[0:37] The City Clerk and I are on the same wavelength. It's just like the Member Mass and Radar and the

[0:44] Federal Member of that is. She always anticipates every step I make other way.

[0:49] But welcome everyone. It's October 21st. We're ready for Halloween, I think. Hopefully we won't

[0:57] howling antics today, but you never know, something early might be fun.

[1:03] City Clerk, if you're ready, could we have roll call, please?

[1:06] Council members, Dean Atale.

[1:07] Here.

[1:08] Narveyes.

[1:09] Painter.

[1:10] Here.

[1:10] Vice Mayor La Rose.

[1:13] And we have noticed we've moved our pledge to the beginning of our meetings to the day,

[1:18] made sense.

[1:19] And if I may ask Mayor Jill Techlet to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

[1:38] bill for the bill for the bill.

[1:48] She'll always be my mayor.

[1:49] That's why I was referred to as Mayor Jill.

[1:54] City Clerk are there any changes to the agenda or supplemental reports?

[1:58] There are no changes to the agenda, Mayor.

[2:00] We do have supplemental reports for item five public comment.

[2:03] We have communications received from Jim Maccomerra and John Bristle.

[2:08] Thank you very much.

[2:10] Council for our presentations, our special presentations today.

[2:16] We will start by proclaim October as Domestic Violence Awareness Month.

[2:24] City of Napa Proclamation, Domestic Violence Awareness Month, October 2025, whereas every

[2:30] year since 1989, the United States Congress has proclaimed October as Domestic Violence Awareness

[2:36] Month.

[2:37] Renewing our country's commitment to standing against Domestic Violence, meeting the needs

[2:41] of survivors, and we're as domestic violence awareness month is about raising awareness and

[2:46] uplifting the needs, voices, and experiences of survivors.

[2:50] This year's national campaign of with survivors always calls on us to explore what it means

[2:55] to be in partnership with survivors toward safety, support, and solidarity.

[3:00] And we're as data from the United States Center of Disease Controls 2022 National Intimate

[3:06] partner in sexual violence survey, the NIPS-VS, shows that nearly one in three women and one

[3:13] in four men in the U.S. report experiencing severe physical violence from an intimate

[3:18] partner in their lifetime.

[3:20] While nearly half of U.S. adults have experienced psychological aggression, such as humiliating

[3:26] or controlling behaviors from their partner and...

[3:29] Whereas domestic violence can cause severe physical and emotional distress for survivors,

[3:33] or more likely to become suicidal and lose economic opportunities from the abuse.

[3:39] Children who wish witness abuse are likely to experience abuse themselves, and are often

[3:44] used to control other family members, which can have lifelong impacts on their mental health.

[3:49] Domestic violence contributes to over 10% of all intentional violent deaths, not including

[3:53] suicide, in cost America over $8 billion a year, and...

[3:59] by serving October as domestic violence a war in this month. We show that our community is committed

[4:05] to supporting survivors and working toward prevention of domestic violence among future generations.

[4:12] Now, therefore, be it resolved that I scot casually mayor of the city of Napa along with a

[4:17] city council to hear by proclaim October 2025 as domestic violence awareness month and encourage

[4:24] all residents of Napa to honor domestic violence survivors in those who served them during this month

[4:33] into out the year. They did October 21st, 2025. And I think we have with us joining us today

[4:41] is Tracy Lamb. She's the Executive Director of a Napa Emergency Women Services Domestic Violence

[4:47] and Sexual Abuse Services. Tracy, if you would like to say a few things for cheer if you with us

[4:53] I will come down and present you with your proclamation, please, we moved you to the center.

[5:03] Thank you, mayor, suchly, and members of the council. Until Teckel may be here mayor, but she's one of my board members, and so I'm really proud to have her with me here today, and also our Tico-Poneys with here, and also board members of news, and we have many, also friends in our community, so I just wanted to recognize that they were here as well. I know that was a lot of words to read, and I want to say I appreciate you reading every one of them. I'm the executive director of news, and we celebrate, I don't know if you call it,

[5:32] We acknowledge domestic violence awareness month every year, and, um, unfortunately, this year has been a difficult year, um, in the issue of domestic violence in our community.

[5:45] So, um, I just want to thank you for recognizing the month.

[5:49] This year, our campaign is, um, stand with survivors always, and we want to explore what it means to be true partners with survivors in their pursuit of safety and support and solidarity.

[6:01] And we also recognize that survivors in the LGBTQ plus community and our immigrant communities have faced escalating threats and fears for their safety

[6:13] and whether at work or school or when attempting to seek vital supportive services, we ask you in joining in caring for all survivors and help us to send the message that we seek a safe and supportive community and we're working for that every day at news.

[6:29] Our services are 100% confidential, all survivors are welcome, and we promise we will not share their information with anyone without their written informed consent.

[6:41] Everything that we offer is free and voluntary.

[6:44] We, in this community, have suffered some terrible losses in due to domestic violence.

[6:50] And one of those hit very close to home, one of our staff members had a cousin who was murdered,

[6:59] who was pregnant with twins, and it just reminds us all how serious domestic violence can be.

[7:06] I just heard a statistic yesterday that said half of all children under the age of six will be exposed to a domestic violence incident.

[7:13] and at some during that very young point in their lives and that those exposures can have

[7:20] lifelong implications. So we know it affects everyone. I want to invite everyone to help us to

[7:27] stand with survivors by taking part Thursday night. We're holding a vigil at 6 p.m. at Veterans Memorial Park.

[7:35] And you showing out will take an action that shows that you support survivors. If you or someone

[7:40] you know is in an unsafe relationship or just struggling with something that sounds like domestic

[7:46] violence or sexual abuse, our help line is 247. It's 255 news and anyone can call. We're

[7:53] available in English and Spanish and we just want to thank you in our entire community for

[7:58] the support that you always have given news. Thank you.

[8:00] Thank you, Tracy. Thank you for all you do, Tracy. If you get crazy, if you get kind of around

[8:05] behind if you're willing to, and Jill, would you join us for a picture?

[8:23] We'll get him together.

[8:30] Thank you.

[8:32] Thank you very much.

[8:37] Thank you.

[8:39] Thank

[8:45] you very

[8:54] much.

[9:01] Our next order of business is to proclaim October as Napa Pedestrian Safety Month.

[9:08] So, Council, your next proclamation.

[9:12] National Pedestrian Safety Month, October 2025.

[9:16] Whereas, the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

[9:20] recognizes October as National Pedestrian Safety Month.

[9:25] And, whereas, on average, a pedestrian was killed every 72 minutes and injured every 8 minutes

[9:30] in traffic collisions nationwide in 2023.

[9:33] And. We're as the city of Napa General Plan Transportation Element identifies a policy to work towards safer streets to reduce and eventually eliminate fatal and severe injury collisions among vehicles pedestrians and bicyclists and.

[9:48] Whereas pedestrian transportation is an integral part of the multimodal transportation system plan by federal state regional and local government agencies.

[9:56] and pedestrian safety is an essential part of every day.

[10:01] We're as walking supports personal physical and environmental benefits, such as increased health and fitness, reduced traffic congestion, and can foster vibrant and livable streets.

[10:12] And we're as city council has identified roads and traffic safety as a city council priority, and supports the countywide vision zero goal of eliminating traffic collisions, resulting in severe injuries or fatalities in Napa County by 2030.

[10:27] And whereas the city of Napper urges drivers to look for pedestrians slow down and incorporate

[10:33] pedestrian awareness into their driving routines and encourages everyone to redirect

[10:38] rededicate themselves to enjoying the benefits of walking and ensuring the safety of pedestrians

[10:42] in our community. Now therefore be resolved that I Scott said we wear the city of Daapo along with

[10:49] the Nappa City Council. We'll do here by proclaim in October 25th as national pedestrian safety

[10:54] I went to the city of Napa, dated October 21, 2025.

[10:59] And I believe with us tonight, we have Dan

[11:03] Wilkowski.

[11:04] He's the chairperson for our bicycle

[11:07] pedestrian advisory commission.

[11:09] So if Dan is here, thanks to see you again.

[11:15] All

[11:18] right.

[11:21] What the listening public to be able to hear me, right?

[11:24] Any idea on what cows get?

[11:25] I'm Chair of the Bike Investor and Advisory Commission.

[11:31] We call it Beepack.

[11:32] I'm speaking in support of the parking machine you have in front of you.

[11:37] You mentioned the Vision Zero and the Proclamation.

[11:40] I'm going to work by city staff and Beepack

[11:44] are helping improve pedestrian safety in the city

[11:47] and reduce collisions.

[11:50] And some of the projects we've recently done you probably know about

[11:52] because people complain about traffic being redirected

[11:56] and so forth.

[11:57] But Salvador Avenue is part of a complete streets project.

[12:01] And Browns Valley Rehab project has included sidewalk gap

[12:07] closures, some high visibility crosswalk striping,

[12:10] and the installation of these rapid flashing beacons

[12:13] to alert people that pedestrians are crossing.

[12:16] We have projects on Coom Street and Roads in the Westwood neighborhood

[12:20] that provide elements to enhance pedestrian safety and community connectivity.

[12:26] To reduce traffic accidents, the city has recently decreased speed limits downtown and on the Jefferson

[12:33] corridor.

[12:35] The upcoming road diet plan on Lincoln Avenue hopes the slow traffic and provide a center

[12:41] left-turn lane for cars and bicycles.

[12:43] The pedestrian crossings will be easier because the double thread of crossing, you know, four lanes of traffic will be reduced to one line of traffic in each direction.

[12:55] The BPAC, our Advisory Committee Commission, has recently submitted a letter to support a grant for doing similar work on Amola.

[13:04] You know, parts of Amola don't have much curbs or sidewalks in South Wales.

[13:08] Anyway, in closing, the BPAC is participating in the Napa County's ongoing active transportation plan.

[13:14] That will combine pedestrian and bicycling at the one active transportation plan.

[13:21] A draft of that is available on the county's website, and it's available for everybody to come in on.

[13:28] That's all I have. Thank you.

[13:29] Thank you, Dan. If you could also come up behind the dice. We'd like to take a photograph of the

[13:40] audience we have

[13:43] uh...

[13:43] more in trip

[13:45] re-trip well-do-marine on the issue of traffic safety and slow down

[14:01] thank

[14:04] you

[14:05] thank you

[14:06] thank you

[14:14] well i think i will allow that

[14:18] please

[14:20] re-trip and i just wanted to give a shout out for some additional really good work that has been done

[14:26] I don't see anyone here from the Napa Bike Coalition, the Napa County Bike Coalition,

[14:30] but their work is tireless for bikes and pedestrian and community engaging people to get out on

[14:37] their bikes. We really appreciate that. Also, some other things that may not have been mentioned,

[14:42] the daylighting project with the red curbs. I'd love to know how many red curbs have been painted

[14:48] and the rectangular flashing beacons. The city has installed more than 50 of those. It's incredibly

[14:55] important for pedestrian safety and the other thing is the red light cam.

[15:00] Program. Please, well, keep your foot on the gas for that. Please, don't be discouraged by

[15:07] naysayers on next door. I think the technology is incredibly important, particularly for pedestrians

[15:13] at those intersections. So, if there are opportunities to look for more technology, I would encourage

[15:19] us to do that. Well, slowdown app has started with a mission for traffic calming and residential

[15:25] neighborhoods, you know, we veered off of that to talk a lot about traffic safety on the

[15:30] high-endry network and maybe the better message is to work toward next year for pedestrian

[15:35] safety in our residential neighborhoods. I mean, this is where people are walking, you know,

[15:40] the schools, the parks, people out walking their dogs and their kids and whatever we can

[15:46] do to bring more safety to the neighborhoods would be really appreciated. Thanks.

[15:49] Thank you, Marie. Thank you very much.

[15:57] Next our agenda is time for public comment on non agenda items during the public comment portion of the meeting.

[16:03] The public is invited to address the council on any item with this subject matter jurisdiction of the council.

[16:09] Please focus your comments on either past actions taken by the council or proposed future actions to be taken by the council.

[16:16] However, if the subject of the public comment is not on the agenda, state law is strictly limits the council's ability to respond

[16:23] at this meeting, and we do take public comment for things that maybe aren't past actions

[16:31] or future actions.

[16:32] So, but it's the opportunity to speak to the Council in our community.

[16:36] So, city clerk, do you have any speaker cards?

[16:37] I do, Mayor.

[16:38] I have one from Lee Ann Harman,

[16:48] Lee Ann Harman, 1031, the Cormick Lane, in April of 2023, and again

[16:53] last month, the Moose Lodge, at 3275 Browns Valley Road, we're notified and writing that there

[16:59] no record with the City of Napa authorizing their RS7 single-family residential parcels to

[17:06] be operated as a club or lodge or for the outdoor use of sound amplification and loudspeakers.

[17:12] From 2021 until the first notification, they held live outdoor bands and many loudspeaker and

[17:20] amplification events. Many of their events started on Thursday afternoons and didn't conclude

[17:26] until Sunday afternoon. Two weeks after receiving their second notification, they hosted

[17:32] yet another event, at least their fourth for 2025, including live outdoor amplification

[17:38] music, and advertised to the public as cocktail and beer for sale in a residential area.

[17:46] Napa City of Code 17.08.020 clubs and lodges are a conditional use that requires a use permit,

[17:55] which they do not have.

[17:58] Code 8.08.010.

[18:00] It is unlawful for any person as part of a commercial use

[18:04] to operate a loudspeaker or amplification system that can be heard outside any building

[18:10] and let's say use permit has been obtained.

[18:13] They do not have.

[18:14] The moose lodge were also notified last month.

[18:17] The city is aware of substantial grading and use since September of 2024

[18:22] of an access road on a continuing landslide location, which two date has no permits, or

[18:31] improvement plans, which have been issued to reestablish a safe, vehicular path to their property.

[18:38] As such, the Moose Lodge shall cease utilizing the access path of which they continue to use to this day every day.

[18:46] The solution already exists, code 17.52.320, uses that do not conform to the regulations

[18:55] of the zoning district RS7, which they are located while reducing, controlling, or eliminating

[19:02] complex arising from the presence of non-conforming uses and providing for the gradual

[19:09] elimination of incompatible or nuisance uses.

[19:12] The win-win solution is easy.

[19:16] In force code 17.52.320,

[19:20] the Moon Slodge sell their two residential single families' own parcels.

[19:26] They get an obscene amount of money from a housing developer.

[19:29] They buy in the county where their activities can be legally conforming

[19:33] and nap a county.

[19:34] We, in the capacity, can get additional housing.

[19:37] Thank you.

[19:38] Thank you.

[19:43] You have any additional speaker cards?

[19:45] anyone in the audience wish to address the city council on public comment. Okay. And the last

[19:53] speakers comments I know we are familiar with that and city staff I know is working.

[20:03] Thank you. Item 6 on our agenda, our consent calendar. Consent calendar items are considered routine. And maybe you have proved by a single vote of the council. However, members of the public of city council may request that a consent item be pulled from the fored discussion. There are seven consent items identified on our agenda tonight. Item 6A through 6G is a request to pull consent calendar item, or is there any other item?

[20:29] motion to approve.

[20:35] I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendars item 6A through 6G.

[20:39] A second, we have motion by Council Member Painor, second by Council Member Dina Talle,

[20:44] all in favour, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

[20:48] Thank you. We'll be right along. We do have an administrative report.

[20:55] This is item 7A. The goal is to adopt a resolution,

[20:59] and approving revisions to the compensation for the city attorney and approving revisions

[21:05] to the compensation and benefits for our police chief.

[21:10] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[21:11] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[21:12] Heather Ruiz, Human Resources Director, in accordance with California Government Code, adjustments

[21:17] made to salaries of public officials must be approved in an open session and a company

[21:22] and oral report.

[21:23] So that is what I'm here to do.

[21:25] We're recommending salary adjustments for both the city attorney and the police chief

[21:28] classifications based on the following.

[21:31] For the city attorney, subsequent to the retirement of our previous long term city attorney,

[21:36] the city did a recruitment for the position, which was unsuccessful in identifying a candidate.

[21:42] Subsequent did that.

[21:43] The position has been filled through contract with BBK law firm, and we have had our interim

[21:49] city attorney, Chris Diaz.

[21:50] Council is now interested in reopening the city attorney recruitment, which caused us to

[21:54] look at the salary compared to our comparable market. We found the position was significantly

[22:00] below the comparable market and recommending an adjustment to be in line with the city's compensation

[22:07] philosophy goal, which is to be within 5% of that median of the market. As for the police chief,

[22:12] the salary was reviewed based on the new agreement with the police management unit, which council

[22:16] just approved on consent.

[22:20] Looking at the comparison between the police captain and the police

[22:23] We identified a compaction issue, which means they're very close together, it's not a significant differential.

[22:30] So, based on that, we are recommending a salary adjustment to give a reasonable differential between the police captain and the chief.

[22:37] There are several other adjustments also recommended to the benefits for the police chief, which relate to the PERS,

[22:43] cost share auto allowance language and holiday pay. These are based on consistency with the

[22:49] police management unit and in line with our comparable market as well to be competitive. Therefore,

[22:55] staffs recommending Council adopt a resolution, approving the revisions to the compensation

[22:58] for the city attorney, and approving revisions to the compensation and benefits for the police chief.

[23:05] Thank you. I'm Jeremy Public comment on this item. I have no cards.

[23:10] The public comment, back to Council,

[23:15] we can answer any questions, move the item.

[23:18] I know we've had an extensive go of it for a while with recruits and retention and trying

[23:25] to stay compatible in the job market, and that's the reality of our today's world.

[23:32] So I do support these changes, so I'll leave it to one of my fellow council members to move

[23:38] item if they so choose. Make a motion to it. We have a motion by council member

[23:45] Navaya, seconded by Vice Mayor Loro Sol and favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any

[23:50] opposed? carries unanimously. Thank you, Heather. And the details are in the

[23:58] agenda packet if you want to release comb through them, but thank you for that.

[24:09] We

[24:11] hearing's items are considered routine and may be approved by a single vote of the council

[24:16] have remembers of the public or council may request the consent hearing item be pulled for

[24:21] discussion. There is one item on our consent hearing calendar for the meeting this afternoon

[24:26] item E a which is a sole array maintenance repair and active monitoring agreement is there a

[24:34] from the public or Council to pull this item. And this solar array is that the

[24:41] Lake Tennessee treatment plant in reservoir.

[24:46] I move approval of the consent hearing item.

[24:49] Okay, did I ask for public comment?

[24:51] I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I took, I took my head when you asked if there's any request

[24:55] to pull and I have no comment cards or requests.

[24:57] So we have a motion by by some of our laurels.

[25:00] Second, second by Council Member Dean and Talle Allen-Favor, aye, posed, carries unanimously.

[25:09] Item 9, this is a public hearing. Unapproved the first reading and introduction of an ordinance,

[25:17] Mending Napa Municipal Code Chapter 13.08, water, contamination, prevention, regulations, and

[25:24] determine that the actions authorized by this ordinance are exempt from sequa.

[25:30] So, first, we will have a report from City staff

[25:36] and the public hearing is open.

[25:46] No formal report was planned for this item.

[25:51] However, I can give a brief overview of this.

[25:55] It's an update to the municipal code that was a substantial change to these requirements by the state water resources control board that were adopted earlier this year, including in

[26:06] 84 page manual on new requirements for the backflow prevention or cross contamination prevention program and so our goal with this

[26:17] action before you today is to update the municipal code to reflect these new requirements

[26:24] as they are and I'll say that this way to keep things as reasonable as they can be in line

[26:32] with how we have administered this program through the past, which is that there are new requirements

[26:39] for surveys and going out and looking into residential and commercial properties, we would use

[26:49] the building process to essentially to trigger any requirement we have, and we know as there

[26:58] is an annual requirement for us to report backflow prevention devices, and they have to be tested

[27:04] annually. So if one of those devices is known to fail, that's a time that we would look at

[27:10] hey, the device needs to be in compliance with today's new requirements. And that could be,

[27:15] for example, a property that has a well on it now requires for certain an RP reduced pressure

[27:23] device. And historically it may have had just a double check valve. And so we would require

[27:30] now the new RP device in change for that, as an example of something that would trigger a change

[27:36] or an assessment from one form of protection, again based on the hazard that is on the property.

[27:44] A few things noticed are a well, then that can happen where it well is pumping into someone's

[27:52] private home area, or they use it to fill a pool, or they use it just for irrigation, should

[27:58] that flow back into the system. We would find that in our system and require that to be

[28:06] have an upgraded device on it to protect the public water supply system. And so any further questions

[28:15] or specifics? Thank you, Joy. This is a public hearing, so I have to have council for any

[28:21] Let's close yours.

[28:25] No, let's close yours.

[28:26] No, let's close yours.

[28:27] No, let's close yours.

[28:28] No, let's close yours.

[28:29] Thank you.

[28:30] So the public testimony is now open as anybody wish to address the council on this public hearing item.

[28:38] I have no cards.

[28:39] No cards.

[28:40] I'm going to approach approaching the podium.

[28:42] So I'll ask for a motion to close the public testimony.

[28:46] So moved by council in the last.

[28:48] Second by council mayor painter.

[28:49] Thank you.

[28:52] Now back to Council.

[28:55] Questions, and you might want to stay there, Joy.

[28:57] If you don't mind, or you can sit in the front row.

[29:04] Councillor Paineer.

[29:06] Thank you, Joy.

[29:06] I do have one question.

[29:08] Is this going to trigger the need to change the back flow devices on homes or residential services

[29:17] that are not unique the way described with the well or otherwise.

[29:20] In other words, are we going to see a lot of need for new equipment from residences?

[29:28] I'll see it over time.

[29:31] That's our goal with the program that there would be something else that triggers or a known

[29:35] hazard or a building permit.

[29:41] One example might be an expansion on a home or something that requires an increase size of the

[29:48] that would cause us to look at the requirements of that existing service. As you are likely

[29:56] well-versed, any new construction or any...

[30:00] New connection to the system automatically requires to meet today's requirements for backflow for prevention.

[30:06] Sure, but under normal circumstances, when you do the annual test, if you don't have these upgrades or changes, it's not necessarily going to trigger the need to install a new backflow device.

[30:18] It's if a device fails and needs repairs to it. That would be a time that we would require that upgrade.

[30:27] if there is, for instance, right now there are a number of properties that we do have identified

[30:34] that do have wells on the property that are used.

[30:37] Now if they can prove they have an air gap or something that is protective of the public

[30:41] system, there would be no requirement for it, but there are a number out there that have outdated

[30:47] protection devices that are required.

[30:50] Now they are considered high hazard, since it typically has a pump and has something that's

[30:55] pressurized that can flow back into the system.

[30:59] We don't know the quality of that water,

[31:01] and so our approach has been at the meter.

[31:05] Whatever happens on the private side happens there,

[31:08] but on the public side, we know what would come back into the system

[31:10] is going to be under our control,

[31:12] our sampling, our monitoring, and ensure public safety.

[31:15] Generally, we're not going to see a big peak in the need

[31:19] for new backflow devices.

[31:21] We're not going door to door and asking every single individual

[31:35] on the existing residential. I mean, I think that the commercial we understand, new residential,

[31:42] we can understand, but existing was a concern of mine as I read through this also. And then what was determined as high risk.

[31:52] I looked in the appendix D in the handbook to kind of, but they list mostly commercial uses

[32:00] and not residential.

[32:01] My interest was successfully dwelling in it.

[32:04] So if I want to put an ADU in, now that's going to trigger a risk assessment and it's

[32:10] going to require these additional backflow devices, air gaps, pressure reducer systems on the

[32:17] existing term.

[32:18] So that was my concern as the impacts on some of the existing houses.

[32:22] And I know I trust the water now, and it's not going to be out there with a whole new

[32:26] program to make these water, or these water service hazard assessments,

[32:33] I believe that.

[32:34] But I'm a little concerned in the future going on with this.

[32:37] But it's another one of those things that's going to drive up the cost.

[32:40] My question was a bathroom or a kitchen remodel.

[32:42] would a kitchen or bathroom remodel trigger these kind of assessments and requirements?

[32:52] Our approach would be, as planned, our approach is if the remodel is significant in size

[32:58] to where it would require fire sprinklers or a significant change to that existing water

[33:06] service, for example, an increased size to that water service, yes, that would require a change

[33:12] or fire sprinklers, which then a closed loop fire sprinkler system, they are starting to

[33:17] make open loop, that actually the water flows through there and then is used to flush toilets

[33:22] or is used in a different manner. But a closed loop system, as you can imagine, it's water

[33:27] sitting in a pipe system and it sits for days, months, years. That's something we need to protect

[33:35] from coming back into our public water supply.

[33:37] That would trigger.

[33:39] Yeah, most definitely in commercial systems.

[33:41] I used to open up those test valves on commercial systems.

[33:44] They didn't stink the whole neighborhood out pretty bad,

[33:46] but yeah, that's a close system.

[33:50] Well, good.

[33:51] I noticed some of the residential hazard

[33:53] you mentioned wells, but also listed in the ordinance

[33:56] as irrigation systems and solar collection systems too.

[34:01] So if I want to install solar on my existing

[34:04] residents, is that going to trigger this?

[34:08] The concept is a solar system that is heating the water.

[34:11] Again, that's water that is hot and flowing around intends to be-

[34:15] Not generating electricity.

[34:17] Intends to be on the ceilings or on roofs, so it's going to be under a higher pressure

[34:21] that then is, in most cases, meeting that 40-foot threshold, which would be another trigger.

[34:27] Again, more conducive to having a backflow, it's the name, back into the public side

[34:34] of the system.

[34:36] Thank you.

[34:37] Thank you.

[34:37] So that's the intent with that solar trigger that was what they had in mind in the

[34:42] handbook.

[34:44] And that's how we will interpret any driver for that.

[34:48] Thank you for your responses.

[34:50] For Council, though, when we talk about the 80Us and the cost, and we had talked about

[34:54] at some point maybe having a half a dozen completed 80Us.

[35:00] And see what the fee schedule, what it cost in fees versus square foot, I think somewhere down the road, it'd be nice to look at that.

[35:10] And see, because we hear it all the time, we get the phone call as well. I can't do an ADU, it just doesn't pencil out.

[35:16] So I'd like at some point to maybe see the numbers, what they actually are, if the lures was did an ADU, what it cost you and permits.

[35:25] You'll do a junior AD in your house and the easier to do.

[35:30] Thanks, Joy, that's what my concerns and my questions were about on the impacts to existing

[35:35] residential homes.

[35:38] I wouldn't think a bathroom remodel would trigger an enlarged meter or sprinklers.

[35:44] So hopefully if you want to redo your kitchen or your bathroom, you can get through the process.

[35:51] Anything else from Council on this, or I'd look for a motion

[35:58] or not?

[36:02] I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve Item 9A as presented.

[36:06] Motion by Councillor Panner.

[36:08] Second by Council on Device, all in favour?

[36:11] Any opposed?

[36:13] Here's an answer.

[36:14] Thank you, Joy.

[36:15] Thank you.

[36:15] Thank you for everything you do, protect in our water.

[36:25] Four or five?

[36:27] You're right.

[36:27] You're going to have any stories we want to tell.

[36:29] Comments by City Council or City Manager, none, none from this site.

[36:36] City Council.

[36:39] Councillor Paine.

[36:40] Thank you.

[36:41] I actually have two items to share.

[36:44] And two comments.

[36:45] The first is that last week, I'm a director on the Board of MCE.

[36:50] And for those who are familiar MCE is our source of renewable power.

[36:55] And it was a really interesting full day retreat.

[36:58] If anybody's interested in the details, please come see me, but there's a couple of things that I did want to share this year for the first time since I've been on that board.

[37:09] We got an actual report for the City of Napa in terms of what our participation in MCE has brought to us.

[37:16] And since we joined, which was 2016, so nine years.

[37:20] And in those nine years, there's been almost $3 million in energy efficiency rebates for residences and businesses for this community.

[37:28] already, 115 EV charging ports installed using $235,000 in rebates and over $282,000 in

[37:38] EV purchase rebates.

[37:40] That's money that goes to individuals who qualify and come qualified to purchase an

[37:45] EV.

[37:46] And EV.

[37:46] Excuse me, AV.

[37:48] Those are just a few highlights that I felt were really something to be proud of to share

[37:54] with you.

[37:55] And there's lots and lots of information from that retreat on many other topics, if it's

[38:01] something that interests you, please see me.

[38:04] The second thing was that I just wanted to remind everyone that this week, October 19th through

[38:09] 25th, is United Against Hate Week, and there was an event in Napa, the Napa day against

[38:17] hate on October 12th, and I just want to call out and thank Council Member Narvaya's for making

[38:22] such a heartfelt presentation and presentation of our

[38:26] proclamation, which we didn't read here.

[38:28] We chose to read it at that event and it was really

[38:32] powerful.

[38:33] So I want to say thank you to that.

[38:35] I'd also like to see if there's interest in adding

[38:39] the city's name to a really long growing list of cities

[38:43] that participate in the United Against Hate campaign.

[38:47] It's something that we could do.

[38:49] So my question might be, is that something

[38:51] that we need to put on a future agenda, or if we could even make that decision today, you know,

[38:58] I would certainly be in favor of doing that.

[39:00] Obviously this isn't something that we like to spend a lot of time on because we wish

[39:06] this was common sense, and that it would just be standard morals and ethics, but that's

[39:11] not really the world we live in today.

[39:14] So I'm really grateful for the work that we've done to support it and just want to see

[39:18] what the process might be to add our name

[39:21] to that list on United Against State Week.

[39:25] Thank you, Councillor.

[39:25] I think the question for city attorney.

[39:29] Well, Tiffany, I think, too.

[39:30] We do have policy on this on what we sign on with

[39:33] because I receive a lot of requests to sign off

[39:37] the very things and I know we have a policy under this.

[39:39] So it would probably if the policy allows the manager

[39:42] of the mayor to sign, we can definitely make that decision

[39:44] or if it requires a council vote.

[39:46] we could have to agenda as that, but I don't know that we're prepared to answer that question.

[39:51] Okay. Well, I just want to, you know, we can look at it for next counts meeting.

[39:55] Go to the website United Against Hate Week. You can see all of the cities that have signed on.

[40:00] This week, CalCities actually held a one hour forum to talk about it. So, CalCities is making an effort to just raise awareness that, hey, this is something that you could participate in.

[40:11] For me, I think it's kind of a no-brainer for us. I just wanted to make you aware that our name is not yet on that list.

[40:17] And if we could look at it, that'd be great.

[40:19] Yeah, I can take a look at that. And then if we need to take action, I'll have to bring it back to a future meeting, because it's non-agendized for it.

[40:28] Of course, of course.

[40:29] Thank you.

[40:30] We do have policy on that.

[40:32] Thank you.

[40:34] Nelson, remember we're else.

[40:35] Vice Mayor.

[40:37] I know we're going to acknowledge Paul Hicks in a second.

[40:39] I just wanted to take a moment too.

[40:41] Just acknowledge his work on the Civil Service Commission and in the community.

[40:44] I know there are several people in the audience who are here in memory of him in

[40:49] supportive of that years ago.

[40:52] He saw that napkinated to diverse fire economy.

[40:55] that we had all of our, our eggs in the wine basket. He put together a team to work on a business incubator project.

[41:02] I was involved with that in Jerry Hanson was as well. We ultimately were not successful in building it,

[41:08] but we did do a lot of groundwork, which I think really created a foundation for the work that we do today

[41:15] in our economic development department at the city and also at the chamber and throughout the valley,

[41:20] and Paul was absolutely the mastermind behind all of that. He gave a lot to our city.

[41:28] Thank you, Mary. Yes, it's difficult when we lose these

[41:33] our community members at all different capacities and involvement in our community. And Paul was one of those

[41:39] seven years on the Civil Service Commission and I know we worked with the chamber for a long time

[41:45] and I think I first met Paul when I ran for council in 2012 and interviewed with the with the

[41:52] He asked challenging questions, and he took his role very seriously, and we became friends.

[41:59] I don't believe I received the endorsement that year, but never held not against him.

[42:04] But truly admired the work that he did and the love he had for our community.

[42:12] So if there's no further business I'll ask that we share a moment of silence in memory of our friend Paul Hicks, as we close our meeting.

[42:31] Thank you very much.

[42:32] meeting adjourned.

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