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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Welcome everyone yesterday
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was election day and you had the opportunity to go vote.
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It was kind of a low turnout...
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But the votes were tallied and people one,
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and some didn't succeed, but we want
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to thank all of those who won and those
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who ran for caring about our community
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enough to put their hat in the ring
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and to offer their services to a great community.
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I want to thank all of you for voting,
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for those of you who didn't get to vote,
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please set your calendar for the next election.
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I'm not a great example at a great many things,
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but I can tell you I voted in every election
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since I was aged 18.
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It's important.
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If you don't vote, somebody else's vote counts for double
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and if that person doesn't vote, whoever doesn't show up --
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does show up counts for triple.
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Cast your vote, it's a civic duty,
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and it helps to keep our nation great, so thank you very much.
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Can we call the roll please?
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[Roll call]
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I would like to ask you if you could please stand
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for the Pledge of Allegiance which will be followed
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by the National anthem .
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Today, leading us in the pledge and singing the National anthem
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is Jenna Chan, her grandparents have been Long Pembroke Pines
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residents .
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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[Singing] Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early What
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so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last Whose
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broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous
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O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly
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And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in Gave proof
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through the night that our flag was still Oh, say!
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does that star-spangled banner yet O'er the land of the free
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and the home of the On the shore, dimly seen
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through the mists of the Where the foe's haughty host in dread
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silence What is that which the breeze,
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o'er the towering As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half Now
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it catches the gleam of the morning's
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first In fully glory reflected now shines
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in the 'Tis the star-spangled banner!
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Oh, long may it O'er the land of the free and the home of the
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And where is that band who so vauntingly That the havoc of war
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and the battle's A home and a country
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should leave us no Their blood has washed
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out their foul footsteps' No refuge could save the hireling
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and From the terror of flight or the gloom of the
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And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth
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O'er the land of the free and the home of the Oh,
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thus be it ever, when freemen shall Between their loved home
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and the war's Blest with victory and peace,
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may the heav'n-rescued Praise the Power that hath made
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and preserved us a Then conquer we must,
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when our cause it is And this be our motto:
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"In God is our And the star-spangled banner in triumph
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shall O'er the land of the free and the home of the source:
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[Applause]
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Welcome to Commissioner good,
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please Mark Commissioner good as present.
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We've got some presentations to do today .
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Speaker: This is a proclamation of the city of Pembroke Pines
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Florida.
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[Applause]
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Whereas on August 15th 2026 marks
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the 80th anniversary of India independence commemorating eight
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decades of its enduring commitment to liberty,
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self-determination, democracy, and the rule of law and whereas
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the city of Pembroke Pines is proud to recognize and celebrate
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the rich cultural heritage, traditions and history
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in the Indian community and of all communities,
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whose members have made meaningful contributions
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to social, cultural, educational, medical,
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technological, and the economic vitality of our community.
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I, the mayor of the City of Pembroke Pines Florida declare
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August 15th India's Independence Day in the city of Pembroke
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Pines Joining in the commemoration of this 80th
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anniversary of India's independence, thank you.
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[Applause]
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Speaker: Thank you very much on behalf of Indian Americans,
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this is an honor for us because in this country
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I know there's a lot of opportunity,
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and we are happy we have been able to achieve that
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and I respect and honor that proclamation.
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Let me read what I wrote --
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I am an Indian American, I have been a long time resident
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of the city of Pembroke Pines since 1998 and I have been proud
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of living in the city of Pembroke Pines and it is
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my absolute honor and privilege to receive this proclamation
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celebrating August 15th as the 80th anniversary of India
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Independence Day.
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Even though it is a workday, some of my colleagues are here
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and we will take a photograph.
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We cannot thank you enough for your kind consideration
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of the community , planned erection of Gandhi's Statue,
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Diwali resolution, and Hindu Heritage Month which is
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the month of October.
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I want to thank you because Commissioner Good attended
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the 250th anniversary celebration at the Temple.
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The mayor was busy because of his grandson,
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It is noteworthy similarities between India
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and the United States are deep commitment to liberty, equality,
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democracy, fundamental rights, and the rule of law.
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We are happy that our customs here in the USA and India
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are similar.
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We are proud both as Indian heritage
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and as American citizens.
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This partnership between the world's two largest democracies,
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we are 1.4 billion people which is
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almost four times the population of the United States
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and one third of the area, so we are Very densely populated.
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Though India has never been an aggressor,
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but it has fought wars with its hostile neighbor.
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America has always been the land of opportunity
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and we are achieving our American dream
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and we are appreciative of the opportunity.
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We are law abiding, peace loving,
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and happy to serve as doctors, engineers, IT professionals,
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business owners and participate in all the social activities.
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Mayor, I always look for your Facebook page
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that you devote to public affairs and civic engagement.
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I learn a lot, especially on property appraisal and things
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of that kind.
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Thank you mayor , and we would like to have a photograph.
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[Applause]
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Vice mayor, if you will join us.
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The vice mayor has a certificate of recognition to present.
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Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: I'm
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going to attempt to do this without my glasses, that's
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called courage.
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Can we have the Pembroke Pines Running Club come up?
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I'm going to read something and then I will hand this back
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to you .
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I'm going to read this .
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On behalf of the City Commission I'm
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proud to recognize the company as they celebrate
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their first anniversary and you will see them out
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in our community.
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Their dedication to providing health
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through the sport of running has brought people together
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in our city, strengthened our community spirit.
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You have created an inclusive environment
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where individuals of all ages and abilities
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are encouraged to connect, achieve their goals,
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and support one another.
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[Reading celebrants' names]
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We appreciate your commitment to fostering a more healthy,
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connected Pembroke Pines community
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and extend our congratulations and best
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wishes for your extended success ahead.
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I do follow you on Instagram, I don't know that I'm brave enough
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to run several miles, I'm more of a Stairmaster person
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but I appreciate very much for reaching out to me about this.
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I will make up the fact the day I
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was supposed to be there I was sick
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and I did not want to be around you at that time,
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so I will be going out, text me.
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But this is for you all, and if you have anything to say Adrian.
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Speaker: We started this about a year ago, myself and the others,
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this guy right here actually motivated me to start this,
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Dominic .
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My initiative with this was just to get pines moving,
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Pines is a beautiful community and want
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to continue to push our agenda and health
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and wellness out there, we would like
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to continue to align with the city.
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Thank you guys so much .
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[Applause]
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Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: We're going to take a photo.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: I run every four years,
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that's about it, it's a one time event,
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but it's usually a lot of fun .
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I'm glad that you are out and you are doing it,
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congratulations .
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Now we have the charter schools, on behalf of the city Commission
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and our entire community I congratulate the city
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of Pembroke Pines Charter Schools on earning two very
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highly significant awards, the first is the government Finance
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Officers Association Distinguished budget
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Presentation Award, this is a prestigious award that honors
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excellence in budget presentation,
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and the Association of School Business Officers International
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Meritorious Budget Award , and these prestigious national
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honors recognize the city's unwavering commitment
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to transparency, accountability, and the excellence of financial
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structure.
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It reinforces our promise to responsibly manage
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public resources while providing exceptional educational
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opportunities for our students, here to accept these awards
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is the city's Comptroller.
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[Applause]
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Speaker: Even though this award is currently tied to my team
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and myself, it's definitely a team effort and there's a lot
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of work that goes behind it so I do want to acknowledge
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the people that helped put this together,
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that of course is our school leadership team and I thank you
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for your unwavering commitment to our charter schools
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dedication to our students, individuals in our finance
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department, my team on a day to day basis and last I want
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to personally thank my mentor Who always supports me .
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I'm accepting this on behalf of all of those teams
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that make this
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[Inaudible]
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City Manager: I'm providing public notice of an upcoming
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community meeting on August 25th from 6 to 7 p.m.
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As required by Florida Law.
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This is not a city commission meeting,
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nor a meeting conducted by city staff,
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although the meeting is being posted by the city.
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The Florida legislature created the Brownfield Redevelopment Act
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cited as separate sections in Florida statutes
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providing for the designation by the City
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Commission for resolution of a future date for one
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or more parcels within the city as a Brownfield area
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and for the corresponding provisions
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of environmental Remediation and economic development.
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State law provides the framework and application requirements
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for the property owners to comply with before resolution
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is placed on the City Commission public meeting
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agenda for consideration.
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One of those requirements concerns public transparency,
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the community meeting being conducted by the applicant,
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we must announce this meeting here during a public forum.
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Wants the applicant has successfully
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completed all the statute requirements
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they must announce and schedule an additional public hearing
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in advance.
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The parcel in question has been posted outside at our posting
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board at the Northwest corner of Pembroke Road in hiatus,
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the public meeting we'll be here on the 25th between 6 and 7 p.m.
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We've posted to a more commissioners may be
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in attendance .
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We will be back at a later date with additional information
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outside of the public meeting Next week.
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Thank you.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Commission report?
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board of adjustment decisions?
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Speaker: None, mayor.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Okay, appointments.
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I'm happy to announce the appointment
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on the advisory board.
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Speaker: Thank you for the opportunity,
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I've been waiting several years and finally it is here.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: He served as an alternate member with
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the Greater Appreciation Board and I want to thank you
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for your service , whenever possible it's my policy
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to appoint alternate members to be regular members because you
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have a sense of what they talk about.
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I really want to thank you for your service, good luck.
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[Applause]
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Commissioner good?
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: Today I'm
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pleased to bring forward the appointment of Hennessy Toledo
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to our citizens Budget Advisory Board, she is in the audience
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if she can come up to the podium while I introduce her
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to our public hearing.
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Yancy has been a resident of Pembroke Pines for eight years
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and she brings both a deep commitment
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to our community and an exceptional professional
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background in municipal finance.
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In her application she expressed a genuine desire to help make
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responsible, transparent, and well informed budget decisions .
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The commitment is something I know
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to be true from professional experience.
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I had the privilege with working with her years
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ago during our time together in government
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and I saw firsthand the level of talent
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that she brings to the table.
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Her professionalism, her mastery of complex financial systems
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and her ability to break down complicated budget issues
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into clear, actionable insights made her
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an invaluable part of the team.
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I will be honest, I was saddened when she moved on because she
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was exactly the kind of steady, thoughtful highly skilled
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professional you always want in your organization .
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Her resume reflects that same strength.
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More than 20 years of experience in government finance,
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including her current role as grants and accounting manager
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and prior service as an accounting supervisor
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and senior budget analysis.
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She has deep expertise in forecasting, budgeting,
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ERP systems and financial reporting.
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That's the precise skill set that strengthens this
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board's ability to analyze complex financial information .
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But beyond her technical qualification,
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she brings a citizens focused perspective and a sincere desire
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to contribute to the long term fiscal health of the city where
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she and her family call home .
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She's experienced, she is committed,
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and she's someone I personally know to be exceptional ,
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so Mister Mayor I make my appointment to the citizens
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Budget Advisory Board.
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[Applause]
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Speaker: Thank you so much for all your kind words,
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I certainly appreciate the opportunity.
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It's an honor to serve my community
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and I will definitely not disappoint,
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I know I have big expectations and I will certainly beat them.
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As of right now I can tell you I feel very honored
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to have this opportunity to speak on behalf of my community
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and I would definitely hope to make some wise recommendations
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as to how we can all move forward
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in a more efficient manner and also
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being prudent and making best use of our budgeted funds, which
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we all know is going to be impacted by the upcoming
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property tax, so I know the budget
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is going to be looked at very closely
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and will be almost scrutinized where we can maximize
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the use of our funds and how we can serve our constituents
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in the best way possible.
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I hope to be part of that effort, I'm honored to be here
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and I thank you again for this opportunity
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and thank you again for your kind words, Commissioner.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: The consent agenda today --
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I'm sorry, go right ahead.
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: I'm also
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proud to bring forward the appointment
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and in this case reassignment of Aaron Lee
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to the city of Pembroke Pines budget Advisory board.
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If he could come up, and as he's making his way,
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let me again introduce you to the public .
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Aaron is a third generation resident
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of Pembroke Pines with more than 20 years of living in the city.
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His roots here run deep, and his commitment to our neighborhoods,
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our family, and our future is unmistakable .
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I want to take a moment to thank his grandmother Betty who is
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here tonight, and his mother Shawna who is also here tonight
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Two women who poured love, discipline, and community
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pride into raising him.
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Their dedication has shaped the young leader
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who is stepping forward to serve the city they wholeheartedly
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support.
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Pembroke Pines is stronger because of families like theirs,
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families who raise the next generation with care show up
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and to lead it.
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Aaron joins this board after serving with distinction
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on the economic Development Board
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where he was highly respected for his professionalism,
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his preparation and his ability to bring
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a fresh community centered perspective to every discussion.
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This tenure there has taught him well,
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he understands how economic choices, development patterns,
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and market trends directly influence the city's long term
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financial health.
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These are exactly the skills that
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strengthen the work of our budget advisory.
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What stands out most about Aaron is his heart for service.
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In his application he wrote that he wants to offer new innovative
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solutions for the greater good of my community while advocating
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for other residents .
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That is the mindset we want guiding
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our fiscal conversations, thoughtful, forward looking,
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and rooted in the lived experience of our residents.
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Aaron is actively engaged in issues that directly impact
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our immediate and surrounding communities,
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he understands the decisions we make today shape the city
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our families want to inherit tomorrow pier his reassignment
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to this board is not only appropriate,
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it is an investment in the kind of leadership that Pembroke
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Pines deserves .
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With gratitude to the family that raised him,
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and confidence in the leadership he
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brings come I welcome him to the Budget Advisory Board.
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Thank you for taking on this opportunity sir .
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Speaker: Thank you everybody , two years ago I was before you
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all because I was coming up for an appointment on being
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on the economic board and I learned a lot of what it takes
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to keep a busy city productive the right way.
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Though this is bittersweet, I do look forward
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to being on the budget advisory board
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and I definitely want to share more innovative ideas
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but also make sure the city goes in the right direction.
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I personally want to thank you for considering me
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for this role, and thank you guys again for having me here.
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: Mayor, Mr. Lee, come back down.
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It's not customary for us to address appointees afterwards,
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but I must tell you that your work on the Economic Development
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Board did not go unnoticed by me and your peers ,
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and everything that was said I want to double that.
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Speaker: You have the commitment of this community,
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keep moving forward, thank you so much.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Today's consent agenda
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consists of items one through five.
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The motion would need to be -- is there a motion?
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it passes unanimously.
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Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Motion
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to approve countertops for housing apartments.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Is there a second?
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Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Thank you
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for your comments in the Monday night memo,
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I do have some follow up questions in the bid package.
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It says there's a project manager assigned to this
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overseeing the installation.
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Do you have that person already identified ?
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So we've been installing these countertops
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for a period of time?
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Assistant City Manager: Multiple times
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this contract has been brought in front of the commission
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and we've awarded it to different bids.
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Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Who
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approves the number of installations expected?
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Assistant City Manager: I believe
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it's the public service department,
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they have a need for renovation.
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I specifically don't know how many are in need of replacement
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today .
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Speaker: There are new apartments that need countertops
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at Pines Place, however, there may be tomorrow .
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Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Do you
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anticipate between now and the end of the year
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68 kitchen bathrooms that would need to be replaced?
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Speaker: No.
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Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Page 13 has a total of 68 units
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currently in the bid spec.
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Given the fact that the property may be sold
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and maybe closed upon before the end of the year,
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I don't know if we are in good faith
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putting this out to bid in good faith
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to a potential vendor that are going to be placing
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time and effort for potentially 68 countertops
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but the closing is anticipated to occur
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before the end of the year.
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I don't know why we are going with this,
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let alone making a potential investment.
[1:12:24]
Especially if we have no foreseeable vacancies
[1:12:28]
in the foreseeable future.
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Speaker: The vendor has no expectations ,
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as we inspect them, very often public works can come
[1:12:51]
in and make the countertops, they don't need to replace them,
[1:12:55]
it happens on an as needed basis.
[1:13:01]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: The current vendor
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is aware of it?
[1:13:08]
Assistant City Manager: This is for as needed service,
[1:13:13]
we go back and work with the community Services department
[1:13:16]
and come up with a different estimate
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or I can change all those quantities to one if that's
[1:13:21]
something you would prefer.
[1:13:27]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: I would like to be able to put
[1:13:28]
something out to the public that is actually going to occur,
[1:13:30]
because what's going to happen is you're going to have a major
[1:13:35]
retailer , they have the economies of scale going from
[1:13:45]
this specific manufacturer.
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You've already selected what is going to be produced
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and what type, therefore the only other possibility
[1:13:58]
for the vendor is to buy in quantity for the cheaper price.
[1:14:06]
If they're putting a bid in, potentially 50 or more units,
[1:14:10]
they're certainly not going to get it if we are only going
[1:14:13]
to be turning over 3 or 4 on an as needed basis .
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You do have a one year cap , which is fine.
[1:14:28]
I'm just not comfortable putting something out on the street --
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it doesn't say as needed In the bid spec.
[1:14:51]
Assistant City Manager: I believe
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the bid spec does represent that it's on an as needed basis,
[1:14:56]
we can always go back and add additional language
[1:14:59]
about the potential sale of the property
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if that would make the Commissioner more
[1:15:03]
comfortable with the item we could change it
[1:15:05]
to unit quantities of one.
[1:15:08]
At the end of the day, we don't really
[1:15:11]
know what is expected at that facility.
[1:15:13]
Turnover can happen any day and needs could arise,
[1:15:16]
so that's why we have this contract just
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on an as needed basis to address those situations
[1:15:22]
but we could definitely do that.
[1:15:33]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: If you're comfortable with that,
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mayor would it be appropriate?
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: So this
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is a contract for both locations?
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you don't want to knock it down to nothing
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when you have Pembroke Pines Point with a bunch of seniors
[1:16:16]
living there.
[1:16:19]
Assistant City Manager: I know the comment was
[1:16:21]
made that the vendors typically by the materials ahead of time,
[1:16:24]
I don't know any vendors buying tons of countertops
[1:16:31]
ahead of time to install them.
[1:16:38]
Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: This is a contract .
[1:16:50]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: What is the source
[1:16:52]
of funds for this contract?
[1:16:55]
Assistant City Manager: Community services
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department's budget.
[1:17:03]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: What is the source of funds,
[1:17:05]
is this a grant?
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comes out of revenues from the rents,
[1:17:13]
and this vendor continues to be available
[1:17:17]
for any potential future?
[1:17:22]
Assistant City Manager: That would
[1:17:24]
be an opportunity for the purchaser
[1:17:25]
to work out with the vendor.
[1:17:31]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: If they want
[1:17:32]
to work out a different contract but they have the ability
[1:17:34]
to use our contract, or their own,
[1:17:36]
has that been thought through?
[1:17:40]
Assistant City Manager: The purchaser would be a separate
[1:17:43]
entity, they could definitely contract with a vendor
[1:17:46]
and utilize the same pricing and the purchaser would have
[1:17:48]
to agree to the pricing, it's definitely something that can be
[1:17:53]
arranged..
[1:18:01]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: What would be the appropriate
[1:18:05]
language to adopt this modification to quantity
[1:18:14]
as needed ?
[1:18:36]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Can you still extract a bid
[1:18:38]
if it has no numbers in it?
[1:18:46]
does it allow you to make a determination on pricing?
[1:18:54]
Assistant City Manager: Staff comes up
[1:18:55]
with a quantity to help estimate what they believe is needed.
[1:19:00]
We go with the lowest bidder once they are qualified,
[1:19:04]
so if we use the quality of one we
[1:19:09]
would just total that versus skewed data
[1:19:12]
with higher quantities for different types of work.
[1:19:26]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: It's right there in the document,
[1:19:29]
on an as needed basis, so I'm not sure
[1:19:34]
that we need this motion.
[1:19:50]
It's right in front of you.
[1:19:57]
On the city's screen, it's 4.1, it's in blue.
[1:20:10]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: That clarifies the as needed,
[1:20:13]
so there's no need for me to make that change ,
[1:20:18]
I think there should be a separation between point
[1:20:21]
and place , I think there ought to be.
[1:20:29]
I would like to , would that be a bifurcation?
[1:20:40]
Speaker: Maybe we can just reference not to exceed a number
[1:20:44]
of units .
[1:20:54]
Can you put in a not to exceed number?
[1:21:01]
Assistant City Manager: I wouldn't recommend
[1:21:03]
that we limit the city to not exceed a certain number,
[1:21:07]
I think if we just identify that these are estimated numbers
[1:21:11]
and we're asking the vendor to provide services
[1:21:13]
on an as needed basis that provides
[1:21:15]
enough information to the vendor to adequately vet the project
[1:21:19]
and gives the city the flexibility To award
[1:21:25]
the parts needed.
[1:21:32]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Can we just
[1:21:35]
procure the actual material and move the labor out?
[1:21:42]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: If you want
[1:21:43]
to have a conversation about the internal operations of the city,
[1:21:46]
this is not the place to have it.
[1:21:49]
This entire discussion , I didn't see the as needed and I
[1:21:59]
didn't see the 68 versus the one versus the discussion about
[1:22:05]
whether or not it should be done on a time materials basis .
[1:22:16]
The staff knows what they are doing ,
[1:22:20]
I think the as needed point was very well taken,
[1:22:24]
it's right there.
[1:22:26]
So unless you have a motion to make, we need to move on.
[1:22:32]
All those in favor say aye?
[1:22:39]
It passes unanimously.
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I have two speakers .
[1:23:18]
Mario Garcia: Good evening mayor , vice mayor,
[1:23:40]
members of the city Council, men and women of the Pembroke Pines
[1:23:47]
Police Department.
[1:23:48]
Thank you for allowing me a few minutes
[1:23:50]
to speak before you about something that's
[1:23:53]
very personal to me, but also something I believe
[1:23:57]
is very important to our entire community.
[1:23:59]
I'm here today as a father who lost his only son.
[1:24:03]
He was a decorated former South Florida law enforcement
[1:24:08]
officer who struggled with PTSD during and after his service.
[1:24:14]
A few years ago, he took his life.
[1:24:19]
There isn't a day that doesn't go by that I
[1:24:23]
don't think about my son.
[1:24:24]
As a father, I will always wonder
[1:24:27]
if there was something more that I could have done,
[1:24:30]
but today I don't want to just focus only on what we lost,
[1:24:36]
I want to focus on lives we can still save.
[1:24:42]
our police officers see things that most people will never
[1:24:46]
see in a lifetime, they deal with the trauma, violence,
[1:24:51]
death, and tremendous pressure, also
[1:24:53]
while being expected to go home at the end of their shift
[1:25:00]
and simply move on.
[1:25:01]
We ask our officers to protect our families, our businesses,
[1:25:05]
and our communities.
[1:25:06]
I believe we have a responsibility to them as well.
[1:25:10]
I am respectfully asking the City Council and the city
[1:25:15]
of Pembroke Pines to look at providing additional mental
[1:25:22]
health resources specifically for the men and women
[1:25:26]
of the Pembroke Pines Police Department that could include
[1:25:31]
confidential counseling, PTSD and trauma service,
[1:25:34]
peer support groups, and making sure that our officers can speak
[1:25:42]
without feeling that asking for help could hurt their careers
[1:25:46]
and their reputations .
[1:25:51]
We cannot wait until another officer reaches that breaking
[1:25:54]
point or until another family has to experience the kind
[1:25:57]
of loss that my family has experienced.
[1:26:03]
my son's life cannot be saved, but perhaps some other
[1:26:11]
officer's life can be.
[1:26:17]
If putting better resources in place
[1:26:21]
helps even one officer to come home safely to their family,
[1:26:26]
then I believe it was well worth every effort and every dollar
[1:26:32]
invested in it.
[1:26:36]
we lost a police officer last week in the city of sunrise,
[1:26:40]
we lost a police officer in the city of Doral 13 days ago ,
[1:26:47]
continues to happen, something has got to be done.
[1:26:53]
I asked the city to look at options
[1:26:55]
that we can explore to make sure that the safety and the wellness
[1:27:00]
of our police officers, men and women, are cared for.
[1:27:04]
Thank you very much for your time , and God help us all.
[1:27:11]
Thank you.
[1:27:20]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: We thank you for your service
[1:27:22]
and for your son's service, I know
[1:27:26]
the police department is in the back
[1:27:28]
and you are part of the citizens group.
[1:27:31]
Please talk to them, and open a dialog that will allow you
[1:27:37]
to know what it is that we do to keep the mental health of all
[1:27:43]
of our officers strong , and let's talk about what more we
[1:27:50]
can do and I want to thank you for coming forward .
[1:27:56]
It's an honor to have you.
[1:28:00]
Second reading ordinance.
[1:28:11]
Speaker: Proposal of the ordinance
[1:28:16]
of the city of Pembroke Pines amending chapter 38
[1:28:20]
of the city's Code of Ordinances which
[1:28:22]
provides for retirement income plan for general employees
[1:28:26]
of the city to completely terminate the plan in accordance
[1:28:30]
with the provisions of the city's code.
[1:29:08]
For the purposes Of Effectuating the termination plan described
[1:29:15]
and provided for herein with codification and effective date
[1:29:21]
for the record the item is now on the floor for consideration.
[1:29:29]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Moved and seconded any discussion
[1:29:35]
or questions?
[1:29:50]
Speaker: Although you may benefit theoretically
[1:29:52]
from the termination plan you are
[1:29:55]
entitled to vote under chapter 12 that may require
[1:30:08]
your recusal from voting.
[1:30:19]
Speaker: I received an email today --
[1:30:38]
Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: Referencing the retirement plan,
[1:30:41]
I don't know anything about that.
[1:30:53]
Speaker: There are no changes to the existing plan.
[1:31:03]
Speaker: That individual has been contacted
[1:31:15]
and told he does have a coda that's part of the plan,
[1:31:22]
it's in the documentation, so he was notified.
[1:31:31]
Commissioner Thomas Jr.: So there's
[1:31:31]
a clear reference to the documentation that
[1:31:33]
indicates This plan, or whoever is
[1:31:42]
going to assume responsibility.
[1:31:49]
the most important thing for me is just that it's all spelled
[1:31:52]
out .
[1:32:01]
There was no reference in any of the controlling documents and I
[1:32:10]
just wanted to make sure it exists .
[1:32:17]
That's all I needed.
[1:32:24]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Will you please call the roll? [ Voting -
[1:32:38]
all ayes]
[1:32:45]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: This item passes unanimously,
[1:32:47]
thank you very much.
[1:33:01]
I want to congratulate the city manager, city attorney, and also
[1:33:10]
Mr. Rothstein for a job well done.
[1:33:13]
Item number seven.
[1:33:23]
Speaker: A motion to adopt proposed ordinance
[1:33:27]
on second and final reading of an ordinance of the City
[1:33:34]
Commission of the city of Pembroke Pines Florida amending
[1:33:38]
ordinance number 2052 providing for an amended
[1:33:43]
budget for fiscal year 2025 2026 for the city,
[1:33:47]
providing for conflicts, providing for severability,
[1:33:50]
and providing an effective date.
[1:33:57]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: By your vote,
[1:34:16]
this item passes, thank you very much.
[1:34:27]
Number eight.
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City Attorney: Proposed ordinance
[1:34:39]
in the city of Pembroke Pines Florida charter
[1:34:45]
authorizing the execution of the agreement
[1:34:49]
to a sub sublease for a real property generally located
[1:34:59]
at 8013 South Palm Drive tower one, 8210 Florida Drive Tower
[1:35:08]
two, and 8203 Florida Drive Tower three,
[1:35:12]
collectively referred to as Pines Place
[1:35:15]
and described in exhibit B which property is subleased
[1:35:17]
by the city from the State of Florida Department of Children
[1:35:20]
and Family Services and owned by the State of Florida
[1:35:22]
through the Board of Trustees of the Internal Trust
[1:35:24]
Fund of the State of Florida.
[1:35:27]
Authorizing the closing of the transaction contemplated
[1:35:35]
in the agreement effective upon the filing by the City Manager
[1:35:39]
with the City Clerk of a certificate confirming
[1:35:41]
that the closing requirements in the agreement
[1:35:43]
have been satisfied, the form of which
[1:35:46]
is attached here as exhibit C subject to the terms
[1:35:50]
and conditions as set forth in the agreement,
[1:35:54]
authorizing the proper city officials to execute
[1:35:57]
all necessary documents and to take
[1:35:59]
all actions necessary to close the transaction
[1:36:03]
consistent with the authority granted herein,
[1:36:06]
providing that any amendments extending the review
[1:36:08]
period to the agreement to enter sub sublease
[1:36:10]
may be approved by a duly executed resolution of the City
[1:36:13]
Commission, providing for conflicts,
[1:36:15]
providing for severability,
[1:36:16]
and providing for an effective date.
[1:36:22]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: By your vote, this item passes.
[1:36:50]
You have your 4/5 vote, congratulations Pembroke Pines.
[1:36:56]
We are on our way to doing great things with this item
[1:37:01]
and I really look forward to doing the next steps.
[1:37:06]
Number nine.
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City Attorney: Propose resolution vacating
[1:37:22]
the Unplatted utility easement recorded in Broward County
[1:37:27]
official records book and as more particularly described
[1:37:32]
in exhibit A attached hereto and incorporated herein,
[1:37:35]
on the property located at 151 southwest 184th Avenue,
[1:37:40]
Pembroke Pines Florida.
[1:37:42]
More particularly described by its legal description in exhibit
[1:37:45]
B, attached hereto and incorporated herein,
[1:37:49]
providing for recordation, providing
[1:37:52]
for conflicts, severability, and an effective date.
[1:38:00]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Any discussion?
[1:38:03]
All those in favor say aye?
[1:38:10]
Motion passes unanimously.
[1:38:19]
City Attorney: Number ten for the record is motion to adopt
[1:38:22]
proposed resolution number 2026 R 19 ,
[1:38:30]
proposed resolution of the city of Pembroke Pines Florida
[1:38:34]
amending the budget for the State University Charter
[1:38:37]
Elementary School for the charter school fiscal year
[1:38:39]
beginning July 1st 2025 .
[1:38:50]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Any discussion?
[1:38:54]
motion passes unanimously.
[1:39:02]
City Attorney: Next up is number 11,
[1:39:06]
proposed resolution number 2026 R 20 is a resolution of the City
[1:39:12]
of Pembroke Pines Florida, amending the budget for the City
[1:39:16]
of Pembroke Pines Florida State University Charter Elementary
[1:39:19]
School for the charter school fiscal year beginning July 1st
[1:39:22]
2025 providing for conflicts, severability,
[1:39:25]
and an effective date.
[1:39:33]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Motion please.
[1:39:37]
Any discussion?
[1:39:40]
All those in favor say aye, it passes unanimously.
[1:39:56]
Reports of league and MPO representatives.
[1:40:05]
Speaker: Very happy to have attended .
[1:40:18]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: The city of Coral Springs
[1:40:20]
was most interesting, the Sunshine law
[1:40:25]
and things in relation to communications were there,
[1:40:28]
it was really interesting and the theme of it
[1:40:31]
was basically going beyond the social post showing us what
[1:40:35]
the city's example was doing.
[1:40:38]
One highlight that we saw is they're actually doing a series
[1:40:42]
on their social media and YouTube in the daily life
[1:40:46]
of a worker mostly focused on highlighting what their taxes
[1:40:51]
pay for, which I think we talked about here highlighting more
[1:40:57]
with the taxpayer money goes to and so they've done a really
[1:41:07]
beautifully done curated video series that they have online,
[1:41:11]
I encourage our communications department to look at that
[1:41:15]
and they also mentioned a whole host of resources ,
[1:41:22]
the presentation is available on the app when you log in with
[1:41:28]
your credentials for the conference.
[1:41:30]
If you can't find it, I can share the ones I got
[1:41:41]
and be able to take knowledge from what they've been doing.
[1:41:45]
On September 3rd there's going to be the next meeting .
[1:42:07]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: I want to thank all of you that attended.
[1:42:13]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Colleagues who've attended
[1:42:15]
conferences , usually the material covered Is distributed
[1:42:31]
amongst the rest of the commission.
[1:42:33]
If you are able, can you--?
[1:42:57]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Sure.
[1:43:00]
Anything else on that?
[1:43:22]
Mr. Attorney?
[1:43:28]
City Attorney: Regarding the tax issue,
[1:43:30]
we confirmed no appeal has been filed
[1:43:34]
and the parties took the litigation to Tallahassee
[1:43:39]
and Leon County and that item will appear
[1:43:50]
on the ballot in November.
[1:43:59]
Thank you for the coordination regarding the meeting that will
[1:44:04]
occur on the 31st of August at 2:00 regarding the pending
[1:44:09]
litigation.
[1:44:23]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: All right, discussion
[1:44:26]
and possible action regarding the draft of a resolution
[1:44:29]
condemning Islamophobia.
[1:44:34]
I've been working a lot with the Muslim community
[1:44:40]
and engage with the Muslim Students Association
[1:44:43]
and I've heard growing concerns about increased Islamophobic
[1:44:50]
rhetoric, a lot of us have also been hearing anti-Semitic
[1:44:54]
as well on the rise due to global conflicts.
[1:44:57]
Those concerns are reflected nationally across the board
[1:45:00]
and the data showed that religion based hate
[1:45:04]
crimes reached their highest level in 2023 since 2017
[1:45:08]
and a few research poll found Muslims reported
[1:45:14]
discrimination had increased following
[1:45:18]
recent global conflicts.
[1:45:21]
I'm asking for the Legal Council to develop
[1:45:26]
the appropriate language for the resolution to formally adopt
[1:45:30]
a resolution requesting the administration
[1:45:34]
to add this to existing discrimination policies.
[1:45:53]
It would be according to those guidelines
[1:45:58]
as well, this is not to provide special protections,
[1:46:04]
it's about reaffirming a standard that applies equally
[1:46:08]
to everyone in Pembroke Pines.
[1:46:10]
No person should face discrimination, threats,
[1:46:14]
violence, or unequal treatment because of their religion
[1:46:17]
or perceived religion.
[1:46:34]
When antisemitism, anti hatred, racism and other forms of bias
[1:46:42]
affect our community, we must speak effectively against them
[1:46:47]
and I hope we can do that here .
[1:46:53]
It's just the direction to the city's attorney office,
[1:47:02]
and I hope we can discuss that here.
[1:47:08]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: This commission
[1:47:08]
has never shied away from the principle
[1:47:10]
that every single resident of Pembroke Pines regardless
[1:47:12]
of characteristics of birth or chance are welcomed here
[1:47:15]
and should be respected on equal terms.
[1:47:18]
We have the same set of laws that apply to everyone,
[1:47:26]
and there's no reason for there to be this kind of bigotry
[1:47:33]
or racism or hatred of any kind in the city
[1:47:36]
is diverse and beautiful as ours, and really does get along.
[1:47:43]
While the state of Florida has created
[1:47:45]
some new laws in that regard that
[1:47:47]
don't go into effect until the beginning of this year,
[1:47:51]
if we do not require Tallahassee or anybody else
[1:47:54]
to tell us what our conscience already tells us
[1:47:57]
which is that respect for everyone regardless of how they
[1:48:05]
pray or where they're from, what color they are, their age
[1:48:11]
or who they love or any of those other things.
[1:48:14]
Here in Pembroke Pines, we stand up for the dignity of every
[1:48:20]
human being .
[1:48:27]
They are accountable to the law for their behavior
[1:48:30]
but not to their status as it relates
[1:48:32]
to characteristics of birth.
[1:48:36]
We've done it before, there are two previous resolutions that
[1:48:41]
are in effect that were passed by the previous Commission
[1:48:47]
and have never been overturned by this commission,
[1:48:51]
I hope they never are.
[1:48:52]
This adds to that , we did indeed pass an antisemitism
[1:49:00]
resolution.
[1:49:03]
Everyone here is welcome, respected,
[1:49:08]
and as the governing body of this city it's
[1:49:12]
important we be on the record to say
[1:49:16]
that everyone matters so I have no difficulty with your item.
[1:49:23]
Anybody else wish to speak?
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: I agree with modifying our anti
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ordinance, I just want to make sure the city attorney
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recognizes that any changes to the document does not conflict
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with state statute and it does not endorse any organization
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and involve any prohibited entity .
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I can tell you our Muslim residents
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are part of the fabric of Pembroke Pines.
[1:50:21]
Families who contribute to our city every day,
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and standing against discrimination
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towards them is simply just standing for our community,
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so I certainly support Your discussion
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and your bringing this forward, Commissioner Rodriguez,
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thank you.
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Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Remember the days
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when God forbid you sat down next to a Muslim
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and had the conversation and broke bread.
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But the truth is , I condemn hatred,
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intimidation and discrimination on all levels.
[1:51:35]
Anti-Semitism, it's been less than a year since I've been
[1:51:41]
attacked on social media .
[1:51:49]
We have an opportunity to embrace the resolution
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that we passed to include all whether you're
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a Muslim, a Jew, a Hindu, people of faith, people with no faith.
[1:52:19]
They have every single right that everybody else does ,
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so I'd like to be able to include that , city attorney.
[1:52:32]
And just know that the city will continue
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to stand against hatred and discrimination.
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Mayor, I remember 2015, an eight year old boy
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attending Pines Mill who came up to me and said he
[1:52:54]
was being bullied in school because he was Muslim,
[1:53:00]
and I went to the parents and the parents
[1:53:02]
were afraid to speak out because they thought
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they were going to get horrific things done
[1:53:07]
to them Or their property.
[1:53:13]
And that is three blocks away from here, right inside
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the municipal boundary of Pembroke Pines.
[1:53:23]
I remember knocking on the door and an individual
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came out and says I'll support you Commissioner
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if you get rid of that so and so three doors down from me.
[1:53:42]
If we're going to re-do this Resolution,
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we need to acknowledge there's hatred existing
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today in the current boundaries, anything else is just words.
[1:54:26]
Resolutions are only paper unless we act upon those words.
[1:54:31]
This country is beautiful because all of us
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have the same goal.
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Living in peace, freedom, raising a family .
[1:54:50]
The United States of America is beautiful ,
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but it's being torn apart by rhetoric.
[1:55:00]
November is coming and the rhetoric
[1:55:02]
is going to get even worse.
[1:55:08]
the question is, what are we going
[1:55:10]
to do as neighbors to go you know what?
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That's not acceptable.
[1:55:18]
Are we going to be part of feeding the nonsense ,
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identify people red blue purple green, are we going to do that?
[1:55:32]
it's not the neighbors I know, the friends that I have.
[1:55:37]
But they exist within our society .
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I don't want to get any more emotional than this mayor,
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so I will stop.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: I'm sensing that we have consensus.
[1:56:04]
A lot of people say to me what has happened to America
[1:56:10]
and what is going on with all this hatred and division?
[1:56:16]
America is just fine, she is waiting for us exactly where we
[1:56:22]
left her, hopeful that we will come back .
[1:56:27]
And that's why it's so important when
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we say to young people and one another welcome to America,
[1:56:35]
that those words mean something and that they
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don't mean the wrong thing.
[1:56:44]
I want to thank you for coming forward with this.
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City Attorney: I've listened to the discussion ,
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I also am wary and aware of the various statutes regulations
[1:57:09]
and policies in the legal matters that you are aware
[1:57:14]
of as well which we consider very seriously as we craft
[1:57:17]
the document we can live with legally, operationally,
[1:57:22]
and for the benefit of the City of Pembroke Pines,
[1:57:26]
we will do that.
[1:57:59]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: I don't want anyone to misunderstand
[1:58:01]
the action that we are doing , we just all need to get along
[1:58:08]
better, we need to shape up that way.
[1:58:14]
Thank you again Commissioner Rodriguez
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for a very well thought item.
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With that consensus, we now have item 13 .
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Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: I just wanted to put on the table
[1:58:36]
a discussion request update .
[1:58:43]
I know there was also some follow up questions
[1:58:48]
so staff can let us know how the texting program is working
[1:58:51]
and how people can sign up and afterwards
[1:58:54]
make sure we have that information rotate it online.
[1:58:58]
I know it's been published multiple times .
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Speaker: I had a couple of questions
[1:59:40]
that I think a lot of them were explained within the memo
[1:59:45]
but I wanted to ask.
[1:59:50]
There's a program with the emergency
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and non-emergency texting, can you speak on that
[2:00:03]
so we have an explanation and if you
[2:00:05]
are able to share any sorts of communication
[2:00:08]
it would be greatly appreciated.
[2:00:18]
Speaker: Currently the system is contracted through the state's
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Emergency Management department, and through this system
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we can push out both emergency and non-emergency notification
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systems.
[2:00:28]
The emergency notification systems are set out city wide,
[2:00:33]
so it goes to tens of thousands of residents that have
[2:00:37]
information that links them to Pembroke Pines and emergency
[2:00:42]
notifications are intended for anything that presents a safety
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concern, and no one --
[2:00:55]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: Can you
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give us an example of what might be sent out in that manner?
[2:01:01]
Speaker: We've only posted a city wide emergency alert once
[2:01:04]
since we implemented the system, and that was when Flamingo Road
[2:01:08]
and the Boulevard westbound and northbound lanes were completely
[2:01:12]
shut down , I thought it rose to a safety concern and so everyone
[2:01:25]
who has any sort of connection to Pembroke Pines
[2:01:27]
that's in the Everbridge system received that alert .
[2:01:34]
That's intended for just emergency
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purposes safety concerns.
[2:01:39]
Typically I would not use it for traffic related issues except
[2:01:44]
for the specific location .
[2:01:57]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: I believe you can sign up online,
[2:02:00]
Mr. Clark can you show us where that is?
[2:02:06]
so people know how to sign up for the opt in one,
[2:02:12]
my understanding is it is guided more
[2:02:15]
towards non-emergency scenarios.
[2:02:20]
Speaker: They could sign up and put their contact information,
[2:02:23]
whatever they prefer, and they can choose once they sign up
[2:02:28]
they will automatically always get emergency notifications
[2:02:31]
but there are now three categories for opt
[2:02:34]
in non-emergency which includes city events,
[2:02:38]
city services and city traffic alerts .
[2:03:10]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: I believe
[2:03:12]
it is that free cost, correct?
[2:03:21]
Speaker: From what I understand, it is completely free of charge.
[2:03:27]
Because Everbridge is contracted through the state,
[2:03:32]
it is free of charge from what I understand .
[2:03:54]
Speaker: The grant is no charge for emergency and non-emergency.
[2:04:02]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: If there's
[2:04:04]
construction on our particular road or things like that
[2:04:06]
and there's going to be a disruption in the space,
[2:04:10]
this text messaging program can also
[2:04:13]
be worked towards that as well, correct?
[2:04:20]
Speaker: We have templates already, yes.
[2:04:27]
Speaker: If you are signed up for the opt in notifications,
[2:04:30]
I have been utilizing the system regularly since June
[2:04:33]
for disruptions , so I very highly recommend residents
[2:04:41]
to opt in.
[2:04:51]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: I wanted
[2:04:51]
to be able to promote this as much as possible because it's
[2:04:54]
only really as useful as however many people sign up
[2:04:57]
and opt into it, and I wanted obviously
[2:05:00]
to bring attention to it which is why I put it on the agenda,
[2:05:04]
so if we can continuously online and on social media
[2:05:08]
be able to communicate that we have this communication system,
[2:05:12]
I think not necessarily innovative as we all
[2:05:16]
have text messages, but it really
[2:05:18]
slims down all the constant barrage of information
[2:05:20]
we get on social media.
[2:05:22]
This is very particular and we can Geo target
[2:05:26]
for specific circumstances, so I think
[2:05:29]
it's a wonderful system and program the city is
[2:05:32]
able to provide with a grant free of cost until 2029,
[2:05:36]
after that hopefully the grant continues but I just
[2:05:40]
wanted to highlight that.
[2:05:49]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Anyone else
[2:05:50]
have any questions about this?
[2:05:54]
let's get to item 14.
[2:05:59]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Possible action
[2:06:01]
to direct the city attorney to draft an ordinance amending
[2:06:05]
a section of the city's Land Development Code currently
[2:06:08]
referenced as domesticated livestock and poultry
[2:06:10]
to include provisions for the management of livestock waste.
[2:06:15]
Staff has provided some language for us to consider,
[2:06:23]
and if you have any questions about that language?
[2:06:42]
The purpose of this is to protect the public from horse
[2:06:50]
manure waste properly using the appropriate storage bins,
[2:06:59]
how you manage it to prevent runoff,
[2:07:04]
and this came forward from the discussion back in May or June I
[2:07:10]
believe .
[2:07:15]
Most of it is in the backup, so I would ask my colleagues
[2:07:18]
for a second.
[2:07:24]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Item dies for lack of a second.
[2:07:26]
Item 15.
[2:07:33]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Discussion and possible action
[2:07:38]
to review the administration previous agenda item ,
[2:07:45]
I have the city attorney to come down.
[2:07:53]
This one is a little bit unique, this was not
[2:07:58]
commission driven back in 2024.
[2:08:04]
This was prepared by administration,
[2:08:08]
placed on an agenda and subsequently pulled
[2:08:13]
by the administration for a reason that has not really
[2:08:19]
been quite explained in the public view.
[2:08:23]
I sat down with code enforcement now three times this year ,
[2:08:31]
once in January, again in February, last time without Mr.
[2:08:37]
Sherman's presence because it wasn't included in the invite,
[2:08:41]
that would have been in July.
[2:08:45]
The city manager, city administration was asked on all
[2:08:52]
three of those meetings when and if the item would ever come back
[2:09:11]
City Manager: I just want clarity
[2:09:12]
that the item was pulled because it was never discussed with me.
[2:09:17]
Normally the policy of commission
[2:09:19]
if there's going to be a change there
[2:09:22]
has to be a motion to direct the city attorney to do so.
[2:09:26]
I was not involved in any of those meetings concerning
[2:09:31]
this item, and that was the reason it was pulled.
[2:09:36]
As indicated, this item should have been brought forward asking
[2:09:41]
for the city Attorney's office to prepare an item regarding
[2:09:49]
these code enforcement issues , that is all we are waiting for .
[2:10:08]
I was informed there were suggestions that were made,
[2:10:11]
I know our city attorney Brian was involved
[2:10:18]
and this item should have been placed on the agenda
[2:10:21]
to instruct the city attorney to prepare
[2:10:23]
an ordinance with some direction and the ordinance
[2:10:28]
would come back to the Commission
[2:10:29]
to give them an opportunity to hear what the issues are
[2:10:34]
and discuss them at that time.
[2:10:43]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: What
[2:10:45]
I recall hearing in the meeting in January of this year,
[2:10:47]
and again in February of this year,
[2:10:52]
was that it was pulled to give Vargas the opportunity
[2:10:57]
to review the policy.
[2:11:00]
At those two meetings I had inquired of the city manager
[2:11:03]
to review the information, here we are just about September
[2:11:09]
and I had to put it on because we haven't had any movement.
[2:11:14]
Basically, I want to give the microphone to the city attorney
[2:11:19]
Sherman, but without stealing his thunder,
[2:11:24]
our magistrates would have another tool in their toolbox
[2:11:31]
to address repeated offenders if we were to take Mr.
[2:11:38]
Ross's polling, the public does not have a majority
[2:11:42]
of confidence in our code enforcement .
[2:11:48]
Looking at that, I learned the end of the meeting two weeks ago
[2:11:55]
I was requested if this was going to come up I
[2:12:00]
need to put it on.
[2:12:01]
So it's here because I've asked the administration three times
[2:12:04]
to bring it forward and they said
[2:12:07]
if you want to discuss it you need to bring it forward,
[2:12:12]
the city attorney's office never really reviewed it
[2:12:15]
but I don't know how that's even possible considering staff
[2:12:19]
has two exhibits with strikeouts.
[2:12:24]
Staff didn't do that.
[2:12:25]
I mean, maybe staff did it, but it's not the dollar amount .
[2:12:38]
I'm not fixated on one value of how much a fine should be.
[2:12:45]
Would I recognize is that we made
[2:12:52]
an adjustment for other items within our city policies
[2:12:58]
because $10 today is a lot less money than it was ten years ago,
[2:13:04]
and we clearly do not have the attention of repeat offenders
[2:13:11]
when it comes to cleaning up their property,
[2:13:21]
coding up the compliance.
[2:13:22]
And the magistrate has the ability
[2:13:24]
if the city were to allow them to do so,
[2:13:28]
to look at some other options.
[2:13:32]
Can you please address the commission on exhibit one which
[2:13:42]
I believe is an actual proposed ordinance whereas clause .
[2:13:51]
Staff didn't do that.
[2:13:52]
There's code, there's underlines.
[2:13:54]
Staff did not do that, somebody had to prepare that.
[2:14:00]
As the city attorney, do you have any recollection
[2:14:05]
on how exhibit one and two showed up?
[2:14:38]
Assistant City Attorney: We were asked to put something together
[2:14:42]
for discussion, understanding it still
[2:14:46]
needed to go to commission.
[2:14:48]
We drafted this particular document,
[2:14:51]
as to why it was pulled or anything
[2:14:54]
that happened after it was submitted,
[2:14:56]
I would refer you to Mr.
[2:15:06]
[Inaudible]
[2:15:17]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: City manager Dodge,
[2:15:19]
we have a product produced, give us
[2:15:22]
the opportunity to discuss it.
[2:15:37]
City Manager: If an item is to be presented and drafted
[2:15:39]
as an ordinance, it must first be presented to the Commission
[2:15:42]
to discuss and then the city attorney prepares it
[2:15:46]
and then we consider it as a vote.
[2:15:49]
This was totally inappropriate, the police chief wasn't
[2:15:55]
aware of it, I wasn't aware of it, no one consulted
[2:16:00]
or even presented any to me.
[2:16:05]
Some of these fines I think are absolutely ridiculous to expect
[2:16:11]
a homeowner to be fined up to $1,000 per day for a violation
[2:16:17]
for the first violations I'm reading right here.
[2:16:21]
As we know, the purpose for code is compliance,
[2:16:24]
it's not a fine or to penalize somebody.
[2:16:30]
Usually those who have these violations, if it
[2:16:33]
was for not cutting their grass or maintaining their property
[2:16:37]
or painting their house, it's probably
[2:16:41]
because they didn't have the resources to do it
[2:16:43]
and now you are looking at putting fines that in my opinion
[2:16:53]
are ridiculous.
[2:16:54]
I suggested before this item come on
[2:16:58]
it be an item to direct city attorney to prepare something
[2:17:02]
with ideas that the commissioner would have
[2:17:05]
and then once you do that, it's incorporated.
[2:17:10]
We never present an ordinance that has not been directed to do
[2:17:15]
so by the Commission .
[2:17:19]
Was out of place, it wasn't discussed with
[2:17:21]
the administration, if a staff person did it
[2:17:25]
at someone's request, I don't know whose request it was at ,
[2:17:30]
it certainly wasn't from my office.
[2:17:33]
I think this evening, there's nothing wrong
[2:17:37]
with changing this motion to instruct the city
[2:17:39]
attorney to prepare something based
[2:17:41]
on a recommendation by a commissioner
[2:17:45]
and bring it back to the Commission for consideration.
[2:17:55]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: I'm trying hard to be as kind
[2:18:00]
about this as I can, but --
[2:18:12]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: There have
[2:18:13]
been certain items brought before this commission that
[2:18:15]
have not been vetted by staff.
[2:18:17]
Even though we have two new members,
[2:18:21]
we have all been here long enough
[2:18:23]
to know that we rely on professional staff
[2:18:26]
to assist us in organizing presentations
[2:18:30]
before the Commission, and with respect to this matter, that
[2:18:34]
was not done.
[2:18:35]
The city manager wasn't talked to,
[2:18:38]
the police chief wasn't talked to,
[2:18:40]
I don't know how this came up.
[2:18:43]
I've never seen it before.
[2:18:45]
Substantively, I am not a fine increase mode from $250 to 500
[2:18:54]
or 1000 , that's just not in my judgment a thing that has any
[2:19:03]
sense of place or time right now .
[2:19:08]
In my state of the city speech I made note of the fact that 80%
[2:19:13]
of all code compliance concerns in the community whether
[2:19:19]
in violation, 80% are voluntarily resolved .
[2:19:28]
While I hear a lot of stuff out there about code compliance,
[2:19:32]
people are very slow to pick up the phone and call it in,
[2:19:40]
but they want to complain about the community.
[2:19:42]
And then when we pass things like don't park on your lawn,
[2:19:46]
they call us all kind of names because we
[2:19:49]
are enforcing this stuff.
[2:19:53]
Just a quick vignette, I remember a phone call I got from
[2:19:58]
a lady in Pines Village , she wanted to sell her house.
[2:20:05]
She had a good price, she had a homeowner that was looking
[2:20:10]
to buy her house to live there , but her neighbor had three
[2:20:18]
trucks and two broken down cars parked on the lawn and she
[2:20:21]
looked at that and said I love your house, it's a great price,
[2:20:25]
but I can't live like this.
[2:20:27]
That person lost the sale because we don't have a sense
[2:20:34]
of standards , so we went to staff,
[2:20:39]
it was done in the right way , and we created some new rules.
[2:20:45]
Now all of a sudden people are complaining
[2:20:47]
because they can't park their car on the lawn anymore.
[2:20:50]
It's enough to tear your hair out!
[2:20:55]
If we want to have a conversation about code
[2:20:59]
enforcement, I think we should, and if there's
[2:21:03]
an appetite for more fines, much less what I'm looking at here,
[2:21:10]
thousands of dollars, if someone wants
[2:21:13]
to have that discussion you should have it, but let's
[2:21:16]
vet these items through the staff.
[2:21:19]
I'm sick and tired of staff saying
[2:21:22]
I never heard this before, no one ever contacted me.
[2:21:25]
We have people here who are responsible for assets
[2:21:28]
and money, go and see them and then bring
[2:21:33]
an item that is vetted so we can have this discussion.
[2:21:48]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: If the clerk can pull up
[2:21:51]
the first page, I know we have a really good IT department.
[2:21:54]
This file was created January 13th 2025,
[2:21:57]
clearly somebody stuck it in.
[2:22:07]
It was on our agenda on the 5th of February 2025,
[2:22:18]
and then it got pulled.
[2:22:23]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Did the city Commission order this item?
[2:22:28]
so this is just a request for the city manager
[2:22:30]
that was never presented to us?
[2:22:34]
You're looking at some draft, and what is your point?
[2:22:41]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: The manager
[2:22:42]
had concerns of how it got there.
[2:22:47]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: It doesn't matter how it got there,
[2:22:49]
it didn't go through the administration and it was never
[2:22:52]
before us .
[2:23:00]
Commissioner, if you were still bringing the items to manager
[2:23:03]
back after it's vetted with staff,
[2:23:07]
we are duty bound to entertain it
[2:23:10]
but staff have to be met with, the police chief
[2:23:15]
has to be met with, the director of code has to be met with,
[2:23:18]
the city attorney should be part of that.
[2:23:20]
If you want to bring an item to raise the fines or whatever--
[2:23:27]
I'm looking at what I'm reading.
[2:23:34]
If you wish to bring an item, meet with staff, vet your item .
[2:23:45]
We are now on item 16, Commissioner vice mayor.
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Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: Thank you for making this
[2:23:59]
the longest possible item ever .
[2:24:08]
As our city attorney advise us , the governor vetoed bill --
[2:24:37]
the bill would have required operating requirements .
[2:24:45]
Notwithstanding the veto and given a clear proliferation
[2:24:47]
of the use of e-bikes, e-scooters,
[2:24:50]
and related micromobility devices by not just
[2:24:53]
the general population of adults,
[2:24:56]
but also a significant number of minor children
[2:24:58]
and publicized evidence of debilitating injuries accidents
[2:25:01]
and significant life safety issues
[2:25:03]
and impacts affecting this proliferation,
[2:25:05]
I will respectfully seek the following
[2:25:07]
from the mayor, City Commission, and city administration.
[2:25:11]
A motion to authorize and to direct the city's police
[2:25:15]
department professionals via the City Manager
[2:25:18]
to provide a public review and report to the Mayor and City
[2:25:21]
Commission in the near term as to the existence
[2:25:23]
and use of e-bikes and related devices in the city,
[2:25:27]
and an analysis of recommendation
[2:25:29]
to better protect the public health and safety
[2:25:31]
necessitated by the ongoing proliferation of such devices
[2:25:34]
in our community.
[2:25:35]
And a motion to authorize and direct the City Attorney's
[2:25:40]
Office to review viable and lawful legislative alternatives
[2:25:42]
for City Commission consideration
[2:25:44]
as to the potential regulation of e-bikes and related
[2:25:46]
micromobility devices to protect best the health safety
[2:25:49]
and welfare of the citizens and residents of the city and others
[2:25:52]
who may utilize the city's public streets, highways,
[2:25:56]
sidewalks and parks.
[2:26:03]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: So with that objection
[2:26:06]
I'm going to combine the two motions
[2:26:09]
and if someone wants to bifurcate them let me know.
[2:26:16]
Is there a second for discussion?
[2:26:30]
Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: I could tell you
[2:26:32]
this was very disappointing to see that the governor vetoed
[2:26:42]
legislation to deal with an issue that's starting
[2:26:46]
to take over our communities.
[2:26:50]
The state was probably the best level to manage this particular
[2:26:53]
concern .
[2:26:58]
What you've put here is an excellent start,
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I 100% support all of this review
[2:27:07]
and would also like to ask if you would consider
[2:27:10]
adding something that would also incorporate what are
[2:27:16]
other cities doing in the area.
[2:27:23]
We could make a law here going to Miramar or any one of these
[2:27:31]
other cities , and this is the crux of the problem.
[2:27:37]
It's got to be a regional type of thing,
[2:27:40]
we are having some discussions but this is really good,
[2:27:48]
we need to really understand what it is
[2:27:51]
and how it impacts our city but we also
[2:27:54]
need to understand what our city is doing in regards to this
[2:27:58]
and trying to dovetail whatever we want to do with what
[2:28:02]
other people are doing or go and do a presentation asking them
[2:28:08]
to consider adopting something, I
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ask you incorporate some form of regionalization as well.
[2:28:34]
Speaker: Those folks up there never
[2:28:35]
vote unanimously on any legislation,
[2:28:37]
it was a unanimous vote.
[2:28:40]
Governor Desantis on June 25th or 26th vetoed it .
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Sometimes I can understand where the governor is coming from,
[2:28:50]
sometimes I can't and this one I can't.
[2:28:53]
Ultimately I don't want to put words in your mouth but there
[2:28:56]
are often times we are upset with Tallahassee preempting us
[2:28:59]
but then there are other times where uniformity,
[2:29:02]
because to your point, you can go down 1/84 close by where I
[2:29:09]
live and after you cross Pembroke Road they come through
[2:29:14]
our city and if you don't have uniformity,
[2:29:18]
it's challenging I believe it's Cooper City,
[2:29:27]
possibly Coral Springs also was mentioned.
[2:29:31]
This is a starting point, and I don't have the answers.
[2:29:39]
I think law enforcement has something they could present .
[2:29:48]
I know Mr. Mayor, our neighbor and constituent back there,
[2:29:55]
he's passionate about the issue and I wanted to mention
[2:29:59]
something .
[2:30:04]
But if you don't know a lot about Senate Bill 382,
[2:30:09]
I think it's important to know nobody's
[2:30:13]
banning any of these vehicles.
[2:30:15]
My ten year old daughter said dad,
[2:30:19]
are you trying to take my friends e-bikes and e-scooters
[2:30:22]
away and I said no I am not, I am simply trying to protect
[2:30:28]
the drivers and operators of e-bikes and e-scooters ,
[2:30:37]
drivers like me that will get in a car and drive home when I
[2:30:40]
leave here, and pedestrians.
[2:30:48]
Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: I do want our esteemed police
[2:30:51]
department which does a wonderful job at traffic
[2:30:53]
management, by the way thanks for the first two
[2:30:56]
weeks of school and traffic, I know it's hard,
[2:30:59]
thank you very much for what you've done.
[2:31:02]
School traffic you have these issues with these vehicles .
[2:31:09]
You're supposed to only be about 750 lots,
[2:31:12]
and some go above the 750W, above what normally the limit
[2:31:19]
on the machine is of 28 miles an hour .
[2:31:27]
I believe part of what was going to be required in this bill was
[2:31:32]
reducing speed to ten miles an hour on sidewalks within 50ft
[2:31:37]
of pedestrians .
[2:31:46]
There are no licenses required to operate the vehicle,
[2:31:51]
and no age restriction.
[2:31:55]
If you look at the material provided to me by Pembroke Pines
[2:32:02]
Police and the City Attorney's Office,
[2:32:05]
you are supposed to adhere to the safety rules of the road .
[2:32:11]
If you are 12 years old and have never sat
[2:32:15]
for a driver's license, I'm not sure how you're going to be
[2:32:21]
familiar with the rules of the road,
[2:32:24]
and that's a big part of it I appreciate very much because I
[2:32:30]
see kids riding at, but there has to be some kind
[2:32:33]
of guardrails before they get injured,
[2:32:36]
before a vehicular driver injures them or injures
[2:32:41]
themselves because of an accident that takes place .
[2:32:46]
I know we had two young kids out in the Western part of Pembroke
[2:32:51]
Pines I believe the first day of school who
[2:32:55]
were injured on these e-bikes, or e-scooters.
[2:33:00]
I understand there's a great deal of legality that
[2:33:08]
our wonderful city attorney's office can help us work through,
[2:33:13]
but why I wanted to bring this now is because the governor
[2:33:18]
vetoed this legislation after we had entered summer recess
[2:33:22]
on the City Commission , and therefore we couldn't meet.
[2:33:30]
Also, I was hopeful we would have some progress on this
[2:33:36]
in Tallahassee and I applaud our legislators for Passing it,
[2:33:42]
I don't quite understand why the governor vetoed it.
[2:33:45]
I meant this as a starting point for discussion kicking it
[2:33:48]
to the experts in our police department, our attorneys,
[2:33:53]
and there's a point that there are folks who are either
[2:33:59]
watching or will watch contact our city Commission et cetera
[2:34:03]
who have expressed ongoing concerns,
[2:34:06]
and I just feel that it's incumbent upon us
[2:34:12]
to at a minimum start the process to see how it is we
[2:34:15]
could better protect those drivers and pedestrians ,
[2:34:21]
one is here that will speak to his experience
[2:34:23]
at the appropriate time.
[2:34:25]
I appreciate Commissioner good, your comments, and again, I'm
[2:34:30]
looking to my colleagues for support,
[2:34:32]
and to the experts for guidance.
[2:34:35]
Thank you.
[2:34:50]
Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: I want to mention e-bikes
[2:34:52]
and e-scooters sometimes are a very reliable source of mobility
[2:34:56]
for some of our residents who can't own cars,
[2:35:00]
maybe too young to drive cars and you guys hear me talk about
[2:35:06]
it all the time, the lack of transportation opportunity
[2:35:09]
within the city of Pembroke Pines and we all continued
[2:35:19]
to work on .
[2:35:25]
We wanted to make the regulation so it
[2:35:27]
would be safer for the movie to be able to use
[2:35:33]
these vehicles in a sense.
[2:35:37]
Setting forth the right regulation,
[2:35:41]
possibly children and speed and things
[2:35:45]
like that, but there are people who use them
[2:35:47]
because cars are very expensive and gasoline is very expensive
[2:35:51]
and this is a way that some people have been getting around
[2:35:58]
because of the ease that you can get around without actually
[2:36:02]
pedaling the bike so I wanted us to be able to have that in mind
[2:36:15]
as well.
[2:36:16]
The goal isn't to ban, but we don't
[2:36:18]
want to overregulate what some people use
[2:36:21]
as their only source of mobility to get to and from work.
[2:36:25]
I wanted to flag that and mention balancing the safety
[2:36:34]
but also the protection of our residents to be able to get
[2:36:38]
to and from where they need to go .
[2:37:08]
Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: There are multiple conversations
[2:37:10]
with the police department going back last year and again in June
[2:37:15]
and again recently, I don't want to speak for the chief
[2:37:20]
but we are all hopeful there would
[2:37:22]
be some guidance from Tallahassee
[2:37:23]
or some regulation from Tallahassee,
[2:37:25]
and again unfortunately the governor
[2:37:27]
vetoed it so I've been in contact both with Chief Vargas's
[2:37:32]
command staff, City manager Dodge,
[2:37:36]
and of course Mr. Sherman and Mr. Gorin.
[2:37:52]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: If the governor hadn't vetoed it,
[2:37:55]
it would have been a moving violation ?
[2:38:01]
Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: The text
[2:38:03]
is there in the Senate bill.
[2:38:16]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Will there be a code enforcement
[2:38:18]
city attorney?
[2:38:24]
City Attorney: It would be a code violation,
[2:38:25]
and all bicycles are classified the same way .
[2:38:37]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: I'm just trying to see
[2:38:39]
the enforcement side of it , if it hadn't been vetoed if we are
[2:38:45]
looking at doing something unless it becomes a code
[2:38:51]
enforcement matter .
[2:39:00]
City Attorney: Depending on how the drafting occurs,
[2:39:02]
the regulation would be essentially a police issue.
[2:39:12]
Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: Are you hearing with direction
[2:39:15]
from the commission that you would make it police enforcement
[2:39:19]
action .
[2:39:28]
Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: My intent is not
[2:39:30]
to have our code enforcement out policing these vehicles,
[2:39:35]
I appreciate what Commissioner Rodriguez said
[2:39:39]
which is why I'm not looking for any sort of overregulation, just
[2:39:43]
safety.
[2:39:44]
I want code enforcement going to homes that are violating code,
[2:39:48]
I don't want code enforcement chasing down
[2:39:51]
folks who are driving either irresponsibly above a speed
[2:39:55]
limit or they shouldn't be.
[2:39:58]
I believe this should be a law enforcement matter,
[2:40:02]
I believe the chief is perfectly capable of coming back,
[2:40:08]
the item is asking questions about something that we have
[2:40:13]
the ability to direct administration to come back
[2:40:16]
with, so the answers to what you're saying are looking
[2:40:23]
at each of us and determining what we would like
[2:40:26]
the administration to return with so I would like it to be
[2:40:30]
a law enforcement matter , I think our traffic division
[2:40:39]
police officers within our schools where a lot of these
[2:40:46]
vehicles are, I see them every day dropping my children off
[2:40:49]
or picking them up or when I'm jogging ,
[2:40:55]
I would like this to be a law enforcement issue.
[2:41:09]
Commissioner Jay Schwartz: When the item first came to us
[2:41:11]
it was in complete, so I asked for the item to be recent.
[2:41:15]
For the record for clarification, law enforcement .
[2:41:27]
Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: I believe you are referring
[2:41:28]
to a technical error made by our administrative assistant that
[2:41:32]
didn't put in all of the information .
[2:41:38]
She immediately added the rest of the text,
[2:41:43]
so that's a non issue .
[2:41:54]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Let me weigh in on this ,
[2:41:59]
when stuff like this comes up, I tend to be resistant
[2:42:06]
to legislating quickly.
[2:42:12]
There's a Jeffersonian streak in me,
[2:42:15]
that governs best governs least, let the people figure
[2:42:19]
this thing out if they can.
[2:42:20]
This business with the e-bikes has gotten dangerous.
[2:42:27]
It's gotten dangerous for adults that drive,
[2:42:29]
it's gotten dangerous for adults that use them
[2:42:31]
and it's gotten dangerous for kids that use them.
[2:42:34]
We're hearing more and more about it, Chief Vargas ,
[2:42:45]
I had a good chat with our friend Chief Susan.
[2:42:50]
I don't know if he's North Bay village or Key Biscayne .
[2:42:59]
They had to regulate it because they had deaths and cars were
[2:43:05]
hitting these things.
[2:43:10]
This is a step down from a moped and sometimes a step up
[2:43:17]
depending on what you buy .
[2:43:22]
I am disappointed, vice mayor, that this was vetoed.
[2:43:27]
It's necessary for safety.
[2:43:29]
We are not saying don't use the vehicle ,
[2:43:38]
we are saying it's got to be used safely and there have to be
[2:43:42]
some rules, especially for children.
[2:43:44]
I see kids pulling wheelies on those things,
[2:43:50]
making believe that they are motorcycles and they're doing
[2:43:55]
wheelies, it's unsafe .
[2:44:03]
but I agree with what Commissioner Rodriguez said,
[2:44:07]
which is let's not go crazy with this,
[2:44:10]
let's figure out what's prudent, do that,
[2:44:16]
ordinances can always be amended and strengthened ,
[2:44:22]
but at the same time , these kinds of things have been used
[2:44:28]
in Europe forever .
[2:44:34]
Mopeds and Vespas and all that, they
[2:44:37]
don't have the kind of abuses that we've
[2:44:40]
seen here on terrain that is frankly much more
[2:44:47]
dangerous than ours.
[2:44:49]
So I want to support this, and I want
[2:44:52]
to thank you Vice Mayor for bringing it forward because it
[2:44:56]
definitely stops the problem.
[2:44:58]
It is a police problem, if you see someone
[2:45:01]
in a bike in a road breaking the law, it's a police matter,
[2:45:04]
it's not code.
[2:45:06]
I tell people when you see that, call 911,
[2:45:10]
and they don't want to call 911.
[2:45:12]
If you don't participate in the partnership,
[2:45:15]
you can't be satisfied with the outcome .
[2:45:21]
They want to blog immediately, I saw a bunch of kids,
[2:45:25]
as if blogging it makes it -- people don't understand,
[2:45:32]
the police chief can explain better than I can,
[2:45:35]
there are patterns to things.
[2:45:38]
When you report it to 911, it gets
[2:45:42]
reported on the time and the date and all of that
[2:45:46]
and when the crime analysts see a pattern and safety
[2:45:50]
specialists, they know how to deploy people based on patterns.
[2:45:54]
That's why it's important to report these things.
[2:45:58]
Anything that you see that's a danger or a crime,
[2:46:03]
pick up the phone and report it so they can understand how
[2:46:08]
to manage around those patterns, because they tend to be
[2:46:12]
repetitive .
[2:46:16]
I think Commissioner good's point is also well taken .
[2:46:23]
I don't know how, but we should get a list of efforts
[2:46:28]
to regulate these e-bikes if there were the tri county
[2:46:36]
area, what those ordinances looked like I don't know how you
[2:46:42]
would go about that, but if it's out there
[2:46:46]
and you can search for it there's
[2:46:50]
some best practices out there in terms of ordinances.
[2:46:53]
I know our police department is a very creative one,
[2:46:57]
they will take a look at this and the best practices
[2:46:59]
and come back hopefully with something
[2:47:02]
we can all be proud of.
[2:47:11]
Vice Mayor Michael A. Hernandez: Would you
[2:47:11]
all like to see the presentation or just
[2:47:13]
direct the administration?
[2:47:26]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: How long is the presentation?
[2:47:29]
Come on up.
[2:47:44]
Speaker: I'm currently one of the two supervisors
[2:47:46]
of our traffic division previously assigned
[2:47:48]
to our community Affairs unit and prior to promotion
[2:47:52]
of Sergeant I was assigned to the traffic division
[2:47:54]
as an officer from 2016 to 2019.
[2:47:58]
First off, I would just like to say thank you
[2:48:03]
for allowing us and inviting us to present this information,
[2:48:06]
we are confident it's going to answer most if not all
[2:48:10]
of the things you presented or planned to
[2:48:14]
as well as provide insight into the community, especially
[2:48:18]
parents who may have already purchased these vehicles
[2:48:21]
or were planning to.
[2:48:24]
As well as provide some clarification on misconceptions
[2:48:29]
or confusion about this topic.
[2:48:35]
Vice Mayor Hernandez, as you mentioned
[2:48:40]
there is a clear proliferation increased popularity
[2:48:44]
in electric mobility devices especially
[2:48:47]
with electric scooters and electric bicycles.
[2:48:50]
As Commissioner Rodriguez mentioned,
[2:48:52]
that's due to their affordability
[2:48:54]
and the convenience provided by being able to travel not only
[2:48:58]
further, but faster with much less effort ,
[2:49:03]
and that is why we are seeing them much more frequently
[2:49:06]
in the community.
[2:49:09]
What we are seeing in the police department is an increase in two
[2:49:12]
separate groups that appear to be mistakenly categorized under
[2:49:17]
the same classification as e-bikes .
[2:49:23]
The city attorney mentioned it before, there's actually
[2:49:26]
two separate groups.
[2:49:28]
There's the e-bikes we've been speaking about,
[2:49:30]
but there's more commonly referred to as E-motors
[2:49:33]
which are electric motorcycles, and that's exactly what they
[2:49:39]
are, they're motorcycles.
[2:49:40]
As I mentioned, there's no licensing or registration
[2:49:44]
insurance requirements for electric bicycles or e-bikes
[2:49:47]
because that's exactly what they are, they're just bicycles.
[2:49:56]
Correct, the definition of an electric bicycle
[2:49:59]
is already established in state law.
[2:50:02]
Some of the criteria for a device to be considered
[2:50:06]
an electric bicycle, it must have pedals,
[2:50:10]
it must not exceed 750W of power output and it must have a saddle
[2:50:15]
like a traditional bicycle.
[2:50:17]
It can be traditionally operated by all ages ,
[2:50:26]
there's no additional endorsements required and they
[2:50:29]
can operate anywhere that bicycles can whether
[2:50:31]
that's in the roadway or on the sidewalk and so forth.
[2:50:35]
E motorcycles on the other hand are motor vehicles .
[2:50:47]
Because electric motorcycles are motor vehicles,
[2:50:49]
they do have registration and insurance requirements
[2:50:54]
and sometimes a motorcycle endorsement.
[2:50:57]
They can only ride on the streets and cannot be ridden
[2:51:01]
on the sidewalks and they exceed well above 20mph,
[2:51:06]
sometimes in excess of 50 or 60mph that's the dangerous
[2:51:13]
aspect we are seeing more of is E motors being operated .
[2:51:29]
Depending on the power output of the device ,
[2:51:34]
when the cyclist stops pedaling the electronic assistance
[2:51:37]
of the motor ceases.
[2:51:39]
Speed is 20mph, class two can be a pedal assist or a throttle
[2:51:44]
also max speed of 20mph .
[2:51:52]
There are specific statutes and state law that regulate
[2:51:55]
the modification of these devices to exceed those
[2:51:59]
classified speed limits , and there are traffic violation that
[2:52:05]
can be enforced if it's determined they have been
[2:52:08]
modified to exceed those speed limit regulations.
[2:52:11]
Just like bicycles, they are restricted by the same
[2:52:15]
guidelines, they have to obey all traffic signals and signs,
[2:52:20]
stop at red lights, use signals to indicate change of direction
[2:52:23]
or lane change, yield to pedestrians,
[2:52:28]
and the helmet requirements are the same as bicycles ,
[2:52:36]
they must be utilized by Riders under 16 years of age.
[2:52:50]
they are subject to requirements on roadways and sidewalks
[2:52:54]
and the added danger comes from the added speed,
[2:53:01]
in comparison the average bicyclist rides at 12mph.
[2:53:04]
Here's some local statistics between August
[2:53:07]
of last year and this year, traffic crashes
[2:53:12]
involving e-bikes have been a total of 14,
[2:53:15]
you will notice the location of the crash between the crosswalk
[2:53:20]
and intersection roadway adds up to more than 14,
[2:53:23]
that's because some of those crashes occurred
[2:53:25]
within a crosswalk were also within an intersection.
[2:53:29]
Those crashes, half of the contributing party
[2:53:35]
was the driver of the vehicle and the other half
[2:53:38]
of the contributing party was the operator
[2:53:40]
of the electric bicycle.
[2:53:42]
You see the ages of the riders in the third to last category.
[2:53:56]
This is data specifically towards
[2:53:59]
the electronic motorcycles, same time frame.
[2:54:04]
There's been five crashes, mostly on the roadway and all
[2:54:08]
five were injured and again as I mentioned
[2:54:12]
before, most of these operators are
[2:54:16]
unlicensed and unexperienced juveniles operating
[2:54:19]
what is considered motor vehicles that
[2:54:21]
should be registered.
[2:54:26]
Here's some initiatives the police department has already
[2:54:29]
implemented, traffic division specifically
[2:54:32]
has received specialized training
[2:54:34]
through the University of North Florida Institute of Police
[2:54:38]
Technology and Management, this has been issued to our personnel
[2:54:43]
and the reference materials that we obtain annually
[2:54:47]
include our quick reference traffic violation
[2:54:50]
guides that contain information on e-bike classifications,
[2:54:55]
privileges and restrictions we've provided
[2:54:57]
to you for your reference.
[2:54:59]
Online resources provided through our Office
[2:55:01]
of Communications where we shared numerous posts
[2:55:04]
on all of our social media platforms
[2:55:08]
regarding e-bike safety, and it has been added to our website.
[2:55:14]
Signs have been deployed throughout the city alerting
[2:55:19]
the public to information and where they can find it,
[2:55:23]
and data collection so we can more accurately determine
[2:55:28]
with data dealing with electric bicycles.
[2:55:31]
Future objectives to provide additional training to personnel
[2:55:36]
by providing information on legal updates, education
[2:55:41]
options.
[2:55:42]
We plan to have some coordinated operation along with
[2:55:49]
our neighborhood safety team to focus efforts towards
[2:55:53]
bicyclists, and drivers .
[2:56:05]
Safety tips and information and some clarity
[2:56:09]
between the difference between the vehicles
[2:56:11]
have been provided in the lobby if anyone would
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like to look on the way out.
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This information has been disseminated out to the schools
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and again, we ask the administration
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through the school system to help
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us push out this information.
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That being said, this is really an education initiative
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to let people know that primarily
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the electric motorcycles can and should not
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be operated by juveniles and providing information
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to other riders on how to safely navigate the roadways.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Great job with this, chief and staff,
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outstanding.
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I think we are on to something here that's actually doable
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and will be workable , that we can really get this done.
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I'm sort of interested in knowing the city attorney ,
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as you give this some thought, how we can intervene if not
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legally, then persuasively in some way to get to the parents
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of children that use the E motors and let them know what
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the rules are that do exist and how to stay safe,
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and whether we can take this material which is very valuable,
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and also converted in to some sort of website driven video
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that parents can ask kids to watch before they get on one
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of these things, those are the kinds of things that I think
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make a difference is when we explain to folks you need
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to know how to do it safely.
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to make sure they know the rules, they're using the rules,
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so they can go out there and get it done.
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I asked for a report on civil citation,
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I know that's going to come soon .
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I don't want to see a million arrests unless
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they're absolutely warranted , but police are very good
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at putting together a little gang of kids who are misbehaving
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and saying you should follow the rules because it could save
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your life , so they really need to know this kind of thing.
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I'm all for it, I think there's ways to do this properly .
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I hope it will be statewide one day.
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Commissioner Maria Rodriguez: The county is working,
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they have a specific task force for that and the regulation
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of both .
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Speaker: I'm a resident that have been with the Pines 15
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years now.
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I'm standing by our police department
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for their enforcement.
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I'm an e-scooter rider, it goes 40 miles an hour.
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I ride up and down pines every day, Pembroke Road .
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I see a lot of reckless driving going on with these e motor
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bikes and these 12 year Olds doing wheelies on sidewalks
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and around pedestrians .
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The reason I feel so strongly is because I visit hospitals
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every day, 80% of the injuries I visit at these rehab hospitals
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are motorcycles and bike accidents.
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80% have to do motorcycle knock, bicycle crashes with vehicles,
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and they end up like me.
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I would hate to be the parent that
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has to go visit their 12 or 11 year old in a hospital
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because they got hit on their E motor
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going 50 or 60 miles an hour.
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We are talking about a 12 year old doing wheelies
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in the middle of the street, they are not licensed
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and neither is the equipment and I just
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find it absurd you've got a 60 mile an hour
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vehicle being ridden down the road with children that
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are 12 years old that have no road rules
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and don't understand the dangers,
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and there's zero accountability.
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Why are the parents allowing it ,
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the accountability starts at the home.
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My question is, not when but how many.
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Most cases, paralyzed for the rest of their life
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because they did something stupid on a motorbike
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and I'll be the first one to tell you,
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riding on Pines Boulevard and crossing streets
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here is putting your life on the line because people do not
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stop or yield for pedestrians, they blow through right hand
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turns and people like me have to worry not about how I drive
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but how all other drivers drive.
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That's me as a senior citizen, responsible driver.
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I can't imagine a 12 year old on a motor scooter
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going 60 miles an hour and thinking
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they're going to blow through an intersection
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and they're going to stop for them.
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They will be hospitalized in a rehab center by the time they
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get off that bike and that could be my kids or your kids
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or your grandchild or anybody, I see it happen day in and day out
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and I'm not going to preach a whole lecture I'm just
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supporting my vice mayor Mike for taking on this issue
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because this is dangerous .
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It should not be allowed by anybody,
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let alone people who are not mature minded enough
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to know I shouldn't be doing a wheelie in the middle
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of the parkway, thank you for your support
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and I hope something comes out of this.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: I made the suggestion
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to unify these motions under one item
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consistent with the commentary we've all
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had included in the motion.
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That item passes unanimously.
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That concludes what we had today on the agenda,
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I do have one item on old business.
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I thank you for your indulgence, this will not take long.
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At our last city Commission meeting,
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we had a resident of Pembroke Lakes on 106th come forward
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and talk about a problem with trees with a certain degree
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of urgency expressed to deal with this right away.
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I found that request out of order and I asked for the item
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to come back.
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It was not on the agenda, there's probably a good reason
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why but nevertheless, I inquired the day after that commission
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meeting , and I had certain information that came to me from
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Assistant City Manager.
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Apparently we are already on this issue,
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can you come forward please and tell us what we are doing with
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the trees on 106th and Taft.
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I understand it was an Ada related lawsuit, which
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also connects to some of the sidewalk work
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that we are trying to get done in Pembroke Lakes,
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Can you talk to us about what we are doing regarding the concern?
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Assistant City Manager: There was an Ada complaint --
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City Attorney: The complainant was before the Federal Highway
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Administration, and it was a complainant file in connection
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with the assay and there was no order
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but there was a settlement of some sort that
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relates to the city's obligation providing for a transition plan
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and for a safety plan going forward
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with regard to that issue impacted by Ada requirements.
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Assistant City Attorney: I asked Carl to come join us,
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he will give you some more details.
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Carl Kent, City Engineer: They measured various sidewalks
[3:08:53]
to determine if there were discontinuities between
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the flags , there were like six streets that were identified
[3:09:03]
in the letter where they mentioned the letters .
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They made mention of trees that were uprooting the sidewalk
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and slopes of the sidewalk that were bad,
[3:09:29]
they also made comments about cars parking in the driveway
[3:09:36]
sidewalks , police have been going through the neighborhood
[3:09:44]
and enforcing that .
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The areas that were identified in the letter of finding are
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the ones we are working on first ,
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we are removing the sidewalks and the offending trees and they
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weren't able to get through areas because the sidewalks were
[3:10:26]
sloped in the wrong location and that they had to go through
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puddles.
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It's being done right now.
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Any of the trees that are a move that are needed have been done .
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: What is the timetable
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for completion of this?
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within the next Carl Kent, City Engineer: Within the next month
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or so.
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City Manager: I believe Mr. Bonilla and Mr.
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Hernandez went over the scope of the project and talked about
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the trees , and the replacement trees,
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and it's my understanding he's better placement right now.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Those are the questions that I asked
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and that's the information I've got and I wanted to make sure it
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was on the record, and if there's anything more we have
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to do with respect to trees or sidewalks or anything else,
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it's an important thing for the residents of our community
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to count on the Americans with Disabilities Act for justice .
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Without anything further?
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: New business,
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we received an email from Mary Stevens about activity
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taking place, have we found out anything
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about what they're doing?
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: Maybe 4 or 5 months ago I had
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a conversation with her, as you know,
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it's pretty much been the trash and recycling with the county
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working in tandem with the Solid Waste Authority,
[3:13:11]
but they wish to use a compost location for vegetation .
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That's only tree clippings and that kind of thing,
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no putrefication waste .
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They're also currently using it for concrete and construction
[3:13:42]
debris, Chopping that up and preparing
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it for reuse, and so forth.
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City Manager: I've been following it,
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they haven't made a determination as a company made
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an offer to the county for stated composting vegetation,
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the county is going to have the discussion on this week's agenda
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and they have to decide whether that goes out
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for proposals or just a contract,
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but it's only for that section.
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Mayor Angelo Castillo: You know this
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from your own professional experience
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but my understanding is it doesn't generate
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a great deal of smell or nuisances
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that composting garbage would.
[3:15:13]
City Manager: You're right, providing it's done correctly.
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Many years ago we tried to do composting in the city.
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City Manager: Several years ago, it was municipal solid waste
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back in the early 90s.
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: And it
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was the process that failed, not necessarily the concept.
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City Manager: The problem was the process
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that created an odor.
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: If we could just keep an eye
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on this, because even the county has recognized this could create
[3:15:59]
odors, and the reason why is just because it's not food
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scraps, it's a process where it goes from air to no air and you
[3:16:11]
have anaerobic conditions and needs .
[3:16:18]
What they are doing is putting them outside and of course
[3:16:24]
there's a process that has to keep it nice so you
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don't get air in it.
[3:16:31]
But the point is, the county themselves in their letter ,
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it's very interesting that they are not totally going to do it
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yet.
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It's a good opportunity for us to watch this process.
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I don't know how we can get involved
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in watching the process, it is a negotiation
[3:17:02]
and they could still open it up and have
[3:17:06]
other participants come in.
[3:17:08]
Even though they say it's green waste,
[3:17:12]
it may sometimes include fruit and vegetables.
[3:17:17]
It's just something to still keep an eye on ,
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a plume wherever the wind blows.
[3:17:41]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: How would we go about this?
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: Pay attention to the way it goes
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and if it's going to be acceptable to us,
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and if it's not, then we need to voice an opinion
[3:17:55]
because we've already missed an opportunity where they took
[3:17:58]
the landfill from 100ft to 300ft,
[3:18:02]
we have nothing on record that says we oppose that.
[3:18:06]
At least here if they want to move forward,
[3:18:12]
we want to be on record saying we are not okay.
[3:18:23]
City Manager: I will follow to see what the county decides,
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but I don't think this is going to happen tomorrow,
[3:18:29]
it could be several months .
[3:18:35]
We will follow up on it, but they
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are doing this independently.
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Commissioner Thomas Good Jr.: It's August 20th,
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which is this week, just pay attention to if they accept it
[3:18:52]
and who's going to be taking it on to negotiations, thank you.
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Commissioner Jay D. Schwartz: When do you
[3:19:05]
anticipate bringing us a factory recycling plan?
[3:19:20]
City Manager: The recycling we have to sit and still negotiate
[3:19:22]
and come up with a cost factor.
[3:19:32]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: When do you
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feel you might be ready to present that to us?
[3:19:39]
Assistant City Attorney: The one for the result project,
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the conversation with the commission we are still
[3:19:47]
looking at finalizing the design criteria package.
[3:19:56]
Mayor Angelo Castillo: Once we have the package,
[3:19:58]
I'm thinking we should go to residents and do a survey.
[3:20:02]
We already started the process, maybe we need to think of what
[3:20:14]
different ways we can do this, so I think we should probably go
[3:20:21]
back out and survey people .
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Anything else?
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All right, this meeting is adjourned, thank you very much.