[0:00] person >> recording in progress.

[0:02] » Right there. She's right there. The new person,

[0:07] Smokey. Okay, you're here. Just flip around. No, you don't.

[0:15] » Outcast. >> Um, I call it order.

[0:21] » Okay, we're gonna call the meeting to order.

[0:25] » 5:30. Okay. Reminder, everybody talk into the mic. Okay. And we're going to

[0:31] go around and say our name and then Susan can say hers afterwards.

[0:35] » Denise Emry, >> Maryanne Zwag, Heidi Loe,

[0:40] » uh Barry Duncan, >> Debb Hansen,

[0:43] » Julia Kersh, >> Susan.

[0:48] » Thank you. Um, okay. Can I go now? So, a few little

[0:55] announcements. Um, Yavon Love is with us. She is going to be joining us as of

[0:59] September 9th for our next meeting. She'll be on the committee, but she's

[1:02] been approved by mayor and council. So, and Yavon is an associate professor at

[1:08] Penn State, and she live works up there, lives down here in Lewis, and she's

[1:12] going to be a great um addition to the PAC. And she helped me I've had multiple

[1:18] lantern making events and Yavon helped um with this one. And I think this is

[1:23] going to be kind of how we proceed. So, we've already done work. Even though

[1:27] she's not on the committee, I've already put her to work. [laughter]

[1:31] I have a way with that. Um, okay. New meeting info.

[1:36] Are we okay without team Trina? Yeah, we're fine. Okay. Um, new meeting info.

[1:43] This is supposed We have to make sure we do this. The protocol. So, the protocol

[1:48] is Everybody pay attention so you can stop me when I don't do it. A when a mo

[1:53] motion is made and then the motion is seconded

[1:58] there is room for discussion before we actually have to vote and approve it.

[2:03] » Okay. >> So if it's not seconded it fails. So

[2:07] just so you know there is a moment in the middle where we can talk and then

[2:10] possibly make amendments to our original motion which I guess maybe people are

[2:15] not doing. So >> it's a we're now being more strict with

[2:18] the policies. All the policies are going to be more strict. So

[2:21] » policies. >> Um, okay. Those are my announcements.

[2:26] Yan is meeting us artist. She's actually having a show at Hilo Gallery this

[2:32] winter, too. So, we have all kinds of things happening.

[2:36] Um, approval of

[2:40] the minutes. Did everybody read your minutes? They were very long.

[2:45] Um, do I make the motion? You call for a

[2:48] motion. >> I need a I need a motion. I need to call

[2:50] for a motion. >> I move that we approve the minutes as

[2:53] presented. >> Second.

[2:55] » All in favor? >> I

[2:57] » I >> Great.

[3:01] » I [laughter] was waiting for the discussion.

[3:05] » Oh, that's only if we need it. >> Um, okay. Discussion and possible action

[3:11] on proposed sites of the 2027 public art committee tour, bus tour. So, Maryanne,

[3:18] » yeah, I have done some research. >> Uh, so I looked into like four places

[3:22] and I'll start with uh grounds for sculpture and we did look at that a

[3:27] while back. Um, I could go with that one. Oh, yeah.

[3:31] Grounds for sculpture. So, that um is it's a very interesting um they call it

[3:38] a sculpture park. It is a three-hour bus ride

[3:42] » and I you would really need a motor coach for something like that. and that,

[3:46] you know, we've been through that. That does cost money, but if that's something

[3:50] you want to look into, I do have uh prices for the bus. And they do um for

[3:56] seniors, it's 17 $17 a person. Uh $125 for 60minute outdoor walking guided tour

[4:05] fee for 15 people. So, if we have every groups of 15, it's $125. So, that would

[4:11] have to be um booked into that. They don't have per

[4:16] se a restaurant um

[4:20] that would do us a box lunch because their restaurants are with a hospitality

[4:25] service, but they have three places to eat.

[4:27] » That's right. >> So, you know, people could do what they

[4:29] want to do or whatnot. Um and there's a lot going on there. It's very famous. I

[4:35] mean, look at some of the samples up there. I think in a couple years down

[4:39] the road, maybe this is a trip once we get our following going. I mean, I think

[4:44] we could do this. We did a whole coach going to

[4:46] » Yeah, I I think it'd be great, you know. Um,

[4:49] » it's just a matter of having enough time to publicize it.

[4:53] » You need time. >> Excuse me. Somebody went I want to say

[4:57] Cape Penelope and Senior Center. >> Well, no, I think Rahobath Art League

[5:02] went >> and that's why remember we talked about

[5:04] that. But um you know if you do it in April, you have time uh because they

[5:10] they need time to book the the the tour guides in and then you know if you want

[5:15] to get in there at 10:00 right when it opens then you would have to leave here

[5:19] pretty early. >> Yeah.

[5:20] » So that's just a thought. Um then the next one would be the American

[5:27] Visionary Art Museum. Wait, let's see. Let's go to the Bigs Museum. That's

[5:31] probably Oh yeah. Okay. [laughter] I don't care. I can talk about this one.

[5:36] All right. This one is not too far away. It's the Academy of Art in Easton. And

[5:41] it is, let me see if I got this one.

[5:48] They're very nice here. They don't charge for any um any tours or they

[5:53] they'll give out I mean, there's no admission. I mean, you probably could

[5:56] give them a donation. Uh and it's not so far. It's an hour and 30 minutes. It's

[6:02] located in the heart of downtown Easton and it has um you know places to eat or

[6:08] we could work out a box lunch. Um I didn't get back into that but right now

[6:13] there's a show of Annne Lindberg who is a multi- multidis disciplinary artist

[6:18] who works with expanded definitions of drawing, sculpture and textile and two

[6:23] and three dimensions and her shows on through the fall of 2027.

[6:26] » And is this enough for a day like a whole day? Uh, well,

[6:32] » has anybody been there? >> I haven't been to Eastston, but people

[6:35] have been and they like it. They walk around and they do stuff. Um, you know,

[6:40] it's it's an hour and a half away. So, you got that. Then you got, you know,

[6:44] maybe an hour at the museum. I I don't know if it's a two-hour

[6:48] type location, you know, and then you might people walk around and you're

[6:52] you're out of there by three o'clock, you know. So, that's that's, you know,

[6:56] » I mean, East's a nice town. >> That's that's something. Yvon, have you

[6:59] been there? >> She You just come up to the mic and you

[7:02] just state your name and your address. >> Yvon Love, 33872 Darlington Street.

[7:08] » Lewis. Um, I've been to both places. Um, the Academy of Art Museum is lovely, but

[7:14] it's tiny. >> It's really small. It's basic, it's

[7:17] essentially two rooms >> um that are smaller than this.

[7:21] [laughter] But it's beautiful and it's lovely and

[7:25] it would be like I kept thinking about all of your suggestions in terms of um

[7:31] collaborations um with the committee and I think they

[7:35] would be a great collaborator in the future as you guys are looking towards

[7:39] um you know moving art around Trenton Grounds for sculpture um Johnson and

[7:44] Johnson family. So that's the Seawward Johnson sculpture you saw on the bench.

[7:49] Um, I know it because they used to have a working foundry there for artists and

[7:53] it was very reasonably priced. Um, but that that section closed down. That's a

[7:58] day for sure. Um, and it is mostly local sculptors from the Bucks County, Hunter

[8:06] County areas. And again, I was thinking, oh, you can go shopping a little bit for

[8:11] the committee. So, I just wanted to share those. Thank you.

[8:13] » Oh, thank you. So, then the last one would be um, which is one of my

[8:17] favorites. I've been there. I haven't been in a while, but it's um in

[8:21] Baltimore, which is another couple hours drive. Uh I don't know if you'd want to

[8:27] have a coach on that, but it is a 2h hour 30 minute drive. And they were very

[8:33] all these people I talked to in person. It wasn't just going on their website.

[8:37] And they have um they can accommodate up to 60 people and you know they they were

[8:44] they can do dosent tours. It's all by volunteers. And they also do their price

[8:50] for seniors would be $13 a person. And they actually have an art workshop that

[8:57] for $10 people could participate in. We come up with whatever is being shown. So

[9:03] people could do a hands-on that might be fun that they get in there, they go

[9:07] through the museum, they do a workshop, we have lunch. There's a couple places

[9:12] close by. or we can do a box carry out and we can eat in the museum. They do

[9:16] they don't have a cafeteria. So, that's an option. Um,

[9:21] they they gave me a list of places uh that you can even walk to

[9:26] » around there. But, uh, you know, depending on the month, I'm not sure

[9:29] what's going to be shown. So, it's like if if there was some of all of these, if

[9:34] there's something special you really want to see at that month, then you have

[9:37] to target that time. >> But, if we go April, it's whatever is

[9:41] being shown. Well, and you could it would be a lot to do in one day, but you

[9:45] could do this and then do the BMA. >> Well, that's what I was wondering if

[9:48] that would be too much of a stretch. Uh, that's a possibility. I I would do the

[9:52] lunch before I get there and then spend the afternoon there. And maybe that's

[9:56] not a tour. Maybe that's self-guided. People could go and they do have a cafe

[10:00] there if somebody wanted to eat something. So, um, I think it's if if

[10:05] this is something you want to pursue, the the public art committee, then

[10:10] select you know, think about it. We don't have

[10:13] to do it tonight. Where you think we could go?

[10:17] » And then the bigs is the other option. >> The bigs was an option, but you know,

[10:21] the bigs is very much um American art and it's another one's close by. I don't

[10:27] know um you know what else we would do up there. I think I asked them about

[10:31] lunch and you'd have to go to um Panera Bread, have a carry out.

[10:36] » Eggs is shutting down on the 1st of May. They're taking off the whole backside of

[10:42] the bigs because they're expanding. >> Oh, that's interesting.

[10:44] » So, just keep that in mind [clears throat] that I don't know how

[10:47] long they're going to be closed, but they're they're renovating the museum.

[10:52] And so, >> yeah, that might

[10:53] » I just had an education meeting last week and I know their programming is

[10:58] shutting down. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz I had mentioned to that

[11:02] because everybody wanted to know when are you thinking of coming? I said,

[11:04] well, maybe April. But the person I spoke to never mentioned any kind of

[11:08] renovations. But maybe that's not maybe that should wait for another year. You

[11:13] want to get caught. >> Can I um say something about the big

[11:17] » Sure. >> Susan um um

[11:20] » the bigs is lovely. I I get their newsletters and um they also have

[11:27] hands-on programs where they bring in local artists to do some kind of

[11:32] hands-on project. So if we were to go there, we might be able to incorporate

[11:37] that into the day. >> Yeah, I like that idea. I mean, uh,

[11:43] American Visionary in Baltimore said, you know, they could do something and

[11:47] just come up with what month we're going, when we're going, coordinate that

[11:52] with one of the artists in there. >> So, is there uh one of these places that

[11:57] people gravitate toward

[12:01] out of all four? I think we need to think about it.

[12:04] » Yeah, I'd love to go to grounds for sculpture.

[12:07] » That's what I think, too. >> I I just am unsure about filling a bus

[12:12] if >> we just can't think about that, though.

[12:14] We have to just do it and then we have to just promote it. Well, because when

[12:18] we did our other one, we had a whole bus. Like, we can do it if we if we

[12:22] decide tonight and move forward, >> but we can't do it with this kind. This

[12:27] is like a great start, but it's not enough information to actually move

[12:30] forward on how much it's going to cost, which place we're going, how long it's

[12:34] going to be. >> I mean, so we need to narrow it down and

[12:38] then actually get that information. And we need to get it for a big bus and a

[12:42] small bus >> and go for the big bus. And if we have

[12:46] to do the small bus, we go with that. >> I also need to mention we cannot do

[12:49] April, >> okay? because of the it it ran into a

[12:52] lot of issues with budgeting and where the money was coming in and when it was

[12:56] going out and how how it worked. >> What do you mean we can't do April

[13:00] because of the budget? Uh >> because of how a fiscal year falls. I

[13:03] was asked to if we could do it in either March or May.

[13:07] » Well, and also like >> our program has to be dictated by how

[13:11] the money flows. That's kind of weird.

[13:17] » Well, the other thing is we have gone in money blows.

[13:21] » We have gone in fall, we've gone in October, and then we've gone in uh March

[13:27] and April and May, I think. >> Well, I think um

[13:33] also think about if if it's a garden, think about what those gardens are going

[13:38] to look like, you know, in in March or May. Um

[13:45] » well, in the we went to Calder >> Mhm. And it was just starting and right

[13:51] I mean >> I feel like they just did this trip la

[13:57] which I think was last spring because I looked at it for myself. Um it may be

[14:02] helpful to wait at least a year before we do it and we maybe have a better

[14:08] chance of filling a bus at that point. we should go with the visionary and then

[14:14] it's not as weather dependent and not as um

[14:18] you know we could go in March or go and >> I think it's a really different type of

[14:25] museum. >> It is

[14:26] » it's all people are mostly people that have not

[14:31] had >> formal training in art. So it's more

[14:35] that's not good English, but it's it's more diff it's more different than the

[14:41] other places that you >> would normally go.

[14:45] It's a non-tradition. That's what I'm trying to say. It's a very

[14:47] non-traditional >> museum and and just very different.

[14:52] » Well, the other thing is that we deal with outdoor art. So this is all within

[14:57] a mostly 95% of it's within a space. So do we want

[15:01] » some cool outside stuff, too? Do they have enough?

[15:04] » But you still get people thinking when they go in they start thinking, you

[15:09] know, oh yeah, and they're looking and they're looking at and maybe there are a

[15:13] lot of three-dimensional pieces inside, you know. I mean, I don't know if if

[15:18] having things outside there is an issue with security.

[15:23] » You said they have some >> I've seen some things,

[15:25] » but I I you know, um and and then to complement that would be o going over to

[15:30] the Baltimore Museum of Art. So, I mean, I could look into what that would cost

[15:36] and then you guys take it from there. But, I mean, I would probably start at

[15:40] the American Visionary, do that, get the tour, do your little hands-on thing,

[15:45] have lunch, and then end up at the Baltimore. And then

[15:48] » BMA has a a sculpture garden. Yeah. On the side.

[15:51] » Oh, yeah. Yeah. But we can't you can't take a box lunch in there. They have a

[15:56] caf a nice cafe because I asked them about is there a place to eat and they

[16:00] said, "Well, not really outside, you know. I mean, we couldn't have 50 people

[16:04] sitting around eating bag lunches. >> So,

[16:08] » I [laughter] thought they had a restaurant when when I called them

[16:12] » when the first restaurant >> they had a restaurant ability, but it

[16:18] was already booked. >> Yeah. I I don't know how you would do it

[16:21] with that many people. You know, they might It's a lot for 40 people to be

[16:26] walking into a restaurant. >> Yeah.

[16:29] » Um but we could do something at the Visionary.

[16:31] » Yeah. We can bring a bag lunch or you could bring a box lunch like we did

[16:34] before. That's a a sub place. You could order like three types of subs, cookie

[16:39] and water and eat there. >> They're they're willing to let us eat

[16:42] inside. >> So

[16:45] So do we want to go with that one as like taking it down the road a little

[16:49] further?

[16:53] » I mean, >> I kind of feel like that would be the

[16:55] most attractive to people. >> It's something different.

[16:58] » It's just my opinion. I I I I uh the thought of a three-hour bike uh bus ride

[17:05] even to me >> I don't want to do that on a little bus.

[17:09] I'm sorry. >> Well, [laughter] even if it's a big bus,

[17:12] you're sitting for >> Yeah.

[17:14] » 3 hours. And I mean, I know Baltimore is two and a half, but

[17:18] » yeah, it makes a difference. >> Okay. So, if we do the Baltimore two one

[17:25] stop, two stops, we need the price for the big bus and the small bus, right?

[17:29] » We need food options and then the price to get in both of the museums.

[17:34] » All right. And then you want to package it with the activity for $10 a person.

[17:39] » Um, >> why don't we start with that and then if

[17:43] we decide later not to, we can we can take it off.

[17:48] Okay. I I mean it might be too much to try to do the Visionary Art Museum and

[17:52] BMA. BMA could be >> because people want to go in there and

[17:56] spend a couple hours. I mean, you're not going to just do a flyby,

[18:00] » right? So, there might be another smaller museum or something.

[18:04] » Museum. >> Walters.

[18:06] » Oh, Walters. >> Walter. That's That's huge, too.

[18:09] » It is. >> Yeah. It's pretty big.

[18:11] » Part of it then. >> Yeah. Um

[18:13] » I wonder if we could go to Goucher College. I think they have a huge um

[18:18] very um I don't know what the right word is. Edgy art department there.

[18:26] » They do. But do do they have a museum there?

[18:28] » I don't think so. >> I don't know. It just might

[18:33] more aligned with the visionary art. I think if we did some maybe some research

[18:39] there may be some smaller

[18:42] » well and Paul I don't know how he's doing but [clears throat] he also

[18:45] invited us to his studio right >> Paul Daniel

[18:48] » I'm looking at um the website for the Maryland Center for History and Culture

[18:52] and it and I've been in the museum um it's it's it's not the visionary but it

[18:59] it it does have fine art in the collection Um,

[19:07] it's the oldest cultural institution in Maryland, founded in 1844.

[19:13] Um, so there's another option for Baltimore.

[19:18] » How far is it from um, American Visionary?

[19:22] A bus ride >> that I don't know

[19:24] » cuz see that you know when you start doing buses stop to stop Yeah. Right.

[19:29] » cost extra money. But I know and we we have a guest tonight that was on the

[19:33] museum or on that last bus tour, but a lot of the feedback we had was that they

[19:39] liked the fact that we went to two different locations and it was almost

[19:43] contrasting and comparing two very different experiences. And so I I think

[19:48] there's some value in that. >> Is the BMA walkable to the visionary?

[19:54] » No. >> No, that's way on the other side. this

[19:59] one. Where's this one? I don't [clears throat] know Baltimore that

[20:02] well, but um >> you you got to take the bus in.

[20:09] » So, why don't we start with the visionary? And the visionary has a lot

[20:13] to look at. >> Park Avenue, whatever Park Avenue is.

[20:16] » Yeah, it's it's way around on the other side.

[20:19] » Um well, I can actually I can look at what it would take to get into the

[20:24] Baltimore Art Museum. And I mean, it depends. What time do you want to leave?

[20:28] you want to get up there at 10:00 when one opens, you know, do your thing, have

[20:32] lunch. >> We did last time

[20:33] » project and then head over to the other one. Um cuz that will uh you probably

[20:39] want to get out of there at least 4:00, 4 to 5, 5 to 6. So you you know

[20:48] » Baltimore has [laughter] something called graffiti alley

[20:53] » uh that features uh vivid street art and murals by local

[20:58] and visiting artists. >> Really cool to do.

[21:02] » Where is that located? Because there was something next to the American Visionary

[21:06] but I think it closed. There was a building that had um

[21:12] artist work in there. There was something they had, but I didn't see any

[21:15] hours or anything on it. >> I trying to find

[21:21] when we talk to the people of Visionary, >> maybe have some ideas.

[21:27] » That's a good idea. Yeah, I can ask them. They're they're very um receptive.

[21:31] So, would you um put together the budget for this to actually be able to do it

[21:37] and then we can um Is there a time? Is there a time of year

[21:43] that is less busy than other times of year for you?

[21:47] » No, it's just April is is the it's the transition period. So, it's very

[21:51] difficult to >> go back and forth.

[21:52] » Yes. >> So, like March or

[21:55] » Yes. >> But I would still like to keep it so

[21:59] that it's not overpriced for people, you know? I mean, when you when you start

[22:03] going from here to there or there and you know the bus has got to go here and

[22:06] entrance fees, >> you got to look at are we going to price

[22:10] most people out of this? I mean, anything over, you know, $200 to go on a

[22:15] trip, I don't know. You get a box lunch. I mean, you got to think about

[22:18] » Absolutely. We are. And the thing is that we only charge for what we charge.

[22:22] I didn't charge anything $1 more than what we cost last time. So, we don't

[22:26] overcharge. We just charge what it costs. So, we can think about that in

[22:30] our doing it. But, it costs a lot of money these days. Well, the the the

[22:34] other thing is since they're letting at the American Visionary, um they're

[22:38] receptive to us eating there, people could bring their own bag lunch. I mean,

[22:42] if they want to don't want to sub because the sub shop's like right down

[22:46] the street, you know. >> And I mean, some people want a more

[22:50] elevated experience, like they would rather pay $25 more and have a nice

[22:56] lunch so they could go somewhere else, you know? So, there's I think that we

[23:00] shouldn't >> tell people

[23:05] Well, that the only thing is there are restaurants, but when people start going

[23:10] this way and that way and unless you say to them, "We need to be back at the bus

[23:15] at 1:00." >> Well, that's what we say to them.

[23:17] » You have to because otherwise they're going to be sitting down to dinner, you

[23:20] know, and it's they're waiting on the check and whatnot. So,

[23:24] » so I think let's go forward with the visionary since that one seems to be the

[23:28] most interesting. >> Go ahead.

[23:31] One other thought, uh, Micah is right there and they I'm sure they have

[23:35] galleries and >> some interesting buildings.

[23:39] » Maryland Institute. >> The Maryland Institute College of Art.

[23:42] It's one of the top three art schools in the country. I believe

[23:45] » that would be it'd be great. >> So, what type of what month would you

[23:49] think about going on here? >> I would go at the end of March.

[23:52] » End of March. >> Well, we got to look at holidays and

[23:55] what's coming up. >> Or May, maybe.

[23:57] » Yeah. >> I kind of like May. I like too.

[24:00] » I like May. >> May it is.

[24:02] » But, you know, we got to find out from the city. We don't want to be like if

[24:06] something big's going to happen, we don't want to be taken off.

[24:10] » Well, we just have to >> I'll check in.

[24:13] » I can check the calendar. >> Okay.

[24:15] » Okay. >> And are will you do a budget to

[24:21] » like not to fill the bus, but to fill it maybe 80?

[24:25] » Yeah. I mean, I could give I mean, don't don't price it based on 100% of the bus

[24:33] filled. >> We

[24:36] price it on 75% because >> well, and also uh I want someone to

[24:41] double check me to be determined because sometimes my math is not so good. So, I

[24:46] don't want you to say, "Oh, well, she said it was this amount."

[24:48] » Well, then just write per person what it would, you know, like or if we have 45

[24:53] people and this is the amount it is. Yeah, you can send it to me. I will I do

[24:56] lots of math every day. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, that that

[24:58] » I'm a math girl. Who knew? >> Thank you. That's that's that'll help

[25:02] me. But um All right. So, >> so move forward with the visionary.

[25:06] We're thinking May and we're going to do a budget so to see what we have to

[25:10] charge per person. >> Okay.

[25:13] » Is there any other comments about this trip?

[25:19] » Awesome. Thank you for bringing some options.

[25:22] And are we on point here? Okay. check. Um discussion and possible action

[25:27] regarding lantern Lewis lantern festival. So I did a little budget for

[25:33] that. Um the objective is to bring the community.

[25:38] So at our workshop we decided we wanted to do a festival or an event. What we

[25:44] sused out was a lantern festival. Um, and our objective, and please stop

[25:50] me if any of this is not jing, but objective to bring the community

[25:55] together around art. So,

[25:59] we're going to have people making art. We're going to have carrying art. We're

[26:02] going to have people experiencing art. Um, each participant, and I was thinking

[26:06] a hundred max to create a lantern on their own or in one of the four four to

[26:12] five classes that we'll offer. We were hoping to offer the classes in here. Um,

[26:17] we want them to be interesting but low tech.

[26:21] [cough] Over one weekend, we will teach four to

[26:24] five paper lantern making classes for kids and adults.

[26:29] Um, we can use paper to embellish the lantern. Each person can make their own

[26:34] special piece. We will teach different types of paper tearing, cutting,

[26:38] folding, curling, and connecting to there's the the center one is just an a

[26:44] lantern without anything. And then these are options that you could do to create.

[26:50] » So you start with that. >> You start with that. Yes. I did a whole

[26:53] thing with my family which was making the reads and putting paper. Yeah.

[26:58] That's not going to happen in three hours. [laughter]

[27:01] I mean, I have a family who all went to art school and wow, it was a lot. And

[27:06] that was a a six-year-old, a 14-year-old, and then my brother and I.

[27:10] So, I was like, "Oh my god." >> So, we're starting with commercial

[27:13] lanterns and then it's embellishment of commercial lanterns. How expensive are

[27:18] those lanterns? >> Um, well, I have a budget here. For 120

[27:22] lanterns, it's $130. >> It's what?

[27:25] » For 120 lanterns, it's $130. Okay. So that's like I mean we can do it and they

[27:31] get to pick their size. They get to pick whether they want cream color.

[27:35] [clears throat] So it's pretty cheap. And then um the

[27:40] culmination of these classes will be a parade of the lanterns. I was thinking

[27:45] on the 21st, but we might change that um at 6 p.m. So we could walk through town

[27:49] and end at the Canal Front Park and like make a circle or something.

[27:53] » It's a solstice. >> It is the solstice, but we we have to

[27:56] talk about that. Um, so each person would bring their lantern, we'd walk

[28:00] through town, end up in Canalfront Park, and I already talked to Maria Deorest,

[28:04] and she would do photography of it. So that would be super cool.

[28:07] » We'll likely need police support if we're unless we're walking on the

[28:10] sidewalks. >> I was thinking sidewalks, but if we go

[28:13] down the street, that's more fun. >> All right, that that might take a little

[28:17] bit more coordination, but we can talk about that.

[28:19] » Yeah, we can. I mean, sidewalks is fine. Um, do we want to do anything at the end

[28:25] like once you come through? And I'm thinking these might want to be like

[28:28] like you have a stick or you have like a flag pole or something and we all walk

[28:32] through them. >> I um I was thinking make a circle, but I

[28:38] don't know if there's something else some other culmination we want.

[28:40] » What is the What would be the resting stopping place of the lanterns? They

[28:44] just go home with the people or we hang them up? I mean, I was thinking they'd

[28:48] go home with the people and they could put them outside their house for

[28:50] Christmas or holiday. >> Well, we need a Stonehenge. Like, where

[28:54] are we going to get Stonehenge? And but what do we have around here that could

[28:59] be the same idea of what what would be a solstice a solstice activity? How would

[29:06] people um celebrate the shortest night of the year?

[29:12] » Um light. Making light.

[29:15] » What? by making lights. >> Yeah, right. By making lights. But what

[29:19] what would they where would they be gathering? You know, what would what

[29:22] would be happening? So, >> yeah, that's what I was thinking like we

[29:25] all make a circle or something. But I thought the imagery would be so

[29:28] beautiful. >> Oh, it would be beautiful. And having

[29:30] them condensed together would be lovely. >> And how long does the light last for the

[29:35] puck light inside? Is that 3 hours? >> Something like that,

[29:39] » I think. So, >> they can probably last even longer than

[29:41] that. >> Yeah. I mean,

[29:42] » probably with those little disc batteries, right?

[29:44] » Oh, yeah. I I looked at the ones with batteries cuz I was like, I'm not doing

[29:48] this plugin thing cuz >> I can't imagine where we would plug them

[29:52] all in to get them ready. >> Where are we storing them? Between

[29:55] classes. >> Oh, they have to take them home with

[29:57] them. >> Between classes.

[30:00] » Oh, yeah. Okay. Like I'm not in control of your So yeah, we might have to have

[30:05] some plastic bags or something so people can Yes.

[30:10] » Yvon and I >> my name again.

[30:11] » Yes. Yvon Love 33872 Darlington Street. I think you you're asking you're

[30:17] thinking that people are going to multiple classes. They're only attending

[30:20] one. >> Okay.

[30:21] » Yeah. Just one two to three hour class. Thanks.

[30:23] » Yeah. So, yeah. No, not four to five. They have to come.

[30:26] » I thought it was a class. >> I thought one class per person would be

[30:30] better than doing mult because we could do the other thing we No, it's not going

[30:33] to happen. Um let's see. No. Um what would we need? We need two and a half

[30:39] hours each class. I was thinking that they could happen Saturday, two of them.

[30:42] Sunday, two of them if we needed another one Monday, but um and then we'd need

[30:47] volunteers to help, you know, people glue and whatever. Um so everything we

[30:53] would need besides scissors, which I have a bunch of and people could bring

[30:57] their own, and the stick thing would be $578, $600.

[31:05] So it's like $6 a person, which I think is pretty miraculous. quite honestly.

[31:11] And so if we charge $10 a person, which I think is freaking generous,

[31:16] » I can't see the first one. >> So, may I ask a question?

[31:20] » Yes. >> So, the

[31:24] decorations that you have on on it is does that come with it or is that part

[31:29] of the purchase? >> Yeah, that's

[31:31] » Well, no, they have to they're the ones decorating it. So, what you

[31:34] » say again?

[31:38] So you get this in any size and then you can add something simple if you wanted.

[31:45] » So how do they do they bring the simple? You add you add stuff.

[31:50] » I'm bringing all the paper. >> Okay. That's where I'm getting to.

[31:53] » So that's for everything for them. Have a light except for maybe an accessory to

[31:58] hold it which they can decide if they want to just hold it like this.

[32:01] » Okay. Um, but yeah, you could we'll have paper for them like, you know, this is

[32:06] just different weights of paper, you know, and you can be as crazy or as

[32:12] not crazy as you want, you know. That's fun.

[32:16] » What's the light in there? >> It's a puck light.

[32:19] » A what light? >> A puck light.

[32:21] » I don't even know what that is. >> It's just got a little switch, right, to

[32:25] turn it on and off. >> Oh, okay.

[32:27] » You might have one in a closet. Right. >> Well, I have a question. Would there be

[32:32] any place in the city, like down by the canal, that we could hang these up if

[32:36] people just wanted to hang them up overnight?

[32:39] » Well, if it rained, they'd be bye-bye. >> Well, [laughter]

[32:42] » but you know, well, >> I would love people to hang them outside

[32:46] their house and on their porches and then you go through town and you see

[32:49] what people made. But

[32:52] » yeah, >> we could suggest that like everybody

[32:54] hanging on their >> When is when is and if it is going to

[33:01] occur the the the Christmas lights tour.

[33:07] » I don't have a permit for that yet. So I don't know the date.

[33:09] » Okay. I was >> and Okay. So this is the main

[33:12] » bike ride. Oh no, the Christmas tour. That's not through the city.

[33:17] Oh, I was I was thinking maybe that kind of can coincide with the the Christmas

[33:26] » uh the house tour. >> No.

[33:28] » Oh, the lights the that starts like um Thanksgiving weekend and then it goes

[33:32] through Christmas. >> So, we could put it out there.

[33:36] » Yeah, we could say on this date there. Okay. So, Julia said that maybe December

[33:44] is too crazy. What do we think about that?

[33:47] » Just that date, the 21st. It's a week of Christmas.

[33:50] » I just And we also have a parks and wreck meeting that night, which I'm

[33:54] hoping we might not. Um, >> you cancel it.

[33:58] » Yeah. [laughter] >> But what I'm saying is that I just I'm

[34:00] concerned about it being so close to Christmas.

[34:04] » Yeah, that is a concern. So, what would happen if we um utilize these what

[34:11] whenever they're being made for um for the new year like at the

[34:19] overfalls and that night where you bring your pots and pans and you bring your

[34:24] lantern and you that we have a cluster of all of these. So, it would be another

[34:29] time they're used to bring your lanterns, too. I just feel like so many

[34:34] people are away that week >> from a lot of people have plans for New

[34:40] Year's. Although it sounds like a great idea, I'm not sure the participation

[34:47] would be as great. >> I'm not sure what I'm saying.

[34:50] » So, let me ask this question. New Year's or New Year's Eve, there is

[34:57] the dropping of the right >> the ball or whatever anchor

[35:02] » and isn't there quite a few people that are

[35:06] there? >> People.

[35:07] » Yeah, it's not like people are away. It's people are

[35:11] » I'm just saying people have plans >> for New Year's

[35:16] » and I'm not sure that they're going to >> make their plans to be in a lantern.

[35:23] I like the excuse me I I this is very greedy of me but I like the idea of us

[35:31] doing it alone for us and I'm I like the idea of the solstice but

[35:40] I'm not super committed to it. I think if we picked a date like December 10th

[35:45] or 12th it's far enough ahead of Christmas

[35:49] and we could still make a statement. But I I just think if we did something on

[35:55] New Year's or part of the It It dilutes what we're trying to do.

[36:02] » What about the Christmas parade through town?

[36:04] » No, no, no, no. >> Okay. You don't want it to be a part of

[36:08] » No, it's not. It's not our special event. I understand what you're saying.

[36:12] » Hold on. Susan's talking. >> Oh, I I I have to say I I agree with

[36:17] Denise. I I like the idea of doing it earlier in December so it becomes pack

[36:25] focused but then we give people all these opportunities of where they can

[36:31] participate in what's going on in the town in December. So, the idea would be

[36:38] people will put it on their porch or in their window uh to display and then if

[36:44] they want to take it into the parade or the New Year's or the solstice or

[36:48] whatever, they can they can use it for those purposes and have multiple places

[36:54] to take it.

[36:57] I guess I'm kind of hung up on the moon, but maybe I should get over it.

[37:02] [laughter] Um I don't know. I just think that the idea of like it happening

[37:08] with the solstice is kind of >> Yeah,

[37:11] » there's a point to that. Yes. >> Yeah.

[37:14] » Um

[37:17] » Ivon Love 33872 Darlington. I'm remembering the rules. Um I would just

[37:23] echo that. I think that it preeds the holidays and it's also

[37:28] non-denominational and I think that that the idea of a gathering for the

[37:33] community that um is about is about the shift in light and the change of the

[37:38] season is very different than a the some of the established holidays. Um, and I

[37:44] also think because it's far enough in front of Christmas, it doesn't smoosh

[37:49] into it and actually might be exciting to kind of kick off the holiday season.

[37:53] » Yeah. And it is when everybody kind of has off like schools and teachers start

[37:57] having off so they could actually participate.

[38:00] » You mean on the 21st? >> Yeah. They have off that week usually,

[38:05] right? I'm I'm pretty sure that this year.

[38:07] » No, the original idea had been part of the solstice.

[38:10] » Yeah. celebrate the soul. >> Christmas Eve is the 24th on Thursday.

[38:15] Christmas this year is >> I mean it's insane to put something on

[38:18] that week. I agree. >> Also, Heidi is um you know there's going

[38:23] to be some people that take these home and we're never going to see them again.

[38:26] » Yeah, that's what >> So they won't I know but they won't come

[38:28] back for the second part to finish the finale. I mean there are people going to

[38:32] go home and say I'm done with it. You know

[38:35] » I mean but I I have zero cares about that. If they what they did was come

[38:38] with the process. Great. If what they did was come with the parade and they

[38:42] made their thing at home, great. If what they did was made one at home and didn't

[38:47] ever bring it to us, all good outcomes. Every one of those outcomes I give us a

[38:52] 10 out of 10 because someone participated in our participated in some

[38:56] of our thing and was inspired by us. We are winning.

[38:59] » And is it possible like when they come in, we could maybe have them sign in and

[39:03] give their email address >> or if they um

[39:06] » when they sign up and that way we can do a follow-up. Okay, today tonight we're

[39:11] meeting down at somewhere. Bring your lantern. Blah blah blah.

[39:14] » We could have a thing as a reminder. >> Definitely. Definitely.

[39:17] » Yeah. And um so how against the 21st are you?

[39:22] » It's not me. It's totally up to whatever you guys want to do.

[39:25] » Are you sure? >> Yeah.

[39:26] » Um and we did Can we reserve the this room for two days?

[39:30] » Which days? >> The two days before the 19th and the

[39:33] 20th. Saturday and Sunday. >> That I will have to check on.

[39:36] » Okay. I know Sunday we reserved it. Yeah, I talked to you about this

[39:42] » Sunday. >> You promised.

[39:44] » So, see if we can do Saturday and Sunday. And we would do just like tables

[39:48] and then chairs around and we would put stuff over the tables so they'd be nice

[39:52] and protected so we are not being messy. Haha. Yes, we are. Um, and then we'll

[39:56] have glue guns and glue and we'll help people out. And Yavon and her husband

[40:02] Dave said they would do some. I don't know if Deb wants to do some. I could do

[40:05] some. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah,

[40:08] » Ivon love 33872 Darlington. >> I when we talked about it, I didn't

[40:13] realize that the kids were off from school on Monday

[40:16] » and so that's why I had suggested Saturday. Yeah.

[40:19] » So I >> Oh, you think Sunday and Monday could

[40:21] actually >> during the day. I just think that the

[40:24] that I think that the the tight schedule um creates an energy and especially

[40:29] people making that day will be really excited to come out that night.

[40:32] » Okay. >> What about Friday? What if we did Friday

[40:35] and Saturday before Christmas? >> Uh, well, I feel like that's where

[40:40] Christmas parties happen and all those things. So, I feel like sat sat Sunday

[40:44] and Monday um are actually >> like not as used days and and I mean,

[40:51] » you know, like this is the last thing I want to do as an elf. Like I am full elf

[40:56] mode. So, like I am fully going outside of what is sanity in my world to teach

[41:02] two classes and then be in a parade. But I know that we talked about the lantern

[41:06] parade and I am obviously committed to it. So, if we want to do it, I am 100%

[41:11] committed to this lantern idea. We just need to make it happen. And I think it

[41:16] could be super cool if we all walk through town with this light lighting

[41:20] and everybody can do it. It does not matter if you are a beginning, middle,

[41:23] end, artist, never done anything in the their life.

[41:27] We are here and it doesn't matter if it looks it doesn't matter. We want it to

[41:33] actually the process is the point. >> What if we involved correct art and

[41:39] bloom and Lewis and Bloom >> I mean I think we need to get to them

[41:44] early to publicize it among their membership. Yes, we are. Absolutely.

[41:49] » You're not planting flowers then. >> I know that. But they didn't they didn't

[41:54] share the information about our our >> Well, a lot of organizations will not

[42:00] share or any information from other organizations because they're

[42:03] gatekeeping, but that is not always true. So, we could Yes, I think they

[42:09] some organizations say they won't. >> I think that's silly.

[42:11] » I agree. But if there are collaborators on projects as far as I'm concerned

[42:18] » and also I do think that they would be interested in it and I think that they

[42:21] would want to participate in it. So hopefully they would share all of the

[42:24] information and it will be in the paper and it will be

[42:27] » and I think we could easily get a 100 people excited about this.

[42:31] » I don't think it would be a problem at all.

[42:33] » I think it the problem would be holding people back and Okay. How does everybody

[42:37] feel about $10? >> That's good. That's a good price. I

[42:40] mean, I don't think you can do anything for less than $10.

[42:43] And we could have like 10 schol uh 10 scholarships if people

[42:50] say call and say they can't 10 scholarships available or something.

[42:55] » Heidi, when you advertise, will you have a couple samples of your lantern so

[42:58] people get >> get an idea what

[43:01] » Yeah, we can take pictures of those. I'm not making any more lanterns before now

[43:05] and Christmas, just so you all know. Um, okay. So, and there would be a

[43:13] charge for the photographer most likely, too. Um, so that would probably be in

[43:18] the $10, but we have $4. >> Are all the lanterns going to be the

[43:21] same size or they got big and small? >> Different sizes, so people

[43:24] [clears throat] can choose. And I And there'll be a few extra if somebody like

[43:27] decides they want to do two or whatever. >> What about colors?

[43:31] » No. >> No. All white. All white. Okay. Well, I

[43:34] just think that would be a gorgeous image, you know, at in night time.

[43:39] » Oh, just curious. >> Yeah, off-white and white. [laughter]

[43:44] » We have a a range of >> better, too.

[43:47] » And when you illuminate them, you can see different. It comes out differently,

[43:51] » different shades, the light. Yeah. >> Okay. So, Julia, are you going to see

[43:57] those dates through for me? See if you can email those. Um, yeah. Yes. Thank

[44:02] you so much. We will make it as painfree as possible.

[44:06] Um, and okay, now we are on to

[44:10] » You're thinking these workshops are 2hour, threehour workshops.

[44:16] » Um, I said two and a half. >> Okay.

[44:20] » Yes. Come to the the front. >> Mary Linda knows the protocol

[44:29] and I hope everybody will participate in the lanterns.

[44:32] » Mhm. Mary Linda Maddie, 510 Railroad Avenue, Lewis. Um, I I think the sticks

[44:38] might be a problem. I mean, you have to worry about people running into each

[44:43] other and if you have kids >> beating other children with [laughter]

[44:46] them. >> Just a cons a safety consideration

[44:50] because I think you can hold them like this without a stick, right? Just hold

[44:54] because they're light enough. >> Yes, you could. I mean, some people

[44:57] might bring them, but maybe won't promote it that way. But I would just

[45:01] say think about sticks. >> Yeah.

[45:03] » Okay. >> Okay. Thank you.

[45:06] » I love that. >> Thanks.

[45:10] » So it'll either be Saturday, Sunday, or Sunday, Monday.

[45:14] And we can do >> And then what day is

[45:17] » the 21st? It's a Monday. >> I'll be happy to help you.

[45:20] » I can help. >> Awesome.

[45:22] » If we if we're able to do Monday that I mean you you could schedule the

[45:27] workshops. So one is an evening and one is a day.

[45:31] » We can't do evening. We have p We have >> parks and wreck here.

[45:35] » Yes. >> And what time does that start?

[45:37] » 51st. >> So we could do till like 3.

[45:42] » Okay. >> Yeah.

[45:46] » So maybe Saturday, Sunday would be better if we're not if we're jamming up

[45:49] with something. Would you look at all three of those and tell me which is

[45:52] better? Thank you very much. Okay. So, we're all excited about Lantern

[45:57] Festival. That's going to be so fun. And also, how will we get to pay?

[46:03] I know. It's so fun. >> We can set it up on um Civic Plus.

[46:08] » Okay. I have another question. When should we start promoting this?

[46:12] » Immediately. >> Oh, I love that answer. Thank you.

[46:17] » Okay. Yes. So, >> September one.

[46:20] » Wait until you get the dates from me. I'll check the dates. Okay. But then,

[46:23] yes. Okay. Perfect. The next thing we have on the

[46:28] agenda is Oops, sorry. Um, we're we are in the process of putting

[46:35] up a a mural on the outside of this building.

[46:40] The concept sketch is well, this is a pretty confirmed concept

[46:46] sketch

[46:49] because he's done multiple. So we're at the stage of

[46:55] actually that's not but pretty close. Um so this is happening.

[47:00] We are funding a third of it along with Lewis and Bloom and um the trains

[47:09] David and I don't know Lewis Junction Bridge and Railroad Association.

[47:13] » How are we supposed to remember that? Um, so and Michael Rossado, who did the

[47:18] mural on this side, is also going to do the mural on this side. He is such a

[47:22] professional. He's amazing. Um, he's very excited about it. And it will

[47:27] probably be end of October, install, beginning of November. So, right around

[47:32] end of end of October, beginning of November.

[47:35] » So, that's fun. And we have done our part, so we can check that right off the

[47:41] list. Um, so there's nothing really to talk

[47:44] about with that. It's already in the works. He's got his down payment and

[47:49] we're moving forward. >> So that's cool that this is going to

[47:52] also be another 250 celebration within the calendar year that it goes up out

[47:58] here. That's cool. That's very cool. >> We should probably do some type of

[48:02] opening or something. Um,

[48:07] » you c you can also make sure it's added to the lowest 250

[48:13] » um.com website so that >> we can get as much

[48:18] » um participation in >> you know

[48:23] as possible >> when we're going to get it. Um, oh, and

[48:28] our last thing is, do we like this timing for our meeting?

[48:34] So, Susan is the one person who said that the other time would absolutely not

[48:37] work. Is there do we want to just keep this time because it works? Uh, for me

[48:42] right now, I'm going to have to keep the time because I'm going to be

[48:45] volunteering uh mentoring at the high school

[48:48] » and I haven't got my time yet and it could be a morning. It's usually during

[48:52] their advisory and I don't know the date or the times and I'll know in October

[48:57] probably the second week. >> Is everybody still okay with this time?

[49:01] » You're okay with this one. You like morning better and then I think steeped

[49:06] it. Well, we'll keep this for now and then we can keep talking about if we

[49:09] want to change it. Um and then next um >> sailing on Wednesday nights anymore.

[49:14] » You're not. >> Um

[49:16] » too many complex. >> Too many what?

[49:19] » I said too many complex. Sorry. Um, so the next meeting we will discuss posies

[49:26] and then we'll do the bus

[49:29] » update on the update on the art bus trip >> and the lantern festival. And is there

[49:34] anything else that we >> Well, I got something on the agenda in

[49:37] the very beginning. It was um a link if you look uh to the visionary world of

[49:44] imagination. And this is a free um program sponsored

[49:50] by the American uh visionary art museum. And this guy,

[49:55] the artist does a lot of funky things. And they're going to talk about his

[49:59] work. Uh Mr. Gregory Warmarmac. He's self-taught visionary and he's Mr.

[50:06] Imagination, renown for transformingforming

[50:10] the junk and trash of everyday life into intricate sculptures and furniture.

[50:16] So, if anybody can sign up for that, maybe we could post it on our website

[50:20] and it's, you know, kind of goes along with the idea of a visit to the American

[50:26] Visionary Art Museum. >> That'd be great.

[50:29] » Um, and a lot of our artwork over the years

[50:33] has been from upcycled work, so it kind of fits in with our

[50:37] » nonprofit. Certainly. >> Yeah. Okay. So,

[50:43] when is our next meeting? just so I can say it out loud. And September,

[50:51] » when's our next meeting? >> The 23rd.

[50:54] » 23rd. >> Okay. September 23rd at 5:30.

[50:58] » September 23rd. >> Okay. Um I Anybody for public comment?

[51:06] Anything? Susan, since you're on the web, I feel like we forget you.

[51:11] » Oh. Uh is is the um is the art outside is that the final

[51:21] version of the um Brazada artwork? >> Um no, there are a few changes since

[51:28] then. Um, >> I guess my only comment is that

[51:34] » since this display attracts so many children,

[51:39] it might be nice to think about having more than one tiny child in that's in

[51:46] the background. >> Um, I think we have made sure there's at

[51:50] least one child, but we really couldn't fit more than that. There is a little

[51:54] bit more going on in the final one. And there is a a cow mover skirt on the

[52:01] train, >> which is not my favorite thing to think

[52:04] about, but >> cow catcher.

[52:05] » Cow catcher. >> Cow catcher. Yeah.

[52:06] » Yeah. But I um Yeah. I don't think we can go back and add much to this cuz he

[52:12] has come down and met with

[52:16] those breakwater train people. Um so sorry Susan,

[52:23] but we do have one. >> It was just a stop. I'd like to

[52:27] » Yeah. And um and we do have Lewis a little bit more prominently in the final

[52:33] sketch. So that is um that's good too. We have a a sign that says Lewis. So

[52:40] okay. Um I would like to um call for motion to adjurnn.

[52:48] » So moved. >> I move that we adjourn.

[52:51] » I second. >> All in favor? Hi

[52:56] » thank

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