[0:17] It's six 11:00 p.m. And I'd

[0:21] like to call this meeting to

[0:21] order.

[0:24] we'll begin with an invocation

[0:25] led by council member parker

[0:26] followed by the pledge

[0:28] of allegiance led by council

[0:29] member fugit.

[0:36] please rise as your able

[0:39] tonight.

[0:40] may we open our ears and eyes,

[0:43] our hearts and our minds so

[0:44] that we may make decisions for

[0:46] the residents of the city

[0:50] of knoxville pledge allegiance

[0:53] ok, thank you very much to our

[0:54] veterans and to honor our folks

[0:57] who've helped run those on our

[0:58] air flights for the last

[0:58] twenty years.

[1:00] to the safe which one nation

[1:01] it's been amazing.

[1:01] next item is our consent

[1:02] agenda.

[1:03] indivisible with liberty and

[1:04] is there a motion on the

[1:08] consent agenda, mayor?

[1:09] I would like to remove one item

[1:12] justice for all mr. Johnson,

[1:12] twelve q item twelve.

[1:13] would you please call wrong

[1:13] councilman adams here

[1:16] q and I'll go ahead and move to

[1:16] approve the consent agenda

[1:16] councilman bart leyburn here

[1:19] asked me if you could hear

[1:20] minus twelve.

[1:20] councilman grant here,

[1:20] councilman housley here,

[1:21] q is there a second to that

[1:24] councilman honeycut your

[1:24] councilman lloyd here,

[1:25] councilman parker here in

[1:26] councilman thomas all members

[1:27] motion anyone second.

[1:27] present.

[1:28] ok so the motion is to approve

[1:30] mayor, thank you.

[1:31] the consent agenda um we're

[1:31] is there a motion on the

[1:32] minutes from the february

[1:36] twenty six workshop voted for a

[1:37] adding twelfth oh I don't

[1:38] second something right well no

[1:38] motion made to approve second

[1:39] seconded any questions or

[1:41] but she made the motion to

[1:42] approve the consent as as

[1:43] discussions?

[1:44] I see a lot of lights on the

[1:45] adjusted that's ok.

[1:45] that for questions or

[1:46] so much has been made and

[1:46] discussion.

[1:47] no, mr. Grant, your light is on

[1:48] now.

[1:48] seconded any questions are

[1:49] discussions going on?

[1:50] ok, all right.

[1:51] thing no questions or

[1:52] all those in favor say any

[1:52] discussion all those in favor

[1:53] oppose the consent agenda

[1:54] please say I any opposed motion

[1:55] carries are there is there a

[1:56] is approved.

[1:56] all right.

[1:58] motion on the minutes of the

[1:59] march 3rd regular meeting

[2:00] we'll move along to the mayor's

[2:01] report first I want to wish

[2:02] motion to approve a motion to

[2:03] approve and seconded any

[2:03] everyone happy st. Patrick's

[2:03] questions are discussion saying

[2:04] day to all who celebrate I sort

[2:05] of feel like with the orange

[2:07] and the green we have an irish

[2:08] flag thing going here in the

[2:11] audience so I hope appreciate

[2:12] all the folks who came out for

[2:15] the various parades and so

[2:24] none of those in favor please

[2:25] say any oppose motion carries

[2:26] on to our agenda for tonight.

[2:27] are there any items to be

[2:28] withdrawn?

[2:29] are there any items to be

[2:29] postponed?

[2:30] are there any items to be added

[2:31] by motion?

[2:32] >> ok and under item five d has

[2:33] been suggested that we do the

[2:34] commemorative resolution for

[2:35] honor er at this item our

[2:36] forth over the weekend.

[2:36] motion to move that item to

[2:37] we we also had a very busy

[2:37] weekend.

[2:38] it was the home opener for one

[2:39] knox soccer.

[2:40] there were thousands of people

[2:40] five I'll make a motion that we

[2:40] here for the bassmaster classic

[2:41] which we had a winner from

[2:42] tennessee very exciting.

[2:42] the ice breakers had a home

[2:43] game.

[2:44] there was a five k there is a

[2:44] move that to item five the

[2:44] jerry seinfeld show is a very,

[2:45] second motion made and seconded

[2:45] very busy weekend and that's a

[2:46] lot of fun for residents and

[2:46] visitors.

[2:47] but it's also a testament to

[2:47] does everyone understand motion

[2:48] our public service crews, our

[2:48] before them.

[2:48] transportation engineers are

[2:49] any questions are discussions

[2:49] police and fire people who pick

[2:50] up the trash who keep

[2:50] everything running smoothly

[2:51] when you have a busy weekend

[2:52] being done all those in favor

[2:53] like that and you don't hear

[2:54] anything bad happening, that

[2:55] please say I any opposed motion

[2:56] means the city employees did

[2:56] carry so let's go ahead and

[2:57] their job.

[2:59] here that resolution please.

[2:59] twelve years resolution

[3:00] so I want to thank all the city

[3:00] expressing gratitude and

[3:01] folks who make those fun

[3:01] activities stay safe and stay

[3:03] appreciation to honor er

[3:04] knoxville for its many years

[3:04] fun.

[3:04] of service to the veteran

[3:05] with that said, we have another

[3:07] big weekend around coming up

[3:08] around the corner big ears

[3:09] festival runs from march

[3:09] community of east tennessee

[3:12] twenty six to twenty ninth.

[3:12] this festival attracts people

[3:13] from all over the world and

[3:14] most emotion to approve motion

[3:14] made and seconded council

[3:15] there's another great

[3:16] opportunity for us to showcase

[3:17] our beautiful city.

[3:17] member honeycut thank you

[3:18] colleagues and fellow community

[3:20] there are lots of ticketed

[3:21] events but there's also lots

[3:21] members.

[3:22] of free events that are open to

[3:22] thank you all for being here

[3:23] tonight.

[3:23] the general public.

[3:24] I invite you all to check it

[3:24] out.

[3:25] tonight we have the privilege

[3:26] of presenting a resolution

[3:28] it's filled with fun and

[3:28] surprises and I always enjoy

[3:29] recognizing honor er knoxville

[3:30] for their extraordinary service

[3:31] to the veterans of east

[3:32] the music that they share.

[3:33] on a sadder note, I want to

[3:34] tennessee since 2007 honor er

[3:35] has flown more than four

[3:35] take a moment to publicly send

[3:36] our condolences to the friends

[3:37] thousand seven hundred local

[3:37] veterans to washington dc

[3:39] and family of wanita usher

[3:39] ca on.

[3:40] giving them the opportunity to

[3:42] visit memorials built in their

[3:42] mccannon died at the age of 86

[3:43] .

[3:44] she was a long time educator in

[3:44] honor of service.

[3:45] these are veterans from our own

[3:46] neighborhoods men and women who

[3:47] knoxville and served 18 years

[3:47] as a d.c. Board member.

[3:49] so please keep her family and

[3:49] served during world war two,

[3:50] friends in your thoughts and

[3:52] the korean war and vietnam.

[3:53] >> for many of them this is the

[3:53] first time standing before

[3:55] prayers.

[3:56] these memorials seeing their

[3:56] I want to remind everybody

[3:56] about our rules of decorum.

[3:58] we are here to do the city's

[3:59] official business those who

[3:59] service remembered reflecting

[4:00] wish to speak either to a

[4:00] on their sacrifice and knowing

[4:01] that their community

[4:02] specific agenda item or during

[4:03] a public forum need to sign up

[4:03] is grateful.

[4:05] >> if we have any veterans with

[4:06] with the city recorder.

[4:07] mr. Johnson before four p.m. Do

[4:07] us tonight I think we'd all on

[4:08] city council like to pause for

[4:10] not use profanity and in

[4:11] speaking to specific agenda

[4:11] a moment to just simply say

[4:12] thank you.

[4:13] thank you for your service.

[4:13] items you must stay on topic

[4:14] remarks must be germane to the

[4:15] question ahead of the assembly

[4:15] thank you for your sacrifice.

[4:16] thank you for the freedoms we

[4:17] that is statements must have

[4:18] bearing on whether the pending

[4:19] enjoy because of you.

[4:20] honor represents the very best

[4:21] motion should be adopted.

[4:22] those who fail to adhere to

[4:23] of east tennessee neighbors

[4:24] stepping up, volunteers giving

[4:25] these rules will be ruled out

[4:25] of order.

[4:26] for those who are listening

[4:27] their time and communities

[4:27] please note if you disrupt a

[4:27] coming together with their 30th

[4:29] public meeting you will be

[4:30] asked to leave or escorted out.

[4:31] and final flight unfortunately

[4:31] thank you in advance for

[4:33] everyone's respect for these

[4:33] rules.

[4:34] scheduled for april 8th.

[4:34] that concludes my mayor's

[4:35] it's especially fitting that

[4:36] report now are there any

[4:37] reports of committees or

[4:38] that we on the city council and

[4:38] the city of knoxville pause

[4:39] tonight as a community to

[4:40] council members serving on

[4:41] recognize this extraordinary

[4:44] committees or boards?

[4:45] >> council member honeycut I'll

[4:45] legacy for me personally and I

[4:46] think for all of us it reminds

[4:47] just report that I attended the

[4:48] recent pension board and

[4:49] us of something important that

[4:49] honoring our veterans is not

[4:51] investment committee meetings.

[4:52] just something that happens in

[4:53] washington, d.c. But something

[4:54] that we do here at home and

[4:55] both were routine in nature.

[4:56] the board approved standard

[4:56] items like new enrollments,

[4:57] it's more important to do here

[4:57] at home.

[4:59] retirements and invoices, all

[5:00] of which passed unanimously.

[5:01] so overall the system remains

[5:01] please join me and city council

[5:02] in thanking honor knoxville for

[5:03] stable and is performing well.

[5:04] nearly two decades of service

[5:04] so thank you.

[5:05] to our east tennessee veterans.

[5:06] >> let's give them a round

[5:07] thank you.

[5:08] any other reports from council

[5:10] members?

[5:11] how about announcements from

[5:14] council members?

[5:15] >> council member atom's thank

[5:15] you.

[5:15] of applause so at this time I

[5:16] know eddie manase who is the

[5:19] agreed the weekend that just

[5:20] passed was fantastic.

[5:20] founder and chair of honor

[5:21] couldn't be here tonight but he

[5:22] then it got cold but the

[5:24] has sent joe sutter and a group

[5:25] of veterans and people from the

[5:26] weekend ahead also looks

[5:27] promising and there were three

[5:27] events that I wanted to just

[5:28] honor team to to be recognized

[5:28] this evening.

[5:30] bring to focus attention.

[5:31] so I'll join you guys as you

[5:31] the first one is evms river

[5:31] rescue.

[5:32] guys to come to the stage for a

[5:34] it's an annual event that works

[5:35] photo op with city council and

[5:35] to clean up our rivers and it's

[5:35] administration.

[5:36] if you'll come up right here on

[5:38] a great thing to volunteer

[5:38] with.

[5:39] you can find more information

[5:40] the on the stage and should we

[5:41] do the vote first just as a

[5:42] about that at at ion's and sign

[5:43] up to volunteer.

[5:43] matter of fact I have a feeling

[5:43] it's going to pass.

[5:44] >> that's on saturday the

[5:44] we should do the vote.

[5:46] oh, and there's a few council

[5:46] twenty first also on saturday

[5:47] members who'd like to come in

[5:48] and speak and then we'll do

[5:48] that.

[5:49] the 21st is equinox that is a

[5:50] special celebration that's

[5:50] we'll invite you up on the

[5:50] happening in the old severe

[5:51] stage to receive your

[5:53] neighborhood in south knoxville

[5:54] proclamation.

[5:54] and it will be a free all day

[5:55] vice mayor, if you get thank

[5:55] you.

[5:56] I would not be a very good

[5:57] event with lots of activities

[5:58] going on including community

[5:58] military wife if I did not ask

[5:59] those veterans in the audience

[6:01] bike ride chi down by the river

[6:02] to please stand so that we can

[6:04] and a fun run and many, many

[6:05] other things including vendor

[6:05] market.

[6:06] so if you're looking for fun

[6:09] stuff to do on saturday, that'd

[6:12] be a great place to go and one

[6:13] other event that I wanted to to

[6:15] thank you and acknowledge and

[6:16] councilman grant, you didn't

[6:16] make note of is on sunday in

[6:17] the south haven neighborhood by

[6:20] stand or you said I know ok

[6:20] the maynard glen baseball field

[6:21] there is a community tree

[6:24] planting and free tree

[6:24] adoption.

[6:25] that tree's knoxville

[6:28] is putting on its on mcclung

[6:29] avenue and the tree planting

[6:29] voice you need to stand ok.

[6:30] thank you.

[6:31] is from two to four and tree

[6:32] adoption which that means you

[6:33] can get a free tree is from

[6:33] council member parker thank you

[6:33] mayor.

[6:35] four to five pm.

[6:37] generally when we bring

[6:38] resolutions like this forward

[6:40] >> thank you vice mayor if you

[6:40] get thank you.

[6:41] it is supported by the full

[6:42] council and I'm sure that the

[6:43] I just want to announce that

[6:44] full council supports this

[6:44] resolution.

[6:45] but just to be clear, I wanted

[6:47] next year that march twenty six

[6:48] that thursday we will be having

[6:48] to make sure and add my name as

[6:49] a co-sponsor.

[6:49] city council will have a

[6:51] thank ok.

[6:52] workshop and get an update on

[6:52] are there any council members

[6:53] who do not want their names to

[6:55] our of our affordable housing

[6:56] be added?

[6:56] or our housing programs and the

[6:57] ok, let's make sure all the

[6:57] names are on there please.

[6:59] for the record the unanimous

[6:59] work that the city is doing

[7:03] support and I'll just say I had

[7:03] with homelessness and so that

[7:04] the honor and privilege to be a

[7:04] is that will be at six pm in

[7:07] this room and we'll also be

[7:07] volunteer on one of the flights

[7:09] a couple of years ago and it

[7:09] was just such a privilege to be

[7:11] live streamed.

[7:11] with those veterans as they

[7:12] >> thank you.

[7:12] visited the memorials in our

[7:12] thank you.

[7:14] nation's capital that are in

[7:15] council member.

[7:15] our honor and some were able

[7:15] thank you.

[7:16] just two quick things.

[7:18] one I would like sort

[7:19] bodied and some were in

[7:19] of piggyback on what a great

[7:19] wheelchairs and and they were

[7:20] weekend we had with the

[7:22] bassmaster classic last

[7:22] weekend.

[7:23] all just so moved by the whole

[7:23] experience.

[7:24] I don't know if anyone out

[7:24] there actually was able to

[7:26] and I know a highlight for many

[7:26] attend but tens of thousands

[7:26] was the letters that they

[7:27] of people came in to knoxville,

[7:28] you know, great for local

[7:30] received and got to read on the

[7:31] businesses, great for our

[7:31] ride home because sometimes our

[7:31] community.

[7:34] veterans are very modest and

[7:34] it was fantastic and a thank

[7:35] humble about their service and

[7:35] you to visit knoxville, qed,

[7:36] all the city staff that made it

[7:38] possible.

[7:38] so to be recognized in that way

[7:39] the logistics behind it

[7:39] was incredibly meaningful also

[7:40] is incredible and for it to go

[7:42] to all the many volunteers over

[7:43] the many 20 some years that

[7:43] off as well as it did for our

[7:43] this has been happening to

[7:44] city to be represented as well

[7:46] as it is is testament to all

[7:46] eddie manna's who has been a

[7:47] of their hard work behind the

[7:47] scenes.

[7:47] so thank you.

[7:47] leader of this group and to the

[7:50] second, a quick announcement

[7:50] the people are going to be

[7:51] receiving this resolution on

[7:52] recess is over.

[7:53] this friday, march 20th at noon

[7:54] behalf of on our the city

[7:54] at camp honey coffee we are

[7:55] of knoxville thanks to the city

[7:56] we're going to resume our

[7:56] meeting if everyone could

[7:57] doing coffee with city council

[7:58] council we're very, very

[7:58] members so as many of us as

[7:59] grateful and we look forward to

[8:02] one last off and welcome home

[8:02] possible not all of us can be

[8:03] on april 8th.

[8:03] there because of schedules will

[8:05] will be there friday just to

[8:06] have an informal meet and greet

[8:06] so any further questions or

[8:07] and conversations with people.

[8:09] so campinas, your lakeshore

[8:09] comments all in favor please

[8:09] park for those that don't know

[8:10] please take their seats.

[8:12] if you can't make it there will

[8:13] be future opportunities.

[8:13] say any opposed by acclamation

[8:14] it passes if we can have the

[8:15] ok, mr johnson, if you could

[8:15] individuals who are

[8:15] proceed with item twelve f

[8:16] so stay tuned for us.

[8:17] but hopefully hopefully some

[8:17] representing on record please

[8:18] people can come out and join us

[8:18] come just to come to the stage

[8:21] if you wanted to say anything

[8:21] just so you're aware we can't

[8:21] before we take pictures would

[8:22] talk about agenda items because

[8:24] of the sunshine law but we

[8:25] welcome a few comments from we

[8:25] can't talk about the city as a

[8:25] whole.

[8:26] we really appreciate all that

[8:26] so please join us and and we

[8:29] you've done well thank you

[8:30] look forward to it.

[8:31] thank you.

[8:33] mayor and city council on

[8:34] behalf of any man as our

[8:36] moving right along.

[8:36] twelve f is the resolution

[8:36] founder and chairman a great

[8:37] >> um, next item please.

[8:37] authorizing the mayor to

[8:37] amount of support made this

[8:37] execute any all documents

[8:38] necessary to award a total

[8:38] amounts not to exceed two

[8:39] eleven dukes resolution of the

[8:39] hundred thirteen thousand four

[8:39] happen from the east tennessee

[8:40] council the city of knoxville

[8:40] hundred ninety nine dollars

[8:40] seventy one cents in

[8:40] community knoxville and many,

[8:41] opportunity youth program

[8:41] grants to thirteen community

[8:42] based organizations to support

[8:42] approving an appeal filed by

[8:42] programing for youth and young

[8:43] david hamilton for the norwood

[8:43] adults in the city.

[8:44] many, many volunteers touched

[8:45] you said over four thousand

[8:45] ok motion made to approve

[8:46] is there and seconded.

[8:46] homeowners group, humberto

[8:47] there are several people who

[8:47] signed up to speak on this

[8:48] rodriguez for h and in clinton

[8:48] item.

[8:48] veterans the volunteers, their

[8:49] we'll start with the three who

[8:49] family members and the

[8:49] signed up to speak in favor

[8:51] highway llc morris shiso for

[8:52] community at large.

[8:52] first as matthew zang matthew

[8:53] if you were ever at a welcome

[8:53] saying if you could come to the

[8:54] home at the national airport,

[8:54] podium, state your name and

[8:54] clinton tennessee llc and jason

[8:55] address for the record and

[8:55] surrell for knoxville

[8:56] it's pretty moving and on

[8:56] behalf of all of us and

[8:57] you'll have up to three minutes

[8:57] to address council.

[8:58] combatives llc thereby

[8:59] overturning the decision of the

[8:59] certainly mannus, thank you so

[9:00] much.

[9:01] hi my name is matthew sing one

[9:01] knoxville knox county planning

[9:01] one eight south central street

[9:02] commission to grant a special

[9:03] use application filed by

[9:03] >> thank you.

[9:04] knoxville, tennessee.

[9:04] >> let's welcome them up on the

[9:05] thank you for having us here

[9:05] today.

[9:06] clearcuts for a social service

[9:07] provider in this s.h. One

[9:07] stage for a quick photo and if

[9:09] mayor council members I am

[9:10] there's any veterans or

[9:10] district four probably located

[9:11] audience that would like to

[9:11] at fifty two hundred clinton

[9:11] matthew thing has already said

[9:12] come up and attend and be and

[9:12] I am the co-founder and

[9:13] be presented as well, please

[9:14] highway 5th district.

[9:15] executive director of two

[9:15] bikes.

[9:16] we are one of the proposed

[9:17] nonprofit recipients for the

[9:17] >> ok, thank you mr. Johnson.

[9:18] I would like the appellant to

[9:21] opportunity youth grant and I'm

[9:21] please approach the podium.

[9:22] here to speak in favor of our

[9:22] thank you.

[9:23] you're already there just

[9:24] organization and specifically

[9:25] our bike school program since

[9:26] before you start I want to just

[9:26] make sure council understands

[9:29] its inception in 2022 the bike

[9:29] what the rules that you have

[9:30] are that I'm going to be

[9:30] enforcing here.

[9:32] the appellant will have up to

[9:32] school has has provided paid

[9:33] internships for over 70 nox

[9:34] 15 minutes to present their

[9:34] case.

[9:35] join us.

[9:35] they can use as many or as few

[9:35] wow.

[9:36] area teenagers for a total

[9:37] of 6200 hours of workforce

[9:37] training.

[9:38] speakers as they wish.

[9:39] I would ask that each time

[9:39] there's someone taller than

[9:40] there's a change in speaker

[9:41] we help young people build job

[9:41] skills, independence and

[9:42] they say their name and address

[9:45] relationships that lost last

[9:45] long after they leave the

[9:46] for the record once that

[9:47] fifteen minutes is up I will

[9:48] program are dedicated to

[9:48] instructors.

[9:49] instructors teach our interns

[9:52] how to work on bikes of course

[9:53] call upon the apelt e and they

[9:53] , but it goes deeper than that

[9:54] will have up to fifteen minutes

[9:56] at two bikes.

[9:57] we've always believed that

[9:57] to state their case with as

[9:58] bicycles are more than just a

[9:58] many as few speakers as they

[9:59] means of exercise or

[10:00] transportation.

[10:03] they're a tool for exploration

[10:04] wish and then the ones that

[10:04] , for change and for community.

[10:05] fifteen minutes has finished

[10:08] they have the power to open up

[10:09] the original party will have up

[10:09] the world and our bike school

[10:09] to two minutes for rebuttal

[10:09] denzel and

[10:12] program reflects that belief

[10:12] then at the conclusion of the

[10:12] when we teach a kid how to

[10:13] steps council will deliberate

[10:15] and make a decision.

[10:16] change a flat tire or just a

[10:16] brake or give them the

[10:17] confidence to speak to

[10:19] ok any questions seeing none

[10:20] will have the appellant go

[10:21] ahead and start.

[10:21] customers or uplifting them in

[10:22] ways that echo beyond our shop

[10:23] if you could start by saying

[10:24] doors one of the truest

[10:24] your name and address for the

[10:24] unexpected lessons of working

[10:25] record and mr. Johnson is going

[10:27] to run the fifteen minute clock

[10:27] with your hands is realizing

[10:27] .

[10:28] thank you.

[10:28] that you are more capable

[10:28] my name is david hamilton.

[10:29] of taking care of yourself than

[10:31] I'm an attorney.

[10:32] you think you are and that you

[10:32] I'm at eighteen ten merchant

[10:32] have the skill set to tackle

[10:35] drive knoxville, tennessee

[10:35] whatever problems arise.

[10:36] within about approximately a

[10:36] our students come from

[10:37] different corners of the city,

[10:39] different schools, different

[10:39] half mile of this facility that

[10:40] walks of life and they each

[10:41] bring different perspectives to

[10:43] the program.

[10:44] is seeking change that we are

[10:44] appealing.

[10:44] they learn from us but they

[10:47] also learn from each other to

[10:47] I've been directed to do the

[10:48] that knoxville is a city

[10:50] of diverse voices and we work

[10:50] presentation and I wanted to

[10:51] hard to foster that

[10:51] collaboration and a sense

[10:54] of stewardship in our students

[10:54] say thank you before I begin to

[10:55] and we are constantly pushing

[10:58] mr. Swanson, mr. Swanson sent

[10:58] them to engage in participate

[10:59] me an email this morning

[10:59] in our community during the

[11:01] course of the program students

[11:02] refurbished bicycles which are

[11:02] addressing an issue and his his

[11:05] then donated to folks in need

[11:05] action helped to avoid

[11:09] some of them in this room and

[11:10] demonstrating that even the

[11:10] unnecessary friction and he

[11:13] smallest act can have a

[11:14] deserved the commendation and I

[11:14] profound impact on the lives

[11:16] of our neighbors.

[11:17] so again, I thank you for

[11:18] having me here.

[11:19] I'm very proud of the work

[11:20] we've done it who bikes?

[11:21] don't give those away for this

[11:21] >> I'm grateful for the city's

[11:24] support in the past and I'm

[11:25] appreciative of the

[11:25] is a difficult application

[11:28] consideration for this grant

[11:29] of both law and virtue I think

[11:29] and regardless of the decision

[11:29] is an example of the corruption

[11:30] tonight I'd like to extend an

[11:31] invitation to each and one

[11:32] of you to come down to our

[11:32] of virtue.

[11:33] shop, visit our students and

[11:36] see the hard work that we've

[11:36] done.

[11:36] and let me go through why this

[11:36] thank you.

[11:37] body should reverse the

[11:39] thank you.

[11:41] next person signed up to speak

[11:42] in favor of item twelve

[11:42] planning commission knoxville

[11:43] ordinance.

[11:46] >> it was hard fought and

[11:47] is khaleel white khaleel white

[11:48] come to the podium please state

[11:49] your name and address for the

[11:51] recently installed to replace

[11:52] record and you'll have up to

[11:52] three minutes to address

[11:55] mark let's say less flexible

[11:55] council.

[11:58] zoning opportunity for the city

[11:58] to grow.

[11:58] hi my name is khelil white or

[11:59] three forty east magnolia

[12:01] but it didn't stop the

[12:03] avenue and I oh speaking on

[12:04] behalf of the bottom we are

[12:06] responsibility of this body or

[12:07] black from a bookstore and

[12:07] the planning commission from

[12:07] community art space both in

[12:09] considering the different

[12:10] aspects of that hard fought

[12:11] east knoxville and we are one

[12:11] of the nonprofits that applied

[12:14] for the opportunity use grant

[12:15] for our solar cell a program

[12:16] that has been a program that we

[12:18] ordinance as of as of the

[12:19] have been running for the past

[12:21] beginning issue under article

[12:22] seven years now providing youth

[12:22] sixteen one b page three

[12:23] in our community what

[12:23] opportunities to take their

[12:25] creative avenues into

[12:26] seventy to the ordinance which

[12:26] businesses so we provide them

[12:29] is different from the pdf

[12:30] version if you're using the pdf

[12:30] with resources, sewing machines

[12:31] , sewing kit and opportunity to

[12:34] paging system because the pages

[12:34] connect with creatives business

[12:35] leaders to understand how they

[12:36] can be the next business

[12:36] are individually numbered.

[12:37] leaders in that community with

[12:38] >> clearcuts is not an owner

[12:38] this program we've been we've

[12:42] seen over 50 students have come

[12:43] through this space that have

[12:46] taken their their dreams and

[12:47] their ideas and turn them into

[12:49] products off the sewing

[12:50] machines and it's something

[12:51] that we want to continue to do

[12:51] in our space.

[12:52] >> thank you.

[12:56] thank you.

[12:57] >> the third person signed up

[12:58] of the property.

[12:58] to speak in favor of item

[12:59] they did not provide a lease.

[13:00] they were not properly a bore

[13:00] twelve is carry canon carry

[13:01] before the planning commission

[13:02] to seek either special use or

[13:03] any zoning mandatory

[13:05] consideration of the commercial

[13:06] site design is set out in

[13:07] article five one a three page

[13:08] canon when you get to the

[13:08] fifty six and that the site

[13:09] podium if you could please

[13:11] must be design I'm quoting now

[13:11] state your name and address was

[13:12] sites must be designed to

[13:12] the record and you'll have up

[13:13] to three minutes to address

[13:15] ensure safe pedestrian access

[13:15] council friends.

[13:16] in the public right away and

[13:16] my name is kerry canon smitti

[13:19] safe pedestrian circulation

[13:20] 24/7 western avenue knoxville.

[13:20] within the development

[13:22] I'm with the community action

[13:23] of article five table five dash

[13:23] committee and we are at western

[13:24] heights.

[13:25] um I'd like to briefly

[13:26] to page sixty two this project

[13:27] fails.

[13:27] highlight the impact of the

[13:27] opportunity youth engagement

[13:28] grant and we're continuing

[13:31] there are no sidewalk, there

[13:31] funding for programs like this

[13:31] are no crosswalks.

[13:31] pathways grant is so important

[13:35] for young people in our inner

[13:35] city communities through this

[13:38] grant the ac last year provided

[13:38] this is a arterial commercial

[13:39] road clinton highway.

[13:41] two cohorts of fifteen hours

[13:42] of career readiness and

[13:42] most of you are familiar with

[13:43] workforce development

[13:44] programing to the youth in the

[13:46] western heights neighborhood

[13:47] this and for this facility

[13:47] over the course of several

[13:49] sessions twenty students

[13:50] which is pedestrian centric at

[13:50] completed that program and

[13:51] graduated with new skills

[13:51] a highway auto centric location

[13:54] confidence and a clear vision

[13:54] inappropriate sufficient on

[13:54] for their future.

[13:55] participants were introduced to

[13:58] college and trade schools

[13:58] workforce opportunities through

[13:59] site parking had to be

[14:01] partnerships with organizations

[14:02] here in knoxville and local

[14:03] established this is required

[14:03] employers and they learned how

[14:03] under various applications

[14:07] to build resumes or practice

[14:07] interviews, develop

[14:07] professional skills that

[14:07] of article eleven one a one and

[14:10] prepare them for real job

[14:10] opportunities.

[14:11] the funding also helped remove

[14:11] also eleven for one table

[14:11] eleven does too.

[14:14] barriers by providing meals

[14:14] during sessions, professional

[14:15] I that's kind of technical but

[14:17] interview attire, mentorship

[14:18] completion stipend.

[14:18] it drives home the point this

[14:19] those supports ensure that

[14:19] site fails.

[14:21] students from underserved

[14:22] neighborhoods can participate

[14:23] it only has six parking slots

[14:23] fully and feel confident

[14:23] now they're going to respond

[14:26] pursuing education and

[14:26] that they have this extra lease

[14:26] employment for programing for

[14:29] twenty twenty six we're going

[14:30] area except the law requires

[14:30] to build on what we've already

[14:31] done for the twenty twenty four

[14:32] hour programing and we're going

[14:34] to with the introduction

[14:34] that the the appellant or the

[14:36] of trades and colleges in

[14:37] twenty twenty six will further

[14:38] the agenda on trade specifics

[14:38] petitioner provide a copy

[14:39] of the lease so that it would

[14:41] like what can one do with an

[14:42] electrician lessons.

[14:43] what can you do with a welding

[14:43] be reviewed by the city law

[14:44] certificate.

[14:45] what can you do with a

[14:46] department and approved that

[14:47] is article eleven point eight

[14:48] cosmetology license and so we

[14:49] will we want to career to

[14:51] at page twenty five and was not

[14:52] create career sustainability

[14:53] and to bring entrepreneurs and

[14:54] complied with.

[14:54] businesses back to knoxville

[14:57] especially in the urban areas

[14:58] by helping children become

[14:58] so this this entity is left and

[15:01] passionate about their work

[15:01] the underlying entity is left

[15:02] because we know when there's

[15:02] with an application of six

[15:02] passion in your work or you

[15:05] don't really go to work every

[15:05] day.

[15:05] parking slots available and

[15:06] I'm very passionate about my

[15:07] work and I love going to work

[15:08] every single day.

[15:09] ignored the requirement for

[15:10] having city law department

[15:12] um, we want these kids to come

[15:13] back and work in the areas two

[15:16] to to create sustainability and

[15:16] review the lease and approve it

[15:16] .

[15:17] longevity in the workforce.

[15:19] most importantly this program

[15:20] the spot zoning is an illegal

[15:20] helps young people see what

[15:21] is possible for their future

[15:24] whether that's college or a

[15:24] skilled trade entrepreneurship

[15:25] or entering the workforce.

[15:27] use of zoning to the owner's

[15:28] and this next cohort will teach

[15:29] them how to make their ideas a

[15:30] benefit but it's very antifa

[15:31] of planned zoning.

[15:32] reality continued investment in

[15:32] an excuse me continued

[15:35] this is an exception to create

[15:35] investment in programs like the

[15:36] pathways program helps us build

[15:37] a stronger workforce and safer

[15:39] a pedestrian centric location

[15:40] communities and broader future

[15:40] for knoxville's youth.

[15:43] thank you for your support.

[15:43] thank you.

[15:43] in an auto centric area because

[15:46] there's one person signed up to

[15:47] it's virtuous carrycot.

[15:47] speak in opposition to item

[15:48] I've met with some of those

[15:51] twelve of matthew robinson.

[15:51] individuals.

[15:52] mr. Robinson, if you could come

[15:52] I have certain questions about

[15:55] to the podium state your name

[15:55] some of it I would say that

[15:55] and address for the record and

[15:56] you'll have up to three minutes

[15:58] to address council.

[15:58] they are very honest in their

[15:59] >> hello my name is matthew

[15:59] robinson.

[15:59] concern for the the persons

[16:03] that they want to provide this

[16:03] I am executive director knox.

[16:03] service to.

[16:06] my address is forty eight

[16:07] however that virtuous approach

[16:07] twenty fountain view wait three

[16:08] seven nine one eight and to

[16:10] start I really didn't know I

[16:11] is not address the safety

[16:11] signed up to speak in

[16:14] opposition so apologies but I

[16:14] concerns of pedestrians

[16:15] would like to start off by

[16:15] is going across the street

[16:18] saying I don't have any

[16:18] where there are no sidewalks,

[16:19] objections to these

[16:19] organizations getting this

[16:21] no sod, no other protective

[16:21] grant.

[16:23] I just want to know if there's

[16:23] a system that can be

[16:25] implemented to better notify

[16:25] services that are available to

[16:26] nonprofits that have already

[16:27] contributed and are currently

[16:29] pedestrians.

[16:29] contributing to violence

[16:30] interruption and they have

[16:30] >> I was driving on merchants

[16:31] proven track records and

[16:33] success in this line of work.

[16:34] drive a week ago and had a

[16:34] I understand that these things

[16:35] gentleman step out in front

[16:37] are posted on the city's

[16:38] website but there's also no

[16:38] of me at the end of the

[16:39] sidewalk because the right hand

[16:41] indication to my knowledge when

[16:42] that is until it happens.

[16:42] side merchants drive does not

[16:44] I also know that not too long

[16:45] ago there was tensions between

[16:46] going north does not is not a

[16:46] continuous sidewalk.

[16:48] or previous executive director

[16:49] you never looked left.

[16:50] you never looked right.

[16:51] you just stepped right in front

[16:52] and although we we appreciate

[16:52] of my car.

[16:53] his efforts and contributions

[16:54] I had to stop and wait for the

[16:56] to turn up knocks, we are under

[16:57] new management so he no longer

[16:57] traffic go around him and me

[16:57] has any involvement with our

[16:57] endeavors.

[16:58] before I could proceed around

[17:00] we also know that there are

[17:01] certain nonprofit that gets a

[17:01] him just a few feet

[17:03] heads up when the grant process

[17:05] opens and we just wanted to

[17:05] of difference and I would have

[17:05] hit this guy.

[17:06] this is what we're talking

[17:07] know we just wanted to know if

[17:08] the organizations that are

[17:09] about.

[17:11] still active and we are known

[17:11] in this kind of work in

[17:12] particular could be included

[17:12] the staff report relied upon

[17:15] when that happens.

[17:15] thank you.

[17:16] imu see redevelopment of vacant

[17:18] thank you council members that

[17:19] concludes people who have

[17:19] or largely vacant shopping

[17:20] centers within two hundred feet

[17:21] signed up to speak to this

[17:22] council member.

[17:23] adams, thank you.

[17:24] of this building as a brand new

[17:25] firestone that was constructed

[17:26] I want to say a special thanks

[17:27] to the folks who came to speak.

[17:28] for obviously several million

[17:30] um, I've had direct experience

[17:30] dollars.

[17:33] with the two bikes program um

[17:34] several use that I know have

[17:37] gone through that and it truly

[17:38] is a changing changing force to

[17:38] this is not a dying shopping

[17:41] provide that kind of confidence

[17:41] center and mr. Morrison in his

[17:43] in all the ways that perfusing

[17:45] spoke to I see the

[17:46] transformation that happens

[17:46] appeal laid out that he did not

[17:48] there and it's a group that I

[17:49] think that does excellent work

[17:50] appreciate that his clinton

[17:53] with that support money I also

[17:54] want to say thank you to the

[17:54] plaza was designated as a

[17:54] bottom.

[17:55] you've got the best newsletter

[17:56] out there.

[17:57] vacant are largely vacant

[17:57] you you do really amazing

[17:58] shopping center.

[18:01] things with the bookshop and

[18:02] I'm I'm really excited about

[18:02] it's vibrant, it's healthy but

[18:05] it does have problems

[18:05] what you can do with these

[18:05] funds.

[18:06] created in part by the

[18:08] um, there's so many good

[18:09] organizations here.

[18:09] individual who are willing to

[18:12] um, I get to enjoy the drums up

[18:13] go into the food city and steal

[18:13] guns down most recently at the

[18:13] to such an extent.

[18:16] they have an officer there

[18:17] ymca ywca race against racism,

[18:18] you know, bringing all these

[18:21] people who just run a race back

[18:22] to their feet and really

[18:24] bringing community together.

[18:25] every evening under the code,

[18:25] there's so many good things

[18:26] the special the evidence

[18:28] here and I want to say thank

[18:29] you to all the organizations

[18:29] presented they were supposed to

[18:31] doing this work to try to help

[18:32] youth and show youth different

[18:33] evaluate actual evidence.

[18:34] none of that is attached to any

[18:36] of this application.

[18:36] ways and would like to make a

[18:39] there is no development consett

[18:40] operation and this is the

[18:44] virtual signaling that I'm

[18:48] talking about the application

[18:52] for a special service center.

[18:56] >> the application for the

[18:56] special service center

[18:57] is telling us that it's

[18:57] motion to approve second, ok,

[18:58] we did have that already and

[18:59] now we have it again.

[19:00] thank you council member

[19:00] thomas.

[19:00] supposed to be consistent with

[19:01] >> yes.

[19:01] adopted plans.

[19:02] I want you to give a shout out

[19:03] to my friends at two bikes as

[19:03] well.

[19:04] I'm a frequenter of office down

[19:04] in the old city.

[19:05] it's been a place or any time

[19:06] I'm downtown and my tires need

[19:07] well, not inure to any ah

[19:07] everything up a little bit

[19:08] there they will do it just

[19:08] distract from the environment

[19:08] right to the tee and also they

[19:09] even given me a good venue for

[19:10] spare parts like occasionally I

[19:11] run in tyvi circles that aren't

[19:11] used.

[19:12] congestion weather impacts.

[19:13] I had about four at one time I

[19:13] all of this is set out in

[19:15] article sixteen dash to dash f

[19:17] donated two of them to the two

[19:19] dash to f page 370 six and more

[19:21] bikes for parks and they do a

[19:22] really good service and one

[19:23] important underline how this

[19:24] thing I've tried to think once

[19:25] is maybe the best invention

[19:29] of humankind and it would hard

[19:30] to it'd be hard to think that a

[19:31] is the the corruption of virtue

[19:33] basic goal is not it would

[19:34] definitely be in the running

[19:35] is that there were application

[19:36] ins for permits that have been

[19:37] you think about a bicycle, it's

[19:37] all good.

[19:39] reviewed and approved already

[19:40] you know, low cost

[19:43] in violation of section sixteen

[19:44] transportation exercise claim

[19:45] for the environment and two

[19:48] twelve b six there was and

[19:49] bikes is doing all that stuff

[19:49] and they're training people to

[19:50] work on their bikes.

[19:50] of the activa appeal there were

[19:51] no permits that are authorized

[19:52] they're giving low cost bikes

[19:53] to people.

[19:54] so I just wanted to give them a

[19:55] to be reached be issued out and

[19:56] shout out and let them know

[19:57] that they were really

[19:57] appreciated.

[19:58] the city has done it.

[19:59] ceo was issued on 30th

[20:00] thank you.

[20:02] of january.

[20:02] council member grant.

[20:03] that's a certificate

[20:06] of occupancy is not allowed

[20:07] thank you, mayor.

[20:10] under the provisions of this

[20:10] I think I will be myself if I

[20:11] didn't speak to some things

[20:12] that I feel like a few of us up

[20:14] code in chapter sixteen there

[20:14] here thinking I want to start

[20:15] is no doubt that they might be

[20:16] doing right but there's also no

[20:18] by saying last thursday I had

[20:18] doubt that every single part

[20:21] an opportunity to meet with

[20:22] crosslin who is the audit

[20:22] of the ordinance designed to

[20:23] protect the public in the

[20:23] pedestrian traffic of that

[20:25] committee that the city has

[20:26] facility are ignored for

[20:29] entrusted to to do the city's

[20:29] audit.

[20:30] virtuous reasons.

[20:30] our first audit committee

[20:33] meeting was february 18th and

[20:34] this body needs to revoke and

[20:37] there were some findings

[20:37] obviously some findings and

[20:38] return it back to the planning

[20:38] commission.

[20:40] some things that we need to fix

[20:41] .

[20:42] but after having that

[20:42] they were humbled and desire to

[20:45] conversation with mr. Hunter

[20:46] do good but in the doing

[20:47] of good you can destroy the law

[20:49] last thursday, I have to be

[20:50] and the law was developed to

[20:51] protect the people that are

[20:52] honest the fact that we're

[20:53] sitting here today and we are

[20:54] actually supposed to be served.

[20:55] trying to prove another round

[20:55] when asked what are these

[20:59] people going to do when the

[20:59] building closes?

[21:00] of grants after auditor said

[21:02] well they go back to wherever

[21:03] that you know and I'm quoting

[21:03] they are at.

[21:04] in other words they filter

[21:04] right that money awarded to

[21:06] through my residential

[21:07] organizations did not meet one

[21:08] or more established eligibility

[21:10] community to wherever they

[21:11] requirements due to

[21:11] insufficient verification and

[21:14] might have been drawn from and

[21:14] according to their own analysis

[21:15] documentation review procedures

[21:15] .

[21:16] they were also quoted saying

[21:18] they're looking at eighty

[21:18] that there was a gatekeeper

[21:18] people on sundays.

[21:19] right.

[21:19] with both our grant and

[21:22] procurement process.

[21:23] and we do not know what the

[21:25] traffic is going to be but the

[21:26] >> I don't have much time only

[21:26] point being that all of it

[21:27] have about three minutes.

[21:28] >> but I want to encourage the

[21:29] is auto centric.

[21:30] gary is going to be pedestrian

[21:30] public to go to knoxville

[21:31] community meetings, youtube and

[21:34] centric with no transport.

[21:34] watch the section of the

[21:35] february 17th meeting.

[21:35] I would like to reserve the

[21:37] remainder of my time to be able

[21:39] thirty seven minutes and thirty

[21:39] eight seconds to fifty seven

[21:40] minutes and two seconds and

[21:41] to respond to anything from

[21:41] it's about fifteen minute

[21:42] window but it tells you

[21:42] that might be raised that I'm

[21:45] everything you need to know

[21:46] about the base of my argument

[21:46] mr. Hamilton, you can use the

[21:47] rest of your time now but at

[21:48] the rebuttal it'll just be two

[21:49] minutes.

[21:49] here tonight during that

[21:50] meeting with councilwoman adams

[21:53] and amelia parker they raise

[21:54] very serious and valid concerns

[21:56] thank you.

[21:56] about the grant process.

[21:57] this body has a responsibility

[22:00] it was also stated by miss

[22:01] buuck and also interpreted that

[22:04] to uphold the law it enacted.

[22:04] we wouldn't see grant in front

[22:08] >> you start making excel to

[22:08] of us until november I believe

[22:12] karen adams you know you raised

[22:12] the degree that I've laid out

[22:13] you mentioned making sure that

[22:13] we can support these

[22:15] then your ordinance has no real

[22:16] value as long as we have a

[22:16] organizations now due to the

[22:17] time constraint and it was I

[22:19] virtuous reason this body

[22:20] was under the impression that

[22:21] we were having to november to

[22:23] fix our grant process when we

[22:24] is not going to be picking up

[22:24] the people that might be hit on

[22:27] that road in the middle of the

[22:27] actually look at the

[22:28] applications before us today

[22:28] night because they're hanging

[22:30] they're dated for november in

[22:32] out around a place where they

[22:34] december of last year.

[22:35] >> when we go back to that

[22:35] can't there is no sidewalks.

[22:36] they're going to be on the

[22:38] february 17th meeting aks

[22:39] ourselves, why wasn't it

[22:39] street there are no crosswalks.

[22:40] >> this city's not paying for a

[22:43] mentioned that in thirty more

[22:43] new crosswalk at that location.

[22:43] days we would have another

[22:45] round of grant grant in front

[22:46] >> where's the where's the

[22:47] petition for one hundred

[22:48] thousand dollars and that's a

[22:49] of us by why wasn't that

[22:51] low estimate for the cost of an

[22:52] mentioned during that time?

[22:53] >> nobody up here mentioned it

[22:54] right.

[22:54] active sidewalk.

[22:55] the busses don't help either.

[22:56] I know a lot of us we didn't

[22:57] know that would have been the

[22:58] why they're more than a block

[23:01] perfect time to say hey by the

[23:02] way, we are going to have

[23:02] another round of grants in

[23:04] front of you guys in thirty

[23:08] days that wasn't mentioned.

[23:09] >> we can't ask questions about

[23:12] things if we don't know they're

[23:12] coming.

[23:13] we can ask questions about

[23:16] things because we don't get

[23:17] these things into the wednesday

[23:19] before.

[23:19] away from this building there

[23:19] right.

[23:20] are two bus stops.

[23:21] we're not included in the grant

[23:21] the sidewalks go up to merchant

[23:21] drive.

[23:22] they do not go towards the

[23:23] intersection which is present

[23:24] process until after the fact

[23:24] and oftentimes it feels like

[23:25] when asked who did they talk

[23:26] to, kirkup said they spoke with

[23:27] mr. Mundy and he objected.

[23:28] these things were bundled up

[23:28] because two bikes amazing.

[23:28] morris, who is an appellant in

[23:29] this project or in this matter

[23:31] but I'm amazed and I can agree

[23:32] with all all the organizations

[23:33] was not discussed with the

[23:35] but not every organization.

[23:36] all here is great and I have

[23:36] checkmark on the form that they

[23:37] intended to talk to people was

[23:39] personal experience.

[23:39] the community has experience

[23:40] fulfilled by simply speaking to

[23:40] and often times there's these

[23:42] these silent private

[23:43] conversations that we want to

[23:44] one property owner next door.

[23:45] we're talking about the I

[23:46] have behind the scenes.

[23:47] >> but when we get on front

[23:48] street we don't want to have

[23:48] believe system that they could

[23:51] right in order for things to

[23:51] change the same conversations

[23:52] ignore communication with the

[23:53] neighborhood they wanted to

[23:54] and more conversations that

[23:55] we're having, we need to be

[23:56] communicate after they had

[23:57] able to have them in front

[23:58] of the community and that's

[23:59] going to that's going to create

[24:00] already had this heard.

[24:01] some type of uncomfort at

[24:01] times.

[24:02] but we have to understand that

[24:03] this is a kind of conduct that

[24:03] we have to have these

[24:05] conversations if you're

[24:07] none of you should support.

[24:08] this is the kind of conduct

[24:09] thinking about the long term

[24:10] impact and engaging with the

[24:11] that causes neighborhoods to

[24:12] believe that there are winners

[24:13] youth and engaging with high

[24:13] risk youth.

[24:14] right.

[24:16] and losers and they are the

[24:18] we have to do this the right

[24:18] way.

[24:19] losers.

[24:19] we've been here the last

[24:21] council has been and instead

[24:23] it is this body's obligation,

[24:25] of sitting everybody down not

[24:25] attending the different

[24:26] this body's obligation to

[24:29] organizations against each

[24:30] other and creating a real

[24:30] refuse to allow for all

[24:31] process that includes all the

[24:33] great organization that are out

[24:34] of these misconduct events.

[24:34] here doing the work, we

[24:35] there is no way there's

[24:36] continue to pick and choose.

[24:37] we continue to isolate the

[24:38] certificate of occupancy can be

[24:39] issued without somebody in the

[24:40] different organizations and not

[24:41] include them in the process.

[24:42] whole system knowing and I'm

[24:43] not even talking about the

[24:44] I was given the grant committee

[24:45] which I definitely appreciate

[24:46] effort to return the fees that

[24:47] were paid.

[24:48] receiving that today in just

[24:49] four members who make the

[24:49] it was always signed off by

[24:50] several different individuals

[24:51] decision.

[24:52] ginny patterson who's with

[24:55] knoxville utility board former

[24:56] director of the education and

[24:56] youth services with the

[24:57] in a proper sequence that is so

[24:59] national urban league michael

[25:00] johnson who's with you

[25:01] disrespectful of the ability

[25:03] foundation ramia miller

[25:04] university of tennessee student

[25:05] for us to go to to this body

[25:07] and samantha riddick who is the

[25:08] executive assistant for the

[25:08] office community and.

[25:09] and yet it was done.

[25:11] these are the four individuals

[25:12] who sit on the grant committee

[25:12] thank you.

[25:13] thank you.

[25:14] now I'd like to invite

[25:14] for grant.

[25:15] I'm going to move on to one

[25:16] of your colleagues and you can

[25:17] representative from the

[25:18] appellee to please approach the

[25:19] return to your comments after I

[25:21] podium and as you come to the

[25:22] podium and start speaking,

[25:22] think your time is up.

[25:23] >> I think council vice mayor

[25:25] please state your name and

[25:25] address for the record.

[25:26] if you get my next thank you.

[25:27] and just to respond to what

[25:27] just wait till we get the clock

[25:30] councilman grant said, yes,

[25:33] there were findings and yes,

[25:34] there are things that have to

[25:37] be dealt with and I appreciate

[25:38] the fact that you are speaking

[25:39] restarted.

[25:40] there we go.

[25:40] ok, please proceed.

[25:41] to to that tonight.

[25:43] I will say that tonight and you

[25:44] thanks mary catherine wormsley

[25:44] did not say you don't want to

[25:44] one twenty eight north north

[25:45] shore drive knoxville,

[25:46] approve these but I will say

[25:46] tennessee.

[25:47] I'm a current advisory board

[25:49] that tonight all these people

[25:50] member of haircut's in the

[25:50] have been in the grant process

[25:51] previous board president and I

[25:54] before the findings came out

[25:54] also serve as a ceo and broker

[25:55] of the company who owns fifty

[25:55] two hundred clinton highway.

[25:56] and before the audit committee

[25:57] heard them and there is a

[25:58] I'm here respectfully

[25:59] requesting counsel deny the

[26:00] process in place to address

[26:02] appeal to overturn a unanimous

[26:03] decision made by knoxville knox

[26:04] those issues and the audit

[26:05] committee will audit the new

[26:05] county planning to grain

[26:06] especially use application for

[26:09] processes as we go forward the

[26:09] haircut's to operate as a

[26:10] social service provider on

[26:10] klint highway.

[26:11] next round.

[26:12] but I do plan to support the

[26:13] thank you mayor and city

[26:14] council members for allowing me

[26:16] ones tonight because those

[26:17] folks were following the

[26:18] to speak and thank you to the

[26:18] attendees who are here in

[26:19] respect to this agenda item.

[26:20] process whether we agree with

[26:21] the process or not, these

[26:22] I want to address the comments

[26:23] by our opposition that this

[26:24] nonprofits are following the

[26:25] process that the city had in

[26:25] location is not suitable for

[26:26] this use based on concerns for

[26:28] place and I appreciate the

[26:29] vehicular and pedestrian

[26:29] safety.

[26:30] this location is approximately

[26:32] concern about making more

[26:32] effort for everybody to know

[26:34] one hundred steps from a bus

[26:35] about them.

[26:36] I also run a nonprofit, you

[26:37] stop on top of its proximity to

[26:38] public transportation.

[26:40] know, unless we check a lot

[26:41] we serve a transient population

[26:41] of places we don't know what

[26:42] who know how to navigate the

[26:44] grants are being offered.

[26:44] situation.

[26:45] >> our intention is to serve

[26:46] those who are already in this

[26:47] so I understand that concern

[26:49] area the people who regularly

[26:51] but I just was going to say

[26:52] that I intend to support these

[26:52] walk up and down these streets

[26:53] through and around this

[26:54] because these are worthwhile

[26:56] property and who are receiving

[26:57] limited to no help from this

[26:58] organizations as are others who

[26:59] did not get grants or did not

[26:59] apply.

[27:00] community.

[27:01] I also want to briefly speak on

[27:03] but I don't want us to somehow

[27:04] how capex will operate out this

[27:04] building.

[27:05] I hear continuous concerns and

[27:07] not feel comfortable doing

[27:09] statements that this will be a

[27:10] homeless shelter or will turn

[27:11] these findings.

[27:12] is that somebody some of it

[27:12] into a homeless camp.

[27:13] this is not a correct

[27:15] is a paperwork tom thing and it

[27:15] should not happen.

[27:16] description of this faith based

[27:16] nonprofit.

[27:18] this is a day center that

[27:18] it should not happen.

[27:19] but I don't want to punish

[27:20] provides resources to help

[27:21] clients move forward from their

[27:22] these people tonight for doing

[27:23] current situation.

[27:23] the process that the city laid

[27:24] this facility will receive

[27:24] out before it and it went

[27:27] through the current grant

[27:27] clients during the day on

[27:27] process.

[27:28] tuesdays, fridays and sundays

[27:28] we may or may not like the

[27:31] people that sit on the grant

[27:31] and as staff primarily by

[27:31] review committee but city

[27:32] volunteers between four and

[27:33] eight people in two full time

[27:35] council has never had a part in

[27:36] staff members we estimate a

[27:36] maximum amount of twenty eight

[27:38] being on knowing who the

[27:38] evaluators were.

[27:40] people inside the building at

[27:40] any given time.

[27:42] that's up for discussion as

[27:43] well, mr. Grant, if you want to

[27:43] have that.

[27:44] no individuals will stay the

[27:45] night in the past ten years

[27:46] but tonight I just plan to go

[27:47] ahead and support these as per

[27:49] kiritsis evolved and we will

[27:49] continue to evolve.

[27:50] the just as a point

[27:50] of information.

[27:52] we are moving from william

[27:53] street located in the mission

[27:53] we are not waiting that future

[27:54] grant cycles to take corrective

[27:55] action.

[27:55] district to clinton highway to

[27:56] not only taylor services but to

[27:57] we've already taken corrective

[27:58] action and these grantees have

[28:00] serve the large population

[28:01] of the corrective action has

[28:01] of the house already in that

[28:01] community.

[28:02] been done they qualify or meet

[28:04] our intention clinton highway

[28:05] the criteria for the state or

[28:06] is to act as a hub to reduce

[28:06] the new block and all the

[28:09] things so we're not waiting to

[28:09] homelessness, not to promote or

[28:09] take corrective action.

[28:12] we've already done that and

[28:12] to add to it haircut's staff,

[28:13] volunteers, board of directors

[28:13] also we are very committed to

[28:15] having an open transparent

[28:16] process and this was publicly

[28:16] have spent a decade of learning

[28:17] what works.

[28:19] noticed these dollars were

[28:20] approved in the current fiscal

[28:20] this facility is modeled after

[28:21] the day center in johnson city

[28:24] year and you we also are going

[28:24] which is operated by executes

[28:25] college of nursing and has been

[28:28] to be at your suggestion having

[28:28] in existence since 1980.

[28:29] a workshop all about grants on

[28:29] one care cuts assist clients

[28:32] april twenty I believe and

[28:32] with obtaining tennessee state

[28:33] ids birth certificates both in

[28:35] and out of state.

[28:36] welcome your input on how we

[28:36] we act as a safe and secure

[28:36] can streamline I agree I'd

[28:39] mailing address for our clients

[28:39] rather have all the grants you

[28:40] haircuts, clean clothing and

[28:40] are not spread out necessarily.

[28:41] I think there's a lot

[28:42] of suggestions that we can hear

[28:43] laundry facilities are offered

[28:44] to those in need.

[28:44] from you all that can help us

[28:45] improve the process.

[28:45] we refer to numerous community

[28:47] I do hope you approve us

[28:48] providers and partners who

[28:48] tonight because our processes

[28:48] insist with who assist with

[28:51] may need improvements and

[28:52] housing, mental health and

[28:52] tweaking but you know these

[28:52] substance abuse programs.

[28:56] people have followed the rules

[28:56] church services, bible studies

[28:57] as we set forth and happened

[28:57] and prayer services are held on

[28:59] before many of you became, you

[28:59] site and we offer a computer

[28:59] know, joint council.

[29:00] lab and phone services during

[29:01] and so we want to hear your

[29:03] the day along with a variety

[29:04] of other ways to serve our own

[29:04] house.

[29:07] neighbors I would like to

[29:07] mention these services would be

[29:10] allowed in the zoning without a

[29:11] special use permit if we were

[29:15] offering the same service to

[29:18] people that were not labeled as

[29:19] an housed place.

[29:21] thoughts on how to keep

[29:21] improving them on april

[29:21] >> consider this for a moment.

[29:22] twenty third and you know

[29:23] before that as well.

[29:23] >> if I were to open an office

[29:24] but I'll turn it back over to

[29:24] council member health council

[29:25] for someone to come apply for a

[29:25] member parker thank you mayor.

[29:26] birth certificate it would be

[29:27] I did want to echo, um, some

[29:27] allowed if I was to open a

[29:28] issues raised by councilman

[29:29] grant because I was also at

[29:30] laundromat for someone to do

[29:30] that audit committee meeting

[29:30] their laundry it would be

[29:31] and not only concerned about

[29:33] the findings in the audit but

[29:34] allowed if I was to open a hair

[29:34] the discussion around the type

[29:34] salon it would be allowed.

[29:38] I am here today because by

[29:38] of culture that we need to

[29:41] definition a social service

[29:42] center explicitly defines

[29:45] build in our city to address

[29:45] people transitioning from

[29:46] homelessness and therefore

[29:48] triggers special use review

[29:48] these issues and it wasn't just

[29:49] sound.

[29:49] about having new policies in

[29:50] this definition comes with a

[29:53] certain stigma attached to it

[29:53] place but about the willingness

[29:56] if that is not a pure form

[29:56] to truly be transparent about

[29:57] of discrimination I do not know

[29:58] those policies and even in that

[30:00] what is.

[30:01] the people we serve in our

[30:01] meeting, you know, when we were

[30:04] community are often in the

[30:05] throes of the loneliest,

[30:05] discussing, um, you know, the

[30:08] hardest points in their life.

[30:08] city's current policies around

[30:09] some struggle with addiction,

[30:09] grants for nonprofits and

[30:10] some struggle with mental

[30:11] illness.

[30:12] some may have missed a paycheck

[30:13] and lost their place to live

[30:15] whether you know, the cash app

[30:16] but these are human beings.

[30:16] could be used as a payment,

[30:19] the reality is homelessness

[30:20] those policies are not, you

[30:21] doesn't just exist within a one

[30:24] know, given over immediately

[30:24] block radius of salvation army

[30:24] or other service providers.

[30:25] and that was raised as a

[30:28] concern of the auditors.

[30:28] the reality is that it affects

[30:28] every part of our community

[30:31] including clinton highway.

[30:31] we must get to a point to

[30:32] none of our opposition denied

[30:33] that there was a large

[30:35] councilman grant's point where

[30:36] population one house already in

[30:36] we can discuss these issues

[30:37] that area limiting resources

[30:39] and outlying areas because of a

[30:40] openly and transparent and have

[30:41] a clear understanding of what

[30:42] not in my backyard mindset

[30:43] is illogical.

[30:44] the only way to help this

[30:44] policies we have in place for

[30:47] these, uh, grants and how

[30:47] situation is to meet those

[30:48] experiencing the struggle where

[30:51] they are both in location and

[30:51] different organizations are

[30:52] learning about them or how much

[30:54] by creating trust.

[30:55] >> this opposition is built on

[30:56] notice are they given is at the

[30:56] fear, fear of the attraction

[30:57] same time of year every year

[30:59] and increasing the already

[30:59] that the grants are made

[30:59] existing problem doing nothing

[30:59] available?

[31:03] because we are fearful is not

[31:03] I still have questions around

[31:04] those and uh I believe those

[31:05] the right approach limiting

[31:06] outreach efforts will result in

[31:07] are concerns but that should be

[31:07] addressed.

[31:09] watching the existing situation

[31:10] multiply as a community we

[31:10] >> I also had another question

[31:12] about how the funds can be used

[31:14] should not fear adding humane

[31:15] thing by taking care of our

[31:15] and this is a question raised

[31:16] at the budget retreat but I

[31:17] underserved and unhealthy

[31:18] neighbors especially when those

[31:19] still have not had answer to

[31:19] it.

[31:21] caring for them have decade

[31:22] of experience.

[31:22] but I'm concerned about this uh

[31:22] a multitude of community

[31:23] , identifier for opportunity

[31:25] support and partnership and

[31:26] countless success stories

[31:26] behind them.

[31:29] youth that uh says must must be

[31:30] I will not ask my friends to

[31:30] a member of or associated with

[31:31] stand out of privacy that are

[31:33] here today but I have many here

[31:34] an active crew group or gang.

[31:34] and support that clearcuts has

[31:37] helped move forward from

[31:38] and for me that can mean so

[31:38] homelessness while so many see

[31:38] many things.

[31:41] fear let's change our mindset

[31:41] I'm hoping to get a clarity

[31:42] from the city on how you are

[31:44] to see opportunity.

[31:45] >> let's change our actions to

[31:46] defining an active group or

[31:49] alter the course of another

[31:49] human being's life.

[31:50] gang member buuck yeah.

[31:52] thank you for your time

[31:53] attention.

[31:53] I respectfully request that you

[31:54] and I think law enforcement

[31:55] partners can give a little more

[31:56] deny this appeal and hold

[31:56] knoxville knox county's

[31:58] definition around the

[31:58] definition of the firm

[31:59] definition of a crew for gang

[32:02] but I want to clarify that that

[32:03] unanimous decision of support

[32:05] is not a requirement for

[32:05] identification as an

[32:06] opportunity you have there are

[32:07] greeting.

[32:08] I'm chuck sarnie.

[32:09] several indicators that can be

[32:09] I'm a knox county general

[32:09] indicators for opportunity

[32:09] youth.

[32:12] sessions judge on the

[32:13] recovery court judge in knox

[32:14] one of them is associate with

[32:15] their car with a crew group or

[32:15] county.

[32:16] I started the veterans

[32:17] gang in some folks self

[32:19] treatment court and I recently

[32:20] started with the help of other

[32:20] identify that way another

[32:21] is disconnection from school or

[32:23] stakeholders our mental health

[32:23] court in knox county.

[32:25] work having been a crime victim

[32:26] let me take a second to say

[32:28] howdy to so many friends that I

[32:29] or I'm a family friend and so

[32:30] it's only one indicator but

[32:31] have known on this and say how

[32:32] even to the folks who are

[32:33] I'll pass off to thank you to

[32:34] just because I have limited

[32:35] opposing mr. Hamilton's been a

[32:36] time chief.

[32:36] good friend for a long time.

[32:39] he's a nice fellow but I think

[32:40] well could you speak to how law

[32:40] enforcement defines those

[32:44] things if or I apologize could

[32:46] he's wrong.

[32:47] you repeat the question how do

[32:48] you define an active crew group

[32:50] you know, the people that mr.

[32:50] hamilton might potentially

[32:51] or gang so how we define a gang

[32:54] rotten over with his car.

[32:54] as a group of people that are

[32:55] operate together to commit to

[32:56] commit crimes or engage in

[32:58] they're out there already.

[32:59] criminal activity and what's an

[33:02] there are unannounced neighbors

[33:02] .

[33:02] active group, a group of people

[33:03] who collectively work together

[33:06] they're there to be honest with

[33:06] you.

[33:07] a crew, a crew gang it's always

[33:07] the same thing.

[33:07] I might run over one of them

[33:08] it's a group of people who

[33:10] and I had to my house and I'm

[33:11] collectively work together to

[33:12] commit a criminal act criminal

[33:14] really sorry about that but I

[33:15] don't think we're going to be

[33:15] activity so that the the group

[33:17] able to chase these folks by

[33:21] doing something at coney island

[33:22] are gang what have been found

[33:25] criminally connected to a crime

[33:26] that actual gang will be

[33:29] connected to a crime in our

[33:33] city.

[33:33] for what purpose?

[33:37] I don't understand what you're

[33:37] asking for the purpose of this

[33:38] grant program but also for a

[33:41] project see we are p.l.c. Has

[33:42] and punitive to force them to

[33:43] relocate to somewhere else the

[33:44] way to help folks who are

[33:45] nothing to do with gang

[33:45] experiencing homelessness is to

[33:46] take one human being who has

[33:47] dignity and worth and help them

[33:48] not be homeless.

[33:49] and once you do that then you

[33:49] activity for I will follow up

[33:50] have the opportunity to try and

[33:50] with you with the budget

[33:51] repeat the experiment.

[33:53] I don't want to admit this but

[33:53] retreat conversation that's

[33:54] when this first came up was

[33:55] I guess I have to I don't think

[33:56] I have the compassion to

[33:57] around discussion of project

[33:59] actually interact with a human

[34:00] being who might scare me a

[34:01] zones and the um discussion

[34:03] little bit, who might be

[34:04] suffering from homelessness or

[34:04] of uh how these opportunity

[34:07] addiction or mental illness.

[34:08] youth were being identified and

[34:09] in our grant packet we have

[34:11] but I know who has that kind

[34:12] this definition of a member

[34:12] of compassion and who has done

[34:13] of our associate it with an

[34:14] it multiple times martillo

[34:16] active crew group or gang tlc.

[34:17] the tlc is a place we play

[34:19] rubeo, the leader of care cuts

[34:21] space strategy b may be able to

[34:21] confuse with some of the

[34:22] and I know that those wonderful

[34:22] nomenclature here but tlc is a

[34:23] volunteers that care cuts have

[34:23] place based strategy.

[34:26] helped lots of people not be

[34:27] it is nothing to do with

[34:28] individual gangs or conduct an

[34:28] individual gang members to

[34:29] homeless any longer, including

[34:30] but not limited to helping them

[34:31] crimes.

[34:32] ok, thank you miss parker.

[34:33] we'll go to some of your

[34:34] get cleaned up haircut, helping

[34:35] them get their driver's

[34:35] colleagues.

[34:36] lights are on and can come back

[34:36] to you.

[34:37] licenses and birth certificates

[34:39] yeah my my time is up but I

[34:39] so they can get jobs so they

[34:40] just need an answer to the

[34:42] can get housing the way we need

[34:43] question um and it doesn't have

[34:44] to happen at this time if it

[34:46] is simply a group

[34:46] to help this problem is help

[34:46] of individuals engaged in

[34:47] criminal activity.

[34:47] one person who has dignity and

[34:50] we're and then repeat that

[34:51] my next question would be

[34:52] is how do you know they're

[34:53] experiment.

[34:55] engaged in criminal activity?

[34:56] they've been convicted of a

[34:56] crime.

[34:56] thank you.

[34:57] >> the folks at haircuts have

[34:57] thank you, miss parker.

[34:58] done some wonderful things in

[34:58] the past and they're going to

[34:59] and just as of just a point

[35:00] of information, as miss

[35:01] do wonderful things for this

[35:02] community with your support,

[35:02] middlebrook said, that is not

[35:05] marty baker is one of the most

[35:06] unselfish and compassionate

[35:07] the only factor in how they

[35:08] decide how to which is the item

[35:09] persons I have ever had.

[35:10] she has the support of law

[35:11] enforcement in this community

[35:11] before the grants to help these

[35:11] youth.

[35:14] as a chief and she has the

[35:14] ok, so I think council member

[35:14] support of many other

[35:15] housley was next.

[35:17] nonprofits and agencies across

[35:17] this city.

[35:18] did you council member adams

[35:19] I'm proud to say that our

[35:21] mental health court which I

[35:22] thanks.

[35:24] started has worked with

[35:24] uh, I wanted to speak to

[35:25] councilman grant's um comments

[35:29] haircuts and some of our folks

[35:30] mainly about the idea that we

[35:30] are doing so out there even

[35:31] volunteering a care cuts to

[35:33] help homeless participants in

[35:33] expected not to see any more

[35:36] the mental health court.

[35:37] grants come before us until a

[35:37] listen, don't make this

[35:38] much later date which we were

[35:38] decision based on the fact that

[35:38] told at that february meeting.

[35:41] um, seeing what has happened

[35:43] already such a sweetheart do

[35:44] this because allowed care cuts

[35:45] since then to now I think there

[35:46] have been this is the third

[35:47] to use this facility in the way

[35:48] round of grants that we've seen

[35:48] .

[35:49] so I'm left to assume that my

[35:50] that they're planning because

[35:52] care cuts will help the un has

[35:52] question and comment at that

[35:54] to find housing.

[35:55] they'll help the unemployed to

[35:56] point was about that specific I

[35:57] cannot remember the name of it

[35:59] get jobs and care cuts will

[36:00] at this point but that specific

[36:00] opportunity and not the

[36:03] make this area safer, better,

[36:04] more compassionate for

[36:04] successive ones I'm agreeing

[36:05] with you in the sense that

[36:05] there are multiple

[36:07] everybody in the community.

[36:08] opportunities that it gets very

[36:09] confusing in terms of how much

[36:10] it's the right thing to do.

[36:12] money has an allocated to a

[36:13] particular entity.

[36:15] thank you for listening to me.

[36:16] when are the opportunities,

[36:16] thank you.

[36:16] when will there be future

[36:17] ben mallon's 550 west rain

[36:17] opportunities?

[36:17] street.

[36:18] I represent carrycot.

[36:19] there's no procedural defects

[36:19] in this.

[36:20] and I think that I would like

[36:22] the owner on the application

[36:22] the planning staff requires

[36:23] to make a request now for our

[36:23] april twenty third workshop

[36:27] owners on every application he

[36:27] that is focused on grants if it

[36:28] so he started the design center

[36:28] is at all possible to have a

[36:30] of table five point to design

[36:31] standards that he cited apply

[36:31] calendar that tells us or a

[36:32] little bit of course all of the

[36:34] to a different zone.

[36:35] opportunities that become

[36:35] they apply to the two zoni

[36:36] available to help us navigate

[36:36] which is different this one

[36:37] zoning there's different design

[36:38] standards that's that was just

[36:39] this I feel like that that

[36:40] would be a good tool to have

[36:42] inaccurate quote there's been a

[36:42] one other thing and this

[36:43] lot of talk about this not

[36:43] is because of what mr. Robinson

[36:45] being you.

[36:46] it's been auto centric area and

[36:46] said who spoke not against but

[36:48] a person of industry, an area

[36:49] when this new zoning ordinance

[36:50] was adopted in twenty twenty

[36:52] there are only two zones was

[36:53] allowed in the social services

[36:54] and that is to help alert the

[36:54] the non-profits and the

[36:56] s.h. One an institutional from

[36:57] so from the very beginning it

[36:57] agencies that can be eligible

[36:58] for these opportunities.

[37:00] was allowed for specifically

[37:01] called for in the highway

[37:01] there are probably many easy

[37:02] ways like a quick text alert

[37:05] commercial zone but beside the

[37:05] fact I said some pictures today

[37:05] like this coming in if you are

[37:06] this is one hundred and seventy

[37:06] an interested entity to be on

[37:08] feet away from where the

[37:09] sidewalk currently ends.

[37:09] that list, you get your your

[37:10] phone in there and it's an

[37:11] it's there at the bus station.

[37:12] we are leasing that space from

[37:13] alert not just an email but you

[37:14] have to go but a push

[37:15] technology that is sending

[37:15] bob monday there are

[37:16] twenty parking spaces that

[37:17] something there so people are

[37:17] more aware.

[37:18] I think those are the kinds

[37:19] of things that we do have the

[37:19] lease was submitted you know

[37:20] through peter errands to the

[37:21] law department.

[37:21] opportunity for.

[37:22] I just wanted to speak to your

[37:23] that's not part of the special

[37:24] use application but we do have

[37:25] concern council member adams.

[37:26] I've got good news.

[37:27] the parking that's required

[37:27] the grant calendar is already

[37:28] there and I understand I spoke

[37:29] on our website right now.

[37:30] you can google city

[37:30] to director brooks this morning

[37:31] of knoxville grant

[37:31] that there is contemplated

[37:32] future sidewalks in this area

[37:33] opportunities.

[37:34] it lists all the grants through

[37:35] all the different departments

[37:35] so that meets the the

[37:37] and we do our best to get these

[37:37] requirements to make it talked

[37:37] out.

[37:40] there's a lot of channels, a

[37:41] lot of noise, a lot of slop out

[37:42] about those vacant shopping

[37:43] center and what staff was

[37:44] there and sometimes just gets

[37:45] lost in the shuffle.

[37:46] really saying is this this

[37:46] but council members could be

[37:47] is an infill location because

[37:47] this bank has been

[37:49] great, you know, to amplify

[37:49] underutilized for years and now

[37:50] it can be put to good use

[37:52] those messages.

[37:53] instead of a greenfield

[37:53] development.

[37:53] we get them to you and then you

[37:54] and that was what was called

[37:54] get them out and that's nine

[37:56] more ways to hear those voices

[37:56] heard.

[37:57] out in policy eight point one

[37:57] but we do have a calendar it

[37:57] of the general plan.

[37:59] >> I know this is the boring

[37:59] is on also on our website we'll

[38:02] stuff but I need to get out in

[38:03] the record, make sure that that

[38:03] send we also send news releases

[38:04] to the media and anyone who

[38:05] you we make it clear that

[38:05] gets our news releases is aware

[38:06] planning staff did this right.

[38:07] of every grant opportunity in

[38:08] time for you know, when the

[38:09] applications are due, when

[38:10] they met they demonstrate how

[38:10] it meets all the applications.

[38:11] this is not zoning.

[38:11] there's opportunities to meet

[38:12] with staff to understand how to

[38:13] this isn't even a zoning

[38:14] application.

[38:15] zoning is a legislative action

[38:15] apply what the criteria are.

[38:16] and just so you know, at one

[38:16] where you're changing zoning.

[38:18] this is one we're not changing.

[38:20] point we had all the grants in

[38:20] you want a special use

[38:21] is allowed in that zone.

[38:21] one one you know, the community

[38:22] it just has to go through the

[38:23] agency grants is the main thing

[38:24] extra process which we've

[38:24] and that was all one time

[38:25] of year.

[38:25] already pointed out is a bit

[38:26] unfair because the only reason

[38:26] but one of the reasons that at

[38:27] the time it seemed like a good

[38:28] idea to have more opportunities

[38:29] we're going through the extra

[38:29] process is because the people

[38:30] people would come up in march

[38:31] we serve are housed everybody

[38:32] or july and be like hey, we we

[38:34] have this great program to help

[38:35] engage kids during the summer.

[38:35] else getting these services who

[38:36] have a home who are not

[38:38] but we didn't we didn't reply

[38:38] back in january.

[38:39] suffering from some type

[38:39] we didn't know about it because

[38:39] of disability or addiction can

[38:40] we're new or fledgling or

[38:40] get these services at this

[38:43] whatever and they we had no

[38:44] location permitted, go get the

[38:44] permit.

[38:45] and speaking of getting the

[38:46] grant programs that were

[38:47] available in those mid middle

[38:47] permit that was done because

[38:48] there was a permit issued

[38:50] you know, besides that one

[38:51] annual calendar.

[38:52] conditional upon the appeal

[38:52] process to the board.

[38:54] so it's a it's a classic like

[38:54] is there any appeals because

[38:55] today's solutions can be

[38:55] the law department and the

[38:58] director of zoning determined

[38:58] tomorrow's not sure problems

[38:58] just sort of areas

[38:59] that this was actually exempt

[38:59] of confusion.

[38:59] from zoning because of the

[39:02] so we we we want to keep

[39:02] religious freedom act

[39:03] improving and getting the word

[39:03] out and maybe consolidating

[39:03] of tennessee and rluipa of the

[39:06] that some would be better.

[39:06] federal counterpart that's not

[39:07] I'm not sure if consolidating

[39:07] before us today that just went

[39:08] is the right thing if it's

[39:10] through the bca earlier today

[39:11] imperfect then it may be all

[39:11] the bca upheld the planning

[39:11] of the above.

[39:13] directors or the zoning

[39:13] but I I recognize that there

[39:14] directors decision on that.

[39:14] are people who are not getting

[39:15] it may be before you in the

[39:18] future but we can't do anything

[39:19] the word that need to get the

[39:19] until this whole process

[39:19] word and that there is some

[39:22] is concluded so there's not

[39:22] anything nefarious or

[39:22] blurriness around all the

[39:22] underhanded.

[39:23] different opportunities.

[39:23] I didn't know about that

[39:26] we follow the rules every step

[39:26] of the way.

[39:31] staff laid out in detail why

[39:33] this meets all the requirements

[39:34] of the special use application.

[39:35] I expounded upon that in my

[39:38] letter that sent you all and

[39:39] I'm and I do appreciate the

[39:39] opportunity to meet with the

[39:40] neighbors.

[39:41] we met with them for about two

[39:42] hours and I think that there

[39:44] particular list so whoever can

[39:45] text it to me immediately I'll

[39:45] get it.

[39:45] were some things that were

[39:46] addressed that that were

[39:46] we'll send out to all council

[39:47] members on an email but I would

[39:48] beneficial and the biggest

[39:48] like that to be part of our

[39:49] part of our workshop just some

[39:49] thing is with regard to the

[39:49] education there in terms

[39:50] of what those opportunities

[39:50] are.

[39:51] it is probably going to send

[39:52] you guys the link.

[39:52] thank you.

[39:52] safety safety is our number one

[39:53] priority.

[39:53] I don't know who was next mr.

[39:54] we care about these people more

[39:54] thomas or mr. Grant.

[39:54] than anybody.

[39:55] mr. Thomas, you haven't spoken

[39:56] yet on this item back to you.

[39:56] simply a great news about the

[39:57] calendar.

[39:57] haircut's cares about these

[39:57] people more.

[39:58] it's good and I simply wanted

[39:58] they want to keep them safe.

[39:58] to say that councilperson

[39:59] grant's got a lot of experience

[40:00] they know how they were.

[40:00] in the nonprofit world and his

[40:01] points are well taken and I

[40:02] they are they know they help

[40:03] think we will have a really

[40:04] good opportunity at this

[40:05] provide them rides when needed.

[40:05] workshop which we did a poll

[40:08] among the council people and

[40:08] they help make sure they get

[40:09] there safely and they have a

[40:11] this one got a priority of of

[40:11] tremendous track record in

[40:12] action.

[40:12] their current location which

[40:15] is right across from one of the

[40:16] so I'm hoping that we can

[40:16] most popular pizza restaurants

[40:17] really get a lot of these

[40:17] in town and hasn't affected

[40:19] their business one bit.

[40:20] issues discussed and addressed

[40:20] at that workshop.

[40:20] it's not going to affect these

[40:21] but I just want to say I

[40:23] businesses one bit.

[40:24] appreciate your your bringing

[40:24] this to our attention and you

[40:27] mr. Hamilton's anecdotes only

[40:27] make some really good points

[40:28] go to show that these people

[40:28] and we look forward to kind

[40:29] of digging into this.

[40:32] thank you, council member

[40:32] grant.

[40:32] that need this help are already

[40:33] in the area and we're willing

[40:35] yeah, I mean I just want to

[40:35] to help them and we're willing

[40:36] take note I mean when you look

[40:36] to help them within the

[40:37] confines of the law and we've

[40:38] at the 13 grants ten of them

[40:39] are in my district.

[40:40] met use special use

[40:40] of application staff laid out

[40:41] you can rely on staff

[40:43] I want us to be mindful that

[40:44] recommendation as material

[40:44] ten of these organizations are

[40:44] evidence to support your

[40:44] decision.

[40:47] in district six and so you

[40:48] there's case law on that.

[40:49] so I'd ask that you uphold this

[40:49] decision.

[40:49] thank you.

[40:51] mr. Marlen's mr. Hamilton, you

[40:51] know, I'm not up here, you

[40:54] know, making statements just

[40:55] based off my own accord.

[40:56] right.

[40:56] there's community members who

[40:58] can come back to a podium.

[40:58] have these concerns, this

[40:59] community members who don't

[40:59] you may have up to two minutes

[41:02] have the voices or the platform

[41:03] or or maybe even tired

[41:05] for rebuttal.

[41:06] of showing up to council if

[41:07] they feel like it's going to be

[41:07] passed anyway.

[41:10] the question of fear there was

[41:11] those the unspoken truths that

[41:13] a person killed on avenue

[41:15] aren't said and so we have to

[41:15] do better.

[41:17] unless the couple of months ago

[41:17] I know I mean we keep saying

[41:18] I was connected to a homeless

[41:19] you know, we know we got to fix

[41:19] this.

[41:22] person stabbing motel six just

[41:22] we know we got to fix this and

[41:23] a couple of weeks ago right

[41:23] I know we do got to fix this

[41:24] but it's not fair to the

[41:25] there merchants drive again

[41:27] organizations who are on this

[41:28] you know, on these applications

[41:29] another homeless, a takeover

[41:29] who are receiving the funding

[41:30] of waffle house where the

[41:30] to have to feel like they're

[41:33] police had come and clear the

[41:34] being criticized because our

[41:35] processes aren't what they need

[41:35] area, take it back from one the

[41:35] to be.

[41:39] so to say, you know, they

[41:39] homeless people.

[41:39] expect it.

[41:40] >> there is an epidemic

[41:40] I mean that's another thing

[41:42] that I'm confused.

[41:43] it's like well we need to prove

[41:43] of crime.

[41:44] this because they're expecting

[41:45] it.

[41:47] how are they expecting it as

[41:47] council members?

[41:49] we haven't voted on it.

[41:50] we have to deal with that.

[41:51] what are we up here for if we

[41:54] don't have our own opinions and

[41:54] it is this claim that there's

[41:55] we can't take the feedback from

[41:55] going to be a twenty eight

[41:58] our constituents and bring it

[41:59] here, we have to do better.

[41:59] people a day and how they're

[42:00] going to park well, we know

[42:02] I mean I'm not opposing them.

[42:02] there's six parking spots.

[42:04] I've counted it and I don't

[42:05] I just want to make no that we

[42:06] understand that we have to do

[42:07] better and I would like to ask

[42:10] right now on the record are

[42:10] count twenty.

[42:11] there any grants coming before

[42:13] this issue of fear is real.

[42:14] us before april one either miss

[42:17] middlebrook, I think this

[42:17] it's not helpful when a city

[42:18] is the last from your

[42:18] department for this season.

[42:21] refuses to follow its own rules

[42:24] can you clarify so to clarify,

[42:25] I believe in the february

[42:26] doesn't change the analysis.

[42:28] meeting the question was about

[42:29] our grant making process and

[42:30] no ceo should have been issued

[42:30] because no permit should have

[42:32] whether or not there was

[42:33] been accepted according to

[42:33] another application period

[42:33] being opened and the answer to

[42:37] that was no, not until next

[42:37] sixteen twelve b six which

[42:38] year because as has been noted,

[42:38] quote no building permits

[42:40] should be issued until city

[42:41] the application for these came

[42:41] in between november and

[42:44] council acted on the appeal.

[42:45] december which was the block

[42:45] time period for those

[42:45] how are we supposed to trust

[42:46] applications.

[42:48] the review process is staggered

[42:49] any of the system if the system

[42:49] because we have multiple

[42:50] is not paying attention to its

[42:52] committees reviewing different

[42:52] own rules?

[42:52] applications and so was based

[42:56] on when those can meet and then

[42:56] also considering other items on

[42:56] thank you for the opportunity.

[42:59] ok, thank you council members.

[43:00] the agenda and it is best to

[43:01] bring items and so all of these

[43:03] applications across our the

[43:04] that concludes the first part

[43:07] o.s.s. Grant program were

[43:08] of this hearing now you may

[43:08] opened and closed at the same

[43:08] discuss it as us council member

[43:11] thomas yes, if I understand

[43:11] time in terms of other items

[43:12] that may be coming before

[43:14] attorney frost right.

[43:15] council, the only things that

[43:16] remain that currently to my

[43:18] our charge today is to apply

[43:19] knowledge remain open are the

[43:19] the special use standards to

[43:20] grants that the empower knot's

[43:22] initiative does which are

[43:23] this application and I've gone

[43:23] similar to our micro grant

[43:24] through the packet as best I

[43:26] programs for other programs

[43:27] that folks can apply for on a

[43:28] rolling basis.

[43:30] could and I will say clearcuts

[43:31] is there a vincent if council

[43:31] does not want to see those

[43:35] does great work and I've been a

[43:35] grants at this time we can go

[43:35] ahead and close that

[43:36] supporter of them for a long

[43:36] application for the event grant

[43:38] so that we don't bring anything

[43:39] time.

[43:39] else.

[43:39] I've attended their side and

[43:40] but in terms of our larger

[43:40] williams I've attended their

[43:40] grants this is the last one but

[43:42] luncheons.

[43:43] they are open and closed at the

[43:44] if my memory serves me well

[43:44] same time and were received at

[43:46] the same time.

[43:48] well, mr. Grant, I mean I think

[43:49] it's easy unless there's some

[43:50] unless someone on my staff can

[43:51] tell me that there's a pending

[43:54] grant that's time sensitive

[43:54] between now and april.

[43:57] twenty third I think we can say

[43:58] that there's not going to be

[43:59] any more between now and april.

[44:02] twenty come into council for

[44:04] I've dispersed some city funds

[44:05] your review and approval and

[44:05] to them when I had an

[44:06] opportunity.

[44:06] let me know now if that's mayor

[44:07] that's not yes.

[44:07] so this is not about the good

[44:08] work that that haircut does and

[44:09] I know a lot of them on first

[44:10] basis first name basis.

[44:11] the issue here is whether or

[44:11] not this particular site meets

[44:12] the criteria of a special use

[44:12] we do have I believe challenge

[44:13] grant park neighborhood

[44:13] and I've gone through I've read

[44:14] challenge grant neighborhood I

[44:14] everything in the packet I've

[44:15] tried to analyze the lawyers

[44:16] think our I'm sorry ibrahim um

[44:17] from parks and recreation.

[44:18] agreements as best as possible

[44:21] ok, coming before us on march

[44:22] and looking at the six criteria

[44:24] under sixteen point to have to

[44:24] the thirty first.

[44:25] ok so there will be the

[44:27] there's four that really give

[44:27] neighborhood parks and rec

[44:28] challenge grants come in for

[44:29] your review.

[44:31] me pause and huge questions

[44:32] those are again those have been

[44:33] around a long time and they're

[44:34] about whether or not they are

[44:35] actually met.

[44:35] pretty small dollar amounts and

[44:39] the first one is whether the

[44:39] the total is is if I believe

[44:39] use is consistent with the

[44:40] I'm correct I think it's less

[44:41] than twenty five thousand

[44:43] adopted plans and policies

[44:43] including the general and the

[44:44] dollars in total across a

[44:44] number of organizations.

[44:47] any others that I know of off

[44:48] the top of your head?

[44:49] I don't think so.

[44:49] one year plan and the that

[44:50] certification is to promote

[44:52] ok, but again, you know, there

[44:53] redevelopment of vacant or

[44:55] sometimes we stretch them out

[44:57] largely vacant shopping centers

[44:58] just to uh you know, have

[44:59] shorter agendas but maybe

[45:01] and this is not a vacant or

[45:01] largely vacant shopping center.

[45:02] that's not a good idea anyhow.

[45:04] we want to hear more about how

[45:05] it has ongoing businesses.

[45:07] we can improve on april

[45:07] twenty third and also continue

[45:08] so under section one which

[45:09] would be trying to promote

[45:10] the conversation tonight as you

[45:12] want counts vice if you get

[45:13] redevelopment of a vacant

[45:14] shopping center or largely

[45:14] thank I would just respectfully

[45:17] vacant this should not apply so

[45:18] request that if you find after

[45:18] you get in your offices

[45:19] tomorrow and what you did not

[45:20] that criteria was not met

[45:22] know off the top of your head

[45:23] tonight you find that there

[45:25] whether it has the use in

[45:25] harmony with general purpose

[45:26] is another one coming to us

[45:26] before april.

[45:29] and intent of the zoning

[45:29] please let us know otherwise I

[45:29] code says the one district

[45:30] look forward to a very robust

[45:33] is intended to accommodate high

[45:34] workshop on april twenty third

[45:37] intensity commercial uses of a

[45:40] because this is new to it's a

[45:40] lot lot of grants.

[45:41] predominantly auto orien it

[45:43] the city gives away a lot

[45:44] character and that is the

[45:45] situation there on merchants

[45:47] of community grant money and so

[45:48] look forward to discussing all

[45:52] road and me being someone who

[45:53] promotes pedestrianism and

[45:55] our processes and oh ok.

[45:56] no other lights on the motion

[45:56] loves pedestrianism, the use

[45:59] on the floor to approve this

[45:59] item.

[45:59] of this would be primarily

[46:00] twelve f all those in favor

[46:02] please say ay ay yi opposed

[46:03] opposed motion carries eight

[46:04] pedestrian and so as much as I

[46:08] wish that wasn't the case,

[46:09] that's what the the

[46:11] code requires.

[46:12] the code talks about is about

[46:13] one next item please 12 g is a

[46:16] an auto centric auto oriented

[46:16] resolution authorizing the

[46:17] mayor to execute an agreement

[46:18] with connect ministries to

[46:20] provide individual case

[46:21] management, wraparound social

[46:22] services and emergency

[46:22] character in so the fact that

[46:24] the proposed use here is not an

[46:25] relocation support to

[46:25] individuals at high risk for

[46:28] auto centric proposal does not

[46:28] being involved in community

[46:29] based violence for an annual

[46:30] amounts not to exceed one

[46:31] get no.

[46:31] two either.

[46:32] hundred eighty six thousand one

[46:35] no for the use will not

[46:36] hundred dollars council.

[46:36] there's a couple of people

[46:39] significantly injure the value

[46:39] signed up to speak item twelve

[46:39] g.

[46:39] of adjacent property owners

[46:40] we'll start with those in favor

[46:47] first monica read this re thank

[46:47] etc. And the the planning staff

[46:47] you.

[46:48] if you could say your name and

[46:51] just issued one sentence on

[46:51] address for the record and

[46:51] their findings.

[46:52] you'll have up to three minutes

[46:52] it says the proposal is not

[46:55] expected to significantly

[46:55] monica read thirty six fifteen

[46:56] injure the value of any

[46:56] martin luther king jr. Avenue

[46:58] connect ministries connect

[46:59] ministries has been in e

[46:59] adjacent properties.

[46:59] knoxville for nearly

[47:00] that was their total findings.

[47:02] twenty years.

[47:03] it had no substance to it.

[47:03] we have reviewed the proposed

[47:06] contract for the office from

[47:06] it had no evaluation about why

[47:07] the office of community safety

[47:07] just a blanket statement.

[47:08] in a power missler kenya has

[47:10] it's not expected significantly

[47:10] the canek has the capacity to

[47:11] injure the value of adjacent

[47:14] execute the terms of the

[47:14] properties like a council.

[47:15] proposed contact tracked in the

[47:15] I've got a packet of eighty

[47:17] scope of work connected

[47:18] community based resource where

[47:19] over 80 comments and I think

[47:21] people come to find some hope.

[47:22] we are excited about the

[47:22] only two were in support

[47:23] of this location for its

[47:26] possibility of being a part

[47:27] of this team violence reduction

[47:27] intended use and I read every

[47:29] in an effort to stabilize the

[47:29] streets here in knoxville

[47:30] knowing that the participants

[47:31] one of those comments and the

[47:32] theme that runs through them

[47:33] that are enrolling are those

[47:33] who have voluntarily come to

[47:33] is we're not against clearcuts

[47:34] , we're concerned with the

[47:37] say that I want to change my

[47:38] life and the promise for a

[47:38] safety but these were well

[47:38] written.

[47:41] better life for me and my

[47:42] family probers.

[47:42] it wasn't form submissions and

[47:42] twenty three and seven say as

[47:43] many of them were by business

[47:45] far as a man thinks in his

[47:46] heart, so is he.

[47:46] owners along that corridor and

[47:48] we want to provide a space for

[47:49] participants to think for a

[47:50] they have valid concerns and

[47:51] this is not just some

[47:51] unspectacular speculation

[47:53] change destabilizing streets

[47:54] program and partnerships formed

[47:54] of fear.

[47:55] they have valid concerns about

[47:57] with various organizations

[47:58] how this will impact their

[47:58] business.

[48:00] including the manabu center and

[48:01] others to make this program

[48:02] one of the comments was from a

[48:02] successful.

[48:05] thanks to the structure laid

[48:06] former volunteer of crosscuts

[48:06] out by mr. Mccain, miss

[48:08] middlebrook and her office

[48:08] designed to allow participants

[48:08] sorry clearcuts on williams

[48:09] to change their thinking in

[48:09] avenue and they talked about

[48:12] order to change our lives, the

[48:13] the impact that it had on

[48:13] life and the lives of their

[48:13] businesses.

[48:16] families any programs that are

[48:17] >> mr thomas said your time

[48:17] going to be successful must

[48:17] is up.

[48:18] ok, I will yield to my

[48:18] colleagues.

[48:19] ok, I'll come back.

[48:20] have dollars allocated for

[48:21] thank you mayor.

[48:21] support services necessary for

[48:22] other comments or questions or

[48:23] the petition and their families

[48:24] to include intense case

[48:25] motions from other council

[48:25] members.

[48:28] management, intense case

[48:29] council member parker in our

[48:30] rules we can also request

[48:31] management and with a lot

[48:32] of walking alongside and a lot

[48:33] additional time.

[48:34] I would really like to hear

[48:35] of handholding through every

[48:36] phase of this program that they

[48:36] your full arguments if you

[48:37] don't mind continuing doesn't

[48:38] seem like anybody else is ready

[48:39] enter for a new life the new

[48:39] way of life.

[48:40] to speak.

[48:41] and I just want to say that

[48:41] I'll second that mr thomas will

[48:43] commitment ministry is doing

[48:44] this in the city and we are

[48:44] go back to you if you put the

[48:44] trusted messengers.

[48:45] clock back at another three

[48:45] five minutes.

[48:46] one of the trusted messengers

[48:46] of the city.

[48:47] and I just think that the

[48:50] structure that's laid out for

[48:51] the weekly reporting and the

[48:51] ok so I can so you know I

[48:54] talked about how the this would

[48:54] weekly gatherings have all

[48:55] of the partners come together

[48:55] injure the businesses and the

[48:58] property values that's

[48:58] to share what's happening, to

[48:59] substantiating the record and

[48:59] share participants work that we

[49:02] these are people who are

[49:02] do every department needs case

[49:03] management because you can

[49:03] observers of that area and they

[49:03] manage for connect.

[49:06] own businesses there and

[49:06] you can't do my case

[49:06] management.

[49:07] they're talking about how this

[49:08] I have to do my role and so

[49:10] is going to impact about how

[49:10] every entity that's a part

[49:11] of this have to have all the

[49:13] pieces in their organization to

[49:14] hand walk these people through

[49:14] this process.

[49:14] already it is and based glee

[49:15] and so we just thank you for

[49:15] the situation we're in I was a

[49:18] the opportunity connect to be a

[49:19] council member when all this

[49:19] part of it and come to speak

[49:19] happened and I could see it

[49:21] today in favor of this

[49:21] contract.

[49:22] thank you.

[49:22] before my eyes but it was when

[49:25] thank you.

[49:26] black stock the housing area

[49:26] next person signed up to speak

[49:27] and around black stock was they

[49:27] in favor of this item is jan

[49:29] kominski.

[49:30] did a sweep and it forced all

[49:30] miss kominski, if you could

[49:31] come to the podium, state your

[49:32] name and address for the record

[49:33] the homeless out of black stop

[49:34] and you'll have up to three

[49:34] because of complaints from

[49:37] neighbors there.

[49:38] and so where did they go?

[49:41] they went north and so that's

[49:42] when I started hearing

[49:44] minutes to address council.

[49:44] complaints about these issues

[49:45] >> hey, my name is jean

[49:45] kaminsky.

[49:45] that have been spoken from from

[49:49] the podium and I hear them

[49:52] consistently, you know, and

[49:53] this happened after the the

[49:56] black stock camp was cleaned

[49:56] out.

[49:58] and so what I'm concerned about

[49:59] is we're going to start another

[50:03] mission this district in

[50:03] merchants road where people

[50:06] I live at five four or one

[50:06] three seven eight four nine.

[50:07] will be going there even more

[50:07] I'm the executive director

[50:08] of community mediation center

[50:09] here in knoxville and we work

[50:09] with courts, families and

[50:10] community partners to help

[50:10] people resolve conflict in a

[50:11] constructive and accessible

[50:11] where the services aren't

[50:11] way.

[50:11] centralized.

[50:12] and we've been doing so since

[50:12] so I don't need it.

[50:13] nineteen ninety four but I'm

[50:13] not here tonight to speak about

[50:14] my organization and I'm here to

[50:15] speak in support of connect

[50:15] I don't think it meets the

[50:15] ministries.

[50:16] I've gotten to know their work

[50:17] through my involvement in the

[50:17] violence reduction provider

[50:18] network where organizations

[50:19] meet weekly to brainstorm ways

[50:19] criteria of not significantly

[50:19] to provide wraparound services

[50:20] injuring the value of adjacent

[50:20] to individuals and families who

[50:23] properties based on what the

[50:23] are facing serious challenges.

[50:24] people and business owners in

[50:24] and week after week I see

[50:26] that area have said.

[50:27] number six, the nature

[50:27] connect ministries showing up

[50:28] in very real and in practical

[50:30] of development is round here.

[50:31] ways.

[50:31] it's not such as to pose a

[50:32] they're not just talking about

[50:32] solutions.

[50:33] they're actively helping people

[50:34] potential hazard and we've

[50:34] navigate housing instability,

[50:35] find employment and rebuild

[50:38] heard about how there's a lack

[50:38] their lives post incarceration.

[50:38] of infrastructure there.

[50:39] they really do meet people

[50:39] this is a pedestrian community

[50:42] where they are and provide

[50:42] that will be using the space

[50:43] support that seems really

[50:46] grounded and really responsive

[50:46] .

[50:46] and that is a very auto centric

[50:47] and so what has really stood

[50:48] out to me is the way that their

[50:49] area and we don't have the

[50:50] infrastructure there to

[50:51] team approaches this work,

[50:52] they're a thoughtful, creative

[50:53] accommodate this type of foot

[50:54] problem solvers and they're

[50:54] traffic and it's going to be

[50:55] willing to step into complex

[50:57] dangerous for the people who

[50:58] situations and help people move

[50:59] forward.

[51:01] are using this facility and a

[51:02] they're doing the kinds

[51:02] lot of the comments that are in

[51:02] of hands-on relationship based

[51:03] work that makes a real

[51:05] our packet was people who are

[51:05] talking about this.

[51:06] difference even when it's not

[51:06] >> they were talking about the

[51:07] always easy to measure.

[51:08] care of the the the users

[51:10] they seem to understand the

[51:11] real barriers that people are

[51:11] facing as well as understanding

[51:13] of this facility and how

[51:13] the systems that people need to

[51:14] dangerous this is going to be

[51:14] navigate and are willing to

[51:17] walk with people through that.

[51:17] and we're going to allow this

[51:18] so from my perspective there

[51:18] use there without us taking

[51:18] are strong and reliable partner

[51:20] care of the under lying

[51:21] infrastructure that would need

[51:21] in this community and their

[51:22] work contributes directly to

[51:23] to be put in place there.

[51:25] stability, safety and better

[51:26] long term outcomes for people

[51:26] here in our community.

[51:28] so based upon that I am going

[51:30] so I just wanted to take this

[51:31] moment to show up in support

[51:32] of their work and to share what

[51:32] to move to approve the appeal

[51:32] which is one of the tough ones

[51:33] I've seen firsthand from them.

[51:34] so I hope they're able to

[51:35] I've had to do.

[51:36] secure this funding so that

[51:37] they can continue to expand the

[51:39] but my analysis anyway of this

[51:40] particular situation, the

[51:40] good work that they do.

[51:41] thank you for your time.

[51:43] criteria for special use

[51:44] thank you, counsel.

[51:45] there's one person who signed

[51:47] is that the criteria are not

[51:48] granted are not met.

[51:48] up to speak against us.

[51:49] that's what is categorized on

[51:49] my sheet.

[51:50] mr. Robinson.

[51:50] thank you.

[51:51] >> ok, motion has been made to

[51:52] matthew robinson, you're not

[51:52] grant the appeals are second to

[51:52] speaking in us, ok?

[51:54] this motion hearing none.

[51:56] that concludes people who have

[51:58] the motion fails for lack of a

[51:59] signed up to speak to this item

[51:59] second.

[51:59] .

[52:00] is there motion to deny the

[52:02] appeal?

[52:03] council member graham thank

[52:03] you.

[52:03] >> I would like to make a

[52:04] motion to deny that has been a

[52:07] motion made and second to deny

[52:07] the appeal.

[52:08] any questions are discussion.

[52:10] >> mayor deja vu.

[52:10] I'd like to make a short please

[52:11] there's a few council members

[52:11] I know I would like to begin

[52:14] that planning you made this

[52:14] up here who was in this very

[52:17] position last year when the

[52:18] this was what they recommended

[52:21] city decided to move forward

[52:22] to to a planning commission and

[52:23] it passed planning permission

[52:23] nine zero went back and watched

[52:25] within ikeja.

[52:26] the meeting and I feel like

[52:27] they they read through these

[52:29] you know, in ikeja has done

[52:29] good things.

[52:31] you know, I won't take away the

[52:33] five merrett and so that was my

[52:34] credit from that but now I'm

[52:36] starting point and then I read

[52:37] finding ourself in the same

[52:37] through the five minutes myself

[52:38] and begin to understand some

[52:40] position where we're not

[52:40] creating a process that's

[52:40] things and looking at many

[52:44] of the things that councilman

[52:44] instrumental to the community.

[52:45] thomas just outlined I see

[52:45] I can't take away anything from

[52:48] janeck ministries in terms

[52:48] differently I see that a

[52:49] of the effort they do more than

[52:49] sidewalk ends at arby's which

[52:51] is on the same block as this

[52:52] what they just say.

[52:53] >> I never see them turn

[52:55] place is just to the north west

[52:55] around, turn around anybody at

[52:55] of that.

[52:56] so it's it's on the same block.

[52:59] it just hasn't been continued

[52:59] the door on but that doesn't

[53:00] but it's literally less than

[53:03] one hundred feet away.

[53:04] I also feel that with the bus

[53:06] mean that what we have in place

[53:07] has been added to the community

[53:07] stop nearby it makes sense for

[53:10] in terms of providing case

[53:11] people to be coming and going.

[53:11] management to hire this

[53:12] I think of work haircuts

[53:14] currently is right now and I'm

[53:15] in commercial real estate.

[53:18] the value of that property

[53:18] individual again, I think the

[53:19] because of all the businesses

[53:19] process needs to be better.

[53:20] there the back building sold

[53:20] I think we can do a much better

[53:22] for over two hundred fifty

[53:23] job in terms of creating an

[53:23] dollars square foot which

[53:23] ecosystem where you have

[53:25] is the same amount it's right

[53:26] different violence prevention

[53:26] there on that block so I do not

[53:27] organizations, where you have

[53:29] see their property things go

[53:30] different wraparound services

[53:30] down and then as a track record

[53:31] at the table and controlling

[53:31] thinking about whether this

[53:33] would bring harm to the

[53:34] neighborhood, I feel like

[53:37] that table for the matter I

[53:37] william street and what the

[53:37] don't know.

[53:38] business that is there right

[53:41] I think it's very disappointing

[53:41] now, the services they provide

[53:42] actually make it part of the

[53:43] safest part of that district

[53:44] for us to try to implement a

[53:45] and I have the confidence that

[53:45] you know, the kaseman and the

[53:46] property values will not drop

[53:48] wraparound services emergency

[53:48] relocation.

[53:49] and it will increase the safety

[53:50] of what is already a problem up

[53:52] these are things that I can

[53:52] there.

[53:53] recall at that at the meeting

[53:53] >> so thank you council member

[53:56] last may that the current

[53:56] parker.

[53:56] organization that we're

[53:57] contracted with is supposed to

[53:59] thank you, mayor.

[54:00] be on there hasn't been any

[54:00] conversation about that

[54:03] organization.

[54:04] >> right.

[54:04] >> um, and I also want to share

[54:05] a few of my thoughts ahead

[54:05] of the vote.

[54:07] so here it is again.

[54:08] it's almost like we're making a

[54:11] double investment in services

[54:12] at the same time we're saying

[54:14] crime is and violence is going

[54:18] down.

[54:19] yet it seems like we're just

[54:21] trying to disperse funds

[54:22] rapidly.

[54:26] it feels like to be able to

[54:26] >> I appreciate the thoughts

[54:26] address the issue when I can

[54:28] shared by council member thomas

[54:28] speak firsthand that you can't

[54:30] and and also by the appellant's

[54:30] the attorney.

[54:31] >> I think there are definitely

[54:32] throw money at the problem.

[54:32] some compelling arguments being

[54:32] made.

[54:33] you know, when you talk about

[54:33] however, for me the arguments

[54:34] violence prevention work and

[54:34] applied more to the commercial

[54:37] community based violence, I've

[54:38] highway zoning rather than the

[54:38] been able to do it on a street

[54:39] standards for evaluating the

[54:40] level.

[54:41] I've been able to do it on an

[54:42] administrative level and I've

[54:44] had the fortunate opportunity

[54:45] to be elected by my

[54:46] constituents to be up here on

[54:46] special use.

[54:47] council to try to shape the

[54:47] >> the comments that have been

[54:48] different policy that we need

[54:50] so we can move forward with a

[54:50] provided about this location

[54:52] better process.

[54:53] that conversation needs to be

[54:53] have been very thoughtful and I

[54:55] had.

[54:56] it needs to be it needs to be

[54:57] believe they are deserving

[54:58] of consideration but for me

[54:59] had very, very soon.

[55:00] if not we will have a problem

[55:04] on our hands and so we have to

[55:05] they were not convincing enough

[55:06] for me to move in that

[55:07] stop putting bandaids on guns.

[55:09] direction to council member

[55:11] >> a 15 year old just shot a

[55:12] self about thirty minutes ago I

[55:13] thomas's point there is a

[55:14] growing mission district in

[55:15] got a text message stop and go.

[55:17] this area and is not one that

[55:18] fifty road shootings, violence

[55:21] has happened on accident.

[55:22] >> it's an area that has been

[55:22] in our community to me I think

[55:23] it's important it's important

[55:24] that we address it the right

[55:25] that was previously used or

[55:26] maybe continues to be used by

[55:27] way and I just don't feel like

[55:30] the county for, you know,

[55:30] the way the city is going about

[55:33] hotels, motels, space for those

[55:33] it is the right way.

[55:34] >> but I just wanted to get

[55:35] that on record.

[55:37] recovering from, you know,

[55:38] infectious diseases and it was

[55:38] we have to do better.

[55:39] we have to stop putting a

[55:41] certainly used during the

[55:42] band-aid on the process and if

[55:43] not it's going to be

[55:44] pandemic and that's why we have

[55:45] this growing population

[55:45] detrimental to us as a city.

[55:46] we will see violence go back up

[55:48] of folks in the area that

[55:49] weren't there previously or at

[55:49] if we don't continue to do it

[55:50] better.

[55:52] thank you.

[55:53] least one of the reasons why.

[55:56] and so it is something that we

[55:56] >> council member parker.

[55:57] have to acknowledge as a city

[56:00] if if if we have leaned on the

[56:00] thank you, mayor.

[56:00] hotel motel services in that

[56:04] area to service a certain

[56:05] we we are learning more about

[56:05] community that we know need

[56:11] other services, it is our

[56:11] these grant processes than we

[56:11] responsibility to ensure that

[56:12] have previously and I

[56:13] appreciate the additional

[56:14] those services are then

[56:15] information.

[56:16] provided and care cuts is one

[56:19] of those services in my opinion

[56:20] like the other speakers have

[56:20] one aspect of the program that

[56:23] was just described though the

[56:24] raise some concerns for me.

[56:26] said, I don't believe this

[56:27] service with lower property

[56:28] um, the weekly meetings and the

[56:29] values in the area or the

[56:30] neighborhood but would only

[56:33] bring a much needed service

[56:34] that hopefully would help to

[56:35] support and the conversations

[56:36] it depends on what these

[56:38] improve the area, help to

[56:38] conversations look like.

[56:39] you know, I've done a lot

[56:42] provide some structure and a

[56:42] of work around education,

[56:43] place for folks to go so that

[56:43] justice and around school

[56:46] they're not lingering in that

[56:46] discipline issues and one

[56:46] situation but they're actually

[56:47] of the concerns when it comes

[56:49] moving forward towards housing

[56:50] .

[56:51] that's the purpose of a service

[56:53] to school discipline is um,

[56:54] like haircut's is provide those

[56:54] wanting to avoid creating a

[56:54] needed services but also help

[56:58] move folks forward in life

[56:58] stigma around the child so one

[56:59] forward towards housing forward

[57:01] teacher may have an experience,

[57:02] may have some disciplinary

[57:04] um, so I'm in support of this.

[57:05] issues with the child.

[57:08] I am also devastated to see

[57:08] clearcuts leave downtown the

[57:12] absolute devastated um you will

[57:13] um, well what we want to avoid

[57:14] is a situation where that

[57:16] serve a new population that

[57:17] teacher been in the third grade

[57:17] teacher now they're gossiping

[57:19] needs you but I know there were

[57:20] with the fourth grade teacher.

[57:20] going to be people sad to see

[57:21] you go as well.

[57:21] now when that child goes off to

[57:23] we need you in both places

[57:24] is how I feel.

[57:24] fourth grade, that teacher

[57:25] but I do believe that this

[57:28] needs the standards for a

[57:28] is expecting certain behavior

[57:28] special use.

[57:32] and it almost creates this the

[57:32] but I think that these issues

[57:33] stigma or you know, the student

[57:33] of how we're using our highway

[57:35] commercials should be

[57:36] gets labeled and potentially

[57:39] doesn't get that fair chance

[57:39] considered, you know, in the

[57:40] future discussions because

[57:40] and I'm worried about that

[57:43] these services do make more

[57:43] happening in this situation

[57:44] sense in these walkable

[57:44] with how we're defining the

[57:44] youth.

[57:45] communities that we are

[57:47] developing throughout the city

[57:48] um, and what kind

[57:50] and we don't want to only zone

[57:51] them for highway, commercial,

[57:52] of confidentiality and privacy

[57:55] regional commercial five acre

[57:56] are we adhering to as they are

[57:59] given access to, you know,

[57:59] large institutional plots like

[58:00] that is our responsibility to

[58:02] various services and forms

[58:03] of therapy?

[58:03] to relook at our zoning code.

[58:04] um, I think these are much

[58:04] we're going to be going through

[58:07] it soon and take into

[58:07] needed but I am a little

[58:11] concerned about how a more

[58:11] consideration what is best for

[58:11] these services moving forward.

[58:15] collective approach might give

[58:15] and I do believe they need to

[58:15] be in walkable communities.

[58:18] but for this issue today I do

[58:19] believe that it does meet the

[58:19] great support to the adults who

[58:20] are leading these efforts.

[58:22] standards plan to vote in

[58:22] favor.

[58:23] thank you.

[58:23] but I worry about the the

[58:24] private kissi concerns for that

[58:26] council member thomas.

[58:27] yes, thank you.

[58:27] child, the stigma that can

[58:28] surround that child especially

[58:30] council member for your

[58:30] thoughtful comments.

[58:31] in uh, a small community like

[58:31] knoxville.

[58:33] I appreciate that one general

[58:34] comment and I will be very

[58:35] um, so if you wouldn't mind

[58:36] brief one general comment

[58:37] is that there's kind of two

[58:39] sharing more about that aspect

[58:40] of the work, I'd love hearing

[58:40] it.

[58:40] yeah.

[58:41] schools of thought about where

[58:42] the un house should be located

[58:43] so for clarity with regards to

[58:44] this service contract and the

[58:45] and how they should be

[58:47] nets that you hear, they are

[58:48] administered to and helped and

[58:50] contracts for for direct

[58:51] services as is most of us know

[58:52] the city doesn't do a lot

[58:52] one of them is to disperse the

[58:54] of direct services and so we

[58:55] connect with organizations who

[58:56] different helping agencies into

[58:57] are doing that work in our

[58:57] different parts of the city and

[58:58] community primarily the

[59:01] that's that's a valid school.

[59:02] participant in these services

[59:02] I thought there another school

[59:02] are not young people.

[59:05] of thought is that you keep it

[59:05] most of them are young adults,

[59:06] middle adults, older adults

[59:09] kind of where they have access

[59:09] sometimes.

[59:11] so it is not specific to young

[59:12] to services and the services

[59:13] are in such a proximity that

[59:14] people all the providers that

[59:15] are currently in our provider

[59:17] they can actually serve each

[59:17] network and it is a growing

[59:17] other better because you have

[59:20] cities that's kind of what

[59:20] ecosystem of providers who can

[59:21] we've had I think up on

[59:21] engage and effectively support

[59:23] broadway.

[59:25] the populations that we are

[59:25] so you would have calm you have

[59:25] looking to serve.

[59:28] salvation army etc. So those

[59:28] are two valid schools

[59:29] of thought.

[59:29] all of them are in agreement

[59:32] what's happening here

[59:32] with our confidentiality

[59:32] is because of the closing

[59:33] policies where the discussions

[59:36] of black stock as I mentioned

[59:37] that happen in the coordination

[59:40] is that population went from

[59:40] downtown north to merchants

[59:41] meetings are for the group and

[59:44] do not extend beyond that and

[59:44] road in my district and the

[59:45] neighbors and the businesses up

[59:45] as individuals enroll in

[59:47] there have been confronted with

[59:49] participation with different

[59:52] this situation that they

[59:53] weren't used to and there's

[59:53] providers they each provider

[59:54] has their own releases

[59:56] of information that allowed

[59:57] them to coordinate services or

[59:58] lots of valid concerns so I

[59:59] just wanted to kind of make

[1:00:00] care among other providers that

[1:00:01] they may be working with.

[1:00:02] that general statement about

[1:00:03] how there are two schools

[1:00:03] and so we are very thoughtful

[1:00:04] of thought and both of them

[1:00:04] to adhering to the privacy

[1:00:05] concerns for individuals that

[1:00:07] have legitimate say about you

[1:00:08] know, you want to disperse

[1:00:08] are participating but it allows

[1:00:09] an opportunity for folks who

[1:00:09] may be serving these

[1:00:11] services throughout the city

[1:00:11] where things will be fair and

[1:00:14] no particular neighborhood will

[1:00:16] have to bear the brunt of a

[1:00:19] large on house population and

[1:00:20] the other one is have more

[1:00:23] central locations where you can

[1:00:24] actually provide these services

[1:00:27] more effectively.

[1:00:30] individuals to identify gaps in

[1:00:30] services and coordinate with

[1:00:31] >> what is happening here

[1:00:31] other providers to ensure that

[1:00:32] care is coordinated, that we

[1:00:33] are not missing opportunities

[1:00:33] to serve or sometimes even

[1:00:34] double serving in places and

[1:00:35] is that merchants road and the

[1:00:35] then leaving gaps and others

[1:00:36] and so a lot of the folks who

[1:00:37] these organizations are

[1:00:38] engaging with are actually

[1:00:38] adults who can make those

[1:00:38] fifth district my district has

[1:00:39] determinations and sign those

[1:00:39] releases for themselves and

[1:00:40] been taking the brunt of this

[1:00:40] they can talk more.

[1:00:41] the organizations are here.

[1:00:41] they can talk more about what

[1:00:42] their processes are for sure

[1:00:43] and confidentiality and privacy

[1:00:43] relocation of un housed people

[1:00:44] for their clients.

[1:00:45] and then as a follow up

[1:00:46] and what I want to ask my

[1:00:48] question, none of the

[1:00:50] colleagues to do for my

[1:00:51] individuals who receive these

[1:00:52] services and end up being

[1:00:54] district this is your this

[1:00:54] is not your district.

[1:00:55] clients of connect ministries,

[1:00:55] I get that.

[1:00:58] none of that information

[1:00:58] but I I'm really going to need

[1:00:59] your help.

[1:01:02] I can't do it myself and this

[1:01:02] is shared with kapiti correct?

[1:01:03] my district is bearing the

[1:01:03] correct.

[1:01:06] brunt of this this movement

[1:01:06] their their private information

[1:01:07] is retained as private

[1:01:07] information by the organization

[1:01:10] is shared with provider

[1:01:10] networks.

[1:01:11] the law enforcement does not

[1:01:12] of un housed individuals and to

[1:01:13] the extent of any other

[1:01:14] participate in a service

[1:01:14] provider network.

[1:01:15] it's solely for service

[1:01:16] district and so it's not fair

[1:01:18] providers in city of knoxville

[1:01:18] .

[1:01:19] that's perfect.

[1:01:19] thank you.

[1:01:20] to allow this situation to

[1:01:21] ok, thank you.

[1:01:24] happen in one particular

[1:01:25] just a just a little context

[1:01:27] for those of you who are newer

[1:01:28] district without offering as

[1:01:28] much help as you can.

[1:01:29] to council is you know when we

[1:01:30] had a surge in violence in

[1:01:32] twenty twenty in twenty twenty

[1:01:35] so if this passes I'm going to

[1:01:36] encourage my colleagues to do

[1:01:36] one we at the time had limited

[1:01:37] tools mostly law enforcement

[1:01:39] whatever they can to have that

[1:01:40] understanding even if it's not

[1:01:41] and we realized that we needed

[1:01:42] community based interventions

[1:01:43] in your district, you know we

[1:01:44] are going to need help from law

[1:01:45] not just law enforcement to

[1:01:45] reduce the violence in our

[1:01:46] city.

[1:01:47] so we started the office

[1:01:47] enforcement, from social

[1:01:49] of community safety later that

[1:01:50] was consolidated with the

[1:01:50] office of community safety and

[1:01:51] services, from the the homeless

[1:01:53] empowerment and then we worked

[1:01:54] on the various group violence

[1:01:54] entities, aaron reed, everybody

[1:01:57] reduction strategies, street

[1:01:58] anybody we can because this

[1:01:59] violence and eruption teams and

[1:02:00] community based services the

[1:02:02] is happening up there and the

[1:02:03] neighbors can see it and they

[1:02:04] project tlc but but the one

[1:02:05] thing that has been, you know,

[1:02:08] taken some time to develop and

[1:02:09] can see the the the ambiance

[1:02:09] mature is the you know, the

[1:02:11] sticks are the easy part.

[1:02:12] you know, we catch you we

[1:02:13] and circumstances and I guess

[1:02:13] prosecute, put you in jail if

[1:02:15] you if guilty of a crime, you

[1:02:16] know.

[1:02:17] the nature of their communities

[1:02:18] and their business is changing

[1:02:19] so when we bring when we know

[1:02:20] identify people who are at risk

[1:02:21] because of a larger influx

[1:02:23] of committing violence or being

[1:02:24] a victim of violence, we want

[1:02:25] of very needy citizens.

[1:02:25] them to not just have a stick

[1:02:27] but carrot and these item

[1:02:29] so I just want to I guess put

[1:02:30] that on the record that since

[1:02:30] twelve g and h are those

[1:02:31] carrots so we can say you want

[1:02:33] the fifth district is now going

[1:02:34] to start has been taking the

[1:02:34] to get out of a life of crime

[1:02:35] but you need a safe place to go

[1:02:37] brunt of of this situation, I'm

[1:02:38] going to be asking for

[1:02:38] because you feel vulnerable in

[1:02:39] your current house or maybe

[1:02:41] everybody's help and you know,

[1:02:41] your own house can you know

[1:02:43] this provider can help you with

[1:02:43] that you're you've been

[1:02:45] I'll just make some personal

[1:02:45] notes here.

[1:02:46] involved illegal activities

[1:02:46] I just because different people

[1:02:47] because you're short on money

[1:02:49] up here share different things

[1:02:50] connected to maybe get you

[1:02:51] house you know, help with rent,

[1:02:53] you know, I worked in guatemala

[1:02:53] help with the job training to

[1:02:54] city for over two years and the

[1:02:54] you know, those sorts

[1:02:54] of things.

[1:02:57] garbage dump and these were

[1:02:57] so it's it's not just like stop

[1:02:57] people who were making their

[1:02:58] doing this or else you know,

[1:02:58] you're either going to you

[1:03:00] living out of the garbage dump

[1:03:01] and I saw people who were

[1:03:01] know, face criminal

[1:03:02] prosecution.

[1:03:03] we wanted to offer those

[1:03:05] carrots so the item twelve

[1:03:06] is the connect ministry case

[1:03:07] searching for food in the midst

[1:03:08] of buzzard's there was hundreds

[1:03:09] case manager to help people

[1:03:10] with these wraparound social

[1:03:11] of people and hundreds

[1:03:12] of buzzards actually trash

[1:03:13] services and then the next item

[1:03:14] is help with, you know,

[1:03:15] cognitive behavioral therapy

[1:03:16] picking and competing to live.

[1:03:17] and other things and they're

[1:03:17] so I don't want anybody to

[1:03:18] both contracts that are

[1:03:18] invoiced and you know, they're

[1:03:20] think that I was born on city

[1:03:22] up to the amount that you're

[1:03:22] approving tonight.

[1:03:23] so it's not like we just hand

[1:03:23] council or born as a lawyer.

[1:03:24] but I know this community, you

[1:03:25] them over the money.

[1:03:25] they'll receive referrals and

[1:03:27] know, so anything I'm

[1:03:28] advocating is not at all

[1:03:29] then build a city based on the

[1:03:30] amount of money available per

[1:03:31] carlist I totally get it.

[1:03:31] these agreements that you're

[1:03:32] considering tonight.

[1:03:33] what I'm trying to do is do

[1:03:35] something fair for the

[1:03:36] council member grant got a

[1:03:37] question on a couple

[1:03:39] community and also lessen the

[1:03:40] of statements for director

[1:03:43] impact on on healthy

[1:03:44] middlebrook.

[1:03:45] can you define case management

[1:03:47] communities and help businesses

[1:03:48] which is unfairly being levied.

[1:03:48] for me and then we can you

[1:03:51] thank council member housley.

[1:03:52] define life coaching and can

[1:03:52] thank you mayor.

[1:03:53] you distinguish the difference

[1:03:56] I just like to say I don't know

[1:03:56] between the two?

[1:03:56] how we know where homeless

[1:03:59] people came from.

[1:04:00] >> so life coaching involves

[1:04:00] they if they came from I

[1:04:00] direct services that could

[1:04:02] thought maybe they did um but I

[1:04:03] think all parts of town have

[1:04:04] mirror in some regards case

[1:04:05] management but it's much more

[1:04:06] issues with homeless people

[1:04:07] live in south nashville and

[1:04:07] there's a lot of homeless

[1:04:08] broad so your life coaches are

[1:04:08] typically engaging with

[1:04:09] individuals multiple times a

[1:04:10] people on south knoxville.

[1:04:11] >> um, I think in the meantime

[1:04:11] week having at least one

[1:04:12] I think the criteria has been

[1:04:12] in-person contact with them and

[1:04:14] met for this appeal.

[1:04:15] they are helping to connect

[1:04:18] however, I feel like as a city

[1:04:19] them to resources and services

[1:04:19] we just have to do something.

[1:04:19] that they may need.

[1:04:20] it's not just in one part

[1:04:22] of town.

[1:04:23] so they do have the mission

[1:04:23] but sometimes it is not even

[1:04:24] district downtown which does

[1:04:24] connecting to resources and

[1:04:24] services.

[1:04:25] sometimes it's just being a

[1:04:25] listening ear.

[1:04:26] serve people but the ones in

[1:04:26] it's being a safe place.

[1:04:27] the other parts don't have

[1:04:27] it's being somewhere that they

[1:04:30] can build a relationship and

[1:04:34] connection in a meaningful way

[1:04:35] that helps them feel more

[1:04:35] comfortable engaging services

[1:04:38] in a lot of times the life

[1:04:38] coaches actually walk alongside

[1:04:41] them to engage with other

[1:04:41] service providers.

[1:04:45] so one example that I can give

[1:04:46] is that life coaches for not

[1:04:47] service in are still there.

[1:04:48] I mean for god's sakes,

[1:04:49] cokesbury methodist church down

[1:04:49] soapies this has been mentioned

[1:04:49] there I mean they're way down

[1:04:50] earlier have actually taken

[1:04:50] deep west in the county and

[1:04:51] there's homeless people all

[1:04:51] over down there.

[1:04:52] so I just think we have a

[1:04:53] individuals to ministries to

[1:04:53] problem we need to rectify at

[1:04:53] some point.

[1:04:54] engage in services that connect

[1:04:55] but I don't think any part

[1:04:55] of town is exempt and I will

[1:04:56] wholeheartedly support

[1:04:56] ministries may have because

[1:04:56] haircut's the motion before a

[1:04:57] they know that those

[1:04:57] council is to deny this appeal.

[1:04:57] individuals may not necessarily

[1:04:58] council member thomas yeah.

[1:04:58] very quickly in response to

[1:05:00] walk through the door on their

[1:05:00] miss clb, I know that there's a

[1:05:00] own.

[1:05:01] homeless problem all over the

[1:05:01] city.

[1:05:01] >> the case managers really

[1:05:04] help to assess what the needs

[1:05:04] I get that.

[1:05:05] are, identify kind of a

[1:05:05] but what we're seeing in this

[1:05:05] holistic approach to their

[1:05:07] particular area and I know it

[1:05:08] was when I know when it started

[1:05:09] needs and then can help them

[1:05:09] engage the services that they

[1:05:10] may need.

[1:05:11] happening it's when we cleaned

[1:05:12] out the camps under blackstock.

[1:05:12] so it may be employment

[1:05:13] services, it may be housing, et

[1:05:13] cetera.

[1:05:15] anybody in merchants road can

[1:05:16] and so the two things work

[1:05:16] tell you and I don't think

[1:05:17] together and then as I

[1:05:20] there's any other part of the

[1:05:20] mentioned the third piece that

[1:05:21] will come before you in just a

[1:05:22] few minutes also works with

[1:05:23] city that is taking as many

[1:05:24] unannounced individuals and as

[1:05:24] that in allowing in

[1:05:24] opportunities for individuals

[1:05:27] to engage the therapeutic

[1:05:27] a need for the city to help the

[1:05:28] situation.

[1:05:28] mental health services that

[1:05:30] then there is in north

[1:05:30] knoxville.

[1:05:31] >> thank you.

[1:05:31] they may need to be supported

[1:05:32] and effective in participating

[1:05:34] ok, any further questions or

[1:05:35] discussion saying none just as

[1:05:36] in some of the other services.

[1:05:37] and so the life coaches kind

[1:05:38] of walk alongside them in all

[1:05:39] a reminder a yes vote is to

[1:05:40] deny the people all those in

[1:05:40] favor.

[1:05:40] of those aspects where as the

[1:05:41] case managers through connect

[1:05:42] please say and he opposed the

[1:05:44] would be hyper focused on

[1:05:45] meeting some of those needs

[1:05:45] that identified that their

[1:05:46] motion to deny his council

[1:05:46] members.

[1:05:49] there's been a couple

[1:05:50] of requests for a brief recess

[1:05:50] services can address.

[1:05:51] so that's pretty much the same

[1:05:53] so we'll reconvene at seven

[1:05:54] thirty five and those of you

[1:05:55] thing a case manager and a life

[1:05:56] coach when you're talking about

[1:05:57] who are leaving please take

[1:05:58] this opportunity to leave

[1:05:58] working with individuals is the

[1:05:58] same thing.

[1:06:00] quietly and stay if you're

[1:06:01] the point I'm making is we

[1:06:02] already have funding out here

[1:06:05] for life coaches that are

[1:06:06] working with high risk

[1:06:06] individuals who are already

[1:06:10] doing the work and so here it

[1:06:12] is we're looking to duplicate

[1:06:13] the same thing.

[1:06:14] right.

[1:06:15] I don't know if we're just

[1:06:17] looking to disperse the funds

[1:06:20] for whatever reason but this

[1:06:21] is just not making sense for us

[1:06:25] to duplicate services when I'm

[1:06:26] looking at the contract and I

[1:06:29] see j.r. And we have 200

[1:06:29] twenty five thousand dollars

[1:06:30] out there already for five life

[1:06:31] welcome to stay if you wish

[1:06:33] coaches earn enough high risk

[1:06:34] individuals out there.

[1:06:40] there is and so it's not making

[1:06:44] sense and I hope you know, I

[1:06:45] don't want to be the one to you

[1:06:50] know, come off as you know,

[1:06:51] trying to say that connect

[1:06:55] ministries isn't doing the

[1:06:55] work.

[1:06:56] like I said, I don't think

[1:06:57] there's anything you can say

[1:06:58] about the program but just be

[1:06:58] careful.

[1:07:02] be careful.

[1:07:03] connect ministries it's

[1:07:07] difficult work is challenging

[1:07:08] when you're working with high

[1:07:08] risk individuals you do have to

[1:07:10] walk that fine line.

[1:07:11] you know, when it when it comes

[1:07:14] to the safety of these

[1:07:15] individuals providing certain

[1:07:18] information to law enforcement

[1:07:19] or to the city can be

[1:07:22] detrimental for those

[1:07:22] individuals.

[1:07:24] so as you're doing the work and

[1:07:24] you're working with these five

[1:07:27] individuals, just be mindful

[1:07:27] of that.

[1:07:28] but we have to do a better job

[1:07:29] of dispersing spending our

[1:07:34] funds.

[1:07:35] I mean if you get I think miss

[1:07:37] parker had her line on first

[1:07:38] council member parker sure.

[1:07:41] to things.

[1:07:42] the reason I'm asking this

[1:07:48] question is because both in

[1:07:53] terms of who were identifying

[1:07:54] for, uh, financial support but

[1:07:57] then also who we are uh

[1:08:01] targeting for what the mayor

[1:08:02] described as the stick, not the

[1:08:04] carrot.

[1:08:05] um, it just sounds like

[1:08:08] predictive policing.

[1:08:12] so I'm trying to get a sense

[1:08:13] of are we doing predictive

[1:08:15] policing and how are we um you

[1:08:19] know, identifying people who

[1:08:20] could potentially be a victim

[1:08:21] of a crime or who could

[1:08:24] potentially, um, commit a

[1:08:25] crime.

[1:08:27] and so that's why I keep asking

[1:08:27] those questions.

[1:08:31] council member grant just

[1:08:32] stated that there are not that

[1:08:35] many high risk individuals in

[1:08:36] our community but when we have

[1:08:39] such broad definitions, a lot

[1:08:40] of people can fit into that

[1:08:41] definition of who might be

[1:08:45] considered a high risk

[1:08:49] individual and then what stigma

[1:08:50] then is attached not only to

[1:08:53] the individual but to a

[1:08:54] community?

[1:08:58] um, for the knoxville peace

[1:09:01] group was was brought up in and

[1:09:05] I see j.r. Contract and I

[1:09:06] wanted to ask I thought that

[1:09:08] was a short six month contract.

[1:09:09] was it a year long contract?

[1:09:13] is that contract not expired?

[1:09:17] and so you contract so it has a

[1:09:20] few more months on the contract

[1:09:20] now.

[1:09:21] uh, yes.

[1:09:24] do do we have any idea what

[1:09:28] comes next?

[1:09:29] because my understanding was

[1:09:32] that knoxville peace I believe

[1:09:34] and I see as they as we asked

[1:09:36] them is coming to offer

[1:09:37] training to anyone who's

[1:09:40] willing to get more training.

[1:09:42] I can't like be what's the name

[1:09:43] of it anyhow to other entities

[1:09:44] again we're trying to have an

[1:09:47] ecosystem of community

[1:09:48] supportive services to to stop

[1:09:51] people from being violent and

[1:09:52] let's say we serve someone who

[1:09:55] instead of a ninety nine

[1:09:56] percent likely to commit

[1:09:59] violence or a ninety five

[1:10:00] percent that would still be

[1:10:00] helpful.

[1:10:02] maybe someone gets access to

[1:10:03] job training to mental health

[1:10:06] services or housing and then

[1:10:07] they're less risk of being a

[1:10:10] victim of committing violence.

[1:10:11] I think that's it's a good

[1:10:15] problem to have that we are a

[1:10:16] less violent city today than we

[1:10:19] were five years ago and I think

[1:10:19] that's a credit to the office

[1:10:22] of community safety and all

[1:10:23] many people have been part

[1:10:26] of developing this ecosystem

[1:10:26] of community services.

[1:10:27] I think for every dollar we

[1:10:29] invest in community

[1:10:29] organizations like connect

[1:10:51] ministry and some of the grants

[1:10:52] that you all proved last agenda

[1:10:53] item helps us be a safer city.

[1:10:54] I think you can look at our

[1:10:54] crime statistics.

[1:10:55] I think that's credit to credit

[1:10:56] but I also think it's credit to

[1:10:56] these community based

[1:10:57] organizations that we don't

[1:10:57] just have an absence

[1:10:58] of violence, we have a presence

[1:10:59] of peace and that's that's what

[1:10:59] this is about.

[1:11:01] well, my assessing what um the

[1:11:03] outcomes of these efforts

[1:11:04] should be an ongoing process

[1:11:08] and I do not believe we've

[1:11:10] talked about the data really

[1:11:15] since a lot of these programs

[1:11:16] and efforts began and since

[1:11:19] then I've heard, you know, the

[1:11:22] uh we're starting to see

[1:11:26] different victims of gun

[1:11:27] violence in our community

[1:11:30] rather than than than the

[1:11:31] demographics that we were

[1:11:34] largely seeing five years ago.

[1:11:41] and so that tells me, you know,

[1:11:44] uh, that it's time to reassess

[1:11:49] and to see where the needs are

[1:11:49] currently.

[1:11:50] but if we simply just keep

[1:11:53] doing the same thing and we

[1:11:53] just assume certain

[1:11:54] neighborhoods are where the

[1:11:57] violence is going to happen and

[1:11:58] certain people are going to be

[1:12:00] the people who commit the

[1:12:01] violence even though we're

[1:12:02] seeing those numbers shift and

[1:12:04] we're seeing other demographics

[1:12:05] committing the violence, that's

[1:12:09] where we start to see a biased

[1:12:12] form and we start to see the

[1:12:13] you know, racial profiling and

[1:12:16] then we start to see the stigma

[1:12:16] forming.

[1:12:17] and so that's why I'm asking

[1:12:19] these questions.

[1:12:21] if we see data shifting, we see

[1:12:21] violence is down.

[1:12:24] we the other demographics in

[1:12:28] the violence and needing those

[1:12:31] supports as well.

[1:12:32] it's you know, it's time to

[1:12:33] have a conversation about where

[1:12:37] we're focusing our efforts.

[1:12:38] vice mayor, if you're good,

[1:12:39] thank you.

[1:12:41] I move that we approve their

[1:12:46] second motion to approve has

[1:12:46] been made and seconded.

[1:12:47] did you have any further

[1:12:50] discussion, vice mayor?

[1:12:54] ok, no lights are on all those

[1:12:55] important oh well I actual

[1:12:57] individual roll call for this

[1:12:58] particular line item please.

[1:12:59] ok roll call votes been

[1:13:02] requested if you could please

[1:13:05] uh do the roll call vote usmani

[1:13:06] if you could yes.

[1:13:09] councilman grant no councilman

[1:13:12] housley councilman honeycut yes

[1:13:13] .

[1:13:16] councilman lloyd no kathleen

[1:13:17] parker yes.

[1:13:21] councilman thomas abstained on

[1:13:23] this one.

[1:13:24] councilman adams councilman

[1:13:28] adams yes.

[1:13:29] councilman demar laykoon.

[1:13:29] yes.

[1:13:32] where the vote is six and favor

[1:13:36] two opposed with one abstention

[1:13:41] motion carries next item please

[1:13:46] eleven hs resolution

[1:13:47] authorizing the mayor to

[1:13:47] execute an agreement with the

[1:13:50] and russ macnab center inc. To

[1:13:50] provide individual and group

[1:13:53] therapy to individuals

[1:13:54] identified as being at high

[1:13:54] risk for involvement in

[1:13:57] community based violence and

[1:13:58] enrolled in outreach and or

[1:14:01] life coaching for annual

[1:14:02] amounts not to exceed one

[1:14:03] hundred twenty one thousand

[1:14:05] dollars.

[1:14:06] can I council we have two

[1:14:09] people signed up one in favor,

[1:14:10] one against.

[1:14:13] I will start with persons lined

[1:14:14] up in favor of item twelve

[1:14:17] which candice allen miss miss

[1:14:18] allen uh she could approach the

[1:14:21] podium state your name address

[1:14:22] the record and you'll have up

[1:14:22] to three minutes to address

[1:14:25] councilman candice allen um

[1:14:26] address two hundred tech center

[1:14:28] drive knoxville, tennessee.

[1:14:32] um, I'm here tonight to support

[1:14:37] um the um uh project that is in

[1:14:37] front of you.

[1:14:41] um, we are involved initially

[1:14:45] with the training in two

[1:14:46] thousand and twenty two that

[1:14:49] was provided to us through the

[1:14:52] violence reduction center and

[1:14:53] during that time it was very

[1:14:57] apparent to us that one of the

[1:14:58] things that they had carved out

[1:15:00] that was very one of the

[1:15:04] components of the model was

[1:15:05] that individuals needed

[1:15:08] individual and group therapy

[1:15:09] and not only did they recommend

[1:15:13] that they also cited cbt, which

[1:15:13] is cognitive behavioral therapy

[1:15:17] and as the most successful

[1:15:20] model that they had, you know,

[1:15:24] that they had experienced in

[1:15:25] all their success with their

[1:15:26] other models that they'd put in

[1:15:27] different cities.

[1:15:29] >> so just to give you a brief

[1:15:32] idea of what that entails, cbt

[1:15:36] as it is called is a evidence

[1:15:39] based structured therapy model

[1:15:39] .

[1:15:43] it is provided specifically for

[1:15:45] individuals that have a pattern

[1:15:48] of negative thinking which

[1:15:49] turns into negative behaviors

[1:15:52] in this helps in to identify

[1:15:56] and to move forward in and you

[1:15:57] know, experience some positive

[1:15:57] goals.

[1:16:00] and so this really is is

[1:16:01] pertinent towards a group

[1:16:04] therapy kind of model.

[1:16:04] for example, it could be

[1:16:07] something that they attend

[1:16:08] several weeks that would

[1:16:11] involve making better decisions

[1:16:12] , identifying purpose, working

[1:16:15] through trauma and time because

[1:16:16] we know that the majority

[1:16:16] of the individuals that we come

[1:16:19] across there refer to this

[1:16:19] initiative.

[1:16:24] they have a lot of trauma in

[1:16:27] the finally it would be a the

[1:16:28] final week might be life skills

[1:16:31] and financial literacy.

[1:16:32] >> so that's just one example

[1:16:34] that the master's level person

[1:16:36] , the therapist would also be

[1:16:39] providing individual therapy to

[1:16:40] the participants in this would

[1:16:43] be a wide range of evidence

[1:16:47] based modalities of treatment

[1:16:47] that they're specifically

[1:16:47] trained in.

[1:16:51] so in summary, I'm here to

[1:16:52] support that a dedicated

[1:16:55] therapy must be assigned to be

[1:16:59] able to conduct these type

[1:16:59] of group and individual

[1:17:03] sessions for individuals.

[1:17:04] what we know is is that

[1:17:06] individuals need a whole stick

[1:17:10] approach and mental health

[1:17:11] is paramount in helping them

[1:17:15] establish a foundation and

[1:17:15] maintain that foundation so

[1:17:19] they can make positive changes

[1:17:19] in their lives.

[1:17:20] thank you for your time and

[1:17:21] attention.

[1:17:26] appreciate it.

[1:17:26] thank you.

[1:17:28] next person signed up to speak

[1:17:30] to this item, signed up against

[1:17:32] it maybe inadvertently mr.

[1:17:36] robinson.

[1:17:37] ok, well please come to the

[1:17:38] podium said your name and

[1:17:40] address for the record you'll

[1:17:41] have up to three minutes to

[1:17:41] address council.

[1:17:42] >> yes ma'am.

[1:17:44] my name is matthew robinson,

[1:17:45] executive director of up knocks

[1:17:48] in my address is forty eight

[1:17:48] 2014 if you wait three seven

[1:17:51] nine one eight if I'm not

[1:17:55] mistaken helen ross mcnabb

[1:17:56] already gets millions and

[1:17:59] millions of funding in to my

[1:17:59] knowledge they've been around

[1:18:03] for decades and not really had

[1:18:04] any specific interest in

[1:18:07] violence interruptions

[1:18:09] specifically I may be wrong but

[1:18:10] I understand understand I'm not

[1:18:11] opposed to anybody doing this

[1:18:13] work.

[1:18:15] we we need all the help we can

[1:18:15] get.

[1:18:18] but I've also said before

[1:18:18] understanding that taking these

[1:18:19] job descriptions and positions

[1:18:22] in and putting them

[1:18:22] systematically in a process

[1:18:26] takes away the personal aspect

[1:18:27] of all situations pertaining

[1:18:30] and will likely adopt the wish

[1:18:31] that already exists between

[1:18:33] professionals in that world the

[1:18:33] people in the real world

[1:18:34] dealing with the real life

[1:18:37] issues creating these new job

[1:18:37] descriptions and positions in

[1:18:38] companies that have already

[1:18:41] been around forever also

[1:18:42] negates opportunities for other

[1:18:45] organizations and new violence

[1:18:46] reduction models to receive

[1:18:48] appropriate funding because if

[1:18:49] the city puts x amount

[1:18:50] of dollars in this line of work

[1:18:53] already then why would it want

[1:18:54] to keep investing more

[1:18:56] especially more specifically

[1:19:00] after it's reached its cap?

[1:19:01] I also personally think that

[1:19:04] that this specific line gives

[1:19:05] premise to a perception that

[1:19:09] the city's current model is not

[1:19:10] working and is successful is is

[1:19:12] as successful as was promised

[1:19:13] because if so why would they

[1:19:14] feel the need to implement

[1:19:16] these new different job

[1:19:17] positions in these companies

[1:19:17] that have already been around

[1:19:20] for decades?

[1:19:21] again, part of the reasons that

[1:19:21] certain organizations are

[1:19:24] successful in this line of work

[1:19:25] is because they come from and

[1:19:28] most still live in the same

[1:19:29] environments that the work

[1:19:32] is needed and being done in.

[1:19:33] and believe it or not, there

[1:19:33] are still many qualified

[1:19:35] individuals in those areas

[1:19:37] waiting for a chance to make a

[1:19:37] difference in the places that

[1:19:38] they grew up in and currently

[1:19:40] live.

[1:19:40] >> thank you.

[1:19:43] thank you council members that

[1:19:44] concludes people have signed up

[1:19:47] to speak to item twelve h

[1:19:48] council member grant and then

[1:19:58] vice mayor fugo oh.

[1:19:59] I mean I have to echo some

[1:20:01] of the things that mr. Robinson

[1:20:05] said.

[1:20:06] you know, some of some of these

[1:20:09] things were tried.

[1:20:10] there were attempts to

[1:20:13] implement these things.

[1:20:14] you know, while I was doing the

[1:20:21] work in the community and again

[1:20:22] can't say nothing about helen

[1:20:25] ross mad miss candice I've had

[1:20:26] opportunity just working

[1:20:29] alongside her the vrc meetings

[1:20:32] just being able to engage with

[1:20:33] her and her staff and they have

[1:20:33] made the commitment to you

[1:20:34] know, to show up to these

[1:20:36] things.

[1:20:37] but that doesn't take away the

[1:20:40] truth on and to me it's

[1:20:41] understanding that the

[1:20:47] president that we're setting

[1:20:48] when I look at the the agenda,

[1:20:51] the documents that came with

[1:20:52] this resolution and I look at

[1:21:12] the hundred and twenty one

[1:21:13] thousand dollar breakdown

[1:21:14] eighty six thousand is for

[1:21:15] salary benefits and taxes

[1:21:16] eighty six thousand is going to

[1:21:17] be going towards hiring an

[1:21:18] employee for helen rostami

[1:21:19] supplies twenty nine hundred

[1:21:20] travel conferences and meetings

[1:21:22] four telephone a thousand I can

[1:21:23] see including equipment rental

[1:21:23] maintenance software licenses,

[1:21:24] five thousand insurance

[1:21:25] professional general

[1:21:26] unemployment a thousand sixty

[1:21:29] one dollars and then you have

[1:21:30] an approved federal indirect

[1:21:33] cost of twenty eight point

[1:21:34] sixty five percent.

[1:21:35] apply it to the salaries and

[1:21:40] benefits that's over a hundred

[1:21:41] and ten thousand dollars

[1:21:42] is just going towards the

[1:21:44] person not the services that

[1:21:45] they're going to be running.

[1:21:48] the person who's funding this

[1:21:49] next year.

[1:21:52] right or voting today are we

[1:21:53] making a commitment to continue

[1:21:53] this position?

[1:21:57] what if it works right?

[1:22:00] is helen ross mcnab taking on

[1:22:00] the the accountability after

[1:22:04] the first year or will the city

[1:22:05] we obligated to fill this void

[1:22:08] we were creating another

[1:22:09] position for an organization

[1:22:11] that's highly funded already.

[1:22:15] it it makes sense.

[1:22:16] it's another band-aid.

[1:22:19] and so a year from now whether

[1:22:20] it works or doesn't work as a

[1:22:23] council we're going to have to

[1:22:24] make a decision.

[1:22:25] do we want to commit another

[1:22:25] hundred and twenty one dollars

[1:22:27] to keep this position field?

[1:22:31] it's not a smart investment.

[1:22:32] it doesn't take away the work

[1:22:33] that helen ross mcnab does but

[1:22:35] it doesn't make sense to make

[1:22:36] this investment at this time.

[1:22:39] thank you, vice mayor.

[1:22:42] if you get thank you I make a

[1:22:46] motion to approve because we

[1:22:47] aren't supposed to enter into

[1:22:48] debate on items until there's a

[1:22:50] motion on the floor.

[1:22:51] >> I'll make a motion to

[1:22:51] approve.

[1:22:53] is there a second second motion

[1:22:57] has been made and seconded.

[1:22:58] thanks man.

[1:22:58] thank you.

[1:23:00] I would just say that at

[1:23:05] understand your concerns I

[1:23:06] would just say that if the if

[1:23:09] the service is therapy then the

[1:23:17] therapy is the service so that

[1:23:18] would be my understanding

[1:23:20] of the rationale that ross

[1:23:21] mcnab would bring on a

[1:23:24] different staff member because

[1:23:28] they probably already have

[1:23:28] existing staff.

[1:23:31] I can't speak to exactly their

[1:23:32] application.

[1:23:35] I see it not from you but it

[1:23:36] would be a different therapist

[1:23:39] with a master's level social

[1:23:43] worker to do this work.

[1:23:47] so that is I understand that

[1:23:48] and I understand that you that

[1:23:51] that's the that's the cost if

[1:23:52] it's a people business to help

[1:23:55] people a therapist is the

[1:23:55] service.

[1:23:59] so I intend to support this

[1:24:00] council member parker and then

[1:24:03] debartolo in.

[1:24:04] thank you.

[1:24:10] um, previously we had funded

[1:24:11] mental health services provided

[1:24:14] by organizations in the

[1:24:17] targeted communities.

[1:24:22] um but it seems like we haven't

[1:24:25] invited those groups to apply

[1:24:29] for additional funding.

[1:24:33] how was this um uh grant

[1:24:37] agreement developed?

[1:24:38] they apply for an open grant

[1:24:42] process or miss if it's not

[1:24:46] it's not a grant it's an

[1:24:46] agreement.

[1:24:47] so miss middlebrook, could you

[1:24:49] speak to that please?

[1:24:50] yes.

[1:24:54] so for this particular contract

[1:24:55] for service for director

[1:24:57] services, mental health

[1:25:01] services as excuse me miss

[1:25:04] allen mentioned in her remarks

[1:25:05] , helen ross mcnab has been a

[1:25:09] partner with us in his work and

[1:25:12] has kind of walked through the

[1:25:13] the development of a plan and

[1:25:16] understanding the initiatives

[1:25:20] and has worked alongside

[1:25:21] existing partners in the space

[1:25:23] for quite some time.

[1:25:24] and so that was the determining

[1:25:27] factor that they were already

[1:25:28] in the space and existing and

[1:25:31] working well with partners in

[1:25:32] the space and had the capacity

[1:25:36] to manage the contract and

[1:25:36] provide the supports and

[1:25:39] services surrounding the

[1:25:40] individual that would be needed

[1:25:42] to effectively serve them our

[1:25:43] other some of our other

[1:25:43] providers.

[1:25:47] so council approved a little

[1:25:50] while ago a provider that was

[1:25:51] providing mental health

[1:25:51] services.

[1:25:52] but those services are specific

[1:25:55] to victims and their families

[1:25:56] and so this provides us a more

[1:26:02] expansive resource to provide

[1:26:03] directed mental health services

[1:26:06] both individual and kandice.

[1:26:07] I mentioned the cognitive

[1:26:10] behavioral therapy sessions for

[1:26:11] individuals who are

[1:26:14] participating in life coaching

[1:26:15] that we don't currently have

[1:26:17] the capacity for.

[1:26:18] >> well, one thing that stood

[1:26:22] out to me in this agreement

[1:26:25] is that the individual hired um

[1:26:26] must understand the culture

[1:26:32] of the targeted community and I

[1:26:33] don't believe that's enough

[1:26:36] honestly especially for

[1:26:37] cognitive behavioral therapy.

[1:26:44] um, not and I'm not saying I'm

[1:26:45] I'm an expert but just what was

[1:26:48] described to me aveng

[1:26:52] of visuals who are expert in

[1:26:56] same challenges in life will

[1:26:59] state it that way and to we're

[1:27:04] already talking about who who

[1:27:05] the target community is in

[1:27:08] these grants.

[1:27:09] we don't say it but we know who

[1:27:11] the targeted community is and

[1:27:16] now the fair he is working with

[1:27:23] individuals with a um negative

[1:27:24] outlook on life.

[1:27:28] how can we shift that to a more

[1:27:31] positive and productive I would

[1:27:32] tell you without being an

[1:27:35] expert in this um, you will

[1:27:38] have much more success with

[1:27:42] someone who is a part of the

[1:27:43] targeted community, not just

[1:27:47] someone who understands the

[1:27:47] culture of the targeted

[1:27:47] community.

[1:27:51] I'll let you speak.

[1:27:52] what would you like go ahead

[1:27:53] with your time then I can I

[1:27:53] don't want cut into your time.

[1:27:57] ok, um so that was one concern

[1:28:01] that I had because several

[1:28:02] years ago now uh there was a

[1:28:04] almost like pitch competition

[1:28:08] that was held by the city to

[1:28:09] bring forward community

[1:28:13] organizations who are offering

[1:28:13] mental health services to

[1:28:16] compete for funding from the

[1:28:17] city at present on their

[1:28:19] various services.

[1:28:20] and I don't know if all

[1:28:23] of those have continued

[1:28:24] especially without support but

[1:28:27] I do know some of them have

[1:28:31] continued and so we have those

[1:28:32] mental health services within

[1:28:35] the community and I imagine

[1:28:36] especially for a contract like

[1:28:40] this where we are fully paying

[1:28:44] for an additional staff member,

[1:28:44] many of these other

[1:28:48] organizations that are also

[1:28:51] engaged in mental health

[1:28:52] support that are already

[1:28:55] located in the targeted

[1:28:56] community, they don't have to

[1:28:59] understand the culture of their

[1:29:00] already in the community.

[1:29:03] those are the ones who should

[1:29:04] be getting these funds to

[1:29:07] provide these services in my

[1:29:10] council member of our living,

[1:29:14] mr robinson for his comments

[1:29:15] and also councilman grant, I

[1:29:18] think that community work done

[1:29:20] by people within the community

[1:29:22] is invaluable.

[1:29:23] it's irreplaceable.

[1:29:23] it's important.

[1:29:26] but I also think that therapy

[1:29:29] is very important changed my

[1:29:34] own life, saved my friend's

[1:29:34] life.

[1:29:38] it is it is health work, mental

[1:29:40] health work of a different

[1:29:41] sort.

[1:29:42] and I think the fact that we

[1:29:45] just had these grant stuff come

[1:29:45] before us which we're

[1:29:48] struggling with some process on

[1:29:49] for community groups and then

[1:29:50] had this for this type

[1:29:52] of master's level professional

[1:29:53] group demonstrates that it's

[1:29:57] not an either or but that we

[1:29:58] are trying to serve both ways

[1:30:01] and so I fully support having a

[1:30:04] professional therapist active

[1:30:05] in our community.

[1:30:07] >> thank you.

[1:30:08] thank you.

[1:30:11] council member honeycut and

[1:30:15] then grant, I want commissioner

[1:30:16] grant to understand and

[1:30:17] appreciate that I'm in full

[1:30:21] support of his efforts over the

[1:30:24] next year to uh, evaluate our

[1:30:24] grant process, evaluate the

[1:30:28] office of community safety and

[1:30:28] empowerment and how these funds

[1:30:31] are distributed in terms

[1:30:32] of violence interruption.

[1:30:35] I think you've started an

[1:30:36] important conversation and I'm

[1:30:39] totally on board and excited to

[1:30:40] be part of that over the next

[1:30:42] year and so that this time next

[1:30:43] year we hopefully have an

[1:30:46] alternative structure or

[1:30:47] something an alternative plan

[1:30:51] that that everyone can buy into

[1:30:52] and be on board with.

[1:30:55] I do think that similar to the

[1:30:56] last thing and to to councilman

[1:30:59] baldwin's point, you know,

[1:30:59] until there is an alternative

[1:31:03] in place, it feels like that

[1:31:04] you know, these processes were

[1:31:07] started months ago and these

[1:31:07] organizations are already

[1:31:10] working in the space and so

[1:31:14] supporting them tonight doesn't

[1:31:15] in my mind take away from the

[1:31:36] fact that the community the

[1:31:37] conversation that we have

[1:31:38] started because of you and that

[1:31:38] we are committed to.

[1:31:39] and so it's not an either or

[1:31:40] situation to me and and I'm

[1:31:41] appreciative of the

[1:31:41] conversation that's happening

[1:31:42] tonight and I look forward to

[1:31:43] how this is going to evolve so

[1:31:43] that next november when these

[1:31:44] grants are applied for and

[1:31:45] whatever process that takes it,

[1:31:45] it does look different and it

[1:31:46] is more transparent and it

[1:31:47] is part of a new process but

[1:31:48] that doesn't deter from the

[1:31:49] process that these people have

[1:31:50] gone through and the work

[1:31:52] they're doing currently.

[1:31:54] and so I don't think it's an

[1:31:54] either or situation and I've

[1:32:00] sort plan to vote that way.

[1:32:01] council member grant.

[1:32:02] yeah, I mean and I and I

[1:32:04] appreciate the feedback.

[1:32:08] I'm always open to just kind

[1:32:09] of want to address some some

[1:32:09] of the things that vice mayor

[1:32:12] said in terms of the spending

[1:32:15] and actually hiring this person

[1:32:15] .

[1:32:16] mental health definitely plays

[1:32:19] a role when you're working high

[1:32:22] risk individuals mental

[1:32:23] is definitely important being a

[1:32:27] military veteran, being a

[1:32:31] person who's been shot himself.

[1:32:31] >> right.

[1:32:34] I've gone through it and so to

[1:32:36] councilman parker's point to mr

[1:32:40] roberson's point, it's

[1:32:40] different.

[1:32:44] it's different and I'm I

[1:32:47] understand I've been in it.

[1:32:48] I've lived it.

[1:32:51] I understand this work and so

[1:32:55] you know, when you look at the

[1:32:56] one hundred and twenty one

[1:32:57] thousand there's not one

[1:32:58] hundred and twenty one thousand

[1:32:59] dollars worth of mental health

[1:33:00] services needed for these high

[1:33:02] risk individuals.

[1:33:04] there is and I'll go on record

[1:33:06] and say that because you

[1:33:07] already have organizations out

[1:33:10] here building the relationships

[1:33:11] with these high risk

[1:33:14] individuals and you have your

[1:33:15] east tennessee mental health

[1:33:15] right.

[1:33:18] you have therapists who you

[1:33:19] know in my previous profession

[1:33:20] I was able to build a

[1:33:23] relationship and say hey, can

[1:33:24] you sit down and work with this

[1:33:27] individual sixty seventy

[1:33:29] dollars a session write as best

[1:33:30] as an organization we had that

[1:33:31] type of service within our

[1:33:34] budget to create a whole nother

[1:33:35] position and to dish out one

[1:33:38] hundred twenty one thousand

[1:33:38] dollars in twelve months.

[1:33:41] what we're saying is is there

[1:33:42] ten thousand dollars a month

[1:33:45] worth of mental health services

[1:33:46] is going to be put out there?

[1:33:48] no there isn't.

[1:33:50] >> and so I just want to be

[1:33:52] mindful of how we spend right

[1:33:53] to councilman honeycut point.

[1:33:56] we're going to be right back

[1:33:57] here a year from now.

[1:34:00] ross mcnab is going to come

[1:34:01] back and say hey, this worked

[1:34:04] or didn't or whatever it may be

[1:34:05] and we can say we can face that

[1:34:08] battle when we get there.

[1:34:09] but what position are we

[1:34:12] putting them in?

[1:34:12] right?

[1:34:13] are we are we already

[1:34:14] committing to a yearly

[1:34:16] commitment of one hundred and

[1:34:17] twenty one thousand if this

[1:34:19] position works or is helen ross

[1:34:20] going to have to fit the bill

[1:34:23] to keep this going and again,

[1:34:24] band aid on a gun wound is what

[1:34:27] I feel like.

[1:34:28] I'll stand on that and I

[1:34:28] appreciate the open mind

[1:34:31] is moving forward and I hope we

[1:34:32] can apply that while we're

[1:34:35] making decisions up here and

[1:34:38] support comes with votes.

[1:34:39] right.

[1:34:40] I hope we all understand that.

[1:34:42] I appreciate everything that

[1:34:43] we're doing up here but support

[1:34:45] comes with votes and votes or

[1:34:46] what create the change that we

[1:34:47] need to move forward so we can

[1:34:50] have better process.

[1:34:50] >> thank you.

[1:34:51] thank you.

[1:34:54] council member parker than vice

[1:34:54] mayor fukin.

[1:34:57] thank you, mayor.

[1:34:59] I just had to respond to what

[1:35:01] was raised earlier because I

[1:35:05] asked about the process for um

[1:35:06] , developing this agreement

[1:35:07] because I wanted to highlight

[1:35:09] that this is not a grant.

[1:35:10] right.

[1:35:13] so we have had concerns about

[1:35:17] grants that came before us and

[1:35:19] and uh have essentially decided

[1:35:22] well we'll wait for the next

[1:35:26] grant cycle to address these or

[1:35:27] or make sure these issues are

[1:35:27] addressed.

[1:35:29] this is an agreement that the

[1:35:32] city reached out one on one

[1:35:34] with an entity and decided you

[1:35:35] are the one I want to provide

[1:35:37] this service in these

[1:35:41] situations we can provide a lot

[1:35:41] more scrutiny in my opinion.

[1:35:44] um, because it's not a whole

[1:35:48] six month process that has to

[1:35:48] be redone.

[1:35:53] but we can ask questions about

[1:35:53] other organizations that might

[1:35:56] have been considered.

[1:35:57] I don't think that council

[1:36:00] member artillerymen wanted in

[1:36:01] this way but it kind of sounded

[1:36:04] like, um, there was some

[1:36:08] comfort with mcnabb receiving

[1:36:09] these services because it would

[1:36:12] be professional mental health

[1:36:12] services.

[1:36:13] and I just wanted to highlight

[1:36:15] that we have these

[1:36:15] professionals working at

[1:36:18] non-profits within the

[1:36:18] community.

[1:36:25] um, um at the shaw foundation

[1:36:27] which has a location on mlk

[1:36:30] they're working with dr bush

[1:36:34] who provides mental health

[1:36:35] services there through their

[1:36:38] pathways um mental health

[1:36:41] clinic I think it is and it's

[1:36:42] not just for you but for the

[1:36:42] whole family.

[1:36:45] so they provide those services

[1:36:45] for the whole family.

[1:36:49] I don't know if they have

[1:36:49] capacity to bring on a new

[1:36:53] position if if asked but it

[1:36:56] certainly would ask because

[1:36:57] again they're located in the

[1:36:57] community.

[1:36:58] they're building those

[1:37:01] relationships already with

[1:37:04] individuals in the community

[1:37:05] and they aren't getting the

[1:37:08] millions upon millions that

[1:37:09] other entities are having and

[1:37:10] this would allow us to help

[1:37:11] grow these services.

[1:37:15] um outside of the much needed

[1:37:19] services provided by mcnabb.

[1:37:20] so that's another reason why

[1:37:26] I'm pushing, um for for us to,

[1:37:27] uh, partner with those entities

[1:37:30] within our community who have

[1:37:35] been a part of our grant making

[1:37:35] programs for years.

[1:37:38] they're not new organizations.

[1:37:39] sure.

[1:37:41] foundations well respected long

[1:37:43] , long been in the community.

[1:37:46] they've been a part of these

[1:37:47] various programs that the city

[1:37:47] has started.

[1:37:51] um, so we have the the ability

[1:37:54] to bring services into our

[1:37:58] community and have individuals

[1:37:59] from the community provide the

[1:38:02] services to help transition

[1:38:06] individuals out out of whatever

[1:38:07] crisis or whatever state that

[1:38:07] they're in.

[1:38:11] >> um, what else did I want to

[1:38:14] highlight?

[1:38:18] um um but yeah no I just wanted

[1:38:22] to raise those those two points

[1:38:23] that this isn't a grant so you

[1:38:25] know not not a six month

[1:38:26] process will be messing up and

[1:38:29] that we do have these

[1:38:30] professionals in our community

[1:38:33] uh but we need more and these

[1:38:37] small nonprofits who are doing

[1:38:38] all they can to provide these

[1:38:40] services need that support to

[1:38:44] grow their services so ok thing

[1:38:49] no further lights on all those

[1:38:50] in favor please say I and your

[1:38:55] post ok six three motion

[1:39:05] carries ok uh next item please

[1:39:05] .

[1:39:06] >> twelve hours resolution

[1:39:09] authorizing the mayor to

[1:39:10] execute any more documents

[1:39:10] necessary to accept proposals

[1:39:13] to provide access liability

[1:39:14] insurance coverage vehicle and

[1:39:16] equipment damage insurance

[1:39:17] coverage and inland marine

[1:39:20] insurance coverage for mobile

[1:39:21] equipment all as part of the

[1:39:25] city's and k transmen inc. Self

[1:39:29] insurance liability program for

[1:39:29] an estimated annual premium

[1:39:30] of seven hundred seventy two

[1:39:35] thousand one ninety two dollars

[1:39:36] to make improvements asking

[1:39:36] that any questions or

[1:39:39] discussions seeing none all

[1:39:40] those in favor please say I

[1:39:43] opposed the motion 12

[1:39:47] resolution authorizing the

[1:39:48] mayor to amend the contract

[1:39:48] with the design and

[1:39:51] construction services inc. For

[1:39:52] the knoxville urban wilderness

[1:39:52] gateway park.

[1:39:55] james pavilion project

[1:39:56] increasing the contract amount

[1:39:58] by nineteen thousand eight

[1:39:59] twenty one dollars 13 cents for

[1:40:02] a new total contract amounts

[1:40:03] not to exceed four million

[1:40:04] seven hundred seventy nine

[1:40:06] thousand twenty two dollars

[1:40:10] sixty seven cents to three

[1:40:11] motion major improvements I and

[1:40:11] seconded any questions are

[1:40:15] discussion seeing that all

[1:40:16] those in favor please say I

[1:40:19] indya post motion case twelve

[1:40:21] case resolution provides the

[1:40:22] mayor to execute an agreement

[1:40:26] with alta planning design inc.

[1:40:26] to provide professional

[1:40:30] consulting services for the

[1:40:31] twenty twenty six vision zero

[1:40:33] action plan update in an amount

[1:40:34] not to exceed one hundred fifty

[1:40:34] eight thousand five hundred

[1:40:37] ninety six dollars motion to

[1:40:38] improve and seconded any

[1:40:42] questions or discussion seeing

[1:40:43] none all those in favor please

[1:40:48] say I any oppose motion carries

[1:40:49] twelve ls the resolution

[1:40:50] authorizing the mayor to

[1:40:53] execute an agreement with canon

[1:40:54] and canon and cannot and canon

[1:40:56] llc to provide professional

[1:40:57] design services for the

[1:41:00] tazewell park and beverley road

[1:41:00] intersection improvements

[1:41:01] project in an amount not to

[1:41:04] exceed one hundred fifty three

[1:41:05] thousand two hundred forty

[1:41:08] dollars motion to prove motion

[1:41:08] may to approve and seconded.

[1:41:12] we have one person signed up to

[1:41:12] speak on this item in

[1:41:15] opposition mary and garner.

[1:41:17] if you would come to the podium

[1:41:17] state your name and address for

[1:41:20] the record you'll have up to

[1:41:20] three minutes to address

[1:41:20] council.

[1:41:23] yes, thank you.

[1:41:24] councilman marion garner down

[1:41:27] to five cherokee boulevard.

[1:41:28] obviously I am not against

[1:41:31] safety and state tazewell park

[1:41:35] is a state road and beverley

[1:41:57] road is a city road safety on

[1:41:58] any road city, county, state or

[1:41:59] federal is what we all want.

[1:42:00] however I'm opposed to approve

[1:42:00] this resolution tonight as I

[1:42:02] have spoken with the director

[1:42:03] of t dot and the region that

[1:42:04] includes notts county and she

[1:42:04] has not been approached about

[1:42:06] the state helping with this

[1:42:06] project.

[1:42:07] I oppose one hundred and fifty

[1:42:07] eight thousand one hundred

[1:42:11] fifty three thousand being

[1:42:15] spent for a study that has

[1:42:16] until december 31st

[1:42:19] twenty seventeen twenty twenty

[1:42:22] seven to be completed when this

[1:42:23] obviously has been a problem

[1:42:26] according to everybody I've

[1:42:27] spoken with including matthew

[1:42:30] and nathan for over

[1:42:31] twenty years, I really don't

[1:42:33] see that urgency and having

[1:42:37] this study started when state

[1:42:42] county, city feds sit down

[1:42:52] together and go over this at

[1:42:53] and as far this isn't part

[1:42:54] of this but as far as the grant

[1:42:58] money goes and all these other

[1:42:58] projects germane to the item

[1:42:59] before you're supposed to sign

[1:43:01] up you only speak to the item

[1:43:01] on the agenda.

[1:43:02] you can speak to that at public

[1:43:03] forum.

[1:43:05] I saw you signed at that time.

[1:43:06] well, thank you, mayor.

[1:43:06] you're welcome.

[1:43:09] ok, that concludes a public

[1:43:09] forum on this.

[1:43:10] I mean does concludes the

[1:43:11] people who signed up to speak

[1:43:16] on this item um, there's a

[1:43:16] motion on the floor council

[1:43:20] member parker, can we get a

[1:43:22] quick overview of this project

[1:43:23] , mr. Claybon?

[1:43:23] sure.

[1:43:27] I'd be happy to talk to that

[1:43:28] tom claiborne's director.

[1:43:30] so this project it's a contract

[1:43:35] for a design for a traffic

[1:43:36] signal at tesla park beverley

[1:43:39] road that intersection the city

[1:43:43] when we receive requests for

[1:43:46] new traffic signals we have a

[1:43:47] traffic signal index that we

[1:43:48] look at.

[1:43:50] so we've got to keep man not

[1:43:53] every intersection meets the

[1:43:54] criteria for a traffic signal

[1:43:55] so it's got to meet certain

[1:43:58] criteria or standards out there

[1:43:59] that that's got to meet.

[1:44:01] but if you just meet those we

[1:44:02] annazette for crash data and

[1:44:06] for traffic volumes and then we

[1:44:09] have a system in place where we

[1:44:10] prioritize those based on those

[1:44:13] the lowest currently has thirty

[1:44:13] three different signalized

[1:44:16] intersections on it.

[1:44:17] this intersections the number

[1:44:20] five on that list it is one

[1:44:21] of the higher crash rates over

[1:44:24] the last three years fifteen

[1:44:25] thousand eighty one crashes

[1:44:27] that could be prevented our

[1:44:28] traffic signal.

[1:44:29] so what we're seeing is with

[1:44:32] the volume on track on tazewell

[1:44:32] there's not a lot

[1:44:33] of opportunity for gaps coming

[1:44:33] off the road.

[1:44:36] so what this signal will do

[1:44:39] is allow for gaps for those

[1:44:40] folks coming out probably it

[1:44:43] will also help with brackley

[1:44:44] which is also near there as

[1:44:47] well with gaps so and could you

[1:44:50] speak to the amount of time

[1:44:51] given for the study to be

[1:44:54] carried out so the the the

[1:44:58] design itself we're looking at

[1:44:59] what's the best way to

[1:45:02] implement the project?

[1:45:03] so the immediate need is the

[1:45:06] traffic signal.

[1:45:07] we've done some preliminary

[1:45:11] analysis and long term there

[1:45:12] needs to be a turn lanes on

[1:45:14] beverley and tazewell much

[1:45:15] bigger project that we don't

[1:45:16] have funding for for

[1:45:19] construction but we feel like

[1:45:20] it's really more of a vision

[1:45:23] zero quick build initiative if

[1:45:24] we can get a signal and now we

[1:45:26] can prevent some of these

[1:45:27] accidents long term.

[1:45:30] we've got a corridor study on

[1:45:31] central park that we're going

[1:45:32] to be working with tpo on.

[1:45:35] we will be talking to tehran

[1:45:35] about those opportunities and

[1:45:38] long term that intersection

[1:45:39] will need turn lanes at some

[1:45:39] point.

[1:45:43] so the signal we're putting in

[1:45:44] we're going to try to do that

[1:45:45] such a way is we don't have to

[1:45:46] rip it out and rebuild it.

[1:45:49] but the signal and a location

[1:45:50] where the road is wide and it's

[1:45:51] important to future those polls

[1:45:54] are in good condition to where

[1:45:55] we don't have to remove them so

[1:45:58] but for the sake just the

[1:45:59] signal that you think it'll

[1:46:00] take a year and a half for

[1:46:02] planning it.

[1:46:03] well, that includes and we

[1:46:06] don't know right now there's a

[1:46:06] lot of utilities we've got to

[1:46:07] work with.

[1:46:10] there could be some rodway if

[1:46:11] we have to set the poles wider

[1:46:11] than the existing roadways will

[1:46:14] be acquiring possibly.

[1:46:14] right.

[1:46:15] we don't know yet.

[1:46:16] we're going to get into that.

[1:46:17] but this timing allows for that

[1:46:18] whole process.

[1:46:21] >> ok, thank council member

[1:46:25] thomas.

[1:46:26] yes, I'm aware of problems in

[1:46:29] that then intersection for

[1:46:30] quite a long time and so I

[1:46:33] would defer to director labor's

[1:46:34] expertize on it and I know that

[1:46:38] some improvements been needed.

[1:46:39] so I see this is just a step in

[1:46:39] that direction.

[1:46:44] thank you.

[1:46:45] any further comments or

[1:46:45] questions seeing none of those

[1:46:48] in favor please I and he

[1:46:51] opposed motion carries twelve

[1:46:55] erm as the resolution

[1:46:56] authorizing the mayor to

[1:46:57] approve and adopt the city

[1:46:57] of knoxville's parks and

[1:46:59] recreation master plan as

[1:47:00] prepared by perez planning and

[1:47:06] design ok council members we

[1:47:07] have several people signed up

[1:47:10] to speak on this item just

[1:47:11] we'll start with those signed

[1:47:15] up to speak in favor first as

[1:47:19] jean fits you mr you can come

[1:47:19] to the podium said your name

[1:47:20] and address for the record and

[1:47:23] you'll have up to three minutes

[1:47:26] to address council.

[1:47:27] my name jean fitzhugh.

[1:47:29] I live at two to one each point

[1:47:29] .

[1:47:30] I'm really looking forward to

[1:47:31] walking home tonight over our

[1:47:33] beautiful pedestrian bridge.

[1:47:34] it's almost my bedtime.

[1:47:38] I'm a retired professor at the

[1:47:41] university of tennessee in

[1:47:42] kinesiology, recreation and

[1:47:45] sport studies and over the past

[1:47:46] twenty five years a team

[1:47:49] of faculty and students we've

[1:47:50] been engaged within the park

[1:47:54] system to study how people how

[1:47:56] physically active or people at

[1:48:01] our parks and on our greenway's

[1:48:01] .

[1:48:02] over that time we've learned

[1:48:02] about who's using the

[1:48:05] greenway's the parks, how are

[1:48:06] they using it, why are they

[1:48:08] using it?

[1:48:12] basically if you name the park

[1:48:13] one of your local parks, we

[1:48:14] could go in and tell you

[1:48:17] exactly what type of people are

[1:48:21] attracted to it and possibly

[1:48:22] what could be done to improve

[1:48:25] it and make more attractive

[1:48:26] along that line.

[1:48:31] we've we've transitioned a

[1:48:32] little bit to where we're

[1:48:34] seeing interventions being

[1:48:35] developed in our parks.

[1:48:36] >> but the research that we've

[1:48:39] done you is really limited

[1:48:39] because we're focusing strictly

[1:48:42] on physical activity.

[1:48:44] we're not able to tell the

[1:48:47] finest with parks and

[1:48:49] recreation what they need to do

[1:48:51] , how they need to do it in

[1:48:52] order to improve the parks and

[1:48:54] that's where this master plan

[1:48:54] comes into play.

[1:48:58] they've taken methodologies

[1:49:02] that are based and I say really

[1:49:06] good science and then gold

[1:49:06] standards on how to approach to

[1:49:10] learn about how we in the city

[1:49:11] of knoxville can improve our

[1:49:14] park system, what we need to

[1:49:15] improve and the process that we

[1:49:18] need to follow to improve it.

[1:49:19] and from an academic

[1:49:21] perspective as a scholar who

[1:49:22] studied all of the

[1:49:25] methodologies related to

[1:49:26] physical activity and parks and

[1:49:30] recreation in greenways, I

[1:49:31] think they've done a great job.

[1:49:33] I think the master plan you

[1:49:34] have in your hands right now I

[1:49:37] want to assure you it's it's a

[1:49:41] case study on how to go about

[1:49:45] creating a master plan, a long

[1:49:46] range plan for communities

[1:49:50] metropolitan areas to improve

[1:49:51] these fine amenities that we

[1:49:53] have to that really increase

[1:49:57] our quality of life and that's

[1:49:57] what it's all about right now.

[1:50:01] and as an epidemiologic is it's

[1:50:02] all about disease prevention

[1:50:03] too for me because the more

[1:50:05] people get to the parks, the

[1:50:09] more people are going to be

[1:50:10] living longer, increasing their

[1:50:12] quality of life.

[1:50:13] so I really do ask you to

[1:50:16] consider this as a really good

[1:50:17] case study.

[1:50:18] thank you.

[1:50:21] next person signed up to speak

[1:50:22] in favor of this item is jack

[1:50:24] coaker.

[1:50:25] mr coker, if you could come to

[1:50:28] the podium, set your name and

[1:50:29] address for the record and

[1:50:29] you'll have up to three minutes

[1:50:38] to address council.

[1:50:38] hi good evening mayor and

[1:50:39] members of council.

[1:50:41] my name is jack coker and I

[1:50:42] live at twenty four seven coker

[1:50:42] avenue.

[1:50:45] I also have the honor

[1:50:46] of serving as president of the

[1:50:46] bell morris neighborhood

[1:50:49] through that role I became very

[1:50:49] familiar with the parks and

[1:50:52] recreation master plan update

[1:50:53] and its community engagement

[1:50:54] process when this update was

[1:50:57] first announced there was a

[1:50:58] great deal of excitement in our

[1:50:58] neighborhood for decades

[1:51:01] residents talked about the

[1:51:02] potential for a greenway in

[1:51:02] park along the cube owned

[1:51:05] parcels bisect but morse that

[1:51:09] opportunity was obvious to

[1:51:09] those who live there but it

[1:51:11] never quite made its way into

[1:51:12] the broader city conversation

[1:51:13] during the public engagement

[1:51:16] period our neighbors organized

[1:51:17] many of us placed pins along

[1:51:18] that corridor on the

[1:51:20] interactive map provided by

[1:51:20] parks and recreation.

[1:51:23] we attended public meetings and

[1:51:24] even hosted a walk through

[1:51:25] of the corridor so staff could

[1:51:28] see the opportunity firsthand.

[1:51:28] several members of the parks

[1:51:29] and recreation team attended

[1:51:32] that visit.

[1:51:33] throughout this process we felt

[1:51:35] very hurt when the department

[1:51:36] asked for public input our

[1:51:36] neighborhood gave it and the

[1:51:39] trail we envisioned is now

[1:51:40] included in the draft plan

[1:51:40] before you tonight.

[1:51:43] that is exactly how public

[1:51:44] engagement is supposed to work

[1:51:44] because of the depth

[1:51:47] of outreach and the thoughtful

[1:51:48] work that has gone into the

[1:51:48] plan.

[1:51:51] I encourage you to adopt it.

[1:51:52] over the past year the

[1:51:52] knoxville community has

[1:51:55] provided meaningful input and

[1:51:55] the parks and recreation

[1:51:56] department have translated that

[1:51:58] engagement into a strong

[1:51:59] roadmap for the decades ahead.

[1:52:00] thank you for your time.

[1:52:21] thank next person sign up to

[1:52:22] speak in favor of item twelve m

[1:52:23] is carol evans you can state

[1:52:25] your name and address for the

[1:52:26] record and you'll have up to

[1:52:27] three minutes very short.

[1:52:28] carol evans thirty five oh five

[1:52:29] kester would drive three seven

[1:52:29] nine one eight.

[1:52:30] um I'd like to start by really

[1:52:31] applauding you for investing in

[1:52:32] in the city's master plan

[1:52:32] related to parks and

[1:52:33] recreation.

[1:52:33] as jean and evans mentioned,

[1:52:35] the process is very thorough

[1:52:36] and very well executed and I

[1:52:39] think the city staff and the

[1:52:39] consultants really went were

[1:52:40] very, very diligent and getting

[1:52:43] community input and I think it

[1:52:44] reflects that in the plan.

[1:52:47] I think the plan is important

[1:52:48] because it really helps all

[1:52:51] of us understand the wishes and

[1:52:52] priorities for those who live

[1:52:54] in knoxville around parks and

[1:52:54] outdoors.

[1:52:55] a plan like this really brings

[1:52:58] us together the public sector,

[1:53:01] the private sector and the

[1:53:02] nonprofit sector so that we can

[1:53:05] all maximize our resources and

[1:53:06] collectively focus on the

[1:53:07] projects that the community has

[1:53:10] told us that they want from

[1:53:11] legacy parks perspective I'm

[1:53:14] especially pleased to see that

[1:53:15] a very high value of those

[1:53:18] community input sessions was

[1:53:19] placed on conservation of our

[1:53:21] open space and the desire for

[1:53:22] more natural trails and outdoor

[1:53:25] programs.

[1:53:25] knoxville is absolutely blessed

[1:53:29] as you know with the gift

[1:53:29] of geography.

[1:53:30] we have a river running through

[1:53:33] the heart of our city forested

[1:53:34] ridges, rolling valleys and

[1:53:37] spectacular views we have with

[1:53:38] other communities envy.

[1:53:41] we have a vibrant downtown.

[1:53:42] we have strong neighborhoods, a

[1:53:45] robust business environment and

[1:53:46] you can go for a paddle in the

[1:53:48] middle of the day or do a ten

[1:53:50] mile hike out of the back

[1:53:52] of your your own outdoors.

[1:53:56] so this plan really offers the

[1:53:57] path forward on how we can work

[1:54:00] together to expand and protect

[1:54:01] all of the great things that

[1:54:03] are about knoxville including

[1:54:04] our great parks and our

[1:54:04] outdoors.

[1:54:06] I thank you again for

[1:54:07] commissioning this plan and I

[1:54:11] hope you'll support it.

[1:54:11] thank you.

[1:54:14] we have two people signed up to

[1:54:15] speak in opposition to item

[1:54:16] twelve and we'll start with

[1:54:18] vivian qype misshaped if you

[1:54:19] could come to the podium, state

[1:54:20] your name and address for the

[1:54:22] record you'll have up to three

[1:54:33] minutes to address council

[1:54:34] vivian qype thirty six fifteen

[1:54:37] mlk knoxville thirty seven nine

[1:54:44] one four ring ring ring ring

[1:54:45] ring ring.

[1:54:45] hello.

[1:54:48] hey how you doing?

[1:54:48] I'm good.

[1:54:49] what's up?

[1:54:50] I'm just calling to

[1:54:52] congratulate you.

[1:54:53] congratulate me for what?

[1:54:56] you know for getting appointed

[1:54:57] to the new holiway park

[1:55:00] advisory group who homi nobody

[1:55:00] call me.

[1:55:01] what do you mean are you

[1:55:04] telling me for such an

[1:55:05] important group you did not get

[1:55:06] a personal phone call asking

[1:55:07] you to serve?

[1:55:08] no I did not.

[1:55:11] this is news to me.

[1:55:11] wow.

[1:55:12] maybe you need to check your

[1:55:15] email maybe isn't in spam.

[1:55:19] >> listen I'm glad you're on

[1:55:20] the cag no one from the

[1:55:21] community or those who fought

[1:55:23] for that part were asked to

[1:55:24] serve seriously.

[1:55:27] >> oh yeah seriously.

[1:55:27] listen up.

[1:55:31] they got that big mass park

[1:55:32] plan coming up a city council

[1:55:35] meeting but like where is sure

[1:55:38] how we park in that mix seems

[1:55:39] like a big rush to push a plan

[1:55:42] through that's going to last

[1:55:42] ten years.

[1:55:42] true.

[1:55:43] true.

[1:55:46] they should definitely delay

[1:55:47] and make sure all the people

[1:55:47] are heard.

[1:55:48] yeah, sure.

[1:55:51] how report needs to be a part

[1:55:54] of that master plan.

[1:55:55] look, I just wanted to call and

[1:55:57] say congratulations.

[1:55:58] some of those on that list

[1:55:59] of seventeen were for sale in

[1:56:01] the park.

[1:56:02] I do not understand how they

[1:56:05] were selected to serve on a

[1:56:05] visionary buuck.

[1:56:08] yeah, I can see why the

[1:56:09] community is upset and

[1:56:13] concerned especially after that

[1:56:13] first list.

[1:56:14] look, I just want to say

[1:56:17] congratulations.

[1:56:21] I'm gonna hold you up but best

[1:56:25] believe we will be at the

[1:56:26] meeting on the 24th and every

[1:56:26] single meeting that's held

[1:56:28] there after kind of like the

[1:56:29] word says, you know, watchman

[1:56:32] on the wall as you guys talk.

[1:56:36] >> remember we need to be part

[1:56:37] of that master plan.

[1:56:40] the part belongs to the people

[1:56:41] of knoxville and knox county

[1:56:44] and the people want open

[1:56:45] spaces, a public park and they

[1:56:47] want those padlocks out the

[1:56:48] gate.

[1:56:48] ok, ok.

[1:56:51] I hear you.

[1:56:52] I'll remember the people.

[1:56:52] thanks.

[1:56:54] I'll see the twenty fourth

[1:57:02] piece at ok next person to

[1:57:03] speak in opposition to item

[1:57:16] twelve am is kent mineau mr

[1:57:17] monroe if you could state your

[1:57:21] name address the record you'll

[1:57:21] have up to three minutes to

[1:57:22] address council.

[1:57:22] yes thank you.

[1:57:25] I'm kettmann I live at three

[1:57:25] one one west glenwood avenue.

[1:57:28] good evening mayor council

[1:57:29] members first of all I want to

[1:57:32] say everything people said in

[1:57:33] favor of the master plan it and

[1:57:36] the quality people who worked

[1:57:37] on it I completely agree with

[1:57:40] speaking in opposition to

[1:57:41] approving it despite the fact

[1:57:41] there's a lot of great stuff in

[1:57:42] it.

[1:57:44] the parts about tree canopy are

[1:57:45] fantastic but then again it

[1:57:48] proposes putting astroturf on

[1:57:48] more acreage.

[1:57:52] how can an administration

[1:57:52] committed to environmental

[1:57:53] goals put toxic heat absorbing

[1:57:55] plastic on fields where

[1:57:56] children play?

[1:58:00] but the main reason for my

[1:58:00] objection is its length.

[1:58:03] it's too long for hardworking

[1:58:04] city council members to have

[1:58:05] command of all it says in time

[1:58:07] for an informed vote.

[1:58:08] but there's an additional

[1:58:11] question about this practice

[1:58:12] putting a big pile of paper in

[1:58:13] front of an elected official

[1:58:15] and then saying vote on it

[1:58:16] quick or you're not doing your

[1:58:16] job.

[1:58:19] it goes back to our budget

[1:58:20] audit of last year and I

[1:58:20] appreciate the remarks.

[1:58:22] council members have made about

[1:58:23] that.

[1:58:23] the auditor remarked that the

[1:58:26] deficiencies they uncovered

[1:58:27] quote hurt public trust and

[1:58:30] relationship with partners.

[1:58:31] auditor jennifer mcmahon met

[1:58:35] mentana said she felt it was

[1:58:38] pervasive quotes from a report.

[1:58:39] now I know there's a lot

[1:58:40] of distrust for government

[1:58:40] right now.

[1:58:43] all over our country but we do

[1:58:45] well not to get used to it.

[1:58:46] according to the world

[1:58:47] happiness report which I always

[1:58:49] check out when it's published

[1:58:50] every few years, trust in

[1:58:51] government is one of the most

[1:58:53] crucial attributes of social

[1:58:54] well-being when people don't

[1:58:54] trust their government, the

[1:58:57] results show an increase in

[1:58:58] crime, mental health issues,

[1:59:01] even physical diseases.

[1:59:02] the deficiencies cited by the

[1:59:03] audit auditing committee were

[1:59:05] well publicized.

[1:59:06] now I know the city has

[1:59:09] responded to city finance

[1:59:10] department has been meeting

[1:59:10] with city's audit committee

[1:59:13] about corrective actions and

[1:59:13] that's great.

[1:59:15] but you're the people we see

[1:59:17] the city you city council

[1:59:18] members, many of you endorsed

[1:59:20] by my organization need to make

[1:59:21] your votes with your with our

[1:59:24] happiness and our trust

[1:59:28] uppermost in your minds to back

[1:59:29] to the master plan.

[1:59:30] I'm not saying it totally or

[1:59:32] anything but this habit of not

[1:59:33] giving this council adequate

[1:59:34] time to check out all the

[1:59:36] details and and expecting them

[1:59:37] to make a quick vote while

[1:59:39] pointing out a bunch

[1:59:40] of features they're likely to

[1:59:40] approve of.

[1:59:43] that's part of the pervasive

[1:59:43] problem.

[1:59:44] the auditors we're talking

[1:59:45] about simon williams from my

[1:59:48] daughter's journey put it right

[1:59:48] what many community based

[1:59:51] nonprofits are experiencing

[1:59:52] reflects a broader systemic

[1:59:55] issue in how minority that

[1:59:56] organizations are resourced

[1:59:57] across the regions their

[1:59:59] organizations often receive the

[2:00:00] bare minimum in funding while

[2:00:03] being asked to carry

[2:00:04] disproportionate administrative

[2:00:07] and reporting burden.

[2:00:08] give it 60 days.

[2:00:09] this will give council members

[2:00:12] a chance to comb through it for

[2:00:12] any potential problems and then

[2:00:14] discuss those things with their

[2:00:15] constituents.

[2:00:16] don't wait for the city's

[2:00:16] department heads to come back

[2:00:19] on april 2013 and report on the

[2:00:19] new processes.

[2:00:23] do the right thing now get the

[2:00:23] budget and overstuff oversight

[2:00:27] stuff right and you take a big

[2:00:27] step forward.

[2:00:28] your time is up.

[2:00:30] thank you so much.

[2:00:31] >> thank you.

[2:00:33] thank you council members.

[2:00:38] I just wanted to first thank

[2:00:39] all the people who participated

[2:00:42] in this almost year long

[2:00:42] process.

[2:00:43] we've had a lot of meetings

[2:00:46] many of you were part of that.

[2:00:47] we've had meetings in all parts

[2:00:49] of town and all different types

[2:00:50] of venues.

[2:00:51] people could participate and

[2:00:53] give input and ideas

[2:00:54] electronically in person by

[2:00:56] email.

[2:00:58] I want to give a special note

[2:00:58] of gratitude to cheryl olian,

[2:01:01] aaron browning, our parks

[2:01:02] director and deputy director.

[2:01:05] they've done an excellent job

[2:01:05] leading this effort.

[2:01:06] they are both here to answer

[2:01:08] any questions you may have.

[2:01:09] also our consultant carlos

[2:01:09] perez is here.

[2:01:12] I believe he's had an

[2:01:13] opportunity to meet with

[2:01:16] council members and I just want

[2:01:17] to say that we needed this

[2:01:20] updated master plan for a bunch

[2:01:21] of reasons.

[2:01:22] first, the last one we adopted

[2:01:25] in the city is two thousand

[2:01:25] eight.

[2:01:25] that's almost twenty years old.

[2:01:28] our needs have evolved and we

[2:01:29] wanted to touch base with our

[2:01:32] community.

[2:01:33] what do they what's working

[2:01:33] well for our parks?

[2:01:36] what needs improvement and more

[2:01:37] importantly with all the things

[2:01:39] that we want to do, how do we

[2:01:39] prioritize those?

[2:01:40] so that was an important thing

[2:01:41] to update it since it hadn't

[2:01:43] been done since 2008.

[2:01:45] the second reason this is time

[2:01:48] sensitive we need to have an

[2:01:49] updated master plan to be

[2:01:52] eligible for certain grants

[2:01:52] including some of which are due

[2:01:55] april 1st those community

[2:01:56] meetings for the holstrom of a

[2:01:59] park and ned mcwherter park to

[2:02:00] make us eligible for those

[2:02:03] grants are happening later this

[2:02:07] week and first last and and

[2:02:08] most important it's a framework

[2:02:11] for the future of our parks.

[2:02:12] it's not a plan.

[2:02:13] there's no single park plan in

[2:02:14] there.

[2:02:15] it's consistent with the need

[2:02:18] to see it as a whole holistic

[2:02:19] approach and we are also moving

[2:02:22] forward with a robust very,

[2:02:23] very well supported by staff

[2:02:44] and others vision to meet a set

[2:02:45] of meetings that start next

[2:02:46] week for the holiway park

[2:02:47] future next steps.

[2:02:47] so these are not mutually

[2:02:48] exclusive.

[2:02:49] we can do both and and I urge

[2:02:49] you to support us tonight.

[2:02:50] I think council member grant

[2:02:51] was first on we we do need a

[2:02:52] motion to have a debate motion

[2:02:54] made to prove has been made to

[2:02:55] approve and seconded council

[2:02:57] member grant?

[2:02:59] >> yes, I have actually I got a

[2:03:00] couple of questions for our

[2:03:01] parks and rec director mrs

[2:03:01] cheryl.

[2:03:15] she doesn't mind coming up for

[2:03:15] good evening.

[2:03:20] >> thank for taking the time to

[2:03:20] be here.

[2:03:21] I just have a couple

[2:03:23] of questions.

[2:03:24] first I definitely want to say

[2:03:25] thank you.

[2:03:26] I notice has been somewhat of a

[2:03:27] robust process.

[2:03:31] there's been a lot going on

[2:03:32] throughout the city and so you

[2:03:34] know, I do want to give credit

[2:03:35] to you and your department one

[2:03:39] of the things I would like to

[2:03:40] ask because I know there was

[2:03:42] mention of a deadline can you

[2:03:44] can you go a little bit more in

[2:03:47] detail in terms of what that

[2:03:50] deadline is and what exactly

[2:03:51] we're having to do as a council

[2:03:52] body here tonight?

[2:03:55] so you so you can move forward

[2:03:55] with that application.

[2:03:58] good afternoon.

[2:03:59] cheryl lee, director of parks

[2:03:59] and recreation.

[2:04:02] thank you for that question.

[2:04:03] the deadline really is one

[2:04:04] of the things that happens the

[2:04:07] state is obligated us to do a

[2:04:10] master plan and to do so we

[2:04:11] have to have public input and

[2:04:13] so we are doing that public

[2:04:14] input.

[2:04:15] the biggest thing is we have to

[2:04:17] also have it authorized and

[2:04:18] approved legislatively by the

[2:04:22] governing body to basically

[2:04:22] have a qualified master plan

[2:04:25] of any kind.

[2:04:26] and so the deadline really was

[2:04:30] we've been working on this for

[2:04:31] a year and it's time for the

[2:04:33] approval of it.

[2:04:34] I think the mayor talked about

[2:04:36] us trying to apply for a couple

[2:04:37] of grants.

[2:04:38] that is one of the deadlines

[2:04:41] but the biggest thing is this

[2:04:42] plan has been out for about a

[2:04:44] year for about a year.

[2:04:45] it's been out for public

[2:04:48] comment since january so that

[2:04:49] the basically the meets of this

[2:04:52] of this plan has already been

[2:04:53] out for more than 30 days.

[2:04:57] so there's been that

[2:04:57] opportunity for any and

[2:04:58] everyone to review that to

[2:05:00] review the document.

[2:05:04] thank you.

[2:05:08] council member debartolo oh,

[2:05:09] I'm sorry that were you I

[2:05:12] thought you were done.

[2:05:12] we don't know.

[2:05:15] ok, so I know that's fine.

[2:05:16] just wanted to speak to a

[2:05:19] couple of things because I want

[2:05:22] us to take the time moving

[2:05:23] forward and consider the optics

[2:05:27] of things right when you have a

[2:05:30] drawn out process like this and

[2:05:31] two weeks before the deadline

[2:05:35] it's kind put in front of us.

[2:05:36] it's almost kind of like we

[2:05:38] have no choice but to move

[2:05:39] forward.

[2:05:40] right, because we want to be

[2:05:40] able to to meet this deadline

[2:05:45] and so I'm excited about this

[2:05:45] master plan.

[2:05:48] I have seen some things that

[2:05:49] are questionable obviously how

[2:05:54] we park being a a topic we have

[2:05:55] to do better.

[2:05:56] I mean there's some things that

[2:05:57] I am questioning and there are

[2:05:59] some things that I am concerned

[2:06:00] about the master plan in it not

[2:06:03] including much of how we part

[2:06:07] now this time last year to how

[2:06:08] we park wasn't a topic because

[2:06:08] there were there was intentions

[2:06:11] to do something with it that

[2:06:11] matters that matters when

[2:06:15] you're here in the community

[2:06:15] asking for feedback.

[2:06:18] >> most people don't know you

[2:06:19] know, up until actually until

[2:06:22] june 30th it's still a special

[2:06:25] event space right will be

[2:06:26] hopefully transitioning it over

[2:06:26] to you.

[2:06:30] but when you put survey out and

[2:06:31] say hey, what do you want us to

[2:06:32] do with our parks?

[2:06:33] how we park isn't considered

[2:06:34] and so I just kind of wish

[2:06:37] there was more of a campaign

[2:06:38] and let people know like hey

[2:06:39] joe how he park is now going to

[2:06:41] be a part of our master plan

[2:06:42] back in january or back in

[2:06:45] september when it was realized

[2:06:45] that we weren't moving forward

[2:06:48] with the other option.

[2:06:49] and so yeah, that's water under

[2:06:52] the bridge right now.

[2:06:54] but you know, I don't want to

[2:06:54] take away from the work you put

[2:06:57] in and carlos but I do want to

[2:06:58] make sure that we're mindful

[2:07:01] of this because we can't let

[2:07:05] our lack of effort in doing

[2:07:05] things in a timely manner put

[2:07:08] us in a position as councilor

[2:07:09] where here we are two weeks

[2:07:13] before deadline and we're

[2:07:13] forced to pretty much vote.

[2:07:17] if not, we won't support that

[2:07:20] we need in terms of grants so I

[2:07:21] appreciate your effort.

[2:07:22] I just want you to know that I

[2:07:23] definitely appreciate your

[2:07:24] effort and I look forward to

[2:07:28] this to this process and seeing

[2:07:28] how it turns out.

[2:07:29] thank you.

[2:07:32] council member arlington.

[2:07:32] um, yes.

[2:07:33] thank you.

[2:07:35] so at first glance I found the

[2:07:36] two hundred twenty four page

[2:07:39] study overwhelming and then I

[2:07:43] dug into it and I'm impressed

[2:07:43] with the rigor with the

[2:07:47] organization and I'm excited

[2:07:48] about the future of anoxia.

[2:07:48] we're knoxville's indoor and

[2:07:50] outdoor spaces.

[2:07:53] this is a community road map

[2:07:54] for our active and passive

[2:07:58] public spaces and really the

[2:07:58] next faster than taking this

[2:08:01] this road work and setting

[2:08:02] priorities, allocating funds,

[2:08:06] applying for funds and then

[2:08:09] competent execution and it

[2:08:10] is helpful it's been helpful to

[2:08:14] me to have conversations with

[2:08:14] my constituents that this is a

[2:08:18] framework for the next level

[2:08:19] of discussion, be a tool to

[2:08:20] help city staff come back to

[2:08:22] this council with what they

[2:08:25] hope the next steps would be.

[2:08:28] the plan is required by the

[2:08:29] bitd to secure funding.

[2:08:32] we need that funding.

[2:08:33] the plan includes a list

[2:08:34] of private state federal grants

[2:08:37] that the city can plot for that

[2:08:38] on page two or four three two

[2:08:38] eight eight.

[2:08:40] if you're wondering it includes

[2:08:41] criteria that city capital

[2:08:44] projects committee will use to

[2:08:44] make these decisions.

[2:08:48] that's page 212 217 page one

[2:08:48] ninety nine.

[2:08:52] I was mind blowing to me it was

[2:08:53] it was a helpful framework to

[2:08:55] understand how to go back to

[2:08:56] the beginning and how to go to

[2:08:57] the end and basically it

[2:09:00] recommended where basketball

[2:09:01] courts should be, where tennis

[2:09:01] courts should be.

[2:09:04] we're square fields should be

[2:09:04] where swimming pools should be.

[2:09:07] we're walking trails.

[2:09:08] there was an incredible thing

[2:09:11] where it's I've got a page here

[2:09:12] you can't see it but basically

[2:09:15] it takes indoor cintas walking

[2:09:16] lubes natural areas, water

[2:09:19] accessories, parks, pools, all

[2:09:19] these different recreation

[2:09:23] opportunities and it tells us

[2:09:24] the condition that those spaces

[2:09:26] are in and what the recommended

[2:09:27] for those places are and I

[2:09:31] found that very helpful a great

[2:09:31] inventory about deciding what

[2:09:35] we are going to do next.

[2:09:39] I would like to ask well what

[2:09:40] so I was impressed with the

[2:09:40] public participation.

[2:09:43] I participated myself both

[2:09:44] online and in go into meetings

[2:09:47] and fountain city happens to be

[2:09:48] very active when it comes to

[2:09:48] their community rec center.

[2:09:51] there's baseball fields so they

[2:09:52] showed out in droves and so I

[2:09:55] went to two very well attended

[2:09:55] meetings.

[2:09:56] I heard that some were not well

[2:09:58] attended but again had the

[2:10:02] opportunity to go online and do

[2:10:06] these things so question I have

[2:10:09] well I'll begin with this.

[2:10:10] I think it's it is it's

[2:10:12] rightful to think about holiway

[2:10:16] park and I personally

[2:10:19] appreciate the manner in which

[2:10:20] this plan talks about how we

[2:10:24] park and it's very it's not

[2:10:24] very much there.

[2:10:25] it's on page one seventy five

[2:10:28] under neighborhood park vision

[2:10:29] so it calls schwarzbart a

[2:10:32] neighborhood park and it has a

[2:10:33] little arrow out.

[2:10:36] this is discussions ongoing for

[2:10:37] chally park to be managed by

[2:10:40] praed parks and rec department

[2:10:43] starting in twenty twenty six

[2:10:48] discussions are going.

[2:10:49] I love that the plan does not

[2:10:50] prescribe what we do with the

[2:10:51] park except describes it as a

[2:10:55] neighborhood park which while

[2:10:56] we really want to ask two

[2:10:59] questions one at will parks and

[2:11:03] recreation department be taking

[2:11:04] over the management of how we

[2:11:06] park after the current legends

[2:11:07] contract expires this summer.

[2:11:10] >> mr. Debartolo, I'm going to

[2:11:11] be proposing that in the budget

[2:11:14] and so with that change will

[2:11:18] come money that that cheryl

[2:11:19] lee's team will need to have

[2:11:19] that.

[2:11:20] so yes, that is the plan

[2:11:22] subject to your review and

[2:11:23] approval this body will have to

[2:11:26] make sure that we have the

[2:11:27] resources such a high park can

[2:11:30] be managed at the same level as

[2:11:30] parks across the city.

[2:11:32] ok, and then secondly I have

[2:11:34] is the creation of the highway

[2:11:35] park advisory group which we've

[2:11:38] heard some feedback on first

[2:11:39] public meeting is next week.

[2:11:42] and so my question is this is a

[2:11:42] statement from from you mayor

[2:11:43] kincannon.

[2:11:44] as promised, the city is moving

[2:11:45] forward collaboratively towards

[2:11:46] a community driven future for

[2:11:49] charlie park.

[2:11:50] so my question is how will the

[2:11:52] charkaoui park advisory group

[2:11:53] create a collaborative and

[2:11:57] community driven process?

[2:12:00] well, I I as I'll try to answer

[2:12:03] this first is the the process

[2:12:04] going to start next week and

[2:12:08] the community advisory group,

[2:12:09] this group of people there's

[2:12:09] people who have a lot

[2:12:10] of different perspectives and

[2:12:12] backgrounds as someone said,

[2:12:13] there are some people on that

[2:12:16] group who were very maybe

[2:12:16] supportive of the emerald

[2:12:17] initiative.

[2:12:18] there's others who are not

[2:12:20] supportive that that's that's

[2:12:23] old news that we're moving

[2:12:24] beyond.

[2:12:25] we have a clean slate and we're

[2:12:28] going to use the information we

[2:12:29] have collected from the

[2:12:31] twenty nineteen vision program

[2:12:31] .

[2:12:32] the idea that this is going to

[2:12:33] be a park now not just a park

[2:12:36] in name obviously the named

[2:12:36] shehabi park's been around one

[2:12:39] hundred years but it has been

[2:12:40] operated as an event space for

[2:12:43] I don't know decades.

[2:12:44] so we're going to have

[2:12:44] stakeholders from the current

[2:13:05] tenants which is the you know,

[2:13:06] ace jim the fair, the zoo, the

[2:13:07] museum also nearby

[2:13:07] neighborhoods business folks

[2:13:08] and they're going to convene

[2:13:09] and have a group of a set

[2:13:10] of meetings to talk about what

[2:13:10] the vision should be.

[2:13:11] what does the neighborhood park

[2:13:12] look like to one person might

[2:13:12] be different from another

[2:13:12] person.

[2:13:13] some people the focus is on

[2:13:14] sports.

[2:13:14] other people might be passive

[2:13:15] park and trees and gardens.

[2:13:16] can we serve all of those also

[2:13:17] it's going to be a way for

[2:13:18] people to have to be a funnel

[2:13:19] for information so they know

[2:13:21] what constraints we are as far

[2:13:22] as you know, underwater issues

[2:13:26] hydrogel cast and all of that

[2:13:30] but also a funnel out a spout

[2:13:30] or a spigot of information out

[2:13:33] to the community.

[2:13:34] so the group receives

[2:13:34] information in and shares

[2:13:37] information out.

[2:13:41] so I don't know if miss justice

[2:13:42] you you and your team are sort

[2:13:44] of leading this effort along

[2:13:44] with other staff.

[2:13:48] so there's a community there's

[2:13:49] the cpa, the park advisory

[2:13:52] group but there's going to be a

[2:13:52] lot of staff there.

[2:13:54] I'm, you know, very supportive

[2:13:56] of this process.

[2:13:57] I'm not dictating you know,

[2:13:59] we're not dictating the outcome

[2:13:59] .

[2:14:00] we're just saying here we are

[2:14:01] to support this.

[2:14:03] barbara mcmurry is going to

[2:14:04] help facilitate it similar to

[2:14:07] what we had outside facilitated

[2:14:08] for the south waterfront

[2:14:09] misjudges.

[2:14:12] could you speak maybe elaborate

[2:14:13] a little bit more?

[2:14:14] we're working very closely with

[2:14:16] the council member of grant and

[2:14:20] council member healthlink on

[2:14:21] how this can move forward and

[2:14:24] mr justice, maybe you can

[2:14:25] elaborate a little so we will

[2:14:28] ask people to come together in

[2:14:29] these workshops to sit around

[2:14:29] the table and have

[2:14:32] conversations and do workshop

[2:14:33] activities where we share

[2:14:36] stories and memories of the

[2:14:39] park and also what's important

[2:14:40] to people to see as the park

[2:14:43] grows and takes shape to really

[2:14:44] be what knoxville needs for the

[2:14:44] future.

[2:14:48] so how we do that is we've

[2:14:49] asked people to be a member

[2:14:51] of this group and represent

[2:14:52] their community but also share

[2:14:55] information back from the

[2:14:55] group.

[2:14:59] so it's you know, the funnel

[2:14:59] of information works both ways.

[2:15:00] so we're really excited about

[2:15:03] bringing people together to

[2:15:04] learn those community insights

[2:15:05] and what people feel

[2:15:10] is important for the future.

[2:15:11] I'm not sure who is next.

[2:15:13] maybe council member honeycut.

[2:15:14] I actually think councilwoman

[2:15:18] adams or remember I spoke with

[2:15:21] council member adams I think

[2:15:22] yours was next that there's a

[2:15:24] lot of light so a lot of lights

[2:15:24] .

[2:15:25] um, thank you.

[2:15:26] I wanted to say thank you to

[2:15:29] parks rec for all the work with

[2:15:32] the survey and certainly to

[2:15:33] carlos perez for all the work

[2:15:36] in putting the plan together.

[2:15:37] I too got to attend some of the

[2:15:39] sessions they were well

[2:15:40] attended where I where I went.

[2:15:41] I was great to see the feedback

[2:15:43] that came back from people and

[2:15:46] just all the exercises to both

[2:15:47] help people understand how the

[2:15:51] information was to be collected

[2:15:52] , what would happen with it and

[2:15:53] then to really engage with the

[2:15:53] different options there.

[2:15:58] um, I also want to acknowledge

[2:16:01] that as a council member I

[2:16:02] benefited greatly from being

[2:16:05] able to sit with mr. Perez and

[2:16:06] have him walk through a very

[2:16:09] robust study.

[2:16:10] I got comments from the public

[2:16:13] about so long how do I go

[2:16:13] through this?

[2:16:14] I shared this with him.

[2:16:16] I know that many people

[2:16:17] experience that but having his

[2:16:20] walk through helped me see the

[2:16:21] highlights and at the end

[2:16:24] of that I did ask is there any

[2:16:25] way that we could have sort

[2:16:28] of a summary dec that could

[2:16:29] have gone out to the public?

[2:16:30] and that's where I really got

[2:16:32] educated on the time frame the

[2:16:33] funding opportunities and how

[2:16:36] important that is that is why

[2:16:37] I'm not supporting postponing

[2:16:37] this tonight.

[2:16:39] I want to make that clear.

[2:16:41] I see how this plan supports

[2:16:43] future good work that the city

[2:16:47] needs but I would ask that for

[2:16:48] future processes of this kind

[2:16:51] of thing that we include in the

[2:16:52] scope when there's a great

[2:16:55] robust study that is dig on the

[2:16:56] study.

[2:16:56] the study is great but that we

[2:16:58] do include a scope that has a

[2:16:59] summary dec that people can can

[2:17:03] benefit from just to make it a

[2:17:03] little bit easier and build in

[2:17:06] a little bit of time for people

[2:17:07] to consume that summary and

[2:17:09] have all of us as ambassadors

[2:17:10] to go out there.

[2:17:13] do you think that helps?

[2:17:14] but overall and I'm not

[2:17:21] speaking to the the c pag group

[2:17:22] that I don't think is part

[2:17:25] of this draft plan.

[2:17:26] I think that's another

[2:17:26] conversation that's really

[2:17:27] important to have.

[2:17:29] but I'm talking about this

[2:17:29] draft plan and I am very

[2:17:32] thankful for it and supportive

[2:17:32] .

[2:17:33] thank you.

[2:17:34] thank you.

[2:17:36] council member pirker thank you

[2:17:37] mayor.

[2:17:40] I had concerns about this study

[2:17:41] that I expressed with the

[2:17:44] consultant from day one the

[2:17:47] framing of the study I found

[2:17:48] quite problematic one aspect

[2:17:51] of it being that there's no

[2:17:51] differentiation between

[2:17:59] residents um proximity to city

[2:18:00] managed amenities and privately

[2:18:03] managed amenities.

[2:18:04] I find that very concerning.

[2:18:07] uh, one reason is because

[2:18:08] throughout this process and

[2:18:12] over the years, uh, my

[2:18:15] community where I currently

[2:18:16] live in east nashville has

[2:18:19] consistently complained about

[2:18:20] uh ballfields that are locked

[2:18:23] up the community and have

[2:18:24] access to those ballfields so

[2:18:25] they don't have that pride and

[2:18:26] ownership over those all fields

[2:18:27] so they don't show up for the

[2:18:28] community meetings and the

[2:18:31] discussion about plans because

[2:18:32] they keep getting ignored.

[2:18:35] we went through a year long

[2:18:35] process.

[2:18:38] that aspect completely ignored

[2:18:41] for a year.

[2:18:45] I just got a complaint today

[2:18:46] about ballfields and how they

[2:18:49] were used over the weekend and

[2:18:50] who has access to them and who

[2:18:55] does not.

[2:18:59] I also got a complaint about

[2:19:00] ned mcwherter park over the

[2:19:03] weekend and the bathmat store

[2:19:04] competition and what's going on

[2:19:08] with the boat ramps at ned

[2:19:09] mcwherter park and I told them

[2:19:12] well I know there's some

[2:19:12] renovations coming but let me

[2:19:15] check into it.

[2:19:19] they took the whole duck that

[2:19:20] the boat paddlers have been

[2:19:23] used and ripped off of the side

[2:19:23] .

[2:19:24] it's now floating down the

[2:19:25] river and now these new docks

[2:19:27] have been put and I guess maybe

[2:19:28] these are the improvements I'd

[2:19:31] give someone a chance to

[2:19:32] explain it to me.

[2:19:36] but these folks are prepared to

[2:19:36] go to thursday's public meeting

[2:19:40] or maybe the one on the

[2:19:40] twenty something because no one

[2:19:43] communicated with them about

[2:19:44] this potential project that it

[2:19:48] seems like we're trying to rush

[2:19:48] ahead for because there's

[2:19:51] potential money that we can

[2:19:51] apply for but we're not working

[2:19:54] with the community that

[2:19:55] actually uses these spaces to

[2:19:59] give them a heads up about

[2:20:00] whether it's going to be a

[2:20:03] temporary interruption for the

[2:20:04] bass masters competition or

[2:20:06] whether this is going to be an

[2:20:10] ongoing long term change.

[2:20:11] and if that's the case, what

[2:20:12] they're telling me is that

[2:20:18] these new motor boat docks are

[2:20:19] not safe for them to use with

[2:20:22] their rowboat.

[2:20:23] so why are we not having a

[2:20:23] conversation?

[2:20:27] I'm I'm more committed to a

[2:20:30] postponement when I see us

[2:20:30] rushing towards projects and

[2:20:33] we're not involving the

[2:20:34] community members who are using

[2:20:37] those amenities.

[2:20:38] it goes back to one of the

[2:20:39] public forum speaker said

[2:20:45] earlier trust is a something we

[2:20:49] have to value during these

[2:20:53] processes maintaining trust

[2:20:54] that the community building

[2:20:56] trust of the community and it

[2:20:57] can't just be parts of the

[2:20:58] community, it can't just be our

[2:21:01] hand-picked community members

[2:21:02] that we put on committees.

[2:21:05] it can't be just the people we

[2:21:07] know and like in love it has to

[2:21:08] be all parts of our community

[2:21:10] that we are working to build

[2:21:12] trust with.

[2:21:13] that means we have to listen to

[2:21:17] them.

[2:21:18] that means we have to slow

[2:21:20] things down when the community

[2:21:21] tells us we're going too fast

[2:21:24] we can't just say well you

[2:21:25] know, the plan works for me.

[2:21:28] well, you know, over here in

[2:21:29] this part of the city it'll be

[2:21:30] fine.

[2:21:30] y'all might be having some

[2:21:32] issues but over here is going

[2:21:32] to be fine.

[2:21:35] let's see how this is impacting

[2:21:36] our entire community and slow

[2:21:40] down when we need to.

[2:21:43] I have no interest in rushing.

[2:21:44] I'm also concerned to hear that

[2:21:48] the twenty nineteen gl how

[2:21:51] housing plan is being used as a

[2:21:52] reference.

[2:21:53] when I when there was a

[2:21:55] discussion of selling to

[2:21:57] holiway park and I was in a

[2:21:59] public fight with the city

[2:21:59] administration about whether

[2:22:03] the twenty nineteen plan was

[2:22:04] the actual plan or not and what

[2:22:08] was continuing to be told

[2:22:08] publicly was that wasn't the

[2:22:09] plan.

[2:22:12] so now the public doesn't think

[2:22:12] the twenty nineteen plan is the

[2:22:13] plan.

[2:22:15] they think there's an

[2:22:16] opportunity now to create a new

[2:22:22] plan but what they found out

[2:22:23] is the city has handpicked who

[2:22:27] they want at the table to

[2:22:31] create that plan.

[2:22:32] I wish it were as obviously

[2:22:35] offense to everyone else in

[2:22:38] this room as it is to me

[2:22:39] because who else would stand

[2:22:43] for that to allow a hand-picked

[2:22:47] thank you, councilman vice

[2:22:50] mayor pierucci.

[2:22:51] thank you.

[2:22:54] I just want to speak to the

[2:22:57] show how a park situation to

[2:23:01] absolutely agree that there has

[2:23:02] to be robust public process.

[2:23:05] I do not see a steering

[2:23:27] committee as the end all be all

[2:23:27] to decide that committee.

[2:23:28] my hope would be for the record

[2:23:29] that that steering committee

[2:23:30] does gather information, gives

[2:23:31] information out but also helps

[2:23:32] create a robust public process

[2:23:33] to get input from all

[2:23:33] stakeholders across the

[2:23:34] community that loved how we

[2:23:35] park and want to see it

[2:23:36] thriving.

[2:23:36] we have two great anchor

[2:23:37] tenants there with the zoo and

[2:23:40] the muse and long, long desire

[2:23:44] to see how a park be a thriving

[2:23:47] park back in east knoxville.

[2:23:49] so my hope is that it would be

[2:23:52] a true public process I did

[2:23:56] generations refind come back

[2:24:00] present but there has to be a

[2:24:01] timeline in which you try to

[2:24:03] get that work done because

[2:24:04] dragging it out for a very long

[2:24:07] time won't satisfy people

[2:24:08] either.

[2:24:10] so this has nothing to do with

[2:24:11] the vote.

[2:24:12] I'm going to vote for this but

[2:24:14] we talked about how we park and

[2:24:15] that would be my expectation

[2:24:18] is that it involved a robust

[2:24:22] public process as the designs

[2:24:23] that are created.

[2:24:27] and I will also say for those

[2:24:28] the four of us that have been

[2:24:31] on council back on this plan

[2:24:31] started I did appreciate the

[2:24:35] one on one personal hour, hour

[2:24:38] and a half long conversations

[2:24:39] about three or four times

[2:24:42] during this process updating us

[2:24:43] where we were on the plan and

[2:24:46] the feedback we've been

[2:24:46] getting.

[2:24:49] my questions were answered.

[2:24:50] so I don't see you here,

[2:24:54] carlos, but I will see you

[2:24:55] because you're behind tom's

[2:24:56] chair.

[2:24:58] so but it's nice to see you in

[2:25:01] person rather than over a

[2:25:01] screen.

[2:25:04] so thank you very much.

[2:25:08] hey, council member thomas.

[2:25:09] yes.

[2:25:10] I had a question about who

[2:25:13] chose the task force for

[2:25:13] highway park.

[2:25:16] >> uh, mr. Grant and I met

[2:25:16] several times.

[2:25:19] I also talked to debbie housley

[2:25:20] .

[2:25:20] it's an advisory group similar

[2:25:24] to the way we did the south

[2:25:25] waterfront advisory group.

[2:25:28] it's not uh, written in stone

[2:25:29] and it's not it can evolve

[2:25:32] sometimes people have a lot

[2:25:32] of time and then their time

[2:25:35] availability changes.

[2:25:36] as I mentioned, it is open to

[2:25:36] the public.

[2:25:39] we want it to be transparent.

[2:25:42] uh, you know, this is just a

[2:25:43] kicking off a process to do all

[2:25:46] the things that you several

[2:25:47] members have said.

[2:25:48] what you know, what is the

[2:25:51] community's vision and desire

[2:25:51] for this park and what are the

[2:25:55] constraints we have to what are

[2:25:55] the opportunities and what are

[2:25:58] the constraints?

[2:25:59] we have some special assets

[2:26:00] into how we park that are

[2:26:03] unique zoo the muse, um those

[2:26:05] sorts of things.

[2:26:06] but it also is unique in that

[2:26:09] it has, uh, magnolia avenue

[2:26:10] running through it.

[2:26:11] it's in the middle of a more

[2:26:14] urban setting so I'm not

[2:26:14] predetermining the outcome.

[2:26:15] but I do think that starting

[2:26:18] the meeting and having those

[2:26:18] discussions and letting that

[2:26:22] advisory group say do they need

[2:26:23] to be bigger or smaller have

[2:26:26] represented there's a lot

[2:26:26] of community members who are

[2:26:27] willing to participate and

[2:26:30] share information on an as

[2:26:31] needed basis like the cultural

[2:26:31] exchange center.

[2:26:34] it's heritage others who might

[2:26:37] want to share information about

[2:26:38] horticulture and hydrology but

[2:26:41] they don't necessarily need to

[2:26:42] be at all the meetings but they

[2:26:45] could be there when the group

[2:26:45] wants more information.

[2:26:49] yeah, my question thank you for

[2:26:49] all that.

[2:26:50] my question mainly was just the

[2:26:53] makeup of the advisory group,

[2:26:54] how they were chosen and from

[2:26:56] what I hear from others it's

[2:26:57] flexible that members can be

[2:27:01] added possibly or as I think

[2:27:04] there's some I'm hearing some

[2:27:05] concern in the community that

[2:27:08] the task force is not

[2:27:09] representative enough.

[2:27:12] I don't want to be overly

[2:27:12] critical but I am hearing that

[2:27:13] from the community.

[2:27:13] right.

[2:27:17] well, I think it'd be good to

[2:27:18] have this meeting again.

[2:27:20] these are not my picks.

[2:27:21] these are things that I worked

[2:27:23] on with mr. Grant.

[2:27:24] I think that hopefully he would

[2:27:25] agree that most of these

[2:27:28] individual people that he and I

[2:27:29] discussed and council member

[2:27:32] housley also discussed.

[2:27:33] but I'm it's not it's not

[2:27:33] written in stone.

[2:27:36] let's see who comes to the

[2:27:37] first meeting and wants to be

[2:27:40] part of the discussion whether

[2:27:41] they were, you know, listed in

[2:27:44] a media article or not, that's

[2:27:44] fine with me.

[2:27:45] and I also just hope that you

[2:27:47] know, all of council supports

[2:27:48] this effort.

[2:27:50] we want it to be transparent

[2:27:54] and inclusive and also I hope

[2:27:55] that we don't hold the master

[2:27:58] plan hostage to what

[2:27:59] is happening in iraq.

[2:28:00] I think that's uh they're

[2:28:03] they're both interconnected and

[2:28:04] we're very committed to trying

[2:28:07] to support a future analysis

[2:28:10] and vision for how we park.

[2:28:11] but this master plan is for the

[2:28:11] whole city.

[2:28:14] it's how iraq is mentioned.

[2:28:15] it says basically we're going

[2:28:16] to figure it out in

[2:28:18] twenty twenty six and that's

[2:28:19] where we are right now.

[2:28:21] but this this master plan

[2:28:22] process has been the hard work

[2:28:25] of many, many people and that

[2:28:26] happened starting about a year

[2:28:28] ago when charlie parker

[2:28:29] is still an event space.

[2:28:32] so that's that's why it's uh

[2:28:33] you know that history.

[2:28:34] yeah.

[2:28:37] so is there a process suppose

[2:28:40] like a group in the community

[2:28:41] or a particular individual

[2:28:45] could they apply or to the task

[2:28:49] force I guess how would someone

[2:28:50] why do we do that at the first

[2:28:52] meeting I say see it people say

[2:28:53] ok, all right, I don't want it

[2:28:55] to be like american cannons

[2:28:56] exclusive decision.

[2:28:57] I just I think in the south

[2:29:00] waterfront advisory group it

[2:29:01] was it was more fluid.

[2:29:04] we had people who were very

[2:29:05] much, uh, critics and then

[2:29:07] people who were, you know,

[2:29:08] neutral and people who had just

[2:29:11] different ideas and and they

[2:29:11] all came together.

[2:29:12] some came to every meeting,

[2:29:13] some came to some meetings as

[2:29:15] their schedules allowed.

[2:29:16] it was more of an ad hoc type

[2:29:19] of thing.

[2:29:20] it wasn't like an official

[2:29:20] appointment letter from city

[2:29:23] council or the mayor was a

[2:29:23] little more informal and maybe

[2:29:25] this advisory group thinks it

[2:29:26] needs to be more formal.

[2:29:27] I'm happy to listen to their

[2:29:31] suggestions.

[2:29:32] well, thank you for that.

[2:29:33] I just underline I am concerned

[2:29:34] and have heard concern about

[2:29:38] though that the makeup of the

[2:29:38] advisory council for children

[2:29:42] may possibly be a little bit

[2:29:43] too restrictive.

[2:29:44] I don't know I haven't really

[2:29:47] surveyed who's on it.

[2:29:48] I'm just getting those concerns

[2:29:50] and so I would encourage you

[2:29:54] and council member grant to

[2:29:54] keep working together and make

[2:29:57] sure that it's inclusive and

[2:29:59] you know, one of the problems

[2:30:01] with a giant park process was

[2:30:02] people who felt like they had

[2:30:06] been left out of the process

[2:30:07] and I don't want to see that

[2:30:09] happen with the advisory

[2:30:09] committee.

[2:30:11] I don't want them to feel like

[2:30:13] it's kind of a overly select

[2:30:17] group and not expansive enough

[2:30:18] in the community.

[2:30:19] so thank you for your comments.

[2:30:22] I understand council member

[2:30:25] honeycut I think you've had

[2:30:26] your light on a while.

[2:30:27] I've been looking at that on

[2:30:28] this site.

[2:30:29] I'm sorry.

[2:30:30] it's fine and it's late so I'll

[2:30:33] keep it keep my comments brief

[2:30:34] but I think I just wanted to

[2:30:37] bring it back quickly to to the

[2:30:38] master plan which we're voting

[2:30:41] on tonight and is part

[2:30:45] of what's right before us

[2:30:45] today.

[2:30:49] and just say to miss ellie and

[2:30:50] the parks and rec department

[2:30:50] and carlos but I think you guys

[2:30:53] did a fantastic job.

[2:30:54] I mean I've been involved with

[2:30:56] this for over a year now first

[2:30:59] as a citizen and then as an

[2:31:00] elected official and you've

[2:31:01] done a great job both engaging

[2:31:04] citizens because I was I have a

[2:31:05] lot of the meetings last year

[2:31:08] and and keeping us abreast

[2:31:09] along the way.

[2:31:11] so I definitely feel that, you

[2:31:12] know, you have you held a good

[2:31:13] transparent process and if

[2:31:15] people didn't participate it

[2:31:16] wasn't from a lack of you

[2:31:17] trying to get them to

[2:31:19] participate because it was

[2:31:20] certainly you were doing

[2:31:23] everything within your power.

[2:31:24] is the plan perfect?

[2:31:24] absolutely not.

[2:31:27] no plan is but it's a great

[2:31:31] plan and it helps move the city

[2:31:35] forward in an important way and

[2:31:36] it leaves I think in a good

[2:31:36] way.

[2:31:39] it leaves room to have a much

[2:31:40] more robust and in-depth

[2:31:43] discussion about the future

[2:31:43] tillawi park very purposely so

[2:31:47] that this year we can all

[2:31:48] engage in the important process

[2:31:49] we need to have regarding that

[2:31:51] park in particular but as a

[2:31:51] global master plan for our city

[2:31:55] as a something north star for

[2:31:56] us to point and at least move

[2:31:58] the train forward.

[2:31:59] you've done a great job and I

[2:32:00] look forward to supporting it.

[2:32:00] thank you.

[2:32:02] thank you.

[2:32:09] council member housley I so

[2:32:10] thank you.

[2:32:13] um kudos to y'all y'all great

[2:32:14] like my buddy carlos out there

[2:32:14] he's moving to knoxville.

[2:32:16] did you know that him here.

[2:32:17] yeah yeah we're working on it

[2:32:20] right gordo's yes his wife

[2:32:21] loves it er so yeah so I was

[2:32:24] told I would have a debbie

[2:32:28] downer question ok why was the

[2:32:31] parks and rec master plan not

[2:32:35] included in our agenda.

[2:32:36] what do you mean the back

[2:32:37] wasn't the big packet was not

[2:32:39] included in our agenda and so

[2:32:40] the community is a little bit

[2:32:44] nervous it wasn't there and so

[2:32:46] I'm sure your department yeah

[2:32:47] mr swanson it was primarily a

[2:32:51] matter it's a really long

[2:32:51] document.

[2:32:55] it has it was difficult to

[2:32:58] attach by the computer program.

[2:32:59] we've got new complete computer

[2:33:00] programs and our people

[2:33:02] couldn't quite figure out how

[2:33:05] to attach that big a document

[2:33:10] to the to the packets and so we

[2:33:13] gave links to it rather than to

[2:33:14] print out the entire problem

[2:33:14] not to start with.

[2:33:17] there was nothing on there so

[2:33:18] but yeah but there was a link

[2:33:21] to it as I recall no there was

[2:33:22] not to start with no but that's

[2:33:25] ok it got added which is fine I

[2:33:26] just there was some concern

[2:33:29] about why people couldn't see

[2:33:30] it and so I apologize that was

[2:33:54] I guess like yeah we're sorry

[2:33:54] my understanding is we're going

[2:33:56] to link from the start so if

[2:33:57] that didn't happen I was not

[2:33:58] where I was going and I had it

[2:33:59] so ok.

[2:34:00] I do think there's community

[2:34:00] input.

[2:34:01] you know what's happened long

[2:34:01] before it got to the council's

[2:34:02] agenda all along the way

[2:34:03] including the final master

[2:34:03] plan.

[2:34:04] so some people look council

[2:34:04] agendas but I think a lot

[2:34:05] of other people had other

[2:34:06] forums find it so I thought and

[2:34:07] so I just was going just you

[2:34:10] know, any and no, no, no.

[2:34:11] I plan to support sporkin plan

[2:34:12] to support a plan.

[2:34:13] >> I'm good.

[2:34:14] thank you.

[2:34:14] council member grant.

[2:34:16] yeah, I just want to speak to a

[2:34:19] couple of things on one of the

[2:34:20] things that councilman thomas

[2:34:21] mentioned in terms of the

[2:34:28] process while I appreciate the

[2:34:32] commitment being made on prior

[2:34:33] to me meeting with you so let

[2:34:37] me say this we met today I did

[2:34:38] meet with the mayor and it was

[2:34:40] good meeting, very productive.

[2:34:43] I was able to get a lot answers

[2:34:44] , a lot of questions answered

[2:34:47] that I didn't know previously

[2:34:51] to meeting with you.

[2:34:52] I was ok with how the process

[2:34:55] was in a very beginning giving

[2:34:59] the final outcome of the list

[2:35:02] and how it was put in the

[2:35:03] community.

[2:35:07] I got calls and wasn't able to

[2:35:07] answer questions right.

[2:35:08] and as the district six

[2:35:11] represented where this park

[2:35:14] sits is somewhat challenging

[2:35:15] and frustrating when your

[2:35:18] constituents call and you don't

[2:35:19] have the answers for them, you

[2:35:22] know when the communication

[2:35:26] there's a communication barrier

[2:35:27] let me just put it that way.

[2:35:28] but I would say it was a

[2:35:28] productive meeting.

[2:35:30] I got a lot of things answered,

[2:35:33] you know, in terms of the list

[2:35:34] on the list needs to be

[2:35:37] improved.

[2:35:38] I would agree that when we have

[2:35:41] this meeting next week that

[2:35:42] we're able to make additions.

[2:35:43] that's something that as the

[2:35:46] district representative I would

[2:35:49] like to do because there are

[2:35:50] community members out here who

[2:35:52] come from different backgrounds

[2:35:53] who can provide a different

[2:35:57] expertize in view of what we

[2:36:00] might need for this park.

[2:36:01] you had a number of individuals

[2:36:04] who fought to keep this park

[2:36:05] and I and I think, you know,

[2:36:09] optics matter when when you're

[2:36:10] when creating a group in terms

[2:36:12] of how we move forward, I think

[2:36:13] it's important that you allow

[2:36:17] the people who advocated to be

[2:36:18] a part of that process not just

[2:36:19] invited but actually at the

[2:36:20] table.

[2:36:24] and so you know, I just want to

[2:36:27] say, you know, I hope moving

[2:36:28] forward the community will stay

[2:36:31] involved in this process.

[2:36:32] it's going to be a drawn out

[2:36:35] process and we need community

[2:36:36] members to show up.

[2:36:37] we need communities to give

[2:36:39] their input right.

[2:36:40] even when you don't get what

[2:36:41] you want right, you still show

[2:36:43] up and you put forth the effort

[2:36:44] if it's that important to you.

[2:36:47] and so, you know, I just wanted

[2:36:48] to get that on a record, you

[2:36:51] know, I do thank you from for

[2:36:51] making that adjustment and just

[2:36:54] being open minded to realize

[2:36:55] that we do need more

[2:36:58] individuals on this.

[2:37:00] and so and I want to invite

[2:37:00] council members you know I know

[2:37:02] your schedules are stretched.

[2:37:03] I would like to see you guys

[2:37:07] participate as much as you can.

[2:37:08] I would like to see this group

[2:37:10] not only centered on district

[2:37:11] six but let's go out to the

[2:37:11] different districts.

[2:37:13] let's host meetings in

[2:37:14] different areas of the city to

[2:37:15] be able to get that feedback

[2:37:18] from, you know, different

[2:37:18] community members.

[2:37:19] we want everybody coming and

[2:37:22] visiting how we park not just

[2:37:23] those district residents or

[2:37:25] people in adjacent

[2:37:25] neighborhoods.

[2:37:27] we want to it's a city thing

[2:37:29] and we need as many people as

[2:37:30] we need as we should have at

[2:37:33] this table not just within the

[2:37:34] group.

[2:37:35] so thank you council member

[2:37:38] pirker.

[2:37:43] thank you, mayor, for your

[2:37:43] thoughts.

[2:37:51] one is uh I will be at every

[2:37:51] meeting.

[2:37:51] yeah.

[2:37:52] I don't have to invite me for

[2:37:54] me to show up.

[2:37:56] I will show up and I will be

[2:37:59] there um and I do find it

[2:38:03] unfortunate that uh the mayor

[2:38:06] keeps saying ay ay ay discuss

[2:38:07] this with council member grant

[2:38:11] councilman helmsley when I have

[2:38:11] fought to save holiway park for

[2:38:14] at least the last eight months.

[2:38:17] so not only is that offensive

[2:38:21] to me when you say that whether

[2:38:22] you intend to or not but it

[2:38:25] offends my constituents who um

[2:38:29] who see the work that I put in

[2:38:30] and don't appreciate the

[2:38:30] continued disrespect.

[2:38:36] I don't either um we the the

[2:38:40] the this master plan went

[2:38:40] through a public input process

[2:38:44] that finalized at the end

[2:38:48] of february uh, once that

[2:38:48] process finalized, I wondered

[2:38:51] well how will that input be

[2:38:52] incorporated into the final

[2:38:54] plan?

[2:38:59] and so, um, it was noted that

[2:39:02] the master plan was not in our

[2:39:03] packet but individuals have

[2:39:07] recently been exposed to the

[2:39:07] plan through the public input

[2:39:08] process.

[2:39:11] but I imagine many of them like

[2:39:14] I did would assume we would

[2:39:18] actually incorporate some that

[2:39:19] public input into that master

[2:39:22] plan would actually change

[2:39:23] following up public input

[2:39:26] process.

[2:39:27] did we make any changes to the

[2:39:30] plan following the public input

[2:39:31] process?

[2:39:33] >> we we thank you councilwoman

[2:39:34] parker.

[2:39:35] we did make some corrections

[2:39:35] into it.

[2:39:37] um, if you look at it this

[2:39:38] is really relatively minor.

[2:39:42] carlos could probably carlos

[2:39:42] perez could probably speak more

[2:39:43] to it and give you a true

[2:39:46] oversight what happened as he

[2:39:46] incorporated that information?

[2:39:48] a lot of the things that we

[2:39:50] came back with were around

[2:39:51] typos that need to happen

[2:39:53] because it was more of things

[2:39:54] that were already in the plan

[2:39:58] and not additions to the plan.

[2:39:59] and so I would I would probably

[2:40:01] lean to carlos, probably

[2:40:02] explain just a little bit more

[2:40:03] about what that final plan

[2:40:05] is and why it was written the

[2:40:06] way it is.

[2:40:06] >> mm hmm.

[2:40:09] I would love to hear from mr.

[2:40:13] perez about the changes made.

[2:40:13] good evening.

[2:40:14] mayor and council carlos perez

[2:40:17] 878 peachtree street, atlanta.

[2:40:18] thank you for the opportunity

[2:40:20] to to present to you this

[2:40:21] evening and thank you for that

[2:40:22] question.

[2:40:25] um, as director you mentioned

[2:40:27] we did receive comments uh for

[2:40:28] the master plan and as she

[2:40:29] mentioned they were relatively

[2:40:32] minor uh, related to typos.

[2:40:35] there were some park names that

[2:40:36] um I recommend were noted as

[2:40:40] needing to be updated.

[2:40:44] there was a lot of support for

[2:40:44] the suggestions that were

[2:40:48] included in the master plan and

[2:40:51] those were really the the

[2:40:52] changes that we we received.

[2:40:55] there was no major fundamental

[2:40:56] revisions or comments, uh, that

[2:40:59] we had received.

[2:41:03] thank you.

[2:41:18] um, there have been requests

[2:41:18] tonight that conversations

[2:41:22] continue and that this remains

[2:41:26] a somewhat flexible document.

[2:41:29] >> I would echo those request

[2:41:33] but I would also challenge us

[2:41:34] to question some of the

[2:41:37] assumptions that went into this

[2:41:41] uh, plan and understand that

[2:41:45] the community still has

[2:41:49] concerns and still, uh, at

[2:41:50] least making complaints to me.

[2:41:53] hopefully I'm not the only one

[2:41:54] that they're making complaints

[2:41:57] to but about, uh, privately

[2:42:01] managed amenities versus

[2:42:01] publicly managed amenities.

[2:42:05] I'm happy to see a proposal

[2:42:06] coming about shifting to how we

[2:42:09] park back to parks and rec.

[2:42:12] but I'm worried about other

[2:42:13] proposals to outsource some

[2:42:14] of these services that we might

[2:42:17] see in my meeting with the

[2:42:18] knoxville zoo.

[2:42:20] uh, there was discussion of the

[2:42:21] zoo potentially building a

[2:42:24] community center for that piece

[2:42:24] of property.

[2:42:28] I'm interested in seeing public

[2:42:32] spaces developed, um, if there

[2:42:33] is some sort of management

[2:42:35] shared then we have to

[2:42:36] seriously improve our

[2:42:40] transparency and our sharing

[2:42:42] of policy so people know how to

[2:42:47] access these services equitably

[2:42:47] .

[2:42:48] thank you.

[2:42:51] council member parker.

[2:42:52] just as a reminder I have an

[2:42:55] open door for all council

[2:42:58] members I meet with most of you

[2:42:59] routinely and happy to have

[2:43:00] standing meetings or ad hoc

[2:43:02] meetings.

[2:43:03] council member parker I enjoyed

[2:43:03] our most recent meeting where

[2:43:06] your focus was on the

[2:43:07] resolutions that you had

[2:43:10] presented to council.

[2:43:11] you know, often when I meet

[2:43:14] with council member grant

[2:43:15] charkaoui park is top of his

[2:43:16] list of things he wants to talk

[2:43:18] about happy to talk about that

[2:43:19] with you or any other council

[2:43:19] members.

[2:43:22] please contact my office and

[2:43:26] set up a meeting any further

[2:43:27] discussion on the master plan

[2:43:28] seeing none all those in favor

[2:43:30] please say hi and he opposed

[2:43:33] the motion carries unanimously

[2:43:37] ok motion carries eight one

[2:43:41] thank you parks and rec team

[2:43:41] and everyone who helped

[2:43:42] contribute to this plan we

[2:43:44] really appreciate them.

[2:43:48] >> next item please 12 in his

[2:43:49] resolution authorizing the

[2:43:52] mayor to execute an agreement

[2:43:53] with the knoxville civil war

[2:44:13] roundtable for the installation

[2:44:14] of a cannon and monument at the

[2:44:16] fort dickerson gateway park for

[2:44:19] motion made and seconded I I'm

[2:44:20] not sure if he's still here but

[2:44:21] there was someone here from the

[2:44:21] civil war roundtable, tom

[2:44:21] wright.

[2:44:22] if anyone has any questions

[2:44:23] seeing none of those in favor,

[2:44:24] please say any opposed motion

[2:44:26] motion carries eight one twelve

[2:44:27] was the resolution authorizing

[2:44:27] the mayor to execute an

[2:44:30] agreement with f three services

[2:44:31] llc for the maintenance

[2:44:34] of seven scattered landscape

[2:44:35] sites for an annual amounts not

[2:44:38] to exceed seventy two thousand

[2:44:39] five hundred fifty dollars move

[2:44:42] to improve motion made to

[2:44:43] approve and seconded council

[2:44:43] member grant.

[2:44:46] >> yeah I just want to

[2:44:46] highlight this particular

[2:44:50] resolution say thank you to our

[2:44:51] public service department and

[2:44:53] our procurement.

[2:44:54] this is a small minority

[2:44:58] business and so one of the

[2:44:59] things second so you know that

[2:45:02] how we part issue that the

[2:45:02] mayor had mentioned for me

[2:45:04] is just making sure are giving

[2:45:05] small disadvantaged businesses

[2:45:09] these type of opportunity.

[2:45:10] and so just want to say thank

[2:45:11] you to our public service

[2:45:13] department mayor and those who

[2:45:14] participated in this process

[2:45:17] and mr frazier came lawn care

[2:45:18] services as well.

[2:45:21] so thank any other questions or

[2:45:26] comments on all those in favor?

[2:45:27] please say hi and he opposed

[2:45:36] motion twelve the resolution

[2:45:37] authorizing the mayor to

[2:45:39] execute an agreement with

[2:45:41] carmichaels lawn llc to provide

[2:45:44] ground maintenance at the

[2:45:44] oddfellows cemetery and

[2:45:48] potter's field for an annual

[2:45:49] amounts not to exceed

[2:45:49] twenty six thousand nine

[2:45:52] hundred forty five dollars to

[2:45:53] approve most major

[2:45:53] improvements.

[2:45:55] I cannot remember grant.

[2:45:56] yes again I just want to say

[2:45:59] thank you to public service but

[2:46:03] also want to highlight another

[2:46:07] cemetery that we have in our

[2:46:08] community the crestview west

[2:46:11] district which is in district

[2:46:12] three myself and councilman

[2:46:16] doug we got to participate with

[2:46:19] a cleanup.

[2:46:20] we keep natural beautiful

[2:46:22] natural heritage the heart and

[2:46:23] family I mean it was over a

[2:46:26] hundred volunteers came out.

[2:46:27] I mean the city was able to

[2:46:31] provide, you know, help with

[2:46:33] trash pickup and so while this

[2:46:34] is oddfellows while this is in

[2:46:38] district six, it's a very

[2:46:38] historic cemetery.

[2:46:41] but I just wanted to get on a

[2:46:43] record for us to, you know, try

[2:46:45] to pay attention whether the

[2:46:46] state coming in or just

[2:46:46] figuring out how we can

[2:46:49] advocate for the crestview

[2:46:50] cemetery district is the it's

[2:46:53] the largest african-american

[2:46:54] cemetery that we have and the

[2:46:57] oldest cemetery that we have

[2:46:58] here in the city of knoxville

[2:47:00] actually countywide.

[2:47:02] and so, you know, I has been a

[2:47:05] process within itself.

[2:47:06] I'm hoping for help from our

[2:47:10] constituents, you know, to try

[2:47:10] to help councilman doug lloyd

[2:47:12] to try to shed some light on

[2:47:13] that particular cemetery.

[2:47:16] so thank you.

[2:47:17] any other questions or comments

[2:47:18] saying and all those in favor

[2:47:20] please say I oppose motion

[2:47:24] carries 12.

[2:47:25] q is the resolution authorizing

[2:47:27] the mayor to execute any all

[2:47:28] documents necessary to apply

[2:47:29] for and accept a project safe

[2:47:32] neighborhoods grant from the

[2:47:33] tennessee office of criminal

[2:47:34] justice programs and the amount

[2:47:36] of forty seven thousand six

[2:47:37] hundred eight dollars with no

[2:47:38] required matching funds to be

[2:47:40] used to purchase equipment and

[2:47:40] supplies used in programs

[2:47:43] designed to prevent, respond to

[2:47:45] and reduce violence and gun

[2:47:50] crimes.

[2:47:54] their motion moved to approve

[2:47:55] motion made to approve and

[2:47:57] seconded council member grant.

[2:47:59] >> yeah I would just like to ex

[2:48:01] chief no well you can take a

[2:48:02] moment and just kind of go into

[2:48:05] brief detail in terms of what

[2:48:09] this grant is on the city.

[2:48:10] we aren't matching these

[2:48:10] dollars right.

[2:48:12] this is a grant tennessee

[2:48:13] office of criminal justice

[2:48:17] program so it's unmatched funds

[2:48:17] .

[2:48:18] but could you briefly go into

[2:48:19] detail in terms of what we will

[2:48:21] utilize these funds for sure.

[2:48:23] >> yeah, this is a project safe

[2:48:24] neighborhood grant which is a

[2:48:25] grant that is traditionally

[2:48:28] used to combat violence,

[2:48:29] particularly gun violence.

[2:48:32] no local match we're going to

[2:48:33] request to use this on for dna

[2:48:36] testing specifically for all

[2:48:37] firearms like the swab a

[2:48:40] firearm and I'll get that dna

[2:48:41] testing done to help us either

[2:48:44] eliminate potential suspects or

[2:48:47] confirm suspects involved

[2:48:47] violent crimes.

[2:48:50] >> thank you.

[2:48:55] council member pirker um, thank

[2:48:58] you.

[2:49:03] um, so for this grant you will

[2:49:06] use it for success for testing

[2:49:06] services.

[2:49:10] no equipment will be purchased

[2:49:10] .

[2:49:11] no, our intention is to use

[2:49:14] this for dna testing for for

[2:49:15] firearms to get those those

[2:49:21] test process processed.

[2:49:25] uh, I'm sure I'm curious.

[2:49:26] it's described as equipment and

[2:49:32] supplies.

[2:49:36] I'm not sure what we're going

[2:49:37] to apply for is to do dna

[2:49:40] testing through rapid dna

[2:49:43] is what we're going to do.

[2:49:44] um, is there a reason that

[2:49:47] those descript shems when you

[2:49:51] are applying for dna testing

[2:49:52] just don't just say dna testing

[2:49:53] rather than equipment and

[2:49:55] supplies?

[2:49:56] >> I'm not exactly sure how

[2:50:00] that language was formulated.

[2:50:01] >> I'm not trying to be

[2:50:01] evasive.

[2:50:02] I just don't know that that

[2:50:04] language from paper it comes

[2:50:04] from the lab.

[2:50:06] >> it may have come from one

[2:50:08] of our staff but I'm not saying

[2:50:08] it doesn't come from outside

[2:50:09] this.

[2:50:11] >> I just don't know.

[2:50:12] >> yeah, it just would be great

[2:50:13] for transparency purposes for

[2:50:14] the public.

[2:50:15] >> it's probably just mirroring

[2:50:18] the the probably the subject on

[2:50:19] in the grant.

[2:50:20] >> I'm sure that's what it is.

[2:50:20] yeah.

[2:50:23] um any effort we can make to be

[2:50:26] more transpac in that

[2:50:27] description.

[2:50:27] sure.

[2:50:30] because that's all these

[2:50:31] conversations are about.

[2:50:32] that's the only reason we pull

[2:50:34] it off with the consent agenda

[2:50:35] is to know what equipment and

[2:50:35] services are.

[2:50:38] >> some of the challenges that

[2:50:39] we're having with the grants

[2:50:40] right now is that you know,

[2:50:43] normally what happens with

[2:50:43] these grants is they they drop

[2:50:46] in a set period every year.

[2:50:47] they have some time to drop it

[2:50:48] really fast and right now the

[2:50:51] turnaround times were really

[2:50:51] quick.

[2:50:54] so the deadline descried just

[2:50:55] right not long ago.

[2:50:56] the deadline for us to apply

[2:50:56] is on friday.

[2:50:58] so our great team is really

[2:50:59] scrambling.

[2:51:00] so the grant world over the

[2:51:02] last year, two years or so has

[2:51:06] shifted shifted dramatically.

[2:51:07] so that's why like with the

[2:51:08] packard that was not a lot

[2:51:11] of documents with it because

[2:51:12] it's like a great team is not

[2:51:13] put it together yet.

[2:51:14] we'll probably be following

[2:51:15] this grant like probably like

[2:51:17] within hours before the

[2:51:18] deadline and it'll get a little

[2:51:19] bit dropped.

[2:51:19] >> ok, thank you.

[2:51:21] that's helpful.

[2:51:26] all those in favor please say

[2:51:27] oh council members grant was

[2:51:29] ready ok all those in favor

[2:51:31] please say I and he opposed

[2:51:36] motion carries 13 s is an

[2:51:40] ordinance to amend the knox

[2:51:40] city could be zoning

[2:51:43] code article 15 section fifteen

[2:51:44] point to point b published

[2:51:45] notice to align noticing

[2:51:47] requirements with recent state

[2:51:48] law changes city of knoxville

[2:51:51] applicant all districts most

[2:51:52] major proven fact that any

[2:51:56] questions or discussion seeing

[2:51:57] none all those in favor please

[2:51:59] say I indya oppose motion

[2:52:04] carries 13 t is an ordinance to

[2:52:05] close an unnamed alley near

[2:52:07] nineteen oh two forrest avenue

[2:52:08] lying within city block one

[2:52:11] zero zero eight five running

[2:52:12] between nineteenth street and

[2:52:12] twentieth street and

[2:52:13] authorizing the mayor to

[2:52:16] execute quitclaim deeds to

[2:52:16] address and property owners

[2:52:20] first district move to approve

[2:52:21] motion made to approve and

[2:52:23] seconded any questions are can

[2:52:24] I mean council member adams?

[2:52:25] yeah I would like to make a few

[2:52:26] comments.

[2:52:27] I know you're thrilled about

[2:52:28] that everybody.

[2:52:31] um but this is an important

[2:52:31] issue.

[2:52:35] it's a big um proposal that

[2:52:35] will be coming through even

[2:52:38] though it seems like a small

[2:52:39] thing because it's an alley.

[2:52:40] I just want to put on the

[2:52:42] record that I am not for alley

[2:52:42] closures.

[2:52:46] they are very important for

[2:52:47] pedestrian right of ways and

[2:52:49] the fabric of the city,

[2:52:50] particularly the traditional

[2:52:54] grid and so I don't take these

[2:52:54] lightly.

[2:52:55] I've had many conversations

[2:52:58] with mr. Mullins with planning

[2:53:01] and with others in the city

[2:53:01] trying to see is there any way

[2:53:04] around that we don't have to

[2:53:04] close this.

[2:53:06] um, currently if you went to

[2:53:09] the site you would not say oh

[2:53:09] that's an alley.

[2:53:10] you would say oh that's a

[2:53:12] surface parking lot.

[2:53:15] so it's not currently serving

[2:53:16] in the capacity that that I

[2:53:19] feel strongly about.

[2:53:20] the other thing is that while

[2:53:23] this is just about an alley

[2:53:24] closure, looking at the entire

[2:53:28] case, the the zoning by right

[2:53:30] allows for pretty pretty

[2:53:34] intense buildings there and

[2:53:35] that is like I said by right.

[2:53:39] um so I recognize the great

[2:53:40] need for housing uh

[2:53:43] particularly for students just

[2:53:47] in the past um, two weeks I've

[2:53:48] received messages from students

[2:53:51] saying I'm having to drive

[2:53:52] twenty or thirty minutes to get

[2:53:54] to campus because I can't

[2:53:54] afford to live there.

[2:53:55] so I understand the housing

[2:53:57] needs and that this is an

[2:53:58] opportunity to help to help

[2:53:59] with this.

[2:54:02] but again I just wanted to say

[2:54:05] that um I do have concerns

[2:54:06] about closing alleys.

[2:54:09] I wouldn't do this any place

[2:54:09] but understanding that this

[2:54:12] is a block and we did talk

[2:54:13] about other options um but

[2:54:34] really didn't work out so well

[2:54:34] here.

[2:54:35] >> that's why I'm supporting

[2:54:36] this council member thomas.

[2:54:36] yeah.

[2:54:37] I just want to add I'm glad

[2:54:38] that you had that discussion

[2:54:39] about that because on the

[2:54:39] previous council we did have a

[2:54:40] discussion about how we were

[2:54:41] possibly rubber stamping to

[2:54:41] some degree the alley closures

[2:54:42] and then after some discussion,

[2:54:43] you know, there's some

[2:54:43] opportunity there on some

[2:54:44] of them so we should scrutinize

[2:54:44] them.

[2:54:45] I had a similar situation where

[2:54:47] in lonsdale it looked like an

[2:54:48] alley closure would actually

[2:54:49] impede the possibility of a

[2:54:52] future green way.

[2:54:53] and we went out and miss ellie

[2:54:55] and the developer and we spent

[2:54:56] a particular quite a bit

[2:54:59] of time on it and we found out

[2:55:02] that actually the alley closer

[2:55:03] was justified because the

[2:55:06] potential for a greenway wasn't

[2:55:07] really there as it was on first

[2:55:08] blush.

[2:55:11] so I had a particular situation

[2:55:12] where I scrutinized it and it

[2:55:15] found out yeah, ok, this

[2:55:16] is we're not giving up city

[2:55:19] property or we're not giving up

[2:55:20] a significant right to the

[2:55:22] public but I applaud you for

[2:55:23] discussing that because any

[2:55:26] time we close these alleys or

[2:55:27] things like that, we're

[2:55:29] actually giving up public

[2:55:30] property so they've got

[2:55:34] criteria most of the time

[2:55:34] they're right.

[2:55:35] but that doesn't mean as far as

[2:55:38] closing these alleys but that

[2:55:38] doesn't mean that we shouldn't,

[2:55:40] you know, keep an eye on it

[2:55:42] because it is public property

[2:55:43] and we lose it if we don't be

[2:55:46] mindful.

[2:55:46] >> thank you.

[2:55:47] thanks.

[2:55:47] I have one other question.

[2:55:50] this is for mr. Mullins comment

[2:55:50] .

[2:55:50] really?

[2:55:52] yeah, I signed up to speak but

[2:55:53] please it's late.

[2:55:57] yeah, I was one of the things

[2:56:01] that we exchanged when we were

[2:56:02] talking about this was

[2:56:02] improvements to the sidewalks

[2:56:05] that would be made to help with

[2:56:06] some of the pedestrian access

[2:56:08] that we'd be losing.

[2:56:09] but another item was that there

[2:56:12] is proposed and interior green

[2:56:13] space for this potential

[2:56:14] development.

[2:56:17] yeah, and we had some emails

[2:56:18] about that today and I

[2:56:19] appreciate you know, we asked

[2:56:20] to postpone for two weeks.

[2:56:21] give us more time of course

[2:56:22] that two weeks also includes

[2:56:23] spring break and I had a three

[2:56:24] trial so we really haven't been

[2:56:25] able to engage on it quite as

[2:56:28] much as I'd hoped we had.

[2:56:29] and so I would you know, this

[2:56:30] is first reading I think there

[2:56:32] has to be a second and I think

[2:56:33] between now and then I think

[2:56:34] we'd want to have some more

[2:56:36] conversations to address that

[2:56:37] but that you'll see on the

[2:56:40] plans there's that western side

[2:56:41] where there's some parking and

[2:56:43] there's some greenery and

[2:56:44] that's the area that's going to

[2:56:44] be kind of open more to the

[2:56:47] public at central to the fact

[2:56:48] that it's kind of central to

[2:56:49] the building itself but it's

[2:56:51] kind of off center because it's

[2:56:51] on the western side.

[2:56:52] it's not the interior courtyard

[2:56:55] area.

[2:56:56] that's where the pool is that's

[2:56:56] not going to be open to the

[2:56:57] public.

[2:56:59] so that's what we proposed.

[2:57:00] but I've got mr. Mr. Harris

[2:57:00] here.

[2:57:03] he's the developer nottoway and

[2:57:04] mr. Cohen talked with you know,

[2:57:07] we're not set in concrete and

[2:57:08] all this we still have

[2:57:10] opportunities to tweak some

[2:57:11] things if there's things that

[2:57:11] you specifically have in mind,

[2:57:14] we're open continuing to have

[2:57:14] that conversation.

[2:57:16] yeah, I think just to say this

[2:57:18] for the period between now and

[2:57:19] next reading is that that

[2:57:22] public access is really

[2:57:23] important and making it be a

[2:57:26] part of the community, not a

[2:57:27] monolith that is saying you're

[2:57:27] not welcome here.

[2:57:34] so that's that's all ok, thing

[2:57:35] no further limits on all those

[2:57:37] in favor please say I opposed

[2:57:37] the motion carries.

[2:57:41] thank you all very much.

[2:57:42] uh, now we'll move on to public

[2:57:42] forum.

[2:57:45] we have six people lined up to

[2:57:46] speak at public forum.

[2:57:47] they'll each have up to three

[2:57:49] minutes to address council.

[2:58:07] first is vivian qype misshape

[2:58:08] vivian qype thirty six fifteen

[2:58:11] mlk knoxville three seven nine

[2:58:15] one for some would say that

[2:58:18] winter is back but we know

[2:58:22] winter never left.

[2:58:26] what has been left are the

[2:58:29] housed left out of planning

[2:58:31] left out of planning for safety

[2:58:34] and lodging against the

[2:58:38] elements tonight it will be a

[2:58:41] cold cold twenty six degrees

[2:58:42] relaunch is gone and there's no

[2:58:45] room than had we passed

[2:58:49] parker's second resolution we

[2:58:53] would at least be on our way to

[2:58:54] discussing a fix instead we are

[2:58:57] two years away from a solution.

[2:58:58] how many will die in the next

[2:59:01] two years?

[2:59:05] how many we discuss and debate

[2:59:05] into early graves.

[2:59:08] bring back the parker

[2:59:09] resolution, open temporary

[2:59:13] emergency shelters.

[2:59:16] we say we are a sanctuary city

[2:59:16] .

[2:59:20] let's act like it.

[2:59:21] next person signed up to speak

[2:59:24] is sumika elliot sumika.

[2:59:28] elliot, if you could come to

[2:59:29] him said your name and address

[2:59:29] for the record you'll have up

[2:59:30] to three minutes to address

[2:59:32] council.

[2:59:33] >> hello my name is famiglia

[2:59:36] elliot two nine zero four

[2:59:36] tazewell pike three seven eight

[2:59:39] one eight good evening council.

[2:59:40] my name is tamika elliot

[2:59:43] ahmadullah community health

[2:59:44] worker founder of a lotus

[2:59:44] program experience.

[2:59:47] I'm here alongside of my

[2:59:48] community partner in our

[2:59:51] absence alexis alsup of empower

[2:59:52] dulin midwifery services.

[2:59:54] together we have coulier in

[2:59:55] knoxville black maternal health

[2:59:55] conference and initialing for

[2:59:58] the past three years of free

[2:59:59] community centered events focus

[3:00:02] on advancing awareness

[3:00:02] education in action around

[3:00:03] maternal health care in east

[3:00:06] tennessee with the official

[3:00:07] city proclamation locally

[3:00:10] recognizing the week in 2020 to

[3:00:11] what started as a one day

[3:00:14] conference has now grown into

[3:00:15] something much bigger in

[3:00:17] twenty twenty six this year we

[3:00:18] are launching knoxville's the

[3:00:18] first official black maternal

[3:00:21] health week taking place april

[3:00:22] 11th through the 17th a full

[3:00:25] free week of programing that

[3:00:26] uplifts local birth workers,

[3:00:26] health care professionals,

[3:00:29] researchers, families.

[3:00:30] this expansion reflects both

[3:00:33] the urgency of the issue and

[3:00:34] the strength of community

[3:00:34] demand over the past three

[3:00:37] years we've created a space

[3:00:38] where honest conversations can

[3:00:41] happen in public health where

[3:00:42] family share lived experiences,

[3:00:42] providers deepen their

[3:00:45] understanding of culturally

[3:00:46] compensate comprehensive care

[3:00:49] and doulas birth workers and

[3:00:50] health professionals are

[3:00:50] recognized as essential leaders

[3:00:53] in improving health outcomes

[3:00:54] and this work is fairly

[3:00:54] critical.

[3:00:57] tennessee currently takes 40

[3:00:58] days in the national in the

[3:00:59] nation excuse me for maternal

[3:01:01] mortality with rate

[3:01:02] significantly higher than the

[3:01:05] national average as tennessee

[3:01:06] has a seat on our maternal

[3:01:09] health report card, we also

[3:01:10] continue to see elevated rates

[3:01:10] of preterm birth and infant

[3:01:13] mortality outcomes that

[3:01:14] disproportionately impact black

[3:01:17] families and rural communities

[3:01:17] across our great state.

[3:01:18] these are not just statistics.

[3:01:21] these are families in our

[3:01:22] communities that we serve what

[3:01:24] we are building through black

[3:01:25] maternal health week is a

[3:01:25] community driven response.

[3:01:28] we educate by making maternal

[3:01:29] health information accessible

[3:01:32] and culturally relevant.

[3:01:33] we advocate by lifting the

[3:01:34] voices of families and birth

[3:01:36] workers and we connect

[3:01:37] resources to ensure better

[3:01:37] outcomes for mothers, babies

[3:01:40] and families.

[3:01:41] some of this work has been

[3:01:42] supported in part by myself

[3:01:45] investment, mutual aid and

[3:01:45] knoxville's two or two funds

[3:01:48] which we are deeply grateful

[3:01:49] for that investment.

[3:01:49] thank you councilwoman parker.

[3:01:51] councilman mckenzie, previous

[3:01:52] councilwoman same councilman

[3:01:55] thomas and councilman roberto.

[3:01:57] however, as we expand into a

[3:02:00] full week of programing we are

[3:02:01] seeking additional support to

[3:02:04] ensure this initiative remains

[3:02:05] free, accessible and impactful

[3:02:08] for our community because we

[3:02:09] invest in maternal health care

[3:02:09] that is community base.

[3:02:11] we also invest in the health

[3:02:12] care of our community.

[3:02:13] thank you for your time,

[3:02:15] leadership and consideration.

[3:02:16] I do have a couple of fliers if

[3:02:20] somebody could help me pass

[3:02:20] these out and around I have

[3:02:21] emailed all of you a copy

[3:02:27] of them as well and you all are

[3:02:31] invited so please come and show

[3:02:31] up.

[3:02:32] all of your constituents will

[3:02:32] be there.

[3:02:33] thanks.

[3:02:37] thank you.

[3:02:38] thank you.

[3:02:38] council member debartolo one

[3:02:41] for sharing those documents.

[3:02:45] >> next is alexis alsup.

[3:02:46] she's with you ok and she

[3:02:49] doesn't want to speak or she's

[3:02:50] not here.

[3:03:00] ok, cantillano thanks.

[3:03:04] yeah again campanello three one

[3:03:07] one w glenwood avenue I'm not

[3:03:08] going to read this whole thing

[3:03:11] here because previous

[3:03:12] conversation about your how

[3:03:16] park I just remind you of the

[3:03:16] sierra club participated in the

[3:03:19] movement to save show how apart

[3:03:23] from being sold and now there's

[3:03:24] a new process with a community

[3:03:28] advisory being formed but the

[3:03:30] group selection on this process

[3:03:31] and the mayor handpicked the

[3:03:34] members and bypassed community

[3:03:35] of voices.

[3:03:36] now I know that's kind of been

[3:03:38] the usual practice in other

[3:03:39] areas but this given the

[3:03:43] history is a really bad idea

[3:03:43] now the process is incomplete.

[3:03:47] we need to add to the list

[3:03:48] where are the advocates for

[3:03:51] rally for kilauea, the city

[3:03:51] council movement, sierra club

[3:03:54] neighborhood groups like town

[3:03:55] hall e, other neighborhood

[3:03:58] groups around holiway park.

[3:03:59] if we want to collaborate and

[3:04:00] create peace between former

[3:04:03] contenders, why wait the

[3:04:03] advisory group so heavily

[3:04:05] toward one side?

[3:04:06] councilman grant ask for

[3:04:09] community members willing to

[3:04:09] participate.

[3:04:10] I'd put myself forward.

[3:04:11] I wanted to make sure the

[3:04:13] environmental principles the

[3:04:14] community had originally

[3:04:17] advanced had a proper place

[3:04:17] development process.

[3:04:19] after all, this administration

[3:04:22] ran an environmental program I

[3:04:22] didn't think the mayor needed

[3:04:26] necessarily to pick me but I

[3:04:27] was shocked that practically

[3:04:27] none of the people who had

[3:04:30] spoken had been selected

[3:04:30] virtually to a person.

[3:04:33] those community members have

[3:04:34] insisted that the park doesn't

[3:04:54] belong to any one neighborhood

[3:04:55] demographic or class.

[3:04:56] it's for all of us and it's to

[3:04:57] be shared with the world but to

[3:04:58] develop it right we need to

[3:04:59] bring together the voices who

[3:04:59] have spoken out to protect the

[3:05:00] park without excluding those

[3:05:01] who work towards selling it.

[3:05:02] so far we haven't done so and

[3:05:02] it needs to be fixed.

[3:05:03] we need more than the voices

[3:05:04] of established insiders.

[3:05:04] we need strong voices

[3:05:04] supporting environmental

[3:05:05] protection.

[3:05:06] we need voices who are aware

[3:05:06] of the park's history.

[3:05:07] we need people who understand

[3:05:08] the black communities fear

[3:05:08] of marginalization and

[3:05:09] displaced.

[3:05:09] we need advocates for

[3:05:10] development who insist that it

[3:05:12] be sustainable and economically

[3:05:13] just new city council members

[3:05:16] have already developed a

[3:05:17] reputation for independence

[3:05:17] of thought.

[3:05:21] please press the mayor and city

[3:05:21] council to create an advisory

[3:05:24] group and I notice you already

[3:05:25] done this that contains the

[3:05:27] contending elements from the

[3:05:28] debate and instructs them to

[3:05:31] develop trust and collaboration

[3:05:32] with each other so we get a

[3:05:33] plan the whole city can be

[3:05:36] proud of.

[3:05:36] >> thanks so much.

[3:05:40] next person is the best can

[3:05:41] state your name and address for

[3:05:44] the record and you'll have up

[3:05:44] to three minutes.

[3:05:47] >> yes, my name is eddie debusk

[3:05:48] .

[3:05:49] I live at fifty eight twelve

[3:05:49] grove drive here in knoxville,

[3:05:50] tennessee.

[3:05:52] the essence of this message

[3:05:53] needs the following background

[3:05:55] information before our

[3:05:56] attendance to the knox county

[3:05:59] commission meeting on thursday

[3:06:00] february the 25th 2026 my

[3:06:01] brother and I witnessed a

[3:06:04] decorative hardhat and small

[3:06:04] backpack fall from a motorcycle

[3:06:07] at the intersection

[3:06:08] of washington park and north

[3:06:11] molle road as the cyclist

[3:06:12] proceeded west to the entrance

[3:06:13] ramp of about 640 westbound.

[3:06:16] for the record, the cyclist had

[3:06:16] the green light at the

[3:06:19] westbound intersection and was

[3:06:20] not speeding and we were

[3:06:22] stopped at the southbound red

[3:06:23] at washington park.

[3:06:24] additionally, the cyclist

[3:06:27] proceeded on his or her journey

[3:06:28] and did not stop in a safe

[3:06:30] manner.

[3:06:31] we retrieved the following

[3:06:32] items from the street and found

[3:06:34] our way to knoxville city

[3:06:38] council city county building to

[3:06:39] attend the scheduled knox

[3:06:39] county commission meeting at

[3:06:42] which time we met two state

[3:06:43] police officers that were

[3:06:45] stationed on the porch of a

[3:06:46] knox county old courthouse as

[3:06:47] we approached the

[3:06:50] aforementioned officers we told

[3:06:51] them of our retrieval of the

[3:06:54] aforementioned items in

[3:06:54] question and asked for guidance

[3:06:55] as to how to surrender.

[3:06:57] they found that I understood

[3:06:58] the proper authorities at which

[3:06:59] time they told us to take the

[3:07:02] the items to the public safety

[3:07:05] complex at huron street as we

[3:07:08] approach the aforementioned as

[3:07:09] we attended the aforementioned

[3:07:12] county commission meeting we

[3:07:13] went to the public after the

[3:07:14] meeting rather we went to the

[3:07:17] public safety complex to

[3:07:18] surrender the stated items in

[3:07:21] question and learned that the

[3:07:21] items needed to be surrendered

[3:07:22] during the regular business

[3:07:25] hours as our schedules did not

[3:07:26] coincide with the regular

[3:07:28] business hours the public

[3:07:28] safety complex on friday

[3:07:32] february the twenty six 2026

[3:07:33] the items in question were not

[3:07:36] returned on february 26, 2012

[3:07:37] six while running errands on

[3:07:40] saturday february the

[3:07:41] twenty seven 2026 I noticed two

[3:07:45] city police cars parked at the

[3:07:46] parking lot at the intersection

[3:07:47] of metal springs mineral

[3:07:48] springs road and walker

[3:07:49] boulevard at which time I

[3:07:52] parked my car the parking lot

[3:07:53] to speak to the officers about

[3:07:56] what I have conveyed here in in

[3:07:57] response to my story they asked

[3:08:00] me about the current location

[3:08:04] of the following items at which

[3:08:05] time I opened the trunk of my

[3:08:07] car and presented them with the

[3:08:07] articles in question in

[3:08:08] conjunction with our

[3:08:10] conversation the officers

[3:08:11] carefully examined the items at

[3:08:12] which time one of the officers

[3:08:15] linked the findings to the

[3:08:16] madisonville police department

[3:08:19] at the conclusion of my time

[3:08:20] with these two officers they

[3:08:22] took the items in question with

[3:08:23] them so that the items could be

[3:08:26] dispositioned accordingly.

[3:08:27] in summary, my message via this

[3:08:28] communication to the knoxville

[3:08:31] city council anti-american can

[3:08:31] and is simple.

[3:08:34] I was impressed with officer

[3:08:35] kincannon and officer eubanks

[3:08:37] on february 27 twenty twenty

[3:08:38] six at which time they conveyed

[3:08:41] and is conveyed in this message

[3:08:42] .

[3:08:42] these two officers have

[3:08:43] excellent people skills in

[3:08:46] their interaction with the

[3:08:46] public and in my opinion are

[3:08:47] valuable assets to the

[3:08:50] knoxville police department.

[3:08:51] to that end it is obvious to me

[3:08:54] that knoxville police chief

[3:08:54] knowles selection process for

[3:08:55] police officers to providing

[3:08:58] officers that care about the

[3:08:59] public that they are protected.

[3:09:04] sir, thank thank you, mr. Tyvi

[3:09:05] last person signed up to speak

[3:09:08] is mary ann garner.

[3:09:12] uh, apparently she is nola ok

[3:09:15] council members that includes

[3:09:16] public forum and without

[3:09:17] objection this meeting

[3:09:53] is adjourned and

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