[0:11] I call to order the like advocacy city council regular meeting on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 6 p.m.

[0:18] We'll now have an invocation from chaplain B. Evans, from K&L, the Christian radio.

[0:24] Followed by the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Paul Antnidue, from the Elxlage, 2399.

[0:31] Good evening everybody. May I take a minute to congratulate our new old seated members.

[0:36] We, the people, have spoken, and obviously they liked what you've done in the past, and they want to watch what you're going to do in the future.

[0:47] Let's pray.

[0:48] Father God, we just love you so much, and we thank you, Lord, that all these decisions aren't only in our hands.

[0:55] That when we ask for wisdom you are so gracious to give it, and this council knows that.

[1:01] So we just thank you, Father, for them tonight.

[1:04] We just asked that there is BS and there will be no, that they know that you're behind

[1:10] their answers.

[1:11] And we just thank you, Father, they know that you love the people of Lake Havasu City

[1:17] and I know they do too.

[1:19] Father, I just looked at the United States of America before you tonight.

[1:22] How can we not ask you to continue to keep your hand on us, Father?

[1:27] We just know what would happen if you lifted that hand from us.

[1:31] We would be a puff of smoke and we know it so we just thank you Lord for all that you do all that you're going to do tonight

[1:39] and we give you all the praise, all the glory and the mighty name of Jesus, amen.

[1:55] Please remove covers and recite with me the Pledge of Allegiance.

[1:59] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

[2:07] One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[2:16] Thank you.

[2:19] Thank you, Mayor Shee, and Council members, for the sapportunity this evening to speak to the masses.

[2:27] I am Paul at NATO, exalted ruler of Lake Havasu City, Elx Lodge, number 23, 99.

[2:33] The benevolent and protective order of Elx was established in 1868 for the purpose of practicing

[2:42] four cardinal principles of the order, charity, justice, brotherly love and fidelity.

[2:50] With me this evening is Pauline the Nod, my chaplain, Jackie Turcott, my Esquire and

[2:58] also the Lodge photographer, and my brother-in-law, Hank the Nard, who's the past exalted

[3:05] ruler, past deputy district, grand exalted ruler, and currently a West district leader.

[3:14] So we have a history, a family history in the Elx.

[3:19] The charitable or benevolent side of the lodge, we are committed to support our veterans.

[3:29] We hold a flag day ceremony which is open to the public.

[3:32] At Christmas time we send gifts to the Prescott VA hospital for the patients.

[3:39] We participate in parades in our community.

[3:41] We say thank you for your service as long as there are veterans the order of Elx will help.

[3:50] We also are a major supporter of the Steel Children's Hospital in Research Center

[3:55] and the Jacksea Water Youth Camp free to all youth in Arizona.

[4:03] We are also committed to the youth and drug at witness programs here at home.

[4:08] We host the family swim day during youth week, and at the end of the Sikkim event,

[4:17] grant funds are utilized to host team break and additional swim day in February to express our love of this entire community.

[4:28] Several of our members have been certified by the city to assist in after school programs, such as soccer shoot and who shoot.

[4:37] one of those. At Christmas time, we are very busy at the

[4:43] lodge. Our auxiliary, the Elkets sponsor kids turn to shop at the

[4:48] lodge, where children can shop for gifts for their family. We receive a

[4:54] grant each year to sponsor a giving tree program, which allows

[5:00] How's us to close the Proximately 90 children? And finally, our Christmas basket program, which provides food for the families, the needy families, and Christmas gifts for the children in the household, all delivered by Elx to homes in our community.

[5:20] Our large features, numerous activities, card playing, shuffleboard,

[5:29] a book exchange library, and so on.

[5:33] It's just a busy place with a bar seven days a week, restaurant six days a week served food,

[5:39] entertainment on Fridays and Saturdays and Wednesdays in the fall and winter.

[5:44] We also have an RV park with 25 full hookups and several dry sites.

[5:54] We are a member's only lodge in order to become a member.

[5:58] You must be an American citizen who believes in God.

[6:02] Our lodge currently has a little over 4,000 members with 67 awaiting initiation this month.

[6:12] If you would like to be part of the Great Order of Elcs,

[6:15] not by the law, John McCollock Boulevard,

[6:17] and we'll be happy to give you an application.

[6:21] And in closing, remember Elcs,

[6:23] Care, Elcs, Share. Thank you.

[6:27] Thank you so much, and thank you for being here.

[6:29] And for all the great work you do in our community.

[6:31] Thank you. Thank you.

[6:33] All right, the next item on our agenda is our local misplains.

[6:36] If you please call the roll.

[6:37] Council members, Nancy Campbell, here.

[6:39] Jenny Coke here David Lane here Michelle Lynn here Cameron Moses here Vice Mayor Jim Dolan here me are Kalshigi here. Thank you. Thank you

[6:52] I don't five on the agenda is our call to the public. This is where citizens have an opportunity to address the city council within items with in the jurisdiction of Lake Habsou city

[7:01] You have three minutes to make your remarks to the council. There is a light indicator box next to Miss Williams green means you have three minutes

[7:07] the 11-inch of one minute remaining and red means up at three minutes is up.

[7:11] If you are here for one of the public hearings, we do encourage you to wait until that

[7:14] time so that we can have a two-way conversation because during call to the public, since

[7:18] it's not on the agenda, we can just listen intently to whatever your comments may be.

[7:23] You don't have to sign up necessarily to speak a call to the public, but we did have several

[7:26] citizens do so, so we'll start with those citizens and then we'll open up to anyone else.

[7:30] So the first person that signed up for calls to the public is Karen Bannerjack.

[7:33] Good

[7:42] evening, Karen Vanderchack, 45-year tax payer in Lake

[7:46] Addasu.

[7:47] I just wanted to take this opportunity during call

[7:49] to the public to acknowledge and thank

[7:51] a few city council members and clarify some misunderstandings.

[7:55] Thank you, Councilman Lynn, for suggesting agenda 8.3

[7:58] and Councilwoman Campbell for a second need to,

[8:00] so it would go on to the agenda.

[8:02] We need a discussion of accountability for Go Lake Addasu.

[8:05] Now, I also wanted to commend Vice Mayor Dolan, Councilman Lane,

[8:09] and Councilman Moses. These men stood firm on not wanting to go ahead with a three-year contract

[8:15] to the city with Go Lake Havasu. They wanted more accountability. Good job, gentlemen.

[8:21] However, they lost the vote. So now we're dealing with this three-year contract in 1.3 million

[8:26] of our bed tax and our restaurant tax that belongs to the city going to an out-of-control advertising

[8:32] entity. One other, I put pretty luminary item. I'd like to address is the law.

[8:37] namely title 13 criminal code 13-4102, which I passed out to the council at the last meeting.

[8:44] Mayor Xi had gone on KMTR and he said he was not concerned because it only deals with

[8:54] it only deals with indecent exposure and so it shouldn't be as concerned for the drug show.

[9:01] So he stated that on the radio. So for the record, the statement, that statement is in disingenuous

[9:07] And under the A part of that, it states the defendant is reckless about whether the other person would be offended or alarmed by the act and twice in part C and D of the law.

[9:20] It mentions minors. It says quote in decent exposure to a person under 15 years of age is a class 6 felony unquote and D.

[9:28] a quote involving in decent exposure or public sexual

[9:32] in decency to a minor, who under the age of 15 is guilty of a classroom felony.

[9:37] So, I'm asking Mayor Sheehy to just that track his statement that this is not,

[9:43] it does mention these minors, and that just wanted him to make sure that, you know, he's aware of that.

[9:51] I will put my statements forward, I go like have a sue, issues, and I point three,

[9:56] But I'd like to just mention something a man said in my church.

[10:00] Picking them with a clown, makeup, and clothing depicting a prostitute on the street corner. I'm insulted and little girls who attend this event are being exposed to this as normal and okay to insult womenhood. Many towns throughout the U.S. are stopping these shows. We have only asked that you stop supporting the show with advertising and perhaps a statement going on the record that you would make this an adult only event for the safety of the children. Thank you.

[10:25] Thank you. The next speaker is Cindy Johnson.

[10:48] Good evening. Cindy Johnson,

[10:50] resident of Havasu City. I'd like to clarify the misunderstanding in regards to the rallies

[10:58] about the drag queen shows. They are not, nor have they ever been. Any hatred towards our gay community.

[11:08] It is not about that. It is not about being gay. It is not about being transgender. It is about the kids.

[11:18] Have the show, don't include the kids.

[11:22] It's not uncommon to have an age restricted event.

[11:28] I see all the time, by your tickets, must be 21 years and older.

[11:32] It's not the government telling parents what they can and cannot do with their kids.

[11:39] Have the show, don't include the kids.

[11:42] Last month in Dallas, Texas, at a family friendly, all ages welcome, drag queen show.

[11:50] A drag queen created a little boy from the audience in front of a pink neon sign.

[11:56] This said it's not gonna lick itself.

[11:58] Maybe that was the comedy part of the show I heard these are supposed to be comedy.

[12:04] But if you saw the report after the show, it wasn't so family friendly there.

[12:11] So I'm asking you how the show don't include the kids.

[12:17] Your city council, you are our mayor and the manager of the venue.

[12:22] If anyone can make this an age restricted event, it's you.

[12:29] Have the show.

[12:31] Don't include the kids.

[12:33] Thank you.

[12:34] Thank you.

[12:37] The next speaker is Dale Ray.

[12:42] Dale Ray.

[12:56] My name is Dale Ray.

[12:58] Mr. Mayor, council and city leaders.

[13:01] I thank you for all that you've done for the citizens of Lake Havasu and for our children.

[13:06] And I am greatly concerned about a scheduled drag queen event.

[13:11] I'm the local pastor for 42 of my 50 years in Lake

[13:14] Aviso City, and I've been with the Lake Aviso City Police

[13:16] Department.

[13:17] I said volunteer chaplain for 38 years.

[13:20] I have the same amount of time with the Mojave County Sheriff's

[13:23] Department.

[13:24] I've heard confessions of men and jail who have abused

[13:28] their children and grandchildren.

[13:30] One city had no idea it was wrong to sexually abuse

[13:33] his granddaughter, he had done the same to her mother, and never gotten in trouble.

[13:38] Abuse of children is reprehensive. As a pastor, I'm obligated to watch over the children

[13:43] in my care and report any abuse to the authorities. Passers have gotten into a great deal

[13:49] of trouble in recent history. For not protecting, I'm reporting child abuse. You are a part

[13:55] of the moral gatekeepers of Lake Havasu City, and are sworn to watch over and protect

[14:00] all citizens. Certainly the children interested in your care deserve protection. You have

[14:06] sworn obligation to do your duty. Child abuse is wrong. Abuse of parents should be prosecuted

[14:13] and potentially jailed when found guilty of child abuse. Pastors should be prosecuted

[14:18] and potentially jailed when deemed guilty of child abuse were lack of its report. As mayor

[14:25] and city administrators, you have a civic and moral obligation to protect the citizens of

[14:30] And the more so, the most vulnerable among us, if not, there should be prosecution and potential

[14:37] jail time, when deemed guilty of child abuse.

[14:40] Be it parent, clergy, civic leader, or other.

[14:43] Drag queen events may be a constitutional right, but there is a moral law that is even

[14:49] higher.

[14:50] And parents, grandparents, pastors.

[15:00] And city leaders must protect our children. In doing so, it is the city's position to consider and restrict any contract with go like have a suit or any other entity in an entity.

[15:14] In doing so, the city's position must make it clear that sexual behavior and that affects innocent children.

[15:21] possibly consider sexually abusive to their eyes, mind, or body of a child. None of us should ever be so ignorant as to say, I had no idea it was wrong.

[15:35] Thank you.

[15:38] That concludes that concludes this is a signed up for Call to the Public.

[15:42] Would anyone else like to address the city during called it yeah, please make way to stay at the podium and stay to name for the record?

[15:48] Hi, my name is Peggy Pollock. I live in Lake Havasu for 23 years.

[15:54] I came up with an idea that I would like to present.

[15:58] How about instead of having all of the energy going towards gay pride? Why don't we as a community do something like have a pride?

[16:10] and how picnics and for the July type celebrations where we have something planned for the kids,

[16:19] a boat parade, a patriotic boat parade, boats with real flags on them, going down the channel,

[16:27] foot races, softball. I've been to some of the best for the July celebrations ever, and we could

[16:35] take away the significance of gay pride by saying we're proud of how to sue and have another

[16:44] event planned. Thank you. Thank you, but everyone else I'd like to address during

[16:52] the public and again if you are here for a particular item we'd do encourage you to wait till

[16:55] that time.

[17:00] Don Wisdom. Good evening, Kassel. I see a lot of talks about the

[17:08] the parade they're going to have with the show. Something that's dark

[17:13] sanity, and nobody know what that is. Constitutionally. When that

[17:19] be nice if we celebrate the Constitution, I think that's a little bit more

[17:23] important in what everybody's talking about. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Mr.

[17:37] Tom Goodfell 08-7

[17:39] for Shalain Drive. First and most important thank you for what you all do. I've done that

[17:46] role twice. It's not an easy job at all. So thank you all very much. I'm here to talk to you

[17:54] about coincidentally Lake Havocicity U.S. Constitution Week.

[18:01] What that is, in case those that don't know, it, in 1955, the daughters of the

[18:08] American Revolution, Petition Congress, to set aside some time annually, September 17th

[18:15] to the 23rd.

[18:17] So, we're going to, my group or my committee is bringing that to Lake Havasu for the first year, however, I know Dar has done some things in the past, but we're bringing that event for an entire week.

[18:34] And just if you were to, on your cell phone, if you were to type in 36 US code 1008, you would find constitution week. Here's the guidelines.

[18:44] The President has requested to use you each year a proclamation, designating September 17th through the 23rd as Constitution Week and inviting the people of United States to observe Constitution Week in schools, churches and other suitable places with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

[19:06] So that's what we intend to do.

[19:10] Our web address is www.lakehaversuscity.us Constitution Week.

[19:19] I did this for 10 years in Colorado.

[19:22] And it ended up being the biggest event in the county.

[19:25] And certainly the town too.

[19:27] It was pretty successful.

[19:29] So I'm hoping that it'll be a success here.

[19:31] We bring in constitutional scholars to get us started, and then hopefully in the future we might have parades or those things.

[19:43] We don't political parties, we don't support political parties, either Democrats or Republicans,

[19:51] This is totally about the Constitution in America, and so I hope you come, and

[20:00] Our schedule, you'll see at a QR code that will get you to our website and, you know, there's a whole lot more to tell you, but I think that that probably gets it, gets it going, and I will say also that the business community has been very generous with donations to get this going where a 501C3 and this first year has just been phenomenal. So thank you all.

[20:25] Thank you.

[20:27] What do you would also like to address the Council during call to the public to make

[20:30] your way to the Ponyman station name for the record?

[20:37] I don't know.

[20:37] That's tall as him.

[20:38] My name is Frankie Lyons, Veterans United Arizona.

[20:42] If you guys recall, last November, I brought to this city council an opportunity for you to

[20:46] stand for this community and bring it together with a dental fair clinic.

[20:51] The only one of you who stood up with us from Michelle and the gentleman from Adosae who

[20:57] provided food for 300 people, both days.

[21:01] It was a free event for this community.

[21:04] And for whatever you're reason you have with me, Cal.

[21:07] It's not fair for this city to miss out on something like that.

[21:11] We're going to try to bring it back here in 2024.

[21:15] And I'm hoping you guys have the integrity to step up.

[21:19] Thank you.

[21:20] And for the record I was there, Frank, these two days actually.

[21:24] So yeah, thank you.

[21:25] All right. Yeah, it would just somebody else like to speak during call to the public.

[21:31] Yes. Okay.

[21:32] I'd like to

[21:41] speak in generous. Thank you for listening to me.

[21:44] And by the way, life is a great precious gift. Please don't ever forget that part.

[21:49] Oh, thank you.

[21:51] I actually wrote myself notes that I remembered. First of all, I want to make sure-

[21:55] Oh, sorry.

[21:55] Hi, Kelly. I'm Bonnie Toy.

[21:57] Just in case.

[22:00] Okay, so I forget going out.

[22:03] First, first, I won't forget the fact that I would like to remind you to please look after the children's summer vacation next year, consider lowering the rate.

[22:14] I never asked for it to be free, asked for it to be a considerable, reasonable cost for parents to be able to send their multiples of children to the aquatic center every single day of the week that it's open.

[22:30] period. And at $5 a kid, if you have $5 a child, if you have three children, that's

[22:38] $15 a day. At five, six days a week, that becomes unsustainable. And having to pay

[22:46] some $2,300 for one child's little pass type thing again, unsustainable for a family who can't

[22:58] and I'm just saying to please lower the call during the summer vacations only for those

[23:05] kits. Next, I would like to remind you that you guys promised to consider lowering the tax rates

[23:13] for next season. Don't want to forget to remember to say that. Now, I do have a couple of

[23:22] other issues that I happen to notice with the city and I hope that you guys can figure out

[23:26] to address some of those. One, during the power outage that the city had, the portions of the city

[23:36] had no power for over 33 hours and some of them had pets and grief were told. They were told.

[23:46] They asked that they could not bring the pets to the only emergency shelter that was available for them

[23:53] to use an access during the time of the power outage.

[24:01] Next, you have a gentleman who's you guys on your city Facebook page

[24:06] is being requested to attempt to locate whether he's missing or not.

[24:11] Several people have asked on the Facebook page.

[24:15] Hey, is this person still in need of medical assistance

[24:19] that you guys claim that he needs medical assistance for?

[24:24] And instead of one Facebook manager answering that question, not one person has ever answered

[24:33] that question to anybody on that post.

[24:37] So they are under the assumption that that man is either found and being who knows what

[24:43] because apparently he was also the person who may have or may not have done school threats.

[24:51] So I have no idea if any of that's true, however your Facebook page does not answer those questions.

[25:00] Would anyone else like to address the city council to take a hold of public? Please make a right

[25:03] of the podium, a station name for the record.

[25:08] Robert Fisher, I'd like to suggest that the

[25:12] go like have a suit, add the agenda for Constitution week to their page so that people can

[25:19] see it. It's not on there and it's a really interesting event with some really interesting

[25:24] high-quality out-of-town speakers coming to it, as well as the barbecue on Saturday.

[25:29] So I would encourage this, the Golden Academy Zoo to add that agenda to their page, so people

[25:35] can find it.

[25:37] Thank you.

[25:45] Hi.

[25:45] Greg Logan, local eccentric.

[25:47] I'd like to just see, it's true.

[25:51] I'd just like to amplify what Tom Goodfell said about Constitution week.

[25:56] It starts at the 10 o'clock eight o'clock this Saturday in the library with a flag

[26:05] raise it to her morning?

[26:07] Bell ringing to her morning.

[26:09] Well, I told you I was eccentric.

[26:12] Anyway, that's what's going on.

[26:14] So start getting involved with the Constitution.

[26:18] Thank you.

[26:19] Thank you.

[26:23] All right.

[26:23] What am I also like to address the city council's drink

[26:25] called the public?

[26:30] Ginger Lake, have a seat.

[26:31] I just want to say they're trying to watch it online.

[26:34] And whoever your AV guy is, they don't seem to be getting it online.

[26:38] Yeah.

[26:38] Thank you for that feedback.

[26:42] When I would also like to address city councils during public public.

[26:46] All right, seeing that, I'm going to go ahead and close the, oh yeah, again, if you're here for a particular item, we'd do encourage you to wake that up.

[26:53] I'm going to talk on a speak on an item on the agenda in the future, but I did want to say how important it is to have constitution week.

[27:02] We've tried to teach our youth a lot of gotten country over these a number of years, and we're trying to reach them so that they could be not only good citizens, but that they can be the stars of their community.

[27:14] And so I'm hoping that people will come and hear these excellent guest speakers.

[27:18] The Mr. and Mrs. Goodfellow have coordinated to have here.

[27:22] The admissions free, except for a seminar.

[27:25] However, the benefit we can derive from it is worth a million.

[27:32] God bless you and God bless America.

[27:34] Thank you.

[27:44] Hi guys, me again.

[27:46] I'm Trostos Chelsea.

[27:47] I came this time.

[27:48] I'm going to stay for the other parts, but I just wanted to

[27:51] tell you that the person in charge of the Greg show has sent me to read this to you because

[27:58] they're obviously out of state and just hoping that you know can clear something up.

[28:06] So he says you know each entertainer signs a contract and knows the performance should be

[28:11] family friendly.

[28:12] They will be mindful of the language and music and will act accordingly knowing that

[28:17] knowing it is all age event.

[28:19] No child is allowed in the venue without a guardian.

[28:22] Those families who are of the community, who are LGBTQ plus children, or simply one exposer

[28:29] children to the art, should be able to do so.

[28:32] They are the parents making the decisions for the children and what they do or don't do

[28:39] not decide to do for their children, should be the preview of that parent.

[28:44] If we care about children, let's also talk about the suicide rates.

[28:48] There's too many children of the LGBTQ community community suicide because of the messages

[28:53] that are being sent to them.

[28:55] People need to know that they are accepted and loved and at this event hopefully helps

[29:01] provide such space because we know that Havasu has enough events that are more far more

[29:08] risk-a than this event will be.

[29:11] Go Lake Havasu does not fund the event.

[29:13] This event is funded strictly through ticket sales.

[29:16] Last year we sold 330 purchase tickets,

[29:19] and we had to turn people away at the door.

[29:22] While some may not want this event, there are many who do.

[29:26] Lake Havasu is actually the leading sales of our tour,

[29:30] and is already nearly sold out.

[29:32] The director of the Pride Tour is wondering if two shows

[29:35] are actually needed because of the demand.

[29:38] Lake Havasu is over 50,000 people.

[29:41] one in 10 individuals are said to be LGBTQ plus and through their yeah please please we

[29:49] have to be respectful yes it is true and through the research of that number the race the race

[29:56] are going up. Go link have a suicide.

[30:00] This is about have a suit as a whole and supports its community, including the approximate 5,000 LGBTQ plus individuals within the city. They have a right to the events, they pay taxes, just as much as the next person.

[30:14] And I'm here to tell you, this is in term, that you are going to stop you event. I have three commercial buildings, and there will be a venue for this resort if London Bridge Resorts is sized to pull out.

[30:25] After the protest and the picketing, I want to tell you that ticket sales skyrocketed.

[30:31] So thank you everybody because promoting it has been great for us.

[30:35] I also have videos and pictures from last year's show that I took because I went to the event.

[30:41] If anyone is interested to be educated, you are more than welcome to come see me and I'll give them to you.

[30:47] Thank you.

[30:48] Thank you.

[30:49] All right.

[30:49] Would anyone else like to speak to the public?

[30:53] All right.

[30:53] We'll go ahead and close the public and come on to our next item, which is item 6, the

[30:57] consent agenda.

[30:58] What are any of the council members like to remove any of the items that consent for

[31:01] separate discussion?

[31:03] We are having a challenge with our electronic voting systems, so we're going to do a voice

[31:07] vote throughout this evening.

[31:09] This evening's meeting.

[31:11] Mayor?

[31:11] Yes.

[31:11] Councilmember Coke?

[31:12] Motion?

[31:13] Move that we approve the consent agenda as presented.

[31:16] Second.

[31:16] We have a motion from Councilmember Koch and a second from Councilmember Lane, is there any additional discussion?

[31:22] Seeing, and now we're ready to vote, I'll bear a please say aye.

[31:26] Aye.

[31:27] Opposed.

[31:29] Motion carries.

[31:30] Am I going to call that out?

[31:32] Either way.

[31:33] Motion carries.

[31:34] Seven to zero.

[31:35] Thank you.

[31:36] Thank you.

[31:37] All right.

[31:38] We'll now move on to item seven, which is correspondence, communications,

[31:42] petitions, announcements, and the city manager report.

[31:44] Item seven point.

[31:45] And one is announced vacancies on the Kansas City Board's Committees and Commissions, Ms.

[31:48] Williams.

[31:49] Thank you, Mayor and City Council.

[31:50] There are a couple of vacancies on the Kansas City Board's Committees and Commissions.

[31:54] The following is a listing of those vacancies.

[31:57] Board of Adjustment, three alternate members.

[31:59] For anyone interested, we have packets available at City Hall, and they are also available

[32:03] on the City's website at LHCAZ.gov.

[32:06] Thank you.

[32:07] Thank you.

[32:09] Item 7.2 is our investment report as of June 30, 2022.

[32:13] to Mr. Olson provided this in your packet.

[32:15] This is just for our records and let's do our any questions.

[32:19] Moving on to item 7.3 is the fiscal year of 2021-22 Fourth

[32:23] Quarter Contracted Agents and Reports.

[32:26] Chief Doyle provided this in the packet for our reference.

[32:29] And it is just to be filed for the record.

[32:32] And then item 7.4 is our city manager report.

[32:35] Good evening, Mr. Connitson.

[32:36] Good evening, Mayor.

[32:37] Good evening, Council.

[32:38] What that's loud.

[32:40] Start the report this evening, recognize the excellence, and from our high school students,

[32:48] our habits to youth advisory council recently delivered school supplies, collected from

[32:52] the inaugural support our schools supplied drive.

[32:55] It was held last month in August.

[32:57] Youth members met with the team at the Lake Kavice Realtor Center, and everyone dispersed throughout

[33:02] the, and dispersed the, the items throughout the community, and delivering supplies to

[33:06] all the schools.

[33:07] Every school benefited from this fundraiser, special thanks from the Habits to Youth Advisory Council,

[33:15] which again is our high school students, early our leaders, we'd like to thank the mayor and council as well as city staff and the community for their donations to help support our school teachers and the schools.

[33:29] Mayor she, he, council members, Dave Lane, Cameron Moses, Nancy Campbell and Michelle Lynn.

[33:33] You'll attended the Marine Corps League ceremony in honor of the one year anniversary of the loss of 13 US service members and other victims killed in a terrorist attack on August 26.

[33:45] Just last year in Kabul Afghanistan.

[33:48] As commemorate the anniversary, the London Bridge was a little made red, white, and blue for that for that evening.

[33:55] Like you have the City Police Department, Jail Supervisor, John Alena, received special

[34:00] recognition from Mayor Sheehy and Judge Klawli for his active involvement in the Veterans

[34:04] Treatment Court.

[34:05] John, who is a United States Marine Corps veteran, serves as delays on between the courts

[34:09] and the police department to give back to the community and help our local veterans, as well

[34:13] as this recognition is well-earned, and we thank you for your service, John.

[34:18] Mayor Sheehy proclaimed September 9th as al-Elroy Long Day, and Lake Havasuciti, and

[34:25] of his 100 and 3rd birthday.

[34:29] He was also joined by Senator Sonny Burrelli and the American Legion Post 70 to recognize

[34:33] his distinguished military service and 29 years of service to the American Legion.

[34:39] Mayor Xi and Vice Mayor Jim Dolan, you kicked off the annual Suicide Prevention Awareness

[34:43] Walk just last Saturday with a proclamation which proclaimed September as National Suicide

[34:49] Prevention Month.

[34:51] I think they had over 150 participants at that walk.

[34:54] Mayor, she reclaimed the week of September 17th through September 23rd as Constitutional Week.

[35:00] And honor of the documents 234th Anniversary and presented the proclamation to the daughters of the American Revolution.

[35:07] This proclamation urges all of our citizens to reaffirm the ideals if framers of the Constitution had.

[35:12] In 1787, by violently protecting the freedom guaranteed to us through this guardian of liberties.

[35:21] And, Mayor, she ordered that the London Bridge be eliminated purple to be the final royal fee

[35:27] to mourn the loss of Queen Elizabeth II. Over the past 50 years, the iconic London Bridge

[35:32] has stood as a symbol of historic ties between Lake Havasus city and the city of London,

[35:36] and the pledge of continuing friendship between our two cities. Consequently, a letter was received

[35:42] in the mayor's office from the king, from the king by way of the British consulate general

[35:47] of Los Angeles, thanking Lake Hamister City for the kind and thoughtful message on social

[35:51] media, paying tribute to her majesty, offering condolences to the people of the UK, as

[35:56] well as lighting the London Bridge purple. Mayor and Mayor Shee and Council Member Nancy

[36:02] Campbell and Michelle Lynn, you attended the 9-11 ceremony just this last Sunday, in honor

[36:07] of the 21st Anniversary of the Terrace of Attack on U.S. soil and paid your respects to the

[36:12] nearly 3000 people that died that day, and to celebrate our reclaimed unity that followed

[36:17] followed after that tremendous event.

[36:20] The bridge was led, was led red, white, and blue in their honor, and we remember, and we will never forget.

[36:27] They are in council that concludes my report for this evening.

[36:30] Thank you.

[36:32] All right.

[36:32] We'll move on to our public hearing portion of our meeting.

[36:34] We'll start with item 8.1.

[36:35] This approved the cooperative purchase agreement of Police Department duty weapons from

[36:39] Forest Law Enforcement, Captain Sterling.

[36:43] Good evening, Council.

[36:44] Mr. Mayor.

[36:45] Thank you for having me.

[36:46] Tonight, we are seeking Council's approval of a cooperative purchase agreement for department

[36:50] duty weapons from pro-force law enforcement utilizing an Arizona State contract.

[36:56] So the police department is currently utilizing the SIGS sour P320 for patrol and the P365

[37:03] for playing close assignments and we're perfectly happy with the weapon system that we currently

[37:07] have.

[37:08] What we are seeking is to move to a newer version of this weapon platform which will be

[37:16] instead of traditional iron sites.

[37:19] This optic emits a red dot that allows officers

[37:21] to have a more improved target focus

[37:23] in various lighting conditions.

[37:25] Optics allow shooters to be target focused versus site focused.

[37:29] Being target focused allows for more accurate shots

[37:32] and a clear sense of the background or the backdrop.

[37:35] That's important for allowing officers

[37:37] to make good use of force decisions.

[37:40] What agencies have witnessed with transitioning to optics

[37:43] is an increase in overall shooter performance

[37:45] increase in shooter confidence, and the accuracy of rounds on target, which are all good

[37:51] things from liability perspective.

[37:55] In addition to providing the new weapons, pro-force

[37:57] will provide us with a trade credit for the purchase of our current duty weapons. So ultimately

[38:03] the cost of breakdown is the new weapons will cost $78,353.61. With an offsetting trade credit

[38:12] of $27,000, $3.21 for an ultimate net cost of $51,349 in $0.40.

[38:20] To go along with that, we recently sold that our surplus option seized weapons, which we

[38:26] do on occasion, in that case we collected just over $80,000, so these proceeds will go

[38:31] towards the funding of this purchase.

[38:34] With that, I'm more happy to answer any questions.

[38:37] Thank you, Captain Sterling.

[38:38] Are there any questions of members of the council for the captain?

[38:40] All right, this is the public hearing when I would like to address the City Council on this matter.

[38:49] Seeing that, I will close the public hearing and bring it back to Council for discussion or possible motion.

[38:53] Mr. Mayor, motion, yeah, Council on the line.

[38:55] I move to approve cooperative purchase agreement with Pro Force law enforcement utilizing areas on the state contract CTR 049168.

[39:03] For the purchase of duty weapons for the Lake Hav City Police Department in the amount of 70,000, 352 dollars and 61 cents,

[39:10] Then I've set in trade credit of $27,000, $3.21,

[39:15] I've authorized the City Manager to execute the agreement

[39:17] and I've authorized City staff to exercise the option

[39:20] to renew for two additional one-year terms for defense

[39:23] and law enforcement services,

[39:25] material or equipment under contract.

[39:28] Second, we have a motion from Councilman Lane

[39:30] in a second from Council Member Moses.

[39:31] Is there any additional discussion?

[39:35] Hearing none, I'm ready to vote.

[39:36] Do all those in favor, please say aye.

[39:39] Opposed?

[39:41] Motion carrying 700.

[39:44] Thank you.

[39:46] All right.

[39:46] Item 8.2 is approved of cooperative purchase

[39:48] with extra play ink for the removal

[39:50] and installation of the software playground service service

[39:52] that remada B and rotary community park.

[39:55] Mr. King.

[39:55] Thank you, Mayor, in the Honorable Council.

[39:58] Yeah.

[39:58] So the item in front.

[40:00] I mean, the night is to remove and replace the soft place surface at the Romata B playground in Rovery Park.

[40:07] For those of you that are on from might be unfamiliar with exactly where the playground is, it's in the middle of Rovery Park, it's the little kids playground.

[40:16] On the soft place surface was installed in 2011, and it's beyond its life and is very pot-hold right now, and needs to be repaired and replaced.

[40:26] The purchase price of 92,000 and 92,85 cents is in our budget this year to replace that

[40:34] surface. The surface around some of the other playgrounds you'll see that we have rubber

[40:39] chips that's for fall protection. This surface provides that same fall protection, but

[40:46] also allows wheelchairs, strollers to be able to access the playground itself. So with that,

[40:53] would look forward to your approval.

[40:56] Thank you, Mr. Keen.

[40:57] Do there any questions?

[40:58] Members of the council?

[40:59] Mr. Keen?

[41:01] All right.

[41:02] This is a public hearing.

[41:03] Would anyone like to address the city council on this matter?

[41:16] It's a really simple question.

[41:17] Bonnie, just in case you need that too.

[41:22] Is how long will this new stuff last?

[41:25] Great question, Mr. Keen.

[41:30] We got 11 and 12 years out of this.

[41:32] We expect to get the same.

[41:33] The product is guaranteed for five years.

[41:36] But again, we do expect to get the same life expectancy out of it.

[41:41] Thank you.

[41:42] But even else, I'd like to address the counts on this matter.

[41:46] Seeing now, we'll go ahead and close the public hearing and bring it back to Council for discussion or possible motion.

[41:51] Mr. Mayor.

[41:52] You'll for a jump.

[41:52] I'd like to turn it on.

[41:53] I'd like Cameron to make a motion.

[41:59] Okay.

[42:00] Mayor.

[42:02] I moved a group of operator-persons agreement with extra-playing for the removal and installation of the soft playground surface.

[42:07] that were mod of B in Rotor Community Park in the amount of $92,000, $92 and 85 cents

[42:16] and authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement.

[42:19] Second.

[42:21] We have a motion from Councillor Moses, second from Vice Mayor Dolan, is there any additional

[42:25] discussion?

[42:27] Seeing number right to vote, I'll very please say aye.

[42:30] Aye.

[42:31] Opposed?

[42:34] Motion carries.

[42:35] Seven to zero.

[42:36] Thank you.

[42:39] The next item on the agenda is item 8.3 discussion and presentation from Gold Lake

[42:43] Cavassu.

[42:44] This is Convention and Business Bureau regarding the professional services

[42:47] agreement with Lake Cavassu City.

[42:49] Mr. Conutten?

[42:50] Yes.

[42:52] Yeah.

[42:52] Thank you, Mayor and Council.

[42:53] Before I start with that too, just a technical issue in terms of the

[42:58] Organicists software program that runs the avoiding mechanism and the video on

[43:03] the website is down.

[43:05] But for those that want to pass along the word is available on Channel 4.

[43:08] and it's available at lacaz.gov slash tv.

[43:12] So I just wanted to put that out there.

[43:14] We're working to correct that issue as soon as we can.

[43:18] Mayor, Council Member Lynn, and Council Member Campbell,

[43:21] at that your request, we've brought forward this agenda item

[43:25] for yours and for the Council's consideration.

[43:29] And what you have in here is the,

[43:31] and the request was, excuse me, for the contract between the city

[43:35] and go like Avisu, that contract is in your packet and be able to answer any questions that

[43:42] you may have. I can quite write a quick summary. This was an agreement that was entered into

[43:47] back in March of last year. It became effective in April 21st of last year and it is a contract

[43:55] that's good for three years. It includes an annual sum of $1.6 million that goes to go like Avisu

[44:03] on an annual basis.

[44:05] This is a professional services agreement,

[44:07] so those funds go to go like Havasu, go to that entity.

[44:11] And in return, we expect, and we are given

[44:16] professional services for the dollars that are provided.

[44:20] We've asked the, and some of those responsibilities

[44:23] that are included are to promote like Havasu City.

[44:25] That's pretty much the first and foremost.

[44:28] To promote like Havasu City as a tourism,

[44:31] destination and to drive traffic to Lake Havasu City to serve as the primary

[44:36] contact for tourism and the promotion of Lake Havasu City. They've been

[44:40] designated as the main contact through the Arizona Office of

[44:44] Tourism to establish a visitor center that takes place here in

[44:51] Lake Havasu City and do a fine job with that, that's the leadership of

[44:57] there is a Britain Court of the Republic.

[45:01] But you specify exactly what's supposed to be in that report. And that is a delivered by Vice-Volna Cavassum that comes directly to my office and then I pass that report on to all of the council, to all the council.

[45:13] They are asked to collaborate with my office on policy development related to policy development, that's related to tourism, including activities, events, and other events in Lake Cavassum City.

[45:26] to provide a seat on the board to the city manager.

[45:30] Provide an ex-efficial seat on the board to one of our council members.

[45:36] Provide a city with studies and reports that are commissioned

[45:39] to seek alternate grant funds, so not a sole reliance on the city dollars

[45:45] and perform a special project as a sign by the city council or by my office.

[45:51] And they, and the challenges here every year in the springtime to provide an annual presentation

[45:58] to the council and to the public about the things that, you know, the accomplishments

[46:04] for the previous years and some of the goals that have been set forth for the next 12 months.

[46:10] I did some of that as you read through the contract, you'll see that there's some language

[46:13] in there that regarding fiscal responsibility and the need for them to adopt for their

[46:19] to adopt a annual budget and provide the counting that's necessary to segregate the city of taxpayer dollars that go to the

[46:27] to the organization. And as you flip through the pages to some different requests and legal obligations for

[46:35] or insurance, the implication,

[46:38] I'm not a preparation of funds,

[46:39] conflicts of interest,

[46:41] and the termination costs is 120 day.

[46:43] We're gonna notice from like,

[46:46] or excuse me, yeah, from like, like,

[46:48] advocacy city,

[46:50] some language for disputes and some other legal language

[46:55] that is needed to provide a executed agreement

[47:00] to change the entities and protect both parties,

[47:03] including the taxpayer dollars of Lake Havasu City.

[47:07] So with that, that's a very quick summary of the contract.

[47:12] I'm available for any questions.

[47:13] And I know Terence Conquenent, the President's CEO,

[47:17] of the Lake Havasu City, is here with the presentation

[47:20] and available for any questions that may arise.

[47:23] Thank you, Mr. Conquenent.

[47:25] Well, maybe let's segue over to Mr. Conquenent

[47:27] to give us an update and then we can ask questions

[47:30] of both Mr. Conquenent and the same time.

[47:32] Okay, first of all, I'd like to address the gentleman that mentioned putting Constitution

[47:36] week on our, absolutely.

[47:39] As soon as we can find out some more information, we'll put that up there immediately.

[47:43] Second of all, thank you so much for having me.

[47:44] I always love to come and talk about cool.

[47:46] They have a suit to this board and to any board that has me or any group that has,

[47:51] ask me to come visit.

[47:52] I do have, I'm going to address 15 things from the contract.

[47:56] I don't have 15 slides.

[47:57] I am keeping it very short for you.

[48:02] I'm going to press it right there.

[48:12] Perfect.

[48:17] Oh, it should.

[48:20] Left side.

[48:20] There we go.

[48:22] Thank you.

[48:23] Thank you.

[48:24] Thank you.

[48:25] So I wanted to talk about, I'm going to go through a 15 different parts of the contract.

[48:30] I think the most important parts of the contract.

[48:32] I want to let you guys know how we are addressing those.

[48:35] I want to ensure that you, that, not only we're meeting the requirements of our contract,

[48:38] but in some ways we are exceeding them.

[48:40] So the first one is promote Lake Havasu City and serve as primary contract for two or

[48:44] and promotion.

[48:46] To this, I will talk first that our current marketing budget is 53% of our annual budget

[48:51] and we spent about $630,000 on marketing this city as a tourism destination.

[48:58] We feel that what we spend comes back to us in spades with the current tourism revenue,

[49:04] the bad taxes up 26% year over year, and up 59% over 2017.

[49:10] the R&B tax or restaurant and bar taxes, we know it is up 20% and up 32% over

[49:17] 2017. I want to talk a little bit about media management, that's a huge

[49:21] part of what we do. So our organization has, has, brings content creators into town,

[49:30] we work with content creators outside of town. And what we do is we create and bring

[49:35] wonderful stories about our city outside the city so people can know what incredible

[49:39] city we have. In note, in that we have covered every continent except Antarctica with hundreds

[49:46] of positive articles every year, including for our London Bridge 50th anniversary, we worked

[49:51] with several journalists, several publications, and managed to get over almost, I should say,

[49:57] almost four years.

[50:00] 14 million dollars in ad-value equivalency. And for those that aren't sure what that is, for every piece of editorial

[50:07] that we get. The columnage is that that represents the amount we would have to pay equivalent

[50:13] to an ad. So that's very, very important.

[50:19] Staff work weekly, as I said, we have TV campaigns

[50:22] this particular year in four different markets. I'm sorry, five different markets in this country,

[50:27] including Las Vegas, Phoenix, Southern California, Northern California, and Chicago.

[50:32] So, in the next one, designate a established and operated visitor center, I think most people

[50:38] here have probably been to our visitor center, especially since we did about $135,000

[50:43] with renovations four years ago, I want to let the council and everybody here in the gallery

[50:49] know that all the operations and the payroll of one of my staff members are not paid through

[50:54] any dollars of taxes, they are paid through merchandise sales in our visitor center.

[50:58] So again, not $1 tax payer money is used to operate that particular facility.

[51:07] There we go.

[51:08] So provide City Manager with a written quarterly report.

[51:12] We do do this.

[51:13] It's approximately 110 pages for times a year.

[51:15] And in that report, we offer up the board agenda and minutes and financials that we have that we bring forth every month.

[51:21] My monthly Presidents report our annual budget and any updates on grants.

[51:26] We also give you an indication of the sales and the attendance of our visitors in our at our visitor center.

[51:32] We do a marketing and media report so that you know how we're getting the word out.

[51:36] We give an update on our community programs and how we maintain and fund events.

[51:41] Number four, collaborate with City Manager on events and promotions.

[51:45] This is one thing I'm very happy to say that we work very, very well and we work diligently with the Assistant City Manager Anthony Couselowski

[51:52] And I'm sorry that I misspelled your name, Anthony.

[51:55] But he works with us on several committees.

[51:58] He advises a city's position on lots of things we do.

[52:03] And as always, anytime the city or a city manager

[52:06] needs anything from us, we are always happy to help insist.

[52:13] As for updating and maintaining a user-friendly website,

[52:17] as you can, sorry about that.

[52:19] GoLakeHavicy.com is our visitor-facing website.

[52:22] It is also very useful to what the residents of our city.

[52:27] Our users are up 46% year-over-year and our new users, which is even more important, getting

[52:31] the word out to a bunch of new people, 44% year-over-year.

[52:35] We are the largest creator and aggregator of online content about Lake Havocicidium-Bohave

[52:39] County.

[52:40] And we also own a several other websites.

[52:43] Go hikeavocu.com, have us who springbrake.com, LondonbridgeTouric.com, and we're working

[52:48] on something right now trying to work the bugs out.

[52:50] but we have a new app coming, Lake Havasu Ailes and Trails, which helps people, it's an

[52:56] interactive app, which promotes health and wellness by hiking on our trails, but also promotes

[53:02] a good time afterwards by enjoying some of our tap rooms and our group hubs. Provide a voting

[53:08] seat for city manager and non-voting seat for a council member. I'm happy to say that city manager

[53:13] canudson attends monthly as this council member Dolan, and I'd like to put forth there that

[53:18] do the attend, but they are very committed. They are contribute to our efforts, and they are always,

[53:25] always there, always understanding what we do, and we are very happy to have them as part of our

[53:30] board. Provide City Manager with Studies and Reports. So since this contract started last year,

[53:35] we have not commissioned any studies or reports, but I will say that before this contract,

[53:41] during COVID, I did commissioned two studies. One was a COVID recovery study, and one was a study

[53:46] to gauge interest in commercial air service

[53:49] to Lake Havison City, which I provide,

[53:50] which I both of which I provided it to the city.

[53:55] Excuse me.

[53:58] Part of our contract says for us to seek grant funds.

[54:00] And as you can tell this year,

[54:01] we've been very, very successful with that.

[54:03] I wrote two grant proposals this year,

[54:05] one for a visit Arizona initiative, Marketing Grant,

[54:09] which allowed us to spend $228,750

[54:11] on our emerging markets campaign,

[54:14] and allowed us to get the word out farther out

[54:17] from the tri-state area about the wonderful city

[54:19] that we have here in the incredible destination that we have.

[54:22] I also wrote a very successful grant

[54:24] for the Visitor Arizona Initiative Partnership grant,

[54:27] which gives us $125,000 to begin funding

[54:31] holidays in Havasu.

[54:33] At the same time right now, we are waiting on a on-word

[54:36] for our Visitor Arizona Initiative outdoor recreation grant

[54:40] in which we are applying to improve some community space

[54:43] for first Fridays.

[54:46] Under, perform project assigned by City Council, we have not, unless you consider this, we have not had any projects assigned to us, but we are always happy, and I always, I will always appear in front of the City Council to assist on any tourism.

[55:00] My update, as I understood, was received very, very favorably by council.

[55:04] In terms of fiscal responsibility, while I have proposed deficit budgets the last two years, we

[55:09] have managed to make the necessary cuts to ensure a balanced budget before the funding

[55:14] cap and our current contract. I always kept our expenditures, at least $100,000,

[55:19] below budget, why to save for larger projects or to do something innovative that we might not

[55:25] see now, but might see a couple years in the future. And obviously to save for an economic

[55:29] economic downturn.

[55:35] Discrimination, the contract does not allow us to discriminate, and so Gole-Cavis who believes

[55:41] in an inclusivity and promotes a community that is welcome to all, regardless of race,

[55:46] age, faith, politics, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, physical or neurodiversity

[55:53] challenge, language or culture.

[55:55] Additionally, I do want the council to know that every member of Gole-Cavis who is

[55:59] certified autism professional, travel professional, and that our visitor center and our offices,

[56:06] our certified autism center. So those that are traveling that are on the spectrum or their caregivers,

[56:13] we are able to recognize an issue and we can help. To that end, we do have a quiet space and

[56:18] nervous visitor center to assist with those kinds of problems. I always, as you guys know, I always

[56:27] talk about this as being storytellers and we'd love to talk about the positive aspects of

[56:31] Lake Havana City, of which there are so many.

[56:34] So I thought again with this, we love our city and it shows, and this, to me, is one of

[56:39] my favorite examples of our amazing collaboration with our city.

[56:42] We are very proud of this award, an even prouder of the massive collaboration that it took

[56:46] to make this happen.

[56:47] The city, community, individuals, businesses, and organizations, and the bureau that made

[56:53] this celebration legendary and this award so meaningful.

[56:55] So, it's not us, it's the community, it's the city that makes this community great and makes this award so much a part of our hearts.

[57:06] So, City Council, that is my presentation and I'm of course I'm happy to take as many questions as you have.

[57:12] Thank you, Mr. Concannon.

[57:14] So, I'll bring up to questions or comments from members of the Council.

[57:16] I'll be there, Mr. Concannon.

[57:23] Mr. Mayor.

[57:26] I have some information in front of me, but the entire council has had this before, so I had the Lake Havasu Convention of Missouri Bureau statement financial from May 31st, 2022, that's the most recent one, secret city manager.

[57:41] I believe that's the last financial statement that was put out.

[57:44] So I'm looking at your budget and I saw that that you want to well-rounded budget.

[57:51] I guess that's some questions that I have are I'm looking at what I love your revenue as your

[57:57] expenses and I just want you to explain to me because I maybe don't understand it so I'm looking

[58:02] under assets and there's over two million dollars in assets and most of that's at Horizon's

[58:11] you as being, food holes being, they're all money markets and I'm just wondering if we're

[58:18] providing to you $1.6 million, why there's still $2 over $2 million that's in these

[58:26] assets that's to me I'm assuming that's cash, why that's there and why that's not being

[58:33] used and why we're continually going to provide you at $1.7 million. I'm sorry, $1.6 million.

[58:38] Well, we have had those reserves for quite some time.

[58:42] I don't believe we added any significant amounts since this contract, because we are working

[58:48] right down to the letter out of the budget right now.

[58:54] Most of that reserve came before I came in where I am not the kind of person I worked for

[59:01] a higher education where if you didn't spend it, you didn't get it back.

[59:05] One of the reasons why I like to keep reserves is because there are times and I do think

[59:11] that the coronavirus pandemic helped us out with this.

[59:17] But I do pay attention to economic trends and it was my understanding that we were going

[59:22] to get something along the lines of 2008 and economic downturn.

[59:26] In those periods of time, during an economic downturn the last thing our organization needs

[59:31] to do is spend less to bring people into town.

[59:33] So, that's something that we have as a backup in case our fortunes go down.

[59:41] Also, we had been saving for a project that we wanted to work on with the city in the downtown

[59:49] catalyst, which didn't come to fruition a couple of years ago, I was

[1:00:00] We're marking money for that particular project. Having said that, we do have that much money and reserves. So any if the council would ever like to come to our board meetings and discuss ways that we might capitalize on the use of that money, I would certainly welcome that.

[1:00:16] I just had a follow up question, because I remember a couple of years ago we had 1.6 million.

[1:00:24] And so now we're up to two and it's starting, it made me uncomfortable when I first saw it the very first

[1:00:31] meeting I went to I'm like well 1.6 million dollars sit there and now it's going to two just a couple

[1:00:38] years later when that much money taxpayer money that we designate to go to work for the city of

[1:00:44] Lake Havasu to promote our city is just sitting there and it makes me uncomfortable okay I understand saving

[1:00:53] I understand having some reserves, I think that our last contract gave you a little bit

[1:00:59] of certainty because now it's not tied to a floating number, now you know what you're

[1:01:04] getting kind of doing.

[1:01:05] And it's in the contract and that'll show up no matter what.

[1:01:10] So just take that from my overall feeling of that money and how much is sitting there.

[1:01:18] That being said, working towards a project, there's something creative we can do to

[1:01:23] to push our city forward with that money.

[1:01:25] I would love to see it, and I'd love to team up with you on it.

[1:01:27] Well, and just to respond to that,

[1:01:30] Council Member Lynn and Moses,

[1:01:33] I have not my staff.

[1:01:35] I won't put them into it.

[1:01:36] I have begun creating a list in May of possible things

[1:01:43] that we might do.

[1:01:44] One of our previous, the head of Chairman of my board,

[1:01:49] a couple years ago, Mr. Don Callahan.

[1:01:51] we all know them. That is he was concerned as you are about the amount of reserves we have.

[1:01:57] And so when he was my board share we started talking about ways that we might do things in

[1:02:03] the city maybe even brick and mortar type of things that can help the city make the city a better

[1:02:09] place for residents but also for tourists. When Don left I've just been doing it on my own. So

[1:02:16] to having said that if you guys have any projects and we talked about this in the

[1:02:20] It's part of my contract. I would love for any of you. If you have a great idea, it might be, I know that my staff member Regan Ross Robertson has talked about the downtown Main Street Association about an arch.

[1:02:34] So please bring these things to me. I do want to keep maintain reserves in our, as any good organizations should do, but I'm also open to anything that will make this place a better place to live and a better place to visit.

[1:02:49] If I just give a little bit of a follow-up to that point of question that will turn back

[1:02:53] over to Councilumberland, is that don't forget that this council is the one that adopted

[1:02:58] this current budget.

[1:02:59] We know that those assets were increasing and so we really negotiated the contract so it wasn't

[1:03:04] a percentage of attacks or restaurant bar attacks and we knew it was a certain amount of what

[1:03:10] it would cost to do the program of work, so that is why we have this contract in place today

[1:03:15] I was to address some of those concerns that we were having at the times.

[1:03:18] Those are the actions that we took.

[1:03:20] Comments from Berlin?

[1:03:22] I guess maybe our city manager can answer this.

[1:03:26] That's saying that this is a direction.

[1:03:28] I'm looking at, I'm just have a question.

[1:03:32] If we did cut ties with the CVB and with the contract that over $2 million, where does

[1:03:40] echo?

[1:03:42] Mayor, Comments from Berlin.

[1:03:43] We have a professional services agreement, like Havasus City, the city, the city, and the city.

[1:03:50] We have a professional service agreement with Col Lake Havasus.

[1:03:52] They had their own separate board, their own separate accounting,

[1:03:57] and their own separate accountability, accountability measures, and so forth that are there.

[1:04:01] Any funds that Col Lake Havasus has within their budget within their accounts.

[1:04:07] The use of those funds is decided upon by their board.

[1:04:15] So what you're saying is if just say tonight just just I'm just trying to paint a picture here that we said

[1:04:21] We're gonna cut the contract in 120 days if they still have that 2 million dollars, which is taxpayer money

[1:04:28] And I'm gonna give them credit for I looked at their grants that they received about 361,000 dollars at grants

[1:04:34] So I'll give them credit for that

[1:04:36] But that money then which is taxpayer money

[1:04:39] They don't, they can take it, they can do whatever they want after those 120 years.

[1:04:44] That's correct.

[1:04:45] So the contract that was negotiated by Council just about a year ago, again, as Council member,

[1:04:52] Moses indicated that we looked at a static number, rather than a percentage of the

[1:04:57] the bed tax and the food and beverage tax.

[1:05:00] Turn for the professional services that call, they have as delivers. The city has other contracts

[1:05:05] in place with entities like Haven or the partnership for economic development and other entities

[1:05:12] remain society. We have contracts in place for based on services with all those agreements

[1:05:19] with all those contracts that are all managed by their own separate entity with their

[1:05:23] board and once payment is made to that entity, those funds are then managed by the respective

[1:05:31] boards.

[1:05:32] Can you remind us when their next installment is?

[1:05:36] Payment is made for the contract on a monthly basis.

[1:05:42] Mr. Mayor.

[1:05:43] Yeah.

[1:05:43] Just to bring a little perspective to that too, we're not outsourcing to a private company that those

[1:05:48] funds are there.

[1:05:49] I mean, it is a community event.

[1:05:50] a community, it is a organization that was formed for this specific purpose.

[1:05:55] I guess that'd be my question would be, hypothetically, what happened if we ended our

[1:05:58] contact with Gold Lake Havasu?

[1:06:00] I'm assuming Gold Lake Havasu would then shut down because it would have no other use in

[1:06:04] Lake Havasu.

[1:06:05] It's ran, it has no shareholders, it's ran by the board which are all community members.

[1:06:10] So, you know, I would see in that situation that the money would then go back to the community

[1:06:14] or because it's not, if we were paying to XYZ Corporation to run our marketing company

[1:06:20] and they had all this money, we wouldn't be discussing their assets, we would just be,

[1:06:24] this is what we pay them every year to do this service. The fact that they have this money

[1:06:27] and it's set up the way it is, there is the transparency we can see where it is and I do

[1:06:32] like the fact that we are saving for a rainy day because I think once we get to that point,

[1:06:36] you know if we were dealing with a private company they could just, okay we're done and we're only

[1:06:40] spending the money you're giving us. So in a way this is definitely having to sue money because like

[1:06:44] I said I'm not a voting member on the board but I know the community members out there and the community,

[1:06:49] They are the ones that get to make that decision.

[1:06:52] So it is a community, correct me if I'm wrong, it's a community.

[1:06:55] It was put the CBB was put together for the specific purpose and if we no longer negotiate

[1:07:00] with them, then it would cease to exist because it's not like it's a marketing company that's

[1:07:04] going to go to Phoenix and market for UMA or Tucson.

[1:07:08] It's a community marketing organization that was set up for that.

[1:07:12] So it still is community money.

[1:07:13] So, City of Andrew Newton and Vice Mayor Jim Gullin.

[1:07:20] It's my understanding in the contract that if you guys choose to disengage from Gullin

[1:07:26] Cavassu that our assets refer to the city.

[1:07:30] That's my understanding, but if I'm wrong,

[1:07:34] the city attorney can certainly tell me differently.

[1:07:37] Can we have clear communication?

[1:07:38] We just got two different answers there.

[1:07:41] Yes, you know, it's the contract is all in front of each one of us, so

[1:07:49] As far as the dollars are voting back, there's no language that I'm

[1:07:55] I'm aware of in the contract that would do just that

[1:08:00] Mayor

[1:08:01] Yes, Councilmember Campbell. I did speak with the board previously and they said it wasn't based on the contract

[1:08:06] It was based on the bylaws of the board that stated that I did not see that with my own eyes

[1:08:12] but I do remember that. Mr. King Cannon, do you remember that conversation as well? It's kind of

[1:08:17] part of the bylaws of the board not so much the contract with you. If you can help you with this.

[1:08:22] Sorry, I was reading something when you started. Okay, basically I was at a board meeting or spoke

[1:08:27] with the board at one time about the same concern a couple years ago and they told me that it was under the bylaws.

[1:08:35] It was an under-consumer encounter actually correct and then they I think it was one of our previous board members as citizens of the community that also had the same concern and wanted

[1:08:46] whatever balance of that money to go back into like have a few city reserves for the full purpose of tourism

[1:08:56] Again, I don't have it all right in front of me, but that's what I recall you're absolutely right. It's not in the contract with the city

[1:09:01] but it is in our organizational bylaws that if the city disengages or or I shouldn't put it that way

[1:09:08] if the organization has no no reason to exist any longer then the money set up and given to the

[1:09:14] organization by the city and its physical assets go back to the city. It's not in the contract again

[1:09:21] let's clarify it's in the bylaw my organizational bylaws.

[1:09:26] That's your question councilman. Is there any way to

[1:09:29] with that in the contract?

[1:09:31] In the future, contract certainly that can be

[1:09:33] direction that we give.

[1:09:34] Be more accurate.

[1:09:35] Are we doing discussion today?

[1:09:38] We are discussing yes.

[1:09:40] So discussion can give possible direction.

[1:09:42] It says reading here.

[1:09:44] So we could give that possible direction tonight.

[1:09:46] We could, yes.

[1:09:48] I would like to see that.

[1:09:54] Any other questions?

[1:10:00] Any questions or comments for Mr. Concannon or Mr. Concannon or Mr. Concannon? Mayor.

[1:10:04] Yeah, Council Member Campbell.

[1:10:04] I do.

[1:10:07] So let's see.

[1:10:08] I'm going to read off this so that I actually get across all everybody's voice that I've heard.

[1:10:16] So, good evening, Mr. Concannon.

[1:10:18] Good to see you.

[1:10:18] This is my opinion, but also the opinion of many people that I've spoken to in this community.

[1:10:23] Now, I would like to play a recording really quickly.

[1:10:26] It's a very quick one that's hopefully all technical, stuff will work.

[1:11:05] So you state that it's not up to the tourism bureau to make moral decisions and I'm not

[1:11:10] here to do this, but I'm going to just repeat what I've heard and how I want our relationship

[1:11:15] to move forward, but this is what I'm hoping will happen. Maybe it is time for the CVB to start

[1:11:21] making moral decisions for the sake of the city and how our tax dollars are spent, marketing

[1:11:27] to the highest, two of the highest crime states, encouraging large events, which leaves our city

[1:11:34] a mess, overtaking our services from fire, police, and parks, and leaving the citizens of

[1:11:41] Lake Havasucity to clean up after the party like you meet at crowd. We as a city need to unite

[1:11:47] more than ever, and go in on to live radio speaking out highly, about highly controversial topics,

[1:11:54] I think calling the citizens of Lake Cavusy City

[1:11:57] bigots is not what the taxpayers pay for.

[1:12:01] I believe it's time for us to look at a healthier way

[1:12:04] to remote our city.

[1:12:05] Over capacity is not what we need.

[1:12:08] More like questionable events,

[1:12:10] not what we want, what we need is a tourism,

[1:12:14] which educates and promotes a healthy community

[1:12:19] where visitors are welcome to come

[1:12:21] without turning our city upside down.

[1:12:24] I was a big advocate of yours, Mr. Kagan, and you know it.

[1:12:28] I believe excessive tourism is what our city wanted and needed.

[1:12:33] Congratulations, massive growth.

[1:12:36] But now it's time to look at a new direction.

[1:12:39] Will the CVB consider a new marketing strategy

[1:12:42] that will take these items into consideration?

[1:12:46] The citizens of Lake Habasu would like to hear

[1:12:48] from you in 30 days to see what you can come up with

[1:12:51] including proper protocol for adding events to your site.

[1:12:55] You've already said some things about your app

[1:12:57] and how we can be better tourists

[1:13:01] and how we can be better at our short-term rental.

[1:13:06] We need your help.

[1:13:07] We don't want to get rid of you by all means.

[1:13:10] But I'm asking the citizens are here asking,

[1:13:13] what are we doing, what are we paying,

[1:13:16] what's going on with our community?

[1:13:18] And I was really upset today when I heard

[1:13:20] that the Constitutional event had come to you guys quite a while ago and also dropped off

[1:13:27] flyers and yet their events not on the page.

[1:13:32] I was disappointed to hear that Gini Kent, who has been working with you for quite a long

[1:13:38] time, about her tax, some seminar, was not on your event and was told that we don't promote

[1:13:47] I thought you were the convention and visitors bureau and I know for one thing whenever I go onto your events, and I want to show up because I've used your website for decades.

[1:13:57] When I show up and I push the button, I get a bunch of options of hotels that I can, you know, reserve and then that brings revenues to us.

[1:14:07] So, I'm not here to throw you under the bus or call the CVB horrible people.

[1:14:13] I just want to be the voice of this community that says, let's rain it back.

[1:14:16] Let's take another look at it and can we move forward?

[1:14:26] We do have an event protocol that is listed explicitly on our website.

[1:14:31] Jeannie Canches tax conferences, not a public event, and so we didn't list it on our website.

[1:14:37] I will say though that we spent $1,300 on Swagford for her event and so we did do that much.

[1:14:45] I'll be and I apologize for that for the Constitution week.

[1:14:48] I only found out about it from a flyer today in my office.

[1:14:52] I was not aware that it came to our office but I'm more than happy to put it on the calendar.

[1:14:58] I think it's very important and we're certainly more important.

[1:15:00] Even if it's a private convention, people are still looking for hotels, restaurants, whichever. I would think that would be a great idea.

[1:15:08] I also know that we have a freedom bar, because I think this weekend as well.

[1:15:15] And I'm seeing it on go, like, have a suit. I mean, lakehavesu.com websites. They've been all up to date on that.

[1:15:21] And I think that I would like to see a better protocol like if somebody comes into your office and does XYZ do they get a flyer that says sorry this is the reason why we don't do your events on ours or you know because I know that people were confused they said why are we promoting and I didn't want to use the word a drag show and February but we're having conventional constitution week next week these are things that I would like to kind of unite us a little bit better.

[1:15:51] Sure. Okay. Absolutely. Thank you. Yeah, Mr. Confane. Can you answer that question? How do you

[1:15:56] advance skills? Yes. Thank you. I'm protocol. I did print it out and bring it with me.

[1:16:09] And Mr. Good fellow. You're in the audience. Did you reach out to the CVV?

[1:16:15] Yes. How long ago? Okay. Where? Mr. Good fellow. Not on my phone. Okay.

[1:16:19] The public hearing. Okay. Sorry. I just wanted to bring that. Yeah. That he has been reaching out. Okay.

[1:16:26] These are some of the questions we think about when an event come.

[1:16:31] Will visitors be interested in attending?

[1:16:32] I remember we love this community and we want to do things for the residents,

[1:16:36] but our website is visitor-facing, so we have to think about tourists and visitors.

[1:16:40] So will visitors be interested in attending?

[1:16:42] Is it of interest to a wide audience?

[1:16:44] Is it open to the public?

[1:16:46] To answer your question about the private event like the tax conference,

[1:16:50] tax conferences like that always send information about where to stay,

[1:16:53] They can still look to see where to stay on our website, but they won't find any information

[1:16:58] about the task conference itself.

[1:16:59] Does it take place within Lake Habesu City, obviously?

[1:17:03] Does it possess unique cultural significance, I.E. art, history, health, sports, civic,

[1:17:08] et cetera?

[1:17:10] Is it non-political?

[1:17:11] Is it a one-time event?

[1:17:13] Because if it's a weekly monthly or a occurring over a long time, we add it to our local

[1:17:23] community events page, because if we listed every single community event, like don't want to,

[1:17:30] I'm not disregarding your barbecue, but all these massive events, then I don't think

[1:17:35] their calendar events would be as useful as it could be. So what we do is we do the events

[1:17:40] based on this criteria on our tourism facing website, and then we partner with the River Seeing

[1:17:45] Calendar of Events for the more community-oriented events, and we have a link to that on our page.

[1:17:50] Thank you.

[1:17:54] Yeah, there are any questions, other questions or comments to remember the council for Mr.

[1:17:57] Concantor and Mr. Concantor?

[1:17:58] Can I ask you one quick question?

[1:17:59] I'm really.

[1:18:00] You're agreement with Riversea, do they get paid to do that or that just a survey?

[1:18:04] No, it's just a survey.

[1:18:05] Just a survey.

[1:18:05] And then I have kind of, I'm going to change this just a little bit and I might need the help

[1:18:10] of the chiefs on this.

[1:18:13] So I think you're here, I talked to some people down at the chamber today and I think you're

[1:18:20] doing a great job at promoting, you know, where we can see that with our revenues and our businesses

[1:18:25] and our restaurants and our hotels, we can see that.

[1:18:27] I think the question that I have for one of the chiefs, and I know chief doils in here.

[1:18:33] Maybe chief ploughs can answer this question.

[1:18:35] Is what do our, what does that look like on our public safety when these,

[1:18:40] events of these busy weekends and these holidays?

[1:18:43] Like, what does that look at the extra cost to put our guys and gals all down there?

[1:18:48] Can you answer that?

[1:18:50] Mayor, Council Berlin, sure I'd love to answer that if I can, because there are the

[1:18:54] terms of like tourism in Lake Havana City, right?

[1:18:57] We're very reliant as a tourism community.

[1:19:01] We have small businesses and that rely on tourism in Lake Havana City, and we rely on tourism

[1:19:09] dollars in terms of questions to pay for services like police fire and throughout the organization.

[1:19:13] But there's a cost that that's associated with tourism, and so that there's a strain that

[1:19:21] gets placed on fire and on police in the public safety agencies, not just for the special

[1:19:29] events that occur throughout the year, but for our holiday weekends.

[1:19:34] So we have overtime that is a direct cost associated with that for fire and for police.

[1:19:41] We're talking about just in those two departments, so we're talking a million dollars.

[1:19:45] In addition to that, we're talking about parks and parks maintenance and the ability

[1:19:49] to maintain our parks from free from trash and, of course, all the maintenance that to the

[1:20:02] So we have some folks that come to, well, they can have a way, then legal system, strain on the jails that it can occur there as well. So there is a cost associated with all of that in terms of just special events and major holidays. Now, let's also have a conversation about short-term rentals in the Lake Havasu City and the response that's needed to be done.

[1:20:29] from Jill and Ed been and been services and to be able to track and as we bring an ordinance

[1:20:37] as city attorney, Gary, we bring an ordinance before the council here in the next several weeks

[1:20:43] for short-term rentals. We're going to be creating a permit process so we need the local

[1:20:48] short-term rentals to be permitted. That's not cheap. That's a cost associated with that.

[1:20:53] We got no relief from the state legislature this year in terms of our ability to enforce some

[1:20:59] the rules that are provided by the conversations with the city manager in Paradise Valley and

[1:21:04] with the Scottsdale. And they're talking about having a five-person team out of their

[1:21:10] police department that's solely going to be used for. It's a little task force that's

[1:21:14] totally going to be used to enforce the registration and the permit process for church or rentals.

[1:21:20] If they're on permitted, the only way we know how to take a look at that situation and

[1:21:25] enforce that they're not permitted is to show up on Friday at five o'clock and see

[1:21:29] anybody is there. And that's what there's a task force that's being created for that.

[1:21:34] There's a strain on the city's resources and again there's a benefit in terms of the

[1:21:38] tourism and the and the questions that are needed and the benefits to the to the

[1:21:42] to the residents we get fantastic special events in Lake Havasu City and that's a wonderful

[1:21:46] wonderful thing. But yeah there's obviously two sides and appreciate the opportunity to talk

[1:21:51] about the side that the team at Lake Habits of City and the staff that does a wonderful job

[1:21:57] and making sure that downtown Main Street is looks pretty spectacular after a really busy

[1:22:03] desert storm of that. Go down to the channel and roll every park after a very busy and a

[1:22:07] world they weekend. It looks pretty dang good, doesn't it? And that's so that's thanks to our team

[1:22:13] and parks and public works and throughout the police and fire and throughout the organization.

[1:22:20] I think that's just why it's really hard for me to digest this over $2 million that they

[1:22:25] have an account that if to put that back into those services that are needed during those

[1:22:32] times.

[1:22:33] That's just why it's hard for me to see when that money sitting there and then we're over

[1:22:36] here is a city having to pay that offset on that.

[1:22:40] That was kind of what this whole wrap around a lot of this for questioning what our contract

[1:22:44] is looking at the financials.

[1:22:46] I just want to make that very clear that I'm watching that in and it just concerns me.

[1:22:51] Thank you.

[1:22:52] Thank you.

[1:22:53] It cuts me really.

[1:22:56] Thank you, Ms. Mayor.

[1:22:58] It's almost like we could take away words from when we did the contracts and bring

[1:23:03] on forward to tonight.

[1:23:05] First off to Mr. Con Cannon and his staff.

[1:23:07] I think you guys do a great job on promoting.

[1:23:10] Thank you.

[1:23:10] I've always thought that I've always thought that we were paying too much for it.

[1:23:15] And that was because we were given a certain percentage.

[1:23:19] So one of the things that I had pushed the city manager for was a flat contract.

[1:23:24] And part of that concern was the fact that you're reserves in my opinion at that time we're getting too high.

[1:23:29] They were about 1.5, 1.6 million at the time.

[1:23:33] So I wanted a flat contract so that any of those excess funds would then come back to the city to be used for items such as the police, the fire, the parks,

[1:23:43] to solve the stuff I brought up with that meeting.

[1:23:47] And we did that.

[1:23:48] But now what we're seeing is that the reserves are still going up.

[1:23:51] So when it comes time to negotiate the contract,

[1:23:53] I think that's something that we'll have to look at.

[1:23:56] Maybe with that money, we are working on

[1:23:59] to downtown Calis Project.

[1:24:00] Maybe you could partner up with, we need additional funds for that.

[1:24:05] I have a question for you.

[1:24:06] And that is if the citizens in the city are unhappy

[1:24:10] with an issue or do they call you and tell you that they don't like this or they don't like that?

[1:24:17] I've received quite a bit of feedback in the last month or so.

[1:24:21] In the last month or so, just because I don't want to talk about the one item because we're here talking about the contract, not the...

[1:24:29] But beyond that, Council Member Baleen, yes, if residents do reach out to us, they may stop in, they may call, they may usually email.

[1:24:37] But they do let us know if there's something we're doing that we should be doing better or if there's something we're doing that they think we're doing very good

[1:24:44] And do you ever work with the event promoter to try to make it an advertisement that that would be?

[1:24:52] I don't want to say user friendly, but more open to the people we do reserve the right to make change

[1:25:02] We're not to make changes because it's their thing but to suggest and to coach. Let's put it that way. Okay.

[1:25:09] And if you look at on your contract, I don't know if you have it with you or not, but on your contract on section four.

[1:25:16] I'll bring up that account right here for just a quick second.

[1:25:19] And I think this is something that you could use when you're speaking with people.

[1:25:26] and they're talking about their contracts under number four, a, one,

[1:25:32] promote like have a Citi, our community, our vision, and our goals.

[1:25:37] So one of the things that we have heard with a particular incident,

[1:25:42] or I shouldn't say incident, but something that is going to be going on here in the city,

[1:25:47] if they would have just taken off under the age of 18, nobody would have a complaint.

[1:25:53] Um, that's what I've heard as people wanted to say is, I don't care what you do is, and

[1:25:58] at all, we just want the children to go there.

[1:26:00] For the promoter, that might be something that they could do working with, go like have a

[1:26:05] sue, um, and I'm not saying just the event, because that's not really what we're talking

[1:26:08] about, but you could use your contract, um, with that verbiage right there about our vision

[1:26:13] and our goals to ask them to change those types of things.

[1:26:17] So, not only are our tours happy, not only are our ben promoters happy, but our citizens are happy.

[1:26:25] And as a council, that's what we're looking at is we want our citizens to feel that we are

[1:26:30] answering to their goals and what their visions are.

[1:26:33] Yes, sir, Council Member Layne. What I will do as regards to your comment is I have an executive

[1:26:38] committee meeting next week and a board of directors meeting the week following that and I will

[1:26:43] this concern to them as well. If we, I would, is there some place or some website that I

[1:26:49] could look up and find out, what do we have community goals and community visions that

[1:26:54] does out there that I can, so I don't have a free website.

[1:26:58] Our city website has our vision goal. I'll print that out for every one of my staff members.

[1:27:03] And I do think you guys are doing a good job. I never, I never thought otherwise, I just thought

[1:27:09] we could pay you a little bit less to do the same job. Right on.

[1:27:13] Thank you. Thank you.

[1:27:15] Thank you.

[1:27:17] Are there any other questions?

[1:27:19] Some could say the same about you, David.

[1:27:22] How much is less than zero?

[1:27:27] On your executive board, is the ex officio council member included in that?

[1:27:32] Who's all on?

[1:27:34] The executive committee is myself.

[1:27:37] I'm the Secretary, and then the Board Chairman, the Vice Chair, and the second Vice Chair.

[1:27:45] I personally believe that it might be a good idea to have the council liaison on there with you as well.

[1:27:53] Mr. Mayor, would be okay if he told us the names of those people?

[1:27:56] Oh, absolutely.

[1:27:57] The Chairman on my board currently is the General Manager of the Nautical Beachfront Resort.

[1:28:03] That's Alfredo Anguyano.

[1:28:05] The vice chair is Heather Petticheski, who works for London Bridge Resort and Arizona State

[1:28:10] Lottery.

[1:28:11] And the second vice chair is Jen Wetton, who wants grape seed rains.

[1:28:22] Are there any other questions or comments before we open the public hearing?

[1:28:28] All right.

[1:28:28] Thank you, Mr. Kennedy.

[1:28:29] Thank you.

[1:28:30] If you could stay close, because we have a lot of questions that are going to come up.

[1:28:33] We'll now go ahead and open the public hearing.

[1:28:35] You don't have to sign out for the public hearing, but we did have some citizens do so.

[1:28:38] So, we'll start with them first.

[1:28:39] Please remember, same rules apply before.

[1:28:41] we can have a two-way conversation, which is fantastic. There is a light indicator box next

[1:28:45] to Miss Williams and just remember that you'll be addressing the Council directly. The first

[1:28:49] speaker will be Karen Vanerjack.

[1:29:02] Karen Vanerjack, 45-year tax payer of Lake Havasu City.

[1:29:06] When funds are provided from our city to an organization that represents Lake Havasu City,

[1:29:12] there needs to be accountability. I'm not sure of the basis of Terrence Kantana,

[1:29:17] and how he's hired, but I know if I was going to put someone in charge of tourism

[1:29:21] and drawing people to our city to live.

[1:29:23] I wouldn't go to New York City,

[1:29:24] and I know he's not from New York City.

[1:29:26] It's just an example, okay.

[1:29:27] The values and lifestyles of people in New York

[1:29:30] is fast, pace, and wouldn't miss well,

[1:29:33] with the layback friendly city vibe of Lake Havasu.

[1:29:36] Yet, Terence seems to spend most of his time

[1:29:39] advertising in places like San Francisco and Chicago.

[1:29:44] Does he even understand who we are as a community?

[1:29:47] There's nothing wrong with alternate lifestyles,

[1:29:49] but we're not advertising Kansas City or Atlanta.

[1:29:53] They offer diversity, but values are more in line with Lake Havasu.

[1:29:57] Then there's the decision to welcome the pride tour.

[1:30:00] Which includes the draft show, encouraging minors to attend. This is where accountability comes in. Perhaps a city council should be overseeing how Mr. Comcana is running his, this bureau, and with our city taxes being used. He has a board, which I understand includes Vice Mayor Dolan. That might be the perfect way to have that accountability. Terrence could report his plans to go Lake Avesu board and Vice Mayor could be the liaison to the city.

[1:30:28] That's just an idea. In the meantime, we're now faced with a drag show posed by 64% of the citizens,

[1:30:36] as reported by the survey reported in the Lake Havasu Harald. This show, degrading women,

[1:30:42] with men in clown makeup and dress as cheap prostitutes, is bad enough in itself,

[1:30:47] but encouraging minors to attend is unconscionable. Ask yourself this, not why do they invite children,

[1:30:55] but why is the presence of children so important to these men dressed as cheap sloppy women?

[1:31:02] The triangular Pito symbol is connected to their website, which is a signal to men looking for

[1:31:09] like-minded men, attracted children. These children to attend need to be with an adult,

[1:31:14] but what adult doesn't mean it's our parents? They're also allowed, so where are these children

[1:31:20] going to sit, laps, laps of who? They're encouraged to have small bills, so the miners can

[1:31:26] touch these men to place money on their bodies. I don't need to attend one of these shows

[1:31:31] to know what they are like. They're all over the web and I watch the children who look

[1:31:37] bewildered, awkward, and don't really want to participate with what they are seeing. Let's talk

[1:31:42] this out. Find a solution. At the very least, we need this to be removed from the the Go Lake

[1:31:48] have a website and the calendar that Councilwoman Lynn had suggested, as soon as possible.

[1:31:54] And for the safety reasons and to avoid the city possibly being sued and cut for

[1:31:59] bit of child being harmed, make this an adult only venue.

[1:32:04] So I really don't need to communicate with you all, but I'm hoping I'm right Jim Mr.

[1:32:13] vice mayor that you are on the board and is it you know I thought someone made that suggestion

[1:32:19] I forgot it was someone made it was it you Councilman Lane someone made this a gesture

[1:32:24] I'm having a liaison and I'm going yay that was my suggestion. Oh thank you. Yes

[1:32:30] Councilman made Moses good suggestion so I'm just putting out some ideas

[1:32:34] I'm just trying to work with you and these are my suggestions yeah thank you there's some of the

[1:32:40] Some of the target items are, some of the target cities, Karen, are done with AOT.

[1:32:47] So there's an office of tourism, has target cities based on where air traffic comes from,

[1:32:51] and you might be surprised to know the Naperville, which is a suburb of Chicago, was one

[1:32:55] of the largest markets for Mr. McCollick and his flights to get people to purchase land

[1:32:59] here back in the 70s.

[1:33:01] So we have to be careful when we're picking what cities and who and what they are, because

[1:33:05] we have co-ops with airs and officers and that brings some additional dollars into what

[1:33:10] is marking efforts look like. So I know sometimes it can be confusing, but there are

[1:33:13] marketing dollars and in terms maybe you can speak to the dollars that are

[1:33:16] spent in theapolis and some of the other areas as well that reach some of those

[1:33:21] outlaying, outlaying, community space, non-seasonality of our market.

[1:33:24] Sure, and another thing that we look at when we when we choose where to advertise,

[1:33:28] so we're always advertising Phoenix and Las Vegas and Southern California because those

[1:33:31] are our largest drive markets, so always be our largest markets. But when we got a

[1:33:35] chance to get some additional funds from Arizona Office of Tourism, what we

[1:33:39] put together was, we have a hierarchy of where attention is paid to us, geographically.

[1:33:48] And so we always find Arizona a southern Nevada, southern California, as the top three.

[1:33:55] But always bubbling under four, five, and six, somewhere in there, were the two communities

[1:33:59] of Northern Calate San Francisco and Chicago.

[1:34:02] And so, as long as we got these extra funds, and I wrote a proposal for this specifically,

[1:34:08] and emerging markets. We wanted to see if we could appeal to those particular markets.

[1:34:16] Now, I will say, I've been in the hospitality business for over 20 years. You never

[1:34:20] usually see this kind of response to advertising, but in our visitor center, we have had

[1:34:27] a huge influx of people from the San Francisco Bay area who have said that they have come

[1:34:31] to this city to experience it for the first time because they saw those ads.

[1:34:35] So yeah, and it's been several years since I've read the visitor study, but when I read it I recall that our biggest competitive market is like Tahoe and the citizens

[1:34:45] Go to like Tahoe are from the San Francisco Bay area, so it would make sense that we would want to invest dollars in something on those lines, especially in the partnership with the O.T. that uses, you know,

[1:34:55] additions and others to pick in and determine those markets so thank you for

[1:34:59] like hard for getting

[1:35:00] Speaker for this item, is Cindy Johnson.

[1:35:17] I wanted to first tell you all, it's been very educational tonight.

[1:35:22] And I appreciate all of your time spent on this. So we in the community can know what's going on.

[1:35:30] And we do appreciate your thoughts, your comments, your good intentions, undoing what's best for the community. We really do. Thank you.

[1:35:39] Um, I'm a little bit concerned about Mr. Concannon's remarks on the radio.

[1:35:48] This was really not good. Not good to do that.

[1:35:54] I would hope that that wouldn't happen anymore because it has something to do.

[1:36:00] City, you do we are, I'm sorry, I thought that this was about Mr. Concannon's.

[1:36:03] But you're the opportunity for the public hearing, because the council, so you certainly

[1:36:08] Okay, don't have time. That's fine. I thought since we were talking with him.

[1:36:13] You know, yeah, you'll be able to respond as well, but okay. My mistake. No problem. I'm sorry.

[1:36:20] I do want to say a little bit about everyone, the diversity and no discrimination about the

[1:36:28] the pride tour. And I want to maybe educate you a little bit on what the gay community is saying about these.

[1:36:39] And this is something

[1:36:43] we aware of. I don't know if you have heard of them before. It's an organization that just started in June of this year and it's already up to 300,000 members of the gay community.

[1:36:59] This is what it says on their website.

[1:37:02] I wanted to share this with you so that you know,

[1:37:06] our concern has nothing to do with our gay community.

[1:37:09] They have very accepted like all the rest of our community.

[1:37:14] They have earned, well, I don't know if that's the right word.

[1:37:17] They've worked hard to get acceptance,

[1:37:21] and they have achieved that at this point.

[1:37:24] And they're just as much of our community as everybody else.

[1:37:27] Gaze against groomers is a coalition of gay people who oppose the recent trend of indoctrinating, sexualizing, and medicalizing children under the guise of LGBT QIA+.

[1:37:46] Our community that once preached love and acceptance of others has been hijacked by radical

[1:37:54] activists who are now pushing extreme concepts on society, specifically targeting children

[1:38:02] and recent years.

[1:38:04] The overwhelming majority of gay people are against what the community has transformed into,

[1:38:12] and we do not accept the political movement pushing their agenda in our name.

[1:38:19] Gaze against groomers directly opposes the sexualization and indoctrination of children.

[1:38:25] This includes drag queen story hours, drag shows involving children,

[1:38:31] and transitioning and medicalization of minors, and gender theory being taught in the classrooms.

[1:38:38] The activists backed by school boards, government, woke media, and corporations have been speaking on our behalf for too long.

[1:38:52] When fighting for equality, our goal was to successfully integrate ourselves into society.

[1:38:58] But now these radicals aim to restructure it entirely in order to accommodate a fringe minority,

[1:39:05] as well as seek to indoctrinate children into their ideology.

[1:39:11] We're saying no.

[1:39:13] There are millions of gaze within the community

[1:39:17] that what nothing to do with this alphabet religion

[1:39:20] and join the fight with parents

[1:39:22] and concern people everywhere to protect children.

[1:39:27] Who also aim to return sanity

[1:39:30] and reclaim the community we once called our own.

[1:39:34] The gay community is not a monolith.

[1:39:37] Those pushing the agenda do not represent or speak for us all.

[1:39:43] Nor do we want to be associated with them in any way.

[1:39:48] What we are witnessing is mass scale child abuse,

[1:39:52] being perpetrated on an entire generation.

[1:39:55] And we will no longer sit by and watch it happen.

[1:40:00] It is going to take those of us from within the community to finally put an end to the insanity, and that's exactly what we're going to do.

[1:40:11] So this is the gay community speaking out about what the pride tours have changed into. Maybe they once weren't these things.

[1:40:22] Shoot.

[1:40:24] All right.

[1:40:26] Yeah.

[1:40:26] You wrap it up your thought, sir.

[1:40:29] Just a few more if you wrap it up.

[1:40:31] Thank you very much.

[1:40:33] Just thank you.

[1:40:33] I appreciate that.

[1:40:35] So we're not fighting against the gay community.

[1:40:38] We're fighting with the gay community to make this right.

[1:40:44] And maybe nothing will change this year.

[1:40:48] But hopefully by next year,

[1:40:51] their voices will be heard. Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you.

[1:40:59] All right, the next speaker is

[1:41:01] Pastor Fred Bennett.

[1:41:11] The good thing is not doing speeches tonight. We're just doing a two-way

[1:41:14] conversation. So yeah, if you want to share your comments. Yeah. Well, as a pioneer of this town,

[1:41:23] like some of us, you know, to kids walk across the bridge

[1:41:27] day, it opened up.

[1:41:29] We've been on the several committees.

[1:41:32] We've been on the committee.

[1:41:33] It started to serve as a mirror in the town.

[1:41:36] It's 77, I was in the woods building.

[1:41:40] And we did it to promote have a suit, you know, good light.

[1:41:45] Safe place for people to bring their families,

[1:41:47] raise their kids, feel safe on the streets.

[1:41:54] And the police department are going

[1:41:57] great job breaking some of the drugs and stuff going on in town, community ran us together

[1:42:03] and reported anything and it goes on it's not right, which is the right thing to do that's

[1:42:08] supporting each other.

[1:42:12] We've seen many acts of heroes and over the years,

[1:42:17] but I know it's

[1:42:18] coming in here. There's some spots in the carpet with her.

[1:42:24] Now unless you got the right person

[1:42:26] that knows what they're doing to clean up those spots, they're growl and it's just like sin in

[1:42:31] city. You don't take a stand and rebel against it, not so much rebel, but speak out against

[1:42:39] it, to keep that disease as a spot from spreading, you'll all over take us. Let's not let

[1:42:47] that happen. There's a pastor, chaplain,

[1:42:54] and a member of this community. I'm out to protect.

[1:42:58] Now, I got great grand children here,

[1:43:03] and I take up a school in the morning.

[1:43:06] So, thank you.

[1:43:09] Yeah.

[1:43:09] Mr. Bennett, if you could just clarify what disease are you thinking spreading?

[1:43:13] Pardon?

[1:43:13] What disease?

[1:43:15] It would be spread out might be misleading.

[1:43:17] Well, let's say it's a response over here.

[1:43:19] I got the carpet piece, but I think you're trying to make an analogy to disease.

[1:43:23] Well, it's a disease.

[1:43:26] It can be treated in a family.

[1:43:28] And they can grow, being good people, or they can foster it, and the people that kids grow up,

[1:43:36] hateful, and spread it, that's where you're crying come from.

[1:43:42] Okay. Okay. Yeah, thank you for the clarification.

[1:43:45] All right, so the next speaker is Diane Klassen, a classifier, which I believe she stepped out,

[1:43:52] I don't know if anyone gave her.

[1:43:55] Okay, so we are now open to anyone that likes to address the council on this subject.

[1:44:01] Just please make your way to the podium, stage your name for the record.

[1:44:11] Don wisdom.

[1:44:13] My mind is burning right now.

[1:44:18] Would we not be

[1:44:22] enlightened to send brochures, to federal parts and state parts?

[1:44:32] For example, we would send when the people check into a national park or a state park they would get a brochure about Lake Abbasoo, Bryce Canyon, for example.

[1:44:47] The card would be about hiking and Lake Abbasoo. Here's the point.

[1:44:54] We would give them a credit card for $50. It can't be cashed.

[1:45:00] We would give the merchant back 50 percent, $5 dollars. We have $2 million to spend on customers.

[1:45:10] These are the kind of people I would like to see come to a council. There are campers,

[1:45:16] there are water skiers, there are ballooners, all kinds of fun things instead of just sending a note

[1:45:22] to Chicago or to San Francisco, forget them.

[1:45:29] Let's send it to the people who really want to come to have us

[1:45:32] to and have fun and get a little money back.

[1:45:35] If they don't use the card, it's not here.

[1:45:39] Thank you.

[1:45:40] Thank you, Mr. Wisdom.

[1:45:43] Yes, so there's a CVB.

[1:45:45] It does have a rack program that's all long

[1:45:47] all of the inter-sates within this area.

[1:45:49] And it does generate a lot of traffic.

[1:45:50] So, the comments that I'm giving feedback on are just based on the comments I'm hearing from you.

[1:45:56] It's a very large marketing plan that's available on there.

[1:45:59] Is available on the website?

[1:46:00] I know it's provided to the council in the court of the meetings, but

[1:46:03] If anyone wants to come to our office or board me, we'll certainly provide that for you.

[1:46:13] By the way, they are having a car show from Riverbound.

[1:46:16] I don't know if you know about that.

[1:46:18] they went and got special rates for the people who's coming to the water river

[1:46:24] bound and see where the money is sitting. I thought that was a great idea. But

[1:46:31] the idea that they actually went to a park, they get a brochure about Lake

[1:46:36] House, have some nice beautiful pictures. And they get a credit card. Oh, but they

[1:46:43] to use it, they can only use it five times. But we will get a report back. It's not a website.

[1:46:53] Not everybody goes to a website. I got a bad story about websites. But they would actually

[1:46:58] get something in their hand, they'd get a credit card in their hand, and then we could

[1:47:03] track exactly where they're coming from and the money we spent on them.

[1:47:08] Yeah. Thank you.

[1:47:12] We'll also address the considering calls of the public.

[1:47:15] Yeah, just make a way to the podium.

[1:47:16] Stage an name for the record.

[1:47:17] Jan Boyd.

[1:47:19] City Council, Mr.

[1:47:20] Concannon.

[1:47:22] Do you feel that you work for the citizens of Lake

[1:47:24] Havasu City?

[1:47:25] I am not a big hit, Mr. Concannon.

[1:47:28] As you have a call, citizens.

[1:47:31] As a concern, citizen is my duty to bring to attention

[1:47:35] to the citizens I go.

[1:47:37] That Go Lake Habasu has involved itself with the Asi Pride Tour, a drag queen show that feels it needs to enlighten the residents and make us tolerable for our greater good.

[1:47:49] I have correspondences between Go Lake Habasu and the drag queen show stating it is for the citizens, where's the tourism in that.

[1:47:58] The majority of the cities, citizens requested that the drag show be removed on the Go Lake

[1:48:06] Habasu event calendar. Furthermore, we request that the children not attend. A male

[1:48:12] dance show, the men next door, will be here October 6 and 26 at bars such as B.J. and Jeremy's

[1:48:20] Duke box. It states 21 and older, those are male dance shows coming to our city, two bars, 21 and

[1:48:27] older this year, they're coming. Why is it that when men dances men, it's 21 and older,

[1:48:34] and it's at bars, where when men dress as women, it's children, it's children welcome.

[1:48:42] A just 6, 8, 10, 12, 14. Those children should not be attending the events such as a drag queen show.

[1:48:51] It seems like there's an agenda.

[1:48:54] If the majority protest in the city, we are called bigots.

[1:48:59] Out of your own mouth, Mr. Concannon on live radio.

[1:49:03] You represent Lake Havasu City.

[1:49:05] Please explain how a drag show promotes tourism.

[1:49:09] Lake Havasu is known for its many outdoor events, boating, hiking, gofishing, golfing,

[1:49:15] good restaurants.

[1:49:16] We see red flags when tourism money is directed towards failing states with high crime rates such as Chicago and San Francisco.

[1:49:26] We, the people, are concerned that Go Lake Havasu is taking our city in a morally defunct direction.

[1:49:34] We are now aware of that direction that Go Lake Havasu is heading and we want a new direction with complete transparency.

[1:49:43] We, the people, want to say in how our taxpayer dollars are used for the betterment of our city.

[1:49:49] We want to see in-house items, things like cleaning the parks, maintaining the police.

[1:50:00] And fire departments during tourist weeks, bridging the legs, picking up tourist trash, we don't want

[1:50:07] to see the money sit in investment accounts. Nor do we approve of big buildings being built for

[1:50:13] a small amount of staff. If the money is not used to better our city and keep it morally correct

[1:50:21] with moral correct events, keep it clean, keep it law enforcement here. We want the money return

[1:50:27] to the people, or we want their budget lowered, we want transparency, we want the direction

[1:50:33] of the Convention Visitors Bureau, go like Habisou change and re-evaluated.

[1:50:39] We're seeing what's happening.

[1:50:40] We want the update on the taxes for 2021, we want to see quarterly postings, okay?

[1:50:47] I could not find their taxes for 2021 listed.

[1:50:52] Like here, where we meet a citizens, we get involved with the city, you hear us, we need

[1:50:58] to do that with GoLake Havasu as citizens.

[1:51:02] The voters need to reevaluate the taxpayer dollar to CBB and how it is managed.

[1:51:09] You work for us.

[1:51:10] If there's no accountability, it's not acceptable.

[1:51:14] Right here, since I have a little more time, I do have the email where it says, to

[1:51:20] go Lake Habasu. Hello, thank you so much for reaching out and for promoting performing here.

[1:51:26] We are excited for this event. The event is now on live calendar. Thank you so much again,

[1:51:32] and yet I think in the past they denied being in contact such as this.

[1:51:40] Then I have another one

[1:51:42] that says, of course, abundance between the pride event.

[1:51:49] It says, they created a blog, long after we left.

[1:51:54] Like Habasu, the community, and some of its leaders

[1:51:57] are trying to keep the spirit of pride alive in an area

[1:52:00] that highly needs it.

[1:52:02] They created a blog to celebrate Pride Month.

[1:52:06] Well, it may not seem all that important.

[1:52:08] This is a big deal for the community.

[1:52:11] Please be sure to look for it.

[1:52:15] And then they listed Go Lake Havasus website.

[1:52:20] So their denial is they can't deny that anymore.

[1:52:23] All right, thank you.

[1:52:24] Yeah, thank you.

[1:52:27] And many of the comments that you made,

[1:52:29] Ms. Boyd, is why we would re-integrate the contract last year.

[1:52:33] So for those who sit at the transparency of the money,

[1:52:35] lowering the budget, those types of things to bring certainty

[1:52:38] and transparency to the contract, the business side of it, is why that contract was being

[1:52:42] negotiated last year.

[1:52:43] Mayor Shee, can I also add that some of the things we've done, we provide programs for

[1:52:49] our community.

[1:52:50] We fund first Fridays, we fund the farmers market, we fund the community youth market,

[1:52:55] Regan Ross Robertson, who's here in this administers, all of these events.

[1:52:59] We join forces with Lake Havaswos, Pitalia Association, and put together $60,000 and got donations

[1:53:06] from business and individuals, back during COVID to form Havasu Health's Hospitality, which

[1:53:11] fed 8535 of our furloughed hospitality employees and their family members.

[1:53:18] We worked with partnership for economic development during COVID to develop the hashtag

[1:53:22] open together program, which was a promotional program to let restaurants and their guests

[1:53:28] understand what can be expected of each other post COVID.

[1:53:32] So we do very much, to the extent that we can and can afford it, provide services for the community.

[1:53:39] Thank you.

[1:53:46] Tom Goodfellow, 8th and 4th Shlon Drive.

[1:53:50] First one thing to get clear, I want to make sure it was mentioned that the barbecue on Saturday

[1:53:58] has nothing to do with Constitution Week.

[1:54:02] So I thought I heard some people thinking that it was affiliated and it was not.

[1:54:09] To address a Councilman Campbell's questions or concerns, this is how I remember the events

[1:54:21] take place and just take at any emotion out of it.

[1:54:26] This is just the facts as I remember them.

[1:54:29] So in March or April, I have all the, I probably have the emails, I approach Go Lake Habasu, and they, the representative was fine.

[1:54:52] She directed me to the town events manager and this is all some of this is all new to me because I'm fairly new to

[1:55:00] And gave me names to help. And so that exchange happened for a while, because at the time we were thinking about it, possibly I'm in a parade, but it's kind of warm and September.

[1:55:12] And that was always a concern. So we ditched that idea and still conversing with her, and then probably,

[1:55:21] I want to say, may June, maybe I had a myself, my wife,

[1:55:28] and two other volunteers had a meeting in the room at the go like have a suit with this

[1:55:35] representative and we just discussed things fine everything was fine she told us you know what

[1:55:42] what to do so there's nothing going on there and she said well when you get to that point where you

[1:55:48] know you're ready to squeeze the trigger or whatever bring us the information and we'll help you

[1:55:57] we'll do anything we can to help you. So if memory serves the week before Labor Day weekend,

[1:56:06] my wife and I dropped off at 11 by 17 schedule and a tabletop schedule,

[1:56:14] gave it to the lady. We went there to hopefully meet the person that we've been working with. She

[1:56:18] wasn't there. So I met the receptionist. I handed, we handed and heard those two documents.

[1:56:25] I think a business car, because I always, if I can't get a hold of it, I always try to leave a business card.

[1:56:30] We have business cards for constitution week, and the reply was, I'll have a call you.

[1:56:39] So, that's kind of where it was left.

[1:56:43] And I, at that point, was pretty busy just trying to promote the event and spending all the time in businesses.

[1:56:52] So the next question you're going to ask me is probably, well, did you ever call her back the following week?

[1:57:00] The answer to that is no, I didn't even think of it because I was quite honestly, I'm just trying to promote the event.

[1:57:09] And we were just super busy. There was four of us out just trying to promote things.

[1:57:14] So that is my recollection of what happened.

[1:57:19] Okay. Thank you.

[1:57:30] Dale Ray, long time resident of Lake Havasu.

[1:57:36] A couple of questions. One is our statement first.

[1:57:39] We actually need go Lake Havasu.

[1:57:42] We need a group that will promote tourism.

[1:57:46] And so I think that should be clear.

[1:57:51] What isn't clear, and Councilman Lynn began to address it, and that is who benefits.

[1:58:01] At the end of if there was a disillusionment of the dissolving of the organization who benefits.

[1:58:11] And that absolutely must be clear.

[1:58:14] I've worked with organizations for my lifetime and you'd be surprised what you'll end up in

[1:58:21] court over.

[1:58:23] And so that the City Manager, the City Attorney, you cannot just go on right now, we have

[1:58:32] an integral group.

[1:58:35] I've lived here long enough, there is, I don't know, the fact of it, but supposedly someone

[1:58:41] left with funds that were to a built a second bridge over our years and it involved city council.

[1:58:51] And so even right now, every one of us can be of utmost integrity and yet let something go for a few years and run into someone who wasn't sitting here tonight.

[1:59:04] So please, please clarify that.

[1:59:07] The other thing is, who admits the entries on the calendar

[1:59:12] and apparently we don't have a review board beyond Go Lake

[1:59:18] Habasu, that's where the city council really should come

[1:59:22] into play through the years.

[1:59:25] I've used Go Lake Habasu and I've also done events with the city

[1:59:31] and the city has a procedure.

[1:59:33] an extensive procedure that we follow that seeks the approval of whether we can do it or whether

[1:59:42] we don't do it. And so I'm asking that there be a clarity on someone from the City Council.

[2:00:00] So, sitting on that board so that we know what is going on. The generic doesn't work, and so we need to be very specific.

[2:00:13] to that, I would like to ask the mayor and the city council to work with the city attorney

[2:00:21] and that we would come up with an ordinance that would specify then that certain events

[2:00:31] that would be the miners would be protected and would not go to such events.

[2:00:37] And I realize I may be asking a lot especially for this year,

[2:00:41] But I believe that in ordinance, we have ordinances that prevent

[2:00:45] in decent exposure.

[2:00:48] Those things are enforced every holiday here in Lake Abbasu.

[2:00:53] Our judges and our courts are busy.

[2:00:56] Certainly, we can be reasonable and come up with some kind of an ordinance that will

[2:01:01] do exactly what council and woman Campbell spoke and what the city wants.

[2:01:10] And that is protect the minors.

[2:01:12] If the city approves and on the calendar goes these events,

[2:01:18] consenting adults, that's not the problem with the citizenry.

[2:01:22] I would, I certainly have my standards,

[2:01:26] but other people have their own, but when it comes to children,

[2:01:30] we are speaking up and speaking loud and clear.

[2:01:34] You have a responsibility, I have a responsibility,

[2:01:36] We all do, and we're speaking very strongly, protect the children from such events.

[2:01:42] Yeah.

[2:01:43] Thank you.

[2:01:45] Today.

[2:01:47] So what you described, Pastor Ray, on the event application process that you do, is when

[2:01:53] you're having an event on city property.

[2:01:55] This is on private property.

[2:01:56] This is not permitted by the city in any respect.

[2:01:59] But just clarification of what the separation of those two things are.

[2:02:03] Yes.

[2:02:03] Mayor and City Council, Ted Boyd, in regards to the drag show, I'll keep hearing from

[2:02:09] this particular group of entertainer that it's all about the art.

[2:02:14] If it's all about the art, why is it so important if kids are?

[2:02:19] That's my last statement on that, because pre-woa covered by previous speakers.

[2:02:23] Also in regards to their budget, after hearing what Councilwoman Lenset about the coffers

[2:02:31] that this particular group has around the city, I immediately came to mind to me, that

[2:02:36] want to belong to us, that's our money. Why is it sitting in their coffers making interest for them?

[2:02:44] I'd like to put forward to the board that they consider for their next budget.

[2:02:48] That they budget, they pay them what they are budgeted for, where the line item that says

[2:02:55] whatever is not used does not go into their coffers, it's returned to the city. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:03:01] All right,

[2:03:07] Greg Logan, eight months and I've been sitting here today and I have two items

[2:03:12] calm food for thought for everybody. If any organization runs out city property in any way,

[2:03:20] they should be on go Lake Hathison. If it's a proper venue, if the city approves,

[2:03:27] a venue coming in and being on city property, it should go into the, on the agenda.

[2:03:34] Second of all, and this probably most important, on the advertising, all the way, where

[2:03:41] are we advertising?

[2:03:42] It's so cold, sanctuary cities, I mean, are we asking these sanctuary cities to bring

[2:03:48] their values, you know, like, have a sip, just food for thought?

[2:03:53] Why are we doing that?

[2:03:55] Let's stoop it, pardon my language, yes, thank you.

[2:04:09] My name is Dan Koblosh, I'm the interim pastor at Havasu Alliance Church.

[2:04:16] We are instructed not to appropriate other cultures for fear of insulting them.

[2:04:22] Sports teams change their names, faces are taken off, butter boxes, instant rice,

[2:04:29] even pancake syrup.

[2:04:33] And imagine a very idea of someone, some outside agency, bringing in a black face

[2:04:39] menstrual show to Lake Havasat.

[2:04:44] It would be met instantly with derision and

[2:04:47] censure. Yet an outside organization is bringing a drag show to Lake Havasat.

[2:04:57] We fear to offend anyone.

[2:05:01] But this is fine. No, it's better than that. It should be lovable and commendable to perform in what I call women face.

[2:05:13] A woman named Alice Smith tweeted just two weeks ago, not only to drag queens present women in a gender stereotypical way, but as horrors too.

[2:05:25] could they inso women more if they tried?

[2:05:33] Why are we trying to defile women? These men

[2:05:36] dressed as women cast genuine women in the most hateful manner men and children encouraged

[2:05:43] to hand them dollar bills as they perform or in many cities read stories as ridiculous

[2:05:50] of fake women to children in a public library.

[2:05:55] Some say, well, what about the channel?

[2:05:58] Should children be exposed to that?

[2:06:00] I say the debauchery and nationally famous sexual abandon

[2:06:04] of Lake Kavosu City, especially in the channel

[2:06:07] on the Sandbar and in Copper Canyon,

[2:06:10] ultimately being expressed with MTV

[2:06:12] having a multiple episode back and out on TV

[2:06:17] promoting the immorality of Lake Kavosu City.

[2:06:20] has greatly lessened in recent years.

[2:06:24] Even during spring break, Lake Havasu is no longer

[2:06:27] an icon of immorality.

[2:06:30] We are clawing our way back to respectability.

[2:06:34] Meanwhile, San Francisco and Chicago

[2:06:36] have become the very definition of failed government

[2:06:39] and failed humanity.

[2:06:41] Without of control homelessness, drug abuse,

[2:06:44] shoplifting, auto-breakings, human feces in the streets,

[2:06:48] death, murder, and debatory, demeaning the once wonderful cities to all the world.

[2:06:56] Yet of all the cities in America, we are seeking people from those cities to party in

[2:07:03] Lake Havasu.

[2:07:06] Come and see our drag show.

[2:07:08] Where is out of control as you are?

[2:07:12] Do we really think our quality of life here in Lake Havasu will be lifted up by emulating

[2:07:17] San Francisco. We don't have to ask where this all leads. We already know. It's in the news right now.

[2:07:25] Amber Parker, an English teacher at the Franklin High School in El Paso, Texas, was caught on video

[2:07:32] commanding her students to refer to pedophiles as MAPs or minor attracted persons.

[2:07:40] and even scolded one of her students not to judge people just because they want to have sex with a five-year-old.

[2:07:49] Is this city council in favor of this pedophilia? Is this your direction for our city? Why are children being targeted?

[2:07:59] Is our intent to groom and recruit in personable children into this lifestyle?

[2:08:05] You may say, this is not up to the city council, it's some faceless bureaucracy doing this.

[2:08:11] I asked, did we, the people of Lake Havasu City elect those contractors to reign over us,

[2:08:18] to call us bigots for resisting their private agenda?

[2:08:23] Who else do we appeal to, except you, are elected representatives?

[2:08:30] You are inviting disaster upon us.

[2:08:33] Many of us moved the tranquility and safety of Lake Abbas who precisely to escape the

[2:08:39] standard of debauchery.

[2:08:41] City after City has failed morally.

[2:08:44] Please resist the temptation to emulate these failed cities.

[2:08:50] Thank you.

[2:08:55] Thank

[2:08:59] you.

[2:09:00] Good evening.

[2:09:00] It's me.

[2:09:02] Bonnie Toy.

[2:09:05] Okay, I really wish I could address the people behind me to stop calling women who

[2:09:09] are not wearing appropriate clothing, not women because whether women are wearing appropriate

[2:09:14] clothing in their mind, they're still women and they deserve respect just for the record

[2:09:20] on that part because but I also don't like the word rumor and I really dislike, you know, I

[2:09:28] never thought about a drag queen show as appropriating my gender. That kind of actually does hurt

[2:09:36] little bit, the whole thought of that. Anyway, actually the reason I wanted to come up was to discuss

[2:09:41] the Facebook page and the advertising of GoLick Havasu. I don't understand why they are limiting.

[2:09:51] They're advertising to Chicago and San Francisco or wherever they're limited to.

[2:10:00] In case you didn't know this Facebook is free and it reaches over a billion people in any city in the world and all you need to do is you as a person. Go to your Facebook page, go to any city and say, hey, how you doing today. I live in like have a city. Look at this. This is what's going on this week in our city again. You know where some really good places to do that?

[2:10:28] other city new stations. So like, I don't say, Washington, D.C., Channel, whatever, go to their

[2:10:37] page, say, well, don't look like you guys are having fun. You've come here and have some

[2:10:42] fun kayaking on our lake. You know, there are limited social media ways that really doesn't

[2:10:51] cost $2 million to advertise. And also, I would like to say that I am greatly disappointed

[2:10:58] to find out that they have $2 million and we're threatening telling you during the tax

[2:11:08] thing that, oh my gosh, if you change your mind on your tax thing, then you were going to

[2:11:16] be taking money from the fire department. Probably should have been taking money from

[2:11:21] because it was only going to cost you under a million dollars and they have two million

[2:11:26] that they said they have to spare right now.

[2:11:29] Thanks.

[2:11:30] Yeah.

[2:11:30] Thank you for your comments.

[2:11:37] Morgan Raiden, city resident here for eight and a half years.

[2:11:40] First thing I want to address is interesting about all of this talk about the gay pride

[2:11:46] in the show.

[2:11:48] Did anybody read the article in Saturday's Sunday's paper about Moisi Idaho had the exact same

[2:11:55] problem, and their city council stood up and said, no, no children can go.

[2:12:01] Maybe that's something you ought to think about.

[2:12:03] But main thing I wanted to say when I got up here first is I agree with Cameron and Michelle

[2:12:09] and Nancy over there, and I think David actually said it.

[2:12:13] I think we're overpaying this organization to go Lake Hathus at right now.

[2:12:17] If they have $2 million in reserve and it's built up over the 1.6 million they had before

[2:12:25] for, we're given a way too much money.

[2:12:28] What I would recommend we do next time,

[2:12:31] and as soon as possible,

[2:12:33] cut their budget in half.

[2:12:35] Give that other half to our police, our fire,

[2:12:38] and our parks department, so they can help maintain

[2:12:42] the problems that they are addressing

[2:12:45] with that become up because of the major weekends

[2:12:49] and so forth we have.

[2:12:50] It's just a suggestion I would recommend.

[2:12:53] And last thing I would like to address is number one, I heard the statement that over

[2:12:58] 64% of the people in town are against the drag queen show and we're all bigots.

[2:13:04] Well, I'm sorry, I'm not a bigot, I have a grand daughter that is lesbian and I love her

[2:13:10] dearly.

[2:13:11] In the ambulance service that I worked at, I worked with a lot of gay people, they are fantastic

[2:13:16] people.

[2:13:17] I never had a problem with them, I'm not a bigot.

[2:13:19] I would like to hear an apology for being called a bigot on the radio from the person that runs

[2:13:25] Go Lake Hepsis.

[2:13:26] Thank you.

[2:13:27] Thank you.

[2:13:35] Good evening Council Mayor.

[2:13:36] First of all, I'd like to apologize to Kelly for all the four years that I've requested

[2:13:41] in the last month.

[2:13:43] I've had about 10 of them in almost 1,500 pages of four years of stuff that the City Council

[2:13:49] has done with and to this community.

[2:13:52] One of the things I know I said here two or three times.

[2:13:55] Several people on this council asked for a copy of expenditures from go lay Cavalry for months.

[2:14:02] Did you ever get them?

[2:14:04] Did you ever get a button?

[2:14:06] Any of that?

[2:14:08] Yeah, we received it, uh, quarterly.

[2:14:10] You do receive them for almost two months in a row.

[2:14:13] You guys request them.

[2:14:14] You haven't received it.

[2:14:15] Did you receive it or just receive it or did everybody receive it?

[2:14:19] Yeah, per the contract goes to Jess and then Jess Ford stouts the entire council.

[2:14:22] Okay, did you do that, Jess?

[2:14:24] Okay.

[2:14:24] So, their statement for asking for a budget was incorrect as what you're telling me.

[2:14:32] In order to do the things that we had asked for them was for a constant budget of accountability.

[2:14:38] We don't want to get back to interagency.

[2:14:41] You know, or that landed, because you guys didn't, not just specifically you, but City Council,

[2:14:46] did not make them accountable for once and dime.

[2:14:49] And our community suffered greatly for that.

[2:14:52] It's up to you to keep a string on those issues.

[2:15:00] We have with our city council. Just to use it on any of the board, just go Lake Havasu, or the visitor's

[2:15:10] bureau.

[2:15:11] Mr. Mayor, Ms. Lyonsa, yes, for the contract.

[2:15:14] Should have been. On, do you sit on the board?

[2:15:18] Should have been. With Lake Havasu, or?

[2:15:21] Per the contract, that was the, that was a, executed last year. At that time when the agreement was

[2:15:26] to place me on the board as the voice.

[2:15:29] Okay. And you also wrote the contract. Is that not a conflict of interest?

[2:15:36] How would that be a conflict of interest?

[2:15:37] You're sitting on a voting board and you're sitting there as a city manager to write a contract for the city.

[2:15:43] I'm just asking, is that a conflict of interest?

[2:15:45] So the process that's in place in terms of my role as a city manager is working very closely with the council as a whole and council as individuals.

[2:15:53] working with the executive team on the staff side and identifying the key components of an agreement

[2:16:00] that to make the best sense for Lake Havasu City. We then take those thoughts and those concerns

[2:16:05] and those ideas on paper and then start the negotiations with the other entity which is

[2:16:10] called like Havasu. I occurred with the President of the Board of the Time and with Mr.

[2:16:15] Conquenit and that's a process that exists for country negotiations.

[2:16:19] Okay, so you were not a member of the board of GoLake Havasu or the visitors were all?

[2:16:24] For the contract that was executed in the May of or excuse me, March of last year,

[2:16:31] I am on the GoLake Havasu board.

[2:16:33] And you're a voting member of that board.

[2:16:36] Yeah, it is a conflict of entrance. Yes, so no, the, I'm a contract representative prior to

[2:16:42] the city manager position being the voting member. That was, that was the direction of the council

[2:16:46] let me have an ex officio member of the council that access the liaison.

[2:16:50] Okay, who was the lazy on for that?

[2:16:53] Currently is vice-meragual.

[2:16:55] Okay, and during this period of time, I think you even asked for a budget report from them

[2:16:59] about two months ago.

[2:17:01] Is that true?

[2:17:03] I don't remember asking a few months ago.

[2:17:04] I know we did the budget presentations and we did the contract.

[2:17:08] I asked for some information.

[2:17:09] And did you get that?

[2:17:10] I'd have to check when we officially get up.

[2:17:12] Yeah, we got it quarterly.

[2:17:13] Okay, but you didn't get it.

[2:17:15] I'd have to look to see when I got what, but I mean I'm happy with it.

[2:17:18] Okay, yeah.

[2:17:19] Miss Lines, where are you going with it?

[2:17:20] So yeah.

[2:17:21] What we're going with it is either you are getting the budget or you're not.

[2:17:26] And we're not getting the budget.

[2:17:28] These guys are in breach of contract.

[2:17:30] He's in breach of contract because he didn't make him do it.

[2:17:34] We received it.

[2:17:36] We received the budget immediately.

[2:17:37] The next day from Mr. Kagan directly via email.

[2:17:41] And then we get it quarterly updates.

[2:17:43] Okay, because I, what I had requested was in a foyer from, of course, just knows about it.

[2:17:51] Go Lake Havasu in the Visitors Bureau.

[2:17:54] And with everything in that guy, it was 582 pages, which I went through today.

[2:17:59] And there's so much conflict of interest in there.

[2:18:02] Our people need to be represented by people who are going to actually do their job.

[2:18:08] Mr. Mayor, if I can to kind of clarify,

[2:18:12] My role on the goal that you have is to represent the city's interest.

[2:18:18] And I want to make a perfectly clear.

[2:18:19] My role on there is represent the city's interest.

[2:18:23] Thank you.

[2:18:24] Hi.

[2:18:24] Good evening.

[2:18:25] Patricia Shanski.

[2:18:27] First of all, the Constitutional event.

[2:18:29] I wanted to ask, would there be Democrats there too?

[2:18:31] I looked on the website and it just seems like it's mostly Republican?

[2:18:35] It is going to be?

[2:18:36] It's not partisan.

[2:18:37] Okay.

[2:18:37] Yeah, because really all I saw was Republican side and so I was kind of like wondering, you know, make sure it would be like history.

[2:18:44] Sir, folks in the gallery, this is a conversation we're having with Council and the folks at the board and we have to be respectful when folks come through.

[2:18:51] So it is an on-partisan event as reported by Mr. Good fellow who's put on the event.

[2:18:55] Okay, and then back to the drag thing of course, which is why I'm here.

[2:19:00] I hear people making statements and you know, none of them are facts.

[2:19:05] I've been to the drag shows here, I'm affiliated with them, you know, there was no kids there last year and they were over 16.

[2:19:13] These are ones that are, you know, maybe, you know, have the thoughts of being gay, no one's encouraging them.

[2:19:18] No one's going to be sitting on anybody's lap, there's no little kids there.

[2:19:22] The jokes there, less than techs are. Now, everybody wants to make their comments behind me, but I offered to show you, you know,

[2:19:31] My video from last year, I am willing to answer any questions that anyone has, and no one's

[2:19:38] approached me.

[2:19:39] I think they just want to come in here and complain and make it about, you know, they're

[2:19:43] trying to say like, it's not a gay issue, but you're basically saying, all gay people,

[2:19:47] or all drag people, or pedophiles.

[2:19:52] No, no, no, it's a conversation with Kassel and the, it's not like, I kind of feel like

[2:19:57] they're saying it's not a gay issue, but you're, you're grouping these.

[2:20:00] People together in saying, oh, because they're drag queens, they're pedophiles. And that's not a fact. And so there is no little kids there. And it's just like if a person, you're the parent, you're in charge of your child. And you go to see grandpa or Uncle Steve. You are responsible for that kid's life. You know, they're most kids get sexually abused by a family member. Or I mean Catholic churches,

[2:20:29] just voice scouts, you know, there's whole thing.

[2:20:32] These people are there with their kid.

[2:20:34] And again, there's no little kids.

[2:20:36] They're pushing the agenda.

[2:20:37] I heard someone say there's a pedo logo

[2:20:41] that's on their website.

[2:20:43] That's none of this is true.

[2:20:45] And as far as, like, it as far as,

[2:20:48] yeah, so we're gonna have to close the public hearing

[2:20:50] if we can't have a conversation with the council

[2:20:54] and the speaker.

[2:20:55] So as far as it being different than a strip club,

[2:20:57] It's like, these people who are in the strip club,

[2:20:59] they're naked, they have a little g string on.

[2:21:03] These people that are on the direct shows,

[2:21:04] they have layers and layers and layers of clothing.

[2:21:07] It's, there aren't, there's no wear,

[2:21:10] and there's no, and you don't put the money

[2:21:12] in their purse or anything, you throw it up on the stage.

[2:21:16] I just wish that you guys would educate yourself

[2:21:18] before you came in and made judgments.

[2:21:21] I mean, I'll buy your ticket, and you can come.

[2:21:23] I went last year, and it was fun.

[2:21:25] It was just a lot of fun.

[2:21:26] no one's pushing his to come. It just says on there that they can't come because maybe you have a child who maybe needs acceptance.

[2:21:33] Maybe needs to see that, you know, it's okay to be different. It's okay. It's not just drag queens. It's pride people who are singing and entertaining.

[2:21:42] It's just, no one's making anybody go. I'm not, I don't have to go to the bingo events that are going on.

[2:21:48] And they don't have to come to my drag things. It's a private event.

[2:21:52] It's just they're they're trying to say it's a whole kid issue. It's not a kid issue. I know these people. It's not a kid issue. I've been there. It's not a

[2:22:01] A pit of file issue. It's it's just I just see all these things that they're making it about kids because they don't want to say it's about days

[2:22:07] And it's really it it's very clear to the rest of us that it's about days and they can say whatever they want to about it

[2:22:14] It is about case and it's it's it's really sad to see that people aren't accepting

[2:22:18] of others and these people aren't hurting anybody and the one that she brought up where it

[2:22:24] said gaze against groomers. Yeah, there's 300,000 of them. I'm against groomers too. But

[2:22:30] there's 300,000 gay people who are against groomers. Maybe they're in the saw of Dreadshow.

[2:22:35] I mean, it's like, why are you saying that the people are in the Dreadshow aren't, you

[2:22:38] know, ARPS? It's just so hypocritical back and forth all this stuff. I'm going to stop coming

[2:22:46] here, because I feel like I've offered as much as I can offer. I've offered to educate these people,

[2:22:54] help them understand, they can come and talk to me, whatever they want. I mean, I appreciate if

[2:23:00] they talked to me when I was over there and that when I'm up here talking to you, that would be nice.

[2:23:05] But what else can I do? But no one wants to listen, they're all closed-minded and they only see things

[2:23:11] own way and I guarantee you that you have gay people in your families and you know you just

[2:23:17] you aren't aware of it because maybe they're afraid to come out to you because you are the

[2:23:21] way you are.

[2:23:24] Yeah, thank you.

[2:23:28] So a lot of assumptions there, I hate to want to dress all of them,

[2:23:32] but number one, this meeting could have been probably cut in half and we just took the kids out of it.

[2:23:38] Has that been brought to their attention parents to take the no kids allowed out on the

[2:23:51] I've heard that council member Latte has asked for that.

[2:23:56] If that is actually the case, I would ask for council member Latte or somebody to come

[2:24:00] to our board of directors and make that request formally.

[2:24:03] The reason for that is we have never taken an event off our website as far as I know in

[2:24:08] history of this organization.

[2:24:12] So in care of any possible legal challenge,

[2:24:16] I won't do it, but I will do it at the direction of my board.

[2:24:19] So if anyone feels strongly about that,

[2:24:21] come to our board meeting on September 28th

[2:24:23] and make that request of my board.

[2:24:28] Thank you.

[2:24:28] And then the other thing, the woman back here earlier

[2:24:30] was talking about the gaze against groomers.

[2:24:33] And so once again, the woman that was just up here

[2:24:35] they're working in skates, we're not against skates at all, it's about the kids, and the

[2:24:42] gays against groomers, what she read was on their website and they put that on Facebook

[2:24:48] and Twitter and Facebook banned them and blocked them immediately. Because of that, it's

[2:24:57] in the library, in the drag queens' shows.

[2:25:00] Addiment that we're not bigots, we're not against gaze, we're against having kids exposed to this time of type of stuff. That's all pretty simple.

[2:25:12] Thank you.

[2:25:20] My name is Deborah Fedock and I am not a bigot and I'm not against gay people, but I have looked at their website thoroughly and I'm not going to put anything on here that isn't on their website.

[2:25:38] They say that they are an adult theme of show, they say that they are serving alcohol,

[2:25:50] they give the names of their performers, Justin Deeper Love, dirty acts, Kamala Slate, Charlie Angel,

[2:26:03] and Sandra X to see. Do those sound family friendly to you?

[2:26:11] So this family with friendly

[2:26:12] website is coming here and they can bring children if they have a parent. They don't say

[2:26:21] those are going to check to make sure that they're a parent. They just say that they have

[2:26:26] to have a parent. That person bringing them may not be their parent.

[2:26:32] Let's see what else do I have here.

[2:26:35] They do allow tipping, are the children allowed to give the tips.

[2:26:40] We don't know that, but it does allow tipping.

[2:26:44] And when you look at their flyer online, you see the gay pride, flag, colors, not the

[2:26:50] flag, but the colors, but you also see the pedophile flag colors, and you might not even

[2:26:57] know that there is a pedophile flag, but there is, I will have to destroy my phone when

[2:27:02] done with this conversation because I've got way more information than I ever

[2:27:07] wonder how I'm here.

[2:27:10] They also have on a mobile device when you're scrolling

[2:27:14] through the petafile logo is a hologram that comes up on your screen which I have a

[2:27:21] picture of if anybody wants to see it.

[2:27:26] There are lots of events that are not

[2:27:29] children. You can't take your child to an NC 17 movie. You can't take as someone else

[2:27:38] said, you can't take them to a strip show. There's lots of things that you can't do with

[2:27:42] your kids. You might want to, but the government says you can't. And in this situation,

[2:27:50] And this is a show that by their very description is not child friendly, not.

[2:28:01] So are you guys going to stand up for our kids?

[2:28:04] You have the choice to stand up for our children.

[2:28:10] We can't do it without your help.

[2:28:27] Some people have said that you can't let just light morality, but when you think about it,

[2:28:33] what is law, all law, is morality canonized, all of it.

[2:28:39] Morality sees further than intellect.

[2:28:42] I didn't make that up.

[2:28:43] Somebody else smarter than me, didn't.

[2:28:46] So I've got to comment with the organization

[2:28:50] of the Golik Havasu.

[2:28:51] He said they've been coming,

[2:28:53] marketing on all the continents except Antarctica.

[2:28:56] I think he's missing a good bet there.

[2:28:58] I think everyone in Antarctica would like to come here.

[2:29:02] And so I think he should probably make an effort to expose those other stuff there in the icy Antarctica to come here where it's nice and warm and sunny.

[2:29:12] As far as some of the crowds in the channel, I have young granddaughters and we don't go down the channel when they're here on weekends.

[2:29:20] During the weeks, we go down the channel, but on weekends we generally avoid that because it's just a lot more exposure than we want our grandchildren, our granddaughters to get used to seeing something that's acceptable.

[2:29:38] So the bridge has been here for over 50 years. A lot of people know about it all over the country. It's been publicized quite a bit.

[2:29:45] I don't think we really have a problem attracting people because as you said,

[2:29:50] the place gets pretty crowded on holiday weekends of people.

[2:30:00] Common here for vacation. We've got Airbnb rentals that are pretty busy and creating all kinds of other issues, but there's it's a popular place. So apparently they've done a job at promoting it, because it's working we're overrun with tourists. San Francisco and Chicago, the mayor of Chicago is a big hit. She's refused to allow white reporters to have interviews with her. And she's got the highest murder rate.

[2:30:30] in the city that's in years and so I don't know if you want to visit San Francisco, the place

[2:30:36] is a trash heap, you've seen videos on the news.

[2:30:40] Maybe people that live in that area would like to come here and get away from some of that,

[2:30:44] but we should all want to bring in their politics here because they don't seem to learn from

[2:30:49] their lessons of the district attorney that they've got there and their law enforcement

[2:30:56] allowing all this debauchery, people in San Francisco,

[2:31:00] please read your comments on how they impact Lake Habitsu City.

[2:31:05] I'm sorry, keep your comments on how they impact Lake Habitsu City.

[2:31:07] Well, if we have people from California come here

[2:31:10] and bring their politics here, we'll wind up

[2:31:12] with those drug problems here.

[2:31:14] We've already got some drug problems here,

[2:31:16] I've seen it in the paper,

[2:31:17] and we really don't need that for our children.

[2:31:20] So I like the low crime rate here.

[2:31:23] I like the safety that's here

[2:31:25] and bringing some of that kind of stuff from Chicago

[2:31:28] and San Francisco doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

[2:31:32] So as far as the two million bucks that are in the bank

[2:31:35] for the Go Lake Havasu controlled by the bylaws,

[2:31:39] who can change the bylaws?

[2:31:41] Can those bylaws be changed by the Go Lake Havasu staff

[2:31:45] or in the board and then has changed the where that money goes?

[2:31:49] If the bylaws currently say that it comes back to the city,

[2:31:53] can those bylaws be changed and give somebody a pay raise and and spend it somewhere else.

[2:32:00] I'd like to know who can change the bylaws.

[2:32:03] Yeah, traditionally, the bylaws can be changed by the board of directors of the organization,

[2:32:08] but maybe Mr. Concanton can speak specifically to how your bylaws are written on who can change those.

[2:32:15] So, yes, you're correct that our bylaws are created by our board of directors and they can be

[2:32:20] change by our board of directors.

[2:32:22] My board of directors is made up of community leaders, business leaders in this community who

[2:32:28] have integrity and understand what it is that we do and the importance of the bylaws and

[2:32:33] more importantly, the importance of the contract and our relationship with the city.

[2:32:37] Under no circumstances, I will state this for the record, under no circumstances, will that

[2:32:42] clause and our bylaws ever be removed in that it says that whatever happens if our organization

[2:32:50] results. We will never change that. And you have my word on that, a further record.

[2:32:56] Thank you.

[2:33:00] Okay. We've heard people's words before, but I would like to see it in writing somewhere that says those bylaws would not be changed to reallocate that money someplace else.

[2:33:13] Thank you.

[2:33:14] Yeah, thank you.

[2:33:18] Mr. Mayor.

[2:33:19] Yeah, quite a bit.

[2:33:19] We can also, too, before we go and hypothetical modes

[2:33:22] in different ways, I think we need to look at those by-laws

[2:33:24] and find out exactly what the facts are

[2:33:26] before we assume one way or the other.

[2:33:28] If we do have concerns about it, that's something

[2:33:30] we should do our research prior, too,

[2:33:32] just forming a lynch mob and going after it.

[2:33:34] Go like have a suit for something we think is there,

[2:33:36] but we don't know if it's there.

[2:33:37] So I think we definitely need, it's definitely a good point.

[2:33:40] And I think we should have looked into it prior to the meeting

[2:33:42] if it was a concern instead of just bringing it out there

[2:33:44] is a gotcha thing but if it's out there and it's in the bylaws then it's there if it's

[2:33:49] not it's definitely something we need to work to fix to but if it's a hypothetical we just

[2:33:53] don't know the values of it I think we just need to wait and and find that out and it sounds

[2:33:57] like definitely something we all agree on is we think it's there and I think it shouldn't be there

[2:34:01] and if it's not it's definitely something we're going to fix but be careful going down that

[2:34:05] road of we should have done this we should have not we don't even know for sure we haven't

[2:34:09] And just to clarify as a board member of Goley Cavassou, both you and City Manager,

[2:34:14] can you have those bylaws in your packet. But just to be on the safe side next time we have

[2:34:20] a meeting, I will reassure it and make sure that every board member has a copy of our bylaws just

[2:34:26] in case.

[2:34:29] Thank you. Hi, Ginger Daddy, have a city. For the two million, if it's in the bylaws

[2:34:34] and not tied in the contract, why do we have to wait till next spring to address it? I think that

[2:34:40] to be addressed right away for the $2 million.

[2:34:43] Additionally, because California shut down,

[2:34:47] I knew some actually was the blue chair did

[2:34:51] employer the month in December of 2021,

[2:34:54] and knew some was it, because we were slammed

[2:34:57] with Californians, everyone knows that.

[2:34:59] Because California...

[2:35:00] When you shut down, we were slammed here. Why could we have cut back our budget to advertise when everyone

[2:35:07] here knows? We could even keep the people we had. If you go on the island, the Sam's Beach

[2:35:12] Comer, the Islander and Crazy Horse never filled up in April and in April of 2020, they were slammed.

[2:35:21] They were all filled up. Also, we only had a stop sign going over the bridge. And you guys know it was a temporary stop sign that was put up

[2:35:29] Memorial, Labor, and for the July because of the 2020 pandemic, we now have a permanent stop

[2:35:37] sign there. So I don't want to stand why we spent so much money on advertising when we

[2:35:42] didn't need to. Additionally, okay, going to the organizers of this drag show or show, we say,

[2:35:51] Transvestite Show, AZpriteShow.org.

[2:35:55] Those organizers, there's one gentleman

[2:35:58] that's a logistics guy.

[2:35:59] He put us on his Facebook when we were here three weeks ago,

[2:36:03] and he was making fun of us because we're old,

[2:36:05] and that we don't get it.

[2:36:07] And that we are reddix,

[2:36:09] that he didn't say the word reddix.

[2:36:11] But I wanna encourage you guys to go look.

[2:36:13] This gentleman,

[2:36:16] John, let me get to his name.

[2:36:19] Christopher J. Hall, on their website, ADPriture.org, they truly have that Pito symbol.

[2:36:26] That Pito symbol in 2007, and I gave a couple of you guys copies of the article, and

[2:36:31] I also gave Chief Doyle, a copy of the article.

[2:36:33] That Pito symbol in 2007 FBI identified it as Pito symbol, and it is on their website only

[2:36:40] when you go through the mobile, not when you go to the actual computer.

[2:36:43] So, this talk about legality, if we take this off, what about the legal part of it being a

[2:36:50] pedo, and pedo for anyone that doesn't know is pedophilia, it's love of children, love

[2:36:55] of children, you guys, and then these, so anyway, that's one thing, and then let me read you

[2:37:01] something, unfortunately, you know, I have to go stalk their Facebook, but Christopher

[2:37:04] J. Hall, just a couple of days ago, yesterday, he is the logistics guy at AVPrycho.org and

[2:37:12] He's also a Mrs. Nature.

[2:37:14] And so a lot of his videos, if you go look at him,

[2:37:18] not at this drag show, but at other drag shows,

[2:37:20] it's just pornography.

[2:37:22] It's just absolute pornography.

[2:37:24] And remember, this is always about the children.

[2:37:27] Always, they will tell you, and they use that word,

[2:37:30] expose, they want to expose the children.

[2:37:32] We want to protect the children.

[2:37:34] We've all been at Halloween costumes when,

[2:37:37] why I smite dress like there has winter men's dress

[2:37:38] like there, why so where they're, and that's funny.

[2:37:41] But we're adults, we're not children that don't understand why these clown faces are mocking women.

[2:37:49] So anyway real quick let me wrap up with obviously prayers for Christopher J. Hall he's the logistics guy that's

[2:37:56] AZPrycho.org. Okay, this is yesterday. Hello friends on this Facebook. I know someone in need of help.

[2:38:02] I've a friend who lives in Fredonia, Kansas, in quotes small town, near Tupica and Wichita.

[2:38:08] They're nine-year-old son recently came out as gay.

[2:38:12] You guys, nine-years-old, if that doesn't break your heart,

[2:38:15] this town is very small and was described to me as a very rural and reddick.

[2:38:20] Mom has let their child know that she supports him and has asked that he

[2:38:23] not say anything in school as he has worked about being bullied.

[2:38:26] For a nine-years-old, that's like a third-grader.

[2:38:29] Does anyone know of any resources in this area for parents and youth and if I'll see if there are local PFLAGs for LGBT organizations in the area?

[2:38:39] But I hope someone may have some connections.

[2:38:41] PFLAG on Wikipedia is an organization for LGBT to help.

[2:38:47] But you guys this kid's nine years old.

[2:38:48] If you don't think that there's an agenda here, you, and this is the gentleman again.

[2:38:54] That's AZ Pride Show that's putting us that's the logistics guide.

[2:38:57] If you don't think there's an agenda here for our children,

[2:38:59] who are babies, a lot of it, anyway, thank you.

[2:39:04] Thank you.

[2:39:05] We have an ults like to address the council during the public hearing.

[2:39:10] Mayor, can I make one difference?

[2:39:12] Yes, council.

[2:39:13] Council.

[2:39:14] I've spoke with a city manager in regards to this.

[2:39:17] We get $X amount of dollars from the resolution that we amended

[2:39:21] back in 1996 if I remember correctly, which increased

[2:39:25] start funding to be used specifically for promoting tourism and for promoting the partners

[2:39:33] of economic development. I am happy that we did reduce the contracts per your direction,

[2:39:42] kelts member lane and city manager just reducing that because I think the number would

[2:39:48] be pretty huge that we would be giving both of these organizations and it sounds like to

[2:39:53] Nobody here really would like them to just be holding big reserves of this money. None of us feel that way, but I'm

[2:40:00] That passed for direction from you, our city council, to literally make a line item in the budget showing exactly where we're getting from the one in the 2% and the 3% taxes per the resolution that we put in place, the amended.

[2:40:16] Below that, I want to make sure that we're documenting everything to be under tourism to show that, including the contracts for both of the organizations.

[2:40:26] plus every dollar we spend on tourism,

[2:40:29] because in that resolution, if not many of you know,

[2:40:33] I'm very aware of it, and I know Councilmember Lynn is very aware of it.

[2:40:37] It says it's a misdemeanor if we don't allocate the money properly.

[2:40:42] So in front of all of us today, as direction,

[2:40:44] I would really like to have it very transparent.

[2:40:47] How much money we get from this organization,

[2:40:50] and exactly where the money goes to,

[2:40:52] because I don't want to go to jail over all this. Is anybody okay with that?

[2:40:57] Yeah, so we'll come back to that. So that's turning, make the left turn and we still have

[2:41:01] citizens to hear from just a couple of things on that is one council member Lane did help

[2:41:06] drive this contract renewal with the assistance of the city managers office, but it was this council

[2:41:10] that adopted it. So that's we all understood what the challenges were of this. When it comes to

[2:41:17] money that we're receiving from Go Lake Avenue, we don't receive money from Go Lake Avenue. We pay

[2:41:22] them a fee for service based on the contract. Well, we get are the sales tax that are generated

[2:41:26] from that. So I don't know.

[2:41:29] No, I totally understand what I was saying. And I think most people out here understood

[2:41:32] what I was saying. But again, I thought this was about contractual agreements with go like

[2:41:38] have a suit. So I was kind of trying to bring it back to the topic of how we make sure that

[2:41:43] we allocate the money properly. That's very transparent where the money goes to. And I believe

[2:41:49] that City Manager just mentioned that we spend millions

[2:41:53] a dollars on tourism in this community.

[2:41:56] And I just want it all to be totally transparent to everybody.

[2:41:59] I'd like to see a line item.

[2:42:01] So again, I'm aware of that's tax dollars.

[2:42:03] And I am aware of the resolution.

[2:42:05] And I am aware of how much money we would have been

[2:42:08] giving two organizations under the direction of the City Council.

[2:42:12] It was changed to reduce those contracts,

[2:42:14] leaving us a surplus of extra money that I absolutely

[2:42:18] you want transparent and documented for every one of the citizens to make sure that we are not

[2:42:23] using the money and just the general fund. That's all I'm asking. Yeah, thank you.

[2:42:30] Yeah, Pastor Zimmer.

[2:42:33] I thought maybe I was off the hook that I'm not.

[2:42:37] I'm Keith Zimmerman and something's been burning in me as I've been sitting here.

[2:42:44] And I'm not, I'm a pastor in this city, but I'm not here representing my church.

[2:42:52] I'm not here representing being the citizen of this city since 1978, but I'm here representing

[2:43:01] the children because I grew up with a pedophile father.

[2:43:08] It's the first time I've ever said that word out loud, referring to him, but he was.

[2:43:16] He also was a very abusive alcoholic.

[2:43:19] And if he said, I was going to one of these events that would be, yes sir.

[2:43:26] So I am saying these children could be dragged there, not on their own will, but by someone

[2:43:36] who had ulterior motives to stimulate them, and so I didn't want to say that, but I had to

[2:43:46] say that.

[2:43:47] We can't allow children in there.

[2:43:50] I'm sorry.

[2:43:51] We just can't, and I'm saying that on behalf of all of the children who have suffered that

[2:43:58] or would suffer that.

[2:44:00] Thank you.

[2:44:01] Thank you.

[2:44:03] What do you want to say to a press?

[2:44:06] Mr. Mayor, can I ask you a question?

[2:44:07] Yes, councilor Lynn.

[2:44:08] To Terrence, do you have to, if you wanted to remove the family friendly on the event, if

[2:44:16] you wanted to remove, they have to go to your board desk that are, can you yourself remove

[2:44:19] that?

[2:44:20] Just that, just that.

[2:44:21] You simply added the, I mean, added the listing itself and take the, I'm not asking for

[2:44:27] the whole listing.

[2:44:27] I'm just trying to get a little piece here.

[2:44:29] Can you at least take off the child, friend, they are family friendly, part, are you allowed

[2:44:34] to do that yourself?

[2:44:35] Or do you have to go to your board desk to do that?

[2:44:37] I would I would I would I would with all due respect count remember then I would again deferred to my board just to be honest first to be safe so one

[2:44:45] Because we've never done it for any other any other event and so I'm

[2:44:50] Conscious that a precedent may be set and that we may I don't want to put this city and I don't want to put my organization at legal risk, so I will

[2:45:00] For my board is the body that oversees me and my staff and our efforts. And I think it would be better served if we went through my board.

[2:45:07] So I thought I read somewhere in your contract that you can decide how an event is promoted. You can decide how that's promoted.

[2:45:16] So if that poster came there and it says, family friendly, you can choose to take that family friendly part off.

[2:45:22] Okay, well, first of all, I don't see us as promoting event just like every other event in this city and a stakeholder business like London Bridge resort, we are simply listing this event.

[2:45:32] We have given no money to this event, we have not given them any help. I think we talked to them once on the phone.

[2:45:39] I can talk with the organizer, we can talk with the organizer about that and see if there's a compromise. Other than that, I would be very hesitant to do that.

[2:45:49] And it's been, how long has it been up on the, on the, on the calendar?

[2:45:53] Uh, since the day after the last one, so February.

[2:45:56] And you've been hearing from the people, just take the family friendly, and we're waiting

[2:46:00] till now to have that conversation with the promoter.

[2:46:02] I've been hearing with people, we've been hearing them for about a month, and I get

[2:46:05] to hear about them from last month.

[2:46:06] So I've heard about it before a month.

[2:46:08] And I, I don't believe that when I read the listing, it doesn't say family

[2:46:11] friendly.

[2:46:11] It says, Ollie, just welcome.

[2:46:12] I don't, is, do what I read, so I don't know, I'm not interpreting definitions.

[2:46:19] I'm just telling you what, what I read, so.

[2:46:21] That was on the golly cab as to listing.

[2:46:24] That's where I saw that, is it all ages welcome?

[2:46:27] Yeah.

[2:46:29] So Mayor?

[2:46:30] Yeah.

[2:46:30] Councilor Campbell?

[2:46:32] Mr. O'Connor.

[2:46:34] We could be legally responsible to, if we're not allowing a constitutional event to run,

[2:46:41] but we can do a drag show.

[2:46:43] We could probably dig in thousand different ways and find a reason why how the city

[2:46:49] and it's go like havoc so it could be sued on some level and you've heard from Mr. Goodwill.

[2:46:57] Goodwill, goodwill, goodwill, goodwill, goodwill, that he tried several times to ask your help and you responded back,

[2:47:05] but this item is not on the event calendar and that is literally next week.

[2:47:11] So we could some people in this room could claim that you were prejudice based on your direction

[2:47:18] of why you would put one invent on there and why not. I'm not saying that, but let's be crystal clear,

[2:47:25] we can't just protect one item and not another. And we've had a lot of voice in here tonight

[2:47:31] that are literally just asking a simple thing, just remove the kids. And I do agree in the contract

[2:47:38] in the contract that we have in front of us and the contract that you had it literally stated

[2:47:43] we read it out loud I think you read it or somebody read it that it said that you can make

[2:47:48] that direction. So I think personally I can't speak for everybody else up here or my attorney

[2:47:57] or attorney at the city attorney but I'm willing to take that risk.

[2:48:04] Mr.

[2:48:09] Mayor, Mr. City Council, there was a drag queen show two weeks ago last Sunday in Texas

[2:48:16] where Antifa showed up and with uniforms, arms, long rifles, shields, we're going to

[2:48:29] on Tifa here at the Lundipritory's org, guarding the this event like they did in Texas?

[2:48:39] Sort of the first time hearing about this. So yeah, I don't know anything about that.

[2:48:42] So Antifa is aligned with this drag queen show over there in Texas. It's like,

[2:48:47] I guess it's a national promotional event. So I would think that they would,

[2:48:53] If the Antip is going to become an over here to be their protectors,

[2:49:01] you did not know that

[2:49:02] they did that.

[2:49:03] No, I did not.

[2:49:05] Well, I think that that's a big concern here.

[2:49:08] If there was a 30 or 40 Antip members, all dressed and black-looking like ISIS terrorists,

[2:49:16] standing in front of the London Bridge resort, I don't think that would be a very good

[2:49:21] look for our city, and I think it would be dangerous.

[2:49:24] for everyone involved if that were to be allowed.

[2:49:29] Thank you.

[2:49:32] All right, everyone else, I'd like to address the council.

[2:49:35] All right, we'll go ahead.

[2:49:37] Yeah, I believe you already give what opportunity.

[2:49:40] One more thing.

[2:49:42] I was working the batting cages during COVID.

[2:49:46] When the temperature was comfortable.

[2:49:52] And we shut down during the summer, and there was a period there.

[2:50:00] There were every single one of our ball parks. Across the entire city was maxed out with baseball games,

[2:50:09] all from California and Nevada, who had closed down their economies. I'm sure that the channel

[2:50:15] was full of boats. I, as I understand, councilman Lane told us one time that it was an attempt

[2:50:22] to close down the channel early on in the COVID. But so many people set up pop ups on the beach,

[2:50:29] that they were closer together than if they'd been on their boats.

[2:50:33] So we went back to the channel operating, and business actually, as Arizona is a recent Arizona,

[2:50:40] and we moved here in 2016,

[2:50:43] 2015, business actually hardly ever changed in the scheme of things.

[2:50:48] There was a few weeks where we kind of slowed down.

[2:50:51] But then all of the I look back at the whole two years of COVID as being,

[2:50:56] I hardly changed my lifestyle at all.

[2:50:58] I was out going out to dinner with friends. I was attending church. I was going to sporting events

[2:51:04] whatever I needed to do. I mean, it was amazing. The people who came to Lake Havasu came here because we were free.

[2:51:11] It was that simple. And they're to this day, California is locked down and masked and

[2:51:18] their health director controls 10 million people and their ability to go to the beach

[2:51:23] to go into the water and so people instinctively flocked here to have a soup because we were

[2:51:32] free we were open and this had nothing to do I highly doubt that it was you could wrap

[2:51:37] it up you already had your five minutes earlier so please if you grab up your comment.

[2:51:43] I'm just saying is that the Lake Gull Lake Havasu I think is a small, a small part of the

[2:51:49] attraction of what Lake Kavatsu and Arizona in general is, people come here because, as we

[2:51:56] did, we evacuated California for the freedom of Arizona and I think that that's a great

[2:52:02] thing to maintain and to promote, but it doesn't need promotion.

[2:52:07] People already know, the snowbirds come here by themselves, the balloon is come here by themselves.

[2:52:12] Everybody that comes here, the boaters, they know where it is, I don't think that they're

[2:52:17] and some advertising somewhere in order to come to come to Lake Havocet.

[2:52:24] Thank you.

[2:52:26] All right.

[2:52:27] Yes.

[2:52:27] Something real quick.

[2:52:28] Yeah, please.

[2:52:29] Sam Schkemerdo, Mayor and Council.

[2:52:32] I could be labored everything here in spoke for 20 minutes on what's going on right here,

[2:52:36] but I'm not going to.

[2:52:37] And I understand the position you're in because they said that right where Nancy was 20

[2:52:41] years ago when we did that in 1996 effort right there.

[2:52:45] My issue right here is with that and I was a little bit unsure about this, too, was, was the,

[2:52:53] Mr. Kent Cannon, he's essentially getting his pay from the city and from the taxpayers.

[2:52:58] So we're going to let an employee of the city of Lake Kavosu City in salt, all of the voters,

[2:53:04] and the citizens of Lake Kavosu by calling us big hits.

[2:53:08] That's my main issue.

[2:53:09] The rest of the stuff, the one lady says that 110 people in this room are gay.

[2:53:14] I don't know, I don't believe that that's the figure's at high.

[2:53:17] I'm sure there are some gay people in this room.

[2:53:19] I'm not one, you know, so it's just that it is, so I leave another nine people to go with

[2:53:24] someplace else.

[2:53:26] I'm just a little bit irritated in the fact that Mr. Khan can and makes the policy himself

[2:53:30] for one issue, I eat the, the Constitution week and doesn't make it for this, this drag

[2:53:37] clean thing.

[2:53:38] It's little kids all I'm worried about.

[2:53:40] I'm not worried about the adults.

[2:53:42] Think of a thousand people, as far as I can see

[2:53:44] and they can come in as long as they're 21 or older.

[2:53:46] You know, because this thing is regardless of what he says

[2:53:49] and what the defenders of the gay lifestyle say,

[2:53:53] this is recruiting is exactly what it is.

[2:53:56] The whole thing is recruiting youngsters and kids

[2:53:59] to the gay lifestyle.

[2:54:01] They want to become gay with them later on,

[2:54:04] but we don't need recruiting effort there.

[2:54:06] And as far as antifa, I welcome them.

[2:54:10] I'd love to see a T-FA come here and throw it to us. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:54:25] I guess I'm on the same note as a couple of the last two that said what they said about Lake

[2:54:31] Havasus City. But I came here for the record. What's your name for the record?

[2:54:38] Margie Eckert. Okay. Thank you, Margie. Slash Doran.

[2:54:45] I came over on a McCullough flight in 1967 and my husband and I thought this was a wonderful place to be away from the big city and all the things it happened in a big city.

[2:55:00] Partying kind of like a new fresh life. And it was wonderful. And then we moved, actually moved over here in 78. And shortly after that, we opened a business and we've been in business for a lot of years. We sold it not too long ago. But I just thought, how wonderful for people to bring their children here and have that fresh new life like I did as an adult.

[2:55:30] And there's so many wonderful things for the children to do here and we had the lake and you can go kayaking or boating or whatever you want to do here and you're away from the things that happen in big cities that are not good for our children.

[2:55:46] So, we want that same feeling here in Lake Cavusucity.

[2:55:52] We want our children to be brought up to know goodness.

[2:55:57] And we want our children to know that there's a creator here who created all of this.

[2:56:05] And so we just, we just ask that we do wonderful things for our children and have wholesome,

[2:56:13] so they can have a wholesome life here.

[2:56:15] And not be subject to things that are not good for them, and so I think that that's the main thing that I feel and I think there's a lot of us that feel that.

[2:56:30] So we need to ask our creator and the one that's in charge make this a whole someplace for all of our children and all of our people.

[2:56:41] Thank you.

[2:56:42] Thank you.

[2:56:46] All right, we're going outside to address the

[2:56:49] Council's very public hearing.

[2:56:51] All right, we'll go ahead and close the public hearing

[2:56:53] and bring it back to Council for discussion

[2:56:54] and follow up on any possible direction.

[2:56:58] Mr. Mayor.

[2:56:58] Yeah, Vice Mayor Dolan.

[2:56:59] As liaison, I'd like to say some points.

[2:57:03] There's also history in this room.

[2:57:05] We don't want to say it, but no one wants to be called a bigot.

[2:57:07] And I'm not defending what Karen said,

[2:57:11] but the truth is, a year ago, there are people in this room

[2:57:13] It had nothing to do with kids.

[2:57:15] Nothing.

[2:57:16] It was about them case.

[2:57:18] Those we don't need this in our neighborhood.

[2:57:20] You can go back and you can watch the video

[2:57:21] from our Patriot group.

[2:57:22] And that's what it was all about.

[2:57:24] So yes, I am very concerned about the kids.

[2:57:27] And I'm going to be talking with the police department.

[2:57:28] I'm going to be talking, bring my concerns to the board.

[2:57:32] But let's call it what it is.

[2:57:33] There are people in this room right now that are bigots.

[2:57:35] And they were bigots last year and they still are.

[2:57:38] So let's not walk around that.

[2:57:40] Okay, well, like I said, last year had nothing to do with the kids, it had to do with the gays.

[2:57:46] So I am, okay, but do I not allow to talk?

[2:57:49] Show a little bit of respect, please.

[2:57:51] Yes, like I said, I do have concerns.

[2:57:54] I'm also not a big fan of this whole gacha thing, where old, the convention wasn't allowed to post it.

[2:58:02] Okay, well, he said, it never was an official.

[2:58:04] There was a miscommunication there.

[2:58:06] I think it should definitely be put up there.

[2:58:07] I'm a sponsor of the event as well, and I'd like to see it on there.

[2:58:11] But to go out and make it sound like it's a vindictive thing, and it wasn't done right,

[2:58:15] because, you know, he even said it, it didn't happen that way.

[2:58:18] So that's another thing that I'm going to be bringing into the board that I would like

[2:58:21] to see fixed.

[2:58:22] I am concerned that, and you don't want me as a liaison being the person that makes that

[2:58:26] decision.

[2:58:27] I'm not going to decide what's allowed to happen, and what's not going to happen based

[2:58:31] on my opinion, or what I feel.

[2:58:33] You also don't want me censoring, there's people out there that are offended by the gun

[2:58:36] Should I not have the gun show? We not have the gun shows because it offends people? No, our job is to abide by the Constitution and follow the laws

[2:58:44] So my follow up is going to be to our chief what concerns do we have our way if we're actually concerned about specific things that

[2:58:51] We're brought up about pedophilia and be a friend grooming. What is the police going to do about this event? Are they concerned about it?

[2:58:58] So those are things that I promise to take to the board and you can record this. It's also recorded live on the TV channel anyway

[2:59:04] So, but I think we need to stay within that topic, and that is my concern is, like I said,

[2:59:09] it was painted as a totally different picture last year.

[2:59:13] So, like I said, I think we definitely have some things that we need to look at, two hours

[2:59:18] and two and a half hours just to present an event and have a bunch of opinions, which I think

[2:59:23] are great, but now our job is to sort through them and what can we do?

[2:59:27] There are people in this audience that are for a small government, you don't want me getting in

[2:59:32] regulating based on my opinion.

[2:59:34] We need to follow the law.

[2:59:36] So please, just relax, we will follow up with what the law says,

[2:59:40] but like I said, as a liaison for the goal they have to

[2:59:43] see, those are things I promise to bring to the board.

[2:59:46] So, thank you.

[2:59:48] Thank you.

[2:59:50] Any additional comments or thoughts to remember

[2:59:52] to the council?

[2:59:52] Mr. Mayor.

[2:59:53] Councilmember Lynn.

[2:59:54] So I kind of want to go back to the purpose of

[2:59:57] why I asked to have this on the agenda.

[3:00:00] I want to repeat. I did not bring this here, so that it could be discussed about the drinking. I'm glad we talked about it. Everybody got their opinions, thoughts on it. I have mine. Everybody else has theirs. You have yours. But I want to talk about the professional service agreement that we have with have a suci, with the go lake have a suci.

[3:00:20] And I would like to see the current budget because I don't think we saw yet. I know you just finished it. I'm looking at your notes. Can we get the final budget?

[3:00:31] Okay, I just can use an and Vice Mayor do have the budget, but I will make sure that each one of you gets it when I return to the office.

[3:00:39] And then I was wondering, when you're making this final budget, is it similar as when we make our final budget, do you have your goals or what you're going into there?

[3:00:46] Would we be able to see that?

[3:00:48] I guess it comes back.

[3:00:48] I'd like to see what your goals are.

[3:00:50] Well I think one of the reasons why we have a city council liaison is Vice Mayor Dolan attends our meetings goes through a budget process,

[3:00:57] which I start in January for completion at the end of July.

[3:01:03] And he brings those concerns and what we do

[3:01:06] and what we're looking at to the council.

[3:01:09] If you guys would like more than that,

[3:01:12] then bring it to Vice Mayor Dolan.

[3:01:14] And again, he can bring it to the board of directors.

[3:01:18] And he can direct me right now to put anything on the policy.

[3:01:21] Right on the board of directors.

[3:01:22] I want to be on the spot because I know both of you

[3:01:24] were at the liaison's on that.

[3:01:26] So, yeah, maybe because I'm not sure maybe if they don't report it to us then we're not going to know.

[3:01:31] And I don't want to have to go to ask them, you know, where we're just holding that.

[3:01:34] I did report that was one of the goals I gave to like go to the council as well as the council

[3:01:40] that I would be very vigilant about the direction that they were going.

[3:01:45] And I gave updates monthly, maybe every other month.

[3:01:50] about stuff that they were working on and overall, you know,

[3:01:55] direction of our marketing campaigns.

[3:01:57] Yep, I don't want to, I don't want to,

[3:01:59] I don't want to, I don't want to, and I'm not defensive,

[3:02:01] I just want to, I just want to, I just want to count to

[3:02:03] never learn.

[3:02:03] If you ever want to attend, we would love to have you.

[3:02:05] Okay.

[3:02:06] I just want to see what those goals are.

[3:02:08] Okay.

[3:02:08] But what that looks like wouldn't have how that feels and

[3:02:10] hit the budget.

[3:02:11] And then I really want to go back to this discussion of the money that

[3:02:16] that money that right now is in the coffers and what that looks like

[3:02:18] with the bylaws, I would like to leave here tonight,

[3:02:24] knowing exactly what that looks like

[3:02:26] and where that money would go, if there was a...

[3:02:29] Yeah, if I may, I think you're points for an aid.

[3:02:32] I think that the bylaws have that in there,

[3:02:35] I think that we can give direction to Mr. Knudsen

[3:02:38] and Ms. Gary to come back with an amendment

[3:02:40] to our contract that has that language in there

[3:02:43] that we can have, but if you check out some meeting

[3:02:45] to ensure that that's from the nose of the heads

[3:02:49] and the conversation with the council.

[3:02:50] I believe we have a consensus on that item.

[3:02:53] Would that suffice for your request?

[3:02:55] I was just waiting for that.

[3:02:56] That's exactly what I was waiting for.

[3:02:57] Yeah, thank you.

[3:02:58] I think we have that.

[3:02:59] And I can go like have a suit welcome that.

[3:03:01] Yeah, thank you.

[3:03:02] It seems like you already have based on your policies,

[3:03:04] and your by-law statistics, and that's not the issue.

[3:03:06] So, okay.

[3:03:08] If I made it, if customer Coke has any thoughts?

[3:03:11] Well, I've been quiet, and not for the lack of interest, I just want to make very clear

[3:03:17] because a lot of the people in the public probably are not aware of this.

[3:03:20] But my first 15 years in, like, have a city I spent working in the same office as that was

[3:03:26] then the CVB.

[3:03:27] I worked for the CVB for my first year that I lived in, like, have a zoo.

[3:03:31] And then the next 14 years I worked for the Chamber of Commerce.

[3:03:34] So I'm very well versed on how they operate, they're budget, and all of the things that go

[3:03:39] on in the office.

[3:03:39] So I don't have a lot of questions regarding a contract because I've been involved and been

[3:03:44] around it for so many years.

[3:03:46] So please don't take my silence as the lack of interest in the topic.

[3:03:50] The topic that we were presented was the discussion and presentation regarding the professional

[3:03:54] services agreement, which that wasn't really the primary focus of the public comments,

[3:04:00] which is fine.

[3:04:01] I just didn't have a lot of comments on the contract because I'm well aware of it.

[3:04:05] So I just wanted to make that clear.

[3:04:07] Yeah, thank you. Yeah, and there were some comments that were made throughout right of the statements about about the funding and what that funding looks like

[3:04:15] So there is an ordinance that came in 1986, but long before that back in the 80s there was the initial ordinance that started by it was industry led by hotels

[3:04:26] To want to find a way that we could have funding for tours of promotion and so those hotels came to

[3:04:34] counsel and said that we like to do, I suppose, the self-tax, basically, to create what

[3:04:39] that bureau was. It sounds like Mr. Bennett was a part of those early conversations on what

[3:04:43] that looked like. That created a 3% bed tax. The intent of those were for tours and promotion.

[3:04:49] And there's some other language because it's back in the 80s, so it had like bridge maintenance

[3:04:52] and a couple of other things that were in there. And then in 1996 there was a strong refer to

[3:04:57] based on increased dim-

[3:05:00] Command and competition in the marketplace for additional revenues to be able to support go like how to assume what that, excuse me, the tourism, marketing efforts for our community, which happened to go through what it's now, but like how to suit.

[3:05:13] So that was an additional 1% food and beverage tax. So the intent was the 3% bed tax and the 1% food and beverage tax when folks go to restaurants or bankwall halls would go into a tourism and economic development.

[3:05:26] fund way 25% of the funds going to the partnership economic development and 75% of the

[3:05:33] funds going to tours and development by way of Gold Lake Habsuit.

[3:05:37] What comes from Berlin and the rest of the California discussions over the last two years

[3:05:41] was, you know, that was in perpetuity, I mean, it was a percentage based on the volume, so

[3:05:45] maybe at one point we're rewarded by their success, which is fantastic, but then when

[3:05:50] is enough too much and we noticed that the assets were large on the balance sheet.

[3:05:55] They were a large initially for my understanding at one point was the instability of where the visitor center was located in that

[3:06:03] My fund to be able to build a permanent visitor center for the future or whatever that might happen something something we still wrestle with

[3:06:10] Yeah, so I don't know if that still was the goal with that's where those dollars were this council then came forward with a lot of the concerns that many of you

[3:06:17] brought forward when it comes to the operation component of that and that's why we have a

[3:06:22] are certain amount for go like have a sue and the PD for the professional services in which we

[3:06:28] are asking them to do for us. So there are other ways that we could do this. We could not do

[3:06:33] any tours of promotion as one person suggested that would, in my opinion, be affordable to service

[3:06:41] to our community. There are studies for every dollar invested in tours of promotion, the returns

[3:06:45] that we get our, you know, well above eight or nine dollars in return, local and state sales taxes

[3:06:53] that help pay for the other services.

[3:06:54] So please, fire, parks, roads, all the same things that we enjoy today if we didn't do tours

[3:06:59] in promotion.

[3:07:00] So maybe the number is incorrect, and that's what we need to monitor and manage.

[3:07:04] We have another year and a half or so of this contract.

[3:07:07] We can do an amendment going forward so we can just solidify it contractually, the obligation

[3:07:12] of if something were to happen with the Bureau where those monies on the assets would go,

[3:07:18] which would revert back to the city in some fashion, we'd absolutely have that to our staff

[3:07:23] to be able to work through on what that looks like, and then bring back that amendment.

[3:07:27] But that's just some history of where the monies went and why you did that and why we were

[3:07:32] doing tours and promotion.

[3:07:34] But some of the events that we have in Joy and like have a city are at the direct results

[3:07:38] of going to have a suit in the works that they do.

[3:07:40] So, we cannot take for granted that we would just have

[3:07:42] to have vegetables and boat regardless and off-road fares

[3:07:45] and all of those things because we wouldn't.

[3:07:48] There's a lot of competition that is out there.

[3:07:51] Thor's and promotions are very important component.

[3:07:54] And we're just talking about this one small asset,

[3:07:56] but we have thousands of people that work in this industry.

[3:08:00] That this is the main lifeblood of our community,

[3:08:02] is Thor's and it's very important that we continue to keep

[3:08:06] that as an economic driver.

[3:08:07] Now, the great benefit, if you're not one of the people

[3:08:09] work in the industry. You certainly are impacted by it by one of the great restaurants we have

[3:08:14] that you can choose from all the great events that we have, the good roads. We have one of the

[3:08:19] best park systems in my opinion and a lot of good quality of life that comes from what tours it

[3:08:24] looks like. So I think this council has been focused and forward thinking on how to address

[3:08:29] this contract, like I said based on some of the feedback we've received because of these actions,

[3:08:35] we can take a look at it and monitor and see if that number is not right number or if it's a

[3:08:39] different calculation, or something on those lines, but to get back to the intent of what

[3:08:45] Councilman will then said her intent was for this item is the contract.

[3:08:48] So I think by consensus, we have that we'll come back with the amendment, however, that

[3:08:53] can work, and we will continue to monitor the activities of the contract and how the professional

[3:08:59] services are delivered, and we will have an opportunity in about a year or so to start the

[3:09:04] for the renewal, or direction of a contract and what that might look like for tours of promotion.

[3:09:12] Is that a good synapses and do I have support of the council to move in that direction on this item?

[3:09:19] Okay.

[3:09:19] So with the nod of everyone's head, I'll go ahead and move on to the next item on our agenda.

[3:09:24] at the name of the special item, and from my phone, please.

[3:09:29] One more direction.

[3:09:32] The reason why we had two and a half hours of this tonight

[3:09:35] is I believe of a kind of almost a code of conduct.

[3:09:39] I personally do not want any my drivers calling our customers

[3:09:43] names on radios or which I really love

[3:09:47] to have elevated the professionalism a little bit.

[3:09:50] I have not called anybody a name in here.

[3:09:52] I don't have any intention to do that, and that's what I did want to bring was as there

[3:09:58] a code of conduct.

[3:10:00] Or, really, we're offended by the radio. And that's what I heard over and over.

[3:10:05] Yes, so currently, as the contractor, that's in front of us, that we all had the opportunity to either pass and

[3:10:11] adopt and then read, of course, before our meeting today, does not have a code of conduct listed specifically.

[3:10:16] If that's something that we can address in future contracts, certainly, that if we find out what that looks like and what that matter,

[3:10:24] what focuses that is for us, we heard a lot of different feedback from a lot of different citizens,

[3:10:29] It's all very valuable and very important, but we have to do a lot of work.

[3:10:32] There was some emotional, so brought into the conversation of facts on both sides of the argument that I don't know to be true or not to be true, but worth looking into, again on both sides of the issue, but I do think that we can bring that forward for future contract discussions.

[3:10:50] All right, with that being said, we'll move on to the next item on our agenda.

[3:10:52] So it's item 8.4 is our next item, it's to approve a change order number 1 to construction

[3:10:58] contract for the island-based water treatment, plant flow equalization basin, replacement

[3:11:03] project with technology construction LLC.

[3:11:08] Good evening Mr. Hart, we'll give you a second to get set up there.

[3:11:15] Thank you, just take a second here.

[3:11:25] Uncle Desk,

[3:11:30] I will go this, please.

[3:11:37] City Council, right?

[3:11:39] There we

[3:11:49] go.

[3:11:49] Okay, we're on our own mirror and city council.

[3:11:52] That's an honor being in front of you this evening.

[3:11:55] And I appreciate you waiting here for me.

[3:11:58] To visit this project.

[3:12:00] It's a very important project to us.

[3:12:03] One that we obviously are bringing before you

[3:12:06] and looking for direction.

[3:12:09] So this is our island wastewater treatment plant

[3:12:12] visualization basin replacement project. This project just does a little bit of background

[3:12:18] is they're at the island of wastewater treatment plant. The FEB is what we use for an acronym

[3:12:27] everybody loves acronyms so we throw that around to that is our flow utilization basin and it

[3:12:32] is located when you first come off of, which is actually McCode Boulevard and come into the

[3:12:38] and it's there on the left and it's something that we have been working to replace.

[3:12:46] The original FEB was constructed in 1983 and then modified in 1999 for odor control.

[3:12:53] The FEB was shut down due to various issues in 2011 and we were able to sustain operation during that time

[3:13:02] because flows were low and such to where we didn't need it,

[3:13:05] but we could see that we needed to move forward

[3:13:09] with replacing this very important piece

[3:13:13] to our treatment plant there.

[3:13:16] And this is a condition that it was in at the time

[3:13:19] when we were starting the project.

[3:13:22] The City Council awarded construction

[3:13:23] of the contract to replace it as its CNAFEB

[3:13:26] to technology construction on July 13, 2021.

[3:13:31] So quite a while ago.

[3:13:31] And that was for $4 million, $199,000, and $1, which was nearly $1.2 million below the budget

[3:13:38] of the lotment and engineers opinion of cost.

[3:13:41] And we talked about that at that time and went through, you know, why it was lower and

[3:13:46] there actually were, I believe, five bids and two were comparable to this in the City Council

[3:13:53] to move to go ahead and award that project to them.

[3:13:56] Due to material delays, some challenges there, we began a construction in late November of 2021, and it was suspended late December

[3:14:09] due to the field conditions that arose at that time that the contractor found.

[3:14:13] And if you were to go out there today, this is what you would see on-site there.

[3:14:20] As a reminder, after that, we went to, I approached the City Council with a recommendation

[3:14:28] to amend the design contract with the Corolla Engineers back on February 8th, of 2022 for

[3:14:33] some design revisions, and I had told you at that time that I would be coming back with

[3:14:39] a change order result of that design revisions.

[3:14:43] There are several weeks for them to go ahead and complete the design changes which ended up being on March 28, 2020.

[3:15:00] Do with the package delivered to technology construction. Technology construction provided original costs and

[3:15:09] documentations for proposed changes, costs, exhibitions, and, et cetera, on May 24, 2022.

[3:15:16] I would like to say staff met with technology constructions. They sent a team order, including their

[3:15:24] president back in the first part of January when we were suspended the work saying that they

[3:15:31] wanted to get out of the contract. They wanted to end it, which that is not what we wanted

[3:15:37] to do. And one of the reasons was the cost escalations that they were experiencing. And we share

[3:15:43] with them at that point that if you're able to justify these cost escalations, we were able

[3:15:49] the city in the past has worked with the contractor to help cover some of those costs and

[3:15:55] I refer back to our tank in 2AZ07 project where we had steel and aluminum costs that were

[3:16:02] increasing quite a bit that we ended up negotiating with that increasing for that very reason.

[3:16:09] The review of the growth package was performed by Corolla's special construction group and

[3:16:14] stuff, so Corolla that themselves has a group of contractors, a current and former

[3:16:21] contracts at experts in the field, and can look at these numbers that were being presented,

[3:16:27] and it was quite a big package of the little exhibit A here of what we had to go through

[3:16:33] to get back to them. And so that if he was complete on June 21, 2022, with comments and questions

[3:16:39] sent back to technology. So there were some things we looked at that we were questioning some

[3:16:44] things that we wanted to address and negotiations. As a result of that, they came back on July 5th

[3:16:52] with a cost reduction of nearly $124,000. But unfortunately, as you probably seen the number

[3:17:00] on the Council of Communication in the overall contract, and increased for the change order

[3:17:05] just $1,000,000,000. And 53,000, I believe, somewhere in there, which if you were to look at

[3:17:12] The project has a whole, it's about a 25% increase in cost of construction, which is what

[3:17:17] we are seeing, the kind of as a standard right now on all of our projects that are coming

[3:17:21] in.

[3:17:23] So, while there's a large number, it is something that is a kind of a standard when we look

[3:17:29] at cost escalations and such.

[3:17:32] To talk about a few things, one is obviously the ADQ component of this, whereas when we originally

[3:17:39] want to submit plans to get the approval to construct, 80Q, so whoa, you don't have an FB in place,

[3:17:49] and we said, well, no, we haven't had it since 2011, which there's a lot of discussion

[3:17:55] there, and obviously a lot of work had to be done to make 80Q happy so that we can move forward

[3:18:02] the part of that was a modifying our APP plan,

[3:18:05] which is our aquifer protection permit,

[3:18:11] and a flow equalization plant closed out as well.

[3:18:16] They want to know that things were to go bad

[3:18:18] and not related to the FB, but down the road,

[3:18:21] that we had the money says side to close it up.

[3:18:23] So as a quite long process,

[3:18:24] they went through to finally get a pool

[3:18:26] to do construct, which we started construction.

[3:18:29] As part of this process,

[3:18:30] As we have been negotiating and waiting, you know, when the contractor, obviously there's a

[3:18:37] order to project one of the first things they do is they go out to secure materials.

[3:18:42] And as materials were coming in, we will pay for materials on hand if they have truly been delivered

[3:18:49] and we see them, it's just more as we understand, there's a cost for them to purchase them.

[3:18:55] And we can pay for that portion of that that I am.

[3:18:59] So we currently have roughly about half a million

[3:19:02] and the terminals on hand that are sitting there at the island.

[3:19:07] This first slide that I showed you here,

[3:19:08] that's our 30-inch piping that relates to the FBI.

[3:19:14] Obviously, coming from the headworks building,

[3:19:16] we have in these boxes here that is our mixers.

[3:19:20] For their order control, there's also some bridge.

[3:19:23] They call in bridge anchors for the mixtures if they go out to support them over over the FB

[3:19:30] And we have a lot of rebar and other material that is not they're just waiting to be utilized. So

[3:19:39] That is another component of this project and that would conclude my presentation

[3:19:47] Thank you, Mr. Hard. Are there any questions or comments from members of the council?

[3:19:52] Yeah, I can't count remember late

[3:19:55] I'm almost catch it.

[3:19:57] Hi.

[3:19:59] So, um...

[3:20:01] The original engineer's estimate was 1.2 million higher than what the bid actually came in.

[3:20:10] That is correct. It was 5.3. So even with this change order, we're still under what was originally the engineer's bid.

[3:20:17] Yes, that's the force tools to it. That's very, very good point. So at 5.3 with the construction project coming in at 4.1, that left 1.2, this change over here is for just over 1 million.

[3:20:32] So we're still under budget, fortunately, the money is there. You folks approved it in our new budget. So it's just it's sitting there, not that we want to spend it.

[3:20:43] it is there. And that's the point I wanted to get to is, then we approve the original budget.

[3:20:49] You're still coming in under what the original budget was. It's just sounds like we're making a

[3:20:54] big change order and we're having to move things around, but we're not using any contingency funds.

[3:20:59] There's no extra costs. This is actual money that we already had budgeted. It just,

[3:21:04] we were hoping to get away with not spending that one point too, but it didn't happen.

[3:21:10] Thank you. Yeah, Council Member Coatman?

[3:21:12] I just wanted to clarify, and Jason, if you could, I pretty sure I have the answer straight forward.

[3:21:19] We could say, noted this, we could go back to the drawing board, read the project.

[3:21:23] We take the chance of it coming in even higher, and more than likely, if it's a new contractor,

[3:21:30] not even utilizing the materials we've already purchased.

[3:21:32] We would already lose out on that on top of it, correct?

[3:21:36] That is correct, you could deny this and then we would have to terminate the Kelly would have

[3:21:45] to step in.

[3:21:46] And she's not really excited about hearing that idea, but with terminate the contract, we would

[3:21:51] have to go back to the consultant and repackage the bid package, so they'll be cost there.

[3:21:58] In our minds, we would want to utilize the material that's on hand because it's specialty items

[3:22:04] that you just can't use anywhere else and that always is a touch of subject with contractors

[3:22:09] when they have to provide a warranty for stuff that they didn't buy that's been sitting there

[3:22:14] and such the idea of could we get a bid anywhere near the the say the 5.3 that this might

[3:22:24] in the or the 5.2 that's just going total. I just the way the industry is going right now

[3:22:30] of visitors seeing coming in, I don't see how that's possible, but I'm not a, don't have

[3:22:35] a magic ball either.

[3:22:36] I think it would be much higher.

[3:22:37] And I agree with you.

[3:22:38] I just wanted to, for those out there that say, why are we just, why are we entertaining

[3:22:43] the idea?

[3:22:43] Because I think the alternative would be much worse, so I just want to bring that up.

[3:22:47] Thank you.

[3:22:48] Very good point.

[3:22:49] Thank you.

[3:22:49] That's my vocabulary.

[3:22:51] Hi.

[3:22:54] Was there other contractors putting this job originally?

[3:22:58] There was, yes.

[3:23:00] Okay.

[3:23:01] And I absolutely agree with you.

[3:23:03] Every job that I am touching is way above the 25% margin from a door to a door

[3:23:09] knob.

[3:23:09] It's unbelievable.

[3:23:10] So I agree with you.

[3:23:12] I don't know if it's good to go back through the process.

[3:23:15] But that would be up to legal as well.

[3:23:17] Is this something legally that we can do if...

[3:23:22] Am I asking a good question?

[3:23:24] that if there is there a protocol in place that I'm sure you guys are all following it for

[3:23:29] bed everybody out there that wants to hear that there was other contractors that

[3:23:32] bid it on this job. Going back and accepting a change order at the size even though it's

[3:23:38] under budget is that all okay. Yes. Thank you so much.

[3:23:43] Any other questions or comments from members of the council?

[3:23:46] Yeah. Has at any time did the resilience in your say I told you so?

[3:23:54] No, I mean, I agree, we've got all that a product sitting there, and I think we need to

[3:24:00] move forward, as soon as we can.

[3:24:04] It's unfortunate that it went down the way it did, but I think we need to move forward

[3:24:07] fast.

[3:24:10] All right, this is a public hearing when I like to address the city council on this

[3:24:13] matter.

[3:24:16] Yes, actually.

[3:24:17] Hi, I'm Bonnie Stewart.

[3:24:19] I would just like to suggest in.

[3:24:22] I'm really a little frustrated to hear you guys ask the question about whether or not it is

[3:24:32] it more difficult if you do a change and honestly you don't know if it's more difficult unless

[3:24:42] you actually do the change and every time you guys are faced with these kind of situations

[3:24:49] very frequently, you are, oh, we're not going to change anything, because it may be more difficult.

[3:24:57] You don't know unless you actually...

[3:25:00] Oh, it's going to take more time. It's going to, well, we were already taking time. So what happens if you take

[3:25:08] the time extra and it actually works into your benefit, but you didn't actually go ahead and

[3:25:15] take the extra time. So I was just curious as to why you don't ever want to take the extra time.

[3:25:22] You have thoroughly confused me. It's been a long night, but I'm not really sure if I know what it is you

[3:25:27] saying, but point well taken. Any other comments? Yes, please just make your way to the podium.

[3:25:40] This may be a dumb question. Robert Fisher's again. Maybe a dumb question, but you've got material

[3:25:46] and I couldn't really understand from the picture you showed what it was a picture of and you mentioned

[3:25:51] rebar and so that means concrete and so forth. Have rebar's been laying out in the weather for

[3:25:57] weeks and weeks and weeks get rained on, it gets rusty and it's no longer usable. You have to do

[3:26:04] something else with it to make it usable. Is that product that's been laying there and being protected

[3:26:09] for its utilisation?

[3:26:14] We are aware that we're going to have to take a hard look at the rebar and

[3:26:16] see if it needs sandblast it or see if it needs replace. I mean we have a standard we have a spec that

[3:26:21] have to meet, you know, tickling when we are at this stage. So, yes, we're, we're, we will be

[3:26:29] taking a look at the reward. And from what I've seen, it's got some rest code in on a day that

[3:26:34] could be sandblasted off, you know, we'll, we'll take a deeper look at that, but the reward itself

[3:26:39] is kind of a minor cost and this whole component. Well, it could be a minor cost now to sandblasted,

[3:26:46] But if it wasn't, it'd be a major cost to repair the damage

[3:26:50] if it was installed in the concrete and failed.

[3:26:53] All right.

[3:26:54] Thank you.

[3:26:54] Good point.

[3:26:56] Yeah.

[3:26:56] Thank you.

[3:26:57] What do you want to take to address the council on this item?

[3:27:01] Seeing that, we'll close the public hearing.

[3:27:02] We're back to Council for Discussion and Possible Motion.

[3:27:05] Mr. Mayor.

[3:27:05] Yeah.

[3:27:06] I just want to, you know, we could start this whole process all over again.

[3:27:10] But as I'm reading the community impact, it's saying that this is crucial to continue the

[3:27:14] reliable service at treating wastework.

[3:27:15] This is important.

[3:27:16] We have to do this now.

[3:27:17] Correct, so pushing this on they couldn't this could cause a bigger problem for us, right?

[3:27:23] Yes, it could and it could come back higher

[3:27:27] But I'm not talking about the cost part that I'm talking just in general the project if we don't do this now

[3:27:33] If you cause bigger problem. Yes, we have a process of 80 key. We've committed to build this

[3:27:38] FEP and through the permit process. So

[3:27:41] It is needed. Thank you.

[3:27:46] In any other comments, sir

[3:27:48] Mayor.

[3:27:49] Yeah, Council Member Moses.

[3:27:50] I'm going to approve changer number one to the construction contract for the island, wastewater treatment plant, FEB.

[3:27:55] Replacement project and technology construction LLC in the amount of 1 million, 53,864 dollars and 13 cents.

[3:28:05] Second.

[3:28:08] Motion from Council Member Moses and a second from Council Member Coke.

[3:28:12] I'm sorry for the discussion.

[3:28:14] All right.

[3:28:14] All very please say aye.

[3:28:15] Aye.

[3:28:16] Opposed.

[3:28:19] Motion carries 70 zero. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hart. And our final public hearing item is 8.5.

[3:28:27] Approved cooperative purchase of auto parts and services from car quest DAB Auto Inc.

[3:28:33] DBA Jax Auto Parts for annual expenditures exceeding $50,000.

[3:28:38] You didn't even have a good evening, Mr. Young. Good evening, Mayor. Ladies and gentlemen,

[3:28:43] Council, you know, they say be in last campaign that sucks, Bill Ha. Well, after all this,

[3:28:51] and mine looks easy. So I'm here to ask for approval to exceed 50,000 with in our

[3:29:01] cooperate purchase agreement with Jack's, excuse me, Car Quest doing business as Jack's

[3:29:05] federal parts for aftermarket parts for our fleet and equipment services.

[3:29:12] So, you know, be happy to answer any questions on that last year.

[3:29:15] We did owe about 80, 2000 and we're apparently almost at 20,000 with them right now.

[3:29:22] So, yeah.

[3:29:22] Thank you, Mr. Young.

[3:29:23] And for those in the audience in watching our code requires if we're going to spend

[3:29:27] from one vendor more than $50,000 in a budget year that we have to get to

[3:29:35] for many, many years, and provides critical parts

[3:29:39] for our fleet management.

[3:29:41] There are additional questions for Mr. Righong.

[3:29:43] Mr. Mayor?

[3:29:44] Yeah, I can't remember when.

[3:29:44] I'm assuming the reason is because of our inflation,

[3:29:48] this is why this is going on over.

[3:29:50] Is that part of it?

[3:30:00] But every year it goes up a little bit, but with our aging fleet and now with the complications of getting new vehicles and stuff, it just continues as far as that, that yes, inflation is a great part of that currently.

[3:30:14] Are there any other questions or comments before we open the public hearing?

[3:30:17] All right, this is a public hearing. Would anyone like to address the city council on this matter?

[3:30:23] Seeing that, I'm going to close the public hearing. Bring it back to council for discussion or possible motion.

[3:30:27] Mayor.

[3:30:28] Comments?

[3:30:29] Comments?

[3:30:29] Motion?

[3:30:30] I'm going to have to approve the Cooperative Purchase Agreement for Aspera Market, Autopart Supply

[3:30:35] Services from DAB, Auto Inc., Lake Havasu, Carquest, DBA, Jax, Autoparts, and access

[3:30:41] a $50,000 annually utilizing Omnian Partners Contract, authorized the City Manager to sign

[3:30:48] the Cooperative Purchase Agreement, and authorized the City staff to exercise the option

[3:30:52] to renew as provided for in the agreement.

[3:30:57] Second.

[3:30:58] Sorry.

[3:30:58] All right, that was like a tie, I think.

[3:31:02] So, Council Member Coke made the motion seconded by Council Member Moses.

[3:31:06] Is there any additional conversation here?

[3:31:10] None.

[3:31:10] All those of you who are very pleased to say aye.

[3:31:13] Opposed.

[3:31:16] Motion carries 70.

[3:31:17] Thank you.

[3:31:18] Thank you, Mr. Young.

[3:31:20] Item 9, a current events.

[3:31:22] Are there any council committee reports?

[3:31:25] And we'll make a quick report for the Mojave County Water Authority.

[3:31:29] We did have a meeting today, and one of the action items was talking about obviously

[3:31:34] water in the southwest and on the system and what that looks like, we've all read the news

[3:31:38] reports and had information about the poor condition of the flows, but one area that the board

[3:31:46] elected to move forward with was hiring a federal lobbyist so that when the conversations

[3:31:50] are happening at the federal level, which is good news that those are happening that we do

[3:31:55] have to see at that table. So I'll continue to keep you all posted on what happens, what

[3:31:59] occurs throughout that, but that's a win for us moving forward in those discussions.

[3:32:05] Are there any other council committee reports?

[3:32:08] All right, item 10, future meetings, our next meeting is on Tuesday, September 27, 2022,

[3:32:13] S6PM, and then we will have another meeting on Tuesday, October 11, 2022, S6PM.

[3:32:19] are there any future discussion items?

[3:32:23] Motion to adjourn? All right. We are adjourned. Thank you

[3:32:26] all for joining us. Be kind and we'll see you next time. We are adjourned.

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