[2:30] Good afternoon. I'd like to open the council meeting for May 19th. It's 5 o'clock and we have an

[2:53] awesome city clerk here. If you can please call the roll. Councilmember Chavez is not here.

[3:03] Deputy Mayor Fernandez. Councilmember Insunta? I'm here. Councilmember Presciato is not present and Mayor

[3:12] me can. Present. I'm going to go ahead and ask member Insunta to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

[3:21] Stand if you can. Put your right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin.

[3:27] High pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

[3:34] Thank you very much. I need to make an announcement for the housing authority. Each council member and I will receive $50 for our attendance at this housing authority meeting.

[3:59] Being held simultaneously with the city council meeting. Now we're going to move to some cool things. We're going to do special orders of the day.

[4:11] And the first thing is we're going to do a presentation for the proclamation for EMS week. And before I do that, I just want to make sure that

[4:28] I take a moment of silence. Before we continue the program, we need to acknowledge the tragic event that took place yesterday at the Islamic Center of San Diego.

[4:42] Our hearts are with the victims, their families and the community affected by this act of violence and hate. At this time, I would like everyone to join me in a moment of silence.

[4:58] Thank you very much. Now for the emergency medical services week.

[5:18] First, Chief, I'm Monroe. Thank you very much for being here. And it looks like you have some great, great folks here.

[5:30] I remember when we as the council brought the EMS in house, and I think that has been a tremendous opportunity for the city because we've been able to have so many more ambulances.

[5:47] And we finally met our response times after making that decisions. And I really appreciate everybody who is part of the emergency medical services.

[5:58] So emergency medical service week may 17th through 23rd, 2026, whereas the emergency medical services plays a vital role in delivering rapid medical intervention, improving patient outcomes and ensuring coordinated medical response throughout the city of Chulavista and the region.

[6:22] Whereas emergency medical services professionals are dedicated individuals who provide lifesaving care and critical medical assistance to residents and visitors during times of emergency disasters, illnesses and injuries.

[6:41] As emergency medical services personnel, including paramedics, emergency medical technicians, firefighters, dispatchers, nurses, physicians, and other first responders worked tirelessly every day and night to protect the health safety and well-being of our community.

[7:04] Whereas a medical emergency medical services provides important out of hospital care, including preventative medicine, follow-up care and access to telemedicine.

[7:16] And whereas emergency medical services week serves as an opportunity to recognize and honor the dedication, sacrifice and invaluable contributions of EMS professionals who stand ready to serve our community.

[7:33] Whereas the national theme of emergency medical services week, EMS strong, we care for everyone, highlights the unwavering commitment of EMS professionals to provide compassionate care to all members of the community.

[7:51] Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that I, John McCann, 41st Mayor of the City of Chulavista, along with the City Council for on behalf of the citizens of Chulavista, do hereby proclaim the week of May 17th through 23, 2026 as emergency medical services week in the City of Chulavista. Congratulations.

[8:21] Hold down your mic a little so we can hear a little better.

[8:34] Yes, sir. Perfect. Thank you.

[8:36] Thank you all for recognizing us this week in this proclamation. On the behalf of the men and women of the Chulavista Department, we really appreciate this honor.

[8:44] Since 2013, we've been providing a higher level of service through advanced life support.

[8:50] Our mission is to protect life environment and property and our number one goal is to protect life and we do that 85% of the day run in medical and emergency medical.

[8:59] We thank you for this. We thank you for the support that the Council and the City Management gave us in 2021 to be able to provide that our own transport service.

[9:08] Since at time we've been able to meet all of our key performance indicators, getting an ALS unit on scene within seven minutes, transport unit on scene within 12 minutes, well over 90% of the time.

[9:20] So, we thank you for that. We thank you for this honor and we appreciate the opportunity to serve the citizens of Chulavista. Thank you.

[9:26] Thank you again. Please give them another round of applause.

[9:38] We'd like to take a quick picture with all of our people.

[10:08] This one is better here.

[10:38] Now, another incredibly important group that we have working for us, literally every day, and through emergency periods of time, is a presentation of a proclamation, proclaiming May 17 through May 23 as National Public Works Week in the City of Chulavista.

[11:02] And if we can have a representative come down to accept the proclamation.

[11:32] Thank you everyone for being here today. I sincerely appreciate everything you do.

[11:43] Whereas public works, professionals, manage and maintain the city's infrastructure facilities and essential services.

[11:51] Their work helps ensure safe and reliable conditions as well as ensure public health, quality of life and general well-being for the community in Chulavista.

[12:03] And whereas public works professionals include engineers, managers, employees working at all levels of government as well as within the private sector.

[12:15] Together they are responsible for rebuilding, improving, protecting the nation's transportation systems, water supply and treatment systems, solid waste systems, public buildings and other essential infrastructure.

[12:31] Whereas the City of Chulavista Public Works Department spans a diverse range of divisions, including streets, wastewater, open space, fleet, facilities, parks, park rangers, public works inspection, fiscal administration, environmental services and conservation.

[12:55] Together, these divisions are made up of dedicated public services who work to improve the quality of life in our community. Please give that a round of applause.

[13:17] Whereas understanding and maintaining and ongoing interest in public works and related programs is important for residents, civic leaders and future generations in the city of Chulavista.

[13:31] And whereas this year marks the 66th Annual National Public Works Week sponsored by the American Public Works Association and the Canadian Public Works Association reflecting more than six decades of continued recognition of a vital role for public works.

[13:52] And whereas the theme of 2026 rooted in service powered by community acknowledges the roots of service that run deep in public works, especially in the City of Chulavista.

[14:07] Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that I, John McCann, 41st Mayor of the City of Chulavista, together with the City Council for and on behalf of residents of Chulavista do hereby proclaim May 17, 2023, 2026 as National Public Works Week in the City of Chulavista. Congratulations.

[14:37] And the floor is yours. Thank you. I'm honored to accept the Proclamation on behalf of the Public Works Department, but I would like to take this opportunity to thank staff for all of their hard work and dedication that they do on behalf of our community.

[15:00] Experts happens behind the scenes, but the work that they do makes a difference in the everyday lives of our residents.

[15:07] So, thank you, team.

[15:09] Thank you very much, and I know.

[15:16] I know many times the accolades don't always go to the public works employees, but you guys are so,

[15:26] so, so vital to making why Chulivist is one of the best cities in the state of California.

[15:32] And we really appreciate it, and you are in my heart for working diligently every day, 24, 7, sometimes,

[15:41] to make sure that we have a quality, clean and safe community.

[15:46] So, congratulations again. I appreciate you very much, and then we'll do a picture. Thank you.

[15:52] Go ahead and turn around, and they're going to take a picture.

[16:22] Thank you.

[16:53] And now we're going to recognize Vin Chavago Jr.

[16:58] Thank you very much.

[17:00] Is your wife here?

[17:01] She's right here.

[17:02] She needs to come up with a picture.

[17:05] And just FY, she's the one reason why we were able to get you a proclamation because she let us know about your exceptional service.

[17:15] Thank you very much.

[17:18] Whereas, Vin Chavago Jr. honorably served in the United States for 23 years as a GS13 senior forensic chemist

[17:30] with the Drug Enforcement Administration assigned to Southwest Laboratory in San Diego, California,

[17:38] where he played a vital role in the scientific analysis of controlled substances and provided critical support

[17:46] to federal law enforcement investigations.

[17:49] And whereas in his capacity as senior forensic chemist, he demonstrated exceptional expertise, integrity, and precision,

[18:00] offering expert testimony, technical guidance, and forensic analysis that directly contributed to the enforcement of federal laws and the protection of communities.

[18:13] Whereas, prior to his distinguished tenure with the Drug Enforcement Administration, he dedicated nine years of service as an environmental chemist with the United States Navy Southwest region in Coronado, California.

[18:30] Supporting environmental compliance, operational safety, and stewardship of vital natural resources.

[18:38] And whereas throughout his career, he exemplified professionalism, dedication to public service, and steadfast commitment to excellence in both military and federal service roles.

[18:52] Whereas, his contributions have left a lasting impact on the fields of forensic science, environmental protection, and public safety.

[19:03] And his legacy of service continues to inspire those who follow in his path.

[19:09] Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that I, John McCann, 41st Mayor of the City of Chulavista, along with the City Council for an on behalf of the residents of City of Chulavista,

[19:21] do hereby honor and recognize Ven Zavago Jr. in the City of Chulavista and extend our deepest appreciation for his outstanding service.

[19:32] Please give him a round of applause.

[19:40] Now, first before you speak, sir, you'll look way too young to be retiring.

[19:46] So, yeah, the floor is yours.

[19:50] I was honored to work for the Drug Enforcement Administration for over 23 years and provide help.

[19:58] Help the community stay safe.

[20:02] I want to thank Mayor John McCann, council members, and community members for this recognition I appreciate it.

[20:12] Thank you very much.

[20:13] Thank you.

[20:14] Everybody give him a round of applause.

[20:22] And you can have all your family come on up.

[20:25] And somebody I'll take a picture for you.

[20:55] Thank you very much.

[20:56] Now, we're going to move on to the consent calendar.

[20:58] I just items 5-1 through 5-4.

[21:01] Do I have any items that would be like to be pulled from the Dias from council members?

[21:07] Seeing none, I'll go ahead and make the motion.

[21:11] We do have a couple conflicts on 5-8.

[21:15] I will be recusing myself from 5-8.

[21:20] Resolution C and E.

[21:22] And then on 5-13, I will be recusing myself from resolution C and D.

[21:29] And then on 5-13, I will be recusing myself from resolution B.

[21:36] I will make the motion.

[21:38] Do I have a second?

[21:40] I still have to state it.

[21:42] Yes.

[21:43] We have a second.

[21:44] And I will go ahead and recognize the member from District 1.

[21:48] I want to do it to a property based conflict of interest.

[21:51] I want not.

[21:52] I want to not for the record that I've seen from resolution C and D and item 5-8 on the consent agenda.

[22:01] Mr. Mayor, before.

[22:02] Yes.

[22:03] And I will go ahead and recognize that I have property complex again for 5-8.

[22:09] C and E and 5-13.

[22:12] B.

[22:13] And so I will be again recusing myself from those items.

[22:17] Mr. Mayor, before we proceed, I need to announce that there has been a corrected resow

[22:21] to item 5.5 on the consent agenda.

[22:25] There are some typographical errors in the attachment.

[22:29] The revised corrected documents have been distributed on the diastus this evening.

[22:33] And are available for the public to view as well.

[22:36] And these are minor changes due to typographical errors.

[22:39] Thank you.

[22:40] Thank you very much.

[22:42] Thank you for that update.

[22:44] I have a motion and a second.

[22:46] Madam Clerk, if you can please read the heading.

[22:49] Mr. Mayor, two things.

[22:50] If I could just verify who made that second.

[22:53] It was a little.

[22:54] It was the member from District 4.

[22:56] And I also have two public speakers.

[22:58] And if you can please call the first speaker.

[23:00] Our first speaker is John Acosta, followed by Robert.

[23:03] Thank you.

[23:13] 5.5.4.

[23:15] You just come up with all this.

[23:18] But you're only forced none of them.

[23:20] You select the ones you choose to force.

[23:23] What else is I keep telling you about the strip vendors that you do not.

[23:27] The general vendor is a company.

[23:29] You could save $12.00 a day.

[23:31] There are owners from Tijuana.

[23:33] He has different vendors in Tijuana as well.

[23:37] He pays the people for him by the day.

[23:40] There's no breaks.

[23:41] There's no bathrooms.

[23:42] So, you need to do something about it.

[23:44] Because you all seen it.

[23:45] You have seen it.

[23:46] You have seen it.

[23:47] Maybe perhaps you need to go around the neighborhood.

[23:50] One of the things that I'm concerned about.

[23:54] It's about 5.5.

[23:56] That you just corrected without giving the public a opportunity to read.

[23:59] I think that you said you put it out.

[24:02] Put it and let the public read it before you got approval.

[24:08] Because you just said it was corrected.

[24:11] So, for people back in there and then not let the public read it.

[24:15] That's a conflict of interest.

[24:18] Those are us people.

[24:19] Who will happen to have their own act?

[24:21] When I think about 5.11.

[24:24] When you're talking about the construction house.

[24:30] But you're nowhere in there that's the same as a parking.

[24:33] Once again, you guys even know the parking.

[24:36] You guys don't require for parking.

[24:39] So, you need to start reading.

[24:41] Doing your homework and start making sure that the people are going to be living there.

[24:45] They're going to construct and build it.

[24:47] That is parking for the community and for the people who are living there.

[24:50] Like I said, do your homework before you start approving.

[24:53] That's why you get paid for.

[24:55] To research and approve and approve.

[24:58] And let me know because that's too many.

[25:01] There's no transparency in here.

[25:03] Especially if I point 5 when you just said that you start turning.

[25:07] They was corrected.

[25:09] So, without you, you gave it to them but you didn't give it to the public.

[25:13] You didn't give us the public knee and opportunity to read the correct.

[25:18] So, therefore, you should not put in the agenda right now.

[25:22] Mr. May, if I could just briefly respond.

[25:24] Yes.

[25:25] Yes, sir.

[25:26] So, we do have copies of the corrected items up here on the dias for you to review if you're interested.

[25:32] So, you want to do that?

[25:34] Do you want to pull us?

[25:35] So, I can read it.

[25:36] Then you come back to it.

[25:37] You just have to do.

[25:39] You're not going to give it time before you.

[25:41] I read it and then you vote.

[25:43] You're going to vote before I even read it.

[25:45] Or anybody.

[25:46] Mr. Costa, we do have copies up here for your review if you're interested.

[25:50] Again, these are minor topic, typographical errors, but if you're interested.

[25:54] There's no transparency because you're doing corrections.

[25:56] We have public read it.

[26:06] Robert?

[26:07] City Council.

[26:17] Wow.

[26:18] Wow.

[26:20] All right.

[26:22] So, you know, we could talk about little errors.

[26:27] We could talk about big errors.

[26:30] We could talk about mistakes.

[26:32] We could talk.

[26:34] I get everything goes both ways.

[26:36] Once you've figured it out.

[26:39] So, I think what a lot of people are looking for in the transparency.

[26:43] You know, I was kind of corrected this week at the,

[26:46] so we water authority when they were talking about our rate changes.

[26:51] And so, they suggested I use accuracy.

[26:54] And so, would you argue, Mr. City attorney,

[26:57] that the paper that was released before was inaccurate?

[27:02] And then now you're releasing the accurate version.

[27:05] So, there are reasons to be accurate and transparent

[27:09] and all these good words, right?

[27:13] You know, when we do these meetings, we're asking the public to engage, right?

[27:23] At the end of the meeting when no one's here,

[27:28] I can sit on the end of the comments and get comments per each item.

[27:33] But consent calendar, we only get our three minutes, right?

[27:38] And it was kind of funny.

[27:40] We're talking about procedures, right?

[27:42] And then presentations that were brought up to people about brown act violations

[27:46] and things like that during the boards meetings.

[27:49] And even in the city, city clerks own presentation,

[27:54] it said we get five minutes as public comment.

[27:58] You know, it's like a self reflection of how it should be,

[28:03] versus how you guys enforce it.

[28:07] But yeah, so we'll go to open spaces.

[28:10] Does open spaces mean we sell a space for it to become a closed space?

[28:15] I don't know.

[28:16] All these questions come up.

[28:21] Yeah, the procedural problems that we point out should be addressed.

[28:27] And if it's inaccurate, it should be released.

[28:30] Like, is it part of the paperwork that I looked through?

[28:33] Because if it's not a part of that paperwork, why isn't it part of the paperwork?

[28:36] Why are you holding it at the dias instead of just putting it in part of the paperwork?

[28:46] I don't know.

[28:48] Because address him as if he was speaking on something you even affirmed

[28:53] that it's at the dias.

[28:55] And then is it not in the paperwork?

[28:59] These are all procedural things.

[29:02] And then you're only taking one position to it.

[29:05] You're not going to have to fix the situation.

[29:10] I mean, really.

[29:22] We have no additional speakers.

[29:23] Thank you.

[29:24] If you can please read the headings.

[29:26] Yes, item 5.1 is approval of the minutes dated April 21st in April 28th,

[29:31] 2026.

[29:33] Item 5.2 is approval of a motion to read only the title and wave the reading of the text of all

[29:38] resolutions and ordinances at this meeting.

[29:41] Item 5.3 is approval of an excuse absence for Deputy Mayor Fernandez from the April 28th,

[29:46] 2026 City Council meeting.

[29:49] Item 5.4 is ordinance of the city of Chilivista, comprehensively amending Chilivista

[29:54] Municipal Title 1, General Provisions, Title 3, revenue and finance, Title 5 business license.

[30:00] Taxes and Regulations. Title 10 vehicles and traffic. Title 12 streets and environmental quality. Title 12 streets and sidewalks. Title 15 building and construction. Title 17 environmental quality. Title 18 subdivisions. Title 19 planning and zoning and title 21 historic preservation, second reading and adoption.

[30:28] Title 155A is a resolution of the city council, the city of Chilivist, the adopting and annexation map showing territory proposed to be annexed to improvement areas see of community facilities district number 97-2 reserve maintenance district of the city of Chilivist, the county of San Diego.

[30:49] Title 155A is a resolution of the city council, the city of Chilivist, adopting a proposed boundary map designating improvement area of community facilities district 97-2, preserve maintenance district of the city of Chilivist, the county of San Diego, state of California and showing territory proposed to be annexed to such improvement area.

[31:11] Title 155C is a resolution of the city council of the city of Chilivist, California declaring its intention to authorize annexation of territory to community facilities district number 97-2, preserve maintenance district of the city of Chilivist, the county of San Diego, state of California and improvement area see therein and taking the other actions related there too.

[31:35] Title 155C is a resolution of the city council of the city of Chilivist, California declaring.

[31:39] It's intention to designate improvement area D of community facilities district number 97-2,

[31:45] preserve maintenance district of the City of Chilivistic County of San Diego, state of

[31:49] California, annexed territory as annexation number 1, there too, and taking other actions related

[31:55] there too.

[31:56] Item 5.6 is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista, adopting a list of projects

[32:03] for fiscal year 2026-27, funded by SB-1, the World Repair and Accountability Act of 2017.

[32:12] Item 5.7 is receipt of investment report for the quarter ending on March 31.

[32:17] Item 5.8, A is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista, initiating proceedings

[32:24] for the levy and collection of assessments for fiscal year 2026-27, for open space districts

[32:29] 1 through 11, 14, 15, 17, 18, 20, 23, 24, 26, 31, 33, East Lake maintenance district number

[32:40] 1, town center maintenance district, and bay boulevard maintenance district,

[32:44] pursuant to the landscaping and lighting act of 1972.

[32:48] Item 5.8, B is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista,

[32:52] approving the engineers report for declaring the intention to levy and collect

[32:56] assessments and setting a public hearing regarding the fiscal year 2026-27 assessments

[33:01] for open space districts 2 through 11, 14, 15, 17, 18, 20, zones 1 through 4, 6, 8, and 9, 23, 24, 26, 31, 33, East Lake

[33:17] maintenance district number 1, town center maintenance district, and bay boulevard maintenance district.

[33:23] Item 5.8, C is a resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista,

[33:28] approving the engineers report declaring the intention to levy and collect

[33:31] assessments and setting a public hearing regarding the fiscal year 2026-27 assessments for

[33:37] open space district 1. Item 5.8, D is a resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista,

[33:42] approving the engineers report declaring the intention to levy and collect assessments

[33:46] and setting a public hearing regarding the fiscal year 2026-27 assessments for open space district

[33:52] 20 zone 5 item 5.8 E is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista approving the

[33:59] Engineers report declaring the intention to levy and collect assessments and setting a public hearing

[34:04] regarding the fiscal year 202627 assessments for open space district 20 zone 7.

[34:10] Item 5.9 is resolution of the City of Chilivista transferring unclamed monies and the amount of

[34:16] $18,583 and 24 cents from the deposit fund to the general fund.

[34:24] Item 5.10 is resolution of the City Council of Chilivista transferring unclamed monies in the

[34:29] amount of $7,442.30 from the cash bond deposit fund to the general fund.

[34:35] Item 5.11 is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista waving parkland

[34:41] dedication and in-loop requirements for a 96 unit affordable running rental housing project located

[34:47] within OTI Ranch Village 2. Item 5.12 is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista

[34:54] to vacate a portion of a storm drain easement with parcel 8 of parcel map number 19543.

[35:01] Item 5.138 is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista approving the fiscal year

[35:06] 202627 U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, spending plan for the community development

[35:13] block grant and home investment partnerships program and authorizing the city manager to execute

[35:18] several city and agreements and all had documents related to the grants.

[35:23] Item 5.13B resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista approving the fiscal year 202627 U.S.

[35:30] Department of Housing and Urban Development, spending plan for the emergency solutions grant and

[35:34] authorizing the city manager to execute several city and agreements and all had documents related

[35:40] to the grant. Item 5.14 resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista approving

[35:46] property management agreement between the City of Chilivista and Ryan Companies, U.S. Inc. for

[35:52] services at the City owned building located at 1775 millennia avenue end of consent.

[35:57] To Char, take a deep breath. Thank you. I think that may have been a record. So everybody

[36:07] bit the Mr. Turner around of applause. With that, please vote.

[36:16] Consent calendar passes unanimously with these said recusals by council members in the

[36:33] mayor. We will now move on to public comments. Madam Clerk, if you can please call the first

[36:39] speaker. Yes, Mayor, we do have a living speakers on public comment. I will go ahead and proceed

[36:46] with calling the first seven. Our first speaker is Joseph Rosal followed by Angelica Martinez,

[36:51] followed by John Acosta. Good evening. Ottawa Mayor and City Council. Our city stands at a cross

[37:03] works crossroads. Families are struggling with rising costs of living. Businesses are worried

[37:09] about public safety. Home with this continues to grow. In streets, sidewalks and infrastructure across

[37:15] our neighbors are falling apart. While City Hall debates procedure instead of solutions.

[37:21] The people of Chilivista deserve action not excuses. Yet too many career politicians on our City

[37:27] Council have created this system designed to protect themselves rather than serve the public.

[37:32] Today, an individual council member is prohibited for even placing an important issue on a future

[37:38] council agenda. Unless majority first agrees behind the scenes. Think about it. Problems affecting

[37:45] our family, our neighborhood, our future. We never even have discussed publicly. Unless political

[37:51] incidents are decided, because political incidents are decided to convene it. That's not leadership,

[37:56] that's gridlock. Major California City, including Sandy and Los Angeles, are ready to allow

[38:02] this opportunity for their council members. No city can solve serious problems when elected

[38:08] official silence debate before even begins. Homelessness will not disappear through avoidance. Public

[38:14] safety will not improve through procedural games. Infrastructure will not repair itself while politics

[38:20] is worrying more about protecting careers than challenging the status quo. I have written you

[38:26] five times over the past several months requesting an explanation why you refuse to allow a

[38:32] fellow council member of the opportunity to place an item on the agenda. I have yet to receive even

[38:37] the simple courtesy of a response. If you've received, refuse to consider my ideas. For improving our

[38:44] city council procedure may I suggest you listen to Angelica Martinez. Angelica Martinez is not a

[38:51] career politician. She is running for city council to restore accountability, transparency, and

[38:57] urgency to city hall. Please consider her views. You will come to realize that as you just get two council

[39:03] member Angelica Martinez will fight to eliminate this self-serving rule. So every elected representative

[39:08] has a ability to re-forward our community's concerns for the public discussion and action.

[39:14] Angelica Martinez will listen to residents, not political insiders. Angelica Martinez will focus

[39:20] on solutions, not excuses. Angelica Martinez will work every day to improve the quality of life

[39:25] for hardworking people of the city of Chilivist. Time for delay is over. Time for practice is now.

[39:33] And I thank you very much, Joseph A. Rassell.

[39:39] Our next speaker is Angelica Martinez, followed by John Acosta, followed by Francisco Castillo.

[39:53] Hi, good evening. May you and city council. Before again, I want to say that I appreciate that the

[39:59] council remained present and respectful and not walk out today during the moment of silence. I appreciate

[40:06] it, thank you. Tonight I want to speak about the discussion regarding the possible MTS related

[40:13] tax proposal. That could increase Chilivist's already tax 8.5 sales tax. And I also want to connect

[40:21] that to the recent sewer rate increases notice as many residents just received from the city.

[40:29] Families are hurting financially, groceries are expensive, gas is expensive, utilities continue to

[40:35] going up. Insurance costs continue rising, rent and mortgages are overwhelming for many families.

[40:42] In 2024, residents already experienced property tax increases through

[40:48] that three school bonds that were approved. And now, only two years later, families are once again

[40:55] hearing discussions about additional taxes and rate increases. At some point, we have to ask

[41:02] how much more can working families realistically handle? I respectfully ask the council to reconsider

[41:11] moving forward with policies that continue increasing the financial burden of residents. Raising

[41:17] a family's expensive, it is very different than living alone. Parents are working over time,

[41:23] some parents working to jobs and many families are sacrificing time together just to survive

[41:30] financially in California. As an educator, I have seen firsthand what financial stress does to

[41:37] families and children. I have seen students whose parents barely see them because one parent works

[41:43] mornings and the other parent might have to jobs. That should be a concern to all of us. I understand

[41:50] that they need to maintain infrastructure and support public transportation, but before asking

[41:56] taxpayers for more money, agencies and government entities should focus on accountability, transparency,

[42:03] and responsible spending first. Residents deserve to know where is the current funding going,

[42:11] what reforms have been implemented, what spending has been audited, and what protections are in place

[42:17] for taxpayers. Because from the perspective of many residents, it feels like families are constantly

[42:24] being asked to pay more while they are already struggling to stay afloat. I'm asking this council

[42:32] tonight to please consider the reality working families are living every day before supporting additional

[42:40] financial burdens on the community. I know you guys put something on social media about

[42:49] a way to reduce the increase, but people are saying that they didn't get that message in time. Maybe

[42:57] you guys could probably put those incentives earlier, or have them publicly available, so people

[43:05] could see the discounts that they are for for these increases. Thank you very much. Thank you.

[43:12] Our next speaker is John Acosta, followed by Francesco Castillo, followed by Michael Feinstein.

[43:22] First of all, I want to give you a reminder that you, Susan and Susan lead to me. What I think

[43:28] that most of the seven things that he went around saying that he was a member of the

[43:33] Minister of Family, he has never been a member of the Minister of Family, you know, a Pisco is a military.

[43:41] One of the things that's really concerning moving on to all the adult incidents, incidents that

[43:51] Susan is involved with. If you're going to my post, I'll give you dates, I'll give you times,

[43:57] I'll give you places, and you none of you have done nothing about it. Why is it?

[44:05] You know, whether you sense on him, you know, in seven incidents, Susan calling for the

[44:11] chair attorney to protect you like he's thinking that he's at a playground, and maybe we'll have

[44:15] you to tell him a security to men up and maybe perhaps call him like he is acting like he's in

[44:22] him, and he says this is the committee says that he call a little black kid a punk. So tell me to men up,

[44:29] punk. So therefore, you know, one of the things that really concerned, oh, I just noticed this,

[44:34] is this to protect us from his suicide, he could cause like he goes psycho and he jumps over here,

[44:41] and the police are saying here to protect us from him, from you. So it's in attorney,

[44:46] did you make sure that if he's in to medicine, that he gets a value in it, because his performance

[44:52] in part of the senior community is okay. It's actually, this is actually all there are bills,

[45:00] And now, you know, you can see the dates in the times of the places, and even a picture in

[45:06] none of you that not in a bag. Why? Why? What we need to do is drain the swamp, drain the swamp,

[45:14] bring his team. That's all I am recording, okay? So, you know, drain the swamp and break his

[45:21] team. How much is the current politicians worth going for me in some time? Can you tell me that?

[45:27] Or you've got to come up with a report again. A report to those people is you are supporting.

[45:32] And remember, all those people that he supports are going to be part of his team. All of them. All of them.

[45:40] And others, you know, for the same name, the credit, he's trying to pull in doors.

[45:47] He didn't like him. He blocks him. He, I believe that he blocks him. I'm going to drop the city with a city.

[45:53] Right? Is that correct? That's what I was told. That's what I was told.

[45:58] So, therefore, stop testing each other. During the meetings, you are here to listen to a community, not test each other or test your

[46:05] attorneys. And by the way, the way you call me is harassment. It is harassment. Like I said,

[46:12] really, a touch was in the touch was like give you dates and times who he will be abused senior

[46:19] citizens. And you said, you were there. You did nothing about it.

[46:23] You said, sir, attorney, you were there. They're bonding us. And you did nothing about it.

[46:28] Something has to be done with you. All of you.

[46:32] Our next speaker is Francisco Castillo. Followed by Michael Feinstein. Followed by Craig Thompson.

[46:44] Honorable Mill. Mayor, council member, city attorney. My name is Francisco Castillo.

[46:49] I want to thank each and every one of you for the opportunity to speak here today.

[46:53] I understand and hear all the complaints and all the things that are going on, and I just want to assure you I'm not about to do that today.

[47:00] I understand that you guys are going through and have much work to do. I see each and every one of you working hard every day.

[47:05] What I would like to say as a pastor of a local church, I see that it's really hard for us to to volunteer and serve the community in ways we like to.

[47:16] We did put in the applications for service.

[47:19] Well, there's for the homeless to help clean graffiti, trash in the streets and parks.

[47:24] That's a need to spend brought up already that we as a church or is in a community conserve.

[47:30] Not only that, we'd also like to help out. We can't drive everywhere.

[47:34] But one thing that came to mind, I see notices on overgrown houses that haven't been able to move their lawns.

[47:41] Most of them are elderly and senior citizens and they can't get out there.

[47:46] And what I would love to do is to be able to get hold of those citations prior.

[47:50] So we as a church or as a community can get there and help our senior citizens and disabled people.

[47:57] One thing also my colleague here next to me is been educated in suicide prevention drug and alcohol abuse.

[48:05] There is gotta be a way that we can cross the lines. District 1, 2, 3, wherever.

[48:11] We're not voting so I know we can help district 3. We can help district 1. We can help district 2.

[48:18] I know the mayor and I thank you for that. So as a personal application we've submitted.

[48:25] We have not been able to get too much response because it's kind of hard.

[48:29] It's the websites that will off and we want to do things the right way.

[48:33] We have been asking questions and regards and we do just paint over graffiti.

[48:37] Are you running for mayor? Are you running for council? No, I'm just trying to clean up the neighborhood.

[48:42] Right? Are you trying to run for mayor? Council? No, I just want to help and serve our elders in the disabled community.

[48:49] One thing that's what we want to do. Again, we're a small local church. Our church is revived. Church 316.

[48:55] We want to be able to help the community and any way we can. We're willing to. We're ready to.

[49:01] And I hope that each and every one of you, the districts, even the city attorney manager, mayor, will reach out.

[49:07] You all have my email. You have our contact information.

[49:11] We are willing to work with leaders, independent, police, fire, and any way we can.

[49:17] We have an obligation to our seniors. We have an obligation to our disabled, our veterans, and our homeless.

[49:24] And we're willing to help in that matter. I want to thank each and every one of the service you guys are doing.

[49:29] It's not easy to come up here and get roasted on the diets. You know, it's a tough job.

[49:35] But I respect each and every comment that comes out today because that's what they feel that's what they are here to be heard.

[49:41] I pray for you guys daily. You guys have a wonderful day.

[49:46] The next speaker is Michael Finstein, followed by Craig Thompson, followed by Robert.

[49:55] Good evening. Michael Finstein, I'm a former mayor and city council member in Santa Monica.

[50:00] I'm a co-founder of the Green Party of California and a candidate for California Secretary of State.

[50:05] And I'm here to talk about representation for your city on the state level.

[50:10] A few months back, we remembered that Texas, Jerrymandered their districts to the favorite Republicans.

[50:16] California responded by Jerrymandering, our district's favorite Democrats.

[50:21] And now the Supreme Court has gutted the boating rights act.

[50:24] What do we learn from that? A singular dependence on winner-take-all single-seat districts means whoever draws the lines controls who get representation and who doesn't.

[50:36] But isn't everybody entitled to representation? Why don't we have an electoral system that gives everybody a seat at the table instead of some people just being on the menu?

[50:46] The countries that we're normally compared with use a system called proportional representation.

[50:52] When selecting one seat at a time, we'll let many seats at a time.

[50:56] And if one party gets to 3% of the vote, they want 30% of the seats.

[51:00] 40% of the vote for another party, et cetera. That way, more people get representation.

[51:06] And we get really the Jerrymandering battle because it's always proportional with any district.

[51:12] And a lot of different people get to see it within the district, and that it's proportional in the next district as well.

[51:18] Specifically, when I'm recommending for California and how it relates to your city, there's a larger state, largest nature,

[51:25] substantially larger than we have now because it was said in 1879, when we only had eight or a thousand people in the whole state.

[51:32] Half of it from single seat, smaller districts.

[51:35] Your city would probably make up two state assembly districts.

[51:39] And then the portion of the situation, for the other half, and to have it out of regional, multi-county districts.

[51:48] Why? Because our economics, our transportation realities, our regional, the central values, different than San Diego versus the Bay Area, et cetera.

[51:59] But we don't send anybody to Sacramento out of regional public policy discussions. And if we did that, we'd have some Democrats.

[52:07] We'd have some Republicans. We'd have a few screens like me, a few libertarians.

[52:11] And probably some other political parties we developed in a system where voters were freer to express what they're really about instead of all the stuck until lesser evil is, et cetera.

[52:21] There's going to be about measure probably on the November ballot to repeal the jungle primary, the top two system, because the fiasco in the governor's race is here,

[52:31] and all the votes splitting, which is an inherent problem with the current system.

[52:35] Instead of just going back to our previous system, I'm trying to generate a discussion about the proportion of representation in order to improve our democracy.

[52:42] And that's why I was here to talk about how it would affect representation for your city. Thanks for your time.

[52:49] Our next speaker is Craig Thompson, followed by Robert.

[52:54] Hello, this is Mike Ford, I'm here, and it's all because of one person.

[52:59] I miss a Canadian guy, I don't. He's a code in person, maybe he made up light about my motorhome, but I'm a little crack.

[53:22] I wasn't done by, he was swandering me.

[53:27] He wrote over the net a thing saying that I'm violating code bioreachings.

[53:33] I'm on private property, I've been here two over time, the poor time you told me to talk to Robert about it.

[53:40] I got to him, he happened to be her boss. I said, I want to see what proof she has.

[53:45] She said, I'm leaving crack everywhere. I'm a homeless accountant on private property.

[53:50] You're a country who is a private property and was a good drunk.

[53:54] I want her to be called me. I thought I would back and I said, all I wanted to do is see to prove.

[54:00] The 60th Amendment of the South Tumeless is a double right to take your excuse.

[54:05] Jesus used me and now I have, on my whole, more homes in town than in the Jesterbrook,

[54:10] which is never sure that it's in one private property.

[54:15] And I got to know that you today, but it's a property.

[54:18] And she said, but if I didn't do that, which I've asked twice, I'd ask you to just blow the whole thing.

[54:25] The woman is a liar.

[54:27] I'm assuming that both the regulations about me and I can prove it.

[54:31] When I went here, I saw Robert, you told me to talk to Robert back.

[54:35] That's her boss. I told him about it. Nothing happened.

[54:39] Nothing.

[54:40] So I said back a month later, after they implanted my motorhome,

[54:44] and I said that, and two other up like you told me to talk to Captain English,

[54:49] and we didn't know where me.

[54:51] I went outside and talked and they agreed with me.

[54:54] And it's a problem.

[54:55] However, I want something done.

[54:57] I need my motorhome.

[54:58] I don't have any tools.

[55:00] It's locked up.

[55:01] I can't do anything because of this woman who is just some reason

[55:06] to humiliate me.

[55:08] And I want to ask you, how would you guys deal?

[55:10] Somebody made up why it's about you.

[55:13] I'm kind of right.

[55:14] I have received right here.

[55:15] Why is it properly?

[55:17] In a industrial area where there's nobody around.

[55:21] I actually was part of the security of the people on the property,

[55:25] because a lot of certain people were hanging up there

[55:28] and they weren't there.

[55:30] They weren't didn't want it.

[55:31] So when I asked him about it, I said my stimulus stress

[55:35] I brought up motorhome.

[55:36] And then 10 months later, I have to pay him rent for 10 months.

[55:40] And this and this, I said,

[55:43] we don't need to tell him that I'm told about it.

[55:46] I've got to do it with my motorhome model.

[55:48] First of all, it's private property.

[55:50] You didn't have the right.

[55:52] What took it 10 months?

[55:54] I want some answers.

[55:56] What did you sit there?

[55:58] I want my motorhome back.

[56:00] And if it's gone, I want to talk to a couple of people.

[56:03] What do you have to do?

[56:05] The power of the nation is sitting on this.

[56:07] It's a third time.

[56:09] I had the word to go.

[56:12] What do you want to do?

[56:14] I'm going to live outside tonight.

[56:18] Thank you very much.

[56:21] Thank you very much.

[56:22] Okay.

[56:25] That's it.

[56:26] Our next speaker is Robert.

[56:39] Free speech.

[56:42] Well, let's start with this free speech.

[56:46] Not everything has to be positive for it.

[56:49] So we have a canceled meeting for civil service commission,

[56:56] which they do a great job of letting people know.

[56:59] We had a Asian-Americans,

[57:02] Pacific Islander heritage,

[57:04] month celebration last week.

[57:06] Kind of stealing your guys' thunder

[57:08] and kiss you guys didn't realize that.

[57:11] And then the meeting was the city meeting

[57:14] canceled.

[57:15] And then the cancellation paper paperwork wasn't

[57:18] obviously available,

[57:20] like obviously available.

[57:22] It was hidden in cancellations.

[57:24] And then the city workshop on the calendar was called

[57:27] the city meeting on the paperwork.

[57:29] So you know, these are a lot of clerical things for

[57:33] trans, like you guys have definitions, right?

[57:36] And then you guys use these definitions to mean something.

[57:39] So like let's go to a committee website.

[57:42] We're also calls them a board.

[57:45] We're also calls them a member, right?

[57:51] So like these, when I tell you they're used interchangeably,

[57:56] it's because the city uses them interchangeably.

[57:59] But yet they apply rules to different boards

[58:02] and different commissions even though they claim it's the board or whatever.

[58:06] So let's go back to other cancellations

[58:11] or oddities.

[58:18] We remind everybody about the election coming up

[58:20] and that everybody should be voting.

[58:23] And, you know, if you see a problem,

[58:26] make sure to report it.

[58:27] And we don't want to have a repeat of last year.

[58:31] How about the public outreach for anyone who's running?

[58:34] Right?

[58:35] I know there's been some events held.

[58:37] But they haven't held any, I mean,

[58:40] Jose, I press the auto hoods as meeting every month.

[58:43] So I will give him credit for what he does do.

[58:46] Caesar Fernandez, he's another all star who holds public engagement events.

[58:51] Travis, when was your last one at the fire department?

[58:54] Maybe last year?

[58:57] Mr. Michael and Zunes, he likes to think the e-bikes

[59:01] were his community engagement events.

[59:04] Kind of like you do with the budget meetings.

[59:08] You know, the mayor, he just missed the press conference with me.

[59:12] So I get to call him out on that too.

[59:14] And 30 minutes before the press conference,

[59:16] that's obviously inappropriate.

[59:21] Okay, so like the sweet water authority has a district thing for your water.

[59:26] We don't seem to have a board that represents us for wastewater

[59:30] or a good way for the public to get engaged in that matter.

[59:34] You know, I know we go to JPA with Jose,

[59:37] but I'd like to see something with wastewater come up more.

[59:40] Thank you.

[59:43] Thank you very much.

[59:45] Because of the limit of seven speakers,

[59:48] we're going to continue with our agenda.

[59:51] If you had put in a speaker's lip prior for public comments,

[59:56] you will still be able to speak under item nine.

[59:59] Item nine.

[1:00:00] We will now move on to item 71, which is a public hearing to conduct a hearing to approve the issuance

[1:00:10] of tax exempt, multi-family housing revenue bonds. City manager, the floor's yours.

[1:00:17] Thank you, Mayor Staff, for the approaching with the presentation.

[1:00:38] Good evening, Honorable Mayor and Council.

[1:00:40] Brian, welcome to Housing Manager in the Department of Housing and Home Services.

[1:00:45] I'm joined here by our director, Stacey Kers.

[1:00:49] Here to present a Tephra hearing for O. Ty Ranch Phase 2.

[1:00:55] So just to give a big picture overview of what multi-family housing revenue bonds are.

[1:01:02] These are awarded by the California debt limit allocation committee, or Sid Lack, which is a state

[1:01:08] agency. It's a form of low-cost financing for affordable housing developments, and they're

[1:01:14] typically paired with funding from the California Tax Credit Allocation Committee, or TKAC.

[1:01:23] It's the income from interest is tax-free, so the end result can be financed at a lower interest rate

[1:01:36] for developers, affordable housing.

[1:01:40] There's no city or housing authority, financial obligation, and connection with these bonds,

[1:01:46] especially not this one because we're not the bond issuer, and then they're repaid to the

[1:01:51] lender from rental revenue.

[1:01:55] So just to, again, an overview of the process, sit back, awards the funds, there's a governmental

[1:02:03] lender, which can be the true of a housing authority, or could be an outside issuer, that

[1:02:11] acts in collaboration with the funding lender, which is typically a private bank. In this case,

[1:02:16] it's city bank, and they lend the funds to the project.

[1:02:22] So the government or government government or lender in this case is the California Municipal

[1:02:29] Finance Agency, CMFA. It's a joint powers authority, and Chulvestez a member of it of

[1:02:36] that organization. It's one of the largest statewide bond issuer in California. In this case,

[1:02:43] staff approve recommends approval of CMFA as an outside issuer instead of itself, because of kind

[1:02:52] of an esoteric instrument called recycled bonds. CMFA is able to issue recycled bonds to the

[1:02:59] project, and that helps it be more competitive for state funding, and helps the project

[1:03:04] move forward. And the Chulvestez housing authority does not have that capacity.

[1:03:12] So in connection with the bond issuance, the city as the local jurisdiction has to hold a public

[1:03:21] caring under the tax equity and fiscal responsibility act of 1982, and the public has forgiven

[1:03:27] the opportunity to consider it and provide comment. It has to be held by the local jurisdiction

[1:03:34] not the bond issuer. And in this case, they're seeking bond amount not to exceed $80 million. It's a big

[1:03:39] project. They're probably not going to actually issue bonds in that high of an amount, but they want a

[1:03:45] little bit of a cushion, just in case. So a little bit about the project that they're seeking a approval

[1:03:54] for. This is for a project in village eight east, and kind of a south east corner of Chulvestez,

[1:04:02] council district three. In this village, home fed corporation is the master developer, but the actual

[1:04:09] project developers meta housing corporation, which develops affordable housing all throughout California.

[1:04:16] This site is adjacent to Olympian high school, and right next to the state room 125.

[1:04:26] It's in the state as published these what they call opportunity maps of based on the school quality,

[1:04:35] the proximity to jobs, and other amenities. And they've designated this area high resource and neighborhood

[1:04:42] designation. So this is where we want housing, especially for low income households, because it

[1:04:47] gives them opportunity to succeed and to be integrated into a thriving community. All of the villages

[1:04:58] have inclusionary obligations in accordance with our inclusionary housing ordinance. So this would this

[1:05:07] development would partially fulfill the inclusionary obligation for village eight east.

[1:05:15] So the project is 270 units total, so 267 affordable units and three managers units, a four story

[1:05:22] would frame development. It's going to have amenities, including community rooms, fitness, and yoga rooms,

[1:05:30] outdoor barbecues, and a fire pit, and some outdoor courtyards, and a tall lot for kids.

[1:05:37] It's a mix of unit sizes, one bedroom, two bedroom, and three bedroom units, and it will be a range

[1:05:44] of household incomes. So the term we use in this in the affordable housing industry is area median

[1:05:53] income, so it will be from 30% of area median income or AMI to 70% of AMI. So just to put that in real world

[1:06:02] terms that would maybe, you know, at the lower end it may be seniors living on just social security

[1:06:11] at the higher end it could be, you know, blue collar workers or people in kind of retail or

[1:06:19] service jobs that can support themselves but need a little bit of assistance to just to have a

[1:06:27] place that they can live with dignity. The development is currently in planning review and they're

[1:06:37] hoping for a summer construction start. They have some tight deadlines with the state agencies,

[1:06:43] T-Canac and Sidlock, and then it'll be completed in 2028. So the staff recommendation is that the city

[1:06:52] of Chulavis to conduct a public hearing and adopt a resolution authorizing the issuance of tax

[1:06:57] exempt bonds for the OTI Ranch Family Performance Project and certain other matters relating there too.

[1:07:04] Thank you. By the way, we also have staff from CMFA and in attendance and they're supposed to be people

[1:07:12] from some staff from meta and attendance. They may have gotten stuck in traffic but they're available for

[1:07:20] questions if they're here. Thank you very much. I'm going to now open the public hearing.

[1:07:28] First, I'm going to see if anybody from the dias has any questions. I see nobody in the speakers queue.

[1:07:36] What I'll do then is ask the city clerk if we have any speakers to the side of them. We have one speaker.

[1:07:51] Back. We were just going over terminology, just so we're all familiar with the same thing

[1:08:13] I'm talking about. It applies across the board. Let's read it together.

[1:08:20] Tax exempt, multi-family housing. We'll repeat it again. Tax exempt, multi-family housing.

[1:08:39] Come on. Are you tax exempt? Come on, you guys. This is bad as the last presentation where they said

[1:08:48] a tax wasn't a tax. I think the public doesn't like to be treated like idiots.

[1:09:04] We're also tired of seeing some people get tax exempt anything. I was watching this discovery channel

[1:09:14] thing and they had this bridge, right? It was in law that it was a tax exempt revenue stream

[1:09:25] poor donor, which it was bought by a private person. He has a guarantee by law to have a

[1:09:33] tax exempt income. I'm glad we're all getting the point now. How do you guys make your money again?

[1:09:42] Off of taxes. Oh my gosh. Let's go full circle. It's so interesting.

[1:09:53] The housing restrictions are just as bad as the food restrictions. You put all these people in a bubble

[1:10:01] and you can only you can get it if you're this person. So you want the guests to do. You create the

[1:10:10] problem to keep them in the problem. It's always a tax exempt benefit to the person who made it.

[1:10:20] I mean, isn't this the fraud waste and abuse, we're all just trying to call out when we see it.

[1:10:26] Whether it's an NGO, whether it's a politician, whether it's a piss and sooner.

[1:10:32] Corporation. It's all good. We did this exercise though. You know, tax exempt all the time,

[1:10:44] family, housing. I think you guys just got to read it a couple of times to get it. I got more tonight too

[1:10:50] because I pay attention. I'm starting to understand that the words matter and we should try to use

[1:10:59] definitions that are going to reflect what matters the most to the people. So thank you.

[1:11:06] Madam Clerk, are there any other speakers? We have no additional speakers. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead

[1:11:11] and officially close the public hearing. I will now recognize the member from District 2.

[1:11:19] I wanted to move the resolution for if I get a second. I will give you the second and the floor is yours.

[1:11:26] One of the opportunities we have is the members of the... Sorry.

[1:11:34] One of the opportunities we have as members of the City Council is to collaborate with this group

[1:11:41] that's using the structure to incentivize businesses to build houses that would otherwise not be built.

[1:11:50] That mechanism or the benefit to these investors is that they are tax exempt. The social benefit

[1:11:57] of these investments are that people with less means following a formula benefit from the development of this

[1:12:06] housing and it would be challenging or shocking if we were creating structures that are tack exempt

[1:12:15] that benefit wealthy or people of means. There is a social benefit that's associated with this

[1:12:26] and at present we have a system and may not be the fairest system but it is the system we have

[1:12:34] that benefits people who are of lesser means and I'd like to invite staff to just

[1:12:44] not start over on your presentation but just talk about who benefits and how they've been identified

[1:12:50] as the beneficiaries of this kind of housing. There's a standard that it's used to determine

[1:13:03] the income level and from that income level and you'll leave for the county. There's a percentage

[1:13:09] that people become eligible for once they hit that threshold of income. Anybody above that in

[1:13:14] most cases probably would not benefit for socially processed housing I'll use that terminology.

[1:13:24] So Mr. Mayor I'm very supportive of this. The UT reported recently that San Diego County is a head

[1:13:33] in terms of producing affordable housing and it takes these kinds of structures to induce

[1:13:41] government or to incentivize private the private sector to cooperate with government and the

[1:13:48] development of this housing. I appreciate questions that arise regarding this but I would argue that if

[1:14:01] we did not incentivize the investment community to produce these they would not be built.

[1:14:08] And for that reason I'm supportive of this motion and this process and I hope all of us can agree

[1:14:15] that we do need more affordable housing in our city. Thank you. Did you still have a question for staff?

[1:14:21] Yes, I did. I'd be interested in them just explaining. Very brief. Go ahead and turn on your mic again.

[1:14:28] Just explaining very briefly the income level threshold that is set for the county maybe on the

[1:14:35] annual basis and then how people qualify based on a percentage of that.

[1:15:00] Area here in San Diego. So it actually just got updated, and 130,000, $900 is the area, what's considered

[1:15:07] the area meeting income for a family of four. And so then you back out 30% of that, or 70% of that.

[1:15:14] So currently, for this particular development, 30% for a family of four is a little over $52,000. And

[1:15:22] then all the way up to 70% AMI for a family four would be approximately $90,000. So that's the range

[1:15:29] of families that it's going to serve. And again, it can serve single people all the way up to larger

[1:15:35] families with the one to three bedrooms that this is going to provide. That is a lot of times

[1:15:41] as Brian indicated, service workers, and other types of employment that we really, we need here

[1:15:48] to be able to keep businesses running in the city of Chulivista. And this helps us provide that job's housing

[1:15:54] balance.

[1:15:55] Thank you very much for the explanation.

[1:15:58] Thank you very much. All recognize the member from District 3.

[1:16:05] One of the things that we need to consider is an elected body is representing all facets.

[1:16:16] Is recognizing all facets of every resident living in the city of Chulivista to the most

[1:16:22] distant franchise low income to the very wealthy. And we have a pretty dynamic income level in the

[1:16:28] city of Chulivista. I grew up in the majority of my childhood living in section eight apartments.

[1:16:35] I noticed like living. Unlike how I live now, at the opportunity to go to college, my wife and I

[1:16:41] with very high advanced degrees, and we're able to provide for our children while sending the college without

[1:16:47] having to worry about that. My children attend a limpian high school in front of where this building

[1:16:52] is going to be. And I want other families from distant franchise communities from lower income families

[1:16:58] that have the same opportunities to go to limpian high school just like my children and thrive.

[1:17:04] But along with that, that is exactly what our tax dollars go to.

[1:17:09] And as a city, we are meeting the federal threshold and local threshold, the Sanio County,

[1:17:13] matter of fact, we are leading the entire county of all 18 cities in providing this type of housing

[1:17:19] because it's needed. Because this isn't about the well-to-do versus the low-to-do. It's about providing

[1:17:27] a housing to give other people opportunities. And this is why it's done. I don't want to say too much,

[1:17:33] but I really want to appreciate the comments that councilman put a Seattle articulated so well.

[1:17:38] This is an intentional effort to give low-income residents the opportunity to live in the same

[1:17:44] middle-class community that I am fortunate to live in. Thank you, everybody.

[1:17:51] Madam Clerk, we have a motion in a second if you could please read the heading.

[1:17:58] My apologies. Item 7.1 is the resolution of the City Council, the City of Chilivista,

[1:18:08] approving the issuance of the California Municipal Financing Authority,

[1:18:12] exempt facility bonds for a qualified residential rental project, and an aggregate principle

[1:18:17] amount not to exceed $80 million for the purpose of financing or refinancing the acquisition,

[1:18:24] construction, improvement, and equipping of the OTI Ranch 2, and certain other matters relating there too.

[1:18:38] Please vote.

[1:18:56] Item's carry unanimously. We will now move on to 72, which is another public hearing.

[1:19:08] This is a very, very important item. It is the annual budget and consideration of adopting the

[1:19:20] operating budget, but also the capital improvement budgets. So Madam City Clerk, this floor is yours.

[1:19:30] Hello, City Council. For this item, we do not have a prepared presentation since it's

[1:19:39] a continuation of the item we presented two weeks ago.

[1:19:42] Great. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers on this item?

[1:19:48] We do have speakers. Our first speaker on this item is John Acosta. I don't see him in the audience though.

[1:19:57] And our next speaker is Robert.

[1:20:16] I'm back again.

[1:20:26] We have some hiccups, right? Try folds not working in the beginning, any better clarification.

[1:20:36] You know, I do have one interesting question though. Why is it that I see the measure P

[1:20:45] citizen oversight vote to approve, but I don't see the measure A. I mean, I would have figured

[1:20:59] they both would have gave their consent for their different budget outlooks.

[1:21:05] And I see the last attachment, attachment 7, is the measure P citizen,

[1:21:14] supplemental board commission committee recommendations. Following the publication of this agenda,

[1:21:20] measure P oversight, met on May 14th and affirmed that the city's managers pose budget for fiscal

[1:21:29] year 2026 to 27 for the measure P sales tax fund is in compliance with the city's approved

[1:21:39] infrastructure facilities and equipment expenditure. So they're saying they approved. And so I just

[1:21:47] was going to the documents and I just don't see the other one. And I think I thought it would be

[1:21:55] there because I thought they voted on this and they saw this presentation and I mean, they should

[1:22:01] upset to see it, right? There was an item that came up about homeless item at this point.

[1:22:12] It's kind of mixed within the documents, but it was for a million dollars a continuation.

[1:22:18] And then when I looked into the writing of the text of what they said that that fund was for,

[1:22:24] was for the continued support of that type of project. But there's no line items of cost with

[1:22:32] it before only into that one meeting. That's measure P. So, like I said, I think there would be one

[1:22:44] and I would just advise that it be all included together so that way we can see what both tax boards

[1:22:52] are saying. But I know we don't get to talk. I just get to talk at you guys. So, you know, sometimes

[1:23:04] can say stuff and you know what I'm talking about. But time is valuable. It's a very valuable.

[1:23:17] It's spent a lot of time going to meetings to learn all this stuff. And I don't hear any questions from

[1:23:25] you guys sometimes. I don't hear any reports about the board. You guys are part of, I don't hear updates.

[1:23:33] And so with my last 10 seconds, I just, you know, beg of you and your commission that the end

[1:23:40] comments tell us what you're doing. Thank you. I will recognize the member from District 2.

[1:24:01] There's a couple of items that have come up in today's meeting that I wish you would describe.

[1:24:06] The, the flyer or major that we all receive regarding the sewer rates is a contemplated

[1:24:14] new income opportunity. But in order for you to implement something like that, you would have needed a

[1:24:22] 2018 hearing. Did you have a 2018 hearing? Was it five years ago, or is it a part of a multi-year

[1:24:29] raise or how does that work? So the reduced sewer program is funded through late fees, which doesn't

[1:24:35] require it to have a 2018 hearing. So that's that funding source for that program. That letters and

[1:24:44] mailers went out in early April for folks to all sewer customers. We sent out a mailer to our

[1:24:52] sea water customers and then through, for our OOTI water district customers, those received part of

[1:24:59] their typical bill. There was notices inside of there to, to, to, regarding the program and an opportunity

[1:25:06] apply, which occurred from April to the middle of May. Yes, but specifically, I think, what we received and

[1:25:14] what was shown today was, notice from April and infrastructure and it was associated with,

[1:25:21] you're referring to the sewer rate increase that is correct. Yes. And so I'm just trying because we're

[1:25:26] adopting the budget. What I'm trying to clarify for everyone is that that raise is already contemplated

[1:25:32] because the act to create the rate structure was done years behind. Or maybe we can let Mr. Char

[1:25:42] explain. I good afternoon, everyone. We share director engineering couple of projects department.

[1:25:48] So yes, the letter that was recently sent out to all the residents that receive a sewer service

[1:25:54] is notification that the second element of the sewer fee rate structure is going to increase.

[1:26:02] So let me take a step back to provide more context to that. So our sewer fees that are collected,

[1:26:08] like the City of the West as made up of two components. The first component is the amount that's

[1:26:14] collected by the City of the West in order to be able to maintain the sewer infrastructure. The second

[1:26:20] is the amount that is a pass through rate that is paid to the City of San Diego as part of our

[1:26:27] contribution towards the metropolitan group that we are part of, which is a rate that is sorry, a fee that

[1:26:38] is collected by the City of San Diego in order to be able to treat the wastewater that City of

[1:26:43] Chula Vista sends over to San Diego. So Chula Vista is part of a large group that is called a

[1:26:50] metropolitan group that basically breaks up the cost of that treatment of the wastewater that's delivered

[1:26:57] by Chula Vista. And so our fee rate structure is based out of a base rate and then also the

[1:27:04] pass through rate. So the letter that was sent out to the constituents of Chula Vista most recently

[1:27:09] is based on the pass through rate that the City of San Diego every year is discussed and basically

[1:27:18] calculated as to what's the contribution of each of the members. In this case, there was an increase

[1:27:24] that each of the members had to pay in order to continue with the service of the treatment of wastewater

[1:27:31] and it's collected through that service. And so yes, when the sewer fee rate structure was presented,

[1:27:38] there is a total amount of years where it was agreed upon that the pat that the any increase in that rate

[1:27:46] or if there was a decrease would be passed along to the constituents of Chula Vista. In this case,

[1:27:52] in this year there was a fee increase and that was what was described in that particular letter.

[1:27:57] Thank you and I think that clarifies how the fee structure is created but I'm trying to get it

[1:28:07] maybe the City Manager can respond. City Manager can you tell us when the two 18 hearing and I'm

[1:28:13] focusing on that because there's a public component to that hearing, to a 2018 hearing where the public

[1:28:20] is sent a letter. They have 90 days or 45 days whatever it is to give us the legislative body

[1:28:29] feedback about their positionality with regard to the fee structure. The fee structure can set

[1:28:37] time period for these fees to apply multiple years, one year, two years, three years and so what I'm

[1:28:44] trying to confirm to the public is that it is a process that is envisioned and it is protected

[1:28:50] under the constitution of the state of California and it ensures under 2018 that we only collecting

[1:28:58] enough in the being to maintain the system and to pay the proportional use of the system as you just

[1:29:05] described and it's actually a pretty good system when you don't need to have a popular vote every

[1:29:16] time you need to agree that we need a sewer system that serves all of us. I would expect most people

[1:29:23] would vote no if they had a democratic vote in that regard but in a represented government like ours

[1:29:30] we do have a process the public is able to vote 50% plus one of the public of many

[1:29:37] petition against would prevent us from moving forward with that particular fee proposal at that time

[1:29:45] and so I'm taking the time to explain this is I need to make sure the public was informed that it is

[1:29:51] in spontaneous that it is actually part of our plan and it actually reflects on the enterprise side

[1:29:58] of our budget and expected.

[1:30:00] We are trying to quickly pull the date right now. It's looking like that was on April 26, 2022.

[1:30:06] But that's what's doing some quick research while we're up here. So that was a hearing, a public hearing,

[1:30:12] President to prop to 18. We went through the process. Everything was noticed and approved and adopted, consistent with that process.

[1:30:19] I appreciate and I appreciate Mr. Shaw, your insights that you shared. There's now a second item that I want to discuss.

[1:30:28] It will remember the public introduced measure P. And the discussion in measure P associated with how we're spending money to support our work with the unhoused.

[1:30:42] And as was reported last year, we were going to invest those resources with the support of the Commission's citizens commission to clean up some of the encampments in our area that had become unmanageable.

[1:30:58] And by that, the primary one, and my council colleague Caesar drove me to one of these camps. It was over on near the Walmart property, near the Walmart store that is closest to national cities like right off the right on Broadway.

[1:31:22] And so the response that we got from the city manager then in consultation with our citizens group of measure P is that we would be investing resources.

[1:31:32] I think the budget amount was about a million dollars. And those would extend to specifically address encampment abatement.

[1:31:40] So there are private entities that are doing this as well. And I can speak to one that happened on the Bayfront right along the five that cost over a hundred thousand dollars to clean up.

[1:31:54] It was a privately funded cleanup. But there are parts of cleanups that we have to undertake that are in public areas that no one is going to take the opportunity to do that except government.

[1:32:06] And so I just wanted to comment that under measure P. If I'm correct, that is how we're using the funds that are described in that memo.

[1:32:17] And it's probably the case that every single instance requires different things. And that's why you don't have an itemized budget. It's probably project based.

[1:32:26] And the line item is a sinking fund that is used to then support the individual expenses.

[1:32:32] Is this a city manager? Is that something you guys can confirm or am I completely off balance your complete correct council member? There is a million dollars dedicated to that abatement services.

[1:32:45] Another opportunity is that when we work with measure A funds, measure A funds primarily support staffing and those votes take place in different ways and in different instances.

[1:32:59] And so is there a difference between why measure A recommendation is not in your budget attachments and measure P is which is more of a capital infrastructure activity.

[1:33:12] Because you did present the budget in multiple instances where you presented the general fund and the capital budget. And I assume one of the sources of the capital budget is measure P.

[1:33:23] So just to clarify in in our staff report, we do under the Bores and Commission committee recommendation section. We do list that we went to measure A citizens oversight committee on April 9.

[1:33:37] So we went to both measure A citizens oversight committee as well as measure a piece oversight committee and both committees determine that they were in compliance with the city's proof expenditure plans.

[1:33:52] Thank you very much. I think one of the opportunities we all have and I joined all of us on the council to do so is this city has a balanced budget.

[1:34:05] This city, it's legislative body, it's professional staff led by the city manager have created a balanced budget.

[1:34:16] I think we need to it didn't happen in the last three months it's been happening over planning and planning and planning that happens over years.

[1:34:25] Our current staff are the current custodians of that those policy choices have been made over time.

[1:34:33] And I just want to commend everyone for being responsible to the public two years ago I work closely with a mayor to pass measure P 2.0.

[1:34:47] We work together we collaborated and the public gave us a 72% approval by passing it again.

[1:34:56] That expresses confidence in how we are using and tax dollars to appropriately serve this community.

[1:35:03] Now I wish that with 100% but there are some folks that may choose not to vote on of but if we can get 70% on anything.

[1:35:12] I'm very proud of that.

[1:35:14] And so I want to thank all of our colleagues here on the dias for our shared work.

[1:35:19] It takes us all to keep this budget balanced and with that at an appropriate time I move approval of the 2627 budget as presented.

[1:35:31] I know there's nine or ten different actions but maybe they need to be done individually or such but Mr. Mayor I really appreciate the opportunity to speak.

[1:35:40] Thank you.

[1:35:41] You're welcome in because there are nine different items and because of property ownership many of the council members have to recuse themselves.

[1:35:52] We're going to sort of go through a whole bit of different votes and everything so I do appreciate that but we want to make sure that.

[1:36:01] Yeah I appreciate your understanding on that I will now recognize the member from district three.

[1:36:09] I do have a refusal.

[1:36:10] I have a conflict of interest as to resolution E of the item 7.2 based on real property.

[1:36:16] I own and heralds mill avenue as a result.

[1:36:19] I will be recusing myself from participating specifically in only in resolution E of 7.2.

[1:36:25] Are you back?

[1:36:27] I will recognize the member from district one.

[1:36:33] I also have a property based conflict of interest.

[1:36:37] I can have photo resolution B and C and I will have to leave this dice.

[1:36:43] Thank you very much.

[1:36:44] What I'm going to do is go through.

[1:36:48] There are again nine items so I'm going to make the first motion to adopt the extra budget.

[1:36:56] We do have some public speakers on this side.

[1:36:59] That's a public hearing item.

[1:37:01] Yes.

[1:37:02] Let me officially open the public hearing and if you can call the first public speaker.

[1:37:14] I'm sorry.

[1:37:15] I think we did it already.

[1:37:17] That's okay.

[1:37:18] Didn't we already have Robert come up and speak?

[1:37:23] Robert you want to speak again?

[1:37:26] No.

[1:37:28] Okay.

[1:37:29] We're all on the same page so this is a good deal.

[1:37:33] So what I'm going to do is making sure that we publicly vote appropriately that each council member,

[1:37:41] including myself, have a restriction where we need to recuse ourselves.

[1:37:48] I'm going to go through a couple different ways of voting so we can get everything passed.

[1:37:54] And make sure that none of the council members actually vote on something that they shouldn't.

[1:38:00] So the first motion I'm going to make is for AF, G, H, I and J.

[1:38:06] There are no conflicts on that.

[1:38:09] So I think that should be the first vote.

[1:38:12] So I have a motion in a second.

[1:38:14] Mr. Mayor, before we vote since you just open the public hearing.

[1:38:18] Can you please close the public hearing?

[1:38:19] I will close the public hearing.

[1:38:21] Perfect.

[1:38:22] And now the public clearing is closed.

[1:38:25] I have a motion in a second.

[1:38:27] And again, that's AF, G, H, I, J, and Madam Clerk.

[1:38:32] If you can please read the heading.

[1:38:34] Yes.

[1:38:35] Item 7.2, A, is the resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista.

[1:38:41] Adopting the operating and capital improvement budgets for the City of Chilivista for a fiscal year.

[1:38:46] There are 20, 26, 27, and appropriating funds for the fiscal year ending June 30, 20, 27,

[1:38:52] excluding open space districts, 1, 20, zone 5, 20, zone 7, community facilities districts, 0, 7,

[1:39:01] M, 97, dash 1, and 97, dash 2, 99, dash 2, and capital improvement projects.

[1:39:09] Our K, 0, 3, 4, 9, item 7.2, F is resolution of the housing authority of the City of Chilivista,

[1:39:18] adopting the operating budget for the housing authority for fiscal year 20, 26, 27, appropriating funds for the fiscal year ending June 30, 20, 27,

[1:39:28] item 7.2, G is resolution of the successor agency to the redevelopment agency of the City of Chilivista,

[1:39:35] adopting the operating budget for the successor agency to the redevelopment agency for fiscal year 20, 26, 27,

[1:39:43] and appropriating funds for the fiscal year ending June 30, 20, 27, item 7.2, H is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista,

[1:39:52] many in the compensation schedule and classification plan to reflect the addition of various position titles and changes in salary as reflected

[1:40:00] in the fiscal year 20, 26, 27, operating budget, item 7.2, I is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista,

[1:40:09] approving the revised fiscal year 20, 26, 27, compensation schedule, effective July 10, 20, 26,

[1:40:16] as required by California Code of Regulations, Title 2, Section 570, .5, and item 7.2, J is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista,

[1:40:27] approving the amended compensation summary for all unrepresented employees and elected officials,

[1:40:32] including authorization for the mayor to execute any necessary contract amendments to implement said amended compensation summary for fiscal required.

[1:40:49] Please vote.

[1:40:59] 7.2, A, F, G, H, I, J, all passes unanimously.

[1:41:04] Now we're going to go to 7.2, B, because of property ownership, I need to recuse myself.

[1:41:11] I will now recognize the member from District 1.

[1:41:16] As I mentioned before, due to property based conflict of interest, I cannot vote on resolutions B or C.

[1:41:23] And I will hand the gavel to our deputy mayor to pass 7 to B.

[1:41:30] All right, we will now move on to item 7 to B. Are there any comments from the City Council on this item?

[1:41:39] I'll second. So we have a motion by council member, Presiado, second by council member Fernandez.

[1:41:44] Madam Kirk, would you please read the heading?

[1:41:47] Yes, item 7.2's resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista, adopting the operating budget for open space District 01 for fiscal year 202627 and appropriating funds for the fiscal year in June 30, 2027.

[1:42:04] All right, please vote.

[1:42:08] The motion carries with Mayor McKinney and council member Chilivista, abstain.

[1:42:24] I will now pass the gavel back to the mayor.

[1:42:35] I will move to item C and I will recognize the member from District 1.

[1:42:44] And she has already recused herself.

[1:42:47] So I will make a motion to approve a 7.2 item C. Do I have a second?

[1:42:55] I have a motion in the second for 7 to C.

[1:43:02] Item 7.2's resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista, adopting the operating budget for open space District 20s, owned 5 for fiscal year 202627 and appropriating funds for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2027.

[1:43:19] Please vote.

[1:43:28] 7 to C passes with four yes votes and with the member Carolina recusing herself.

[1:43:37] I will go ahead now and move to item 7 to D because of property ownership.

[1:43:43] I need to recuse myself. I will be handing the gavel to the deputy mayor.

[1:43:49] All right, onto item 7 to D.

[1:43:52] Are there any comments from the City Council on this item?

[1:43:56] Second. We have a motion by council member in Suna and second by council member Fernandez Madam Clerk.

[1:44:02] Would you please read the heading?

[1:44:05] Yes, item 7.2 D is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivista, adopting the operating budget for open space district number 20.

[1:44:13] Zone 7 Community Facilities District 07-M and a capital improvement budget for project PRK 0349 for fiscal year 202627 and appropriating funds for the fiscal year 202627.

[1:44:24] Please vote.

[1:44:31] Well, she carries with Mayor McKanibstein.

[1:44:38] I will now pass the gavel back to the mayor.

[1:44:49] Now we will move to item 7 to E as an echo.

[1:44:55] I will go ahead and make the motion for that. Do I have a second?

[1:45:00] Second. I have a motion. A second. Madam Clerk, if you can please read that.

[1:45:05] Yes, item 7.2. E is resolution of the City Council of the City of Chilivis adopting the operating budget for community.

[1:45:12] Facilities District 97-1, 97-2, 99-2, for fiscal year 2026-27, and appropriating funds for the fiscal year,

[1:45:22] your ending June 30, 2027. Please vote.

[1:45:34] Item carries four votes positive with member and zones that are accusing himself.

[1:45:40] Okay. I just want to thank our finance department for doing such an incredible job.

[1:45:48] On the numbers, you guys have done a stellar job. I want to thank our city manager for overseeing the budget as well.

[1:45:57] I think that we have gone out. I know many, we had many workshops and many opportunities to get the public involved.

[1:46:07] And I always find it interesting because we do all this hard work. We do all this public input.

[1:46:14] And when we finally get to the finalization, everybody, most people have already talked and been able to give their input.

[1:46:24] Still, we want to take input from people, but it was a great night.

[1:46:28] And I think it just shows you what a great job this city does at our budget, where we didn't have a lot of people who are unhappy about the budget this year.

[1:46:39] Again, congratulations. I really appreciate what you do staff and I appreciate all the department heads in our city. So thank you very much.

[1:46:48] Because it's getting late into the evening, and that was a major milestone. I am going to go ahead and I have some requests to take a break from the council members.

[1:46:59] So what we're going to do is we're going to take about approximately a 15 minute break and we'll reconvene at seven o'clock on that clock up there.

[1:47:08] So I appreciate everybody's patience, but we will be back and re-open the meeting at seven p.m. tonight.

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[2:03:30] Thank you, everybody. We're now reconvened the city council meeting. We're going to go to action items and we're going to start with action item 8-2, Madam City Manager.

[2:03:48] Thank you, Mr. Mayor Staff, is approaching to provide the presentation just one moment please.

[2:03:54] Thank you very much.

[2:04:04] Good evening, once again, Honorable Mayor and Council.

[2:04:08] I'm Brian Warwick, Housing Manager from the Housing and Homeless Services Department,

[2:04:12] and joined here by Stacey Kurtz, Director.

[2:04:15] And here to talk about and present a funding recommendation

[2:04:20] for the Park Hill UMC Affordable Housing Development proposal.

[2:04:26] So a little bit of background first.

[2:04:30] We, the city and the Chula Vista Housing Authority, which is another entity affiliated with the city,

[2:04:38] has some funds that we have to spend on production of affordable housing.

[2:04:45] So to do that, we hold what's called a nofa notice of funding availability.

[2:04:51] We have what's called low mod funds, or it's the full term is low and moderate income housing asset funds.

[2:04:59] They were approved for this purpose on June 10, 2025 by Council.

[2:05:05] And these funds, the amount that we put into this nofa has to be committed by June 30 of this year,

[2:05:14] under state redevelopment law.

[2:05:16] Low mod funds are a legacy of redevelopment in California.

[2:05:21] The city also has local housing trust fund dollars.

[2:05:27] We applied for a state matching grant program back in 2024, and we were awarded.

[2:05:34] $500,000 in matching grant funds for the local housing trust fund program.

[2:05:40] So we're packaging where we packaged those funds together with the low mod funds to have a larger part of funding

[2:05:50] available for our nofa.

[2:05:54] So we have 3 million in low mod funds that we have to commit by the end of this fiscal year.

[2:06:00] And one million in low housing trust funds.

[2:06:04] The low mod funds is a housing authority action.

[2:06:06] The low causing trust fund is a city action.

[2:06:09] And then of the one million in low housing trust fund were allowed to set aside $25,000 first half admin administrative costs.

[2:06:18] We issued the nofa in November of 2025 and gave about a two month window.

[2:06:24] First of all, we tried to really cast a wide net to make sure that we got as many applications as we could.

[2:06:29] We developers were notified through our planet Bids portal, and we also directly emailed all of the affordable developers in the region.

[2:06:41] And state wide developers as well, that we thought maybe interested in submitting a proposal.

[2:06:48] We held interviews with the respondents the week of February 5th, and then made our presenter our recommendations to the Housing and Homeless Advisory Commission on March 25th.

[2:07:05] And there's a typo here, but tonight's action is the city and housing authority recommendations.

[2:07:11] We would execute the loan agreement if approved by June 30th of this year.

[2:07:17] But that doesn't, that's, that's not the same as construction start, that's just a commitment.

[2:07:25] So our scoring criteria for proposals was just high level.

[2:07:30] It was based on location, the developer experience and the experience of the developer team project readiness.

[2:07:38] And the, the number and the depth of affordable units.

[2:07:44] So we received two proposals.

[2:07:48] One was the Bay View Point family apartments project, which the developer is Eden Housing, which is a statewide developer, based in the Bay Area.

[2:07:59] This would, would be their first project into the list.

[2:08:03] It's at the east street, trolley station on publicly owned land, the MTS trolley, trolley site.

[2:08:15] And then the second proposal was Park Hill, UMC, the developer is Waceland Housing and Development Corporation.

[2:08:21] At 545 East Naples, just east of the 805 and it's 68 units, 67 affordable.

[2:08:30] So our recommendation tonight is to move forward with the Park Hill UMC proposal.

[2:08:38] We felt that it had the, it was us, by the way, the panelist reviewing the applications was set of five city staff members in housing and also in finance.

[2:08:51] So the Park Hill UMC proposal, they had an experienced development team.

[2:08:57] We felt that it was a strong location.

[2:09:00] The project had, has, can qualify for Bay Wright land use approvals, but it's streamlined land use approvals.

[2:09:09] And then the affordability exceeds the requirements for the site and it aligns with our housing owner goals.

[2:09:16] So just all elaborate a little bit more on that.

[2:09:21] You know, Eden's proposal, the other proposal was, it was a serious proposal only considered it very carefully.

[2:09:26] And we really wanted to move forward.

[2:09:30] And city staff are helping behind the scenes helping to facilitate that project as well.

[2:09:36] But for transparency, I think it might help shed light on our decision making process to say where that project may have fallen short a little bit.

[2:09:46] The Eden project, it's already, it's on public lands, it's already subject to the surplus lands act, which has requirements for affordable housing.

[2:09:53] I believe there are requirements for that site was already 100 units.

[2:09:57] So there was a question of, you know, if this site is already required to build 100 affordable units, what additional benefit would the city funds bring.

[2:10:08] And then there were some timing issues, the funding, the state funding that the Eden project was applying for, there was a May 5 deadline so it's already passed.

[2:10:21] So it's too late for the, it would have been too late for the city commitment to boost that funding application to help leverage their score.

[2:10:30] And then on the, on the other hand, they are still working through some of their land use approvals.

[2:10:36] They're environmental approvals under the California Environmental Quality Act or Sequo.

[2:10:41] I'm not an expert in environmental law, but there was some question ultimately, as we worked through the proposals as to whether we could even award the funds to Eden before it had secured all of its land use approvals.

[2:10:57] Whereas with the Park William C project, it's exempt from Sequo under state law because of its location.

[2:11:06] So that was a major benefit for the Park William C project.

[2:11:15] So Park William C is located in, in district four, it's right adjacent to district three and district two.

[2:11:24] It's across the street from Greg Rogers Elementary School and Greg Rogers Park.

[2:11:32] It's really on the border of all three districts.

[2:11:37] There's a lot of nearby amenities.

[2:11:39] It's close to Sunbo Park as well, 99 Ranch grocery store.

[2:11:44] It's a short bus route from, to the Sharp Medical Center and it's a block away from the 704 bus route.

[2:11:52] There's also, you know, easy access to the 805 for people to, to get to their to work on other locations.

[2:12:01] So I mentioned land use approvals being a factor.

[2:12:04] Senate bill four is a bill that was passed a couple years ago.

[2:12:07] The full title is the Affordable Housing on Faith Lands Act.

[2:12:12] It also includes strong labor standards, so prevailing wage to make sure that the construction workers who build these projects can afford to live in the community and and make a good wage.

[2:12:30] And it requires de-districtions for a minimum of 55 years, which is what this project would be.

[2:12:38] So this project is on a church owned site.

[2:12:43] And it would, the site would continue to be owned by the United Methodist Church and the Wacland would enter into a ground lease.

[2:12:53] So Wacland Housing, a little bit about them as they were at their strong developer.

[2:12:59] The city has worked with them.

[2:13:01] We're currently working with them on the Palomar point project, which is under construction.

[2:13:07] And they've completed Casa Anita in, at 760, Anita Street, Los Angeles, Los Casinos.

[2:13:16] And they, they have a solid track record delivering housing being sensitive to the community.

[2:13:24] And they have, they have another project that's saved all right, that's in building review right now.

[2:13:29] And they, they've worked really hard to be good partners with the city and stay aligned with the city on its goals.

[2:13:36] And the United Methodist Church, it's it's mission driven and they really want to see affordable housing on this site.

[2:13:47] And the church has partnered with Wacland on other properties throughout the region, so it's a proven model.

[2:13:58] And about the project itself, it's 67 affordable units plus one managers unit.

[2:14:04] It would be at a range of income levels.

[2:14:06] A little bit deeper targeting than the project I presented earlier than Meta project.

[2:14:12] So this would be 30% of area median income up to 60% of area median income.

[2:14:18] There would be family size units.

[2:14:21] So range of one, two and three bedroom units.

[2:14:26] And you know, they're really in their design, they're they're going after what it's sometimes called gentle density.

[2:14:32] They want to respect it is, you know, a predominantly single family neighborhood.

[2:14:36] They want to respect that and be good neighbors.

[2:14:39] And so they want to have it be kind of a low profile development as much as possible within the neighborhood.

[2:14:48] This is their initial site plan, but I just want to give two caveats.

[2:14:52] One is tonight's item is not really consistent like approving or denying the site.

[2:15:00] The design of the project. And also, the design is still very preliminary and subject to change. So I think

[2:15:08] Quakeland is here and wants to be good partners with the city and residents in considering

[2:15:15] the innovating, the design options. And in conjunction with other factors, project feasibility,

[2:15:22] and there's all kinds of considerations, but they want to be able to balance that and be good

[2:15:28] neighbors. So Quakeland did carry out some community outreach last Thursday. They knocked on about 75

[2:15:38] doors in the neighborhood. You can see in the the yellow, the highlighted areas were the doors

[2:15:45] that they knocked on. And just inform people about the project, give them a one-pager with information

[2:15:52] and contact information for follow-up. And they also reached up to the school, I'm not sure if they've

[2:16:01] heard back yet. I will say one thing about the school, statewide, there is kind of a demographic crisis

[2:16:14] coming with the school districts statewide and enrollment dropping just because of people having fewer children.

[2:16:23] So the fact that this site would be directly across the street from a school would hopefully in the long term

[2:16:28] help ensure that the Greek Gragrotchers elementary continues to thrive as a local school.

[2:16:34] The anticipated project financing, this is all very preliminary, but the city and the housing

[2:16:43] authority would be the first funder in this project, so our 4 million, and then they would

[2:16:50] use state funds, so tax credit equity and funds from the California Department of Housing

[2:16:56] and Community Development, and then finally they would get a conventional loan for the remaining

[2:17:03] balance. This is kind of a big picture perspective, but it's just emphasize again that

[2:17:14] the city is kind of a starting point, and this is just the initial point for this project.

[2:17:23] So if the Council authorizes this commitment tonight, there's still a ways away from

[2:17:34] starting construction, so they would apply for state funding in 2027, 2028. The construction

[2:17:44] start would most likely not happen until 2029 at the soonest, and it would take a year

[2:17:50] and after two years to complete construction. Again, it's a lot of that depends on how competitive

[2:17:58] they might be for state and federal funding sources, so this timeline is still very preliminary.

[2:18:07] We said a target in the resolution of three years to a deadline to construction start if they

[2:18:13] don't reach that, we would ask them to come back to Council to extend the timeline or renew

[2:18:20] the commitment. So the recommendation tonight is that the City Council on Housing Authority,

[2:18:28] a proof of funding commitment of up to $4 million to the Park Hill UMC, affordable housing

[2:18:33] project, and I just wanted to note also that we have some staff from Waceland, Rebecca Louis, the

[2:18:40] President and CEO of Waceland this year, along with the project manager, and from you know in Methodist

[2:18:46] Church we have Pastor Joel here, and we also have outside Council here to if the Council would like to ask

[2:18:58] any questions about the legal, any legal questions regarding the project, so available for questions. Thank you.

[2:19:06] Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers on the side? Yes, Mr. Mayor, we have four speakers.

[2:19:13] Stephanie Rodriguez, followed my Carl Rodriguez, followed by Michael Holstein, followed by Robert. Thank you.

[2:19:20] Hi, my name is Stephanie Rodriguez, and I'm a lifelong resident of Chulivista. I'm also an 86 graduate

[2:19:42] of Beneet of the High School, along with the mayor. I'm also a homeowner on Maraposa Circle.

[2:19:49] I'm here today to voice my protest against the proposed construction at 545 East Naples.

[2:20:01] As you know, this area is currently a baseball field owned by the church, but there's a plan to build

[2:20:08] 68 units on this small parcel owned by Park Hill Methodist Church. Park Hill Methodist Church has not been a

[2:20:17] really good neighbor to most of us on Maraposa Circle. They allowed their previous tenant to build an improved baseball

[2:20:29] field, and they made soil modifications to that field resulting in thousands of dollars in loss

[2:20:38] of landscaping, fence repairs, and our own investment into a retaining wall to prevent further damage.

[2:20:47] The church did nothing for years until they finally accepted fault and erected a makeshift

[2:20:53] three foot by 40 foot metal barrier behind my fence in an attempt to catch mud and eroding dirt

[2:21:03] from reaching my property. In the past few years, we've made complaints to the city, engineering department,

[2:21:10] code enforcement, construction and stormwater protection inspectors were on scene to look for the

[2:21:16] cause of possible drainage leaks impacting my property. The city found that Park Hill Methodist Church

[2:21:24] allowed its tenant to illegally truck in loads of filled dirt that was neither properly graded or compacted

[2:21:32] and this resulted in huge crevices forming in the slope behind my home and mud sliding into my backyard

[2:21:41] for years. The city then sided the church and the filled dirt was required to be removed.

[2:21:47] So for years, our complaints to this church resulted in little to no response and my concern is that now

[2:21:54] this troubled area may be an entire apartment complex with the same drainage and erosion issues.

[2:22:04] I'm worried about the impact on my property and that of my neighbors when building begins

[2:22:09] and while the need for affordable housing is obvious, so look at how this negatively impacts the

[2:22:14] existing houses around the proposed developments is just as important. Thank you.

[2:22:26] Our next speaker is Call Rodriguez followed by Michael Olstein followed by Robert.

[2:22:32] Hi, my name is Call Rodriguez and we've been neighbors to Park Hill Methodist Church for

[2:22:41] approximately 16 years and first, five or six years, we're fine. We've got a lot of fine. But 10 years

[2:22:50] into our state, we started notice first it was a baseball's being hit over into our property.

[2:22:57] Thankfully no one got hurt. We would call the church and they did nothing.

[2:23:05] So that was a beginning of it and then the the coach who ran the baseball team and the batting cage was

[2:23:15] allowed to again bring the filter and expand the baseball field northward towards us

[2:23:27] and in the process after a couple of rains, water and lights are flowing down the hill and again

[2:23:36] of course we called the church because the owner property and they did almost nothing except

[2:23:45] they were like a small barrier in front of our back fence but that was the extent of it. They didn't

[2:23:55] offer to reimburse us. They didn't say they're sorry and I guess the point that I'm trying to make here

[2:24:03] is after all that going back and forth since 2016, why would you trust the church with such a big

[2:24:13] project and a much bigger budget when he couldn't handle the batting they had before there

[2:24:20] with a baseball field that got a big expansion. I don't understand why we didn't consider this

[2:24:29] but that's all I have to say thank you. Thank you.

[2:24:37] Our next speaker is Michael Olstein followed by Robert followed by Reverend Louis Garcia

[2:24:43] Good evening city council members my name is Michael Olstein and I live directly adjacent to the proposed

[2:24:53] housing development at 545 East Napel Street. First I want to be clear that I do support the broader

[2:25:00] goal of affordable increasing affordable housing in our community. I understand the need for more housing

[2:25:06] opportunities and I appreciate the effort being made to address that challenge. My hope tonight is not

[2:25:12] to stop development entirely. My concern is that the current site plan places a disreportionant burden

[2:25:19] on the immediate neighboring properties including my own without adequately addressing privacy and safety impacts.

[2:25:27] Specifically the proposed parking lot sits approximately 15 feet above the elevation of my property

[2:25:33] with parking spaces pointed directly toward my backyard and bedrooms. As currently designed headlights

[2:25:39] from parked or maneuvering vehicles will shine directly into our space on a nightly basis. This is

[2:25:44] not a minor inconvenience. This is a significant quality of life and privacy issue for my family.

[2:25:51] In addition the proposed building height with the current setback creates another serious concern.

[2:25:56] At 40 feet tall the third story units would have a direct line of sight into my backyard in bedroom.

[2:26:02] Right now the design does not appear to include sufficient buffering, landscaping,

[2:26:08] or architectural mitigation to protect the privacy of adjacent homeowners.

[2:26:14] I'm not here asking the council to reject affordable housing. I'm asking the council to ensure that

[2:26:19] this project is designed responsibly and compatible with the surrounding neighborhood before public

[2:26:24] funding is approved. We were first contacted by Park Hill United Methodist and the developer only five

[2:26:30] days ago. Some of our neighbors we spoke to received no notice of this development at all,

[2:26:35] limiting their ability to research and ask questions. To their credit,

[2:26:39] Waceland Housing has promptly responded to all of our questions but we would like to see how they plan

[2:26:45] to address our concerns before development is approved. I respectfully request that the council

[2:26:50] pause or condition funding approval until the developer works with the adjacent property owners

[2:26:55] to address these impacts their reasonable design modifications. Possible solutions could include

[2:27:00] increased setbacks, revised parking orientation, enhanced screening and landscaping,

[2:27:06] or reduced building height near neighboring homes. I believe that we can support affordable housing

[2:27:11] while also respecting the residents who already live next to these projects. Those goals don't have

[2:27:16] to be in conflict. Thank you for your time. Consideration.

[2:27:20] Thank you. Our next speaker is Robert, followed by Reverend Lewis Garcia, followed by

[2:27:30] Joelle or Dialis.

[2:27:48] Remember you guys approved affordable housing with zero parking spots and that same unit was originally

[2:27:56] perspective to have, I believe it was 24. I was like 60 units.

[2:28:07] So, habitually you guys approved like 60 units with only 20 parking spots. You guys are ridiculous.

[2:28:15] You guys know people need to park at their houses. What is the chance that this affordable housing

[2:28:25] just so happens gets rid of all the parking spots and then pushes them all all out onto the

[2:28:31] street into the neighborhood. What's the chance? Pretty, pretty likely at your guy's record.

[2:28:39] I mean, if you're going to approve a project and not require parking, why is there a bunch of parking

[2:28:47] at the transit centers? So, you guys literally put a bunch of parking where there is no house

[2:28:58] for people to drop their cars off and get on transit center. But when you talk about their house,

[2:29:02] you don't require there to be a sort of amount of parking. I mean, it's just logically, it doesn't make

[2:29:07] any sense. I do I think that if memory serves me correct, my friends used to play softball there

[2:29:19] back in the day at that at that field, if my memory serves me correct. The purpose isn't to tell people

[2:29:31] what to do either, but at the same time if you're going to let someone in a single R1 designated zone,

[2:29:37] used to be probably changed now or changed the rules one, two. To build three story buildings that

[2:29:46] look like he's saying into his house and then they take away all the parking spots and they just build

[2:29:53] more housing. I mean, need to.

[2:30:00] Staff is also someone I look to when I say these things. How do you approve a project that doesn't have any parking spots?

[2:30:10] You call it affordable, because you want people to be broken, not have a car.

[2:30:16] It's a self-made tail. You're like destined to have people with no cars, because there's no, no, they'll still have cars, so just park it in the whole neighborhood.

[2:30:28] You know, I encourage any public funding, just like the transit stations, have a court according to a ratio of parking.

[2:30:38] I don't know why this is such a controversial thing.

[2:30:41] Anyway, thank you.

[2:30:43] Our next speaker is Reverend Luis Garcia followed by Joel or the others.

[2:30:53] Buena's notches, the members of the council.

[2:30:57] I'm Reverend Luis Garcia. I am the district superintendent of the South District of the California Pacific Conference of the United Methodist Church.

[2:31:09] I'm a resident of Cholavista.

[2:31:14] We're out of here.

[2:31:16] We're working on some provides in 66 churches and three minister centers in the district or district is and the Ego County in Peria Valley parts of Riverside and Orange County.

[2:31:30] About 15-1-5,000 members in our churches.

[2:31:37] I'm speaking in favor of the project as I have been witness an active participant of a similar house in development in the area of Nester in San Diego, Nester UNC.

[2:31:47] I was the pastor there for eight years. I was the pastor at Cholavista first.

[2:31:52] I was the pastor at Cholavista.

[2:31:56] That development in Nester, not only changed the landscape of a big area in the corner of Coronado and Holister, but is providing affordable housing for 67 families in actually a smaller lot.

[2:32:14] In my district, we are starting a construction, similar construction, similar projects in partnership with Waceland, in Perial Beach.

[2:32:23] Also in the city of El Cajão, we are starting another housing project.

[2:32:28] In the California Pacific Conference, that goes all the way to San Luis Obispo.

[2:32:35] Ponce Springs, we have also a project with Waceland over there.

[2:32:39] We are developing other projects with many different partners as before, open that avenue.

[2:32:46] But why are we doing this?

[2:32:49] In part is because as expression of our faith, the United Methodist Church has the mission to end spiritual and physical hunger.

[2:33:00] We believe that all people deserve a chance for a better life and a house that is secure and affordable.

[2:33:08] We will help a lot to make this possible.

[2:33:11] I echo the words of Council Member Insulsa.

[2:33:16] A affordable housing is about leveling the field, so many more people can have similar opportunities.

[2:33:26] Again, as a resident of Chola Vista for 23 years, I know this project will bring not only improve the lives of many people, but also increase the social capital of the community.

[2:33:41] Thank you for your attention. Thank you for your support.

[2:33:44] Benicio Niz.

[2:33:46] The final speaker on this item is Joelle Hortialis.

[2:33:58] Well, I'm a little mayor and city council. My name is Joelle, and I'm a clerical member of the United Methodist Church.

[2:34:05] I'm appointed by my bishop, Dori Escobo de Frank, and my superintendent Luis Garcia at Parjillo M.C.

[2:34:14] With me, it's a Mrs. Sharon Reimundo. I'm Mrs. Penny Warren.

[2:34:20] I'm Mrs. Guelbo de Mano, who are members and leaders of Parjillo M.C.

[2:34:25] By the way, Sharon is celebrating her birthday today in this meeting.

[2:34:32] Anyway, that's the size of point.

[2:34:35] I'm speaking on behalf of the congregation that I now appointed.

[2:34:39] I want to speak in favor of resolution 8.2.

[2:34:43] In a church council November 2024, the church members of the part of Parjillo bought it in favor to serve Cholavista community

[2:34:54] with a piece of the land that the good Lord gave us in stewardship more than 60 years ago.

[2:35:02] That is why the church and myself are in favor to be an affordable housing in the church plot.

[2:35:09] Finally, last May 21st members of my church and also with clean staff,

[2:35:15] we knock doors and our neighbors to hear their comments about or decision.

[2:35:21] I'm pleased to inform the people who open the door and talk to me and the teams like it idea to have an affordable housing project in the city

[2:35:34] and some added just a concern.

[2:35:37] We need enough parking in the affordable housing project.

[2:35:42] Thank you.

[2:35:47] We have no additional speakers.

[2:35:50] Thank you very much.

[2:35:51] I'm going to go ahead and start myself.

[2:35:56] The city of Cholavista has been a leader in affordable housing.

[2:36:01] There's no doubt about it. We're 52 square miles.

[2:36:05] We've actually approved a affordable project earlier today in a master plan community.

[2:36:12] But in that master plan community, it was planned originally to be there.

[2:36:18] I have to say I have personally been to the United Methodist Church for services.

[2:36:24] I think they're a great church and they definitely have a warm heart.

[2:36:29] I also know that Waceland does a great, great job at being able to manage affordable housing.

[2:36:37] But what I'm concerned about is planning.

[2:36:42] When we do these master plan communities, we understand that you're going to have a high density in certain areas,

[2:36:50] and you're going to have lower density and other areas.

[2:36:55] I grew up not too far from that area.

[2:36:59] I actually remember having a couple of practice times in the baseball field.

[2:37:07] And it is an incredibly beautiful, well-planned single-family neighborhood.

[2:37:14] And when you look at what's happening, unfortunately at Sacramento,

[2:37:20] they're giving away the store and not allowing the city really to analyze and plan these affordable housing projects.

[2:37:32] And so when I look at this, I see single-family housing units.

[2:37:38] And if that SB4 had never been planned, you'd never have suddenly 64 unit apartments that are three stories high in a single-family neighborhood.

[2:37:50] That's called poor planning.

[2:37:53] And it's going to have negative effects not only to its neighbors that are right next to it, but in the entire community.

[2:38:03] So I will not be able to support this tonight.

[2:38:09] It is too high of density for the single neighborhood.

[2:38:15] And we want to keep the protect and protect single-family neighborhoods and the charm and the reason why people bought and people live there.

[2:38:24] Thank you.

[2:38:25] I'm going to recognize the member from District 2.

[2:38:41] Colleagues, this is not my district.

[2:38:44] And so for many reasons, I will defer, but I do want to make a couple of public comments related to developing this property.

[2:38:53] This property faces e-snaples.

[2:38:56] It does not, it is not a fake, it's not facing the single-family neighborhood.

[2:39:02] And so I think that the question before us today is associated with alone.

[2:39:11] A loan of $4 million, the project has a long runway to think about and get developed.

[2:39:21] And to have this council instructs to the extent that it can protect the property owners in Mariposa.

[2:39:33] I think what happened with the baseball field should have never have happened.

[2:39:39] And I can't remedy that.

[2:39:43] I am, however, interested in affordable housing right here on 3rd Avenue.

[2:39:49] In what some people describe as the core of the community, we have allowed two senior apartment buildings to be built.

[2:40:00] And as Robert, where's Robert?

[2:40:04] As Robert mentioned, a third facility which are right on the corner.

[2:40:10] And I could have a long discussion about how we need to have a mix of housing individuals or that have higher economic means that third Avenue could be more productive.

[2:40:24] But that isn't the question that has been presented to me when those projects have come up.

[2:40:32] And then it is very convenient for us in some instances to say, well Sacramento just screwed up again.

[2:40:40] But Sacramento is trying to listen to how we solve housing issues, how we solve affordability problems, how we tend to seniors, how we tend to families with low income.

[2:40:56] I'm hoping that we can separate the conversation about how to develop this property and the finance scene, which is the question that is before us today.

[2:41:10] The only thing that would happen with our financing is that up to that amount that was presented could be used to make this project work.

[2:41:18] And the second opportunity will be to develop this project within state law.

[2:41:24] All of us follow a state law. That's how these things work.

[2:41:32] There is a 75 or 76 unit complex that by right.

[2:41:39] The property owner is able to build on the corner of third a knee in a much smaller lot with no parking.

[2:41:48] And by right under state law, they're allowed to build that. This council had no role.

[2:41:54] I'm hoping we can build a collaborative relationship with the weightline and with the church to see if we can have a better project.

[2:42:05] But that's not the question before us today. The only question before us is the financing.

[2:42:10] The specific financing that could be a piece of the financing should the project move forward and become viable with the rest of the financing.

[2:42:20] So I'm going to leave it there.

[2:42:25] I do hope to hear from the councilman who represents this area district four.

[2:42:31] I will defer, but I'm hoping that we can work with staff to find a way to support the development of this housing.

[2:42:40] Who knows, creative minds could probably think about how to do this. Maybe we can flop where the church is and where the housing goes.

[2:42:49] I don't know. What I do know is it's wonderful to think that we could bring 65 additional units for families to live in the area.

[2:42:59] So with that, I'm in general supportive of the financing and absolutely want to be considerate of the existing family members who live in the vicinity.

[2:43:12] I don't want them harmed, but and to specifically respect, respond to Robert.

[2:43:22] Murray Post Avenue is not a street where people would park because there is no access to it. It faces e-snaples.

[2:43:30] And so I just, and it has parking in the project.

[2:43:39] All right. I, that's enough from me. Again, the question before us today is just on the financing, not the particulars of the project.

[2:43:48] And I would be happy to make a second referral to see if the city manager and our development team and our engineering folks could put together a support for this project to coexist.

[2:44:02] Meaningfully with this community if it was possible to move forward. Thank you.

[2:44:08] I will now recognize the member from district three.

[2:44:15] I do believe that any elected member of the city council represents the interest of every corner of the entire city.

[2:44:22] So I'm okay. I'm okay if any of my colleagues ever weigh in on any issues in my district because I was certainly weighing in issues in their district.

[2:44:30] If it affects the entire city or residents in any part of the district.

[2:44:35] And I'm also very supportive of Senate bill four because we do need that affordable housing and we do need fair wage contracts with labor unions,

[2:44:44] especially those working class that live in Chilivissa that build most of the county.

[2:44:49] I do have concerns. I was moved by Mr. Osteens.

[2:44:54] Mr. Osteens.

[2:44:56] Mr. Osteens.

[2:44:58] Mr. Osteens.

[2:45:00] And you're trying to go to bed at 9.30 p.m. in high beams are hitting right through your master bedroom and parking and all the amenities and all the bells and whistles that go into development.

[2:45:18] I say, no, grass is put to them, they see on this and they also support you. I understand where you guys are coming from, because I'm very supportive of affordable housing.

[2:45:25] But I really feel collectively as a council and all the neighbors here, we can find a very, as Mr. articulated.

[2:45:33] We're okay with this happening, but we need to make some tweaks, so it adjust and it fits in with this community.

[2:45:40] Whether the neighbors behind, they're dealing with trained issues or the neighbors on East Naples that might be dealing with setback issues or the line of sight or the height lines.

[2:45:50] We need to consider those things.

[2:45:53] So I'm really for the funding, of course, and this is what I think Councillor Patello, I'm gathering from him.

[2:45:59] Before the funding for this to happen, but I'm not ready to take a vote.

[2:46:04] I want to go out there with my staff with the families of East Naples and the coldestacks behind. I want to understand more before I take a vote.

[2:46:14] And I'm not sure Madam City Manager, Mr. City's turning so can clarify for me.

[2:46:20] If I ask for a continuation, would that give us the ability, another month or two, to be able to go there with staff and meet with the neighbors to get a better understanding.

[2:46:31] And with the design engineering of tweaks that we can hear from the neighbors and the residents to understand their needs and their concerns.

[2:46:41] To ask for a continuation, or how would I manifest that because I am not ready to take a vote.

[2:46:47] I am in favor of the affordable housing.

[2:46:49] I am in favor of the money coming in coming in, but I think we need a little more communication with the neighbors to make sure we do this correctly.

[2:46:56] So it's aesthetically correct for the whole neighborhood.

[2:46:59] Mr. City Manager is waiting in the chime in on this.

[2:47:02] Thank you, Mr. City Attorney.

[2:47:04] So the one thing that I would just want to make sure that the council is aware of is that there is a requirement for us to commit the $3 million by June 30 of this year.

[2:47:13] Otherwise we potentially forfeit those funds back to the state.

[2:47:16] So that's the timeline that we're on.

[2:47:19] So if is a way to make a motion to accept those funds.

[2:47:24] But at the same time not to prove its plans.

[2:47:28] It's a commitment that's requirement.

[2:47:30] It's the commitment of the funding not accepting the funding.

[2:47:32] We need to commit them to a project.

[2:47:36] And committing that money to the project means the project as is with no changes.

[2:47:42] No, this is a preliminary proposal from Wakland.

[2:47:45] They fully intend to flush this out further and be good neighbors.

[2:47:50] That's why they went out early because that was not necessarily a requirement for this funding for them to go out into the community.

[2:47:57] But they want to be good neighbors.

[2:47:59] They want to work with the community.

[2:48:01] And so that's why they went out last week.

[2:48:03] That's a strategy that Wakland now deploy is going door to door that way.

[2:48:08] That's not something that you would typically see in community outreach.

[2:48:12] You would see a notice in a notice for a meeting.

[2:48:15] I mean I think that's a reflection of why you see so many people here today from the community because of that.

[2:48:20] Door to door outreach that that Wakland has done.

[2:48:23] So this preliminary commitment is is very important for the funding as Tiffany has indicated.

[2:48:29] We are at risk of losing those funds if we don't commit them legally in a binding agreement before June 30th.

[2:48:36] So that means execution of loan documents before June 30th.

[2:48:42] What I just heard is if we don't accept the money the project is not going to go as is.

[2:48:50] Those changes that the neighbors are concerned with.

[2:48:53] We'll not be changed if we don't accept the money tonight.

[2:48:56] No, the acceptance of the money is just committing towards the project.

[2:49:01] The project will have time before it's submitted for for building permits.

[2:49:06] And as I indicated, Wakland is is committed to working with the community and moving forward with this.

[2:49:14] We do have representatives from from Wakland as well if you have direct questions and regards to that.

[2:49:19] So to be clear if I vote tonight to accept that money it does not mean that I'm approving the design as is it'll give me still the opportunity to vote yes or no.

[2:49:32] Three six months from now from revisiting what the design is.

[2:49:39] So do you want to it's not coming back right.

[2:49:42] We're going to have our outside council that's correct it would not come back but our outside council can give you a little more about SB 4 and the rights that the property has.

[2:49:51] Yeah, I apologize my clarity.

[2:49:54] My clarity is is it's very simple.

[2:49:58] If we accept that money tonight is it going as planned exactly as is or will any of the neighbors concerns be taken in consideration.

[2:50:07] That's that's my basic answer question.

[2:50:11] I think there's a way to get to where what to what you want to do but it's my understanding that with state density bonus law and SB 4.

[2:50:20] The project will be approved will be a buy right project as opposed to coming back to this body to future date for discretionary approval.

[2:50:30] But you know as previously mentioned the funds are it's user lose it money and there isn't another practical way to line up a different project to get those funds within this timeline.

[2:50:46] The you know the documents still have to be negotiated and you could give the city manager the discretion to you know as part of that you know so you enter into loan agreement.

[2:51:02] You know today that commits the $4 million but actual funding of those would be subject to city managers approval of the overall design of the project.

[2:51:18] The concerns of the community that have been raised here so I have New York concerns that you raised could be something that you know the city manager could.

[2:51:27] The city manager could say these have to be addressed before we actually provide.

[2:51:32] We actually disperse the funds as was not to be done before June 30.

[2:51:36] No no at this at this point you would just enter into that you know if assume you get the approval tonight or sometimes soon enter into the loan agreement and then you know.

[2:51:50] A year from now two years from now whenever they're ready to go forward the final design of the project or or actual disbursement of funds would be subject to city manager approval of the final design of the project.

[2:52:08] That makes sense.

[2:52:09] How would our Mr. City Attorney how would I articulate that emotion.

[2:52:14] Well I just wanted to point out that in the current resolution has drafted.

[2:52:20] It does authorize a city manager to negotiate an actual loan agreement and includes some conditions already built in.

[2:52:29] If if there was consensus from the council on specific conditions or things that you wanted to express tonight.

[2:52:35] That would be important for the city manager to include in those negotiations that that could that could be expressed tonight if there is consensus of majority of the council.

[2:52:46] Alternatively that the language that's already in the resolution gives the city manager the authority subject to.

[2:52:56] A minimum of five outlined requirements that are built into the resolution already.

[2:53:02] The council could conceivably expand upon those requirements or just express.

[2:53:09] By a majority consensus of things that would be interests or things that of interest to the council tonight for the city manager to focus on during those negotiations.

[2:53:19] I appreciate it on the yield back.

[2:53:22] I know my to my colleagues want to speak.

[2:53:24] My intent is to ask for consensus and emotion to give the ability for the city manager.

[2:53:33] To give the neighbors the opportunity to look at different design reconfigurations that are affecting and impacting the community.

[2:53:39] But I do want to listen to my colleagues unless one of the ones make a motion. I yield back. Thank you everyone.

[2:53:45] I will recognize the member from district four.

[2:53:51] I'll try to be quick. I have my concerns as well. I know this area well. It's got drainage issues and it was articulated also very clearly that there are concerns about privacy.

[2:54:02] I don't want you looking down at me when I'm hosting people in my backyard.

[2:54:06] I certainly don't want to look up and see you in a less than presentable.

[2:54:11] So I would hope that we could work together city, church and developer to address and mitigate those concerns.

[2:54:23] We have how many more meetings though before June 30th. I think it's at least two.

[2:54:30] Does it have to be one?

[2:54:33] And as far as those conditions that you had mentioned, we could ask staff to come back with conditions that address the concerns that you've heard here tonight.

[2:54:48] And there would be an opportunity for you to request approval of the ultimate loan agreement if.

[2:55:00] Because what we're doing right what what the current action as currently drafted authorizes city manager to negotiate and execute those documents.

[2:55:10] If there are items of interest to the council, I mean now would be an appropriate time to raise that as far as additional conditions you'd like to see built into that agreement.

[2:55:20] But as far as getting sort of another bite of the apple here, I mean obviously the council does is within the council's purview to continue this item to another meeting.

[2:55:31] Of course there is there are time restraints to this being that the agreement would need to be or being that the commitment would need to be finalized by the 30th.

[2:55:39] I believe there is a meeting schedule already on the books for one day in the month of June.

[2:55:45] Alternatively there's always the option that attempt to schedule a special meeting and sorry I misspoke there's two meetings currently scheduled for the month of June.

[2:55:55] And of course the council can always schedule a special meeting to discuss this item in the future.

[2:56:01] But again there are time restraints for the commitment of these funds.

[2:56:08] And of course as I already mentioned, if there are additional conditions that you'd want to see built into that ultimate loan agreement, those can be expressed by majority of the council.

[2:56:23] I just want to say I just want more time with it and if I'm going to be put to a vote tonight, it's probably less than favorable because I don't have any guarantees that the mitigations that I'm asking for.

[2:56:36] Are going to be met.

[2:56:40] And just in short if I may I mean the council does have the ability to condition this loan on items that are of interest to the council.

[2:56:49] It's just a matter of timing and how that's done.

[2:56:56] Senior manager.

[2:57:01] Again I want to apologize. I misspoke there are two meetings in June.

[2:57:05] I think that we've heard a lot of good feedback from the community tonight in terms of the items that they want to see address.

[2:57:12] The structure that's been outlined seems very workable to me in terms of conditioning that future disbursement of proceeds on them incorporating and addressing those concerns.

[2:57:21] But if you want to see something more specific than that we could look to bring something back.

[2:57:27] It would probably for it to be meaningful.

[2:57:32] I think I think we could get to that second meeting in June if you want to see specific language of what those conditions would look like beyond I think we've heard drainage privacy and parking tonight as key areas of concern.

[2:57:47] Yes yes and if it's not written in there now I I don't feel I have a guarantee that that's going to happen.

[2:57:54] I mean I trust you see.

[2:57:56] Yeah I think motion is directing us to incorporated into into the agreement.

[2:58:02] Yes.

[2:58:03] That is the motion and bring it back.

[2:58:06] Second.

[2:58:10] Was that a motion you made?

[2:58:12] So the motion is to bring back the item or can you clarify this for me?

[2:58:17] My understanding is that council member Fernandez made a motion.

[2:58:23] But we still have two speakers from the dice here.

[2:58:27] So I'd like to hear them and then we can revisit the motion.

[2:58:31] I would like to recognize the member from district one.

[2:58:37] When we're talking about these funds I kind of remember when.

[2:58:42] The district one the former supervisor.

[2:58:45] I think there was a state funding to build housing in spring valley.

[2:58:52] And because they couldn't make a decision and they could move forward they lost this funding so I went.

[2:58:59] The state captured the funds.

[2:59:02] I'm also supportive as before but I do have and I hear you.

[2:59:07] I live right next to a park where a softball and little league and you know I see those lights and I hear you.

[2:59:14] You know I have the questions about traffic parking overflow and school pickup drop offs impacts that mitigated.

[2:59:22] Given projects proximity to Greg Rogers Elementary School completely understand.

[2:59:31] If we mentioned and Stacy mentioned flu eloquently.

[2:59:35] The church is in good faith right.

[2:59:38] Can you clarify that again, Stacy, that they don't have to but they want to.

[2:59:43] I love when you said that right.

[2:59:46] Yeah Wagland Wagland and the church want to be good neighbors.

[2:59:49] Again this project under SB 4 could be moved forward by right.

[2:59:54] The only reason that we're here for any discussion around this project is because of the funding.

[3:00:00] Out this funding, the project could still move forward and submit for building permit by right, ministerially, without any council action.

[3:00:11] But in good faith, the church and Wakland have made this door to door effort to try to start that partnership with the community to be part of the community on a go forward.

[3:00:24] And I appreciate that so much and I appreciate everyone voicing their concerns and I know we're going to find a middle ground working with the city.

[3:00:32] This is what it's about, right? Working with the community hearing them out and finding middle grounds and holistic solutions for everyone.

[3:00:40] So I'm going to support my council colleague on the motion he made.

[3:00:44] But I do appreciate your good faith and I appreciate it and I believe you me, I understand those lights and all that I completely understand.

[3:00:54] So moving forward, I'm looking forward to bringing this back as soon as possible. I don't want to do anything that affects any kind of funding and a kind of state funding that we can invest in our beautiful city.

[3:01:08] So, but that I.

[3:01:13] I won't go ahead and recognize the member from district two.

[3:01:18] So the only thing I wanted to point out is that because the project can be built by right, this might be an opportunity as you guys are all discussing the condition.

[3:01:32] And maybe I'll work in MOU between the city, Wakefield and the church to agree to, you know, have some community benefits associated with this.

[3:01:46] And so I too am supportive of deferring to a meeting in June to consider the funding because that's really, again, the only question before us.

[3:01:56] But because it is a design by right project unless we have a working MOU with the parties involved interested in being a community partner, it's difficult.

[3:02:11] It's difficult to make any kind of guarantee.

[3:02:14] So council has made comments about conditionalities.

[3:02:18] The city attorney has also indicated the possibility of conditionalities.

[3:02:24] So I will support on council action to delay for a few weeks the conversation.

[3:02:31] And hopefully everyone involved can come together with some sort of working agreement that this project already benefits the community in many ways.

[3:02:42] But maybe a specific community benefits agreement with the neighbors that addresses life quality of life issues that has been presented.

[3:02:52] So I'll stop talking. Thank you.

[3:02:55] And if I can just chime in a little bit.

[3:02:58] So the action under consideration tonight is to authorize the city manager to negotiate and execute a loan agreement.

[3:03:08] Which would commit the funds to a particular project.

[3:03:13] Based on the feedback tonight and it's certainly within your purview to continue this item to another meeting.

[3:03:19] If you need additional time for consideration alternatively.

[3:03:23] It seems like there may be enough consensus here tonight to just include those conditions as in the approval as currently presented to you.

[3:03:36] That would allow the city manager to move forward and negotiate and execute a loan agreement condition on incorporating council's concerns of parking drainage privacy.

[3:03:47] And that would be a condition of completing that loan agreement.

[3:03:51] So that can actually be done tonight.

[3:03:53] If you feel comfortable if the council feels comfortable doing so alternatively as discussed.

[3:03:58] That could wait for another day as well.

[3:04:01] I just wanted to make sure that you all understood that it is an option to include certain conditions into the city manager's authority tonight.

[3:04:12] I will go ahead and recognize the member from District 4.

[3:04:16] You had a motion.

[3:04:20] So you outlined my motion perfectly, right?

[3:04:23] What do you want me to do it again?

[3:04:25] Well, I don't know if I outlined it perfectly.

[3:04:27] But I want to get it down, but you do it away.

[3:04:30] I think what I have here is to is a motion to incorporate within the conditions for a negotiation.

[3:04:41] Or negotiating and executing a loan agreement.

[3:04:44] The city council's concerns regarding parking drainage and privacy.

[3:04:51] And so that's what that's what I have noted.

[3:04:54] If there are additional concerns that you would like expressed as sort of a condition on the city manager's authority to finalize a loan agreement.

[3:05:04] You could add to that list, but right now we have council concerns regarding parking drainage and privacy.

[3:05:10] I believe the mayor also brought up a concern about density.

[3:05:16] But it's not a deal.

[3:05:19] All right.

[3:05:20] Leave it as is.

[3:05:21] That is my motion.

[3:05:22] I want to bring it back.

[3:05:24] Second.

[3:05:26] Okay.

[3:05:27] You just so I'm clear that the motion is to continue this item for a meeting in June.

[3:05:36] At which point we would present a similar resolution for your approval.

[3:05:43] But incorporate the council's concerns regarding parking drainage and privacy.

[3:05:47] Should we clear?

[3:05:48] Yes.

[3:05:49] Okay.

[3:05:50] Because alternatively, you can just approve that tonight.

[3:05:52] And include those.

[3:05:53] I already heard that, but I want to bring it back.

[3:05:55] I just want to make sure we clear on that.

[3:06:00] All right.

[3:06:01] I just want to make I know they're going to go ahead and potentially move this to another night.

[3:06:11] But the reality is is that Sacramento has taken local rights away from our community.

[3:06:20] Normally if you have a project you would develop or would submit the project.

[3:06:26] It would go through our planning department.

[3:06:28] It would go through the planning commission potentially even come to the city council.

[3:06:35] And that is all.

[3:06:38] Doesn't happen anymore with these types of projects.

[3:06:41] There is no more zero no more discretionary approval.

[3:06:46] They have development by right.

[3:06:49] And I'm very concerned even if we go ahead and meet.

[3:06:53] And we have our concerns, which I think are very, very valid concerns.

[3:06:57] And we could have people say, oh yeah, we'll look into that.

[3:07:01] But I think there are too many issues here.

[3:07:04] And again, they have the development by right.

[3:07:07] And they don't necessarily have to listen to us because we have no discretionary authority.

[3:07:12] So I'm not going to support this.

[3:07:15] But again, I just we need to understand the reality.

[3:07:20] Okay. Madam Clerk, we have a motion in a second.

[3:07:26] All right, this is item 8.2 and the motion is to continue to the June to a June meeting to include council consideration regarding parking drainage privacy and density.

[3:07:42] Not the density.

[3:07:44] No, not the density.

[3:08:02] Continuing an asian of this item has passed for to one with the mayor voting no.

[3:08:12] We'll now move on to public comments in Madam Clerk.

[3:08:16] I know we had more than seven public comments.

[3:08:19] I wanted to see if we still have some more public speakers for the public comments.

[3:08:25] We do.

[3:08:26] We had four additional speakers.

[3:08:28] I'll go ahead and call all four names to ensure that they're here.

[3:08:32] Margarita Garcia and Greg Martinez.

[3:08:37] So no Joanna Sylvia.

[3:08:49] Margarita.

[3:08:52] Oh, Joanna. Come on up.

[3:09:01] Hello, my name is Joanna Morita. I'm a resident at East Lake.

[3:09:05] I live by Ridgewater behind the 125 South.

[3:09:09] I am here to talk about the project that is being done, specifically in the canyon that we have.

[3:09:15] It is already started.

[3:09:17] Unfortunately, my biggest fear is the ecosystem around there.

[3:09:21] As a biology major, I am worried about the species around there.

[3:09:25] Specifically, the coyotes, the rabbits and snakes.

[3:09:28] I'm scared that they're going to lose their habitats.

[3:09:31] And I do not know what precautions or what procedures you guys have for these species.

[3:09:38] Because technically, you guys are going to build storage facilities.

[3:09:42] And I wanted to make safety or secure that these species are able to have their own homes.

[3:09:48] Another issue I have is the environment.

[3:09:51] As plants have already been removed, they're going to release carbon dioxide, which is the leading greenhouse gas.

[3:09:57] That can lead to global climate change.

[3:10:00] My biggest fear is the impact that's going to have around the community, especially more heat waves.

[3:10:05] A lot of us do not have air conditioning because it is expensive to live there.

[3:10:09] And as well, air conditioning is expensive for us to afford.

[3:10:13] So heat waves can cause a lot of like heat strokes throughout the people or dehydration.

[3:10:17] And I'm scared a lot of people, especially the elderly or the young kids who are playing outside are going to be dehydrated or get heat strokes.

[3:10:25] Another issue I would think about is instead of storage facilities, maybe make it into a public park.

[3:10:31] I recently went to the Sabita park where they have a public community garden.

[3:10:36] And the park is very beautiful.

[3:10:38] And we could use that instead of a storage since we already have two storage in East Lake.

[3:10:44] I understand that if the construction is already been done, but I'm hoping you guys can help us out to stop this.

[3:10:51] Or at least give us some resources to stop this as well.

[3:10:54] Either petitioning or protesting can be helpful.

[3:10:57] But I, as you're one of your citizens here, want to see your guys as help.

[3:11:02] Because we did vote you guys in.

[3:11:04] And as John McCain, you do live around us.

[3:11:08] And you do participate in the church that I also go to.

[3:11:11] I'm hoping you can listen to our voice.

[3:11:13] I already call the lot of national organizations such as ecosystems,

[3:11:17] or even call that a lot of social media people who live around the area to also raise awareness.

[3:11:22] Because none of us were given notice beforehand.

[3:11:25] And another issue I have is the noise pollution.

[3:11:28] I'm scared that it's going to cause.

[3:11:30] Deafness to the community as well to young children and the elderly as well.

[3:11:35] Thank you for your time.

[3:11:36] And I hope you got the great day.

[3:11:37] Thank you.

[3:11:38] I don't see Sylvia ircojen.

[3:11:45] The next speaker would be Margarita Garcia.

[3:11:50] Follow by Greg Martinez.

[3:12:00] Good evening.

[3:12:03] Go ahead and pull the microphone down.

[3:12:05] Yeah, I'm short.

[3:12:07] Good evening.

[3:12:08] Council members in Mayor McCain.

[3:12:11] My name is Margarita Garcia.

[3:12:13] And I'm actually a truly abusive native.

[3:12:16] I was born back in the days in Big Hospital over here on 4th and 8th.

[3:12:21] I'm also a proud bear in class of 92.

[3:12:26] And I am a resident of District 1 Miss Chavez.

[3:12:31] I live on Ridgewater Drive.

[3:12:36] And we face that long, that land and lot that my daughter Joanna.

[3:12:43] I'm very proud of you.

[3:12:44] I was talking about.

[3:12:47] We've been in that property for over 20 years.

[3:12:50] Our girls went to East Lake Elementary, middle in high school.

[3:12:54] Now they're at San Diego State, you know, goastics.

[3:12:57] And we love our community.

[3:13:00] And, you know, being a graduate from Bonita in Southwestern College.

[3:13:05] I remember that there was nothing past LaMedia, but the chicken wrenches.

[3:13:10] You know, we would ditch from school and just go high with our friends.

[3:13:14] Their parents work at the wrenches.

[3:13:16] And now, you know, our community is booming.

[3:13:20] It's exploding.

[3:13:21] And we can continue with that progress.

[3:13:26] And that grows in areas that are permissible for such.

[3:13:30] But the project, it's a storage facility.

[3:13:35] And within our blog radius, there's two already built storage facilities.

[3:13:42] That area specifically is right between Ridgewater Drive and the village walk.

[3:13:49] There's a really a trader joe in a TJ Maxx and the traffic is horrendous.

[3:13:54] And now you want to build a storage facility.

[3:13:58] You know, there's an amazing wildlife in that canyon.

[3:14:03] The vegetation, the trees.

[3:14:05] We have a big large community of coyotes.

[3:14:08] That, you know, actually the neighbors.

[3:14:10] We've grown fun of them.

[3:14:13] And it was so sad because this construction is moving fast.

[3:14:17] And we went from seeing the trees being pulled.

[3:14:21] The vegetation being pulled from, you know, our coyotes last night.

[3:14:25] We didn't hear the parents.

[3:14:27] You know, whenever we were here, the ambulance passed, we would hear massive, you know,

[3:14:32] Halarine.

[3:14:33] Last night, it was so sad for us to just hear the babies.

[3:14:36] Meaning that the parents have already left because they feel threatened by the construction.

[3:14:41] Right now, you see that lot.

[3:14:43] And it's empty.

[3:14:44] There's no vegetation.

[3:14:45] There's no trees.

[3:14:47] I know you guys have the power.

[3:14:49] Please reconsider moving this project to another location

[3:14:52] that it doesn't impact our ecosystem.

[3:14:55] You know, there's amazing mocking birds.

[3:14:57] There's funnies.

[3:14:58] There's coyotes.

[3:14:59] You know, we need...

[3:15:00] This. And I really want to thank you for your time, your consideration. Please find it within your hearts to to relocate this project. Thank you so much for your service. Thank you so much for this time. You know, I don't know how you guys do it. Thank you.

[3:15:15] Thank you.

[3:15:17] Our final speaker is Greg Martinez.

[3:15:30] Hello Mayor, city council members and everybody on the dias. My name is Greg Martinez and I'm a long time 20 plus year resident of the Rolling Hills Ranch District of Chula Vista.

[3:15:40] And I just wanted to speak today regarding a story that broke last week in the interview about a former police chief Roxana Kennedy is now suing the city council.

[3:15:51] Um, these allegations are very serious. She's suing for defamation, harassment, and agency.

[3:15:56] I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't interrupt. This item is actually agenda is under closed session. So you can comment on that lawsuit if you'd like at that time.

[3:16:08] But it would be inappropriate for you to comment at this time. So we're almost to that item if you can maybe hang out for a little bit longer if that's okay. I apologize, but we do have it agenda is on on the agenda for.

[3:16:20] I don't know what is it.

[3:16:23] It's a 15.1 almost there almost there. Okay, thank you.

[3:16:32] We have no additional speakers. Yes, I have a request to speak from council member from district one.

[3:16:41] I do see the chaotic, I see the wildlife and I'm going to meet with Roy Roy's in the back. If you can meet with I would love to meet with you as well to get more involved in.

[3:16:55] I know this went through the planning commission, but I would learn more and if you want to meet and I'm going to give you my email and my phone number so we can meet up there.

[3:17:05] Thank you for being an activist in our district.

[3:17:11] Thank you very much. We'll move to the city manager's report.

[3:17:16] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I apologize. I did have an item agenda is to get some clarification on direction, but I am not ready to have that conversation tonight. I'm going to pull that item and I have no other report. Thank you.

[3:17:28] Thank you very much. I'm going to go to the Mayor's report.

[3:17:32] First, I want to thank everybody for being here tonight. I was very fortunate in honor to attend the San Diego County Law Enforcement Memorial.

[3:17:44] To honor the brave, feminine women who gave the ultimate sacrifice to service to our communities.

[3:17:53] We celebrated the grand opening of via at Axia and welcome another exciting investment, bringing new housing opportunities and energy to Chulvesta.

[3:18:06] It's great location and we're expecting to have a lot of great families be able to live there.

[3:18:14] Join the community members at the National Day of Prayer to reflect on faith, unity and service to others.

[3:18:22] We attended the recognize the outstanding service and dedication of our own Chulvesta police department awards and recognition ceremony.

[3:18:34] And there's a reason why we have the best police department in the state of California and that's because of these great officers.

[3:18:43] And it was great to be able to have recognition and awards be given to so many of our officers that go above and beyond serving our community.

[3:18:54] I was very honored. We hosted a senior fraud awareness session alongside with a deputy district attorney.

[3:19:03] We focused on protecting seniors from scams and financial exploitation.

[3:19:09] Again, the big thing is when in doubt talked to somebody else.

[3:19:15] The scammers are becoming more and more sophisticated and there to be able to try to take money, especially from older adults.

[3:19:26] So we need to be able to protect as many people as possible.

[3:19:30] And if you have somebody who's questioning something, make them hang up and then talk to them because these scammers are incredibly sophisticated.

[3:19:41] I was honored to attend the Filipino American Military Officers Association anniversary.

[3:19:47] I appreciate so many of them who've given a life of service and commitment to be patriotic Americans and they are just incredibly great people.

[3:19:59] I attended the AI recognition in honor of Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month.

[3:20:07] And we had celebrated them. There was a lot of great dancing and cultural events, but I just wanted to thank so many people who attended.

[3:20:17] It was so incredibly fun.

[3:20:20] I was a speaker at the anti-human trafficking forum.

[3:20:27] We learned more about the warning signs of human trafficking and the importance of protecting vulnerable individuals.

[3:20:36] And again, if you are a parent, make sure that you are helping monitor your children's social media.

[3:20:44] There are many too many cases where parents think, okay, they're just on the social media.

[3:20:52] But many times when they find out specifically that they are in danger.

[3:20:58] It unfortunately many times is too late.

[3:21:01] So make sure that you are protecting your children on social media.

[3:21:06] I joined the Sharp Mary Birch team.

[3:21:10] We brought a store down to Chulavista for the unveiling celebration and recognition to their commitment for labor and delivery at the Chulavista hospital.

[3:21:25] They are committed to bringing additional services and incredibly great opportunities for our residents.

[3:21:36] And as you know, it's called the Sharp Experience and every time I've been to Sharp, they always have a great experience.

[3:21:44] We celebrated the expansion of the Wishwell and their important work providing mental health and wellness services to our community.

[3:21:53] Then later that night, I attended the Olympian High School's Filipino Cultural Night and celebrated the rich traditions and culture and pride of the Filipino community.

[3:22:04] I joined the residents and veterans at the Founder State Celebration at the Chulavista Veterans Home to honor those who have served our country.

[3:22:14] Many of those veterans are just incredible and if you ever get a chance, go to the veterans home, sit down and talk to them.

[3:22:23] They have some amazing stories about how they fought, how they served our country and how they were a part of the American fabric.

[3:22:34] I supported Mama's Kitchen at their Mama's Kitchen Day event and recognized their compassionate work, serving individuals and families in need.

[3:22:45] Many of the individuals that they serve have critical illnesses and we want to be able to continue to support them to be able to help not only the individuals in the with the critical illnesses, but also to be able to support the families.

[3:23:02] That are their providing services and helping their individuals get better.

[3:23:10] I attended the Benita Museum Big Reveal.

[3:23:14] If anybody drives down to the Benita Museum, go at night time.

[3:23:19] They had a big reveal of the colors and the architecture and the art of the building.

[3:23:27] It was just an incredible opportunity.

[3:23:30] A renowned artist worldwide who is from Chulavista did the structure and did the lighting and it is just an incredibly beautiful, beautiful facility.

[3:23:45] It was always a great beautiful facility, but now in the evenings you can enjoy the lights as well.

[3:23:52] I gave a speech in the neurotech frontier summit and learned about the innovative advancements and shaping the future of healthcare and technology.

[3:24:02] And was there as the mayor trying to get some of those great companies to come down to our innovation district and hopefully locate here to create good high quality high paying high tech jobs.

[3:24:17] And earlier today we recognized the American history month and celebrated the history, culture and contributions of the Jewish American community.

[3:24:27] And just really appreciate everybody's time effort.

[3:24:32] And as we are our community, it is good to be able to come together, celebrate each other and make sure that we work with each other and support each other.

[3:24:44] So thank you. I'm now going to move on to the council member reports. I will start with the member from district one.

[3:24:54] First, I want to thank our first responders.

[3:24:58] I want to mention how deeply grateful we are to our police department or fire department for calling and acting as we should have said region.

[3:25:14] When we got the report I was happening with the recent shooting.

[3:25:21] We responded immediately united.

[3:25:25] It mattered the city didn't matter.

[3:25:27] We were we reacted and that's what we need to do.

[3:25:31] So I want to thank our police department for doing that.

[3:25:36] I just want to mention that there is no room for hate.

[3:25:40] There is no room for hate and division in our community.

[3:25:44] And I stand with the families that were affected with the recent shooting.

[3:25:50] I want to mention that I joined Chilavista PD and Chilavista police foundation and honoring our sworn staff,

[3:25:57] professional staff and community members who went above and beyond in service to others throughout the past year.

[3:26:05] It's a great honor to be there present how and see how the families cure them on and are just feeling and standing so proud.

[3:26:18] I also want to mention that I on Friday I was proud to join supervisor Palomagiri council member Ilo Rivera and community members who rely on transit to announce the extension of the youth opportunity past program.

[3:26:34] At the May 8th Sandag Board of Directors meeting we passed the Sandag budget which included more than 4 million to extend the youth opportunity past program for another three years.

[3:26:45] Ensuring young people never have to worry about whether they can afford a bus or trolley ride to get where they need to go.

[3:26:54] Costs should never be a barrier to keep a child from getting a dance practice.

[3:27:00] The library school programs or other opportunities that allow them to learn grow and thrive.

[3:27:07] We're not investing in us, we're not investing in the community, although we are, but we're investing in the future of a region.

[3:27:15] So more opportunities for them means a better future for us.

[3:27:19] I also want to mention that I had the honor to attend the last last Friday.

[3:27:25] I had the opportunity to attend the 20th yesterday, the last America, that's South Creek Elementary.

[3:27:31] A wonderful celebration of Latin American culture, futureing families, family activities and incredible live performances by students.

[3:27:39] It was great to join the community and celebrating the culture and diversity here in Chalvesta.

[3:27:45] It was also honored to present certificates of recognition to the amazing dual language immersion teachers who volunteer other time year after year to make this event possible.

[3:27:57] I also want to mention that I had the opportunity to attend the sharp chill of us the unveiling ceremony for their new center for women and newborns.

[3:28:07] This investment in our community ensures families can receive exceptional maternal and newborn care right here in the community they call home.

[3:28:17] Access to nearby maternity care reduces transportation burdens, financial stress and time away from work while helping ensuring continuity of care from pregnancy through postpartum recovery.

[3:28:31] I want the things sharp for continuing to invest in our community and the amazing technicians, nurses, doctors and support staff who work every day to keep our community healthy and safe.

[3:28:43] Thank you.

[3:28:47] I will recognize the member from District 2.

[3:28:53] Yes, I wanted to join both the mayor and Councilwoman Chavez is remarks related to building bridges in our community in the recent period.

[3:29:09] I've experienced hate as an individual for a variety of reasons apparently my family isn't up to standard to how other people see what a family should be.

[3:29:25] Can you imagine being judged after whether or not I have a family.

[3:29:31] But it's very common those of us who are single who don't have children apparently have to play a secondary role to those people who have children and have family in that way.

[3:29:47] I can assure you I have a family too I have an extended family and it's just it is a trotace that individuals find it offered to.

[3:30:00] And then things that happen, like what the tragedy this week, starts becoming, you know, an outcome of how people just characterize folks very easily and make claims and make statements.

[3:30:21] When I first joined this council, the day I was sworn in, I introduced myself as a disabled American, and in that instance, I described my mobility challenges that were caused by my size.

[3:30:40] And in the community, many people in this community are making light of my disability. They're using it in political ads.

[3:30:52] And I think it's unfortunate, and people are associating themselves with these things, just by being present and not saying anything.

[3:31:01] I find it apparent. I find it despicable that politics, electoral politics, have gone to the point where we're not discussing issues and concerns.

[3:31:16] But people are making light.

[3:31:30] Appreciate it.

[3:31:32] Making light of our life experience, making light of our health challenges, and I never thought in my 30 plus years of public service.

[3:31:55] Now that I'm healthier and more mobile, that I would have to be attacked because somebody is ambitious or is interested in reaching elected office.

[3:32:09] It's deplorable.

[3:32:12] Stop microgracing and macrogracing single people who are not married and who don't have children. You don't know their life experience.

[3:32:24] I pay a lot of taxes. I have a right to be in the public realm and to make decisions on public policy matters.

[3:32:38] I am second to no one.

[3:32:43] If anybody believes that my voice doesn't matter because their life experience is better than mine, we have the basis of a disagreement.

[3:32:56] Baldwin said that we can love each other even if we don't agree, but we will never agree. We will never love each other. If your argument is my destruction.

[3:33:12] I may have not quoted that exactly, but you get the gist.

[3:33:19] I find this weak and chill of us to be very difficult.

[3:33:27] Not for me. I'm fine.

[3:33:33] But I wonder why do I remain in public? Why is it worth it?

[3:33:45] Is a disagreement on a policy matter so much that I have to be minimized?

[3:33:54] That I have to be little.

[3:33:59] That a local restaurant in our community perpetuates and supports this kind of hate.

[3:34:10] I'm really disappointed.

[3:34:13] But I know.

[3:34:26] Sometimes anger manifests this tears frustration that we can't put something out.

[3:34:39] But I will not stoop to the level and the indignity of the attacks I'm facing.

[3:34:47] I will value an honor everyone's point of view.

[3:34:51] I want to agree with you but we can be in debate.

[3:35:04] I'm going to stop right there. Thank you.

[3:35:11] I will recognize the member from District 3.

[3:35:22] I apologize. I know you for 30 years.

[3:35:31] You're only a few years older than me. Maybe 2 or 3. You went to college together.

[3:35:38] I feel you're suffering and I feel you're pain. I'm disgusted.

[3:35:42] It's sometimes not good enough. Just being elected but having to endure falsehoods, false accusations, slander.

[3:35:54] I'm kind of the poster boy for Chilivista. I haven't had a J walking ticket in my entire life.

[3:36:02] But yet it probably means I'm doing something right.

[3:36:07] If people are contrary to my values are threatened by my assertiveness and my ability to do things right for the city, I was born in.

[3:36:19] And I'm probably doing things right. And I have thick skin. I grew up around this.

[3:36:26] But you can't exchange that for someone's heart and love and the dedication that Councilman Placiano has put it into his community.

[3:36:34] And it's shameful. A lot of things that Council members, I'm just, I'm talking just elected officials in general.

[3:36:41] When you have local people, businesses, friends, spouses, elected officials, participating in this garbage,

[3:36:52] all I can say is the truth is going to come out on a variety of issues.

[3:36:56] So I ask for patience for everyone in the gallery to wait for the truth of things you hear, things you read about.

[3:37:05] And a lot of us are very open to discuss these things with our neighbors and friends because we're elected to be transparent. We're elected to serve you.

[3:37:14] But there is no room for the type of garbage and political plays that this Council deals with a lot.

[3:37:20] So I apologize. I apologize on behalf of my colleague. Again, I've known for 30 years. And he's a man of integrity.

[3:37:30] And it hurts me to see in this way.

[3:37:33] I do want to make consensus amendment.

[3:37:37] The audit of the Husted Payments for events that I asked for.

[3:37:43] I asked for it from November 2022. Sorry. November 2020.

[3:37:49] No, no.

[3:37:51] What did I ask for? Was it 2022?

[3:37:56] As for November 20. I'm asking it. I'm asking if the Council to shave off those two years.

[3:38:01] I'm asking for November 22 for the audit to start.

[3:38:05] I think that's accurate.

[3:38:07] I think that's accurate. The previous Council referral asked for looking back to November of 2020.

[3:38:14] I think what is currently saying is shave two years.

[3:38:17] And only goal is far back as 2022.

[3:38:20] That's correct.

[3:38:21] I have consensus the Council.

[3:38:23] Thank you.

[3:38:24] Thank everybody.

[3:38:25] Mr. Stina, I want to talk to you when I will go ahead and recognize the member from District 4.

[3:38:31] I want to start by thanking Chilivist Police Department for their quick action.

[3:38:38] To address the violence that happened at the Islamic Center.

[3:38:42] And also, there were recently two deaths out at the Ota River Valley.

[3:38:48] And one of them was a CBPD's investigation to have.

[3:38:53] The other member was San Diego PD.

[3:38:54] And I also want to thank Chief Tempeek for being very, very committed to it with me on both of those issues.

[3:39:01] That kind of communication with Council members.

[3:39:04] It matters so that we don't hear those details first in the public or in the press that we're aware of what's going on immediately.

[3:39:14] So I want to thank Chief Peek for that.

[3:39:17] And of course, the quick action of Chilivist PD.

[3:39:22] I want to say thank you to Council Member Prisiotto for being vulnerable yet strong with us right now.

[3:39:27] I appreciate that kind of discussion from a Council member.

[3:39:32] We're not all business.

[3:39:33] We're real people.

[3:39:35] So thank you for that.

[3:39:37] I do have a referral for staff.

[3:39:41] Let me switch it up.

[3:39:43] So as to the VISTA continues to grow and attract investment.

[3:39:47] I think that we should look proactively at policies that promote workforce stability and economic continuity.

[3:39:55] A number of California municipalities have adopted worker retention and recall protections tied to redevelopment.

[3:40:02] Temporary closers and successor employer transitions.

[3:40:07] So I am requesting that staff work on a draft ordinance with these things in mind.

[3:40:13] I have four things to list here.

[3:40:15] So one review worker retention recall and successor employer ordinances adopted in other California municipalities.

[3:40:24] To analyze the city's legal authority in any potential state or federal preemption issues related to local worker retention policies.

[3:40:34] Three.

[3:40:35] I want to evaluate policy options related to specifically temporary business closers.

[3:40:42] Substantial renovations and tenant improvements.

[3:40:45] Re-development related workforce displacement and successor employer obligations following changes in operational control.

[3:40:54] Those four things.

[3:40:55] I can read them again if you need but just go back and watch the video.

[3:40:58] Lastly, number four.

[3:40:59] Please return to council with policy recommendations and a draft order and draft ordinance language.

[3:41:04] That balances workforce protections with operational flexibility for businesses.

[3:41:09] I have that written down.

[3:41:13] So I'm asking for.

[3:41:15] What's that?

[3:41:16] I have a question.

[3:41:17] Yes.

[3:41:18] Join your consensus.

[3:41:20] Is there a way you can add?

[3:41:22] Thank you.

[3:41:24] If you add that council also consult with like South County EDC or business interests in finding and getting input for this inquiry.

[3:41:38] I can support this investigation.

[3:41:42] I just as you examine these policy issues.

[3:41:47] I'm just interested in making sure that industry and business are consulted as well.

[3:41:53] So that we can see both sides of any challenge that we need to resolve with our own policies.

[3:41:59] So if you add that as a fifth element or an element to all the inquiries.

[3:42:07] I'm not seeking to delay.

[3:42:09] I'm just seeking that it be some sort of outreach that engages these communities.

[3:42:16] I don't know if chambers are ready but I know.

[3:42:19] So the San Diego EDC and the South County EDC may be better position to provide technical perspectives from the business community.

[3:42:29] And I don't know if you would welcome that.

[3:42:32] So yes, this is a short answer to your question.

[3:42:35] You listed local chamber of commerce and South County EDC.

[3:42:40] Good enough.

[3:42:41] I appreciate that.

[3:42:42] I appreciate that.

[3:42:43] Can I have consensus on that.

[3:42:45] Sir, please.

[3:42:46] All right.

[3:42:47] Thank you.

[3:42:48] That's it.

[3:42:49] I yield back.

[3:42:50] Thank you very much.

[3:42:53] We will now see does the.

[3:42:56] Awesome city clerk have a report.

[3:43:01] Thank you so much.

[3:43:02] Okay.

[3:43:03] You did an awesome job tonight.

[3:43:05] So thank you very much for your service.

[3:43:07] I will now go ahead and recognize the attorney.

[3:43:12] And then I know we're going to be going into close session.

[3:43:15] If you could just tell us if.

[3:43:17] We are any of these items we would need to report out to.

[3:43:22] No, I do not see the probability of I think you report out tonight.

[3:43:28] Mr. Mayor, so you think we could feel comfortable joining the meeting after.

[3:43:31] Open session.

[3:43:34] And yeah, I just want to acknowledge as well that the city clerk did an amazing job tonight.

[3:43:38] Good job, sir.

[3:43:39] We do have close session tonight.

[3:43:41] There are three items on the closed session agenda.

[3:43:44] These are all conference with legal counsel regarding existing litigation.

[3:43:49] The person to government code section five, four nine five six point nine.

[3:43:54] D one item 15.1 a is city of chillin, but see there's a slate.

[3:44:01] I'm 15.1 b is Eric Crockett versus city of chillin, vista.

[3:44:05] And I'm 15.1 c is Roxanne Kennedy versus city of chillin, vista.

[3:44:10] All as further described in your agenda.

[3:44:13] And now I'm as smart as thank you for your patience.

[3:44:15] I'm sorry for making you delay, but.

[3:44:17] But now would be the appropriate time to give any public comment.

[3:44:19] Thank you.

[3:44:20] Madam Clerk, do we have any other speakers besides Mr. Martinez?

[3:44:23] Just Mr. Martinez.

[3:44:24] Okay.

[3:44:25] Thank you.

[3:44:26] Okay.

[3:44:27] Sure, no problem.

[3:44:28] I mean, that's my bad, I guess, for not seeing that agenda item at the end.

[3:44:34] My name is Greg Martinez, and I'm a long time resident over 20 years in Rolling Hills

[3:44:38] Ranch District of Chulivista.

[3:44:41] And I just wanted to speak to you today about the lawsuit recently filed by former police

[3:44:45] chief Roxana Kennedy.

[3:44:47] I find these allegations to be concerning, you know, defamation, harassment, invasion of privacy

[3:44:54] and claims that the city council attempted to push out the chief of police.

[3:44:59] That should-

[3:45:00] I'm sharing every resident of the city regardless of what side of the political spectrum you have in the fall on.

[3:45:06] When a police chief names every member of the city council, as the finance in the lawsuit, that signals a major breakdown in trust and governance at the highest levels of our city government.

[3:45:18] The lawsuit probably is going to cost a city significant amounts of time and money regardless of the outcome.

[3:45:25] First we, the taxpayers, are ultimately the ones who will bear the burden when disputes at the top levels of government spiral until litigation.

[3:45:33] What especially caught the public's attention was the statements made by Mrs. Kennedy's attorney who just came flat out and said that she alleged she was discriminated against because she was white.

[3:45:46] But he also accused members of the city leadership of attempting to groom somebody because it happened to be Latino and they're from an outside organization to replace chief Kennedy.

[3:45:57] And if those allegations are true, that is very wrong.

[3:46:00] Racial discrimination is wrong no matter who the target is and government position should never be filled based on race or political favoritism.

[3:46:11] Public safety leadership should be based on competence, integrity and experience, and the confidence of the officers serving underneath that leadership.

[3:46:21] Not identity politics or political agendas.

[3:46:25] So at a time when the chill of us the police department is reportedly, um, understaffed by about 30 officers of open positions.

[3:46:33] The city council should focus more on supporting officers and encouraging young people to pursue careers in law enforcement and public service.

[3:46:43] And not create division.

[3:46:45] That should concern every resident because staffing shortages directly affect response times public safety officer morale and the city's ability to recruit and retain qualified officers.

[3:47:00] This incident you know also I just the perception could be that it's an attempt for the city council maybe to put in somebody that they can control.

[3:47:09] Is it really because I don't think it's really because of a great civil rights crusade because we've had Hispanic chiefs of police here before.

[3:47:17] So my ask is for the city council please please focus on public safety rather than creating divisions within the police department or within the community itself.

[3:47:28] Thank you so much for your time.

[3:47:30] We will now go ahead and go into closed session and then convening our meeting for tonight and the next meeting will be a regular scheduled meeting on June 2nd.

[3:47:46] I have five o'clock in here in this.

[3:48:16] Thank you.

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