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- Good afternoon, everyone.
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It is four o'clock on August the 13th.
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I am calling this afternoon's meeting to order.
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My name's Michael Cass.
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I am serving as zoning administrator this afternoon.
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We will start with a civility statement.
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So I wanna quickly read.
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As your appointed governing body,
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we will treat each other and the public
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with patience, civility, and courtesy
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as a model of the same behavior
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we wish to reflect in Martinez
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for the conduct of all city business
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and community participation.
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This includes respect for everyone's First Amendment right
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to voice their opinion on matters
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within the city's subject matter jurisdiction,
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even if that opinion is different from our own.
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The decisions made will be for the benefit
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of the Martinez community and not for personal gain.
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So I'd next like to move on to public comment.
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This is for public comment for items
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that are not on the agenda.
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So non-agenda public comment is limited to matters
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which are within the subject matter jurisdiction
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of the zoning administrator
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and which are not action items listed elsewhere.
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If you'd like to make a comment,
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please use the raise your hand feature.
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And I am seeing one hand raised.
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Earl, you can unmute yourself.
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- [Earl] No, that was an error.
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- Okay, we will then talk to you very shortly then.
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Thank you, Earl.
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Is there anyone else who wishes
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to make a public comment
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on an item not on today's agenda?
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Great.
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Seeing none, we'll now move on to our public hearing items.
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We're gonna start with the request
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for a conditional use permit for 700 Court Street.
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Brandon, if you could please give a presentation.
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(no audio)
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- [Speaker] You need to unmute.
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- Thank you. Thank you.
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So I'm Senior Planner Brandon Northart,
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here this afternoon to present
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the conditional use permit for 700 Court Street.
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So some quick background on the project.
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It's located again at 700 Court Street.
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The general plan designation is Downtown Core.
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It's located in the Central Commercial Zoning District.
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It is also subject and located
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within the Downtown Historic Overlay District
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and the downtown specific plan area.
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The lot size is approximately 37,000 square feet.
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It is currently a vacant commercial structure,
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and the surrounding uses
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are predominantly commercial and civic.
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So the proposed project boiled down
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is to relocate the existing
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Aladdin Bail Bonds from 836 Main Street
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over on the corner of Main and Las Juntas
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to have a conditional use permit to relocate the business
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on the ground floor at 700 Court Street.
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So again, just to clarify,
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this would not be a net new bail bonds.
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This would just be a relocation of an existing one.
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So the zoning code specifically requires
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a conditional use permit for bail bond shops
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on or above the second floor
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that do not have frontage on Main Street or Ferry Street.
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However, the applicant is proposing to relocate the business
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but would not establish a new one.
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Staff are supportive because the project
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would relocate the existing one at 836 Main Street
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which does have a more prominent
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ground floor location along Main Street
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compared to the subject site
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which would result in freeing up a tenant space
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for more compatible commercial business at the location.
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It would also result in the bail bond shop
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being located closer to the
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Contra Costa Courthouse and Jail,
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which are a more compatible use with the bail bonds.
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In addition, like I mentioned,
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the project is located
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within the Downtown Historic Overlay District
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and the downtown specific plan area,
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but the project's not proposing
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any exterior modifications to the structure,
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so none of the provisions
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in either of those instances apply here.
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There are several conditions of approval on the project,
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but I just wanted to quickly highlight two of them.
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The first one is related to signage.
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So at this time, the applicant's not proposing any signage
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to be a part of this approval.
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So we have included a condition that ensures
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that if any signage is proposed in the future,
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that it comes through the planning division
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and is consistent with any applicable
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planning and zoning standards.
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And we've also included a building permit condition.
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Again, there are no interior, exterior revisions
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or tenant improvements proposed at this time.
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So in the event that there are
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in the future that the property owner and applicant
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consult with the planning and building divisions
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to ensure that any future improvements
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comply with our city building code and procedures.
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So in order to approve the conditional use permit,
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several findings need to be made, which are found here.
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But just to quickly summarize,
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staff are supportive in making the required findings
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because the use is compatible with the surrounding area,
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would occupy an existing vacant tenant commercial structure,
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free up another more prominent one,
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and would not pose a hazard to health and safety.
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So with that, today's recommendation is
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to conduct a public hearing
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and adopt zoning administrator resolution number 26-19,
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approving a request from Eduardo Garcia
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to consider a conditional use permit
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to establish a bail bond shop on the ground floor
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located at 700 Court Street
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in the Central Commercial Zoning District,
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assessor's parcel number 373266001-8,
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subject to conditions of approval.
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With that, I am happy to take any questions,
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but I believe both the property owner and applicant
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are here as well.
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- Thank you very much, Brandon, for the presentation.
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I have a quick question,
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which actually is probably better suited
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for the applicant and property owner,
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so feel free to allow them to answer it.
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I thought there was a juice business that was still there.
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So do you know when they officially left the space?
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And again, I can direct that to the property owner
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if that's more appropriate.
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- I'll default to the property owner.
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- Okay. Great.
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- [Earl] They're on a month-to-month basis
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why they get their plans approved
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for their future space in another city.
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- Okay.
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Appreciate that, Earl.
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Eduardo and Earl, the floor is yours.
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If there's anything that you would like to
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add to present for your application
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in addition to the comments
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that were presented by the project planner.
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- [Earl] I'm good with everything
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you guys have presented here this afternoon.
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I think you've pretty much covered the basis of everything.
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So unless Ed from Aladdin has anything,
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I don't have any more to add.
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- [Eduardo] Same here.
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Feel like we've covered everything that we needed to.
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I think everything's pretty straightforward.
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- Well, thank you both very much.
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Just one additional question,
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confirming that you both had a chance
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to review the draft resolution
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and recommended conditions of approval.
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I just wanna confirm that you have no issues.
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- [Earl] We have, as building owner, has no issues.
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- [Eduardo] As applicant, we have no issues.
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- Great.
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Well, thank you very much, appreciate that.
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I'd now like to open this matter up
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to members of the public.
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Any member of the public
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who wishes to comment on this application,
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please use the raise your hand feature
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located at the bottom of your screen.
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Seeing none, we'll now close
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the public portion of the meeting.
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And just wanna indicate that I find myself
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agreeing with
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staff on the recommendations
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and can support the conditional use permit
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for many of the reasons that were outlined,
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particularly since this is an established business
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that has compatibility with the court
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and being relocated closer to the courthouse
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I think makes sense.
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It's not a net increase potentially
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of this type of use within the downtown.
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And then also just supportive,
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particularly since this business is currently open 24/7,
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and just the vitality that that can add to the downtown.
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So I am prepared to support staff's recommendation,
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and I move to adopt resolution number 26-19,
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approving the conditional use permit
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subject to conditions of approval as outlined by staff.
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My decision is appealable.
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Anyone can appeal this decision in a 10-day period.
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If you're interested in doing so, please contact Brandon.
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And then Eduardo and Earl, congratulations to you both.
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If you have additional questions after today's meeting,
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please reach out to Brandon,
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but we will send you a formal approval packet
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in the next day or so.
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Congratulations.
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- [Earl] Thank you.
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- [Eduardo] Thank you so much.
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Appreciate it.
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- Great, so now moving on
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to the next item on today's agenda,
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which is 103 Escobar Street.
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This is for a variance and minor exception.
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This item was heard at a previous meeting
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and was continued to this afternoon.
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I'm going to turn it over to Brandon Northart,
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who is representing the project on behalf of Imanol Tovar
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who had a conflict today.
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Brandon.
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- Thank you, Michael.
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Again, I'm Senior Planner Brandon Northart
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here this afternoon on behalf of Imanol Tovar
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to present the variance and minor exception request
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for a 103 Escobar Street project.
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So I will be covering some duplicative information
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that was covered by Imanol in his last presentation,
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but there is some new information in here
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that I'll gloss over as well.
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So, most of you know
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the project is located at 103 Escobar Street.
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It's located in the R-6.0 Single-Family Zoning District.
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The lot size is approximately 5,200 square feet.
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It is currently occupied by a single family residence
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and is predominantly surrounded
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by other single family residences as well.
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So some background on this project.
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So the project was presented, as stated by Michael,
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on July 23rd, 2026 to the zoning administrator.
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During that time, there were several public commenters
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who shared concerns about the project's
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height, scale, massing,
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and some existing overgrowth at the site.
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Based on this feedback,
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the zoning administrator
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did not approve or deny the project,
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but instead decided to continue that to today.
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The zoning administrator also requested
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that the applicant meet with neighbors
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to discuss their concerns, provide additional exhibits,
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and potentially install story poles
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to show the height of the proposed structure,
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consider other modifications to the project,
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as well as prune the overgrown vegetation
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at the corner of Bayview and Escobar.
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Since then the applicant and architect
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actually had a meeting with some of the neighbors
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on August 7th.
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The vegetation on the corner has been pruned,
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but there are no changes proposed
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at this time to the project
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compared to when it was presented earlier in July.
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So, again, no changes to the project,
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but just kind of going over everything again
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so everybody's on the same page.
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So the scope of work is to construct
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an approximately 1,782 square foot addition
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to the existing single-family residence,
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which would add a garage, two bedrooms,
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and two bathrooms to the home.
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And in total, the new home would total 3,307 square feet.
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So just showing the proposed elevations here,
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so you can see the rear elevation on the left
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and then the front elevation on the right.
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The front elevation would be the elevation
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when viewing it straight on from Escobar.
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And one thing I wanted to provide
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additional clarification on
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compared to the last time this was presented is
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this is not a two-story addition.
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This project is primarily a split level project
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as we would like to call it.
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So it's predominantly a single story project
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with an addition and conversion to the lower floor
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which I believe is currently a basement
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in conversion to be a garage
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as well as additional residence area.
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And I'll kind of cover that a little bit
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in a couple slides too.
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These are the side elevations.
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So the top elevation would be the elevation
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where the height and massing of the structure
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would be largest,
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and that would be down slope from Escobar to the east.
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And then the bottom elevation here
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would be the elevation along Bayview Drive.
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And again, it is a single story from that elevation.
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Here are the floor plans.
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So the floor plans on the left would be
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the single story or the first floor of the structure.
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And the floor plan on the right would be that split level
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where the basement would be converted
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to a garage and guest room.
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So the applicant prepared a couple of additional
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renderings and elevation comparisons for staff,
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which I'm presenting here.
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So these graphics are a little busy,
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so just trying to demonstrate a little bit more.
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So the blue lines you see are...
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This is from Bayview Drive,
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the elevation from Bayview Drive side elevation.
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So the blue lines are the existing roof line
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where the top of the structure currently is,
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and the red line would be the roof line
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at its tallest point in the proposed addition.
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And again, the total addition
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is approximately five feet in height,
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compared to existing.
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Similarly, this is the front elevation along Escobar.
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So you can see the blue line
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is the existing height of the structure and roof line
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where the red line is the total top.
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And one thing I would also like to add
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is that the structure does total approximately 27 feet,
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which is taller than what would normally be allowed
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at 25 feet.
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But that is mainly due to the topographical
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challenges and slope of Escobar Street
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where the city requires that the total height of a structure
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is measured from its most lowest point
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to wherever it lines at its tallest point,
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which just so happens to be
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at the center line of this house,
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which makes it measure higher than
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what would probably be of the first floor.
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Again, some just additional context
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showing the slope of Escobar Street.
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The image on the left, you can see,
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again, facing towards the house,
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Escobar naturally has a steep grade
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rising from east to west.
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And then the bottom image you can see
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on the other side of Escobar going up,
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you can see that there's a natural slope
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that results in a lot of the homes being different heights
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depending on their alignment with Escobar
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and the natural slope and topography,
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which naturally results
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in a lot of the homes already existing
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to be significantly taller
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than what would otherwise be allowed
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under the 25-foot height limit.
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So you can see how the project complies with
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and compares to the existing condition
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and complies with our various zoning requirements.
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As you can tell,
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there are several variances being requested,
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including for front setbacks, side yard setbacks,
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rear setbacks, lot coverage, FAR,
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and the applicant is also requesting a minor exception
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as it relates to height.
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So since the applicant's requesting a variance these
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findings need to be made.
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As previously referenced,
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the staff believes all the findings
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can be affirmatively made.
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There are other neighboring properties
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in the vicinity of the project that are also inconsistent
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with several of the development standards
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in the R-6.0 zoning district,
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including floor area ratio, lot coverage, and setbacks.
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In addition, minor exception findings need to be made.
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Again, staff believe that the height increase
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would not pose a detrimental impact
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to the site and adjacent properties
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and comply with the intent of the zoning district.
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And there's supporting evidence
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that several of the other properties
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in the surrounding vicinity
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also do not comply with the height standards.
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So the project did receive one public comment
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prior to the previous zoning administrator meeting.
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That comment did express some concerns,
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but didn't necessarily oppose or support the project.
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And then we have received
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one additional written public comment since then,
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before this meeting, in support of the project.
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And since then, we've received
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several additional inquiries about the project,
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but no other official written public comments
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have been received other than those stated here.
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So just wanted to highlight one notable
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recommended condition of approval related to landscaping.
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So staff are recommending
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that the applicant prepare a landscape plan
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with the intent of creating some additional screening
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along the adjacent property owner property line
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that would help eliminate and reduce some of the massing
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and privacy concerns that adjacent neighbors might have.
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So with that, today's staff's recommendation
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is to conduct a public hearing
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and adopt zoning administrator resolution number 26-18,
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approving a request from Tony and Tiffany Chantri
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to consider a variance to,
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one, reduce the required rear yard setback
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from 25 feet to 20 feet,
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reduce the required side yard setback
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from five feet to three feet,
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reduce the required front yard setback
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from 20 feet to five feet,
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increase the maximum lot coverage from 40% to 45%,
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and increase the maximum floor area ratio from 0.5 to 0.58,
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and a minor exception to increase the building height
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to 27 feet and seven inches where 25 feet is permitted
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to construct a 1,782 square foot addition
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to the existing single-family residence
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for a total of 3,037 square feet
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located at Escobar Street in the R-6.0 Zoning District,
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assessor parcel number 372072010-5.
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With that, I am happy to answer any additional questions,
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and I believe that the applicant and property owner
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are here as well if there are any questions for them.
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- Great. Thank you, Brandon.
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I do have a couple of questions for you.
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So I did read the packet
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and did read the additional public comment letter
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that was submitted and included as part of the packet.
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Can you just orient me with Susie and John Gardenal
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where they reside in relationship to the proposed project?
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- Yeah, I can share my screen again really quickly.
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So they are the adjacent neighbor down slope.
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Here, I believe this is their residence.
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- Okay and the condition of approval
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about the landscape screening
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is between their two properties, correct?
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- Correct.
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- And then sort of related, not fully related.
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At the last meeting, there was a concern that was expressed
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regarding the vegetation
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that is going into the utility lines,
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but I didn't see any recommendations
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with conditions of approval regarding that matter.
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Did I miss it?
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I just wanna confirm.
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- No, there weren't any significant
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alterations to the conditions of approval.
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Staff would be happy to add that though upon your request.
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- And then last question for you, Brandon.
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At this time, just to confirm, you alluded to it,
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but I just wanna make sure it's abundantly clear.
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So at this point, the applicant has
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met with some of the neighbors.
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They've included the additional exhibit
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that's clarifying the proposed height differential,
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but no other changes to the project at this time.
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- Correct. - Okay.
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I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
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Would now like to open it up
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to the applicant and architect
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if you would like to make a presentation.
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- I've also elevated Kirk Shelby as well.
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He's the architect.
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- Can you hear us okay? - Yes.
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- [Kirk] Mr. Chantri and I are together in my office.
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So Mr. Chantri will make just a brief statement.
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- [Tony] Yeah.
[21:34]
Thank you for hosting this and everything.
[21:37]
I appreciate it.
[21:40]
I wasn't at the original meeting.
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My understanding of the original meeting was the safety
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because of some trees on the corner.
[21:48]
They have since been removed,
[21:51]
and the height of the vegetation has been cut down on that.
[21:55]
The other other thing that was brought up,
[21:59]
from what I understand,
[22:00]
was people up in the cul-de-sac
[22:02]
thought it was a two-story instead of a single-story.
[22:06]
And since that's been clarified,
[22:08]
my understanding is that everything is fine there.
[22:12]
Our next door neighbor that you talked about,
[22:14]
originally, she though, from her bedroom,
[22:19]
that the building was gonna be three feet from her bedroom.
[22:22]
That was not correct, and that has been remedied.
[22:28]
And also she has written a letter in favor of the project.
[22:34]
Our neighbors across the street,
[22:36]
Tim, who's directly across the street,
[22:38]
he looks straight on towards the front of the house
[22:44]
in compliance with it.
[22:46]
He's in favor.
[22:48]
Since then, we also did a laser shot
[22:52]
to establish the height of the roof and everything.
[22:55]
And the people up above on Bayview
[23:00]
their view with the height of our proposed addition,
[23:07]
they still can see the shell.
[23:10]
They can see the courthouse.
[23:12]
They can see the bridge.
[23:14]
They can see the river.
[23:16]
So I don't believe that it impairs their view,
[23:20]
and I would appreciate
[23:22]
if we can just get this project up and moving.
[23:25]
It's been a long one,
[23:26]
and we'd like to just get it going.
[23:28]
I think the concerns have been taken care of.
[23:33]
Thank you.
[23:38]
Do you have anything?
[23:40]
- [Kirk] You guys get all that?
[23:42]
- We did.
[23:43]
Kirk, did you have anything that you wanted to add?
[23:45]
- [Kirk] No, I think he...
[23:47]
I was present at the meeting.
[23:48]
There was, I think, five, maybe six residents
[23:53]
of the surrounding people that came.
[23:56]
Three expressed some concerns
[23:59]
and maintained expressing concerns.
[24:02]
Two of them were with respect to view projection,
[24:06]
and another one was concerned about
[24:08]
encroachment on setbacks.
[24:11]
We talked to them.
[24:14]
Tony like I said,
[24:16]
he's laser shot at.
[24:18]
He put up a story pole
[24:19]
because the roof is not very safe
[24:23]
to be walking around on
[24:24]
to construct anything more than that.
[24:27]
But he did put up a pole that runs up to the height
[24:31]
so that at least from visual standpoint,
[24:33]
you can stand someplace and see.
[24:35]
You have to kind of use your imagination to extend that line
[24:38]
to its full extent, but you can...
[24:42]
I think you can hopefully understand what's going on.
[24:46]
That's all we could do at the current time.
[24:50]
Other than that,
[24:53]
we believe that,
[24:56]
that the scope of the project is reasonable
[24:59]
in that it was a two-bedroom, one-bath,
[25:00]
1,300 square foot house.
[25:02]
It's now a three-bedroom, well, four bedroom
[25:05]
if you count the downstairs guest/ADU.
[25:09]
Four bedroom, three bath.
[25:12]
The upstairs is three bedrooms, two baths.
[25:16]
So it seems to be in a range that is
[25:19]
consistent with the surrounding neighborhood
[25:22]
in terms of floor area.
[25:25]
And the original roof was 8 and 12.
[25:29]
We took down to 6 and 12.
[25:31]
We didn't feel we could take it down farther
[25:34]
just because we're trying to maintain a certain look.
[25:38]
- And clarifying, going down to 6 and 12,
[25:41]
that's what you did with the original design that-
[25:43]
- [Kirk] Yes, yes.
[25:45]
- Thank you.
[25:47]
And then I just wanna allow Tiffany,
[25:49]
if you have any comments that you wanted to make.
[25:52]
- [Tony] Tiffany is out of town.
[25:54]
I apologize for that,
[25:55]
but she already was scheduled to be out of town.
[25:57]
- Okay.
[25:58]
She's on Zoom, so that's why.
[26:01]
- [Tony] Oh, okay.
[26:03]
She was catching a flight,
[26:04]
so I'm surprised she's on it, to be honest about it.
[26:06]
- [Kirk] Yeah, she unmutes and talks.
[26:09]
We're all for it.
[26:12]
- Well, not hearing her unmute.
[26:16]
Thank you both for the presentation.
[26:18]
I do want to now open it up to members of the public,
[26:22]
but I might circle back with you.
[26:25]
- Thank you. - So anyone who wishes
[26:26]
to speak on this item,
[26:28]
please use the raise your hand feature
[26:30]
located at the bottom of the screen.
[26:33]
And if you're calling via phone,
[26:34]
if you can please use star nine to raise your hand.
[26:39]
I'd like to start with Ray Gallagher
[26:43]
is the firsthand I've seen.
[26:46]
Ray, you may unmute yourself.
[26:49]
- [Ray] Okay.
[26:49]
Can you hear me now?
[26:51]
- Yes.
[26:52]
- [Ray] Yes. Okay.
[26:53]
Well, I'm Ray Gallagher.
[26:54]
I'm Rose Billecci Santos' son-in-law and...
[26:59]
The concern that Philip and Rose had
[27:03]
with the single-story pole
[27:06]
was that there was just
[27:09]
exactly just one story pole.
[27:12]
If it's possible to have
[27:15]
a second or third story pole just added to,
[27:21]
to show the projection of the roof ridge lines,
[27:26]
I suppose, to give them a little better comfort
[27:30]
or understanding of the visual site.
[27:34]
I suppose that's the first concern.
[27:42]
I know this may be out of the timeline,
[27:47]
but because this project is in the high fire severity zone
[27:54]
and the reduction of the setbacks, the side setbacks,
[27:59]
well, all the setbacks,
[28:01]
what impact does that have?
[28:05]
And I looked at the plans.
[28:09]
I cannot find any
[28:13]
fire resistant cladding or
[28:18]
venting to prevent
[28:22]
fire propagation in those areas.
[28:24]
I know that might be a more of a planning prior to,
[28:28]
and the plans are pretty well advanced.
[28:32]
But I suppose the main issue for Rose Billecci
[28:36]
is the story poles,
[28:41]
if it's possible to have additional poles to show,
[28:45]
say, projected bridge lines north and south
[28:48]
and, say, west, east-west.
[28:51]
Does that make sense?
[28:53]
- Understood.
[28:54]
Thank you very much, Ray.
[28:58]
I do have a quick question for staff.
[29:03]
The member of the public just raised an issue
[29:06]
in regards to the high fire severity zone.
[29:10]
So I wanna see if the project
[29:12]
was referred to the fire department
[29:14]
and if they had any notable comments
[29:16]
or anything pertinent related to that.
[29:20]
- If you wanna give me a moment,
[29:21]
I can double check that.
[29:23]
- What we can do is we can go to the next speaker
[29:25]
and then come back to you.
[29:27]
So if we could please allow Jamie to speak.
[29:31]
Jamie, you may please unmute yourself.
[29:36]
- [Jamie] Can you hear me?
[29:39]
Yes. Okay. - Yeah.
[29:41]
- [Jamie] I live across the street
[29:42]
in the old Tucker Mansion.
[29:45]
My one concern is the front setback
[29:49]
being so close to the street,
[29:52]
much closer than any other house on the street,
[29:56]
and that possibly setting a precedent
[30:00]
for things to come,
[30:02]
also the viewing going around that corner.
[30:08]
So that's one of my biggest concerns
[30:10]
is getting too close to Escobar.
[30:15]
The existing has a cantilevered section coming out there
[30:20]
and they're playing off of that.
[30:22]
I don't think that's actually accurate.
[30:25]
So I think a planner should physically look at that.
[30:29]
The story poles are my other issue.
[30:33]
I would love to see those set up, as they should be,
[30:36]
with a rope and flags across it
[30:39]
for the public to be able to easily visualize
[30:44]
the size and dimensions
[30:46]
of the building that they're proposing.
[30:50]
And I think that's quite important.
[30:52]
I've built a number of houses myself in Lafayette,
[30:55]
and I've always had to go through that.
[30:59]
The third thing I was curious about
[31:02]
is the state of the sidewalks,
[31:06]
if that could be incorporated
[31:08]
into their scope of the landscaping plan.
[31:12]
I know the city has a hard time fronting the cost
[31:15]
to improve those sidewalks,
[31:18]
but along Bayview, there's none at all.
[31:21]
And it would be helpful for traffic from the pool
[31:26]
on that side of the street
[31:28]
where there's only gonna be
[31:29]
basically a three-foot setback,
[31:31]
four-foot setback to Bayview.
[31:35]
So I don't know how they're gonna deal
[31:36]
with any landscaping there.
[31:38]
Maybe a sidewalk improvement plan should be incorporated
[31:43]
into the landscaping plan.
[31:46]
Just my thoughts.
[31:47]
I don't know if that's out of place for this meeting or not,
[31:51]
but wanted to plant some seeds.
[31:55]
Any questions?
[31:59]
- No questions at this time.
[32:01]
I'm gonna wait to hear all public comments,
[32:04]
but I appreciate your succinctness
[32:08]
and being very clear with what your concerns are.
[32:11]
- [Jamie] Okay.
[32:14]
- I do wanna circle back to staff.
[32:16]
Brandon, are you prepared to respond
[32:18]
to that initial question?
[32:21]
- Yeah, so the project was routed to
[32:24]
Contra Costa Fire Prevention District,
[32:26]
and they did provide several comments,
[32:28]
but they were mostly high level,
[32:30]
did identify that the project
[32:32]
was in a high fire severity zone,
[32:34]
and that additional
[32:37]
wildland-urban interface requirements
[32:39]
were likely applying that additional
[32:41]
review by the fire department would be necessary
[32:44]
and a permit and everything submitted to them
[32:46]
prior to a building permit being issued.
[32:51]
- Great. Thank you very much, Brandon.
[32:55]
I'd now like to open it up for Brooke,
[32:58]
if you'd like to make any comments.
[33:02]
- [Brooke] Yeah. Can you hear me?
[33:04]
- Yes, we can. - Okay.
[33:06]
My name's Brooke Guiley
[33:07]
and I live on 14 Escobar Street.
[33:10]
I attended the meeting hosted by the Chantri family.
[33:13]
I remain concerned about the requested exception
[33:17]
to the maximum building height.
[33:20]
For background information,
[33:22]
I purchased my home in the neighborhood 10 years ago.
[33:24]
I've started a family here,
[33:26]
and I have intentions of staying here
[33:28]
for many years to come.
[33:30]
To this day, the single best thing about my house
[33:33]
is its view of downtown Martinez and the Benicia Bridge.
[33:37]
This portion of Escobar Street
[33:39]
is characterized by its hillside location
[33:42]
and the views that it provides.
[33:44]
I'm generally supportive
[33:45]
of the long overdue renovation of 103.
[33:50]
The property has been abandoned and unattended
[33:52]
for longer than I've lived here.
[33:56]
The neighborhood is banded together to make sure
[33:58]
that a squatter type of situation never happened.
[34:01]
So it's positive, I think,
[34:04]
to restore, improve, and occupy the house,
[34:07]
but my concern is still with the proposed roof height.
[34:10]
The staff report describes it as a minor exception,
[34:13]
but I don't see any analysis explaining
[34:16]
why a roof exceeding the 25-foot maximum
[34:19]
is appropriate for this property
[34:22]
or compatible with the neighborhood.
[34:24]
I haven't seen any comparison of the proposed roof height
[34:27]
with the heights and roof profiles of the neighboring homes.
[34:34]
It's important because the surrounding neighborhood
[34:36]
is predominantly characterized by low profile roofs.
[34:42]
My own home, which was built in the 1970s,
[34:45]
and it's one of the newest houses on the block,
[34:47]
it has a low roof profile, a 3:12,
[34:51]
as do a majority of the surrounding homes.
[34:54]
The 612 roof pitch appears substantially taller
[34:58]
than the other roof forms
[34:59]
that are typical of this neighborhood.
[35:04]
So I was...
[35:06]
So the proposed roof is more than 27 feet tall.
[35:12]
I'm just requesting that
[35:14]
the applicants use a lower pitch roof, maybe a 3:12.
[35:19]
I'm an engineer, but I'm not a civil engineer,
[35:21]
but I think the house would be around 22 feet high,
[35:25]
or a 4:12 roof, which would be about 24 feet high.
[35:30]
Then the reconstructed home would
[35:34]
not even need an exemption.
[35:37]
In summary, I'm just asking you to consider
[35:41]
how this affects the neighborhood,
[35:43]
how it affects our views.
[35:46]
And I just don't understand
[35:47]
why they even need this variance.
[35:50]
Thank you for your time and for considering my comment.
[35:56]
- Thank you very much, Brooke.
[35:57]
I appreciate it.
[36:00]
Now I'd like to allow Tim Farley,
[36:02]
if you'd like to make any comments.
[36:06]
- [Tim] Hello.
[36:07]
Can you guys hear me?
[36:09]
- We can.
[36:10]
- [Tim] Thank you so much.
[36:11]
Again, Tim Farley, 40 Escobar Street.
[36:13]
I live directly across the street from 103.
[36:16]
I actually know Mrs. Chantri,
[36:19]
and she was a wonderful, wonderful neighbor.
[36:23]
I'm generally in supportive of having the home replaced.
[36:27]
I think we all can agree the current situation
[36:33]
is not good for all of us here on Escobar Street.
[36:36]
So I generally support this.
[36:40]
I did ask last time for the story poles,
[36:43]
and we have just one stick.
[36:46]
And I don't think you can get a reasonable
[36:50]
visualization of what the roof line would look like.
[36:54]
I know that the roof line and visibility
[36:58]
is important to the neighbors.
[36:59]
And so my concern is that
[37:04]
we did not get a full story pole setup,
[37:07]
but that's up to you guys.
[37:08]
I do wanna compliment the Chantris though,
[37:11]
because they did come and they did meet with us,
[37:14]
and they genuinely and sincerely, I believe,
[37:16]
listened to some of our concerns.
[37:18]
And bottom line, we're eager to have a new neighbor here.
[37:23]
So hopefully once this issue is resolved,
[37:26]
we can get a timeline when construction will begin.
[37:31]
Thank you.
[37:36]
- Thank you very much, Tim.
[37:39]
Jeremy.
[37:44]
- [Jeremy] Hi. Can you hear me?
[37:46]
- [Michael] I can.
[37:47]
- [Jeremy] Yeah, I'm Jeremy Guiley.
[37:50]
I also live at 14 Escobar Street,
[37:52]
but I am not with Brooke right now.
[37:55]
I just wanted to add a couple
[37:57]
of my own personal comments as well.
[37:59]
Along with the roof height,
[38:02]
I believe I heard the comment that the 6:12 roof
[38:06]
was chosen for the look of the home.
[38:09]
But again, just wanna reiterate that I believe
[38:12]
several of the homes in the neighborhood
[38:15]
have low profile roofs.
[38:16]
And our understanding is that
[38:19]
a lower profile roof may even be more cost-effective,
[38:24]
and there don't seem to be many cons from our standpoint.
[38:28]
So we're really wondering kind of what the,
[38:32]
I'll say, resistance to lowering the roof further would be
[38:37]
if it may even be beneficial to the project.
[38:41]
And we don't have things like snow buildup
[38:44]
to be concerned about here in this area
[38:47]
that you would typically want a higher slope roof for.
[38:52]
So would like some additional clarification
[38:55]
on the justification for that roof slope
[38:58]
when a lower roof slope could accomplish
[39:01]
the same thing for the home without adding costs,
[39:05]
increasing structural load, wind load,
[39:09]
or anything like that.
[39:12]
And it would be potentially
[39:14]
below the exception, as Brooke mentioned,
[39:18]
and better overall for the neighbors.
[39:22]
I am also generally supportive of the project.
[39:26]
I wanna emphasize that.
[39:28]
So I think it's important to consider
[39:32]
maybe making some of these minor adjustments
[39:35]
or just being open to minor changes
[39:39]
that could make significant improvements
[39:42]
to the neighbor's feel of the project
[39:47]
without derailing it too far.
[39:50]
Do wanna appreciate the Chantris
[39:53]
for coming out and meeting with us all as well,
[39:56]
and definitely do wanna see this renovation happen.
[40:01]
Only other comment though is that
[40:03]
did read through and the...
[40:06]
I guess what's being referred to as letter of support
[40:09]
that was in the project documents,
[40:14]
it didn't seem to me like it was
[40:17]
much of a letter of support
[40:19]
as it was a note to the property owners.
[40:23]
So maybe I read that wrong,
[40:24]
but I'm not quite sure if that's classified correctly,
[40:30]
and that those property owners
[40:33]
direct neighbors are necessarily
[40:36]
providing direct support for the project.
[40:39]
They do have solar panels on that side of their roof.
[40:43]
And so not trying to speak for them,
[40:46]
but height, I would assume, is a concern for them as well
[40:50]
to not block their solar panels.
[40:53]
And they mentioned the view into their bedroom previously.
[40:57]
So just wanted to point those items out.
[41:03]
- Great. Thank you very much, Jeremy.
[41:06]
Would now like to allow iPhone 4 to speak.
[41:12]
- [Rosalie] Hi, this is Rosalie Gallagher.
[41:15]
I am Rose Billecci's daughter.
[41:20]
My father built that house that she lives in,
[41:24]
530 Bayview Drive probably over 60, close to 70 years ago.
[41:31]
My mom will be 93 in a couple of weeks, and we have lived...
[41:37]
she's lived in that home pretty much her whole married life.
[41:43]
So we are the oldest residents, I believe,
[41:47]
in that area.
[41:50]
I grew up with Mrs. Chantri and Tony and Andrew
[41:55]
in the neighborhood.
[41:56]
We were very sad when Mrs. Chantri had to leave,
[42:03]
and very disappointed on how the property has
[42:08]
been taken care of since she has left.
[42:13]
There's a water heater in the yard
[42:15]
that has been there for years,
[42:19]
and that's just pretty much the tip of the iceberg.
[42:22]
But to get to my real concern is
[42:28]
just to tag onto my husband's comment about fire safety.
[42:34]
My mom is later in her years,
[42:38]
her sister lives with her now, who is also elderly.
[42:42]
The fire department has been called to the home
[42:46]
several times for assistance,
[42:49]
and you cannot get a firetruck on Bayview Drive, currently.
[42:57]
I'm very concerned with the request to
[43:03]
push out the home closer to the sidewalk,
[43:06]
because that's gonna make it even more difficult
[43:10]
for fire to respond.
[43:13]
At this point, the experience that we have had
[43:18]
is the firetruck had to park down
[43:21]
in front of Tim Farley's house,
[43:24]
and the EMTs had to walk up to my mom's house.
[43:30]
What if there really is a fire at her home
[43:34]
or at Art's home or the home next door to my mom's?
[43:40]
How is a firetruck going to get up there
[43:43]
if that variance is allowed so close to the street?
[43:48]
So to add additional
[43:55]
barricades or issues
[43:57]
or to getting help to Bayview Drive,
[44:03]
I think is unwise to allow.
[44:08]
There are people who live on Bayview Drive
[44:11]
as well as Escobar.
[44:14]
So thank you.
[44:16]
- Thank you very much.
[44:19]
Appreciate the comments.
[44:22]
Thank you, everyone, for your civility and your clarity,
[44:26]
and I really appreciate that.
[44:30]
I do wanna allow the applicant and architect,
[44:35]
if you would like to respond
[44:37]
to any of the public comments that we've heard,
[44:41]
please do so.
[44:45]
- [Tony] Can you hear us?
[44:47]
- [Kirk] Yes, they can hear us.
[44:48]
- [Tony] Oh, okay.
[44:52]
- [Kirk] I'm trying to digest all the issues.
[44:54]
I certainly can understand the difficulty of visualization
[44:59]
without the story poles.
[45:02]
One of the things we were trying to do
[45:04]
is if we could establish that one pole
[45:07]
and get some photos from the upper neighbors out,
[45:10]
we could then take those photos
[45:12]
and do a photo array showing
[45:14]
where that line exactly would be
[45:16]
from those particular vantage points.
[45:19]
The concern with the story poles is just
[45:22]
the ridge is in the middle of a bunch of...
[45:27]
The existing roof is very complicated and crazy
[45:30]
and not in very good shape.
[45:32]
And so walking around there
[45:33]
runs the risk of somebody falling through the roof.
[45:37]
And so how we would go about
[45:39]
constructing something that would be accurate
[45:42]
in the ridge locations
[45:44]
to accurately show a hip to ridge kind of situation.
[45:50]
While I'm sure it can be done,
[45:53]
I'm not sure exactly how that might be accomplished.
[45:59]
You would have to maybe...
[46:03]
There's a couple of ridges that you might be able to,
[46:06]
where our ridge lies between.
[46:09]
You could do a temporary support
[46:12]
and then down, but it's a lot to try to do.
[46:15]
It's not as simple as running
[46:20]
a line from that ridge.
[46:22]
That pole that's there is about 2 1/2 feet
[46:26]
from the actual top of the hip.
[46:29]
So where the height of the roof is,
[46:32]
is actually to the,
[46:34]
I guess would be to the east of where that post is,
[46:37]
assuming that the house runs,
[46:41]
Bayview runs east-west.
[46:42]
I'm not sure that it does it, but it's pretty close.
[46:46]
And Escobar runs north-south.
[46:48]
So
[46:50]
the ridge that's of concern runs east-west.
[46:54]
It's about 19 feet, four inches long,
[46:58]
and then it hips down on both sides to that.
[47:06]
The question trying to relate to heights
[47:12]
and roof heights,
[47:14]
I would maintain that there's a number of roof heights
[47:16]
that are done.
[47:18]
I would maintain that some of the four and 12 pitch heights
[47:22]
are on full two-story structures.
[47:25]
So they've already taken up a lot of the height
[47:28]
with the size of their building.
[47:31]
Ours is one story from the Bayview side.
[47:35]
The idea of doing a six and 12,
[47:38]
it was a compromise to not make it look like
[47:40]
a regular ranch-style house
[47:42]
because this house, the original house
[47:44]
had character with the eight and 12 pitches,
[47:46]
and had a certain look,
[47:49]
kind of a classic Bay Area look.
[47:52]
That's the architecture part of it.
[47:56]
In terms of circulation
[47:57]
and fire access,
[48:00]
this is the first I've heard
[48:02]
that firetruck can't access Bayview Drive
[48:05]
because of our building.
[48:09]
The pop-out that we're talking about
[48:12]
pops out only as far as the original pop-outs are.
[48:15]
So if it's encroaching on...
[48:17]
If our existing house encroaches,
[48:21]
which is 12 feet from the curb,
[48:24]
I just don't understand the analysis, I guess.
[48:28]
- [Tony] How it affects fire.
[48:30]
- [Kirk] How it affects fire.
[48:31]
and we've never heard any of those comments before.
[48:34]
So I don't know if that came about
[48:37]
in the fire department review for you guys.
[48:40]
Clearly we're in a fire area.
[48:43]
I doubt highly that any of the surrounding buildings
[48:46]
have any of the WUI classifications.
[48:50]
That's not to say that we're opposed to
[48:52]
putting a non-combustible siding on the side
[48:55]
and a non-combustible roof on top
[48:57]
and tempering our vents to comply with
[49:02]
all those requirements for code.
[49:04]
That's fine.
[49:06]
But I'm not sure that necessarily
[49:10]
protects the rest of the neighborhood from fire.
[49:12]
- [Tony] No, they're old, especially the Victorian.
[49:15]
- [Kirk] So I mean...
[49:17]
But obviously we are asking for this work
[49:20]
to take place in today's code,
[49:22]
and today's code has those provisions.
[49:24]
So we would have to provide those provisions
[49:27]
to comply with code,
[49:28]
and we have no objection to that.
[49:30]
It wouldn't necessarily change the look of the house at all.
[49:33]
We already have a lap siding.
[49:35]
James Hardie produces a lap siding that is fire resistant,
[49:38]
that complies with WUI, complies with code,
[49:41]
and we could use that.
[49:44]
- [Tony] Also, we're not doing anything.
[49:46]
Also, as far as the firetruck
[49:48]
may not be able to get up there,
[49:50]
but that's just an existing road.
[49:52]
We're not doing anything to narrow the road.
[49:59]
We're 12 feet from the side on Bayview on that.
[50:05]
So if a firetruck did what Rose said,
[50:09]
it was probably 'cause they couldn't make the turn,
[50:11]
but that's already existing.
[50:13]
That has nothing to do with us.
[50:15]
As far as the water heater, somebody dumped it there.
[50:18]
That has all been removed,
[50:19]
all that vegetation around the front.
[50:24]
I took a tape and went back 25 feet.
[50:28]
I even took a picture of it.
[50:30]
All that is clear
[50:32]
because there was concern about
[50:33]
people coming from the swimming pool
[50:35]
and speeding around the corner.
[50:38]
That is clear sight now.
[50:40]
Even with the little addition,
[50:42]
it's still clear from the original
[50:45]
structure of the house in the front.
[50:48]
All we're doing is doing a little fill-in on that front.
[50:51]
So it doesn't do anything to obscure
[50:54]
the safety of going around from Bayview to Escobar.
[51:01]
We have removed the two trees and it's wide.
[51:04]
As far as looking at the front, the story pole,
[51:08]
the ridge in the back runs 19 feet,
[51:12]
and that's the highest part.
[51:14]
I don't believe, from the cul-de-sac up in the corner,
[51:18]
that because of Art's house and everything being there,
[51:22]
that they could even see that part of the roof.
[51:25]
And then the roof slopes down.
[51:27]
In fact, I believe...
[51:28]
Is it a couple inches shorter or about the same,
[51:33]
the front part of the house?
[51:36]
- [Kirk] The ridge that runs north-south is about
[51:39]
I think four inches taller than the existing ridge
[51:41]
that's eight and 12.
[51:43]
- [Tony] So when you look at the front,
[51:44]
the front is the same.
[51:46]
And then from the back of the house
[51:49]
going towards Escobar Street,
[51:52]
only 19 feet of that,
[51:55]
and then it slopes down.
[51:57]
So that's why we're with the six and 12,
[52:00]
to keep the characteristics of the house.
[52:06]
That extended height is not
[52:08]
for the full length of the house.
[52:11]
So looking from the front, like we said,
[52:14]
the eight and 12 that's there, that part remains.
[52:17]
Only it's gonna be a 6 and 12.
[52:19]
And it's a little wider on the floor plan,
[52:22]
so it stays basically the same.
[52:25]
As Kirk just said, it's four inches, I believe,
[52:28]
maybe taller, or four inches shy.
[52:31]
So that really I feel has nothing to do with
[52:37]
looking at it as far as
[52:39]
denying the project because of that.
[52:43]
Another thing is, as Kirk said,
[52:47]
we can get on top of Billecci, the Rose Billecci's porch
[52:51]
and do a panoramic view.
[52:53]
As I said, I've been on her porch.
[52:57]
Even with this project,
[52:59]
you will be able to see the courthouse.
[53:02]
You can see Shell.
[53:03]
You can see part of downtown Martinez.
[53:05]
You can see the bridge,
[53:07]
and you can see the water.
[53:08]
So I really don't believe
[53:09]
it's gonna really impair anything,
[53:11]
unless you want to be on the porch and look straight down.
[53:14]
And you can do that looking at cars
[53:16]
and say, "The cars are obstructing my view."
[53:19]
But that's that on that.
[53:23]
The size of the house,
[53:25]
most of it, it's a thousand,
[53:27]
basically at 900 and some odd feet underneath the house,
[53:30]
which was already stated by Brandon and everything.
[53:35]
So we would like to get on with this project
[53:37]
and get it up and running and going.
[53:40]
I really appreciate it.
[53:41]
Thanks to everybody.
[53:43]
- Understood. Thank you so much.
[53:46]
Brandon, do you have any additional comments
[53:48]
that you'd like to make in response to the public comments
[53:51]
and the applicant's response?
[53:53]
- The only thing that I wanted to address,
[53:56]
I think there is a concern about sidewalks.
[53:58]
I believe if they're doing more than 50%
[54:02]
of the valuation of the existing home,
[54:04]
that they would be required to do frontage improvements,
[54:06]
which includes sidewalks.
[54:08]
So some sidewalks would require to be upgraded and improved.
[54:12]
- [Tony] Well, we're redoing that anyway.
[54:15]
- [Michael] Yeah, so -
[54:16]
- [Tony] That's gonna be redone anyway.
[54:17]
- [Kirk] Are you talking about Bayview?
[54:19]
Excuse me.
[54:22]
- I'm not sure about Bayview.
[54:23]
That would be subject to engineering decision.
[54:26]
I don't believe so based on the topography of the site,
[54:29]
but it would primarily be along Escobar.
[54:32]
- [Tony] Right, which we tend to do anyway,
[54:34]
because getting into the garage and everything.
[54:38]
Same thing with next door neighbor.
[54:39]
They had to do the same thing.
[54:41]
We have no issue with that at all.
[54:43]
Thank you.
[54:44]
- And Brandon, can you point me to the condition of approval
[54:47]
that speaks to the frontage improvements?
[54:51]
- Let's see.
[54:59]
Bear with me just a moment.
[55:05]
I'm not sure there's one that specifically calls it out,
[55:07]
but they would be subject to
[55:09]
a site development permit
[55:10]
through the engineering division
[55:12]
where things of that nature would be a result at that time.
[55:15]
But if you'd like,
[55:16]
I'm happy to include an additional condition
[55:18]
that related to frontage improvements.
[55:23]
- Well, thank you very much, Brandon.
[55:26]
I'm now gonna close the public portion of the meeting.
[55:32]
Okay, so this one is a little bit of a tough one.
[55:36]
So again, I really appreciate everyone involvement,
[55:42]
and it clearly is a great neighborhood just based on
[55:46]
the way that everyone is carrying themselves
[55:50]
in ways that's helpful,
[55:51]
in ways that makes my job more challenging.
[55:55]
Appreciate just the civility
[55:57]
and everyone being just very forthright
[55:59]
with what you're after.
[56:03]
And I also wanna thank the applicant for having met with,
[56:07]
and property owner, excuse me,
[56:09]
for having met with some of the neighbors
[56:12]
and kind of discussing the project.
[56:14]
I think that goes a long way,
[56:15]
and I'm hopeful that those relationships
[56:19]
will continue as time goes forward
[56:25]
both with eventual project as well as after that project.
[56:34]
So when we had the last meeting,
[56:37]
I had asked for some additional information in terms of
[56:44]
how to demonstrate to the neighbors
[56:49]
the proposed height impacts.
[56:51]
And I was loose in how that would be done.
[56:55]
And I understand the request from many members of the public
[56:59]
wanting story poles installed.
[57:02]
However, I'm personally not a fan of story poles.
[57:06]
I actually think they're somewhat problematic
[57:09]
for a variety of reasons.
[57:10]
I think they can misrepresent
[57:12]
what the massing is of a structure.
[57:14]
And I think they can give a representation that
[57:19]
when someone can't read plans,
[57:21]
that it's hard to understand
[57:22]
what the massing is actually going to be.
[57:25]
I think it's particularly challenging
[57:29]
if that's being proposed on a site with an existing home,
[57:33]
particularly if the home is older, with older roof,
[57:37]
and need of maintenance and things of that nature.
[57:41]
I do appreciate though that the applicant
[57:44]
provided an exhibit that more clearly represents
[57:48]
the existing and proposed height
[57:52]
to aid in better understanding
[57:56]
of what ranges in a height increase.
[57:59]
I think it's also important to point out
[58:02]
that that is only in parts.
[58:04]
It is not a universal because of how
[58:07]
the roof pitches and slope is actually designed
[58:09]
and how that's broken up.
[58:13]
I do also wanna emphasize that
[58:15]
this neighborhood being on a hillside as staff represented
[58:21]
as part of the presentation,
[58:23]
height does sound worse than it actually is
[58:26]
because it is a worst case scenario
[58:28]
that's being described.
[58:29]
It's from the low point to the high point on the property.
[58:34]
There is also a benefit with this particular project
[58:38]
that the uphill side actually has a street adjacent to it,
[58:42]
which provides for a further buffer,
[58:47]
and there's fairly significant additional grade change
[58:51]
on the uphill side.
[58:54]
And understand the comment in regards to
[58:58]
the public comment letter
[59:00]
that was attached in the staff report
[59:03]
that was received by the Gardenals.
[59:08]
I'm not gonna put words into what they said,
[59:11]
but they did explicitly say
[59:14]
that they're looking forward to the project getting started.
[59:17]
So I am going to interpret that
[59:19]
as a letter of support for the project.
[59:26]
I appreciate also according to the property owner,
[59:31]
that there's been some cleanup of the site
[59:34]
in terms of removal of some of the vegetation
[59:38]
and removal of the water heater that was in the front yard.
[59:43]
I did not go back out to the site since the last meeting,
[59:46]
but I had been out a couple of times before that.
[59:49]
And...
[59:53]
Yeah.
[59:56]
So,
[59:58]
I am prepared prepared to approve the project tonight,
[1:00:02]
and part of my reasoning,
[1:00:04]
I do think it is well-designed.
[1:00:06]
I do think it is in keeping
[1:00:08]
with the character and scale of the neighborhood.
[1:00:11]
I do think it's important to point out that
[1:00:15]
the variances and exceptions that are being requested,
[1:00:19]
I do think it's important to point out,
[1:00:20]
and this was provided as part of staff's presentation.
[1:00:25]
There is a table that's included that is showing
[1:00:27]
existing and proposed conditions.
[1:00:29]
And for a number of the requests that's there,
[1:00:33]
it's continuing an existing non-conforming situation
[1:00:37]
rather than predominantly further expansion.
[1:00:41]
I do also think it's important to put out on the record
[1:00:45]
that the parking situation is currently non-conforming
[1:00:49]
and is going to be made conforming as part of this project
[1:00:52]
and improving that situation
[1:00:54]
and decreasing the impact on the surrounding neighborhood
[1:00:58]
by having more sufficient room for vehicles
[1:01:01]
to park on the subject site rather than on the street.
[1:01:07]
And I referenced this at the last meeting.
[1:01:09]
It was referred to as a guest room.
[1:01:12]
To me, it is an accessory dwelling unit,
[1:01:14]
and that is how it will need to be permitted.
[1:01:17]
It has full independent living facilities.
[1:01:20]
And the fact that there is the increase
[1:01:23]
to the square footage,
[1:01:24]
that a portion of that project
[1:01:26]
is an accessory dwelling unit,
[1:01:27]
that further, to me, emphasizes
[1:01:31]
support for what's being proposed
[1:01:33]
as part of this application.
[1:01:38]
Saying that,
[1:01:41]
so I am prepared to
[1:01:45]
adopt draft resolution number 26-18,
[1:01:51]
approving the application,
[1:01:53]
subject to conditions of approval,
[1:01:55]
but I have a few modifications to the conditions of approval
[1:01:58]
that I would like to request.
[1:02:03]
First, I'd like to add the reference in
[1:02:06]
for a site development permit from the engineering division.
[1:02:09]
And as part of that site development permit,
[1:02:12]
there needs to be frontage improvements,
[1:02:16]
including potentially curb, gutter, and sidewalk
[1:02:20]
along the entire frontage,
[1:02:22]
subject to approval by the city engineer or designee.
[1:02:29]
The only caveat that I'm going to give
[1:02:31]
that city engineer is not here,
[1:02:33]
so the city engineer does have some leeway to deviate
[1:02:36]
if that provides any impact
[1:02:38]
that's not anticipated as part of the project,
[1:02:41]
if it can be accommodated for some reason.
[1:02:45]
Secondly, I would request that the resolution
[1:02:50]
be revised to add references to the accessory dwelling unit
[1:02:53]
so it's clear that that is part of the project.
[1:02:57]
I can't because an accessory dwelling unit
[1:03:00]
is ministerial by nature,
[1:03:02]
but I wanna make sure that that's still referenced.
[1:03:09]
Next, as I've not had the chance
[1:03:13]
to see how the site has been cleared of vegetation,
[1:03:17]
I'd still like to include a condition of approval,
[1:03:20]
but it may be that this has actually already been satisfied.
[1:03:24]
But I'd like to include a condition of approval
[1:03:27]
indicating that vegetation should be
[1:03:30]
cleared to the satisfaction of the city engineer or designee
[1:03:33]
so as to not obstruct
[1:03:39]
visibility issues at the intersection.
[1:03:42]
And further, even though the property owner indicated it,
[1:03:45]
but ensure that the vegetation is removed
[1:03:48]
so it's not encroaching within the utility lines.
[1:03:58]
And then, finally,
[1:04:02]
I would like to, also as part of that,
[1:04:05]
even though it sounds like it's already been removed,
[1:04:07]
I'm not gonna include it as part of the resolution,
[1:04:09]
but just, property owner, confirm,
[1:04:14]
please ensure that the water heater has been removed.
[1:04:18]
I know you indicated that,
[1:04:19]
but my request is that that be removed
[1:04:21]
if it hasn't been for some reason.
[1:04:27]
And that is it that I'd like to add at this point in time.
[1:04:33]
So my decision is appealable.
[1:04:35]
Anyone can appeal my decision to the planning commission
[1:04:39]
by filing an appeal within 10 calendar days from today.
[1:04:45]
If you are interested in doing so,
[1:04:48]
please contact Imanol Tovar and Brandon Northart.
[1:04:51]
They can walk you through that process and what's required.
[1:04:55]
And again, I do wanna end with
[1:04:59]
I appreciate the civility
[1:05:02]
and how everyone has carried themself
[1:05:05]
at both public hearings.
[1:05:07]
And my hope is that this project will
[1:05:12]
have minimal impact during construction
[1:05:15]
and that the neighborhood will be pleased
[1:05:18]
when it's completed and how it fixes up a property
[1:05:21]
that is in need of some care.
[1:05:25]
Thank you very much.
[1:05:27]
At that, I will adjourn today's meeting at 5:05.