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[Music]
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good afternoon calling to order the um
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city council meeting of August 29th at
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4:05 p.m. may we have a roll call please
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council member aadrian here dine here
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kakin
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narian and mayor bman here and may we
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have your report uh close Session One
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close session 18 conference with legal
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council pending litigation sadari versus
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city of glendel LC case number
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20cv
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34372 B would be conference with legal
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councel pending litigation at Garian
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versus the city of glendel at all lasc
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case number 21 STC V
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0756 and itmc has been moved to further
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date thank you do we anticipate
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reporting out on any of these items uh
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Mr Mayor we anticipate reporting on item
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1 a 1 a okay uh no public comments I
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assume so we will com no calls we will
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recess to close
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session
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[Music]
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good evening and welcome to the August
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29th meeting of the Glendale city
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council being called to order at 6:04
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pm. may we have roll call please yes
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council members aadan Divine here kakan
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here naaran mayor botman
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here uh now uh would everybody please
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rise for the Pledge of
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Allegiance repeat after me I pledge
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allegiance to the flag of the United
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States of America and to the Republic
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for which it stands one nation under God
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indivisible with liberty and justice for
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all please remain standing for the
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invocation I will read a modified
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excerpt from an invocation by hila
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rabi this land we dwell upon today is
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the ancestral land of the Gabrielino
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Tanga people we acknowledge their hisor
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oral roots in this place and the many
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generations who are stewards of this
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land the Earth was here before us and
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will endure after we are
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gone let us walk gently upon this
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precious Planet taking only what we need
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leaving little waste nurturing the soil
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revitalizing the land to sustain future
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Generations thank you thank you you may
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be
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seated
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okay uh Madame clerk may we have your
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report please yes the agenda for the
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August 29 2023 regular meeting of the
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Glendale city council was posted on
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August 24th 2023 on the bulletin board
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outside City Hall thank you and what is
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our next item next our presentations and
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appointments the first one is um
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regarding the agenda the regular meeting
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for the city council on September 5th
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2023 has have been cancelled the next
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regular meeting will be held on
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September 12th
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2023 okay and before you read out the
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next item
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um is um is Talia hpan here in the
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audience she's there okay I know council
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member asatrian wanted to address you so
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can we just move the order on the chance
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that she will show up oh there she is
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um well
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in that case let's let's just go on then
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she is here so let's go on with
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that um uh Commendation for Talia hpan
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California Bears Youth Hockey
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Club thank you and I going to turn this
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over to the just in time council member
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asatrian to read the Commendation and um
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and maybe as she does this could um
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Talia and her family come up to the
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podium
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please um before uh I read the
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Commendation I just want to give
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everyone a little bit of a background uh
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I have the honor of introducing and
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recognizing a young Trail Blazer in
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glendell uh Talia hpan is 11 years old
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who is um here with her parents Anie and
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shahnur uh she plays leftwing with
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California Bears Youth Hockey Club and
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coached by former National Hockey League
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player Alexander
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frolov uh Talia is the only female
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player on the boys travel team and has
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participated in tournaments throughout
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the United States um she has a very long
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resume um but I do want to note that um
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in July 2023 three um she was uh one of
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two of her achievements included uh
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number one in tournament goals scored 14
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and 18 points and she was named player
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of the game
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award um and then in the regular season
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um she helped the team play second in
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California um if we can give her a round
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of
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applause
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[Applause]
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um and the commodation it's the mayor's
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commodation and it reads presented to
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Talia hpan in recognition of your
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exceptional accomplishments and
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unwavering dedication as the sole female
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hockey player on a boy team your
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commitment to the sport your teammates
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and your community serves as an
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inspiring example of perseverance
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resilience and breaking down barriers on
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behalf of the city of we wish you
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continued success and assigned mayor Dan
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brotman Right
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congratulations congratulations you want
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to go down and do a
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picture we'll do a photo op
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first are we all doing it yeah you want
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to might as well let's
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go
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abuse discrimination The Voice were good
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to you all
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know hi are we we'll just the back want
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to go over
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here
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that thank you thank you thank you very
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much we might want to ask you a
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question
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so
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Talia what is T Talia what is your
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favorite team for professional hockey
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valet Kings all right that was the right
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answer good
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[Laughter]
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job uh we asked you to stay there for a
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minute because we have a
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former
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um coach coach and
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teacher um here who may have may have a
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question well I I just well I did what
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you know um back in the day when I was
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coaching and Girls Athletic Director Etc
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we had one girl that was on the soccer
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team the boys soccer team and she had a
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real problem with harassment and um uh
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kind of abuse that we had to deal with
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and so I was asking Tanya if she
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experienced any of that and she said
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no no and that's that speaks volumes uh
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for today's um Sports Athletics and uh
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uh boys and girls playing together and
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so
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congratulations uh you are Paving the
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way for others and uh uh I wish you all
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the best thank you you're welcome you
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congratulations okay on that fun note um
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what is
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next next is the identification of
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nominating panel for building and fire
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board of appeals commission uh kakan and
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divine thank you and there's no action
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right
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no and next is the appointment of ARA
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hataman to the Civil Service Commission
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uh by brotman and divine
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82223
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okay um yes uh Mr hatamian if you could
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come forward and if you would like to
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bring your lovely
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family uh they can they can join
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you we had the pleasure of Hosting them
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here and they sat right in this chair
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and hel a mock council meeting I do want
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to thank Talia for going before
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me you broke the ice get it hocky
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both eyes that's a bad J okay so we'll
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first take uh a motion and a second and
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a vote do we
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have I'll move our atamian for civil
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service commissioner a second second
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from council member asatrian very good
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so let's have a roll call please council
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members zadan yes Divine yes kakan yes
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Naran mayor botman yes congrats uh
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congratulations thank you
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so
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um as you know but the audience may not
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know uh you were chosen through
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initially well you were chosen here by
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the vote that just took place but you
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were nominated uh to this Council by um
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uh council member Divine and myself
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through a panel process which we have
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just started so we had a panel of two we
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interviewed a number of candidates a
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number of very strong
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candidates um but you clearly stood out
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I would say um with your your experience
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at work and also the fact that you have
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done this before um and um I believe had
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to step down from the commission because
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uh of a family new child who's now which
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which one two of them oh two of them
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okay but now you're back with us and
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we're very very excited to have you here
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um so congratulations and if there's
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something you would like to say uh
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please uh feel fre thank you Mr bran
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thank you glenell city council for uh
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giving me this pleasure to serve the
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city once again um it is a true honor to
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be a commissioner I brought my family
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along just as an example of you know
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what glendel produces they are a product
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of glendell Unified School District uh
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my youngest one attends Mark keple uh my
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oldest one is at toll and my middle one
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is still at Mark keple also as a matter
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of fact my old this one was the treasure
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for marle and I just found out that we
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also have additional toll students here
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also uh so that's why I brought my
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family along just as a representation of
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glendell so I do want to thank you for
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this opportunity and I look forward to
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serving the city thank you very much
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thank you very awesome thank you for
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your willingness to serve
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again of backgound oh before you before
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you go Mr atamian could you just spend
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one or two minutes telling us about your
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backr ground oh absolutely so so we all
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know yes who you are we talked about it
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a little bit last last week when we
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nominated you but absolutely it be my
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pleasure so I work for LA County um I
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started in LA county at the DA's office
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when I was attending Law School uh I
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worked in their PR prelim unit uh after
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that point on I went into the
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disciplinary section of the sheriff's
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apartment uh where I worked for 14 years
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uh administrating law enforcement
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discipline
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uh and now I'm with the Department of
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Mental Health I am their manager over
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their health and safety and employee
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relations unit uh and right now we are
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facing many different challenges uh at
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the Department of Mental Health mainly
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being homelessness the homelessness
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crisis uh and so we are actively
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involved with that and obviously prior
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to that I was on the commission on the
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Civil Service Commission uh outside of
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the commission and working for LA County
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I was also Al a teacher uh I've been
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teaching as an adjunct faculty for
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colleges in this area uh I've published
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a book on employment law um so I have a
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little bit of background on employment
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law and the government sector my
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beautiful wife she also works in the
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government sector she works for County
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Council she's an attorney for their
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dependency unit that deals with the
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foster care system of children uh so we
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pride ourselves on serving the community
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and um especially the you know the jeel
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city as much as we can thank you thank
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you thank you we're very very happy to
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to have you and um you know free Talent
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it's uh pretty
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incredible we'll talk about that
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later thank you so much appreciate it
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thank you for your willingness to come
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back and serve thank you thank you good
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job okay and what is
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next next our consent items including
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minutes the following our routina may be
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acted upon by one motion any member of
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council or the audience requesting
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separate consideration may do so by
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making such requests before motion is
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proposed uh do we have any uh public
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comments we do not have any public
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comments and do any I I'll move the
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conent calendar we have a motion I'll
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second second okay roll call
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please council members aadrian yes
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divine yes kakan yes Nan mayor botman
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yes very good moving right along what is
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next next our city council and staff
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comments okay sure council member Divine
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thank you thank you very much um as most
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of you
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know um we are currently working the
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airport authority of which I am a member
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along with council member narian
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currently working on the replacement
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Passenger Terminal project and um holder
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panal Tech that it's a a joint venture
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uh will be holding a sub subcontractor
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Community information session they are
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looking for local community uh
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businesses uh to take part in the
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building the construction of the new
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airport they are holding this um
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information session on September the
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12th uh at the uh Courtyard by Marriott
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um by the airport in Burbank from 10:00
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a. until noon they will be um hosting
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this regarding construction
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opportunities for this replacement
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terminal they are seriously looking for
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local business women's businesses
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minorities and local businesses
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contractors and
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dbe um we are going to be posting the uh
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invitation the information on uh our
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website they're going to provide
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critical information for project
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participation they will have schedule
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and trade package information in-person
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connection with jvt members and
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in-person connection with possible trade
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Partners they are also and this is
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interesting they're also going to be
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working with our high schools uh for
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apprenticeships and Workforce
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opportunities uh if you're interested in
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this uh session if you are a contractor
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a businesswoman uh a minority who was
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interested in working on this airport
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project again it will be on September
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the 12th at Courtyard by Marriott at
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2100 Empire Drive in Burbank from 10:00
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a.m. until noon it's a terrific
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opportunity so I hope uh uh many of you
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will will um uh try to get information
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on this and be there uh there is a
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website the website is H PT standing for
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holder panow Tech JV
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team.com so if you're interested
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otherwise you can check our our website
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um I would also like to take this
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opportunity as you know Council has been
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uh working on Outreach for quite a while
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regarding districting and a couple of us
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advis uh us to wait until the Santa
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Monica case against districting was
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resolved well Santa Monica was
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successful in their case so my question
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now is should we keep moving and rushing
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forward or should we pause the decision
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by the courts bodess well for Glendale
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not being forced into districting and an
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elected mayor again I ask should we
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pause on this action this is a
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rhetorical question and I'm only telling
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this so that our residents know the
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outcome of that case thank you thank you
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mayor thank you and when we're finish
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this Council comments I will ask the
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City attorney to say a word because um
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depending depending on what you read
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I've I've read that Santa Monica lost
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I've read that Santa Monica won and I've
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read things in between so I'm not sure
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we know yet um but um let me turn to my
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colleagues any comments council member
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of Satan um I actually have a couple of
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things um one is I noticed that we have
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a counseling your neighborhood uh coming
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up um I think one of the recommendations
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I had made to staff uh after the last
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one was for us to do um Outreach whether
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it's flyers in that neighborhood or
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using data that we have to reach our
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residents within that neighborhood um to
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get folks to actually come to these uh
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counseling your neighborhoods I think
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the one that we had in the Rancher was
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very successful uh the one that we had
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in um at the Pacific uh Park not so much
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and so um I think it would be important
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if we are doing these um for the
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community to be made aware and that it's
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not just an agenda item that's placed um
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on Sunday U mayor bman and I uh attended
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the grand reopening of the montro uh
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Bowl um they have done a fantastic job
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at uh uh keeping the 1940s theme and
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Lanes uh got to throw some bowling balls
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uh down that lane um and they've
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Incorporated an all vegan and all kosher
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kitchen uh I have to say they you know I
[24:31]
was skeptical as I always am um about
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something being called chicken but it's
[24:36]
not um it was possibly the best hot
[24:38]
chicken sandwich I've had um I know that
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they're going to be doing a community
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event um uh as their part of their
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opening and so I look forward to sharing
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that um or have staff share that when we
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get it um this last week I also had
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scheduled a meeting with our staff and
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La County's um Economic Development
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Department and procurement uh office um
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for us to take a look at um how we can
[25:08]
move forward with the locally owned
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minority and and women-owned uh test
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that we have as part of the work plan um
[25:16]
one of the things that we learned
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through that process is that the LA
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county is currently going through a
[25:22]
revamp of their own procurement process
[25:25]
and kind of building out um different
[25:28]
methods of communication and uh
[25:31]
databases and so forth one of the things
[25:33]
I did mention was the opportunity for us
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to obtain the information that they have
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um and for that data sharing to be uh
[25:43]
something that's automatic and it's not
[25:45]
something that we're requesting through
[25:46]
our different departments um I know that
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they're putting together a task force
[25:51]
for some reason glendel is not part of
[25:52]
that so one of my requests was also to
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uh invite glendell to the table and for
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us to have input um in that process that
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they have um and then lastly um last
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week we um you know recognized women's
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equality day and talked about
[26:13]
programming and this morning I saw that
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we are having a webinar tomorrow
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um uh and recognition of women's
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equality day uh you can join this
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webinar to learn uh how women owned
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minority uh owned business certification
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can help you gain government utility and
[26:34]
private sector contracts um uh you can
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register uh at bitly backpac webinar uh
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all this information is available at CH
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glendel and the webinar is going to take
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place tomorrow August 30th um 10 a.m. to
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12:00 p.m. so I encourage all of our
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small business owners um who own you
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know local minority or women owned um to
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join in I think that very well ties in
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with um the opportunities that council
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member Divine was talking
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about thank you thank you thank you
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council member
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kakan um I don't have anything but I I
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don't know I'm looking for the the an
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article that would affirm what my
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colleague council member dine derived
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from the court case and I'm having
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trouble finding including Santa Monica's
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own City website which says City
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statement on California Supreme Court
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opinion on CV case says the city is
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reviewing the Supreme Court's opinion
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and working to assess the path forward
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and there's a number of others as well
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that uh here's another
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headline um that
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[Music]
[27:50]
says well I'll tell you none of them say
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what I think a council member Divine so
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strongly feels it said so um I would
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also like to understand whether this
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somehow puts Glendale in the clear or is
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a uh sweeping decision that that is that
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some are trying to make the public
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believe it
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is um other than that I honestly don't
[28:16]
have any other comments okay thank you
[28:20]
okay thank
[28:24]
you one I just I just want to make sure
[28:27]
we clarify on I know we passed a consent
[28:30]
but just on the agenda itself it's at
[28:33]
maruni in Armenia um and it needed to be
[28:36]
maruni in art just want to make sure
[28:38]
that in the docs it's all corrected that
[28:41]
the resolution was corrected to reflect
[28:43]
out okay thank you okay thank you um
[28:47]
okay so a couple things last Wednesday
[28:52]
um council member kasaki and I attended
[28:55]
a uh press conference confence uh in
[28:58]
front of the uh
[29:00]
aeri uh
[29:02]
consulate um in Los Angeles it was put
[29:06]
on by the panarmenian Council of the
[29:08]
western United States and the intention
[29:11]
was to um speak on the human
[29:15]
humanitarian crisis that's unfolding in
[29:17]
artso with the
[29:19]
blockade uh now going on for over seven
[29:22]
months preventing food medicine and
[29:25]
other uh urgently needed supplies uh
[29:28]
from entering the country um there were
[29:32]
a number of uh prominent uh people who
[29:35]
spoke including uh our congressman Adam
[29:38]
Schiff uh Congressman Brad
[29:41]
Sherman uh LA City Council president
[29:43]
Paul korian was there along with uh at
[29:46]
least two of his colleagues from the LA
[29:48]
City Council uh and a number of other uh
[29:51]
individuals um uh members of the clergy
[29:55]
and um council member kasaki and I both
[29:58]
uh both spoke uh he spoke a lot more
[30:01]
eloquently than me as is usually the
[30:03]
case um but we we did both speak and
[30:07]
um and you know I uh and many others
[30:10]
talked about uh the fact that there are
[30:13]
120,000 innocent people now trapped uh
[30:17]
without access to uh the basic needs uh
[30:22]
of of human beings um and that includes
[30:25]
30,000 children 20,000 elderly and
[30:29]
almost 10,000 disabled people on the
[30:33]
verge of
[30:34]
starvation um and uh at this press
[30:38]
conference uh we uh all jointly and
[30:42]
individually called on the US government
[30:45]
to take uh immediate and aggressive
[30:48]
steps to address this issue including
[30:51]
and I'll just name some of the things
[30:53]
that were um that were discussed uh one
[30:58]
introduce a un Security Council
[31:00]
resolution which would require azerbajan
[31:02]
to adhere to a February 2023 order by
[31:06]
the international court of justice to
[31:09]
open the Locking carridor which is how
[31:12]
uh materials can enter the Republic of
[31:14]
artak um halt all US military assistance
[31:17]
to azerbijan it is quite uh shocking
[31:22]
that the United States still is
[31:24]
providing military assistance to aeran
[31:27]
uh impose sanctions on members of the
[31:30]
alv regime under the magnitsky act for
[31:34]
war crimes crimes against humanity
[31:37]
deliver humanitarian assistance to artso
[31:39]
through the carer uh at the scale needed
[31:42]
to address the humanitarian catastrophe
[31:45]
and last but not least introduce a un
[31:48]
Security Council resolution establishing
[31:51]
a peacekeeping mission in artach to
[31:54]
protect the um the the safety of um the
[31:59]
population there over time um one thing
[32:03]
that was mentioned um which uh doesn't
[32:06]
necessarily uh do anything to resolve
[32:09]
the situation but um it does bring
[32:11]
attention to it the LA City Council uh
[32:15]
named the intersection in front of the
[32:17]
aeri consulate which is uh Wilshire and
[32:19]
Granville Avenue Republic of artso
[32:23]
square uh so signs will be going up
[32:25]
maybe they've already gone up
[32:28]
um at that location right in front of
[32:30]
the aeran consulate um and uh for what
[32:36]
it's worth I think that's uh that's
[32:38]
something that does uh does uh send a
[32:42]
strong symbolic message um so I just
[32:45]
wanted to share that um that we were
[32:47]
there and that we we support these
[32:51]
um
[32:53]
uh these actions that were calling on
[32:56]
the Biden admin Administration the US
[32:57]
state department to uh undertake okay so
[33:01]
that was one um changing subjects
[33:03]
entirely I attended um the first edible
[33:07]
food recovery stakeholder meeting um as
[33:12]
many of you may know um under Senate
[33:14]
Bill
[33:15]
1383 in addition to sorting organic
[33:18]
waste um there are requirements uh
[33:21]
involving recovery of edible food that
[33:24]
would otherwise get thrown away so um
[33:27]
uh this was a uh one of I think several
[33:30]
meetings uh that will be taking place
[33:33]
this one for um organizations that are
[33:37]
collecting edible food from the
[33:39]
generators of edible food um to
[33:42]
distribute either directly to people in
[33:44]
need or to other food banks um and they
[33:48]
got together they discussed the
[33:49]
challenges that that they have it it is
[33:51]
actually very
[33:53]
complex um and uh and the the the idea
[33:57]
was to identify resources share uh share
[34:00]
experiences and start the conversation
[34:03]
um future meetings uh will include some
[34:06]
of the large um producers of um edible
[34:11]
food that would otherwise go to waste
[34:13]
like supermarkets and and
[34:15]
restaurants uh
[34:16]
hotels uh conference facilities that
[34:19]
kind of thing um so they had there were
[34:22]
a number of people at this event um YWCA
[34:25]
Salvation Army Glend College Catholic
[34:28]
Charities uh The Armenian Relief Society
[34:31]
Porto uh Betty Porto was there uh the
[34:33]
City of Burbank was there the First
[34:35]
Baptist Church and a number of others uh
[34:37]
it was uh it was interesting and I look
[34:40]
forward to seeing us continue to um make
[34:44]
progress on this
[34:46]
front and um the Montrose Bowl my
[34:49]
colleague already mentioned uh we got to
[34:51]
throw uh a few um what do you call it
[34:54]
throw a few balls I guess you call it
[34:57]
uh what's that bowling balls yeah
[34:59]
bowling balls but um and uh I probably
[35:03]
got the gutter more often than I got
[35:05]
anything else but
[35:06]
um it was fun anyway and and I will say
[35:10]
I agree this this vegan food was really
[35:14]
pretty uh pretty incredible uh and they
[35:16]
also have a great collection of craft
[35:18]
beers some on top so if you if you like
[35:21]
that kind of thing are you rubbing your
[35:24]
hands like you want to get over there to
[35:26]
have some beer Orin disinfect okay as
[35:30]
soon as I said beer I saw you going like
[35:32]
that but anyway it's a they really did a
[35:34]
nice job so if you can get on over there
[35:36]
I think that was a soft opening and I
[35:38]
think they're probably open in the next
[35:40]
couple days so they going to send
[35:41]
something to everyone for the coming
[35:43]
they are and then they're going to have
[35:44]
an event I think at the end of the month
[35:46]
but I think they're actually going to be
[35:47]
open like you can go and I think if you
[35:49]
go and you order food the bowling is
[35:51]
free it's really focused on the food and
[35:53]
the bowling is kind of to bring you
[35:55]
there to eat the food I guess yes so
[35:58]
bowling is free um okay so just the last
[36:02]
thing I I um I know that we're now um
[36:06]
we've now established these um panels to
[36:09]
select members of our boards and
[36:11]
commissions and one thing we haven't
[36:13]
discussed and I was hoping we could try
[36:15]
to clarify is our process for um uh
[36:20]
notifying the public that there's an
[36:22]
opportunity on a border commission uh uh
[36:25]
soliciting applications and then doing
[36:28]
interviews and so I would I would
[36:31]
suggest that we look at some kind of a
[36:34]
system for example um once we notice uh
[36:39]
the public that this position is
[36:40]
available we have a 30-day period uh for
[36:43]
people to put in applications we wait
[36:46]
the 30 days we collect them we interview
[36:48]
the applicants um and we make our
[36:51]
selection and I would also ask us to
[36:54]
consider making the all all the
[36:56]
applications public they are public
[36:58]
record anyway but it would be good for
[37:01]
the public to understand who we've
[37:02]
selected and who we haven't selected um
[37:06]
The Only Exception I would say perhaps
[37:09]
is if we are extending or renominating
[37:12]
reappointing somebody I should say who
[37:14]
is already an incumbent on a border
[37:16]
commission for a second term I think if
[37:18]
we have somebody that we want to
[37:20]
renominate we probably don't need to go
[37:22]
through this 30-day period but anyway um
[37:26]
I don't want I'm being fairly
[37:27]
prescriptive about this but I know this
[37:29]
is something that we we can discuss and
[37:31]
and I'd like to put this on a future
[37:34]
agenda to to um just to clarify our
[37:37]
process council member kasaka I I I
[37:39]
don't know did you mention Alex Film
[37:41]
Society I did not okay okay and I I am
[37:46]
finished um do you want to mention that
[37:48]
yeah I I just want to mention uh thank
[37:50]
Alex Film Society and the glendel
[37:52]
Historical Society uh there was a
[37:54]
showing of the classic film noir mild
[37:57]
Mildred Pierce which for those of you
[38:00]
who may not know is was a novel set in
[38:03]
Glendale made into a um Hollywood movie
[38:07]
for which I believe it was Joan Crawford
[38:09]
who won an Academy Award uh I think her
[38:11]
only Academy Award I learned and then it
[38:13]
was recently remade um uh as a film
[38:16]
starring Kate Winslet but it's all about
[38:19]
a woman who rises from nothing to uh
[38:22]
become a very successful businesswoman
[38:25]
all right from here in Glendale in the
[38:27]
original black and white film um there
[38:30]
are scenes that were filmed here in
[38:31]
Glendale it was my first time seeing it
[38:33]
I thought it was great and more
[38:34]
importantly I thought that um lawn area
[38:37]
using the city's uh LED screen was a
[38:40]
great great um uh combination of
[38:44]
organizations working together um having
[38:47]
an outdoor movie night hopefully they'll
[38:48]
do more of those so mayor who does thank
[38:52]
you council member Divine and if I want
[38:54]
if I may I want to piggyback on what the
[38:56]
mayor was saying about the uh
[38:57]
commissions and there is an opening on
[39:00]
the historic preservation commission if
[39:03]
anyone out there is interested we didn't
[39:05]
we don't have any applications and so
[39:07]
I'd like to encourage anyone out there
[39:09]
that like is interested in uh historic
[39:12]
preservation to please please apply
[39:14]
thank you thank
[39:16]
you okay um staff comments would you Mr
[39:21]
Garcia would you care to if You' like me
[39:23]
to com elaborate too much uh because we
[39:27]
were analyzing the opinion but as you
[39:29]
noted the has been noted the California
[39:32]
Supreme Court did Issue its long awaited
[39:33]
a ruling in uh the case of Pico
[39:36]
neighborhood association versus city of
[39:37]
Santa Monica regarding the scope of the
[39:40]
California Voting Rights Act and whether
[39:42]
or not vote voter vote dilution which is
[39:45]
a a term of art meaning a process that
[39:48]
where an election system dilutes the
[39:49]
votes of pro protected class or minority
[39:52]
group and so one of the questions in
[39:55]
that case was whether or not that was a
[39:56]
required element uh in a voter uh
[39:59]
California Voting Rights Act case and
[40:01]
then if so what's the test well how do
[40:02]
you how do you prove vote vote dilution
[40:04]
so um the Supreme Court you know I I I
[40:09]
hesitate to say there was a Victor and a
[40:10]
loser because although it did reverse
[40:12]
the decision the court of appeal it did
[40:14]
remand it back to the court of appeal
[40:16]
for further analysis and uh essentially
[40:20]
what it said is you had to prove vote
[40:21]
dilution in in making such a claim and
[40:24]
that to show that uh vote Dil
[40:26]
established when under some lawful
[40:28]
alternative election system the minority
[40:30]
group would have the potential on its
[40:32]
own or with the help of crossover voters
[40:34]
to elect its preferred candidate and
[40:36]
that this can be shown through
[40:37]
evaluation of the facts and
[40:38]
circumstances of the jurisdiction
[40:40]
including the local agency circumstances
[40:42]
its election history and the design and
[40:44]
impact of the current system as well as
[40:47]
an alternative system so that's a that's
[40:49]
a lot there that's a mouthful um a lot
[40:51]
of lawyers are still looking at this and
[40:53]
seeing what it means we are going to
[40:54]
look at it our team is going to look at
[40:56]
at it and obviously because it involves
[40:58]
legal risk the assessment of legal risk
[41:01]
it will be a discussion for you know
[41:03]
close session uh but we will provide
[41:05]
that information to you you'll have it
[41:07]
before we get into the next round of
[41:08]
public hearings uh on our districting
[41:11]
process okay but would you say just just
[41:15]
I I always like to simplify things I
[41:17]
know you can't simplify things like this
[41:19]
but it was not a victory an outright
[41:22]
victory for either party for Santa
[41:24]
Monica or for
[41:26]
that's a fair assessment
[41:28]
correct okay and it's it's still then
[41:31]
the waters are still kind of murky as
[41:33]
far as yes what it takes to bring these
[41:37]
types of cases what it takes to defend
[41:39]
against these types of cases right what
[41:41]
it what it takes to prove that various
[41:42]
elements of a voting rights case
[41:43]
especially vote dilution and I'll note
[41:45]
you know uh the plaintiffs won in the
[41:48]
trial court Santa Monica won in the
[41:50]
court of appeal and you're right the
[41:52]
court of appeal although reversed the
[41:54]
the victory that Santa mon Santa Monica
[41:56]
got in the in the court of appeal
[41:57]
decision it it remanded it for further
[41:59]
analysis so there's no there's no
[42:01]
conclusion to that case they're still
[42:02]
either going to have to litigate that or
[42:04]
or decide to settle okay thank you uh
[42:08]
any other staff comments um mayor bman
[42:10]
if I may yes please um the city clerk's
[42:14]
uh social media web page does advertise
[42:17]
uh on the openings of boards and
[42:18]
commissions in fact we've created posts
[42:20]
in five different languages to um to be
[42:24]
accessible to the public so we have that
[42:27]
information also the boards and
[42:28]
commission's uh web page has a listing
[42:30]
of all the openings and how to apply um
[42:33]
for each
[42:35]
commission okay thank
[42:37]
you all right um if there no other
[42:41]
comments what is our next agenda item
[42:44]
our next item is commune event
[42:46]
announcements uh three minutes each we
[42:49]
have one um speaker
[42:52]
card okay uh is it Ida or or AA uh
[42:59]
anaran AA onaran
[43:02]
yes you have three minutes thank you so
[43:05]
much thank you Mr Mayor and members of
[43:08]
the
[43:09]
council I'm here to discuss um my name
[43:12]
is l andaran I'm from The Armenian bar
[43:15]
association's prono Clinic I'm an
[43:18]
attorney there and um on September 9th
[43:22]
we will be holding an expungement Clinic
[43:24]
I wanted to let everyone know and give
[43:26]
some information about how we can help
[43:28]
the Glendale Community and any members
[43:31]
of the nearby cities community members
[43:35]
um we will be uh basically anyone who
[43:39]
has a record that would like to have it
[43:41]
expunged have it would like to have it
[43:43]
cleared in order to start their life
[43:45]
over again um a lot of times records
[43:49]
that can prevent people from um seeking
[43:52]
employment or even apartment buildings
[43:54]
you know if they want to get rent an
[43:56]
apartment or rent a home or get a home
[43:59]
uh those can be prevented so what we're
[44:01]
doing is we're providing free
[44:02]
expungement clinics for members and it's
[44:05]
going to be on Saturday September
[44:08]
9th um it will be held at Maple Park
[44:11]
Community Center which is at 820 Maple
[44:14]
East Maple Drive and um we will have our
[44:18]
expungement Clinic attorneys there
[44:19]
helping people um apply for those
[44:22]
expungements and um reduction of
[44:24]
felonies and um probation
[44:28]
records okay thank you thank you for do
[44:31]
so much thank
[44:34]
you okay what is
[44:38]
next next are action items action item a
[44:42]
public works regarding San Fernando Road
[44:44]
beautification Project Alternatives one
[44:46]
motion accepting staff's recommendation
[44:48]
to proceed with the design and
[44:50]
implementation of alternative 2A for the
[44:52]
San Fernando r Road beautification
[44:55]
Project
[44:56]
thank you Mr gamia yes mayor bman member
[44:59]
city council um this this council's
[45:02]
direction U few months ago to improve
[45:05]
and beautify San Fernando Road Corridor
[45:08]
along the MTA railroad tracks and uh in
[45:12]
response to that direction staff applied
[45:14]
for and was successful in obtaining $5
[45:17]
million uh in in Grant monies from the
[45:20]
state of
[45:21]
California uh to to help uh in that
[45:24]
endeavor the project includes a number
[45:27]
of improvements including uh not only
[45:30]
enhanced Landscaping but also sidewalks
[45:33]
crosswalks as well as bicycle facilities
[45:37]
um staff and our consultant have uh
[45:39]
conducted a uh feasibility analysis and
[45:43]
took the recommendation to uh
[45:45]
transportation and parking commission
[45:47]
recently and that commission provided a
[45:50]
recommendation to city council as one of
[45:53]
the Alternatives that was in the staff
[45:55]
report with that I'll turn it to Mr
[45:57]
amrani our director of Public Works to
[45:59]
introduce our consultant Who present
[46:01]
this item for your
[46:03]
consideration good evening Mr Mayor
[46:05]
members of city council um as was
[46:08]
mentioned uh this is a uh long awaited
[46:12]
project for us to uh to help uh improve
[46:16]
the condition of San Fernando Road and
[46:19]
as such we've uh engaged the services of
[46:22]
Mark Thomas uh who's a consultant to uh
[46:27]
do this study for us and analyze all the
[46:29]
different
[46:30]
Alternatives uh and we have uh Mr Pat
[46:33]
Summerville of Mark Thomas who's going
[46:35]
to go through a short presentation thank
[46:38]
you yes good evening mayor council
[46:40]
members Pat sumerville project manager
[46:42]
for the Mark Thomas
[46:46]
team a little bit about the about the
[46:48]
project introduction uh first and
[46:50]
foremost this project is intended to
[46:53]
beautify and improve the public areas
[46:56]
along San Fernando Road through the
[46:58]
implementation of new raised landscape
[47:00]
meeting Islands Parkway and Parkway
[47:03]
planting to help mitigate the urban heat
[47:05]
island
[47:06]
effect it will also include multimodal
[47:09]
improvements for all users including new
[47:12]
and improved bus stops with shelters
[47:14]
where they don't exist today and high
[47:16]
visibility crosswalks to improve
[47:23]
safety the project is funded through
[47:25]
three different sources measure W from
[47:27]
the county state gas tax funds and the
[47:30]
grant that was mentioned previously from
[47:32]
calr the clean Calfornia Grant of nearly
[47:35]
$5
[47:36]
million the important item to to
[47:39]
understand regarding that Grant is it
[47:41]
has a deadline to have the project
[47:43]
constructed by June end of June 2024 so
[47:47]
that deadline plays into uh the
[47:49]
decisions being made in terms of being
[47:51]
able to have this project built and the
[47:53]
grant funds expended by that date
[47:58]
so a little bit about the existing
[47:59]
conditions along San Fernando Road this
[48:02]
is a major Arterial Highway four lanes
[48:04]
in each Direction along a commercial
[48:07]
Corridor with businesses and on street
[48:09]
parking on the east side and the metr
[48:12]
Link rail Corridor on the west side so
[48:15]
this constrains our Corridor we're
[48:17]
looking at a 62t width curb to curb to
[48:20]
fit the elements out there today and any
[48:23]
additional elements we want to add is
[48:26]
competing for that real estate within
[48:28]
the street so this is the constrained
[48:31]
canvas that we have to work with as we
[48:32]
develop the
[48:35]
project we're also looking at the
[48:38]
facilities that exist out there today
[48:40]
that were either planned or implemented
[48:42]
um starting with the 2012 bicycle master
[48:45]
plan uh this did include a class one
[48:48]
facility along San Fernando Road located
[48:52]
inside the railroad ride of way
[48:55]
unfortunately this Metro owned Corridor
[48:57]
with Metro Link and the future
[48:58]
High-Speed Rail that is no longer an
[49:00]
option to locate this inside the
[49:02]
railroad R of way there was also as part
[49:05]
of that plan a number of east west
[49:07]
connections to San Fernando Road from
[49:11]
Glendale since then there has been
[49:13]
improvements implemented through the
[49:15]
corridor uh primarily the Glend Del
[49:18]
Naros River Walk uh north of the
[49:20]
134 along Fairmont where the uh Phase 1
[49:24]
and phase two pathway in Confluence Park
[49:27]
has been
[49:28]
completed phase three is the bridge that
[49:30]
would extend from Flower Street over to
[49:33]
the LA side at zoo drive and that is
[49:36]
currently in the design phase that
[49:38]
project has been funded through another
[49:40]
Grant uh believe the prop 68 grant for
[49:43]
that so that item is moving
[49:46]
forward additionally LA Metro has
[49:50]
funding and is currently planning and
[49:53]
designing additional active transport
[49:55]
ation improvements in this vicinity that
[49:58]
include a new bridge that would span
[50:00]
over San Fernando Road and the metr link
[50:02]
Corridor at Dorn Street once that
[50:05]
Crossing is closed this would be the
[50:08]
measure to be able to get pedestrians
[50:09]
and cyclists over San Fernando Road and
[50:11]
the rail corridor from Dorne Street that
[50:14]
path would extend down to the end of the
[50:17]
uh Dorne Street at the culdesac then
[50:20]
continue North with a new bridge that
[50:22]
would span over the verdigo wash and
[50:25]
connect to your Glendale Narrows
[50:27]
Riverwalk project so that would provide
[50:30]
continuity to the north and south of the
[50:33]
134 in the Vero wash and it also opens
[50:36]
up the opportunity for future expansion
[50:39]
of the bike path along the east Bank of
[50:41]
the LA River it's a quter that would run
[50:43]
parallel to San Fernando
[50:48]
Road as we started the project with the
[50:51]
understanding of the importance of
[50:52]
community engagement uh the team
[50:56]
uh implemented a a robust outreach
[50:58]
program that included eblasts door
[51:01]
hangers postcards social media um all
[51:05]
notifications were in three languages
[51:08]
for the
[51:10]
community we also initiated the initial
[51:13]
survey and the this survey is a fact-f
[51:15]
finding survey finding out what the
[51:17]
community's challenges are through the
[51:19]
corridor but also what their desired
[51:21]
improvements are through the
[51:24]
corridor the top four challenges are all
[51:27]
traffic operations related not
[51:30]
surprisingly the top desired
[51:31]
improvements were also roadway and
[51:33]
traffic related followed by Corridor
[51:36]
beautification and pedestrian
[51:39]
improvements so from this feedback the
[51:42]
team developed three Alternatives that
[51:44]
were brought
[51:47]
forward in all of the Alternatives have
[51:50]
common features involved through each of
[51:53]
them uh this includes Parkway planting
[51:56]
both along the rail Corridor to help
[51:58]
beautify that side of the street as well
[52:00]
as the East Side along the
[52:03]
businesses pavment resurfacing
[52:05]
throughout from Elk Avenue up to Grand
[52:08]
View upgraded bus stops making them ADA
[52:12]
Compliant and installing bus shelters
[52:14]
where they don't exist
[52:16]
today creative crosswalks to improve
[52:19]
visibility and
[52:21]
safety curb extensions at almost every
[52:24]
intersection to help shorten the path of
[52:26]
travel for the pedestrians crossing the
[52:29]
street and the the raised landscaped
[52:33]
medians that will be
[52:35]
included regarding the
[52:38]
medians there are 11 medians planned
[52:41]
throughout the corridor it is not a
[52:43]
continuous median from in to in along
[52:46]
the corridor in part because we're
[52:48]
maintaining left turn at the cross
[52:51]
streets where it exists today as well as
[52:54]
the higher volume volume driveways for
[52:56]
the businesses along the
[53:01]
corridor so alternative one is
[53:05]
effectively the existing condition with
[53:07]
the addition of the planting and the
[53:09]
raised meiting Islands this would
[53:11]
function as a class three bike way
[53:13]
through the corridor with no change in
[53:15]
the roadway Lane configuration it
[53:17]
maintains all the on and it maintains
[53:19]
all of the on street
[53:23]
parking Alterna ative 2
[53:26]
implements striped class two bike
[53:29]
Lanes along San Fernando Road and in
[53:32]
order to fit the two bike Lanes one in
[53:35]
each Direction This alternative would
[53:38]
remove the on street parking which is a
[53:40]
loss of approximately 141 parking spaces
[53:43]
from Elk up to Grand View because of the
[53:46]
constraints of the roadway um there is
[53:49]
no buffer or protection for this bike
[53:51]
lane it would be just purely a class two
[53:53]
striped bike lane
[53:58]
alternative three is what's referred to
[54:00]
as a class 4 protected bike boy this is
[54:03]
one lane in each Direction with a buffer
[54:05]
and a vertical element separating the
[54:07]
bikes from the vehicles in order to
[54:10]
accomodate this in the width that that
[54:13]
class 4 needs this would remove one lane
[54:16]
of traffic in each Direction on San
[54:18]
Fernando Road it also reduces parking by
[54:22]
about 30% uh because of the road
[54:25]
configuration and the ability to restrip
[54:28]
for
[54:29]
parking there is a VMT reduction along
[54:31]
the corridor however because of the
[54:33]
reduction in the lanes it does nearly
[54:37]
double the travel time in the afternoon
[54:39]
peak hours both Northbound and
[54:42]
southbound and it also uh as we heard
[54:45]
from the Glendale Fire Department uh
[54:48]
because it Narrows the roadway it makes
[54:50]
it more difficult and challenging for
[54:52]
the fire apparatus to be able to
[54:55]
navigate around raise median and parked
[54:58]
or cars or the vertical elements within
[55:00]
the bike lane uh as they are going to a
[55:06]
call we also looked at the traffic
[55:09]
safety through the
[55:11]
corridor we collected all the Collision
[55:13]
data from 2012 to 2022 through the
[55:16]
corridor again from Elk Avenue up to
[55:19]
Grand View Avenue there were 18
[55:22]
incidents on file eight of which were
[55:25]
involved pedestrians 10 of which
[55:27]
involved bicycles so we're aware of
[55:30]
those incidents their locations uh
[55:33]
there's two locations in particular that
[55:35]
had a cluster of accidents one of
[55:37]
California the other
[55:39]
Colorado also with the implementation of
[55:42]
the project and the features through the
[55:44]
calr local roadway safety manual um they
[55:49]
document that installing raised medians
[55:51]
can reduce collisions by up to
[55:54]
25% providing bike Lanes can also reduce
[55:57]
bicycle related accidents by up to
[56:03]
35% we also evaluated the parking along
[56:06]
the
[56:07]
corridor uh there's currently 78 on
[56:10]
street parking stalls north of the
[56:13]
134 and 63 South of the
[56:17]
134 we did we twice went out to look at
[56:20]
the utilization during the day from 6:00
[56:23]
AM to 7 pm
[56:25]
uh the corridor is very highly utilized
[56:28]
throughout additionally we looked at
[56:30]
each of the cross streets at about 250
[56:33]
feet back from San Fernando Road to see
[56:35]
what the utilization is like on the side
[56:37]
streets to see in particular is if we
[56:40]
removed parking on San Fernando Road is
[56:42]
there sufficient parking on street on
[56:45]
the side streets to accommodate that uh
[56:48]
those side streets are also very highly
[56:51]
utilized so there is not sufficient on
[56:54]
street parking replacement parking if it
[56:56]
was removed on San Fernando
[57:00]
Road so we took the three options along
[57:04]
with the information gathered on the
[57:05]
traffic and the parking uh we held a
[57:08]
community uh Outreach meeting in March
[57:10]
at the glendell Fire Protection Bureau
[57:12]
we had 40 community members come through
[57:15]
able to walk them through each of the
[57:17]
boards the exhibits um and what is
[57:19]
planned in each of the three
[57:20]
Alternatives hear feedback provide input
[57:24]
as to concerns that they might have
[57:28]
had we also did an online
[57:31]
survey uh this was referred to a survey
[57:34]
number two where we were getting input
[57:36]
on the Alternatives and Concepts that
[57:38]
were presented at the Outreach
[57:41]
meeting we want to indicate that the the
[57:44]
participant profile 38% identified as an
[57:47]
active cyclist um there were 11% that
[57:51]
either worked along San Fernando or
[57:52]
owned a business along San Fernando Road
[57:55]
the result of this online survey uh
[57:58]
alternative three the class 4 cycle
[58:01]
track or or class 4 bike Lanes uh ranked
[58:04]
the highest at 42% followed by
[58:06]
alternative two and then alternative
[58:10]
one subsequent to that we did a
[58:13]
door-to-door canvasing of the corridor
[58:16]
both businesses and adjacent
[58:19]
residents the common theme through the
[58:22]
discussion with the businesses was the
[58:25]
parking they are heavily reliant on it
[58:28]
and in their eyes that was a non-starter
[58:30]
to remove it uh that resulted in the
[58:33]
clear 93% approval of alternative
[58:38]
one with the residents the key concern
[58:41]
for them was any cut through traffic
[58:43]
which should have been tied to
[58:43]
Alternative three and so again we're
[58:47]
seeing a a very heavy approval rating
[58:49]
for alternative one by the residents
[58:51]
followed by alternative
[58:53]
two so with this information and the
[58:56]
discussions with the community feedback
[58:59]
from both the online survey and the
[59:00]
community meetings the team went back
[59:03]
and looked at variations what else might
[59:05]
we be able to
[59:07]
do and this is where alternative
[59:10]
2A came about and what this does IT
[59:14]
addresses the business's concerns about
[59:17]
parking because we're maintaining it
[59:19]
along San Fernando
[59:20]
Road it may IT addresses the residential
[59:24]
community concerns because we've
[59:26]
maintained the four lanes of traffic on
[59:28]
the
[59:29]
road but what we what we have been able
[59:31]
to provide on this one is a single Class
[59:33]
2 southbound bike
[59:35]
lane along the west side of San Fernando
[59:39]
Road and we've accomplish that by
[59:41]
skinning up all of the lanes in the
[59:44]
median Island through here to 10-ft
[59:46]
Lanes 9ft median 7 foot parking
[59:50]
Lane that allows us to provide just
[59:52]
enough space to put that class to bike
[59:55]
lane
[59:56]
in now you also notice that there is no
[59:58]
protection or buffer for this bike lane
[1:00:01]
and question is what's the challenges
[1:00:03]
why can't we well the challenges the the
[1:00:08]
characteristics of the
[1:00:09]
corridor the need when
[1:00:13]
we to be able to provide a buffer we
[1:00:15]
have to narrow something else that
[1:00:17]
something else would be the the
[1:00:19]
median we have raised median but we also
[1:00:22]
have striped medians that Prov provides
[1:00:24]
two-way left turn access to driveways
[1:00:27]
along San Fernando
[1:00:28]
Road so to accomplish a buffer adjacent
[1:00:32]
to the bike lane we would need to narrow
[1:00:34]
the median which means we shift traffic
[1:00:36]
over 3 ft to shift traffic we need
[1:00:40]
distance to transition and taper them
[1:00:42]
over we also need transitions in and out
[1:00:45]
of of the uh left turn pockets all told
[1:00:50]
it takes about 300 feet of length to
[1:00:53]
make the transitions work on each end
[1:00:56]
plus the left turn
[1:00:59]
pocket you add all this up and
[1:01:02]
unfortunately through the corridor the
[1:01:05]
blocks are so
[1:01:07]
short that out of roughly 17 blocks
[1:01:11]
there's only four that would actually
[1:01:14]
have enough length to them that this we
[1:01:17]
could achieve any form of
[1:01:19]
buffer and within those four three of
[1:01:22]
them would also then prohibit left turn
[1:01:25]
access in and out of additional
[1:01:27]
driveways that was not intended
[1:01:28]
originally which leaves one remaining
[1:01:32]
opportunity to to do that and let me
[1:01:34]
give you a little bit of a look of how
[1:01:36]
that looks and what I'm referring to
[1:01:39]
here this is a block between Grange and
[1:01:41]
Highland
[1:01:43]
Avenue um this shows a the class 2 bike
[1:01:46]
lane along the railroad Corridor at the
[1:01:50]
intersections we need a 9ft median width
[1:01:52]
for the left turn Pockets it cannot be
[1:01:54]
any anything less than
[1:01:56]
that if you're heading southbound and
[1:01:58]
you cross Highland Avenue you would you
[1:02:01]
would start to transition over that's
[1:02:03]
the 100 foot transition that's the
[1:02:04]
minimum required by the
[1:02:07]
city at that point the median island is
[1:02:11]
now down to 6 feet which then would
[1:02:14]
prohibit the ability for left turn
[1:02:16]
movements because the car cannot move
[1:02:18]
into a two-way left turn lane in in the
[1:02:20]
raised median so that would effectively
[1:02:23]
eliminate left turn move ments in and
[1:02:24]
out of two driveways on this one
[1:02:27]
block and then you have to taper back
[1:02:30]
out ahead of the 60ft taper that goes
[1:02:33]
into the left turn pocket and then the
[1:02:35]
length of the left turn pocket which
[1:02:36]
varies throughout the corridor depending
[1:02:38]
on traffic volumes so there's very
[1:02:41]
limited ability to provide a buffer
[1:02:44]
along this
[1:02:47]
Corridor and lastly alternative
[1:02:51]
3A uh was a a look at a class 4
[1:02:55]
protected two-way cycle track and what
[1:02:57]
we did different on this one is we
[1:02:59]
combined the uh two directions of for
[1:03:03]
the class 4 bike lane along the west
[1:03:05]
side adjacent to the rail
[1:03:09]
Corridor we restored the parking on the
[1:03:12]
on for on Street on the east side of San
[1:03:14]
Fernando Road as well as two Northbound
[1:03:16]
Lanes so this addresses the parking
[1:03:19]
concern this addresses the traffic
[1:03:21]
concern for Northbound however the
[1:03:24]
southbound direction of travel still is
[1:03:26]
only one lane and it is a narrowed
[1:03:28]
section uh so we still would have a
[1:03:31]
southbound uh impact of traffic during
[1:03:34]
the PM peak hours as well as the
[1:03:37]
concerns from the glendell fire
[1:03:38]
department because of the narrowed
[1:03:41]
Street width this option also would
[1:03:43]
require traffic signal modifications
[1:03:46]
because of the two-way cycle track at
[1:03:48]
each of the crossings of the
[1:03:51]
railroad what this means is we now have
[1:03:53]
to engage the California Public
[1:03:55]
Utilities Commission LA Metro and
[1:03:57]
Metrolink for the modifications in the
[1:03:59]
process of this which
[1:04:01]
is um would not fit within the timeline
[1:04:05]
for this project to deliver and build it
[1:04:07]
by the end of June
[1:04:14]
2024 So based on the feedback uh staff
[1:04:17]
went to the TBC last week um
[1:04:20]
recommending alternative one
[1:04:22]
particularly because it did meet the
[1:04:23]
grant project
[1:04:25]
goals it also addressed the business and
[1:04:28]
residents concerns regarding parking and
[1:04:29]
traffic the configuration was consistent
[1:04:32]
with the the challenges and the
[1:04:34]
constraints of the corridor and the
[1:04:35]
characteristics of of the street but
[1:04:38]
also understanding the potential for
[1:04:41]
additional connectivity in the future
[1:04:43]
for for bicycles not only with the
[1:04:46]
metroactive transportation improvements
[1:04:48]
that are being uh designed right now by
[1:04:51]
LA Metro that connect to the Riverwalk
[1:04:53]
but but also through the city's own
[1:04:55]
updating of your bike transportation
[1:04:58]
plan that could explore the extension of
[1:05:02]
that bike path along the east Bank of
[1:05:03]
the LA River to provide a high higher
[1:05:06]
quality bicycle facility for all users
[1:05:09]
that parallel San Fernando Road so it's
[1:05:11]
an option that would be out
[1:05:14]
there so at the meeting alternative two
[1:05:16]
was recommended for the following
[1:05:19]
reasons in part because it also
[1:05:21]
addressed the business and residents
[1:05:24]
concerns but it also provided a bicycle
[1:05:27]
Improvement along the corridor by
[1:05:28]
providing that southbound Class 2 bike
[1:05:31]
lane um it is an alternative that could
[1:05:33]
be realized without impacting the
[1:05:34]
project budget and schedule and hence
[1:05:37]
the staff is recommending alternative 2A
[1:05:40]
for your consideration tonight and with
[1:05:42]
that that concludes my
[1:05:45]
presentation thank you very much um do
[1:05:49]
we have any quick questions or should um
[1:05:52]
because I could call up the speaker
[1:05:54]
unless you have just sure I I just have
[1:05:56]
a few question uh on when when in notes
[1:06:00]
on in the presentation you mentioned
[1:06:01]
that um with uh bike Lanes uh accidents
[1:06:07]
are reduced by 35% is there a specific
[1:06:10]
type of bike lane that uh constitutes
[1:06:13]
that percentage of a reduction that
[1:06:16]
would be for a striped Class 2 bike lane
[1:06:18]
of class two because the first ones
[1:06:21]
which are just sharrows along the road I
[1:06:24]
don't think would result if anything
[1:06:26]
they give I think bicyclists a false
[1:06:29]
sense of security um and how many left
[1:06:33]
left turns would be affected by uh the
[1:06:35]
implementation of 2A into uh businesses
[1:06:39]
do you did you mention that for in to
[1:06:43]
put a buffer be able to put a buffer
[1:06:45]
adjacent yeah
[1:06:47]
so I believe it's a total of six
[1:06:50]
driveways or five driveways add in three
[1:06:53]
different segments
[1:06:54]
ments five driveways in each
[1:06:57]
segment five driveways total five okay
[1:07:00]
all right thank
[1:07:03]
you
[1:07:05]
yes um on page
[1:07:09]
13 you note that uh uh alternative to um
[1:07:15]
would result in loss of 141
[1:07:19]
spaces uh parking spaces or
[1:07:21]
approximately do you have that number um
[1:07:24]
for south of the freeway yes there's 63
[1:07:28]
total parking stalls south of the 134
[1:07:30]
freeway and that's been uh that count
[1:07:33]
was conducted by Mark Thomas staff as
[1:07:36]
well as um our consultant that did the
[1:07:38]
parking
[1:07:39]
analysis so it's been confirmed okay
[1:07:43]
thank you so much have a question Divine
[1:07:45]
yes um my question is about off street
[1:07:48]
parking and uh we I suppose we all got
[1:07:51]
an email today and I don't know if the
[1:07:53]
the lady is here that was uh that sent
[1:07:55]
us the information but she mentioned
[1:07:58]
that there are hundreds of parking
[1:07:59]
spaces including a garage and lots off
[1:08:03]
Street in that area that could be used
[1:08:06]
and it wouldn't matter if we uh you know
[1:08:08]
got rid of the
[1:08:10]
144 on street parking or the 41 I think
[1:08:13]
it's 41 this in the
[1:08:16]
2A can you comment on that you said you
[1:08:19]
you looked at off street parking and we
[1:08:23]
we looked at the on street parking
[1:08:24]
demands the public
[1:08:26]
parking the offsite off street parking
[1:08:29]
was not considered as part of our
[1:08:32]
analysis uh particularly because it is
[1:08:34]
privately owned and it's it requires a
[1:08:37]
little more investigation as to its
[1:08:38]
needs um there's also businesses that
[1:08:41]
may still not from the time they were
[1:08:43]
built have off-site parking but it's
[1:08:46]
also takes additional analysis to
[1:08:49]
understand the on-site parking or
[1:08:51]
off-site parking needs of each of the
[1:08:53]
businesses is um and uses along the
[1:08:56]
corridor to determine if it is meeting
[1:09:00]
current zoning requirements or
[1:09:01]
grandfathered zoning
[1:09:03]
requirements um it's difficult to say
[1:09:07]
whether or not would still be adequate
[1:09:09]
to absorb the parking if it was removed
[1:09:11]
from San Fernando Road and council
[1:09:13]
member dine um I didn't see a copy of
[1:09:17]
the email but we do not own we don't
[1:09:19]
have a parking structure along San
[1:09:21]
Fernando public parking structure right
[1:09:23]
I don't think she mentioned it that they
[1:09:25]
were public she said um garages and then
[1:09:28]
she had buildings and lots and oh yeah
[1:09:30]
privately owned yeah yeah
[1:09:33]
yeah um yeah and we'll get a
[1:09:36]
presentation that's um yeah one of our
[1:09:39]
one of our speaker cards she'll be
[1:09:40]
giving a
[1:09:41]
presentation um yeah I just have two
[1:09:44]
questions um on let's see when you were
[1:09:47]
on page 10 let me just go back to
[1:09:50]
it uh was it page I'm sorry page 14
[1:09:55]
you uh mentioned um that this
[1:09:59]
alternative three would double the
[1:10:00]
travel time can you put that in in
[1:10:02]
seconds minutes and what from where to
[1:10:05]
where so the travel time is from Elk
[1:10:09]
Avenue on the south end to Grand View
[1:10:11]
Avenue on the North
[1:10:13]
End in today's conditions that's
[1:10:15]
estimated in either direction to be a
[1:10:19]
10-minute travel time both Northbound
[1:10:21]
and southbound during Peak hour PM peak
[1:10:24]
hour cuz that's that's the governing one
[1:10:26]
that's the higher has the higher volume
[1:10:28]
to
[1:10:28]
it with alternative three with the class
[1:10:32]
4 protected bike Lanes reducing the lane
[1:10:35]
of travel in each
[1:10:38]
Direction the number increases to 18
[1:10:41]
minutes and I believe the southbound
[1:10:43]
Direction 20 minutes in the Northbound
[1:10:45]
Direction so near it nearly doubled both
[1:10:49]
directions in the PM peak hour by
[1:10:51]
reducing and eliminating the one lane
[1:10:55]
okay um and then my other question is uh
[1:11:00]
see page 20 I think I know the answer to
[1:11:03]
this but I just want to make sure so uh
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on page
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20 I don't know if you want to pull it
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up for now but anyway the here I'll I'll
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back up for you yeah just that the the
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the rightmost travel Lane there 11 ft I
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assume that's because of the parked cars
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but is that is that a requirement when
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we have a travel Lane against Park cars
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our minimum is 11 ft the the typical
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minimum Lane is 11
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and the typical parking Lane is also
[1:11:35]
eight um so we've reduced the parking
[1:11:38]
Lane to
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seven um because of the having the
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travel Lane adjacent to the parking Lane
[1:11:46]
um having 18 ft total was preferable
[1:11:49]
whether it was a 10-ft lane and an 8ft
[1:11:51]
parking lane or vice versa but but
[1:11:53]
having the 18 ft was preferable to have
[1:11:55]
a little bit of separation between the
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two so so if you cut a foot off of that
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you that would be a a safety issue I
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would say it would be yes my
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opinion because I'm just thinking if you
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how much how how much uh uh space would
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you need for to buffer that bike lane
[1:12:18]
would it be a foot or would it be less
[1:12:19]
than a foot the typical buffer for a
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bike lane is 3 Fe oh 3 ft just for the
[1:12:25]
buffer that's the typical buffer for a
[1:12:28]
bike lane it it could be made less could
[1:12:30]
be yeah but the the preferred is 3
[1:12:35]
feet okay and the 10ft travel Lane is
[1:12:38]
our is our
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minimum
[1:12:42]
yes did any jurisdictions go narrower
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than that on through
[1:12:47]
Lanes not that I have seen I know the
[1:12:50]
city of La has been tightening things up
[1:12:53]
but they've been using 10ft throughs and
[1:12:55]
9ft left
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turns okay all right
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thanks oh yeah council member the
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sidewalk uh with what's left is that
[1:13:08]
like sufficient for people with
[1:13:11]
disabilities absolutely the the quarter
[1:13:14]
will be ADA
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Compliant and not like in some places on
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like Central and brand right where it
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almost feels like you have to around
[1:13:24]
things um council members saan
[1:13:27]
everywhere in the City by law we are
[1:13:29]
required to comply with ADA requirements
[1:13:31]
so sometimes what you see on Brand
[1:13:34]
Boulevard and we're dealing with uh code
[1:13:37]
enforcement is after dining spaces that
[1:13:40]
have taken over but even with that if
[1:13:43]
they have they have a permit from the
[1:13:45]
city it meets the minimum requirement
[1:13:48]
for
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accessibility okay and and if I could
[1:13:53]
add the the parkway on that side it's
[1:13:55]
10t wide the intent of this is to remove
[1:13:58]
the front four feet for
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planting maintain the back five or six
[1:14:04]
feet depending on segment but making it
[1:14:06]
a continuous without Meandering that
[1:14:08]
back and
[1:14:10]
forth okay thank you so much okay uh
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we'll call up our speakers um do we have
[1:14:17]
anyone on the phone no we do not well we
[1:14:20]
just got one caller okay Okay so we've
[1:14:24]
got 1 two three four five six here yeah
[1:14:28]
give it um we can give five minutes and
[1:14:31]
then we'll we'll stop taking phone calls
[1:14:33]
if we get any more okay so we'll start
[1:14:35]
with uh lynen Alexander
[1:14:40]
deor and you have three minutes okay for
[1:14:43]
your
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com uh do I start now yes all right uh
[1:14:51]
hello I am here to voice my support for
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Alternatives 2 3 and SL
[1:14:58]
3A um I have a stti in the matter as I
[1:15:02]
have cycled through San Fernando Road
[1:15:05]
many times from Glenn Oaks Boulevard to
[1:15:08]
Chevy Chase um where I make a ride and
[1:15:12]
head to the LA River bike path at at
[1:15:14]
Water bellage um for a time this was the
[1:15:19]
first part of my commute to get to
[1:15:20]
downtown Los Angeles uh as I became more
[1:15:24]
familiar with the roads in
[1:15:25]
Glendale uh I stopped using San Fernando
[1:15:29]
as often mostly because due to the lack
[1:15:33]
of bike lanes and angry speeding
[1:15:35]
cars um the fact is that San Fernando
[1:15:39]
Road is a dangerous road for all users
[1:15:43]
on top of a few a handful of pedestrian
[1:15:47]
injuries there have been a handful of
[1:15:50]
bicycle collisions within the last
[1:15:52]
decade um I would also like to mention
[1:15:56]
one notable incident in on the San
[1:15:59]
Fernando Road during the open Community
[1:16:02]
open house event on March 23rd of this
[1:16:06]
year two cars jumped on a curb and
[1:16:09]
landed on a few tables of a restaurant
[1:16:12]
at the intersection of San Fernando and
[1:16:14]
Chevy Chase uh now I understand that
[1:16:18]
it's a little bit South beyond the
[1:16:21]
current project but that doesn't change
[1:16:24]
the fact that it happened you know um
[1:16:27]
think about think about this in an
[1:16:30]
alternative timeline or Universe where
[1:16:33]
the city council chose alternative run
[1:16:36]
one and was implemented and that crash
[1:16:39]
or worse crash occurred within that
[1:16:42]
scope of the project it would not look
[1:16:45]
good for the city of Glendale to say the
[1:16:49]
least this is why we have projects to
[1:16:51]
extend sidewalks to add bike lanes and
[1:16:54]
sometimes bus lanes uh it's to prevent
[1:16:57]
incidents like this from
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occurring and you have the power to
[1:17:02]
prevent these such
[1:17:06]
incidents uh please support option 3 3A
[1:17:10]
or at the fair leas option two I yield
[1:17:13]
my time thank
[1:17:15]
you Mike bars
[1:17:22]
off
[1:17:23]
uh good evening council members my name
[1:17:25]
is Mike borisov uh again sorry I just
[1:17:27]
came from work at GD so forgive me for
[1:17:29]
the shorts um so I'm just here to say
[1:17:31]
alternative 2A is the best we can go
[1:17:33]
with right now um I was at the meeting
[1:17:35]
for the transportation parking
[1:17:36]
commission when this came up and really
[1:17:38]
what this project is all about is
[1:17:40]
compromise um when obviously I want
[1:17:43]
three um but that's not the reality that
[1:17:45]
we live in um I we had the fire chief or
[1:17:48]
sorry fire department staff come up and
[1:17:50]
say that if we only had one single Lane
[1:17:52]
that was 10 10 ft or even 12T that's not
[1:17:55]
good enough in case of an emergency
[1:17:56]
because cars can't like go to the right
[1:17:58]
or left side of the street which makes
[1:18:00]
sense and so to come up with a
[1:18:02]
compromise to allow a bike lane
[1:18:03]
southbound bike lane and still have uh
[1:18:05]
emergency vehicles go uh in event of
[1:18:08]
emergency uh we have two lanes that are
[1:18:10]
now 10 ft uh additionally now this
[1:18:13]
project will follow the timeline and
[1:18:15]
follow the costs with a clean uh air
[1:18:17]
Grand program I do want to mention that
[1:18:19]
I'm a bit bummed that there was no room
[1:18:22]
for a buffer for the bike lane so in my
[1:18:26]
understanding a protected bike lane is
[1:18:28]
about 3 to 5T but a buffer can be
[1:18:30]
whatever size you want although I don't
[1:18:33]
know if there's a legal minimum to
[1:18:36]
enforce like the safe of a buffer versus
[1:18:40]
a protected bike like Arrow not Lane
[1:18:43]
sorry a protected bike buffer like
[1:18:46]
there's buffer and there there's
[1:18:47]
protected bike lane those are two
[1:18:48]
different things um and you can see that
[1:18:50]
in the picture even so if you go back to
[1:18:52]
to Alternative 3A you can see there's a
[1:18:55]
green right there's red uh sorry there's
[1:18:58]
a stripes and then there's green poles
[1:19:00]
those are plastic ballards that's a
[1:19:02]
protected bike lane a buffer would just
[1:19:04]
be a thicker stripe I believe on the
[1:19:07]
lane and so I was confused why we
[1:19:09]
couldn't have like at least a foot um I
[1:19:11]
understand there's a minimum median
[1:19:12]
requirement especially for turning left
[1:19:14]
and the median will have dry Wells or
[1:19:17]
water collection facilities so that
[1:19:19]
might affect the actual buffer or how
[1:19:22]
wide meeting is and the buffer this that
[1:19:24]
you could add to the bike lane um but
[1:19:27]
all in all I support alternative 2A and
[1:19:29]
I hope we you know Al least got one bike
[1:19:32]
lane versus zero which is what we're
[1:19:34]
currently at right now thank you thank
[1:19:37]
you uh next speaker is Allen
[1:19:45]
Durham mayor brotman members of the
[1:19:48]
council I'm Alan Durham uh I agree with
[1:19:51]
Mike borisoff I'm here to support the
[1:19:54]
staff's
[1:19:55]
recommendation to uh go with alternative
[1:19:58]
2A it's not a perfect world
[1:20:00]
unfortunately compromise is needed uh 2A
[1:20:04]
manages to add at least one dedicated
[1:20:07]
bike lane on a street that has none in
[1:20:10]
addition to maintaining on street
[1:20:12]
parking and all four traffic
[1:20:15]
Lanes unfortunately adding two bank
[1:20:17]
Lanes would result in the loss of all
[1:20:21]
the on street parking or the loss of one
[1:20:23]
or two traffic Lanes this portion of San
[1:20:27]
Fernando Road is under I'm sorry it's
[1:20:29]
mostly older commercial buildings which
[1:20:32]
have no dedicated parking they rely on
[1:20:35]
the street
[1:20:36]
parking uh and any parking structures
[1:20:40]
that are in this portion of San Fernando
[1:20:43]
or private property they're not public
[1:20:45]
Lots where you can pay to
[1:20:47]
park um and I think having no street
[1:20:51]
parking would hurt these businesses
[1:20:54]
economically and also Force parking onto
[1:20:57]
residential streets rather than San
[1:20:59]
Fernando Road eliminating one or two
[1:21:02]
traffic Lanes to put two bike Lanes in
[1:21:06]
is extremely problematic it's a heavily
[1:21:09]
traveled
[1:21:11]
thoroughfare and it will at least double
[1:21:14]
the travel times during the rush hour
[1:21:16]
and it's already really congested during
[1:21:18]
those times traffic backs up there are a
[1:21:21]
bunch of railroad crossings the signals
[1:21:23]
last a very long
[1:21:25]
time and I think reducing it to three or
[1:21:30]
two lanes will
[1:21:32]
divert uh traffic from San Fernando onto
[1:21:35]
nearby residential streets will get that
[1:21:37]
effect of people cutting through
[1:21:39]
residential streets to avoid San
[1:21:41]
Fernando Road and even if the traffic
[1:21:44]
goes up to Glen Oaks Boulevard we're
[1:21:47]
going to be losing two lanes on Glen
[1:21:49]
Oaks in the future when the rapid
[1:21:51]
transit uh North Hollywood bus project
[1:21:55]
is implemented so Glen o is going to be
[1:21:58]
going from six Lanes down to four if San
[1:22:01]
Fernando goes from 4 to 3 or two it's
[1:22:05]
just
[1:22:06]
problematic uh for the neighborhoods
[1:22:08]
because I think traffic will go up into
[1:22:10]
the residential neighborhoods and the
[1:22:13]
Glendale Fire Department has stated that
[1:22:17]
this is going to be a threat to Public
[1:22:19]
Safety due to delays in response time so
[1:22:23]
I don't think you can really ignore that
[1:22:25]
so please don't delay approving
[1:22:28]
alternative
[1:22:29]
2A there's only 10 months to go to get
[1:22:33]
this project rolling completed in order
[1:22:35]
not to lose the grant money thank you
[1:22:39]
thank you uh next speaker is Kirsten
[1:22:44]
blad or blade I I hope you can correct
[1:22:48]
me
[1:22:50]
yes uh good evening council members
[1:22:53]
my name is Kirsten blot I'm a resident
[1:22:54]
of South
[1:22:55]
Glendale um I did have a
[1:23:00]
presentation um first I just want to say
[1:23:03]
I'm not sure why it matters that all of
[1:23:04]
the parking south of the 134 is private
[1:23:06]
when it's 100% private businesses uh
[1:23:09]
there's no Public Schools public parks
[1:23:11]
or
[1:23:15]
residences um if you go to the first
[1:23:17]
slide please thanks or the second
[1:23:21]
slide thanks
[1:23:23]
um so the staff report failed to look at
[1:23:24]
the bigger picture of glendale's bike
[1:23:26]
Network San Fernando intersects with
[1:23:28]
five bike Lanes one future bike lane and
[1:23:30]
the future Verdugo wash which is by far
[1:23:32]
the most of any roadway in Glendale next
[1:23:35]
slide that many connections to bike
[1:23:38]
Lanes guarantees that San Fernando will
[1:23:40]
be and is currently used by lots of
[1:23:41]
cyclists in the past 10 years there were
[1:23:43]
28 cyclist hit on the portion of San
[1:23:45]
Fernando within Glendale and two of
[1:23:47]
those crashes resulted in the highest
[1:23:49]
injury severity level other than death
[1:23:51]
next slide
[1:23:53]
over onethird of the crashes occurred
[1:23:55]
within the project study area next
[1:23:58]
slide my parking analysis shows that
[1:24:00]
unlike the northern portion there's very
[1:24:02]
little need for curb parking south of
[1:24:03]
the 134 which is also where bike Lan is
[1:24:05]
most needed next
[1:24:08]
slide so in this first portion there are
[1:24:11]
44 off street parking spaces um and
[1:24:13]
there's not a single curb parking
[1:24:16]
space next
[1:24:19]
slide uh this section is going to re be
[1:24:21]
redeveloped with a project that includes
[1:24:23]
a 385 space parking garage 121 surface
[1:24:26]
spaces and an off Street loading zone uh
[1:24:29]
there's no retail or any need for
[1:24:31]
customer parking uh and there's only 14
[1:24:33]
curb spaces anyways next
[1:24:35]
slide here we
[1:24:37]
have off street parking spaces and 12
[1:24:40]
curb spaces over two blocks uh and it's
[1:24:43]
mostly a junk lot if you couldn't tell
[1:24:45]
um so here you can see that these two
[1:24:49]
blocks for years now have just been used
[1:24:51]
as junk truck storage which they're not
[1:24:52]
customer parking next
[1:24:57]
slide um again here's another block
[1:25:00]
showing that this is just junk truck
[1:25:01]
storage not customer
[1:25:05]
parking so here we have 135 off street
[1:25:08]
parking spaces and 10 curb spaces 50% of
[1:25:11]
which are limited to 30 minutes uh so
[1:25:13]
the also I wanted to point out the
[1:25:14]
restaurant on the corner has 11 spaces
[1:25:16]
of their own and a 14 space parking lot
[1:25:18]
next door next
[1:25:20]
slide um so here in front of moonlight
[1:25:22]
rollerway we can see that this has been
[1:25:24]
used for junk truck storage since at
[1:25:26]
least 2015 next slide there's not a
[1:25:29]
single curb parking space available on
[1:25:31]
this final stretch of San Fernando but
[1:25:32]
there are 539 off- street parking spaces
[1:25:36]
which means this whole section is
[1:25:37]
essentially just a giant parking lot
[1:25:38]
next
[1:25:39]
slide so all in all only 2% of the
[1:25:42]
available parking within one block is on
[1:25:44]
the curb and that's not even counting
[1:25:46]
the curb parking available on side
[1:25:47]
streets next
[1:25:49]
slide my alternative proposal is north
[1:25:52]
of 134 alternative 2A and south of 134
[1:25:54]
alternative 2 is that my time um okay
[1:25:58]
you could you could wrap it up need
[1:26:01]
another 30 seconds it's fine thank you
[1:26:03]
um so with this proposal cyclist would
[1:26:06]
be protected where it matters most which
[1:26:07]
is near the freeway interchanges less
[1:26:09]
than 2% parking loss and all parking
[1:26:12]
north of the 134 which is where the
[1:26:13]
residences and Retail uses are I know
[1:26:16]
they need parking up there and I don't
[1:26:18]
want to take that away from them and it
[1:26:20]
also that portion accounts for over % of
[1:26:22]
the curb parking in the total project
[1:26:24]
area despite being only a third of the
[1:26:26]
length um and almost 100% of the retail
[1:26:28]
parking okay and this would also connect
[1:26:30]
to the verduga wash Highland Bike Lane
[1:26:32]
and nearly to the rivil bike lane and uh
[1:26:34]
I believe the bridge that the um that
[1:26:37]
was talked about earlier okay thank you
[1:26:39]
thank you mayor bman yes if I um I oh
[1:26:43]
you want to ask a question do you yeah
[1:26:45]
you went really really fast through your
[1:26:47]
slides cuz you have I am interested
[1:26:50]
actually seeing the the rest of the info
[1:26:52]
that we just went past is there do you
[1:26:55]
do you have do we only have a electronic
[1:26:58]
version of it
[1:27:01]
um we got it you should have it on your
[1:27:03]
phone she sent she attached it to an
[1:27:06]
email I haven't seen okay I'll pull it
[1:27:08]
up thanks thank you okay thank you okay
[1:27:13]
uh next is Cole
[1:27:21]
basemore
[1:27:24]
good evening Council staff um very
[1:27:27]
excited about this project uh as I said
[1:27:29]
to the commission last week I think this
[1:27:31]
is a great opportunity to revitalize
[1:27:33]
this Corridor um I don't have much more
[1:27:35]
to say beyond the previous speaker I
[1:27:37]
think Kristen did a wonderful job of
[1:27:39]
summarizing uh the arguments in favor of
[1:27:42]
2A as well as um option two south of the
[1:27:46]
134 I think reducing a few um spots of
[1:27:50]
parking that's on this Corridor south of
[1:27:52]
of the 134 is really um not much when
[1:27:56]
you consider the uh safety that comes
[1:27:59]
with having that dedicated bike lane so
[1:28:02]
please consider that when you're
[1:28:03]
thinking about this um reducing like
[1:28:06]
they the staff presented you know the
[1:28:08]
reduction in 35% of uh uh I believe it
[1:28:12]
was 35% less bike accidents that might
[1:28:15]
result of this would be uh I think a
[1:28:17]
huge gain so again please please I
[1:28:20]
support 2A uh
[1:28:22]
for the portion uh north of 134 and two
[1:28:26]
South thank
[1:28:28]
you okay thank you
[1:28:31]
and uh Kate
[1:28:40]
anger hi everybody you said five minutes
[1:28:43]
right I have time to say good evening
[1:28:46]
mayor brotman members of city council
[1:28:48]
staff three minutes awesome um I can
[1:28:51]
talk to fast hey I have such Envy of
[1:28:54]
your presentations can we get
[1:28:56]
presentations like that the community we
[1:28:58]
would love to see those um I wanted to
[1:29:01]
start off by saying I am a member of the
[1:29:05]
community that's right they are impacted
[1:29:07]
by uh traffic on San Fernando Road um in
[1:29:12]
fact my house was just a little bit off
[1:29:14]
one of those slides that we saw earlier
[1:29:16]
um mostly speaking to north of the 134
[1:29:19]
and at the 134 which is the bane of my
[1:29:23]
existence right about there who else
[1:29:26]
knows about this uh council member
[1:29:28]
kassakian also knows about this
[1:29:30]
experience of driving on San Fernando at
[1:29:33]
the
[1:29:34]
134 so I wanted to say staff did a
[1:29:38]
really good job of reaching out to the
[1:29:40]
public I really appreciated that they
[1:29:43]
not only made sure that people had uh
[1:29:46]
visibility into what was happening when
[1:29:48]
I reached out to them they were very
[1:29:50]
responsive I really appreciated that uh
[1:29:53]
the consultant also was really good at
[1:29:55]
the open house and even beforehand there
[1:29:57]
were problems with the survey at first I
[1:29:59]
reached out to them to point out that it
[1:30:01]
was requiring people to give an answer
[1:30:04]
one two and three like minimum of three
[1:30:06]
answers so um I'm not sure if those
[1:30:09]
answers were taken away from the survey
[1:30:11]
results that you saw at the beginning
[1:30:13]
you couldn't say I have no problem with
[1:30:15]
this road the way it is you couldn't say
[1:30:18]
I don't want any of these um Solutions
[1:30:22]
so I let them know that and they changed
[1:30:24]
it I really appreciated that um I did
[1:30:27]
want to highlight the results of the
[1:30:29]
doorto door canvasing obviously not many
[1:30:32]
residents came out tonight but you saw
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um in the staff report that um a large
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majority of people like things the way
[1:30:39]
they are they recognize that there could
[1:30:42]
be a lot of impacts from reducing
[1:30:44]
traffic Lanes in particular also the off
[1:30:46]
Street the parking I think more of an
[1:30:48]
issue north of the
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134 so
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so I'm strongly opposed to any
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alternatives that eliminate a traffic
[1:30:59]
lane it's just a nightmare there already
[1:31:02]
I really want to support 2A I want to
[1:31:05]
ask a question I know that staff doesn't
[1:31:08]
need to answer me I hope one of you will
[1:31:10]
ask this question what happens on
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southbound San Fernando at the
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134 where there are two tra excuse me
[1:31:20]
that go to the left
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two traffic Lanes go through I was just
[1:31:24]
there I can't see how you fit a bicycle
[1:31:26]
lane there are they going to use sherrow
[1:31:28]
right in that spot and if not how are
[1:31:30]
they going to fit that bicycle lane
[1:31:32]
without reducing two lanes of traffic
[1:31:34]
plus those two lanes that turn left it
[1:31:37]
gets backed up really badly everybody
[1:31:39]
wants to turn left it's almost
[1:31:41]
impossible to go straight through there
[1:31:42]
you get backed
[1:31:44]
up last thing nobody's talking about the
[1:31:47]
Landscaping I'll talk about it really
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fast really fast about the Landscaping
[1:31:52]
the last time they did landscaping they
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let it die let's not do that this time
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let's keep it alive the Rosemary is
[1:31:58]
still alive maybe keep it thanks so much
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thank
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you okay uh Eric
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sonan hi everyone um first of all I'm
[1:32:15]
excited about this project as well I see
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some family like on the other side of
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Glendale so I'm always on that road and
[1:32:21]
it the traffic is horrible um I haven't
[1:32:24]
come here while they've presented before
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so I just was wondering if um the I
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don't know what it's called in the
[1:32:31]
middle the thing that is full of trees
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but the median the median yeah is there
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has that been talked about like if that
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can be made like thinner cuz I it seems
[1:32:42]
like I don't know if that I haven't been
[1:32:45]
here so um but that could be saving some
[1:32:49]
space or cuz I know right now there's
[1:32:51]
nothing there at all so it's kind of
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going to take up a lot of space and then
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I know you mentioned some cross streets
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as to like where it starts and ends but
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uh is there a reason why like it doesn't
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go the whole way through San Fernando
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like from the beginning of South
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Glendale all the way to the end I'd love
[1:33:09]
to know about that that's pretty much
[1:33:13]
it okay thank you oh and then um also
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about the I know he said there's a like
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one of the options had this southbound
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uh southbound uh bike lane could there
[1:33:25]
be an option with like both bounds but
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on that one side cuz I know some bike
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lanes are like that where it's like both
[1:33:33]
ways but it's just like on one side of
[1:33:35]
the street and saves a lot more
[1:33:38]
space yeah okay thank you we'll try to
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answer some of those questions um Mike
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mohill
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evening council members my name is Mike
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mohill I was in the comfort of my home a
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little while ago watching the council
[1:34:00]
meeting and uh this project came up what
[1:34:04]
what caught my eye was you did a survey
[1:34:07]
and x amount of people answered the
[1:34:10]
survey probably knowing history maybe
[1:34:15]
100 maybe
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two but I doubt if a thousand people or
[1:34:20]
more answered the survey
[1:34:22]
how can you get a th people to answer
[1:34:25]
your survey when you require the public
[1:34:27]
to go to the city
[1:34:29]
website or for people will knock on
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doors can I make a suggestion and it's
[1:34:35]
free to the
[1:34:37]
city your Glendo Community newsletter
[1:34:39]
goes out to thousands of Glendo
[1:34:41]
residents and
[1:34:44]
Beyond and it's free to the
[1:34:46]
public if you want to put an
[1:34:49]
announcement for a survey
[1:34:52]
put it in your glender community
[1:34:56]
newsletter and people could answer that
[1:34:58]
survey and send it into the city
[1:35:02]
manager then you'll have a survey how
[1:35:05]
people feel now the only people who are
[1:35:08]
impacted this right now are probably the
[1:35:09]
people who live live in the meded
[1:35:12]
area but you know I live over there by
[1:35:14]
uh sh
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Canyon you know I feel sorry for the
[1:35:18]
people they want bike Lan that's fine
[1:35:21]
okay
[1:35:22]
but why don't you get an opinion from
[1:35:23]
the rest of the city not just for the
[1:35:26]
people who live around the
[1:35:29]
corridor now my wife right now is very
[1:35:31]
mad at I'm talking about this subject
[1:35:32]
matter by the
[1:35:33]
way she said what you should be talking
[1:35:36]
about Mike is the traffic by the advaned
[1:35:39]
hospital that's where you should talk
[1:35:41]
about slowing down
[1:35:44]
traffic but let's talk about
[1:35:46]
surveys let's let's do realistic surveys
[1:35:51]
not not just a couple hundred people get
[1:35:54]
a couple thousand
[1:35:56]
residents they will let you know the
[1:35:59]
people who live up in Mantra will let
[1:36:01]
you know the people who live up in
[1:36:03]
Whiting Woods will let you know Ros Mo
[1:36:06]
Glenn Oaks
[1:36:07]
Canyon South
[1:36:10]
Glendale Adams Hill will let you know
[1:36:13]
but not just the couple hundred people
[1:36:15]
who live along San Fernando Road thank
[1:36:19]
you like I said my Community newslet is
[1:36:22]
free to the public even the city can use
[1:36:25]
it as Announcement by
[1:36:30]
now we we have one caller Dennis W
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Dennis you're on air you have three
[1:36:37]
minutes hi can everybody hear
[1:36:39]
me yes go ahead hello Council my name is
[1:36:43]
Dennis mwyn and I'm a resident of
[1:36:44]
Glendale and live a mile within a mile
[1:36:46]
from San Fernando Road I travel that
[1:36:48]
road often as a driver but never as a
[1:36:50]
cyclist was frankly due to the danger of
[1:36:53]
the proximity and the speed of the car
[1:36:54]
is traveling on that road I'm calling
[1:36:57]
today to voice my support for
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alternative 2A while I believe that the
[1:37:01]
best option is alternative three and
[1:37:02]
it's alternative but with the concerns
[1:37:05]
of the First Responders I can understand
[1:37:06]
why I cannot be completed as currently
[1:37:08]
designed I believe that there are
[1:37:10]
options that can create a protected bik
[1:37:11]
Lane in both directions such as the
[1:37:13]
enforcement of parking rules reducing
[1:37:15]
the number of abandoned cars client cars
[1:37:17]
from adjacent body auto body shops junk
[1:37:19]
hauling trucks crashed vehicles Etc
[1:37:22]
maybe widen the media and put the bike
[1:37:23]
Lanes in the middle of that to protect
[1:37:24]
cyclist or road diet I'm positive that
[1:37:27]
design team can come up with an
[1:37:28]
alternative that promote Mobility safety
[1:37:31]
and
[1:37:32]
equality the installation of a bike lane
[1:37:34]
would create a bike network of bike
[1:37:35]
lanes that would promote a community of
[1:37:37]
Wellness Glendale is a great city with
[1:37:39]
the network of drivers being a dark
[1:37:41]
cloud hovering over the heads of its
[1:37:42]
citizens we have a wonderful opportunity
[1:37:44]
here to continue to separate ourselves
[1:37:46]
from Los Angeles city with a priori
[1:37:49]
prioritization well big word on the
[1:37:51]
citizens of the juel city we're a
[1:37:53]
society of people and the implementation
[1:37:55]
of 2A would be a step towards taking the
[1:37:56]
road back for pedestrians and cyclists
[1:37:58]
and reducing our dependency on cars
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thank
[1:38:01]
you thank you and that's all of our
[1:38:06]
callers that's all okay wonderful Let's
[1:38:09]
uh go around and see what we have thank
[1:38:13]
you um let me ask
[1:38:16]
uh let's see Mr
[1:38:20]
Somerville could we do to the two
[1:38:23]
different options the uh 2A north of the
[1:38:25]
134 and um the two the two south of 134
[1:38:31]
I mean that sounds maybe like a good
[1:38:34]
idea Is it feasible yes right is it
[1:38:37]
impactful for the parking because there
[1:38:39]
are 63 parking stalls on Street on San
[1:38:41]
Fernando Road that's south of the 134
[1:38:44]
that would be eliminated by doing
[1:38:46]
alternative 2 South of the 134 freeway
[1:38:49]
how many 63
[1:38:52]
63 okay and the other question is um the
[1:38:57]
median is right now designed at 9 ft
[1:39:00]
correct correct is it possible to make
[1:39:03]
it narrower so that you know we were um
[1:39:06]
the mayor was asking about the buffer or
[1:39:09]
about a it would take three feet uh to
[1:39:12]
put um another bike path I get a bike
[1:39:15]
lane on the other side uh could you
[1:39:18]
decrease the median and then give us a
[1:39:22]
give us parking and a bike path bike
[1:39:24]
lane I'm sorry bike lane on the east
[1:39:28]
side the 9 ft is the absolute minimum
[1:39:32]
width for the left turn movements that
[1:39:34]
are required at each of the
[1:39:35]
intersections along sanfernando Road
[1:39:38]
it's also the minimum required if we
[1:39:40]
stripe it as a
[1:39:42]
two-way left turn
[1:39:44]
lane for um access in and out of
[1:39:48]
driveways along the corridor that's
[1:39:50]
currently been
[1:39:51]
designed into the project so anything
[1:39:54]
less than nine in all of the left term
[1:39:57]
movements would go away or again it's
[1:40:00]
it's the matter of having to transition
[1:40:01]
in and out as we go and the length it
[1:40:04]
takes to actually make those transitions
[1:40:07]
work with very short spacing
[1:40:11]
intersection to intersection to
[1:40:12]
intersection it's it's say the 14 out of
[1:40:17]
the 17 blocks you're unable to actually
[1:40:19]
Implement any form of buffer at 3T
[1:40:22]
because of the length you need to make
[1:40:23]
the transitions
[1:40:25]
work thank
[1:40:28]
you council member Satan any questions
[1:40:32]
um could you respond to Kate anger's
[1:40:35]
question about um the ability to put
[1:40:38]
bike Lanes um by the
[1:40:42]
134 yes it is she's not wrong it is very
[1:40:46]
tight underneath that freeway in order
[1:40:48]
to um provide the Dual left that that's
[1:40:51]
required in the southbound um we have
[1:40:53]
narrowed the lanes through there in
[1:40:55]
order to fit the one southbound bike
[1:40:58]
lane in there an alternative
[1:41:04]
2A um follow up on that one yeah of
[1:41:06]
course so so that so you've worked out
[1:41:09]
so is there is there a need for any
[1:41:11]
special signal there for because I I
[1:41:14]
can't picture it I'm sorry but but a
[1:41:16]
bike traversing cars getting onto the
[1:41:18]
freeway how does the signaling work
[1:41:20]
there
[1:41:21]
the um southbound the class 2 bike lane
[1:41:24]
in the southbound direction is running
[1:41:26]
along that Westerly curb so it's running
[1:41:28]
right along the railroad Corridor so the
[1:41:31]
bikes themselves are not in conflict
[1:41:34]
with those making the left turn to go
[1:41:36]
onto Dorne Street to go to the freeway
[1:41:38]
they're runting parallel to the
[1:41:39]
southbound movement of
[1:41:41]
cars okay okay did you have another
[1:41:46]
question
[1:41:48]
um no I just have comments so I'll
[1:41:52]
wait okay Council Riv kasak I asked all
[1:41:55]
my questions thanks okay um I don't have
[1:41:59]
much but
[1:42:01]
um I did want to see if you could
[1:42:05]
respond to two questions that uh one of
[1:42:08]
the speakers raised one was why couldn't
[1:42:10]
we do more of San Fernando and the other
[1:42:13]
was about uh two-way bike lane um if you
[1:42:18]
could just explain I know those were in
[1:42:19]
your pres well second one was in your
[1:42:21]
presentation but maybe you could just
[1:42:23]
run through it again for for everyone's
[1:42:25]
sake I'll let me take that one first and
[1:42:27]
I'll hand it to staff about the limit of
[1:42:30]
the project um on that side of it um but
[1:42:33]
yes the alternative 3A was effectively
[1:42:36]
that alternative that provided a two-way
[1:42:40]
cycle track on the west side of San
[1:42:44]
Fernando Road the space required for
[1:42:48]
that still necessitates the need to
[1:42:52]
remove one lane of traffic on the street
[1:42:55]
there's just not enough room curb to
[1:42:56]
curb to fit that facility in um
[1:43:00]
additionally um that alternative because
[1:43:04]
now we have two-way bike traffic on the
[1:43:07]
west side we have cyclists that are
[1:43:09]
going against traffic that requires
[1:43:13]
traffic signal modifications each one of
[1:43:15]
those
[1:43:16]
intersections and the those
[1:43:17]
intersections that include the rail
[1:43:19]
Corridor is what triggers the need to
[1:43:21]
involve the Public Utilities Commission
[1:43:24]
and metr Link and that's a 12 to 18month
[1:43:26]
process to get through that's what the
[1:43:29]
detriment to that
[1:43:31]
alternative okay and the first
[1:43:36]
question uh Mr Mayor the the limits of
[1:43:39]
the uh project were based on the
[1:43:42]
application you know the the Grant
[1:43:44]
application I believe that we had
[1:43:45]
submitted so that's those are that's the
[1:43:48]
extent that we have funding for okay all
[1:43:52]
right um may have one more question you
[1:43:55]
have another question I yes um the
[1:43:59]
images that were shown with the uh junk
[1:44:04]
trucks um along San Fernando I know this
[1:44:08]
is an issue that I've had conversations
[1:44:11]
with staff about previously um how do
[1:44:15]
they get to just park there cuz I know
[1:44:17]
we had that same issue that I had
[1:44:19]
brought up on col
[1:44:21]
where one of the mechanic shops was just
[1:44:23]
putting out all the cars um and not
[1:44:27]
allowing others to park there um it's
[1:44:30]
not just taking away parking um but it's
[1:44:33]
also uh just makes the street look
[1:44:35]
really ugly and you know I see San
[1:44:37]
Fernando also has a connector um Street
[1:44:41]
um when you're trying to go from Las VES
[1:44:43]
to the to glendell and then obviously
[1:44:45]
from glendell to Burbank so um what
[1:44:48]
rules do we have in place that can
[1:44:53]
help get rid of that um what are some
[1:44:56]
measures that we could put in place cuz
[1:44:59]
that seems to be an ongoing problem
[1:45:01]
council member saan I I believe the
[1:45:04]
pictures that the speaker was sharing
[1:45:06]
with you and showing were pictures of
[1:45:08]
trucks that haul away junk per se they
[1:45:12]
were not junk cars and I'm not sure if
[1:45:16]
there's a business on San Fernando or a
[1:45:17]
couple of businesses that are engaged in
[1:45:19]
that kind of business business and those
[1:45:21]
are the trucks they use for their
[1:45:23]
operation and and businesses as far as
[1:45:26]
the auto body shops that you're
[1:45:27]
referring to our code enforcement has
[1:45:30]
been out there our parking enforcement
[1:45:32]
been out there and they site them and uh
[1:45:35]
that's pretty much uh what we can
[1:45:38]
do so they remove them as we site
[1:45:43]
them okay and they they can keep them
[1:45:46]
there for like 3 days out of 10 72 hours
[1:45:48]
per the California vehicle code
[1:45:51]
and if it's even if it's the same
[1:45:52]
vehicle or they just rotate the cars
[1:45:54]
that they
[1:45:56]
have well
[1:45:58]
okay um and then if if we did go with 2A
[1:46:04]
um on the North side and then just two
[1:46:07]
on the south would this delay the
[1:46:09]
project
[1:46:12]
implementation if we moved forward with
[1:46:15]
2A to the north two to the South um the
[1:46:18]
removal of the parking would
[1:46:21]
our recommendation the staff would be to
[1:46:24]
it'd be another round of Outreach to
[1:46:25]
those businesses specifically to
[1:46:27]
understand what the impact is to them to
[1:46:30]
have lost the on street parking and we
[1:46:32]
have gone door too through the corridor
[1:46:35]
we've heard from many of those
[1:46:36]
businesses and the the uniform message
[1:46:41]
was don't touch the parking they need it
[1:46:44]
so there was going to if we move forward
[1:46:47]
with that
[1:46:49]
solution the engagement with the
[1:46:51]
businesses is going to be a critical
[1:46:53]
step actually if I may um council member
[1:46:56]
Satan uh we don't have the time to do
[1:46:59]
any additional Outreach we're looking at
[1:47:02]
10 months to get this project designed
[1:47:04]
and advertised and constructed so you
[1:47:06]
would have to rely on you know the
[1:47:08]
feedback that we got the first time
[1:47:11]
about the uh impact of removing
[1:47:15]
parking that's all the questions I have
[1:47:17]
I want to hear from my colleagues um
[1:47:21]
well I'll just wait when I make comments
[1:47:23]
so okay do you have comments we can I
[1:47:26]
think we can wrap it up okay well I
[1:47:30]
think the project is H is a good one um
[1:47:32]
revitalizing this Corridor is a good
[1:47:34]
idea and we've got the the funding for
[1:47:36]
it uh one thing I noticed uh in the uh
[1:47:40]
the staff report is the fact that if we
[1:47:41]
go with 2A there is still a possibility
[1:47:44]
in the future that we could add a bike
[1:47:46]
lane uh on the other side on the east
[1:47:49]
side so uh giving uh that inform given
[1:47:53]
that information um I think the median
[1:47:55]
the bump outs the C oh that reminds me
[1:47:58]
the crosswalks I don't see that maroon
[1:48:00]
and yellow do I on the oh good okay
[1:48:03]
great I just wanted to make sure that
[1:48:05]
wasn't going to happen down there um but
[1:48:08]
uh I think it's a again a good uh
[1:48:11]
compromise um I and U so I'm going to go
[1:48:14]
along with uh with that recommendation
[1:48:17]
that we use alternative 2A 2A okay
[1:48:23]
colleagues yeah so
[1:48:25]
um I I look very close to this
[1:48:29]
uh these proposed improvements and I can
[1:48:32]
tell you that I'm uh familiar with some
[1:48:35]
of the issues that um Miss hunger
[1:48:37]
pointed out and others have uh I I think
[1:48:41]
that there's not going to necessarily be
[1:48:43]
an ideal solution for anyone because
[1:48:46]
people are very used to um doing things
[1:48:48]
in in a certain way the business
[1:48:50]
businesses are accustomed to uh feeling
[1:48:53]
a sense some businesses not all but some
[1:48:55]
of the businesses have a sense of
[1:48:56]
entitlement to the parking of the public
[1:48:58]
parking that's available there um there
[1:49:01]
isn't necessarily um adherence to the
[1:49:06]
the rules of the road and to the speed
[1:49:09]
limit um at various times it does get
[1:49:11]
congested around um Rush Hour especially
[1:49:14]
as people are either trying to get onto
[1:49:16]
the 134 freeway or get off of it but do
[1:49:20]
believe that one of the things that we
[1:49:22]
continuously hear about and this is
[1:49:25]
being um presented in the in
[1:49:28]
the uh frame of we have to do this for
[1:49:32]
bicyclists or we have to do this for
[1:49:35]
pedestrians uh I'm not necessarily sure
[1:49:38]
if we build it they will come uh but the
[1:49:40]
ones who do use it I suppose will feel a
[1:49:42]
little bit safer if we have uh bike
[1:49:45]
Lanes I personally believe uh protected
[1:49:47]
bike lanes are the best but given a
[1:49:50]
number of considerations that we're
[1:49:51]
trying to balance including the access
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um of uh first responder vehicles uh
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whether it's police or fire I think that
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um alternative 2A is the best compromise
[1:50:03]
we can come up with I would also I also
[1:50:07]
believe that whatever changes we make
[1:50:09]
may have present some challenges
[1:50:11]
initially but people will adapt they
[1:50:14]
will figure out ways around
[1:50:16]
it as far as San Fernando Road is
[1:50:19]
concerned and I've said before in these
[1:50:21]
Chambers and I'll say it again I have a
[1:50:22]
lot of Burbank Envy one of the few
[1:50:25]
things I envy about Burbank um is uh how
[1:50:28]
nice their section of San Fernando Road
[1:50:30]
looks in comparison to ours in
[1:50:33]
comparison to what we have in our
[1:50:34]
medians the the trees the shade um the
[1:50:38]
bus stops uh and I think we could do
[1:50:41]
better on our side now having said that
[1:50:44]
our section of San Fernando is not like
[1:50:46]
burbank's section of San Fernando theirs
[1:50:48]
leads immediately into into a very
[1:50:50]
vibrant downtown area it's more
[1:50:52]
commercial there's some residential
[1:50:53]
whereas ours goes through a much uh more
[1:50:57]
Industrial Area um it is a lot of
[1:51:00]
businesses a lot of shops um a lot of
[1:51:03]
mechanic uh shops and other other
[1:51:06]
different uses light industrial
[1:51:09]
nevertheless that shouldn't be an excuse
[1:51:10]
for it to look the way it does so I
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think that we need to do some
[1:51:15]
improvements and I think 2A um hopefully
[1:51:18]
with some very creative
[1:51:21]
um Nice Landscaping with some more
[1:51:23]
mature trees will make it a more
[1:51:25]
inviting and nicer uh drive for people
[1:51:28]
to enjoy as they slow down with these
[1:51:31]
new changes thank you counc
[1:51:35]
verat um I think what we have in front
[1:51:37]
of is a beautification project and I
[1:51:39]
think that's what we need to be
[1:51:41]
concentrating on with understanding that
[1:51:43]
it's also an opportunity for us to um
[1:51:47]
use it to enhance it um I'm in agreement
[1:51:50]
with the 2A um I do have a couple of
[1:51:52]
comments with respect to I think as
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we're thinking down the road and the
[1:51:56]
opportunities that are there um for the
[1:51:59]
future um to be mindful of the type of
[1:52:02]
green um that we're installing on the
[1:52:04]
railroad side um and making sure that
[1:52:08]
we're actually on the opposite side
[1:52:10]
where the sidewalk is for us to actually
[1:52:12]
have a lot more shade um and shaded
[1:52:15]
trees that um allow for pedestrians to
[1:52:18]
have a better experience
[1:52:20]
um I do want to commend the staff um and
[1:52:23]
the consultant on your community
[1:52:26]
outreach um I was very impressed to see
[1:52:28]
the door knocking numbers um and the
[1:52:32]
different
[1:52:33]
languages um in which you communicated
[1:52:35]
in and keep it the good work
[1:52:38]
thanks thanks and um for me I um I think
[1:52:43]
2A is a good compromise I mean I would
[1:52:46]
you know if everything else were equal I
[1:52:48]
would just go for three or
[1:52:50]
too but um I just think this roadway
[1:52:53]
it's it's it's just too problematic um
[1:52:56]
not the right time but maybe something
[1:52:59]
we could come back to in the future uh
[1:53:01]
if uh Transportation patterns evolve so
[1:53:05]
I'm good with TOA I I I am intrigued by
[1:53:08]
this idea of two to the south of the 134
[1:53:10]
I think um I think the speaker made it
[1:53:14]
you know a very convincing case that the
[1:53:16]
businesses that are there have their own
[1:53:19]
parking and people are not pulling up
[1:53:21]
and parking on the street to engage with
[1:53:24]
those
[1:53:25]
businesses um and a lot of it is red
[1:53:28]
curbs we're not losing that much parking
[1:53:30]
in that area so um and I don't know you
[1:53:33]
say you'd have to go back out and do
[1:53:35]
more Outreach but we've done the
[1:53:37]
Outreach we know the opinions um it's a
[1:53:39]
matter of us making a policy decision so
[1:53:43]
um if my colleagues were were amable I
[1:53:46]
would certainly support to to the the
[1:53:50]
south of the 134 and 2 a to the north um
[1:53:54]
but I'll leave it I'll leave it to the
[1:53:55]
rest of them on that the only other
[1:53:57]
thing I I I do want to bring up kind of
[1:53:59]
a smaller point which is on slide
[1:54:02]
10 um this was brought to my attention
[1:54:06]
if you could pull up slide 10 there
[1:54:09]
um I think you're building in a slip
[1:54:13]
lane right is that that's not there now
[1:54:16]
right that where it says that slip lane
[1:54:19]
it says enhanced cross rock yeah current
[1:54:22]
currently it is a freeer turn movement
[1:54:25]
there this is the lane that heads on
[1:54:27]
Colorado to the freeway ramp um
[1:54:32]
the crosswalk today goes from Curb
[1:54:36]
return to curb return and there's a
[1:54:37]
painted Island out there today right um
[1:54:41]
this is looking we're looking at
[1:54:43]
alternatives for this um because we do
[1:54:45]
know the challenges of having the
[1:54:47]
interface of a free right turn movement
[1:54:49]
versus pedestrians and
[1:54:50]
cyclist um for Solutions this is one of
[1:54:54]
them that we're looking at with a raised
[1:54:56]
Island um it does shorten the the paths
[1:54:59]
of travel it moves The Pedestrian
[1:55:02]
crosswalk across that right turn linee
[1:55:05]
into an area more visible as opposed to
[1:55:08]
being further around the curb return
[1:55:09]
where it's at today um so there's
[1:55:13]
several Alternatives being evaluated
[1:55:15]
there is no final decision yet on what
[1:55:18]
this configuration is going to look like
[1:55:20]
yeah that that I mean we've talked about
[1:55:22]
slip Lanes before and how slip Lanes do
[1:55:24]
encourage uh speeding through an
[1:55:27]
intersection um obviously makes it
[1:55:29]
pretty easy and people are oriented
[1:55:31]
towards getting on the freeway so
[1:55:32]
they've got that that highspeed
[1:55:34]
mentality so they're going to be
[1:55:35]
whipping around that um anybody Crossing
[1:55:38]
that is probably um at some
[1:55:41]
risk uh and um you could you could just
[1:55:46]
have a a sharp turn radius there you
[1:55:48]
could just build it out right um where
[1:55:50]
you have it painted now you could build
[1:55:52]
it out uh I don't know what you would
[1:55:54]
put there but but I would personally I
[1:55:57]
would like to see us look at ways that
[1:55:59]
we can avoid uh creating um a a you know
[1:56:04]
a passageway there that's going to
[1:56:05]
really you know encourage people to
[1:56:08]
speed through it and potentially have
[1:56:09]
conflict with pedestrians so I would
[1:56:11]
just put that out but um I will um take
[1:56:15]
a motion in a second if unless anybody
[1:56:17]
has any more comments is there let me
[1:56:20]
just ask is there support for the no two
[1:56:23]
below the
[1:56:25]
134 I would be open to it no I would not
[1:56:29]
I think that parking is very important
[1:56:30]
to the business owners and um I think
[1:56:33]
that's what we have to take into
[1:56:35]
consideration as well but she the thing
[1:56:37]
was she showed how the business owners
[1:56:39]
don't use that parking because they have
[1:56:42]
large parking lots for their businesses
[1:56:44]
that's where I'm I'm kind of that's what
[1:56:47]
was intriguing about that is if they
[1:56:48]
have their own parking people visiting
[1:56:51]
those businesses are not parking on the
[1:56:53]
street I don't know who is parking on
[1:56:55]
the street if I may Mr Mayor I'd like to
[1:56:57]
ask Mr Somerville to kind of talk a
[1:56:59]
little bit more about that Outreach and
[1:57:01]
what they found south of the uh the
[1:57:03]
freeway yeah and it goes back to the
[1:57:06]
door-to-door canvasing of the businesses
[1:57:08]
through the corridor as a whole and I
[1:57:10]
say unilaterally each of the businesses
[1:57:13]
we're very concerned about losing
[1:57:15]
parking um not every business has
[1:57:19]
off-site parking for themselves um it
[1:57:24]
the parking that was shown offsite are
[1:57:27]
all private lots for
[1:57:29]
businesses it's not public parking as
[1:57:31]
was mentioned previously um so like one
[1:57:35]
can one user can use another parking lot
[1:57:38]
if parking is eliminated they don't have
[1:57:40]
the right to be using the parking lot if
[1:57:42]
it's not their business so it's a it's a
[1:57:45]
little bigger picture view that would
[1:57:48]
have to be looked at about is it is
[1:57:50]
there really sufficient parking out
[1:57:52]
there today but again what we've heard
[1:57:56]
throughout the Outreach efforts
[1:57:58]
was the businesses are relying on the
[1:58:00]
parking for whether it's employees
[1:58:02]
whether it's
[1:58:05]
customers okay may I'm gonna I'm I'm
[1:58:08]
thinking to a 2 a okay that that answer
[1:58:12]
okay well let's get a motion okay I'll
[1:58:14]
I'll move um agend the motion accepting
[1:58:17]
staff's recommendation to proceed with
[1:58:18]
the design
[1:58:19]
for the implmentation of alternative 2A
[1:58:24]
second okay call please council members
[1:58:28]
asan yes Divine yes kakan yes Naran
[1:58:33]
mayor botman
[1:58:34]
yes thank you very much okay our next
[1:58:38]
item next is action item B glendel Water
[1:58:41]
and Power regarding Professional
[1:58:42]
Services agreement with energy and
[1:58:44]
environmental economics Inc E3 to assist
[1:58:47]
glendel water Empower with with the
[1:58:49]
development of a plan to increase solar
[1:58:51]
penetration and develop additional
[1:58:53]
distributed energy resources continued
[1:58:56]
from
[1:58:57]
a2223 CC
[1:58:59]
meeting uh one motion authorizing the
[1:59:02]
city manager or his designed to execute
[1:59:04]
a Professional Services agreement with
[1:59:06]
energy and environmental economics Inc
[1:59:09]
to assist with gwp with the development
[1:59:11]
of a plan to increase solar penetration
[1:59:14]
and develop additional distributed
[1:59:15]
energy resources in the not to exceed
[1:59:18]
amount of
[1:59:26]
[Laughter]
[1:59:48]
$335,500 going to be out of town but he
[1:59:50]
will be able to uh telephonically uh be
[1:59:54]
at the meeting mayor protm the next
[1:59:56]
meeting on city council will be on
[1:59:58]
September 12th on September 12th so if
[2:00:00]
we can um my colleagues would like to um
[2:00:04]
agree to postpone this till next week I
[2:00:07]
am in agreement with
[2:00:10]
that I'm sorry I I'm in
[2:00:13]
agreement understand
[2:00:16]
finean if the mayor has already
[2:00:18]
indicated his willingness to connect to
[2:00:21]
the meeting um remotely who I to argue
[2:00:24]
sure we can move it I would be in
[2:00:26]
agreement with my colleagues thank you
[2:00:28]
very much appreciate that okay next item
[2:00:32]
please next item is action item C
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Community Development regarding landlord
[2:00:37]
tenant ad hoc committee update on work
[2:00:39]
plan continued from 822 2023 city
[2:00:43]
council meeting one motion to approve
[2:00:44]
landlord tenant ad hoc committee
[2:00:46]
suggestions on the rental rights program
[2:00:49]
with the intention of revisiting these
[2:00:50]
suggestions in a Redline version of the
[2:00:52]
ordinance at a subsequent Council meet
[2:00:55]
session two motion to approve rental
[2:00:58]
rights marketing strategy three motion
[2:01:00]
to provide Direction on the desire to
[2:01:02]
establish a dispute resolution mediation
[2:01:08]
program mayor bman and mayor protm dine
[2:01:11]
asked that uh because of the importance
[2:01:14]
of this item and the absence of council
[2:01:17]
member Naran we postponed this to the
[2:01:19]
next council meeting on September 12th
[2:01:22]
when we'll have a full Council and
[2:01:24]
you'll be able to call in as you had
[2:01:28]
noted uh and and your other two
[2:01:31]
colleagues uh agreed with that suggest I
[2:01:35]
I agreed on it based on the assumption
[2:01:36]
that that the mayor had said that
[2:01:40]
yeah we may have to postpone it till
[2:01:43]
till October in that
[2:01:48]
case
[2:01:50]
I mean had you not confirmed that no I
[2:01:52]
mean I'm on a trip to Europe you know um
[2:01:55]
to get up in the middle of the night to
[2:01:57]
make a vote on something that we talked
[2:01:59]
about is something I could do but to get
[2:02:02]
on for an important item like this
[2:02:05]
um is is you know that's not a
[2:02:09]
reasonable request council member Divine
[2:02:11]
did you have
[2:02:14]
information about the mayor's yeah I
[2:02:17]
understood that he would able to on yeah
[2:02:20]
B telephonically I did not agree to that
[2:02:24]
well staff's already gone so um well
[2:02:27]
then we're going to have to postpone it
[2:02:29]
till I'm I'm a little ped that I I was
[2:02:32]
led to believe that the mayor was going
[2:02:34]
to anyways I apologize mayor brotman
[2:02:38]
should have waited for you to return
[2:02:39]
into the chambers before we agreed to
[2:02:42]
move on to something that would have
[2:02:43]
been nice the mayor uh just for
[2:02:46]
clarification the mayor had indicated
[2:02:48]
that he is able to call in to vote but
[2:02:52]
as the mayor uh again uh indicated maybe
[2:02:56]
he can call in for uh to cast a vote but
[2:03:00]
to participate in deliberations maybe
[2:03:02]
that'll be difficult for
[2:03:04]
him oh I I think it would only be fair
[2:03:07]
that all parties that want to be here
[2:03:10]
are here in person and so I supported
[2:03:13]
that with the understanding that I was
[2:03:17]
under the impression that the mayor was
[2:03:18]
okay with the
[2:03:21]
okay so we'll wait until probably the
[2:03:23]
first meeting in October it will be
[2:03:25]
October 10th mayor pman all apologies to
[2:03:27]
anyone who my apologies to anyone who
[2:03:29]
came here expecting to have this
[2:03:31]
discussion this
[2:03:35]
evening okay it is what it
[2:03:38]
is
[2:03:42]
umman item 8C was already right to the
[2:03:46]
record
[2:03:47]
okay
[2:03:50]
so where are we now you want um mayor
[2:03:52]
bman mayor the city council at the last
[2:03:55]
council meeting last Tuesday you uh
[2:03:58]
received a report regarding the landlord
[2:04:00]
tenant ad hoc committee update on their
[2:04:03]
work plan um they had um primarily three
[2:04:06]
main tasks that included the rental
[2:04:09]
rights uh program
[2:04:11]
ordinance uh developing education and
[2:04:13]
marketing strategies and evaluating a
[2:04:16]
voluntary uh dispute resolution program
[2:04:19]
at the last meeting um uh Mr zadorian
[2:04:23]
presented the first item the first task
[2:04:26]
and received Direction and suggestions
[2:04:29]
from Council and Council decided to
[2:04:31]
continue the other two items to this
[2:04:33]
evening uh that will be related to
[2:04:36]
marketing strategies and again uh
[2:04:38]
voluntary dispe resolution program that
[2:04:41]
Mr zorian will walk you
[2:04:43]
through good afternoon mayor city
[2:04:45]
council uh as Mr Ganan said I'm going to
[2:04:48]
to be continuing the discussion on the
[2:04:51]
ad out committee's work plan we're going
[2:04:53]
to start with the marketing aspect and
[2:04:54]
then later on the mediation so the
[2:04:58]
council tasked with the committee with
[2:05:00]
uh looking into the marketing and
[2:05:02]
Outreach strategy of the uh rental
[2:05:04]
rights program uh staff took a couple of
[2:05:07]
reports to the committee the committee
[2:05:09]
discussed strategies and staff took
[2:05:12]
their insights and came up with this uh
[2:05:14]
report that we're presenting today um so
[2:05:20]
the committee had three goals in mind
[2:05:22]
when they discuss the strategy uh
[2:05:25]
including increasing awareness promoting
[2:05:27]
engagement and providing education and
[2:05:29]
resources uh so for the increased
[2:05:32]
awareness obviously we want to be uh we
[2:05:34]
want the community to know that we exist
[2:05:36]
uh they're aware of us want to get the
[2:05:38]
word out on the rental rights program so
[2:05:39]
tenants and landlords are aware of the
[2:05:41]
program and can utilize um the services
[2:05:44]
and the protections to promote
[2:05:46]
engagement we want the commune Community
[2:05:49]
to be able to come to us engage with our
[2:05:52]
content so we understand what their
[2:05:54]
needs are and we can better address
[2:05:56]
those needs and third uh provide
[2:05:58]
education and out uh resources obviously
[2:06:00]
we want to be able to have resources
[2:06:02]
available to provide to them when they
[2:06:04]
come to us when they visit our websites
[2:06:06]
when they see us on social media
[2:06:11]
and so the first part of
[2:06:15]
that well I have a slide missing here
[2:06:17]
but the first part of that was creating
[2:06:19]
a website uh that would serve as a hub
[2:06:22]
for the rental rights program our
[2:06:24]
current website is a little funky uh
[2:06:26]
it's hard to navigate so the goal was to
[2:06:28]
create a website that is user friendly
[2:06:31]
easy to navigate uh it serves as a
[2:06:33]
central hub for landlords and tenants to
[2:06:35]
access information uh guides find out
[2:06:38]
when events are coming up
[2:06:41]
uh frequently ask questions and an easy
[2:06:44]
place for for them to access have a
[2:06:47]
quick video here of the website what it
[2:06:49]
might look like uh so the main page
[2:06:51]
would include perent information uh easy
[2:06:54]
to
[2:06:56]
access guides contact information down
[2:06:59]
there and then up here you'd have uh
[2:07:02]
different links that lead to guides
[2:07:04]
again uh for fair housing ab1 1482 our
[2:07:08]
main brenal rights program just CA you
[2:07:11]
location ass distance and each of those
[2:07:13]
will have a detailed guide on what those
[2:07:17]
sections entail and then uh again more
[2:07:22]
guides and up there we go soon as events
[2:07:26]
you'll be able
[2:07:27]
to or resources I'm sorry so this page
[2:07:31]
will have a video guide in multiple
[2:07:34]
languages I forgot to mention that the
[2:07:36]
website will be available in multiple
[2:07:37]
languages including Armenian Spanish uh
[2:07:40]
tagalag and Korean at the very least uh
[2:07:43]
again events page you'll be able to go
[2:07:45]
and see what our future upcoming events
[2:07:47]
on FAQ for any question questions that
[2:07:49]
landlords or tenants have and a contact
[2:07:52]
page it just has our contact information
[2:07:56]
so the other aspect of our marketing is
[2:07:58]
social media something that we need to
[2:08:00]
improve on and the committee noticed
[2:08:02]
that and with as far as social media is
[2:08:05]
concerned um we're going to create new
[2:08:08]
content hopefully use the city's U
[2:08:11]
already existing social media platforms
[2:08:14]
to reach an a specific audience
[2:08:16]
considering social media we can Target
[2:08:17]
specific audiences that we want to get
[2:08:20]
the information that glendell residents
[2:08:22]
renters
[2:08:23]
homeowners um social media is going to
[2:08:27]
be targeting a younger audience versus
[2:08:29]
our traditional medium where we target
[2:08:32]
an older audience uh the good thing
[2:08:34]
about social media is that it's organic
[2:08:37]
sharing uh um the organic sharing allows
[2:08:40]
it to reach a wider audience so we might
[2:08:43]
create content for specific audience but
[2:08:45]
through the medium it gets shared with
[2:08:48]
but an audience that we weren't
[2:08:49]
expecting to share with so the reach is
[2:08:52]
much wider um we create again compelling
[2:08:56]
content
[2:08:57]
infograph um staff describing the
[2:09:03]
program so our traditional marketing
[2:09:05]
will continue uh with print material we
[2:09:08]
plan on sending targeted mailers uh
[2:09:10]
we've done this in the past where we
[2:09:12]
target uh majority of residents in
[2:09:14]
glendell and landlords in and outside of
[2:09:17]
glendell uh we will be uh sending flyers
[2:09:20]
and brur in the gwp mailers and uh we
[2:09:25]
also plan on sending BR to any new
[2:09:27]
properties that are purchased in
[2:09:28]
glendell so the landlords are aware of
[2:09:29]
our rules and reg regulations we also
[2:09:33]
plan on having inserts in what used to
[2:09:35]
be called the thirds day folders for
[2:09:36]
gusd I'm not sure what that process is
[2:09:39]
now but they do send out packets to
[2:09:41]
students so we plan on doing that as
[2:09:45]
well and another new part of of what the
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committee uh recommended was creating
[2:09:51]
Partnerships in the community with
[2:09:53]
existing
[2:09:54]
organizations uh we want to build
[2:09:56]
relationships with management companies
[2:09:58]
tenant organizations landlord
[2:09:59]
organizations so we're aware of the
[2:10:01]
problems before they become much bigger
[2:10:03]
problems so we can address them quicker
[2:10:05]
uh so we can leverage resource resources
[2:10:08]
and expertise uh so we can train their
[2:10:10]
staff if they need training so we can
[2:10:12]
understand what their needs are as uh
[2:10:14]
landlords and
[2:10:17]
tenants
[2:10:19]
and then we will continue community
[2:10:21]
outreach uh our plan is to go into each
[2:10:24]
neighborhood of glendell have small
[2:10:26]
intimate meetings we used to have much
[2:10:28]
larger meetings but it U we found that
[2:10:30]
it wasn't effective not a lot of people
[2:10:32]
were showing up but our smaller intimate
[2:10:34]
meetings in specific neighborhoods we
[2:10:37]
were getting a lot of traction so we're
[2:10:38]
going to continue that uh we'll make
[2:10:40]
sure to cover uh all areas of glendell
[2:10:43]
multiple languages uh each month we will
[2:10:46]
be at a different neighborhood in GL
[2:10:48]
lendel just to make sure that we cover
[2:10:49]
cover our
[2:10:52]
bases and then yearly we will evaluate
[2:10:54]
the uh effectiveness of the Outreach So
[2:10:59]
based on how uh how how many people are
[2:11:02]
showing up at our meetings uh social
[2:11:05]
media analytics website reach um and we
[2:11:09]
will refine and optimize based on that
[2:11:11]
data to create a better program moving
[2:11:13]
forward create a better Outreach and see
[2:11:15]
where we're being effective and where
[2:11:16]
we're not uh this is the timeline of how
[2:11:20]
we plan on doing things so we'll
[2:11:21]
launched the website we'll conduct
[2:11:23]
surveys in the beginning so we can have
[2:11:25]
something to test against uh later on in
[2:11:28]
the months we'll develop print materials
[2:11:30]
in the second month launch the website
[2:11:33]
uh create
[2:11:35]
newsletters start booking venues for the
[2:11:38]
events and then on to the third and
[2:11:41]
fourth month start social media
[2:11:43]
advertising Distributing the print
[2:11:46]
materials five uh month five and six gwp
[2:11:50]
mailers uh Community workshops more
[2:11:53]
targeted social media advertising and
[2:11:56]
then the rest of it is basically repeat
[2:11:58]
until uh 910 where we analyze the
[2:12:02]
results and either come back to council
[2:12:05]
with a new plan or continue if it's an
[2:12:07]
effective uh marketing
[2:12:09]
strategy uh that concludes the first
[2:12:11]
part as far as
[2:12:16]
advertising um you want to just move on
[2:12:19]
and we'll do the second part and then
[2:12:20]
well why don't we just comment on this
[2:12:22]
have any comments well I just wanted to
[2:12:23]
say it seems like very comprehensive
[2:12:25]
marketing strategy uh you're hitting all
[2:12:28]
you know every neighborhood every trying
[2:12:31]
to get every person in the gwp mailing
[2:12:34]
list every language is being considered
[2:12:37]
you you've um simplified I think uh I'll
[2:12:40]
have to try it myself then I'll know uh
[2:12:43]
the uh the website so um thank you for
[2:12:46]
for all of this and uh um I hopefully
[2:12:49]
that uh you know we we can get the word
[2:12:51]
out using all of your your new
[2:12:53]
strategies thank
[2:12:55]
you do you have any questions or
[2:12:57]
comments or I I do okay okay well then
[2:13:01]
we'll go through this one first so um
[2:13:04]
currently how does one get a hold of a
[2:13:06]
live person I think that the website
[2:13:09]
that you showed has pretty good
[2:13:11]
information on there but if someone
[2:13:13]
wants to speak to an actual person and I
[2:13:16]
say this because I know that the city
[2:13:18]
went through an exercise of creating a
[2:13:20]
number of Phone trees and Pathways to
[2:13:23]
try and um create efficiencies I
[2:13:27]
personally am a little oldfashioned and
[2:13:29]
I like to actually speak to a living
[2:13:31]
human being right so uh our hotline we
[2:13:34]
have a hotline it's on all on on all our
[2:13:36]
brur it's
[2:13:46]
8185483280 and rent glendaleca.gov if
[2:13:50]
anyone wants to email
[2:13:52]
us both again myself and Andra need
[2:13:55]
respond and so this is a number through
[2:13:57]
which we received uh what was it about
[2:14:00]
600 or 800 calls or uh the 600 calls
[2:14:04]
would be this year but it's already 800
[2:14:06]
since uh I believe the report was
[2:14:08]
released but 800 calls that's the number
[2:14:10]
that uh people are calling that's how
[2:14:14]
how we're getting that figure so um
[2:14:16]
after someone calls that number and
[2:14:18]
we've spoken to them do we ask a
[2:14:21]
question how did you hear about this
[2:14:22]
number no we have not been asking that
[2:14:24]
question okay um I would like to see us
[2:14:27]
ask that question because that is going
[2:14:29]
to help us understand where and how
[2:14:31]
people are getting information they
[2:14:33]
obviously found the number it would be
[2:14:34]
good to know which of the methods of
[2:14:36]
getting the information out there is
[2:14:37]
most effective maybe people are using an
[2:14:40]
online search engine to come across it
[2:14:41]
or you know they're Meandering through
[2:14:44]
the Maze of a municipal website find it
[2:14:46]
um also a bus ads are we going to be
[2:14:49]
utilizing bus shelter ads or our own um
[2:14:52]
beine buses to promote this program that
[2:14:55]
has been a thought but we haven't really
[2:14:57]
looked into it we can look into doing
[2:14:59]
that we thought about it but nothing
[2:15:01]
serious but we
[2:15:03]
can well I I I would certainly support
[2:15:06]
the idea of using bus um our bus system
[2:15:09]
to get the information out there in fact
[2:15:11]
the more we can do the better but uh I
[2:15:14]
also would like us to know how people
[2:15:15]
are hearing about us and then also if
[2:15:18]
there is the possibility I don't want to
[2:15:20]
inundate folks um with information but
[2:15:24]
uh getting a survey answered uh or a few
[2:15:28]
questions that can ascertain what their
[2:15:31]
impression of of the service that they
[2:15:34]
received or the answers they received
[2:15:35]
was was it helpful was it not helpful
[2:15:38]
Etc thank
[2:15:41]
you um you went through the website
[2:15:44]
really quickly um I didn't catch um is
[2:15:48]
there an option um for translation of
[2:15:51]
the website materials yes uh we're going
[2:15:53]
to have it available in again Spanish
[2:15:56]
Armenian Korean talag and every other
[2:15:59]
language that we have access to with
[2:16:01]
through the translator okay um I think
[2:16:04]
the two other I mean this is really um
[2:16:07]
impressive and extensive um I would
[2:16:10]
definitely add um ethnic
[2:16:14]
media um to your list for outreach um I
[2:16:17]
think whether it's the um Latino
[2:16:20]
Community the Filipino and Korean or the
[2:16:24]
Armenian um the demographic tends to
[2:16:27]
also the most vulnerable tend to also
[2:16:29]
turn to you know even like the Army and
[2:16:32]
TV stations um for their information and
[2:16:36]
whether it's through interviews or
[2:16:38]
through an ad that we can we can place
[2:16:42]
and then I think with the Partnerships
[2:16:45]
um one of the names or one of the
[2:16:47]
categories that I think is missing is
[2:16:48]
the senior buildings and the senior
[2:16:51]
housing buildings I think you know
[2:16:53]
making sure that this information is
[2:16:55]
also reaching the
[2:16:57]
seniors would be critical that's
[2:17:00]
it thank you and yeah I I'll just say I
[2:17:04]
I think this is really strong uh
[2:17:07]
comprehensive plan and uh I'm excited to
[2:17:10]
see us execute it um on the on the
[2:17:15]
rotating workshops I I I like I like
[2:17:18]
that and and hope that um and I think
[2:17:20]
the intent is is to be reaching out to
[2:17:22]
both tenants and landlords and making
[2:17:24]
sure that um the community on you know
[2:17:27]
both both of these groups understand
[2:17:29]
what the rules of the road are um
[2:17:32]
because um as I've spoken to some people
[2:17:36]
about I think part of the problem is
[2:17:37]
people just don't necessarily know what
[2:17:40]
the obligations are of a landlord what
[2:17:42]
the what the obligations are of a tenant
[2:17:43]
and the rights and and all that so um so
[2:17:47]
it's great
[2:17:48]
yeah okay let's move on then to the next
[2:17:53]
piece
[2:17:58]
so no we're not done we're not done the
[2:18:01]
agenda yeah we'll move on to the second
[2:18:03]
part so the third U act action or the
[2:18:08]
third item that the committee was uh uh
[2:18:11]
signed to review was a mediation program
[2:18:13]
and the possibility of implementing one
[2:18:16]
in glendel um I'm going to present the
[2:18:19]
a PowerPoint similar to what was
[2:18:22]
presented to the committee and then we
[2:18:24]
can discuss their uh s suggestions on a
[2:18:27]
mediation program so as you all are
[2:18:30]
aware a mediation program is uh designed
[2:18:32]
to basically bring two parties together
[2:18:34]
to come to a conclu uh or work things
[2:18:37]
out as simple as that uh two parties
[2:18:40]
that have an issue uh it's designed to
[2:18:42]
put them in a room together so they can
[2:18:44]
come to a conclusion that's beneficial
[2:18:46]
for both parties or find find some
[2:18:47]
common
[2:18:48]
ground um if the council decides that
[2:18:51]
they want to move forward with a
[2:18:53]
mediation program there are going to be
[2:18:54]
a few points decision points uh we'll
[2:18:58]
have to decide whether it's a voluntary
[2:18:59]
program or mediation or mandatory
[2:19:01]
program so that would mean whether the
[2:19:04]
landlords or tenants are required to
[2:19:06]
participate or their participation is
[2:19:09]
voluntary we would have to figure out
[2:19:11]
what type of disputes the program
[2:19:12]
addresses rent increases security
[2:19:14]
deposits evictions um what who operates
[2:19:17]
the program whether it's a professional
[2:19:19]
staff that we hire or outside uh
[2:19:23]
consultant or commission or board um
[2:19:26]
outcome type binding or non-binding uh
[2:19:28]
technically this would have to be
[2:19:30]
non-binding otherwise it would fall into
[2:19:32]
the CATE category of arbitration and
[2:19:34]
we're looking at mediation so this would
[2:19:36]
have to be non-binding and then
[2:19:38]
exemptions what type of properties are
[2:19:39]
exempt who's exempt is a duplex of
[2:19:41]
single fames in included in the program
[2:19:44]
uh hearing type is it a formal process
[2:19:46]
is it going to be be informal just a
[2:19:48]
phone call have people discuss it over
[2:19:50]
the phone on Zoom um and then is will
[2:19:54]
there be an ability to appeal the
[2:19:55]
decision if a decision is
[2:19:58]
made so when staff looked into programs
[2:20:01]
we looked at other municipalities that
[2:20:03]
had similar mediation programs we
[2:20:06]
focused on the City of Burbank County of
[2:20:08]
marine and Santa Monica city of Santa
[2:20:11]
Monica uh they all have varying programs
[2:20:13]
that's why we decided to go with these
[2:20:15]
three and they were the only ones that
[2:20:17]
respond to our emails uh City of Burbank
[2:20:20]
has a program U that's ran through its
[2:20:23]
commission the commission is similar to
[2:20:25]
our committee it's made up of landlords
[2:20:27]
and tenants that are U assigned by their
[2:20:30]
city council it's a non-mandatory
[2:20:32]
non-binding program uh they address rent
[2:20:36]
increases evictions relocations
[2:20:37]
basically all tenant and landlord
[2:20:39]
related issues in 2022 they had about 87
[2:20:44]
uh individuals or families in uh
[2:20:47]
ask for mediation from the committee is
[2:20:50]
submitted to the city for review so the
[2:20:52]
way their process works is uh if someone
[2:20:55]
calls into their City of Burbank they
[2:20:57]
say I'm having a problem with my landl
[2:20:59]
I'm having a problem with my tenant the
[2:21:01]
staff offers mediation through their
[2:21:03]
commission uh form is filled out it's
[2:21:06]
given to the commission the individual
[2:21:08]
either goes in front of the commission
[2:21:10]
or if it's a it's something that the
[2:21:11]
staff can handle they give them uh their
[2:21:14]
Solutions I have a little exerpt from
[2:21:15]
one of their meetings so someone um went
[2:21:18]
to the commission for mediation and
[2:21:21]
basically it's very basic all they did
[2:21:23]
was provide information to the tenant so
[2:21:26]
that their program is bare none it's
[2:21:29]
very informal it's just information they
[2:21:31]
don't really get in a room together with
[2:21:34]
a tenant and landlord and try to discuss
[2:21:36]
their issue so it's very B basic Just
[2:21:38]
for information I I have a question yeah
[2:21:40]
I thought the Burbank had a three-person
[2:21:42]
committee that handled these and it was
[2:21:44]
mostly education Outreach it wasn't I
[2:21:47]
didn't think it was the commission that
[2:21:49]
handled these cases so I believe the
[2:21:52]
commission assigns their members to
[2:21:54]
handle them so they might have signed
[2:21:57]
three individuals to handle these type
[2:21:59]
of cases but each time I think uh
[2:22:01]
commission members are assigned
[2:22:03]
depending on what type of problems the
[2:22:06]
public go I know they had they had at
[2:22:07]
least one resident on the on the on that
[2:22:10]
committee Susie Jacobs was one of them
[2:22:13]
and um she she resigned so um I don't
[2:22:16]
even know how what what they're doing
[2:22:18]
right now but uh it was mostly Outreach
[2:22:20]
and education like you said those are
[2:22:22]
really mediation yeah that's the uh
[2:22:25]
commissioner job is um education and
[2:22:27]
Outreach but they they also mediate or
[2:22:30]
what they call
[2:22:31]
mediation um so we spoke to the staff
[2:22:34]
regarding funding they said because it's
[2:22:37]
part of their bigger housing program
[2:22:38]
they couldn't identify exactly how much
[2:22:40]
it cost but they did say it's about
[2:22:42]
100,000 to administer program um they
[2:22:45]
have dedicated staff just for the
[2:22:47]
program or one mediator I should
[2:22:50]
say and then Marine county is a
[2:22:53]
mandatory non-binding program with
[2:22:55]
Marine County the only portion of it
[2:22:56]
that's mandatory is when the rent is
[2:22:58]
increased over 5% so if a landlord
[2:23:00]
increases ATT tenants rent over 5% and
[2:23:03]
that tenant wants mediation they can
[2:23:06]
request it and the landlord is required
[2:23:08]
to participate if they want the rents
[2:23:10]
increased uh tenant can agree with the
[2:23:13]
increase doesn't have to request
[2:23:15]
mediation uh but if they do landlord is
[2:23:17]
required to participate all other
[2:23:20]
disputes secure deposit evictions
[2:23:22]
they're not mandatory so the the
[2:23:24]
landlord does not have to
[2:23:26]
participate uh they had 118 cases were
[2:23:30]
mediated 287 were
[2:23:32]
requested
[2:23:34]
um the process I forgot to mention
[2:23:36]
Burbank it takes about a month to
[2:23:38]
mediate the process and for Marines
[2:23:40]
County case it's 8 to 12
[2:23:42]
weeks and their budget again it was part
[2:23:45]
of their bigger program they weren't
[2:23:48]
able to narrow anything down with Marine
[2:23:50]
County they actually work with uh a
[2:23:52]
couple of other cities to administer the
[2:23:54]
program and they also have dedicated
[2:23:58]
staff and last Santa Monica it's a n non
[2:24:02]
man uh non-mandatory non-binding program
[2:24:05]
it's part of their bigger rent control
[2:24:06]
program uh they cover all tenant
[2:24:09]
landlord disputes but again it's not
[2:24:11]
mandatory to participate they had 111
[2:24:14]
rent decrease cases 11 Construction
[2:24:17]
decrease cases and 16 excessive rent
[2:24:20]
cases um they take about 180 days to
[2:24:24]
respond but currently it takes much
[2:24:26]
longer according to staff and uh their
[2:24:29]
total budget is 5 million and they again
[2:24:31]
couldn't pinpoint how much of that is
[2:24:33]
spent on mediation 5 million is for
[2:24:35]
their entire rent control budget and
[2:24:37]
they have uh multiple staff that
[2:24:39]
administers one hearing officer uh oh
[2:24:42]
sorry three hearing officers one
[2:24:44]
mediator so they got a a big staff and
[2:24:47]
they cover all their run control units
[2:24:48]
so it's a much much bigger
[2:24:51]
program before we move on to potential
[2:24:54]
costs I do want to mention that glendell
[2:24:56]
had a program about in 2002 it lasted
[2:25:00]
all of six months I believe it was a
[2:25:02]
voluntary program uh no one participated
[2:25:04]
so it was discontinued um just wanted to
[2:25:08]
mention that we did attempt this about
[2:25:10]
20 years ago again it was
[2:25:13]
voluntary 6 months I believe it lasted
[2:25:15]
before it was discontinued
[2:25:17]
um so potential cost again we couldn't
[2:25:19]
get anything specific from the other
[2:25:21]
cities but staff was able to put
[2:25:23]
something together based on how much it
[2:25:24]
would cost to hire a mediator or
[2:25:27]
professionals that do mediation or an
[2:25:29]
agency that would perform those services
[2:25:31]
or something that's more formal uh for a
[2:25:34]
formal process is upwards of
[2:25:36]
300,000 uh for mediation with a
[2:25:39]
commission similar to burbank's we
[2:25:41]
estimated around 990,000 most uh for an
[2:25:44]
informal voluntary participation again
[2:25:47]
uh similar
[2:25:49]
to the one we had earlier we think if we
[2:25:52]
hire a professional it would be upwards
[2:25:54]
of 200,000 and then if we
[2:25:57]
Outsource uh could cost anywhere from 20
[2:25:59]
to 100,000 depending on how many cases
[2:26:01]
we're referring to them and uh how we
[2:26:04]
set up the
[2:26:06]
programs so the adoc committee discussed
[2:26:09]
everything uh they recommended that the
[2:26:12]
city at least try for a few months a
[2:26:15]
mediation program voluntary mediation
[2:26:18]
program a
[2:26:19]
non-binding uh to cover most every
[2:26:22]
Everything a tenant or landlord could
[2:26:24]
have a dispute about rent increases
[2:26:26]
secur deposit evictions habitability
[2:26:28]
relocation and other relevant issues uh
[2:26:32]
they uh suggested a hybrid model with a
[2:26:35]
board and commission similar to Burbank
[2:26:37]
and dedicated staff so a mediator plus a
[2:26:41]
board um again they discussed that the
[2:26:44]
mediate should mediator should have
[2:26:48]
uh the proper qualifications and
[2:26:50]
training to
[2:26:52]
mediate uh they felt that a formal
[2:26:55]
process would be best so nothing
[2:26:57]
informal they want both tenant and
[2:26:59]
landlord in a room together to discuss
[2:27:01]
their issues with a mediator prison
[2:27:03]
instead of maybe a staff member calling
[2:27:05]
the landlord and tenant trying to
[2:27:07]
mediate the situation for them they want
[2:27:09]
a formal process
[2:27:12]
um I have I think that concludes my
[2:27:15]
presentation so ultimately the med the
[2:27:18]
committee's suggestion was to have a
[2:27:20]
program um and a trial run and then
[2:27:24]
ultimately see how that works before we
[2:27:27]
commit to
[2:27:28]
anything okay thank you let's uh see if
[2:27:31]
we have questions before we go to the
[2:27:33]
callers are there
[2:27:35]
questions questions I just have one um
[2:27:39]
have we looked to see if LA county has
[2:27:42]
anything CU I'm looking you know one of
[2:27:44]
these options that you laid out in front
[2:27:46]
of us is
[2:27:47]
so LA county has a mediation program
[2:27:50]
through their consumer and business
[2:27:52]
Affairs Department I believe uhhuh um I
[2:27:56]
it works similar tenants landlords
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request
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mediation uh they con contact them
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schedule a date it's it's voluntary so
[2:28:04]
neither party has to participate I'm not
[2:28:08]
100% sure I I contacted them to see how
[2:28:10]
many uh cases they've had within glendel
[2:28:13]
I haven't heard back uh but that is an
[2:28:16]
option but Marine counties is mandatory
[2:28:19]
Marine county is mandatory only when the
[2:28:21]
increas is above 5% a rent increases
[2:28:23]
above 5% the other issues they're not
[2:28:26]
mandatory so if the lieutenant and
[2:28:28]
landlord are having a problem with uh
[2:28:31]
the laundry facility not working that
[2:28:34]
they're not going to dispute that those
[2:28:35]
types of situations oh so Maring
[2:28:37]
counties is uh required if it's sorry
[2:28:40]
council member end it's required for
[2:28:42]
five more than 5% how does that um so
[2:28:46]
work with the state uh
[2:28:49]
rules caps so the state cap is
[2:28:53]
8.8% um I would assume that if an
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increase is above
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5% they require that mediation to take
[2:29:01]
place so their increase can't be above
[2:29:03]
8% at no any time um but if it's above
[2:29:06]
5% and the Tenant wants the mediation
[2:29:09]
the landlord is required to
[2:29:12]
participat div and uh also in Marine C
[2:29:16]
oh sorry that's Santa Monica they have
[2:29:18]
fees that are attached to their
[2:29:20]
mediation right their fees are I think
[2:29:23]
mostly related to their rent control
[2:29:25]
program that cuz it's a much different
[2:29:27]
animal of Santa Monica but we want to
[2:29:29]
include it just so there's a variety uh
[2:29:32]
because a lot of these mediation
[2:29:34]
programs are attached to rent control
[2:29:36]
programs throughout California at
[2:29:39]
least okay thank you more um do you need
[2:29:44]
anything about um us working with
[2:29:46]
neighborhood Legal Services right uh
[2:29:48]
neighbor Legal Services we do refer in
[2:29:51]
people there but they only handle
[2:29:53]
evictions and at the point of where
[2:29:55]
they're at unlawful detainers so if the
[2:29:58]
landlord issues an eviction they won't
[2:30:00]
take it on until that tenant has
[2:30:02]
officially been evicted through unlawful
[2:30:04]
detainer through the courts uh they
[2:30:07]
they're just inundated so they don't
[2:30:09]
have time to take on every case and do
[2:30:12]
we know of any other community resources
[2:30:15]
that are available that don't have that
[2:30:17]
load uh we refer to housing rights
[2:30:20]
Center as well Armenia Bar Association
[2:30:23]
but everybody's pretty pretty busy
[2:30:27]
okay okay let's um let's hear from our
[2:30:31]
speakers and do we have any callers we
[2:30:33]
do not have any callers don't okay well
[2:30:35]
we have three speakers we'll start with
[2:30:37]
Karen
[2:30:43]
qua hi I'm Karen Clark I watch most but
[2:30:47]
not all 11 meetings of the tenant
[2:30:49]
landlord committee I spoke once or twice
[2:30:51]
but mostly I listened with a lot of
[2:30:52]
Parental Pride as Mr Peter Zak noted the
[2:30:55]
medior was released after a couple of
[2:30:57]
meetings because they were not needed Mr
[2:31:00]
zovak and Mr zadorian did a fine job of
[2:31:03]
mediating the discussions themselves by
[2:31:05]
the way that's a genuine compliment from
[2:31:06]
me to the city I don't make them often
[2:31:08]
please enjoy it while it
[2:31:10]
lasts if the five of you have not
[2:31:12]
watched any of these committee meetings
[2:31:14]
I highly recommend that you do so
[2:31:16]
because they are unlike the discussions
[2:31:18]
held by any other City border commission
[2:31:21]
I suggest that you watch the meeting
[2:31:22]
from February 22 2023 where two tenants
[2:31:26]
came to talk about the serious
[2:31:27]
electrical problem they had for months
[2:31:29]
in an apartment they rented from one of
[2:31:31]
the landlord members of the tenant
[2:31:33]
landord committee that particular
[2:31:35]
landlord had spent months bragging about
[2:31:38]
what a great landlord he was and how his
[2:31:40]
tenants had no complaints about him well
[2:31:43]
after that more of his tenants came
[2:31:45]
forth to complain about the their
[2:31:46]
Apartments this is why it's critical to
[2:31:48]
hear from tants directly instead of
[2:31:51]
relying on the word of landlords if you
[2:31:53]
see any other landlords who come to City
[2:31:55]
Hall bragging about what great landlords
[2:31:57]
they are I suggest that you take their
[2:31:59]
claims with a bucket of salt and ask to
[2:32:01]
hear what their tenants think the
[2:32:03]
committee members staff and public
[2:32:05]
engaged in Lively discussions to reach
[2:32:07]
the recommendations that you're
[2:32:08]
considering today the gentleman in the
[2:32:10]
neutral seat on the committee is
[2:32:12]
actually a landlord so if anything the
[2:32:14]
committee's conclusions represent the
[2:32:16]
use of landlords more than that of
[2:32:18]
tenants Mr neutral landlord judge was
[2:32:21]
part of the legal team that wrote
[2:32:22]
glendale's just cause eviction ordinance
[2:32:24]
about 20 years ago and he was the first
[2:32:27]
to say that the ordinance needs to be
[2:32:28]
clarified and
[2:32:29]
updated I love it when committee members
[2:32:32]
in City staff cover all the points that
[2:32:33]
need to be covered so that I don't need
[2:32:35]
to say anything I have one suggestion
[2:32:38]
however from my unique Vantage Point
[2:32:40]
most of the committee members do not
[2:32:42]
watch City Council meetings and correct
[2:32:44]
me if I'm wrong but not none of you have
[2:32:46]
watched any tendent llord committee
[2:32:48]
meetings this makes it hard for the
[2:32:50]
committee to understand how they can
[2:32:52]
advise the council and it also makes it
[2:32:54]
hard for the council to know what the
[2:32:55]
committee can do this Gap can be bridged
[2:32:58]
by assigning a council of the aison to
[2:33:00]
each City commission or board like my
[2:33:02]
former City of Salem
[2:33:04]
Massachusetts Salem has over n over 40
[2:33:07]
City commissions and 11 council members
[2:33:09]
so that works out to about four
[2:33:11]
commissions per council member Glendo
[2:33:13]
has 13 City commissions so that would be
[2:33:15]
two or three commissions per council
[2:33:17]
member this would improve the flow of
[2:33:19]
information between commissions and the
[2:33:20]
City Council in both directions while
[2:33:22]
also lifting pressure from City staff
[2:33:25]
this is why I have no problem increasing
[2:33:26]
council member salaries because I plan
[2:33:28]
to make you all work for it also yes
[2:33:31]
committee should act as a body for
[2:33:33]
mediation or arbitration I spent many
[2:33:35]
many hours in this chamber listening to
[2:33:37]
design review board cases which mostly
[2:33:40]
boil down to private disputes between
[2:33:42]
homeowners tenant landlord issues
[2:33:44]
deserve at least as much a time
[2:33:46]
considering that we're the majority of
[2:33:48]
the city thank you thank you Herbert
[2:34:01]
Milano uh mayor bran members of the city
[2:34:04]
council and staff my name is Herbert
[2:34:06]
mulano I took the liberty of writing up
[2:34:09]
some of the topics that I wanted to
[2:34:10]
address today the
[2:34:13]
um the city has had a resource that is
[2:34:17]
quite valuable I think and that resource
[2:34:20]
is the Cog of all of the tenant and
[2:34:25]
landlord questions and complaints that
[2:34:28]
uh have been prevalent in the past few
[2:34:31]
years so apparently this year we've had
[2:34:33]
about 800 of these particular
[2:34:35]
calls
[2:34:37]
and I am concerned that that particular
[2:34:41]
log was not included as part of the
[2:34:43]
dialogue that was presented to the
[2:34:46]
committee if we are if we really want to
[2:34:49]
address the issues that are relevant and
[2:34:52]
present to a lot of people those call
[2:34:54]
logs should have been parsed categorized
[2:34:58]
presented in summary evaluated and say
[2:35:01]
here are the most Salient problems that
[2:35:03]
we have in glenvill these are the most
[2:35:06]
common questions that people have and
[2:35:08]
they become a guide for you to Define
[2:35:11]
how should you do the Outreach how
[2:35:13]
should you advertise it who really needs
[2:35:16]
the information who absolutely needs to
[2:35:18]
have
[2:35:19]
it so if there is a purchase of a new
[2:35:23]
building and the prior landlord wants to
[2:35:26]
increase
[2:35:28]
rents those tenants need to have that
[2:35:30]
information right away as to what are
[2:35:32]
their
[2:35:34]
rights if a new landlord thinks that the
[2:35:37]
law allows him to do certain things and
[2:35:40]
the law doesn't he needs to be clear on
[2:35:42]
what those questions are if a tenant is
[2:35:45]
being given an increase that is beyond
[2:35:47]
what the law allows they should have
[2:35:49]
that information so any type of Outreach
[2:35:51]
needs to address that
[2:35:54]
data how many are there what are the
[2:35:57]
number of problems that this other
[2:35:59]
services provide if Neighborhood Legal
[2:36:02]
Services is collecting the data and
[2:36:04]
servicing people shouldn't you have that
[2:36:06]
data as well so my point is that proper
[2:36:10]
data collection proper data analysis
[2:36:12]
gives you the guidelines as to what
[2:36:16]
policies to implement and how to
[2:36:17]
implement
[2:36:19]
them I'm of the belief that a periodic
[2:36:23]
evaluation of those results how many
[2:36:26]
calls you're
[2:36:27]
getting um how many compl do you have
[2:36:30]
relative to from one year to the next
[2:36:32]
gives you an evaluation of whether the
[2:36:34]
ordinance is working or not and whether
[2:36:36]
the Outreach is working or not and if it
[2:36:38]
is I'm assuming that the cost will be
[2:36:41]
reduced by the following year right the
[2:36:43]
fewer contentious problems you have and
[2:36:45]
any information that an utsman would
[2:36:47]
actually execute would also need to be
[2:36:49]
analyzed so my recommendation is that it
[2:36:51]
be brought back to the ARA committee for
[2:36:54]
evaluation as to how to establish proper
[2:36:57]
ways of evaluating the data and periodic
[2:36:59]
reviews thank you thank
[2:37:03]
you um Mr
[2:37:14]
mohill good evening council members my
[2:37:17]
name is Mike mohill I'd like to First
[2:37:19]
acknowledge Mr Herbert Milano and Karen
[2:37:22]
qua for the research and the time they
[2:37:24]
spent on this issue I know one person is
[2:37:27]
a landlord and the other person is a
[2:37:29]
tenant great
[2:37:31]
team I'm neither
[2:37:35]
okay but what caught my eye was when the
[2:37:37]
mayor says we need more Outreach there's
[2:37:40]
people don't have any knowledge what's
[2:37:41]
going on in the city on these
[2:37:44]
issues survey one survey said they had
[2:37:47]
600 people filled out the other one her
[2:37:49]
survey was 800 I think and you said wow
[2:37:52]
that's a lot of
[2:37:53]
people
[2:37:55]
really think about it in my last
[2:37:59]
Community newsletter I put an
[2:38:01]
announcement that keep our kids home on
[2:38:03]
August the
[2:38:04]
25th and it went to about
[2:38:07]
25,000 inboxes for people to read with
[2:38:11]
about 50% viewership
[2:38:14]
minimum now that's an
[2:38:18]
Outreach you saw on the TV thousands of
[2:38:21]
people were out there protesting keeping
[2:38:24]
their kids home and so
[2:38:27]
forth your uh Rock Haven sanitarium here
[2:38:31]
locally has put an ad in my newsletter
[2:38:33]
announcement I put it in no charge the
[2:38:37]
American Legion has put announcements in
[2:38:39]
my newsletter no
[2:38:43]
charge and fentel crisis
[2:38:47]
a woman contacted me about a meeting and
[2:38:49]
I put it in your Glendo Community
[2:38:53]
newsletter your Glenda Community
[2:38:55]
newsletter folks is free it cost the
[2:38:59]
residents of go and the city council
[2:39:02]
zero do it's a free
[2:39:06]
service why don't you take advantage of
[2:39:10]
it doesn't cost
[2:39:13]
anything we need to get input on these
[2:39:16]
different surveys when again when the
[2:39:18]
mayor says well we need more knowledge
[2:39:19]
of the
[2:39:21]
information well maybe if you gave it
[2:39:23]
out to more people they would respond to
[2:39:25]
your
[2:39:26]
surveys again look what happened last
[2:39:29]
week on the 25th of August when he had
[2:39:31]
thousands of people stay
[2:39:34]
home thank you very much oh by the way
[2:39:38]
MJ mohill gmail.com um is my email
[2:39:41]
address to sent and ask for yeah one
[2:39:43]
thing I I want to um caution you on is
[2:39:46]
that you should speak on the agenda item
[2:39:48]
and not give promotions for your
[2:39:50]
newsletter that's not what the agenda
[2:39:52]
item is
[2:39:54]
about okay do we have we have no callers
[2:39:58]
mayor please sit down your that's your
[2:40:01]
opinion um okay let's see let's hear
[2:40:05]
from you want colle I have a couple
[2:40:08]
questions um uh what are the most common
[2:40:12]
issues that we receive phone calls
[2:40:15]
concern
[2:40:16]
I actually have the numbers I'll put
[2:40:17]
them on screen
[2:40:20]
um
[2:40:22]
presentation well it depends on the year
[2:40:25]
so in 2019 when the program first
[2:40:27]
started MH most of our calls were about
[2:40:30]
the program what what is it what's going
[2:40:32]
to happen how is this going to impact my
[2:40:34]
property how is this going to impact my
[2:40:36]
rental um let's get there here we go
[2:40:40]
good so 2019 92% of those calls were
[2:40:43]
General general rental rights related
[2:40:45]
and and then towards the end ab1 1482
[2:40:47]
passed so we had a couple of questions
[2:40:49]
about that 1% and we had some eviction
[2:40:51]
calls about evictions moving into 2020
[2:40:55]
the pandemic hit and 85% of our calls
[2:40:58]
were just coid related so that's all we
[2:41:00]
were handling Co related and then here
[2:41:02]
and there ab-1482 evictions and then in
[2:41:07]
2021 again still pandemic 77 77% of the
[2:41:11]
calls were coid related but we started
[2:41:14]
getting more a148 2 as you know pandemic
[2:41:17]
rules were starting to expire 2022
[2:41:19]
finally when most of the rules expired
[2:41:23]
uh we still had a lot of calls related
[2:41:24]
to co about
[2:41:26]
28% uh and then uh there was a big jump
[2:41:29]
in ab1 1482 obviously because none of
[2:41:32]
the co protections were there anymore so
[2:41:34]
tenants were looking for ab-1482
[2:41:36]
protections landlord were asking how
[2:41:38]
much we can increase R uh there was a
[2:41:40]
little bit of a jump in eviction calls
[2:41:43]
and other types of calls most recently
[2:41:45]
ly and this is based on the 600 number
[2:41:48]
so a number from a couple weeks ago
[2:41:50]
we're receiving calls about general
[2:41:52]
rental rights program uh rent
[2:41:54]
increases banking relocation things like
[2:41:57]
that Co calls have almost disappeared
[2:42:00]
cuz all the protections are gone no
[2:42:02]
one's calling about that anymore a1482
[2:42:05]
we still get some calls on but I think
[2:42:07]
people understand the ordinance now so
[2:42:09]
they don't they don't call us as much
[2:42:11]
about that 18% of calls have been
[2:42:13]
eviction related so we've seen a bump
[2:42:15]
that and then 34% in another category
[2:42:19]
the other category basically covers
[2:42:21]
things like you call complain about mold
[2:42:23]
security
[2:42:25]
deposits
[2:42:26]
um my landlord doesn't let me have a dog
[2:42:30]
so all kinds of other subjects but these
[2:42:33]
are the types of calls we've been
[2:42:35]
getting
[2:42:37]
U there you and what's the last line the
[2:42:39]
last line is the last line is just uh
[2:42:41]
total so basically we've had 29% of
[2:42:44]
total calls have been uh general rental
[2:42:47]
rights related 47% of calls have been Co
[2:42:50]
related 10% AB 1482 this is total ohal
[2:42:53]
you averaged you averaged I I got you
[2:42:55]
total from uh for that topic so
[2:42:58]
basically 47% of all calls we've
[2:43:01]
received have been Co related which is a
[2:43:03]
big chunk So Co had a big impact on the
[2:43:05]
program as it did the rest of the world
[2:43:09]
but but these numbers are are um the
[2:43:12]
program that we have right now in place
[2:43:15]
the Ral rights program right it's based
[2:43:17]
on our call log so originally call log
[2:43:19]
was just designed to for internal use
[2:43:22]
for staff to be able to track calls and
[2:43:24]
make sure that we returned calls if
[2:43:27]
somebody calls back and says I called a
[2:43:28]
week ago we can see that we responded to
[2:43:31]
them whatnot uh as time went on and as
[2:43:34]
more and more people wanted access to
[2:43:36]
the data we started collecting more
[2:43:38]
information just to be able to extract
[2:43:41]
something from it and I think this year
[2:43:43]
is where we have the most information
[2:43:45]
information previous years we weren't
[2:43:47]
collecting detailed information so
[2:43:49]
eviction says 18% and you're just seeing
[2:43:52]
evictions but we're also collecting
[2:43:54]
information on evictions that are
[2:43:55]
related to Major rehab evictions that
[2:43:57]
are related to um owner moveing and we
[2:44:00]
just started so we don't have a lot of
[2:44:01]
numbers on that but as the year
[2:44:03]
continues we will uh we actually our it
[2:44:07]
Guy created a new program uh to log
[2:44:11]
everything in we were using Excel before
[2:44:13]
and so we weren't able to collect a lot
[2:44:15]
of information and how often does the
[2:44:17]
city attorney's office get involved in
[2:44:19]
these phone calls and questions um I'd
[2:44:22]
say we go to Lucy maybe once a week Lucy
[2:44:24]
varigon the City attorney and then I go
[2:44:26]
to her once a week no I'm
[2:44:29]
kidding that's just a clarify our
[2:44:32]
understanding of things or if there's a
[2:44:33]
we get some complex situations sometimes
[2:44:36]
and we just want a professional attorney
[2:44:38]
opinion before we tell anyone anything
[2:44:41]
okay thank you that's um let me
[2:44:44]
see are the calls have the calls
[2:44:46]
lessened since uh I guess 2019 Les calls
[2:44:50]
so the number of calls these are the
[2:44:52]
number of calls again pandemic obviously
[2:44:55]
we had a lot of calls the calls haven't
[2:44:58]
exactly lessened I'd say the pandemic
[2:45:00]
was just uh more in for 2020 than we've
[2:45:05]
ever had but I'd say
[2:45:08]
we're um we're set to hit about 1,200
[2:45:12]
we're at 800 right now so a couple of
[2:45:15]
months we should probably be at 1,200 if
[2:45:18]
not more and we're able and we're able
[2:45:21]
to handle all those calls we're you're
[2:45:23]
you seem to be yeah and I'm sorry these
[2:45:25]
aren't just calls they're emails as well
[2:45:27]
oh emails and okay thank you that's okay
[2:45:31]
any general comments on Direction on on
[2:45:33]
on the mediation on yeah um well let's
[2:45:36]
see uh let me but you know this there's
[2:45:39]
see seems to be with all of the
[2:45:41]
different um cities being mentioned
[2:45:44]
there's plethora of challenges that go
[2:45:46]
along with this more bureaucracy more
[2:45:49]
staff more
[2:45:50]
funding um landlords you know if it's
[2:45:54]
voluntary you know you get a you have an
[2:45:56]
issue if it's involuntary some landlords
[2:45:59]
won't want to come they don't want to
[2:46:00]
engage and um you know and I I
[2:46:04]
interesting it says the success depends
[2:46:07]
on the cooperation and good faith of
[2:46:09]
landlords and tenants and that's that
[2:46:12]
sometimes I think can be um you know uh
[2:46:14]
uh an issue um the landlords seem to
[2:46:18]
hold the power tenants may feel
[2:46:21]
intimidated and then of course you have
[2:46:23]
the fairness is compromised so um I have
[2:46:26]
my feeling is and I I'll just make this
[2:46:29]
very brief um I also like the um the
[2:46:32]
proposition The Proposal of increased
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penalties except for the one about legal
[2:46:37]
support because that's just way too
[2:46:40]
expensive but increase penalties um so
[2:46:43]
that if a landlord is called on the car
[2:46:45]
carpet for doing so that's a pun but um
[2:46:48]
for you know not complying um or in have
[2:46:53]
inspections so that those folks that
[2:46:55]
that have problems in their in their
[2:46:57]
Apartments um uh those are taken care of
[2:47:01]
that we have um you know uh the ability
[2:47:04]
to conduct inspections and then if
[2:47:07]
nothing happens then impose penalties um
[2:47:10]
but uh I think staff is handling this
[2:47:13]
beautifully the rental rights program
[2:47:15]
you're providing assistance you're
[2:47:17]
providing counseling you're providing
[2:47:19]
legal um Aid and I I just think that
[2:47:23]
that's the way to go I know that Burbank
[2:47:25]
is strictly Outreach and education so
[2:47:28]
they're not very effective um the other
[2:47:31]
ones uh you know Santa Monica is just
[2:47:33]
like way out of way out of you know our
[2:47:37]
financial um category and it's just uh
[2:47:41]
spending a lot of money um so um I I
[2:47:45]
just feel like we really don't need a
[2:47:47]
Medi a mediation a commission a
[2:47:50]
committee you know you get all involved
[2:47:52]
in that bureaucracy and and uh then
[2:47:54]
we're in we get into more trouble so I I
[2:47:57]
would be uh against the mediation I
[2:47:59]
think i' go with staff's uh um
[2:48:02]
continuing this program I think it's
[2:48:05]
very effective I think you're doing a
[2:48:06]
great job I know whenever um I have get
[2:48:09]
an email from a resident with a question
[2:48:12]
with a problem I immediately
[2:48:15]
emailed staff and the problem is taken
[2:48:18]
care of almost immediately so um I think
[2:48:21]
that this is uh the best way for us to
[2:48:23]
handle it okay thank you counc
[2:48:31]
batra so um my understanding is from
[2:48:34]
from the last meeting that you are going
[2:48:35]
to go back to the
[2:48:37]
committee um with the items that we
[2:48:39]
discussed from last meeting right I
[2:48:43]
believe the plan was to come back with a
[2:48:45]
Redline version uh we were going to go
[2:48:47]
back to stakeholders um see what their
[2:48:49]
opinions are and then bring it back to
[2:48:51]
the committee I mean I'm sorry the
[2:48:52]
council okay cuz I I my understanding
[2:48:55]
from last meeting was that we had an
[2:48:58]
opportunity for there to be one meet and
[2:49:00]
for us to get a better sense of where
[2:49:02]
the committee stood because there was no
[2:49:04]
like there wasn't closing that Gap with
[2:49:06]
the committee members when I look at
[2:49:08]
this list it it kind of feels the same
[2:49:10]
where like the recommendations are kind
[2:49:13]
of all over the place where it's
[2:49:15]
recommending a hybrid and it's
[2:49:16]
recommending non-mandatory and the whole
[2:49:19]
nine yards so I would like to get a
[2:49:21]
little more clarity from from the
[2:49:23]
committee on that um I would note that
[2:49:27]
um I know you mentioned that we had a
[2:49:29]
program that didn't work for a couple of
[2:49:31]
months I I have an issue with any
[2:49:34]
program that operates for a couple of
[2:49:36]
months because that's not sufficient
[2:49:37]
time for the public to to learn about
[2:49:41]
the programs um availability so if
[2:49:43]
you're going to say you know we'll open
[2:49:45]
this up for six months and see if it's
[2:49:47]
working you know by the time like people
[2:49:50]
actually find out about it it's probably
[2:49:51]
more than six months and so um from the
[2:49:54]
GetGo I feel like that kind of a
[2:49:57]
shortlived um pilot is just setting up
[2:50:01]
the program to fail um I would like to
[2:50:05]
for us to see if we can explore some
[2:50:07]
options with with the county um for a
[2:50:10]
more for formal program I know that uh
[2:50:14]
while our staff has done an incredible
[2:50:16]
job in guiding uh residents um I know
[2:50:19]
that there's been so many occasions
[2:50:21]
where we provide the information and um
[2:50:25]
a lot of these times there's been people
[2:50:27]
with language barriers where I myself
[2:50:30]
feel like I'm just giving you know being
[2:50:31]
given the runaround because the services
[2:50:33]
are just not available for the um
[2:50:37]
renters um and so I I actually hate
[2:50:39]
giving that those phone numbers out
[2:50:41]
knowing that at their probably most
[2:50:43]
stressful time
[2:50:45]
I'm adding additional stress because
[2:50:47]
it's it's hope with possibly no no
[2:50:50]
resolution and support and that's
[2:50:52]
usually for renters right that um also
[2:50:55]
have an issue with getting resources to
[2:50:57]
begin with and so I would be interested
[2:51:00]
in something a little more formal um
[2:51:03]
that helps with that portion um not just
[2:51:06]
the education and the guidance that
[2:51:09]
we're providing now and then just a
[2:51:11]
better feedback from um from the
[2:51:13]
committee members and the stakeholders
[2:51:18]
ERS well I think uh one of the benefits
[2:51:21]
of what we did through the ad hoc
[2:51:23]
committee exercise was bringing
[2:51:25]
landlords and um residents tenants uh
[2:51:29]
together to be able to have these
[2:51:31]
discussions um I didn't watch all the
[2:51:33]
meetings I did watch um a couple of them
[2:51:36]
just parts of it because of time
[2:51:38]
allowances but um I Echo what was said
[2:51:42]
in terms of uh how they were run uh how
[2:51:46]
people interacted and I think that
[2:51:48]
there's something to be said about that
[2:51:50]
process that I think we need to
[2:51:53]
encourage further um I would like to see
[2:51:58]
uh the committee um whether it's the
[2:52:01]
current committee or different
[2:52:03]
iterations of it continue to meet um I
[2:52:06]
don't know if my colleagues have any
[2:52:07]
interest in in making it a more formal
[2:52:10]
committee but I I think that one of the
[2:52:12]
things that's come from it is as you've
[2:52:14]
mentioned that people have a place that
[2:52:16]
they can go to to petition to raise
[2:52:19]
issues to bring ideas forth and for
[2:52:23]
those to be flushed out and discussed um
[2:52:25]
hearing from all
[2:52:28]
sides I think that within this report uh
[2:52:32]
I would have liked to have seen some of
[2:52:34]
the more specifics like the percentages
[2:52:36]
that you gave was good in terms of
[2:52:38]
inquiries I would like to know like how
[2:52:40]
many of those were calls how many of
[2:52:41]
them were emails and you may have that
[2:52:43]
and you can provide that but
[2:52:45]
um there is something to be said for
[2:52:47]
what someone uh who spoke this evening
[2:52:49]
from the audience uh raised which is uh
[2:52:53]
that the information as to what people
[2:52:55]
are bringing up is the issues that we
[2:52:58]
should be addressing now there may be
[2:52:59]
some things that fall through the cracks
[2:53:01]
and hopefully with better advertising
[2:53:03]
people are aware that there is a
[2:53:05]
resource available to them that they can
[2:53:06]
get answers and they'll be able to um
[2:53:10]
contact uh whatever group agency City
[2:53:14]
official to get
[2:53:16]
answers in addition to that there has
[2:53:18]
been uh talk from at least one of the uh
[2:53:22]
committee members and something that
[2:53:25]
I've I've really liked I've I've talked
[2:53:27]
about before the idea of someone who is
[2:53:29]
an ombudsman type role someone who can
[2:53:31]
troubleshoot who can point people to the
[2:53:33]
right resources be they whether in our
[2:53:36]
city can point them to the right
[2:53:38]
sections of the law and uh direct
[2:53:42]
whether it's the landlord or the tenant
[2:53:43]
to where they can get um the best
[2:53:46]
information and looking at the costs of
[2:53:49]
what uh different committees do I think
[2:53:52]
that if you were to just pay one person
[2:53:54]
even if it was someone who could do it
[2:53:56]
part-time um even if they were an hourly
[2:53:58]
if it wasn't a fully loaded full-time
[2:54:00]
employee of the city at first to see how
[2:54:02]
it would work I think that we would reap
[2:54:05]
the benefits of it as well as the
[2:54:07]
residents and the business owners and uh
[2:54:10]
landlords and tenants so um those are my
[2:54:13]
general thoughts on it um I would like
[2:54:17]
us to see more advertising multilingual
[2:54:20]
advertising using all the um methods
[2:54:23]
that were already stated available to us
[2:54:26]
and also there is uh something I think
[2:54:28]
to be said to see if glendel can adopt
[2:54:31]
uh and modify um ab1
[2:54:34]
1482 uh with special features I think
[2:54:37]
that's important the more we can
[2:54:38]
simplify things I think the better it is
[2:54:40]
for all parties involved so those are my
[2:54:43]
general thought thank you thank you
[2:54:45]
thank you so um I'll start off with uh
[2:54:48]
you know thanking the landlord tenant
[2:54:50]
commission and I see there's one member
[2:54:52]
of the landlord tenant commission there
[2:54:53]
in the back te Marshon who I understand
[2:54:56]
was one of the most active and and uh
[2:54:59]
productive members of the commission so
[2:55:02]
um so thank you and thanks to all the
[2:55:05]
members of the commission um if they're
[2:55:07]
listening or not and to staff because
[2:55:10]
this has been this is complicated and um
[2:55:14]
you've done a great job I think in
[2:55:15]
summarizing the work that came out of
[2:55:17]
that so hats off to you um on this
[2:55:21]
particular topic um I'm also not in
[2:55:25]
favor of setting up a formal mediation
[2:55:30]
body um I think it it is kind of
[2:55:33]
unnecessary bureaucracy and I think it
[2:55:35]
could just lead to um uh overly lengthy
[2:55:40]
resolution times um when when issues
[2:55:43]
come forward I would much rather rather
[2:55:44]
see us uh and I'm and I'm glad to see
[2:55:47]
that Mr Milano had it on the sheet that
[2:55:48]
he handed out I think he's right um beef
[2:55:52]
up the um the hotline um maybe we need
[2:55:57]
um
[2:55:59]
uh maybe we need some some help there
[2:56:02]
and maybe we we we link it to this idea
[2:56:05]
of an ombudsman because that's another
[2:56:07]
idea that I really think is great so I
[2:56:08]
think the idea is like instead of having
[2:56:11]
you know this formal commission uh that
[2:56:13]
that kind of mediates disputes have um a
[2:56:18]
connection between the hotline and
[2:56:21]
somebody an ombudsman or maybe we have a
[2:56:24]
panel of ombudsmen that that can handle
[2:56:27]
cases depending on when they're
[2:56:28]
available but have them go and um and
[2:56:32]
make calls just an informal process but
[2:56:35]
um as Mr Milano explained to me in a
[2:56:37]
meeting yesterday um you know lots of
[2:56:40]
times they're just misunderstandings you
[2:56:42]
know the um and and um if you could just
[2:56:46]
talk to both sides you know you can if
[2:56:49]
you have the right person doing it you
[2:56:50]
could talk sense and resolve some of
[2:56:52]
these issues maybe about something
[2:56:53]
that's needs to be repaired or what
[2:56:56]
whatever it might be right so I I I
[2:56:59]
would like to see something like that
[2:57:01]
the other thing I would like to see us
[2:57:02]
do is um consider funding some more
[2:57:08]
dedicated legal services for both
[2:57:10]
tenants and landlords because we know
[2:57:12]
you know Neighborhood Legal Services is
[2:57:14]
backed up housing rights Center is
[2:57:15]
backed up Armenian Bar Association I
[2:57:18]
don't know as much about how their you
[2:57:20]
know what their workload looks like but
[2:57:22]
especially if you're going to be doing
[2:57:23]
all this marketing and people are going
[2:57:25]
to learn more about the program they're
[2:57:26]
going to learn more about the hotline
[2:57:28]
and they're going to start calling in we
[2:57:29]
want to be able to send them somewhere
[2:57:31]
you know we've got an if we have like an
[2:57:34]
ombudsman that's great but I think that
[2:57:37]
udman also needs um to be able to refer
[2:57:41]
something to you know somebody who can
[2:57:43]
provide more serious legal advice so
[2:57:45]
I've heard of cities doing this I forget
[2:57:47]
the city but they've basically financed
[2:57:50]
you know like a like a dedicated person
[2:57:52]
or a certain number of hours from one of
[2:57:54]
these legal service organizations to be
[2:57:57]
like even sitting at a city facility
[2:58:00]
like available to come in and and get
[2:58:03]
those services so that we can make sure
[2:58:05]
that anybody that needs you know free or
[2:58:08]
lowcost legal service gets it right so
[2:58:12]
that's that's kind of where where I'd
[2:58:14]
like to see us end up um and before I
[2:58:17]
conclude I I I do want to go back um
[2:58:19]
because we've probably all been getting
[2:58:21]
these emails but I know I've gotten a
[2:58:22]
bunch of emails about you know why is
[2:58:25]
Council doing this why is Council doing
[2:58:27]
that and I and or why is Staff
[2:58:29]
recommending XYZ and I I just kind of
[2:58:31]
want to clear it um staff and is not
[2:58:35]
recommending a vacancy tax and Council
[2:58:39]
does not seem as far as I can tell
[2:58:41]
interested in pursuing a vacancy tax
[2:58:44]
staff is not recommending a rent
[2:58:46]
registry and although yes I brought it
[2:58:48]
up years ago um but at the moment I mean
[2:58:52]
I don't think there's anybody here on
[2:58:53]
this Das that's recommending a rent
[2:58:55]
registry uh and I've also heard people
[2:58:57]
say well we don't need more rent control
[2:58:58]
I don't think anybody here is talking
[2:59:00]
about more rent control what we're
[2:59:02]
talking about is streamlining the
[2:59:04]
program that we have in light of what
[2:59:06]
we've learned over the years and in
[2:59:08]
light of ab1
[2:59:09]
1482 which has its own provisions and we
[2:59:12]
when we should do a better job of
[2:59:14]
um you know dovetailing our rental
[2:59:17]
rights program with ab-1482 and just
[2:59:19]
simplifying things as um council member
[2:59:21]
kasak I think said and I heard it
[2:59:23]
elsewhere just simplify simplify
[2:59:25]
simplify so um you know especially on
[2:59:29]
that to you know um the formula that we
[2:59:32]
have for relocation assistance if
[2:59:33]
somebody raises rent more than 7% you
[2:59:36]
know really simplify that maybe just a
[2:59:38]
flat amount irregardless of the type of
[2:59:41]
property the income of the person the
[2:59:43]
length of the just just keep it really
[2:59:45]
simple so that people understand what
[2:59:48]
this program is about that's really what
[2:59:51]
what we want to do and and uh I just
[2:59:53]
want to kind of make sure people
[2:59:55]
understand that that's our intent um so
[2:59:58]
that's basically what I have to say I
[3:00:01]
actually like you know based on your
[3:00:03]
comments um and council member kakin
[3:00:08]
um i' I felt like the uh the city staff
[3:00:12]
already kind of Tak takes that role on
[3:00:15]
of both guiding and providing resources
[3:00:19]
so if if I'm misunderstanding what the
[3:00:22]
role of that additional person would be
[3:00:24]
if you if you may explain it to so I
[3:00:26]
think that there are issues that are
[3:00:28]
sometimes more complicated outside the
[3:00:30]
scope of what the housing staff alone
[3:00:32]
can do you'll have um landlords who you
[3:00:36]
know are longtime landlords have had a
[3:00:38]
property for a while all of a sudden
[3:00:41]
they have to um do something that uh
[3:00:45]
state law mandates or something that the
[3:00:48]
city requires or just provide something
[3:00:50]
for a tenant they don't know where to go
[3:00:53]
right they don't know which department
[3:00:55]
in the city to apply to I'm not a
[3:00:57]
landlord but I can tell you uh when we
[3:00:59]
had to replace our dishwasher I learned
[3:01:02]
that in the city of Glendale if you want
[3:01:03]
to replace a dishwasher you need a
[3:01:05]
permit and there's a whole permit
[3:01:07]
process that requires you to go online
[3:01:09]
and if you're not computer savvy you're
[3:01:11]
an older senior person or perhaps
[3:01:14]
challenged in the tech world you know
[3:01:16]
good luck uh navigating It For the First
[3:01:18]
Time The Answer Ombudsman you can have a
[3:01:21]
tenant as uh I've had who has a special
[3:01:24]
needs uh child um all of a sudden they
[3:01:28]
are uh falling behind on either rent or
[3:01:31]
they're in between jobs or something
[3:01:33]
happens in regards to a child whose
[3:01:35]
special needs they may not need a tenant
[3:01:38]
landlord mediation or questions that the
[3:01:40]
housing staff can provide but an nsman
[3:01:42]
can connect them to different different
[3:01:43]
Social Service organizations and
[3:01:46]
nonprofits that can help them uh make it
[3:01:49]
from point A to point B from one month
[3:01:51]
to the next with minimal impact on on
[3:01:53]
their lives and stress answer is
[3:01:55]
Ombudsman so I think that when we say an
[3:01:58]
ombudsman it's I think of it a little
[3:02:00]
bit like the I've always said the James
[3:02:01]
Garner character in that movie The Great
[3:02:03]
Escape the guy who could get you
[3:02:05]
anything the guy who could get you
[3:02:07]
chocolate or could get you a whiskey in
[3:02:09]
a in a World War II p camp someone who
[3:02:11]
knows where to go to get the answers um
[3:02:15]
because a lot of times when you're
[3:02:17]
stressed as you stated and you're
[3:02:19]
looking for answers um you're confused
[3:02:21]
as to where to go but someone who's
[3:02:23]
trained or understands the city and the
[3:02:25]
different organizations can help point
[3:02:27]
you in the right direction yeah and I
[3:02:29]
would I would just like to add to that
[3:02:31]
that you know this idea of an ombudsman
[3:02:33]
it is similar to what staff is doing
[3:02:35]
right now but I think that
[3:02:37]
um I think I think we need more and
[3:02:41]
especially if we're going to be
[3:02:42]
promoting this program we're going to be
[3:02:43]
getting more people calling into the
[3:02:45]
hotline I don't think we're going to
[3:02:46]
have the resources to do it you know I
[3:02:48]
also know it's it's a special skill and
[3:02:51]
not taking you know wanting to take away
[3:02:54]
from from seon and his group but it's a
[3:02:56]
special skill I had a a situation and uh
[3:02:59]
teal in the back knows all about it
[3:03:01]
because she helped me out with it but
[3:03:03]
somebody that came to my coffees a
[3:03:04]
couple times with a problem with rats in
[3:03:07]
her unit and she had to move out and she
[3:03:10]
was in a hotel and she you know or she
[3:03:12]
was at whatever she was anyway and I
[3:03:14]
know she called in and um she did get
[3:03:17]
some help but I think she was referred
[3:03:19]
to you know you know I don't know LA
[3:03:22]
County sanitation or she was referred
[3:03:25]
here and there but her English was not
[3:03:27]
good she didn't have the wherewithal to
[3:03:29]
figure this out she really needs
[3:03:30]
somebody who can do more than what staff
[3:03:32]
can do can really hold her hand and take
[3:03:35]
office yeah but they're not going to do
[3:03:36]
that they don't have the resources to
[3:03:38]
really hold somebody's hand through all
[3:03:41]
the phone calls that have to be made all
[3:03:42]
the followup that has to be made so I I
[3:03:44]
do think having somebody from the
[3:03:46]
outside just enhances that service and I
[3:03:49]
don't think it's that expensive to do so
[3:03:52]
that's I think that's what that's at
[3:03:54]
least what's on my mind so I would well
[3:03:56]
my question is what kind of training
[3:03:58]
would they need what do we have to train
[3:04:00]
them or do they have to learn our yeah
[3:04:02]
there's I mean
[3:04:03]
what's probably yeah well isn't that
[3:04:07]
what kind of what Lucy does I mean
[3:04:09]
she staff those that you're working with
[3:04:12]
so staff does their best to connect any
[3:04:15]
caller to the resources they need and if
[3:04:17]
it's within the city I think we do a
[3:04:18]
pretty good job of it if it's outside of
[3:04:20]
the city we might refer to the
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organization we're not going to go hunt
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down an individual that they need to
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speak to we'll refer them to the or
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organization but if it needs to be that
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detailed where you're holding the hand
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walking them to that agency making sure
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they get the need the help they need I I
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we don't do that at the moment but we do
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the best within the city yeah that's
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good
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idea say something more yeah uh so I
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would be open to that um I would also
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like to see kind of the structure we
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could work with the city attorney's
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office uh on this where there is a
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specific
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designated attorney um that the public
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knows about it's not that they're
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calling you and then you're internally
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or we're rerouting that um I think
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looking at the city attorney's office
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and like how we've kind of built up
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capacity over the years uh there might
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be room for that as well in there yeah
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if I could I could address that I think
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so one of the challenges uh with our
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office is we we cannot provide legal
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advice to third parties we we can we
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obviously provide um interpret you know
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we will interpret our own code for
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public when when there's a dispute for
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example um we also obviously were
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involved in the enforcement of the law
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but a lot of these disputes are a a
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private dispute between a landlord and
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tenant so we cannot be we can't advise
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them on landlord tenant law um and and
[3:05:45]
that's really not the even the goal of
[3:05:46]
the rental rights program is to provide
[3:05:48]
the resources explain how our rental
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rights program works to the public how
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the what the interaction is with 1482
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because there is so much interaction but
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at the end of the day we we always have
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to advise them to to seek another
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resource if they still have questions so
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that's sort of the challenge with um I
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mean we certainly work with the staff if
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there's if there's a desire to have this
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un buds un buds person to kind of work
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with the staff on figure out how
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mechanically it works but our our role
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has to be limited we are limited by the
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charter to not providing advice to to
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members of the public or providing them
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legal assistance on private disputes
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which in large regard that's what
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landlord tenant is right it's it's a
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dispute between two parties in in a
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business transaction I I I I would say
[3:06:29]
that I'm not looking for the the private
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disputes um I think if more folks in our
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community knew that they could turn to
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the city to to get clarification on the
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law and that the city attorney's office
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is available I want them to know that
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that that is actually available and that
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is part of the role right absolutely
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okay okay um do you have enough
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Direction I think we have enough
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Direction okay just I think the staff
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needs the approval of the the marketing
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strategy that's a motion approval of the
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marketing strategy so oh okay I'll
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second okay so we'll have a roll call on
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that thank you council members do other
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yes Divine yes kakan yes Naran mayor
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botman yes thank you what's next please
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next is oral Communications discussion
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is limited to items not a part of this
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agenda each speaker is allowed five
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minutes Council May question or respond
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to the speaker but there will be no
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debate or decision the city manager May
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refer the matter to the appropriate
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department for investigation and report
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we have uh five speak speaker cards for
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oral communication okay anybody on the
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phones
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okay okay and I'm going to start and
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then I'm going to run to the bathroom
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and
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hopefully something drastic won't happen
[3:08:01]
okay I tried to stop ARX an
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onion you are first for oral
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Communications
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hello everyone um I just wanted to hit a
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couple points um I submitted I took my
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time over the weekend it was actually
[3:08:28]
pretty fun working on the maps um it was
[3:08:31]
almost like a puzzle uh especially with
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the colors and all that stuff so I came
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up with map 1125 I think it was uploaded
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yesterday or something um and I just
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wanted to it was pretty I mean I didn't
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see any Maps out there currently that
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included like a separate region um for
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well I saw a couple that included a
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separate region for Central Glendale um
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I think they have they're going to be
[3:08:56]
growing obviously over time and then
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they have their they're going to have
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their own very unique needs um in the
[3:09:03]
downtown area um and then yeah so that
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and then um I was walking on AR Avenue
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and I think there might be a project
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about this I was looking it up on the
[3:09:14]
website but definitely those like tables
[3:09:17]
and chairs do not seem comfortable and
[3:09:19]
then my friend was telling me that
[3:09:21]
apparently they get chained up at night
[3:09:24]
which is so unsightly and not really
[3:09:27]
like the vibe for downtown glendel but
[3:09:30]
I'm assuming that's going to be included
[3:09:31]
in the I think it's called activate art
[3:09:34]
I don't know if that's still happening
[3:09:36]
but um and then my third point was just
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about uh apparently there's a dog park
[3:09:41]
being proposed for for brand park I got
[3:09:44]
an email from The Tea House at that
[3:09:47]
they're not interested in that and I
[3:09:50]
completely agree I think that's not is
[3:09:53]
that is that happening is that
[3:09:56]
stud huh no I don't want to speak on
[3:09:59]
something that is has already been
[3:10:01]
addressed in previous meetings but
[3:10:04]
anyways yeah I don't think a dog park
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belongs in brand Park it's just also
[3:10:09]
like not the vibe of that area but
[3:10:11]
anyway those are my thoughts for today
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thank
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you thank you uh vah
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Moran hello council members I was here
[3:10:37]
in this room at the last council meeting
[3:10:40]
because I had gone through all the
[3:10:41]
possible departments I could regarding
[3:10:44]
some false accusations in court filed by
[3:10:47]
the city attorney's office one of those
[3:10:49]
departments even being the police
[3:10:51]
department where I made a police report
[3:10:53]
thinking I had rights because it does
[3:10:55]
involve a crime police closed it without
[3:10:58]
ever reaching out and ignored the entire
[3:11:00]
probably half an hour report I made and
[3:11:02]
all the documents I submitted so my only
[3:11:05]
other option was to come here and bring
[3:11:07]
it to your attention for it to be looked
[3:11:09]
into
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respectfully I don't think I did a good
[3:11:13]
enough job last time because it never
[3:11:16]
was since August 8th so I'm here to try
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again you have an employee named mahik
[3:11:22]
safarian who decided to call the police
[3:11:25]
making false accusations against me when
[3:11:27]
I came to the city towards the end of
[3:11:29]
2022 about a fraudulent lease issue
[3:11:32]
since 2005 for the property I live on he
[3:11:36]
then somehow convinced the city
[3:11:37]
attorney's office with those same
[3:11:39]
accusations into filing a restraining
[3:11:42]
order on on his behalf for free i'
[3:11:44]
assume one which was denied for lack of
[3:11:47]
evidence the restraining order does
[3:11:49]
actually mention how mahik is possibly
[3:11:52]
applying for it behalf of other
[3:11:54]
employees as well but none are mentioned
[3:11:57]
I would have absolutely no problem and I
[3:11:59]
really do mean this no problem with his
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poor lies even his restraining order
[3:12:05]
that was denied resulting in my favor if
[3:12:07]
it didn't lead to the third lawsuit for
[3:12:10]
my family one day after that is not the
[3:12:12]
first time law I
[3:12:14]
was that's not the first time I was
[3:12:16]
served with a lawsuit because of a city
[3:12:18]
employee I'm not making any specific
[3:12:21]
accusations here but with respectfully
[3:12:23]
asking the city to once again look into
[3:12:27]
this matter because it is all being used
[3:12:29]
against me in courts it doesn't matter
[3:12:31]
if I don't have it doesn't matter if I
[3:12:33]
have a lawyer or not I ask the words
[3:12:35]
filed in court by the city attorney's
[3:12:37]
office to be discussed was but was
[3:12:40]
turned away there's no shame in the
[3:12:42]
applying for something and having it the
[3:12:44]
night there's no resolution for me on
[3:12:46]
his lies so I made a police report about
[3:12:49]
a possible felony charge under the
[3:12:51]
penalty of perjury and how that
[3:12:53]
unfortunately has to do with the third
[3:12:55]
lawsuit I was served in 8 months I was
[3:12:57]
turned away again last time I said 9
[3:13:00]
months but I was wrong it's actually
[3:13:02]
three lawsuits I've been served in 8
[3:13:04]
months and 9 days that is actually
[3:13:06]
prohibited prohibited according to
[3:13:08]
chapter 9 of the municipal code I
[3:13:11]
wouldn't be here today if the city and
[3:13:13]
the appropriate departments did their
[3:13:15]
jobs and this is coming from a former
[3:13:17]
employee of almost 7 years please look
[3:13:20]
into this
[3:13:22]
matter thank
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you um obviously I don't know anything
[3:13:28]
about this issue but um I will ask for a
[3:13:32]
offline uh briefing so I can learn more
[3:13:35]
about it all right thank Youk you have a
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great
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night okay um
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Milano mayor brodman members of the city
[3:13:54]
council my name is Herbert
[3:13:56]
Milano I want to bring up some comments
[3:13:58]
that I brought in the past uh but I'll
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start it with a um with a comment that
[3:14:04]
is very common at least in the circles
[3:14:06]
that I'm in and is that people tend to
[3:14:09]
see the world from the steeple of their
[3:14:11]
Village Church
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and when I look at the problems that I'm
[3:14:16]
generally facing Glendale or the issues
[3:14:18]
that have come aware of I see it from
[3:14:21]
the point of view of a systems analyst
[3:14:23]
and my Decades of work in dealing with
[3:14:27]
providing information to organizations
[3:14:30]
organizations that often times were over
[3:14:32]
a billion dollars a
[3:14:34]
year and for many years I have been
[3:14:37]
promoting the idea that the city should
[3:14:40]
collect information analyze the
[3:14:42]
information
[3:14:43]
create strategic plans and work towards
[3:14:45]
a strategic
[3:14:46]
plan and today was in some of the issues
[3:14:49]
that we had earlier it's precisely the
[3:14:52]
type of issues that would be much easier
[3:14:54]
to solve if you had the data analyz
[3:14:59]
collected and
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evaluated with a continual recurrence of
[3:15:04]
an evaluation that takes place on an
[3:15:06]
annual
[3:15:08]
basis every time you get a software
[3:15:10]
update what you're really getting is the
[3:15:13]
series of problems that have been
[3:15:14]
corrected through
[3:15:17]
experience and you know at the local
[3:15:20]
level county level state level often
[3:15:22]
times ordinances are passed and then
[3:15:25]
they just left to basically have an
[3:15:28]
impact for a very long time until the
[3:15:30]
problems get to be so severe that you
[3:15:32]
begin to have the protest and the people
[3:15:34]
complaining and you get the impact of
[3:15:36]
that but if the ordinances and the laws
[3:15:40]
that are being considered are evaluated
[3:15:42]
and the data collected and updated and
[3:15:45]
adjusted to meet what the data is
[3:15:47]
telling you I would imagine that we
[3:15:50]
would have a much easier time with
[3:15:52]
running a city and living in a city the
[3:15:55]
data that I usually brought back in the
[3:15:56]
past that is really really simple has to
[3:15:59]
do with road
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conditions a road on average in the
[3:16:04]
United
[3:16:06]
States has about a 20-year
[3:16:09]
life so if you take the 360 miles of
[3:16:12]
roadway of London divided by 20 you have
[3:16:15]
already an idea of how much you should
[3:16:16]
be re reconstructing on a yearly basis
[3:16:20]
simple and then you count basically how
[3:16:22]
many miles of roads were actually
[3:16:24]
reconstructed every
[3:16:27]
year the other issues that I find that
[3:16:30]
need data collection if the city were to
[3:16:33]
collect it in a systematic way and if
[3:16:35]
the city council were to have some type
[3:16:38]
of retreat where you consider where is
[3:16:40]
it that we're going where are we now
[3:16:43]
what did we accomplish allows you to
[3:16:45]
gauge the efficacy of the city manager
[3:16:48]
or the efficacy of the City attorney the
[3:16:50]
efficacy of the rest of the commissions
[3:16:52]
that you have before you it's an appeal
[3:16:55]
for this that I think that the problems
[3:16:58]
that we generally face are solvable
[3:17:00]
they're not that
[3:17:02]
insurmountable especially when we have
[3:17:04]
the data that is telling us not
[3:17:07]
anecdotes not the Impressions not the
[3:17:10]
hearsay not the rumors
[3:17:12]
because we as humans are very faulty in
[3:17:16]
regard to the way we think about issues
[3:17:18]
if we put somebody in a committee and
[3:17:21]
all they come to you are The Impressions
[3:17:23]
that they have from Friends the things
[3:17:25]
that they can remember we have a
[3:17:27]
significant list of biases that prevent
[3:17:31]
us from thinking
[3:17:32]
clearly and the one thing we can depend
[3:17:35]
on is the data if I tell someone you
[3:17:38]
know that the data tells us that if you
[3:17:40]
smoke on a regular basis or two packs a
[3:17:43]
day your chances of dying is X by the
[3:17:45]
age of 60 but if he tells me well my
[3:17:49]
grandmother lived into 102 and she was
[3:17:52]
this two pack smoker and gives you an
[3:17:55]
anecdote and that's what carries the day
[3:17:58]
an anecdote carries a significant amount
[3:18:00]
of weight when it comes to all kinds of
[3:18:03]
decision making but then we have to rely
[3:18:05]
on the data to basically set us straight
[3:18:08]
and that's what I'm asking the city
[3:18:09]
council to do collect the dat
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analyze it set policy on it because when
[3:18:16]
people come to you with their
[3:18:17]
Impressions and their feelings and their
[3:18:19]
emotions and what they can recall and
[3:18:21]
they're here say you may wind up
[3:18:24]
creating bad policy and that's really
[3:18:27]
really bad for all of us I would
[3:18:29]
appreciate that thanks thank you Mike
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barsov good evening council members uh
[3:18:38]
I'm going to be talking uh talking on
[3:18:40]
the topic of housing um I believe I
[3:18:42]
emailed all of you about a few weeks ago
[3:18:44]
on this issue but I'm just here to talk
[3:18:46]
about it in person today some of these
[3:18:48]
policies do need environmental review
[3:18:50]
some of them don't some have been
[3:18:52]
instituted by cities like San Diego or
[3:18:55]
uh some cities in the east coast um but
[3:18:59]
this is just a rundown of our Arena
[3:19:01]
goals uh we have still thousands more
[3:19:04]
housing units to accomplish uh to
[3:19:06]
complete by the end of the decade and at
[3:19:09]
current Pace we're kind of decent but
[3:19:11]
we're not very and we could also make
[3:19:13]
extra money uh with a new housing policy
[3:19:16]
so these are just some policy positions
[3:19:18]
that you could advocate for to City
[3:19:19]
staff or just research so the first one
[3:19:21]
is reducing or Banning parking minimums
[3:19:24]
the second one is increasing the far
[3:19:25]
which is floor area ratio of
[3:19:27]
construction allow our greater lot size
[3:19:29]
usage allow greater discretionary
[3:19:31]
density bonus units reone glendle to
[3:19:34]
allow to Transit oriented development
[3:19:36]
specifically along Transit corridors of
[3:19:38]
bus lines with a frequency of 50 minutes
[3:19:39]
or better and around train stations
[3:19:42]
upzone Glen corridors and regions to
[3:19:44]
r1250 and
[3:19:45]
r2250 which is medium to high density
[3:19:48]
and just high density and allow more
[3:19:50]
mixed huse development on residential
[3:19:52]
only zones and allow residential zones
[3:19:54]
and Commercial only zones so essentially
[3:19:56]
when cities Implement these policies you
[3:19:58]
increase social cohesion walkability all
[3:20:00]
that good stuff that we need to reduce
[3:20:01]
our vehicle miles traveled to reduce our
[3:20:03]
emissions but we also increase the
[3:20:05]
housing stock we cool the housing market
[3:20:07]
we also create good money for the city
[3:20:09]
uh there's a lot of research on this uh
[3:20:11]
when we build trans oriented development
[3:20:12]
when we build mixed use development when
[3:20:14]
we build high with density more people
[3:20:16]
come into the city they provide
[3:20:18]
businesses provide more uh services and
[3:20:21]
vice versa sales tax goes up more people
[3:20:23]
spending money in the city is just good
[3:20:25]
for everyone and so if you want to get
[3:20:26]
ahead of our Arena goals and even
[3:20:28]
surpass them to be known as a city that
[3:20:31]
pass its housing goals with affordable
[3:20:33]
housing especially we could achieve that
[3:20:36]
in the city of glendle cuz we're already
[3:20:37]
kind of walkable I don't own a car I
[3:20:40]
take the bus usually I wish I could buy
[3:20:42]
every I don't know how to bike yet but
[3:20:43]
when we build more housing on corridors
[3:20:46]
we promote things like walkability and
[3:20:49]
having more Transit oriented development
[3:20:51]
and having more businesses be on the
[3:20:53]
first floor so people can see their
[3:20:55]
businesses and walk into the businesses
[3:20:56]
rather than zooming past them 50 mil per
[3:20:58]
hour so those are just some options on
[3:21:01]
how we can solve the housing crisis that
[3:21:02]
we currently have and I'll forward this
[3:21:04]
email to you guys again so you have like
[3:21:05]
the list of policies thank you thank you
[3:21:08]
and and by the way the email you sent I
[3:21:11]
did share with M with Mr Calbert and I
[3:21:14]
did respond to you right yes you and
[3:21:17]
Paul Divine did thank you okay but I
[3:21:19]
mean the point is that we are thinking
[3:21:20]
about all of these
[3:21:22]
things those things are already in the
[3:21:25]
works in the works and Mike you and I
[3:21:27]
are going to learn how to ride a bike
[3:21:28]
together thank you hopefully I see a
[3:21:31]
tandem bike in your future we're doing
[3:21:33]
this thank you Mr Cal for
[3:21:36]
Council okay uh Linda
[3:21:40]
new
[3:21:47]
mayor and council members thank you I'm
[3:21:50]
here today just to remind you that a lot
[3:21:53]
of the work that you are doing is just
[3:21:58]
um tacking around the edges of a problem
[3:22:02]
and the problem that we have in Glendale
[3:22:05]
among the residents is that rents are
[3:22:07]
too high and that people believe and
[3:22:11]
that it's their right to um treat
[3:22:14]
tenants like little um little toys or
[3:22:19]
dots to be moved around in other words
[3:22:22]
if you look at the grace the grace and
[3:22:24]
management company that is in charge of
[3:22:27]
the onx you will see that they have
[3:22:30]
raised the rents a lot this year um only
[3:22:35]
up to the amount of course that they
[3:22:37]
were legally um able to do that but they
[3:22:40]
are forcing those tenants in the onx to
[3:22:43]
move out just like Mom and Pops in
[3:22:47]
Glendale are forcing people to move out
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it's people want to stay in Glendale
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they want to keep their home and they
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can't
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so that's an ongoing
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problem
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um here uh I do I wanted to say thank
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you very much for working um and
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considering the um ad hoc um tenant
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landord committee the idea of an udman
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is a good one I think um we need a
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community leas on who uh somebody who
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can have boots on the ground and really
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get out and um be one with the people
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and and help people I know that because
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those are some of the things that I do
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in the Glendale tenis Union I know we we
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spend hundreds of Y hours working with
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people
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you know um getting um every imagin
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imaginary thing you can think of that a
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tenant has to go through when they are
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being forced to move or when they want
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to fight the move they do call the city
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sometimes sometimes they don't sometimes
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they just call us but they call the city
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and a and and a phone call isn't going
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to get them where they need to be so
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they need more than that we know that
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that's why we end up spending hundreds
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of hours working with them um one idea
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that I that Mr Milano had that I
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appreciate and is that he said you know
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um get the facts whatever but um I say
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on top of that is go to the city um
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agencies who are dealing with those
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people who are having hardships and meet
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with them regularly or have them report
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to you regularly when I call the
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Armenian Relief Society they tell me the
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same thing I'm telling them r are too
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high our people are struggling it's
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crazy so this isn't new this is and you
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are not new this is not new to Glendale
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every Community around the US is dealing
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with this so I this is going to stay on
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the burner you're going to keep thinking
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about it but hopefully you know we'll be
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able to make some
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progress these little steps we're taking
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are important but they're not the whole
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answer thank you thank you and we have
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somebody on the
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phone yes we have one
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caller I didn't get
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okay did you put I didn't get one not
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for oral communication I didn't get
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one yeah take the phone
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yeah our one caller is
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nures uh tatin Sayan n say you're on air
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you have uh five minutes go
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ahead hi everyone my name is merus
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penan and I was calling I was very
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concerned about um the coyotes there's a
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lot of like
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coyotes in and around the kenet Village
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area and then also I've noticed they're
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coming down almost all the way to Glenn
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Glen Oak like between Glenwood and GL
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and um you know last night I was like
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walking someone to their car and it was
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literally like right there and then a
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couple of times this month and then
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three or four times while walking at
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night so it's um it's pretty concerning
[3:26:21]
and I don't understand like what the
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issue is I've always seen coyotes but
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I've never seen them imp pass and all
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the way down to like almost where glenox
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is like by gleno and Western like almost
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all the way down to like that
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area and also in the Island area like by
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between Glen uh
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W and alen and gleno and
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alen yeah okay yeah um I think we're all
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seeing a
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sharp uptick in in
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coyotes um it's a bigger question what
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we can do about it but that chase one
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yesterday at night Road runers feed them
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don't feed them anvils yeah
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okay um Mr
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mohill good evening council members my
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name is Mike
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mohill mayor Dan bran at the June 6 2023
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council meeting you charged you changed
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a three minute portion of oral
[3:27:38]
communication on purpose back to to the
[3:27:41]
end of council business so you don't
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have to hear early in the evening your
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Council
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critics as a result throughout the city
[3:27:51]
you are nicknamed the dictator of
[3:27:54]
Glendale in the old days the liberal
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Democratic party cherish freedom of
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speech but today you and your so-called
[3:28:02]
Progressive liberal Democrats throughout
[3:28:05]
the nation do not cherish freedom of
[3:28:08]
speech you moved to gleno about 7 years
[3:28:11]
ago and you are turning glendel upside
[3:28:14]
down with your woke
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agenda you are polarizing the
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city is it true mayor Dan bman that you
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have two biological Sons today are
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transgender
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women is it
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true that your former wife from China
[3:28:37]
became a transgender
[3:28:39]
man wow mayor Dan brotman you have been
[3:28:43]
all over social media and any criticism
[3:28:47]
you receive your three minions Mike
[3:28:50]
Allen Bert culer and car sgio Sergio who
[3:28:56]
has transgender children
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herself are there to defend your woke
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ideas is it true Mar Brockman that you
[3:29:06]
are in communication with queer nation
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and other so-called Progressive liberal
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organizations do not put in the same
[3:29:16]
basket and assume that all gays and
[3:29:18]
lesbian support the transgender drag
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queen
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agenda mayor brotman for the record are
[3:29:28]
you proud that the transgender drag
[3:29:30]
queen have hijacked the gay and lesbian
[3:29:33]
movement setting it back 100
[3:29:37]
years are you
[3:29:39]
proud mared Dan Brockman do you support
[3:29:43]
transgender women competing in with
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biological women's in bi excuse me and
[3:29:51]
sports mayor Brockman is it true you
[3:29:54]
meet with the Glendo School Board
[3:29:57]
officials at least once or twice a month
[3:30:00]
to discuss the transgender drag queen
[3:30:04]
agenda mayor Dan bman do you and your
[3:30:07]
so-called Progressive liberal Democrat
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support the following ass family and
[3:30:11]
state bills that want to reduce parental
[3:30:16]
rights state senator Anthony portino
[3:30:19]
Senate Bill 596 silencing parental Free
[3:30:25]
Speech assembly Bill 95 cender
[3:30:29]
957 gender affirmation in child custody
[3:30:35]
disputes assembly Bill
[3:30:38]
1078 State control over local school
[3:30:43]
boards assembly Bill five Training
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teachers to profile non
[3:30:50]
lgbtq plus affirming
[3:30:54]
parents the so-called Progressive
[3:30:56]
liberal Democrat State Assembly woman La
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Freeman and state and state senator
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Anthony
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portino both support the transgender
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drag queen
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agendas council members do you support
[3:31:11]
transgender activist mayor Dan Brockman
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and his
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agenda it is clear the left hates the
[3:31:21]
right more than they love America thank
[3:31:26]
you you okay we have another card Alan
[3:31:36]
Durham mayor Brockman members of the
[3:31:39]
council I had not planned to speak
[3:31:42]
um during oral Communications but uh I
[3:31:47]
had to say you know we all know what's
[3:31:51]
going on with the Glend Del school board
[3:31:53]
and the Unified School District and all
[3:31:56]
the
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political activism that's been stirred
[3:32:01]
up and the emotions that have been
[3:32:03]
stirred up but I really don't like you
[3:32:06]
know this is the city council that's the
[3:32:09]
school board I really don't like to
[3:32:14]
see the people the activist who are
[3:32:20]
protesting the school board's actions
[3:32:22]
and decisions I hate to see that creep
[3:32:25]
into city council city council meeting
[3:32:28]
City Council Members I mean I may be
[3:32:31]
wrong it just doesn't seem appropriate
[3:32:32]
to me it's two different bodies and I
[3:32:35]
don't really care what the views of an
[3:32:38]
individual council member are
[3:32:41]
and to me it's just you know it's not
[3:32:45]
relevant to me what I look for is their
[3:32:48]
judgment and their decision-making
[3:32:50]
ability so this is just my reaction to
[3:32:54]
what was said before thank you thank you
[3:32:58]
okay so next is new business yes new
[3:33:02]
business and I believe that we do
[3:33:05]
have
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two one one yes so I move that uh the
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City attorney being and hereby is
[3:33:13]
authorized to resolve the lawsuit
[3:33:15]
entitled Helen sedi versus city of
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Glendale Los Angeles Superior Court case
[3:33:20]
number 20 STC V
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34372 in exchange for a full release of
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all claims in the amount of
[3:33:28]
$75,000 the settlement is not an
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admission of any liability whatsoever
[3:33:33]
for any wrongdoing with respect to the
[3:33:35]
plane if by defendant or by any person
[3:33:37]
or department but is the com compromise
[3:33:39]
of a dis Beed
[3:33:42]
claim a second second can roll call
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please council members Zan yes Divine
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yes kakan yes Naran mayor bman yes and
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adjournment move to adjourn second we
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are adjourned at 9:32 p.m. thank
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you
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