[9:26] The agenda and I would like to welcome Dr. Rinkley in person. Thank you for being here today.

[9:33] Let's start by discussing reviewing the agenda items. We do have a healthy work session, not a lot of, actually, I think, the only old business item we're looking to table that person after recommendation.

[9:45] Yes. So unless there's any questions for staff about the agenda, then let me get right into it.

[9:51] Just can I have one. Yeah, it's not a huge deal. I can send item four. We didn't do that one. I'm getting in the weeds here

[10:00] We didn't do the by board like we did the other one just when it gets over half a million. Always look at that

[10:07] Or if it did just didn't say it, maybe I'm misread it. We did go through the by it like

[10:13] Or maybe it's a part that only one person makes. I have no idea. So the two items the number three is a design bill

[10:21] Because the size of the pump, those are not stock or standard, and those that we design in manufacturer.

[10:28] Number four, because it is more stock in terms of a generator, 35 kilowatt, those are a lot more easily produced and have.

[10:36] And those are mass produced.

[10:39] That's all I figure.

[10:40] Thank you.

[10:44] Good question.

[10:48] I mean F1 thrf3 or consent items.

[10:51] You know on F3, the resolution does have both listed in the assignment section.

[10:59] I'm comfortable, we want to wait till we have a full council.

[11:02] I do think we need to take action on a number of them.

[11:06] I'd like this, he just slept a mayor for the time this evening.

[11:11] Probably Katie's seen the sports park task force.

[11:13] I think our pretty important to get those filled.

[11:16] But you guys have any comments or thoughts on that?

[11:21] It's fine as it is,

[11:25] or Shannon Gregg.

[11:26] I'm going to get it. Sorry, I was a comedian.

[11:28] Yeah, I'm going to get it.

[11:29] Okay.

[11:30] And then, so I guess what'll happen then is, if we move forward with this, that's right in the night,

[11:35] then Govers elected to fill place four.

[11:37] We can always get their interests and figure out if there's an opportunity for them to serve,

[11:41] which I think would be great.

[11:42] The fall of us want to be involved.

[11:44] So we can always retouch this up and come to you.

[11:47] So that worked.

[11:49] You have any other questions?

[11:51] All right.

[11:52] We're going to go ahead and we'll break for exactly a session after we do item D1 because

[12:00] Jordan has, as always, willing to share the great news about Keller 250, Keller Lights

[12:08] of that.

[12:08] Jordan, thanks for being here.

[12:10] What's the update?

[12:11] I have an update of presentation for everybody to leave.

[12:23] All right.

[12:24] So this is our new updated logo that a rainy reach will put together for us just for this

[12:29] 50th. This is what's going to be promoted on the hype video and also social media promotion

[12:35] for the event. Schedule. It has remained pretty much the same as before in World City Band

[12:41] to get plugged in and we do have them confirmed seven, three, the nine, thirty. And then since we

[12:46] did bump up the fireworks to a 20 minute show, those are going to start at nine, forty, and so

[12:50] the nine, forty, five this year.

[12:56] This is our confirmed, is our e-drinks on the left, our food

[12:59] on the right and the merchant vendors. So those are going to be more cottage,

[13:04] law vendors, they sell pre-packaged cookies, pre-packaged breads, that sort of thing.

[13:10] We have the police department coming out to help recruit

[13:16] and then promote about

[13:19] the e-bikes on the trails and whatnot with our park board, libraries coming

[13:23] some fun, fun activities.

[13:27] Our sponsors, we did get one additional sponsor

[13:29] for our last meeting and they're still coming in so we expect a couple more to

[13:34] filter in before the event. So these are the confirmed activities. We'll have a

[13:40] patriotic rock painting station. We'll have four face painters, four balloon artists,

[13:44] four character artist, a photo opportunity with a balloon backdrop, a photo

[13:49] opportunity with the color lines logo backdrop, light up foam batons,

[13:54] and then the temporary tattoo station.

[13:57] We are getting a 40 by 100 white tint

[14:00] put in the Westfield.

[14:04] The Southwest fields kind of places to the building

[14:06] where people can't really sit to see the fireworks.

[14:08] So we're putting everything under that tint

[14:10] kind of filter people under there

[14:11] and give them a little shade while they're enjoying the free activities.

[14:15] And we'll have a couple of

[14:17] like swamp cooler AC emissions under there.

[14:20] There's a people can also get under the shade if they need to for some heat relief.

[14:28] And then enhancements that we have confirmed.

[14:30] We have live entertainment by the Emerald City Dan.

[14:33] We have the drone shown coordination with the fireworks.

[14:35] Extended fireworks display.

[14:38] Roaming entertainment.

[14:39] So we'll have one balloon artist.

[14:41] Or sorry, one bubble artist, one airless performer.

[14:44] Like in the bottom right corner.

[14:45] Two jugglers.

[14:46] And the uncle salmon, such a liberty silk walkers.

[14:49] The silk walkers won't necessarily be walking through the crowds.

[15:00] And then just a quick update, the calendar point will have adjusted hours that day of 5 a.m. to 5 p.m. on July 3rd just to help with the traffic in the parking situation at the calendar point.

[15:13] T-shirts. We did order rounded t-shirts to be to sell to the public. They'll be in around June 19th, and then we also ordered some jerseys like everybody had at the sports park ribbon cutting to sell to the public at the event as well.

[15:13] T-shirts. We did order branded T-shirts to be to sell to the public. They'll be in around June 19th. And then we also ordered some jerseys like everybody had at the sports park ribbon cutting to sell to the public at the event as well.

[15:28] If we run out of the jerseys, we're allowing them to pre-order and also do any modifications

[15:28] If we run out of the jerseys, we're allowing them to pre-order and also do any modifications that they want to in order custom jerseys.

[15:34] that they want to in order to test when jerseys is real.

[15:36] That's it.

[15:37] That's it.

[15:38] Yeah.

[15:40] So it's just a...

[15:41] I like that design.

[15:41] All right, that is fine.

[15:43] Yeah.

[15:44] I was raining in Rachel as well, so thanks to them.

[15:44] That was Randy and Rachel as well, so thanks to them.

[15:46] Yeah.

[15:46] Thank you.

[15:47] Yeah.

[15:48] It's a nice, soft shirt, so it's not a heavy cotton, so it's a good look at the shirt.

[15:53] The brand of the shirt is next level, so we stay for a minute.

[15:53] The brand of the shirt is next level, so we say,

[16:00] And that's all I have update why that's color lights in the nutshell. Any questions?

[16:00] And that's all I have of date wise. That's Kelly Lights in the nutshell. Any questions?

[16:06] Lights in the getting a high slide like in the Christmas night.

[16:06] Lights are looking high-slide like in the Christmas night.

[16:10] A lot of eyes to know that.

[16:10] I have a lot of eyes to know that.

[16:12] I like the terms of no pool.

[16:12] I think light that turns into a pool.

[16:14] Yeah, right.

[16:14] I have a lot of eyes to know.

[16:14] Right.

[16:16] I have a lot of eyes to know.

[16:16] Like, right.

[16:16] I have a lot of eyes to know.

[16:16] How many people do you anticipate that much?

[16:17] I have a lot of eyes to know.

[16:18] On average we have 25,000 to 30,000 depending on the weather.

[16:18] On average, we have 25,000 to 30,000.

[16:21] Okay.

[16:21] Depending on the weather.

[16:23] There's not typically a bare spot in any of the fields surrounding town hall.

[16:23] There's not typically a bare spot in any of the fields around me.

[16:26] in town hall, and I thought they could have had it in the kitchen.

[16:27] And so I thought they were so packed.

[16:30] So you can't, I think you know there's quite a lot of things.

[16:30] So you can't, I think you know, there's quite a lot of different kinds of things.

[16:33] So we use data from economic development, they have some programming, and we also do drone footage

[16:34] We use data from economic development, they have some programming, and then we also do

[16:38] drone footage and kind of have a count that way, and we have a couple different sources

[16:38] and kind of have a count that way, and we have a couple different sources that we hired at.

[16:42] that we, we hired at, cell phone data, big brother type, tracks where you go, where you come

[16:45] It's a cell phone data, big brother type.

[16:49] Shax where you go, where you come from.

[16:50] from.

[16:52] Yeah, it is, I don't think it's like, first I don't know, five long, I just think it's like

[16:52] Yeah, I don't think it's like, first I've done a fireball on it, I just think it's like

[16:55] to see the amount of pings up there.

[16:55] see the amount of pins on that.

[16:58] To tell us the young, you have a question to follow up on, Councilman Ranclees.

[16:58] The young.

[16:59] You have a question to follow up on.

[17:02] Councilman Raine Cleves.

[17:03] So if the number of people.

[17:03] So with the number of people, do we have enough stations for the kids stuff?

[17:05] Do we have enough stations for the kids stuff?

[17:09] I think so.

[17:09] There's like four.

[17:09] There's like four, four, everything.

[17:11] Four.

[17:11] Everything.

[17:12] So four.

[17:12] So four, faith painters, we're blue and artists, and four character jars.

[17:13] Face painters.

[17:14] We're blue and artists.

[17:15] Four character jars.

[17:17] And then we're going to have volunteers running the Tibery Tattoo Station, so I think we'll have enough.

[17:17] And then we we're going to have volunteers running the two very tattooed stations.

[17:21] So I think we'll have enough.

[17:22] I don't know.

[17:22] I don't know if every family will be able to get to every single thing.

[17:24] If every family will be able to get to every single thing, they may have to pick a couple things they can go to.

[17:27] They may have to pick a couple things they can go to, but I think that will be enough to help with the lines and keep them going.

[17:30] But I think that will be enough to help with the lines and keep them going.

[17:35] You have food, then you have the younger place, the younger place, and the beer place.

[17:36] You have food, and then you have the younger place, the younger place.

[17:42] And the beer place.

[17:43] Yes.

[17:43] The one on top is actually bringing their trailer here to have on-site to be tap tap beer on tap on-site.

[17:43] The one on top is actually bringing their trailer here to have on-site to be tap tap,

[17:49] beer on tap on-site, and then we have crown catering,

[17:50] and then we have ground catering, bringing their mixology,

[17:52] bringing their mixology, margarita,

[17:53] margarita, mixed drink, truck as well.

[17:55] mixed drink, truck as well.

[17:56] So we'll have a little bit limited alcohol on site, so.

[17:56] We'll have a little bit limited alcohol on-site, so.

[18:01] And then, in all seriousness,

[18:01] And then, in all seriousness, I mean, so I'm asking all the important questions.

[18:03] I mean, so I'm asking all the important questions.

[18:04] and I first of all see council meetings mayor and has a little bit to do the substance right.

[18:05] And I first of all, see council meetings, mayor,

[18:07] and I was looking to see the substance, right?

[18:09] So, phone batons, how many are we ordering?

[18:09] So, from the times, how many are we ordering?

[18:12] Right now, I've ordered 5,000.

[18:12] Right now I've ordered 5,000, I plan on ordering another 5,000.

[18:14] I've played on ordering another 5,000.

[18:16] It's like you've read my mind.

[18:18] I think there needs to be one in three need to have a phone

[18:18] I think it needs to be like 1 in 3 need to have a full full full full full full.

[18:20] Yeah, we're planning on ordering around 10,000 of each, like for necklace bracelet, beads, and...

[18:20] We're planning on ordering around 10,000 of the each, like,

[18:24] for necklace bracelet, beads, and, oh, that's tons.

[18:26] Oh, that's tons.

[18:28] To her pool?

[18:30] Teasher cannon?

[18:30] In the T-shirt cannon?

[18:31] T-shirt cannon?

[18:32] Yes, we have it.

[18:33] We have it.

[18:33] All right. Awesome. Well, hey, this is a large chance to ask your questions. So if you have questions about, you know, your air conditioning issue, you know, those fans, we we're getting those again, we have six of them.

[18:34] Awesome.

[18:35] Well, hey, this is a large chance to ask your questions.

[18:38] So if you have questions about, you know, your air conditioning issue, no, those fans, we're

[18:43] getting those again.

[18:43] We have six of them.

[18:44] Yeah, because it gets so hot.

[18:44] Yeah, because it gets so high. Well, every year I listen to Shannon's fans, I'm just saying the first year we didn't have them and it was brutal and, you know, you know,

[18:46] Well, every year, we're close to the shaman's fans.

[18:48] I'm just saying the first year we didn't have them.

[18:50] and it was brutal and, you know, Ross had to fan the congresswoman, you know, but no, yeah,

[18:57] Yeah, we're having this, but as far as photography vendors, there was a, I'll talk to you later.

[18:57] we're having those.

[18:58] But there, as far as photography and there's, there was a, I'll talk to you later.

[19:02] We did have a year of the price coming, he did our color lights, professional photography and

[19:02] We do have our price coming, he did our color lights, professional photography and videography two years ago, and that's what we use

[19:08] videography two years ago and that's what we use promo videos over the last couple of

[19:10] promo videos over the last couple of years.

[19:12] years.

[19:12] You have to apply the sheet, that text, that's your phone, we did not have that.

[19:12] That's a blind machine that texts it to your phone.

[19:15] Oh, we did not have that, he's just a professional, he's just going to roam around it.

[19:16] He's just a professional.

[19:17] He's just going to roam around it.

[19:18] Oh, a professional.

[19:18] Oh, a professional person.

[19:19] That's right.

[19:20] And drones and videos of the event.

[19:20] And drones and videos of the event, we don't have the photo booth type thing.

[19:22] We don't have the photo booth type thing ordered.

[19:26] They're probably all booked anyway at this point, but no, this is a bunch. I was just asking

[19:27] They're probably all booked anyway at this point.

[19:29] No, this is a bunch.

[19:30] I was just asking.

[19:30] We have the backdrop, and we'll have all interzating stations taking pictures for the families and all that jazz

[19:31] We have the backdrops and we'll have volunteers in station taking pictures for the families

[19:34] and all that jazz.

[19:37] It's good work

[19:37] It's a good word.

[19:38] There's a backdrop going to match like the t-shirts or what's the backdrop for photos?

[19:38] There's a backdrop going to match the t-shirts or what's the backdrop for photos?

[19:42] Randy and Rachel are gonna work that up. It's either gonna be this logo or it's gonna match the t-shirts

[19:42] Right.

[19:42] And Rachel are going to work that up.

[19:44] It's either going to be this logo or it's going to match the t-shirts we have

[19:47] We have decided which would look better on the backdrop

[19:49] on the backdrop, but it'll be one of the two between the top logo or the logo on the back of the shirt.

[19:50] It'll be one of the two between the top logo or the logo on the back of the shirt

[19:56] So it's going to be like a big logo and then kind of have a couple of small logos all around it

[19:57] So it's going to be like a big logo and then kind of have a couple small logos all around it.

[20:03] Good, what is sponsorship like you see you mentioned that you've got still sponsors coming in

[20:03] What does sponsorship look like?

[20:05] So you've mentioned that you've got still sponsors coming in.

[20:07] So what is that process look like yeah, so we have everything from a 500-dollar sponsorship up to $10,000

[20:07] So what does that process look like?

[20:09] Yeah.

[20:09] So we have everything from a 500 dollar sponsorship of just $10,000.

[20:13] The $10,000 is our presenting sponsor and if that spot doesn't get filled whichever sponsor

[20:13] The 10,000 is our presenting sponsor.

[20:15] And if that spot doesn't get filled, which ever spawns there,

[20:19] That's what Charles is sponsoring for right, all right

[20:19] I think that's what Charles is born through before.

[20:21] Right.

[20:23] So, usually our toss onceers, $5,000, and that's usually method is self-lake, so they get

[20:23] So usually our toss spawns are at $5,000,

[20:26] and that's usually method is South Lake.

[20:28] So they get two presenting spawns there.

[20:29] two presenting sponsored.

[20:30] There are toss onceers, but we have a little bit of in between $500,000, $2,500,000, $5,000,

[20:30] There are toss spawns there.

[20:32] But we have a little bit of in between $500,000,

[20:35] $2,500, $5,000 and $10,000.

[20:36] and $10,000.

[20:37] So we have different levels.

[20:40] You get different promotions, different signage,

[20:40] You get different promotions, different signage, different signage, depending on what amount

[20:42] different size signage, depending on what

[20:45] they can do if sponsored.

[20:46] And those dollars were being used to offset the 10,000

[20:46] And in those dollars we're being used to offset the 10,000 Tombatons, is that right?

[20:49] Tom batons.

[20:51] Yes, sir.

[20:52] Okay.

[20:54] Well, they are now.

[20:56] That's a good question.

[20:56] Yes, sir.

[20:57] Good question.

[20:57] Yep.

[20:58] The sponsorship do help offset just the entire event.

[20:58] This sponsorship does help offset just the entire event.

[21:00] And we usually have a really good sponsorship partners for this event.

[21:05] We're always welcome to more about we usually have our collective views that we appreciate

[21:05] We're always welcome to more about we usually have our collective use of we appreciate a beer.

[21:09] of you.

[21:10] Awesome.

[21:10] Yeah.

[21:11] That's great.

[21:11] Very well. Anything else for muscle?

[21:12] Great one.

[21:13] Anything for muscle?

[21:15] Just I will get you parking passes and some swag bags with some goodies whenever

[21:15] just I will get you parking passes and some swag bags with some goodies whenever

[21:20] teachers and everything come in so I'll be getting with Kelly or with y'all

[21:20] t-shirts and everything come in so I'll be getting with Kelly or with y'all to get

[21:24] to get teacher sizes and we'll get y'all up here to get ready to go.

[21:25] t-shirt sizes and we'll get y'all geared up ready to go.

[21:29] Okay what time is it get dark yet? I can paint theory.

[21:29] Okay. What time is it get dark yet? I can date 30.

[21:33] I killed a wife that's usually 9.15.9.30.

[21:33] I killed the lights it's usually 9.15.930 so it's it gets dark right before we

[21:37] So it gets dark right before we should go far.

[21:39] I mean people always ask, why are you making so late?

[21:39] I mean, people always ask why are you making so late?

[21:42] Because we want it dark, we want it to be like that.

[21:43] We want it dark.

[21:44] We want it to be close to us.

[21:45] No, I agree.

[21:46] I don't know.

[21:48] Well, yeah, I think it's awesome.

[21:51] And, you know, it's definitely going to be a step up, maybe another level.

[21:56] But, no, it is great.

[21:56] But no, it is great.

[21:57] I mean, the amount of thought that you've put into it is always tremendously appreciated.

[21:57] I mean, the amount of thought that you put into it is always tremendously

[22:01] appreciated.

[22:02] But, a lot of the finer details are coming together.

[22:02] But a lot of the finer details are coming together.

[22:04] So, just if there's anything you need.

[22:04] So just if there's anything you need, let us know.

[22:07] Let us know.

[22:07] I didn't have one question, and you know, you know, just kind of brainstormed it, I don't know if you have enough date, but it's related to the color lights event.

[22:07] I didn't have one question in a unite kind of brainstormed it.

[22:11] I don't know if you have enough space, but it's related to the Keller Lights event.

[22:16] Anything on the potentially getting businesses involved in?

[22:16] Anything on the potentially getting businesses involved in it?

[22:21] Yes, so we are looking at sending a some form of Google for them to all our businesses and asking them what are some ways that you're going to be participating in highlighting the 250 and or celebrating color lights.

[22:21] Yes, so we are looking at sending a some form of Google forum to all our businesses

[22:29] and asking them, what are some ways that you're going to be participating highlighting the

[22:34] 50 and or celebrating color lights with a July and there are going to have to be some deadlines

[22:37] up with a July and there are going to have to be some deadlines because we want to hear

[22:41] because we want to hear are you having special merch like we know some of them are going to

[22:42] are you having special merch like we know some of them is going to be doing special merch

[22:45] be getting special merch are you going to be having any special specific to that and from the ones

[22:45] are you going to be having any special specific to that and from the ones that we hear back

[22:51] that we hear back we're working on a strategy for highlighting them on social media so that is

[22:51] we're working on a strategy for highlighting them on social media so that is something we're

[22:58] something we're working on right now we don't have any any thoughts so basically the idea is

[22:58] working on right now you don't have any any thoughts. So basically the idea is highlight and spotlight

[23:02] is highlight and spotlight all the businesses

[23:05] all the businesses that are participating. It's celebrating 250th. And so they're displaying

[23:05] that are participating, it's celebrating 250th.

[23:10] And so they're displaying the American flag.

[23:12] the American flag. Are we still thinking about maybe putting up like a electrolytes poster

[23:13] Are we still thinking about maybe putting up

[23:16] like a color-lice poster, or is that,

[23:17] or is that I don't know production deadlines?

[23:18] I don't know, production deadline.

[23:19] Oh yeah, I think that's the best.

[23:19] Yeah, I think that that's the best.

[23:22] I think we're trying to get that out there.

[23:22] We're trying to get that out there. You're almost on top of the events. So I think it'd be

[23:23] You're almost on top of the event.

[23:24] So I think it'd be better to see,

[23:25] better to see what are they already doing. And that would be a little faster on them.

[23:26] what are they already doing?

[23:27] And that would be a little faster.

[23:29] Is that what we're about?

[23:29] Is that what we're asking? That would be available so they could post it on their social

[23:30] That would be available.

[23:31] So they can post it on their social media page?

[23:33] Yeah, or social media.

[23:34] So the idea would be to have kind of like a plug and plug to make it consistent and pretty easy for all both sides where if we design a social media graphic and then they send us what they're going to be doing and we would just that would be the post and then we could make it available to them to also post it on the page.

[23:34] So the idea would be to have kind of like a plug-and-plight

[23:37] to make it consistent and pretty easy

[23:40] for all the slides where if we design a social media graphic

[23:45] and then they send us what they're going to be doing

[23:47] and we would just, that would be the post

[23:49] and then we could make it available

[23:51] to them to also post it on the page.

[23:55] you've worked past the production deadline for praying posters. I just think that's kind of

[23:55] You've worked past the production deadline for printing posters.

[23:58] I just don't think that's kind of what we're out because then you didn't also have to

[24:00] what we're out because then you didn't also have to staff go out there to deliver on my

[24:01] staff go out there to deliver them. I think it's easier just to have a job. The businesses

[24:02] things easier just to have the businesses tell us what they're doing and they'll be able to

[24:04] tell us what they're doing and they'll be able to promote them that way. Yeah. I believe

[24:06] promote them that way. Yeah. Okay. I believe Rachel, a great year also working on getting

[24:10] Rachel, a great year also working on getting killer lights onto the billboard that we have

[24:12] color lights onto the billboard that we have rotating pads up on. I believe going triangle. Yeah,

[24:16] rotating pads up on. I believe going triangle. Yeah. So we're working on a ad to put on that billboard

[24:20] So we're going on to add to put on that build port for color lights to advertise.

[24:23] for killer lights to advertise. Yeah. I mean the work that the rotary club does

[24:25] Yeah, I mean the work that the road group club does, um, to, you know, just while the American

[24:27] to, you know, just follow the American flags up and down our main throw fairs are great.

[24:29] flags, I've been down our main throw fairs are great. I think if we get as much as we can get

[24:31] I think if we get as much as we can get businesses involved, I'm sure that you guys agree.

[24:32] businesses involved, I'm sure that you guys agree. Oh, that's the concept. If anyone in here knows

[24:35] Oh, that's the concept, and if anyone in here knows a lot of businesses by chance,

[24:38] a lot of businesses by chance, um, maybe 100 or more than, you know, any help we'll be greatly

[24:41] maybe 100 or more than, you know, any help we'll be greatly frustrated, talking about you, Jared.

[24:44] frustrated talking about you, Jared. Um, so I'll pick it on you a little bit, but I think it's awesome

[24:46] So I'll pick it on you a little bit, but I think it's awesome.

[24:48] And the more excitement it is, you can build, you know, I think.

[24:49] And the more excitement is, you guys, we can build, you know, I think.

[24:52] Great. Yeah, and I don't know good with it. We will send that survey tomorrow and start cattering

[24:52] You're great.

[24:53] Yeah, and you're good with it.

[24:54] We will send that survey tomorrow and start gathering information.

[24:58] Yeah, what do you guys think

[24:58] Yeah, what do you guys think?

[25:00] Oh, I agree.

[25:01] It's going to get the whole town into it.

[25:03] And then we swallowed him as like a killer 250 business partner, and okay

[25:03] And then we swallow it.

[25:04] I'm just like a Keller 250 business partner and, okay.

[25:10] Awesome. It's like keeping in color to under the fifth get the dish

[25:10] It's awesome.

[25:10] It's like keeping a Keller 250 the addition.

[25:13] Yeah.

[25:14] That's great. Hi video

[25:14] That's great.

[25:16] You know, hi, video.

[25:17] Awesome. All right. Well Jordan and thank you. Absolutely

[25:18] Awesome.

[25:18] All right, well Jordan, Anna, thank you.

[25:20] Absolutely.

[25:22] All right, at this time, we'll go ahead and move into our executive session for the section 551.071 consultation with the attorney.

[25:23] All right, at this time, we'll go ahead and move into our executive session.

[25:26] We're going to section 551.071,

[25:29] conversation with Ternian, it's code meeting,

[25:30] It's closing meeting.

[25:32] government will body may not connect to the conversation with Ternian.

[25:32] Government will body may not conduct a contact with the attorney except for to see the subsection is there.

[25:34] Except for, see, the sub-sections there.

[25:40] Pledge of Allegiance, we should appreciate it.

[25:40] Pledge of Allegiance. We should appreciate it.

[25:55] All right, so before we get started, what pack are you with?

[25:56] All right, so before we get started, what pack are you with? What's your troop number?

[25:59] What's your true number?

[26:00] We have from a true 32.

[26:00] We have from a troop 32.

[26:01] Troop 32. That's awesome. We're so glad that you're here today. Thanks for being

[26:06] willing to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. After you.

[26:43] So why you're up here, I do, what's a special project, what's your, what are you working on right now if you don't mind step up to the microphone so your chance to work on those public speaking skills.

[26:43] So why you're up here, I do what's a special project, what's your, what are you working on right now if you don't mind step up to the microphone so your chance to work on those public speaking skills.

[26:56] We're working on our citizens trip in the community merit patch where we have to attend a city council meeting.

[26:56] We're working on our citizens trip in the community merit batch where we have to attend a city council meeting.

[27:03] That's great. We're almost through it. Anything else you all want to add? May or do you have any questions for that?

[27:03] That's great. We're almost through it. Anything else you all want to add?

[27:09] Mayor, do you have any questions for them?

[27:11] Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no question.

[27:11] No.

[27:12] No, no, no.

[27:13] No, no, no question.

[27:13] This is for a mayor badge.

[27:15] Sorry, that's what you're saying.

[27:15] Sorry, that's what you're saying, which mayor badge?

[27:16] Archangelist.

[27:16] Which mayor badge?

[27:17] Yes, a citizen trip in the community.

[27:17] Citizenship in the community.

[27:20] Mayor?

[27:20] Mayor, this group has a special milestone that they are approaching,

[27:21] This group has a special milestone that they are approaching.

[27:26] that they might want to share about.

[27:26] That they might want to share about.

[27:27] What's the milestone?

[27:29] You're approaching 100 years?

[27:29] You're approaching.

[27:32] One hundred years.

[27:35] Yeah.

[27:35] Yeah, that's amazing.

[27:35] That's amazing.

[27:36] Yeah, my trip has been around for almost 100 years now.

[27:37] My trip has been around for almost 100 years now.

[27:39] Almost 100 years.

[27:39] Almost 100 years, do you know when the date is?

[27:40] you know when the date is or the month.

[27:41] or the month.

[27:44] Next year, that's exciting. Hopefully, you can come back and we can celebrate.

[27:44] Next year, that's exciting. Hopefully you can come back

[27:47] and we can celebrate. Would that be great? All right. Well, thank you for being here today.

[27:49] Would that be great? All right. Well, thank you for being here today. I appreciate it.

[27:53] I appreciate it. Thank you. Let's give him a round of applause.

[27:55] Let's give them a round of applause.

[28:05] All right, Mayor. So,

[28:05] All right, Mayor. So, where are you from? What's your school?

[28:08] where are you from? What's your school? Where do you go to school? The school I go to is

[28:10] Where do you go to school? The school I go to is City Go. City Go.

[28:17] Okay, great but I am going to explain next year. So are you going to be in fifth grade?

[28:19] I'm going to do these brings next year.

[28:21] So are you going to be in fifth grade?

[28:23] Yes. Are you excited? Yes. That means you're going to be a middle school. Are you ready for that mom and dad?

[28:23] Yes.

[28:23] Are you excited?

[28:25] Yes.

[28:26] That means you're going to be a middle school, are you ready for that mom and dad?

[28:28] Of course.

[28:28] Of course. Yeah, so what about your colleague down here?

[28:31] So what about your colleague down here?

[28:34] Is that your brother?

[28:34] Is that your brother? Yes. Okay, I think that's a lot right, Stan. We can have a two brothers on. Okay

[28:35] Yes.

[28:36] Okay.

[28:36] I think that's a lot right.

[28:37] We're going to have two brothers on.

[28:40] So what about you? What grade are you going into? I'm going to seventh grade. seventh grade. Yeah

[28:41] So what about you?

[28:41] What grade are you going into?

[28:43] I'm going to seventh grade.

[28:44] seventh grade.

[28:47] Also a name springs middle school. Also a name springs. And I'm pretty excited for it. Are you you should be it's a great school

[28:47] Also, Indian Springs Middle School.

[28:48] also on an inspirings and I'm pretty excited for it.

[28:52] Are you? You should be. It's a great school. I'm a little biased. My kids go there as well.

[28:54] I'm a little biased my kids go there as well, but I think you're gonna have a great start

[28:56] But I think you're going to have a great start. I do have one more question for you.

[28:58] Um, I do have one more question for you if that's all right. What do you want to see more of in color?

[29:00] If that's all right. What do you want to see more of in color?

[29:04] More in color? Yeah.

[29:05] More in color.

[29:06] Yeah

[29:08] Um, it's all good.

[29:09] It's all good. All of us, I can. He's the mayor. He has to recognize you.

[29:10] All of us I can he's the mayor. He has to recognize you. Go ahead. Do you recognize your brother?

[29:12] Go ahead. Do you recognize your brother?

[29:14] Okay, you can go ahead, sir. What

[29:14] Okay. You can go ahead, sir.

[29:20] What do you want to see more of?

[29:20] do you want to see more of? I want to see maybe I want to see more composting and

[29:21] I want to see a baby, I want to see a more composting in color.

[29:28] Caloo more composting because that's good for that's great. You get to re-use stuff.

[29:28] More composting?

[29:29] Because that's good.

[29:30] That's great.

[29:32] You get to re-use stuff.

[29:35] So yeah, I want to add some composting and Caloo. Excellent. I love it. Thank you Mr. Mayor.

[29:35] Yeah, I want to add some composting in color.

[29:39] Excellent.

[29:40] I love it.

[29:41] Thank you.

[29:42] Mr. Mayor.

[29:43] Me, I'll probably like for less trash, I like less trash, and more recyclable.

[29:43] Me, I'll probably like less trash.

[29:46] I like less trash and more recyclable.

[29:49] Because the cycle, it will reduce the waste that we make, and we can reuse it, and we use it, and we use it.

[29:49] Because recycle, it will reduce the waste that we make, and we can reuse it, and we use it, and we use it.

[29:56] And like, trash, what we just had to dispose it.

[29:56] And like, just what we just had to dispose it.

[29:59] That's what...

[30:00] Well said. That's what I said. Hey, let's give them a round of applause.

[30:08] Mayor Krem, council member, Krem. Thank you so much for being here this evening. Thanks for hopefully at a fun day.

[30:13] Oh, one more question. What was your favorite, police or fire?

[30:17] It was property, the fire.

[30:20] Oh wow. We all worked at your chief fortune.

[30:25] You got to up your next level. We got to take it to the next level.

[30:29] In the same for you, sir? Police or fire?

[30:32] I don't know, I kind of like to both, but if I had to pick one, I didn't pick the police.

[30:38] Okay, there we go. There we go. All right, thank you gentlemen for such a being here.

[30:51] You guys want to take a picture over there.

[30:53] There's a thing up real quick.

[30:56] All right, I want you to, I want you to hold this.

[30:59] Right out here.

[31:01] He sounded like a future mayor.

[31:03] Yeah, he didn't come on here.

[31:09] All right, there we go in here.

[31:10] It's just can we all scooch so we're nice to meet you.

[31:14] Come on.

[31:17] Still more?

[31:18] Oh gosh, here we go.

[31:21] All right, here we go.

[31:21] Oh, this is nice.

[31:24] Okay.

[31:26] One, two, three.

[31:30] Good job.

[31:31] Good job, guys.

[31:32] Good job.

[31:35] Good job.

[31:36] Good job.

[31:37] Good job.

[31:38] Mr. Mayor.

[31:57] It's hot.

[31:59] What we'll do, we're going to recognize

[32:01] is our Keller LaCrosse team and then also to our Boy Scouts if you want to get a picture

[32:08] that would be great as well. We'll recognize Keller LaCrosse and then we'll re-recognize

[32:13] our Boy Scouts, we'll get a team picture and we'll move into persons to be heard. So let's

[32:19] look across, ready?

[32:22] You know what? Let's do Boy Scouts, come on up Boy Scouts, take a big group

[32:26] go to a while we get the cross in here.

[33:58] I gotta tell

[34:16] you, we do have some business on the internet.

[34:19] agenda tonight, but one of the things we'd really like to do in the City of Calors

[34:23] celebrate the success of our young people and the parents and families that support them.

[34:28] So between our mayor and councilmen of the day, our boy scouts, thank y'all again for being here.

[34:34] But for me it's a special honor to recognize our Keller's Boys The Cross team.

[34:41] The example that you have been for our community following your season, how you conducted

[34:48] yourself and every single time you did a social media post with a victory pick, I got a little

[34:54] pumped up. Your track record of success has been historic for our community and we are so

[35:01] proud to recognize you're on all the way to the state championship game. I think if we

[35:06] went to out of three, I think you guys are the state champions, that's what I think. But we're

[35:10] so proud to have you here tonight. We commend you on your excellence, colleagues on City

[35:15] Council, if you'll have anything you want to say, please open it up, but really what we

[35:19] wanted to do is just have a big celebration for you tonight.

[35:22] I think everything that you did during the season is impressive, but these are a lifetime

[35:27] of memories that you should be so proud that you'll always get to keep.

[35:31] You'll remember it when you're old and over the hill like I am in most everyone here on

[35:37] City Council.

[35:37] You're going to look back on these times and be proud not only of your success but also of

[35:42] you can doctor yourself because that shows real character both in victory and defeat and I tell

[35:48] all the teams that I coach you know there's only so many teams exactly two that get to play

[35:53] in a championship game and you fight for the right to be there and see the outcome and for that

[35:59] reason you should be extremely proud of your your efforts you join a lead level level skill on

[36:06] the field and we'd love to have you come up and recognize you what we're going to do is we put

[36:11] together a special PowerPoint presentation.

[36:14] I'm going to present the certificates to your coach.

[36:17] It's coach Anderson, right?

[36:19] Where's coach Anderson at?

[36:21] Hide in the back like a good coach.

[36:23] We're going to present you with certificates.

[36:26] I'll be honest, I think there are 56 of them.

[36:28] So to save all of you all a little bit of time and heartache,

[36:32] we're going to go ahead and present them to you all at once.

[36:34] What I'd like to do is for everyone in the audience,

[36:37] we're going to have your son's name featured up there.

[36:40] We'll rotate to the power point probably every, you know, let's say 10 seconds Kelly. So if you want to picture when your son's name is up there

[36:46] We'll have all y'all come up and then once we take our pictures, I would love to hear from not only your coach

[36:51] But if you have a team captain or two just reflecting on the season what you learned what you're proud of and what the future looks like for Kellogg across

[36:59] We'd love to hear from you

[37:00] So to get us started, let's give him a big

[37:02] Round of applause. Thank you for being here

[37:12] Congrats again on making it to the state championship match and if you wouldn't mind coming forward

[37:16] So we can take a picture, we'd be proud to recognize you.

[38:08] We'll see you in the next one.

[38:09] Where do you want to go?

[38:11] Is there any questions?

[38:13] Is there any questions?

[38:14] I don't see you in the next one.

[38:26] But I don't know.

[38:28] Go on, I'll go on.

[38:34] There we go.

[38:35] Coach, your actuation.

[38:37] Here we go.

[38:45] Do this one.

[38:47] Do this one.

[38:47] We'll have to try with the third one.

[38:49] I'm going tight.

[38:50] Yeah, I've been here for about a year.

[38:52] I've been here for about a year.

[38:53] I'm going to take a picture in a second, y'all.

[39:16] I can share this well,

[39:22] so.

[39:59] Coach, so anything you want to say, and then do you have a team captain or two?

[40:03] Yeah, I'll be super short here.

[40:06] I just want to thank the City Council for having us here.

[40:10] It's an absolute blessing to be a part of this community.

[40:12] I moved here to Texas, it was back in 2021 in bought a house here in Keller and two years ago

[40:20] I took over the Keller Lacrosse high school program and we started out with probably roughly

[40:26] around 30 kids and then the first season we had 57 registered at the high school level graduated

[40:32] 12 or 13 seniors and this year even after graduating that many seniors we had 56 players on

[40:38] roster. So we made to the state championship last year. Unfortunately, we lost, but then

[40:44] even after graduating, nine out of ten starters, we made it again to the state championship,

[40:50] and our hope is that third time's the trend, and we'll make it again next year and win

[40:54] it next year. So we're proud to be part of this community and grateful for all of these players,

[40:59] but also the families who do so much to support all of these young men. So thank you for having

[41:05] here. Maybe Luca, look at you want to say something.

[41:14] Hello everybody, I'm Luca Moia, I'm a junior,

[41:17] I go to Keller High School and I'm a team captain and I just want to thank the Keller community

[41:22] for supporting us through playoffs and everything in the families. You know, it really means a lot to

[41:28] have the support of our community. We, you know, we work really hard this season and it didn't really

[41:33] go the way we plan but we got a lot of guys coming back so we'll bring it home for everybody

[41:39] next year for sure. So thank y

[41:54] 'all.

[41:54] Asher, here you go man.

[41:57] Yeah I'm Asher.

[42:01] I'm a junior as well. I was a team captain and yeah I thought we had a

[42:06] phenomenal season and a lot of the guys are turning this next year and I think like coach said

[42:11] during times of charm, and we'll bring you back next year.

[42:18] Thank you, Guy.

[42:21] Well, you heard it here.

[42:22] Here was it the Liam guarantees, not Joe Nameth anymore.

[42:27] There's a guarantee, right?

[42:28] You're going to be back here next year, bring it home.

[42:30] All right, we'll look forward to seeing you, man.

[42:31] Congrats again.

[42:32] Thank you.

[42:33] Thank you so much.

[42:35] Thank you.

[42:44] Which is the need?

[42:45] Thanks for your attention.

[42:47] All right, hey, the flash on the glass

[42:49] just look my kid's playing it

[42:50] of not just amount of heat sports.

[42:52] I have even a 40-year-old and five-year-old

[42:55] about it's getting recruited for Kelli La Crosse on the girls side so give it up for your parents okay?

[43:47] And that is awesome that we have, you know, in two separate meetings, back to back,

[43:56] Keller Girls across, and Keller Boys across, recognized as a, this is a state finalist.

[44:02] So, excited to have them here.

[44:05] I think we're going to bring it home.

[44:07] They'll diamond.

[44:09] The color of boys baseball team.

[44:10] So hopefully we get them in here and celebrate their

[44:12] State Championship match as well.

[44:15] Excuse me, they're game.

[44:17] All right.

[44:18] Now it's time for persons to be heard.

[44:22] This is a time for the public to address the city council on

[44:25] Any subject.

[44:26] However, the Texas Open Meetings Act prohibits the city council

[44:28] from discussing issues, which the public has not been given

[44:31] day's notice. Issues raised, maybe referred to these staff or research and possible future action.

[44:36] Each speaker will be allowed three minutes to speak. Anyone that wishes to speak can. We do have a

[44:42] couple of cards. First up, let's go with Mr. Lu Selten.

[44:49] Sure, absolutely. Mr. Lu, sorry.

[45:02] It's good to see you, sir. Thank you very much for the opportunity to talk to you to see me. Mr. Mayor, my name is Ed Erry Sury Jr., I live at 1445 Melody Lane, where as a tax paying citizen, I have lived there for the last 35 years or so. Mr. Mayor, I come here this evening with a heavy heart.

[45:26] My concern is for the patriotic soul of our country.

[45:34] I am a decorated combat veteran of the Korean War,

[45:38] where I served three combat deployments,

[45:41] having lost a number of my high school friends there.

[45:46] This came that I use as a momentum of one of those deployments.

[45:51] In the early every morning, my friends and I, some of who are also veterans, enjoy coffee

[45:58] and camaraderie at the summer moon coffee club here in color.

[46:04] One of them, Louis Seldon, also a veteran, usually displays a small flag posted on our small

[46:14] table. The average size of that flag is about no larger than a 3x5 index card. I would

[46:26] like Lewis seldom hear the chambers to stand up and hold that flag in question.

[46:37] You see

[46:37] it's a very small flag. This simple display is going on for a number of years in the past.

[46:45] One morning, last week, at a summer moon manager, Ms. Basel Casper, Greene, sent one of them

[46:52] employees to our table, demanding, take down that flag it has no place here. Without

[47:00] shouting or making any gestures, Mr. Seldon rolled up his manager flag and said to the

[47:07] employee in to us at the table that he would be leaving and he would not come back.

[47:13] Mr. Mayor, I, too, left, as well as some of our friends valing to boycott the summer

[47:20] moon coffee shop until the issue of formal apology on their website, and I've asked

[47:28] me and my veteran friends, and also those within the year shop tonight, to also boycott

[47:35] the same coffee shop.

[47:37] It's an un-American enterprise.

[47:40] Made a manager in the corporation hang their heads at shame.

[47:45] We as combat veterans silently mourn the sacrifice that our brother combatants made as we

[47:52] watch the world's spectacle of perishable riches, fame, glory, and power that they paid

[47:57] so dearly for, and let's say decimate our good earth.

[48:03] Her demand is ludicrous, and is an insult to all American veterans, especially those who

[48:10] gave the ultimate sacrifice.

[48:13] May they all rest in peace.

[48:16] It would be at least some consolation of someone on this council, would look into the matter

[48:23] for the sake of the veterans, bearing this hateful insult.

[48:29] Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for hearing my concern, and may God bless America in spite of ourselves.

[48:37] Yes, sir.

[48:37] Thank you for your service.

[48:38] Thank you for being here.

[48:45] Right.

[48:45] Next up, we have Mr. Aluxel.

[49:04] Good evening, sir.

[49:05] Good evening.

[49:06] This was part of this discussion earlier.

[49:10] That sign was mentioned when it asked me to take it down.

[49:14] So it says, live by the golden rule.

[49:19] So, Louis Salon, 1305, Thursday, Spring, Drive, Keller, Texas, Santa Barbara, Custates.

[49:25] We've been a resident since the summer of 01, and attended the summer moon since it opened.

[49:35] And I know that a lot of people were excited about when it was opening and we enjoyed it.

[49:40] We have spent many hours there with our friends.

[49:44] But I want to talk this time. I've got two cards and I'd like to talk about it.

[49:51] I'd like to call him Yeserri, Mike Ero, Korean War veteran. What he didn't tell you was,

[49:58] he was three combat tours off the coast of Korea, one destroyers in destroyer escorts.

[50:04] He volunteered to go ashore and raiding parties with rock troops for public of Korea,

[50:10] Military Army Marines, whatever, some of the hardest fighting ground troops in the world.

[50:17] I'd put them up against the French Foreign Legion.

[50:20] And he went on night rating parties, approximately 13 times carrying a 21 pound B.A.R.

[50:26] Browning automatic rifle, which I've never understood in night rating parties.

[50:30] I would have thought they equipped him with a six pound carbine, short range, but a very effective weapon.

[50:37] But he looked at it around with 10 magazines of ammunition and 10 hand grenades.

[50:45] It's probably doubled his weight.

[50:47] When he got out of the Navy, he tried to apply to the Navy Academy and turned out because

[50:53] he was too short, but he went too short to enlist.

[50:56] Anyway, he gets out of the Navy, he gets the engineering degrees involved with this space

[51:01] program and developing the atomic clock, which is very accurate time and very important

[51:09] navigation, which I've done a lot of, had done a flight navigation. It's very important

[51:16] to time be accurate.

[51:21] And you need to read his bio, but after he retired, volunteered to be

[51:30] He a minister in the prisons, and he drove an O-Dark 30 in the morning to break and reach many

[51:39] hours, many times, you know, in danger himself, and had some rewarding experiences doing

[51:47] that.

[51:49] I have considered Ed my hero, and I'd like to ask you to consider making a color day for

[51:59] It's not a red, yes, a red.

[52:03] Oh, leave that with you.

[52:06] I'm gonna move on with the mitts here.

[52:09] So one, maybe move on to my other card.

[52:15] Yeah, so, you know, wanna make sure you get to finish your remarks.

[52:19] So each speaker has three minutes,

[52:20] but if you have a little bit more, that's all right.

[52:23] That's all the two cards up here.

[52:26] But so if you have a few more comments, that's fine.

[52:28] Okay, well, I just, you know, I can't.

[52:31] I can't talk too much about that, you know, I mean, just imagine one thing we learned in a military was, you know, you don't volunteer normally.

[52:42] And you're sitting off shore on a ship fairly safe, you know, taking some fire from the shore, but the volunteer and going like rating parties is unbelievable.

[52:55] And he did, and he asked him about approximately 13 missions at night with the rock

[53:02] troops.

[53:02] I think he had eight Navy and 22 rocks and they go ashore and he, so at the time he catching

[53:08] for a couple of coffee, they get him to chat with you about his experience, but he went

[53:12] on to become an engineer and he's a very smart man, so I mean I just hope you will seriously

[53:21] consider making one day of the year, Ed, yesterday day in Keller. He's been a resident, I say again 35 years.

[53:30] Thank you, sir. And also, as I'm informed, from remembering correctly, I think it pretty talented,

[53:36] artist. I'm sorry.

[53:40] He's a pretty talented artist, as well, doesn't he paint rocks?

[53:44] Yeah, he is. That's like a sculpture at a rock. I may or may not have one sitting in my house.

[53:51] This is great human being, and we appreciate both of you being here, and thank you for your service.

[53:56] Thank you.

[53:57] Thank you very much.

[53:59] So, I would like to move on to my second card.

[54:06] Yeah, let's allow two minutes for this one, Kelly.

[54:09] Pardon me?

[54:10] Two minutes if that's all right.

[54:12] Is that enough time for you?

[54:13] We'll see.

[54:14] All right.

[54:15] First of all, I like to say that I said a letter and at the email to the Mayor's list, which includes all the council and a city manager and some other people I guess.

[54:27] I was disappointed to only receive a response back from the Mayor.

[54:30] Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate you replying back to me on what the situation we're talking about.

[54:37] But I think what you need to know is it's more to the story.

[54:40] as Paul Harvey used to say, page two.

[54:44] On Sunday the week before,

[54:45] Poohan, my friend sitting here was with me

[54:47] after we attended a rally at some room sitting outside,

[54:52] at the table by the flower box.

[54:57] In the flower box, we had my flag in the side.

[55:00] It was sitting here, this woman comes approaches us

[55:04] with anger in her eyes in a sheet.

[55:09] I said, you know, what's matters?

[55:11] He said, you're a bigot.

[55:12] I said, what kind of a bigot am I?

[55:14] He said, you're a bigot against women.

[55:17] I said, no.

[55:19] In a meantime, a young couple walking into some room with a young child,

[55:24] approached us and said, we just saw it went on here.

[55:28] And see follow-up from church, plinking your lights,

[55:32] add us in board of the morning.

[55:34] In a meantime, she rants on and calls a police.

[55:38] to please officers showed up and investigated in the tournament.

[55:46] I was innocent of any wrongdoing.

[55:50] But I'm convinced in myself that she wrote the communicated with the corporate headquarters.

[55:57] And that's the reason that this thing came down about my son.

[56:05] So, I'm just disappointed,

[56:13] so I guess that's really about what I got to say, and I got five

[56:15] seconds to go Mr. Mayor, four seconds, three, two, one.

[56:19] Well, you used every second well, and we appreciate you being here tonight.

[56:24] I would encourage you, I think our economic development directors is probably still here.

[56:28] Her name's Anna Irwin, we can't get into much of a back and forth, but I did respond to

[56:34] email and one of the things I'm guessing from my colleagues too is Anna was really on the spot,

[56:40] followed up with the business you're referring to and then reported back to us as a city council.

[56:45] So if you wouldn't mind visiting with Anna, she'll probably meet you towards the back of the meeting room

[56:51] there and she can kind of help work through concerns that you have potentially.

[56:57] So we got Sarah here.

[56:59] Sarah is also aware of that department, so if you wouldn't mind meeting with them,

[57:04] she would appreciate it.

[57:05] Thank you.

[57:06] Good night.

[57:06] God bless America.

[57:08] Thank you, sir.

[57:20] Sure?

[57:20] I was a running back at the University of Mexico by the football.

[57:24] I never ran for a touchdown.

[57:27] There you go.

[57:29] Well said.

[57:36] Well, next up, if there's anyone else in the audience that would like to speak or welcome to,

[57:40] but we do have Ashley Hernandez.

[57:43] Ashley?

[57:53] Thanks for being here.

[57:55] Thanks for having me.

[58:00] Thank you.

[58:03] Good evening, Mayor and members of Council.

[58:05] My name is Ashley Hernandez

[58:06] and I'm a resident of Keller and local business owner.

[58:10] Tonight I'm here to speak about transparency, governance, and public trust,

[58:14] specifically as it relates to appointments

[58:15] to some of our city's most influential boards and commissions.

[58:19] The planning and zoning commission holds significant influence over Keller's future.

[58:23] It impacts land use, development, zoning, and the overall footprint of our community.

[58:27] Because these positions are pointed rather than elected, residents rely on this council to serve as an independent and objective filter when making those appointments.

[58:38] I say this is someone who also serves in an appointed capacity with the City of Keller.

[58:43] Appointed positions require a higher level of transparency because residents are trusting council to choose people who can serve the broader community fairly and independently.

[58:53] That responsibility matters.

[58:55] Public records now raise legitimate concerns about overlapping relationships between elected

[59:00] officials, appointed board members, campaign finance activity, and private interests connected

[59:05] to local, real estate, and property management.

[59:07] According to city, appointment records November 19, 2024, Greg Willis present when the council

[59:13] unanimously appointed Deborah Johnson to the Planning and Zoning Commission as well as Erick

[59:18] A. According to campaign finance violence, Councilman Will, Planning and Zoning Commissioner

[59:23] Deborah Johnson, and Planning and Zoning Commissioner Eric Lies, are all listed in

[59:29] connection with funding or managing a local political action committee tied to conservative

[59:33] voter guide.

[59:35] Ms. Johnson is listed as treasurer.

[59:38] Those same filings also show financial involvement in two local residents that are involved

[59:43] in real estate, one of which is a local real estate broker, investor, and property manager

[59:48] whose business interests may be affected by city policies related to land use, development,

[59:54] rental property, zoning, and local regulation.

[59:57] To be clear, I am not standing.

[1:00:00] Standing here tonight to accuse anyone of legal violation. This is not my role. What I am saying is that it creates a serious appearance of conflict of interest.

[1:00:11] When an elected council member votes on appointment to planning and zoning, while also being financially connected through political activity, with appointed commissioners and individuals connected to local, real estate interests, residents deserve clarity.

[1:00:22] The issue is not only whether something technically violates a statute, the issues whether the public can clearly trust that city appointments and land use decisions are being made independently, transparently, and in the best interest of color residents as a whole.

[1:00:37] Keller residences of confidence that appointments are not influenced by political alliances,

[1:00:43] campaign activity, private donor networks, or relationships that may create perceived

[1:00:47] conflicts of interest.

[1:00:49] So tonight, I respectfully ask this council to review these overlapping relationships and consider

[1:00:55] whether stronger transparency standards are needed for appointed board and commission members,

[1:01:00] especially those serving on planning and zoning.

[1:01:01] At minimum, residents deserve disclosure when individuals involved in appointments, campaign finance

[1:01:07] activity, political committees, and regulated local business interests are connected to one another.

[1:01:14] Transparency protects the public.

[1:01:16] It also protects the integrity of this council.

[1:01:19] Our appointed boards and the residents who are trusting this process.

[1:01:23] I understand that council may not be able to respond tonight during public comments.

[1:01:26] My request is simply that this concern will be reviewed and placed on a future agenda for discussion regarding disclosure standards for appointed boards and committees.

[1:01:35] Thank you so much for your time.

[1:01:37] Thank you for being here.

[1:01:38] Actually, I'm out of the briefly state.

[1:01:40] I am not aware of anything unethical that's happened.

[1:01:43] In a lot of these records are public records.

[1:01:46] It's for anyone listening in the audience.

[1:01:48] So anyone that has questions, our city's secretary, Kelly Ballard,

[1:01:50] can sit down and walk you through kind of the typical reporting procedures and you know

[1:01:56] there's campaign finance, campaign ethics or anything like that.

[1:02:00] So if you have questions about that you can obviously always happen to meet or our city

[1:02:05] secretary can help as well.

[1:02:06] Thank you for being here.

[1:02:07] Thank you.

[1:02:09] All right.

[1:02:10] Anyone else?

[1:02:14] Okay.

[1:02:15] Well, that's persons to be heard.

[1:02:17] Next up we'll have consent.

[1:02:20] F1, consider approval of the minutes of the Tuesday, May 19th, 206, regular city council meeting.

[1:02:26] F2, consider approval of the minutes of the Friday, May 22nd, 206, special city council meeting.

[1:02:31] F3, consider a solution, appointing city council members to serve on various boards and committees and appoint a mayor pro-tem.

[1:02:38] F4, consider a solution awarding a contract, a Prater Electric, a RALOT Texas for the Pearson pump station,

[1:02:42] the VFThe Replacement Project for the Public Works Department and Authorizing the City Manager

[1:02:47] to execute all documents relating there to on behalf of the City of Keller, F5, consider our

[1:02:51] resolution approving the purchase of one replacement emergency diesel generator and installation

[1:02:56] services for the Marshall Branch West, wastewater lift station from Akisha Pierce Industries,

[1:03:03] a few cents excess through the Byboard Purchasing Cooperative and Authorizing the City Manager

[1:03:07] to execute all contract documents on behalf of the City of Keller of Texas, and then I do

[1:03:12] have one request for item F3. Probably, well, all these are significant, but does anyone have

[1:03:20] a nomination for mayor pro time since that's he's been vacated?

[1:03:27] Councilwoman Brennan.

[1:03:29] Yeah, I'd like to nominate Councilmember Shannon Doughberley.

[1:03:33] And I second. All right. We have a motion in a second. I'll just briefly stay. I'm fully

[1:03:39] support of that. Honestly, you know, Shannon and I have become friends over the years, but

[1:03:44] more important than that than that as a colleague, you know, you look at two things that really

[1:03:49] matter. Innovative ideas, you can always count on Council Member Dobberly to bring an innovative

[1:03:54] idea whether you like it or not. And number two, he's always here, actually credit Mr. and

[1:04:00] as she published reports on attendance records and he had I think a hundred percent attendance rate.

[1:04:07] So, I'd be proud to vote for Shannon as mayor-protem and the other nominations.

[1:04:14] No, you're looking pretty good for this, sir.

[1:04:18] All right.

[1:04:19] Would you mind reading through Kelly the list of the other board and the other appointments for the Bores and Committees?

[1:04:26] Sure.

[1:04:27] For Keller Economic Development Board, Mayor Ross McMillan is the chair.

[1:04:31] Keller Development Corporation will be Mayor Ross McMillan is the chair.

[1:04:35] Council Member Chris Watley, Mayor Pro-Temption and Deberly, and Council Member Charles Rand

[1:04:41] Cleve.

[1:04:42] The Finance Committee, Mayor Roshmick Mullen, Mayor Pro-Temption and Deberly, Council Member

[1:04:46] Karen Brennan.

[1:04:48] The Citywide Solid Waste and Recycling Committee, Council Member Karen Brennan, and Council

[1:04:53] Member Chris Watley.

[1:04:55] The Crime Control and Prevention District Board liaison is Council Member Greg Will.

[1:05:00] The Metro Port Teen Quart Advisory Board will be Councilmember Greg Will.

[1:05:06] The North Central Texas Council of Governments, General Representative will be Mayor

[1:05:11] Pro Tempchen and Deberly.

[1:05:13] The Keller Colleville Municipal Court Committee, Mayor Ross McMillan, Mayor Pro Tempchen

[1:05:18] and Deberly and Councilmember Greg Will.

[1:05:21] The Adhok personnel compensation committee will be Councilmember Greg Will and Councilmember

[1:05:26] Chris Wattley, and then the Keller Sports Park Task Force Mayor Ross McMillan, Mayor

[1:05:34] Proton, Shannon Deberley, and Council Member Charles Rand pleaf.

[1:05:40] Thanks, Kelly.

[1:05:42] Obviously, we have a runoff election going on right now.

[1:05:44] We believe it's a council.

[1:05:46] It's important to get these seats filled because there's day-to-day things that have to

[1:05:49] be attended to.

[1:05:50] But whenever that election is decided, I think the early voting is going on, it's going

[1:05:54] through the ninth I believe in an election day is June 13th. So make sure you get out and vote.

[1:06:01] We want everyone voting. But once that's filled, you know, if our new colleague has

[1:06:05] particular interest, we'll certainly talk to him about that. So just want to make that point.

[1:06:11] With that being said, we do have a motion council member Brennan.

[1:06:20] You did make a motion, but it was only for Shannon. Do you want to scrub the other rest of the list, or

[1:06:26] Yeah, I motion to approve the consent agenda.

[1:06:29] Is that what I'm making?

[1:06:30] Yes.

[1:06:31] So a motion to approve consent items F1 through F5 and Council Member Will.

[1:06:38] All right.

[1:06:38] We have a motion to second.

[1:06:39] Let's vote.

[1:06:51] All right.

[1:06:52] That passes unanimously.

[1:06:53] Five zero.

[1:06:55] Shannon, congratulations.

[1:06:56] Any comments?

[1:06:58] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:07:00] Say it's an honor.

[1:07:02] It means a lot to me just for my fellow colleagues.

[1:07:04] and trust me with this responsibility, take it seriously, but thank you a lot.

[1:07:10] Yeah, well, thanks for being willing to serve.

[1:07:12] I'll be honest, I was a little bit nervous going to family vacation, because I travel out of state and I realize we don't have a mayor pro time.

[1:07:17] So having for bed, I couldn't get back.

[1:07:19] You know, we were going to be in the state of chaos.

[1:07:21] So thanks for stopping up for that role, sir. We'll look forward to it.

[1:07:24] All right, we only have one old business item, and G1, and my understanding here, and is that that we're looking to table that?

[1:07:32] We

[1:07:36] still have a proxy numbers if we table it to the first meeting in July, they'll have the final numbers for us and we can be done with the conversation.

[1:07:44] Is that July 7th?

[1:07:46] 7th.

[1:07:48] So, give a motion from Council Member Will.

[1:07:53] I still move.

[1:07:54] Okay.

[1:07:55] Motion to table until July 7th.

[1:07:58] For G1.

[1:07:59] We have a second from Mayor Pro Tem.

[1:08:02] Yes, Mr. Mayor, I second that we table until July 7th.

[1:08:06] All right, motion is second, let's vote.

[1:08:15] It's table.

[1:08:17] So with that, we'll convene the regular business meeting and we'll go to work session.

[1:08:25] Also, Culver and Insurance Agency L.C. at 423 to the Parkley Unit B, 10 feet tall

[1:08:31] day of study L.C. at 11.03 a.m. at Parkway and New Classical Art School at E825 to

[1:08:38] date of school of Art at 15.15. So that's for April. From May, we had nine UCOs. So energy-related

[1:08:48] services corporation. It's office type business at 9.50 North Me Street, sweet 203. The

[1:08:56] champs Porter's spa. It's like a nail salon barber shop at 7.61 KL Parkway, sweet 155. I am going

[1:09:04] to miss for now's this name. They use hardened photography. Believe that's a relocation from

[1:09:10] South Lake at 4.60 KL Parkway, sweet sea fresh monkey smoothie shop. Hopefully you guys tried the

[1:09:16] people. Go support them. They just opened yesterday at 222, Rousse no drive, sweet 150,

[1:09:25] mice, male colored dentistry, PLLC, that's 76 color Parkway, sweet A&B, Bradley's

[1:09:33] Countdown, Countdown, Customs, it's awful. It's 123 KD row, that's auto repair.

[1:09:39] Elements massage, they had gone through their SEP and this is their official CO-1411 killer.

[1:09:48] Parkway is 2700, the enforcement LLC, CO-432 North Main Street, it's a new civil instrument repair store.

[1:09:59] And then last but not least, JZD Collective at 116 Taylor Street.

[1:10:04] So that's all I knew C.O. is the last two lines.

[1:10:07] That's pretty healthy amount, even with it being a two-month report.

[1:10:12] Individually, this is a live and live.

[1:10:15] Okay, so Fresh Maki is where the old,

[1:10:19] it's by the Nestle, where it was at, right?

[1:10:20] Is it the same location?

[1:10:21] It did not shop in the center, yes.

[1:10:23] And they just opened yesterday.

[1:10:25] A lot of healthy protein shakes.

[1:10:28] Also treats, you can make it as healthy or, you know, as you like.

[1:10:32] Yeah, it has lots with Nutella, which I'm excited about, so you definitely go to a lot of it.

[1:10:39] Some of our protein shakes are with Nutella, so you can get healthy and happy.

[1:10:43] My kids are family.

[1:10:45] Yes, you're not.

[1:10:48] Okay.

[1:10:49] And then we've had 48 videos that this year through the end of May.

[1:10:54] Building permits currently under review or in process.

[1:10:57] Orban Games, like 800 South Main Street, even at 240, we are awaiting revisions from them.

[1:11:03] And it's exactly what it sounds like. It's like a game shop, they sell cards and all the fun game or type stuff.

[1:11:12] So we'll let you know when they're ready for their CEO.

[1:11:16] It's at over 800 South Main Street, so over like where did he go?

[1:11:20] And that retail center is cool.

[1:11:22] The Keller House Collective, we are still awaiting revisions from them, so no update,

[1:11:30] Macauster's Deli, if sure you guys have driven by it, getting clothes at 12, we want

[1:11:35] a killer parkway, Frost Bank as well, at 12, 31 color parkway, their permit was issued

[1:11:41] me six, and then hops restaurant at 200 color parkway, their permit was issued in May 21st.

[1:11:48] It's a lot of exciting stuff for incentivized projects city sports. We had their pre-convening last

[1:11:55] This was me last month last month and they are anticipating a June ground breaking

[1:12:01] So we'll make sure that you're all invited like you know when that's great happens

[1:12:07] Yeah, yeah

[1:12:10] Yeah, they're really open to the open

[1:12:15] late spring of next year because they definitely want to capitalize on the summer

[1:12:20] camps and summer activities. Okay, Bruce. Yeah, pending weather. Okay, and then

[1:12:27] flexed. They shared that they have three LOS that have been accepted. They can't

[1:12:34] share who they are yet, but they said we're going to be very pleased with what they are.

[1:12:38] construction is moving us plan they hope to have a shelf finished by the end of the year

[1:12:45] also pending weather and an improvements we made by Q1 this is all ideal best

[1:12:51] listener and then they they hope to have tenants moved in by Q2 of 27

[1:12:58] from Brazil this is exciting stuff when they tell us who these LIs are we will

[1:13:07] Okay, I already talked to you about the keep it in color and America's 250th University edition, so let's get that.

[1:13:15] A quick recap, our department had is...

[1:13:18] We'll look up on that. There was one question.

[1:13:20] I'll brought up was about...

[1:13:23] was it...

[1:13:24] Dr. Akely, was that you that had a question about the business partnership?

[1:13:29] So, good.

[1:13:30] Generating sponsorships.

[1:13:32] Yes, so in the region, the business is also making the ask in terms of whether or not they would be interested in being a sponsor.

[1:13:40] Oh, for a killer light?

[1:13:43] Well, I'd probably have to check with Jordan to see what her process is, and if...

[1:13:48] We can certainly make them aware of sponsorship opportunities across the board, because you have to not just...

[1:13:53] Sure.

[1:13:53] The lights are also known as a ward, and there's other events going on, so it's probably

[1:13:58] been time to have that conversation with General of like, hey, by the way, you've never

[1:14:02] interested in sponsoring a city that you're your opportunity to use.

[1:14:05] Since we're going 30 minutes of lights next year, it probably gives you a good idea of what

[1:14:08] we're going to do.

[1:14:10] Thank you.

[1:14:11] That's what I get now.

[1:14:12] You always take the next time.

[1:14:13] I see what I know.

[1:14:14] I see what I know.

[1:14:15] I see what I know.

[1:14:15] That's a good question.

[1:14:18] It could be something like a Google forum, I mean, obviously you're going to have a more

[1:14:22] success of you, you know, ask them, goodbye.

[1:14:25] Want to get me, you know, if you are like check, yes, no, are you interested in

[1:14:29] learning more about sponsorships for events such as killer lights, all the

[1:14:33] things. So we'll do that. And then if they do, then we will reach out directly

[1:14:37] and connect them with. Okay, great. Okay, so we are department

[1:14:44] had our annual small business week promotion. We moved it from a physical

[1:14:48] We'll stop at your heart, to a digital mind, to try to build momentum for the businesses

[1:14:53] and get more likes, more follows, and we had 19 small businesses to participate.

[1:15:01] The campaign and current social media users to interact with keeping a color and the business and social media accounts.

[1:15:08] And we really focus on increasing visibility for local businesses and helping connect them to a broader broader audience because we do have so many followers outside of color.

[1:15:18] The campaign results included over 22,000 social media views in a reach of a little over 12,000 people.

[1:15:27] People are looking at our Facebook, which is exciting.

[1:15:32] Okay, and then open rewards.

[1:15:34] It feels like it was forever ago that we wrapped this up.

[1:15:37] But just enough to look at the top 20 businesses overall of how it ended.

[1:15:44] And very few were local businesses that were in the top 20 of another transactions.

[1:15:52] So kind of to come back to our conversation about big box with, you know,

[1:15:59] who would get the most redemptions.

[1:16:02] You know, it's Crowger, Wal-Mart, Sam's Glove, Tumfam, Lowe's, Chick-fil-A, Home Depot,

[1:16:06] So jobless in the top 10 in the top 20 as far as local businesses, Divida is the school

[1:16:13] is strong, and everything else is basically national change.

[1:16:19] So big boxes for the most, but we expected that.

[1:16:23] We did.

[1:16:25] Yeah, and I think the follow-up will be, once we can get the true data from the controller's

[1:16:32] office for the year or year growth of sales tax, then we'll be able to really

[1:16:36] compare if it move the needle at least in that regard, but maybe people still, you know,

[1:16:43] everybody's gonna go by groceries and, you know. So in a few months I'll be able to see if

[1:16:48] there was a bomb that we can maybe attribute to open rewards for sales checks specifically.

[1:16:55] Well, Mayor Brooks, I think this is where you're getting at the automatic taxpayer refund that we

[1:16:59] work for 2020 too. I think we finally saw the semi-automatic taxpayer refund come through.

[1:17:06] So congratulations.

[1:17:08] Okay.

[1:17:08] That is all.

[1:17:09] Do you have any questions for me?

[1:17:12] Thank you.

[1:17:12] I will say the app was a little bit better.

[1:17:16] You know, I might be guilty of shopping at some of the institutions that you...

[1:17:20] Yeah.

[1:17:21] Anthony, we love them too.

[1:17:22] Just...

[1:17:23] Yeah.

[1:17:23] Part of it though is that it was a little bit...

[1:17:24] It was a little bit clunky.

[1:17:26] Like on a technical side.

[1:17:29] But so if we do it again, you know,

[1:17:31] I think I would just push them to get a little more efficient.

[1:17:34] We have some ideas, more to come, of maybe how to do it ourselves, but we're good.

[1:17:42] We'll see those in first drop.

[1:17:43] We're giving stages.

[1:17:45] I'll give you ideas.

[1:17:46] Thank you.

[1:17:47] Thanks.

[1:17:48] All right.

[1:17:48] So we're working in for the reverse order.

[1:17:51] We'll end up for our four capital and project update.

[1:17:55] Which means the budget you have to reverse into your envelope.

[1:17:58] Oh, boy.

[1:17:58] I'm sure.

[1:18:00] I'll do that.

[1:18:02] We'll be referencing the document that I sent out a week's bill if you don't have that.

[1:18:12] I'm getting the same thing that I'm handing out now.

[1:18:21] Here we go.

[1:18:21] This is a couple of weeks old, so I'll attempt to update as much as I can with the information

[1:18:26] just a reminder on the Mount Viliad design, the reconstruction from 377 to

[1:18:33] Borland. We are working and approaching 100% completion on that design. We expect to

[1:18:40] have that complete by the end of the month. I advertise this summer and we still

[1:18:44] expect to have this awarded another way before the end of the year. Elm Street continues

[1:18:50] to progress. It's about a quarter of the way through in terms of which you can see on

[1:18:55] street, excuse me. But we are about halfway through in terms of the three years that we

[1:19:03] started down. So just a reminder, we expect the end of 27th is to, because when this will be

[1:19:12] substantially complete, but we're no longer headlong into that. Speaking about Gilliac,

[1:19:19] going back to that, there's the waterline has been replaced. You know, you may have received an email

[1:19:24] earlier today asking about its status, the bottom line is last week. It was pressure tested

[1:19:31] to make sure that there were no leaks that it was connected correctly that hold the scenes work.

[1:19:37] This week is a chlorination and bacterial testing, and that will take two days of stagnant water

[1:19:45] of nothing happening. And that's the flag that I think that some residents have seen. It's a beautiful

[1:19:51] day, how come there's no work happening? That's because we're in the middle of testing.

[1:19:55] We expect that all conclude by the end of this week. We don't expect any failures, but

[1:20:01] we gotta make sure that everything is clean inside. Once we do that, because it's super

[1:20:06] chlorinated, we'll then declorinate that, empty it out and refill it and start to connect

[1:20:10] to individual service lines. That will begin next week and depending on whether that may

[1:20:19] take 1-2 weeks and then we'll start the rein restoration.

[1:20:22] The restoration will be a complete replacement of the road,

[1:20:26] not just the part that was torn up,

[1:20:28] so that it's a monolithic overlay that we're done.

[1:20:34] You may have also received another email

[1:20:36] from a couple of residents regarding concern

[1:20:39] about the recent work done on Treehouse Lane.

[1:20:42] I've responded back, asked for more information and details.

[1:20:47] I had no way to respond to it.

[1:20:49] I would ask them if that person, or if anybody else is listening online or live, that we have a system portal, that you have any concerns,

[1:21:01] put them in there, let's let add photos, add videos, whatever is appropriate, and that makes it a lot easier for us to know what we're trying to address.

[1:21:11] Hey, or all of the water work and all of the connections have been completed.

[1:21:18] We are going to be staging of the equipment started at the end of the last week.

[1:21:22] We anticipate that mobilization of the work actually started again this week by the end

[1:21:28] of the week.

[1:21:29] For sure, next week, we've been on the weather how the rest of the week goes.

[1:21:34] That will also be a complete overlay, we're not just going to re-cover what was dug up

[1:21:40] We're pull up everything and resurface the entire of the world.

[1:21:44] Sidewalks continue.

[1:21:45] We're going to start next week in the northern part of town

[1:21:49] by the Junior High, leaving coordinating letters

[1:21:52] when out last week.

[1:21:53] We'll be coordinating with all of the residents, again,

[1:21:56] to make sure they know the what's coming in.

[1:21:58] Tell them that it's full.

[1:21:59] Killer middle school.

[1:22:00] I'm sorry, I said you're right.

[1:22:02] Yeah, yeah, I'm aging myself.

[1:22:04] My family is just your ideal.

[1:22:07] Yeah.

[1:22:08] Yeah.

[1:22:08] In the middle school.

[1:22:09] And then we are also going to reach out to the neighborhood in the south, the saddle,

[1:22:19] rodeo, painted horse, pony, that area.

[1:22:23] They are across the street from the color, advanced learning center, and the junior high school.

[1:22:38] So that's the next area, but we want to reach out to them and do our due diligence before we start to design and laid all out is reach out to the neighborhood.

[1:22:46] Are there any things that we need to be aware of that?

[1:22:49] You know, we don't see as we walk back, we don't live there, we're walking all the time.

[1:22:53] In the end, we're trying to make the best decision of which side of the road to go on without causing a firestorm.

[1:23:01] Yeah.

[1:23:02] How do we communicate that?

[1:23:04] Well, we're to start out with a letter and a point of contact for those to contact us.

[1:23:11] There are special considerations that they have on their side of the road or things that we're not aware of.

[1:23:15] Who's like the point of contact is in general public works.

[1:23:18] I know we have a project manager.

[1:23:20] His name is Michael Fletcher.

[1:23:21] He's one of our engineers, which will be fielding all of that.

[1:23:23] Yeah, because I just bought one of those letters for on court and I said, hey, just let me know you're going to be five and 15 minutes later, they showed up to have to talk about the truth, so don't do that.

[1:23:34] No, we're going to have a lot more late times than I think that.

[1:23:38] Davis mediums is not a city project in a state project, but they're about 85% of the way through.

[1:23:45] The last thing that there looks like they're addressing is that the bandit trail intersection.

[1:23:50] But that seems to be moving along just fine.

[1:23:55] Those are the highlights of when it's changed from what was given out last week,

[1:24:00] where the throws of budget.

[1:24:02] There's a lot of items on here, a lot of identified needs and some estimated costs.

[1:24:09] That will be part of our discussions to go forward in part of the presentation tonight.

[1:24:14] And also we part of, you know, how do we sell priorities and that'll be what we need

[1:24:19] to do guys to help with this, and then we can't do it all, and so where do we focus?

[1:24:27] I did have one question, I don't know if you have questions to jump in, but for the radar section

[1:24:32] there's a very clear parkway bridge painting project, are you talking about, or are you

[1:24:43] columns from the erosion and it was brought to our attention that it could use

[1:24:48] the painting. I'm not able to do that in the project. That was allocated to it and so

[1:24:56] we pulled that out separate and identified it as something that would need to compete with other

[1:25:01] gates. It's about the bridge that connects like right by the Clarkson

[1:25:04] Collectivity note like that. So this is the, this is the Bear Creek Bridge

[1:25:09] four-lane dividing roadway, and also the golf course in the creek.

[1:25:14] That's true.

[1:25:15] Yeah, I guess they've been working on that, so I wasn't completely aware of it, but I guess

[1:25:20] that it makes H.O.A. Fulton been working on that for a couple of years.

[1:25:24] So, since you seem like a worthwhile idea, so thanks for putting it on.

[1:25:27] It's the right arm.

[1:25:29] The only thing I had was, and it's not ours, it's both for females, and all the squazures near

[1:25:34] the Versy flooded. They had a huge development going down there at Versy and Ruth Snow, and a lot of

[1:25:42] they did seem someone to clean up a bunch to silt and a lot of it went in our sewer so hopefully

[1:25:47] didn't cause issues, but it was like a little leg on Versy and it which is bad enough but it was

[1:25:52] all the dirt from that development I guess they didn't do whatever they do correctly and it came out

[1:25:57] and so they had some emergency shoveling dirt off the road for a couple days but I don't know if there's

[1:26:03] thing we call it to, but some of that came into our system and if it doesn't up affecting the

[1:26:08] city, I don't know if we have any recourse, I know water is, you can't do anything with

[1:26:11] that.

[1:26:12] Well, a lot of that.

[1:26:13] Take a look at the storm drain.

[1:26:15] Okay, because of the amount of rain that fell, and yes, it was heavily latent with a lot

[1:26:20] of sediment.

[1:26:21] You got flushed out of the pipes very well, and the good news, we were fortunate that between

[1:26:27] the construction and the pipes, the next thing it hit was the channel was supposed to go

[1:26:32] to.

[1:26:32] So we're very fortunate how that it good. All right, it's great.

[1:26:39] All right, you're the questions

[1:26:40] All

[1:26:43] right, thanks, Lanzo. Thank you

[1:26:50] Do you want your D3

[1:26:58] We did we did one we did D1 yeah

[1:27:02] They say that we're in a muskwood push

[1:27:12] Yeah, sorry

[1:27:18] Yeah, I'll leave.

[1:27:19] I'll leave.

[1:27:21] Talk about it again.

[1:27:24] Yeah.

[1:27:24] Okay.

[1:27:26] Okay.

[1:27:26] Well, also you're saying D3.

[1:27:28] It probably, let's push D3 and D4.

[1:27:32] With D3, we'll give some of that out of the strategy report.

[1:27:34] Do that to you.

[1:27:34] Some of those went talk about this during the strategic session anyways.

[1:27:37] As far as like, kind of where the state of the city is in our five or

[1:27:40] Seattle, so we knew that to you in advance.

[1:27:42] Okay.

[1:27:42] And as we're building, we kind of know,

[1:27:47] as well. So it's kind of a snapshot of where staffs built to see how to be at this time

[1:27:52] but we can. So you're going to send us a report so we can review it and then

[1:27:56] let out future counseling and we can come for a pair of questions. Exactly. That's a little bit.

[1:27:59] That was it. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good. And then we want to do D2. We'll do T2 and so.

[1:28:06] So otherwise, our feet and the four of you see the limits.

[1:28:18] Is that what it is?

[1:28:18] How does that calcule, are we really wanting to discuss the important night of the U.S.

[1:28:23] MMS?

[1:28:24] I don't want Sarah and her team to stick around.

[1:28:26] I've talked about pushing it.

[1:28:28] It's not something that I see, it's like an existential need that we need to get to the night,

[1:28:32] but if you guys want to discuss it.

[1:28:33] I like the attachments and if people have that chance to review them, that would be a good one to come to the next meeting,

[1:28:39] because it got dulled and had a lot of...

[1:28:40] The other reason is a lot of the cities is pushing it, going to put staff in any kind of hardship.

[1:28:48] So, I have one question on that, so the list was great, is there a way that we could create a matrix

[1:28:55] where we could show similarities in this similarity across the different municipalities?

[1:29:04] So, if you recall, that was actually part of the presentation from April when we discussed it,

[1:29:09] and staff walked away from that discussion with the understanding that we really didn't want to go the way of those other cities.

[1:29:15] that we're looking more and just modifying the existing definition with some additional language

[1:29:19] rather than adopting a footward in it. So we can do that analysis, but that was really

[1:29:25] only included this time as a reference to what was presented last time.

[1:29:28] We can go.

[1:29:28] Let's just go through it.

[1:29:31] Yeah. Yeah. Let's just go through D4.

[1:29:40] All right.

[1:29:41] Pretty much.

[1:29:41] That's okay.

[1:29:43] It's fine.

[1:29:44] Let's say I could give you that council member.

[1:29:46] Very good.

[1:29:47] Yeah.

[1:29:47] I'm never up, I'm having fun with these.

[1:29:50] It's not like you.

[1:29:51] You guys are trouble-maker.

[1:29:52] I'm a matrix.

[1:29:53] I'm a matrix man.

[1:29:57] Frontier chair.

[1:30:23] I'm just sorry. I'm planning the fact that there's something to do with it.

[1:30:29] That's good idea. That's good idea.

[1:30:31] That's good idea.

[1:30:33] That was a peg five dollars, lost five, right?

[1:30:36] One of those, excuse me.

[1:30:38] So, you know what I can do then, but there's actually a bucket of money.

[1:30:43] That basically, the cable network or something pays.

[1:30:48] You go to see the color, pick fund.

[1:30:51] And it's used to...

[1:30:52] Oh, it's got a job thing like this.

[1:30:53] It's something that we give it to.

[1:30:54] And no one uses that.

[1:30:55] No one uses that.

[1:30:56] So it's all that it's doing.

[1:30:58] Just because we get an order, that's kind of a lot.

[1:31:00] Yeah.

[1:31:00] It's a fund that we have for this stuff.

[1:31:04] Oh, because nobody has cable in it.

[1:31:05] Yeah.

[1:31:06] It's kind of important.

[1:31:07] We don't need to touch the phone.

[1:31:08] Just please.

[1:31:11] Now that's fine, we're going to get to your matrix,

[1:31:33] and towards the key position now,

[1:31:35] I'll get that one of the reasons why

[1:31:45] I want to do this way.

[1:31:50] It's your right time.

[1:31:52] It's like you will look at

[1:32:01] the core and right through the agenda and the core and the core

[1:32:04] of the matrix, the core of the matrix, and the same thing, the same thing.

[1:32:20] So who pays the type of humble?

[1:32:22] So, you wouldn't have actual cable, so it's weird to say that way when you think about the

[1:32:27] world of streaming versus someone that's on a traditional frontier spectrum, charter system would

[1:32:34] aim into the background because they also have access to the public educational governmental

[1:32:40] channel, and that's what that means. So, but as you've switched over to streaming, I know

[1:32:44] people have, you know, I've talked about this, you know, you're spending more in streaming

[1:32:49] I'm going to use the fan cable on this one.

[1:32:51] It's very frustrating.

[1:32:53] It's free on the 10.

[1:32:55] I think it's easy.

[1:32:55] I don't want to hold school.

[1:32:59] I think the streaming doesn't get bad, so I'm going to pay the bill.

[1:33:02] Yeah, so I guess the idea is to fix stuff like this.

[1:33:05] That's good season.

[1:33:06] So I think we'll be talking to Sean here a little bit about the age of that projector.

[1:33:10] Oh, yeah.

[1:33:10] Since it's like the second or the meter or all that's happened, probably.

[1:33:18] It's fixed.

[1:33:19] So, please stop me if I gloss over anything that we want to revisit from the April discussion.

[1:33:28] But as a reminder, the issue or the reason that we're even starting this conversation is we've identified

[1:33:34] on occupations as kind of a recurring resident concern that we don't have a great solution sometimes to

[1:33:41] because of the definition in our code.

[1:33:45] So we'll talk about some of those concerns we've had reported to co-compliance.

[1:33:50] I've got the current definition that's in the UVC right now for home occupations,

[1:33:55] which is really all the regulation we have.

[1:33:56] We don't have a separate section of the code or anything else that regulates home occupations.

[1:34:01] We did put together a draft red line with some help from Stan.

[1:34:05] This is just an example for discussion purposes.

[1:34:08] We could certainly modify a change as throw it out.

[1:34:11] whatever counts of once, and then in terms of next steps, we talked about this last

[1:34:16] time, one of the options is to do nothing, is to just affirm what's in the

[1:34:20] code, is satisfactory for color and keep going. We can certainly do some

[1:34:25] additional research after their discussion, or if we felt like the red line was

[1:34:30] pretty close to what council wanted, we could move forward with P&D

[1:34:34] consideration like Langeal Eye, and then that would be back on a council agenda in

[1:34:41] So, this is probably ticked up just a little bit.

[1:34:44] We've actually had a few other complaints over the last couple of weeks on.

[1:34:48] Occupations of these are 36 separate properties.

[1:34:50] So this is not some huge issue that we're dealing with on a daily basis.

[1:34:56] But for the residents that are reporting it,

[1:34:58] it's really affecting the enjoyment of their home.

[1:35:00] They feel like it's really impacting the quality of their lives

[1:35:05] because the things that are often going on next door across the street are occurring,

[1:35:10] and that's other regular basis that they feel like it's starting to make their neighborhood

[1:35:15] feel not so much like a single family neighborhood anymore.

[1:35:19] So some of those common complaints are really related to traffic and vehicles on the street.

[1:35:25] Sometimes there are company vehicles or vehicles that are wrapped, sometimes their vehicles

[1:35:31] with creditors attached, some sort of work materials or heavy equipment on a lot, probably

[1:35:39] one of the biggest complaints is employees that don't live at the home, don't even live

[1:35:44] at the neighborhood reporting to work at the home, which kind of compounds the problems with

[1:35:50] traffic and any obstacles on the street, and then oftentimes some of the businesses that

[1:35:57] that we hear some frustration over our auto repair

[1:36:00] businesses and 20 lessons,

[1:36:01] and we've also had issues with landscape companies,

[1:36:04] pool companies, with that a plumbing company

[1:36:07] where they were storing all their PVC

[1:36:08] and everything in their home, personal trainers operating

[1:36:13] out of their garage, just found music,

[1:36:16] just all sorts of things.

[1:36:18] But if you're living right next door to that,

[1:36:20] again, an experiencing at on a day-to-day basis,

[1:36:23] the residents are often failing,

[1:36:24] like this, this doesn't really feel like it's been a family neighborhood anymore.

[1:36:28] So, here's what we have right now in the EDC in terms of definition.

[1:36:32] I've bolded that language about the Home Occupation, not changing the neighborhood character

[1:36:37] or substantially increasing traffic to and from the dwelling, oftentimes when residents

[1:36:44] do their own research, they'll come to this and say, well, clearly this is changing

[1:36:48] the neighborhood character and clearly they're increasing the traffic to and from the dwelling.

[1:36:51] There's a really difficult thing to enforce and might mean something different, you know, changing the neighborhood character can mean something to every, you know, something different to everyone.

[1:37:03] So, we have very few cases where it seems, obviously, in violation of the store nets, you know, usually, you know, the ones that are easy is like, they're working, you know, they are operating, you know, a salon and they put a sign in their front yard, what just happened?

[1:37:19] because that's the easy one.

[1:37:20] Like, no, we can't do that whole website, but most of the time they're not doing things

[1:37:25] or that obvious.

[1:37:26] It's the little things that you don't notice unless you live in the neighborhood.

[1:37:30] So, this is the red line that, like I said, we put together with some assistance from

[1:37:36] sand.

[1:37:39] It would require the people involved in a home occupation to be inhabitants of that particular

[1:37:46] dwelling so that would address the concern of employees that don't don't live in the

[1:37:53] neighborhood reporting to work there on a regular basis. So we allow them to do

[1:37:56] home businesses, even other not, don't do that, and say a lot of require a look.

[1:38:03] I don't know that we have the option to completely prohibit them. That's not

[1:38:07] asking. I'm just saying I want to, you know, in the last legislation say

[1:38:11] locking and it said you have to allow home business. You can regulate it in this form,

[1:38:15] You can't, yes, you can use what you can't, how right then.

[1:38:19] Home occupation.

[1:38:21] Not saying I want to.

[1:38:22] Right.

[1:38:23] That's a good question.

[1:38:26] You know, we did leave the language in there for now, in terms of not changing the neighborhood

[1:38:30] character added increase on street parking.

[1:38:35] Also put some language in there about the outdoor assembly of employees, clients, or equipment.

[1:38:39] That's another complaint that we get sometimes with the employees arriving at the home.

[1:38:42] They're not actually going into the home.

[1:38:44] They're stealing at the end of the driveway.

[1:38:46] You know, maybe they'll drive up in their personal vehicle,

[1:38:48] park it on the street, and then they'll wait for someone else to come

[1:38:52] and they'll get in the landscape truck, or the full truck, or whatever it is.

[1:38:58] So the off street park, and they would just go park

[1:39:00] in front of somebody else's house,

[1:39:04] and that's kind of...

[1:39:05] I'm just kind of pushing it to somebody else's.

[1:39:09] I think certainly, all of the different points about parking

[1:39:13] and trap-based are difficult to enforce unless there is an actual violation, you know,

[1:39:19] they've got a car parked on the street the wrong way with two flat tires or something else

[1:39:24] that chief folks could enforce, it's going to be, it's going to be difficult.

[1:39:30] And what is enforcement look like right now is that just somebody somebody makes a complaint

[1:39:35] that's a kind of the enforcement mechanism in terms of how folks identify.

[1:39:40] So, any time we get a complaint about a home occupation, we'll typically check out the property.

[1:39:46] Sometimes we'll just, we don't need to get a sticker.

[1:39:53] Sometimes, if we're not quite sure what's going on, we'll send, not even like a violation notice or anything

[1:39:59] that the property owner will just send in something.

[1:40:01] It's like, hey, can you contact our office and have a conversation about this?

[1:40:07] And just so we can understand what they're doing on the property,

[1:40:13] occasionally we'll have a case like I said with the beauty salon with the sign in the yard and that's a pretty easy case to send it and usually takes a letter or two and they'll stop doing that.

[1:40:24] Other times when it's not as clear like some of the examples I've given in terms of the full company in the landscape company will go over whatever we've received from the surrounding residents.

[1:40:36] whatever, co-compliance has been able to observe and then visit with Aaron, Stan, and then

[1:40:43] sometimes a prosecutor to see if this even works.

[1:40:47] You know, we can pursue a case, but ultimately if it's not going to go anywhere, if we

[1:40:52] get only the court, should we even continue it?

[1:40:59] So those, the 36, that you listed, is that like 36 complaints, or is that 36 homes?

[1:41:05] What did I just try that that's 36 individual properties some of those have double digit complaints on

[1:41:11] I'm a manly have one or two. Okay

[1:41:15] So kind of small number it is definitely a small number

[1:41:19] If it was a different type of violation or or I should say different type of complaint that we were easily able to

[1:41:26] address

[1:41:27] We wouldn't even be having this conversation, but the nature of the conversations were having with residents when they live next to one of these

[1:41:35] How much of a relationship businesses, we felt like it was worth at least bringing the council for discussion,

[1:41:42] understanding that the end result may change. We leave everything alone. We say,

[1:41:46] we're just going to leave a definition as this. We're comfortable with it.

[1:41:51] What's the councilman, including his point? Because I can't remember, say we get a really bad situation.

[1:41:57] They leave it out there. Is it end up in fines or, you know, they go to court or what's the...

[1:42:03] Yeah, so it's stage time and I want to very say something to you.

[1:42:09] We follow our normal compliance process, which involves several different stages of violation.

[1:42:16] In that application, we're able to send a notice.

[1:42:18] You've got 10 days, either come into compliance, contact us, for an extension, or to have a conversation,

[1:42:24] and then we re-inspect.

[1:42:26] And then, you know, assuming that we still find the violation, we've got another 10 days.

[1:42:29] So it's good for that entire process, it usually sort of occurred to see notice, notice the violation,

[1:42:35] final notice, and then citation.

[1:42:37] And once it gets the citation, it's really in the prosecutor in the municipal court of hands.

[1:42:42] So no one on staff can go out and issue a fine.

[1:42:45] That happens.

[1:42:46] Right, the court.

[1:42:50] There's another general practice this time.

[1:42:52] This will avoid the kind of avoiding that, as best we can, and keep compliance.

[1:42:58] So like I mentioned, certainly an option to take now action, to do some additional discussion,

[1:43:07] to move forward, but at the same time of amendment for how best to do some additional research.

[1:43:13] I mean, it changes the language are not very significant.

[1:43:16] Just give us a little bit from our definition.

[1:43:19] Right, and again, and I'll pull up these because I know comes in right with us about some of the other cities

[1:43:35] That was

[1:43:57] Yeah, and it totally goes. Yeah, there's a family family members

[1:44:05] But they say by incompetence of the drawings, so there may be, like, a piece of light living together that are not family.

[1:44:24] Because there are, I think, I guess, I know there's 36 complaints since 2020.

[1:44:30] But there was like, how many active inquiries are there?

[1:44:36] Currently, I think we've got three cases involving.

[1:44:43] Okay, and then I was already the, like, Ausshoe parking I can't remember from the last conversation.

[1:44:49] Um, one of them is on street parking, and just general increase in traffic.

[1:44:54] One of them is a combination of traffic parking, music.

[1:44:58] ah

[1:45:00] Nois, and then the one that we...

[1:45:05] That's what I really do at home occupation.

[1:45:07] That's what the neighbors are saying.

[1:45:10] Yeah, that's what the home occupation is at home.

[1:45:13] They're operating a... Again, this is what the neighbors are saying.

[1:45:18] The one with the noise in the music, they're operating a general personal training system.

[1:45:24] So they'll do it in the garage with the driveway.

[1:45:27] the garage door rolled up and pulled some of the equipment and weights into the driveway and

[1:45:34] they'll do it two, three, four or five times.

[1:45:36] Are they like online marketing that it's a gentleman?

[1:45:38] How do we know?

[1:45:39] I mean, that one is a complaint that's just a gentleman in the last couple of days, so we'll

[1:45:43] have a stand-up a lot of research on that one.

[1:45:45] So CG people will post it at their homes.

[1:45:48] And it could be there's a very good chance that when we talk to them, it's just a

[1:45:52] group of friends that gets together and works out.

[1:45:54] I have a question for Stan, if we were to end women in our age model, is that not legal that?

[1:45:59] Like one, if it's only family members, you can't ever make it.

[1:46:03] And all of them, like how do they...

[1:46:04] You can't live as a family member.

[1:46:07] It's a Supreme Court as many players as you're talking about.

[1:46:10] Okay.

[1:46:10] No, we're not.

[1:46:11] We're not.

[1:46:12] We're short of footage.

[1:46:14] So you can't live to two.

[1:46:17] Okay.

[1:46:17] The same structure.

[1:46:18] We were late.

[1:46:20] But because there's a lot of definitions you're seeing and probably all the definitions.

[1:46:26] And we looked at it.

[1:46:27] We're not done.

[1:46:28] We're probably just trying to family it to go my way to a total number of options.

[1:46:32] Cooperation.

[1:46:33] But if you took out family members, is it an or actually go based on the kind of the new guidance that

[1:46:39] in the city manager saying from the state that basically says,

[1:46:42] it says family members.

[1:46:43] But residing on premises about no outdoors and live employees, clients or equipment.

[1:46:48] You know a reasonable traffic.

[1:46:52] Well, there's no increase.

[1:46:54] Oh, there's no increase in the amount of time.

[1:46:57] There's a very simple way.

[1:46:59] Sorry, wish that.

[1:47:01] The no increase of traffic is almost impossible.

[1:47:04] Because you've got a quantum problem.

[1:47:06] That's true.

[1:47:07] You can say the additional item or off street party.

[1:47:10] I'm not not going to raise those.

[1:47:11] It's just trying to get a baseline of what's even legal.

[1:47:14] Well, I think it's convenient.

[1:47:16] But not going to.

[1:47:16] If you talk about parking, it's your legal to park there, then how do you conclude that there's an increase in parking?

[1:47:28] Right.

[1:47:29] You're either parked immediately?

[1:47:31] You're just got a lawyer.

[1:47:35] Well, I think the additional parking would be based off the day.

[1:47:38] That's awesome.

[1:47:39] They're not.

[1:47:39] Residents would go home.

[1:47:40] Wait, for that six years?

[1:47:42] Probably.

[1:47:43] So, a couple of things that may just be helpful or food for a thought, may or to finish

[1:47:48] talking about the current cases, one of the ones that we're working on, it's probably

[1:47:53] one of the more of these, once we've seen where they're actually operating at food truck,

[1:47:57] business, off of their property, so they're storing multiple food trailers on the property,

[1:48:03] and then they're having things like grease, grease trucks, service at the home, vent hood

[1:48:09] cleaning and then they have their employees come on the weekends and park at the property

[1:48:14] and then they're taking the trailers to and from for the events and so that's one

[1:48:20] we've got going right now.

[1:48:22] So if we take the most extreme scenarios,

[1:48:27] food, sharp operator, parking in a driveway, you

[1:48:32] know, doing groceries, clean up or whatever, what's the most effective like school, a lot

[1:48:38] all these tools, it doesn't seem to be that employee parking is as much the issue.

[1:48:44] That's an issue. I mean, they're all issues, right?

[1:48:46] I'm wondering what's the best tool that we have in the language that y'all drafted

[1:48:54] that can help curb that.

[1:49:03] It's certainly, you know, things being carried out by the inhabitants of the dwelling.

[1:49:07] Also the equipment on site.

[1:49:10] The one that I just described though is probably one was with per se even under the current definition just because there's so many different things

[1:49:17] It's going on. What's that that fake trunk business?

[1:49:23] So, remind me where we landed last time because I remember it was kind of all over the map.

[1:49:30] Most of my doing.

[1:49:32] But

[1:49:39] can't we just go in and argue that they're changing the neighborhood character and then we're going to look like a set of old jean carrying

[1:49:44] I was wondering that said maybe like some criteria that like factors that we can look at.

[1:49:48] I thought that's what we landed the last discussion.

[1:49:51] It might be better.

[1:49:52] Maybe this is what we've done.

[1:49:54] There's some factors.

[1:49:55] I thought it was going to be instead of just kind of this overly broad and vague and never a

[1:49:59] character that we were going to basically say, you know, and these are the factors that

[1:50:04] city staff are kind of forcing it to look at, including, you know, but not limited to the

[1:50:14] Well, we're just frankly, I just don't.

[1:50:17] Yeah, like, what is, you know, like, what is littering, right?

[1:50:19] Yeah, so it's like such a fact-intensive task.

[1:50:22] I almost feel like, you're almost will you that we need to, I don't know, is that good?

[1:50:28] Um, fall process, stand at Sarah, or is that, is that something that's too vague for enforcement?

[1:50:34] Yeah, man, you're, I think, you're correct.

[1:50:38] Well, we're probably going to have to show a court to prevail and

[1:50:47] it's a transformation of what

[1:50:48] one would expect to see.

[1:50:53] It's probably a matter of

[1:50:57] the good concentration of workers or traffic

[1:51:03] probably going to look

[1:51:05] at.

[1:51:06] But it's more of a transformation that may

[1:51:16] be shocking,

[1:51:48] the strength of the day is kind

[1:51:50] of hard to distinguish that with what

[1:51:54] one would.

[1:51:54] I guess what I think is, like, more specifically the existence of that, which is clear

[1:52:00] secondary provided that, these are some of the activations. I'll be carried out by an happens

[1:52:05] of the dwelling on promises, does not change neighborhood character or should. I was like

[1:52:11] maybe say, does not change neighborhood character or as measured by the following factors

[1:52:16] colon and then list out the Austrian parking, the loitering, all the different factors, because

[1:52:23] like I just don't think, you know, one of these issues probably is not a great case to prosecute

[1:52:29] unless it's like really dramatic, you know,

[1:52:32] like someone storing a work trailer in their driveway

[1:52:36] for a couple of days between projects,

[1:52:38] it's probably not gonna offend or shock the conscience,

[1:52:41] but if you have five factors and all five factors,

[1:52:43] or maybe that's enough to prove it case.

[1:52:50] I don't know if you guys are interested in it,

[1:52:51] it's gonna be more concrete.

[1:52:54] This is a little bit specific.

[1:52:58] You could actually point it in at some point,

[1:53:00] then bullet points.

[1:53:01] To be easier for you guys.

[1:53:02] Well, no, that's it.

[1:53:03] Yeah, that's it.

[1:53:04] We'll have to think of everything.

[1:53:06] Let's do it.

[1:53:06] But underneath some of those more regist cases, you said that the current UDC, I mean, what

[1:53:11] it draws to that, is that right now?

[1:53:13] For the one that I described with the food track, we started to case on one.

[1:53:17] Because we did feel like based on everything we've seen and we've met with the surrounding

[1:53:21] residents, that one went beyond anything else that we've seen.

[1:53:26] Some of the others went into a weird, the neighbor's feel.

[1:53:29] it has changed the neighborhood character, but it's not enough to say it's not shocking enough

[1:53:36] to say we can pursue a case. So that's kind of why we put all these in this gray area

[1:53:41] for staff that we're basically, you know, who we, you know, one of the things that might be helpful

[1:53:46] we're talking about the state legislation. So the state legislation protects these,

[1:53:52] No feedback on base businesses, and then it describes it with these four things.

[1:53:59] You know, number of employees in clients, the FARC8 doesn't exceed the 50s occupancy limits, which is

[1:54:05] of no concerns on any of the ones that we've done with.

[1:54:08] It does not generate a bit, and again, we have some of the same language that we see in our code.

[1:54:12] It does not generate on-street parking or substantial increase in traffic,

[1:54:16] operates in a manner in which no activities are visible from the street and doesn't

[1:54:21] you know increase in noise or violate any other city regulation.

[1:54:25] There's like Mary Kay or doing office stuff from here.

[1:54:29] You're really your CDA officer.

[1:54:31] You're housed in even the synod impact.

[1:54:34] That was the entire time.

[1:54:36] Yeah.

[1:54:36] So these would be the factors you could use.

[1:54:40] You should be riding a little bit.

[1:54:42] I don't

[1:54:45] know what you all want to do.

[1:54:46] What do we think anything needs to be done?

[1:54:51] I'm asking you.

[1:54:52] Yeah.

[1:54:52] I feel like we're done.

[1:54:53] I've already.

[1:54:54] That means we need more concrete specifics.

[1:54:57] I think that would help stand.

[1:54:59] I think if it sounds like I'll just need authorization from us

[1:55:03] to get a little bit more assertive with some of our more,

[1:55:07] you know, some of our tougher cases.

[1:55:10] And so if it's as simple as a many encoded and basically adopting

[1:55:15] and these is factors that you could use.

[1:55:19] It would be a flotality of the circumstances type test, right?

[1:55:21] It would still be a staff in a little bit of a gray area,

[1:55:24] but I think it would give you maybe more

[1:55:26] to put the stand on if I'm hearing stand and do sarah correctly.

[1:55:31] So it would be just delineated.

[1:55:32] That way, if I'm a flotent force, I'm not a fish on you.

[1:55:34] I'll hit you here.

[1:55:35] You're out of bounds on three out of four of these.

[1:55:38] You got to work with us, otherwise you're going to

[1:55:40] get out of state action, and you can coach and do compliance.

[1:55:42] Sorry, sorry.

[1:55:43] And I think it also helps just knowing we have this conversation so that concerns get raised to give you a guess we understand why

[1:55:50] They're pursuing that to be our work, but maybe instead of I was a conversation and we had that dialogue, so there's still even just having a conversation as a

[1:55:59] Is a nice to do helps and helps out the cause

[1:56:07] So I

[1:56:13] house that people live in. It says it's a little number of boys and

[1:56:18] clapping. It's not exceeding cities occupancy limits. What does that mean?

[1:56:24] That's why the one more, but we've never had any type of issue like that in

[1:56:30] Keller. I'm not even aware of any occupancy limit that we have on the

[1:56:35] You know what happens if you have like 30 people in the house, you know, you know,

[1:56:45] which means that some cities where you get a bunch of people through.

[1:56:49] I'm just, well, you're the neighbor.

[1:56:51] You know, you're okay.

[1:56:52] Are there?

[1:56:53] I'm just saying.

[1:56:53] So I guess what?

[1:56:55] Yeah.

[1:56:55] And some cities may have regulations that we don't in our single family ordinances, in terms of number of unrelated people.

[1:57:04] you know all those different things. So I don't feel like that number one factor is really

[1:57:08] a much use in color because it's never been a problem.

[1:57:13] So let's see, like four, it's not very offshoot parking, operating a matter which, that's

[1:57:20] a bit messy.

[1:57:22] I mean, you could just write on a little bit, I'm not quite going to link

[1:57:25] which is there already in the runlines that I'll do, you probably need to make it a little bit

[1:57:30] here, bracket it out like this, put them with factors, and I would personally, I wouldn't

[1:57:36] be as conclusion in it, you know, instead of saying it's not generic, offshoot parking

[1:57:43] out, say it's not angry, increase traffic substantially, because if you say it's not turning,

[1:57:52] it's either it applies any offshoot parking, it's like, well that's true, so I'm kind of

[1:58:01] which is basically impossible to do, but you can list the factors and see how they go on.

[1:58:08] Have you talked to any of those other cities that you listed in that, and that made

[1:58:13] for it just to make sure that there weren't any unintended consequences?

[1:58:20] They were already a violation because it's a family only.

[1:58:24] I'm just making sure that this doesn't create other issues because to your point,

[1:58:29] there are a lot of successful businesses that started in some ways home.

[1:58:33] We have talked to a great finding in our age. I can follow up with staff. I can call it both before we are dealing with time with adoption.

[1:58:40] Yeah, I think the plan to keep in mind is that the state law is trending away from our ability to regulate the future when we become part of it.

[1:58:52] So, probably here is strength, what we have, I'll talk with you, draft, and you guys improve.

[1:58:59] We're probably going to be able to pursue the cases that are somewhat drastic.

[1:59:14] That's a good idea.

[1:59:16] I've got click direction on how we want to revise the draft.

[1:59:20] Do you want to see it again in a work session, or are we comfortable with it?

[1:59:25] that's not working on it. We can take it to P&Chance.

[1:59:28] If you want to work session, I'll put it on.

[1:59:30] And those may, sorry. Mr. Matrix.

[1:59:33] I mean, don't worry.

[1:59:34] Yeah. Yeah.

[1:59:36] It's hard. It's okay.

[1:59:38] Here's what I would suggest.

[1:59:40] I would, I personally don't need to see it on a work session.

[1:59:43] And we can put it on there if you don't want to re-discuss this,

[1:59:45] but I would actually encourage to be,

[1:59:48] I would sharpen your console and meet with staff.

[1:59:50] And then if you still want it to turn on a work session and then we can bring it back.

[1:59:54] But I'm, you know, I think we discussed enough as a council, whatever.

[2:00:01] Additive, and make it better. And so, that would kind of give staff the ability to just bring it to a regular meeting to vote on it.

[2:00:10] I don't need to rehash it.

[2:00:12] I don't.

[2:00:13] There's nothing close to it. Do anything inappropriate for what Texas opening meeting act.

[2:00:18] If we're not going to get presented, we'll discuss the year before we go to the diocese that day anyway.

[2:00:24] So we don't get to do it again.

[2:00:25] I don't think I'm going to be like, you know, in the language, I just want to make sure that we know our phones.

[2:00:39] So, like, talking with some of these other cities and then, again, just making sure that this doesn't create some unintended consequences.

[2:00:47] Well, if after y'all talk, if you think you need to be on a work session, I'll just, I'll just add it, but I think we'll be okay.

[2:00:53] Cool.

[2:00:59] Is that good? Clear direction?

[2:01:00] Yes, thank you.

[2:01:01] Thank you very much.

[2:01:03] Good luck, Dave.

[2:01:06] Good luck, Dave.

[2:01:06] Good luck.

[2:01:08] Good luck, Dave.

[2:01:10] Thank

[2:01:18] you, sir.

[2:01:20] Thanks, Dan.

[2:01:26] There's a minor we are in the process of a solid waste of day at this time.

[2:01:33] So, because we're in the process of middle of the bid,

[2:01:35] I'm going to refrain from using any company names

[2:01:38] are using the license of the state update on kind of where we are with the RFP process

[2:01:42] because we have the tail end of it, getting ready for kind of the conclusion of that.

[2:01:49] So in summary, our current contract is in September 1.

[2:01:54] Based on the committee and based on what we saw from the Citizen Survey, the goal is to try and maintain

[2:01:59] our current service levels, but that means twice a week pickup for trash once a week for a cycle

[2:02:04] once a week for bulk and also the yard waste.

[2:02:07] So trying to maintain that as well. We did also seek out bids for alternatives just to seek a price

[2:02:13] Comparancy if we went to once a week with all cars for that look like just gonna price comparison that as we met

[2:02:19] Based on the thing in the survey we recognized that that was the preferred home on that. It's best we good

[2:02:24] So with that we did actually see five RFPs

[2:02:28] The committee met

[2:02:29] Thank you. You can't remember any. That's what we're wildly forwarded me part of that. I'm a little staff

[2:02:34] And we were narrowed down to you two.

[2:02:38] We were seeking out a best at final from those two entities.

[2:02:47] Kind of an update on what we did.

[2:02:49] We have one of the members on February 17th.

[2:02:52] We discussed the terms of the RFP March 9th,

[2:02:55] and we issued a month later once we had all that drafted.

[2:02:58] We had a pretty good meeting on April 22nd.

[2:03:01] We should six companies attend that.

[2:03:04] Pretty good.

[2:03:05] Again, Bids were due on the 18th.

[2:03:07] We have five or C.

[2:03:08] We met last week. We went over the scoring of that. We started going to their scoring in advance.

[2:03:14] We saw the summary of that. That's where we got that in the two.

[2:03:17] Did they get many scoring or did stuff?

[2:03:19] So the chip rating numbers, and then also...

[2:03:22] Okay, so they get the committing numbers.

[2:03:26] To rent in the RFP and then we'll be a cognitive group.

[2:03:29] Everybody went to the meeting with their group again.

[2:03:33] The management.

[2:03:35] Well,

[2:03:38] so we side care and encourage you also along the committee.

[2:03:43] Myself, Brian, Jennifer, Howard, are you totally

[2:03:47] totally manager, and then Ryan Lee are purchasing the

[2:03:51] budget manager.

[2:03:52] OK, so I'd like to six people.

[2:03:54] Six people, yes.

[2:03:58] So again, the contract goals was to maintain the current

[2:04:00] surf frames, contract with the provider with similar city

[2:04:04] experience.

[2:04:05] So make sure that they handle the cities that had expectations like color,

[2:04:11] both in terms of expectations, but also size.

[2:04:16] And then of course the other goal is to minimize overall cost increases.

[2:04:21] With that, we'd be able to down to two, we'd request the best and final for those.

[2:04:26] We're expecting the results of that at the end of this week.

[2:04:30] So we are with that kind of at a decision-making time,

[2:04:34] as far as what the next step is and kind of when you're Council's concept of whether we

[2:04:38] would like to just have a committee meet again, we'll plan to do that anyways, meet again,

[2:04:45] narrow down to either narrow down to one. I just say on June 16th, this is the contract we think

[2:04:51] and the bidder we should bring forward, or we'd have both present on the 16th, based on what the

[2:04:58] best and finals are. I need to have them do a presentation to us and then do a special call

[2:05:03] war in the contract, and that way we have time to think about it, just kind of, and so

[2:05:09] I may be played by you depending on what the best and final scope for. Come out as.

[2:05:16] I'm also just kind of seeing if there's any interest in having right off the bat,

[2:05:19] saying we want presentations for both, or if the committee can inherit down to one,

[2:05:23] we'll be comfortable with reading the board just a little bit.

[2:05:25] I mean, we would have written a bit of that route, we would certainly have to adjust the

[2:05:35] We have some more presentations right down of all that and we have to be constantly impacted all at that time.

[2:05:49] One question, that's true.

[2:05:51] There's a lot of contracts that we were to go and I'm not saying I want to ask you.

[2:05:55] If we were to make a change, that's a quick time.

[2:05:59] The two of us that can reverse, are they contractually obligated to transition?

[2:06:03] That's probably what I'm trying to do.

[2:06:05] I have a contract in place, but I do 30, so they have the two months to make a contract.

[2:06:09] I guess my two sentences, I guess for transparency, say, for the residents, if they want to go back and figure out why we chose one over the other, having the two presentations on the record would be beneficial.

[2:06:36] Okay, let's say the both come for a second, it's like kind of meeting where you're at, but they both present.

[2:06:46] We're a big process perspective,

[2:06:49] you know, I guess if you're here and both on the 16th and then we'll be taking action on the 16th, is that what, or would we have a special call meeting, because like one, if they're both presenting and then the public understands like who the vendors are.

[2:07:05] And then, you know, essentially they ended up getting against each other.

[2:07:10] What are the reasons?

[2:07:12] Yeah.

[2:07:12] Whatever you present, it has to be their best advice.

[2:07:15] So they would be any more reinforcements.

[2:07:18] Yeah.

[2:07:21] But we can really have, it's still reminded, you know, there's PNZ.

[2:07:25] So we have to figure out how that would work.

[2:07:28] We just have to maneuver, but we are meeting on the 20th.

[2:07:30] Yeah.

[2:07:30] There's a special call already for the 23rd for the KMS.

[2:07:33] And so we tend to get into that as well to do a presentation in a war

[2:07:37] or do you have another special call in the future?

[2:07:42] Yeah.

[2:07:42] Yeah, I don't want to committee and I don't want to hear how you guys want it to be.

[2:07:46] It's either a spy with me.

[2:07:48] I'll just say when I was going to all the RFPs, they're all over the place.

[2:07:52] Yes.

[2:07:53] Each vendor is providing you their presentation from their viewpoint

[2:07:58] and it's kind of, it's not like you have a lot of apples and apples

[2:08:03] So they can give you their presentation, but it's, you know, it's not like unless you have

[2:08:08] some way that you're comparing it, it's not necessarily straightforward.

[2:08:15] It would be information that you provided you in the great detail, that's good, but it's

[2:08:20] not necessarily easy to decide, just based on that, that's some sort of measuring or some sort

[2:08:26] of combination.

[2:08:26] Just be aware, it's just a lot.

[2:08:30] That's why we're only going to have the two, and it's still like,

[2:08:34] or you'll have to confirm the two finalists there now, or do you need to wait?

[2:08:37] We need to wait.

[2:08:39] Okay. That's forward then.

[2:08:42] So our process perspective, they come as a result on the 16th,

[2:08:48] and then maybe 10-15-metre presentation, council can ask questions,

[2:08:53] and then why would we need to award it a special holiday if there's not?

[2:08:57] If we're, if y'all are comfortable with the awarding that night, you would have that luck, you would have a good idea.

[2:09:01] It's just a question every time.

[2:09:03] Transition and if you want to do that, again, I'm also thinking about how things went six years ago,

[2:09:10] whether we were at the goal line, I think I moved back to the 50-yard line.

[2:09:14] And so I think that's why I'm trying to prepare for it.

[2:09:17] We may have to take advantage of that extra day,

[2:09:20] a separate meeting, do finally award.

[2:09:22] Based on that, you know, and that just levels in the council.

[2:09:25] It's always a chance.

[2:09:27] I'm always going to be glass half full or a cylinder.

[2:09:30] I don't think that will happen.

[2:09:32] I personally, I don't know if this is where you all are at.

[2:09:35] I kind of like your idea of having it, you know, all in the open.

[2:09:41] Maybe seven.

[2:09:41] I don't want to waste any of what's time.

[2:09:43] So I would look kind of bad if I don't know what the rubric results are,

[2:09:47] and if there was a clear front arm or I don't want to waste any of what's time.

[2:09:51] but think just if they're finalists then we could hear from them.

[2:09:56] So I'm out of no, if you think it's a waste of time here.

[2:09:58] Oh no, I don't know what I'm saying, I don't know what I'm saying.

[2:09:59] I'm out of here.

[2:10:00] I didn't say it was waste of time.

[2:10:02] I don't care how you all work.

[2:10:03] Yeah, I mean, if you think Greg's a little bit of time, that's fine.

[2:10:06] I mean, I know I know it because I've read through all our piece.

[2:10:09] It's been entirely different on it.

[2:10:11] But I'm saying that if you guys want that information

[2:10:13] of these two contractors that we've done, so that's fair.

[2:10:18] It just realizes just going to be a little bit of a fire hose.

[2:10:20] And you're listening to them and yeah, you have to say, yeah, no, I don't want to come with

[2:10:27] like specific things that you're had after what you're interested or what some of the things

[2:10:31] are they that would be making great things that you could ask them.

[2:10:36] You could get some concreteness and some answers from your perspective and what are

[2:10:41] the directors.

[2:10:42] It's a lot of data.

[2:10:44] There are certain things, certain companies emphasize, certain things, certain companies.

[2:10:48] It doesn't mean one's better or worse than other.

[2:10:51] No, I just think I have no that information out there.

[2:10:55] Less than the likelihood of somebody who has an axe

[2:11:01] to grind and make some kind of unfounded accusation

[2:11:03] of the impropriety.

[2:11:07] Yeah.

[2:11:07] I like it.

[2:11:08] We'll do a little option to plan on everything goes well.

[2:11:13] We can award a contract that now.

[2:11:14] It'd be a two with a push to a special code.

[2:11:19] Very good.

[2:11:19] Thank you. Well that's special calls on the 20th there already for the camera singers also. Yes, sir

[2:11:25] 3 p.m.

[2:11:27] 3 p.m.

[2:11:28] 5 p.m.

[2:11:29] Is it on the 23rd?

[2:11:30] It can make it 3 p.m.

[2:11:32] We got it.

[2:11:33] I like 5 p.m though.

[2:11:35] 5 p.m.

[2:11:36] I like 5 p.m.

[2:11:37] I like 5 p.m.

[2:11:38] I do.

[2:11:40] The keep in mind, the only downside is that we'll have to kind of shuffle around where p and z is and that's also

[2:11:47] p and z now.

[2:11:49] Okay.

[2:11:51] Is it like 600?

[2:11:52] Is it 100?

[2:11:53] Yeah, we know.

[2:11:54] So we have also, our work could be out there.

[2:11:58] So it just all we could use as a stroke for the preset.

[2:12:01] All right, Sarah, we won't jam them up too bad, so we go longer than 630.

[2:12:04] Right?

[2:12:05] So we can put meaning in 2630–630 later.

[2:12:07] Oh, OK, well in 20 a time, up.

[2:12:09] Yeah.

[2:12:09] We can put a link in the chat.

[2:12:12] So that's doable.

[2:12:14] That's doable.

[2:12:16] You're okay.

[2:12:17] I'd probably come here.

[2:12:19] You'd push it later.

[2:12:21] Not five o'clock.

[2:12:22] It sounds good.

[2:12:23] All right.

[2:12:25] Thanks, Aaron.

[2:12:26] Thank you, sir.

[2:12:32] Do you want to present the CIP?

[2:12:34] I don't think you'd push in here.

[2:12:37] That's actually it's all.

[2:12:38] I'm going to turn it on.

[2:12:39] The plug is right now.

[2:12:40] Let's just know what you would.

[2:12:43] We'll look already into this one.

[2:12:44] Okay.

[2:12:45] We already addressed that.

[2:12:46] So we could push it.

[2:12:46] I've seen what she's, if you had something to share.

[2:12:48] I want you to.

[2:12:49] Sit in there.

[2:12:51] All right.

[2:12:51] I think we've got to do our work session, right?

[2:12:53] Yes, sir.

[2:12:54] All right.

[2:12:56] We still have some...

[2:12:58] Well, it's a bit of executive session,

[2:13:00] matter we need to discuss.

[2:13:01] So the council meeting is not recessed,

[2:13:03] so the council will define some provisions

[2:13:05] of the text of the meeting.

[2:13:06] It's a meeting deck.

[2:13:07] It has authorized their inch.

[2:13:08] I'll go into executive session.

[2:13:09] It's a matter's allowed.

[2:13:10] They're in and has interested in the agenda.

City Council on 2026-06-02 5:00 PM - Wednesday, May 27, 2026.

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