[1:18:58] is a Utah League of Cities and Towns.

[1:19:00] That's in Salt Lake City.

[1:19:02] That's a two-day conference that the league itself

[1:19:05] puts on for all cities to learn some responsibilities

[1:19:09] and learn different things like that.

[1:19:11] we will put you in a hotel, pay your mileage and per diems for meals that aren't

[1:19:18] provided by the conference itself and we also give a stipend of $100 a day

[1:19:25] for attending that. We realize that most people, you guys are lucky we're retired

[1:19:32] but a lot of us work and if we have to take a day off work we need to, $100 probably

[1:19:37] It probably doesn't cut it for anybody, but it certainly softens it low.

[1:19:42] October.

[1:19:44] So, just want you to be aware of that, and would love, love, love to see any of the counts

[1:19:49] will be able to go to that.

[1:19:51] But the R6 one, we really hope that you would make that a priority.

[1:19:55] Am I missing any conferences?

[1:19:57] No.

[1:19:58] I was going to try to look up on the big website to see what the account is for, like, your

[1:20:02] registration.

[1:20:05] Okay.

[1:20:09] Lacey, sorry dinner up but what do you have anything? No, um I pass the

[1:20:15] disbursement out. I got one. You had it down there too. I did? Yeah. Okay. Um what is

[1:20:28] $14.908, and $14.930.

[1:20:47] Well, it's the one that's our centerfield city,

[1:20:49] and they're almost there.

[1:20:50] These aren't the amount.

[1:20:51] Oh, those are our secondary portions

[1:20:57] that are in our lives.

[1:21:08] I've only told you about our work programs.

[1:21:10] At least the remaining funds.

[1:21:18] It's a great question.

[1:21:19] It's just kind of hard, but they were almost there.

[1:21:21] Yeah, they were off my wallet.

[1:21:22] $68, or something like that.

[1:21:24] Okay.

[1:21:25] That's the kind of question I have on my mind.

[1:21:26] Yeah.

[1:21:26] I, yeah, and we talked about it in our staff meeting today, so I didn't, I didn't

[1:21:30] bad enough. I had it. I should have explained that. Good. Anything else, Lacey?

[1:21:39] Do you have anything?

[1:21:45] Okay.

[1:21:45] Joana,

[1:21:50] then I'll entertain a motion to go into a closed session to discuss pending

[1:21:55] reasonable, intimate litigation and or purchase exchange or lease of

[1:22:00] real property.

[1:22:01] I summon motion by Councilman Hanson do I have a second?

[1:22:06] Second by Councilman Hammond because it is a closed session we require

[1:22:12] roll call vote so what it'll happen is I'll call out each member of the Council that will give me a yay or a mayor and

[1:22:20] You know yes or a no in a sense and that will be recorded to go into this closed session. So Councilman Edwards

[1:22:29] Yes. Councilman Hansen. Yes. Councilman Hammond. Yes. Councilman Kern. Yes. And Councilman Smith. Yes. Okay. The time is 822. We're going to adjourn this meeting to go on a closed session. We'll excuse the public.

[1:22:43] Garret can feel stay.

[1:22:47] Give me your time.

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