[2:31] If y

[2:32] all give us just a minute.

[2:34] Oh, there we go. All right, so

[2:35] we will. We

[2:37] ll call our AUGUST

[2:38] 24th meeting to order. We

[2:39] welcome those who join us in

[2:40] the audience, those who will

[2:46] also, uh. Those who are also

[2:48] joining us remote. We welcome

[2:50] you at this time, as with every

[2:51] meeting, we would like to start

[2:53] with our invocation and prayer.

[2:54] We have Apostle APRIL Hightower

[2:56] of the New Salem International

[2:57] Ministries. Apostle Hightower,

[2:58] if you would, if we could

[3:00] please stand for the prayer

[3:01] immediately following. If we

[3:02] could repeat the Pledge of

[3:07] Allegiance.

[3:09] Gracious father, we paused at

[3:10] the beginning of this gathering

[3:12] to recognize the

[3:14] responsibilities, duties, and

[3:16] assignment given to our mayor

[3:18] and the City Council. MAY those

[3:19] who serve in this chamber be

[3:21] guided by wisdom, integrity,

[3:23] fairness, and courage. Give

[3:24] them the ability to listen

[3:26] carefully. Consider diverse

[3:27] perspectives, and make

[3:29] decisions with the well-being

[3:30] of our entire community in

[3:32] mind. MAY they remember that

[3:33] behind every policy and every

[3:36] decision, our people, families,

[3:38] children, seniors, veterans,

[3:39] workers, business owners,

[3:41] students, neighbors, and

[3:43] individuals from many cultures,

[3:44] backgrounds, and traditions

[3:46] that rely on their decision

[3:47] making ability to enhance the

[3:49] future of our great city. Help

[3:51] us to build a city where every

[3:52] person is treated with dignity

[3:54] and respect, where differences

[3:55] do not divide us, but broaden

[3:57] our understanding where

[3:58] opportunity is pursued with

[3:59] fairness and where compassion

[4:01] guides our response to those

[4:03] who are experiencing

[4:04] difficulty. Grant our elected

[4:06] leaders patience when

[4:07] challenges are difficult,

[4:09] humility when perspectives

[4:10] differ, and wisdom to seek

[4:12] common ground without

[4:13] compromising the principle of

[4:15] justice and human dignity that

[4:17] represents our creator. Your

[4:19] word reminds us to seek wisdom,

[4:20] to pursue justice, to love

[4:22] mercy, and to walk humbly. MAY

[4:24] those principles guide the work

[4:25] that takes place in this

[4:26] chamber on today, that

[4:28] contribute to a safer,

[4:29] stronger, compassionate

[4:31] and united Fayetteville. Bless

[4:32] the mayor, the city council,

[4:34] city officials, employees, and

[4:36] all who contribute to the life

[4:37] and future of our community.

[4:39] Give them clarity when

[4:40] decisions are difficult

[4:42] patients, when opinions differ,

[4:43] and discernment to recognize

[4:45] solutions that strengthen the

[4:47] entire community and everything

[4:48] we give you thanks and praise

[4:51] with gratitude. Humbleness for

[4:52] the opportunity to serve your

[4:54] people with hope for the future

[4:55] of our city. MAY we move

[4:57] forward together in peace. In

[4:58] your name. We prayerfully

[5:00] submit this petition on behalf

[5:02] of our leaders as we trust you

[5:04] throughout this process. Amen.

[5:04] Amen.

[5:05] Very good.

[5:07] I pledge allegiance to.

[5:08] The flag..

[5:10] United States of. America and

[5:12] to the Republic for which it

[5:13] stands.

[5:16] One nation under GOD,

[5:18] indivisible, with liberty and

[5:19] justice for all.

[5:21] Pastor Hightower, thank you for

[5:22] that wonderful prayer. I have

[5:24] known you for a long time.

[5:24] You

[5:26] re doing great work in your

[5:27] ministry on Murchison Road with

[5:29] the after school care and some

[5:30] of the other things that you

[5:30] re

[5:31] doing, tell the audience a

[5:32] little bit about yourself and

[5:33] your ministry.

[5:35] Yes, sir. My name is Apostle

[5:38] APRIL Hightower. I bring you

[5:39] greetings on behalf of New

[5:41] Salem International Ministries,

[5:44] located at 4006 Murchison Road,

[5:45] right here in the GOD Bless

[5:46] City of Fayetteville, North

[5:48] Carolina. The focus and purpose

[5:50] of our ministry is to teach

[5:51] biblical principles and

[5:52] strategies that

[5:53] s going to

[5:54] challenge you to change in

[5:55] order to improve your quality

[5:58] of life and for specific areas,

[5:59] spiritual growth, community and

[6:01] economic development, housing,

[6:03] as well as educational

[6:05] excellence. On this weekend,

[6:07] our community and we are

[6:08] inviting the entire city of

[6:09] Fayetteville to come out. We

[6:10] re

[6:11] having a Community Giveback

[6:13] Back to School program, where

[6:13] we

[6:15] re going to have free

[6:15] haircuts. We

[6:16] re giving away

[6:17] school supplies. We

[6:17] re also

[6:19] giving away food, clothing, and

[6:20] we

[6:22] re also going to have, um,

[6:24] information concerning our

[6:25] upcoming private school, New

[6:27] Salem Christian Academy, that

[6:29] will be opened up in the 2027,

[6:31] 2028 school year. So we

[6:31] ll be

[6:32] giving our information

[6:34] concerning that. So you all are

[6:35] welcome to come if you

[6:35] re not

[6:37] busy this Saturday from 10 to

[6:38] 3.

[6:39] Alright. Thank you. Can we give

[6:41] Pastor Hightower, Pastor

[6:41] Hightower around.

[6:45] The floor? Pastor.

[6:46] Apostle Hightower.

[6:49] What time would that be?

[6:50] 10:00 to 3:00.

[6:51] Ten. Okay. All right.

[6:53] All right. Well, thank you so

[6:54] much, Apostle. Thank you for

[6:55] that wonderful prayer. Uh,

[6:58] Council, as we move to the next

[7:01] item, we have the

[7:02] announcements. I will go to

[7:04] Council Member Jones.

[7:05] Thank you, MR. Mayor. I just

[7:07] want to take a few moments to

[7:10] acknowledge my other half. Um,

[7:11] she started a journey with me

[7:13] right after undergraduate

[7:15] school. She was a Winston-Salem

[7:16] state ram. I was a Fayetteville

[7:17] State Bronco. Didn

[7:17] t hold that

[7:20] against her. Uh, but she. I

[7:22] decided to to marry this young

[7:24] man at the time. So I

[7:24] m excited

[7:26] to just share that on this

[7:27] Friday, we will be celebrating

[7:30] our 28th wedding anniversary.

[7:31] So I love you, honey. Just

[7:32] wanted to let you know that.

[7:37] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[7:39] Your smart man, sir. Uh,

[7:40] COUNCILMAN Here.

[7:42] Thank you. Mayor. Uh, I would

[7:46] like to reiterate from. I was

[7:47] trying to get it all on on my

[7:48] kid. Yeah. I just want

[7:51] reiterate from last week that,

[7:53] um, this weekend, that

[7:57] Saturday, the 29th, from 10

[8:00] A.M. To 3 P.M., we will be

[8:03] having the 34th annual Youth

[8:05] Mojo Festival that will be in

[8:08] the, um, Smith or Seabrook

[8:11] Park, and we hope that you will

[8:12] come out there and enjoy the

[8:13] unity time and bring your

[8:13] family. It

[8:14] s going to be a big

[8:16] day of food trucks, and you can

[8:17] get your blood pressure

[8:19] checked. And just a whole lot

[8:21] of great health and fun times.

[8:23] And for those of you that have

[8:25] not, uh, registered to vote,

[8:26] you will also have an

[8:30] opportunity to do that with the

[8:33] naacp, naacp, they they will

[8:36] have a table in partnership

[8:38] with, uh, uh, a Omega Psi Phi

[8:39] fraternity, the Beta Chi

[8:41] chapter. We look forward for

[8:43] you coming out and stopping at

[8:44] our table. Thank you. Mayor.

[8:46] Yes, sir. All right, COUNCILMAN

[8:48] Davis. Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[8:49] I just wanted to announce that,

[8:51] uh, Fayetteville is very own

[8:52] Fayetteville. Cumberland Youth

[8:53] Council is having a member

[8:56] interest meeting on SEPTEMBER

[8:59] 3rd, um, from 6:30 P.M. To 8

[9:00] P.M.. Uh, any ninth through

[9:01] 12th graders who are interested

[9:04] in being a voice for your, um,

[9:06] age demographic. Please join

[9:07] them at the Federal Youth

[9:10] Council office at 725 West

[9:12] Rowan Street on SEPTEMBER 3rd,

[9:14] from 630 to 8 P.M.. Thank you,

[9:14] MR. Mayor.

[9:17] Thank you. Um, all right,

[9:18] counselor, seeing no other

[9:19] announcements, I moved 5.0. The

[9:20] city manager

[9:21] s report. Mr.

[9:23] Hewitt.

[9:25] Uh. Thank you, thank you.

[9:25] Mayor.

[9:28] Um, two quick announcements.

[9:29] And both of them are very

[9:31] positive. Um, on this past

[9:32] Wednesday, the Fayetteville

[9:33] Fire Department traveled to

[9:35] Chicago and earned the

[9:37] international accreditation

[9:38] from the Commission on Fire

[9:40] Accreditation International for

[9:42] the fourth time. So if we

[9:43] could, Chief Dove, if you. And

[9:45] when you come up and give your

[9:46] presentation as well, if you

[9:47] could tell the council more

[9:50] about that. But this, uh, the

[9:51] accreditation is a process of

[9:53] self-assessment verified

[9:54] through peer review. And our

[9:56] Fayetteville Fire Department is

[9:58] one of only 127 fire

[10:00] departments on the planet. Wow.

[10:03] To carry the iso class one and

[10:04] internationally accredited

[10:05] recognition. So if.

[10:10] You could. Thank you.

[10:11] Outstanding.

[10:13] The other quick announcement

[10:15] is, um, this past weekend has

[10:17] also been very instrumental as

[10:19] well. Our assistant clerk,

[10:22] Paula Hanbury, um, received her

[10:23] North Carolina certified

[10:26] Municipal Clerk certification.

[10:27] Uh, the certification

[10:29] recognizes municipal clerks

[10:30] have completed over a year

[10:31] professional education and

[10:32] training focused on knowledge

[10:34] and skills essential to

[10:35] effectively serve their

[10:37] communities and pass the

[10:38] required exams. The

[10:39] certification reflects the

[10:41] commitment to professional

[10:42] excellence, continuous

[10:43] learning, and the highest

[10:45] standards of Municipal Clerk

[10:46] Service. So MISS Hamburg.

[10:50] , Paula.

[10:50] That

[10:51] s all sir.

[10:53] All right. Thank you.

[10:55] Congratulations again to Chief

[10:56] Dove and our great fire

[10:57] department. I know we look

[10:57] forward to hearing your

[10:59] presentation tonight, but thank

[11:02] you. Uh, as outstanding, uh, of

[11:04] 127 on the planet. So that

[11:04] s

[11:06] huge. So we thank you. And the

[11:07] hard work that you all do every

[11:08] day. And MISS Paula, certainly

[11:10] atulate you, uh, for

[11:11] your credentials and all the

[11:13] city employees. We have a very

[11:15] hard working, dedicated and

[11:16] qualified team, uh, that work

[11:18] hard day in and day out. A lot

[11:18] of you don

[11:20] t see, uh, all the

[11:22] work that they do behind the

[11:23] scenes to keep the city

[11:24] running. But we thank each and

[11:27] every one of you. So, um, so

[11:28] with that, council will move to

[11:30] the approval of the agenda item

[11:30] 6.0. I

[11:32] ll entertain a motion to

[11:32] approve. We

[11:33] ll use our systems

[11:34] as a motion by Councilmember

[11:36] Hair. Is there a second?

[11:37] Second. All right. We

[11:38] re going

[11:38] to use our short. I heard

[11:40] Councilmember McNair down here.

[11:41] All right. So.

[11:42] Uh.

[11:42] Trying to get it..

[11:44] Any any discussion on the

[11:45] motion. All right. Council look

[11:46] to you for your votes to

[11:49] approve the agenda. All right,

[11:49] MADAM Clerk. It

[11:50] s unanimous.

[11:53] Moving to the consent items.

[11:57] Uh, we, uh, had a couple of, uh,

[12:00] consent item questions. Uh,

[12:04] think Councilmember Jones

[12:07] 7.085. I think. All right. And

[12:09] Council, if you could, uh, put

[12:11] a separate up or down on oh

[12:11] six. I know we

[12:12] ve had this was

[12:14] a continuation. Um, so if we

[12:15] could approve the agenda with

[12:18] those two items. COUNCILMAN

[12:19] Jones, uh, you want to make a

[12:19] motion?

[12:23] Yes. I move to approve the

[12:25] consent agenda. Agenda. With

[12:29] the exception of pulling 7.805

[12:30] and 7.806.

[12:31] All right.

[12:33] There, a second. Second, second

[12:35] by COUNCILMAN Davis. That

[12:35] s all

[12:35] I

[12:36] m sure. System. All right.

[12:38] Discussion on that. All right,

[12:39] counselor, look to you for your

[12:40] votes. This is approved with

[12:41] the exception of those two

[12:45] items. All right. Motion

[12:48] carries, uh, item 7.085. I

[12:48] ll

[12:50] go to you, Councilmember Jones.

[12:52] Thank you so much. Uh, just

[12:54] wanted to provide some clarity,

[12:56] uh, for the for the community

[12:58] in regards to this item. Uh, I

[12:59] am in support of it as it is

[13:01] written, uh, at this time. So I

[13:02] wanted to just provide some

[13:04] additional clarity. So what I

[13:05] want to do, I just want to

[13:06] recap my understanding and you

[13:08] can fill in the gaps. I don

[13:08] t

[13:09] want to take a lot of time. Uh,

[13:11] there were obviously some, some

[13:13] concerns from the community in

[13:15] regards to this particular, uh,

[13:17] rezoning. And so I just wanted

[13:18] to provide some information to

[13:20] address those. Uh, the first

[13:22] aspect of that, uh, it was

[13:24] originally planned to rezone

[13:29] again, about 123 acres from Lee

[13:31] to h. I. And part of that, uh,

[13:33] rezoning, per my understanding,

[13:36] was one, uh, addressing, uh,

[13:37] temporary storage. And then

[13:39] another aspect was some

[13:40] building, uh, modifications

[13:41] there. So those were two

[13:45] things. Uh, so the current, uh,

[13:46] recommendation, which was

[13:48] revised, which I again, I

[13:48] m in

[13:48] approval, I

[13:50] m in, um, agreement

[13:52] with is to reduce that

[13:56] rezoning, uh, down to 61 acres.

[13:58] And that would be for the area

[13:58] there where they

[13:59] re actually

[14:02] going to build the extension of

[14:03] the steel fab, uh,

[14:05] manufacturing. All right. In

[14:06] addition to that, there were

[14:07] some concerns with the Rose

[14:08] s

[14:10] Lake, uh, bed possibly being

[14:11] touched. And then there

[14:12] s a

[14:14] conservative, uh, conservation

[14:16] district out there. And then

[14:18] beyond that, there was a layer

[14:19] of trees there and just

[14:21] providing some visuals. Uh, so,

[14:22] as currently met, the Rose

[14:22] s

[14:24] Lake Lake bed will not be

[14:25] touched. The conservation

[14:26] district, they have agreed to

[14:29] keep that in place, uh, as

[14:30] Yes, COUNCILMAN. That

[14:31] s all

[14:31] correct.

[14:32] All right. And then thirdly,

[14:34] this should address the aspect

[14:36] of ownership. Uh, this isn

[14:36] t

[14:37] this isn

[14:38] t an odd, uh,

[14:39] situation. It

[14:39] s something that

[14:41] actually occurs very frequently

[14:42] within real estate, where if

[14:42] someone doesn

[14:44] t necessarily,

[14:46] uh, own a property, they can do

[14:49] an affirmation of an affidavit

[14:51] of ownership. Is that correct?

[14:52] Correct. That happens almost

[14:54] every rezoning. We do.

[14:54] Yes. And it

[14:55] s not just big

[14:56] organization, it

[14:56] s smaller

[14:57] ones. It

[14:58] s smaller businesses

[15:00] as well. And basically I just

[15:01] wanted the community know it

[15:01] s

[15:02] hey, I want to I

[15:03] m wanting to

[15:05] buy this land before I buy it.

[15:06] I want to make sure that I can

[15:08] do what I need to do with it.

[15:08] And it

[15:09] s no different than if I

[15:10] was opening a a salon or

[15:12] something, somewhere. I want to

[15:13] make sure that I can get that.

[15:15] So that had just been, uh, in

[15:17] place, uh, thirdly, fourthly,

[15:19] and the last aspect, part of a

[15:21] small portion of their

[15:23] operations, uh, would be moved

[15:26] from the front of Steel Fab,

[15:27] which is right there, located

[15:28] near one of my Whispering Pines

[15:30] community, uh, to the back. So

[15:32] that was a plus for this

[15:33] particular community. I

[15:33] ve,

[15:33] I

[15:36] ve spoken with, uh, those of,

[15:37] uh, Whispering Pines, and we

[15:39] just had our Hillandale West

[15:40] meeting as well. And I know

[15:42] some of the individuals, uh,

[15:44] did go to the zoning commission

[15:46] as well to voice their

[15:47] concerns. And so I just wanted

[15:48] to provide that. So if there

[15:48] s

[15:49] any aspects that I

[15:50] ve missed

[15:51] that would provide some

[15:53] clarity, uh, on some things, if

[15:54] you would do that, that, that

[15:55] would I would greatly

[15:56] appreciate it.

[15:57] I think, COUNCILMAN, you you

[15:59] covered it pretty well right

[16:00] there. I think you

[16:00] ve you

[16:00] ve

[16:02] been pretty much involved in

[16:04] this, uh, for a while. So, you

[16:05] know, well what

[16:06] s been going on

[16:08] and what the concerns are out

[16:09] there.

[16:10] Okay. All right. And, MR.

[16:10] Mayor, I

[16:12] ll be ready to make a

[16:12] motion.

[16:13] Yes, sir. It

[16:13] s on you.

[16:14] All right, so I

[16:15] m moved.

[16:19] To approve the. Amended map

[16:21] amendment to heavy industrial

[16:22] and retaining the current city

[16:24] area as presented on the

[16:25] evidence based submitted and

[16:27] findings that the rezoning is

[16:28] consistent with the future land

[16:30] use plan, as demonstrated by

[16:32] the attached consistency and

[16:34] reasonable statement.

[16:34] All right. Motion by

[16:36] Councilmember Jones looks like.

[16:39] Second by hair. Discussion. All

[16:40] right, counselor, look to you

[16:45] for your votes on oh five.

[16:47] Good question sir. Good

[16:48] questions.

[16:49] MADAM Clerk. Can we MISS..

[16:51] Council Member Ferguson.

[16:56] Pardon? What are you doing now?

[16:57] Okay. All right. Motion carries

[16:59] you. Thank you. All right.

[17:02] Thank you. Uh, 7.06 is a

[17:04] continuation of a special use

[17:08] permit. Um, that, uh, we heard

[17:10] a few weeks back, um, asked

[17:11] this item to be pulled for a

[17:14] separate vote. Um, special use

[17:16] permit just to our audience.

[17:18] Uh, are basically governed by,

[17:20] uh, state statute, which says

[17:22] that there are a number of

[17:24] findings of facts. Six in this

[17:26] case, um, that, uh, sworn

[17:31] testimony in, uh, uh, evidence,

[17:35] uh, either support or, uh, or

[17:37] do not support or build a case

[17:40] to support or not support, um,

[17:42] these findings and facts for

[17:43] counsel. So counsel wanted a

[17:45] separate vote for this for

[17:47] consent. Um, and uh, with that

[17:49] can entertain a motiono

[17:51] consider this item unless there

[17:52] were some further questions.

[17:53] COUNCILMAN Hondros.

[17:55] So move, MR. Mayor.

[17:56] Move to approve.

[17:56] All right. Motion by

[17:58] Councilmember Hondros. And that

[18:01] is to approve, sir. Yes. All

[18:02] right. And it

[18:02] s a it

[18:03] s a

[18:04] special use. Does he have to

[18:06] read these findings? Okay. All

[18:06] right. So the motion by

[18:08] COUNCILMAN Hondros, is there a

[18:10] second? Seconded by

[18:12] Councilmember Green. All right.

[18:13] Discussion. All right.

[18:14] Counselor, look to you for your

[18:21] votes. All right, MADAM Clerk.

[18:22] Motion carries seven three.

[18:25] Those voting oppose Thompson.

[18:28] Colvin, Davis. All right, all

[18:33] right. Moving to public hearing.

[18:37] Uh, at this time, we are

[18:38] preparing to hold a public

[18:39] hearing where the city council

[18:41] formally seeks your input.

[18:43] Individuals desiring to speak

[18:44] in the hearing. MR.. Signed up

[18:45] to speak with the city clerk by

[18:46] name and address before the

[18:47] start of tonight

[18:48] s meeting.

[18:48] We

[18:49] ll begin with the staff

[18:50] presentation. Then we

[18:50] ll move

[18:52] into the formal hearing. 15

[18:53] minutes will be allowed by

[18:54] those in favor and those

[18:56] opposed to the item in the

[18:57] hearing. Individual speakers

[18:59] are limited to three minutes

[19:00] each, unless by previous

[19:01] arrangement. A single

[19:03] spokesperson is designated, in

[19:04] which case the spokesperson MAY

[19:06] use the entire 15 minutes. When

[19:08] the city clerk calls your name,

[19:09] please come to the podium.

[19:10] Please clearly state your name

[19:12] and address for the record. You

[19:13] MAY then begin to address the

[19:14] council when the light changes

[19:16] from green to amber. That means

[19:17] you have approximately 30s

[19:19] remaining and at the conclusion

[19:20] of your time, the timer will

[19:21] ring or the light will turn

[19:22] red. So at this time I

[19:23] ll stop

[19:29] and turn it over to you. Sir.

[19:31] Good evening.

[19:33] Good evening, good evening.

[19:33] Let

[19:43] s get this thing up. Oh.

[19:44] Well, I don

[19:45] t see the

[20:03] presentation now. Thank you.

[20:05] Good evening, MR. Mayor.

[20:08] Members of the council. Um, my

[20:09] name is Scott Walters. I

[20:09] m with

[20:11] the development Services

[20:12] department. Uh, this will be a

[20:15] short presentation on possible

[20:17] text amendments to our sign

[20:19] code specifically related to

[20:21] wall mounted signage, window

[20:24] signage, and the downtown two

[20:26] district. Um, the council has

[20:27] already seen this presentation

[20:29] once before at their work

[20:32] session on JUNE the 1st. Um,

[20:34] the original presentation had

[20:36] seven examples of those seven

[20:38] examples, four were selected by

[20:40] the council to move forward for

[20:46] public hearing. The staff

[20:48] presented the four examples to

[20:50] the Planning Commission, um, at

[20:52] their JULY 21st meeting, uh, as

[20:54] part of the public hearing

[20:56] process and to get their

[20:58] recommendations tonight, we

[20:59] bring it back before the

[21:01] council. Uh, for your

[21:07] consideration. Uh, the first

[21:09] example in this is, uh, for

[21:11] mounted signage. And

[21:11] what we

[21:12] re doing with this

[21:14] example is we would remove the

[21:15] five sign limit that we

[21:17] currently have in place. Uh,

[21:19] and then building mounted

[21:21] signage would only be regulated

[21:24] by the wall area of each side

[21:25] of the building using the

[21:29] increased allowance below. Um,

[21:31] the way it reads, unless

[21:33] otherwise stated, the permitted

[21:35] copy area for building mounted

[21:37] signage shall be calculated as

[21:39] the greater of either. Um.

[21:39] Currently it

[21:42] s 1 to 1. We would

[21:48] increase that to 1.5 to 1, and

[21:50] the second one is 10%

[21:51] currently. And that would

[21:55] increase to 15%. The next is

[21:57] the downtown two district. Uh,

[21:59] this would remove the downtown

[22:00] two districts from the

[22:02] limitations of the subsection

[22:04] below. Uh, and it would place

[22:06] or allow the two district to

[22:09] use the same standards as all

[22:11] other nonresidential districts

[22:13] for building. Building mounted

[22:16] signage currently, the two

[22:20] district is, uh, limited to one

[22:22] exterior building of sign per

[22:27] street front. Example f is

[22:30] windows, signage, and this

[22:32] would remove the limitation on

[22:34] window signage related to walls

[22:36] that have wall signage. Um, it

[22:40] would increase to 100% coverage

[22:41] of the glazed area of every

[22:43] window and door on all sides of

[22:45] the building. Um, and as a side

[22:47] note, the d2 district is

[22:49] already regulated in the same

[22:52] as all other nonresidential

[22:54] districts for windows, signage.

[22:56] Um, below is the current

[22:58] standards, as you see scratched

[23:01] out, uh, 50% of the cumulative

[23:02] square footage of the glazed

[23:04] area. Um, that would increase

[23:09] to 100%. Um, and we would take

[23:10] away, as it says, down there

[23:12] below, shall not exceed the

[23:14] square footage of an installed

[23:16] wall sign. And what that really

[23:17] means is if there

[23:17] s a wall sign

[23:20] up there smaller, then what is

[23:23] allowed for the glazed area.

[23:24] Then you would have to stick

[23:26] with the signage size of the

[23:29] wall sign instead of the. So we

[23:30] were removed. Both of those

[23:32] standards and increase it to

[23:35] 100%. Coverage. Our last

[23:39] example um, and this example,

[23:41] we removed the five sign limit

[23:43] for building mounted signs per

[23:47] building or tenant space. Allow

[23:49] full wall coverage of all

[23:51] building walls. So basically a

[23:53] wall wrap, whether it was one

[23:55] big sign encompassing the whole

[23:57] side of the building or or a

[23:59] wall of the building, uh, or

[24:02] multiple signs, um, on any one

[24:03] side or all sides of the

[24:05] building. And the only

[24:07] regulating um requirement would

[24:08] be that they would be they

[24:10] would be required to have a

[24:11] sign permit for any sign that

[24:18] they did place on the building.

[24:22] The recommendations on JULY

[24:23] 21st, uh, the Planning

[24:25] Commission met and voted five

[24:27] zero to recommend the City

[24:30] Council approve example and c

[24:32] as presented below is the

[24:34] example b as we showed in the

[24:38] first slide. An example c, um,

[24:40] is the downtown two district

[24:46] example. Um, the options here,

[24:49] um, approve uh, with examples

[24:50] of b and c as recommended by

[24:52] the Planning Commission

[24:53] approval some or none of the

[24:55] examples as recommended by the

[24:57] Planning Commission. Um,

[24:59] remaining back to staff was

[25:02] specific verbiage or changes as

[25:04] desired or deny all uh text

[25:18] amendment options.

[25:20] COUNCILMAN.

[25:21] MR. Mayor.

[25:21] There

[25:22] s no question I

[25:22] m not

[25:22] prepared to.

[25:23] The public.

[25:24] Hearing. All right.

[25:26] That will open the public

[25:26] hearing.

[25:27] MADAM Clerk.

[25:28] Mayor, we have no speakers for

[25:29] this item.

[25:30] That will.

[25:30] Close the public hearing.

[25:32] COUNCILMAN Hondros, there

[25:32] s no

[25:33] questions, MR. Mayor. I

[25:33] m

[25:34] prepared to make a motion. Yes,

[25:37] sir. I move to approve, um,

[25:42] examples b, c and f. All right.

[25:44] Motion by Councilmember Hondros

[25:45] to approve. Is there a second

[25:46] by Councilmember Davis? I

[25:48] believe I on the system

[25:50] discussion. All right. Council

[25:51] looks to you for your votes on

[25:59] this item. All right, MADAM

[26:01] Clerk. Uh, that is approved

[26:03] voting opposition mayor pro

[26:08] tem. All right. Uh, 8.02. Uh,

[26:15] MR. Van Jones, robo.

[26:17] Good evening. Mayor. Council.

[26:18] Pleasure to be with you here

[26:26] tonight.

[26:26] I don

[26:27] t know, it

[26:27] s right. I

[26:27] m a

[26:30] pdf. I got it now, I did that,

[26:31] I did that last time. Apologies

[26:36] there for the brief delay. And

[26:37] so you have before you. We

[26:38] re

[26:39] happy to be back again with

[26:40] another applicant for the Candu

[26:42] performance financing program.

[26:45] Uh, tonight we have one project

[26:45] in front of you, but I think

[26:46] it

[26:46] s a really great one, the

[26:47] one that we

[26:47] ve been working

[26:49] with for some time. As you MAY

[26:51] recall, this program was

[26:52] developed to advance city

[26:52] s

[26:53] goal of increasing the number

[26:55] and diversity of local vendors

[26:57] available to you and

[26:59] institutional, uh, uh,

[27:00] institutions here in the

[27:02] community. Importantly, it is

[27:04] designed to address the typical

[27:05] barriers that keep small

[27:07] companies from growing,

[27:08] especially those in low and

[27:09] moderate income communities.

[27:11] And it overcomes the hurdles of

[27:12] traditional lending. It

[27:12] s

[27:15] administered by the 501 c3, and

[27:16] we have a number of partners

[27:17] that have worked with us

[27:18] throughout this process, and

[27:18] we

[27:20] ll continue to. We launched

[27:22] with $5 million, 2.5 million

[27:23] from the city, 2.5 million from

[27:25] the state, and job creating

[27:27] businesses can apply for up to

[27:29] $750,000 worth of funding. Uh,

[27:31] I would say today a good time

[27:32] to say now

[27:33] s a great time to

[27:35] apply. Uh, go to, uh, can do

[27:37] carolina.Com and you can, uh,

[27:37] and we

[27:37] ll, we

[27:38] ll share the link

[27:39] in a moment there. But we

[27:39] ll be

[27:40] making a push to encourage

[27:41] people to apply for our next

[27:43] round of funding. But if the

[27:44] company creates the required

[27:46] jobs, the funds are treated as

[27:48] a forgivable loan, meaning they

[27:48] don

[27:49] t accrue interest. And they

[27:50] t company move forward

[27:52] and grow. We had 29 unique

[27:54] businesses apply, uh, working

[27:56] through those. We had 17

[27:58] candidates that were within the

[28:00] qualified areas or qualified as

[28:02] into the type of business they

[28:03] were. Even though we can

[28:04] t fund

[28:04] non-profits, a lot of

[28:06] non-profits ask, uh, seven

[28:07] projects were submitted to the

[28:09] investment committee. Uh, six

[28:11] of those went forward with one,

[28:11] I think we

[28:13] re, uh, to seed our

[28:14] partner for reviewing of the

[28:15] financial due diligence. And we

[28:16] had one project that met the

[28:18] scoring criteria for this round

[28:20] of funding. Uh, just as a

[28:22] reminder, the air is in blue

[28:23] and it does change and has

[28:24] changed. There

[28:24] s a new link,

[28:26] but this was the maps that were

[28:28] in place at the time of this

[28:30] round of applications. These

[28:31] are yellow to moderate income

[28:35] census tracts. And again, to

[28:37] qualify they have to be a

[28:40] company that has 15 or fewer

[28:41] businesses, um, employees,

[28:43] sorry, operating in the census

[28:45] tract. And they have to create

[28:48] one job for $25,000, provided

[28:49] with at least 60 of those new

[28:50] hires being from low to

[28:51] moderate income households,

[28:53] they have to pay at least 10%

[28:54] above the local average. Uh,

[28:55] for the positions. By

[28:58] classification, and create 50%

[28:59] of the jobs within 18 months

[29:01] and 100% within five years. Uh,

[29:03] our applicant today that we

[29:03] re

[29:04] pleased to bring forward is

[29:06] Carlos Godwin and Camden

[29:07] Cleaning Solutions. And if you

[29:08] have a moment, we

[29:08] d like to let

[29:10] him have an opportunity to say

[29:11] a little bit about his company

[29:16] and his project. Carlos.

[29:17] Hello, everyone.

[29:18] Good evening. All right.

[29:20] My name is Carlos Godwin. In

[29:22] 2019, I started my commercial

[29:25] cleaning business. Um, of

[29:25] course, it

[29:26] s called Camden

[29:27] Cleaning Solutions and we

[29:27] ve

[29:30] been providing services to many

[29:32] companies around, uh,

[29:33] Fayetteville, um, including

[29:35] Fayetteville State, uh, Fort

[29:37] Liberty, Fort Bragg, and we

[29:37] ve

[29:39] also worked with Seymour

[29:41] Johnson Air Force Base. And

[29:41] today we

[29:43] re asking for approval

[29:47] for $125,000 for capital

[29:49] equipment requests. And these

[29:51] requests are broken down into

[29:53] three different categories. Uh,

[29:54] category number one, we

[29:54] re

[29:55] looking for fleet. So we

[29:55] re

[29:58] looking for $55,000 to purchase

[30:02] 2 to 3. Um, um, utility vans.

[30:06] Um, uh, so that we can deploy

[30:09] more, um, crews simultaneously.

[30:09] We

[30:11] re looking at $28,000 for

[30:13] floor care equipment. This is

[30:14] specifically for our stripping

[30:17] wax, uh, service. Um, so we

[30:17] re

[30:18] looking at purchasing buffers

[30:20] and scrubbers and also tile

[30:21] grout equipment. And then that

[30:25] last, uh, bucket is $42,000 for

[30:26] our specialty equipment. And

[30:27] this is for our pressure

[30:30] washing trailers, our carpet

[30:31] cleaning and carpet extraction,

[30:33] as well as some of our small,

[30:36] um, uh, business equipment,

[30:38] like our mop buckets and our,

[30:40] our carts and, um, and things

[30:41] like that. And we

[30:41] re also

[30:42] looking to invest some of that

[30:44] last bucket into facility

[30:47] changes as well as, um, safety.

[30:50] Um, so this investment is just

[30:52] not going to help with, um, the

[30:54] bottom line. We also want to

[30:57] increase our staffing. So we

[30:57] we

[30:59] re looking at hiring five

[31:01] people, um, over the next five

[31:04] years with three of those, um,

[31:06] to be in the next 18 to 24

[31:07] months. And we

[31:08] re hiring

[31:11] different positions, such asning technicians, floor

[31:14] specialists, um, supervisors,

[31:16] as well as hr representatives.

[31:18] So, uh, again, just a quick,

[31:21] uh, $125,000 request for

[31:23] approval for our capital

[31:24] equipment so that we can

[31:28] improve our, um, our, uh, our

[31:29] business and our and our

[31:31] infrastructure. So I thank you

[31:32] guys for the time and

[31:34] opportunity. I also want to

[31:36] thank the Candu program for

[31:38] helping us go through this this

[31:38] journey.

[31:41] Thank you sir.

[31:41] Yeah.

[31:42] Thank you. Thank you. And I

[31:43] m

[31:43] sure he

[31:44] s happy to answer any

[31:46] questions either now or, uh,

[31:47] during or after the public

[31:47] hearing that

[31:49] s required. Uh, we

[31:50] do respectfully request that

[31:51] you approve these funds. I

[31:52] think importantly for folks,

[31:56] these are to buy the items that

[31:57] allow a company to grow that

[31:58] typically would require a line

[32:00] of credit or some sort of debt

[32:02] instrument that adds interest

[32:03] costs, makes it very hard to

[32:04] purchase equipment, pay the

[32:06] debt, pay your people, do the

[32:07] work and wait to get paid. And

[32:07] that

[32:08] s what the program is

[32:10] designed to do to allow them to

[32:12] get the assets they need to

[32:14] grow. And for people looking

[32:15] for more information they go to

[32:18] can do Carolina fund.Com. We

[32:19] have a new application form

[32:22] going up tonight. And with that

[32:23] thank you for the opportunity

[32:24] to present this tonight. Thank

[32:25] you for the support.

[32:27] All right. Thank you. Uh we

[32:27] ll

[32:28] see any questions at the

[32:28] moment. So with that I

[32:29] ll open

[32:31] up public hearing. MADAM Clerk..

[32:32] Mayor, we have no speakers for

[32:33] this item.

[32:35] All right. So with that, we

[32:37] will close the public hearing

[32:39] and council look to you for a

[32:41] motion. Councilmember Hondros.

[32:43] I have a quick question for the

[32:45] gentleman from Camden. Where

[32:48] is, um, headquarters? Where are

[32:48] you based out of.

[32:49] We

[32:51] re off of, uh, Grove Street,

[32:52] 109 Grove Street.

[32:53] Awesome. Thank you so much.

[32:54] Yes.

[32:55] Councilmember McNair, you had a

[32:56] question. Okay. No, sir.

[32:57] I will if you don

[32:58] t.

[32:59] Councilmember Davis, you had a

[32:59] question.

[33:00] I was prepared to make a

[33:00] motion, sir.

[33:01] That

[33:02] s..

[33:02] Are y

[33:03] all two fighting? What

[33:03] y

[33:03] all doing?

[33:04] No, we were just going to make

[33:05] a motion. Okay, I guess all

[33:06] three of us.

[33:06] Y

[33:06] all don

[33:07] t have to fight over

[33:10] motions in here. All right, um,

[33:10] I saw.

[33:11] That Davis make it.

[33:13] Yes. All right, COUNCILMAN

[33:13] Dave.

[33:15] Thank you, MR. Mayor. I move, I

[33:16] move that we approve. Carlos

[33:18] Godwin and Camden Cleaning

[33:19] Solutions llc for the can

[33:20] t do

[33:21] performance financing funding

[33:25] in the amount of $125,000 and

[33:28] authorize the kdf to release

[33:29] the funds subject to the

[33:32] candidate entering into an

[33:33] incentive agreement. Thank you,

[33:34] MR. Mayor.

[33:35] All right, all right. So let me

[33:36] let me get a second on that

[33:37] motion as a motion by

[33:38] Councilmember Davis, seconded

[33:40] by hair. And that is a district

[33:42] two business, I think he said

[33:42] Grove Street, right?

[33:43] Yes it is.

[33:43] That

[33:44] s why I was kind of quiet.

[33:45] All right.

[33:46] Councilmember.

[33:48] Uh, thank you, mayor. And I

[33:50] like this. I like whenever we

[33:53] can support our, uh, our local

[33:55] business owners right here in

[33:57] Fayetteville. Uh, MR.. Robert,

[33:58] tell me, who does this, who

[34:00] does the verification that

[34:01] everything goes through in

[34:03] accordance to the request

[34:03] tonight?

[34:06] Uh, it is, um, it is a team

[34:07] effort as far as from this

[34:10] point forward. It is our staff

[34:12] working with special counsel,

[34:14] and then we require debt

[34:14] instruments. And then we are

[34:16] also working with paramedics.

[34:17] Who is one of your monitoring

[34:19] groups for the funds that were

[34:20] provided at the time. And city

[34:22] staff is apprised of all the

[34:23] contractual documents that go

[34:25] into it? Uh, everyone enters

[34:26] into a contract, we enter a

[34:27] security agreement, for

[34:28] example, for the vehicles,

[34:28] we

[34:30] ll hold title. Uh, in t

[34:33] case, so should we know? I have

[34:35] good faith in this project. And

[34:36] actually, in all of the

[34:36] companies we

[34:36] ve been working

[34:38] with. But should someone try to

[34:40] do something like sell our

[34:40] vehicle, they wouldn

[34:41] t be able

[34:42] to do that without, uh,

[34:43] without, you know, actually,

[34:44] they would not be able to do

[34:46] that legally. So we do the

[34:47] right things. We can. But we

[34:48] also know that these are small

[34:49] businesses. There

[34:50] s risk

[34:50] involved and they

[34:51] re trying to

[34:52] grow. But it is. We also work

[34:53] with seed. And then when

[34:55] companies need training or

[34:56] upskilling, we work with the

[34:58] hub at fsu or applicants who

[34:59] maybe aren

[34:59] t ready yet. So we

[35:01] do have a variety of different

[35:02] partners throughout.

[35:02] Great. I

[35:04] m glad to hear that

[35:04] and I

[35:05] m ready to vote. Mayor.

[35:06] All right, I have a couple more

[35:07] questions. Councilmember

[35:08] McNair.

[35:09] And I just wanted to say,

[35:11] before we vote to MISTER

[35:14] Carlos, congratulations,

[35:16] because you do have my vote and

[35:16] I

[35:17] m excited for you, you and

[35:18] your new staff.

[35:19] All right, all right.

[35:21] You said we do have a team of

[35:22] experienced financial

[35:24] volunteers that sit on our

[35:25] steering committee. And

[35:26] Michelle Scott here is the one

[35:27] that has to check off and sign

[35:29] off on any piece of paper that

[35:30] comes in before it gets

[35:30] anywhere.

[35:32] Yeah. All right. Councilmember

[35:33] McMillan.

[35:34] Yeah. Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[35:35] Yeah. Encouraged by. This

[35:37] program. I definitely want to

[35:38] see a grow in more applicants.

[35:40] Accepted. Uh, question for robo

[35:42] and then a question for MISTER

[35:43] Camden. Uh, I

[35:43] ll go with MISTER

[35:45] Camden first. How did you find

[35:46] out about this? Uh, this

[35:48] program would encourage you to

[35:49] apply, and then I

[35:49] ll go ahead

[35:51] and give you my my question.

[35:53] Uh, robo, my question for you

[35:53] is just what

[35:55] s the the most

[35:57] common reason for denial for

[35:59] applicants?

[36:01] Well, uh, I was just searching

[36:03] on the, uh, Fayetteville

[36:05] website, and I found it. I

[36:06] really didn

[36:07] t understand what

[36:09] it was. And then I think, I

[36:09] don

[36:10] t know if it was Shayla at

[36:12] the time, but I reached out to

[36:13] one of the, uh, the people in

[36:14] the organization. They were

[36:16] able to inform me. So. And then

[36:18] we just started filling out

[36:19] paperwork and going through the

[36:20] whole process.

[36:23] Okay. Glad that you did. Thank

[36:23] you.

[36:25] And I think today I would say

[36:26] that, uh, it

[36:27] s not so much

[36:29] denial as in, and this is

[36:29] something we

[36:30] re working really

[36:31] hard on by identifying

[36:32] businesses and sending out

[36:33] mailers, now trying new ways to

[36:34] get the word out. And we need

[36:36] as much help as possible on

[36:38] that. This fund is targeted for

[36:40] small, existing businesses to

[36:42] help them grow like you

[36:42] ve got

[36:43] right here, a person who

[36:43] s got

[36:44] full time, you know, working

[36:45] full time with the employees in

[36:46] that we

[36:47] ve had, uh, I

[36:47] d say the

[36:47] challenge we

[36:48] ve had is we

[36:48] ve

[36:50] had a large number of people

[36:51] that haven

[36:52] t yet really gotten

[36:53] started and set up. So we

[36:53] ve

[36:55] been working to try to get them

[36:57] the tools they need to become a

[36:59] fully incorporated operating

[37:02] business versus a secondary

[37:04] contract work. And so that

[37:04] s

[37:05] really been the challenge for

[37:06] the vast majority of folks that

[37:07] have come in. They haven

[37:07] t been

[37:09] ready yet. Uh, we have some

[37:10] people that have come back and

[37:11] been able to grow through that,

[37:13] and others we feel very

[37:15] confident they will be able to.

[37:16] Sometimes they want to take a

[37:20] step from step one to step 14,

[37:20] and we

[37:21] ve been working to try

[37:22] to help them get into something

[37:24] around step five and six before

[37:25] they come back. And, you know,

[37:27] look for this bigger project.

[37:28] So it takes a lot of time. But

[37:29] also to the other side is we

[37:30] have a lot of early, earlier

[37:33] stage companies. I know I feel

[37:33] confident there

[37:34] s a lot of

[37:36] businesses that are out there

[37:37] doing the work every day and

[37:38] are trying to keep up with

[37:39] everything they have to do to

[37:40] keep their business going. That

[37:40] haven

[37:42] t yet heard about this. I

[37:43] think your business is a

[37:44] perfect example. Uh, even

[37:47] business. How long now? Since

[37:48] 2019. So he

[37:49] s a perfect fit for

[37:50] this when it first came out.

[37:50] N

[37:51] t until the second

[37:52] round where he was able to hear

[37:53] about it. So I think, you know,

[37:54] I think we just need to get the

[37:56] word out to qualifying existing

[37:57] businesses. We have other

[37:59] programs for startups. We have

[38:00] other grant programs for really

[38:02] big companies. But this is

[38:02] unique in the sense it

[38:03] s for a

[38:05] small existing business to help

[38:05] them grow.

[38:07] Right. Thank you. Thank you.

[38:10] And, uh, MR. Godwin again, uh,

[38:13] good work. Very impressive. Um,

[38:14] Robert, when we when we first

[38:16] talked about this, it was a gap

[38:17] that needed to be filled

[38:18] because as you said, there

[38:19] s

[38:19] there

[38:20] s something here,

[38:21] regardless of what stage your

[38:22] business in and if it

[38:22] s a

[38:24] conceptual idea, you have the

[38:24] hub, what you

[38:25] re helping with,

[38:27] business plans and, and other

[38:28] services to help you get

[38:29] incorporated and tax id numbers

[38:31] and all those kind of things

[38:32] that that people need when you

[38:34] first start, then you have

[38:36] those who have been in business

[38:38] who learn the trade, but now

[38:38] they they

[38:39] re ready to grow and

[38:41] scale, which is MISTER Godwin.

[38:43] And then you have our community

[38:43] development. So there

[38:44] s

[38:45] something along the way, uh,

[38:47] regardless of what size your

[38:49] business is that, that, uh,

[38:50] some of these services in the

[38:52] community that are available to

[38:54] you, uh, again, we just want to

[38:55] encourage people to apply.

[38:55] There

[38:57] s a success story for, I

[38:58] think maybe the first one we

[39:01] approved, uh, the local

[39:02] contractor, she bought

[39:03] additional equipment with it.

[39:05] And now my understanding is she

[39:06] just got recently awarded a $4

[39:07] million contract.

[39:09] The usda grant from the North

[39:10] Carolina. Right. Going to be

[39:11] able to grow up and have, uh,

[39:14] 16 employees. Now, uh, vast,

[39:15] exceeding quickly exceeding

[39:16] their job creation

[39:18] expectations. And I have a

[39:19] feeling, well, Carlos has five

[39:20] years to get it because we

[39:21] didn

[39:21] t want it to be a burden

[39:23] on compliance for the company.

[39:24] I have no doubt he

[39:25] s going to

[39:26] meet those numbers much faster

[39:26] than that.

[39:28] So. Fantastic. Well, look, I

[39:28] don

[39:29] t want to delay this any

[39:31] further. Council, COUNCILMAN

[39:31] Davis.

[39:33] Uh, what can you tell us when

[39:35] the next cycle for applications

[39:37] can come in?

[39:39] We if we get a large influx, we

[39:40] tend to run as a group. But you

[39:42] can apply any time. Okay. So

[39:44] and now is a perfect time

[39:44] because we

[39:45] ve just worked

[39:46] through this approval here. And

[39:47] so we are absolutely ready.

[39:48] We

[39:48] ve got a brand new form

[39:49] online that

[39:50] ll make applying

[39:53] even easier on our site. So now

[39:53] is a perfect time. It

[39:54] s always

[39:55] a good time to give us a call.

[39:57] And we we can handle just about

[39:58] anything that comes in.

[39:59] Thank you sir.

[40:00] All right. Council look to you

[40:01] for your votes. There are no

[40:08] other questions. All right.

[40:09] Motion carries. Unanimous.

[40:10] Congratulations. Let

[40:11] s go and

[40:12] look forward to great things.

[40:18] For.

[40:20] All right, all right. Council

[40:24] moving to the 9.01 staff

[40:26] reports. Starts out with our

[40:29] Chief Dove and our iso rated

[40:33] fire department 135. In the in

[40:39] the world 100 271 2727. Oh,

[40:40] man. I gotta say, I

[40:40] m not

[40:41] really ready. It

[40:43] s only 711 at

[40:44] night. Look. Don

[40:45] t smoke. Hey,

[40:47] hey, uh, I thought you wanted

[40:48] to get through this without a

[40:49] complication. Oh, you don

[40:49] t

[40:51] worry. Let me think of some

[40:54] questions for you. Yeah. I

[40:56] usually psych myself up. I

[40:56] wasn

[40:58] t ready yet. Oh, good

[40:59] evening, MR. Mayor. Members of

[41:01] the council, Kevin Dove, fire

[41:02] chief, uh, here tonight,

[41:04] presenting the calendar year

[41:07] 2026, second quarter report.

[41:09] Uh, we have three highlights,

[41:10] uh, for the second that

[41:11] we

[41:12] re very excited to share.

[41:13] Um, as Doctor Hewitt said, we

[41:15] went through our accreditation

[41:17] process and we

[41:17] re awarded

[41:19] accreditation for the fourth

[41:21] time. Uh, and what I need

[41:22] everybody to know is that

[41:22] s not

[41:23] done in a vacuum. That

[41:23] s not

[41:24] done just by the fire

[41:25] department. That

[41:26] s a a whole

[41:29] group effort by the city. Uh,

[41:30] when our peer assessors come

[41:32] in, they interview city

[41:32] manager

[41:33] s office, they

[41:35] interview it, they interview

[41:38] hr, finance, budget, um, and

[41:39] our number one center,

[41:41] obviously. And if those folks

[41:42] don

[41:42] t have their ducks in a

[41:43] row, it doesn

[41:44] t work for us. So

[41:45] we also share this with them

[41:46] and we

[41:47] re appreciative of their

[41:49] work. Uh, and also I have to

[41:50] thank our partners at

[41:51] Fayetteville Technical

[41:53] Community College. Uh, they

[41:55] gave us that beautiful training

[41:56] center that we take advantage

[41:58] of every day. And that helps a

[42:02] ton as well. Um, also, we

[42:04] participated in a smoke alarm

[42:06] Saturday canvass where we

[42:09] visited 111 homes and installed

[42:11] 135 smoke alarms in three

[42:13] hours. All free of charge. And

[42:15] we held our groundbreaking for

[42:17] fire station 16. So it was a

[42:19] good quarter.

[42:20] Yeah, yeah.

[42:23] Um, moving on to operations,

[42:27] um, we responded to 7359 calls

[42:29] in quarter two, a slight

[42:31] increase from 2025, with APRIL

[42:32] being the busiest of three

[42:37] months. Uh, 4452 of those calls

[42:41] were medical in nature. 1115

[42:44] false alarms, 1018 service

[42:47] calls, and 317 fires. Uh, we

[42:49] have your heat maps that you

[42:51] like to see. Um, this is your

[42:54] fire map. And this followed

[42:56] behind with the medical, uh,

[42:58] map. Also, as always, we

[42:58] re

[42:59] happy to get you zoomed in to

[43:01] your districts. If you wish to

[43:04] help you, uh, identify any

[43:08] issues. Uh, the response times

[43:10] stay consistent with the total

[43:11] response time average of seven

[43:13] minutes and 31 seconds, which

[43:15] is well under our eight minute

[43:17] expectation. Uh, I want to give

[43:18] special attention to the

[43:20] decrease in alarm handling

[43:22] time. Uh, we thank MISS Reid

[43:23] and her staff for being very

[43:25] efficient. Uh, calls are being

[43:27] turned out of our 911 center.

[43:29] An average of one minute and

[43:33] three seconds. And chief calls

[43:35] are being turned out of our 911

[43:37] center. And an average of one

[43:42] minute and three seconds. Uh,

[43:44] before we go any further on

[43:45] statistics, I need to share

[43:47] with you that the us Fire

[43:48] Administration has changed how

[43:50] we collect and report data as

[43:51] the fire service, uh, what was

[43:54] known as Infers, which is the

[43:55] National Fire Incident

[43:57] Reporting System, is now near

[43:58] us, which is the National

[44:00] Emergency Response Information

[44:02] System. Say that three times

[44:03] fast.

[44:04] Mm.

[44:06] Uh, this change took place in

[44:09] JANUARY of 26. So several areas

[44:11] that we previously tracked are

[44:12] no longer tracked and some have

[44:14] been manipulated and some are

[44:15] collected different. So for

[44:17] about the next 2 or 3 quarters,

[44:17] you

[44:18] re going to see some things

[44:19] that MAY be skewed. But I

[44:19] ll

[44:22] try my best to, uh, to point

[44:24] those out to you. All right, so

[44:26] for our fire statistics, there

[44:29] were 317 fire responses in the

[44:31] second quarter. 68 those

[44:33] were structure fires. 12 of

[44:35] those started in the kitchen.

[44:37] Sadly, there was one civilian

[44:39] fire fatality and nine civilian

[44:41] injuries. There were seven

[44:42] firefighter injuries.

[44:44] Thankfully, all minor sprains

[44:45] and strains and things like

[44:48] that. The percentage of fires

[44:50] confined to the room of origin

[44:53] is at 57%, which is one of the

[44:55] things one of the changes, uh,

[44:57] previously we would identify

[44:59] fires as starting in the Room

[45:02] of origin contained to the

[45:04] building of origin, or did it

[45:05] get to an exposure? Well,

[45:06] that

[45:07] s changed now. Now you

[45:12] just report 25%, 50%, 75% or

[45:15] 100% loss. So that throws that

[45:16] out. Um, what we

[45:17] re going to do

[45:19] from now on is, of the confined

[45:20] room of origin. We

[45:20] re going to

[45:23] count in our 25% damage. Uh,

[45:23] that

[45:25] s the best way we can find

[45:30] to track that. The dollar saved

[45:36] ratio was at 94.33%. Uh, we had

[45:38] a some significant fire losses

[45:40] this quarter, which brought

[45:41] that number down a little bit.

[45:45] Uh, that was 2.2.68 1 million

[45:47] in total fire loss. Um, six of

[45:48] the structure fires were

[45:50] intentionally set, and we had

[45:52] three lithium ion battery

[45:54] fires. Uh, we did use one of

[45:56] our fire blankets. We had a

[45:57] lithium ion battery fire in the

[45:59] back of a tractor trailer. It

[46:01] was a total of, uh, batteries

[46:03] that were were taken off on us.

[46:05] And we were we used our, uh,

[46:09] our fire blanket. The top three

[46:12] fire losses were the, uh, hotel

[46:14] fire on Sycamore Dairy Road.

[46:16] Uh, this picture is is awesome

[46:16] to me, but I

[46:17] m a fireman. It

[46:18] probably scares the heck out of

[46:20] a bunch of people, but one of

[46:21] the occupants took this out of

[46:25] their window. Um, that morning,

[46:26] uh, the second fire was a

[46:28] residential fire on Adolphus

[46:29] Road. And then we had a farm

[46:31] equipment fire on Stony Point

[46:34] Road. You

[46:35] ll see a decrease in

[46:38] ems calls. Um, this is also

[46:39] another part of that near us

[46:40] where some calls are now

[46:43] reclassified as service calls.

[46:46] Uh, overdose responses and

[46:47] Narcan administration continue

[46:51] to trend down. Our hazmat team

[46:54] had a busy as excuse me, had a

[46:56] busy quarter. Um, natural gas

[46:57] response has increased almost

[46:58] triple. We don

[47:00] t know why there

[47:02] was no smoking gun. Um, but

[47:02] we

[47:03] re going to continue to

[47:05] monitor that. And our hazmat

[47:06] team is actually right now

[47:07] getting ready to go to Harnett

[47:10] County, uh, for a Co call. So

[47:10] they

[47:11] re busy. They

[47:12] re always

[47:15] moving. Uh, moving on to our

[47:16] most important pieces, our

[47:19] human capital, our personnel.

[47:21] We held our sixth annual women

[47:23] in the fire service day. Uh,

[47:24] this is when we invite women

[47:26] interested in the fire service

[47:27] to the training center. Uh,

[47:29] they kick all the males out.

[47:31] Our female officers and

[47:32] firefighters are there to

[47:33] answer their questions. They

[47:35] walk them through the physical

[47:36] agility test, helped them with

[47:38] interview skills, and basically

[47:39] show them what it takes to be a

[47:40] firefighter and what it

[47:41] s all

[47:45] about. It was actually a really

[47:46] good quarter for us in regards

[47:49] to separations. Uh, this chart

[47:50] looks a little dramatic. Um,

[47:51] bu only had two

[47:53] resignations and one retirement

[47:56] in the second quarter. At the

[47:59] end of the quarter, we only had

[48:00] one vacancy, which was a permit

[48:01] technician and fire

[48:03] inspections. We filled that,

[48:05] but unfortunately, we are

[48:06] starting to see an increase in

[48:09] resignations over the summer.

[48:11] Uh, our demographics remain

[48:12] very similar to quarter one

[48:14] simply because we didn

[48:14] t lose

[48:15] many people and we only hired

[48:18] one inspector. Uh, we can

[48:21] continue to currently be at 26%

[48:23] underrepresented population.

[48:26] Our staff completed over 32,000

[48:28] hours of training in the second

[48:32] quarter. Um, moving on into the

[48:32] fire marshal

[48:35] s office, our fire

[48:38] inspectors completed 1038 new

[48:41] plan reviews, did 323 new

[48:46] construction inspections, 3471

[48:48] maintenance inspections, and

[48:50] discovered 7242 fire code

[48:52] violations. Luckily, most of

[48:54] those are education and fixed

[48:56] right there. Um, very few

[48:58] require a fine or any kind of

[49:00] additional action. Uh, we

[49:03] issued 143 new certificate of

[49:06] occupancies and distributed 106

[49:08] educational flyers to

[49:10] businesses. Here are the top

[49:13] five fire code violations that

[49:14] we find. Portable fire

[49:16] extinguishers are still number

[49:18] one with electrical equipment,

[49:20] wiring and hazards being number

[49:24] two. And last but certainly not

[49:26] least is our community risk

[49:30] reduction folks. Uh, we

[49:35] interacted with 9999 residents,

[49:36] and I was like, really? You

[49:37] couldn

[49:38] t find one more person

[49:40] to go talk to? But, uh, they

[49:41] gave me the real number. So

[49:42] that

[49:43] s what it is. Uh, we were

[49:47] at 104 community events, 392

[49:49] smoke alarms were installed.

[49:51] Total 116 carbon monoxide

[49:54] alarms installed, 105 children

[49:56] are now riding more safely in

[50:01] cars. 1018 people now no hands,

[50:03] only cpr. And we did three

[50:04] youth fire setting

[50:06] interventions during the second

[50:11] quarter. And as always, no one

[50:12] should ever go to sleep without

[50:15] a working smoke alarm. Call us

[50:17] or scan the qr code for free

[50:19] smoke alarm delivered to your

[50:21] home and installed by our fine

[50:22] firefighters, and I

[50:23] m happy to

[50:25] take any of your questions.

[50:27] Uh, do have a couple

[50:28] Councilmember hair. And then I

[50:29] had one.

[50:31] Thank you. Pretty good. Uh,

[50:34] report, chief. Thank you sir.

[50:36] Uh, I was trying to see. I

[50:38] think it was. Well, that says

[50:42] that two that you had a, you

[50:47] had where a person had, uh,

[50:49] lost their life. But I

[50:49] ve got

[50:51] it written down here as far as

[50:52] statistics, but you

[50:53] ve got 2 or

[50:55] 3 that has, have that I was

[50:57] trying to see. Was that person

[50:59] caught that started the fire.

[51:00] No, I think you said you said

[51:01] the fire that was started. Was

[51:04] that person caught?

[51:05] Yes, sir.

[51:06] Thank you.

[51:07] Thank you. Mayor.

[51:09] Chief, on, uh, the page with

[51:15] fire inspections. Second

[51:15] quarter. It

[51:18] s got years 22, 24,

[51:23] 25 and 26. Yes, yes. So you

[51:26] have a huge increase in fire

[51:30] code violations from 25 and 26.

[51:32] It doubled. Why is that?

[51:37] Our inspections doubled. Um, if

[51:38] you look at the new

[51:40] construction inspections, none

[51:41] of those were reported. We

[51:41] didn

[51:43] t do them in 24 and 25.

[51:45] And our plans reviews have

[51:47] almost doubled as well. Um, due

[51:49] to the additional staff, um,

[51:51] and a lot of those are found in

[51:52] the new plans reviews when

[51:52] they

[51:54] re going through the, the

[51:56] reviews and they say, hey, with

[51:59] this, you need a riser here or

[52:01] something over here that counts

[52:04] as a violation. Really? Yes,

[52:04] sir. It

[52:05] s just because it has

[52:07] to be noted. But it

[52:08] s no, it

[52:08] s,

[52:10] you know, people and education.

[52:11] Oh yeah. The maintenance

[52:16] inspections are the 3471. Those

[52:17] are the ones that are on the

[52:19] three, four and five year cycle

[52:21] where we go into the, uh, the

[52:22] business and, and get them

[52:23] squared away.

[52:24] Okay.

[52:25] All right. Council member, uh,

[52:27] Jones and then mayor pro tem.

[52:28] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[52:29] Uh, first, thank you all for

[52:31] what you do. Um, was able to

[52:32] attend some of the car safety

[52:34] events that you partnering with

[52:35] the state and others with. You

[52:36] all do a good job. I just

[52:39] appreciated the engagement that

[52:40] you have with the community,

[52:41] how responsive they were. And I

[52:43] think a lot of them were

[52:44] surprised. They were like, oh,

[52:46] the fire department is out

[52:47] here. So you are doing a lot of

[52:48] things. So I run a really,

[52:49] really thank you all in the

[52:51] community is really, really,

[52:52] uh, appreciative of you. Uh, my

[52:54] question is quick now, maybe

[52:55] premature asking this. If so,

[52:57] you can just say so and we get

[52:59] it. Um, later in the year. Uh,

[52:59] I see you

[53:00] re doing a good job

[53:02] with your staffing and your

[53:04] retention, um, as well. And I

[53:06] know you mentioned some things,

[53:08] uh, at this moment, what are

[53:11] your plans or what is in place

[53:13] to, uh, address the over

[53:17] higher, uh, situation?

[53:17] Um, we

[53:19] ve been working with,

[53:21] uh, budget, and we think we

[53:23] have a solution. Um, we

[53:23] re

[53:23] going to we

[53:24] re moving. We

[53:24] re

[53:25] actually moving forward with

[53:30] our second, um, class of 2026

[53:32] that will start in SEPTEMBER.

[53:32] Uh, we

[53:34] re going to on board the

[53:35] over hires. Um, and we

[53:36] re going

[53:37] to work closely with budget to

[53:39] make sure, um, we can handle

[53:40] that because we

[53:40] re, we

[53:41] re, um,

[53:43] realizing some vacancies and

[53:46] some coming. Um, or

[53:47] retirements. So they

[53:48] re going

[53:48] to they

[53:49] re going to flush

[53:51] themselves out. The the concern

[53:52] we have is probably for the,

[53:57] um, first class of 2027, um, we

[53:58] MAY not be able to to bring the

[53:59] over higher zone. It just

[54:00] depends on what the numbers

[54:01] look like.

[54:02] Okay.

[54:04] Okay. Understood. I think we

[54:05] can address that at that time.

[54:05] Thank you so much.

[54:06] Thank you.

[54:06] All right. Mayor Pro.

[54:08] Tem.

[54:08] Uh.

[54:09] Just to piggyback.

[54:09] Off of.

[54:11] What my colleagues said about

[54:14] the partnership with state, uh,

[54:15] community Services, I went out

[54:16] there.

[54:19] And seen one of your events

[54:22] about the child car seats and a

[54:24] grandpa and a papa like me did

[54:26] not realize that the car seat

[54:27] that I had installed was

[54:29] installed. Wrong.

[54:30] Papa.

[54:30] So I

[54:31] m glad thatent out to

[54:33] that event. And I don

[54:33] t know

[54:34] who the young lady was, but she

[54:35] corrected me. How do you get

[54:38] that information out? Because I

[54:40] had asked, uh, Shakeshaft a few

[54:42] questions about why that, uh,

[54:43] exercise only lasted a couple

[54:45] of hours. And how come we

[54:45] didn

[54:47] t publicize that? More? So

[54:48] Papa

[54:49] s like me around the city

[54:51] can take their cars and get

[54:52] them inspected for the child

[54:53] seats that

[54:53] s carrying their

[54:54] loved ones.

[54:56] Well, I got the guy right here,

[54:57] so he can, uh, I

[54:58] ll take the

[54:59] beating if there is one, but he

[55:01] can give you the information.

[55:03] So that particular event that

[55:04] you were at was part of

[55:06] training new car seat techs. So

[55:07] that class was a week long

[55:09] class which included a two hour

[55:11] car seat checking station for

[55:13] us to test our new techs at,

[55:15] uh. However, there have been,

[55:16] uh, since that day, there

[55:16] s

[55:18] been three more events there

[55:19] between the target parking lot

[55:20] and the Harris Teeter parking

[55:20] lot. They

[55:21] re pushed out through

[55:22] our social media, and they

[55:22] re

[55:23] pushed out through our

[55:23] partners. It

[55:24] s not just the

[55:25] Fayetteville Fire Department.

[55:26] You have the North Carolina

[55:28] Safe Kids coalition. Hope Mills

[55:29] Fire Department

[55:29] s been out to

[55:31] help us. Uh, Fayetteville

[55:31] police have been out there to

[55:32] help us. So it

[55:32] s pushed out

[55:33] through all of our social

[55:34] media

[55:35] s Fort Bragg fire as

[55:37] well. So all of our partners

[55:38] are pushing out the flyers and

[55:40] the info and the businesses.

[55:41] Our local business community

[55:43] between Target and Harris

[55:44] Teeter and all these folks

[55:45] stepping up to welcome us to

[55:46] their properties. We

[55:47] re going

[55:47] to meet the people where

[55:47] they

[55:49] re at. I can put it out on

[55:51] social media all day long.

[55:51] We

[55:52] re going to go to where you

[55:52] are, where you

[55:53] re shopping with

[55:53] your family. We

[55:53] re going to

[55:54] find you.

[55:55] Great job, I appreciate that.

[55:56] Thank you. Sir.

[55:57] Uh, Chief Dave, one more

[55:58] question. You talked about the

[56:00] lithium battery blankets, I

[56:01] believe when I first got on

[56:03] council, you told me that they

[56:04] were mainly used for parking

[56:06] decks, and I said you had three

[56:07] of them being used for two

[56:10] questions. Two parts. One. Does

[56:12] every department have one boss?

[56:14] Three questions. Two, do you

[56:16] need more? And three, what do

[56:18] you do when you have a

[56:20] emergency and a blanket is not

[56:23] available? Because. Because let

[56:24] me back up. Because I know the

[56:24] phone that we

[56:25] re supposed to

[56:26] use, you can

[56:26] t use anymore

[56:27] because it

[56:28] s hazardous from

[56:29] that mistake.

[56:31] Yeah. Well, we we continue to

[56:32] learn about lithium ion

[56:35] batteries every day. Um, I

[56:36] think question one was where

[56:37] are they? There

[56:39] s one on every

[56:40] other floor, in every parking

[56:42] deck in the city to include the

[56:44] hospital. The hospital came on

[56:45] and partnered with us, and

[56:46] there

[56:47] s one in every battalion

[56:47] chief

[56:49] s vehicle in the city.

[56:52] Um, there are two big to go on.

[56:54] Our regular fire trucks without

[56:56] remodeling the whole truck. And

[56:57] we know those things are

[56:58] expensive enough as they are.

[57:00] Um, so the battalion chief can

[57:01] get to wherever they

[57:02] re needed

[57:04] really quick. And we have some

[57:07] spare. So the the question is

[57:07] we don

[57:08] t need anymore right

[57:08] now. We

[57:10] re good. What was your

[57:11] third part?

[57:12] That was it. That was all full

[57:12] up.

[57:13] Okay.

[57:15] Um, and we had used it. They

[57:15] re

[57:15] they

[57:17] re multi-use. Um, they

[57:18] were designed for a car fire.

[57:21] My biggest concern, as we were

[57:25] learning, um, battery vehicles

[57:27] is when they start burning, you

[57:27] can

[57:29] t put them out in a timely

[57:32] manner. And those concrete, um,

[57:34] buildings, they do. You degrade

[57:36] the concrete, they spall, you

[57:38] can lose the building. So that

[57:40] was the the first goal. But as

[57:40] we

[57:43] re learning and moving, um,

[57:43] you know, we

[57:44] re getting more

[57:44] creative.

[57:45] You just made me think of

[57:47] another question, chief. Uh, I

[57:47] don

[57:47] t know if you know the

[57:49] answer or not, but a while ago,

[57:52] it was a bomb threat, and I d that the police

[57:53] department had to go through

[57:56] the county to get a sniffing

[57:58] dog. Well, I asked the police

[57:58] department that question.

[57:58] That

[57:59] s okay. Yeah, yeah, my

[58:00] dogs don

[58:00] t sniff.

[58:01] Yeah, I got.

[58:03] They make people feel better.

[58:04] Thank you. Chief.

[58:05] All right.

[58:06] Counsel, I don

[58:06] t see any

[58:07] further questions. We

[58:08] ll look

[58:09] for a motion to, uh. So, MR.

[58:11] Mayor. All right, so there

[58:11] s a

[58:12] motion by Mayor Pro tem to

[58:14] receive the second quarter

[58:16] report. Second by here. Any

[58:18] discussion? All right. Council,

[58:20] look to you for your votes to

[58:47] receive. All right, chief,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you

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[59:03] and of course, our residents

[59:05] here in Fayetteville. Good

[59:05] evening.

[59:08] Good evening.

[59:09] So again, I

[59:11] m Chief Brian. I

[59:12] will be conducting our second

[59:15] quarter, which will be through

[59:18] JANUARY through JUNE 30th of

[59:20] this year. Hold on. Let me

[59:30] find. There we go. As you

[59:30] ll

[59:33] see, our numbers here, um,

[59:36] persons, um, crime, property

[59:38] crimes, felony arrests. You

[59:38] ll

[59:40] see pretty much in terms of our

[59:42] numbers, um.

[59:42] Broken down.

[59:43] See, the person

[59:44] s crime is up

[59:47] 12. About 12%. I

[59:48] ll show the

[59:50] slides, um, that are coming

[59:51] afterwards. That will explain

[59:54] where the increase is at. But

[59:55] in all reference, you

[59:55] ll see

[59:57] that overall, our crime is

[59:59] down, but we have an increase

[1:00:03] of 97 incidents. And again, uh,

[1:00:05] that will be explained on the

[1:00:06] next slide here. Uh, you

[1:00:07] ll see

[1:00:09] our violent crime. You

[1:00:09] ll see

[1:00:13] for 2025 to 2026, we

[1:00:15] re at 54%

[1:00:18] less in terms of our homicides

[1:00:20] and victims, 46%.

[1:00:22] So again, I want to make sure

[1:00:22] to press her.

[1:00:26] That, yes, 54% less. Um, in

[1:00:27] terms of, uh, incidents and

[1:00:31] also. 15, 46% in terms of

[1:00:34] victims of homicides. And then

[1:00:36] also we have a 29% decrease

[1:00:39] also on rape. And, uh, we

[1:00:41] continue to, um, lower our

[1:00:43] aggravated assault, but our

[1:00:45] Achilles heel right now are the

[1:00:47] simple assaults. Um, where you

[1:00:50] see here is about 18% out. And

[1:00:52] then overall, you can look at

[1:00:53] total persons. It

[1:00:54] s up about

[1:00:59] 12% across the board from 25 to

[1:01:01] 26. Here again it reiterates

[1:01:03] our numbers regarding

[1:01:05] homicides. Uh, one of the

[1:01:05] things that we

[1:01:07] d like to tout

[1:01:10] in terms of the average, um,

[1:01:13] solvency rate across the United

[1:01:16] States, about1%. Fayetteville

[1:01:21] Police Department has 100% of

[1:01:23] our clearance, 100% clearance.

[1:01:24] So we

[1:01:26] re doing that unit is

[1:01:27] doing a phenomenal job in terms

[1:01:31] of, um, solving these crimes in

[1:01:33] terms of, um, those that have

[1:01:39] been victimized. During our

[1:01:41] aggravated assaults. Again,

[1:01:41] you

[1:01:42] ll see these numbers in

[1:01:44] terms of where we are in these

[1:01:47] misdemeanors. But yet we have,

[1:01:50] um, 16% decrease where we

[1:01:50] re

[1:01:51] partnering with the Phoenix

[1:01:53] Center to provide a wraparound

[1:01:54] service. We also have our

[1:01:56] officers and detectives that

[1:01:58] are do follow up, uh, to ensure

[1:02:01] that those victims are will not

[1:02:03] be a repeat in terms of being a

[1:02:05] victimization in terms of the

[1:02:10] domestic violence. As you see

[1:02:12] here, our sound thinking or

[1:02:15] ShotSpotter, where we had 213

[1:02:17] alerts through this period with

[1:02:19] eight guns recovered, eight

[1:02:23] arrested and 317 shell casings

[1:02:29] recovered. A property crimes.

[1:02:29] As you

[1:02:30] ll see, these numbers

[1:02:32] are also impacted, especially

[1:02:34] on our motor vehicle where

[1:02:34] we

[1:02:37] re down 23%. You

[1:02:38] ll see we

[1:02:40] actually had a team that came

[1:02:42] together with a task force to

[1:02:44] address when we were starting

[1:02:46] to have a trend, and, uh, that

[1:02:47] particular task force really

[1:02:49] made an impact in our numbers.

[1:02:49] So you

[1:02:50] ll see that here

[1:02:52] reflected on this slide. And

[1:02:56] also our robbery down 21%. Uh,

[1:02:58] you know, in terms of these

[1:03:01] robberies, uh, when our patrol

[1:03:02] arrived, we also have our

[1:03:04] capers, our Crimes against

[1:03:06] persons unit that also respond.

[1:03:08] And so with that, they

[1:03:08] re able

[1:03:11] to come out there and track any

[1:03:13] suspects, live as soon as you

[1:03:14] know, when they get there, then

[1:03:14] they

[1:03:15] ll start, um,

[1:03:16] investigating that particular

[1:03:18] case. And many times they

[1:03:18] re

[1:03:20] able to get and arrest those

[1:03:22] suspects. So therefore, you all

[1:03:24] know that many times it

[1:03:24] s going

[1:03:25] to be 1 or 2 individuals in the

[1:03:27] city that are committing these

[1:03:28] repeat robberies. So therefore

[1:03:29] we

[1:03:31] re being effective by by

[1:03:33] utilizing our capers unit. And

[1:03:33] they

[1:03:34] re doing a great job as

[1:03:40] well. Next here is our juvenile

[1:03:43] data. As you know, um, this is

[1:03:44] across the nation but also

[1:03:45] within our state. We

[1:03:46] ve

[1:03:47] received calls from other

[1:03:49] chiefs, uh, in terms of what

[1:03:49] we

[1:03:51] re doing, uh, of course,

[1:03:51] you

[1:03:53] ll see here the biggest

[1:03:54] change that you

[1:03:55] ll see in terms

[1:03:59] from 25 to 26 is our field

[1:04:01] contacts with juveniles. It

[1:04:01] s

[1:04:04] up 43%. Now, you also see that

[1:04:05] that

[1:04:07] s reflective from 25 to 26

[1:04:08] in terms of what we

[1:04:09] re doing

[1:04:10] and seizing. We

[1:04:12] re seizing 105%

[1:04:15] more weapons. We seized um,

[1:04:17] almost 70% more drugs from

[1:04:19] juveniles. But at the same

[1:04:21] time, you also decrease in

[1:04:23] breaking and entering, uh,

[1:04:25] among juveniles by 30, almost

[1:04:28] 32%. And also our motor vehicle

[1:04:30] theft has really been impacted.

[1:04:32] Also with this, uh, encounters

[1:04:35] that we have now almost 52%

[1:04:37] decrease in motor vehicle

[1:04:39] thefts. So these are how we are

[1:04:41] encountering and making an

[1:04:43] impact in terms of, uh, crimes

[1:04:46] with juveniles. Now, this slide

[1:04:51] here illustrates the crimes and

[1:04:53] contacts with uh juveniles

[1:04:55] during the curfew time. Uh,

[1:04:59] which is 11 A.M. Or 11 P.M. To

[1:05:01] 6 A.M.. And if you

[1:05:01] re watching

[1:05:02] and seeing what

[1:05:02] s happening

[1:05:03] with some of our other

[1:05:05] municipalities, they

[1:05:05] re

[1:05:07] actually looking at, um,

[1:05:09] changing their time from 11 or

[1:05:11] looking at starting at early to

[1:05:13] 9 P.M.. So, but at this time,

[1:05:14] we have right now where you

[1:05:17] see, you have 38 contacts with

[1:05:19] those 16 years in a and below,

[1:05:20] where we

[1:05:21] ve had 17 incidents

[1:05:24] with 22, uh, incidents that

[1:05:26] were charged, and 17 of these

[1:05:28] are involving juveniles. And

[1:05:29] then you

[1:05:31] ll see the, uh,

[1:05:32] reference to the the different

[1:05:33] incidents that have taken

[1:05:35] place. Now, we actually had a

[1:05:38] total of 55 contacts during

[1:05:41] this time period. But once we

[1:05:42] engage with these individuals,

[1:05:44] always be, you know, be aware

[1:05:44] that we

[1:05:45] re always utilizing

[1:05:47] either a reasonable suspicion

[1:05:49] or probable cause before we we

[1:05:51] are engaging with these

[1:05:53] individuals. And, you know,

[1:05:54] again, this is where I state

[1:05:54] that we

[1:05:56] re not approaching any

[1:05:58] of these individuals just based

[1:05:59] on because we think that

[1:05:59] they

[1:06:02] re 16 or below. And just

[1:06:03] to show that reflection, when

[1:06:04] we do encounter some of these

[1:06:05] individuals, we

[1:06:06] ve had a total

[1:06:10] of 55 and we had about ten of

[1:06:12] them were 17 years of age. So

[1:06:15] that was above. And also seven

[1:06:17] were adults. So many times this

[1:06:19] kind of reflects, again, that

[1:06:19] we can

[1:06:21] t really tell what their

[1:06:23] age is until we actually have

[1:06:24] some type of reason to, you

[1:06:26] know, engage with them, uh,

[1:06:28] through reasonable suspicion or

[1:06:31] probable cause. Here

[1:06:32] s our

[1:06:34] school resource program. As you

[1:06:36] see, we have the 18 certified

[1:06:38] SROs. Of course. Uh, today was

[1:06:40] the first day of school. And so

[1:06:40] we

[1:06:41] re going to be up and

[1:06:43] ramping up. And one, one change

[1:06:45] is different in terms of how

[1:06:45] we

[1:06:47] re looking at our numbers.

[1:06:47] Uh, you

[1:06:49] ll see, uh, previous

[1:06:49] year we

[1:06:52] ve done it as the

[1:06:52] school year, but now we

[1:06:53] re just

[1:06:54] going to do it as a calendar

[1:06:55] year just to keep it

[1:06:56] consistent, because that

[1:06:56] s how

[1:06:57] we usually track all the rest

[1:06:59] of our numbers. So we just want

[1:07:03] to have that consistency.

[1:07:05] Again, just this slide

[1:07:06] demonstrates our partnership

[1:07:08] with our federal partners. And

[1:07:09] have you

[1:07:10] ll see here our atf.

[1:07:10] We

[1:07:13] ve uh we had six federally

[1:07:14] sentenced uh, during this

[1:07:16] during this quarter, uh, four

[1:07:18] federally indicted and 48

[1:07:20] firearms seized. So with those

[1:07:22] 48 firearms seized, those are

[1:07:23] all charged federally through

[1:07:24] the atf.

[1:07:26] And as you said, six federal

[1:07:26] centers. I

[1:07:27] m saying 13.

[1:07:29] So six federally sentenced.

[1:07:31] This is with atf.

[1:07:31] Okay, okay.

[1:07:33] This is specifically with atf.

[1:07:35] Um, for federally indicted and

[1:07:38] 48 firearms charged federally.

[1:07:39] And then between our federal

[1:07:41] partners of dea, fbi, and the

[1:07:44] us marshals, we, uh, sentenced

[1:07:47] seven federally, 17 federally

[1:07:50] indicted with 28 firearms and

[1:07:53] nearly 600,000 in currency and

[1:07:54] asset seized with those

[1:07:57] partners. Here, you

[1:07:58] ll see our,

[1:08:01] uh, vice narcotics suppression

[1:08:02] of of note. You

[1:08:04] ll see, um,

[1:08:05] meth. Uh, we

[1:08:06] re we

[1:08:06] re

[1:08:07] definitely rising in terms of

[1:08:10] seizures of meth. And also

[1:08:12] marijuana. Uh, the marijuana

[1:08:15] was, um, a result of a federal

[1:08:17] case that we had with dea. So

[1:08:19] therefore we had a pretty good

[1:08:20] seizure from that particular

[1:08:23] case, which also increased what

[1:08:27] we had from 25 to 26. But

[1:08:27] across the board, we

[1:08:28] re

[1:08:30] starting to see an increase in

[1:08:31] meth across the community in

[1:08:35] terms of usage. These are our

[1:08:37] numbers here. Uh, for our 901

[1:08:39] communications center. You

[1:08:39] ll

[1:08:41] see, uh, 911 calls. We

[1:08:42] ve

[1:08:45] processed, uh, 125,000 plus

[1:08:47] calls. And between that and our

[1:08:47] admin, you

[1:08:48] re almost pressing

[1:08:51] up to a 200,000 calls. Calls

[1:08:52] for service or dispatch is

[1:08:55] about a, um, just over 103,000

[1:08:57] calls. So, uh, we

[1:08:58] re

[1:08:59] continuously pushing forward

[1:09:05] with our number one center. Uh,

[1:09:06] one thing that we

[1:09:07] ve been

[1:09:11] having, uh, in terms of traffic

[1:09:12] enforcement, and we

[1:09:13] re hoping

[1:09:14] that these numbers are being

[1:09:15] reflective of what we are being

[1:09:17] able to do in the community. So

[1:09:21] if you see in 2025, we had 14

[1:09:22] fatalities resulting in these

[1:09:25] crashes, uh, and now we have

[1:09:27] nine. And then as far as the,

[1:09:28] the, uh, fatalities, the

[1:09:30] numbers were 16 last year when

[1:09:32] we have nine on there as well.

[1:09:35] So I hope this is reflective of

[1:09:36] what we

[1:09:37] re doing in terms of

[1:09:40] slowing traffic down and making

[1:09:42] sure that, um, you know, those

[1:09:43] that are coming through here

[1:09:44] understand that you need to

[1:09:45] slow down when you

[1:09:45] re coming

[1:09:46] through the city of

[1:09:47] Fayetteville. Then you

[1:09:48] ll see

[1:09:50] the, uh, the circumstances that

[1:09:52] contributed, that contributed

[1:09:55] to the, uh, these fatalities,

[1:09:58] as you see there in 2025, ten

[1:10:01] of them, ten of those incidents

[1:10:03] were speeding that contributed

[1:10:05] to those fatalities, uh, for

[1:10:09] this year, we have five. So I

[1:10:10] believe the message is getting

[1:10:13] out there on here is our

[1:10:16] traffic. Uh, stop reporting

[1:10:17] where you see, we

[1:10:18] re all almost

[1:10:22] 2500 stops. 23,400 more stops

[1:10:24] than last year. Again, that

[1:10:24] s

[1:10:25] with the increase of what we

[1:10:25] re

[1:10:28] doing. Also with our personnel.

[1:10:28] We

[1:10:29] re having more personnel on

[1:10:31] the street so that we can be a

[1:10:33] lot more proactive versus being

[1:10:36] reactive. Again, you

[1:10:37] ll see the

[1:10:39] demographics regarding the

[1:10:41] vehicle stops, vehicle searches

[1:10:43] in between there. If you look

[1:10:46] at 25 among all three of the

[1:10:48] demographics, the numbers isn

[1:10:48] t

[1:10:50] really changing. Now what you

[1:10:52] will see, uh, there was an

[1:10:54] increase in, uh, vehicle stops,

[1:10:56] but you also see that there was

[1:10:59] a decrease in, in searches, but

[1:11:01] we still have maintained the

[1:11:03] same numbers across the board.

[1:11:04] Uh, between all three

[1:11:13] demographics. This is one of

[1:11:15] our the, uh, initiatives

[1:11:15] the governor

[1:11:16] s highway safety

[1:11:19] program, where speed kills and

[1:11:21] no, the limit 2026 and these

[1:11:24] particular, um, uh, traffic and

[1:11:26] enforcement activities, you

[1:11:26] ll

[1:11:28] see that we, uh, had over 600

[1:11:31] citations issued with, uh,

[1:11:32] speeding being the

[1:11:36] overwhelming, um, uh, citation,

[1:11:38] uh, during or violation during

[1:11:40] these particular, um,

[1:11:47] encounters. Here we are, our

[1:11:49] Internal Affairs unit, where

[1:11:51] you look at our numbers, uh,

[1:11:54] use of force, uh, has increased

[1:11:56] by ten. Uh, but then you

[1:11:56] ll see

[1:11:58] the most number, the number

[1:11:58] that

[1:11:59] s going to stick out to

[1:12:01] you right now is our internal

[1:12:02] departmental, uh,

[1:12:04] investigations. And, uh, that

[1:12:04] s

[1:12:06] been as a result of, uh,

[1:12:08] officers not appearing at

[1:12:09] court. So we

[1:12:10] re holding our

[1:12:12] officers accountable, and and

[1:12:12] we

[1:12:14] re just making sure that

[1:12:15] they understand that it

[1:12:15] s

[1:12:16] critical for them to be at

[1:12:17] court. So, uh, you

[1:12:18] ll see the

[1:12:20] numbers being reflected, and

[1:12:20] then you

[1:12:22] ll see our

[1:12:24] exonerations, uh, sustained.

[1:12:27] And, uh, complaints, voters and

[1:12:35] unfounded allegations. Again,

[1:12:37] this slide again, will reflect

[1:12:38] in terms of the the biggest,

[1:12:40] um, uh, stand out is the

[1:12:42] suspensions. And again, the

[1:12:43] majority of those are what

[1:12:43] s

[1:12:45] driving those are failing to

[1:12:53] appear to court. As you see,

[1:12:55] our department mental staffing

[1:12:56] and that

[1:12:58] s uh, as of AUGUST

[1:13:01] 12th. And, uh, if you see,

[1:13:01] we

[1:13:04] re in the 90s in every one

[1:13:06] of these categories, every one

[1:13:08] of these categories. And if you

[1:13:10] notice our numbers last year

[1:13:13] around this time, we were at 64

[1:13:14] vacant positions, and we

[1:13:14] re at

[1:13:15] 32 now. But that

[1:13:16] s with the

[1:13:18] eight additional that that was

[1:13:20] added. So we would actually be

[1:13:23] at, I want to say at 23. So, so

[1:13:24] you see, uh, we

[1:13:26] re well into

[1:13:29] um, the uh, in that, in that

[1:13:31] down range in terms of reducing

[1:13:32] our numbers, we

[1:13:33] re projecting

[1:13:34] based on what we see right now,

[1:13:38] we have about 17 or 18 that are

[1:13:40] in the pipeline. And we

[1:13:41] re

[1:13:41] we

[1:13:42] re projecting that by

[1:13:42] JANUARY

[1:13:44] s class, we will have

[1:13:46] every vacancy filled.

[1:13:46] That

[1:13:49] s also head on. Sir.

[1:13:50] Yeah.

[1:13:51] Very good. Let

[1:13:52] s first time

[1:13:53] that I can remember that being

[1:13:53] the case.

[1:13:55] And and you know, there

[1:13:55] s

[1:13:55] there

[1:13:56] s a lot of, you know, in

[1:13:57] terms of what we

[1:13:57] re doing,

[1:13:57] we

[1:13:59] re also, you know, um,

[1:14:01] attracting a lot of laterals.

[1:14:03] And those laterals are critical

[1:14:04] because we

[1:14:04] re able to get them

[1:14:06] on the street anywhere from

[1:14:08] four weeks to six weeks, you

[1:14:09] know? So that

[1:14:10] s how we

[1:14:10] re able

[1:14:11] to do that. But we

[1:14:11] re also

[1:14:13] doing some innovative, uh,

[1:14:15] recruiting in terms of we

[1:14:15] re

[1:14:17] bringing in canines from other

[1:14:19] states. People are applying

[1:14:21] from Connecticut, you know, to

[1:14:22] become a k-9 officer here in

[1:14:23] Fayetteville. We

[1:14:24] re attracting

[1:14:26] officers from New York, uh,

[1:14:29] Kentucky. I mean, we have a

[1:14:31] really wide scope in terms of

[1:14:31] what we

[1:14:32] re attracting and we

[1:14:32] re

[1:14:34] bringing them here. So what

[1:14:34] that

[1:14:36] s doing is helping us

[1:14:38] increase the level of

[1:14:40] experience from, you know, like

[1:14:42] I said, when we first got on

[1:14:43] here, uh, when I first got on

[1:14:46] here last year, 75% of our

[1:14:49] officers had five years or less

[1:14:51] of experience. Wow. So now with

[1:14:53] attracting and bringing in

[1:14:54] these, uh, laterals, uh,

[1:14:56] laterals that have left and

[1:14:57] came back. So we

[1:14:58] re really

[1:14:59] making an impact. And what

[1:14:59] we

[1:15:01] re being able to do and, and

[1:15:02] some of these innovative

[1:15:04] programs. So I know patrol is,

[1:15:05] is really happy to see what

[1:15:05] we

[1:15:06] re going to be able to do in

[1:15:10] terms of 15, uh, officers per

[1:15:12] squad. So then now that is

[1:15:12] that

[1:15:13] s going to entail that

[1:15:13] we

[1:15:14] ll be able to be proactive

[1:15:16] and not only reactive, and then

[1:15:17] we

[1:15:18] ll be able to bring back our

[1:15:20] cert team as well to, you know,

[1:15:21] to deal with any kind of

[1:15:23] projects that we MAY have in

[1:15:25] the community. So again, we

[1:15:26] re

[1:15:26] we

[1:15:28] re definitely in a great

[1:15:29] spot in terms of what we

[1:15:29] re

[1:15:30] looking at right now.

[1:15:32] Okay.

[1:15:34] Again, this is our departmental

[1:15:35] staffing. Of course, you know,

[1:15:37] we are in a very transient

[1:15:40] community where we have a

[1:15:43] significant, um, a lot of our,

[1:15:45] uh, employees are also, um,

[1:15:47] military connected. So many

[1:15:50] times we have those that, um,

[1:15:51] when, you know, their spouses

[1:15:52] ready to PCs, we

[1:15:53] re also losing

[1:15:55] those good employees. And, you

[1:15:56] know, then we have some that

[1:15:58] come in, so but we always take

[1:16:00] them and, you know, but we

[1:16:01] understand have that

[1:16:02] understanding that this is a

[1:16:04] transient community with Fort

[1:16:07] Bragg. So but we always value,

[1:16:09] uh, the experience, that those

[1:16:11] employees bring to us, um, day

[1:16:15] in and day out. For those that

[1:16:18] are unaware, in APRIL we

[1:16:21] launched our Faith pd podcast.

[1:16:22] And so we

[1:16:23] re utilizing these to

[1:16:25] kind of make sure and put that

[1:16:26] narrative out there in terms of

[1:16:27] our local policing, our

[1:16:30] department priorities, and

[1:16:31] letting people know the people

[1:16:32] behind the badge and also a

[1:16:34] professional staff. So, uh, you

[1:16:37] can catch it. Uh, I believe the

[1:16:39] second Friday of each month,

[1:16:41] either on Spotify, Apple or

[1:16:43] iHeart and YouTube. So we

[1:16:43] re

[1:16:44] getting out there. We

[1:16:44] re going

[1:16:45] to try to have that, that,

[1:16:46] that, that, that voice out

[1:16:49] there. MR.. Uh, Ferguson, I

[1:16:50] know you have that voice. We

[1:16:50] re

[1:16:51] going to get you on there so

[1:16:52] you can help us out.

[1:16:55] Martin.

[1:16:55] Now you

[1:16:56] ll see our community

[1:16:59] events. Um, we have several our

[1:17:01] Citizens Police academy, our

[1:17:03] graduation there. Um, that

[1:17:03] s

[1:17:05] depicted on this slide. Also,

[1:17:07] our Special Olympics, our

[1:17:09] fundraiser for the torch run.

[1:17:10] And I don

[1:17:11] t know if you saw

[1:17:12] back that that that slide on

[1:17:13] the bottom left there we were

[1:17:15] running in the rain. We were

[1:17:16] running the rain. That was that

[1:17:17] was a tough one.

[1:17:17] That

[1:17:18] s commitment.

[1:17:20] Yes, sir. Then our other

[1:17:22] community events, uh, were

[1:17:24] child Abuse Awareness month.

[1:17:26] Uh, the pinwheels for the Child

[1:17:29] Advocacy Center. And we also,

[1:17:29] uh, showing our

[1:17:31] telecommunications week where

[1:17:33] they had cultural foods from

[1:17:36] New Orleans, uh, Latina Latin

[1:17:38] food and Italian food. Also

[1:17:39] displayed during that. It was

[1:17:41] very, very festive. Uh, during

[1:17:44] that, during that week. And

[1:17:45] then here on this slide, here

[1:17:45] s

[1:17:48] our National Police Week where

[1:17:50] we honor those officers that

[1:17:53] made that ultimate sacrifice

[1:17:54] while recognizing the

[1:17:55] dedication of those that

[1:17:57] to serve. And of

[1:17:58] course, we had our awards and

[1:18:00] promotion ceremony, which we

[1:18:02] also recognize the dedicated

[1:18:03] hard work of our officers and

[1:18:07] professional staff, as you see

[1:18:09] here. Our motto, Faith and

[1:18:10] service, pride and commitment

[1:18:12] and dedication to excellence

[1:18:14] and our vision, statement and

[1:18:16] mission statement. And at this

[1:18:17] time, I will take your

[1:18:18] questions.

[1:18:19] All right. Thank you. Chief. We

[1:18:21] do have a couple of questions.

[1:18:22] Council member hair.

[1:18:24] Well, thank you, mayor and

[1:18:27] chief. Uh, thank you for you

[1:18:29] and our team for all that

[1:18:29] you

[1:18:32] re doing. Uh, man, I

[1:18:32] m glad

[1:18:34] to hear that number is going to

[1:18:36] change where we

[1:18:36] re going to be

[1:18:40] fully staffed. Uh, real soon.

[1:18:41] And, uh, I

[1:18:42] ll go back a, you

[1:18:47] know, a few police chiefs. And

[1:18:48] so this sounds real great. So

[1:18:50] thank you. And everything that

[1:18:50] you

[1:18:51] re doing and that your

[1:18:53] staff is doing, and of course,

[1:18:56] the council with, uh, putting

[1:18:58] in the budget to help, uh, give

[1:19:01] additional dollars to pull our

[1:19:04] men and women in, uh, I got a

[1:19:06] couple of questions. One, when

[1:19:09] you said about the lateral

[1:19:10] folks are coming in, you said

[1:19:12] some are coming back.

[1:19:13] Yes, sir.

[1:19:16] And first, explain what that

[1:19:17] meant.

[1:19:18] So we

[1:19:21] ve had officers that were

[1:19:23] previously employed with sfpd

[1:19:25] that went on to other

[1:19:29] departments or, uh, sought

[1:19:30] employment, uh, in another

[1:19:32] career field. But they are also

[1:19:34] coming back now to the police

[1:19:35] department.

[1:19:35] So we

[1:19:36] re looking more and more

[1:19:39] inviting to support them coming

[1:19:40] back.

[1:19:41] I believe. So they

[1:19:41] re they

[1:19:41] re

[1:19:42] getting the message. They

[1:19:42] re

[1:19:42] seeing what

[1:19:43] s going on, sir?

[1:19:46] Yeah. Explain to me what you

[1:19:50] met, uh, on the k-9. You

[1:19:50] re

[1:19:52] getting, uh, some canine folks

[1:19:54] that are coming in lateral, and

[1:19:55] I don

[1:19:55] t know if this is getting

[1:19:57] ready to be a dumb question

[1:19:58] here, but in front of you, you

[1:20:00] said canine. And, uh, a guy

[1:20:02] homeowner that owns German

[1:20:04] Shepherds. I immediately

[1:20:07] thought about the dogs. Also,

[1:20:07] when they

[1:20:08] re coming in lateral.

[1:20:11] Is that just the individual?

[1:20:11] So we

[1:20:14] ve actually have two, um,

[1:20:16] two candidates that have

[1:20:18] canines that they want to bring

[1:20:19] those canines with them.

[1:20:20] Okay, okay, okay.

[1:20:21] It wasn

[1:20:21] t so that

[1:20:22] s that

[1:20:22] s you

[1:20:23] know, that

[1:20:24] s really when you

[1:20:25] can bring on a team like that.

[1:20:28] Right? Offhand no training. You

[1:20:28] know, they

[1:20:29] ll just have to, you

[1:20:31] know, get some of the, um,

[1:20:33] standards in terms of how we do

[1:20:34] things and our, our, our

[1:20:37] policies and SOPs, but pretty

[1:20:38] much they can hit the ground

[1:20:39] running when it comes to stuff

[1:20:40] like that.

[1:20:42] Okay. Now close to getting

[1:20:45] close to my end here. Uh, go to

[1:20:50] your slide with, um, sound

[1:20:54] thinking. Yeah, sound thinking,

[1:20:57] uh, shots spotter JANUARY

[1:21:01] through JUNE of 26. Give say

[1:21:03] those numbers out loud. Uh,

[1:21:04] once again, because I don

[1:21:04] t

[1:21:06] want to mix them up, even

[1:21:07] though I see what I see in

[1:21:10] front of me. Tell me the, um,

[1:21:13] the support with the sound

[1:21:15] thinking, uh, ShotSpotter for

[1:21:16] that time of the

[1:21:17] recoveries.

[1:21:18] So hold.

[1:21:24] On just a minute.

[1:21:27] So out of the 213 alerts, we

[1:21:28] ve

[1:21:30] had eight guns recovered, eight

[1:21:35] individuals arrested and 317

[1:21:36] shell casings that are also

[1:21:37] recovered.

[1:21:38] Okay, so that

[1:21:38] s been a big

[1:21:39] plus.

[1:21:41] It will. And one of the things

[1:21:43] for us, we understand that this

[1:21:45] is just one tool in our

[1:21:45] toolbox.

[1:21:46] Right?

[1:21:47] Right. Um, but but as we

[1:21:49] continue moving forward and

[1:21:51] collecting these shell cases,

[1:21:52] those will help us connect the

[1:21:54] dots on, you know, whether

[1:21:54] there

[1:21:56] s aggravated assaults,

[1:21:57] shooting into occupied

[1:21:59] dwellings or vehicles. And

[1:21:59] that

[1:22:00] s what we continue to just

[1:22:02] kind of hold on because it is

[1:22:04] going to connect the dots when

[1:22:05] we get an individual or we

[1:22:07] seize the weapon. And at that

[1:22:10] time we can pin or connect the

[1:22:11] nexus to those individuals with

[1:22:13] those weapons and those

[1:22:14] previous incidents.

[1:22:15] Yes, sir. Thank you. I don

[1:22:15] t

[1:22:17] want to take up all the time. I

[1:22:18] know my colleague is going to

[1:22:20] have some questions. I was also

[1:22:22] looking over at the juvenile

[1:22:25] data report, and I

[1:22:26] m glad to

[1:22:28] hear, uh, because of negative

[1:22:30] things that have have been

[1:22:30] said. I

[1:22:32] m glad to hear that.

[1:22:35] Until you come up on a young

[1:22:37] adult, uh, that

[1:22:38] s when you find

[1:22:40] out the information that

[1:22:40] s

[1:22:42] needed about that particular

[1:22:44] person, not just running up on

[1:22:46] them. So it was good to hear

[1:22:49] that. And also wanted to say

[1:22:51] congratulations to you. I don

[1:22:51] t

[1:22:51] think you

[1:22:52] ve been before us

[1:22:55] since you were put into the

[1:22:55] governor

[1:22:56] s committee. Whatever

[1:22:58] that, uh, name of that. But

[1:22:59] congratulations on that, sir.

[1:23:00] Thank you sir.

[1:23:01] Thank you mayor.

[1:23:04] All right. Uh, Mayor pro tem.

[1:23:05] Thank you mayor. Thank you

[1:23:07] chief. Great report. Numbers

[1:23:09] look great. I just want to add

[1:23:12] a few comments. One is your

[1:23:15] Emporium speeding campaign. I

[1:23:15] m

[1:23:17] glad that, uh, the numbers are

[1:23:18] going down and the speeding. I

[1:23:19] know that is your motto. To

[1:23:20] make sure that when they come

[1:23:21] through Fayetteville, they know

[1:23:23] that they need to slow down.

[1:23:24] Uh, but I

[1:23:25] m a emphasize school

[1:23:27] started today. I

[1:23:28] m gonna say

[1:23:29] that again. School started

[1:23:31] today. Sir. I know you did a

[1:23:32] campaign around the school

[1:23:34] zone. I know you did. On 295

[1:23:36] Raeford Road, Raleigh Road,

[1:23:38] Ramsey Street, Morganton Road.

[1:23:40] But school started today.

[1:23:40] Yes, sir.

[1:23:42] Might want to think about that.

[1:23:43] Uh.

[1:23:44] Sir, I already tell you. Uh,

[1:23:45] Chief Wallace already has

[1:23:47] plans. About what? What

[1:23:47] s going

[1:23:48] on? So he already talked to me

[1:23:51] this morning, and, uh, he

[1:23:52] already has a plan in terms to

[1:23:54] address, uh, some of those, uh,

[1:23:55] you know, in terms of that as

[1:23:56] well.

[1:23:57] Well, let me just say this, uh,

[1:23:58] I was talking with the mayor

[1:23:59] this morning. I was telling him

[1:24:01] I was going out, uh, to one of

[1:24:02] my hot spots in the school

[1:24:04] zone, and I was glad to see

[1:24:05] that, uh, Chief Hunt had his

[1:24:07] people out there at Stony Point

[1:24:08] and Century that we talked

[1:24:10] about. MR. Mayor, we got about

[1:24:12] that traffic. Yeah. Uh, I just

[1:24:16] want our citizens to know that

[1:24:16] we

[1:24:17] re going to do all we can to

[1:24:20] make sure our kids are safe in

[1:24:21] school zones and outside of

[1:24:23] school zones, not just this

[1:24:25] year, but every year. Uh,

[1:24:26] speaking of that, I wanted to

[1:24:27] make sure you gave some props

[1:24:29] to your crime prevention

[1:24:30] specialist, because I think the

[1:24:32] reason the motor vehicle theft

[1:24:33] Break-Ins has went down.

[1:24:34] Because every time I turn

[1:24:36] around, they are emphasizing

[1:24:37] motor vehicles. Lock your

[1:24:38] vehicle up and don

[1:24:38] t leave your

[1:24:39] guns in your cars.

[1:24:40] The 9 P.M. Routine.

[1:24:42] The 9 P.M. Routine. I mean,

[1:24:43] they recycle it over and over

[1:24:44] and over again. I know my

[1:24:46] colleague, uh, recognized, uh,

[1:24:48] McNair recognized one, uh, I

[1:24:48] can

[1:24:49] t remember what her name

[1:24:51] was, but all of them need to be

[1:24:53] recognized for the great job

[1:24:53] that they do at all these

[1:24:55] communities that we have across

[1:24:56] the entire city, uh,

[1:24:58] emphasizing that, yes, the

[1:25:00] second one is for, uh, Chief

[1:25:03] Hunt. We just renewed our sro

[1:25:05] contract. Are we meeting our

[1:25:06] obligations with how many SROs

[1:25:07] we need to have in the high

[1:25:09] schools, the junior high

[1:25:10] schools and elementary schools

[1:25:11] and so forth and so on?

[1:25:12] Yes, sir.

[1:25:13] And what is the next

[1:25:14] requirement that we have? We

[1:25:17] have how many schools?

[1:25:18] 33.

[1:25:20] And we only have 18 SROs, I

[1:25:20] think.

[1:25:21] Yes, sir.

[1:25:23] So is it still shared services?

[1:25:25] It I mean, right now the, uh,

[1:25:26] Cumberland County sheriff, uh,

[1:25:27] Cumberland County School System

[1:25:29] is paying for that. And so

[1:25:30] there will be some talk in

[1:25:31] terms of adding at least

[1:25:35] another three, uh, here. Um,

[1:25:36] when when we come up to that

[1:25:37] point. Yes, sir.

[1:25:38] Last question I was going to

[1:25:39] ask you, but I

[1:25:40] m gonna ask you,

[1:25:41] do we have dogs? Uh, bomb

[1:25:43] sniffing dogs.

[1:25:43] We have one.

[1:25:44] We have one.

[1:25:44] Yes, sir.

[1:25:46] All right. Thank you, chief.

[1:25:46] That

[1:25:47] s all I know. Yes, sir.

[1:25:47] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[1:25:50] All right. Thank you,

[1:25:51] Councilmember Jones.

[1:25:52] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Very

[1:25:53] quick. Thanks for the report.

[1:25:55] Provided some excellent

[1:25:57] information. Uh, just to make

[1:25:58] sure I got that correctly.

[1:26:00] Homicides are down over a

[1:26:02] little over 54%. Is that

[1:26:03] correct? That is correct. All

[1:26:04] right. Now, I wanted to bring

[1:26:05] that forward because a lot of

[1:26:07] times I hear in the community

[1:26:08] and they when you hear about

[1:26:10] homicide and it

[1:26:10] s it

[1:26:11] s in the

[1:26:12] media and it gets attention, I

[1:26:13] get it. And it gives the

[1:26:16] perception that it happens a

[1:26:18] lot. I know one is too many. I,

[1:26:20] I totally understand that. Uh,

[1:26:21] but it gives the perception

[1:26:22] that it

[1:26:23] s consistently

[1:26:25] occurring. And so I, I

[1:26:25] m glad

[1:26:27] that you brought that statistic

[1:26:29] up, uh, for that. So I really,

[1:26:30] really am glad for, uh, for

[1:26:32] that, especially with your

[1:26:32] clearance rate. That

[1:26:33] s

[1:26:34] phenomenal. And I want to tie

[1:26:36] that in to the sound thinking a

[1:26:38] lot of my areas that some of

[1:26:39] them, they wish they had it in

[1:26:41] their areas as well, but they

[1:26:44] were, uh, for the most part in

[1:26:46] support of it. Once they kind

[1:26:47] of understand. I think you did

[1:26:48] it. I don

[1:26:49] t think you did a

[1:26:51] good job with elaborating, such

[1:26:54] as the shell casings and how

[1:26:56] you MAY not see that immediate

[1:26:58] effect, but through the process

[1:27:00] of your investigation, it might

[1:27:01] be six months down or whatever

[1:27:03] it is, it could lead to

[1:27:04] something. So I think that that

[1:27:06] is a benefit, uh, of that. So

[1:27:08] my two, three quick questions

[1:27:10] for you, uh, in regards to the

[1:27:13] youth context, um, you

[1:27:16] mentioned the reasonable

[1:27:17] suspicion, probable cause

[1:27:18] aspect. Could you just give

[1:27:20] give us an idea, give the

[1:27:22] public an idea of what that

[1:27:24] potentially looks looks like.

[1:27:28] So what that looks like is not

[1:27:30] one. One call comes in, says,

[1:27:31] hey, there

[1:27:33] s two suspicious,

[1:27:36] um, subjects, uh, pulling car

[1:27:39] handles. And in the community

[1:27:43] on the street, we arrive there,

[1:27:45] we see two individuals matching

[1:27:46] that description. That

[1:27:46] s when

[1:27:50] we approach them. Then we

[1:27:51] determine that there are

[1:27:52] juveniles and they

[1:27:52] ll that

[1:27:52] s

[1:27:55] how they get, um, you know,

[1:27:57] related I our statistics.

[1:27:58] Understood, understood. And

[1:28:00] again, I know there MAY be some

[1:28:01] nuances, but just I wanted to

[1:28:03] share that just to, uh, let

[1:28:05] folks know I really don

[1:28:05] t

[1:28:07] believe uh, and again, this is

[1:28:09] me, uh, that that you all are

[1:28:11] out there just looking, uh,

[1:28:12] just randomly doing it. And you

[1:28:13] stated that. So I appreciate

[1:28:14] that because I wanted to bring

[1:28:16] some clarity with that. Number

[1:28:18] two, uh, as it relates to, uh,

[1:28:20] vehicle searches, I do get a

[1:28:22] lot of this question from our

[1:28:23] residents. They said, well,

[1:28:23] we

[1:28:23] re we

[1:28:24] re smelling marijuana

[1:28:28] at stoplights. So,

[1:28:30] hypothetically, someone stops

[1:28:31] you, stop somebody for

[1:28:33] equipment violation or

[1:28:35] something. Is that that smell

[1:28:36] of marijuana? Is that consider

[1:28:40] a reasonable cause to acts, you

[1:28:41] know, act or however you want

[1:28:42] to ask.

[1:28:43] About probable cause to go

[1:28:45] ahead and ask, yes, yes you

[1:28:46] did.

[1:28:47] Okay, okay. And I know it MAY

[1:28:48] seem like a cop, but a lot of I

[1:28:50] get a lot of those questions.

[1:28:50] And that

[1:28:51] s some of the things

[1:28:53] that I on the other part of it,

[1:28:55] uh, some were saying, well, you

[1:28:55] know, they can

[1:28:56] t really if they

[1:28:58] stop me, you know, if they

[1:28:59] smell it, it they can they

[1:29:00] really ask me to search my

[1:29:01] vehicle or things of that

[1:29:05] nature. So I just wanted..

[1:29:07] Yes. At that point. Yes.

[1:29:07] All right.

[1:29:08] Thank you. Thank you. And

[1:29:10] lastly, uh, how are your ears?

[1:29:11] I know you all used some data

[1:29:12] and things of that nature and

[1:29:15] and just feedback, uh, areas

[1:29:16] that you plan for your

[1:29:18] speeding, uh, speeding

[1:29:20] campaign. How are how are those

[1:29:21] determined?

[1:29:22] So a lot of those are based on

[1:29:25] the calls from the, the

[1:29:27] citizens here, the residents

[1:29:29] here. Uh, a lot of the times

[1:29:31] you all receive, uh, complaints

[1:29:33] as well. And so we, we go ahead

[1:29:34] and target based on the

[1:29:36] feedback that we are receiving

[1:29:37] in terms of where the calls are

[1:29:38] coming from. And that

[1:29:39] s where

[1:29:42] we direct our resources to.

[1:29:43] Absolutely. So, uh, and this is

[1:29:45] a I, I do thank you for that.

[1:29:47] I, I would like to put out

[1:29:49] there, uh, Rosehill road and I

[1:29:51] want to give you your, uh,

[1:29:53] staff a lot of credit. I

[1:29:53] ve

[1:29:56] seen a increased presence along

[1:29:58] Rose Hill Road. I mean, very,

[1:30:00] at very strategic times in the

[1:30:02] morning, midday, afternoon, I,

[1:30:04] see them out there. Uh, so i

[1:30:04] know that

[1:30:05] s a major cut

[1:30:07] through, uh, for some areas,

[1:30:09] so. But definitely, uh, put

[1:30:10] that on your radar. I know it

[1:30:10] s

[1:30:12] already out there. So with the

[1:30:13] increased signage that they

[1:30:14] have out there and some other

[1:30:16] things that were done, uh, I

[1:30:17] just wanted to put that out

[1:30:18] there. But thank you so much.

[1:30:19] Thank you.

[1:30:20] Thank you, sir.

[1:30:22] Oh, yeah. All right. Thank you.

[1:30:24] Uh, Councilmember McMillan.

[1:30:26] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Thank

[1:30:27] you, chief. I appreciate all

[1:30:28] you do. And thank you for this

[1:30:31] report. Um, I had a question

[1:30:34] about how we track, how we

[1:30:37] track traffic, stop data. Um,

[1:30:38] earlier this year, earlier this

[1:30:40] summer, the governor signed a

[1:30:41] budget that did not include a

[1:30:43] general statute that

[1:30:44] s been in

[1:30:46] place since 2002. Uh, the

[1:30:47] really forced departments

[1:30:49] across North Carolina to track

[1:30:51] incidents by race. Uh, to be

[1:30:53] able to look at disparities,

[1:30:54] especially in policing and

[1:30:57] traffic stops, as you know, in

[1:30:57] Fayetteville, it

[1:30:59] s, uh, it

[1:30:59] s

[1:31:00] caused us to see that there are

[1:31:02] some disparities. Uh, we

[1:31:03] ve

[1:31:04] dealt with driving while black

[1:31:06] as, as a, as a result, you

[1:31:07] know, some of those

[1:31:09] disparities. I wanted to hear

[1:31:10] from you. What what your

[1:31:11] department

[1:31:13] s take is on, uh, on

[1:31:15] the loss of this requirement

[1:31:17] and what your is in

[1:31:18] terms of continuing to track

[1:31:20] this data.

[1:31:22] Yes, sir. So when we received

[1:31:24] that information, uh, for us,

[1:31:26] it was also we were surprised

[1:31:28] that that actually went ahead

[1:31:30] and passed, uh, but, uh, from

[1:31:32] us, after discussing with my

[1:31:35] staff and we had a

[1:31:37] overwhelming, um, uh, agreement

[1:31:39] in terms of, for us as a

[1:31:39] department, it

[1:31:40] s going to

[1:31:42] continue to be in our policy so

[1:31:44] that we have that transparency

[1:31:45] for the community and maintain

[1:31:47] that trust. So for us as a

[1:31:48] department, even though it

[1:31:48] s

[1:31:48] it

[1:31:49] s no longer a requirement,

[1:31:52] we will be continuing the

[1:31:54] traffic stop reports as part of

[1:31:56] our requirement. And everything

[1:31:57] that we do as a department.

[1:31:59] I appreciate hearing you say

[1:32:02] that, uh, in public, uh, also

[1:32:04] would ask the council to think

[1:32:06] about what we can do to ensure

[1:32:07] that possibly that

[1:32:07] s an

[1:32:08] ordinance or something that

[1:32:08] s

[1:32:11] solid, uh, especially in light

[1:32:12] of how things are changing

[1:32:14] legislatively at the state.

[1:32:15] State level. Uh, I also wanted

[1:32:18] to ask chief about, uh,

[1:32:21] information on the sro program.

[1:32:22] Uh, we had a discussion earlier

[1:32:24] this year about, uh, what an

[1:32:27] awesome responsibility it is,

[1:32:29] uh, to have police officers, a

[1:32:33] uniformed, uh, in schools and

[1:32:34] also how we need to take some

[1:32:36] safeguards and understand what

[1:32:38] impacts that has on our

[1:32:40] students, especially. And I

[1:32:42] want to make a request tonight.

[1:32:44] Um, uh, if you look at slide

[1:32:46] ten, it does show, uh, some

[1:32:48] some responses. Uh, it does

[1:32:49] show some very basic

[1:32:51] information about our

[1:32:53] interaction. Uh, but the point

[1:32:54] that I brought up earlier this

[1:32:56] year that I think data would

[1:32:59] allow us to look at, uh, is how

[1:33:00] this could impact the school to

[1:33:03] prison pipeline and having, uh,

[1:33:05] juveniles, kids and students

[1:33:07] who are justice impacted, uh,

[1:33:08] and how important it is to

[1:33:10] track that. So there are some,

[1:33:10] uh, there

[1:33:11] s some measures like

[1:33:15] school based or race arrests,

[1:33:16] number of citations.

[1:33:17] Say that again, sir.

[1:33:18] Uh, school based arrests.

[1:33:19] School based like tracking

[1:33:20] that.

[1:33:20] Okay.

[1:33:23] Tracking citations? Yes, sir.

[1:33:24] Tracking the number of court

[1:33:26] referrals that come through the

[1:33:29] sro program, especially, uh,

[1:33:31] track and use of force

[1:33:33] incidents with our students.

[1:33:34] And then, uh, and then those

[1:33:37] same type of racial breakdowns

[1:33:37] to ensure that we

[1:33:38] re not

[1:33:38] repeating some racial

[1:33:40] disparities that that exist on

[1:33:42] the broader level. Okay. Uh, I

[1:33:43] would like to see those. And

[1:33:43] I

[1:33:44] m sure more of my colleagues

[1:33:45] will be interested in seeing

[1:33:47] that on a on a quarterly basis.

[1:33:49] Okay. And just so you know, to,

[1:33:50] for, you know, I, I actually

[1:33:53] had one of the SROs that was

[1:33:54] talking, uh, he actually came

[1:33:55] from the county and

[1:33:57] transitioned over, uh, to the

[1:34:01] city. And, um, you know, one of

[1:34:03] the I don

[1:34:05] t think the public

[1:34:07] really knows how much of an

[1:34:09] impact it has in terms of

[1:34:11] having these SROs in our

[1:34:13] schools, because he had he told

[1:34:15] me a story of one of his, one

[1:34:17] of the students, um, in the

[1:34:20] school that she never spoke to

[1:34:22] him. And at one time there was

[1:34:25] an incident where, uh, he had

[1:34:27] to restrain her from and, you

[1:34:28] know, a fight that was going on

[1:34:31] in the school. Uh, and she was

[1:34:34] very, very, um, disruptive. Um,

[1:34:36] and but he maintained

[1:34:38] continued speaking with that

[1:34:40] young lady. By the time the end

[1:34:41] of the school year came out,

[1:34:43] she came and hugged him. And

[1:34:45] for him, it was just one of

[1:34:47] those things where he sees the

[1:34:48] difference in it. I mean, and

[1:34:51] this is happening across our

[1:34:53] schools, but nobody ever really

[1:34:55] knows that because we

[1:34:56] re not

[1:34:57] talking about that publicly.

[1:34:59] And I just also want to make

[1:35:01] sure that we do a better job in

[1:35:02] making sure that we are

[1:35:03] highlighting a lot of these

[1:35:05] positive encounters that are

[1:35:06] happening because it

[1:35:06] s

[1:35:07] happening every day. We just

[1:35:07] don

[1:35:08] t, you know, we don

[1:35:08] t hear

[1:35:10] about them, and we only hear

[1:35:10] about when it

[1:35:12] s negative. So I

[1:35:13] just want to make sure that we

[1:35:15] also take some, you know, that

[1:35:17] opportunity to also highlight

[1:35:19] when when the good things are

[1:35:21] also happening with our SROs.

[1:35:23] As well. And I think we also

[1:35:24] saw one of the good things,

[1:35:26] chief, tonight and hearing you,

[1:35:28] uh, underscore the importance

[1:35:29] of having probable cause and

[1:35:31] reasonable suspicion, the

[1:35:33] suspicion, uh, prior to

[1:35:34] approaching any individual,

[1:35:36] regardless of age here. And I

[1:35:37] appreciate that that is a part

[1:35:39] of the enforcement, uh, and

[1:35:40] part of what we

[1:35:40] re passing on

[1:35:42] to our officers as they go out

[1:35:43] into the field. So thank you

[1:35:44] for saying that publicly as

[1:35:44] well.

[1:35:45] Yes, sir.

[1:35:46] All right. Thank you,

[1:35:46] COUNCILMAN Davis.

[1:35:48] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Uh, first

[1:35:49] of all, thank you, sir, for the

[1:35:51] presentation. Um, I think I

[1:35:53] wanted to speak towards the

[1:35:54] speeding. Um, you guys have

[1:35:56] been on a tremendous job,

[1:35:57] almost to the point where I

[1:35:57] m

[1:35:58] scared to leave my house now.

[1:35:59] Okay, to be honest with you,

[1:36:00] but I don

[1:36:00] t speak.

[1:36:00] That

[1:36:00] s that

[1:36:00] s what we

[1:36:01] re

[1:36:01] trying.

[1:36:01] I don

[1:36:02] t speak, by the way. Um,

[1:36:02] but.

[1:36:05] What are you scared for, MR.

[1:36:05] Mayor?

[1:36:07] Um, I do want to ask you,

[1:36:08] though, um, there was a

[1:36:10] comment, made a question asked

[1:36:12] at the, uh, coffee with the

[1:36:13] mayor this morning in reference

[1:36:16] to, um, officers having to meet

[1:36:18] a quota on giving out tickets.

[1:36:19] Could you speak to that so that

[1:36:21] we can, you know.

[1:36:24] Absolutely, absolutely no quota

[1:36:25] with tickets. Okay. That that

[1:36:27] does not exist. Thank you. That

[1:36:28] does not exist.

[1:36:30] Thank you. All right, um,

[1:36:31] before we go to round two for

[1:36:33] Mayor pro tem, I did have a

[1:36:34] couple of things I want to say.

[1:36:37] One. Um, chief, thank you for

[1:36:39] the thoroughness in the report.

[1:36:40] I want I wanted to point out

[1:36:41] something for the for the

[1:36:44] listening audience that, you

[1:36:44] know, we

[1:36:46] ve heard from two of

[1:36:47] the three components of public

[1:36:48] safety tonight. We

[1:36:48] ve heard

[1:36:50] from fire from police. I see,

[1:36:52] uh, MR. Jones back there with

[1:36:54] Oakes. The combination of what

[1:36:56] you all are doing are leading

[1:36:58] to these positive numbers that

[1:37:01] homicides almost in half, that

[1:37:03] these juvenile related issues

[1:37:05] that we have, uh, are trending

[1:37:07] in the right way. And so, you

[1:37:08] know, we

[1:37:09] ve gone through some

[1:37:11] tough times to make some tough

[1:37:13] decisions. But, you know,

[1:37:13] numbers don

[1:37:14] t have an opinion.

[1:37:15] They don

[1:37:16] t have an affiliation.

[1:37:16] They don

[1:37:17] t they don

[1:37:17] t they

[1:37:17] re

[1:37:20] not biased. Their numbers. And

[1:37:22] these are factual numbers that

[1:37:23] say that the combination of

[1:37:25] these things are working

[1:37:27] together for a good outcome.

[1:37:28] And I want to make sure we

[1:37:29] point that out from, you know,

[1:37:30] the sound thinking and

[1:37:32] ShotSpotter we had, you know,

[1:37:33] there was some public concern

[1:37:34] about that, but you

[1:37:34] re getting

[1:37:36] guns off the street. We

[1:37:36] ve seen

[1:37:38] arrests that come out of that.

[1:37:39] And and I want to make sure we

[1:37:41] highlight that the sro program,

[1:37:42] when we recently renewed that

[1:37:44] it was concerned that it was

[1:37:45] somehow going to have a

[1:37:46] negative impact. What I

[1:37:47] m

[1:37:48] seeing and I want to turn to

[1:37:48] this slide while I

[1:37:49] m saying

[1:37:50] this, if you could, the school

[1:37:53] resource officer program slide,

[1:37:54] I want the public to follow

[1:38:00] this for a minute. Uh, think it

[1:38:02] slide number. It says ten, but

[1:38:02] it

[1:38:04] s page five. In the overall

[1:38:07] scheme of things. Yeah. So

[1:38:13] basically the orange is 22 is

[1:38:14] reports. Yeah. That

[1:38:15] s incident

[1:38:16] reports okay. And then it calls

[1:38:21] for service okay. And so the

[1:38:24] comparison from year to year

[1:38:26] where is that that component.

[1:38:30] Because because you, you have a

[1:38:31] calls for service versus

[1:38:33] incident report. So how do you

[1:38:35] compare uh year to year on

[1:38:35] that.

[1:38:36] So we

[1:38:38] re into our second year

[1:38:39] of doing this now. And so now

[1:38:40] as I stated, we we

[1:38:41] re changing

[1:38:44] up our numbers from how we

[1:38:46] were. We were first doing it

[1:38:47] from AUGUST.

[1:38:48] From school calendar year.

[1:38:51] So I would say probably the end

[1:38:51] of this year, then we

[1:38:52] ll be

[1:38:53] able to get, you know, full

[1:38:55] year and then start making a

[1:38:55] comparison.

[1:38:55] So it

[1:38:56] ll be a solid 12 month

[1:38:58] comparison. Right? Okay. Okay.

[1:39:00] All right. That was one of the

[1:39:03] questions. And then two, um I

[1:39:05] saw that uh, on your on your

[1:39:07] gun seizures. Uh, I wrote

[1:39:11] myself a note on that. Um, you

[1:39:16] had. There out of the traffic

[1:39:21] stops, 20, 25, there were 167

[1:39:23] guns collectively seized. And

[1:39:24] of course, these are illegal

[1:39:26] weapons. Not not legal weapons.

[1:39:27] Right. Or does this count

[1:39:28] everything? Well, why would you

[1:39:30] see a legal weapon?

[1:39:32] It could be if if it was used

[1:39:34] in a crime or it wasn

[1:39:34] t, you

[1:39:35] know, it had to been some type

[1:39:37] of crime. So some.

[1:39:39] Prompted decision. Right. So

[1:39:43] 167 case last year 143 this

[1:39:44] year. These are just from the

[1:39:46] vehicle searches. Now does that

[1:39:50] also include uh or any of these

[1:39:51] statistics in any of these

[1:39:53] other categories, like where it

[1:39:54] says the number of weapons

[1:39:56] recovered from ShotSpotter? Um,

[1:39:58] so the is there a possibility

[1:39:59] that you responded to a

[1:40:01] ShotSpotter alert? But it also

[1:40:02] shows up on a on a vehicle?

[1:40:04] Stop it. Probably not. Correct.

[1:40:08] Well, probably a chance, but I

[1:40:10] mean, what we did, we kind of

[1:40:12] isolated the ShotSpotter and

[1:40:14] made that specific, uh, on

[1:40:15] those particular sides. So

[1:40:17] where you see the eight, eight

[1:40:19] weapons that were seized, that

[1:40:21] was specifically to

[1:40:21] ShotSpotter.

[1:40:22] Gotcha. Because I

[1:40:23] m just trying

[1:40:24] to get a collective total

[1:40:24] because that

[1:40:25] s a lot of guns.

[1:40:25] It

[1:40:26] s coming off the street

[1:40:28] between what I saw from the

[1:40:31] juvenile report, which was, um,

[1:40:32] and I don

[1:40:33] t know if if the

[1:40:34] public is tracking that, but

[1:40:36] cities across the country, I

[1:40:37] talked to mayors all the time.

[1:40:39] There has been an influx of

[1:40:41] guns in the availability of

[1:40:42] guns. And this is huge that

[1:40:43] you

[1:40:43] re you

[1:40:44] re scoring, you

[1:40:47] know, 130, 40 guns in traffic.

[1:40:47] You

[1:40:48] re getting some from

[1:40:49] ShotSpotter. You

[1:40:49] re getting

[1:40:50] others from from other sources.

[1:40:52] So you want to speak to that.

[1:40:54] So in terms of this so let

[1:40:54] s

[1:40:56] say for this traffic stop. So

[1:40:56] I

[1:40:57] ll give you an example. You

[1:41:00] could have a an alert that that

[1:41:02] goes off on the street here in

[1:41:06] Fayetteville. Um and officers

[1:41:09] respond to that alert. And

[1:41:11] within the alert there was a

[1:41:12] uh, maybe let

[1:41:12] s say there was a

[1:41:14] non woman call that accompanied

[1:41:16] it and say, hey, there was a a

[1:41:18] vehicle, um,n this area

[1:41:19] looking, you know, stopping.

[1:41:21] And so then we have a vehicle

[1:41:25] that would, um, respond. And in

[1:41:27] the course of responding to

[1:41:29] that ShotSpotter alert, they

[1:41:30] went ahead and stopped this

[1:41:32] vehicle. Gotcha. So then now

[1:41:34] you stop that vehicle, and then

[1:41:35] now you determine that it was a

[1:41:38] crime, whether, uh, related to

[1:41:41] a break in or possible, um,

[1:41:43] other, uh, possession of

[1:41:45] marijuana or anything in there.

[1:41:46] And then now you recover a

[1:41:50] weapon. So now that particular

[1:41:53] incident is included in all

[1:41:53] these traffic.

[1:41:54] Right? I understand.

[1:41:56] I understand, but you also have

[1:41:57] what we have the the

[1:41:58] ShotSpotter. So we

[1:41:59] ll do was

[1:42:01] tie that specifically to that

[1:42:03] which is that separate slide.

[1:42:05] But I would say that all that

[1:42:07] data is encompassed in the

[1:42:09] traffic stop report. That MAY

[1:42:12] have been, um, uh, under or

[1:42:13] from a ShotSpotter alert.

[1:42:15] Gotcha. All right. Well, um,

[1:42:16] that

[1:42:16] s all the questions I

[1:42:18] have. I, I just think that, you

[1:42:20] know, and then, uh, I guess the

[1:42:20] last piece, I

[1:42:21] ll say, I want to

[1:42:24] I want to one, um, publicly,

[1:42:26] uh, commend the participation

[1:42:27] of the parents. Right. That

[1:42:29] that in the curfew, there was a

[1:42:31] lot of concern about that. But

[1:42:33] what we see in the numbers,

[1:42:34] again, numbers don

[1:42:35] t have an

[1:42:39] opinion. And, uh, that, um,

[1:42:42] drug seizures are up 70%,

[1:42:45] weapons up, uh, 105%. So in

[1:42:48] other words, from 19 to 39, uh,

[1:42:51] weapons from 19 last year to 39

[1:42:53] this year. Um, and that, uh,

[1:42:56] break break ins are down 31%.

[1:42:58] Uh, and uh, motor vehicles are

[1:43:01] down 51%. So, uh, thank you. To

[1:43:02] the parents that are

[1:43:04] participating to just help us

[1:43:06] help keep some accountability

[1:43:08] in place. And and thank you to

[1:43:10] and the way this fits in and

[1:43:10] I

[1:43:10] ll, I

[1:43:11] ll get ready to pass

[1:43:13] the mic over to my colleagues.

[1:43:14] But the way this fits into the

[1:43:15] overall scheme of things, the

[1:43:17] way your departments work

[1:43:20] together, is that also, MR.

[1:43:23] Jones is going around the city,

[1:43:25] uh, creating programs that are

[1:43:27] alternatives for these kids.

[1:43:29] Uh, or some of our people in

[1:43:30] this community that have

[1:43:31] alternatives. So it

[1:43:32] s working

[1:43:33] together. Thank you. And good,

[1:43:34] good, good work for and thank

[1:43:36] you for the report tonight. So

[1:43:36] I

[1:43:37] ll go to, uh, Council Member

[1:43:38] McNair for the first round. And

[1:43:39] then we have second round

[1:43:41] lights.

[1:43:41] I

[1:43:42] m ready to make a motion.

[1:43:44] Okay, let me let me catch your

[1:43:45] colleagues. Mayor Pro tem.

[1:43:47] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Um, I

[1:43:48] just had a comment and one

[1:43:50] question that I forgot. Uh, we

[1:43:52] were talking about SROs, and I

[1:43:54] had an opportunity to speak to

[1:43:57] Jack Britt students and 71st

[1:43:58] students this year. I talked to

[1:44:00] the principal, Doctor Tillman

[1:44:01] and Jack Britt and Doctor King

[1:44:03] over at Cindy. First. They

[1:44:05] applaud the SROs in the great

[1:44:06] jobs that they

[1:44:07] re doing. When I

[1:44:09] spoke to 71st High school, uh,

[1:44:11] seniors during their graduation

[1:44:13] practice, the sro was at the

[1:44:15] door giving out pounds to all

[1:44:16] 300 students that was

[1:44:18] graduating that year. I thought

[1:44:19] that was a testament to the

[1:44:20] great job that they

[1:44:20] re doing.

[1:44:22] Uh, speaking of schools, my

[1:44:23] question I forgot to ask

[1:44:26] earlier is we had a battalion

[1:44:28] of CEOs coming here about some

[1:44:29] complaints a couple of months

[1:44:31] ago. Have all their concerns

[1:44:31] been addressed? I can

[1:44:31] t even

[1:44:33] remember what they were.

[1:44:34] The concern is that the

[1:44:35] speeding, the careless and

[1:44:38] reckless driving in the the,

[1:44:40] um, during Norton school zones

[1:44:42] so that that that issue is, is

[1:44:44] still being addressed in terms

[1:44:45] of with our traffic department

[1:44:48] and enforcement out there. Now,

[1:44:50] the commission just recently

[1:44:52] met and, um, we

[1:44:53] re on track to

[1:44:56] get the approval with all the

[1:44:57] standard operating procedures

[1:44:59] and everything else and how it

[1:45:00] will be consistent throughout

[1:45:02] the state. Um, by JANUARY is

[1:45:04] what we believe. Um, yeah,

[1:45:07] JANUARY of this upcoming year.

[1:45:09] Um, we believe that the

[1:45:10] approvals and everything else

[1:45:12] will be done by the commission,

[1:45:13] and then we

[1:45:13] ll be able to

[1:45:15] implement the school zones and

[1:45:17] the red light cameras.

[1:45:18] And how many Tecos are we short

[1:45:19] for this school year?

[1:45:22] So our numbers fluctuate. We

[1:45:27] have about 65, um, on average,

[1:45:29] and those fluctuate because

[1:45:29] it

[1:45:30] s a part time position. So

[1:45:31] therefore we

[1:45:32] re always if

[1:45:32] you

[1:45:33] ll see um regarding when

[1:45:35] our, our our turnover, that

[1:45:35] s

[1:45:37] probably our highest turnover

[1:45:39] within the department. Um, for

[1:45:41] one reason or the other.

[1:45:42] But if we have residents that

[1:45:43] look for some part time work

[1:45:45] for $20 an hour, we can show

[1:45:46] enough. Use your manpower.

[1:45:47] Thank you. Chief. Yes, sir.

[1:45:49] All right. Councilmember

[1:45:50] McMillan, second round.

[1:45:53] Yep. Thank you, MR. Mayor. Um,

[1:45:54] chief, one of the things that

[1:45:56] kept me engaged, uh, over the

[1:45:58] years with council was pushing

[1:46:00] to ensure we had a humane

[1:46:02] response, uh, to to crime, to

[1:46:04] mental health response, uh,

[1:46:06] mental health crisis. Um,

[1:46:09] according to police scorecard

[1:46:13] scorecard.Org. Um, we remain

[1:46:15] and and have been for a while.

[1:46:16] Uh, near the top of the list in

[1:46:18] terms of small cities in North

[1:46:20] Carolina and a statistic called

[1:46:24] a deadly force per arrest. Uh,

[1:46:26] and, you know, there

[1:46:27] s there

[1:46:28] s

[1:46:29] some people who have died over

[1:46:31] the years. Uh, Jada Johnson is

[1:46:33] one of them. Adrian Roberts and

[1:46:35] another one, Joshua Oxendine.

[1:46:37] Uh, and questions about whether

[1:46:38] or not we could have had a

[1:46:41] different response. Uh, when I

[1:46:43] see the numbers of use of force

[1:46:45] going up, uh, from last year,

[1:46:46] this year, of course, I have

[1:46:48] that same concern. I wonder

[1:46:48] that we didn

[1:46:49] t move far enough

[1:46:51] policy wise to address that.

[1:46:52] Um, I

[1:46:53] m wondering what your

[1:46:56] take is on the increase. I

[1:47:00] think it was from 37, 37 to 47,

[1:47:02] 27% increase in use of force.

[1:47:04] What does that mean for us as a

[1:47:05] city? And what are we doing to

[1:47:06] to address that?

[1:47:08] Okay. So I can start with I

[1:47:10] know today we actually had a

[1:47:11] meeting with Chief Wallace and

[1:47:13] Officers, Office of Community

[1:47:15] Safety Director Jones, and

[1:47:16] coming up with plans and

[1:47:18] strategies for the alternative

[1:47:21] response. So as, uh, OKs gets

[1:47:23] their teams together, then

[1:47:23] we

[1:47:25] re going to have a better

[1:47:27] approach in addressing, uh,

[1:47:29] some of these issues with those

[1:47:30] that are in mental health

[1:47:32] crisis. But unfortunately,

[1:47:33] right now, when those calls

[1:47:35] come out, we are the only

[1:47:37] answer until we can get some of

[1:47:40] these other resources in place.

[1:47:42] I would also, uh, state in

[1:47:45] terms of there are multiple,

[1:47:48] multiple incidents that occur

[1:47:50] every day in this city

[1:47:54] regarding mental health crisis.

[1:47:54] But you don

[1:47:56] t hear about them

[1:47:56] and you don

[1:47:57] t hear about them

[1:47:58] because been successful

[1:48:00] in being able to mitigate those

[1:48:02] situations. So the ones that

[1:48:04] you do here are the ones where

[1:48:06] we have the unfortunate, uh,

[1:48:08] situations such as that you

[1:48:09] relayed, but there

[1:48:10] s always

[1:48:11] some other circumstances that

[1:48:13] not everybody is aware of also.

[1:48:16] But I will tell you that we

[1:48:20] have a, a an excellent, um, uh,

[1:48:21] officers, in terms of how we

[1:48:23] deal with these situations.

[1:48:25] Just this past week, we had,

[1:48:28] uh, barricaded subjects. You

[1:48:31] know, no one knows about this,

[1:48:32] but we deal with that, and we

[1:48:35] are are utilizing our, our

[1:48:37] particular, uh, tactics and

[1:48:38] everything to make sure that we

[1:48:41] have a safe outcome for our

[1:48:43] officers as well as those in

[1:48:46] those crisis. So it happens so

[1:48:49] many times, but our public is

[1:48:50] unaware of it, and we deal with

[1:48:54] that on a day, day by day, uh,

[1:48:56] occasion. So, um, I believe,

[1:48:59] you know, we, we do the best we

[1:49:01] can, but, you know, future and

[1:49:03] future wise with when Oaks gets

[1:49:04] on, you know, get their

[1:49:05] staffing. We

[1:49:06] re looking forward

[1:49:07] to being able to address those

[1:49:10] issues in even better ways as

[1:49:11] well.

[1:49:13] Right? Yeah, I appreciate that.

[1:49:15] Looking forward to tracking the

[1:49:16] numbers and seeing those

[1:49:20] numbers come down. Um, um,

[1:49:21] downrange. There

[1:49:21] s something

[1:49:23] called storyboard reporting,

[1:49:25] uh, where are we get in this,

[1:49:27] uh, this habit of holding up

[1:49:29] examples. Good, good news

[1:49:33] stories, anecdotes, and maybe

[1:49:35] emphasize those a little bit

[1:49:37] more than the the the data. Uh,

[1:49:39] would love to continue to hear

[1:49:40] the good news stories about the

[1:49:42] things that your, your force is

[1:49:45] doing on the streets. Um, uh,

[1:49:47] and especially a shift in our

[1:49:50] approach to how we engage with

[1:49:52] citizens. But also, we

[1:49:52] d love

[1:49:55] to see data like use of force,

[1:49:57] uh, that, that matches, you

[1:49:59] know, that shift in terms of

[1:50:00] policy and council member.

[1:50:00] Time

[1:50:02] s up. Second round. All

[1:50:04] right. Uh, Councilmember Jones,

[1:50:04] I think it

[1:50:05] s your first round.

[1:50:07] Is your light on? Are you ready

[1:50:08] to vote?

[1:50:08] You ready to vote?

[1:50:09] Oh, no.

[1:50:10] Just a quick, quick. Yeah, I

[1:50:12] was waiting.

[1:50:12] She

[1:50:13] s got a motion.

[1:50:14] Okay. All right. Very quickly.

[1:50:17] Uh, I just wanted to find out,

[1:50:18] uh, chief, about your the

[1:50:20] mental health support for your

[1:50:22] staff. I mean, I know you all

[1:50:23] do. A you encounter a lot of

[1:50:26] things. Uh, and your officers

[1:50:28] and other staff, they have

[1:50:29] families, too, that they have

[1:50:30] to go on to. So can you just

[1:50:32] speak to how what is that look

[1:50:33] like right now? And I know

[1:50:34] there MAY be some opportunities

[1:50:35] in the future, but what what

[1:50:37] does that look like?

[1:50:38] Right now? We have our

[1:50:40] chaplains program. Uh, whenever

[1:50:44] we have a critical incident, we

[1:50:46] we call our chaplains, and they

[1:50:46] they

[1:50:47] ll come out 2 or 3:00 in

[1:50:50] the morning, um, when we have,

[1:50:51] you know, critical incidents

[1:50:53] that officers are dealing with.

[1:50:56] And so we, we have that

[1:50:57] partnership with them. We also

[1:50:59] have our peer support program

[1:51:02] as well, where we monitor how

[1:51:04] many critical incidents that

[1:51:05] actually happens with our

[1:51:06] officers. And then we

[1:51:07] ll make

[1:51:09] sure and reach out to them to

[1:51:11] get them, uh, any counseling

[1:51:12] services or requests for

[1:51:13] counseling services. But you

[1:51:16] also know we received a grant

[1:51:18] for a licensed cli social

[1:51:19] worker. So we

[1:51:20] re in the process

[1:51:22] of, of getting that that all

[1:51:23] laid out so that we can do

[1:51:25] that. Advertisement and have

[1:51:27] that person on, on, on board

[1:51:28] full time.

[1:51:29] Thank you so much. Thank you,

[1:51:30] MR. Mayor.

[1:51:31] Yes, sir. COUNCILMAN Hondros,

[1:51:32] first round.

[1:51:33] Yes, sir. Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[1:51:35] Thank you. Chief, um, and my

[1:51:36] colleague to my right here

[1:51:37] stole my thunder a little bit.

[1:51:39] But this this question was for,

[1:51:40] uh, Chief Dove and and Chief

[1:51:43] Brian, are we doing all that we

[1:51:45] can to support our women and

[1:51:47] men in uniform? And as my

[1:51:49] colleague mentioned, um, you

[1:51:52] know, we dial 911, you know, in

[1:51:54] the worst moments of our life,

[1:51:56] right? And you guys respond and

[1:51:58] you deal with that. So as a

[1:51:59] council, are we doing

[1:52:01] everything we can to support,

[1:52:04] um, again, the men and women

[1:52:05] and men in the uniform and, and

[1:52:07] our number one operators, I

[1:52:07] mean, they

[1:52:09] re on the call that

[1:52:12] sometimes ends tragically. So

[1:52:15] what can we do to support, um,

[1:52:18] both agencies. And again, the

[1:52:19] nine, 11 operators.

[1:52:20] I would say it

[1:52:21] s one of those

[1:52:22] things where when we we come to

[1:52:25] you and request the support,

[1:52:27] where resources that, you know,

[1:52:29] and I would say, you know, just

[1:52:31] continue and supporting us. Um,

[1:52:33] but it takes more than council

[1:52:35] the community, the community is

[1:52:37] critical in terms of the morale

[1:52:39] of our officers. So, for

[1:52:41] example, uh, this weekend, on

[1:52:43] Saturday, uh, Lewis Chapel

[1:52:45] Missionary Baptist Church, the

[1:52:45] men

[1:52:47] s ministry, they served our

[1:52:48] officers, all our first

[1:52:51] responders, fire fighters. This

[1:52:51] weekend. They served them

[1:52:54] lunch. And, you know, the the

[1:52:56] morale. And just to have, um,

[1:52:58] you know, the community come in

[1:53:00] on their, you know, on their

[1:53:02] own dime and, and on their time

[1:53:04] off to come and serve those

[1:53:05] officers. So those type of

[1:53:06] things are what we need from

[1:53:08] our community. And it

[1:53:08] s very

[1:53:11] much appreciated. So I can

[1:53:11] t,

[1:53:13] you know, just tell you in, in

[1:53:13] what we

[1:53:14] re doing in terms

[1:53:15] continue to having support.

[1:53:17] When you see our officer, we

[1:53:20] get we continuously get, uh,

[1:53:21] atta boys, what we call in the

[1:53:23] military where people call or

[1:53:24] they send. I just received a

[1:53:26] letter today where people in

[1:53:28] the community, they send in and

[1:53:29] let us know, and we make sure

[1:53:31] and relay that message to the

[1:53:34] officers. We had a call from an

[1:53:36] elderly man that actually was

[1:53:37] talking about our cadets that

[1:53:39] stopped and helped him. Uh, two

[1:53:41] weeks ago, he left a voicemail.

[1:53:44] So we were making sure. So when

[1:53:46] we get these calls, all of that

[1:53:48] helps in terms of the morale

[1:53:51] and the the mental health, uh,

[1:53:52] capacity in terms of knowing

[1:53:53] that, hey, you know, that your

[1:53:57] community has your back.

[1:53:58] Real quick, MR. Mayor, since

[1:54:00] you on that note, chief, talk

[1:54:01] about National Night of.

[1:54:02] Because you didn

[1:54:02] t you didn

[1:54:02] t

[1:54:04] speak about National Night Out,

[1:54:05] and that just happened last

[1:54:07] week or week before last.

[1:54:08] So we didn

[1:54:08] t talk about it

[1:54:10] because it happened during this

[1:54:12] quarter. So, um, we were going

[1:54:13] to present that during the

[1:54:13] third quarter.

[1:54:14] I just wanted you to know that

[1:54:16] the community appreciates what

[1:54:16] you

[1:54:16] re doing because they

[1:54:18] showed up in droves at National

[1:54:19] Night Out, even in all that

[1:54:20] rain. Right. So so we do

[1:54:21] appreciate you. Yes, sir.

[1:54:23] Yes, sir. All right.

[1:54:24] Councilmember McNair.

[1:54:28] Oh, thank you, MR. Mayor. Shut

[1:54:30] up. Um. Thank you, chief. Great

[1:54:33] report. Um, and thank you for,

[1:54:36] um, the ride along. Yes, I, I

[1:54:36] d

[1:54:38] like to encourage mylleagues, if they haven

[1:54:39] t

[1:54:40] scheduled a ride along with the

[1:54:44] chief, you must do so. District

[1:54:46] seven. It was an awesome time

[1:54:49] that day. Uh, it was calm. It

[1:54:51] was right. He invited me.

[1:54:52] To slow him down. They

[1:54:52] re

[1:54:52] getting.

[1:54:54] A message inviting me to. To

[1:54:57] wear a bulletproof vest. I

[1:55:00] know. No front. That

[1:55:01] s it. So,

[1:55:03] um, that being said, uh, I

[1:55:06] would like to make a motion to

[1:55:08] receive, um, the Fayetteville

[1:55:11] Police Department 2026 second

[1:55:12] quarter report.

[1:55:14] All right. As much motion by

[1:55:15] Councilmember McNair, seconded

[1:55:18] by Councilmember Ferguson had a

[1:55:19] lot of discussion on this. So,

[1:55:21] Council. Seeing none, I look to

[1:55:25] you for your votes.

[1:55:26] In the meantime, I have an

[1:55:27] alibi. Just like to mention

[1:55:31] that our class 26-1 graduates

[1:55:32] tomorrow. We have 20 officers

[1:55:34] that are graduating. Uh, we

[1:55:36] started out with 22. So that is

[1:55:39] a phenomenal rate in terms of

[1:55:39] what we

[1:55:39] re talking about

[1:55:41] graduating rate. But in

[1:55:42] addition to that, we

[1:55:42] ve had

[1:55:45] almost 50% of that graduating

[1:55:47] class were females. That

[1:55:47] s

[1:55:47] awesome. So we

[1:55:48] re we

[1:55:48] re.

[1:55:48] We

[1:55:48] re we

[1:55:49] re.

[1:55:49] We

[1:55:49] re bringing them.

[1:55:50] Through.

[1:55:51] Uh, that

[1:55:52] s a great statistic.

[1:55:54] And thank you. Congratulations

[1:55:55] to the new graduates. And

[1:55:56] chief. Thank you. And all of

[1:55:58] the members of our law

[1:55:59] enforcement, as well as our

[1:56:01] fire department. Ocs, for thank

[1:56:02] you for a great job of keeping

[1:56:03] our community safe. So we

[1:56:04] appreciate it.

[1:56:05] Thank you.

[1:56:06] All right, all right. Council

[1:56:08] moving to, uh, the final item

[1:56:12] is 10.01 authorization for fire

[1:56:15] station for site prep. Good

[1:56:16] evening sir.

[1:56:18] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Mayor,

[1:56:20] Pro Tem, Council members and

[1:56:24] staff. Yes, sir. Okay, now I

[1:56:26] have to find it. Sabina, any

[1:56:36] help with this?

[1:56:38] Got it up everywhere.

[1:56:39] Oh.

[1:56:42] Oh.

[1:56:45] Yes, they are

[1:56:48] Thank you. Thank you very much.

[1:56:50] All right. So, council members,

[1:56:51] thank you for having me here

[1:56:52] tonight. My name is Dan

[1:56:53] LaMontagne. I work with Freeze

[1:56:54] and Nichols. I work under

[1:56:55] contract for the city with the

[1:56:56] construction management

[1:56:58] department. Uh, we

[1:56:59] re here

[1:56:59] today. I

[1:57:01] m here tonight to talk

[1:57:02] to you about Fire Station four,

[1:57:04] phase one. And ask for

[1:57:05] authorization to move forward

[1:57:07] with phase one, which is site

[1:57:09] preparation that will consist

[1:57:11] of establishing a new project

[1:57:12] using approximately 1.53

[1:57:15] million of geo bond premiums

[1:57:16] and remaining fire station for

[1:57:18] project funds. We will prepare

[1:57:19] a safe, stable, build ready

[1:57:21] site that consists of site

[1:57:23] clearing, grading, filling,

[1:57:25] stabilizing the site,

[1:57:27] installation and security, get

[1:57:28] getting permits and

[1:57:29] inspections, and then of

[1:57:31] course, testing, documenting

[1:57:32] and closing out the project of

[1:57:35] the site clearing. We also ask

[1:57:36] you to authorize coming group

[1:57:38] to provide project management

[1:57:40] services under their scope. And

[1:57:41] we

[1:57:41] re asking for authorization

[1:57:43] to begin the competitive

[1:57:44] qualifications based

[1:57:45] Construction Manager at risk

[1:57:47] selection process. Uh,

[1:57:49] construction pricing schedule

[1:57:51] and such will come back to

[1:57:53] council for authorization

[1:57:56] later. When that is complete.

[1:57:57] We have a schedule. This is

[1:57:58] just a workingedule. This

[1:58:01] will be refined as we move

[1:58:01] forward and get the

[1:58:03] construction manager at risk.

[1:58:07] On on us. Uh, under contract.

[1:58:07] Um, we

[1:58:08] re here in quarter

[1:58:10] three. Uh, Council, considering

[1:58:12] this phase one authorization,

[1:58:13] we have to complete the ongoing

[1:58:16] salvage this month. Um, it the

[1:58:19] site preparation, procurement.

[1:58:20] Uh, that

[1:58:21] s, uh, the contractors

[1:58:23] for that and also begin that

[1:58:27] same evaluation quarter for we

[1:58:29] plan to begin site preparation

[1:58:31] with, finalize the cmr

[1:58:34] selection and onboarding. Um,

[1:58:35] validate the design and the

[1:58:38] project costs and the schedule.

[1:58:40] Then in first quarter 27,

[1:58:42] complete the site prep and

[1:58:45] pre-construction reviews. Um,

[1:58:46] the council will consider that

[1:58:47] proposed construction price

[1:58:50] schedule and authorize that and

[1:58:51] first quarter and then

[1:58:53] following this, uh, council

[1:58:54] s

[1:58:55] approval, we

[1:58:55] ll begin

[1:58:57] replacement construction. We

[1:58:57] ll

[1:58:58] publish the validated

[1:59:01] milestones with the cmr. Um,

[1:59:03] and when the final completion

[1:59:06] move in date would be. And

[1:59:08] finally, I want to point out

[1:59:09] that the city has put together

[1:59:12] a project website for this

[1:59:13] project. We know there

[1:59:13] s

[1:59:15] considerable community interest

[1:59:17] in it. So all information to be

[1:59:19] able to go to this site and

[1:59:20] find out everything that

[1:59:20] s

[1:59:23] happening on the project, and a

[1:59:25] very short presentation for you

[1:59:25] tonight. So that

[1:59:26] s the end of

[1:59:26] that.

[1:59:29] Not mad with that. All right.

[1:59:33] Council any um, uh, comments or

[1:59:36] questions. I think we covered a

[1:59:38] little bit upstairs, but but

[1:59:40] basically, um, you MAY have

[1:59:44] covered it. Um, tonight, uh,

[1:59:46] this is the approval of this,

[1:59:48] uh, MR. Yates, was there a

[1:59:49] component that you needed to

[1:59:53] explain or, um, no. Okay.

[1:59:55] Like MISS Murray, to address

[1:59:56] some of the budget.

[1:59:57] MR. Yates had been the one we

[1:59:58] were working on. How you doing,

[1:59:58] MISS Murray?

[1:59:58] I

[1:59:59] m doing.

[2:00:01] Fine.

[2:00:03] Are there any questions for me?

[2:00:04] Oh, no. I just wanted to make

[2:00:05] sure it wasn

[2:00:06] t. So. Basically,

[2:00:08] uh, with this. This is, uh,

[2:00:10] this is kind of a a new phase

[2:00:12] as well. Site prep it, and and,

[2:00:12] uh, we

[2:00:13] ll move here. I think

[2:00:15] you talked to us about, uh,

[2:00:16] that the expenses related to

[2:00:17] this will be tracked

[2:00:20] separately. And, uh, the, the

[2:00:21] other or the older expenses,

[2:00:23] uh, that that particular

[2:00:25] bucket, uh, for lack of a

[2:00:26] better word, will be reconciled

[2:00:28] and closed out. So this this

[2:00:29] phase will have it separate

[2:00:31] line of expenses and and costs.

[2:00:32] Correct?

[2:00:32] That

[2:00:33] s correct. Okay. We

[2:00:33] re

[2:00:35] going to close the old project

[2:00:37] and do a new project. And

[2:00:37] that

[2:00:38] s part of the action

[2:00:38] tonight.

[2:00:40] Gotcha. All right. Thank you

[2:00:40] ma

[2:00:41] am. All right. Council

[2:00:43] member Hondros.

[2:00:44] Thank you, MR. Mayor. Thank you

[2:00:48] Dan. And, uh, cfo. I appreciate

[2:00:49] you all coming up. So the

[2:00:51] question I asked of acm

[2:00:56] upstairs was the cpo 20, 1934,

[2:00:58] in our agenda packet, as well

[2:01:01] as cpo 2027 one, um, which is,

[2:01:04] as you stated, closing out. Um,

[2:01:06] cfo Murray, the the old project

[2:01:07] and starting this new one. But

[2:01:08] can you speak a little bit to

[2:01:10] the funding of those numbers?

[2:01:11] Uh, how much have we spent to

[2:01:14] date on that project, the one

[2:01:14] we

[2:01:15] re closing out? How much are

[2:01:17] we transferring over? And, um,

[2:01:19] those thi please?

[2:01:24] Yes. Um, sorry. So, um, the

[2:01:27] original project, when it was

[2:01:28] brought before council, was for

[2:01:32] a total of 11.4 million. Um,

[2:01:35] almost 11.5 of that. We had a

[2:01:38] general fund transfer of 1.2

[2:01:41] ish. Um, and we did a financing

[2:01:44] for 10.3. So of that funding,

[2:01:45] we

[2:01:49] ve spent a little over $7.6

[2:01:51] million. So that

[2:01:51] s what we

[2:01:51] re

[2:01:53] going to be closing out in this

[2:01:55] particular project. And we

[2:01:55] re

[2:01:56] going to transfer the remaining

[2:01:59] funds, which is $3.8 million,

[2:02:01] into a new capital project. Um,

[2:02:03] along with some bond premium

[2:02:05] that we received from the

[2:02:07] issuance of the first tranche

[2:02:11] of the $97 million referendum.

[2:02:12] Um, if you remember, earlier

[2:02:14] this year, we issued $40

[2:02:15] million, and we

[2:02:15] re going to

[2:02:17] take some of that premium. And,

[2:02:19] um, assign it to this

[2:02:22] particular project in order for

[2:02:23] us to move forward.

[2:02:24] In. The premium came from rate

[2:02:26] reductions, and our stellar

[2:02:27] credit. Is that right?

[2:02:30] The premium did not come from

[2:02:32] rate reductions. Okay. Um, the

[2:02:34] bond premium, um, essentially,

[2:02:37] um, when the city, um, decides

[2:02:39] to issue bonds and we issue

[2:02:41] bonds at a premium, that is

[2:02:42] because the rate on our bonds

[2:02:45] is higher than what the market

[2:02:47] is currently. So they give us

[2:02:49] additional money or they pay

[2:02:50] additional money on the face

[2:02:52] value of the bonds. Essentially

[2:02:52] what we

[2:02:54] re doing is we

[2:02:54] re

[2:02:55] getting upfront money, but

[2:02:56] we

[2:02:57] ll pay higher interest rates

[2:02:59] over the life of the bonds.

[2:03:02] Very good. Um, and I also was

[2:03:04] thankful that, um, we had the,

[2:03:06] uh, finally got the website

[2:03:08] page where residents can track

[2:03:10] the progress on the project.

[2:03:13] Will the, um, budget

[2:03:14] information be on that page or

[2:03:15] not?

[2:03:17] I have not looked at the link

[2:03:19] for that page, so I will have

[2:03:24] to defer to Dan.

[2:03:25] Very good. Thank you so much.

[2:03:28] Thank you..

[2:03:30] All right, Council, I

[2:03:30] ll look

[2:03:40] to you for action on this.

[2:03:41] Mayor Pro Tem.

[2:03:42] I recommend that we approve

[2:03:43] phase one. MR. Mayor.

[2:03:45] All right. Motion by Mayor Pro

[2:03:47] Tem to approve phase one.

[2:03:49] Seconded by Davis. Discussion

[2:03:51] on the motion. All right,

[2:03:52] counselor, look to you for your

[2:04:00] votes.

[2:04:03] Thank you. Council.

[2:04:06] All right. All right. Thank

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