Board of Supervisors Afternoon Work Session (Audio Only) - April 24, 2019

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[1:10] Every Day Excellence - Environmental Engineering
[28:25] Tourism Update
[2:11:28] Monthly Report on District Improvement Funds

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[0:02] Good afternoon, welcome to the afternoon session of the April 24th. This is a budget meeting, Madame Clerk.
[0:09] Madame Chair, the first item on the agenda is approve of the minutes for the April 10th meeting.
[0:13] You have each been provided a correction to the procreation's resolution on page 179.
[0:20] On page 169. Also, there's a couple of corrections on page 176 and 177.
[0:26] Which should have re-painted there, and Megan is here if we have any questions about those.
[0:31] Anybody have any questions or do I have the most real proven minutes as amended?
[0:36] I'm a little bit, I'll be in the second.
[0:38] On favor?
[0:39] On favor?
[0:41] I do too.
[0:42] The question of President Ida's conditions, the lesions are changes in the order of presentation.
[0:46] This really has requested that I am 13b1c resolution, recognizing painful and national donate
[0:53] life months in Chesterville County, be moved to follow Ida 114 member reports.
[0:59] It's our most approved agenda as a message.
[1:01] I'm sorry.
[1:03] All in favour?
[1:03] All in favour?
[1:05] I have three work sessions.
[1:07] A, every day excellent, start the case.
[1:09] Well, please to report, we have another candidate coming forward, and Scott Smedley is here
[1:15] to introduce it, and we're running no shortage of candidates.
[1:18] In fact, there's somebody who might be recognized for things they've done a year ago, but
[1:22] we're going to try and get them all in this year for you at some point.
[1:25] Mr. Smedley.
[1:26] Good afternoon, Madam Chair Members of the Board. Dr. Casey. As you know, the last year has been
[1:32] quite extraordinary for the amount of rainfall and that has created quite a lot of challenges for
[1:37] our department. I like to bring Mr. Duffy up and recognize him for the extraordinary work that he
[1:43] and his drainage crews have done and trying to tackle some of these problems. One of them was out
[1:49] in the Glent Eagle subdivision near Brandermel community.
[1:54] There was an old drainage channel on Brandermel property
[1:58] that over time through large tree growth,
[2:01] and so forth had gotten diverted and was starting
[2:04] to encroach on the Glent Eagle's home.
[2:07] And it was a difficult situation
[2:10] because we didn't have the traditional stormwater infrastructure
[2:14] and easements in the area.
[2:16] So trying to figure out how to correct it and make a difficult situation better was quite challenging.
[2:26] I'd like to bring off Miss Darling Jerome from the Glen Eagles subdivisions.
[2:30] She'd like to just describe the challenges that they were going through at the time.
[2:40] So yeah, I've been in my home for four years, but the community that I'm in Glen Eagles was built in 1977.
[2:47] And at that time, there was as I understand it just a drive ditch behind the homes, but over time with more building and development in the area, the drainage became quite severe.
[3:01] Such that eventually there'll be some pictures. You'll see that the drainage was so much that it was coming up and coming in,
[3:08] switching in on the foundations of some of our homes.
[3:12] So we appealed to Brandermell and then we appealed to the county
[3:16] and over time, yeah, I took them some time,
[3:21] but he'll explain that.
[3:24] This is government, I guess, I don't know, but you see here,
[3:29] this is recycled cement that they put in
[3:31] and it's made a huge difference.
[3:34] Originally when we moved in, this whole stream was about that
[3:38] But it became this wide in about a year, the past year with all the rain and the snowmout.
[3:44] So that was just coming in here and I live right about here.
[3:48] So we were losing our backyard.
[3:50] So they have made a big difference for grateful.
[3:53] And time will tell if it does the trick, but I think it's going to.
[3:56] But I'm not an engineer. I'm just the home owner.
[3:59] And I appreciate your help.
[4:01] Thank you.
[4:03] I would like to say we've had a incredible intense rain event since this work was done.
[4:08] And it is worth it.
[4:15] This is an explanation.
[4:16] This is an intermittent strain that runs behind and comes off from the front of the parkway
[4:21] for the common area of the BCA.
[4:25] Many needles, it's not part of the BCA, it's kind of a little wedge in there.
[4:28] They're independent of BCA, so they don't get a lot of support from BCA.
[4:33] We worked and got permission from the United States to improve the problems of this
[4:41] company.
[4:42] We came in there and we were causing our damage and we fixed and then the getting this
[4:46] material is shortage because the truck is booming so our suppliers will have to
[4:51] well to get something you can acquire or do the job.
[4:55] But you can see the units up on the top, the stream, taking a turn and really cut and
[5:01] post their decks. So we've armored that whole bank and then installed check
[5:09] them along this travel. It's created the pools of water to go to the energy
[5:17] and come down the channel and also it feels back in with sediments. So we'll go back in
[5:24] and it's working like a champ. We're really surprised how much was behind them already
[5:28] just three months. This is another one of them. Check the end. Put in. I'm out of doesn't
[5:35] hope that channel until it turns out that the blood plant up in some areas we did. It's
[5:44] growing up so fast. I wish you would take a special last month as the vegetation is covered
[5:48] up so quickly. It's worth it very well.
[5:56] Jerry, I want to say thank you. I've been out there
[5:58] a couple of times but before and after check on this and even the pictures you have
[6:04] a good but they don't do it just as he all really did a solid job on this and you made
[6:08] it work in a way that you really, you know, we didn't have the rights as you say to get in
[6:14] their dual this but you did it in a low cost and efficient, cooperative way with friend
[6:19] and mill there and I just can't thank enough for thinking outside the box and getting done.
[6:23] So I really appreciate you.
[6:24] You're not allowed to retire.
[6:27] I'd like to thank you, Jerry, for all the things you've done in my district, in my husband.
[6:32] There's a guy at his work that he calls the Magic Man, because he can pick any computer problems.
[6:37] I call you the Magic Man when it comes to brain issues, because you managed to figure out ways.
[6:43] I almost like when people call me up with a drainage problem.
[6:48] And you really, you're just so customer friendly, and just really go out of your way for our citizens, and it's been that way since I've been on the board, and so it's just to me who really thank you for that.
[7:03] I might say thank you appreciate thank you for being here to share as well to appreciate you being here.
[7:08] Did you see an Asian there in the mirror?
[7:14] And I'd also like to mention he fixed one of my, he was working with Billy Stubbs, who's
[7:20] 96, he's a 94, 95 years old, and he's a World War II veteran, and Jerry was had plans
[7:28] to bring him up to see the Marine Corps Museum, but Billy sometimes, when you try to take him
[7:33] places, then he's not feeling well, but Jerry's going to keep trying on it.
[7:37] to keep trying, it's hearing aids aren't working on the range for him to be interviewed by the
[7:41] Marine Corps, our Congress, for his office, that's absolutely stories to tell, and what
[7:47] is both on.
[7:48] It's not, you know, I'm good, part of it's hearing aids from him.
[7:51] It's been a kind of tells you the kind of employed jerry isn't that best for servicing, doesn't
[7:56] mean just fixing your drainage, you see another need that he boards on taking care of it.
[8:01] So, thanks so much, Jerry.
[8:03] You're not thinking we have appropriated another system for you and starting to do that one
[8:06] I don't mean you get to stay at all, but it's not going to help you, but it's going to help you to
[8:11] get inside.
[8:12] I don't need a lot of help.
[8:13] That's going to be true in itself.
[8:15] I'm glad we're able to do that.
[8:16] Thank you.
[8:17] Yeah, absolutely.
[8:18] Thank you.
[8:19] And train people to be like you.
[8:23] Yeah.
[8:23] Yeah.
[8:23] We have given one of those I want to do.
[8:24] It's not glamorous work.
[8:28] Thank you.
[8:29] Thank you.
[8:30] Thank you.
[8:30] Thank you.
[8:30] Thank you.
[8:33] Thank you.
[8:33] Thank you.
[8:39] The next more session is the rich from Metropolitan Transportation Authority Update.
[9:12] It's a seat.
[9:13] Thank you.
[9:13] Go for you.
[9:14] It's a town right there.
[9:16] Okay.
[9:24] Okay.
[9:25] My name is Joy Dean.
[9:26] I am a CEO for Richmond Research Policy Transportation Authority.
[9:29] I'd like to first take Chairman Hayley for the opportunity and Vice Chairman
[9:36] As well as Kelly and Administrator Joe Casey and I would be
[9:42] verivastified in a knowledge our former R&G board shareman Jim Holland.
[9:48] Thank you for the opportunity today to speak with you this afternoon and we'll
[9:55] attend to be brief and just give you my goal is to provide you with an overview of
[10:00] we are, our mission, our people, our legislative authority, our assets, our strategic priority,
[10:07] and chair some information about our largest project today.
[10:11] So if you have any questions, go free to ask them as I click through, and I will do my
[10:17] best to answer them.
[10:19] So we'll start with our mission, and our mission has stated that it's a new mission,
[10:24] It was developed by the RTA board in 2017 and conjunction with the completion of our strategic plan.
[10:32] And this new mission is broader and aligned with what the RTA has legislative authority to do
[10:38] and is to facilitate and provide a variety of transportation and public facilities
[10:43] that improve the quality of life in the written metropolitan area.
[10:48] We have a board of 16 members.
[10:52] I am fortunate to have a diverse board that brings a varied experiences, both in the public
[10:58] private sector, alone.
[11:01] Our Chancellorfield members, you have a former V-back commissioner, a former county administrator.
[11:09] And of course, Mr. Elzley, it's a vice chair, it's on our board as well.
[11:17] We have five members from Henrico County, which includes former v.engineer and we have four members
[11:29] currently from the city of Richmond, which includes transportation, planning, consultant,
[11:36] bankers, lawyers, and these diversity of experiences and vocations, when did some for deliverative discussion in the collaboration with our board.
[11:53] This is an RMTA team. Just a little bit about myself. I've been with the RMTA for approximately five years.
[12:00] The first three years, I have a position of Chief of Staff before my time at the RMTA.
[12:05] I spent over a decade working in the U.S.
[12:08] Dole and I will go over to a little more arena in New Jersey with the New Jersey Attorney General's Office
[12:11] and the New Jersey Port of Utilities as well as a small boutique public affairs firm founded.
[12:19] I have an outstanding team of individuals that help us do what we do every single day.
[12:26] We have a profitability of 140 employees, 16 of which I work with directly every day in our Central Office
[12:33] In about another 124, who are part of our expressway operations.
[12:39] Our average employee tenure, as you'll see there in about 25 years,
[12:45] it takes that we're chosen because both of these individuals
[12:50] recently celebrated an anniversary with us.
[12:54] The gentleman on the left has celebrated 40 years with us
[13:00] and the gentleman on the right 20 years.
[13:02] So, we are, we are who we are because of our great employees and our great team.
[13:11] So, a little bit about our legislative authority.
[13:14] We were created by Actors, the General Assembly in 1966 to plan finding its build and maintain
[13:20] at the time of much of the expressway system.
[13:23] Upon the completion of the Powwai Parkway, the downtown expressway and greater accessibility
[13:28] into the downtown area. There was an increase need for parking facilities and in 1923, we were
[13:34] authorized to provide the HIKI on the parking facilities. In 1984, our statute was amended
[13:41] to allow for the authorities to construct own and operate a sports facility in 1985, we built
[13:51] in 2003 on the authority was asked to manage the ministry station on behalf of the city upon the completion of their renovation.
[14:01] And in recent times,
[14:05] in 2014, this is the most significant change for us.
[14:09] The general assembly amended our authority statute to one and then the main transportation as a part of our name.
[14:19] Equalized our board with five members for each jurisdiction and it allowed for the appointment of elected officials to our board.
[14:29] Additionally, the stipulations that have been listed allowed for jurisdictional and mayor approval to do a number of items.
[14:40] to purchase these trucks and acquire additional highway projects to own operating
[14:46] provides transit to take care of our parking, enforce facilities, and issue debt,
[14:51] farm money, and expand the data and repayment after that.
[14:55] The extent, this legislative authority, and change.
[15:00] To our statutes in 2014, really allows for the authority to be a sure regional transportation authority and encourage regional collaboration.
[15:13] And lastly, in 2016,
[15:18] we were authorized to construct a own and operate policy in an areas.
[15:23] So what do we do? We connect the Richmond region. This map that you see honey is an old
[15:31] map, but I really prefer to use it because it's a great illustration of our asset.
[15:37] If you look in the very heavy red, it clearly shows where the downtown expressway stops in the
[15:43] roadway in between that's owned by V dot and where the arm chain picked back up across the river
[15:49] to the Chippenham Parkway interchange.
[15:53] Just so he fastened out our assets.
[15:57] We have 6.5 serene lane miles.
[16:00] We have 65 lane miles.
[16:02] We have 36 bridges, and we have four tunnels.
[16:11] The Boulevard Bridge, which is a fetchway known
[16:14] as the Nickel Bridge, was purchased by the authority in 1969.
[16:19] It underwent extensive renovations in 1992.
[16:22] And it's a place to concrete deck on which allow for us to widen the lanes and construct a single walkway, which people love to use going across the bridge.
[16:34] Our next asset is the downtown expressway. It opened in 1976 to 73 and then the connecting ramp in final portion were completed to 195 in 1977.
[16:47] in our portion of the Poway Parkway, which opened in 1973, and it goes from the Shepanian
[16:56] interchange across James River to Carrey Street. Since these are just snapshots of our assets.
[17:06] And so let's let's move on to our revenues. We had in fiscal year 2019, we had about $43.8 million
[17:14] of revenue, our operating budget was 16.8 million money from debt service was 14.7 million
[17:24] and available for capital was about 12.3 million.
[17:29] We are a self-supporting entity.
[17:32] We received no ongoing local state or federal funding.
[17:42] So in 2016, our board engaged in approximately a year-long process and completed and approved
[17:49] strategic plan in the fall of 2017. The following strategic priorities, which you can see on the slide,
[17:59] the first, is to become the go-to authority for transportation and other infrastructure projects
[18:05] in services in the region, with the equalization of our board and the history of successful transportation
[18:12] infrastructure projects and facility projects on the RMTA stands at the ready to support the region.
[18:18] The second was to provide world-class customer service through strong communications and best-in-class customer experience.
[18:25] We provide ourselves, we provide ourselves on our customer service, and we continue to ensure that our staff is trained
[18:33] and consistently reminded of the importance of customer service.
[18:37] A communication for us is key, which is one of the reasons why we're here, I'm here sharing our story today.
[18:43] And the third was to ensure security of existing revenue streams while evaluating alternative funding approaches to support new initiatives.
[18:53] Our staff continues to review our revenue and traffic information and research innovative and alternative funding opportunities.
[19:01] The fourth is to attract and retain the best staff and the business and that's what we continue to do on every day by making the RMT day a great place to work.
[19:14] And lastly, we take full advantage of new technologies to ensure safety and enhance customer service experience and operate efficiently.
[19:21] And so, what does that mean that that takes us to our next slide?
[19:28] Which is, our toll replacement, our toll system replacement project, which is the largest project that we've had today.
[19:38] We are using a project to upgrade our current toll collection systems at the Powite Parkway, the Downtown Expressway and the Boulevard Bridge.
[19:48] We have been engaged in about a two-year project.
[19:53] We have developed the RAP.
[19:55] We have selected a transfer as the implementer.
[19:59] We are currently in the design phase.
[20:02] We have the expectation of implementation in late fall or winter.
[20:09] This system will replace all of the old and obsolete hardware, architecture, and software.
[20:15] And it will allow us to be primed for the future technology needs that are in line with
[20:22] industry trends or maintaining an optimal level of customer service.
[20:27] What are the, what are the industry trends in this area of total lecture?
[20:30] I've noticed that we've been on a floor to sometimes and you see how it basically got
[20:34] or ridded of the foods where they're collecting dollars and replaced them with all
[20:41] electronic.
[20:42] Is that happening elsewhere or is that just for them that is that primarily across the country
[20:48] It is on the industry trend
[20:50] is all electronic
[20:52] Tolling 80
[20:54] The type of terminology for that
[20:57] Or partial electronic
[20:58] And so what you've seen in Florida, if you see it up in northern Virginia
[21:03] You don't have to use express lanes there that's all like for on it
[21:07] We'll see it down in North Carolina
[21:09] Now, Raleigh just opened up, a new toll road down there,
[21:12] you'll see the same thing.
[21:14] And so that's not necessarily the direction
[21:17] that we're going in right now, but the opportunity,
[21:20] the technology that we're putting in place
[21:22] will allow for that in the future.
[21:24] It's the poor deterrent that the direction they would like to go in.
[21:27] Are they getting rid of good dates?
[21:30] We will not be getting rid of good dates.
[21:33] I feel like I'm going to, but we will be replacing the dates.
[21:37] to walk them down the coast and nobody has gained to get the po-way that takes it.
[21:42] Of course, I do.
[21:44] Not as of yet, we'll be replacing you.
[21:48] I always drive it.
[21:50] Because you're just so used to piss him when I come back from a trip.
[21:54] Because you're just so used to having no gates.
[21:57] The good news is if you hit one that I've heard.
[22:03] It's a salt.
[22:05] It's a salt.
[22:09] That's my question, like so when you're saying you're upgrading, what does that upgrade include to see?
[22:15] Because I had to tell you I have a car that I mean, have I been in the easy past 10 times?
[22:20] I go fine on the per-white, the downtown expressway rejects the place when I'm in my easy past.
[22:25] So they've set me one to put on my license plate and it won't read that one.
[22:28] So then they set me one to put that up.
[22:30] I mean, so is this going to solve that problem of me trying to pay and keep getting snacked?
[22:37] Well, that's how I hit the post, because I think it's going to read in it.
[22:42] Oh, that's not something I'm aware of, we can't talk about that.
[22:46] Why?
[22:46] It's the kind of car I have, and they say, did they say every car like this?
[22:50] As you pass says, they only have trouble on the downtown express.
[22:54] Oh, really?
[22:56] We can talk about the point about that.
[22:58] We can talk about your new car.
[23:03] That's what you want.
[23:07] It's just going to play one place, it's like I'm doing whatever you tell me.
[23:11] I'm just wondering, is it going to be a better system, or is it?
[23:17] It's going to be a new and improved system.
[23:20] What you will initially see, you want to initially see really any big difference.
[23:24] You will see on the replacement of the machines, of the cash machines.
[23:28] You will see, but primarily is the technology that's in the toll booths that's being upgraded.
[23:36] So those are the first steps of the system replacement.
[23:40] And then over the course of time, probably right after the system or in conjunction
[23:45] when the internal computer systems are replaced, you'll see externally
[23:50] their placement of food and summer placement of gates.
[23:53] And so I'm hopeful that, you know, with the new system that, you know, your, your reader will be a little bit better, but we can talk about that
[24:06] in the other questions.
[24:10] So this system and all lanes will be able to operate in cash, mix electronic mode.
[24:18] And like I said, this will allow for us to be prepared for any other future technologies and the tolling industry.
[24:25] Our toll system has not been replaced in about 10 years.
[24:31] And so we are, we are primed for the placement.
[24:36] Most of the systems do not the industry are replaced
[24:39] of every five to seven years depending on the location.
[24:46] So is the system that gets that R&TAUs is the same system that they use
[24:52] that on the other tolls further down the way?
[24:55] That would be that section.
[24:56] The video.
[24:57] Yes.
[24:58] We both use the generator transport.
[25:02] So the similar system.
[25:04] So is that replacement that you folks are undergoing something to feed on?
[25:08] It's going to do as well.
[25:08] Do you know that?
[25:10] Are you out of the way?
[25:10] Okay.
[25:13] Have they ever really looked at?
[25:15] I mean, does that make you the one that holds when it gets up?
[25:20] It just seems so obsolete to have that in the whole process.
[25:23] So he's traffic moving and just seems so obsolete to have the killing up and down.
[25:29] I don't have those numbers in front of me.
[25:32] They just take a picture of you.
[25:34] Why?
[25:35] They take it away.
[25:36] They take it away.
[25:37] They take it away.
[25:37] They take it away.
[25:38] They take it away.
[25:39] They take it away.
[25:39] They take it away.
[25:41] They take it away.
[25:43] They take it away.
[25:48] But what you also have before you is kind of an infographic.
[25:54] which is a larger version of what's on the next slide.
[25:58] And it's essentially just the infographic on the Tulsa System replacement by the number and what you can expect and also include a timeline.
[26:08] And we have been working on a sub-page for our website, and so we will be including this on the sub-page, as well as some additional information about the new system.
[26:19] and doing some communication to the public so that they can know what's going on.
[26:31] One of our opportunities move forward from the RTA perspective, we hope that we can work with
[26:37] our local jurisdictions on regional projects and serve as a resource in the area of transportation.
[26:44] We hope to strengthen our partnerships and relationships by leveraging experience and background
[26:50] our board of directors and we hope to continue the dialogue with local jurisdictions about
[26:56] on your current future needs.
[26:59] And so, I thank you for this opportunity and if there are any additional questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
[27:05] You know, just to comment, about the same, the percentage of the people that used
[27:10] Yeah, I'm going to put in both white or chest book and I read it.
[27:14] So that roadway is very important to us.
[27:17] Yes, I appreciate that.
[27:21] Yeah, I thank you for your leadership, Ms. Dean.
[27:23] You've done a outstanding job.
[27:25] I found out when the first man I first joined that argument here,
[27:29] if you had worked with my cousin, who was the attorney general of New Jersey,
[27:32] appointed attorney general.
[27:34] And that's it.
[27:35] Because I'm Peter.
[27:35] It is so interesting.
[27:39] One question I have.
[27:42] This is one of the reports.
[27:45] As you stated in 2016,
[27:47] the journal Assembly, House Bill 13,
[27:52] 1237, a lot of,
[27:53] allows, I operate the Coliseum,
[27:54] anything new in the Coliseum project.
[27:56] If you were,
[27:57] I think I was a joke.
[27:59] Those curious.
[28:00] You're gonna see Chris, you're gonna do it.
[28:02] Okay.
[28:05] I'll put on that one too.
[28:08] Okay.
[28:14] Thank you.
[28:15] Thank you.
[28:15] Thank you.
[28:16] The next work session topic is the tourism update.
[28:19] Let's just run by.
[28:21] Good afternoon.
[28:22] Adam chair.
[28:22] I'm going to talk to you about local tourism.
[28:28] I want to start us off with just one quick slide.
[28:30] to a kind of set-to-context and multi-ordered to the presenters.
[28:35] Figures you see here are just for Jessica Kelly.
[28:38] As you can see tourism is a significant driver for leisure and hospitality sector.
[28:43] With almost 14,000 jobs and a payroll of close to 250 million dollars.
[28:48] In 2018, the occupancy rate was very strong.
[28:51] At right about two thirds of our available hotel rooms in our 41 hotels.
[28:56] Of course not all this is traced to tourism.
[28:58] there aren't business travelers that come to Chesterfield, such as at Columbia Gas where they
[29:03] had their regional training center here and people come to train. We deal with people coming
[29:08] from all the country and visit people who family and lives here in the county as well. But still
[29:12] a good portion of it is related to tourism. It's not just sports tourism now and we're going to talk
[29:17] a lot about that today but of course people come to CR historical sites and like as part,
[29:23] are focused on as part, the zoo, many other things, line of risks, so there's a lot of great venues
[29:29] within Chesterfield County.
[29:31] If I can direct your attention to the bar chart on the right-hand side, the rise in tourism is really
[29:36] best demonstrated by that.
[29:38] You can see the growth of occupancy taxes since 2010, and you can really see how the pace started
[29:44] to increase after the county purchased River City Sportsplex in 2016 and re-energized it.
[29:50] So, as you can see occupancy tax grew by 65% in nine years from three and a half million
[29:57] though over $5.7 million.
[30:00] That was just, you know, but it's grown since we purchased the company.
[30:05] 1%.
[30:06] I don't have that.
[30:08] But I'll get it to you.
[30:09] It looks like the single biggest jump on there.
[30:11] Right.
[30:12] Yeah.
[30:12] It was fairly level for the years prior to 2016.
[30:15] And that's when it takes off, but I'll get that for you.
[30:17] Although I wonder how much of that growth contributed to that complex opening.
[30:22] Because we bought it.
[30:24] It was bringing that and we bought it because we were afraid it wasn't going to continue.
[30:31] I'm sure they'll be talking about how many more weekends there are events out there and how it's prospering.
[30:37] Of course, these taxes are important because they fuel Richmond regional tourism's budget and then that allows us to be sustainable and allows the growth to continue to sell.
[30:46] In addition to our outstanding parks, our record department, a lot of that success is really about the partnerships we have.
[30:53] And so, three of those groups I hear the talk today, we've got John Loveville from Sports Packers,
[30:59] Jack Barry from Richmond Region of Sours, and Matt North of Burton from Peterford Region of Sours,
[31:04] who will continue the presentation.
[31:20] Good afternoon, Madam Chair.
[31:22] There was a board, Dr. Casey, I'm Jack Barry from Richmond Region of Sours,
[31:26] and we're together, John Loveville is a sports factors,
[31:30] present a wonderful, wonderful summary of what Scott just mentioned.
[31:34] Before I get into my presentation, I'd like to introduce part of my team, with us today's
[31:39] capital down, Dasha Ronin, Jason Kmerma, Dr. Lee, and one who does not need an introduction
[31:47] that not worth saying, I'm still sorry that we stole Danny, but we took Danny, who's on
[31:53] a more recent story, he's doing a bad old job, into acting with us, but it's been another
[32:00] here in sports tourism and speaking of sports, everybody thinks about March Manus, of course,
[32:07] with New Year's recent national change.
[32:11] But we have a different version of March Manus here in
[32:14] the different region, of course that involves the Jefferson Cup, which is a four consecutive
[32:19] weekend of soccer. What's most interesting, it's 1500 and 73 teams from 30 different states and
[32:27] Annabelle. There's 700 NCAA college coaches that are here for those two of those weekends recruiting athletes.
[32:39] And moving over from soccer to swimming, as you all know, of course, the tier pro swim series brought over 450 athletes from a long ago, just Jessica County athletes were competing included representatives of 41 different national teams in the 33 professional athletes.
[32:57] This caliber of competition in our own backyard is a huge inspiration for all aspiring
[33:02] swimmers in the region.
[33:04] In addition to the tiered post-Swing series, there were 13 additional sport tours of
[33:09] Swimming Arts held in the past year.
[33:13] We continue to host championship, caliber of events, and swimmers from clubs across the
[33:17] state.
[33:18] VHSL, class 1-4 Swimming Championships were held this past year, and thus a swimming
[33:24] The future's North Championship was August of 2018, and USA is swimming eastern zones,
[33:31] long course age group championships was here August of 2018 as well.
[33:37] But of course, the shining star is of course the River City Sports Complex.
[33:42] It dominates our sports tourism schedule just without an entire region and continues to help
[33:46] brand its company as a sports destination.
[33:49] University of Sports Complex is established in itself as a nationally award-winning,
[33:55] earning two national awards this past year. Sports events magazine made
[34:01] river city sports clubs top ultimate soccer and across destination and venue
[34:06] receiving the most national votes out of 30 top facilities. Also was awarded
[34:11] the National Association of Counties Naco Achievement Award for the program title
[34:16] River City Sports Plugs operational overhaul.
[34:20] This highlighted the outstanding work done by Harks and REC staff
[34:23] to overcome the operational maintenance challenges
[34:25] faced as led to the facility becoming a premier sports destination.
[34:30] Sports tourism toys, just at River City,
[34:34] 26 out of town children weekends, $32.3 million
[34:40] of economic impact from River City Sports events,
[34:44] $1.2 million of just to be a tax revenue from these sports tourism events.
[34:50] Overall, visit numbers for it at Riverside, 549,000 total visits to the facility,
[34:57] $192,000 in termine visitors, and 347,000 in recreational open play visitors.
[35:07] And an easy benefit to sports tourism events that's always highlighted is the economic impact
[35:12] But there are additional benefits that can be equally beneficial, but not as well seen in the dollar figure.
[35:19] For example, a local athlete and family gets to stay home and compete with a field hockey showcase here,
[35:26] where we're thanks to the weekend instead of traveling with California.
[35:28] Channel Aates, a local athlete, rising at collision on the cross scholarship because of being
[35:38] recruited at university sports clubs, making Chesterfield the pipeline to college across.
[35:44] And then, as your familiar with sport and sports, for junior off-wires, a travel boys
[35:49] with cross club were created in the Richmond region as a result of court and sports enterprises
[35:55] is continued partnership over the past five years,
[35:59] posting five events in Chesterfield each year.
[36:02] It creates an additional competitive sport
[36:04] opportunities for the local citizens.
[36:09] For overall, it's a huge sport diversity.
[36:14] We have a total of 14 different sports to place
[36:17] in fiscal year 18 of the sports tourism reports,
[36:21] including baseball, field hockey, black football,
[36:25] across the boys and girls mountain biking,
[36:29] put by road racing 5K, rowing, soccer boys and girls,
[36:34] softball, spruce triathlon, swimming, trail running,
[36:39] and volleyball.
[36:41] In total of 13 different facilities hosted these events,
[36:44] nine of the 13 were account facilities.
[36:49] So the regional economic impact was A4.1 million dollars,
[36:53] up from $81.7 million in fiscal year 17.
[36:59] 62 events took place from July 1st, 2021, June 30, 2018.
[37:05] The regional quote, Economic Impact, is derived by each visitor, spending $208 per day
[37:12] times the average number of rooms,
[37:16] say, a county impact, up from last year, it's $41 million.
[37:20] Last year was $38.6 million, including 62 events from July 1st, 2017 to June 3rd, 2018.
[37:29] Just for your county, had a huge regional economic impact, again, with real nice funding
[37:35] the region.
[37:39] And I hope this is a video in the bathroom.
[37:42] Here's one more time.
[37:43] And this video will showcase some of the local businesses that it's not only the
[37:49] I've never seen sports non-lux make in Maine for itself, but it's forced to travel.
[37:55] In the short time, Czech Republic County is owned and operated river city sports flex.
[37:58] Thousands of athletes have come here to play.
[38:01] Not only is this growing or reputation as a sports destination,
[38:04] but it's also strengthening our local economy.
[38:07] It's just unbelievable the impact that youth sports tournaments have had.
[38:12] Mike Watkins is the general manager of Double Tree Midlothian,
[38:15] and he says they often book up to 175 rooms each weekend of a sports tournament.
[38:20] It's a wonderful environment. I mean the hotel's full. It's busy. It's active.
[38:25] Just down the street from Riverside's course class. The young competitors and their families get their barbecue
[38:30] fix from local staple, the flying pig. They've been a fitness a lot. Not only from the regular business,
[38:39] but at a town, business, they come once, then they start calling the next year and they say, oh yeah,
[38:45] we came last year. We really liked it. Can we make a reservation for this year?
[38:49] The staff at the Flying Pig actually moved their vacations around to be able to work the tournament weekends.
[38:54] They definitely benefits us to have a big boost all day long, because the games are different times.
[39:00] So you have people coming in right when we open at 11 or 12, coming in at 2 or 3, or coming in at 7 or 8.
[39:06] The environmental electric. There's lots of kids out here before getting a lot of kids out here after getting one of those.
[39:14] You can see how happy they are being with their teams,
[39:16] hey now with their families, it's really great to see the amount of just enthusiasm
[39:21] that comes to the door.
[39:23] If Andy says he sees the enthusiasm across all of his dark and doughnuts locations,
[39:27] I'm going to just affect this restaurant.
[39:29] I've got four of the restaurants in the middle of the area,
[39:31] and those weekends also really benefit those restaurants,
[39:35] because there are hotels that are out there that are housing these teams,
[39:38] and so there's restaurants as well that are really picking up
[39:39] their shoes, groups, and sales so that we can.
[39:41] Chesterfield County works with businesses beforehand to make sure everyone has a great experience.
[39:46] Fortunately, we've been given schedules in the dams.
[39:48] What this allows us to do is be able to see how many teams are coming, what potential customers,
[39:55] and how many will come in to be in this area that we can.
[39:58] They're probably going to stop our rest of us, make sure we do provide the adequate service that each shop needs in the area.
[40:04] So that's a huge benefit for us.
[40:06] being of a no way ahead of time, the impact that you're going to see is what's going to
[40:11] have to ask.
[40:12] The economic impact that Sports Tourism has on the region continues to grow.
[40:15] The Liberty Sports Complex helps the business, helps the community, so yeah, it's a big
[40:21] part of the community and everybody knows about it.
[40:23] Big hats off and thank you to all of the Chastophil County officials for stepping up and making
[40:30] Reversity sports plots a reality
[40:34] We enjoy working with our local businesses and appreciate all of our help and continuing to have our Chesterfield as a sports destination for Chesterfield County. I'm Danny Boniface
[41:10] members of the board, testimonial kind of leadership systems and the Chester film, John
[41:14] Onethville, Executive Director of the Sports Packers, and I get to follow up on Jack.
[41:21] I feel like I'm one of the subs at UVA, I mean, I just had a cabal and I already just knocked
[41:27] it out of the park, and I just got to keep the score, keep the spread.
[41:32] So the big news about the growth again in sports terrorism, and then when we went to
[41:37] That's the earlier Jacklings over to me, and I hope we can keep the straight going, and that really is the hard part.
[41:44] And that's what this first slide is about.
[41:47] There are tournaments that leave.
[41:49] And so constantly working to grow new product is ongoing after.
[41:55] So there were 14 new events in the 2018 year.
[42:00] Swimmer VA hosted seven of those new swimming events.
[42:03] So that has totally economic impact at $5.9 billion.
[42:08] So that constant turnover is really important,
[42:11] but that's also why Jack Lee Knower to me,
[42:13] it's scary that it's not like this business just comes and we,
[42:17] it's not like flying pig where they can just look at last year's numbers.
[42:22] This requires new additional work to come in.
[42:26] Doing events from the previous year, yes, put goal, major tournament, the Eastern Elven
[42:34] came here, U.S. lacrosse had their under 15 nationals here, their numerous soccer tournaments.
[42:45] And the club Champions League had had new events here as well.
[42:51] They're now bringing five events to River City and talk about another tournament here in a second around volleyball.
[42:59] One of the things that I think we all know intuitively that these four stores and events aren't just filling hotel rooms and restaurants.
[43:08] This is a way for people from outside of Rish outside of Chesterfield to come here and actually see and feel and live in your community.
[43:16] And so that's how you actually really drive economic development, even more so than the actual tourism
[43:23] office.
[43:24] People are coming here and experiencing your quality of life and whether that's the tacky
[43:28] light run and you can see your wackiest, weirdest, capture boot or whether it's your
[43:34] parks or whether it's the VHSL championships and they're seeing your high quality schools.
[43:38] These events can showcase what's great about TensorFlow County and normally if it's just
[43:44] Professorville Residence, seeing it's like you're preaching to the choir, but if you actually have a chance to have those out of town people come, that's your opportunity to really be preaching to a new audience.
[43:55] One of the new additions was the RBC Facility at Stonebridge, that just Pro County partnered with, and one of the tournaments that we're talking about is news, a new AAU Fit Tournament that was hosted there, that location, and we're going to see more of that comments.
[44:11] that facility, it's just recently been completed
[44:14] and it's coming online.
[44:16] There are also two other Atlantic Coast
[44:18] powerly championship and transfer that facility.
[44:21] And obviously, to use for regular recreational activity
[44:23] for RBC, and it has a lot of opportunities
[44:28] in the future as well.
[44:30] I mean, in the volleyball club, not only sports,
[44:33] but it also brings such light back into that,
[44:36] helping light back into that area.
[44:38] for people in, which is what you really need.
[44:41] And I think, you know, the activated in a space like that
[44:45] is really important, and they have that daily activation.
[44:49] And while we talk a lot about what we do,
[44:53] the peak room nights and the peak events,
[44:55] and those are incredibly important for hotel room nights,
[44:58] but if you're a...
[45:00] So, or a rest of this nearby, that daily activity is incredibly important. And you might just ramp up or not, let your staff go and leave during that one weekend, but if it's everyday all year, you have to hire additional staff. So, that long-term impact is really important.
[45:16] Sports Tourism challenges. So obviously there's competition. There's new complexes. You all are very, very well-positioned, but there is more and more complexes being built every year.
[45:33] And again, even though I'm going to mention Henry Good County, competition really is in Delaware
[45:39] and Pennsylvania and Indiana and North Carolina and South Carolina.
[45:44] So in Merle Beach, those more fields, that's competition for you all, and I know it's easy
[45:49] to think of.
[45:50] And right, those are the competition, and yes, they're building new fields that cover park
[45:55] in a new Aquatic Center, but no way, that's kind of our regional product that helps us
[46:00] region in a way, they are competition, but they're kind of not. I would be more worried about
[46:07] Raleigh, I'd be more worried about the new complex in Delaware, and the new complex in Philadelphia,
[46:13] right outside of Philadelphia. So, the landcaster, this is not where I was closing up. So, that's
[46:20] So that really is that challenge going forward.
[46:26] Looking ahead in the Chesterfield, there's upgrades going on in the River City Sportsplex.
[46:34] Lights were recently added to the backfield's 10-12.
[46:38] Fencing the restroom and concession buildings on those fields,
[46:42] leaving of the parking lot back there, which really had been abandoned twice
[46:46] for its quest back in the day.
[46:49] And then the replacement of TARF on Philip 4
[46:51] in fiscal year 20.
[46:54] New events, fiscal year 20, is a spiteful national championship.
[46:59] A new Adidas soccer tournament as well.
[47:07] One thing before I go on to the partners,
[47:10] I was at a meeting this morning with V-DOT
[47:12] around the Asyl and the Petersburg Trail.
[47:14] And while a lot of this presentation
[47:15] has been around teams and events. One of the things that we've seen is the unbelievable success
[47:24] of the Virginia Capitol Trail and how to become one of the top regional attributes. And we see
[47:29] that Ashland and Peter's bird trail actually having more significant numbers because of the
[47:35] corridor that will actually reach. Now, we'll connect to the Virginia Capitol Trail, but that trail
[47:41] when it's eventually completed,
[47:43] and I know that's when could be a really tremendous asset
[47:47] to test a real county in a huge set.
[47:50] I think the longest section of that trail
[47:53] would be three-chester real county.
[47:55] So just so you know that that's out there for the future
[47:57] and while it's not like a sports tournament,
[48:03] but the way it creates that just ongoing regular business,
[48:06] and you see it at the Virginia Public Trail
[48:07] on a regular basis.
[48:09] Sports Tourism Partners, I'm going to lead off with Danny.
[48:14] Guys, we'll get his benefit of him still working to help sports tourism, and you don't have to pay anymore.
[48:20] Then that comes out of the check.
[48:22] We can give a jack.
[48:23] Of course, it's good for her anyway.
[48:26] I didn't do that.
[48:28] But, but Paul's step right in and it's doing a great job for you, and it's really picked up.
[48:35] and James Worsley has been doing a fantastic job and really understands the bigger picture.
[48:43] It's often that you're worried about the fields and the help keep.
[48:46] And when we deal with parts and direct people around the region that often tends to be,
[48:50] well, I don't know if I want new stuff because it's going to be more trash pick up and more maintenance.
[48:55] And you never ever hear that from Dr. Worsley. So there is an understanding that this has real value
[49:01] of the county. And then, Jackson's awesome, if we've mentioned throughout, but really the
[49:12] Richmond Kickers, the Richmond Strikers, swim RBA, the partners that we've worked with
[49:17] to produce these events are vital to this success. And while many of the partners that are
[49:25] or obvious, you know, Amy DeFour at the Capitol Hill House, she, she has this whole, for every major tournament, she has this whole strategy to reach out to them and help make them welcome Neil and me and machine hotels just a huge partner.
[49:41] When you actually see it in action, you would think this was normal, like of course communities do this, well think, don't.
[49:49] And so that Dunkin, I guess it's not Dunkin Dunkin anymore, that Dunkin manager, it's hard to even say, that Dunkin manager, actually having a staff plan ahead of what their leave is, can you imagine that happening in Atlanta or in the Washington DC, see, so it's just not happening, and so that is something that we're able to do slash we collectively, that really makes a difference, so your staff, when they're out there doing those contacts, that actually,
[50:19] adds up to a much better experience.
[50:21] And so, so this partner's run deep.
[50:24] They run deep here.
[50:25] And everybody is really, I think because of that chart,
[50:32] when you look at that growth,
[50:34] and the thing to keep remembering
[50:36] if there are some down here somewhere in here,
[50:40] it's not because there isn't just a tremendous team effort.
[50:43] And so I think that tremendous team efforts
[50:45] what's going to help us continue to grow.
[50:47] One thing I think if I could comment, and I think it's what's really cool is that, you
[50:54] know, one of the things we realized if we have so many natural assets to, so for instance,
[50:58] the river, and what we've got the opportunity to allow our crewing teams, which is really
[51:02] growing about the master's level at the highest level, and sometimes I think that this partnership
[51:08] benefits because, you know, we've had that ability to sort of be able to create relationships
[51:14] have said a level that maybe some of those really larger cities can't so for instance
[51:19] what our economic development folks saw in community with Richmond Bowie Ball in the need
[51:24] and the ability to make that partnership work in a way that really hadn't been necessarily
[51:30] considered before but really it win-win like all the way around and it's a win for our
[51:35] residents as well as not just the aspect of engaging and pulling people in outside. It's also how
[51:42] I think this woods up in and stop and really committed to making sure that there's
[51:47] that balancing piece of, there's real benefit to our residents to see this broad base of
[51:52] opportunities to somehow stay active in your life like, you know, pickle balls,
[51:58] an exact example to how the growth is occurring and we're listening to that and we're expanding
[52:02] that, you know, who knows what the end result of that is, but you know, I know right before I
[52:09] came on the board. I was very, very vocal about our lack of interest on a high school level
[52:14] and regular cross-in. And I said, you know, that's got to me. We've got to be always looking
[52:20] at what the active communities are looking for, and that should be in our high schools at
[52:25] every level with programming. So I think that it's really important that we're listening to you
[52:30] folks too, who are sort of the experts out there, to say, are we making sure that what we're
[52:34] doing mirrors what the public interest is, too.
[52:38] So that we don't become sort of stagnant to say,
[52:41] you know, the only thing to do is look at soccer
[52:43] or look at lacrosse.
[52:44] I mean, as it, as those opportunities expand,
[52:47] because that's why I think we can potentially continue
[52:50] to keep that horizon open to say,
[52:54] so who notes, like, will pickleball start traveling?
[52:58] Who knows, right?
[52:59] I mean, it's amazing to me to growth.
[53:02] that is happening areas like that, right, where it's just there's spending a
[53:08] folks are spending a lot of active time out there is exciting to see. So, I think that's
[53:14] the other value we get is that, you know, we want to hear from you folks like what
[53:19] opportunities exist too that we might be able to use and again, I remember from opportunities.
[53:25] I mean, I love going to sing, you know, the regardless and that aspects of folks coming in
[53:30] how we can better utilize that, you know, those, those pieces. So it has been a real
[53:36] partnership. It made me, it's only because of the relationships we built, that partnership
[53:40] is so strong. We have such communication, because I'm not sure it exists in other areas.
[53:47] That's very interesting. You say that, I said people will start traveling with people walking
[53:51] because when you think about it, that was the generation that started traveling with sports for your
[53:56] You know, I, I, I, we talked about your friends, you know, I grew up, we never stayed in the hotel.
[54:02] Like it's, they've read the hotels, you know, it, it was just a, it was just a chip.
[54:07] And so that, that's really interesting.
[54:09] I believe Florida is actually a premier pickleball tournament site for travel teams.
[54:14] And so I want to go down there and put a sign up about Chesterfield pickleball capital of the world.
[54:19] I mean, it's always looking at what the next opportunities are in the trail with no other way up and up another pickable.
[54:31] Right.
[54:31] Right.
[54:32] And I gather work just like we go to the restaurants and hotels around the River City complex.
[54:40] I gather we're starting to do that at Stonebridge because I would say that they would really appreciate that information.
[54:48] When there's a volleyball update, then it kind of a volleyball tournament in that center.
[54:53] Got the program.
[54:57] Yeah.
[54:57] I made.
[54:58] If I made.
[54:59] I just want to thank you.
[55:00] Leadership.
[55:03] And for us.
[55:04] For all your leadership.
[55:05] Gentlemen.
[55:06] Gentlemen.
[55:06] I'm off as well.
[55:07] It's a huge burden.
[55:08] It's a whirlpool.
[55:10] It customary.
[55:11] Because that's something the tourism is really working on.
[55:14] This is a customary experience.
[55:15] how we treat, you know, they come here from around the country.
[55:19] For baseball tournaments, all those events and matters,
[55:22] how we interact with them and now applaud you.
[55:25] And at the end of the day, I've always said,
[55:27] at the end of the day, it starts to answer people.
[55:30] And that's what we see in this region.
[55:32] We see exceptional people, John.
[55:34] For example, at the all you do and others
[55:37] that make a difference in this area.
[55:38] And so we don't applaud you for your outstanding efforts
[55:41] because truly you make a difference.
[55:43] And as I said, no that it pops from red, I was just emphasized as well, Dr. Worsh
[55:47] and the leadership in areas. So the customer expenses are very supportive of this
[55:51] and we appreciate all you do because we don't want to take it as your stage.
[55:55] We don't want to take it for granted.
[55:58] I'm Madam Chair, and I say one more thing, I had a pleasure meet with Dr. Worsh and his staff
[56:03] recently on the University Sportsplex. I know we're going to be leaning on you all because
[56:08] you have the global view. You have the look at Raleigh. You have the look at Delaware. And so
[56:15] as we develop out the rest of the diversity sports flags, we'll be listening intently
[56:23] to what we, what you think are are supplemental things we can consider in future budgets and cycles.
[56:31] And so I greatly appreciate that knowledge base and your expertise in that area and your staff.
[56:36] and you all very much for that.
[56:38] As a matter of fact, we're conditioned and consulted for a tourism master plan.
[56:42] And a huge component is sports tourism.
[56:45] We're working with sports backers.
[56:47] They're posted on the assets.
[56:49] And that's where we need to go.
[56:51] As you can't sit still.
[56:52] We have to keep people forward.
[56:55] Right.
[56:58] One last note to wrap up.
[57:00] We'd be remiss not to thank you all.
[57:02] Members of the Board.
[57:05] Mr. Casey.
[57:06] for showing up at some of these events and letting these event owners know that this is important
[57:12] and that leadership trickles down and I think people throughout that are working in this,
[57:19] really see that and that's really impactful. So thank you all for being part of that and I know
[57:26] public affairs team works with you on that and does a great job also of making these event owners
[57:32] a special one there here at the school. So thank you. Thank you very much.
[57:39] Yeah. So Mark, I'd say if you were to the Mr. Alzukali, answer to your question.
[57:44] Twenty-nine percent increase into the fire.
[57:49] Thank you.
[57:50] All right.
[57:51] Thank you.
[57:57] Okay.
[57:59] I'm going to start first.
[58:03] Good afternoon.
[58:04] And I would share my words with the Board, Dr. Casey,
[58:07] it's a pleasure to be back.
[58:08] I was here a year ago, and we're still having fun.
[58:13] And we're still growing, and we're still creating ambassadors
[58:17] because you're absolutely right.
[58:19] Everyone that I have in contact with, I want them to go home
[58:23] and talk about a nice, you know, what fun they had,
[58:29] It was good all of that, because I don't have the budget to go out to them, so when they come to me they're going to hopefully get the very best experience possible and they're going to go home and tell somebody, because I go out, I go home and tell people I think they're going to do that too.
[58:50] And I really am excited to be here today, especially in not last week, but same for because we have a lot of new things going on.
[58:59] We have a package in front of you.
[59:03] We have a new visitor guide that was delivered to our office Monday afternoon.
[59:09] And so you are the first floor for that, for example, to see our brand new hot-out
[59:14] depressed visitor's eye, we're excited about it.
[59:17] We think that it is water in scope that previously we think it's right and
[59:24] powerful and has less words and more pictures.
[59:28] And it has a heavier emphasis on Dani.
[59:32] It has a heavier emphasis on outdoor living, it has a heavier emphasis on all the
[59:38] and the adrenaline rushes, and it also includes all of our histories.
[59:45] And I invite you to look through that and explore.
[59:49] We also have a brand new Explorer Advantage River,
[59:53] the planning district commission and part and follow our work together on this.
[1:00:00] And we're excited to have this because we have an actual portrayal in its growing and expanding. And so we had much to add to that.
[1:00:11] And you'll see here on other collaboration, this is the 2019 conference followed. This is a planning district commission resource conservation and development collaboration.
[1:00:24] and all of your farmers markets and the farmers and producers are in food and data, so we appreciate all the input.
[1:00:36] We are in 50 days of law happening in the best part of Virginia.
[1:00:43] We started Saturday and started our resume A, and it is happening, and we're excited.
[1:00:49] that we picked it off Saturday at the Wonder City of Oklahoma,
[1:00:53] the big craft year festival and we're going strong and I would invite you to look through the events
[1:01:02] because I want to see you out without loving and having fun and you will be loving and having fun.
[1:01:08] The sum of your businesses is who are our partners. We're seeing that be a work. She's going to launch
[1:01:13] and you'll be across Friday afternoon at 4 o'clock called Lovers Club.
[1:01:20] And Saturday, we'll all be at River Fest.
[1:01:23] All the follow-ups will be at River Fest in Beijing, families,
[1:01:28] in the opportunity of the opportunities, and we will be there.
[1:01:34] We also, if you go to page two,
[1:01:39] Ashton Creek, then you're just launching a new one celebration on May 9th so we're excited
[1:01:46] to have them as a part of our 50-gays of love, April 20th, Virginia 8th, on 5-gays
[1:01:54] admission to an artist is 50% off, 50-gays of love, 50% off. The halfway house is doing special
[1:02:04] We're doing a seafood-lovers promotions
[1:02:06] through out the 58, so 1.0 and have a seafood appetizer
[1:02:11] or a seafood clatter, and they will be happy to see you,
[1:02:15] and we will be happy that you're there.
[1:02:18] And Swift Creek, we all came up with quite a creative idea.
[1:02:22] They have launched a big Facebook campaign
[1:02:25] and we're partnering with them.
[1:02:27] And they're asking people to send in their love stories
[1:02:32] from the street to maybe they met there,
[1:02:35] but rather than effortly,
[1:02:38] or some amazing were married here,
[1:02:41] or whatever, they're gonna be sending in their stories
[1:02:45] and we're gonna give two different couples
[1:02:48] of eight nights at the Crete Hill,
[1:02:51] with champagne and flowers and all of that.
[1:02:54] So that's just the chest of the heart of this,
[1:02:58] but we're excited to have the enthusiasm
[1:03:01] of which are our just field partners.
[1:03:04] We have on our board, Scott Zigan book.
[1:03:07] We have Rick Young from Halfway House, who is chair of our board, and we have great
[1:03:12] two key guys from Ashton Creek Vineyard on our board and we're really thrilled to have them
[1:03:18] and John want, is chairing our marketing committee.
[1:03:23] And he's doing a wonderful job.
[1:03:24] We're having to sort of structure that, and he is the right person at the light time.
[1:03:30] we're doing that. So we're very excited about that. And now, first of all, I want to tell you
[1:03:40] one other thing. Next week, we'll be running ads on WTBR for Hinn Rockus at Hinn
[1:03:47] like this. We've always been big supporters of Hinn Rockus events. And we are running as
[1:03:53] this week for so long with a fast on WTBR. And during the 50 days of law, part has a segment
[1:04:00] every Tuesday morning, and it's now that this week, tomorrow morning as well, talking about what's
[1:04:06] going on in the region calling attention to all of the activities associated with 50 days of
[1:04:12] love, and we are very excited because in addition to the return market, those segments will be running
[1:04:20] on those mornings in the notebook market under the TKR, so we are now able to really
[1:04:29] trucks who get into the hand-to-roads market will heavily then we have there.
[1:04:34] And it's interesting to note that I've been with two of our major attractions to get recently
[1:04:39] to tell us that Virginia Beach is the jurisdiction that they get the most visitors from
[1:04:45] outside of our area. So we have a lot of hand-to-roads interests, so we're able to tap into that.
[1:04:52] And I made a six-old year invited to pamphlet historical park for parks very first.
[1:04:58] national tourism week celebration. And we will be welcoming, we're going to
[1:05:04] make plenty from President and CEO of the Junior Tourism Corporation, who is
[1:05:10] Virginia's curator. And all of this 50A stuff comes from the fact that in 1969,
[1:05:19] 50 years ago Virginia's Toronto's launch. So that's part of partnering with Virginia
[1:05:25] tourism to call attention to that. And I had a very green of like me and a
[1:05:30] most recent creator planning district commission meeting. And every since then
[1:05:35] I shot her when I went to the mirror because I was carrying all about 50 days of
[1:05:41] love in 1969 and I asked everyone the table where were you in 1969. And Mr. Lynn's
[1:05:47] lawyer was kind enough to share with me that he didn't exist.
[1:05:53] I'm the other hand, so I'll let you succeed in the summer time if I'm not my mother's license.
[1:06:00] Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
[1:06:02] Yes, thank you so much.
[1:06:03] Thank you so much.
[1:06:04] I'm going to go wild.
[1:06:07] But I am very excited now to call attention to Chris Hall.
[1:06:11] Chris is from Helium, which is up a firm in Chocolate Slip and they built a website
[1:06:18] about seven, seven and a half years ago.
[1:06:21] And if you don't stay all and so you are doing our first
[1:06:26] and we're going to share it with you.
[1:06:29] So let me get out of the way so that I don't walk anyway.
[1:06:33] And Chris, you tell them about it.
[1:06:36] Yeah, thanks again for having us.
[1:06:40] As more dimension, we told the site six, seven years ago,
[1:06:44] and we were very proud of it, and we thought it was great.
[1:06:47] over time, internet, taste, change, and it just started to look a little whole.
[1:06:55] The three goals with the redesign really were simplicity, showing a variety of attractions
[1:07:04] and engagement.
[1:07:07] So from the engagement standpoint, you see one of the big features is this background
[1:07:11] video that loops. This was a really nice way to very quickly show your users all of the different
[1:07:20] things that they can do in the region. And it's kind of like the old photoslider that all the websites
[1:07:28] have, and over the last 10 years, the background video is fast becoming sort of a favorite splash
[1:07:35] feature with the website.
[1:07:39] The navigation was also reconfigured into simple buckets.
[1:07:46] Do eat, drink, events, plan, and stay.
[1:07:51] Very simply, you can get to the content you need to get to very quickly.
[1:07:55] And we've also recaverized a lot of our attractions, so we're not so silo, so now we have things that cross different categories.
[1:08:11] So something in sports might also be in family fun or arts and culture could be combined with attractions and museums.
[1:08:18] So, as you deep deeper into these sections, you can get down to all of the photography,
[1:08:30] it was a re-cut, and a lot of new photography was added.
[1:08:36] We took a lot of it.
[1:08:37] Just descriptions away from the main landing pages.
[1:08:41] So when the user goes deeper into these pages, they can, they can read smaller bits of content.
[1:08:50] And long-versed if they choose one of my favorite features of the website is this app travel planner.
[1:08:59] User can click this and their favorites show up in the my favorite section.
[1:09:06] So this allows you user to collect different pieces of content throughout the site.
[1:09:12] And then when they're done, they can print them out and they just have one place where they can get to all the different kinds.
[1:09:35] We just want people to know that whatever it is that they love.
[1:09:40] They can find it in the best part of the gym.
[1:09:43] So, you have questions that we have to answer them.
[1:09:46] I think I did one over.
[1:09:50] That's very exciting.
[1:09:51] Yeah.
[1:09:51] There really is.
[1:09:52] We're very excited about that.
[1:09:53] It is.
[1:09:54] It's a very exciting.
[1:09:55] I think really engages people.
[1:09:57] But we feel some new energy from the BTC campaign and then this.
[1:10:06] When we applied for the grant to BTC for 50 years of love, we had to have a minimum of 10 partners.
[1:10:16] And we thought, well, you know, with six jurisdictions, we can certainly get 10 partners.
[1:10:20] We had 24 partners, and we still have people that are getting excited and want the window
[1:10:25] on their door and want to get into the game and so I think there, you know, it's a growing
[1:10:32] recognition that we're very proud of and excited to energize our communities again.
[1:10:40] Thank you for bringing the energy you do to this because I think that's a really
[1:10:44] leadership. I will say also greatly you should walk out appreciate it. This was wonderful. I love
[1:10:49] you have a love who doesn't love murder. That's right. That's right. And I like these kids
[1:10:54] sent hot dogs too. I'm out there. I'm out there. I'm all in a whole world get war. Yeah, yeah.
[1:11:00] We were trying to figure out restaurants to include in the days, if you use 50 days. I wanted to
[1:11:07] find the restaurants in the region that were actually in business in 1969 and are still in this.
[1:11:14] Well, how about quick ones? You've been in business 93 years.
[1:11:19] Wow.
[1:11:19] They sell over 200,000 hot dogs.
[1:11:23] Oh, they must be good.
[1:11:25] You know, it's not believable.
[1:11:27] It's just unbelievable.
[1:11:28] It's just unbelievable.
[1:11:29] Yeah.
[1:11:30] Thank you.
[1:11:31] Thank you.
[1:11:31] It's a great idea.
[1:11:33] Thank you.
[1:11:34] Thank you.
[1:11:36] The next full session is a planning update.
[1:11:38] Mr. Gillis.
[1:11:43] You might leave us a little more.
[1:11:46] I don't know anything.
[1:11:47] A little more.
[1:11:54] Nice.
[1:11:56] Be happy in just a little at the moment.
[1:12:01] So may I come?
[1:12:03] All right, thanks so much for that talk.
[1:12:07] Here, listening.
[1:12:09] I think that was...
[1:12:10] Yeah.
[1:12:11] Right enough.
[1:12:13] We're all here listening.
[1:12:16] Thank you.
[1:12:16] Thank you.
[1:12:18] Hello.
[1:12:20] The main reason for this particular agenda item is when you all have to speed on the comprehensive
[1:12:28] plan of updating what's going on, where you can scroll and the visions that we've made.
[1:12:35] Excuse me and cover all that stuff for that in a minute.
[1:12:37] We thought it was also a good opportunity just to make it a little more broad, but other things are going on within the planning department.
[1:12:46] It's going to be a busy summer for us.
[1:12:49] And just to kind of let you all kind of have a peak sneak peek is to kind of what's coming around the corner and what types of projects you're going to be hearing from us in your future.
[1:13:02] I'm going to just quickly kind of go through this.
[1:13:06] You got any questions?
[1:13:07] I'll be going ahead and have to be so clear.
[1:13:11] But first of all, we have, you know, three basic plans that we're still working on
[1:13:16] in some form of fashion.
[1:13:18] The comprehensive plan update, obviously, is the Keystone project that we've been working on for almost
[1:13:24] three years.
[1:13:25] And we're right there.
[1:13:27] This is, you know, we're hopefully tonight.
[1:13:29] you guys are going to set the public hearing for May and we'll have that public hearing and bring
[1:13:37] that one across the finish line in May. Secondly, the Lothian Special Area Plan Village
[1:13:46] Special Area Plan. We've been working really hard with the stakeholders with that as well as
[1:13:52] Michael Watkins, a special architectural consultant that we hired as well, and developing a kind
[1:13:59] of working draft, we're finishing up that document, this month of early May, and then our plans
[1:14:08] are in middle of June to have a series of community meetings within, and loads of it for
[1:14:17] that plan and unveil that and have those types of conversations with the citizens of
[1:14:22] out there. So that will be a big, and then the public hearing for that for you all most likely
[1:14:29] be September is what we're looking at for that. The next item we have, which is the Jeff
[1:14:37] Davis Specialary Interimation, the Gibbs Implementation Committee keeps coming up with new ideas
[1:14:49] and things for staff to kind of perfect and bring forth that will help stimulate development.
[1:14:57] We're starting to see some of the...
[1:15:00] So that already, the transit study has been completed, the transit demonstration project, the $2 million award that
[1:15:07] Jesse got just, I guess, later earlier this month, is a huge piece of that. The market study that was part of the implementation
[1:15:17] a proof that was mentioned to you all back in, I think, as it was fall,
[1:15:25] was coming to a
[1:15:26] completion and the implementation committee is going to hear from the consultant on that next
[1:15:33] week, and we may be bringing that to you all for some sort of presentation in the near future on
[1:15:39] that. We've part of the whole Jeff Davis thing was to try to get more kind of eyes on the
[1:15:46] We've had designated code enforcement officer spending their time doing proactive code enforcement
[1:15:56] throughout the neighborhoods as well as on the commercial corridors so that's starting
[1:16:00] to pay dividends and seeing some of the clean up and of course the last weekend we had
[1:16:04] with the cleanup programs out in the various neighborhoods there where it was a big success.
[1:16:11] And there were 12 tons of trash, full tons.
[1:16:19] Well, some of the other ideas that the implementation committee has been coming up with
[1:16:24] as one is a performance agreement policy, and I'm not going to go into too much detail
[1:16:28] on it.
[1:16:29] But basically the idea of someone had a kind of a cattle's project that was, say, $5 million
[1:16:36] more that was going to be infused into the area. So in the way that we could basically reduce
[1:16:48] their real estate taxes from to 8% per 7 year period of times to give them some of the stimulus
[1:16:57] to go ahead and invest in that particular project. That we're refining that performance agreement,
[1:17:03] policy and we'll be bringing that back to you all in the near future. One of the other
[1:17:09] interesting word of a land use techniques is creation of a new overlay that we're going to
[1:17:15] place on top of the existing C3 and C5 zoning district. That's kind of our more flexible,
[1:17:23] commercial zoning districts. But we have a ton of it was in the Jeff Davis corridor.
[1:17:31] However, it does not allow for multi-family development.
[1:17:36] So, our thought is for some of the smaller site, like a three to five acres in size,
[1:17:43] would be an optimal infant project where if they met the certain criteria that were establishing
[1:17:48] for that multi-family project, we would make multi-family use, and I buy right opportunity
[1:17:56] within that C3 and C5 industry.
[1:17:59] And that would be just for this, you know, geographically, the linearity area, and it's another technique they're trying to get some newer types of urban style residential development that started occurring along that spine of the Jeff Davis corridor.
[1:18:15] And then a more broader and bigger zoning district creation of a new kind of urban mixed use district that would allow for larger projects 10, 20 plus acre sites.
[1:18:29] It could have a combination of multi-family as well as commercial office, entertainment,
[1:18:38] type uses of a more flexible kind of zoning district that could be manipulated and
[1:18:45] create just a more customized opportunity without having to go through kind of our typical
[1:18:53] the CUPD process that we usually drop in the program.
[1:18:57] So those are some of the newer things we're looking at on the
[1:19:00] project.
[1:19:02] As for the process improvements, of course you've heard me talk at length about the whole
[1:19:07] new zoning and review and the approval process we essentially started that in December.
[1:19:14] But if we started the technical review committees, remember it's kind of the heart of that.
[1:19:18] That started in January, so we've had about a half dozen of those technical review committees.
[1:19:23] Again, that's the kind of in-house around-table review of each project where we have all the different county departments that have an active role in the land development sitting around having the discussion and making that list of their concerns and critique of the projects.
[1:19:40] And then we're getting those comments out at the end of the week to the to the advocacy.
[1:19:45] We're trying to speed up that commentary and substantial as that's gone.
[1:19:50] We have 27 cases in that queueing for that here.
[1:19:54] See that.
[1:19:55] It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's not.
[1:19:57] What's somebody's dating the cases that say this is really deep,
[1:20:02] Everybody in the meeting.
[1:20:04] Yeah, we have it set up.
[1:20:06] I think that there's some cases that are minor and
[1:20:10] You know,
[1:20:11] maybe more, you know, planning department oriented.
[1:20:15] We've got it separated so that, you know,
[1:20:17] one part of the day or morning,
[1:20:19] it says sign for the more multi-disciplinary projects
[1:20:22] and then the ones that are more just kind of planning related
[1:20:25] would be later in that morning.
[1:20:27] So we've separated that.
[1:20:29] There may be some others that basically get a pass
[1:20:31] for even having to go before the TRC
[1:20:34] because there's really not a whole lot of interaction
[1:20:37] between the departments.
[1:20:38] but some of our conditional uses and so forth.
[1:20:43] So that's going to be interesting.
[1:20:44] One of the things we're bringing to the Planning Commission next month
[1:20:48] is kind of some new improvements with public engagement.
[1:20:51] We've been trying to kind of rethink not only just our website
[1:20:54] and how we can make what are used on our website,
[1:20:57] but also kind of how to get around the inundrum of having a good public engagement,
[1:21:05] But not having to hold a community meeting for everything that we do.
[1:21:10] And the idea of trying to do more of that either through a video on our website or having
[1:21:16] some sort of opportunities to get kind of a taped overview of that particular project or
[1:21:24] anybody, you know, if they get home at 1039, they can click on that link and see what that
[1:21:30] what that particular project near their house is being, is proposing without having to, you know,
[1:21:37] hear Marco, when they night leave their kids and those sit in public schools somewhere.
[1:21:43] That's a real good point because I don't think it's required under any statute that we do these needs.
[1:21:49] We do them for the specific purpose of public outreach.
[1:21:53] And again, get input.
[1:21:54] But so I think that's a very good comment.
[1:21:59] More and more is being done online.
[1:22:01] Right.
[1:22:02] It just seems that we could utilize and leverage that.
[1:22:04] I want to try to use some other aspects within the new
[1:22:07] Civic Plus kind of website that we have.
[1:22:11] That's called Civic Sand.
[1:22:12] It can get comments.
[1:22:13] It's going to do kind of online surveys.
[1:22:15] We're going to try to take more advantage of a lot of those
[1:22:18] type of tools that are within that software.
[1:22:24] You said something I just want to come in on and give you a different perspective.
[1:22:29] On your technical review committee, you said, again, you get a group together
[1:22:34] and to really talk about or get come up with a list of concerns.
[1:22:40] I would rather turn that around and say, and we get a list of advantages of having this business come
[1:22:44] into the county because if thinking of our staff is, why are there what concerns do we have
[1:22:51] with what the VISTA community wants to do.
[1:22:54] It puts them on a defensive right away
[1:22:56] that they're coming in to a negative environment
[1:22:59] rather than coming in and saying,
[1:23:01] how staff gonna help us accomplish this.
[1:23:04] It may sound matter, but when you say it or listen to concerns,
[1:23:08] it's makes me think we're trying to figure out why we don't want this
[1:23:11] or what restrictions we're gonna put on someone
[1:23:15] that wants to do business in the county.
[1:23:17] And just that mindset so that we can kind of
[1:23:20] the start, charting that in the other ways, and how they think there are many times, many
[1:23:27] more advantages and disadvantages.
[1:23:31] So, I'll probably use the wrong words, sorry about that, but the idea that, you know, what we're
[1:23:36] trying to do is make sure that we get the best product possible for the county and the applicant
[1:23:43] to come out of the review process so that we can be ready to have a worthwhile community meeting
[1:23:51] and be ready to go to the public hearing and get this thing through the issue that much
[1:23:55] faster. That's the old hall to make a lot of this private flow holes in their design and what
[1:24:01] have you have coming? I think it did take a word of that quite a lot of thought.
[1:24:07] You'd probably be better to have like the technical review.
[1:24:12] Many, you know, to make sure it's meeting standards.
[1:24:16] And you said, well, that's really good.
[1:24:20] So then I guess from an awareness thing.
[1:24:22] I don't mean to interrupt, but you know, one of the things too,
[1:24:25] as you go through these things, I've realized the zoning ordinance
[1:24:27] is going to go through a fairly comprehensive amendment.
[1:24:30] But sometimes our own disadvantages is our own anchor
[1:24:34] of some antiquated zoning ordinance language.
[1:24:39] So, a lot of times, but if we say, now we have to be polite and say,
[1:24:42] we really believe it's because of a language situation,
[1:24:46] so it's going to go back to Mr. Oslo, it's point.
[1:24:48] We need to be on the same page with the applicant
[1:24:50] that is certain part of the zoning ordinance may not be fitting.
[1:24:53] What is a good product and how we can work together to bring this case forward,
[1:24:59] recognize the fact that we may need to accept
[1:25:00] to an ordinance that that again can cause with is another perspective.
[1:25:06] That's a good segue in the next thing I would like to talk about.
[1:25:10] We're working on trying to put together an IRP for the new zoning ordinance with that.
[1:25:18] But trying to make sure we have internal discussions with various departments as well as kind of our frequent fires just throughout the zoning process to get there.
[1:25:28] kind of first takes as to what things really need to get adjusted with the new zoning ordinance.
[1:25:35] And I want you all to understand that as we go forward with that new zoning ordinance process,
[1:25:40] we're still not going to stop making certain adjustments necessary adjustments to the older zoning ordinance.
[1:25:48] Because we understand what is a kind of a longer process.
[1:25:52] And we still need to stay fairly nimble or make some changes to the existing zoning ordinance.
[1:25:56] So we'll have to be kind of balancing that going both.
[1:26:00] You'll be seeing still seeing some zoning amendments
[1:26:04] come before you for the existing zoning ordinance
[1:26:06] over the next year or so just to keep up
[1:26:09] is that keep me trying to stay up with the times
[1:26:13] as much as we can until we get the new document in place.
[1:26:16] Did you envision it being a local firm?
[1:26:20] Just don't bring me no California firm
[1:26:22] in here to rewrite our system.
[1:26:24] My local, if you mean Virginia, maybe, I'm going to try to cast a fairly large net, I'm not sure
[1:26:36] California firm would be that interested or cost effective to come here.
[1:26:42] But I do think some of the perspectives of other communities on the East Coast could be used here to advance our development.
[1:26:50] So we'll see, well, we're the process of writing that RFP.
[1:27:00] As for affordances right now, we're working on half dozen different zoning amendments.
[1:27:08] Right now that you'll be seeing soon the solar facilities amendment that we have coming forward.
[1:27:13] That's to see helping us divide in the old days of solar facilities with a fall into kind of a power plant kind of category.
[1:27:22] And again, Dr. Casey mentioned it was kind of whole language and an old zoning ornament.
[1:27:27] And the idea of getting that cleaned up is high priority when we're working on that right now.
[1:27:36] The sign ordinance, sign amendments, we're working on that.
[1:27:39] That should be coming forward to you soon.
[1:27:41] Huffers with Crete and some of the tree canopy language.
[1:27:45] We're changing some of that.
[1:27:46] You'll be seeing that soon.
[1:27:47] That says in the hand retaining walls, we're making some changes to that that you've seen as a need and is a quick fix that we can get done.
[1:27:56] And of course the zoning application which kind of goes along with the zoning process where we've met with, I think everybody in
[1:28:05] Creative Richmond on the net topic I think is going to pretty well cover, we should be bringing that back for you.
[1:28:10] Right. And then the vast manufacturing is another one on our list.
[1:28:13] So those are the various items we have kind of on our work list for this summer and early fall.
[1:28:22] That's an addition to all the cases that they might come in your way.
[1:28:26] But that I'm going to shut up and let Steve get into the comprehensive plan.
[1:28:34] First I'll start off with a joke because Matt Harris, someone need to do that.
[1:28:38] So I always follow the rock.
[1:28:42] What does the pod do when his car got wrecked?
[1:28:45] You got it.
[1:28:49] Okay.
[1:28:49] I can't imagine.
[1:28:51] You just don't get away.
[1:28:52] This is a planning job.
[1:28:54] All right.
[1:28:55] That's a fiscal joke.
[1:28:57] Thanks, man.
[1:28:59] I'm probably going to continue.
[1:29:01] Or one.
[1:29:03] All right.
[1:29:03] So we've been at this plan as India said for almost three years.
[1:29:08] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[1:29:14] I'll probably begin in July of 16.
[1:29:16] Your party commissioners have worked very hard on this document.
[1:29:20] They have gone through each of the 16 chapters of this comprehensive plan with a fine
[1:29:24] to come.
[1:29:25] I would like to say three times in total since we've started this process.
[1:29:29] We have had a lot of citizen input throughout the three years.
[1:29:33] We've been at this project.
[1:29:35] So we have engaged the citizens in a variety of ways through the website, in community
[1:29:39] meetings and meetings with them in person. We have done our best of course
[1:29:44] communication and media. I will see the power back there has been a great help in
[1:29:48] pushing this effort to social media using Facebook and doing some targeted
[1:29:52] blasts with our videos and everything else. I feel very pleased with the outreach
[1:29:57] effort we have done on this project. I think
[1:30:00] We have informed a lot of the citizens and we've heard a lot of this feedback from the community and what we've been up to. Since we've met in October, our joint meeting, which was changed after some bad weather events, we have not done a whole lot of major revisions to the plan.
[1:30:15] We've tried to keep staying stable, what we've heard from the community in our fall outreach in 2018, pretty much confirmed the direction we were heading in.
[1:30:23] people are are generally happy with the direction of our vision in the
[1:30:26] comprehensive plan and where we want this county to be 20 years from now, going
[1:30:30] in the course that we'll have this direction between now and then, and just to
[1:30:34] give you overview of the chapters again, we haven't done a lot of major philosophical
[1:30:39] changes to where we want to go on how we want to go over the 2012 plan. I would say
[1:30:44] the two biggest changes or chapter changes that we have done is housing and
[1:30:48] revitalization. Housing because our housing chapter frankly was very weak and
[1:30:52] not really provides any good guidance to what we expect our community to be.
[1:30:57] And that's important because, as you know, the majority of our county is made up of
[1:31:01] neighborhoods and communities and those are very important places.
[1:31:04] If our communities go down here, our county quickly follows the health of those communities
[1:31:08] is very important to us and making sure that as we go forward into the future that we're
[1:31:14] accommodating of a variety of lifestyles and supporting a range of housing types and
[1:31:19] community lifestyles for people with them is going to be very important.
[1:31:21] It's not one size, so it's all just one count.
[1:31:24] We've got to have a variety of communities living arrangements for all walks of life and for all all types of people.
[1:31:30] Yeah, and I would like to comment that on that because I do see on those bits and housing.
[1:31:34] You know, we always use the term affordable housing.
[1:31:37] I feel like that's kind of a buzzword in the industry and affordable housing.
[1:31:44] I mean, not that you don't want affordable housing, but affordable housing,
[1:31:49] I think the concerns are when you're in your major metropolitan areas and you can't afford
[1:31:55] to live there.
[1:31:56] When you think about affordable housing in just fields, really unaffordable housing in
[1:32:03] just a field that is what will create the revitalization and the desire that they're going
[1:32:08] to are in a room because you can afford the housing that's on there.
[1:32:13] So sometimes I think we could just put those words in there because that's what the industry's
[1:32:17] talking about, but I'm having a harsh time really figuring out how your complaint is applying
[1:32:26] that.
[1:32:26] So I just think it's something that we can need to think about.
[1:32:31] Yeah, now I think what we've done in this, the draft that's before you, is we've defined
[1:32:37] for what housing is really, it's not like a targeted income range.
[1:32:40] It's really a matter of whatever your income is, are you able to sufficiently live in your
[1:32:46] without paying an undo amount of money to that housing cost, whether you're a millionaire or whether you're, you know, on the lower end of the spectrum, you know, there's housing burdens all in the spectrum.
[1:32:57] So what we try to do here is kind of set the stage that affordable housing is something that's important to our community.
[1:33:03] And then what we want to do is on the implementation section as we want to undertake an affordable housing strategy and Dan Cohen shop is, it's really in the way on that,
[1:33:11] Well, we investigate one of the tools available to us in Virginia to really address some of those needs, and then bring those forward to you all, and the hiring commission to see which of those tools would best suit trust your county and how we might deploy them.
[1:33:25] So we really have never done that exercise about, you know, what is Virginia law allowed us as a county to do one of the best practices out there, the whole counties are doing, and then bringing that to you all.
[1:33:35] So we can determine which of those tools can not all of them are going to fit us.
[1:33:39] Which of those tools would best help us in our goals for 4,000 or 4,000 or 4,000 times?
[1:33:43] But the plan really sets the stage to point that out as an important issue for our community.
[1:33:48] Without what is solving it at this point.
[1:33:50] And it's not a mistake that we put neighborhoods and housing in the same chapter, because the whole sustainability of the neighborhood is really the main character.
[1:34:00] Hard of it all, I'm right.
[1:34:02] And of course revitalization, we've learned a lot since 2012 about where we want to go through revitalization.
[1:34:08] Thanks, Dr. Casey, we have a new department community enhancement that is tasked with every day coming into work, saying how they can make our communities better places.
[1:34:16] So, that this plan reflects the direction of that department, Dan Cohen is ways in heavily on that, by this additional alterations there.
[1:34:24] of some mutual identifications as well.
[1:34:26] But those are really the most significant chapters.
[1:34:30] I think change-wise that we have done in the plan, of course,
[1:34:32] our implementation chapter is very important
[1:34:34] because it's a new plan.
[1:34:36] So we have a new set of projects identified.
[1:34:38] For more specifically, since the fall, when we last met,
[1:34:42] we've added several things.
[1:34:44] Some at the suggestion of U.S. board members,
[1:34:46] some we've heard from citizens and some things
[1:34:48] from the plan of commission.
[1:34:50] One chapter four, we've added a map to an vacant residential
[1:34:52] So if you remember in our demographics and trends chapter, we went on a table form, how much vacant residential zone land is still out here in the county because I think people lose lose that number and and you know as they talk about the county be able to amend this amount of zone land still to go and then on top of that I think we heard from you all the four members it's not not to just see a number where is all that land located so we've added them after kind of gives people perspectives that it's not just in the left and part of the county.
[1:35:21] We have large swats of undeveloped Brazil-ized land throughout our districts.
[1:35:28] That we need to figure out why does that need to be used?
[1:35:30] And what do you do, too?
[1:35:32] Do you, you know, grow that way rather than everything has to have to have to have to live a dinner.
[1:35:37] And I chuck a seven revitalization, of course we change names with traffic as a lunchevirus,
[1:35:41] various various strategies.
[1:35:42] Now it's revitalization.
[1:35:45] Then I want to undertake a separate revitalization strategy which is more specific actions
[1:35:49] and task focus, then what the comp plan can do, so that reflects his direction and
[1:35:55] mantra, I believe, is there. And again, CE as we're viewed the chapter and identified
[1:36:00] additional tools available in Virginia, in a list format, and how we might use them in
[1:36:05] Joshua County, and I'm sure as he goes forward, he'll be bringing those to you as those
[1:36:09] developed. Chapter 10, the land use plan map, Mr. Gales, it's talk to you about the
[1:36:15] new zoning ordinance that our government needs to undertake, I would say once,
[1:36:18] but needs to undertake this as long as we're due.
[1:36:21] Then we undertake that exercise.
[1:36:23] I'm sure there's going to be things that
[1:36:26] new ways of thinking that we're going to want to bring back
[1:36:28] into chapter 10 of our comprehensive plan
[1:36:31] once that exercise is done.
[1:36:33] So we have not deliberately made major changes to our land use
[1:36:35] chapter as far as the philosophy of broken development.
[1:36:38] We have other more guidelines and more information to that chapter
[1:36:42] that helps citizens understand what the county is building for,
[1:36:45] build up, but zoning means to the comprehensive plan of how that relationship works, and then, of course,
[1:36:51] a more simplified land use vision rather than the mix of colors that can kind of be
[1:36:55] mind on them and also that's in the second. But what we really want to do is once that zoning
[1:37:00] ordinance project is completed and adopted, we're going to come back to the board with amendments to
[1:37:05] chapter 10 to again reflect that new direction zoning. So the complaint and zoning are now in sync.
[1:37:10] We have been out of sync for a long time with our zoning ordinance, because the zoning
[1:37:14] is been stuck since 1990, or our client has continued moving forward in time. So we're going to
[1:37:20] line those that up together and make sure that they support each other that way. As far as
[1:37:27] other for the changes, the planning commission did determine in the specific area plans chapter,
[1:37:33] a prioritization order for the next round and future specific area plans. And if you're
[1:37:40] state and once there are recommendations, you can go with that.
[1:37:43] Really quickly, you need us to say this to Jackson, make sure that the daily area, along
[1:37:47] with the people of specterate plan is at the top of that list.
[1:37:51] Chapter 13 of transportation.
[1:37:53] The only real change we did there, I think Mr. Nicholas came from you was add some
[1:37:57] more guidance on proactive acquisition of right away.
[1:38:00] So, getting the right away ahead of development rather than the government doesn't place
[1:38:03] and then we gotta take people's houses down or try to acquire land as much more expensive
[1:38:08] after the area is developed. And then for chapter 15, well, and so also at least people in
[1:38:14] one vote. I mean that, it's not just the money, it's the leader of the law, I mean, I mean not
[1:38:20] being able to sell their home or to many people in their home. So much expectation of the
[1:38:24] my and the right away or my. And for chapter 15, public facilities, we'll major changes there.
[1:38:29] I'll throw a socket for you since since the fall. We, the planning commission,
[1:38:35] I think based on the discussion we had at the fall, joint meeting, then we had really felt
[1:38:43] that we needed to have more direction for the school section of the public facilities plan.
[1:38:48] There's some efforts underway in county administration to do a more detailed job on forecasting
[1:38:53] impacts on public facilities, specifically with schools.
[1:38:57] And so we really want to let that exercise mature before we make any further recommendations
[1:39:02] in the school section. So there, recommendation to you all was not to change anything in the
[1:39:07] school section of the Public Facilities Plan at this time. Lead the 2012 plan in place,
[1:39:12] which covers adequately new facilities that we might need until such time as the two boards
[1:39:18] can come in a further direction for households will undertake future facilities and future
[1:39:24] reinvestment in those areas. So that will come back to you all quite a later time,
[1:39:29] maybe next year with an amendment specific to the school section of the plan,
[1:39:32] What you are, are welcome to do at any time, you can amend any part of the comprehensive plan on the sequence whenever there's a week.
[1:39:39] And if I could interject, we're setting up a meeting of Dr. Dardy's team and our team of physical related and planning just to illustrate what a plan is.
[1:39:48] Because we're orienting on that, what a community facility plan is, what a CIP is, what a bond referendum is.
[1:39:55] And again, as you all know, the CIP, especially, you know, and again, over the last five years since the last plan has been adopted, we've done tremendous things in our CIP relative to new schools and pivoting from renovation to new, so it's not as if the community facilities plan is an anchor, it's necessarily to our school improvement plans, and where there is a team where there to do what we think is right in each budgetary process.
[1:40:19] So again, between what Mr. Carmine's exercise will be with getting probably the best data we had,
[1:40:24] geographic specific to school districts rather than just a generic one or half a child for
[1:40:30] household, which may not necessarily work throughout the county. But again, that's an orientation
[1:40:35] in the process that I'm a hopeful doctorate will understand and appreciate and respect as we don't
[1:40:40] necessarily need to hold up an entire section of the compound and by default the entire
[1:40:45] a complaint for what we host today, just again, a productive discussion.
[1:40:49] And Mr. Holland and I, we had the school's version and we didn't feel comfortable enough.
[1:40:56] Just in yesterday's meeting, we were able to look at it and pass it up to this board.
[1:41:01] And if you say, you know, because it hasn't been out of the book, and we haven't fully edited it.
[1:41:06] But a couple of things I can show us have a chance to leave that in all the way.
[1:41:10] And there were a couple things that came up and we did discuss, when you look at renovations,
[1:41:18] if you're not adding capacity, just even really belong in the comprehensive plan, if you're replaced in this school.
[1:41:25] And I mean, I think they made a point in, does it really have to be specific in the complex,
[1:41:31] what schools are going to be built and renovated over the next tax amount of years,
[1:41:36] because when you look at what Dr. Casey pointed out when you look at our comprehensive plan,
[1:41:44] it didn't have any of what we've done, so there's that.
[1:41:47] But I mean, I also think we should probably discuss when you look at your comprehensive plan
[1:41:54] and your facilities to me, it makes more sense that the state has certain guidelines of where
[1:42:01] school should be located, so it would seem to me once those guidelines and met, I would think would be more the role of the Board of Supervisors to choose who the location is, because you're looking at a bigger picture.
[1:42:14] You know, the school are just looking at operating it. We need to be looking at how does the school fit into what the retail is going to be, what the other public facilities are going to be, what neighborhoods are there.
[1:42:26] I mean, I just, I don't know what the laws are on that, but it looked to me with, I showed
[1:42:30] something in my code.
[1:42:31] It looked to me like, and right before the supervisors pursue this and buys it.
[1:42:37] So I'm not, just think it's food for thought as to what, you know, why would they in isolation
[1:42:42] choose the location of the school that really doesn't have anything to do with what their job
[1:42:49] is?
[1:42:49] Unless the state says you're supposed to, I, do I, do I, because we end up with me on them.
[1:42:55] necessarily makes sense. Yeah, yeah. If I made my own chair, I can
[1:42:59] curve fully with that assessment. Because I remember when we built the new
[1:43:03] Bulusville, we we that I directed to look at areas of science, five
[1:43:08] sites, the choose the best site economically that was there,
[1:43:12] concerning the neighborhood. So I really do fully in that regard. The
[1:43:15] board of supervisors is this chart with building facilities provided
[1:43:18] facilities. The school is charged with using them effectively and had
[1:43:23] So another point I want to pivot from that you mentioned, if I may briefly, and that is on the data on the data for garter school use and seats in accounting.
[1:43:33] I think involved and talked about the need to look at redistricting and altering the school's seat capacity rather than just building schools.
[1:43:42] because we want to make sure all available seats are used in our county that we can't
[1:43:47] efficiently and why so knowing that it can cause concerns and families with feeder paddles,
[1:43:53] patterns, but I think we got to be aware of that because when you look at the calls of the
[1:43:58] new schools that we mentioned in the liaison being yesterday, $100 million on new high school
[1:44:03] is a significant investment that affects the county for years to come, the tax fails, the interest
[1:44:08] calls and in the future use so that something we have to be really cognizant if and so I have
[1:44:15] to read that statement fully and we did talk about we did bring up the idea of high
[1:44:20] schools you know if anything I think elementary schools will probably pretty much stay the
[1:44:25] same but when you think about high schools between online between text schools between
[1:44:30] internship between going to John Tyler you know maybe we really need to think about when I
[1:44:36] model can, you know, even from 2012, a monocone was at 85% when you look in the school in the 2012
[1:44:45] and it's now at 65%. So we've really got to think you're at how to utilize that space
[1:44:52] we can do by school. And like I said, I do think that will change somewhat.
[1:44:58] Well, I think that's why we're all
[1:45:00] All really anticipating the work that Alan Carme and his team are doing that will be that, fair, final work that we can make a lot of forecasts in the decision based on the particular public facilities and schools issues.
[1:45:13] So I think that's really... It probably makes a lot of sense based upon that for us to just carry this in this way. And then amend that chapter later as necessary.
[1:45:24] I think it's really important to talk about the school issue.
[1:45:31] What will the next board to be seated in January?
[1:45:35] What will they use to support a future referendum on the early stages of planning for a referendum?
[1:45:42] In the past, you've used the comprehensive plan very effectively to advocate for future improvements that will be funded through a bond referendum.
[1:45:52] And the lion's share of that seems to go to the schools historically anyway, so, you know, as I recall, we had really two big project schools in the public safety radio system on the bomber for the last time around.
[1:46:08] So, you know, if you build a document right, you would have instant advocacy platform for just a fines on me, we really looked at this, and we determined with some, you know, real study.
[1:46:22] that there is a future need that has to be funded,
[1:46:25] and it's one way of justifying it.
[1:46:27] Well, I think that unlike subagulast
[1:46:31] reference, there are some government needs
[1:46:33] that we have sort of not advocated
[1:46:38] because of the significant sort of hindering,
[1:46:42] the significant need that schools had.
[1:46:47] And so I think there's going to have to be that balancing also
[1:46:49] an interest when it comes to what the government side needs
[1:46:52] as well as we anticipate that and hopefully those conversations we can start even now in anticipation
[1:46:58] of the fact that what we know on the school's line it would be a completely ignored.
[1:47:04] We're going to be important to have a consensus right to these questions.
[1:47:07] So hopefully again that these data that comes out and allowing us to really see what demographic
[1:47:15] trends are, what growth trends are in things like that is going to be critically important on both sides
[1:47:19] to have those conversations and start those conversations.
[1:47:22] And I can tell you that chair to chair Mr. Combs,
[1:47:25] and I have had those conversations about us looking
[1:47:28] at that data when it comes out.
[1:47:29] Starting down that line.
[1:47:31] All right,
[1:47:36] just want to be negative.
[1:47:38] But to just give you a little bit of idea of some of the things
[1:47:40] that we've heard at the public hearings
[1:47:42] for the commission, as well as from some citizen comments
[1:47:46] that you might expect when you have your public hearing
[1:47:47] because you've scheduled an MA.
[1:47:49] There's been a lot of concern over section of the plan relative to residential development adjacent to existing residential development.
[1:47:57] There was a zoning case that came up that kind of plan some of this a little bit.
[1:48:02] But there's a philosophy out there that stack just doesn't agree with when the planning commission does not either.
[1:48:08] That all neighborhoods should be similar in size similar in house type house price point, those kind of things.
[1:48:15] Our comprehensive plan really sets forward more general density guidelines and in whatever
[1:48:20] a lot size you meet to get to meet that maximum density is really up to the market to the size.
[1:48:26] So again, we don't believe in the one size fits all approach. However, there you may hear
[1:48:31] at your public hearing from some statements to the population that are somewhat fairly organized
[1:48:35] that is something they don't agree with. But again, that is something that we had a discussion
[1:48:39] with the money commission I went about and it's going to staff and feel that we should be supporting
[1:48:46] a range of housing types and densities even on properties where they are adjacent to each
[1:48:50] other. As long as it's not primarily access through that existing neighborhood. So I just want
[1:48:56] to ask a question about that. So what there's what that point that solar making is that older
[1:49:04] development should determine newer development.
[1:49:09] Yes, so it's all in the ground, so because it got their first, it should determine
[1:49:14] what goes their net. And is there any, is there any caveats to that? Is there any other
[1:49:19] because there are any exceptions to that that you're hearing in terms of, no, okay.
[1:49:24] Well, I think that's the way things had always been done and always the perception that whatever you
[1:49:31] built around you was going to be the same.
[1:49:36] And, you know, for many years, two-story Colonials,
[1:49:39] that that was the only kind of house that there was.
[1:49:42] And so people were fine with that
[1:49:44] because that's what the market was demanding.
[1:49:47] But things have changed.
[1:49:48] And there's different market demands.
[1:49:50] It's not the same group of people moving into neighborhoods.
[1:49:55] People want different styles.
[1:49:56] So the market really needs to reflect that.
[1:49:58] Steven, didn't there a caveat when you're expanding and existing neighborhood that that might be a realistic expectation like extending the street?
[1:50:06] Right. They're already part of a zoning case and that expectation set. That's one thing.
[1:50:10] But if you're a virgin land and you're coming in for a zoning, I think there's a same elaboration that thinks that you should ask for the same zoning.
[1:50:17] That's the next story. You should build the same thing.
[1:50:19] Definitely if you're part of a existing subdivision and they're just building out the rest of that,
[1:50:23] we should have an expectation bottom of that neighborhood that it's going to reflect somewhat.
[1:50:28] But I mean, used to be, you know, the expectation was that the state, you have the same size.
[1:50:33] Lots and the neighborhood next to you, you have the same size.
[1:50:36] We're putting it to housing with that change.
[1:50:39] People aren't demanding the same size of lots and they're not demanding the same size housing.
[1:50:45] They want higher quality within it, but a smaller footprint.
[1:50:49] Yeah.
[1:50:49] We're finding house size.
[1:50:50] It used to be a determinant quality that it's now working against us,
[1:50:54] people aren't looking for house size, they're looking for location, they're looking for amenities,
[1:50:58] and those kinds of things, naturally they're not focused on the fall of the ground, and that's
[1:51:02] how big it is. No, I think you keep in mind, our really successful large communities,
[1:51:07] Brandon Bell, would like. And they're all mixed, size, developed, but Jason, to one another. Right.
[1:51:14] That's true. I know you see that in wood like, you know, it's still still young families in there because
[1:51:19] They can go over them and then they move to a larger air, right?
[1:51:24] Yeah, agree with you.
[1:51:24] I think you're right.
[1:51:26] Yeah.
[1:51:26] So just so you have a heads up.
[1:51:27] You may hear some of them.
[1:51:29] I'm in the department.
[1:51:29] We also have a lot of little versus should and I'll look to check here.
[1:51:33] But we are adamant in our conference of plan that we do not use the word real shell.
[1:51:38] This is not an ordinance.
[1:51:39] It is a visionary guiding document.
[1:51:41] Our zoning ordinance tells you if you must do and what you're required to do.
[1:51:45] We keep that language out of the confland, but some people want to use the confland.
[1:51:49] as the hammer to fight against development cases or certain things that they don't want to see in the community.
[1:51:55] We just don't think that's appropriate.
[1:51:57] You're heads up, you'll get some of that probably too.
[1:52:00] There's anything mandatory in it.
[1:52:02] Right.
[1:52:03] It's not different.
[1:52:04] It's a plan.
[1:52:05] And it's like defying to see a guideline over.
[1:52:08] In my own observation of this, there are some even councils.
[1:52:12] We worked at developers attorney to work in localities that have the will and
[1:52:16] language and they've actually had to pause in their cases while the locality amended the
[1:52:21] complaint to accommodate the case. And there are certain localities one of which I made
[1:52:26] work for that that had to do that. And that just that just elongates the process.
[1:52:32] In the same vein you'll see the plan versus owning one. So be things like one of the things
[1:52:37] that came up extensively in your district, Mr. Helgwick, was the landfill issue. While we were
[1:52:43] to say in the confidence of plan that there will never ever be another landfill in this county.
[1:52:48] We just can't put that kind of language in the compound. So what we have done is our best to
[1:52:52] start the line legally saying we don't want any more landfills. I just say we don't want them in a
[1:52:56] park a district. Did you? We tried putting in the COVID hill, but I think it's probably
[1:53:01] what they did. You get two nos on that one. But you will have a confusion over the
[1:53:06] plan versus zoning orders and they want to have things in the plan that's really
[1:53:10] we're appropriating a zoning or a certain uses, certain types of development, certain restrictions
[1:53:13] on, you know, government standards.
[1:53:16] Those, again, are all zoning ordinance things.
[1:53:18] We tried.
[1:53:18] We added into this content that you have before you, a section that tries to explain to the
[1:53:23] public the difference between zoning and the content and how they work together.
[1:53:27] So, you may hear a little bit confusing there.
[1:53:28] And then, of course, the East West Freeway.
[1:53:31] They're pretty well-lunch.
[1:53:32] You know, the segment there.
[1:53:33] They want the line taking off the Fair Park plan.
[1:53:35] However, that East West Freeway has been on our Fair Park for 189.
[1:53:38] And until we have a decision that the Southern Western part of the county is going to be permanently rule,
[1:53:45] that line will stay on our corporate plan because the government could occur,
[1:53:48] and we do accommodate the transportation needs if that should happen.
[1:53:53] So that's our thinking that way.
[1:53:55] So I would also like to comment on that.
[1:53:57] I mean, that's not saying that some of it will still remain rural,
[1:54:02] even though there's a road to it.
[1:54:04] I mean, that won't stay rural.
[1:54:06] It can still stay rural and it depends on if you just don't give access to certain areas.
[1:54:11] But the idea of never giving the future, the opportunity to have a way to get from one end of the county to the other.
[1:54:18] I mean, I don't think anyone on this board will do that to a future board.
[1:54:22] But I think it needs to be made clear that, although they are made.
[1:54:27] I mean, you, you've got many areas and you see you can, you drive on a road.
[1:54:31] There's absolutely nothing around that.
[1:54:33] That doesn't mean it's taking you all of the people.
[1:54:36] You got to know where the bones are going to be for the nature development of the
[1:54:40] society.
[1:54:40] It's been 20 years.
[1:54:42] Yeah.
[1:54:43] In their place, we'll say that important made a good decision rather than pop where those
[1:54:48] foods.
[1:54:48] I think about that.
[1:54:49] That's right.
[1:54:50] That's right.
[1:54:50] We're not going to be to food.
[1:54:52] If you're a immigrant, you're in a harbour point somewhere over there.
[1:54:56] You're going to be able to get to Chester in a direct and quick fashion.
[1:55:01] And it's just over time, it's going to get harder and harder to make that timely trip.
[1:55:08] Just because we're in direct, we're in direct and then to have you serve fairs, but
[1:55:12] are already having heavy traffic, rather than giving the mail turn to the Z-Broad with cars.
[1:55:18] So it just makes sense without us pre-defining that all the world goes away just because of that.
[1:55:26] So I think we'll be in the safe, so.
[1:55:28] And that's where our land use plant region matters here.
[1:55:30] So this is the new map we've added into our chapter 10.
[1:55:33] This helps to explain to the public really what the philosophy of plan is.
[1:55:36] The green is our rural area that we want to keep rural,
[1:55:39] full and sense of purposes, the Spanish areas are neighborhoods.
[1:55:43] We want to make sure our neighbors are healthy, thriving places,
[1:55:45] attractive to new families and retirees as well.
[1:55:48] And then you see the circles up there.
[1:55:51] And the circles are varying levels of regional and community centers.
[1:55:55] And this is kind of the emphasis of our confidence of plan.
[1:55:58] Now, we have plenty of suburban living lifestyle choices
[1:56:01] if that's what you prefer.
[1:56:02] We have a whole big section of rural,
[1:56:05] if that's what you prefer.
[1:56:06] I'm also saddening like I can.
[1:56:08] What we do not have in this county,
[1:56:10] and where we are putting a lot of our emphasis
[1:56:12] as we move forward on rezoning the limits of our new work,
[1:56:15] is developing these 24-hour active lifestyle centers
[1:56:17] in a contact, walkable, more time density, vertical orientation.
[1:56:22] At key locations, we don't want these things everywhere,
[1:56:25] But at major intersections such as 280A and its intersections like 60, 360, 10 and 1,
[1:56:32] those are opportunities to have some higher-sense, high-quality development that is attractive
[1:56:36] as we know to the one-elogeration as well as the baby boomers that are looking for a place
[1:56:41] that is connected to various activities, including entertainment, recreation, shopping, living,
[1:56:47] working all kind of in a compact, walk-able area.
[1:56:51] Again, just offering that lifestyle choice to a few for residents.
[1:56:55] So that's really kind of what we really lack today and what our confidence is trying to
[1:56:59] strive for us to achieve.
[1:57:01] A lot of these areas exist today as dirt malls, as shopping centers, and the nature retails
[1:57:07] changing.
[1:57:07] The nature of people's expectations for when they go out about in their life is changing.
[1:57:13] You know, nobody really enjoys doing the one stop shopping trip anymore.
[1:57:17] But if you can have a destination, a logical variety of things,
[1:57:20] maybe I can get something to eat, pick up a new shoes, and then go see a concert, and
[1:57:25] get a drink or something.
[1:57:26] That's what we're talking about all in a kind of active kind of high energy area, and
[1:57:33] that's what we're trying to develop, and that's also part of place making.
[1:57:37] We want to be a community of places, not just a community of subdivisions and strut models,
[1:57:41] so that's really kind of what our emphasis is on.
[1:57:44] This of course is our normal land use plan after all the bureaucrats and people that have
[1:57:49] with what users go where, but really for the public
[1:57:52] benefits, the same is just just kind of explained
[1:57:55] in any more technical manner.
[1:57:58] Now of course our third board plan,
[1:57:59] we haven't really made any changes to that.
[1:58:02] Most of those are the rows there in there for a while.
[1:58:06] So with that, tonight you'll have on your
[1:58:08] consent agenda, the setting of the public hearing
[1:58:10] for May 22nd, staff will explore to your recommendation
[1:58:13] to set that and hear what the public has to say.
[1:58:16] The commission, the announcement of doors,
[1:58:18] this comprehensive plan.
[1:58:20] I mean, staff are very proud of the work that we have in the
[1:58:22] climate department as well as the various other departments that have
[1:58:25] contributed a lot of time and energy.
[1:58:27] And this as well as you will to make this plan great.
[1:58:30] I think it's a much better plan than the 2012 plan that we had
[1:58:34] currently.
[1:58:34] I think it's more modern.
[1:58:36] It sets the stage for some new innovative things that we're going to
[1:58:39] attempt to do to our new zoning ordinance and some other initiatives we have.
[1:58:43] And with that, I can answer any questions you might have on the process or
[1:58:46] any particular section of the point?
[1:58:49] Better chair.
[1:58:52] Chapter four.
[1:58:54] I don't want to say a page of my own,
[1:58:57] BT6.
[1:58:59] This is what they talked about,
[1:59:00] Audrey, and the county.
[1:59:02] Incoming poverty is the top of the A.
[1:59:06] And, obviously, this is something we've spent a lot of time on,
[1:59:10] both on many of the future and essentially every department in some way.
[1:59:16] has its fingers on this issue and it's a very complex issue, right? One of the things I noted
[1:59:25] is that the plan and in this chapter it sort of goes back and forth sometimes between years
[1:59:36] of data and I see that we've got 2016 they're using a 2016 number here for poverty rate at 7.4%.
[1:59:44] And this, of course, doesn't capture our recent reduction in the poverty rate in the county
[1:59:51] that came out from the Fed just last October.
[1:59:55] We went down to 7.2%.
[1:59:58] And I think that...
[2:00:00] And that was for the year of 2017. I think that for the year of 2018, you're going to see a further reduction in that number based on the strength of the local economy.
[2:00:13] So I just wonder if it is appropriate to highlight that here in some form of fashion, because even if it levels out, it's something to note.
[2:00:29] And I think it's important to make it known in here somewhere that at this time,
[2:00:37] those things operating the way they are, not just national, but locally, the policy
[2:00:42] of the public, we are having this sort of an impact for those who are looking at this in
[2:00:50] the future and taking stock of what policies have been enacted, what policies have been enacted,
[2:00:58] And so, I don't know, to me, it just makes sense to maybe try to mention it here.
[2:01:04] Well, I don't even understand why we have to avoid this quote income.
[2:01:08] I don't know why we have to add an end-pop or an end-pop, or an end-pop.
[2:01:11] It's part of the set of income.
[2:01:14] And if you remember, we had taken that out, and the commission asked for that.
[2:01:19] We put back in, and that's why it's in the version.
[2:01:22] And if that's the desire of the board has that's something
[2:01:25] as you vote on the planet, you can make change with us too.
[2:01:28] Well, we need to call it what it is.
[2:01:30] I mean, it is, I mean, it is, we need to say
[2:01:32] you're following it down there.
[2:01:33] I think we can't wait to tie it over.
[2:01:35] Yeah, we need to not go all so well, but rather recognize
[2:01:39] and identify what we're dealing with.
[2:01:41] Yeah, I mean, I think both, right.
[2:01:44] I have to agree, Jim, I mean,
[2:01:46] I think that with the warmth of the community on the future
[2:01:48] done on it. We really highlighted this as a strategic issue and we've attacked it this way
[2:01:55] in a very public fashion. So I think it makes sense for us to do so also at our
[2:02:01] compound that we're paying attention to this particular number manually because we're talking
[2:02:06] about, but so even just that adjustment from 7.4 to 7.2 to 7.17, that's 700 families,
[2:02:13] you know who are not living on the poverty on that line anymore.
[2:02:18] You know, they're involved that line and something that think, you know, we should attempt to highlight in some fashion.
[2:02:24] I say, I just throw that out there.
[2:02:26] Part of it, part of it is that's trying to use the same statistical and I saw that.
[2:02:32] You know, this is mostly census and American community survey information.
[2:02:36] So we're trying to be careful to apple that, I don't remember.
[2:02:41] Mr. Woodlow, the reference, you know, the source of that reserve thing.
[2:02:45] So, you know, that's different.
[2:02:46] So, we're trying to keep it as a comparable consistent data source.
[2:02:53] So, we can make some additional efforts, maybe, to other sources,
[2:03:00] to provide a source of reduction in poverty.
[2:03:06] We're not, we're not, we're not, we're not.
[2:03:08] You know, that part, the part that's, that somewhat troubling me,
[2:03:12] is just that whole paragraph of general,
[2:03:14] by nature of the fact that we're passing a plan in 2019
[2:03:17] that references statistics.
[2:03:19] We're in 2016, it references also sort of a trend
[2:03:23] or a demographic trend.
[2:03:25] We're already three years into a trend
[2:03:27] at the beginning of a five-year plan.
[2:03:30] I just, that whole paragraph is troubling to me
[2:03:33] because it's based on data that's already old.
[2:03:36] And so I just feel like there's a better way
[2:03:38] we can capture.
[2:03:41] You know, do we have to capture it in data so much as we just capture somewhat what our commitment is to the entire spectrum of, you know, of how we're addressing it and come level slash already loves live in the county.
[2:03:59] I mean, I just still like that that's what this really speaks to it speaks to the commitment of the board.
[2:04:03] acknowledge that, you know, we have the verse pockets of income slash poverty that exist
[2:04:12] and that we have the we are programmatically intent upon addressing those issues providing resources.
[2:04:19] I mean, I just sort of feel like that's more of the importance of this than it is saying
[2:04:25] what the actual demographic numbers are that we can only capture so much of the fact.
[2:04:30] I mean does that kind of make sense to folks because we really, that is the tone that this board has taken in programming and services and that.
[2:04:41] It does matter of chair and I agree with you.
[2:04:43] And I think staff sort of called between a rock and argon and this some degree because you've got,
[2:04:47] I mean you've got these estimates. So American community survey five year estimates.
[2:04:52] But if you start off your lead year high.
[2:04:55] And then you start going down, you're not going to capture that in any estimate probably in this area, you're just not going to capture that.
[2:05:03] I don't think anybody thought at the beginning of 2015, the 2016-2017-2018 would do as well as we've done.
[2:05:13] look at what the local economy at 2.9% unemployment rate, second, and in a nationwide growth.
[2:05:18] You just start going through these statistics for the county and the estimates don't
[2:05:24] really catch that. I just wonder in key spots if we should not try to get something that's
[2:05:30] a little more current to the extent we think it makes sense. That's all I would say. I don't want
[2:05:35] to rewrite necessarily, but it's just a... Yeah, Dr. Casey.
[2:05:40] one observation is, and you have this challenge when you're nine years away from the most recent
[2:05:45] census. The fact is the census is the best strategy. Surveys are samples and we don't need
[2:05:50] to get to all those details. So the question is, is there a placeholder that's just done and maybe
[2:05:55] a caveat saying when census data becomes available, you know, then that's, you know, reflecting
[2:06:01] in some table or a tendency at least, but it's, and that won't be total the spring of 2021,
[2:06:09] But there's a whole wealth of data and senses that until you have that, you're just, you're taking guess.
[2:06:17] There's only thing I'll speak to with this, too.
[2:06:19] The increase while it may seem alarming, there's other facets that actually work to your advantage.
[2:06:24] And that we may be having a more affordable housing stock that people aren't living in one household of three generations.
[2:06:32] You know, that that twenty-two year olds are just starting their career with a $10 or $12
[2:06:38] an hour job, very well-made back to finding a household now to live in, quote-unquote,
[2:06:43] they're in poverty per se from a table perspective.
[2:06:46] That's why the word poverty is, you know, someone should be celebrating that they got their
[2:06:49] first job and they're on their way, hopefully, and for us to classify them as such, because
[2:06:55] we now have a household for them to live in.
[2:06:57] So to have affordable housing, you are by nature
[2:07:01] going to have a higher statistic.
[2:07:02] And this may actually be the right trend line of evade,
[2:07:05] flat, then, statistic going forward,
[2:07:07] or something that's not having these changes.
[2:07:10] And I'm just making assumptions.
[2:07:11] You know, I have no facts, yeah, I'm just making observations.
[2:07:15] I would say that we don't want the conflict
[2:07:17] and to be the source of data for people,
[2:07:19] one of the things we have in the beginning
[2:07:20] or this chapter is the belief that we're not going to think
[2:07:22] or not, right?
[2:07:23] And it's so too much data in here.
[2:07:25] Right.
[2:07:26] All right, well, it's good for this moment and time,
[2:07:27] but the second is plan to stop us out of favor.
[2:07:29] But we do have, we're going to have links in here
[2:07:31] that are going to link you to the web page,
[2:07:32] where we do have any reports on all these different things
[2:07:34] that keep the data up to date.
[2:07:36] Well, then, and I guess that's good.
[2:07:37] The question that's being raised is,
[2:07:39] is should these links, should we not have this,
[2:07:41] should we just have the links be a permanent source
[2:07:43] and a change in source that's needed and not embedded 100 times.
[2:07:48] So that's something the board can decide.
[2:07:49] I think the commission, we had this discussion
[2:07:51] with the commission early on, and they felt
[2:07:54] desire to keep data into the plan, but we'll make the final decision.
[2:07:58] I like the link in our deal.
[2:08:00] I like that.
[2:08:02] I like that.
[2:08:03] I don't like that.
[2:08:05] Okay.
[2:08:08] When you know all this data, it's much more than a copy.
[2:08:11] It is.
[2:08:12] It is.
[2:08:12] It is.
[2:08:13] It could be a copy.
[2:08:15] It could be a copy.
[2:08:15] It could be a copy.
[2:08:16] It could be a copy.
[2:08:19] That's what we got into the deal.
[2:08:23] to secure data and things really something in terms of the plan.
[2:08:29] To be that resource, right?
[2:08:31] Okay.
[2:08:31] That can be the next reason.
[2:08:35] You done?
[2:08:38] I really, first of all, thank you all for all the hard work.
[2:08:41] I mean, this has been out there, as you say, since 16, so it's been a lot of work
[2:08:44] and I have to watch the commissioners.
[2:08:46] I know my commissioners have really been working on it.
[2:08:49] get it out before roof small hoots and all. So I apologize you all for bringing that forth today.
[2:08:54] If two errors, one error, now I go back early to what you were saying earlier, Mr. Dobrik,
[2:09:01] that is communications with the community and the citizens and neighborhoods affected by
[2:09:07] hate-to-zone encases, it makes sure we improve the process. I know you have doing that,
[2:09:12] and I applaud the improvement in the process, the great man in the process to make it very
[2:09:17] efficient for business community, our development community, and I know your input has been
[2:09:23] included in making the process more amenable to them as a customer of the county as
[2:09:30] way. The second area is the proper, as we respect, to the revitalization. I know we include
[2:09:38] that chapter and it's very important. And now we look at cases where the environment revitalization
[2:09:44] And we, the proper, at some point, it would be nice to have a gauge as to how well that process is working with the elimination of properties and revitalization areas.
[2:09:59] I don't have some data on what that policy has meant to the county.
[2:10:05] has it improved the county in terms of more areas with increased assessments.
[2:10:12] Things of that nature that benefit the tax structure of the county will be helpful
[2:10:18] because that was a significant change in our policy, our problem policy,
[2:10:23] a couple of years ago, it would be helpful.
[2:10:25] And how will continue to improve those areas and all the areas of the county
[2:10:32] is very significant.
[2:10:34] As you've mentioned earlier, Steve is important
[2:10:36] that we look at improving all aspects of just a field.
[2:10:41] First, it's just moving out to a media.
[2:10:44] And pushing everything out, we want to utilize the end
[2:10:47] and make sure that we really enhance our older areas.
[2:10:53] And in Dale, for example, we'll make sure we have
[2:10:55] older areas in Dale and not, but just the entire county.
[2:10:59] I think that's very important for us to do.
[2:11:01] So those are areas and continue to improvement as you point out, I love the idea of being able
[2:11:07] to go to the website and receive information at night versus having to attend to meet
[2:11:12] people.
[2:11:12] I really visit and you realize that technology purer wells we learn through the budget process
[2:11:18] reach way more people that way.
[2:11:20] So that will be excellent.
[2:11:21] But I just believe in the continuous improvement in the process and in terms of meeting needs
[2:11:27] of our customers, and specifically, as well as the brief comments.
[2:11:33] Thank you.
[2:11:34] Thank you.
[2:11:35] Thank you.
[2:11:35] Thank you, Paul.
[2:11:39] I am forward towards today's report on district, monthly report on district approval.
[2:11:45] Are there any questions regarding the district to improve on the follow-up report?
[2:11:50] No.
[2:11:50] I appreciate your report, ma'am.
[2:11:52] Yes.
[2:11:52] I appreciate the data.
[2:11:53] Thank you.
[2:11:54] I love the data.
[2:11:55] Seeing no questions, I'm forward to accept that.
[2:11:57] I am 5.
[2:11:58] 15 minutes.
[2:11:59] So this is a time and period of time instead of matter if we have no speakers.
[2:12:02] Six closed session for two sections, two point two, that's 37, I'm an A8.
[2:12:07] However, junior ninety-five is amended for consultation with the county attorney, requiring
[2:12:11] the provisions of legal advice regarding possible opioids and litigation.
[2:12:15] We need a motion to go into closed session.
[2:12:17] Oh, man.
[2:12:18] I'm sorry.