Name: Regular Meeting of Council
Uploaded: 2020-05-25T00:00:00Z
Duration: 1 h 46 min 34 s
Description: So thank you to all of them, thanks to everyone, thank you to our CAO who allowed us all of this support, we certainly could not have done it without all of the city's support.

[3:42] Your TV is waiting for us.

[7:23] Webcast audience and your TV, we have a new configuration and a new system that we are trying out tonight, and it sounds good, and I think we're going to be OK. So we'll stand for a moment of personal reflection.

[7:37] We'll

[7:57] ask Councillor Gardner to lead us in a singing of the National Anthem, please.

[8:06] Oh Canada, our whole and native land, true patriot love, in all of us command, Calton

[8:27] In the history of love and liberation.

[8:33] There is no more of the land,

[8:38] There is no more of the land,

[8:38] God keeps our land,

[8:42] glorious and free.

[9:06] Thank you, Councillor Gardner. That was beautiful.

[9:14] We acknowledge that we are gathering

[9:16] on the traditional territory of Mohawk people of aqua-sasning.

[9:19] Madam Clerk, roll call.

[9:22] Mayor Bernadette Clima, present.

[9:26] Councillors, Claude McIntosh, Elaine Mcdonald, present, Sid Garner, Dean Hollingsworth,

[9:33] Cadeline Barre, present.

[9:36] Councillors, Modice Dupelle, Glenn Grant, Todd Bennett, and Councillor Eric Bergeron.

[9:48] We have regrets from Councillor Towne dail Madam Mayor.

[9:53] Any additions, deletions or amendments? Councillor Mcdonald.

[9:58] Thank you, Madam Mayor, and I would move that we move 14.1, the proclamation of paramedic

[10:04] services week, to communications from consent.

[10:08] Thank you.

[10:10] Any other items?

[10:13] Madam Clerk?

[10:14] I have none, Madam Mayor.

[10:18] Adoption at the agenda.

[10:21] Moved by Councillor McIntosh, seconded by Councillor Gardner.

[10:24] Any discussion?

[10:27] So when I call for a vote, I'll ask the Councillors on the phone first.

[10:32] All in favour?

[10:33] Anyone

[10:38] else in favour?

[10:40] Carried.

[10:42] Any disclosure of interest?

[10:46] Councillor Todd Bennett.

[10:47] Can I ask that we have, in passing, a by-laws 2010 pulled out to be voted on separately as

[10:55] it's the property is in my backyard, basically.

[10:59] Madam Clerk, I have that under note to Madam Mayor.

[11:03] Thank you.

[11:05] I need a motion to go into committee of the whole.

[11:08] Councillor Mcdonald, Councillor Grant.

[11:11] On the phone, all in favour?

[11:14] In favour?

[11:16] In the room, in favour?

[11:19] Carried.

[11:21] Adoption of minutes.

[11:23] So we have the meeting of May 11, 2020.

[11:28] Moved by Councillor McDonnell, seconded by Councillor Bennett. Any discussion?

[11:34] All in favour? On the phone?

[11:37] In favour.

[11:38] In the room.

[11:40] Carried.

[11:44] Madam Clerk.

[11:46] Concert portion of the agenda. First report is the Ontario Regulation 284-09 Budget

[11:52] Matter Expenses with a recommendation that Council receive this report as required

[11:56] by the Municipal Act. COVID-19 Temporary Pandemic Wage Subsidy with a recommendation

[12:03] that Council receive this report. And RFP terms of reference for supply at maintenance

[12:08] of multi-function devices with a recommendation that Council receive this report.

[12:12] Moved

[12:16] by Councillor Bennett, seconded by Councillor Hollingsworth. Any discussion? All in favor on the phone?

[12:25] In favor, sorry Madam Mayor, I just had one question. Yes, Councillor Debelle, go ahead.

[12:31] I just wanted to know through you to Madam, this is Adam. I know that the report for 14.3 says that we're going to,

[12:39] that we, employers, would get communication by basis.

[12:43] Did we, in fact, get communication from the problem?

[12:46] Madam CEO, through you, Madam Mayor.

[12:49] No, we have not.

[12:50] So we also put this item on the agenda,

[12:55] which was published midweek last week,

[12:57] hoping that at some point in time

[12:59] there might have been further communication from the province.

[13:02] So it's a stands right now.

[13:03] We're still awaiting to try and understand exactly

[13:07] what positions and who will qualify.

[13:10] But I could also redirect it to Mr. Clark who I think could speak to how quickly the city should be able to

[13:17] Respond once we have better information

[13:20] Mr. Clark

[13:20] Thank you, so for administratively the city is ready to proceed with this

[13:28] Once we receive direction and guidance from the province about how this is to be administered

[13:34] We are ready to press the go button as soon as we find that out

[13:37] Thank you very much, Mr. Court.

[13:42] Thank you, Madam Mayor.

[13:44] So, Councillors Depele and Berserol in favour?

[13:47] In favour?

[13:48] In favour?

[13:49] In favour?

[13:49] In the room.

[13:52] Carried.

[13:58] Our next item is an unfinished business report closing of Pit Street for COVID-19.

[14:03] Recommended that A, Council receive this report.

[14:06] B, that Pit Street from 3rd to 1st remain open to vehicles.

[14:10] and see that downtown businesses be encouraged to make use of the city's encroachment agreement

[14:15] application, should they wish to increase restaurant or retail space.

[14:24] Councillor Berserun. I'd like to make a motion to receive this report.

[14:31] Is there a seconder for that? Councillor Mackinac.

[14:34] I'll talk to that. Oh.

[14:37] Councillor Dupel, your seconding?

[14:42] Okay. Discussion. Do you want to start off, Councillor Berserun?

[14:49] Councillor Grant. Are we just passing the one point here to receive the report because

[14:58] because it's three parts to it.

[15:01] Just for clarification. Of course. Councilor Persero. Motion is to receive the report. And the other items. Will you be speaking to- Does it be done separately afterwards? Okay. So do you want to speak on your motion to receive the report? Yes, please. Go ahead. I think it's important to comment. There's a few things that have come from this report and so there's actually a lot in it.

[15:31] I know that it was a short time line and I want to thank administration for putting it together

[15:36] so quickly, business groups and some businesses weren't too happy and they would have preferred

[15:42] more time to gather information and that's very well received.

[15:47] So I spoke personally to the Chamber of DBA this week and to discuss a feedback, the business

[15:53] leaders in those meetings know we and the Council are trying to help them and they've offered

[15:59] some solutions that are in this report.

[16:01] I also want to point out we received a related report today, a survey of almost 200 local

[16:08] businesses and 15% of them said they risked closing permanently in the next four to

[16:15] six months.

[16:16] That's almost 30 local businesses already stating that they've had to close in the coming

[16:21] months.

[16:22] That's one in six.

[16:22] So the conclusion for me is that we're in an economic emergency right now and this request

[16:29] for this report is meant to help to deal with that.

[16:34] I think we've done a pretty good job at mitigating the medical emergency in this region.

[16:39] There's no Dr. Paul for the economy.

[16:42] And so we as counselors, we make motions, we ask for reports.

[16:47] We're in a pandemic, so speed and not perfection for mantra.

[16:52] So if I ask you for a report this way, we're able to get some feedback from the businesses

[16:57] as well as the community, the BIAs, the Chamber, the Police, Farmwall Transit, Economic

[17:04] Development Planning, Engineering.

[17:06] We reviewed the encroachment process and quite a few ideas have come forward.

[17:13] I think it's important to remember that as a council, we also have to factor in public safety

[17:18] when we make decisions.

[17:20] I see other cities setting up economic recovery teams and that's one of the items of the feedback that we've received here from the Chamber and the BIA.

[17:31] It's something I fully support and that it would allow us maybe an avenue for talking about ideas in a different way.

[17:39] The report says the businesses don't want third to second clothes.

[17:43] That's loud and clear, that's no problem.

[17:45] No motion I don't think is required because pitch street is already open.

[17:52] Some businesses, however, we're talking about maybe closing pitch street, south of second

[17:57] street, maybe on weekends, you know, I hear some compromise on that block and so I don't

[18:03] want to make a motion that's going to get in the way of them succeeding through this

[18:07] pandemic.

[18:08] So the motion is to receive so that their hands aren't tied.

[18:13] I saw that the province today is looking to speed up outdoor patio and licensing violence

[18:19] to prepare restaurants for expanding onto streets, so I look forward to that coming forward.

[18:25] These are the types of suggestions that sound like an economic recovery task force is necessary,

[18:30] And so I would ask therefore, Madam Mayor, that you set up as per the suggestion in economic recovery task force.

[18:40] And we as the Council start treating the economic crisis that we're in, like we have the health pandemic.

[18:46] We don't want to lose 15% of our local businesses.

[18:50] So therefore I move to accept this report.

[18:52] I would also like to make a second motion to about free parking after we talk about this.

[18:58] So, this motion is to receive the report and I have started a speaker's list, Councillor

[19:05] about it.

[19:07] Thank you Madam Mayor.

[19:08] I have no questions.

[19:09] I just really want to thank Mr. Buello for this really excellent report, especially with

[19:14] such a short time frame.

[19:16] I think the information that was provided to us was excellent beyond my expectations.

[19:21] Provided some history that I didn't have about Pitt Street, that I'm glad I was able

[19:28] to learn through this report, and I'm glad to see that our downtown is already very pedestrian

[19:34] friendly and provides us with plenty of space for our local businesses to expand onto that pedestrian

[19:42] space in this time of COVID-19, but I'm quite grateful for this report. I think it was excellent.

[19:49] So thank you to you and your team for putting it together.

[19:54] Thank you. Any other questions, comments? Councillor McIntosh.

[19:58] I guess I'd direct this towards Mark.

[20:02] The encroachment agreement I believe that was passed by Council, member of Council

[20:07] Township proposed that, and I don't know who second it, about two years ago.

[20:12] What's been the reaction in that time?

[20:16] Mr. Butler.

[20:17] Through you, Madam Mayor.

[20:19] So that report was written in 2016.

[20:23] As you see, it's got quite a few pages to it.

[20:26] It's a very detailed report.

[20:29] The, it's unfortunate, the take up on it was not what we expected.

[20:36] I think there are some opportunities on pit street, certainly on pit street.

[20:40] And it's really intended not just for pit street, but for the downtown Anlo Villache.

[20:46] It speaks to encroachments onto the city's right of way.

[20:51] Hopefully in most situations on to, for example, the brick work, the pedestrian space on Pitt Street, and in fact also allows in a more complicated way, though, the use of parking spaces for that same thing, I can speak further to that, but to answer your question, there was no uptake since the date.

[21:19] So, the history that we have, of course, is we have one or two or three actually, we

[21:25] in fact have three current, sorry, two current encroachment agreements for

[21:30] restaurants. There is one that we used to have with Gemini Cafe and unfortunately,

[21:39] of course, that restaurant is no longer there, so there are currently two

[21:42] restaurants, schnitzels and truffles, truffles into the side yard and as written in my report

[21:52] I really highly recommend that more businesses and I think there will be some businesses

[21:59] that come forward, not just restaurants but perhaps even retail, who will come forward

[22:04] to take advantage.

[22:06] I know that there has been some concern raised in some of the correspondence of that system being a bit convoluted.

[22:18] I think there are some good reasons why the process involves as many different departments.

[22:25] For example, if you're talking about a parking space, you're talking about that's the city's right of way.

[22:32] and somebody is now using it for sales or restaurant.

[22:36] There are liability issues there.

[22:38] You want to make sure that people are in a very safe situation.

[22:43] So while I would agree that we would want to simplify the process, we can't simplify it to the point where it's not following permission from whether it'd be the police or the transportation department or

[23:00] or the municipal works, et cetera.

[23:03] So we wanna make sure that people can make use of that space.

[23:06] That's why it was designed that way.

[23:10] And we would encourage people

[23:11] and we'd be happy to work with them to make that happen.

[23:16] I only had one comment from a business person,

[23:20] excuse me, I don't know if it's a fair comment or not,

[23:22] but he said you needed to be a Philadelphia lawyer

[23:25] to read the agreement.

[23:26] And that's the scary some people off.

[23:28] I don't, I've never read the agreement so I don't know.

[23:31] Well, if I can just make a comment on that, I, again, I read it in greater detail recently and I would agree that there's a lot there.

[23:42] Again, though, I think we have to be very careful when we're putting the public on essentially the right way.

[23:50] Okay, that information for the parking space situation is much more complicated than putting somebody on to the pedestrian space of our right of way.

[24:03] The process though, there's a flow chart that you have in your report.

[24:10] And as much as it looks a bit complicated, it's really just an applicant makes an application to the planning department,

[24:18] the planning department circulates to other city departments and perhaps other agencies, the Health Unit, for example, may be one.

[24:27] And that comes to council and there's a $370 one-time fee.

[24:32] So we can simplify it and we can play with the fee, but it's really not that complicated.

[24:40] There is a lot of information that's required in the application, but

[24:45] But it's all information that I would hesitate to remove anything from it, because when you

[24:51] get into insurance and liability and permission, I think you want to get as much information

[24:59] as you need.

[25:01] Yeah, I agree with you on the liability and the other issues.

[25:04] Just to something Councillor Burgeon referred to was the survey that Bob Peter sent us about

[25:10] an hour ago, surprising, shocking in some ways. Obviously, anything we can do to help retail

[25:21] really appreciate it. Thank you. Mr. Wallow, can you reference that survey

[25:29] that Councillor McIntosh just spoke of?

[25:33] It's a survey that was put out by SDNG together

[25:38] with the city of Cornwall. I think it asked a number of questions. I don't have the information

[25:45] in front of me, unfortunately. If I was to go back and perhaps give you a bit of information

[25:50] later, I can do that. I just unfortunately don't have it here in front of me, but I can

[25:55] make reference to it later, if you wish. That's fine. I just want to make sure that

[26:00] the audience knows that they can also access that report on the Choose Cornwall website,

[26:04] I believe. So that's also good information for people.

[26:12] Any other questions from Council or comments?

[26:15] Councillor Gartner.

[26:18] I really only have a comment and during

[26:21] the past meeting when we were talking about pitch tree and the closure, one of the things

[26:27] I said to you, Mark, was to come back with a report and a report that you wrote and you came

[26:34] back with in a short period of time I really appreciate it and I thank you very much for that.

[26:42] Any other questions?

[26:48] Councillor Depelle?

[26:53] Okay. So I will just add some comments so you

[27:00] did have a very tight time frame to produce a report and so I do want to also thank you

[27:07] for how thorough this report is and it does provide some really good historical information

[27:14] which is a reminder of what we had back in the day.

[27:21] My understanding is that people want to make sure that their businesses are not impacted by any kind of activity that is going to reduce access to the downtown.

[27:39] However, in my conversations with business owners, there's a real difference between how

[27:47] restaurants feel about this and how stores feel about it.

[27:52] And so, that might merit further conversation.

[27:56] I am part of the Eastern Ontario Mayor's Caucus, and I know that in other cities in Eastern

[28:02] Ontario, including Kingston, they are looking at doing a temporary type of lane reduction

[28:10] and or periodic closure of part of their downtown to accommodate particularly restaurants.

[28:18] The City of Kingston also references the province becoming involved to make things easier

[28:24] for restaurants who want to enlarge their patios as well.

[28:31] So we know that there's a lot of discussion going on, but I do want to thank administration

[28:36] for getting ahead of this.

[28:38] You in fact started to talk to business owners ahead of the last council meeting because

[28:43] you were dealing with curbside.

[28:46] And so you were already canvassing the DBA and the Chamber of Commerce.

[28:53] So I do appreciate that.

[28:55] The comment about the economic recovery or task force is a good one.

[29:00] Again, at the Eastern Ontario Mayor's caucus and the CAO was present, and the CAO in fact

[29:06] has been talking to other CAOs and has been talking about an economic recovery or task

[29:12] force for the last few weeks.

[29:15] And the executive director of the Chamber of Commerce also raised that possibility in the

[29:21] last few weeks.

[29:23] So I might ask the CAO to speak of her understanding of an economic recovery task force, her experience

[29:29] with other municipalities.

[29:32] Thank you, Madam Mayor.

[29:34] I think that what I've been able to gather from some other municipalities if task force

[29:41] was put together would have a composition of many different types of businesses, different

[29:48] sectors, some staff, some elected officials, really with a focus of brainstorming if there

[29:57] there are things that could be moved.

[30:00] I would like to pause quicker by bringing all of the right representatives together to potentially make a decision or look at something. I have not seen terms or reference for some of these tasks for us yet, but I might be able to obtain some. And then I think depending on the municipality, there might be a slightly different approach. I know that in Prince Edward County, part of their approach really is about safe tourism as well because I think they're anticipating an influx of

[30:29] of tourists still into their region.

[30:32] So it depends a little bit, I think, on the area,

[30:35] but it's something that I think certainly could be put together.

[30:41] Yes, and our neighbors in Eastern Ontario

[30:44] are very willing to share all of their best practices.

[30:47] So it's a good one, and we can proceed with that,

[30:50] and we've started to have conversation about that.

[30:52] So that was just a comment in response

[30:55] to Councillor Berseriel's comments.

[30:56] I also had, you know, through Facebook Live, some very good discussions with business owners.

[31:04] And so, I think we need to continue that conversation.

[31:07] They have very good ideas, very big ideas.

[31:11] And depending on their point of view, they do want to have chats with each other and amongst themselves.

[31:18] So, I think the DBIA and the Chamber of Commerce for being so available,

[31:24] so quick to respond to surveys and so quick to provide information for this report.

[31:30] So much appreciated. I'll call for the vote on the phone in favour of receiving the

[31:38] report? In favour? In the room, all in favour?

[31:43] Against? Carried.

[31:49] I'd like to make a second motion without a

[31:50] mayor's permit. Councillor Berseron, what's your

[31:53] motion. Related to the report, the city of Cornwall implemented in 4, 3, 1 hour street

[32:00] parking in our downtown business district and 2 hour free parking in our downtown parking

[32:05] lots as per the record. So I'm going to have to either refer to the CIO or the clerk as

[32:13] to the motion and the timing of this motion.

[32:22] Through you Madam Mayor, it is my opinion that

[32:25] this motion is not germane to the, this report itself.

[32:28] Why is that?

[32:29] You want to clear?

[32:30] Because this deals with the closing of pit street.

[32:33] And there was a separate motion made at our last meeting,

[32:36] asking for a report on parking

[32:38] and that one will be coming at our next meeting.

[32:44] Councillor Persiault.

[32:47] Well, that report was supposed to be at this meeting.

[32:50] This is the only motion for the downtown.

[32:56] So as for the request.

[32:59] Right.

[32:59] Can someone remind me as to when the, so there were several motions at the last council meeting when what was the schedule for

[33:08] producing the reports?

[33:11] The parking report was supposed to be on this agenda. It has been prepared, but was just missing a little bit of information and didn't make it on time for a production of this agenda. So it's been pushed back to the next meeting of June 8th.

[33:27] So I did at the last meeting state that because the motions had come rather quickly that I would grant a lot of leeway in terms of the administration providing the report when they could.

[33:42] So Mr. Buello, you will have something for us on June 8th?

[33:47] Absolutely. If I may also amount of money.

[33:51] Please go ahead.

[33:52] There was more information that's required.

[33:57] The more we got into this subject, the more we realized we need to better understand

[34:04] our entire parking program, working with the finance department, trying to understand

[34:11] the money that we're collecting, what impact it would have if we weren't collecting it.

[34:16] Where do we use that money?

[34:18] any, all of that needs to be looked at and the impact of doing something like this.

[34:23] I also want to point out that at this time, the city is not charging for parking in any event.

[34:34] So, in fact, we've not really given a whole lot of thought to starting that process up until we get into a more normal economic situation.

[34:47] So while the motion is looking for a one hour or two hour parking relief, the fact of the matter is for the next two weeks, we're not charging at any of those locations.

[34:59] At any city locations, I should point out though that contraventions, of course, parking in fire lanes in front of, et cetera, would still is still a violation, but regular parking fees are not being applied.

[35:15] Okay. Okay. So, Council, Councillor Berserot, the, so your motion would need to come forward

[35:28] June 8th. And I would recommend that the wording that you've used today, that you

[35:34] communicate that to administration as soon as possible so that their report of June 8th can

[35:41] address or start to take a look at what you're looking at.

[35:46] But in the meantime, it's clear that parking right now, downtown, is free at this point.

[35:58] The other thing I'd like to say is that parking is a major issue.

[36:01] I know that we've been talking about that and the merchants have been talking about that for a long time.

[36:06] It's important that the report be complete so that we can have a full discussion on June 8th.

[36:15] But yes, go ahead and comment Councillor Bergeroon.

[36:18] I just want to say, we're, I just pointed out that one out of six businesses in our community

[36:24] already are telling us that they cannot survive this pandemic.

[36:30] If we want to wait another two weeks, that's fine, I understand procedure, but the Chamber

[36:35] number of commerce, the DBIA, is asking us to initiate free parking immediately.

[36:44] And so that's why I've made this motion.

[36:46] If we want to wait two weeks, that's fine, but that's two more weeks of businesses in

[36:50] the city suffering because of the procedure.

[36:54] Mr. Buello, it's my understanding the parking is free now.

[36:58] That is correct.

[37:00] So right now, businesses do businesses understand the parking is free?

[37:03] Does the community understand that?

[37:05] Should there be more discussion about that?

[37:08] We could, I could work with Emma to make sure that people understand that.

[37:14] I can tell you though that our collection is making it quite clear that people know that parking is free.

[37:21] How revenues are?

[37:23] Non-existent.

[37:24] Right.

[37:25] Okay.

[37:26] So, but again, to my point, there may be more information that could go out so that there's clarity around that for the community.

[37:36] Certainly, when this started, we didn't yell that from the rooftops.

[37:41] Some cities did, we did not.

[37:43] So we could probably use more information going out to the public.

[37:48] Mr. Bolo?

[37:48] Yes. What I'd like to say on that is that, of course, when most operations were closed, there was really not a need to publicize it because we were making it clear in some of our meetings with Council, and I think the media did pick up on that, but I think we can do a better job of making it clear, especially now that some uses are opening up.

[38:16] We can make that very clear.

[38:18] We can do that as immediately as today or tomorrow.

[38:23] But yes, absolutely, the revenues are showing that the public are aware, but we can make it very clear.

[38:34] Thank you, Mr. Buello.

[38:36] And I can certainly personally communicate with the Chamber of Commerce and with the DBIAs,

[38:41] both to have a discussion about that, but it does sound like a full report will be available

[38:48] June 8th and that we will have a full council discussion on the issue of parking.

[38:53] Councillor Burscher or anything further?

[38:56] Yes, I would just comment that in an email from the Chamber and the DBIA today they said this

[39:03] will send a powerful message to the area merchants and restaurateurs and will encourage customers

[39:09] to spend their money locally in our downtown again.

[39:13] They're asking for it immediately.

[39:16] And we, as a council, are saying our process is in the way.

[39:20] And that, to me, is just unfortunate.

[39:24] Well, I will be speaking personally to the DBA and to the Chamber

[39:29] of Commerce to tell them that parking is free right now.

[39:33] So we'll continue with that.

[39:36] And then we'll have a full discussion on June 8th.

[39:38] Any other comments from council?

[39:41] I just follow up.

[39:44] Councilor virtual,

[39:48] anybody else?

[39:50] Councilor McIntosh.

[39:53] Councilor virtual is leaving the impression that we're doing something nasty here by putting

[39:59] the delay in it two weeks.

[40:01] There's free parking now and there's going to be free parking probably until this thing's

[40:05] over.

[40:05] I mean, and I haven't seen anything official from the BIA and the Chamber.

[40:12] presentation, saying, hey, we need the free parking right now.

[40:18] So, their correspondence is in with the report.

[40:21] Both Mr. Petersma and Ms. Woods did include correspondence.

[40:27] Certainly, the Chambers' correspondence speaks to parking.

[40:31] We know this is an issue that's been coming up for a while, but no, we're not doing anything

[40:36] nasty.

[40:36] the parking is free, and we need to make sure that that's communicated to the public so

[40:41] that there's an understanding. And as I said, I will speak personally to both those

[40:46] organizations and Levilleage to make sure that that's clear. Okay. Councillor Gardner.

[40:55] Point of order, Madame Mayor. We, the motion was passed. There's no motion on the floor.

[41:02] We're talking without having any motion and that's totally against procedure bylaws, so let's move on to our agenda.

[41:10] I'm going to recognize that's right. I'm going to recognize Councillor Gardner and then we'll move forward.

[41:15] Councillor Gardner. On the same subject of the downtown businesses.

[41:22] I'd like to know how many businesses applied for the $5,000. So that'll be coming later.

[41:27] Thank you. Madam Clerk.

[41:34] Madam Mayor, if I may, is that the only motion that's being

[41:36] suggested on this clearly? I will move on to the next item, then.

[41:42] Tax write-offs' adjustments under communication has a recommendation that Council approve the

[41:47] tax write-offs' adjustments, vacancies, under sections 357 and 364, the Municipal Act.

[41:53] moved by? Councillor Grant and Councillor Ibar, any discussion or questions on

[42:06] the phone?

[42:10] I'm just trying to get a point of clarification from the, did we vote on the other two from

[42:15] 15.1? Yes, we did. We voted on the, to receive

[42:19] the report. Right, but it says that Councillor receives this report and that pitch street from

[42:25] 3rd to 1st remain open. I thought Councillor Bergman said they were good.

[42:28] There were no further. Oh, did you want to make another motion?

[42:36] I'm just trying to follow along. Right. There were no further motions after that. The only motion was to receive the report.

[42:43] Therefore, the traffic remains open. Yes. Correct.

[42:47] And down to how businesses are encouraged to make use of the city's encroached one agreement. Correct.

[42:53] Okay. Sorry. Thank you. No, that's fine.

[42:57] So on the phone,

[42:59] for the tax write-offs item,

[43:02] No comments.

[43:06] Councillor Dupont.

[43:08] Are you in favour?

[43:09] I'm in favour.

[43:10] Okay, in the room.

[43:12] All in favour?

[43:13] Against?

[43:14] Carried.

[43:18] Our next report is the April CPEG at 165 Montreal Road, 145 PIT, 134 Montreal Road and 711 PIT

[43:28] Street.

[43:29] And the action recommended is that Council approve the following items for 264-2200 Ontario

[43:37] Inc at 165 Montreal Road, Elizabeth and Chris Nurse at 145 Pitt Street, 194-3217 Ontario

[43:48] Inc at 134 Montreal Road, and 127-1450 Ontario Limited at 115 Sydney Street, Addendum for

[43:58] Brownfield.

[44:01] Moved by.

[44:04] Councillor Depelle, seconded by.

[44:07] Councillor McDonald, discussion. Questions?

[44:14] On the phone in favour.

[44:16] In the room, in favour? Against? Carried.

[44:25] Now we have our proclamation that was moved to communication. The action recommended is

[44:29] Is that Councillor Proclaim the week of May 24th as Paramedic Services Week 2020 in the

[44:35] City of Cornwall?

[44:37] Moved by. Councillor McDonnell, seconded by Councillor Gardner.

[44:41] Councillor McDonnell, did you want to speak?

[44:43] I'd love to, Madam Mayor, because I'm pleased to note that the head of our Paramedic Services

[44:49] is in the room and I hope that he will convey to all our paramedics that we are so grateful

[44:55] to them for the work they're doing and through them and

[45:00] Associated with them, all the other people who are responding simply because it's their job. And to them, they're doing their job, but to us, they're performing heroic service to the community. And we're very grateful. Thank you. Any other comments from council? Councillor Gardner. Yes, Madam Mayor. Oh, really quick one. Ditto. Ditto. Okay. Councillor Bergerall, was that you? Yes. Go ahead.

[45:27] I would just like to add the report says that paramedics are important and I believe

[45:32] them to be essential.

[45:36] Thank you, Councillor Bergerald.

[45:37] Councillor Depelle.

[45:40] I'm good, Madam Mayor.

[45:43] Any other comments from council? I'd just like to add Chief Lister, I know that you lost

[45:50] your mother recently during this time and I spoke of it at the last council meeting but I want

[45:56] to say that in your presence, I know that it must be so difficult to lose somebody during

[46:04] this time in particular and to have to grieve in a way that is not our usual process.

[46:12] And all the while, continuing to provide excellent service and leadership concerning our paramedic

[46:20] service, and to all the paramedics out there, I'm sure that you know that

[46:26] Dr. Paul Ramiliyotis, our medical officer of health, has repeatedly praised all of you,

[46:33] all of the service.

[46:35] You have all worked in remarkable partnership, particularly during this COVID-19 situation.

[46:41] And so we are grateful and very proud of the work that all of you are doing.

[46:47] And it's very fitting to highlight your service during this particular week.

[46:52] So, Merci beaucoup.

[46:53] Thank you very much.

[46:55] All in favor?

[46:58] On the phone.

[47:00] Thank you.

[47:01] Carried.

[47:04] Moving on to Tenderes, Madam Mayor.

[47:06] Yes.

[47:06] Tender 23, maintenance of traffic control signals and flashers systems.

[47:13] With a recommendation that this tender be awarded for a five-year period effective August first

[47:18] with an option to extend the contract for an additional two years

[47:21] to Black and McDonald limited from Ottawa, Ontario.

[47:25] at the total bid price of $2 million, $160,673 even, moved by Councillor Grant,

[47:36] seconded by Councillor Gardner. Discussion? Councillor Gardner?

[47:43] I wondered when I was looking through the report, was this company the only one that bid on

[47:50] or were there any other companies that bid on this?

[47:56] Madam CEO, through you, Madam Mayor, there was only one bid received.

[48:01] Thank you.

[48:02] Any further discussion?

[48:05] On the phone, all in favor?

[48:09] In favor.

[48:10] In the room, in favor, against, carried.

[48:16] Purchase of transit buses through the Transit Procurement Initiative, with a recommendation

[48:21] at Council approve the purchase of two conventional buses from Nova Bus through the Metrolinx Transit

[48:27] Procurement Initiative process.

[48:30] Moved by Councillor Mcdonald, seconded by Councillor Venet, discussion.

[48:38] All in favour on the phone?

[48:40] In favour.

[48:42] In favour.

[48:43] In the room.

[48:45] All in favour?

[48:47] Carried.

[48:51] Bylaws, Madam Mayor. That bylaws 20, 26, 66 to 74 inclusive listed on the agenda are

[48:59] being presented to Council for adoption. Moved by Councillor Grant, seconded by Councillor

[49:06] McDonald. All in favour? In the room favour on the phone?

[49:12] In favour.

[49:15] Carried.

[49:16] And our second motion we're looking for bylaws is to approve bylaw to authorize the sale

[49:22] of Extended Maggedded Duville and Extended Eastern Avenue.

[49:26] Moved by Councillor Mcdonald, seconded by Councillor McIntosh.

[49:33] Any discussion?

[49:36] All in favor on the phone?

[49:40] In the room?

[49:42] Carried.

[49:45] Can I ask one question?

[49:47] Go ahead, Councillor Mcdonald.

[49:48] New business.

[49:52] We're actually right now at the reports

[49:54] from committees of council.

[49:56] Okay, I just had a motion I want to present

[49:58] on a new business.

[49:59] Okay.

[50:01] Madam Clerk.

[50:02] So do we have any reports from committees of council?

[50:05] Wanna do that first and then go to new business after?

[50:07] Councilor Mack, are you okay with that?

[50:08] Fine.

[50:10] So reports from committees of council

[50:12] and I'll also take any questions that

[50:16] Councillors may have about COVID-19

[50:19] and how the city is responding.

[50:20] So Councillor Gardner, your question about the small business loan could happen here or any question related to how we're dealing with COVID-19.

[50:30] So I'll start with Councillor Gardner and then Councillor Ibad and then Councillor McDonald.

[50:37] So my question is how many businesses responded to the $5,000 loan that we're giving out?

[50:48] Through you, Madam Mayor.

[50:50] So there were 106 applications that were received.

[50:54] Council will recall that we were counting on a ballpark of about 100 applications and

[51:01] so the estimation was very close to being correct.

[51:07] We received 104 before the deadline, so 106 applications, 104 before the deadline.

[51:17] There were most, I would suggest, were very good and very, very qualified for the application.

[51:27] 80 of those applications have been approved.

[51:31] I know Tracy Bailey and Dana McLean worked to review all of those, and those 80 will

[51:40] be processed as soon as we can do that.

[51:45] There were three that were from out of town businesses, so there are some that weren't

[51:50] qualifying, so three were out of town, two were non-profit organizations, and so therefore

[51:57] or, again, that was outlined as being not applicable.

[52:01] So that leaves us with 101, one application withdrew.

[52:05] So that brings us to 100, and of course, with the two being late,

[52:10] it brings us to the number 98.

[52:13] But again, 80 were very quickly approved.

[52:17] They will be processed very quickly, a little bit more thought to go on the balance of the applications.

[52:24] but I believe, perhaps if there's more to say, Tracy Bailey can add a bit more on the balance of the applications.

[52:34] But I think I want to thank Dana and everyone who worked on this, it was done in a pretty quick and efficient way.

[52:44] And I think hit the mark on what the businesses were looking for.

[52:49] I asked the question because I spoke to a number of business owners who really were in

[52:54] pretty good shape and they weren't going to be in need of that money. So that was good news.

[53:00] So thank you for the work. I know that the day that it was brought up that you said it would

[53:05] be a lot of work. And so I appreciate what you've done. You and your staff, thank you.

[53:13] Councillor Ebert and then Councillor McDonald. Thank you Madam Mayor. You allowed me to speak on

[53:18] on the subject at our last council meetings. I just wanted to follow up at our last meeting

[53:22] I spoke about the Regional Emergency Response Council and the delivery of hampers, groceries

[53:30] to seniors or vulnerable people. That did take place over the last two weeks and I just wanted

[53:35] to take a moment to thank the City of Cornwall and all of its staff members who stepped up

[53:41] to support us. Without the city's support, we could not have accomplished such a large

[53:49] project from the staff at the Benson Centre. We basically just moved in for two weeks

[53:54] and they were really great to transit who provided us with buses to do deliveries to the

[54:02] by-law staff who did deliveries as well. We also had municipal work staff and I think they

[54:09] We might still be picking up boxes at grocery stores for us to pack these groceries in.

[54:14] And finally, I really want to thank the staff from Rachelia Daycare that were basically

[54:19] redeployed to us for the two-week period.

[54:22] And they were absolutely amazing.

[54:26] And without them, I don't think we could have accomplished what we did.

[54:29] They worked harder than I could have ever asked for and did it with a smile.

[54:37] And I think we enjoyed every moment of it and I of course would really hope that they can get back to work as soon as possible, but if we do this project again, I'm hoping they can hold off and help us because they were really amazing and I want to just shout out to all of them to the seven ladies who are with us this whole time.

[54:56] They were absolutely amazing and we set all week that, you know, we only hired the best with the City of Cornell and this was proof, they were fantastic.

[55:04] So thank you to all of them, thanks to everyone, thank you to our CAO who allowed us all of this support, we certainly could not have done it without all of the city's support.

[55:15] And so all of the partners involved are quite grateful and I just wanted to take this moment to express that gratitude.

[55:23] Thank you for that report.

[55:25] I know that the CAO said that city employees were almost fighting to be able to be involved

[55:32] in this project and certainly the ones that I met and spoke to confirm that and they

[55:39] got more out of it they say than what they put into it.

[55:43] So yes, kudos to all of them, to all of your volunteers and yes, remarkable work.

[55:49] We've heard, we've had emails from people who have received the hampers,

[55:54] written letters to the editor, so they have expressed their gratitude as well.

[55:59] And it's been lovely.

[56:01] Yes.

[56:01] Good work.

[56:03] Thank you.

[56:04] Councillor Mcdonald.

[56:06] Thank you, Madam Mayor.

[56:07] I just want to give a shout out to the administrative staff of Cormon Area Housing Corporation,

[56:14] because in this time when they could have locked the doors and put a sign on the window

[56:23] saying, you know, call this number or whatever, because of the physical layout of the office,

[56:29] they felt they were able to keep the door unlocked so that if people came to the door,

[56:33] they could actually enter the premises and not have immediate human interaction with anybody.

[56:40] But through a glass they could certainly communicate with people if they chose to use that way to pay their rent, the way they always have in person, they could do so.

[56:49] And I think it meant a lot to people because coronary housing corporation manages the households of 1,400 people in this not more than 1,400 people, 1,400 apartments.

[57:02] So, I think it's a really key action on the part of the administration to keep the doors unlocked.

[57:11] Thank you.

[57:13] Any other reports, standing committees? Any questions related to COVID-19?

[57:19] I have a question, Madam Mayor.

[57:21] Councillor Perzor, I'll go ahead.

[57:23] It was for Mr. Wallow during his update, so I didn't think we got away from that.

[57:29] No, that's fine.

[57:30] You mentioned that you mentioned 80 applicants or roughly 80 were going to receive this.

[57:37] Were there any people who applied after the deadline that we just didn't allow?

[57:44] Is there room to continue this moving forward if we don't set a deadline to it?

[57:50] Mr. Buello.

[57:55] Is it Madam CFO then?

[57:57] Yes, through you, Madam Mayor, we haven't had the conversation yet regarding the two applications

[58:02] that have come in late, there is room for them to be included in the 100.

[58:09] If we go or accept applications of more than 100, we would come to council to understand

[58:17] what that funding of those applications would look like through our brown fields reserved possibly.

[58:24] Maybe the CAO would like to comment further.

[58:28] Mr. Ballot.

[58:30] I've been giving a little bit of thought at that as well.

[58:35] I think if we're going to accept any of the late applications, I think you would perhaps

[58:42] want to give some consideration to having an opening it up a little bit for a bit of time

[58:49] because someone may have wanted to apply and didn't apply because they would have been late.

[58:55] So you may want to give some consideration to having it open for just another week or something to allow for those who wanted to and didn't get to so that you're not just giving in favor of those two applications, you may be giving in favor of 20 applications.

[59:12] I don't know what the number would be, but it would seem to me that if I didn't apply

[59:17] because I knew I was late and then you will allow those two that anyway.

[59:23] I'll just, I'll ask the CAO for comment here.

[59:27] Would this be the place for a motion to that effect if a Councillor wanted to make that

[59:31] motion about extending the deadline or determining whether we should accept those two or additional

[59:39] time?

[59:43] Sorry.

[59:43] Thank you Madam Mayor. We could entertain a motion from Council to, if they wanted to allow us to extend the program in today's Monday, we could extend the program to end of day Friday.

[1:00:00] For example, I think that like we budgeted a pretty, it was a pretty good plan that came together. So I think that if there were, it was an opportunity to open up again, we might see more applications. I don't think we would see a, I don't like it. So I know, right. So I think that it would be an amount that I would say financially and reasonably could be managed. Okay. Thank you. I'm still going to go back to Councillor virtual.

[1:00:29] for comment? I do recognize that I'll turn to calling Councillor Hollingsworth in a minute.

[1:00:36] Councillor Verjourn. Thank you. The point I'm trying to make

[1:00:39] is look, in the report, we received a date from our economic development department. Almost

[1:00:44] half of the business that businesses said they applied for loans, but they didn't receive.

[1:00:49] Now this doesn't mean this loan. It means just in general that support they're looking

[1:00:54] for, they haven't received. So whatever we can do to extend that deadline

[1:00:59] to make it easier, I'll make that motion today.

[1:01:03] I don't want to have any business in the city think that a deadline is what's preventing

[1:01:09] them from surviving.

[1:01:12] So what's your motion, Councillor Bursroom?

[1:01:15] Is it—

[1:01:15] By the way, we just extend the deadline until the amount is exhausted, I suppose.

[1:01:23] All right.

[1:01:23] So the amount has been exhausted, right?

[1:01:26] Right.

[1:01:29] Had we budgeted for a hundred applications?

[1:01:32] That is correct. So it was, it's essentially $100,000 in grant money and the balance

[1:01:40] is long. So you're talking about $100,000 in a hundred approved applications. Of course

[1:01:45] if, you know, it's a multiple of $1,000, whichever applications you approved, you approved

[1:01:54] going forward.

[1:01:54] Right. So is your motion, Councillor Bergerald, to extend the deadline to this Friday?

[1:02:02] Yes, that would be the meeting of the motion.

[1:02:04] Okay.

[1:02:05] And I'm a point of order again.

[1:02:07] Yes.

[1:02:08] Councillor Patten.

[1:02:09] This is reports from the Standing Committee. This isn't even a standing committee.

[1:02:15] This is, if he wants to put a new motion on, it comes under new business.

[1:02:20] It could come to a result of this, but this is totally out of order right now.

[1:02:24] So I just had a conversation with the CAO to determine whether this is a good time for this motion.

[1:02:32] I do want to remind people that this needs to be timely and so these funds need to go out as soon as possible.

[1:02:40] So I'm willing to say and agree with the CAO that we can make this motion at this time due to the emergency situation of COVID-19 and businesses needing money now.

[1:02:54] But I'm a procedure guy and we've got a motion that was on the boats that we would have

[1:03:02] to amend in order to extend both the time and the amount because with a hundred we've

[1:03:10] extended, we've taken all the amount that we have approved, right?

[1:03:15] So I'm going to accept the motion.

[1:03:19] I understood. So I'm going to accept the motion and see if there's a seconder, and then we can have a discussion.

[1:03:25] Seconder for the motion, Councillor Gardner. Did you want to speak first, or should I recognize Councillor Hollingsworth first?

[1:03:32] Well, I can't speak because I think it's out of order, so I'm not going to even debate this because it's totally out of order.

[1:03:38] Okay. Councillor Hollingsworth.

[1:03:44] Two things, you worship, I can live with the motion, but I kind of agree with Councillor

[1:03:52] Grant and that there's no reason why that motion couldn't have been made when we get to

[1:03:57] new business. And just while I won't deviate, I'll hold that to later. So I can accept, the

[1:04:07] The one thing that I have a, maybe a question before I carry on here, currently, Mr.

[1:04:15] Buello, did I understand you correctly?

[1:04:17] The money that we set aside right now is spent.

[1:04:22] Like, we've allocated it, or we anticipate there'll be enough people who met the criteria

[1:04:28] that all of the money that counsel currently set aside has been spent, correct?

[1:04:34] I think we're working through you, Madam Mayor.

[1:04:38] We're working through within the parameters that were described by Council.

[1:04:42] We're working within that budget.

[1:04:44] If we were to go beyond a hundred applications, it is money that exceeds the motion from the last.

[1:04:57] Although I should indicate also though that we did indicate that we were going to

[1:05:04] report back to council, should the applications have been much larger? In fact, that was the reason

[1:05:13] why we gave updates from time to time to council. You know, there was a time when we wondered

[1:05:19] whether perhaps we were going to get 500 applications. And we would have had to come back to council.

[1:05:27] Okay. Well, I'll carry on from there. Currently, did I hear you right? Did you say 80 applications?

[1:05:32] have been approved by staff approved, which means the $500,000, I'm not sure if I completely heard you were understood you correctly.

[1:05:44] So we have 80 applications, the $500,000 that we set aside as a budgetary item and said we're going to get some of the money back when people pay the loan and we're giving $100,000 as grant money.

[1:05:59] Can I, like, is that $500,000 currently been used up?

[1:06:05] If the 80 groups all meet the criteria, are we out of money, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

[1:06:13] No, 80 applications would be $400,000.

[1:06:17] So we still have $100,000 left over for people who could apply from now till Friday.

[1:06:23] Okay, see that's where I'm not getting it.

[1:06:28] We have what we think to be plus or minus, up to 100 applications that could be approved.

[1:06:37] But there are currently 80 that are approved.

[1:06:40] Okay, so now I understand.

[1:06:43] Conceivably, if every the remaining ones that we haven't approved, if we said, yeah, they're all in, we are currently out of money.

[1:06:51] if everybody meets the criteria based on the committee,

[1:06:56] the criteria the committee has in place.

[1:06:59] Does that make sense?

[1:07:00] That is correct.

[1:07:01] Okay, so that being said, I guess a question back

[1:07:04] either to the CAO or the CFO,

[1:07:07] it really doesn't matter to me who answers it.

[1:07:10] If we said the motion currently on the floor,

[1:07:14] in order or not is debatable, but the point is,

[1:07:18] if council says yeah, that's great,

[1:07:20] We're going to leave it open until Friday and we get ten more applications.

[1:07:26] Let's use that as a number.

[1:07:28] Five, I don't even know.

[1:07:30] But if we even get five applications conceivably,

[1:07:34] we have to try to find some money from somewhere.

[1:07:36] Correct?

[1:07:38] Madam CEO.

[1:07:40] Thank you, Madam Mayor.

[1:07:42] So if we, I would recommend if Council wanted to consider extending the deadline

[1:07:48] to this Friday, then what we would do is with the deadline ending on Friday, that would

[1:07:55] likely allow staff to get through all of those applications the week following, and then

[1:08:03] although we might not have a report ready quite when we published the agenda, we should

[1:08:09] be able to have a report that we could add to a published agenda either at the end of the

[1:08:13] week or walk on the next council agenda with financial implications and then council

[1:08:19] can decide if they wanted to, they could decide how they wanted to take a look at funding

[1:08:27] those applications.

[1:08:28] Well, they want to fund it the same way we have for the first 100.

[1:08:32] Okay.

[1:08:33] So perhaps Madam CAO, you can reconcile my dilemma.

[1:08:38] I'm going to make a vote in favor of a motion, or we, as a council, could conceivably vote in favor of a motion to extend the deadline, but we haven't determined where the money is going to come from at the moment that we, in fact, support the motion.

[1:08:54] Is that not kind of backwards to the how we have historically done, and I realize there's a pandemic, but you don't throw all the rules out the window and say, well, let's just kind of,

[1:09:05] I think there needs to be at least some structured figuring out, I mean, we're talking about taxpayers' money, and I'm not saying that I want to see businesses go broke, but I think we still have to figure out what we're doing.

[1:09:19] So how do we reconcile supporting a motion when we as a council, along with senior admin, have not determined where we're getting the money from currently?

[1:09:32] And further to that, I don't think it's fair to say, hey, we've got this program apply for it, and then it's possible that the council council might say, gee, we really don't know where we're going to get the money, so we're not going to extend it.

[1:09:50] We extended the program, but so how do we reconcile what we traditionally do with what's going on right now with this motion?

[1:09:58] Madam Sue.

[1:09:59] That's for you, Madam Mayor.

[1:10:01] So based on the activity that we saw from the previous program, I think that maybe on

[1:10:09] an upside potential, maybe we might get 50 applications, we extended the deadline to Friday,

[1:10:15] maybe.

[1:10:16] Whether or not they'd all qualify, with respect to the $1,000 grant component that would become

[1:10:27] a budgetary item that would fall in the same process for the first 100, so instead of budgeting 50,000, one year and 50,000 the other year, we would end up budgeting 75,000 in each of those years.

[1:10:44] There is sufficient funds within the Brownfield Reserve.

[1:10:50] If council felt that that reserve was going to get too low with a report that we brought back to council

[1:10:57] There are other reserves that we have on our on our balance sheet, right? So again

[1:11:02] It's back to council as far as funding it from reserve. I think that through the CFO

[1:11:08] She can come back with a recommendation for council and the question would be with those additional applications. Do you want to add another

[1:11:16] other $25,000 to 2021 and 2022 to allow another 50 applications.

[1:11:26] Well, then perhaps a quick comment if I might your worship.

[1:11:30] Certainly recognizing we're in extending circumstances and nobody wants to see businesses go down the tubes because of something that we could conceivably do to help them.

[1:11:39] I'll, in fact, support the motion, but quite frankly, I am really, really not particularly

[1:11:46] comfortable with the way this is playing itself out.

[1:11:50] That being said, moving forward, I probably won't support any other motions that kind of

[1:11:57] plunge in headlong when I'm not completely clear as to how we're going to manage it, particularly

[1:12:04] when it comes to taxpayers' dollars.

[1:12:06] and while I'm not the, I don't want to be the big heavy here, but I think I'm not,

[1:12:12] I don't like the idea of, we have rules in place, we have procedures in place because

[1:12:18] our responsibility is to safeguard the public purse even in times of dire straits.

[1:12:27] So I'll support this one, but moving forward, I'll have my reservations make no mistake

[1:12:33] about that.

[1:12:34] Thank you.

[1:12:35] Any other comments? Councilor McIntosh.

[1:12:40] Does anybody have any turn down not qualified the application to receive receipt?

[1:12:49] Through you Madam Mayor, we approved 80 and the ones that did not qualify as Mr.

[1:12:55] Bwalo mentioned were based on the criteria of the program whether it be out of town or not for profit.

[1:13:02] The others were waiting further information.

[1:13:05] information, it could be that if we don't receive that information, they wouldn't qualify.

[1:13:10] But if we do, we suspect they will qualify.

[1:13:13] What's the deadline for that information?

[1:13:17] That was sent out to them at the end of last week and today, so normally we ask for a 48-hour

[1:13:25] turnaround.

[1:13:27] I would think any day.

[1:13:30] Madam CEO.

[1:13:32] Through you, Madam Mayor.

[1:13:33] maybe I could suggest we have 80 applications that have been approved and I would anticipate

[1:13:40] that those applications could be funded this week provided that agreements get signed

[1:13:45] and I think we can work very quickly through that. What we could do too is we could bring

[1:13:50] a report back at the next council meeting with the 20 or so remaining applications that we

[1:13:56] might need more information on. We might be able to come back to council and identify

[1:14:00] by out of those ones that we need digital information,

[1:14:03] how many have been successful as far as the criteria goes,

[1:14:08] or if there's some that we think do not qualify,

[1:14:11] there might be some money that does not spend.

[1:14:13] We could bring back other information in the report

[1:14:15] to speak to what types of businesses

[1:14:18] or sectors benefited from it.

[1:14:21] So we could bring back a report, have the financial information,

[1:14:25] and at that point in time, if Council wanted to do around two,

[1:14:29] for example, and if you wanted to add money to it or you wanted to just allow the money

[1:14:35] that's still remaining to get used until applications for as long as it takes for applications

[1:14:41] to use up those funds, we can come back with that information.

[1:14:46] That sounds like a good idea.

[1:14:50] Any further comment?

[1:14:52] Madam Mayor.

[1:14:54] Yes, Councillor Jepell and then Councillor Gardner.

[1:14:56] Councillor Jepell.

[1:14:58] Yeah, I would prefer to

[1:15:00] We're doing the option that this item is just presented because I was going to speak in regards to the same lines of Councillor Hawing's words. Why this just wouldn't go as a new business motion. And then as a new business motion, you have what's being asked and right now we're sort of like have the curb before the horse. So I would much more appreciate what Miss Adams has just said so that it's clear and transparent that our next meeting.

[1:15:29] Thank you. Councillor Gardner.

[1:15:30] Well,

[1:15:33] here's one time when I agree with Councillor Burser on.

[1:15:38] Earlier on, Councillor Burser, I'll talk about this business that we can save.

[1:15:44] At the end of the day, if we can save two or three more businesses, by giving them

[1:15:50] a loan, and that's the key word, it's a loan.

[1:15:54] That money isn't given away, it's a loan.

[1:15:57] So yeah, that's why I seconded the motion because if we can save two, three, five businesses,

[1:16:01] is that's what I want to do and policy be done. The policies are there to guide us,

[1:16:10] not to restrict us. So in this case here, I agree with Councillor Berserot and I seconded

[1:16:18] the motion because I want to see this pass. Thank you. Madam CEO, did you want to comment

[1:16:24] in response to Councillor McIntosh and Councillor Depelle

[1:16:32] with respect to bringing back her

[1:16:35] report, and whether that's in contradiction with having an extension until this Friday

[1:16:42] for applications.

[1:16:45] I think that when we originally brought forward the program to Council, what we had also

[1:16:53] recommended in that process was to allow administration to review those applications.

[1:17:00] And by doing so very quickly, we were hoping that we'd be able to get funds out before the end of May.

[1:17:08] And so I'm going to say that that has been successful.

[1:17:12] We're going to be able to do that.

[1:17:13] We also said that we would bring back a report to council with information so they understood how that program worked out.

[1:17:23] So we do all report to council the remaining, some of the remaining applications are up to the 80 were approved today.

[1:17:32] I know that Mrs. Bailey and Ms. McLean met today to continue to work through those applications.

[1:17:40] So that is the update as of this evening.

[1:17:43] I think that we'll be through it before the end of the week.

[1:17:46] It's really, if Council would like to, and I think if people were struggling to make

[1:17:54] the deadline for applications, if the community knows that Council might be reconsidering

[1:17:59] opening up the deadline or doing a round two, then we can get a report ready to come back

[1:18:06] at the next Council meeting, and we could, I think, now that we've been through the program

[1:18:10] as well, we can probably work through that process, again, pretty quickly, a second time

[1:18:16] around. So it's really up to a council to make the decision. I don't think that so from

[1:18:23] a budgeting perspective it is not all loaned by the way. Each application is for $5,000

[1:18:31] and of that $5,000, $1,000 of the loan is forgivable or essentially in the form of a grant.

[1:18:44] I'm not sure

[1:18:46] Thank you, Councillor Vennet.

[1:18:49] Thank you, Madam Mayor.

[1:18:51] I'm hearing both sides of the argument here and I get both sides so I maybe like to propose

[1:18:56] a bit of a compromise, if it's possible.

[1:19:00] Why don't we, if it's possible to extend the deadline to Friday, but to only gauge the

[1:19:07] interest in extending in the long going forward?

[1:19:12] And then at the next council meeting, administration will come to us and say five people will, five people in that week applied, so if you want to move forward, this is what's going to cost, this is how we're going to fund it.

[1:19:24] Rather than skip past policies and we're not shutting it down, we'll just have a better idea what we're talking about in two weeks time.

[1:19:31] So I don't know if the original mover, how he feels about that, but I think a compromise at the very least would answer a lot of the questions that are being asked.

[1:19:42] Councillor Berserot?

[1:19:45] As far as I understand, we have not exhausted all the funds that we have already said aside,

[1:19:50] which is the purpose of this motion. One in six businesses are already saying they're

[1:19:55] going to close another two weeks and two months.

[1:20:04] Councillor Bennett, do you have any response?

[1:20:07] It's my understanding that with the applications that we still need to be gone through, that the

[1:20:12] money could very well be all spent.

[1:20:14] So if we're going to ask for more money, then perhaps we should just open it up to gauge the interest.

[1:20:24] And at the next meeting we'll know exactly how much more than the 500,000 we're going to need to deal with.

[1:20:32] Thank you, Councillor Grant.

[1:20:38] I'm trying to keep my cool because we're talking about policies that has,

[1:20:46] As there's no such thing as a policy, it's procedural bylaws.

[1:20:51] We have a motion on the books that says these are the criteria.

[1:20:57] If we want to change that, we put an amendment to that, with specifics to give direction

[1:21:04] to administration, where the money's coming from, etc.

[1:21:08] I don't like any of this are against helping the business people.

[1:21:12] But we've got a procedure by law here that we have to follow.

[1:21:16] We can't just, someday, well, we'll follow it in the next day we want.

[1:21:21] The clerk is the one that should be giving us guidance on this as far as the procedures go.

[1:21:28] And there's something should have been directed toward her.

[1:21:30] She's the one to ensure that the procedures are followed.

[1:21:35] We have to follow those procedures or change them.

[1:21:38] So the reason I would speak on this, if we followed the proper procedures, we aren't.

[1:21:46] And therefore it is at a border.

[1:21:49] And the clerk, in my estimation, should be indicating that with somebody asked.

[1:21:56] I turn to the CAO.

[1:22:02] Thank you, Madam Mayor.

[1:22:03] So I'm going to acknowledge Councillor Grants' comments and I think you're right.

[1:22:08] And I think that the discussion opened up to talk about this program and there was always

[1:22:15] talk, if we go back several weeks ago, there was always talk about what is the right amount

[1:22:21] of money.

[1:22:22] So initially when the motion was to allow the deadline to extend to use up the utilization

[1:22:27] of those funds, I think that all I'm trying to do is trying to help council continue with

[1:22:37] that program if Council would like to.

[1:22:39] It is pretty straightforward for administration,

[1:22:43] just to have a report to come back in two weeks.

[1:22:48] Most of the applications will get funded this week.

[1:22:50] We turn the program around pretty quickly.

[1:22:53] I don't believe a two week delay would really

[1:22:57] change the world.

[1:22:59] So that's just my comments if we want to refer it back

[1:23:02] to the clerk.

[1:23:02] I think the clerk would agree with you, Councillor Grant.

[1:23:04] the way the motion has been kind of moved around and now it's turning into

[1:23:09] additional funding. I would agree that procedurally it's moving in a

[1:23:16] direction that I don't believe was originally how the discussion started. It

[1:23:22] started as an update on the program. You don't mind the name there? Councillor

[1:23:28] Grant? I think that's a good way of doing it. We're waiting for a report back and

[1:23:33] And that was I think part of the discussion at the time.

[1:23:37] Is there an urgency in this?

[1:23:39] I don't think there is, but I'd be open if the report comes back to help businesses.

[1:23:46] I don't think anybody's arguing that.

[1:23:48] Let's follow procedures.

[1:23:49] That's all I'm saying.

[1:23:51] Any further comment on this before I turn to-

[1:23:55] Not away.

[1:23:56] Before I turn to Councillor Berserot, any further comment from any other Councillor?

[1:24:00] So,

[1:24:03] I will agree with Madam CIO, I think that we're saying the same thing.

[1:24:14] We're all saying the same thing.

[1:24:16] We all want to support businesses.

[1:24:20] The extension of the deadline to Friday just makes sense because we're still in this

[1:24:25] period of time where we're asking businesses if they need our support.

[1:24:30] So, it's logical to extend that to May 15th or May 29th.

[1:24:40] So, my understanding of the motion is that we're going to extend the deadline to this Friday,

[1:24:47] and that the CAO has indicated that administration will report back.

[1:24:52] Administration told us the first time that they presented this program, that they would close it,

[1:24:58] give a deadline and then come back to talk to us about further applications or further

[1:25:04] uptake. So this is not a surprising conversation that we're having now. So to me, it's the

[1:25:11] same thing. And the other point that I want to make is we do have to proceed quickly and

[1:25:18] we don't want to be confusing there for the public. So the public knows that we've had

[1:25:22] this deadline if we extended this week and then come back to council with a report as to

[1:25:28] how many applications came in after that date, how to deal with the two that were late,

[1:25:34] and then we'll have information as to what impact that's going to have on our brown field

[1:25:39] reserve. I'm comfortable with this motion as it is. I'm comfortable that it makes sense

[1:25:46] from a time flow and I'm comfortable that we will get the information that we need so that

[1:25:51] But we continue to make responsible decisions as we have been throughout this entire pandemic.

[1:26:00] Councillor Berserot.

[1:26:03] Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor.

[1:26:05] I'm actually closer to Councillor Grant's general philosophy than maybe, maybe foresee.

[1:26:15] If this motion is out of order, I will withdraw.

[1:26:18] But I will heard that.

[1:26:20] What I understand, look, our businesses, one in six are closing right now, and time

[1:26:27] to move is right now.

[1:26:28] If it needs to be a new business motion, instead of as per this conversation, so be it,

[1:26:34] I'll make the motion.

[1:26:35] No problem.

[1:26:36] But two weeks from now, we're talking about other businesses who need this money already

[1:26:42] being closed.

[1:26:43] And that to me, in the state of emergency, is just unacceptable.

[1:26:45] So if the motion is out of order, have no problem with it, but it's a great example of how bureaucracy and process may be having a very, very serious impact on the businesses in our community.

[1:27:04] So I'm going to call for the vote.

[1:27:08] Madam Clerk,

[1:27:12] the motion is to extend the deadline for the municipal grants about applications to Friday, May 29th.

[1:27:23] On the phone, in favour?

[1:27:26] In favour?

[1:27:27] Councillor Vergil, against?

[1:27:32] Councillor Depelle?

[1:27:34] I'm in favour because of the business, but I would have liked to see it as a new business

[1:27:39] motion, but I don't want to vote against extending the deadline, so in favour?

[1:27:44] Understood, Councillor Depelle.

[1:27:46] In the room, in favour?

[1:27:50] Against?

[1:27:53] Madam Clerk, about that?

[1:27:55] Carried.

[1:27:58] Thank you all for your patience.

[1:27:59] questions.

[1:28:02] Any other reports from committees of council?

[1:28:09] Councillor Grant. I just wanted to as part of the board of

[1:28:15] management at the lodge, talk about how well that place has been run and that we tested

[1:28:25] all the employees and the residents and everything come back negative and I think it's really

[1:28:32] do to the efficiency of the employees in that place and how well they started monitoring

[1:28:41] everybody who was going in as well as the employees.

[1:28:44] So, you know, the lodge we run this, so I know our committee of management, the team,

[1:28:52] is really, really proud of what has taken place there and I think most of us have given

[1:28:59] and Steven Kudos for that then a general manager.

[1:29:02] So I just want to talk about very good positive relationships there.

[1:29:08] Thank you.

[1:29:09] Who else sits with you on the committee of management?

[1:29:13] Do either of you want to comment?

[1:29:20] Mike, I second Cal State Grants comments and I'd also commend the city administration because with redeploying employees

[1:29:31] to places where they might be needed if they can't do their usual work.

[1:29:36] I think that helped sustain the system and get us the track record we've got there.

[1:29:42] And it's wonderful that the employees from parks and rec, for example,

[1:29:46] would pick up a broom and sweep a floric, then start on lodge.

[1:29:50] So good all around.

[1:29:52] Thank you.

[1:29:52] Councillor McIntosh?

[1:29:54] Not just the lodge, the entire city.

[1:29:56] we've had 15 cases since March 12th.

[1:30:00] There's nothing. Prescott Russell has probably put 125, SDNG 22. We have no deaths. We're really unique. I understand Kingston also is in the same position, but we've been so fortunate here and it goes back to the screening process. Not only in the lodge, but I think all the facilities that have seniors. Madam CEO, did you want to add any comments? I know you've worked closely with Mr. Golden throughout this period of time. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

[1:30:29] Yes, I would really like to commend the employees of the Glenn Stern and Lodge.

[1:30:34] I think that the protocols that they had in place certainly have paid off.

[1:30:39] I also think that there's truly a commitment amongst the employees to make sure that they're screening themselves.

[1:30:45] And they're coming to work healthy, absolutely with the residents health and

[1:30:50] So I think that I would echo those comments as far as the city overall.

[1:30:59] Yes, I think we have been fortunate.

[1:31:02] I do think very early on there was a lot more awareness in our community,

[1:31:09] maybe partially because of the passengers from one of the cruise ships that stayed at the nav center.

[1:31:16] But I think between communication, our first responders, Dr. Paul, I also would like to recognize

[1:31:23] the mayor with much communication.

[1:31:26] Emma Meldrum also is sitting us with getting stuff out in the media on the website, looking

[1:31:33] at signage.

[1:31:34] I think we tried to do as much as we could to try and promote physical distancing, social

[1:31:39] distancing.

[1:31:40] seen, so I'm hoping that that is paid off for certainly for our community and our long-term

[1:31:46] care residents. So thank you.

[1:31:49] No, thank you for those comments. Glenn Stortenlaunch has been priority from day one. So thank

[1:31:55] you, Councillor Grant, for bringing that up and allowing us to properly thank all of the

[1:32:00] staff at Glenn Stortenlaunch.

[1:32:03] Madam Clerk.

[1:32:06] Madam Mayor, we skipped over a new business that was at the bottom of the page just before

[1:32:10] the bylaws. Yes. If we could do that now. Go ahead. Are there any new business motions?

[1:32:18] Councillor McIntosh. I have one. I want just to preface it. These have certainly been

[1:32:25] extraordinary times. Our lives have been turned upside down. Here we are meeting in the complex

[1:32:31] way from home. We become orphans. You know, I've watched the leadership of both

[1:32:41] Federal and Provincially, and I am amazed and marvel how everybody's come

[1:32:45] together on like south of the border. You know, good teams, professional teams have

[1:32:51] built from the top to the bottom. And I think we've been fortunate here to have a

[1:32:57] a team that's well built from the top to the bottom.

[1:33:01] And with that, I'd like to present this motion

[1:33:03] that council gives to all marine atoms

[1:33:06] and our senior management team

[1:33:08] a vote of confidence for their leadership

[1:33:09] and dedication during COVID-19 crisis.

[1:33:14] Is there a seconder for that motion?

[1:33:16] Councilor Elaine McDonald, any further discussion?

[1:33:21] Comments?

[1:33:26] You said it all.

[1:33:27] What about on the phone?

[1:33:28] Councilor Depelle and Councilor Bersroom?

[1:33:31] Yes, sir. Can you reread with the New Jersey City Council?

[1:33:38] Councillor McIntosh. Second take. That council give CAO Marine

[1:33:43] Adams and her senior management team a vote of confidence for their leadership and dedication

[1:33:48] during the COVID-19 crisis.

[1:33:52] And it was seconded by Councillor Elaine McDonald.

[1:33:55] Councillor Dupel.

[1:33:59] I just think it's great as Miss Adams has

[1:34:02] I think it goes right across the board to all our employees across the city, but certainly

[1:34:10] I have been very pleased to see the leadership from Miss Adam, from yourself Madam Mayor,

[1:34:17] and the communication has all been wonderful and I fully support the motion.

[1:34:24] And would like if the mover, if the mover of the motion wouldn't be offended if we include

[1:34:30] all employees in the corporation of the city because it certainly has been a team effort

[1:34:33] all the way around.

[1:34:35] Councillor Mackintosh.

[1:34:36] Not at all.

[1:34:37] Thank you.

[1:34:38] Morse.

[1:34:38] So that is a friendly amendment, Madam Clerk, and has been accepted.

[1:34:43] As such, any further discussion?

[1:34:46] Yes.

[1:34:47] Oh.

[1:34:48] Councillor Berserot.

[1:34:49] I just don't understand why we would make this motion, I'm happy to support it.

[1:34:57] It just seems, you know, I think the CAO, I think you, Madam Mayor, I think Dr. Paula evolved on a great job.

[1:35:05] I just, I don't really understand why this would be a new business motion.

[1:35:10] I will support it. Hello.

[1:35:16] Madam Clerk.

[1:35:17] As a new business motion, this is appropriate.

[1:35:21] Yes, it is Madam Mayor.

[1:35:23] I will wholeheartedly support this motion and I don't want to start tripping up on all

[1:35:35] kinds of particular rules that are going to prevent us from having appropriate conversation

[1:35:44] during a pandemic.

[1:35:45] And during a pandemic, it's a good idea to react quickly to make sure that vulnerable people

[1:35:52] are being cared for, that small businesses are being cared for, and also that city leadership

[1:35:56] is also being cared for and recognize publicly. This is a pandemic, and this kind of conversation

[1:36:03] is perfectly appropriate. So we thank you, Madam CAO, and the senior management team, and

[1:36:09] all the city of Cornwall employees. Thank you. I'm going to call for a vote.

[1:36:16] Councillor

[1:36:17] Grant, did you want to add any comment? I think that we should recognize the unions as

[1:36:24] well because, of course, if we're going from one area to the other and my understanding

[1:36:31] is, there's been very little, the labor relations have been very good so I think the unions

[1:36:38] have a part to play in that as well and so I think they should be acknowledged as well.

[1:36:44] From day one, union leadership has worked in partnership, recognizing the emergency situation

[1:36:51] and recognizing that everybody had to come to the table to do good for residents.

[1:36:57] All in favor of this motion?

[1:37:00] Against?

[1:37:01] In favor.

[1:37:03] Thank you.

[1:37:04] Thank you, carried.

[1:37:07] Madam Clerk.

[1:37:09] We have one notice of motion.

[1:37:11] Limit on new business motions.

[1:37:13] Whereas currently there is no limit on the number of notices of motion and

[1:37:17] new business motions for submitting at a regular council meeting by a Councillor and no deadline.

[1:37:24] Therefore, be it resolved that each Councillor be limited to a maximum of two notices of motion and new business motions combined,

[1:37:31] presented at a regular council meeting.

[1:37:34] Therefore, be it further resolved that each notice of motion and new business motion shall have a seconder prior to submitting it to the clerk.

[1:37:42] Therefore, be it further resolved that notices of motion and new business motions shall be delivered to the clerk no later than 12 noon on the Tuesday preceding the date of the intended regular scheduled council meeting so that it may be included as part of the agenda package and so that proper notice can be given to the public.

[1:38:01] The seconder is?

[1:38:03] It is moved by Councillors Claude McIntosh and Sig Garner.

[1:38:08] Thank you, so that will be debated at the next council meeting.

[1:38:10] That is correct. Thank you. Next item.

[1:38:16] The pending business listing for May 25th is being presented to Council to be received.

[1:38:21] Moved by Councillor Bennett, seconded by Councillor Mcdonald. All in favour? Oh, Councillor

[1:38:28] Bennett? Yes? Sorry, Madam Mayor. I just have a question about only because there's

[1:38:37] There's light up on here that has a 2B determined date on it, but it may be very relevant to what we're going through with our downtown Lavalaj areas, which is the place making, which was kind of an idea that was designed to get people into our downtown, our Lavalaj areas.

[1:38:52] I would think that the BIAs would probably be interested in this as well, so I know you have a lot on your plate, and I know you're doing a lot of things, but I just want to make sure that this is an idea that might help us in attracting people back to our downtowns,

[1:39:07] and things started to loosen up a little bit, and I just didn't want it to get lost in the new business listing because of everything else we're dealing with, which is a lot, but I think this is something that would stand out that may be a big help to both those areas.

[1:39:21] I'll just turn to Madam CEO for a comment or Mr. Bollo, I'll leave it to you Madam CEO.

[1:39:27] Thank you Madam Mayor, maybe I'll put in a couple of comments and Mr. Bollo could comment.

[1:39:31] So we have moved this list around in dates quite a bit, trying to, I think, try and prioritize items with respect to things that need to kind of get going sooner and also understanding council's priorities.

[1:39:46] With respect to that item, I believe that prior to the pandemic following that presentation a council, I believe that there have been some discussions and administration has been

[1:40:00] And looking at opportunities for that, I do think that there's an opportunity for a report to come back to council relatively soon, but I'm going to hand it over to Mr.

[1:40:12] Buello to see if he wanted to add any comments.

[1:40:16] So Mr. Buello, just to recap, we were looking at the unfinished business list and Councillor Bennett brought up the place making item.

[1:40:25] and maybe asking about whether that could inform some of the work that's being done now for a downtown.

[1:40:34] So through you, Madam Mayor, the place making I believe is very much in line with what we're talking about today,

[1:40:45] especially with respect to the pedestrian space that we have in the downtown and making better use of it.

[1:40:53] But I think the request that came to us was looking at things like activity within parking spaces,

[1:41:03] activity perhaps on pedestrian surfaces within the courtyards.

[1:41:08] And I really think that that's one of the things that we're fortunate to have in the downtown.

[1:41:14] Not only do we have what we have in the right of way, but

[1:41:20] But we also, in fact, also in each of the blocks, have courtyard space that I think is very useful.

[1:41:26] So I recall as well, there was a conversation in the place making request, which was to look at our intersections and

[1:41:34] what we may be able to do in that respect.

[1:41:37] So this is really a sort of a concerted effort between infrastructure as well as our area.

[1:41:46] to look at how we can make better use of the space that we have.

[1:41:51] We have a unique downtown, and I think we can, you know, as I said in the report,

[1:41:58] we can do a better job of trying to get people to realize that they can make better use of the outdoor space.

[1:42:06] We're in an unusual time right now where, you know, if you have a thousand square feet,

[1:42:12] and really, quite honestly, if you have a thousand square feet, you probably only have about three, four, five hundred square feet of net space, and that is, you take all the shelving away.

[1:42:23] So, a lot of the retailers downtown, I think, as much as we think the restaurants want to make use of this space, I think retail is going to not have enough space.

[1:42:33] So, I think it's also the retail that needs to look at opportunities in the outdoors.

[1:42:40] We're starting to get some inquiries for that, but I do want the businesses out there

[1:42:48] to know that we're happy to work with them.

[1:42:51] And if it's the $370 application fee, we'll bring a report to council to say that apparently

[1:42:59] that's an obstacle. And if it's a little bit more assistance with how to get through the application and all of that, we're happy to do that. I would like to, I was involved with in 91 with the creation of how that happened together, of course, I was a young planner back in the day, but we had expectations that people would make very good use of that space.

[1:43:23] I would say that, you know, again, if you look at the report, it's unfortunate in some cases that the nature of the use that is adjacent to open space, it doesn't match always.

[1:43:37] And you can't figure that out when you're trying to design a road and imagine what may occur next to a larger bump out.

[1:43:48] So anyway, so I just, in conclusion, I think we're happy to bring more information about

[1:43:56] place making, both from our department as well as municipal works and infrastructure.

[1:44:02] We're having the conversation now in the reports that we're bringing to you exactly on that

[1:44:07] subject.

[1:44:09] Perfect.

[1:44:10] Thank you.

[1:44:14] All in favor?

[1:44:17] On the phone?

[1:44:18] In favor?

[1:44:19] In favor?

[1:44:21] Thank you.

[1:44:23] Madam Clerk.

[1:44:24] Madam Clerk.

[1:44:27] We have our confirming bylaw looking for a motion, Madam Mayor.

[1:44:30] Moved by Councillor Bennett, seconded by Councillor Gardner.

[1:44:34] On the phone, all in favour?

[1:44:36] All in favour?

[1:44:37] In favour?

[1:44:38] In favour?

[1:44:39] In the room?

[1:44:41] All in favour?

[1:44:42] Carried.

[1:44:46] adjourned.

[1:44:46] So, before we adjourn, I'd just like to do a little recap.

[1:44:51] the CAO and myself will discuss an economic recovery task force and move forward with some terms of...

[1:45:04] I would like to thank the clerk and CAO and Mr. Lavalle. I'm told did some incredible technical

[1:45:17] work setting up all of this intense physical distancing space. We are grateful for all of

[1:45:28] the work and we know that there's a lot of work that went into this setup.

[1:45:31] It was also submitted to Dr. Paul Rameleotis and he reviewed the pictures and the setup

[1:45:37] and formally indicated to myself and Ms. Adams that this meets the physical distancing rules

[1:45:43] and all of the regulations.

[1:45:45] As you know, I've communicated with all of you because I need your feedback on video conferencing

[1:45:51] so we're going to continue to investigate that.

[1:45:53] We may have committee meetings through using that service, so that's something that we're

[1:45:58] going to continue.

[1:46:00] So it's an ongoing conversation that's not put to bed, that continues, and I am seeking

[1:46:06] consensus on that issue, so that we can come to a place where all of us are comfortable

[1:46:12] with the way that we proceed around council meetings and any and all other meetings during

[1:46:18] this pandemic and beyond.

[1:46:19] And motion to adjourn.

[1:46:23] Councillor Ebert and Councillor Grant, all in favour?

[1:46:27] Carried on the phone?

[1:46:28] Councillor Ebert.

[1:46:29] Councillor Ebert.

[1:46:30] Councillor Ebert.

[1:46:31] Thank you to all of you.

[1:46:33] Take care.

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