June 22, 2020 City Commission Meeting

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[0:04] And now, for McAllen City Hall, a meeting of the McAllen City Commission.
[0:15] Good afternoon or to convene the Joint City Commission meeting with the McAllen Public Utility Board. If you would please stand with me for the Pledge of Allegiance followed by the invocation by Commissioner Victor or not.
[0:47] Thank you for the gift of life and the opportunity to serve the people of our city.
[0:51] Help us to act with character and conviction, help us to listen with understanding and good
[0:55] will help us to speak with charity and restraint. Give us a spirit of service. Remind us that we
[1:02] are stewards of your authority. Guide us to be the leaders, your people and our community
[1:06] need during this ongoing pandemic and national turmoil. Help us see the humanity and dignity of
[1:11] those who disagree with us and treat all persons with the reverence your creation deserves. Amen.
[1:18] Okay, this is a joint meeting for the purposes of awarding the depository bank contract. We have
[1:24] the WTOD board quorum here and the City Commission and who's going to give us that information.
[1:32] Okay, Maubo.
[1:52] Good afternoon.
[1:53] I don't know if you can make out or if I should remove my mask or if I'm fine.
[2:00] Good.
[2:00] Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Rice Chairman, members of the City Commission and the WTOD board.
[2:06] We're here this afternoon to request your approval to award the Depository Bank Services
[2:13] contract. Several months ago, staff commenced the solicitation process for the bank contract
[2:22] as the current contract with Plains Capital Bank expires at the end of July. All banks,
[2:30] excuse me, all banks within the city, within the city limits were given an opportunity
[2:37] or invited to submit proposals or applications to provide banking services to the city
[2:45] and McAllen.
[2:46] Of the 18 banks that were contacted either by phone or by Polish notice, three submitted
[2:58] Proposals, Plains Capital Bank, BBVA Bank, and Lone Star National Bank.
[3:06] Now this solicitation was conducted in coordination, of course with, you know, the purchasing
[3:12] contracting department, the legal department staff, as well as the city's investment advisor,
[3:19] Valley View Consulting.
[3:22] Tom Ross, the Valley View Consulting actually, and his team actually reviewed and analyzed
[3:28] and prepared a detailed response analysis of the submittals, an evaluation committee
[3:36] consisting myself, the FBI of Yassana, and so I never said this, the Assessent Investment
[3:41] Officer, evaluated the results that were submitted to us.
[3:48] I don't know if your name and base on your experience, the bank that you're recommending
[3:53] would that be the rest of your sentence?
[3:55] Yes, sir.
[3:55] The word you're recommending.
[3:56] We are recommending Planes Capital Bank.
[4:00] That's our incumbent bank.
[4:01] Yes, sir.
[4:02] Okay.
[4:03] We read the report, it's very detailed report, who is there any questions relating to the report?
[4:08] I just have a general question on the pricing if the earnings credit rate drops to the minimum,
[4:15] I think it's a quarter basis, 25 basis points, would we incur an analysis fee or an
[4:24] and or have we historically incurred an analysis fee?
[4:27] I'm sorry, I didn't understand the, what kind of fee?
[4:30] Analysis for analysis.
[4:31] Oh, an analysis fee.
[4:33] Yes.
[4:33] One of the things that we do is we, of course, offset our expenses with the earnings credit rate.
[4:41] We currently have a floor with Plains Capital Bank.
[4:46] They have actually offered the same floor of 25 basis points.
[4:49] So even if the rates even drop further, the 90-day T Bill rate, if it dropped even more
[4:57] than that would still be locked in at 25 basis points.
[4:59] Okay, so if the floor that a quarter basis point or 25 basis point
[5:05] Would we incur a an analysis fee would?
[5:11] I guess it depends on where we set the threshold of your investable deposits, but that's correct
[5:16] Have historically have have we been at a zero?
[5:21] Have we netted out a zero charge?
[5:23] Well actually we have actually paid expenses because
[5:27] when the rates come down and right now it's a good indication of you know where rates are they're so low right now
[5:34] the night when they they T bill rate right now is at a point when five 15 basis points which is a significant
[5:42] significantly lower than the 25 basis point floor. So yes we do have a hard cost that's associated with you know when those rates come
[5:52] You know, too far down.
[5:53] Yeah.
[5:55] Back in September or the end of September where we would have had a $5 million compensating
[6:00] balance requirement, you know, just to break even.
[6:04] So we wouldn't have to pay any fees.
[6:06] As of the end of May, that compensating balance is up to $25 million, pretty significant of
[6:13] a difference.
[6:14] Sure.
[6:14] Okay.
[6:15] What kind of fees are you talking about then?
[6:16] An average month.
[6:17] On an average month, it's probably around $5,000 to $7,000.
[6:21] That's significant.
[6:23] Okay.
[6:24] It's still the best deal, though.
[6:26] Yes, sir.
[6:27] I was asking about pricing.
[6:28] Probably never happened, ultimately, before.
[6:31] Pretty close to that.
[6:32] Never happening.
[6:32] Right.
[6:33] Okay. Any other questions?
[6:35] Your recommendation is staff to have a motion from the City Commission.
[6:39] Second.
[6:39] Motion is second to continue with the Plains Capitol.
[6:42] I'll never say aye.
[6:43] Aye.
[6:43] Close same sign.
[6:44] I have a motion from the utility board.
[6:50] Okay. I second I understand Ernie. You're abstaining and file the conflict of interest. I second that motion. I was in favor say aye.
[6:59] Aye. Motion carried. Any other business come before the utility board? Then we would our joint meeting is adjourned. Thank you for gentlemen. Appreciate it. Thank you, Melbourne.
[7:14] the next item is a public hearing item but okay and I understand let's see the
[7:24] routine items are items two a one two and three is that correct Louise okay
[7:44] a 43.0.7, it's firstly a 3.1.20, it's a 3.5.D.N.C., but does come to the commissioner with
[7:52] a fair will recommendation to the various district departments, and the third one is the
[7:57] conditional use purpose, or inclusion use the church, for life of the youth, and 70401, nor
[8:02] the wearable.
[8:03] Okay.
[8:04] This being a public hearing, there's anyone here to appear in opposition to items 2A1, 2 and
[8:11] three as we reported item two looked like it's a negative recommendation but
[8:16] one in fact it is with the approval of the variance.
[8:19] question about that?
[8:20] Sure.
[8:21] How have they been?
[8:24] Has the bar been open or
[8:25] was it?
[8:26] Has it been open in the past?
[8:28] It was open originally.
[8:29] It's a light club.
[8:30] Then it became a bar for time.
[8:32] This new applicant is wanting to start a
[8:34] social club from that location.
[8:36] It's like a venue.
[8:37] Yes, it's going to have members.
[8:39] And they can have some activities
[8:40] and things like that.
[8:42] Good night.
[8:43] And they're avoiding the liquor
[8:45] or the late night.
[8:50] Okay, no, there is no public response to this request, so I'd entertain a motion for items 2A, 1, 2, and 3 for approval.
[9:01] Go move.
[9:02] Second.
[9:03] Okay, no further discussion.
[9:04] I'll be better say aye.
[9:06] Aye.
[9:06] Opposed, same sign, motion carried.
[9:08] Item B, is that still tabled?
[9:12] Okay. And then item C, condition news permits. The first one is item C1.
[9:24] Oh, that's the table, that's, I'm sorry.
[9:31] Yeah, I know it's for two, I'm going to go, I've got to go.
[9:34] Oh, you don't want to go at that time.
[9:36] Yeah, yeah, I thought they would do that. Okay, so that one's be tabled and then let's see for a dog panel.
[9:42] The next one is a request for the
[9:53] Record Commissioner of that.
[9:55] Yes, did not vote for the depository contract and abstain from participation.
[10:00] That correct?
[10:01] Yes, thank you.
[10:01] Okay, thank you.
[10:02] So this is a condition used permit for 6820 nor Taylor for a dog kennel.
[10:08] We have four requests to comment on this particular item.
[10:13] I'm presuming that all are in favor of that.
[10:17] I'm not mistaken are they are they in the audience
[10:26] Well,
[10:29] I was told they were here what
[10:40] Well, that's yeah, I'm just seeing if they're here yet, and so yeah, and she the spokesperson for all four people
[10:45] I presume if you're in favor you're going to say the same thing
[10:50] Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You give us a briefing, Mr.
[10:53] I guess it's there. I'll make a motion to remove the table. Huh?
[10:58] This item has been produced by table. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. The
[11:00] motion to take off the table. Yes. Second. I was better say aye. Sorry.
[11:04] I always say motion carried. Thank you.
[11:08] This is a request that 1620 north fence is real for the
[11:11] district's permit for life of the youth for a dog kennel.
[11:15] Property itself is on the go as the property to the north.
[11:17] South of East, the west side of the property is outside the city of Limits.
[11:22] Single family and victimism is the primary usage in the area.
[11:26] Pointing work in the Department of Difficulties has been played during 2019.
[11:30] The second one, the name is South of the 19th, a bit of operating from the rest of the
[11:35] malaria.
[11:36] It was a citation issued, and the applicant has been trying to resolve this, and
[11:40] it has been a noticeable part of several occasions, again, trying to resolve it.
[11:45] And there is an approximate 2700 square foot residence on the one acre property, and the
[11:51] applicant has provided the back part and front yard into a four different playgrounds
[11:55] for dogs, and proposes to continue operating a dog daycare from the existing residence in
[12:00] other playgrounds.
[12:02] Approximately two employees or volunteers are there at any time.
[12:05] Boarding of the dogs is available, and the grouping services are also offered.
[12:10] Health Department has inspected the site, and it is in compliance.
[12:13] Fire Department is needed of a final follow-up inspection.
[12:18] The request must meet requirements in Section 138-18 of the Sony Nordance, which includes
[12:23] that the property should be located a minimum of 300 feet from the near-end residents.
[12:28] The business operates from the residents and outdoor areas in the different dog playgrounds.
[12:33] There isn't existing residents approximately 40-50 feet north of this location.
[12:37] and also the parcel should be five acres or more.
[12:41] This property is a one acre parcel.
[12:43] The item was initially tabled by PNC March 17th
[12:47] and the City Commission on April 13th.
[12:49] It remained tabled.
[12:51] The Planning Commission did ask that to contact the applicant,
[12:54] indicated that they wanted to consider
[12:56] the item at the June 2nd meeting.
[12:58] The applicant indicated she would be there,
[13:00] but just prior to the meeting staff received a call.
[13:03] Um, her husband indicated that she wasn't able
[13:05] to make it do to unexpected illness.
[13:07] There was a neighbor in opposition, and for this reason the board did remove the item
[13:11] from the table to allow the neighbor to speak.
[13:15] He did express concerns regarding the dogs barking all day, traffic issues, and the operation
[13:21] of a business in residential area.
[13:24] Following the discussion, the board did vote unanimously to disapprove the condition used
[13:29] permit.
[13:30] there were seven members present and voting.
[13:33] Should the commission approve,
[13:34] you would require three-fourths vote from the board
[13:37] and it also would require a various
[13:39] to the lot size and to the distance requirement.
[13:42] You do have in your packet letters,
[13:44] so my position from the surrounding property owner,
[13:48] we did also receive one right before the meeting today.
[13:50] Again, dealing with traffic,
[13:52] there's an automated gate to get in and out of the site
[13:55] and that sometimes can cause some issues
[13:58] apparently on traffic on to our road and also there's a minimum number of
[14:02] parking on-site so that should be addressed if the permit's approved. You also have
[14:07] 10 emails of support for the condition used permit indicating that some of them
[14:12] have used this service and they feel that this is a needed service for the
[14:15] community and that the condition used permit should be approved.
[14:18] Right. Mr. Hernandez here do you know? I believe so yes sir. Okay. What we'll do is
[14:24] I think he could come in because he's here this, I guess, and is the applicant here.
[14:31] Okay.
[14:32] What we'll do is, we'll do it like this, the people that filed this, you can speak for
[14:37] them.
[14:38] And once you go ahead and I think you're in favor of it, if you would go ahead and please
[14:42] limit it to like three minutes, appreciate it.
[14:57] My name is Melissa Strataghanan and I-
[15:00] I'm a second hearing medical student at the UTRG School of Medicine. I am here in full support of Melissa's pet services, requesting that the city grant a conditions permit, so that she may continue to maintain her dog-a-day care business open. Over the years, I have used many dog-a-day care facilities to provide my dogs with a better quality of life, given the stringent schedule of a career in the medical field. I can honestly say that Melissa's pet service is by far
[15:28] Super seats and he had a place they have ever attended as is true of many of my
[15:34] colleagues. I left my hometown and family behind to move here to start and
[15:39] medical school career and be a service to the Rio Grande Valley community. Finding
[15:45] Melissa's pet services was truly a godsend not just for myself but many of my
[15:50] colleagues who also entrust their loyal companions to Melissa and her staff.
[15:56] She
[15:57] is certainly accommodating to our hectic schedules.
[16:00] She always goes the extra mile in giving
[16:03] the amount of exercise, love, and social interaction
[16:06] to keep my companion, Samson, the healthy lifestyle
[16:12] that he deserves.
[16:14] And it gives me the priceless piece of mind
[16:15] while I dedicate countless hours to my studies,
[16:18] indoors in the library, especially during a time
[16:22] of increasing demand for essential workers
[16:25] in the medical field.
[16:26] Melissa's pet service provides one of the most essential needs to the community by taking care of our dog companions.
[16:32] By providing her the conditional use permit, you'll allow a hard working and exemplary member of your community to maintain her business open and continue to maintain her staff during the time of uncertain financial and employment insecurity.
[16:46] By extension, you will also continue to provide them the county community, the very essential service that Melissa's pet service provides for us.
[16:54] Not only has Ms. Burton demonstrated her professionalism and dedication to making the necessary changes to her business to comply with city requisites, but has grown her business by where it is not from the committee.
[17:07] Her reputation proceeds her, and I have encountered several dog owners in the community that I am new to at a local dog park who also rave about her business.
[17:16] Yes.
[17:17] Do you think big volumes about the honest business that is Melissa's pet services and their
[17:22] whiteness of the conditional use permit?
[17:25] Thank you so much for your time.
[17:27] Thank you.
[17:27] I presume the other applicants would be expressing the same sentiment.
[17:32] And there are quite a few.
[17:33] Actually, definitely.
[17:35] We all got the, I think we all got the, let the emails all over.
[17:40] Okay.
[17:41] Sorry, if I could add one more thing.
[17:42] In regards to the traffic complaint, I use Melissa almost regularly and I myself have never even witnessed traffic issues.
[17:52] Her gate is open during community hours or business hours and I personally have never experienced an issue with that.
[18:02] I would like to thank you very much.
[18:04] Thank you. I appreciate that.
[18:06] And then we'll let Mr. Hernandez who had the written complaint participated and then we'll allow Ms. Burton to address his objections.
[18:15] Is Mr. Hernandez here?
[18:26] In your letter was in our packet, I think, and so we heard the juxtap of your complaints.
[18:31] If you will please limit as much as possible to your statements.
[18:36] Go ahead.
[18:37] My name is Hector Hernandez,
[18:42] and I
[18:47] am an immediate neighbor of the North of Melissa Burton on
[18:50] Taylor Road.
[18:51] I have lived there for over 30 years.
[18:55] Zoning regulates land use in old districts.
[18:58] When the change in zoning does not advance a general public purpose in land use, it should
[19:04] be considered as illegal.
[19:06] It also demeluates property.
[19:09] A real nuisance, the parking of dogs day and night, it's a real nightmare.
[19:16] Screaming are the dogs to stop fighting or do this or do that is really ridiculous.
[19:23] No proper structure for the dogs either.
[19:26] What happens when it rains or it's a real cold outside?
[19:30] Are you going to put 20 or 30 dogs inside your house?
[19:34] I would add that you need more land, at least two and a half acres, to properly open up
[19:40] a dog kennel in a special area. Traffic coming and going is beyond belief.
[19:48] I've had many
[19:49] people stop in my gate asking me to open the gate so they can bring the dogs in. I said,
[19:54] what are you talking about? They're looking for that kennel. But it's a real nuisance.
[20:04] What
[20:05] in which benefits only the property owner.
[20:08] And not the community, like a school or a park would.
[20:13] What she's asking is that I would zone in districts
[20:16] and if granted, that would show favoritism
[20:18] towards the land owner, which is her.
[20:27] I'm not sure when she applied for this permit,
[20:29] but evidently she didn't apply for it
[20:31] when she moved in.
[20:33] Because as soon as she moved in,
[20:34] I had people come in and go in in the front of my gate, when the meet opened the gate.
[20:42] Obviously, she's now applying for the permit after she probably got caught,
[20:47] but it's a
[20:48] real nightmare because the parking of dogs day and night is a real news.
[20:53] And you're talking about not one or two dogs, you're talking about a whole bunch of them.
[21:00] I thank you all for your time.
[21:01] Okay.
[21:02] Anybody have any questions?
[21:03] You say that the box are dark or barking day and night.
[21:07] Sure.
[21:08] Your test board says what you're telling us is that you're here in the barking day and
[21:14] night.
[21:15] It continues.
[21:16] Okay.
[21:17] The barking is just the day.
[21:18] Is that every day?
[21:19] Day and day out.
[21:20] Okay.
[21:21] And are you at home at all times of the day?
[21:24] Are you at home at all times of the day?
[21:27] I'm there most of the time because I'm retired.
[21:29] Okay.
[21:30] I'm a disabled veteran.
[21:31] All right.
[21:32] And is there about 9% of the time?
[21:34] All right.
[21:34] Is there a wall that separates your property?
[21:36] It's a big wall, yes sir.
[21:37] How tall is that wall?
[21:38] About 8 foot.
[21:39] OK.
[21:40] And what is the wall made out of?
[21:42] Thank you pardon?
[21:43] What is the wall?
[21:43] The material is used.
[21:44] It's brick.
[21:45] Brick.
[21:45] And the very top portion is a 3 foot aluminum.
[21:49] OK.
[21:49] Why the 3 foot aluminum?
[21:51] Sir.
[21:52] Why is there a 3 foot piece of aluminum at the top?
[21:54] Well, because prior to Ms. Burton moving into that house,
[21:57] There was, that house was being rented to a lot of different people.
[22:01] I had, there's been so many raids in that house that people were jumping, kept jumping
[22:07] the fence over to my house, they were running away from the police officers.
[22:13] It got to be a real, real hazardous nuisance, because people were running away from the cops
[22:19] and the DEA, they were trying to avoid from getting busted.
[22:24] Okay, and does that brick wall or fence run the entire length of the property line that a butt smiths his burger?
[22:33] Well, that did tear it off. No, so just from the house to the back of the property. To the back. Okay.
[22:38] I also understand there's like a lake, but it's not as tall. Okay, all right. Do you have any pets on your on your property?
[22:47] I have who pets. Yes, sir. I love dogs myself, but what's I've got two dogs. Okay
[22:56] I mean, they're not barking like 20 or 30 dogs day in life. All right
[23:01] And can you give a little bit more detail about the traffic issue the traffic issue? What what are you observing?
[23:08] What do you want? What are you observing from the traffic situation? What what do you see? What do I see? Yeah, what describe what you see?
[23:17] on the neighbor's house. Yeah, a whole bunch of tents. I mean, they've got about
[23:25] 15 or 20 tents in the back and the front and the back of the house. No, I'm
[23:30] sorry, when I'm in traffic, how much how much vehicle traffic are you
[23:33] observing? How many cars? They're right through my house. Okay, I mean they
[23:38] stuck in my gate. They still stuck in my gate now. Okay, asking me and to open the
[23:43] I said, what more?
[23:44] He said, we've got our guns here with us.
[23:47] I said, this is not the camel, isn't it?
[23:49] We don't take care of dogs here.
[23:51] How about in the last month, how many people have gone
[23:54] and not gone your door?
[23:56] Let's say like in the last, I don't know, last two months,
[23:59] how many times have someone gone to go and not gone your door?
[24:02] Or ask if that's the place in the last month?
[24:05] They come by the house at least three times a week,
[24:08] three or four times a week.
[24:10] Now would, let's just say, right now,
[24:11] How does Ms. Burden have any sign or anything that has that that's her business, do you know?
[24:16] No, we've got a gate in front of my house.
[24:20] No, but do you know Ms. Burden has a sign that says that's for this place of business?
[24:25] Because we don't respect with this mask on it, I really can't.
[24:29] Okay.
[24:30] So does Ms. Burden have any sign or anything outside of her business saying like this is where
[24:36] her medicine?
[24:37] Not to my knowledge, no matter.
[24:38] So do you think that maybe that would solve the problem of people stopping your house?
[24:43] You don't think that would stop that would stop the problem of people stopping is it just because they don't know if it's in one house or the other
[24:49] Or is it because they don't know where the place is seems like it okay, and they're looking for it
[24:54] Okay, well, I think that would be
[24:58] I've had him honking at the middle of the night honking my house honking. I said who could it be you know, I go
[25:05] I see what it's all about, and it's telling me to open the gate to bring the dogs in and say, what dog?
[25:15] You don't really know dog in here. I got you.
[25:19] Can you hear the dogs in your house or just while you're outside?
[25:24] My dogs that are in New York, but it's all finished in.
[25:26] No, but the dogs from the kennel, can you hear them barking inside of your house or just when you're outside?
[25:32] I've heard him barking inside, and I've said that you are.
[25:35] OK.
[25:36] While you're inside the house, you get the dogs barking.
[25:39] While you're in the head inside.
[25:41] No, while you are inside.
[25:42] But I've heard dogs barking outside.
[25:44] And at the same time, they're barking,
[25:46] someone barking inside.
[25:48] When you're in your house, can you hear the dogs?
[25:52] When you are in your own house, can you hear their dogs barking,
[25:56] the dogs from the kennel?
[25:58] OK, hear them clearly all the time, OK.
[26:00] I mean, you're talking about, you're not talking about one or two dogs.
[26:04] You're talking about a whole bunch of dogs.
[26:07] They're all fighting and then somebody screaming at them to shut their mouths and do this
[26:13] and do that.
[26:14] It's a real nuisance.
[26:16] Is there an opportunity for each one of you to put a numerical address outside so it is visible
[26:22] when the people are coming? That way they won't stop at your gate anymore.
[26:26] Is that a possibility to put your address on your gate?
[26:29] I just ignore them. Would you believe that? No, I know. I understand. But they're still going to knock if they don't know where they are.
[26:35] If I have visitors, they call me. They say, hey, we're coming over or whatever. I'll open the gate for them. But lately, I've just been ignoring them.
[26:45] No, no, I know.
[26:46] Eventually, they'll get tired. On your gate, if there's an impossibility of putting the numerical address so that they don't stop or bother you anymore, is that a possibility?
[26:56] Well, we could put something up need be but it doesn't have to but the other one well the applicant
[27:02] Yeah, the applicant put the sign saying like this is where her business is I think that would just
[27:08] Eliminate that problem it would help but then the barking issue remains an issue
[27:12] As I said something like this would just benefit the community. It only benefit the owner of the property
[27:19] I've been there for over 30 years living so peaceful and now it's a big racket day in
[27:26] and day out, day in and day at night, day at night, day at night, day at night, day at night.
[27:30] I mean, when I was in arrest, I don't know if it's okay, any other questions?
[27:36] If there was a requirement, if this board were to consider the permit and put a requirement
[27:41] that she had to keep the dogs inside her own home, let's say by 7 p.m., would that help and
[27:49] that it would reduce the amount of news in all the parking throughout the day?
[27:53] Well, I'm saying, I mean, that's throughout the day.
[27:54] No, I don't know.
[27:55] I'm just saying, would you believe at least that's somehow, as opposed to no help at all?
[28:00] I find dogs parked all day.
[28:01] No, we don't do respect and don't want us to even know, sir.
[28:05] No.
[28:06] Do you understand?
[28:07] He gets out of hand.
[28:09] He gets out of hand.
[28:10] Do you understand that where the residents is located and the property that we're talking
[28:15] about is actually zoned and is permissible through a conditional use permit to allow a kennel
[28:22] With the requirement that it be five acres. So you understand that zoning is not the issue. It's the use of the property is the issue. Do you understand?
[28:31] Yes, sir. All right.
[28:34] Like I said, it's a real nightmare. If you want to see a nightmare go and live over there with me for a week or two and you can run it out all right.
[28:47] Okay. Any other questions?
[28:50] No.
[28:50] Okay. Thank you.
[28:51] And there's the other person that filed that position.
[28:54] Are they here in the room?
[28:56] Shall we send a letter?
[28:58] First off, were they within the 200 feet?
[29:03] On the neighbor across the street.
[29:08] Okay.
[29:09] Okay.
[29:10] Thank you, Mr. Hernandez.
[29:11] Thank you, sir.
[29:12] Thank you.
[29:13] Thank you all for your time.
[29:13] Okay. Yes, sir.
[29:14] Appreciate it.
[29:15] Mr. Burton's here.
[29:21] Could you just, you know, generally kind of address what was said in the last question?
[29:30] Yeah.
[29:31] You could probably, since there's nobody within 10 feet, you could probably do the, okay.
[29:35] Thank you.
[29:36] Okay.
[29:37] So to address what the gentleman said, first of all, I haven't been allowed to have a sign.
[29:43] So that probably would help take care of that issue for him.
[29:47] The other thing is that I have dogs indoors to sleep.
[29:52] Dogs are never outside past 9 o'clock and they sleep all indoors.
[29:57] His dogs do not sleep indoors, they are outdoors.
[30:07] I do not ever allow dogs to be barking continuously for any length of time, all at the same identical
[30:15] time and synchrony. So, I'm not sure what he's referring to in that situation. We do have
[30:22] the structured setup, we have an entire schedule that we follow throughout the day. So I'm not sure
[30:31] about why I need mentioning the structure. The traffic issue, I actually am the only place that's
[30:39] available in the community that has the hours available that I do. I'm actually open until 9th
[30:47] clock or 9.30 and I allow people to drop off their dogs throughout the day or or pick up
[30:54] their dogs throughout the day so that everyone is not coming at the same time like a school
[30:59] so that we don't have that traffic so nobody so everybody's not coming at the same time with like
[31:05] a long line or something they come to sporadically few at a time and the fact that we do have lots
[31:15] the dog should speak to the fact that the community is utilizing us because it's a necessary
[31:23] service in the community.
[31:26] In terms of, they inconvenience to him.
[31:30] He said that he can hear the dog in his home having a hard time believing that again.
[31:38] I will not ever allow dogs to bark continuously for a period of time because the level of a
[31:44] Rousal would be too high, and then you would have tension between the dogs, and so I know
[31:49] as having experience with dogs, that I would never be able to allow them and have them
[31:57] properly interact socially, awfully socially.
[32:01] We are the only person, the only business in the community that offers 100% page-free,
[32:08] but we're not the ones that are that to the idea.
[32:10] other big cities all have this option plenty of it and we don't hear in the community lots of people are moving from
[32:17] other areas all the time to our city
[32:21] Looking for this type of option and it's finally available not everybody wants to put their dog in a cage and I've found that
[32:30] large a large
[32:33] Group of people that have supported me that bring their dogs to me including
[32:39] being our congressman, I have a few on the school board, I have a-
[32:44] That doesn't matter.
[32:46] You're barking up the wrong tree here, okay?
[32:49] Absolutely.
[32:49] Let's see what you said.
[32:51] What I think don't you have the other day?
[32:54] The site up is generally in groups, about 15 per group.
[33:00] And it's to the small dog group and a big dog group and they're on separate sides of the house,
[33:05] the one in the front and one in the back.
[33:07] And how many times a day do I guess forever clean up after the dawn?
[33:11] Excuse me?
[33:12] How many times a day, or what time do you have to clean up after the dawn?
[33:15] Clean up?
[33:17] Continuously.
[33:18] Continuously.
[33:19] Yeah.
[33:20] They would step on it when they're running after the ball.
[33:23] If you're weird, always clean.
[33:25] There's not like a time we clean because you can't just leave it there.
[33:29] And the health code people already came that I keep it very, very clean place.
[33:34] I live there. It's my home. I've not been allowed to be all over my own home.
[33:41] I assume they're sorry. There's also the amount of money you have now, but at some point there's actually a demand in the community for the type of search you're providing.
[33:50] But there's also to be a limit to what you can intake at your site property, at your site facility, staff.
[33:57] I don't know if that's it. By the planning or is that something, what is your limit there that you can max out?
[34:03] What I've been hearing from it from planning and everybody who's at the size of the property and home
[34:09] Because because the dogs are endorsed as well and into a 2,800 square feet
[34:16] Indoor day. We're saying about
[34:20] 60 to 80 could be but I don't have 60 to 80 and in one time
[34:25] What's the maximum number of dogs that have been at your location at any time?
[34:35] I'm going to say probably 45 maybe when we have like a big event or something we would
[34:42] have three groups of 15 probably that's like when we have like our Easter eggs on
[34:50] or Christmas party or Valentine's Day event or the right groups all day or three groups
[34:58] different times altogether?
[35:02] Well, people come throughout the day, so why not be the same number in the morning as it is in the evening?
[35:08] In fact, actually, that brings me to a point.
[35:11] I do doggy day care and boring.
[35:13] Doggy day care ends at seven o'clock.
[35:16] And it definitely dogs that stay over are the ones that are boarding.
[35:19] And that number is always considered really smaller than during the day.
[35:23] So during the day of until 7 o'clock is when I have the majority of dogs and all
[35:29] what it does is stay indoors overnight. Yes that's right. And how many
[35:33] ported dogs do you normally have? It can vary from 1 to 25 but it just depends and
[35:40] you're open seven days a week. We are we're always open and you've been in the
[35:44] middle of the night.
[35:47] I try to accommodate all schedules so I try to work with my
[35:50] appliances as much as I can and that also helps to avoid traffic issues.
[35:54] How long have you been at that site? How did you pick that site?
[35:58] I've been there for coming on two years or like a year and a half
[36:02] and we have been applying for the permits since this entire time
[36:06] but we were table to end these planning department
[36:10] for some time because they were trying to figure out
[36:14] what kind of permit I could apply for.
[36:16] And we've been there for a year and a half and was looking for a property in nearby, so I wouldn't lose a clientele in the general area, so I thought this property was for sale, and it was in the right zone.
[36:33] I consulted an attorney, and we decided it was in the right zone, so I was able to apply.
[36:42] So, we were doing a home occupation permit initially and then we were advised by the city prosecutor to switch it to a dog kennel with a variance.
[36:58] And did you immediately apply for that home occupation when you bought the house or did you wait some time?
[37:04] No, because the, we waited because the zone, the climate people that I've been working
[37:10] with this entire time to have told this guy that we didn't make their requirements
[37:15] and they would, they weren't allowing it to go forward.
[37:21] We've been applying this whole time and talking to them, they wouldn't let our people work
[37:25] to be on that point until the city prosecutor informed him that I was under the right zoning
[37:35] area so that I could move forward.
[37:39] If the sport were to consider and grant a variance and allow you a permit, would your
[37:45] operation or business be hampered if you were required to have the dogs inside your residence
[37:51] by no later, let's say 7 p.m. or 8 p.m.?
[37:53] No, that would be fine.
[37:54] They are, obviously, inside at their set of PMs.
[37:57] It's like a pretty exhausting mission.
[37:59] They've been inside, and generally, they're exhausted, too.
[38:03] They care, so they're staying indoors.
[38:06] That's about when we feed them.
[38:07] So we bring them inside, we take each.
[38:09] We give them one last fight, or we can go to sleep.
[38:12] And if there was a condition on the corner,
[38:15] that your offers or cooperation would be more limited,
[38:18] because you're saying that you're pretty much open at any time.
[38:21] Let's say where the cutout would be 7.30 or 8, you couldn't start receiving any earlier
[38:28] than 6 in the morning or 7.
[38:30] Would that severely impact or affect your business?
[38:34] No, that is fine.
[38:35] We don't receive documents for 7 in the morning.
[38:38] I'm not into the morning person.
[38:39] And if there are conditions also where to cap the number of dogs that know more than 50,
[38:43] is that something that wouldn't crimp your business or hamper your business?
[38:47] It would hamper my business absolutely.
[38:48] I pay over $2,000 dollars and mortgage.
[38:52] Okay, but when I asked you earlier, you said on the typical,
[38:56] the maximum amount of dollars you've had has been 50,
[39:00] and maybe the most you've had at any one time has been 25 boarding.
[39:03] We're talking about a total of 75 dollars.
[39:05] Yeah.
[39:06] Okay.
[39:07] Wait, wait, I'm sorry.
[39:08] Can you repeat the question?
[39:09] Yeah, I think you have 75 dollars.
[39:10] You had answered 50 at any given time.
[39:14] Yeah, 50 at any given time.
[39:15] That's your highest number.
[39:16] Yeah, not 75.
[39:17] Okay.
[39:18] I know about that.
[39:19] It's the.
[39:22] Do you know, if you can go.
[39:23] Yeah, I'm okay.
[39:25] Yeah.
[39:28] I don't know.
[39:34] You average your average is 30 to 35.
[39:37] I would.
[39:38] During the day.
[39:39] And then if anybody evening, it will be, you know, it will be
[39:42] dropped to about eight or nine year in the week.
[39:44] So no more than 50.
[39:46] And then that's where I'm going outside after 8.
[39:49] I think 8 PM?
[39:49] 7 PM.
[39:50] I think 8 PM.
[39:52] I think 8 PM.
[39:54] I'll just throw that out there.
[39:55] What time do you guys let your dogs out for the last party break?
[40:01] 10 o'clock in the night.
[40:03] All three dogs at 10 o'clock at night.
[40:06] I guess it wouldn't have been just, I mean, after 8 is not for play.
[40:10] Like for play time outside after 8.
[40:12] But I mean, if they have to go into the necessities, then I mean that's fine.
[40:16] Okay, so for play time.
[40:20] What I have to do, I think we have strings requirements actually.
[40:24] Even though congratulations, I think we're doing a wonderful job.
[40:27] We have a lot of supporters.
[40:29] The only issue though, that supporters don't live next to you.
[40:32] They go drop off the dog.
[40:33] So we have to take Mr. Hernandez's interest in consideration.
[40:37] Correct.
[40:38] So should we do or should the council commission wish to do something?
[40:42] I think we need to put some strict requirements
[40:46] and limit it to a year or should there be any issues.
[40:50] Of course, you're subject to being shut down.
[40:53] I think it is very, very difficult.
[40:55] Yeah, I think it is a year.
[40:56] Can I be less than a year?
[40:59] You're getting a variance you could be whatever you want.
[41:02] Well, I think the first thing we do is get an address
[41:04] on somebody's house with data.
[41:05] There's no more consideration.
[41:07] If you were going to see you be able to do a little
[41:08] whatever sign for me.
[41:10] Well, even the ones you buy at age
[41:16] I mean, I mean, dogs no matter what, you can have a 10-foot wall and yours to an arrow.
[41:22] That's my question.
[41:24] My answer was a name for every day.
[41:27] I don't have any more questions here.
[41:29] Okay. Anybody else have any questions?
[41:31] So the variance is...
[41:45] I don't think that's the issue here.
[41:47] I don't think the kind of care...
[41:48] I don't think the kind of care is giving you the issue here.
[41:51] It's a variance. The ordinance is at 500 feet and 300 feet and in quite frankly, I don't know my understanding is barking dog violations have been and this was kind of the staff's.
[42:02] Trying to remedy the situation because there is a barking dog ordinance in the city that applied to your house and everybody else's house city.
[42:10] But I don't think it's a question of the care that the person is giving it's the location is the issue.
[42:25] You don't you don't live next to her either so I mean you can't do it. That's it.
[42:31] We can be here all day on that.
[42:33] Okay.
[42:34] Make a motion to approve.
[42:37] For one year a condition use the permit at 6820 North Taylor.
[42:42] For the purpose of operating a dog kennel.
[42:46] and running a variance to the five acre requirement.
[42:50] Also make a condition that dogs must retire at the end
[42:53] of the evening by 8 p.m. inside the home,
[42:56] that the total number of dogs during any time
[42:58] of given day be no more than 50,
[43:01] that there'd be a limitation on the drop off
[43:03] and pick up time no earlier than six, no later than eight,
[43:07] and that of course that the applicant adhere
[43:09] to all parking requirements is required by code enforcement,
[43:13] and should be required to have a business sign within the requirements and ordinances of the
[43:21] sign ordinance of the city, McAllen.
[43:23] And I believe you missed the after eight only for four.
[43:27] Oh, yeah, of course, after eight, yeah, for necessities.
[43:30] Yeah, I would have taken that motion.
[43:33] Okay, and for discussion.
[43:35] Here none.
[43:36] All in favor raise your hand.
[43:38] All right.
[43:41] I'll pose raise your hand.
[43:45] Do
[43:51] we need a supermajority or something?
[43:53] Yeah.
[43:53] The motion pal?
[43:55] Yeah.
[43:55] Okay.
[44:01] Okay.
[44:02] That's the end of the public hearing.
[44:04] Oh, we have items two.
[44:06] Men is only in ordinance for item two.
[44:08] A one.
[44:14] But is that meant?
[44:15] That is permit spend tonight.
[44:20] The condition your permit spend tonight takes six votes.
[44:24] You want your C five?
[44:24] Can you explain that to her, what's the requirement?
[44:27] Well, I mean, the staff recommendations know the 300-year-old next to the house.
[44:31] You know, you also have the sanctity of the person next door, 50 dogs is a lot of dogs.
[44:37] I understand I have two dogs.
[44:39] I can't keep them from barking and I make sure I protect my neighbors from that as much as I can.
[44:45] My neighbors have dogs and they bark and that's an issue in neighborhoods.
[44:49] And I think, you know, this gentleman's lived here 30 years.
[44:51] and the staff recommendation and PNZ's recommendation is negative and I don't I don't doubt you provide great services it's just
[45:00] And within 300 feet of a house, everything's zone-day, oh, out there. And so that was a condition used from it was kind of a compromise to the barking dog violation ordinance. And it went through PNZ. And I don't disagree with the PUZ unless there was some evidence that pertain to the variance. And that's why there's 300 feet requirement for that very reason. So I apologize, but that's why I didn't.
[45:27] You know in the future where I'd like to see maybe through the onus committee looked also on the the acreage because five acres is pretty
[45:33] Lot, you know, so canals aren't there to grace dogs and cats. Yeah, I don't have as much from with the five acres
[45:38] I did with the three hundred three
[45:40] All right
[45:41] You know, where can we reconsider like this instead of like a whole year do it like like comment you said six months
[45:47] See how see how they're working. I'm fine with that and if you know give her a chance to
[45:56] I think we'll be here next year again and I think, you know, it's not a great location.
[46:01] I'm not sure if she knows to figure out, you know, using doves and corrections and, um,
[46:08] but I don't, I mean, if we deny her, she's out of the shop tomorrow.
[46:12] Yeah, and her and her employees.
[46:14] Well, if you want to make a motion, if you want to make a motion for six months,
[46:17] I'll make a motion with all the recitals I made previously.
[46:19] But with a caveat that we come back, it only be a permit for six months
[46:26] Update all your restrictions and right all the other
[46:30] Resettles I stated about the fine and the number and the time-guarded operation for six months
[46:38] Okay, I'll second second for second. Okay. I'll have a favor raise your hand. All right motion carried
[46:48] Okay
[46:49] Okay.
[46:56] Yes.
[46:57] Yes.
[46:58] For six months.
[46:58] Just make sure everything's okay for six months.
[47:12] Okay.
[47:12] I'll understand motion to approve amend the rezoning ordinance for items two A1, recognize that
[47:19] two B's in or two and that was table.
[47:21] Take that out of the ordinance.
[47:24] Move.
[47:24] So moved.
[47:25] Okay.
[47:26] I'm fair to say aye.
[47:27] Aye.
[47:28] Opposed same side.
[47:29] Motion carried.
[47:30] Public hearings over.
[47:32] Well, the consent agenda.
[47:33] and I would obviously be taken off the consent agenda for discussion.
[47:37] You've got a public hearing of the CDBG.
[47:40] Oh, I'm sorry.
[47:41] Public hearing to consider the 2020-2021
[47:45] one-year action plan for CDBG, this is a public hearing only.
[47:57] Okay,
[48:01] go ahead.
[48:02] Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Commission.
[48:04] My name is Athanasu Nohosa and I am the Secretary of the Community Development Council with me is one of my colleagues.
[48:13] The agenda item before you is a public hearing regarding the draft of the fiscal year 2020-2021-1 year action plan.
[48:20] The agenda item also contains recommendations of the Community Development Advisory Council for the use of CDBG and Home Investment Partnership.
[48:27] under 100 regulations, construction, public services, and administration are eligible services activities.
[48:37] This year the committee was presented with 37 applications for CDBG and home funding,
[48:43] totaling more than 3.7 million of these applications.
[48:48] We received 2.3 million in request for construction and housing projects with $1,100,000 to award.
[48:57] In addition, we received 496,483 requests for social service projects with only 255,000 available.
[49:07] The home application's total, 600,000 with 524,000 to be awarded.
[49:13] In an effort to provide you with our best recommendation, we did hold public hearings and
[49:19] interview agencies and department staff.
[49:21] We also took into consideration recaptured funds, reports submitted,
[49:26] a number of clients who would benefit and the type of activity.
[49:30] We as a CD board would like to thank you, the mayor, and city commissioners for
[49:34] a confidence in us to be part of this process to handle CDBG and
[49:39] the participation process, granting us the opportunity to make this recommendation.
[49:44] We take great pride in serving this great city in town.
[49:47] Please note that the final approval of this budget is tentatively scheduled for
[49:51] or Monday, July, the 13th.
[49:53] If you have any questions about our recommendation,
[49:55] we'd be glad to respond at this time.
[49:58] Okay.
[50:00] Any questions?
[50:01] Did you post,
[50:02] I want you to have the location in our map over there.
[50:12] Any members from the public here to comment
[50:14] on the proposed CBDG funding
[50:17] for the next fiscal year, going
[50:22] once,
[50:24] going twice.
[50:25] Any comments from the City Commission?
[50:26] I have a quick question.
[50:29] The sidewalk and the government that weren't recommended,
[50:35] is that over at Las Palmas Community Center,
[50:37] or is that, it's kind of much to know where wrong that was.
[50:43] I guess that's not so much the further noise of that.
[50:49] While she looks for the location of that,
[50:52] I'll just let you know that the way that we prioritize
[50:54] the sidewalk project, there were three came from our asking
[51:00] of which projects were main priority and so because of the limited availability of funding,
[51:08] we want to make sure that we prioritize the project from most important to least important.
[51:13] And you want to finish a whole project first, right?
[51:16] So that's all these.
[51:17] Yes, sir.
[51:18] Absolutely.
[51:19] Right. We didn't want to start a project and not finish that project.
[51:22] We wanted to do a project to decrease.
[51:24] Absolutely.
[51:24] Yeah, that's good.
[51:39] Thank you very much and we'll see you at budget time, send with public hearing, thank you.
[51:44] Next item is a consent agenda. Any items you've taken off the consent agenda for additional
[51:54] Okay. Any other ones?
[52:08] Okay. Here are none other 10. Emotion to prove item 3A, B, D through
[52:13] G. Motion to approve. Second. Second. I was able to say aye. Aye.
[52:25] All right.
[52:28] I assume this is basically the 2.6 that we approved to the development board, correct?
[52:38] We only got 2.9.
[52:40] Right.
[52:41] So the 2.6 was our estimate.
[52:45] Okay.
[52:45] When we went out to bid it, we actually found it in this contract, which has already been.
[52:52] So it's excellent point.
[52:53] We're going to have to use this figure in it in order to move forward.
[52:58] And this is actually a State Agency, Robert?
[53:01] Yes, it's under the Texas D.I.
[53:03] Cooper to purchase?
[53:04] Okay.
[53:05] Through Cooper to purchase, but it's not a State Agency that's doing the installation
[53:09] or anything.
[53:10] No.
[53:11] Okay.
[53:11] It's a combination of a local vendor's and a front data with the company's Office D.I.
[53:16] Under the D.I.
[53:19] Okay.
[53:19] Okay, Robert is from Theta Consulting going to prioritize our installation.
[53:26] Do they have any other municipality that they're going to be working on at the same time?
[53:30] Do you know?
[53:31] Talking to Drew, who is actually sitting in the lobby, you know, we are his primary right
[53:38] now.
[53:39] We're trying to get a thousand of these living here like holes active by August 31st.
[53:45] Great.
[53:46] We talked about this at the budget workshop where we said that, you know, the original you said it could possibly be 600 feet, that 300 feet, most our telephone lines are within 300.
[53:56] So are you going to do an experiment first to make sure to see what the real range is in neighborhoods?
[54:03] Yes. Drew and I both have already been out looking at different neighborhoods. Drew is doing a wireless assessment right now.
[54:08] you know, we, you know, for example, in the district green, we have 1,400, you know,
[54:14] looking at light poles.
[54:15] You know, there, we may not put a light on an axis point on every pole, because they're
[54:20] close together.
[54:21] We may have some poles that are too far apart.
[54:23] Well, we just have to run and do one or two stop divisions, residents.
[54:28] In that sense, you're going to start working.
[54:29] The motion was also that South Mac Allen was South of Pecan.
[54:33] Yep, and that's the directive that I gave through that we've been focused on.
[54:37] There's much focus on South of Picon, those are the underserved neighborhoods and that way
[54:43] we can view a couple of birds in real life.
[54:47] And then those are priorities.
[54:49] Yeah, what is that plan to develop in Robert and Drew, will we, if we improve this, we'll
[54:54] just move forward, will we get a presentation on what areas are being covered, which form
[55:00] we can be located where, how is that?
[55:03] Could have run out of money on every street just putting it on every goal that's no good, right?
[55:11] Go ahead, Drew.
[55:13] Drew's here, Robert.
[55:14] Yeah, that'd be good.
[55:15] So we could answer that.
[55:16] I want to make sure that we get coverage in areas that are obviously most at least, but you know,
[55:23] there's quite a lot of areas that are full of commercial districts that probably don't need
[55:27] as much as the residential areas or the parks or public areas.
[55:31] So, we don't want to lose resources on solar panels.
[55:35] Yeah, I'm not eating it as much as we can spend other areas.
[55:38] Correct. The first thing that we do is a design and engineering survey where we bring
[55:46] into account all of the poles and all the assets that are available to us in order for us to
[55:51] make sure that we know where that cover is going to be located and then we use that to design
[55:55] around the equipment that we order to make sure that it fits where it's supposed to.
[55:59] for example we don't cover areas like commercial areas or industrial zones
[56:03] that don't need it but we specify it directly into areas that do need it same as
[56:07] with vacant lots parking lots things like that if you'd like to make that if
[56:11] you'd like me to make that available I'll be more than happy to do that well right
[56:16] now I know there's some areas that service the Wilson Elementary School
[56:20] and kids and I know some of the areas already that they're not getting
[56:25] So maybe I don't know if the principal is in the office or there's a way that you can contact so that they can find out because I know that was addressed.
[56:35] Correct. What we can do is we can look at the existing map that's available.
[56:38] I know Robert has one online where we can look at all the current coverage areas and we do take those into account to make sure we don't double up.
[56:45] That doesn't it doesn't make any sense.
[56:46] Okay.
[56:50] Okay. Okay. All right. So then I have motion to approve.
[56:54] Motion to approve. Thank you. I was in favor. Raise your hand.
[56:58] Opposed? Same time. Motion carried. Thank you. Item 4A.
[57:02] A is consideration and authorization to rescind a water contract with the Macon Public Safety Building,
[57:10] Monument Science and real estate.
[57:15] I'm sorry sir. How much does it cost per day?
[57:19] There's a cost to, well, for this particular one, we didn't reap it.
[57:24] I know, but I must do the cost to reap it.
[57:27] There's an advertising price purchasing.
[57:30] Does it, so I'm not too sure, and then the man hours to put those things together?
[57:34] Well, the things are already done, so it's just, it's not a redoing it.
[57:38] Because I'm more interested in...
[57:43] don't feel like a child college or anything.
[57:46] Because the companies already know what it is.
[57:48] If they come back, they're going to come back lower.
[57:51] So, if the actual cost is $1,000, I think they're all rebelling.
[57:58] What was the reason for rescinding the bid?
[58:01] Oh, instead of going with the next little bit
[58:02] or your signature bid, I'm sorry.
[58:04] Let's try it all over you.
[58:07] We could, what we tend to see, though,
[58:10] in the ones we have rebid, they see what the bids are,
[58:14] and the next ones are kind of close to each other.
[58:17] They just, I believe, one of their items
[58:19] might have been off. I think we'll see that the next two bidders are pretty close
[58:25] to each other. So we'll probably be within that same range. But we're here to do
[58:31] us as as your request. We could do either way. They do their homework in
[58:35] chances or they're going to come out on a complete. But my to answer commission
[58:40] or Joaquin's question we're rescinding it because he's withdrawn his bid. Oh yeah
[58:46] That's a little bit.
[58:48] You know, one-o-six.
[58:50] And that was one-o-six, right?
[58:52] One hundred and six thousand.
[58:53] And then the next one will be the one-twenty-three.
[58:55] What's your name?
[58:56] We're talking the one-twenty-six.
[58:57] You're a holler of it's more.
[58:58] One-twenty-three, six, fifteen, and it's four-year-old.
[59:01] Okay.
[59:02] Two.
[59:02] Do we forfeit the bid ban?
[59:04] We're doing that.
[59:05] We're in a process of doing it.
[59:06] That's a remedy.
[59:07] Yes.
[59:07] Forfeit the bid ban, so.
[59:09] So, we have any confusion?
[59:11] Huh?
[59:11] Well, how much is the amount of the bond?
[59:13] Do we know?
[59:14] It's a difference.
[59:14] I assume you're referring to the yüzio.
[59:22] Yeah, but it's the majority of the camp commission.
[59:27] Right, so we're right.
[59:28] The low bidder has recended the bid and when we're requesting it's to award to the next low bidder.
[59:35] So not advertised again the too award to the next low bidder.
[59:39] Is there real urgency to have this complete with this but you're we've been doing quite a bit of work at PD
[59:44] I don't know if you all have noticed with of course the parking garage and then the badge and so this is part of that
[59:51] I'm gonna say facelift to the facility so we would like to get this moving
[1:00:00] It would just be that advertising, I think you mentioned it's about a thousand and we advertise it twice about two thousand. One here from the bankers. I'm just wondering if it's, if it's necessary. You know, I mean, it's, I mean, it's a big difference. I mean, you see, really the only thing different here is that we're acknowledging that it's the jail. I'm just wondering how necessary.
[1:00:29] the design is there at the PD, please don't know.
[1:00:34] Oh, you're saying to go ahead and advertise again?
[1:00:36] I mean, we're here if that is your wish,
[1:00:39] we can certainly do that.
[1:00:41] We can go back to that.
[1:00:41] How much is it going to go down?
[1:00:43] I mean, what's going to be the decrease?
[1:00:44] We don't know.
[1:00:45] We don't know.
[1:00:46] But the difference is like from the 1 to 3 minus the 1 or 6,
[1:00:50] that's a 17, like about a $17,000 difference.
[1:00:53] And then the cost of the cost of the marketing
[1:00:55] will be $1,000.
[1:00:57] I was actually asking, you know, how
[1:00:58] how necessary the sign is, how much, how much is going to add to our bill, to the building
[1:01:04] that's there?
[1:01:04] That's one more.
[1:01:05] It's about 40 years.
[1:01:07] So I have an interest in it.
[1:01:08] One of the first, I had that whole building in the library was it did not have a street
[1:01:13] sign on it.
[1:01:14] So that was a kind of a makeover of that, it's a metal thing that has fallen part of the
[1:01:19] building.
[1:01:20] So that's why we're going to be fixed, mine or something.
[1:01:29] We're fixing lots of different things with this project.
[1:01:33] One of them is all the lighting in the parking lot, but it's a part.
[1:01:36] So, we're going to describe it in English.
[1:01:41] I'll apply some sidewalk lines.
[1:01:45] Very nice.
[1:01:46] We're going to have a few lines.
[1:01:48] Not only the sidewalk, but also the back parking lot
[1:01:51] that was not touched by anyone running for parking lots.
[1:01:54] So, it's misleading in the sense that we're looking at an on-hand side.
[1:01:58] But an on-hand side project includes all the lighting,
[1:02:01] removal of some bolts, adding some sidewalk lighting
[1:02:07] Okay, great, and the funding sources from
[1:02:12] property money.
[1:02:14] So the difference is, we're hoping we'll cover
[1:02:18] 56 on another or so.
[1:02:20] Which is about the difference between the original
[1:02:23] open and the next phase, the variation of the
[1:02:32] Well, at these financial times, I think we can save a little bit even though we expand
[1:02:40] maybe a few weeks.
[1:02:41] I think that's going to be $123, and we're going to send you a doubt.
[1:02:45] Okay.
[1:02:46] What's the motion?
[1:02:47] I like a motion to take the second and highest, better.
[1:02:50] I'll second.
[1:02:50] Okay.
[1:02:51] Any further discussion?
[1:02:53] Here none.
[1:02:53] I'll never say aye.
[1:02:55] Aye.
[1:02:56] Opposed?
[1:02:56] Same time motion, Kerry.
[1:02:57] Okay.
[1:02:58] Opposed?
[1:02:58] four. Oh, we're opposed. Okay. Two opposed. Okay. Let's 1, 2, 3, 2, okay.
[1:03:06] All right.
[1:03:08] Three, two, those are one and three to two. Yeah. Oh, four. We're more than this. This
[1:03:16] I have my certificate for the test.
[1:03:22] Fifty, two.
[1:03:24] Yeah.
[1:03:24] Fist off.
[1:03:24] If I get two, you're officially won.
[1:03:28] Four-stride and divided.
[1:03:28] Four-stride, five-toes.
[1:03:28] Five-toes.
[1:03:29] Five-toes.
[1:03:29] Four-stride, five-toes.
[1:03:32] Seven members, yeah.
[1:03:33] The mayor.
[1:03:34] You're going to disregard.
[1:03:36] You have to vote too?
[1:03:37] No, I can't get to vote, because it's for the two.
[1:03:39] So, county vote when it's necessary, break the tie or make a tie.
[1:03:43] Oh, why need you now.
[1:03:47] Actually, on the dog one, I didn't have to vote because it wasn't six votes, so, if I
[1:03:52] just said I wasn't voting, you wouldn't.
[1:03:53] Okay, we're not going back to that one.
[1:03:56] Okay.
[1:03:57] Even at the city.
[1:03:58] Yeah, that's, we're done.
[1:03:59] Okay, so that's a B.
[1:04:02] B's procidoration and Authorization of Extension of Contract from the Guarawatts for Consulting
[1:04:06] Services.
[1:04:06] This is American Commission, McGuire Woods is our consultant for legislative issues and other in Austin.
[1:04:15] They have been with the City of McAllen for about five years, four or five years, and you've got a proposal here to extend their contract in talking to McGuire Woods.
[1:04:26] They actually have agreed to reducing their fee by $1,500 a month, which is $18,000 a year from $6,500 a month to $5,000 a month.
[1:04:36] And that's the only thing I don't like is the second to the last paragraph, but really
[1:04:42] doesn't make much of a difference.
[1:04:45] And I would like to know what was, because I remember this was just when I started as
[1:04:50] commissioner.
[1:04:52] Like, what was the difference between that time and this time to justify us giving them
[1:04:58] their contract again?
[1:04:59] Because I remember, if I recall, that last, that, me, we had them, it was like, okay, so
[1:05:05] So they got the from Geeta and there was other stuff.
[1:05:08] So I would actually like for them to come.
[1:05:11] It was a presentation of what they did since last time
[1:05:16] to this time, that was different from the previous years.
[1:05:20] And this is I remember, it was one of the first couple
[1:05:23] meetings that I had as a commissioner.
[1:05:24] I was like, no, no, no, no.
[1:05:26] And I get it, they want to reduce their fees.
[1:05:29] But I would like to really know what they did this last year.
[1:05:33] That was the difference.
[1:05:34] that made the difference. So I rather put them on a workshop. Make a make a
[1:05:38] motion to table it subject to workshop. I moved to table and that we have this
[1:05:42] working workshop. Before we vote so what when is the contract end? Do we have
[1:05:47] time? For a year. Where does it end for them now? At the end of June. So next week.
[1:05:54] Next meeting. Next meeting. So we don't eat them in the month of July because there's
[1:05:58] no until August. We need them year-round. Okay so we need can we
[1:06:04] Well, I'm sure to wait to the next meeting.
[1:06:07] That's not a bad thing.
[1:06:08] But I don't know whether we want them here though.
[1:06:10] Just to do something because it's expensive to get them here.
[1:06:14] We can do.
[1:06:15] Well, I think it's not important to get them here.
[1:06:16] No, I think it's important because I remember
[1:06:18] this was a big issue when I first got here because they
[1:06:21] did give us a brief summary of what they had done.
[1:06:24] And we're like, OK, well, what else did you do for us?
[1:06:27] And then so now that the year has left,
[1:06:30] I want to know what they did different from last year
[1:06:33] to this year to justify us giving them their contract again.
[1:06:37] Mayor, I'm in agreement to table a non-OK or an open to doing the Zoom, but I would like
[1:06:42] to see a PowerPoint presentation and have that PowerPoint presentation made available
[1:06:47] to us before the meeting so that we have adequate time before the meeting so we can review
[1:06:52] and ask those questions and make it more expeditious because I do agree with your concerns.
[1:06:56] And I know there's a lot of local lobbyists that would like to have an opportunity to throw
[1:07:02] bit for this type of contract and I think we should open it up but first that's why last year I
[1:07:07] told them you guys better show what you got and if you don't show it we're gonna open up a bit
[1:07:14] and we're gonna hopefully we'll have other people to represent the city of Macau. So hopefully they did
[1:07:19] it they hopefully they showed them the results different from last year. So my question at the same time
[1:07:27] So because we're going to have a workshop which is fine, I agree.
[1:07:31] Can I just make a suggestion?
[1:07:32] Well, I know how you're in the meantime, we have one more week with them.
[1:07:37] We're going to have no contract.
[1:07:41] Well, extended for one month.
[1:07:43] Yeah, well just extended for the next one.
[1:07:45] So that's included in your motion extended for one month.
[1:07:47] Have a workshop.
[1:07:48] And just be clear, I recommend that it not be a workshop, that it would be an executive session.
[1:07:53] We discuss a lot over the years.
[1:07:56] Yeah, we can go in an executive session during the workshop when they get that
[1:07:59] here. They can provide us a presentation about what they've been doing in a
[1:08:03] video. Sure. No, yeah, there's things you want to discuss. But they'll be
[1:08:07] appropriate. We'll get the City Attorney's Advice going executive session. They
[1:08:10] can come and give us a presentation that I just posted when I worked. I think
[1:08:15] they'll be glad to be here. I think they were going to be here today and I suggest
[1:08:18] that it was unnecessary. Oh, okay. One of them's from here.
[1:08:26] Okay motion to table with all those conditions with extension in one month of the contract. All those in favor say aye aye
[1:08:31] I always say I motion carried wrote just one point of clarification. We're requiring to be here present in person. Yes, we're I think it's yeah, I think that's important. Well, we're saying that we're not thankful. No, okay. No problem. That was easy. See. Thank you.
[1:08:48] Consideration approval of contract amendment number four for additional professional services and I'm going to do it more
[1:08:53] This is at the request of CBP. Is that correct?
[1:09:01] Second okay motion and second any questions here none I was a fair say aye. Hi motion same motion carried D
[1:09:09] My centennial blue line bridge improvements
[1:09:13] Yes, sir, so for this what we're calling through a drainage
[1:09:18] bond project. We received two bids on June 4th and this project consists of bridge improvements
[1:09:24] of four locations along by Centennial. The locations are at Harvey, Highland, Lubby, St.
[1:09:29] Temerak. Staff recommends a word of contract to the low-responsive bidder for each project and it
[1:09:36] just so happens to be the same bidder, go underground, LLC, Harlow, and Texas. In the total bid amount of
[1:09:42] one million five million, sorry, in a total bit amount of $4,692,930.74.
[1:09:49] Can you tell us just a little bit what we're doing there?
[1:09:52] Yes, ma'am.
[1:09:52] We are installing box culverts at those bridge locations.
[1:09:58] So we're doing modifications to those bridges.
[1:10:02] At Harvey, Lovey Stent, and Tamarack, at Highland,
[1:10:05] we are removing that bridge and replacing it
[1:10:09] with a pedestrian bridge.
[1:10:10] That's a roadway that we have closed off with a bicycle
[1:10:13] project several years back.
[1:10:15] So we're eliminating that bridge up for there.
[1:10:18] And we are coming in with box culverts at those three,
[1:10:21] Harvey Lovey-Stat-Anne.
[1:10:23] And a box culvert, a concrete box.
[1:10:27] So 12 by 12 box and at Harvey and Lovey-Stat-Anne,
[1:10:31] it's 10 by 10 box ads.
[1:10:33] There's a water then just flow in the ditch,
[1:10:35] the open ditch on the other side,
[1:10:37] on the east side of the bicycle tenure, or what?
[1:10:38] So it's going, instead of having a bridge structure, we're going to have boxes connecting
[1:10:43] the.
[1:10:43] I can close into the ditch.
[1:10:45] Okay.
[1:10:45] It goes north.
[1:10:46] It's going to become like Marlana, right?
[1:10:49] Is that what?
[1:10:49] Yes.
[1:10:50] And then, and Highlands is going to be just a pedestrian bridge.
[1:10:54] Highlands is going to be just a pedestrian bridge.
[1:10:56] Is it, is it improve the drainage or just the mechanism then?
[1:10:59] So those, those existing bridge structures needed repair and to reduce the amount of repair
[1:11:06] in the future, we're coming in with a box.
[1:11:09] So these are not new drainage.
[1:11:12] No, they're just improved.
[1:11:13] That's their maintenance.
[1:11:15] Oh, okay, okay.
[1:11:17] Okay, any other questions?
[1:11:19] Intertain a motion to approve?
[1:11:20] No, I'll approve.
[1:11:21] The second, I was in favor say aye.
[1:11:23] Aye.
[1:11:24] Oh, the same time motion carried.
[1:11:26] What is it?
[1:11:27] Okay, so we did?
[1:11:29] Did we do this?
[1:11:29] No, we didn't.
[1:11:30] This is for the General Fund Mayor,
[1:11:32] providing for a budget amendment to the General Fund.
[1:11:35] It was suggested again by the City Commission that we bring this sooner rather than later.
[1:11:40] So based on the mental that we put together a few months back, and what we've seen so
[1:11:47] far on expenses and revenues and the last self-touch report, we're recommending that at
[1:11:53] a minimum we do a budget amendment and the amount of pre-region 350,494 to come from fund balance
[1:12:02] in order to balance the budget.
[1:12:05] In addition to that, you want you to consider removing the hold of the CIP projects.
[1:12:11] Those are projects that all of you voted on during budget.
[1:12:14] They're all important.
[1:12:15] Not all of them are important to everyone, but all of them are important to somebody.
[1:12:21] And so we can either go through the list.
[1:12:25] How many projects are there?
[1:12:26] There it's it's this long list of projects. We recommend that we remove the whole on all of them and if you do that
[1:12:42] would be an additional
[1:12:43] $2.843 million and that would mean
[1:12:50] Going into the reserve fund in the amount of six million one hundred ninety three thousand
[1:12:56] $861.
[1:12:57] Do you recommend the option to?
[1:12:59] Yes.
[1:12:59] So how many days were that leave us in?
[1:13:02] One, two.
[1:13:03] Over the requirement.
[1:13:04] 170.
[1:13:05] Okay.
[1:13:06] And we're going to recoup that or play that.
[1:13:08] No, that's for the first one.
[1:13:10] How?
[1:13:11] I think it's $1.16.
[1:13:13] You know, $1.59.
[1:13:14] $1.17 is here.
[1:13:15] $1.16.
[1:13:16] $1.16.
[1:13:17] We're not, we won't recoup it.
[1:13:19] The only upside would be that our forecast is,
[1:13:24] This is worse than reality shows us in the next few months, which we all hope in
[1:13:30] the last week's report, that's a possibility, but that's still what we recommend.
[1:13:36] What's our forecast?
[1:13:38] How does it look in terms of Philips Act revenue per month?
[1:13:41] We were projecting about a 40% decrease for the rest of the year, and well, in terms of
[1:13:52] I guess June, July, August and September, so we have come on up, so let's go ahead and
[1:13:59] come here.
[1:14:00] In terms of the next four months, I'm wondering how our projections look in terms
[1:14:09] of what has happened in the last months or so that how does it compare?
[1:14:13] The original projections for, I think, believe March and April sales tax based on the percentage we have on retail makes about 70% of those sales tax that we collected and with the assumption of the closures and the stay home orders, you know, I had this made about 41% losses of sales tax those first two March April May and then trying to smooth it out with businesses reopening to an average of 25%.
[1:14:41] 5% from March sales tax through September sales tax.
[1:14:47] And so the forecast eventually smoothed out about roughly 25%, but for those first few
[1:14:52] months where we anticipated retail to take care, I was estimating 41%.
[1:14:58] So June 2st
[1:15:00] September, we're I don't know anticipating 25% less than same month prior year. It may be a slightly favorable estimate because at the front of those 40% they can't remember how I tapered it off towards the end. I think those increments of 15%. So you end up at 35, 25, 15. Of course, all this is without Mexico shoppers because they push back.
[1:15:29] to July 22nd at this point, right?
[1:15:33] So we have the March numbers, right?
[1:15:35] March in line?
[1:15:36] Yes, we have April's, which was I think a 30% less than last year's.
[1:15:43] Well, what do we have?
[1:15:44] It was a little, it was a 10% better.
[1:15:47] Yeah, it was a 10% better, right?
[1:15:48] Yes.
[1:15:49] Okay.
[1:15:49] What are we at for May?
[1:15:51] Do you have a reference?
[1:15:52] Nothing yet.
[1:15:53] We won't have those till July, around the second week of July.
[1:15:56] We're being conservative, I guess, with our budget numbers.
[1:15:58] Yeah.
[1:15:59] Yeah, good.
[1:15:59] Good, conservative.
[1:16:00] Yeah.
[1:16:01] Most definitely.
[1:16:01] Okay.
[1:16:02] I'm really trying to save you some money
[1:16:04] with a money one sign.
[1:16:07] I tried, I tried, then I didn't go too far.
[1:16:11] I had a question, and I realized it's only general fun,
[1:16:14] but we have like a 20% turn over year.
[1:16:17] And one of the cost saving benefits was we weren't going
[1:16:20] to replace higher any new hires
[1:16:22] and or replace people who left.
[1:16:24] So I'm, and I can't see that number being very significant
[1:16:27] here. So I'm assuming that people haven't left or I'm looking at just your total operating
[1:16:36] expenses from your original budget and adjusted budget to this one if that was one of our
[1:16:41] major's cost savings was not if you left we didn't we had some maybe $1.1 million and
[1:16:47] it's not quite that then not replacing. Yeah you're still you're only like about I don't
[1:16:54] what the number is, but it's the total number is less than 700,000.
[1:16:58] Right.
[1:16:59] Because there's, you know, thousands of lines and everything.
[1:17:02] Yeah.
[1:17:02] And that's one of them.
[1:17:03] But I was, could we get a report on how much we actually,
[1:17:06] some of those cost-saving things we've actually done besides
[1:17:08] freezing capital budget?
[1:17:11] Yeah.
[1:17:11] Appreciate that.
[1:17:13] Okay.
[1:17:16] So do we have to do one for the other?
[1:17:19] Or can we do that?
[1:17:20] Well, we recommend that a minimum you've got to close the gap,
[1:17:23] Which is the 3.3 million dollars and then the other is totally up to you
[1:17:29] What projects you want to do if you want to do any of them? We can leave all of them on hold
[1:17:33] one two five
[1:17:36] Whatever projects you want to release yeah that kind of another question is we've expended some of these
[1:17:43] funds here in relationship to the coronavirus which which will be reimbursed
[1:17:48] So that's not accounted for here because some of these expenses are
[1:17:52] So whatever that is you'll be making when we receive some of those funds will that help us to sure it goes right into the fund balance
[1:18:01] Yeah, absolutely. And we've had we submitted over $5 million expenses Friday, even if we're at a
[1:18:08] lot of packet expenses, even if we're at 160 days of working capital that's still quite a bit over our
[1:18:15] Yes, it's very still very and still much higher than many other cities have some area
[1:18:21] I'll make a motion to a group option to for author our authorization of budget amendment of 6.193.8
[1:18:29] You want to do the whole thing it was? I'll hold on for a second. I'll hold on for a second, the motion
[1:18:33] No, no, but
[1:18:34] And maybe this just
[1:18:38] So we're putting on hold like a whole bunch of projects that we have which is the landscaping parks and everything
[1:18:44] This is 3.4 million and yet we're not putting on hold or press box for 1.1 million dollars. Thank you
[1:18:50] I'm sorry. I'm just saying because we're putting on hold our projects our city projects and we're going to cut
[1:18:56] 3.4 out of those projects which I'll say that I rather have my parks be inclusive then do a press box at at the high school
[1:19:05] And I appreciate that commissioner, but my criteria was very simple if a project was in process
[1:19:11] it was not going to be frozen. Now you all can make a different decision but
[1:19:16] that was a decision I had to make in March to stop projects and that was the
[1:19:21] criteria that I use. Because if we stop that one we can find a whole bunch of
[1:19:25] these. I'm recommending you fund them all. I mean I'm recommending we fund them all.
[1:19:32] And we'll still be ahead of the game. But we'll still be ahead of the ball game if we go
[1:19:39] that route. No but that's that there's other things going on in that fund and so
[1:19:44] all we need is 2.8 right on to cover these from the one through 20. Yes right
[1:19:50] option two fun zones. That's what you made a motion for. Yes. Okay so everybody
[1:19:57] clear what the option option is to amend the budget to take fun balance to pay for
[1:20:03] of these items, including option two.
[1:20:05] Hi.
[1:20:06] That's it.
[1:20:07] OK.
[1:20:07] It's a big, big number.
[1:20:08] Oh.
[1:20:09] A big number.
[1:20:10] Hopefully the county will read the story about this.
[1:20:14] Right.
[1:20:14] Well, don't talk us out of it.
[1:20:15] OK.
[1:20:16] How do you favor to say hi?
[1:20:18] Hi.
[1:20:19] At the same time, Ocean Carey.
[1:20:20] Oh, that hurts.
[1:20:21] OK, let's go.
[1:20:22] Item 5B, abandonment of 10 feet by 1320 feet
[1:20:26] at lot 16 Rosalindus subdivision.
[1:20:30] We don't need it.
[1:20:31] Huh?
[1:20:32] No, we don't need it.
[1:20:33] No.
[1:20:34] I can motion that.
[1:20:35] I move to approve.
[1:20:36] I can need it.
[1:20:37] And where is it?
[1:20:39] What's the address, though?
[1:20:40] It's one lot.
[1:20:41] And so you have a whole street that's not going to be.
[1:20:43] It's all developed and you got one lot.
[1:20:45] So you make them.
[1:20:46] They'll never be paved again.
[1:20:47] Because you have to do the whole darn street.
[1:20:49] And it's never going to happen.
[1:20:51] Is that my heart?
[1:20:52] Yeah.
[1:20:53] Right.
[1:20:53] Yeah.
[1:20:54] Okay.
[1:20:54] That's the recommendation.
[1:20:55] It's just five or six blocks.
[1:20:59] Five or six blocks.
[1:21:02] I can't do it, no. Second.
[1:21:04] Sir.
[1:21:05] I'm favor say aye.
[1:21:06] Aye.
[1:21:06] Close to each time.
[1:21:07] Motion carried.
[1:21:08] Six A.
[1:21:10] Six A is consideration of a variance to the paving
[1:21:13] drainage and sidewalk requirements for the tree
[1:21:14] apartments of this.
[1:21:16] And what's the address for this one?
[1:21:18] My, my, my life.
[1:21:19] Out north.
[1:21:19] It's north.
[1:21:20] This is on, on Taylor Road, north of Expressway, the
[1:21:25] south of business.
[1:21:26] So the, the tree apartments subdivision, it's a
[1:21:28] commercial subdivision, approximately 1,500 feet
[1:21:31] north of the expressway on Taylor Road.
[1:21:34] Through part of the subdivision process,
[1:21:35] the developers required to build or escrow
[1:21:37] for the paving drainage and sidewalk
[1:21:38] improvements along Taylor Road.
[1:21:41] The cost of these improvements is estimated
[1:21:44] 97,000 in 24 dollars and 50 cents.
[1:21:48] The developer is requesting consideration
[1:21:51] to allow the escrow to funds.
[1:21:54] Instead of prior to the subdivision process,
[1:21:57] he's asking for it to be submitted
[1:21:59] within 30 days after closing and this one before the Public Utility Board for a similar type of request for water and sewer and was approved.
[1:22:09] It also went before City Condition for Parks fees, I believe, and approved as well.
[1:22:14] So staff is recommending approval of that request because similar types of requests have previously been approved.
[1:22:20] With the condition that the payment be made no later than 30 days after closing.
[1:22:23] So moved.
[1:22:25] Which one option?
[1:22:26] No.
[1:22:26] Motion.
[1:22:27] Second.
[1:22:28] And we ultimately have a remedy on building permits and I can use them as part of the bill.
[1:22:32] Okay.
[1:22:33] Any further discussion?
[1:22:34] I just want clarification.
[1:22:36] The motion to just simply approve the variance or approve the variance with the condition that if it's not paid, the building permits will be revoked.
[1:22:42] Yes.
[1:22:43] With the condition.
[1:22:44] Yeah.
[1:22:44] Do it.
[1:22:45] Right.
[1:22:45] We have conditions.
[1:22:47] Okay.
[1:22:47] All in favor say aye.
[1:22:48] Aye.
[1:22:48] We'll see him sign motion carried consideration of a grant request to waive the paving and drainage requirements for a surprise surprise
[1:22:55] Thank you surprise subdivision is a one-law to multi-family residential subdivision that's located at the southwest corner of Dallas and
[1:23:03] Ninth Street and as part of the subdivision process they're required to build or escrow for the paving and drainage improvements
[1:23:10] along nine streams
[1:23:12] In looking at this request, although there is no additional
[1:23:16] right away required, the requirement was five additional feet of pavement.
[1:23:21] Looking at the surrounding area, there is existing carbon gutter along
[1:23:25] ninth street, and it is an existing 30 foot width of pavement.
[1:23:31] The request for the five additional feet is because ultimately that section of
[1:23:34] street should be 40 feet.
[1:23:36] But seeing as there is carbon gutter on both sides of the street already in
[1:23:41] in place, staff recommends approval of the variance request.
[1:23:45] Okay, your motion, any discussion?
[1:23:48] You're not in any motion?
[1:23:49] Excuse me, I have a motion here in this recommendation.
[1:23:52] Second.
[1:23:54] No discussions?
[1:23:55] I was better say aye.
[1:23:56] I opposed same-sign motion, carried.
[1:24:01] Next item of the variance request,
[1:24:03] the way the pavement and pavement requirements are low
[1:24:05] to the cinos.
[1:24:06] This is formed.
[1:24:07] Similar to the other requests, there are paving
[1:24:09] and drainage requirements for this subdivision.
[1:24:12] and there's a little Senceema subdivision,
[1:24:14] a single family residential subdivision of 83 lots.
[1:24:18] It's located at the northeast corner of Benson
[1:24:20] and Newhouse Drive.
[1:24:22] And instead of meeting the requirement
[1:24:26] for building or estruing the paving drainage
[1:24:29] and sidewalk improvements for Newhouse Drive,
[1:24:32] the half associates, the developer's agent,
[1:24:35] is requesting to weigh the requirements
[1:24:39] for Newhouse Drive.
[1:24:40] Currently, New House is a 20-foot wide rural roadway section.
[1:24:44] There is not curbing gutter, there's a roadside swell in that area.
[1:24:51] A couple years ago, in 2017, a new single family residential subdivision of four lots on the south side of New House
[1:24:58] went through the subdivision process and is still going through the subdivision process.
[1:25:02] They were required to widen.
[1:25:04] They have not completed the improvements, however.
[1:25:07] They are still within the process.
[1:25:08] There is an exhibit showing the length of new house that the subdivision is requesting
[1:25:13] to wave the requirements.
[1:25:15] Staff recommends disapproval of this service request.
[1:25:18] Disapproval?
[1:25:19] Disapproval?
[1:25:22] Okay.
[1:25:23] Here's the recommendation to have motion.
[1:25:27] Okay.
[1:25:29] Move the disapproval?
[1:25:30] Disapproval.
[1:25:31] Okay.
[1:25:32] Yeah.
[1:25:32] Yeah.
[1:25:32] Nobody says that.
[1:25:34] That's it.
[1:25:35] Thank you.
[1:25:35] Thank you.
[1:25:37] Sure.
[1:25:37] Come on forward.
[1:25:38] You know, I had a question because Newhouse, where's the exit and that entrance on this subdivision?
[1:25:43] In Benson?
[1:25:44] On Benson and Newhouse.
[1:25:46] And Newhouse?
[1:25:47] Oh.
[1:25:49] Huh?
[1:25:52] You start to see the, you know, the feasibility of finding it right now.
[1:25:56] What is going to look like a swing?
[1:25:59] It's just a lot of something.
[1:26:00] There's going to be a big pose there because there's nothing to the, uh,
[1:26:24] Between there and where road you're talking about you're saying from your south
[1:26:33] east corner to where road there's nothing that's not
[1:26:36] available property.
[1:26:41] All the homes around the north side going east you have to
[1:26:45] vibe that all that the homes to be able to go right in the
[1:26:47] road.
[1:26:48] Well, we disapproved you so that we weren't going to do it.
[1:26:51] We didn't ask for it.
[1:26:52] I mean, we're here.
[1:26:53] We were all in the end and we asked the people.
[1:26:55] No, the motion was disapproval of the variance.
[1:26:58] We didn't vote on it yet.
[1:27:00] The thing is this area, I'm actually very familiar with this area, it's a beautiful piece of land, it has a big potential to have these beautiful subdivisions in there, and I think if you're going to start doing it, do it right.
[1:27:12] I understand that, but you can't develop anything to the south of it, you've got probably a 500 year flood, it goes into the old, the old...
[1:27:20] That's why, where they're doing?
[1:27:22] That's why, where was they're doing?
[1:27:23] No, I know.
[1:27:24] I've also, you know, the engineering, иdisapproves of it.
[1:27:28] Where is the plan that they're going to widen that road?
[1:27:31] I'm going to see it.
[1:27:32] I mean, I didn't mind the contributor,
[1:27:34] if you can tell me that you're going to continue that road.
[1:27:37] Show me a plan.
[1:27:38] So I'll tell you, if you're planning on finally developing the area,
[1:27:42] I want to hold in there too.
[1:27:44] But I'm going to show you that you can't build up the property on this outside.
[1:27:47] So I think probably, I don't know how to present you
[1:27:49] to probably take it back here,
[1:27:51] you can probably 500, you can put anything to this house.
[1:27:54] And then I think you're talking about,
[1:27:55] if you ever drive down the road,
[1:27:57] you're committed to almost having nice homes
[1:27:58] to ride up on that 24,
[1:28:01] because those homes were built probably outside of the city
[1:28:03] at that time.
[1:28:04] And they were made homes.
[1:28:05] Yeah, they're beautiful.
[1:28:06] How about we table it?
[1:28:08] And then we have a discussion about it,
[1:28:10] because those lots, they're beautiful.
[1:28:14] They're beautiful.
[1:28:14] And I think that it's very beautiful.
[1:28:18] I was looking to buy a property in there, so I could go to my house, but I moved to table, so we can have a discussion.
[1:28:30] We have a motion to table. Can I ask a question before?
[1:28:33] Yeah, emotional disapproval, looking to do emotional tabloids.
[1:28:38] We have a call.
[1:28:40] I'll tell you.
[1:28:41] Why wouldn't you.
[1:28:42] That area?
[1:28:44] I'm very familiar.
[1:28:45] I want to cook.
[1:28:47] Let's try to make it work.
[1:28:48] Newhouse tribe is a real bad intersection with where I wrote.
[1:28:53] And there is only a couple houses that use that road, right?
[1:28:57] Why wouldn't you, like, dead end Newhouse
[1:29:00] drive at the southwest corner of that subdivision so you wouldn't have that
[1:29:04] problem and everybody have to use Benson Road then for access.
[1:29:10] I'm just saying
[1:29:10] that they would to me that would solve the traffic problem of dumping all that
[1:29:14] traffic.
[1:29:19] That's what I'm saying. For Benson is your
[1:29:21] ingress and egress and it stops the problem of wear road and new house drive
[1:29:26] traffic with all that traffic speed and going in there and then the people that
[1:29:31] I live there still have access to four or five houses still have access.
[1:29:34] True way, because I put that way.
[1:29:36] That way, and there's a lot of people.
[1:29:40] Yeah, you know, okay, but you got to motion a table.
[1:29:43] Why do you want a table getting to get more information?
[1:29:45] To get more information and see if we could try to work it out because those,
[1:29:50] they have a really nice potential to have some very nice subdivisions there in this report.
[1:29:55] Yeah, but that's what I was saying.
[1:29:57] and you do bench and roadies, you're ingressin' egressin'.
[1:29:59] Yes.
[1:30:03] I know.
[1:30:07] We have to undo this motion. No. We have a motion to disapproved. You want to look into it? There's a potential of working something out. I'll withdraw my motion. Okay. The motion is table. You got a second? Okay. I'll infer say. Hi. Hi. Okay. It's table. So.
[1:30:33] I think you know the question for us was a all or nothing and so maybe staff come up with something else
[1:30:58] But if we could we could solve the new house drive on to where road project it would be okay
[1:31:06] So let's take
[1:31:10] The next item is a presentation of the link when tax collection report
[1:31:21] Good evening, American missioners Kelly saw us on behalf of line barter Goggin Blair and Samson to present
[1:31:26] A delinquent tax collection report for February 1 through May 31, 2020.
[1:31:32] Our delinquent tax collection program for the City of McAllen continues to focus on two basic premises.
[1:31:37] The first is to work with the individual tax payer first, and secondly, use the tools litigation only as the final option to collect.
[1:31:46] During this reporting period, we completed three demand mailings, mailing over 8,800 statements on average $1.9 million.
[1:31:56] dollars in base tax and P and I during this period. We've had over 205 individuals walk
[1:32:03] in to any one of our four locations in Hidalgo County to which are very convenient to the
[1:32:09] city of McAllen residents one on McCall and one on North Kent Street. We had over 3,199
[1:32:16] phone calls and we conducted over 287 property inspections, although we put those on hold
[1:32:23] during this period, but we're able to complete 287 prior to COVID.
[1:32:28] Regarding our litigation, we have filed 69 interventions or lawsuits,
[1:32:33] disposed of 66, and pending litigation as of June 2020.
[1:32:38] We have 388 lawsuits pending, representing over $1.1 million in base penalty interest owed to the city.
[1:32:46] We regularly conduct tax sales and
[1:32:49] sales on judgments with little to no effort to pay.
[1:32:52] Of course, we put those on hold during this period.
[1:32:58] We conducted a tax sale in February, placing one property for sale, and I'm sorry, one sale was completed in February.
[1:33:11] We placed two properties for sale in the City of McCown, resulting in over 4,300 in Deliquant Taxes,
[1:33:18] collected as a courtesy, we collect the City of McCown's mowing leans, and due to those properties, we were able to collect $2,275 in mowing leans.
[1:33:28] And now going to the collection highlights for February through May.
[1:33:32] You'll notice that during this reporting period, we collected $368,308 in face taxes, over $131,000 in penalty and interest.
[1:33:42] this for total collections of $499,000 over $499,000, which is a decline compared to last year.
[1:33:53] We started seeing a decline in our collection responses, beginning spring break, mid March.
[1:34:03] And since then, we've been working towards getting those improved using all of the collection
[1:34:08] as best as we can during this period.
[1:34:12] We thought it was important to let you know what the year-to-date collections are for the City of McCallan.
[1:34:17] You'll note that our total collections based penalty and interest are over $1.2 million a year-to-date,
[1:34:23] which is on track compared to last year, despite the pandemic, very happy with that.
[1:34:29] Looking forward to the future, we will continue to monitor accounts,
[1:34:33] Filing accounts on delinquent amounts owed on accounts owing two or more years, we will continue with our mailing program.
[1:34:42] We actually have a compassionate mailing that we do taking full account of the difficult times facing delinquent taxpayers in this area.
[1:34:53] Do our best to educate them and encourage them to make payment arrangements as best they can for the city.
[1:35:00] That concludes my link with tax collection report, we have to answer any questions that you
[1:35:04] might have.
[1:35:05] Any questions?
[1:35:07] No, she answered the right one.
[1:35:08] I ask.
[1:35:09] On the litigation, what's the difficult time, Brenda?
[1:35:11] One of them wants to get to the litigation that he doesn't resolve.
[1:35:15] That's a very good question, and there's no hard and fast rule.
[1:35:19] There's a lot of factors that play into how fast or how Celia case takes to resolution
[1:35:24] factors such as the number of parties that need to be given, notice, and served with a
[1:35:28] lawsuit, the difficulty in obtaining service. Some parties need to be served via what's called a
[1:35:34] site by posting, which requires a longer period of time. But to answer your question kind of
[1:35:41] a more simpler way, six to nine months on the more easier accounts to get service, including all
[1:35:49] parties and title, and could be a couple years or more on those more difficult accounts.
[1:35:55] And in case, is one case more property?
[1:35:59] No, if a delinquent taxpayer owns multiple accounts, we'll include all of those accounts
[1:36:05] as best we can into the lawsuit to save the taxpayer money and to expedite the price
[1:36:09] as well.
[1:36:12] And I'm sure you all have a plan in place already because of COVID-19 and because you're
[1:36:15] getting less and less response, you're going to give them more time.
[1:36:19] I mean, you have an option plan in place.
[1:36:23] Yes, Commissioner.
[1:36:23] We also utilize a code specific to our office to note individuals who have asserted difficulty due to the pandemic so we can be a little bit more sensitive to those situations as well.
[1:36:36] I know on some small accounts it becomes difficult to get through all of them, I guess you could say.
[1:36:46] Okay. What methods are used to remind and or encourage the property owner to pay up?
[1:36:58] Let's say they're four or five years past two.
[1:37:00] Did you say the smaller accounts?
[1:37:02] Yes, smaller residential accounts.
[1:37:04] Sure. We'll utilize telephone calls, letters, sometimes we'll leave a knock on those taxpayers' door
[1:37:12] or if they are clustered in an area where we have higher delinquency accounts and it
[1:37:19] just makes sense if there's someone that knows a little smaller map but you're in the
[1:37:23] neighborhood to go pay them a visit as well.
[1:37:26] But you keep track, keep records of all that you're doing especially with, I mean in every
[1:37:33] account, right?
[1:37:34] Yes, we do.
[1:37:34] Okay, and you have that available to the city?
[1:37:36] Yes.
[1:37:40] Any other questions?
[1:37:41] Okay.
[1:37:42] Thank you.
[1:37:43] Thank you.
[1:37:43] We have a great evening.
[1:37:44] Thank you.
[1:37:44] Thank you.
[1:37:45] Back of your up next.
[1:37:49] Right now, can you imagine?
[1:37:52] You weren't getting it anyway for me.
[1:37:54] Good evening, Mr. Mayor of City Commission.
[1:37:56] Before you have the year-to-day collection report from October the 9th, October 2019 through May 31, 2020.
[1:38:03] This year's beginning balance was 49 million nine sixteen three seventy five eighty eight.
[1:38:08] The year-to-day base collected was 47 million six forty eight seven thirty five fifty four.
[1:38:14] leaving a receivable balance of $2,253.466.66.
[1:38:20] That brings our year-to-day collection rate to 95.29%.
[1:38:24] And if you look at last year's report to the right,
[1:38:28] you can see that last year's collection rate
[1:38:30] for the same time period was 95.16.
[1:38:33] So actually, we have a slight increase from last year.
[1:38:38] Towards the middle of the report, you're going to see a breakdown
[1:38:40] by property type.
[1:38:41] You have a real estate we have collected 44 million 171 810 oh nine that brings our year-to-date rate of 95.40 percent
[1:38:50] For personal property we collected 5 million 610 690 to 80 which is 94.76 percent in mobile homes
[1:38:59] 106.671 11 which is 80.76 percent and in minerals 27,000 to a 188 which is 98.50 percent
[1:39:09] So again, our year two day collection rate is at 95.29.
[1:39:15] At the bottom of the report, you'll see additional collection fees, which Kelly has gone
[1:39:19] over the prior year collections.
[1:39:22] In the condition penalties, we have collected 47,5305.
[1:39:27] I'll skip the penalty and interest in attorney fees.
[1:39:29] We have tax certificates in $580.
[1:39:32] Return checks for $275.
[1:39:35] dollars, rollback collections $59,719.82, and we're also collecting for the public improvement
[1:39:42] district for Therese Lagos, and that is $127,248.10.
[1:39:47] If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer.
[1:39:50] So we won't really know this next tax year till usually after December or January before
[1:39:58] the delinquency date.
[1:39:59] So we've done well for this tax year, even with the co-virus, because most people pay
[1:40:04] maybe four or five years so, right?
[1:40:06] That is correct.
[1:40:06] We won't really know the virus effect until later on
[1:40:11] in the after the first quarter of the fiscal year,
[1:40:14] really, in the next fiscal year.
[1:40:16] We, I did see a small decrease in the collections
[1:40:19] for the month of April, but then may really picked up.
[1:40:26] And right now, it was almost,
[1:40:29] when the third week of June,
[1:40:30] and I have seen a slight decrease compared to last year.
[1:40:32] So we hit our budget plus this year I mean as far as the collections. Yes, we've done really really good
[1:40:40] Okay
[1:40:42] Any other questions? Okay, thank you. Thank you
[1:40:47] Investment report or the investment report
[1:40:57] Thank you, Mayor
[1:41:00] The item before you is the quarterly investment port for the month and the March 30th or for the quarter and the March 31st 2020
[1:41:07] the report is prepared in compliance with the City's investment policy and with the Public
[1:41:13] Funds Investment Act. The report was presented to the Investment Committee on May 20th and was approved.
[1:41:20] Page 1 presents a summary of the quarter's performance to the right side of the page.
[1:41:25] You'll see March 31st, 2020 quarter on that table. If you look at the book value, that's what's reflected in our general ledger.
[1:41:33] for the quarter ending March 31st, we had 4.2 million in our bank account.
[1:41:40] We had another roughly 101.1 million in text pool and we had roughly 185 million sitting
[1:41:49] in securities and CDs.
[1:41:51] The average yield for the portfolio for that quarter was 1.78 percent.
[1:41:57] Could you give us a more recent update, not necessarily total, but where we are in relationship
[1:42:03] the interest rates in budget?
[1:42:06] As far as interest in budget, I think we're on track to meeting the budget the last time
[1:42:12] I looked.
[1:42:13] I don't have the current rate because we do have a mix of investments and so the Treasury
[1:42:19] Department, our Treasury Management does a real good job of mixing in CDs and other types
[1:42:24] of investments.
[1:42:25] So we have a rolling balance so right around that 1.7, 1.6% were able to maintain that rate
[1:42:31] based on the CDs that were going out for more than a year.
[1:42:35] So we'll hit our budget districts next fiscal year that we would have to have the impact because we use the under budget on interest rates.
[1:42:42] And so we made up the falling interest rates with the over with the under budget.
[1:42:48] Yeah, we do have some long term investments that kind of protect us from that.
[1:42:53] And we have seen some drop in our text pool or prime account.
[1:42:56] It hasn't been as significant as we originally thought, but it is decreasing.
[1:43:00] but then we'll jump on some CDs.
[1:43:03] Okay, thank you. Any other questions?
[1:43:05] Tell us at the drop in the interest income.
[1:43:08] What's the ability to refinance on the death now?
[1:43:12] That does make sure he's coming up and start looking at that.
[1:43:16] We do that constantly, Commissioner.
[1:43:19] In fact, we had a discussion with our financial advisor last month.
[1:43:25] The hard part right now was that it was so volatile.
[1:43:28] and it was it was hard to predict what we could do but we'll keep looking
[1:43:33] and we have some securities of the five or six percent of it and the question I
[1:43:38] don't think we've got any that high but we'll check it out. Is the because the
[1:43:44] viruses are rating is it they're rating go down at all? No not yet anyway yeah
[1:43:50] man there's a little bit of uncertainty in the market because of the
[1:43:58] Okay. Any other questions? Thank you very much.
[1:44:02] Okay.
[1:44:06] Investment.
[1:44:09] Lift fund.
[1:44:10] Well, the lift fund, we already know.
[1:44:13] Yeah, isn't it? We're not doing.
[1:44:16] Are they on hold?
[1:44:17] Yes.
[1:44:17] Yes.
[1:44:18] The investment for actually needs to be accepted and approved.
[1:44:21] We need to approve the investment in a second.
[1:44:24] I was a per se aye.
[1:44:25] Aye.
[1:44:26] I'm sorry.
[1:44:27] We accepted.
[1:44:28] We don't approve the investment.
[1:44:31] Can
[1:44:33] we all know?
[1:44:35] Yeah.
[1:44:35] Is that what you accepted?
[1:44:38] Uh, lift fund ready.
[1:44:40] Yeah, whatever you lift fund.
[1:44:41] Where is the button?
[1:44:42] Not the
[1:44:48] new lift fund.
[1:44:48] We know what happened to that, right?
[1:44:50] No, it's not.
[1:44:51] Right?
[1:44:51] We're there tonight.
[1:44:53] Okay.
[1:44:53] Okay.
[1:44:53] Okay.
[1:44:53] That we weren't closing any loans because they didn't take it right the report
[1:45:05] So, as you know, lift from the staff a little bit on the CD criteria that would have to impose an order to use $700,000 to be identified for these months. So, as said, we're not able to use it in that way, as they're not able or willing to meet that criteria. Right. So, we've that has some additional categories of ideas.
[1:45:29] Okay, also mentioned that it's my understanding that the CDBG requirements were going to make it pretty strict for our power.
[1:45:43] Okay, so it's not, it wasn't mostly lip fund that they weren't able to facilitate our request.
[1:45:52] Yes, it was more that once they looked at HUD requirements and the way that it's outlined,
[1:46:01] yeah, it's not going to be as a disaster type of loan anymore.
[1:46:04] It's going to be a traditional kind of SBA type of loan where you've got collateral that's going to require.
[1:46:09] So once they saw the requirements of HUD, then they said, you know what?
[1:46:14] It's not going to meet your needs anymore.
[1:46:15] It's what I heard.
[1:46:16] The primary criteria was that they were going to have to account for at least one job for a period of three years.
[1:46:24] Right. For low, that's part of it.
[1:46:27] That was it, primarily.
[1:46:30] For one job, because it was up to $35,000, it would have to retain one low income job for up to a period of three years.
[1:46:38] For a return to one job?
[1:46:40] Retain one job.
[1:46:41] So then why would Liffa not want to continue with the program then?
[1:46:46] Well, because if they get a, they can't, that one person can't get a raid or a promotion
[1:46:51] nothing, right?
[1:46:52] No, they just, they can't be fired, or they can't be like, oh, long long long.
[1:46:56] You have to stay in for three years, or whatever, but it is actually, it is actually a full-time
[1:47:00] equivalent position.
[1:47:01] Even if that person moves on and is no longer low income, someone else can maintain the position.
[1:47:06] They just have to maintain the position.
[1:47:09] They can't maintain one full-time employee for the duration of the period.
[1:47:16] is that that difficult.
[1:47:22] This is for the loan, right? Yes. Yes. Yeah, because I call for
[1:47:26] some. So what are the options? About the grant. Are we having problems with the grant?
[1:47:29] Or just a loan? The grant? It does hurt. Yeah, that's okay. I think they're going to start
[1:47:35] with their part of casume with the grants approved and allocated. The grant's working well.
[1:47:39] Oh yeah, it's just a loan.
[1:47:40] That's the chamber.
[1:47:42] The code with that name for CDG is what we have
[1:47:45] to send with us dollars of the liquid funds.
[1:47:48] There are some other options for the team.
[1:47:50] All due is in.
[1:47:51] We asked horrible homes to take a look at it
[1:47:55] and they're supposed to report back to us, OK?
[1:47:57] And who else?
[1:47:58] I don't know who else it doesn't.
[1:48:00] What other options do we have?
[1:48:02] So for other options, there are a myriad of CDG,
[1:48:05] regular CDG programs that are eligible.
[1:48:07] So summer public services, summer construction, within your packet, there was a quick guide to what HUD put out is
[1:48:14] eligible for CDVG COVID money. So there's some testing information here. We did under the COVID money put a hundred thousand dollars to go to UTRGV for some testing.
[1:48:25] There are
[1:48:26] regularization activities if we need to quarantine individuals.
[1:48:30] That can be considered
[1:48:32] We, like I said, a lot of public activities, anything that we can do.
[1:48:36] The economic development activity that we've proposed, can still be looked at under another
[1:48:42] organization if that is the will of the commission.
[1:48:46] But there's no actual grant allowance anymore, like the Chambers Grants, no.
[1:48:52] Not under the CDBG program, it was intended to be set up as a loan.
[1:48:56] And we still were looking at small businesses and microenterprises, as was discussed earlier.
[1:49:00] I have at home, home residential.
[1:49:03] What do we do this just for the franchises?
[1:49:05] Like the ones that don't qualify?
[1:49:06] Also, I'm asking, they don't qualify for the grant.
[1:49:09] So we can add them here.
[1:49:11] And I think they would be able to qualify a little,
[1:49:14] because they usually have like the 725 employees.
[1:49:18] So they could qualify in this
[1:49:19] and then just leave everybody else inside the grant.
[1:49:21] How about the, you're going to add the,
[1:49:23] whoa, the franchise, not the residential?
[1:49:25] Why don't, why don't we do it,
[1:49:27] if, if, if, Florida homes gets back to us,
[1:49:29] which they should read in the next day or two.
[1:49:31] And they can't do it.
[1:49:32] Let's do an alternative so they don't have to wait
[1:49:34] another meeting.
[1:49:35] But if she's going to go to franchise,
[1:49:36] why can't we add the residential home?
[1:49:38] Well, they're not going to meet it.
[1:49:39] I mean, if your regular small business didn't
[1:49:41] didn't meet the criteria for them,
[1:49:43] then the small Joe in the home working at home,
[1:49:46] they're not going to meet it either.
[1:49:47] So if anything, the ones that would qualify for this
[1:49:49] will probably be the franchises,
[1:49:51] like the bigger businesses.
[1:49:52] But who's going to administer all that, yeah?
[1:49:55] Well, we need to.
[1:49:56] Jevette.
[1:49:57] Jevette?
[1:49:59] Jevette?
[1:50:00] What's your vote?
[1:50:01] Jevette?
[1:50:02] I think the ones here are no.
[1:50:02] If they be sure to give you about $700,000,
[1:50:05] so if we do continue with
[1:50:06] the premises that were established in your list,
[1:50:08] which is about $25,000 per enterprise,
[1:50:10] we're still looking at assisting
[1:50:11] about 20, 5 to 28 businesses is what,
[1:50:15] is how far the funds would be extended.
[1:50:18] And that would amount to-
[1:50:19] And with that, could he be a person?
[1:50:21] Or different type of projects
[1:50:23] that doesn't until that time.
[1:50:24] I think we should wait for four months.
[1:50:26] Yeah, if you could pull from someone they can service it because you're talking about monthly notices.
[1:50:31] They have industry having 82 service units.
[1:50:33] Past students.
[1:50:35] Affordable homes, just.
[1:50:36] Yeah, I didn't know that they even.
[1:50:38] Yeah, it's a great, great idea.
[1:50:40] Having four months.
[1:50:42] Yeah.
[1:50:43] But they can still have anybody.
[1:50:45] Not just some homes.
[1:50:47] Well, we're going to hear back if they can do it.
[1:50:48] But I think it'd be a good idea if they did.
[1:50:52] I guess affordable homes is an option that sounds like it's coming in and something that
[1:50:56] we hope will fit, but can you email us detail on other options?
[1:51:01] Sure.
[1:51:02] Yeah.
[1:51:02] And so we can read the book of the detail of different programs than just community programs.
[1:51:08] I don't know what that is.
[1:51:09] And be ready to do it if they can't, or we can just push them.
[1:51:15] We will have to have a citizen participation plan process because we will be amending the
[1:51:20] action plan as we had submitted to HUD earlier with the intention that funds would be to
[1:51:24] lift funds. So as soon as we have that we do need to go through a minimum of five-day
[1:51:27] common period before it comes back before you for actual. Even though it's the same program
[1:51:32] with different entity carrying it out? Unfortunately, yeah. Oh yeah, I forgot. We're doing
[1:51:35] the federal government.
[1:51:38] Okay.
[1:51:42] Any other questions? There is a possibility for us to look at
[1:51:53] Yeah, and we're hoping that we can get that fully reimbursed, so yeah, okay, okay, thank
[1:52:03] you very much, and then I'll see what's next,
[1:52:10] Zen City report, Zen City report, was that
[1:52:14] That's some kind of city.
[1:52:17] Is that a city?
[1:52:18] That way you can.
[1:52:19] That's it.
[1:52:20] It's like some month ago.
[1:52:21] Acupuncture thing, city.
[1:52:23] Why are you running a cobalt, or what is it?
[1:52:25] I'm scared if I got it.
[1:52:27] Oh no, we already had the census.
[1:52:28] Yeah.
[1:52:31] Oh my gosh, are you seven?
[1:52:33] This is the company that you all, and a few of you
[1:52:36] met them at CML and you found some use in the products.
[1:52:41] And so we've been using a staff house
[1:52:43] for the last few months. And I guess somebody's assistance over here please. I thought we didn't improve it.
[1:52:50] One we've proved it.
[1:52:54] It was a long time ago.
[1:52:55] It was tight.
[1:52:56] Maybe you remember that.
[1:53:00] The short term.
[1:53:00] The short term here.
[1:53:01] Don't worry about it.
[1:53:02] Get in there.
[1:53:03] All your private information.
[1:53:05] Look at the top.
[1:53:06] They're going to hold us there, all the time they're going to be there.
[1:53:11] Oh, yeah, sure.
[1:53:12] And here is a privacy statement.
[1:53:15] That nobody's read in her history.
[1:53:17] What information would he do?
[1:53:19] Like, no, this is better.
[1:53:21] Yeah, OK.
[1:53:23] Mayor was probably not feeling well about that, too.
[1:53:25] I don't want to do that.
[1:53:29] Oh, well, he looks great.
[1:53:30] You're just a couple of little testers.
[1:53:34] The resident engagement is extremely important to government without knowing what people
[1:53:38] want, thinking and worried about, talking about discussing what their fingers or their
[1:53:43] miles are.
[1:53:44] It's very important to know what's going on, you know, the Zen City has been at God's
[1:53:49] Center for giving that information to us quickly.
[1:53:52] It was a little bit of an error to sign up for the project a year ago, and it's working
[1:53:57] very well.
[1:53:57] You guys are listening to him, because a lot of us stay tuned in to what people are talking about.
[1:54:02] We can react if we need to, not just with the concern about it.
[1:54:05] When we flow, who reports out about activities, we definitely watch scenes with this catching
[1:54:12] on the electronic agent, and that's important to us, because then it actually makes staff
[1:54:17] happy to let people are going to come, and that's really important.
[1:54:21] Or if there's traffic problems, we'll put an announcement out, engage public reaction, and
[1:54:25] It's such an easy tool.
[1:54:26] I first took office in 2009.
[1:54:28] We talked to 5,000 people with like 30 volunteers.
[1:54:32] It took nine months.
[1:54:34] We repeated that again with that many volunteers.
[1:54:36] Because I really believe you want to know
[1:54:38] what people are thinking about.
[1:54:39] Therefore, you make decisions, you map out your plans,
[1:54:42] you know your answer to what people want.
[1:54:44] It's not hard, but it's a lot of work.
[1:54:46] It's easy, it's your thing, that's a lot easier.
[1:54:49] And that's why they elected you, buddy.
[1:54:51] Make decisions.
[1:54:54] So basically we have another tool that we use here at the city that we use at the city
[1:55:02] it's called the citizen survey.
[1:55:03] We put that out every three years at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars and it
[1:55:07] takes about a year before we put it in.
[1:55:08] Good afternoon everybody.
[1:55:11] Good afternoon everybody.
[1:55:12] And so this is something that we're using that is much quicker and much more real time.
[1:55:18] So this is, instead of using meetings and phone calls and surveys, we're getting this daily.
[1:55:26] They are mapping out in an average month between 100 and 200,000 interactions that they're monitoring on the web.
[1:55:34] Then it's all public information.
[1:55:36] So it comes from things like Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube and all those things that are already public out there.
[1:55:44] And there's people out there who are talking, they don't necessarily talk to us, but they're
[1:55:48] still out there talking in public websites, and so this gives us an opportunity to see
[1:55:52] what's being said.
[1:55:53] So this is their privacy, and I'll leave it to you to go ahead and read that, but they only
[1:55:58] use public data, they remove all personally identifying information, they don't share
[1:56:02] between cities or even with residents, they only share with the people like us that ask for
[1:56:07] their services.
[1:56:11] This is one of the tools they offer. We get three types of reports, we get projects, we
[1:56:16] get insights and we get monthly reports. So these are some of the projects and we can
[1:56:20] ask for any project that we want. These are six of the ones that we've asked to create
[1:56:25] protests, census, coronavirus, bridges, drainage, traffic. We also have entertainment and
[1:56:31] Michael and Marathon, state of the city
[1:56:33] Michellum Public Works, Street construction,
[1:56:35] Future visions, and libraries.
[1:56:37] I think the procurement corcode...
[1:56:37] We get all of the comments
[1:56:39] out there that are related to these things
[1:56:41] that we see in the resources that they're migrating.
[1:56:45] And we get these, they're available daily.
[1:56:49] Then we have the insides,
[1:56:51] which are basically one of them that we use
[1:56:55] during the Coronavirus, the mayor had mentioned,
[1:56:58] it was early on when we first started
[1:57:00] with the face coverings, the mayor had given a recommendation to wear face coverings
[1:57:05] and it was getting a lot of mixed feedback.
[1:57:08] I could have told you there as we could have said.
[1:57:11] Well, as a result of that, Kevin Allen went ahead and gave her the science to back it up.
[1:57:15] No, I know.
[1:57:16] Kevin also told me the emergency management staff to go ahead and put out a clarification
[1:57:21] that it wasn't that it was in the Judges County order and that this was being recommended
[1:57:25] by our mayor.
[1:57:26] So we were able to help see what the public sentiment was and what we wanted it to be and we were able to respond to that real-time.
[1:57:33] There's been other things that have we understand current
[1:57:37] ongoing feedback on recurring
[1:57:40] Issues that we have like flooding and drainage. We found the last time that it flooded. We weren't seeing as much talk about it
[1:57:46] Because I think people are understanding that there's projects out there. They're seeing them. We're able to push that out there more
[1:57:51] And then there's also the benefit of being able to benchmark ourselves with other cities
[1:57:55] in Texas on how they are.
[1:57:58] And this is when we started reopening, we were able to see that our residents were more
[1:58:03] positive about the reopening than other parts of the state.
[1:58:06] And it also gives us immediate feedback to act quickly on some of them.
[1:58:10] So what we saw in the January reports, the top three issues were cultural affairs, public
[1:58:17] safety and education, over 100,000 reports.
[1:58:20] Then in February, public safety was number one, followed by political affairs and education.
[1:58:25] In March, education, public health, and public safety, and then in April, public health
[1:58:30] was all over.
[1:58:31] So you can see, you know, and obviously, like you said, we know some of these things, but
[1:58:35] you can see the specifics, the specific comments, and the sentiment of some of these things
[1:58:39] that are going on, whoops, runway, and then the monthly reports.
[1:58:45] And so those were kind of what I was just talking about now.
[1:58:47] We can see one of the things that we did see was in April.
[1:58:51] The top one over here was public health,
[1:58:55] and there was 43,000 plus hits on that.
[1:58:59] Well, in May, when things started reopening,
[1:59:02] you see it quickly dropping down to number four,
[1:59:04] and there's only about 12,000.
[1:59:06] So then, you know, now I've been on the June's report
[1:59:09] that's going to be spiked back up there.
[1:59:13] This is to show you kind of the public negative positive.
[1:59:17] the grade is kind of neutral and that tells us kind of where we are with the
[1:59:22] night and the night and the night and the night and the night and the night and the night.
[1:59:24] So we've used this a lot during COVID and it's something that we can add as many
[1:59:28] users as we want to for free. I have probably 15 or 20 of the directors on there that
[1:59:35] are getting reports for instance about the library about drainage about traffic and so forth.
[1:59:39] Of course, the commission could also, you know, you could start a project with your name on there and just see, you know,
[1:59:44] with the public sentiment is about you, for instance, maybe we don't.
[1:59:51] I've put them a few negatives today didn't I?
[2:00:00] I have you all out there and you do get pretty good. Who gets the best?
[2:00:13] In summary, we as the staff have found it useful, engaging public opinion and being able to adjust on the fly. We haven't seen the concern for public privacy that has been expressed and we would like to continue to be able to utilize this tool. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to address.
[2:00:30] Well, that was pretty general.
[2:00:32] I'd like to see no more specific what you're doing and why what decisions you've made based
[2:00:37] on this information.
[2:00:38] Yeah, I remember when we first approved it, I thought it's weird to get a six month report
[2:00:43] right?
[2:00:43] It would be this huge competition.
[2:00:44] Yeah, it was in the middle of COVID when the six months have.
[2:00:48] And so I assume from then city you're looking to get some kind of contract proposal that
[2:00:54] would then come.
[2:00:55] Yes, approval.
[2:00:56] Yes, but we don't want to, you know, they would basically extend the proposal that we had, but we wanted to make sure that it was something that you all wanted to do.
[2:01:03] And you said there was another company that you all used to use when you just stopped using that.
[2:01:07] How much does this cost?
[2:01:08] No, some of them.
[2:01:09] You said there were surveys that cost a lot of the time.
[2:01:12] Yeah, and we still do that.
[2:01:13] We do the citizen survey every year and that's that tool where we go out and we have a phone bank and they call and they send mailouts.
[2:01:21] And then they give, you know, that's what we based our bond issue on this last time, because
[2:01:26] we saw the need for drainage traffic improvements.
[2:01:29] But that one was based on maybe seven to 900 surveys, or 900 responses, right?
[2:01:36] This is about 200,000.
[2:01:37] Of course, not all of them are not even cured.
[2:01:40] Well, you get online.
[2:01:42] But there's a lot of rhythm that's going to take out the...
[2:01:44] Yes.
[2:01:44] Yes, they use a logarithm that anonymizes the data and compiles it into something that's
[2:01:51] usable.
[2:01:51] He uses artificial intelligence.
[2:01:54] So that's who's going to control you guys.
[2:01:56] I'm glad I'm getting old.
[2:01:57] That's all I'm going to do.
[2:01:59] What do we pay a year, Michelle?
[2:02:02] This is $12,000.
[2:02:03] $12,000 for the six months.
[2:02:06] I thought it was a good deal.
[2:02:07] We have a short summary for some future workshops to see how many two or three departments
[2:02:13] Once all the data was used, how it was implemented, how it was tested, or at least identified an issue, and they acted on it to correct it.
[2:02:21] Certainly.
[2:02:22] I think we could see the greater utility.
[2:02:25] Yeah, I know it's how they helped me use it other than just the data.
[2:02:29] Yeah, right.
[2:02:30] See, because I would like to see like the response of people with like the dumpsters that we've been putting around.
[2:02:34] Right.
[2:02:35] See, they like it, or they think we need more.
[2:02:38] Right.
[2:02:45] There's a whole bunch of people that I think we should try to get the feedback from that and see if they want more.
[2:02:51] Thamster's also with more frequency.
[2:02:53] We'll set up a project on that specifically and if there's any other issues.
[2:02:56] A lot of it depends on how it gets out.
[2:02:58] If you have some of the bone to pick and they put it out, you get certain responses from that.
[2:03:02] I mean, it's just not as, I know it's very scientific.
[2:03:04] but it's a relatively small population and whatever, but anyways.
[2:03:11] Can we put one in the final?
[2:03:13] Who's their favorite commissioner?
[2:03:14] Oh.
[2:03:14] Oh.
[2:03:15] Any idea?
[2:03:17] How long did you all have that?
[2:03:18] You know what?
[2:03:19] We should probably do it just so you can make money.
[2:03:21] I guess so.
[2:03:22] Thank you.
[2:03:22] I think we should make money.
[2:03:24] Because it's probably not what you think.
[2:03:27] It's gorgeous.
[2:03:29] Okay.
[2:03:29] Or fail.
[2:03:30] No.
[2:03:31] Oh.
[2:03:39] Okay, so for some real data, let's do this for you on one report because those are
[2:03:43] Yeah, we've been sitting here since 3.30, so I was a little, I spoke too much about it.
[2:03:55] One thing in the three-month report, it's kind of data because it's March, so it's pre-COVID
[2:03:59] virus report, so if you could give us more of an update of what's happened since the virus
[2:04:06] things have gone into place, I think it'd be more accurate.
[2:04:08] So the report you've seen in front of you is actually for last fiscal year and then the
[2:04:12] the first and second quarter.
[2:04:14] And like the mayor said, this was mostly
[2:04:16] created COVID towards the end of that second quarter.
[2:04:20] That's when we had that first case that was confirmed here
[2:04:25] in the battle county.
[2:04:26] That's actually when we went to a 7-day week work period.
[2:04:32] We extended the hour, 8-6.
[2:04:34] And then we were open 8-6, 7 days of a week for the whole month.
[2:04:40] In that, we actually saw a less average amount of calls.
[2:04:47] The number was still high for the month, it was still about 8,000.
[2:04:52] For the month of April, it was still 8,800 calls, but because of that 70 a week, it averaged
[2:05:00] down.
[2:05:02] The next couple of months, which is what you're going to be seeing in the upcoming report for
[2:05:07] the next quarter, you'll see 8,880 calls for May and then 7,320 so far in June, so that's
[2:05:20] still pending a couple of days or this week of June.
[2:05:25] For this period or for this quarter, with the COVID we did see a spike every time that
[2:05:34] there was a, uh, a new water people were calling in wanting
[2:05:38] information, wanting to get more information regarding what
[2:05:41] the order set, uh, to being compliance or what they could
[2:05:44] have couldn't do. Uh, I think the highest number of calls was
[2:05:48] after that first initial order, that was a 700 calls that's just
[2:05:53] in one day. I would think the conclusion from that is the orders
[2:05:57] were pretty confusing to people. That and they, they did want
[2:06:04] more information. They had an 18-page order, so they just wanted to be straight forward.
[2:06:11] What is it? What can I do and what can I do?
[2:06:15] In this report, these work created with
[2:06:20] the question in mind of what do you want to see, right? So we put the top 10 work order
[2:06:27] types, we put the top three contributors. So these are reports coming in from the app
[2:06:33] only. So the users that are submitting the reports, the weekly requests, and then just
[2:06:39] a brief news of what happened in that quarter. And just to highlight the, this quarter,
[2:06:47] we've actually seen a very high increase of the app usage, where we were averaging about
[2:06:54] a thousand per quarter and just so far we're about a 1600 request just from the app which is very
[2:07:03] good news because of coming we're still finalizing but we are the testing phase for the map which is
[2:07:09] going to be just tremendous for the citizens because this meeting for example you'll be able to watch
[2:07:15] it on the app. So, they will be able to access that live, live them. Great.
[2:07:24] Good morning. Mayor, can I say something?
[2:07:27] As you know, I was, as the EMC, I moved physically to the EOC in the middle of March, which
[2:07:34] is where 3-1-1 is located. And first of all, I want to say I can't say enough good things
[2:07:39] about Mark Owen and staff and what they did during the height of the pandemic. But having
[2:07:45] the 3-1-1 system co-located with the ELC both physically and operationally was, I just can't tell you how much smoother it may, you know, nothing is smoother than times of crisis, but I've worked several hurricanes and other crisis and having that system and Mark on his team there as part of the emergency response was a huge asset for this state.
[2:08:13] And, you know, disrespect the city, but we were expecting the city to identify some of what we believe that an
[2:08:25] other came out, when a report came out.
[2:08:28] And so both the decision to have 311 generally during normal times, but particularly for me and those of us that work emergency management, it is just a tremendous asset.
[2:08:40] And they have done a fantastic job.
[2:08:42] I can't imagine having gotten through it without Marko and his team there.
[2:08:47] Marko on the hardline telephone line 311, when did that go into place?
[2:08:55] That started on October 8th, where you can just dial 311 and it goes straight to our system
[2:09:01] So when you put on the chart on the lower right-hand corner which is work order source
[2:09:06] 311 would have been through just that
[2:09:09] No, the new work order system is just going to be with the new app. That's the one I was telling about that you're going to be able to watch
[2:09:15] the MCN live.
[2:09:18] No, I'm referring to on your chart.
[2:09:20] Where you say, work order source, you have two categories.
[2:09:22] Call number.
[2:09:23] Yeah, 311 Paul.
[2:09:24] And you have 311-PAP.
[2:09:27] On this one, sorry.
[2:09:28] Yes, so this is where the reports are coming from.
[2:09:32] So 95% for example, for the fiscal year,
[2:09:35] were through phone calls.
[2:09:37] And the other 5% were through the actual act.
[2:09:40] What do you think?
[2:09:41] It would we would have to undertake to increase the amount of the app use
[2:09:46] Aside from the person actually having a smartphone, right? I mean, what do you think the city could do to promote that a little bit more?
[2:09:54] I didn't see much of a change from the
[2:09:57] Quarter to quarter. It hasn't really changed. It's been kind of stagnant where it's about a thousand a thousand two hundred
[2:10:03] Like I said this quarter it that number actually increased by itself like if people were able to do it from home now
[2:10:10] But with the new app, we're trying to streamline and we're trying to get more information back to them to actually motivate them to use it.
[2:10:19] So instead of just submitting something and then watching it get a result.
[2:10:24] But without any information until it does get resolved with this new app, we're going to try and develop something to get more information back.
[2:10:31] Okay.
[2:10:32] I think as people call in, are you letting them know, hey, just make sure, download the 311 app on each call.
[2:10:38] We have them, but that's something that we can try.
[2:10:40] I think if you implement something like that it will help.
[2:10:42] Because I think a lot of people call because they want sort of an immediate response.
[2:10:46] I could tell you the first time I used the ad and I saw it go through a cycle of progress
[2:10:51] and progress to completion.
[2:10:54] If you use the ad once, honestly, I don't think you'll go back to calling.
[2:10:58] Right.
[2:10:59] It's a very bad idea.
[2:11:00] So it's a quick buying, right, but you've got to inform them.
[2:11:03] So I think as they call, you need to have a small script
[2:11:05] That they let them know at the end of the call to download the app and some of the features and then on the work order source the same one
[2:11:14] You've got the percentages
[2:11:16] If this is the report format could you add number of calls under that as well for shows percentage and number of calls because
[2:11:23] 96 to 4%
[2:11:25] Can be buried a hundred calls and 3000 calls as a tangent on the calls when they're received by life person are we ending the call
[2:11:33] Don't forget to respond to the sentence
[2:11:35] We are implementing. Okay.
[2:11:40] That's a great too. You know, Italian and street lights. That's a great too. I do street. I'll take a picture.
[2:11:45] Okay.
[2:11:51] Any other questions? No, just I do. I assume we also use this. I mean, there's a thousand misgarbage services.
[2:11:57] There's just people that you have to put their bins out. I generally want to repick up.
[2:12:01] So the combination of everything, it's not because it was just a forgot, it could have been that something was blocked
[2:12:08] So for whatever reason, it just got categorized and drew a miss so yeah if one person
[2:12:15] Reports 20 missed garbage services in a few months, but we see a thing be able hey, we need to
[2:12:21] That one individual because they're constantly making us go out again. We should get no offense to send city
[2:12:27] But I will
[2:12:28] We got to get a report on this because that's directly kind of a little more detail report each month.
[2:12:34] I think they provide a different type of data than what we do.
[2:12:37] Yeah, I'm going to bring some to your attention and there's a guy out there who's my district and he's named his email showed up on your report.
[2:12:51] J-M-C-O-L-L-L-S-U-P.
[2:12:55] Call them?
[2:12:55] Oh, the top contributors.
[2:12:57] Yeah, the top users top contributors.
[2:12:59] That guy spends all week going
[2:13:03] car park in front of mailbox.
[2:13:06] Car park in front of mailbox.
[2:13:08] That's what I mean.
[2:13:09] I mean, that's like almost abuse.
[2:13:11] People don't know they did that.
[2:13:12] It's not even his house.
[2:13:13] I mean, you can see it.
[2:13:14] because they went around all the way around all the streets and did it yes I'm
[2:13:21] under it because I'm following it too you have a lot of that because I mean
[2:13:28] this is one instance where I saw it I don't know if you do the data right
[2:13:32] down by the reporter if you start seeing the trends we haven't really looked
[2:13:37] into that because a lot of it is synonymous, it's a very, you have natural name to it.
[2:13:46] It's not anymore, it's not your name now.
[2:13:48] It's a pride for doing that, it's a pride for you.
[2:13:52] Why do it all that?
[2:13:54] Do you need something else to do?
[2:13:57] Yeah, because it seems like it just gets, I mean, do you think about it?
[2:14:00] Do you think about it more?
[2:14:01] Yes, according to the downstairs, yeah.
[2:14:03] But it's time to go out there.
[2:14:05] The chances are that the person needs to move.
[2:14:07] You're like, we're gonna check on him.
[2:14:08] But the app may prepare the response on the app.
[2:14:10] Let me put that on my suitcase.
[2:14:12] No need.
[2:14:12] All of these.
[2:14:13] So he should see the concept response, but that's true.
[2:14:18] Too much.
[2:14:19] If it's a legitimate complaint, it's a, you know,
[2:14:21] what's the direction that you're going to do?
[2:14:22] Maybe you should go into the city.
[2:14:25] Donate.
[2:14:26] OK.
[2:14:27] Anybody else, I hope not.
[2:14:28] Anybody else, any questions about this?
[2:14:30] Thank you.
[2:14:31] You guys do a great job.
[2:14:32] Thank you for all the work that we did on that.
[2:14:35] Okay, some of you want to report?
[2:14:38] We're growing.
[2:14:39] Okay.
[2:14:39] Thank you.
[2:14:41] We've done actually good here today.
[2:14:42] We're going to go down.
[2:14:43] Okay.
[2:14:44] This is real quick.
[2:14:45] We have about five weeks of divisions for the year.
[2:14:48] Today, we're about to part with last year.
[2:14:51] That's in terms of recorded flats, we're a little behind, but we have several projects that
[2:14:55] are in the work and getting close to completion.
[2:14:58] So we hope to have more of that.
[2:15:00] from last year. The recording went down quite a bit, but I think we're kind of catching up.
[2:15:06] The first piece of division plan is about the legacy. It's on the 200 block of south-suckish street on the east side.
[2:15:12] It's a solid art create for both for apartments. It's currently nine lots and being re-plated into one. And it's 3.93 acres.
[2:15:21] That's one of those tax credit deals. Correct, yes sir. Okay, yeah.
[2:15:25] Barcelona's subdivision. This is a new one. It's on the North West corner of
[2:15:30] cold back in North Benson. It's a one-lot development zone for apartments and
[2:15:35] it's a 1.55 acre track in size. Thumbrider and Trinity of subdivision. This is one
[2:15:43] that has been in the work for many years. It kind of looks on the market. It's
[2:15:46] fun. New buyers have come along and they're trying to finish the project. I think the
[2:15:50] rolled throughout to the Kalichi state in 1994.
[2:15:53] So this is one they were getting completed.
[2:15:55] It's got 143 lots.
[2:15:57] 52 of the lots are proposed for a pork lex.
[2:16:00] The balance are for single families.
[2:16:02] It is a 48-acre track, and it's located
[2:16:05] in the northeast corner of Laveet,
[2:16:07] Laveet Road, and Sprite Road.
[2:16:10] It's a price subdivision.
[2:16:12] It's a one-lot development, the southwest corner,
[2:16:15] Dallas and Ninth Street.
[2:16:17] It's a one-lot, and it's 0.49 acres.
[2:16:20] so for apartments, which is what's proposed to be constructed.
[2:16:25] VIA's have been subdivision.
[2:16:26] This is part of a plan unit development.
[2:16:28] The lots that are currently where the tennis courts are
[2:16:31] located, those will be removed.
[2:16:33] And they're doing two new labs for residential purposes.
[2:16:36] I is 0.48 acres and again, it's for a two-lot single family.
[2:16:41] I didn't know one.
[2:16:41] They're for sale or they're, they're going to tear the tennis court down.
[2:16:46] I didn't know, so yes.
[2:16:47] The one place the Dignol recorded was the UPS Mechanical Extension, the south side of
[2:16:53] La Vista, west of the Jackson Road.
[2:16:56] They were both before and I won for a industrial building.
[2:16:59] It was six lines into a two-month development and the acreage for the area was 15.226.
[2:17:07] Any questions?
[2:17:08] No, we're good.
[2:17:09] Thank you.
[2:17:09] Thank you, Luis.
[2:17:11] Appreciate it.
[2:17:12] Project status report.
[2:17:14] or the condensed version, please.
[2:17:18] I'll try to keep it short.
[2:17:20] We can't get the presentation.
[2:17:21] Yeah, a lot of projects.
[2:17:23] I'll just get started.
[2:17:23] We're very excited.
[2:17:28] We saw it.
[2:17:29] Should I just get started?
[2:17:30] Yeah, just go ahead.
[2:17:31] Better roll.
[2:17:32] So we have Kennedy Avenue Drane Improvements, R-D-H,
[2:17:35] as a contractor.
[2:17:36] They have finalized the paving on Kennedy, yes.
[2:17:41] And they are doing cleanup, final cleanup.
[2:17:43] We've been doing a lot of concerns from residents.
[2:17:49] So we're finalizing that clean up and getting that done so we can close out that project.
[2:17:53] Thank you.
[2:17:54] Westway Hyde strain and improvements, that's another one that's kind of been lagging.
[2:17:58] There's irrigation improvements that are left in the pond.
[2:18:00] We're working with a contractor to finalize that.
[2:18:03] We'll be coming back with a final reconciliation, a change order and final reconciliation.
[2:18:08] I think I can take it from there.
[2:18:09] You mean like district number three?
[2:18:11] For that project.
[2:18:12] Irrigation.
[2:18:13] Is there like district number 3 still has irrigation lines through there or what are you talking about?
[2:18:17] No, this is a sprinkler system around we've done the grating around the detention pond
[2:18:24] and we just need to put in the sprinkler to irrigate it.
[2:18:27] So there are kind any projects that's waste waste, the sprinkler system within the park itself.
[2:18:32] By Centennial Extension Project, Texas Cordia has made some good progress on this project.
[2:18:37] They are working at the intersection of Auburn putting down the first lift.
[2:18:42] They're after they're done with that, it should be within this week that they'll complete
[2:18:46] that first lift, then they'll continue with the first lift from Trenton, first lift
[2:18:50] of asphalt, from Trenton to Auburn, and their intent is to open that up to traffic with
[2:18:57] that first lift, and then they'll come back and do the final lift and striping afterwards.
[2:19:01] So within less than a month, I'll say we might have that section opened between Trenton and
[2:19:07] Auburn.
[2:19:08] Let's have a ribbon cutting.
[2:19:09] Yeah, even though they're not complete.
[2:19:12] Hey, if there's traffic on it, we'll have a ribbon cutting.
[2:19:14] We'll have a ribbon cutting.
[2:19:16] There will be a signal there, right?
[2:19:20] There will be a signal at Auburn.
[2:19:23] And there will be a signal at Trenton.
[2:19:25] I don't think I'll find my signal at Trenton.
[2:19:27] Traffic staff is working on the signal installation at Auburn.
[2:19:32] So the next project that we have is another Kennedy project.
[2:19:35] This is a kind of a paving between Benson and where the RDH is a contractor for this as well
[2:19:40] And they are making progress with that project as well
[2:19:47] 29th street the contractor continues with that 2gs is a contractor
[2:19:51] They have connected the storm system which is a last segment a storm storm that needed to be connected at
[2:19:58] Spray and so they're moving forward with a vase and coming in with carbon gutter so they can finalize that pavement as well
[2:20:04] There's two words, but to one spray to one of seven is the last segment. I know and one of the happy finish
[2:20:10] They have until august
[2:20:13] We did a change for it extended it till august. We need a ribbon cutting for that, too. Yes
[2:20:18] Sir the signal is already operational and Oxford in 29th as well
[2:20:21] And so this last will this will be the last segment and you have some work going on on spray
[2:20:26] They're crossing 29th Street taking advantage right now
[2:20:29] with their breaks who are crossing and so we'll be able to finish off that
[2:20:33] intersection with this project. Some pictures of that, Edalgo Bridge,
[2:20:39] Federal Motor Careers facility is underway, they finish the brickwork, they're
[2:20:44] working on the canopies, work is progressing and they have basically until the end
[2:20:49] of August to complete that project. At public works this is a automotive warehouse
[2:20:55] expansion. They've essentially finished with the metal building, the overhead doors are
[2:21:01] working on electrical and the elevator and then some pavement work on the outside.
[2:21:06] What's the size of that one? You know, I don't have it and I don't recall, but I can get
[2:21:12] that for you. That's fine. And then for our bond projects, the first set of bond projects
[2:21:17] that we had under construction, say, four, one, two, three, four, them are complete and
[2:21:23] and work continues right now on the 12th and Esperanza,
[2:21:28] and then that'll wrap up that first group
[2:21:31] that went out for a construction.
[2:21:33] We had a pre-construction meeting on four more projects,
[2:21:38] and actually we're gonna have five more projects this week,
[2:21:41] and then next week we'll have another group
[2:21:44] that will do the pre-con for as well.
[2:21:45] So work continues on the bond projects.
[2:21:48] That's all I have.
[2:21:49] All right, gets it?
[2:21:50] Thank you.
[2:21:51] Oh, that was great.
[2:21:52] Thank you.
[2:22:00] I have a few projects I want to share with you, if you have any questions, if you
[2:22:03] let me know.
[2:22:04] Okay.
[2:22:05] The first one is the shortest part, we have CDBG funding, we have over $175,000, two playgrounds
[2:22:12] and one bathroom that's being converted from the storage room to a, basically a family
[2:22:18] bathroom.
[2:22:19] That's right north of the Boys and Girls Club.
[2:22:22] That's the 27th.
[2:22:23] Yes.
[2:22:24] So that is the facility there.
[2:22:26] And basically, when we're converting,
[2:22:28] there's a storage room that used to be
[2:22:29] served as a concessionary into a family bathroom as well.
[2:22:32] Which is the new standard for our very popular bathrooms.
[2:22:38] This is one of the playgrounds on the east side of the park.
[2:22:43] And all of this work is being done by our staff.
[2:22:45] And obviously, we're getting the green light
[2:22:48] from a vet and her team at CDVG to be able to purchase the parts through our
[2:22:54] cooperative purchasing programs and do the work in hand. So that's saving us a
[2:22:58] lot of money. Some of the quotes that came in at the very beginning were close
[2:23:02] to $300,000. We would have contracted all that.
[2:23:06] Well is that they claim up the pose and not what is that thing?
[2:23:09] No, those are the original standing pose. This is what the playground will look like.
[2:23:12] Okay great. This is a municipal swimming pool. We've had a little delay
[2:23:18] with the rain. The replaster you started today, it'll be done by end of week. We plan to open
[2:23:24] to something pulled by the July 6. All right. Together with what we're doing, even though we're
[2:23:31] not needed now, but we're getting it installed as a new heater for municipal. And this was a
[2:23:37] recently purchased for $40,000 to $193 and stamp what we do in the installation. It is called in
[2:23:43] that is it right there and obviously one of our other projects is our Morris Trail
[2:23:49] which is our connection between bicentennial north of Trenton all the way to
[2:23:54] Auburn this is the trail which moving pretty fast we should be done by
[2:23:58] latter part of all it's looking beautiful Mike but really Mike we can run it
[2:24:05] some of the neighbors that have especially one that don't have a fence that's
[2:24:09] my shoes about trying to see we can move it no it's a little bit difficult to move
[2:24:13] But did we look into maybe making it eight instead of 10?
[2:24:17] Yes, sir.
[2:24:18] I know that we looked at different possibilities.
[2:24:20] But not not moving it north and north.
[2:24:23] No, there's issues with moving it north.
[2:24:25] One is because public works needs access
[2:24:27] and we also have a main irrigation line on the north side.
[2:24:31] So after discussions, after the visit that we had out there
[2:24:34] and working with our engineering team,
[2:24:37] is basically what we'll do is reduce it by two feet.
[2:24:39] And I believe that that's the same thing at least.
[2:24:44] And it will basically appease the neighbors in that area.
[2:24:49] They had a concern, I think there was only three feet
[2:24:51] between the fence and the ex, the southern perimeter
[2:24:56] of our trails.
[2:24:57] So the recommendation, I guess the topic discussed
[2:25:00] was to be able to remove it.
[2:25:02] And that was one, it was going to cost over $5,000.
[2:25:06] But the biggest concern was our irrigation main line.
[2:25:08] So, in talking to our engineering department this morning, the recommendation would be to move forward with reducing it to 8.
[2:25:15] Which makes it a lot easier for the papers.
[2:25:19] The asphalt machine is 8 feet, so it would be a seamless project from one inch to the other.
[2:25:24] So that's what we're looking at at this time.
[2:25:26] That's great. That's all I have to report.
[2:25:29] Okay. Any questions?
[2:25:31] Thank you, Mike.
[2:25:32] Appreciate what you guys are doing.
[2:25:33] future agenda is we got enough really on there a lot way more just a mayor is
[2:25:40] sure uh 33rd street up where the park area is I think we need to kind of discuss it
[2:25:45] with her develop not develop or what's going to happen in that area okay and any
[2:25:50] other possible or any other lands also that we may not need right away to plan
[2:25:56] get a little bit of this. We don't need it. Okay. Allies and all that type of stuff. Yeah,
[2:26:04] oh, that's a good idea. There's always we could abandon and not have to maintain anymore
[2:26:07] and people get to use them. Okay. We put it on. Oh, um, on 29th and Oxford, if we could do something
[2:26:17] like we did with Commissioner Omar there on Vine Street, there's that where we're 29th now curves.
[2:26:23] right you left over some right away even if it's a workshop is that like a
[2:26:27] workshop I mean how do you want to do that in the work yeah I think you could
[2:26:35] ask Mike to look at it right away and see what they again it's out of the
[2:26:40] room comfort in 29th we're 29th out count kind of curves when it meets they've got
[2:26:45] left over I guess the magic city right away you know put some small
[2:26:50] bones and a tree and grass. Yeah, no benches, not just to fill it out. Yeah, that's it. Artificial
[2:27:00] grass because it's so small to more forget it. It takes a lot to know a little piece of
[2:27:06] part here and drag the trucks out there now. Okay, Tonya. Oh, speed bumps. So I kind of want
[2:27:13] I'm going to read some of the feedback options and specifically in La Valvoa and in La Ramosa.
[2:27:21] I know there's the two streets that I believe we talked about that are commissioned as
[2:27:26] that cannot be like that, but I would like to bring that up to discussion just because
[2:27:33] as far as you can from where we're going to make it very, very, very fast.
[2:27:37] Which street is it from?
[2:27:38] Erupe, Elena.
[2:27:41] Oh, no, sorry.
[2:27:41] It's Idela.
[2:27:43] Lucille from the mistaken.
[2:27:45] Right.
[2:27:46] And I think there's the other one there.
[2:27:49] There's another one in there.
[2:27:50] And then also possibility of the speed bumps
[2:27:52] within the subdivisions.
[2:27:55] What do you have the traffic search zone?
[2:27:58] Yeah, but I cannot do one-on-one already, specifically
[2:28:03] I can see that that's a huge strip but within some divisions it's kind of like for example
[2:28:11] like in the Laramosa that one doesn't need since feet bumps also the one that is directly
[2:28:16] north of the expressway and just because a lot of people have been kind of going around going
[2:28:21] around the expressway and going through the streets so hopefully we can do some maybe something
[2:28:27] temporary or something like that but let's just look into it.
[2:28:29] We'll bring it back. I mean, it is part of the study that the traffic engineering does and it has to do with
[2:28:36] In fact, the wider the street, the bigger the arterial
[2:28:40] The less likely it is that it qualifies for speed bump, but we'll bring you that
[2:28:46] Okay, and the other things for future genomes
[2:28:50] Okay, next table we take this come out of the table large and exotic animals
[2:28:55] Yes, sir. We were asked to do updated ordinance based on the feedback and the assistant city attorney Austin students and
[2:29:02] Description of
[2:29:05] Yeah, yeah
[2:29:06] I was thirsty. I was the same time motion carried
[2:29:09] So what we did is come up with some objective criteria
[2:29:22] that was put in the ordinance, one of which, the main one, in my opinion, is the animal welfare act compliance with that.
[2:29:28] That way we're referring to another agency's objective criteria, not trying to make it up on our own in-house, should somebody ever challenge this.
[2:29:36] What this ordinance does is it requires somebody to get an animal exhibition permit if they're going to use a larger exotic animal.
[2:29:42] They have to make that written application.
[2:29:44] the city manager or his designate has the authority to approve that permit and then the person can appeal to the city commission within three days if that permit is denied or if an activist group or community group or whoever has concerns.
[2:30:00] It's approved and shouldn't be approved, they also can appeal it to the city commission. So this way, you don't have to hear these every single time they come. But if there's some specific controversy, each party has the right to appeal it to the commission. I think on the appeal of the approval and requires signature, 25 people. So we ready for these here. Do they have any residents? Do they have to be metallic residents? The 25 people that find them? We can put that in there, I didn't know. Because now they're going to just get their own circus people to say yes.
[2:30:29] So no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[2:30:31] The other way is the Board.
[2:30:31] Is there a way of challenging?
[2:30:33] Well, the students couldn't appeal just by right
[2:30:34] because they're going to be the applicant.
[2:30:36] I thought we had just, well.
[2:30:37] I think 25 citizens would be appropriate, aren't you?
[2:30:40] Yes.
[2:30:41] Because they're, they could get their petition sign like that.
[2:30:44] Yeah, exactly.
[2:30:45] Now, when I get to say a manager receives an application,
[2:30:48] what do they want to provide that shows that they can
[2:30:51] play with the animal welfare act?
[2:30:52] I mean, is that something simple for them to provide?
[2:30:55] Or what do we want to, how we want to get that objective information?
[2:30:59] Because I think that we make the decision, you've got to have something in front of them, right?
[2:31:02] So what we have to do is design application, which is a certain part of the ordinance,
[2:31:07] but design application that requires certain information and then come up with some in-house policies
[2:31:10] on animal control and code enforcement doing some sort of inspection to verify the information.
[2:31:14] Yeah, because you can't really do an inspection till they're here and they're here.
[2:31:18] And then how will the public get noticed of an approved permit?
[2:31:24] The Zen City.
[2:31:27] So we're going to still allow them to come up here, kind of like with the very
[2:31:39] issue that we put every week.
[2:31:43] We could be, I guess we would have to do a public notice requirement in ordinance commissioners
[2:31:48] a good point.
[2:31:49] That's all I have to say.
[2:31:50] Because I was like, no one will tell them in the court.
[2:31:52] That has been approved.
[2:31:53] Okay, but the public notice, what I do is add it to the, if we press the new website,
[2:31:57] I don't know if you all want public notice, like the traditional, which is somewhat costly,
[2:32:01] public notice that we do for zoning and PNC.
[2:32:03] Yeah.
[2:32:04] And we have to do public announcement.
[2:32:06] Well, they have to do public announcement.
[2:32:07] They have to do public announcement.
[2:32:07] No, not put down Facebook.
[2:32:09] That's better.
[2:32:10] Just make it somehow.
[2:32:12] Why do I think there's a public notice?
[2:32:14] The applicant would cover the cost of the public notice.
[2:32:16] Oh, yeah.
[2:32:17] The fee right now pretty low. Yeah, why don't you do the fee plus the cost. Yeah, yeah, there's only a few a year
[2:32:26] Okay,
[2:32:30] like how much is how much is a public?
[2:32:32] But what's playing in zoning one time playing in zoning? Who's here playing the zone?
[2:32:40] 500 bucks plus or 250 feet of face would be 750
[2:32:48] Yeah, you would charge it. It's the permit fee of $1,750 and it would be all in pieces.
[2:32:53] Okay, you got it on up? Is everybody interested? You want to recite that?
[2:32:58] It'll be the amendment as submitted with the addition of a public notice requirement as described by the commission.
[2:33:05] And Mac Allen residents. Mac Allen residents only on the particular.
[2:33:09] Yes.
[2:33:10] Thank you.
[2:33:11] Okay, motion is weak to cut. I was in favor say aye.
[2:33:14] Aye.
[2:33:14] For the same side and motion carried I want to make an announcement
[2:33:17] I'm no longer going to be kidding about expensive bathrooms. Now my new jokes are sent city
[2:33:24] But you know that aren't you happy Michelle? Okay, Mayor's report cares act response
[2:33:30] I wish I could say we had a response but we haven't so we were I was hoping that we would get a response
[2:33:35] Well, we haven't got a report on COVID by the way. Let's see today
[2:33:40] We had 193 new cases in the county
[2:33:44] We had 35 from McAllen, we had 146 in the hospital, 15 ICU, and 21 went to the hospital today for total, and then on McAllen, we had six hospitalizations of those numbers go to the hospital today.
[2:34:01] We had one fatality from far.
[2:34:05] I would, yeah, it's pretty long.
[2:34:07] 193 I think it's the highest.
[2:34:09] We've been breaking everything.
[2:34:10] We still haven't on the table about reopening the parks
[2:34:14] and the sanitation.
[2:34:15] Is that still open?
[2:34:16] We can talk about that.
[2:34:17] In fact, we've talked about it.
[2:34:18] We have events come up on July 4th.
[2:34:20] The bathrooms are open.
[2:34:22] What business has been required to have the remask?
[2:34:25] I think we should treat ourselves like a business.
[2:34:28] Yes.
[2:34:28] I think it's appropriate.
[2:34:29] and so, you know, as we open up things, you know, I, um, escaped on, you know, like the library,
[2:34:36] um, you know, I think people go to the library or wear a mask or really know what I'm
[2:34:40] looking for.
[2:34:41] And when we first did it, people felt, um, comfortable.
[2:34:44] So I think that, uh, I know we're, uh, doing that, that more and more, but I think it's a good
[2:34:49] example to the public and, um, we'll continue to, to do that, if you have any suggestions,
[2:34:54] call me.
[2:34:56] to answer your question. We are opening parts slowly based on conversations we've had here.
[2:35:03] Yeah. We haven't opened up the bathroom.
[2:35:06] Yes we have.
[2:35:07] Okay.
[2:35:07] Yeah we have.
[2:35:09] Yeah man, I forgot my children doing cleaning but if you have any questions or comments
[2:35:14] about letting open reading deck.
[2:35:16] Let's become a health issue.
[2:35:18] I mean people are out there and there's no there's no bathroom so there's a lot of people out in the
[2:35:23] the parks exercise and not been one of the benefits of this.
[2:35:27] It's amazing.
[2:35:28] Mike, can you give a report on how you're cleaning them please?
[2:35:31] At less than half a million for ten minutes.
[2:35:35] Six hundred and fifty.
[2:35:36] And how often do you clean?
[2:35:37] So we have warning sanitation and evening sanitation.
[2:35:41] We have a crew that's working till eight o'clock at night every day.
[2:35:45] And basically after we do the morning sanitation,
[2:35:47] we are using basically the sanitation spray
[2:35:50] that has been obviously working really good for us.
[2:35:53] So we do it first thing in the mornings,
[2:35:55] and at the end of the day for us is 8 o'clock.
[2:35:57] And we close the bathrooms.
[2:35:58] We have security coming in, closing some of the busier
[2:36:01] bathrooms at 11 o'clock, such as Artre Park.
[2:36:04] A lot of the others are being closed by 10 p.m.
[2:36:08] End of the day is right before you lock it.
[2:36:11] Yes, sir.
[2:36:12] Our ship.
[2:36:14] We come into the morning 7 a.m.
[2:36:18] And we do a cleaning before we open.
[2:36:20] So why don't we change it the night time
[2:36:22] and because no one's going into the night,
[2:36:24] and you and Mrs. Lever,
[2:36:26] the staff comes in and the day for our staff is 8 o'clock.
[2:36:32] But security is closing the bathrooms between 10
[2:36:37] so we come in in the morning and it's entertaining.
[2:36:40] No, no, no, that would be double work for nothing.
[2:36:42] Right, exactly.
[2:36:44] Okay, so at any rate, that's a code opium.
[2:36:47] We will be sending a letter, I think,
[2:36:50] to the governor asking that instead of businesses being the one that's the burden of that is
[2:36:56] allowed to go back to local governments for masking in public and we think that's more
[2:37:01] appropriate than making our businesses criminals for something that we really should be doing
[2:37:07] enforcement.
[2:37:08] Strongly encourage still businesses to do it but I think there'd be a more palatable and
[2:37:15] If they're fine, they're like, let's say you go to an HB without a mask, the HB is fine, the $1,000, the person is fine.
[2:37:22] And the only thing the way HB can escape that is call that officer and say, rest him for criminal trespass, because he violated that order.
[2:37:29] So, yeah, the last thing I'm going to do is have to go in and tell HB to have one of their customers arrested.
[2:37:36] Not HB, everybody, but I mean, that's, so essentially it's voluntary again, because nobody's going to do that.
[2:37:43] You know, even the judge when he issued his order was the intent that he didn't want anybody
[2:37:47] aggressive.
[2:37:48] But I don't want to arrest anybody either, but I think the message comes clearer when
[2:37:53] it's done by local government as far as the governor is saying.
[2:37:56] Make business through it.
[2:37:57] We're not regulating people.
[2:37:58] We'll have to be regulating people.
[2:38:01] And you know, Edinburgh was a gross question down, because I have two staff members at the
[2:38:08] And by the way, most of our people now are known people, a lot of family members, putting
[2:38:15] spread it out through the whole family.
[2:38:16] I think that's education for us.
[2:38:18] And then the third is, second is community, because you don't know who gave it to them and
[2:38:23] the third is travel now.
[2:38:25] So it kind of flipped over on the cases that we're getting.
[2:38:29] And that's, you know, the numbers are up, so we'll see what happens.
[2:38:34] important budget meetings when we start budget meetings.
[2:38:36] First week of August.
[2:38:38] First week of August, look at that calendar you know and those are pretty intensive and
[2:38:43] budgets probably more important this year than it's ever been so I appreciate everybody
[2:38:47] coming and participating there.
[2:38:50] And then last on June team we had a real successful June team I think and thank you for all that
[2:38:55] everybody went and considering all that happened in the country in the last month I think
[2:39:01] I think it gave a different, we shed a different light on it in our city, and I think it was successful.
[2:39:07] Thank you very much for, I just want to add socially did a very good job with that interview on the production.
[2:39:12] Very, very nice.
[2:39:13] Very, very good, good work.
[2:39:15] Zen City, they like our Juneteenth or not.
[2:39:20] I got, we'll know that tomorrow.
[2:39:23] That's yet any questions that's that's all I add on that and
[2:39:27] And thank you mayor for doing the contribution from the mayor's fund to put that I guess that structure
[2:39:34] Yeah, you know
[2:39:35] Our names on it in our names on this historical marker in in order to get legal
[2:39:42] We might ask for a lease from the church, you know to do this and they they've indicated their willingness to donate the land to the to the city
[2:39:49] So we see, yeah, and so but our name is I know already is a historical marker and I thought, you know, we got a
[2:39:56] Make it appropriate. Okay. That's all I had executive session. Yes, premier items TNAB and D are attorney-climbed
[2:40:03] Privilege Center 52071 of the code in the attorney-climbed privilege file. It sees economic development under early 7
[2:40:10] I'm opinion they're all eligible to discuss the executive session. It's commissions are to do so. I wasn't mean you know, take a motion
[2:40:16] Second.
[2:40:18] All the favour say aye.
[2:40:19] All right.
[2:40:19] Oli C. Moshin, carry.
[2:40:21] OK, move the executive.
[2:40:22] They're taking the party.
[2:40:33] Mayor of Commission item 1080, no action.
[2:40:35] TNB, you're recommending entertainer motion authorize
[2:40:37] and city attorney's office to begin the process.
[2:40:41] With respect to the bridge project validation process.
[2:40:46] Second.
[2:40:46] Emotion second discussion.
[2:40:48] Here now, no, I was favor say aye.
[2:40:50] Aye.
[2:40:50] Oli C. Moshin, carry.
[2:40:52] We need any action on the error.
[2:40:53] I'm going to go.
[2:40:54] Yeah.
[2:40:54] Okay, that's all I have around.
[2:40:56] Okay.
[2:40:57] And it's 830...