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[2:42]
Good evening. This August 18th, 2026
board of alderman meeting is hereby
[2:47]
called to order. Is Pastor Dodson with
us?
[2:54]
Alman Earhart, if you would lead us in
an invocation in a moment followed by
[2:57]
the pledge of allegiance, which I'll
lead. Please stand.
[3:04]
» Thank you, Mayor. Excuse me.
[clears throat] Let us pray. Most
[3:06]
gracious God and our heavenly father,
our creator, our sustainer and redeemer,
[3:10]
we give you thanks, Lord, for this day.
Thank you, Lord, for the safety that we
[3:14]
experience in Olive Branch. Thank you
for our prosperity. And as we go forward
[3:18]
in all things each day, Lord, I just
pray that we would seek your wisdom and
[3:21]
your guidance whether we're running a
city, running a business, or running a
[3:24]
family because we know that all things
come from you and that uh we should do
[3:28]
all things to honor and glorify you with
our decisions. May the decisions we make
[3:33]
tonight uh be wise and pleasing in your
sight. Lord, thank you for the
[3:37]
forgiveness of sins and bless this
meeting. In Christ's name I pray. Amen.
[3:41]
» Amen.
[3:44]
I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[3:50]
republic for it stands one nation under
God indivisible with liberty and justice
[3:56]
for all. Thank you be seated.
[4:04]
Just a reminder for anyone who speaks
tonight, this meeting is streamed live
[4:09]
on the city's YouTube channel and also
archived for playback. And if you plan
[4:13]
to speak tonight, one of the blue
comment cards, you should fill one of
[4:16]
those out up on the rail uh at the front
of the courtroom and give that to the
[4:20]
clerk to my right, your left. Uh board,
and we should remember that when we're
[4:25]
speaking, our microphones should be on
green uh so that the audience can hear
[4:29]
what's being discussed.
Miss Stewart, would you conduct roll
[4:33]
call?
>> Audrey,
[4:36]
» here.
>> Collins
[4:38]
» here.
>> Dickerson
[4:39]
» here.
>> Yhart
[4:40]
» here. Gamage
>> here.
[4:42]
» Hamilton
>> here.
[4:44]
» Wallace
>> 100% present. So a quorum obviously
[4:48]
established.
Board you have before you the regular
[4:52]
minutes of the August the 4th 2026
meeting. Any comments, questions or
[4:59]
motion to approve those meetings
minutes.
[5:02]
» Motion to approve.
>> Motion to approve by Miss Hamilton. Is
[5:05]
there a second?
>> Second.
[5:07]
» Second. Mr. Collins. Any discussion?
All in favor?
[5:12]
» I.
>> All oppose. Motion carries.
[5:20]
» Break protocol and change locations just
for one second.
[5:40]
I'd like to ask our special Olympian
athlete, Joseph Tate, and his dad, Jose
[5:45]
Tate, to come forward with us, if you
will.
[5:57]
And Mr. Ed Crumper, are you planning to
present as well? Miss Diana Crumper,
[6:01]
come forward.
[6:11]
Yes, ma'am.
[6:26]
We are pleased to recognize our hometown
Olympian, our special Olympics athlete,
[6:31]
Joseph Tate, who on August, correction,
in the 2026
[6:37]
Olympic Games in Minnesota. He won not
one but two medals. He won a silver
[6:42]
medal in the 100 meter and the running
long jump. Is that right?
[6:48]
» And
and and the bronze medal
[6:52]
» in the 4x100 meter relay. So, these
games took place in Minnesota and we'd
[6:57]
like to recognize our hometown athlete.
I'd like to give you a memorabilia of
[7:02]
city hall and the crumpers have
something they'd like to share with you
[7:05]
as well.
>> Never seen anything like this before.
[7:18]
All of them up.
[7:30]
[snorts]
[applause]
[7:40]
Thank you brother
[8:03]
board. Also, I'm pleased to announce uh
there's not a gift to be handed because
[8:08]
the gift was wired to us, but uh our
friends Jim and Missy Flanigan have
[8:14]
donated 37,975.33
[8:20]
to the Lick Creek Conservatory for a
large B large raptor cage. Uh and that's
[8:26]
done in memory of their son James
Bennett James Bennett Flanigan Jr.
[8:31]
$37,975.33
[8:35]
in memory of James Bennett Flanigan Jr.
They have relocated. They've moved out
[8:40]
of the area at this time, but part of
their catalyst for this was to encourage
[8:44]
anyone else that may want to give to
Lick Creek Conservatory to do that, but
[8:49]
we're thankful to receive this and very
appreciative of the Flanigans making
[8:53]
this donation.
[8:57]
Also, board, you have some packets
before you, Emanuel. That's from the
[9:01]
mayor's youth council. And that just
wanted you to get a feel for what the
[9:06]
staff has put together for the mayor's
youth council this year. We had 80
[9:10]
applications for the youth council.
That's our limit. We had 68 last year
[9:14]
and 80 applications this year. So, we're
looking for a real robust uh class. And
[9:20]
if you look through that, I think you'd
find it very interesting. some history
[9:23]
and different uh challenges about the
city andformational items that the youth
[9:27]
council I think will will sure benefit
from. So, special thanks to Miss Jen
[9:31]
Griffith for putting that manual
together.
[9:38]
Just as an FYI also
[9:44]
from Fire Chief Clark,
we would like for you to know that Olive
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Branch Fire Department added four new
certified paramedics after their
[9:51]
graduation on August the 6th, 2026 from
Northwest Mississippi Community College
[9:57]
Paramedic Program. This is an intensive
three semester fasttrack program to
[10:02]
obtain a nationally registered paramedic
license. These are our employees that uh
[10:06]
the city incentivized by paying tuition
for them to get the paramedics program.
[10:11]
Uh and also we have two other employees
that are currently in paramedic school
[10:16]
and three will start in January 27. So
the board knows that paramedics are it's
[10:22]
a challenge to get that level of talent
and we're certainly pleased that the
[10:26]
fire department uh has these individuals
going through and we congratulate the
[10:29]
the men and women that made it through
the paramedic school and got added to
[10:33]
the registry.
[10:37]
chief here. Chief, anything else to say
on that? Is that cover it well enough
[10:41]
or?
>> Yes, sir.
[10:43]
» Okay. Well, thank you. We're pleased to
get those without a doubt.
[10:49]
Following the agenda, you have board the
consent agenda, more administrative and
[10:55]
purpose. the uh items on the consent
agenda
[11:00]
1 through 27.
I know you've had those to look over if
[11:05]
there's no are any questions or motions
on the consent agenda items 1 through
[11:09]
27.
>> Motion to approve.
[11:12]
» Mr. Gamage motion to approve. Is there a
second?
[11:17]
» Second, Mr. Wallace. Any discussion?
All in favor?
[11:22]
» All oppose? Motion carries.
[11:27]
Planning Commission Old Business. This
is a public hearing for consideration of
[11:31]
an application for a zoning map
amendment submitted by Greg Russell of
[11:35]
Civil Link on behalf of Diane Stoval,
James Allen Stoval, revoke revocable
[11:41]
living trust property owner. The request
is to reszone 50.87 87 plus and minus
[11:47]
acres from the AR agricultural
residential district to R1 single family
[11:52]
residential district for the purpose of
creating Almondale Retreat a single
[11:57]
family residential subdivision. The
subject property is located on the south
[12:01]
side of Dninnesota Road at the Marshall
County line approximately 86 plus or
[12:06]
minus miles east of Center Hill Road.
This was set on July the 21st for a
[12:12]
public meeting today and this will be
led by uh Dr. Song.
[12:21]
» Thank you very much, Mayor Adam. Before
you is a request to consider the
[12:26]
reasonzoning of a 50.87 87 acres piece
of property that is located north of
[12:34]
Highway 302 or Goodman Road just south
of Dotto Road east of Senah Road and
[12:42]
line along the city limits with Masha
County. So this is the piece of property
[12:48]
under consideration. It is currently
vacant as shown on this map. Surrounding
[12:56]
the property to the south uh the Senah
retreat subdivision that has been
[13:02]
developed in suburban style.
Further to the west of this particular
[13:08]
piece of property, this is where you
have the Senahhee plantation plant unit
[13:14]
development at this location. It's also
undeveloped at this time.
[13:20]
The property is currently zoned AR
agricultural residential district
[13:27]
shown on this map and the applicant
proposes that it be reszoned to allow
[13:34]
the Amadela retreat subdivision. This
will be a single family residential
[13:40]
subdivision.
There is an accompany accompanying
[13:44]
subdivision plot as part of this
particular application which the board
[13:49]
will have the opportunity to review.
With regard to the resoning criteria,
[13:56]
the board is required to find whether
the original zoning classification for
[14:01]
the property as it exists today is a
mistake. The applicant does not make any
[14:06]
such claim that the existing AR zoning
of the property is a mistake. The
[14:12]
planning commission did find that a
subject property was zoned a arrow in
[14:19]
the 1980s. That's what our records show.
It has been zoned AR since the 1980s. It
[14:25]
was annexed into the city in 2021 during
the last annexation and there has been
[14:30]
no change in the zoning classification
of the property since then. As such, the
[14:36]
existing AR zoning classification of the
property is not a mistake. That
[14:42]
particular criterion therefore is not
met.
[14:46]
The board of adamant is also required to
find whether the character of the
[14:51]
neighborhood has changed to search and
extend to justify the proposed
[14:56]
reasonzoning and not all and whether
there is a public need with regard to
[15:02]
the character of the neighborhood
whether it has changed sufficiently to
[15:07]
justify the reasoning of this particular
piece of property.
[15:11]
The applicant submits that there have
been sewer upgrades in the general area
[15:16]
of the property since the 1980s.
For example, Amad retreat to the south
[15:22]
uh Senah retreat to the south for it to
have developed in this suburban style as
[15:27]
opposed to the rural estate a district
configuration it ought to have had se
[15:33]
the surrounding zoning system has also
changed so contest the applicant. We
[15:39]
we've mentioned the center here retreat
to the south is zone arrow 2 that's in
[15:45]
the county is zone arrow 20. Those are
lots that are generally uh 20,000 square
[15:51]
ft in size as opposed to a arrow lots
that are minimum 1 acre in size. Now in
[15:58]
the county arrow 20 does not really mean
minimum 20,000 square ft lots. There are
[16:05]
lots in there that are far less than
20,000 square feet. It's a formula they
[16:08]
use in the county and how they the kind
of call this are 20 but it really does
[16:12]
not mean minimum 20,000 ft lots. There
are lots there that are 12,000 15,000 ft
[16:18]
in size. So um the applicant also
contends that the AR zoning district as
[16:26]
it were with a requested change uh for
the resoning will provide a transition
[16:31]
between the AR20 lots to the south and
the AR lots that will remain to the
[16:37]
north of the property.
The planning commission did find that
[16:43]
yes there have been sewer upgrades in
this particular area and the city droad
[16:48]
is also working on other uh sewer
infrastructure expansion in the in the
[16:54]
area. Generally if you don't have
seawward the lots need to be minimum 1
[16:59]
acre and in some cases one and a half
acre in order to have sufficient area
[17:04]
and it's duplicate for subsurface
seawage disposal. But once sewer lines
[17:09]
are extended to the area then that makes
it possible for the lots to be less than
[17:13]
1 acre in size. So we have had that
sewer infrastructure upgrades that is
[17:18]
going on in the area of the property. Uh
secondly, there have been a number of
[17:22]
reasonings that have moved this area
from a predominantly agricultural area
[17:29]
to a development in character that is
more of suburban. Sub urban residential
[17:33]
development involve lots that are
minimum 6,000 square ft right up to
[17:38]
about 30,000 square ft.
We mentioned the center here retreat
[17:43]
subdivision to the south and you also
have
[17:47]
the center hill plantation to the west.
This area has lots ranging from about
[17:54]
12,500 square ft to 40,000 square ft
in the center he plantation. So those
[18:01]
are that's a change that has occurred in
the area with regard to resoning just in
[18:06]
the last 20 years with regard to whether
there is a public need for this
[18:10]
reasoning. The applicant submits that
the reasoning addresses a continuous
[18:15]
demand for single family residential
lots in the city and it will provide for
[18:21]
the more efficient land use pattern that
minimizes sprawl and it's also
[18:27]
consistent with the comprehensive plan.
The comprehensive plan of the city
[18:31]
articulates the public needs of the area
as has been determined by the board of
[18:37]
adan. Comprehensive future land use map
in the comprehensive plan designates the
[18:42]
property as suburban neighborhoods. The
requested reasoning aligns with the
[18:48]
future land use map classification of
the property and as such it meets the
[18:53]
public need criteria. The planning
commission at its meeting on July 14 did
[18:58]
review this application and determined
that the character of the area has
[19:03]
changed in the last three decades from
agricultural to suburban residential
[19:06]
land uses following the extension of
public seoning and development of
[19:10]
multiple passes in the area and that the
reasoning of the property to R1 will
[19:15]
align with the comprehensive plan 2040
designation of the property as suburban
[19:19]
neighborhood. As such, it unanimously
voted and recommended that the board of
[19:25]
adaman reszone this property from its
current AR district to R1 single family
[19:31]
residential. That concludes staff's
presentation. Thank you.
[19:36]
» Thank you, Dr. Song. Board, any
questions regarding the staff report
[19:39]
before the applicant is afforded an
opportunity to come forward. Any
[19:43]
questions?
[19:46]
Hearing
[19:51]
none, Mr. Smith or anyone would like to
speak to this for the applicant.
[20:01]
Good evening, mayor and board members.
My name is Greg Smith. I'm with Civil
[20:04]
Link Engineering and I am representing
the applicant here tonight. Uh staff's
[20:09]
done a great job of explaining what
we're trying to do here, so I won't
[20:12]
repeat much of what he said. would like
to point out that we are in conformance
[20:17]
with your future land use plan which
slates lots anywhere from 6,000 to
[20:22]
30,000 square feet. We're asking for an
R1 zone which is a minimum of 125 but
[20:27]
we're proposing 15,000 and larger. Some
of the lots I think there's one lot as
[20:31]
large as 2 acres on this thing that that
you'll see later on should this get
[20:36]
approved. Uh we feel like that we
substantially approve um approved public
[20:41]
need and change in the neighborhood that
uh the staff has mentioned today and um
[20:48]
we're just asking for a favorable
consideration and I can just answer any
[20:52]
questions you might have about it.
>> Thank you Mr. Smith board. Any questions
[20:59]
from the applicant? Any questions for
Mr. Smith?
[21:04]
» Hearing none. Thank you. Yes sir.
[21:13]
» Questions, discussions, or motions?
[21:18]
» Oh, this is public hearing. Thank you.
This is this is a public hearing as
[21:22]
well. Is there anyone here to speak as a
proponent you are for this application
[21:27]
or an opponent that you're against this
application? Anyone scheduled to speak
[21:32]
for or against this application?
[21:38]
Final opportunities hearing and seeing
none public comments is closed.
[21:43]
» Board any questions, comments,
discussions, or motions.
[21:48]
» I make a motion we approve it.
>> Mr. Collins, motion
[21:51]
» presented
>> to approve as presented.
[21:54]
» Second.
>> Second, Mr. Gamage.
[21:58]
Any discussion?
All in favor?
[22:01]
» All opposed?
Motion carries. Item two, public hearing
[22:06]
for consideration of application to
amend the project text for Marqu Marque
[22:11]
Manor at Robinson Crossing submitted by
Bobby Britain Dabs Cannabis Dispensary
[22:16]
on behalf of property owner Manver Singh
Singh Development Incorporated. The
[22:21]
subject property is suite 125 at 5025
Church Road East within zone 8 of the
[22:28]
Marquette Manor at Robinson Crossing
zone PUD plan development unit and is
[22:33]
located on the south side of Church Road
East just east of Pleasant Hill North.
[22:39]
The request is to add medical cannabis
as a permitted use in this unit. And
[22:44]
before we start this uh staff report, if
anyone hears to speak on any items
[22:48]
tonight, any public comment items
tonight, please complete one of the blue
[22:52]
cards at the rail uh in the front of the
courtroom and give that to the clerk and
[22:56]
they'll pass the cards to me in a
moment. Staff report by
[23:03]
Andrew's
there, Mr. Thank you.
[23:06]
» Andrew Hawin.
>> Yes. Thank you. The applicant is
[23:10]
requesting to amend an existing PUD to
allow the new land use at 5025 Church,
[23:18]
Church Road East, Sweet 2025.
And so that's highlighted in that yellow
[23:25]
u um outline right there. Uh this is
near the intersection of Church Road
[23:30]
East and Pleasant Hill Road northwest of
the Margaret Manor neighborhood. The
[23:35]
existing land uses in the commercial
spaces include a restaurant, a vape
[23:39]
store, a nail salon, a barber shop, an
insurance office, and a liquor store.
[23:44]
So, that's currently what's in the area.
So, um, starting with the state distance
[23:49]
requirement, state law requires that
cannabis dispensaries cannot be located
[23:54]
within 1,000 ft of the nearest property
line of any school, church, or child
[23:59]
care facility. this proposed location
uh satisfies this requirement and as you
[24:05]
could see the radius is there on the
screen. So, uh, going into the the city
[24:12]
specific requirements, section 14 of the
schedule of district regulations in
[24:16]
article 5 of the city zoning ordinance
describes the purpose of the PUD
[24:21]
district. And it's so that um, this
custom zone can provide for the
[24:26]
development of planned total communities
that provide a full range of residential
[24:31]
types as well as certain commercial,
office or light industrial uses designed
[24:35]
to serve the inhabitants of the
districts. consistent with the
[24:38]
comprehensive plan. And so when someone
submits a PUD application, um they have
[24:44]
to present a list of permitted uses
within each planned unit development and
[24:49]
um that will be um ultimately approved
by the board of alderman. So saying that
[24:56]
this has already been um submitted
previously
[25:01]
um as a PUD reszoning request. Um now
the applicant today is essentially
[25:10]
resubmitting that same application but
requesting to add one land use and that
[25:16]
is the um the retail of um medical um
cannabis. And so here from that old PUD
[25:26]
document, uh I took a screenshot where
it has all of the uh zones that they
[25:33]
have described laid out with um
particular uh land use um prescribed
[25:40]
land uses. And so they are going into
what the original application calls zone
[25:47]
8. So, as you can see here, they're just
requesting to add
[25:53]
they're requesting to add the medical
cannabis dispensary specifically in
[25:59]
suite 125 at um in in that um retail
bay. So,
[26:06]
um that concludes the presentation. Um
planning commission did um recommend
[26:13]
approval 4 to one. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Tensentock. Board, any
[26:20]
questions on the staff report?
[26:27]
Does the applicant or applicant
representative wish to add anything?
[26:38]
» Hi, Amy Silio1201
Old Goodman Road. Um, I do have some
[26:43]
handouts. Would it be okay to approach?
[27:02]
Thank you. Good evening [clears throat]
again. My name is Amy Silio. I'm the
[27:07]
vice president of human resources and
development for DABS Cannabis
[27:10]
Dispensary. Dabs is a Mississippiowned,
veteranowned company currently operating
[27:17]
26 locations across the state of
Mississippi. One of them currently
[27:21]
already located in Olive Branch.
[clears throat]
[27:25]
We are the we are the proud company we
have built. More importantly, we
[27:30]
seriously we take the serious
responsibility that comes with becoming
[27:34]
part of each community while we serve.
Bear with me. I am used to speaking
[27:38]
about compliance to employees, not the
city, but we'll get through it.
[27:42]
[clears throat]
I want to keep my comments tonight
[27:44]
focused on the purpose of Margaret
Manor's project text and one simple
[27:48]
question. How will allowing dabs at
Margaret Manor improved this development
[27:53]
in the area of Olive Branch? Before I
address that, there is one important
[27:58]
piece of the context I'd like to point
out. When Margaret Manor project tax was
[28:02]
adopted, the Mississippi Medical
Cannabis Act did not exist.
[28:08]
There was no legal medical cannabis
program for the project text to
[28:12]
contemplate.
What the project text did contemplate
[28:16]
and already allows our retail and
healthcare uses. Today, Mississippi
[28:22]
Medical cannabis program brings those
two together.
[28:26]
I want to emphasize one word tonight,
patients. The people we serve must have
[28:32]
a qualifying medical condition, receive
a medical recommendation from a
[28:37]
certified physician or nurse
practitioner, and then be approved by
[28:41]
the Mississippi State Department of
Health before they can participate in
[28:45]
this program. They are recognized by the
state, the DEA, and us as patients.
[28:52]
This is a highly regulated industry. In
addition to the oversight through the
[28:57]
Mississippi State Department of Health,
dispensary is regulated by the
[29:01]
Department of Revenue through ABC. And
I'm happy to say that DABS has actually
[29:06]
completed all 26 applications as well as
completed all of our DEA audits.
[29:13]
[clears throat]
The regulatory environment today is very
[29:16]
different from the one that existed when
Margaret Manor text was written. We
[29:21]
aren't asking the city to change the
original vision for Margaret Manor. We
[29:25]
are asking the project text to recognize
a legal, highly regulated healthcare
[29:31]
retail use that did not exist when the
vision was created. I think the best way
[29:37]
to determine whether DABS belongs here
is to look at the standards of the
[29:41]
project text itself that have already
been established.
[29:45]
It says development within Margaret
Manor should provide supporting
[29:49]
neighborhood services, enhance
surrounding property, reflect
[29:53]
sensitivity to adjacent land uses,
encourage the highest quality
[29:57]
development, create a unique sense of
place. Those aren't standards we created
[30:03]
for this presentation. They are
standards established for Margaret
[30:06]
Manor.
And tonight, I'd like to show you
[30:09]
specifically how DABS is committed to
improving each one of them.
[30:14]
The [snorts] first one, we will improve
neighborhood services.
[30:17]
The first goal is to provide supporting
neighborhood services. This is an area
[30:22]
[clears throat]
where DAPS can make a real and
[30:24]
measurable improvement. There is
currently no medical cannabis dispensary
[30:28]
serving the west side of Olive Branch.
Our patient data demonstrates that the
[30:33]
need is already there.
Our current Olive Branch location serves
[30:38]
more than 3,800 patients in total.
1,66 of those patients live in Olive
[30:46]
Branch.
>> How many? [clears throat]
[30:49]
» 1,66 of our patients actually live in
Olive Branch South. Yes, sir.
[30:54]
[clears throat]
>> 453 come from South Haven. And I want to
[30:58]
point out this is only our Olive Branch
location where our patients come from.
[31:04]
Um 453 come from South Haven.
five uh 358 Balia, 244 Hernando,
[31:13]
157 Horn Lake,
uh 113 Nesbbit, and 108 Holly Springs.
[31:21]
[clears throat] These aren't projected
customers. These are patients who
[31:24]
already travel to Dabs and Olive Branch
for their healthcare needs. And access
[31:29]
is especially important when we consider
who these patients are. Approximately
[31:34]
85%
of the patients we serve are over the
[31:38]
age of 60.
[clears throat] Many people don't
[31:41]
realize that these people are living
with debilitating conditions, serious
[31:46]
illnesses, and terminal diagnosis.
For these patients, improving access
[31:51]
isn't simply about convenience.
reducing how far an elderly patient or
[31:58]
someone battling a serious illness
[clears throat] to travel for the
[32:02]
healthc care matters.
[32:08]
[clears throat] So when we talk about
how this amendment can improve
[32:11]
neighborhood services, we aren't talking
about creating a service and hoping
[32:15]
people use it. The patients are already
here. The need is already here. What we
[32:21]
have is the opportunity to improve
access
[32:25]
at DAB's location at Margaret Manor
[clears throat] would would improve
[32:29]
access for more than a thousand Olive
Branch locations we already serve while
[32:33]
also providing more accessible westside
location for hundreds of patients
[32:37]
already traveling into the Olive Branch
area from surrounding communities. At
[32:42]
the same time, it gives those patients
another reason to come into this area of
[32:46]
Olive Branch in particular where their
visits can benefit other businesses
[32:49]
located within and around Margaret
Manor. We improve neighborhood services
[32:54]
by bringing an existing needed health
care service closer to the patients who
[32:59]
already depend on it. We improve
Margaret Manor by bringing an
[33:03]
established patient base
and additional activity into this part
[33:07]
of the city. Number two, we will improve
and enhance the surrounding property.
[33:12]
The second goal of the project text is
to enhance the surrounding property. For
[33:15]
DABS, that means something very simple.
The property should be better when we
[33:21]
are there. DABs has committed to
improving the property, not simply by
[33:26]
occupying the storefront. We have
committed to maintaining a clean
[33:30]
professional exterior and investing in
the landscape and exterior improvement
[33:34]
that will improve the the appearance of
our location and complement the
[33:38]
surrounding development. We have also
committed to improving security beyond
[33:42]
our own front door. [clears throat]
Doubs will extend our exterior
[33:48]
surveillance coverage beyond our
immediate storefront, including
[33:52]
towarding toward the neighboring area
near Pop's convenience store. We know
[33:57]
that there was a robbery at POP several
years ago and while that incident was
[34:01]
some time ago, it's one reason to
believe our security investment can
[34:05]
provide a benefit beyond our own
location. And we've actually been able
[34:09]
to assist um the police in our current
location in Olive Branch um with with
[34:15]
incidents that have happened along
Goodman in front of our store as well as
[34:20]
next door at Firehouse um and a few
other things that have happened. We are
[34:23]
more than happy um to provide more
security for the area
[34:29]
[clears throat]
[34:33]
by intentionally positioning
surveillance to provide additional
[34:36]
coverage of the surrounding area. DAPS
can help improve visibility and security
[34:40]
for our neighbors as well as our own
patients and employees. We understand
[34:44]
that becoming part that becoming part of
Margaret Manor also means accepting
[34:49]
responsibility for contributing to the
quality of the overall development and
[34:54]
we are committed to doing that. DAPS is
committed to improving the appearance of
[34:57]
the property, improving security and
contributing to the overall quality of
[35:02]
Margaret Manor. Our standard is simple.
If dads be if DABS becomes part of
[35:07]
Margaret Manor, the property and area
around us should be better because we're
[35:11]
there. This is how we enhance the
surrounding property.
[35:16]
[clears throat]
The third, we will improve through
[35:20]
thoughtful integration. The third goal
of the project text is to reflect
[35:25]
sensitivity to the adjacent land uses.
To us, that means understanding that we
[35:30]
aren't just investing in our own
storefront. We are becoming part of an
[35:34]
existing development and our
responsibility is to improve the
[35:37]
environment we share with the business
around us. Dabs is committed to being
[35:42]
intentional about how our location fits
within Margaret Manor. Our landscaping
[35:47]
and exterior improvements will
complement the development. Our
[35:50]
expanding surveillance [clears throat]
will provide additionally additional
[35:54]
visibility beyond our storefront and the
professional standards we maintain of
[35:59]
our location will contribute to the
overall opinion, appearance, and
[36:03]
atmosphere of the property.
[36:10]
We want the businesses around us to
benefit from having dabs there. Our
[36:15]
current Olive Branch location
established a patient base for more than
[36:18]
3,800 people. A westside location gives
us an opportunity to bring some of those
[36:23]
patients into Margaret Manor,
introducing them to not only Gabs, but
[36:27]
to the businesses around us. We want our
patients to discover those businesses.
[36:31]
We want our presence to contribute to
the activity within development and we
[36:36]
want the investment [clears throat]
we make in our in this property to
[36:40]
contribute to the experience of everyone
who works, shops or visits there.
[36:49]
That is what sensitivity to adjacent
land use means to us. Recognizing that
[36:53]
our success should contribute to the
success of the development around us. We
[36:57]
aren't coming to Margaret Manor simply
to look for a place to operate. We are
[37:01]
coming with a commitment to be a good
neighbor, make meaning meaningful
[37:04]
improvements and become an asset to the
business and properties around us.
[37:10]
Number four,
we will improve the quality of the
[37:13]
development.
The fourth goal of the project taxis is
[37:18]
to encourage the highest quality
development. I think this is one of the
[37:22]
most important things we can offer the
board tonight [clears throat] and that
[37:26]
is you don't have to speculate about the
quality of business DAPs will bring to
[37:29]
Margaret Manor. We can show you. We
already operate 26 locations across
[37:35]
Mississippi and have established
standards for what DAPs location should
[37:38]
look like, how it should operate, and
how it should represent the community
[37:42]
around us. Our locations are designed to
provide professional healthc care
[37:46]
focused environment that is clean,
secure, attractive, and professionally
[37:51]
maintained. We invest in the appearance
of our property's landscaping technology
[37:56]
and extensive security systems. We even
position our computer monitors so that
[38:01]
patients can see what our employees see
during a transaction because
[38:05]
transparency is part of the standard we
expect.
[38:12]
But the quality of a development is more
[clears throat] is more than what you
[38:16]
see from the outside. It's also the
quality of the business operating
[38:19]
inside. DABS has established companywide
[clears throat]
[38:23]
standing standard operating procedures,
operations manual, employee handbook,
[38:28]
structured employee training, and
ongoing leadership development. Our
[38:32]
locations are subject to regular
compliance audits by their directors
[38:37]
each each month. We continually train
our employees and leadership because
[38:42]
maintaining a high quality operation
requires more than just opening doors.
[38:46]
It requires continually maintaining the
standard. Our investment in security is
[38:51]
extensive. Our products are laboratory
tested accompanied by certificate of
[38:55]
analysis and tracked from a seed to
sales system through the [clears throat]
[38:58]
Mississippi regulated system. We heavily
invest in our people.
[39:03]
We believe quality development should
create quality employment and DABs has
[39:08]
made competitive wages. We actually have
the highest wages in the state.
[39:12]
[clears throat] Um employee development
and opportunities for advancement are
[39:16]
part of our investment in the
communities where we operate.
[39:20]
These are not things we are we are
proposing to someday create for Margaret
[39:24]
Manor. They are standards we already
operate under today.
[39:32]
State regulation establishes what we are
required to do. DABS establishes the
[39:37]
standards that we expect oursel of
ourselves and we are committed to
[39:41]
bringing that same standard to Margaret
Manor. When the project text calls for
[39:45]
the highest quality development, we
believe that means attracting businesses
[39:49]
that will invest in their property,
invest in their employees, operate
[39:53]
professionally, hold themselves
accountable, and continually work to
[39:57]
improve. That is the kind of business
DABS has already built and that is the
[40:02]
quality of development we are committed
to bringing to Margaret Manor.
[40:06]
And the last one, we will help improve
and create a unique sense of place.
[40:12]
The final goal of the project text is to
create a unique sense of place to dabs.
[40:16]
A sense of place isn't something a
business creates by simply putting up a
[40:20]
sign or improving a building. A sense of
place is created when businesses become
[40:25]
invested in the people and the
organizations that make the community
[40:29]
unique.
And in Olive Branch, we have already
[40:32]
started to do that. DAPS has made
monetary donations to the local American
[40:36]
Legion Hall, supporting an organization
that serves veterans and the families of
[40:41]
this community. But that relationship
became more became more than a donation.
[40:47]
» [clears throat]
>> I was invited to speak with local
[40:49]
veterans to provide education about
cannabis and the medical cannabis
[40:53]
program. I also understand that a young
lady uh from Olive Branch had the
[40:58]
opportunity to represent Mississippi in
Washington through the American Legion
[41:03]
Auxiliary Girls National Program. That's
a great example of why we believe
[41:07]
supporting local organizations matters.
The impact
[41:13]
those organizations make reaches far
beyond any one donation
[41:19]
and our commitment isn't limited to one
donation or one type of cause. We see
[41:24]
tremendous value in supporting many
different types of organizations because
[41:27]
every community has different needs.
During Christmas, we we have held toy
[41:31]
drives to support local families. When
we learned about individual families or
[41:36]
in Olive Branch who were struggling or
needed help, DAPS has donated directly
[41:39]
to the members of this community. Across
our company, the same philosophy has led
[41:44]
us to support veterans, law enforcement,
and first responders, animal shelters,
[41:49]
blood drives, children's organizations,
community cleanups, family in need, and
[41:54]
other local causes. We don't believe
community involvement should fit into
[41:58]
one category. We believe in identifying
where we can make a difference and
[42:02]
showing up. That is creating a sense of
place for us. It means knowing your
[42:09]
community around you. It means
participating in it. It means supporting
[42:13]
the organizations that it serves and it
means recognizing when someone in that
[42:18]
community simply needs help. We are
already doing those things in Olive
[42:23]
Ranch. Margaret Manor gives us another
opportunity to deepen that commitment
[42:27]
and improve our connection to the west
side of this community.
[42:31]
[clears throat]
[42:34]
We want to invest in the people around
it because when business because when
[42:39]
businesses invest in people,
organizations, and needs of the
[42:42]
community around them, they don't simply
occupy a place. They become part of what
[42:46]
makes it special.
[clears throat]
[42:50]
I want to close by going back to the
first question I asked at the beginning.
[42:55]
How will allowing dabs
at Margaret Manor improve this
[43:00]
development in the area of Olive Branch?
I believe we've answered that tonight.
[43:05]
We will improve neighborhood services by
bringing needed healthcare access to the
[43:08]
west side of Olive Branch, particularly
a patient population that is
[43:12]
overwhelmingly over the age of 60 and
includes people living with debilitating
[43:16]
internal dis illnesses. We will improve
the surrounding property through the
[43:21]
commitments we have made to landscaping,
exterior improvements, professional
[43:25]
appearance, and security that extends
beyond our own front door.
[43:30]
We will improve the environment we share
with adjacent businesses by being a good
[43:34]
neighbor, bringing an established
patient base to the development, and
[43:38]
making investments that contribute to
the success of the area around us. We
[43:43]
will improve the quality of the
development by bringing a proven
[43:46]
Mississippi company with established
operating standards, extensive training
[43:51]
and oversight, strong security, quality,
employment, and a commitment to
[43:55]
continually raising the standard we
expect of ourselves.
[43:59]
And we will improve the sense of place
by continuing what we have already
[44:03]
started in Al branch. Investing in its
people, supporting its organizations,
[44:08]
helping its families, and showing up
when the community needs us.
[44:14]
Those are the five goals established in
the Margaret Manor project text.
[44:18]
[clears throat and snorts]
And DABs approves each one of them.
[44:25]
We are simply asking for an opportunity
to bring that same commitment to the
[44:29]
west side of the city. If you approve
this amendment, our commitment to you is
[44:34]
simple. Margaret M. Margaret Manor will
be better if we are there. We will
[44:40]
enhance Margaret Manor. We respectfully
ask for your approval. And now I can
[44:44]
check this off my bucket list. Thank
you.
[44:47]
» Thank you. Thank you, board. Any
questions of the applicant? If I'm not
[44:52]
mistaken, your location on the east side
is at Hacks Cross at the Solar Road.
[44:56]
It's on Hacks Cross. Correct.
>> It's um on the It's It's actually on off
[45:00]
of Old Goodman Road. It's a little past
Hack Cross. It's right next to um
[45:04]
Firehouse Subs. Domino's.
[45:08]
» Okay. Have you served what like 3,800?
You said 3,800 patients so far?
[45:13]
» Yes, sir.
>> Okay.
[45:14]
» We've we've been there um it was two
years in July.
[45:17]
» Okay.
>> Yes, sir. Is this number 85% of patients
[45:21]
over age of 60 is that consistent in
other counties and statewide or is that
[45:26]
unique with this area?
>> That that is that is definitely um our
[45:30]
experience statewide.
>> Okay.
[45:32]
» If you if you pull um I believe the
Mississippi State Department of Health
[45:36]
also has a breakdown by age group. If
you pulled that information,
[45:41]
» okay,
>> you can see it there as well. Is that
[45:43]
one of the requirements if you go in
there what age you are
[45:47]
» or you have to I show you I do.
>> Yeah. Um so to before you to get your
[45:51]
permit you have to be um 21 years old.
Okay.
[45:55]
» With two doctor recommendations. If you
only you have to wait until you're 25 if
[46:01]
you want to only have to get one doctor
recommendation.
[46:03]
» Okay.
>> I wonder how you came up with the 85%
[46:08]
over 60. Are y'all collecting that data?
So 85%
[46:13]
of those 3,800 people are over the age
of 60 that have come to visit us.
[46:20]
» I think his question
>> I think his question is how do you
[46:22]
collect that? How do you obtain?
>> We have a a point of sales system where
[46:26]
we have to enter all the patient
information when they come in and it
[46:30]
it's it's just like a doctor's office
that we have to include all of your
[46:34]
personal information, your patient
number and it actually connects to the
[46:37]
state system and so we have all of that
information in our system. Okay.
[46:41]
» Yes, sir.
[clears throat]
[46:44]
» Ma'am, I had two quick questions. I'm
sorry I didn't I didn't catch your name
[46:47]
when you first started.
>> My name is Amy Silio.
[46:50]
» Amy, thank you.
>> Yes, sir.
[46:51]
» Um, you operate 26 locations in the
state of Mississippi, right?
[46:54]
» That's correct.
>> And how long has DABS been in business?
[46:57]
» Three years.
>> Three. Okay.
[46:58]
» Yes, sir.
>> How many employees do you have?
[47:01]
» Almost 200.
>> 200.
[47:03]
» 200. Yes, sir. We'll actually be opening
in Oxford, so we'll be on Monday.
[47:07]
» Okay.
>> We'll be adding to that as well. Are you
[47:10]
operating in any other states or just
Mississippi?
[47:12]
» No sir, we are only Mississippi and we
our our owners um Tony Wallace and Bobby
[47:16]
Britain um are Mississippi uh gentlemen
and will not go out of Mississippi.
[47:21]
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Yes, sir.
[47:24]
» Additional questions.
[47:29]
» Thank you.
[47:33]
This is a public comment item, but I do
not see any comment cards. But is anyone
[47:38]
here to speak for or against this
proposed application?
[47:44]
Seeing none, public comment section is
now closed
[47:51]
board. Any discussion, questions or
motions?
[47:57]
I'll make a motion to approve as
presented.
[48:01]
Motion to approve as presented by
Alderman Dickerson. Is there a second?
[48:06]
» Second.
>> Second. Alman Earhart. Any discussion?
[48:10]
All in favor?
>> I.
[48:12]
» All opposed?
>> No.
[48:15]
» Eyes have it. The motion carries.
[48:19]
Next item, please.
Public hearing for consideration of
[48:23]
appeal
of board of zoning adjustment decision
[48:27]
regarding application for a conditional
use permit submitted by Greg Smith of
[48:31]
Civil Link on behalf of property owner
CIP LLC. The request is to permit a
[48:37]
dropyard facility to be constructed for
a period of 10 years. The 35.0 0 plus or
[48:43]
minus acre subject property is zone M1
light industrial district and is located
[48:48]
on the west side of Ross Road and on the
north side of Nail Road. Staff report
[48:54]
please uh Dr. Song. Mayor Adman before
you is a request to consider an appeal
[49:01]
of a board of zoning adjustment decision
as you did uh mention
[49:06]
regarding a drop yard at this particular
location. So this is N road. [snorts]
[49:11]
This is highway 305
and this is N road. So the property
[49:17]
you're looking at is actually a
combination of a number of existing
[49:21]
parcels. It is not a platter lot. There
are multiple parcels which put together
[49:28]
make up that 35 acres and it's right
there at the end of the improved uh
[49:34]
section of the ride of whale of N road.
Just south to the piece of property is
[49:40]
an industrial warehouse. Uh FedEx is at
this location. GXO is right here. And to
[49:47]
the north of the property, you have West
Sandwich Road and their residential
[49:52]
developments in this particular area. So
there's a general area in the city that
[49:57]
we're looking at with regard to this
request for a conditional use permit for
[50:02]
the dropyard in the M1 Light Industrial
District. So the property is zoned M1
[50:09]
light indust light light manufacturing
or industrial district. It allows dropy
[50:15]
yards as a conditional use. What this
means is the applicant must go to the
[50:20]
board of zoning adjustment and get
approval for a conditional use permit.
[50:25]
To get that approval, the applicant has
to meet all the general conditions for a
[50:31]
conditional use permit. But also dropy
in the M1 and in the M2 district have
[50:37]
about nine very specific conditions to
them that the applicant is also required
[50:43]
to meet all of them. So they are the
general five or seven general criteria
[50:48]
for a conditional use permit and then
they are the specific criteria for the
[50:53]
job just as we have specific criteria
for things like convenience stores with
[50:58]
fuel pumps or or truck stops in the city
that the applicant is also required to
[51:03]
meet all of them. So the request before
you basically this is an appeal of the
[51:08]
board of zoning adjustment decision.
The applicant had requested
[51:15]
to construct a 252 parking spot dropyard
will be a 24/7 operation valid for 10
[51:24]
years at this particular location. This
is the site plan that was proposed. The
[51:29]
board of zoning adjustment reviewed this
application at its meeting on June 11,
[51:34]
2026 and determined that the applicant
had not met all the conditions of the
[51:38]
conditional use permit. As such, the
board denied the application. The
[51:44]
applicant appealed that decision to you
within uh the 10 days appeal period.
[51:55]
When appeals of board of zoning
decisions are brought before the board
[51:58]
of arament the board years that
application are fresh as if nothing
[52:03]
happened at the board of zoning
adjustment. Basically, as such, the
[52:07]
presentation before you will go through
the same conditions of review that the
[52:12]
board of zoning adjustment had and
present why the board of zoning
[52:17]
adjustment made the decision that it
made it made and the board of man will
[52:22]
have the opportunity to make its own
decision that will either override or
[52:27]
sustain maintain the board of zoning
adjustments decision. The applicant has
[52:32]
to prove the burden of proof is on the
applicant and the applicant has to prove
[52:36]
that all conditional use permit criteria
stipulated in the zoning ordinance with
[52:40]
regard to drop yards have been met. So
the question before the board really is
[52:45]
have all those conditions been met. The
first criteria is whether the proposed
[52:50]
conditional use will adversely affect
the character of the area. This is the
[52:56]
subject property under consideration.
There are two main elements or three
[53:01]
that define the specific character of
this area. You've got the industrial
[53:06]
piece.
So there's an industrial character
[53:10]
element to this.
So I did mention you have FedEx here.
[53:14]
You have the ID industrial warehouse
building all of those to the south. You
[53:19]
also have adjoining this piece of
property to the north single family
[53:24]
residential homes.
So this area in yellow contains single
[53:30]
family residential homes.
The board of zoning adjustment did look
[53:35]
at this particular application
along craft. This is the location that
[53:40]
has been proposed for the career tech.
The board of zoning adjustment looked at
[53:46]
this particular application and
determined that while a dropyard may be
[53:52]
fitting in the character of an
industrial area in the sense that it may
[53:56]
take businesses, you know, you have
trucks going into an industrial park, it
[53:59]
may provide an area additional area for
those trucks to park. Locating a truck a
[54:05]
a a drop yard basically in the backyard
of a single f of single family
[54:10]
residential development is not
appropriate.
[54:13]
Uh there is not an area in the city
where you have a dropy yard directly
[54:17]
behind single family residential homes.
That was the determination of the board
[54:23]
of zoning adjustment with regard to the
character of the area. If the property
[54:27]
were totally surrounded by industrial
uses and you had no residential
[54:32]
development out there, it could be
appropriate. when you have trucks going
[54:37]
in in a 247 operation, you have the
beeping sounds, the noise and all of
[54:42]
that that is not conducive for
residential living for example. So that
[54:47]
was a determination that board of zoning
adjustment made. The second is whether
[54:52]
the proposed conditional use will overt
tax public utilities or community
[54:57]
facilities. Water sewer is available in
the general area of the property. The
[55:02]
board did not determine that it will
overt tax any of those utilities.
[55:07]
Whether the proposed conditional use
will substantially increase traffic
[55:11]
congestion or other hazards. This was a
question that the board wrestled with in
[55:15]
the sense that although you have this in
an industrial area, is it the case for
[55:20]
example that traffic for trucks going
down on 305 entering into particular
[55:27]
this intersection could increase in any
significant way because of additional
[55:33]
trucks. You have 254 parking spots that
will be accessing uh going down on 305
[55:40]
going in on nail to park at this
particular location. Basically one way
[55:44]
in one way out is this is this there was
no traffic studied in front of the board
[55:49]
of zoning adjustment that made the case
um against any kind of increase in
[55:54]
traffic. It is certain that of course
there will be trucks there that are
[55:59]
already possibly using that industrial
park that you can have additional trucks
[56:04]
just as you have in other jobs in the
city along highway old highway 78 for
[56:09]
example. There are jobs there and trucks
constantly go in and out simply because
[56:14]
they want to use a job. They are not
going to any of the industrial
[56:16]
buildings.
The fourth is whether the proposed
[56:20]
conditional use will increase the danger
of fire, flood or otherwise endanger the
[56:25]
public health safety or general welfare.
The character of the area falls into the
[56:31]
general welfare argument and I will also
touch on this on one of the specific
[56:36]
conditions that applies to the state of
roads and the general welfare of the
[56:41]
city when it comes to jobyards in
general.
[56:45]
with the proposed conditional use
substantially diminish or impair
[56:48]
property values of adjacent properties
or the neighborhood. There was no
[56:52]
evidence submitted by the applicant in
front of the board of zoning adjustment
[56:56]
to the contrary and the board was
concerned that would drop yardage behind
[57:00]
single family residential homes. That is
concerning
[57:04]
with a proposed conditional use comply
with the recommendations of the
[57:08]
comprehensive plan 2040. The
comprehensive plan designates the
[57:11]
property as industrial distribution.
Industrial distribution of course can
[57:15]
include industrial warehouse buildings.
Doesn't necessarily have to be uh
[57:20]
dropyards. A dropyard of course is an
industrial operation. It would align
[57:24]
with a comprehensive plan. But a
comprehensive plan is not limited. The
[57:28]
board found uh only to drops. You could
have other industrial distribution
[57:34]
buildings at that particular location.
And there is sufficient land area for
[57:38]
example in this particular area where
you could put up a building and be
[57:42]
outside of the ditch.
[57:46]
With regard to specific conditions that
are applicable to tractor trailer
[57:51]
storage yards in the M1 zoning district,
not M2, please this should be M1. It's a
[57:56]
typo. Uh district with regard to those
specific conditions that are applicable
[58:01]
to jobyards. The applicant shall submit
a development plan for approval
[58:05]
conforming to the requirements of the
design review ordinance except as the
[58:09]
requirements of that ordinance may be
amended by the specific provisions. So
[58:14]
this is a site plan that was submitted
by the applicant. It did show so the
[58:19]
area the dark area here those that is
basically the drive aisles and all of
[58:26]
those lines those are the five 252
uh parking stores. So this is proposed
[58:33]
to be paved initially while the parking
stalls are proposed to be gravel and to
[58:39]
be a different surface not paved uh
surface and then um fully paved over
[58:45]
time.
24-hour
[58:50]
uh on-site management shall be provided
located in a permanent building
[58:55]
conforming to the requirements of the
design review ordinance. The board of
[58:58]
adjustment may wave this provision upon
the applicant demonstrating that
[59:01]
alternate management and security
provisions will be provided. Most of
[59:05]
these dropy yards these days really do
not provide an office building in the
[59:10]
front that is managed with a guard
because these days you can have cameras
[59:14]
and monitor them from anywhere. That's
that's the way most of them operate and
[59:18]
the border zoning adjustment took that
into consideration.
[59:23]
All areas used for access, maneuvering,
standing, parking and old display of
[59:28]
vehicles, trucks, trailers, heavy
equipment and cargo containers shall be
[59:33]
paved. This is mandatory. It's a shall
shall be paved with Portland cement or
[59:38]
asphaltic concrete surface. The zoning
ordinance is very specific on how this
[59:43]
has to be done. Uh it was found the
board of zoning adjustment determined
[59:47]
that the applicant did not meet that
requirement.
[59:52]
Fifth, the party conducting the use
shall be responsible for any off-site
[59:57]
improvements, water, sanitary, sea wage,
drainage or road improvements as
[1:00:00]
determined by the city engineer required
to make the subject side usable for the
[1:00:06]
proposed use. The fire department
reviewed this application and determined
[1:00:10]
that for this number of um truck parking
spaces, it would be necessary to have
[1:00:17]
fire hydrants out there. If you had a
situation where any of those trucks
[1:00:20]
caught on fire, you you will need to
have fire hydrants installed across this
[1:00:25]
particular piece of property. The site
plan did not include the provision of
[1:00:29]
those utilities
[1:00:33]
with regard this condition is important.
The party conducting the use sha shall
[1:00:39]
submit a performance guarantee
acceptable to the city in an amount and
[1:00:43]
for the time period established by the
city engineer to guarantee that the city
[1:00:47]
streets are properly maintained to city
specifications as long as the proposed
[1:00:51]
use is operated from the subject site
with the permission of the mayor. U this
[1:00:57]
is a letter that the mayor had sent out
to the board and it was also available
[1:01:01]
to the board of zoning adjustment back
in 2024. It was available to the board
[1:01:06]
of zoning adjustment at the time that
the board reviewed this particular
[1:01:09]
application. It beautifully analyzed the
impact of tractor or dropyard on public
[1:01:16]
streets in the city and what general
welfare benefit that has or does not
[1:01:23]
have to the city of Olive Branch. Uh for
example, large trucks damage the streets
[1:01:29]
of Olive Branch. service made of the
streets where drop lots are currently
[1:01:33]
located and adjacent streets reflect
damages likely made by heavy loaded
[1:01:37]
trucks. Loaded trucks weigh
approximately $80,000 and damaged
[1:01:41]
streets. In the last 24 months, if you
look at 2024, the city has spent spent
[1:01:46]
over $12 million res resurfacing
roadways, have a multi-year plan in
[1:01:51]
progress to continue resurfacing streets
and additional damages to to to the
[1:01:56]
streets which was just not called for.
[1:02:01]
The subject side shall not be visible
from any adjacent public street or
[1:02:07]
residential area. If it is adjust
visible then the applicant is required
[1:02:12]
to provide a 20 ft high bum to buffer
the residential area or the street from
[1:02:20]
the dropyard. They exist a bum on nar
road. So it is more than 20 ft high.
[1:02:25]
From near road you'll not be able to see
the trucks parked on this particular
[1:02:29]
piece of property but from the
residential area to the north it will be
[1:02:33]
visible and the site plan did not
include such a 20 ft high bum.
[1:02:40]
The board of zoning adjustment therefore
on June 11, 2026 reviewed this
[1:02:46]
application and determined that all the
criteria have not been met. As such it
[1:02:52]
denied the request based on two main
elements. One adverse impact on
[1:02:58]
character of the area with regard to the
residential area to the north. You also
[1:03:03]
have a career tech proposed within that
particular area beautiful building and
[1:03:08]
the board wrestled with a question of
um should you have a building with this
[1:03:13]
aesthetic
looking this way and then within the
[1:03:17]
same general vicinity you have a
dropyard. Secondly, the nonconformance
[1:03:22]
with the zoning ordinance, the design
review ordinance. There are a number of
[1:03:26]
elements in there that the plan
submitted to the city did not meet those
[1:03:30]
elements with regard to the paving of
the the the dropyard of it has to be
[1:03:35]
paved. Provision of the bum,
non visibility from the residential
[1:03:41]
area, landscape plans and fire
protection measures. These were not
[1:03:46]
provided to the board.
the recommendations before the board of
[1:03:52]
adamant. The board has a number of
options that it can consider. The first
[1:03:56]
is upon finding that all the criteria of
the conditional use permit application
[1:04:01]
have not been met, the board may affirm
the decision of the board of adjustment.
[1:04:07]
Secondly, upon the board of adamant's
finding that all the criteria have been
[1:04:12]
met, the board may approve the request
for a conditional use permit at this
[1:04:16]
particular location for the 10 years or
less. The board has the option of
[1:04:21]
reducing the number of years if the
board so desires subject to a number of
[1:04:25]
conditions uh 1 through 10 as provided
hearing. That concludes staff's
[1:04:32]
presentation. Thank you.
>> Thank you Dr. Song. board. Any questions
[1:04:37]
regarding the staff report?
>> Thank you.
[1:04:40]
» How close are
how close are they to the homes on Ross
[1:04:45]
and uh Sandage? Don't they back right up
to it?
[1:04:50]
» The the ones on Sandage will back right
up to it.
[1:04:52]
» And there's already noise complaints
from the warehouses there.
[1:04:58]
» Yes, sir.
The ones on Ross, we get noise
[1:05:02]
complaints all the time, especially from
this warehouse. And it's across the
[1:05:06]
pasture and down the hill.
>> Yes, sir.
[1:05:12]
» All right. Thank you.
>> Any additional board questions?
[1:05:20]
» Does applicant have anything else to
add?
[1:05:29]
Mayor, mayor and board, Bryant Cashen,
A1, Highway 305 South. I am representing
[1:05:36]
CIP LLC. I got to put my glasses on. I'm
getting to where I can't see. Uh CIP
[1:05:42]
LLC, that is uh Mike Bailey, uh the
widow of Bill Pass and the widow of
[1:05:48]
Jimmy Eubanks are the owners as as well
as myself. Uh we are asking for this
[1:05:53]
drop zone and if you look at the the
map, it would be perfect if we could fit
[1:05:58]
a warehouse on this piece of property,
but this it is we have a ditch that goes
[1:06:03]
through and it is a logistical nightmare
to try to get a warehouse into this
[1:06:09]
piece of property. I do believe through
my conversations with some of the
[1:06:14]
members of the city that the conditional
use for a dropy yard is so that the
[1:06:19]
board could maintain where these went in
M1 zoning and across the city. And to uh
[1:06:26]
Song's point about road and road damage,
the letter that was sent in 24 by the
[1:06:31]
mayor to the board, I do believe that
the city received approximately $2
[1:06:36]
million to build that road, nail road to
to standards to uphold truck traffic
[1:06:42]
specifically for the FedEx place. And I
can be corrected if that's not true, but
[1:06:46]
I'm about 100% sure that the city
received a grant to build that road, two
[1:06:53]
truck traffic standards. U
we talked to uh a couple things about
[1:07:02]
the the properties to the north on Ross
Road. I know it's in the deal that says
[1:07:08]
that uh property values could be
affected. uh we talked about that in the
[1:07:14]
board of adjustments. There is no data
that the city has provided through the
[1:07:19]
planning department where this is true.
However, to the contrary, I have from in
[1:07:25]
my hands from the DInnesota County Tax
Assessor's uh office 7679 Sandy Road. I
[1:07:35]
will not name the name of the lady that
owns it. In 2021,
[1:07:40]
her tax bill was based on a $67,000
value. And the assessor's office has
[1:07:48]
assured me to make sure to assure you
that this is not true market value, that
[1:07:53]
it is some percentage less than the
market value. Thank goodness for all of
[1:07:58]
us on that. As of 2025,
that same piece of property now uh
[1:08:04]
through the 2025 tax role is valued at
$96,000.
[1:08:08]
We also have one I know that we talked
about over on uh the street here by the
[1:08:13]
warehouse that comes down uh I don't
have a pointer to point to it right
[1:08:19]
there beside the warehouses 5760 Ross
Road it in 21 had a tax valuation of
[1:08:27]
$48,000
compared to 2025 of 70,000. So we have
[1:08:35]
there is like I said no actual data that
supports the home value could be
[1:08:42]
affected by this. If there would ever
have been a home value issue, it would
[1:08:47]
have been the day that this property was
zoned M1 because with within the M1
[1:08:52]
zoning, and I know you all are familiar
with this, and I I can I'm will point
[1:08:57]
out a few things from our our viewpoint,
uh things that can go on this piece of
[1:09:06]
property that does not require any of
your permission.
[1:09:10]
Manufacturing. So we could build a small
manufacturing building on this property
[1:09:16]
and have 282 parking spots without
anybody having to approve that. So
[1:09:22]
unfortunately nobody's going to need a
manufacturing with 282 parking spots,
[1:09:27]
but that legally could happen if we
foresee to do that. uh cannabis
[1:09:33]
cultivation and or processing facility,
sexually oriented business including
[1:09:39]
strip clubs and adult stores.
Uh
[1:09:45]
aluminum can processing and recycling
and then numerous manufacturing that
[1:09:51]
would have some type of some type of
noise going along with that that would
[1:09:55]
be hard to handle. So, I understand that
we are trying to have smart growth, but
[1:10:00]
we also were looking to at a piece of
property that currently the city is
[1:10:04]
getting hardly any tax revenue from.
Through my conversations with Steven
[1:10:09]
Goat at the assessor's office, upon this
construction starting, this property
[1:10:14]
will be assessed at somewhere between 40
and $50,000 per acre
[1:10:20]
as well as any structure built on it for
the tax purposes.
[1:10:26]
Uh and
as far as some of the the other things
[1:10:32]
that Assange brought up that where we
have asked for some uh deviations from
[1:10:40]
the rag we are conceding to remove the
compacted concrete to asphalt asphalt or
[1:10:46]
poured concrete uh agreeing to the 20ft
burn
[1:10:53]
uh the landscape plan which is not
required. ired for your for initial
[1:10:57]
approval. We will be more than happy to
submit that for for final approval once
[1:11:01]
once approval is given. And we when we
met with the initial meeting, we had
[1:11:07]
representatives from the fire department
there and we agreed at that meeting to
[1:11:12]
pipe 8 in water pipe along with fire
suppression systems all through this
[1:11:20]
development. So basically we are now
offering for your approval to uh remove
[1:11:28]
some of the things that we were asking
not to do the 20ft BM the
[1:11:33]
you know so that is I'm going to turn it
over now to Greg Smith with Civil Link.
[1:11:40]
So if you have any technical questions
unless you have a question for me
[1:11:43]
concerning anything that I've said here
today.
[1:11:46]
» Mr. Cashion I I did have a couple. Thank
you. Thank you for your comments and I
[1:11:52]
think your concessions are definitely
warranted because they they were needed.
[1:11:56]
I I had a couple of questions though
that if this were to be approved whether
[1:12:00]
it's here or another location. I know
it's a 24-hour
[1:12:05]
station or proposed to be and it will be
manned and secured. One of the questions
[1:12:09]
I had though will idling of the diesel
engines be allowed because that's a
[1:12:14]
concern to me. I know I'm not a truck
driver, never have been, but I do know
[1:12:19]
sometimes when it's cold or hot, they
keep the engines running for air
[1:12:23]
conditioner and warmth when they sleep
over.
[1:12:26]
» That's a noise issue and a a fumigation
issue, if you will, a fume issue. So,
[1:12:31]
how would you address that?
>> Well, first off, I'm glad you brought
[1:12:34]
that up because I if you noticed, I got
all these little notes drawn and I
[1:12:37]
missed one and that gives me an
opportunity to bring up a point of of
[1:12:41]
what this really is. When I say dropy
yard, I I don't know that we're all on
[1:12:46]
the same page. What I don't know what
all the definitions are. I know that
[1:12:49]
with planning has a a broad definition.
What this is designed for this what our
[1:12:55]
intention is and we will put this in
writing every how we want to how we need
[1:12:59]
to. This is not a day parking deal. This
is not for someone to bring in
[1:13:06]
280 trailers and park them and leave
them like we have in some parts of the
[1:13:10]
city. This is more designed for the
individual that drives a truck that does
[1:13:16]
that lives in a subdivision in Olive
Branch and doesn't have anywhere to park
[1:13:19]
his truck over the weekend. This is for
someone to come in and pay us a monthly
[1:13:24]
fee to come in and park his truck or her
truck, whoever it may be, and whenever
[1:13:30]
they need to get it, they can go and
park their car, get in their truck, and
[1:13:33]
then leave and go work and bring us our
goods that we all need. This is not This
[1:13:38]
is not a daily. This is not It's more I
would say more on the lines of what you
[1:13:43]
see at Crow's truck stop which is just
across the state line where he has some
[1:13:48]
700
spots that are full where people show up
[1:13:52]
on Sunday night. They get in their truck
and they leave. They leave their car
[1:13:56]
parked there. They come back on Friday
night, get in their car and go home,
[1:14:00]
visit their family and then they come
back and and leave. So this So as far as
[1:14:04]
the diesel engines, I don't know that I
can't sit here and guarantee that some
[1:14:08]
guy's not going to show up in February
and crank his truck and let it run for
[1:14:12]
10 minutes. But I think uh based on the
25th foot BM and if you look and I don't
[1:14:18]
have a pointer and it's tough to do,
there is a lot of ground
[1:14:24]
away from these these uh turnarounds
between the homes. So by time you I
[1:14:30]
think the county I mean the city's
ordinance requires us to do a 20 foot 20
[1:14:34]
foot burn with landscaping on top of
that. So that's about as good as we can
[1:14:39]
get about monitoring that.
>> But this is not a parking lot for
[1:14:44]
overnight stay.
>> No it is not. No it is not. So it will
[1:14:47]
be it will be manned as far as the
security part. It will have the
[1:14:52]
automatic. Everybody has been given go
it would be given gate codes so we'll be
[1:14:56]
able to track who's coming and going
license plate readers uh and may at some
[1:15:00]
point in time if we had to we could we
would probably man it uh throughout the
[1:15:04]
night but uh we we do not look for this
to be a comeand go everyday type
[1:15:10]
situation.
>> Okay. Thank you. One other question. Um,
[1:15:14]
since it's open 24 hours, do you propose
any limitation of someone rolling in at
[1:15:20]
2:00 in the morning and dropping their
truck off or starting at 3:00 or 4 in
[1:15:24]
the morning, crank it up and leave?
>> We would have the same regulations
[1:15:27]
probably as FedEx.
>> Whatever time they get there, they're
[1:15:31]
going to be there and whatever time they
leave, they would leave. I mean, they
[1:15:34]
can't we we wouldn't really have any
control over that. nor does is there any
[1:15:39]
control over any of the other things in
this in this in this uh industrial park
[1:15:46]
as are you aware of any limitations on
hours at the FedEx facilities is that
[1:15:52]
247 pretty much
>> as far as I I don't know I'm just
[1:15:57]
» FedEx is 247 sir but if you look at the
location of FedEx it does not back up to
[1:16:03]
residential
>> right
[1:16:04]
» so FedEx is kind of like isolated on its
own um
[1:16:10]
it's a FedEx is a 247 operation and it's
uniquely separated from anything
[1:16:15]
residential.
>> Okay. Well, I would say too though this
[1:16:19]
this I don't know if you can see this,
but all of this in here is buted up next
[1:16:22]
to residential and it doesn't have any
any type of that I know of any type of
[1:16:28]
restrictions on time.
Um, like I said, uh, this is a
[1:16:35]
conditional use and we realize why the
conditional use is there, but I I don't
[1:16:39]
know that I think we can do everything
we can to protect the the people that
[1:16:43]
live on Ross Road or Sandage Road there.
But I think this is a a better option
[1:16:49]
for them and for us than some of these
other things that are on the list.
[1:16:54]
» What kind of BM are you planning on
putting up? Well, the
[1:16:58]
» is it going to be a brick wall or
>> the rag is a 20 foot earthn BM? So, and
[1:17:05]
and and I I'm going to speak out of turn
here, uh, Alderman Gamage, but I got
[1:17:09]
Greg here to back me up. So, if you do a
20 foot BM, so at the peak of the top is
[1:17:15]
20 foot from ground level, but when you
do the slope off of that, it's about a
[1:17:23]
75 or 80 foot wide earthened deal. That
would be let that will be at the top
[1:17:29]
will be a fence of course along with
vegetation. So how wide would that be
[1:17:35]
Greg?
>> Uh you're doing 3 to1 slopes you got 20
[1:17:39]
60 actually be about 130 foot. So it' be
130 foot wide with a 20 foot at the top
[1:17:45]
and then at the top we'll come in and
plant vegetation on top of that I
[1:17:48]
believe is what's
>> you know that's been a concern the
[1:17:50]
residents on Ross Road
>> as Alman Wallace said you know they was
[1:17:55]
promised one thing and they have no way
of keeping that noise off them at night
[1:18:00]
coming in bumping the docks and things
like that. So, uh, one other question.
[1:18:04]
You know, you talking 2
>> 50
[1:18:08]
» 250.
One way in, one way out.
[1:18:11]
» One, two ways in. One way in, two ways
out.
[1:18:14]
» Okay.
>> So, this, if you look right here, the
[1:18:17]
fire department, which we didn't want to
do, and would love, if you could see
[1:18:21]
fit, to strike it from this, we'll be
more than happy to take it out and put
[1:18:25]
some extra fire hydrants in there. But,
we've got a Can you say that?
[1:18:29]
» I can't. I got it. I got to say,
>> you got it. So that is a that is a
[1:18:32]
emergency only entrance there in case
something was to happen. So if we we
[1:18:38]
don't want to put that in we don't want
to touch any of that residential. We'll
[1:18:41]
put we'll burn the whole thing and and
do whatever we need to do because that
[1:18:46]
is that is 250 ft of road that is
basically a dead expense that we would
[1:18:52]
love not we would love not to touch
Sandage Road.
[1:18:55]
» Yeah. I mean, you know, you if you was
planning on connecting the egress
[1:18:59]
andress to console,
you know, that's a that's not a truck
[1:19:02]
ride.
>> No, no, that's just for emergency.
[1:19:05]
That's just for fire because they'll
have a gate code. Uh I guess that's how
[1:19:09]
they do that. I'd have to check with the
fire department how they'd want that.
[1:19:12]
But that's just for police, fire, and
ambulance services to come into the
[1:19:17]
property. No one would leave there and
unless it was an emergency of some sort.
[1:19:21]
» Okay. But like I said, if if there's a
way that we can do it and we can up the
[1:19:26]
water or do whatever we need to do and
cut that off right there to completely
[1:19:31]
cut that off from Sandy's Road, we would
do that as well. Like I said, we're
[1:19:35]
we're we want to be good stewards of the
city, but we have got to find something
[1:19:40]
that fits on this property due to how it
lays. and this through our land plan uh
[1:19:46]
with Civil Link. This was the the best
case scenario for what we could could
[1:19:51]
could do for this piece of property.
>> Okay. Thank you,
[1:19:55]
» Mr. Cash. Uh you got a warehouse in
front of this?
[1:19:59]
» Yes.
>> Have y'all got their written permission
[1:20:03]
that have y'all approached them how much
they would like this? Because this was
[1:20:07]
all was owned as a pud under warehouses
and this is a change. to
[1:20:15]
to my
>> He still own them,
[1:20:17]
» do I? Now,
>> he doesn't own that warehouse, does he?
[1:20:20]
» No. No, that was I guess from I and I'm
speaking out of term because I'm not
[1:20:24]
exactly sure who owns what through
there, but my guess is that land was
[1:20:28]
sold from this group to IDI. They built
the building and now they've sold it to
[1:20:34]
a I think it's Barrett Barrett Industry.
So, you know, when I would tell you that
[1:20:38]
IDI has looked at this and has basically
said they don't have a use for it
[1:20:43]
because I I again, I can't point to
anything that that y'all can see. But
[1:20:48]
basically, right down this line here is
a ditch that comes in and crosses
[1:20:54]
crosses right here. And there's no way,
you know, unfortunately
[1:20:59]
10, 15 years ago, Mike and them had an
opportunity to move that ditch from the
[1:21:05]
and and didn't realize that it was one
of those things that they moved it. That
[1:21:09]
would be great. But that opportunity
would go away when the administration
[1:21:13]
changed. And when the administration
changed back and uh I forget which one
[1:21:18]
it was, but one of the one of the
administrations changed that and now
[1:21:22]
they can't get any any uh clearance from
the core of engineers to move that
[1:21:28]
ditch. So now we're stuck with having to
work within it. Of course, we all know
[1:21:32]
that they probably didn't move it back
in the day because it was expensive to
[1:21:37]
move a a ditch this size. But at the end
of the day, they uh I would say they
[1:21:43]
felt like that if I got approval today,
then that approval was going to be here
[1:21:46]
for for a while. And then if I ever find
a company like IDI that could have can
[1:21:51]
build a facility here, uh they would
come in and and move the ditch. And then
[1:21:56]
that didn't happen.
>> Okay. Uh I understand what you're
[1:22:01]
saying. We went through a lot of this
getting this resone and promote and
[1:22:06]
Yeah.
I don't know if the IDI who bought that
[1:22:11]
thought it was going to be a drop yard.
I don't know if the
[1:22:15]
residents
thought it was going to be a drop yard.
[1:22:19]
Um [snorts]
I I just And you're going to add what?
[1:22:23]
One employee or two employees?
>> Sir, I didn't I don't
[1:22:29]
got to be minimum employees.
>> How many employees would staff?
[1:22:34]
» It would be limited.
>> Can't be many. It wouldn't be many at
[1:22:37]
all. It' probably be some part-time help
to come through and check and make sure
[1:22:40]
that uh there's no garbage and things
are cleaned up, but minimal employees.
[1:22:46]
» Yeah. Normally I'm for business, you
know, that I I don't know how it really
[1:22:53]
helps the city us doing it and a bunch a
lot more trucks. Well, I would say that
[1:23:00]
that I would say from from my standpoint
uh and CIP standpoint,
[1:23:06]
uh hopefully the city and it's it's one
of those deals. It's kind of like the
[1:23:10]
the the planning department's uh
allegation that this is going to hurt
[1:23:14]
property values. This is me pulling it
out of a hat, but you know, if you have
[1:23:18]
252 people pulling in at late at night
at a truck stop, pulling in in a truck
[1:23:23]
that's got to park it, their meter stops
when they turn off a 305 on the Sandage.
[1:23:29]
So, they can drive up to that 10 hours
and as long as they can get off of
[1:23:33]
Sandage, they pull right in the QT, fill
up with fuel, get a cheeseburger, piece
[1:23:37]
of pizza, go park their truck. When they
leave, they hopefully maybe stop back by
[1:23:42]
there and get gas. You know, that's
where the city I think not only is there
[1:23:46]
going to be some se some property tax
increase, but hopefully you're going to
[1:23:50]
have some sales tax off of fuel and
other things that are done there. Now,
[1:23:53]
that's can't justify it. I can't prove
it, but can't prove that it's not going
[1:23:57]
to happen as well.
>> Okay.
[1:24:00]
» Like I said, we're just trying to find
something that will will fit and and and
[1:24:04]
we've got, like I said, two
>> I I understand what you're trying to do.
[1:24:08]
» Yeah.
>> I just have some
[1:24:11]
apprehension about it. Sure. [snorts]
>> Thank you.
[1:24:15]
» Any additional questions of the
applicant?
[1:24:17]
» I have one question.
>> Okay.
[1:24:20]
» You've agreed to do the burm and and the
concrete and everything.
[1:24:25]
Why didn't y'all agree to do it at the
board zoning adjustment?
[1:24:31]
You wouldn't have you probably wouldn't
have got turned down. So now
[1:24:34]
» Well, no. No. What? So, so it's uh
really to be quite honest with you,
[1:24:41]
we're unprepared
for what we got at the board of
[1:24:45]
adjustments. We were not, we did not
think that what we talked about was
[1:24:48]
going to be that big a deal until we got
here the night of and saw and then uh
[1:24:54]
did not realize that in the board of
adjustments packet that we were not
[1:24:58]
provided was a letter that the mayor
wrote saying basically
[1:25:03]
turn this down because we're not going
to get any benefit out of it. And we
[1:25:07]
really kind of walked up against a
loaded gun just right out of the gate
[1:25:10]
with the board of adjustment.
>> The letter had nothing to do with
[1:25:13]
» worms and concrete. Well, we talked
through the concrete and you know, to be
[1:25:18]
quite honest with you, uh didn't really
think that what we were offering was a
[1:25:22]
big deal. Our original meeting with the
mayor and a song uh song basically is
[1:25:27]
the one that told us that, hey, this
thing was put into place 20 years ago to
[1:25:30]
discourage people from doing it. And if
you want to try to do something
[1:25:33]
different, put us together a plan. Uh we
did and it failed miserably. So
[1:25:41]
that's why we have have you know 100%
failed. So
[1:25:46]
» and and just for full transparency that
letter uh ladies and gentlemen was a 24
[1:25:51]
letter regarding not this drop lot or
truck yard but any drop lot or truck
[1:25:56]
truckard that brings a high number of
trucks in that damage our streets and
[1:26:00]
the city gets little to no tax money. is
usually a guard at a co at a metal
[1:26:05]
building and some of these are down to
10 and $12 a night. A very cashrich
[1:26:10]
business and I doubt the city sees a lot
of the tax dollars and that was my
[1:26:14]
stance in 24. Not particularly about
this site, just any sites because we've
[1:26:18]
got enough trucks in and out of this
area. That's true.
[1:26:21]
» But it wasn't specific just to this one,
Mr. Cast.
[1:26:23]
» No, I understand.
>> Any additional questions? I don't I
[1:26:27]
don't know that um this necessarily
going to hurt the property value, but
[1:26:34]
» the information you provided was based
not based on the
[1:26:40]
value increasing of the house, but the
appraisals that happened statewide.
[1:26:45]
» Correct.
>> That that had nothing to do with
[1:26:47]
anything, you know, whether the property
has gotten better because of M1 or M2 or
[1:26:52]
whatever. That's just everybody's went
up. So,
[1:26:54]
» Well, that's true.
>> Okay.
[1:26:56]
Brian, some of these things that were
required by the board of zoning
[1:27:01]
adjustment and Dr. Hassong and stuff
were just the standard.
[1:27:06]
» Sure.
>> Understand things. They were just
[1:27:08]
standard.
>> That is true. 100%. And we we we tried
[1:27:13]
to uh put together a a plan that we felt
like was better. And like I said, so
[1:27:19]
that's kind of why we have realized that
if we want to get this approved and this
[1:27:24]
is the place to to, you know, to say,
hey, we were wrong and this is what we
[1:27:29]
can do. And there again, if uh if the
board sees fit to prove it, great. And
[1:27:35]
if they do not, then we'll go back to
the drawing board and try to come up
[1:27:38]
with something. But I don't know that
what I come back with, one, that you'll
[1:27:43]
ever see it, and two, that you're going
to like it. So I I don't I don't know. U
[1:27:47]
you know it is what it is and uh but one
thing I will say and there may be a
[1:27:53]
hundred people here today against it but
the board of adjustments who got the
[1:27:57]
same letter and notification
not one single person showed up.
[1:28:05]
Not one single person on Sanage. Not one
single person on Walsh. Not one single
[1:28:10]
person out of Cedar Creek Cedar I mean
Cedar Creek Cedar Crest. Not not anybody
[1:28:15]
showed up.
>> Well, they may not show up, but we get
[1:28:19]
the emails and the phone calls.
>> I promise you that.
[1:28:22]
» I understand.
>> Mayor, may I make a comment?
[1:28:27]
» Yes, ma'am.
>> I drove out there yesterday and I drove
[1:28:29]
down uh Ross Road and to the end of the
Sandage Road.
[1:28:35]
These poor people, there's no silence
over there for them if this comes in. We
[1:28:41]
followed a FedEx truck out that took the
the uh FedEx lane and took the the
[1:28:47]
Sandage exit with no emergency. I mean,
he just decided he didn't want to go out
[1:28:54]
in the L road. So, now my brother drove
a truck. I'm not against truckers, but I
[1:28:58]
do know that when they decide they're
going to go a certain route, they're
[1:29:02]
going to take they're going to take the
shortest route to get there. We're
[1:29:06]
already 10 maybe more years out getting
305
[1:29:12]
widened to even think about adding 252
more trucks to exit out of there. So, I
[1:29:20]
have a major concern with what's best
for our citizens when it comes to the
[1:29:26]
safety. I have seen uh Nell Road exiting
on the 305 where it's lined up and I can
[1:29:32]
see where truckers are going to find
another way to go out. They'll go out
[1:29:36]
church or craft. They go down craft at
my location and it both ends it says no
[1:29:43]
trucks but they take it anyway.
>> Sure.
[1:29:45]
» So I think we as a board have to
consider the safety of the citizens when
[1:29:49]
we're talking about
this particular location for this volume
[1:29:56]
of trucks not even considering the noise
for the people on Ross and Sage.
[1:30:04]
» And mayor I have one last question for
staff for Mr. cash and the picture you
[1:30:09]
have on your computer, which we have. I
don't know if the public can see that or
[1:30:12]
not, but do we know at this point what
is immediately to the east of that area
[1:30:17]
in red and to the north of Nail Road?
Has that property been sold yet? I mean,
[1:30:22]
I know it can it has the permitted uses
of M1, which can be warehouses and other
[1:30:27]
things, but do we know if that's been
sold or any plans on that yet?
[1:30:33]
» I don't know. Uh there is the other man
referring to these property or to this
[1:30:38]
one?
>> Both of them but primarily the one at
[1:30:41]
the bottom just north of Nail Road.
>> We there was a a warehouse that was
[1:30:47]
proposed on that location. I think we
actually reviewed plans about 3 years
[1:30:50]
ago but I think because of the economy
it didn't move forward. There is
[1:30:55]
actually these two this this parcel and
this parcel we had approved plans I
[1:31:00]
believe for industrial warehouses on
these two locations
[1:31:04]
» where two two buildings proposed here
but just because of the way the economy
[1:31:09]
kind of changed uh those were not have
not been constructed. One of the things
[1:31:14]
in in line with that, we took the size
of this building just to scale and we
[1:31:20]
were able to feed it on this piece of
property outside of the ditch. So this
[1:31:25]
piece of property can be developed for
something different from a job. It is
[1:31:28]
developable. It has developable area
outside of a ditch. Uh certainly not as
[1:31:34]
large as this one,
>> right?
[1:31:36]
» But comparable to this, it has a
developable area with parking spaces
[1:31:40]
outside of outside of the beach.
And immediately to the north of the two
[1:31:46]
properties we just discussed is uh is
that still AR? Is that M1?
[1:31:53]
» Didn't we approve of the RV park?
>> Yes, this is approved for ROV park.
[1:32:00]
» Okay, that's that's what I was wondering
if that was the exact property. Okay,
[1:32:09]
» thank you. Welcome sir.
>> Okay.
[1:32:12]
» Thank you Mr. Cashion and board just uh
for transparency as well. Mr. Cashion
[1:32:17]
when he appeared uh earlier he in my
office he clearly said if the board
[1:32:22]
doesn't want this then let him know what
will go here. He's trying to develop
[1:32:25]
this 35 acres and he approached the city
in a professional manner and said if
[1:32:30]
this is not what the city wants for the
city to tell him what what the city
[1:32:33]
would allow there was his comment to me.
Uh this is a public comment item. Is
[1:32:38]
there anyone here that is a proponent?
You're here to speak in favor of this
[1:32:42]
application. You wish to see this
application go forward.
[1:32:47]
Seeing none, if you're here to speak in
opposition, I believe we have Jark
[1:32:50]
Rogers listed to come forward in
opposition to this application, come
[1:32:54]
forward.
[1:33:02]
» Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Uh
men and women of the board, good, good
[1:33:07]
evening. Just want to make this short. I
think you guys have covered everything.
[1:33:11]
Uh this is a simple case of give and
take or cause and effect.
[1:33:18]
We give they take because they want this
the effect is what we receive. And what
[1:33:23]
we're looking for in olive branch is a
type of structured growth.
[1:33:29]
Um this falls under the category of
extrative which is parasitic. Um just
[1:33:35]
going to give you some guidelines. I
heard the representative mentioned facts
[1:33:40]
to to the matter. I brought those with
me today to review. Uh one fact is
[1:33:45]
simply that the heavy wear and tear on
the road grids or services without
[1:33:51]
paying proportional upkeep. Uh
leveraging loopholes. I just want to
[1:33:55]
mention that. Um the applicant did
mention about the grants that were
[1:34:01]
provided.
However, there's no type of supporting
[1:34:07]
uh investments from this particular uh
request.
[1:34:11]
Also, we must think about
when a parasite latches on to an object,
[1:34:18]
you know, he sucks them dry and then
goes and finds something else. the
[1:34:22]
serious damage that I see daily as a
citizen traveling um to and from work
[1:34:28]
and various other activities
uh
[1:34:33]
just can't be absorbed. And I know he
did mention FedEx. We do want business
[1:34:38]
and to support our our citizens in this
town. But I think FedEx brings about uh
[1:34:44]
approximately thousands of jobs
as well as other investments and with
[1:34:49]
into the city infrastructure.
And then as Alderman Hehard mentioned,
[1:34:55]
the pollutants
that this will cause is simply,
[1:35:00]
you know, unfavorable.
uh these individuals in these
[1:35:04]
communities and neighborhoods. They've
see out all the branch, Mr. Mayor, as a
[1:35:08]
as a great place to live and work. Even
the um national rec recognition
[1:35:14]
within our uh some of the media
identifies with that. So, I think I
[1:35:19]
would like to implore the applicant as
he continues to say, "What can I do?" As
[1:35:24]
you stated, he approached you. Let's
work together to look at something
[1:35:28]
that's going to be productive,
more specific to um a better outcome for
[1:35:34]
not only the the applicant, but the
city.
[1:35:39]
We are responsible stewards of our
resources at this time, and it's
[1:35:45]
something that we must take very
seriously. So, right now, I got to stand
[1:35:50]
before you, Mr. mayor just in opposition
of this and uh asking the board to
[1:35:55]
consider your uh citizens and your
community stakeholders. I'm going to
[1:36:01]
leave you with this last thing sitting
there. I saw a lot of uncertainties as
[1:36:05]
the a representative of a HOA board. Uh
they all say I'm going to do it until
[1:36:11]
they get in there. Thank you guys for
your time.
[1:36:14]
» Thank you, Mr. Rogers.
[1:36:18]
I I I know we want to support each
other, but I'm going to ask just for pro
[1:36:22]
that we not clap because one side can
clap as well. And once we start the
[1:36:26]
clapping contest, then we'll able to be
here all night. So, just support each
[1:36:30]
other, please, without clapping or any
kind of outburst. Mr. Chris Gillespie,
[1:36:34]
are you here to speak in opposition to
this?
[1:36:46]
Chris Gillespie, 7657 West Sanders Road.
Uh, thank you, mayor, board. U, just
[1:36:52]
real quick, keep it keep it short. Um,
when they applied for it with the board
[1:36:57]
of adjustments, they obviously didn't
meet the requirements. What have they
[1:37:01]
done different now that they can come
back and say, "Well, yeah, you can get
[1:37:06]
it now." And they haven't done that. And
like Mr. Dick Nichson asked him, "Why
[1:37:11]
didn't you do it at first?" Well, they
never thought about it. and the automan
[1:37:17]
damage with the people on Ross Road.
They were promised the BM, never got it.
[1:37:22]
And how who's to say that they get
approved and they say we'll do the BM
[1:37:26]
last? We're in phase two. We ain't got
the BM yet. We're in phase three. We
[1:37:31]
ain't got the BM yet. And me being a
resident, lifelong resident, it's kind
[1:37:39]
of dear to my heart because it backs
right up to my property.
[1:37:46]
been there all my life, family,
everybody. And I just want all of y'all
[1:37:52]
to kind of think about this. If it was a
dropy yard that was going to come to you
[1:37:58]
all's neighborhood, your backyard, would
you vote for it? Would you approve it?
[1:38:04]
Just keep that in mind. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Gillespie.
[1:38:09]
» Not not at this point. Jacqueline Jones,
are you here to speak in opposition?
[1:38:25]
Good evening. Thank you, mayor. Thank
you, Alderman. Uh, I'm here on behalf of
[1:38:29]
the property at 7647
Sanage Road. And, uh, I appreciate the
[1:38:34]
the presentation and the details, but I
didn't hear any benefits for the
[1:38:39]
residents.
None.
[1:38:43]
Only thing I heard is what the city
would benefit from and you wouldn't need
[1:38:48]
to benefit it if you didn't vote for it.
So all the the and the property value,
[1:38:56]
no one's house is sold based on the
assessor's value of property.
[1:39:02]
As you said, everybody's property went
up.
[1:39:06]
But who wants to buy a house that's
backed up to a dropard?
[1:39:13]
the homeowners will have a very
difficult time selling their home and
[1:39:17]
they will have to drop the price of that
sale if they just if someone is just
[1:39:22]
wants to buy the home.
Um
[1:39:31]
the security I mean I heard well well
one or two employees you know that's
[1:39:37]
that hasn't been defined yet. I thought
I heard something about cameras. Um,
[1:39:43]
normally
[snorts]
[1:39:46]
the crime has already been committed
when law enforcement is informed of it.
[1:39:53]
So, that's not going to um stop crime.
That's not going to prevent anyone from
[1:39:58]
doing anything. And lastly, it is very I
consider it a danger to residents, to
[1:40:05]
children
um who may get into that area and we
[1:40:09]
know they all have a way of doing what
they want to do. It's just not a safe
[1:40:13]
environment and it's just not good for
the residents. There were no benefits to
[1:40:18]
the residents if you approve this. Thank
you.
[1:40:21]
» Thank you, Mr. Jones.
Anyone else? Public comments section is
[1:40:27]
hereby closed on this item. Mr. cash and
you can may come back forward and give
[1:40:30]
information.
[1:40:35]
» Mr. Mayor, board, it is evident that uh
people showed up tonight that is not in
[1:40:42]
favor of this. Uh I can tell by how some
of the comments from the board has been.
[1:40:47]
We respectfully withdraw our application
that that is allowed and we will find
[1:40:51]
something that fits on this property
that doesn't require any kind of vote.
[1:40:57]
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Cash.
Application hereby withdrawn.
[1:41:01]
» Mr. Mayor, I I will make a comment. Mr.
Cash, you did mention something earlier
[1:41:05]
about the zoning and what could go
there.
[1:41:09]
» Yes.
>> I'm not so sure that if we come if y'all
[1:41:13]
come back with some, in fact, you
wouldn't have to come back in in certain
[1:41:16]
cases.
>> Correct. that the residents may get
[1:41:19]
something worse than what they and I
understand that there's some opposition
[1:41:24]
to it, but we've had this situation
before where we turn down something and
[1:41:30]
the people got something worse than than
what they had anticipated they were
[1:41:34]
going to have before and were had buyer
remorse, wish they had taken the deal
[1:41:38]
they had. So, I know that people are
that emails and you've gotten questions.
[1:41:45]
We've had comments tonight, but there
are situations that they could put a
[1:41:49]
warehouse there or some kind of small
manufacturing plant and it would never
[1:41:53]
come back to anybody to say yay or nay.
So,
[1:41:57]
» that is true. And and just so we're all
on the same page, that was not a threat
[1:42:00]
because I promise you if I tried to open
shrimp joint, my wife would kill me. Uh
[1:42:05]
and if I tried to do a cannabis, you
know, we she I even told her, I said,
[1:42:09]
"We're going to name it Ken's Cat
House." Uh but she was like, "You better
[1:42:13]
not do that. I'll, you know, I'll kill
you. But also, we wouldn't do the
[1:42:16]
cannabis. So, we're going to try to find
something probably in the manufacturing
[1:42:19]
or small warehouse and move forward.
>> Got to be over 60, 85%. The cannabis
[1:42:24]
users over 60. Just remember when you
market that.
[1:42:27]
» Thank you, sir.
>> We appreciate it. Thank you.
[1:42:31]
» Next item following the agenda.
Consideration.
[1:42:37]
Public hearing and consideration to
amend the zoning ordinance by adding
[1:42:41]
various definitions restricting indoor
and outdoor smoking in public place
[1:42:45]
establishments within 500 ft of public
parks. Specifying criteria for data
[1:42:50]
centers as conditional uses in the M1
light industrial and M2 heavy industrial
[1:42:56]
districts only. limiting the height of
freestanding monument signs in the
[1:43:01]
office area and neighborhood commercial
C1 districts to 8 feet and in the C2
[1:43:06]
highway commercial C3 general commercial
and C4 planned commercial districts to
[1:43:11]
12 feet and specifying the size,
location, and height of onremise and
[1:43:15]
off- premise signs in the M1 light
industrial and M2 heavy industrial
[1:43:20]
districts. The public hearing was set on
July the 21st for this particular item
[1:43:24]
that we're about to hear today. Dr.
Song.
[1:43:30]
» Thank you, Mayor Adman. Before you is
your request to consider amending the
[1:43:35]
current zoning ordinance of the city of
Olive Branch by doing a number of
[1:43:40]
things. Adding various definitions in
the zoning ordinance for clarification
[1:43:45]
purposes.
So often words are used in the zoning
[1:43:50]
code. They may mean different things in
different cities. So each city the words
[1:43:55]
may be common, it may be a technical
word. It's very important that we
[1:43:58]
clarify exactly what does that word mean
in order to avoid confusion when it
[1:44:04]
comes to implementation of the zoning
ordinance. As such, um, various
[1:44:09]
definitions are being proposed to be
added to the zoning ordinance regarding
[1:44:14]
things like what is a cigar lounge, what
is hookah, hookah bar, what is a data
[1:44:19]
center, what is a data center accessory
use or structure, what is a data center
[1:44:25]
energy system. So those are words that
are proposed to be added to the zoning
[1:44:29]
ordinance. This is very important
especially when we are if we are adding
[1:44:33]
a section to the ordinance that
addresses something that is totally new.
[1:44:38]
For example, data center. What is a data
center? Everybody that word is common
[1:44:42]
out there but it may mean a lot of
different things to different people
[1:44:46]
especially with regard to what goes on
inside a structure. So that is the first
[1:44:50]
element that this uh amendment proposes.
The second is to address smoking and
[1:44:56]
vaping around public parks. Uh public
parks are supposed to be places that are
[1:45:01]
inviting. They are open to use by the
general public at large. Everybody
[1:45:05]
should be able to go there and use it
and and use it. Sometimes certain
[1:45:10]
activities especially with regard to
things like smoking uh in close
[1:45:15]
proximity to the park can be deterrent
to folks with various health conditions
[1:45:19]
in particular. So to ensure that the
public parks remain open, inviting and
[1:45:24]
usable by the public at large, the
proposal is to limit or restrict vaping
[1:45:32]
activities and smoking within 500 ft of
public parks. Of course, there may be
[1:45:37]
certain uses that have designated
smoking areas. You may have a particular
[1:45:42]
use that has a designated smoking area,
a business on that particular piece of
[1:45:46]
property, especially if it exists
already. that will become kind of what
[1:45:50]
the common term is grandfather so to
speak that is covered in the zoning
[1:45:54]
code. Uh before I come to the element on
data centers with regard to reduction in
[1:46:01]
the maximum height of freestanding signs
the office district serves as a kind of
[1:46:06]
a transitional district between
residential area and more intensive
[1:46:11]
commercial areas. Somehow in the zoning
code the signs that are permitted there
[1:46:17]
are as intensive as those or intrusive
as those permitted in the commercial in
[1:46:22]
highly intensive commercial zone
industry. So this change is intended to
[1:46:27]
recognize that difference that
transitional difference as one goes from
[1:46:31]
residential to commercial areas. The
same with neighborhood commercial C1
[1:46:35]
zoning district. So the proposal is to
reduce those signs in height from 15 ft
[1:46:40]
to 8 ft to make them more transitional,
more conforming, less intrusive with
[1:46:47]
adjoining residential districts and also
to reduce the height of signs in the
[1:46:53]
highway commercial C2, general
commercial C3 and plan commercial zoning
[1:46:57]
district C4 from 25 ft to 12 ft. We
already we've been practicing this
[1:47:02]
policy in the city for about the past
five years.
[1:47:07]
But it's never really been in the books.
We want to give it teeth by actually
[1:47:10]
putting it in the books. The if you look
at the sign, the old shine time,
[1:47:18]
Oldtown car wash, what was previously
Oldtown Cars, that sign is 12 ft high
[1:47:22]
and it's clearly visible to everybody on
Highway 305. If it were 25 ft high,
[1:47:27]
rather it looks like when you're
driving, you're driving under the sign
[1:47:30]
and you can't see it. So we've been
implementing this 12 ft high policy in
[1:47:34]
the city for a while and it hasn't posed
any problem to anybody. We just want to
[1:47:38]
make sure that we have it in the books
and as such it gives some teeth it gives
[1:47:42]
uh staff some authority when enforcing
that particular regulation
[1:47:47]
with regard to signs in the M1 and M2
zoning district size height and
[1:47:52]
locations. The zoning ordinance, the
only district districts in the city of
[1:47:58]
Holy Branch that allows signs that are
larger than 400 than 100 square ft
[1:48:04]
really permit signs up to 400 square ft
is in the M1 light industrial and the M2
[1:48:09]
heavy industrial districts. A sign that
is 400 square ft large is basically a
[1:48:14]
billboard.
So really billboards one can say
[1:48:18]
billboards are only permitted in the M1
M2 districts in the city. But there is
[1:48:22]
no distinction
between on premise and off-remise signs.
[1:48:27]
A billboard is an off-remise advertising
sign. So you could have let's say FedEx
[1:48:33]
for example, your sign could be a
billboard 400 ft large. You could go on
[1:48:38]
Goodman Road Legacy Park and have one of
those industrial Amazon put up a sign 5
[1:48:43]
400 ft large. That is what our zoning
ordinance basically currently permits.
[1:48:48]
The clean up here is to make a
distinction between on premise signs
[1:48:52]
that are usually should be smaller in
size, maximum 100 square feet, just as
[1:48:56]
you have in commercial areas and off-
premise advertising signs which are up
[1:49:01]
to 400 square ft large. Those off-remise
advertising signs will become subject to
[1:49:07]
conditional use permits as opposed to
onremise signs that are treated just
[1:49:12]
like signs for any other business. So if
this were approved, a billboard in the
[1:49:16]
city will have to go through a
conditional use permit approver by the
[1:49:20]
board of zoning adjustment. A key reason
for that will be to ensure that wherever
[1:49:25]
that billboard is proposed, the
character of that corridor is taken into
[1:49:29]
consideration. It's important to avoid a
situation where you know you have too
[1:49:33]
many billboards along a particular
corridor and driving down the city. All
[1:49:37]
you see that B billboards sometimes have
in certain uh highways. The second
[1:49:43]
element about this with respect to
locations is the distance between these
[1:49:51]
very large off-remise advertising signs
is proposed to be increased from 1,000
[1:49:55]
ft to 2,000 ft to avoid overcrowding of
these corridors. That's the purpose to
[1:50:00]
avoid the corridor becoming overcrowded.
And for height, the billboard signs will
[1:50:06]
remain maximum 35 ft high. But for
onremise advertising
[1:50:12]
industrial use that will be reduced to
12 ft high just as we have in commercial
[1:50:16]
areas.
With regard to data centers which I wish
[1:50:22]
to focus on as far as this particular
regulations are concerned,
[1:50:28]
the M1 zoning district in the city
has this particular language for
[1:50:34]
permitted uses. The zoning ordinance has
conditional uses and permitted uses.
[1:50:40]
Permitted uses are permitted by right.
Anybody wants to do anything on that
[1:50:44]
particular piece of property. All you
need to do is to submit a site plan to
[1:50:48]
the city is reviewed approved
administratively and the applicant goes
[1:50:52]
in and puts up the the building or
proceeds with the development. It does
[1:50:55]
not go before the board of zoning
adjustment for a conditional use. It
[1:50:58]
does not go before the planning
commission. It does not come before the
[1:51:01]
board of adamant. So permitted uses, one
of the permitted uses listed in the M1
[1:51:07]
and as such also permitted in the M2
zoning district
[1:51:12]
is this use number six says wholesale
merchandising or storage warehouses with
[1:51:20]
or without accessory retail sales and
offices. Data centers as they are
[1:51:25]
commonly known are essentially storage
warehouses for data. That's really what
[1:51:31]
they are with or without accessory
components associated with them. So
[1:51:36]
somebody walked into the city of Holy
Branch today with a data center
[1:51:40]
application that person could argue that
all I have in front of me is a storage
[1:51:46]
warehouse for data and as such in the M1
district I'm permitted by right and in
[1:51:52]
M2 district I'm permitted by right.
Person could make that argument and we
[1:51:57]
would not have a leg to stand on based
on this particular provision.
[1:52:01]
In this regard, the city is pretty
susceptible, exposed so to speak,
[1:52:06]
considering the negative externalities
or the impact that data centers pose,
[1:52:11]
just as from what we have seen around us
go on in Memphis, go on in other cities
[1:52:16]
like South Haven. The proposal,
the first thing with regard to this is
[1:52:26]
to remove data center from the
possibility of it being a permitted use
[1:52:31]
and making it a conditional use in the
M1 and M2 zoning district. As a
[1:52:38]
conditional use, they will be subject
therefore to all the general conditions
[1:52:42]
of a conditional use permit. I'm glad
you just went through this experience
[1:52:46]
with a draward. So those are the general
conditions. Those seven conditions,
[1:52:51]
those are character of the area impact
on traffic. All these conditions, those
[1:52:55]
are general for every conditional use
permit that comes in. It gives the board
[1:52:59]
of zoning adjustment a lot of tip to be
able to vet the application. If it were
[1:53:04]
approved or denied, let's say it was
approved, anybody affected the way the
[1:53:09]
city ordinance reaches, anybody who is
affected by the decision of the board of
[1:53:13]
zoning adjustment can appeal it to the
board of adaman and the board will have
[1:53:17]
the opportunity to look at that
particular application. Right now, the
[1:53:21]
board has no opportunity to look at
anything. If it were submitted, it will
[1:53:25]
be bu straight away. So this is intended
to move it from being kind of a
[1:53:30]
permitted use by right to making it a
conditional use permit subject to review
[1:53:34]
decision by board of zoning adjustment
appealable to the board of adamment. As
[1:53:38]
a matter of fact any adment the mayor
and any adment can ask that it be
[1:53:44]
appealed can appeal and require that it
be brought before the board.
[1:53:48]
basically what cities regulation says
anybody affected by it anybody can can
[1:53:53]
appeal that the decision should be
brought before the board of adamant for
[1:53:56]
action. So there are those general
conditions but also there are specific
[1:54:01]
conditions that are proposed
in the text before you with regard to
[1:54:06]
data centers. Just as you had the
general conditions for for for dropy
[1:54:11]
yards and also some very specific
conditions in the same way same thing
[1:54:15]
with convenience store with pumps. There
are some very specific conditions. You
[1:54:20]
must be at signalized intersection for
example to have uh to qualify for a
[1:54:25]
convenience store with fuel pumps in the
city. In the same way you have the
[1:54:29]
general conditions for the conditional
use permit that will be applicable and
[1:54:32]
you will have some very specific
conditions that will be applicable to
[1:54:37]
data centers with regard to their review
and permission as conditional use
[1:54:42]
permits. What are these specific
conditions? They address issues of
[1:54:46]
locations, setbacks, things that will be
pro prohibited. If we receive an
[1:54:52]
application, one of the requirement is
that the applicant will have to submit a
[1:54:56]
utility and infrastructure plan to the
city. That is critical.
[1:55:01]
This particular use across the country
has significant infrastructure demands
[1:55:07]
with regard to power, with regard to
water for example. And right now we
[1:55:12]
don't have any of those in the books.
No, none of such requirements exist.
[1:55:16]
These particular regulations will
specifically provide and require any
[1:55:21]
applicant to provide to the city and
infra a utility and infrastructure plan.
[1:55:26]
There must also be a site plan. That
plan must address how will power be
[1:55:31]
provided to that particular facility in
a way that it does not pose any negative
[1:55:36]
impact to residents of the city of Olive
Branch. Water and waste water.
[1:55:43]
Do we have sufficient water in the city?
The plan must address water and
[1:55:47]
wastewater issue. The plan must address
the provision of gas community digital
[1:55:53]
ecosystem footprint. Sometimes data
centers are not all together. Everything
[1:55:57]
about them is not negative. It's not
negative. It's not just also about you
[1:56:03]
know you can have a vacant piece of
property that is developed and taxes
[1:56:07]
increase because of that. But they can
also provide a certain digital footprint
[1:56:13]
with respect to optic fibers that can be
beneficial to hospitals, to other
[1:56:17]
institutions such as schools, all of
those elements. How would this benefit
[1:56:21]
the city of Holybrang so to speak,
beyond just the tax element, you know,
[1:56:26]
ground and roof mounted equipment, data
centers, if you look at the picture in
[1:56:30]
front of you, that is an example of a
data center. They have a lot of
[1:56:34]
equipment often on the roof and also on
the ground. It can really turn an area
[1:56:38]
into a cluster looking overcrowded and
and losing a sense of aesthetics. How
[1:56:43]
will all of that be burdened?
You know, the regulations
[1:56:49]
call for the provision of those
measures, screening and assessing
[1:56:55]
structures, cooling and energy systems.
A lot of the water that is used in data
[1:57:01]
centers is really about cooling. You
have to cool those computers otherwise
[1:57:05]
they will catch fire.
So how would those be cooled in a way
[1:57:09]
that water in the city is not negatively
impacted aquifer and so on, water
[1:57:16]
availability, water pressure, perimeter
fencing and security. How will all of
[1:57:20]
that be provided? The regulations also
include performance standards.
[1:57:29]
Often public opposition with regard to
data centers focus on these four or five
[1:57:34]
main things. noise the experience from
South Heaven is significant you know uh
[1:57:39]
generator and testing you have all the
turbines the generators that are
[1:57:44]
producing all this noise cooling waste
heat that comes from these facilities
[1:57:49]
the computers they keep running 24 hours
you stock all of them in one giant
[1:57:54]
building you get a lot of heat coming
from there how do you manage all of that
[1:57:59]
in the city so the regulations are
intended to address all of this I will
[1:58:04]
speak to a number of the key adverse
impact or negative externalities
[1:58:09]
elements and key points in the
regulations that are intended to address
[1:58:14]
this. The first has to do with noise.
Number of provisions or stipulations are
[1:58:21]
proposed in the ordinance to address the
noise issue. One of the approaches used
[1:58:26]
is all data centers are not the same.
They're not all the same. They in
[1:58:31]
different tiers. There are some of them
that more are more intensive what is
[1:58:34]
called a super scale you know the X AI
those are usually the last one the last
[1:58:39]
ones that create all the noise there are
some data centers that don't even
[1:58:44]
provide or do not need external
redundancy measures you know external
[1:58:49]
turbines and so on they don't include
all of that so the first year these are
[1:58:53]
low intensity data centers they're less
than 50,000 square feet in gross floor
[1:58:58]
area less than 10 megawatt peak
electrical demand less than 50,000
[1:59:03]
gallons average daily water demand less
than no and one thing I should say is no
[1:59:08]
matter how less this is all of them
still have to provide those
[1:59:13]
infrastructure plans everybody goes
through the the process everybody no
[1:59:18]
matter the tier that a data center falls
through it in so far as it's a data
[1:59:22]
center it has to go through a
conditional use permit and meet all the
[1:59:25]
criteria these tears just simply
acknowledge the nature of the industry.
[1:59:32]
Can put it that way. With regard to tier
one, the minimum setback if
[1:59:39]
a low inensity data center does not it
has no diesel generators, no gas
[1:59:45]
turbines, no combustion based backup
generation. Then it has to be minimum
[1:59:51]
500 ft from all lines of schools,
hospitals, child care facilities,
[1:59:56]
nursing homes, public parks, religious
institutions and residentially used,
[2:00:01]
residentially zoned properties. These
are usually the elements that create the
[2:00:06]
negative externalities, the noise and so
on. If it doesn't involve any of this,
[2:00:11]
then it's just like any other you can
call it small warehouse almost like a
[2:00:14]
contractor storage yacht so to speak. So
that is required to be minimum 500 ft
[2:00:19]
separation from those protected uses. If
it involves any of this then it has to
[2:00:25]
be minimum 1,000 ft.
For the second tier these are more
[2:00:31]
intensive as one goes up. The building
for example increases from 50,000 to
[2:00:37]
250,000 square ft of gross floor area.
peak demand increases from less than 10
[2:00:44]
10 to 10 megawatts to 50 megawatt. If
you fall within this tier two, it has to
[2:00:50]
be minimum 1,000 ft from all the
protected uses.
[2:00:55]
terms of location if it is a tier three
this are the super scale greater than
[2:01:01]
250,000 square feet of gross floor area
greater than 50 megawatt peak electrical
[2:01:06]
demand greater than 500,000 gallons
average daily water demand basically
[2:01:12]
what you have in S heaven what you have
in in Memphis if you have any of this it
[2:01:16]
has to be minimum 2,000 ft from all lot
lines of schools hospitals child care
[2:01:22]
facilities nursing homes public parks
religious just institutions,
[2:01:26]
residentially used, residentially zoned
property. So this buffer, this setback
[2:01:31]
requirement is one of the measures with
regard to dealing with noise. The second
[2:01:36]
and the third, the board of zoning
adjustment may require that that
[2:01:41]
distance be increased
when reviewing the application. So the
[2:01:46]
regulations before you have that
provision. the board of zoning
[2:01:49]
adjustment can look at the particular
area, look at the other existing uses
[2:01:54]
around them, especially if they're
already noisy because noise has a
[2:01:57]
tendency to kind of add noise, the noise
waves, they add to each other and they
[2:02:02]
can become significant. So the board of
zoning adjustment can require that that
[2:02:06]
distance be increased. Lastly, and this
is important, the noise from routine
[2:02:11]
operations including primary and
accessory structures and uses and all
[2:02:16]
energy systems that include generators,
turbines, anything from that particular
[2:02:21]
data from a data center shall not exceed
45 dibels and not all 45 dbc between
[2:02:29]
9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. that is in the
night and shall not exceed 65 dBA and 55
[2:02:35]
dbc at any other times that is during
the day. 45 dBA is the sound of a
[2:02:42]
refrigerator in the house.
So inside a single family home 45 dBA is
[2:02:49]
the sound of your refrigerator. Nobody
in their bedroom hears the sound of a
[2:02:53]
refrigerator booming in the kitchen for
example. And this is not the sound at
[2:02:58]
the residential property line property
line. This is the sound at the property
[2:03:04]
line of the data center which shall be
minimum 500 a,000 or 2,000 ft
[2:03:12]
from the residential property. So
there's absolutely no way that with this
[2:03:17]
level of sound control anybody living in
a residential property will hear any
[2:03:21]
sound. We actually bought a sound meter.
I went out and I carried out an
[2:03:25]
experiment twice using this and there
was absolutely no sound. Three times
[2:03:30]
during the day I carried out an
experiment using this. So this is not
[2:03:34]
the sound at the property line of a
residential property. This is the sound
[2:03:38]
at the property line of the data center
which must be 500, 1,000 or 2,000 ft
[2:03:45]
depending on the tier from a residential
land use.
[2:03:50]
The second has to do with water. Any
water used in that facility must be
[2:03:55]
closed loop. I mentioned we have to
ensure in other words the water
[2:04:00]
basically has to be recycled to cool the
system. Uh the study must show no
[2:04:05]
negative impact on public use of water
in the city of Olive Branch with respect
[2:04:09]
to quantity with respect to water
pressure with respect to cost to other
[2:04:14]
residents in the city. The study must
show that there will be no negative
[2:04:18]
impact. And if that impact begins to
show up, the board of zoning adjustment
[2:04:23]
will step in and and and address that
that particular issue. Containment
[2:04:28]
system required for all cooling fluids.
No discharge of untreated processed
[2:04:33]
water or chemical waste to municipal
storm water systems, drainage
[2:04:36]
infrastructure or the sanitary sew
system at any time. And lastly, any
[2:04:41]
water infrastructure upgrades shall be
fully the responsibility of the data
[2:04:45]
center developer, not the responsibility
of the city of Oly branch. One other
[2:04:49]
very important one I forgot to include
in here.
[2:04:53]
Uh city well where we have our wells in
the city. You cannot have a data center
[2:04:58]
within 1,000 ft of a protected wellhead
in the city. So that is also included in
[2:05:04]
the regulations.
The next has to do with power. The study
[2:05:10]
must show no negative impact on public
use of power availability cost in the
[2:05:15]
city. Any power infrastructure upgrades
shall be fully the responsibility of the
[2:05:20]
developer.
The use of systems such as generators
[2:05:25]
can produce all kinds of fumes
environmental concerns. The regulations
[2:05:30]
specify that any backup diesel generate
generators shall be a minimum of tier
[2:05:36]
four. That is the highest under EPA with
respect to environmental cleanliness is
[2:05:40]
the highest uh level that you can have
and generators shall be tested only
[2:05:44]
during the hours of 12:00 p.m. to 5:00
p.m. Monday through Friday during the
[2:05:49]
day. Those are the most intensive busy
hours in the city. With respect to waste
[2:05:53]
heat, the study must show no negative
impact on public use of power or heat in
[2:05:58]
the system. any discharge, venting or
exhaust from any equipment from that
[2:06:03]
data center cannot raise the ambient
temperature at the property line of that
[2:06:08]
property up to 4 ft. You know,
[2:06:20]
machinery or operation shall not raise
the ambient temperature at any external
[2:06:25]
perimeter property line above naturally
occurring conditions when measured at a
[2:06:30]
height of 4 ft above ground level.
So that is to ensure that we do not have
[2:06:36]
heat dissipated and the instruments to
measure this. All of that have been
[2:06:40]
provided in the regulations. Any rooftop
or wall-mounted heat exhaust systems
[2:06:44]
shall be equipped such that we do not
have heat escaping from these areas.
[2:06:50]
One area that is what addressing is
decommissioning.
[2:06:54]
Data centers can sometimes almost be
like gas stations. They can go out of
[2:06:57]
business in order to relocated to
different areas. There are attempts
[2:07:01]
today to relocate them to space. They
are all relocated to space. What happens
[2:07:06]
to the ones that have been constructed
on earth so to speak here on the ground?
[2:07:10]
The city protects itself. These
regulations seek to protect the city by
[2:07:14]
addressing the element of
decommissioning before operations begin.
[2:07:17]
every data center. This is basically
like what we do for subdivisions. Every
[2:07:22]
data center operator must provide to the
city of olive branch an irrevocable
[2:07:26]
letter of credit of sufficient amount to
cover the elements of decommissioning
[2:07:30]
and it's irrevocable. That means it
basically rend so far as the life it's
[2:07:35]
not something that the very next year
it's it's going to expire. No, it
[2:07:38]
remains in the books.
The board has before it a number of
[2:07:43]
options. About four months ago when the
mayor asked staff planning staff to
[2:07:48]
start looking into this issue of data
centers there were basically a number of
[2:07:53]
options before us mainly three the first
was a do nothing option just let it go
[2:07:59]
don't bother about it you know do
nothing we hear in the term data centers
[2:08:03]
it may come one day it may not come to
branch so do nothing about it that was
[2:08:08]
the first option we had that option does
not protect the public interest in any
[2:08:13]
Today it leaves us, it leaves the city
of Olive Branch as exposed as it were in
[2:08:18]
Memphis, as it were in South Heaven.
Noise pollution, problems with water,
[2:08:24]
problems with electricity and so on. So
that was that is a do nothing option
[2:08:29]
that we did not find attainable.
The second is to impose a moratorum.
[2:08:38]
This is an option that certain cities
and counties have adopted across the
[2:08:42]
state and across um across the country.
But it still leaves the city exposed to
[2:08:50]
legal challenges with regard to any
moratorium when it comes to a use. A
[2:08:54]
data center potential developer could
always argue that a moratorium, for
[2:08:59]
example, denies that applicant certain
due process rights. I want to be able to
[2:09:04]
have my day before the city before any
legal entity approving uh entity to
[2:09:10]
examine my application. But the
moratorium essentially denies that
[2:09:13]
opportunity. It leaves the city
unprotected if a judge overturns a
[2:09:17]
moratorum and that is beginning to
happen across in in
[2:09:21]
the country where those moratoriums are
beginning to be challenged by data
[2:09:25]
center applicants. I forgotten the city.
I was reading one this morning. the the
[2:09:30]
potential data center. The city passed a
moratorium. Potential data center
[2:09:34]
applicant filed a lawsuit and then the
board immediately met and overturned
[2:09:39]
their own moratorium because they
realize how long how much the city was
[2:09:42]
exposed and if a judge were to overturn
that moratorum then the very next day
[2:09:47]
the data center applicant could walk
into the office and hand over an
[2:09:50]
application and we will be unprotected.
So that was not an option a wise option
[2:09:55]
to take. The third option is what the
planning commission did basically to
[2:10:00]
review this application to review the
regulations and the planning commission
[2:10:04]
has had three public hearings on this
made a number of changes from what the
[2:10:09]
initial proposal was added a number of
things have start worked on this for 3
[2:10:14]
months and then finally proposed the
regulations recommended for approval the
[2:10:19]
regulations that you have before you. So
the planning commission at its meeting
[2:10:22]
on July 14 approved and recommended same
that the board of adaman amend the
[2:10:28]
zoning ordinance of the city of olive
branch by repealing the language that is
[2:10:32]
struck in in the draft that you have and
adopting the provisions that are
[2:10:36]
underlined in the concern sections of
the zoning ordinance attached in your
[2:10:41]
packet. Amendments I should indicate
include the with regard to signs in the
[2:10:48]
M1 and M2 zoning districts. Those are
also before the board for approval in
[2:10:53]
the text that you have. That concludes
staff's presentation. Thank you.
[2:10:58]
» Thank you, Dr. Saw. Board, any questions
on this staff report?
[2:11:02]
» I got I got a couple.
Can you go back to where
[2:11:07]
were you with the timeline? Was there a
time on that like uh no
[2:11:15]
generators at night and things at
certain hours? Was it 900 pm? Yes, sir.
[2:11:20]
I believe. Yes.
Generator shall only be tested basically
[2:11:25]
during the day between 12:00 p.m. and
5:00 p.m. Those are the most active
[2:11:30]
hours of city life, so to speak. Not in
the morning when folks may still be
[2:11:34]
sleeping or in the evening after work.
That can and even with this testing,
[2:11:39]
this does not imply that while those
generators are being tested within those
[2:11:43]
hours, the the noise at the property
line can increase beyond 45 dibs. No. At
[2:11:49]
all times, the noise at the property
line cannot exceed 45 dibels whether
[2:11:54]
you're testing the generator or not
testing the generator.
[2:11:56]
» So, so that's to stop the noise from
traveling. I think they up to
[2:12:03]
4 and a half miles on level on quiet
night. They say that some of the low
[2:12:08]
dust can you can hear the humming. I
know you can the one over in South
[2:12:12]
Haven. You can hear
>> the the the humming noise comes from the
[2:12:18]
DBC element. This is low frequency,
>> right?
[2:12:20]
» So our regulations are written to take
care of both high frequency and low
[2:12:24]
frequency noise
>> to eliminate it at the property line.
[2:12:28]
» At at the property line. Yes, sir.
>> Okay.
[2:12:30]
» So at the property line, whether it's
low frequency noise or high frequency
[2:12:33]
noise, all of it is controlled.
>> So if it ever increases past that
[2:12:38]
that maximum decibel at the property
line, what what do we do? shut them down
[2:12:43]
or are they outside the do they lose
their conditional use or what is the
[2:12:48]
proposal on that?
>> The board of zoning adjustment has the
[2:12:51]
powers to withdraw the conditional use
permit.
[2:12:54]
» So is it immediate or
>> I'm sorry sir
[2:12:57]
» requires a hearing
>> a hearing it would require a public
[2:13:00]
hearing. So if we had complaints that
this particular data center noise is,
[2:13:05]
you know, they're getting noise from it
in the neighborhood, we will go to the
[2:13:08]
property line, we'll do all the
measurements, notify the property owner
[2:13:12]
and basically say you're in violation.
You have to tone down whatever noise you
[2:13:17]
are producing here. If that doesn't
happen, we'll bring the applicant, the
[2:13:21]
developer before the board of zoning
adjustment. And the board of zoning
[2:13:24]
adjustment has the authority to pull
that conditional use permit to basically
[2:13:27]
revoke it and require that that data
center be shut. And the board of zoning
[2:13:31]
adjustment has done that with some
businesses in the city.
[2:13:33]
» But before they ever get to this point,
they'd have to get a cup or conditional
[2:13:37]
use permit. To ever get to that point,
they'd have to agree that this is what
[2:13:42]
they're going to do.
>> Yes, sir.
[2:13:43]
» Okay. their study and all the
structures, all the instruments they
[2:13:47]
have in there will have to show that
they will meet this standard and they
[2:13:51]
will commit to it. The board of zoning
adjustment in the granting of the
[2:13:54]
conditional use permit is basically
granting it subject to all these
[2:13:58]
conditions being met. So if at any time
any of these conditions are not been
[2:14:02]
met, then the data center is in
violation of the conditions of his
[2:14:06]
conditional use permit and that permit
is therefore subject to revocation.
[2:14:12]
We have nothing in the books right now.
We have nothing.
[2:14:18]
» Additional questions on the staff
report.
[2:14:21]
» One question. I know everybody's
concerned about the data centers, but on
[2:14:25]
the office signs where we're reducing
the monuments on the office. We're
[2:14:31]
reducing the height they can have. Do we
have any signs in the office areas now
[2:14:36]
that are going to exceed it and have to
be grandfathered in or is that going to
[2:14:40]
be an issue?
>> If any sign exceeds it would be
[2:14:43]
grandfathered.
>> Okay.
[2:14:45]
» It will not it will not be taken on to
the day that the sign is taken down then
[2:14:49]
it can it will be required to meet those
those new regulations.
[2:14:52]
» All right.
>> Do we have any smoke shop things or
[2:14:58]
whatever cigar what are they called?
cigar bars or whatever they are within
[2:15:02]
that will be outside the ordinance and
be ground or will they something like
[2:15:07]
that are they automatically outside the
ordinance
[2:15:10]
» immediately
>> within 500 ft of a city park for example
[2:15:14]
» u
>> I don't I'm not aware of any
[2:15:18]
» none would be in violation today
>> in violation
[2:15:25]
» any additional questions before public
comments
[2:15:30]
public comments. Dion Jones.
[2:15:39]
Thank you, board. Thank you, Mayor Board
of Alderman. Uh for those who may not
[2:15:43]
know me, I serve as uh chairman of the
Olive Branch Planning Commission. And I
[2:15:48]
just want to be clear, I'm not speaking
tonight on behalf of every commissioner.
[2:15:50]
The commission has spoken through the
recommendations it's forward to the
[2:15:54]
board. I'm also a resident of Olive
Branch and I care about the responsible
[2:15:58]
growth, our neighborhoods, our
infrastructure and what the community
[2:16:01]
will will look like in 20 or 30 years
from now. I don't believe we should
[2:16:06]
approach this issue as simply being for
data centers or against data centers.
[2:16:11]
Our responsibility in planning is to
make sure that if one is proposed, the
[2:16:15]
city has the information, standards, and
tools necessary to evaluate the
[2:16:20]
particular project responsibly. There
are legitimate concerns. Water use,
[2:16:25]
electrical demand, power generation,
noise, backup generation, generators,
[2:16:30]
infrastructure, setbacks, and impacts on
the surrounding property. Those
[2:16:35]
questions deserve answers, but the
questions should not automatically
[2:16:39]
become a conclusion.
Data centers can differ significantly in
[2:16:43]
size, cooling technology, water use,
power supply, and impact. A problem
[2:16:48]
associated with a facility somewhere
else may give us an important question
[2:16:51]
to ask here, but it does not necessarily
give us the answer. We also looked at
[2:16:55]
this from a land use perspective. Olive
Branch does not have an unlimited supply
[2:16:59]
of large industrial tracks. How we use
that land matters, not just today, but
[2:17:04]
for the long-term development of the
city. There was also another important
[2:17:08]
consideration during the process. It was
explained that without a specific
[2:17:13]
definition and regulations for data
centers, a proposal could potentially
[2:17:16]
fall under existing warehouse or storage
classifications and depending on zoning
[2:17:21]
become a use by ride. So to me, creating
regulations for data centers does not
[2:17:27]
open the door to them. It gives the city
a better ability to control that door.
[2:17:32]
It also allows us the questions to ask
the questions and require information
[2:17:36]
before making a decision. How much water
will be used? How much electricity will
[2:17:41]
you require? And how will it be
supplied? How will the facility be
[2:17:44]
cooled? Whether the noise,
infrastructure and surrounding land land
[2:17:47]
use impacts. Then evaluate the actual
proposal against established standards.
[2:17:53]
And I think the distinction is very
important tonight. Establishing
[2:17:57]
regulations for data centers is not the
same thing as approving data centers. A
[2:18:02]
future proposal still has to stand on
its own merits and the city retains the
[2:18:05]
ability to say no when a project is not
appropriate. The planning commission has
[2:18:10]
already demonstrated that we recommend
that we can recommend against a
[2:18:13]
particular proposal while also believing
that strong regulations should be in
[2:18:17]
place for whatever comes next. I respect
the residents who have taken the time to
[2:18:22]
come here tonight and voice our
concerns. I simply hope our decisions
[2:18:25]
continue to be driven by facts rather
than assumptions. That we ask the
[2:18:29]
questions that we require the
information. consider the land,
[2:18:32]
establish strong standards, evaluate
each project on its own merits. That is
[2:18:38]
what I believe responsible planning
looks like, both as a planning
[2:18:41]
commissioner and as someone who calls
Olive Branch home. Thank you.
[2:18:46]
Right on three minutes, Mr. Jones,
you've probably been on the other side
[2:18:50]
of this podium before or the lectan.
Miss Ashley Shield Sh. Miss Ashley Sh.
[2:18:57]
Okay.
[2:19:18]
Hi, my name is Ashley Shide. I live at
6303 Darren Drive. Uh, Mr. Mayor and
[2:19:24]
members of the board, I want to start by
thanking Dr. Song and Mr. Lewis um and
[2:19:30]
the board of planning for the work
that's gone into developing these data
[2:19:33]
center regulations. I wasn't sure how to
sign up today because I'm very much for
[2:19:38]
this ordinance, but I do think that
there are a few areas that still leave
[2:19:41]
the city a little bit vulnerable. Uh the
updated criteria are significantly
[2:19:45]
better than what was originally
presented and the city has made some
[2:19:48]
very meaningful improvements. I believe
that we share the same goal of creating
[2:19:52]
a strong ordinance that serves the
interest of the city while
[2:19:55]
simultaneously protecting its residents.
However, I don't believe we are quite
[2:19:59]
there yet. I'd like to suggest three
things to be added to make the
[2:20:04]
regulation stronger. First, uh put an
actual ceiling on water consumption. The
[2:20:09]
ordinance does a much better job of
monitoring water use, but there's an
[2:20:13]
important difference between monitoring
and limiting water consumption. I would
[2:20:18]
ask that the city establish a maximum
allowable water consumption based on
[2:20:21]
demonstrated excess capacity in all of
Branch's water system. Uh that limit
[2:20:26]
should take into account not only one
data center but the cumulative water
[2:20:30]
demand of every data center that could
eventually operate in our community.
[2:20:34]
Second, require a drought and water
emergency plan. The ordinance should
[2:20:39]
specifically address what happens if
Olive branch experiences drought
[2:20:43]
conditions, water shortages,
infrastructure failures, contamination,
[2:20:47]
or an emergency requiring water
conservation. During a water emergency,
[2:20:51]
I believe data centers should have
mandatory conservation requirements and
[2:20:55]
should be not be treated the same as
essential residential water use. Third,
[2:21:01]
uh require continuous noise monitoring.
The new noise standards are a major
[2:21:05]
improvement, but for the large tier
three facilities, I would ask for
[2:21:10]
continuous publicly accessible noise
monitoring at the residential side of
[2:21:14]
the property. Residents should not have
to call city hall at 2 in the morning
[2:21:18]
and say something is wrong with the
noise. The city should already have the
[2:21:22]
data and there should be clear
consequences when the facility exceeds
[2:21:26]
its permitted limits.
I believe Olive Branch can be a
[2:21:30]
community that welcomes responsible
economic development without sacrificing
[2:21:33]
the quality of life that brought people
here in the first place. This is not an
[2:21:37]
argument against data centers. It's an
argument for getting the rules right
[2:21:40]
before we approve them. The updated
criteria show that board of planning has
[2:21:44]
been willing to responsibly listen to
the public and make improvements. Our
[2:21:48]
wonderful city has been given the gift
of time, resources, and the ability to
[2:21:53]
learn from others mistakes. I am asking
you to respect your constituents
[2:21:57]
concerns, protect the people who are
already live here, and continue this
[2:22:01]
improvement process until we get it
right. Um, I'd actually like to end with
[2:22:05]
a question for Dr. Asang, and I believe
he sort of was touching on this a few
[2:22:10]
minutes ago, um, regarding conditional
use permit revocation. If a data center
[2:22:16]
violates the established ordinance, um
who specifically is responsible for
[2:22:21]
bringing this in front of the board of
zoning adjustment to revoke the cup? I
[2:22:26]
don't like is it you? Is it the mayor?
Um basically, who are we as a community
[2:22:31]
trusting to ensure the proposed
consequences occur if this ordinance is
[2:22:37]
violated? That's it. Thanks.
>> Thank you.
[2:22:41]
» Sure.
>> Question. uh the city's code enforcement
[2:22:46]
department is uh charged with enforcing
the zoning ordinance. So if there's a
[2:22:50]
violation of the terms of a conditional
use permit, the planning staff, which
[2:22:54]
has the code enforcement department,
would uh coordinate that with the
[2:22:58]
prosecutor uh in municipal court. If
there is not a satisfaction of those
[2:23:03]
conditions initially uh through an
appeal or hearing at the board of
[2:23:07]
adjustment level, if there's not an
addressing of those violations, the
[2:23:10]
board of adjustment can revoke that
conditional use permit. And if there's a
[2:23:14]
continued violation, there's a recourse
for the city either in municipal court
[2:23:18]
or in chancry court.
>> But it's the city staff that would be
[2:23:22]
responsible for enforcing uh the terms
of the ordinance or any violations
[2:23:26]
thereof.
>> Okay. I appreciate that.
[2:23:28]
» You're welcome. Thank you,
>> Mr. Michael Shide.
[2:23:41]
» Hi, good evening. Michael Sh. Thank you
for the opportunity to speak here. Um, I
[2:23:46]
too am in favor of a data center
ordinance, but I encourage the alderman
[2:23:49]
to consider strengthening the current
text to better protect the citizens of
[2:23:53]
Olive Branch. So, first, please don't
remove anything that's in the ordinance.
[2:23:57]
Now, it's it's good as is, but there are
some areas I believe can be strengthened
[2:24:01]
a bit. Um, first I ask you to take a
look at a particular set of paragraphs
[2:24:05]
in the document on page seven of the
ordinance. So, I have the the full text
[2:24:10]
here. It's a subsection B, location
setbacks. Um, there's some inconsistent
[2:24:16]
language in these paragraphs A through
D. Uh, if you look closely, the last
[2:24:21]
sentence of these paragraphs, um,
paragraph A refers to residential homes,
[2:24:27]
while paragraph B, C, and D say single
family homes. Just wondering if we could
[2:24:32]
change this language to be consistent.
Uh secondly, in paragraph B of this
[2:24:38]
section, it contains the phrase but only
applicable to AR properties developed
[2:24:43]
with single family homes. Um Chairman
Lewis advised during the July 14
[2:24:48]
planning committee meeting that the word
but be replaced with the word and uh and
[2:24:53]
it looks like this change might have
been missed. Um the these sections in in
[2:24:57]
general I believe are are critical to
maintaining the day-to-day quality of
[2:25:01]
life for residents at all branch uh by
keeping data centers a meaningful
[2:25:05]
distance from home. So I believe they're
very important paragraphs in there. Um
[2:25:10]
my other concern concern is regarding
the cumulative impact of data centers.
[2:25:14]
So um don't believe we should evaluate
data centers as if you know it will be
[2:25:19]
the only one. uh if all the branch has
two three 10 data centers lord help us
[2:25:23]
in the future the impacts are cumulative
um the 10 facilities shouldn't mean 10
[2:25:28]
separate projects um they should they
mean cumulative water consumption
[2:25:32]
electricity demand substations
generators noise traffic etc uh I would
[2:25:37]
ask the city to establish a mechanism
for reviewing the accumulative impact of
[2:25:42]
the existing and proposed data centers
as part of this ordinance thank you
[2:25:46]
» thank you anyone else to speak as a
proponent. You're in favor?
[2:25:51]
» Get his attention, mayor. Hey, where was
that? Uh what paragraph was that?
[2:25:59]
» Yeah. So, it's it's on page seven. So,
729 location setbacks and then
[2:26:05]
paragraphs A, B, C, and D.
>> Dr. Song, I would think the intent would
[2:26:09]
be for any residential housing, whether
it's multif family, single family, just
[2:26:13]
any residential housing. Correct.
>> Okay.
[2:26:17]
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[2:26:20]
Anyone else to speak in favor? You're a
proponent of this of this proposed
[2:26:25]
ordinance rather.
Speaking in opposition, Jake Crawford.
[2:26:39]
I'm not just speaking against data
centers. I am condemning data centers. I
[2:26:46]
implore you all to do the same.
>> [snorts]
[2:26:49]
» We're trying to figure out what a data
center is, but let's take it from the
[2:26:55]
mouth of the the mind behind the data
centers. Elon Musk was on an interview
[2:27:03]
and he said that his god, a new god was
going to rise out of the mids south.
[2:27:12]
I'm not a religious person, but I have
to face the fact that since the dawn of
[2:27:16]
mankind, man has been trying to define
God. And not just that, but trying to
[2:27:23]
become God. Elon Musk has a God complex.
He thinks his data center is so precious
[2:27:31]
because he has all this junk data. And
the thing about God, God is omnisient.
[2:27:38]
God is all knowing. And that's what Elon
Musk is trying to do. He's trying to
[2:27:43]
gain all the data he can create AI and
become like this artificial god. I don't
[2:27:50]
want any part of that in my city. I want
to I want to stay as far away from it as
[2:27:57]
I can. This is pernitious. It is
delimitous.
[2:28:03]
Albert Einstein said that he he he was
the most tellable person that ever lived
[2:28:10]
and he predicted that technology was
going to lead to the destruction of
[2:28:16]
mankind. Mankind the abolition of
mankind and the day is coming. If he was
[2:28:21]
here today and stop all these data
centers, he knew the end was near. Y'all
[2:28:26]
better wake up. God bless.
>> Thank you, Mr. Crawford.
[2:28:31]
Frankie Gardner or Frank Gardner. Mr.
Frank Gardner.
[2:28:41]
» Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Board of
Alderman. Um, I'm not going to get as
[2:28:45]
animated. Um, my concerns are mainly for
the ecological and environmental aspect
[2:28:52]
of things. Um, I moved to Olive Branch
roughly six years ago and small town is
[2:28:57]
why I moved here. My concern is there's
a lot of promise economically for a data
[2:29:03]
center. I get it. Uh trust me, from a
business perspect perspective, I get it.
[2:29:08]
Uh the promises of jobs are not as great
as they look. Um Dr. And mentioned in
[2:29:14]
regard to size of data centers for a
data center to make any real money, the
[2:29:19]
operator has to be a bug of 50 megawatts
at any given time. And their employment
[2:29:24]
is 10 to 15 people. It's not a large
headcount for the opportunity we're
[2:29:30]
talking about. Now, it may be a large
tax base, but I looked earlier on your
[2:29:34]
agenda and you're giving tax exemptions
to William Sonoma and then Barrett
[2:29:39]
distribution mentioned earlier.
What I'm worried about is you're going
[2:29:43]
to see that same thing happen in a few
years from these data centers, let alone
[2:29:47]
the econological impact we're going to
have from it. Now, there are options.
[2:29:52]
I'm a realist and I see this coming and
I realize that no matter [clears throat]
[2:29:56]
how emotional we get about it, we may
not be able to stop it. I understand.
[2:30:00]
Closed systems, Dr. And you've heard of
those obviously, right? Because you
[2:30:04]
mentioned it in your presentation.
Glycol systems, right?
[2:30:08]
Glycol cooled systems.
That's an option. I would like to see
[2:30:13]
something like that maybe in the
verbiage so that we can in turn maybe
[2:30:16]
not impact the water supply with that.
And then as well there's other options.
[2:30:20]
You mentioned decel levels. 85 dB is the
threshold of pain. Correct.
[2:30:25]
» Okay. If you will give give the public
comments to the board that have to have
[2:30:28]
a vote
>> that that will probably come up in the
[2:30:30]
future in regard to it. And I I I say
this with the idea of South Haven in
[2:30:34]
Memphis. What's going on right now from
Memphis's city council to be starting to
[2:30:39]
use the word moratorum? And I realize it
was mentioned and it's it's a legal
[2:30:43]
issue attached to that. I understand. So
another option may be to do an
[2:30:47]
exploratory research in regard to the
adverse effects of what we're looking
[2:30:51]
at. Again, we've got a great city here.
I moved here from Michigan uh roughly 50
[2:30:57]
years ago. We had a plant called the
Fermy 2 plant go against Lake Erie. You
[2:31:01]
can't drink the water from there. Okay.
We don't know because of the infancy of
[2:31:07]
data centers and the explosive. It's a
big opportunity. No one wants to miss
[2:31:11]
out because everyone is saying you're
going to go somewhere else then. But
[2:31:14]
ultimately, we should take the time to
really review it before we jump into it.
[2:31:19]
I realize we probably can't stop it. And
the money-wise, you probably can't turn
[2:31:24]
away from it.
But again, it's if for the citizens of
[2:31:27]
it, and again, the the the planning
meeting in June, it wasn't considered
[2:31:32]
even near my neighborhood. Chief and I
live in the same neighborhood. I think
[2:31:35]
we do too, Mr. Mayor. Um, we talked
about transportation off of 305 and
[2:31:40]
truck routes and all kinds of other
things that were mentioned earlier as
[2:31:43]
well. It's the same problem. Same
problem. And then uh the gentleman
[2:31:47]
previous uh Mr. Dickerson, you mentioned
it. Perception is reality when it comes
[2:31:52]
to property values. Whatever the state
assesses it is one thing, but in turn,
[2:31:56]
will somebody want to buy it? Okay.
Before we sign the check, let's please
[2:32:00]
review. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Final call for public
[2:32:04]
comments. For or against? Final call.
Public comments.
[2:32:09]
Come forward.
[2:32:17]
And since the clerk doesn't have your
card, would you give your name and
[2:32:21]
address so she can capture that for the
record?
[2:32:24]
» Um, my name is Pamela Boen. I'm 7107
Stanley Drive. Good evening, board. Um,
[2:32:30]
I just have two concerns. Well, many
concerns, but um
[2:32:34]
um see for the generators. I've heard of
cities um contemplating them use backup
[2:32:43]
for battery instead of gas turbines,
which I think would be a great
[2:32:48]
alternative. Um and then I think and I
would like to ask a question. Um where's
[2:32:55]
the waste water going? And I I think
that's a big concern. Um, I know in
[2:33:03]
Wyoming they just had a bacterium
problem and they couldn't use their
[2:33:08]
water for irrigation because of it. So,
I guess my question is I do like the um
[2:33:15]
what the man just talked about and I
forgot what it was called where they
[2:33:20]
conceal the water and reuse it, but
where's the waste water going to go and
[2:33:24]
how is it going to impact us?
Anything additional
[2:33:31]
» is that can I I don't know who to ask.
>> Well, really you're giving public
[2:33:34]
comments to the board. It's not a Q&A.
>> I can't I can't ask.
[2:33:37]
» We give some legal direction, but no,
it's really not a Q&A. You just give
[2:33:40]
your public comments about how you think
they should vote for the ordinance or
[2:33:44]
not.
>> So, how would I how would how would we
[2:33:47]
get that information?
>> I'm not sure.
[2:33:50]
» Well, I think that should be addressed
and should be
[2:33:52]
» It's not a question and answer. It's
your public. just stating at this point
[2:33:55]
since I couldn't answer your question.
Um I just think that should be
[2:33:59]
considered okay
>> of all the restrictions
[2:34:01]
» where the gray water goes where the
where the water that's been used goes.
[2:34:05]
Understood.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[2:34:07]
» Thank you.
>> Anyone else?
[2:34:13]
Seeing and hearing none, public comment
is hereby closed. Board any questions or
[2:34:19]
directions to staff?
[2:34:24]
Mayor, I'd like to make a couple of
comments if I could. [clears throat]
[2:34:27]
I um appreciate everybody's input and
and I think this has been a long process
[2:34:32]
for several months and thank you for
your concerns and also your research
[2:34:36]
that you've done. I think at this point
I'd like for everybody to realize we are
[2:34:40]
not approving or allowing any data
centers tonight. Uh I would commend our
[2:34:45]
staff on the excellent job they did on
research to improve the situation that
[2:34:49]
Olive Branch could be in should someone
want to build a data center here. Uh I
[2:34:54]
think it's a a great job of research. I
think it was well thought out and it
[2:34:58]
definitely protects not only the city
but our citizens. And I would like to
[2:35:03]
say this that um every morning most of
us get up at least I do and we kind of
[2:35:08]
scroll through our phone and start
looking at stuff. Then we go to work and
[2:35:13]
we create documents. We create records
that need to be stored somewhere. And on
[2:35:18]
weekends and vacations, most of us take
this device and take pictures of our
[2:35:22]
memories and we also like those stored
somewhere. So, I get it that we have
[2:35:27]
concerns and they're rightfully taken to
do acknowledgement and I think this
[2:35:32]
document puts us in a great position to
protect ourselves and I'd like to
[2:35:36]
further add that we can also add to them
at a later point and further make them
[2:35:41]
beneficial to the city and the citizens
as a whole if need be. Uh so mayor with
[2:35:46]
with those comments if nobody else on
the board has any questions or comments
[2:35:51]
I will tender a motion to approve the
zoning uh ordinance adjustments as
[2:35:56]
presented.
>> Miss Hamilton comments. You have
[2:35:59]
comments?
>> No.
[2:36:00]
» Okay. Any other comments?
>> I I will make a comment that I'm sure
[2:36:06]
not many people here know when when
people talk about data centers there. I
[2:36:11]
hear a lot of comments and read a lot of
comments about how dangerous they are to
[2:36:15]
the environment and to people in
general. I found out this weekend, I've
[2:36:20]
been volunteering at the St. Jude
Classic this weekend and I I talked to
[2:36:24]
somebody that works out there.
FedEx uh the St. Jude has got a data
[2:36:30]
center right on their campus,
three stories, 65,000 square feet, which
[2:36:36]
would be a tier two here.
If St. you doesn't think that it's
[2:36:41]
dangerous to its patients who are there
with cancer, to the doctors and staff
[2:36:47]
that work there, the families that are
staying on site don't think it's that
[2:36:53]
dangerous to have a tier 2 data center
right there on their campus. I I know
[2:36:59]
there's different levels of it and and
South Haven's been a nightmare,
[2:37:05]
but all data centers are not evil
and and I know a lot of people see when
[2:37:10]
they hear that word, they just cringe.
They don't want anything to do with it.
[2:37:14]
They don't want one around at all, but
they're not all as bad as South Haven
[2:37:20]
and other parts of the country that have
had really bad problems with them. And I
[2:37:23]
think this ordinance protects us. It
limits the ability of a data center to
[2:37:29]
come to autoation to just a very few
properties.
[2:37:33]
If anybody saw an actual map of once
this gets done, they're going to be
[2:37:38]
surprised at how few locations would
ever be able to have a data center here
[2:37:42]
in the city of VA branch. So, I'm I'm
totally for this this ordinance tonight.
[2:37:48]
Thank you. Anything additional for Mr.
Hart makes his motion and Mr. hard if
[2:37:53]
you would consider in your motion to
change the verbiage to where it says all
[2:37:59]
residential housing or residential not
single family multif family but all
[2:38:04]
residential that's numbered
>> yeah sure it's it's in gentleman
[2:38:07]
mentioned it uh earlier in his comments
it's subsection B one and then A through
[2:38:12]
D where it addresses AR homes
>> uh and single family homes that language
[2:38:17]
does need to be in my opinion cleaned up
a little bit um I would defer to
[2:38:21]
planning staff as to the best language
for that.
[2:38:25]
» Typically, u I don't think it's a change
that's of such substance that would
[2:38:29]
prevent the board from being able to
move forward tonight if it chooses to do
[2:38:32]
so.
>> But I do think that if there's a motion
[2:38:35]
to approve that it include that uh
language uh to be addressed by planning
[2:38:40]
just for clarity sake. Mayor, may I
mention one other thing?
[2:38:43]
» Uh if the board were to approve the
ordinance tonight, uh the ordinance
[2:38:47]
changes tonight. My recommendation is
that the board make those effective
[2:38:50]
immediately um for public safety. You
have typically under state law
[2:38:56]
ordinances are effective one month from
passage. Uh but given uh the that what
[2:39:02]
could occur with a potential application
during the course of the ensuing month,
[2:39:07]
my recommendation is that the board take
advantage of a state law provision that
[2:39:10]
allows the board to say that ordinances
are effective immediately if that's
[2:39:14]
necessary to preserve public safety. And
I think that would be wise move for the
[2:39:18]
board tonight if the board's inclined to
approve the amendments.
[2:39:21]
» Okay. Thank you,
>> Mr. Mayor. Accordingly, then I I think
[2:39:25]
that's wise council. I appreciate I will
add those two things that uh on page
[2:39:30]
seven of 29 that language in
subparagraphs A, B, and C be changed to
[2:39:35]
reflect any
residents housing a family. Is that
[2:39:40]
fair?
>> Yes.
[2:39:41]
» Okay. Any residents housing a family.
>> That's right. for planning staff to to
[2:39:45]
direct
>> to revise that language appropriately.
[2:39:47]
» That's right.
>> Clean up a couple of the other
[2:39:49]
» and then also I do think it is important
because nobody knows what may come in
[2:39:53]
the next day or two that we do make this
effective tonight immediately.
[2:39:58]
» Thank you,
>> Miss Hamilton.
[2:40:00]
» Second.
>> Got a motion, Mr. Hart. Second, Miss
[2:40:04]
Hamilton. Any more discussion?
All in favor?
[2:40:09]
» All opposed?
Eyes have it. Thank you very much,
[2:40:13]
planning staff, planning commission. I
know this has been at least four months
[2:40:17]
of work and uh if it needs fine-tuning
later, so be it. But at this point, I
[2:40:21]
feel like this is probably one of the
best ordinances in the state and thank
[2:40:25]
you for the time and energy spent
putting it together.
[2:40:28]
Next item,
[2:40:32]
consideration of application for a
preliminary plat for Almondale Retreat
[2:40:37]
subdivision submitted by Greg Smith of
Civil Link on behalf of property owners
[2:40:42]
Dne Stovall, James Allen Stoval,
revocable trust, revocable living trust.
[2:40:47]
The request is to create 86 single
family residential lots and three common
[2:40:51]
open spaces from 50.87
plus or minus acres. The subject
[2:40:56]
property is located on the south side of
the soda road at the Marshall County
[2:40:59]
line approximately 0.86 plus or minus
miles east of Center Hill Road. This is
[2:41:04]
in reference to the uh motion and and
vote already taken earlier on this land
[2:41:09]
but staff report please.
>> Thank you mayor. The request before you
[2:41:14]
consider a preliminary plat preliminary
not a final preliminary plat for the
[2:41:19]
development of this 50.87 87 acres piece
of property which you approved the
[2:41:23]
reszoning as a very first item tonight
from AR to R1. Um the property
[2:41:31]
is served by the number of utilities.
There's a gas line along the Sodto road.
[2:41:35]
Actually a water line has just been
added following the utilities expansion
[2:41:40]
that the city is doing in that area. Um
other infrastructure elements are
[2:41:45]
currently under consideration with
regard [snorts] to things like seaw
[2:41:48]
water and gas. The applicant, this is
the preliminary plot. The applicant
[2:41:52]
proposes to develop this in three
phases. So phase one is this area in
[2:41:59]
green that would begin from the soda
road. So construction will begin from
[2:42:03]
the soda road. It will have 30 lots in
phase one. You have a common open space
[2:42:08]
recreation area here that will have the
lake or large stormwater detention area
[2:42:15]
with a walking trail around it and a
gazebo. And phase two will connect that
[2:42:21]
subdivision to the center here retreat
to the south and then that will have 32
[2:42:26]
lots and phase three is this area here
in purple which will have 24 lots. So
[2:42:33]
this is proposed to be developed in
three phases as shown. The planning
[2:42:37]
commission reviewed this application at
its meeting on July 14, determined that
[2:42:42]
the plaid meets all subdivision and
zoning requirements uh with the property
[2:42:48]
have being reszoned to R1 and made that
approval subject to a number of
[2:42:53]
conditions 1 through 13. Condition
number four emphasiding emphasizing that
[2:42:58]
sidewalk improvements are required on
all the streets in the subdivision. So
[2:43:03]
they have to construct sidewalks on all
the streets. Condition number six for
[2:43:07]
final plat approval. The applicant will
submit declaration of covenants and
[2:43:12]
restrictions which will impose a number
of conditions. One, the declaration
[2:43:17]
language should include the intent to
impose a 2,000 heated square foot
[2:43:23]
minimum house size and secondly minimum
75% brick content on all sides of
[2:43:30]
buildings and address the garage
orientation that needs to be addressed
[2:43:35]
at a final plat and presented to the
board of adan at final plat approval. Uh
[2:43:41]
with regard to the other conditions, I
want to call attention to condition
[2:43:44]
number 13. That piece of property
basically has been clear, you know,
[2:43:49]
there are no trees standing out there.
Condition number 13 will require that
[2:43:52]
the developer or the home builder will
plant 2 in to 2 and 1/2 in caliber trees
[2:43:58]
in front of each lot. That concludes
staff's presentation. Thank you.
[2:44:04]
» Thank you board. Any questions on the
staff report?
[2:44:10]
Does applicant have anything else to
add?
[2:44:17]
» Question about the application. Greg
Smith.
[2:44:26]
» I guess it's going to be twotory houses.
What is it? You got to address the
[2:44:32]
garage orientation.
>> That's basically to ensure that there's
[2:44:37]
no front-facing garages. Uh if you look
on this on the plat that you have in
[2:44:42]
front of you, uh it says that all roads
garages ought to be the side loaded.
[2:44:47]
» Okay.
>> So that's
[2:44:49]
» hoping you'd say [laughter]
>> 2,000 square feet minimum on the
[2:44:55]
footprint. Correct.
>> Yes, sir.
[2:44:57]
» Correct.
>> Great.
[2:45:01]
Yep. Anything else?
[2:45:10]
» I'll make a motion we approve it.
>> Motion, Mr. Collins, to approve as is.
[2:45:14]
Is there a second?
>> Second.
[2:45:16]
» Second, Mr. Gamage. All in favor?
>> All oppose? Motion carries. Thank you.
[2:45:21]
» Thank you.
[2:45:25]
Next item, consideration of application
for second revision of bridges at of
[2:45:30]
Camp Creek phase 2 lot 12 submitted by
Sha Ski Ski Engineering on behalf of
[2:45:35]
property owner Deepac Patel. The request
is to divide the existing 2.93 plus and
[2:45:41]
minus acre lot 12 into two lots. The
subject property is zone C4, planned
[2:45:46]
commercial district, and is located at
the east end of McGregor crossing,
[2:45:51]
approximately 750 ft east of the
intersection of McGregor Crossing and
[2:45:55]
East Bridges Drive. Report, please.
[2:46:04]
Thank you. Yes, the applicant is
requesting to divide the
[2:46:09]
uh divide one platted C4 lot into two
separate lots for commercial development
[2:46:13]
at the eastern end of McGregor crossing
a private commercial road between
[2:46:18]
Highway 302 and Camp Creek. No zoning
amendment is required as this proposal
[2:46:22]
to subdivide is keeping within the
general scope of the project text and
[2:46:26]
preliminary development plan for the
existing subdivision.
[2:46:30]
And so we have the utilities and
transportation aspect shown here. Lot 12
[2:46:36]
has access to water and gas from the
northern edge of lot 11. Sewer is
[2:46:41]
available to lot 12 as well. McGregor
crossing is a private road that
[2:46:45]
currently connects to lot 12.
And so here's the detail of the proposed
[2:46:52]
plat. It's just a close-up screenshot of
the plat showing the lot to be
[2:46:57]
subdivided. The proposed plat needs to
show a continuation of the 5-ft sidewalk
[2:47:03]
drawn across the proposed lot 12A to
connect to lot 12B. A gas easement needs
[2:47:08]
to be shown moving across the proposed
lots. And uh the proposed lot the
[2:47:14]
proposed plat satisfies all other
requirements in the subdivision design
[2:47:18]
standards.
And so for the planning commission
[2:47:22]
recommendation um the planning
commission unanimously recommended
[2:47:27]
approval of the request for the final
plat um however after the uh planning
[2:47:32]
commission meeting planning staff um
relooked at the entire proposal and um
[2:47:39]
we are making a note to u we're
suggesting to have number six and number
[2:47:45]
seven replace number one and number two.
They're uh very similar. But number six,
[2:47:51]
um the addition is we uh as I just
stated in that previous slide, um please
[2:47:57]
provide a 5-ft sidewalk along the
entirety of the um McGregor crossing
[2:48:04]
traversing that first proposed lot to
connect to that next proposed lot and
[2:48:09]
then add a note to the plat stating each
lot will provide a 5- foot wide utility
[2:48:13]
easement along each lot line. That
concludes presentation.
[2:48:18]
» Thank you, Mr. Hacken Smith. Board, any
questions?
[2:48:22]
» Does this mean we're not going to get
our anticipated Marriott Garden in
[2:48:26]
hotel?
>> Um, if I may speak on it. Um,
[2:48:32]
would that be okay?
>> I think we'd probably defer that till
[2:48:37]
that actually comes up as an item.
>> Maybe Mr. Earhart could
[2:48:43]
» question.
>> Y'all could speak. Y'all could speak
[2:48:45]
offline. Question withdrawn.
>> I just don't want to put any business or
[2:48:50]
any company in an awkward position.
Any other questions?
[2:49:05]
Do we have the applicant here? Thank
Mr. Patel.
[2:49:13]
» Yes, sir. And you may answer Mr. Hart's
question if you wish to, but uh
[2:49:18]
any questions of the applicant?
>> Do you mind sharing this with sharing
[2:49:23]
with us your intended usage of the two
lots?
[2:49:26]
» Yes, sir. It's two hotels. We have one
Hilton uh and then one Element Weston.
[2:49:31]
It's technically Weston Marriott.
Marriott purchased Weston.
[2:49:34]
» Okay. Now, it's a proposed Hilton.
>> Yes, sir.
[2:49:37]
» And and the other one
>> Oh, Marriott.
[2:49:39]
» Marriott.
>> Marriott is
[2:49:41]
» Marriott and Hilton. Okay.
>> Yes, sir. So now we get two for one.
[2:49:44]
Correct.
>> Yes, sir. The secondary second property
[2:49:47]
is uh it's actually be the first of his
kind in Mississippi. So it's uh we're
[2:49:51]
really excited about the second one. But
first one we need to get the first one
[2:49:54]
get started first and then we'll get the
second one. But yes, sir.
[2:49:58]
» Well, if he was that bold, then I'm
going to ask is we're still getting our
[2:50:01]
white tablecloth restaurants. [laughter]
>> Uh the second one has a chef on site.
[2:50:06]
Let's just say that. Um it's boutique,
too. So it's pretty
[2:50:11]
» great. Very good. Thank you for the good
news.
[2:50:13]
» Yes, sir.
>> I
[2:50:16]
» questions.
>> I do have a question if this is the time
[2:50:20]
to ask.
>> We just I want to know if you needed to
[2:50:22]
add anything else that wasn't covered by
the staff report.
[2:50:24]
» Oh, no, sir.
>> If there's no questions from the board,
[2:50:27]
then um Thank you. You may be seated.
>> All right. Thank you.
[2:50:34]
» Any questions or motions?
>> That's easy. I'll make a motion to
[2:50:38]
approve.
>> Motion to approve by Mr. Dear Hart, is
[2:50:41]
there a second?
>> Second.
[2:50:43]
» Second, Mr. Collins. All in favor?
>> All oppose? Motion carries.
[2:50:50]
» Next item, consideration
[clears throat]
[2:50:53]
of application for first revision of lot
three of the second revision of the GD
[2:50:58]
Deckman subdivision submitted by Sha
Ski, Ski Engineering on behalf of Peggy
[2:51:04]
Poff and Lisa Marie Riceinger, property
owners. The request is to divide the
[2:51:09]
existing 5.45 plus or minus acre lot
three into two lots. The subject
[2:51:14]
property is zone AR agricultural
residential district and is located on
[2:51:18]
the northwest corner of College Road and
Maroy Farms Drive. Report, please.
[2:51:26]
Thank you. Yes. The property proposed to
be subdivided is one AR lot as shown in
[2:51:32]
the yellow dotted line on the north side
of College Road between Highway 305 and
[2:51:37]
Alexander Road.
And so um here's a screenshot um of the
[2:51:44]
proposed subdivision. Um the lot which
is being proposed for subdivision is
[2:51:49]
listed as lot three and final plat of
first revision GD Deckman subdivision.
[2:51:55]
The proposed subdivision will not change
the existing perimeter of the existing
[2:51:59]
lot 3. The proposal will only split the
property into a 2acre lot 3A and a 3.45
[2:52:05]
acre lot 3B. A 50- foot wide ingress
egress easement will be provided to
[2:52:10]
allow public road access to and from lot
3A and lot one. The proposed plat
[2:52:16]
satisfies all other requirements in the
subdivi subdivision design standards and
[2:52:22]
um the planning commission unanimously
recommended approval and that concludes
[2:52:26]
the presentation.
>> Thank you Mr. Hacken Smith. Any
[2:52:30]
questions board or motions?
Unless the applicant has something to
[2:52:37]
add.
[2:52:42]
» I make a motion. Make a motion to wake
him up. I'll make a motion to pass.
[2:52:47]
Motion to pass by Mr. Collins. Is there
a second?
[2:52:50]
» Second.
>> Second, Miss Hamilton. All in favor?
[2:52:54]
» All opposed? Motion carries. Next item.
Consideration of application for a final
[2:53:01]
plat of Shirley Homes subdivision
submitted by Greg Russell
[2:53:05]
Civil Source LLC on behalf of property
owner Scott Lawhorn. The request is to
[2:53:11]
create four commercial and industrial
lots totaling 10.96 plus or minus acres.
[2:53:17]
The subject property is on C2 highway
commercial district and M1 light
[2:53:21]
industrial district and is located on
the northwest corner of Frontage Road
[2:53:26]
and Exchange Drive known as 8263
Frontage Road. Report please.
[2:53:34]
» The parcel proposed to be subdivided is
currently unplatted. There are five
[2:53:39]
addresses currently used on the parcel.
The applicant is requesting to create
[2:53:45]
four lots while expanding a small
portion of the s southern boundary of
[2:53:50]
the parcel in order to contain an
existing parking area. And if I get the
[2:53:55]
pointer right, it's
right there.
[2:53:59]
Um, so water, gas, and sewer access are
available to the current parcel. Uh,
[2:54:07]
Exchange Drive is a private roadway and
will serve as access for 8279A
[2:54:14]
and 8279B.
And so here I have a screenshot um
[2:54:21]
zoomed into the proposed lot to be um
subdivided. So the proposed plat shows a
[2:54:27]
31 foot wide ingress egress easement
across Exchange Drive to allow access to
[2:54:34]
lot three since lot four is drawn to
connect to frontage road. And so looking
[2:54:39]
at all of the other subdivision
requirements, the proposed plat
[2:54:43]
satisfies all reviewed requirements in
the subdivision design standards.
[2:54:49]
And so with this one, the planning
commission also unanimously recommended
[2:54:53]
approval. And that concludes the
presentation.
[2:54:57]
» Thank you board. Any questions,
[2:55:04]
» comments or motions?
[2:55:10]
» Motion to approve by Mr. Wallace. Is
there a second?
[2:55:14]
» Second by Mr. Dickerson. All in favor?
>> All oppose? Motion carries.
[2:55:19]
Next item.
>> Oh, Mr. Russell.
[2:55:24]
May I ask something on the last uh item,
please?
[2:55:28]
The the reason that we're doing this
plot is because Frell has come in and uh
[2:55:34]
uh taken over the Let me make sure Let
me make sure I understand. Are you
[2:55:39]
asking about the one prior to this?
>> The one y'all just voted on?
[2:55:44]
» Homes. The homes plat
>> the homes.
[2:55:47]
» Yes. Okay.
>> So,
[2:55:50]
» you voted on it before I before I could
ask you. So,
[2:55:53]
It may be inappropriate for me to ask.
>> Well, I did call on you, but we didn't
[2:55:58]
quite make a contact with each other.
>> My hear my herinades are in the shop, so
[2:56:02]
I can't hear anything.
>> All right, I'm going to have to ask the
[2:56:05]
legal advice on this one. What What
particular do you want that they have?
[2:56:08]
They approved it, but you want something
else now or
[2:56:11]
» maybe. All right, tell us what it is and
I'll let the attorney advise whether or
[2:56:16]
not we can go down that path without
having to recall take a second.
[2:56:21]
» Um, Fereral Grass is moving into the two
buildings on the north side. Uh, and
[2:56:27]
they're using that for their uh
residential home fuel tanks.
[2:56:32]
» Okay. Um and and what created the need
for this plat is the fact that they want
[2:56:40]
they Feral Gas wants to build a dock out
in the back of the yard, a concrete dock
[2:56:46]
that's raised 4 feet and has uh what I
call a metal carport over the top of it.
[2:56:54]
And that's for their uh employees safety
and and keep them out of the weather and
[2:56:59]
so forth while they fill these trucks.
Um, Frell is actually anxious to get
[2:57:06]
started on this even though we're just a
little bit of ways from recording it.
[2:57:12]
Um, I was going to ask that they be
allowed to go ahead and start
[2:57:15]
construction before the plat's recorded.
>> That is really a process question that
[2:57:21]
ever since Dr. Song has been in position
has been coming up. So, I don't want to
[2:57:26]
overrule his consistency. I mean, that's
really administrative. It's not
[2:57:31]
something the board would approve, but I
would say won't we take that up with Dr.
[2:57:35]
Song and see I don't want to upsurp his
authority when he has gone down the path
[2:57:41]
of they got to be recorded before the
starts and I know not all cities operate
[2:57:45]
the same. I understand that but that's
the way you're operating now if I'm
[2:57:50]
understanding right. Am I missing the
point? Is that
[2:57:53]
» Yeah, you're correct, mayor. And I think
I had responded to his email on this
[2:57:58]
particular request. So that's something
that we can discuss and handle
[2:58:01]
administratively. It does not really
affect the plot.
[2:58:04]
» It wouldn't be a board decision. It' be
an operational item, procedural item. So
[2:58:10]
the board wouldn't make that decision.
You and Dr. You and Dr. Song would try
[2:58:15]
to work that out.
>> Okay.
[2:58:16]
» Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
[2:58:18]
» Huh.
[2:58:22]
Number five, consideration of
application for the third revision of
[2:58:26]
Ross Road Plaza subdivision submitted by
Sha Skine Ski Engineering on behalf of
[2:58:32]
property owner Marvin Bolan. The request
is to divide the existing 4.80 80 plus
[2:58:37]
or minus acre lot one into three lots
subject property zone C2 Commercial
[2:58:42]
Highway District and is located at the
southeast corner of Ross Road in West
[2:58:46]
Sandage Road known as 5950 Ross Road.
Staff report please. Mr. Hawkins Smith.
[2:58:54]
» The parcel being proposed for
subdivision is outlined in yellow and
[2:58:59]
has frontage on West Sandage Road and
Ross Road. This lot is currently platted
[2:59:04]
as lot one in the one lot second
revision Ross Road Plaza subdivision and
[2:59:10]
as you can see there are multiple
addresses on that singular lot. Um the
[2:59:14]
current parcel has access to water,
sewer and gas. The current parcel has
[2:59:19]
five addresses assigned to different
structures on site with three different
[2:59:24]
um sorry with three driveways accessing
Ross Road and two driveways accessing
[2:59:30]
West Standage Road.
And so here I have the detail of the
[2:59:35]
proposed plat. The proposed plat shows
the single lot being split into a plus
[2:59:40]
or minus.87
acre lot one and a plus or minus 1.39
[2:59:45]
acre lot 2 and a plus or minus 2.53 acre
lot 3. The required utility easements
[2:59:51]
are drawn. The front building setback
lines are drawn with all existing
[2:59:56]
buildings shown to exist behind the
50oot setback. Each new lot will have
[3:00:00]
direct access to a public road with one
with lot one adjoining West Sandage Road
[3:00:06]
and lots two and three adjoining Ross
Road. This proposed plat meets all
[3:00:11]
requirements listed in the subdivision
design standards.
[3:00:16]
And so uh planning commission um also
unanimously recommended approval of this
[3:00:22]
proposal. And that concludes the
presentation.
[3:00:27]
» Thank you Andrew. Any questions board or
any comments?
[3:00:31]
» This is u new to me when you take a
contiguous piece of property with
[3:00:36]
several buildings on it subdivide and
this is more of a question for Mr. D I
[3:00:41]
guess in planning if if this were to
pass and the owner wants to demolish a
[3:00:47]
building and build something else it
does not preclude them from meeting the
[3:00:51]
permitted use by rights and those
things. Correct.
[3:00:54]
» That that's correct. I mean, the
permitted uses are set by the ordinance
[3:00:57]
that if they demolish existing
structures and build something that's a
[3:01:00]
permitted use within the zone, then
that's allowed.
[3:01:03]
» Okay.
>> I've just never seen people divide their
[3:01:07]
property like this that's already
existing.
[3:01:09]
» But the prior application was was
similar. It had existing structures on
[3:01:13]
it and was previously unplatted and they
were
[3:01:16]
» um adding interior lot lines to
separate. Sometimes you see that if
[3:01:20]
somebody's just wanting to convey a
portion of a of a parcel that's
[3:01:23]
unplatted, they can plat it and that way
they can sell lot one rather than
[3:01:27]
selling a meets and bounds description,
something of that nature.
[3:01:31]
» Okay. Just
>> so there it's basically like several
[3:01:33]
businesses on the corner of Ross and
Sandage right behind the old TJ's Market
[3:01:39]
and uh they just kept putting build
businesses on the man's land and he rent
[3:01:44]
him a spot basically and
I think comes to the point that they
[3:01:49]
just want to split them up.
>> Okay.
[3:01:52]
» But typically we don't include building
footprints on the plat anyway. The plat
[3:01:57]
just is setting forth the dimensions of
the lot, not the structures that may be
[3:02:00]
on it.
>> It it doesn't address setbacks or
[3:02:05]
anything.
>> No, the the plat should address setbacks
[3:02:07]
and they should be shown plus the zoning
ordinance. Uh so you have a 50-foot
[3:02:12]
building setback shown on the Ross Road
frontage.
[3:02:15]
» Okay.
uh 50 foot building setback shown on the
[3:02:18]
west sandage frontage. So
>> look like they're all real close
[3:02:20]
together
>> right
[3:02:22]
» now. You would have some pre-existing
structures, not I'm not commenting on
[3:02:26]
this one, but hypothetically you could
have a plat that gets recorded and you
[3:02:30]
could have some old structures that
would be legal non-conforming uses
[3:02:35]
because they pre-existed. They might
have been in the
[3:02:37]
» I understand that, but I didn't know
what he redrawing them knew where they
[3:02:42]
would have to
conform or not conform.
[3:02:47]
» Typically, they would
>> I guess we don't let them.
[3:02:50]
» Well, typically we would allow the
grandfather that in.
[3:02:53]
» Okay.
>> Particularly if you had a house for
[3:02:55]
example, there probably some setback
issues here in Oldtown for example or
[3:03:00]
Maywood for example where you could have
setback issues.
[3:03:03]
» I understand that
didn't know about redrawing it.
[3:03:08]
» Okay.
>> Thank you.
[3:03:09]
» Any other questions or motion?
>> Make a motion to approve. Wallace.
[3:03:14]
Motion to approve.
>> Second
[3:03:18]
to second. Collins. All in favor?
>> I.
[3:03:21]
» All opposed. Motion carries. Next item.
Consideration of application for the
[3:03:27]
final plat for Redeemer Baptist Church.
Submitted by Rusty Norville Civil
[3:03:32]
Engineering Solutions LLC on behalf of
property owner Redeemer Baptist Church.
[3:03:37]
The request is to create a single lot of
2.35 plus or minus acres. The subject
[3:03:43]
property is zoned R2 single family
residential district and is located on
[3:03:47]
the south side of Katherine Drive
approximately 300 ft southwest of the
[3:03:51]
intersection of Katherine Drive and
Highway 178 known as 50/50 Katherine
[3:03:56]
Drive. Report please.
>> Thank you. Mayor Adam before you is a
[3:04:01]
request to consider platting this. So an
existing parasel that's Baptist church
[3:04:06]
on that piece of property and all
they're requesting to do is essentially
[3:04:11]
just to plot it as one lot. It has
buildings on it. Water lines, seaw wall
[3:04:16]
lines, gas line, gas lines are available
to the property and I think the church
[3:04:22]
has the intent in future to do some
expansion on that particular site and to
[3:04:27]
be able to do that they need to obtain a
building permit. To obtain a building
[3:04:30]
permit, you have to plat the the
property based on city regulations. This
[3:04:35]
is the plat as proposed. There are no
sidewalks along Katherine Drive and as
[3:04:39]
said the applicant is requesting a
waiver of sidewalk requirements. The
[3:04:43]
planning commission review this
application at its August 11 meeting
[3:04:47]
unanimously recommended approval subject
to these conditions 1 to five. Condition
[3:04:52]
number four being that the requirement
for the property owner to construct
[3:04:55]
sidewalks along the Katherine Drive
street frontage of the proposed lot is
[3:04:59]
waved. That concludes staff's
presentation. Thank you.
[3:05:03]
» Thank you, Dr. Song. Any questions
forward?
[3:05:07]
» Is this the old Fair Baptist Church?
>> Yes. Yes, ma'am.
[3:05:12]
» And the applicant is here. Mr.
Norville's here. Come forward, please.
[3:05:20]
I know you hate that we didn't put this
before the data center, but I'm sure you
[3:05:24]
wanted to hang out with us for a while,
didn't you?
[3:05:26]
» Part of the game. Rusty Norville Civil
Engineering Solutions 317 West Market in
[3:05:31]
Dyresburg, Tennessee.
>> And the question was, is it the previous
[3:05:35]
church of
>> Old Fair Haven Baptist? All I know
[3:05:39]
that's
>> as Redeemer Baptist. I mean, that's all
[3:05:41]
I know it is
>> on Katherine Drive. So
[3:05:46]
» I guess it changes a lot though,
>> right? I think it used to
[3:05:53]
» maybe. So I don't know that it's um it's
it's never been platted before.
[3:05:58]
» It's never been Okay.
>> It's never been platted. So
[3:06:01]
» Okay.
>> Well, I'll let Mr. Nor speak to what
[3:06:05]
their plans may be, but
>> Do you know the plans? I don't.
[3:06:09]
» They just want it all platted as one.
>> Yeah. just they need it planned and in
[3:06:13]
case they want to move forward with some
building additions or revisions.
[3:06:17]
» Okay.
[3:06:20]
» No more, no less. It's already there.
>> Yep.
[3:06:23]
» Okay.
>> Is there a motion on this one or
[3:06:27]
question?
>> Motion to approve.
[3:06:30]
» Dickerson. Motion to approve. Second,
please. Is there a second? Rather,
[3:06:34]
» Miss Hamilton second. All in favor?
>> All opposed? Motion carries. Dismissed.
[3:06:39]
Thank you.
Item seven, consideration of application
[3:06:43]
for final plant for DInnesota County
Schools Career Technical Center East
[3:06:47]
Subdivision submitted by Jay Kaufman,
Allen, and Hostel Incorporated on behalf
[3:06:52]
of property owner of DInnesota County
Schools. The request is to create a
[3:06:55]
single lot of 42.50 plus or minus acres
to be used for the career technical
[3:07:01]
center. Subject property is zoned AR
agriculture residential and is located
[3:07:06]
on the east side of Craft Road in the
southeast corner of the future expansion
[3:07:11]
of West Sandage Road and Craft Road. Dr.
Song,
[3:07:15]
» Mayor Adam, before you is a request to
consider a single lot subdivision for
[3:07:21]
the Duro County Schools Kari Tech
Center. This will be lot one 42.5 acres
[3:07:28]
as you did mention. couple of I think
just two months ago, one or two months
[3:07:32]
ago, you approved the reszoning of this
property to a Arizona arming district
[3:07:37]
from PUB to a Arizona district to allow
for this career center to move forward.
[3:07:42]
Gas lines are available in the area.
Water lines would need to be provided to
[3:07:47]
the property in order for it to move
forward. This is the plan as proposed.
[3:07:51]
It meets the zoning regulations for the
AR zoning district. It meets subdivision
[3:07:56]
regulations.
The planning commission did review this
[3:08:00]
application at its August 11 meeting. It
approved it subject to a number of
[3:08:05]
conditions one to five. There is a
change that I wish to make on condition
[3:08:10]
number one. Please. Condition number one
as recommended by the planning
[3:08:14]
commission stipulated that except for
the extension of public water to the
[3:08:17]
property which shall be the
responsibility of the city of Olive
[3:08:20]
Branch all other improvements shall be
the responsibility of the developer. We
[3:08:24]
propose to change that or to revise that
condition to rather read all
[3:08:30]
improvements shall be the responsibility
of the developer except to the extent
[3:08:35]
that the city of Olive Branch satisfies
its commitment up to uh $500,000 for
[3:08:42]
infrastructure improvements. I think
that is the nature of the commitment
[3:08:46]
that the city has made to this
particular development as opposed to
[3:08:49]
tying it down to just water.
And then lastly,
[3:08:54]
uh,
with the fate of the do innovation
[3:08:59]
district kind of hanging in the air, the
board pushed table application to
[3:09:03]
September 1st that may affect how
sidewalks or the trail system is
[3:09:09]
constructed in front in the street
frontage of this particular piece of
[3:09:13]
property. This condition number four
basically says if the Dudo Innovation
[3:09:18]
District project were approved then the
trail network would not come right up to
[3:09:23]
the frontage of this property because it
will basically cross craft in what will
[3:09:27]
be the new nail uh road before this
particular lot and so the trail will not
[3:09:34]
need to be constructed. If the Dutto
Innovation District were not approved,
[3:09:38]
then the applicant would basically need
to extend that trail up in front of this
[3:09:43]
property and that will basically be like
the trail head. The parking lot will
[3:09:46]
kind of save as a trail head to to close
the loop as far as that particular tray
[3:09:51]
system is concerned. That's what
condition number 462 address. That
[3:09:56]
concludes staff's presentation. Thank
you.
[3:09:59]
» Thank you. Is anyone here on behalf of
the application anything to add, sir?
[3:10:09]
No, nothing more to add. Thank you.
>> Okay. Any any questions, board of the
[3:10:13]
applicant? I know we're glad to see it
get started.
[3:10:16]
» Absolutely.
>> No questions. Thank you.
[3:10:20]
» Thank you.
[3:10:24]
» Mr. Wallace, motion to approve as
presented. Is there a second?
[3:10:28]
» Second, Miss Alder. All in favor?
>> All oppose? Motion carries. staff has
[3:10:33]
asked that board uh continue weedy lots
to the first meeting in September. Um
[3:10:39]
what the date is?
>> September 1st.
[3:10:42]
» Oh, September one. If there's a motion
to continue it to motion second to
[3:10:47]
continue to September the 1st. There's
some things staff needs to work out with
[3:10:51]
these lots and they've just asked to
continue it.
[3:10:55]
» Motion to Wallace. Motion to September
one. Is there a second?
[3:11:00]
» Second.
>> Second, Mr. Hart. All in favor? I.
[3:11:03]
» All oppose. Motion carries.
Consideration of bids received August
[3:11:09]
the 10th, 2026 for the public works
supplies for FY27.
[3:11:15]
» Request the table September.
>> Okay.
[3:11:18]
» Request to table this one to September
one as well. If the motion is second to
[3:11:23]
do that.
>> So move.
[3:11:26]
» Gamage Wallace. All in favor? I.
>> All opposed. Motion carries.
[3:11:32]
public hearing date for the budget
hearing to provide the general public
[3:11:35]
with an opportunity to comment on the
taxing and spending plan incorporated in
[3:11:40]
the proposed budget for the city of
Olive Branch for fiscal year beginning
[3:11:43]
October the 1st, 2026 and ended
September the 30th, 2027. This public
[3:11:49]
hearing date was set for August the 4th.
Any public comments regarding the city's
[3:11:57]
budget and proposed notice? I guess it
was not proposed but noticed in the
[3:12:02]
paper.
[3:12:06]
Okay, we don't need to give a high level
overview. This just for comments only,
[3:12:10]
right? Okay,
>> if you wanted to. It's mainly the
[3:12:13]
public's opportunity.
>> If the public's has any concerns about
[3:12:17]
the city's budget,
I'm open for your comments or questions
[3:12:22]
or input. It's
49 million. I don't I know you don't
[3:12:29]
want me to go line by outline, but it's
149 million for next year.
[3:12:38]
Okay. Over 52% for public safety and the
expense side uh for police, fire, and
[3:12:43]
EMS and just a lot of other various
costs. But uh if there's no public
[3:12:49]
comments, I won't belittle it and keep
you here all night talking about that
[3:12:54]
budget. I know Jason, Mr. May is ready
to get it passed. He's only been working
[3:12:58]
on it two months. Our CFO.
Okay.
[3:13:04]
And public comments is hereby public
comment section is hereby closed.
[3:13:11]
» Nothing required. I want to make sure
we're not missing somebody. You know,
[3:13:16]
crumper crumpers were here for the
award, I think. But are we missing
[3:13:19]
anybody else that needed to speak with
the board tonight? I just want to make
[3:13:23]
sure that our guests that have been here
all night. Have I missed anybody?
[3:13:26]
Anything that we need to talk about?
Okay.
[3:13:32]
Okay. If there's anything I'm missing,
let me know. If not, we're getting ready
[3:13:35]
to go in executive session and then
we'll go in private session after that.
[3:13:39]
» We got new business.
>> Oh, we got another business.
[3:13:41]
» All right. I'm ready to go. Let's do the
new business. [laughter]
[3:13:46]
» You got six.
>> Okay. I got you. Very good. I got you.
[3:13:50]
Very good. They're for new business. My
bad. Let's let's go to the uh new
[3:13:54]
business consideration recommendation to
approve change order CO226
[3:13:59]
on a contract with Leman Roberts Company
in the additive amount of 108,894
[3:14:05]
increasing the contract from 2,14868250
to2,257,576.50
[3:14:13]
50 cents for the project referred to as
the term bid contract for the annual
[3:14:18]
full depth reclamation and asphalt
overlay. Mr. Swims.
[3:14:23]
» Yes, sir. We had um some cost savings on
the state line portion of the overlay
[3:14:27]
projects that we've been doing this year
uh in excess of $300,000. And so we've
[3:14:33]
got term bids with this first um new
business. Item number one um is for the
[3:14:38]
asphalt portion that we're trying to
take and utilize some of that money for
[3:14:42]
some of the oldtown area. Um and so this
one particular um change order here for
[3:14:48]
um 108,894
will basically take care of the asphalt
[3:14:53]
overlay for Kerr Road in the Oldtown
area. So we are recommending we move
[3:14:57]
forward with that.
[3:15:02]
» Questions or comments or motions? Make a
motion to approve.
[3:15:07]
» Ear heart motion. Is there a second?
>> Second.
[3:15:11]
» Second. Collins. All in favor?
>> All opposed? Eyes have it. Consider item
[3:15:15]
two. Consideration of recommendation to
approve change order number CO326
[3:15:21]
on contract with Leman Roberts Company
in the additive amount of $76,500.
[3:15:27]
increasing the contract from 1,7557,442
[3:15:32]
to1,833,942
[3:15:36]
for the project referred to as the term
bid contract for annual surface
[3:15:41]
treatment.
So this [clears throat] one is basically
[3:15:44]
part of this part B of the of the
overlay. So this is the patching part.
[3:15:49]
So the the four roads that we're looking
at that are going to be affected by the
[3:15:53]
patching is going to be um Kerr Kerr
Street I guess um depot and Pigeon Roost
[3:16:00]
and then Parkwood. So those will all
have patching that'll be associated with
[3:16:04]
this. So we are asking that we approve
this to uh and the term contract term
[3:16:08]
contract with layman Roberts.
[3:16:13]
» Questions or motions?
>> Motion to approve.
[3:16:16]
» Hamilton motion. Wallace second. All in
favor? I.
[3:16:18]
» All oppose. Eyes have it. Consideration
of recommendation to approve change
[3:16:22]
order number one on the contract with
Vance Brothers Incorporated in the
[3:16:26]
additive amount of $103,930
983.60
[3:16:32]
increasing the contract from $811,738.60
[3:16:38]
to95,722.20
[3:16:42]
for the project referred to as pavement
preservation. Mr. plans.
[3:16:46]
» This would be a second um contract. This
is Vance Brothers, not Lingland Roberts.
[3:16:51]
This is where we're doing our pavement
preservation. So on Parkwood, we're
[3:16:55]
actually going to be doing the patching
and then we'll be coming back with a
[3:16:57]
double micro on that road. So this is
just uh the cost associated with
[3:17:02]
increasing contract change order number
one for a contract with Vance Brothers.
[3:17:09]
» Any qu motion by Mr. Dixon to approve?
Is there a second?
[3:17:14]
» Second, Miss Alders. All in favor?
>> I.
[3:17:16]
» All oppose. Eyes have it. Consideration
of recommendation to approve
[3:17:20]
construction engineering and inspection
services contract with Civil Link
[3:17:24]
Incorporated in the amount of $228,47463
[3:17:30]
for the project referred to as a state
line at Davidson intersection
[3:17:33]
improvements.
>> Yes, sir. Y'all recall this is the um
[3:17:37]
installation of a signal and the improve
and actually the lane widening at
[3:17:41]
Davidson and Stateline Road. Uh we're
getting fairly close. This is going to
[3:17:44]
be the construction engineering and
inspection portion of the contract
[3:17:48]
that's required by MDOT for us to have
that in place before we move forward
[3:17:52]
with um um the next phase going into
construction. So, we have reviewed it
[3:17:57]
and we agree that uh uh this is a
reasonable amount. MD dots been in
[3:18:03]
agreement with it as well. So, we're
asking for approval tonight.
[3:18:07]
» Mr. Swims, one question on that. Did we
ask for or approve a traffic signal or
[3:18:13]
is it going to be four stop signs with
the flashing?
[3:18:16]
» It's going to be a traffic signal.
>> The actual signal. Okay.
[3:18:21]
» Thank you, sir. I'll make a motion to
approve.
[3:18:23]
» Motion by your heart. Is there a second?
>> Second.
[3:18:26]
» Second. Hamilton. All in favor?
>> All oppose? Motion carries. And now I
[3:18:30]
recognize why the other two guests are
here with us. So, I'm slowly connecting.
[3:18:35]
It's just been a long day. Consideration
of recommendation to accept Sigma Health
[3:18:39]
dental and vision insurance proposals
received for fiscal year 2627.
[3:18:47]
Mr. May, anything to add to that?
No sir, I would just say that
[3:18:55]
we've got quotes from Sigma basically
same provided now be no decrease in
[3:19:04]
benefits
were also solicited from Blue Cross Blue
[3:19:10]
Shield United.
[3:19:14]
We use those quotes to negotiate with
them.
[3:19:25]
» Thank you.
>> Motion to approve by Mr. Wallace. Is
[3:19:30]
there a second?
>> Second.
[3:19:33]
» Second. Mr. Earhart. All in favor?
>> All opposed? Eyes have it.
[3:19:37]
» And I just want to commend those two for
the work they did. That's a lot of
[3:19:41]
wrangling and wrestling and I know what
it takes. So, thank you for your efforts
[3:19:44]
there working with Jason, too.
>> You've had some You've had some
[3:19:49]
experience doing that, Mr. Hart. A
little bit experience.
[3:19:52]
» Understood. With Yes. Thank you very
much.
[3:19:56]
» That's not a one-day process, is it?
That does take a while. So, thank you.
[3:20:01]
Consideration of recommendation to
approve change order number two on the
[3:20:05]
contract with Phillips Contracting
Company Incorporated in additive amount
[3:20:09]
of $35,146
increasing the contract amount from
[3:20:14]
2,859,945
[3:20:17]
to $2,895,91
[3:20:21]
for the project referred to as apron
rehabilitation phase 2. Mr. swims.
[3:20:27]
» As y'all may recall, um, last month we
actually did a change order that was
[3:20:31]
affecting a different area. So, this is
some of the same type of work where they
[3:20:35]
did apron rehabilitation work and damage
some of the electrical affecting
[3:20:39]
different hangers. So, uh, moving to a
different area of the airport. We are
[3:20:42]
requesting that uh that uh y'all approve
this uh this change order for this um
[3:20:48]
electrical issue to be resolved.
>> Thank you.
[3:20:55]
Questions or motions?
>> Motion to approve.
[3:20:58]
» Mr. Gamage. Motion to approve. Is there
a second?
[3:21:03]
» Second, Mr. Dickerson. All in favor?
>> I.
[3:21:07]
» All oppose. Eyes have it. Is there a
motion to leave regular session with the
[3:21:11]
intention of going into executive
session?
[3:21:14]
» Mr. Wallace. Motion. Is there a second?
>> Second. Miss Aldidge. All in favor?
[3:21:20]
» I.
>> All oppose. We are out of regular
[3:21:22]
session. Is there a motion to go into
executive session to discuss executive
[3:21:26]
session items as listed 1 through 7?
>> So move.
[3:21:31]
» Motion for Mr. Earhart.
>> Second.
[3:21:33]
» Second, Mr. Wallace. All in favor?
>> All oppose. We are in executive session.