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Okay, so we'll call this city council meeting to order. We respectfully acknowledge that we are on the treaty in traditional territory of the Mississauga and Ashinaabic.
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We offer our gratitude to First Peoples for their care for in teaching about our earth and our relations, and we honour those teachings.
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In addition, the Council for the City of Peterborough recognises the principles contained in our Constitution and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and we'll take 30 seconds to reflect.
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Thank you. Please join us for the national anthem.
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So,
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we're starting off tonight with the ceremonial presentations.
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We have three sovereigns medal for volunteers that we're happy to present.
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And we're just going to go in alphabetical order.
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So, first up, we have Gary Earl from assisting those in need as a volunteer with a telecare
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crisis line to helping a brigade build a school in Honduras.
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Gary Earl has made a positive impact with his volunteer work as part of the community
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volunteer income tax program for the last 33 years.
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He has also helped the citizens of his community file their tax returns.
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Please join me in presenting Gary Earl with the Sovereign's Medal for Volunteers.
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Second, we have David Edgerton.
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Known for his vast knowledge of Canadian military history,
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David Edgerton has been an active member of the Royal Canadian Legion for almost five decades,
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serving on the executive, organizing Remembrance Day services, and conducting funeral services for members.
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He was the driving force behind the Veteran Wall of Honor, which was unveiled in 2010 in Peterborough.
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Thank you so much, David. Please help me congratulate David Edgerton.
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And last but not least, we have Robert Hotston, a volunteer for over 30 years.
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Robert Hotston has devoted his time to such humanitarian causes as refugee support, disaster relief, and sexual and gender-based violence prevention.
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He has also contributed to the Canadian Red Cross and the Canadian Association of Veterans in United Nations peacekeeping.
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Please join me in congratulating Robert Huston.
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Congratulations and thank you gentlemen for all the work you do to make our community a better place.
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So next we have approval of the minutes from June 24th, 2019, moved by Councillor Papas.
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Any additions or amendments? Seeing none, all those in favor?
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Those carry. Any disclosure of pecuniary interest?
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Thank you very much. So then we move on to delegations for items on the agenda. We have three registered delegations today, starting with Megan Hennicam.
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I would like to declare on item 8 the residential conversion and intensification grant as my family and myself own a building that has used the grant in the past.
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Thank you very much.
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So then we move on to delegations for items on the agenda. We have three registered delegations today, starting with Megan Hennicam.
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I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, Megan. I know I'm still used to you being LaFrance, so
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Make it hard
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So you have seven minutes. Okay. Thank you. Good evening everyone
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My name is Megan Hanna come in the executive director of the S shelter for youth and families
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I'm here addressing counsel to share additional information on our upcoming transitional housing plans
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Some of the information you already have so I'm very happy to be fairly quick
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And then if you have any questions, let me know after for over 15 years
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Yes, has been providing service to this community, to youth and families who find themselves homeless
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and have been running a successful housing program in the city's North End for over 15 years in addition to that.
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With incredible success and entirely on Fundraise dollars making it a fairly large challenge.
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The program gives young people what they need to exit homelessness permanently rather than managing a crisis.
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And it's something that we need to do far more of because expecting 16-year-olds to figure out how to exit homelessness
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without support is unrealistic and lacks compassion.
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I'm not going to go into detail about why young people
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are at a disadvantage when it comes to housing in the private market.
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Our unhealthy vacancy rate is one.
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They also compete with secondary students
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and quite a few other things that I'm sure you've heard over the years.
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So I won't go into too many details on that.
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However, the youth who have the opportunity
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to access safe, affordable, and stable housing
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with support of adults regularly have incredible outcomes.
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We were lucky at our annual general meeting to have Councillor Wright and Councillor Zippel take part with us,
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and we celebrated four young people who are graduating, yes, this transitional housing program.
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They've graduated high school and are all heading to post sec, those four are heading to post secondary in the fall.
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So these young people are literally the future tradespeople who will build our houses.
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They're the future PSWs who will take care of all of us as we age.
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and there's so many other young people like those four who need the
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opportunities that those four young people have been able to have. When youth
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are given the opportunity to succeed we find that they do every single time.
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They're smart resilient ambitious and they want to contribute to this
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community positively. They deserve an opportunity to have safe housing and the
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adults that many of us similar adults that many of us were privileged to
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have in our lives to guide them so that they can reach our goals. It's
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also critical that this community support youth by ensuring that they
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have safe stable housing. We've seen in our community that 64% of the adults who
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are homeless were homeless for their first time under the age of 24. So if we
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end youth homelessness we're preventing adult homelessness. Last night there were
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at least 65 youth in our community who were experiencing homelessness. 29 of those
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65 are chronically homeless and the rest are currently
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un chronically homeless but if we don't do something about it that
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will be their future as well.
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Yes has been working very hard over the last year to prevent homelessness and we were successful
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in preventing homelessness for 39 youth and seven families.
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Each of these youth and families identified that they expected to be homeless within two
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business days and we were able to divert them from homelessness.
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What this means is that the people we're seeing in the emergency shelter have a higher
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acuity than what we've seen in the past and again need the extra support that
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we can provide.
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We do not want to see the other 36 youth become chronically homeless as well and
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the only way to stop that from happening is to provide them with housing and the
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supports that they need. We've been fortunate to receive a grant from the
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Ontario Trillium Foundation which will provide three years of operational
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funds for yes to give the young people the positive outcomes that we've been
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seeing for the last 14 years but to more young people. The grant comes
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from OTS Grow Grant Stream which acknowledges programs that have had
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success and allows them to scale that so that that opportunity is available to more people.
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It means that we'll be bringing $710,000 to the communities to support homeless youth
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who are living here right now.
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However, in order for us to use the grant, we have to find space for the youth to live.
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We don't currently have space available, and that's something that we need to solve
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quite quickly as Councillor Parnell highlighted earlier.
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The units that we have requested your support for will be connected to the community's
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biname list and part of the communities built for zero initiative which will
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ensure that we're giving equitable access to the youth in our community to
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get these spaces. With the support from the City of Peterborough we'll be able to
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ensure that the building remains affordable for all. The definition of
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affordable housing currently is 80% of market rent and while the City of
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Peterborough has funded quite a few affordable housing projects over the
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last few years, 80% of market rent is not enough of a deep enough rent
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supplement for the young people that we serve. So these units are not currently
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offering a space in the community for people who are experiencing homelessness.
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At 80% of market rent youth are still excluded and a far deeper cut to
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market rent is required. Yes is committed to supporting people experiencing
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homelessness which means if this is supported today these units will go to
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individuals who are extremely vulnerable and experiencing homelessness right now
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in our community. The crisis that we currently have will only be solved
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who is safe, affordable housing, and safe, affordable housing that allows our most vulnerable
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to be housed within them, not excluding them.
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For the last 15 years, the community has only had seven youth transitional housing spaces
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at, yes, is current home for youth, which means that every single year hundreds of
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youth don't have that same opportunity.
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Our plan to triple our youth housing program is ambitious, but it's also realistic if
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we have all of the right people who are working together to do what is right
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so that youth in the community who desperately need a place to call home can have exactly that.
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So I hope that today you'll support that motion, and I'm happy to answer any questions that you
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might have. Thank you very much. I have Councillor Riel and a couple.
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Two are worshiped to Ms. Hanikam. Megan, as one of the signatures, 39 signatures of
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of the policy or the program to end homelessness
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in Peterborough County, how important is it
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for you to be a part of that group?
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And certainly what do you hope for the future of yes,
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I know you highlighted a bit here,
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but certainly what does it mean to you
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that what's happening right here with the bed allotment
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and certainly this money that you're going to use.
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So first off, you're being a part of the group
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to end homelessness by 2025.
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And secondly, the importance of the S Center
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certainly what this money means to you. So in terms of being part of the group I
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think it's extremely important and I think what that says about yes and that
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group in particular is that we are committed to doing whatever it takes
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to end homelessness and that often means some pretty creative solutions. It
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also means that we have a board of directors and a staff team who are
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dedicated to ending chronic homelessness. In terms of what I hope for for
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yes I hope that maybe we don't need an emergency shelter in a little while
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that would be pretty fantastic. Not because the emergency shelter isn't an appropriate emergency
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shelter but emergency shelter is a solution to homelessness. They're a band-aid solution similar
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to the emergency department at the hospital. So it would be lovely if we could either seriously
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downsize the emergency shelter or not need it at all but only if that means that all of the
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young people and families in this community are properly taken care of.
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First, which means building safe and affordable housing. And that's exactly what we want to do.
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Through our worship to Megan, can you talk a little bit about the triaging of people
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so that we actually knew who was chronically homeless and where we can put them
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and what bed allotments are available in our shelter systems?
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That's right. Do you want me to speak a little bit more about that?
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So I think that what something that's important in the community is that we understand exactly
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who is homeless and exactly what they need.
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And the system currently is using,
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it's called, the group is called Bill for Zero,
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it's a methodology that's been used across the country.
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It was actually the methodology used in medicine hat
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when they ended chronic homelessness.
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So we've been replicating that locally
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at something that's brand new
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and we're still kind of getting used
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to how exactly that works.
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And I think there's still some things to work out.
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But what it means is that when there's assets
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like the asset that I'm talking about tonight,
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it means that we would be taking people from that list
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to ensure that there's no kind of side door entrances and that the people who are most
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in need get access to the resources that we have rather than them being excluded.
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And ideally, it will lead to nobody being left behind.
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Very much, Megan.
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Thank you very much.
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I have Councilor Capo.
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Thank you.
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Through you, Chair.
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Hello, Ms. Hennigan.
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Thank you so much for being here tonight.
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This is great news and I have no doubt that it will pass tonight.
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I just had a couple of questions in regards to, so these 12 units are trying to
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homes, correct? That's right. Okay, could you speak a little bit as to what
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transitional homes means, how long can folks stay there for, and what sort of
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supports they can expect while there? Okay, so transitional housing differs a
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little bit from permanent housing. It's an exclusion from the Traditional
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Residential Tenancies Act, and it was changed in January of 2018. So what it
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means is that currently young people or anyone who's in transitional housing
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could be in that housing for up to three years. Transitional housing is not
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evidence-based approach for adults but is for young people because of their age
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and stage. Ideally they're going to be in transitional housing to acquire
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the skills and kind of period of growth that they need so that they can move
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forward into more traditional forms of housing in the community. In terms of
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the supports that we would be offering at this new place we
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would be providing daily support to the young people which includes case
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management. We often find that we compare it often to the support that
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parents are providing their young people and that we're supporting youth and
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making sure they're going to school, supporting them with whatever mental
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health supports they might need, really kind of normal things like cooking,
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cleaning, laundry going in when rooms are messy and supporting them and
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cleaning them up. And then also the one of the nicest parts about being a
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part of the young people's lives is getting to celebrate when they do
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things really well, which happens all the time. And so these staff members are
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also there when they, you know, ace a math test or finish a credit,
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graduate that kind of thing. We would also be using some of the units for a
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program that's currently run by Forecast. It's a youth supportive housing
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program. There's currently eight spots for youth who live in supportive housing
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in Peterborough, but those spots don't come with the physical housing, so it's
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only the supports, which is great. I shouldn't say only, that's a that's a
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huge feat as well. But the Forecast staff are tasked with trying to find
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housing for these young people and we're finding more and more often that
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landlords don't want to rent to people that young who don't have
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co-signers and some of the other things that Trent and Fleming students benefit from.
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And so we're finding currently that some of those eight youth are actually in the emergency
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shelter for long periods of time, even though they have that staff support.
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So some of these units would be designated for that as well.
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And those are the young people with the highest depth of need in our community.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Are there other questions for Megan?
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Seeing none, thank you very much.
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Up next we have Joanne Bayzak-Brocking speaking to the official plan update.
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I know there's some people in the overflow room and I think because there were more people here for the presentations before,
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if there are people in the overflow room I think there is some seating available in here now.
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Welcome Joanne.
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Mayor Terian, members of council, city staff, friends and neighbors, thank you for this opportunity.
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I will be speaking to report number 16, item number 9A, community input on the official
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review plan project update and presentation.
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And I should say my name is Joanne Bayzak-Brocking and I live at 1507 Ireland Drive.
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The official plan 2019 update is a comprehensive plan that sets the vision and direction that shapes the growth
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and development into 2041. It is recognized that the purpose of this report is to actually
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launch the latest draft and start the public consultation this summer, finalizing the plan
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sometime in the spring. I'm coming forward to tonight because this is too long. My focus
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is on a few of the affordable housing strategies and the need to step up the timeline for
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putting these strategies into place.
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This is because of my deep concern about the housing crisis
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and the impact this is having on friends, neighbors,
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and people that I work with.
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The closing of the warming room and the immediate growth
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of Tent City dramatically brought
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the underlying affordable housing and homelessness
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crisis to the forefront, into the consciousness of us all,
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forcing us to see the reality and impact on people's lives.
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Recently, Kathy Hartle, nurse practitioner at the 360 clinic, graphically compared homelessness
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and tent city to an iceberg.
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Tent city is only the tip of the iceberg slicing through the water.
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The enormous homelessness and larger housing crisis lie below the surface where there are
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40 people camped in Victoria Park, hundreds more are on the city's homelessness list,
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and hundreds and thousands more are struggling to pay their rent and keep food on the table.
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Recently at Confederation Park, people gathered to learn from each other
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and from the people living in Tent City about the crisis and how to take action.
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One man strolled into the center of the circle, loudly and clearly he asked,
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Do you want to know what the issue is?
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I'll tell you what it is.
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I can't find a place to live that I can afford.
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The official plan, I will now focus on two comprehensive strategies for consideration.
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One is that at least 10% of apartments in new buildings must be affordable.
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For example,
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in the past few months, watching the Peterborough Examiner closely, recent announcements
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of at least five large new developments were announced, condos or high-end apartments.
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What about new affordable renting housing developments?
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That is what we need.
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The second area is on ensuring that bylaws can permit innovative housing, tiny homes,
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co-housing and secondary suites, fast-tracking zoning bylaws.
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It will take
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time to change bylaws and it's wonderful that this is in the plan. Our appeal is
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that we fast-track the changing of those bylaws to allow those innovative new
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housing solutions.
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Finally while this is not in the official plan there is an
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immediate need for more investment in portable housing supplements.
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When it comes to housing first, when it comes from moving people from shelters and the street
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to a place to live, a portable rent supplement is an absolute necessity.
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The only way I have been able to enable anyone in the past year to move to affordable
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housing that they can afford with food, rent and other necessities is with a supplement.
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either provided by family, speaking with landlords,
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or through one of the few affordable rent or housing supplements.
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My purpose was to speak to the draft official plan
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and just highlight a few of the strategies that are in the plan
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for tackling the affordable housing crisis.
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As stated, there's an urgent need to speed up the timelines
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and implement some of those immediate solutions.
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That is fast-track the development of affordable housing to speed up the
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process for ensuring zoning bylaws can permit innovative housing solutions
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such as tiny homes, co-housing and secondary suites. And finally more
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portable rent supplements to enable people to achieve what they're really
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wanting and that is a place to call home. When you read the stories, when
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you hear when you listen to people, that is what they're saying.
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10th City is a catalyst for more action and for coming together.
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It is the tip of the iceberg of a much bigger issue that you as members of council and as
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all of us as members of this community need to work together.
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Our community is responding with compassion, with practical help, wisdom and determination
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to work together with people on both the immediate and the long-term solution.
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Maritarian and Council, your response to date has been absolutely outstanding.
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You are trying to look for those immediate needs such as water and porta-potties, etc., food,
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and also solutions that treat people with the dignity, respect, and the understanding that is needed.
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It is our appeal that you will continue the course and look at those solutions that we know work.
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The evidence is compelling and powerful. Everyone needs and wants a place to call home.
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Thank you, Joanne. As always, I have questions from Councillor Zipol.
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Through you, Madam Mayor and to Joanne, thank you so much for being here this evening.
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And this is for a point of clarification to help us better understand when you talk about
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the portable rent saps.
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And are you talking about folks are having difficulty achieving the 80% of market rent
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or are they needing the top up because there isn't enough affordable housing in the 80%
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of market and they top up to be at market value?
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you. Thank you, Councillor Nipol, for asking that question. No, it is much more fundamental
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than that. Housing first does not work without rents or housing supplements. Landlords cannot
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rent to people when their income is below what they can afford to secure housing.
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The rent supplement is the path that allows a person to secure the housing that they
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And that is why it is so critical. It is a fundamental piece of housing first.
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Also for people who are looking for housing right now, and this has been my experience.
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If you're, let's say, on ODSP, which is what most of the people I work with are,
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and you get $1,128 a month, and the rent, the most affordable rent
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that we can find right now is between $900 and $1,000.
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A landlord looks at the person I'm accompanying and says,
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rightly, you can't afford this, but you can't afford anything.
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And that is where the rent supplement helps close the gap
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between the high cost of housing and the incomes that people have.
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And that is absolutely critical.
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It is also important for preventing eviction.
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There are people who cannot afford to pay their rent and pay for food.
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We have, along with our housing crisis, a food crisis that go hand in hand.
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So to prevent eviction, people need these portable housing supplements or rent supplements.
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I don't know if that clarifies, but it is such a critical piece.
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And I know you've heard me talk about this over and over again.
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And I know that my main point was to look at the official plan.
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But it's part of the immediate solution with the housing crisis.
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We could put more money into, as an immediate solution for some of the folks,
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not all of them, that are in intensity who are so clearly saying,
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I need a place but I can't afford it like that man who just marched into the
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middle of the circle saying I can't find a place to live that I can afford
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that's the issue if he for instance had a rent supplement he would be more
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likely to be able to get a place and a landlord would be more willing that's
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the other point that I have found because then they know the person can
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afford to live there.
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Thank you Joanne that does clarify and it sounds to me like
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even at 80% of market value people are struggling to make rent. They are yeah
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that's true and that and that's what affordable is so we need more than one
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solution. Thank you for your question. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any other
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questions?
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Seeing none, thank you, Joanne, as always.
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Our last registered delegation is Richard Staples,
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and I understand that there's some pictures, so the clerk is just going to, it might just
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take a minute for him to get that technology up and running.
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Mayor and council, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Richard Wellesley Staples, 731
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River Road South, Peterborough, Ontario. I'm very honored to follow the two articulate
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charismatic women speakers that spoke about homelessness and affordable housing, because
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that's exactly what I want to talk to tonight.
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To suggest that the Megan Benicombe, if I pronounce her name correctly, that her project
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over three years is a prototype for this city to go forward and actually address this
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problem not just here in Peterborough but on a national basis. I'd also like to
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thank Council for their support of my presentation in May because the
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Trans-Several Waterway made adjustments to the working hours and for my talk
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tonight I'd like you to use the document that I passed out to the city
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clerk. I'd like to talk tonight about how this city could follow its
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Founder's code said Peter Robinson who nearly 200 years ago brought 2,000 people some of their and their youth here to
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Scott's mill still the name of the dam being constructed at lock 19
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These are Peter Bros origin so long ago
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Peter Robinson gave them not just emergency shelter
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He gave them a new life to end their suffering and distress
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His God-inspired works gave them back their dignity, humanity, and a peaceful place to hear the Holy Spirit to lead them on their way to renewed life in Canada.
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Ironically, the first two speakers spoke of how people today are in the same quotes, both 200 years later.
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Peter Robinson completed his God-given mission by getting his Irish immigrants rations for a year more. He assisted them in kindly ways.
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Some 200 years later the city of Peterborough and the youth emergency
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shelter of Peterborough incorporated will help these distressed youth start
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their lives anew again in the old Peterborough tradition founded by Peter
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Robinson. On the screen we can see the United Empire loyalists who were refugees
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from the United States or from the 13 colonies their own country.
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country. They were loyally strong, and that is still the Canadian way. It was set in place
[33:36]
long before Confederation. It will have spread our parliamentary system and English common
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law over the way this meeting is run tonight. They worked together to help each other survive
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in an arduous Canadian frontier unforgiving environment together. Together with suffering
[33:55]
the emergency have been driven out of their own country. As 1783 homeless, they were stripped
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of their citizenship in what now today in 2019 terms would be viewed as a war crime of ethnic
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cleansing. They had no choice but to leave stripped of all their property or killed if they did not
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give up their homes to vigilantes. There are sacred bones lying in Federation Park just
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across the street from the city hall. The intersection of King and George down George
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Street proclaims her arrival here homeless. My questions to the mayor and her
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councillor. First of all loyalist strong, Canadian strong, Danforth strong. What are
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the alternatives to being homeless in Canada? For as we can acknowledge for us
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in our kin there but for the grace of God go we. As we all know life is
[34:48]
uncertain. We can't predict our fate. Life's accidents or addictions, like opioids, can
[34:55]
be harsh and unforgiving. Mark 12 verses 30 to 31 tells us, Thou shalt love thy neighbor
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as thyself. How can we give our homeless neighbors a hand up versus a hand out to
[35:08]
enable them to restore with treatment of their own human dignities? All of us without
[35:13]
exception need to make our own way in our world in a peaceful way, and when strong
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help others who are wounded. Page 3, Strength to Help and Remain with the Wounded, is a Canadian
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value, timeless and ever-enduring. Danforth Strong, yesterday, or today, July 22, 2018.
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Yesterday, Padre Reverend Wendell Gibbs took Danforth Strong with his Toronto community on
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the first anniversary of a horrific loss of life and disruption of family life on the
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Danforth Avidary Canada. At the end of his God-given charismatic channeling of the Holy
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Spirit, he asked everyone to turn and embrace their neighbor and give them a hug. We need
[35:54]
a community hug for our homeless, simply but profoundly by giving them a home to call home
[36:00]
here in Old Peterborough, pioneered by the United Empire Loyalists, the homeless of
[36:05]
the American Revolution. It's our badge of honor to do so to love our neighbors.
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On the front cover here, you have the 1055 Thurl model from Vancouver, which I presented
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to Council in January.
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I have not received any direct feedback about this model, but it accommodated some 165
[36:31]
affordable units or market value units and 47 affordable units as an integral development
[36:38]
of this condo.
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Within my seven minutes here I'll move right along.
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Tonight's Emergency Youth Shelter Approach is a step forward. How could it be
[36:59]
widened across the city or indeed, how could this model of 1,055 Thurlow Central
[37:05]
Presbyterian Church be applied here in the city as one of the Vancouver's that
[37:09]
has been so very successfully? What indeed does Council think of that
[37:13]
proposal. What is the Mayor and Council's holistic approach to the homelessness crisis,
[37:19]
which really is a coast-to-coast-to-coast crisis in Canada? What part of any will the Mayor
[37:25]
and her Council play during the forthcoming federal election as to taking a widespread
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collegial versus partisan approach to negotiating with all parties and their leaders in election
[37:36]
candidates as to getting prior commitments for a substantive action on the Canadian
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homeless file once they assume their elected office or form the next majority or minority
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federal government.
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How well does the mariner council understand exactly how the parts of these same Canadian
[37:54]
homeless file complex societal issues interconnect?
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How well does council appreciate that they may either be partly or fully explicable only
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by reference to their whole interrelated structuring?
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If you look on the back page of this report, it shows East Hastings in Vancouver, and I'm
[38:12]
going to read into the record of what it says about that, but it could equally be said about
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Peterborough, or all the communities across Canada that have thousands or tens of thousands
[38:23]
of homeless people, yet giving up on downtown Eastside or Victoria Park or underneath the
[38:32]
Gardner Expressway in Toronto or desolation camp on Enimal would be an awful mistake.
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All of the failures of this fortunate thriving caring country are on display on these streets
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or across from City Hall here or on the front lawn of City Hall.
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It's a failure to grapple with the crisis of mental health.
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It's a failure to tame the epidemic of drug overdoses.
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It's a failure to improve the condition of many Indigenous people.
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It's a failure to put a roof over the heads of its neediest citizens,
[39:08]
like the man that walked to the center of the circle and said,
[39:13]
I can't afford my accommodation.
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Thank you, Richard. I'm going to get you just to wrap up
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because you're out here seven minutes.
[39:20]
Okay. Well, I'll wrap up by saying I'd like the council to give me answers
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together with the community to the ones I posed here most especially as to what
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lands the city has now that are either surplus or unused to build affordable
[39:40]
housing on in concert with the federal provincial governments.
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Thank you very
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much we're having a meeting tomorrow to discuss that that very issue so
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certainly we'll be reporting back at the outcomes of that meeting. Are there
[39:55]
questions for Richard seeing none thank you very much. So that's the end of the
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registered delegations so now we'll move on to unregistered delegations speaking
[40:10]
to items on this agenda and just yeah I see Rodney just gonna show a hands and
[40:17]
just to be clear if we're talking about housing the yes the yes shelter
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transitional funding is the only real piece on this agenda we had a special
[40:28]
Council meeting last week and we will be having a community meeting coming up
[40:32]
which will give you more details about but just they do need to be confined to
[40:35]
what's on this agenda for the last two cycles of general committee. So I see a
[40:41]
few hands I know Rodney you were sort of up first so we'll go Rodney and then I
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see you Roy.
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Let's get everybody's names and address for the record. Good
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evening Rodney I live at 421 Sheridan Street, Peterborough. I'd like to say
[41:00]
that I'm thankful that the church has offered the people that are homeless
[41:05]
offering them to be at their on the church property. Even though I
[41:11]
live at the same building, I don't live at the same side as the homeless
[41:14]
people are. I'm fortunately facing towards Z-City and currently I have
[41:21]
contacted the police several times about noise complaints after hours and
[41:25]
And I would like to know since Mr. Chief Gilbert is here, thanks for the badges a while ago.
[41:33]
And I would like to find out if there's a noise bylaw 24-7 or just from 11 o'clock until 7 or 6 in the morning.
[41:41]
There's been fights going on for the past several days outside of our building and I find it really unbelievable.
[41:48]
We have senior citizens there every day and I was asked to sign a complaint with the tenants
[41:56]
and I've currently refused to because I didn't know what was going on and I didn't look towards
[42:01]
that side of the city, of the church.
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So there's been constant fights going on around there, noise complaints.
[42:08]
I saw my superintendent was in the video.
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I'm not sure who did the video but I told him that he did a nice job and we need
[42:16]
to be monitored during the cameras in that area more often because there's fights every
[42:22]
day after six o'clock or seven o'clock on our building and one guy there literally went
[42:30]
on our property yesterday and tried stealing cigarette butts out of their cans and then
[42:34]
stealing some other stuff off the property going into the garage this night and I said
[42:39]
to him, I said, this is private property, can't be the same around like this tonight.
[42:43]
So anyhow, the cop showed up and then one police officer, I'm not sure who it was, but I told him that he couldn't be hanged around here and he was arguing and fighting.
[42:53]
And I don't know if it's his girlfriend or whatever, but it's just going on and on every day after six o'clock, after closing of the one roof.
[43:02]
So we can certainly follow up with the police about what's going on there?
[43:05]
I would like to know if there's a noise by-law at 24-7 or if it's only from 11 o'clock till…
[43:08]
We do have a 24-7 noise by-law, yes.
[43:10]
It's been going on for a couple of days and I have been trying to get a hold of the proper people as well to find out what the thing is.
[43:17]
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Roy, I saw that you had your hand up and there was a couple others to speak to items on the agenda.
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You have four minutes.
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Okay.
[43:33]
Thank you very much.
[43:34]
Roy Brady from Wear Street here in Peterborough.
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I'm speaking on the official planned draft that you have received.
[43:41]
You know, it's a large effort.
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It's quite lengthy.
[43:43]
It does lack specifics.
[43:46]
But housing for the lowest income people,
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which is the current issue in need besides the opioid crisis in this community,
[43:54]
has been neglected totally.
[43:56]
And this is quite bothersome to a lot of people.
[44:00]
There are some diverse recommendations for housing.
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Affordable housing is referred to in a few occasions.
[44:06]
No particular definition.
[44:08]
Affordable for whom.
[44:10]
It seems like it's directed to the other socioeconomic classes than the one that I'm concerned about tonight.
[44:17]
Although there was a reference to lower-income seniors, but just that one reference.
[44:22]
There are some applicable references, though, that you might be able to use, counselors.
[44:27]
One is smaller dwelling units.
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So you develop that.
[44:31]
Another is special needs housing.
[44:34]
You develop that.
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It's not clear in the plan at all.
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These are scant, they're undefined, and it's almost as if they don't matter that much.
[44:42]
That is my distinct impression from going through this fairly quickly.
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Yet, there was one reference which concerned me.
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It said, conversion of rental housing into condos.
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Is that crucial?
[44:55]
Anyway, tiny homes.
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You've had that come at you.
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Staff and council for the last couple of years, there are people behind me who have actually
[45:04]
brought this concept to you. I couldn't locate that going through the applicable parts in the
[45:10]
official plan. It certainly is important enough to be put in. It's almost, it's just missing.
[45:19]
So all we got actually in there that might apply to it is undefined zoning flexibility.
[45:25]
Now, I applaud that, if we just find out what that is.
[45:29]
So you can work on that one too, Council.
[45:32]
The staff prepares this plan.
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It's what they're expected to do, it's what they're hired to do.
[45:39]
It is the City Council who decides what's going to happen, and I'm imploring that you
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do that.
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The responsibility is with you, and it's with you right now.
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You do not wait until January and February when the plan is finally voted on.
[45:52]
You have to do it now.
[45:53]
The council has to take the leadership here.
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Most of you, if not all of you, were enthusiastically elected eight months ago.
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The staff, not elected, but they've done a job for you. It's up to you right now.
[46:10]
There's a severe housing need for the lowest income people in our community,
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and it's been neglected up to this moment in the official plan.
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So this has to be the city's top priority to do something about that in action, but also in the plan.
[46:28]
The action is now, the plan is over a few more months.
[46:32]
So in conclusion, it's up to city council, the people in front of me, to lead and provide the housing, the necessary housing that this community needs.
[46:41]
The tents you see out there, they are a message to you.
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They are a message that you have to lead and provide,
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and I'm counting on you to do that.
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And the community behind me and out in the streets,
[46:56]
out in the neighborhoods is waiting to help you.
[46:59]
Please go for it. Thank you.
[47:03]
Thank you very much, Troy.
[47:05]
Are there questions for the presenter?
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And just so you know, there is also, again,
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And this is a draft official plan so certainly we're taking that feedback and there is also
[47:15]
on the website a link that people can email in suggestions so we're happy to take as much
[47:21]
input as people have to give because certainly these are pressing issues and I appreciate
[47:24]
you sharing that.
[47:25]
I would say though there have been suggestions coming to the city for years so we've got
[47:31]
to move.
[47:32]
Yeah.
[47:32]
We've got to move.
[47:33]
Thank you.
[47:34]
Thank you Roy.
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Okay, I see some hands. Maybe we'll start with Gord over there and sort of I think the easiest way might just be to sort of zigzag from the front to the back if that's okay with people.
[47:53]
Thank you, Worship and council members and staff. My name is Gordon Halsey. I live at 561 Elmer Street North and I've been a resident here in Peterborough for about five and a half years.
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I just want to first of all quote somebody as far back as Aristotle and many have said
[48:10]
since that it is a measure of a society the way in which they treat their most vulnerable.
[48:17]
And certainly when it comes to housing and definitely what the shelter is doing and
[48:24]
others are doing for homelessness I think reflects well on what Peterborough is doing
[48:28]
in that regard.
[48:29]
Being an engineer, I just want to share with you a few statistics that I've pulled off the internet just today in preparation for this meeting.
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First of all, while it has been said here more than once that affordable housing is 80% of market value, that's not the official definition.
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The CMHC defines affordable housing as no more than 30% of the income, pre-tax income, of an individual or of a household.
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So we've been taking the wrong tack if we use that 80% mark.
[49:04]
For one reason, just looking at the numbers over the last year, the average price of rental housing in Peterborough has gone up 7%.
[49:15]
certainly the income of people has not gone up by 7% over the last year.
[49:20]
Secondly, just looking at the numbers that have been posed in terms of the average price of rental housing,
[49:26]
a one-bedroom house according to statistics on average in Peterborough is $916 or was a year ago.
[49:34]
But when you look at the available housing, what's available right now,
[49:39]
Now I looked at three different sites, I looked at about 58 different references.
[49:44]
The average house price or rather rental is over $1100, not $960 as is stated is the average
[49:53]
price of a rental for one bedroom here in Peterborough.
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That's a difference of about 27%.
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So unless as we look at affordable housing we use the official definition based on
[50:05]
on what people can afford, not what the rental property market value is, then we're missing
[50:11]
the whole point about helping those that are most in need of the support of the city of
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Peterborough.
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The last statistic I want to share with you is, again, I looked on Kijiji just about
[50:29]
about an hour and a half ago, 18, the first 18 listings I saw with regard to
[50:34]
rental rooms, not a one-bedroom apartment, just a room for rent and a
[50:38]
rooming house, the average price is over $600. And at 30%, that would mean
[50:44]
someone would have to make over $24,000 a year to afford a single room in
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Peterborough. That's more than twice of what someone makes an ODSP or gets
[50:56]
as a supplement in ODSP. So again affordable housing has not got nothing to
[51:02]
do with market value it's got to do everything to do with what an individual
[51:06]
can afford to pay and the official line is 30% of their value of the
[51:12]
of what they make and the the last statistic is in 2016 the last numbers
[51:18]
I could find based from 2012 to 2016 a number of people who are in Peterborough
[51:25]
Or having to pay rent above that 30% went from 48% of the total rental population to 52.5%.
[51:33]
And that was three years ago.
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Where is it now?
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Who knows.
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But probably, as rates have continued to go up, it's going to be a lot greater than
[51:41]
that.
[51:42]
So anyway, just wanted to provide some statistics that base on which we're talking about
[51:47]
affordable housing and what that really means.
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because even 24,000 is well beyond the capacity of the people on ODSP to be able to afford even a room and a rental in a rooming house.
[52:02]
Thank you.
[52:02]
Thank you, Lord.
[52:03]
Are there questions of the presenter?
[52:06]
Seeing none, thank you.
[52:07]
Thank you.
[52:09]
Madam Mayor, on a point of order, could we have the speakers please tell us the point at which they're speaking on the agenda so that we know that we can follow along with the reports and so forth?
[52:18]
Sure. And so again, we need people to be speaking to items that are on the agenda from the last cycle of general committee.
[52:26]
And so if you can make that point, the agenda was available to everybody at the coming into the room.
[52:35]
Jim?
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Thank you Madam Mayor and Council.
[52:47]
The concerns raised by the homeless as evidenced by the Ten City here has been a rude awakening for a lot of people.
[52:58]
I recently moved into the city from up on the lake area
[53:03]
Took me five hours to sell a place up there. Jim. We just need to know which item on the agenda
[53:09]
You're getting what it is. My glasses are not working, but it's on the housing thing and your address has been speaking, okay?
[53:17]
again
[53:18]
It was a rude shock to find out of the scarcity of
[53:23]
housing in Peterborough
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even for people like myself that have a reasonable pension and money to buy a
[53:32]
house. And so I started exploring if we couldn't buy a place, find a place, where
[53:40]
could we rent?
[53:43]
Peterberg doesn't have it. Now I understand the questions that are
[53:48]
the matters to be dealing with on given shelter to the people in the park and
[53:52]
and all of these other concerns, and a command council and all those that have been active in providing that assistance.
[54:02]
My concern is, what are we building for the future?
[54:07]
And I've harkened back to my experience in the 70s when I worked for the Toronto Labor Council
[54:13]
in the metropolitan Toronto, we built a massive amount of non-profit cooperative housing.
[54:23]
That housing is there now, of course the waiting list is gone.
[54:29]
The federal government was a little more generous in those days, but the reason it
[54:35]
got started was that Council of the City of Toronto gave the go ahead, the support, the
[54:47]
backing and encouragement to start this effort.
[54:52]
Now, for the last several days I've met a bit of a pest of myself, bugging the mayor and
[54:58]
other people, how do we get something started on this nature here in Peterborough?
[55:04]
Because we will get these people into shelters that need them, somehow or other.
[55:10]
But going down the road with the pressures on the housing in Peeber here,
[55:17]
there will be nothing available for people like myself
[55:21]
and people working in their community that may think they're drawn a decent wage
[55:29]
until they go out and try to buy a house they're working at.
[55:34]
Now, cooperative non-profit housing is only one of the avenues.
[55:39]
We need specialized housing for all these other needs.
[55:42]
But this is something I've learned from experience.
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You build non-profit cooperative housing, it's there.
[55:50]
Housing that I worked on in the early 70s in Toronto is there.
[55:57]
market value doesn't mean a thing. Those costs have increased somewhat to keep these buildings
[56:07]
in place such as they upkeep and what have you, but they haven't escalated the way the
[56:14]
normal free market housing has increased.
[56:19]
Jim, I'm just going to need you to wrap up because you're at your time.
[56:22]
Oh, I could talk all day about that.
[56:25]
What I'm asking the council is somehow or other,
[56:30]
plug me in and others that want to do the sort of thing,
[56:34]
whether it's a special housing committee or what have you.
[56:39]
There is help out there to build for the future.
[56:42]
Try it on some of us.
[56:44]
Some of us still have a little bit of time left here and there to do things.
[56:47]
Thank you very much.
[56:48]
I appreciate that, Jim, and we'll be making a call out for that in the next couple days,
[56:52]
so we'll certainly loop you in.
[56:53]
You've got my number.
[56:54]
Thank you.
[56:54]
I do.
[56:58]
Thank you.
[56:59]
Thank you, Jim.
[57:01]
All right.
[57:01]
Other delegates that want to speak, just let us know what agenda item you're speaking
[57:06]
to, and if we can get your name and address for the record.
[57:08]
And you have four minutes.
[57:10]
I'm here to speak on housing, and my name is Lynn Hopkins, and I live at 333
[57:18]
Hedonix Road.
[57:21]
We've been here before. I just want to make sure everybody on
[57:25]
council knows that. We did this in 1986 as a result. I ran on that platform
[57:32]
affordable housing and I knew from my uncle Ray Peters, who was famous for all
[57:39]
the good he did for Peterborough over a period of 30 some years, and he was the
[57:47]
First, to tell me that if I got anything done during what I was on council had to be affordable housing because he was seeing people living in dreadful conditions and unable to get any better.
[58:02]
So the churches were very helpful.
[58:05]
Now the church's population is so diminished that they can't put forth the effort that they did at that time.
[58:12]
We also got help from unusual cases.
[58:16]
The biggest help we got was 100 units from senior Mr. Smith of Aion.
[58:23]
He cornered me at a housing meeting when we were at it in Toronto,
[58:28]
and said, I'll give 20 years of geared-to-income housing,
[58:34]
and it's the one that's down off.
[58:36]
good fellow that you can see from Fonsella looking down the storm away.
[58:43]
And he gave it.
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He just charged them the percentage that they were allowed to charge for housing.
[58:53]
So some landlords might do some units, they wouldn't do 100, but they gave us 100.
[58:58]
That was a wonderful help.
[59:00]
The YWCA did the one on Chamon Road up by Canadian Tire.
[59:04]
and there were many others like it added up to 500 units so it was really a
[59:10]
strong effort and I have to tell you that Dr. Elden Ray was a big help and
[59:18]
John Wood did a masterful job of his share of the work. We all did our share
[59:24]
we're so proud of ourselves that we got 500 units and you can do it too just
[59:30]
Just keep your mind on it and just go straight ahead.
[59:34]
I'm sure you all have put in a lot of time because when you've got the visual of the
[59:39]
tents in the park, it's a great impetus to you and I congratulate you on what you've
[59:45]
done so far and hope you carry on and don't, Mr. Smith, Mr. Wright, get any idea about
[59:52]
kicking kids, young people and others out of the park because I would be very annoyed
[59:58]
I'm going to try to hear.
[1:00:00]
Take that pattern. I actually thought you'd be good on council. Anyhow, thank you very much.
[1:00:06]
Thank you, Lynn.
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So according to our procedural bylaw, we're at the, we have 20 minutes allocated
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for unregistered delegations. We need to have a motion to extend that, uh, main by Councillor
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Baldwin. Seconded by Councillor Wright. All those in favor? That carries. Okay. I know
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that there's been some hands at the back. I see you at the far back, yeah. Yeah, I see
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you too. And Candice, I see you as well, so maybe we'll go to the back for a little bit
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and try to move forward. There were other people that had their hands up prior.
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Hello. My name's Karim Maynard. I'm at 387 Wellington Street.
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Pardon me. I'm speaking
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on housing or I guess more funding for housing because obviously housing people
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is going to cost money. I've been in Peterborough for 34 years. I'm a
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cosmetologist at Duharen Aesthetics and have been working the last two and a
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via my trade. I think the beauty industry is ripe for a transformation. And if we want
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to make a more beautiful community, I think it's a very good idea to start with the beauty
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industry in that spa industry is very, very profitable. Most of the time, the profits
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let's go into pockets and not projects.
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So my proposition is,
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and I have had a, I don't wanna speak to prematurely,
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but I have had a fruitful series of communication
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with Christian Harvey and he's agreed
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to help promote this fundraiser
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We're 100% of the proceeds of the donations that come in in exchange for haircuts.
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We'll be going to the warming room for a month, and then we're going to commence six months to a year trial,
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where my intention is to put 50% of the revenues towards a housing fund.
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And we're calling the project our place, which is what Carol Winters wanted to call it.
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Something along the same lines as the working center and Kitchener, but centered.
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They really made good headway once they were able to purchase a building because once
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they were able to purchase a building, they could purchase more buildings.
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The more buildings are purchased, the more people are housed.
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And while my license is expired, it's $400 and I'll get it back like that.
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I also intend to train people so that people like myself, I'm an ODSP recipient.
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I operate just as a hobby right now.
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And I pay $1,200 a month rent, and of course on ODSP I only get 1,128, so I have housemates who would have also been homeless.
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I was almost homeless. Long story won't get into here, but I was able to stay where I was by taking on others.
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and I think it works well. It's a very healing space. We have gardens. I can see
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replicating that on a larger scale with a larger building and you know. Anyway, so
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there are creative solutions and there are folks that are wanting very much to
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beautify the city that have seen some of the very ugly sides of other human
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condition. I have a lot of lived experience and that is my offer and
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there's other community groups that I will be approaching but I just wanted
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to let you know that there are people that are willing to help fund it so
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that doesn't go all on the taxpayer. People will always get their hair done.
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People will always get the hair done and I like the kind of I like the idea of
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attracting people's minds to the cause using the beauty industry you know
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because beauty isn't what we look like it's how we are to each other. Thank
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Thank you very much. Any questions? Seeing none, there's a few more hands in the audience.
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Candice, I saw you.
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Just get you to come up and you have four minutes to speak to an agenda item.
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Thank you so much, Mayor Tarian, councillors, neighbours and friends here.
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My name is Candice Shaw. I live at 571 Stewart Street here in the city.
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I am speaking to the issue of housing.
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I wanted to encourage council as have previous deputants to step up any planning for affordable
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housing in the city to look carefully at the bylaws and to step up the adjustments of bylaws
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in order to make them more flexible so that we can move forward with more housing options
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in the city as previous deputants have said.
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I also wanted to speak to tent city.
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The answer to the issue of people living in tents in our community is individual.
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It is not something that's going to be a one-size-fits-all approach.
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And I urge council to continue in the vein that you have been operating in,
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in the vein of courage and compassion and respect and dignity for each person
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and their individual needs in tent city.
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I'd also like to ask that there be more done, I know you've done quite a bit,
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but that there be more done to communicate specifically with the people living in Intent City.
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The folks over there, they may seem like strangers, but they are community members.
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They are our brothers and our sisters in this community and it behooves us to treat them with the kind of compassion
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we would treat our brothers and sisters if they fell on hard times.
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It's very, very important to me that we make sure to communicate with those people in the tents
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in the same way we would communicate to any citizens in the city and that we
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strive to not levy fines or sudden evictions. In many cities in in Canada
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there have been you know late night evictions or sudden disruptions to
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this kind of tent city. What that does is disperse residents of the tent city or
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something similar into places where it's much more difficult for services
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to reach them, for people to help them and work with them to make sure that they
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are housing secure instead of housing insecure or homeless and it's very
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important that we as a community step up and and call for that kind of response
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and a response of courage compassion and dignity to the people living in tent
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city and to anyone homeless or housing insecure in our city because the
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people in that tent city of course are just as many have mentioned the tip
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of the iceberg. There are many more people living in conditions that are terrible and
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that can't manage to reach beyond the current needs and their current situation. And it's
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our responsibility as members of this community and your responsibility as counselors to make
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sure that they're what respected and represented in the same way that any citizen is. Thank
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you very much.
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Thank you, Candice.
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Are there any questions?
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Seeing none.
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Thank you.
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All right. Other hands?
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Come on up.
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You have four minutes.
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Hi, I'm Dawn Robinson.
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I'm one of those homeless people that
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I'm not, although I'm not in
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city, I am at the block mission.
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It is very
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unproper conditions there.
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We have no hot water for showers.
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They print off maybe three sheets of the housing list every day that they print them off, not all 12 like they're supposed to.
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Me and two friends are trying to find a place. We can afford up to 1,800 a month between the three of us.
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It's very difficult because the people at the block are not doing anything to help us find housing.
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I have brought up time and time again even at the last meeting here. I brought up the fact that we need more
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Low-income housing and we need either the
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Desoning laws changed or either change the zoning laws so that we can do tiny hopes
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And it would very much help the homeless problem. I mean
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Anywhere else that they're doing they've been doing it in Alberta and everywhere like even Hamilton. They're doing tiny homes
[1:10:04]
And they have had a complete success rate with people freaking, with people ending up
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stably housed because they look forward to owning that home.
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Okay?
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Like, do something to help us.
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Don't just treat us like we're not there.
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That's what I find is happening half the time.
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We're getting treated like we're not even there.
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And it's not right.
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We're people too.
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We deserve respect. We deserve proper safe housing where we can be safe.
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Every other place that I can afford has been nothing but me get run out of my home
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so it can be a crack house or some place where gangsters sell drugs.
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And I myself am quite tired of it. I've been on the low-income housing list since I was 16
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years old and still haven't been put in a place. I'm 35 now.
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How is that fair?
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How is that fair
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that only people that are rich can afford somewhere safe to live?
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That's all I have to say.
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Thank you. We've heard issues with the Brock and need to follow up. We've been following up to
[1:11:38]
try to figure out what's going on in terms of the water, but the housing list we didn't know
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We'll follow up about the housing list. If they're not printing the whole thing off, that's not acceptable.
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Thank you. Are there other unregistered delegations I see? Yes, sir. In the blue, I've seen you have your hand up.
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Yes, Madam Mayor and member of councils. My name is Brian Stanton. I live at 705 Water Street.
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My reason for being here tonight was just basically to inquire about the purchase of 709 Water Street,
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which I just found out about by reading Peterborough this week.
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Anyways, I just had a letter from the city maybe two or three weeks ago stating that my house is on the heritage designation list.
[1:12:48]
anyways, I was quite pleased to receive that letter. My reason for being here was
[1:12:55]
just more to find out what is going to happen to 709 Water Street. I try to keep
[1:13:02]
my property nice and neat. I know the previous owners of 709 Water Street
[1:13:07]
they've done as good as they can do with that property and now because
[1:13:15]
that's being sold. I just wondered what impact that might have on my property. I'm not against
[1:13:24]
the yes shelter people or anything like that. I'm just trying to get some information as to what
[1:13:30]
might happen.
[1:13:34]
Yeah absolutely. I can't answer that right now but a staff might be able to follow
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up with you and they're nodding their heads so I think that that might be a good connection.
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Okay. So I just contract to you, Sandra. Okay. All right. Thank you very much then. Thanks for your time.
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Thank you.
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Okay. So we're at the 32 minute mark of unregistered delegations, which means we would need another motion to extend the hour, extend the time, moved by Councillor Wright, seconded by Councillor Acapo.
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And we need two thirds. So all those in favor?
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Okay. I do not. Can you do the counting?
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Do we
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get a sense of how many people in the room are still hoping to come up and speak
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to us?
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Is there anyone?
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Okay.
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Then never mind, never mind.
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Thank you everybody for sharing those thoughts today, this important conversation that we
[1:14:40]
will continue to have.
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So moving along to Mr. Clerk.
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Your Worship, I have Councillor Beamer with General Committee Report Number 15.
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Thank you, Worship.
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removed by myself second my Councilor Bowden that report number 15 of the
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general committee meeting of July 2nd 2019 be approved
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Thank you. Okay. Councillor Crap has a pecuniary on number on item 8. Councillor Pernell. So people
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speaking to items on that Councillor Pernell to number 5. Councillor Riel to other speakers
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to items on that report.
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Seeing none, Councillor Pernell.
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Thank you, Mayor. So I just had a couple of amendments to add to Report 5. There's an A, B,
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and C to it. It's on Page 26 of your agenda package, Page 3 of the General Committee Report 15.
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So this just follows up on some questions that we had concerning some of the addresses on the
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the new suggested heritage registry list and so Councillor Pappas and I had
[1:15:56]
noted that there was a number of addresses on all of in Rink Street that
[1:16:00]
we believed had already been rezoned for redevelopment and so we do have a
[1:16:05]
comprehensive list so I'd like to enter those addresses into the record plus
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C. We did find one other property outside of the downtown core that
[1:16:16]
actually has a permit on it so it is not, we can't put it on the Heritage
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Registry list. So I have given a copy of the amendment to the clerk and so
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basically A is pretty much, I don't have to find it myself now. So A is that the
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recommendation of the Pira Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee PAC
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To add the properties included in Appendix A, I'd like to add less items listed below in B and C of this report to the City's Register of Heritage properties as being of cultural heritage value or interest be approved.
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And then we had added July 2nd that the properties in the area of Olive Avenue, Ring Street and Perry Street, which are part of the Ashburn and Realty Development be removed from the heritage properties.
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the listing of heritage properties, adding these addresses are, and we have 59, 61, 63
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olive, 193, 195, 197, 199, 201, 203 Ring Street. That's B. And then C. That staff report to
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Council on any properties on proposed lists that have undergone a rezoning and or official
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plan amendment and then I'm adding and that being done that 727 Lansdowne Street West be
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removed from the list.
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Okay thank you. Just need a seconder for that. Councillor Clark. Are there any comments
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or questions? Seeing none.
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Just housekeeping.
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They were provided by Mrs. Fletcher.
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Through you, Madam Mayor, I recirculated my previous e-mail and Councillor Pernell has read off the correct addresses.
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Thank you.
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All good?
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Councillor Belvin?
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Yes, through you, Your Worship.
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Why are we excluding those properties?
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It's not 100% clear.
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They have already been, they're already part of an application and a rezoning for redevelopment.
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So they they don't belong on the heritage registry there. They are going to be coming down eventually for redevelopment
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That's already that's something that's already in the works
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Thank you for the clarification
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Perfect, okay. Are there any other comments or questions to number five it's been moved in second to all in favor
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That carries
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Councillor Purnett, did you have other items? Just that one. Okay, perfect.
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So, Councillor Riegel to item six. Through a worship to Ms. Clancy, this
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process here, why did it not go out to RFP?
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Through you,
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your worship. I'm sorry, I
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was distracted by answering something. I have that effect on people.
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So, through
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We do have wording in our procedural bylaw that allows us to do that for programs with social services, service providers.
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And it was under that context.
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To his worship, I'd like to add a seed to that that the city look into an RFP process for this service and like to speak to that.
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A number of years ago, we had some businesses.
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one was out at Nassau which was a small business that had hamburgs another one
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was a small business that we had a chip truck at Beaver Mead Park and second
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or sorry before you carry on so he's asking to for staff to look into an RFP
[1:20:45]
process going forward yes at the end of this yes at the end of this year I'm
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not supersede this year I want them to look at an RFP process at the end of
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this year for this service.
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Okay.
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Is there a seconder?
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Councillor Papas?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Got that?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Before the contract, I want to know what process they have.
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And the reasons being, like I was saying, we had two businesses that went up for
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RFP and they was, those businesses are now defunct and certainly somebody took
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over and not saying that it isn't a good business. We both have businesses that are now at Nassau
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and one at Beavermeade. And certainly we have another one. I guess the one would be at Millennium
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Park. There's a business there and all these things to be looked at. We looked at the
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Memorial Center when that business come up. And certainly I think this here behooves
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us to do the same thing that wins a business like this here and certainly comes up if there's
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somebody else that's interested in the community of providing this service and therefore then
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I think that they should come back to council and look at the RFP process and this is
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just one of them.
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Thank you.
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So I have speakers to that.
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I have Councillor Capo.
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Thank you.
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Can I ask my fellow councillor a question?
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Is that allowed?
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Yes?
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Okay.
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So through you to councillor, I just want to make sure I understand your amendment.
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You are asking that prior to the extension being given that you're asking an RFP process
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or you are okay with this being extended for a year and prior to that further extension
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an RFP process. I'm fine with the extension okay but I want the staff to
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come back with an RFP process so the way that the way that it raises that staff
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report back on an RFP process prior to the expiration of the contract
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extension. Okay thank you. Is that okay? Are there any other questions or
[1:23:21]
comments? Seeing none all those in favor that carries thank you. Are there
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There are other speakers to items on general committee report number 15,
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seeing none.
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Oh, sorry, number eight, we're separating out because Councillor Pappas has a conflict,
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so all those in favor of number eight, thank you.
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And then the balance of the report, all those in favor, thank you.
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Your Worship, it's moved by Councillor Rial and seconded by Councillor Wright, that report
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Report number 16 of the general community meeting of July 8, 2019 be approved.
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Thank you.
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Are there speakers to that, Councillor Pernell, which?
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Just item 10, Mayor.
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Yep.
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Are there other speakers to items on that report?
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Seeing none.
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Councillor Pernell.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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I just wanted to point out a couple of items related to 52540 Brailey and removing
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the H symbol just so that we all have the same information.
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The neighbors to this property, a couple of them had called and they just wanted reassurance
[1:24:45]
that there was not going to be an exit onto Forte and that is correct.
[1:24:50]
As per the plan, the one exit is out onto Brailey so they were quite happy with the plan.
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So I'm sharing that with my colleagues.
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And the other is that there was a bit of a typo.
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It is not 28 units.
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They go up to number 28 but it's actually 14 units
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and that had raised some concern.
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Some of you may have received the email,
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but it is in fact only 14 units,
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which is what was agreed to.
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So again, the neighbors who had that concern
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are now satisfied that it is only 14 units.
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So I'm quite happy to support removing the age symbol.
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Thank you very much.
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Other speakers to that?
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Seeing none, all those in favor?
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That carries.
[1:25:34]
Thank you very much.
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And seeing no speakers to the balance of the reports, all those in favor?
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That carries. Thank you.
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Mr. Clerk.
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Hi, Your Worship. It's moved by Councillor Wright, seconded by Councillor Rial,
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seconded by Councillor Wright at the following report number 17,
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General Committee of July 22nd be approved.
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Thank you.
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Oh, you have a hand.
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Okay, so the clerk will just pass out the report for everyone.
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Is there anyone wishing to speak to that?
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Councillor Cappell.
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Thank you.
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And this is a question to staff.
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And I, this is not the best time to ask.
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Let me know.
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Thank you.
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And so this is through you to Ms. Morgan Quinn.
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Did I get that right?
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Or is it Quinn Morgan?
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Okay.
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So I noticed that in,
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so I'm speaking to item three,
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sorry, transitional housing for a yes shelter. I noticed that in the report that the city
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has designated the space as a municipal housing,
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what does the F stand for? I forgot. Facility.
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Thank you. So my question is not so much related to the yes shelter itself, but in general
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Is it feasible to temporarily designate a space as a municipal housing facility?
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Through your worship, sorry.
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It's not ordinarily something we've done.
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We ordinarily designate something for a period of five to ten years.
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and more often longer our municipal housing facilities agreements usually are the lower
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limit that we do for housing is 20 years which is the requirement when we're putting federal
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and provincial funding into a project and we have had longer agreements. I know that it's
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It's how we are able to provide the tax incentive in return for a community benefit.
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So I'm not an expert on the Minus Black, but that's how we use it in housing.
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Mr. Potts is nodding his head, so I think you got it right.
[1:28:17]
Thank you.
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That's good.
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Are there other comments or questions about that report?
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Seeing none.
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All those in favor?
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That carries. Thank you.
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So there is a notice of motion that was moved by
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Councillor Riel. Did you want to read it or would you like the clerk to read it
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out?
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Go ahead. Your Worship it's moved by Councillor Riel seconded by Councillor
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Zippel whereas the Peterborough Region ranks third among Ontario
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municipalities for the rate per 100,000 for opioid emergency department
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visits whereas there have been 19 suspected opioid related overdose
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deaths in Peterborough City and County in the first six months of 2019 and whereas
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supervised consumption sites save lives therefore be resolved that the City of
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Peterborough supports in principle the submission of applications to the
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province and federal government for authorization and funding for the
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operation of a supervised consumption site under the provincial government's
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consumption and treatment services model that provides integrated wraparound
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services that connect clients, use drugs to primary care, treatment and other health
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and social services.
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Thank you very much.
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And as you know, we've been working with MPP Smith and a variety of community partners
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to move forward this application for a CTS in Peterborough and this is procedural
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to help push that application along.
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So we appreciate that being added on to
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To get the notice of motion through before this council cycle is up.
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Are there any speakers to that? Any questions?
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Seeing none, all in favor?
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That carries, thank you.
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Your worship, it's moved by Councilor Rial, seconded by Councilor Wright, that the following
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bylaws be read at first, second, and third time.
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Bylaw 19-065 through 2 and including bylaw 19-071.
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Thank you very much.
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Are there any speakers to those?
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to that. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor? Carried. Any other business?
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Seeing
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none. Confirmation by-law? Your Worship, it's moved by Councilor Rial, seconded by Councilor
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Wright that the following by-law be read at first, second, and third time. By-law 19-072,
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being a by-law to confirm the proceedings of the Council at its meeting held on July
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22nd 2019. Thank you very much. All in favor. That carries. Motion to adjourn.
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Councillor Acapo.
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And we, oh yeah, we need to move back into closed session. So
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motion to, so
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motion to recess. Okay, so we're closing the public open session
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and moving back in, motion to move back into closed. Councillor Reill. All in
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favor? Okay, thank you.