[4:29] >>Call the meeting to order on Tuesday,

[4:31] July 21, 2020 in Council Chambers at

[4:33] 222 N. Tennessee Street. It is 6:12 PM.

[4:41] We will begin with an invocation and

[4:45] Pledge of Allegiance. Invocation given

[4:46] by Pastor Mark Turman of Crosspoint

[4:50] church. Are you there?

[4:51] >> I am

[4:52] >> Lord, we thank you for this good day as

[5:00] We transition from [Indiscernible] and set

[5:01] our hearts and minds on this meeting. We

[5:02] welcome you into this time and we ask

[5:03] that you watch over us and Lord, you

[5:13] bring us increased compassion for each

[5:17] other in our city, that you give us

[5:18] clarity for the business and issues we

[5:19] need to discuss and deliberate tonight.

[5:25] And we give you praise for the goodness

[5:26] and generosity you showed to us

[5:32] individually and collectively.

[5:33] [Indiscernible] for the Mayor and

[5:34] Council persons and thank you for our

[5:35] city manager and city staff. We thank

[5:37] you that we get to call this place home

[5:41] as citizens. Lord give us direction

[5:47] understanding, give us clarity and help

[5:49] us as we deliberate to do so with pull

[5:51] civility toward one another, with

[5:53] consideration and patience, give us

[5:55] insight that can only come from you.

[6:00] Lord, help us to seek the good of the

[6:01] city in which we live for all of us. In

[6:04] Jesus name we pray, Amen.

[6:44] >>[Pledge of Allegiance]

[6:45] >> We have public comments on agenda

[6:53] items. The first one is Mimi Noris, does

[6:55] not wish to speak but once to have her

[7:03] opposition to 20040z2 noted

[7:07] >> We have a few people that would like

[7:15] to speak. Three minutes. On item

[7:20] 200616, Rwanda [Indiscernible]

[7:30] >> Hello Councilman I wanted to say the

[7:31] other day I had a wonderful time

[7:38] watching La'shadion and the Mayor

[7:39] Fuller and Paul Grimes come out to the

[7:40] cemetery and help clean up a cemetery

[7:42] where black people could only be buried.

[7:49] As we look through our history, we

[7:50] look through whether it is in McKinney

[7:51] or other states we realize there is

[7:54] history that is taking place that has

[7:56] been belittling to human beings of

[7:59] color. This statue is one of those. The

[8:02] statues across the states are those.

[8:06] Five months from now it will still be

[8:09] offensive it is offensive today it's

[8:13] going to be offensive when you create a

[8:14] task force for it it's going to be

[8:22] offensive when they debate whether it

[8:23] should be removed or not and I ask you

[8:24] to have that level of civility and

[8:25] understanding and working together to

[8:26] know if it is offensive to people in

[8:27] your community then it should not be

[8:30] put in the grounds of a court building.

[8:35] It does not belong there. The court

[8:36] building symbolizes justice for all. We

[8:40] just pledged allegiance to the flag,

[8:45] justice for all. When we have slave

[8:48] traders and history of abusing human

[8:49] beings and that is put in front of a

[8:51] court building it does not signify

[8:54] justice for all. I come to you and I

[8:55] ask you to think about that. It can be

[9:01] somewhere else but it should never be

[9:02] in a court building that has to

[9:05] administer or has a history of

[9:07] administering justice when it is

[9:08] supposed to be justice for all. Thank

[9:11] you

[9:12] >> [Applause]

[9:13] >> [Indiscernible] Johnson

[9:14] >> Hello everyone. Throckmorton was in

[9:26] opposer of the 14th amendment which

[9:31] gave citizenship to everyone born in

[9:34] the United States including former

[9:39] slaves and their families. It was one

[9:43] of three amendments passed during the

[9:44] Reconstruction era to establish rights

[9:47] for black Americans. The 14th amendment

[9:51] was key in landmark Supreme Court

[9:52] decision such as brown versus education

[9:54] which ruled segregating schools was

[9:58] unjust. According to Texas after the

[10:00] Civil War, the struggle of

[10:07] reconstruction by Carl Monahan a

[10:08] professor of history at the University

[10:09] of Arkansas in his inaugural address

[10:18] Throckmorton on one hand urged Texas

[10:19] legislators not to take action that

[10:20] would cause the north to doubt their

[10:23] loyalty. But on the other encourage

[10:24] them not to ratify the 14th amendment.

[10:27] Legislators did as he urged. Calling

[10:31] the amendment nothing more than an

[10:34] effort to raise black above white. They

[10:41] voted 70-5 rejected the 14th

[10:45] amendment. To raise Blacks above whites

[10:48] is not the sentiment behind the 14th

[10:51] amendment or the current movement.

[10:56] Think about it. Do you really think the

[11:01] African-American community is trying to

[11:02] set itself above any other group of

[11:03] people? Do you really think that? Does

[11:10] anyone really think that? Who thinks

[11:12] this way? What intelligent person sits

[11:13] down and tosses back and forth the

[11:16] notion that we are better than they?

[11:23] Who does that? I hate to say it but it

[11:24] seems that those who do support the

[11:27] Confederate movement do just that. The

[11:32] point is for equality in humanity,

[11:37] people are people, human beings are

[11:41] human beings, whether Asian, Black,

[11:47] Hispanic, white or whatever. We are not

[11:48] asking that the statue be destroyed. We

[11:54] are requesting the statue be moved to a

[11:56] more appropriate place. Perhaps a

[12:00] museum or the Pecan Grove cemetery, the

[12:07] gravesite of James Throckmorton. Not

[12:08] just the middle of the public square

[12:10] which should be a reflection of all.

[12:15] >> [Applause]

[12:21] >> Eric Scholz.

[12:22] >> Good evening. Eric Scholz 1505

[12:43] timberline Drive in McKinney. I spoke a

[12:46] couple weeks ago and I think it's

[12:49] necessary to speak again. A little

[12:51] background. From where I'm coming from.

[12:56] I am a 15 year Army veteran combat

[13:01] disabled. A unit in Grand Prairie born

[13:04] and raised in Hillsboro Texas. I am

[13:11] certified through Fort Leavenworth

[13:15] civil for military history to teach

[13:16] military history at the University

[13:17] level and I did that and I want

[13:24] McKinney to be on the right side of

[13:25] history with this and right now we are

[13:32] not. For the concerns that we are

[13:38] taking away from history, as a military

[13:39] history instructor for the United

[13:40] States Army and the University of South

[13:41] Florida, there is no conflict more

[13:44] documented especially on the

[13:45] Confederacy side than the US Civil War.

[13:50] There are tens of thousands of books

[13:56] hundreds of movies, museums, we are not

[13:57] losing history by moving the statue.

[14:02] I've also charted every Confederate

[14:05] monument in the Dallas-Fort Worth

[14:06] metropolitan area and surrounding

[14:10] areas. This is the last one standing in

[14:16] the metropolitan area. You are not

[14:18] going to be first but right now you are

[14:23] last at DFW and we need BB on the right

[14:24] side of history with this. The reason

[14:30] they took them down obviously they been

[14:31] debating the statues for years and

[14:34] decades but it's also a public safety

[14:37] issue. If we don't take this down

[14:40] immediately, then there is a great risk

[14:41] that it could be taken down without

[14:47] official support and that could be that

[14:52] could hurt the people taking it down or

[14:53] people responding to that trying to

[14:55] defend the statue and we don't want to

[14:56] see anyone hurt in the city. I ask that

[14:59] the city Council moved today to bring

[15:04] down the statue. No commission, no

[15:09] study, bring it down today move it

[15:11] somewhere and then have a commission

[15:12] what you want to do after that but if

[15:13] you don't take it down immediately you

[15:17] are risking harm to the people in

[15:22] McKinney.

[15:23] >> Debbie [Indiscernible]

[15:24] >> After all those people I can't tell

[15:38] you how frivolous I want to talk about

[15:41] will sound to you but it's not

[15:42] frivolous to the unincorporated

[15:45] citizens. I'd like to thank you for

[15:46] your service and everything you've done.

[15:52] I don't know anybody who would want to

[15:53] be Mayor or Councilman or leader it's a

[15:54] hard time and you are you're doing your

[15:56] best. I am a single mom of four young

[15:59] adults the youngest one in the last

[16:02] year at UT. All four went to McKinney

[16:04] schools and at one time I had a child in

[16:08] all schools at the same time I talked

[16:12] for McKinney ISD. My mom moved here

[16:20] from Stonebridge was on a piece of

[16:21] paper and she took me to her meeting

[16:22] and I said if you think they will put a

[16:23] beach in the middle of the field you

[16:24] have lost your mind but they did. My

[16:26] grandson will be [Indiscernible] and we

[16:27] will have five generations of my family

[16:28] that have moved to McKinney. I could

[16:31] not send for kids to college on a

[16:43] school teacher salary. [Indiscernible]

[16:47] I opened a wedding venue and I know you

[16:48] had people here are a couple of months

[16:49] ago and I was not here because my I had

[16:54] my first granddaughter. The clearest

[16:55] picture I can give you what's happening

[16:56] in the wedding industry is you have a

[17:01] [Indiscernible] and you come back to

[17:04] the wedding industry and say give me

[17:05] another car and now we have people

[17:06] coming back and saying give me another

[17:09] car. I have an angry mom coming

[17:11] tomorrow that thinks I should lose

[17:12] $15,000 changing her day twice. I lost

[17:20] over $160,000. I do this on my own and

[17:21] don't have financing our banks. You can

[17:24] imagine how excited I was when I heard

[17:27] about the [Indiscernible] obviously my

[17:31] financial issues. Are none of your

[17:33] problems and you don't have anything to

[17:34] do about it but when I found out after

[17:43] paying McKinney taxes by generation of

[17:44] taxes all my kids grew up in McKinney I

[17:45] had two houses and my third one is two

[17:48] miles outside the city and being two

[17:49] miles outside of the city I was not

[17:50] allowed to apply for any of the money.

[17:54] We have 600 guests per week and. I'm

[17:57] the only venue in the City of McKinney

[18:02] in the McKinney area that is in the not

[18:06] Hall of Fame. You may not have heard of

[18:07] me, that's fine I had not heard of you

[18:08] until I looked you up. Scott Elliott

[18:12] you do not have a synopsis on the

[18:16] commission page. Because you have been

[18:18] here a long time I think you understand

[18:19] I'm a citizen of McKinney. So I'm

[18:24] asking you to ask the county if they

[18:25] can open it up to the unincorporated

[18:29] area and I'd like to say on that form

[18:30] it asks if you are renting a business

[18:35] or leasing, it should knockout people

[18:39] that own their own business it also

[18:40] asks for the inventory some of us have

[18:41] inventory that can't be a dollar amount

[18:42] it's a day or another. Thank you for

[18:45] listening to me, I brought the horse is

[18:49] a dead horse and I may be beating a

[18:50] dead horse but thank you

[18:51] >> Are there any other speakers?

[18:52] >> We also have an agenda item

[19:22] [Indiscernible] Rodney Clark has

[19:27] submitted a notice of support for

[19:34] agenda item 200026.

[19:36] >> Let that be part of the record

[19:37] >> I do not have any other comments for

[19:38] items, we will move on to the consent

[19:45] agenda, items consisting of

[19:49] non-controversial, the public comments

[19:55] [Indiscernible]

[19:56] >> Consent agenda consists of

[20:03] non-controversial housekeeping required

[20:04] by law and may be considered

[20:05] individually by any Council member

[20:06] making such request prior to a motion

[20:07] to vote on the consent items

[20:08] >> Is there any item on the consent a

[20:09] Council member would like to pull down?

[20:16] If not, I will accept a motion to

[20:18] approve

[20:19] >> Move to approve, second

[20:20] >> All in favor? Motion passes

[20:37] >> Plaque consideration. Items under

[20:45] this subcategory require separate

[20:46] consideration pursuant to Texas local

[20:47] government code the staff

[20:48] recommendation described the necessary

[20:49] form of action required on each plat a

[20:50] motion to approve in accordance with

[20:51] staff recommendation will result in

[20:56] approval.

[20:57] >> There's one item, 200083pf act on a

[21:04] preliminary final plat for the JVC real

[21:08] estate addition located in the ETJ of

[21:10] McKinney 1600 feet north of County Road

[21:11] 408 and E side of farm to market roads

[21:20] >> Staff is recommending approval with

[21:21] conditions and variances to the plat.

[21:22] I'm happy to answer any questions

[21:23] >> Are there questions for Jennifer?

[21:25] >> Thank you Jennifer

[21:26] >> Move to approve the items

[21:32] >> Second

[21:35] >> Please vote

[21:36] >> Motion passes

[22:03] >> 20004z2. A public hearing to act on

[22:07] a request to rezone subject property

[22:11] from Planned Development District to

[22:15] Planned Development District generally

[22:16] to modify the use and development

[22:17] standards to allow for an indoor and

[22:19] outdoor wedding event venue or banquet

[22:23] facility

[22:24] >> At the time of publishing the agenda

[22:27] the applicant requested the table but

[22:30] yesterday they request for it to be

[22:34] withdrawn for consideration

[22:38] >> As it was still on the agenda if

[22:39] there are people that would like to

[22:40] speak please understand it has been

[22:42] withdrawn, which means it has been

[22:44] pulled and will not be under

[22:47] consideration. I will call these names.

[22:53] If anyone did come to speak, make

[22:57] yourself [Indiscernible] I don't see any

[23:02] . Do we need to do anything for the

[23:03] item to be withdrawn?

[23:07] >> Nope

[23:08] >> We'll move on to the next item

[23:09] >> We don't need to open the public

[23:30] hearing

[23:31] >> If anyone did come I want to give

[23:32] them the opportunity to speak but I

[23:39] don't see anyone. 200040z2 request the

[23:48] subject property from single-family

[23:49] residence to duplex residential

[23:50] district located beside rock Wall

[23:51] Street and 615 feet north of Gerrish

[23:52] Street

[23:53] >> I would like to note for the record

[23:59] that following publishing of the agenda

[24:00] staff validated additional signature on

[24:01] a protest petition that has been passed

[24:04] out to Council. With the protest

[24:05] petition qualifying signatures

[24:06] representing 20 percent or more of the

[24:08] area within the protest area is needed

[24:17] to require ace majority vote of the

[24:18] Council with the additional signatures

[24:19] received it does meet the threshold at

[24:22] 66 percent. I will get into the item

[24:27] more but I wanted to confirm based on

[24:31] the Planning and Zoning Commission

[24:32] action as well as the protest petition

[24:33] a super majority vote is a required.

[24:34] >> This request is to rezone .7 acres

[24:54] from single-family residence to duplex

[24:59] residential district. The applicant has

[25:00] worked with city staff and we have

[25:02] reviewed the request in relationship to

[25:06] the area around it and a comprehensive

[25:14] [Indiscernible] higher density

[25:15] developments. In the area just south of

[25:16] the subject property there is a

[25:17] drainage culvert and on the north side

[25:21] there is a church. As you see on the

[25:22] map, there are a few residences in the

[25:25] neighborhood that sees duplex

[25:29] structures. With all of those things

[25:34] considered staff recommends approval.

[25:35] During the Planning and Zoning

[25:36] Commission meeting we heard from

[25:38] residents citing concerns regarding

[25:40] duplexes in this location. After

[25:42] discussion the commission voted 7-2

[25:51] To recommend denial. Staff recommended

[25:56] Approval. P&Z recommends denial and you

[25:57] will hear from folks with their

[25:58] concerns on the proposed rezoning.

[26:04] >> Are there questions for Jennifer?

[26:06] >> The duplex zoning that is out there,

[26:12] is that all zoning?

[26:13] >> Yes

[26:18] >> So the majority, the duplex zoning

[26:19] [Indiscernible]

[26:21] >> There is not.

[26:22] >> Most of the surrounding is RS 60

[26:28] >> Predominantly to the south and as we

[26:30] progress north some of the fabric of

[26:33] the single-family has dissolved a bit

[26:35] with the drainage culvert in the

[26:39] church. Those are some of the factors

[26:40] we looked at

[26:43] >> Any other questions for staff?

[26:47] >> I believe the applicant is here

[26:52] >> Would the applicant like to come up

[26:54] and address Council?

[26:55] >> The applicant for this item?

[26:56] >> I stand corrected, he must not be

[27:14] here

[27:15] >> A gentleman just came in the door

[27:16] >> That is not him

[27:18] >> This is a public hearing. We have

[27:21] people that would wish to speak.

[27:25] >> I will call the name and tell you so

[27:31] you can be prepared. Jeanette Palmer.

[27:37] After this, Kimberly Palmer

[27:38] >> Registers opposition to the item

[27:39] >> Kimberly Palmer? Registered as

[28:01] opposition to the item

[28:09] >> Jonas Palmer Christopher Palmer

[28:10] >> Good afternoon. My name is Kimberly

[28:25] Palmer and I live at 904

[28:29] [Indiscernible] I am here to represent

[28:34] the community and the citizens

[28:38] surrounding the subject property. This

[28:43] community was developed as a single

[28:44] family dwelling community in the 1840s

[28:45] the subject property is in the heart of

[28:46] the community. If duplexes are placed

[28:48] there it will disturb the atmosphere.

[28:52] There are 19 homes within the 200 feet

[28:58] of the subject property. 10 of the

[29:00] residents are elderly. That would

[29:04] negatively impact their lives. There

[29:08] are several of them I completed the

[29:11] zoning protests for the community and

[29:12] there are 26 names on this and my

[29:19] husband and I walked the community for

[29:20] those adjacent homes surrounding the

[29:23] subject property. 10 of the 19 homes or

[29:26] elderly members who are over the age of

[29:30] 70+. They will be negatively impacted

[29:33] because of the added traffic, not

[29:39] knowing who is coming to and from those

[29:44] locations at the duplexes. We all know

[29:45] and I've seen it for myself because

[29:46] I've been around areas in duplexes

[29:50] before when you have duplexes, people

[29:53] are there temporarily, not focused on

[29:54] the community aspect of the community.

[30:02] They are not trying to get to know

[30:03] people in the community, they are there

[30:04] to rest their head temporarily until

[30:05] they find something permanent. This

[30:08] would be a detriment to our

[30:09] single-family dwelling community for

[30:13] that reason. I respect you very much if

[30:16] you would consider not rezoning that

[30:22] development

[30:24] >> Jonas Palmer and then Christopher

[30:30] Palmer

[30:43] >> How are you doing today? My name is

[30:49] Jonas Palmer I'm 21 years old and that

[30:50] was my mother that just spoke. She was

[30:54] talking about statistics and I'm here

[30:55] to talking about the community. The

[31:00] community keeps we are a single-family

[31:04] dwelling community about how our

[31:05] community has potentially dissolved

[31:06] going onto the back streets. I want to

[31:07] say that is not the case.. After being

[31:13] there for 21 years we are a close-knit

[31:14] community that cares about each other

[31:17] when new people move and we incorporate

[31:19] them into our things that have been

[31:21] into the community. With these duplexes

[31:23] being put in that may not be the case.

[31:36] I listen to what my parents are saying

[31:37] and talking about with the petition and

[31:38] the reactions they got from people and

[31:39] the general consensus is they do not

[31:40] want duplexes because I don't feel safe

[31:41] for their kids or the elderly don't

[31:42] feel safe in their homes and they don't

[31:46] feel safe taking walks and getting

[31:47] exercise because of the potential they

[31:49] duplex. Just the placing of it is

[31:53] inconvenient, there is no parking for

[31:58] the church. It's going to ruin the

[32:02] overall community feel. Not because

[32:03] they are temporary movers or they just

[32:05] come in to rent but because the

[32:06] community has been built and set and

[32:08] it's one it's been a minority community

[32:17] and incorporating people who don't know

[32:18] about it who may or may not care about

[32:23] it and may bring in things that are a

[32:29] detriment to the community I don't feel

[32:30] and the community does not feel that's

[32:31] okay and I wanted to speak on that

[32:32] thank you for your time

[32:33] >> [Applause]

[32:37] >> Christopher Palmer and then Maia

[32:42] Burns

[32:43] >> Christopher?

[33:03] >> He does not wish to speak but he is

[33:08] in opposition

[33:10] >> Maia Burns and then Jasmine Burns

[33:11] >> We can register in opposition

[33:25] >> Maia Burns is in opposition. Jasmine

[33:31] Burns in opposition.

[33:32] >> After Jasmine will be Gerard

[33:49] [Indiscernible]

[33:50] >> I have come here today to speak on

[33:51] behalf of of the people who can't speak

[33:55] for themselves. That is the elderly

[33:56] members of the community who live on

[34:00] Rockwall Street. Every Sunday I make my

[34:04] rounds and speak to the ones who are

[34:05] sick or shut in or can't get around. As

[34:09] I speak to them I get to hear a lot of

[34:10] concerns and how they feel about the

[34:13] neighborhood. Quite a few of them feel

[34:16] threatened by the presence of duplexes.

[34:21] I feel like this is not misplaced

[34:22] because duplexes do pose a present

[34:25] danger. Perhaps not in the tenants

[34:27] themselves but what the duplexes can

[34:31] bring. The higher traffic that comes

[34:32] from the increased population density

[34:35] will make efforts to come in and out of

[34:38] the community more difficult. This

[34:39] isn't just a minor inconvenience for

[34:43] those of us able-bodied but this can be

[34:45] an open danger to the elderly members

[34:46] because they may not get the help they

[34:49] need. My grandfather who lives on

[34:50] Rockwall Street close to the church is

[34:53] elderly and disabled and cannot get

[34:57] around. I am worried a lot of the time

[35:02] that he may not be able to get the help

[35:03] he needs because there is something

[35:07] obstructing first responders

[35:08] obstructing us from getting to him.

[35:12] Another elderly member who lives on

[35:14] that street very sweet woman who is 94

[35:16] years old can get around really well,

[35:22] very sweet lady, but I'm also worried

[35:25] about her safety because she is so much

[35:28] older I know it's going to be difficult

[35:29] for people to get to her and to think

[35:34] that could be stopped by something as

[35:38] simple as withholding the zoning from

[35:42] being rezoned, it seems like a

[35:46] no-brainer fix to me. Over all, that's

[35:47] what I'm worried about as a citizen.

[35:50] Thank you

[35:52] >> [Applause]

[35:58] >> I apologize but it looks like Gerard

[36:05] [Indiscernible]

[36:06] >> Afterwards is Angela Henderson

[36:13] >> Good evening. I've lived here for

[36:19] two years. My wife and I decided to

[36:22] live on the side of McKinney for the

[36:23] sense of community we felt while

[36:25] researching the area. There's a high a

[36:31] lot of minorities in the area and deep

[36:32] roots in my neighborhood especially on

[36:35] my corner. The three sets of neighbors

[36:36] have been there for more than 50 years

[36:38] and bringing in a set of duplexes will

[36:43] separate, it won't feel like the

[36:44] community that is there now. I'm in

[36:49] opposition of the duplex because I feel

[36:50] there is not a lot of care for the area

[36:55] and I think the duplex will make

[37:01] district 1 more of a temporary home

[37:02] instead of the community that's been

[37:04] there for 50 years.

[37:07] >> Thank you

[37:08] >> Angela Henderson and then

[37:11] [Indiscernible] Palmer

[37:17] >> Angela is in opposition to the

[37:24] rezoning

[37:25] >> [Indiscernible] Palmer

[37:30] >> Good evening. I simply want to say I

[37:32] grew up in that neighborhood, have gone

[37:35] to the church in that neighborhood for

[37:41] 50 years. That has been a single-family

[37:49] home residence. My feeling is bringing

[37:54] in duplexes is going to allow for

[37:55] something else, apartments and it will

[37:56] take away the home feeling in the

[37:59] neighborhood. As everyone has said,

[38:00] there are a lot of elderly people that

[38:02] I've known all my life. There are other

[38:10] neighborhoods in the city that want to

[38:13] keep that hometown feeling as McKinney

[38:15] says, you have that hometown feeling.

[38:18] In that neighborhood we want to keep

[38:23] that.

[38:24] >> Sheila Simmons

[38:29] >> She is in opposition

[38:30] >> Marco Nobles is...

[38:31] >> Is there anyone else that would like

[38:59] to speak?

[39:07] >> Seeing none. Move to close the

[39:08] public hearing

[39:09] >> Second

[39:13] >> All in favor?

[39:14] >> Please vote

[39:31] >> The public hearing is closed.

[39:38] Discussion?

[39:39] >> Kudos to the folks in the

[39:47] neighborhood. I don't think I've ever

[39:48] seen as organized a group of folks and

[39:52] never seen over 60 percent opposition.

[39:57] They have a neighborhood that's been

[40:00] that way for decades. A long time.

[40:07] [Indiscernible] in opposition to this

[40:13] >> I guess that goes the super

[40:16] majority. As a representative of that

[40:19] district, I want to say hats off to the

[40:24] community. I remember coming to my

[40:27] first city Council meeting and one of

[40:28] the most important things I wanted to

[40:30] do was make sure my community was

[40:33] engaged and understood the importance

[40:36] of local government and city Council

[40:37] meetings and if you look around and

[40:40] look out, I could not be more proud. To

[40:47] see this petition Council member

[40:48] Elliott and myself they do not have the

[40:49] super majority and there it goes so

[40:53] thank you

[40:54] >> Maybe that's why he did not show up

[40:57] >> Count me as three against it. I love

[41:02] the passion. I like to see that in the

[41:06] community. Thank you all for coming out

[41:07] and speaking on the item. To me, it

[41:11] does not look like it fits in your

[41:12] neighborhood so I'm against it

[41:20] >> Same thing. It's wonderful to see

[41:22] everybody come out. By the way, such a

[41:30] very thoughtful and respectful

[41:35] presentation of opposition. Which is

[41:46] always refreshing and accomplishes much

[41:47] more than disrespectful so thank you to

[41:48] all of you it was fantastic the way you

[41:49] came in and gave the facts and spoke

[41:50] passionately but respectfully and thank

[41:51] you. I know where I am on this.

[41:53] >> Kimberly I know you are out there.

[41:56] That's how you do a presentation. And

[41:58] this is how you put it together. We get

[42:03] to see these not as organized we've

[42:07] talked about before where we are

[42:08] watching a lot of things being built in

[42:11] our city placing them in spots they

[42:12] should not be placed and this is one of

[42:16] them. I've watch with these have done

[42:21] to communities and it destroys them so

[42:22] thank you for taking the time effort

[42:23] and passion to the Council because we

[42:24] will kill it

[42:25] >> I'd like to point out

[42:34] [Indiscernible] second go around

[42:35] because most all of them were here at

[42:36] the Planning and Zoning [Indiscernible]

[42:39] so thank you for your resilience and

[42:40] coming back

[42:44] >> I find it fascinating. I will not

[42:49] support this but we had something in my

[42:51] district that a lot of people came out.

[42:58] But this Council went ahead and shoved

[42:59] it down our throats and passed it. It's

[43:06] really interesting, I appreciate these

[43:10] people coming out and doing that but

[43:11] this Council plays both sides. The

[43:15] reasons they gave for not having and

[43:20] it's not even multifamily just a couple

[43:24] of duplexes are the same reasons people

[43:26] don't like multifamily in their areas

[43:32] or backyards. So many times, this

[43:34] Council ignores the pleas of those

[43:36] people so I find it fascinating we are

[43:39] all going to vote no on this one

[43:42] because of these good people. I want

[43:46] you to remember that the next time

[43:51] people come against other. Projects in

[43:52] their neighborhoods they might not be

[43:56] as organized but they still are sincere

[43:57] about wanting to keep their

[43:58] neighborhood what it's like when they

[44:04] bought it. That's my comment

[44:05] >> The staff found it just as

[44:10] fascinating when you voted down the car

[44:11] lots and then doubled back and

[44:13] [Indiscernible] so the same dynamic

[44:14] played when you go from one way to from

[44:19] one thing and turn around and vote

[44:20] another way for another thing so you

[44:21] can't have it both ways

[44:24] >> [Indiscernible]

[44:25] >> Same dynamic

[44:29] >> [Indiscernible] was a great one to

[44:30] vote down and whether you didn't

[44:32] [Indiscernible]

[44:37] >> Same dynamic. We do everything the

[44:40] councilman wants us to do and now we

[44:43] are doing it [Indiscernible] it's the

[44:46] same dynamic it's what you do every day

[44:48] >> I have a motion. I move to deny this

[44:56] >> Second

[45:00] >> Please cast your votes

[45:01] >> Motion passes

[45:02] >> 200048z2, act on a request to rezone

[45:26] subject property from plan center

[45:28] district to residential estates district

[45:32] 600 feet west of US Highway 75 and 200

[45:36] feet north of White Avenue

[45:37] >> This is a request to rezone the

[45:43] subject property from plan center to

[45:47] Red-1 residential estate

[45:52] District, it's a 3.8 acre tract staff

[45:53] has reviewed the request with the

[45:56] applicant while the property is

[45:57] currently zoned for commercial uses its

[46:03] location on the west side of a

[46:06] significant floodplain and has little

[46:07] to no access for commercial development.

[46:13] There is an existing home on the site

[46:14] and the rezoning will allow the

[46:15] property owner to rebuild and expand

[46:19] their existing home. We have reviewed

[46:20] the request and are in support of the

[46:24] request. The Planning and Zoning

[46:27] Commission heard the item and

[46:28] recommends approval and I'm happy to

[46:29] answer any questions

[46:30] >> Any questions for Jennifer?

[46:37] >> My understanding is the applicant is

[46:41] here

[46:42] >> Good evening. Cross engineering here

[46:50] representing the owner. Due to the

[46:54] limited access commercial use would be

[46:56] hard on the property so we request to

[46:57] keep it as a single-family use. He'd

[47:01] like to construct his home on the

[47:02] property and I'm here to answer any

[47:04] questions

[47:05] >> There has been a home there for a

[47:06] long time

[47:08] >> Are there any questions?

[47:13] >> This is a public hearing, would

[47:15] anyone like to speak?

[47:16] >> Would anyone like to speak?

[47:17] >> Move to close the public hearing and

[47:32] approve the item as presented

[47:33] >> Second

[47:35] >> Please cast your votes

[47:36] >> Motion passes

[47:37] >> 20002 SUP three, specific use permit

[48:03] request to allow for an indoor gun

[48:04] range located northeast corner of

[48:05] Industrial Boulevard and Millwood Road

[48:06] >> The applicant is requesting a

[48:11] specific use permit to allow for an

[48:12] indoor gun range on the subject

[48:15] property. It is on the north side of

[48:18] industrial, there are two relatively

[48:21] new spec industrial buildings on the

[48:24] site currently. The applicant would

[48:27] like to propose to include an indoor

[48:34] gun range.. Staff was unable to support

[48:35] the request it was a tough one for us

[48:36] because the area is industrial in

[48:39] nature. But on the north side of the

[48:42] subject property there is a residential

[48:43] neighborhood that sits 65 feet away

[48:49] from the proposed range. At the time of

[48:50] the Planning and Zoning Commission the

[48:51] applicant requested the indoor gun

[48:56] range. At the meeting they did request

[48:57] the applicant tied sound mitigation as

[49:05] part of the Internet [Indiscernible] we

[49:06] are appreciative of the proposed

[49:07] standards they are including in the SUP

[49:12] which include double cinderblock wall

[49:13] with a minimum of four inches spray

[49:17] foam between the cinderblocks. A four

[49:18] inch concrete roof provided over the

[49:20] top and rubber burns at the end of each

[49:24] range. We are appreciative of the sound

[49:28] mitigations. Staff cannot confirm these

[49:33] mitigations will alleviate potential

[49:34] noise outside of the building which is

[49:36] our concern with being so close to

[49:40] residential properties. We do have

[49:41] performance standards to help mitigate

[49:43] potential noise above a certain decibel.

[49:51] As part of the research, staff and I

[49:52] visited Dick few indoor gun ranges and

[49:53] they did range quite a bit on which

[49:54] ones we could hear from on the outside

[49:56] and which ones we could not. That was

[50:00] the foundation for the recommendation

[50:04] of denial. The area itself is

[50:09] industrial so we understand the logic

[50:10] but with that proximity to residential

[50:11] we were uncomfortable recommending

[50:12] approval. Planning and Zoning did hear

[50:14] this and they recommended approval. And

[50:17] I'm happy to answer any questions I

[50:20] believe the applicant is here to speak

[50:21] >> Jennifer, were there any

[50:26] [Indiscernible] associated with

[50:29] [Indiscernible]

[50:30] >> I don't know what an STC rating is

[50:35] >> The sound coefficient

[50:41] [Indiscernible] tells you what decibel

[50:47] sound you can hear

[50:49] >> The applicant did do a great job of

[50:50] providing a variety of sound studies.

[50:53] None tied to the specific mitigation

[50:54] they are going to include. They did

[51:01] show us videos of sound studies done

[51:02] inside of a facility and on the roof of

[51:04] another facility that were within a

[51:08] comparable range but they were not tied

[51:09] to the mitigation they were proposing.

[51:12] I'm assuming the applicant is here. You

[51:16] will hear from him and he will talk

[51:18] about the mitigation they are

[51:20] proposing, where it is seen. I don't

[51:25] believe it is here in North Texas but

[51:26] you can talk more to that

[51:28] >> Are there any other questions for

[51:34] staff?

[51:35] >> Jennifer, what's on the north side

[51:41] of the building? What's outside of the

[51:45] actual building itself?

[51:46] >> The only thing is the required

[51:49] screening wall. Just the rear entry

[51:50] fire lane and the screening wall

[51:53] >> The floor plan shows there are five

[51:57] or six doors on the north side

[52:03] [Indiscernible]

[52:06] >> You will hear from the applicant the

[52:12] range themselves are going East and

[52:13] West so the berms they are proposing

[52:14] will be on those ends to collect the

[52:18] bullets and get them out of the

[52:23] facility. Any doors you see on the rear

[52:24] is just for entry access to the

[52:27] building.

[52:28] >> If the applicant could come up.

[52:29] >> Mr. Mayor and members of Council,

[52:42] thank you for allowing me time to

[52:46] speak. I'd also like to thank city

[52:47] staff for their time and effort they

[52:52] dedicated my application. Many years

[52:53] ago I was asked which lasts longer the

[52:56] first car the first girlfriend or your

[53:03] first 22? I laugh because I knew the

[53:07] answer but for me it was not a 22 but a

[53:08] 3030 my parents got me for my 18th

[53:11] birthday. Looking back I believe I

[53:14] sound like Ralphie in a Christmas story

[53:15] when asked what I wanted and I said mom

[53:18] I want a model 336 3030 lever action

[53:21] rifle. My father introduced me to

[53:22] shooting when I was eight. We would go

[53:25] to our family property in Little Elm

[53:29] and I would shoot his 22 rifle for as

[53:30] long as he would let me. He not only

[53:32] taught me how to shoot how to shoot

[53:37] responsibly. As a surgeon he had seen

[53:39] the damage the improper use of firearms

[53:42] cost. He taught me the consequences of

[53:46] not being responsible. Those lessons

[53:47] have stuck with me and I have passed

[53:48] them on to my children and anyone I

[53:53] teach. What my father did not know is

[53:56] he open the door to a sport I love and

[53:59] enjoy to this day. By the time my

[54:00] father sold the property I had spent

[54:02] many hours with friends shooting. I

[54:06] have lost count of how many people I

[54:10] talked to shoot and I'm proud to say

[54:11] one person became a firearms instructor

[54:14] for the Air Force. This doesn't sound

[54:17] unusual to you learn the friend was a

[54:18] five foot five inch 19-year-old female

[54:20] a rare accomplishment in the mid-80s. I

[54:26] told you my history because it mirrors

[54:27] how many Texans for so many years learn

[54:31] to shoot. Unfortunately, this way is

[54:32] slowly becoming a thing of the past

[54:34] because the open land we use to shoot

[54:36] is now home to the businesses. Our

[54:46] primary goal of opening the range of

[54:47] McKinney is to build a place for people

[54:48] to experience what I and so many others

[54:49] have loved for so long. Instead of

[54:51] being out in a field in 101 degree heat

[54:54] they will be in a modern

[54:58] air-conditioned facility. The range of

[54:59] McKinney consists of 18 indoor lanes a

[55:04] virtual training system two classrooms

[55:07] retail space a warehouse a catering

[55:12] kitchen and business offices. Our live

[55:16] fire range uses equipment designed for

[55:17] and used by military and law

[55:18] enforcement agencies around the world.

[55:26] The environment in the range area will

[55:27] be clean and comfortable with a system

[55:28] designed to purify the air of smoke and

[55:29] lead in seconds not minutes. In

[55:30] addition to live fire training, the

[55:32] range of McKinney will be the first

[55:38] private range in Texas to house the 300

[55:42] virtual immersive training system which

[55:44] is currently used by handful of

[55:45] military and law enforcement agencies

[55:48] around the world. This training system

[55:53] provides realistic fully immersive

[55:54] training which allows users to feel as

[55:55] if they are in the middle of the action.

[55:59] It prepares them for what may happen

[56:00] and also teaches how to de-escalate the

[56:03] situation. The system is like nothing

[56:07] you have experienced. I have seen

[56:11] seasoned professionals come out of the

[56:12] sessions sweating in disbelief of how

[56:15] realistic the experience was. Demand

[56:19] for the system will come from law

[56:20] enforcement agencies businesses school

[56:21] districts and individuals and bring

[56:22] people from all over Texas and the

[56:26] surrounding states to McKinney and

[56:27] these people will stay in local hotels

[56:35] are classrooms we use for courses

[56:36] taught by instructors and they will be

[56:37] available for private and group

[56:38] lessons. Since the start of the pandemic

[56:42] millions of people have taken

[56:43] advantage of their Second Amendment

[56:46] right to bear arms. The new gun owners

[56:47] will want to have a nice place to train

[56:49] and learn and in turn become better

[56:53] gun owners. Why should the gun owners be

[56:57] forced to go and spend money at ranges

[56:58] in other cities when they can stay here

[57:01] in McKinney. The retail and waiting

[57:03] areas are designed to be open and

[57:04] comfortable so clients can shop and

[57:07] relax. Our retail area will stock new

[57:09] and used firearms accessories and

[57:12] ammunition. My mother had a great head

[57:13] for business and taught me product

[57:16] selection brings in clients that

[57:17] customer service keeps them coming back

[57:20] so we will provide the best in customer

[57:26] service. [Indiscernible]

[57:27] >> You may already have what you need

[57:45] to be successful

[57:49] >> If you are saying asking me to stop,

[57:53] I'm happy to

[57:58] >> To be clear, we limit the public

[58:02] comments however the becomes a time

[58:11] [Indiscernible] I don't want to be

[58:12] disrespectful of your presentation

[58:13] >> I just wanted to make sure and

[58:14] introduce you to the product so you

[58:15] understand exactly what we want to do.

[58:19] What I did not get to and what I would

[58:22] like to say is the wall configuration

[58:25] in our building was used in Illinois.

[58:30] The sound requirements at this facility

[58:32] in Illinois were that they could not be

[58:36] heard because this facility is in a

[58:38] strip center. The adjacent businesses

[58:41] next to them in the strip center could

[58:48] not hear the gunfire. You could be

[58:50] outside the building and the only thing

[58:51] you hear is noise from the streets

[58:52] >> I don't know the exact value, the

[58:59] decibel level is around 68 to 72.

[59:05] >> Say that again

[59:06] >> [Indiscernible] is how much sound

[59:12] volume can be heard on the other side.

[59:23] >> I am not sure the sound engineers

[59:25] have not given that me that

[59:29] information. I know the videos I

[59:31] provided to staff were taken outside of

[59:38] the range in Chicago. You could not

[59:39] hear any gunfire

[59:40] >> And you have committed to that

[59:45] >> We are spending in excess of

[59:46] $500,000 to make sure it does not happen

[59:51] >> In the future, if I were you and I

[59:56] was presenting this again, the sound

[59:57] engineer could identify the STC

[59:58] assembly and you could say and that we

[1:00:03] would clear it up and we would not have

[1:00:07] this dialogue. Jennifer, you heard the

[1:00:11] video? And you agree you could not hear

[1:00:14] anything?

[1:00:15] >> [Speaker off mic]

[1:00:16] >> Mr. Houser, is there a way possible

[1:00:20] since this is an SUP to tie that CO to

[1:00:31] that sound barrier somehow to protect

[1:00:32] those residents?

[1:00:33] >> Come out and shoot a gun and stand

[1:00:36] outside to make sure the residents

[1:00:39] >> I think it would be better to tie it

[1:00:44] to the standards so you can technically

[1:00:48] measure it. No noise

[1:00:49] >> [Indiscernible] maybe Mr. Mayor

[1:00:59] could put it in the motion

[1:01:00] >> Are there any other questions for

[1:01:10] the applicant?

[1:01:11] >> This is a public hearing

[1:01:13] >> There are some comments. John Feltus

[1:01:28] >> Good evening. I've lived here almost

[1:01:34] 20 years. When I moved here there was a

[1:01:37] gun range on 380. I'm a lifetime

[1:01:39] shooter but more than that I spent a

[1:01:43] year in Academy selling firearms

[1:01:47] full-time. I sold a lot of guns and one

[1:01:48] of the things I saw commonly is people

[1:01:51] that bought them did not know how to

[1:01:54] use them. They had nowhere to go. They

[1:01:58] were reluctant to step outside their

[1:02:02] comfort zone so they take them home and

[1:02:03] put them in the night stand and feel

[1:02:04] safe and don't have a clue what they

[1:02:06] are doing. They need a place here where

[1:02:08] they can learn these things, where they

[1:02:11] can do it properly and safely and not

[1:02:16] shoot your kids because they are

[1:02:17] playing in the street because they are

[1:02:19] scared. I would ask you to please and

[1:02:24] I'm not trying to overrule Jennifer by

[1:02:26] any means she's done her job well but

[1:02:27] we need a place here. Allen has one,

[1:02:33] Plano has several. We are the only town

[1:02:35] around that does not and you are losing

[1:02:36] money and revenue off of it and we are

[1:02:41] losing a good opportunity. Please vote

[1:02:42] in favor

[1:02:45] >> I'm not showing any other cards. Is

[1:02:51] there anybody here that would like to

[1:02:59] speak?

[1:03:00] >> I gave you a card but I'm not sure

[1:03:01] what happened

[1:03:02] >> My name is [Indiscernible]. I live

[1:03:11] at 3300 Brentwood. I am a lifelong gun

[1:03:16] enthusiast. I highly recommend

[1:03:17] everybody support their Second

[1:03:19] Amendment right to carry but more

[1:03:21] importantly if you are going to carry

[1:03:26] you need to practice. You need to take

[1:03:27] courses and learn what you are doing

[1:03:28] because the firearm is not a toy. We

[1:03:33] need places to go out and practice that

[1:03:38] skill because that's what it is a skill

[1:03:39] and you need to practice. If you don't

[1:03:42] practice you have no reason carrying a

[1:03:46] firearm. I say that as somebody who

[1:03:48] thinks everybody should. I have trained

[1:03:51] a number of my friends to use firearms.

[1:03:54] One of the biggest things I get to when

[1:03:57] I talk to people about how often do you

[1:04:01] go out and practice or hit the range. I

[1:04:05] don't because there's not one anywhere

[1:04:06] around I have to go too far. There is

[1:04:11] always excuses but number one is the

[1:04:15] proximity.. The closer you have a place

[1:04:17] the more likely you are going to be to

[1:04:25] go. If it's going to offer the training

[1:04:26] they claim they are going to offer, I

[1:04:30] would highly recommend you approve this

[1:04:35] because that is something I am myself

[1:04:36] as a McKinney resident will use. I will

[1:04:41] take my friends there. I will get other

[1:04:42] people to go there because that's what

[1:04:44] I do. Right now I get them to go to

[1:04:46] other places. Let's keep that here in

[1:04:52] McKinney. If we are going to have

[1:04:56] people here in McKinney carrying

[1:04:57] firearms we need to have places in

[1:04:58] McKinney for them to practice that

[1:05:01] skill. I respect the staff has done

[1:05:02] their work and decided against it but I

[1:05:07] believe it's incorrect and I believe we

[1:05:08] should have a place to hone our skills.

[1:05:12] >> Is there anybody else to speak to

[1:05:16] the item? I will entertain a motion to

[1:05:18] close the public hearing

[1:05:22] >> So moved, second

[1:05:23] >> Cast your votes

[1:05:24] >> Motion passes

[1:05:33] >> Discussion

[1:05:37] >> I think staff recommended denial for

[1:05:43] the right reason. They are concerned

[1:05:46] about the residential so they wanted to

[1:05:48] make sure that's what they were looking

[1:05:51] out for as this will be an SUP

[1:05:53] requirement that would potentially

[1:05:57] disrupt. I think we can require that

[1:06:02] they produce on the front side a

[1:06:05] construction the ratings of the walls

[1:06:08] they will build. That can easily be

[1:06:11] contrasted with the noise generated on

[1:06:17] the inside and it sounds like you are

[1:06:18] willing to do that already. So I know

[1:06:27] for me the only thing you did not say

[1:06:30] you said being outside of 101 degree

[1:06:33] whether it's also legal so I prefer a

[1:06:37] legal and safe place for anyone

[1:06:41] carrying a gun being able to practice

[1:06:43] here as long as we mitigate that

[1:06:46] concern staff has very rightfully

[1:06:50] expressed. Does anyone else have a

[1:06:54] comment?

[1:06:55] >> I'd like to say thank you for doing

[1:06:58] business in McKinney. We've needed this

[1:07:02] for a very long time and I appreciate

[1:07:03] you investing your time and money in

[1:07:04] McKinney and I hope you are very

[1:07:07] successful. I saw you present at

[1:07:08] Planning and Zoning and I'm pleased to

[1:07:12] see you here and I know you care about

[1:07:14] what you are doing and you are bringing

[1:07:15] a good quality product so thank you

[1:07:16] very much

[1:07:21] >> I look forward as long as it is tied

[1:07:22] to making sure those residents are

[1:07:25] represented aren't interrupted by the

[1:07:27] noise and making sure it's maintained

[1:07:31] throughout. I know we have good legal

[1:07:37] team that can tie that to the SUP. It

[1:07:43] has to be maintained so how those walls

[1:07:46] deteriorate with the sound somehow gets

[1:07:49] too loud, the SUP will be revoked.

[1:07:53] Maintain that sound quality

[1:07:55] >> I'm in favor

[1:07:56] >> I'd like to know when you will open

[1:08:03] >> I will be one of the first ones there

[1:08:09] >> [Indiscernible]

[1:08:13] >> I will ask for a motion. And to

[1:08:22] contain the language

[1:08:23] >> Move to approve with the stipulation

[1:08:24] on the sound

[1:08:25] >> Second

[1:08:31] >> Mark, you have enough to go on what

[1:08:34] we are looking for.

[1:08:35] >> Please vote

[1:08:40] >> Motion passes

[1:08:41] >> Congratulations

[1:08:42] >> 200006z2 rezone property from Local

[1:09:00] Commercial District to Planned

[1:09:01] Development District to modify the

[1:09:02] development standards to allow for

[1:09:03] multifamily uses

[1:09:04] >> Just here to introduce the item, the

[1:09:10] applicant requests the public hearing

[1:09:11] be continued until August 18

[1:09:12] >> I believe the purpose was for them

[1:09:19] to co-back to the residence and see if

[1:09:22] they can't get agreement from the

[1:09:26] residence to be in support

[1:09:27] >> That is correct

[1:09:28] >> That's their best chance

[1:09:37] >> I'm okay with it being tabled.

[1:09:44] Everybody else?

[1:09:45] >> Move to table the item

[1:09:47] >> We need a public hearing

[1:09:48] >> And continue the public hearing

[1:09:49] >> Second

[1:09:50] >> Motion passes

[1:10:21] >> 200626, act on a resolution

[1:10:22] authorizing the creation of an ad hoc

[1:10:23] Throckmorton statue advisory board to

[1:10:24] oversee staff and expert research

[1:10:25] related to the Throckmorton statue

[1:10:26] located on city-owned property

[1:10:27] >> Thank you, Assistant City Manager.

[1:10:31] This resolution formalizes the

[1:10:32] Throckmorton advisory board as

[1:10:33] presented at the Work Session. Happy to

[1:10:38] stand for any questions. And Mark Doty

[1:10:41] is available

[1:10:42] >> Are there questions for Kim?

[1:10:47] >> Is there a motion

[1:10:51] >> Some discussion

[1:10:55] >> We had discussion in Work Session.

[1:10:58] It's highly disappointing and

[1:11:01] discouraging to look at my Council

[1:11:09] peers who dismissed and as you can see,

[1:11:15] there's a better part of your community

[1:11:16] out here that feels dismissed

[1:11:20] disappointed and discouraged. We are

[1:11:24] asking you to not sit on your hands and

[1:11:25] not have an ad hoc committee, we are

[1:11:28] not going to sit by and be dismissed.

[1:11:36] You might look at me and see one person

[1:11:37] on the Council you don't agree with and

[1:11:38] you don't like and you could care less

[1:11:40] to have the conversation but you need

[1:11:41] to look out the window. Looked past me

[1:11:46] because I'm not me I'm representing the

[1:11:53] constituents in your community. I'm not

[1:11:55] talking about you I'm talking about me

[1:11:56] right now and those constituents out

[1:12:01] there. As quickly as you dismissed me

[1:12:04] earlier at Work Session, we are not

[1:12:06] going to be dismissed and be

[1:12:14] disrespected. So again, you can hear

[1:12:15] us, you can see as and these numbers

[1:12:20] will grow. The division is not being

[1:12:26] caused by the person calling out the

[1:12:30] problem. Bringing awareness to the

[1:12:33] problem.

[1:12:45] >> This is inappropriate and I need to

[1:12:46] ask you to step away from the dais

[1:12:51] >> The comments that were made that the

[1:12:58] group your constituents which are my

[1:13:00] constituents and everyone's

[1:13:03] constituents here, I don't subscribe to

[1:13:05] the thought that engaging the whole

[1:13:10] community is disrespecting anybody.

[1:13:13] Ignoring anybody. It's what we are

[1:13:14] required to do

[1:13:15] >>[ I'm speaking right now

[1:13:19] >> Multiple speakers]

[1:13:22] >> I was not done and speaking

[1:13:23] >> La'shadion

[1:13:24] >> No No No you don't get to cut me off

[1:13:28] in the middle of my comments

[1:13:35] >> Council member Shemwell

[1:13:36] >> You do not get to cut me off

[1:13:37] >> We will be back in five minutes

[1:13:47] >> Call a recess all you want but we

[1:13:48] will not be dismissed

[1:13:55] >>We are back and we will have this

[1:14:02] discussion respectfully and with that I

[1:14:03] make a motion to adjourn

[1:14:08] >> So moved, we are adjourned

[1:14:11] >> [The meeting has ended]

City Council Regular Meeting on 2020-07-21 6:00 PM

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