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here Council Member Von Wilpert
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Council Member Council
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PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
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Councilmember Campo Council
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Member Moreno Present Council
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Member Ella Rivera and Council
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PRESIDENT LaCava.
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Thank you Clerk I notice that
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Council member Whitburn has
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entered chamber so please mark
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him as present and we do in
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fact have a quorum.
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We will begin this morning with
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an invocation by Clark Fuentes
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followed with the land
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acknowledgment and the Pledge
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of Allegiance led by council
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member Campbell Grant.
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Those who hold office in this
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city the spirit of wisdom,
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charity and justice that with
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steadfast purpose they MAY
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faithfully serve in their
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offices to promote
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the well-being of all people we
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respect.
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We acknowledge that the county
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our nation are the original
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inhabitants of the land now
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known as San Diego.
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Despite enduring the horrors of
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genocide and colonization and
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to their ancestors who fought
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to protect their culture and
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land today they carry their
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legacy forward with their
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traditions continue to thrive
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in gratitude and respect.
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We stand with the truly ancient
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and connected to our past and
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committed to a thriving future
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.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag
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of the United States of America
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and to the Republic for which
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it stands one nation under GOD,
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indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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Clark, please go over how
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the public can offer their
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testimony.
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>> Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
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I'll highlight the slide on
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the screen that reviews how
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the public can offer their
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public testimony today.
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If you are in person please
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complete a speaker slip looking
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at the entrance of chambers and
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bring it to the front of
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the room.
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No in-person testimony will be
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taken once the Council begins
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Virtual testimony for better
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meeting management purposes
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each speaker will have one
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minute per item per person.
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If you are in the virtual queue
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now's the time to raise your
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hand for closed session.
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Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
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right.
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Thank you With that please read
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the closed session items into
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the record conference with your
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counsel Existing litigation
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pursuant to California
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Government Code Section 5495
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6.91 is this one Dorset William
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Jane versus City of San Diego
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Siesta is Jacob Tresco versus
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City of San Diego c.
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S three is Rodney atl High
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versus City of San Diego.
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C.
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S for is livable San Diego
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versus City of San Diego.
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Conference with Property
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negotiator pursuant to
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California Government Code
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Section 54956.865 Property
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seven then market 55,000 square
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foot site located downtown San
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Diego between seventh sixth
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Avenue Market Street and Island
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Avenue.
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Under negotiation price and
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payment terms related to
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unsolicited offer for
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the potential redevelopment of
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the seventh and market site
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located on the block bounded by
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seventh sixth Market Island in
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downtown San Diego.
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Conference with existing Legal
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Counsel Existing litigation
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pursuant to California
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Government Code Section 5495
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6.90 166 Brianna Cooper versus
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City of San Diego Conference
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with Legal Counsel Anticipated
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litigation Initiation of
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litigation pursuant to
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California Government Code
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Section 5495 6.94 is a seven
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number of cases one going to
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those participating remotely
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because there is nobody here in
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person.
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So I sorry at the five minute
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timer starting with Andrea
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Irving if you can please let me
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know which item or items you
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wish to speak to.
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>> I was just speaking to
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the closed session litigations
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.
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Which one?
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There are seven.
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>> I'll take the last one you
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said okay.
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So I wish us all the best of
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luck in these litigations
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because you know we have and
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things are emerging obviously
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look at our harm reduction
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team, right?
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They were supposed to be
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passing on our count but
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instead they're going to
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plastic surgery and hiding all
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that medication or whatever
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that was reversal drug under a
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tarp in Alpine under 123
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whether also included in
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the deal is information that
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was distributed about this
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thing is clear that we are not
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charging people for major
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narcotics.
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We were going to test their
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drugs for them.
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We're going to test their drugs
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to make sure they were safe to
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consume, safe to consume.
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>> I mean the whole thing is
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backwards So GOD help us.
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I have no idea what these
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litigations actually are.
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But what I do know is that
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we're in big trouble as a city
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and a county and all
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the malfeasance, all
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the corruption is shining and
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it's rearing its ugly head and
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it is horrifying.
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>> Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Next is Blair Beckerman If you
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can please unmute after that is
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8700 please let me know which
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item or items you wish to speak
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to.
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>> All right.
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Where Beekman I wanted to speak
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to item five.
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>> You'll have one minute.
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Please proceed.
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Yeah.
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Um.
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Hi.
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Blair Beekman.
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It's 35.
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It's an item about development
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issues for the seventh and
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market area.
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I don't know if it's actually
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bounded by sixth Avenue.
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I don't know if this is exactly
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the place, but there's a huge
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parking space on between
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seventh and eighth Avenues That
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is of interest to myself.
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I don't know if that is this
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item.
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There is a hotel on the corner
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of this large parking lot that
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you want to redevelop.
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It's a very, very old hotel and
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it has a deep history of
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African-American heritage
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African-American history about
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it that I hope whatever
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development will be there in
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the future that will honor that
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building what we should be
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about.
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It's important affordable very
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truly affordable housing is a
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good idea.
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>> We think in those terms.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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And 8700 if you can please
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unmute and let me know which
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item or items you wish to speak
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to.
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>> Thank you.
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Item 126 please.
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>> You'll have three minutes.
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Please proceed.
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Jason Yeah the cd three Number
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one Even though the letter of
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the law the First Amendment
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rights drives the litigation
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the spirit of the law must
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drive the outcome of both
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involved with fairness ingested
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justice.
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Dear Public Take a look at
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qualified immunity Two words
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qualified immunity See as two,
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three and six cracks, trenches,
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potholes, skateboards,
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bicycles, motorcycles.
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The only way to get our arms
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around these obstacles is
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the public needs to point them
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out.
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The public need to do their own
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safety advocates see be alert
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and aware and the city needs to
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do their best and we're all
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doing our best to hold them in
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the paper on floor for us for a
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challenge.
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I am glad we are reigning in
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secure at state levels.
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We must all work together to
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shape sustainable development
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that serves all the side 17
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market.
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This feels like my third
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lifetime in this project site.
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The first two were very bumpy
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Dear Robert Green Company team
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put on top of your to do list
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for the seventh and market
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deals one people one San Diego
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and ditto for council Mayor and
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all involved in this price in
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payment terms thank you all for
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your consideration.
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Have a beautiful week and love
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you all.
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Thank you.
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That concludes public comment
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on the closed session agenda.
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All right.
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Thank you.
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City clerk We will now recess
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in the closed session and
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reconvene council today at 2
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And
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thank you
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for
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your
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All right.
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Good afternoon.
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I will now reconvene the City
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council meeting of Monday
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FEBRUARY 23rd, 2026.
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Clerk Please call the roll.
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Thank you.
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Council PRESIDENT Council
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Member Campbell Councilmember
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Whitman Council Member Foster
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Councilmember Von Wahlberg's
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Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
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Councilmember Campo Council
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Reno Present and Council Member
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Ella Rivera present.
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Would you like to make your
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statement?
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Councilmember Lerer We did hear
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you here in council chambers if
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you'd like to say your
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statement for the record.
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>> Yeah, I'm notifying
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the council that I will be
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attending the meeting today
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remotely due to just cause
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related to child care.
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So it's about act and
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disclosing that there are no
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individuals 18 years of age or
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older present in the room with
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me and I will update this
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disclosure a change during
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the course of the meeting And
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for the record I do need to
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call council PRESIDENT To cover
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PRESIDENT Also taking
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the meeting or is this the city
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attorney Leslie Fitzgerald
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Independent budget Analyst
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Charles Monaco Council Affairs
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Affairs Advisor in the mayor's
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office got advisor and myself
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for City Clerk Diana Fuentes
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Thank you.
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Council PRESIDENT All right
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thank you.
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Without a quorum is now present
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We'll start off if are there
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any comments from the mayor's
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office to the council members
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or the attorney and the budget
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analyst or the city clerk not
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seeing any.
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I'll move right along.
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So before the clerk goes over
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the public how the public can
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offer their public testimony
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just a notice to the public.
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We do have we had a morning
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session.
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We're having an afternoon
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session and we're going to have
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an evening session starting at
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6:00.
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We will be taking public non
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agenda public comment after
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this afternoon session.
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We're not going to make you sit
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through the 6:00 session for
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that.
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So again at the end of this
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afternoon's session we will
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take public knowledge into
[18:13]
public comment whether you're
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in person or remote after we
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take that agenda public comment
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the council will then recess
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and reconvene at 6 P.M. For our
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evening meeting That will take
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public input on the development
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of the fiscal year 2027 budget.
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So again non agenda public
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comment will be taken at
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the end of our current session
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the afternoon session and then
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we'll reconvene at 6 P.M. So
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with that clerk please proceed
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with how public can offer their
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testimony.
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>> Thank you.
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Council PRESIDENT I'll
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highlight the slide on
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the screen that review to
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the public and offer the public
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testimony during this
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afternoon's meeting.
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The order can be found on
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the agenda Summary found online
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or at the table in the back of
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the room.
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If you are in person please
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complete the speaker Slip
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looking at the entrance of
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chambers and bring it to
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the front of the room and place
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it in the clear box Council
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ambassadors are available in
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the entrance of chambers and
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can assist with questions and
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speakers Lips no further
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in-person testimony will be
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taken once the council begins
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Virtual testimony.
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Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
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All right.
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Thank you.
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And with that please introduce
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item 200 item 200 as the fiscal
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year 2026 mid-year budget
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monitoring report.
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If you'd like to speak to this
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item, now's the time to raise
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your hand by pressing Star nine
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or the raise your hand icon or
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if you are participating here
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in person please be sure to
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submit your speakers up to
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the front of the room in
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the clear box for better
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reading management.
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Thank you.
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Council PRESIDENT All right.
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Thank you.
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And as our good folks from
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the Department of Finance
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settle in, please identify
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yourself for the record and let
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us know how much time you need.
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>> Good afternoon, Council
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PRESIDENT Lacob and council
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members.
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I'm Ben Battaglia, director of
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finance and with me is Chris
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Purcell, Financial Operations
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Manager.
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We're here today to present
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the fiscal year 2026 mid-year
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budget monitoring report.
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>> And we'll need about 12
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minutes for our presentation.
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All right.
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When you're ready.
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This is the second budget
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monitoring report for
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the fiscal year in DECEMBER we
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presented the first quarter
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budget monitoring report to
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the city council.
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And this was based on only
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three months of financial
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activity.
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It also had a limited focus
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primarily on Major General fund
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revenues as well as over time
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projections for the police and
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fire rescue departments.
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The mid-year budget monitoring
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report was developed in
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coordination with departments
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based on five months of
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financial activity.
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It includes a full analysis of
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projected revenue and
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expenditures for all general
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fund departments as well as
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several non general funds.
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Since the release of the report
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there have been a few recent
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positive developments and we
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will discuss those with you
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today.
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The development of this report
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was a team effort.
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I'd like to thank all
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departments for their valuable
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contributions.
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We've requested departments to
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attend today to assist with any
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questions you might have.
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I'll now turn it over to Chris
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to walk through the specifics
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at a high level.
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>> The report projected general
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fund expenditures to exceed
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revenues resulting in a bottom
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line deficit of 16.8 million.
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This comprised the projected
[21:20]
13.6 million decrease in
[21:23]
revenues and a slight 3.2
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million increase in
[21:24]
expenditures.
[21:25]
The decline in revenues was
[21:26]
within both the major general
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fund revenue category and
[21:30]
departmental revenues.
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While the increase in
[21:31]
expenditures is primarily due
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to personnel expenditures since
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the release of the report we
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have received additional
[21:38]
information that has a positive
[21:38]
impact on the bottom line.
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These include the anticipated
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receipt of 8 million insurance
[21:44]
proceeds related to flooding of
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the old Central Library
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provides that these unique
[21:50]
franchise fees will have a
[21:50]
positive $6 million impact on
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the general fund and additional
[21:53]
sales tax distribution which
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increases our projection by 2.6
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million.
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These positive updates are
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slightly offset by the decline
[22:00]
in transit occupancy tax of
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approximately 2,050,000 and
[22:05]
the recent announcement of
[22:05]
changes to Balboa Park parking
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which reduced anticipated
[22:09]
revenue by 1.2 million.
[22:10]
When factoring in these recent
[22:10]
developments, the revised net
[22:15]
projected activity is
[22:16]
anticipated to be a deficit of
[22:16]
1.8 million as discussed in
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the report.
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Major general fund revenues
[22:22]
were projected in the fiscal
[22:23]
year 7.2 million under budget.
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The primary drivers of this
[22:27]
decrease are the treated
[22:28]
occupancy tax and other major
[22:29]
revenue categories.
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Transit Occupancy Tax revenues
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in the general fund were
[22:35]
projected in the fiscal year
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7.4 million under budget due to
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a significant decline in
[22:40]
international travel and terms
[22:41]
growth in both leisure and
[22:41]
business travel.
[22:42]
As previously noted, recent
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updates have further reduced
[22:47]
this revenue by an additional
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350,000 but the major revenues
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were predicted in the fiscal
[22:52]
year 6.7 million under
[22:53]
the current budget due to
[22:53]
reduced interest earnings and a
[22:56]
decrease in the one city
[22:57]
transfer driven by the noted
[22:58]
decrease in total revenues.
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With the recent updates about
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the anticipated receipt of
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insurance proceeds, this
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projection would increase by 8
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million as now anticipated in
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the fiscal year.
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1.3 million over budget.
[23:10]
These are partially offset by a
[23:14]
projected increase in property
[23:15]
tax of 2 million due to
[23:15]
increased collections.
[23:19]
Additionally, sales tax was
[23:19]
projected to be 2.1 million
[23:20]
higher than assumed in
[23:21]
the budget and this is now
[23:24]
anticipated to increase by 2.6
[23:24]
million.
[23:24]
Lastly, franchise fees was
[23:25]
projected to be 2.8 million
[23:30]
over budget primarily due to
[23:30]
increased tonnage at the Sigma
[23:31]
landfill but with the cleanup
[23:32]
payment recently received from
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Genie.
[23:36]
This is expected to increase by
[23:37]
an additional 4.5 million when
[23:37]
including the updates after
[23:41]
the release of our report.
[23:42]
Major general fund revenues are
[23:42]
now expected to exceed
[23:43]
the budget by 7.5 million.
[23:48]
The report included projections
[23:49]
reflecting the anticipated
[23:52]
decrease in departmental
[23:53]
revenues of 6.4 million but
[23:53]
this is now anticipated to be
[23:54]
6.1 million when including
[23:58]
the recent updates.
[23:59]
That reduction included a lower
[24:00]
number of parking revenues in
[24:00]
Parks and Recreation due to
[24:04]
shift to the program's
[24:04]
implementation timelines and
[24:05]
adjustments to fee structures.
[24:06]
And this has been further
[24:06]
reduced by the recent
[24:10]
announcement of changes to be
[24:10]
implemented in MARCH.
[24:11]
Details regarding public park
[24:12]
parking will be discussed on
[24:15]
the following slide.
[24:16]
Additionally there were
[24:16]
reductions anticipated for
[24:21]
wayfinding kiosks, telecom and
[24:22]
use of concession revenue
[24:23]
within economic development.
[24:23]
Reduced parking citation of
[24:24]
parking meter reimbursement
[24:27]
revenue and stormwater.
[24:28]
And a continued decline in
[24:29]
cannabis business tax revenue
[24:30]
in city Treasuries.
[24:33]
These decreases are partially
[24:34]
offset by increases in fire
[24:34]
rescue for reimbursements
[24:35]
related to the junior lifeguard
[24:39]
paramedic programs as well as
[24:40]
strike team deployments.
[24:40]
Police also anticipate
[24:41]
additional reimbursements for
[24:45]
work performed on special
[24:46]
events.
[24:46]
Lastly, offsetting some of
[24:47]
the projected reduction in
[24:48]
Parks and recreation is
[24:51]
the portion of the increase in
[24:52]
franchise fee revenue
[24:53]
previously discussed which will
[24:57]
be deposited into the bottom of
[24:57]
the growth funds and to be able
[24:58]
to reimburse eligible
[24:59]
expenditures in the general
[25:04]
fund.
[25:04]
Here we see a breakdown of how
[25:05]
the projections for our parking
[25:06]
program have changed over time.
[25:10]
The adopted budget was
[25:11]
approved.
[25:11]
The anticipated revenue for
[25:12]
this program was 12.5 million
[25:12]
based on city staff's
[25:15]
assumptions and
[25:16]
the modifications made by
[25:16]
the City Council in SEPTEMBER.
[25:17]
City staff presented to council
[25:22]
an updated proposal for how
[25:23]
rates could be structured to
[25:24]
watch revenues that closely
[25:24]
aligned with the amount
[25:27]
included in the budget.
[25:28]
This proposal is projected to
[25:29]
generate 12.2 million in
[25:32]
revenue approximately 3000 less
[25:33]
than the budget assumed.
[25:33]
The proposal was ultimately
[25:34]
approved with an amended
[25:38]
resolution.
[25:39]
The implementation will begin
[25:39]
only once quarterly annual,
[25:40]
quarterly and annual passes
[25:44]
were available and with
[25:44]
modifications to the proposed
[25:45]
fee structures.
[25:46]
In NOVEMBER staff returned to
[25:50]
council with the requested
[25:51]
changes to the proposed fees.
[25:52]
These changes included periodic
[25:56]
passes to rate changes
[25:57]
the hours of inspiration point
[25:57]
resident versus nonresident
[25:58]
rates and the delayed
[26:02]
implementation to align with
[26:02]
the availability of quarterly
[26:03]
passes.
[26:03]
Incorporating those changes
[26:04]
resulted in a revenue
[26:07]
projection of 3.7 million and
[26:08]
represented a further reduction
[26:09]
of 8.5 million from
[26:13]
the proposal originally
[26:14]
presented in SEPTEMBER for a
[26:15]
total decrease of 8.8 million
[26:15]
from the budget.
[26:20]
Lastly, on FEBRUARY 6th
[26:21]
the mayor announced he was
[26:21]
expanding free parking zones
[26:22]
for city residents and limiting
[26:26]
parking enforcement to end at 6
[26:27]
P.M. Rather than 8 P.M..
[26:28]
These changes are expected to
[26:28]
take effect in MARCH.
[26:32]
With these changes, projected
[26:33]
revenues are approximately 2.5
[26:38]
million reflecting a further
[26:38]
decrease of 1.2 million from
[26:39]
the department projections
[26:42]
included in the report and a
[26:43]
total decrease of 10 million
[26:43]
from the budget.
[26:44]
The slide provides a breakdown
[26:48]
of expenditure categories tied
[26:48]
to city staffing.
[26:49]
When combined personnel
[26:50]
expenditure and fringe benefits
[26:53]
are projected to exceed
[26:54]
the budget by $15.1 million,
[26:55]
the overage and personnel
[26:55]
expenditures is mainly
[26:56]
attributed to increased
[27:00]
overtime cost of 12.9 million.
[27:01]
This is primarily within three
[27:05]
departments Fire Rescue to
[27:06]
maintain constant staffing
[27:07]
dispatcher training and
[27:07]
deployment backfill.
[27:08]
As noted, the increase is
[27:12]
anticipated to be partially
[27:13]
offset by increased
[27:13]
reimbursements in police.
[27:14]
This is due to support higher
[27:15]
activity at special events and
[27:18]
parking enforcement.
[27:19]
And again this is projected to
[27:20]
be partially offset by
[27:20]
increased reimbursements.
[27:24]
Lastly, transportation
[27:25]
increases primarily to support
[27:26]
emergencies and callbacks as in
[27:26]
prior years.
[27:32]
The projection does include an
[27:32]
estimate for chalcedon
[27:33]
the judgment of 3 million
[27:34]
combined across salaries and
[27:36]
fringe benefits to account for
[27:37]
anticipated differences between
[27:38]
what a department be project
[27:42]
and your an actuals for non
[27:43]
personnel expenditures and
[27:43]
excluding fringe.
[27:44]
These are projected to be under
[27:48]
budget by 11.9 million.
[27:48]
This includes a 2.8 million net
[27:49]
decrease in contracts primarily
[27:54]
due to a decrease in
[27:55]
contributions to public
[27:55]
liability fund as that fund
[27:56]
received insurance proceeds
[27:59]
that will be available to
[28:00]
support current law payments.
[28:01]
Those savings were partially
[28:02]
offset by higher contractual
[28:05]
equipment agreements and
[28:06]
service cost across
[28:07]
transportation, police parks
[28:07]
and recreation and fire rescue.
[28:12]
A 1.9 million decrease in
[28:12]
information technology due to
[28:13]
the fund's operational
[28:17]
efficiencies and the use of
[28:18]
their available fund balance to
[28:19]
offset non-discretionary costs
[28:23]
and a 1.4 million decrease in
[28:24]
debt due to timing of
[28:24]
the helicopter leases in fire
[28:25]
rescue and police which reduced
[28:29]
the anticipated number of
[28:30]
payments in the current year.
[28:30]
Offsetting these savings is an
[28:34]
increase of 3.4 million energy
[28:35]
utilities primarily in parks
[28:36]
and recreation due to lottery
[28:36]
changes.
[28:41]
Lastly, we analyzed recent
[28:41]
media reports of constituent
[28:44]
actions Inc. An estimated $10
[28:45]
million historical savings
[28:45]
adjustment which is
[28:46]
approximately 1.7% of projected
[28:50]
expenditures.
[28:51]
Here we have the requested
[28:52]
appropriation adjustments for
[28:52]
the general fund.
[28:56]
We are requesting a
[28:57]
reallocation of budget among
[28:58]
departments with no bottom line
[28:58]
impact.
[29:02]
The savings within the general
[29:03]
settings within the city wide
[29:04]
program expenditures department
[29:04]
are tied to the previously
[29:08]
mentioned decrease contribution
[29:09]
to the public liability fund
[29:09]
and reallocating those savings
[29:10]
will ensure continuity of
[29:15]
operations and that required
[29:16]
operations are met for the five
[29:17]
departments noted in the table.
[29:20]
For general funds each of these
[29:21]
requests is supported by
[29:22]
available fund balance in those
[29:22]
funds and are critical for
[29:26]
those funds to operate.
[29:26]
Before we conclude budgeting
[29:31]
about a look ahead at fiscal
[29:32]
year 2027 as you remember
[29:32]
the five year financial outlook
[29:36]
released in NOVEMBER 2025
[29:37]
reflected the projected
[29:37]
baseline shortfall of 8.8
[29:38]
million.
[29:41]
Since the release of that
[29:42]
report, the projected shortfall
[29:43]
has increased by approximately
[29:43]
30 million due to increased
[29:48]
expenditures and decreased
[29:48]
revenues.
[29:49]
Some items contributing to this
[29:53]
increase are the removal of 5.8
[29:53]
million property tax associated
[29:58]
with the sale to a 5.6 million
[29:59]
reduction treaty occupancy tax
[30:02]
based on meter receipts and a
[30:03]
16.4 million increase in
[30:03]
the pension payment.
[30:04]
Based on the updated actuarial
[30:04]
valuation.
[30:08]
The city will need to be
[30:09]
strategic in its reductions in
[30:09]
service levels to address
[30:14]
the projected shortfall which
[30:14]
will be incorporated in a
[30:15]
balanced draft budget released
[30:18]
by the Mayor on APRIL 15th.
[30:18]
To conclude, the report
[30:19]
projects general fund revenues
[30:24]
to come in under budget while
[30:25]
expenditures are projected
[30:26]
slightly over budget.
[30:26]
Updates Since the report's
[30:30]
release showing improvements in
[30:31]
revenue but a deficit is still
[30:31]
projected.
[30:32]
If there are no more positive
[30:37]
improvements, the general fund
[30:37]
would need to draft
[30:38]
the stability Reserve in
[30:39]
the fiscal year balanced.
[30:39]
We are requesting
[30:41]
the reallocation appropriations
[30:42]
between general fund
[30:43]
departments to ensure
[30:43]
continuity of operations and to
[30:48]
beat record obligations without
[30:48]
a bottom line impact.
[30:49]
Mitigation efforts will
[30:50]
continue to be implemented by
[30:55]
departments and future reports
[30:55]
will include updates on those
[30:56]
efforts.
[30:58]
Development of the fiscal year
[30:59]
2027 budget will be difficult
[31:00]
and require strategic
[31:05]
reductions in service levels to
[31:05]
balance.
[31:06]
The Department Finance will
[31:06]
continue to monitor revenues
[31:07]
expenditures and will release
[31:11]
the fiscal year 2026 third
[31:12]
quarter budget monitoring
[31:13]
report on MAY 13th.
[31:13]
That concludes the presentation
[31:17]
on the Media Report And now we
[31:18]
will turn it over to the police
[31:18]
department so they can provide
[31:22]
an update on their overtime and
[31:22]
neighborhood policing as
[31:23]
requested in the fiscal year
[31:24]
2026 appropriation ordinance.
[31:47]
>> Chief, as you settle in
[31:49]
introduce yourselves for
[31:50]
the record and let us know how
[31:55]
much time you will need.
[31:56]
Good afternoon.
[31:56]
Scott Walker, chief of police.
[32:02]
I'm joined today by our cfo.
[32:03]
We meet about 5 or 6 minutes.
[32:04]
All right.
[32:04]
All right.
[32:08]
Good afternoon.
[32:08]
Council PRESIDENT.
[32:09]
Like other notable
[32:10]
councilmembers, we're here
[32:10]
today to provide an update on
[32:11]
two important areas required
[32:14]
under the f y 26 appropriation
[32:14]
ordinance.
[32:15]
First is are police overtime
[32:15]
spending.
[32:19]
And the second is our
[32:19]
neighborhood policing division.
[32:20]
I bring with me today some good
[32:21]
news.
[32:24]
This update reflects real
[32:25]
progress in how we are managing
[32:26]
our resources while continuing
[32:31]
to meet serious public safety
[32:31]
challenges.
[32:32]
Our department's overtime
[32:35]
budget for f y 26 is about 45
[32:35]
million.
[32:36]
It is important to say that
[32:37]
overtime remains a critical
[32:41]
resource for our department as
[32:42]
we are extremely with extremely
[32:42]
low staffing levels.
[32:47]
We rely on overtime to maintain
[32:47]
service levels, maintain
[32:48]
response times and support
[32:53]
special operations.
[32:54]
I've been very clear since
[32:54]
becoming police chief.
[32:55]
While overtime is necessary,
[32:59]
achieving maximum efficiency
[33:00]
with the limited number of
[33:01]
officers we have and spending
[33:01]
our overtime dollars
[33:02]
responsibly are part of our top
[33:06]
priorities.
[33:06]
My commitment has been bringing
[33:07]
our overtime spending back into
[33:12]
budget in a to say this year.
[33:13]
We did that for fiscal year 26.
[33:17]
Are non cost recoverable
[33:18]
overtime is on budget.
[33:18]
We did that in part by putting
[33:19]
each commanding officer on a
[33:24]
budget and by shifting our
[33:25]
focus to cost recoverable
[33:25]
overtime areas like grants and
[33:29]
special events.
[33:30]
We anticipate being 3.4 million
[33:31]
over budget in those cost
[33:31]
recoverable areas.
[33:35]
However, those areas are
[33:36]
reimbursable.
[33:40]
All told we're expecting to see
[33:41]
a 6.5 million reduction in
[33:42]
overtime spending compared to
[33:42]
last year the largest year over
[33:46]
year decrease in more than a
[33:46]
decade.
[33:47]
More importantly we were able
[33:48]
to do it without negatively
[33:53]
impacting response times.
[33:53]
This reduction didn't happen by
[33:54]
chance.
[33:59]
We knew if we were going to
[33:59]
significantly cut overtime
[34:00]
costs we need we would need to
[34:01]
take a hard look at how we
[34:04]
track and manage those funds.
[34:05]
We built an entirely new
[34:05]
monitoring process that gives
[34:11]
command staff a much clearer
[34:11]
look into how we're spending
[34:16]
those overtime dollars.
[34:17]
That increased transparency
[34:17]
allows for real time oversight
[34:18]
and better decision making.
[34:22]
The result is a leaner overtime
[34:23]
budget and better stewardship
[34:23]
of our employees on shift Now
[34:28]
over to our neighbor policing
[34:28]
division.
[34:29]
When I restructured
[34:29]
the department, one of my goals
[34:30]
was to strengthen our efforts
[34:34]
in the area of homelessness.
[34:35]
To accomplish this I
[34:35]
immediately shifted each
[34:36]
academy class to spend three
[34:39]
months working with
[34:40]
the neighborhood policing
[34:41]
officers, learning their craft
[34:41]
and supporting them in their
[34:45]
work.
[34:46]
Homelessness remains one of
[34:47]
the top concerns we hear from
[34:47]
residents and it requires a
[34:52]
consistent coordinated
[34:52]
approach.
[34:53]
Our department uses a
[34:53]
progressive enforcement model
[34:57]
that means officers work
[34:58]
alongside service providers
[34:59]
mental health clinicians,
[34:59]
outreach workers and registered
[35:04]
nurses to offer education
[35:05]
outreach and support first.
[35:10]
Enforcement is a last resort
[35:11]
but it is an important tool
[35:11]
When people are offered help
[35:12]
repeatedly and understand that
[35:15]
there are consequences for
[35:16]
refusing services.
[35:16]
We see better outcomes.
[35:22]
This approach is not about
[35:23]
criminalization.
[35:23]
It's about using every part of
[35:24]
the system to connect people to
[35:24]
long term solutions.
[35:28]
The strategy helped contribute
[35:29]
to a decrease in the number of
[35:30]
unsheltered individuals in
[35:30]
the 2025 point in time count.
[35:35]
The first decrease since 2020
[35:40]
mpd operates with a budget of
[35:41]
approximately 29.6 million with
[35:44]
about 23% of that or 6.8
[35:45]
million being in overtime.
[35:45]
Importantly, the division is
[35:50]
projected to be on budget this
[35:51]
fiscal year while delivering
[35:51]
measurable results for
[35:56]
the community.
[35:56]
Mpd work isn't always the most
[35:57]
visible but it is very
[35:57]
impactful.
[36:03]
It was mpd that took the lead
[36:04]
in enforcing our oversize book
[36:05]
ordinance and vehicle
[36:05]
habitation ordinances.
[36:08]
So far they referred over 400
[36:09]
individuals to the safe parking
[36:10]
program at each barracks
[36:14]
resulting in 94 successful
[36:14]
placements.
[36:15]
They've also helped to complete
[36:18]
245 abatements and removed more
[36:18]
than 226 tons of waste from
[36:19]
freeway on and off ramps
[36:19]
downtown.
[36:24]
Many of you have seen how that
[36:25]
area had become out of control.
[36:25]
These efforts significantly
[36:30]
improved the health and safety
[36:30]
in those areas.
[36:31]
I've said it before and I'll
[36:32]
say it again.
[36:36]
Being fiscally responsible is a
[36:37]
top priority for me as chief.
[36:38]
The historic rate reduction and
[36:38]
overtime spending and
[36:42]
the responsible management of
[36:43]
the Neighborhood Policing
[36:43]
division reflects that
[36:44]
commitment.
[36:44]
We are focused on using
[36:48]
taxpayer dollars wisely while
[36:48]
continuing to deliver the level
[36:49]
of service our community
[36:50]
expects and deserves.
[36:55]
Thank you and we'll be here if
[36:56]
there are any questions later.
[36:56]
All right.
[36:57]
Thank you you for that
[36:57]
presentation.
[36:59]
I will now turn it over to
[37:00]
the Office of the Independent
[37:01]
Budget analyst MR. Monaco for
[37:01]
your presentation.
[37:02]
Thank you.
[37:07]
Council PRESIDENT And council
[37:07]
members.
[37:08]
As my team comes up I know that
[37:09]
I'll be joined for today's
[37:12]
presentation by surgery
[37:13]
Oncology and Jordan Moore.
[37:14]
Although our whole team is here
[37:14]
either in person or on
[37:18]
the phone for questions, our
[37:19]
office released a detailed
[37:20]
analysis of the Media report on
[37:20]
FEBRUARY 18th and we will cover
[37:25]
that in this presentation.
[37:26]
And so once you get settled in
[37:26]
perfect go to the next slide.
[37:30]
Our report specifically covers
[37:30]
general fund revenue and
[37:31]
expenditure and we provide
[37:32]
additional context and updates
[37:32]
to the mid-year projections.
[37:36]
We also discuss additional
[37:37]
items including the city's
[37:37]
reserve homelessness programs,
[37:42]
the Development Service Fund
[37:43]
and the proposed appropriation
[37:43]
adjustments that are included
[37:44]
in the mid-year.
[37:44]
Beyond that we include
[37:48]
attachments to our report that
[37:49]
provide a status update on
[37:49]
various items including
[37:50]
modifications for council made
[37:54]
to the budget during
[37:55]
the budget's adoption in JUNE
[37:55]
as well as the status of
[37:56]
positions that were eliminated
[37:57]
in the current year's adopted
[37:57]
budget.
[38:00]
With that I will turn this over
[38:01]
to surgical holding who will
[38:02]
walk us through general fund
[38:02]
revenues and expenditures.
[38:06]
Thanks Charles.
[38:06]
The major projects the Media
[38:07]
report projects the city's
[38:11]
general fund revenues to be a
[38:12]
net $9.9 million below
[38:13]
the budget of this major
[38:18]
general fund revenues projected
[38:19]
to end the fiscal year $7.2
[38:20]
million below that budget or
[38:23]
the department revenues are
[38:24]
projected to be $2.7 million
[38:24]
below the adopted budget.
[38:28]
We'd like to note that the $2.7
[38:29]
million $2.7 million
[38:29]
departmental variance in
[38:34]
the table differs from the $6.4
[38:35]
million figure referenced in
[38:40]
the year presentation.
[38:40]
This difference is because our
[38:41]
comparison is based on
[38:42]
the mid-year projections
[38:47]
the adopted budget while
[38:47]
the audit compares projections
[38:48]
to the current budget.
[38:49]
The difference between
[38:52]
the adopted budget and
[38:52]
the current budget is primarily
[38:53]
due to an increase in budgetary
[38:54]
revenue for the Transportation
[38:55]
Department which we will
[38:59]
discuss later in this
[38:59]
presentation or the next few
[39:00]
slides will cover additional
[39:04]
information and considerations
[39:05]
and select revenue items.
[39:06]
Starting off at Celltex.
[39:10]
Well our office concurs with a
[39:11]
current sales tax projection.
[39:12]
There are some factors worth
[39:12]
noting.
[39:16]
Economists have described
[39:16]
post-pandemic recovery as
[39:17]
k-shaped with spending by
[39:21]
higher income households
[39:22]
growing while lower income
[39:22]
spending declines.
[39:23]
The reliance on consumer
[39:27]
spending from high income
[39:28]
households MAY be a result of
[39:29]
high stock market returns and
[39:33]
the growth of companies.
[39:34]
This fiscal year sales tax
[39:39]
growth MAY mask increased risks
[39:40]
associated with a potential
[39:40]
overheated stock market that
[39:41]
could lead to a large impact on
[39:45]
the city's sales tax revenue if
[39:45]
the market cools.
[39:46]
That said, elevated household
[39:51]
spending MAY continue in
[39:51]
the immediate future as
[39:52]
consumers receive increased tax
[39:56]
refunds from provisions in
[39:57]
the One big Beautiful Bill Act
[39:58]
which MAY act like a one time
[40:03]
stimulus payment.
[40:03]
One additional note on sales
[40:04]
tax a city just recently
[40:08]
received a cleanup payment for
[40:08]
a second quarter fiscal year
[40:13]
2026 sales which came in $2.5
[40:14]
million higher than anticipated
[40:14]
in the Media Report.
[40:15]
Similarly regarding franchise
[40:19]
fees, the city was just
[40:20]
recently informed that these
[40:22]
cleanup payments for fiscal
[40:23]
year 2026 would be $4.5 million
[40:29]
above projections.
[40:30]
Moving on to the transient
[40:30]
occupancy tax, the general fund
[40:34]
portion of total is projected
[40:35]
to end the fiscal year $7.4
[40:36]
million below the adopted
[40:36]
budget.
[40:40]
Overall total revenues
[40:41]
projected to end the fiscal
[40:42]
year at $19.4 million below
[40:46]
the shortfall is partly due to
[40:47]
reduced international travel to
[40:47]
the United States because
[40:52]
revenue received from
[40:53]
the General Fund special promo
[40:54]
programs and council
[40:54]
discretionary portions of totty
[40:58]
as well as revenue from
[40:58]
the Total Homeless Fund are
[40:59]
used to reimburse eligible
[41:00]
general fund expenses.
[41:05]
The decline in overall total
[41:05]
revenue has a greater general
[41:09]
fund impact than just the-$7.4
[41:10]
million Million dollar
[41:10]
variance.
[41:11]
Additionally, since
[41:11]
the publication of the mid-year
[41:15]
report total has come in less
[41:15]
than budgeted but to
[41:16]
the projections for the month
[41:21]
of JANUARY as well.
[41:22]
This equates to an
[41:22]
approximately $400,000
[41:23]
reduction to the general fund
[41:27]
in council discretionary
[41:28]
portions of tlt and several
[41:33]
departmental revenues starting
[41:34]
off with the revenue from
[41:34]
the paid parking program in
[41:35]
the ballpark.
[41:39]
The media report assumes that
[41:40]
the program will generate
[41:41]
approximately $3.7 million in
[41:41]
revenue.
[41:45]
This estimate was based on
[41:45]
limited data following
[41:46]
the implementation of the paid
[41:50]
parking program on JANUARY 5th
[41:50]
following the release of
[41:51]
the mid-year report.
[41:51]
However, the mayor announced
[41:55]
certain modifications to pay
[41:56]
parking program on FEBRUARY 6th
[41:56]
including free parking for
[41:57]
verified city residents at
[42:02]
certain lots.
[42:03]
With these modifications staff
[42:03]
now projects the year end
[42:07]
revenue from the paid parking
[42:08]
program to be $2.5 million
[42:08]
which is $10 million less than
[42:12]
what was included in the budget
[42:13]
.
[42:13]
Additionally, expenditures to
[42:14]
implement and operate
[42:15]
the program are currently
[42:18]
projected to be $505,000
[42:19]
dollars.
[42:22]
Under budget resulting in a
[42:22]
projected $9.5 million net
[42:23]
impact of the general fund
[42:28]
regarding parking meter related
[42:29]
revenue transfers from
[42:29]
the Parking Meter Operations
[42:30]
Fund to the general fund are
[42:34]
projected to be $3.6 million
[42:35]
less than budgeted.
[42:35]
The shortfall reflects lower
[42:36]
than budgeted revenues from
[42:41]
initiatives including
[42:42]
the budget such as event based
[42:42]
pricing, double meter rates and
[42:46]
expanded hours as well as
[42:47]
increased expenditures related
[42:47]
to meter expansions.
[42:48]
These negative impacts are
[42:52]
partially offset by additional
[42:53]
unbudgeted revenue from loss of
[42:53]
revenue fees and revenue
[42:54]
collected from new parking
[42:54]
meters.
[42:58]
Additional information on
[42:59]
the Parking Meter operations
[43:03]
fund can be found in Attachment
[43:03]
three of our report.
[43:08]
The Mitchell Report projects
[43:08]
$19.1 million in revenue from
[43:09]
the cannabis business tax which
[43:14]
is approximately $2 million
[43:15]
lower than what was included in
[43:15]
the budget.
[43:19]
The shortfall is primarily due
[43:20]
to continued decline in
[43:21]
reported taxable gross receipts
[43:21]
driven by increased competition
[43:25]
from the legal market and
[43:26]
increased wholesale prices from
[43:27]
an oversupply of cannabis
[43:31]
products.
[43:32]
It remains unclear whether
[43:33]
the 2% tax increase for retail
[43:33]
outlets implemented in MAY last
[43:37]
year has contributed to
[43:38]
the overall projected shortfall
[43:39]
by driving customers to other
[43:43]
jurisdictions or the illicit
[43:43]
market.
[43:44]
Sales data suggest that
[43:45]
the rate increase did not have
[43:49]
a significant immediate impact
[43:50]
on taxable sales as a down a
[43:51]
downward trend was seemingly
[43:55]
driven by preexisting factors.
[43:56]
Moving on to homelessness
[44:01]
department revenue $5.6 million
[44:01]
from one time measure.
[44:02]
Revenue from four homelessness
[44:06]
collect collected in fiscal
[44:07]
year 2025 was included in
[44:08]
the mid-year report.
[44:08]
However, rather than being used
[44:12]
to offset the use of limited
[44:13]
limited state app grants as
[44:17]
contemplated in the most recent
[44:18]
financial outlook is now
[44:19]
projected to offset
[44:19]
the decreases in total funding
[44:24]
to supports homelessness.
[44:30]
Shifting over to general fund
[44:31]
expenditures, our report
[44:31]
largely focuses on salaries and
[44:36]
wages which are projected to go
[44:37]
over budget by $18.2 million
[44:40]
with the most significant cost
[44:41]
being over time of $16.2
[44:41]
million.
[44:42]
We note that the departments
[44:43]
with the largest overtime
[44:47]
overages include fire rescue,
[44:52]
transportation and police fire
[44:53]
rescue is projected to be $6.8
[44:54]
million over their overtime
[44:58]
budget but the net impact of
[44:59]
this is reduced to
[44:59]
approximately $5 million when
[45:00]
accounting for strike team
[45:05]
deployment reimbursements.
[45:05]
This overage is largely due to
[45:06]
constant fire suppression
[45:07]
staffing needs and increased
[45:11]
fire dispatch overtime
[45:12]
according to the fire rescue
[45:12]
department.
[45:13]
This use of overtime is
[45:13]
necessary to backfill
[45:17]
dispatcher positions while
[45:18]
recent hires complete
[45:18]
dispatcher training.
[45:23]
The police department is
[45:24]
projected to be $3.4 million
[45:25]
over budget for overtime with
[45:29]
the general fund impact being
[45:29]
reduced to $1.1 million after
[45:30]
accounting for revenue from
[45:31]
reimbursable overtime
[45:35]
activities including special
[45:36]
events and grant or task force
[45:37]
participation as well as
[45:41]
enhanced parking meter
[45:41]
enforcement.
[45:42]
It's worth noting that pd's
[45:45]
projected overtime expenditures
[45:46]
in fiscal year 2026 are lower
[45:47]
than actual expenditures in
[45:51]
fiscal year 2024 and fiscal
[45:51]
year 2025, indicating that
[45:52]
the department's efforts to
[45:53]
better manage overtime are
[45:57]
proving effective and haphazard
[45:57]
over to join a more to cover
[45:58]
the most of the remaining
[46:03]
slides.
[46:03]
Thank you Sergio.
[46:07]
So on this slide the first
[46:08]
thing we'd like to point out is
[46:09]
transportation salary budget
[46:12]
which the media report projects
[46:12]
to be $2.1 million over
[46:13]
the adopted budget.
[46:14]
The report notes that this is
[46:18]
mostly due to the Department
[46:19]
hiring at a faster pace than
[46:19]
projected following the lifting
[46:20]
of the request for process at
[46:24]
the beginning of this fiscal
[46:25]
year and prior to its
[46:25]
reimposition at the release of
[46:26]
the first quarter report.
[46:27]
What this indicates to us is
[46:30]
that vacancies in
[46:31]
the department are lower than
[46:32]
what has historically been seen
[46:32]
within the department's overall
[46:36]
budget.
[46:36]
Regarding overtime
[46:37]
transportation is projected to
[46:42]
be $4.6 million over
[46:42]
the adopted budget.
[46:43]
However we do note that
[46:45]
mid-year report shows overall
[46:46]
only be $1.2 million.
[46:47]
This is due to two previous
[46:47]
actions taken by the council
[46:51]
which included the waiving at
[46:52]
the community parking districts
[46:53]
which brought revenue into
[46:54]
the general fund as well as an
[46:58]
increased revenue related to a
[46:59]
sidewalk sip.
[46:59]
Both of these actions also
[47:00]
included the authority to
[47:01]
increase the Transportation
[47:04]
Department's overtime budget.
[47:05]
So we had both revenue and
[47:05]
expenditures and that is what
[47:10]
led to the variance that Sergio
[47:10]
noted earlier.
[47:11]
>> Overtime overages have
[47:12]
become common for
[47:16]
the transportation Department
[47:16]
over the last several years,
[47:21]
particularly since fiscal year
[47:21]
2023 overtime overages have
[47:22]
grown substantially.
[47:22]
Recent overages according to
[47:23]
the department have largely
[47:28]
been driven by increases in
[47:28]
priority one emergency
[47:29]
responses or additional dig
[47:29]
other regulations.
[47:33]
Additionally, historical
[47:33]
overages have enabled increases
[47:34]
in service levels performed by
[47:39]
the Department that have not
[47:40]
been budgeted.
[47:41]
However, these increases have
[47:41]
sometimes resulted in other
[47:46]
services being reduced to keep
[47:46]
the department within its
[47:47]
overall budget allotment.
[47:52]
Transportation noted to us that
[47:53]
without additional overtime
[47:54]
spending in the current year
[47:54]
when we asked if they could
[47:57]
pull back that they would be
[47:58]
unable to generate the revenue
[47:58]
currently assumed in
[47:59]
the current budget.
[48:03]
So our office suggests a
[48:04]
misalignment between budgeted
[48:05]
revenues and the level of
[48:05]
expenditures required to
[48:09]
generate those revenues.
[48:10]
>> Accordingly we recommend
[48:10]
the Department of Finance in
[48:11]
coordination with
[48:14]
transportation ensure that
[48:15]
the fiscal year 27 proposed
[48:15]
budget better align expenditure
[48:16]
assumptions with revenue
[48:20]
projections and that in
[48:21]
the near term we recommend
[48:21]
transportation limit overtime
[48:24]
to adjust priority one
[48:25]
emergency and storm response
[48:25]
and or ensure that any
[48:26]
additional overtime is directly
[48:30]
tied to generating revenues
[48:31]
consistent with the 26 budget.
[48:31]
On Homelessness the Media
[48:36]
Report projects expenditures
[48:37]
will be $1.3 million lower than
[48:37]
budgeted.
[48:38]
However, what we do know is
[48:41]
that there is a homelessness
[48:42]
expenditure update that was not
[48:43]
discussed in the Media report
[48:44]
and this is the unknown cost of
[48:48]
the JANUARY storm shelter
[48:48]
relocation.
[48:49]
For context following a storm
[48:53]
on JANUARY 1st of this year
[48:53]
the 64 Newton sprung shelter
[48:54]
flooded requiring a temporary
[48:58]
relocation of households to
[48:59]
the San Diego municipal gym
[48:59]
resulting in unanticipated
[49:03]
relocation expenses.
[49:04]
Hst anticipates absorbing these
[49:04]
relocation costs using
[49:05]
projected budgetary savings
[49:10]
once cuts are known in MARCH.
[49:10]
Other homelessness program
[49:13]
updates include a combined
[49:14]
$669,000 in projected savings
[49:18]
due to staffing vacancies at
[49:19]
the 20th and b and Allied safe
[49:22]
sleeping sites as well as
[49:23]
$140,000 in estimated savings
[49:23]
from eliminating security
[49:24]
services for public restrooms.
[49:29]
Moving to the Development
[49:30]
Services Fund report projects
[49:30]
the fund's year in revenue to
[49:34]
exceed expenditures by 11.7
[49:34]
million.
[49:35]
Increases in revenue are driven
[49:40]
by increases in dsd fees that
[49:40]
took effect on Made in MAY
[49:41]
2025.
[49:45]
The implementation of a dynamic
[49:46]
pricing model that charges fees
[49:46]
based on time of invoicing
[49:50]
rather than upon completed
[49:51]
application submittal and
[49:51]
increased billable work.
[49:52]
The Development Service Fund
[49:56]
balance began fiscal year 2026
[49:57]
at-17.8 million with
[50:01]
the projected revenue surplus
[50:02]
the fiscal year anticipated to
[50:06]
end with an improved balance of
[50:07]
-6 million as a shortfall.
[50:08]
The fund will continue with no
[50:10]
reserve balance for fiscal year
[50:11]
26 and will not be its reserve
[50:15]
policy target of 19.3 million.
[50:16]
Dsd has no positive revenue
[50:16]
impacts due to new state
[50:20]
building code updates according
[50:20]
to the department.
[50:21]
Historically the month
[50:24]
preceding quarter updates
[50:24]
typically sees a 20 to 40%
[50:25]
increase in permitting activity
[50:29]
in DECEMBER of 2025 the month
[50:30]
before the latest code update.
[50:30]
Department revenues exceeded
[50:34]
mid-year projections by $3
[50:34]
million.
[50:35]
This amount will be reflected
[50:39]
in the third quarter report.
[50:40]
>> The mid-year report projects
[50:40]
a $16.8 million revenue
[50:41]
shortfall.
[50:45]
However, subsequent to its
[50:46]
release the Department of
[50:49]
Finance was informed of an
[50:49]
offsetting $8 million in
[50:50]
anticipated insurance proceeds
[50:51]
related to flooding damage at
[50:55]
the old Central Library.
[50:55]
Consequently, if your activity
[50:56]
were to equal the mid-year
[50:57]
revenue expenditure projections
[51:01]
adjusted for additional surance
[51:02]
proceeds, the General Fund
[51:02]
Reserve would need to be tapped
[51:05]
by $8.8 million and this table
[51:06]
shows the impact on
[51:06]
the reserve.
[51:09]
>> With a reserve balance of
[51:10]
207 million, the impact of
[51:13]
tapping the reserve by 8.8
[51:14]
million would bring the balance
[51:15]
to $64.6 million less than
[51:15]
the Reserve policy target for
[51:19]
this fiscal year of 262.9
[51:19]
million.
[51:20]
Given how the city's fiscal
[51:24]
challenges have impacted recent
[51:25]
budgeting process,
[51:25]
the Department of Finance is
[51:26]
currently working with
[51:27]
the mayor's office on proposed
[51:30]
revisions to the Reserve policy
[51:30]
which are anticipated to be
[51:31]
presented later this fiscal
[51:36]
year.
[51:36]
It is important to consider
[51:37]
that there is always some
[51:38]
uncertainty in the media
[51:38]
projections and you've heard
[51:41]
some of that from Department of
[51:42]
Finance here this morning.
[51:45]
Some other significant areas of
[51:45]
uncertainty in fiscal 2026
[51:46]
include impacts of departmental
[51:50]
mitigation directives such as
[51:51]
the request to fill process
[51:51]
suspension of discretionary
[51:52]
spending and non-essential
[51:56]
overtime and the zero based
[51:57]
review of external contracts.
[51:58]
Departments MAY also be able to
[52:01]
identify additional savings as
[52:02]
the year progresses including
[52:02]
through the potential
[52:03]
implementation of fy 2027
[52:07]
expenditure modifications.
[52:07]
However, the Department of
[52:08]
Finance also has incorporated
[52:12]
an overall general fund
[52:13]
expenditure savings adjustment
[52:17]
of 10 million of $30 million
[52:17]
which is based on historical
[52:18]
trends between mid-year
[52:19]
projections and in actual
[52:22]
expenditures in prior years.
[52:22]
If these savings do not
[52:23]
materialize by year end
[52:27]
the resulting negative impact
[52:27]
could be to further reduce
[52:28]
the general fund reserve.
[52:33]
Turning to items that are not
[52:34]
factored into the general fund
[52:34]
manager projections most of
[52:35]
these have already heard of
[52:35]
this morning.
[52:38]
There were revenue updates
[52:39]
including a sales tax cleanup
[52:40]
payment franchise fees and pot
[52:43]
reimbursements.
[52:44]
Again examples of things that
[52:45]
will change between now and
[52:45]
the third quarter report That
[52:46]
will give you a better idea of
[52:48]
how much the general fund
[52:53]
Reserve will need to be tapped
[52:53]
.
[52:54]
Additionally, the council is
[52:54]
being asked to approve general
[52:55]
fund appropriation allocations
[52:58]
among departments involving non
[52:59]
personnel expenditures and to
[53:00]
non general fund appropriation
[53:04]
increases.
[53:05]
In particular regard to
[53:05]
the general fund reallocations.
[53:06]
Important to note these
[53:09]
reallocations do not increase
[53:09]
overall expenditure
[53:10]
appropriations for the general
[53:14]
fund but rather align
[53:14]
appropriations with major
[53:15]
projected spending by using
[53:18]
$8.2 billion in savings in
[53:19]
citywide program expenditures
[53:20]
to cover increased expenditures
[53:20]
in several departments.
[53:24]
We note that these
[53:24]
reallocations will not fully
[53:25]
cover projected expenditure
[53:26]
overages from relevant
[53:29]
departments and that those
[53:30]
departments are still expected
[53:31]
to identify savings or other
[53:33]
resources to cover their
[53:34]
remaining overages.
[53:35]
Our office supports
[53:35]
the proposed appropriation
[53:40]
adjustments necessary for
[53:40]
continued operations though
[53:41]
the Council MAY wish to request
[53:45]
more details on the appropriate
[53:46]
ness of the general fund
[53:46]
appropriations.
[53:47]
Given the overall projected
[53:50]
current year deficit, I'll turn
[53:50]
it back to Charles.
[53:51]
Thanks, Jordan.
[53:52]
So in conclusion if you thought
[53:55]
the media report is projecting
[53:56]
a current year deficit of 16.8
[53:56]
million, there has been
[53:57]
positive news in this release.
[54:01]
As you've heard, we will
[54:01]
receive additional dollars for
[54:02]
an insurance payment and two of
[54:03]
our major revenues sales tax
[54:06]
and stadium franchise fees and
[54:06]
seen positive movement in
[54:07]
the last several weeks.
[54:10]
Although others hotel taxes and
[54:11]
parking revenue in particular
[54:12]
are likely to further
[54:15]
underperform from projections,
[54:16]
we know these projections will
[54:17]
continue to shift as the year
[54:17]
progresses and we'll have
[54:20]
additional information when
[54:21]
the third quarter is released
[54:21]
in MAY.
[54:22]
But especially given the fiscal
[54:25]
challenges that we are headed
[54:26]
into next year, it is important
[54:27]
to understand the city's
[54:30]
tenuous finances and to
[54:31]
the extent that new savings or
[54:32]
budget mitigate budget
[54:35]
mitigations are not identified,
[54:36]
the city MAY be forced to tap
[54:37]
into its general fund reserves
[54:41]
which while currently funded at
[54:41]
$207 million are already below
[54:45]
policy targets.
[54:46]
To the extent the appropriation
[54:47]
requests that are in
[54:47]
the mid-year are necessary for
[54:50]
continue to operations we
[54:51]
support them But we also
[54:51]
suggest that Council MAY wish
[54:55]
to ask about the need to make
[54:56]
additional appropriations to
[54:56]
departments that are already
[55:00]
trending over budget especially
[55:00]
given the imminent need for
[55:01]
budget cuts as we head into our
[55:05]
fy 2027 Council MAY also wish
[55:06]
to ask for more specifics about
[55:06]
potential current year
[55:07]
mitigations that the city could
[55:10]
implement that could begin to
[55:11]
address that looming f y 27
[55:12]
deficit that will need to be
[55:14]
closed.
[55:15]
>> With that my team and I are
[55:16]
also all available for
[55:16]
questions.
[55:19]
All right.
[55:20]
>> Thank you Charles for
[55:21]
the good work of you and your
[55:25]
office Always very helpful.
[55:26]
>> With that, Clark, please
[55:26]
proceed with public comment.
[55:27]
Thank you.
[55:30]
Council PRESIDENT I have no
[55:31]
speakers here in council
[55:32]
chambers to speak to this item
[55:34]
I'm going to those
[55:35]
participating remotely started
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the five minute timer.
[55:36]
We have three people in
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the queue starting with Blair
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Beekman.
[55:40]
You'll have two minutes Please
[55:44]
proceed after that is 8780 813
[55:44]
then 7499.
[55:49]
Blair Please proceed.
[55:49]
>> All right.
[55:50]
Thank you.
[55:50]
Blair Beekman Oh, thanks a lot
[55:53]
for this item.
[55:54]
I guess for myself I can go
[55:55]
over some regular talking
[55:55]
points I've been offering
[55:58]
lately.
[55:59]
Hopefully they won't be tedious
[55:59]
but good reminders of things we
[56:03]
can be doing at this time to
[56:08]
begin to again offer.
[56:08]
Paula Kruger has been
[56:09]
mentioning fairly regularly for
[56:13]
a while now that in talking
[56:14]
about the parking issues about
[56:18]
ball park the revenues from
[56:18]
the parking new parking issues
[56:19]
isn't going to about a park
[56:23]
fund it's going into
[56:24]
the general fund And I think we
[56:28]
have to be very clear on that
[56:28]
narrative.
[56:29]
If he's accurate we can't be
[56:33]
fibbing about the kind of
[56:34]
efforts we have to be honest
[56:35]
with ourselves in how we're
[56:38]
talking about the budget as a
[56:38]
full community process.
[56:39]
The work I do with tech
[56:43]
accountability is the same
[56:43]
thing.
[56:44]
We just have to be honest and
[56:47]
direct in how we have our
[56:48]
dialog on these on the subject
[56:48]
matter.
[56:49]
But whether a mistake you made
[56:52]
I hope you can make up and all
[56:53]
is forgiven.
[56:53]
It's just a matter that we can
[56:57]
talk clearly about the subject
[56:57]
matter.
[56:58]
Good luck on those efforts.
[56:58]
It's a full community process
[57:01]
and cutting people out of it
[57:02]
isn't the way to work.
[57:06]
With that said I
[57:06]
congratulations that the police
[57:11]
department is working on
[57:11]
overtime issues fairly well.
[57:12]
I've heard in previous
[57:16]
committee reports there at $5
[57:16]
million less in overtime costs
[57:21]
than last year.
[57:22]
So that's a hearty
[57:22]
congratulations.
[57:23]
Keep up those sort of good
[57:25]
efforts.
[57:26]
Thank you for that.
[57:30]
I do believe parking above
[57:31]
ballpark issues again can
[57:35]
really seriously be cut in half
[57:35]
from what the fees are now and
[57:36]
you can still bring in a pretty
[57:40]
significant revenue.
[57:41]
I hope that can be considered
[57:41]
in the future for both resident
[57:44]
and nonresident issues And good
[57:45]
luck in looking into Oakland
[57:50]
how they're working their
[57:50]
deficit programs And then you
[57:51]
can work the same sort of
[57:52]
programs that respect social
[57:54]
services.
[57:55]
Your time has concluded There
[57:56]
are five speakers in the queue
[57:58]
still 8781 three If you can
[58:01]
please unmute 8700.
[58:06]
>> Thank you Joyce Any other cd
[58:07]
I'll start with the Department
[58:11]
of Finance Expenditure to
[58:11]
succeed revenue.
[58:12]
That's so simple isn't it?
[58:16]
And so basic question Is it
[58:21]
appropriate to end the fiscal
[58:21]
year with a negative budgeting
[58:22]
fund balance?
[58:26]
I'm thinking of best practices
[58:31]
and policies KPIs kpi, kpi and
[58:31]
we're calling to you
[58:36]
performance and analytics.
[58:36]
Remember what you did when you
[58:37]
shadowed the pudi You brought
[58:40]
in sunlight.
[58:41]
You are so great in this work.
[58:46]
Let's do the kpi, let's get it
[58:47]
done penned and now love to you
[58:55]
Please my like big time new
[58:56]
overtime monitoring process
[59:00]
allows for greater command
[59:01]
oversight and control.
[59:04]
Well those two cs command and
[59:05]
control Congratulations Entire
[59:10]
department at 23% or 6.8
[59:14]
million and overtime dollars
[59:14]
for the neighborhood policing
[59:15]
division Chief Ball
[59:19]
congratulate Asians on this.
[59:20]
Remember when you came out of
[59:21]
the gate I hope I get this
[59:24]
right.
[59:25]
You said at the top of
[59:26]
the priority list was the word
[59:30]
trust and the work of doing
[59:30]
that.
[59:31]
So I would love to It's
[59:33]
probably hard to speak to it so
[59:34]
subjective but I would love to
[59:35]
get a report from you on that.
[59:42]
Now moving to the ib a 16.8
[59:43]
million g f budgetary deficit
[59:48]
projection somewhat uncertain
[59:52]
so several notable items not
[59:52]
factored into the projections.
[59:57]
More details on
[59:58]
the appropriateness of the g f
[1:00:02]
appropriations as recommended
[1:00:02]
by them.
[1:00:03]
So this was fabulous almost in
[1:00:07]
our this this was fabulous.
[1:00:08]
Your time has come into it.
[1:00:11]
Thank you.
[1:00:12]
Next is 813 then 7499 after
[1:00:20]
that 8813 please unmute I
[1:00:21]
academy for you star six to
[1:00:25]
unmute.
[1:00:25]
Okay sorry about that.
[1:00:26]
Thank you.
[1:00:30]
Okay so Consuelo here and yeah
[1:00:31]
I'm just uh thank you Blair I
[1:00:33]
totally agree with the first
[1:00:34]
part of what you had to say.
[1:00:38]
>> Um well that was a loaded
[1:00:43]
presentation and I just chimed
[1:00:44]
in so I didn't catch all of it
[1:00:47]
but well I'm just to think
[1:00:48]
about how much money those two
[1:00:51]
things with minimal results as
[1:00:57]
usual But I guess I'm even more
[1:00:58]
saddened that every time I
[1:01:01]
chime into these meetings it's
[1:01:02]
the same people who call in and
[1:01:02]
who are paying attention
[1:01:06]
unfortunately um yeah we've got
[1:01:07]
to do better with that.
[1:01:10]
You guys need to broadcast to
[1:01:11]
the news and people need to
[1:01:15]
start paying attention to how
[1:01:16]
much money's going to places
[1:01:17]
like I said with minimal
[1:01:20]
results.
[1:01:21]
What a shame.
[1:01:22]
Okay, that's all I have to say.
[1:01:25]
Thank you.
[1:01:30]
Next 27499 if you can please
[1:01:31]
unmute 7499 after that is
[1:01:35]
Andrea ebbing Please continue.
[1:01:35]
Bob Kozinski here.
[1:01:38]
I just heard that there's a
[1:01:39]
projected $6 million shortfall.
[1:01:40]
I also heard that the new
[1:01:43]
Balboa Park parking fees are
[1:01:44]
projected to bring in 1.2
[1:01:44]
million.
[1:01:45]
Well gee how much money is
[1:01:48]
the business at Torrey Pines
[1:01:49]
glider port making every year?
[1:01:50]
We know that the new lease has
[1:01:57]
that business paying a whopping
[1:01:57]
$3,412.50 a year.
[1:01:58]
But what are they bringing in
[1:01:58]
every year?
[1:02:01]
Joe LaCava Do you know has that
[1:02:02]
business reported their income
[1:02:03]
to anyone in this city in
[1:02:06]
the last decade?
[1:02:07]
The last reporting of their
[1:02:07]
income that I could find was
[1:02:10]
from 2010, 11 and 12.
[1:02:11]
The figures for those three
[1:02:17]
years were 1.1 million 1.28
[1:02:17]
9,000,001.361 million
[1:02:18]
respectively.
[1:02:19]
And those numbers were from
[1:02:19]
over ten years ago.
[1:02:22]
Have you heard of inflation?
[1:02:23]
They could easily be bringing
[1:02:24]
in over $1.5 million a year in
[1:02:24]
2026.
[1:02:28]
So if you subtract $2,400 in
[1:02:31]
rent from about $1.5 million
[1:02:34]
income, you still get about
[1:02:35]
$1.5 million income every year.
[1:02:36]
That would more than cover all
[1:02:40]
the money you're expecting from
[1:02:40]
Balboa Park parking That would
[1:02:41]
cover nearly one tenth of
[1:02:42]
the projected shortfall.
[1:02:45]
All the city has to do is run
[1:02:46]
their own glide report and
[1:02:47]
collect collect the profit for
[1:02:50]
the city instead of giving it
[1:02:50]
to a private business.
[1:02:51]
But neither Joe LaCava nor Todd
[1:02:55]
Gloria will touch that
[1:02:55]
business.
[1:02:55]
Why is that?
[1:02:56]
Joe LaCava What kind of
[1:02:59]
corruption squeezes every
[1:03:00]
dollar out of citizens while
[1:03:01]
giving away our multimillion
[1:03:01]
dollar park to a private
[1:03:04]
business to make money?
[1:03:05]
If people wonder why they
[1:03:05]
should care about the glider
[1:03:06]
port they should remember this
[1:03:09]
analysis every time they're
[1:03:10]
paying to park in our own
[1:03:14]
Balboa Park.
[1:03:14]
>> That's it.
[1:03:15]
Thank you.
[1:03:15]
Next is Andrea Ebbing then
[1:03:19]
Katherine Douglas.
[1:03:19]
The five minute timer did
[1:03:20]
conclude there were three
[1:03:21]
people in the queue with their
[1:03:24]
hand raised.
[1:03:24]
>> No additional speakers will
[1:03:25]
be taken.
[1:03:25]
Andrea please proceed.
[1:03:29]
My this is Andrea ebbing.
[1:03:29]
That's a great thing that we
[1:03:33]
speed's down 6 million and over
[1:03:37]
time projected That's great.
[1:03:38]
I, I wanted to once again bring
[1:03:42]
up other pay.
[1:03:43]
I haven't heard anybody discuss
[1:03:44]
other pay in the entire year
[1:03:47]
except for me from the city
[1:03:47]
standpoint.
[1:03:48]
So I don't really know how we
[1:03:52]
can get those answers again On
[1:03:52]
Transparent California it shows
[1:03:56]
that city employees were paid
[1:03:57]
$152 million of other pay in
[1:04:01]
the year 2020 for which doesn't
[1:04:02]
appear to be pension benefits
[1:04:06]
regular pay or any form of
[1:04:07]
benefits.
[1:04:11]
So it's like fringe benefits is
[1:04:12]
152 million for city employees.
[1:04:15]
What is that fringe benefit?
[1:04:20]
We're very curious about that.
[1:04:21]
I am concerned about one You
[1:04:22]
know, I've heard some
[1:04:25]
projections and estimations but
[1:04:26]
I didn't hear anything about
[1:04:26]
some of our programs like
[1:04:30]
the Family Justice Center,
[1:04:30]
which was a city initiative for
[1:04:36]
decades And then recently as of
[1:04:36]
this last year I guess Summer
[1:04:39]
Stephan our district attorney
[1:04:40]
who's a county employee took it
[1:04:40]
over.
[1:04:44]
So I don't know how that plays
[1:04:45]
out and what you know how we
[1:04:46]
factor in any of that money.
[1:04:49]
But there was a massive issue
[1:04:50]
when Mara Elliott was running
[1:04:50]
it that the Union-Tribune had
[1:04:54]
picked up on the fact that they
[1:04:55]
weren't actually licensed to
[1:04:55]
operate in the state of
[1:04:56]
California and money was being
[1:04:59]
filtered through it.
[1:04:59]
So that is a place we should
[1:05:00]
probably look for money if we
[1:05:08]
need money and the reduced
[1:05:09]
revenue and increased budget
[1:05:12]
deficit is concerning
[1:05:13]
especially with the Balboa Park
[1:05:13]
parking situation.
[1:05:17]
It looks like some people have
[1:05:18]
taken it upon themselves to
[1:05:19]
continuously vandalize these
[1:05:22]
parking meters and that's very
[1:05:23]
expensive.
[1:05:27]
So all in all and in attendance
[1:05:27]
is down.
[1:05:28]
>> Very concerning But thank
[1:05:28]
you.
[1:05:32]
That's all.
[1:05:33]
Katherine Douglas if you can
[1:05:33]
please unmute.
[1:05:35]
After that is 1384 Katherine
[1:05:35]
Douglas.
[1:05:36]
>> Shout out to the San Diego
[1:05:39]
Police Department under
[1:05:40]
the leadership of Chief Wall
[1:05:45]
and he certainly deserves
[1:05:45]
credit.
[1:05:46]
So does everybody else on his
[1:05:49]
team because I have seen
[1:05:50]
the concerted effort that they
[1:05:54]
have made to save the to stay
[1:05:55]
within their budget And over
[1:05:59]
time I only hope that other
[1:06:00]
departments will do the same
[1:06:05]
thing and keep pace with what
[1:06:05]
the San Diego Police Department
[1:06:06]
has been able to accomplish.
[1:06:11]
Thank you.
[1:06:11]
Thank you.
[1:06:12]
And next our final speaker is
[1:06:13]
1384.
[1:06:21]
Please unmute.
[1:06:22]
Hello Ernie Casco La Hoya
[1:06:26]
resident senior pilot Another
[1:06:26]
shady deal at Torrey Pines
[1:06:30]
ahead report the complaint is
[1:06:30]
well documented on your desk.
[1:06:31]
We have a proven solution known
[1:06:35]
as the San Diego recreational
[1:06:36]
waiver that would end
[1:06:36]
the dispute.
[1:06:40]
It's time for transparency to
[1:06:40]
stop the corruption within your
[1:06:41]
own admission administration.
[1:06:45]
Joe LaCava your leaseholder is
[1:06:45]
caught.
[1:06:46]
It is illegal to turn our
[1:06:50]
freedom into a privilege for a
[1:06:50]
license and a fee under any
[1:06:54]
terms circumstances or
[1:06:54]
condition.
[1:06:55]
I should not be forced to sign
[1:06:58]
a leaseholder waiver when
[1:06:59]
the city liabilities are
[1:06:59]
already covered by California
[1:07:03]
recreational laws.
[1:07:04]
This is misappropriation of
[1:07:04]
public funding going into a
[1:07:08]
private account and needs to be
[1:07:08]
fully audited for transparency.
[1:07:13]
City The San Diego Recreational
[1:07:14]
Waiver stops city lease over
[1:07:17]
internal corruption and revise
[1:07:17]
by revising the permanent
[1:07:21]
reinstatement of Torrey Pines
[1:07:22]
Advisory Board with unanimous
[1:07:27]
support from every one as a
[1:07:27]
proven solution.
[1:07:32]
This needs to be done for
[1:07:32]
public safety, safety and
[1:07:36]
oversight and would end
[1:07:37]
the dispute.
[1:07:37]
The San Diego recreational
[1:07:42]
waiver secures city city
[1:07:42]
liabilities, restores
[1:07:43]
recreational fee freedom and
[1:07:46]
addresses the victim and
[1:07:47]
witnesses who have been damaged
[1:07:48]
and assaulted within a timely
[1:07:51]
fashion.
[1:07:52]
It's a win for city
[1:07:52]
liabilities, restores
[1:07:53]
recreational rights and
[1:07:56]
freedoms for years to come.
[1:07:57]
It's the best decision City
[1:08:01]
Council and you could make Joe
[1:08:01]
LaCava.
[1:08:02]
If you want me to walk away you
[1:08:06]
are blatantly blatantly robbing
[1:08:06]
America.
[1:08:07]
The City Council is still
[1:08:08]
liable and needs to address
[1:08:11]
the victims and witnesses who
[1:08:11]
have been damaged.
[1:08:16]
Thank.
[1:08:17]
>> Thank you.
[1:08:17]
And that concludes all
[1:08:18]
the comment on this item.
[1:08:18]
All right.
[1:08:20]
Thank you, City Clerk.
[1:08:21]
And with that we will turn it
[1:08:22]
over to council members for
[1:08:26]
questions, comments and
[1:08:26]
entertain a motion And we'll
[1:08:27]
start with the chair of
[1:08:27]
the Budget Committee.
[1:08:31]
Council Member foster Thank
[1:08:31]
you.
[1:08:36]
Council PRESIDENT And thank you
[1:08:37]
staff for the presentation and
[1:08:41]
also thank you to the ipa.
[1:08:42]
We did have an opportunity to
[1:08:45]
hear this report in the Budget
[1:08:46]
and Government Efficiency
[1:08:47]
Committee so I'm going to keep
[1:08:50]
my comments brief as I did have
[1:08:51]
an opportunity to provide some
[1:08:55]
feedback There as I'd like to
[1:08:55]
hear from my colleagues that do
[1:08:56]
not sit on the committee and
[1:08:59]
allow them to have the time
[1:08:59]
that they need.
[1:09:04]
I do have one question in
[1:09:04]
the aba's report under
[1:09:05]
conclusion the last bullet kind
[1:09:08]
of said Hey, Council MAY wish
[1:09:09]
to request more details on
[1:09:09]
the appropriateness of
[1:09:14]
the general fund appropriations
[1:09:15]
I guess the question is to
[1:09:15]
the impacted departments is
[1:09:18]
there not an opportunity to
[1:09:19]
absorb say cost overruns that
[1:09:20]
are being projected or that we
[1:09:24]
are seeing in this midyear?
[1:09:28]
If you can answer that quickly
[1:09:29]
and if there's any opportunity
[1:09:30]
or if we need to take a look at
[1:09:34]
it and get back to us.
[1:09:34]
Yeah, we did address that These
[1:09:38]
appropriation reallocations are
[1:09:39]
not addressing the entire over
[1:09:39]
budget projections in those
[1:09:40]
departments.
[1:09:43]
It's only doing a portion of
[1:09:43]
it.
[1:09:44]
We are expecting them to find
[1:09:47]
other mitigation actions within
[1:09:48]
their operations.
[1:09:48]
>> Okay.
[1:09:52]
And I, I, I guess you know
[1:09:53]
short answer you know of course
[1:09:57]
i'm looking forward to third
[1:09:58]
quarter monitoring which just
[1:09:59]
gives us a little more
[1:10:02]
certainty as we work to close
[1:10:03]
out this current budget cycle.
[1:10:06]
So with that council PRESIDENT
[1:10:07]
I will move staff's
[1:10:07]
recommendation.
[1:10:11]
Thank you.
[1:10:11]
Thank you, sir.
[1:10:12]
So we do have a motion by
[1:10:16]
Councilmember Foster to move
[1:10:17]
the staff recommendation and
[1:10:17]
we'll go next to Council
[1:10:18]
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee who
[1:10:21]
accidently got knocked off
[1:10:21]
the lights.
[1:10:22]
>> That's okay.
[1:10:22]
Thanks, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:10:26]
And like our budget chair
[1:10:27]
Councilmember Foster, we did
[1:10:27]
discuss this at budget and
[1:10:31]
government efficiency.
[1:10:31]
So I'll try to keep my comments
[1:10:32]
short as well.
[1:10:34]
I think for me there's just
[1:10:35]
three things that are really on
[1:10:38]
my mind that I thought I would
[1:10:39]
at least vocalize today.
[1:10:40]
One is just the fact that
[1:10:44]
the council approved the final
[1:10:45]
budget that I know included
[1:10:49]
some budgetary cuts that have
[1:10:50]
to date still not been
[1:10:50]
implemented.
[1:10:53]
And as I understand them will
[1:10:54]
not be implemented.
[1:10:55]
And that is just as we look for
[1:10:58]
anything something hard for us
[1:10:59]
not to continue thinking about
[1:11:00]
how we move forward in terms of
[1:11:02]
the council's authority with
[1:11:03]
the budget.
[1:11:03]
Second, I recognize that a
[1:11:08]
chunk of the revenue shift in
[1:11:09]
the midyear is allocated to
[1:11:13]
baseball park parking.
[1:11:14]
And to that I will only note
[1:11:15]
that much of the changes that
[1:11:18]
you think have occurred to
[1:11:18]
the program since it was first
[1:11:19]
implemented have largely been
[1:11:22]
focused on either reducing or
[1:11:23]
now to this point making free
[1:11:27]
parking for residents.
[1:11:28]
And if that is the case I will
[1:11:32]
only leave the question that
[1:11:33]
given that shift in the revenue
[1:11:37]
assumptions, what does that say
[1:11:37]
about how much the city was
[1:11:38]
relying on charging residents
[1:11:41]
in order to get revenue for
[1:11:42]
public park?
[1:11:43]
And then finally as we look
[1:11:47]
forward to the budget, we know
[1:11:48]
this is going to be a
[1:11:48]
challenging time.
[1:11:49]
I appreciate in recognizing
[1:11:51]
that there have been some
[1:11:51]
shifts since the report was
[1:11:52]
first compiled that put us in a
[1:11:53]
better position than what we
[1:11:55]
started.
[1:11:56]
And as we look towards any
[1:11:57]
reductions, whether it's in
[1:12:00]
the mid-year or into the next
[1:12:01]
year's budget, I would hope
[1:12:02]
that again we will consider
[1:12:05]
what the impact might be on
[1:12:06]
front line employees.
[1:12:06]
And recognizing that we cannot
[1:12:09]
simply have them shoulder
[1:12:10]
greater burden of the same
[1:12:10]
level of services that we must
[1:12:14]
provide as a city with markedly
[1:12:15]
less resources.
[1:12:19]
So with that I will go ahead
[1:12:20]
and second the motion.
[1:12:20]
>> Thank you, Chair.
[1:12:21]
All right.
[1:12:21]
Thank you, sir.
[1:12:22]
So we have a motion by
[1:12:24]
Councilmember Foster in a
[1:12:25]
second by Council PRESIDENT Pro
[1:12:26]
Tem Lee to move the staff
[1:12:26]
recommendation.
[1:12:28]
We'll go next to council member
[1:12:29]
Campbell.
[1:12:30]
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:12:34]
I must continue to stress that
[1:12:38]
passing a balanced budget is
[1:12:39]
one of our most fundamental
[1:12:39]
responsibilities as council
[1:12:43]
members as it is our job to
[1:12:48]
ensure that expenditures do not
[1:12:48]
exceed revenues.
[1:12:53]
The midyear report before us is
[1:12:54]
a direct result of last year's
[1:12:58]
shortfalls and revenue over
[1:12:58]
projections.
[1:13:03]
Deficit spending forces
[1:13:03]
difficult corrective actions
[1:13:08]
later and makes it harder to
[1:13:12]
protect the core services that
[1:13:13]
our residents rely on.
[1:13:14]
These fiscal realities must be
[1:13:18]
taken into account as a
[1:13:22]
foundation as we move toward
[1:13:22]
adopting a fiscal year 27
[1:13:23]
budget.
[1:13:23]
Thank you.
[1:13:27]
Council PRESIDENT.
[1:13:28]
All right.
[1:13:29]
Thank you, Councilmember Kemp
[1:13:29]
for those good words.
[1:13:31]
We'll go next to Councilmember
[1:13:32]
Whipple.
[1:13:33]
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:13:33]
I will just offer a comment on
[1:13:37]
Chief Wall's report.
[1:13:37]
I am glad to see that
[1:13:38]
the Neighborhood Policing
[1:13:42]
Division is on budget and I
[1:13:42]
want to thank the chief for
[1:13:47]
having the Academy graduating
[1:13:48]
classes engage with
[1:13:48]
the neighborhood police and I
[1:13:49]
think that is vital.
[1:13:52]
A significant number of
[1:13:52]
the police department's calls
[1:13:53]
involve people experiencing
[1:13:57]
homelessness So having officers
[1:13:57]
learn how to effectively
[1:13:58]
interact with the homeless
[1:14:01]
population and help them get
[1:14:02]
into services is crucial.
[1:14:02]
And we are seeing the benefits
[1:14:06]
of that in many areas.
[1:14:07]
Most recently we got updated
[1:14:08]
homelessness numbers from
[1:14:11]
the San Diego riverbed.
[1:14:12]
People living in the riverbed
[1:14:16]
has been a huge problem in a
[1:14:17]
couple of different ways.
[1:14:17]
Obviously it's unsafe.
[1:14:18]
We've seen people swept away
[1:14:21]
when the river rises during
[1:14:22]
storms but it's also
[1:14:22]
unsanitary.
[1:14:26]
According to the San Diego
[1:14:27]
River Park Foundation, 65% of
[1:14:28]
the trash in the San Diego
[1:14:32]
River is attributed to people
[1:14:32]
living in the riverbed which
[1:14:36]
obviously has environmental
[1:14:37]
consequences.
[1:14:41]
But the most recent
[1:14:42]
homelessness count in the San
[1:14:42]
Diego River was the lowest that
[1:14:46]
it has been in years And many
[1:14:46]
of the people who are leaving
[1:14:51]
the riverbed are going to our
[1:14:52]
safe sleeping sites which are
[1:14:55]
much safer And obviously much
[1:14:56]
healthier.
[1:14:56]
So there are a lot of different
[1:14:57]
elements of our homelessness
[1:15:00]
system that work together and
[1:15:01]
we are seeing the results.
[1:15:02]
And I want to thank the chief
[1:15:05]
and the department for its
[1:15:06]
contribution to that effort.
[1:15:06]
>> Thank you.
[1:15:07]
Council PRESIDENT.
[1:15:10]
All right.
[1:15:10]
Thank you.
[1:15:11]
Council member Whitburn not
[1:15:12]
seeing anybody else on
[1:15:15]
the lights.
[1:15:16]
I'll offer a few thoughts and
[1:15:16]
thank you.
[1:15:19]
Council member Foster for
[1:15:20]
deferring to those of us not at
[1:15:24]
Budget Committee.
[1:15:25]
So I want to thank Department
[1:15:25]
of Finance and our cfo for
[1:15:29]
the very good work that they do
[1:15:30]
every year putting the report
[1:15:33]
together, comparing their
[1:15:34]
projections to the reality and
[1:15:35]
trying to put it together in a
[1:15:39]
way that even us council
[1:15:39]
members can possibly understand
[1:15:43]
given the complexity of how we
[1:15:43]
the city operates.
[1:15:44]
Thank you to the Office of
[1:15:48]
the Independent Budget Analyst
[1:15:48]
for your insight and analysis.
[1:15:49]
It's good to have the two
[1:15:50]
different perspectives put in
[1:15:52]
front of us.
[1:15:53]
And as others have said, thank
[1:15:54]
you Chief, for the very good
[1:15:57]
work.
[1:15:57]
You made a lot of bold promises
[1:16:01]
and you clearly have delivered
[1:16:02]
without compromising public
[1:16:02]
safety.
[1:16:03]
>> So we owe you a debt of
[1:16:07]
gratitude.
[1:16:08]
And you know, as was said, I
[1:16:11]
also want to take this
[1:16:12]
opportunity to talk a little
[1:16:12]
bit about overtime.
[1:16:13]
Fire rescue is in a position
[1:16:16]
where they have to respond when
[1:16:17]
there is an emergency and there
[1:16:21]
is not much you can say about
[1:16:21]
that.
[1:16:22]
While we can continue to
[1:16:26]
control and I know Chief Logan
[1:16:27]
didn't make the promises that
[1:16:27]
chief while did but I think he
[1:16:31]
did keep a share a sharp eye on
[1:16:32]
that And I know some of that
[1:16:35]
will be reimbursed at a later
[1:16:36]
time And even in transportation
[1:16:37]
when we listen to our
[1:16:40]
constituents complain about
[1:16:41]
sidewalk cracks, potholes and
[1:16:45]
street lights being out there
[1:16:46]
has been a remarkable shift in
[1:16:50]
transportation being able to
[1:16:50]
accelerate and respond to that.
[1:16:51]
I think the conversation about
[1:16:55]
our community parking districts
[1:16:56]
was really a game changer in
[1:17:00]
that conversation.
[1:17:01]
And if we can just get
[1:17:01]
transportation out of
[1:17:04]
the business of dig alerts and
[1:17:05]
get them focused on what our
[1:17:06]
constituents want, we'll do
[1:17:06]
even better.
[1:17:08]
But I appreciate everybody in
[1:17:09]
transportation and what you've
[1:17:10]
been able to do with
[1:17:14]
the resources we have provided
[1:17:14]
you.
[1:17:15]
I've said on multiple occasions
[1:17:18]
I stand ready to docket early
[1:17:18]
actions to course correct and
[1:17:19]
generate savings to balance
[1:17:23]
this year's budget and get a
[1:17:24]
jump on cuts necessary to
[1:17:25]
balance the f y 27 budget.
[1:17:28]
And I'll continue to voice that
[1:17:28]
commitment.
[1:17:29]
The mid-year budget monitoring
[1:17:33]
report is one rather limited
[1:17:33]
way for the Council to weigh in
[1:17:34]
on the budget outside of
[1:17:37]
the formal budget adoption
[1:17:38]
process we do in JUNE.
[1:17:39]
And I recognize that the mayor
[1:17:42]
has used his executive
[1:17:43]
authority to require mitigation
[1:17:43]
measures and I know that
[1:17:47]
department directors are taking
[1:17:47]
this budget crisis very
[1:17:48]
seriously.
[1:17:48]
We cannot predict or control
[1:17:52]
for everything.
[1:17:52]
The report highlights a
[1:17:57]
predicted difficult reality of
[1:17:58]
the 16.7 and for a change we
[1:17:58]
actually got a series of good
[1:18:02]
news which feels like we've
[1:18:03]
really been lagging over
[1:18:07]
the past several months.
[1:18:08]
So I appreciate that reporting
[1:18:12]
And we're now getting down from
[1:18:15]
16.7 to 1.8 starting third
[1:18:16]
quarter and fourth quarter to
[1:18:16]
navigate.
[1:18:17]
>> But at least it feels like
[1:18:22]
we're on the right track.
[1:18:23]
>> Budgeting for our cities
[1:18:27]
needs a complex balance of cash
[1:18:28]
flow, long range planning and
[1:18:29]
of course addressing those
[1:18:29]
emergencies.
[1:18:33]
I applied Department of Finance
[1:18:33]
for navigating this difficult
[1:18:34]
work.
[1:18:34]
This is a year for tough
[1:18:37]
conversations and a need for
[1:18:37]
much greater scrutiny.
[1:18:38]
And I think me and my council
[1:18:42]
colleagues will dig in probably
[1:18:42]
a little bit deeper than we
[1:18:43]
have in the past going forward.
[1:18:47]
So I have a couple of questions
[1:18:47]
I want to build on
[1:18:51]
Councilmember Foster's comments
[1:18:52]
So for the good news that we
[1:18:56]
got in, how much of that is
[1:18:56]
actually ongoing revenue that
[1:19:01]
we can use to predict for f y
[1:19:02]
27 how much of it is one time
[1:19:05]
that the insurance recovery I
[1:19:09]
suspect is a one time dollar
[1:19:09]
amount?
[1:19:10]
>> That's correct.
[1:19:10]
Thank you.
[1:19:11]
Council PRESIDENT.
[1:19:14]
So 8 million for the old
[1:19:14]
Central Library insurance
[1:19:17]
proceeds is one time
[1:19:18]
the revised sdg any franchise
[1:19:22]
fee of 6 million is ongoing
[1:19:22]
The revised sales tax and
[1:19:27]
the total sales tax was an
[1:19:27]
increase of 2.6 total is a
[1:19:31]
decrease of about 400,000.
[1:19:32]
That's considered ongoing.
[1:19:32]
And then finally the Balboa
[1:19:36]
Park parking update of-1.2
[1:19:40]
that's considered ongoing as
[1:19:41]
well.
[1:19:41]
>> Okay.
[1:19:42]
And I guess I do want to be
[1:19:44]
careful because sometimes we
[1:19:45]
think of one time as kind of a
[1:19:49]
bad use but the insurance we
[1:19:49]
spent the 8 million already to
[1:19:50]
repair the library if I
[1:19:54]
understand correctly And now
[1:19:54]
we're finally getting that
[1:19:55]
insurance proceeds.
[1:19:58]
So it's not always a bad thing
[1:19:59]
What about the appropriations
[1:20:00]
that we're making?
[1:20:04]
How much how many of those are
[1:20:04]
one time or do we actually
[1:20:05]
anticipate they'll be ongoing
[1:20:09]
That will be added to our f y
[1:20:13]
26 baseline.
[1:20:14]
It is a combination of one time
[1:20:18]
and ongoing.
[1:20:18]
We can provide you details how
[1:20:22]
that breaks out afterwards.
[1:20:23]
>> We don't have that right.
[1:20:27]
Okay that'll be good to know
[1:20:28]
Again to inform us as we start
[1:20:31]
thinking ahead about our fy 27
[1:20:31]
going forward.
[1:20:32]
You know, I appreciate
[1:20:35]
the question of Councilmember
[1:20:36]
Foster, our budget chair in
[1:20:41]
terms of department's ability
[1:20:41]
to absorb these costs And as
[1:20:42]
you mentioned, there MAY be
[1:20:45]
additional overages that we'll
[1:20:46]
have to figure out how to
[1:20:47]
navigate those as we understand
[1:20:50]
them.
[1:20:50]
To your point of whether they
[1:20:55]
are ongoing or one time cost
[1:20:56]
but in order to keep the wheels
[1:21:00]
on the bus so to speak, it's
[1:21:01]
the time that we do have those
[1:21:05]
additional savings that we can
[1:21:06]
allocate to which I will admit
[1:21:06]
causes me a little bit of
[1:21:10]
heartburn But on the other hand
[1:21:10]
we have to pay our bill.
[1:21:11]
Some of these I'm sure are
[1:21:13]
invoiced items that vendors are
[1:21:19]
expecting payment for that and
[1:21:23]
I always like to be careful
[1:21:24]
because the job that
[1:21:27]
the Department of Finance does
[1:21:28]
when you look at them as line
[1:21:29]
items you think really we
[1:21:32]
really missed out.
[1:21:33]
But against $2 billion in
[1:21:37]
the total they are a pretty
[1:21:38]
small percentage And the kinds
[1:21:39]
of things that will just kind
[1:21:42]
of sneak through literally
[1:21:43]
pennies on the dollar compared
[1:21:43]
to the total budget.
[1:21:47]
So I appreciate the challenges
[1:21:48]
of trying to manage every
[1:21:51]
single aspect everything that
[1:21:52]
is built in in terms of cost of
[1:21:57]
living increases in our various
[1:21:57]
contracts etc. Continues to be
[1:22:01]
a challenge going forward.
[1:22:02]
I also kind of wanted to
[1:22:07]
mention a little bit about Bell
[1:22:07]
part which is an ongoing
[1:22:08]
painful conversation.
[1:22:11]
This council did try to
[1:22:11]
accelerate Bell Ballpark by an
[1:22:15]
additional porter that didn't
[1:22:16]
happen That certainly caused
[1:22:20]
some of that reduction in cost
[1:22:21]
The MARCH update which I had
[1:22:24]
thought was about a $700,000
[1:22:25]
hit to the projected revenue I
[1:22:28]
guess you're predicting 1.2
[1:22:29]
million now And it's also I
[1:22:33]
think important to remind folks
[1:22:33]
this is just what we're getting
[1:22:37]
an f y 26 We're learning a lot
[1:22:41]
from this f y 27 Some people
[1:22:41]
have different ideas but can
[1:22:45]
actually be a full year worth
[1:22:46]
of revenue and perhaps some
[1:22:51]
stabilization in the operation
[1:22:52]
And I know there'll be more
[1:22:52]
conversation in that regard by
[1:22:55]
some individuals but I did want
[1:22:56]
to point that the difference
[1:22:57]
out there So this was a pretty
[1:23:00]
fundamental change.
[1:23:01]
Thoughtful predictions were put
[1:23:05]
together How do we actually
[1:23:06]
solve some of the issues as
[1:23:06]
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[1:23:10]
said about the impact on
[1:23:11]
residents?
[1:23:11]
We're all I think very
[1:23:12]
carefully navigated in
[1:23:15]
the conversation.
[1:23:16]
>> So I'll close there.
[1:23:20]
I'll be supporting the motion.
[1:23:25]
I appreciate your detail and
[1:23:25]
other thing I'll close with
[1:23:26]
I've got to keep saying one
[1:23:32]
more thing but there's a lot of
[1:23:33]
things for people can be
[1:23:33]
frustrated about.
[1:23:36]
But I think just in the five
[1:23:37]
years that I've been in office
[1:23:39]
and the 1520 years that I've
[1:23:40]
been paying attention, I don't
[1:23:41]
think there's been more
[1:23:44]
transparency in exactly what
[1:23:45]
our financial condition is,
[1:23:46]
whether it is the general fund
[1:23:49]
budget, whether it is
[1:23:50]
the capital improvement
[1:23:51]
program, the kinds of numbers
[1:23:54]
that we're exposing could have
[1:23:55]
easily been exposed 20 years
[1:23:56]
ago and just never were And
[1:23:59]
maybe decisions would have been
[1:23:59]
differently and adjustments
[1:24:00]
would have been made over
[1:24:04]
the years rather than us
[1:24:05]
scrambling now that it's so
[1:24:05]
much more front and center.
[1:24:08]
So thank you all for that good
[1:24:09]
work.
[1:24:10]
So with that we have a motion
[1:24:13]
by Council member Foster and a
[1:24:14]
second by Council PRESIDENT Pro
[1:24:15]
Tem Lee to move the staff
[1:24:16]
recommendation.
[1:24:21]
Clerk Please call the vote I'm
[1:24:22]
sorry the voting system Please
[1:24:22]
cast your vote.
[1:24:24]
Council member Ella Rivera My
[1:24:29]
apologies if you have your own
[1:24:33]
>> That passes unanimously 7 to
[1:24:34]
0 with Councilmember Campo and
[1:24:34]
Council member Von Wilpert
[1:24:38]
Absent.
[1:24:39]
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:24:39]
All right.
[1:24:40]
Thank you And thank you to all
[1:24:43]
the directors and chiefs that
[1:24:43]
the stood ready for any
[1:24:44]
questions we might throw at
[1:24:44]
you.
[1:24:48]
So with that.
[1:24:49]
>> Clerk please introduce item
[1:24:52]
201 Item 2a1 is the creation of
[1:24:53]
an annual allocation for
[1:24:53]
the Convention Center
[1:24:57]
Modernization projects.
[1:24:58]
And approval of the fiscal year
[1:24:58]
26 itemized budget for
[1:25:02]
the Convention Center revenue
[1:25:02]
account under Measure c.
[1:25:03]
If you'd like to speak to this
[1:25:04]
item, now's the time to raise
[1:25:07]
your hand by pressing Star nine
[1:25:08]
or the raise your hand icon.
[1:25:11]
And if you are here in person
[1:25:12]
please submit your speaker slip
[1:25:13]
to the front of the room in
[1:25:13]
the clear box.
[1:25:13]
Thank you.
[1:25:16]
Council PRESIDENT.
[1:25:17]
All right, staff.
[1:25:17]
Now that you're settled in,
[1:25:18]
please introduce yourselves for
[1:25:19]
the record and let us know how
[1:25:21]
much time you need.
[1:25:22]
>> Okay.
[1:25:22]
Good afternoon.
[1:25:23]
Council Kristin LaCava.
[1:25:26]
Council members I'm elected and
[1:25:27]
director of Engineering and
[1:25:28]
Capital Projects Department.
[1:25:30]
We will need ten minutes.
[1:25:30]
All right.
[1:25:31]
Joining me today is Dominique
[1:25:34]
Dawes, interim deputy director
[1:25:35]
with ecp staff from the city
[1:25:36]
attorney's office and
[1:25:40]
the department of Finance are
[1:25:40]
also in attendance Support
[1:25:41]
item.
[1:25:44]
Before we start, I would like
[1:25:44]
to acknowledge the San Diego
[1:25:45]
Convention Center Corporation
[1:25:49]
staff.
[1:25:50]
MR. Cushman, special advisor to
[1:25:53]
the mayor and Rania mann Chief
[1:25:54]
Community Services Officer.
[1:25:54]
For their collaboration,
[1:25:58]
support and guidance in
[1:25:59]
bringing this item forward I
[1:26:03]
would like to add that we are
[1:26:04]
in receipt of today's San Diego
[1:26:07]
County Lodging Association
[1:26:08]
letter and understand Chair
[1:26:09]
Gleason's remarks at Gleason's
[1:26:12]
remarks made at the api
[1:26:13]
committee.
[1:26:13]
We appreciate their
[1:26:17]
constructive suggestions and
[1:26:17]
look forward to their
[1:26:18]
participation along with other
[1:26:22]
representatives of the hospital
[1:26:23]
hospitality industry in our
[1:26:27]
stakeholder engagement process
[1:26:28]
is soon to take place while
[1:26:29]
making sure that we stay
[1:26:32]
compliant with our commitment
[1:26:33]
under the settlement agreement
[1:26:33]
with Fifth Avenue Landing.
[1:26:37]
Now I will turn it over to
[1:26:38]
Dominique to present the item.
[1:26:38]
Thank you, Leif.
[1:26:42]
Dominique deals with
[1:26:43]
engineering capital projects.
[1:26:45]
Here to speak about item 2a1
[1:26:46]
the creation of the annual
[1:26:46]
allocation of the Convention
[1:26:47]
Center modernization projects
[1:26:53]
and approval of the 2026 budget
[1:26:54]
So it's a brief summary of
[1:26:55]
the requested actions.
[1:26:55]
One we are looking to approve
[1:26:58]
the annualized annual Adams
[1:26:59]
budget for fy 2026 for
[1:27:00]
the Convention Center revenue
[1:27:00]
account.
[1:27:03]
Also we're looking to authorize
[1:27:04]
the cfo to add a new line in
[1:27:05]
the cityscape for
[1:27:05]
the Convention Center
[1:27:08]
Improvements.
[1:27:08]
And lastly we're looking to
[1:27:11]
have the cfo authorize to
[1:27:12]
transfer roughly 2020 $1.4
[1:27:15]
million from business area 19
[1:27:16]
one three to the new newly
[1:27:17]
created scope line item to
[1:27:17]
initiate the modernization
[1:27:20]
projects.
[1:27:26]
The portion of the projected
[1:27:26]
measure c total revenues are
[1:27:27]
shown in this table.
[1:27:30]
These numbers account for
[1:27:30]
the 59% allocation of
[1:27:31]
the overall duty revenues that
[1:27:35]
are allocated Allocated
[1:27:35]
specifically to the Convention
[1:27:36]
Center.
[1:27:39]
The proposed actions today seek
[1:27:40]
to the authority to appropriate
[1:27:41]
a portion of these revenues for
[1:27:44]
the modernization projects
[1:27:48]
Roughly 21.4 of the 45.6
[1:27:49]
million in projected revenue.
[1:27:53]
>> The identified modernization
[1:27:54]
projects are shown here in
[1:27:57]
the table in yellow.
[1:27:58]
The larger projects we're
[1:27:59]
looking to focus on are
[1:28:02]
the roof replacement and
[1:28:03]
the overhaul of the central
[1:28:04]
plant that supports facility.
[1:28:07]
All projects considered for fy
[1:28:14]
2026 are roughly $21.4 million
[1:28:15]
As a brief background for
[1:28:15]
the facility.
[1:28:16]
The convention center was
[1:28:19]
originally erected back in 1989
[1:28:20]
and underwent a major expansion
[1:28:20]
in 2001.
[1:28:24]
Increasing the total usable
[1:28:25]
square footage to approximately
[1:28:26]
two point 6,000,000ft.
[1:28:29]
The structure is primarily a
[1:28:30]
cast place concrete structure
[1:28:34]
with precast elements.
[1:28:34]
The major building systems
[1:28:35]
include a central chilled water
[1:28:38]
plant large air handling units,
[1:28:39]
gas fired boilers and emergency
[1:28:39]
generators.
[1:28:43]
The operational context for
[1:28:44]
the facility is that it's a
[1:28:44]
high use mission critical
[1:28:45]
public facility requiring
[1:28:47]
limited downtime.
[1:28:52]
>> Historic funding has focused
[1:28:53]
on operations and debt service
[1:28:53]
unfortunately leaving
[1:28:54]
insufficient funding for long
[1:28:57]
term capital renewals.
[1:28:58]
Increasing system failures of
[1:28:59]
the recent include boilers and
[1:29:02]
chillers, electrical
[1:29:02]
infrastructure, plumbing and
[1:29:03]
the most recent rain events
[1:29:04]
that we've experienced the past
[1:29:07]
couple of months.
[1:29:08]
>> The roof leaks to
[1:29:11]
the facility while the facility
[1:29:12]
remains functional.
[1:29:12]
It is aging and requires
[1:29:13]
capital investment to maintain
[1:29:17]
its class-a standards.
[1:29:17]
The projects we're looking to
[1:29:18]
undertake would seek to limit
[1:29:21]
the service disruptions and
[1:29:22]
also quell the potential safety
[1:29:23]
concerns that have been
[1:29:26]
identified.
[1:29:30]
Back in 2022 the Convention
[1:29:31]
Center hired a third party to
[1:29:35]
conduct a property condition
[1:29:36]
assessment without getting too
[1:29:36]
technical.
[1:29:37]
That condition assessment
[1:29:40]
yields a facility condition
[1:29:41]
index fci which is really just
[1:29:45]
the cost for repairs to
[1:29:46]
the total cost of replacement.
[1:29:49]
As that number trends towards
[1:29:49]
one you're looking for you're
[1:29:50]
looking towards a full
[1:29:51]
replacement of the facility f
[1:29:54]
fy 2020 2020 two's assessment
[1:29:58]
yielded about.023 is the rating
[1:30:01]
and extrapolating that to 2026
[1:30:02]
that rating increased 2.035.
[1:30:03]
So right now we're at an
[1:30:06]
opportune time to really imbue
[1:30:06]
capital into the into
[1:30:07]
the facility to get it back in
[1:30:10]
Right standing that that
[1:30:14]
assessment also identified
[1:30:15]
approximately 244,000,000 in
[1:30:16]
2022 for 25 your capital needs
[1:30:18]
when you account for the 5%
[1:30:18]
inflation.
[1:30:22]
That number is roughly 453
[1:30:22]
million.
[1:30:27]
The strategy for these cp
[1:30:28]
modernization projects that
[1:30:28]
we're bringing forward are
[1:30:31]
looking to prioritize critical
[1:30:32]
life safety and operational
[1:30:32]
systems, restore near-term
[1:30:36]
reliability and reduce risk
[1:30:37]
reduction for the facility
[1:30:37]
overall.
[1:30:38]
It's essentially a multiyear
[1:30:41]
modernization with goals in
[1:30:41]
sustainability and energy
[1:30:46]
energy efficiency.
[1:30:46]
>> Again, a quick summary of
[1:30:47]
the actions that we're bringing
[1:30:50]
forward today.
[1:30:51]
>> We're looking to approve
[1:30:52]
the analyzed itemized budget
[1:30:56]
for fy 2026 for the Convention
[1:30:56]
Center revenue account,
[1:30:57]
authorize the cfo to create a
[1:31:00]
new line item recipe for
[1:31:00]
the convention center
[1:31:01]
improvements.
[1:31:02]
And then lastly authorize
[1:31:06]
the cfo to transfer that
[1:31:06]
roughly $21.4 million from
[1:31:09]
business Area nine and one
[1:31:10]
three to the newly created cp
[1:31:10]
line item for these
[1:31:14]
modernization projects.
[1:31:15]
You can open it to the group
[1:31:18]
for questions.
[1:31:19]
>> All right.
[1:31:19]
Thank you very much for
[1:31:20]
the presentation.
[1:31:21]
Clerk Please proceed with
[1:31:22]
public comment.
[1:31:23]
Thank you.
[1:31:23]
Council PRESIDENT We do have
[1:31:27]
some speakers here and
[1:31:28]
Administrator and Robert
[1:31:28]
Gleason if you can please come
[1:31:33]
forward and send me on Strether
[1:31:40]
is okay You submitted 4 to 1.
[1:31:48]
Yeah This is item two one to
[1:31:49]
you not want to speak to
[1:31:50]
the modernization fund?
[1:31:57]
Sure.
[1:31:58]
Hey good afternoon everybody My
[1:32:01]
name is and said Magic Estrada
[1:32:02]
,political director for
[1:32:02]
the San Diego Building and
[1:32:03]
Construction Trades Council.
[1:32:06]
I'm here to ask that you move
[1:32:07]
forward with staff
[1:32:08]
recommendation on this item.
[1:32:10]
I'll see you in a couple of
[1:32:11]
minutes for 2 or 2 as well.
[1:32:12]
But you know, I don't want to
[1:32:14]
get in my comments there but
[1:32:15]
thank you so much.
[1:32:15]
>> Thank you.
[1:32:19]
After that is Robert Gleason.
[1:32:20]
>> Good afternoon.
[1:32:21]
Council PRESIDENT Council
[1:32:21]
members Robert Gleason I'm
[1:32:24]
the chair of the San Diego
[1:32:25]
County Lodging Association.
[1:32:25]
You received our letter this
[1:32:30]
morning and I spoke to those of
[1:32:30]
you on the committee previously
[1:32:34]
So I just want to reiterate a
[1:32:34]
few points here.
[1:32:35]
Obviously recognize
[1:32:39]
the situation that the city is
[1:32:40]
in in and want to move forward.
[1:32:43]
But as the last remaining
[1:32:43]
member of the coalition that
[1:32:44]
actually negotiated and wrote
[1:32:48]
and put measure c on the ballot
[1:32:49]
amongst hotels, labor council
[1:32:53]
building trades and the chamber
[1:32:54]
I'm the only person I'll hear
[1:32:55]
from today that can and just
[1:32:58]
want to caution about the use
[1:32:58]
of these funds.
[1:32:59]
This measure was never intended
[1:33:02]
to be a source.
[1:33:03]
It was meant to be a source of
[1:33:04]
new revenue for homelessness
[1:33:08]
programs, streets and
[1:33:08]
convention center repairs.
[1:33:09]
Using it for anything other
[1:33:12]
than that is not what
[1:33:13]
the measure says.
[1:33:13]
It's definitely not what
[1:33:14]
the measure intended and it's
[1:33:17]
absolutely not what was sold to
[1:33:18]
the voters.
[1:33:18]
What's being proposed today is
[1:33:22]
deferred maintenance and it's
[1:33:22]
disappointing that this is
[1:33:23]
the first use of funds from
[1:33:26]
Measure c.
[1:33:27]
However, all that being said,
[1:33:31]
the convention center has very
[1:33:32]
significant deferred
[1:33:32]
maintenance.
[1:33:36]
The city under previous
[1:33:37]
administrations and previous
[1:33:37]
councils and continued through
[1:33:41]
these has been underfunding
[1:33:42]
those capital needs for many,
[1:33:42]
many years.
[1:33:43]
So as I've learned to say in
[1:33:46]
therapy both things are true.
[1:33:47]
We need to address the deferred
[1:33:51]
maintenance but we need to
[1:33:52]
really focus on the ultimate
[1:33:56]
expansion and modernization of
[1:33:56]
the convention center.
[1:33:57]
So assuming you move this
[1:34:00]
forward today, I'd ask you to
[1:34:01]
keep an eye particularly in
[1:34:02]
the upcoming budget
[1:34:02]
conversations to make sure that
[1:34:06]
measure c funds are used as
[1:34:06]
intended not for deferred
[1:34:07]
maintenance, not for operation,
[1:34:11]
not for sales, not for
[1:34:11]
marketing but for new
[1:34:12]
homelessness programs and
[1:34:12]
ultimately for the expansion
[1:34:15]
and modernization of
[1:34:16]
the Convention center in order
[1:34:16]
to keep with public trust and
[1:34:18]
the trust of the voters.
[1:34:23]
>> Thank you.
[1:34:24]
>> Thank you.
[1:34:24]
That does conclude public
[1:34:25]
comment here in council
[1:34:26]
chambers one of those
[1:34:28]
participating remotely
[1:34:29]
currently have five people with
[1:34:33]
their hands raised 8700 if you
[1:34:33]
can please unmute after that Is
[1:34:34]
Andrea Ebbing and then Blair
[1:34:36]
Brickman Okay.
[1:34:37]
>> Excuse me.
[1:34:42]
Thank you Joyce Any other
[1:34:42]
district three City Clerk How
[1:34:43]
much time do I have?
[1:34:46]
>> We'll reset the clock for
[1:34:46]
two minutes.
[1:34:47]
>> Thank you for resetting.
[1:34:51]
I appreciate that so much.
[1:34:51]
Okay.
[1:34:52]
I like what that gentleman just
[1:34:52]
said.
[1:34:56]
I might not agree with
[1:34:56]
everything just the way it was
[1:34:57]
worded but I especially like
[1:35:01]
the caution on the use of
[1:35:01]
the funds.
[1:35:02]
And so we need oversight.
[1:35:06]
We need transparent and say and
[1:35:07]
we need monitoring.
[1:35:11]
You know we have to remember
[1:35:12]
and this is new stuff so I'm
[1:35:13]
seeing right this minute but we
[1:35:15]
have to remember that things
[1:35:15]
have to be tweaked.
[1:35:16]
Things will change.
[1:35:20]
You know, it was said a certain
[1:35:21]
way and the measure and now we
[1:35:25]
might be tweaking it That's
[1:35:25]
okay.
[1:35:26]
You know, things do change.
[1:35:27]
You're moving targets all over
[1:35:30]
the place So let's not get too
[1:35:31]
locked into the wording on a
[1:35:31]
measure.
[1:35:35]
Let's work together on this.
[1:35:36]
I didn't plan on saying that.
[1:35:40]
So if dcc certainly a great
[1:35:45]
asset we we have fallen short
[1:35:45]
though for a long time on
[1:35:49]
safety factors.
[1:35:50]
You know where was
[1:35:54]
the prevention of this deferred
[1:35:54]
maintenance?
[1:35:55]
It happened over time and it's
[1:35:58]
just so sad.
[1:36:02]
I just I feel very sad about it
[1:36:03]
And one other thing I love
[1:36:04]
the PowerPoint but boy, did it
[1:36:07]
go over my head.
[1:36:08]
I think you had to be a
[1:36:12]
PRESIDENT LaCava or you know a
[1:36:13]
professor or I mean somebody
[1:36:13]
who understands all that
[1:36:14]
language.
[1:36:17]
So one question as I finish out
[1:36:21]
here is a generator the same
[1:36:22]
thing as a boiler because you
[1:36:25]
know, I'm fighting I'm I'm
[1:36:26]
trying to heal the big canary
[1:36:27]
with the band covered with
[1:36:31]
the Band-Aids which is known as
[1:36:31]
the boiler.
[1:36:35]
So I just pray and as if
[1:36:35]
the boiler be part of
[1:36:36]
the mineralization it's
[1:36:40]
deferred maintenance big time.
[1:36:41]
So is a generator or a boiler?
[1:36:41]
I don't know.
[1:36:45]
I try to look it up on Google
[1:36:46]
and it said they can be
[1:36:50]
confused So thank you so much
[1:36:50]
and it's a great great report
[1:36:54]
And for that concluding comment
[1:36:55]
Andrea Ebbing if you can please
[1:36:56]
unmute after that.
[1:36:59]
Blair Beckman I Andrea are
[1:36:59]
being so for the modernization
[1:37:03]
project I'm wondering this MAY
[1:37:08]
not be part of this budget, it
[1:37:09]
MAY actually exist and I don't
[1:37:10]
know about it but we used to
[1:37:12]
have Converse Convention
[1:37:13]
Visitors Bureau I think to
[1:37:17]
complement any upgrades or
[1:37:18]
anything we're doing we need to
[1:37:22]
attract people to So if there's
[1:37:23]
any portion of that budget that
[1:37:27]
can be used to collaborate and
[1:37:28]
come up with initiatives to
[1:37:28]
attract additional business
[1:37:33]
coming to San Diego for more
[1:37:33]
conventions, more room nights,
[1:37:34]
that sort of thing that would
[1:37:37]
be so helpful.
[1:37:37]
i think we need to like
[1:37:38]
consider a campaign to kind of
[1:37:42]
like you turn from like San
[1:37:43]
Diego is the drop off for all
[1:37:47]
the rejects and addicts and all
[1:37:48]
this stuff that's kind of like
[1:37:49]
importing addicts from all over
[1:37:51]
the country and how they're
[1:37:52]
homeless.
[1:37:52]
Let's give them Narcan that
[1:37:53]
whole that whole thing We can
[1:37:56]
kind of shift away from that
[1:37:57]
into like let's have your
[1:38:01]
amazing conventions in San
[1:38:02]
Diego room nights, patronize
[1:38:06]
our nightclubs and restaurants
[1:38:06]
and all of the different
[1:38:07]
offerings that we have and
[1:38:07]
events.
[1:38:11]
I think you know a portion of
[1:38:12]
an investment toward that to
[1:38:16]
complement the upgrades would
[1:38:17]
be great upgrade the technology
[1:38:21]
obviously the parking situation
[1:38:21]
there is a little wild But
[1:38:26]
anyways I appreciate overview
[1:38:26]
and that's it Thanks.
[1:38:32]
>> Next is player Beakman if
[1:38:32]
you can please unmute and then
[1:38:34]
the final speaker is 8813.
[1:38:38]
>> Hi thank you for Beakman
[1:38:39]
Thanks for this item It's been
[1:38:43]
coming to council committee
[1:38:44]
over the past few months now
[1:38:48]
the last time was the committee
[1:38:48]
heard Joyce Snyder wasn't
[1:38:49]
around and I was just really I
[1:38:53]
spoke a public comment time
[1:38:54]
would be nice to hear Joyce on
[1:38:54]
this item because it's really
[1:38:58]
important to her and it's nice
[1:38:58]
she's returned and able to
[1:38:59]
offer her $0.02 on the item.
[1:39:02]
Very nice public comment from
[1:39:03]
the first person that he's very
[1:39:07]
nicely identified What this
[1:39:07]
project is actually doing and
[1:39:11]
how it relates to measure c
[1:39:11]
funding.
[1:39:16]
Um yeah I hope this sort of
[1:39:16]
project can be funded to have
[1:39:17]
an identification of wordage of
[1:39:21]
what it is actually doing
[1:39:24]
That's important and good luck
[1:39:25]
From there we can be funding
[1:39:26]
this legally and and working in
[1:39:30]
good terms.
[1:39:31]
Thank you for the work on this
[1:39:34]
that you'll be talking about in
[1:39:35]
the next item in connection
[1:39:40]
with play work and just
[1:39:40]
the overall project of it.
[1:39:41]
I always try to say for
[1:39:45]
convention center items that if
[1:39:46]
you work on the tech
[1:39:46]
accountability practices and
[1:39:50]
upgrades with the convention
[1:39:50]
center you know have clear
[1:39:54]
policies that make it a real
[1:39:54]
cooperative shared process that
[1:39:55]
will bring people to
[1:39:59]
the convention center, that
[1:39:59]
will bring people to San Diego.
[1:40:00]
They want to be around that
[1:40:01]
sort of thing and feel
[1:40:04]
comforted by it and to
[1:40:05]
understand what are best
[1:40:08]
practices of public
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accountability, I think people
[1:40:10]
will want to see that and
[1:40:14]
that's a very important source
[1:40:14]
draw in the future.
[1:40:15]
So good luck to yourselves in
[1:40:16]
considering that sort of
[1:40:18]
concept and working in good
[1:40:19]
terms as a as a community
[1:40:22]
process and not just as a
[1:40:23]
government handing down
[1:40:23]
dictates.
[1:40:24]
>> Thanks a lot.
[1:40:24]
Bye bye.
[1:40:27]
And 8813 If you can please
[1:40:32]
unmute I can't commute for you.
[1:40:40]
Start There you go.
[1:40:41]
Okay thank you for being
[1:40:41]
patient.
[1:40:42]
Okay Going here?
[1:40:47]
>> Yep.
[1:40:47]
Uh yeah.
[1:40:48]
This presentation.
[1:40:52]
Yeah I agree Joy It's uh it is.
[1:40:53]
It's designed to go over
[1:40:57]
the people's heads because they
[1:40:58]
truly don't want the taxpayers
[1:40:58]
understanding what the city is
[1:41:02]
being wasteful there And um
[1:41:02]
yeah.
[1:41:06]
Anyways, okay, expansion and
[1:41:07]
modernization just more waste.
[1:41:12]
Uh, the convention center MAY
[1:41:13]
need to be up to date but not
[1:41:16]
at the real I'm not at
[1:41:17]
the sacrifice of real
[1:41:18]
priorities and issues of
[1:41:21]
the city and it's it's kind of
[1:41:22]
like wow, I don't know.
[1:41:26]
I just feel like if more people
[1:41:27]
were paying attention to how
[1:41:31]
you guys go about using
[1:41:31]
taxpayer money, it would be a
[1:41:32]
whole lot different.
[1:41:36]
But yeah, deferred maintenance
[1:41:37]
there's nothing you know you
[1:41:41]
guys are notorious for deferred
[1:41:46]
maintenance and you know, like
[1:41:47]
I said, real priorities and
[1:41:50]
the real issues of the city's
[1:41:51]
need to be um the priority.
[1:41:55]
I mean and it's like me wanting
[1:41:56]
to invest in plastic surgery,
[1:41:56]
you know, when my kids are
[1:42:00]
starving and my toilet's don't
[1:42:01]
flush, you know what I'm
[1:42:01]
saying?
[1:42:01]
Like come on.
[1:42:05]
But yes, here we are in
[1:42:06]
the system ruled by
[1:42:10]
the establishment and uh,
[1:42:11]
people that just want to
[1:42:13]
surviving and not thriving.
[1:42:19]
That's the game.
[1:42:19]
I'm done.
[1:42:20]
Thank you.
[1:42:24]
Well, there you go And great.
[1:42:25]
>> So that concludes with a
[1:42:25]
comment on item two.
[1:42:26]
A one Thank you.
[1:42:28]
Council PRESIDENT All right.
[1:42:28]
Thank you.
[1:42:29]
City clerk will turn it over to
[1:42:30]
council members Questions,
[1:42:33]
comments entertain a motion and
[1:42:34]
we'll start with Council member
[1:42:34]
Whitburn.
[1:42:35]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:42:35]
I'll make the motion to approve
[1:42:38]
this staff recommendation.
[1:42:39]
We heard this at the Act of
[1:42:39]
Transportation and
[1:42:40]
Infrastructure Committee late
[1:42:40]
last month.
[1:42:42]
It passed unanimously.
[1:42:43]
These funds will address urgent
[1:42:47]
needs at the convention center
[1:42:48]
today that will allow San Diego
[1:42:49]
to remain a competitive
[1:42:52]
convention destination with a
[1:42:53]
well functioning facility.
[1:42:54]
But I also will say that we
[1:42:57]
need to get on with
[1:42:57]
the business of expanding
[1:42:58]
the convention center as soon
[1:43:02]
as we can.
[1:43:02]
We need to expand
[1:43:03]
the convention center if we're
[1:43:03]
going to keep some of
[1:43:04]
the conventions that we
[1:43:07]
currently have if we're going
[1:43:07]
to attract bigger ones.
[1:43:08]
The public expects us to expand
[1:43:11]
the convention center.
[1:43:11]
So let's make the needed
[1:43:15]
upgrades with today's action
[1:43:16]
and at the same time keep our
[1:43:17]
eye on the ultimate prize which
[1:43:20]
is an expanded convention
[1:43:21]
center which will keep San
[1:43:21]
Diego in the top tier of
[1:43:25]
convention destinations.
[1:43:26]
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:43:26]
All right.
[1:43:30]
That was a motion in there made
[1:43:30]
the motion upfront.
[1:43:31]
>> Yes.
[1:43:31]
To approve the staff
[1:43:32]
recommendation.
[1:43:35]
I'm distraught that I forgot to
[1:43:36]
introduce you as a chair of
[1:43:36]
the Active Transportation
[1:43:37]
Infrastructure Committee.
[1:43:39]
Well, so focus But we do have a
[1:43:40]
motion by Council member
[1:43:41]
Whitburn to move the staff
[1:43:41]
recommendation.
[1:43:42]
We'll go next to council member
[1:43:44]
Campbell Thank you.
[1:43:45]
Council PRESIDENT Thank you for
[1:43:48]
the motion.
[1:43:49]
As one of the few remaining
[1:43:53]
standing who in the original
[1:43:57]
iteration of this way back in
[1:43:58]
2000 I don't know if there's
[1:44:02]
any council members left who
[1:44:03]
voted for it and who supported
[1:44:07]
it at that time But I know I
[1:44:08]
did And those were the days
[1:44:12]
those were days when
[1:44:12]
the Republicans and
[1:44:13]
the Democrats worked together.
[1:44:16]
Those were the days when
[1:44:17]
the unions and the Chamber of
[1:44:18]
Commerce worked together.
[1:44:22]
Those were the days And this
[1:44:22]
was an excellent, excellent
[1:44:23]
measure that was passed
[1:44:27]
approved by all the citizens of
[1:44:27]
the city who voted for it,
[1:44:31]
which was a majority.
[1:44:32]
And unfortunately litigation
[1:44:33]
has stopped it going forward
[1:44:36]
for five years, which indicates
[1:44:41]
to me that we need to we need
[1:44:41]
to fix up our judicial system
[1:44:46]
But that's a whole other can of
[1:44:46]
worms.
[1:44:50]
So let me just say that I am so
[1:44:51]
glad that we have finally
[1:44:51]
reached the end of
[1:44:52]
the litigation point.
[1:44:55]
We're going to move forward
[1:44:55]
with this.
[1:44:56]
It's going to be an excellent
[1:45:00]
addition to our armamentarium
[1:45:01]
to keep our city growing and
[1:45:05]
progressing and I am grateful
[1:45:05]
for it.
[1:45:06]
>> I'm happy to second
[1:45:06]
the motion.
[1:45:07]
All right.
[1:45:10]
Thank you, Council member
[1:45:11]
Campbell.
[1:45:11]
So we have a motion by Council
[1:45:13]
member Whitburn and a second by
[1:45:14]
Council member Campbell to move
[1:45:15]
a staff recommendation.
[1:45:19]
I don't see anybody else on
[1:45:20]
the light.
[1:45:20]
>> I will not add any comments
[1:45:24]
to the good work that you're
[1:45:24]
doing.
[1:45:25]
I am grateful despite some of
[1:45:28]
the concerns that we are moving
[1:45:29]
quickly now that the litigation
[1:45:30]
has been cleared to figure out
[1:45:33]
how to spend that money and
[1:45:34]
move on these items, I want to
[1:45:38]
make sure that if and when
[1:45:38]
the conversation comes about
[1:45:43]
modernization or even expansion
[1:45:44]
that there is actually a
[1:45:44]
convention center there to work
[1:45:45]
with that And at the pace we're
[1:45:48]
going there is some real risk
[1:45:48]
there.
[1:45:53]
So with that for those of us
[1:45:53]
that are not more intimately
[1:45:57]
involved in the conversation,
[1:45:58]
what is the timeline that we
[1:46:02]
can talk about expansion We
[1:46:02]
can't do that now.
[1:46:03]
>> Correct?
[1:46:03]
The city attorney's office will
[1:46:06]
comment on it.
[1:46:07]
Yes.
[1:46:07]
Senior Deputy City Attorney
[1:46:08]
Kevin Rush The settlement
[1:46:12]
agreement prohibitions are in
[1:46:13]
effect through the end of this
[1:46:13]
calendar year so the city is
[1:46:16]
freed up to publicly discuss
[1:46:21]
expansion and take actions in
[1:46:22]
that regard starting next year.
[1:46:22]
Okay.
[1:46:23]
Thank you, Jim for that
[1:46:26]
clarification and let folks
[1:46:26]
know what timelines might be
[1:46:31]
possible going forward.
[1:46:31]
And also just to confirm
[1:46:32]
the allocation, this is cash.
[1:46:36]
We're not bonding.
[1:46:37]
We're just using the money that
[1:46:41]
is in the bank for this.
[1:46:41]
>> That's correct.
[1:46:42]
Council member Okay, great.
[1:46:43]
Thank you for clarifying that.
[1:46:43]
All right.
[1:46:46]
Again we have a motion by
[1:46:47]
council member Whitburn,
[1:46:47]
the second by Council member
[1:46:48]
Campbell to move the staff
[1:46:51]
recommendation clerk Please
[1:46:51]
call the roll I'm sorry
[1:46:52]
the voting system Please cast
[1:46:52]
your vote.
[1:46:53]
>> Council Member Yellow River
[1:46:54]
If I MAY get your vote for
[1:46:55]
the record.
[1:47:04]
>> Yes.
[1:47:08]
That passes unanimously 6 to 0
[1:47:09]
with Council member Moreno,
[1:47:10]
Council member Campo and a
[1:47:12]
Council member Von Wilpert
[1:47:12]
absent.
[1:47:13]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[1:47:13]
right.
[1:47:17]
Thank you for that.
[1:47:18]
>> With that clerk please
[1:47:21]
introduce item 202 Item two two
[1:47:21]
is the third addendum to
[1:47:26]
the third amended and restated
[1:47:26]
management agreement between
[1:47:27]
the City of San Diego and
[1:47:28]
the San Diego Convention Center
[1:47:30]
Corporation Inc and
[1:47:31]
the designation of specific
[1:47:31]
future Convention Center
[1:47:35]
Capital Improvement Projects as
[1:47:36]
covered projects under
[1:47:36]
the Project Labor Agreement.
[1:47:37]
If you'd like to speak to this
[1:47:41]
item please be sure to submit
[1:47:42]
your speaker slip to the front
[1:47:43]
of the room in the clear box or
[1:47:45]
if you're participating
[1:47:46]
remotely start nine at
[1:47:47]
the raise your hand icon.
[1:47:47]
Thank you.
[1:47:51]
That we got the same staff but
[1:47:51]
later So introduce yourself for
[1:47:52]
the record again and let us
[1:47:54]
know how much time you need.
[1:47:55]
Good afternoon Council
[1:47:55]
PRESIDENT Like our council
[1:47:59]
members I'm still illiterate in
[1:48:00]
the engineering capital
[1:48:00]
Projects Director And here with
[1:48:05]
me is Dominique Taos, interim
[1:48:05]
Deputy director with the same
[1:48:06]
department.
[1:48:06]
We will need ten minutes
[1:48:07]
please.
[1:48:07]
All right.
[1:48:08]
When you're ready.
[1:48:09]
>> Thank you.
[1:48:14]
Okay, Moving on to item two or
[1:48:14]
to the third Amended to
[1:48:15]
the third.
[1:48:15]
Sorry, Excuse me.
[1:48:18]
The third addendum to the third
[1:48:19]
amended management agreement
[1:48:19]
between the city of San Diego
[1:48:20]
and the City Convention Center
[1:48:22]
Corporation.
[1:48:23]
A quick summary of
[1:48:23]
the requested action we're
[1:48:27]
looking to authorize the mayor
[1:48:28]
or his designee to enter into
[1:48:28]
the proposed addendum and to
[1:48:33]
delegate any of the p projects
[1:48:33]
to the Convention Center
[1:48:34]
Corporation.
[1:48:36]
We're looking also to have
[1:48:37]
the cfo authorized to transfer
[1:48:38]
funds from the revenue fund to
[1:48:41]
the specific c ip projects.
[1:48:42]
And then finally a resolution
[1:48:42]
identifying the convention
[1:48:43]
Center capital improvement
[1:48:46]
projects as part of the covered
[1:48:47]
projects listing in the prior
[1:48:48]
established Project Labor
[1:48:49]
Agreement the city put in place
[1:48:55]
back in FEBRUARY of 2020 for
[1:48:55]
this.
[1:49:00]
>> So the original agreement
[1:49:00]
the third amended and restated
[1:49:01]
management agreement went into
[1:49:04]
place in MAY 20th, 2005.
[1:49:05]
There was a first addendum to
[1:49:07]
that agreement in MARCH 2nd,
[1:49:08]
2012.
[1:49:08]
This allowed the Convention
[1:49:12]
Center Corporation to enter
[1:49:13]
into third party marketing and
[1:49:14]
promotion agreements and also
[1:49:14]
address the allocation of
[1:49:17]
annual operating surplus funds
[1:49:21]
Later that year there was a
[1:49:22]
second addendum in NOVEMBER
[1:49:22]
2012 that was executed after
[1:49:23]
the Convention Center
[1:49:26]
Corporation entered into a
[1:49:27]
third party marketing agreement
[1:49:28]
and then it closed the loophole
[1:49:31]
for the surplus fund allocation
[1:49:31]
leaving that allocation to go
[1:49:32]
back to the regular annual
[1:49:36]
budgeting process.
[1:49:36]
Currently the framework between
[1:49:37]
the Convention Center
[1:49:38]
Corporation and the City of San
[1:49:41]
Diego has the Convention center
[1:49:42]
operating as a day to day
[1:49:46]
operator or the convention
[1:49:46]
center as an independent
[1:49:47]
contractor.
[1:49:47]
They are responsible for event
[1:49:51]
booking and marketing facility
[1:49:51]
operations and maintenance,
[1:49:52]
financial admin and
[1:49:53]
coordination of capital
[1:49:56]
improvements.
[1:49:56]
They are subject to the city's
[1:49:57]
oversight and funding approval
[1:50:00]
and the agreement currently
[1:50:01]
defines governance, financial
[1:50:02]
reporting and roles to support
[1:50:02]
the economic development and
[1:50:05]
tourism.
[1:50:10]
>> This third addendum that
[1:50:10]
we're bringing forth today I
[1:50:11]
like a few key changes.
[1:50:14]
One being the clarifying
[1:50:14]
provisions that is a
[1:50:15]
requirement of prevailing wages
[1:50:18]
per state law, establishment of
[1:50:19]
a reimbursement process and
[1:50:19]
compliance with all laws,
[1:50:20]
permits and approvals.
[1:50:23]
And then ensuring that any San
[1:50:24]
Diego Convention Center
[1:50:25]
Corporation contract includes
[1:50:28]
the city as and specified
[1:50:28]
parties as additional insured
[1:50:29]
and indemnified and also
[1:50:33]
requires payment and
[1:50:33]
performance bonds for those
[1:50:34]
construction contracts
[1:50:34]
Additionally will be looking to
[1:50:38]
look into establish a
[1:50:38]
delegation process.
[1:50:39]
This would allow the city to
[1:50:40]
delegate contracting oversight
[1:50:43]
of certain types of projects to
[1:50:44]
the Convention Center
[1:50:44]
Corporation via individual
[1:50:48]
delegation agreements.
[1:50:48]
The mayor then is authorized to
[1:50:49]
enter into these agreements
[1:50:52]
setting the city's maximum
[1:50:53]
contribution based off of
[1:50:54]
Council's appropriations
[1:50:54]
contracting and oversight
[1:50:58]
requirements.
[1:50:58]
And then ultimately as I
[1:50:59]
mentioned before, these
[1:51:02]
projects will be covered under
[1:51:02]
the prior established project
[1:51:03]
labor agreements under quote
[1:51:07]
unquote covered projects.
[1:51:07]
>> Again, a quick summary of
[1:51:11]
the requested actions.
[1:51:12]
The third addendum would be
[1:51:16]
sort of discard excuse me we
[1:51:16]
will we will be looking to
[1:51:17]
authorize the mayor or designee
[1:51:21]
to enter into the third
[1:51:22]
addendum with the San Diego
[1:51:23]
Convention Center Corporation
[1:51:26]
and allowing any individual
[1:51:27]
delegation agreements for this
[1:51:28]
individual chp projects.
[1:51:30]
We would also look to have
[1:51:31]
the cfo authorized to make any
[1:51:32]
necessary funds transfers to
[1:51:35]
execute those vip projects.
[1:51:36]
And then lastly there would be
[1:51:40]
a resolution identifying these
[1:51:40]
capital improvements projects
[1:51:41]
to be under the covered
[1:51:42]
projects under the city's prior
[1:51:44]
established Project Labor
[1:51:50]
Agreement back in 2024.
[1:51:50]
>> With that I can take
[1:51:51]
questions.
[1:51:51]
All right.
[1:51:52]
Thank you very much for
[1:51:55]
the presentation.
[1:51:55]
>> The Clerk Please proceed
[1:51:56]
with public comment.
[1:52:00]
Thank you.
[1:52:01]
And let me know if you'd like
[1:52:02]
to come forward.
[1:52:02]
I think we got our speaker
[1:52:03]
slips confused.
[1:52:04]
This one says you don't want to
[1:52:05]
speak and the other one did.
[1:52:08]
So that's like I know you speak
[1:52:09]
to both of them.
[1:52:09]
Yeah.
[1:52:13]
Anybody Political director for
[1:52:14]
the San Diego Building and
[1:52:15]
Construction Trades Council.
[1:52:18]
I want to thank you all so much
[1:52:19]
for considering this item at
[1:52:19]
the convention center I
[1:52:20]
mentioned last time.
[1:52:22]
It is a pillar of our economic
[1:52:27]
health of the region and
[1:52:27]
the city and our members of
[1:52:32]
the Building Trades Council to
[1:52:32]
affiliated unions.
[1:52:33]
We bring skilled and trained
[1:52:34]
forward to all the projects we
[1:52:37]
work on and we want to do that
[1:52:37]
for the Convention center.
[1:52:38]
We are happy that moving on
[1:52:41]
moving these projects under
[1:52:42]
the city's play is here for
[1:52:46]
consideration.
[1:52:47]
Councilmember Whitburn as chair
[1:52:47]
you mentioned that San Diego
[1:52:51]
could only get by so long on
[1:52:52]
its good looks and we need a
[1:52:53]
convention center that kind of
[1:52:53]
matches that And I don't need
[1:52:55]
to tell anybody here just what
[1:52:56]
the lack of maintenance has
[1:53:01]
done to the convention center
[1:53:01]
is time for that to get
[1:53:02]
addressed And we're here and
[1:53:03]
ready to do that work.
[1:53:04]
So please approve this item.
[1:53:11]
Thank you so much.
[1:53:11]
>> Thank you.
[1:53:12]
At the five minute time we're
[1:53:13]
hearing council chambers, there
[1:53:13]
are no other speakers here
[1:53:14]
going to those participating
[1:53:18]
remotely starting with 8700 and
[1:53:18]
then 81 three 8700 If you can
[1:53:23]
please unmute a thank you Joyce
[1:53:27]
Any other cd3I think I see MR.
[1:53:31]
Cushman Hello MR. Cushman I
[1:53:32]
know that your work with I
[1:53:36]
don't understand your work with
[1:53:37]
the Convention Center say about
[1:53:41]
that but just having you there
[1:53:41]
is so strong and I appreciate
[1:53:45]
that so much So I approve
[1:53:49]
the changes and I especially
[1:53:50]
like the requiring of
[1:53:55]
the prevailing wages to make
[1:53:56]
sure that it's being done.
[1:54:01]
I for a long time I had him he
[1:54:04]
moved away to another state but
[1:54:05]
for a long time I had
[1:54:06]
conversations with a gentleman
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who worked in the food aspect
[1:54:14]
of the convention center and he
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just loved it.
[1:54:15]
He just loved every single
[1:54:19]
moment of it and so I'm so glad
[1:54:25]
that the a p a is is part of
[1:54:25]
this And you know how much I
[1:54:29]
really enjoy these days looking
[1:54:30]
at the eoc and the workforce
[1:54:34]
reports and but I'll tell you
[1:54:34]
folks we have to do a lot more
[1:54:39]
monitoring and making sure that
[1:54:40]
the under representation is
[1:54:40]
changed and that they are
[1:54:44]
represented and included.
[1:54:48]
So this is this is an important
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item.
[1:54:49]
Thank you for the presentation
[1:54:54]
and look to all 8813 if you can
[1:55:03]
please unmute 88130 okay
[1:55:04]
control over area just me to
[1:55:05]
say remember your priorities
[1:55:12]
city of San Diego and yeah I
[1:55:16]
got to make you really know no
[1:55:17]
I think dedicate it if I can
[1:55:20]
does that conclude your
[1:55:21]
comments Yeah I'm sorry Yes I'm
[1:55:21]
done.
[1:55:25]
Okay Thank you That does
[1:55:25]
conclude public comment on this
[1:55:26]
item.
[1:55:26]
All right.
[1:55:27]
Thank you, City Clerk.
[1:55:27]
And with that we'll turn it
[1:55:30]
over to some members for
[1:55:30]
questions, comments and
[1:55:31]
entertain a motion and we'll
[1:55:35]
start again with the chair of
[1:55:36]
act a Transportation and
[1:55:36]
Infrastructure Committee
[1:55:37]
Council member Whitburn Thank
[1:55:37]
you.
[1:55:40]
Council PRESIDENT I'll make
[1:55:40]
the motion to approve the staff
[1:55:41]
recommendation on this item as
[1:55:41]
well.
[1:55:45]
We also heard this at
[1:55:46]
the Active Transportation and
[1:55:46]
Infrastructure Committee where
[1:55:49]
it was passed unanimously.
[1:55:50]
I am of course pleased that we
[1:55:51]
are designating these projects
[1:55:54]
as covered under the city's
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Project Labor agreement that
[1:55:55]
helps ensure that these
[1:55:56]
projects will create good jobs
[1:56:00]
and that the work will get done
[1:56:00]
right.
[1:56:01]
So again, I'll make the motion
[1:56:01]
to approve the staff
[1:56:02]
recommendation.
[1:56:02]
All right.
[1:56:03]
Thank you.
[1:56:05]
Council members.
[1:56:06]
So we do have a motion by
[1:56:06]
Councilmember Whitburn to move
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The staff recommendation will
[1:56:08]
go next to council member
[1:56:10]
Campbell Thank you Council
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PRESIDENT I am happy to second
[1:56:11]
this motion as well.
[1:56:11]
All right.
[1:56:15]
We have a second So we have now
[1:56:16]
a motion by council member
[1:56:16]
whitburn, the second by Council
[1:56:17]
member Campbell to move
[1:56:19]
the staff recommendation not
[1:56:20]
see anybody else in the lights.
[1:56:24]
A couple of quick questions on
[1:56:25]
this.
[1:56:25]
This will be the first time
[1:56:26]
capital projects at
[1:56:30]
the convention center will be
[1:56:30]
covered under the play.
[1:56:31]
That's correct.
[1:56:35]
And who will be monitoring that
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city's compliance office will
[1:56:40]
be monitoring that with our
[1:56:40]
support as well.
[1:56:40]
>> All right.
[1:56:45]
Even though the good folks at
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the convention center will be
[1:56:46]
contracting, we will monitor
[1:56:51]
the play.
[1:56:51]
Correct.
[1:56:52]
And then that will be handled
[1:56:53]
actually at the delegation
[1:56:53]
agreement that we are going to
[1:56:56]
have on Project by project
[1:56:56]
basis.
[1:56:57]
That will be one of two items
[1:56:58]
as well if I'm not mistaken,
[1:56:58]
correct?
[1:57:01]
That's correct.
[1:57:01]
Okay.
[1:57:02]
And then there will be a
[1:57:02]
conversation between
[1:57:03]
the convention center and their
[1:57:06]
staffing and ecp and the city's
[1:57:06]
staffing.
[1:57:07]
Yes, we have been coordinating
[1:57:11]
leading to this point and we're
[1:57:12]
going to continue coordinating
[1:57:12]
on the best way to deliver
[1:57:13]
these projects.
[1:57:16]
>> Okay.
[1:57:17]
Thank you for that.
[1:57:18]
And then one thing I forgot to
[1:57:19]
ask last time but appropriate
[1:57:21]
this time One of the things
[1:57:22]
that MR. Gleason asked for was
[1:57:26]
for the lodging association to
[1:57:27]
have some representation on
[1:57:27]
kind of an ongoing committee
[1:57:31]
both on capital projects as
[1:57:32]
well as the homelessness.
[1:57:36]
Is that in the works or can we
[1:57:37]
get some one to get back to me
[1:57:38]
later on that the application
[1:57:42]
for the homeless the oversight
[1:57:42]
committee actually just went
[1:57:43]
live And so yes, it is our
[1:57:47]
intent to have representation
[1:57:48]
from Australian Lodging
[1:57:48]
Association on both Both Okay,
[1:57:49]
great.
[1:57:52]
Thank you for confirming that.
[1:57:53]
So so MR. Gleason we do read
[1:57:58]
your letters and appreciate
[1:57:58]
your testimony with that.
[1:57:59]
We do have a motion by
[1:58:02]
Councilmember Whipper and a
[1:58:03]
second by Council member
[1:58:03]
Campbell to move the staff
[1:58:04]
recommendation.
[1:58:07]
>> clerk Please call the roll
[1:58:08]
Councilmember Lerner if I MAY
[1:58:09]
get your vote for the record.
[1:58:15]
Yes.
[1:58:20]
And that passes unanimously 7
[1:58:21]
to 0 with Council member Campo
[1:58:22]
and Councilmember Yvonne
[1:58:22]
Wilpert absent.
[1:58:22]
Thank you.
[1:58:26]
Council PRESIDENT.
[1:58:26]
All right.
[1:58:27]
Thank you And again thank you
[1:58:27]
everybody that worked on
[1:58:28]
bringing this forward.
[1:58:31]
So with that we will now take
[1:58:32]
up non agenda public comment.
[1:58:32]
The council members respect and
[1:58:33]
appreciate the public's input
[1:58:36]
and are fully committed to
[1:58:37]
protecting every participant's
[1:58:37]
free speech rights at council
[1:58:42]
and committee meetings.
[1:58:43]
>> Clerk Please proceed with
[1:58:43]
public comment Pearl 2.7 on
[1:58:44]
agenda Public comment is an
[1:58:54]
opportunity so can you see it
[1:58:54]
on the record?
[1:58:55]
>> Oh I want to cast a yes vote
[1:58:57]
on item 2a1.
[1:58:58]
Thank you.
[1:58:58]
I'll mark that for the record.
[1:58:59]
Thank you very much.
[1:59:02]
Thank Pearl Two points over
[1:59:03]
that agenda.
[1:59:03]
Public comment is an
[1:59:07]
opportunity for members of
[1:59:08]
the public to comment on items
[1:59:08]
that are not on the agenda but
[1:59:09]
within the subject matter
[1:59:12]
jurisdiction of the city
[1:59:13]
Council.
[1:59:13]
Each speaker will have two
[1:59:14]
minutes please And if there are
[1:59:15]
eight or more speakers on a
[1:59:17]
single topic the maximum time
[1:59:18]
for the topic will be 16
[1:59:18]
minutes.
[1:59:19]
I see no non agenda public
[1:59:23]
comments because here in
[1:59:24]
council chambers so I will be
[1:59:27]
going to those participating
[1:59:27]
remotely starting the five
[1:59:28]
minute timer We currently have
[1:59:29]
11 speakers in the queue.
[1:59:33]
Barbara Gordon If you can
[1:59:34]
please unmute after that is
[1:59:34]
Kathleen Lippert and then
[1:59:38]
Brenda thank you.
[1:59:38]
As a public health advocate I
[1:59:42]
wanted to share and newly
[1:59:43]
released Kaiser Permanente
[1:59:44]
study found adolescent cannabis
[1:59:49]
use linked to doubling the risk
[1:59:50]
of psychotic and bipolar
[1:59:53]
disorder.
[1:59:54]
This was published in
[1:59:55]
the Journal of American Medical
[1:59:59]
helped form the Longitudinal
[2:00:00]
study found over 465,000
[2:00:05]
adolescents between the ages of
[2:00:09]
13 and 17 and through the age
[2:00:10]
of 26 found that past year
[2:00:10]
cannabis use during adolescence
[2:00:15]
was associated with a
[2:00:15]
significantly higher risk
[2:00:20]
incident of psychotic bipolar
[2:00:21]
depressive and anxiety disorder
[2:00:26]
Even after accounting for prior
[2:00:27]
mental health conditions and
[2:00:27]
other substance use,
[2:00:28]
adolescents who reported
[2:00:31]
cannabis use had a substantial
[2:00:32]
higher risk of developing
[2:00:33]
psychiatric psychiatric
[2:00:37]
disorders particularly
[2:00:38]
psychotic and bipolar disorder.
[2:00:45]
This was said by Kelly Wolfe
[2:00:45]
Young Wolfe, Ph.D., who was
[2:00:48]
the leading author of the study
[2:00:49]
The study also found that
[2:00:50]
cannabis use was more common
[2:00:54]
among adolescents that were
[2:00:55]
enrolled in Medicare, Medicare,
[2:01:00]
Medicaid and those living in
[2:01:01]
more socioeconomically deprived
[2:01:01]
neighborhoods.
[2:01:05]
Raising the concern that
[2:01:06]
expanding cannabis
[2:01:06]
commercialization could
[2:01:11]
exasperate existing mental
[2:01:12]
health disparities as cannabis
[2:01:12]
becomes more potent and
[2:01:17]
aggressively marketed.
[2:01:18]
This study indicates that
[2:01:19]
adolescent cannabis use is
[2:01:23]
associated with the risk of
[2:01:24]
the two of the most serious
[2:01:24]
health conditions.
[2:01:25]
I am urging the city to take a
[2:01:29]
more aggressive action to limit
[2:01:30]
the exposure of advertising and
[2:01:34]
marketing by prohibiting
[2:01:35]
billboards and the marketing
[2:01:36]
image of marijuana on any
[2:01:36]
signage.
[2:01:41]
Thank you for letting me speak.
[2:01:41]
>> Thank you.
[2:01:42]
Next is Kathleen Lippert.
[2:01:46]
If you can please unmute then
[2:01:47]
it's Brenda.
[2:01:48]
Thank you for letting me speak.
[2:01:51]
I appreciate Councilmember
[2:01:52]
Campbell's reminder that
[2:01:53]
deficit spending is the genesis
[2:01:57]
of future City problems that
[2:01:58]
will become increasingly
[2:01:58]
difficult to deal with in
[2:01:59]
the city's scramble to address
[2:02:04]
their looming deficit.
[2:02:05]
Turn to the will with which it
[2:02:05]
is most familiar and that's
[2:02:09]
increasing taxes and fees
[2:02:09]
without ever any mention of
[2:02:10]
decreasing city staffing levels
[2:02:15]
salaries, pensions or benefits.
[2:02:16]
The burden of a deficit should
[2:02:16]
be the responsibility of city
[2:02:21]
leaders.
[2:02:21]
Cuts begin there before
[2:02:22]
redirecting the burden to
[2:02:23]
taxpayers who had no part in
[2:02:27]
creating it.
[2:02:28]
>> Yet the city continues to
[2:02:28]
maximize expenditures using
[2:02:32]
sole source contracting union
[2:02:33]
workers or supporting
[2:02:33]
industries like the cannabis
[2:02:39]
industry who socialize,
[2:02:39]
privatized their profits and
[2:02:40]
socialize the costs and
[2:02:44]
the socialization of those
[2:02:45]
costs are paid on the backs of
[2:02:50]
the city Residents.
[2:02:51]
>> Most troubling we do not see
[2:02:51]
the city evaluating any of
[2:02:56]
their policies for the future
[2:02:57]
costs of those decisions or
[2:02:57]
recognizing when funding has
[2:03:02]
not resulted in mitigating a
[2:03:02]
problem but instead has shown
[2:03:03]
that it is only created
[2:03:08]
bureaucracy that has grown up
[2:03:09]
to take advantage of the new
[2:03:09]
funding availability.
[2:03:14]
Leadership should be grounded
[2:03:14]
in reality affordability and
[2:03:15]
responsibility and the deficits
[2:03:20]
we see today are a failure at
[2:03:20]
all three of those levels.
[2:03:25]
City policies like its ongoing
[2:03:26]
support of the marijuana
[2:03:26]
industry will continue to
[2:03:27]
increase behavioral health
[2:03:31]
problems.
[2:03:32]
That is not a question anymore.
[2:03:33]
That is a prediction that has
[2:03:37]
been rooted in evidence We
[2:03:38]
have.
[2:03:42]
The California audit found $24
[2:03:43]
billion in homelessness $18
[2:03:48]
billion lost on high speed
[2:03:48]
rail.
[2:03:49]
We need financial literacy and
[2:03:56]
it should begin with the city
[2:03:56]
included.
[2:03:57]
Any additional comments can be
[2:03:58]
emailed in and the city clerk
[2:03:58]
could send to your doctor and
[2:04:00]
we will distribute Brenda pleas
[2:04:01]
on you.
[2:04:01]
Good afternoon Mayor city
[2:04:02]
council members and members of
[2:04:05]
the public.
[2:04:06]
My name is Brenda Gallacher and
[2:04:07]
I serve as an outreach analyst
[2:04:11]
and your liaison with
[2:04:12]
the California Department of
[2:04:13]
Insurance.
[2:04:13]
Under Commissioner McNamara's
[2:04:14]
leadership we're advancing
[2:04:17]
the sustainable insurance
[2:04:17]
strategy.
[2:04:18]
Great news in six companies
[2:04:19]
have committed to growing in
[2:04:23]
California with more expected
[2:04:24]
to follow.
[2:04:25]
We are requesting that you and
[2:04:25]
the board of the following
[2:04:26]
legislative bills that are
[2:04:30]
being proposed.
[2:04:30]
Assembly Bill 1795 The Smoke
[2:04:31]
Damage Recovery Act.
[2:04:35]
This bill would establish
[2:04:36]
standards and protocols related
[2:04:37]
to smoke damages from
[2:04:37]
wildfires.
[2:04:41]
The goal is to give wildfire
[2:04:42]
survivors a reliable health
[2:04:43]
oriented framework and
[2:04:48]
inspecting testing, restoring
[2:04:48]
and filing claims for smoke
[2:04:49]
damage properties.
[2:04:53]
Assembly Bill 1680 The Make It
[2:04:53]
Fair Act aims to reform
[2:04:58]
the insurer of last resort
[2:04:59]
the California Fair Plan by
[2:04:59]
requiring it to adopt
[2:05:03]
recommendations from the recent
[2:05:04]
Department of Insurance
[2:05:04]
examinations, strengthen
[2:05:05]
governance and consumer
[2:05:09]
protections potentially expand
[2:05:10]
policy limits and coverage
[2:05:10]
options such as more
[2:05:11]
comprehensive homeowner's
[2:05:15]
coverages, improve transparency
[2:05:16]
and impose civil penalties for
[2:05:21]
noncompliance helping ensure
[2:05:22]
the fair, better serves
[2:05:22]
Californians will get covered
[2:05:26]
and can get coverage in
[2:05:27]
the public market.
[2:05:27]
Senate Bill 876 which is
[2:05:33]
the disaster Recovery Act and
[2:05:34]
it really aims to seek to
[2:05:34]
reform how insurers handle
[2:05:40]
residential property claims and
[2:05:40]
fire insurance claims
[2:05:41]
especially after a major
[2:05:46]
disaster like the wildfires we
[2:05:46]
just experienced.
[2:05:47]
This bill would require
[2:05:51]
insurers to prepare disaster
[2:05:51]
recovery plans, set clear
[2:05:56]
timelines for payments
[2:05:57]
including earlier actual cash
[2:05:58]
value replacement, double
[2:05:58]
penalties during emergencies.
[2:06:04]
Lastly, as your liaison we
[2:06:05]
would like to partner up and
[2:06:06]
continue to provide insurance
[2:06:10]
information.
[2:06:11]
Thank you for that concluding
[2:06:12]
comment and I think if you can
[2:06:19]
please you after that is 1384
[2:06:26]
under every academy before you
[2:06:27]
you should have gotten a pop
[2:06:27]
up.
[2:06:27]
If you can't hear me.
[2:06:28]
I will have to move on to
[2:06:29]
the next speaker.
[2:06:32]
Also note the five minute timer
[2:06:33]
also concluded during the last
[2:06:34]
speaker and there were eight
[2:06:34]
speakers in the queue.
[2:06:35]
No additional speakers will be
[2:06:42]
taken after that and I'll need
[2:06:43]
to move on to the next speaker.
[2:06:54]
1384 If you can please unmute
[2:06:55]
1384 you are unmuted.
[2:06:55]
We did not hear you here in
[2:06:56]
council chambers.
[2:06:56]
Not sure if the device that
[2:06:57]
you're speaking into MAY be
[2:07:02]
muted.
[2:07:15]
1384 You muted yourself again.
[2:07:16]
You'll need to unmute we did
[2:07:20]
hear the unmute so it is just
[2:07:21]
something on your device.
[2:07:22]
Is your phone muted?
[2:07:27]
Maybe we do not hear you here
[2:07:33]
in council chambers we will
[2:07:34]
need to move on.
[2:07:34]
Thank you Walker if you can
[2:07:35]
please on mute.
[2:07:39]
Thank you.
[2:07:39]
Hello.
[2:07:40]
As a public health educator I
[2:07:40]
believe it's in the public
[2:07:45]
interest for policymakers to be
[2:07:45]
aware of a mounting nationwide
[2:07:46]
shift on marijuana
[2:07:46]
legalization.
[2:07:51]
The Wall Street Journal and
[2:07:51]
other media report referendum
[2:07:52]
campaigns to roll back
[2:07:57]
marijuana legalized action are
[2:07:58]
now underway in Massachusetts,
[2:07:58]
Maine, Arizona and other
[2:07:59]
jurisdictions.
[2:08:03]
These referendums are not
[2:08:03]
ideological but science driven.
[2:08:09]
Peer reviewed studies document
[2:08:10]
sharp rises in marijuana
[2:08:10]
related e-r visits and
[2:08:11]
psychiatric emergencies.
[2:08:16]
When longitude a longitudinal
[2:08:21]
study of nearly 465,000
[2:08:22]
adolescent aged 13 to 17 found
[2:08:26]
past year marijuana use is
[2:08:27]
associated with significantly
[2:08:28]
increased risk of psychotic
[2:08:33]
bipolar depressive and anxiety
[2:08:33]
disorders By age 26,
[2:08:39]
the Massachusetts state
[2:08:40]
referendum push follows
[2:08:41]
findings from Mass General
[2:08:45]
Hospital of a fourfold increase
[2:08:45]
in marijuana related
[2:08:46]
psychiatric emergencies among
[2:08:52]
adolescents since legalization.
[2:08:52]
Closer to home San Diego County
[2:08:57]
data show high E.R. Admissions
[2:08:58]
for cannabis hyperemesis
[2:09:02]
syndrome and psychiatric issues
[2:09:03]
particularly among those 10 to
[2:09:03]
24.
[2:09:09]
Further a meta analysis by ucla
[2:09:10]
Health with contributions from
[2:09:11]
Harvard, uc San Francisco,
[2:09:15]
Washington University and New
[2:09:16]
York University is among others
[2:09:16]
concluding that scientific
[2:09:22]
support for most quote medical
[2:09:23]
uses of marijuana is weak to
[2:09:27]
nonexistent.
[2:09:28]
I therefore urge this council
[2:09:29]
to join others Reassessing
[2:09:33]
marijuana policies in light of
[2:09:33]
mounting health and fiscal
[2:09:34]
consequences.
[2:09:34]
Thank you.
[2:09:39]
Thank you.
[2:09:40]
Next is 8813 If you can please
[2:09:41]
unmute Bandler because after
[2:09:45]
that 888133 go.
[2:09:51]
>> Okay I'm still here so what
[2:09:52]
is that something that
[2:09:53]
the people who genuinely want
[2:09:53]
what's best for humanity are
[2:09:57]
labeled extreme or cuckoo?
[2:09:58]
Well those behaving in truly
[2:09:58]
extreme ways against nature,
[2:10:02]
against humanity, against
[2:10:03]
common sense are protected,
[2:10:04]
funded and praised by
[2:10:04]
government local government
[2:10:09]
agencies like this one are
[2:10:10]
filled with board members who
[2:10:10]
have become the real extremists
[2:10:15]
entirely out of touch with what
[2:10:15]
it means to be human.
[2:10:16]
Many of you have lost your
[2:10:17]
connection to reality, to
[2:10:21]
community and to consequence.
[2:10:22]
Everything that happens here is
[2:10:22]
not for the benefit of San
[2:10:23]
Diego County or city.
[2:10:28]
It serves a much bigger agenda
[2:10:28]
and I will continue to name
[2:10:29]
that agenda meeting after
[2:10:33]
meeting for as long as it takes
[2:10:34]
until you wake up to what you
[2:10:35]
are actually participating in.
[2:10:39]
That is the United Nations
[2:10:40]
agenda for the 21st century.
[2:10:40]
As some of you already know
[2:10:41]
exactly what you're doing.
[2:10:42]
Many of you have sold
[2:10:46]
yourselves to the highest
[2:10:46]
bidder.
[2:10:47]
But understand this you are not
[2:10:47]
exempt.
[2:10:51]
You are disposable to the very
[2:10:52]
system you serve.
[2:10:52]
You too will face consequences.
[2:10:56]
You too will suffer through
[2:10:57]
what you have the power to
[2:10:58]
prevent others from suffering
[2:10:58]
through.
[2:10:59]
You've helped create
[2:11:03]
unnecessary wasteful things
[2:11:04]
like stupid bike lanes And now
[2:11:05]
this whole convention center
[2:11:10]
updates.
[2:11:11]
It's just so sad.
[2:11:11]
Anyways, while families
[2:11:12]
struggle to survive, the money
[2:11:16]
could have gone to could go to
[2:11:16]
homeless veterans people who
[2:11:17]
fought for this country.
[2:11:22]
Yeah, they fought only to come
[2:11:23]
home and sleep in their cars
[2:11:24]
trying to make sense of what a
[2:11:28]
sacrifice for agencies like
[2:11:29]
sandag and the board and can
[2:11:29]
need to take advantage of a
[2:11:34]
population that is stressed,
[2:11:35]
exhausted and barely surviving.
[2:11:36]
And not to mention not paying
[2:11:36]
attention.
[2:11:40]
You think you're helping but
[2:11:40]
this is an abusive relationship
[2:11:41]
and you are on the abusive
[2:11:41]
side.
[2:11:46]
The system is sick.
[2:11:47]
It is self inflating and
[2:11:47]
anything that goes against
[2:11:53]
humanity nature will collapse
[2:11:53]
your time.
[2:11:54]
>> It better be commended for
[2:11:56]
completing you After that will
[2:11:57]
be 7499 And I'm begging Robert
[2:11:58]
Blair please proceed.
[2:12:02]
>> I Beekman Thanks for
[2:12:03]
the meeting today.
[2:12:04]
I will be looking forward to
[2:12:04]
the 6:00 meeting.
[2:12:04]
Thank you.
[2:12:09]
Or it a couple items I wanted
[2:12:12]
to bring up at no Agenda public
[2:12:13]
comment One is I sent a letter
[2:12:14]
to the clerk's office this
[2:12:14]
morning.
[2:12:19]
You're talking about possibly
[2:12:19]
ending having an additional
[2:12:20]
five minutes for people to
[2:12:25]
raise their hand for a virtual
[2:12:25]
public comment time.
[2:12:30]
I hope you can keep it.
[2:12:31]
I fully understand
[2:12:32]
the housecleaning where you're
[2:12:36]
doing it and that Zoom is going
[2:12:37]
to be mandated to continue now
[2:12:37]
in California.
[2:12:38]
Thank you.
[2:12:42]
That it is and that you're
[2:12:43]
going to just you're doing some
[2:12:44]
housecleaning measures And once
[2:12:49]
you end virtual public comment
[2:12:49]
time where you can raise your
[2:12:50]
hand at the end of in-person
[2:12:54]
public comment.
[2:12:55]
Only fair thing to do.
[2:12:56]
I don't argue with it at all
[2:13:01]
but it's just convenient as all
[2:13:01]
heck for people and the public.
[2:13:05]
You have that additional five
[2:13:05]
minutes.
[2:13:06]
You know their mothers are
[2:13:10]
working on items and for me I'm
[2:13:11]
running around doing things.
[2:13:11]
It really is helpful just to
[2:13:15]
have that additional five
[2:13:15]
minutes So hopefully you can
[2:13:16]
consider that and that can be
[2:13:22]
we can talk about it a bit more
[2:13:22]
before I reach your final
[2:13:23]
approvals.
[2:13:23]
Good luck and working on I
[2:13:24]
think a letter to better
[2:13:27]
describe I hope we can write
[2:13:28]
back and we can talk about it
[2:13:28]
as needed and such And also
[2:13:33]
with my remaining 30s.
[2:13:34]
San Jose I've talked about open
[2:13:38]
and they've compromised and
[2:13:39]
walk in two years and in that
[2:13:44]
time look for a new vendor I
[2:13:45]
mean I think that's like
[2:13:46]
absolutely brilliant in terms
[2:13:46]
of how to work with community
[2:13:51]
towards future best practices.
[2:13:51]
They're working now San Jose is
[2:13:52]
considering divestment issues
[2:13:58]
with you know to address, you
[2:13:58]
know the future of detention
[2:14:04]
centers and Israel in fact so
[2:14:05]
good luck that we can be
[2:14:05]
working in your time that
[2:14:09]
suited my apologies seven 499
[2:14:10]
if you can please unmute and
[2:14:10]
then after that is back You
[2:14:10]
ready?
[2:14:16]
>> All right.
[2:14:17]
Bob Cusack This year nearly
[2:14:17]
every week I talk about
[2:14:18]
the problems at the Torrey
[2:14:20]
Pines Flight Airport.
[2:14:21]
But those problems are really
[2:14:22]
just a very specific example of
[2:14:23]
a more pervasive problem
[2:14:23]
throughout the city.
[2:14:26]
That problem is the unhealthy
[2:14:27]
mix of government power and
[2:14:27]
private profit.
[2:14:28]
Today I'd like to explore that
[2:14:32]
broader problem.
[2:14:32]
Everyone knows that running a
[2:14:33]
city requires purchasing goods
[2:14:34]
and services that the city
[2:14:38]
itself should not produce.
[2:14:39]
Examples run from pencil to
[2:14:39]
police cars.
[2:14:40]
The city could try to make
[2:14:41]
their own pencils and police
[2:14:44]
cars but that would be
[2:14:45]
extremely inefficient a huge
[2:14:46]
waste of resources and
[2:14:46]
the results would be terrible
[2:14:47]
anyway.
[2:14:50]
And so the police cars are much
[2:14:50]
more efficiently purchased on
[2:14:51]
the open market.
[2:14:51]
But does it make sense for
[2:14:52]
the city to purchase outside
[2:14:56]
police and other services?
[2:14:57]
Where should the city draw
[2:14:57]
the line?
[2:14:58]
That's a complicated question
[2:14:59]
but let me suggest an important
[2:14:59]
criteria.
[2:15:02]
In all cases the city should
[2:15:03]
never delegate direct power
[2:15:07]
over citizens to third party
[2:15:08]
businesses operating for
[2:15:08]
profit.
[2:15:09]
Period.
[2:15:09]
The city should never, for
[2:15:10]
example, delegate police
[2:15:14]
authority over citizens to a
[2:15:14]
for profit business as was done
[2:15:15]
with the red light cameras.
[2:15:20]
The city should never delegated
[2:15:21]
as in communication to a for
[2:15:21]
profit business as you're doing
[2:15:22]
with constant contact.
[2:15:26]
The city should never delegate
[2:15:27]
authority of our parking
[2:15:27]
structure to a for profit
[2:15:28]
business.
[2:15:28]
As you're doing in the Jones
[2:15:29]
Park eight the city should
[2:15:32]
never delegate authority over
[2:15:33]
our parks to a for profit
[2:15:33]
business.
[2:15:34]
As you're doing at Torrey Pines
[2:15:38]
Glider Park in all of these
[2:15:39]
examples the city can't just
[2:15:40]
delegate authority and then
[2:15:40]
look the other way.
[2:15:44]
That's a recipe for abuse And
[2:15:44]
we've seen that abuse in each
[2:15:45]
example including the glider
[2:15:49]
port business refusing park
[2:15:50]
access to people who've
[2:15:50]
testified against them in
[2:15:51]
court.
[2:15:55]
These are the abuses that arise
[2:15:56]
when it's when the city hires
[2:15:57]
outside businesses and then
[2:15:58]
shirks its duty to ensure that
[2:16:01]
citizens are treated fairly by
[2:16:02]
those businesses.
[2:16:02]
What's ironic is that all of
[2:16:03]
you are left wing council
[2:16:07]
members and mayor would quickly
[2:16:08]
accuse conservatives of putting
[2:16:09]
business interests above
[2:16:09]
the public.
[2:16:14]
But here you are doing it every
[2:16:15]
single day.
[2:16:15]
We have to make the Torrey
[2:16:16]
Pines City Park Advisory Board
[2:16:20]
and implement the Torrey Pines
[2:16:21]
waiver.
[2:16:21]
>> Thank you for that
[2:16:22]
concluding comment.
[2:16:22]
If you raise your hand after
[2:16:23]
the five minute timer we won't
[2:16:26]
be able to take your call today
[2:16:27]
but you can definitely email it
[2:16:28]
to City Clerk of San diego.Gov
[2:16:28]
and your comments will be
[2:16:33]
delivered to the council.
[2:16:36]
Becky please unmute after that
[2:16:37]
8700 a.M Skilling No other
[2:16:37]
speakers will be taken.
[2:16:38]
>> But good afternoon.
[2:16:43]
My name is Becky Rapp.
[2:16:44]
I'm a local parent.
[2:16:44]
Concern for the health and
[2:16:45]
safety of our young people
[2:16:48]
today especially as they're
[2:16:49]
bombarded with misinformation
[2:16:49]
regarding drug use especially
[2:16:54]
marijuana.
[2:16:54]
Recently The New York Times
[2:16:55]
published an editorial titled
[2:17:00]
It's Time for America to Admit
[2:17:01]
That It Has a Marijuana
[2:17:01]
Problem.
[2:17:02]
National publications like
[2:17:02]
the New York Times are
[2:17:06]
recognizing that marijuana is
[2:17:07]
not what the industry has told
[2:17:08]
us but that there are serious
[2:17:08]
public health concerns that
[2:17:13]
have evolved since they've been
[2:17:13]
permitted.
[2:17:14]
Consumers were promised
[2:17:14]
transparency and especially
[2:17:19]
guardrails.
[2:17:19]
But many consumers have no idea
[2:17:20]
how potent these products are.
[2:17:24]
Young adults are being exposed
[2:17:25]
to levels of thc that research
[2:17:30]
increasingly links to higher
[2:17:31]
risks of psychosis, anxiety
[2:17:31]
disorders and long term
[2:17:36]
psychiatric harm particularly
[2:17:37]
in the developing brain.
[2:17:37]
And here in San Diego we cannot
[2:17:38]
ignore the significant problem
[2:17:43]
Many residents are facing as
[2:17:43]
they struggle with addiction.
[2:17:44]
Overdose Behavioral Health
[2:17:44]
crisis.
[2:17:48]
Impaired driving and
[2:17:49]
homelessness tied to substance
[2:17:49]
use.
[2:17:50]
So we have to ask ourselves are
[2:17:54]
we trying to mitigate our drug
[2:17:55]
problem or are we fueling it?
[2:17:55]
If we're serious about
[2:18:00]
prevention then we must be
[2:18:00]
serious about guardrails,
[2:18:01]
potency caps, meaningful
[2:18:02]
warning labels, youth
[2:18:05]
prevention funding and
[2:18:06]
enforcement against marketing
[2:18:07]
that normalizes youth.
[2:18:07]
San Diego deserves an honest
[2:18:12]
assessment of where we are and
[2:18:13]
whether our policies are
[2:18:14]
reducing harm before expanding
[2:18:14]
it.
[2:18:18]
Thank you.
[2:18:19]
>> Thank you.
[2:18:20]
Next is 8700 If you can please
[2:18:32]
unmute for Joyce in your other
[2:18:32]
district.
[2:18:33]
She could easily see Quick
[2:18:33]
point.
[2:18:35]
Sorry about the star nine.
[2:18:36]
I was in that queue for a while
[2:18:36]
and then I don't know I looked
[2:18:42]
at my screen and I didn't see
[2:18:43]
Star and I was starting to see
[2:18:44]
her and start talking.
[2:18:47]
But really your time is going
[2:18:47]
so please start to your
[2:18:48]
comments please.
[2:18:48]
That's okay.
[2:18:49]
I knew it would start.
[2:18:52]
That's okay.
[2:18:52]
That's okay.
[2:18:53]
I got that.
[2:18:54]
So I want to share this with
[2:18:54]
all of you.
[2:18:58]
I want to say that yes, it is
[2:18:59]
good to be back participating
[2:19:05]
in government Yet it does feel
[2:19:06]
new to me and I can't figure
[2:19:10]
out why that appeals to me and
[2:19:11]
perhaps a little bumpy in some
[2:19:11]
ways.
[2:19:12]
So I just wanted to thank
[2:19:16]
everyone for your patience and
[2:19:17]
to let you know that I am glad
[2:19:17]
to be back.
[2:19:23]
So I wanted to also as as Blair
[2:19:23]
just spoke on the five minute
[2:19:28]
rule, I also want to say that
[2:19:29]
I'll leave it up to you because
[2:19:30]
you can get the bigger picture
[2:19:30]
and how it's going to impact on
[2:19:34]
all the methodologies and
[2:19:35]
everything.
[2:19:36]
But I will tell you this There
[2:19:40]
have been times when I
[2:19:41]
definitely could not under that
[2:19:42]
I wouldn't I would not be
[2:19:42]
allowed to speak.
[2:19:46]
And mostly if I remember right
[2:19:47]
is housing authority items
[2:19:48]
where there was no presentation
[2:19:48]
like maybe that was not that
[2:19:54]
difficult to comment on your
[2:19:54]
presentation nobody in
[2:19:55]
the chambers.
[2:19:55]
So my question for you if you
[2:19:58]
could answer this for
[2:19:59]
the public what's going to be
[2:19:59]
the trigger when we can raise
[2:20:00]
our hands?
[2:20:04]
Do we have to begin with
[2:20:05]
the agenda item?
[2:20:05]
Do you have to say now is
[2:20:06]
the time for another agenda?
[2:20:10]
Public comment?
[2:20:11]
I don't think we're going to be
[2:20:12]
able to raise our hand.
[2:20:16]
I just go by you know, my phone
[2:20:17]
so please let us know on that
[2:20:18]
And then one do the thing I
[2:20:21]
don't have time for today but
[2:20:22]
maybe tomorrow I'm going to be
[2:20:23]
speaking on Western states
[2:20:28]
again.
[2:20:28]
Missed the deadline for water
[2:20:29]
deals.
[2:20:29]
This came into the U.S. On
[2:20:30]
Valentine's Day.
[2:20:35]
So I'll probably speak on that
[2:20:35]
tomorrow.
[2:20:36]
So thank you everybody And up
[2:20:37]
to our thank you for your
[2:20:38]
comments and if we complete and
[2:20:43]
you.
[2:20:44]
Good afternoon San Diego City
[2:20:45]
Council Chair LaCava My name is
[2:20:49]
Darian Skelly and I'm here as a
[2:20:50]
planning group attendee and
[2:20:51]
community volunteer one of
[2:20:51]
the teen and parent programs at
[2:20:55]
our high schools.
[2:20:55]
That is important to me and
[2:20:56]
speaking to all of us in
[2:20:57]
the city is the start.
[2:21:00]
Smart program provided to high
[2:21:01]
school students and their
[2:21:01]
parents by the California
[2:21:06]
Highway Patrol.
[2:21:07]
Alcohol and drug use are a
[2:21:07]
nationwide roadway safety
[2:21:13]
concern and almost 1 in 3
[2:21:13]
traffic deaths involve in a
[2:21:18]
pair driver As you can imagine,
[2:21:19]
insurance companies care a
[2:21:19]
great deal about teen driving.
[2:21:20]
So I wanted to share today
[2:21:25]
information from ucsd and from
[2:21:25]
the California Department of
[2:21:26]
Traffic Safety.
[2:21:31]
What's regarding marijuana
[2:21:31]
impaired driving by young
[2:21:32]
adults which shows that it is
[2:21:33]
increasing in communities that
[2:21:37]
permit marijuana storefronts.
[2:21:38]
The ucsd Energy Studies show
[2:21:42]
that driving while under
[2:21:43]
the influence of marijuana
[2:21:43]
negatively impacts
[2:21:44]
attentiveness, perception of
[2:21:49]
time and memory Impaired memory
[2:21:50]
can affect the ability to draw
[2:21:55]
from past driving experiences
[2:21:56]
especially in emergency
[2:21:56]
situations.
[2:22:01]
Marijuana impaired drivers
[2:22:01]
react slower to traffic lights
[2:22:02]
and unexpected obstacles and
[2:22:07]
are less aware of their own
[2:22:07]
speed.
[2:22:08]
Perhaps it is time for a closer
[2:22:09]
look at marijuana Businesses
[2:22:13]
impact on the health and safety
[2:22:13]
of our city residents.
[2:22:14]
Thank you for hearing my
[2:22:19]
concerns this afternoon.
[2:22:20]
>> Thank you.
[2:22:20]
That does conclude our agenda.
[2:22:21]
Public comment Again if you
[2:22:22]
were not able to speak today
[2:22:22]
because you raise your hand
[2:22:26]
after the five minute timer
[2:22:27]
please be sure to email city
[2:22:28]
representative.Gov and we will
[2:22:28]
distribute those
[2:22:29]
communications.
[2:22:31]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[2:22:31]
right.
[2:22:32]
Thank you City Clerk With that
[2:22:33]
does the city Attorney have
[2:22:33]
anything to report out from
[2:22:36]
closed session?
[2:22:37]
Yes Thank you.
[2:22:37]
Council PRESIDENT Today in a
[2:22:38]
closed session meeting the City
[2:22:39]
council took the following
[2:22:43]
action.
[2:22:43]
City council voted in closed
[2:22:44]
session item number seven to
[2:22:45]
authorize the initiation of
[2:22:48]
litigation Once litigation is
[2:22:49]
formally commenced the action
[2:22:50]
the defendants and other
[2:22:54]
particulars will be disclosed
[2:22:55]
to any person upon inquiry
[2:22:56]
unless to do so would
[2:22:56]
jeopardize effective service of
[2:23:01]
process or settlement
[2:23:02]
negotiations.
[2:23:02]
The motion passed 620 with
[2:23:03]
council members from Wilbert
[2:23:07]
Campo and Elio Rivera absent.
[2:23:08]
That concludes my report.
[2:23:08]
All right.
[2:23:13]
Thank you for that report Out
[2:23:13]
as a friendly reminder to my
[2:23:14]
colleagues, this is going to be
[2:23:15]
the end of our afternoon
[2:23:19]
session.
[2:23:19]
We're going to reconvene.
[2:23:20]
We need all five of us to
[2:23:23]
actually be there at 6:00.
[2:23:24]
Councilmember Campbell has gone
[2:23:25]
home a little bit under
[2:23:25]
the weather.
[2:23:29]
We do need to have five in
[2:23:30]
chambers irrespective of
[2:23:30]
whether council member Isla
[2:23:31]
Rivera participates remotely.
[2:23:35]
So just that friendly reminder
[2:23:35]
I see a lot of smiles on
[2:23:40]
the faces.
[2:23:41]
So with that and I want to make
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sure that you're going to be
[2:23:43]
here because we're all
[2:23:50]
committed right.
[2:23:50]
All right.
[2:23:51]
With that, we will now recess
[2:30:27]
P.M. Or shortly thereafter
[2:32:27]
And
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All right, good evening.
[2:33:02]
I will now reconvene the city
[2:33:02]
council meeting of Monday,
[2:33:06]
FEBRUARY 23rd, 2026 to order.
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Clerk Please call the roll.
[2:33:07]
Thank you.
[2:33:08]
Council PRESIDENT Council
[2:33:12]
member Campbell Council Member
[2:33:13]
Whitburn here.
[2:33:13]
Councilmember Foster here
[2:33:18]
Council Member Ron Wilbur
[2:33:19]
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[2:33:19]
Councilmember Campeon
[2:33:25]
Councilmember Moreno Present
[2:33:26]
Council Member Eli Rivera
[2:33:27]
Present and Council PRESIDENT
[2:33:27]
Look our PRESIDENT Also
[2:33:31]
attending the meeting our Chief
[2:33:31]
deputy city Attorney brought
[2:33:32]
out a lot of independent budget
[2:33:33]
analyst Charles Monaco Council
[2:33:37]
Affairs Advisor in the mayor's
[2:33:38]
office Curtis Iser and myself
[2:33:39]
your city clerk, the other
[2:33:39]
fantastic council PRESIDENT.
[2:33:40]
All right.
[2:33:42]
Thank you for that.
[2:33:42]
>> clerk Please introduce items
[2:33:47]
four hundred items 400 is an
[2:33:48]
informational item.
[2:33:48]
It is a hearing for public
[2:33:52]
input on the development of
[2:33:53]
the fiscal year 2027 budget.
[2:33:54]
If you are hearing council
[2:33:54]
chambers please be sure to
[2:33:55]
submit a speaker's up to
[2:33:58]
the front of the room in
[2:33:59]
the clear box And if you are
[2:33:59]
participating remotely now's
[2:34:04]
the time to raise your hand by
[2:34:05]
pressing Star nine or the raise
[2:34:05]
your hand icon.
[2:34:06]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[2:34:06]
right.
[2:34:10]
Thank you.
[2:34:11]
So in lieu of presentation I'm
[2:34:12]
going to make some opening
[2:34:12]
comments.
[2:34:13]
I'm going to turn it over to
[2:34:17]
MR. Molokai, the aba office and
[2:34:17]
then will conclude with Council
[2:34:21]
member Foster the chair of
[2:34:22]
the Budget Committee and then
[2:34:23]
we'll open it up to the public.
[2:34:24]
>> So we're holding this
[2:34:28]
evening session as the first
[2:34:29]
opportunity for the public to
[2:34:29]
provide comment on fiscal year
[2:34:30]
2027 budget.
[2:34:34]
I want to thank in advance
[2:34:34]
those who are here in chambers
[2:34:35]
and those who are waiting to
[2:34:39]
speak online.
[2:34:40]
Last year's budget was
[2:34:40]
challenging but as a council we
[2:34:41]
worked hard to preserve
[2:34:46]
essential services and trimmed
[2:34:47]
what we believe were
[2:34:47]
non-essential operations.
[2:34:48]
Doing so required difficult
[2:34:52]
decisions raising fines and
[2:34:53]
sharing more services are cost
[2:34:54]
recoverable and charging for
[2:34:54]
parking available park None of
[2:34:58]
that is something I wanted to
[2:34:59]
do but I weighed the closing of
[2:35:00]
rec centers, libraries and
[2:35:04]
public restrooms against those
[2:35:05]
other options for f y 27 If I'm
[2:35:05]
going to support an expenditure
[2:35:10]
I have to balance that with
[2:35:11]
either revenue increase or by
[2:35:12]
cutting another service.
[2:35:16]
Conversely, if I'm going to
[2:35:17]
support cutting or eliminating
[2:35:18]
ongoing revenue I need to see a
[2:35:18]
replacement revenue or cutting
[2:35:22]
expenditure.
[2:35:23]
We just have that difficult of
[2:35:23]
a conversation.
[2:35:24]
I hope that all in this
[2:35:28]
conversation operate with that
[2:35:29]
same approach.
[2:35:30]
It is too easy to just say I
[2:35:30]
have this service or cut that
[2:35:34]
revenue help us understand your
[2:35:35]
priorities and balance them
[2:35:35]
against the tradeoffs.
[2:35:36]
We can't have it all.
[2:35:40]
We can't prioritize by
[2:35:41]
the needs of each community,
[2:35:42]
each neighborhood, each San
[2:35:46]
Diego This year I'm again
[2:35:47]
committed to that reality.
[2:35:48]
I will not and this Council
[2:35:48]
cannot tell the public we will
[2:35:53]
fund a service and then a few
[2:35:53]
weeks later not vote for
[2:35:54]
the same revenue to keep that
[2:35:54]
promise.
[2:35:58]
Now before I turn it over to
[2:35:59]
the public I ask for your
[2:35:59]
assistance If you're going to
[2:36:00]
be asking us to increase
[2:36:04]
funding, tell us where you're
[2:36:04]
willing to cut.
[2:36:05]
We have to balance this budget
[2:36:06]
and a priority needs to come
[2:36:10]
with a priority reduction.
[2:36:11]
This will not be easy but we
[2:36:12]
can and we will do this
[2:36:12]
together.
[2:36:12]
Thank you.
[2:36:16]
And now I'll turn it over to
[2:36:17]
our independent journalist
[2:36:17]
Charles Parker.
[2:36:18]
Sir.
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Thank you.
[2:36:19]
Council PRESIDENT I should just
[2:36:22]
say did open instead I will
[2:36:23]
read longer remarks from that.
[2:36:24]
I did want to provide some
[2:36:28]
context for discussions for
[2:36:29]
the upcoming 27 budget.
[2:36:29]
Most of you will have already
[2:36:30]
heard this but I do
[2:36:34]
nevertheless think it is
[2:36:35]
important for both council and
[2:36:35]
the public to bear in mind
[2:36:36]
where the city finds itself and
[2:36:40]
the difficult choices that we
[2:36:41]
are facing in the upcoming
[2:36:41]
budget.
[2:36:42]
As my office has noted for some
[2:36:42]
time the city has faced
[2:36:46]
significant fiscal challenges
[2:36:47]
for years and our challenges
[2:36:47]
today really have been decades
[2:36:48]
in the making.
[2:36:52]
While San Diego is a large
[2:36:53]
city, its revenues are
[2:36:53]
generally lower than comparable
[2:36:54]
cities and they are frankly
[2:36:58]
insufficient to support
[2:36:59]
the city's operations.
[2:37:00]
The city has been able to get
[2:37:03]
by for the last 20 years or so
[2:37:04]
by keeping its costs low but it
[2:37:05]
did so largely through putting
[2:37:05]
off infrastructure maintenance
[2:37:09]
and keeping city salaries well
[2:37:10]
below the median for comparable
[2:37:11]
cities and even other cities in
[2:37:15]
our region.
[2:37:15]
Both of those had long term
[2:37:16]
consequences and long term cost
[2:37:21]
over the last several years
[2:37:21]
The city began addressing many
[2:37:22]
of these issues but the city
[2:37:23]
was only able to do so by
[2:37:26]
tapping into a significant one
[2:37:27]
time resources that have since
[2:37:27]
been exhausted.
[2:37:28]
While the city attempted to
[2:37:32]
respond to this longstanding
[2:37:33]
structural deficit through 2020
[2:37:34]
fourth Measure e sales tax
[2:37:39]
measure that ballot item failed
[2:37:39]
which left the city needing to
[2:37:40]
realign its ongoing services
[2:37:46]
with its ongoing resources last
[2:37:46]
year at this time we were
[2:37:47]
staring at a roughly $260
[2:37:48]
million deficit for the current
[2:37:51]
fiscal year of 26 which we
[2:37:51]
closed through three main
[2:37:52]
actions.
[2:37:52]
First, we delayed reserve
[2:37:57]
contributions which solved
[2:37:58]
roughly $60 million of that
[2:37:58]
deficit.
[2:38:02]
Second, we implemented a little
[2:38:02]
over $100 million in new
[2:38:03]
revenues to offset expenses
[2:38:03]
that would have otherwise
[2:38:07]
fallen to the general fund
[2:38:08]
notably through trash fees,
[2:38:08]
fines and parking fees.
[2:38:12]
And then the final roughly 100
[2:38:13]
million came through other
[2:38:13]
onetime resources and then cuts
[2:38:14]
to city services such as
[2:38:18]
library hours.
[2:38:19]
This year we are facing another
[2:38:20]
deficit for the upcoming year.
[2:38:23]
It was reported at $88 million
[2:38:23]
in the year five year outlook.
[2:38:27]
It has since grown to between
[2:38:28]
100 and $120 Million.
[2:38:28]
That already reflects continued
[2:38:33]
delays to reserve contributions
[2:38:35]
I also think that it is fair to
[2:38:35]
note that most of new revenue
[2:38:36]
sources that could be tapped
[2:38:39]
into in the next year have
[2:38:40]
already been tapped and
[2:38:40]
the appetite for new revenue
[2:38:41]
from the immediate future seems
[2:38:45]
limited which means that
[2:38:46]
the projected deficit we are
[2:38:46]
facing has to be closed by and
[2:38:51]
large through cuts.
[2:38:52]
As you are aware cuts are not
[2:38:52]
easy.
[2:38:52]
It gives me absolutely no
[2:38:53]
pleasure to say that they are
[2:38:58]
required but by law the city's
[2:38:59]
budget need to be balanced and
[2:38:59]
we cannot spend money that we
[2:39:03]
do not have.
[2:39:04]
To that end, as we have
[2:39:04]
discussions tonight and as we
[2:39:05]
continue to have discussions
[2:39:06]
about the budget over the next
[2:39:10]
several months, we really need
[2:39:10]
to be realistic about what we
[2:39:11]
can fund with the resources
[2:39:15]
that we have And therefore I
[2:39:15]
recommend folks I think
[2:39:16]
focusing our conversation on
[2:39:17]
one core services that council
[2:39:21]
and the public want to see
[2:39:22]
maintained and to areas where
[2:39:22]
the city should consider
[2:39:23]
pulling back or reducing
[2:39:26]
services which will be
[2:39:27]
difficult but necessary.
[2:39:28]
With that I look forward to
[2:39:28]
hearing comments from
[2:39:33]
the public and from council
[2:39:34]
members and at this point I
[2:39:35]
will toss it over to
[2:39:39]
Councilmember Foster.
[2:39:39]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT And
[2:39:45]
thank you to the aba for your
[2:39:45]
remarks and thank you to
[2:39:46]
the public for your
[2:39:50]
participation this evening.
[2:39:51]
As I indicated, the city is
[2:39:52]
potentially facing a shortfall
[2:39:56]
with our current f y 2026
[2:39:57]
budget and we certainly have
[2:40:01]
more work to do as we monitor
[2:40:02]
third quarter and fourth
[2:40:02]
quarter returns.
[2:40:06]
In addition, any shortfall to
[2:40:07]
the current budget creates even
[2:40:08]
more challenges for the f y
[2:40:09]
2027 budget cycle that is
[2:40:14]
already projected to be a
[2:40:14]
deficit of $120 million As
[2:40:15]
the mayor prepares his proposed
[2:40:19]
budget in accordance with
[2:40:20]
the Charter I cannot stress
[2:40:21]
enough we cannot proceed with
[2:40:25]
business as usual Simply we are
[2:40:26]
not in business as usual
[2:40:31]
circumstances as the mayor
[2:40:32]
assesses budget cuts, it's
[2:40:33]
important that staffing levels
[2:40:33]
align with the scope of
[2:40:37]
services delivered in
[2:40:37]
operations most clearly
[2:40:38]
communicate adjustments to
[2:40:42]
service levels to all residents
[2:40:43]
Staffing changes should be
[2:40:44]
proportional across front line
[2:40:48]
supervisory and management
[2:40:49]
levels and service or staffing
[2:40:49]
reductions need to preserve
[2:40:50]
core functions.
[2:40:54]
In short, we must levels at
[2:40:55]
the organization and address
[2:40:56]
unclassified upper and middle
[2:41:00]
management positions Over
[2:41:01]
the last several budget cycles
[2:41:02]
equity has been a guiding
[2:41:06]
principle As the city invested
[2:41:07]
in programs, services and
[2:41:08]
the city workforce to meet
[2:41:08]
the unique needs of residents
[2:41:13]
citywide equity must remain at
[2:41:14]
the forefront.
[2:41:14]
I do appreciate the update
[2:41:20]
regarding recent revenues
[2:41:20]
exceeding projections and
[2:41:21]
further further mitigating
[2:41:25]
the use of reserves.
[2:41:26]
However, just as updates come
[2:41:27]
in we are also met with
[2:41:31]
challenges such as increased
[2:41:32]
rainfall levels and the need
[2:41:32]
for releasing of water that
[2:41:37]
comes at a cost.
[2:41:38]
Let me be clear there will be
[2:41:42]
cuts as we approach the f y
[2:41:43]
2027 budget but they cannot be
[2:41:48]
across the board.
[2:41:48]
Over the last several budget
[2:41:49]
cycles equity has been a
[2:41:54]
guiding principle Equity must
[2:41:54]
remain at the forefront.
[2:41:55]
That means being mindful is
[2:42:00]
strategic.
[2:42:00]
As we evaluate impacts our goal
[2:42:01]
must be to preserve core
[2:42:06]
services and ensure we maintain
[2:42:06]
clean and safe neighborhoods.
[2:42:07]
We must maintain our
[2:42:11]
infrastructure.
[2:42:12]
We must maintain functioning
[2:42:13]
libraries and parks and we must
[2:42:13]
be better at maintaining
[2:42:17]
the facilities and equipment
[2:42:18]
that our employees rely on to
[2:42:18]
do their jobs.
[2:42:23]
We must be good stewards of
[2:42:24]
taxpayer dollars and bring
[2:42:25]
accountability to the table.
[2:42:30]
There is much more work to do
[2:42:30]
and we need the public's input
[2:42:31]
Like tonight we will have
[2:42:35]
additional public comment
[2:42:36]
meetings held in the evening so
[2:42:37]
please mark your calendars for
[2:42:41]
MARCH 10th MAY 4th and MAY
[2:42:41]
the 18th.
[2:42:42]
I strongly encourage residents
[2:42:46]
to participate.
[2:42:47]
There are difficult decisions
[2:42:48]
ahead and the community
[2:42:48]
deserves to be part of
[2:42:53]
the conversation.
[2:42:54]
With that I'll look forward to
[2:42:54]
public comment and suggestions
[2:42:59]
regarding what services you
[2:42:59]
would like to see prioritized
[2:43:00]
in services recommended for
[2:43:04]
reductions and mitigations.
[2:43:05]
Our budget process cannot
[2:43:06]
simply be about cutting for
[2:43:10]
the sake of cutting it must be
[2:43:11]
about building a sustainable,
[2:43:11]
equitable and structurally
[2:43:16]
sound budget that reflects our
[2:43:17]
values and protects core
[2:43:17]
services for the long term.
[2:43:22]
Again, thank you Council
[2:43:23]
PRESIDENT For scheduling this
[2:43:23]
meeting and that concludes my
[2:43:28]
comments.
[2:43:29]
All right.
[2:43:29]
Thank you.
[2:43:30]
Councilmember Foster, Chair of
[2:43:30]
our Budget Committee.
[2:43:34]
Thank you, MR. Monaco for
[2:43:34]
the Office of the Budget
[2:43:35]
analyst with that clerk Please
[2:43:41]
proceed with public comment
[2:43:41]
then council PRESIDENT Starting
[2:43:42]
with Pat Wilson.
[2:43:42]
If you can please come up to
[2:43:46]
the microphone and I can have
[2:43:47]
the following individuals
[2:43:47]
please come up to the front row
[2:43:48]
In the other reserved seats
[2:43:53]
Sara Orman, Vicki Grandmoms and
[2:43:53]
Ramsey if you can all please
[2:43:54]
come up to the other reserved
[2:43:55]
seats you have time seated to
[2:43:58]
you by Patricia Patricia again
[2:43:59]
please raise your hand.
[2:44:03]
You're setting your time.
[2:44:10]
Sorry Patricia Is that okay?
[2:44:11]
Thank you.
[2:44:11]
Sorry.
[2:44:12]
Two people raise their hand at
[2:44:12]
me.
[2:44:12]
Okay.
[2:44:16]
Based on the amount of speakers
[2:44:17]
we're going to be at 1.5
[2:44:17]
minutes so you'll have three
[2:44:18]
minutes.
[2:44:21]
Please proceed.
[2:44:22]
Thank you.
[2:44:22]
Hello again, Council.
[2:44:23]
How are you all tonight?
[2:44:27]
Thank you for being here.
[2:44:28]
I appreciate the opportunity
[2:44:28]
for the public to give input to
[2:44:33]
Council on our priorities
[2:44:34]
before the mayor's proposed
[2:44:35]
budget is finalized even as I'm
[2:44:35]
certain that what we want will
[2:44:39]
have no bearing on what comes
[2:44:40]
forth.
[2:44:40]
That's it.
[2:44:41]
I'm here once again asking you
[2:44:45]
to stand up for libraries and
[2:44:45]
parks the beating heart of our
[2:44:46]
communities especially in these
[2:44:51]
times People need a place to
[2:44:52]
gather, socialize and relax
[2:44:52]
That doesn't cost them money.
[2:44:57]
We need spaces to decompress,
[2:44:57]
learn new skills and broaden
[2:44:58]
our outlooks.
[2:45:03]
We need access to resources
[2:45:04]
that we don't have at home.
[2:45:04]
We all need these spaces
[2:45:09]
regardless of demographics.
[2:45:09]
Every council district has
[2:45:10]
residents who rely on libraries
[2:45:14]
and parks to provide vital
[2:45:15]
physical and mental health
[2:45:15]
opportunities No matter
[2:45:21]
the median income of the area.
[2:45:21]
We must not pick winners and
[2:45:22]
losers here.
[2:45:22]
All of these facilities are
[2:45:27]
vital to their communities.
[2:45:28]
The fact that the mayor keeps
[2:45:28]
coming back time and again to
[2:45:33]
take money from all already to
[2:45:33]
small budgets is infuriating.
[2:45:39]
I cannot accept that there
[2:45:39]
aren't other places to look.
[2:45:43]
Council identified places in
[2:45:43]
the fifth school 26 budget
[2:45:44]
where savings could be found
[2:45:48]
but these savings have yet to
[2:45:49]
be realized and really some
[2:45:53]
things MAY just have to wait
[2:45:53]
$2.4 million for slowing down
[2:45:58]
traffic come on.
[2:45:59]
I mean I'm sure in this year in
[2:46:05]
this year when we're when we're
[2:46:06]
cutting back on vital things
[2:46:06]
that already here I'm sure
[2:46:07]
there are other needs to have
[2:46:11]
proposed expenditures that can
[2:46:11]
wait for a year or two And
[2:46:12]
since I've got time I'm going
[2:46:17]
to rattle off some statistics.
[2:46:18]
The library system last year
[2:46:21]
and 2025 showed it saw 4.8
[2:46:26]
million visits among all 37
[2:46:26]
branches.
[2:46:31]
We had 14,000 program attendees
[2:46:32]
and 736,000 users of library
[2:46:38]
computers and wireless.
[2:46:39]
And if you don't think that
[2:46:40]
makes a difference to people
[2:46:44]
and I just I just can't even.
[2:46:45]
And every council district and
[2:46:50]
every branch has communities
[2:46:50]
who depend on that library and
[2:46:56]
that branch being open.
[2:46:57]
We know we lost Sunday hours.
[2:46:58]
What are those people doing
[2:46:58]
now?
[2:46:59]
Half of our branches more than
[2:46:59]
half of we're not open on
[2:47:01]
Mondays People don't People who
[2:47:02]
need those resources can't get
[2:47:02]
them.
[2:47:09]
So anyway, I implore you we'll
[2:47:10]
be back time again You'll hear
[2:47:11]
and I'm sure Patrick can show
[2:47:13]
you all the wonderful things
[2:47:14]
that the Library Foundation has
[2:47:15]
been putting together for you
[2:47:15]
all.
[2:47:19]
You should have them in your
[2:47:20]
council offices already.
[2:47:21]
>> Thank you very much for your
[2:47:21]
time.
[2:47:22]
Good luck.
[2:47:29]
>> All right.
[2:47:29]
>> Good evening.
[2:47:34]
My name is Cheryl Ormond and I
[2:47:35]
live at 427 ninth Avenue.
[2:47:39]
My husband and I came to San
[2:47:39]
Diego in 2012 from suburban
[2:47:40]
Detroit.
[2:47:45]
As two retired librarian we
[2:47:46]
were delighted to find
[2:47:47]
ourselves just two blocks from
[2:47:51]
the new Central Library.
[2:47:52]
Back in Michigan we used to
[2:47:53]
joke that we had the wealthy
[2:47:57]
suburbs sewn up with the school
[2:47:58]
librarian and growth Point.
[2:47:59]
And I was a public librarian in
[2:48:02]
Birmingham at the Baldwin
[2:48:03]
Public Library.
[2:48:04]
At one point Baldwin had
[2:48:09]
the highest per capita budget
[2:48:10]
for circulating materials in
[2:48:10]
the entire state of Michigan.
[2:48:15]
Sadly, the same is not true for
[2:48:15]
San Diego.
[2:48:21]
Fact compared to other urban
[2:48:21]
libraries, San Diego library
[2:48:26]
systems fare very poorly.
[2:48:27]
Seattle has a population of
[2:48:31]
just over 737,000 people.
[2:48:32]
Their library system has 26
[2:48:37]
branches and their total budget
[2:48:38]
is 100 million.
[2:48:44]
San Diego has a population over
[2:48:49]
1,388,000 people and we have 37
[2:48:49]
branches.
[2:48:54]
But our budget is just 70
[2:48:54]
million.
[2:48:55]
We like to claim that we live
[2:49:00]
in a world class city.
[2:49:00]
But would a world class city
[2:49:01]
have a substandard library?
[2:49:03]
Thank you for that Concluding
[2:49:03]
remark.
[2:49:09]
>> Vicki Reynolds.
[2:49:10]
>> Hi, I'm Vicki Reynolds with
[2:49:11]
the San Diego Parks Foundation
[2:49:15]
and we want to thank you for
[2:49:16]
restoring funding to ac dc
[2:49:20]
hours and wi fi last year.
[2:49:21]
And we're going to ask you to
[2:49:22]
do the same this year.
[2:49:23]
We want to remind you Parks and
[2:49:27]
Recreation is an essential
[2:49:28]
service that provides help
[2:49:33]
safety and education as our
[2:49:33]
communities become increasingly
[2:49:34]
dense.
[2:49:34]
They're not going to have
[2:49:35]
backyards.
[2:49:39]
Parks are going to be
[2:49:39]
essential.
[2:49:40]
The other thing I want to say
[2:49:45]
is that I'm going to apologize
[2:49:46]
for Andy Fields and his team up
[2:49:46]
front.
[2:49:50]
But there has been an
[2:49:51]
exponential growth at
[2:49:51]
the management level in Park
[2:49:57]
and Rec and we think that there
[2:49:57]
is an opportunity to in
[2:50:03]
the short run maybe consolidate
[2:50:03]
some of those positions.
[2:50:04]
For the meantime, while we're
[2:50:09]
in budget crisis rather than
[2:50:09]
doing cutbacks we also believe
[2:50:14]
you could push back opening of
[2:50:15]
new parks.
[2:50:16]
I know that you off so I'm at
[2:50:20]
least doing equal opportunity
[2:50:21]
for some people off.
[2:50:22]
The other thing to off
[2:50:26]
the public to be totally fair.
[2:50:27]
We do not need rec groups at
[2:50:28]
every park.
[2:50:33]
You could actually do them so
[2:50:33]
that they're limited to one in
[2:50:34]
a council district.
[2:50:38]
If you look at the attendance
[2:50:39]
of rec councils they're very
[2:50:39]
small.
[2:50:41]
Thank you for that Concluding
[2:50:41]
comment.
[2:50:54]
>> Ramsay's No thank you guys
[2:50:55]
for doing this.
[2:50:55]
>> I am kind of impressed with
[2:50:56]
a little bit of the work you
[2:51:00]
guys have done.
[2:51:01]
I want to thank you guys for
[2:51:02]
all that.
[2:51:02]
It was nice to see the overtime
[2:51:03]
again for police.
[2:51:06]
You know, I've been asking for
[2:51:06]
reform on that aspect.
[2:51:11]
What I wanted to talk about was
[2:51:12]
I know that we're in a budget
[2:51:13]
crunch and I know the parks and
[2:51:14]
everything are on the line but
[2:51:17]
we need to be really looking at
[2:51:18]
the stakes of the immigration
[2:51:18]
crisis right now.
[2:51:23]
And what I mean by that is
[2:51:24]
we're a few steps ahead of
[2:51:25]
the Holocaust right now and we
[2:51:25]
need to get on with it.
[2:51:29]
>> Because yesterday I went to
[2:51:30]
a detention facility and that
[2:51:31]
was my first time going And
[2:51:35]
I've seen pictures of videos of
[2:51:35]
it But standing in front of it
[2:51:36]
and just seeing what a massive
[2:51:37]
facility this and knowing that
[2:51:41]
there are women and children in
[2:51:41]
there.
[2:51:42]
From my side it just felt so
[2:51:46]
disgusting and it's bad Like
[2:51:47]
while we were there we had to
[2:51:48]
leave at 330 because they
[2:51:53]
weren't going to allow anyone
[2:51:54]
to go outside into the backyard
[2:51:54]
until all protesters had left.
[2:51:58]
So there was a strict deadline
[2:51:59]
by the time we had to be out of
[2:52:00]
there so that they could
[2:52:01]
actually see the sign before
[2:52:04]
they went to sleep like that's
[2:52:04]
that's the kind of depravity
[2:52:05]
that we're talking about.
[2:52:11]
And but right now they're
[2:52:11]
sending pregnant minors to
[2:52:12]
Texas.
[2:52:12]
That's a place where it's
[2:52:13]
illegal to have an abortion And
[2:52:16]
none of that none of this is an
[2:52:17]
accident.
[2:52:17]
Like these people are our
[2:52:18]
enemies Like we need to be
[2:52:22]
aware of this.
[2:52:23]
>> Like I know they want a
[2:52:28]
budget crunch but yeah.
[2:52:29]
Thank you for that concluding
[2:52:29]
comment That does include
[2:52:30]
public comment here in council
[2:52:34]
chambers going to those
[2:52:35]
participating remotely.
[2:52:35]
Again it'll be a minute and a
[2:52:36]
half each.
[2:52:39]
We have ten speakers in
[2:52:39]
the virtual queue starting with
[2:52:40]
Kessler and Catherine Douglas.
[2:52:45]
Then after that is Madison and
[2:52:46]
then Laurie Lipman.
[2:52:47]
>> Catherine, if you can
[2:52:47]
please.
[2:52:51]
I'm Catherine Douglas.
[2:52:52]
It goes without saying that
[2:52:52]
public safety is your number
[2:52:56]
one responsibility as you work
[2:52:56]
on the 2027 budget you must
[2:52:57]
start afresh with zero based
[2:52:58]
budgeting across the board.
[2:53:02]
There is a need for more
[2:53:03]
frontline workers and less
[2:53:03]
middle management.
[2:53:04]
Many city duties should be
[2:53:08]
outsourced to experts who can
[2:53:09]
do the job for less.
[2:53:10]
San Diego deserve an honest
[2:53:13]
assessment of our pension
[2:53:14]
liabilities, the structural
[2:53:14]
deficit and the real cost of
[2:53:19]
deferred infrastructure Not
[2:53:20]
assumptions, not optimistic
[2:53:20]
projections.
[2:53:21]
Real numbers.
[2:53:26]
Pension obligations must be
[2:53:26]
honored but failing to plan for
[2:53:27]
them responsibly deepens
[2:53:27]
the deficit.
[2:53:32]
Delaying infrastructure repairs
[2:53:33]
only guarantees higher cost
[2:53:38]
costs later and without a clear
[2:53:38]
financial picture.
[2:53:39]
Budgeting becomes guesswork
[2:53:39]
instead of stewardship.
[2:53:44]
This is this isn't about blame.
[2:53:45]
It's about accountability.
[2:53:50]
Before raising taxes, cutting
[2:53:50]
services or approving new
[2:53:51]
programs show the public
[2:53:56]
exactly where the city stands.
[2:53:57]
This is the minimum standard
[2:53:57]
for responsible governance.
[2:54:02]
No more guesswork that has seen
[2:54:02]
disastrous results such as
[2:54:03]
the trash fees and the Balboa
[2:54:03]
parking rollout.
[2:54:08]
Thank you.
[2:54:08]
>> Thank you.
[2:54:09]
Next is Madison if you can
[2:54:13]
please on mute.
[2:54:14]
All right.
[2:54:14]
Thank you.
[2:54:17]
As you consider the 2027
[2:54:18]
budget, I urge you to
[2:54:19]
prioritize investments that
[2:54:23]
reduce long term city costs by
[2:54:24]
strengthening public health now
[2:54:24]
especially when it comes to
[2:54:29]
youth cannabis exposure.
[2:54:29]
Last week the Public Health
[2:54:30]
Institute announced findings
[2:54:31]
from a major study published in
[2:54:35]
jama Health Forum.
[2:54:35]
The study followed over 400,000
[2:54:36]
adolescents and young adults
[2:54:41]
and found that teens who
[2:54:41]
reported past year cannabis use
[2:54:42]
had double the risk of
[2:54:46]
developing psychotic disorders
[2:54:47]
and double the risk of
[2:54:47]
developing bipolar disorder in
[2:54:48]
young adulthood.
[2:54:52]
They also a significantly
[2:54:53]
higher risk of depression and
[2:54:53]
anxiety.
[2:54:58]
Untreated mental illness shows
[2:54:58]
up everywhere in our local
[2:54:59]
spending.
[2:54:59]
Behavioral health Services
[2:55:04]
Homelessness Response.
[2:55:04]
Emergency room visits, law
[2:55:05]
enforcement interactions and
[2:55:06]
lost productivity.
[2:55:10]
So prevention efforts would be
[2:55:10]
fiscally responsible.
[2:55:11]
The study also found high rates
[2:55:15]
of cannabis use among youth
[2:55:15]
enrolled in Medicaid and those
[2:55:16]
living in more
[2:55:20]
socioeconomically deprived
[2:55:21]
neighborhoods.
[2:55:22]
So here are just two ideas As
[2:55:25]
you shape the 2027 budget.
[2:55:26]
Ensure strong enforcement of
[2:55:26]
local regulations that reduce
[2:55:31]
youth exposure and high potency
[2:55:31]
product promotion.
[2:55:32]
And second evaluate cannabis
[2:55:37]
related impact through a public
[2:55:37]
health cost lens not just
[2:55:42]
projected revenue.
[2:55:43]
If we want to reduce city costs
[2:55:43]
over time we must reduce
[2:55:44]
preventable harm.
[2:55:48]
Now thank you.
[2:55:53]
Next, Laurie after that is are
[2:55:54]
you Laurie?
[2:55:58]
Please unmute.
[2:55:59]
Hello and can you hear me?
[2:55:59]
Yes Please proceed.
[2:55:59]
Okay.
[2:56:04]
Thank you for including
[2:56:05]
the public in this process.
[2:56:08]
I urge the City Council to
[2:56:09]
prioritize two public safety
[2:56:09]
the kind that helps communities
[2:56:14]
not just survive but thrive.
[2:56:15]
That means invest in education
[2:56:16]
deeply affordable low income
[2:56:20]
housing not the vague category
[2:56:20]
of affordable and ensuring
[2:56:21]
access to comprehensive medical
[2:56:25]
care.
[2:56:26]
It also means rethinking what
[2:56:31]
does what does make us safer.
[2:56:32]
I'm asking you to decrease
[2:56:32]
police funding and cancel
[2:56:35]
the contract with Block
[2:56:36]
surveillance and replacing Do
[2:56:37]
not prevent crime or build
[2:56:37]
trust.
[2:56:42]
A healthy sustainable,
[2:56:42]
productive and joyful city is
[2:56:43]
built through investment in
[2:56:44]
people, not expanded
[2:56:48]
enforcement.
[2:56:48]
>> Thank you very much.
[2:56:49]
Thank you.
[2:56:50]
Next is Aria If you can please
[2:56:59]
unmute.
[2:56:59]
>> Good evening.
[2:57:00]
My name is Aria Grossman and
[2:57:00]
the policy manager articulate
[2:57:04]
San Diego and I'm urging you to
[2:57:05]
fund the Vision zero
[2:57:08]
Coalition's budget priorities
[2:57:09]
two one Fix the fatal 15 to
[2:57:09]
Funds Management Plan
[2:57:14]
implementation while
[2:57:15]
prioritizing school towns as
[2:57:16]
the Transportation Department
[2:57:17]
intends and three fund funding
[2:57:18]
implementation.
[2:57:19]
The City of San Diego has not
[2:57:20]
made progress on equipment ten
[2:57:21]
road deaths Nearly every
[2:57:24]
councilmember named road safety
[2:57:24]
is a priority.
[2:57:25]
Safety advocates are telling
[2:57:28]
you that these three funding
[2:57:29]
requests will save lives.
[2:57:29]
>> If you're serious about
[2:57:30]
Vision Zero, please fund these
[2:57:33]
priorities.
[2:57:34]
I understand that it's a tough
[2:57:35]
budget year.
[2:57:35]
However, transportation dollars
[2:57:39]
are not subject to the same
[2:57:39]
tradeoffs.
[2:57:40]
The Transportation Department
[2:57:40]
budget relies on state and
[2:57:44]
federal formula funding which
[2:57:45]
must be spent on transportation
[2:57:46]
and this funding increased in
[2:57:50]
the city budget last year.
[2:57:51]
I know you're facing difficult
[2:57:51]
choices.
[2:57:52]
We heard someone say earlier
[2:57:53]
that we shouldn't fund speed
[2:57:55]
management plan implementation
[2:57:56]
and instead support libraries.
[2:57:56]
I want to make clear that this
[2:58:00]
tradeoff does not exist.
[2:58:01]
Transportation funding can only
[2:58:01]
be spent on transportation.
[2:58:02]
What I'm asking you to do is
[2:58:05]
choose these safety
[2:58:06]
improvements over routine road
[2:58:06]
maintenance No other city
[2:58:10]
services Please fund these
[2:58:11]
requests to save lives.
[2:58:11]
>> Thank you.
[2:58:11]
Thank you.
[2:58:15]
The five minute timer did
[2:58:15]
conclude during that speaker
[2:58:16]
There are 14 speakers with
[2:58:17]
their hands raised, no
[2:58:20]
additional speakers will be
[2:58:20]
taken.
[2:58:21]
>> guthrie Leonard if you can
[2:58:24]
please unmute.
[2:58:25]
>> Hi, can you hear me?
[2:58:26]
Yes.
[2:58:26]
Please proceed.
[2:58:26]
Hi.
[2:58:30]
Thank you guys so much for
[2:58:31]
starting so early on this and
[2:58:31]
including us.
[2:58:35]
It really means a lot to have
[2:58:36]
our voices heard.
[2:58:40]
I love what Aria said on Vision
[2:58:40]
Zero.
[2:58:41]
I don't have anything to add to
[2:58:41]
that.
[2:58:42]
I think those are all worthy
[2:58:44]
goals for our transportation
[2:58:45]
funding.
[2:58:46]
And I also want to talk briefly
[2:58:50]
about the 215 bus which is from
[2:58:50]
sdsu to downtown.
[2:58:55]
I think this bus deserves
[2:58:55]
further investment.
[2:58:56]
It was envisioned as more than
[2:59:00]
it is now and I think that
[2:59:00]
money is well spent and results
[2:59:01]
in higher ridership which would
[2:59:05]
you know, fulfill the money
[2:59:05]
we're spending on it.
[2:59:06]
And I also just want to say
[2:59:10]
that when it comes to
[2:59:10]
transportation spending,
[2:59:11]
especially when it comes to
[2:59:15]
roads, bike infrastructure and
[2:59:16]
transit infrastructure lasts
[2:59:16]
longer than resurfacing.
[2:59:20]
So if we're going to spend this
[2:59:21]
money in a way that makes it
[2:59:25]
count, I think it's worth it to
[2:59:25]
spend it on the stuff that's
[2:59:26]
going to last the longest And
[2:59:27]
in this case that's active in
[2:59:30]
public transportation.
[2:59:31]
>> So please take that into
[2:59:32]
account when you are choosing
[2:59:32]
where those dollars go.
[2:59:33]
Thank you.
[2:59:36]
Thank you.
[2:59:36]
Next is asthma.
[2:59:37]
Asthma.
[2:59:41]
If you can please unmute.
[2:59:42]
>> Hi, my name is Asma Abdi.
[2:59:46]
i'm a constituent of district
[2:59:47]
three and I'm here speaking in
[2:59:47]
my personal capacity as a
[2:59:48]
concerned citizen.
[2:59:52]
I was born and raised in San
[2:59:52]
Diego.
[2:59:53]
I'm a daughter of immigrants.
[2:59:54]
Our families did not leave a
[2:59:57]
frying pan just to end up in a
[2:59:57]
pressure cooker.
[2:59:58]
We need protection and we need
[2:59:59]
investment and vulnerable
[3:00:01]
communities especially at a
[3:00:02]
time when so many families are
[3:00:03]
feeling uncertainty.
[3:00:07]
We recently had a lot of rain
[3:00:07]
in San Diego and it's clear
[3:00:08]
the city is not investing in
[3:00:09]
proper stormwater
[3:00:09]
infrastructure.
[3:00:11]
We need to make sure that at
[3:00:12]
the very least people are
[3:00:13]
provided with basic human needs
[3:00:16]
such as affordable housing for
[3:00:17]
very low and low income
[3:00:18]
families as well as a decrease
[3:00:21]
in police funding and canceling
[3:00:22]
contracts with flock which has
[3:00:26]
been proven to share data with
[3:00:26]
ice.
[3:00:27]
So as you consider the budget I
[3:00:28]
urge you please don't balance
[3:00:31]
the budget on the backs of
[3:00:32]
immigrant black immigrant and
[3:00:33]
refugee communities communities
[3:00:36]
that are marginalized and we
[3:00:37]
need protection now more than
[3:00:37]
ever.
[3:00:38]
So please invest in our
[3:00:38]
communities.
[3:00:41]
Thank you.
[3:00:41]
Thank you, Sally.
[3:00:42]
If you can please.
[3:00:45]
I'm you.
[3:00:46]
>> Thank you.
[3:00:51]
I do appreciate this Early time
[3:00:51]
for getting input from people
[3:00:56]
but didn't do a great job in
[3:01:00]
promoting this Obviously with
[3:01:01]
the number of people online let
[3:01:01]
alone in person.
[3:01:05]
I wanted to request that you
[3:01:10]
cancel flock put the money
[3:01:10]
towards the safety of
[3:01:15]
the people and the welfare of
[3:01:16]
the people and for me that
[3:01:19]
means not the police but
[3:01:25]
towards parks and library.
[3:01:26]
I'm not saying you have to
[3:01:30]
create new ones Nets etc..
[3:01:33]
I agree with the vision Zero
[3:01:33]
efforts to slow speeds
[3:01:39]
especially in the areas with
[3:01:39]
the with the number of deaths
[3:01:43]
that we have this past year.
[3:01:44]
It's still still too high.
[3:01:48]
I'd also like to request that
[3:01:49]
you work on the middle
[3:01:53]
management level of jobs.
[3:01:58]
I think that's where a lot of
[3:01:58]
the cuts are.
[3:02:02]
The people that are on
[3:02:03]
the ground need to be able to
[3:02:04]
do their work but the middle
[3:02:07]
management I think in a lot of
[3:02:08]
instances can be combined.
[3:02:12]
>> Thank you.
[3:02:13]
Please consider before igniting
[3:02:18]
as communities of concern and
[3:02:18]
our stormwater.
[3:02:19]
Thank you for that concluding
[3:02:21]
comment.
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>> Next is Samantha Schumer.
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>> Hi, good evening Council.
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Thank you so much for
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the opportunity to speak on
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such a critical issue.
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We are in a serious budget
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crisis not only in our city but
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our county, our state and our
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nation.
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And it's time for our leaders
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to take serious looks at
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revenue options that don't
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punish our working families but
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hold those accountable who have
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taken advantage of tax breaks
[3:02:55]
for decades at our city.
[3:02:56]
I think it's time to make
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entities like Airbnb pay their
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fair share and I'm really
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encouraged to see council
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taking a serious look at items
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that will bring in revenue to
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our city that we so desperately
[3:03:09]
need to keep our roads safe, to
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keep our kids safe and have
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access to parks and clean air
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and all sorts of wonderful
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things that our city provides
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and I am in huge support of any
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revenue measures that hold
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those entities accountable who
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are again like I said, not
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serving working families.
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And I think fundamentally this
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is a moral crisis.
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We have served our communities
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for so long to the point where
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basic things like storm water
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drainage are not being met and
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we can't sit around waiting any
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longer for answers.
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It's time to take serious
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action.
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We have The Waltons, Indiegogo
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and I really encourage
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the council to look to address
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that in.
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Q Thank you.
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Next is I phone if you can
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please unmute I, I can you can
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you hear me Diana?
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>> Yes.
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Please proceed.
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Hey, that's Michael Schmidt.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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I was I'm calling to point out
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I think part of the budget
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should go to tation and
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especially to fixing the roads.
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But I appreciate all of you and
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also for everyone.
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Thank you very much to all of
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you guys.
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>> Okay.
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Okay.
[3:04:38]
Thank you.
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Next is 8700 If you can please
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unmute.
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Thank you Jason 53 Okay.
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I want our library parks equity
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Fair immigration Internet
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access kpi as kpi KPIs in all
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departments.
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We need to get started on
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whatever we can do in the f y
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27 budget to fund those.
[3:05:13]
The cuts are very interesting
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and what's being presented I'm
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very surprised about the cuts
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being asked for or suggested in
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parks.
[3:05:24]
It makes sense in a way that
[3:05:24]
they're doable And yes I'm I'm
[3:05:28]
for the less middle management
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and in tweaking that
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coordinating it combining it
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and somehow I like the idea of
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maybe maybe maybe on
[3:05:38]
the outsourcing to pay less Now
[3:05:44]
I want to see oh gosh there's
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just not enough time.
[3:05:47]
I want to say one thing I'm
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looking at a new way of us to
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come together is once San Diego
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and I won't go into it now I'll
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look forward to the budget
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meeting committee meeting or
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something but just wanted to
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put that out there.
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I think we need to enlarge our
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one people pocket to council
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PRESIDENT Pro Tim Lee You said
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something that really really
[3:06:06]
woke me up and I don't know
[3:06:10]
what to do with it.
[3:06:10]
You said I think it was very
[3:06:13]
recently at 80 and I think you
[3:06:14]
said what to do on a daily
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basis to remove the structural
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budget deficit.
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>> So I think we're doing it
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now in a way but I want to know
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more about that so maybe you
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can save your time if you could
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include it.
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My apologies.
[3:06:29]
Thank you, sir.
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Thank you.
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Sorry.
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And if you can please unmute
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after that is Berlin.
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>> Good evening City Council.
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My name is Ian Embry and I'm
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the advocacy and community
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manager with the San Diego
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County Bicycle Coalition.
[3:06:42]
I'm calling in tonight to ask
[3:06:45]
that you include the vision
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Zero Coalitions by Budget asks
[3:06:46]
for your upcoming for this
[3:06:50]
upcoming fiscal year.
[3:06:51]
As a reminder they are to fund
[3:06:53]
improvements to the fatal 15
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intersections fund
[3:06:54]
the associated budget requests
[3:06:54]
related to the speed management
[3:06:58]
plan and create a dedicated
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fund to delight intersections
[3:06:59]
across the city.
[3:07:03]
Increasingly kids across
[3:07:03]
the city are dying because of
[3:07:04]
our city's inaction on
[3:07:05]
the traffic safety crisis.
[3:07:08]
Cities around the world have
[3:07:08]
figured out how to reach
[3:07:09]
the Vision Zero goal.
[3:07:12]
When budget season comes along
[3:07:13]
in those cities they allocate
[3:07:14]
significant funds to keep their
[3:07:14]
citizens safe.
[3:07:17]
I wish I could ask for
[3:07:18]
significant funds but instead
[3:07:18]
I'm asking for pennies on
[3:07:21]
the dollar to keep us safe.
[3:07:22]
We're asking for cost effective
[3:07:23]
solutions to save lives, do it
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for our kids, our seniors, our
[3:07:27]
walkers, our riders, Our
[3:07:31]
drivers Do it for all of us.
[3:07:32]
>> Thank you.
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Thank you.
[3:07:37]
Next is Berlin.
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If you can please unmute Berlin
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>> I do see that you've unmuted
[3:07:51]
but we do not hear you here in
[3:07:51]
council chambers.
[3:07:52]
Not sure if the mic if
[3:07:55]
the device you're speaking into
[3:07:55]
MAY be muted.
[3:07:56]
You hear me now?
[3:07:56]
Yes.
[3:07:59]
Please proceed.
[3:08:00]
>> Hey, I'm here on behalf of
[3:08:04]
Mitzi Kahn today and I'm
[3:08:04]
calling because we want to
[3:08:05]
encourage all of you to take a
[3:08:06]
serious look.
[3:08:09]
Maximize city efficiency.
[3:08:10]
And I'm here to point out one
[3:08:14]
concrete action that you could
[3:08:15]
take which is to allow
[3:08:15]
the Parks and Recreation
[3:08:19]
Department to do repairs and
[3:08:20]
house the current system to
[3:08:24]
carry out park improvements Is
[3:08:24]
too lengthy, too lengthy and
[3:08:25]
too costly By doing projects in
[3:08:29]
house.
[3:08:29]
They can address the backlog of
[3:08:30]
maintenance requests and reduce
[3:08:34]
the much higher costs required
[3:08:35]
to carry out major repairs.
[3:08:38]
When the park reaches a crisis
[3:08:39]
point, complex projects can
[3:08:39]
always be sent to specialized
[3:08:43]
teams.
[3:08:44]
But please let them do
[3:08:44]
the small projects to save time
[3:08:48]
to save money.
[3:08:49]
And this could be a net zero
[3:08:49]
expense if you really look into
[3:08:50]
it.
[3:08:53]
So if you have any questions
[3:08:54]
feel free to reach out to me
[3:08:54]
again.
[3:08:55]
We'll be circling with your
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offices.
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Thank you.
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>> If you can please unmute.
[3:09:07]
>> Good evening Council
[3:09:08]
members.
[3:09:08]
I just want to stress my
[3:09:11]
concern about any additional
[3:09:12]
cuts to libraries and parks and
[3:09:12]
rec.
[3:09:17]
Those were already cut last
[3:09:18]
year so that would be
[3:09:18]
the second time these
[3:09:21]
communities folks that need
[3:09:22]
these libraries and rec centers
[3:09:23]
because they often cannot
[3:09:26]
afford the private solutions of
[3:09:27]
buying books Every time you
[3:09:28]
want to read or paying for
[3:09:31]
specific class it's much more
[3:09:32]
expensive not at a rec center.
[3:09:33]
So this will be the second year
[3:09:36]
that these communities face
[3:09:37]
cuts and I think that's deeply
[3:09:37]
concerning.
[3:09:41]
And it's ultimately a
[3:09:41]
distributional choice.
[3:09:42]
It's no it's a tax by any other
[3:09:46]
means to force these people to
[3:09:46]
lose that service or now have
[3:09:47]
to pay for it out of pocket.
[3:09:51]
So we are concerned about fees
[3:09:51]
or taxes.
[3:09:52]
Ultimately the people who will
[3:09:56]
bear this will be those who
[3:09:56]
have the least resources which
[3:09:57]
is deeply concerning And I hope
[3:09:58]
we can find other solutions to
[3:10:03]
this.
[3:10:04]
Yeah, I mean I'm well aware
[3:10:05]
that there are tradeoffs.
[3:10:08]
I feel like blaming middle
[3:10:09]
missing middle management is
[3:10:12]
not always the exactly the best
[3:10:12]
solution.
[3:10:13]
There's tradeoffs.
[3:10:14]
I think city workers provide
[3:10:17]
great resources and I in fact
[3:10:18]
wish there were more city
[3:10:19]
resources to manage how where
[3:10:22]
the parking implementation went
[3:10:23]
I feel like that would actually
[3:10:23]
have made it better.
[3:10:24]
So I think there's a true
[3:10:25]
tradeoff there.
[3:10:27]
So blaming it on this so-called
[3:10:28]
middle management will require
[3:10:29]
a tradeoff as well.
[3:10:32]
Hard decisions to come but I
[3:10:33]
want to make sure the emphasis
[3:10:34]
on the low income folks are not
[3:10:35]
borne the bearing the brunt of
[3:10:40]
this crisis.
[3:10:40]
Thank you.
[3:10:44]
Kevin, if you can please unmute
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Kevin I can unmute for you if
[3:10:51]
you can unmute by pressing.
[3:10:56]
There you go.
[3:10:56]
No With each other?
[3:10:57]
No.
[3:10:57]
Okay.
[3:10:59]
Can you hear me?
[3:10:59]
Yes.
[3:11:00]
Please proceed.
[3:11:03]
Okay.
[3:11:04]
Hello, Council members.
[3:11:05]
I just wanted to talk to you
[3:11:08]
guys about the budget So it
[3:11:09]
seems like you guys have been I
[3:11:14]
think misallocating some of
[3:11:14]
the budget So I've been a
[3:11:15]
little bit disappointed with
[3:11:18]
the police budget So I'm ad1
[3:11:19]
resident and it's been
[3:11:20]
disappointing to see that you
[3:11:23]
guys have been talking about
[3:11:24]
the police being underfunded.
[3:11:25]
However there has been parking
[3:11:28]
disputes and all Hoya a couple
[3:11:29]
of months ago where 11 cop cars
[3:11:32]
showed up to the parking
[3:11:33]
dispute 11 cop cars yet you
[3:11:34]
guys claim that the place is
[3:11:34]
being underfunded.
[3:11:38]
So I think that would be one
[3:11:42]
area to not necessarily cut
[3:11:43]
the budget but to reallocate
[3:11:43]
where officers are going And if
[3:11:44]
there are some areas that are
[3:11:45]
understaffed because clearly
[3:11:46]
some areas are being
[3:11:51]
overstaffed, I think it's also
[3:11:51]
important to make sure that
[3:11:55]
we're funding the trolley
[3:11:56]
system.
[3:11:56]
The trial is actually one of my
[3:11:57]
favorite parts of San Diego and
[3:12:00]
I think would be great if we
[3:12:01]
kept it funded also with us.
[3:12:04]
b 79 If you guys expanded
[3:12:05]
the trolley that would also be
[3:12:06]
great Get more housing and more
[3:12:08]
trolley.
[3:12:09]
So you could definitely use
[3:12:10]
some more trolley.
[3:12:12]
So that be great.
[3:12:13]
>> Um I think the parks and
[3:12:18]
libraries also are really
[3:12:18]
important so make sure you guys
[3:12:22]
are funding those as well.
[3:12:27]
>> So um yeah and so that's
[3:12:28]
overall yeah I think just
[3:12:32]
reallocate some funding.
[3:12:32]
>> That'd be great.
[3:12:32]
Thank you.
[3:12:36]
Next is Blair Beekman.
[3:12:41]
If you can please unmute.
[3:12:41]
All right.
[3:12:42]
Thank you.
[3:12:45]
Thanks for this meeting
[3:12:46]
tonight.
[3:12:51]
I was interested from my public
[3:12:51]
comment non agenda public
[3:12:52]
comment today What I failed to
[3:12:56]
mention the relevance I think
[3:12:57]
to this meeting today is that
[3:12:58]
you know it's Oakland and San
[3:12:59]
Jose are both they're working
[3:13:01]
proactive really on items and
[3:13:02]
issues to deal to address this
[3:13:05]
new Trump administration but
[3:13:06]
San Diego also worked well
[3:13:11]
previously on Park issues and
[3:13:12]
you took a break on more
[3:13:13]
surveillance tech for Park.
[3:13:15]
You just have to really
[3:13:16]
consider, you know, what
[3:13:17]
the Trump administration's
[3:13:17]
going to do with data
[3:13:20]
collection things.
[3:13:21]
I think we're afraid now We've
[3:13:21]
seen best practices.
[3:13:25]
We're afraid to move into
[3:13:26]
the future of best practices.
[3:13:27]
I explained ideas from Oakland
[3:13:30]
and Canada that they are
[3:13:31]
working proactively.
[3:13:35]
I hope San Diego can do it.
[3:13:36]
It's been an election year.
[3:13:37]
i hope you don't You're not
[3:13:37]
afraid of things.
[3:13:40]
I hope you're not afraid that
[3:13:41]
I've been saying consistently
[3:13:41]
that we can be addressing
[3:13:45]
the future of tech and we can
[3:13:45]
be reducing tech and still
[3:13:46]
offering the same public safety
[3:13:50]
for a lower cost.
[3:13:51]
I know and a tremendous budget
[3:13:51]
savings we can be working on
[3:13:55]
block a huge funding well
[3:13:55]
principled future in your
[3:13:58]
vendor and I hope you guys take
[3:13:59]
the time and effort to want to
[3:13:59]
do that sort of stuff.
[3:14:02]
Let's really do that in 2026
[3:14:03]
and from that I hope and 2027
[3:14:08]
we're dealing with a new form
[3:14:08]
of budget issues Actually at
[3:14:09]
the end of this covid era we
[3:14:12]
have to be talking about new
[3:14:12]
forms of money management and I
[3:14:13]
hope you guys are up to those.
[3:14:17]
I'm Thank you.
[3:14:17]
>> Thank you.
[3:14:18]
Thank you.
[3:14:20]
If you raised your hand after
[3:14:21]
the five minute timer you will
[3:14:22]
not be taken tonight but you
[3:14:22]
can definitely continue to
[3:14:23]
submit your comments through
[3:14:26]
city Clerk at San diego.Gov and
[3:14:26]
those will be distributed and
[3:14:28]
there'll be other opportunities
[3:14:29]
for 937 If you can please
[3:14:34]
unmute And then it's McLean
[3:14:35]
photography.
[3:14:36]
Those are our final speakers
[3:14:41]
for 937 Please unmute.
[3:14:46]
>> Hi I'm a I'm a constituent
[3:14:47]
of district three Are you
[3:14:48]
the same Steven Whiteman I
[3:14:52]
noticed that you are also
[3:14:52]
appearing at the Democratic
[3:14:53]
Party Metro West meeting
[3:14:54]
tonight I need supposed to be
[3:14:54]
working to serve
[3:14:59]
the constituents right now Also
[3:15:02]
I support funding for
[3:15:03]
transportation with the trolley
[3:15:12]
and the busses.
[3:15:12]
>> Does that concludes your
[3:15:13]
comments?
[3:15:16]
Yes thank you.
[3:15:17]
>> Next is McLean Photography.
[3:15:22]
If you can please unmute.
[3:15:22]
Good evening everyone.
[3:15:23]
Thanks for having this meeting
[3:15:27]
for us and letting us speak to
[3:15:28]
the public at 13.
[3:15:28]
So anyway so I'm from
[3:15:31]
Philadelphia but I'm in San
[3:15:32]
Diego for about 12 years right?
[3:15:33]
And I'm a local photographer
[3:15:36]
and a business man but prior to
[3:15:37]
coming here one of the things
[3:15:40]
that kind of got me on track to
[3:15:41]
change my life was the public
[3:15:41]
libraries.
[3:15:42]
So in my neighborhood in
[3:15:46]
Philadelphia, you know,
[3:15:46]
Westwood was pretty poor and we
[3:15:47]
had to go really far to even go
[3:15:50]
to a library and luckily in
[3:15:51]
Philadelphia the public
[3:15:51]
transportation is pretty good
[3:15:52]
So I had to take the train all
[3:15:55]
the way in the center city
[3:15:56]
right just to go to a good
[3:15:56]
library and use the free
[3:16:00]
services, you know, because I
[3:16:00]
was poor at the time.
[3:16:01]
So I think it's really
[3:16:02]
important for us to have access
[3:16:02]
to libraries.
[3:16:04]
Number one and reliable
[3:16:05]
transportation so that people
[3:16:08]
can have a way to change their
[3:16:09]
lives you know, learn research
[3:16:10]
networks and be in community
[3:16:14]
and also have, you know,
[3:16:15]
situations where for example,
[3:16:15]
the Malcolm x Library in
[3:16:18]
southeast San Diego there's a
[3:16:19]
new liberal center there across
[3:16:19]
the street.
[3:16:23]
My work is actually in that
[3:16:24]
behavioral health clinic again
[3:16:24]
because I think it's important
[3:16:25]
to have a community space where
[3:16:28]
people can actually congregate
[3:16:29]
but also heal and also research
[3:16:29]
what they're going to do with
[3:16:30]
their lives.
[3:16:32]
So for me once again library
[3:16:37]
transportation thank you for
[3:16:38]
Thank you.
[3:16:38]
Let us include public comment
[3:16:42]
on this item.
[3:16:42]
All right.
[3:16:43]
Thank you City clerk Again, as
[3:16:47]
I said, thank you everybody
[3:16:48]
that showed up in person and
[3:16:51]
those who participated remotely
[3:16:52]
Information item No motions
[3:16:53]
required But I want to turn
[3:16:53]
over to my council colleagues
[3:16:57]
If you have any additional
[3:16:57]
comments and we'll go first to
[3:17:01]
council member Ella Rivera.
[3:17:02]
Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[3:17:06]
Appreciate your comments.
[3:17:11]
Budget Chair Fosters Charles
[3:17:12]
yours as well and thank you to
[3:17:12]
the members of the public who
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participated tonight.
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I appreciate the opportunity to
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get the budget conversation
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started early this year because
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it is going to be so difficult
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and I think what is a positive
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is that there's no one
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pretending like we're not going
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to have difficult decisions or
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a hard conversation over
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the next several months.
[3:17:38]
But I do think it's important
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for us to kind of ask what this
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all is for.
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What are we actually aiming to
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be?
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And I do think we're I when I
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say we I mean the council I
[3:17:49]
mean the mayor's office.
[3:17:52]
I mean even the public to a
[3:17:53]
certain extent.
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What type of city are we
[3:17:57]
actually trying to be?
[3:17:58]
And I, I don't know that that's
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being articulated right now in
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a clear way that allows us to
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actually know what we're aiming
[3:18:06]
for Should we be should we just
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be slashing Are we satisfied
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with the amount of resources
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that we're working with?
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I don't hear that from
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the constituents who I engage
[3:18:17]
with the most.
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We obviously need to be as
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efficient with the dollars that
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we have as possible.
[3:18:22]
But you know, I think sometimes
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a fresh set of eyes can be
[3:18:28]
really useful And when folks
[3:18:32]
move to San Diego and they they
[3:18:33]
notice how our library system
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stacks up to other library
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systems in terms of per capita
[3:18:42]
investment, I think that's
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useful for us.
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I think it's useful for us to
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keep in mind that the cities
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that we often compare ourselves
[3:18:52]
to that are resource resourcing
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their library systems better
[3:18:54]
their park systems that are
[3:18:57]
their rec systems better.
[3:18:58]
It's they often have one thing
[3:18:59]
in common that we do not do
[3:19:02]
here in San Diego and that's
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ask those with the most to pay
[3:19:03]
their fair share.
[3:19:06]
So I know I've said this before
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I know I will say it again and
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it's probably getting old to a
[3:19:11]
lot of people but there is no
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way that in a city with this
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level of affluence with people
[3:19:17]
who are doing so well with
[3:19:20]
corporations that are making so
[3:19:21]
much that all of
[3:19:21]
the conversation should be
[3:19:24]
about cutting and then all of
[3:19:25]
the conversation should be
[3:19:29]
about reductions because we're
[3:19:34]
we can't ask residents to pay
[3:19:35]
more as if is not an option to
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pay those with much, much more
[3:19:40]
to simply pay to pay their fair
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share.
[3:19:44]
So I think about where we were
[3:19:45]
last year and how we dug deep
[3:19:49]
in order to preserve what we
[3:19:49]
determined to be essential
[3:19:50]
services And those were rec
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centers that families depend
[3:19:54]
on.
[3:19:55]
Those were libraries.
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The families depend on their
[3:19:56]
parks.
[3:19:58]
The neighborhoods depend on And
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I am under no illusions that
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this is not going to be
[3:20:03]
difficult.
[3:20:04]
I'm under no illusions that
[3:20:04]
we're not going to have to make
[3:20:05]
difficult decisions, that we're
[3:20:07]
going to have to make some
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reductions and some closures.
[3:20:09]
But I, I do very much hope that
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in this conversation we can in
[3:20:17]
a much more clear way determine
[3:20:18]
what type of city we want to be
[3:20:18]
over the long term so we can
[3:20:21]
start to aim for that because I
[3:20:22]
worry that instead we will have
[3:20:27]
is a balanced budget but a
[3:20:28]
balanced budget that doesn't
[3:20:33]
necessarily get us pointed in a
[3:20:33]
better direction over the long
[3:20:34]
term.
[3:20:36]
The last thing I will share is
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this I was I was moved by an
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article that kpbs published
[3:20:41]
last week.
[3:20:42]
The headline was Recreation
[3:20:42]
Centers to the Rescue
[3:20:45]
The Search for Affordable
[3:20:46]
Summer Camp.
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And this was just a great
[3:20:51]
reminder of how for families in
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and in parts of this city
[3:20:55]
absent our programing that this
[3:20:56]
city provides there there are
[3:21:00]
kids who would have nothing to
[3:21:00]
do and parents who would
[3:21:05]
despite working full time jobs
[3:21:06]
be left to explain to their
[3:21:09]
children why they have to sit
[3:21:10]
at home during the day instead
[3:21:14]
of being enriched and fulfilled
[3:21:19]
and connected to a city and I
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think that that's something
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that's very much worth fighting
[3:21:21]
for.
[3:21:24]
So again that having kind of
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continuous continued
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conversation about who it is in
[3:21:30]
this city that can't afford to
[3:21:31]
pay more and asking them to do
[3:21:31]
so it's making sure that we're
[3:21:34]
not giving city resources away
[3:21:38]
by not renewing leases that are
[3:21:39]
long overdue.
[3:21:43]
It's certainly making sure
[3:21:44]
we're managing the cities as
[3:21:44]
efficiently as possible.
[3:21:45]
But more than anything it's not
[3:21:48]
giving up on our parks.
[3:21:49]
It's not giving up on our rec
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centers, it's not giving up our
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libraries in a way that doesn't
[3:21:53]
increase it doesn't improve
[3:21:57]
service level and aim to make
[3:21:58]
this a better city for everyone
[3:21:59]
but especially our young
[3:21:59]
people.
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Thank you.
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>> Council PRESIDENT All right.
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Thank you.
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Council member Ella Rivera Not
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seeing anybody else I'd like to
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know My colleagues have had
[3:22:09]
other opportunities to talk
[3:22:12]
about budget and other
[3:22:12]
committee meetings.
[3:22:13]
There'll be plenty of more
[3:22:14]
opportunity to talk about
[3:22:17]
budgets So with that we will
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close this item and we will now
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adjourn Council to
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the regularly scheduled council
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meeting on Tuesday FEBRUARY
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24th, 2026 at ten a m.
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Again, thank you all for