[0:20] Good evening. I will now call

[0:21] to order the City County

[0:22] Council meeting for Monday,

[0:26] JULY 6, 2026. Begin meeting

[0:28] with a prayer and pledge of

[0:29] allegiance led by my father

[0:36] reverently Lewis Jr that. The

[0:45] brawl. Parade. Grace of GOD.

[0:48] Our Heavenly father, thank you

[0:51] for a lot of us assembled in

[0:52] this room. Thank you for those

[0:55] voices that would be heard.

[0:55] We've got a choice. The best

[0:58] upon each one of spirit living

[1:00] golf ball. Fresh upon meeting.

[1:04] Move was a sick us that we

[1:04] might be the the children you

[1:08] calling for the last days. And

[1:09] we should remember to give you

[1:10] all glory on the increase in

[1:18] Jesus name, a a United States

[1:21] of America and to love it for

[1:25] it stands. One nation under

[1:26] GOD, indivisible, with liberty

[1:37] and justice for all. Thanks

[1:38] that I was a little nervous

[1:40] that's Baptiste. And if you

[1:40] know, got to stay like that

[1:43] for really long The next item

[1:44] on our agenda, roll call,

[1:46] please in the so that the

[1:46] green button to indicate your

[1:53] attendance. There are 24

[1:55] members present. CHAIRMAN

[1:57] Boots asked to be excused this

[1:59] evening. The next item on our

[2:00] agenda is introduction of

[2:01] guests and visitors. Councilor

[2:06] Gibson. MADAM Chair. I wish

[2:07] welcome our former COUNCILMAN

[2:15] Scott Keller. Additionally

[2:19] Introduction Council Brown.

[2:19] Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT, I

[2:22] would like to recognize all of

[2:22] that. Constituents have come

[2:23] here with their signs

[2:23] proposing a data center

[2:34] moratorium. CHAIRWOMAN

[2:35] McCormick. Hi, thank you. I

[2:36] don't know if I missed anybody

[2:37] else peer into the crowd, but

[2:38] I see our trusty from packed

[2:49] township, Annette Johnson.

[2:49] CHAIRMAN Robinson, MADAM

[2:50] PRESIDENT, as anyone

[2:51] acknowledge our former vice

[2:51] PRESIDENT's that comes with

[2:56] it. Vice PRESIDENT Adams.

[2:57] Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT, a

[3:01] pleasure. Now proceed to

[3:02] official communications. MADAM

[3:05] Clerk. Thank you. MADAM

[3:07] PRESIDENT, ladies and

[3:08] gentlemen, you are hereby

[3:08] notified the regular meetings

[3:11] of the city County Council

[3:12] Police Fire and Solid waste

[3:15] Collection. Special service

[3:17] district councils will be held

[3:18] in the city county building in

[3:20] the public Assembly room on

[3:21] Monday, 7/6/2026, it's 7

[3:25] o'clock pm the purposes of

[3:26] such meetings being to conduct

[3:28] any and all business that MAY

[3:29] come properly before regular

[3:32] meetings of the council's

[3:33] sincerely, Louis, PRESIDENT

[3:38] City County Council. Ladies

[3:39] and gentlemen percent pursuant

[3:41] to the laws of the state of

[3:42] Indiana. I caused be published

[3:44] in the court commercial record

[3:45] and in the Indianapolis star

[3:48] on Friday, JUNE, 12th 2026 a

[3:50] copy of Notice of Public

[3:53] hearing proposal numbers. One.

[3:58] 24 one. 63 1.88 in 2, 0, 6,

[4:00] 2026 said hearing to be held

[4:04] on Monday, 7/6/2026 and 7

[4:05] o'clock pm. And the Public

[4:07] Assembly room of the city

[4:09] County building on Friday,

[4:13] 6/19/2026. Copy of Notice of

[4:14] Public hearing proposal.

[4:18] Number 2, 0, 8, 2026 said here

[4:20] hearing to be held on Monday,

[4:23] JULY 13th 2026 at 05:30pm, and

[4:24] the Public Assembly room of

[4:27] the city County building.

[4:29] Ladies and gentlemen, I have

[4:30] approved with my signature and

[4:31] delivered this data. The clerk

[4:33] of the City County Council,

[4:35] Yolanda Winfield, the

[4:36] following ordinances, fiscal

[4:39] ordinance numbers 5 through

[4:40] 15, 2026 general ordinance

[4:44] numbers 40 41 2026 special

[4:45] ordinance numbers. 4 through

[4:50] 6. 2026 and special

[4:52] resolution. Number 13, 2026

[4:55] Joseph h Hawks. It Mayor MADAM

[4:56] PRESIDENT. This concludes the

[4:59] official communications. Thank

[5:01] you, MADAM Counselors for your

[5:02] convenience. They are

[5:03] sugar-free and that free

[5:04] cookies in the back. We're

[5:04] going to be here just a tad

[5:07] bit longer than normal. So

[5:08] again, feel free to jump up

[5:09] and grab keys as shoes. So see

[5:13] fit the next I to moderate it

[5:14] on our agenda is the adoption

[5:19] of the agenda happen. Set.

[5:19] Proceed to approve of journals

[5:20] for JUNE. First 2026. To have

[5:25] consent. But proceeded

[5:26] presentations at petitions for

[5:27] miles special resolutions and

[5:27] council resolutions proposal.

[5:30] Number 2, 2, 3 introduced by

[5:45] Leader Evans.

[5:49] Take the place.

[6:03] The Center for men. Good

[6:04] evening. Tonight, we recognize

[6:06] one of Indianapolis is most

[6:08] accomplished native daughters.

[6:11] Janet Fleenor born in 18 92.

[6:12] She became one of the founding

[6:14] writers of The New Yorker and

[6:16] spent more than 50 years as it

[6:18] celebrated. Paris

[6:19] correspondent earning

[6:21] international acclaim and

[6:21] France's prestigious Legion of

[6:24] honor. Counts or I don't know

[6:28] French side. Thanks to the

[6:29] district's theater's

[6:31] production on. They call me

[6:33] Janet Indianapolis has the

[6:35] opportunity to rediscover her

[6:35] extraordinary legacy. It is my

[6:37] honor to present this

[6:40] resolution in recognition of

[6:40] Janet Flanders. Remarkable

[6:43] life and contributions. A

[6:44] special resolution celebrating

[6:46] the life legacy in

[6:48] Indianapolis roots of Janet

[6:50] planner internationally

[6:51] acclaimed journalist, author

[6:54] and cultural correspondent,

[6:55] whereas Janet Flare was born

[6:56] in Indianapolis, Indiana in

[6:58] 18, 92 and began her writing

[7:00] career in her home town before

[7:01] embarking on a path that would

[7:03] make her one of the most

[7:04] influential journalist of the

[7:11] 20th century and where us.

[7:12] Whereas writing under the pen

[7:13] name Jean, a flatter, became

[7:13] one of the founding voices of

[7:16] The New Yorker magazine and

[7:18] served as its Paris

[7:19] correspondents more than 50

[7:20] years helping generations of

[7:21] Americans better understand

[7:22] the culture, politics

[7:23] literature and artistic life

[7:27] of your and whereas celebrated

[7:29] letter from Paris Collins

[7:31] planner conduct chronicled

[7:32] major historical events,

[7:33] artistic movements and

[7:35] cultural figures of the 20th

[7:36] century, establishing herself

[7:37] as one of America's most

[7:39] respected leader leader in us

[7:42] and if our past to file note,

[7:43] 8 Butler talking in a district

[7:47] 7 resident As in recognition

[7:48] of her extraordinary

[7:49] contributions to journalism

[7:50] and French culture, life

[7:53] Fleenor was awarded the title

[7:56] of so beware of the Legion day

[7:57] on wonderful I don't speak

[8:00] French either. One of France's

[8:02] France's highest civilian

[8:03] honors and whereas Fleenor

[8:04] also demonstrated personal

[8:07] courage by living openly with

[8:09] in Paris's Expo artistic and

[8:11] lgbtq+ communities during the

[8:13] period with such freedom was

[8:15] was often unavailable to many

[8:17] Americans leaving a lasting

[8:19] legacy of often to city

[8:20] inclusion and cultural

[8:26] progress and where is Jennifer

[8:27] enters Indianapolis? Remove

[8:28] routes remain an important

[8:30] part of her story and her

[8:31] achievements stand as a

[8:32] reminder of the profound

[8:33] impact that individuals for

[8:35] this city here have had on a

[8:36] national, an international

[8:40] coach or cultural and public

[8:41] life. And whereas the Flanders

[8:42] families contributions to

[8:44] Indianapolis extend beyond

[8:45] journalism through the

[8:45] establishment of flat or house

[8:48] by her father DR. Frank w

[8:50] Planner creating a lasting

[8:53] legacy of community service,

[8:54] education and opportunity for

[8:54] generations of Indianapolis

[8:56] residents. And whereas the

[8:57] District Theatre's production

[9:01] of they call me Janet offers

[9:02] Indianapolis and opportunity

[9:03] to rediscover and celebrate

[9:05] one of its most accomplished

[9:06] native daughters in her

[9:08] enduring contributions to

[9:10] journalism, literature and

[9:11] international understanding

[9:12] now, therefore, be it resolved

[9:13] by the City County Council of

[9:14] the City of Indianapolis and

[9:16] Marion County, Indiana,

[9:18] Section one, the Indianapolis

[9:20] City Council proudly

[9:21] recognizes and celebrates the

[9:22] life achievements and enduring

[9:25] legacy of Janet Flatter whose

[9:27] work elevated the standards of

[9:28] journalism and in rich

[9:29] cultural understanding

[9:29] throughout the world. Section

[9:33] 2, the council Cummins, the

[9:34] District theater in all those

[9:34] involved in the production of

[9:37] the college in it preserving

[9:38] and sharing the story of this

[9:40] remarkable Indianapolis native

[9:41] section 3. The council

[9:43] encourages residents of

[9:45] Indianapolis to learn more

[9:45] about Janet Flanders

[9:47] contributions to journalism,

[9:50] literature, culture and

[9:50] international understanding

[9:51] and take pride in her enduring

[9:54] connection to the city of

[9:55] Indianapolis. Section 4, a

[9:55] copy of this resolution shall

[9:59] be presented. 2

[10:00] representatives of the

[10:01] District Theater in

[10:01] recognition of their efforts

[10:03] to celebrate and preserve the

[10:07] legacy, Janet, I so move, I

[10:08] think been properly moved.

[10:08] And second, all those in favor

[10:12] signify by saying Aye. Those

[10:13] opposed same sign the motion

[10:15] carries that the speaker.

[10:16] Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT, at

[10:17] this time, I'd like to invite

[10:17] 2 former members of the

[10:20] council to share a few remarks

[10:23] representing both side of the

[10:24] aisle. Please welcome former

[10:24] council vice PRESIDENT And

[10:26] District Theater board member

[10:27] Zach Adamson and former

[10:29] Republican counter Scott

[10:30] Keller as they join us in

[10:31] celebrating the remarkable

[10:33] legacy of one of Indianapolis

[10:34] is most distinguished native

[10:36] daughters, Jennifer and her.

[10:43] Thank you. Evans and thank you

[10:44] to my former colleagues here

[10:47] in the council. For

[10:48] recognizing the extraordinary

[10:49] legacy. Jane Atlanta, on

[10:52] behalf of myself, former

[10:54] counsel Scott Keller, the

[10:55] District Theater. We are

[10:55] honored that Indianapolis is

[10:57] taking this opportunity to

[10:58] celebrate one of its most

[11:01] remarkable native daughters,

[11:02] the District Theater believes

[11:04] that these that great theater

[11:05] does more than just entertain.

[11:07] It shines a light on voices

[11:08] that history has too often

[11:10] overlooked or forgotten. 2 new

[11:13] works like they call me Jean,

[11:15] a and through our incubators

[11:16] for African-American and

[11:17] Latino Arts communities

[11:19] designed specifically for and

[11:21] buy those members of the

[11:22] community. We strive to tell

[11:23] stories that reflect the full

[11:26] richness of our city. So thank

[11:27] you for helping to ensure that

[11:28] Jeff Linder story and so many

[11:31] others continue to be sold.

[11:32] And with that, I will turn it

[11:35] over to Scott Keller. If you

[11:38] wish for information, you can

[11:39] look at chance Planner dot

[11:43] com. Thank you for this honor.

[11:46] I'll leave you an observation.

[11:48] My ancestor, Frank planner

[11:51] hired Booker t Washington to

[11:51] come around flat or house and

[11:54] manage. Well, he could not

[11:58] stay downtown hotel. So we

[11:59] stayed with the family of 40

[12:03] 61 North Illinois. What genell

[12:07] planners favorite perch was on

[12:08] his lap. Thank you. Thank you.

[12:12] And I've got a soccer game.

[12:28] Yeah. So it is. The the next

[12:29] item on our agenda proposal.

[12:30] Number one, 61 refer to admin

[12:31] and Finance Committee CHAIRMAN

[12:34] Miscarry. Thank you. Madam

[12:37] President, the proposal one 61

[12:39] points Mariee Allen to equal

[12:41] out the Equal Opportunity

[12:42] Advisory board out of the

[12:43] community and there. I so

[12:47] move. And most properly moved

[12:48] and seconded. Other comments

[12:50] from counselors. Seeing no

[13:04] proceed to the board votes.

[13:05] This proposal, number 3.75,

[13:06] refer to public safety and

[13:07] criminal Justice Committee.

[13:12] Assistant Chair Alan. Thank

[13:13] you, MADAM PRESIDENT proposal.

[13:15] Number 3.75, appoints and

[13:16] ensure into the juvenile

[13:17] Detention Center advisory

[13:20] board to pass Bo 11 to 0. So

[13:22] so the motion improperly

[13:22] moved. And second, other

[13:24] comments will counselors?

[13:25] Santa proceed to the board for

[13:35] a vote? The proposal carries

[13:37] 24 to 0 the next item on our

[13:39] agenda proposal. Number one,

[13:39] 87 refer to public safety and

[13:40] criminal Justice Committee.

[13:44] Assistant Chair Alan, thank

[13:45] you. MADAM PRESIDENT proposed

[13:48] a number one, 87 2026 appoint

[13:48] Alexis Hatcher to the juvenile

[13:50] Detention Center advisory

[13:53] board. Do pass vote 11 to 0. I

[13:54] so the most of properly moved.

[13:55] And second, other comments

[13:57] counselors. Seeing proceed to

[14:05] the board for a vote. The

[14:07] proposal carries 24 to 0. The

[14:08] next item on our agenda is

[14:09] introductions of proposals.

[14:12] MADAM Clerk. Thank you. MADAM

[14:17] PRESIDENT. Proposal, number 2,

[14:19] that 2, 0, 8, 2026 introduced

[14:21] by Council near son and refer

[14:23] to the administration and

[14:25] Finance Committee elects to

[14:26] allow certain employees to

[14:27] participate in the public

[14:30] Employees Retirement Fund as

[14:31] administered by the Indiana

[14:36] Public Retirement System.

[14:37] Proposal. Number 2, 0, 9, 2026

[14:39] introduced by Council Ali

[14:41] Brown and referred to

[14:42] community Affairs reappoint

[14:44] Amy Carol, to the public Art

[14:44] for Neighborhood selection

[14:48] committee. The following

[14:48] proposals or refer to the

[14:50] Metropolitan Economic

[14:51] Development Committee

[14:54] proposal. Number 2.37, 2026

[14:56] introduced by counselor Jesse

[14:57] Brown request that the

[15:00] Indianapolis Department of

[15:01] Metropolitan Development, it

[15:03] eliminates parking minimums

[15:03] within the city of

[15:04] Indianapolis and Marion

[15:09] County. Proposal. Number to 3,

[15:11] 8, 2026 introduced by

[15:13] COUNCILMAN Lewis amends

[15:15] chapter 7, 4, 0, through 202,

[15:22] dash, 202, 7, 4, 2 dash, 109,

[15:24] and table 7, 4, 3, dash, 208,

[15:27] dash, one of the consolidated

[15:28] Zoning and Subdivision Control

[15:29] ordinance of the Indianapolis

[15:30] Marion County, Indiana,

[15:31] concerning Data Center

[15:37] development. Proposals. The

[15:37] following proposals or refer

[15:38] to the public safety and

[15:40] Criminal Justice Committee

[15:41] proposal. Number 2.11, 2026

[15:44] introduced Council Robinson

[15:46] Point Elizabeth White to the

[15:47] domestic violent violence

[15:53] fatality review team.

[15:55] Proposal. Number 2.36, 2026

[15:56] introduced by Council Robinson

[15:57] appoints Raymond pow to the

[15:58] Marion County Community.

[16:01] Corrections Advisory Board.

[16:02] The following proposals were

[16:04] referred to the Public Works

[16:07] Committee proposal number 2 to

[16:08] 12, 2026 introduced council

[16:11] boots authorizes high

[16:13] intensity activated cross will

[16:16] walk signal for nickel plate

[16:17] trail crossing on 56th Street

[16:21] Kessler Boulevard East right

[16:23] 71st Street and 75th Street

[16:26] District 3 proposal. Number

[16:29] 2.13, 2026 introduced by Sully

[16:30] authorizes intersection

[16:31] controls adjacent to the iu

[16:34] Health Medical Center on 13th

[16:36] Street Capitol Avenue and

[16:37] Senate Avenue and on 14th

[16:38] Street as Senate Avenue

[16:42] District. Well. Proposal,

[16:43] number 2.14, 2026 introduced

[16:45] by Council McCormick

[16:47] authorizes High in Tucson.

[16:49] High intensity activated

[16:51] crosswalk signal for Eagle

[16:52] Creek Trail crossing at

[16:54] Lyndhurst Drive Bridge.

[17:00] District 16. Proposal. Number

[17:02] 2.15, 2026 introduce my

[17:03] counselor. Allen authorizes

[17:05] high intensity activated

[17:08] crosswalk signal at the Grassy

[17:08] Creek connector. At 3500 North

[17:10] German Church Road District.

[17:15] 15. Proposal. Number 2.16,

[17:18] 2026 introduced by Council

[17:19] Gibson authorizes a speed

[17:20] limit reduction to 25 miles

[17:21] per hour in the area. Bounded

[17:25] by Sherman Drive Emerson

[17:26] Avenue, 30th Street and 34th

[17:29] Street District 8 proposal.

[17:32] Number 2, 17, 2026 introduced

[17:35] by COUNCILMAN Scary authorizes

[17:36] the speed limit reduction to

[17:38] 25 miles per hour. An area

[17:42] bounded by Keystone Avenue,

[17:43] Hobart Road 7 Avenue and

[17:47] Raymond Street District. 19.

[17:48] Proposal number 2.18, 2026

[17:52] introduced by counselor Allen

[17:52] authorizes a speed limit

[17:56] reduction to 25 miles per hour

[17:57] in the Autumn Creek in Autumn

[17:57] Creek, East subdivisions,

[18:01] district 15. Proposal. Number

[18:04] 2.19, 2026 introduced Council

[18:06] Bain authorizes intersection

[18:07] controls at the intersection

[18:08] of Bonnie Drive. And Eddie

[18:12] Wayne District. 21. Proposal

[18:16] number 2, 22,026 introduced by

[18:17] council ku authorizes

[18:18] intersection controls at the

[18:21] intersection of car way Court

[18:21] Thompson and Thompson Road

[18:26] District. 23. Proposal number

[18:27] 2.21 2026 introduced by

[18:31] Council Jesse Brown.

[18:31] Authorizes residential permit

[18:34] parking at 5 to 4 in 5 to 6

[18:37] East 9th Street District. 13.

[18:37] MADAM PRESIDENT, this

[18:39] concludes introductions. Thank

[18:40] you, MADAM. For the next item

[18:42] on our agenda, special orders,

[18:43] priority business proposals.

[18:49] Number 2.28, 4. 32 34 2026 are

[18:51] knee that are certified to the

[18:52] council for approval by the

[18:53] Metropolitan Development

[18:54] Commission. If no District

[18:54] Council wishes to call down

[18:57] any of these proposals for

[18:58] public hearing, they will pass

[19:01] into law. Sand and proposals

[19:06] will pass into law. Proposals.

[19:08] Number 2, 35 2026 is a

[19:10] rezoning that would certify to

[19:12] the Council for Denial by the

[19:13] Metropolitan Development

[19:14] Commission. If no District

[19:17] Council wishes to call down

[19:19] this proposal after a public

[19:19] hearing, the decision of the

[19:20] commission will stand has

[19:25] denied. Seeing no further

[19:26] motion regarding proposal.

[19:28] Number 2, 35 2026. The

[19:28] decision of the commission

[19:32] will stand has denied. Now

[19:34] proceed to special orders.

[19:36] Public hearing before we open

[19:37] a Florida public comments, I

[19:39] would like to call on general

[19:40] counsel peers to review the

[19:40] ground rules for public

[19:41] testimony as adopted by this

[19:43] body. His peers. Thank MADAM

[19:48] PRESIDENT. And we move to the

[19:49] public comment portion of

[19:51] debate for these proposals. We

[19:52] would like to remind council

[19:52] members and the public of a

[19:55] few ground rules in order for

[19:56] everyone to have a fair chance

[19:57] to speak and be heard. It is

[19:57] important that we each observe

[20:00] the following rules first,

[20:00] each speaker will be limited

[20:04] to 2 minutes. Second, any

[20:05] public comment must reasonably

[20:07] relate to the agenda item

[20:09] under consideration. 3rd

[20:10] speakers to stray from the

[20:11] item under consideration or

[20:12] become unduly repetitious MAY

[20:13] be asked to move on to their

[20:15] next point, conclude their

[20:17] comments. Finally attendees

[20:18] who caused this reaction that

[20:18] prevent the council from

[20:21] proceeding through the agenda

[20:22] and a reasonably efficient

[20:23] manner will be Please remember

[20:25] that some types of threatening

[20:27] speech or excitement. The

[20:27] violence are not protected by

[20:31] the First Amendment. And all

[20:32] we will deal with those issues

[20:32] if they come up. But we do not

[20:34] think they will. MADAM

[20:38] PRESIDENT. Thank you to have

[20:39] consented that the rules for

[20:42] public testimony. Thank you.

[20:43] Well, Brooke, proceeded

[20:45] proposal. Number one, 24

[20:46] referred a Metropolitan and

[20:46] Economic Development

[20:51] Committee. CHAIRMAN, mostly.

[20:52] Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT

[20:55] pose a number one to 4, 2026.

[20:56] Approves an additional

[20:58] appropriation of $42,000 and

[20:59] the 2026 budget of the Marion

[21:01] County Recorders Office County

[21:05] Recorders, Perpetual Fund to

[21:06] be used for property fraud and

[21:08] veteran advertisement. The

[21:09] proposal passed out of

[21:12] committee by a vote of 10 to 0

[21:15] MADAM PRESIDENT, I some of the

[21:16] motion improperly moved and

[21:17] second are the comments from

[21:21] counselors. Is there anyone in

[21:21] the audience that wishes to

[21:22] speak to propose a number one?

[21:23] 24, please state your name

[21:32] doing so. Larry Van, please, I

[21:34] just like to congratulate my

[21:36] friend Faith Kimbro for her

[21:36] services she's doing and the

[21:39] recorders office. From

[21:40] stamping out the fraud that's

[21:42] going on here in Marin County.

[21:46] The actual title for a that's

[21:47] going on. Just to know that

[21:49] she's a beloved politician

[21:51] right now. And I think she's

[21:54] qualified for other offices. I

[21:54] just like to thank her for a

[21:55] program that she's initiate

[21:59] it. Office where she's dealing

[22:00] with the a total fraud that's

[22:04] going on because the recorder

[22:06] is really a job that's really

[22:07] consequential for anybody that

[22:08] owns property here in Marion

[22:10] County. So faith camera roof,

[22:13] she's a politician's just like

[22:15] mile average who have really

[22:16] done her job and stuff to the

[22:18] guidelines of for a job. So

[22:22] thanks. Let just fun.

[22:26] Additional comments. You

[22:26] proceed to the board for a

[22:38] vote. Later. Evins. The

[22:41] proposal carries 24 to 0 the

[22:42] next item on our agenda

[22:43] proposal. Number one, 63

[22:45] referred admin of finance

[22:49] CHAIRMAN, Scary. Thank you.

[22:50] MADAM PRESIDENT, Bulls won. 63

[22:51] approves an additional

[22:53] appropriation. Totally

[22:57] 19 million, $488,400 to 2026

[23:01] budgets various city. County

[23:03] departments and agencies in

[23:05] various city county funds from

[23:05] additional supplemental income

[23:08] in Tax revenue. As the

[23:12] committee, 11 0. I so move.

[23:12] The motion been properly moved

[23:13] and seconded. Other comments

[23:17] from counselors. Is there

[23:17] anyone the audience that

[23:18] wishes to speak to proposal?

[23:26] Number one, 63. You know, I

[23:27] would anything about this with

[23:30] the loose description on where

[23:31] these funds are actually going

[23:33] to be gone. You know, their

[23:35] prorated for certain things,

[23:36] but they don't always end up

[23:40] at the destination. So it's

[23:41] just questionable when we have

[23:43] people that are appropriating

[23:47] funds just to lose.

[23:49] Description of where the funds

[23:50] are actually gone and the

[23:51] shape that the city is in

[23:53] right now. I think it's a bad

[23:56] policy to have a mean. And

[23:58] that's mostly because we don't

[24:02] have commissioners over 3

[24:06] largest budget item which dpw,

[24:07] this public safety and also

[24:08] forgot what else it is. But in

[24:11] any case. It's a loose

[24:14] description. Additional

[24:18] comments from the audience.

[24:19] Siena proceed to the board for

[24:23] our votes. I apologize. MADAM.

[24:25] PRESIDENT Council members, my

[24:25] name is Tyler Mitchell. I live

[24:27] on the South side and happy

[24:32] birthday to the United States.

[24:33] I went to proposal one 63, so

[24:36] my neighbors don't have to.

[24:38] Some of the funding in the

[24:38] proposal goes to roads and

[24:39] infrastructure, which is

[24:43] great. The news more go to

[24:43] programs with broad

[24:45] descriptions like quality of

[24:47] life, housing initiatives,

[24:50] unification, Youth engagement

[24:51] and other projects that

[24:52] deserve far public scrutiny

[24:53] before taxpayers are asked to

[24:56] fund them. Take the homeowner

[24:58] repair program is one example.

[25:01] It is already funded with 3.6

[25:02] million dollars in cdbg,

[25:06] federal funding. Proposal. One

[25:08] 63, would add another $500,000

[25:11] in local taxpayer dollars.

[25:12] Helping your neighbors over to

[25:15] you. Compelling your neighbors

[25:16] to pay to help others through

[25:20] taxation is not. Not every

[25:20] need requires a government

[25:24] solution. Indianapolis as one

[25:25] of the largest church

[25:28] communities in the Midwest.

[25:28] Church is a voluntary

[25:29] association groups have long

[25:31] to help people in need. And I

[25:32] don't understand why we're

[25:32] forgetting the ability to do

[25:37] so. If dpw numbers are

[25:40] correct. That's a $500,000.

[25:41] Could proximity 7 lanes of

[25:46] roadway? That's enough to

[25:47] repave north down even Emerson

[25:48] Avenue from Southeastern

[25:48] Avenue all the way to 46

[25:52] street. I mentioning roads

[25:53] because certainly you will

[25:54] vote to increase my will tax

[25:59] by 400%. If we're truly facing

[25:59] a road funding crisis than

[26:01] every available dollar should

[26:02] be directed there before

[26:04] expanding spending elsewhere.

[26:05] I recognize that the state's

[26:06] road funding formula needs to

[26:10] work better for us. And I did

[26:10] not come here to dispute that,

[26:14] by the way. But the way the

[26:15] city continues to spend

[26:17] taxpayer dollars is not going

[26:17] to strengthen our case. We

[26:18] asked the state to do more for

[26:21] us. Taxpayers work hard for

[26:24] every dollar they earn. They

[26:24] expect the city government to

[26:25] provide just the essential

[26:31] services and a quick at this.

[26:32] The city council keeps

[26:34] expanding government into

[26:35] areas beyond its core

[26:35] responsibilities when working

[26:37] families have to tighten their

[26:38] budget, they expect the same

[26:39] thing to come from the council

[26:40] and prioritize you. Thank you.

[26:43] Thank you, ma'am. Additional

[26:49] comments from the audience. A

[26:50] PRESIDENT, the looking this

[26:52] way. Yes, sir, here at few

[26:55] comments yet place. So, you

[26:58] know, I I got a couple

[26:58] thoughts I mean, what the

[26:59] gentleman did make a pretty

[27:03] good point about the

[27:04] correlation between the tax

[27:05] proposal that we have coming

[27:05] up. And I think I just want

[27:07] shed light on that. One of the

[27:11] things that I and you know is

[27:11] going through this just been a

[27:12] lot more time in spring fiscal

[27:15] added this year. I did send

[27:16] some things over through the

[27:18] office, but I just want at

[27:19] least verbally acknowledge

[27:20] some of the things that I've

[27:21] heard. Constituents asked me

[27:22] for that I think are very

[27:22] prudent or things that I've

[27:25] seen that need even have a

[27:26] tension in the city that I

[27:28] don't. The city has brought us

[27:30] this year. There is an issue

[27:31] that we have with duplicative

[27:32] data storage or even

[27:33] triplicate data storage across

[27:36] the city enterprise in which

[27:38] we are overpaying for data

[27:38] storage and a lot of our

[27:40] public safety's and it's

[27:42] causing both redundancies as

[27:44] well as efficiency issues when

[27:44] trying to share that

[27:48] information between agencies I

[27:49] say has done it does have

[27:50] information to run a pilot on

[27:52] this and have looked into it.

[27:53] So we wouldn't be starting

[27:54] from scratch. So just

[27:55] something for this body to be

[27:56] aware of when, you know, I

[27:57] know there are some additional

[27:58] funds that were parked because

[28:00] of this. Whether we get into

[28:02] that or not, but ideas for the

[28:04] future as well as police

[28:04] recruitment. This was

[28:05] something that I've had a lot

[28:05] of conversations with the

[28:09] chief of police, our office as

[28:11] well. We have to, you know,

[28:12] get some more focus on that. I

[28:13] know we're working on the

[28:15] vehicles with this as well.

[28:18] But down in Fort Worth, they

[28:19] did some really, really cool,

[28:20] innovative ideas that was able

[28:24] to net them. 3400 new police

[28:26] applications as soon as they

[28:27] had a new police chief. We

[28:28] have very similar activities

[28:30] going on it wasn't causing ton

[28:31] of money. Additional things

[28:32] that I think could be

[28:33] beneficial to us is the

[28:34] council. Our constituent

[28:37] management software where, you

[28:37] know, we don't have that. I'm

[28:38] using an Excel spreadsheet to

[28:42] manage things inside and and

[28:42] then trying to share them with

[28:43] my liaison, who imagine has

[28:46] probably 25 of those. And last

[28:47] thing which is very important,

[28:50] which is talks drops across

[28:52] the city. We have got to come

[28:55] up with a solution on that

[28:57] where we while lost mine 2

[28:58] years ago. Some of these are

[28:59] the council says says town is

[29:02] me and we lost And these are

[29:03] these are things that impact

[29:04] daily lives efficiencies, the

[29:06] quality life for people,

[29:07] environmental, all of these

[29:10] fall within these buckets you

[29:11] know, I I bring him up as want

[29:12] to make sure do it publicly so

[29:13] we can hear about it. Talk

[29:14] about These are important to

[29:16] me important to community and

[29:17] I think Indianapolis want to

[29:18] see more of with that. I knew

[29:19] my time. MADAM PRESIDENT,

[29:25] thank you. Assistant. And now.

[29:27] Thank Thank you, PRESIDENT

[29:28] Louis, appreciate the

[29:29] opportunity provide a little

[29:31] more color to the part of the

[29:32] spring festival, which is just

[29:34] a supplemental distribution as

[29:35] we were working on this, we

[29:40] were at a time when the

[29:41] governor made the decision to

[29:43] suspend the gas tax at that

[29:43] time. We were looking at about

[29:48] a $400,000 a month losses city

[29:50] that when I was extended a

[29:51] second time, it was even more

[29:51] robust that extended to about

[29:55] 3.4 million a month. And so in

[29:56] those conversations, we worked

[29:58] with the administration to

[30:01] this big prior the council to

[30:02] fence off a large

[30:03] appropriation of the

[30:03] supplemental up just a little

[30:05] over 15 million dollars to be

[30:09] able to backfill the current

[30:10] 2026 capital plan. The

[30:11] governor has since announced

[30:14] that he's going to be pushing

[30:16] state finance board to

[30:18] reimburse the state. City for

[30:21] any lost gas tax revenues. I'm

[30:22] hopeful that goes through. But

[30:24] I just want as we're having a

[30:26] conversation about fiscal

[30:27] discipline and ensuring are

[30:28] putting money towards roads,

[30:29] we free fence off almost 50%

[30:32] of the supplemental in order

[30:33] to prepare for just that. So

[30:35] we'll as we go into the

[30:36] budget. We'll be looking to

[30:37] appropriate those for

[30:38] hopefully some other one time

[30:39] spends. But just want the

[30:44] public to be aware that that

[30:44] we that we were taking

[30:45] precautionary measures. We

[30:46] have better news now, but

[30:47] nothing is set in Stone. So

[30:48] thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

[30:50] thank you. Additional comments

[30:52] council Brown. Thank you,

[30:53] MADAM PRESIDENT, I appreciate

[30:54] the thoughtful commentary from

[30:56] constituents and just wanted

[30:59] to kind of make the case for

[31:00] why. I think the homeowner, a

[31:00] paraffin in particular is a

[31:01] very good use of taxpayer

[31:03] dollars. I agree

[31:04] wholeheartedly with council

[31:05] heart describing the need for

[31:07] talks drop programs. The

[31:08] reason for that is because if

[31:09] you don't do that kind of

[31:11] preventative up in it from the

[31:13] government. What happens is

[31:15] people just dump toxic

[31:16] chemicals and then across far,

[31:17] far more to end up cleaning up

[31:19] later. And I think the same

[31:20] can be true if we could spend

[31:22] $500,000 and keep people in

[31:23] their homes to prevent them

[31:24] from becoming homeless, which

[31:25] is where a lot of folks would

[31:27] go otherwise. Think about how

[31:29] expensive emergency services

[31:30] calls our when dealing with

[31:31] our homeless. The situation. I

[31:34] think he's actually situation

[31:38] where ounce of prevention is

[31:39] than a pound of care. And it

[31:40] just saves taxpayers in the

[31:41] long run. So I encourage all

[31:42] colleagues to vote yes for

[31:47] this. Additional comments.

[31:47] Proceed to the board for a

[31:59] vote. The proposal carries 24

[32:02] to 0 the next item item on our

[32:03] agenda proposal. Number one,

[32:04] 88 refer to public safety and

[32:04] criminal Justice Committee.

[32:08] Assistant Chair Alan. Thank

[32:09] you. MADAM PRESIDENT proposal,

[32:13] number one, 88, 2026 approves

[32:15] an additional appropriation.

[32:17] Totally 175,000 in the 226

[32:19] budget. The Indianapolis

[32:22] Metropolitan Police Department

[32:23] for the purpose of funding the

[32:25] final payment of the impd

[32:28] these 2021 vehicle financing

[32:30] agreement do pass 11 a boat

[32:35] and 11 to 0 vote. So moved.

[32:36] Emotion and properly moved.

[32:37] And second in other comments

[32:39] from counselors, Castor Brown.

[32:42] Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

[32:43] makes a very politically

[32:44] contentious and unpopular

[32:46] comments here. But this

[32:48] proposal would give almost

[32:49] $900,000 additional in

[32:52] taxpayer funding for police

[32:53] vehicles. And we had some

[32:53] great commentary in committee

[32:56] that I was able to review that

[32:57] mentioned that the main one

[32:59] main reason for this is

[33:01] because apparently car

[33:03] manufacturers are not

[33:04] producing pursuit rated sedans

[33:06] anymore. And so that Durango

[33:07] suv is about the most

[33:08] affordable police vehicle that

[33:12] we can purchase right now. You

[33:12] know, here's what else out a

[33:13] little bit more like a

[33:14] conservative that I normally

[33:17] do when. Only government

[33:19] entities are purchasing from

[33:21] car companies and we just

[33:23] automatically will spend more

[33:24] money and just pay for a more

[33:25] expensive vehicle. What

[33:27] incentive are we giving the

[33:27] car manufacturers to actually

[33:28] produce the police to dance

[33:30] the way that they used to? As

[33:30] long as we just keep showing

[33:32] the market that we will pay

[33:36] any cost. And there's bounds

[33:37] around any police pending. I

[33:38] don't see how that will ever

[33:40] end. And so in the context of

[33:42] 4% budget cuts for almost

[33:46] every other department. In the

[33:47] context of a situation where

[33:49] 300 officers down. But but are

[33:51] still funding to the tune of

[33:52] 17, 43 officers, even though

[33:53] we we know we're not going to

[33:54] hire those officers in the

[33:57] short term in the context of

[33:58] and over 100% raise for first

[34:00] year. Officers in the last 8

[34:02] years. I don't see how we can

[34:02] continue to keep throwing

[34:04] money at the police

[34:05] department. You know, some

[34:06] officers could use a bike.

[34:07] Some officers could walk

[34:10] around on foot. Morale is

[34:12] important. I think that being

[34:13] around constituents and not

[34:15] always behind the wheel of an

[34:16] suv separated from them is a

[34:18] good way of increasing police

[34:20] relationships with the

[34:22] community. And so I just can't

[34:25] vote for this in good

[34:25] conscience. You know what?

[34:26] Officers to be safe, want them

[34:27] to have all the equipment they

[34:29] need. How many of us and only

[34:30] 40 years old, but every movie

[34:34] from the 80's and 90's showed

[34:35] 2 police officer sitting a

[34:36] vehicle together. When you

[34:37] watch anybody being pulled

[34:39] over to the average U.S. And

[34:40] one police cruiser know for

[34:41] officer safety will send

[34:42] multiple police cruisers. So

[34:44] we have multiple vehicles

[34:45] going to the site at the same

[34:46] scene of a crime

[34:47] investigation. To me, it's a

[34:48] no-brainer that we need to be

[34:49] saving money. We need to be

[34:50] treating our taxpayers with

[34:51] respect. As I urge my

[34:52] colleagues about now. Thank

[34:56] you. Thank you. CHAIRMAN

[34:59] Perkins, thank you. MADAM

[35:00] PRESIDENT, I do want to say

[35:02] thank you to assistant chair

[35:05] for the conversation that we

[35:06] had in committee regarding

[35:10] this particular issue. And

[35:11] while I am reluctantly support

[35:16] of tonight. We have asked both

[35:17] in committee and in direct

[35:21] conversation in our caucus for

[35:23] impd to provide us some

[35:24] clarity around their budgetary

[35:25] needs as we're entering into

[35:28] the budget season. My concern

[35:35] continues to be impd to as an

[35:35] entity of the largest

[35:38] percentage and the overall

[35:42] city budget. And it seems to

[35:44] that is a consistent request.

[35:45] Whenever there's a fiscal from

[35:47] impd for something additional

[35:51] and we don't have clear

[35:52] picture off the scope and need

[35:55] from the department and what

[35:56] that means for us as we are

[35:59] going in the budget process,

[36:00] we will start the public

[36:01] budget process next month. And

[36:05] what would what I've

[36:08] requested? I McCall,

[36:09] colleagues of joining along

[36:09] that is to say to impd, we

[36:11] need a full picture of your

[36:12] needs and requests as we're

[36:14] going into this fiscal year.

[36:17] And so I just want call on the

[36:18] leadership of impd along as

[36:20] well as administration to make

[36:22] sure that you're providing

[36:22] that to the council's main

[36:24] gauge in this conversation.

[36:26] Run-up to the support of

[36:27] tonight, one, a police

[36:29] department to know that we

[36:31] want the best for our city,

[36:33] but we also need to be

[36:35] fiscally responsible. And this

[36:37] keeps coming up police

[36:37] department. And so we just

[36:39] want to share that. Thank you,

[36:40] MADAM PRESIDENT, thank you,

[36:42] MR. CHAIRMAN Councilor Heart.

[36:46] Thank you. MADAM Chair. I want

[36:47] to say I've got no reluctance

[36:49] on this very proud to support

[36:51] men or women blue of the city

[36:52] of Indianapolis. There's a few

[36:54] more details that were left

[36:55] out of One of the reasons that

[36:56] this is coming from in front

[36:59] of us today is essentially

[37:01] these are on a leasing model

[37:02] that they're paying least

[37:04] lingo, renewing get the new

[37:05] vehicles. The problem, one of

[37:06] the problems behind that is

[37:07] that the bond rates now are

[37:08] higher than what they were

[37:11] originally. So it's more

[37:12] expensive to borrow money to

[37:13] go buy the vehicles to pay

[37:15] them off for years. One of the

[37:16] things that we've learned even

[37:17] from the fire department of

[37:20] this year's is that it is more

[37:24] fiscally responsible

[37:25] essentially use the leasing

[37:26] model because we don't pay all

[37:27] the deferred maintenance. If

[37:28] we don't do this, we're going

[37:31] to end up with more costs and

[37:32] paying maintenance on

[37:33] vehicles. We learned that the

[37:34] certain vehicles aren't as

[37:35] reliable and efficient.

[37:38] Effective Lee is if their

[37:40] direct then that's it. They're

[37:40] total, whereas older vehicles

[37:42] that they had the ability to

[37:43] be repaired. We're not in that

[37:44] position anymore. And we need

[37:46] to keep these vehicles and a

[37:47] newer position. But we also

[37:48] have to keep a certain number

[37:49] of them. We learned that

[37:52] evening essentially to make

[37:52] sure that we had a stock for

[37:53] when are getting

[37:54] repaired. Vehicles are getting

[37:58] prepared for that rotation. So

[38:01] I think that this is fiscally

[38:03] responsible, responsible thing

[38:06] to do. I think it both from

[38:07] the finance point, but also

[38:08] from the part of trying to

[38:09] make sure that we're showing

[38:09] officers that we do care about

[38:11] their needs and that this is

[38:12] this is their office, right? I

[38:16] do think that we are gonna

[38:17] have to have this conversation

[38:18] again because it was made

[38:20] clear in committee. My change

[38:21] to this is that we need to do

[38:23] the full thing, not just a

[38:23] piece of it. So I do expect to

[38:27] see it again in the fall. But

[38:28] hopefully that gets a street

[38:30] up for adequate rotation. But

[38:31] this is a good thing in this

[38:33] will help us in the long run.

[38:36] Thank Additional comments.

[38:39] Councilor Cahill. Thank you,

[38:42] MADAM PRESIDENT, I did want to

[38:43] address comment about impd

[38:46] coming to the council with

[38:49] these types requests. This was

[38:50] in the request and was not

[38:51] fulfilled in the budget last

[38:52] year. So I'm happy to see that

[38:55] it's in a fiscal we're now

[38:57] funding But this was brought

[38:58] to our attention in fact, they

[39:01] want to 1.5 million for new

[39:01] vehicles last year and it

[39:05] didn't make the budget. So I

[39:06] do think they have come to us

[39:09] and through the administration

[39:10] and simply not everything they

[39:10] wanted. Despite some the

[39:13] claims here. Additional

[39:18] comments will counselors. Is

[39:18] there anyone in the audience

[39:19] that wishes to speak to

[39:21] proposal? Number one, 88?

[39:28] Please state your name. My

[39:32] name is William Dollar of so

[39:33] District 8 but have a medical

[39:36] issue. So if I'm kind of

[39:38] sorry, that's so many him on

[39:41] mailbox the other day called

[39:43] the police. They drove right

[39:43] by my house, didn't stop.

[39:45] That. Came through hours later

[39:45] and said, hey, we don't know

[39:47] what to do about it will go

[39:50] chat. I was on video chasing

[39:51] out the guy hit my mailbox. So

[39:52] didn't get any recourse from

[39:55] that. This I mean, we've all

[39:55] seen in a city how many people

[40:01] running red lights today. I

[40:02] watched Reddit run a red light

[40:03] while police officer was right

[40:04] in the front line at the light

[40:07] and did not pull them over. So

[40:08] I don't know why the police

[40:09] have been extortion. Everyone

[40:10] is supposed to protected,

[40:12] especially when the city is

[40:13] saying we need money. We need

[40:14] all data centers to come in

[40:16] and give us more money. And

[40:17] then meanwhile, they ask for

[40:21] like what? What's the purpose

[40:23] of this like? I don't see why

[40:23] we need it. The more money

[40:24] when they already take up so

[40:27] much of our budget as for a

[40:28] time of being fiscally

[40:28] responsible. I think to start

[40:29] there, start cut in the

[40:36] budget. Larry van, please sure

[40:40] what is impd that have the

[40:41] appropriated funds in the

[40:44] hands of a commissioner.

[40:45] Because as long as I've been

[40:47] coming down there, it's always

[40:48] been that way when the money

[40:49] is appropriated in this room

[40:50] and taken from the citizens.

[40:54] That gun point. Then the mayor

[40:56] of Indianapolis gets the said

[40:58] were goes. So as long as we're

[41:00] sitting in this room, have a

[41:01] arguments about appropriations

[41:04] that have left this round. The

[41:05] call for the mayor right now.

[41:09] You're going do nothing. And I

[41:10] know some you think it's

[41:12] funny. You think it's a laugh.

[41:13] But the people who elected you

[41:15] are also looking at you. This

[41:17] has been for many years, a

[41:18] problem ever since we got the

[41:20] tif districts. And so for

[41:23] where commissioners were

[41:25] displaced from from from dpw.

[41:29] From Public Safety and also

[41:33] from for getting a 3rd

[41:34] Somebody can remind but any

[41:38] case we sat in this room,

[41:39] everything these people do you

[41:39] people at home, everything

[41:43] they do with that gun point

[41:45] because if you go into role as

[41:48] a van that they will, you will

[41:48] definitely thank Beat me with

[41:49] the point goals certainly will

[41:51] get. Thank you. Additional

[41:56] comments from the audience.

[41:57] Seeing no proceed to the board

[42:09] for a The proposal carries 23

[42:13] 2 line. The next item on our

[42:14] agenda proposal. Number one,

[42:24] 59. Leader Evans. Thank you.

[42:30] MADAM PRESIDENT. On JUNE 3rd,

[42:30] 2026 at the nbc's regular

[42:31] scheduled meeting. The

[42:33] commission acknowledged the

[42:36] withdrawal of rezoning case

[42:40] 2025 Dash 0 in Dash. 1, 2, 6,

[42:41] because the case no longer

[42:41] exists. There is no need for a

[42:43] public hearing. If there are

[42:44] no questions or comments for

[42:44] my fellow councilors, I

[42:46] recommend that we by consent

[42:49] acknowledge the withdrawal of

[42:52] rezoning case 2025 dash the

[42:53] Dash 1, 2, 6, proposal. Number

[43:00] one, 59. At ascent. The number

[43:02] one, 59 2026 has been

[43:04] withdrawn proposal. Number

[43:08] 206, proposal. Number 2, 0, 6,

[43:10] 2026 is a rezoning certified

[43:11] for denial by the Metropolitan

[43:12] Development Commission on

[43:15] JUNE. First 20 26 rezoning

[43:20] case 2025 zone 0, 8, 4, is

[43:23] located at 40 1 South Keystone

[43:24] Avenue in Perry Township

[43:26] Council District 19, the

[43:30] rezoning proposal is too rizo

[43:37] to Rezone Acres. One point 0,

[43:38] 7, 5, from sea for district, 2

[43:40] c s district to provide all 3,

[43:43] 2, to provide for all c 3 uses

[43:45] and automobile feeling station

[43:49] section one. 51 through 79,

[43:50] the code clearly outlines the

[43:51] process for public hearings

[43:53] for rezoning case is certified

[43:55] by Metropolitan Development

[43:56] Commission. All callers should

[43:58] have received a copy of those

[44:00] guidelines and their meeting

[44:01] packets and will adhere

[44:01] closely to those guidelines

[44:04] and timely hits castle

[44:07] miscarry those district. It

[44:08] his district. A rezoning is

[44:08] located. A call for that

[44:12] matter for hearing at our JUNE

[44:14] first meeting, I have advised

[44:15] by our general counsel that

[44:16] the preliminary hearing has

[44:18] been held and no compromise or

[44:20] agreement has been reached as

[44:22] soon to our rules. I will call

[44:23] for council miscarry for

[44:27] opening comments. Thank you,

[44:31] MADAM PRESIDENT as an elected

[44:31] council member of District 19.

[44:36] I've requested it. The zoning

[44:37] of property of my district

[44:40] located 4,001 South Keystone

[44:41] Perry Township now Zone c 3 to

[44:45] be amended to c 4 and allow

[44:45] the sale of gasoline. That

[44:50] location. I received numerous

[44:51] requests from the on that side

[44:57] of street. People East. It's

[44:59] easier to get into this place.

[44:59] And the dax so convenient.

[45:05] Food. The site was purchased

[45:06] persons and by the current

[45:11] owner. And it was a total

[45:12] mess. And he totally at toward

[45:14] the building down because all

[45:14] the trash and started over

[45:21] with a new building. Each

[45:24] hearing feels that committee

[45:25] the owner asked for to build a

[45:27] defense around the property at

[45:30] one time, MR. Send wreck of

[45:33] owner am l sec property. I

[45:35] worked with me in zoning

[45:36] appeals board to totally re

[45:40] have the site from tear it

[45:42] down and build a new building.

[45:45] He spent a million dollars on

[45:46] the property he's offered to

[45:47] community store for about a

[45:48] year, but it can support

[45:52] itself is out of gas. And with

[45:55] that, give my time MR. On.

[45:56] Thank you. Council miscarry. I

[45:59] will now call the petitioner

[46:00] to state their case. Please

[46:02] keep in mind that you have 20

[46:03] minutes total for your

[46:04] presentation. Regardless of

[46:07] how many dissipate you MAY

[46:09] choose not to use the full 20

[46:11] minutes or save a portion of

[46:12] it for the rebuttal. Our clerk

[46:13] will keep track of the time

[46:14] and a buzzer will sound when

[46:17] your time is up. If you do not

[46:19] use a portion of your time,

[46:20] our clerk will record the

[46:20] amount you have remaining for

[46:23] your rebuttal. You finish

[46:26] before the buzzer, the clerk

[46:27] will advise you of the

[46:29] remaining time, MR. Hinds,

[46:31] thank you very much. MADAM

[46:35] PRESIDENT City Council members

[46:36] appreciate the opportunity to

[46:36] be here. My name for the

[46:40] records. Gregory And with

[46:41] those McKinnon Evans, I also

[46:43] have Madison was over with

[46:49] tonight. Also, I have the one

[46:53] of the members of on llc.

[46:56] Shook wonder saying he was by

[47:00] Sunday and he owns 49% of a

[47:02] family in Amman and his wife

[47:08] owns 51%. We are here is legal

[47:11] counsel pursuant to one 51

[47:12] day. 79 other revised code of

[47:14] the consolidated City County

[47:16] special procedures rezoning.

[47:21] Ordinances. And which from

[47:23] center ic 3, 6, dash, 7 dash 4

[47:25] 608 to change the current

[47:30] restrictions to sell gas. Its

[47:33] location at 4, 0, 0, 1, south

[47:35] to stone. And it's about to

[47:41] one point '07 acres. Mr,

[47:42] saying he's been in this

[47:46] business for quite a while.

[47:47] His story is I think you have

[47:49] to talk about him and what

[47:49] he's accomplished since season

[47:51] one driving the the ship on

[47:56] this project. He came

[47:57] immigrate. It's the United

[48:00] States with basically nothing.

[48:00] He's originally from the

[48:01] northern area of India called

[48:04] Putin job. Very, very poor

[48:08] area of India. He worked in

[48:10] New York City as a taxi driver

[48:15] and 2004, he arrived in

[48:17] Indianapolis and least a gas

[48:20] station to support his wife.

[48:24] And their family. From those

[48:25] humble beginnings. They worked

[48:26] hires Lee to create

[48:29] opportunities for their family

[48:32] following the American dream.

[48:33] Over the past 20 years, they

[48:33] have dedicated their company,

[48:36] the building and operating

[48:38] successful businesses with

[48:39] particular expertise in the

[48:40] gas station, convenience store

[48:43] industry. Today. They oversee

[48:46] more than 100 properties

[48:47] throughout the Midwest,

[48:48] including approximately 30

[48:49] stations located in the

[48:53] Indianapolis area. Sony has

[48:58] wife 3 children. One Med

[48:58] school wins a doctor or any

[49:03] other civil student. Sony's

[49:03] family develops developments

[49:05] provide more than just of fuel

[49:08] and convenience items. They

[49:11] create jobs, tax revenue,

[49:12] increased commercial activity

[49:14] and provide essential goods

[49:16] and services to the local

[49:18] communities and what he's been

[49:19] able to do as he goes into the

[49:21] site's a are like this site.

[49:23] We're totally devastated. And

[49:25] Hoyer is pretty devastated.

[49:28] And he's able to go in. Put in

[49:30] a gas station, convenience

[49:34] stores and then build from

[49:36] that and bring in businesses.

[49:36] And exactly what trying to do

[49:43] here. So they also provide

[49:47] contribute to local charities

[49:47] in support. Local activity not

[49:48] only here in Indianapolis

[49:49] area, but all throughout the

[49:54] state of Indiana. They now

[49:57] approval for the project at 4,

[49:58] 0, 0, 1, South Keystone Avenue

[50:01] to continue that same kind of

[50:03] work by investing in the local

[50:04] community. From Tribune,

[50:05] long-term value to the

[50:10] surrounding area. Ironically,

[50:10] son his family have a long

[50:13] relationship to this area. And

[50:16] that's why he's there. There

[50:17] were long-term residents of

[50:18] the south side of Indianapolis

[50:21] and resided on South Houston.

[50:22] Just a few blocks away from

[50:25] where site is. So they've seen

[50:26] everything that's happened in

[50:30] the community down there.

[50:31] Their daughters graduate from

[50:33] wrong, calling high school in

[50:35] his first gas station that

[50:37] owned his own south Times.

[50:39] Thompson Road. So they've been

[50:40] very vested in this area and

[50:42] want to take it forward. You

[50:45] know, just a little going back

[50:46] to what transpired. In

[50:47] addition, I could spend all

[50:50] day doing that they bought the

[50:55] property in 2000. 22, it had

[50:58] been abandoned since 2017. It

[51:01] was owned by company in

[51:03] Muncie. And they just

[51:05] basically let it and abandoned

[51:07] it. When I first went down or

[51:08] to see the property and for

[51:09] him to talk to me and we but

[51:13] with the counselor, the scary

[51:16] it was nothing but trash.

[51:17] Heaps of trace people are just

[51:22] dumping stuff there all the

[51:23] time. The buildings were

[51:24] uninhabited infected are being

[51:28] used by Grinch drug dealing

[51:28] council miscarried received

[51:30] numerous complaints about this

[51:32] site in what what they should

[51:35] could they do about it? And

[51:38] Sonny and his company stepped

[51:38] up. They bought the property

[51:40] and then they tried to go in

[51:46] and get. Permission to gas.

[51:47] Now, there was there was

[51:48] agreement signed by the

[51:51] previous owner. To do about

[51:53] everything he wanted to do

[51:56] there except so gas because

[51:57] they had were to deal with the

[51:59] property next door to bring in

[52:01] a 21st Amendment liquor store.

[52:04] And so that had been excluded.

[52:04] What at the time about the

[52:06] property? And he knew But he

[52:09] wanted to try go forward

[52:11] remedy the situation and see

[52:12] if he could make it work and

[52:14] then. There's enough property

[52:15] done or he could do many other

[52:17] things. Unfortunately, nobody

[52:20] else has ever approached him

[52:21] and nothing else has ever

[52:22] happened to it because you've

[52:25] got to have gas fueling

[52:26] decision to make to make it

[52:30] work. 3 different times we

[52:36] have been before the planning

[52:37] commission in 3 different

[52:40] times. We have been denied

[52:41] because they keep saying,

[52:42] well, there's no need for

[52:47] another gas station. Which to

[52:47] Is it accurate if you go

[52:48] around and talk to the

[52:49] neighbors like we did and I'll

[52:53] go into that in more detail in

[52:53] a minute. Every one of the

[52:57] neighborhood of presidents and

[52:57] people are surrounding an area

[53:02] which will elderly. Begging

[53:03] for gas to come in there. So

[53:05] you don't have to try to

[53:05] cross. He's showing all the

[53:08] time, which is a really,

[53:10] really a dangerous place to

[53:12] cross Youve got Keystone. A

[53:14] new Hannah and Walker coming

[53:19] in there. And each the board

[53:20] zoning board would say, well,

[53:24] if you do this, then we'll try

[53:24] to help you the next time

[53:27] around. Well, the first thing

[53:29] was to build a fence week. We

[53:30] build a fence all the way

[53:35] around this property. Almost

[53:37] 1.1 acres and cleaned it all

[53:37] up. Got all that. Got rid of

[53:40] all the trash tore the

[53:41] building down to get rid of

[53:42] all the things that were going

[53:45] on on the site. We came back

[53:46] in and were denied again. This

[53:48] time they said, want look at

[53:49] putting a convenience store by

[53:53] itself about and see if that

[53:57] works. And sunny turned to me,

[53:58] should the I've never seen

[53:59] that work ever. But he said,

[54:00] let me think about it. So we

[54:03] told the board he didn't think

[54:04] he wanted to do that. And then

[54:06] a few months later, he decided

[54:07] to go forward because we

[54:09] really want to clean this area

[54:12] and he did build a convenience

[54:13] store. You'll there's pictures

[54:17] in materials of what the

[54:19] property looked like before

[54:20] and then after. So there is a

[54:21] convenience store at that

[54:24] site. The bad part about it is

[54:26] set. It will support. Could

[54:31] mean the not profitable season

[54:33] have to subsidizing the store.

[54:34] She is. We just to keep it

[54:40] open. So then the next time we

[54:41] went in was just this last

[54:44] time in MARCH of 26 and we

[54:46] done everything. They ask us

[54:46] to do. We told them about the

[54:50] fact that he was offering the

[54:51] convenience store and we lost

[54:55] again at all. 3 hearings.

[54:59] COUNCILMAN Scary was there. He

[54:59] explained to him a lot of

[55:03] things I'm saying to you told

[55:04] him it extremely important for

[55:08] him in his district to get

[55:10] this so they could provide

[55:14] gassed and make this work. The

[55:15] other interesting thing that

[55:18] happened it the only remind us

[55:18] traitors who showed up at any

[55:19] of this is only board of

[55:23] appeals. People just that live

[55:28] around there all. Owners of 5

[55:29] other gas stations that are in

[55:31] the area. They're the only

[55:32] ones that never showed up for

[55:36] to Raymond Street. And the

[55:37] reason they were showing up

[55:38] because they didn't want to

[55:39] kill competition because Sony

[55:41] has a reputation of running a

[55:46] very good business. Very clean

[55:47] buildings, cetera. And they

[55:49] don't they didn't want it. And

[55:50] they try to say, well, there's

[55:51] already all these gas stations

[55:52] and there's no need for

[55:55] another one. Well, in the

[55:56] meantime, these guys are

[55:59] building gas stations all

[55:59] around. South side of

[56:06] Indianapolis. In 2, 2 families

[56:07] basically. And if they're the

[56:09] ones that right close to this

[56:12] site, should Colin British

[56:16] Petroleum. In the MAY also

[56:17] supposedly have interest in

[56:18] the liquor store. That's next

[56:22] door. In addition, they have

[56:24] stations ship Brookville,

[56:26] Road. 34 1 with Students

[56:28] Street 54 60 east, 21st

[56:32] Street. 57 96 with smaller

[56:33] street in 50 to 52 was Troy

[56:37] Avenue. Obviously for them to

[56:37] say that there's no need for

[56:39] additional gas stations.

[56:45] That's just not correct. And

[56:49] what what we see is that the

[56:49] competitors down there aren't

[56:52] really interested in a

[56:54] district 19 or anything else

[56:55] down there. They're just there

[56:56] to run the gas stations. They

[56:59] have. They do nothing for the

[57:02] community. If you if if you

[57:03] are seeing the stations are

[57:04] run down, the quality of

[57:07] things they serve. He's very

[57:12] meager whereas at convenience

[57:12] store that they have fresh

[57:17] meet. Milk and a lot of other

[57:19] products that the people in

[57:20] that area needing can't get to

[57:21] without trying to cross

[57:29] Keystone. We believe that to

[57:29] the competition down or would

[57:34] be. Very good for the 19th

[57:35] district because everybody's

[57:35] going to have to up their

[57:40] game. In charge. Ferry gas

[57:41] prices. We're not gonna have a

[57:45] monopoly. Basically. So the

[57:47] next thing I want address is

[57:48] exhibit 7 and then runs

[57:50] traders. Filings. Sure they

[57:53] had 190 signatories on their

[57:58] petition opposing on. Well,

[58:00] we've went through those

[58:01] signatures and found that many

[58:03] of them had the same

[58:04] handwriting, hardly any of

[58:08] them had to address listed.

[58:09] And we found that almost the

[58:09] phone numbers that were

[58:12] listed. Legitimate. They were

[58:16] nonexistent. And then the ones

[58:19] that we do talk to about 10 of

[58:20] them said they didn't even

[58:22] accept for 2 people. They

[58:23] didn't even remember every

[58:27] signing a petition and they

[58:31] were for the gas station for a

[58:31] being sore one too soon. The

[58:32] one we're talking about

[58:35] getting gas so they could

[58:40] continues stand business. In

[58:41] fact, one lady that we talked

[58:45] to. Just like us. We're all

[58:47] said she once against to be

[58:50] built at a convenience store.

[58:51] She lives closely by and him

[58:54] to cross the street. It's such

[58:55] a busy intersection is

[58:57] inconvenient and dangerous.

[58:59] There's also a mental health

[59:00] facility nearby. And those

[59:01] folks have to do the same

[59:02] thing. These are all people

[59:06] that live east of Keystone.

[59:06] And that's where there's a big

[59:09] residential area back there.

[59:09] She's worried about the

[59:10] patients who would have to

[59:14] cross the street. She can walk

[59:14] to going to be new storm back

[59:15] to the routes within 10

[59:19] minutes. She likes How it all

[59:20] in one stop shop and makes it

[59:22] very convenient or well.

[59:23] That's a person they had

[59:23] listed that signed the

[59:27] petition against. Putting gas

[59:29] that this location. And we

[59:32] found that with a number of

[59:34] people think 42.6, 3% had

[59:35] phone numbers that don't even

[59:41] work. I would say that that

[59:42] the those petitioners

[59:43] shouldn't have any relevance

[59:51] at all today. In or even upset

[59:52] that they were, it was

[59:53] representations that they had

[59:55] signed it. We on the other

[59:56] hand, got 108 signatures all

[59:58] from the neighbors around the

[1:00:03] neighborhood. We filed those

[1:00:05] in all of them have the names,

[1:00:07] addresses, phone numbers in

[1:00:10] all of them were very

[1:00:11] supportive and several. Those

[1:00:13] were the PRESIDENT's of

[1:00:13] neighborhood associations.

[1:00:19] Specter. Well, next, we saw a

[1:00:23] letter from McKenna which MR.

[1:00:28] Burton's has sent every time,

[1:00:28] we have never had any contact

[1:00:31] with contractor, the

[1:00:33] neighborhood associations of

[1:00:35] contacted her. There was no

[1:00:37] meeting, nothing. She

[1:00:37] basically just sent us letter

[1:00:40] she sent to last 3 times

[1:00:43] because we want to explain to

[1:00:44] her that whole situation and

[1:00:45] change your the benefit of the

[1:00:48] doubt from 2022. And we also

[1:00:51] had a traffic study. But we

[1:00:52] want to assure that shows that

[1:00:55] there's no. Increase in

[1:00:56] traffic traffic that's going

[1:00:58] to be done or no question

[1:00:59] about it. So wasn't going to

[1:01:00] add any more traffic to the

[1:01:12] area. So I I would close with

[1:01:17] Tony of that. You know, the

[1:01:19] city have the plan. And in

[1:01:21] that point municipal plan and

[1:01:22] they didn't want any more gas

[1:01:25] stations. Well. There's many

[1:01:26] gas stations going up

[1:01:28] everywhere. Law, mean, you

[1:01:30] name going up every place. And

[1:01:32] here's a place that can really

[1:01:35] use it. And it helps develop a

[1:01:35] piece of property that set

[1:01:40] almost 10 years. And all they

[1:01:40] want to do is be able to

[1:01:43] compete with. The other with

[1:01:45] the other stores. And that's

[1:01:47] you know, that's somebody

[1:01:51] said, congratulations, sir.

[1:01:51] United States for 250

[1:01:52] th-anniversary and that's what

[1:01:55] we're built on capitalism. In

[1:01:55] the ability to compete and

[1:02:03] compete fairly. We believe

[1:02:11] that this is a very positive.

[1:02:12] To bring the equal competition

[1:02:14] and they'll help cancel the

[1:02:18] district. 19. COUNCILMAN, the

[1:02:21] scare is already the stab wish

[1:02:23] that it been the owner many

[1:02:24] times to see all the things

[1:02:25] I'm talking about. They have

[1:02:32] taken place. Thank you, MR.

[1:02:33] Khan, I will now call on the

[1:02:35] movement's traitors to state

[1:02:35] their case again. Remember

[1:02:36] that you have 20 minutes total

[1:02:38] for your presentation,

[1:02:41] regardless of how many

[1:02:42] speakers participate, you MAY

[1:02:43] choose not to use the full 20

[1:02:44] minutes or save a portion for

[1:02:45] it. A portion of it for your

[1:02:49] rebuttal. Again, our clerk

[1:02:51] will keep track of the time

[1:02:52] and it, but it will sound when

[1:03:01] your time is up. Mind the

[1:03:14] clock. Just a second. Well, we

[1:03:16] ready? Okay. Very good. Thank

[1:03:19] Got my name is Greg Zoo

[1:03:20] Members of the City County

[1:03:23] Council. A pleasure to be here

[1:03:24] and to talk to about this

[1:03:26] case. I'm an attorney with

[1:03:29] offices of back at 1, 0, 4, 7,

[1:03:30] 5, Cross Pointe Boulevard.

[1:03:31] Indianapolis, Indiana. I

[1:03:33] represent the Keystone Food

[1:03:37] Mart which operates a bp

[1:03:37] fueling station and

[1:03:38] convenience store located at

[1:03:41] 39 50 South Keystone, which is

[1:03:43] located catty corner from the

[1:03:45] subject property. My client

[1:03:48] has been in the operation of

[1:03:49] its since the subject property

[1:03:52] currently owned On llc was

[1:03:57] rezoned in 2017. C 4 with a

[1:04:00] lot of commitments saying what

[1:04:03] uses could not be made. Before

[1:04:07] I get into the specifics of

[1:04:08] say there are 2 sides to every

[1:04:09] pancake, no matter how thin it

[1:04:09] is. And I'm going to give you

[1:04:10] the other side in this case. I

[1:04:16] hope. Prior to 2016, the

[1:04:17] subject property was zone c 3

[1:04:21] and in 2016, a petition was

[1:04:21] filed to rezone a to c 4 by

[1:04:25] the then property owner. The

[1:04:26] rezoning was granted. But with

[1:04:29] a list of commitments that

[1:04:29] prohibit a variety of certain

[1:04:30] uses a whole laundry list of

[1:04:34] things. My client. At that

[1:04:36] time long on came along in

[1:04:40] this matter. My client was one

[1:04:42] of the entities that was

[1:04:43] involved in those matters in

[1:04:46] 2016 before the Metropolitan

[1:04:47] Development Commission. All of

[1:04:48] these commitments were

[1:04:52] generated and one of the

[1:04:53] commitments stated that the

[1:04:55] following uses as defined by

[1:04:56] zoning ordinance for Marion

[1:04:57] County, Indiana shall be

[1:04:59] prohibited as permitted uses.

[1:05:01] One was automobile fueling

[1:05:04] station. This property was not

[1:05:07] zoned for an automobile

[1:05:07] fueling station. It was

[1:05:09] rezoned to see for with the

[1:05:10] commitment that it would not

[1:05:11] be used for an automobile

[1:05:13] feeling station on that basis.

[1:05:15] My client did not remind

[1:05:16] straight there was settlement

[1:05:19] back in 2016, those

[1:05:22] commitments recorded in 2070.

[1:05:24] So my point was there long

[1:05:25] before that was involved what

[1:05:25] was happening at this

[1:05:32] location. The this is our 7th

[1:05:32] hearing on this matter. 7

[1:05:37] Terry. We had a hearing in

[1:05:39] 2002 in front of the hearing

[1:05:42] examiner to modify the

[1:05:43] commitments, takeout. They

[1:05:44] want to do it they wanted to

[1:05:45] have a few links. This

[1:05:45] prohibition against a fueling

[1:05:49] station taken out. We did that

[1:05:52] and they they lost that the

[1:05:53] hearing and you have this in

[1:05:55] your path that the hearing

[1:05:57] examiner Judy Works held duty

[1:06:00] awards hall had a substantial

[1:06:02] hearing. There on straight

[1:06:03] ers. The record. We had all

[1:06:04] kinds of signatures from

[1:06:06] people that didn't want hurt

[1:06:07] MISTER, MR. Khan, talk about

[1:06:08] some of those signatures in

[1:06:11] the most recent hearing. They

[1:06:13] had no support in that hearing

[1:06:15] from anybody that appear

[1:06:16] before Judy for the hearing

[1:06:20] examiner. I think that

[1:06:22] representative or of

[1:06:23] commission COUNCILMAN Else get

[1:06:26] it right here. Council mass

[1:06:27] Kerry had been indicated to be

[1:06:30] in favor of this along council

[1:06:33] COUNCILMAN Bill. But in 2002,

[1:06:38] the hearing examiner deny,

[1:06:38] made a negative

[1:06:40] recommendation. It went in

[1:06:41] front of a full Metropolitan

[1:06:42] Development Commission in 2002

[1:06:46] to remove this staff was

[1:06:47] against it. Staff said staff

[1:06:48] said that this is not a proper

[1:06:51] use at this location. You have

[1:06:53] I hope a copy of the staff

[1:06:55] report which is substantial.

[1:06:57] It's basically been the same

[1:07:04] report 3 times in 2022 2024

[1:07:05] 2026 saying that this is not

[1:07:10] an appropriate use McCAnn, a

[1:07:11] which counsels critical love.

[1:07:16] Sounds to me the the Marion

[1:07:17] County Alliance of

[1:07:19] Neighborhood Associations

[1:07:22] saying Iit's PRESIDENT Wrote a

[1:07:25] letter and 2022 saying that

[1:07:27] that zoning didn't provide

[1:07:29] Fort. The comp plan didn't

[1:07:30] provide for, you know, the

[1:07:32] comp plan's not some ancient

[1:07:34] document that was done in

[1:07:34] 2016, 2017 approved by the

[1:07:35] Metropolitan Development

[1:07:37] Commission. And and approved

[1:07:39] by the council. What is the

[1:07:41] comp plan say about this? It's

[1:07:44] not supposed to be c for you

[1:07:45] says and I'll get into that

[1:07:48] typology as to what's

[1:07:49] proposed. So Mike Hanna wrote

[1:07:51] a letter and I I guess I

[1:07:55] thought that McKenna has it's

[1:07:58] as as the whole Marion County

[1:08:00] Alliance, the the umbrella

[1:08:02] Group had some understanding

[1:08:06] of what could and should be

[1:08:07] billed. And staff rode a

[1:08:08] report that said that the

[1:08:10] property should not be rezone.

[1:08:11] Let me go back to the

[1:08:14] purchase. You know, this was

[1:08:17] vacant and it was in bad

[1:08:20] shape. In 19. I'm sorry in

[1:08:24] 2022. On llc bought the

[1:08:26] subject property for $199,999.

[1:08:28] You should have the sales

[1:08:29] report. Whether you've looked

[1:08:31] at or not. I don't that

[1:08:31] there's a dispute it was in

[1:08:35] bad shape it was purchased.

[1:08:38] Had an assessed value at the

[1:08:39] time of 188,500 for the

[1:08:41] disclosure document that was

[1:08:44] signed by. So wind are saying

[1:08:51] for on llc and the address

[1:08:52] given for that entity. Amadeo

[1:08:56] Elsie was 1, 3, 1, ditch road

[1:08:57] Carmel, Indiana, which turns

[1:08:58] out to be the residents of

[1:09:00] South Wind are saying and his

[1:09:04] wife, cower, which Carmel

[1:09:07] shown that be 3.9 one acres

[1:09:08] with an assessed value of 3.6,

[1:09:09] 5 million dollars. They did.

[1:09:11] Well, the U.S. Couple did

[1:09:12] well. Lot of gas stations

[1:09:15] through a lot of places. They

[1:09:16] bought this property. This

[1:09:17] property was purchased. This

[1:09:20] property was purchased with

[1:09:23] knowledge that there was a

[1:09:24] commitment and this puts the

[1:09:27] first petition 2022 was filed

[1:09:29] 4 months after it was

[1:09:30] purchased for $199,000. Hardly

[1:09:33] ink was dry on the sales

[1:09:37] disclosure document. The

[1:09:38] hearing examiner at one of the

[1:09:38] hearings. I've been at all 6

[1:09:39] hearings, the hearing examiner

[1:09:40] at one of the hearings asked.

[1:09:45] MR. Wind are saying were you

[1:09:47] aware that there was this

[1:09:47] commitment on the property

[1:09:49] when you bought when I'm on

[1:09:49] board? The answer was yes. So

[1:09:53] we have a savvy businessman

[1:09:54] who bought this property

[1:09:56] knowing that that commitment

[1:09:57] was there. I've been at this

[1:09:58] for 49 years. It'll be 50 in

[1:10:02] OCTOBER. People don't buy

[1:10:04] commercial property with if

[1:10:05] they have if they have certain

[1:10:06] contingencies that have to be

[1:10:10] met and this wasn't that

[1:10:12] MISTER, MR. I'll I'll see. But

[1:10:13] MR. Winter sing bought it

[1:10:14] knowing that this commitment

[1:10:15] was there and then immediately

[1:10:19] came to the hearing examiner

[1:10:20] asked for a group Reese

[1:10:26] rescission of that We then

[1:10:27] we've after after the hearing

[1:10:33] examiner declined to make a

[1:10:33] positive recommendation. We

[1:10:34] had a full hearing in front of

[1:10:36] the Metropolitan Development

[1:10:38] Commission and the

[1:10:40] Metropolitan Development

[1:10:40] Commission in 2022. Did not

[1:10:42] give relief from the from the

[1:10:43] commitment that there should

[1:10:45] not be a gas station on here

[1:10:46] on the basis that it wasn't

[1:10:49] zone for it. The comprehensive

[1:10:50] plan certainly didn't call for

[1:10:52] As a matter of fact, the

[1:10:53] comprehensive plan, which I

[1:10:55] expect you all are familiar

[1:10:57] with, provides that there's

[1:10:59] not even to be a auto fueling

[1:11:03] facility in. This is in the in

[1:11:05] in the comprehensive plan for

[1:11:06] this property. So there are

[1:11:08] way outside the comp plan. Can

[1:11:11] I see going to can I see that

[1:11:12] map? We can you put that up

[1:11:14] there? I don't know whether

[1:11:15] you love seeing all the

[1:11:18] exhibits or not. Are several

[1:11:21] gas stations in this area. As

[1:11:22] a matter of fact, there are 5

[1:11:26] there were 5 at the time that

[1:11:26] this there's there's You can

[1:11:30] see on the map. Can you? Turn

[1:11:31] it so that you can show all

[1:11:33] the different gas stations

[1:11:34] between between the

[1:11:35] interchange at Keystone

[1:11:41] Avenue. Can you turn it a

[1:11:42] little bit between the

[1:11:44] interchange at Keystone Avenue

[1:11:45] and this property of 4,000

[1:11:46] South Keystone, there are 5

[1:11:49] gas stations, one of which is

[1:11:54] owned by g GOD llc or thank a

[1:11:58] principle of which is MR. Wind

[1:11:59] are saying and for Paul cars,

[1:12:01] the resident agent that 1, 3,

[1:12:02] 1, Carmel, Indiana, one of

[1:12:04] their other gas stations. So

[1:12:06] they've got 1, 7, tenths of a

[1:12:07] mile within 7 tenths of a mile

[1:12:10] of this station. There are 5

[1:12:12] other of this location. There

[1:12:16] are 5 other gas stations and

[1:12:17] there and I might add that in

[1:12:21] 2026. You rezoned after a

[1:12:22] hearing in front of the

[1:12:23] Metropolitan Development

[1:12:26] Commission, another parcel

[1:12:30] that is that is in 0, 7 acre

[1:12:32] stretch 2 c 4, which would

[1:12:34] allow for yet another gas

[1:12:36] station and plans were even 5

[1:12:37] with the Metropolitan

[1:12:37] Development Commission for

[1:12:40] that other So there are lots

[1:12:42] of gas stations in here. So so

[1:12:48] we don't have we have this

[1:12:51] attempt to to take up the

[1:12:52] modification the 2022, we come

[1:12:53] back and try the same thing in

[1:12:59] 2024. Same thing. In 2023. The

[1:13:03] financial report of

[1:13:03] representative of Scary and

[1:13:08] COUNCILMAN Dealt show $1100

[1:13:09] contribution to their

[1:13:11] campaigns or their their funds

[1:13:13] from South Wind are saying

[1:13:16] $1100 each and then in 2024,

[1:13:18] when we come back for the

[1:13:19] second time we have we have a

[1:13:21] letter of support that

[1:13:23] COUNCILMAN Matt Scary. He's

[1:13:26] written saying they ought to

[1:13:30] get gas by that time in 2024,

[1:13:31] there is a convenience store

[1:13:32] bill and it is nice. I can

[1:13:33] tell you it is nice. Brick

[1:13:34] looks good. Counsel's told

[1:13:37] about the pictures. It looks

[1:13:39] really good. No gas station,

[1:13:41] south wind or sing comes to

[1:13:42] the hearing in 2024. Before

[1:13:43] the Metropolitan Development

[1:13:44] Commission. And this asked by

[1:13:47] one of the commissioners, if

[1:13:48] you don't get this reason, if

[1:13:50] you don't get this relief from

[1:13:51] this commitment for hitting

[1:13:52] you from selling gas, are you

[1:13:56] going to open it? And he says

[1:13:56] I'm not going open that. We

[1:13:57] can play the tape. If you need

[1:13:58] to lights part of the pack

[1:14:00] that that we that we submitted

[1:14:02] to you. And if you want to see

[1:14:03] the tape, we can play with us.

[1:14:05] I'm not going open it. He

[1:14:07] loses in front of the mdc. The

[1:14:07] mdc says we're not going to

[1:14:11] give you relief. Staff says

[1:14:11] you shouldn't have relief.

[1:14:12] It's not suitable. There's

[1:14:15] adjacent residential here. It

[1:14:15] doesn't fit with a gas

[1:14:18] station. That's a high

[1:14:21] intensity. Use. They lose that

[1:14:22] they failed to get positive

[1:14:22] result in that case. Now we

[1:14:25] come back in 2024. And here we

[1:14:28] are again. And now we have

[1:14:29] because they couldn't take

[1:14:31] that appealed to you or to

[1:14:31] anybody else because

[1:14:33] modification of the commitment

[1:14:36] is not appealable. So they

[1:14:38] come back and file acs

[1:14:38] rezoning. They want to have

[1:14:41] commercial special use and

[1:14:43] guess what the special uses on

[1:14:44] this property, a gas station.

[1:14:48] So now we're back for the 5th

[1:14:49] time on a gas station in for a

[1:14:51] the Metropolitan front of the

[1:14:53] hearing examiner who once

[1:14:55] again rules that there

[1:14:55] shouldn't be a gas station at

[1:14:57] this location. Recommended

[1:15:00] recommendation of denial. And

[1:15:02] then we go to the Metropolitan

[1:15:03] Development Commission earlier

[1:15:07] this year. Councils there. I'm

[1:15:11] there. The parties are there.

[1:15:11] And again, the Metropolitan

[1:15:13] Development Commission rules

[1:15:14] that the property should not

[1:15:16] be re-zoned for a gas station.

[1:15:17] Every one of these times it

[1:15:19] every one of these cases, the

[1:15:21] staff has written a report

[1:15:23] that is basically the same

[1:15:27] saying this doesn't belong

[1:15:28] here. The comprehensive plan

[1:15:29] doesn't contemplate it. The

[1:15:32] zoning doesn't contemplate it.

[1:15:34] A gas station doesn't belong

[1:15:35] at this location. We don't

[1:15:36] need another gas station.

[1:15:37] That's what mechanics. That's

[1:15:39] what my client negotiated for

[1:15:44] way. Back in 2022 in this map,

[1:15:45] you'll see that there are 5

[1:15:46] other gas stations. We've just

[1:15:47] had a rezoning that would

[1:15:49] allow for a 6th and now they

[1:15:50] want to have another gas

[1:15:52] station. Let me say. When the

[1:15:54] when I'm on bought this

[1:15:56] property, a man who headed up

[1:16:00] by MR. Supporters say. And the

[1:16:01] original hearing, he said he

[1:16:07] said. Want to get this wrong.

[1:16:08] Online. Llc owns and operates

[1:16:10] a total of 40 filling stations

[1:16:11] and convenience stores

[1:16:13] Indianapolis Metro area. No

[1:16:13] complaints or violations from

[1:16:15] local, state or federal

[1:16:17] government has been in

[1:16:17] business many years. Well,

[1:16:18] that's true. He's been very

[1:16:20] successful. I don't know about

[1:16:21] the complaint because in this

[1:16:23] case we've got a lot of

[1:16:26] complaints. We've got zoning

[1:16:26] violations since this since

[1:16:29] convenience store opened in

[1:16:31] 2024, we've got we've got

[1:16:32] violations from the Marion

[1:16:35] County Health Department,

[1:16:36] which you have in the packet

[1:16:37] that was given you and I can

[1:16:38] go through the specifics of

[1:16:41] them. If you want. Time is

[1:16:42] limited here. And so I'm not

[1:16:44] sure there's been such good

[1:16:45] vetting of the operations that

[1:16:50] are conducted by on llc or

[1:16:52] other or related entities. Him

[1:16:55] to say that there haven't been

[1:16:56] violations at this location

[1:16:58] since it opened in 2024. Is

[1:16:59] not right. There have been

[1:17:01] violations and it's in your

[1:17:02] packet. We can we can go

[1:17:03] through them specifically if

[1:17:07] you want signage violations,

[1:17:10] there's somebody by the name

[1:17:11] will Mahar llc. That's also

[1:17:15] cited as a violator in 2025.

[1:17:17] 2026 after the stores open in

[1:17:22] your pack. Mahar llc, uproar

[1:17:23] Mahar is apparently operator.

[1:17:24] I guess a tenant. There's

[1:17:26] referenced in the report from

[1:17:27] the this is a neighborhood

[1:17:29] services department. The

[1:17:31] inspector that Mahar as a

[1:17:33] tenant and there are

[1:17:35] violations of zoning

[1:17:36] ordinances, signage. And then

[1:17:38] the Marin County Health

[1:17:40] Department apparently got a

[1:17:42] bounced check from the Har llc

[1:17:43] for its license. I don't even

[1:17:44] know that's licensed. My point

[1:17:46] of all, this is well council

[1:17:51] wants to make MR. Some wonder

[1:17:58] saying our online llc, gist of

[1:17:58] just an absolute Abbott Haro

[1:17:59] of performance. I'm telling

[1:18:00] you that at this station, if

[1:18:02] you look at the documents that

[1:18:04] we've submitted, the owner of

[1:18:04] this property MAY not be the

[1:18:08] operator MAY be Mahar llc is

[1:18:10] in fact the operator or the

[1:18:12] tenant there have been several

[1:18:16] violations at this location.

[1:18:17] So now that that that doesn't

[1:18:19] reflect well upon an extension

[1:18:22] of the of the other use.

[1:18:23] Council's asked for her. I'm

[1:18:29] going to say. In conclusion is

[1:18:30] appreciated. That zoning is a

[1:18:32] legislative function made by

[1:18:32] the body politic. And that is

[1:18:35] you, however, the record in

[1:18:38] this case does not support the

[1:18:39] rezoning army to allow this

[1:18:40] property have a fueling

[1:18:42] station. With all due respect

[1:18:42] to the counselors who have

[1:18:45] supported that. Calling up of

[1:18:48] this matter and with

[1:18:48] recognition of the

[1:18:50] relationship of Wind are

[1:18:50] saying they've won 3, 1, ditch

[1:18:53] road in Carmel as a supporter

[1:18:54] of them in with the

[1:18:55] recognition of the new

[1:18:56] convenience store at the site

[1:18:57] being an improvement over

[1:19:00] previous structure. So the

[1:19:00] site there is nothing

[1:19:04] substantive to support this

[1:19:06] rezoning on bought the

[1:19:09] property for almost $200,000

[1:19:11] in 2022. Bill to permit a

[1:19:12] convenience store was well

[1:19:15] aware of the commitments there

[1:19:17] on received the benefit of its

[1:19:18] bargain. That exactly where

[1:19:20] part floor and then decided to

[1:19:22] go ahead. And I let me say

[1:19:24] that I have never heard

[1:19:25] anything about all this

[1:19:25] negotiation, but well, we'll

[1:19:26] go ahead and build a

[1:19:27] convenience store to see how

[1:19:28] it goes. We've got a guy that

[1:19:32] we have an entity, a principal

[1:19:34] of that entity who has I think

[1:19:35] I thought I heard council said

[1:19:38] maybe 100 locations, 100

[1:19:40] businesses and and went ahead

[1:19:42] and built this convenience

[1:19:43] store without gas. And now

[1:19:45] comes in now for the 7th time

[1:19:47] after 6, the Niles by the

[1:19:51] hearing examiner, the mdc

[1:19:51] seeking a gas station. I want

[1:19:52] to talk a little bit about

[1:19:56] about the of the staff report.

[1:19:59] For a run out of time. The

[1:20:06] staffer for provided in part

[1:20:07] The request would rezone the

[1:20:08] site to siesta provide for c 3

[1:20:11] uses automobile fueling

[1:20:13] station. The cs designed is

[1:20:14] designed to permit within a

[1:20:17] single zoning district. Multi

[1:20:18] use commercial complexes or

[1:20:21] land use combinations of

[1:20:22] commercial and non-commercial

[1:20:24] uses for single use commercial

[1:20:25] projects. Then the staff

[1:20:26] report goes on to say the

[1:20:30] special commercial district is

[1:20:32] that is established for the

[1:20:33] following purposes. One to

[1:20:35] encourage a more creative

[1:20:36] approach in land, planning

[1:20:37] superior site and structural

[1:20:38] design and development to to

[1:20:39] provide for use of land with a

[1:20:42] highly functional news. 3 to

[1:20:43] ensure compatibility with land

[1:20:45] uses both within cs and

[1:20:49] adjacent areas for to permit

[1:20:51] special consideration of

[1:20:51] property with outstanding

[1:20:52] features, including but not

[1:20:53] limited to store or potential

[1:20:57] or social significance. To

[1:20:58] provide maximum adaptability

[1:20:59] and flexibility in zoning and

[1:21:02] development controls to meet

[1:21:03] the changing and diverse needs

[1:21:04] of metropolitan area. Here's

[1:21:10] what staff concludes in 2026.

[1:21:11] Staff believes that the

[1:21:14] development of this site with

[1:21:15] a gasoline station does not

[1:21:16] align with any of the above

[1:21:17] purposes that the ordinance

[1:21:20] outlines for the cs District.

[1:21:22] It is already zoned c 4, which

[1:21:25] permits 59 primary land uses.

[1:21:29] An additional. Specific I'm

[1:21:32] sorry land uses and 26

[1:21:32] accessory uses. Furthermore,

[1:21:35] many of those land, land

[1:21:36] categories identify additional

[1:21:38] specific uses within the Cold

[1:21:41] War in staff's opinion. The

[1:21:42] site as many permitted uses

[1:21:43] that would serve the

[1:21:43] surrounding neighborhood and

[1:21:46] support the plan. The other

[1:21:48] thing I want to talk about the

[1:21:50] comp plan. Staff believes that

[1:21:52] the convenience stores

[1:21:53] improvement of the site that

[1:21:54] fallen into Disrepair, and

[1:21:56] supports the plan.

[1:21:57] Recommendations of village

[1:22:01] mixed use. However. Further

[1:22:02] development of the site for an

[1:22:03] automobile feeling station

[1:22:04] would increase the commercial

[1:22:06] intensity and encroachments

[1:22:06] that would be detrimental to

[1:22:10] the surrounding land uses. But

[1:22:11] introducing increased traffic

[1:22:13] noise, lighting trash into the

[1:22:14] area council talked about a

[1:22:16] traffic study. There is no

[1:22:18] traffic study. I haven't seen

[1:22:19] a traffic study. There was no

[1:22:20] traffic's that there were some

[1:22:21] traffic counts that were put

[1:22:24] in a traffic study as you I'm

[1:22:26] sure know. It's something that

[1:22:27] either Dmd can request or

[1:22:29] individual can voluntarily do.

[1:22:31] That was not done in this

[1:22:33] case. They're going to be more

[1:22:34] stops in and out of the

[1:22:36] station if going to be gas

[1:22:41] there, there's a residential

[1:22:43] zoning as as the staff report

[1:22:48] points out to the East d 3

[1:22:48] single-family dwelling zoning.

[1:22:49] So now we're going to put it.

[1:22:51] They want to put a gas station

[1:22:54] that's going to operate. 24 7

[1:22:56] next to dwellings. 3

[1:22:57] incompatible use. And the comp

[1:22:58] plan says it shouldn't.

[1:23:00] Shouldn't be used to. The last

[1:23:01] thing I want to talk about in

[1:23:04] the comp plan is the specifics

[1:23:05] of the village mixed use

[1:23:08] Typology, which is what this

[1:23:10] is. And then in in their their

[1:23:12] is a specific statement in the

[1:23:14] comp plan approved by. The

[1:23:16] commission and and and I

[1:23:22] council. No fueling stations.

[1:23:22] So the comp plan expressly

[1:23:26] calls us out. Based upon this.

[1:23:29] We respectfully request come

[1:23:33] that the council go along with

[1:23:37] the past 6 recommendations.

[1:23:39] From the mdc and that hearing

[1:23:40] examiner and not allow fueling

[1:23:41] station. Thank you for your

[1:23:42] time. Happy to take any

[1:23:46] questions. Thank you. This

[1:23:47] matter matter was advertised

[1:23:48] for public hearing. And I will

[1:23:51] now call on public comment

[1:23:52] from anyone in attendance. His

[1:23:53] interest in the matter has not

[1:23:55] already been included, are

[1:23:57] discussed any way by either

[1:23:59] side. If you have submitted a

[1:24:00] letter or email or sign

[1:24:02] petition for either side or if

[1:24:06] you are neighborhood resident

[1:24:07] who has already been

[1:24:08] represented by chosen

[1:24:09] spokesperson. Your comments

[1:24:10] will have to be included in

[1:24:12] the remaining time. A lot of

[1:24:14] for rebuttal comments from

[1:24:15] anyone whose interest has not

[1:24:18] been covered by either side

[1:24:19] are limited to 2 minutes per

[1:24:20] individual. And once again,

[1:24:21] our clerk will be setting the

[1:24:24] timer so that you will. Know,

[1:24:25] when your time is up, please

[1:24:26] be respectful of the time and

[1:24:28] conclude your comments when

[1:24:30] you hear that. But are will

[1:24:32] begin by checking in with

[1:24:34] MADAM Clerk for any names. Are

[1:24:35] it of individuals who have

[1:24:36] signed up to give public

[1:24:37] testimony on this matter?

[1:24:52] MADAM Clerk.

[1:25:07] Thank you Hello.

[1:25:07] My name is Jacob Morales. I

[1:25:12] live in District 13. We're 6

[1:25:13] to 0, 1, I'm here to remind

[1:25:15] straight against the gas

[1:25:18] station. In fact, you'll

[1:25:20] probably find the rim on

[1:25:21] straining against any gas

[1:25:22] station. I believe that there

[1:25:22] way too many gas stations here

[1:25:26] in Marion County. In not just

[1:25:26] 5 in the area. There are 2

[1:25:31] within 1000 feet. This current

[1:25:33] location. I also like to make

[1:25:34] it quick correction to

[1:25:36] something that the up

[1:25:40] Petitioner said. He said one

[1:25:42] that I bring in this gas

[1:25:44] station that it will attract

[1:25:45] new business is right. It's

[1:25:47] going to bring more people to

[1:25:48] the area, more shopping, more

[1:25:50] businesses. That sounds great.

[1:25:51] And then it goes to contradict

[1:25:54] himself by saying that the

[1:25:55] traffic study there will be no

[1:25:56] more traffic. Actually, it's

[1:25:57] going to be exactly the same.

[1:25:59] So which is it? And then he

[1:26:00] goes on to talk about

[1:26:04] capitalism and how despite

[1:26:04] selling, you know, great

[1:26:05] goods, fresh foods, fresh

[1:26:09] meats. Sounds like a bodega.

[1:26:10] He will not be able to survive

[1:26:11] that they will not be able to

[1:26:16] survive business. And gee, I

[1:26:17] wonder why bodegas thrive on

[1:26:18] having really any housing I'm

[1:26:21] going to just hold this up for

[1:26:22] people in the audience just to

[1:26:23] kind of see what the

[1:26:26] intersection looks like. Does

[1:26:28] this look like a with some

[1:26:29] counselors MAY describe as a

[1:26:33] as a smart city as as some

[1:26:35] place where people can go to

[1:26:36] support their local

[1:26:36] businesses. Small the day is

[1:26:39] like this can stay in

[1:26:40] business. It. I don't think

[1:26:41] so. This is just going to be

[1:26:44] another case of one gas

[1:26:46] station, catty corner to

[1:26:48] another, maybe eventually for

[1:26:50] lucky. We'll get a used tire

[1:26:54] shop. Who knows? But with that

[1:26:56] said, I just like to wrap up

[1:26:57] way too many gas stations.

[1:27:00] Please, please, please urge

[1:27:02] the mdc to either enact a

[1:27:03] moratorium, especially

[1:27:03] especially along public

[1:27:04] transit routes. These routes

[1:27:07] are designed for buses. We

[1:27:08] should not be adding more cars

[1:27:11] into makes which honestly.

[1:27:12] Mentioned safety as well.

[1:27:16] Right? What that people are

[1:27:17] afraid to cross the street in

[1:27:19] their vehicles or on foot and

[1:27:20] thank you so much for your

[1:27:25] time. Thank you. Are there any

[1:27:27] is there anyone else in the

[1:27:29] audience that wishes to speak

[1:27:33] zoning case? Please state your

[1:27:33] name. Hi. My name is Randy

[1:27:39] Berryman. I would like to ask.

[1:27:40] It's normal for a PRESIDENT

[1:27:42] For McCAnn. A to write a

[1:27:43] letter numerous times on the

[1:27:46] exact same thing. I would also

[1:27:48] like to draw attention that

[1:27:48] we've had more time hearing

[1:27:51] about a gas station. Then we

[1:27:53] have the entire time public

[1:27:54] speaking about data centers in

[1:28:11] India. Additional comments. At

[1:28:12] this time last the petition

[1:28:13] air that you can use remaining

[1:28:17] of your time for any other

[1:28:18] additional comments are

[1:28:19] rebuttal. MADAM Clerk, how

[1:28:22] much time is remaining? John 4

[1:28:29] minutes? 10 seconds. Thank one

[1:28:30] thing of interest, I would

[1:28:31] tell you that in the last

[1:28:35] hearing. There were 3 votes

[1:28:36] for many votes. And for me, it

[1:28:41] is. In the 3 votes I think are

[1:28:42] interesting because one was

[1:28:45] John Dillon Husel CHAIRMAN,

[1:28:46] the zoning appeals board. The

[1:28:51] other one is Brandon. Her get.

[1:28:52] Who is many of, you know, was

[1:28:53] head of the Department of

[1:28:55] Public Works. And Bridgette

[1:28:59] Robinson. Those 3 people voted

[1:29:04] yes, to allow. And I think

[1:29:04] those 3 people program as much

[1:29:07] knowledge anybody about zoning

[1:29:08] and what's needed and not

[1:29:13] needed. The other thing is I

[1:29:14] we know what to say about the

[1:29:20] comment. COUNCILMAN Miscarry

[1:29:24] getting political donations.

[1:29:27] 19 or 2023 Wilson Election

[1:29:29] Year where he had of opponent

[1:29:34] and many of us and this

[1:29:34] actually attended fundraisers

[1:29:38] on his behalf. And I and I

[1:29:39] take I can believe somebody

[1:29:44] would bring that up. This is

[1:29:45] just told you something about

[1:29:51] the people. Again, when you

[1:29:53] look at the people that voted

[1:29:55] for this, obviously he didn't

[1:29:56] bring one thing up about the

[1:29:58] all the petitions. They filed

[1:29:59] 190 petitions. Not one word

[1:30:01] about those will be almost all

[1:30:03] phony that were presented as

[1:30:05] evidence in the last couple.

[1:30:07] He runs and we finally decided

[1:30:08] to serve making phone calls

[1:30:09] because we're getting phone

[1:30:11] calls from some people say I

[1:30:13] never signing the petition and

[1:30:16] plus a limb for this. And he

[1:30:17] made the best. What best for

[1:30:20] you when you made was for for

[1:30:21] should add is that all these

[1:30:21] people who live on the east

[1:30:27] side of this. Older people

[1:30:28] sink are very elderly

[1:30:30] pensions, etcetera. And

[1:30:33] they're the ones that sign the

[1:30:36] petitions for us to allow

[1:30:38] guests so they would have to

[1:30:42] be able to get go there and

[1:30:42] get food and not have that.

[1:30:44] Can not a of the store clothes

[1:30:48] so you know, MR. Is a very

[1:30:53] good businessman. He was

[1:30:53] trying. It is trying to do

[1:30:54] something positive for this

[1:30:55] area where he lived for many

[1:31:00] years. You know, they keep

[1:31:00] talking about we're going to

[1:31:01] bring in all you can bring in

[1:31:03] all these other businesses.

[1:31:05] You know, many businesses

[1:31:06] contacted our office or MISTER

[1:31:07] Saying about wanting to come

[1:31:14] in there. 0. 2017, not one.

[1:31:15] And then well, you can put you

[1:31:21] can put a a 2 story apartments

[1:31:23] in there. If you knew the site

[1:31:28] that's impossible. This is

[1:31:30] tough site we've got gentleman

[1:31:31] as well. And he's already

[1:31:33] spent over a million dollars

[1:31:34] to try to make it work and

[1:31:35] he's willing to go forward and

[1:31:37] do that with gas. But you

[1:31:38] don't get gas on or what might

[1:31:40] happen. So. Thank you very

[1:31:42] take questions now are thank

[1:31:45] you, MR. Khan, thank you both

[1:31:46] for your presentation this

[1:31:46] evening. At this time, any

[1:31:50] council who wishes to speak be

[1:31:52] a lot of 2 minutes for each

[1:31:53] question and for debate Sony

[1:31:55] regarding this zoning case.

[1:31:57] Pete, please be advised that

[1:31:59] you will be limited to 2

[1:31:59] minutes in order to be

[1:32:01] respectful of the published

[1:32:04] process everyone else's time.

[1:32:10] Additional comments counts are

[1:32:12] this is just a simple

[1:32:13] question. Scary. But basically

[1:32:15] you as a district council

[1:32:17] believe that and gas service

[1:32:19] at this location would benefit

[1:32:22] your constituents. Yes,

[1:32:23] absolutely. You recently

[1:32:26] Walmart families closed

[1:32:27] actually east of this is the

[1:32:31] and a commons. And has a 60

[1:32:33] homeless folks they need to

[1:32:34] going of food. They've been

[1:32:38] going to this also. The

[1:32:39] Wal-Marts is going to reopen

[1:32:40] it in end of the month.

[1:32:43] Believe. But I think it says a

[1:32:46] gas war simple as that. The

[1:32:47] only re monsters we have is

[1:32:47] the other gas stations

[1:32:51] counseling. Additional

[1:32:54] comments. Cancer kale. Thank

[1:32:57] you, MADAM PRESIDENT, this

[1:32:58] property is immediately across

[1:33:01] the street from the council

[1:33:02] boundaries. So COUNCILMAN

[1:33:04] Scary has the east side of

[1:33:05] Keystone eye of the West. And

[1:33:08] in fact, just to the south of

[1:33:08] here, actually both sides of

[1:33:12] the street in Roselle Hills. I

[1:33:13] have heard that for as long as

[1:33:16] been going on. I've heard from

[1:33:17] in particular Rosedale Hills,

[1:33:20] but I from from some people in

[1:33:21] University Heights that are

[1:33:22] both adjacent neighborhoods

[1:33:25] that they are in favor of

[1:33:26] this. That the it really

[1:33:30] didn't get discussed here. But

[1:33:31] the property across the street

[1:33:32] that's in my district is

[1:33:33] almost completely abandoned

[1:33:35] strip mall. As a result, we

[1:33:37] have a lot of crime occurring

[1:33:39] there. To your point, there is

[1:33:40] additional housing being built

[1:33:44] my district the residents are

[1:33:45] senior citizens that have

[1:33:47] expressed an interest to this

[1:33:51] new location as well. And I

[1:33:52] can say that I've worked much

[1:33:52] of my career in the

[1:33:55] convenience store industry and

[1:33:57] the reality is this is a

[1:33:58] suburban environment and

[1:34:00] making non gas convenience

[1:34:02] store is it's just almost

[1:34:04] impossible. There was one in

[1:34:07] your district. For 31. It just

[1:34:08] closed a couple weeks ago. I

[1:34:08] never knew how they were going

[1:34:11] to make it without gas and

[1:34:12] they did. And so the neighbors

[1:34:16] have communicated to me

[1:34:17] repeatedly that they are

[1:34:18] supportive of this because it

[1:34:19] is some kind of development

[1:34:20] here. Comment. There isn't any

[1:34:22] other interest. I wish there

[1:34:24] was because I'd love for

[1:34:25] something to be built on my

[1:34:27] side of the street. But this

[1:34:28] is the best thing that has

[1:34:30] come along and so on. I'm

[1:34:31] certainly gonna support. Thank

[1:34:33] you. Thank you. Additional

[1:34:35] comments counselors, Brown.

[1:34:39] Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT.

[1:34:40] Want to try to be brief in

[1:34:41] respect Seminoles are getting

[1:34:42] late. I first wanted to call

[1:34:47] out. Just ridiculous it is to

[1:34:49] pretend like money wouldn't be

[1:34:51] given to politicians to get a

[1:34:52] political outcome. I think

[1:34:53] that's just flatly absurd on

[1:34:57] its face, especially when what

[1:34:58] happened was not $1100 was

[1:34:58] given to just come from a

[1:35:00] scary it was going also the

[1:35:03] same amount to cause a And

[1:35:04] it's a rare person who lives

[1:35:06] in Carmel, Indiana, who feel

[1:35:07] so strongly about Indianapolis

[1:35:08] politics that they want to

[1:35:09] both help a Republican and a

[1:35:10] Democrat win on the south side

[1:35:13] of town. It's probably not

[1:35:14] being motivated by their

[1:35:15] sincerely held beliefs. It's

[1:35:16] probably being motivated by

[1:35:17] who they think could scratch

[1:35:19] their back a little bit later.

[1:35:20] That doesn't seem like a

[1:35:20] ridiculous thing to state. It

[1:35:23] seems comes it suggests that

[1:35:25] as as Mr Khan mentioned, there

[1:35:27] are many other people in the

[1:35:29] room, you know, that's Gave

[1:35:31] $500 council escape that same

[1:35:33] year. Yeah. So you're right.

[1:35:34] There are a lot of people who

[1:35:35] get engaged in this type of

[1:35:36] business. I don't think that

[1:35:37] makes it right and that I

[1:35:37] don't think that means we

[1:35:40] shouldn't be questioning it. I

[1:35:42] don't know if this is true. I

[1:35:43] believe I might be the

[1:35:44] counselor who lives closest to

[1:35:46] a gas station. I'm 1.5 blocks.

[1:35:50] I'm not anybody has b b.

[1:35:51] Whenever police are called in

[1:35:52] my neighborhood, it's to the

[1:35:52] gas station. That's a block

[1:35:55] and a half from my house.

[1:35:55] Whenever people leave their

[1:35:58] rolling papers whenever people

[1:36:00] leave their drug paraphernalia

[1:36:00] when shootings happened a gas

[1:36:04] station near my house. You

[1:36:07] heard one of my constituents

[1:36:07] speak-up earlier about what

[1:36:08] I've heard consistently, which

[1:36:09] is we do not need any more gas

[1:36:11] stations in the city and most

[1:36:12] constituents feel the way most

[1:36:13] people don't want to live near

[1:36:15] a gas station, which is why

[1:36:16] MISTER Doesn't live near a gas

[1:36:18] station. He lives up Carmel,

[1:36:19] not here in Indianapolis,

[1:36:21] close to the 6 gas stations

[1:36:22] owned sites that we're talking

[1:36:23] about. Finally, I just want to

[1:36:26] point out that this room, at

[1:36:28] least this half of the room is

[1:36:29] filled with people who have

[1:36:29] been participating and hearing

[1:36:31] examiner hearings and hearings

[1:36:35] in front of mdc. And they've

[1:36:36] had very, very little ability

[1:36:39] to hold developers

[1:36:39] accountable, very little

[1:36:40] ability. The one thing they

[1:36:42] can do is with commitments.

[1:36:43] And right now was watching a

[1:36:44] developer just wanting to

[1:36:45] throw commitments in the trash

[1:36:47] for business sense. What

[1:36:48] message are we sending in

[1:36:49] terms of corruption and in

[1:36:51] terms of accountability of

[1:36:51] vote for this tonight is right

[1:36:57] now. Additional comments will

[1:37:03] counselors. CHAIRMAN, scary

[1:37:05] Thank you. Thank you. MADAM

[1:37:06] PRESIDENT, you know, one test

[1:37:09] and one thing in 2010 or 11

[1:37:14] when Iran first time $0

[1:37:16] anyone. I played the game

[1:37:18] raise $3,000 of my own. I

[1:37:21] believe in it. It took no

[1:37:22] money. No one and I want so

[1:37:26] here nor there campaign many

[1:37:27] people taking thousands

[1:37:32] dollars to get this job. But

[1:37:33] like I said before, the only

[1:37:38] Vermont stated we have. Is

[1:37:40] another gas station. MADAM

[1:37:40] PRESIDENT elect for reasons

[1:37:44] I've already stated, I move.

[1:37:45] City council overturned

[1:37:47] emitted from Development

[1:37:48] Commission's decision

[1:37:50] regarding proposal. Number 2,

[1:37:54] 6, 2026 rezoning case 2025

[1:37:58] zone 84. Approving the

[1:38:01] petition. I so move. The

[1:38:03] motion has been properly moved

[1:38:05] and seconded according to

[1:38:08] state 3, this majority vote,

[1:38:09] which is 15 votes is required

[1:38:12] to overturn any zoning

[1:38:13] decision certified to the

[1:38:14] council by the Metropolitan

[1:38:16] Development Commission. Any Vo

[1:38:17] less than 15 Shelby declare

[1:38:19] indecisive in the proposal.

[1:38:22] Shell take effect pursuant to

[1:38:26] I c 36. That's 7 dash 4 dash

[1:38:30] 608, based on MISS Carries

[1:38:31] motion a yea vote will be a

[1:38:32] vote to overturn the nbc's

[1:38:34] decision and approve the

[1:38:36] petition their pie there by

[1:38:40] passing it into law. A nay

[1:38:41] vote will be a vote to uphold

[1:38:42] the nbc's decision to deny the

[1:38:45] petition. We'll now go to the

[1:38:57] board for a vote. The motion

[1:39:04] carries 23. 2, But now proceed

[1:39:07] to special orders and business

[1:39:08] proposal. Number one, 62

[1:39:09] referred to admin a finance

[1:39:16] committee CHAIRMAN. Scary.

[1:39:19] There go. Thank you. Thank

[1:39:20] you, MADAM. PRESIDENT

[1:39:22] Proposal, one 62 modifies is

[1:39:23] sever ordinances related to

[1:39:25] the human resource for

[1:39:25] Division employee

[1:39:28] compensation. In Lee for the

[1:39:31] city and county employees pass

[1:39:35] on the committee 0. I so move.

[1:39:36] The most in his second year.

[1:39:38] Their comments counselors.

[1:39:38] Santa proceed to the board for

[1:39:49] a vote. The proposal carries

[1:39:51] 24 to 0 the next item on our

[1:39:54] agenda pose a number one. 27

[1:39:55] refer to Metropolitan in

[1:39:56] Economic Development Committee

[1:40:00] CHAIRMAN Mostly. Thank you,

[1:40:00] Madam. PRESIDENT Proposal.

[1:40:02] Number one, 27 2026. Call for

[1:40:04] the council to except for the

[1:40:05] record, the 2026 admission for

[1:40:10] the 2025 calendar year. Tax

[1:40:11] increment finance district

[1:40:14] financial report. Pursuant to

[1:40:19] I c 36 to 7 1, 5, 0.1 That's

[1:40:23] 36.3 The Metropolitan and

[1:40:26] Economic Development Committee

[1:40:26] reviewed and accepted this

[1:40:28] report on JUNE 8th, a copy of

[1:40:29] which is included in the

[1:40:30] minutes of the committee

[1:40:32] hearing and submitted to the

[1:40:33] clerk for inclusion in the

[1:40:33] council's general of

[1:40:35] proceedings. No further action

[1:40:37] is required from the council.

[1:40:40] Thank you. Thank you, MR.

[1:40:42] CHAIRMAN, the next item on our

[1:40:43] agenda proposal. Number one,

[1:40:44] 64 referred Metropolitan in

[1:40:45] Economic Development Committee

[1:40:45] CHAIRMAN Al Sully. Thank you.

[1:40:50] MADAM PRESIDENT. Which consent

[1:40:51] I would like to take proposal

[1:40:54] numbers. 1, 6, 5, 2, 1, 7, 7,

[1:40:55] and 1, 7, 9, through 1, $0.08

[1:41:02] We need to do one. 64 0st.

[1:41:04] Proposal. Number 1, 6, 4,

[1:41:05] proves the statement of

[1:41:07] benefits for Zuma.

[1:41:09] International Inc and

[1:41:09] applicant for tax abatement

[1:41:10] for property located in an

[1:41:11] economic revitalization area

[1:41:14] defined by I c 36, 10, 7 dash,

[1:41:20] 1, 5, 0.1 dash 26. The

[1:41:21] proposal failed to pass out of

[1:41:25] committee. By a vote of 5 to 5

[1:41:31] and MADAM PRESIDENT, I move.

[1:41:31] Cancer heart. MADAM MADAM

[1:41:34] PRESIDENT Has stated by the

[1:41:38] chair, the motion was made

[1:41:40] just proposal. Number one, 64

[1:41:41] 2026 to the full council to

[1:41:42] divest recommendation not pass

[1:41:44] it. It was a 5 to 5 result.

[1:41:45] And since that time, I want to

[1:41:48] give some context. One lesson

[1:41:50] I learned, never take a

[1:41:54] vacation on a Monday. So I

[1:41:55] wasn't unable to make the

[1:41:57] committee that evening to this

[1:41:59] explanation. But this is a

[1:42:00] part of a massive

[1:42:02] redevelopment on the east side

[1:42:04] of Indianapolis. So

[1:42:07] historically, there was a this

[1:42:08] the site that used to have

[1:42:08] 6,000 employees on the east

[1:42:10] side of Indianapolis that shut

[1:42:14] down in 2011 and then years

[1:42:16] later, a developer loud came

[1:42:18] in and started cleaning site.

[1:42:22] They divided it into 4

[1:42:24] quadrants. This is statement

[1:42:26] benefits for the northeast

[1:42:26] quadrant for an organization

[1:42:29] that is a manufacturing

[1:42:30] facility. What's really cool

[1:42:32] to talk about this, the site

[1:42:34] and he's been able to do and

[1:42:36] bring in folks like this is

[1:42:36] the lot of jobs or they're

[1:42:37] bringing back to the side.

[1:42:39] It's not as impactful as what

[1:42:43] once was with for. That's very

[1:42:44] tough bench to hit the head

[1:42:48] 6,000 employees that time.

[1:42:48] When we left, the originally

[1:42:49] came in that that they're

[1:42:53] going to be around 2.50, 300.

[1:42:54] They're now closer to 1000 the

[1:42:54] full build out of this entire

[1:42:57] site was actually amazing

[1:42:59] thing in this job or

[1:43:00] development itself is around

[1:43:02] 350 of that. And those are

[1:43:03] manufacturing jobs, which of

[1:43:07] those things we don't see very

[1:43:09] often and so I'm very

[1:43:11] supportive of this proposal

[1:43:11] because it is helping out the

[1:43:12] residents and on the side

[1:43:13] helping out the things that we

[1:43:15] need to do and redevelop some

[1:43:19] of these old brownfield sites

[1:43:20] from my understanding, you

[1:43:22] know, watching back the video

[1:43:23] just going through some points

[1:43:26] that I wish I could have to

[1:43:28] explain the commitments of

[1:43:29] benefits and where this is

[1:43:31] impactful for. And so, you

[1:43:34] know, that's it's split into 2

[1:43:34] buckets of where those dollars

[1:43:35] to go in. One bucket is the

[1:43:37] pending trail. So the site

[1:43:38] essentially sits on top right

[1:43:43] below the pens, the trail 90

[1:43:44] percent of the dollars go

[1:43:45] towards the Penske trail

[1:43:47] towards improvements and

[1:43:48] infrastructure. There. And

[1:43:50] then there's $10,000 that I

[1:43:55] asked sent to the Cumberland.

[1:43:59] Cdc and why that is is because

[1:43:59] earlier with the same site

[1:44:03] with the Thunderbirds site, we

[1:44:04] appropriated $50,000 to the

[1:44:08] Cumberland cdc to help with a

[1:44:08] design plan and market

[1:44:09] analysis. Study on the

[1:44:13] Washington Square Mall. So

[1:44:13] you'll heard me talk a million

[1:44:16] times about how Washington on

[1:44:17] my district. We've got to do

[1:44:17] something about it. And so

[1:44:20] since MARCH of this year,

[1:44:21] we've been doing redevelopment

[1:44:24] plan on that mall with

[1:44:27] partners from Louth as the

[1:44:31] sponsors Far East Side

[1:44:32] Community Council. My so

[1:44:33] Cumberland Schmidt Associates

[1:44:36] is the architect firm on it.

[1:44:37] And then you ally approached

[1:44:38] me and said, hey, we would

[1:44:39] love to be a part of this. And

[1:44:40] we have this thing that's

[1:44:43] called a tap program and which

[1:44:44] they bring experts in the

[1:44:47] field into a two-day study.

[1:44:48] And recently the Grassy Creek

[1:44:50] trail was opened up just north

[1:44:53] of my district. And that is

[1:44:56] slated to head head straight

[1:44:57] down to the pens, a trail with

[1:45:01] intially over the years. And

[1:45:02] what the you ally and what

[1:45:04] we've been talking about is

[1:45:07] how can we actually create a

[1:45:08] bridge over Washington Street

[1:45:09] and show what that development

[1:45:10] would look like? The cost of

[1:45:12] that development to have plans

[1:45:13] through you ally. And that's

[1:45:16] what that $10,000 intended for

[1:45:18] from this. And so that that is

[1:45:20] a big part of the vision for

[1:45:21] the east side of Indianapolis

[1:45:24] to help with the connectivity.

[1:45:26] This makes that possible with

[1:45:27] the community impact payment

[1:45:28] majority that stays right

[1:45:29] there on the trail that exist.

[1:45:30] But we do want to try and do

[1:45:32] some future planning to help

[1:45:33] make that site more

[1:45:35] attractive. That so much on.

[1:45:36] So MADAM PRESIDENT, that's the

[1:45:37] details here. And as a result,

[1:45:40] I believe that the concerns

[1:45:42] expressed at the committee

[1:45:43] meeting by my fellow

[1:45:45] councilors have been

[1:45:47] addressed. I've talked to this

[1:45:48] is a minority leader since

[1:45:49] then expend a lot of this a

[1:45:50] whole lot more detail, as I

[1:45:54] say for the evening at a time.

[1:45:55] So therefore move for adoption

[1:45:57] of the proposal. One, 64 2026

[1:45:59] cancer. Can I stop you before

[1:46:00] you make your motion? MISTER

[1:46:00] CHAIRMAN Kenny Withdrawal

[1:46:02] Year? Original motion. Sorry

[1:46:05] cancer. Thank you, MADAM

[1:46:05] PRESIDENT, I'm happy to

[1:46:09] Israel. Thank you. So

[1:46:10] therefore, I move for adoption

[1:46:12] of proposal. Number one, 64

[1:46:13] 2026. We have answer any

[1:46:17] questions. And with Emotion

[1:46:19] that in a second comments from

[1:46:21] cancer assistant him out.

[1:46:24] We'll Thank you, MADAM

[1:46:25] PRESIDENT and colleagues. I

[1:46:26] appreciate conversation

[1:46:27] tonight. We had a robust

[1:46:31] conversation and dc about the

[1:46:32] specific property. I think

[1:46:34] it's a amazing development. I

[1:46:35] think it emphasizes

[1:46:35] specifically at the

[1:46:38] Thunderbird site. There were.

[1:46:39] We're seeing a lot of positive

[1:46:41] development going. They're not

[1:46:42] really having the challenge is

[1:46:44] to develop that site. The kind

[1:46:45] of exist another industrial

[1:46:46] area. Some weather that's

[1:46:50] being recognized had really

[1:46:51] good conversations with the

[1:46:52] developer and the company. You

[1:46:53] know, one of the one of the

[1:46:56] concerns that I had was well,

[1:46:57] that's a great development for

[1:46:58] this. I want to make sure that

[1:46:59] the benefits that are being

[1:47:00] generated at the sites are

[1:47:02] seen in the neighborhoods

[1:47:04] where the development is

[1:47:05] actually happening. And so I

[1:47:06] think we're able to achieve

[1:47:06] that goal. But I think as we

[1:47:09] look to the future, we seem to

[1:47:10] continue to be mindful,

[1:47:12] obviously, we're respecting

[1:47:14] counselor discretion, but also

[1:47:15] just continue to collaborate

[1:47:16] work on that. I do appreciate

[1:47:17] council heart for the

[1:47:19] conversation in doing that. So

[1:47:20] I'll be supporting the

[1:47:21] proposal. One 64 this evening

[1:47:23] and asked my colleagues to say

[1:47:24] thank you, comments regarding

[1:47:27] proposal. One 64. Seeing no

[1:47:28] per se to the board for a

[1:47:38] vote. The proposal carries a

[1:47:40] 24 to 0 the next item on our

[1:47:41] agenda proposal. Number one,

[1:47:45] 65 CHAIRMAN. Mostly. Thank

[1:47:50] you. MADAM PRESIDENT. With

[1:47:52] consent. I would not now like

[1:47:53] to take opposing members 1, 6,

[1:47:57] 5, 1, 7, 7, And 1, 7, 9, 3, 1,

[1:48:03] 8, 6, together. Please Does

[1:48:08] everyone sure about with that?

[1:48:09] Proposal? Number 1, 6, 5,

[1:48:13] approves a pilot for project

[1:48:14] entitled Rebuilding The

[1:48:16] Village located at 59. 35 West

[1:48:20] 56th Street. Proposal. Number

[1:48:22] 1, 6, 6, approves a pilot for

[1:48:23] project Entitle Laurelwood

[1:48:27] Apartments. Around terrace

[1:48:29] located at 33 40 Teakwood

[1:48:31] Drive 14. 55 South Bancroft

[1:48:34] Street and 13. 27 Riley place.

[1:48:38] Proposal. Number 1, 6, 7,

[1:48:39] Approves a pilot for project

[1:48:42] entitled Kind of Commons.

[1:48:43] Phase 2 located at 28, 80 East

[1:48:45] Hannah Avenue. Proposal.

[1:48:49] Number 1, 6, 8, 2026 approves

[1:48:50] a pilot for project entitled

[1:48:53] The Holcombe. Located at 15.

[1:48:55] 45 Van Buren Street. Opposed

[1:48:57] number 1, 6, 9, approves a

[1:49:00] pilot for project entitled

[1:49:01] Emerson Place Apartments

[1:49:07] located at 21 10. No place.

[1:49:11] Proposal. Number 1, 7, 1, 70.

[1:49:12] Approves. A pilot for project

[1:49:13] entitled Hope Side. Senior

[1:49:15] Housing located 1915, 2005

[1:49:18] East, 25th Street. Proposal.

[1:49:22] Number 1, 7, 1, oppose a pilot

[1:49:22] for project entitled Twin

[1:49:23] Hills and Blackcurrant Harris

[1:49:27] located at 20 to 10 East 36th

[1:49:30] Street 30 91 Baltimore Avenue.

[1:49:34] And 30 38 Hillside Avenue.

[1:49:35] Proposal. Number 1, 7,

[1:49:37] approves a pilot for project

[1:49:39] entitled Judas, Senior Village

[1:49:40] located at 39. 69 Meadows

[1:49:42] Drive. Proposal. Number one,

[1:49:46] 73. Approves a pilot for

[1:49:49] project entitled Life Village

[1:49:51] located at 32 19 Orchard

[1:49:53] Avenue in 1927, 1946. In 1950,

[1:49:56] East 32nd Street. The Bulls

[1:50:00] number 1, 7, 4, Approves. A

[1:50:02] pilot project entitled Ritz on

[1:50:06] Illinois, located at 34 0, 4,

[1:50:09] 34 32 34 34 34 38 and 34 44

[1:50:13] North Illinois Street. But

[1:50:14] number 1, 7, 5, approves a

[1:50:15] pilot for project entitled The

[1:50:17] Drink Apartments located at

[1:50:20] 30, 60 North Korean Street.

[1:50:21] Proposal. Number 1, 7, 6, up.

[1:50:23] It was a part of her project

[1:50:24] entitled Beachwood Gardens and

[1:50:27] Hawthorne Place located at 29

[1:50:29] 15, North Graham Avenue and

[1:50:30] 52. 44 East, 5th East 32nd

[1:50:32] Street. Proposal. Number 1, 7,

[1:50:37] 7, was a pilot for project

[1:50:37] entitled Cornerstone

[1:50:40] Apartments located 38 0, 2,

[1:50:43] And 38 10 North Franklin Road.

[1:50:44] Proposal. Number 1, 7, 9, a

[1:50:45] pilot for project entitled

[1:50:48] Grassy Creek Commons located

[1:50:48] at 36. 0, 1, north of the

[1:50:52] middle road. Proposal. Number

[1:50:54] 1, 8, 0, That was a pilot for

[1:50:56] project entitled Union at

[1:50:59] Astor located at 14. 37 15, 30

[1:51:05] 15. 33. C street. 14. 22 15 28

[1:51:07] Esther Street and to 19,

[1:51:09] Colleen Street. Proposal.

[1:51:13] Number 1, 1, approves a pilot

[1:51:15] for Project entitled Bakery

[1:51:16] Living located at 13. 31 East

[1:51:19] Washington street. Lows in the

[1:51:20] morning to approve pilot for

[1:51:22] project entitled Sherman Lofts

[1:51:23] located at 37. 37 East

[1:51:28] Washington Street. Proposal.

[1:51:29] Number 1, 8, 3, 2026 approves

[1:51:33] a pilot for project entitled.

[1:51:33] Washington State located 17.

[1:51:36] 0, 1, I'm sorry, 17 2 and 17.

[1:51:40] 26 East Washington street. 12,

[1:51:42] 16 20 north Wolcott Street.

[1:51:44] And 50 north Senate haven't.

[1:51:47] Proposal number one in 4. Was

[1:51:48] a pilot for project entitled

[1:51:53] him. 22 south located at 17

[1:51:55] 22nd Street opposed number 1,

[1:51:58] 8, 5, was a pilot for project

[1:51:59] entitled 16 Parc Apartments

[1:52:03] located at 16. 21 North Park.

[1:52:07] 10 61 16 0, 4 Broadway Street

[1:52:10] and 5.46 East 17th street. And

[1:52:14] proposal. Number 1, 8, 6,

[1:52:15] approves a punt for a project

[1:52:18] entitled Damian Center, Psh.

[1:52:18] Located at 14. 38 East

[1:52:21] Washington Street. The

[1:52:22] proposals passed out of

[1:52:23] committee by a vote of 10 to

[1:52:29] 0. MADAM PRESIDENT. I some the

[1:52:30] most been properly moved. And

[1:52:30] second other comments from

[1:52:34] counselors. Sandra, proceed to

[1:52:42] the board for votes. The

[1:52:44] proposal care proposals carry

[1:52:48] 24 to 0. The next item on our

[1:52:49] agenda proposal. Number one,

[1:52:49] 18, I refer to public safety

[1:52:50] and criminal Justice

[1:52:51] Committee. The system Chair

[1:52:56] Alan. Thank you. MADAM

[1:52:57] PRESIDENT proposal member when

[1:53:01] a team at 2026 amends Section

[1:53:01] 3, 8, 1, dash, 103, of the

[1:53:05] code to require the curfew

[1:53:06] ordinance anyone 17 years of

[1:53:10] age and below do pass as a

[1:53:11] maid. As Amanda add up

[1:53:17] committee 7 to 4 so moved. The

[1:53:18] most has been properly moved.

[1:53:18] And second and other comments

[1:53:21] will counselors cancer heart?

[1:53:25] Thank you. MADAM Chair, this

[1:53:27] is a proposal that was given

[1:53:28] to me by by the public. They

[1:53:30] raised awareness after we had

[1:53:33] our first vote on the public

[1:53:34] safety curfew hours and

[1:53:35] essentially just bring it

[1:53:37] back. And they brought to my

[1:53:39] attention that 17 year-olds

[1:53:39] were concluded. And so I went

[1:53:43] I looked at the at the

[1:53:44] ordinance and sure it was it

[1:53:45] was true, right? They were not

[1:53:47] included. And so as I got to

[1:53:47] looking doing more research,

[1:53:48] one of the things that I

[1:53:51] discovered is that the first

[1:53:52] homicide victim of the year

[1:53:58] was a juvenile aged 17 past

[1:53:59] curfew hours. And, you know, I

[1:54:01] thought the argument that

[1:54:02] given to me is that, you know,

[1:54:03] a very good one that juveniles

[1:54:06] at the age of 17 are still

[1:54:08] juveniles right? The point of

[1:54:09] this proposal, even with the

[1:54:10] public's a few hours or any

[1:54:12] group curfew hours given that

[1:54:13] isn't just start going and

[1:54:15] taking kids off the street. We

[1:54:18] heard a lot of I think good

[1:54:19] arguments that evening, one of

[1:54:19] which from was the chief of

[1:54:23] police telling us how just by

[1:54:24] proposing this and having the

[1:54:25] conversation and maybe there's

[1:54:25] one or 2 or more conversations

[1:54:27] that happened that evening at

[1:54:29] home would be a positive

[1:54:31] thing. So even if we get that

[1:54:31] minimum accomplished that

[1:54:33] tonight, that's a good thing.

[1:54:36] But it's also about the

[1:54:38] protections that are already

[1:54:39] afforded juveniles are doing

[1:54:40] the right thing, right? Folks

[1:54:42] that are going to work doing

[1:54:43] activities. This doesn't apply

[1:54:46] to them right. This is

[1:54:46] effectively given the tools to

[1:54:48] the officers and making sure

[1:54:49] that we're we're we're given

[1:54:52] that ability to have that

[1:54:54] level accountability. I still

[1:54:58] think we have work to do is on

[1:55:00] proposals that we still have

[1:55:02] table here. I don't think this

[1:55:02] is going to solve the problem

[1:55:04] of crime in Indianapolis by

[1:55:07] itself. I think there's a big

[1:55:08] accountability problem a lot

[1:55:09] of different areas. I think

[1:55:10] Preble County ability is one

[1:55:12] of those. And I think the

[1:55:13] biggest opportunity we have at

[1:55:14] this is if there are juveniles

[1:55:17] that end up being picked up by

[1:55:18] the police and they are

[1:55:19] brought together with their

[1:55:20] parent that there is a serious

[1:55:22] conversation that happens at

[1:55:23] the time that they are united.

[1:55:24] I think that's the most

[1:55:25] powerful thing that could come

[1:55:28] out of this passing. We've got

[1:55:29] a look at this as an

[1:55:30] opportunity where we just came

[1:55:31] off a weekend of the 4th of

[1:55:34] JULY. Beach Cove just south of

[1:55:37] my district, juvenile shooting

[1:55:37] guns, right? I mean, I'm not

[1:55:38] here to have a debate on gun,

[1:55:41] we're here to have a debate on

[1:55:43] on curfew and we are having a

[1:55:44] lack of accountability for

[1:55:45] those kids in those parents.

[1:55:49] And this is one step that at a

[1:55:50] minimum, at least connect

[1:55:52] those in that give an

[1:55:53] opportunity. With that, MADAM

[1:55:56] PRESIDENT, I yield my time.

[1:55:56] Additional comments. Will

[1:55:59] counselors. Pastor Brown?

[1:56:04] Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT. I

[1:56:04] just want repeat some of my

[1:56:05] comments from the last time we

[1:56:06] talked about curfew. What

[1:56:08] we're dealing with here is

[1:56:09] political theater as the

[1:56:11] council just mentioned. We're

[1:56:12] not talking about guns here

[1:56:13] tonight. We're talking about

[1:56:14] curfew. And yet as soon as

[1:56:16] these kids turn 18, they're

[1:56:19] able to carry ridiculous

[1:56:20] levels of weaponry around

[1:56:21] openly on our streets. Thanks

[1:56:23] to our state super majority.

[1:56:25] I'm in favor of the Second

[1:56:27] Amendment. I'm a pacifist

[1:56:28] personally but think that

[1:56:28] people should have the right

[1:56:31] to bear arms. But when we

[1:56:33] arbitrarily choose someone's

[1:56:34] birthday as the time when all

[1:56:36] the sudden they just have all

[1:56:36] the rights of the world's only

[1:56:39] available to them. I don't

[1:56:40] think that's that's our kids

[1:56:40] up for success. I do think

[1:56:43] that's that's parents up for

[1:56:44] success. No one proposal is

[1:56:45] going to solve every problem

[1:56:48] in the world. I get that. But

[1:56:48] when I'm looking at

[1:56:51] constituents of mine who've

[1:56:52] sat here for hours to make

[1:56:54] sure that there's someone

[1:56:54] looking at our eyes who works

[1:56:56] with children who works with

[1:56:58] the youth, who has told us and

[1:56:59] has testified before when we

[1:57:01] did a public comment that this

[1:57:01] is not the way to go. This is

[1:57:04] not going to help. I think

[1:57:05] someone has to listen to that

[1:57:06] and speak up side. Debra about

[1:57:07] now. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:57:12] Council Roberts. Thank you,

[1:57:12] MADAM PRESIDENT, I just wanted

[1:57:13] to kind of explain my thought

[1:57:14] process giving us a lot of

[1:57:15] thought. Do plan voting for

[1:57:18] it for a few reasons. First

[1:57:20] and foremost, this is yet

[1:57:21] another tool. I think we need

[1:57:22] to be empowered impd with to

[1:57:24] keep our city safe because for

[1:57:25] all of this really for the

[1:57:27] safety of the kids. Obviously,

[1:57:31] we do not want anybody you

[1:57:31] know, unsafe situation

[1:57:33] downtown, where there could be

[1:57:35] potential use guns. And I

[1:57:36] think, you know, you

[1:57:38] highlighted wealth. We could

[1:57:40] be and forcing different

[1:57:40] things will be different

[1:57:41] conversation. But the reality

[1:57:44] is it's not the that things

[1:57:45] were empowered by the state

[1:57:47] house to actually change. Also

[1:57:49] one point that think about a

[1:57:50] lot is how complex our current

[1:57:53] curfew laws are. They're

[1:57:55] different for people under 14

[1:57:56] different people are 15 16

[1:57:59] different for 17 18. Plus,

[1:58:01] obviously that for weekdays

[1:58:01] and weekends and if some

[1:58:02] making up to me and asked me

[1:58:04] to explain the intricacies of

[1:58:06] the days that we can ages, I

[1:58:07] cannot give them the real

[1:58:08] answer little on. I'm sure an

[1:58:09] officer little a child as

[1:58:11] trying to figure it out. So to

[1:58:12] me I trust impd officers will

[1:58:18] have some level of situational

[1:58:19] understanding of of the youth

[1:58:21] and the not try to enforce in

[1:58:21] a bad way. But you think this

[1:58:23] is a step and I do give credit

[1:58:24] for people have worked on this

[1:58:25] because I did check him out on

[1:58:26] a from last year after really

[1:58:27] considering that intricacies

[1:58:28] of the law. Thank you. Thank

[1:58:29] you, counselor. Additional

[1:58:34] comments. Councilor Bank.

[1:58:35] Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

[1:58:37] just want to thank the council

[1:58:37] heart for his leadership on

[1:58:39] this issue and appreciate the

[1:58:40] bipartisan nature in which

[1:58:42] this passed out of committee

[1:58:44] and certainly not my place to

[1:58:45] speak on behalf of the impd

[1:58:46] chief. I think she spoke very

[1:58:49] eloquently about the tough Rip

[1:58:54] officers are facing and

[1:58:55] believe this will be nothing

[1:58:57] more more than a strong tool.

[1:58:58] And there toolbox when they

[1:59:02] come to addressing the severe

[1:59:03] issues that we face our city.

[1:59:04] So look forward to supporting

[1:59:05] this tonight. Thank you.

[1:59:08] Additional comments. Cancer

[1:59:12] out. Thank you, MADAM

[1:59:16] PRESIDENT, at. Pretty much

[1:59:18] everyone knows my stance. And

[1:59:20] this about adding 17 eur back.

[1:59:21] Can we say that we're using

[1:59:24] that tool? This is one tool

[1:59:26] that does not show that is

[1:59:27] actually data that actually

[1:59:28] words our system that actually

[1:59:29] works. And that's the reason

[1:59:33] why I'm so against it. Why do

[1:59:35] believe in accountability? I

[1:59:36] am a supporter of impd. I do

[1:59:38] believe this is a community

[1:59:39] effort and we're going to

[1:59:40] continue to find ourself here

[1:59:44] in this same plays come the

[1:59:44] come next year. And we're

[1:59:47] going to be having this same

[1:59:47] discussion because we haven't

[1:59:50] came up with it. Something

[1:59:51] that actually works. So if we

[1:59:54] want to do something, we have

[1:59:55] to make sure that if we're

[1:59:55] going to talk about something

[1:59:58] say we're gonna use tools, we

[2:00:00] have to make sure that we're

[2:00:02] having conversations and

[2:00:02] making the right investment

[2:00:04] into something that actually

[2:00:04] works. And this is one right

[2:00:07] now that does not work. And I

[2:00:08] encourage my colleagues to not

[2:00:09] support this proposal. Thank

[2:00:17] you. Additional comments

[2:00:17] seeing no proceed to the board

[2:00:29] for a vote. The proposal fails

[2:00:33] 9 to 15. The next item on our

[2:00:34] agenda proposal. Number one,

[2:00:35] 90 refer to public safety and

[2:00:36] criminal Justice Committee.

[2:00:39] Assistant Chair Alan MADAM

[2:00:41] Chair. Thank you. MADAM.

[2:00:42] PRESIDENT Proposal, number

[2:00:45] one, 92,026 directs the city

[2:00:46] county to require changes to

[2:00:51] the Office Public Health and

[2:00:51] Safety. After the added

[2:00:53] completed by the office of it

[2:00:54] and performance do pass as it

[2:00:55] made a motion to divide

[2:00:58] question, went through for

[2:00:59] passed out of committee 6 to

[2:01:04] 5. And Phil question number 5

[2:01:07] boat. 47, which failed so

[2:01:10] MADAM PRESIDENT.

[2:01:19] Yes, MADAM PRESIDENT. Got a

[2:01:20] motion on my desk and there's

[2:01:22] just a motion made.

[2:01:29] council. She's area made the

[2:01:30] motion and are read the

[2:01:33] minutes as as it's already

[2:01:34] separated. Do we still needed

[2:01:35] to motion says separated

[2:01:39] situation. Read it. I think

[2:01:39] you still need to do a motion

[2:01:41] to set aside. The separated

[2:01:44] into body

[2:01:50] MADAM PRESIDENT of the Public

[2:01:51] Safety Criminal Justice

[2:01:52] Committee on JUNE 10, 2026.

[2:01:53] The committee voted by the

[2:01:55] question with regard to

[2:01:57] proposal one 90 2026. Like to

[2:01:58] again move to divide the

[2:02:00] question regarding proposal

[2:02:00] one 90 2026 into 2 separate

[2:02:07] votes as follows question one

[2:02:08] which approves sections one

[2:02:08] through 4 proposal. Number

[2:02:11] one, 90 2026. And question

[2:02:14] too, which approves section 5

[2:02:19] proposal. Number one, 90 2026.

[2:02:21] MADAM PRESIDENT. The reason

[2:02:22] that we've divided this

[2:02:22] question is after debate in

[2:02:27] committee there was there was

[2:02:29] there was support for holding

[2:02:30] having the impacts phs of

[2:02:33] coming back and having

[2:02:34] additional reporting

[2:02:34] requirements and things of

[2:02:35] that nature of sections, one

[2:02:37] through 4, which is what that

[2:02:40] accomplish. And then Section 2

[2:02:41] was a punitive portion that I

[2:02:44] had written to the proposal

[2:02:45] that would withhold funding if

[2:02:46] they did not do any of the

[2:02:46] sections. One through 4. And

[2:02:48] that's why these that 2

[2:02:51] questions were divided to have

[2:02:54] One through 4 for question one

[2:02:56] and section question to for

[2:02:58] Section 5. So that's why I

[2:02:59] decided to move to divide this

[2:03:04] question. MADAM PRESIDENT. The

[2:03:04] motion properly moved seconded

[2:03:05] to divide the questions.

[2:03:06] Comments regarding the motion

[2:03:13] on the floor. Castor Brown.

[2:03:13] Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT.

[2:03:14] Sorry, I'm talking a lot

[2:03:19] tonight. I'm fine with the

[2:03:20] motion by the question. This

[2:03:21] makes sense. I just want to

[2:03:22] take this opportunity to point

[2:03:23] out, you know, sections want,

[2:03:27] therefore think. Received a

[2:03:28] fair amount of support. And I

[2:03:30] think it's calling for extra

[2:03:30] accountability and calling to

[2:03:31] make sure the ethical rules

[2:03:34] and standards are followed.

[2:03:35] You know, I think that makes

[2:03:36] sense. Even if a phs is doing

[2:03:37] great work, which I think they

[2:03:41] mostly are. I just wanted to

[2:03:42] point out difference between

[2:03:43] how we're treating this

[2:03:44] department and how we're

[2:03:47] treating, for example, the

[2:03:48] other relationship with

[2:03:51] American structure point that

[2:03:51] Mayor Indian IndyStar

[2:03:53] highlighted and how much of

[2:03:56] dpw funding is going to

[2:03:58] character 3 to enrich people

[2:03:58] who then turn around and give

[2:04:02] large donations to the mayor.

[2:04:03] Yeah, we just had the public

[2:04:05] hearing a few minutes ago

[2:04:07] centered one central question

[2:04:08] was campaign contributions and

[2:04:11] how those impact policy. I

[2:04:12] just find it really noteworthy

[2:04:14] that. We're very concerned

[2:04:18] about ethical issues when it's

[2:04:20] just employees of the

[2:04:21] enterprise who are perhaps,

[2:04:22] you know, not using their best

[2:04:24] judgment. Rather than the

[2:04:27] mayor of our city. I will

[2:04:30] support the motion by the

[2:04:31] question. Then would support

[2:04:32] sections went there for a but

[2:04:33] I think that we are sharing

[2:04:34] ourselves. We grants if we

[2:04:35] don't take a stand on the

[2:04:35] larger ethical issues at play

[2:04:38] our city. Thank you. Thank

[2:04:39] you. The additional comments

[2:04:41] regarding the motion Florida's

[2:04:46] separate the question. It will

[2:04:46] proceed to the floor for a

[2:04:49] vote. Select the Green Button

[2:04:49] indicate that you want to

[2:04:59] divide the question. That

[2:05:05] motion fails 9 to 14. Sorry,

[2:05:09] the motion fails 10 to 14

[2:05:12] additional comments regarding

[2:05:16] proposal. Number one, 90.

[2:05:17] Seeing no proceed to the board

[2:05:21] for a vote. Sorry. MADAM Clerk

[2:05:36] said one second. I apologize.

[2:05:46] The proposal fails 6 to 18.

[2:05:47] MADAM PRESIDENT on 89

[2:05:47] accident. We vote yes. Want to

[2:05:51] vote no. And of take that.

[2:05:57] Yes, thank you. Manfred said

[2:05:58] we will get that change the

[2:05:58] next item on our agenda

[2:06:00] proposal. Number one, 91

[2:06:03] referred of Public Committee.

[2:06:06] Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT

[2:06:09] Polson number one, 91 2026,

[2:06:10] which authorizes the city

[2:06:11] acting through the

[2:06:13] metropolitan. There are a fair

[2:06:14] district. Marion County, a

[2:06:16] special taxing district

[2:06:18] existing pursuant to ic 3, 6

[2:06:21] dash 9 dash, 6.5 to issue or

[2:06:24] for it refunding Bonds, Ansari

[2:06:29] in an amount to not exceed

[2:06:30] 121 million, 15,000 dollars to

[2:06:31] refund any portion of the

[2:06:33] district's outstanding in the

[2:06:35] Rhoads metropolitan for a fair

[2:06:36] district refunding Bonds

[2:06:39] series 2020 be and approves

[2:06:39] and authorizes other actions

[2:06:43] in respect there, too.

[2:06:44] Councilor Gibson moved

[2:06:46] seconded by councilor boots to

[2:06:47] send proposal one 91 2026 to

[2:06:49] the full Council to do pass

[2:06:50] recommendation motion carried

[2:06:51] by a vote of 10 to 0 Madam

[2:06:54] President. I so move the

[2:06:55] motion and probably moved. And

[2:06:56] second other comments from

[2:06:59] counselors. Santa proceed to

[2:07:09] the board for a vote. The

[2:07:12] proposal carries 24 to 0. The

[2:07:13] last item on our agenda

[2:07:15] proposal. Number one, 92 refer

[2:07:18] referred to rules of public

[2:07:19] Policy Committee, assistant Ml

[2:07:23] Nelson. Thank you, MADAM.

[2:07:24] PRESIDENT Proposal, number

[2:07:26] one, 92 revise the chapter

[2:07:27] rise, Chapter one, 21 of the

[2:07:29] code to amend the county's

[2:07:31] excise and we'll taxes and

[2:07:31] establish a new division,

[2:07:34] state and local road funding.

[2:07:36] The proposal passed of the

[2:07:37] Rules and Public Policy

[2:07:38] Committee by votes of 73 MADAM

[2:07:46] PRESIDENT. I so move. Thank

[2:07:48] you. MADAM PRESIDENT, members

[2:07:51] of the council and the public.

[2:07:53] This has been a robust

[2:07:55] process. The council took that

[2:07:55] proposal for different

[2:07:58] locations and around our city

[2:07:59] constituents, leaders and

[2:07:59] counselors have been able to

[2:08:01] engage in thoughtful

[2:08:04] discussions about how we fully

[2:08:05] recognize the generational

[2:08:05] 50 million dollar annual

[2:08:06] infrastructure investment

[2:08:10] investment for our city. This

[2:08:10] funding was made available in

[2:08:12] 2025. To House wrote the role

[2:08:13] 14 61 after years of hard work

[2:08:18] by many in this room. And in

[2:08:18] this building, appealing to

[2:08:19] state leaders on the need to

[2:08:20] provide fairness and how the

[2:08:22] capital City receives road

[2:08:23] funding and recognizing that

[2:08:23] no level of government is

[2:08:27] doing enough. Earlier this

[2:08:28] year. Senate Rolex one 79 made

[2:08:30] several changes to the

[2:08:31] eligibility and timeline for

[2:08:31] the 50 million that created

[2:08:34] the present reality. To

[2:08:35] receive the investment. The

[2:08:36] city must progressively

[2:08:37] contribute additional new

[2:08:39] revenue toward infrastructure

[2:08:40] next year. We need to find

[2:08:41] 50 million to receive

[2:08:43] 50 million rising to

[2:08:44] 100 million for 50 million

[2:08:46] beginning in 2031. And after

[2:08:47] the provision is all or

[2:08:48] nothing, there's no there are

[2:08:51] no partial matches. We receive

[2:08:54] 50 million or $0 and there are

[2:08:55] no mulligans. The first year

[2:08:56] we cannot match the funds. We

[2:08:56] are no longer eligible in the

[2:08:59] future. There's also very

[2:09:00] important deadline and that's

[2:09:02] the end of this calendar year

[2:09:03] DECEMBER 31st. This is when we

[2:09:04] must communicate of the state.

[2:09:05] We have the funding and

[2:09:06] identify where the funding is

[2:09:09] coming from. As we discussed

[2:09:10] at length in our 4 community

[2:09:11] meetings, our options are

[2:09:13] limited. There was thorough

[2:09:13] discussion on several

[2:09:16] potential new revenue sources.

[2:09:17] Marijuana, a commuter tax

[2:09:20] vehicle miles traveled model a

[2:09:21] convention tax for roads. All

[2:09:22] of these are not legal in the

[2:09:24] state. The state would need to

[2:09:25] legalize and create a taxing

[2:09:26] structure for local

[2:09:28] governments. The city County

[2:09:31] Council cannot legislate this

[2:09:32] at this time. But many of us

[2:09:34] have advocated for each of

[2:09:36] these our plan recognize that

[2:09:37] growth alone cannot solve this

[2:09:39] problem but should be part of

[2:09:40] the equation. And while we can

[2:09:41] set specific income and

[2:09:43] property tax rates, the

[2:09:44] parameters that those rates

[2:09:47] are also set by the state and

[2:09:48] for both revenue sources. We

[2:09:50] either need to raise them. Or

[2:09:52] take away revenue think other

[2:09:54] taxing units like the library

[2:09:56] towns like Beech Grove

[2:09:58] Speedway in Southport. We also

[2:10:01] discussed budget cuts which we

[2:10:02] MAY need to turn to eventually

[2:10:03] if we are unsuccessful with

[2:10:06] this proposal. But let me be

[2:10:08] perfectly clear. We are not

[2:10:10] cutting from a 1.7 billion

[2:10:11] dollar budget. So a one or 2%

[2:10:14] trim won't cut it because only

[2:10:15] around a quarter of that

[2:10:18] revenue is eligible to be used

[2:10:19] for infrastructure. So that

[2:10:21] kind of closer to 10%. And we

[2:10:22] talk about cuts. We're cutting

[2:10:24] from eligible funding that is

[2:10:25] already being used for public

[2:10:28] safety to build fire stations

[2:10:29] ensures pools are open. Grass

[2:10:30] gets cut at parks and we pick

[2:10:34] up the dang trash. That's not

[2:10:35] fiscal discipline. It shifting

[2:10:37] the cost elsewhere. This is

[2:10:38] not to say that we do not need

[2:10:39] to sharpen our pencils and be

[2:10:42] more critical of spending.

[2:10:43] Senator rollback one is

[2:10:43] forcing us to do just that to

[2:10:45] the tune of 50 million dollars

[2:10:45] last year. We are already

[2:10:50] doing the work. The idea that

[2:10:51] there's this annual amount of

[2:10:53] 50, 7000 million dollars

[2:10:54] annually laying around that

[2:10:57] doesn't include cutting from

[2:10:57] basic services and core

[2:11:01] operations is untrue period.

[2:11:01] And like many other

[2:11:02] communities around our state.

[2:11:05] And in this moment, we are

[2:11:07] being forced to rely more on

[2:11:08] income taxes and user fees

[2:11:09] like the wheel tax in the

[2:11:10] surtax to meet basic

[2:11:13] operations for our city. So

[2:11:13] this leads us to the pro

[2:11:15] proposed before the council

[2:11:17] this evening, raising an

[2:11:19] existing user fee that must be

[2:11:20] used exclusively for

[2:11:22] infrastructure. Ensures the

[2:11:22] heaviest vehicles pay as much

[2:11:25] as legally possible and

[2:11:26] provides predictable,

[2:11:26] sustainable funding next year

[2:11:29] and every year after as we

[2:11:30] have discussed publicly for

[2:11:32] hours. So I won't fully rehash

[2:11:33] proposal. One 92 is part of a

[2:11:36] five-year plus council plan to

[2:11:37] ensure the city can leverage

[2:11:40] the state's investment by

[2:11:42] 2031. More than 200 million

[2:11:43] dollars annually in new and

[2:11:44] permanent infrastructure

[2:11:47] funding in the budget. And

[2:11:48] it's not just a city of

[2:11:50] Indianapolis. The benefits

[2:11:51] owed to 15 excluded cities and

[2:11:54] included towns. Some examples

[2:11:54] Beech Grove receive an

[2:11:56] additional 1.0 2, 2 million

[2:12:00] Speedway. 1.0 9 million. In

[2:12:01] closing. I fully recognize and

[2:12:02] appreciate the weight of the

[2:12:03] vote this evening. I don't

[2:12:06] want to dismiss it and it does

[2:12:07] not mean we have to like the

[2:12:09] challenge in front of us and

[2:12:10] the pain of picking from a set

[2:12:11] of suboptimal options. But

[2:12:14] choosing to do nothing are

[2:12:15] choosing to kick the can down

[2:12:16] the road again won't solve our

[2:12:18] city's infrastructure

[2:12:19] challenges. I fear we kick the

[2:12:20] can one more time and MAY very

[2:12:23] well disintegrate. For all the

[2:12:24] progress we have on this issue

[2:12:27] for the past decade, we have

[2:12:29] not received reach

[2:12:30] sustainability because people

[2:12:34] in our positions. In the past

[2:12:36] over decades have found

[2:12:37] convenient arguments that

[2:12:40] quote now is not the time

[2:12:41] without a permit permanent

[2:12:42] budgetary solution to satisfy

[2:12:43] the 50 million dollar State

[2:12:44] contribution. We cannot say we

[2:12:46] have the funds available. We

[2:12:48] just cannot. That MAY be a

[2:12:49] tough reality for for for some

[2:12:51] to fully grasp or accept, but

[2:12:52] it doesn't make it any less

[2:12:54] true. So when faced with

[2:12:58] reality, what we do. Let's

[2:12:59] ourselves to do the right

[2:12:59] thing to face reality and

[2:13:02] leave the city with that

[2:13:03] colleagues extra vote this

[2:13:03] evening. Thank you, MADAM

[2:13:07] PRESIDENT. Thank you,

[2:13:10] counselor Nielsen, How's your

[2:13:12] kale and counselors as you

[2:13:13] give me a little bit of grace,

[2:13:14] I know everybody probably

[2:13:15] wants an opportunity speak. I

[2:13:16] promise to get to cast Kale.

[2:13:20] Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT, I

[2:13:23] just want to rub out a few

[2:13:23] things. The council Nielsen

[2:13:24] said because I think these are

[2:13:28] just truly differences of how

[2:13:30] to approach the problem. I

[2:13:33] certainly believe that we

[2:13:35] absolutely should increase the

[2:13:37] funding. We've already for

[2:13:39] that for years, I argued in

[2:13:40] budget hearings last year, the

[2:13:42] mayor said that would have no

[2:13:43] problem coming up with the

[2:13:45] 50 million I actually said,

[2:13:46] why don't come up with in

[2:13:48] 2026, which we heard last

[2:13:52] year? I think that much.

[2:13:56] Possibly even all of the

[2:13:57] needed 50 million can come

[2:13:57] from organic tax without even

[2:13:59] actually cut here because I

[2:14:02] agree with the council

[2:14:03] Nielsen's that if really went

[2:14:04] after cut and use the 2026

[2:14:07] budget, that's one thing. But

[2:14:09] I think that we have the

[2:14:11] ability through organic tax

[2:14:12] everybody. When people get

[2:14:13] raises, we get 2 point o 2% of

[2:14:16] every year we can use those

[2:14:22] spots. I also have a we heard

[2:14:22] the other comment about the

[2:14:23] excluded cities include towns.

[2:14:26] I have one of each in my

[2:14:27] district and I reached out

[2:14:30] each of them and they chose to

[2:14:32] not request the money they do.

[2:14:33] In fact, they are. So Ford is

[2:14:34] the only one that does not

[2:14:38] have the population to vote

[2:14:38] for their own. So it is

[2:14:40] possible, for example, for

[2:14:41] Beech Grove, 2, they've been

[2:14:45] talking about $25 tax that

[2:14:45] they we can vote one way or

[2:14:47] another. Here they have that

[2:14:49] tool themselves. Southport

[2:14:51] does not, but they chose to

[2:14:55] ask for that money here. And

[2:14:56] one of the biggest problems I

[2:14:59] really struggle with on is

[2:15:01] that the flat tax approach and

[2:15:01] the dollar amount that we're

[2:15:05] talking $600 at the low end.

[2:15:06] If you have a low value

[2:15:07] vehicle under the current

[2:15:10] model, it I heard a lot of

[2:15:12] senior citizens tell me I have

[2:15:13] an old car. I'm paying $7.50

[2:15:15] because I drive a 20 year-old

[2:15:18] Toyota. But at the same time,

[2:15:21] if you drive a brand new

[2:15:22] Ferrari brand new Bentley,

[2:15:24] you're actually paying 106. 25

[2:15:25] today. So you get a little bit

[2:15:26] of a tax break in I just

[2:15:30] can't. I just cannot reconcile

[2:15:31] that. And so for those

[2:15:33] reasons, I I'm not gonna be

[2:15:33] able to support this.

[2:15:34] Certainly urge my colleagues

[2:15:37] to do the same thing. Council

[2:15:44] miscarry. Thank you, MADAM,

[2:15:46] PRESIDENT, in my issue is is

[2:15:48] equity. And I've said caucus.

[2:15:50] I think the 25 districts

[2:15:51] should get decent amount of

[2:15:56] money return. It's a tough to

[2:15:56] swallow to. I have one

[2:15:58] neighbor has foregone 3

[2:16:00] daughters man and wife. This

[2:16:04] is 5 cars as $500 but unless

[2:16:05] we get equity, I really cannot

[2:16:06] support this right now. Thank

[2:16:08] you. Thank you. Additional

[2:16:13] comments. Councilor Brown.

[2:16:16] Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

[2:16:17] just want to read it. Wanted

[2:16:18] to reiterate what I said

[2:16:18] during one of our public

[2:16:21] hearings on this, which is

[2:16:21] that this is political

[2:16:25] oppression. When you heard

[2:16:26] council Nielsen accurately

[2:16:27] describe what's going on here.

[2:16:30] This is the state house coming

[2:16:31] to us with the political

[2:16:33] equivalent of a gun to our

[2:16:35] head saying that we have to

[2:16:38] raise money even though we're

[2:16:38] already a donor county in

[2:16:40] terms of how we fund the

[2:16:42] state, we have to raise

[2:16:43] additional money, not from the

[2:16:45] people who live in Hamilton in

[2:16:46] Johnson, County of the Donut

[2:16:46] counties that use our roads

[2:16:48] without paying us for it. We

[2:16:49] have to raise it from our

[2:16:50] working class residents who

[2:16:53] can't afford it. Under

[2:16:54] Republican rule in this state.

[2:16:55] The rich have gotten far

[2:16:58] richer. The rest of us have

[2:16:59] not. And that's very, very

[2:17:03] obvious because $80 over a

[2:17:04] year should not be a make or

[2:17:08] break amount of money. And yet

[2:17:09] it we're hearing from our

[2:17:11] constituents. We understand,

[2:17:12] you know, the elderly people,

[2:17:13] the people on fixed incomes

[2:17:14] are really struggling. The

[2:17:15] cost of living is going up.

[2:17:18] Wages are not. Property. Taxes

[2:17:21] are still incredibly high. The

[2:17:22] rate to rise by the bus just

[2:17:25] went up a dollar this year. So

[2:17:26] while everybody else seems to

[2:17:28] be getting tax cuts, while

[2:17:30] everybody else seems to be

[2:17:30] able to make political

[2:17:31] donations that then make sure

[2:17:32] the tax policy favors them.

[2:17:33] The rest of us don't have that

[2:17:37] opportunity. So look, the

[2:17:39] council cannot do what we

[2:17:40] should be doing here, which is

[2:17:43] tax the rich. When Herb Simon,

[2:17:44] Ys net worth has tripled in

[2:17:47] the last 6 years. So that now

[2:17:47] he's an upwards of 6 billion

[2:17:50] dollars in net worth. It's

[2:17:53] ridiculous that we are asking

[2:17:54] little old ladies to pay 80

[2:17:55] extra dollars a year to drive

[2:17:57] the 20 year-old car that we

[2:17:58] just heard. That is

[2:18:00] ridiculous. And yet our state

[2:18:01] house does not give us the

[2:18:02] legal authority to ask the

[2:18:03] people who can afford it to

[2:18:05] pay what they ought to pay.

[2:18:11] And I would urge you all to go

[2:18:13] back and read a recent op ed

[2:18:14] that was written by Republican

[2:18:15] friend of mine from Shepherd

[2:18:19] Community Center. Jay Height.

[2:18:20] Here's pithy phrase. Was that

[2:18:21] potholes are a tax on the

[2:18:24] poor. As a person currently

[2:18:25] living close to poverty. I can

[2:18:30] attest to this. When you lose

[2:18:31] a tire when you lose a ram

[2:18:32] that when you have to get your

[2:18:34] car towed to get it repaired,

[2:18:35] you could MISS Work. You can

[2:18:36] get laid off. This is far more

[2:18:37] devastating to your finances

[2:18:40] and hard to predict. Then a

[2:18:44] dollar fee. One time of year.

[2:18:45] We need, although I'm

[2:18:46] reluctant we need to vote yes

[2:18:47] on this proposal tonight. And

[2:18:50] then even more importantly,

[2:18:52] all of us need to get busy

[2:18:54] electing new outsiders to the

[2:18:55] state house who are not part

[2:18:57] of this corrupt political

[2:18:59] establishment who could put an

[2:19:00] end to this by the Israel

[2:19:01] lobby, the slum lords and the

[2:19:02] data center developers and

[2:19:04] instead create a government by

[2:19:04] of and for the people. Thank

[2:19:15] you. Accounts remain. Thank

[2:19:19] you, MADAM PRESIDENT. Be

[2:19:21] brief. I certainly don't have

[2:19:22] political wherewithal to

[2:19:22] connect Israel to potholes in

[2:19:28] Indianapolis, but some of us

[2:19:29] But at least when it comes to

[2:19:30] this proposal in tax increases

[2:19:31] and of itself, I think there's

[2:19:33] just a phenomenal disagreement

[2:19:37] about how we get there. For

[2:19:38] me. I look at any tax increase

[2:19:39] as the government saying we

[2:19:40] know how to spend your

[2:19:41] hard-earned money better than

[2:19:47] you do. And to some extent we

[2:19:47] all we all know that taxes are

[2:19:49] necessary evil. You have to

[2:19:52] have police have to fire have

[2:19:52] to have emergency response. We

[2:19:55] have to public infrastructure

[2:19:56] like roads. I've long said

[2:19:59] that infrastructures. Over 90%

[2:20:01] of my constituent

[2:20:03] correspondents. That's why

[2:20:03] over the past couple years,

[2:20:05] I've what efforts to amend our

[2:20:07] budget. You know, I've never

[2:20:09] seen council in the

[2:20:10] infrastructure budget and the

[2:20:11] roughly 10 years that they've

[2:20:13] been in majority here.

[2:20:14] Potholes are not a partisan

[2:20:16] issue, which is why 2 years

[2:20:18] ago I went over to the state

[2:20:20] legislature asked for this

[2:20:21] very opportunity for us to get

[2:20:24] this 50 million dollar match.

[2:20:26] That will be a historic

[2:20:28] investment in city rivets.

[2:20:29] Keep in mind, that's the

[2:20:30] Republican super majority.

[2:20:30] They don't have a gun to your

[2:20:32] head because you can walk away

[2:20:33] at any point in time that you

[2:20:35] want people Julie, gun your

[2:20:36] head do well, that is an

[2:20:40] option but don't let anyone

[2:20:41] tell you that the only way we

[2:20:44] get to this 50 million dollar

[2:20:44] match, it's through a tax

[2:20:45] increase. I think council

[2:20:47] Calle said it perfectly. Our

[2:20:48] budget just grows organically

[2:20:51] every year. We just have to

[2:20:52] have the courage to flat line.

[2:20:55] Some of these existing. Well,

[2:20:56] the calmer accouterments of

[2:21:00] city government, things that

[2:21:00] can be nice to I disagree with

[2:21:04] a lot of them. So it is a dei

[2:21:05] office that we spend over a

[2:21:05] million dollars a year on.

[2:21:10] That's on top of the offices

[2:21:11] of minority and women business

[2:21:12] development. So technically we

[2:21:15] have to get officers here and

[2:21:15] Indianapolis that we spend

[2:21:17] millions of dollars a year on

[2:21:18] that. We could easily put that

[2:21:20] money towards roads. It's a

[2:21:23] choice that we're making. The

[2:21:25] question is we do we have the

[2:21:30] courage to fund the necessary

[2:21:32] the necessary departments in

[2:21:34] Indianapolis. For me, that's

[2:21:35] public safety and that's

[2:21:36] infrastructure. Those should

[2:21:38] be fully funded and everything

[2:21:38] that's left over that can be

[2:21:39] divvied up among the remaining

[2:21:42] departments. Set up the

[2:21:45] courage to say these are our

[2:21:49] priorities and these are not.

[2:21:52] CHAIRMAN Else. Lee. Thank you.

[2:21:57] MADAM PRESIDENT. Let us

[2:21:58] acknowledge that no one in

[2:22:01] this chamber. It's put us in

[2:22:05] this undesirable position. 3,

[2:22:06] Frank, this is not the

[2:22:06] direction that we as a council

[2:22:10] would have taken. We are here

[2:22:12] because it is the sole option

[2:22:14] finally offered by the General

[2:22:16] Assembly to repair our decades

[2:22:20] of crumbling streets. And as

[2:22:21] elected representatives, we

[2:22:23] have responsibility. To act

[2:22:28] now on this. So election. With

[2:22:29] an affirmative vote. The

[2:22:30] council has ability to raise

[2:22:31] more than 70 million dollars

[2:22:34] in new revenue. And put it

[2:22:35] towards the most critical

[2:22:36] issues facing our neighborhood

[2:22:40] streets. Yeah, I worry the

[2:22:41] plan currently on the table

[2:22:42] does not do enough fast

[2:22:46] enough. I believe that we

[2:22:46] move. We need to move and we

[2:22:48] must move faster. And be

[2:22:52] bolder. Because if we're

[2:22:53] asking the citizens of week

[2:22:56] that we represent to pay more,

[2:22:57] we must ensure their hard

[2:22:59] earned dollars are spent

[2:23:01] fairly quickly and where they

[2:23:02] will see the most immediate

[2:23:07] benefit. We must leverage. The

[2:23:09] revenue raised from tonight's

[2:23:10] vote to create a once in a

[2:23:11] generation neighborhood road

[2:23:14] funding program. That can

[2:23:15] sustain Indianapolis is road

[2:23:18] maintenance for years to come.

[2:23:21] This is not an easy vote.

[2:23:22] Asking people to pay more,

[2:23:27] never should be. But we must

[2:23:28] fix the issues our city is

[2:23:33] facing, especially. Those as

[2:23:34] important as the state of our

[2:23:39] roads and infrastructure. So

[2:23:39] tonight we move forward, let

[2:23:40] do it with our eyes. Open with

[2:23:43] our responsibility is clear.

[2:23:44] And with a firm commitment to

[2:23:49] fixing the roads of our city.

[2:23:50] And finally, I am committed to

[2:23:51] working with the General

[2:23:51] Assembly alongside my

[2:23:55] colleagues. To improve the

[2:23:55] options available to

[2:23:58] Indianapolis. And a funding

[2:24:01] model that is fair. More

[2:24:05] equitable. And one that is

[2:24:06] based proportionately on the

[2:24:08] value of our vehicles as it is

[2:24:14] today. Leader Mary. Thank you.

[2:24:19] MADAM PRESIDENT. I can

[2:24:19] appreciate all the hard work

[2:24:20] that's gone into this from

[2:24:24] firm Councilor Nielsen and

[2:24:25] others in a vote on this

[2:24:26] proposal. I and I don't think

[2:24:27] there's any one of us in here

[2:24:28] that would disagree that

[2:24:29] potholes are the number one

[2:24:30] issue that face Arkansas are

[2:24:32] constituencies. If that was

[2:24:33] the question board tonight, we

[2:24:37] have 25 and we it's that. But

[2:24:37] that's on the questions. I

[2:24:41] tell you how fix that problem.

[2:24:42] What they have continually

[2:24:43] through all the meetings we've

[2:24:49] sat through for this is. Knows

[2:24:50] from almost everyone it's

[2:24:51] attended the meeting and

[2:24:54] that's that stuck out to me.

[2:24:55] There's been very few. Yes,

[2:24:56] people one. The only people

[2:24:56] hurt. Remember hearing say

[2:24:58] yes, doesn't even live in the

[2:25:02] county. That's the case, then

[2:25:02] if he's going to, you know,

[2:25:04] have us all paid of our fair

[2:25:06] share. Where's the option for

[2:25:08] him to donate to This proposal

[2:25:10] for these donut counties to

[2:25:11] then kick their fair share

[2:25:11] because they're using our

[2:25:15] roads as well. One of the last

[2:25:16] times I can, you remember

[2:25:18] hearing of some the tax hike

[2:25:20] such as this was indigo, they

[2:25:21] now receive over 81 million

[2:25:24] dollars for empty buses. We

[2:25:27] put that vote to the community

[2:25:28] citizens through referendum

[2:25:29] and let them vote on it. And

[2:25:30] they told us what they what

[2:25:32] they wanted us to do. I don't

[2:25:35] see what I can beast the same

[2:25:36] situation here. We're going

[2:25:37] take a tax hike. Let's let

[2:25:39] this community vote on it. If

[2:25:40] they want to do that and get

[2:25:42] the street roads repaved that

[2:25:44] way, let's do it. If they

[2:25:44] don't agree with that, let's

[2:25:45] go back to the drawing board.

[2:25:46] Actually start cutting the

[2:25:48] budgets or we need to. Flat

[2:25:48] line. But this is counter

[2:25:52] Bayne said. One of things I

[2:25:53] also heard was that there are

[2:25:54] a lot even my own concision.

[2:25:58] My of my own district is that.

[2:25:59] We have a lot of folks that

[2:26:01] are on fixed incomes,

[2:26:01] especially the elderly

[2:26:02] community that can't

[2:26:02] necessarily afford an extra

[2:26:06] $100 a month or $200 a month.

[2:26:06] Ari? I'm sorry year. My

[2:26:10] apologies. I misspoke there. I

[2:26:11] say that say I I cannot

[2:26:12] support a proposal is going to

[2:26:15] be such a hit. Tremendous

[2:26:17] increase and so he's going to

[2:26:18] take such negative effect on

[2:26:19] so many people. So I think if

[2:26:20] we're going to do this, we

[2:26:21] should let community have more

[2:26:24] of a say on this than

[2:26:25] introducing a one-month

[2:26:26] passing at the next and all

[2:26:27] because we have to get to

[2:26:28] SEPTEMBER. We've known about

[2:26:29] this for well longer than when

[2:26:30] this has been around. So why

[2:26:31] wasn't this put out well

[2:26:32] before this? So we can have

[2:26:33] time to talk to the community

[2:26:36] about this. We had that time,

[2:26:37] maybe we could get to

[2:26:38] somewhere we can support this

[2:26:39] book doing on a month is not

[2:26:47] right. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:26:50] MADAM PRESIDENT. I was going

[2:26:53] to speak tonight. Votes like

[2:26:55] this are hard. It's a it's a

[2:26:59] huge increase. In fact. $98.93

[2:27:04] $1. Excuse me. 9, $3, increase

[2:27:05] on myself. Quite frankly. I'm

[2:27:06] one of those people who've

[2:27:08] done it right. Use car paid

[2:27:09] off early. As a matter of

[2:27:10] fact, not to have those high

[2:27:14] prices. But I couldn't put up

[2:27:16] with the ignorance that's

[2:27:18] being preached over here about

[2:27:18] some of this and trying to

[2:27:22] mislead the public. 2019 rtv,

[2:27:25] 6 Hawk said. Proposes regional

[2:27:29] Infrastructure Fund. 2023 id

[2:27:30] plans to push state to change

[2:27:33] road funding formula. That's

[2:27:35] just 2 articles. A quick

[2:27:36] Google search. We have been

[2:27:39] talking about this for years.

[2:27:39] This is not new. This didn't

[2:27:43] come out of nowhere. And when

[2:27:46] you look at council Dems. When

[2:27:48] I joined this council, we

[2:27:50] receive off the heels of a

[2:27:51] Republican administration. We

[2:27:52] were spending 50 million

[2:27:54] dollars a year on roads. We've

[2:27:56] had multiple years of

[2:27:57] 250 million, 300 million-plus

[2:28:00] without any increases. You now

[2:28:04] have a state that is cutting.

[2:28:05] Revenue from the city of

[2:28:06] Indianapolis. I think 40,

[2:28:07] 50 million last year.

[2:28:09] Understand the governor has

[2:28:11] some plans for next year.

[2:28:12] Money just doesn't come off

[2:28:16] trees. You're literally the

[2:28:16] other side of Market Street is

[2:28:18] putting us in a in a very

[2:28:19] extreme financial, difficult

[2:28:23] position. There's no doubt

[2:28:24] that there are more cuts to be

[2:28:25] made. And there's no doubt

[2:28:26] that those cuts are probably

[2:28:27] going to be happening as we

[2:28:32] move forward with the budget.

[2:28:32] The other thing I want to say,

[2:28:34] I want to highlight one win.

[2:28:36] When folks sit here and talk

[2:28:37] about how unfair this this

[2:28:38] will taxes and it absolutely

[2:28:41] is. It's ridiculous. Why

[2:28:42] should I have to pay more

[2:28:44] while people making $20300,000

[2:28:45] are actually going last or not

[2:28:47] even pay what I pay because

[2:28:48] they're driving Cadillacs.

[2:28:51] Mercedes and BMWs makes no

[2:28:53] sense. But did any of them go

[2:28:54] over there and testify on the

[2:28:55] other side of Market Street

[2:28:56] when they were putting this

[2:28:58] proposal together. I don't

[2:29:02] think so. People behind doors,

[2:29:03] they came up with the the

[2:29:08] match. They act like this was

[2:29:10] not meant to be. There's a

[2:29:12] reason why all the regional

[2:29:13] place municipalities around

[2:29:15] state of Indiana are

[2:29:15] increasing the real tax. It is

[2:29:17] the expectation of the General

[2:29:20] Assembly. That is why they

[2:29:21] change the wheel tax and made

[2:29:23] it $100 straight feet. Not

[2:29:25] fair, not equitable. So

[2:29:27] anybody trying to tell you

[2:29:28] something different is full of

[2:29:30] it and I hope you call him out

[2:29:32] on. They absolutely know what

[2:29:34] the expectation over there is.

[2:29:35] And there's anger in me

[2:29:36] because I don't want to have

[2:29:38] to vote for this. It is

[2:29:41] ridiculous. But at some of my

[2:29:43] colleagues had this year, I

[2:29:44] had a flat tire from a

[2:29:50] possible. $250. It's also

[2:29:51] thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

[2:29:53] thank you. Counts. Cancer

[2:29:56] heart. Thank you. MADAM

[2:29:58] PRESIDENT. Every couple of

[2:30:02] things tonight. One thing I

[2:30:03] just recently heard was quote

[2:30:05] from Mayor Hogsett the most

[2:30:06] recent. What we have for Mayor

[2:30:08] Hogsett is that he does not

[2:30:08] think we need to raise the

[2:30:12] will tax. And if I want to

[2:30:15] look at this chamber, I would

[2:30:15] look at this chambers who's

[2:30:16] had a super majority since

[2:30:19] 2020. Look at chamber who's

[2:30:25] had a majority since 2015. I'm

[2:30:26] not gonna use the phrase that

[2:30:29] keeps being used. But when we

[2:30:29] talk about what the Republican

[2:30:33] legislature did, what they did

[2:30:34] is they looked at the spending

[2:30:36] of this council and they gave

[2:30:39] an opportunity to get a match.

[2:30:41] They gave an opportunity to

[2:30:45] get its priorities straight.

[2:30:46] Because clearly we have a

[2:30:47] majority since 2015 and a

[2:30:49] super majority since 2020 and

[2:30:52] you still can't get the

[2:30:53] funding right. And the state

[2:30:54] still comes to save you and

[2:30:54] gives you an opportunity. But

[2:30:56] another 50 million dollars by

[2:30:57] just matching that and getting

[2:30:59] more year year. That's a great

[2:31:00] opportunity. And we don't talk

[2:31:05] about. Misleading the public.

[2:31:07] I went to a handful of

[2:31:08] committee meetings. I've seen

[2:31:10] multiple press conference or

[2:31:11] press releases that we're

[2:31:13] telling the public that this

[2:31:13] has to be a new tax that has

[2:31:15] to be a new tax. This is not

[2:31:17] have to be a new tax. I've

[2:31:18] talked with the Legislature.

[2:31:19] It just means come up with the

[2:31:23] money. The mayor knows that.

[2:31:23] That's why said he's not

[2:31:26] raising these. So we talk

[2:31:30] about timeline. The same

[2:31:32] council myself included on

[2:31:34] this one, spent more time.

[2:31:36] Putting together a snow

[2:31:37] policy. Then we did take in

[2:31:39] consideration. From the

[2:31:42] public. We did some good

[2:31:46] public hearings give you that.

[2:31:47] What we're going to do to

[2:31:47] raise their taxes, something

[2:31:48] that in 7 years I've never

[2:31:51] done this council. It's it's a

[2:31:52] pretty big deal. But he's been

[2:31:53] more to you at how we're going

[2:31:54] to remove their snow. That to

[2:31:58] me. Are not street priorities.

[2:32:00] Going back to what our state

[2:32:00] legislatures giving the

[2:32:02] opportunity to do here. So.

[2:32:05] Let's be very clear that.

[2:32:06] There is no time rush. We do

[2:32:07] have the money. The mayors

[2:32:07] telling us the controller's

[2:32:09] office telling us who's had

[2:32:11] studies had consultants we can

[2:32:12] get to next year. You've got

[2:32:13] the time to look at. He's even

[2:32:14] tells get past one more year.

[2:32:16] You can still look at it. We

[2:32:18] have these opportunities to

[2:32:19] look at the natural

[2:32:19] appreciation of the covid

[2:32:21] that's going to come in. And

[2:32:24] we have the opportunity cut.

[2:32:25] I've been here year like last

[2:32:26] year. Spent a ridiculous

[2:32:28] amount time looking at

[2:32:29] Supplemental County Income Tax

[2:32:33] and giving amendments on that.

[2:32:34] Those were dollars, right? We

[2:32:35] did a good job dollars this

[2:32:36] year. Last year put 10 million

[2:32:39] in the budget for next year.

[2:32:40] So will have to come up

[2:32:44] 40 Million. So I think there's

[2:32:44] a lot of opportunity. We have

[2:32:45] one of those biggest

[2:32:47] opportunities as we don't have

[2:32:48] to raise the wheel tax on

[2:32:51] people this evening,

[2:32:51] especially when the thing I

[2:32:53] hear the most in my email is

[2:32:57] don't raise the tax. So.

[2:32:57] That's the word I'm going to

[2:32:59] be asking tonight is a no

[2:33:00] towards raising taxes for all

[2:33:01] those various reasons. I just

[2:33:04] said today that PRESIDENT.

[2:33:09] Vice PRESIDENT Barth. Thank

[2:33:10] you, MADAM PRESIDENT, let me

[2:33:15] start. Just by thinking cancer

[2:33:18] Nielsen for digging in on this

[2:33:19] and for his leadership in my

[2:33:20] time in the council has seen

[2:33:21] few people who have dug into

[2:33:23] the budget. It with such

[2:33:27] detail and precision as he

[2:33:29] has. He doing yeoman's job to

[2:33:30] get in on this, preparing this

[2:33:31] working with the General

[2:33:32] Assembly and getting out in

[2:33:32] the community and explaining

[2:33:35] what we're doing. So thanks.

[2:33:36] Thanks. Cancel Nielsen you

[2:33:37] deserve a lot of credit

[2:33:39] forgetting here tonight. My

[2:33:42] comments are that the poor

[2:33:43] condition of Indianapolis

[2:33:43] roads is not a matter of

[2:33:44] opinion. It's a matter of

[2:33:47] record years of chronic

[2:33:49] underinvestment have left our

[2:33:50] infrastructure and the state

[2:33:52] of serious deterioration,

[2:33:53] imposing real costs on

[2:33:54] residents, businesses and

[2:33:54] long-term competitiveness of

[2:33:58] our city. The question before

[2:33:58] this council is not whether

[2:33:59] action is needed. It's whether

[2:34:02] we have the will to act. The

[2:34:03] state of Indiana has answer

[2:34:04] that question with the

[2:34:06] commitment of its own 50

[2:34:08] manual and 50 million annually

[2:34:10] in matching funds available to

[2:34:13] Indianapolis. But only if the

[2:34:14] city demonstrates a sustained

[2:34:16] credible local funding match.

[2:34:17] That requirement goes year

[2:34:19] every year through 2031, a

[2:34:21] short term fix will not

[2:34:23] satisfied a short term fix

[2:34:24] will not satisfy. Let's not

[2:34:27] pretend that it well, only a

[2:34:28] durable long-term funding

[2:34:30] structure. Well. Proposal, one

[2:34:33] 92 provides exactly that. And

[2:34:34] I want to place this proposal

[2:34:36] and its proper historical

[2:34:38] context in the decade since,

[2:34:39] you know, got unified the city

[2:34:41] and county governments in

[2:34:43] 1970, no administration and no

[2:34:44] council has put forward a

[2:34:46] comprehensive long-term road

[2:34:48] funding plan. We've had

[2:34:49] studies we've had short term

[2:34:50] appropriations. We've had good

[2:34:51] intentions, but we've never

[2:34:55] had until now a sustainable

[2:34:56] framework for addressing road

[2:34:58] infrastructure as a

[2:34:59] generational obligation rather

[2:35:00] than an agile annual budget.

[2:35:03] Problem. I recognize that

[2:35:05] asking Indianapolis residents

[2:35:06] to contribute more at a time

[2:35:08] when household budgets are

[2:35:08] already under pressure

[2:35:10] requires justification. The

[2:35:13] justification is this the cost

[2:35:17] of inaction is not 0. It has

[2:35:19] paid every day by residents

[2:35:19] whose vehicle sustained damage

[2:35:23] and deteriorating roads by

[2:35:23] neighborhoods that bear the

[2:35:26] burden of deferred maintenance

[2:35:26] and by a city that contributes

[2:35:28] that continues to fall further

[2:35:30] behind the proposed fees

[2:35:32] represent an investment one

[2:35:34] that combined with the state

[2:35:36] match will generate a

[2:35:37] projected 856 million in road

[2:35:41] improvements over 5 years.

[2:35:41] That is a dramatic

[2:35:42] improvement. And what we can

[2:35:44] expect in our roads in the

[2:35:46] coming years. That's council

[2:35:47] has before an opportunity that

[2:35:49] no previous council has

[2:35:51] ceased. The state has provided

[2:35:52] a mechanism. The funding is

[2:35:54] available. That deadline is

[2:35:56] real. I support proposal one

[2:35:59] 92 and I'm confident that when

[2:36:00] Indianapolis looks back on

[2:36:01] this moment, it will be

[2:36:02] remembered at that point in

[2:36:03] which we finally chose to lead

[2:36:04] on a critical issue that

[2:36:09] affects everyone. Thank you,

[2:36:11] MADAM PRESIDENT, thank Bp

[2:36:12] Council Roberts, thank you.

[2:36:14] MADAM PRESIDENT, I come here

[2:36:15] today with, you know, the

[2:36:17] clearly this is a very, very

[2:36:19] hard vote. Think this MAY be

[2:36:20] the heart. So we are taken as

[2:36:21] a body. My years on the

[2:36:23] council. But honestly,

[2:36:24] simultaneously, I had the most

[2:36:25] clearly on this. But I think

[2:36:26] any vote I've ever cast as a

[2:36:28] counselor. I just start off

[2:36:31] saying in JANUARY when we were

[2:36:31] starting to think about this,

[2:36:32] I had a survey of my

[2:36:34] constituents that 500 people

[2:36:35] took Democrats, Republicans,

[2:36:39] independents multi knisley and

[2:36:40] 81% of people support of this.

[2:36:41] Now, a few weeks ago, ida

[2:36:42] follow-up survey which 300

[2:36:44] people responded to and still

[2:36:46] 63%. People responded to. And

[2:36:48] the feedback on that was

[2:36:50] amazing. They will also

[2:36:51] mention going door to door.

[2:36:52] When I talk to people about

[2:36:53] people that are posed to me

[2:36:54] about this a lot of times by

[2:36:55] the end of it, we're able to

[2:36:56] have a really good

[2:36:58] conversation because I think

[2:36:59] they're able to realize a lot

[2:37:00] of things that we all wish

[2:37:01] that we could do. We all wish

[2:37:03] we could change the road for

[2:37:05] funding formula. We wish we

[2:37:06] could tax marijuana. We should

[2:37:06] get tax data centers. We wish

[2:37:07] there were things the we could

[2:37:09] do simultaneously on this that

[2:37:12] we're just not able to do. I

[2:37:13] do truly believe this is the

[2:37:13] best tool in our toolbox to

[2:37:15] work on these road funding

[2:37:17] issues. This is by far the

[2:37:18] biggest issue we face as a

[2:37:19] city. And the reality is like

[2:37:22] has been highlighted. People

[2:37:23] are already paying every

[2:37:24] single year for bad roads and

[2:37:27] people. Pothole. That is an

[2:37:28] unpredicted outcome they'll

[2:37:31] have in their budget. I also

[2:37:34] disagree with counselor band

[2:37:38] his point. I am very much an

[2:37:38] advocate. There are definitely

[2:37:39] some agencies. Look at the

[2:37:40] budgets. Very tough and tough

[2:37:42] way to cut things. And they're

[2:37:44] definitely, you know, probably

[2:37:46] 10's of million dollars we can

[2:37:48] cut. But 1 million dollars

[2:37:49] here. 1 million dollars. There

[2:37:52] is very hard way to get

[2:37:53] 100 million dollars and also

[2:37:54] give example, you know, a lot

[2:37:55] of the agency we have impd

[2:37:57] parks, Fire Department, the

[2:37:59] reality of cutting agencies

[2:38:00] like that is having parks like

[2:38:01] in my district, some park

[2:38:03] where able to open the summer

[2:38:06] because we can't staff the

[2:38:07] park manager and the people

[2:38:08] that are there. And the

[2:38:09] reality is, I think a lot of

[2:38:10] times the study, there's

[2:38:10] millions and millions of

[2:38:11] dollars to cut. It is very,

[2:38:15] very hard to do. And I would

[2:38:15] love it if we could have some

[2:38:17] kind of interactive to Shore

[2:38:18] City budget, let people cut

[2:38:19] themselves. Look at individual

[2:38:21] programs. A lot harder

[2:38:23] actually do yourself. And yes,

[2:38:23] there's still things we

[2:38:26] absolutely should be doing,

[2:38:27] but really, truly to dedicate

[2:38:28] the money. We need to have

[2:38:29] better roads in our city. It

[2:38:30] will take courage. It will

[2:38:32] take a leadership and they

[2:38:33] really do give credit councils

[2:38:35] and forth on this said, you

[2:38:36] truly think it be a

[2:38:37] generational mistake. We

[2:38:37] passed on this investment for

[2:38:39] better roads. Thank you.

[2:38:45] Castor grapes. Thank you.

[2:38:46] MADAM PRESIDENT, MADAM

[2:38:46] PRESIDENT, if you don't mind

[2:38:50] me, I look to bring in the

[2:38:52] voice particular constituents

[2:38:56] that I spoke spoke with a few

[2:38:56] months ago. And I share with

[2:38:58] my colleagues and are in our

[2:39:00] caucus. But it was a standard

[2:39:04] call about a pothole client,

[2:39:05] student constituent upset.

[2:39:08] Initially I thought it was

[2:39:10] routine. But as as I listened

[2:39:12] to her share her story, looks

[2:39:15] like not only did it damage or

[2:39:17] tire, but it sure electronic

[2:39:20] sensor and her alignment. So

[2:39:22] this bill was ultimately

[2:39:26] $1400. And what struck me was

[2:39:26] she shared that she didn't

[2:39:27] really know how she was going

[2:39:29] to repair that. And she was a

[2:39:33] mother children. So MADAM

[2:39:34] PRESIDENT, its constituents

[2:39:36] like her that I want to

[2:39:37] acknowledge and that is why

[2:39:40] I'm supporting this proposal.

[2:39:43] This will Texas or Texas. The

[2:39:43] only way for us to meet the

[2:39:44] requirements established by

[2:39:46] the state legislature and

[2:39:47] received that state matching

[2:39:50] funds that necessary to make

[2:39:51] meaningful investments in our

[2:39:54] roads. But also, MADAM

[2:39:55] PRESIDENT, want to be clear

[2:39:58] about my expectations. I do

[2:40:00] know that and I want those who

[2:40:01] don't know to understand that

[2:40:03] every dollar that we receive

[2:40:04] for one purpose and that's our

[2:40:06] roads. No other projects. With

[2:40:09] that being said, I want to

[2:40:11] make sure MADAM PRESIDENT that

[2:40:11] the East side received the

[2:40:14] attention it deserves.

[2:40:15] Residents have waited far too

[2:40:16] long for better streets on the

[2:40:19] east side. We fought. We

[2:40:20] continue to 5 will continue

[2:40:25] that. Everyone in this process

[2:40:26] accountable for delivering the

[2:40:29] results. We see. Indianapolis

[2:40:32] is a world-class city in the

[2:40:33] east side is on the rise. I

[2:40:35] encourage all come visit.

[2:40:36] We've got some great, great

[2:40:37] things on the side. Our

[2:40:42] streets, though. They're

[2:40:43] they're lacking. We've got 4

[2:40:48] parks in my specific district.

[2:40:48] The streets that access each

[2:40:50] of those parks or in the worst

[2:40:51] conditions that you can

[2:41:00] imagine. We need this funding.

[2:41:01] Our residents deserve roads

[2:41:02] that are safe, reliable and

[2:41:03] worthy of the city that we're

[2:41:06] building. So for that reason,

[2:41:07] I'll be voting support. This

[2:41:10] proposal. Thank Thank you.

[2:41:16] Sharon Perkins. Thank MADAM

[2:41:20] PRESIDENT. We have engage in

[2:41:22] discussion over the pass 30,

[2:41:25] 40 days. And I think out said

[2:41:30] enough. But I feel compelled

[2:41:31] tonight just to make a general

[2:41:34] statement. If it wasn't 9.41,

[2:41:39] I would dress. This

[2:41:40] conversation around the way to

[2:41:42] address issue of

[2:41:43] infrastructure is attack

[2:41:47] equity and diversity. And its

[2:41:55] interest and from home that k.

[2:42:03] But it's 9.41 Leaders lead.

[2:42:07] You elected us. To lead in

[2:42:10] difficult situations. This is

[2:42:14] a difficult situation. I spent

[2:42:16] a lot of time traveling across

[2:42:23] this country. In cities.

[2:42:23] Similar smaller than

[2:42:24] Indianapolis. And every time I

[2:42:28] fly back home, I draw home.

[2:42:29] I'm reminded off the condition

[2:42:34] of for infrastructure. I

[2:42:36] wonder as the council can we

[2:42:40] imagine a better Indianapolis?

[2:42:42] i wonder if we can imagine.

[2:42:46] City county. Where we are

[2:42:49] proud to live here. But we are

[2:42:49] also proud to welcome people

[2:42:53] here to visit. Infrastructure

[2:42:58] needs work. And I encourage us

[2:42:58] as I'm supporting this

[2:43:00] proposal tonight. To consider

[2:43:03] what it looks like. For us to

[2:43:06] have a better Indianapolis.

[2:43:06] I'm also going challenge the

[2:43:11] administration. Because we

[2:43:11] have engage in this discussion

[2:43:14] over the last 40 days. And

[2:43:16] publicly. The administration

[2:43:19] is shared. Unwillingness to

[2:43:22] raise taxes. But have not

[2:43:24] given a clear plan as to how

[2:43:29] we get the match. Infants. As

[2:43:29] a council. This proposal going

[2:43:34] forward. To the people that

[2:43:35] elected us give elected us to

[2:43:37] make difficult decisions. And

[2:43:39] tonight as one of those, thank

[2:43:44] you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

[2:43:48] CHAIRWOMAN Brown. Thank you,

[2:43:50] MADAM PRESIDENT, I just want

[2:43:51] to I ripped my colleagues have

[2:43:52] said a lot. The one thing I do

[2:43:54] want to say as somebody whose

[2:43:56] district is entirely excluded

[2:43:58] city. I live in, Lawrence, my

[2:43:59] whole district is the city of

[2:44:01] Lawrence. I can tell you I

[2:44:02] know exactly how much money is

[2:44:04] going. Go back to my district

[2:44:05] City of Orange is going to

[2:44:07] receive 3.8 million dollars

[2:44:09] from this. And in

[2:44:10] Indianapolis, that doesn't

[2:44:10] sound like a lot. That's more

[2:44:11] than 10% of the city's current

[2:44:14] budget. That's gonna make a

[2:44:15] heck of a different speech.

[2:44:17] Grove is going to get over a

[2:44:20] million dollars. Warren says

[2:44:21] 50,000 people beach Groves got

[2:44:23] up about 8,000. I believe so.

[2:44:25] That's quite a difference for

[2:44:26] excluded. I'm not sure of the

[2:44:27] numbers, a speedway or

[2:44:28] Southport off the top. My

[2:44:30] head. But this just doesn't

[2:44:31] affect Indianapolis. It

[2:44:32] affects all these other cities

[2:44:34] who have been so hard by sb

[2:44:38] One. And if what's being

[2:44:39] talked about by people who are

[2:44:41] entering the state house this

[2:44:42] next session about cutting

[2:44:44] property taxes or even

[2:44:47] eliminating them excludes are

[2:44:47] going to disappear in

[2:44:48] Indianapolis is going to be

[2:44:50] crippled. We can't cut our way

[2:44:51] out if we end up with no

[2:44:54] money. We have to do this.

[2:44:56] It's terrible. It's horrible.

[2:44:57] It's what we're being fed. And

[2:45:00] I don't know. I've talked to

[2:45:01] Republican leaders at the

[2:45:02] state House and they have told

[2:45:04] me this is what this was set

[2:45:05] up for was for you to raise

[2:45:06] taxes. This is what we're

[2:45:10] doing with. It's what we have

[2:45:12] to do. None of us want to do

[2:45:14] this. It's terrible that we

[2:45:17] have to. But if we don't,

[2:45:17] generation going to destroy.

[2:45:19] Indianapolis is roads. Thank

[2:45:22] you. MADAM Chair. CHAIRWOMAN

[2:45:25] Jones. Thank you. MADAM

[2:45:29] PRESIDENT. As the chair of

[2:45:30] Public works, it's no secret

[2:45:32] that I love infrastructure and

[2:45:34] I on infrastructure. So thank

[2:45:36] you for this opportunity.

[2:45:37] Thank you to all my colleagues

[2:45:40] who have worked really, really

[2:45:42] this topic, not just for the

[2:45:43] last few months, but for for

[2:45:44] years before this and

[2:45:46] advocating on this and for our

[2:45:47] residents for coming out to

[2:45:48] the committee meetings and to

[2:45:49] the public meetings for your

[2:45:52] voices to be heard. One point,

[2:45:53] I do want to make that your

[2:45:56] voices were heard and for the

[2:46:00] colleagues that have alleys we

[2:46:02] advocated for Ali funding in

[2:46:03] this proposal because we have

[2:46:05] districts that have alleys

[2:46:08] that do not get funding are

[2:46:09] very much funding. And so that

[2:46:11] was something that we out

[2:46:13] advocated heavily for to a

[2:46:16] tool to have some resources

[2:46:18] put into alleys for those

[2:46:19] districts. So we have listened

[2:46:21] to our residents and as tough

[2:46:24] as this is, this is something

[2:46:30] that we must must do. And also

[2:46:32] for our ask me 7.25 workers.

[2:46:33] This is dedicated work. This

[2:46:37] is guaranteed work. This is a

[2:46:39] fiscal injection into our

[2:46:40] residential streets. This will

[2:46:44] guarantee them work as well.

[2:46:45] And one thing that we hear

[2:46:46] about as counselor being

[2:46:47] talked about, he said, I think

[2:46:49] he's a 9% of his constituent

[2:46:52] correspondents is

[2:46:53] infrastructure. So as tough

[2:46:54] this is and like you said, you

[2:46:58] don't want to raise taxes. Our

[2:46:59] residents are depending on us

[2:47:00] to fix the future of the city

[2:47:02] and to fix a future of our

[2:47:03] infrastructure. I'm just at

[2:47:04] thank you. My colleagues

[2:47:07] thanking the constituents,

[2:47:08] whether you agree with us and

[2:47:09] not for writing in for coming

[2:47:12] to this committee meetings

[2:47:14] thinking department public

[2:47:14] works. Workers also for the

[2:47:15] future work that is in your

[2:47:16] future. If we can get this

[2:47:18] across the finish line. And I

[2:47:19] think my colleagues for

[2:47:19] sharing the stories of their

[2:47:20] constituents as well. Thank

[2:47:23] you. Additional comments

[2:47:27] counts talent. Thank you.

[2:47:32] MADAM PRESIDENT. Taking note

[2:47:35] from you, you said you said in

[2:47:36] several of our meetings, you

[2:47:37] say it as elected officials.

[2:47:38] We don't wake up and say that

[2:47:43] we want to raise taxes. That's

[2:47:44] not something that we ought

[2:47:45] Thank you, No sand for all

[2:47:49] your hard work it is because I

[2:47:50] know that this hasn't been

[2:47:55] easy enough saying use it in

[2:47:57] each meeting, a u turn around

[2:47:57] each gust to 20, hear exactly

[2:48:00] what they had to say. You

[2:48:02] state after each meeting to

[2:48:04] make sure that you answered

[2:48:06] every question that every

[2:48:09] constituent showed up to every

[2:48:10] meeting. So I commend you for

[2:48:13] all the work that you put into

[2:48:14] this. Also with that being

[2:48:18] said, also, MADAM PRESIDENT.

[2:48:19] As you said in each meeting,

[2:48:23] we haven't got another plane.

[2:48:24] And this is the only plan that

[2:48:26] has been presented to the

[2:48:27] council and in leadership,

[2:48:32] leadership is hard and

[2:48:32] councilor robbers. I have to

[2:48:33] say this is probably one of

[2:48:36] the hardest decisions since

[2:48:37] week can't became account so

[2:48:40] that I have had because I too

[2:48:44] have a mom. That is a senior

[2:48:46] citizen. Am I gonna have to

[2:48:47] help her probably pay for her

[2:48:47] registration for a license

[2:48:49] plate. Yes, I am. But at the

[2:48:52] same time I receive those

[2:48:57] emails even just last week I

[2:48:58] did a press release point

[2:49:01] Greenway Trail, which I was

[2:49:02] gonna be good for the Far East

[2:49:04] Side because oftentimes people

[2:49:05] think I have felt that the far

[2:49:10] East side of that said has got

[2:49:11] left out and we're doing

[2:49:13] having economic development

[2:49:16] happen on the But when posted

[2:49:19] about the Greenway Trail. I

[2:49:21] get negative feedback and said

[2:49:23] it. This is what choose to do

[2:49:26] with that money. We need pa,

[2:49:27] we need our potholes. We MAY

[2:49:31] stir up. We need strip patchy.

[2:49:33] Also another subdivision in my

[2:49:35] history. They've been waiting

[2:49:41] for years to and new strip

[2:49:42] patching and there's history

[2:49:45] took and put that as apply or

[2:49:48] and to get that phone call,

[2:49:49] nothing against dpw. But to

[2:49:50] get that phone call from our

[2:49:52] council say Councilor Allen,

[2:49:57] we cannot. Thanks. The street

[2:49:58] is going to take more money is

[2:50:00] going to take more work. And

[2:50:01] I'm like want to tell my kids

[2:50:02] to join the property manager,

[2:50:05] the PRESIDENT Of this H.O.A.

[2:50:06] Only thing you can do is be

[2:50:09] honest. And I responded pet in

[2:50:11] a response until 2 weeks ago

[2:50:14] when they had another

[2:50:15] complaint. So I say I live at

[2:50:18] to say our stories. I'm very

[2:50:21] important and were put in our

[2:50:22] constituents spending more

[2:50:23] money when they have to get

[2:50:25] their tires fakes. And not

[2:50:27] only that is taking out time

[2:50:29] in a still taken out. Is

[2:50:30] taking money from the table

[2:50:32] also. So either way it goes

[2:50:36] where between Ahart's bought,

[2:50:36] you know, is is this is not

[2:50:37] difficult. So I encourage each

[2:50:41] one of my. Colleagues to

[2:50:42] support this. Is this a great

[2:50:44] decision? No, but is it hard?

[2:50:45] Yes, but we have to take this

[2:50:50] to do something. Additional

[2:50:56] comments. Will now proceed to

[2:51:07] the board for a vote. The

[2:51:14] proposal carries 14, 2.10 now

[2:51:15] proceed is special service

[2:51:16] District Council. There's no

[2:51:19] business there. Excitement

[2:51:23] agenda is business. Senator

[2:51:25] Frist, a 2 announcements in

[2:51:27] adjournment agenda for this

[2:51:28] meeting of the council having

[2:51:29] been completed chair will not

[2:51:29] entertain motion for

[2:51:32] adjournment. MADAM PRESIDENT,

[2:51:32] the chair recognizes later

[2:51:36] marry. MADAM PRESIDENT. I

[2:51:37] haven't asked offer the

[2:51:39] following motion for a term.

[2:51:40] It but Councilor j Brown

[2:51:44] memory of from. A counselor, a

[2:51:46] brown memory of Kevin Bennett

[2:51:48] by counselors, Robert

[2:51:49] Counselors, Robertson, memory

[2:51:50] of Ridge. And Sean, to shot

[2:51:52] today, sot hat on innings.

[2:51:56] Apologies for that. But

[2:51:58] councilors Lewis in memory of

[2:51:59] Harold Coleman junior, Laura j

[2:52:05] Van Ph d. Michael t Crawford,

[2:52:07] Don, are doing and Tracy, why

[2:52:09] Washington by counselors,

[2:52:10] Lewis and Knowsley in memory

[2:52:14] of Virgil are mad like al Ser

[2:52:16] Nielsen memory of William

[2:52:16] Ferdinand. When, you know,

[2:52:19] junior and Rita Walsh by

[2:52:20] counselors, Lewis and Neil

[2:52:21] said in memory of and Murray

[2:52:23] Sutton. Councilors Lewis give

[2:52:28] scenery of Mark Russell. By

[2:52:29] counselors, robbers Louis in a

[2:52:32] vain Cahill deal heart our

[2:52:34] memory of Betty modeling

[2:52:36] McQuillan but Councilor

[2:52:37] Barthen memory Mary Jo

[2:52:38] Campbell by Slee in memory of

[2:52:43] Francis. Evan Evans. Fred

[2:52:48] Slack. Samuel Leasing. Aubrey

[2:52:49] Summers, Scott Anthony

[2:52:51] Ferguson and Virginia Hawkins.

[2:52:53] MADAM PRESIDENT, I would like

[2:52:53] to move the German of this

[2:52:56] meeting of Indianapolis City

[2:52:57] County Council in recognition

[2:52:58] and of and respect for the

[2:52:59] life and contributions of

[2:53:01] those persons I have here

[2:53:04] specifically name. I put I

[2:53:05] respectfully requests. For

[2:53:06] fellow councilors are further

[2:53:08] requests that the a part of

[2:53:08] the permit records of this

[2:53:09] body. And then a letter

[2:53:10] bearing the council see on the

[2:53:11] stage for the PRESIDENT. He

[2:53:12] said to the family of each

[2:53:12] person advising of this

[2:53:17] action. Thank you, Leader

[2:53:17] Mary. You're no objections.

[2:53:19] The motion is receiving

[2:53:20] requests are so order. Your

[2:53:20] know for the motions. We are

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