Transportation, Infrastructure and Operations Committee

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[0:00] Welcome to I know I'm Kevin on the old chair.
[0:04] Eric, Brian Schwartz, District.
[0:08] The council conducts the district.
[0:10] Unlined.
[0:11] Council will rob some.
[0:19] Can you hear us, councilwoman?
[0:22] I'm trying to unmute her.
[0:25] Can you hear us?
[0:27] No.
[0:28] No. Okay.
[0:29] But it was muted in the chamber.
[0:30] Good morning.
[0:31] Melissa Roberts and our district.
[0:33] Thank you.
[0:34] Staff.
[0:35] Thank you, Ross city clerk's office.
[0:37] Jeff Martin, senior's office.
[0:39] Drew Van Kelsky, law department.
[0:40] Kid Morgan, water services.
[0:42] I'm in the end and I create a department.
[0:45] Much.
[0:46] Go to the first ordinance.
[0:48] There will be no holds today.
[0:50] Please go to record.
[0:55] 26069.
[0:58] Authorizing a director of water services to execute a 2,442,330 dollar construction contract
[1:05] for kids.
[1:06] Construction company for the water main replacement in the area of truth.
[1:10] Avenue to Brooklyn Avenue.
[1:12] East 83rd Street to East 85th Street project.
[1:15] Authorizing a maximum expenditure of 2,686,500.
[1:19] $563.
[1:20] In recognizing this ordinance has happened and accelerated effect today.
[1:25] Thank you.
[1:26] Good morning, Chair O'Neill.
[1:28] David Boyer with Casey Water.
[1:32] Chief engineering officer.
[1:34] To my right.
[1:35] I have an amitious and an Ika.
[1:37] She is the engineering section head of water distribution.
[1:40] Just want to say happy voting day.
[1:43] To you all.
[1:44] So today, ordinance number 26069 is a water main replacement project.
[1:51] This contract is a $2.4 million project to replace about 5,400 linear feet
[1:59] of bright chrome water main.
[2:03] This project aims to replace aging bright chrome cast iron pipe with new more resilient
[2:08] decliner pipe.
[2:10] This contract was advertised to bid we received three or five bids and with kissic
[2:16] being the lowest response of responsible bidder.
[2:21] This project is a project number three out of 10 sled for fiscal year 27.
[2:27] So far today we bid three projects hopefully with the vote result today.
[2:33] We'll be able to proceed with the remainder of the slated projects for this fiscal year.
[2:37] I'd like to turn over to an amitia for additional information on this project.
[2:44] Good morning.
[2:45] This is an Ika.
[2:46] I'm the engineering section head in water distribution.
[2:50] This is the project map project site map.
[2:53] We are reposing approximately 5,455 linear feet of 4 inch, 6 inch, 8 inch,
[3:01] Great PRONC ID water pipes with 6 inch age and 12 inch dog tile iron pipes.
[3:10] For public engagement we will host public information sheet on our web page,
[3:20] kissic water project site and there will be a virtual reconstruction at public meeting.
[3:26] casey water and casey water and cilidis will be invited internally and affected customers
[3:33] would receive a postcard and the postcard would have a QR code that they can scan to join
[3:39] the meeting.
[3:41] This is an opportunity for affected customers to meet the project team that includes the
[3:46] project manager, contract and inspector and also during the meeting will give an overview
[3:53] of the project and construction activity.
[3:57] The meeting will be recorded and it will be posted online.
[4:01] Also during the construction phase, contractors will notify the customers prior to traffic
[4:06] disruptions as well as before brief water outages.
[4:11] Next slide.
[4:14] MBEW is subcontractor participation, clear casey approved the cup on July 20th with 11% MBE and
[4:23] 11% WBE participation MBE firm TWS tracking WBE firm EJN Sun's construction.
[4:32] We'll take any questions.
[4:37] Alex, have any questions?
[4:39] You'll see any is someone from kissing?
[4:42] We contacted them.
[4:45] We did.
[4:46] Yes.
[4:47] Let's be stuck in traffic.
[4:48] I'm sorry, sir.
[4:50] We'll let them.
[4:51] We'll like to slide on this one.
[4:53] We'll give them a flashing moment return.
[4:55] Just because unrelated.
[5:01] There was some water main work on Gillum fairly recently and several different rounds of it.
[5:10] The cycle track at 36th Street was not put back in the track.
[5:19] The crosswalk is still needs to be fixed and there's some of the flex posts that get returned.
[5:27] So just if someone could check on that, it'd be great to see that brought back up to what
[5:33] it was like prior to the construction.
[5:35] That's just north of the 39th Street right here.
[5:39] I'm Gillum.
[5:40] Yeah.
[5:41] Yeah.
[5:42] Got some.
[5:43] Similarly related and this might be a question for Director Morgan.
[5:47] How are we looking?
[5:48] I know that we had some delays regarding resurfacing after we've done some water main replacement
[5:55] work.
[5:56] I know that in my district on 49th Street that seemed to take quite a long while.
[6:02] The resurfacing on.
[6:05] I believe it was selfless traffic way.
[6:09] I'm seemed to take quite a long while.
[6:11] So what what seems what what is causing the delay in that road resurfacing after we do those
[6:17] what that that water work underground and what are we doing to expedite that.
[6:24] That's a good question.
[6:25] With a number of projects to where you have different streets where the water main replacement activities
[6:34] exist.
[6:38] What we've been doing is just trying to have the resurfacing contractors mobilize singularly and sometimes
[6:45] that creates a problem because you have one project completed and then it takes a little
[6:50] longer before you get another project completed.
[6:53] So the mobilized to get the resurfacing done that encompasses all of that is more of a timely
[7:00] takes a little bit longer time.
[7:02] So what we're doing is trying to coordinate a better scheduling to get the resurfacing contractors
[7:09] in an entirely manner once the work is done.
[7:12] And part of that is going to possibly require us to restructure some of the contract documents so
[7:18] that we can get that done in a more expeditious manner.
[7:21] That's the biggest challenge is just when you when they mobilize each time they mobilize there are certain
[7:27] additional charges and so we're trying to establish a mechanism.
[7:32] So where those numbers are reduced or balanced over the the entire projects.
[7:37] Thank you for that.
[7:39] How are we currently?
[7:40] I guess my question is do we know do you have a little bit of a ballpark average of how long
[7:45] it's taking like once once a waterman replacement is done how long before the resurfacing will happen?
[7:55] I will say this past this year we we we we aim to improve upon what would happen last year.
[8:02] Part of it was was a funding issue.
[8:04] But six months is the current maximum amount of time.
[8:08] We aim for less than a month.
[8:10] Okay, so like director Morgan was saying.
[8:13] If you look at like on this map for instance and this is a relatively small project.
[8:18] It's only 5400 linear feet typically it's 2 to 3 times greater.
[8:22] You can see that the streets aren't contiguous so what happens is one segment will get completed.
[8:28] We'll play down the concrete which is a durable reliable surface but it's not the end product right and then we wait for the entire project to be completed.
[8:37] And then mobilize and do that entire project.
[8:39] We we found that this isn't acceptable and we're going to track in the future segment by segment and get these done at a quicker pace.
[8:50] So that's done within a month of that.
[8:53] That's sweeping completed.
[8:55] We're currently working actually with public works to to work out the particulars on this.
[9:00] Thank you because our residents don't know.
[9:02] They all they see is a torn up road for six months and wondering why the hell it's not it's not getting repaid.
[9:08] So thank you.
[9:10] Any other.
[9:11] I might while I while we're on water.
[9:15] Ask.
[9:16] Director.
[9:18] Can to give it.
[9:20] I sent you an email the other day about the hacking.
[9:23] I think you guys might have seen the story that was a bunch of water projects hacked around the country.
[9:30] And I just asked the director if there is if we have as a city a plan going forward to make sure that we are not one of the.
[9:42] Hacked victims of of this.
[9:46] You want me to give an update on what we have in the works to to over to make sure that that's not.
[9:53] So the water industry as a whole has several layers.
[9:59] We have entities and agencies some federal and some industry-related agencies that are monitoring the.
[10:09] IT and OT.
[10:11] So the internet technology activity as well as the operational technology activity.
[10:17] And so the difference is that knows is how you.
[10:20] Managing operate plants were as well as how you access into systems and such.
[10:27] And so we as an industry.
[10:31] I have standards for monitoring and observing and the question you raised to me the other day was relative to.
[10:38] The incidents that occurred in Minnesota.
[10:42] July 26 and 27 were approximately 30.
[10:46] The community water systems were attacked with threats of cyber cyber attacks.
[10:54] And so those were observed monitor.
[10:59] And what is happening now is it's trying to identify the sources so.
[11:04] Make a long story short there are a number of ways in which our industry is monitoring observing.
[11:11] There are a number of mechanisms in place to thwart and to distort and to stop.
[11:17] If you will illegal access from those entities.
[11:22] August 20th I'm going to be in Denver at a water security summit.
[11:26] And there are new provisions in terms of identifying and assessing threats.
[11:32] And so the standards have changed.
[11:35] And so we're going to be discussing that in all day workshop in Denver August 20th.
[11:41] And so I'll come back to this body and provide a report.
[11:45] But to answer your question, ensure there are a lot of mechanisms in place to protect and to go out our systems against.
[11:53] The illegal access.
[11:56] Any other questions?
[11:59] All right.
[12:01] Ask if there was any public testimony on this ordinance.
[12:05] No public testimony.
[12:07] That would indicate a motion.
[12:09] Yes Mr. Chair, I'm going to move to the number 2660669.
[12:12] Be a report out of committee of recommendation or fancy to pass.
[12:15] All those in favor.
[12:16] All right.
[12:17] Hi.
[12:19] All those against.
[12:21] Thank you.
[12:24] 26.
[12:26] Excuse me.
[12:27] Two six zero six seven zero authorizing the manager of procurement services to execute a 2 million
[12:32] $800,000 dollar facility repair and maintenance contract for libert mechanical services for the
[12:39] HFAC preventative maintenance and repair project authorizing for successive one year renewal options with
[12:45] Barther city council approval and recognizing this ordinance is having an accelerated effective day.
[12:52] Good morning, Chair O'Neill.
[12:53] In kelp's members.
[12:54] Data player with KC water chief engineering officer.
[12:58] Order number 2660670 is requesting authorization for 2.8 million dollar contract with a four year renewal option.
[13:09] This contract is for our HVAC preventative maintenance and repair contract.
[13:15] We have over a hundred and ten facilities.
[13:18] I don't know if you guys realize that.
[13:20] We have obviously the one treatment plant.
[13:23] Six waste water treatment plants.
[13:25] Over eighteen pump stations.
[13:27] Water pump stations.
[13:28] Sixty three sewage pump stations.
[13:30] Very split pump stations and administrative buildings.
[13:33] So this contract addresses all the HVAC systems within those facilities.
[13:38] This contract was completely advertised.
[13:41] And we see two competitive bits with liver mechanical being the lowest responsive responsible
[13:48] bit.
[13:51] Here's an example.
[13:54] Photographs indicating the types of facilities that we're working on.
[13:59] As you can see, there's a variety of different types of HVAC systems.
[14:04] It requires a specialized knowledge of these systems to maintain them and then repair them.
[14:10] We need to be repaired.
[14:15] This contract utilization.
[14:19] Pre-O utilization for this contract came in with a 12 and 12 MBE, WBE participation.
[14:28] You can see the firms listed on this slide who will be achieving those goals.
[14:34] And with that, I'll take any questions.
[14:37] You have someone from Lippert, I believe.
[14:42] Thank you for attending, appreciate it.
[14:45] Any questions from my colleagues?
[14:50] I would ask for any public testimony.
[14:53] There's no public testimony for this ordinance.
[14:55] I would entertain a motion.
[14:57] Mr. Chair, I'm going to order some of the two sticks.
[15:00] 0670, report out of committee, recommendation, advance, and depas.
[15:04] Again, all those in favour? Aye. Aye. All those opposed?
[15:08] What are these passes? Thank you, guys. Thank you, David.
[15:12] Our next two, six, zero, six, seven, three.
[15:16] Otherwise, in a director of water services to execute a $1,300,000 professional specialized
[15:22] or technical services contract with peer technology.
[15:27] Weights, water services for the hydrant and water valve assessment,
[15:32] management and mapping project, and other as in five successive one year renewal options with further city council approval.
[15:41] Good morning, Chair O'Neill.
[15:43] In council members, I did a employer chief engineering officer at TAC Water.
[15:47] Or, just number two, six, zero, six, seven, three is a contract for a hydrant water valve assessment program.
[15:57] This contract authorizes a $1.3 million with a five successive one year renewal options with your approval, of course.
[16:08] This contract involves the exercising and assessment of a number of our valves for our system.
[16:16] We're required by law actually to touch every one of our hydrants once a year.
[16:24] So, this contract has blocks, blocks, blocks construction, I believe,
[16:32] the company, water services, block services.
[16:36] They touch about one eighth of these hydrants.
[16:39] What they do here is they exercise the hydrants, they flush the hydrant,
[16:44] and then they take a number of data parameters that we feed into a logging system that we've been used to analyze how the systems operating.
[16:53] So, we find their service very useful in that regard.
[16:57] They also touch about one eighth of our valve system every year.
[17:03] They collect also data upon the system, how many number of turns.
[17:08] They also do a number of in place repairs.
[17:12] So, what we found was with this contract by replacing the opnut or various parts of the valve mechanism that can replace in place.
[17:22] We've lengthened the life of that asset and reduced the cost for repair,
[17:29] since we don't have to excavate to repair.
[17:31] They have specialized tools and equipment to do this type of work.
[17:36] MBDW goals for this contract are set at 15 and 15.
[17:42] MBD firm SE3 group will be participating on my NORD on the side.
[17:48] And J and J survey will be doing the work on the women on the business side.
[17:52] I'll be willing to take any questions you have about this contract.
[17:56] Any questions from my colleagues, is there someone here from Sure or?
[18:02] Longs.
[18:03] They're here.
[18:04] There they are here.
[18:05] Walks.
[18:06] Yeah.
[18:07] You guys are walks?
[18:08] Yeah.
[18:09] Thanks for coming.
[18:10] Appreciate it.
[18:11] All right.
[18:12] Any public testimony on this?
[18:14] There's no public testimony for this ordinance.
[18:16] Any public testimony?
[18:17] It's Mr. Chair.
[18:19] Maybe that one's number 260673 group, be reported on a committee
[18:23] recommendation advanced to past.
[18:24] Second.
[18:25] All those in favor.
[18:26] Aye.
[18:27] Aye.
[18:28] Aye.
[18:29] There's 26.
[18:30] Aye.
[18:31] All those opposed.
[18:32] Where'd this pass is?
[18:34] Thank you.
[18:35] Thank you.
[18:37] Ten more.
[18:38] Ten more to say.
[18:40] Two six zero six seven five.
[18:44] in appropriations in the Capital Improvement Sales Text Fund by $4 million from District 1, project
[18:50] coding, appropriating $4 million from the unappropriated fund balance of the Capital Improvement
[18:58] Sales Text Fund for the construction of Berry and Indian Ascension and Staley High North East
[19:04] Show Creek Parkway and Recognizing this ordinance is having an accelerated effect of day.
[19:08] Good morning Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, Todd Lattarella Public Works Capital
[19:15] Projects, to my right. I have Aaron Peck Project Manager Capital Projects.
[19:21] Ordnance 2660-675 appropriates funding for two projects. One on the top of the slide there is
[19:29] North East Show Creek Parkway, essentially from the roundabout at North Woodland Ave over to
[19:35] North East under an A-Street. The second project are the intersection improvements at North East
[19:41] Berry Road in North India and the half. So on the the 4 million being moved over it
[19:53] is coming from another district one project in my correct. I can't answer that. I can find out.
[20:06] I believe the split is 1 million going to the intersection improvements in the Anon Berry
[20:12] and the 3 million going to the North East Show Creek Parkway. Is any of that going to the street light
[20:19] that is the temporary street light we have there on Indian Embarry? Yes, that's part of the
[20:25] improvements as installing the permanent street light. Which we have to do add the turn lanes and things like
[20:31] that in order to get those installed. The improvements up by Staley High School which is right in front
[20:36] of Staley High School are what? That's encompassed from essentially the roundabout at Woodland all the
[20:46] over to North East to a hundred A-Street. It will include basically we're going to T-Eat that intersection
[20:52] up on North East Staley Road. We're actually going to T-Eat that into I think that's Falcon Drive
[20:57] that goes into the Staley High School. So we're going to make that a T intersection if you look at
[21:03] the picture there but that those intersection improvements so. And that's for safety. Yes. Yes, sir.
[21:08] We've had a lot of accidents. Do you think? We've had a lot of accidents. Yes.
[21:13] That can be on the question. Is this on the district one CRP?
[21:21] Yeah, we've been working on this for quite a while and I will say Nathan has put a lot of effort
[21:27] into this and we've tried we've been trying to find funding for that Staley Road for quite some time.
[21:31] Yes, sir. All right. Any other questions? Any public testimony?
[21:39] There's no public testimony for this ordinance. All right I would entertain a motion.
[21:44] This Mr. Chair, I'm going to move that over to the 26660675 Bureau of Foreign and Community
[21:49] Transportation Advance because. Second. All those in favor? Hi. Hi. All those opposed.
[21:55] Ordnance passes. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you.
[22:01] Now I think we're going to have a short presentation from with a jail update from our corrections department.
[22:19] Community safety department. Sorry. Mr. Chair.
[22:27] Director now. Deputy director case. Now you're just showing off because you know everybody's name.
[22:38] Are you ready, sir? Yeah. Please. Good morning, Chairman O'Neill. Good morning.
[22:43] Council members. Thank you for having us. I'm Diane Annap. I'm the Director of the Department of Community
[22:49] Safety. I have with me Deputy Director of Administration Megan case and Deputy Director of Operations
[22:54] Lucas Castilla. We are here to give you an update on the progress of the Kansas City
[23:01] Municipal Correctional and Rehabilitation Facility located at 7740 Eastman Street.
[23:08] Things are progressing very well. This project has been done in record time. All of the consultants
[23:16] involved agree that they've never seen a correctional facility of the size come up this
[23:20] quickly. And so it has been done incredibly well given the time parameters that were allocated in the
[23:25] budget and resources and the intention. So as corrections professional and very pleased with what
[23:33] the facility has to offer in this space and face one of the overall program. We are expecting.
[23:40] We are expecting the department and the consulting group to be able to do a full presentation
[23:45] to counsel on the further phases of the project to include the permanent facility and the
[23:51] community resource plan set of plans. I think you're going to be really pleased with those.
[23:56] Right now there's a request for business meeting on September 3rd and it is our hope to present
[24:01] that meeting. So that is in the work so much more comprehensive vision of the overall plan is going to be
[24:07] available in the short term. The facility is designed for a rated capacity of 136 beds.
[24:15] Now what that means is the operational capacity is about 110. It is an industry standard
[24:21] that you don't fill a correctional facility past 80%. And the reasons for that are, I mean you need to be able
[24:27] to separate people appropriately to their classification. You also need to be able to vacate
[24:32] parts of the facility for ongoing maintenance and repairs which are inevitable. When you over fill a facility
[24:39] security is challenged it becomes less safe. It becomes difficult to separate people who need to
[24:45] be separated and it becomes virtually impossible to do any routine care maintenance. So I just wanted
[24:50] to, every chance I get, I want to make sure that we're educating everybody about the difference between
[24:56] rated capacity and operational capacity. At this point the building has does not have temporary
[25:02] certificate of occupancy yet but we do expect we're hoping optimistic we'll have that by the end of
[25:07] the week and I'll let ACM Martin weigh in on that here in just a moment. We expect at this point to be
[25:15] able to take releases off case EPDs played by the end of September. That is my target date for that
[25:21] operation to do so I only need to be able to run two shifts. You're talking about releases you're talking
[25:27] about the releases in Vernon and Johnson. That's correct. Right now those individuals are transported
[25:34] up to South Patrol and we want to have them transported to our facility and then release from there.
[25:38] So I think that by September 30th we should be able to pull that off procurement and legal are working
[25:44] very hard right now on all of the varied service contracts that need to be in place. Probably the most
[25:50] important among those is the medical services contract and they need 90 day window to get operational
[25:57] following contract signature. So we can run a release operation with them with ER it being a resource
[26:06] because we would only have individuals of the facility for a very tiny window but we can't have overnight
[26:11] people until we've got medical employees so that's just one of the hurdles that needs to be crossed
[26:15] to get there but I can tell you that we're getting a lot of help from HR like I saw already procurement
[26:21] and legal IT we still have to we can't have anything delivered to the facility until we take control
[26:27] of the building so a lot of deliveries have to be scheduled for equipment and supplies. That's a general
[26:35] overview. I can tell you that everybody's working really hard and we've built an incredible leadership team
[26:41] works on arrays with the architecture department. What do you thank you? She's just a fantastic team
[26:49] member and has worked right there with us and so we're truly grateful for all the work that's been
[26:53] done. It's really been a beautiful collaboration and so with that I'm going to let ACM Martin talk about
[27:00] TCO. So when you say you're hoping to get occupancy license by Friday or the end of the week does that mean
[27:08] you'll be able to open the following week or what is that? If we can get the TCO by Friday we will be able to
[27:16] transfer our custody staff out to that location next week but we still don't have computers or phones or
[27:23] things like that out there so there are a lot of things that have to happen but at least once we have that
[27:28] we can set move dates and we can set install dates so that's going to be a big hurdle. When would you anticipate
[27:36] you will be moved in there as far as it makes and such? It's premature for me to give you that sir there's
[27:43] too many moving parts yet but again the first operation that we plan to be able to facilitate is the
[27:50] release of our inmates and I expect to be able to do that by September 30th. So on the TCO the
[27:59] contractor is currently working with our code inspector and the in the contract we've hired to do
[28:08] some of the commissioning testing so there's a there's a couple poll tests they have to do on
[28:13] bolts for the the building that was erected they have to give a special jack in to be able to complete
[28:19] that testing on that so that's been the delay on that but they test be getting that completed this week
[28:24] which should finalize the the commissioning aspects of it to ensure we have a safe building to occupy
[28:31] that we'll be able to move forward from there so. I shouldn't turn my colleagues.
[28:38] Director NAP thank you when at the end of September we start taking over at least as can you talk a
[28:44] little bit more with that looks like are we are we prepared because I know right now the you know folks are being
[28:51] released from during burning in Johnson County and then and then we take them and then they're at one
[28:57] of the control stations so how does that are we going to start taking all of the releases from
[29:02] burning in Johnson County that that's that's my goal I believe that we can facilitate their releases
[29:07] from our facility which will enable us to better do warm handoffs treatment providers for those
[29:13] individuals who do not have a ride we we made a commitment to northeast that we would not there would not be
[29:18] pedestrian traffic out of the facility so for those individuals who do not have been
[29:23] ride someone picking them up or a treatment van picking them up we will either be taking them to if they
[29:30] are going to shelter will take them to shelter if they are not if they've got a place they're going to go
[29:36] they just didn't have a ride we're going to transport them to the patrol substation closest to their home
[29:42] base so wherever that is so if that's up north center whatever whichever patrol station is closest to
[29:48] there whatever support system they have so just I know you don't want to give a day but when are we talking
[30:00] What date can we expect this to be fully operational?
[30:04] Well, I can say that it won't be operational before we have medical contract. And the medical contract
[30:09] needs 90 days to be operational after signature, it's not signed yet.
[30:14] Why is that? It's going back and forth between the attorneys. It's a complicated contract.
[30:20] The medical care of our population is a major operation, so it's just been, it's moving with appropriate speed.
[30:28] Consistent with my experience at Jackson County, this is, it just takes this kind of time.
[30:34] There's a lot of fine tuning that goes into a contract of that magnitude.
[30:38] And you're the professionals and I get it, and I don't mean to question your professionalism.
[30:44] I'm just curious with the staffing and with the contracts.
[30:50] We've known that we were building this or over a year here in a half, I think.
[30:58] Why wouldn't those be in the pipeline of time friends?
[31:04] You know what I mean?
[31:05] Well, sorry, I think that they weren't. The RFPs for the medical contract predate me.
[31:10] I, you know, I joined the team on March 16th and the RFPs for a multitude of services.
[31:18] We're going to do back in from the bidders. I think the week before I started.
[31:22] So Deputy Director Case had all of those moving. She really, really carried her herkily and load prior to the development of the team.
[31:30] And she stood that up independently and did an amazing job.
[31:35] So given the resources and the absence of a leadership team to support her, I really do think it was done incredibly well.
[31:45] It's all been revised on that and this proceed all of the bids went out and proceeded according to their guidance.
[31:51] Consistent with the national standards specifically, the national commission and correctional health care, which is what we want to be compliant with.
[31:59] And so again, I really couldn't be happier with it. This isn't something you want to.
[32:03] And fast you want to done well.
[32:05] I agree. I just, I feel like.
[32:10] First, you know, the first priority was to get the building built. I get that.
[32:15] The second priority was to hire staff.
[32:18] And then this is the first I've heard that the contract we have 90 days till we can enact it.
[32:25] Even if we sign it today, we still can enact anything for 90 days.
[32:29] Well, and so it may be that they're available sooner, but they also now have to recruit higher.
[32:36] We have to background check their personnel on that process takes longer than it used to our background requirements are more stringent than what the city has generally.
[32:46] Because of our access to criminal justice information systems through the high-risk tool.
[32:51] And so every contractor, every volunteer, every provider has to go through another layer of background checking that is beyond what the city already does.
[33:02] So it's going to take more time, but that's how we make sure that our inmates stay safe.
[33:06] And Mr. Chair and
[33:10] Just to that point,
[33:12] Director Napp, it isn't a true that the municipal population is one that has a myriad of medical and mental complications.
[33:21] We've seen two deaths already in the New Jackson kind of attention facility.
[33:25] And if we brush this right without the proper medical care and the support system,
[33:30] we could be in the summer.
[33:32] I'm not disagreeing with the rush.
[33:34] I'm arguing that I don't think any of us have had a very good understanding of the process.
[33:40] The communication to us was we build it, we open it.
[33:45] And I mean, I get that there are complications in long term, but I would have liked to know that when the jail was built,
[33:55] you know, then we had staff and then we have to have a contract sign that could be 90 days.
[34:01] Those are just, you know, we're the ones that allocate what this thing together.
[34:07] And we should, that's just me.
[34:10] I just think we should have more information.
[34:12] Councilwoman Robertson.
[34:14] Mr. Chair, thank you for your presentation.
[34:20] And did you say that there isn't a projected comment for opening is that what I heard?
[34:29] Our first benchmark is we believe that we can facilitate the release of our inmates out of this facility by the end of September.
[34:37] September 30th to be able to take that off case of these plate.
[34:40] That's the first operational phase that we're going to be able to accomplish with our anticipated staffing at that point in time.
[34:48] We won't have to have the medical team on site yet to be able to do that.
[34:53] So that's the first, the first operational benchmark for us.
[34:56] And I believe that we'll make that.
[34:59] So that particular benchmark is just transitioning staff or those inmates from Vernon County back to their home.
[35:11] When you say take it off their plate.
[35:13] My understanding is that's just.
[35:16] Transitioning from Vernon County or where Johnson County back to Kansas City.
[35:22] Is that what you're saying?
[35:24] Right currently, it may be released out of Johnson, Vernon County.
[35:28] Our transported to South Patrol in South Patrol has to process them out.
[35:32] We're trying to take South Patrol out of that loop and take that responsibility off case of PD.
[35:37] So that is happening in our own facility where we can better provide for warm handoffs and plan releases and transition to service providers and temporary housing or whatever resource that the inmates have access to.
[35:51] It's going to be so but that's not the primary function of the jail.
[35:55] So my question to you is, do we have a timeline?
[35:59] Did I hear you say that with all the moving pieces, we do not have a timeline in which the jail is open.
[36:06] Is that what I heard?
[36:08] I can't commit to that at this time.
[36:10] No ma'am.
[36:11] Not yet.
[36:12] Okay.
[36:13] So firstly, let me say this.
[36:15] Deputy director case.
[36:17] Hopefully that was a promotion that you received.
[36:21] But whatever the case, we want to say thank you for all of the work that you've done.
[36:27] Up until this point, we know that there was a lot of pressure put on you from many different directions.
[36:35] And I think it's really important for this body to recognize your efforts and to say thank you.
[36:44] Secondarily, in terms of the comments from the chair, we do need a process.
[36:54] So if someone could please, you know, write the process down in terms of where we are.
[37:01] What we're going to do is to get to opening dates.
[37:05] I don't think that there's no excuse for us not to have a benchmark when the detention center is going to be open.
[37:13] That's unacceptable.
[37:14] And I know that you are new.
[37:18] And this is not only you.
[37:19] This is or the city manager.
[37:21] That's our direct report.
[37:25] And there's no, there's no assistance in which we shouldn't have a target date.
[37:31] So I will share that I'm sharing that now with the city manager staff.
[37:37] It's a please work with your team.
[37:39] At least, you know, we have a project to date.
[37:42] And then you can communicate how we're progressing towards that projected date.
[37:48] But again, as governors of this organization, we really really have to have that.
[37:53] Second, then thirdly, you mentioned the national standards as it relates to opening and the emergency.
[38:03] Medical team that we have on that we need to procure, which I don't want to do any of this too quickly, right?
[38:10] We want to be informed.
[38:11] We want to know what's happening.
[38:13] And we want to be able to communicate to the greater systems, particularly KCPD.
[38:19] As to where we are with this project, right?
[38:22] So I'm concerned and it continues to be concerned about the long-term nature of this facility.
[38:31] And that this facility might not be the best option for restorative justice.
[38:36] So my final question is, for you, it's our new director.
[38:41] What are the national standards regarding restorative justice?
[38:45] And does this facility fit those national standards?
[38:50] Thank you, Councilwoman.
[38:53] As I mentioned at the beginning, ACM client has requested a business meeting for September 3rd specific to answering all of your,
[39:01] those questions you just had and addressing that in a comprehensive manner.
[39:05] And I really believe that if we can get the business meeting for September 3rd,
[39:10] I believe that the presentation that you will see that day will answer a lot of questions.
[39:16] I believe that the project is ambitious and progressive.
[39:19] And I think it's going to put Kansas City at the cutting edge of service delivery to this very vulnerable population.
[39:25] So I'm excited.
[39:26] A little goose bumpy.
[39:27] Talk about that.
[39:28] I'm excited for us to be able to present that to you on September 3rd.
[39:32] And I do believe that that will go a long way to answering the questions.
[39:36] And we will have a much more comprehensive update on the temporary facility at that time.
[39:40] So I'm just asking for a little grace today because I do believe that a comprehensive presentation is coming.
[39:46] That you'll find very intriguing.
[39:50] Okay.
[39:51] Thank you.
[39:52] And so give Mr. Chair.
[39:53] And this is not directed to anyone that's presenting it before us today.
[39:58] Not knowing those standards based off of what we know.
[40:02] It's challenging is a very very hard pill to swallow as someone who is elected to serve the interest of taxpayers.
[40:12] And so waiting for September is unfortunate.
[40:16] I ask a basic question as relates to does this facility will this facility meet national standards as it relates to restorative justice.
[40:26] I don't think that that's something we should have to wait for.
[40:30] And I am disappointed in our management staff that we don't have those questions answered.
[40:39] So again, thank you all for your hard work.
[40:43] Two things can be true.
[40:46] And that's you're working very, very hard to do these things as the implement these tasks.
[40:52] And I appreciate that. I recognize that.
[40:55] At the same time we have to have more questions answered.
[40:59] Thank you.
[41:01] Thank you.
[41:03] Council.
[41:05] Council and Robinson, I just want to say that I completely agree with you in the restorative justice aspect of this.
[41:10] And that is an integral part and not something that's negotiable.
[41:14] I will say that I've spent many meetings with director nap and the deputy directors as well as the consultants from.
[41:24] And they are building those pieces out.
[41:29] And I've seen the presentations probably some of the presentation that you'll be seeing on September 3rd.
[41:34] I think I think you will be impressed.
[41:37] And so definitely understand why different that doesn't want to give a half presentation today.
[41:43] But I will say they have been committed to that part.
[41:47] And I hope that you'll know that I'm staying on them on that piece as well.
[41:52] I want to second council and Robinson also.
[41:55] I'm particularly congratulate director deputy director case.
[42:00] She has been an army of one before this.
[42:03] Well, a sailor of one.
[42:05] A sailor of one.
[42:07] So who does to you?
[42:09] This wouldn't be here without you.
[42:11] So absolutely need to be recognized.
[42:15] Well, and I appreciate that.
[42:17] You're a bird talking that at a spending time.
[42:21] I too will love that same opportunity.
[42:24] But all to respect.
[42:27] Councilman Duncan.
[42:29] You represent the six district.
[42:31] You're in district council person.
[42:33] I represent the dark district.
[42:35] I'm an industry council person.
[42:37] The majority of the people that were thought that we're that this population is the dark district.
[42:43] Right.
[42:44] And so if they're giving you we don't run a closed door.
[42:50] Operation.
[42:51] This is a governmental operation.
[42:53] It should be transparent.
[42:55] So if they're presenting information to you.
[42:57] That's great.
[42:58] But we all deserve access to that information.
[43:01] And so those presentations that were had because it could be could be shared this morning.
[43:06] And so I'll follow up.
[43:09] But I do want to register a complaint that.
[43:13] That's information that it should be brought before the entire body.
[43:17] And it shouldn't be just given to one council person.
[43:22] And so that's probably because you requested it.
[43:25] And I'll do the same.
[43:28] But I'll leave it there.
[43:30] Thank you.
[43:31] Thank you.
[43:32] With that.
[43:33] Hey.
[43:34] Thank you guys for giving us that presentation.
[43:36] We appreciate it.
[43:37] We know you're thrown in a lot of directions.
[43:40] So we we do appreciate you coming here and giving us an update.
[43:44] And look forward to this September third update.
[43:47] Thank you.
[43:48] And we would like to thank all of you who've come out to the facility for the tour.
[43:52] Good portion.
[43:53] The council has been out.
[43:54] And we were truly grateful for their time.
[43:56] I think I think they found it very informative.
[43:59] And Councilwoman Robison, welcome you to come out again.
[44:02] Or I'm sorry to come out.
[44:04] And we can be available at your convenience.
[44:06] And I think that would help a lot.
[44:08] Probably if you could see the facility in its current form and speak with our staff directly.
[44:13] Thank you.
[44:14] Yes.
[44:15] And please make sure that all of the consultants that have been meeting are available to have those same meetings.
[44:20] And the same presentations for multi studio.
[44:23] So I'll be reaching out immediately to set that up first thing in my day morning.
[44:27] Thank you.
[44:28] All right.
[44:29] Thank you guys very much.
[44:31] Thank you.
[44:32] Thank you.