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Vice Mayor Butler.
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I'm here.
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I'm Mr. LaZero.
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Mr. LaZero.
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I'm Mr. Lima-Tob.
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City manager, Dr. Earl.
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Attorney Marino.
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President, Madam Mayor, you have a call.
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Thank you so much, Madam Clerk.
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Before we rise for the pledge of allegiance, I'd like to conduct a moment of silent prayer.
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For those that have been suffering with COVID and have lost loved ones, a special care goes
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out to them, as well as all our first responders, our staff and all our frontline workers
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that have been working through COVID.
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It's hard to believe it's been a year, but we still have a while to go.
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So, remember to take care of one another and during these struggling times in our country,
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We need to remain compassionate and peaceful to our fellow brothers and sisters.
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A moment of silence, prayer, please.
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Thank you.
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Vice Mayor, would you like to start us off in the pledge, please?
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Sure.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
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And to the Republic, which has changed one nation under God.
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in the visible,
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with liberty and justice for all.
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Hey, order of business.
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I do have one or two requests this evening.
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My resolution, which will hopefully
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become our resolution and regards
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to solicit and mushrooms and decriminalization.
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I'd like to move that up after the presentations
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and regular public participation, would anybody have an objection to so doing?
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Now, and I know there was also interest in the letter that's being sponsored by Commissioner Lazaro.
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I like to also move that up in the agenda right after this other resolution.
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Actually, I would ask that we not do that only because I have people that are scheduled to speak and they're not available until later
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Okay, thanks
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All right, I'm gonna move that I eat them up
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Do I have a second?
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That's right, I'm sorry could I throw a call through this and I would say them this is a sub and I don't know this so I
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Item 8c yeah
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I'm sorry, who made the motion?
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I did.
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I did.
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In the second.
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Annabelle.
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Thank you, madam.
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Thank you.
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Commissioner.
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Have you yet?
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Yes.
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Commissioner.
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Have you yet?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Commissioner.
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Let's have.
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Yeah.
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Vancouver.
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Yes.
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Vice Mayor Butler.
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Commissioner Lazarum.
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Well, thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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Okay public participation. I believe we have a speaker this evening. On your behalf city clerk Jim Bushman will be announcing the speaker that's joined us this evening.
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Thank you Madam Mayor Mr. Bushman.
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Madam clerk this speaker this evening is Marcos Payne.
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Thank you.
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Good evening.
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My name is Mr. Payne. I'm a hall and they'll be president.
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Well, I wanted to talk to you this evening briefly.
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I want to take up much of your time, mostly it's just about the environment.
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I see you have a resolution coming up later.
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Whereas you're going to authorize certain agencies, the county state,
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Army Corps of Engineers, to move forward with beef replenishment
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without doing the studies on the coral reefs,
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to make sure that it's appropriate to do so.
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I would ask that you think about that give it a second thought, and that you actually, when we first went to do beach replenishment here in Florida, it was always under the condition that we would do the appropriate environmental impact studies.
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I understand that it could be a financial issue. However, I think the environment's a little bit...
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No more important. And I would like to see that we do the proper environmental studies to make sure
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that the quarries are negatively affected. Currently our quarries are under a lot of stress. We've
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been doing a lot of meetings, mostly virtual, like it's been going on. But I think we've all
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come to the same conclusion that the quarries really can't take any more stress.
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So again, I'm just asking that before you authorize a resolution that allows people to move
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forward and encourage that without the appropriate studies that you give it a second thought
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and rewrite that.
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I'd actually like to see a rewritten where we go like we did in the old days, and that's
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not too long ago, and I actually re-write it to say that we won't do any beach replacement
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management without doing the appropriate environmental studies to make sure that the
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coral reefs are not negatively affected. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hannah. Thank you for
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taking the time out during COVID to come out and greet us with your and share your
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concerns. I would like to at least comment, I think this is going to be the fourth
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beat tree nourishment programs that I've gone through as it liked that officially, and I know there's concerns, I know in the past they did the studies, I know about coral reefs actually one of my daughter's friends actually has been doing the studies for years and actually working with FIU and Miami to address growth and monitoring.
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I want my looking and making sure that we include that monitoring is done.
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I know they've done that before in the past.
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They've had diving teams go out, but I certainly don't want to delay this project or
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delay the resolutions.
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So I share your concerns, but as in the past we've continued to do it.
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I think contributing to the actual global warming and the sea level, temperature rise has also
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led to its hand to impacts of the coral reefs so thank you and I don't know if anybody else's hand
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It is up to make any comment.
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My name is I am.
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Oh, hi.
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OK, I committed to having Anna.
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Thank you.
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Yes, just really briefly.
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I believe Mr. Pena's is talking about item 12c later
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on the agenda of the state legislative package.
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And so it's on item where we are asking the, well,
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it's not something that we're authorizing.
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It's just the legislation and things
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that we want to lobbyists to work on.
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And he's talking about under page two title
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energy environment and natural resources where we would support hard-borrowed monitoring and mitigation
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and related to beef treatment. So hard-borrowed is coral and we need to protect our coral reefs at
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all costs. We passed a lot of legislation on this in the last couple years and that was actually
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an amendment I was going to recommend later on at the meeting that we remove this portion.
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Just because this portion is solely included because of the cost savings that they believe
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goes along with the the county saving money on beach reinforcement rather than a long-term
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sustainability of our of our coasts. So I mean we can discuss it later on when we get to this
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item to 12C but that was just an amendment I was going to make to the legislative package.
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Okay thank you. Okay thank you Mr. Panna. Okay we are going to move on to where is my resolution under
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Okay,
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item 18C or resolution of the City Commission of the City of Halendale Beach Florida,
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supporting Florida House bill for 549 authorizing and regulating the medical use of
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psilocybin as an effective and safe treatment for mental health conditions and providing
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for an effective date. As you know, Dustin Robinson, Attorney Dustin Robinson, I should say, had
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approached us months ago on this issue. And certainly, I think we are all little bit surprised,
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but I know the way our society is looking to talk, you know, really treating patients and people with
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TST and other psychological disabilities with old new cutting edge techniques.
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All of the technology and medications that actually come from the earth. So I myself, over the past years, have evolved to understand that mother nature provided us with a lot of good things.
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And I certainly encourage our commission to support this resolution. I know it's up in Tallahassee. And I believe we do have a speaker signed up on this item.
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Correct.
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Met a mayor. I want to get a I want to receive e-commerce for it. Okay. All right. Well, I know that he is doing his thing, whether it's local or in in Tallahassee. So I'm going to move, remove myself from the chair.
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Commission of Vice Mayor, you're in control now, but I would like to move the adoption
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of this resolution.
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Second.
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Second.
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Second.
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Okay.
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Any other hands for it?
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Nope.
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Okay.
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Could I have a roll call?
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Five-layer, but there.
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Oh, I think your mic's off, kiddo.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Commissioner Lazarum.
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Yes.
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Mary Cooper. Yeah. I'm sure have you got her. Yes. Thank you. So, Michelle have you got her? Yes. I don't know. I haven't heard of you at all. Yes.
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More big Harris by zero. Thank you so much. And, um, do we have in queue, Dr. Neil Furman?
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Yes. Madam Mayor, bring him up now.
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All right,
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I did have some sitting here,
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hold on just one minute,
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I'm going to
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hand it to me, there is my gear left up, I think I'd be a blue folder, bring my gear
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left up, that's a proclamation, where to go? Oh boy, you know what, I'm going to turn
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it over you for the introduction, and while you look for it, I sure has a copy of it,
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There is a sign copy of it here.
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So there is, but this was sponsored by Commissioner Taub and as a point of the chair, I'll give a privilege to let her make the introduction.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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I don't feed Dr. Ferman, but hopefully you don't.
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I just wanted to give you a recognition by half of all the commissioners and the mayor.
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for your work specifically with Helen Dell Residence, related to COVID, because of
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hip-hop, I can't disclose who the residents are, but you have gone above and beyond to
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help more than a handful of residents that were sick with COVID, a couple of them that
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and really critical condition, your bedside manner is incredible, you have been an advocate
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for them, and I don't know that they would be around and back to almost full mobilization
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and quality of life if it wasn't for your care.
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It was pretty to your care, and how wonderful you've been
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with them and their families, so be happy with myself.
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May are you, may are we, would you like to say if you think?
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Where are you?
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Well, you need to read the name.
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Good evening, again, Dr. Furman.
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The certificate is presented to you
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an appreciation of your efforts and dedication. I'm sorry. What? Not having good technology today. Why is this?
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Go in and do a close up, I think. You know, wonderful. There you go. Now I can't see it. But
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for all your work and dedication to the efforts that encourage you, senior patients during COVID-19
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pandemic. It's unbelievable the unprecedented nature of this pandemic and how
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and city as it is. I know I speak with for many people listening that have
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seen the ravages and have been impacted and have been ill. And this is
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It is nothing to joke about, everyone should understand, to continue, to help you, help.
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We'll have a patient and help one another to wear masks and follow the rules. We are still in this fight. We're probably looking at still going into hopefully July.
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We are the we majority of people can get the vaccine, but I want to turn it over to you to say a few words. And again, commend you and all the staff of our hospitals and I see you.
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Thank you.
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Well, thank you, Mayor Cooper.
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Thank you, Commissioner.
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The Mattel and all the other commissioners for this great honor.
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I want to thank all my colleagues, especially the nurses, the tests of how medics and all
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those are the frontline workers who deserve recognition as well.
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I'm hopefully with the new vaccines and new treatments.
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We can continue to see a decrease in the number of chances and quickly get back to a normal way of life.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Dr. Farman.
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Hopefully we'll be able to meet in person in a couple of shows.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Dr. Farman.
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Thank you.
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On behalf of the city and the residents and your patients.
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God bless you.
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Thank you again.
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Thank you.
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Thanks.
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Next I don't have a pity of me.
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And the next item is item seven.
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It's a approval of draft minutes.
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I'm not going to read the whole list,
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but there's a page of them a couple of months.
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Could I have a motion?
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You have a motion here.
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What do I have?
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I have a second.
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Could I have a roll call, please?
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Which, do you have Yena?
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Yes.
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Which, really, my top?
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May I open?
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Yes.
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Which, for a laser?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Are you done?
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Eight.
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Consent agenda?
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I'd like to pull A if I may.
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Pull A.
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And I'll make a motion to approve the rule.
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I'm going to let somebody else wants to pull something.
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I'm going to pull A if I may.
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What else?
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I'm putting forward a house where we did that already,
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I'm on the budget performance.
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You can just unread you in my notes from earlier today.
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Thank you, everything is good.
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Yep.
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Thank you.
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I have a motion.
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Do I have this second?
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Thank you.
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Could I have a roll call please?
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Madam Mary's is for clarification.
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We're also pulling out of eight fees since it was already discussed.
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Right.
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Commissioner Limitop.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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Okay.
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I will read into the record.
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A resolution of the mayor and the city commission of the city of Helen Dale Beach, Florida.
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The expressing its support of the Broward County audit of the animal care and adoption division report.
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Number 21-05, dated December 16, 2020, providing for its support of the implementation of guidelines and best practices by the animal care and adoption division with the goal of providing better care for the dogs and cats maintained at this shelter.
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and this is providing for a fact of date.
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This is sponsored by Commissioner Michelle Lazarus,
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and I will turn her over for the presentation
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and discussion.
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Thank you.
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It's really not a discussion as much as it is a statement
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that I've been involved with the county shelter
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and volunteering and involved with the activists
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for almost a decade.
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I've watched numerous directors come and go.
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I was one of the people who helped to get Thomas to dare out for breaking the law and changing public records, which he was the OIG had begun in investigation,
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so rather than go through that, he skipped town, rightly so.
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So when Laura Lye comes, was hired, I was in full support and shortly thereafter a year into the hiring of Laura Lye, the activists and advocates who were for free every single day were coming to the county and saying the conditions are deplorable, please help us.
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and the county did nothing and much of this falling on the shoulders of birth
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a Henry. It wasn't until Mark Vogen finally sent somebody in under cover
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one of his friends, women who had a history of shelter.
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Work, in county facilities, other places, and he she went in under cover, and she came back and told Commissioner Bogun, at that time, Mayor Bogun, out the disgusting, it wasn't there.
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And as a result of that, he or as for this audit, which was approved by the commission.
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And if you happen to read any of the 288 page document, it's really sickening, animals being left in the dark for 17 hours a day.
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Cats had encroaches that are too small, medical attention that is not happening that needs to 35.
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They're short 35 employees.
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The conditions were deplorable.
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And I know that at some point over the last couple of years while Laura Lai was in charge,
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we as the city gave a certificate of some kind of recommendation, which I knew at that time
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that we shouldn't be doing, but I went along to get along, which is why votes have consequences.
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So this is first started, this resolution was started by the mayor of Millsboro Beach.
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I asked that we support the same preso and I'm going to ask that the city clerk makes
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sure to please send that to all of the Broward County cities and I would really like to
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see all of our cities get behind this and make sure this 208 page audit is not just
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shelved like so many of the others and with that I'll make a motion to approve and let
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someone else has something that I'd like to say.
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But I have a second. I have a second. I would just like to include in this letter in this when we
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send it out. If you would make an amendment to send a letter to Commissioner Mark Bowen and thank
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him for his efforts on behalf of our city. So if that is fine, you accept that as an amendment.
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I do. Everybody seconder. I take great. Okay, could I have a roll call, please.
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Best
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How are we going to?
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Commissioner Nazareth.
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I'm going to turn it over.
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Yes.
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Mayor Cooper.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Commissioner.
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A resolution on B.
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A resolution of the City Commission of the City of Helen Del Beach Florida.
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Reaffirming the City's commitment to first amendments rights.
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Reaffirming that the first amendment projects.
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And guarantees the constitutional rate of all Americans to peacefully protest and requesting that law enforcement treat all protesters, the same regardless of race, sexual orientation, religious, police, or nationality, authorizing and directing the city clerk to transmit a copy of this resolution to the appropriate officials and providing for an effect of dates.
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I pull this out item because I do want to speak not against the First Amendment rights,
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reaffirming them, or the protections guaranteed to everyone, regardless of race, sexual orientation,
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religious beliefs, or nationally, nationality, however, I take objection to including that law
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enforcement, treat all protesters to the scene. I do not agree. It doesn't
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record you flex to what our police department does. And so regretfully, I will
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be voting against this resolution.
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If there is not a motion to approve, we can
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move on. I'm not going to move the motion.
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I have the hand.
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I'm kind of as my hand.
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I need to listen.
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I'm a talk with her.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Commissioner.
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Talk.
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You're recognized.
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I'm sure you can.
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Commissioner.
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I'm sorry.
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You're actually.
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You're actually.
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Thank you.
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I.
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Well, I think this is a worthy resolution.
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I think that.
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including law enforcement, points, the fingers at the law enforcement as if they are not
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already doing this and in my humble opinion, I believe that law enforcement officers
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across the nation have been very respectful, but I don't want there's been verbal assault
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of how Nail Beach PD for several years and I don't want our law enforcement officers to
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I feel as if we got again, we are...
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Our maligning them in any way, I think that the language of this resolution can be misconstrued as doing just that.
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So I will encourage the sponsor of this resolution to remove the portion of law enforcement.
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They are not the ovars that they are being met out to be and I think this type of language
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frankly puts our law enforcement officers in more dangerous than they already are.
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So that'll be it for me.
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Commissioner Lazaro, I don't see your hand up, but I know you're trying to get it out.
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I took it down.
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I was just going to make the motion to approve.
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So again,
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I I I I encourage you to remove the reference to law enforcement so maybe we could support it
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But if that is not the emotion could I have a roll-coff, please
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Commissioner have a Anna. Yes, I will not vote. Yes, I will not. That's a note for me. Very cool crew. Now
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Commissioner Lazarus
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Yes.
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Yes.
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What's the carries three two?
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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And we'll talk to you in a minute.
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Let's keep.
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Ordinance is nine A.
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And I know that's going to be heard in conjunction with nine B.
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And I do have a script to flow around here for a moment, just a minute.
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Because this is quasi-judicial.
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Okay.
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We will be now hearing a request for conditional use permit application from the Hallendale Beach Community
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Redevelopment Agency. Is this the rescript for this item?
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No, Madam Mayor. The quasi item 118.
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So you're good.
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All right.
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An ordinance of the mayor and the city commission is City Hallendale Beach Florida implementing the Hallendale Beach
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of our zoning districts amending
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the Hallendale Beach Regulating Plan to include the Hallendale
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Beach Boulevard West and the Hallendale Beach Boulevard East, Subtrifts Districts, adopting
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zoning regulations in chapter 32, zoning and land development codes by amending Article
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3, zoning division 3, creating subdivision 2, the Hallendale Beach Boulevard District,
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creating Hallendale Beach Boulevard West Sub District and the Hallendale Beach Boulevard
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each sub-district standards.
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A Mending Chapter 32, Zoning and Land Development Code, Article 3, Division 3, Form-Basoning, District
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Section 32194, Configuration of Building, Section 32201, Central Rock, Frontage, Standard,
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Section 32202, Central Rock, Civic, Open, Space, and Section 32-203, Central Rock, Parking,
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and others.
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Amending article?
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Yes.
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Is that an eye or correct?
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We have a one.
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It is a one.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, City Attorney.
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Section 32-A definitions providing for conflict, providing for codification, providing for
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survivability and providing for an effective date.
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This is the first reading and it's brought forth by staff from development services.
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It's in conjunction with item B and awareness and mayor and the city commission of
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city of Halendale Beach, Florida,
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amending city of Halendale Beach,
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zoning map by removing business general BG,
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and central city business CCV,
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zoning districts, and the planned
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redevelopment overlay RDO districts
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from the lands within Halendale Beach,
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Boulevard, zoning district.
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That's mouthful, hold on.
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Certain parcels are adjacent to Halendale Beach,
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Boulevard located within the boundaries
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of the General Commercial Land Use Category of the Comprehensive Plans Future Land Use Map to the
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Hall and Dale Beach Boulevard Zoning District, providing for conflict, providing for codification,
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providing for serveability and providing for an effective date. This, too, is also
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a first reading, and I will turn it over to our city manager for the presentations.
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Thank you very much, Madam Mayor. I'm a Commissioner of Speed, and so this is really a project
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that has been years and making other creation of these owning districts as close as
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I think back in 2016, 2017, when the new meetings that were held to go over form-based code, zoning guidelines.
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This is obviously meant to also help with the appearance along how they'll be as full of art in the area.
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Make things more pedestrian-friendly, et cetera. So I'm going to ask our director of development services, Vanessa.
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to come and give the presentation off of this item.
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Vanessa.
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Thank you, City Manager.
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Good evening, Mayor.
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Vice Mayor, City Commission, and members of the public.
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I will be making the presentation today tonight for the Hondo Beach Boulevard
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Co-adminment and the rezoning.
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We can go to the next slide.
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All right.
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So tonight what you will have in front of you are two
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resolution, two ordinances as the mayor's bed.
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One is to rezone to a form-based code and the other one is to amend our zoning map which would apply the districts that the code amendments would introduce.
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I will also be speaking on some design guidelines, those are adopted by Resolution.
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They are not on tonight for an action but I will provide some information about what is included in the design guidelines.
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that resolution would come back on second reading of the ordinances for adoption.
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We can go to the next.
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All right.
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As far as what is being rezoned, we are creating two different zoning districts.
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West Houndel Beach Boulevard and East Houndel Beach Boulevard.
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Those were looked at based off of the land sizes, neighboring zoning and land juices.
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all taken into account. We can go to the next a little bit of background. This
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this again has been a long time in the making. We have received the assistance
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of Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council for the drafting of the ordinances.
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And as part of the 2017, we had several instances of public outreach community meetings
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with developers, business owners, the Chamber of Commons, of Commerce, and the residents
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and the area we can go on to the next.
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The item was presented through the City Commission on the First Reading and the with the
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recommendation from the Commission to have a public workshop before a second reading.
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It did take some time as we've had some changes, tighter in administration, or priorities,
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But it did come back for the workshop in 2018 in August.
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We had a joint city commission in planning and zoning board to workshop to explain the proposed changes.
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And we've taken in notes from the public and the other stakeholders that were participating in that workshop.
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In December 2020, as is the process, the item was presented to the planning and zoning board,
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which recommended approval of both ordinances and the design guidelines.
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You can move on to the next.
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All right, to give you an idea.
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Currently, what we have is a used-based code.
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And what we're proposing is more of a form-based code.
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So here what we're doing is we're eliminating these zoning districts that currently exist
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along how they'll be delivered and the overlay district, and we are creating only two zoning
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districts that would have the form-based regulations you can move on to the next.
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Here we have for you essentially an idea of the overall just of why we are bringing this
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item and what the intents and purposes are.
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The proposed ordinances, again, will help with the attractiveness of the corridor along how
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on the El Beach Boulevard.
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It would provide for better mixture of use
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as it is formed based rather than use space,
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and also provide a better environment for pedestrians
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and multi-modal modes of transportation.
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It will also encourage investments from the development community
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by providing a little bit more clarity
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and efficiency and the process for approval.
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As we also have the administrative approval process,
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similar to what we currently have
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the central rack of the regional activity center. Essentially what that is is that as long
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as a project meets all of the base requirements and is not asking for any special
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affordances the project can be approved administratively and essentially again
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Project was looked at the corridor, was looked at based on the sizes of the land and the neighboring properties and it is geared towards protecting the adjacent residential properties and make sure that the uses and the sizes are compatible with the transition and scale for building sizes.
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We can move on to the next.
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Here what you're looking at is what we call the regulating plan.
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For the form-based code, these are all of the properties in
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Elendale, essentially, that have a form-based code.
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We currently have in the middle the Central Regional Activities Center,
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which a commission is already familiar with.
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We're expanding that on to Elendale Beach Boulevard on the east and the west side
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on the Beach Boulevard flanking the Central Regional Activities Center.
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We can move on to the next.
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The code proposes changes to the current allowable uses.
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Again, we've looked at the compatibility of these uses based off of the adjacent neighborhoods.
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And so we have a list of uses that are permitted in each of the east and the west on the Beach Boulevard districts.
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That we have provided here.
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We can go on to the next. Essentially, we have not taken away too much of what we have not taken away from the commercial uses that we're allowed.
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We have just made sure that we've revised it as the code had needed some revision to make sure it was compatible with the area.
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On the west, Heldow Beach Boulevard site, we do have development regulations that are different than what we have from the east.
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The properties on the west side are found to be smaller and lots, therefore, we do have that their own tailored development regulations that are setbacks in heights.
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And here, as we could also see in the code amendment, is a table of the development regulations.
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Essentially, when the development comes in, they will look at what their minimum
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law size would need to be, what their setbacks would need to be.
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We also talk about height and density.
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We have the civic and open space requirements, similar to the Central Regional Activities Center.
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And what's new here with the West Regional Activity Center, sorry, with the West, how
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though, each will have our zoning of district, that we've introduced what we call an incentive
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area.
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And unfortunately, I do not have a Zoom then, but this is a pretty long area that has been
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identified,
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which would encourage more development, so we would allow a lot more entitlements
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on the property of higher height and more flexibility with the development to encourage
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development on the Indian sense of area. I can go into detail but I'm happy to take any questions
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if you do have on any of these subdivisions but to give you an idea, the properties on the west
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how they'll be each bullet guard would be able to go up to eight stories that would be the maximum height in that area, except for the incentive area where it would be allowed to go through 350 feet.
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350 feet is the current height allowed under the plan of redevelopment overlay district which currently exists and we'll be going away for the corridor along Houndel Beach Boulevard.
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There for the property that is zone under the incentive area would be the only properties that would be allowed to go through to that height.
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Speaking of density, we have a base density of 18 million units per acre and a maximum density of 30 units per acre.
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Again, echoing the central regional activity center, a project can mean if a project needs
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the base density, then they can be approved administratively.
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If they have to go anywhere above the height and above the density, maximums, then they
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would have to request for special exceptions, either conditional uses, but regardless, they
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would have to come to commission for approval.
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We can move on into the next.
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So here we are looking at the east,
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found out which boulevard of district regulations.
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For the east side, we did find that the property sizes were a lot larger,
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and again, sustained larger developments.
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Therefore, heights and density
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allowed based on what is being prepared.
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Those are larger than from the west. Speaking of height, the base height, along the east,
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how much of which would be 10 stories. And the maximum height is 25 stories. As far as density,
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the base density would be 18 dwelling units for acre. And the maximum would be 50 dwelling units
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for acre. And all of these are also consistent with our comprehensive plan, which would show
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that we would not need to make any changes to the comprehensive plan. It does not go beyond
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that. We can move on to the next
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along with the building requirements. We have guidelines and
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standards for open spaces, we do require larger pedestrian pathways.
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As you can see here, we have streets to get streetscapes of standards.
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Whereas, for example, on the east side, we would require from the curb to a building,
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a minimum of 20 feet, which would allow ample space for trees, people,
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and
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We can go on to the next.
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The minimum Austrian parking requirements. We did not create a new
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section. This will be the same for the Central Regional Activity Center and the East and West
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Hound of Beach Boulevard of Districts. They are essentially echoing what we had currently
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had under the Central Regional Activity Center for parking requirements. We can go on to the next.
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Now, we're speaking a little bit about the design guidelines.
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The design guidelines are here to provide some sort of guidance to develop or as far as what the city is looking for.
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They are not to be abided by law.
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Essentially, they're not the land codified requirements, their guidelines and the reason why I also there being adopted by resolution.
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But they do provide the guidelines as far as what we would want to see.
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You can move on to the next slide.
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The design guidelines provides for front-hitch standards, front-hitch designs, architectural
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elements, in street-skate information.
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For example, how to reduce curb cuts, provides suggestions and recommendations as to how
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a development would be preferred as presented to the city.
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It encourages for shade and shelter, it encourages canopies, so better environments for what we are aiming for for pedestrian friendly locations.
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We can move on to your next.
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We also look at the building and neighborhood transition.
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So there is a reason why we have a minimum and maximum height that is allowed along local streets.
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For example, which may differ from what it is for primary streets, because it takes into account the transition from a potential very large development that is fronting directly into a low density residential neighborhood. So we wouldn't want to affect the fabric of the residential neighborhood. So we do provide guidelines as to the height in scale for these projects.
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and even the direction of some features such as balconies and doors, windows.
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And parking in access areas also, we provide guidelines so that we can ensure that there is appropriate circulation within developments,
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especially those developments that are proposed on very large lots.
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Next slide please.
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All right, similar again to the Central Regional Activities Center, we encourage and we do require in some instances civic and open spaces.
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And in these areas we do require street furniture, landscaping, seating, signage, and with the setback requirements we do also have provisions that would
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Lent for outdoor seating in cafes, so keeping in mind that the code and design guidelines are intended to create since the space for the Houndel Beach corridor.
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Next slide, please.
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We also have, I spoke about civic and open space. We also opened it up for civic art.
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So we have guidelines for how those can be placed, similar.
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To how we have at the city hall, and we have other courtyards and open space designs and suggestions and design guidelines for developments.
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Next slide, please.
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So again, what we have today are two ordinances for the City Commission's consideration.
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One is the code amendment that would apply to regulations to the east and west, how they'll
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reach full of our zoning of districts that we are introducing.
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And the second is the rezoning of those areas that we have identified for the east and
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west, how they'll reach full of parts of districts.
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We do recommend approval of the proposed changes in that second reading would be scheduled
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hit upon second reading, then you would have the action on the resolution to adopt the design
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guidelines that we've spoken about today. The design guidelines are adopted by resolution,
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and that does conclude my presentation. I'm happy to take any of your questions.
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Thank you very, very much. First of all, I'm glad that this is coming forward. I do have some
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specific questions. If you could go back to a, a, a, a, a, a map of the layouts of the districts. If you would direct really, right.
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Sure.
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The layout of the district. That's fine. That's fine. Just as meant that we're going to reference.
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Pardon me. That that's perfect.
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West Beach Boulevard. Well, no, give me the, the one that we're doing today.
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All right, leave there. West Beach Boulevard. Okay, we had discussed this a while back when we had did the first reading on the federal highway corridors and I am concerned we have that whole warehouse district there and I don't know if there was any discussions to I mean we want a varied
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business type and facilities and housing types throughout the city, but
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during our visioning when we looked at the master plan for the city overall, there
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was some suggestions to actually possibly even hope, oh, I'll grow a hotels in that
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area and kind of morph it out of just the regular warehousing. I don't know if that
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came up in any discussions or considerations.
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And on this district as well, on the north side,
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is there a reason why we didn't go further in on the blocks?
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I know it's built out now, but to expand that area,
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particularly in the north, because it's pretty commercial
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at this point to begin with.
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Yes, there was conversation among staff and fortunately we didn't have that much representation
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from stakeholders in that specific area to provide comments or objections to what was being proposed.
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But we did have conversation among staff about these areas.
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One of the large blocks is already a residential area.
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That's multifamily development that was built with portable housing.
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so that area was not to be touched. And the other blocks there, what we've allowed
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is that if the area would want to be redeveloped, they could always come for a rezoning
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for that. However, we found that it wouldn't fit for what we are proposing at the moment,
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because in the rear of that area is what we have
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called the industrial area, right,
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closing the east and west,
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how they'll reach regulations and uses
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would affect the businesses
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and what is allowed currently there.
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With that.
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I could just reiterate, I think, I think I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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Now it's okay, you understand what you're trying in
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And I'd love to hear from Dr. Earl as well,
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that, you know, yes, we can establish this,
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but if there isn't that land space,
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it's kind of mute.
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So, Dr. Laura, I hit on exactly the theory behind this
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is that you currently have a certain zoning
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that could be looked at as taking away uses
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if we were to expand it.
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But we have created the incentive zone that you mentioned that could be so attractive to somebody.
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That they would want to ask for a rezoning and assemble the parcels. So, right now, we have the incentive zoning
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where Dr. Lower, I talked about up to 350 feet, at the very West End, and some of those warehouses may see that.
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And want to pass the city to rezoning rather than us rezoning than have a claim that we're being fair to them.
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Yeah, I didn't want to exclude it, but I hear you.
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Dr. Earl, I know this is your bellywicked too.
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So, city manager?
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No, I think the mechanism that they haven't raised right now.
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I think it's very good for us to test this out, men and men.
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Form-based codes are something that we use successfully
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and Dana Beach to see the types of development and that Dana Beach has now, and if something
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isn't working, then it can also be tweaked. And I think that's a good thing about them.
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So, you know, I think staff was working very hard on this, and we didn't put this into play,
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and then tweak as we go along to have something that truly reflects how and they'll be.
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Great. Thank you, Dr. Earl. And thank you, Vanessa, and assistant, sitting in the
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chair of the club. The next question,
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there was a carve out between Dixie and federal.
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Was there a reason if you go back to the other side that shows the East District and the West District?
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Is that because it was covered by this central rack?
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Yes, so you're speaking of that zoning map that I showed it. It does do that portion in the middle, but as you can see here, it is colored and these are all of the phone days going properties perfect
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Okay, on first of all, thank you for all your work. I'm in full support of this. It was interesting because I actually intend to remember push to bring form base codes here and realizing that
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that basically developers, and I looked at the comments, particularly the chair of the
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PNC board notice that all this works together, that it allows developers not have to
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go through a six-month process or even at some length, 12-month process or 18-month process
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to get a development approved.
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This combined with the rules and regulations that we've established within this district
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than the other central rack district, combined with the impact parameters that we have.
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I think we're really, finally putting the final piece of the puzzle together to make this
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really desirable.
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So, thank you for your work and it's really great to see it come through fruition and I love
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the process.
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Thank you.
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Do I have any other questions or comments from my colleagues or concerns at this point?
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It is the first reading.
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Shouldn't to approve my hand or what.
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Many of you, sorry.
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Wait, yeah, I just saw it go up.
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Commissioner Lazarale.
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Thank you.
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I do want to thank staff.
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They did an amazing job, not only with this document,
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but also with all the town hall meetings
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and all of the workshops and all of the input from the public.
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I'm not a big fan of form-based codes,
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but on this for this, I will support it.
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Obviously, if there's ever an applicant that does have a problem or an issue or they don't feel
[53:40]
they're getting what they want, they can certainly always appeal to the commission.
[53:45]
So I'm always, that's always my first question. Can they always appeal to the commission?
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And they can, and I think, you know, given the state of our permitting department, and again, no disrespect to our department,
[53:58]
But anything that can streamline some of this permitting, we really need to take advantage of it because it simplifies it for them.
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It makes it easier for the developer to know what they have to do.
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And I think it's a good way to address both of those concerns.
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And again, I want to thank you to the development services.
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I know that Christine, Kristina, Kristina, Kristina, Kristina, Kristina, Kristina, Kristina,
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and Director of the Roy, and Director of the Year's, you know, you guys have put a lot
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of energy in the bump for getting anybody, please go through to name them also Director of
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the Roy. So thank you again for your hard work on this. It'll be a pleasure to support it tonight.
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Just a question on the motion. This is for second reading of the first week in
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I
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believe so.
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It would be for the second week in March. Okay, thank you.
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Make a motion, correct? And did I have a second? Second.
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And I have no hand slur. Could I have a, I'm going to call vote on the first item?
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Yes.
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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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It's a public hearing, so we just need to open it.
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I'm sorry.
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Did we have any speakers signed up to the clerk?
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No, Madam Mayor.
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Are there any speakers in this?
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No.
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There is not.
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So I opened the public hearing.
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A close of public hearing.
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And we had a motion as second.
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And this is for the first resolution.
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Could I have roll call?
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For item 9.
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8.
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Commissioner.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Mr. Lazaro?
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Yes.
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Mayor Cooper?
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Yes.
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Mr. Masonir Butler?
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Yes.
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Mr. Havigana?
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Yes.
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Most of the area is five zero.
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I will also entertain a motion on nine B and set second reading for the second meeting in March.
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Second.
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On motion in a second. Could I have a roll call, please?
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Nice Mayor Butler.
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Yes.
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Amishka Habayana.
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Amishka Lazaro.
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Amishka Limatov.
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Yes.
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Mayor Cooper.
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Yes.
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Hello, she carries five zero.
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Thank you.
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Oh, Commission City Clerk.
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Item 10, ordinance is on second reading.
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Item A, an ordinance in the mayor and the city commission of the city hall and
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of each Florida, amending the city of Hallendale Beach,
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adopted a comprehensive plan to provide for revisions
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and updates of the goals, objectives,
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and impologies related to water supply, planning
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and the section two, the future land use,
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elements, section five, the infrastructure element,
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section seven, conservation element, section nine,
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the capital improvement element, and section 10, the inter-governmental coordination element.
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Adopting by reference, the city of Helen Delvy Beach 10-year water's life, facility work plan,
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providing for a transcendental of the comprehensive plan, amendments pursuant to chapters 163,
[57:42]
Florida's that she's providing for conflict providing for service ability and providing for effect of date.
[57:50]
Again, this is the second reading.
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Do we all open up the public hearing?
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Do we have any speakers signed up?
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No, I don't know.
[57:59]
Madam Mayor, the City Clerk's office has never seen any public participation for this item.
[58:03]
And it was probably advertised.
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as three pass by for such a two 86.
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Thank you very very much.
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I will close the public hearing because there is no one
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across here at the side.
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And I will just kind of Mayor.
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And for this item, we do allow public participation
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through the Zoom link.
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So any of those who wish to,
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on this item, please raise your hand.
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Anyone wishing to speak on this item?
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Again, please raise your hand.
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Madam Mayor, we have no speakers.
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Yeah, I don't see anyone.
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Okay, option two proof. I've a motion and a second from Vice Mayor could I have a roll call please
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Commander have a getter. Yes, originally the top. Yeah, mayor Cooper. Yes, Mr. Lazarus. Yes
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Thanks, Mayor Butler. Yes, I'll be carries Foser. Thank you, and I will we're a little
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Rusty on the is I should have noted that the P&Z did approve this on August 19 with a
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4-0 all-fall and I believe the other one was voted
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Is that the same
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No, all right, they've already done both together as well. Okay. I don't know 11
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Resolutions in public hearing
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Resolution of the mayor and the city commission of the city hall and they'll beach florida, consideration, application, see you dash 20, that's zero, five, five, five, seven, by the hall and they'll beach community redevelopment agency, HPC or
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For a conditionally used as provided by Section 32, that's one, nine, nine, nine, day, two, B of the Allen Del Beach Code of Ordnance in order to construct an interim parking facility in the Central RACFAD subdued at the property located two, of three, northeast, third street.
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As recommended by the City of Administration, providing the effect of date, I'm going to turn it over to staff.
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Is this the quasi-tuditional now?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Get okay.
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You want to help me hearing a request for the conditionally used permit application from the Helen Delvis community redevelopment
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This matter will be treated as quasi-judicial, and there are certain guidelines in which
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much followed during this hearing.
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Did a COVID-19 pandemic, and pursuant to the declared state of emergency, this quasi-judicial
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here being held in part remotely on the digital zoom platform?
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I like to entertain a motion, and this is then quasi-judicial formalities requiring
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physical attendance order presentations and to for for proceedings as a high
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bread no meeting.
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Like motion.
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Motion.
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Oh my gosh.
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I have a motion and as Vice Mayor.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh my gosh.
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I have a question.
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Thanks.
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OK.
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Good.
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Good.
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Good.
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Good.
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Good.
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Thank you, thank you so much, commission and city clerk.
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A resolution of the mayor and the city commission of the city hall and the all beach and I've already read the title.
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I'm going to turn it over to this city attorney, please outline the process and the rules.
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Thank you Madam Mayor, this is a quasi-judicial hearing for the aforementioned item.
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All parties, witnesses, and members of the Commission participate in the most remotely,
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must remain visible on-screen at all times during this hearing.
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Witnesses will be sworn in by the clerk, pursuant to sort of Supreme Court ruling permitting for remote swearing during the COVID state of emergency.
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The public has been provided notice of this hearing and will have an opportunity to comment.
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The Commission must base its decision on the legal criteria outlined in the cover memo.
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The cover memo and other agenda materials are incorporated into the record.
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Your decision must be based on substantial competent evidence.
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So, substantial competent evidence is the evidence a reasonable mind would accept this adequate to support a conclusion.
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The order of the proceedings is as follows.
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The city will present a summary of the request and the applicant will present its case, and then any interested parties will present
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We have no registered interested parties in this matter the commission may ask questions
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When all presentations are concluded the members of the public shall be allowed to speak for three minutes each
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Because we have to follow rules of due process to allow the parties to respond and provide evidence members of the public will not get a second opportunity to speak
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When public hearings are concluded, the city, the applicant and the effective parties will get an opportunity to address the comments and the commission may ask questions to staff the applicant or sworn experts.
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Once all the questions are closed, there can be no further comments from any party.
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The commission will then vote on each item accordingly in this case there's only one item.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. I will now turn it. Oh, well, we have to
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sweety every for the end of we do we need to pull the commission madam mayor. That's man.
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Go ahead. City clerk.
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Madam mayor. Have you had any expertise of communications with the applicants or any
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objector or anyone on this matter? Well, ironically, because we're on the board of directors of the
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in public at the Houndel Beach CRA meeting and it will not impact my decision this evening.
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Thank you, Minimaire.
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Thank you.
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Just as a point of order could we actually put on on the screen because we still have the resolution up.
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There you.
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Madam Clerk, can you further follow a question with the mayor just to get it on the record please?
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Yes, Madam Attorney. Madam Mayor, will your vote today be based only on the information you hear today and not based on any
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expertise communication you have?
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Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I just I just I need to put a point of clarity. We're looking at the screen and because of our
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presentation on the Zoom meeting. Okay, there you go. The other say what I'm saying as long as we're
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present live and on video.
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Yes, as long as you're on video, you're fine. You can adjust your screen
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so that you can reduce the size of the presentation. It's still see people. Okay. Let me see if I can
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through that by fair butler have you had any
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expertise communications without the applicant or any
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objector or anyone on this matter? No I've only spoken with
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staff. Where your book today be based on the information you
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appear today and not based on any expertise communication. Yes it
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will. Thank you Commissioner. Have you had any
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expertise communications without the applicant or any objector or
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anyone on this matter. I've only spoken to city staff. We're both today be based only on the information you're here today
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and not based on any it's particularly communication you had. Yes. Thank you. Commissioner Lazarus or have you had any it's
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particularly communications. We've had the applicant or any object or anyone on this matter.
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No, I have not. Thank you madam.
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Commissioner already my top. Have you had any particularly communication without the applicant or any object or or anyone
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this matter. I was staff. Where you're both today be the only other information you hear today
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and not based on any, it's particularly communication you have. Yes. Thank you.
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Madam Mayor
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Matt proceed with us wearing the applicants. What is this? Please do. Madam Clerk. Thank you.
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Well, all those who intend to testify in this hearing today, please turn on your camera.
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Madam Mayor, is there anyone there supposed to be on camera? We do have a general
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Marcinetti, who is supposed to be representing the African
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Jenna?
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Jenna.
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O-G-E-N.
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That must be it.
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J-E-N-N-A.
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I don't see no Jenna, I only see a Jenna, G-E-N.
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Anyone speaking on this item, can you please raise your hand?
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Attendees?
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It's under Allison.
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Thank you.
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Allison is supposed to be sworn in,
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Well, if it may be a wrong name on the screen for them, but let me do have as a speaker,
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Jenna Marstonity, you're on your mom.
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Madam, you're on mute.
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Sorry.
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My daughter's school Zoom took over.
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It's me.
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Jenna Marstonity.
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Thank you, madam.
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Okay.
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Please wait for your right hand.
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Do you swear or affirm that this has so many you will give in this matter?
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there will be the truth and nothing but the truth.
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If so, please state, I do.
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I do.
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Thank you, Madam.
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Thank you, Madam Mayor.
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Thank you.
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I will turn it over to staff for presentation.
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All right, thank you very much, Madam Mayor.
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This is an item that was approved by the CRA Board.
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For those who may not know where this is,
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this is going to be directly west of the new Icebox
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restaurant that is on Northeast the Bird Street.
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This is going to be a temporary parking lot.
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Due to the fact that there are a lot of new and exciting things happening in the FAD,
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neighborhood for the first time in many, many, many, many years.
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So for our residents who are in that area, you can see that you should be in container,
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bar and grill that will be there at the intersection of Northeast First Avenue,
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and how to be full of our washers for insurance and a spectacular job.
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with their new facade, go be sure we're still working on their improvements to their building.
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We have, obviously, ice box, and then we have another major improvement that it's going to be the north of north of northeast for street, where the algae costumes are, that one's actually currently in permit and as we speak.
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So we're seeing some great activity in the fat area. And this park in is one of those things that the business owners have said is absolutely needed. And so for a little while, that's why it's on a permanent asphalt park.
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not, you know, CVCR is going to put up this
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archaeological proof by the City Commission.
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And hopefully we'll be able to to encourage more business
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development in that area.
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And with that, I will ask directly why and Jenna to take
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over.
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Thank you, sir.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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Thank you.
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I will be making the presentation on behalf of the city
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for this application for a conditional use.
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We can move on to the next slide
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as the City Manager indicated the location of the property
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is it's two or three in our east, third street, it's right on third street and second
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afternoon in the northeast and directly west of the ice box development.
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We can move on to the next.
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Or you are looking at the regulating plan which speaks to the zoning of the property.
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It is zone, the fashion art and design and district, sub-district in the central regional
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activity center. Next slide please.
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All right, this application is before you as in
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under the fashion art, the Fed zoning sub district. The use that is being proposed
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the interim parking space is permitted only as a conditionally used. So it has to go to commission
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funding of zoning and commission for approval. So this application number C U 2557 is
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presented from the Houndel Beach community redevelopment agency as it is their property for the conditional use
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to allow an interim parking space parking lot on a lot of the 22,000 square feet
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for 42 parking spaces including 2 ADA spaces.
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Next slide please.
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Again, we are going along the Zoning requirements and as a conditional use and entering parking
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space is requiring the City Commission approval.
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And one of the casian additions for interim parking spaces is that they must be maintained
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thus free as far as what the surface material is providing and should have a perimeter
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landscaping with hedges and trees along the property line. Essentially entering
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part enter in parking spaces will not be required to provide all of the
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requirements of a permanent parking lot. Therefore the material is one of the
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essential parts of this application and the reason why it would be presented in
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front of you. This item was presented to the planning and zoning board in September
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of last year the planning and zoning board heard item and recommended approval with the commission the conditions that staff had provided.
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Next slide please.
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So we have visuals of the, well it's it's a little bit prior than the existing right now it's finished.
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But these already in the existing conditions of the property as it was presented to us upon application.
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We can go on to the next slide, please.
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Sorry about the distorted site plan, but we do have a site plan showing to 42 parking spaces and 288A spaces that are being proposed and they lay out in the landscaping would come on the next slide.
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But here you do see the material that is being proposed as opposed to having a hard surface.
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We have some permeable papers proposed on that lot.
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You can go on to the next.
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One of the conditions for the interim parking spaces
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is that the perimeter of the property must be landscape.
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And this is also what is being proposed by the development.
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We do have the parking spaces landscape as per the code.
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Next slide.
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Conditional use permits have eight criteria for approval,
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which were reviewed by staff and presented to the Commission up to the planning and zoning board.
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And the project was found to be consistent with all of the conditions for approval.
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Therefore, we do recommend approval of the project.
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We move on to the next please.
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We do have conditions for the approval. Originally when it was brought to the planning and zoning board, we did ask that the project expired in the five years. There's planning and zoning board to recommend that it be extended to six, which is in front of you now. So the one of the conditions for the temporary use is that it's to allow the interim space to temporary use to six years.
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After that time, essentially the property would need to be brought back to a condition that is acceptable by current code,
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unless by the 60 years expiration time, the use of the material that is there is permitted by right,
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and at that time, they would be allowed to maintain and leave the previous papers as proposed.
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The other condition is that upon the exploration of this project, as a project or a site is expanded,
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that it provides the eight feet pedestrian walkway as required by the code.
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So again this is an interim temporary use of the space.
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So we are not having the property meet all of the requirements of a permanent use.
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we're following the temporary nature of it, but as the use that is being proposed
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becomes permanent, we would require that the pedestrian walkway meet the current requirements
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or the requirements as it is at the time of the exploration for the pedestrian walkways
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along the perimeter of the property.
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You can go on to the next slide.
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Oh, I think that's it.
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That does include my presentation.
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And we do have Jenna Marchenetti for the applicant
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to speak on the item as well.
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Thank you.
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I actually don't have anything more to say other than what she said.
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And I can answer any questions as needed.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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Do we have any people that have eraser hands that are in attendance?
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Any, at least.
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Any questions you want to speak on this item please raise your hand?
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No, Madam Mayor.
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We do not.
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And for the record, City Clerk's Office did not receive any public participation for this item.
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Okay.
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Well the public hearing has been opened for participation.
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And I will now close it and enter into deliberations with the City Commission or have the City Commission answer questions. I'm sorry first. Do I have any hands raised?
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Vice Mayor Butler.
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You're recognized.
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Thanks Mayor. I you know I think that first of all at the this location and I spend quite a bit of time in this area has needed to be improved for quite some time.
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I know that the business owners have been asking for it.
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The site has frankly been somewhat of an eye sore.
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And we do have a significant problem with parking in the area.
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So I'm thrilled to see that this has come forward.
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I think that understanding this is quasi-tuticial.
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I don't see any reason not to approve it.
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And I guess, a way to hear what Commissioner Havillana says,
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I would fully support the item.
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Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Commissioner, have any of them?
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Yes, thank you. Now I'm just going to repeat.
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Please, Mayor Butler, I think this is absolutely needed for fast revitalization.
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Many businesses are investing in this area because they know that there's going to be increased parking
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off of the success of their businesses such as go bistro.
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The ship and container restaurant and bar that we're going to have.
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The item that's on our theory agenda later on tonight and others who are investing in this area.
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I saw no issues, brought up by P&Z, reading their minutes as to why they shouldn't be
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approved and they recommended it unanimously.
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So I think this is great and it shows our commitment to really revitalizing a fat,
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which when we first said, I think two years ago when I first came on the commission,
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we're going to start prioritizing fat.
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There was, I guess, skepticism from some people that, you know,
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it's been said before and are we really going to do it this time, but I was serious about
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it two years ago and I feel like we've really made a lot of progress in this area so I'm excited
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to approve this item.
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Thank you commissioner.
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I just have one question, and I'm in support of this, believe me or not, but I know we do need parking. I'm not a fan of just building a building of parking lot, but I do understand.
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This is not going to be reparking. It will be paid parking because I don't want to think we're just building this for every business.
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It has to be, it's kind of, that makes it an incentive for me.
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The other concern that I have, and this is kind of a general question, and I don't
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maybe if we need to amend the site plan or change it, I'll ask through the city manager.
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I am not a fan of putting these hedges around parking lots.
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We see it, I don't even know if every city requires them, or if this was just some kind of
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that we don't want to see cars. I have a concern with them for safety reasons. You know, and obviously
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maintenance reasons and I think we can lend ourselves to really just putting in a landscaping component like
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the rest of the street looks like. I don't know how my colleagues feel about it, but I think again going back to
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This is more sometimes, so city manager or, you know,
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CRI applicants, what are your thoughts on that?
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And that would be my only question,
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and then I'll, I don't have any other handslet.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Mayor.
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I will ask Vanessa for help with this only because I know
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that the landscape plan was vetted through the DRC process.
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I'm going to assume, and Vanessa can correct me
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wrong, that there are probably requirements for landscape that match what we have on that plan,
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from some of the landscapes that you also see would also be in the bioswill, that we have,
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we have a very large bioswill on the west and on the south of the property as well,
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that we don't necessarily want people to walk into. So again, but I've got Vanessa, we're actually
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Yes, so you are correct. That is a code requirements provided by the hedges along the
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the perimeter of the parking lot. And it does ensure an aesthetic factor to it, but it is a code requirement.
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It's not that the applicant just volunteered at the city did request that.
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Well, I for one, again, I'm not against the bias way, I'm not against landscaping, but
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the prime example is here around our cultural center.
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To me, I would like to, but I guess we can't, if we would want to approve that with an amendment
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to just stick to the landscaping plan throughout the corridor and not put a solid, I can't tell
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what it looks like to be quite honest with you.
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is it going to match the roadway, there's a picture there with an adjacent property that
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has kind of a very, where we put in a bed and then we put in trees, would it look like that
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or we actually building a solid hedge around this parking lot?
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So the hedge, it should look very similar to what we already have in North East Third Street.
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The hedge will be at the high required by code, which again, I'm going to make some assumptions
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I'm going to assume that the hedge will not be any more than 36 inches tall, which is
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typical to what cities have 24 to 36 inches tall and so it's, sorry, what's that, what's
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It's right, right, so it's three to four feet, so we can end over to keep it at the 36 inch height,
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but again, these are the code requirements that allow the plan to be approved by our DRC and so.
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Okay, the question wasn't answered, and I don't know how my colleagues feel about it, if we could, in fact, on wait a minute, I see Commissioner Lazaro raised her hand.
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For input on my question about the hedges commissioner.
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Okay, wait, I think you're muted.
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Yeah, I just, again, I know it's our code, but I don't know within our powers as that you're, you know, the body and jurisdiction and the desires of it.
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is that possible tonight? If we decide to do it, I would ask the city attorney, if the commission,
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if that's a lawful for the commission, I don't want to. I'd actually have to, I'd actually have to
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look into that if you wanted to give me a few minutes and recessed. The problem is that sort of
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But if we if we can't do it, I don't want to hold this up. I think it's a critical project. I'll commission our life
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If you have any input, maybe we'll talk about it under other, but apparently it has to be in, but Commissioner Lazarum, I reckon.
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Okay, we have to do it. I just wanted to see the picture again, just knowing to get an idea. That's okay.
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And I don't have a wide landscaping but just to put a big sketch all around the parking lot to me.
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I don't even know if that makes septid.
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Yeah, I don't care for that either.
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Oh, she's putting it up.
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I don't care for her hedges all the way around either.
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But if that's what I would like it to be consistent with whatever else they're doing on the street.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Do we want to hold out and see if we can change this?
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I don't want to hold day I don't know. No, okay. All right, okay. As long as staff knows and legal knows, it's fully noted. And if there is a way to adjust it, we'll figure it out. I guess.
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All right. To have Vice Commissioner Havayana.
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You had your hands up.
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It's a bit hard to read the presentation.
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Wasn't mentioned how many trees are being planted
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as part of this project?
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Or is it on the presentation?
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It is on there, but it's very small.
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I will let you know, just one second.
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I'm sorry about that.
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I'm always like this.
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All right.
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They have a total of 27 as required by code.
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Thank you very much.
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And Dr. Ellis is part of the CRA's three initiatives
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to plant more trees throughout the CRA district.
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Oh, absolutely.
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So everything that we do, we want to maximize
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the amount of trees that we have as a CRA board has heard.
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We say one of the initiatives that will be
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a part of the $20 dollar project for landscape
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will be us trying to plant probably over 3,000 new trees
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in our city over the next five years.
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So this, so every additional tree that we have,
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we lens to that.
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I mean, you're watching that.
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And I prefer trees to head just to.
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So we'll talk about it on dear others.
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Any other questions of the applicant?
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OK.
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I can't.
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OK.
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I'll entertain a motion.
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I think I've thought of the lines across the teams.
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A motion to approve.
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Do we need to follow certain language?
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Yeah, I would.
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No.
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You know motion to approve this official on this one because we have a resolution. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for that asking that
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Vice mayor. I figured based on the confident evidence of what's pretend got it out of you, but we don't have to so I have a motion from
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Commissioner having
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Commissioner Tom and a second by the vice mayor. I'm the way
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I'm sorry mayor and I'm okay. All right. Could I could I have a real call place?
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Yes.
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Mr. Havayana.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Mr. Nazru.
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Mr. Havayana.
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Yes.
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Mary Cooper.
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Yes.
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Mr. Havayana.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, staff, for your presentations and congratulations CRA.
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You got another project done.
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OK.
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We're going to do it to resume.
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I'd like to ask if this commission would please consider moving my item to the end because the speaker I have is an ER doctor and she has set her alarm for a later time.
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So I'd like to give her at least an opportunity until we're done with all of these other items to speak. So I would ask if we move my item to the end.
[1:29:07]
At least to, I guess after D after C, after C, we'll give you a picture after C, and then we'll, yeah, because I believe
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goal stream is also waiting and then on the call and they are the subject of yes, but I, I'm so I'm going to, if I have to make the motion, I will, but if we could just get, since it was my item, if we could just get consensus to date and fill after I see.
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like you to move because there wasn't, I actually asked to move it up already and it was denied and I appreciate it, but you're going to make a motion.
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Okay, I'll have somebody else that's right up.
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Item C. And vote everybody else up. Thank you.
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Vice Mayor Butler.
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After item C, in other words, we'll do the city manager contract, and we'll just play the program,
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and then we'll do it.
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Are not available, then we'll move forward.
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I'd appreciate it. Thank you. I motion and second.
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Could I have a roll call, please?
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Yes.
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Commissioner Limitab.
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Mayor Cooper.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Commissioner Lazarum.
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Vice Mayor Butler.
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Yes.
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Motion carries.
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Vice sir.
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Okay.
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Item B.
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A resolution on the mayor and the city commission of the city.
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that's the date. This is brought forward by the City Commission. He has already been voted on
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unanimously as our City. Wait, do you want to, Commissioner Lazarus, the one down,
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no, no, my hands are down, sorry. Okay, no, but I know you are present.
[1:31:18]
Refreshing on the vote for us hiring? Yes. Was that the last meeting? It was last meeting.
[1:31:25]
No, I was not. But that's okay. I hope this meeting.
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Would you want to okay, because I was going to say if you wanted to
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Okay, all right, thank you
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Okay, so we have the item be for us
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Does anybody want to speak on the item?
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Dr. Earl would you like to be recognized?
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I'm a city manager Dr. Earl.
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Would you prefer her?
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Dr. Earl is fine.
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Madam, that's fine.
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I'm very simple.
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Again, thank you very much members of the Commission for the faith that you had
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in need to have me serve in this capacity as a city manager.
[1:32:10]
Tonight you have the contract before you and please let me know.
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If you have any questions and other I or the city attorney,
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I can answer them.
[1:32:20]
So thank you for the opportunity.
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I just want to go on record because as usual, our city manager, Dr. Earl, I'm going to say
[1:32:31]
formal, this is the formal hearing. That on record that he is actually taking a reduction
[1:32:38]
in salary. After speaking with him, I had some angst about that, but I understand I may bring
[1:32:48]
of the topic under our Hallendale Beach Ceraing meeting.
[1:32:53]
He will be compensated at what dollar amount.
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$200 and $6,000.
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OK.
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And he does include with all that health benefits
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car, phone, the traditional compensation for a sitting
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management.
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So I do want to commend him on that and understanding because COVID and everything that's been
[1:33:24]
transpiring and I appreciate his service,
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Vice Mayor Butler.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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First of all, echo your comments.
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I just want to say how happy I am for you, Dr. Earl, and frankly for the city that you
[1:33:43]
are now our city manager.
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I know you're wearing a lot of hats, so we can call you interim director, executive, I'm sorry,
[1:33:52]
let's executive director of the CRA, and city manager Dr. Earl now. Is that a good title?
[1:33:58]
Yeah, there you go. You're doing a lot now, and I really appreciate everything you've done.
[1:34:05]
I'm really proud of this city commission of the city and happy for everybody, but you've
[1:34:12]
to take on this challenge. It is a challenge. I'm really thrilled to move this forward. Mayors
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it okay if I make a motion to approve? Absolutely.
[1:34:24]
So moved. I can have a motion and I have a second. With no further discussion, could I have a
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roll? I would like to make one comment. I want to say that I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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I'm
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the city manager should get a lot more money considering the mess that he's walking into.
[1:34:47]
So I want to thank him also for stepping up.
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I know this is not an easy job.
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I think if we had the money, I would ask that we pay you more, but I know the stress that you
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I want to thank you for doing this. I know this is not a job that I would want under good circumstances, so thank you again for taking this. I appreciate it.
[1:35:12]
Thank you.
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Thank you commissioner. Could I have a roll call, please?
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I'm going to show you the top.
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Mr. Lazarum.
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Yes.
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Mayor Cooper.
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Yes.
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Mr. Mayor Butler.
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Yes.
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Thank you very, very much, Dr. Rob.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
[1:35:34]
Thank you.
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All right.
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Item C.
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A resolution of the mayor and the city commission of the city of
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Helen Del Beach, Florida adopting the 2021 state legislative program.
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As it's legislative priorities authorizing legislative programs to be presented to the
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state legislative delegation. For consideration during the 2021 legislative session, I'm going to give
[1:35:58]
direction to ballot partners incorporated as their program and providing an effective date.
[1:36:05]
I'm going to turn this over to the staff as well. I'm going to turn the gavel to
[1:36:09]
Vice Mayor Butler as I have to take a break.
[1:36:15]
Thank you very much. And there this week we have
[1:36:19]
Stephanie Griffin here from Ballard Parkers, Stephanie's going to give us a presentation on what
[1:36:26]
has transpired today, what we can expect in this year's session. She will inform you of what
[1:36:33]
was submitted to the House here in Tallahassee, and also provide opportunities for the Commission
[1:36:41]
to make recommendations to what we could submit to the Senate in Tallahassee. So Stephanie,
[1:36:48]
Thank you, and I also want to thank ACM Sandovala and ACM Club for working very closely with Stephanie on
[1:36:55]
I'm getting this presentation and information together, so thank you very much.
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Stephanie, you're welcome.
[1:37:03]
All right, I'm officially unmute and thank you so much for having me here with all of you today,
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and then I'll tell you how to see office.
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And unfortunately, it's a little later.
[1:37:12]
It's a pretty view out in the window, but it's a great opportunity to get to represent home of you again.
[1:37:18]
Congratulations, Dr. City Manager,
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the CRA director of Earl.
[1:37:25]
That was my pleasure, sir.
[1:37:27]
The congratulations on it's official,
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and I think you're my fourth city manager.
[1:37:32]
Since I started here, maybe third city manager,
[1:37:36]
but definitely the best and their throughout the whole time.
[1:37:39]
So I appreciate that.
[1:37:40]
Thank you.
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And then, and then, and vice-ner.
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So, first, obviously to the moment,
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you had a lot of meetings get delayed and things get moved around, but fortunately we had
[1:37:53]
a pretty extensive legislative agenda and in tele-hacete they are very good at continuing
[1:38:02]
to do the same things over and over and over and especially as of the needs to preemption
[1:38:06]
and control and basically taking any limited powers that we made from you and then messing it
[1:38:13]
So, like all other years, they're continuing to do that this year.
[1:38:18]
They have a couple of new little projects under their belt.
[1:38:23]
So, the legislative agenda that you have in your packet is similar to ones that we've done in the past.
[1:38:29]
There are a couple of issues based on either resolutions that you did or recent bills that have popped up that we're going to answer it.
[1:38:37]
The official legislative session starts on March 2nd.
[1:38:42]
So legislators can buy a bill all the way until March 2nd.
[1:38:46]
They had to already have them in drafting, but that's more of a technical issue.
[1:38:50]
So every day we see new bills pop up that are coming up, getting records of committees, and being heard.
[1:38:57]
So just as an example, you may have seen an alert about it tomorrow.
[1:39:01]
They're hearing a bill that would pream local government in Teltsville, 403,
[1:39:05]
and it's a bill that would pream local government from regulating any kind of home businesses.
[1:39:11]
based on like licensure, like dealing home business licensures and stuff in the city.
[1:39:17]
I live in does that and the cities do that.
[1:39:20]
So, you know, we're hopeful that it will fail.
[1:39:24]
What we see on almost every single branch you vote so far have been a party line vote with the exception of Vancouver.
[1:39:33]
But we'll dig in on that a little bit more in just a second.
[1:39:37]
As of today, we have about 700 bills filed in each of the chambers, and there's about, I guess,
[1:39:45]
where is it about 1200 appropriate, various different appropriations, fairfiles.
[1:39:51]
I was trying to see before we got on the call just how much the total number is that folks are asking for in their budget bills.
[1:40:00]
I think out of for today, yeah, but as of the last time I looked at it, it was roughly about $750 million.
[1:40:08]
Some people are asking for, oh, I apologize. It was actually $1.2 billion of people are asking for.
[1:40:17]
So, you know, obviously, just like at the local level, instead of your tough year.
[1:40:21]
And resources have been to do with COVID expenses,
[1:40:24]
are going to be strained, and just like you are locally.
[1:40:30]
There are training resources.
[1:40:31]
With that being said, we're looking forward to seeing
[1:40:33]
what's happening at the federal level,
[1:40:35]
and what type of resources might be coming down,
[1:40:38]
and watching for every single opportunity that we can possibly
[1:40:42]
send your way.
[1:40:44]
At this moment, we filed four appropriations bills in the house,
[1:40:48]
and we'll be filing five in the Senate
[1:40:50]
And any additional that you choose to add.
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Obviously, Austin Hepburn, Senior Center,
[1:40:57]
is our number one top priority.
[1:40:59]
We already got with Senator Sargell, who
[1:41:01]
is the budget chair in the Senate about it today.
[1:41:04]
We'll be meeting with the budget chair
[1:41:05]
in the house about it tomorrow.
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It is my number one top priority on behalf of the city.
[1:41:11]
And we're going to do all of the time to get that one.
[1:41:13]
I'll fund it in addition to the other three major working
[1:41:16]
One is, and I'm just looking into the back pages five and six, that after school tutorial
[1:41:24]
arrangement program, I can only imagine the best moment for it now than it ever happened
[1:41:28]
before.
[1:41:29]
And I'm not sure if you're doing those in person yet on either the senior center or on the
[1:41:35]
after school program, but having those in place are going to be so important.
[1:41:40]
The alternative water supply we have in the process water products are going to be hard
[1:41:44]
year they told us that they're very limited and the amount of money that they're going to
[1:41:48]
be dedicated to water projects but we always fight for them and advocate for them and
[1:41:53]
this isn't the one because it's in the system. And ready to go. And then the product that
[1:41:59]
strands safety and student safety program is a project that we applied for last year. We're going
[1:42:05]
to apply for it again this year and we're going to try to work through that. I think
[1:42:11]
You know, as with any challenges, any budget challenges, you never know where the restrictions
[1:42:17]
are going to go, and where the limits are going to be, but I'd like to feel like this
[1:42:22]
is going to be a good year for transportation projects, and so we're going to work hard on
[1:42:25]
that one.
[1:42:26]
In addition, there's a fifth project that we're going to be filing.
[1:42:30]
This is a new project, it's the electrical electric vehicle parking and charging facility
[1:42:35]
program, and I know that that's something that's been on your wish list for a long time.
[1:42:42]
So Dr. Earl, I don't know if you've already shared this on with the commissioner, there's
[1:42:46]
anything that you need to share on that project, but I'm definitely getting up to speed on it
[1:42:51]
and learning about it and we'll be getting that in a short time.
[1:42:56]
So that said, I can pause for a second.
[1:43:00]
I can talk to you a little bit about vacation rentals and a couple of the other bills
[1:43:03]
have come up recently, but I think I'll just pause for one second and
[1:43:07]
he's here with questions and then we can talk a little bit about some of the
[1:43:09]
bills that have been going through.
[1:43:16]
Mayer, did you want me to? You're good.
[1:43:20]
Go ahead. Okay. I don't see any hands right there for you. Please continue.
[1:43:30]
We can this week, Airbnb or the navigation signs of bill was heard. It did pass on a party
[1:43:37]
line, but I wanted to share with you a little bit about what's in the current bill.
[1:43:42]
And then I can send this language over to you guys more specifically so you can take a look at it.
[1:43:47]
Um,
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this one, uh, it's more, it's more similar to the side of Bill from last year.
[1:43:54]
It allows the local vacation rental regulations only if applied uniformly to all residential locations.
[1:44:03]
Um, it adds to the scope of the state preemption and it acts as scope of the vacation rental bills.
[1:44:11]
I'm trying to see, it defines the term an advertising platform.
[1:44:17]
It grants the state for regulating any advertising platforms.
[1:44:24]
This is the same bill that you guys have always hated,
[1:44:27]
which really restricts your abilities to put importance in.
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What I do think is different in this one is it gives a little bit of flexibility
[1:44:40]
as it relates to condos and cooperatives and homeowners associations and how they can restrict
[1:44:46]
properties, which I think is a little bit helpful in a holiday that makes specifically
[1:44:51]
as that homeowners associations condo associations, those rules are not crimson by this law,
[1:44:58]
which I think is a little bit more helpful to you, but obviously.
[1:45:02]
So we can take you to work on this issue and watch it, and it'll be a jump ball at the end of session on regional.
[1:45:12]
Okay. Thanks, Beth. I'm good.
[1:45:15]
But you're good for you. Are you taking it back?
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Okay.
[1:45:17]
Yeah, let's take it back. Cause I have a question. Hey, Stephanie, it's great to see you. Happy new year.
[1:45:21]
We'll have to see you survive November.
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This move, okay.
[1:45:27]
I just have a question about the process for water applications.
[1:45:31]
are they doing like a blanket like I know in the past we've had hearings on them and
[1:45:38]
we would go and then they'd rank them. How is that being handled? Because they usually
[1:45:43]
put a pot of money and then you're ranked or we're in a ranking or there has to be not not
[1:45:49]
for us. Yes, you have gone through that process. I believe that a specific manager is
[1:45:55]
is more familiar with navigating that process on your behalf and I do know the water project.
[1:46:03]
Because that's a really part of the legislative process that happens ahead of time.
[1:46:07]
Going through the right of my process.
[1:46:09]
I do believe that the water project that we submitted is ranked.
[1:46:12]
Is that accurate?
[1:46:17]
Yes, I believe that is a project.
[1:46:18]
The process?
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Okay.
[1:46:23]
I believe the last year, I don't know if the ranking stays the same or if it changes,
[1:46:31]
but I believe that last year we were in the top 30 or so, but they only went to about
[1:46:37]
my team as far as funding went, and so, that sound about right, I apologize that it
[1:46:44]
don't have it sitting right in front of me.
[1:46:47]
No problem. Yes, that is the process. It's a breaking process and we just need to wait for them to take to produce the list and that's how we'll find out.
[1:46:58]
They redo it every year, right? It's not into your process to win your process.
[1:47:01]
Win your process.
[1:47:02]
Yeah, really.
[1:47:03]
So I know that as soon as she gets out, she usually sends it over to us, and then we're usually fighting water.
[1:47:09]
It's always the last thing that they put into the budget.
[1:47:11]
You know, the last time I went through that they actually had, we were really close to ranking and then there was, you know, they cut the funding or what did something. So that's why I was curious to see and we're ranking was.
[1:47:25]
Um, you think the fact that it's just what we would consider shovel ready projects is going to be really helpful for us and good hopefully the folks help.
[1:47:35]
All right.
[1:47:37]
And, um,
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I need to realize for us in today, um,
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
[1:47:58]
What is happening with the governor's bill regarding the first amendment and protesting and criminalizing that for lack of a better term?
[1:48:10]
Any idea at this point?
[1:48:12]
Yes, yes, yes.
[1:48:12]
I actually, I had one in.
[1:48:14]
I was checking that right when you, I was about to see if it had been referred to the second committee act.
[1:48:23]
I'm sorry.
[1:48:23]
I should have asked you an advance.
[1:48:25]
No, no, no, no, no. It's perfect. It's perfect.
[1:48:27]
Bro, we were talking. I saw something popped up on my screen with an attack, popped up about it.
[1:48:31]
But it was just saying that it was in a, so where, where that felt is right now is in the house.
[1:48:37]
It was what, obviously, it's House Bill 1. It was very first Bill, um, that went through the
[1:48:42]
leg, the legislative process. It was the very first Bill that was heard on January 27th in
[1:48:55]
It has to go to the revenue estimating conference to see how much it's going to cost and and what kind of a fiscal impact it would have
[1:49:02]
So it was in criminal justice impact committee on the 15th. We don't take votes, but they do come up with like a revenue estimating.
[1:49:11]
So I hope is that it doesn't.
[1:49:13]
So how would you be having a fiscal impact on this?
[1:49:18]
I mean, where do you see that being the issue?
[1:49:21]
adding more police.
[1:49:25]
So, I don't, I apologize, I didn't actually look at the factoring conference, but yes.
[1:49:31]
They'll look at any single thing. Do they have to hire one more police officer?
[1:49:34]
Do they have to, um, with require rewriting model?
[1:49:38]
So, like, any single aspect of the fiscal impact and the goal, obviously, if you're a
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to this bill is to have it be as expensive as possible because in a typical fiscal year it gives
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it gives kind of the moderate Republicans more of an excuse to vote against it.
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With that being said, I do think that we're going to continue to hear this and do think that the
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In unifying reasons to hear it throughout the legislative session, and I'm hopeful that some of the more moderate voices in the Senate side will, so that's definitely coming along.
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We're also seeing a lot of sheriff's police officers across the state coming out in opposition to it.
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That's an opposition?
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Yes.
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And to get there, a progressive sheriff's,
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like, Sheriff Cloney and Broward,
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the sheriff in Orange County,
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the sheriff in Hillsborough County,
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I believe it was that are coming out in opposition
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to this day, and that people have the right,
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you know, to be featured in a police officer
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shouldn't be, you know,
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in the business of surrounding police.
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Okay.
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So, I'm trying to think if there was another one,
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because I can always ask you offline.
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Yeah, and I'm sure the, you know, I mean, if this is something that you're
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lying fortunate or other lying fortunate or opposed to, it would be good for them to
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stand up and have their voices heard on it. And so, you know, if that's something that would
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be appropriate in your police department or others, and you wanted to chat to them, I think
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probably would be the thing.
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Well, just for the politics of our legislature, if it's a governor's bill, do you find
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that that, obviously, if people want to have their bills heard, that they're going to
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being more inclined to vote for this down party lines?
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Yes. Of course, anything that, you know,
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as it gets closer to budget time, definitely, you know,
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where the governor falls is important.
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But, you know what?
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I also think that over the past month,
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our country has gone through a big shift in a big change
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and I think that we're seeing some more moderates on both sides
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that are just kind of standing up and saying wrong and wrong.
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And so, you know, I'm hopeful folks do a right thing
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that protect the rights.
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Thank you. And they're not doing too many meetings in person.
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I would imagine this year.
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No, so they're doing no meetings in person.
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And they just started really hearing bills this week.
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And a little bit last week, but up until now,
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they were just doing interim committee meetings.
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It's really, it's really, really weird up here.
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All meetings are taking, I mean, you need
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and street corners, restaurants, and the evening.
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You're not allowed in the capital on the set
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of side at all on the outside.
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You have to be brought in by an aid and walked out by an aid.
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So it's definitely a unique experience.
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It's interesting.
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Well, thank you for your work up there.
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Oh, definitely. Thank you so much.
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Hi. Anybody else with questions?
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Commissioner Havagata?
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No, I don't have a question.
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I'm from Esgratman.
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I just wanted to make the amendment to the package.
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Then I mentioned earlier.
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Pages it on.
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Phase two at the bottom.
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The sentence support legislation related to a
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Mending Current FDEP regulations for
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Hardbottom monitoring and mitigation related to beach
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Re-nursment projects.
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That makes a fairly needed re-nursment projects
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cause prohibitive. I think this is kind of very much an opposition to the work that we've
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done. Sorry one second.
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Sorry my dog. It's it's very much an opposition to the work that
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we've done protecting our cruel our coral reefs. And I really don't think the cause prohibitive
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nature of protecting coral reefs really affects us as a city at least because per vulnerability
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and adoption plan that we adopted last August, it shows that since 1971 we've had nine
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reimbursement projects and the city has only had to contribute financially five times.
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That's $5 million over 50 years and of all nine projects, the total has been 78 million.
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That's the feds and say and we have covered. So we've only covered five million of that 70
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and that's not a reason to reduce our environmental protections to have reimbursement.
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So I would like, if we could remove this sentence,
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I mean,
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how far we need a motion?
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Yes, I mean, I make a motion to remove this sentence.
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I mean,
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you know, being history and being like I said earlier, I don't have a problem with monitoring.
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But again, that's what they've done in the past.
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I don't know how much it costs for that monitoring, but again,
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I agree with you, the certain extent there has not been a vast impact for Halendale Beach's
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reefs, but I don't know, you do have a reef across and an actual dive spot here in Halendale Beach.
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I don't know if you're aware of that.
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I don't even have a staff.
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There's actually a dive spot off the coast of Hallendale Beach for diving.
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I would hate to, if it is causing any concern, I don't know the quality of the sand or what's going
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happened as long as there's monitoring, I feel more comfortable. I, I,
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I, I think our sees are so fragile that as long as they, and that involved like divers going down and monitoring. So I guess you're saying you don't want them to even pay for that.
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No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I guess I'm confused what your goal is. No, the goal is because otherwise it sounds like we're in favor of mitigation of removing the coral rates to hard bottom.
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are the way it's written, that's why it keeps reading it over and over so on.
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It doesn't.
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The sentence, the sentence suggest less monitoring.
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It's a if you.
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Maybe it would be helpful if we hear from our greenish-ish nerves for neither?
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Yeah, it sounds like this made us unsi-bけど.
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But every, what does it sound like, this might be a relic of an old time when you know...
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We can remove it and not really have a position.
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what this position is saying is that you support deregulation to make it more
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cost effective for each week. Yeah, that's basically what it is. So if you get rid of
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it, you just want to eliminate the toss. I think the sentence is unnecessary. Okay, I got
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it. Oh my god. Oh my god. All right. I was reading it the other way. Any other questions?
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And do you have a motion and Commissioner Lazarus, you seconded it? I believe for discussion?
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Okay.
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Oh, who seconded it?
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It was Commissioner Lazarus.
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It was me.
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I was like okay.
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Thank you.
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Teamwork.
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Could I have a role call on that change?
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Uh, best mayor, Bethlehem.
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Commissioner, have a yearna.
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Commissioner Lazarus, as
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It's going to be the top.
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Yes.
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Mayer Cooper.
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Yes.
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Mark and Terry Spive Zero.
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All righty.
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Any other changes?
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That was the only thing I had.
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Yeah.
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No, I meant from everybody else.
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And since this is our policy moving forward,
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I would add support of this,
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I'd move to put in the resolution that we just passed in support of
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the other items as discussed, the soil size.
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I don't spell 549.
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Okay.
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How do you pronounce that?
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Silicide.
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Silicide.
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Silicide.
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Silicide.
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It's kind of hard with the mask on.
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I know.
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I'm not hearing myself, so.
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I mean, what's going on with the mayor?
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I have a question.
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Could I have a roll call, please?
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Mitch, can I have a Anna?
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Yes.
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I'm sure you may talk.
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Yeah.
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Mary Cooper.
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Yes.
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Would you like a laser?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Let's carry the laser.
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Okay.
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Do we need any other housekeeping before we move on?
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If not, I would entertain an emotion to adopt the 2021 legislative program for Helen
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Dale Beach.
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Is that a move?
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I have a motion.
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And a second.
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Could I have a roll call?
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I'm sorry.
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The second.
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I did.
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Thank you, madam.
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I'm going to go on a
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Yeah.
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Commission,
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the top?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Comitial,
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Yes.
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Marco.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Comitial.
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Yes.
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On the case, sir.
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Good, good luck.
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And I am doing this for 20 years.
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And I remember when they actually had opened meetings,
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and opened the base and opened a lot.
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So it's kind of this heartening now and it's very sad state affairs.
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I have a call going on.
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So I'm going to go.
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Yeah, that's so politicized along party lines like our national government.
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Things don't get done for whatever.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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I do anything I just wanted to add, even though I don't do your federal lobbying for you.
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been spending a little bit of time in DC and it's exciting and I wanted to share with all of you
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that the Deputy General Council for the Army Corps is going to be Gary Farmers Former,
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a Senator of Gary Farmers Former, A.J. Shannon and I know that I want you to write the challenge out.
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And please vote two guys quite a few times. So, when it's time, the deputy general counsel is there and he will see everything going through the country. So I think that will be helpful for Dr. Earl and your team, and I'm happy to set up a call. If you guys need that.
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Anna Bigda every day has new people from the administration who have been through, we see a lot of Broward and a lot of Florida because, and I don't know if you know, if you all know this, but the deputy chief staff at the White House is a former Florida girl who used to brine camping downstairs, General Maryland, Dylan.
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So it's exciting, I'm sure many of you are seeing, you know, people that you live in the process for a long time, I'm getting really cool jobs in the can and the fact that also I enjoy and have a great Wednesday. Thank you wait wait wait wait what I'm just saying if you have a relationship with him, I mean, I know I've met him and spoken with him and since it's the Army Corps, it would be very interesting if they would weigh in on our slow HP.
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Because it is the inner coast of the waterway. Just food for thought guys. You know, so it is their water.
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How the process? Let's go if I'm going to.
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You know, I'm sure if it can be helpful, they will.
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Okay.
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If people come into the office, they expect every single project to be a coastal project.
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And he said, no, I care about it and land to.
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Okay.
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You want to.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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All righty, we're going to go back now to a discussion of a letter to Goldstream Sponsor
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by Commissioner Lazarus.
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So you said Goldstream is in the wing, so let them go first.
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I think they're still here.
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He has his hand up.
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See, Clark, if you could bring him up to the queue, please.
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So now I'm at a mirror.
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Thank you.
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Good evening.
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Good evening, Mayor Commissioner.
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So that's nice to make you an amazing bottle.
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Hi, Eden.
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That's what I'm waiting for.
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Yeah.
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Let me put this green down.
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Are you on phone or are you alive?
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Yeah, I'm alive.
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I'm happy.
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I'm happy.
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So yeah.
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We see your life there yesterday.
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And we get a response.
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I'm actually quite glad the letter was sent.
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Because it just point out the things that we're done in California.
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and I was the, actually the executive director of the California Tracks, the one mentioned
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in the letter, predominantly Santa Anita Park, and we talked Santa Anita from a track that
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had suffered some fairly kind of bad numbers from an injury standpoint, and made it within the
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space of two years, one of the side-to-stradish tracks, not only in America but in the world.
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So we're very proud of the accomplishments.
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We have a real opportunity in a panel
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and at a Gulf Stream Park to not only do the same thing,
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but with the advent of the Federal Bill
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with recently passed school, the horse racing
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integrity and safety act.
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Naturally now, we're going to take a lot of those lessons
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learned, but we were at the forefront
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of developing those protocols, those processes,
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and implement them federally and obviously Gulf Stream Park
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and the other tracks around the country and even in the state will have a benefit from those improvements
[2:03:27]
of safety, before Sam and the RIDA.
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Well, I want to thank you because when I saw the item, I know that you're a large partner
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of us in our community and a large taxpayers, and I was kind of alarmed, and I know some of
[2:03:45]
the statistics were inflammatory because you are the busiest track.
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I think when we had spoken, so that needs to be in duly noted as well, so I figured I give you an opportunity to share with us your progress.
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Absolutely, and I am brand new to Florida. Hopefully we can have a great relationship and I really don't mind.
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people, the cordial people ask questions. The public has the right to know how what we do with
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horses, how well we look after them. And if there was ever a situation where we could improve,
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be sure that we have to improve. Horse racing when it's done right is one of the most beautiful
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glorious sport in the world. When it's done wrong, horses can get put in jeopardy and injurious
[2:04:32]
can issue. So we have a duty with what we do for a living to make sure we do it the best.
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And in my eyes there's no better place than our Gulf Stream to do that.
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It should be a country leader, it's not a global leader in what we do.
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It's a big busy track, it's one of the busiest race tracks in the world.
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I mean it runs all the time.
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We have 1,400 staff employed directly by Gulf Stream.
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We actually have 600 people live on.
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On the track, the look after and care for the LED-1800 horses. As they'll have appointed out, we've got to
[2:05:07]
make some improvements and we are making lots of improvements and don't take me on my word. It'll
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be, you know, I'd like to come back in a few months time and maybe present, hopefully, when the pandemic's gone.
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So I can actually show up at present and answer any questions about also love for anyone, any one of the commissioners yourself,
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Mayor, Vice Mayor Butler is going to an amazing surname.
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I love any of you to come out and see the tracks and see what we're doing.
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It is a little work in progress, there's some things we're really changing, but I can assure
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you myself, my team and the ownership of the track are fully committed to making it the best
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race track you can possibly be.
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Okay, Commissioner Lazar, are you of the floor?
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I believe that there's public comment, City Clerk.
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Yes, Madam Mayor, we did receive one voice.
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Well, just for this item, okay, would you like to play it now?
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Madam Mayor?
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Mr. Davis, please.
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Thank you.
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I'm going to come in in regards to the atrocities that are being committed
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at the Gulf Stream or Shracing Park.
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So far, the number over 100 horses have died in Gulf Stream Park,
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We're the past two years when you're taking to account 58 in the year of 2019 and 53 in the years 2020.
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This is unacceptable.
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These horses do not deserve to be treated this way.
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And this industry continues to claim that they love these animals.
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I think it's further from the truth.
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These animals are viewed as opportunities to make money.
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They're used, abused, and then discarded.
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If they're on drugs,
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even human athletes are not permitted to be on.
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For example, Lasics, and Gulf Stream Park has no transparency to even keep track of what drugs
[2:07:26]
these animals are on, how many of the horses die annually.
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It's not even posted,
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so I highly recommend that actions continue to move forward so that
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Gulf Stream Park can find another profession, the real estate view is part of different
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means and the abuse of horses. It needs to go the way of the dog racing in the state of Florida,
[2:07:54]
as the Florida residents begin to understand what's going on at Gulf Stream Park.
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This movement will get bigger and bigger, so please get ahead of this movement and get
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on course to support the sources that are being abused.
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Thank you.
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Are there any other speakers?
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No, Madam Mayor, we have received a large volume of e-commerce, though.
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That will be made part of the record with the minutes.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Good. I just want to make it abundantly clear. I love horses. I love animals. I love dogs. I am so
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frustrated. I've heard from this Mr. Koblin a couple years. I don't think I've ever met him. And I really
[2:08:45]
find that they're actually commenting on people's prized possessions, just like my dogs. I mean,
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I have a dog that I care for, I feed, I make sure it has great medical attention.
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This is, that's mine, my hobby.
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Versus are mental run. They're meant to be, you know,
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I worse back or made every slumber in Colorado.
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So, you know, I always want to, I'd like to meet Mr. Copeland.
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I understand what his agenda is, and every once in a while,
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his name comes up in reporting or bashing,
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and it's interesting that he's being a real estate.
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So I've been around long enough to understand
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competitions from outside the state, inside the state.
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So, I am totally tired of having our commissions hijacked with these extreme agendas.
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Goldstream's been here free.
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There is, I support them. They are a state, national, and rural leader in what they do in this industry.
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They have athletes that are dedicated and trained. Yes, injuries can happen in any sport.
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whether it's football, basketball, soccer, race,
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card driving,
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and this has gotten out of control.
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I found it offensive and disgusting during the election time.
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So I'm not going to be shy about it.
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I was another one that did not vote the pen dog stores.
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And I'm not interested to this movement if they were doing what they're doing, I
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support them. They want to protect and run safe rest. So that's all I have to
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say. Thank you.
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And I think they addressed your concern already.
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I'm sorry. Who you
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I'm talking to you, you're right, I'm the address mic concerns, you're right, I'm your letter, I'm in a draft.
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No, I think I'm going to make a motion at the end to send a letter, I haven't spoken on the letter, but I'm definitely going to continue to make that motion.
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I will speak directly to Aden, listen, we know that the state makes you race, even if you didn't want to you'd have to.
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So there's no question that we couldn't end all gracing.
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I mean, horse racing, the way we can and could have ended dog racing.
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So with that being said, I understand that the end goal is not at this time to ask you to stop racing.
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But looking at the Santa Ana Anita website, as you yourself acknowledged and thank you for being an agreement and being so, you know,
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progressive, or whatever the word is that you'd like to use on board.
[2:12:23]
And I think the formality of a sending this letter is just really taking that position
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as a partnership with you, that you have agreed that you're going to be more transparent.
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I don't think you would be opposed to this commission, hopefully formalizing that since
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your letter did seem so, in response to it, you were also in agreement with those changes.
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So I think it's important, particularly because there has been, you know, today there was some media coverage on this.
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I was interviewed and I know that now there is some kind of a spotlight being looked at this industry.
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So I would definitely ask this commission that we move forward.
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I'm going to make the motion unless somebody else has something to say.
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I'm going to make a motion to authorize the proposed letter from the city commission.
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And those who would like to say yes, I would appreciate if you would agree with that, say yes. So that's my motion.
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I'm going to speak one more time. You know, let's not be so disingenuous.
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And you have followers, they really care about animals.
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But I'm quite shy and I'm going to go and record that you didn't even question it
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excepting 25,000 plus if not more dollars from Wall Street.
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So I think this is a flap end of face and it's really unfair to one of our largest taxpayers
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in the city, as well as a world leader.
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I had my hand up. Who's next? I had my hand up.
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Commissioner, Tom.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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So, you know, I, I will say this.
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You know, I've been in animal rights advocate since I was 19, 20 years old.
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I've gone into some of the worst neighborhoods, some of the worst homes.
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I continue to do that to rescue abuse.
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animals, particularly abused dogs, some of the most horrific things I've ever seen.
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You know, there are few really, really bad cases that came out of Power and Del Beach.
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I do think that sometimes,
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you know, unfortunately I think this is politically motivated.
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You know, we all know during the election,
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one of the commissioners here and another candidate brought people to protest during a plant-based festival that you all had, I have to say that I am very, very proud of the partnership that, you know,
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was very amenable when I approached you when I approached Bolshek in two years ago and suggested
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that maybe some of the ways that we can write past wrongs would be finding a common ground.
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And I proposed bringing this plant-based festival to Bolshek and the first event drew over 4,000
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people. And my goal in that was to showcase what plant-based diets can do for the environment.
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And you all responded in kind and it's been several festivals after that. I think that sometimes what I've learned through my advocacy is that when we are abrasive and we were on it.
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that doesn't always work, but coming and trying to find a common ground. So as an animal
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right advocate, I don't like horse racing. I've never been to a horse racing that I can't
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say that for other commissioners. I can't say that for the commissioner that's bringing
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this up. In 2016 after the election, we were invited to a private suite up in Gulfstream
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I declined because I am an animal rights advocate and I just prefer not to be in any
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type of racing. It's not what I like, but having said that, it is what it is and if we
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can come to a common ground Mr. Butler of having more
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huge meeting treatment.
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And if there's any wrongs in the past, making them
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right, and having oversight, then I think we can do
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that in an amicable way where we can sit down and have
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honest conversations.
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But please don't mistake.
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This is a politically motivated, you know,
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was accused of being a fake vegan. That was the best they had, was that I'm a fake vegan,
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and I eat, and I eat, I wasn't. Be for whatever it is that they accused me. It was all ridiculous.
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And you know, a bunch of people came to protest, this was back in October. This is politically motivated.
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I am sorry, you're one of the, you know, golf students, one of the biggest partners that we have
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in the city. I have been able to find common grounds with all of you as a matter of fact, and
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the first of that that we had, we had a lot of animal rights people in rescue that rescue animals,
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rescue dogs, trap cats, that came to the event and loved it and appreciated it. And so I think
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we can reach some goals, but this is not the way to do it.
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So, Commissioner Commissioner, if I may, I'd like to dissimilar, I'd rescue anybody
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myself that generally horses are a little hard at the feet, and the comment that was made
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out of the agenda.
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I'm never calling you up.
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This is all about making money.
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I could show you my bank at the end of each month, and it's definitely not about making
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money for me with regards to looking after these sources. Most people in this love them,
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but what you said really really true with me, we are want to be great partners with Alan
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the Elbetron with the community and anything we can do to improve it. It's going to be done
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in the very small for way by people who are experts and what we do. There is not one person
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on my team around that I know that if I, for a second floor, had anything but the best, best
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attention to these animals, that their butts wouldn't touch the ground, they would be removed,
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with every element of power I've got, and I can give you my word, and for whatever that's
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work, none of you know me. Please, any time you want to ask questions, any time on little love,
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people to come and actually, I've got three riding ponies at the track, at the moment, come and see
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them, come and see the backguards, so I'd come and see how the walls are. I can't come.
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It's really
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I've loved being great, and I understand it, and I also understand
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Doug Raysson went away, and also quite smart with regards to that.
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Standing, the Doug tracks themselves wanted to go away, so they didn't have to put that spot on. I, on the other hand, country for the mission as statement, I'm for the generation from this industry. My grandfather was in this industry and the UK and my father was, I don't want this to go away. This is, you know, about building another casino box. This is about doing something that again, when it's done right, can be a really beautiful sport. Now you're great. If anybody was being put in harm's way, we will not stand for them.
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anything that's proven in, that we can prove, we will adapt to the just and finish it up,
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luckily for us the feds, I'm just introduced a very strict bill with regards to medication,
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craft use, craft reform. So while it is a little unfortunate, you write there's a lot of
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politically charged voices here and it's no irony and I think Mac, who are delightfully
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pointed out that there's a lot of real estate here and a lot of people who would like to
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you're going to stay at use to something else but we're going to keep doing what we do and
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please anything you ever need of me or the track I will allow the law to just write away.
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So I'll finish this Mr. Butler. Will you commit to, I'm not going to sign on to letter. I think
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there's other ways to achieve a more humane approach with the way that the horse is treating.
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Treat it. Will you publicly commit to a more humane and transparent process in which the horses are treated but also any reports of you know mistreatment?
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You have my word and the word of the stronger group, which is the company that owns it, that everything in our power we can do to be human, we will absolutely do.
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Before the federal bill kicks in in 2022, we do everything in our power and again I'd love to present to you guys and bring you to the track and show you some of the things we've already started to make.
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So you have my commitment on that, absolutely.
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And with regards to transparency and I don't like the point
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that my people are on, golf screen is one of the very few tracks
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that actually report on the Jockey Club injury database every year.
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How many fatalities we had of the tracks including other tracks
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and Florida don't do that.
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So it's a little disingenuous when people call us out for not being completely
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transparent with regards to the horse injury and more over the other tracks
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than the other tracks and Florida.
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We've run a hundred percent more. We are double the size of WMM. So I have no qualms owning up to things that we've done wrong and trying to work better and trying to improve this.
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But in a fairness and a dramatic statement, if you're not back by proof then it's really just a disingenuous and a little bit of a time waste.
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When we are trying to improve support and fix things, the world will correct you in the past.
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Thank you sir. Thank you. Thank you.
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this is not my fight so I will not hijack it. I will not hijack it. There are very
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worthy animal rights causes that my colleagues fight. This is not one of them, but I will
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take you at your word and perhaps both parties, my colleague and you can have a meeting that's
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a meaningful conversation.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Now I'm a resident.
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I'm around.
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I'm always on the track scene.
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I want to find me.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Who is next?
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Vice Mayor, you're recognized.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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Thank you, Mr. Butler for your comments.
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So I thought until I heard your accent that you might have been one of the Kansas City Butler's.
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I want to be Irish, but I want to go back.
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Yeah, apparently, maybe we go way back.
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I don't know.
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But I appreciate you coming in tonight.
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I just, so I'm maybe less sensitive to these things than most when I read the letter.
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That Commissioner Lazarus put forward.
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I thought it fairly innocuous asking for and respectfully doing so to provide information that you in your response,
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which I appreciate as well. You're quickly responded to say that what she's asking for you actually
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had provided in Santa Anita. I guess my question is based on your response and this letter
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is that a direction that you plan on going is to provide that added level of transparency that's
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being requested in the letter. Absolutely. In fact, the website question I built, so I'm
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So how do we get there at A.B. as a corporate patient and it's this is not happening.
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All of the websites for all of the tracks are being redesigned in a more modern approach.
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That 12 months ago we went through a rebranding exercise.
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So all of the protocols and processes that are specific to Gulf Stream Park, there will always be some differences.
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But until 2022, when the whole country will come into a singular alignment, there will be slight differences.
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But I can assure you that the website will be a section as there is in California,
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when you're showing the process in protocols with regards to, again, something different
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is the CHR being California, which is a state body, which is under the control source
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racing.
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Does have some extra levers that legally we wouldn't have in Florida, but what we tend
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to do in that case, where we don't really have the ability from a legislations standpoint,
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we go to the horsemen and try and cover the house rule, so you'll see a lot of the companion
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rules and comparison rules to other states, we've had to implement ourselves such as
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basics and things you'd have to do that with an agreement just with the horsemen where
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they'd be the state law that didn't cover us, we have to kind of do it ourselves. So long, long,
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way around of saying there'll be a nice website with all the protocols and the transparency
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that issues with them coming up as soon as we can get it up. That's fantastic and I appreciate your
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I agree with the comments of Commissioner Taub, I agree with what I think Commissioner Lazaros was trying to accomplish here and I certainly agree with the mayor. You guys are a fantastic partner and I want to welcome you to South Florida and appreciate your willingness to add that added level of transparency, which is obviously important to the community.
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I just want to tell you that a Gulf Stream really holds a special place in the city of
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Hallendale, and I know you're new here, but a lot of people love it, not just for the horses.
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So there is a history that goes really far back with Gulf Stream, and I'm really looking
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forward and hope that with your now presence at Gulf Stream, that we'll see some of the
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opportunities that I think we've missed over the years, be taken advantage of and looking forward to it and really appreciate having a fellow Butler in town.
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You can't have so many Butler's right.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, Mr. Butler.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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So I just wanted to say a Mr. Butler.
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Nice to meet you. I just definitely want to have a conversation with you outside of the meeting where we can talk about some things.
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I didn't have some concerns last year that I think I brought up to the commission.
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And then I had a meeting with your predecessor and my questions and my concerns weren't really addressing that meeting.
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And then a few weeks later, you know, there was the incident with the FBI getting involved and charging trainers and veterinarians and the horse drugging.
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scandal which I realized was across different states and even a bit international. So I definitely
[2:28:17]
want to follow up with you on, you know, what has happened since then to make sure things
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do these things aren't happening. So definitely we'll connect with you offline too.
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I would love to have that opportunity. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you.
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Hi.
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I'm in queue again. Okay. Commissioner Flasher.
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Yeah, Mr. Butler, can you speak to the number of dead horses in 2019 and 2020 and now 2021, please?
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And by speak to them, you would like amounts?
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No, I know how many there were, according to the Department of Power Mutual Wager,
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and I just like you to explain why there have been 115 deaths since 2019.
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I like the fact that everybody is being so cordial and respectful, this is not personal to you, I would just like you to address 115 dead horses.
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Absolutely, so unfortunately there is an easy way to say this that it is a high octane sport.
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Jockey's getting into the force, he's getting into it and unfortunately there is only so much you can do to protect courses
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and anybody who does anything that's a physical major.
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If I gave you the step that over 400,000 trips a year around the track, that's between training and racing,
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And then you look at the small volume of injured horses.
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And you get the numbers from the pyramid.
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You took it behind each story.
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And each injury, there is a reason.
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Sometimes it's hard to explain that there is a reason.
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Some of those didn't pass away from anything to do with a physical activity. So what it would say to you is, and just again, take me on what I've done, don't take me on on on on 29 C, I again take in San Trinidad to attract that had quite a space and injuries to being one of the safest tracks in America. So we're going to do the same with Goldstream Park and we're going to be very proud of what we've done. And that that's really.
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along in the shoulder.
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So, Chockeys make a choice to get on the horse, obviously.
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Horses don't make a choice to run.
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And, you know, to me, it's not a sport.
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To me, it's another form of gambling on an animal, an exploitation of an animal
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that did not ask to run in a track for money.
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In addition to injury reporting, the same thing with dogs.
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We know it's true with horses, not all of the injuries get reported.
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Whether there isn't we just know that that is not true.
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And so while I appreciate that my colleagues
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who've been very friendly and sing-
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Oh, no, I don't care.
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It's not personal to you.
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I don't like the sandwich dream.
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I always said it to a lawn to pray.
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It's not a secret.
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I don't support whores for a thing.
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But that being said, that being said,
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I also know we can't stop horse racing, so while I appreciate that everybody wants to take you a face value and you seem like a nice enough guy.
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Again, I would still like to formally send this letter. Obviously, I don't have support from my colleagues, so I will put it on my own letterhead.
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And I will make a clear that even though you have agreed as a gentleman that you would do these items exactly as I ask for them.
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I'm still going to formalize it because I'm going to hold your your feet to the fire and say you said on this day that you were going to implement the changes and you know what with all the respect Mr. Butler, why are we waiting until today? Where was this industry before I put this letter on the agenda, you know?
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And what do you do this prior to my asking for you to do it?
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Absolutely. I wish I had to be in a member of the company, I wish I had the experiences
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that I had in California. So I absolutely agree with you. In fact, I'll go one more of this.
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If horse racing can't be done well, it shouldn't be done. And that is the pledge I made to everybody
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to use listening to, and lastly, we can make it safe.
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We're never going to get to zero.
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And there was some rhetoric out there,
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you know, about let's get rid of horse racing,
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let's paralyze these forces and these breathe into extension.
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So they can't be used for sport.
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I'm a big believer in doing things the right way.
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And I will, one rest and I've looked on them.
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So, you know, I have no palms with sending all that.
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In fact, I think you should send all that.
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And I think, you know, after a little bit of time,
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you should then be able to come back and point to that letter, as long as I'm still here and have been accustomed and call me out if I haven't or asked me why if I haven't
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I don't think that's a pledge I could make to you and there's no grand standing under the track every day of the week
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We come and see me, I'd love to talk to you and love to actually go through methodically from other reasons why things have done and some of the reasons why they were done in the past
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And that's all I can do to you, Commissioner, that's all I can offer.
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I don't promise you, hopefully that will be sufficient for today, because I don't know
[2:33:38]
what else I can do, but make that pledge.
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Yeah, there's nothing really I'll say you can do, and as I will say this, having a vegan festival
[2:33:46]
at a horse track for me is like having a potluck at a slaughterhouse.
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That's for me, so I don't support that either, but everybody has a different definition of what
[2:33:57]
consider advocacy. I don't consider that advocacy.
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Hopefully, like I said, I'll send the letter,
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and I will expect that you will do everything today that you said you're going to do. Thank you.
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You're welcome.
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You think on? I don't have a second to my motion, so.
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That's a problem. I can't say I can't second the commissioner.
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I know, my colleagues didn't second it, but that's not a surprise.
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Well, I think we did get somewhere, I think we did get somewhere because the whole point
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of this process, at least we met Mr. Butler, and obviously when the way I operate is if I
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have a concern with the business partner or something I see as wrong, the proper thing
[2:34:47]
to do is actually approach that person and have the dialogue with them.
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So I commend you for opening up, you know, your shop, committing to what you have set out and
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Senator Tana Neda and working for the safety of jockies and horses around the nation, as billiarder
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you are.
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Thank you and look forward, like you said, with COVID and everything that's happening that we
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meet in the future and maybe when you're ready, you could even call me and put on an
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agenda item when you're ready to, you know roll out your new platform.
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Absolutely. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you. Bless. Good night. Sorry you had the wait so long.
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It's okay. Okay. Thanks. Okay. Next item.
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Item D. Charter review committee discussion city attorney here on deck.
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Thank you, Madam Mayor. I don't know if you will call, but I remind you back last year we decided
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when the State of Emergency for COVID was declared that we were going to recess the charter
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you committee for the time being part of that motion which was made by Commissioner
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Tom was to bring it back in February of 2021. I appreciate that at the time I think we all
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thought well by February 2021 this whole COVID situation should have some kind of you know a
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full resolution. I don't think we're there yet, but I did want to fulfill the motion and the
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direction that the commission had given us at the time. So the items on the agenda, I have spoken
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to ACM-COP, who is the liaison for that board, and I have spoken to the city manager. Hello, we would
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like to ask, is that we bring back this item for discussion again in May, hopefully by then we will be
[2:36:44]
a little bit further along with vaccination and a little bit more resolution or idea of
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resolution for the Charter Review Committee.
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I do want to commit to you all, and ACM Club.
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And I have talked about this as has Dr. Earl, that we don't want it to go too much further
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than May because we want to give it more time than what we had before.
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We don't want to be in the rush that we were last time when the Charter Review Committee
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was convened. So the idea being that if you allow us to, we'll bring back this item in May,
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we'll reconvene depending on the situation at the time, of course. But we'll reconvene
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hopefully be able to reconvene the committee at that point and then start the work as it was left
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off. Just wanted to add that the committee does start about the will and discretion of the commission.
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We did have some resignations. I'm not sure who that was on the former committee would still want to serve on the the charter review committee
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When we recommend it, so we will be reaching out to everyone and just finding that out for you all and obviously if you wanted to change your appointment you could do that
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so
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We'll research all of that and make sure to bring that information if we if you want us to come back and may if that's the direction you'd be listening. Thank you
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Thank you, um, baby's hand raised.
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So do you want to, um,
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commissioner allows her your hand raised?
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I have a motion and a second. So it'll come back in May.
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Yeah, we'll be back in May. Okay, great.
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Could I have a roll call, please?
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Commissioner, have you in?
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Yes. I'm assuming that's all.
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Yes.
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Mary Cooper. Yes. Mr. Lesser. Yes.
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Thanks for your Butler. Yes.
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Welcome Carrie Spizer.
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Okay.
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Discussion of the contract for the tennis center.
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I apologize that this backup was a little late.
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I don't want to go over and over everything I sent.
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I hope you all had a chance to read my memo
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because I've been doing some more research on this.
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In addition to doing this research, as mentioned,
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I just want to go over the history,
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really clearly about three different commissions,
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city managers, there had to be at least four
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five and everyone knows how important to me
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as well as I think you share it that our park system
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has been one of the biggest priorities here at the city and we learn last meeting how important the
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leverage of those assets are not just quality of life, but for the economics of it raising
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property values and making our city more desirable. With that said, I want to also say, I am not
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to discuss going out to RFP again.
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I've heard a whole bunch of things.
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I've shared them with Assistant City Manager club at Lank and discussed what my concerns and concerns
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of those that actually have run tennis centers. And this is also not about how to turn better,
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but it's about his knowledge and an understanding of operations. With that said, my golden
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night was to point out some of my concerns. And these concerns I've heard about from residents,
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it's as well. I believe, and I'm going to say this publicly because I feel very, very strongling.
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We, as a legislative body, are here to provide oversight. We also get items,
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presented for approval. It's like in a budget, they're recommended. It does not mean
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we cannot make changes or recommend that it goes back for changes. I think it
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will be able to move us with the presence of Dr. Earl who is an amazing leader in
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himself and making sure that we are getting the best because it started out now we're not getting
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what we're promised. We didn't get money off for current current construction, yes there
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is money on the back end, but there is mechanisms behind concern to that about follow up auditing.
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I mean, not a mandate to use our wreck track, but use their program.
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It's a may, and I'm going to talk about that on my next slide.
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I'm the use of may, shall, and will.
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I think we got to start being very keen on following contracts and these types of items to make
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that we can do our due diligence. So I'm asking today for us to direct our new city manager to review the contract, spend some time looking at it and see that we can be ensured that a lot of the concerns that I've proposed in my letter, particularly with clay courts, residents, priorities,
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these, the feeding, the creases, and the maintenance of us, not getting any revenues whatsoever
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from any of your ancillary things, whether it be camps, clinics, use of all the hard
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like courts and the way to monitor that.
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So I know it's tired of discussing this.
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But I definitely think there's still an opportunity
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to make sure within this contract that we've
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dotted every eye and every team.
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And I was very fresh, straighted at the last meeting as you all were too, but we have gone through many of these changes.
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So with City Manager and Leadership, and I think we're getting on the right track.
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So I have City Park, do you have your hand raised?
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Yes, Madam Mayor, just wanted to let you know for the record. We do have one voice now for this item.
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Oh, oh, that is a vision.
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I'd like to hear it now.
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Oh, yes.
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I didn't.
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I didn't know.
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Mr. Davis, please.
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Excuse me.
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Hello.
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This is Barbara Svalp.
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I think it's one time.
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I've got a lot of thoughts in the creation.
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Advisory Board member, as well as player at Goldwood.
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I also tennis club.
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I am on record as having concerns and speak on behalf of many of the resident players.
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as well as our neighbors.
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We residents have been paying to build this beautiful facility through our taxes and
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feel that the contract has written does not really need the needs of the city, as far as
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financial reimbursement.
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There's definitely favoring the franchise selected.
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I really believe that I would...
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I hope that the commission would re-evaluate and ensure a reasonable profit for the city as well as a realistic
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fee and usage for the residents. As I read the contract, it appears very much in favor of the franchise, where we still in the city have to pay for electricity, landscaping, several of the things.
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and not get any money, see any money coming back until after the franchise or receive an
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exorbitant amount of money. My phone number is 9, 7, 5, 4, 2, 2, 1, 7, 7, 3, 4, and my email
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is Bobby Green Southwick at gmail.com, I would hope that the commissioners would realize that
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this is hitting us in the pocketbook, and we should be able to see much more money coming
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to the city and also to have a favorable fee, especially for residents who've already paid through
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the jail bond.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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There are no more speakers, Madam Mayor.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, City Clerk and why I know Barbara, she's a dear friend and a tennis player.
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This is it. I've had debates with her that things aren't 100% free. So I just want to go
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on record as saying that. And I forgot to add all Florida tennis is really what they operate
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under. And when I looked online and less had changed the numbers that I got here, actually
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Mr. Smatz does not own all Florida tennis. He is actually a member of the board and a
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quote-unquote operator. So I don't know how many other affiliates or what their structure is,
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but I'm concerned that we are just hiring somebody who gets going to do staffing. And I think
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that's critical note to be made. Okay? On Vice Mayor, but I'll start off by saying that I
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want support this tonight and I want to say that Mayor, I did spend time reading through
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your memo and trying to do research to understand where you were coming from with the information
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that you were provided, so although we've had changes in leadership at the city, I think that
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this frankly contract was done really well. And I don't want to second-guess the employees who
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spent a significant amount of time. Obviously, it was a year from the time that we approved the
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the RFQ to all four to 10 us to the time that the contract was brought back to us.
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And during that time there was a lot of negotiations, a lot of detailed discussions into how to ensure that the city got a good deal.
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And certainly the deal that we got is certainly far better than any deal that we had with the prior 10 us in our operators.
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So I think the partner based on all the evidence that we had that came before us at the city commission meetings was fantastic.
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and all the reviews that I've read about this particular operator is fantastic. From my perspective,
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he, the company, seems to be a great partner represented by Jesse Schmatz.
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And I know, in speaking with, just yesterday I spoke with the gentleman who lives in our neighborhood,
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who you may know, who plays for, has played on the Davis Cup for another country. He's very familiar
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with Jesse Smatz and also the twins, I don't remember their names, who are the most successful
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Olympic athletes of all time playing doubles tennis, one of whom lives in the city of
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Hallendale and has also highly recommended this company. So I think the city really did a great job,
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and I think that the negotiates came back as really excellent, and there are a lot of protections
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for the residents and the city within the contract, so I'm not sure where that information is coming
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In tonight's, we already have proved the budget tonight, but you can see that the contractor, the all-forward
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attendance, is already paid us a hundred thousand dollars. Actually, 50,000 of that is early, because it
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wasn't due until TCO, and he's also paying another hundred thousand dollars, which will go into an operating reserve account.
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And then on top of that, instead of asking for additional money that we would go to purchase all of the things like nets and all the other things that go along you can read in the contract those details that all Florida tennis is required to pay for those things as well.
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As far as protecting the city, there are very strong audit provisions that are in the contract that I think were negotiated.
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and I think that they were the right thing to negotiate.
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You can go back and look at the contract from September.
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There's also requirements that have the course
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always be made available to residents.
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So it's not that they can take over our tennis center
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and we won't have access to it for the residents.
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So I did look through all of the things
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that are in your memo.
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I did look at those to see how they relate back to the contract.
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And there was nothing there that I can see
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It really justifies us asking for any change.
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That said, of course, Dr. Earl is our city manager.
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Always has the option and the right.
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If he feels that a partner isn't,
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there is always termination clauses in every contract mayor.
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And if the city manager or the city feels
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that we're not getting, what we deserve from a contractor,
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there are always termination clauses in order
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for us to be able to get out of a agreement and that's and that's really can protect both parties
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for a lot of different reasons. So I just I really spent a lot of time reading this to
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understand your concerns and I don't share them and so I'm going to make a motion that we move
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forward with the contract as it is and we reaffirm our commitment to all Florida tennis as a partner
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and look forward to a grand opening, hopefully April, hopefully sooner, and a very, very,
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successful tennis center with a new partner. And that's a motion I'll make.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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You may, you asked some questions and I didn't want to go piece by piece. First of all,
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the City Manager can't reopen in the contract without direction from us.
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And that's what I was told, and Dr. Earl looked correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's not what I said, Mayor.
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I didn't say that he could reopen the contract.
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I said we always have the opportunity.
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I know.
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But Commissioner Butler let me ask you some questions, though,
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because after talking directly to the staff,
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and maybe you know something I don't know.
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I know this contract was a contract from my C.A.
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It wasn't even mirrored to another tennis facility and there's many of them.
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I was very surprised at that.
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I, you know, you would fit the contract for the service.
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Secondly, I've Kathy Schenz is a good director.
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She's not an expert with tennis facilities.
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Okay?
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She did not. The contract was reviewed by ten cloth for certain items reviewed by the city
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attorney. I imagine for legal sufficiency. So I don't know who else negotiated this
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And I'm not saying that she is bad.
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Are there specific issues?
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Are there specific issues of the contract that you...
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Yes, okay, I will.
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I will.
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Because, you know what I'm saying?
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Let me just...
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Let me just...
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Let me just finish what I'm saying here.
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I am...
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I have made a motion.
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I am not going to support undermining
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Undermining and second guessing the staff who've spent hours and hours, you know, I don't know who what's going back out
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What's I don't want to go back out. This isn't about
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Just see this is about the contract
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Okay, and I was trying this safe time, but I'll go through
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But mayor you undermine the good faith of our ability to negotiate with vendors when every time we negotiate and
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to execute a contract because this is an excellent contract.
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I'm not sure if you're finding any things.
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You do are undermining it.
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How does a vendor another?
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Good business partner, want to come in and work with the city when they actually keep a contract in good faith. And then three months later, we're questioning it and saying, no, we're trying to get back to the terms that we had, was the dress.
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As a business person, I wouldn't want to do business with a partner that way, mayor.
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And so I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to support.
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Just want this kind.
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I'm not going to support, mayor.
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You're going to have fun.
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Well, let me answer your question.
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I actually, I don't need you to answer my question because I'm not going to support it, mayor.
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I will have a contract prior and I think if I if you're not clear, okay, the guidelines that you're saying have the courts
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There's no guidelines in contract for clay courts period. Okay, that's number one
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There's not really a true, unless we've done our two children that we know who's walking
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on and who's walking off unless they're going to be hired to use rept tract, just like
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you go to, be Johnson Park, just like you walk in the wine and the sea eggs, it's a checks
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and balance that we knew, excuse me, excuse me,
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finish. You already said you're not supporting it,
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but I want to make sure my colleagues understand it.
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All right. All right.
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Now, I'm talking to everyone now. Okay.
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And I can't hear it. All right.
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So, there's no, um,
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per se and a way this goes on.
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If you read through it, then you play tennis,
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And you know what tournaments are, okay, there is ways to operate tournaments that if you're not familiar with tournaments and have their run for ages, they hide money, there's no clause that there's no cash transfers on the courts.
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So, you will have, you will have, I'm going to explain it because I am very familiar with tennis too.
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Mayor, why can't we all go on?
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You could assume the same thing of Cafe C today, or any other vendor that could take cash and not,
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guitar who could be doing the same thing for God's sake.
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But you can't limit the ability of a vendor to take cash.
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not going, that's why I said instead of in this contract, they're not required, do
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wreck track. At least well, no, who's going on and off our property?
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Well, we have a lot of abilities if we choose to do that and the audit allows us to review
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the records of the vendor in detail and they're very strong audit provision in the contract,
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But I think it's really well done.
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All right.
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Well, I don't know.
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Again, I would like the opportunity for Dr. Earl,
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and if he wants to speak tonight, if he believes
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it would be a beneficial to our city,
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for him to review the contract.
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And that I understand the authority would have
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to be given them to do it. And if I'm wrong, I'd like Dr. Earl to address that.
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So, I'll address this in two ways. One, I think that there is a, that there are legal guidelines pertaining to the contract that we currently have right now that the city attorney can speak to.
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In regards to this particular contract, I was trying to kind of stay out of it in terms of this particular discussion, but I will give you my honest opinion.
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honest opinion is this, the commission has voted on an agreement that they have entered into
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with a contractor. We have not fulfilled that agreement yet because we are pretty much
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the most part just entered into that particular agreement. So in my opinion, and this is my opinion
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because it was asked, we should let this contractor do what is in that agreement or not do
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what is in that agreement and then either the commission or staff will address it at that
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point in time. So I am trying to not take sides because there's never a win-win but I will
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be my honest opinion. And that is my honest opinion. I think that that
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At the contractor, she should fulfill the contract that we have entered into. I believe that contract was executed to the attorney or not.
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That contract was executed. Is there any legal liability, Jennifer, for us to reopen this thing now at all?
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But my understanding is that the contract was executed.
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I'll have directressions verify that and upon execution there was supposed to be a 50,000
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moment payment which I'm understanding is that it has been received and I'll ask directressions
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to write me if that's taken in any way. So at this point, every contract we do have has termination
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provisions in it, of course, and include information for convenience provisions and wouldn't
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have any right under the existing contract to just a unilaterally require
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a real appreciation. So that would be something that would have to be discussed
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with the contractor at the commission. They're right to us to try to do that. But
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right now we do have an approved and executed contract. It would be a little
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difficult to try to change business terms on it without terminating. Something.
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So it really is your direction of mayor and commissioners.
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Yeah, wait, you're not, you're not, you're Mike's not on.
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I'm sorry.
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I can hear you.
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I'm sorry.
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So it would be at your direction, mayor and commissioners,
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what direction or what step we take.
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You know, staff is always here to implement your decisions.
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So it's up to this body.
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Okay.
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And even to direct you to review it.
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That wouldn't be, yes, it would be up to the spotty to direct that review.
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And give you, after your due diligence, to report that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, that is the will of the commission.
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Then we will go over the contract and we will report back on what we find.
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That's that's just in my goal.
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That's all I want done.
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I have buttons split and I'm going to I'm going to move that because there was an
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ascension.
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I'm going to move that justice and this for this new city manager to review this
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contract and report back to us.
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Yeah, I was going to stuck with you, but there's motion, but you guys were talking, I couldn't
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drop.
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Okay.
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It was not next.
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Thank you.
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So I have to agree with Commissioner Butler.
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I think it is not in good business sense to go through these long negotiations with someone who received the highest points on this RFP.
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Approved a contract, not just a draft or anything.
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Approved a contract enter into what we see as a partnership.
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But as soon as this park is going to be opening,
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they're going to be operating and having the tennis lessons
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for the kids and with the Olympians.
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And then to say, you know what, I don't think we
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got enough out of it.
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And I think this contract is actually very generous to the city.
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I think it's more generous to the city than the previous contract
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with the previous operator.
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And yes, I think every contract starts with no contract
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starts from scratch. attorneys use, you know, previous contracts to work off of and completely
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edit, but I don't think it's an issue that the Honda YMCA contract was used as a starter for
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this when it's completely revamped and totally different in its final form. And I would definitely
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like to hear from our city attorney if she, you know, differences between this contract and the
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If we will receive more revenue from it, because I don't think the claim that we won't be receiving enough revenue or what we could be receiving is true in this sense
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Are it as decayed by our contract?
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So I don't know if that would be for us in the attorney or maybe director Sean's, but I do want to hear a little bit about how this contract was crafted and
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The revenue, but I
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Doing a reopening. I don't think there's any issue with this contract. Thank you
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To answer your question, Commissioner Alviana, the appropriate person and discuss the business terms on it would be direct chance, and she's familiar with the previous.
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Okay, thank you.
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Through the chair of the same major, can we hear from Dr. Shons on the revenue aspect?
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Absolutely. I don't want to thank Kat for speaking on her vacation.
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I was going to say I didn't know she was going to be here because she was on her vacation.
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Thank you for that.
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Director Shons.
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Kathy Shons Park's Recreation and Open Spaces Director. Thank you for allowing me to kind of overview the differences between the two contracts.
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We'll start with the initial capital investment as Mr. Trump that is a academy was there for well over 30 years.
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So I can't speak to if he had an initial investment at the beginning.
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However, that I'm aware of there was not initial investment back when his contract is started, whereas this one has an initial investment of $300,000.
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100,000 towards construction, 100,000 to the reserve account, and minimum of 100,000 in costs for
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what we call furniture fixtures, any equipment. There's some different wording for how
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tournaments are held. They cannot start earlier than 11. I remember a guest play court, so it's a
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little bit different than it was before before it was 10 and the numbers are worded a little bit different.
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And the previous contract, the city paid the operator, $1180 per month, and then $1600 from
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in December in January, and $1180 the other months.
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In this contract, we're not paying the operator anything.
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The operator is covering all his expenses.
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In the previous contract, the city made all repairs and maintenance.
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kept the grounds clean. We even provided the paper products for the
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restrooms and that kind of thing and on this contract the the operator is
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responsible for those kind of things keeping everything clean and
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and working and operating order. We will do the landscaping because we'll
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do the landscaping at the park as well and we did the landscaping before but
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the will be responsible for the repairs and maintenance of the premises. Major
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repairs like if the roof needs to be replaced that that's what that reserve account is for
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the city would be responsible for that. Equipment and supplies again they'll supply all their
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equipment and supplies so if they're windscreens rip and need to be repaired they're responsible for
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or replace they'll responsible for replacing them and the previous contract the city was responsible for that
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utilities, we're paying electric water and sewer, and they're paying all other utilities
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like any internet and any of that kind of thing in the previous contract we paid everything.
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The main difference with utilities is in the previous contract, the operator was not responsible
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for covering the light fees for things like their tournaments or tennis lessons or things where
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city did not get a percentage. In this contract, the contractor is required to pay us the
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light fee when they use the fields for those business items, those services that the city
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does not share the revenue until after 300,000. So if the lights are on because a member is using
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the courts, that's included, but if the lights are on because they're providing a private tennis
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or they're running a clinic, or they're doing a tournament.
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They have to pay the city the light fees.
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They both pay their taxes the same thing.
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In the previous contract, the city received 100% of membership fees.
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Up till 23,159 dollars a year.
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And then we split it 70, 30 with the contract.
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In the current contract, the city keeps 100% of membership.
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I guess fees at no there's no upper limit the same what court fees that same limit applied for the old the former contract so we only got a hundred percent up to that twenty three I don't know where that number came from because it's a very
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But the city only got 100% up till that amount and then split it 70 30 with the contractor.
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Now, we get 100% of all of them and then clay courts.
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The contractor gets 100% up to 300,000 and then after 300,000 of all their businesses,
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whether it's concession or pro-shop or private lessons or clinics or cancer tournaments or clay court use.
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The city splits it. I think it's 96 for 96% of the contractor for percent of the city and the intention
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Was that that will go to the reserve account to help us make sure that we have money available when major mechanical things need to be replaced.
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Lessons, tournaments, camps, clinics, pro-shop, concession, all of that. In the former contract, the contract for kept 100% of that with no limit. In this contract, the contractor keeps 100% up to 300,000, and then the city revenue shares after that, the 96-4 split.
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So, that's pretty much the, that's pretty much the basic, isn't it?
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Thank you, Dr. Holmes. I think this, very good, but he says this is a much more favorable contract to the city than the past.
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I really don't see a reason to reopen.
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Commissioner Lazarum.
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We can't hear.
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You're muted.
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Oh, okay.
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Oh, it's like, I didn't know if you could hear.
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Okay.
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I have a motion to call the question.
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For the overall call, please.
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I'm sorry, Madam Mayor, which question?
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I'm sorry, Commissioner Nazareth, I can't hear you.
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I can't hear you.
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Well, I don't have a motion.
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You're still muted.
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It's not working.
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No, she's not muted, but her mic does not appear to be working.
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Hello, can you hear me?
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Do you have a connected?
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The plugged in.
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To repeat your motion.
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I, the motion was to move forward with the existing contract without any changes in
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re-unfirm, re-affirm, or commitment to the award, the awardee, all tennis, to have a successful
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relationship with and forward with them.
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I had seconder.
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Did I ever get all police?
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Commissioner Lima-Top.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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May Cooper.
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No.
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May spare Butler.
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Mr. Habibana.
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Yes.
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Lovely carries for one.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I do hope you remain sensitive to some of the notes I had shared.
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Thank you.
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Okay, item F, a discussion of proposed changes to the protocol manual.
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One second, I get my notes here.
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I'll just go right to.
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I just comment really quickly. Before we start.
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So, Mary, are you sent here?
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I guess back up memo yesterday.
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I have been very busy since yesterday.
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It took my neighbor to get her vaccine. It took like five hours.
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I just haven't had time to review it.
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So I really haven't been able to go and adapt and look at it.
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So I really can't make any votes tonight on amendment.
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We can just have it right.
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And we can move to move the item to later meeting, because this is one of Commissioner
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Havianas items.
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Well, first of all, first of all, it's my item.
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And I don't mind the divide.
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I mean, I mean, the protocol manual, I understand this is your item.
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I'm just asking if we could move it so that we can have more time, but we were only, yeah, I'll make a motion.
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Second, I'm going to motion in a second and it's fine and I'm sorry for the delay.
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I had to do cut and paste that was the easiest way to set up the presentation.
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And I appreciate Commissioner Harmon, you can move into the protocols, but I'll be respect.
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We have a protocol in the manner because I established it when I was in the office and you guys might not know that so
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I'm going to say a curve for that commitment as well.
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So, it's just self-explanatory.
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I don't mind not going into it, but I want you to remain sensitive that if we do deferred,
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I do want to put it on and I don't want it at the end of the agenda. I'd rather get it done and figure out it's just pretty
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Pretty much, it looks like a lot of reading, but the reading is actually the existing protocol language.
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And it will, I felt the best way to, to move forward. And I didn't want to do it piecemeal.
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So as long as it comes on and we're not waiting till the last hour, it seems to be with,
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even my communications when everybody is tired and exhausted.
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it. So we have two more meetings after this one. So we're not
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nerding that. So I know. I appreciate it.
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Wait, I can't. I can't.
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Somebody has Mike's going.
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Okay. So it's a motion to defer to the first of March, correct?
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Yes, man. And I had a second for that. Could I have a roll,
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Thank you for your consideration and thank you for letting us defer it.
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Yeah, no, I, again, it was my dad took me a while to get it typed in, okay, and I usually
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jump between computers and I have to change it up here, okay, communications, Commissioner
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Havayana.
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Yes, I'll be really brief, I just want to let everyone watching know that the White House
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now just a full health insurance open enrollment period to provide folks for to sign up for
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health insurance. So it's open as of February 15th until May 15th. All you have to do is go to
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healthcare.gov. I also want to thank ACM Sandoval. She was a great in-term student manager this weekend.
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She got back to me really quickly. On flying flags that have to have staff this Sunday and remember
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of the victims of MSC. We had a really great student planting that last Saturday, the volunteers
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of Powell really showed out. They removed invasives, cleaned a beach, and learned how to plant
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dunes and fertilize. So that was really great, and I'm really excited about us doing more
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doing work and coordination with each movement. We talked about earlier. The last thing is,
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so I'm really looking forward to hearing when the grant mortgage utility relief will be sent into
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I think it might be coming soon and how if it'll go to the county and how they'll allocate
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it what type of distribution will be going on because I really wasn't impressed with the distribution
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of the financial utility and mortgage relief we had that was due back in December.
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It was a really hard to access process, a lot of residents were contacted with, you know,
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I went, you couldn't submit it online.
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I had to go in person to this office and when I got to the office they said they were closed
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until the week of it being due because there was a COVID outbreak, so it really was not accessible,
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so I definitely would like to see improvements in that for the next time. And the last thing
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is the White House also announced they were extending the foreclosure moratorium for homeowners
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through June 30th this year. Also the mortgage payment for parents enrollment window until June 30th
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for borrowers and also providing up to six months of additional mortgage payment for
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for folks who had entered into it prior to June 30th of last year.
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So housing crisis is going to be really scary unless, you know, we really get some aids of folks.
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Now I saw the city of Miami is providing up to a year of backbriented utilities and mortgage payments for some of the residents.
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I think it's definitely needed. So that's it for me tonight. Thank you.
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Thank you. Commissioner.
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How are you, Anna?
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Commissioner Lassaro.
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I'd like to make an appointment
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to the sustainability and flood mitigation
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of Bruce Brottman.
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He did turn in his application.
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Sam's his driver's license,
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which he, I believe,
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City Clerk, if I'm not mistaken,
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he will send it a later date.
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Yes.
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So I'm going to make that appointment
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unless there's some opposition.
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Great.
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City Attorney, City Clerk, please send him the information, I had to appreciate it.
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City Manager, I know you mentioned that you didn't know about this, but I'm going to make a mention of it,
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because I know John Demarko sent a new mail that I also got another, from another resident who lives on Atlantic shores,
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regarding an odor that is coming off of the intercostal.
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I know you said you didn't know about it, but I believe that one of the DPW workers had some kind of vehicle.
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Or respondents, or employees, excuse me. Charles had some kind of a correspondence with a resident.
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So I think you should have been made aware of it. Maybe Mr. Odoms knew about it.
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But this should have been addressed by the city manager. If this is a office, if you guys were already contacted about it.
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So I'm disappointed to hear that. But I just wanted to let you know that.
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Mr. Nazarene, for a sec, if you don't want to?
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Yes, sir.
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No, I'm sorry, I'm waiting to help me sit in my room.
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So it's time to say, so there were some other...
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There were some other smells that some of the residents had around the marina.
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We've checked, I checked with our interim director of public works.
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Today, Mr. Owens is actually here with the report that hopefully will help.
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We've actually kept being tested in the waters.
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We've not found any issues in the water that we tested.
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So I'm going to ask the city clerk, if you would promote
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Mr. Odin's, so he can relate to the commission
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what he has related to being regard in this particular issue.
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Thank you.
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Why he's coming up?
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I want to share a complaint that I just received.
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And I don't know if it's tied to this.
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The resident called on Atlantic shores right around that same area, apparently there is a pump.
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Some kind of defect of pump on a Hollywood side that's been making noise and creating
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an issue.
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So, I just wanted to add that to the discussion because I was copied on the same email and
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And the other question was also in regards to diplomat, golf course who has been doing construction,
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but I don't know if it's due to the stagnated water over there because I know we've
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been trying to locate something, so I just wanted to add that.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Cityman.
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And I believe that we've contacted our colleagues in Hollywood regarding that, so we're
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hope in that they're working on that particular issue. Mr. Otones, could you update commissioner
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last row of the mayor and the other commissioners with some of what you all have done to
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date, and you're going to find this smell that our residents are reporting?
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Absolutely. City manager, good evening. I'm not a mayor and city commission. In reference to
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the issue at hand, there's a couple of things that we have begun to or should say continue
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to look into to investigate these circumstances.
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The first thing is we did some sampling in the area of the waterway to evaluate if we
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had any impacts or an invasion of Rossowich in any coastline in the area.
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This sample actually came back today.
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Of the five samples three of them show no indication whatsoever to the samples had low levels
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of what would be considered interior contact by samples which is the bacteria that she was
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for any intercostal relative to any kind of human waste or sanitary. However, the number is insignificant
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is the wrong choice of word. It's too low to be representative of an ongoing force main type
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issue. This is something, and additionally, this is not appearing or showing itself to be a
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continual issue. It's showing itself to be more of an intermittent issue. This is why we don't get
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complaint on a continual basis, but rather periodically in nature, this complaint comes in.
[3:23:44]
Right now, I'm moving to investigate further into the city to evaluate if someone potentially
[3:23:50]
is illegally dumping something into the storm system on a periodic basis that would line up
[3:23:56]
time-wise with what we're finding with the complaint. So that's where we are right now as far as
[3:24:02]
investigating. Of course, once we find this, if this is the case, we will take a
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appropriate action as far as environmental compliance finds and, and, and
[3:24:12]
litigation is necessary.
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Thank you.
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We also had this similar, I guess, similar complaint regarding the marina. We also checked
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there as well. We could not find any sewer leaks, folks were complain of a smell. We could
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not find anything at the marine either.
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But I just wanted the commission to know that staff was working
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on this issue that our residents know that we are testing
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the waters that we are doing.
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Everything we can to find this, and as you are from
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our director, Odams, and so we're going to continue doing so.
[3:24:47]
Mr. Odams, if I may, through city manager, could this be a
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lateral issue with one of the homes?
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Because when they're starting the pop up too, we just
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and that mess and I wanted to start.
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We're going to thank you later and discuss it, but with the latter roles in the Northeast.
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It is possible, ma'am, but unlikely at this time, again, because of the intermitted nature of the complaint.
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It's not something that we are seeing like every day, someone is complaining, you know, one day after the next ongoing.
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It seems to come and then dissipate, come and then dissipate, and a lateral issue would be more of a continued.
[3:25:26]
So, I'm not going to say it's absolutely out of the realm of possibility, it's just not
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high on the possibility line right?
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Right, yeah.
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I'm just thinking with the title levels and how close they are to intercostal that it might
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be subject to that.
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But we'll keep looking for it.
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I haven't gone out there to see it if it was smell like last email was like does this happen
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all the time?
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Daily.
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So, I'm sure with your expertise we'll figure that one way or another.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, City Manager.
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Commissioner Lazar.
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Anything else?
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Thank you, Commissioner.
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Commissioner Tom.
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Thank you.
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The 3D Mayor City Madam City Clerk.
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Do you have an application from Miss Irwin Lorenz for the
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Re Islands?
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Yep.
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You do?
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I do, Madam.
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But that is going to be discussed under the
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So I
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think we all received an email recently from a resident in Northwest Handel saying
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that, you know, his young daughter hides under the Fed
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and is very scared when she hears gunshots.
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So he has reached out, again, asking for help.
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A fear for, you know, his safety
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and the neighbor's safety doesn't want to come
[3:27:12]
to commission meetings, but he does feel
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like we are failing him and his family and failing the
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Northwest section of the city.
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You know, I've brought up statistics last year
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of violent crimes in the city and I was told
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you know, but other commissioners that I'm being
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hysterical and fear-mongering.
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But there are residents, this shouldn't be political.
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There are residents that are living in fear and are
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grade, you know, the violent crimes keep growing in.
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It's a matter of fact, I have a ring up on my phone.
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And sometimes the crime that are happening in the city,
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I get the alerts first via the ring out before I even hear about it from,
[3:28:09]
you know, PD or the city manager's office.
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I get these updates as the crimes are happening.
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But other residents are asking if they've heard gunshots or there was just stabbing
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or why is the helicopter up and so forth.
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So again, I'm going in for the City Manager's office to put a plan together.
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But really hold, you know, the police departments command staff, you know, and whoever's at the home.
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Not hold them responsible, but put together a plan, because we can't keep going week after week, month after month.
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the shootings are still taking place,
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that beings are still taking place.
[3:29:12]
You know, I know there was a resident in a last meeting
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that suggested maybe one-in, one way-in,
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one way out, the Northwest section,
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I don't even know if that's feasible.
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I don't know if that would create more trouble,
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but, you know, I would request,
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and I know you have so much going on,
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CM and so much to undertake,
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but we have an entire community that deserves
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to live in peace and to serve, to live in a dignified manner, and the truth of the
[3:29:43]
matter is that our system missioners, we live a very privileged life, especially for
[3:29:48]
the three out of five of us that have, you know, we have a police officer in our island
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from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. so it doesn't directly affect us.
[3:30:02]
But it's unacceptable, and this is, you know, it just, we need to, you know, figure out a plan, not only to attenuate, but also to a speech, the violent crime spree, particularly in the north-west side.
[3:30:22]
So, I don't know if that is in a form of a meeting city manager or you have to sit there and be tough and make some tough calls and some tough decisions and hold people accountable.
[3:30:37]
But I think the time to be proactive with last year and here you are now, it's a new CM.
[3:30:46]
So I am, I am requesting and pleading of you to hear the pleas and cries of people that
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live in Northwest Palindale.
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You know, I can tell you that when I walked Northwest last year, as we were walking, I heard
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the gunshots and the one of the young gentlemen that was there with me that lives in
[3:31:12]
question. He's like, yep, Annabelle, this is the norm and proceeded to explain how it's like
[3:31:19]
the territory thing. It was in the afternoon, so it was a bunch of kinds of like, you know,
[3:31:24]
territory like these two blocks belong to us, those two blocks belong to the other party.
[3:31:31]
I find use condoms is disgusting. I'm glad people are using condoms, but to see them, but to see them
[3:31:38]
on this story.
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It's okay.
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To see them on this street is, you know, disgusting, and the majority of us don't have to
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live that way.
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And, you know, we can have our kids, so there's a person have kids, and have kids go play
[3:31:53]
out, play outside, and not have to worry about seeing, you know, use condoms on the street.
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People writing their ATVs, like crazy, not adhering to the laws.
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It's like, it's like, walllessness, no law in order in Northwest.
[3:32:10]
You know,
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people deserve better, so you know, I am like I told you, I'll give you, I'll give you time, but a year from now if we're still having the same discussion, you know, I'm going to be very frustrated.
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Right, right, I completely understand
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commissioning what I'm, if I may just real quick
[3:32:32]
or I don't want to interrupt you.
[3:32:36]
So just so that you know and the residents know,
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there are increased patrols.
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So the officers have been doing a great job
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in terms of visibility.
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I have asked Chief Canione and she can speak to that.
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Deputy Chief, Michael, Michael last week
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that I want a very, as a residents of also requested, by the way, a heavier police presence
[3:33:02]
at the intersections throughout the neighborhoods, and so just to let you know, that is really
[3:33:09]
where a lot of our over time is going, right?
[3:33:13]
So just to let you know that we are putting the resources to do in this, and we're going to continue
[3:33:17]
to do this.
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I really want to work with the parking safety boards as well, so that we have resident, so that
[3:33:24]
We have the resident to purchase a patient and buy into the things that need to happen.
[3:33:29]
So for example, when you tell me that you're seeing use condoms on the street, that's
[3:33:35]
less of a police issue to me and more of an issue of partnerships that we need to make
[3:33:41]
in the community as well.
[3:33:43]
And so we are committed to doing that and we're committed to providing the resources
[3:33:48]
to the officers that they can do their jobs.
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But, yes, we take this very seriously commissioning the top.
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I hear you, and I've heard the residents there reached out to me as well.
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And, you know, it's going to be a balance in act because,
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you know, when you're sometimes when you're too heavy-handed, folks believe that you are,
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you know, you're purposefully singing them out.
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However, there are challenges that we need to meet.
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And that's why I have directed,
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directed our chief and staff to do the very best that they can to not only enforce the law but to be very, very, very, very visible and now on the back end we are working on the tools that they need that we didn't even anticipate last year.
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So, you know, they will get to tools that will tell us exactly where gunshots are being fired
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and we'll get to trace that so we can respond to those kinds of things.
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I wish I had all the answers but I appreciate your patience and just know that yes,
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we are going to be addressing these things.
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And we've already started to address these things, but I hear you. And I commit that we will continue to do what we can to address the issues that we haven't enough.
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Thank you. If I might just follow up on the big condoms comment, there's a prostitution.
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There's a prostitution, where there's prostitution, there's also drugs, thousands, so police, so it is a police matter, I'm not talking about the health issues, but it is a police matter when there's open prostitution and open drug dealing going on and so the two kind of, you know, synonymous with each other, so okay, so I'll leave that at your house.
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You know, hands right now and hopefully in a few months from now or, you know, next year we're not having the same discussion, but rather about, you know, how we've managed three or
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direction to attenuate and to switch the violent crime rates in Calendale.
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If I made it for you, there won't be just a second.
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Just for, you know, this has been on all of our minds and it was interesting between
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the count, whole last night and people making sure particularly in past under-saved areas,
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The residents that live there want protection and they want to make sure we're there.
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So I think we have partners and we need to build in that partnership.
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If I may suggest, then I'd even volunteer to go out with an officer to really start maybe going
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door to door and putting a flyer, introducing themselves.
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We can't have a large gathering right now and do those types of things because of COVID.
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But there's no reason why we can't reassure the people in the neighborhoods that were there.
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we're here to serve, these are the numbers,
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and get some information out there,
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especially in the particular areas where we know
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there's probably crime.
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Because I know we can't have a police officer on every block.
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And I think in one of the cases,
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the police officers were downing it through another call
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when there was an actual, you know,
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so they're there.
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But maybe it's really gathering that partnership.
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It's hard to do it on Zoom.
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This heart, you know, we used to have a lot of meetings. We'd have the pastors alliance. We would have town halls and the black parties
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So baby that is like a good old fashioned way to let people know we are there and we're watching
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Just food for thought and I'm not joking. I need the exercise
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I went mind walking again and going out again walking with some of our finest here in Hell and Dale Beach
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So thank you
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Go ahead, Commissioner Tom, I'm sorry.
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No, no, that's okay.
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You know, and just as a last note to that, you know,
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our patrol officers are incredible.
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And they really want to be, you know,
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I just think that there's so many challenges.
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So, you know, just a shout-out to our patrol officers
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and, you know, our police department.
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It's not a slide at them.
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It's just, you know, we have issues.
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So, and we can do better job, but okay, moving on to the next item is, you know, my family and I are very conscientious about circulating our dollars in how into LVH.
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So, other than just, you know, going into the pharmacy and public, we really try to support the small business owners.
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And, you know, also for myself, recognize business owners, or community personnel, so to speak that.
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Do a great job and are very kind to our residents.
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those in example, we had Dr. Ferman today.
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But there is a dentist and his wife that
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has a small practice in Hollywood, and I just
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recently learned that they have provided free dental care
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to some of our residents in lower income areas.
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And, you know, they have not charged for major dental procedures, that one's not twice, but, you know, a good amount of time.
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So I would like to give them a recognition and have...
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The commission, in myself, sponsor, Asia to forget of appreciation for them. They are a small dental practice.
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And so hopefully it could give them the recognition that they deserve, but it's also a thank you for us as a commission for their benevolence and kindness that they show on our residents they need.
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So I would like to sponsor a certificate of appreciation may or if you'd like to sponsor that with me, the other commissioners wanted to post sponsor it with me.
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I don't care who sponsor is. As long as we recognize them, the dentist name is Dr. Ilya Freiburg, and they're located in Hollywood around young circle.
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So I don't know if we do that enough form of emotion or I think so. Is that the policy?
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Yeah, form of emotion. I make emotion and open to co-sponsors.
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So it would be from this city. It's a proof that we would all support it.
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I know that it's a lot on the agenda usually is sponsored by so it's I could be sponsored by all of us myself, whoever would like to join in, make a motion to sponsor a certificate of appreciation to Dr.
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lower income resident, particularly, particularly during COVID times. Yeah, that's that all second it.
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Um, could I have a roll call, please?
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Yeah, Mayor Butler. Yes.
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I'm sure I'm having Anna. Yes.
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Yes.
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Commissioner Lazarum.
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Yes.
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Yes. Yeah. Can you help me? Can you help me?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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But I'm here for her.
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What do you mean?
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I'm here for her.
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Thank you.
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And if that's it.
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I'm sure I don't know if you, I'm with Ms. Arlene Lorenz.
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I know she's both of, you know, my neighbor, your neighbor.
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So, I don't know if you wanted to point her in fact that you had perhaps forgotten.
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Um, so if for the three I'm meeting if you'd like to, you know, make sure you please comment.
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I don't care who appoints her on the she's pointed.
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Um, so that's it for me.
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Um, thank you to staff for a great, you know, job as per usual.
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Thank you.
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Thank you to Commissioner by Mayor Butler.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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I'm going to withhold my comments for our next meeting just in the interest of time.
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So I will hold those off for our March meeting.
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Thank you, Matt.
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Right.
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And I have a few, not as much a last time.
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I will first start off.
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I have a question.
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And I know, at the time she was by Sarah Havianna,
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I had brought up the young lady
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that had actually wanted to really get involved
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in different organizations.
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Our beach preservation board.
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Is that just limited to the beach?
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I don't know. Can somebody answer that question?
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We have a sustainability board as well.
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Okay, but I don't know. Is there openings on that board?
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There are openings on the sustainability board, yes.
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Madam Mayor for me.
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Yes, go ahead.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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There's just been trying to get through the front.
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There are three vacancies for the beach preservation.
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And for the sustainability, there's one, two, three, four.
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The beach though, and I'm just asking about the beach because of her expertise if you recall
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She and that's like the first word that she listed. I guess unless they're in alphabetical order
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I guess, but she seems like she would lend herself to that bullet really well, and that's just limited to a one-a
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correct or no
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No, Mayor, it's I'm I'm sorry
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you're going to respond?
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Sure, if you want to come in.
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So I remember correcting the, you know,
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fed it up.
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It was, um, given, giving preference to anyone that lives on the water.
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It has a thick,
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A week of actually living on the water, but it's not just an A1A, so any one moving on the water for at the city could apply and be appointed, but it's certainly, if you have someone that you think would serve well and has expertise, I'd more than open to it, considering that we have a couple of openings.
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All right. Well, there's one application. There's actually a couple applications and two because I'm getting this one mixed up. There's an order to make go that meet would like to serve on the beach preservation board.
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And I'll make that appointment. We have the application.
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There's no objection.
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So
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I really want to try to keep that to people that are that is that one person is ocean dry.
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Okay, but there's another young lady too. So she is right on ocean drive
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So do you make motion? Yeah, I don't you have a second
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Okay, we don't need that because it's my appointment. Oh, yes. Oh, we need to fill some of my appoints
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I'm sorry. I thought we we vote on appointment for
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Only when they're at large
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Okay, perfect. Sorry
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Okay, by May, there's actually one vacancy for the Beach Preservation Board for
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AmeriCorps and there's actually two at large for the Beach Preservation Board.
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Yeah, there was another kind of lady.
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I don't know if Commissioner Havayana remembers her names.
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Where's her location?
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If I may met a mayor?
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Yes.
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There's this young lady, Gabriela.
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Right.
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She's 130 gold in Alstraif.
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Right.
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And she's on the water.
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Can I view I sent lines we'd rather I'd rather that one
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I will move her for the at large
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What who I thought she has her sustainability as the first
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Word
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Okay, why have a couple appointments and I was very impressed with her application and I think I I even I don't know if I've reached out to her
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But if I have an opening on that, I don't have a problem with the cleaning her to that as well, but let's she can be on too. She wants
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Yes, the max is too. I know we have you can see one sitting in the morning.
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There you do have an iphone. Oh, yeah, no, I have it that too.
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Okay, well, I'll call. She wanted to serve. Do you know how do you know her commissioner? How about Anna?
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I talked to her. She wasn't interested in being on one of the boards, but I don't have any open appointments.
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Okay, but you don't know. She went necessarily serve on two. I don't know about that, but I think she's deeply was preference.
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Okay. Well, let me, I'm going to point her to the sustainability tonight. I'll hold off on that at large.
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Or the beach.
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And so I get a chance to call her myself.
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So instead of saying each you'll be appointing her under your appointment for the sustainability correct
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Madam for a guy be in the right right and that's to be continued. Okay, and there's no need for a second. This is your
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Okay, and that's all I have for that right now. Yep. Okay. Good. Thank you. Commissioner Maynland. Okay. Why I had
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Ms. Mike? No, I'll save it. I'll save it. It's all the very
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I need to make a motion, which is even part of my protocol stuff.
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I was approached to do a proclamation at an event for this 29th anniversary, and I'm going
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but you're this name.
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It's the conflict between Armenia and Arjo Bonning.
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It won't come back to the commission,
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but according to our protocol,
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I cannot issue a proclamation
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without a motion and approval of this commission.
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So I'm gonna move to request a proclamation
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to be submitted to this organization.
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I can have a motion of a second.
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Could I have a roll call?
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That's fair butler. Yes. I'm in to have a yellow. Yes. I'm in to a laser.
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I'm in to leave the top. Yeah.
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Merry Cooper. Yes. Thank you madam. I'm going to take care of the guys here. Right.
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I thought a letter that I received actually from the captain of the U.S. Coast Guard commander section in Miami.
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And it, after reading the letter, it was a congratulatory letter for being elected, which was very nice, and an invitation for us to go on a tour at our leisure.
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But the more I read it, my thoughts came to the fact that this organization has both all kind of active duty, reserve, and our sugary members that may be able, I'm going to ask the city manager if you had a chance to think about it.
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get a chance to give you a letter yet because I haven't been in an office to research them to see if they would be available for higher for a marine patrol.
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Rather than using arch-traditional police patrol. Would you need a motion to research that?
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I spoke to Acting Chief Michael last week about this.
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There would be some jurisdictional issues and other issues that would make that very challenging.
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So yes, I actually, when you had mentioned it to me, actually immediately went out to see what that would be.
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There are some challenges because the Coast Guard deals with certain waterways.
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It's certainly our waterways.
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So again, there's some jurisdictional challenges that are there.
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because it actually says they actually respond to security along the way, I believe.
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Well, would it be possible or not possible?
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Because I'm just table it then.
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Is it possible that we could make a request to researches?
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Um, let me, let me continue to look into it.
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Um, and I'll get back with you later.
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As of right now, I would say it is not possible.
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Okay.
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Because let me, let me, let me make some more calls and look into it some more and I'll get back with it.
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Right. And then maybe, or it's something maybe that we could see to research if we have somebody that, if they're
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know that's a retired that has, has done this, they might be able to be trained and hired to do
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the Marine Patrol rather than a quote unquote police patrol officer because I know we're short on them.
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understand what I'm saying so you don't need a motion or anything to do you know I'll just
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okay okay thank you um the other question I have and I'm sure everybody else has been hearing
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and I know Commissioner Butler has on from gold miles and I'm sure you guys are hearing it
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in three islands about a lot of these race cars with loud mufflers and the noises and I'm
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getting them from people and actually that we're apologizing to even complain because they don't
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complain about those things and rarely complain. But they're being especially like on three
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islands full of art now too. And I know I'm hearing them in the neighborhood. And I don't
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know what is the rules and regulations for these lab vehicles. If there are any, and if there
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are some way that we can address it, because there are some of them are deafening, they're
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waking people. If they can't even sit in their backyards, and it's, I'd like some research
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on it or something to see what we can do.
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Let me ask her, Chief Kenyoun, and she's actually on.
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Chief Kenyoun is, have you all addressed as an, and how, how will you address this issue
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with the past?
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Chief Kenyoun is.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, CM.
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CM, I'm here.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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We've had that concern recently and in the past as well, from residents along 14th
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or throughout the city, where they hear loud mufflers.
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The concern would be is catching them in the act.
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Because by the time we get there, we get the call to respond.
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By the time we get there, the vehicle is gone.
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And then there's been other times that we respond.
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And we hear vehicle.
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But it's just like a heavy engine or some kind of loud roar of an engine.
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So it is a challenge to try to pinpoint to see exactly what's going on, okay, but there is a rule in regulation that you cannot do that.
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And it's just a matter of how much you said catching them in that.
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I was trying to find out exactly, and I would have to look at the statute again as to exactly the noise.
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Ultimately, we do have a noise ordinance to the city that any loud noise that's disturbing the residents, then that could be addressed.
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You know, I've asked this in the past two, especially even with speeding.
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I know that we put the speed trailer sop.
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And I don't know what the LPR is.
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Is there any way maybe as a preventative measure that if a resident heard this car and
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like took a picture of the license plate or a video.
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I mean, everybody has cell phone cameras.
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If they get a license and you have a video submitted to you,
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is there any way to send a letter or track the driver?
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and you know
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Say, you've been witnessed speeding, or your car is in making excessive noise that it needs to be corrected.
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Are any of our agencies doing that, or is that legally possible?
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I know that we have to research that mayor, because right now the license plate readers are to detect any crimes related to the tag, any stolen tag, stolen registrations,
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one person's and of course we know that we have red light cameras in other areas regarding
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the speeding or excuse me the the running the red lights okay interesting just spoof
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report I don't you know I want to respond back to these residents and the frustration that
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they have so it is illegal it's catching them in the act if you could research and like I said
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even for speeding like a courtesy warning you know I know you can't issue necessarily the ticket
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from the LPR, but it'd be interesting if residents can say,
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what was this car, this license plate, and just warn them.
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But Mayor, just to confirm, I will verify the data,
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the information, the specific statute,
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and I'll get back to the manager through the window
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at the noise ordinance, but I will check on the state statute
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regarding the opal's great.
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And you just did the interim.
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I got a call, and I know, because of COVID,
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and this is a good thing.
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There's always good and bad in everything. So many people are walking. So many are people are out there on the street
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Apparently someone was hit at the crime. I don't know the date or at the time
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But somebody was hit from Prince George crossing the street at our beach and people are running that red light
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We do have red light cameras here still because I you know
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I've always been a proponent for them because to me it was more about not just cars
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But pedestrians and bikes and people's awareness is safety and
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This other couple again, they had they were almost
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They're from the same building was almost hit because people are just not going. They're just blown that light down there on the beach
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Yes, I just
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It's interesting you're bringing this up because I had this exact conversation with the city manager
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to go.
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And the question with the City Manager and the City Manager, I think it
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already responded is that, you know, how do we address the issue where we have traffic coming
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through Golden Beach that drives the speed limit, but as soon as they hit the Halendale property
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line, they speed up. And I think that as part of our overall traffic issue, one of it is
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to try to get more of the people who come through Halandale to follow our speed limits and follow
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the things like running red lights. So I agree with you that we do at some point need to ramp up
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enforcement. I recognize that that's going to take some time. But I know that I had brought up
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the exact same thing. I'm asking the city manager to consider it as something that we'd like to
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implement this year at some point.
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So if I'm hearing you right, you've had the same conversation in regards to strategically
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placed red light cameras to prevent safety.
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I came out of a direction instead of red light cameras, it was just the more traffic
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enforcement on our city streets.
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Okay.
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And again, going back, I am a fan of technology and a fan of, you know, because you cannot
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have a police officer there.
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Um, if you want to make a motion or I'll make a motion to have staff research the whole
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Chava and bring it back to us.
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If you like, yes, ma'am, I just wanted to interject you.
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We are still in litigation for our previous, we're like, I'm going to be kidding me.
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Yes.
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Yes, I know.
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I have a child still.
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Every other child that's younger than this litigation is terrible and because I'm still
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an auditor, they're in Pembroke Pines, they're in every other location. I just thought it was from
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the previous, we were one of them the way was implemented. Yeah. Yeah, it was. We were one of the first
[3:59:21]
cities to be sued over that, and actually the litigation for almost everyone else was cleared up,
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had the Supreme Court level, but because of the way that this city implemented it, it didn't
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cover us. So now we're trying, we've had to wait for this to get cleared up on all these other cases
[3:59:39]
for us and we're trying now to get a ruling that pertains to us but it's just has not been
[3:59:47]
easy to do that. Okay, even with that rolling in place we can still go ahead and create a new program.
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Yeah, I just recommend mayor that we
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Allow the city manager, the space that he needs in consideration of the massive budget challenges that he's dealing with, to figure this out.
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Because I hate to give mandates when you don't have money to do the basics.
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right well I know I and I don't even know how they're rolling out these programs still
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if they were doing it the way in the past that it was actually implemented
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because they did it plus it was like a shared thing so they covered the
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infrastructure I don't know if you're aware about the whole program but I hear
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you at least they're hearing it now from two of us I don't know if anybody else
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wants to chime in but thank thank you for that and I'll talk offline with our
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the attorney on the other issue. And I think that was it. That was the easy. That was my
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communication. Thank you commissioner. City attorney. Well, I have no communication
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but I just say on that on that one issue. If you all would like, I can have Wyseroda is the front
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of the purpose of the city on that litigation and has been since 2010. Oh, I'll call him and say,
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I can't get this closed out already. It's three different, everybody else has been.
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It shows me a lot of money many, many times. And there's a reason, there's a reason.
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They're not being neglectful of this case. It really has not been within their power to do that.
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We've given the state of the other litigation in that matter.
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So I will do as I will arrange for a status report of memo detailing what the state of the law is
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related to our litigation because that's something you all should be aware of anyway.
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I do have one from last year, but I have a motif for this year.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, City Attorney.
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City Manager.
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I'm sorry.
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I forgot some.
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I want to remind everybody on Friday.
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Upper deck is going to be hosting a meet and greet with the heroes of
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Sasha and
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For every donation they, they're helping me sponsor, well, I'm going to pay for it.
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But every drink, don't get a free drink or something like that.
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But please share that post and share the information with everyone as well as try to speak
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to your partners and animal lovers and all that to try to get funds raised for our toast.
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And on Friday at three o'clock, there will be a, and I think it was a publicly
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notice meeting,
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Mr. Hannings, this Thomas Budman, will be on a Zoom call and meet and greet,
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so you can share that as well. On Friday, Commissioner Taube, you'll be on deck to discuss
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your ordinance and I hope you all join in. Sorry, go ahead, CM.
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Sorry about that. I was on mute. Actually, no announcements for me tonight. I appreciate it very much.
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Um, there was one thing I had to confirm with the city clerk, however, and was there a
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population?
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Um, for the collagee, or sometimes probably saying it.
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It was a proof.
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Sam, thank you.
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Okay.
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I was going to make sure that that was okay.
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Thank you.
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That's it for me.
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I kept forgetting.
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And I forgot it was waiting.
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All right.
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Thank you very much.
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That's it.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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Meeting adjourned with faith.
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Sit tight.
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Okay.
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I'm going to call the order.
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The special meeting, I just want to do three-eyed.