[8:14] So, if you want to do the rule of view of the election,

[8:25] should say aye, no, no, no,

[8:29] no, no.

[8:30] I can't control the law, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I do.

[8:35] Well, if you may use this one and then this this number two, I'm just hoping John has to get to the meetings pretty far.

[8:42] I'm going to do the

[8:48] roll call,

[8:51] I'm going to do the roll call, I'm going to do the roll call.

[10:31] I think we need to sort of work to stay in this decision to do it, to allow all of

[10:50] us

[10:50] from the moment in the second week, to get to our idea of what it is, to stay and think about

[10:55] the rest of the things we said, to shape some critical cracks in the contamination we should not

[11:00] think about.

[11:03] We've also had, in the first time, traditional access here at Yale, we've been able to sort

[11:08] over the past.

[11:10] When we stop, we're going to be able to, of course, do a team that's really, really, really,

[11:13] There's a location, the access to the disaster, and all the stuff that means we're trying to accept this year and a half, as most of you are able to build that kind of experience.

[11:26] You know, you know, you know, we're talking to you.

[11:29] You know, we're talking to you.

[11:29] We're talking to you.

[11:30] We're talking to you.

[11:31] We're talking to you.

[11:33] We're talking to you.

[11:38] We're talking to you.

[13:10] It's the building wall, the human remains on the floor, and the view so that the view is so free to visit.

[13:18] We're going to realize that my suggestion for the council is that we're going to see the building.

[13:26] You need one and one.

[13:28] This way it's a great end of the problem on the side.

[13:30] We'll bring it forward.

[13:32] We want to give up the direction.

[13:34] That is much of the view of those situations.

[13:36] And we'll have it with you.

[13:38] Do you have any more information for me?

[13:39] Okay, David, there's two questions, first, good job.

[13:48] It's a beautiful building.

[13:52] Second, what's the lead time for the ordering of the refrigerators and how long before they have to be ordered them?

[14:10] And then the last question is educating me because I've always been confused in the subject.

[14:19] Ranson and Charles sound applied for this tire too.

[14:25] What is the city of Ranson's response of ability,

[14:32] relationship with that building?

[14:35] There are a rare word that I can ask you to move in now.

[14:39] So we need to connect the work of the 2006 or 2007, the majority of the NHS will see

[14:46] if you see any other interventions.

[14:48] For our time and months, we were able to deal with the rest of all the preparations

[14:52] that I've been able to do.

[14:54] So I don't know.

[14:55] There's more than any issues with the bill.

[14:57] So I'm going to try to see if we can connect.

[15:00] And for this ability, we want to do a much stronger, complete street rule or application, which was very exciting. We entered on the control of all three of the staff. Now, it doesn't make a nice complete picture because I'm just going to become a great, but it was designed so that we were able to, in the future, create a closer time here in the morning, get all of the things to do on the boss ride on the transportation, and come back and be back up here in the evening.

[15:30] it all, it was supposed to be kind of a walking world of transit stuff. So, we didn't have any

[15:36] connection to the rampant project, but I'm going to go to projects with Ian and the club together

[15:42] again at the club, but once upon a time, Ian went through the stage, you know, we applied

[15:50] the point, and we didn't want to worry about it, I don't know how we got to take it.

[15:55] But obviously the person can all spend the evening drinking during the dark, the point of the day, and the other day we settle down to this evening drinking, making it so that we have a road to the evening.

[16:09] So that's how to stay in front of the whole team all.

[16:12] That's the whole connection where you can have a simply, they were together with the brand.

[16:20] It's just the plan to be here and packing the wood, the back of the key, the back of the key, the back of the key, the back of the key, there was already a new estimate, but the company was keyed up.

[17:13] There's never any expectation that you really think that you're going to be doing it for a long time.

[17:23] You're going to be doing it for a long time.

[17:27] You're going to be doing it for a long time.

[17:29] If you have an issue, you're not going to either secure it, take the camera, or there's

[17:36] a backup security in the R&D box, so that's not going to be in the 90s or 90s,

[17:39] you're going to go to the R&D box.

[17:44] Okay.

[17:44] So, there was a camera, as much as we could do with the R&D applications,

[17:49] there's going to be a key to do with the R&D applications.

[17:53] Right.

[17:53] But that way, the nation may be able to maintain the operation for the market,

[17:58] whether that country could be the result of it,

[18:00] but it's never done.

[18:01] It was never designed to be a foreign country.

[18:05] I was so moved on saying to the open,

[18:08] and by the other example, it's very simple.

[18:12] It's the getting money that we would stand on.

[18:15] There's a more important point.

[18:17] It's important to us.

[18:17] It's important to the core.

[18:18] You make it really easy.

[18:20] It's important to the core.

[18:39] But originally when we applied for a matte apply for the 20 million under the, there's a

[18:52] that we would, in effect, not have to pay a fact, because we get 20 million out of a grant.

[18:58] But we've subsequently, we only got ten.

[19:00] Thank you so much for perspective.

[19:02] There's a little bit different than what David's saying.

[19:05] I know, I know.

[19:06] You can even hear what we mean to this decision.

[19:10] A little bit different.

[19:12] Out of the original type of grant, which was joined with Francis,

[19:16] we received, we got all the design and engineering done.

[19:21] all of the Canadians that we saw once we went through, we had four or five to

[19:27] two months ago, and they came back and changed plans. So this came out of

[19:31] that funding. We got all of that and had these great plans, we had this

[19:35] community support, and then we didn't get the project. So we as a city made the

[19:40] decision the mayor took a lead role on this, pursued a U.S. VA,

[19:44] low interest loan to fund the renovations.

[19:50] We went back to the plans to scale from down considerably

[19:53] for more paperwork, but I recall, to try to meet U.S.

[19:58] VA had a ceiling that, about one hundred and six months or so,

[20:01] that we worked with them because they, that through that,

[20:04] revolving loan funding, we pay four certain things or a certain level

[20:09] amounts of certain parts of the project changed for that, and then the council made the decision

[20:17] I, you're presenting video, lottery, I'm not sure that it matters, but how does funds,

[20:23] but it was to be part of our capital improvement in what I understood, and just notting.

[20:29] It was supposed to come out of our capital improvement funds from here, so we were committing

[20:32] high dollars to that, but the statement he's making that we never have the idea, the building

[20:40] and have been in bed shape for 20 years.

[20:44] It's a publicly owned building,

[20:46] and we as a community should be setting the example

[20:49] for the investment in the 9-down town,

[20:52] not being part of the problem,

[20:54] and have been a long-assstanding problem.

[20:56] The long was a good solid funding source for it.

[21:00] We found where our expectations was.

[21:03] I wouldn't say to not generate any revenue from the building,

[21:08] But certainly was not to necessarily be generating enough revenue to cover that, that known at the time of the decision made.

[21:17] It was understood, it was now, it was part of the decision we were making.

[21:21] My friend did not support it for that reason because he didn't, he didn't, he didn't agree with the philosophy behind it, which is a provocative.

[21:30] But that's my historical perspective.

[21:32] Do you really want to add anything else that's not clear?

[21:36] I agree, and you can see that the previous council, the plans and everything that have

[21:42] gone forward, it was for the market, the coffee shop, the visitor center, my feeling has always

[21:51] been, that's a community building, treated like a community service, just like we provide

[21:59] all the other services to our citizens.

[22:01] That's a community service that building,

[22:04] to have concerts, art shows, natural products,

[22:09] here around, this is the service to our community.

[22:13] And this is how the plans were made.

[22:16] And I don't think if we look at it trying to recapture

[22:20] that cost, that's this.

[22:22] Well, I'm looking at what plans I'm in there clear the mark.

[22:25] visitor's center in one bay, market in the center in restaurant. Very general, did we get

[22:30] the end of this question on that? Not really, but that's generally why even now I'm a little

[22:37] thrown because it's not exactly what we're talking about at this point, but those were general

[22:43] estimates. And that's what I was asking. And it really did because I just wanted to find out

[22:54] that since I've only been here for a year,

[22:58] was the decision made when we applied for a million

[23:02] that we would be putting effectively

[23:05] 200,000 dollars a year of in some way of our money.

[23:10] And I believe it started decisive.

[23:12] I think I would have gone with Shadow on this one.

[23:15] But I didn't, I wasn't here.

[23:19] But I will accept the decision as if it was made.

[23:45] So now that we know all this failing when we get to number three we know we have to increase

[23:52] their revenue, by extending our borders to help pay us pay that capital.

[23:57] A couple of questions.

[23:59] So when is the first payment to you on the law?

[24:02] You go, where are you going?

[24:06] So that's not coming out of the general revenue.

[24:09] That's coming out of your capital.

[24:10] So the capital fund is budgeted similar to what your general revenue is.

[24:46] When you learn about the process, we use care to cure all over the existence of the schoolwork.

[24:51] We give you some of the right examples of the outreach.

[24:54] And for us, we need a discussion when we do it.

[24:56] The comment is playing at the same time.

[24:59] If you're seeing it, it's starting.

[25:00] We need you to show your own education.

[25:02] All of it is done.

[25:03] We need you to show all of it.

[25:05] We need you to show all of it.

[25:06] So, we try to find out what time it's ordered or passed in.

[25:10] When you do it, when you do it, when you do it, you can see it.

[25:12] You can see it.

[25:16] You probably have to have this question before, so we're going to do it.

[25:21] We have two people here, and we're going to do that.

[25:28] The mind is saying it was a video of gambling.

[25:31] So what's going on in the CFP?

[25:33] Does it have to be a lot?

[25:36] Yeah.

[25:38] Yeah.

[25:40] Yeah.

[25:42] Okay.

[25:44] That's what I said.

[25:45] So the video lottery is in our general point right now, so you had it just paid $300,000

[25:53] from the table games. This is purchased in your 17.

[25:58] You had it just paid $300,000 per table games.

[26:03] And all that stuff was right up to CFP.

[26:07] So we're going to be moving up coming here.

[26:12] We're going to be in a sales tax and we're going to be buying.

[26:14] But we have to do this.

[26:15] Just a little bit better.

[26:16] Just a little bit better.

[26:17] Just a little bit better.

[26:18] Just a little bit better.

[26:23] Just a little bit better.

[26:26] I'm just asking you, can I just bring 300,000 dollars per year?

[26:32] But you're slowly getting, just getting, getting, getting, getting.

[26:35] It's been additional 200,000 sales tax going to that same fund for a total of 500,000.

[26:46] It should be more.

[27:23] So the question, you said, we're at the point now where we need to know, we have funds

[27:29] remaining in that loan.

[27:32] We need to know whether to buy creasers or to what to do.

[27:35] Do you know how much money we have left in that?

[28:13] So potentially decides to pass them back and not use it at all,

[28:17] how long are our expenses moving forward?

[28:20] So that's going to be critical information.

[28:24] So I understand that in the comments if you need a committee,

[28:28] to try to wrap this up and try to get it together,

[28:33] or just finding its committee work on it with remaining funds

[28:36] and bring it forward.

[28:38] I think we really need this day called the groups to be involved.

[28:42] I think a committee might not be with that idea.

[28:44] I mean, I have a real interest in being involved in this.

[28:47] I have strong opinions because I actually

[28:50] own them similar size to the structure here in town

[28:54] that I renovated and was certified as a historic renovation.

[28:58] You know, I've been through this.

[29:00] I've lost 10% of that to bring you new tenants.

[29:03] But structurally, this is evolved to different kinds in terms

[29:08] of what we're looking for.

[29:09] I think there are very great ideas here.

[29:13] I think that the idea of the visitor center

[29:16] means to occupy so much space.

[29:19] I think that was good thinking.

[29:21] I think the market is a brilliant idea.

[29:24] I like the gap, coalition concepts.

[29:28] I think we need further development of it.

[29:31] And I don't know that that happens here in this type of a venue or a meeting.

[29:36] I think it happens on a smaller scale where something a little better could be brought forward

[29:42] to us so it makes real decisions when we know about money and things like that.

[29:48] I will say two opinions I have that kind of straight from the norm maybe.

[29:54] I always saw the rest room, which was the only way we ever caught it.

[30:00] I have a full service anchor tenant to the building that would be private pay at a market rate. That's not going to get a study. We're close to paying the whole thing. That's understood, but we made that decision. I was part of that decision. I understood that. But I think we need to look at some revenue generators in that building.

[30:19] And my concern with the rest of John is there are very few spaces in downtown Charles Town.

[30:28] One of them is in my building where you have a real full service foot with a virus

[30:34] and a pressure system and the capability to run a full service restaurant.

[30:39] And the position has to, I mean, I think, you know,

[30:42] this is a public problem, but it's a really

[30:47] marketable asset.

[30:49] And I know this, because I just lost a restaurant and had

[30:52] to go through the process of trying to attract anyone.

[30:55] And I think we would be under utilizing an incredible asset

[31:01] by not seeking something different, but I think there's lots

[31:05] of ways, I think that all has to be discussed with the

[31:08] coalition. I think some different ideas it may not be where we can go immediately. It might be the kind of thing that would have to be a long-term strategy for us to try to position a cellster attract.

[31:20] Even a farm to table restaurant that can work, you know, very collaboratively with it.

[31:26] The other concern about that space is if there's going to be food service for events on the second floor.

[31:33] There's going to have to be some access for caregivers, so how do you work out the private versus the catering aspects of it?

[31:41] This building has no furniture in it. That's a little bit of a problem.

[31:46] In terms of seating, there's a lot of things that still have to be discussed.

[31:52] And I think the anchor gap organization is a good way to go.

[31:57] I just think there are a lot of questions coming from a lot of corners and to move it forward

[32:02] with that, that's those stakeholder groups in that different venue around the table.

[32:08] The other strong opinion I have is that because of declining revenues, we are not funding a lot

[32:15] of organizations, but we have this resource available to them, potentially as public space such

[32:23] as the old opera house was heavily involved in all the stakeholder meetings, leading up to the development of these plans.

[32:30] So we have an opportunity to have some regular and robust use of that second floor.

[32:36] The question is that would that be willing to be the manager of that space and how would it be that would be for it?

[32:45] There's a lot of organizations that we need someone to do the scheduling, you know, I know

[32:53] Gap has said they would even, I don't even know that's a visitor center, but I'm thinking

[33:01] if someone in a no-touch is here tonight, someone from the arts community because that's

[33:07] going to be using the second for the most for art shows for concerts and different things

[33:14] a lot of those avenues.

[33:16] So we don't have to stay up here to do all of that.

[33:21] So the more we tell, the more I think we need to have a little committee that incorporates

[33:26] gap and some of the artists that's going to be involved, council members here, somebody

[33:31] from the finance committee, I answered she would like to serve on it.

[33:36] just get together and hash out some of these things that, you know, that we need what we'd

[33:43] like to see. What I'd like to see tonight though is just that I'd like to have a level of comfort

[33:50] that everyone around this table feels that you may not agree with it, but you feel that

[33:57] Are you going to make it?

[34:00] I'm so embarrassed.

[34:02] You may not agree with it, but it is because you, first of all, it is a community building.

[34:11] And at least for a year you will give it a try with these organizations to see how it's going to run.

[34:18] Even if it's a short term lease, one of the other reasons is we just established a sea town, arts and cultural district.

[34:29] I mean, speeches, where this is their anchor, you know, and then to maybe not, you know,

[34:36] charge rent and not say that what we plan to go in there is not going in there. It would

[34:43] be very embarrassing to me who's been out there promoting this all the time. I just like to have

[34:51] a level of comfort that we know that that's how we did the plans of previous council

[34:56] that you know we have the capital improvement funds that you would give it a try if we get

[35:04] this committee together and get it worked out and we can tell you who's going to schedule

[35:08] the advance who's going to be in charge and there's another thing that and I know when I

[35:14] talked to Todd for or he said well that's just the plans that we had. We've got that beautiful

[35:19] kitchen. That's an incubator. That's an incubator that lives in downtown. They can afford to have

[35:28] the space immediately. And across the nation, if you get on the internet and pull up the incubators

[35:35] that are going on across this country, it is amazing. People that own restaurants,

[35:49] when their

[35:49] We can do it right there. That's an incubator to grow our city.

[35:55] So just have a nod or say give me a opinion.

[35:58] I want to know how you all feel.

[36:00] There's people out there who want to know how you feel.

[36:03] Can I give my a few?

[36:05] I'm just kidding.

[36:08] But yeah, I've been through this.

[36:12] I'm in one hundred percent.

[36:15] Oh, I'm in a jar.

[36:16] Oh, shit.

[36:17] And of course, in Nebraska, I was going to work there, but the farmers market, the gap,

[36:29] hammering the, and really that area for the farmers market is small, it is.

[36:35] And I thought the Todd said that he wasn't going to put the council, the refrigeration in there,

[36:41] because of the limited space.

[36:44] but apparently he didn't put it.

[36:46] You said you just didn't put it.

[36:47] He's always stuck out.

[36:49] Yeah, I know it's spectacular.

[36:55] But if you look at all the vendors up on same industry,

[36:59] you're not going to get them down there.

[37:00] So somebody has to make a choice.

[37:02] And that's going to be the gap I would say.

[37:04] I'm going to be making a choice.

[37:06] So how's that going to work when when

[37:13] One vendor wants to come in there, and all know you can't do that because we're full, but you can come in next week, or how's that going to work?

[37:21] Yeah, let me explain. Let me explain what the guess vision is with respect to space and Charles Washington Hall.

[37:29] This is not necessarily a farmer's market. It's a grocery store.

[37:33] It's essentially a co-op grocery store in which local growers and producers would have the ability

[37:42] to sell their produce and whatever in a grocery store type setting.

[37:47] So that would be the need for the refrigeration and freezers of time.

[37:50] It's basically just a small, locally on grocery stores.

[37:55] It's not to your hall farms bringing in their truck and selling their own port.

[38:00] They may offer those, you know, their meats, but it would be just a small grocery store.

[38:07] So they didn't have to have some food, so I'm not really sure.

[38:10] There's going to have to be, there's going to be, there's going to be, at least one,

[38:15] there have to be basically one whole time employee, along with other people within the coalition volunteering their time.

[38:24] someone's going to have to be, you know, checking people out.

[38:27] Sure, sure.

[38:28] And stocking and stuff like that.

[38:30] The walls in there, they're not going to go up, correct?

[38:33] I don't think we need it.

[38:34] If we keep with this client, I think we're fine.

[38:37] Well, if we're in the restaurant, and if there's a wall there,

[38:42] between that and the farmer's market, in order to use the restaurant,

[38:45] you're going to have to go outside, come all the way around,

[38:48] they threw.

[38:49] Probably the partitions weren't ordered either, right?

[38:51] the glass partition between they want to be, too. That's on hold, too.

[38:56] So we can figure that out. You're right. You have the access to the restrooms.

[39:00] It's only too big, too.

[39:02] It needs to be figured out, but I think it can be like complicated ideas.

[39:09] It's the point that I think you certainly can be.

[39:12] But the other question piece of information in addition to what's left in the grant

[39:16] that I would like to understand is

[39:19] I always thought that we would see our operations in my head.

[39:26] That visitors' center was relocating.

[39:29] Now, we've sort of scaled back what exactly they're doing here.

[39:32] And we would no longer be paying for the overhead

[39:34] on the facility in Rouse Hall.

[39:37] But it's now my understanding that that may not be the case.

[39:42] Because I always thought that the artist co-op

[39:46] and the visitors' center was all moving as whole.

[39:48] when we would stop making that space on the Rouse Hall,

[39:52] thereby freeing up some money from our budget.

[39:55] Again, don't know who told me that.

[39:58] Don't have it in writing, but just curious about

[40:01] what our deal is with Rouse Hall.

[40:03] Are we obligated to it?

[40:05] Or can we walk away from it?

[40:06] I don't even know.

[40:09] And I certainly don't want to do anything

[40:10] harm the artist co-op in any way,

[40:12] but I don't think they've been a player at the table,

[40:15] And any of this that I'm aware, what we mean in the design, but because of the space issue,

[40:24] because the market means extra space in a second base, so it's something that has to be worked out.

[40:31] Well, the way that's laid off, the farmer over on the Visitor Center, the front part of that is plenty room for the Visitor Center.

[40:40] So then you have a step up and then you have another one over it, right now and as I said, when I told I think some of the artists got very upset when they were told they had you going to have to get out and I'm going away in a minute.

[40:53] We never voted on anything like that.

[40:55] We need to talk about this.

[40:57] Again, we just established an artist and we don't want to make everybody lose their home, but if we decide that we're going to do something with Ross Hall,

[41:06] Then we do have that second part of the visitor center.

[41:10] I love when I go to a visitor center and there's things for sale there.

[41:16] Produced crash by the local people.

[41:18] Of course, we've got camera, she's coming back here.

[41:23] And they're talking about setting up, you know, like a little outpost for Tamara.

[41:28] We've got a perfect spot for that.

[41:32] But we do have the other building, and that's just what I said the other night.

[41:35] Nancy Stevens is looking for a place in a that would be a hundred dollars a month

[41:40] but you to me I look at these buildings as community buildings if we can offer service

[41:48] just your air citizens. So you are always under the impression we would continue to

[41:52] need to act and try a rouse hall? Do you want to say? You were always under the impression that

[41:57] we would continue to to act and try a rouse hall in some line and take to the take of that space

[42:07] That's what I always thought, I don't even know exactly what we've had in my place for

[42:12] that place now, but my head is somewhere between two and a week or a thousand dollars.

[42:19] For Rousal.

[42:20] Just for the rent, yes.

[42:22] There's the bus, there's you.

[42:25] Who owns the building?

[42:29] Okay, we pay 1,400 to the building commission.

[42:31] We don't need to talk to each other.

[42:33] Time to make you announce the building.

[42:34] We don't need to.

[42:35] We lease it back for so many years.

[42:38] I mean, it's, well, it's our building

[42:40] that we have to, he did all the renovations, millions of dollars,

[42:44] and we lease it back for this, what's it 30 years?

[42:48] Yeah.

[42:48] Oh okay.

[42:49] We all will pay us a good war for him.

[42:52] For his life.

[42:53] You'll pay us a good war.

[42:55] Ah.

[42:58] So, so there's no way we're not,

[43:00] being we're we're in that least for 30 years anyway so my concerns are unfounded. We're still

[43:06] going to pay for that building too. I'm just talking about what I've had in my head. It sounds

[43:12] It's like I'm not right.

[43:19] The mean.

[43:23] Okay.

[43:34] Now that's some sort of agreement we have with the CVB.

[43:38] We have our least agreement with the CVB.

[43:41] What do we get out of that that we they staff it and no charge right and we've had the benefits of them of just

[43:51] What what's there?

[43:54] What consideration do we provide now?

[44:07] I would just, I guess I would just, I would just like to, I would like to know all of that.

[44:13] So I would, I would, I would be going into any kind of a community or something.

[44:16] I would like to understand how that's tied and what I would like to see the leases.

[44:21] I would like to see what I would like to see, I don't know that I need to see the lease.

[44:24] I mean, if some of you just summarized the terms of it,

[44:27] and the cost associated with it, is this so we have a minute?

[44:32] I just think it's a piece of the whole thing,

[44:35] because all of the stuff comes out of the gap of the time.

[44:38] All these leases that we're paying.

[44:40] Not, not Ralph's Hall.

[44:42] It comes out of the limitations.

[44:44] I have a general problem with the building.

[44:46] I just want to talk about that.

[44:48] No.

[44:51] One more question in terms of the CIP, this thing is too loud.

[45:00] Is our roughly, he said, we have budgeted about $400,000 a year in the CIB.

[45:11] That is your original potato game, this money, you bought it in a 300% potato game, that is the one game that you have.

[45:18] But your original 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010, 2010.

[45:25] So the money is there, are there any other outstanding obligations under the profile of the CIB?

[45:33] Do, is there a police car that's not going to be bought?

[45:36] or anything that we can't pay for along with the 200,000 and rent a year.

[45:45] If the issue is that the building commission took the money for the obligation of the city,

[45:51] it was going to pay for that service, meaning that if for some reason the city counts on the side,

[45:56] but they didn't want to pay the service anymore and the building commission has something.

[46:00] So, when you're out of group K-200,000, you can have a supplement, but the first of the first two

[46:06] I've got a lot to ask for me, and for some of them, so let me ask for me to do my training

[46:12] here, but I don't want to keep that in mind, but that's in this question for a while, and I'm going

[46:17] to try to do this again.

[46:19] Now, with the next 100,000, and more training that I've got to do, but I'm going to do this

[46:24] for this one.

[46:24] Okay.

[46:26] Yeah, okay, now with that let me give you a law history to please on from the fire hall.

[46:34] The Washington Street artists were located on Main Street in Trostown.

[46:40] The owners, while they have now passed away, are the owners of the building, lost the building,

[46:48] All of the artists, they had no place to go, and Jack was already using part of the building for the Arts Council.

[46:59] So out of the goodness of our hearts, when they had to leave, we tried to keep them here, so we let them move in at the visitor center,

[47:07] Because, you know, as we give half of their tax money, hotel motel tax goes to the Visitor Center, and they stay at that building.

[47:20] So, that building had the Visitor Center in it, and Jack, in the large showroom.

[47:27] So, we just moved the Washington Street artist in there to give them the space to let that business survive, instead of losing it completely.

[47:37] That's how they originally got in there.

[47:41] Then I would like to say that, I guess, whereas I would, I would have agreed with

[47:45] that.

[47:46] And I still agree with that tonight on his decision, we're into this, we, but what would

[47:52] make me feel good, and we all know my opinion on what I think should go in there.

[47:57] But I think I would be more comfortable with two committees, one committee of the council

[48:04] that has extraordinary, extraordinary power to make decisions about what to do with that

[48:13] bill, what to do, leasing, and all like that on a day-to-day make decisions, and then

[48:19] another committee that is formed with the gap and the council and all like that.

[48:25] But ultimately, the council controls what happens to the bill.

[48:29] And that would give us the ability if something's not working to make immediate changes through the council.

[48:38] You know, it could be a council, it could be a committee of two or three.

[48:42] I don't care.

[48:43] But I think we need to have be able to deserve some authority kind of on an immediate basis

[48:50] and make the changes that do need to be made.

[48:54] and get that committee or that committee in a power to do that.

[49:01] And you're saying the changes that need to be made.

[49:04] You're speaking of the refrigeration and the regulation.

[49:08] Who leases if it's not working out?

[49:11] If there's a conflict of what to do with the second floor,

[49:16] literally any decision that needs to be made in the building?

[49:20] I know where you're going when I don't disagree with you, especially during term because we're talking about new organizations and take some time to sort of soon grow and become formalized in all those things.

[49:33] But I think the long term, what you have is what's typical in some kind of situation where counseling may be built into their violence and have representation on their board, so that you have that kind of fluid connection that there's certain reporting requirements, maybe that's the city.

[49:49] But what you're talking about sounds important to me like I don't think I think once we get something that we're comfortable in place with I think my community is probably not going to be a good idea

[50:04] I know we have an alternate responsibility for short because we're spending the city's money

[50:11] on what's happening, we don't like what's happening. It's very easy for one group to come to

[50:16] one council member and say, hey, this group actually needs to go through 90s and we've even

[50:22] had that with the little visitors. That's happening many times, so I understand what you're saying,

[50:29] but I think you need to empower one group to be.

[50:33] But could you empower it to, you know, I'm talking about a three year timeline for this committee.

[50:38] get it started for three years and watching over it very carefully.

[50:43] And then transition it.

[50:45] And then I think we can impose whatever kind of reporting and authority that we ultimately decide as a body we want.

[50:55] But I think we're not close to that.

[50:58] Yeah, I think I think I'd like to make this idea of getting a community together and having a community of me,

[51:04] and try to idea something, you know, do you think I think a smaller group to be able to

[51:14] sit down with Gap and make sure the artists are free and get these some of these other

[51:20] information, you know, make sure that those information knows what's going on and the

[51:29] I can live with that, but I would like to have some ultimate.

[51:34] And I know we have it as a council, but I would like to have some ability to

[51:40] ultimately say the council's decision is final.

[51:43] I think that's essentially what is being proposed.

[51:49] What I hear is a committee made up of, you know, for example,

[51:54] of and the mayor and somebody from staff or whoever, I don't know if it's somebody out in

[52:01] the public.

[52:02] Somebody from the building commission, but small committee of people, do then refer this

[52:08] you just like any other committee, what's in the city council.

[52:12] Right?

[52:12] You guys are working on a micro level to have conversations with gentle stakeholders in the building

[52:19] and determine its end use, at least for the beginning.

[52:23] You know, from the beginning forward and to make certain decisions and then bring those recommendations to the council.

[52:30] All right.

[52:31] Don't we already have that with the building commission?

[52:33] I mean, why do we need these committees to put to me?

[52:37] And should you be responsible for that?

[52:41] No.

[52:41] You're the landlord.

[52:43] I'm sorry, but you are the landlord, and you should be.

[53:13] I think if we can structure it like Jonathan and hand side, but I would like that and I'm

[53:19] back in their zone, so that the council ultimately holds control and we're able to make

[53:25] decisions.

[53:26] I think that's automatic.

[53:28] I mean, we have that, I do.

[53:30] We're here tonight and we're talking about the projects when we, you know, we're

[53:34] filled out it.

[53:35] You know, UK, you say.

[53:38] We can, we can build that in.

[53:40] We're also, you know, delegating some responsibility to a smaller body because these are

[53:46] issues necessarily that we want to be having at a city council meeting every month to discuss,

[53:53] you know, how things going on, Charles Washington, all what decisions in who we're going to put in

[53:57] there, that's definitely a committee level. Community discussion or report, right,

[54:02] just a brief report of what happened. But my thing is like, and it's already volunteered. If some

[54:10] member of the Finance Committee would like to volunteer, and then the President of the Arts

[54:17] Tisch and also Joe, who is President of Washington, Street Artists, get there the people

[54:23] that are really involved, and we'll just get down and hash it out, and we'll bring things

[54:29] back for approval from the council.

[54:42] You feel better now, Mike?

[54:48] As long as we feel, as long as we structure it so that we have ultimate authority.

[54:55] I don't know if I can debate your decision with me, right?

[54:57] No, I have to be mad at myself.

[54:58] Well, yes, it goes in, but I don't know what to do.

[55:03] There will be where we're going to do to look at the least.

[55:05] Look at the money company.

[55:06] What's it kind of costs to finish it and bring all that back for council approval or deny

[55:13] whatever.

[55:14] It was forward and we have to successful and the market is successful.

[55:21] The amount of oversight may be less over time.

[55:26] I mean, we mean, you know, but sort of like this age of eight or just that may be a gold mine force really down the road because if like I said it is across the nation, so let's let's give it a try.

[55:41] I think there you have also what the dead is that we covered in the lease agreement, whatever that was.

[55:50] We're... I'm sorry.

[55:51] Excuse me... Did you want to... did you need to say something?

[55:53] We're reading this and I'm so glad that I found out that the chair has done it.

[55:59] These were the things she had started to say about it.

[56:03] I used to say that I wanted to make it.

[56:05] And I wanted to make it a real thing.

[56:09] I didn't even know what to do.

[56:12] I didn't even know what to do.

[56:15] And I ended up saying what you said.

[56:21] Because there are the news,

[56:32] And we don't know things like that as a council body. In terms of the logistic of hanging

[56:43] art, that's something that the artists need to tell us. I don't know the best way in which

[56:52] So the stakeholders are going to have to be involved and be able to tell us that and give us some comfort that we're not, you know, damaging the structural integrity of the bugging by hammering nails into 200 grow bricks.

[57:24] He hasn't told us what the fun bound to the mom is yet, so we might get to, and then find

[57:30] a place to store, so I think there's a point for the guys to work for them, that work is

[57:36] enough.

[57:37] So, we've got the idea of how I'm going to take a, there is a day, falls on the way to the

[57:42] middle of the world.

[57:44] The place to work day is to change the way.

[57:46] So, once you bring your hand, if they're in the car, they're going to take you out from

[57:50] the door, unless you take all the things.

[58:34] Just a quick question. I know one concern that we had before was a private business using the space and being subsidized by the cities.

[58:49] that still in the works,

[58:54] in the certain coffee company, you know, there's concern that if

[58:59] we have a private enterprises part of the gap that we need, the city is subsidizing a

[59:04] private business and which is selling a product against other businesses already going

[59:12] on town.

[59:13] I think it's something that should be discussed after that.

[59:16] that was for sure, and for sure, my favorite concern is wrong term to be under the utilization

[59:23] of that space. That's my favorite thing.

[59:26] And the committee needs to discuss that with staff, right? Because they have, you know, their

[59:32] idea of what it should be and how it could work in the city of the committee may say, no, and

[59:37] recommend that the council not approve that, or that may be okay with it. They may say, no,

[59:42] and realize what he wants the space, what he's willing to pay the city for that space,

[59:50] and then the city can determine whether or not it's willing to.

[59:53] But I think Nick makes a fair point and the sun's dead.

[59:57] We have to know when you open.

[1:00:00] Any new business, whether it's on this level or not, because you've got a market for it. And do we do we have a market or not for that type of business given the type of businesses we have there? I think that's really the discussion more is, you know.

[1:00:15] I think, too, to the next point, which I'm glad you brought that up, is because, like,

[1:00:21] in that coffee shop, helping me talk about, I have nothing for, I guess,

[1:00:24] that we're taking the coffee company.

[1:00:25] But at the third given in the van, it's over there.

[1:00:27] I don't have to pay the rent or whatever the rent is reduced.

[1:00:30] But definitely, I understand what you're saying is a balance there.

[1:00:34] But I think that would certainly have to be a consideration.

[1:00:37] The other thing is, are we actively looking for restaurants?

[1:00:41] How does that work?

[1:00:41] I mean, oh.

[1:01:14] We can't wait to have a two-step radio station.

[1:01:19] The time we've heard of the last two-step radio station.

[1:01:21] Don't worry, it's common in the world.

[1:01:23] And we can't have a two-step radio station.

[1:01:25] We can't talk about the radio station.

[1:01:27] So there's a really good line.

[1:01:30] So if you guys can get a start,

[1:01:32] you can get a start, and get a start.

[1:01:33] We can't talk about it.

[1:01:35] But I ask John,

[1:01:39] since the gap's not here tonight.

[1:01:42] And what is their level of commitment?

[1:01:43] I mean, they're not here tonight.

[1:01:46] I mean, what are they-

[1:01:48] Well, they also organization has shared any commitment

[1:01:50] in stock, dying in the base.

[1:01:52] I know, but they-

[1:01:53] Aside from the arts.

[1:01:54] Do they have, they had said that they were going to have their business plan.

[1:01:59] Have they developed one in corporation papers?

[1:02:03] Have they looked for any financing?

[1:02:05] What, how much skin are they going to play in the game?

[1:02:09] Well, they'd probably been meeting by weekly for over a year discussing their meetings, working

[1:02:21] collaboratively with the city in order to make that come to fruition.

[1:02:26] They're working on setting up a 501C3, and they're electing the balance a little bit, obviously

[1:02:32] by having worked with city and then now being up in the air, whether they can use it.

[1:02:41] So, you know, they're obviously, they've fled together in business plans.

[1:02:45] They're not business people per se.

[1:02:47] I mean, this is a new venture for them.

[1:02:49] But at the same time, they're also, that success with the farmers market.

[1:02:53] But they've also visited several models of types of businesses.

[1:02:57] These set-ups, they research that they've gone out to them and set down with other people who are doing that.

[1:03:06] We got to think too long-term, and this is huge trending for community, too, to go in this direction,

[1:03:13] and this potentially even attraction for funding that's out there and available to community to have these under resources and these market aid ways.

[1:03:23] So, you know, there are some really good long-term benefits to it, but I think those, I think what you're saying is they're basically an in-pass until we reach out to them at this point, and they put a lot of work in and so it's time, it's past time, that we do this, and you know, some people that sit down at a table and say, we're in this book, we've got to talk about the details, we're over there.

[1:03:51] I mean, they're doing what they can right now and trying to move forward is what they can.

[1:03:55] They certainly are in the past in terms of use of the space.

[1:03:59] But, you know, they're going to have their 501-C3 status.

[1:04:02] So, if they're going to work with another journey on that, they're just very busy.

[1:04:07] And, um, he's good looking.

[1:04:09] Not me.

[1:05:04] And that's what's tough is, is determining what's room or what's fact, you know, because you just hear things and make assumptions and, you know,

[1:05:12] I don't know where I'm going to show you all of the moves that I have a connection with where I'm going to try to play with it.

[1:05:17] The issue with these more efficient ammunition is that the signal has to be by our own equipment,

[1:05:26] because you need to have these old equipment.

[1:05:29] I've got five of them to teach it to both of them.

[1:05:32] I don't know how they can use it in the kitchen and wherever they need to.

[1:05:37] If so, I don't know how the space is going to be in the access station.

[1:05:41] I think we're going to look at the idea of the idea of the idea of the idea.

[1:05:44] I think about that as I want to show you guys what we're going to do on this.

[1:05:48] In the past, if you were going to be talking to the kids, we've got to go to the office.

[1:05:53] If you're going to talk to the kids, we're going to try to do it.

[1:05:57] It's just that the idea of the idea of the seat plate was that the chair was going to be in the house.

[1:06:02] I think you're well aware of the idea of the light.

[1:06:04] And I would say that the model that we've seen in the past is that it takes a few years of liberation to bring these guys along.

[1:06:12] The last piece that we have to come in and share with you.

[1:06:15] Our own discussion.

[1:06:17] We've talked about the grant.

[1:06:19] It's a market rate.

[1:06:20] It's kind of the whole process.

[1:06:22] That's kind of an answer.

[1:06:24] It's kind of just a new person talking about that.

[1:06:26] We're only talking about it as an account.

[1:06:28] We actually say,

[1:06:29] Today we have to look at the whole system of the world,

[1:06:33] and I think that there will be a lot of opportunities

[1:06:37] to make a relationship with the world

[1:06:40] to make a connection.

[1:06:45] We'll be able to do that.

[1:06:46] We'll be able to do that.

[1:06:48] The first thing we can do is to make a connection.

[1:06:50] We can do that.

[1:06:51] We may be able to do it.

[1:06:51] We can do it.

[1:06:52] Okay, I'm just kidding.

[1:06:55] I'm just kidding.

[1:06:56] I'm just kidding.

[1:06:56] I mean, I'm comfortable.

[1:06:58] We've had a quick conversation, I'm comfortable with going into the negotiations with the

[1:07:06] gap.

[1:07:07] But we do the fact that this is going to be a three-four-year process.

[1:07:13] And I think now we can start asking, you know, business plan, financial plan, you know,

[1:07:21] where you're going, it's long-term strategy that they can start really working on that so

[1:07:26] can get this space filled.

[1:07:29] This quickly is possible, but I'm also, as long as the city, we have some good oversight

[1:07:37] for the next two to three to four years during that incubation process.

[1:07:43] I think for the city, the doubles in the details.

[1:07:46] I'm less concerned about the city having oversight over the long-term financial goals of the

[1:07:52] and to whom they at least this property.

[1:07:55] I'm more concerned about the terms of the lease.

[1:07:59] You're talking about a kitchen using as an incubator.

[1:08:02] Do you rent the property,

[1:08:04] a kitchen out to a restaurant in bear-by,

[1:08:09] eliminate the possibility that can be used for events

[1:08:11] of stairs, or to use as an incubator

[1:08:14] and have an empty restaurant?

[1:08:16] These are issues that you need to address

[1:08:19] that the committee at a committee level utilizing

[1:08:22] what ever business savvy they have to come up with creative terms on a lease that address

[1:08:28] the specific issues of this building.

[1:08:31] And there's a lot for you.

[1:08:32] Thank you volunteer to serve on this committee.

[1:08:34] I can't really necessarily.

[1:08:38] So, we're somebody from get me's to be on this.

[1:08:42] So, maybe it's also.

[1:08:43] I may not be the best person, but I just find my interest in it because I'm talking about issues

[1:08:48] that are difficult for me to grasp the grass, we get my head around.

[1:08:52] I would like to see somebody that has a better understanding to have them maybe able to do

[1:08:57] a sister better than me.

[1:08:58] I thought you had to go back to your board and they need to decide who's going to

[1:09:00] drive the center.

[1:09:01] I'm really not going to be able to do that.

[1:09:04] How do we move forward on the committee?

[1:09:06] How do we move forward forward forward forward forward forward?

[1:09:08] Well, I was going to say, if you move on to another topic, we put it on the agenda for you to

[1:09:35] And I'll have, I ask the people,

[1:09:37] Keshe, I think I want to know more comment before we get to the point.

[1:09:40] I had this video to share with you that you think that I was thinking that I was all in a wish

[1:09:49] to be able to do the other side of the road.

[1:09:54] And then when you go back and have to have the resources to expand,

[1:09:59] and I'm going to be right there to figure out how to do that.

[1:10:24] And give you an idea of how well this was seen, see, by the way,

[1:10:33] in your day.

[1:10:36] They sold 12 benches at $500 of peace, and we keep the benches to go through out the community

[1:10:45] that for the $500 people get a plaque with their name or organization, they sold 12 of them.

[1:10:51] I mean, just a bad opinion, bad advice.

[1:10:55] So people who loved the arts, they thought they were beautiful.

[1:10:58] I have WHAG here, and she got so enthused with the benches that that's what they showed most

[1:11:05] the day, the three benches and cut out all of them, the interview, but anyway, we need to get

[1:11:10] up. I will put together tonight. Can I ask you just a point of order? Only been here

[1:11:16] for a year. What is a mayor select committee and will the weather be a majority of ours?

[1:11:24] I know.

[1:11:27] All right, Mike, I won.

[1:11:28] Yeah, I know.

[1:11:30] But what is will there be a majority of council members on the committee?

[1:11:37] No.

[1:11:37] No, it can be whatever you see once it should be.

[1:11:40] It's going to be.

[1:11:41] You don't want a huge committee.

[1:11:44] It will be, like, couple council members,

[1:11:47] stay at the arts community, the gap,

[1:11:52] And they were select an individual from each one of those groups to serve on this committee.

[1:11:58] There may be two staff members, maybe to be gave and definitely hard, because husband working with this building,

[1:12:04] he needs to be included.

[1:12:06] And wants to, just going to be the finance man.

[1:12:10] The representatives of the committee.

[1:12:16] We want to, we want to, we want to, we want to, we want to, we want to, we want to,

[1:12:22] Okay, we're ready to move on well I could I get one more thing like John said the

[1:12:28] police and you might have three entities and let's say the bottom of it's

[1:12:34] if you just want to maintain the structure as far as clean stuff like that is that going to be

[1:12:41] at each individual police. I mean you only got one restroom in there and you'll have a

[1:12:56] There's a lot, there's a lot of details that's a huge concern, I mean it's an issue that has to be addressed, things like that.

[1:13:03] We have to think of all those things and be sure to incorporate them.

[1:13:18] value of the system like the roof.

[1:13:23] We do that.

[1:13:25] We do that.

[1:13:25] Well, we do that.

[1:13:26] They do the planning, but we're kind of the floors like them.

[1:13:31] Every week, we do that.

[1:13:34] No, we share it.

[1:13:36] We share it.

[1:13:37] We share it.

[1:13:39] We share it.

[1:13:41] We share it.

[1:13:48] I'm going to the bathroom for the office.

[1:13:51] We're going to take a short break.

[1:15:00] Thank you very much.

[1:15:01] Thank you very much.

[1:16:50] I think I have to be mine as right here.

[1:16:53] You thought I was just a pretty thing.

[1:16:55] It's me out here.

[1:16:58] I think I should be in the house.

[1:17:01] And you saw that.

[1:17:03] I've been to the house a couple of years ago.

[1:17:36] I was when we started the STEMilership, and I finally looked at students in the school, and I said, oh my God, I used to be here.

[1:17:46] Okay.

[1:17:48] I'd like to add you by different upper halls.

[1:17:51] For instance, there's a big community in front of the STEMilership, and sounds like they're in the hospital.

[1:17:57] Oh yeah, yeah.

[1:17:59] Well, and you know, we keep hoping that we can convince the town, I mean the county council.

[1:18:05] to commissioners to use them.

[1:18:08] There's a huge amount of apps, yeah, just end up using them now.

[1:18:11] Yeah, yeah.

[1:18:11] I mean, let me out there.

[1:18:13] Yeah, right.

[1:18:13] I think the room, the one thing that is stored there is very little, like,

[1:18:23] and we can write this, this is just space here.

[1:18:27] That's big space.

[1:18:28] I think that's a lot of the space.

[1:18:30] Oh, yeah.

[1:18:31] Sorry, I don't think the work is going to be right.

[1:18:33] Well, I'm sort of what we need to do is first off you have to find some sort of little cards

[1:18:40] I think you can put chairs on that will fit in the elevator so you can take them out

[1:18:47] And then you take it back down

[1:18:51] Do you know some stuff?

[1:18:53] Some building here in the city that we own

[1:18:57] That we can store stuff

[1:18:59] And I think these curves are going to have to do that.

[1:19:02] And I said, that's what we're going to do.

[1:19:04] It is a job.

[1:19:06] Yeah.

[1:19:06] Especially when we have three lines.

[1:19:07] But you can also, you can also charge people who use the facility.

[1:19:13] But in the cars, they're doing it.

[1:19:15] Right.

[1:19:16] That's what we're going to do.

[1:19:17] We will deliver you.

[1:19:18] You can remove you.

[1:19:19] You can remove your chairs.

[1:19:20] The tables from lots of gems and nuts.

[1:19:23] Or people provide them with such and such and whatnot.

[1:20:02] to the first five in the years.

[1:20:05] So, in part in the session, we're here in the entire world

[1:20:08] and you can see right on the ground.

[1:20:10] We have a lot of mental health and childing services

[1:20:12] and appointments for us.

[1:20:15] The problem is that we need to be safe

[1:20:16] and trying to provide a lot of tools

[1:20:18] and other things to do with this problem.

[1:20:20] And I don't know if we're able to work in the area

[1:20:22] but it would change if we were to share

[1:20:24] and see services.

[1:20:25] But it would work a lot to do with the environment.

[1:20:28] So, first of all, we're seeing a function

[1:21:59] the existence of a city I have done in a relationship with the city and the city itself.

[1:22:04] That's what I can tell you.

[1:22:05] It should be right in the mirror.

[1:22:07] Before we're here, it's a city that we can't have access to.

[1:22:10] There's also a connection.

[1:22:12] That there will be two other departments.

[1:22:14] And then we can reach a certain intensity about it.

[1:22:17] And you will be able to get your community open.

[1:22:19] Over the walls.

[1:22:21] It's a success.

[1:22:22] We're close to a lot of our offices.

[1:22:24] We're going to have a chance.

[1:22:25] We're going to have a chance.

[1:23:09] And I also did a few years ago, and I was trying to figure it out, and I was trying to figure it out.

[1:23:21] And I also did a few years ago, and I was trying to figure it out.

[1:24:26] having known there is having to be walking into general goods, the only real work area is to

[1:24:34] teach the average period of the long period of your life.

[1:24:37] We have a specific job, we have a team, a single mission, a group, a group of all of them,

[1:24:44] and a group of your family members.

[1:24:46] We have all of their group, and they have to attend seven, four, a group of type, four, a group of

[1:24:53] and a group.

[1:24:54] So we were basically in adjacent to which Clark has been made, they had a founding

[1:27:29] and the people who work closely and who are doing the track

[1:27:34] and the culture, meaning, you know, the track and things like that.

[1:27:40] Those are the things you want to do over the weekend,

[1:27:43] as well as having a few dollars, as they also need to do the track,

[1:27:47] you know, the tools for the cost, for duty,

[1:27:50] and the things that they're doing, and the things that they're doing,

[1:27:51] and the track, and the things that they're doing,

[1:27:54] these are changing, and I think that's part of my quality,

[1:28:28] There are organizations, of course,

[1:28:30] and to the Eastern section of your group group.

[1:28:34] And they have some more to look at.

[1:28:35] So you should have some kind of support,

[1:28:38] and you should have some kind of support, and you should have some

[1:28:40] You're going to have a lot of them.

[1:28:41] And then you go up, and this area, you're going to need

[1:28:43] a special economic.

[1:28:44] So I'm going to give you some sort of community

[1:28:46] and see how these people go to the public, too.

[1:28:48] They're not angry.

[1:28:50] It's not going to allow you to say some sort of community

[1:28:52] of institutions.

[1:28:53] You don't have to have a community.

[1:29:56] For us to see you for the Father, let's see you next time.

[1:30:07] How long is it going to change?

[1:30:14] I don't think it's a simple stuff first, as we're developing this development platform.

[1:30:24] We're about to share some of that.

[1:30:26] The question you didn't have is the post across the country.

[1:30:29] It's those of my own economy.

[1:30:31] But the city is providing services on it.

[1:30:35] So I mean there's really no additional cost to make sense.

[1:30:39] and the people are benefiting from the city service.

[1:30:44] It's a minor agenda to have a developing country.

[1:30:49] I think of the city of Auburn,

[1:30:50] it seems like it's something that could be difficult.

[1:30:52] So I think we need to know that we are all in the organization

[1:30:55] to talk about what we're going to do.

[1:30:59] So we're going to just come out in the year of the city.

[1:31:03] We need to know what we're going to do.

[1:31:05] So I was wondering,

[1:31:05] And the rest of all, we have, you know, you're making a good job of asking me how to do it,

[1:31:11] but you have to kind of appreciate that situation.

[1:31:14] That's the only thing I say to you.

[1:31:16] If you have any assistance on your head, you don't have to ask me to ask me to do it.

[1:31:22] I don't know. I think if you would get to the point where you were,

[1:31:25] I don't know where you were, I don't know how to do it.

[1:31:27] I don't know how to do it.

[1:31:28] But if you don't do it, you don't have to do it.

[1:31:31] If you can't do it, you can't do it.

[1:31:40] I think it seems like the easier ones we want, you're ready to take care of those.

[1:31:45] And then I love them to help them play because I'm getting some sense of force that you say to people that you know the area that's in the background.

[1:32:36] So why is that happening? And why is that, I mean, the agreement with the Urban Girls family, the

[1:32:45] I'm reading agreement is that if a project comes to the county that's in our urban

[1:32:51] ghost boundary, or Riansons or Shepherds towns or I don't think Valver or Harvestary

[1:32:57] have one agreed upon anyway, but that they come to us first

[1:33:07] and maybe that's just the

[1:33:09] philosophical idea behind it, but I think that level conversation needs to be the starting point

[1:33:16] because how many more of these are going to happen?

[1:33:19] I mean, there's, there is, there is, at the end of autumn, of course.

[1:33:22] And there is, I don't know where this, of autumn is, and there's two, right, on 340.

[1:33:29] And we found that through, and by the same token, I think that we need to familiarize ourselves

[1:33:36] with the 340 corridor study that the county did a few years back to understand that that one

[1:33:41] to a very public process for people so that we can see the work that was done there and

[1:33:48] understand what their vision was for the corridors so we can be sort of respectful on those

[1:33:53] sides. I just I don't understand why we're not there's gotta be some disconnect with us

[1:34:00] the county on the planning level for that not to be in happening.

[1:34:30] I think we can't have any signs to hear you.

[1:34:32] You were not a good job.

[1:34:34] We're not a good job.

[1:34:35] You're a good job to be in a city.

[1:34:36] We love to see what I call a good thing.

[1:34:38] I know what, yes.

[1:34:40] I won't be in a condition after as we got any resources.

[1:34:44] So I don't think we can take care of this.

[1:34:45] Why do we talk?

[1:34:46] Okay.

[1:34:47] So how do we fix that?

[1:34:49] Because let's just...

[1:34:51] I mean, I don't know what we can use your example.

[1:34:55] But of course, we've got to put together the...

[1:34:57] say it was the benefit package here. I mean, why are all of your neighbors in the county

[1:35:03] in the suddenly pay? I don't know how much more in Texas. It's probably not a whole

[1:35:08] heck, oh my god. It's pretty minimal, but there's still going to be a portion of the population

[1:35:12] that says, no, I don't want to pay, I don't want to say anything. But I mean, my understanding

[1:35:18] is that's not because it doesn't have to be a decision. No, no, no, I know it doesn't, but you

[1:35:23] And we buy them to do the best.

[1:35:25] We have to combine with the city's providing the service.

[1:35:30] Sure, I agree with the people I kind of want to know the numbers.

[1:35:34] And what the services are.

[1:35:36] We're going to have to put together.

[1:35:38] You know.

[1:35:40] Like a heaper.

[1:35:41] So we've got to show.

[1:35:42] What about our marketing first?

[1:35:44] Yeah.

[1:35:44] What?

[1:35:45] I'm marketing person.

[1:35:46] Yeah.

[1:35:47] How all this together.

[1:35:48] Just say this.

[1:35:50] Oh, can I?

[1:35:51] Whatever it means to have the city to get moving.

[1:35:53] Yeah, I agree with both of you, but

[1:35:59] Charles Town looks like a piece of Swiss cheese.

[1:36:04] It just does.

[1:36:06] I think we need to take the hit for

[1:36:10] one or two of these processes spread it out.

[1:36:14] First year we're going to do XML and fill in the element holes.

[1:36:18] And that's our explanation.

[1:36:20] We are going to fill Charles Town out completely.

[1:36:23] make it one contiguous land mass and the other thing is, please don't forget the west side.

[1:36:32] We have is the only part of this town that is asking for annexation because we have huge numbers of dilapidated and vacant structures that are sitting in.

[1:36:43] And then oil company, and a real-team company that are sitting in the county, so there's taxes there, too.

[1:36:51] There may be other things sitting in the West, yes, that are not paying taxes, that are a drain on the community.

[1:36:59] Oil company is not.

[1:37:01] I won't say anything, they're a good neighbor.

[1:37:04] But there are a lot of people in the West and they're begging for annexation.

[1:37:09] It's only a small slice, and actually you can go, I don't want to take it off the willow.

[1:37:15] I don't want to take the other thing out there on 51, but consider the West End when you're doing this.

[1:37:24] Let's make the whole thing called.

[1:37:26] And I think one of our things is just going to be, we're just doing it so that, you know,

[1:37:31] every time I give a presentation, I gave one Saturday, and I put my map up there,

[1:37:37] and people just their draws prop when you say this is in Charles Town, this is not in Charles Town and the whole Jefferson Avenue situation is just ridiculous.

[1:37:49] And I think we need to just say let's do it.

[1:38:41] We're all saying the same thing.

[1:38:43] We need to do three things.

[1:38:44] This is the focus of what the annexation should be.

[1:38:49] One, filling the holes, right?

[1:38:50] I'm taking the rich, bring a lot of fruit here.

[1:38:53] Let's, uh, three things.

[1:38:55] I don't want it.

[1:38:56] I don't want it.

[1:38:57] I don't want it.

[1:39:00] We have to fill in the holes, right?

[1:39:02] It's a no economic benefit necessarily to add the rest of crosswinds

[1:39:07] add needle, add the needle, whatever, but we just have to be done. It doesn't make sense. It

[1:39:13] needs to make sense. That's kind of the second thing, too, as well. It needs to, it needs

[1:39:17] to make sense. It should be a lamb mass that is obvious. That is not, yeah, you can take this,

[1:39:25] right? There are obvious places where we should go and connect the dots. In three, we have to

[1:39:31] look at strategic locations that are going to actually make money because the first two don't

[1:39:35] to do anything for our revenue stream.

[1:39:38] I miss number two.

[1:39:40] Well, film a hole in two is kind of working together with the first one to say.

[1:39:45] It just needs to be a common sense of approach.

[1:39:48] I think it can all be done at once, right?

[1:39:50] We draw the lines and say this is everyone that falls within this line is now going to be a part of the city.

[1:40:07] So if we were running into a computer which well on the side of the computer, we would have to go back to the club, but there are a number of people waiting to out, but they're not going to see it.

[1:40:31] And that's a great question for you.

[1:40:37] Within that map, the parts that are white along the highways.

[1:40:45] Would we take those because I know that police chief had some issues and he wanted us to think about that too.

[1:40:52] So we would take everything.

[1:40:53] You would be able to incorporate everything inside of the server,

[1:40:57] and you could be learning and you could go to a local community

[1:40:59] and come to the local community.

[1:41:01] I'm going to show you how to switch off all the opportunities

[1:41:05] to where you're running on the server side to side

[1:41:08] to do the dance.

[1:41:10] If you need a slow, we can explore the policy

[1:41:13] and I'm going to show you three things.

[1:41:16] You're ready for a two-year-old who's in here.

[1:41:18] You're ready for the action.

[1:41:20] Well, now let's not have that.

[1:41:23] because the West End contributes to, and we do have businesses.

[1:41:28] Well, you know, you're going to do some taxing when you pull parts of the 11 new land.

[1:41:33] You are going to grab some things that you don't know are there, and you've got a five tank

[1:41:38] oil company that is right within the railroad tracks in the eastern, you can't see it.

[1:41:46] But there's a lot of revenues there, and then eventually with portions of the West End

[1:41:52] development. You're going to want parts of that.

[1:42:03] Just draw the line. Just go all the way out to the sheets, right? Right. Go all the way

[1:42:11] out to the window crossing. Go all the way out to Cattell Run. Go all the way to the train tracks

[1:42:18] on the west side. Well, and all the way down the hunt field. Well, remember that. If you go all the way

[1:42:23] the western end we're going to own the Tusco-El Hills. I don't want to go all the way out there.

[1:42:28] Jay, Jay, Jay. He's got up.

[1:42:31] He's got up.

[1:42:32] He's got up in point.

[1:42:35] He's got up there.

[1:42:37] He's the main one to call it the worst part of every light.

[1:42:40] I like the eastern.

[1:42:42] We need to start with the eastern. That's where there's the roof.

[1:42:44] Oh, I'll say it.

[1:42:45] If you didn't get the eastern area, you'll all get up.

[1:42:48] Down the floor.

[1:42:48] If you didn't get the eastern area, you'll all get up.

[1:42:55] How far does that western area go?

[1:42:59] That's just the train tracks, right?

[1:43:00] And that goes behind Lucas Hill.

[1:43:02] I guess from Hunfield back to Lucas Hill.

[1:43:05] I don't know about that.

[1:43:06] Because you don't want to test who will our life is now.

[1:43:08] What are the chances for it to be shot here?

[1:43:10] Is it true or true?

[1:43:12] Well, you can literally go on, you can literally go out to the cold storage room.

[1:43:19] That's all on the...

[1:43:22] Right, you could...

[1:43:24] But I would like the Western...

[1:43:26] I would like the...

[1:43:27] I would like the...

[1:43:27] ...I would like the...

[1:43:28] ...I would like the...

[1:43:28] ...the...

[1:43:28] ...what would something like that cost?

[1:43:39] ...which I can tell all of what it tastes.

[1:43:51] We don't have to, we don't have to, we don't have to, we can be simultaneously doing the

[1:43:57] minor and boundary adjustment. The redevelopment plan is really to redevelopment

[1:44:03] It's not for that. It's not for that. It's not for that. It's still me from marketing and buying.

[1:44:11] You have to have them with the existing customers.

[1:44:13] It's fabulous.

[1:44:15] And I'm just going to say to the people in the United States that we've got a good

[1:44:17] little more to do with the next ones that I work with for the years.

[1:44:21] When you need it, you can totally develop how you're doing into like large landowners.

[1:44:26] And saying, because of our hands, we work with the workers and landowners on an designed

[1:44:32] and designed for your property and nature to develop in a way that is city by state.

[1:44:39] We're going to do this infrastructure, because now we have no money and dollars.

[1:44:43] So you're countering, you're saying that the three development plan has to come first.

[1:45:03] That may sense. I mean, if you look at, you know, we don't want this to be received. At least I don't. I don't see it this way. It's not a land grab. It's not going out and taking the two nine trials and so that we can get the revenue from the two nine trials. It's the two nine trials. That's the two nine trials. That's the serious age on it. And eventually it's going to be me about it. I don't know. Who's been in the United States. But that's where you're coming to the United States.

[1:45:30] this region of our planet is saying, when you, when you all are ready to do this, this is, this is what, this is what we're looking for.

[1:46:30] It's the reason you don't have to be a part of the rule.

[1:46:33] Change your rules because of this student development

[1:46:37] and the primary and primary system, the next guy,

[1:46:40] and you're going to have to join in different concepts

[1:46:43] and the development, and you basically have that

[1:46:45] this one and the development and the structure.

[1:46:48] It's very interesting to realize that you're going to start

[1:46:50] with a machine that's going to have that kind of work.

[1:46:54] And you're going to go all the way to the next.

[1:46:56] And there's a lot of things that you can start with

[1:47:03] I have two of them all saying, because I don't know why I have to be all over the world.

[1:47:08] That's my thing.

[1:47:10] You said, if you were to be there, that's not true.

[1:47:14] You know what I mean?

[1:47:15] You know what I mean?

[1:47:16] You're not here?

[1:47:17] The people who live in the city of New Jersey are here.

[1:47:20] And you're standing there for our children.

[1:47:23] Thank you.

[1:47:41] I'm not sure I'm on the city telling me what your plans are when I am in the property

[1:47:50] and I'm waiting to see when the hospitals are coming up.

[1:47:53] How much money do you have?

[1:47:54] I am trying to be value, I'm trying to also,

[1:47:58] if I have a system based on the way I say it,

[1:48:00] I'm trying to prove it, and they come in and say,

[1:48:03] I'm trying to prove it, but what do you guys say is in the past?

[1:48:06] But when we talk about, when there's five of these items,

[1:48:09] I'm trying to prove it to you.

[1:48:10] Here's some idea that if we get more of your item,

[1:48:14] if we get more of your item,

[1:48:15] if we get more of your item, of course,

[1:48:16] okay.

[1:48:16] Let me show you a suggestion,

[1:48:18] it says, here's the demographics of that item.

[1:48:20] This is just, can't we do that now?

[1:48:25] I think the difference here is a difference in philosophy that says that we're trying to

[1:48:30] position ourselves to attract a certain type of development.

[1:48:34] Just taking it in and solving a general commercial means they could put the exact same thing

[1:48:41] and as long as they need our city ordinances and anything goes, it doesn't show a plan for

[1:48:47] the area.

[1:48:47] And that quarter looks like it does now, because there's no context given to the entire

[1:48:56] quarter.

[1:48:57] So, you know, a gas station here, you know, you know, there's no harmony, but it's not

[1:49:05] you.

[1:49:05] But when you fill, if you fill in the donut holes or the Swiss cheese, that's clearly

[1:49:12] within what is, could be considered urban trowel sound.

[1:49:18] And I have no problems with that.

[1:49:21] And I think we've kind of understood how far out of Western

[1:49:24] and we'd like to go.

[1:49:26] You may call storage out that far, especially since you have

[1:49:30] that Davenport slabble commercial sound property right there.

[1:49:36] And that would work, I think.

[1:49:38] But here's my question.

[1:49:39] goes to the mayor. A lot of that land is still farmland. And there are a lot of farmers

[1:49:51] who still are going to farm that land. How does this work? And it goes to hands marketing

[1:49:59] plan and her concerns because they're going to say, why is it my farm now in this town?

[1:50:07] Okay, so the good direction.

[1:50:09] Our own zoning ordinance, which was adopted in 2004.

[1:50:15] Okay, is that we have one of those properties that are taking in.

[1:50:20] We have, we have kind of a holding zone.

[1:50:22] They can be zoned, something like a large farm.

[1:50:26] Yeah, I suppose to be able to call it, it's a call.

[1:50:27] Or reserve.

[1:50:29] Or reserve.

[1:50:30] So they can continue to farm their lands.

[1:50:32] And come back to us when they have actual development plans for zoning

[1:50:38] I don't know that we're really talking about what we're interested in,

[1:50:39] but I don't know what we're talking about.

[1:50:42] But that's the marketing plan that we have to make sure

[1:50:48] that we explain.

[1:50:50] Oh, for sure.

[1:50:51] It's pretty close here.

[1:50:53] That's there.

[1:50:54] Like, we're sure.

[1:50:55] Question, though.

[1:50:56] We're at that important.

[1:50:57] We'll be right up here.

[1:50:58] You're right.

[1:51:00] Question point on math, though.

[1:51:02] Like, I don't know that we're really talking about what

[1:51:06] we're interested in doing what I'm most interested in doing is the Eastern area and the

[1:51:12] tracks out from Mount Pioch, and so I would almost want to chunk out that Western area

[1:51:19] and it's a different, two different terms. My main concern is feeling in the whole year, but I think

[1:51:27] That's what we're talking about.

[1:51:32] Right, that's for sure.

[1:51:35] But I think that lower half of the Western area

[1:51:37] I feel the same way about, especially with the engineering

[1:51:41] we're doing on the trail, along that.

[1:51:45] We've got to connect that middle part of, obviously,

[1:51:49] now that it's really critical for the West End as well.

[1:51:53] What's in on 340 is good, and I am absolutely agree with them, absolutely agree, because I believe in one of my concerns with the Western revitalization is that we will trigger growth of people that will come in to the West and crowd out many of the people that live there.

[1:52:16] And that development along a gusting avenue out the Huntsfield is a perfect place for growth.

[1:52:25] It's a perfect place for the trails to emerge up.

[1:52:28] It's just a perfect area instead of pushing a huge amount of development into the West End,

[1:52:35] where we could be pushing people out.

[1:52:37] So I fully agree with that.

[1:52:38] Are you talking about?

[1:52:46] You're talking about

[1:52:48] Yes, yes

[1:52:49] I'm saying

[1:52:50] One person

[1:52:52] Yes

[1:52:53] I'm feeling a little bit different

[1:52:57] I'm feeling a little bit different

[1:53:01] You're not taking any

[1:53:04] I'm just having a test roll

[1:53:08] That squirrel's in the green and yellow though.

[1:53:14] So you're going to divide the restaurant and use the railroad.

[1:54:02] I mean we are ready all the oranges in our city limits now.

[1:54:10] Yes. And the yellow. Anything has to do with the right.

[1:54:18] Yes.

[1:54:36] It's going to be a farm for a long time.

[1:54:41] John Burns and it's going to be for a long time.

[1:54:46] I'm concerned about.

[1:55:16] Okay.

[1:55:16] This is one area where we did identify what's happening.

[1:55:19] We need to cooperate with different groups and we need to get arrested.

[1:55:23] If you've got a lot of land, we need to cooperate with our team.

[1:55:28] These are the areas we have.

[1:55:29] Do you have the, the zoning to stay or the traffic?

[1:55:34] Do you have the zoning to stay or the traffic?

[1:55:37] Is this going to be the basic idea that we're going to play?

[1:55:41] Okay.

[1:55:42] All right.

[1:55:42] So how do we approach, if we concentrate on the eastern area, how do we go and what is the procedure from start to finish?

[1:55:54] So for instance, if we want the eastern area, let's just take this area here. Obviously I know Red is already.

[1:56:02] how what is the procedure in contacting

[1:56:07] windmill crossing and saying, guess what?

[1:56:11] Welcome to the city.

[1:56:12] How are they already?

[1:56:13] They are.

[1:56:14] No, that's the townhouses.

[1:56:16] Windmill crossing is nice.

[1:56:17] So how does that happen?

[1:56:20] How what is the procedure where we go into,

[1:56:23] you know, here where we're

[1:56:25] and talking about most of that.

[1:56:28] Exactly.

[1:56:29] We have three people.

[1:56:30] We're here.

[1:56:31] we have 1,000 people. So when I want to be crystal clear in

[1:56:36] is how do we say we're mil crossing welcome the Charles town?

[1:56:42] How do you say no because the people I know I don't see using your

[1:56:52] example in southern crosswinds. Okay. They're they're really is going to be

[1:56:58] little benefit for them to end. If I'm living in here, why would I want to be in the city

[1:57:04] drums?

[1:57:05] I don't think that you're never going to sell it home. Except at the point that you are

[1:57:11] benefiting from city services.

[1:57:14] For free, why would I want to pay for it now?

[1:57:36] And we can, that's that's why we'd be crystal clear.

[1:57:39] We can, we can just go ahead and take it.

[1:57:40] Do I understand that correctly?

[1:57:42] I mean, okay.

[1:57:47] Okay.

[1:57:48] Okay.

[1:57:58] Okay.

[1:58:00] It's going to have to be more than that, because let's face it.

[1:58:05] They're not reading the spirit of all of these people.

[1:58:09] They're not engaged locally.

[1:58:11] They're feeding out of the area.

[1:58:13] I mean, we know all of those hurdles

[1:58:15] to allow them when we do here.

[1:58:17] So it's going to take a social media six months.

[1:58:23] It's going to be three times that.

[1:58:24] There's no way we can do the Eastern area in six months.

[1:58:28] I think you.

[1:58:29] How is it?

[1:58:30] You should have a good idea.

[1:58:31] You should have a good idea.

[1:58:33] You should have a good idea.

[1:58:33] Oh, I'm pretty sure.

[1:58:34] Yes, I can do it.

[1:58:35] I should have a good idea.

[1:58:37] But the party, what are you going to do?

[1:58:39] You're going to ask for a good idea.

[1:58:41] How is it?

[1:58:42] I don't have a good idea.

[1:58:43] I like to do a bit when we develop a plan.

[1:58:45] I got it.

[1:58:46] How does a great development plan?

[1:58:48] How does that to sell out to the customers?

[1:58:51] That's it.

[1:58:52] That's it.

[1:58:53] That's it.

[1:58:54] All I'm saying is there's going to be some hard enough.

[1:58:56] Right.

[1:59:27] And that's just about what you're on, and that's the way you're on the right, and it's about the street, and you're right on the right path.

[1:59:34] But the whole street guide, you know, we're going to have a word, and we're going to speak for permission to talk.

[1:59:39] That's the same kind of thing you need to know to say.

[1:59:41] It's not like that in the year.

[1:59:43] But that is what we're talking about.

[1:59:44] We're not going to ask you to do that.

[1:59:47] If you need to be right, I'm going to give you a job.

[1:59:49] You don't want to talk about it.

[1:59:50] The reason we have to do something like that, I don't want you to do it right.

[1:59:52] Because we don't have all this incorporated.

[2:00:13] We have to be careful, too. I mean, because if we will be subject to being looked at as doing some kind of land grab, we do have to have the county commission at least open to the idea that we are going to have to go to the city council.

[2:00:31] and some level politically.

[2:00:33] And I think the way to that is, this is good planning.

[2:00:38] This is good planning, this is cooperative planning,

[2:00:40] this is managed growth, this is collaborative.

[2:00:43] This is not how we're doing it now, which is-

[2:00:46] I mean, is that argument work with anybody

[2:00:49] that we've ever had in discussion with on planning anything,

[2:00:52] injection kind, I mean, holy cow?

[2:00:56] But that's what this is.

[2:00:57] It's a big difference between the annexation by petition

[2:01:01] Francine that happened in the early 2000s during the thing

[2:01:05] and what we're doing here.

[2:01:07] This is proactive planning.

[2:01:12] It's not.

[2:01:14] It's the argument of the makes sense.

[2:01:16] Just go to the United States.

[2:01:19] Right.

[2:01:20] I agree.

[2:01:21] It's good planning, and it makes sense.

[2:01:22] It's also about that.

[2:01:23] But it could be for the economic development plan.

[2:01:27] this is a great map. Again, I say whenever I show that map that I have, that I got from

[2:01:37] the result from the press, that actually shows the Swiss cheese. It's shots people. That's

[2:01:45] the map that we should be concentrating on. And the story, which is absolutely true, is that

[2:01:51] going to fill Charles County and it's going to be complete.

[2:01:55] Now, going out, going out then we can use the economic arguments.

[2:02:02] But we, I think this council needs to take the hit for this one,

[2:02:07] at least for the Swiss cheese part of it, and just simply say that we decided

[2:02:11] that we're going to make Charles townhold and make give it.

[2:02:16] And in any way, shape or form, show that map because it's so obvious we're providing water,

[2:02:23] we're providing our snowblow or snow tractor trucks.

[2:02:28] People see that they literally stop in front of their houses, literally what, backed up.

[2:02:34] And you're not getting the services.

[2:02:36] And they come in with us that there will be a load of city services that they will be getting,

[2:02:40] including better police protection, snow, water, sewer, we have a big, I have very good story to tell.

[2:02:51] But I think for the, at least the donut holes can take you as we need to just say we're going to make Charles town.

[2:02:59] Okay, and that's a good one. Okay, and that's a good one.

[2:03:03] Okay, and that's a good question. It's far, Liz.

[2:03:05] Okay, I like to just focus on the eastern area where are we water and sewer lines?

[2:04:07] All right, that's the other question, so we can say welcome to Charles

[2:04:11] Do you have the door-born leave situation where you're playing your paying PSD?

[2:04:16] And this system has to stay down right to the end.

[2:04:19] But we're fighting, but that makes the marketing much more difficult.

[2:04:40] That's what we're trying to do.

[2:04:43] And any new, I know we have the 700 customers that are PSC.

[2:04:48] But any new development does that automatically become

[2:04:52] in the future.

[2:04:53] to the city,

[2:04:57] and therefore we are going to be stabilizing, possibly lowering our water

[2:05:02] sewer, rains eventually over time.

[2:05:05] We're still getting water from Chesapeake.

[2:05:07] We're going to put again one or two or some of them together.

[2:05:11] Last thing is, I didn't even use them.

[2:05:14] It's the photograph of it to write about it.

[2:05:16] This is how you use both of them.

[2:05:19] And then we add the end and end, end, end, end, end, end, end, end, end.

[2:05:22] And the end is that the water is in your shell.

[2:05:25] I'm not very, very, very much.

[2:05:26] I need to look it and some ordinary memory.

[2:05:29] I think you need some sharp holes.

[2:05:31] It is 200 pounds.

[2:05:32] So I think we're going to wear our arm.

[2:06:07] But the cause is the thing to say that at least the cost benefit ratio, at least for the eastern area, would be relatively good, correct?

[2:06:19] I mean, the revenue that we would be able to collect compared to the cost to police it as an exam.

[2:06:28] doing it now, yes. Okay, would be annotations as a head minimum. Yeah, so providing you're

[2:06:35] also talking about, is it really mostly commercial people? I mean, it's been there

[2:06:39] as a bunch of letters and with that, which means you're service level. I mean, I think

[2:06:45] the answer to the hand and the hand corridor free is going to be a heck of a lot easier than

[2:06:50] these areas, but I, I, I, I sense that this is going to be way more difficult. I mean,

[2:06:57] called the EM corridor, but I sense that this is going to be a lot more difficult than.

[2:07:04] I recommend it maybe, it's fantastic to look at, okay, what have been minor adjustments

[2:07:10] to fill in the door holes?

[2:07:13] Again, it's a development, so maybe it just can't be closed, okay, this is how these are

[2:07:19] kind of looking at the filling in the holes, and also the reward, this is what we asked

[2:07:24] proposed to do is to don't apply for the Eastern hand in that cap stop.

[2:07:28] No, we can't kind of look at it and say if there were how many people ever talking about

[2:07:31] for one.

[2:07:32] Yeah, we need to have to listen.

[2:07:33] The minor adjustments, okay.

[2:07:35] So what do we talk about?

[2:07:36] How many people, how many people do we have to sell one of the cases?

[2:07:39] I think the development plan will kind of sell itself.

[2:07:42] What do we do that?

[2:07:43] The development plan is not to impact so many of these groups in mind.

[2:07:47] Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

[2:07:53] We'll be back in the morning.

[2:07:54] You decide to be in the pain.

[2:07:56] You're going to be in the dark.

[2:07:57] You're going to be a good walk.

[2:07:59] You're going to be really good.

[2:08:00] And your report is going to take a walk too.

[2:08:02] You show us any manges.

[2:08:03] As much as we are.

[2:08:05] Like we're talking.

[2:08:05] Good morning.

[2:08:07] Good morning.

[2:08:09] Good morning.

[2:08:11] Good morning.

[2:08:14] I'm not hurt.

[2:08:16] you've been called, for sure. I'm not up for the whole of the world's boundary. I had

[2:08:21] these steps in the animation. I think we, I just, I just want, I want to just put

[2:08:26] out on the table that's where I'm thinking we're here, but I, I like those who don't

[2:08:30] really implore it or I like the, you know, I like the eastern side and the holes. Besides

[2:08:37] besides the property, who else is going to fight us to the nail on this?

[2:08:45] I don't see.

[2:08:45] I have everybody probably.

[2:08:47] I have my honest face.

[2:08:49] That's, you know, that's going to be here.

[2:08:51] We're going to get a lot of students and all that.

[2:08:54] Hello.

[2:08:54] What's concerned?

[2:08:56] The question is, can they stop us?

[2:08:58] Okay, that's good.

[2:08:59] That's good.

[2:08:59] I mean, look, I want public buy-in, too.

[2:09:01] And people aren't going to be happy and that's fine.

[2:09:04] The question is, if they can't, if they can't buy-in, can they stop us?

[2:09:08] But they can't.

[2:09:09] Okay, that's right.

[2:09:11] We're all sitting there discussing why this is good for the city.

[2:09:14] That's the decision that's being made that this is in the best interest of the city if we all agree upon what this ultimately comes up with

[2:09:20] And if it is then we're making a decision on the best interest of the city and if we're in within our legal rights to do it

[2:09:26] And we should do it if we agree as a council or but I'm a majority of the fine that is the best way to go about it

[2:09:34] May I ask one question and it links into the GIS

[2:09:38] do we know

[2:09:39] Can we get from the county or whoever the addresses of all of the residential and businesses that are sitting in the dumb not whole or potentially everyone that's affected and send them a very

[2:09:55] terms of marketing. And them a map send them an explanation, tell them what benefits they will

[2:10:03] be getting, tell them we're not going after their farms, we're not doing all of these things.

[2:10:48] We should do it social media, we should do it in the paper, but we don't need to go certified, we just send letters, sheet letters.

[2:10:59] I think we definitely have to do a majorly deciding on that kind of stuff that's now related to many different stuff.

[2:11:07] As far as I concerned, I'm not sure where this goes next, but we definitely need the population.

[2:11:13] And then the acreage has been done either on that.

[2:11:17] Our goal is to find a work that we've got to know about.

[2:11:21] And we will take a more in that study.

[2:11:24] We will get it.

[2:11:24] We talk to you about the process.

[2:11:26] We'll approach you on to the next step.

[2:11:29] We'll move about the work that we've got to know about.

[2:11:31] And I imagine the reason for that we've got to know about this.

[2:11:35] And it's just 15 to us.

[2:11:38] You feel you have enough feedback to go to here.

[2:11:41] Whatever next step.

[2:12:12] And the cold is a rich one.

[2:12:14] I'm going to call it the cold.

[2:12:17] That's called a set of just following.

[2:12:20] I think that's a good one.

[2:12:23] There's a whole form in the middle.

[2:12:27] And I think this is a good one.

[2:12:30] And this is a good one.

[2:12:30] You go inside and it is a good one.

[2:12:32] Is ransom and take you with me?

[2:12:34] Oh no.

[2:12:36] I mean, I know it's too hard to do.

[2:12:38] But this is are the whole.

[2:12:40] That's like, I think you have to do your answer to those things I think you have to do, okay?

[2:12:45] That's what she had worked for.

[2:12:47] Well, again, I think that works a little bit.

[2:12:49] I think it's not one of those, but I'll talk to you about what you have to do.

[2:12:53] The thing that I've talked about is the lesson three of mine.

[2:12:56] And this is the most common.

[2:12:59] I have to do a tiny thing.

[2:13:00] We're going to work right here in this area.

[2:13:04] And we're also going to provide resources.

[2:13:10] I think the majority of all of the works were taken by them,

[2:13:15] from the people to where they were coming from.

[2:13:20] So I think that the issue of a line of the movement,

[2:13:23] and those, you know, are behind it.

[2:13:25] And any of the next types of the people you're trying to hear,

[2:13:28] yeah, this is going to be your re-evolent.

[2:13:32] Everyone else can hear me.

[2:13:34] I just want to share something when we were talking about

[2:13:37] really the two.

[2:13:39] Stop the lease for taking a branch over and back to the airport.

[2:13:43] Stop the enrollement, you have to get up some lunch.

[2:13:46] On my ticket, the lease for sales tax.

[2:13:51] 4.2 percent.

[2:13:55] Just for the town.

[2:13:57] They had to stay in the lease for 4.2.

[2:14:02] I just want to share.

[2:14:04] I just want to share.

[2:14:06] Oh yes, it really is.

[2:14:09] I'm going to be.

[2:14:09] So, I'm going to go on for a Sunday.

[2:14:11] I'm going to be.

[2:14:14] I'm going to be.

[2:14:16] I don't know.

[2:14:17] I don't know.

[2:14:19] I couldn't believe in you.

[2:14:20] I just had something for the state.

[2:14:22] And we'll shortly take to the police for a text.

[2:14:25] Okay.

[2:14:25] Can we get you out of the work, please?

[2:14:27] I'm sorry.

[2:14:34] I'm sorry.

[2:14:43] I'm sorry.

[2:14:47] I'm sorry.

[2:14:56] So, let's move on for a third.

[2:14:57] you're going to have a picture.

[2:15:35] Is this what it did? Is this what it did? Is this what it did?

[2:15:42] Is this going nowhere? I don't want to spend money on that thing. So we really do need to talk about this a little bit more because I already spent a lot of money on this plan and it's not only us talking, we need to be talking to Koreans.

[2:15:57] I'm going to do the other thing too, I'm going to talk to you once this comes in the play.

[2:16:04] I mean, that sort of takes effect too, as far as, you know, I, I mean, this is just me.

[2:16:11] I don't know what other circumstances there would be.

[2:16:15] But I think we gotta do this and sort of, you know, I, I would agree with Nick.

[2:16:25] The other thing is that I spent 25 years in D.C. before I came back here.

[2:16:32] When you start, and I repeat an excitation plan, when you start playing with police departments,

[2:16:40] and people who have guns, and two different jurisdictions, and the authorities and things like that,

[2:16:47] you have to be extremely careful because bad things can happen and who takes responsibility

[2:16:55] which talent removes an incident and you have which police department which knows one

[2:17:00] town makes a decision on another town. I'm very wary about the math on that and the other

[2:17:08] problem is there is an assumption within that document that somehow everyone in both towns

[2:17:17] receive equal services all the time.

[2:17:21] Now, I could use one, Davenport, and Eagle,

[2:17:27] which is a Davenport, and Martin Luther King,

[2:17:30] a police officer in the morning to slow down traffic

[2:17:33] when the buses are coming to pick the kids up.

[2:17:36] Now, I don't care if that's Ransson.

[2:17:38] I don't care if it's Charles Town.

[2:17:40] The one thing that's in that study that's very interesting

[2:17:42] is that Ransson and Charles sounds soon

[2:17:45] We have a juxtaposition in terms of a lot of things.

[2:17:48] We do a lot of contracting.

[2:17:50] They do a lot of hiring from the way I understand it.

[2:17:54] There's also a thing called virtual services.

[2:17:57] Could we buy, you know, we may want to have, say, a million dollars worth of virtual services.

[2:18:06] We buy from Ranson.

[2:18:07] Could we buy your police officers in the morning to monitor some of the places that we don't

[2:18:16] I'm not, there's lots of different ways to use the existing forces that we have, and by we

[2:18:24] have a, during snow flouts, I mean during snow, we may have trucks sitting there waiting,

[2:18:31] ransom may need those trucks, do we, you know, use that, do we buy some of their space so

[2:18:38] we can dump our snow, you know, it's just internally between the two of us, but there's a lot

[2:18:43] virtual services that the two towns could buy from each other, you know, there's always

[2:18:49] this assumption that we're working at 100% efficiency. We don't. We're at down times when

[2:18:57] ransom may be up times, and we could buy their services and make it buy our services.

[2:19:03] But the conversation over ransom is important.

[2:19:05] Oh, so when I'm sitting at this conversation needs to be with rent, I mean we all need to be in the

[2:19:13] as we think we could maybe work out some in the second.

[2:19:17] And that didn't go so well last time.

[2:19:19] It wasn't much of a conversation.

[2:19:21] We have a lot of new people at the table,

[2:19:23] well, so that could make a great difference in dynamic.

[2:19:27] One thing I wanted to point out, that was most impactful to me

[2:19:31] and you're right, you know, we need to talk about whether

[2:19:34] and update is really the way to go or something else.

[2:19:38] But having just had a discussion that we had

[2:19:40] about plants where the recommendation in here

[2:19:44] to create a consolidated planning and economic development

[2:19:47] of park department that serves both cities

[2:19:50] to appoint a reporting to a joint revenue board.

[2:19:53] That's the exact same recommendation

[2:19:54] that was also made to us and our economic redevelopment plan,

[2:19:58] exacting the recommendation in our almost word for work.

[2:20:03] And if Riansen is thinking about moving forward

[2:20:07] with something like what we're talking about tonight,

[2:20:09] And we don't know that, you know, that would be good to know because our group boundaries

[2:20:16] above, right against one another and we're perceived as one demographic as a community

[2:20:22] when a developer wants to come in and we really, really need to stop the competing in that

[2:20:27] regard.

[2:20:28] And the only way to do that is to have a joint effort there.

[2:20:32] So I'm stone that out for the best, what I hear when I read this and I do it, I don't want the competition to come back, I want the movie theater and the retail place and whatever to go where it should go, rather than whoever attracts that developer first.

[2:21:01] And the only way to really do that is to have some facility out of hands on your, you were talking earlier tonight about they have two pad sites that are ready to be developed as a team German.

[2:21:12] I don't know anything about them. We should know about them. We should know about them. We should know about those things because they impact us.

[2:21:21] If that plaza that they have is not successful, we don't get anything out of them.

[2:21:26] So, that's important, which we need to know those things.

[2:21:30] So, I just don't want that out there because we're talking about this.

[2:21:35] I'd like there to be some starting point to collaboration,

[2:21:39] but I would like to enjoy meeting.

[2:21:42] I don't know where that starting point is best,

[2:21:46] but if I had an instinct, I would go here because we've now paid for two studies

[2:21:50] that tell us that we should do this.

[2:21:52] I did right back to the starting point, you get grants and in the room to see what they would do.

[2:22:00] Because they may not want to do, I mean we talk all the time, do this with grants and do this.

[2:22:06] We don't know if they're going to want to do this.

[2:22:09] I mean the things, when I talk to them, I don't care, like on the side, they're proud of what they've accomplished and I tell them, yes, you should be.

[2:22:17] And it's like, we don't need you all, and I don't want to be like cut in the hand, baby, and ever since, because I want to, I want things for Charlestown too, there, you know, it's, but if they want to, if there's things we can do together, then they need to be in this room at the same time, and we need to find out what they want to work for themselves.

[2:22:37] It's not like the first thing is this information check.

[2:22:41] But I think that's one of the ways to get there is, is virtual.

[2:22:46] They have, they have downtime, they have access capacity.

[2:22:50] We have downtime, we have access capacity.

[2:22:53] Where can we share services?

[2:22:54] That should be part of the three versions of some of that.

[2:22:58] I have to ask you more.

[2:22:59] Is there any duplications for us?

[2:23:02] And if there is a split between the past,

[2:23:05] we know that we are the same tables.

[2:23:08] If you, thank you for seeing that.

[2:23:10] I don't know if you're able to call it.

[2:23:12] They might not know if you're able to ask.

[2:23:15] We are 15 more entities.

[2:23:18] And we're able to.

[2:23:20] That's the concept of the message.

[2:23:21] Well, I'm sharing that if there's something that we're more capable of,

[2:23:26] then you're trying to spread everything,

[2:23:28] and it's been pretty helpful to work with that.

[2:23:31] You might be able to do it with your friends.

[2:23:33] Okay.

[2:23:33] I said that because of the big things, you don't want to do the other.

[2:23:37] Right.

[2:23:38] If the reason I don't want to do it, you're trying to do it with your friends.

[2:23:42] The budget is high.

[2:23:45] But one of the reasons I love this kind is that we're two cities of 5,000.

[2:23:49] Thank you.

[2:23:50] We've heard that a lot of we should have been valid.

[2:23:53] So all of the three requirements of the city is in 12,000.

[2:23:56] We've kind of heard of those.

[2:23:57] But we have two separate governments alive.

[2:24:00] So we're going to go back to the last one.

[2:24:02] That's where we're going to arrive.

[2:24:05] We've heard about additional services.

[2:24:07] You would know that.

[2:24:09] And then you can expand on your development.

[2:24:13] But David, those, you know, like the GIS of planning,

[2:24:16] the financials thing. I fully agree with you, but for the police department, for the public

[2:24:24] works, you know, the document is pretty clear. There is a juxtaposition, and I fully agree.

[2:24:32] We could work with Ransson in many of the administrative functions. They could either want

[2:24:39] to do the other financing and helping, we need their GIS capability. Lord, we really do.

[2:24:46] But for those other things, public works and things, we could, you know, there is excess

[2:24:55] capacity.

[2:24:56] It's not duplication, but it is excess capacity, and I would love to have more police

[2:25:02] officers or a better plan, maybe it's a two or three year plan with the police departments

[2:25:09] to start working together in more, even more of a cooperative way than we do it now.

[2:25:14] face it in over a couple of years instead of just saying we're going to do this and automatically implement it.

[2:25:22] What's our relationship with this city council?

[2:25:27] It's fine, I'm going to say if we're going to do this and that makes perfect science together,

[2:25:34] and it's more or less than a greener, which is around which ended up sending vacation.

[2:25:40] But we got to have a social hour. We cannot go like we did last time.

[2:25:44] So you can have an hour and sit down and perform a meeting.

[2:25:48] And it just isn't conducive.

[2:25:50] We need the punch and the cookies, maybe even ever vocalization.

[2:25:54] Maybe even a couple of beers or something.

[2:25:57] Not here.

[2:25:58] But I'm just saying we need to get to know each other.

[2:26:01] Yeah, I know a lot of these folks have a good personal relationship with that.

[2:26:05] I'll see a lot of them at very frequently, but some of you guys couldn't have been no one of them.

[2:26:12] You know, and we've got to meet like human beings first and talk to each other and understand each other before we move into a formal study.

[2:26:22] Well, at end those discussions, we can talk about what we're talking about.

[2:26:25] employees would you be interested in your financials or me as a second and then that's just

[2:26:32] getting the employees together first.

[2:26:33] You may remember.

[2:26:36] Let's call it less, a long-term social, or five a second.

[2:26:40] I think so.

[2:26:41] One whole third of them.

[2:26:42] Can we see a new person?

[2:26:44] We start with that.

[2:26:45] We thought about something more.

[2:26:47] We have seen nine of that.

[2:26:48] We're trying to work with Ranson to buy out the PSP.

[2:26:52] We buy out an air fryer's factory and they buy out in there and that way they're in the best state instead of seven

[2:26:59] And they were talking three and a half million in the case in it, so there's but there's a lot of things we can have conversations about

[2:27:22] I'm not sure about the integrity of my family,

[2:27:26] but it was in the elementary government.

[2:27:28] It's $3,000 for raising the money.

[2:27:31] There's, I think there's ways to collaborate

[2:27:34] with the people who need to resolve this.

[2:27:36] There are, and that's the best way to do this.

[2:27:39] First of all, it's the only thing that we need to try to collaborate.

[2:27:43] I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited.

[2:27:46] I'm excited. I'm excited.

[2:27:47] I'm excited.

[2:27:48] So, I'm not here to hear what I would suggest you put on the agenda to vote of, you know,

[2:27:54] let's get a social date, let's get a follow up meeting date and try to develop out of a social

[2:27:59] and then jammed up further on this session.

[2:28:02] Yeah.

[2:28:02] Like, what are we going to talk about?

[2:28:04] We're going to talk about PSD.

[2:28:06] Are we going to talk about joining in, acting out?

[2:28:08] You know, in action and in violence, just a three thing.

[2:28:11] I want to ask what it would have been asked for answering to go back and you know if we

[2:28:17] think it's not at least something like that.

[2:28:18] Would it also help also to just invite them to our meetings?

[2:28:25] I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't.

[2:28:27] I know, but that's maybe a formal invitation to come and visit.

[2:28:30] I mean, I would love to go to a ransom city council meeting.

[2:28:34] I'll see how they thank Marshall.

[2:28:36] But maybe that is where it may need to begin, where we as council members just start going over and meeting our counterparts.

[2:28:47] It's because you're bad at the social thing, you meet people as like you said you were gay.

[2:28:52] You got the nerve.

[2:28:54] Two states.

[2:28:55] Two states.

[2:28:59] I don't know.

[2:29:00] I don't know.

[2:29:02] I agree with that.

[2:29:03] You get to know the people.

[2:29:05] And you can...

[2:29:06] I love the PSD thing, isn't it?

[2:29:07] It's another argument, if you were.

[2:29:09] Okay.

[2:29:10] Because we can't agree on that.

[2:29:11] Yeah.

[2:29:12] That's not something you agree on.

[2:29:14] And then we have a few, we have one area, we don't agree on yet, but it's down.

[2:29:19] So I don't know what's about that.

[2:29:21] I think there's a lot of areas in the region.

[2:29:25] And I think there's a lot of areas in the region.

[2:29:28] There's a lot of areas in the region.

[2:29:29] There's a lot of areas in the region.

[2:29:32] We can see the local area.

[2:29:35] So we need to know how to access the work that we've done.

[2:29:38] If you don't want to bring it off to your team, there's a lot of people that don't want us to do.

[2:29:46] So, in the three entities, the two entities start to kick and hit the other one, it's off.

[2:29:51] And six and three entities will want to do this.

[2:29:54] These are your collaborators.

[2:29:57] I think they're starting to be like, well, I don't know if you're not going to see them.

[2:30:17] I think the Fairfax full of our search, follow follow follow, whatever that thing is. It would be a good, very good starting point as to why the two cities should continue.

[2:30:30] and get together, that if there is no more better example of the need for coordination between

[2:30:38] the two cities, it's what happened up there.

[2:30:41] And we can, that doubles our position with the state when we get together, and it's in the

[2:30:47] best interest of both cities, and I think that's a great way to start the conversation.

[2:30:54] Maybe a party or something when it's finished and we both meet up there or do something like that to celebrate the opening of it anything like

[2:31:33] And the western, and the western.

[2:31:58] Yeah, you should, yeah, we can then have to, yeah, let's go, John, you've got to an avenue for a door, how much does it go in there?

[2:32:14] But they tell us how close it is now, how close it is now, how close it is now, how close it is

[2:32:35] I'm sure they're saying, yeah, I'll tell you what it is.

[2:32:56] I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

[2:33:01] I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

[2:33:01] It doesn't matter what it is.

[2:33:03] The day out, how close does this come to what's the committee of the hall? Is this the equivalent of a committee of the hall?

[2:33:12] Are you comfortable with that? This format, because I like it. I really do like it.

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