Agenda
[0:20]
Call to Order
[0:26]
Roll call
[1:24]
Adoption of the agenda
[3:57]
Acceptance of minutes
[4:29]
Referral of petitions, communications, and reports to the proper committees
[4:56]
Business, Housing & Zoning Committee
[8:41]
Appointment of Regulatory Services Department Director
[44:40]
Conditional Use Permit, Preliminary Plat, and Site Plan Review Appeal: Kristine Smith, on behalf of FG & C LLC, 3000 Minnehaha Ave, 3033 Snelling Ave
[44:40]
Rezoning and alley vacation: City of Minneapolis Property Services, 3000 Minnehaha Ave, 3033 Snelling Ave
[1:16:57]
Climate & Infrastructure Committee
[1:19:00]
Committee of the Whole
[1:20:32]
Grant application to U.S. Department of Justice for National Integrated Ballistic Information (NIBIN) Modernization Program
[1:58:44]
Enterprise & Labor Relations Committee
[2:00:58]
Public Health, Safety & Equity Committee
[2:02:48]
Appointment of Fire Chief
[2:39:18]
Commercial hood and exhaust cleaning program ordinance
[2:39:31]
Minneapolis Public Housing Authority (MPHA) accountability ordinance
[2:39:44]
Neighborhood Revitalization Program (NRP) Policy Board elections ordinance
[2:40:10]
Dress code posting requirement ordinance
[2:40:27]
Noise regulations ordinances
[2:40:53]
Event center license ordinance
[2:41:17]
Pet ownership restrictions ordinance
[2:42:12]
2026 Aquatennial honorary resolution
[2:42:48]
Contract with Skydio, Inc. for a drones-as-first-responder pilot program
[3:03:20]
Litigation matter of Assad Awaijane, et al. v. Bittell, et al.
Transcript
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» Good morning everyone. My
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name is elliot payne, the
[0:21]
president of minneapolis city
[0:22]
council. And at this time, I'm
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going to call this regular
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pleating -- regular meeting
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of the july city council to
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order.
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» Council member warren.
[0:33]
» Here.
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» Council member shaffer.
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» Present.
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» Council member wonsley is
[0:37]
absent. Council member chughtai
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is absent. Council member
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whiting.
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» Present.
[0:41]
» Council member chowdhury.
[0:42]
» Present.
[0:43]
» Council member stevenson is
[0:44]
absent. Council member
[0:46]
rainville.
[0:46]
» Present.
[0:47]
» Council member vetaw.
[0:48]
» Present.
[0:49]
» Council member palmisano.
[0:50]
» Present.
[0:51]
» Council member chavez.
[0:53]
» Present.
[0:53]
» Vice president osman. Is
[0:55]
absent. President payne.
[0:56]
» Present.
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» There are nine members
[0:58]
present.
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» Let the record reflect we
[1:01]
have a quorum. Before we begin
[1:03]
the meeting, let me remind all
[1:05]
the meeting is broadcast to
[1:07]
enable greater public
[1:08]
participation. The broadcast
[1:09]
includes a real time captioning
[1:11]
as a means to increase the
[1:13]
accessibility of our proceedings
[1:14]
to the community. Therefore all
[1:15]
speakers need to be mindful of
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the rate of our speech so our
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captioners can tribe all
[1:22]
comments for the broadcast. We
[1:24]
ask all to moderate the speed
[1:25]
and clarity of t their
[1:28]
comments. The agenda for
[1:29]
today's meeting is before us.
[1:30]
and before I ask for a motion to
[1:32]
adopt the agenda, I have one
[1:37]
additional -- one addition. As
[1:38]
you know, last meeting, there
[1:40]
was a vote on the program that
[1:44]
resulted in a tie. That did not
[1:49]
dispose of the item. You'll
[1:50]
note on the public agenda that
[1:53]
it's before us once again under
[1:57]
unfinished business. There was
[2:00]
a question about the previous
[2:02]
action that tied. We have since
[2:04]
identified the action. That's
[2:05]
presented in front of us. That
[2:09]
is the resolution asking a
[2:12]
national search for a community
[2:13]
safety commissioner. At that
[2:15]
may 21st meeting, that was
[2:17]
brought forward by council
[2:18]
member wonsley and also resulte
[2:20]
in a tie. However, that was not
[2:25]
brought forward to the next
[2:27]
meeting under unfinished
[2:29]
business. That was an omission
[2:31]
that resulted from a clerical
[2:33]
error. I'm recommending that
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the resolutions -- oh, the
[2:37]
resolution is in lims file 20
[2:43]
2026-00653 a printed copy in
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front of everybody on the dais.
[2:47]
since it resulted in a tie vote,
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and we weren't able to dispose
[2:51]
this item, it should have been
[2:53]
returned from council's next
[2:54]
regular meeting on june 11th.
[2:56]
since that didn't happen, I am
[2:58]
suggesting that we add that to
[3:01]
consideration for today's
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meeting under unfinished
[3:04]
business. So that we can do a
[3:06]
final disposition on that
[3:07]
action. I'm also going to
[3:09]
recommend, once we get to
[3:11]
unfinished business, that we to
[3:12]
a proper motion to dispose of
[3:14]
those. And maybe I'll seek the
[3:17]
clerk's advice whether we should
[3:19]
delete them or whatever the
[3:21]
appropriate motion is when we
[3:22]
get there. Any objection to the
[3:25]
plan?
[3:26]
seeing none. May I have a
[3:28]
motion to adopt the agenda,
[3:30]
including that addition.
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» So moved.
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» Is there a second.
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» Second.
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» The clerk will call the
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roll.
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» Council member warren.
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» Aye.
[3:42]
» Council member shaffer.
[3:43]
» Aye.
[3:43]
» Council member whiting.
[3:44]
» Aye.
[3:44]
» Council member chowdhury.
[3:46]
» Aye.
[3:46]
» Council member stevens.
[3:47]
» Aye.
[3:48]
» Council member rainville.
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» Aye.
[3:49]
» Council member vetaw.
[3:51]
» Aye.
[3:51]
» Council member palmisano.
[3:52]
» Aye.
[3:53]
» Council member chavez.
[3:54]
» Aye.
[3:54]
» President payne.
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» Aye.
[3:56]
» 10 ayes.
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» That carries and the agenda
[3:58]
is adopted as amended. The next
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item is acceptance of the
[4:01]
minutes from the regular meeting
[4:04]
july 16th. A motion to accept
[4:06]
the minutes.
[4:07]
» So moved.
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» Second.
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» The clerk will call the
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roll.
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» Warren.
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» Aye.
[4:11]
» Shaffer.
[4:12]
» Aye.
[4:13]
» Whiting.
[4:14]
» Aye.
[4:15]
» Chowdhury.
[4:16]
» Aye.
[4:16]
» Stevenson.
[4:17]
» Aye.
[4:18]
» Rainville.
[4:18]
» Aye.
[4:19]
» Vetaw.
[4:20]
» Aye.
[4:21]
» Palmisano.
[4:21]
» Aye.
[4:22]
» Chavez.
[4:23]
» Aye.
[4:23]
» President payne.
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» Aye.
[4:25]
» 10 ayes.
[4:26]
» That carries. The minutes
[4:31]
have been accepted. Final, the
[4:35]
proper committees. The motion,
[4:36]
please.
[4:37]
» So so moved.
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» Second.
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» Warren.
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» Aye.
[4:40]
» Shaffer.
[4:41]
» Aye.
[4:42]
» Whiting.
[4:43]
» Aye.
[4:44]
» Chowdhury.
[4:44]
» Aye.
[4:45]
» Stevenson.
[4:46]
» Aye.
[4:46]
» Rainville.
[4:47]
» Aye.
[4:48]
» Vetaw.
[4:49]
» Aye.
[4:50]
» Palmisano.
[4:50]
» Aye.
[4:51]
» Chavez.
[4:52]
» Aye.
[4:52]
» President payne.
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» Aye.
[4:53]
» 10 ayes.
[4:54]
» That carries. And the
[4:56]
matters have been referred. The
[4:58]
next order of business is the
[4:59]
presentation of reports from our
[5:00]
standing committees. Which are
[5:01]
taken in alphabetical order.
[5:03]
we'll begin with the report of
[5:05]
the business, housing, and
[5:09]
zoning committee. I'll call on
[5:11]
council member chowdhury as vice
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chair of the committee.
[5:13]
» Thank you. We're bringing
[5:16]
forward 20 items today. Item
[5:17]
number one approves the mayor's
[5:20]
nomination of enrique ha
[5:23]
velasquez to rector of
[5:24]
regulatory services. Two
[5:26]
approves a wine and strong beer
[5:27]
with general entertainment for
[5:30]
strange loop laboratory. Item
[5:34]
three approves an interim use
[5:36]
permit for people serving people
[5:39]
at 219 fourth street south.
[5:40]
item number four is an appeal
[5:46]
regarding the 300 minnehaha
[5:49]
avenue democracy center. This
[5:51]
item was sent forward without
[5:53]
rights. Item five is a rezoning
[5:56]
and alley vacation for the
[5:58]
democracy center at 300
[5:59]
minnehaha. This item was send
[6:02]
forward without recommendation.
[6:04]
item sixpproves five liquor
[6:06]
licenses. Seven approves 32
[6:08]
liquor license renewals. Eight
[6:10]
approves a gambling license.
[6:12]
nine grants business, license
[6:15]
operating conditions for
[6:17]
bloomington commercial kitchen.
[6:18]
10 amends the 2026 license fee
[6:21]
schedule for tow truck
[6:24]
service fees. 11 authorizes
[6:26]
contract amendment with macphail
[6:35]
center. 12 is state of
[6:36]
minnesota grants for employment
[6:38]
services. 1 authorizes dtap
[6:44]
funding recommendations. 14
[6:46]
accepts a bid for replacing
[6:49]
floor boxes at the convention
[6:51]
center. Item 15 delegates
[6:52]
authority to cped director for
[6:56]
the owner-occupied rehab
[6:59]
programs. 16 accepts an
[7:03]
authorized water efficiency
[7:04]
grant program from the
[7:06]
metropolitan council.
[7:09]
item 17 authorizes a contract
[7:11]
extinction for the green belt
[7:13]
development project. 18
[7:14]
approves a staff direction
[7:15]
related to rental properties.
[7:18]
19 authorizes pgram changes to
[7:20]
th affordable housing trust
[7:21]
fund orhe ahtf. Astly, item
[7:27]
20 authorizes program changes to
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the naturally occurring
[7:31]
affordable housing program.
[7:35]
with that, I'll move forward all
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items for approval except for
[7:41]
items four and five. And then
[7:43]
have a separate request vote on
[7:46]
item number 1. So that's one,
[7:48]
four, and five.
[7:51]
» Council member chowdhury has
[7:53]
moved approval of the biz report
[7:58]
minus items one, four, and five,
[8:03]
I'll recognize we've been joined
[8:05]
by council member chughtai and
[8:06]
stevenson. Is there any
[8:08]
questions or comments on the
[8:10]
remainder of the report? Seeing
[8:13]
none. I'll ask the clerk to
[8:14]
call the roll.
[8:17]
» Warren.
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» Aye.
[8:19]
» Shaffer.
[8:20]
» Aye.
[8:20]
» Chughtai.
[8:22]
» Aye.
[8:22]
» Whiting.
[8:23]
» Aye.
[8:24]
» Chowdhury.
[8:25]
» Aye.
[8:26]
» Stevenson.
[8:27]
» Aye.
[8:27]
» Rainville.
[8:28]
» Aye.
[8:29]
» Vetaw.
[8:30]
» A.
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» Palmisano.
[8:32]
» Aye.
[8:33]
» Chavez.
[8:34]
» Aye.
[8:35]
» President payne.
[8:36]
» Aye.
[8:36]
» There are 11 ayes.
[8:37]
» That carries. And we'll next
[8:43]
take up item number one, the
[8:45]
appointment of enrique velasquez
[8:48]
for director of regulatory
[8:50]
services. Is there any comment
[8:54]
or discussion on this item?
[9:00]
seeing none, I'll ask the clerk
[9:01]
to call the roll. Oh, council
[9:03]
member vetaw.
[9:03]
» Thank you. Thank you,
[9:05]
president payne. I really just
[9:08]
wanted to take a moment to
[9:11]
recognize director velasquez and
[9:14]
express my sincere appreciation
[9:15]
for your leadership to the city
[9:17]
of minneapolis. Thank you so
[9:18]
much, director. We spent friday
[9:21]
afternoon in ward four, and had
[9:23]
a great time walking around the
[9:25]
ward, looking at a lot of the
[9:28]
livability issueshat my
[9:30]
community faces every day.
[9:32]
you've always been amazing at
[9:36]
checkinghings out and
[9:40]
understanding, talking about,
[9:41]
and understanding where they are
[9:42]
and what they want. The city of
[9:45]
minneapolis to look like for
[9:46]
them and their families. So I
[9:48]
really do appreciate the time we
[9:50]
spent in ward four on friday.
[9:53]
you're one of the kindest, most
[9:55]
thoughtful leaders I have the
[9:57]
privilege of working with. You
[10:00]
ag genuinely love
[10:02]
minneapolis. And you know that
[10:04]
if you spend two seconds with
[10:06]
you. You care about every
[10:08]
single person in this city. And
[10:09]
the love is reflected in how you
[10:11]
serve every single day.
[10:13]
you care about the people that
[10:15]
you work with and that work
[10:18]
alongside you. You lead with
[10:20]
respect, compassion, and
[10:21]
understanding. And you
[10:23]
understand that strong
[10:24]
organizations are built by
[10:26]
investing in the people that
[10:28]
make them successful. That's
[10:29]
huge for a leader!
[10:31]
and I appreciate that about you.
[10:35]
I ran into somebody who works
[10:37]
in your department coming out of
[10:38]
the elevator, and I'm certain we
[10:41]
spent an hour talking about how
[10:42]
good it is to work with you, and
[10:46]
how you treat them as partner
[10:48]
in the time that you take to
[10:50]
build them up as an individual.
[10:52]
but, also, the ente vision for
[10:55]
their department and the city of
[10:57]
minneapolis. They see in you
[10:59]
the care and so that inspires
[11:01]
them to care. So thank you for
[11:04]
that, director.
[11:07]
what's always stood out to me is
[11:08]
your responsiveness. Ratwhethem
[11:12]
a council member, a concern from
[11:13]
a resident, or a challenge
[11:15]
facing the department. You're
[11:16]
someone whoistens, you follow
[11:19]
through, and you work tirelessly
[11:21]
to find solutions. You never
[11:22]
shy away from the difficult
[11:24]
conversations. Hey typically
[11:26]
are, when it comes to ward four.
[11:28]
thank you for being able to
[11:31]
actually make me comprise a lot!
[11:34]
friday you just had so many
[11:36]
ideas that I'm so glad that
[11:38]
after the drones didn't pass,
[11:40]
you had already started thinking
[11:42]
about what next steps are for
[11:45]
getting policy and implementing
[11:47]
some programs that can help.
[11:48]
so when challenges arise, you
[11:51]
seem to have good solutions.
[11:54]
and I love how you take
[11:56]
responsibility, tooing with for
[11:58]
too, for the decisions you
[12:00]
make. That's what goo leaders
[12:01]
do. You don't bless -- pass the
[12:05]
blame or avoid accountability.
[12:10]
director, you're a visionary.
[12:11]
and sometimes being a visionary
[12:13]
is hard. You consistently have
[12:15]
looked beyond the immediate
[12:17]
challenges to think about how we
[12:18]
can build a stronger, more
[12:20]
effective city for the future.
[12:21]
your leadership has helped move
[12:23]
forward minneapolis while
[12:24]
keeping our residents and
[12:25]
employees at the center of every
[12:28]
decision.
[12:29]
leadership is not just about
[12:30]
making the easy decisions. It's
[12:32]
about showing up every day with
[12:35]
integrity, humanity, and a
[12:36]
commitment to serving others.
[12:39]
you embody that, enrique. You
[12:41]
embody all those qualities.
[12:44]
minneapos is better because of
[12:45]
your leadership, and I'm
[12:47]
grateful for everything you've
[12:48]
done for this city, for this
[12:49]
department, and for the people
[12:50]
that call minneapolis home.
[12:52]
thank you. Thank you for your
[12:54]
service. Thank you for your
[12:55]
dedication, your parership,
[12:56]
and your unwavering commitment
[12:58]
to this city. Thank you.
[13:01]
» Council member stevenson.
[13:03]
» Thank you, mr. President.
[13:05]
thank you, director.
[13:07]
unfortunately I will not be able
[13:08]
to support your appointment
[13:09]
today. And I want to let you
[13:11]
know the reasons why. We got a
[13:15]
tter from our workers in your
[13:16]
office. We had a meeting and
[13:18]
discussed that. And I
[13:19]
appreciate you coming and
[13:21]
talking with me directly about
[13:23]
this. But the facts from the
[13:25]
letter are just really not
[13:32]
acceptable. Does this
[13:33]
individual effectively resolve
[13:34]
workplace issues? No. We
[13:39]
talked about this. You told me
[13:40]
that there are some disciplinary
[13:44]
issues happening I the partner.
[13:45]
I have no vision into that. I
[13:46]
have to take you at your word
[13:49]
and that that's what's
[13:50]
happening. And at the same
[13:51]
time, I don't think that our
[13:54]
emplees, our staff, are
[13:57]
vindictive people are making
[13:58]
things up. So I -- these two
[14:01]
truths have to be true at the
[14:02]
same time. And so I urge you to
[14:05]
do better by the staff. You
[14:09]
can. I very much appreciate our
[14:11]
conversations. And I appreciate
[14:13]
you as a person. And I know you
[14:15]
can do better. So I urge you to
[14:18]
please do that. We counted the
[14:19]
votes. We know you'll get
[14:21]
appointed. This is me saying
[14:24]
asking you to step up to a
[14:26]
higher level than I know you can
[14:28]
do. On top of that, we have
[14:33]
encampment recording ordinance.
[14:34]
it's not a suggestion. It's an
[14:36]
ordinance. It has to come every
[14:37]
quarter. And currently haven't
[14:39]
had one yet this year. We're in
[14:42]
july. This is not acceptable.
[14:45]
this is not a choice. Whether
[14:48]
it gets presented or not. So
[14:50]
I'm asking you to please level
[14:53]
up to the level that I know you
[14:54]
can do. When it comes to
[15:01]
management and meeting the
[15:01]
ornance on time, these are
[15:03]
vital things. These are not
[15:06]
preferential things. I will not
[15:08]
be supporting yo ur appointme
[15:09]
today. I'm asking we work
[15:11]
together on ways to improve our
[15:15]
relations. Our staff cannot
[15:16]
function without them. And
[15:18]
improve reporting on
[15:20]
encampments. It's an issue
[15:22]
deeply affecting our city.
[15:23]
which you know extremely well.
[15:27]
and for these reasons, I will
[15:29]
not be supporting your
[15:32]
appointment.
[15:33]
» I will note we've been joined
[15:34]
by vice president osman. And I
[15:37]
will recognize council member
[15:39]
rainville.
[15:39]
»
[15:40]
» Thank you. Director, you
[15:43]
have a very, very hard job. But
[15:45]
yet your professionalism shines
[15:47]
through all the time. I feel
[15:49]
your relations with your staff
[15:52]
are exrare and I will not be
[15:54]
second-guessing your management
[15:57]
desions. I really appreciate
[15:58]
the dignity that you bring to
[16:00]
the homeless encampment
[16:02]
situation. It's horrible.
[16:05]
there are people who are
[16:06]
addicted, we have sex
[16:07]
trafficking, crime, killings,
[16:09]
shootings, but yet your approach
[16:11]
to that, I'm very grateful for
[16:13]
your approach. Your appach is
[16:16]
dignified. So thank you so much
[16:18]
for servin the citizens of
[16:19]
minneapolis. I wl be voting
[16:21]
with you today. I will support
[16:22]
you. And, again, thank you so
[16:26]
much.
[16:26]
» Council member chowdhury.
[16:29]
» Thanks, president payne.
[16:33]
thank y, director, for your
[16:34]
service to the city of
[16:37]
minneapolis. We had a good
[16:39]
conversation in my office I
[16:42]
thought it was an important one.
[16:43]
we got to be very candid with
[16:45]
one another. It's no secret
[16:47]
that the job of the regulatory
[16:50]
services director is extremely
[16:53]
difficult. Tt's why I thank
[16:54]
you for your work. And for
[16:56]
deciding to step up to the plate
[16:58]
again. And come before this
[17:01]
body for a nomination process.
[17:04]
which it's no secret that's not
[17:06]
easy either. Ha. So I just
[17:09]
wanted to appreciate that. I
[17:12]
want to give you a lot of props
[17:18]
in your ability to listen. And,
[17:22]
also, your ability to see
[17:27]
through the hrt team and grow
[17:29]
it. And also kind of wrap your
[17:33]
arms around the work within the
[17:35]
regulatory services t
[17:37]
department. Be it inspections,
[17:38]
be it animal care and control,
[17:42]
be it doing constituent cases.
[17:45]
as council members reach out
[17:46]
with our job of serving the
[17:50]
450,000 plus residents across
[17:51]
the city of minneapolis. I
[17:55]
think you know that I'm struggl
[18:01]
ing in my decision and my
[18:03]
choice. Because nothing is
[18:04]
black and white. There's a lot
[18:06]
of nuance here. I appreciated
[18:10]
when you came to committee, you
[18:13]
shared that your charge was to
[18:15]
communicate transparently,
[18:17]
collaborate within the city with
[18:19]
external partners, and do the
[18:21]
right thing no matter what. And
[18:24]
I believe you will be the
[18:26]
relatory services director for
[18:27]
the nt foreseeable term. And
[18:31]
I only wish you the best in
[18:33]
achieving those goals to its
[18:37]
fullest extent. A support you
[18:39]
fully in order too that.
[18:43]
today, however, I'm wrestling
[18:45]
with some of the places where I
[18:47]
feel like the charge did fall a
[18:50]
little bit short. It's hard for
[18:51]
me to move ahead with an
[18:53]
affirmative vote. I'll share
[18:54]
you and I talked about this one.
[18:58]
it was the -- my office and I
[19:00]
had reached out about the
[19:04]
growing number of people who
[19:05]
were facing homelessness over on
[19:10]
cedar and 26th. The number of
[19:14]
phone calls I got from
[19:15]
constituents within my ward and
[19:16]
outside my ward that was just,
[19:19]
like, help. Like, things are
[19:21]
getting to a boiling point. And
[19:24]
working on the city council,
[19:26]
that's a familiar type of phone
[19:29]
call that gets your cortisol
[19:33]
levels going. You need to
[19:34]
connect with department heads
[19:35]
and trying to figure out what we
[19:37]
cano. And I reached out. And
[19:40]
then I felt deeply surprised by
[19:44]
not knowing what the plan was
[19:46]
movi forward. And seeing we
[19:49]
were going to do it this bust of
[19:52]
open-air drug markets in the
[19:53]
specific area. And I think that
[19:55]
was a point of communication and
[19:58]
place where we could have worked
[20:02]
together. I will share, like,
[20:04]
I've had to have a lot of hard
[20:06]
constituent conversations across
[20:07]
the board. Again, going back to
[20:09]
what's the right approach to
[20:12]
address homelessness and if the
[20:14]
city is going into a place where
[20:16]
we're criminalizing people far
[20:17]
too much and not seeing their
[20:19]
humanity. If we're going back
[20:20]
to the era of war on drugs. And
[20:23]
I believe in you and standing up
[20:26]
to do what's right. And I will
[20:28]
support you in doing that in the
[20:30]
future. I understand the seat
[20:32]
you sit in. I'll be there for
[20:34]
you in that regard. Umm, I
[20:38]
think the other place that we
[20:41]
also talked about where there's
[20:42]
an opportunity for growth is
[20:45]
just, like, the mixed reviews
[20:47]
within your department. And I
[20:50]
think, like, you're someo that
[20:52]
committed to me that's something
[20:54]
you absolutely step up to the
[20:55]
plate to do. And so I'm lacking
[20:57]
forward to doing that.
[20:59]
and then the last thing is, we
[21:01]
talked a lot about how the same
[21:03]
problems keep on coming up year
[21:05]
after year. And what do we want
[21:07]
to get done at the end of four
[21:09]
years. Right. We hear over and
[21:11]
over again, we need to bring
[21:12]
people inside. W need to
[21:14]
triage folks and get them to
[21:16]
housing. The navigation center
[21:17]
continues to pop up. The
[21:20]
question about tiny home
[21:21]
villages and safe outdoor
[21:23]
spaces, safe parking. Thinking
[21:24]
outside the box. Like, actually
[21:26]
getting to the root. The issues
[21:29]
with inspections. The way that
[21:31]
we can serve our constituents.
[21:33]
I think we can get there and I'm
[21:35]
willing to work with y to get
[21:37]
there. So I appreciate you
[21:39]
stepping up to the plate. I'm
[21:41]
not able to give you an
[21:43]
affirmative vote today. That's
[21:45]
not a reflection of my
[21:46]
willingness to work with you and
[21:48]
the growth I think we have
[21:50]
between the ward 12 office and
[21:55]
enrique ha velasquez,
[21:58]
director of regulatory services
[21:59]
and what we can door the
[22:01]
city.
[22:01]
» I'll note we've been joined
[22:04]
by mayor frey. You may have
[22:06]
seen council member palmisano
[22:07]
get in queue and bump out. She
[22:09]
was in queue for mayor frey.
[22:12]
I'll recognize mayor frye.
[22:13]
» Thank you for deviating from
[22:18]
the sequencing on your screen.
[22:20]
chair payne, vice chair osman,
[22:23]
members of the city council.
[22:24]
it's my pleasure to nominate
[22:29]
enrique for the director of
[22:30]
regulatory services. He's
[22:32]
someone that approaches his job
[22:36]
with such incredible compassion.
[22:38]
the issues that he is handling
[22:42]
are they neither lack complexity
[22:45]
nor do they lack difficulty. In
[22:48]
whether we're talking about
[22:49]
inspections, traffic
[22:53]
enforcement, or we're talking
[22:54]
about the very difficult issue
[22:57]
regarding encampments, open-air
[22:59]
drug markets, and homelessness.
[23:01]
these are issues that oftentimes
[23:03]
don't just touch one department.
[23:04]
they don't even touch one
[23:06]
jurisdiction. The vast majority
[23:08]
of social services lie with the
[23:11]
county enforcement lies both
[23:12]
with our city and even lies with
[23:14]
the state, at times. And so it
[23:16]
takes a lot of work together.
[23:19]
enrique is someone who is a
[23:21]
tried and true collaborator. He
[23:24]
has shown that time and again.
[23:26]
and if you look at the stats,
[23:28]
while we haven't solved these
[23:29]
issues, we have not. And there
[23:32]
is room for improvement. The
[23:35]
progress is unquestionable.
[23:38]
virtually every one of the data
[23:40]
signs shows that unsheltered
[23:42]
homelessness is dropping. In
[23:44]
some cases, substantially. The
[23:49]
statistics show that we're
[23:51]
housing more and more people
[23:53]
every single month. In many
[23:55]
cases, than we ever have before.
[23:58]
that's due to en enrique.
[24:00]
that's due to other departments
[24:01]
and due to other jurisdictions
[24:03]
throughout the state. It's due
[24:05]
to a partnership. And enrique
[24:08]
is nothing, if not a true
[24:10]
partner in this work. He's led
[24:13]
long-term effort to create
[24:15]
single consistent rental
[24:17]
licensing standard. He's worked
[24:21]
to insist that we were bringing
[24:27]
mpha into the licensing and
[24:28]
inspection program. That work
[24:30]
reflects his belief that
[24:31]
resident, regardless of age,
[24:33]
race, gender, ability deserves a
[24:35]
safe home. His leadership
[24:39]
expands way beyond housing.
[24:40]
under his direction, you may
[24:42]
know that animal care and
[24:43]
control has become a model
[24:46]
nationwide for compassionate
[24:47]
community-centered service. The
[24:49]
division has expanded access to
[24:50]
low and no-cost veterinary care,
[24:53]
strengthened partnerships. He's
[24:55]
also helped a whole lot with
[24:57]
public safety innovation.
[24:59]
through initiatives like traffic
[25:01]
safety camera pilot and civilian
[25:05]
crash investigative pilot. He's
[25:07]
embraced new ideas to make sure
[25:08]
we're delivering services more
[25:10]
efficiently. And more
[25:13]
responsibly.
[25:13]
he's also created something
[25:15]
called a true one regulatory
[25:16]
services team. Where people
[25:19]
work across divisions to solve
[25:21]
problems like they never have
[25:22]
before. He's strengthened
[25:25]
partnerships with ser city
[25:28]
departments, hennepin county,
[25:29]
and state agencies. We haven't
[25:31]
had that partnership in the
[25:32]
past. He's brought it. And
[25:34]
those who worked with him,
[25:35]
understand he's a thoughtful and
[25:37]
caring person. I have heard
[25:41]
from staff, indeed, who
[25:43]
adamantly disagree with the
[25:44]
letter that you got about the
[25:46]
work he's done. And how
[25:49]
committed they are to working
[25:50]
with him and for him.
[25:53]
unprompted. And so I am certain
[25:55]
that the experiences you've had
[25:58]
with him, if nothing else,
[26:01]
they're kind. He's diligent,
[26:03]
he's urgent in the work, and
[26:05]
he's willing to approach these
[26:07]
very difficult issues. When we
[26:08]
talk about homelessness and
[26:10]
unsheltered homelessness, I've
[26:12]
talked to mayors around the
[26:13]
country. The policies among
[26:16]
democratic mayors across the
[26:17]
country from san francisco to
[26:19]
new york city are virtually the
[26:22]
same. Every city does hard work
[26:26]
to put people in housing and
[26:28]
offer care and protection.
[26:31]
every city clears homeless
[26:33]
encampments. Every one. And so
[26:37]
this is not just a position from
[26:40]
enrique. This is my position.
[26:42]
this is a position of virtually
[26:44]
every single mayor out there.
[26:46]
you know, and I understand the
[26:49]
frustration. Because you all,
[26:50]
council members, you're hearing
[26:52]
directly from your constituents.
[26:53]
you're in deep touch with the
[26:55]
grassroots of your wards. And
[26:56]
thank you. Thank you for
[26:58]
providing the additional
[26:59]
urgency. Genuinely. I can tell
[27:02]
you it's felt. It's felt and
[27:03]
we're doing everything possible.
[27:05]
and I know that director ha
[27:07]
have a has questions is doing
[27:08]
that, as well. Thank you so
[27:09]
much for your time. Simply put,
[27:11]
he's a person who demonstrated
[27:13]
vision, experience, and a lot of
[27:15]
leadership. He has my full
[27:17]
support. Council members, thank
[27:18]
you so much for your time. I
[27:19]
ask for yours, as well. My
[27:22]
apologies I'm going to jump
[27:22]
here. I didn't expect you to
[27:24]
have zero resolutions before the
[27:26]
council meeting. And so we have
[27:28]
another meeting I'm
[27:29]
simultaneously at. Thank you so
[27:30]
much, council members.
[27:32]
» Council member warren.
[27:34]
» Thank you, council president
[27:38]
payne. I want to say thank you,
[27:42]
director velasquez for your
[27:44]
unwavering support in everything
[27:46]
that I have been embarking upon
[27:50]
in ward five. Specifically
[27:52]
around heritage park and your,
[27:57]
you know, --
[28:01]
[ comments off mic ]
[28:02]
we okay? Okay. Just your
[28:14]
solutions. Coming on tours and
[28:15]
showing up for all of the
[28:17]
meetings that we've been holding
[28:19]
there with community. I look
[28:29]
forward to the work we're doing
[28:30]
at the city and doing. I
[28:33]
appreciate you and want to say
[28:34]
thank you.
[28:34]
» Vice president osman.
[28:35]
» Thank you. I made my comment
[28:39]
on last biz meeting. But I want
[28:43]
to make one. Just kind of
[28:45]
mention one more time I fully
[28:47]
support you, enrique. I like
[28:49]
your leadership. And I say it
[28:51]
was unfair what we decided as a
[28:55]
city to, you know, give you the
[28:57]
homeless outreach team from the
[29:01]
health department to services
[29:02]
with less resources. Your team
[29:04]
has demonstrated very humane way
[29:07]
to reach to the folks that are
[29:08]
there. To really connect with
[29:10]
them. To, you know, make the
[29:15]
connection. And help as much as
[29:18]
they can to minimize homeless
[29:25]
folks out on the seet. And
[29:28]
give them the help they need. I
[29:31]
think this is one of the
[29:34]
challenge and issue in our city.
[29:37]
we need more resources,
[29:38]
speaking on the budget. We
[29:41]
cannot, you know, we're not the
[29:42]
county. But we have to play
[29:43]
thisole. Because these folks
[29:48]
are struggling with addiction
[29:50]
and thr drug dealers are,
[29:53]
you know, doing all kind of
[29:55]
horrible things to put these
[29:57]
people through these kind of
[30:00]
conditions. We are dealing with
[30:03]
under the bridge situation.
[30:04]
where people lost their lives.
[30:07]
there's overdoses, there's
[30:08]
traffic accidents. This is
[30:12]
other agencies, other government
[30:14]
need to involve more. You have
[30:18]
the -- coming to the community
[30:20]
meeting. Having that
[30:22]
conversation. Also, you know,
[30:25]
pling that city spokesperson
[30:27]
to go talk to the county, metro
[30:30]
transit, and others to address
[30:32]
this issue. I think what you
[30:36]
need is more resources to tackle
[30:40]
this issue. It means we're
[30:42]
going to help our residents that
[30:45]
are struggling and keep our
[30:47]
community, you know, less open
[30:52]
thr drug use. Less needles.
[30:58]
we need to put all the
[31:00]
resources, as much resources as
[31:02]
we can in this issue. You have
[31:05]
heard me many times talking
[31:06]
about this specific issue. St
[31:10]
that some neighbors are
[31:11]
struggling. Not every city is
[31:13]
dealing with, you know,
[31:16]
so-called open drug use. Right
[31:20]
now go ahead, you know, walk two
[31:23]
or six on franklin and see --
[31:25]
you'll see that. But those are
[31:28]
victims themselves. Those are
[31:30]
victs. They are being taken
[31:31]
advantage of. Being drugged.
[31:37]
and it's not acceptable for
[31:42]
society to have that kind of
[31:44]
addition for human beings. I
[31:48]
encourage you to continue doing
[31:49]
what uryo you're doing.
[31:53]
to reach out to colleagues, to
[31:55]
ask resources. And I'm hoping
[31:58]
that in other positions of
[31:59]
leadership, especially
[32:02]
leadership and mayor's
[32:03]
leadership could help you
[32:07]
address this unhoused shelters
[32:11]
in a humane way. In a
[32:13]
respectful way. I look forward
[32:20]
to working with you the next
[32:21]
four years.
[32:21]
» Council member chughtai.
[32:22]
» Thank you, mr. President.
[32:28]
I'm going to be supporting
[32:31]
mr. -- I'm sorry, director
[32:33]
velazquez's nomination today.
[32:36]
so that he will, hopefully,
[32:38]
continue serving over the course
[32:41]
the next four years. Over the
[32:42]
course of the term. As the
[32:44]
direct of the regulatory
[32:46]
rvices department. So I want
[32:48]
to join my colleagues in sharing
[32:50]
so flowers about the work in
[32:51]
the regulatory services
[32:52]
department that is going really
[32:55]
well.
[32:57]
in particular, I want to thank
[33:01]
the inspections team and you,
[33:06]
director, for your work with my
[33:08]
office. In best serving the
[33:10]
less de dent -- residents of
[33:13]
ward 10. As you know, we're the
[33:14]
second most renter-dense ward in
[33:16]
the city. Home to the some of
[33:21]
the city's larger concentration
[33:27]
of naturally occurring
[33:28]
affordable housing. And that
[33:31]
tenants across our city live in
[33:34]
conditions that we would
[33:36]
describe as undignified and
[33:38]
inhumane. Inside of their
[33:39]
properties. Living in
[33:41]
conditions that we ourselves
[33:44]
would never choose for ourselvee
[33:50]
partnership and the urge side
[33:55]
urgency that matches my
[33:56]
office and the residents that
[33:58]
we're seeking to serve together
[34:01]
is deeply appreciated it is
[34:05]
transformative I the work we're
[34:07]
able to do to ensure that
[34:11]
dignity of the people of our
[34:14]
city. I really appreciate that
[34:17]
partnership.
[34:20]
my big concern about some of the
[34:21]
work that's moving in the
[34:22]
department and I've had the
[34:23]
opportunity to share this with
[34:25]
you, and I believe that we're
[34:28]
going to continue to partner
[34:32]
through difference and find the
[34:35]
best path forward that serves
[34:39]
the people of our city. That
[34:43]
gets to better outcomes for some
[34:45]
of the most vulnerable people in
[34:46]
our city.
[34:49]
but the way -- the direction I
[34:51]
see our city moving now, as it
[34:54]
pertains to responding to
[34:57]
unsheltered homelessness breaks
[34:59]
my heart. If we believe that
[35:01]
every person is worthy of
[35:03]
dignity. If we really, really
[35:05]
truly believe that, if we truly
[35:09]
believe -- and I do and I know
[35:10]
you do, that substance use
[35:14]
disorder is a mental health
[35:17]
disorder, just like anxiety and
[35:19]
depression. If we believe that
[35:22]
no person in the richest country
[35:24]
in the history of the world
[35:27]
should live I worse conditions
[35:30]
than refe refugee camps,
[35:33]
in war-torn regions, if we
[35:34]
really, really believe that
[35:37]
every person is worthy of
[35:40]
dignity just because they're
[35:42]
alive. Just because they exist.
[35:46]
then the way we are approaching
[35:51]
homelessness is -- is
[35:53]
inconsistent with those beliefs.
[35:55]
it's inconsistent. If we
[35:57]
believe that human trafficking
[35:58]
is happening, and I know it is,
[35:59]
I know you know it is. Then the
[36:01]
waye're approaching this issue
[36:05]
is unconscionable. We're not
[36:06]
protecting anybody. Moving
[36:09]
people into the shadows, moving
[36:13]
vulnerable people into the
[36:16]
shadows does not ensure safety.
[36:19]
it does not house people. It
[36:22]
does not address substance use
[36:24]
disorder. It does not address
[36:26]
the core problems as to w
[36:27]
they're living outside in the
[36:28]
first place. I appreciate
[36:32]
knowing that every city, every
[36:35]
majority, every major
[36:36]
democratic mayor in the country
[36:38]
approaches homelessness the
[36:39]
same. And yet that approach
[36:46]
, because it's consistent across
[36:48]
the country, we know is one that
[36:50]
continues to fail.
[36:52]
criminalizing homelessness is a
[36:55]
failure everywhere we try it.
[36:59]
the only thing that helps house
[37:01]
people, the only thing that
[37:03]
contributes to a reduction in
[37:06]
homelessness isore housing, is
[37:09]
more services, is more upstream
[37:12]
solutions that prevent
[37:13]
homelessness in the first place.
[37:16]
criminalizing people does not
[37:19]
get us to a better solution! I
[37:22]
know you know that. And we see
[37:25]
that everywhere in the country.
[37:32]
so this war on homeless people
[37:34]
has to end. Because stripping
[37:39]
people of their dignity,
[37:42]
stripping people of their
[37:47]
humanity by saying, oh, they
[37:51]
just don't want help. It's
[37:55]
unconscionable. And it's not
[37:58]
working. And we have to do
[38:01]
better. Thank you.
[38:04]
» Council member palmisano.
[38:06]
» Thank you, mr. President.
[38:09]
I'd like to echo what my
[38:11]
coeague council member vetaw
[38:12]
said. And I cannot say it
[38:13]
better than that. I won't try
[38:15]
and restate what she said. As a
[38:18]
leader and a person, we couldn't
[38:20]
ask for anything more than the
[38:23]
consideration, the thoughtful
[38:25]
approach, the intelligence
[38:27]
paired with the compassion. And
[38:29]
oh, by the way, the lived
[38:30]
experiences of enrique have a
[38:33]
velazquez. You have a hard
[38:35]
job. It's such a necessary and
[38:38]
important one to keep our city
[38:40]
functioning. And your employees
[38:41]
are on the very front lines of
[38:43]
this work. I see you support
[38:46]
them, help them to handle tough
[38:49]
situations, and days they're all
[38:52]
tough situations. Director web
[38:53]
you , you knew this
[38:57]
already but you have my support.
[39:01]
.
[39:01]
» >>: I'm adding myself to
[39:03]
queue. I will be supporting you
[39:06]
today. I want to uplift some of
[39:07]
the sentiments of my colleagues.
[39:09]
it was good to be able to speak
[39:11]
with you one-on-one about the
[39:15]
asfme letter that gave more
[39:17]
nuance to the letter. I agree
[39:19]
with council member stevenson.
[39:22]
that's something to work on.
[39:23]
one of the bigger topics I have
[39:24]
in the role of how do we create
[39:27]
a culture of accountability. So
[39:28]
much of that conversation is
[39:29]
centered on the police
[39:30]
department. Everybody knows the
[39:31]
challenges in the police
[39:32]
department and accountability.
[39:33]
but that doesn't only exist in
[39:35]
our police department. They're
[39:37]
the ones with the guns. Right.
[39:38]
and so as wthink about
[39:41]
accountability and discipline
[39:43]
and seven tests of jt cause
[39:45]
and making sure we're consistent
[39:46]
in how we're delivering that.
[39:49]
that's true in the police
[39:50]
department as it is in every
[39:51]
other department. And we should
[39:54]
be partnering to make sure that
[39:55]
we have a strong and accountable
[39:59]
accountability system throughout
[40:00]
the entirenterprise.
[40:01]
especially in regulatory
[40:02]
services. You're in the
[40:03]
community, in a way, on the
[40:05]
frontlines. Similar to mpd.
[40:08]
just without the guns. There
[40:10]
are consequences to your body of
[40:11]
work, as well. Especially as we
[40:13]
think about the living
[40:14]
conditions. Whether they're in
[40:16]
an apartment that doesn't have
[40:17]
heat or water. Or whether
[40:20]
they're unsheltered neighbors.
[40:22]
that's the other piece, too.
[40:24]
I'm actually going to give up
[40:26]
words of the mayor. This is a
[40:28]
bigger problem than one
[40:30]
department. And I don't think
[40:31]
the city is being successful at
[40:34]
addressing this. I'm not going
[40:36]
to be able to say it better than
[40:38]
council member chughtai. She's
[40:40]
expressed my sentiments
[40:42]
perfectly. We're failing this
[40:43]
community. Profoundly. I don't
[40:47]
see that as your personal
[40:48]
failure. I see it as our
[40:51]
institutional failure. And why
[40:54]
the regulatory services
[40:56]
department has been appointed
[40:58]
the lead for something that is
[41:00]
as challenging and complex as
[41:03]
unsheltered homelessness, with
[41:05]
the intersectionality of mental
[41:06]
health disorders, the
[41:07]
intersectionality of substance
[41:09]
use disorders, the
[41:12]
intersectionality of unequal
[41:15]
society that, you know, has
[41:16]
wealth inequality never seen in
[41:18]
the history of humanity. We're
[41:21]
the wealthiest nation that has
[41:23]
existed in the history of
[41:25]
humanity and we have the big
[41:31]
biggest. Why is that a
[41:32]
regulatory services challenge to
[41:33]
solve? That's completely insane
[41:36]
to me. I think it's a failure
[41:37]
of this institution. And what I
[41:39]
would like to see beyond this
[41:41]
conversation in your appointment
[41:45]
is this something that should
[41:46]
live at a deputy coo level? So
[41:48]
that we can have that
[41:50]
cross-department collaboration.
[41:51]
should this live in the mayor's
[41:53]
office? Because this isn't
[41:56]
just, you know, there's debate
[41:57]
here. Was it a mistake to move
[41:58]
it from public health to
[42:03]
regulatory services. It's
[42:04]
bigger than the public health
[42:06]
department. Right. Maybe it
[42:08]
ought to live at a deputy mayor
[42:10]
level. As we see in other
[42:11]
jurisdictions. So that we have
[42:15]
that enterprise-wide approach.
[42:17]
what we're doing right now is
[42:18]
working. You have been set up
[42:20]
to fail in what we're doing.
[42:22]
I'm not going to use that as a
[42:24]
reason to vote against you. But
[42:25]
it is a reason to say that what
[42:28]
we have right now is
[42:30]
unacceptable. We need to change
[42:31]
that. So that is my sentiment
[42:33]
on that. And I'm hoping you'll
[42:35]
be a great governing partner in
[42:37]
figuring out the better path.
[42:39]
and I see council member sha
[42:45]
shaffer.
[42:45]
» I just want to state, again,
[42:47]
your work and your department
[42:49]
has been invaluable to ward
[42:52]
seven in these last few months.
[42:54]
we have tackled a lot of
[42:55]
resident issues within our ward.
[42:57]
that have been very
[42:59]
significant.
[43:00]
and I just want to public ly I
[43:04]
wili will you're making
[43:08]
a difference. I am thrilled to
[43:10]
work with you and will be
[43:12]
continually supporting you in
[43:13]
the years ahead and hope our
[43:14]
partnership will continue to
[43:15]
grow even closer. I can tell
[43:17]
you, your work in the last six
[43:19]
months has had and will continue
[43:21]
to have really great impact in
[43:23]
the next few weeks. You know.
[43:26]
as we head into some of these
[43:28]
things. And I want to tell you
[43:30]
loud and clear that, umm, you
[43:32]
have been really a key partner
[43:34]
and have been very effective in
[43:36]
trying to strategize around
[43:38]
issues my residents have been
[43:39]
having.
[43:40]
so thank you. And I look
[43:41]
forward to the next few years.
[43:46]
» Seeing no one else left in
[43:47]
queue, il ask the clerk to
[43:48]
call theoll.
[43:50]
» Counc member warren.
[43:51]
» Aye.
[43:52]
» Council member shaffer.
[43:53]
» Aye.
[43:53]
» Council member chughtai.
[43:54]
» Aye.
[43:55]
» Council member whiting.
[43:56]
» Aye.
[43:57]
» Council member chowdhury.
[43:58]
» Nay.
[43:59]
» Council member stevenson.
[44:00]
» No.
[44:00]
» Council member rainville.
[44:01]
» Aye.
[44:02]
» Council member vetaw.
[44:03]
» Aye.
[44:04]
» Council member palmisano
[44:05]
» Aye.
[44:06]
» Council member chavez.
[44:07]
» No.
[44:08]
» Vice president osman.
[44:09]
» Aye.
[44:09]
» President payne.
[44:10]
» Aye.
[44:11]
» There are nine ayes and three
[44:13]
nays.
[44:13]
» That carries. Next we'll
[44:18]
take up -- before we take up
[44:19]
item fowrp, I want to recognize
[44:21]
vice president osman to share
[44:24]
how he would like to vote on the
[44:26]
consent agenda.
[44:27]
» Oh. Thank you. Clerk. The
[44:31]
consent agenda all aye except no
[44:35]
for nine, please. Thank you.
[44:43]
» Next we'll take up item
[44:46]
number four. Council member
[44:48]
chowdhury, should we take four
[44:49]
and five together or as separate
[44:53]
items?
[44:53]
» We can takehem together.
[44:58]
if the body wants to split it
[45:00]
down the line, that's all right,
[45:01]
too.
[45:01]
» Okay. I will recognize
[45:03]
council member chowdhury.
[45:07]
» Thank you so much, president
[45:09]
payne. And I just want to start
[45:14]
off looking at the item. This
[45:16]
is the conditional use permit
[45:20]
preliminary plat site plan
[45:22]
appeal. And, first, I want to
[45:25]
start off by ging a bighank
[45:31]
you to the folks at the hook and
[45:33]
ladder. And in downtown
[45:35]
longfellow. The businesses and
[45:36]
the community members in the
[45:38]
area that have reached out to my
[45:40]
office. That have reached out
[45:42]
to council member chavez. He
[45:45]
represents the area in the ninth
[45:46]
ward. I say that all my
[45:49]
constituents are always over
[45:51]
there. And I'm always over
[45:52]
there. So it's a huge part of
[45:54]
our community! I want to thank
[45:57]
them not just for coming to
[45:59]
speak to these items, but, also,
[46:02]
the number of years they've put
[46:04]
into this city. The care
[46:07]
they've put into our community.
[46:10]
hook and ladder has consistently
[46:12]
been an inclusive place for all
[46:13]
people. And our lgbtqia
[46:17]
community, in our immigrant
[46:20]
community, in our community of
[46:24]
artis. It's become an
[46:26]
important hub. And I would s
[46:28]
the same for all of the other
[46:30]
businesses in the area, be it
[46:34]
moon palace books, the coliseum.
[46:39]
and I think it's been -- it's
[46:42]
been important to ground us in
[46:43]
the fact that you can't just
[46:45]
talk about 300 minnehaha and the
[46:48]
democracy center without talking
[46:50]
out the immense pain that came
[46:52]
from the murder of george floyd
[46:54]
at the hands of minneapolis
[46:57]
police officers and the vionce
[46:59]
of those officers on to
[47:01]
community members throughout our
[47:04]
city follong protests of that
[47:08]
police murder. And leading to
[47:09]
the uprising, leading to the
[47:11]
burning of the third precincts.
[47:14]
I'll never sanitize that
[47:15]
history. I think it's always
[47:17]
important to speak to it. And
[47:19]
the hook and ladder and the
[47:20]
businesses in the area have
[47:21]
deeply struggled over the years.
[47:25]
due to impact and just the
[47:28]
trauma. The trauma of a
[47:30]
community experiencing this.
[47:31]
and I also want to highlight
[47:33]
some pitives. The community
[47:34]
has been really coming together
[47:36]
in downtown longfellow to ce
[47:39]
back, to be strong, to be
[47:43]
vibrant, and create spaces and
[47:45]
places f people. It was
[47:46]
amazing during the world cup
[47:47]
this year! Seeing the area that
[47:53]
had a building that was burnt
[47:54]
down. It was a gassy field
[47:56]
turned into a pla where
[47:58]
community members can gather.
[47:59]
have a place to sit, watch the
[48:02]
world cup, and then visit the
[48:03]
businesses in the area. Soul of
[48:05]
the south side in the area. Nd
[48:06]
I say all this to say there have
[48:09]
been so many concerns about the
[48:12]
design of 3,000 minnehaha
[48:14]
democracy center. Especially
[48:16]
the alley vacation. The site
[48:19]
plan. And concerns it's going
[48:21]
to further be a negative impact.
[48:23]
and I just want to say to the
[48:25]
council members that are here
[48:27]
listening. When y have not
[48:28]
only one business reaching out
[48:29]
to you, but you have several
[48:33]
businesses, an entire corridor
[48:34]
reaching out to you, sharing
[48:35]
their concerns, and community
[48:38]
members that are your residents
[48:40]
saying we're worried about the
[48:41]
future of this area. And how
[48:43]
this project might impact it.
[48:44]
you can't take it light. And
[48:47]
that's why in committee council
[48:49]
member chavez and I tried to get
[48:51]
some extra time to work out some
[48:54]
more details to see what we can
[48:56]
do in regards to the planning
[48:59]
and, unfortunately, it was voted
[49:00]
down. And I want to the just
[49:03]
share to thoseho are tuning in
[49:06]
either here or listeni. It's
[49:08]
clear that the way that the
[49:10]
design is, is moving forward
[49:12]
that's just based off of where
[49:15]
the will this council body is.
[49:20]
I believe in the democracy
[49:22]
center. I believe it's a great
[49:24]
activation for the area. I
[49:25]
think the way that engagement
[49:26]
with you all and other local
[49:29]
businesses and community members
[49:30]
has not been great. I haven't
[49:33]
been quiet about that. I'm
[49:35]
disappointed we aren't able to
[49:36]
make more of a difference here
[49:39]
for you. Hour, I want to share
[49:43]
with the body and those
[49:44]
listening, I do have a motion
[49:46]
that does create a condition
[49:48]
that I think could provide some
[49:50]
more chance for us to bring some
[49:52]
things together. It's not
[49:54]
everything that the community
[49:56]
has asked for. But it is
[49:58]
something. I'll read it out to
[50:00]
my colleagues here.
[50:02]
with the denial of the appeal,
[50:05]
we're I'm moving to put a
[50:06]
condition that says that the
[50:08]
applicant, which is the city,
[50:09]
shall within one month of the
[50:11]
date of the certificate of
[50:13]
occupancy being issued consult
[50:15]
with the businesses in downtown
[50:17]
longfellow, and the business
[50:18]
district, and finalize and
[50:23]
implement a plan for public use
[50:24]
of the redeveloped surface
[50:25]
parking lots on the 3,000
[50:28]
minnehaha avenue and 3033
[50:31]
smelling avenue parcels,
[50:32]
including ada accessible parking
[50:35]
spaces, at a minimum during the
[50:37]
times when they're not being
[50:38]
used by a city occupant. This
[50:40]
puts in writing that there will
[50:42]
be a shared use agreement for
[50:49]
parking. There will be a
[50:51]
definitive and transparent time
[50:52]
in which it will b implemented.
[50:54]
it does also say that the
[50:57]
business district must be
[50:59]
consted in planning ts out.
[51:01]
creating a place for engagement
[51:03]
and for stakeholders to b
[51:04]
consulted. Because that's just
[51:06]
been an issue at the top. We're
[51:07]
just not bringing enough people
[51:09]
in the neiborhood together, as
[51:12]
we're making these choices and
[51:13]
decisions. We have to change
[51:15]
that moving forrd. And I hope
[51:17]
this condition isn't the only
[51:18]
place it's going to be. I'll
[51:19]
continue to advocate for that.
[51:21]
and, colleagues, I ask for your
[51:23]
support in this today.
[51:26]
» Council member chavez.
[51:28]
» Thank you, council president
[51:31]
payne. Ah, first, I want to
[51:34]
talk a little bit about the
[51:35]
democracy center. The voter
[51:38]
services center. It was a
[51:39]
project that I initially did not
[51:41]
support. I did not vote in
[51:42]
favor of it for a variety of
[51:46]
concerns that I had. Part of it
[51:48]
was my opinion that there still
[51:50]
isn't enough community space.
[51:51]
all though I'm excited for the
[51:53]
community space component. I
[51:54]
think that's a good community
[51:56]
asset. The component of
[52:00]
windowless, components of the
[52:01]
democracy center, the license
[52:02]
and voter service center,
[52:04]
whatever we want to call it.
[52:06]
and I had been expressing those
[52:07]
concerns for a very long time.
[52:09]
I do think that staff could hear
[52:12]
some of the concerns I had. And
[52:13]
they were able to address those
[52:16]
particular concerns. So I was
[52:18]
happy to see them make those
[52:20]
changes to the windowless stuff
[52:22]
that it was happening. I did
[52:23]
not want to have a location on
[52:26]
lake street that would not be
[52:28]
helpful to the community. And I
[52:30]
think they've been working hard
[52:31]
to address some of the concerns
[52:32]
I've had. I want to thank staff
[52:34]
for that component.
[52:36]
I really am looking forward to
[52:38]
the community component. Like I
[52:39]
said earlier, I think that's
[52:41]
something that will be a big
[52:42]
asset to the community that I
[52:44]
represent in the ninth ward.
[52:46]
and I also want to talk about
[52:47]
the history of 3,000 minnehaha.
[52:51]
I think as we take this vote
[52:52]
today, and as we hear from
[52:55]
neighbors and business owners in
[52:56]
the area, I think the last thing
[52:58]
that I want is a project in the
[53:01]
community that I represent that
[53:02]
is going to cause more
[53:04]
frustration, more opposition,
[53:06]
when it's a project that I hope
[53:07]
brings everybody together.
[53:10]
so I guess what my ask is, I
[53:13]
hope my colleagues will support
[53:14]
this motion. I think it's a
[53:16]
middle ground to address the
[53:17]
concerns that some of the folks
[53:18]
in the community are asking for.
[53:19]
and I want to be clear. It's
[53:22]
not going to make everybody
[53:23]
happy. It won't be. It won't
[53:25]
be everything everyone is asking
[53:26]
for. I think it tries to do
[53:28]
this approach of not stopping a
[53:32]
project that needs to happen to
[53:35]
activate the lake street
[53:36]
corridor but addressing some of
[53:37]
the concerns that even folks
[53:38]
that want it to happen. Are
[53:40]
showing the frustrations.
[53:42]
so I guess what I will ask my
[53:44]
colleagues is to please support
[53:45]
this motion. So then we can
[53:47]
approve the rest of the project.
[53:48]
thank you.
[53:50]
» Thank you. Council member
[53:53]
chavez, I am in queue here. So
[53:55]
my comment is the council
[53:57]
members -- there was a
[54:00]
background conversation thanks
[54:00]
to council member chowdhury's
[54:03]
leadership. Able to talk to the
[54:04]
staff and go through this
[54:09]
motion. And they have not shown
[54:14]
any, you know, resistance on
[54:16]
this. So I think this is
[54:19]
something that will show that we
[54:20]
are supporting the small
[54:22]
businesses. At the same time.
[54:23]
just making the community a lot,
[54:27]
you know, comfortable. The
[54:30]
community should be trusting us
[54:32]
and should be trusting the
[54:34]
government. And, you know, as a
[54:38]
council I think this language
[54:42]
makes it working. It makes the
[54:44]
relationship work better. Maybe
[54:55]
not having ada parking. I can't
[54:57]
imagine that. We enforce the
[54:59]
ada policy. We' the city.
[55:00]
but to put it in letter, let the
[55:03]
community know we're there to
[55:04]
work with you. We' supporting
[55:06]
the small businesses and we want
[55:07]
to make sure that we're good
[55:09]
neighbors and we are a great
[55:11]
community that is moving forward
[55:12]
and progressing. And I would
[55:15]
encourage the colleagues to work
[55:19]
with us. This has been a
[55:22]
collaboration from council
[55:23]
member chowdhury and my office.
[55:25]
and to speak to the staff about
[55:28]
this. Thank you..
[55:38]
thank you. Next in line is
[55:40]
council member palmisano.
[55:42]
» Thank you. Colleagues, two
[55:45]
things can be true here at the
[55:46]
same time. We can absolutely
[55:49]
support the downtown longfellow
[55:50]
business district and do
[55:52]
whatever we can to support their
[55:54]
success. Given the history of
[55:56]
3,000 minnehaha and its impact
[55:59]
on their livelihoods.
[56:01]
I give all that due deference to
[56:04]
the council members who
[56:05]
represent the community in this
[56:07]
vicinity.
[56:08]
and we can also build a
[56:10]
democracy center that meets our
[56:11]
needs of our city and brings an
[56:14]
incredibly valuable and
[56:15]
important asset to this area.
[56:17]
and that is something to
[56:19]
celebrate today.
[56:23]
we would, I need to point out,
[56:24]
we would never put a condition
[56:26]
like this on any other
[56:28]
applicant. It's only because
[56:31]
the applicant here is the city.
[56:33]
we would never do this to any
[56:34]
other applicant.
[56:37]
but these two things supporting
[56:39]
the downtown longfellow business
[56:41]
district and building a
[56:42]
democracy center are not
[56:45]
mutually exclusive. We're going
[56:46]
to do both of these things at
[56:47]
the same time today. Which is
[56:51]
good. We he this condition to
[56:54]
allow for shared use of the
[56:55]
public parking areas of the
[56:57]
democracy center that we will
[56:58]
figure out after it opens.
[57:01]
we have been good partners here.
[57:03]
listening to community concerns
[57:05]
and responding with
[57:06]
modifications to our plan. To
[57:08]
our own detriment. We've made
[57:10]
modifications to our plan. My
[57:13]
biggest worry is that any
[57:16]
further delay would have a
[57:18]
cumulative effect. It would
[57:19]
mean that the democracy center
[57:21]
wouldn't be ready for the next
[57:22]
presidential election. We need
[57:24]
to have full occupancy ahead of
[57:26]
that election in order to
[57:28]
accommodate things like early
[57:30]
voting, et. Cetera.
[57:32]
we are finally in a place to
[57:36]
meaningfully move this space
[57:38]
forward. From being a
[57:40]
fire-damaged building to
[57:41]
something that is important for
[57:42]
us and for the community. I
[57:45]
wanted to thank our architecture
[57:47]
group and all of the time
[57:48]
they've spent on this. And all
[57:51]
the time they've spent in
[57:52]
community working out issues for
[57:54]
this. It's been a long road.
[57:56]
there have been a lot of votes.
[57:59]
it's been delayed for even more
[58:02]
conversations of planning
[58:03]
commission. It's involved one
[58:04]
of the largest community
[58:06]
conversations about a building
[58:08]
in my time here. All over the
[58:14]
city. This building is not what
[58:17]
it was.
[58:18]
thank you to council member
[58:18]
chowdhury for developing this
[58:21]
plan. I see it as a comprise
[58:23]
that I can support.
[58:24]
» Council member whiting.
[58:25]
» Thank you, president payne.
[58:27]
and u I'm going to say
[58:29]
something. I think the entire
[58:30]
body unanimously agrees with. I
[58:32]
think minneapolis is the
[58:33]
greatest city in the world. We
[58:37]
have seen this site specifically
[58:39]
be used as a prop for ultra
[58:42]
conservative maga republicans
[58:44]
consistently. And I think this
[58:45]
is a version. I know I heard it
[58:47]
on the campaign trail as I've
[58:48]
heard it from many of my
[58:51]
residents that we have to ensure
[58:53]
that to be the greatest city in
[58:55]
the world, we are doing things
[58:57]
that meet that standard.
[58:59]
and I think a version of this
[59:01]
where we have seen this building
[59:05]
sit here as a burned out site of
[59:08]
one of the hardest moments in
[59:10]
history for our city. And I am
[59:13]
deeply grateful for my council
[59:15]
colleague to the left here of
[59:17]
figuring out an opportunity.
[59:20]
figuring out a comprise that
[59:21]
continues to move this project
[59:23]
forward. So we don't have to
[59:25]
continue to relive a version in
[59:28]
our city that doesn't represent
[59:30]
the best of what we can be.
[59:32]
thank you for figuring out an
[59:34]
opportunity and a comprise to
[59:35]
continue moving this forward.
[59:37]
and ensure that there isn't
[59:39]
anymore undue delays on this
[59:40]
project. Thank you.
[59:42]
» Council member chowdhury.
[59:44]
» Thank you, president payne.
[59:46]
I wanted to just get in queue
[59:50]
again to just add a little bit
[59:52]
more context t this process.
[59:57]
when this arrived at the
[59:58]
planning commission, it was
[1:00:01]
wholly unacceptable. Approach
[1:00:04]
by not just the hook and ladder,
[1:00:06]
but several of other businesses.
[1:00:07]
the business district they had
[1:00:08]
not been consulted with as I
[1:00:11]
came to the design of the
[1:00:16]
democracy center. And the
[1:00:18]
impacts on that. And not
[1:00:22]
consulted in that. Not brought
[1:00:24]
in enough. That was wholly
[1:00:25]
unacceptable. This is, after
[1:00:26]
l, the democracy center. It's
[1:00:30]
iric for us not to do the
[1:00:32]
engagement necessary that is
[1:00:33]
moving on this. We have to, in
[1:00:35]
this moment, take this vote,
[1:00:37]
make a recommitment as we embark
[1:00:39]
on the journey of building this
[1:00:40]
out. That we engage with the
[1:00:42]
community and the area. And if
[1:00:48]
we don't, it's just deeply
[1:00:49]
upsetting for me and you'll be
[1:00:51]
hearing from me. Everyone will
[1:00:53]
be hearing frome. And I want
[1:00:55]
your support in ensuring that we
[1:00:56]
don't have to do that moving
[1:00:58]
forward. That we can be
[1:01:00]
proactive here. And that delay
[1:01:01]
in the planning commission was
[1:01:03]
absolutely necessary to forge a
[1:01:05]
conversation that needed to
[1:01:06]
happen to move this along. It
[1:01:10]
just absolute I will not a place
[1:01:11]
where it needed to be. I think
[1:01:12]
the other thing to share here is
[1:01:19]
downwn longfellow, this area
[1:01:20]
has felt so, so overlooked. And
[1:01:23]
I've heard comments here and
[1:01:25]
there where people and folks are
[1:01:31]
like it's one business speaking
[1:01:32]
out. I want to clarify it's not
[1:01:37]
just one. Like, hook and ladder
[1:01:40]
is an anchor business for this
[1:01:41]
area. If something happens to
[1:01:43]
the hook, it impacts everyone.
[1:01:46]
if something happens to the
[1:01:47]
coliseum, it impacts everyone.
[1:01:52]
there's a whole business
[1:01:54]
dirict behind them. And there
[1:01:57]
is also a lot of work outside
[1:01:59]
this that we as a body need to
[1:02:00]
do. And I'm asking you to show
[1:02:03]
up for in supporting downtown
[1:02:04]
longfellow and bringing it to
[1:02:08]
vibrancy. The business group
[1:02:10]
there is called longfellow
[1:02:11]
rising for a reason. They want
[1:02:13]
to see a future here. That
[1:02:16]
supports every single community
[1:02:17]
member, whether they work, play,
[1:02:19]
or live in the area. To be
[1:02:21]
supported. And an area that is
[1:02:23]
deeply diverse and has a lot of
[1:02:25]
folks who are working people
[1:02:27]
we as the city need to start
[1:02:29]
having a new chapter and hoping
[1:02:30]
up this -- working on this
[1:02:31]
democracy center and also
[1:02:34]
supportingowntown longfellow
[1:02:35]
with the mnitude that we
[1:02:40]
support other business
[1:02:41]
districts. Personally from the
[1:02:43]
engagement we've done in the
[1:02:44]
area, we're not meeting the
[1:02:45]
moment in the city in terms of
[1:02:46]
the support we cano here. And
[1:02:48]
it goes back to the corner of
[1:02:51]
the burnt third precinct being
[1:02:54]
le year after year, barbed
[1:02:56]
wire left on. Like, it's not
[1:02:58]
okay. And people have not
[1:02:59]
forgotten that yet. And I agree
[1:03:01]
with my constituents. They
[1:03:04]
haven't been a reason yet.
[1:03:06]
there's repair that needs to be
[1:03:07]
done and the pro active work on
[1:03:09]
the democracy center and how we
[1:03:11]
support economic development and
[1:03:12]
vibrancy in this area is how we
[1:03:16]
do the repair work.
[1:03:18]
» Council member shaffer.
[1:03:19]
» Anyone from cped here that I
[1:03:22]
can ask some questions of? No.
[1:03:28]
I'd like to know, maybe,
[1:03:30]
council member chowdhury or
[1:03:31]
chavez you can step in answer
[1:03:33]
some of these. I'd like to
[1:03:34]
understand with this parking.
[1:03:35]
is this going to be installing
[1:03:37]
meters then that the businesses
[1:03:39]
would use in the evening? Can
[1:03:40]
you speak to the costs around --
[1:03:43]
or is it just going to be a free
[1:03:47]
parking?
[1:03:51]
» Yeah. T looks like we have
[1:03:55]
andrew here from planning.
[1:03:56]
maybe you want to speak to that.
[1:03:59]
it's my understanding there was
[1:04:00]
always an intention from the
[1:04:02]
city to have a shared use
[1:04:04]
agreement for public use on this
[1:04:07]
site. There hasn't been any
[1:04:09]
conversations around metering.
[1:04:16]
» Council member payne.
[1:04:18]
council member shaffer, andrew
[1:04:20]
with cped planning. I'm sorry.
[1:04:22]
can you repeat your question.
[1:04:24]
» I was wondering if there was
[1:04:25]
any plan as we look to the
[1:04:27]
transition and discussion you're
[1:04:28]
going to be having with the
[1:04:29]
community. If these were going
[1:04:31]
to be metered parking lots then
[1:04:33]
for evening use or if there was
[1:04:35]
going to be a cost associated
[1:04:37]
with these spaces to the
[1:04:39]
business district. Or those
[1:04:40]
that use the spots.
[1:04:41]
» Council member shaffer, that
[1:04:42]
would be entirely up to property
[1:04:45]
services. So property services
[1:04:47]
is the property owner and the
[1:04:48]
applicantere. So they would
[1:04:50]
need to work with the businesses
[1:04:53]
to come up with how the shared
[1:04:55]
use agreement is going to
[1:04:56]
function. That's not something
[1:04:57]
that would be regulated by
[1:04:59]
cped.
[1:04:59]
» Okay. Because I think most
[1:05:01]
of our parking in the -- and do
[1:05:04]
we have other agreements like
[1:05:05]
this where we allow
[1:05:07]
organizations to use our parking
[1:05:09]
lots that are not metered?
[1:05:12]
» Ah, council member shaffer, I
[1:05:14]
think that would have to be
[1:05:15]
directed to property services.
[1:05:16]
that's not something that cped
[1:05:19]
would regulate.
[1:05:19]
» I think it's an important
[1:05:21]
point in this discussion.
[1:05:23]
because, obviously, there's --
[1:05:25]
it's my understanding, you know,
[1:05:26]
that most of the city and our
[1:05:29]
city-owned land, we either have
[1:05:31]
city parking lots that are, you
[1:05:33]
know, serviced with payments.
[1:05:35]
or else our parking meters. And
[1:05:37]
so I'm just trying to get a
[1:05:39]
sense. Is this, umm, setting
[1:05:43]
precedent?
[1:05:44]
» Ah, council member shaffer,
[1:05:45]
from our perspective, this would
[1:05:47]
not be setting precedent for any
[1:05:49]
other type of future
[1:05:50]
application.
[1:05:51]
» Okay. That's helpful to
[1:05:54]
know.
[1:05:54]
umm, I just think that parking
[1:05:56]
on our streets and parking lots
[1:05:58]
throughout the city are an
[1:05:59]
important part of our revenue
[1:06:00]
stream. And for us to be
[1:06:03]
inconsistent in that feels a
[1:06:07]
little, umm, hard to swallow, I
[1:06:09]
think. You know, 31st and
[1:06:10]
lake. We lost all our parking.
[1:06:13]
uptown we lost a ton on
[1:06:14]
hennepin. There were no
[1:06:16]
concerns then. So I appreciate
[1:06:19]
the needs of parking. I really
[1:06:21]
do. I've talked about it. So I
[1:06:24]
appreciate the needs of the
[1:06:27]
longfellow district. And the
[1:06:29]
importance of the small
[1:06:30]
businesses to that.
[1:06:31]
but I do think there's a
[1:06:32]
question here around maint
[1:06:37]
maintenance, and, obviously, the
[1:06:37]
meters is how we maintain our
[1:06:39]
parking lots. The cost is how
[1:06:42]
we maintain some of our street
[1:06:43]
stuff. So that's my big
[1:06:46]
question here. Is, umm, maybe
[1:06:48]
you can give us some more
[1:06:50]
background on that. But, umm,
[1:06:56]
I'm not -- I'm -- I don't know
[1:06:57]
what the answers to that -- it
[1:06:58]
sounds like you don't know
[1:06:59]
whether you're going to meter
[1:07:00]
them or not.
[1:07:02]
» Thanks for raising those
[1:07:04]
concerns, council member
[1:07:05]
shaffer. That would be up to
[1:07:06]
property services as the
[1:07:08]
property owner to make those
[1:07:09]
decisions. And I know they're
[1:07:11]
listening here. And they should
[1:07:12]
be able to follow up with you at
[1:07:13]
a future date.
[1:07:14]
» Okay. Well, it's hard for me
[1:07:16]
to cast a vote without knowing
[1:07:18]
that. Does that make sense?
[1:07:19]
because I think that's kind of
[1:07:21]
an important part of the
[1:07:22]
equation, in some ways. Because
[1:07:23]
we do want to support our
[1:07:24]
businesses. I think this is a
[1:07:25]
valid request. But at the same
[1:07:27]
time, we have costs, umm, as
[1:07:30]
well. And we don't want to,
[1:07:34]
umm, be inconsistent as a city.
[1:07:36]
thank you.
[1:07:37]
» Thanks.
[1:07:37]
» Council member rainville.
[1:07:40]
» Thank you. I'll be brief. I
[1:07:43]
just want to give my
[1:07:45]
appreciation to council members
[1:07:46]
chowdhury and chavez for working
[1:07:48]
with the community on this
[1:07:50]
compri. And at the same time
[1:07:52]
keeping the long-term goals o
[1:07:54]
the city in mind. Equallyith
[1:07:57]
the local business community.
[1:07:59]
I'll be voting for this.
[1:08:02]
» Council member chavez.
[1:08:04]
» Thank you, council president
[1:08:05]
payne. I think for me, it's
[1:08:07]
this is a unique circumstance.
[1:08:10]
this is minnehaha area. It's an
[1:08:11]
area that was on fire.
[1:08:13]
buildings throughout lake street
[1:08:14]
in this area were set on fire.
[1:08:16]
this is a business area that was
[1:08:19]
devastated by the uprising in
[1:08:21]
the summer of 2020. After the
[1:08:23]
murder of george floyd that
[1:08:24]
caused a world-ride racial
[1:08:27]
reckoning. It's a unique
[1:08:28]
circumstance. It's an area that
[1:08:31]
has faced so much trauma. And I
[1:08:34]
think that's something I want to
[1:08:35]
recognize. And I will say that
[1:08:36]
there has been other initiatives
[1:08:38]
about free parking in uptown on
[1:08:40]
fridays. So this isn't a new
[1:08:42]
thing. Upton gets free parking
[1:08:45]
on fridays. I think there was
[1:08:47]
an announcement made this year
[1:08:48]
or something. But ha-ha. So I
[1:08:50]
would say it isn't just on the
[1:08:53]
lake street part that I
[1:08:54]
represent. There has been
[1:08:55]
precedent in the past.
[1:08:58]
» Council member stevenson.
[1:09:00]
» Thank you. Umm, I just
[1:09:04]
wanted to raise that cocil
[1:09:05]
member u shaffer, you brought up
[1:09:07]
some excellent points on parking
[1:09:09]
pocy, in general. And the
[1:09:12]
valuof our parking lots. And
[1:09:15]
the public space that we
[1:09:16]
dedicate to parking, in general.
[1:09:24]
we dedicate, literally,
[1:09:25]
hundreds of millions of dollars
[1:09:27]
of public land to parking. It
[1:09:28]
has a huge maintenance cost. I
[1:09:30]
would be interested in exploring
[1:09:36]
disukses discussions on
[1:09:40]
parking metering and revenue
[1:09:42]
across the entire city.
[1:09:43]
I want to mention the free
[1:09:44]
parking uptown. As muc as I
[1:09:47]
personally don't believe the
[1:09:49]
cityhould be providing as much
[1:09:51]
free parking a as it is, to
[1:09:53]
provide it in uptown and not
[1:09:54]
provide it in longfellow is a
[1:09:57]
little odd. So I will be
[1:09:59]
supporting this. But being
[1:10:03]
genuine, I would love to work
[1:10:04]
with you on parng policy to
[1:10:08]
recoup the immense costs that
[1:10:10]
we're putting out for parking
[1:10:11]
across the entire city.
[1:10:14]
» Council member chughtai.
[1:10:15]
» Thank you, mr. President.
[1:10:17]
ah, umm, my colleagues took the
[1:10:19]
words out of my mouth. But,
[1:10:22]
umm, you know, I want to start,
[1:10:23]
first start by talking about,
[1:10:28]
umm, the -- I've heard a
[1:10:30]
couple -- a few different times,
[1:10:31]
ah, over the discussion on this
[1:10:33]
item. Ah, that -- thathis is,
[1:10:36]
umm, this framing that this
[1:10:38]
piece of property is just like
[1:10:40]
any other city-owned piece of
[1:10:43]
property. And it's -- it's
[1:10:44]
really important. Because iknon
[1:10:48]
this, council members, umm, who
[1:10:51]
directly represent this area all
[1:10:54]
have a shared understanding,
[1:10:57]
umm, that -- that really has
[1:10:58]
been shaped by the impacted
[1:11:01]
community. Umm, that this is
[1:11:04]
not just any other piece of
[1:11:05]
property. And to treat it as
[1:11:06]
such is a mistake. And one that
[1:11:09]
just leads to more heart ache
[1:11:11]
forvery person involved in the
[1:11:13]
process.
[1:11:14]
so, umm, I think that we should
[1:11:16]
stay away from words like
[1:11:18]
"precedent" we should stay away
[1:11:19]
from words like "consistency"
[1:11:23]
because -- because this is --
[1:11:25]
this is a unique situation.
[1:11:29]
umm, second, I want to talk
[1:11:31]
about the parking fund. So,
[1:11:34]
umm, all revenue that is
[1:11:36]
generated by parking in the city
[1:11:38]
goes into the parking fund,
[1:11:40]
which is an enterprise fund here
[1:11:43]
at the city. He pking fund,
[1:11:47]
umm, took a hit. Just like any
[1:11:51]
other,mm, any other one here
[1:11:52]
at the city. When covid
[1:11:57]
happened, umm, a this is, umm,
[1:11:59]
the revenue that the city
[1:12:00]
collects from parking has
[1:12:04]
bounced back in a way that we
[1:12:08]
haven't seen other aspects. And
[1:12:11]
the health of the parking fund
[1:12:13]
is incredibly excellent revenue
[1:12:16]
generated there. It's able to
[1:12:19]
be usedn lawful ways in
[1:12:20]
accordance with state law and
[1:12:22]
other aspects of our cy. And
[1:12:25]
so I want to alleviate concerns
[1:12:28]
here about what this could
[1:12:30]
possibly do to the health of
[1:12:31]
parking revenue. I don't think
[1:12:32]
it's aoncern here. And tn
[1:12:35]
wanted to lift up that just this
[1:12:37]
year, in the mayor's annual
[1:12:39]
ate of the city address, he
[1:12:42]
nounced an itiative to bring
[1:12:46]
free parking to uptown. That's
[1:12:48]
a loss of revenue for the city.
[1:12:51]
if we can do that for uptown,
[1:12:53]
because we want the economic
[1:12:54]
vibrancy of uptn to be
[1:12:58]
prioritized and, u know, I can
[1:13:00]
disagree all day and night
[1:13:02]
about, umm, whether a free
[1:13:04]
parking pac space is going
[1:13:06]
to ctribute to economic
[1:13:08]
activity and development to the
[1:13:09]
area or not. Buthat's --
[1:13:11]
that's choice weid make. And
[1:13:13]
we chose to invest in uptown in
[1:13:15]
this way. And ask the person
[1:13:17]
that represents the vast
[1:13:19]
majority of the uown corrir,
[1:13:21]
I would find it to be incredibly
[1:13:25]
disingenuous for us to not
[1:13:28]
also -- for me to not also be a,
[1:13:31]
umm, an advocat for making sure
[1:13:33]
that the longfellow community is
[1:13:35]
getting its needs met. Given
[1:13:38]
all that's happening in the
[1:13:39]
corridor. So, umm, so want
[1:13:42]
to -- want to encourage all of
[1:13:44]
my colleagues to join me in --
[1:13:47]
in, umm, in supportinghis
[1:13:49]
comprisepath forward.
[1:13:51]
» Council member shaffer.
[1:13:53]
» Thank you. Yeah. Just a
[1:13:55]
couple of thoughts. And I'm
[1:13:58]
fully supportive of the
[1:13:59]
democracy center. I will be
[1:14:00]
supporting this amendment. But
[1:14:02]
I want to clarify a couple of
[1:14:03]
things that were said. The
[1:14:05]
uptown free parking is friday,
[1:14:08]
saturday nights. It's ending in
[1:14:09]
a few weeks. It's probably
[1:14:11]
the -- it's not all of uptown.
[1:14:14]
it's lagoon and lake street for
[1:14:16]
maybe a span of three to four
[1:14:18]
blocks on each side of hennepin.
[1:14:20]
so this is a targeted area.
[1:14:22]
for a short a of amount
[1:14:25]
of time for this summer. That's
[1:14:27]
a different situation. I am not
[1:14:29]
concerned about parking revenue
[1:14:31]
from the democracy center.
[1:14:36]
that's not, you know, going to
[1:14:40]
be impactful. What I am
[1:14:41]
concerned about, though, is the
[1:14:43]
idea that we have -- we are
[1:14:46]
consistent. That we have a
[1:14:48]
process that businesses and
[1:14:50]
investors in our city can know
[1:14:54]
that this council will not
[1:14:58]
willy-nilly change direction on
[1:14:59]
this for that, depending on a
[1:15:02]
variety of circumstances. That
[1:15:03]
if we have a parking policy
[1:15:05]
throughout our city, we should
[1:15:07]
follow that. And I was
[1:15:09]
encouraged to hear that this is
[1:15:11]
not an unusual use case. I
[1:15:13]
would like to see where the
[1:15:15]
other use cases are in the city.
[1:15:17]
from maybe that's a staff
[1:15:19]
follow up. But I would like to
[1:15:21]
grow in my own education of what
[1:15:23]
is our process for allowing this
[1:15:26]
kind of arrangement. Because it
[1:15:27]
should be a process. And it
[1:15:29]
should be predictable. So that
[1:15:30]
all of us can stand up here
[1:15:33]
immediately and not have to have
[1:15:34]
a discussion around asking
[1:15:35]
questions about parking. But we
[1:15:37]
know what is our process and
[1:15:39]
this is not unusual.
[1:15:41]
and so, yeah, I'll look forward
[1:15:43]
to having more information about
[1:15:44]
that. But it is extremely
[1:15:47]
important to have a consistent
[1:15:49]
process, in my mind. When we
[1:15:50]
make decisions. And so, umm,
[1:15:53]
I'm excited that this is going
[1:15:54]
to be moving forward. This is
[1:15:57]
long overdue. And I'm going to
[1:16:01]
be, you know, looking forward to
[1:16:03]
seeing this come to life.
[1:16:09]
» Seeing no one else left in
[1:16:11]
queue, and we have ims four
[1:16:16]
and five with the amended item
[1:16:19]
number four in front of us.
[1:16:22]
council member chowdhury, do you
[1:16:25]
think it would be appropriate to
[1:16:26]
take it up as a package.
[1:16:27]
» I do.
[1:16:29]
» Okay. And with that, the
[1:16:30]
clerk will call the roll.
[1:16:33]
» Council member warren.
[1:16:34]
» Aye.
[1:16:34]
» Council member shaffer.
[1:16:35]
» Aye.
[1:16:36]
» Council member chughtai.
[1:16:37]
» Aye.
[1:16:38]
» Council membe whiting.
[1:16:40]
» Aye.
[1:16:40]
» Council member chowdhury.
[1:16:41]
» Aye.
[1:16:42]
» Council member stevenson.
[1:16:43]
» Aye.
[1:16:44]
» Council member rainville.
[1:16:45]
» Aye.
[1:16:45]
» Council member vetaw.
[1:16:46]
» Aye.
[1:16:47]
» Council member palmisano.
[1:16:48]
» Aye.
[1:16:48]
» Council member chavez.
[1:16:49]
» Aye.
[1:16:50]
» Vice president osman
[1:16:50]
it
[1:16:51]
» Aye.
[1:16:51]
» President payne.
[1:16:52]
» Aye.
[1:16:52]
» There are 12 ayes.
[1:16:54]
» That carries. That completes
[1:17:00]
the business report. T next
[1:17:02]
is from the climate and
[1:17:03]
infrastructure committee,
[1:17:04]
presented by the council member
[1:17:06]
stevenson, the vice chair.
[1:17:07]
» Thank you, mr. President.
[1:17:08]
the climate and infrastructure
[1:17:13]
mmittee that is 13 items.
[1:17:14]
number one dinner du nord
[1:17:17]
commercial block event. Two
[1:17:19]
gabbana that ball games block
[1:17:21]
event permit. Three skyway
[1:17:23]
easeme from minneapolis park
[1:17:24]
and recreati board. Four
[1:17:25]
metro green line extension
[1:17:28]
subordate funding agreement.
[1:17:31]
five minneapolis street lighting
[1:17:32]
plan amendment. Six cedar lake
[1:17:37]
road bridge project overpass
[1:17:39]
agreement. Number seven
[1:17:40]
cooperative agreement with
[1:17:41]
hennepin county regional
[1:17:43]
railroad authority f the grand
[1:17:44]
avenue south bridge. Number
[1:17:49]
eight metropolitan council
[1:17:51]
municipal infiltration andinfloe
[1:17:57]
pipelining. Number ne bid for
[1:17:59]
2026-2027 public works tree
[1:18:00]
removal and disposal. Number
[1:18:04]
10, bid for the installation of
[1:18:06]
green stormwater infrastructure
[1:18:07]
for the west fulton neighborhood
[1:18:09]
improvement project. 11
[1:18:10]
columbia heights membrane plant
[1:18:13]
roof replacement. 12 contract
[1:18:18]
amendment with cs mccrossan
[1:18:24]
construction, inc. Number 13
[1:18:26]
bicycle advisory committee
[1:18:27]
appointments. I'll move
[1:18:28]
approval of the report.
[1:18:29]
» Council member stevenson has
[1:18:31]
moved approval of the
[1:18:32]
committee's report. Is there
[1:18:33]
any discussion? Seeing none.
[1:18:37]
I'll ask the clerk to call the
[1:18:40]
roll.
[1:18:40]
» Council member warren.
[1:18:41]
» Aye.
[1:18:42]
» Council member shaffer.
[1:18:44]
» Aye.
[1:18:44]
» Council member chughtai.
[1:18:45]
» Aye.
[1:18:45]
» Council member whiting.
[1:18:47]
» Aye.
[1:18:48]
» Chowdhury.
[1:18:48]
» Aye.
[1:18:48]
» Council member stevenson.
[1:18:50]
» Aye.
[1:18:50]
» Council member rainville.>> .
[1:18:51]
» Council member vetaw.
[1:18:52]
» Aye.
[1:18:52]
» Council member palmisano.
[1:18:54]
» Aye.
[1:18:54]
» Council member chavez.
[1:18:55]
» Aye.
[1:18:55]
» Vice president osman.
[1:18:56]
» Aye.
[1:18:57]
» President payne.
[1:18:58]
» Aye.
[1:18:58]
» There are 12 ayes.
[1:18:59]
» That carry and the report is
[1:19:01]
adopted. The next we'll have
[1:19:02]
the report from the committee of
[1:19:04]
the whole, given by the
[1:19:05]
committee's chair, council
[1:19:08]
member chowdhury.
[1:19:10]
» President payne, thank you.
[1:19:22]
the committee the whole will
[1:19:24]
be bringing forward three items
[1:19:26]
to today's meeting. Item one
[1:19:28]
approves the special law related
[1:19:30]
to food hall licenses. Two is a
[1:19:32]
grant application for national
[1:19:35]
integrate ballistics information
[1:19:37]
program from the u.s. Department
[1:19:38]
of justice. This item was sent
[1:19:41]
forward without recommendation.
[1:19:43]
and lastly item three approves a
[1:19:45]
staff direction that analyzes
[1:19:47]
information related to
[1:19:48]
legislative budgets. With that,
[1:19:50]
I'll move all items for approval
[1:19:52]
except for item two, which I'll
[1:19:54]
pull for discussion.
[1:19:57]
» Council member chowdhury has
[1:19:58]
moved approval of the committee
[1:19:59]
report pulling item two for
[1:20:03]
separate discussion. Any
[1:20:05]
discussion open the remainder of
[1:20:07]
the report? Seeing none, I'll
[1:20:08]
ask the clerk to call the roll
[1:20:12]
on the report minus item two.
[1:20:15]
» Warren.
[1:20:15]
» Aye.
[1:20:15]
» Shaffer.
[1:20:16]
» Aye.
[1:20:17]
» Chughtai.
[1:20:18]
» Aye.
[1:20:18]
» Whiting.
[1:20:19]
» Aye.
[1:20:20]
» Chowdhury.
[1:20:21]
» Aye.
[1:20:21]
» Stevenson.
[1:20:22]
» Aye.
[1:20:23]
» Rainville.
[1:20:24]
» Aye.
[1:20:24]
» Vetaw.
[1:20:25]
» Aye.
[1:20:26]
» Palmisano.
[1:20:27]
» Aye.
[1:20:27]
» Chavez.
[1:20:28]
» Aye.
[1:20:28]
» Vice president osman.
[1:20:29]
» Aye.
[1:20:29]
» President payne.
[1:20:30]
» Aye.
[1:20:31]
» There are 12 ayes.
[1:20:32]
» That carries. Next we'll
[1:20:35]
take up item number two and I'll
[1:20:38]
recognize council member
[1:20:39]
chavez.
[1:20:39]
» Thank you, council president
[1:20:42]
payne. Colleagues, I will not
[1:20:44]
be the supporting this grant
[1:20:48]
application today.
[1:20:48]
the memo sent to us by staff
[1:20:50]
states there are no alternative
[1:20:52]
funding sources to maintain the
[1:20:56]
access. I want to disagree with
[1:20:57]
the assessment. The city
[1:20:58]
council has already passed an
[1:21:00]
offduty work ordinance designed
[1:21:01]
to recoup fees, in general.
[1:21:03]
fees that could reduce the
[1:21:04]
burden on taxpayers. That
[1:21:06]
ordinance has not been
[1:21:08]
implemented. So before I can
[1:21:10]
even accept that we have no
[1:21:12]
choice here, I want to
[1:21:14]
understand why a
[1:21:16]
council-approved tool could
[1:21:17]
address the problems I terms of
[1:21:18]
recouping fees and addressing
[1:21:20]
the tax issues that we're
[1:21:21]
struggling with as a city, why
[1:21:22]
it's not being taken seriously
[1:21:24]
or even implemented.
[1:21:25]
we could have already been
[1:21:28]
recouping offduty fees, but the
[1:21:30]
refusal to implement the
[1:21:32]
ordinance means our residents
[1:21:34]
are s subsidizing side gigs
[1:21:38]
for the minneapolis police
[1:21:38]
department. Why was it not
[1:21:39]
included in the proposed budget
[1:21:41]
last year. If we were to lose
[1:21:42]
direct access to the network by
[1:21:45]
the end of 2026, due to the
[1:21:47]
system incompatibility, why was
[1:21:49]
it not a priority for the mpd
[1:21:51]
before the grant application.
[1:21:53]
why was it not included in the
[1:21:56]
proposed budget. Why has the
[1:21:57]
first time the council public
[1:21:59]
heard of this? What would be
[1:22:00]
the plan if the grant
[1:22:01]
application was not made
[1:22:01]
available to the city? I will
[1:22:04]
once again mention why I am
[1:22:06]
against this grant application.
[1:22:07]
and I want to be clear, it's not
[1:22:09]
just about words. The notice of
[1:22:12]
funding opportunity for the
[1:22:14]
fiscal year 2026 modernization
[1:22:16]
program explicitly states the
[1:22:18]
program statutory purpose and
[1:22:19]
program goals in terms of
[1:22:21]
investigating crimes committed
[1:22:25]
by, quote, illegal ail y
[1:22:28]
aliens
[1:22:29]
I don't consider the community
[1:22:31]
I'm proud to represent as
[1:22:33]
illegal ail aliens. Who
[1:22:38]
have committed crimes in
[1:22:39]
addition to being quote,
[1:22:41]
unlawfully present language I'll
[1:22:42]
continue to reject and call
[1:22:45]
dehumanizing and unacceptable.
[1:22:48]
the duty statute lists notice of
[1:22:50]
funding opportunity operates
[1:22:51]
under is a section which is
[1:22:53]
titled bridge immigration
[1:22:56]
related deficits nationwide
[1:22:58]
reimbursement fund. I believe,
[1:23:00]
as I said this week, we have a
[1:23:02]
duty to ensure when we're
[1:23:03]
applying for or accepting
[1:23:04]
federal funds, we don't use the
[1:23:07]
city's name, resources, or
[1:23:08]
partnerships to a funding frame
[1:23:10]
work that dehumanizes,
[1:23:12]
stigmatizes our immigrant
[1:23:13]
residents in minneapolis. And
[1:23:15]
that it does not make our
[1:23:16]
community members feel more
[1:23:18]
targeted.
[1:23:18]
the notice of funding
[1:23:20]
opportunity explicitly lists
[1:23:24]
immigration law enforcement --
[1:23:25]
around the funding priorities.
[1:23:26]
as I said last time, I do not
[1:23:28]
and will not accept the premise
[1:23:31]
implicit or explicit in this or
[1:23:35]
funding -- requiring, locating,
[1:23:37]
and app henting. I will
[1:23:39]
continue to don dem the hateful
[1:23:42]
and anti-immigrant rhetoric
[1:23:44]
included in this program. Most
[1:23:45]
importantly, I will be very
[1:23:46]
clear that I do not trust the
[1:23:48]
purpose of funding outlined by
[1:23:51]
the federal government. They
[1:23:52]
came to minneapolis saying they
[1:23:54]
were going to come after, quote,
[1:23:56]
criminals, but what they did was
[1:23:57]
come after mothers, fathers,
[1:24:00]
children going to school, and I
[1:24:03]
know that I've had to do over
[1:24:04]
the past few days, a lot of
[1:24:06]
education here on the dais and
[1:24:08]
education outside of the dais.
[1:24:09]
about why it is unacceptable to
[1:24:12]
call people aliens. Why it is
[1:24:14]
unacceptable to call people
[1:24:15]
illegal. Why it is unacceptable
[1:24:20]
to, umm, you know, that
[1:24:23]
considering people that are
[1:24:25]
immigrants criminals. Because
[1:24:26]
they're immigrants. That's just
[1:24:28]
wrong. Additionally, I'll
[1:24:30]
mention this part. You know,
[1:24:32]
according to the star tribune
[1:24:34]
reporting, the occupation of
[1:24:36]
minneapolis disp
[1:24:39]
disproportionately impacted the
[1:24:41]
latino community most. 90% of
[1:24:43]
those kidnapped by the federal
[1:24:44]
government in minnesota to march
[1:24:49]
10. I d't accept that. And I
[1:24:51]
don't accept the words in this.
[1:24:54]
I don't like the purpose of
[1:24:55]
funding stated in this. That
[1:24:57]
talks about immigration
[1:24:58]
enforcement. I think it's
[1:25:01]
wrong. There could have been
[1:25:02]
different ways to fund this
[1:25:03]
program. There could have been
[1:25:04]
conversations happening last
[1:25:05]
year about how we can fund this
[1:25:07]
program. And I just didn't
[1:25:09]
happen. At least with my
[1:25:10]
office. So I will not be voting
[1:25:13]
for this.
[1:25:13]
» Council member shaer.
[1:25:16]
» I definitely hear the concern
[1:25:19]
among the harmful language
[1:25:20]
st contained in the notice
[1:25:22]
for the $300,000 grant. No one
[1:25:25]
on this body wants to devalue,
[1:25:28]
dehumanize, or demonize anyone
[1:25:30]
because of their immigration
[1:25:32]
status. We are 13-0 on that.
[1:25:35]
the question before us is
[1:25:38]
whether apply for the grant
[1:25:39]
would make the city complicit in
[1:25:41]
the current federal
[1:25:44]
administration's anti-immigrant
[1:25:44]
rhetoric and policies. Or
[1:25:48]
violate our separation
[1:25:49]
ordinance. Our city attorneys
[1:25:51]
have answered that question
[1:25:54]
publicly, explicitly, and
[1:25:56]
clearly. It would not.
[1:25:59]
I appreciate my colleagues
[1:26:02]
asking the question. And I
[1:26:04]
appreciate our attorneys for
[1:26:07]
giving us a direct answer. Mpd
[1:26:09]
will use this grant solely to
[1:26:12]
investigate shootings that occur
[1:26:14]
in minneapolis. That matters.
[1:26:16]
because gun violence has become
[1:26:17]
so common in our city, I fear
[1:26:19]
we're becoming numb to it. My
[1:26:22]
question is, where is the same
[1:26:23]
concern. Same passion, same
[1:26:26]
urgency and outrage over the
[1:26:27]
unacceptable numbers of
[1:26:28]
shootings in our city? Two
[1:26:30]
weekends ago, two mass shootings
[1:26:33]
left more than a dozen people
[1:26:35]
injured, one person dead.
[1:26:37]
another unable to walk. Those
[1:26:39]
are shootings that make the
[1:26:41]
headlines. We rarely hear about
[1:26:43]
the others. Also, we all
[1:26:46]
received the report of a local
[1:26:48]
business being shot at in the
[1:26:50]
middle of the day about 10 days
[1:26:51]
ago around the same time as
[1:26:52]
these others. The restaurantowd
[1:26:57]
into his business for an
[1:26:59]
apparently no reason. And a
[1:27:01]
bullet missed one of his
[1:27:02]
employees by only a few feet.
[1:27:05]
imagine the horror and the
[1:27:07]
trauma that employee carries.
[1:27:09]
wondering what if I had been
[1:27:11]
standing over there instead of
[1:27:13]
right here. Imagine the burden
[1:27:16]
of the business owner wondering
[1:27:19]
if he should continue doing
[1:27:20]
business in our city because now
[1:27:21]
they have to ask their employees
[1:27:25]
to come to work when they no
[1:27:27]
longer feel safe. The shell
[1:27:30]
casings, we heard, left behind
[1:27:31]
are like finger points. It can
[1:27:33]
help mpd connect a gun to a
[1:27:36]
crime, connect related shootings
[1:27:38]
to one another, identify the
[1:27:39]
person responsible, and prevent
[1:27:40]
the person from doing it again.
[1:27:42]
mpd needs access to ninibin. We
[1:27:51]
can accept this grant without
[1:27:52]
comprising our values. Our
[1:27:55]
residents' safety is too
[1:27:56]
important to reject a useful
[1:27:58]
tool without compelling reason.
[1:28:00]
we have also heard from
[1:28:01]
commander brown that we would
[1:28:02]
lose access to the nibin service
[1:28:05]
at the end of the year without
[1:28:07]
the needed upgrade. We are also
[1:28:11]
facing the prospect of
[1:28:13]
unprecedented financial pain.
[1:28:16]
we have heard about the roughly
[1:28:20]
30 million plus shortfall ahead
[1:28:21]
of us. We'll face
[1:28:23]
extraordinarily difficult
[1:28:24]
choices in the coming months.
[1:28:27]
we cannot afford to turn up our
[1:28:29]
noses to $300,000 because we
[1:28:32]
dislike who occupies the white
[1:28:33]
house. Or who leads the
[1:28:34]
department of justice. This is
[1:28:39]
hard, but we need every
[1:28:40]
available resource that can make
[1:28:43]
minneapolis safer. Especially
[1:28:45]
when accepting it does not
[1:28:47]
require us to surrender our
[1:28:50]
values. Thank you.
[1:28:52]
» Council member vetaw.
[1:28:54]
» Thank you, president payne.
[1:28:56]
I just had quick question. I
[1:28:57]
don't know if commander brown
[1:28:59]
can answer the question. I
[1:29:02]
think council member chavez made
[1:29:04]
a great point about this not
[1:29:07]
being mpd's previous budget.
[1:29:09]
just wondering if you can speak
[1:29:10]
to that. Why wasn't it in the
[1:29:12]
budget.
[1:29:13]
» Commander brown.
[1:29:14]
thank you. Thank you,
[1:29:17]
president. Through the chair,
[1:29:19]
council member vetaw. So,
[1:29:21]
excuse me, sti haven't found
[1:29:23]
my voice yet. We do not know up
[1:29:26]
until this year that the federal
[1:29:27]
government who had bee funding
[1:29:29]
through mpd have their own --
[1:29:31]
have the nibin system they were
[1:29:33]
going to remove the funding. So
[1:29:35]
when we found out that was the
[1:29:37]
case, understanding that it was
[1:29:39]
fairly short notice and agencies
[1:29:42]
across the u.s. Because it's
[1:29:43]
not just minnesota, it's across
[1:29:44]
the u.s. Would have to start
[1:29:46]
funding it fully themselves.
[1:29:48]
that's when the doj provided
[1:29:49]
this grant. And the grant is
[1:29:50]
not for all agencies that have
[1:29:53]
nibin. This is for a selected
[1:29:55]
170 different agencies that have
[1:29:57]
the -- that are eligible to
[1:29:58]
apply for the noncompetitive
[1:30:01]
grant. So, we were -- the grant
[1:30:04]
became available at the 26th
[1:30:05]
of june, I believe. And so it's
[1:30:08]
fairly short notice for agencies
[1:30:10]
to do so. And that is why.
[1:30:12]
» Thank you. That's it.
[1:30:15]
» Council member chughtai.
[1:30:17]
» Thank you, mr. President. I
[1:30:25]
want to start with talking about
[1:30:28]
nibin access for the city. And
[1:30:32]
I asked some questions about
[1:30:34]
this during committee of the
[1:30:35]
whole earlier this week. But,
[1:30:40]
umm, the -- I've since then had
[1:30:41]
the opportunity to talk with
[1:30:42]
some folks. And I'm hearing --
[1:30:45]
I'm hearing that, you know,
[1:30:48]
perhaps the police department
[1:30:49]
or, umm, you know, some members
[1:30:52]
of the police department, as
[1:30:54]
they're having conversations
[1:30:56]
with, umm, business owners in my
[1:30:59]
ward that have been impacted by
[1:31:02]
recent gun violence. I hear
[1:31:06]
members of the police department
[1:31:10]
telling my -- those impacted
[1:31:12]
community members, my
[1:31:14]
constituents, that without the
[1:31:16]
passage of this item, the
[1:31:21]
violence, umm, they have
[1:31:23]
experienced will never be
[1:31:23]
solved. And I think that kind
[1:31:26]
of misinformation and
[1:31:28]
disinformation have an impact.
[1:31:29]
so it feels important to correct
[1:31:31]
the record up here. While I
[1:31:32]
have the opportunity. Because
[1:31:34]
this is my -- one of my few
[1:31:36]
opportunities to correct the
[1:31:40]
record. Against some, like,
[1:31:42]
some pretty significant
[1:31:45]
disinformation about the
[1:31:46]
importance of nibin access.
[1:31:49]
umm, as we -- as commander brown
[1:31:51]
spoke to us about from the dais
[1:31:59]
on tuesday, umm, if the city
[1:32:03]
isn't going to lose nibin access
[1:32:07]
by applying or not applying to
[1:32:09]
this grant. Applying or not
[1:32:13]
applying for the grant that is
[1:32:14]
no impact on the city's ability
[1:32:17]
to access this system. The city
[1:32:20]
can continue to do so by either
[1:32:23]
finding a different source of
[1:32:25]
money, and we'll get into that
[1:32:26]
in a second. To pay for this
[1:32:30]
modernization work that needs to
[1:32:32]
be done. Or several of the
[1:32:35]
partners that we work with on
[1:32:37]
forensics. Like the bureau of
[1:32:39]
criminal apprehension, have
[1:32:42]
nibin access themselves. We can
[1:32:44]
continue to us utilize the
[1:32:49]
resource without having to
[1:32:52]
accept money from the federal
[1:32:54]
government, from this particular
[1:32:57]
grant. I'll also note the city
[1:33:01]
could find a different source of
[1:33:02]
revenue to, umm, to pay for the
[1:33:06]
modernization work.
[1:33:06]
for example, right now the
[1:33:10]
minneapolis police department
[1:33:11]
spends approximately, in the
[1:33:12]
ballpark of $600,000 per one
[1:33:16]
week on overtime alone. Half of
[1:33:22]
that, three and a half days of
[1:33:24]
overtime could pay for this
[1:33:28]
entire project. You have the
[1:33:30]
money. Find it somewhere else.
[1:33:36]
the second piece that -- that I
[1:33:39]
want to name here in this
[1:33:42]
discussion is, ah, I think I'm
[1:33:46]
about to do the minnesotan thing
[1:33:49]
on the planet. I'm going to
[1:33:52]
invoke paul wellstone. Prepare
[1:33:54]
myself. My favorite paul
[1:33:56]
wellstone quote is about, you
[1:33:57]
know, if we don't fight hard for
[1:33:59]
the things we believe in, at
[1:34:01]
some point, we have to accept
[1:34:03]
that we don't really believe in
[1:34:06]
them. Ah, I think it's
[1:34:09]
incredly powerful and one I
[1:34:11]
reflect on often.
[1:34:12]
the residents of this city
[1:34:14]
believe in protecting our
[1:34:17]
immigrants, immigrant neighbors
[1:34:18]
so much that they will put their
[1:34:20]
bodies on the line. That two of
[1:34:24]
our residents lost their lives
[1:34:27]
standing up for the people in
[1:34:29]
our city. That's how much we
[1:34:31]
believe in it. But our
[1:34:33]
government is going to say for a
[1:34:37]
measly $300,000, we're okay with
[1:34:41]
the assertion that some people
[1:34:44]
who live in our city, because of
[1:34:46]
the color of their skin, are
[1:34:49]
illegal aliens? That we should
[1:34:51]
be -- in the purpose of funding,
[1:34:53]
it talks about the importance.
[1:34:56]
that the purpose of this funding
[1:34:59]
is to help local jurisdictions
[1:35:03]
better cooperate with the
[1:35:05]
federal government to carry out
[1:35:08]
immigration enforcement
[1:35:10]
proceedings. Immigration
[1:35:12]
enforcement actions. That's the
[1:35:13]
purpose of this funding, as
[1:35:16]
well. And so we're going to --
[1:35:19]
we're going to abandon the
[1:35:20]
things we believe in for
[1:35:26]
$300,000? But the people of our
[1:35:28]
city will give their lives to
[1:35:31]
stand up for their beliefs?
[1:35:34]
this seems inconsistent to me.
[1:35:37]
so, unfortunately, I can't
[1:35:38]
support this today. And it
[1:35:40]
feels important to me, also,
[1:35:43]
then to name that, ah, I think
[1:35:47]
there's some disinformation
[1:35:47]
happening, as well. Thank you,
[1:35:48]
mr. President.
[1:35:51]
» Ah, seeing no one else left
[1:35:55]
in queue, I see vp in the queue
[1:35:57]
but I don't see him in the
[1:36:00]
chambers. Council member
[1:36:02]
rainville.
[1:36:03]
» Thank you. So, commander
[1:36:05]
brown, I don't want to put you
[1:36:07]
on the spot here. But it's my
[1:36:09]
knowledge that this overtime
[1:36:11]
cost is driven by the lack of
[1:36:13]
9-1-1 responders that we have to
[1:36:16]
pay 9-1-1 responders t answer
[1:36:18]
emergency calls. Is that true?
[1:36:22]
» Commander brown.
[1:36:24]
» Thank you, council president.
[1:36:25]
through the chair, council
[1:36:27]
member rainville. That is
[1:36:28]
correct.
[1:36:28]
» Thank you. Council member
[1:36:33]
chowdhury.
[1:36:34]
» Thank you, so much, president
[1:36:37]
payne. I think for me, the
[1:36:42]
contention that I have with this
[1:36:44]
is not with nibin. Right. I
[1:36:47]
see the value and the resource.
[1:36:50]
absolutely. I think it's
[1:36:52]
important to state. Because I
[1:36:53]
have had residents reach out
[1:36:55]
that believe, like, if we don't
[1:36:56]
apply for the grant it's going
[1:36:59]
to cease to exist. Ihink me
[1:37:02]
and others on this body, and the
[1:37:03]
police department can agree
[1:37:04]
that's not helpful. For
[1:37:08]
residents to believe that nibin
[1:37:11]
won't exist if we don't apply
[1:37:13]
for this. It creates a lot of
[1:37:14]
alarms for people. I think
[1:37:16]
others have done a good jobf
[1:37:19]
laying out, we like, we have a
[1:37:21]
budget choice before us. Right.
[1:37:23]
it's $300,000 from our coffers,
[1:37:28]
city general fund, wherever.
[1:37:29]
maybe we need to move things
[1:37:30]
around. We oftentimes move
[1:37:32]
things around for public safety.
[1:37:33]
we have a long history of that.
[1:37:36]
especially as it comes to the
[1:37:37]
police department. Or it's to
[1:37:40]
take this potential funding from
[1:37:42]
the federal government, right,
[1:37:43]
that hasn't been granted to us.
[1:37:46]
there's also a chance it won't
[1:37:47]
be granted to us. We know that
[1:37:49]
the president of the united
[1:37:51]
states and the donl doj
[1:37:53]
is not really a big fan for
[1:37:55]
minneapolis. Even if we were
[1:37:57]
invited for this. We know the
[1:37:58]
administration is purposefully
[1:38:01]
not giving funding o resources
[1:38:05]
to its political enemies and
[1:38:07]
detractors. That's the reality
[1:38:11]
of 2026.
[1:38:13]
for me, the purpose of funding
[1:38:17]
and the biden act, and the
[1:38:21]
language in which this came
[1:38:23]
from, is extremely egregious and
[1:38:28]
deplorable. And I -- the term
[1:38:33]
"illegal alien" is not just a
[1:38:38]
legal term of art. It's a slur.
[1:38:40]
it's an absolutely slur.
[1:38:43]
calling people illegal aliens is
[1:38:48]
dehumanizing, degrading, and it
[1:38:49]
creates a permission structure
[1:38:51]
for violence against them. It
[1:38:56]
just does and h and we've seen
[1:38:57]
over and over again. There's
[1:38:59]
a policy choice here today, do
[1:39:01]
we apply for grants for the
[1:39:02]
purpose of funding has slurs
[1:39:04]
within them? It's just really
[1:39:09]
just starkly before us. U don't
[1:39:15]
think it's just about rhetoric
[1:39:18]
or ideology. I think it's a
[1:39:20]
govern innoc
[1:39:24]
governance approach. If the
[1:39:25]
purpose of funding looked
[1:39:28]
different, the grant, if it came
[1:39:30]
from a different bill. It would
[1:39:33]
have my support. But it
[1:39:36]
doesn't. And I can't sit on
[1:39:38]
this body and give a permission
[1:39:42]
structure, create a permission
[1:39:43]
structure here to say that we're
[1:39:44]
applying for grants with slurs
[1:39:47]
in them..
[1:39:50]
» Vice president osman.
[1:39:51]
» All right. Thank you so
[1:39:53]
much. I have a comment and then
[1:39:56]
I have one clarification from
[1:39:59]
the staff.
[1:40:01]
colleagues, the way I understand
[1:40:02]
this language, or this grant is
[1:40:05]
that, first of all, we apply all
[1:40:10]
kinds of grants from the federal
[1:40:11]
government. We apply housing
[1:40:12]
grants. We apply roads,
[1:40:16]
highways. There is all kinds of
[1:40:18]
grants that makes our city keep
[1:40:21]
moving. And, also, this
[1:40:27]
administration has used a
[1:40:28]
language, and I'm sure -- I'm
[1:40:30]
sure if we look in deep other
[1:40:32]
grants, we'll find similar
[1:40:34]
language. So where do we stop?
[1:40:41]
if we start dismissing grants,
[1:40:43]
our city will not be operating.
[1:40:45]
and we're not capable of getting
[1:40:47]
serving our residents in the
[1:40:48]
best way we can. We need that
[1:40:52]
assistance from the federal
[1:40:54]
government. Even the federal
[1:40:58]
government has -- they have used
[1:41:01]
language that is called
[1:41:02]
democracy. You can wait through
[1:41:05]
the election process and maybe a
[1:41:07]
decision will change. Maybe it
[1:41:09]
will not. One thing I will tell
[1:41:10]
you, is the way the government,
[1:41:14]
our local government is set up
[1:41:16]
we rely on the state and the
[1:41:17]
federal government suppo to
[1:41:18]
operate our city.
[1:41:23]
my concern would have been if
[1:41:25]
this is somehow attached to
[1:41:32]
I.c.e. Enforcement, some kind of
[1:41:35]
immigration enforcement. If it
[1:41:36]
would have been similar to that,
[1:41:39]
we have t right to reject
[1:41:41]
that. This grant specifilly
[1:41:42]
has not said anying about
[1:41:47]
immigrant enforcemt. I have
[1:41:49]
received calls from the
[1:41:50]
community members this morning
[1:41:52]
thinking we're voting on
[1:41:56]
accepting this grant will result
[1:41:57]
I.c.e. In arresting our
[1:41:59]
community members. That's
[1:42:01]
misinformation, the way I
[1:42:02]
understand it.
[1:42:03]
and I would like either the city
[1:42:08]
attorney or the staff to kind of
[1:42:11]
clarify about that and get the
[1:42:15]
misinformation out. Will this
[1:42:19]
result immigrant enforcement?
[1:42:20]
accepting this grant?
[1:42:23]
» Good morning, members of the
[1:42:24]
council. Pleasure to be here
[1:42:25]
with you. Again this morning.
[1:42:27]
my name is amy shunt. Lead
[1:42:30]
assistant city attorney.
[1:42:31]
through the chair, vice chair
[1:42:33]
osman, your question was will
[1:42:36]
our application for the grant
[1:42:37]
require us to proport on any
[1:42:40]
kind of I.c.e. Enforcement. I
[1:42:42]
have legally reviewed the terms
[1:42:43]
of the grants, and all of the
[1:42:46]
documents referenced in and the
[1:42:49]
all the documents referenced
[1:42:51]
therein for any terms and
[1:42:52]
conditions for what my office is
[1:42:55]
calling problematic. Anything
[1:42:56]
that would require us to violate
[1:42:58]
the separation ordinance or
[1:43:00]
anything that would be
[1:43:01]
anti-theatrical to the values of
[1:43:02]
the city.
[1:43:03]
and it is my opinion, upon doing
[1:43:05]
that review, that there is
[1:43:07]
nothing in this nofo or nor this
[1:43:11]
application that would require
[1:43:12]
us to violate the separation
[1:43:14]
ordinance to perform any kind of
[1:43:16]
I.c.e. Enforcement or to
[1:43:19]
otherwise require staff to act
[1:43:20]
in a way that is anti-theatrical
[1:43:22]
to the values of the city.
[1:43:23]
» Thank you so much. That's
[1:43:26]
exactly what I thought. Even if
[1:43:28]
it was the case, you wouldn't
[1:43:30]
even approach applying that.
[1:43:31]
that will violate the city
[1:43:33]
separation ordinance.
[1:43:35]
so my final comment is that,
[1:43:37]
colleagues, we can be angry with
[1:43:39]
the federal government, the way
[1:43:41]
they treat people, the language
[1:43:43]
they use. But voting down this
[1:43:45]
would only hurt us and hurt --
[1:43:48]
not benefit the work we're
[1:43:50]
trying to do. Which is to
[1:43:52]
accept this grant so we can do
[1:43:54]
better processing on criminal
[1:43:56]
activity.
[1:43:57]
so I would say I am an
[1:44:02]
immigrant. I'm someone who has
[1:44:06]
been in communities that has
[1:44:07]
been targeted in the city of
[1:44:08]
minneapolis. But I think you
[1:44:10]
have to wait on how things come.
[1:44:12]
this is coming separate angle.
[1:44:17]
and it's not nothing to do with
[1:44:19]
I.c.e. Enforcement. And I think
[1:44:20]
we should vote on it. And this
[1:44:23]
is money that will come to our
[1:44:24]
city to support the work we do
[1:44:26]
for our citizens. Thank you.
[1:44:29]
» Council member palmisano.
[1:44:32]
» Thank you, mr. President. I
[1:44:34]
think council member osman
[1:44:36]
already said most of what I was
[1:44:37]
going to say.
[1:44:39]
we are not abandoning our values
[1:44:42]
or beliefs here. Because the
[1:44:44]
terms of this grant do not
[1:44:46]
require that. And I would be
[1:44:49]
happy to entertain a resolution
[1:44:52]
condemning language in requiring
[1:44:53]
the city not to be required to
[1:44:57]
violate a separation ordinance.
[1:44:58]
I fear the confusion around this
[1:45:00]
grant is made by rhetoric on
[1:45:02]
this dais. Not by the
[1:45:04]
requirements of the grant, and
[1:45:06]
not by our city attorney. Who
[1:45:08]
has said, basically the same
[1:45:10]
thing in committee of the whole,
[1:45:11]
again for us today. We are
[1:45:13]
accepting is federal money for a
[1:45:15]
lot of other things, mostly
[1:45:17]
money in public works. I don't
[1:45:19]
think we should stop. So I will
[1:45:21]
make a motion to approve --
[1:45:24]
» Second.
[1:45:24]
» And ask that we move
[1:45:26]
forward.
[1:45:26]
. Thank you.
[1:45:30]
» Council member palmisano has
[1:45:32]
moved approval. Did I hear a
[1:45:33]
second?
[1:45:33]
» Second.
[1:45:35]
» Okay. Council member warren.
[1:45:39]
» Thank you, council president
[1:45:43]
payne.
[1:45:44]
it pains me to know there's
[1:45:46]
language that is marginalizing
[1:45:51]
and disenfranchising members of
[1:45:52]
our community because of the
[1:45:54]
simple fact, like I said this at
[1:45:57]
the committee of the whole
[1:46:00]
meeting. I don't know any
[1:46:01]
aliens
[1:46:02]
I've never seen any my life.
[1:46:04]
these are residents of our city.
[1:46:07]
when I think about supporting
[1:46:09]
the national integrated
[1:46:11]
ballistic information network,
[1:46:15]
I'm thinking about how many of
[1:46:17]
my neighbors and community
[1:46:20]
members are sitting and waiting
[1:46:22]
for justice to be served, and
[1:46:25]
for someone to support the cries
[1:46:31]
that far too long have gone
[1:46:34]
unanswered on our community.
[1:46:35]
I'm thinking about how
[1:46:37]
specifically in north
[1:46:39]
minneapolis, we have buried so
[1:46:40]
many sons and daughters,
[1:46:41]
brothers and sisters, mothers
[1:46:43]
and fathers who are still
[1:46:45]
waiting for a phone call that
[1:46:48]
says somebody has been arrested
[1:46:53]
with respect to what has
[1:46:54]
happened to their loved one.
[1:46:56]
right.
[1:46:56]
they're waiting for those
[1:46:58]
answers. They're waiting for a
[1:47:00]
response to be given to them.
[1:47:03]
and this is not about increasing
[1:47:06]
arrest for the sake of just
[1:47:07]
arresting people. It's about
[1:47:10]
connecting evidence that is left
[1:47:12]
behind at crime scenes and
[1:47:14]
linking it to shootings that
[1:47:18]
involve firearms and giving the
[1:47:20]
investigators the tools they
[1:47:21]
need to be solution driven more
[1:47:25]
quickly. Before people get
[1:47:27]
away.
[1:47:29]
so I think about these things.
[1:47:30]
I think about families that are
[1:47:32]
still searching for justice,
[1:47:33]
like the family of aniya allen,
[1:47:38]
trinity smith, la daveon
[1:47:42]
garrett. I'm thinking about
[1:47:43]
those babies whose murders have
[1:47:45]
not been solved recently. And
[1:47:46]
people are just running around
[1:47:48]
here free. You know, and that
[1:47:51]
people need to have a piece of
[1:47:54]
mind knowing that someone is
[1:47:57]
being held accountable for the
[1:48:00]
wrongdoing and the pain they
[1:48:01]
have inflicted upon our
[1:48:02]
community.
[1:48:03]
and it doesn't make a difference
[1:48:05]
what race you are, what sex you
[1:48:07]
are, what any of the -- none of
[1:48:09]
that stuff makes any difference
[1:48:11]
at all. If you have harmed
[1:48:14]
someone and ten a life, or
[1:48:16]
inflicted pain upon the
[1:48:18]
community, then you need some
[1:48:19]
time to sit down and
[1:48:21]
self-reflect. And that's just
[1:48:22]
where I sit with it. This is
[1:48:25]
not about picking out or picking
[1:48:27]
apart anything. This is really
[1:48:29]
about bringing answers to
[1:48:32]
families who have cried out for
[1:48:35]
far too long about wanting
[1:48:37]
justice for their loved ones who
[1:48:38]
have lost their lives due to
[1:48:41]
acts of gun violence. That's
[1:48:42]
where I have to sit with it at.
[1:48:44]
I don't know any aliens. Never
[1:48:46]
met any in any life. But I know
[1:48:48]
that it is my fiduciary
[1:48:52]
responsibility to protect all of
[1:48:53]
my community members and to use
[1:48:55]
every tool that I have to ensure
[1:48:57]
the safety, love, care, and
[1:49:00]
compassion that is extended to
[1:49:01]
my community members is the same
[1:49:03]
I will want for my own family.
[1:49:05]
the end.
[1:49:06]
» Council member whiting.
[1:49:07]
» Thank you, president payne.
[1:49:09]
just have one question for our
[1:49:10]
city attorney.
[1:49:16]
thank you, city attorney schutt.
[1:49:19]
in your legal analysis, is
[1:49:25]
there language contained in
[1:49:26]
either the nofo or the grant
[1:49:29]
application that violates or
[1:49:31]
that would have our city
[1:49:33]
violated separation ordinance?
[1:49:34]
» Through the chair, council
[1:49:36]
member whiting, no. There is
[1:49:38]
not. We review the grant and
[1:49:42]
the application for concerns
[1:49:43]
like that. Frankly, it wouldn't
[1:49:45]
get to you if it had a
[1:49:47]
requirement to violate the
[1:49:49]
separation ordinance.
[1:49:49]
» Okay. That's all. Thank
[1:49:52]
you.
[1:49:53]
» Council member chavez.
[1:49:54]
» Thank you, council president
[1:49:55]
payne.
[1:49:56]
I keep hearing the point being
[1:49:58]
made about not violating a
[1:50:00]
separation ordinance. I think
[1:50:01]
it means I need to do another
[1:50:03]
notice of intent in
[1:50:06]
strengthening the separation
[1:50:06]
ordinance. That's one. To be
[1:50:08]
clear, if it doesn't violate the
[1:50:12]
separation ordinance. We have
[1:50:12]
to make it stronger again. I
[1:50:14]
think we're asking the wrong
[1:50:16]
questions. If we would
[1:50:17]
interpret us not having to
[1:50:19]
enforce federal immigration law.
[1:50:20]
what I want to work on, because
[1:50:22]
the reason I didn't bring it
[1:50:23]
forward the resolution on, like,
[1:50:25]
attaching it to this. Is
[1:50:27]
because I -- it needs to be
[1:50:28]
workshopped more. And I'm happy
[1:50:30]
to bring it back next time.
[1:50:32]
what we're not asking for what
[1:50:35]
the federal government expects
[1:50:36]
of us if we accept the money.
[1:50:38]
that's what my concern is. If
[1:50:39]
the federal government is going
[1:50:40]
to expect us to do federal
[1:50:44]
immigration enforcement. That's
[1:50:45]
a concern. If we accept the
[1:50:48]
grant, I bet. That's what I'm
[1:50:49]
concerned about us applying and
[1:50:51]
accepting this funding. And,
[1:50:52]
you know, if we want to make it
[1:50:54]
about rhetoric, it's not about
[1:50:55]
rhetoric. I'm happy to bring
[1:50:57]
the resolution forward so we can
[1:50:59]
get answers.
[1:51:00]
» Council member stevenson.
[1:51:02]
» Yeah. Thank you.
[1:51:05]
I want to go back to what
[1:51:08]
council member chughtai said
[1:51:09]
earlier about if we really
[1:51:11]
believe the thing that we say
[1:51:14]
that we believe.
[1:51:17]
we are in a historic time. A
[1:51:19]
time when our actions are under
[1:51:21]
different scrutiny and have
[1:51:23]
different meaning than they
[1:51:25]
would in another time. And I
[1:51:29]
hesitate to use the word
[1:51:31]
unprecedented times. You can't
[1:51:33]
have an entirely unprecedentedt.
[1:51:36]
but we are in
[1:51:43]
» That ice invaded our city and
[1:51:46]
took our neighbors and killed
[1:51:47]
some of our neighbors. We are in
[1:51:49]
a time when our actions have
[1:51:51]
different ramifications. And we
[1:51:52]
have to do things a little
[1:51:54]
differently in response to the
[1:51:55]
fact that we are not in normal
[1:51:58]
times. We are not in a time when
[1:52:02]
you c overlook certain things.
[1:52:05]
where putting up yourose at
[1:52:08]
different moral issues is
[1:52:09]
acceptable. We are in a time
[1:52:11]
when we need to stand for what
[1:52:14]
we believe. We need to actually
[1:52:15]
in ways that are meaningful and
[1:52:18]
in ways that sometimes cause us
[1:52:21]
discomfort stand up for what we
[1:52:23]
believe. And in thi case, we
[1:52:25]
believe that all of our
[1:52:26]
neighbors have the right to be
[1:52:27]
here and we love them and
[1:52:29]
they're important members of our
[1:52:31]
community. And we don't want to
[1:52:33]
go alongith this evil federal
[1:52:36]
government in even the rhetoric
[1:52:37]
that they say about them. Yeah,
[1:52:42]
it's just a different time.
[1:52:44]
we're not in -- this isn't 2012,
[1:52:48]
you know. We're here in 2026 in
[1:52:51]
minneapolis after the invasion
[1:52:52]
of the federal government and
[1:52:53]
it's just time for us to say,
[1:52:55]
hey, we're not even going to
[1:52:57]
accept this rhetoric. And I
[1:52:58]
understand that, you know, on a
[1:53:01]
balance sheet rhetoric doesn't
[1:53:03]
show up. Rhetoric doesn't matter
[1:53:06]
on a balance sheet. But you know
[1:53:08]
what? We're not balance sheets,
[1:53:11]
we're people. And rhetoric
[1:53:13]
matters to people. We can and we
[1:53:15]
will find other money to keep
[1:53:19]
this nibin access going. We
[1:53:21]
don't need this money. There is
[1:53:23]
$300,000 in the couch cushion in
[1:53:26]
this city. The harley davidson's
[1:53:31]
alone, let's sell those guys and
[1:53:32]
then we could have this fully
[1:53:34]
funded. It really is that
[1:53:36]
simple and so let's stand up
[1:53:37]
for what we believe and let's
[1:53:39]
find money, particularly the
[1:53:42]
harley davidson's to fund nibin
[1:53:45]
access. We are not interested in
[1:53:47]
lowering our public safety.
[1:53:49]
we're just interested in
[1:53:50]
standing up for what we believe
[1:53:50]
in.
[1:53:52]
» I added myself to queue
[1:53:56]
because I shared some remarks
[1:53:57]
related to this on tuesday. But
[1:54:00]
just zooming out, again, I'm not
[1:54:04]
questioning the legal analysis
[1:54:06]
of our city attorney's office.
[1:54:09]
I'm profoundly concerned about
[1:54:12]
how the federalovernment will
[1:54:13]
assess this. And just to p it
[1:54:17]
in the context, the new york
[1:54:19]
times did some recent reporting
[1:54:23]
on some of the charges that were
[1:54:26]
brought forward for ice
[1:54:27]
observers. And they were
[1:54:28]
comparing and contrasting how
[1:54:30]
the doj has operated in the past
[1:54:33]
compared to how they're
[1:54:34]
conducting themselves now.
[1:54:37]
historically, they don't bring
[1:54:39]
criminal cases forward unless
[1:54:40]
they know they have the evidence
[1:54:42]
to win in court. That's led to
[1:54:44]
more than 90% of defendants
[1:54:48]
pleading guilty or being
[1:54:49]
convicted at trial. In this new
[1:54:50]
york times reporting, they
[1:54:53]
assessed 558 charges against
[1:54:56]
legal observers. They've only
[1:55:00]
gotten 246 that pled guilty, and
[1:55:03]
four convictions. This is a very
[1:55:08]
divergent tract record fm how
[1:55:10]
the doj operates. And it's a
[1:55:14]
representation of the fact that
[1:55:16]
they bring spurious chaes and
[1:55:18]
they conduct themselves not
[1:55:20]
grounded in the rule of law, but
[1:55:23]
early through political
[1:55:23]
motivation and retaliation. As
[1:55:28]
best evidenced by the mass
[1:55:30]
resignation of our u.s.
[1:55:32]
attorney's office earlier this
[1:55:34]
year, particularly after the
[1:55:36]
murder of renee good and when
[1:55:38]
the trump administration was
[1:55:39]
trying to pressure the
[1:55:42]
attorney's office to actually
[1:55:43]
investigate ms. Good's wife
[1:55:45]
rather than the agents that
[1:55:46]
murdered her. Mass resignation
[1:55:51]
because some u.s. Attorneys that
[1:55:55]
I don't agree with actually,
[1:55:56]
they actually hold themselves to
[1:55:58]
some integrity. And so what
[1:56:00]
we're left with in our current
[1:56:03]
attorney's office is whoever the
[1:56:06]
back-benchers are who want to
[1:56:07]
sign on to this administration's
[1:56:11]
agenda. And this agenda is
[1:56:13]
overtly authoritarian, it's
[1:56:15]
overtly racist. They are pushing
[1:56:18]
rhetoric around white genocide.
[1:56:20]
it's disgusting. And all you
[1:56:22]
have to do is look at the white
[1:56:26]
house twitter feed or the
[1:56:29]
department of homend
[1:56:30]
security's twitter feed to see
[1:56:33]
what kind of country they want
[1:56:36]
to see for the rest of us. And
[1:56:39]
I'm notven going to entertain
[1:56:43]
attaching my name to that
[1:56:44]
project. That's why I'm not
[1:56:46]
supporting this. And so with
[1:56:54]
that I see council member
[1:56:55]
whiting in queue.
[1:56:56]
» Thank you, president payne.
[1:56:57]
just have a question for our
[1:57:00]
city attorney here. City
[1:57:02]
attorney abelson. I have a
[1:57:03]
question broadly about your kind
[1:57:05]
of legal understanding. I know
[1:57:06]
this is probably a cold call
[1:57:08]
kind of question, so if you
[1:57:09]
don't have the answer, I
[1:57:11]
apologize for putting you on the
[1:57:12]
spot here. Do you know of any
[1:57:16]
federal law, any state law, any
[1:57:19]
city law that requires a city
[1:57:24]
jurisdiction to be comandeered
[1:57:27]
by the federal government to
[1:57:29]
engage in federal law
[1:57:30]
enforcement action?
[1:57:31]
» Chair, council member whitin
[1:57:33]
answer to any law because there
[1:57:36]
certainly are states where they
[1:57:37]
require their law enforcement to
[1:57:40]
assist the federal government.
[1:57:41]
that is not the case in
[1:57:45]
miesota. We recently also got
[1:57:47]
a very good decision from the
[1:57:51]
district court here rejecting
[1:57:52]
the federal government's
[1:57:54]
challenge to our separation
[1:57:56]
ordinance because the federal
[1:57:57]
government does not have the
[1:58:00]
right to comandeer our police
[1:58:02]
force for immigtion
[1:58:04]
enforcement.
[1:58:04]
» Thank you. I appreciate it.
[1:58:08]
» Seeing no one else left in
[1:58:09]
queue, I will ask the clerk to
[1:58:13]
call the roll.
[1:58:15]
» Council member warren.
[1:58:16]
» Aye.
[1:58:17]
» Council member shaffer.
[1:58:18]
» Aye.
[1:58:19]
» Chughtai.
[1:58:20]
» Nay.
[1:58:21]
» Whiting.
[1:58:21]
» Aye.
[1:58:23]
» Chowdhury.
[1:58:23]
» No.
[1:58:24]
» Stevenson.
[1:58:25]
» No.
[1:58:26]
» Rainville.
[1:58:27]
» Aye.
[1:58:28]
» Vetaw.
[1:58:29]
» Aye.
[1:58:31]
» Palmisano.
[1:58:32]
» Aye.
[1:58:32]
» Chavez.
[1:58:33]
» Aye. No!
[1:58:37]
no.
[1:58:37]
[laughter]
[1:58:38]
» Osman.
[1:58:39]
» Aye.
[1:58:40]
» President payne.
[1:58:41]
» Nay.
[1:58:43]
» There are seven ayes and five
[1:58:45]
noes.
[1:58:46]
» Tt item carries. Next, is
[1:58:51]
the report of our enterprise and
[1:58:53]
labor relations committee which
[1:58:54]
will be presented by its chair,
[1:58:55]
council member palmisano.
[1:58:57]
» Thank you, mr. President. The
[1:58:59]
enterprise and labor relations
[1:59:00]
committee has 10 items to bring
[1:59:02]
forward today. I think all are
[1:59:03]
non-controversial here. First is
[1:59:08]
a legislative process reform
[1:59:11]
research and recommendations
[1:59:12]
request. Item 2 is a bid for the
[1:59:16]
fire department training
[1:59:16]
apparatus expansion project.
[1:59:18]
item 3 is what we think is the
[1:59:21]
last small contract amendment
[1:59:22]
with shaw lundquist for the city
[1:59:24]
hall restack phase 3 project.
[1:59:26]
item 4 is contract with saba
[1:59:30]
software for enterprise wide
[1:59:31]
performance management system
[1:59:32]
support and maintenance. Item
[1:59:34]
five is a legal settlement with
[1:59:37]
cameron cecchini. Item 6 is a
[1:59:40]
legal settlement that is a
[1:59:44]
workers' comp claim of terrence
[1:59:46]
floyd. 7 is a claim settlement
[1:59:48]
minneapolis convention center
[1:59:50]
claim against northern states
[1:59:51]
power company. We are receiving
[1:59:54]
money in that situation. Eight
[1:59:57]
is indebtedness and bond
[1:59:59]
issuance authorization related
[2:00:01]
to capital improvement bonds. We
[2:00:02]
had a short conversation about
[2:00:03]
that in committee. Nine is an
[2:00:06]
appointed position in the health
[2:00:07]
department for the director of
[2:00:08]
environmental health. That is
[2:00:10]
just taking an old position and
[2:00:12]
refreshing it. Item 10 is an
[2:00:14]
enterprise and labor relations
[2:00:15]
committee work plan. I'm happy
[2:00:17]
to answer any questions. Oh
[2:00:20]
wait. But I move all of these
[2:00:21]
forward for approval.
[2:00:24]
» Council member palmisano has
[2:00:26]
moved approval of the
[2:00:27]
committee's report. Is there any
[2:00:27]
discussion? Seeing none, I'll
[2:00:31]
ask the clerk to call the roll.
[2:00:35]
» Council member warren.
[2:00:36]
» Aye.
[2:00:37]
» Council member shaffer. >> a
[2:00:39]
» Council member chughtai.
[2:00:40]
» Aye.
[2:00:41]
» Whiting.
[2:00:42]
» Aye.
[2:00:43]
» Chowdhury.
[2:00:43]
» Aye.
[2:00:44]
» Stevenson.
[2:00:45]
» Aye.
[2:00:46]
» Rainville.
[2:00:47]
» Aye.
[2:00:48]
» Vetaw.
[2:00:48]
» Aye.
[2:00:50]
» Palmisano.
[2:00:51]
» Aye.
[2:00:52]
» Chavez.
[2:00:53]
» Aye.
[2:00:53]
» Vice president osman.
[2:00:55]
» Aye.
[2:00:55]
» President payne.
[2:00:56]
» Aye.
[2:00:57]
» There are 12 ayes.
[2:00:58]
» That carries and the report
[2:00:59]
is adopd. Finally, we have the
[2:01:02]
public health safety and equity
[2:01:03]
committee which will be
[2:01:05]
presented by that committee's
[2:01:07]
chair, council member chavez.
[2:01:12]
» Thank you, mr. President,
[2:01:14]
public health, safety and equity
[2:01:15]
committee is bringing seven
[2:01:16]
items. One is appointing dr.
[2:01:21]
freeman to the appointed
[2:01:23]
position for fire chief. I will
[2:01:25]
move that for a separate vote.
[2:01:27]
two is contract with hennepin
[2:01:29]
technical college for the police
[2:01:31]
cadet program. Three is contract
[2:01:34]
amendment with govworx inc.
[2:01:36]
item 4 authorizes a contract
[2:01:38]
amendment with the center for
[2:01:40]
multicultural mediation for
[2:01:42]
community trauma services. Item
[2:01:46]
5 authorizes a contract
[2:01:46]
amendment with a mother's love
[2:01:48]
initiative for community trauma
[2:01:49]
response services. Six accepts a
[2:01:51]
grant for the minnesota
[2:01:52]
department of health to provide
[2:01:53]
a family home visiting services
[2:01:55]
and authorizing an agreement
[2:01:56]
with the state of minnesota for
[2:01:58]
the grant. Item 7 approves a
[2:02:01]
legislative directive related to
[2:02:05]
the neighborhood safety
[2:02:07]
department contract audit. I
[2:02:08]
move item number one for a
[2:02:12]
separate vote and discussion.
[2:02:14]
» Council member chavez has
[2:02:14]
moved approval of the committee
[2:02:16]
report minus item one. Is there
[2:02:17]
any discussion on the remainder
[2:02:21]
of the report? Seeing none, I'll
[2:02:23]
ask the clerk to call the roll
[2:02:26]
on all items except item number
[2:02:29]
one.
[2:02:30]
» Council member warren.
[2:02:31]
» Aye.
[2:02:32]
» Shaffer.
[2:02:32]
» Aye.
[2:02:33]
» Chughtai.
[2:02:34]
» Aye.
[2:02:35]
» Whiting.
[2:02:35]
» Aye.
[2:02:36]
» Chowdhury.
[2:02:37]
» Aye.
[2:02:38]
» Stevenson.
[2:02:38]
» Aye.
[2:02:39]
» Rainville.
[2:02:40]
» Aye.
[2:02:41]
» Vetaw.
[2:02:41]
» Aye.
[2:02:42]
» Palmisano.
[2:02:43]
» Aye.
[2:02:44]
» Chavez.
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» Aye.
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» Vice president osman.
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» Aye.
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» President payne.
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» Aye.
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» There are 12 ayes.
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» Those items carry. Next, we
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will take up item number one. I
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there a motion for item number
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one?
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» I will make a motion to move
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approval.
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» For approval. Is there a
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second?
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» Second.
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» Item number one has been
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moved for approval and seconded.
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is there any discussion? Oh. I
[2:03:12]
see mayor frey has joined us. H
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want to jump in?
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» Mr. Chair, yes. And just
[2:03:24]
assumedly we are talking about
[2:03:27]
the renomination for fire chief.
[2:03:29]
thank you. Thank you. Good
[2:03:31]
afternoon, council president,
[2:03:33]
vice president, and council
[2:03:34]
members. Thanks again for having
[2:03:36]
me here today to discuss the
[2:03:38]
nomination of our next fire
[2:03:40]
chief. So when we started the
[2:03:42]
search for this fire chief in
[2:03:44]
the minneapolis fire department,
[2:03:45]
my top goal was to get someone
[2:03:48]
into this role who could lead a
[2:03:51]
team that has been known for its
[2:03:53]
excellence but also lead a team
[2:03:55]
into the future that's
[2:03:57]
recognizing innovation and
[2:03:58]
technology, that's understanding
[2:04:01]
the managerial expertise for
[2:04:02]
this department, and is someone
[2:04:03]
who understands the importance
[2:04:05]
of integration of this fire
[2:04:06]
department into a broader safety
[2:04:07]
ecosystem. During that search,
[2:04:11]
we found a really strong field
[2:04:14]
of impressive candidates. And
[2:04:15]
there was an individual who rose
[2:04:17]
to the top, and that's why we've
[2:04:21]
nominated dr. Reginald freeman
[2:04:22]
to the position of fire chief.
[2:04:25]
dr. Freeman's impressive resume
[2:04:27]
is one that speaks for itself.
[2:04:29]
former chief of both the oakland
[2:04:31]
and hartford fire departments.
[2:04:33]
dr. Freeman has demonstrated an
[2:04:35]
ability to lead organizations
[2:04:37]
and leave them better than when
[2:04:39]
he started. But even more
[2:04:40]
impressive than his resume, dr.
[2:04:45]
freeman has demonstrated and
[2:04:46]
leaves an impression with those
[2:04:48]
he works with. I believe you all
[2:04:50]
have access to the over 20
[2:04:52]
letters of support for dr.
[2:04:54]
freeman's confirmation. These
[2:04:55]
letters come from fire chiefs,
[2:04:57]
firefighters, labor leaders,
[2:05:00]
elected officials. I've spoke
[2:05:03]
with mayors he had worked with
[2:05:04]
and for. Educators as well as
[2:05:07]
community leaders throughout the
[2:05:07]
united states. They speak to his
[2:05:10]
integrity, his consistency, his
[2:05:16]
servant leadership and
[2:05:17]
compassion for this work and
[2:05:18]
people who he works with.
[2:05:22]
something that also struck me as
[2:05:23]
important is this is not the
[2:05:25]
first time that the doctor has
[2:05:26]
interviewed for this position. I
[2:05:29]
want people that want to be in
[2:05:32]
minneapolis. The first go around
[2:05:33]
when he interviewed, he also did
[2:05:35]
an impressive job. But he wasn't
[2:05:37]
selected. And someone who steps
[2:05:42]
up, fails to get the nomination,
[2:05:45]
and steps up again signals
[2:05:47]
someone that has commitment to
[2:05:49]
this city and really wants to be
[2:05:50]
here. If you talk to him, he
[2:05:53]
wants to be here. If you talk to
[2:05:55]
him, he wants to have his family
[2:05:57]
here. He understands the
[2:05:57]
importance of the work that
[2:06:00]
we're doing. And like I did,
[2:06:04]
understands minneapolis is a
[2:06:04]
place where he wants to be. And
[2:06:09]
so I want to thank our whole
[2:06:11]
fire department. I want to thank
[2:06:13]
our commissioner who has done
[2:06:14]
really a great job leading this
[2:06:17]
search as well as managing the
[2:06:20]
office. I want to thank chief
[2:06:23]
melanie rucker for stepping up
[2:06:25]
over the last several months
[2:06:26]
leading this team especially
[2:06:28]
through the very difficult times
[2:06:30]
of january and february of 2026.
[2:06:34]
that guidance will always be
[2:06:38]
deeply appreciated. And with
[2:06:42]
that, it is with great privilege
[2:06:44]
that I recommend dr. Reginald
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freeman for confirmation of fire
[2:06:48]
chief of the minneapolis fire
[2:06:49]
department. And I ask for your
[2:06:51]
support. Thank you for your
[2:06:54]
time, council members.
[2:06:55]
» Council member vetaw.
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» Thank you, president payne.
[2:06:57]
colleagues, I want to briefly
[2:07:00]
explain my vote on the
[2:07:02]
appointment of dr. Reginald
[2:07:04]
freeman. This has been a
[2:07:06]
difficult decision for me. I
[2:07:08]
took this appointment very
[2:07:09]
serious like I do all of them.
[2:07:11]
because the leadership of our
[2:07:13]
fire department directly impacts
[2:07:14]
e safety of our firefighters
[2:07:15]
and our residents. I had the
[2:07:16]
opportunity to meet one on one
[2:07:18]
with dr. Freeman, and I want to
[2:07:20]
be honest that I came away with
[2:07:22]
concerns. Some of those concerns
[2:07:25]
relate to his professional
[2:07:27]
experience, and others stem from
[2:07:29]
our conversation about his
[2:07:30]
vision and leadership. I believe
[2:07:32]
it is my responsibility to
[2:07:35]
thoroughly evaluate every
[2:07:36]
nominee and ask the hard
[2:07:38]
questions. During our
[2:07:40]
conversation, we also discussed
[2:07:41]
the lawsuit involving his
[2:07:43]
previous department. Dr. Freeman
[2:07:46]
shared he was not personally
[2:07:47]
named in the lawsuit, and that
[2:07:48]
was not about him directly.
[2:07:51]
while I appreciate the
[2:07:53]
clarification, I also share my
[2:07:54]
concern that as the leader of
[2:07:55]
the department, these events
[2:07:57]
occurred under hisleadership.
[2:07:59]
my concern is not simply rather
[2:08:01]
he was personally named, but
[2:08:03]
rather the women who were
[2:08:07]
involved were adequately
[2:08:08]
protected and supported. We have
[2:08:09]
deep respect for the women who
[2:08:11]
serve in our fire department,
[2:08:12]
and I want to ensure they are
[2:08:14]
working in an environment where
[2:08:15]
they are safe, respected and
[2:08:17]
treated with dignity. I also met
[2:08:20]
with representatives from the
[2:08:22]
minneapolis firefighters union
[2:08:23]
to hear directly from the men
[2:08:25]
and women who served in this
[2:08:27]
department every day. Their
[2:08:29]
pport for dr. Freeman weighed
[2:08:33]
heavily in my decision. While I
[2:08:34]
still ve reservations, I
[2:08:36]
respect the confidence they have
[2:08:37]
in his ability to lead. I would
[2:08:40]
also encourage dr. Freeman to
[2:08:42]
take the time to learn from the
[2:08:43]
people already serving in this
[2:08:45]
department. In my experience,
[2:08:46]
firefighters have been among the
[2:08:48]
most loyal public servants. They
[2:08:51]
share unbreakable bonds with one
[2:08:53]
another, and have built a
[2:08:55]
culture rooted in service,
[2:08:56]
trust, and teamwork. I also want
[2:08:59]
to recognize that minneapolis is
[2:09:01]
fortune to have exceptional
[2:09:03]
talent within our own fire
[2:09:04]
department. We have dedicated
[2:09:06]
leaders who know our city,
[2:09:09]
understand our neighbhoods,
[2:09:10]
have built relationships wit
[2:09:12]
our communities, and know how to
[2:09:14]
work within the systems and
[2:09:15]
partnerships that already exist.
[2:09:17]
we are fortunate to have the
[2:09:18]
talent, and I hope we will
[2:09:21]
lean -- I hope dr. Freeman will
[2:09:24]
lean onhe knowledge and
[2:09:25]
experience of those already
[2:09:25]
serving in this department.
[2:09:27]
going into this process, I
[2:09:29]
believe the next fire chief
[2:09:31]
could come from within
[2:09:33]
minneapolifire department. We
[2:09:34]
have a highly qualified internal
[2:09:36]
candidate who stepped forward
[2:09:38]
becausehey have dedicated
[2:09:40]
their careers to serving this
[2:09:42]
city and have earned the respect
[2:09:44]
of their colleagues. They
[2:09:45]
understand the department's
[2:09:47]
culture, the unique challenges
[2:09:48]
facing minneapolis, and the
[2:09:49]
relationship they have built
[2:09:50]
with our communities. I want to
[2:09:53]
acknowledge those interl
[2:09:54]
candidates and thank tm for
[2:09:57]
their willingness to lead, their
[2:09:58]
experience, their commitment and
[2:10:00]
institutional knowledge remain
[2:10:01]
tremendous assets to this
[2:10:02]
department. Over many years,
[2:10:05]
this department has made
[2:10:07]
meaningful progress in
[2:10:09]
recruiting, retaining and
[2:10:10]
promoting black, indigenous, and
[2:10:12]
other people of color, as well
[2:10:14]
as women. The pathways program
[2:10:16]
has been instrumental in
[2:10:18]
building and sustaining the
[2:10:20]
diversity that the minneapolis
[2:10:21]
fire department is known for
[2:10:22]
today. It has created
[2:10:25]
opportunities for people who may
[2:10:27]
not have otherwise seen
[2:10:28]
themselves in this profession
[2:10:30]
and it has helped build a
[2:10:31]
department that better reflects
[2:10:33]
the community it serves. Without
[2:10:34]
the pathway program, we will
[2:10:37]
not have seen the growth in
[2:10:40]
number of women serving in this
[2:10:41]
department. As we move forward,
[2:10:43]
I believe it's critical we
[2:10:45]
continue building on that
[2:10:48]
process, not start forward.
[2:10:49]
women already serving in
[2:10:51]
leadership positions in this
[2:10:52]
department have played an
[2:10:54]
important role in advancing this
[2:10:56]
work. And their experience and
[2:10:58]
persctive should continue to
[2:10:59]
be valued as we strengthen and
[2:11:01]
grow the department. Because of
[2:11:02]
that, I will be voting yes to
[2:11:05]
dr. Freeman today, but with
[2:11:07]
hesitation. My vote comes with
[2:11:09]
the expectation that dr. Freeman
[2:11:10]
will work to earn the trust of
[2:11:14]
the firefighters he will lead,
[2:11:17]
demonstrate, with strong
[2:11:21]
transparent leadership, improve
[2:11:23]
morale, protect the progress
[2:11:24]
this department has made, and
[2:11:26]
ways put the safety and
[2:11:28]
wellbeing of both our
[2:11:29]
firefighters and our residents
[2:11:29]
fit. I also expect fairness
[2:11:35]
from leaders. Every firefighter
[2:11:36]
deserves to be treated with
[2:11:38]
respect, professionalism and
[2:11:39]
equity regardless of their
[2:11:41]
background or rank. Those
[2:11:42]
expectations are not optional.
[2:11:44]
they are fundamental to good
[2:11:48]
leadership. Sincerely hope dr.
[2:11:50]
freeman is successful because
[2:11:51]
the success of our fire chief
[2:11:54]
means a stronger fire department
[2:11:57]
and a safer minneapolis. Dr.
[2:11:59]
freeman, I know you're not here,
[2:12:02]
but I hope you're listening.
[2:12:04]
monitoring the department
[2:12:05]
progress and holding its
[2:12:09]
leadership accountable. I will
[2:12:11]
be paying close attention to how
[2:12:12]
you lead, how you treat the men
[2:12:14]
and women o this department and
[2:12:16]
whether you follow through on
[2:12:17]
the commitments you have made. I
[2:12:18]
hope you earn the trust of this
[2:12:20]
council and the firefighters you
[2:12:21]
lead and the people of
[2:12:22]
minneapolis. Thank you.
[2:12:25]
» Vice president osman.
[2:12:26]
» Thank you, council president.
[2:12:28]
I had a brief conversation with
[2:12:29]
dr. Freeman. Really impressed me
[2:12:34]
hisresume, his international
[2:12:36]
and national experience.
[2:12:37]
we are attracting one of the
[2:12:39]
best and brightest people in the
[2:12:41]
nation. And I think were lucky
[2:12:43]
to hav him. I lk forward
[2:12:45]
working with him. We talked
[2:12:48]
about, you know staffing, the
[2:12:52]
old equipment challenges that
[2:12:53]
how we need to upgrade fire
[2:12:56]
department. And also, I talked
[2:12:57]
to the, you know, the fire union
[2:13:00]
that are here to represent. And
[2:13:02]
they really had great things to
[2:13:04]
say and they're excited to work
[2:13:05]
with him. So I would say we're
[2:13:09]
lucky to have you. Welcome, and
[2:13:11]
we look forward, you know, in
[2:13:13]
your leadership to lead us safer
[2:13:17]
city, a better city, and a
[2:13:21]
wonderful fire department city
[2:13:23]
of minneapolis. So thank you,
[2:13:24]
council president.
[2:13:27]
» Council member warren.
[2:13:28]
» Thank you, council president
[2:13:29]
payne. I want to echo a lot of
[2:13:32]
what my council colleague stated
[2:13:43]
latrisha vetaw. It was a chef's
[2:13:46]
kiss. That was great. I also had
[2:13:49]
a sit down conversation with mr.
[2:13:51]
freeman, dr. Freeman. And I also
[2:13:54]
spoke with our fire's union. One
[2:13:56]
of the things that really stood
[2:13:57]
out to me was hearing this. And
[2:14:00]
this wasn't the first time that
[2:14:01]
I heard that, you know, it's
[2:14:03]
difficult to attract people to
[2:14:07]
want to come here to minneapolis
[2:14:11]
because they hear whatever
[2:14:14]
hoopdala about the internal
[2:14:15]
climate here in our city. So
[2:14:18]
what that says to me is we have
[2:14:20]
to tighten up our ship. Because
[2:14:22]
how we treat each other in our
[2:14:25]
city and interdepartmentally is
[2:14:27]
how other people will come. And
[2:14:28]
they believe that it is
[2:14:29]
acceptable that you are to be
[2:14:32]
treating other people
[2:14:34]
interoffice or
[2:14:35]
interdepartmentally that way.
[2:14:36]
that that's accepted. You know.
[2:14:38]
my parents used to tell me, me
[2:14:41]
and my siblings, we would
[2:14:44]
quarrel or what have you. They
[2:14:45]
said when you go out into
[2:14:48]
community or whatever else the
[2:14:50]
case is or you have company to
[2:14:51]
come over, how you treat each
[2:14:53]
other is how other people
[2:14:55]
believe it is acceptable to
[2:14:57]
treat people when they come into
[2:15:00]
your home. So now we've got to
[2:15:02]
tighten up how we look at home.
[2:15:05]
and we have to make sure we're
[2:15:08]
making those concrete
[2:15:09]
investments. If we are saying
[2:15:12]
our internal candidates --
[2:15:12]
because looking across this
[2:15:15]
dais, I think minnesota has some
[2:15:18]
nice homegrown talent. What I'm
[2:15:20]
saying is if we're saying
[2:15:23]
interdepartmentally, when it
[2:15:24]
comes to investing in
[2:15:27]
individuals that are in our fire
[2:15:30]
department, police department,
[2:15:31]
services department, if we don't
[2:15:32]
have what it takes, that's our
[2:15:35]
fault. So we have to make those
[2:15:37]
concrete investments to ensure
[2:15:39]
that we're investing in our
[2:15:41]
homegrown talent and we are
[2:15:43]
promoting them and elevating
[2:15:45]
them and pushing them up so that
[2:15:47]
they are able to reach the next
[2:15:50]
pinnacle of success. That's what
[2:15:51]
we have to do. It's nice to have
[2:15:54]
other people come and we want to
[2:15:55]
show off our city and what have
[2:15:57]
you. But we also have to be
[2:15:58]
proud of what it is that we
[2:16:00]
create and we feed right here at
[2:16:01]
home. And I'm going to say that
[2:16:03]
with my whole chest, and that we
[2:16:05]
take care of each other and make
[2:16:10]
those really quality investments
[2:16:11]
in one another. I know that dr.
[2:16:15]
freeman is not here. And it
[2:16:17]
saddens me that he's not here
[2:16:18]
because I like for people to be
[2:16:20]
here so I can see the whites of
[2:16:22]
their eyes and talk to them when
[2:16:23]
we're talking about appointments
[2:16:25]
and reappointments and things
[2:16:26]
like that. Because it's
[2:16:28]
important that you are able to
[2:16:30]
stand in the presence of
[2:16:32]
individuals who are elevating
[2:16:34]
you and asking questions. And
[2:16:36]
again, those difficult
[2:16:38]
questions. And I did talk to him
[2:16:41]
about those accusations and
[2:16:42]
things like that because those
[2:16:44]
are important things to discuss.
[2:16:46]
and I believe that any time
[2:16:48]
there's something that's going
[2:16:49]
on when you're talking to other
[2:16:51]
individuals in leadership that
[2:16:52]
you should be able to have those
[2:16:54]
type of conversations and gain
[2:16:57]
clarity and understanding or
[2:16:59]
agree to even disagree. However,
[2:17:04]
I value every service worker,
[2:17:08]
everyone who works in law
[2:17:11]
enforcement, everyone who works
[2:17:13]
in our fire department here. Any
[2:17:14]
service to our community, I
[2:17:16]
value them. And I value our
[2:17:18]
residents. And I want to make
[2:17:20]
sure that whoever it is that
[2:17:22]
comes into our city holds that
[2:17:23]
same value and treats everyone
[2:17:25]
with that same dignity and
[2:17:27]
respect that they deserve
[2:17:28]
because it is necessary. It is
[2:17:32]
not an option, it's a
[2:17:34]
requirement and an expectation.
[2:17:35]
and so I'm going to be leaning
[2:17:37]
in to my fire union to make sure
[2:17:40]
that we're holding individuals
[2:17:42]
accountable. And if you see
[2:17:43]
something and you don't say
[2:17:45]
something, I'm pulling up. The
[2:17:47]
end. Thank you.
[2:17:49]
» Council member chughtai.
[2:17:52]
» Thank you, mr. President. I
[2:18:00]
really appreciate the discussion
[2:18:01]
here today. I had the
[2:18:04]
opportunity to meet with dr.
[2:18:08]
freeman yesterday and I found
[2:18:11]
the conversation to be really
[2:18:12]
wonderful. Very insightful. And
[2:18:15]
I think there are some really
[2:18:17]
incredible strengths that dr.
[2:18:19]
freeman is bringing to
[2:18:22]
minneapolis. That the mayor
[2:18:26]
discussed here and council
[2:18:27]
members have brought up in
[2:18:28]
discussion here today. And I
[2:18:32]
think that makes me excited
[2:18:34]
about the future of this
[2:18:35]
department and the direction it
[2:18:36]
can go in. I want us to have the
[2:18:39]
very best fire department in the
[2:18:40]
world because I believe we have
[2:18:42]
the best firefighters in the
[2:18:45]
world. And I don't think that
[2:18:48]
the growth in this department
[2:18:50]
that really needs to happen to
[2:18:52]
leveup is going to happen
[2:18:57]
without excellent leadership.
[2:19:00]
that matches the tenacity and
[2:19:02]
the grit of the firefighters
[2:19:03]
that work in our department. I
[2:19:10]
always heard a couple of things
[2:19:12]
that raised some concerns for me
[2:19:14]
and further solidified my
[2:19:17]
concerns about dr. Freeman and
[2:19:19]
understanding that I think this
[2:19:20]
nomination is going to be
[2:19:22]
approved here today. I will not
[2:19:28]
be, unfortunately, able to
[2:19:29]
support dr. Freeman here today.
[2:19:31]
and it is in part because of his
[2:19:37]
experience. I think that this
[2:19:41]
department is needing of
[2:19:43]
stability and someone who is
[2:19:44]
going to be here for the long
[2:19:47]
haul. And I think that lots of
[2:19:52]
the majority of the leaders of
[2:19:54]
the fire department as well as
[2:19:56]
firefighters are people who come
[2:19:57]
to this department and stay here
[2:19:59]
for a long time. Spend their
[2:20:01]
entire careers here. And I'm
[2:20:05]
worried about having who is
[2:20:11]
going to come into this
[2:20:12]
department and perhaps not serve
[2:20:14]
out the entirety of the term.
[2:20:20]
and that just raises some
[2:20:22]
concern for me. More
[2:20:23]
importantly, I think it's his
[2:20:27]
professional experience in
[2:20:29]
particular his professional
[2:20:34]
international experience that I
[2:20:37]
just want look past. In our
[2:20:39]
conversation, I felt as though
[2:20:41]
the nominee dismissed the
[2:20:44]
legitimate concerns that I
[2:20:46]
brought up about some pretty
[2:20:49]
severe human rights abuses that
[2:20:53]
happened in the organization he
[2:20:56]
was a leader in internationally
[2:20:58]
that forced the displacement of
[2:21:03]
20,000 indigenous peoples from
[2:21:04]
their homeland to build a
[2:21:11]
climate catastrophe indoor city
[2:21:14]
for the criminally wealthy. I
[2:21:18]
don't think that that's
[2:21:19]
consistent with my values. And
[2:21:21]
so unfortunately, I'm not able
[2:21:25]
to support this nomination. But
[2:21:29]
I wish dr. Freeman the very best
[2:21:33]
of luck as he embarks on this
[2:21:36]
journey and offer myself as a
[2:21:38]
partner always. The fire
[2:21:39]
department is one that's very
[2:21:40]
near and dear to me and I want
[2:21:43]
to make sure it's successful and
[2:21:45]
set up to ensure the safety of
[2:21:47]
our firefighters as they carry
[2:21:49]
out the important work on behalf
[2:21:51]
of our residents. Thank you, mr.
[2:21:52]
president.
[2:21:54]
» Council member whiting.
[2:21:56]
» Thank you, council president
[2:21:59]
payne. I am not a firefighter. I
[2:22:02]
don't purport to be a
[2:22:02]
firefighter and do not want to
[2:22:04]
be a firefighter. It is a tough
[2:22:08]
job and I only tip a hat to what
[2:22:10]
you all do. And so when making
[2:22:12]
decisions of this, I think
[2:22:14]
gravity that we all are kind of
[2:22:16]
weighing here. I've gotta lean
[2:22:19]
on the experts. I've gotta lean
[2:22:21]
on the people that do this job
[2:22:24]
day in and day out. We've heard
[2:22:27]
quite loudly from our union,
[2:22:29]
local 82 here, but firefighters
[2:22:31]
across the city of minneapolis.
[2:22:32]
I have yet to hear a negative
[2:22:34]
word about dr. Freeman. And so
[2:22:38]
when we kind of, again, look to
[2:22:41]
these appointments, especially
[2:22:42]
in areas that I have no level of
[2:22:45]
expertise, I lean on those that
[2:22:47]
do. And so I am basing the large
[2:22:49]
majority of this decision based
[2:22:52]
on the advice that I've received
[2:22:56]
from the people that do this job
[2:22:57]
every single day. I appreciate
[2:22:58]
the work that you all do and the
[2:23:00]
work of being behind this chief
[2:23:01]
and ensuring that we have a fire
[2:23:05]
department that meets the
[2:23:05]
professional standards of what
[2:23:06]
this city deserves. I know you
[2:23:08]
all are doing it day in and day
[2:23:11]
out. I'm excited to see how we
[2:23:13]
can best support you all in the
[2:23:14]
work that you do. Thank you.
[2:23:16]
» Council member rainville.
[2:23:20]
» Thank you. And I appreciate
[2:23:22]
the presence here today from the
[2:23:23]
firefighters union. And I want
[2:23:27]
to explain my vote. When I first
[2:23:28]
met with the chief, I was very
[2:23:30]
leery because this is the first
[2:23:33]
outside chief that this
[2:23:34]
department has had.nd I have
[2:23:37]
to admit, he did not impress he
[2:23:39]
at all. Especially his resume
[2:23:41]
where he goes from department to
[2:23:42]
department. That's troubling to
[2:23:44]
me. Because I truly believe a
[2:23:47]
fire chief should come from
[2:23:48]
within the department. I think
[2:23:50]
that you come on the job
[2:23:51]
together, you work together, you
[2:23:54]
grow together. The chief should
[2:23:56]
come internally. But after many
[2:23:59]
conversations with the
[2:24:00]
firefighters union and with
[2:24:01]
commissioner barnett, and I
[2:24:03]
appreciate your patience with
[2:24:05]
me, commissioner. You brought me
[2:24:07]
wrong. And I do hope the chief
[2:24:10]
is listening today because very
[2:24:11]
unusual to not have someone
[2:24:13]
present here today. That's also
[2:24:14]
something I look forward to
[2:24:16]
having him explain why he
[2:24:18]
couldn't take time off his busy
[2:24:20]
schedule to come and listen to
[2:24:22]
us in person. That to me is
[2:24:25]
troubling. But I just hope that
[2:24:28]
the new chief understands and
[2:24:30]
values the bravery of the
[2:24:33]
minneapolis fire department. How
[2:24:35]
smart and wise you are. You're a
[2:24:37]
great, great group of people. My
[2:24:43]
expectation for him while he's
[2:24:44]
here is to provide the training
[2:24:46]
and expertise as needed so that
[2:24:49]
as t next chief comes
[2:24:51]
internally, comes from within,
[2:24:53]
has ridden the rigs with you,
[2:24:54]
slept with you, ate with you,
[2:24:56]
fought firesith you. That is
[2:24:58]
so important. I hope that can be
[2:25:00]
overcome with this outside
[2:25:00]
chief. But I will be voting for
[2:25:04]
him because I'm relying on your
[2:25:06]
expertise that you know what's
[2:25:08]
best for your department. Thank
[2:25:08]
you.
[2:25:13]
» Couil member stevenson.
[2:25:14]
» Thank you, council president.
[2:25:15]
I want to echo it's really weird
[2:25:18]
that he's not here. What's more
[2:25:21]
important than being here right
[2:25:22]
now? This is -- ie never
[2:25:25]
applied for a job that I didn't
[2:25:26]
want to sit on in the
[2:25:27]
discussions about whether I got
[2:25:28]
it or not. Yeah. I came inhere,
[2:25:32]
you know, knowing I was going to
[2:25:34]
vote yes. And now him not being
[2:25:37]
here is something that's really
[2:25:38]
disturbing to me. And kind of
[2:25:40]
making me want to change my vote
[2:25:41]
a litt bit. Yeah. I have
[2:25:45]
questions that I wanted to ask
[2:25:47]
him. Does he plan on moving here
[2:25:49]
full-time with his family? We h
[2:25:53]
really here full-time and he
[2:25:56]
didn't work out really well. So
[2:25:57]
I wanted to know that. Yeah, I
[2:26:06]
wanted to make cle to him in
[2:26:07]
person that gender
[2:26:11]
discriminaon in a department
[2:26:12]
is unacceptable and he needs to
[2:26:13]
be on the lookout for that and
[2:26:16]
needs to be laser focused on
[2:26:18]
that and learn from his previous
[2:26:21]
experience. I never thought we
[2:26:24]
shouldave gone outside of the
[2:26:25]
department personally. I didn't
[2:26:26]
think we needed to spend money
[2:26:28]
to go look for somebody. Outside
[2:26:32]
of the department. I think we've
[2:26:33]
got great firefighters. Yeah. So
[2:26:38]
those are my concerns. Things
[2:26:40]
that I really like about him.
[2:26:42]
his work in oakland with mental
[2:26:44]
health response I think is super
[2:26:47]
valuable. Super important for
[2:26:48]
our context here. I think the
[2:26:50]
fact that he has such strong
[2:26:52]
union support is really
[2:26:53]
incredible. And it's good and
[2:26:58]
that has swayed my decisionery
[2:26:58]
significantly. Yeah. I was
[2:27:03]
impressed with him personally.
[2:27:05]
so yeah, I guess all this being
[2:27:07]
said is that he will get my vote
[2:27:11]
today. But I have some serious
[2:27:13]
concerns given today in
[2:27:15]
particular, and I will want to
[2:27:16]
speak with him in person and
[2:27:19]
communicate those concerns. But
[2:27:23]
we need leadership in public
[2:27:24]
safety in this city. We don't
[2:27:26]
have a permanent police chief.
[2:27:28]
we don't have a permanent
[2:27:29]
commissioner of public safety.
[2:27:33]
we currently don't have a
[2:27:34]
permanent fire chief. And so we
[2:27:38]
need some permanence in our
[2:27:40]
public safety apparatus. And I
[2:27:42]
was personally previously
[2:27:47]
impressed with mr. Freeman, and
[2:27:49]
I was really impressed by the
[2:27:51]
support that he got from the
[2:27:53]
union. So I will be voting yes.
[2:27:57]
» Council member chowdhury.
[2:28:04]
council member shaffer.
[2:28:09]
» I enjoyed also my time with
[2:28:10]
dr. Freeman. One thing that
[2:28:13]
stands out to me when I asked
[2:28:14]
him to describe what kind of
[2:28:16]
leadership that he holds, he
[2:28:19]
really used two words. He said I
[2:28:22]
am a servant leader. That's my
[2:28:23]
style of leadership. And the
[2:28:26]
word servant has a negative
[2:28:28]
connotation sometimes. But it's
[2:28:29]
the basis of service, right? I
[2:28:31]
don't just look out for my own
[2:28:33]
needs, but I'm working. You
[2:28:35]
know, my mission is to look out
[2:28:38]
through the members that are
[2:28:39]
around me. The needs of my team.
[2:28:41]
not just my own. And so to me
[2:28:44]
this is one of the most
[2:28:46]
effective kinds of leaders that
[2:28:47]
you can have. Who is willing to
[2:28:50]
lay down their perspective and
[2:28:52]
listen to somebody else. Who is
[2:28:55]
willing to consider all options
[2:28:58]
and the importance of a team's
[2:29:00]
perspective. And then the second
[2:29:01]
word, though, is leadership.
[2:29:03]
every team needs a leader. Fire
[2:29:07]
crews know that day in and day
[2:29:09]
out. You don't have a leader,
[2:29:10]
you're in trouble. Right? And so
[2:29:14]
I feel like dr. Freeman is ready
[2:29:16]
to lead. And bringing in
[2:29:20]
somebody from the outside, you
[2:29:22]
know, a leader is unafraid to
[2:29:24]
address issues within the team
[2:29:25]
that need to be addressed. And
[2:29:28]
just be able to really whatever
[2:29:30]
they may be, right? And I think
[2:29:33]
I'm really excited -- not I
[2:29:36]
think, I know. I'm excited that
[2:29:38]
he will be and chose those words
[2:29:42]
in his description of his
[2:29:43]
leadership to me. So I trust
[2:29:45]
him. I'm going to be watching
[2:29:46]
for that. I'm going to be
[2:29:48]
cheering him on. Because I also
[2:29:50]
communicated the importance of
[2:29:51]
time right now in our city
[2:29:53]
around trust in our public
[2:29:54]
safety leadership. You know,
[2:29:56]
it's a critical time. And I
[2:29:58]
tried to impose on him that, you
[2:30:01]
know, you really might have a
[2:30:03]
little extra pressure on you,
[2:30:04]
right? Because of what we've
[2:30:06]
gone through. And that's not --
[2:30:08]
shouldn't be taken as a
[2:30:10]
negative, it's just we care. We
[2:30:12]
care about our residents. We
[2:30:14]
care about our team members. We
[2:30:16]
care our leaders are
[2:30:17]
demonstrating what it means to
[2:30:20]
be at the top spot what
[2:30:21]
everybody else on the bottom is
[2:30:23]
doing. So I'm excited to support
[2:30:25]
him today. And I also want to
[2:30:27]
publicly thank you. The
[2:30:28]
leadership of the union for
[2:30:30]
being here and your leadership
[2:30:31]
throughout this process. It
[2:30:33]
matters. And it mattered to our
[2:30:35]
council in our decisionmaking.
[2:30:36]
thanks.
[2:30:38]
» Council member chowdhury.
[2:30:41]
» Thanks, president payne. I
[2:30:46]
had a good opportunity to speak
[2:30:50]
with dr. Freeman. We spoke for
[2:30:52]
over an hour. It was really,
[2:30:54]
really helpful to kind of just
[2:30:55]
get to know him and then also
[2:30:57]
take a look at the letters of
[2:31:01]
recommendation that are pretty
[2:31:04]
broad. We kind of just got right
[2:31:06]
to the heart of issues facing
[2:31:09]
the fire department in the city
[2:31:11]
of minneapolis. We talked about
[2:31:13]
how we have been fighting each
[2:31:14]
year to try to get the fire
[2:31:17]
alerting system and have not
[2:31:18]
been able to get it, and how
[2:31:19]
that's something that I need him
[2:31:21]
to commit to working on. We
[2:31:24]
talked about how our fire
[2:31:26]
department for yearsas faced
[2:31:31]
$5 million to $6 million overage
[2:31:33]
year after year because we are
[2:31:35]
just not investing enough in
[2:31:37]
this department. I want to see
[2:31:40]
more investment within the fire
[2:31:41]
department and that he's going
[2:31:41]
to need to fight for that and
[2:31:43]
fight really, really hard.
[2:31:46]
because there were opportunities
[2:31:48]
the last five years when we were
[2:31:50]
in a better financial position
[2:31:51]
to get that and it didn't
[2:31:51]
happen. And we can't keep on
[2:31:57]
avoiding making these
[2:32:00]
investments, especially in a
[2:32:02]
time where our firefighters are
[2:32:04]
expected to go to even more
[2:32:08]
calls, an unprecedented amount
[2:32:10]
of calls that just keep growing
[2:32:14]
amount of staff. And I also
[2:32:15]
chatted with him about the
[2:32:17]
capital investment budget. I was
[2:32:19]
like yeah we need to see some
[2:32:22]
capital investment requests to
[2:32:24]
improve the fire stations. This
[2:32:25]
is where the firefighters live.
[2:32:27]
so we got right into the heart
[2:32:27]
of it. I really appreciated a
[2:32:30]
lot of his responses and h
[2:32:31]
he's thinking about it. He seems
[2:32:34]
like a very strong change agent
[2:32:43]
as it comes to big organizations
[2:32:45]
and local government and has a
[2:32:46]
track record of it. Every time I
[2:32:48]
asked him a question about how
[2:32:50]
he would think through some of
[2:32:51]
these issues, he was able to
[2:32:53]
cite different instances that
[2:32:54]
came to mind. And that was
[2:32:56]
really, really valuable. I also
[2:33:02]
care a lot about what the people
[2:33:04]
who do the work within the
[2:33:06]
department have to say. And
[2:33:08]
there's been resounding support
[2:33:09]
for him from there. And then he
[2:33:13]
also highlighted to me when he
[2:33:15]
was becoming the fire chief I
[2:33:18]
believe in oakland. The union
[2:33:23]
there at the time did not
[2:33:25]
support him. And he highlighted
[2:33:30]
that same leader now is a city
[2:33:33]
council member in oakland and w
[2:33:38]
so I think that just speaks a
[2:33:39]
lot to the work and the trust
[2:33:41]
building that happened. I also
[2:33:43]
shared how important it is for
[2:33:47]
us to recruit women, people of
[2:33:50]
color, people from our
[2:33:52]
community, and also show deep
[2:33:56]
care for our lgbtqia community
[2:33:59]
and gender expansive community.
[2:34:01]
and he shared about his work
[2:34:02]
that he's led nationally around
[2:34:08]
ib, and the fact that he
[2:34:11]
co-founded a group I believe in
[2:34:14]
oakland fire for women and
[2:34:17]
non-binary firefighters, which I
[2:34:17]
was like, wow. This is the type
[2:34:22]
of inclusivity we need. And he
[2:34:25]
had measurable ways of also h
[2:34:30]
he was able to change standards
[2:34:31]
so it was eier for
[2:34:33]
firefighters t come into the
[2:34:37]
department and g started. So
[2:34:37]
appreciated that conversation.
[2:34:40]
with him. And we have a lot of
[2:34:42]
work to do. And so I will be
[2:34:45]
supporting him tay and excited
[2:34:45]
to do so.
[2:34:48]
» Council member chughtai.
[2:34:50]
» Thank you, mr. President. And
[2:34:54]
I would be remiss if I didn't
[2:34:57]
make mention of this here today.
[2:35:00]
but you know, I think words are
[2:35:01]
really, really important. And I
[2:35:07]
appreciate the answer that dr.
[2:35:11]
freeman gave me about his
[2:35:13]
commitment to being re in
[2:35:13]
minneapolis. But actions matter
[2:35:18]
so much more. And I see three
[2:35:22]
actions here today that stand
[2:35:23]
out to me. First, actions matter
[2:35:31]
and I see several members of the
[2:35:38]
firefighters local 82 here today
[2:35:41]
representing the members of the
[2:35:43]
department. Because it's
[2:35:44]
important. That's why you made
[2:35:46]
the time to be here today. And I
[2:35:47]
really appreciate that. Thank
[2:35:48]
you. Second, I see the
[2:35:51]
commissioner in the room. I
[2:35:55]
really appreciate as someone who
[2:35:57]
is going to be overseeing -- who
[2:36:01]
currently oversees the
[2:36:02]
department and will continue to.
[2:36:04]
and the new fire chief is going
[2:36:05]
to be a part of your leadership
[2:36:07]
team. It means a lot to me that
[2:36:09]
you are here in the chambers and
[2:36:11]
you are demonstrating that this
[2:36:12]
is importantnd you're taking
[2:36:14]
it seriously. That means a lot
[2:36:18]
to me. Thank you to local 82 and
[2:36:21]
to the commissioner for making
[2:36:24]
the time to be here because it's
[2:36:26]
consequential. And jus as
[2:36:30]
importantly, the third action
[2:36:33]
that stands out to me is that
[2:36:35]
dr. Freeman himself is not here.
[2:36:37]
in fact, he's not in the city.
[2:36:39]
he's not in the state. He's not
[2:36:40]
in the country. He's in saudi
[2:36:42]
abia. That is just -- that is
[2:36:48]
important to me. It stands out
[2:36:50]
to me about what matters, what's
[2:36:55]
prioritized and what isn't. I
[2:36:56]
hope in the actions that he will
[2:36:58]
demonstrate as a new leader of
[2:37:01]
the departmenthat it will show
[2:37:03]
me a different version of dr.
[2:37:05]
freeman. And I sincerely hope
[2:37:08]
that for the sake of the
[2:37:09]
department and the sake of our
[2:37:12]
residents. Thank you, mr.
[2:37:13]
president.
[2:37:14]
» Council member vetaw.
[2:37:15]
» Thank you, president payne.
[2:37:17]
colleagues, I just wanted us to
[2:37:19]
take a moment to thank our
[2:37:22]
assistant chiefs, melanie rucker
[2:37:28]
and wes van vickel for the
[2:37:31]
service they stepped up after
[2:37:33]
chief tyner left. They have
[2:37:35]
really been holding down the
[2:37:37]
fire department doing a
[2:37:38]
fantastic job. They have both
[2:37:40]
been in here before us many
[2:37:42]
times giving us presentations
[2:37:43]
and walking us through a lot of
[2:37:45]
the things going on behind the
[2:37:47]
scenes. Chief rucker reached out
[2:37:48]
about the equipment. We got
[2:37:51]
$500,000 worth of new equipment
[2:37:52]
for the fire department. A bunch
[2:37:56]
of new jaws of life. And I got
[2:37:58]
to go a test out some. Council
[2:38:00]
member shaffer was there also.
[2:38:01]
some of the new equipment. And I
[2:38:04]
just think it's important for us
[2:38:06]
to just shout out the folks who
[2:38:08]
stepped up during this search
[2:38:10]
period and who've done a great
[2:38:12]
job leading the fire department
[2:38:14]
during this time while we have
[2:38:16]
been recruiting a new chief. So
[2:38:19]
thank you to those two chiefs
[2:38:21]
for their immense service and
[2:38:23]
the work that they've done and
[2:38:24]
continue to do. And I certainly
[2:38:30]
hope to see them continue in
[2:38:31]
those roles and working on
[2:38:32]
behalf of our fire department
[2:38:34]
and the people of minneapos.
[2:38:36]
» I second that.
[2:38:40]
» Seeing no one else left in
[2:38:43]
queue, I'll ask the clerk to
[2:38:46]
call the roll.
[2:38:47]
» Council member warren.
[2:38:48]
» Aye.
[2:38:48]
» Shaffer.
[2:38:49]
» Aye.
[2:38:50]
» Chughtai.
[2:38:51]
» Nay.
[2:38:51]
» Whiting.
[2:38:52]
» Aye.
[2:38:53]
» Chowdhury.
[2:38:54]
» Aye.
[2:38:55]
» Stevenson.
[2:38:56]
» Aye.
[2:38:57]
» Rainville.
[2:38:57]
» Aye.
[2:38:58]
» Vetaw.
[2:38:59]
» Aye.
[2:39:00]
» Palmisano.
[2:39:01]
» Aye.
[2:39:02]
» Chavez. >> no.
[2:39:03]
» Vice president osman.
[2:39:05]
» Aye.
[2:39:06]
» President payne.
[2:39:06]
» Aye.
[2:39:07]
» There are 10 ayes and two
[2:39:09]
nays.
[2:39:10]
» Hat carries and that
[2:39:13]
completes the phse report and
[2:39:15]
all the reports of our standing
[2:39:17]
committees. The next order of
[2:39:21]
business is notice of ordinance
[2:39:27]
introductions. We have three
[2:39:29]
today. Amending provisions
[2:39:31]
related to the commercial hood
[2:39:32]
and exhaust cleaning program.
[2:39:35]
second, council member warren
[2:39:36]
give notice of intent to
[2:39:37]
introduce at the next regular
[2:39:39]
meetin the subject matter of an
[2:39:40]
ordinance amending the planning
[2:39:42]
and development code relating to
[2:39:44]
ensuring the accountability of
[2:39:46]
the minneapolis public housing
[2:39:48]
authority. Finally, council
[2:39:51]
member warren gives notice of
[2:39:53]
intent to introduce at the next
[2:39:57]
regular meeting -- conducting
[2:39:58]
elections to the neighborhood
[2:40:00]
revitalization program policy
[2:40:01]
board. These nices are hereby
[2:40:04]
given and no further action is
[2:40:05]
required at thisime. The next
[2:40:08]
order of business is the
[2:40:09]
introduction a referral
[2:40:10]
calendar. We have fr items
[2:40:10]
today. First pursuant to notice,
[2:40:15]
council members chavez, myself,
[2:40:17]
wonsley and warren move to
[2:40:19]
introduce an ordinance amending
[2:40:20]
the liquor and beer code for
[2:40:22]
first reading and referral to
[2:40:27]
business, housing and zoning
[2:40:27]
committee. Requires a dress
[2:40:32]
code. Second, pursuant to
[2:40:36]
notice, council member chavez
[2:40:38]
and stevenson introduce
[2:40:38]
ordinance amending provisions of
[2:40:40]
the code related to noise
[2:40:43]
regulations to remove irrelevant
[2:40:45]
content, organize structure in a
[2:40:47]
more logical format, add a
[2:40:51]
clause relating to sound motion
[2:40:54]
sensors on private property.
[2:40:57]
third, pursuant to notice,
[2:40:58]
council members shaffer and
[2:40:59]
rainville move to introduce the
[2:41:01]
subject matter of an ordinance
[2:41:03]
amending the license and busy
[2:41:04]
regulations code for first
[2:41:06]
reading and referral to the
[2:41:08]
business, housing and zong
[2:41:09]
committee. Amending repealing
[2:41:10]
and adding provisions related to
[2:41:13]
rental hallsnd places of
[2:41:15]
entertainment to create eve
[2:41:16]
center license allowing for the
[2:41:18]
hosting of both public and
[2:41:19]
private events. And finally,
[2:41:23]
pursuant to notice council
[2:41:24]
members wonsley, chavez,
[2:41:26]
whiting, and chowdhury move to
[2:41:27]
introduce the subject matter of
[2:41:28]
an ordinance amending thenimal
[2:41:30]
care and conol code for first r
[2:41:34]
public health, safety and equity
[2:41:35]
committee removing conditions
[2:41:36]
and restrictions on pet
[2:41:38]
ownership solely due to a prior
[2:41:40]
conviction for certain felonies.
[2:41:40]
may I have a motion to approve
[2:41:42]
these introductions?
[2:41:43]
» So moved.
[2:41:44]
» Second.
[2:41:45]
» Seeing no one else in queue,
[2:41:47]
I'll ask the clerk to call the
[2:41:50]
roll.
[2:41:50]
» Council memr warren.
[2:41:51]
» Aye.
[2:41:52]
» Shaffer.
[2:41:52]
» Aye.
[2:41:54]
» Chughtai.
[2:41:54]
» Aye.
[2:41:55]
» Whiting.
[2:41:57]
» Aye.
[2:41:57]
» Chowdhury.
[2:41:58]
» Aye.
[2:41:59]
» Stevenson.
[2:41:59]
» Aye.
[2:42:01]
» Rainville.
[2:42:01]
» Aye.
[2:42:02]
» Vetaw.
[2:42:02]
» Aye.
[2:42:04]
» Palmisano.
[2:42:04]
» Aye.
[2:42:05]
» Chavez.
[2:42:06]
» Aye.
[2:42:06]
» Osman.
[2:42:07]
» Aye.
[2:42:09]
» Payne.
[2:42:09]
» Aye.
[2:42:10]
» There are 12 ayes.
[2:42:12]
» That motion carries and those
[2:42:14]
are referred to the appropriate
[2:42:16]
committees. We have one
[2:42:17]
resolution on our agenda today
[2:42:18]
really to recognizing the 2026
[2:42:21]
minneapolis aquatennial. Do
[2:42:22]
council members have any
[2:42:23]
comments to add? Seeing none,
[2:42:26]
may I have a motion to adopt
[2:42:28]
this resolution?
[2:42:29]
» So moved.
[2:42:29]
» Second.
[2:42:30]
» The clerk will call the roll.
[2:42:32]
» Warren.
[2:42:33]
» Aye.
[2:42:34]
» Shaffer.
[2:42:34]
» Aye.
[2:42:35]
» Chughtai.
[2:42:35]
» Aye.
[2:42:36]
» Whiting.
[2:42:37]
» Aye.
[2:42:37]
» Chowdhury.
[2:42:38]
» Aye.
[2:42:38]
» Stevenson.
[2:42:39]
» Aye.
[2:42:40]
» Rainville.
[2:42:40]
» Aye.
[2:42:41]
» Vetaw.
[2:42:42]
» Aye.
[2:42:43]
» Palmisano.
[2:42:43]
» Aye.
[2:42:45]
» Chavez.
[2:42:45]
» Aye.
[2:42:45]
» Vice president osman.
[2:42:46]
» Aye.
[2:42:47]
» President payne.
[2:42:47]
» Aye.
[2:42:48]
» There a 12 ayes.
[2:42:49]
» That carries and that
[2:42:50]
resolution is adopted. Our next
[2:42:53]
order of business is unfinished
[2:42:55]
business. As I said at the top
[2:42:58]
we have two items today. Item 1
[2:43:02]
relates to a proposed contract
[2:43:05]
with skydio inc. At our last
[2:43:09]
meeting we considered a couple
[2:43:11]
of different motions both of
[2:43:13]
which failed. This remains
[2:43:14]
before us for action mr. Clerk,
[2:43:16]
do you have any guidance on what
[2:43:18]
a proper motion would be to
[2:43:20]
dispose of this item?
[2:43:23]
» Mr. President, with your
[2:43:26]
indulgence ait I thought I'd
[2:43:27]
talk about what a tie ve does.
[2:43:29]
there's been some confusion
[2:43:31]
about that.
[2:43:31]
I wanted to explain that a tie
[2:43:34]
vote for council has both
[2:43:36]
procedural and legal effect.
[2:43:40]
under -- it doesn't determine
[2:43:45]
the outcome of the underlying
[2:43:48]
oposition that's before you.
[2:43:50]
the city charter, our
[2:43:52]
constitution, provides that a
[2:43:53]
council must act by a defined
[2:43:56]
majority vote combined with a
[2:43:58]
official record to be presented
[2:44:00]
to the mayor for his
[2:44:01]
consideratio a tie vote does
[2:44:02]
not achieve those outcomes or
[2:44:04]
requirements of the arter, and
[2:44:06]
therefore I not dispositive. It
[2:44:09]
defeats the motion but it
[2:44:10]
doesn't dispose of the
[2:44:13]
proposition. When there is a tie
[2:44:15]
vote, the council may make a
[2:44:18]
different vote. So you asked,
[2:44:19]
mr. President, what would be a
[2:44:21]
proper course of action. A
[2:44:23]
proper course o action would be
[2:44:25]
a motion to achieve the opposite
[2:44:27]
of the motion that failed
[2:44:28]
because of a tie vote. A motion
[2:44:31]
to refer to postpone, to
[2:44:33]
continue, any of those
[2:44:35]
procedural motions would keep
[2:44:35]
the motion alive. The underlying
[2:44:39]
proposition alive subject to a
[2:44:40]
final dispositive vote or if the
[2:44:43]
motion to approve ils, a
[2:44:45]
motion to disapprove. Often
[2:44:48]
you'll hear the clerk say when
[2:44:50]
there's a tie vote, move to
[2:44:51]
delete from the agenda. The
[2:44:53]
standard is the motion that
[2:44:55]
would be dispositive because it
[2:44:56]
would elimina the matter from
[2:44:59]
the uncil's further
[2:45:01]
consideration. A motion to
[2:45:02]
delete fm the agenda or a
[2:45:04]
motion to deny if the motion to
[2:45:07]
approve is tied or if a motion
[2:45:10]
to deny fails -- I hope that's
[2:45:12]
helpful to the body.
[2:45:15]
» We have a few people in
[2:45:17]
queue. Not sure if it's for
[2:45:19]
questions or motions. I will
[2:45:22]
recognize council member vetaw.
[2:45:23]
» Thank u, president payne. I
[2:45:25]
actual wouldlike to make a
[2:45:29]
motion. Consideration of
[2:45:31]
proposed contract with skydio
[2:45:31]
back to staff.
[2:45:33]
» Second.
[2:45:33]
» During lengthy discussions at
[2:45:35]
both meetings of the public
[2:45:38]
health, safety and equity
[2:45:38]
committeend the city council
[2:45:40]
meeting, council members raised
[2:45:43]
several serious questions about
[2:45:44]
both skydio as the vender and
[2:45:47]
implications of using drones as
[2:45:53]
first responders. I hope the
[2:45:55]
motion gives time and
[2:45:58]
potentially moves aath
[2:46:00]
forward.
[2:46:00]
» Council member vetaw has
[2:46:02]
moved to refer this item back to
[2:46:06]
staff. It has been second. I
[2:46:08]
will recognize council member
[2:46:09]
chavez.
[2:46:10]
» Thank you, council president
[2:46:10]
payne. So we're just speaking on
[2:46:13]
numberne of the motions or
[2:46:15]
both?
[2:46:15]
» Numbe one at the moment.
[2:46:21]
» Which is the skydio one?
[2:46:23]
» Correct.
[2:46:24]
» Iill save my energy.
[2:46:25]
» With that, we have a motion
[2:46:28]
to refer item number 1, skydio
[2:46:30]
back to staff. Seeing no one
[2:46:32]
else left in queue, I will ask
[2:46:35]
the clerk to call the roll.
[2:46:37]
» Warren.
[2:46:38]
» Aye.
[2:46:38]
» Shaffer.
[2:46:40]
» Aye.
[2:46:41]
» Chughtai.
[2:46:41]
» Aye. Sorry.
[2:46:43]
» Girl, you seconded it.
[2:46:44]
» I know. I'm sorry.
[2:46:48]
» Ouncil member whiting.
[2:46:49]
» Aye.
[2:46:50]
» Chowdhury.
[2:46:50]
» Aye.
[2:46:51]
» Stevenson.
[2:46:51]
» Aye.
[2:46:52]
» Rainville.
[2:46:53]
» Aye.
[2:46:54]
» Vetaw.
[2:46:55]
» Aye.
[2:46:55]
» Palmisano.
[2:46:56]
» Aye.
[2:46:57]
» Chavez.
[2:46:58]
» Aye.
[2:46:58]
» Vice president osman.
[2:47:00]
» Aye.
[2:47:00]
» President payne.
[2:47:01]
» Aye.
[2:47:01]
» There are 12 ayes.
[2:47:03]
» That carries. Next, as we
[2:47:09]
discussed at the top, item two
[2:47:12]
resulted in a tie vote. It
[2:47:13]
should have ended on our agenda
[2:47:15]
for the following meeting which
[2:47:17]
would have been june 11th and it
[2:47:19]
was not on our agenda. And so
[2:47:21]
that's why we are taking it up
[2:47:23]
here. And we did have a
[2:47:25]
discussion with the clerk around
[2:47:26]
what happened to make that not
[2:47:29]
happen. I believe it was
[2:47:31]
partially an error as a result
[2:47:33]
of the clerk doesn't get to take
[2:47:35]
vacations anymore because he
[2:47:36]
wasn't there for that meeting.
[2:47:38]
but that's a joke.
[2:47:40]
[laughter]
[2:47:43]
» This item, we brought back to
[2:47:46]
unfinished business for this
[2:47:47]
meeting to make sure we have
[2:47:50]
consisncy around how these
[2:47:51]
motions are dealt with when
[2:47:52]
there are a tie. So we do have
[2:47:56]
to dispose of this and to make a
[2:47:57]
motion to do as much. So I will
[2:48:01]
recognize council member chavez
[2:48:02]
to either make a motion or ask a
[2:48:03]
question.
[2:48:04]
» Well I'm going to make a
[2:48:05]
motion to return this item back
[2:48:08]
to author. And if the author
[2:48:09]
wants to work on it further,
[2:48:11]
that would be great as well. But
[2:48:13]
I also want to make comments on
[2:48:15]
process because I pointed this
[2:48:16]
out last cycle and I brought
[2:48:17]
this up. And last cycle we were
[2:48:19]
told this item was dead. The
[2:48:21]
previous one was dead. I watched
[2:48:24]
a recording yesterday. So I just
[2:48:25]
want to make it clear that we
[2:48:27]
were told that last item was
[2:48:29]
dead and it was still on the
[2:48:31]
agenda. So I brought up the
[2:48:33]
concern that this item wasn't
[2:48:35]
automatically put on the agenda.
[2:48:38]
so council member payne, was it
[2:48:40]
your -- because you're not
[2:48:41]
explaining what happened.
[2:48:43]
» Thank you, council member
[2:48:45]
chavez, for being able to
[2:48:46]
instead of jokingly explain it.
[2:48:50]
mr. Carl was not at the meeting
[2:48:52]
where this resulted in a tie. As
[2:48:55]
a result -- and I don't remember
[2:48:58]
if it wams. Geyserhat was
[2:49:02]
working or mr. Dailior. There
[2:49:07]
was a disconnect within the
[2:49:09]
clerk's office.
[2:49:10]
» Thank you. Next time I just
[2:49:12]
ask that you explain what
[2:49:14]
happened because the public
[2:49:15]
maybe didn't think you added it
[2:49:17]
to the agenda. I don't want to
[2:49:19]
be a clerk myself. I want to be
[2:49:20]
able to have it on the agenda
[2:49:23]
and make sure procedures
[2:49:24]
followed equitably.
[2:49:25]
» Thank you for that
[2:49:26]
clarification and question. And
[2:49:28]
actually, that brings another
[2:49:29]
question, mr. Clerk. We have
[2:49:33]
some very small number of items
[2:49:35]
that require a nine-vote
[2:49:37]
majority to pass. And if they
[2:49:39]
failed,s that similar to what
[2:49:42]
we're dealing with here?
[2:49:45]
» Mr. President, no. In that
[2:49:47]
case, there's a define majority
[2:49:49]
threshold that has to be
[2:49:51]
achieved and it failed. So the
[2:49:53]
item itself fails. The fact that
[2:49:55]
motion ends in a tie, means it
[2:49:57]
didn't achieve a majority. A m
[2:50:01]
majority is always required to
[2:50:03]
takeaction. If you don't
[2:50:05]
achieve that majority, the item
[2:50:11]
mean the opposite outcome is
[2:50:13]
achieved. So if a motion is made
[2:50:16]
to approve a contract, as an
[2:50:18]
example, and the result of 6-6,
[2:50:23]
the council didn't by a majority
[2:50:24]
achieve the motion to approve.
[2:50:25]
but the outcome didn't
[2:50:27]
automatically become a failure.
[2:50:28]
you'd need to introduce a motion
[2:50:30]
to deny the contract and then
[2:50:31]
vote on that motion. Because the
[2:50:33]
motion in fnt of the body was
[2:50:35]
to approve. We act on the mion
[2:50:36]
in front of the body. If tie
[2:50:40]
vote doesn't achieve the
[2:50:42]
opposite outcome.
[2:50:43]
» Thank you for that
[2:50:44]
clarification. Council member
[2:50:45]
chavez made a motion to return
[2:50:46]
to author. And I feel like I saw
[2:50:48]
you wanting to make a comment
[2:50:50]
about that.
[2:50:51]
» Just to clarify, return to
[2:50:53]
author is specific and only tied
[2:50:55]
to returning ordinances. That's
[2:50:57]
why I said earlier delete from
[2:50:59]
agenda is return to everything
[2:51:01]
else. Return to author is only
[2:51:03]
for ordinances.
[2:51:05]
» Council member chavez, would
[2:51:05]
you like to modify your motion?
[2:51:08]
» Yeah. That's fine.
[2:51:10]
» Delete.
[2:51:11]
» Is there a second for the
[2:51:12]
moon to delete from the
[2:51:13]
agenda?
[2:51:14]
» Second.
[2:51:14]
» Second.
[2:51:15]
» The clerk will call the roll.
[2:51:18]
» Council member vetaw is on
[2:51:19]
queue.
[2:51:20]
» No, I'm not. He answered it.
[2:51:23]
» Council member warren.
[2:51:23]
» Aye.
[2:51:24]
» Shaffer.
[2:51:25]
» Aye.
[2:51:27]
» Chughtai.
[2:51:27]
» Aye.
[2:51:28]
» Whiting.
[2:51:29]
» Aye.
[2:51:30]
» Chowdhury.
[2:51:30]
» Aye.
[2:51:32]
» Stevenson.
[2:51:32]
» Aye.
[2:51:33]
» Rainville.
[2:51:34]
» Aye.
[2:51:35]
» Vetaw.
[2:51:35]
» Aye.
[2:51:36]
» Palmisano.
[2:51:37]
» Aye.
[2:51:39]
» Chavez.
[2:51:39]
» Aye.
[2:51:40]
» Vice president osman.
[2:51:41]
» Aye.
[2:51:41]
» President payne.
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» Aye.
[2:51:43]
» There are 12 ayes.
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» Hat carries. And that
[2:51:48]
completes all of the business on
[2:51:51]
our agenda. Except we do have a
[2:51:53]
closed session. Before I
[2:51:54]
recognize the attorney and we
[2:51:56]
recess for closed session. And
[2:51:58]
actually what I will do is take
[2:52:00]
a little pulse. Do we want to
[2:52:01]
have a lunch recess or power
[2:52:04]
through?
[2:52:05]
» Yes.
[2:52:05]
» Power through.
[2:52:06]
» I'm hearing people want
[2:52:08]
lunch.
[2:52:08]
» Yes, lunch.
[2:52:09]
» Eah.
[2:52:09]
» Yeah.
[2:52:17]
» So before recognize the
[2:52:19]
attorney and we recess for
[2:52:20]
closed session, I will ask if
[2:52:21]
there are any announcements from
[2:52:24]
council members. Are there any
[2:52:25]
annocements? Council member
[2:52:27]
whiting.
[2:52:29]
» Thank you, president payne.
[2:52:31]
as you all, I'm going to say it
[2:52:33]
every single time until
[2:52:34]
august 8th. Southside be
[2:52:36]
outside. We are having a
[2:52:38]
community barbecue. I hope all
[2:52:40]
of you to be there. 12:00 to
[2:52:45]
4 p.m., washington high school,
[2:52:48]
august 8th. Thank you.
[2:52:49]
» Council member vetaw.
[2:52:49]
» Thank you, president payne. I
[2:52:51]
just wanted to thank the
[2:52:54]
organizers of the very first
[2:52:57]
northse jazz and culture
[2:52:58]
festival. It was literally the
[2:53:00]
hottest day of the summer. But
[2:53:02]
it was packed. The northside
[2:53:04]
showed up, had a great time. We
[2:53:07]
got to listen to some amazing
[2:53:09]
local artists, including council
[2:53:13]
member warren's daughter, anaya.
[2:53:15]
she got to sing a song that she
[2:53:17]
doesn't normally get to sing.
[2:53:19]
and she was so proud of herself
[2:53:21]
and I was proud of her also. She
[2:53:23]
was fantastic and so were the
[2:53:27]
other artists. I also thank the
[2:53:34]
park board. They let us use
[2:53:36]
their building and parking lot
[2:53:38]
in a way I've not seen on the
[2:53:40]
northside. It was a great
[2:53:42]
festival. A great turnout.
[2:53:44]
wonderful energy. Just people
[2:53:45]
out enjoying the northside. We
[2:53:47]
were by the river. By the old
[2:53:50]
river view theater. Lots of
[2:53:53]
memories shared with folks. It
[2:53:55]
was the first annual. And I'm
[2:53:56]
already looking forward to the
[2:53:58]
second annual.
[2:53:58]
» Couil member chowdhury.
[2:54:00]
» Thank you, president payne.
[2:54:05]
july 31st, august 1st, and
[2:54:08]
august 2nd, is nokomis days
[2:54:11]
2026. Be sure to come out and
[2:54:14]
support our local businesses and
[2:54:15]
community in the 12th and 11th
[2:54:19]
ward. There are events for
[2:54:22]
families and people of all ages.
[2:54:25]
there's wonderful sales.
[2:54:30]
competitions, prizes, parking
[2:54:33]
lo parties, free concerts, you
[2:54:35]
name it. Doing what minnesotans
[2:54:39]
love to do which is go outside,
[2:54:42]
eat good food, listen to good
[2:54:45]
music. There's a lot of
[2:54:47]
southside we outside moments
[2:54:49]
happening in the upcoming
[2:54:51]
weekend.
[2:54:52]
» Council member chavez.
[2:54:53]
» Thank you, council president
[2:54:55]
payne. I want to invite the
[2:54:57]
community to the park art fair
[2:54:59]
from august 1st to august 2nd.
[2:55:01]
each day from 10 a.m. To 5 p.m.
[2:55:05]
» Council member warren.
[2:55:07]
» Thank you, council president
[2:55:10]
payne. I so much enjoyed myself
[2:55:12]
at the northside's first annual
[2:55:14]
jazz festival. It was an amazing
[2:55:16]
time. So if you missed it, we'll
[2:55:20]
be back again next year. I do
[2:55:24]
want to also shout out that this
[2:55:27]
is black business week, which is
[2:55:29]
the kickoff to black business
[2:55:30]
month. So go out and shop with
[2:55:35]
your black businesses. And yeah,
[2:55:37]
support the businesses. I think
[2:55:39]
we were at the coliseum, myself
[2:55:42]
and council member chavez the
[2:55:43]
other day. And our mayor learned
[2:55:46]
how to braid. So I am excited to
[2:55:50]
see what is to come from that
[2:55:51]
experience. So he was excited to
[2:55:53]
learn how to do it because he's
[2:55:55]
like I got two daughters, I want
[2:55:56]
to learn how to braid. Go out,
[2:55:59]
shop, support black businesses.
[2:56:02]
enjoy some of this good weather.
[2:56:04]
national night out is
[2:56:04]
approaching us. So I know a lot
[2:56:07]
of those festivals and
[2:56:09]
activities are going on next
[2:56:10]
week. Get out, connect with your
[2:56:12]
community members. You know,
[2:56:15]
laugh, talk, eat some good food.
[2:56:17]
some people do big cookings for
[2:56:19]
national night out. And
[2:56:20]
sometimes you just get hotdogs
[2:56:22]
and a bag of chips. Either way
[2:56:24]
it goes, it's all in love. Be
[2:56:27]
grateful. Be thankful. Celebrate
[2:56:28]
each other. And stay plenty
[2:56:31]
hydrated. That's all I got to
[2:56:34]
say. The end. >> mr. Carl.
[2:56:37]
» I put on my sparkly tie for
[2:56:39]
this. I wanted to offer a brief
[2:56:43]
comment about today's vote on
[2:56:44]
the democracy center. As the
[2:56:46]
city's chief elections official,
[2:56:48]
I'm very excited to see that
[2:56:50]
project move forward. I'm
[2:56:52]
anticipating to be in that new
[2:56:55]
facility to welcome voters for
[2:56:59]
the 2028 presidential election.
[2:57:01]
it's going to improve our
[2:57:03]
service to the entire community
[2:57:06]
and increase accessibility to
[2:57:08]
the ballot box to all voters. I
[2:57:11]
know they're eager to join the
[2:57:14]
longfellow neighborhood and we
[2:57:16]
want to be good neighbors. I do
[2:57:20]
appreciate sincerely council
[2:57:21]
pushing that project forward.
[2:57:23]
the city and this council have
[2:57:25]
always invested in elections so
[2:57:27]
that every minneapolis voter has
[2:57:29]
the equal, free, and fair right
[2:57:31]
to cast their ballot in every
[2:57:34]
election, and that matters. As
[2:57:38]
council member palmisano said, I
[2:57:40]
would like to think this is a
[2:57:42]
reason for the entire cit to
[2:57:43]
celebrate. Thank you for that
[2:57:45]
vote.
[2:57:46]
» Council member palmisano.
[2:57:47]
» Thank you. I'll echo clerk
[2:57:50]
carl's comments. I cannot wait
[2:57:53]
to move into the new democracy
[2:57:54]
center and cast my vote there in
[2:57:57]
the next presidential election.
[2:57:58]
but meantime, I had a terrific
[2:58:01]
experience at the early vote
[2:58:03]
center at 908 east hennepin this
[2:58:07]
week. I see other stickers here
[2:58:08]
that showed that others have
[2:58:10]
also gone to east hennepin to
[2:58:13]
cast their ballot early for the
[2:58:15]
primary that is august 11th.
[2:58:18]
there are few excuses to not be
[2:58:19]
able to find a way to vote.
[2:58:21]
there are pop-up locations
[2:58:25]
happening before the primary. I
[2:58:28]
had a wonderful voter forum. A
[2:58:32]
forum in my ward last week with
[2:58:34]
the director of election
[2:58:35]
services, catie smith and her
[2:58:38]
deputy john martin. And it was
[2:58:40]
really great to see and get
[2:58:46]
assurance I think for residents
[2:58:47]
across the city that were there
[2:58:49]
on our election security and all
[2:58:50]
of the different checks and
[2:58:52]
balances that go into voting in
[2:58:53]
our city. So a plug for voting
[2:58:57]
early in the primary. It was a
[2:58:59]
wonderful, easy experience. I
[2:59:01]
was in and out in five minutes.
[2:59:04]
but for wanting to smile to
[2:59:08]
everybody in that center, and I
[2:59:10]
look forward to what's next.
[2:59:14]
» Council member shaffer.
[2:59:14]
» Yeah, just wanted to
[2:59:16]
highlight two events. One
[2:59:19]
downtown is the savannah bananas
[2:59:22]
this weekend. Sold out event.
[2:59:23]
there's going to be a lot of
[2:59:25]
street activities. Blocks
[2:59:27]
closed. You can participate in
[2:59:28]
the fun even if you didn't get
[2:59:30]
tickets. And secondly, we all
[2:59:31]
had a hand in bringing back the
[2:59:34]
uptown art festival and that is
[2:59:36]
this weekend starting friday
[2:59:38]
from 1:00 to 7:00. Saturday,
[2:59:40]
10:00 to 6:00. And sunday, 10:00
[2:59:44]
to 4:00. I encourage you if you
[2:59:46]
have time, come back and see it.
[2:59:49]
it's good to see it bk in the
[2:59:52]
community. It's going to be kind
[2:59:55]
of the same footprint for those
[2:59:57]
of you who may have attended
[2:59:58]
some of the lopit events in the
[3:00:01]
mall and kind of the southern
[3:00:07]
lake of the isles parkway.
[3:00:09]
entertainment, concerts and food
[3:00:11]
trucks. So lots of fun.
[3:00:13]
» Council member rainville.
[3:00:15]
» Thank you. I have two
[3:00:18]
announcements. The first one, it
[3:00:21]
donned on me this last week I've
[3:00:23]
been doing a lot of community
[3:00:25]
outreach with our police
[3:00:26]
department. As we all know
[3:00:28]
public safety is an important
[3:00:30]
issue. For the first time ever
[3:00:31]
in ward 3, and perhaps in the
[3:00:34]
city of minneapolis, the
[3:00:35]
inspectors are both women. So
[3:00:37]
both the first precinct and the
[3:00:41]
second precinc inspectors, the
[3:00:42]
top cops, are women. So that
[3:00:45]
just shows how far we've
[3:00:47]
advanced in public safety. And
[3:00:49]
the second announcement is I'll
[3:00:51]
let latrisha vew carry forth
[3:00:54]
on it. But I did want to
[3:00:56]
announce the passing of past
[3:01:00]
city council member, john.
[3:01:03]
» I was just going to say the
[3:01:06]
same thing. North minneapolis
[3:01:07]
lost a resident, a previous ward
[3:01:12]
4 council member, john served in
[3:01:13]
the 70s on the minneapolis city
[3:01:15]
council and then went on to be
[3:01:18]
the county commissioner. And we
[3:01:20]
will miss john. John was a
[3:01:24]
gigantic man with gigantic
[3:01:26]
hands. I don't even know how
[3:01:28]
tall he was. Maybe 6'5", 6'6".
[3:01:36]
jon was very gentle. Very smart.
[3:01:38]
head so many projects. We went
[3:01:40]
to dinner last week and we were
[3:01:42]
talking about some of the work
[3:01:43]
he's done in minneapolis and in
[3:01:45]
hennepin county. John will be
[3:01:46]
truly missed. His family still
[3:01:48]
lives in ward 4. I just wanted
[3:01:51]
to haves all take a brief
[3:01:54]
moment of silence for john
[3:01:57]
darrus, former city council and
[3:01:58]
count commissioner.
[3:02:06]
» Thank you.
[3:02:08]
» Council member warren.
[3:02:08]
» I'm sorry. I forgot an event.
[3:02:12]
this today, we're going to miss
[3:02:14]
it because it's at 1:00. The vip
[3:02:17]
showing. But this weekend,
[3:02:19]
friday, saturday, and sunday,
[3:02:22]
sister act 2 will be at
[3:02:25]
lundstrom performing arts. And
[3:02:27]
my daughter is starring in that
[3:02:30]
play. It is her last musical
[3:02:32]
before she goes off to school in
[3:02:34]
new york. They're doing it. This
[3:02:37]
is lundstrom's big productions.
[3:02:39]
they're so much fun. If you
[3:02:41]
haven't been to a production at
[3:02:44]
lundstrum, you are missing out.
[3:02:46]
they're in the ward, in the 5th
[3:02:48]
ward. I know council member
[3:02:50]
vetaw has got some family
[3:02:51]
members who performed at
[3:02:53]
lundstrom. Lots of the kids
[3:02:54]
there are absolutely amazing and
[3:02:56]
the staff is great. They do a
[3:02:58]
lot of great work with those
[3:03:00]
kids so I wanted to shout them
[3:03:02]
out and that sister act 2 is
[3:03:04]
showing this weekend there.
[3:03:05]
» Council member shaffer.
[3:03:06]
» One clarification. It's not
[3:03:08]
starting tomorrow. But it's next
[3:03:09]
friday. One weekend out if I
[3:03:13]
wasn't clear for both events.
[3:03:15]
» All right. Tt is all of our
[3:03:20]
announcements. With that, we've
[3:03:21]
completed all of the items on
[3:03:22]
our agenda and will now consider
[3:03:24]
the request for a closed session
[3:03:25]
which is to receive a briefing
[3:03:28]
on the litigation matter listed
[3:03:30]
on the agenda. Before I move to
[3:03:31]
close the meeting, I'll
[3:03:33]
recognize the city attorney to
[3:03:34]
provide the legal basis for the
[3:03:36]
requested closed session.
[3:03:37]
» President payne, the next
[3:03:39]
item on the agenda is a
[3:03:41]
litigation matter of assad
[3:03:45]
awaijane et al versus bittell et
[3:03:47]
al. You lawyers wish to provide
[3:03:50]
a briefing on this matter.
[3:03:53]
minnesota statute section 13d.05
[3:03:57]
subdision 3b. The couil may
[3:03:59]
upon a proper motion close the
[3:04:01]
meeting for purposes of
[3:04:05]
attorney-client information. In
[3:04:06]
considering the motion, the
[3:04:07]
council should weigh the right
[3:04:08]
of the public to know what its
[3:04:11]
gornment is doinggainst the
[3:04:13]
need of confidentiality of
[3:04:15]
discussions with its attorneys.
[3:04:16]
» Thank you, mr. City attorney
[3:04:20]
meeting as authorized under the
[3:04:22]
open meeting law, specifically
[3:04:25]
minnesota state statute section
[3:04:27]
13d.05 for the purpose of
[3:04:28]
receiving a briefing on the
[3:04:30]
litigation matter ofssad
[3:04:33]
awaijane et al versus bittell et
[3:04:35]
al. May I have a second to that
[3:04:36]
motion?
[3:04:36]
» Second.
[3:04:37]
» The clerk will call the roll.
[3:04:39]
» Council member warren.
[3:04:40]
» Aye.
[3:04:41]
» Shaffer.
[3:04:41]
» Aye.
[3:04:43]
» Chughtai.
[3:04:43]
» Aye.
[3:04:44]
» Whiting.
[3:04:45]
» Aye.
[3:04:46]
» Chowdhury.
[3:04:46]
» Aye.
[3:04:47]
» Stevenson.
[3:04:48]
» Aye.
[3:04:49]
» Rainville.
[3:04:49]
» Aye.
[3:04:50]
» Vetaw.
[3:04:51]
» Aye.
[3:04:52]
» Palmisano.
[3:04:53]
» Aye.
[3:04:54]
» Chavez.
[3:04:54]
» Aye.
[3:04:55]
» Vice president osman.
[3:04:56]
» Aye.
[3:04:57]
» President payne.
[3:04:57]
» Aye.
[3:04:58]
» There are 12 ayes.
[3:04:59]
» That carries. For the viewing
[3:05:02]
public, I will note that t
[3:05:04]
broadcast for this meeting will
[3:05:06]
continue. And reconvene after
[3:05:08]
we've concluded the closed
[3:05:10]
session. We will start the
[3:05:11]
closed session at 1:30.
[3:08:16]
[ the minneapolis city council
[3:08:17]
is in recess ]
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[ the minneapolis city council
[3:32:02]
is in recess ]
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[ the minneapolis city council
[3:49:39]
is in recess ]
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[ the minneapolis city council
[4:00:45]
is in a closed session, this
[4:00:47]
meeting will resume when the
[4:00:49]
closed session ends ]
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[ the minneapolis city council
[4:12:30]
is in a closed session, this
[4:12:32]
meeting will resume when the
[4:12:36]
closed session ends ]
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[ the minneapolis city council
[4:32:22]
is in a closed session, this
[4:32:24]
meeting will resume when the
[4:32:28]
closed session ends ]
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[ the minneapolis city council
[4:44:01]
is in a closed session, this
[4:44:03]
meeting will resume when the
[4:44:06]
closed session ends ]
[5:07:35]
[ the minneapolis city council
[5:07:36]
is in a closed session, this
[5:07:38]
meeting will resume when the
[5:07:40]
closed session ends ]
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[ the minneapolis city council
[5:18:49]
is in a closed session, this
[5:18:55]
meeting will resume when the
[5:18:57]
closed session ends ]
[5:29:36]
[ gavel ].
[5:29:37]
» The time is now 3:08 and the
[5:29:42]
city council has reconvened
[5:29:45]
following our closed session.
[5:29:50]
» Council member warren.
[5:29:51]
» Aye. Present.
[5:29:52]
» Shaffer.
[5:29:53]
» Present.
[5:29:53]
» Council member wonsley is
[5:29:55]
absent. Council member chughtai.
[5:29:57]
» Present.
[5:29:57]
» Whiting.
[5:29:58]
» Present.
[5:29:59]
» Chowdhury.
[5:29:59]
» Present.
[5:30:00]
» Stevenson.
[5:30:01]
» Present.
[5:30:01]
» Council member rainville is
[5:30:03]
absent. Vetaw.
[5:30:03]
» Present.
[5:30:04]
» Palmisano.
[5:30:05]
» Present.
[5:30:05]
» Council member chavez.
[5:30:06]
» Present.
[5:30:07]
» Vice president osman is
[5:30:08]
absent. President payne.
[5:30:09]
» Present.
[5:30:09]
» There are 10 members present.
[5:30:11]
» Let the record reflect we
[5:30:13]
have a quorum. With that, we've
[5:30:18]
completed our business today.
[5:30:22]
with nothing to come before the
[5:30:24]
council, without objection, this
[5:30:26]
meeting is adjourned.