[3:15] and

[3:16] Councilmember Lee is

[3:16] council PRESIDENT Personally my

[3:20] apologies because we check your

[3:21] mic.

[3:21] I just have to thank you so

[3:22] much.

[3:28] We can hear you loud and clear

[3:29] .

[3:29] Mm.

[4:19] Yeah

[4:19] .

[4:19] Good morning.

[4:23] I will now call the City

[4:24] council meeting on Monday MARCH

[4:25] 9th 2026 to order Clerk Please

[4:28] call the roll.

[4:29] Thank you.

[4:29] Council PRESIDENT Council

[4:30] Member Campbell Council Member

[4:33] Whitburn here.

[4:33] Councilmember Foster

[4:36] Councilmember Von Wilpert

[4:42] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[4:43] here.

[4:43] Thank you.

[4:44] Council Member Campo you here?

[4:47] Councilmember Moreno present

[4:48] Councilmember Ella Rivera and

[4:51] Council PRESIDENT LaCava

[4:52] present Also attending

[4:53] the meeting our city attorney

[4:53] Heather Ferber, independent

[4:57] budget analyst Charles Mollica

[4:58] and myself your city clerk Dana

[4:58] Fuentes.

[4:59] Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[5:01] Thank you and Council PRESIDENT

[5:02] Pro Tem Lee, Would you like to

[5:03] make your statement?

[5:03] >> Sure.

[5:07] I'm notifying the council that

[5:07] I'll be attending today's

[5:08] meeting remotely due to just

[5:09] cause relating to family health

[5:11] care needs pursuant to

[5:12] the Brown Act I am disclosing

[5:15] that there are no individuals

[5:15] 18 years of age or older

[5:16] present in the room with me and

[5:20] I will update that disclosure

[5:20] if anything changes during

[5:21] the course of the meeting.

[5:21] >> All right.

[5:22] Thank you, sir.

[5:25] And I see that council member

[5:26] Von Wolpert is entering

[5:27] chambers and I want to give a

[5:30] hearty welcome back to Council

[5:31] member Campo.

[5:31] I know you've bounced in a

[5:35] couple of times but it's good

[5:36] to see you back on the dais.

[5:36] Thank you.

[5:37] It's good to be back.

[5:40] A quorum is now present.

[5:41] We will begin this morning with

[5:41] an invocation by Clark Fuentes

[5:42] followed with the land

[5:44] acknowledgment and the Pledge

[5:44] of Allegiance led by council

[5:49] member You grant those who hold

[5:50] office in this spirit and this

[5:53] city the spirit of wisdom,

[5:54] charity and justice that was

[5:54] steadfast purpose.

[5:58] They MAY faithfully serve in

[5:58] their offices to promote

[5:59] the well-being of our people.

[6:03] >> We respectfully acknowledge

[6:04] that the culmination are

[6:04] the original inhabitants of

[6:08] the Unceded land now known as

[6:08] San Diego.

[6:09] Despite enduring the horrors of

[6:13] genocide and colonization,

[6:14] the Kumai spirit remains

[6:14] unbroken.

[6:15] We honor the resilience of

[6:18] their ancestors who fought to

[6:18] protect their culture and land.

[6:19] Today they carry their legacy

[6:23] forward ensuring that their

[6:23] traditions continue to thrive

[6:24] and gratitude and strength We

[6:28] stand with the committed nation

[6:28] connected to our past and

[6:29] committed to a thriving future.

[6:32] Please face the flag and over

[6:38] your heart Ready Begin with my

[6:39] duties to the flag of

[6:40] the United States of America

[6:42] and to the Republic for which

[6:43] it stands One nation under GOD

[6:45] indivisible with liberty and

[6:50] justice for all.

[6:55] All right, MADAM City Clerk,

[6:56] would you please go over how

[6:56] the public can offer their

[6:57] testimony?

[6:57] >> Thank you.

[6:59] I'd like to highlight the slide

[7:00] on the screen that reviews how

[7:01] the public can offer their

[7:01] public testimony during today's

[7:02] meeting.

[7:05] If you are in person please

[7:05] complete the speaker slip

[7:06] located at the entrance of

[7:07] chambers and bring it to

[7:10] the front of the room.

[7:10] No further in-person testimony

[7:11] will be taken once the council

[7:12] begins virtual testimony.

[7:14] For better meeting management

[7:15] purposes each speaker will have

[7:19] one minute per item per person

[7:19] .

[7:20] Maximum of three minutes of

[7:20] three or more items.

[7:21] Thank you.

[7:25] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[7:25] Thank you.

[7:26] With that please read

[7:26] the closed session items into

[7:27] the record.

[7:29] Conference with Legal Counsel

[7:29] Assists in Litigation pursuant

[7:30] to California Government Code

[7:33] Section 5495 6.91 Is this one

[7:33] Edward Fields versus City of

[7:38] San Diego.

[7:39] See us to Susan Enriquez versus

[7:39] City of San Diego c.

[7:41] S three Mary Brown at all

[7:41] versus Joe LaCava at all.

[7:45] Conference with Legal Counsel

[7:46] Significant exposure to

[7:46] litigation pursuant to

[7:49] California Government Code

[7:50] Section 54956.9 c as far as pre

[7:51] lit claim San Diego's County

[7:55] Regional Airport Authority and

[7:56] c.

[7:56] S five pre lit claim fireman's

[8:00] fund as secretary of Park place

[8:00] on Harbor hoa thank you council

[8:04] PRESIDENT All right and with

[8:05] that please proceed with public

[8:05] comment.

[8:06] I do not see any public comment

[8:08] speakers here in council

[8:09] chambers so I will start

[8:10] the five minute timer and go to

[8:14] those participating remotely.

[8:15] We currently have five speakers

[8:15] in the queue.

[8:16] Blair Beckman If you can please

[8:19] unmute and let me know which

[8:20] item or items you wish to speak

[8:28] to after that is 8700 Blair Hi

[8:29] Blair Beekman.

[8:32] I wanted to speak to item c us

[8:33] for okay, you'll have a minute.

[8:37] Please proceed.

[8:37] All right.

[8:37] Thank you.

[8:38] Blair Beekman.

[8:38] I hope my zoom is working okay.

[8:41] Sorry, but we'll cut out I very

[8:42] much But thank you that for on

[8:46] this item it appears the words

[8:51] this claim will involve damages

[8:51] to the San Diego County

[8:52] Regional Airport Authority

[8:55] property caused by

[8:56] the accidental release

[8:57] approximately 9.9 million

[9:00] gallons of wastewater from city

[9:01] Center's sanitary sewer system

[9:08] on JULY and JANUARY 16th, 2023

[9:08] .

[9:09] This item is called Significant

[9:10] exposure to litigation pursuant

[9:14] to California Government Code

[9:15] section such and such When you

[9:18] have significant exposure to

[9:19] litigation items on your closed

[9:20] session agendas you usually

[9:23] don't go into explanations and

[9:24] you do For this one I just

[9:24] wanted to thank you immensely

[9:29] that for as great as you guys

[9:29] can be and explanations at

[9:33] closed session time you took

[9:34] the extra time on this sort of

[9:34] item to give explanations

[9:38] That's just a lot of good work

[9:39] from yourselves.

[9:39] >> Thank you.

[9:39] Thank you.

[9:42] After that is 8700 if you can

[9:44] please unmute sorry.

[9:48] There you go.

[9:54] Yeah let me know which I'm

[9:55] sorry I got ahead of you.

[9:55] >> Go ahead If you can just let

[9:56] me know which item or items you

[9:59] wish to speak to please.

[10:02] >> Yes one, two, three and

[10:02] four.

[10:03] >> You'll have three minutes.

[10:04] Please proceed.

[10:08] Good morning.

[10:09] The first thing I wanted to say

[10:09] is thank you for showing up.

[10:13] All of you.

[10:14] It just it makes such a

[10:14] difference.

[10:17] I really, really appreciate

[10:18] that all of you show up and and

[10:19] just appreciate the entire city

[10:23] council and everyone So thank

[10:23] you.

[10:28] Okay On one long list of risks

[10:28] for riding a bike, this

[10:33] litigation is hard to avoid And

[10:38] my best direction on this is to

[10:39] the bicycle.

[10:40] To be your own safety advocate

[10:42] please.

[10:43] It really, really helps.

[10:43] Okay.

[10:47] And number two, it's really

[10:48] the thing that's number one

[10:49] except people are walking and

[10:49] walking is risky.

[10:53] I'm I'm a full time walker.

[10:54] Litigation can be expected on

[10:59] these trips and falls And again

[10:59] I'll say to the walkers now

[11:03] prevention it works I do it

[11:04] absolutely every single day and

[11:09] then I'm number three My

[11:13] direction on this is a prop to

[11:13] 18.

[11:14] It's such a strong support for

[11:19] the public and for everyone

[11:20] that wants their voices to be

[11:20] heard which the way they want

[11:24] to sleep on it For me though I

[11:25] 100 years without a fee is a

[11:29] lot of money in the pocket.

[11:30] So for me the big picture as a

[11:34] big family as one family is

[11:35] it's time to share the money.

[11:39] Our budget needs it now.

[11:40] Please help.

[11:40] Thank you.

[11:43] And number four I'd be

[11:44] interested in when you know

[11:48] Excuse me.

[11:49] I'd be interested in who and

[11:52] what caused the accident.

[11:53] 9.9 million gallons of waste

[11:58] water could it have been

[11:58] prevented?

[12:04] I I really appreciate the extra

[12:04] information on that as Blair

[12:05] said.

[12:09] So you have a beautiful day.

[12:09] A beautiful we thanks for

[12:10] listening up to all Thank you.

[12:14] Next is the original If you can

[12:15] please unmute and let me know

[12:16] which item or items you wish to

[12:20] speak to after you as Laurie's

[12:20] alternate I just for

[12:24] housekeeping purposes why did

[12:24] you collect them into consent

[12:25] and discussion before you've

[12:27] taken those separately account

[12:33] them all into one like this I

[12:33] can definitely email you but

[12:38] this is all on discussion or

[12:39] it's not It says consent and

[12:40] then on my three on discussion

[12:44] So all I'm saying is when

[12:44] you're presenting it that way

[12:45] you guys need to mitigate that

[12:48] so that you can make sure that

[12:49] you're doing it correctly

[12:49] because you should be hearing

[12:50] each discussion item on your

[12:54] own not acting like it's all on

[12:54] consent.

[12:55] So you've done proceed with

[13:00] which items you wish to speak

[13:00] to.

[13:01] Nothing's changing your time

[13:02] Them all of them.

[13:02] You'll have three minutes.

[13:03] Please proceed.

[13:05] So for the first two with

[13:06] the accidents and the roadways

[13:10] not being capped, it's you're

[13:11] still have many roadways that

[13:15] are not being taken care of and

[13:16] you seem to be putting in Sure

[13:17] bike lanes But why don't you

[13:20] fix the roads first before you

[13:20] go and add anything Because we

[13:21] don't need to be continuing to

[13:25] pay litigation settlements

[13:25] because you guys are failing to

[13:29] do so and see us three with

[13:30] this Proposition 218 This is a

[13:35] totally unconstitutional act

[13:36] that takes place because it is

[13:36] setting the bar so high that

[13:41] it's never going to be met So

[13:42] you circumvent the will of

[13:43] the people all the time

[13:43] especially when you're doing

[13:46] things like this And raising

[13:47] fees.

[13:47] You're never going to have

[13:48] enough protest That should be

[13:49] the reverse that you have

[13:52] enough people in approval of it

[13:53] that then you pass it.

[13:57] But it's you know, it's already

[13:58] been deemed unconstitutional So

[13:58] it shouldn't be something that

[14:02] you guys are even using And

[14:03] this is going to make us pay

[14:03] more money because you guys are

[14:04] doing that.

[14:08] But what you do is

[14:08] unconstitutional on a daily

[14:09] basis and you do circumvent

[14:13] the will and the voice of

[14:14] the people by the things you're

[14:15] doing like this when you're

[14:16] saying it like everything's on

[14:19] a Saturday if it whatever when

[14:20] things are on consent you group

[14:20] them all together and you

[14:21] expect everyone to, you know,

[14:24] talk about a bunch of items at

[14:25] one time and it's like you're

[14:30] never going to get what

[14:30] the people's opinion is because

[14:31] there's too much to talk about

[14:32] And then you guys just act like

[14:32] it's routine, go about your

[14:36] business And it's just really

[14:37] sad because on the same hand

[14:37] you sit there and act like you

[14:41] care about what the people say

[14:42] and you don't And it's very

[14:46] obvious especially the way that

[14:46] you treat the people.

[14:47] But this litigation as far as

[14:52] this waste water sewer spill,

[14:53] it's like I don't know if you

[14:53] guys are trying to be like

[14:57] Mexico or what but it's like

[14:58] you know, you can't even get

[14:59] Mexico to do that.

[15:00] What they need to do you'd

[15:04] rather engage with business

[15:05] with them and work with

[15:05] the county and let's test

[15:09] the people And you know like

[15:10] it's just crazy the things that

[15:14] happen and you know, now we're

[15:15] going to have to pay a lot more

[15:16] money just to fix what damage

[15:20] this did And it's like and we

[15:21] also have to pay to fix damage

[15:26] that's done from Mexico And

[15:26] it's like I mean I just at what

[15:27] point are things going to start

[15:31] to change where you guys

[15:32] actually we don't have all this

[15:33] kind of litigation all the time

[15:33] because of the failures of

[15:37] the city And then you guys you

[15:38] know all you do is you want

[15:39] more and more money from

[15:43] the people.

[15:44] What Why is that what you have

[15:44] enough Because it's going into

[15:48] pockets of people that it

[15:49] shouldn't be and contracts with

[15:50] people that you should it

[15:54] instead of doing what you

[15:55] should and people suffer

[15:55] because of it and it's

[16:00] ridiculous.

[16:00] People shouldn't have to suffer

[16:01] because of your mistakes on a

[16:02] regular daily basis and then

[16:07] pay for it on the back end your

[16:08] double dip in it.

[16:08] Thank you for concluding

[16:09] comment.

[16:12] There are two speakers on

[16:12] the queue No additional

[16:13] speakers will be taken.

[16:13] The five minute timer had

[16:14] concluded Very slow down if you

[16:17] can please unmute and let me

[16:17] know which item or items you

[16:18] wish to speak to.

[16:18] Good morning.

[16:23] Yes I'd like to speak to item c

[16:24] as three c as four and see us

[16:24] five.

[16:28] Please proceed And c has three

[16:29] of the ongoing issues to

[16:29] effectively implement

[16:34] the program are what really is

[16:35] upsetting so many San Diegans

[16:39] and I've mentioned this before

[16:40] I believe one of the council

[16:40] members responded to my

[16:41] question Where are these people

[16:45] who are delivering and

[16:46] switching out the old bins for

[16:46] the new bins Are they locals

[16:51] are the employees or

[16:51] the contractors?

[16:52] I like many in San Diego have

[16:57] had to place numerous calls and

[16:58] filed numerous requests to have

[17:02] the bins managed as I had

[17:03] directed months ago.

[17:04] The most recent delivery came a

[17:08] few days ago and when I went

[17:08] outside to thank them for

[17:09] bringing me the bin I requested

[17:14] in DECEMBER the truck was from

[17:15] out of state.

[17:16] The truck they were driving had

[17:16] plates from.

[17:17] I've forgotten if it was Texas

[17:21] or Oklahoma but this has been a

[17:21] consistent issue and

[17:22] the employees there were three

[17:23] of them sitting in the front

[17:27] seat I, I didn't ask them but

[17:27] they appear to be contractors,

[17:28] not employees.

[17:33] So the rollout has really been

[17:34] problematic and I think that's

[17:34] fueling this outrage over

[17:35] the cost.

[17:39] Let me to as far as the as far

[17:40] as both of these have to do

[17:41] with the severe flooding that

[17:44] took place around the midway in

[17:44] downtown area JANUARY 16th.

[17:45] This was one year before

[17:49] the Choice Creek flooding and

[17:50] this was an early warning to

[17:51] the city of the scale of

[17:51] flooding possible with our

[17:56] changes in climate and storm

[17:56] intensity.

[17:57] And looking back I was in

[18:01] the midway area when the sewage

[18:02] spill was occurring and you

[18:03] could smell the raw sewage in

[18:08] the drains as far as the Midway

[18:09] rosecrans area this was not

[18:09] isolated to the downtown area

[18:13] or the airport.

[18:14] This was a regional area in

[18:19] the very low sea level area

[18:20] around Midway where you want to

[18:20] build thousands of new homes

[18:26] and so I really encourage you

[18:26] to look at both of these

[18:31] lawsuits as an early warning of

[18:32] what is to come in the future

[18:33] and take a lead or take a cue

[18:37] from the Bay Area and start to

[18:38] examine shifts and breaks in

[18:38] infrastructure that's

[18:42] underground.

[18:43] What they're finding up in

[18:44] the San Francisco Bay area is

[18:44] that there are places that

[18:48] the sea level rise is pushing

[18:49] against the groundwater and

[18:50] shifting underground

[18:50] infrastructure and that's

[18:55] pretty much what happened with

[18:55] this case.

[18:56] The sewer lines were probably

[18:56] out of alignment.

[19:01] The emergency system shut down

[19:01] and the overflow went into

[19:02] the bay but also backed up into

[19:07] other communities.

[19:08] So as someone who has studied

[19:08] this who is working on

[19:09] legislation regarding climate

[19:13] change, who has worked with

[19:14] Scripps researchers on

[19:14] the intensity of these storms

[19:15] and the changes that's going to

[19:19] occur in our coastal areas.

[19:20] I want to encourage the Council

[19:20] to not just look at this from a

[19:24] litigation standpoint but from

[19:25] an infrastructure standpoint

[19:26] And if you are preparing then

[19:31] the next storm will be even

[19:31] worse.

[19:32] >> Thank you.

[19:37] Next speaker is John Stump.

[19:38] This is our final speaker.

[19:39] If you raise your hand after

[19:39] the five minute time for you to

[19:40] definitely submit your

[19:40] comments.

[19:42] The city clerk at San Diego dot

[19:43] gov MR. Somebody can please a

[19:48] new s There we are.

[19:49] Good morning everyone And it's

[19:53] going to be a long day.

[19:54] No, no, I understand this is

[19:55] solely on the individual items

[20:00] or is this public comment also

[20:01] this is on just the closed

[20:01] session agenda If you can let

[20:02] me know which item or items you

[20:06] wish to speak to on closed

[20:06] session items.

[20:06] Okay.

[20:10] So I get three minutes per

[20:10] person.

[20:11] Thank you very much.

[20:16] All of the items deal with

[20:17] users on city property or city

[20:22] easements and in preparation

[20:22] for an item later in the day

[20:28] I've been reviewing council

[20:29] policies concerning such uses

[20:40] and my concern is that staff

[20:41] other than the city attorney is

[20:46] interpreting council policies

[20:47] or legal requirements and that

[20:52] council policies are not being

[20:58] completely enforced for

[20:59] the requirement When any one

[21:04] uses any property in the city

[21:05] on several council policies is

[21:06] that they have sufficient

[21:10] liability insurance.

[21:11] And then the second thing is

[21:17] that whenever council people

[21:23] are using city property whether

[21:23] it's a profit or non profit and

[21:29] they have a commercial use,

[21:33] they need to pay the city up to

[21:34] 50% of all of the profit made

[21:35] off that property.

[21:38] And third, whenever there's a

[21:45] proposed capital improvement on

[21:45] city property these are all

[21:46] under Council policy existing

[21:50] council policies They have to

[21:56] submit the plans in advance and

[21:56] have them pre-approved.

[22:02] So perhaps some of these

[22:03] difficulties in see us one,

[22:07] two, three and four

[22:11] particularly four and five

[22:12] could have been involved could

[22:12] have been avoided just by

[22:17] following council policy

[22:17] Strictly it seems like there's

[22:18] a management problem at

[22:24] the city So I urge the council

[22:24] particularly this committee and

[22:29] make this committee make a

[22:30] recommendation to rules that

[22:35] there be a review of Council

[22:36] policies concerning lease and

[22:37] use by either for profit or

[22:41] nonprofit organizations of city

[22:42] owned property including

[22:48] capital improvements on those

[22:48] properties.

[22:53] The city seems to not managing

[22:54] what they need to manage and

[23:00] council staff who are not

[23:01] the city attorney are making

[23:05] legal interpretation outside

[23:06] being an attorney thank you

[23:07] very much.

[23:07] >> Thank you.

[23:12] That does conclude public

[23:13] comment on the concession

[23:14] agenda today I will refrain

[23:18] from commenting on the comments

[23:19] of the public but we will now

[23:20] recess in the closed session

[23:21] and reconvene Council today at

[23:29] Good afternoon.

[23:30] I will now reconvene the city

[23:31] council meeting of Monday,

[23:31] MARCH 9th, 2026.

[23:35] Clerk Please call the roll.

[23:36] >> Thank you.

[23:36] Council PRESIDENT Council

[23:37] Member Campbell You're Council

[23:41] member Whitburn Council Member

[23:42] Foster Council Member Von

[23:47] Wilbur Council PRESIDENT Pro

[23:48] Tem Lee Council Member Campbell

[23:53] here Council Member Moreno

[23:53] Present Council member Eli

[23:54] Rivera and Council PRESIDENT

[23:59] LaCava also attend the meeting

[24:00] Our Assistant City Attorney

[24:01] Michelle Garland Independent

[24:01] Budget Analyst Charles Mollica

[24:05] Council Affairs Advisor in

[24:06] the Mayor's office Code advisor

[24:07] and myself or City Clerk Diana

[24:07] Fuentes Thank you.

[24:10] Council PRESIDENT All right,

[24:10] Thank you.

[24:11] So the quorum is now present.

[24:12] We'll get started.

[24:13] First off, do we have any

[24:18] comments from the mayor's

[24:18] office and council members at

[24:19] the turning independent budget

[24:22] analyst the city clerk Not seen

[24:22] it.

[24:23] I'll just put out a brief

[24:28] reminder that tomorrow City

[24:28] council will have a evening

[24:29] session starting at 6 P.M. For

[24:30] the public to talk about

[24:33] the budget that will be

[24:34] the only topic for the 6 P.M.

[24:35] Session you can do to that of

[24:40] course in person or participate

[24:40] remotely.

[24:41] So with that work out my

[24:42] apologies for the late and I

[24:46] did just want to mention that

[24:47] we did place a public notice on

[24:52] our website that if anybody

[24:52] would like to submit a

[24:53] arguments in opposition it for

[24:57] any other ballot measure

[24:58] the ballot measure please be

[24:59] sure to submit them to my

[25:02] office by Wednesday, MARCH 11th

[25:03] The close of Business 5 P.M.

[25:04] Second Floor of City

[25:08] Administration Building 202c

[25:08] Street My apologies.

[25:09] You should go to the lobby and

[25:10] we will come down from

[25:14] the second floor to assist you

[25:14] .

[25:15] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[25:15] right.

[25:16] Thank you, MADAM City Clerk.

[25:16] And with that please go over

[25:19] how the public can offer their

[25:20] testimony.

[25:20] Thank you.

[25:21] I'd like to highlight the slide

[25:21] on the screen that reviews how

[25:22] the public can offer their

[25:26] public testimony during this

[25:26] afternoon's meeting.

[25:27] The order can be found on

[25:28] the agenda Summary found online

[25:28] or at the table in the back of

[25:32] the room.

[25:33] If you are in person please

[25:33] complete The speakers live

[25:34] located at the entrance of

[25:35] chambers and bring it to

[25:35] the front of the room into

[25:38] the clear box.

[25:39] Council ambassadors are

[25:39] available near the entrance and

[25:40] can assist with questions and

[25:41] speakers Lips no further in

[25:45] person Testimony will be taken

[25:45] once the council begins Virtual

[25:46] testimony Thank you Council

[25:47] PRESIDENT All right.

[25:47] Thank you.

[25:51] And with that clerk please

[25:55] introduce item 201 minute

[26:14] please.

[26:15] Just somebody with them.

[26:16] Why not Just popped up.

[26:17] Informational item item 200 is

[26:18] the 2025 that is update for

[26:18] the Climate Action

[26:19] implementation plan.

[26:24] If you'd like to submit a

[26:25] speaker's up on this item

[26:25] please be sure to submit a

[26:26] speaker to the front of

[26:27] the room with the clear boxer

[26:28] If you're participating in

[26:29] remotely please press nine or

[26:30] the raise your hand icon in

[26:30] order to speak on this item.

[26:31] Thank you.

[26:36] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[26:36] Thank you With that staff as

[26:40] you sell yourselves in

[26:41] introduce yourselves for

[26:42] the record and let us know how

[26:42] much time you need for your

[27:05] presentation.

[27:05] Thank you.

[27:06] Good afternoon.

[27:06] Council PRESIDENT Members of

[27:07] the City council.

[27:08] My name is Kelly Stock going to

[27:08] be director of the Climate

[27:11] Preservation Public Spaces

[27:12] Division in the City Planning

[27:12] Department.

[27:13] I'm joined here today by our

[27:14] Chief sustainability officer

[27:16] Andrew Martin and we will need

[27:17] about 15 minutes for our

[27:18] presentation today when you're

[27:18] ready.

[27:19] Thank you.

[27:19] All right.

[27:26] Thank you very much, Kelly.

[27:27] This status update we have for

[27:28] you today, it's part of a

[27:32] larger package of efforts We

[27:33] take your staff to provide

[27:33] regular transparent reporting

[27:34] of the city's progress towards

[27:38] its climate goals.

[27:38] Transparency and accountability

[27:39] are important parts of

[27:40] the city's climate action plan

[27:43] and the plan lays out several

[27:44] transparency and accountability

[27:44] mechanisms.

[27:45] These include annual progress

[27:46] reports which have been

[27:51] prepared by the city going back

[27:51] to 2016 emissions inventory

[27:52] updates which the city also

[27:56] prepares every year.

[27:57] We also have built in

[27:57] implementation flexibility so

[27:58] the city can adapt as real

[27:58] world conditions and

[28:03] circumstances change based on

[28:03] our evaluation and reporting.

[28:04] And then the plan also includes

[28:09] and foresees a need for an

[28:10] update to the plan after five

[28:10] years to ensure that it remains

[28:14] effective and relevant.

[28:15] The city also reports on

[28:16] climate action progress through

[28:16] our Public Facing Climate

[28:21] Action Plan Dashboard which

[28:21] includes a lot of

[28:22] the information from our annual

[28:22] reporting and our emissions

[28:23] inventories including

[28:27] performance indicators and it

[28:27] also provides department level

[28:32] updates on implementation

[28:32] status for all 190 actions

[28:38] within the Climate Action Plan

[28:38] .

[28:39] So it's in this context of

[28:39] regular transparent reporting

[28:43] staff has prepared another

[28:44] document.

[28:44] It was completed at the end of

[28:45] last year that also addresses

[28:46] progress towards Climate Action

[28:49] Plan goals.

[28:50] This document is the 2025

[28:51] status update for the Climate

[28:56] Action Implementation Plan.

[28:56] The original implementation

[29:00] plan prepared in 2023 is a tool

[29:01] to help clearly define each

[29:02] City Department's role in

[29:06] carrying out the climate action

[29:07] Plan and identify as

[29:07] responsible city departments.

[29:08] It has high level estimates of

[29:12] city implementation costs and

[29:13] also includes the council

[29:14] prioritization scores for each

[29:18] action in the plan.

[29:19] The purpose of the original

[29:19] plan or excuse me the original

[29:25] implementation plan was to help

[29:25] align the Climate Action Plan

[29:26] with the city's annual

[29:26] budgeting process and with

[29:30] departmental operations.

[29:31] Now the specific focus of this

[29:31] status update is to utilize

[29:36] the best available data We have

[29:36] to evaluate how the city is

[29:37] doing on progress towards

[29:40] the Climate Action Plans 2030

[29:41] goal and then using that

[29:41] information to make updated

[29:46] information in the original

[29:47] implementation plan.

[29:48] So when it comes to the best

[29:52] available data status update

[29:53] uses the following one We

[29:54] looked at the most recent data

[29:54] and trends on the city's annual

[29:59] emissions and how that compares

[30:00] to the 2030 goal two We look at

[30:00] different climate action

[30:04] performance indicators to help

[30:05] us understand trends in our

[30:06] emissions levels and helps give

[30:10] us a window into the real world

[30:11] Excuse me the real world

[30:11] impacts of governmental climate

[30:16] actions including those of

[30:17] the city and our local partners

[30:17] but also takes into account

[30:18] other factors too such as

[30:22] changes that result from

[30:23] federal and state government

[30:24] actions and also just from

[30:24] general socio economic

[30:28] conditions.

[30:29] And then third, we also provide

[30:29] an up to date status on each

[30:33] action in the climate action

[30:34] Plan and that's to evaluate

[30:35] the progress on how is the city

[30:35] doing on carrying out

[30:40] the actions laid out for itself

[30:41] when the plan was last updated

[30:41] in 2022.

[30:42] So the remainder of this

[30:46] presentation will review in

[30:46] brief these elements of

[30:47] the status update.

[30:48] I also want to talk about some

[30:52] challenges we've encountered

[30:53] during implementation these

[30:53] last few years and then finally

[30:58] also address how staff intends

[30:58] to use what we've learned from

[30:59] the status update and from our

[31:00] regular monitoring and

[31:04] reporting to help inform our

[31:05] ongoing implementation.

[31:06] And then also the next update

[31:10] over the Climate Action Plan.

[31:11] But first I want to give some

[31:12] additional context for

[31:15] the status update in 2020 for

[31:15] the city entered into a legal

[31:16] settlement agreement pending

[31:20] related to pending litigation

[31:21] on the 2022 Climate Action

[31:21] Plan.

[31:22] And along with those annual

[31:26] progress reports and emissions

[31:27] inventory updates we already

[31:28] prepared The settlement

[31:31] agreement also called for a

[31:32] 2025 implementation plan update

[31:32] and then have a stakeholder

[31:33] workshop and a city council

[31:38] hearing related to that update.

[31:39] We first completed the draft of

[31:43] this update in DECEMBER 2025 so

[31:43] just last year also held a

[31:49] stakeholder workshop and then

[31:49] in FEBRUARY we released a

[31:54] revised 2025 status update.

[31:55] Wanted to note too that a full

[31:56] copy of the settlement

[31:56] agreement is included as an

[32:00] attachment to the staff report

[32:00] for this item.

[32:01] So now let's review

[32:02] the findings of the updated

[32:06] implementation plan starting

[32:07] with data on how we're doing on

[32:08] progress towards the Climate

[32:11] Action Plans 2030 goal.

[32:16] So one way we measure progress

[32:16] is tracking how emissions

[32:17] change over time and then

[32:18] comparing those changes to

[32:21] climate action Plan goals which

[32:22] is what we're showing on this

[32:22] chart.

[32:23] So just to orient you to

[32:28] the chart it starts in 2019 and

[32:28] it starts there because that's

[32:29] the reference point or

[32:33] the starting point for

[32:34] measuring future change in

[32:34] emissions in the Climate Action

[32:35] Plan.

[32:35] And then the green line going

[32:40] across the top that's showing

[32:40] that if no action were taken

[32:41] emissions would actually be a

[32:45] bit higher in the future and by

[32:45] 2035.

[32:46] Now if we look down to

[32:50] the lower right those two

[32:50] circle excuse me those two

[32:54] circles are showing 2030 target

[32:55] 2035 target.

[32:55] Those are the goals of

[32:56] the Climate Action plan.

[33:01] And then that to align moving

[33:01] down into the left from

[33:05] the order circle of 2019 that's

[33:06] showing a steady annual pace of

[33:06] emissions reductions needed

[33:11] each year to meet the 2030

[33:12] target which ends up being

[33:13] about half a million metric

[33:18] tons of emissions each year.

[33:18] Just a quick note on that.

[33:19] This is a straight line

[33:22] reduction from 2019 to 2030.

[33:23] That's not something that comes

[33:24] from the Climate Action Plan.

[33:25] The Climate Action Plan doesn't

[33:28] require annual reductions in

[33:28] emissions.

[33:29] We provide this information

[33:30] purely for reference purposes

[33:34] just trying to provide some

[33:35] context for how the city's

[33:36] emissions are doing and how

[33:36] they're trending.

[33:41] And then finally in the upper

[33:42] left, if you look at those blue

[33:42] circles, those are showing

[33:43] actual emissions updates We've

[33:47] prepared each year since 2019.

[33:50] The most recent year we have is

[33:51] for 2023 and that's because

[33:52] that's the most recent year for

[33:53] which we have complete data.

[33:57] We will have updated data for

[33:58] 2024 soon and that will be

[33:59] included in our next annual

[34:03] progress report which we'll

[34:04] have released here in the next

[34:04] few months.

[34:05] So if you take away from this

[34:09] slide the first is that

[34:09] compared to 2019 emissions

[34:14] levels are down 19%.

[34:15] So we are seeing a trend in

[34:15] the right direction.

[34:19] However second, when we look at

[34:19] year over year change from 22

[34:24] to 23, we do see a slight

[34:24] uptick with emissions being

[34:25] slightly higher than they were

[34:26] the year before.

[34:29] And then third, if you take a

[34:30] look at the darker blue circle

[34:30] for 2023 and that's showing

[34:35] that emissions in 2023 were

[34:36] about 3.5% higher than what

[34:41] would be expected if we were on

[34:41] that straight line, that linear

[34:42] path straight down from 2019 to

[34:42] 2030.

[34:48] I also want to point out over

[34:49] on this slide that it's

[34:50] important to keep in mind that

[34:52] for 2023 I was the first full

[34:53] calendar year after the Climate

[34:53] Action Plan was last updated.

[34:58] So the results we're looking at

[34:58] here show pretty early stages

[35:03] of plan implementation.

[35:05] >> Also we can kind of break

[35:09] down the emissions a little bit

[35:10] further to understand why we're

[35:11] seeing those trends that we're

[35:11] seeing.

[35:15] There are a lot of different

[35:16] activities and sources that

[35:17] contribute to the city's

[35:17] emissions.

[35:18] But when we categorize them we

[35:22] can see that most emissions

[35:22] come from just a few sources.

[35:23] So first of all, more than half

[35:24] of the city's emissions come

[35:28] from driving vehicles around

[35:28] the city.

[35:29] Those people moving around

[35:30] doing their day to day errands,

[35:30] the movement of products,

[35:34] the movement of goods.

[35:35] So that's more than half.

[35:35] And then the other the other

[35:36] big category comes with how we

[35:37] use energy in our buildings and

[35:39] homes.

[35:40] And so that's an additional

[35:41] about 41% of emissions It's

[35:46] roughly split between using

[35:47] natural gas and using

[35:47] electricity.

[35:50] So if we add up to those three

[35:51] sources, that's about 96% of

[35:52] all emissions.

[35:57] Now if we take a look at some

[35:58] of the performance indicators

[35:58] that can help us understand

[36:02] some of the trends we just saw

[36:02] in the previous chart.

[36:03] So both with respect to seeing

[36:08] the downward trend from 2019 to

[36:09] 2023 and then a slight uptick

[36:13] from 22 to 23, the changes have

[36:14] to do with changes in vehicle

[36:14] use, driving patterns and

[36:19] electricity sources and also

[36:20] how energy is used at home and

[36:21] in buildings.

[36:25] So to start off we look at 23

[36:25] compared to 2019.

[36:26] We see more use of electric out

[36:26] of clean vehicles.

[36:31] We see less driving.

[36:32] We have cleaner electricity

[36:32] also more If you use more

[36:36] efficient use of natural gas

[36:37] and electricity in homes and

[36:37] buildings.

[36:41] Then if we look at 2022 for

[36:42] some of those indicators, we do

[36:42] still see trends in

[36:43] the positive direction.

[36:47] But for those shown in red we

[36:48] do see a little bit of an

[36:49] uptick in the opposite

[36:49] direction.

[36:50] So we do see a little bit more

[36:54] driving.

[36:54] Electricity remains clean.

[36:55] It remains more than half

[36:56] renewable, just a little bit

[37:00] less so than it was the prior

[37:00] year.

[37:01] And then we do see a minor

[37:06] incremental increase in gas use

[37:06] as well.

[37:07] So apart from the data, another

[37:07] way that we evaluate and

[37:12] progress towards goals is

[37:13] looking at how city departments

[37:13] are doing in carrying out

[37:14] the work of the Climate Action

[37:14] Plan.

[37:19] So overall about 3 in 4 about

[37:19] 75% of the 190 actions in

[37:23] the plan are either underway or

[37:24] already complete.

[37:25] And a quick note about the ones

[37:30] that are in progress.

[37:31] For many of those about two

[37:32] thirds of those, those are

[37:32] continuous actions.

[37:36] So that represents just kind of

[37:37] the regular everyday ongoing

[37:37] work of city departments.

[37:38] And then the remainder that's

[37:42] in progress.

[37:43] That's sort of an action with

[37:44] you start it's worked on and

[37:44] then it's complete.

[37:47] It's more of a finite action.

[37:48] So taking a look at this

[37:53] information on this slide and

[37:53] the previous ones we have seen

[37:54] some progress towards our

[37:59] climate action Plan goals.

[38:00] We have seen a lot of work

[38:01] happening the last few years at

[38:01] the city to implement

[38:02] the Climate Action Plan.

[38:05] A lot of work across city

[38:06] departments and this is

[38:06] the result of a lot of

[38:07] coordination and hard work

[38:11] across city government.

[38:12] And I think it's worth taking a

[38:12] moment to acknowledge that.

[38:17] But at the same time we want to

[38:18] be clear to meet the Climate

[38:23] Action Plans goals.

[38:24] Additional sweeping changes are

[38:28] needed and not just by the city

[38:29] .

[38:29] The scale of climate change is

[38:30] huge and so is the scale of

[38:31] changes needed to address this

[38:34] problem.

[38:35] And yes, the city needs to do

[38:36] its part and we have more work

[38:39] to do.

[38:40] But to meet our goals our part

[38:41] needs to happen in coordination

[38:45] with actions across really

[38:46] every level of government,

[38:47] across the economy, across

[38:47] society.

[38:51] If we think back to 2022 when

[38:52] the Climate Action Plan was

[38:53] last updated, we had some

[38:58] examples of this type of large

[38:58] scale action and governmental

[38:59] coordination starting to take

[38:59] place.

[39:03] For example, if we look at

[39:04] the federal level we had bills

[39:04] like the bipartisan

[39:05] Infrastructure Law Inflation

[39:09] Reduction Act We were seeing

[39:10] several billions of dollars for

[39:10] climate action.

[39:14] And that included grant funding

[39:15] for cities including ours.

[39:20] Unfortunately we're in a very

[39:21] different environment now in

[39:22] 2026 and there are very serious

[39:22] challenges to overcome to meet

[39:26] the climate Action Plan goals.

[39:27] For one, there's been a

[39:27] significant change in federal

[39:32] funding priorities.

[39:33] It's been a strong shift away

[39:34] from climate action and in many

[39:38] cases toward activities that

[39:38] make climate change worse.

[39:43] At the same time there's been a

[39:44] major rollback of the Federal

[39:45] government's legal regulatory

[39:49] support for climate action.

[39:50] We've seen the current

[39:50] administration take steps to

[39:54] end federal authority to even

[39:55] address climate emissions at

[39:55] all.

[39:56] They moved to weaken standards

[40:00] for clean cars, reduce support

[40:00] for clean energy.

[40:01] And we've had federal court

[40:02] decisions that favor natural

[40:05] gas use over efficient clean

[40:06] electric buildings.

[40:11] And then apart from what's

[40:12] happening federally, there are

[40:12] a couple other factors worth

[40:13] mentioning.

[40:17] And both have to do with

[40:18] the cost of climate action and

[40:18] who pays for it.

[40:21] For one, San Diego was already

[40:22] one of the most expensive

[40:22] cities in the country.

[40:27] That includes housing costs,

[40:27] electricity bills, other costs

[40:28] of living.

[40:32] Because many climate actions

[40:32] have potential to increase

[40:33] costs for residents, residents

[40:34] and businesses, we have

[40:37] the challenge of making

[40:37] progress towards climate goals

[40:38] without making San Diego more

[40:43] unaffordable.

[40:44] And one way to offset those

[40:45] costs and pay for climate work

[40:45] is with public investment.

[40:48] That can include a lot of

[40:49] things could be rebates for

[40:49] the higher costs of purchasing

[40:53] and using new equipment, new

[40:54] technologies that could pay for

[40:55] the new and upgraded

[40:55] infrastructure.

[40:59] We need to meet our goals.

[40:59] However, we're currently in a

[41:00] period of tight budgets of

[41:05] limited government funding so

[41:06] many programs that could pay

[41:06] for climate action.

[41:07] Right now they're underfunded,

[41:09] they're delayed.

[41:10] They're just not funded at all.

[41:11] As a result, at least for

[41:15] the time being, we must look

[41:16] for other ways to move our

[41:21] climate work forward so that we

[41:22] as staff have already doing

[41:22] that.

[41:23] And we're starting to look to

[41:26] potential alternative funding

[41:26] sources for the Climate Action

[41:27] Plan.

[41:27] And we intend to make that a

[41:28] priority of our work going

[41:31] forward.

[41:32] >> And also despite all despite

[41:33] these challenges doesn't mean

[41:33] the city isn't doing anything

[41:36] that the city does continue to

[41:37] make progress and work on

[41:38] making progress toward our

[41:42] climate Action plan.

[41:43] This is not a complete list

[41:44] here but a representative

[41:47] example of some of the good

[41:48] work that's going on right now.

[41:49] So we are providing rebates for

[41:52] low income households to

[41:53] receive efficient electric

[41:54] appliances in their homes.

[41:58] We continue to update our plans

[41:58] to allow more homes including

[41:59] affordable ones near public

[42:03] transit and improve options for

[42:04] people to walk bike road use

[42:05] transit so they can get around

[42:08] with less reliance on a

[42:09] personal car or in the process

[42:13] of some updates to city codes

[42:14] to improve energy efficiency.

[42:15] But making sure we do so in

[42:18] ways that are cost effective

[42:19] and also for the city itself

[42:20] when it comes to our buildings,

[42:24] our operations.

[42:25] >> Okay.

[42:26] I'll wrap it up in just a

[42:26] moment here.

[42:30] I also have examples of city

[42:31] using innovative financing

[42:32] tools related to managing our

[42:32] energy use in our city

[42:36] properties.

[42:36] And then on the final slide

[42:37] here as we look forward,

[42:41] the city will continue to

[42:41] implement the Climate Action

[42:42] plan.

[42:42] And as I mentioned this spring

[42:43] we'll have our next annual

[42:46] progress report released on

[42:46] the Climate Action Plan.

[42:47] In addition, with the support

[42:51] of grant funding we've received

[42:52] from the San Diego Association

[42:52] of Governments will be getting

[42:53] started on the next update of

[42:56] the climate Action Plan this

[42:57] spring.

[42:59] We anticipate completing that

[43:00] effort in 2027 which is aligned

[43:01] with the five year mark

[43:05] envisioned in the current plan

[43:05] .

[43:06] And as a final note, we're

[43:07] we're viewing this update as an

[43:10] opportunity to revisit

[43:10] the city's approach and

[43:11] the Climate Action Plan.

[43:12] In light of this progress to

[43:15] date in light of our current

[43:16] challenges and especially those

[43:20] related to cost and funding,

[43:21] this kind of strategic approach

[43:22] to the update can help the city

[43:22] continue to make progress

[43:26] during these challenging times

[43:26] we're currently in.

[43:27] And that concludes the staff

[43:27] presentation.

[43:30] Thank you.

[43:31] All right.

[43:31] Thank you very much for

[43:32] the work in the presentation.

[43:33] I'll turn it over to the office

[43:36] of the Independent journalist

[43:36] Jordan.

[43:37] Thank you, council PRESIDENT

[43:37] And good afternoon.

[43:40] My name is Gordon Moore with

[43:41] the Office of the aba.

[43:42] As you just heard staff from

[43:45] city planning as well as almost

[43:46] all other city departments have

[43:47] been making important strides

[43:50] in implementing the city's

[43:51] Climate action Plan over

[43:51] the last several years.

[43:52] As noted in the staff

[43:56] presentation, the majority of

[43:57] actions are either complete or

[43:58] underway and there have been

[44:01] notable strides taken in just

[44:02] the last couple of years such

[44:03] as improvements to the building

[44:06] code, the installation of

[44:07] publicly available ev chargers

[44:08] and various projects that

[44:11] decarbonize city facilities

[44:12] with no upfront cost.

[44:12] Additionally, staff have also

[44:17] implemented the cap dashboard

[44:17] which offers real time

[44:18] monitoring capabilities for cap

[44:19] actions and implementation

[44:22] beyond annual updates.

[44:23] The fact that these actions

[44:23] have been done in the city's

[44:33] current budget environment is a

[44:34] testament to the hard work city

[44:34] staff has undertaken to

[44:34] implement the cap this far.

[44:34] However, as noted in the last

[44:35] cap annual update emissions did

[44:37] increase in 2023 which is

[44:38] the last year for which

[44:39] the city has fully available

[44:42] information.

[44:43] Some context surrounding this

[44:44] increase should be recognized

[44:48] starting with that the most

[44:49] consequential act actions

[44:49] mentioned by staff took effect

[44:53] after 2023 and as such the city

[44:54] should see emissions decline in

[44:58] subsequent years particularly

[44:59] starting when we get annual

[44:59] updates covering 2026 and

[45:00] beyond.

[45:03] >> However, there is this gap

[45:04] between what indicators are

[45:05] reported and when we are at

[45:08] the present day and it does

[45:09] highlight an issue with

[45:09] monitoring capital limitation

[45:13] since only being able to judge

[45:13] cap effectiveness at almost two

[45:14] full years in arrears does not

[45:18] allow for timely oversight over

[45:18] the cap.

[45:19] In the next update our office

[45:23] recommends that staff work on

[45:24] shortening the reporting window

[45:24] to provide data in a more

[45:27] timely fashion or develop

[45:28] additional indicators that can

[45:29] more effectively demonstrate in

[45:30] real time whether the city's

[45:33] actions are having

[45:33] the greenhouse gas impact

[45:34] emission emission impacts that

[45:38] are desired more timely

[45:39] indicators than the ability to

[45:39] see them more quickly.

[45:42] It could also allow better

[45:43] decisions on how to prioritize

[45:44] future cap actions and further

[45:47] allow the city to see where

[45:47] emissions are coming from and

[45:48] if they are truly are

[45:52] the city's responsibility.

[45:53] For example, when looking at

[45:53] the latest update the main

[45:58] sources of increased emissions

[45:58] were less renewable energy,

[45:59] more natural gas usage and more

[45:59] driving.

[46:03] However these increased sources

[46:03] were not equal in their impact

[46:04] on emissions as increased

[46:08] emissions from electricity due

[46:09] to lower renewable content made

[46:09] up more than half of the total

[46:13] emissions increase between 2022

[46:13] and 2023.

[46:14] The amount of renewable energy

[46:18] in the electricity supply is a

[46:18] decision made by either San

[46:19] Diego Gas and Electric or

[46:22] increasingly by San Diego

[46:23] community power.

[46:24] And it's important to note that

[46:24] while the city has influence

[46:28] over the actions of cp it does

[46:28] not control as dcp.

[46:33] This is an example where even

[46:34] if the city takes all emissions

[46:34] reductions actions within its

[46:37] direct control, if dcp does not

[46:38] increase its renewable power

[46:42] base emissions could go up

[46:42] despite the city's best efforts

[46:43] to implement the cap.

[46:47] Our office therefore also

[46:47] recommends that in the next cap

[46:51] update city staff work on more

[46:52] accurately attributing which

[46:52] actions are leading to which

[46:53] emissions reductions by

[46:56] providing more context on what

[46:57] the city can and cannot control

[47:01] in the next cap Update.

[47:01] That concludes my comments.

[47:02] Thank you very much.

[47:02] All right.

[47:03] Thank you, Jordan With that

[47:06] clerk please proceed with

[47:07] public comment.

[47:07] Thank you.

[47:08] Council PRESIDENT We have no

[47:08] speakers here in council

[47:11] chambers for item 200 going to

[47:12] those participating online.

[47:16] We currently have six speakers

[47:17] in the queue.

[47:20] I've started the five minute

[47:21] timer starting with Laurie

[47:22] Saldana if you can please

[47:22] unmute After that will be

[47:25] Kathleen Lippert.

[47:25] >> Thank you.

[47:25] Good afternoon.

[47:26] My name is Laurie Saldana.

[47:30] I was coauthor of ab 32 over 20

[47:31] years ago.

[47:34] Actually it was 20 years ago

[47:34] when we created the Greenhouse

[47:35] Gas Reduction Act that led to

[47:38] this and other climate plans

[47:39] climate action plans.

[47:39] I currently serve on the board

[47:42] of a local nonprofit

[47:43] organization.

[47:44] And I just want to remind

[47:44] the Council that San Diego

[47:47] ratepayers are charged

[47:48] the highest electrical utility

[47:49] rates in the country.

[47:52] And we created over $600

[47:52] million in profits for stg, an

[47:56] investor owned utility and

[47:57] subsidiary of Sempra that also

[47:58] profits from natural gas.

[48:02] Why does this matter to our

[48:02] climate action plan?

[48:03] Because last year our

[48:07] foundation won a unanimous

[48:07] decision at the California

[48:08] Supreme Court.

[48:08] They determined the latest net

[48:12] energy metering regulations are

[48:12] unfair to ratepayers not just

[48:16] in San Diego but statewide who

[48:17] installed solar on their homes

[48:17] and businesses.

[48:18] And when I look at what you are

[48:22] proposing in this plan I see no

[48:22] reported increase in local

[48:26] electricity production via

[48:27] solar panels on city buildings

[48:27] that could offset some of

[48:32] the costs that residents pay

[48:32] multiple times in the lobby.

[48:33] They took those profits from

[48:36] ratepayers to lobby against our

[48:37] interests.

[48:37] And now we not only pay

[48:38] the highest electrical rates at

[48:41] our homes, we pay the parking

[48:42] fees and other fees to help

[48:43] the city of San Diego balance

[48:46] their budget which includes

[48:47] paying more and more for

[48:47] utility costs in the city.

[48:51] We pay retailers, grocers and

[48:51] others who increase their

[48:52] prices to pay for their

[48:56] business utility bills that are

[48:56] increasing because of unfair

[48:57] policies.

[49:00] So I'm asking you as part of

[49:01] this plan where is the increase

[49:05] in solar power on government

[49:06] city rooftops in our parks?

[49:10] You're charging more cars and

[49:11] yet you're not doing more local

[49:11] energy generation.

[49:15] Where is the goal for that?

[49:16] I read through the report I

[49:17] glanced over quickly this

[49:20] morning I see a lot of

[49:20] admirable goals but I don't see

[49:21] you actually installing solar

[49:25] panels on existing buildings

[49:25] retrofitting standing

[49:26] buildings.

[49:30] Please do that.

[49:31] Thank you for that concluding

[49:31] comment.

[49:32] Kathleen Lippert if you can

[49:32] please unmute.

[49:33] After that will be John Stump.

[49:38] >> Kathleen?

[49:38] Kathleen, I can't I mean for

[49:39] you you should have a pop up

[49:41] come up.

[49:42] >> There you go.

[49:47] The prize winning effort and

[49:47] the author.

[49:48] Good.

[49:48] Sorry.

[49:50] Could you come back to me in

[49:51] just a moment, please?

[49:52] >> I'm sorry I'm not able to

[49:57] return to the speakers if

[49:57] you're unable to speak now.

[50:00] Not with the format.

[50:01] Skip your turn.

[50:05] We cannot return anywhere.

[50:05] Okay.

[50:06] Can you hear me?

[50:07] Yes, we can hear the crowd

[50:10] noise.

[50:11] >> There is a lot of background

[50:16] noise in the lot.

[50:17] It seems to the.

[50:17] Okay.

[50:19] Can you still hear me?

[50:20] Yes.

[50:20] Please continue.

[50:24] No, Take.

[50:25] We can hear you.

[50:25] Please proceed.

[50:34] It.

[50:34] All right.

[50:35] Moving on to the next speaker,

[50:35] John Stump.

[50:38] If you can please unmute.

[50:43] >> Hi, Good afternoon.

[50:43] Climate action.

[50:44] Do we really believe that there

[50:48] is a threat and change in

[50:49] climate action?

[50:53] The report says yes.

[50:57] The presentation by staff's I b

[50:58] a and the climate staff were

[51:02] nice.

[51:03] I ask first of all that

[51:07] the climate staff stop using

[51:07] visuals which portray

[51:11] the largest creation of climate

[51:16] action co2.

[51:17] Downtown Is that where we're

[51:17] trying to influence?

[51:21] That's a that's a loser.

[51:22] We want to and we want to show

[51:25] city employees and what they're

[51:26] doing to reduce climate impacts

[51:31] and homes not the port

[51:35] The downtown commuter area.

[51:36] Now talking about city

[51:40] departments, we need

[51:45] specifically to reduce climate

[51:46] impacts at the city's airports.

[51:50] And the big item today at

[51:51] maintenance of zoological

[51:55] exhibits where the zoological

[52:04] exhibits department is probably

[52:04] the third largest producer of

[52:09] climate change impacts that in

[52:09] the city.

[52:13] The 5 million people a year who

[52:17] fly in or drive in by tourism

[52:18] is a huge impact and should be

[52:22] included.

[52:24] >> So and then finally I agree

[52:27] with MS..

[52:28] Saldana Council You're

[52:33] responsible for the fact that

[52:33] sd g and e is creating so much

[52:37] climate impacts.

[52:38] >> You've got to change that

[52:38] franchise.

[52:39] Thank you very much.

[52:39] Thank you.

[52:42] The five minute timer has

[52:42] concluded there are six

[52:43] speakers in the queue.

[52:44] No additional speakers will be

[52:45] taken live here if you can

[52:49] please on mute.

[52:54] Good afternoon PRESIDENT LaCava

[52:54] and council members.

[52:55] My name is Livia Bowden.

[52:59] I'm an attorney at Comstock

[53:00] Group and I represent Coastal

[53:00] Environmental Rights Foundation

[53:03] or serve one of the litigants

[53:04] involved in the cap lawsuit and

[53:04] settlement.

[53:05] First I'd like to echo

[53:08] the eib's comments regarding

[53:09] transparency and granularity in

[53:09] future reports.

[53:13] It's disheartening to see

[53:14] the city failing to take this

[53:14] as an opportunity to candidly

[53:17] discuss the status of its

[53:18] climate actions and challenges.

[53:19] The trajectory to 2030 goal is

[53:23] steep but the 2035 goal is even

[53:24] more ambitious and is only nine

[53:24] years away.

[53:28] The fact that the 2025 annual

[53:28] report came out late last year

[53:33] and only included 2023 data is

[53:33] also disappointing.

[53:37] It doesn't meet the letter or

[53:38] spirit of the settlement

[53:38] agreement.

[53:39] And I would argue there's more

[53:42] recent available emissions data

[53:43] especially since the county

[53:44] released its 2025 report in

[53:47] JULY and included 2024 data.

[53:48] By conveying that the vast

[53:52] majority of strategies are in

[53:52] progress, the city fails to

[53:53] detail exactly what that means

[53:56] in terms of realistically

[53:57] achieving its goals.

[53:57] For example achieving de carve

[54:01] of existing buildings and

[54:02] mobility goals by 2030 seems

[54:02] virtually impossible at this

[54:03] point.

[54:07] The reliance on the cap is not

[54:08] that is not likely to be

[54:08] achieved.

[54:11] To push through sequel projects

[54:11] means the city misses out on

[54:12] project level greenhouse gas

[54:13] mitigation measures and

[54:16] approves projects and plans

[54:16] like the community plan updates

[54:20] without including additional

[54:21] greenhouse gas reduction

[54:21] measures.

[54:22] Failing to acknowledge our

[54:26] shortcomings will be mean will

[54:26] be that much farther behind

[54:27] when we attempt to correct

[54:28] course and the Trump

[54:31] administration wasn't in office

[54:31] in 2023 or 2024.

[54:32] We cannot just blame

[54:36] the federal government.

[54:36] I urge the city to be more

[54:37] transparent about what's been

[54:38] accomplished to use all

[54:41] available greenhouse gas

[54:41] emissions data and to stick to

[54:42] the settlement agreement

[54:42] deadlines.

[54:46] Thank you.

[54:47] Next is Blair Beekman.

[54:55] If you can please unmute.

[54:56] >> Thank you.

[54:56] Beekman Thanks a lot for this

[54:57] item.

[55:00] It's important.

[55:01] Laurie Sodano has offered some

[55:04] really nice words this

[55:05] afternoon and this morning you

[55:09] had a very nice not a nice but

[55:10] you had a relevant closed

[55:14] session item on what's going on

[55:15] at the airport issues right

[55:15] now.

[55:19] Is that not sea level rise

[55:20] issues taking place?

[55:24] Laurie Saldanha very nicely

[55:24] talked about.

[55:25] We need to refer to the San

[55:25] Francisco Bay area and how

[55:28] they're working on their

[55:29] serious issues.

[55:34] I see in this report not a lot

[55:35] of mention of sea level rise

[55:37] things sea level rise things

[55:38] And I'm wondering what part

[55:42] does that place in these

[55:43] climate issues and our coastal

[55:46] concerns that I think there's a

[55:47] there's a very strong hefty

[55:48] group of people who have a

[55:52] certain way to view coastal

[55:52] planning and construction and

[55:56] you know, maintenance that it's

[55:57] not fully jiving with city

[55:58] government at this time.

[56:02] I hope you guys can learn to

[56:02] get together And I think we

[56:06] have to really honestly, truly

[56:06] acknowledge there are sea level

[56:07] rise issues to be concerned

[56:11] about.

[56:12] It's then how to proceed with

[56:13] that concept and how to provide

[56:17] maintenance and fixes And

[56:18] that's the question That should

[56:22] be the argument and not a sea

[56:22] level rise.

[56:23] I think there's been so many

[56:24] glaciers that have been melting

[56:27] all around the world It's it

[56:28] seems undeniable to not say

[56:31] there's sea level rise

[56:31] concerns.

[56:32] It's what to do out of that

[56:36] process working together out of

[56:37] that process.

[56:38] Good luck how we do that.

[56:41] Lori Saldana again, she offered

[56:42] very interesting comments about

[56:42] the Midway Housing Project area

[56:46] that has sea level rise

[56:47] concerns about it and you're

[56:51] not at all talking about that

[56:51] your future, your current court

[56:55] things are about subject matter

[56:56] that MAY pertain to sea level

[56:57] rise that you please talk about

[56:57] those If your time has

[57:00] concluded.

[57:01] Next is 8700 and then Jay

[57:04] Powell and then 749 is our last

[57:05] speaker.

[57:13] It 700 please unmute star six.

[57:18] >> Thank you so much Joyce that

[57:18] 53.

[57:22] First of all Lori Saldana,

[57:23] thank you for all your work

[57:24] especially for your work on

[57:27] this item.

[57:27] Okay.

[57:28] Climate Action plan.

[57:32] I'm not too up on all of this

[57:33] but I'm going to jump in from

[57:37] the staff report.

[57:37] Thank you.

[57:38] Thank you.

[57:41] While important find funding

[57:42] foundational actions have been

[57:45] completed refer to strategies

[57:46] 123.

[57:47] Thank you and significant work

[57:50] continues.

[57:51] Sweeping changes not just by

[57:55] the city but at all levels of

[57:56] government and throughout

[58:01] the economy and society.

[58:02] To me that word society is

[58:05] important are still needed to

[58:06] meet the ambitious goals of

[58:09] the Climate Action Plan Now

[58:10] this is for me the key word

[58:15] here is society.

[58:16] Here are eight I thought

[58:20] systemic economic and

[58:24] psychological barriers.

[58:25] Here's my white elephant in

[58:25] the room.

[58:29] Is this an evolutionary change

[58:34] fueled by human society?

[58:34] This is very important.

[58:39] I'm appreciating everybody who

[58:40] is so intensely passionate

[58:44] about this and really knows

[58:44] what's happening on it.

[58:45] Just keep at it.

[58:49] We don't know where we're

[58:50] headed on the big picture.

[58:50] You know, practically

[58:54] the universe.

[58:55] But we have to keep trying.

[58:55] So thank you.

[58:56] This is tough work.

[58:59] Thank you to plenty of others

[58:59] involved.

[59:00] Thank you for listening.

[59:04] We are doing our best Love to

[59:04] all.

[59:05] Thank you.

[59:07] 7499 if you can please unmute

[59:12] and then Powell.

[59:16] >> Bob Kozinski here We need to

[59:17] be careful about the visibility

[59:21] that we give to the so called

[59:21] climate change issues.

[59:22] It's important to remember that

[59:27] all of our youth and all of

[59:27] the new age models are watching

[59:31] and learning from everything we

[59:32] say or write about nearly

[59:36] everything.

[59:37] The ongoing panic that we

[59:41] continually exhibit about

[59:41] climate change will soon be

[59:45] training our ai models and our

[59:46] youth that the human race needs

[59:46] to be exterminated.

[59:50] Please think about

[59:51] the consequences of your

[59:51] ongoing panic.

[59:55] Thank you.

[59:56] >> And our final speaker is Jay

[59:56] Powell.

[59:59] If you can please unmute.

[1:00:04] Good afternoon.

[1:00:05] Jay Powell Normal Heights,

[1:00:09] California and I want to just

[1:00:10] add my appreciation to

[1:00:15] the presentation, the idea and

[1:00:15] comments.

[1:00:20] Laura Saldana and also note

[1:00:20] that one of the comments

[1:00:21] regarding San Diego community

[1:00:25] power the city doesn't control

[1:00:25] it but has a powerful

[1:00:29] representative there and that

[1:00:30] can do a lot more in terms of

[1:00:34] creating local renewable power.

[1:00:35] Community based microgrids is

[1:00:39] one of the things that we can

[1:00:39] put on city buildings, city

[1:00:43] facilities and city leases such

[1:00:44] as the zoo.

[1:00:44] So I would encourage that.

[1:00:49] And my other question is was

[1:00:50] this issue or a report rather

[1:00:54] reviewed by the Climate

[1:00:54] Advisory Board and

[1:00:55] the Resiliency Advisory boards

[1:00:58] And did they submit any

[1:00:59] particular recommendations?

[1:01:03] I think that's important to

[1:01:03] take into account.

[1:01:04] Thank you very much.

[1:01:08] Thank you.

[1:01:09] >> That does conclude

[1:01:09] the public comment on this

[1:01:10] item.

[1:01:10] We did receive one comment in

[1:01:13] favor via our e comment form

[1:01:14] which has been distributed to

[1:01:14] the Council.

[1:01:15] Thank you.

[1:01:15] Council PRESIDENT.

[1:01:16] All right.

[1:01:18] Thank you, City Clerk We'll

[1:01:19] turn it over to the council

[1:01:19] members.

[1:01:22] This is an information item.

[1:01:23] No motion is required and we'll

[1:01:24] start with the chair of

[1:01:28] the Environment Committee,

[1:01:28] council member Ella Rivera.

[1:01:29] All right.

[1:01:29] Thank you.

[1:01:29] Council PRESIDENT.

[1:01:32] I thank you for

[1:01:32] the presentation here And

[1:01:33] the briefing ahead of time is

[1:01:36] these reports are super

[1:01:37] important because they help

[1:01:38] give us a clear picture of

[1:01:41] progress and where we have work

[1:01:41] to do.

[1:01:42] I appreciate your joining your

[1:01:45] work in pointing out how much

[1:01:46] effort it takes to do what has

[1:01:47] been done given the context of

[1:01:50] that work has been done in It

[1:01:51] also is really helpful to see

[1:01:55] the breakdown of where

[1:01:56] emissions are coming from.

[1:01:56] As has been the case,

[1:02:00] transportation continues to be

[1:02:00] the largest source followed by

[1:02:01] natural gas use in buildings

[1:02:05] and electricity and this just

[1:02:05] reinforces how important it is

[1:02:06] that our climate work is

[1:02:07] connected to how we're planning

[1:02:10] housing, mobility and energy

[1:02:10] across the city.

[1:02:14] A couple of questions.

[1:02:15] One, the report highlights

[1:02:15] actions related to reducing

[1:02:19] natural gas use in buildings

[1:02:20] and electrifying city

[1:02:20] facilities.

[1:02:24] Can you talk to us about what

[1:02:24] barriers financial, regulatory,

[1:02:25] technical or otherwise we're

[1:02:28] encountering in scaling our

[1:02:29] building electrification

[1:02:33] citywide?

[1:02:34] >> Sure.

[1:02:39] Happy to do that.

[1:02:40] Just to be clear, I'll speak to

[1:02:40] citywide community wide facing

[1:02:43] actions Is that what you're

[1:02:44] asking about as opposed to like

[1:02:44] city operations?

[1:02:48] Well, both.

[1:02:48] Okay.

[1:02:48] Yeah.

[1:02:52] Okay.

[1:02:52] From the perspective of

[1:02:53] community wide and citywide

[1:02:57] efforts in the Climate Action

[1:03:01] Plan itself, it envisioned to

[1:03:02] move towards all electric

[1:03:03] buildings making code apps in

[1:03:03] that direct code updates in

[1:03:06] that direction shortly

[1:03:07] following the Climate Action

[1:03:11] Plan update.

[1:03:11] There were court rulings

[1:03:16] involving the it's known as

[1:03:17] the Berkeley case involving

[1:03:18] efforts in the city of Berkeley

[1:03:21] to make similar efforts there.

[1:03:22] And I guess to make a long

[1:03:23] story short that that has

[1:03:27] really, really complicated

[1:03:27] local effort, local efforts to

[1:03:31] move towards all electric

[1:03:32] buildings And the city has

[1:03:35] tried to pivot its approach

[1:03:36] since that time.

[1:03:36] So that's been a big that's

[1:03:40] been a big roadblock not just

[1:03:41] in San Diego but in other

[1:03:41] places and trying to move

[1:03:42] towards all electric new

[1:03:45] construction.

[1:03:46] And then I would say and we

[1:03:47] tried to speak to this a little

[1:03:50] bit in the presentation and but

[1:03:51] when it comes to existing

[1:03:55] buildings, we're we have we did

[1:03:59] include we have included in

[1:03:59] some ongoing code updates, some

[1:04:00] items related to improving

[1:04:04] energy efficiency of existing

[1:04:05] buildings there.

[1:04:05] We're trying to be really

[1:04:09] focused and sensitive to

[1:04:09] the cost, especially

[1:04:10] the upfront costs that come

[1:04:14] along with using new energy

[1:04:15] efficient and renewable

[1:04:16] technologies much of the time.

[1:04:19] And so and that that's where

[1:04:20] our thoughts about really

[1:04:20] looking at ways to seek

[1:04:24] alternative sources of funding

[1:04:25] and really making sure that as

[1:04:25] we move in that direction we do

[1:04:29] so in a way that is really is

[1:04:34] not exacerbating cost of living

[1:04:34] and other concerns for our

[1:04:35] communities.

[1:04:35] And then as far as city

[1:04:39] facilities I know we have

[1:04:40] Heather with the Department of

[1:04:40] General Services on the line

[1:04:41] who can speak more to some of

[1:04:44] the strategies that we've

[1:04:45] implemented for the city

[1:04:45] operations and buildings things

[1:04:48] really I think more than

[1:04:49] strategies deployed I think

[1:04:53] barriers to deploying those

[1:04:53] strategies would be helpful.

[1:04:54] Yeah.

[1:04:58] i can add on a little bit that

[1:04:59] I mean there is a couple of

[1:04:59] barriers.

[1:04:59] It doesn't mean it's

[1:05:00] impossible, it just means that

[1:05:02] there's some additional

[1:05:03] challenges.

[1:05:03] The number one challenge being

[1:05:07] related to cost efficiency and

[1:05:07] financial feasibility.

[1:05:12] So while we do have the ability

[1:05:12] to seek some funding and

[1:05:13] the city has made some good

[1:05:16] progress with respect to its

[1:05:17] existing city buildings, we are

[1:05:21] constrained by court cases as

[1:05:22] well as new bills that have

[1:05:22] come down from the state of

[1:05:26] California limiting our ability

[1:05:27] to address building codes.

[1:05:28] But we also do want to be

[1:05:31] sensitive as Andrew said in his

[1:05:32] presentation to the cost of

[1:05:33] living in San Diego as well.

[1:05:36] But I would say the biggest

[1:05:37] challenge overall is the lack

[1:05:37] of funding that's available at

[1:05:40] the Federal level to implement

[1:05:41] some of the bigger ticket items

[1:05:42] that we have in our Climate

[1:05:45] Action Plan.

[1:05:46] So that is what we do want to

[1:05:49] and plan to focus on more

[1:05:50] significantly this year is

[1:05:50] identifying alternative funding

[1:05:54] strategies.

[1:05:55] Thank you.

[1:05:55] Appreciate that.

[1:05:58] Included in those are

[1:06:03] alternative funding strategies

[1:06:04] .

[1:06:04] You know we have some models

[1:06:08] within the city already power

[1:06:08] purchase agreements that help

[1:06:13] offset or eliminate cost for

[1:06:13] the city.

[1:06:14] So is there a thought to pivot

[1:06:17] toward revenue generating

[1:06:22] revenue neutral investments?

[1:06:27] Um, while we kind of wait for a

[1:06:32] federal environment that's more

[1:06:33] helpful on that front?

[1:06:33] Yes, absolutely Councilmember.

[1:06:37] So we have pivoted to some of

[1:06:41] those cost neutral and in some

[1:06:42] cases even some some upside

[1:06:43] with the energy savings

[1:06:47] performance contract that

[1:06:47] the council saw recently.

[1:06:48] That was the first portfolio in

[1:06:51] a much broader strategy that

[1:06:52] has been years in the making.

[1:06:53] We had to make some adjustments

[1:06:56] to our code, hire some experts

[1:06:57] to help us move through this

[1:06:57] process because it is a model

[1:06:58] that is new to the city.

[1:07:01] But now we have the first one

[1:07:02] inked and underway who are very

[1:07:05] excited to see that hopefully

[1:07:06] be successful and a model that

[1:07:07] we can continue to expand upon.

[1:07:11] We did something sort of

[1:07:11] similar in terms of a public

[1:07:15] private partnership with a

[1:07:15] concessions agreement to

[1:07:16] basically make use of our city

[1:07:19] facilities for that ev Charging

[1:07:20] for for the public to utilize.

[1:07:21] So definitely see us doubling

[1:07:24] down more and more on those

[1:07:25] types of models where we can

[1:07:29] bring in private financing or

[1:07:30] innovative funding models that

[1:07:30] don't require a big capital

[1:07:34] outlay from the city upfront.

[1:07:34] Thank you.

[1:07:39] So as we're beginning to

[1:07:40] prepare for the next cap

[1:07:44] update, what are some key

[1:07:44] lessons from this

[1:07:45] implementation period that

[1:07:48] we're already thinking Will

[1:07:49] inform that update especially

[1:07:54] those that will have

[1:07:54] the biggest impacts on emission

[1:07:58] reductions?

[1:07:58] >> I think one example was

[1:08:03] something that was mentioned by

[1:08:03] the aba earlier.

[1:08:04] Something we're also looking at

[1:08:08] too is we do have a lot of

[1:08:08] actions in the plan Right now

[1:08:09] we do have 190 and really

[1:08:12] focusing in more on and

[1:08:13] prioritizing those that are

[1:08:17] within more strongly within

[1:08:17] the city's jurisdiction, within

[1:08:18] its legal authority, within its

[1:08:22] influence area.

[1:08:23] And then I think also

[1:08:23] overlapping that with what our

[1:08:27] largest emission sources And

[1:08:27] then another element of that

[1:08:28] that we do and I think we do a

[1:08:29] pretty good job of in

[1:08:31] the current plan and perhaps we

[1:08:32] can always do better But then

[1:08:33] also overlaying that with what

[1:08:36] are the other co-benefits as we

[1:08:37] get this maybe to the city, to

[1:08:41] communities, to communities of

[1:08:42] concern etc. That come from

[1:08:42] these climate actions and

[1:08:45] really having that information

[1:08:46] front and center to help inform

[1:08:47] good decision making going

[1:08:50] forward.

[1:08:51] >> Thanks.

[1:08:51] Just two more questions.

[1:08:55] I think that that very lengthy

[1:08:56] list of actions.

[1:09:01] Um some of the actions that

[1:09:02] haven't started or are in

[1:09:05] the planning stage.

[1:09:06] Can you give us some examples

[1:09:10] of actions that are kind of

[1:09:11] within the city's direct

[1:09:15] control and not dependent on

[1:09:15] federal or state funding but

[1:09:19] then can help us understand

[1:09:20] what's blocking those actions

[1:09:24] from moving forward?

[1:09:25] >> I'd be happy to do that.

[1:09:28] I think one one really good

[1:09:29] example of that is what's

[1:09:29] referred to in the existing

[1:09:33] Climate Action Plan as an

[1:09:33] existing building

[1:09:34] decarbonization roadmap which

[1:09:38] is another way of saying it's a

[1:09:38] plan for how can we reduce

[1:09:39] emissions from our existing

[1:09:42] buildings, save energy in our

[1:09:43] existing buildings.

[1:09:47] That effort has not really

[1:09:48] moved forward in full since

[1:09:49] the Climate Action Plan was

[1:09:49] updated.

[1:09:52] However, we have been able to

[1:09:53] the funding source I mentioned

[1:09:54] for the Climate Action Plan

[1:09:57] update from sandag we are able

[1:09:57] to utilize that to move that

[1:10:01] roadmap forward and we're

[1:10:02] really excited about that.

[1:10:02] We think that's really

[1:10:06] important because there we can

[1:10:07] really as we I think it was

[1:10:11] part of your question existing

[1:10:11] buildings and energy use there

[1:10:12] that's one of the biggest

[1:10:13] sources in the city If we fast

[1:10:16] forward to the future.

[1:10:16] Most of the buildings that

[1:10:17] we'll have in the future are

[1:10:18] already here now.

[1:10:20] So that's that's a big part.

[1:10:21] So being able to move that

[1:10:25] effort forward to identify what

[1:10:25] are the policy strategies

[1:10:29] within the city's control what

[1:10:30] how do they break down across

[1:10:31] different kinds of buildings,

[1:10:35] different age of buildings?

[1:10:36] What are the cost implications

[1:10:36] of that?

[1:10:37] We have a cost effectiveness

[1:10:40] study along with that.

[1:10:41] So sorry to interrupt.

[1:10:41] No problem.

[1:10:45] Um I understand like that's an

[1:10:46] important one That's not move

[1:10:46] moving What I'm trying to get

[1:10:49] at have some help with us

[1:10:50] understanding why is it staff

[1:10:55] capacity was was it an internal

[1:10:56] if I can answer your question

[1:10:59] it's staff capacity and

[1:10:59] internal funding.

[1:11:00] So how much more staff would be

[1:11:04] needed to make the progress we

[1:11:05] want to make on that?

[1:11:06] The progress that was called

[1:11:09] for in the plan.

[1:11:09] Right.

[1:11:13] So um, you know I come before

[1:11:14] this council a lot and I tell

[1:11:15] you that we'll do the best that

[1:11:16] we can with the resources that

[1:11:19] are available which is what

[1:11:20] I'll tell you now you know,

[1:11:20] ideal worlds Would we have

[1:11:23] unlimited staffing resources?

[1:11:24] Yes, we would.

[1:11:24] But given given the budgetary

[1:11:29] constraints I don't have an

[1:11:29] answer for you today on your

[1:11:30] particular question.

[1:11:33] But what I will say is that

[1:11:33] when we are able to at least

[1:11:34] have the capacity to strategize

[1:11:37] on how to go get the funding,

[1:11:38] that's very helpful.

[1:11:39] So in the example that Andrew

[1:11:42] gave we were able to repurpose

[1:11:43] money that we have to achieve

[1:11:43] two outcomes.

[1:11:47] >> Got it.

[1:11:48] Again in terms of like lessons

[1:11:48] learned I think making sure

[1:11:51] that what we have is a plan

[1:11:52] moving forward is a plan that

[1:11:53] we either can implement or at

[1:11:57] least have a clear

[1:11:57] understanding of what is needed

[1:11:58] in order to implement is going

[1:12:02] to be super, super important.

[1:12:02] And the last thing kind of

[1:12:06] somewhat along those lines as

[1:12:07] we as was mentioned

[1:12:11] affordability is incredibly

[1:12:12] important.

[1:12:13] We want to be very mindful of

[1:12:13] anything that increases cost

[1:12:15] but there are undoubtedly

[1:12:16] actions that would meaningfully

[1:12:21] reduce emissions and could

[1:12:21] reduce cost of living

[1:12:22] especially when as relates to

[1:12:25] transportation the less

[1:12:30] dependent people are on on gas

[1:12:31] powered vehicles to get to and

[1:12:32] from where they need to go.

[1:12:35] The less they are subject to

[1:12:36] the whims of an insane

[1:12:36] PRESIDENT Who just spiked

[1:12:44] everyone's gas prices the less

[1:12:45] and the more that they can they

[1:12:46] can save.

[1:12:49] And so we've done a lot in that

[1:12:50] vein in terms of making

[1:12:54] mobility options more

[1:12:54] accessible.

[1:12:55] We've done a lot to increase

[1:12:56] housing density near those

[1:12:59] mobility options And I think we

[1:13:00] can lean more into like

[1:13:04] literally putting people into

[1:13:05] those modes of transportation

[1:13:09] and mobility And so that's

[1:13:10] something that I'm going to be

[1:13:10] looking for in the next in

[1:13:14] the next cat because again it's

[1:13:15] a way of directly reducing

[1:13:18] people's cost of living and

[1:13:19] meaningfully moving the needle

[1:13:20] in terms of emissions

[1:13:20] reductions And I don't think it

[1:13:24] needs to be done necessarily at

[1:13:25] a huge cost to city or even any

[1:13:26] cost the city if we're being

[1:13:26] creative about opening up

[1:13:29] opportunities and looking for

[1:13:29] partnerships.

[1:13:30] So thank you again for

[1:13:30] the update.

[1:13:34] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[1:13:35] >> Appreciate all the time.

[1:13:35] All right.

[1:13:36] Thank you.

[1:13:37] Council Yellow Rivera I will go

[1:13:39] next to Council member Whitburn

[1:13:39] Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[1:13:40] Thank you very much for

[1:13:41] the presentation on this

[1:13:41] update.

[1:13:44] I will sort of pick off pick up

[1:13:45] exactly where Councilmember

[1:13:48] Elio Rivera left off which is

[1:13:49] elaborating a little bit on

[1:13:49] the third strategy of

[1:13:53] the climate action into

[1:13:53] the implementation plan which

[1:13:57] is mobility and land use.

[1:13:58] There are a number of

[1:13:59] references in the status update

[1:14:03] related to the importance of

[1:14:03] pairing housing with access to

[1:14:07] transit as a means of reducing

[1:14:08] emissions from vehicular travel

[1:14:12] and reducing cost of living.

[1:14:13] So in addition to what has been

[1:14:13] already discussed this

[1:14:14] afternoon I want to call

[1:14:17] attention to the city's support

[1:14:18] for transit oriented housing

[1:14:22] development councilmembers

[1:14:22] Moreno and Isla Rivera and

[1:14:26] Foster and I serve on the mta

[1:14:27] board of directors and just

[1:14:27] last week we celebrated

[1:14:31] the grand opening of an

[1:14:32] affordable housing project on

[1:14:36] its property in Councilmember

[1:14:36] Van Gilbert's district up in

[1:14:37] Rancho Bernardo.

[1:14:37] It's a development called

[1:14:40] Skyline.

[1:14:41] It's providing 99 units of

[1:14:41] affordable housing to

[1:14:45] individuals and families

[1:14:46] earning between 30% and 50% of

[1:14:46] the area.

[1:14:51] Median income And it is located

[1:14:51] right next to the Rancho

[1:14:55] Bernardo Transit Station which

[1:14:56] makes it easy for residents to

[1:14:57] use transit to get to work or

[1:15:00] to school Medical appointments

[1:15:01] to commercial centers.

[1:15:02] And the city of San Diego has

[1:15:05] supported this project rather

[1:15:05] significantly.

[1:15:06] It has supported the project

[1:15:09] through a $5 million loan

[1:15:10] through the Bridge to Home

[1:15:10] program.

[1:15:11] The San Diego Housing

[1:15:14] Commission awarded tax exempt

[1:15:15] bond revenue to the project as

[1:15:15] well as housing vouchers.

[1:15:19] So this is just the latest in a

[1:15:19] series of transit oriented

[1:15:24] development projects that are

[1:15:24] not only climate friendly but

[1:15:25] they are providing truly

[1:15:29] affordable housing that our

[1:15:29] region needs.

[1:15:30] So I want to thank everybody at

[1:15:34] the city and the Housing

[1:15:35] Commission and mts who made

[1:15:36] those projects possible because

[1:15:39] those are exactly the types of

[1:15:40] projects that we should be

[1:15:40] pursuing that help in so many

[1:15:44] different ways from reducing

[1:15:44] emissions to reducing the cost

[1:15:45] of living.

[1:15:45] Thank you.

[1:15:46] Council PRESIDENT Thank you,

[1:15:49] Councilmember Whitburn We'll go

[1:15:49] next to Council member Von

[1:15:50] Wolpert.

[1:15:53] >> I'm thank you very much for

[1:15:54] the work on this and

[1:15:57] the presentation I have quite a

[1:15:58] few questions because I feel

[1:16:02] that the presentation didn't do

[1:16:03] justice to all the work

[1:16:04] the city has been doing to

[1:16:08] actually meet our climate

[1:16:08] action goals.

[1:16:09] I mean if you read the report

[1:16:09] there's a lot more actions

[1:16:11] we've done than we saw in

[1:16:12] the presentation And you know

[1:16:13] we just voted a week and a half

[1:16:16] ago two weeks ago to spend

[1:16:20] the most money we've ever spent

[1:16:20] $125 million to retrofit our

[1:16:21] buildings, to have solar on top

[1:16:24] of them And that wasn't even

[1:16:24] mentioned today.

[1:16:25] And so I'm just a little

[1:16:30] confused about why we're not

[1:16:30] highlighting some of this.

[1:16:33] And so my first question is you

[1:16:37] know, it's MARCH of 2026 and so

[1:16:41] why couldn't we have the 2024

[1:16:41] data done and ready to present

[1:16:42] by now, especially since

[1:16:43] the counties already had theirs

[1:16:50] done so primary reasons have to

[1:16:51] do with some of the inputs we

[1:16:52] get from other agencies and

[1:16:55] other places to prepare a

[1:16:55] complete emissions inventory.

[1:16:56] It's not that we don't have all

[1:16:57] the data or parts of

[1:16:59] the information we do have a

[1:17:00] lot of it and we will we are on

[1:17:01] track to have it published this

[1:17:04] spring but there are some

[1:17:05] inputs from places like

[1:17:06] the Energy Commission and

[1:17:06] the State Energy Commission

[1:17:10] from Caltrans with at least

[1:17:10] with the way the city does our

[1:17:14] inventory that we simply don't

[1:17:15] have that data in a timely

[1:17:16] manner And we do need some time

[1:17:16] from receipt of the information

[1:17:19] to process it and organize it

[1:17:20] and review it and prepare, you

[1:17:21] know, an inventory update that

[1:17:24] we feel good about.

[1:17:25] >> So that's that's the case

[1:17:29] for our situation.

[1:17:29] Okay.

[1:17:33] I guess I just have I'm

[1:17:34] confused about how the county

[1:17:35] would be able to do it but we

[1:17:39] wouldn't like we'd be happy to

[1:17:39] take a look at the specific

[1:17:43] methodologies and data sources

[1:17:43] the county is using in their

[1:17:44] inventory and do a comparison

[1:17:45] and see if there's something

[1:17:47] we're missing that we could be

[1:17:48] doing better and doing faster.

[1:17:52] >> Okay that would be great

[1:17:52] because I feel that we're

[1:17:53] really missing the ability to

[1:17:57] show the public what we're

[1:17:58] doing to try and meet our

[1:17:58] climate action goals And we're

[1:17:59] missing the ability for

[1:18:00] the council to see where we are

[1:18:05] on each goal.

[1:18:05] One question I have is how is

[1:18:06] it that emissions from

[1:18:10] electricity use rose in 2022

[1:18:14] which was four years ago When

[1:18:15] we're expanding our community,

[1:18:19] aggregate our community energy

[1:18:19] aggregate choice providers

[1:18:20] through North County through

[1:18:24] each county.

[1:18:24] So the more and more customers

[1:18:26] community power gets to go to

[1:18:27] power 100 how is it that we're

[1:18:28] not able to reduce the amount

[1:18:29] of emissions from our

[1:18:34] electricity use?

[1:18:39] >> The what I can't say with

[1:18:39] the data that we use in our

[1:18:44] latest emissions inventory is a

[1:18:45] blend of emissions sources.

[1:18:46] So for electricity the city

[1:18:49] serve primarily by senior

[1:18:49] community power but not

[1:18:50] exclusively.

[1:18:50] There's also electricity from

[1:18:53] sending gas and electric There

[1:18:54] also is from what are called

[1:18:58] direct access providers.

[1:18:58] We essentially prepare a blend

[1:19:02] of emissions from those sources

[1:19:03] to calculate the emissions

[1:19:03] serving the entire city as a

[1:19:08] whole and I guess what I would

[1:19:09] say is it's still very profile

[1:19:12] is still very clean overall.

[1:19:13] It's still a lot cleaner than

[1:19:13] it was when the plan was last

[1:19:14] updated or at least from

[1:19:17] the starting point of the plan

[1:19:17] in 2019.

[1:19:21] But the amount of renewables

[1:19:22] the around of clean energy and

[1:19:23] the mix according to those data

[1:19:25] it was a little bit less

[1:19:26] renewable in 23 than it was in

[1:19:30] 2022.

[1:19:31] Okay.

[1:19:32] I guess we would just have to

[1:19:39] go and ask the other entity why

[1:19:39] I would need to I don't have

[1:19:40] that information for you but

[1:19:41] we'd be happy to get that.

[1:19:43] Okay.

[1:19:44] >> Can you bring up slide

[1:20:20] number eight please

[1:20:21] ?

[1:20:26] I'm sorry that's on the go.

[1:20:26] >> It's the one with the giant

[1:20:30] that won this one.

[1:20:31] >> I thought it would be much

[1:20:35] more helpful for for me on

[1:20:36] the council.

[1:20:36] I think for the public to have

[1:20:40] a much more detailed

[1:20:41] explanation of what the 78% of

[1:20:41] actions are either in progress

[1:20:45] or complete and 66% are

[1:20:46] continuous.

[1:20:50] I mean for example we approved

[1:20:51] a $60 million contract to make

[1:20:54] sure we're installing electric

[1:20:55] vehicle chargers in our public

[1:20:55] facilities.

[1:20:59] How many have been rolled out

[1:21:00] and what are we waiting on?

[1:21:00] Where are we on this metric I'd

[1:21:05] like to be able to monitor that

[1:21:05] .

[1:21:06] That's money that we spend on

[1:21:06] taxpayer funding and we should

[1:21:07] be able to see where we are on

[1:21:10] this.

[1:21:11] I read it in the report.

[1:21:11] It just says in progress or

[1:21:12] completed in progress it'll be

[1:21:14] much more helpful to see a data

[1:21:14] set that shows us where we are.

[1:21:15] Do we know how many have been

[1:21:16] installed and how many are left

[1:21:21] to be installed for

[1:21:22] the reporting on ev charging

[1:21:26] installations I can hand it

[1:21:27] over to Heather Werner and

[1:21:28] the Department of General

[1:21:31] Services team online.

[1:21:32] I will just note I think there

[1:21:32] is a lot more detailed

[1:21:33] information on the climate

[1:21:35] dashboard than what is

[1:21:36] presented and just kind of

[1:21:40] the single status in terms of

[1:21:41] the status of each action.

[1:21:41] There's more indicators and

[1:21:42] more detail on the dashboard

[1:21:46] but as far as the ev charging,

[1:21:46] let the Department of General

[1:21:49] Services chime Minister online

[1:21:50] .

[1:21:50] I'm here.

[1:21:50] Thanks Randy.

[1:21:51] Hi Councilmember Thank you for

[1:21:52] your question.

[1:21:52] So we are doing those

[1:21:55] installations in bulk.

[1:21:55] We have 53 live reports.

[1:21:59] There are about 50 sites which

[1:21:59] equal about 300 ports both a

[1:22:03] mix of level two and dc fast

[1:22:04] charging I'm sorry 600 ports.

[1:22:08] There's about 300 of each at 45

[1:22:08] sites.

[1:22:09] Most of those all of those have

[1:22:12] been submitted and are in

[1:22:13] process with dsd and all of

[1:22:14] them are also in process with

[1:22:16] sd Jenny Certain sites will be

[1:22:17] able to be installed probably

[1:22:18] in the summer and fall because

[1:22:18] they don't require utility

[1:22:22] upgrades and additional power.

[1:22:23] Others will take longer as

[1:22:26] Jenny goes through the process

[1:22:27] of working with us to get more

[1:22:28] power to those sites for those

[1:22:32] installations.

[1:22:32] I would also remind you that

[1:22:33] yes, the 60 million is

[1:22:34] the entity for that contract

[1:22:36] but for right now we are

[1:22:37] actually receiving revenue and

[1:22:39] do so throughout the ten years

[1:22:40] of that contract and still have

[1:22:41] until we purchase the actuals

[1:22:44] on the buyout and we do

[1:22:45] anticipate an update as part of

[1:22:48] the budget process on where we

[1:22:49] are with those anticipated

[1:22:53] costs and revenues.

[1:22:54] Okay.

[1:22:55] So when are we going to get a

[1:22:55] report This is how many are

[1:22:58] installed and how many are left

[1:22:59] to install.

[1:23:02] >> So we have category one is

[1:23:03] all the way through.

[1:23:04] That's all the public facing

[1:23:04] sites.

[1:23:04] We are starting to work to

[1:23:08] identify category twos.

[1:23:08] Those are our workplace

[1:23:09] chargers.

[1:23:09] We also have chargers going in

[1:23:12] as part of a number of our

[1:23:13] cities.

[1:23:13] That includes the update to

[1:23:17] Brownfield.

[1:23:17] There are charging ports that

[1:23:18] we're going to be installing

[1:23:19] when the East Village Green

[1:23:22] Project comes in and a number

[1:23:27] of our other kind of required

[1:23:28] charge like is now required in

[1:23:31] new construction.

[1:23:31] And so we're working with those

[1:23:32] and those will be obviously

[1:23:36] online as we as the projects

[1:23:36] come online.

[1:23:39] But right now we've got about

[1:23:43] 600 ish reports in the queue

[1:23:43] across 47 excuse me 47

[1:23:44] different sites that are all

[1:23:48] going through the permitting

[1:23:49] and the electrification of

[1:23:53] the genie side of the process.

[1:23:54] Once we have those through that

[1:23:54] everything's been approved and

[1:23:57] the work is completed will then

[1:23:58] start notifying different sites

[1:24:01] on their construction timeline

[1:24:02] .

[1:24:03] But right now everything that

[1:24:04] is we are on track in timeline

[1:24:07] for things getting through

[1:24:07] permitting and into

[1:24:11] construction because we are

[1:24:12] just going to offer if it's of

[1:24:13] interest we'd be happy to

[1:24:16] prepare a written report or

[1:24:16] provide a update to council

[1:24:17] committee.

[1:24:21] I think it would be helpful to

[1:24:21] be in the Climate Action annual

[1:24:22] report as well because our

[1:24:26] Climate Action advocates are

[1:24:27] really asking us to forget to

[1:24:27] do that.

[1:24:31] So I'm happy to receive a

[1:24:32] report but it'd be nice for

[1:24:33] the public to see it too.

[1:24:33] What about our up goals?

[1:24:34] I don't see anywhere in this

[1:24:36] report how many installations

[1:24:37] we've done that have actually

[1:24:37] met our zero emissions goals.

[1:24:40] I mean we have a library in

[1:24:41] Carmel Valley that's fully

[1:24:41] electric Now we're building or

[1:24:45] maybe we've built the fire

[1:24:46] station that's fully electric

[1:24:47] And so it's just none of this

[1:24:47] is in this report so I can't

[1:24:50] track it or see it.

[1:24:50] Didn't the city plan over a

[1:24:54] thousand trees last year?

[1:24:55] This was also not in

[1:24:55] the PowerPoint.

[1:24:56] Where does that bring us to our

[1:24:56] canopy goals?

[1:24:59] I just I'm having a hard time

[1:25:00] tracking data with what we're

[1:25:04] we're seeing here And the city

[1:25:04] is doing more and we should be

[1:25:08] showing what we're doing.

[1:25:09] Councilmember, I would just

[1:25:13] note this is not kind of

[1:25:14] the regular annual reporting

[1:25:14] that we have typically done.

[1:25:15] We did provide that to

[1:25:18] the Environment Committee I

[1:25:19] think in NOVEMBER And as staff

[1:25:20] mentioned, we'll have another

[1:25:23] more detailed annual report

[1:25:24] ready this spring.

[1:25:25] So I think we're just maybe not

[1:25:28] providing the same level of

[1:25:29] detail about each action as as

[1:25:33] we would in the annual report.

[1:25:34] A lot of that information is

[1:25:34] available or can be made

[1:25:35] available But I understand that

[1:25:38] you're looking for more detail

[1:25:38] in terms of the status and

[1:25:39] indicators within each

[1:25:41] individual action.

[1:25:47] So I appreciate that feedback.

[1:25:47] Okay.

[1:25:48] I think would be much more

[1:25:48] helpful going forward.

[1:25:54] Thank you for the presentation

[1:25:55] .

[1:25:55] >> All right.

[1:25:56] Thank you.

[1:25:56] Councilmember Van Wilpert, not

[1:25:57] seeing anybody else on

[1:25:59] the lights.

[1:25:59] I'll offer a couple of comments

[1:26:04] My colleagues asked a number of

[1:26:05] the questions that I was going

[1:26:08] to touch on but thank you for

[1:26:08] the presentation and

[1:26:09] the broader presentation.

[1:26:10] They actually did an

[1:26:13] environment committee and being

[1:26:14] sensitive to how busy city

[1:26:14] council is that Maybe this

[1:26:18] presentation got a little

[1:26:18] abbreviated.

[1:26:19] I appreciate Councilmember Von

[1:26:22] Wolpert actually highlighting

[1:26:23] the number of things that we

[1:26:24] are doing as a city that we

[1:26:27] didn't actually detail out in

[1:26:28] today's presentation.

[1:26:32] I also once again want to thank

[1:26:32] City planning and general

[1:26:33] services that absorbed the old

[1:26:37] sustainability mobility

[1:26:37] department and kept everybody

[1:26:42] on the ground running.

[1:26:42] So I certainly want to

[1:26:43] recognize the work that's been

[1:26:47] done on climate across multiple

[1:26:48] departments and the integration

[1:26:48] of climate action throughout

[1:26:49] our city and our budget

[1:26:52] processes And these efforts

[1:26:53] should be recognized despite

[1:26:53] limited city funding and

[1:26:56] adverse of federal

[1:26:57] administration and court

[1:26:58] rulings that are holding us

[1:26:58] back, the goals remain

[1:27:02] imperative to the welfare of

[1:27:03] the city, our quality of life,

[1:27:03] the stability of our economy

[1:27:04] and of course future

[1:27:06] generations.

[1:27:11] I do want to just reemphasize

[1:27:12] what has been mentioned that

[1:27:13] the city has actually been very

[1:27:17] aggressive.

[1:27:17] I know government never moves

[1:27:21] as fast but people actually

[1:27:22] want us to go down a little bit

[1:27:23] slower so they understand what

[1:27:23] we're doing and when we're

[1:27:24] doing it.

[1:27:26] But the recent asco contract

[1:27:27] that we approved I don't even

[1:27:28] know what it was that last week

[1:27:31] or last month was a huge step

[1:27:32] for the city and and hopefully

[1:27:35] will be the pioneer that shows

[1:27:36] the way for us to do more of

[1:27:39] those.

[1:27:40] I want to emphasize then that

[1:27:44] not only affects city buildings

[1:27:45] but it affects buildings that

[1:27:50] are on city property which I

[1:27:51] had to fight very hard to get

[1:27:52] those on for those And just a

[1:27:54] while you did a big effort to

[1:27:55] try to get those on our city

[1:27:59] owned properties And for

[1:28:00] the lessees the public spoke a

[1:28:01] little bit about the impact of

[1:28:04] city Genie but missed something

[1:28:05] that I think we've all kind of

[1:28:08] seen now.

[1:28:09] I mean not only can you talk

[1:28:13] about the cost of electricity

[1:28:13] but the investor owned

[1:28:18] utilities lobby the cpc not

[1:28:19] only on net metering but they

[1:28:19] also imposed a lot of other

[1:28:23] requirements on the case that

[1:28:23] increased the cost of doing

[1:28:27] business And as the former

[1:28:28] chair of Community Power I

[1:28:29] thought directly the impact on

[1:28:32] what that did in terms of

[1:28:33] expanding the renewable

[1:28:37] portfolio going forward.

[1:28:38] And what we also saw is

[1:28:42] the resistance of trying to

[1:28:43] build renewable energy within

[1:28:46] our own backyard and trying to

[1:28:47] figure out how we actually meet

[1:28:48] those very, very ambitious

[1:28:51] goals.

[1:28:52] So there's a lot of things that

[1:28:53] come after us that interfere

[1:28:56] with our ability But

[1:28:57] nevertheless city staff do a

[1:28:57] remarkable job.

[1:29:01] The folks at Community Power do

[1:29:01] a remarkable job.

[1:29:02] And for those of you that were

[1:29:06] talking about sea level rise

[1:29:07] that in resilient city it is

[1:29:07] not in the climate action plan

[1:29:10] which is why we didn't talk

[1:29:11] about it today And I'll close

[1:29:15] with joining my colleagues as

[1:29:16] well as the aba be very

[1:29:20] interested in how we can have a

[1:29:20] shorter turnaround in terms of

[1:29:24] modern measuring goals and then

[1:29:25] reporting on them.

[1:29:26] I know we throw a lot at you

[1:29:29] and we don't give you

[1:29:29] the resources to do that work

[1:29:30] but to agree that we can better

[1:29:34] understand what's working and

[1:29:34] what's not.

[1:29:35] I think it would be helpful for

[1:29:40] all of us going forward So I'll

[1:29:40] close there Again, thank you

[1:29:41] for the good work Not seeing

[1:29:44] anybody else in lights this was

[1:29:44] an information item.

[1:29:45] No motion was required so we

[1:29:48] will close There And again

[1:29:49] thank you to city staff in

[1:29:50] the mayor's office for your

[1:29:53] good work on this effort.

[1:29:54] And so with that Clark please

[1:29:58] introduce item s 400 Thank you

[1:30:01] Council PRESIDENT Items 400 is

[1:30:02] to authorize a Second Amendment

[1:30:02] to lease agreement between

[1:30:03] the City of San Diego and

[1:30:06] the zoological Society of San

[1:30:07] Diego for the San Diego Zoo

[1:30:07] property located in Balboa

[1:30:08] Park.

[1:30:12] If you are here and like to

[1:30:13] speak on this item please

[1:30:13] submit a speaker up to

[1:30:16] the front clear box at

[1:30:16] the front of the room or if

[1:30:17] you're participating virtually

[1:30:18] now's the time to raise your

[1:30:20] hand by pressing Star nine or

[1:30:20] the raise your hand icon.

[1:30:21] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[1:30:29] right Thank you And city staff

[1:30:30] I understand you're going to be

[1:30:30] doing a combined presentation

[1:30:35] so please in addition for

[1:30:35] record and how much time do you

[1:30:38] need for the total presentation

[1:30:39] ?

[1:30:39] Thank you.

[1:30:40] Council PRESIDENT Good

[1:30:44] afternoon, Council members I'm

[1:30:44] Casey Smith, chief of Housing

[1:30:45] and Community Development and I

[1:30:46] will need about 13 minutes for

[1:30:51] a joint presentation today.

[1:30:51] >> All right.

[1:30:52] I'm here to present the Second

[1:30:53] Amendment of the lease

[1:30:56] agreement with the zoo for

[1:30:57] the property located within

[1:30:57] Balboa Park.

[1:30:58] With me today from the city is

[1:31:01] Christina Biller, director

[1:31:02] Economic Development Department

[1:31:06] policy advisor Emily Tennessee

[1:31:06] and Deputy city Attorney Julie

[1:31:07] Inman.

[1:31:10] We also have Adam de treasurer

[1:31:11] of the Board of Trustees of

[1:31:11] the San Diego Zoo Wildlife

[1:31:12] Alliance and other

[1:31:15] representatives from the San

[1:31:16] Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance

[1:31:20] With us today the Zoological

[1:31:21] Society of San Diego Society is

[1:31:22] operated the Zoo and Balboa

[1:31:23] Park since 1916.

[1:31:24] For today's purposes I'll be

[1:31:25] referring to the Zoological

[1:31:28] Society as the zoo.

[1:31:29] The current lease agreement was

[1:31:32] originally executed in JULY of

[1:31:33] 1979 and has a term of 55 years

[1:31:36] expiring in JULY of 2034.

[1:31:37] The zoo property is an

[1:31:38] important asset of the city and

[1:31:41] region and the zoo is a major

[1:31:42] contributor to local tourism

[1:31:45] generating 3.9 million visits

[1:31:45] in 2024 with guests spending

[1:31:49] over 571 million in the region

[1:31:51] with a total economic impact of

[1:31:52] 925 million and San Diego

[1:31:52] Further, the zoo supports

[1:31:56] nearly 6500 jobs in addition to

[1:31:57] the zoo within Balboa Park.

[1:31:58] They also lease and operate

[1:32:01] the San Diego Zoo Safari Park

[1:32:02] and City of San Diego Public

[1:32:03] Utility Department property in

[1:32:06] the San Pasquale Valley Due to

[1:32:07] the implementation of paid

[1:32:07] parking above all of Park

[1:32:11] the Zoo approached the city

[1:32:11] last summer and requested a

[1:32:12] minor amendment allowing for

[1:32:13] the zoo to charge different

[1:32:15] rates for users of the zoo

[1:32:16] parking lot.

[1:32:17] This change was approved by

[1:32:20] city council on SEPTEMBER 18th

[1:32:20] of last year.

[1:32:21] During those initial lease

[1:32:25] negotiations for the First

[1:32:25] Amendment, the zoo expressed

[1:32:26] interest in extending their

[1:32:27] current lease and those

[1:32:29] negotiations have concluded

[1:32:30] The Second Amendment extends

[1:32:30] the current lease and allows

[1:32:33] for an annual payment to

[1:32:34] the city and revenue split of

[1:32:35] parking For those listening in

[1:32:39] who MAY not be familiar with

[1:32:40] the site for today's

[1:32:40] conversation on your screen you

[1:32:41] will see online and read Is

[1:32:44] the zoo lease within Balboa

[1:32:45] Park But the parking lot on

[1:32:47] the right to highlight

[1:32:48] the Second Amendment and

[1:32:49] the amendment extends the lease

[1:32:49] by 52 years from the current

[1:32:52] date to JULY 23rd 2078 making

[1:32:53] the entire lease period 99

[1:32:57] years or as the eBay pointed

[1:32:58] out in their report extends

[1:32:58] the lease by 44 years from

[1:33:01] the current lease expiration

[1:33:02] date of 2034.

[1:33:03] There is a $3 million annual

[1:33:06] payment as part of this

[1:33:06] amendment with a 3% annual

[1:33:09] escalator there is a 5050

[1:33:10] revenue split minus reasonable

[1:33:13] expenses that is capped at

[1:33:14] 700,000 per year.

[1:33:14] It's important to note that

[1:33:17] there is no escalator on

[1:33:18] the 700,000 that amount of

[1:33:18] space for the duration of

[1:33:19] the lease.

[1:33:22] There are no changes to

[1:33:22] the zoo's obligation to

[1:33:23] maintain the zoo parking lot

[1:33:24] including capital and day to

[1:33:26] day maintenance.

[1:33:27] The zoo will be required to

[1:33:28] provide a new survey and map of

[1:33:29] the leasehold based on approval

[1:33:32] from City Parks and Rec and 80

[1:33:33] d staff which will be completed

[1:33:34] within six months of lease

[1:33:36] execution.

[1:33:37] This amendment adds prevailing

[1:33:37] wage and the city's zero

[1:33:41] emissions building policy or

[1:33:42] Zimbabwe into the lease.

[1:33:42] This amendment requires the zoo

[1:33:45] to provide at a minimum

[1:33:46] $250,000 in complimentary daily

[1:33:47] admission tickets annually to

[1:33:50] San Diego nonprofits, school

[1:33:51] groups and children.

[1:33:55] Some important items to note

[1:33:55] about this amendment The 3

[1:33:56] million annual payment can be

[1:33:57] reduced or eliminated if there

[1:34:00] are further changes or removal

[1:34:01] of paid parking in Balboa Park.

[1:34:02] I will have an example in a few

[1:34:04] slides to walk you through this

[1:34:05] If the zoo charges for parking

[1:34:06] at any time the city is

[1:34:09] entitled to 50% of the revenue.

[1:34:09] The third the 3% annual

[1:34:13] escalator will commence in

[1:34:14] 2030.

[1:34:14] The annual payment is due to

[1:34:17] the city by APRIL 1st of each

[1:34:18] year For this year the current

[1:34:19] payment will be due in 30 days

[1:34:22] from execution of the lease

[1:34:22] the total amount of revenue

[1:34:23] the city will receive from

[1:34:27] the annual minimum payment is

[1:34:28] approximately 330 plus million

[1:34:28] assuming there are no changes

[1:34:32] to paid parking in Balboa Park,

[1:34:33] the 5050 revenue payment is due

[1:34:36] to the city by MAY 15th of each

[1:34:36] year and is collected based on

[1:34:37] the calendar year.

[1:34:40] The revenue stays in Balboa

[1:34:40] Park and will be deposited into

[1:34:41] the Balboa Park paid parking

[1:34:45] program Fund which can be used

[1:34:46] by Parks and Rec for day to day

[1:34:49] operations Capital etc. In

[1:34:49] Balboa Park.

[1:34:50] This amendment also ensures

[1:34:54] that city residents are charged

[1:34:54] commensurate rates for parking

[1:34:59] in the zoo parking lot in

[1:35:00] the event the city does not

[1:35:02] charge for parking with in

[1:35:03] Balboa Park on five or more

[1:35:04] days in any calendar year

[1:35:05] including both consecutive and

[1:35:08] non consecutive free parking

[1:35:09] days but excluding any city

[1:35:10] holidays the city's minimum

[1:35:13] payment shall be reduced by a

[1:35:14] percentage equivalent to

[1:35:15] the total number of days in

[1:35:15] which no parking fees are

[1:35:18] charged.

[1:35:19] As an example, if the city does

[1:35:19] not charge for parking on 15

[1:35:22] days exclusive of city holidays

[1:35:23] ,the city's minimum payment in

[1:35:26] that calendar year would be

[1:35:27] reduced by 4.11% such that a

[1:35:30] minimum payment otherwise due 3

[1:35:31] million would be reduced by

[1:35:34] approximately 123,000 for a

[1:35:37] total city minimum payment of

[1:35:38] roughly 2.8 million before use

[1:35:39] an example of parking revenue

[1:35:43] breakdown assuming the zoo

[1:35:43] parking lot takes in 6 million

[1:35:46] in revenue in calendar year

[1:35:46] 2027 and assuming that there

[1:35:47] are no additional changes to

[1:35:51] the parking in Balboa Park that

[1:35:51] impact the number of days

[1:35:52] the city charges for parking if

[1:35:56] the day to day operating

[1:35:56] expenses are 1.4 million you

[1:35:59] would take the 6 million

[1:36:00] subtract the 700 k for the cap

[1:36:03] on annual operating expenses

[1:36:04] which would leave 5.3 million.

[1:36:07] You would then split the 5.3

[1:36:08] million 5050 leaving 2.65

[1:36:08] million because the city

[1:36:12] already received the 3 million

[1:36:12] annual minimum payment the city

[1:36:13] would not receive any

[1:36:13] additional revenue from paid

[1:36:17] parking in calendar year 2027

[1:36:17] Using this example however, as

[1:36:21] revenue from paid parking in

[1:36:22] the zoo lot increases

[1:36:22] the chances of the city

[1:36:23] receiving more revenue

[1:36:26] increases.

[1:36:26] For instance if this amount

[1:36:30] were 10 million and the city

[1:36:30] would receive 4.65 million or

[1:36:33] 1.65 million more above the 3

[1:36:38] million annual payment amount.

[1:36:39] >> The proposed actions before

[1:36:40] you today are make a finding

[1:36:42] under Council Policy 700 Dash

[1:36:43] ten that the Second Amendment

[1:36:43] will serve a valid public

[1:36:47] purpose and provide public

[1:36:48] benefit Adopt a resolution

[1:36:51] The way of Part five Section c

[1:36:51] six of Council Policy 710

[1:36:55] authorizes the cfo to accept

[1:36:56] and deposit revenue into

[1:36:57] the Balboa Park Paid Parking

[1:37:00] Program fund determine that

[1:37:01] approval of a Second Amendment

[1:37:01] is categorically categorically

[1:37:05] exempt from sequel and finally

[1:37:06] authorize the execution of

[1:37:07] the Second Amendment to

[1:37:07] the lease agreement between

[1:37:10] the city and zoological Society

[1:37:11] of San Diego For the San Diego

[1:37:12] Zoo property located in Balboa

[1:37:15] Park.

[1:37:15] That concludes my portion of

[1:37:16] the presentation And at this

[1:37:17] time I would like to invite

[1:37:20] Adam de Treasurer of the Board

[1:37:20] of Trustees of the San Diego

[1:37:21] Zoo Wildlife Alliance up to

[1:37:24] the dais to say a few words.

[1:37:25] Good afternoon Council

[1:37:25] PRESIDENT And members of

[1:37:29] the City Council.

[1:37:30] It's my pleasure to be here On

[1:37:31] behalf of my colleagues in

[1:37:32] the Board of Trustees I'd like

[1:37:32] to recognize my colleague

[1:37:35] Trustee Emeritus Wrigley who's

[1:37:35] here along with our senior

[1:37:36] staff and along with as you see

[1:37:40] many of our dedicated and very

[1:37:40] special volunteers who join us

[1:37:41] as well.

[1:37:44] Next slide please.

[1:37:45] For over 100 years the San

[1:37:46] Diego Zoo and the city of San

[1:37:49] Diego have enjoyed a

[1:37:50] tremendously positive

[1:37:51] relationship I think one that

[1:37:51] flows equally in both

[1:37:54] directions the zoo and its

[1:37:55] property, its world class

[1:37:56] collection of plants and

[1:37:59] animals all belong to you and

[1:38:00] are owned by the city.

[1:38:00] It's our honor and privilege to

[1:38:04] serve as your stewards for such

[1:38:05] a well-respected institution

[1:38:06] built by previous generations

[1:38:09] of visionary city leadership

[1:38:09] and passionate and dedicated

[1:38:10] team members and volunteers.

[1:38:14] For the past eight months it

[1:38:15] has been my honor and privilege

[1:38:15] to represent the zoo in

[1:38:18] negotiating this lease

[1:38:19] amendment with Casey Smith on

[1:38:19] behalf of the city and

[1:38:20] the mayor and the city

[1:38:20] attorney.

[1:38:24] I can tell you those

[1:38:25] negotiations were certainly

[1:38:25] rigorous.

[1:38:26] It took us eight months just a

[1:38:26] bit of time.

[1:38:28] But I do think they were very

[1:38:29] thorough.

[1:38:29] And it's also been my pleasure

[1:38:30] to interact with each of you

[1:38:33] and your staffs and I

[1:38:33] appreciate your attention to

[1:38:34] this important matter.

[1:38:38] We MAY be a bit biased but we

[1:38:38] start with the proposition that

[1:38:39] the San Diego Zoo is the crown

[1:38:42] jewel in the entire city and in

[1:38:42] fact the entire county.

[1:38:43] The proposal before you today

[1:38:46] aims to keep itself Your vote

[1:38:47] today will allow our successful

[1:38:48] relationship to thrive for

[1:38:48] generations to come.

[1:38:52] And adapt as we prepare for

[1:38:53] what the zoo will look like in

[1:38:53] the next 50 years.

[1:38:57] The action before you honors

[1:38:58] the commitment I made to you in

[1:38:58] SEPTEMBER and goes even further

[1:39:02] both financially as well as

[1:39:03] with updated lease provisions

[1:39:03] that MR. Smith has identified.

[1:39:07] And it allows us an extension

[1:39:07] of the lease term so that we

[1:39:08] can properly plan and execute

[1:39:12] on future projects to ensure we

[1:39:12] maintain our legacy of

[1:39:13] excellence.

[1:39:14] We plan in terms of decades not

[1:39:16] years.

[1:39:17] And this extension gives us

[1:39:18] the ability to work with our

[1:39:18] financial institutions to

[1:39:21] further invest in deferred

[1:39:22] maintenance and new capital

[1:39:22] projects.

[1:39:23] I believe this represents a

[1:39:26] true partnership and successful

[1:39:27] negotiation for both parties

[1:39:31] while ensuring our legal and

[1:39:32] fiduciary obligations.

[1:39:32] I thank you for your time.

[1:39:33] I hope we've addressed any

[1:39:37] concerns and I am hopeful to

[1:39:38] earn your positive vote on this

[1:39:38] critically important matter.

[1:39:40] I would now like to introduce

[1:39:45] our present ceo MR. Shawn Dixon

[1:39:45] .

[1:39:50] Thank you.

[1:39:50] >> Good afternoon, Council

[1:39:51] PRESIDENT Council members I'm

[1:39:52] standing here in a historic

[1:39:54] moment for this community.

[1:39:55] If you could go to the next

[1:39:59] slide for me.

[1:40:00] We are the crown jewel of San

[1:40:00] Diego.

[1:40:04] We produce $2.1 billion in

[1:40:05] economic activity in the San

[1:40:09] Diego region.

[1:40:10] We welcome over 3.9 visitors

[1:40:11] and a lot of those visitors

[1:40:14] come here just to visit the San

[1:40:15] Diego Zoo.

[1:40:20] It's incredible.

[1:40:20] It's an incredible asset for

[1:40:21] this city.

[1:40:21] We're a major employer.

[1:40:25] I think you heard from Casey We

[1:40:26] employ an impact of 6500

[1:40:29] employees That's just in San

[1:40:30] Diego.

[1:40:31] It's much higher if you think

[1:40:31] about the region of this

[1:40:31] economy.

[1:40:34] We're an employer that partners

[1:40:35] with labor.

[1:40:35] We have an incredibly strong

[1:40:39] labor force.

[1:40:40] We have jobs for first time

[1:40:41] jobs for first time people

[1:40:44] coming into the workforce And

[1:40:45] we have jobs that are lifelong

[1:40:49] career jobs for the city.

[1:40:50] The tenure of our organization

[1:40:51] runs from you started yesterday

[1:40:54] to 4550 year tenure age going

[1:40:59] through this organization and

[1:40:59] being employed by this

[1:41:00] organization.

[1:41:00] So we're very proud of

[1:41:01] the tenure of this

[1:41:01] organization.

[1:41:05] You'll hear from Erica on on

[1:41:06] community engagement and how we

[1:41:08] partner with the community to

[1:41:09] provide better access for

[1:41:10] school districts and visitors

[1:41:13] coming to the San Diego Zoo.

[1:41:14] We hope that you consider this

[1:41:15] lease extension for the benefit

[1:41:19] of this organization for

[1:41:20] the benefit of this community.

[1:41:20] Every dollar that we make we

[1:41:24] put back into the city assets.

[1:41:25] On the screen here it says $289

[1:41:29] million invested in the city

[1:41:30] asset over the last decade.

[1:41:30] Investments like Africa rocks a

[1:41:34] region within the zoo,

[1:41:35] investments like giant pandas,

[1:41:36] another region within the zoo

[1:41:40] and an investment of the All

[1:41:41] Children zoo called Wildlife

[1:41:41] Explorers Base Camp.

[1:41:45] All investments into this city

[1:41:45] .

[1:41:46] That's on top of the deferred

[1:41:47] maintenance of 110 year old I

[1:41:49] call it house 110 year old

[1:41:50] house that as you know as

[1:41:53] the city has all the deferred

[1:41:54] maintenance that goes along

[1:41:54] with it.

[1:41:55] And so we invest all those

[1:41:55] dollars back into the city's

[1:41:58] assets.

[1:41:59] This does not include the work

[1:42:00] that we do at the Safari Park

[1:42:04] in the conservation both

[1:42:05] locally and our Southwest and

[1:42:05] globally around the world that

[1:42:09] we do for conservation.

[1:42:10] The bottom line is we're asking

[1:42:10] you to extend this partnership

[1:42:11] and it truly is a partnership

[1:42:15] of ourselves and the city and

[1:42:15] we provide an economic and

[1:42:20] community benefit to this

[1:42:21] organization and this city.

[1:42:21] Additionally, we provide that

[1:42:26] economic benefit that goes

[1:42:26] beyond just the doors of

[1:42:27] the San Diego Zoo but to

[1:42:30] the community that lives here.

[1:42:31] Next I'd like to invite up

[1:42:32] Erica Koehler, our director,

[1:42:34] executive director of the San

[1:42:34] Diego Zoo.

[1:42:35] Thank you for your time and

[1:42:39] attention to this matter.

[1:42:40] Good afternoon.

[1:42:41] Council PRESIDENT And council

[1:42:41] members.

[1:42:45] Next slide please.

[1:42:49] This is a snapshot of the value

[1:42:50] that we provided to

[1:42:51] the community in 2025 and I'm

[1:42:51] really proud to share this with

[1:42:52] all of you.

[1:42:55] We provide engaging recreation

[1:42:56] for San Diego families a

[1:42:56] resource for residents not just

[1:43:00] tourists.

[1:43:01] And while we're recognized

[1:43:02] globally, we are the hometown

[1:43:05] zoo for San Diego Zoo which

[1:43:06] the residents can be proud of.

[1:43:07] More than 140,000 students

[1:43:11] visit us annually and we offer

[1:43:12] free and low cost programs for

[1:43:16] school schools, military and

[1:43:17] others which we commit to doing

[1:43:18] so because that's the core

[1:43:18] That's who we are.

[1:43:21] Next slide please.

[1:43:22] We offer free free field trips

[1:43:27] for all San Diego, San Diego

[1:43:27] second graders, free programs

[1:43:31] and field trips for kinder

[1:43:32] through fifth graders from

[1:43:32] Title one schools.

[1:43:33] We have educational internships

[1:43:37] and a youth career program for

[1:43:38] underserved youth.

[1:43:38] We serve 1000 wounded service

[1:43:42] members and their families and

[1:43:43] we have unique and educational

[1:43:44] offerings for 400,000 members.

[1:43:48] We are a living classroom that

[1:43:49] connects San Diego of all ages

[1:43:52] to the natural world.

[1:43:53] We have programs with hands on

[1:43:54] opportunities for students and

[1:43:58] the community at large.

[1:43:59] In addition, we have active

[1:43:59] conservation programs

[1:44:00] protecting endangered species

[1:44:03] at home.

[1:44:04] These programs are in our own

[1:44:04] backyard.

[1:44:05] A few examples include

[1:44:08] California condors, desert

[1:44:09] tortoise, mountain legged

[1:44:10] yellow frog and burrowing owls.

[1:44:14] And through our partnership

[1:44:14] with the city we help support

[1:44:19] San Diego becoming a bee city

[1:44:19] to support pollinator work

[1:44:20] which is important being an

[1:44:20] agricultural state.

[1:44:24] Our impact really extends

[1:44:25] across the entire community.

[1:44:26] And finally I'd like to close

[1:44:29] and invite Adam Beck up to

[1:44:34] the podium.

[1:44:35] Thank you, council members.

[1:44:36] In conclusion, we are proud to

[1:44:40] be your trusted partner for

[1:44:40] the last nine years.

[1:44:41] We'd love to continue that

[1:44:41] partnership.

[1:44:42] We're proud of the work that

[1:44:43] we've done and it's been done

[1:44:46] by our volunteers and our

[1:44:46] dedicated team members.

[1:44:47] And working very closely with

[1:44:48] the city of San Diego at all

[1:44:51] levels.

[1:44:52] We want to continue to reinvest

[1:44:52] back into the infrastructure,

[1:44:53] both the deferred maintenance

[1:44:54] as well as new projects that

[1:44:56] you've heard about.

[1:44:57] And we want to continue to make

[1:44:57] resources available to

[1:45:01] the broader community on a free

[1:45:01] or discounted basis.

[1:45:02] With that we are available to

[1:45:03] answer any questions and again

[1:45:07] I hope to earn your positive

[1:45:08] vote on this action.

[1:45:08] It's critically important to

[1:45:09] the future of the zoo.

[1:45:09] Thank you.

[1:45:12] All right.

[1:45:12] Thank you for the combined

[1:45:13] presentation.

[1:45:13] We'll turn it over to

[1:45:14] the Office of the Independent

[1:45:15] Budget Analyst.

[1:45:15] Thank you.

[1:45:17] Council PRESIDENT.

[1:45:18] On Friday our office released a

[1:45:19] report 20 6-07 which contains

[1:45:24] an analysis of the proposed

[1:45:25] amended lease agreement between

[1:45:25] the city and the zoo.

[1:45:26] For anyone who wisely decided

[1:45:28] not to spend the weekend

[1:45:29] reading that report, I'll

[1:45:29] provide a brief summary.

[1:45:30] Conservatively, we estimate

[1:45:31] the lease extension could

[1:45:34] generate 347.6 million in

[1:45:38] nominal or face value but using

[1:45:39] a 4.5% discount rate the net

[1:45:42] present value would be closer

[1:45:43] to 98.5 million for the entire

[1:45:43] 52 year length of the lease.

[1:45:44] This equates to an average

[1:45:49] annual revenue of 1.9 million

[1:45:50] in net present value.

[1:45:50] These amounts could decrease of

[1:45:54] the city pares back its part in

[1:45:54] the program in the ballpark but

[1:45:55] these amounts could also

[1:45:56] increase if the zoo generates

[1:45:56] gross revenue higher than

[1:45:59] the minimum payment amount.

[1:46:00] Council ultimately has three

[1:46:00] choices.

[1:46:05] One approve the proposed lease

[1:46:06] as negotiated at this time to

[1:46:06] request the item be returned to

[1:46:07] staff to further negotiate

[1:46:10] terms and conditions that could

[1:46:11] be represented to council at a

[1:46:12] future date.

[1:46:12] Or three reject the proposed

[1:46:13] lease extension and request

[1:46:16] staff Negotiate a new lease

[1:46:17] amendment closer to the current

[1:46:18] lease expiration date in 2034.

[1:46:22] As Council considers this lease

[1:46:23] proposal you MAY wish to waive

[1:46:23] short term and long term costs

[1:46:24] in benefits related to

[1:46:26] the terms of the lease.

[1:46:27] For example, one team

[1:46:28] structured only on paid parking

[1:46:32] related activity over 52 year

[1:46:33] period will be subject to

[1:46:34] fluctuations in parking

[1:46:34] policies And although the park

[1:46:38] evolve over time.

[1:46:39] Council MAY wish to consider

[1:46:40] alternative or additional

[1:46:40] payment economic options such

[1:46:44] as the percentage or dollar

[1:46:45] amount of tickets, membership

[1:46:45] concessions and sales and or

[1:46:49] gross rent from Subleases While

[1:46:50] the lease provides for review

[1:46:51] of payment terms every ten

[1:46:51] years to account for current

[1:46:55] economic conditions as required

[1:46:55] by state law.

[1:46:56] The lease assignment on what

[1:46:57] terms will be reviewed and

[1:46:57] adjusted or how disputes over

[1:47:00] adjustments will be mediated

[1:47:01] and resolved.

[1:47:02] The zoo like planned location

[1:47:02] for future zoo exhibit

[1:47:07] expansion which also entails

[1:47:08] the undergrounding of existing

[1:47:09] off the leases silent on how

[1:47:12] temporary or ongoing changes to

[1:47:12] the amount of onsite or offsite

[1:47:13] parking will be resolved.

[1:47:14] While the proposed lease

[1:47:18] amendment only applies to

[1:47:18] the zoo property that is

[1:47:19] current lease of the zoo

[1:47:19] property in Balboa Park and

[1:47:23] the Safari Park property in

[1:47:24] the same passable valley have a

[1:47:25] concurrent lease term and

[1:47:25] expiration date.

[1:47:29] Council MAY wish to consider

[1:47:29] the benefits and risks of

[1:47:30] negotiating these leases

[1:47:31] separately instead of

[1:47:31] concurrently as a package.

[1:47:35] And finally the fy 26 budget

[1:47:36] and fy 27 to 31 five year

[1:47:39] outlook assume $3 million in

[1:47:40] revenue from zoo parking.

[1:47:40] Returning this proposal to

[1:47:41] staff or requesting staff

[1:47:44] negotiate a new lease amendment

[1:47:45] closer to the current lease

[1:47:46] expiration date in 2034 would

[1:47:46] add to the current fiscal year

[1:47:50] projected shortfall potentially

[1:47:50] requiring use of the general

[1:47:51] Fund reserve and add to

[1:47:52] the projected budget deficit in

[1:47:57] the next future fiscal year.

[1:47:57] Thank you very much for

[1:47:58] attention and I'll be available

[1:47:59] to answer questions you MAY

[1:47:59] have for our office.

[1:48:01] All right.

[1:48:02] Thank you for your and your

[1:48:02] officers analysis of

[1:48:03] the proposal.

[1:48:08] So with that Claude, please

[1:48:09] proceed with public comment.

[1:48:09] >> Thank you.

[1:48:10] Council PRESIDENT We do have

[1:48:10] quite a number of speakers so

[1:48:13] we will be going to one minute

[1:48:14] each If I can have

[1:48:14] the following individuals

[1:48:15] please come out to the front

[1:48:20] row Sousa type You can come up

[1:48:21] to the podium to the high mike

[1:48:24] and then Jennifer Roy Craig

[1:48:25] Sanders Kelly Maiden Madden

[1:48:31] Marcia Didinger, Phillip

[1:48:32] McMullin, Beverly McKinney All

[1:48:36] Please come up to the front

[1:48:36] row.

[1:48:37] And if you could actually use

[1:48:38] the other mic because that way

[1:48:42] you can actually see the clock

[1:48:43] take away that 60s I appreciate

[1:48:48] you Please say hello.

[1:48:49] I am Susie Tight and I am a

[1:48:54] volunteer with San Diego Zoo

[1:48:54] Wildlife Alliance.

[1:48:55] I'm a San Diego native.

[1:49:00] I went to Torrey Pines High

[1:49:00] School.

[1:49:01] After that I went to the U.S.

[1:49:01] Naval Academy.

[1:49:02] I did four tours here in San

[1:49:06] Diego and after that I bought a

[1:49:07] house And I'm very happy to say

[1:49:08] I have now paid off

[1:49:12] the mortgage.

[1:49:12] I choose to spend my time with

[1:49:13] the zoo.

[1:49:13] I do that.

[1:49:18] I spend almost 1500 hours with

[1:49:18] them Last year both at the zoo,

[1:49:19] at the Safari Park and in our

[1:49:23] conservation science building

[1:49:24] where we're pulling dna out of

[1:49:24] Torrey Pines samples and doing

[1:49:30] endocrine studies on endangered

[1:49:31] species which we call during

[1:49:35] Down pooped for fun and I can

[1:49:36] share with you when I go and

[1:49:37] travel and I tell people I'm a

[1:49:42] zoo volunteer it is universally

[1:49:42] greeted with admiration and

[1:49:47] respect not just here in San

[1:49:48] Diego, not just in the United

[1:49:48] States but literally around

[1:49:49] the world.

[1:49:52] Thank you so much for listening

[1:49:53] to us.

[1:49:53] >> Thank you.

[1:49:59] Jennifer.

[1:49:59] Hi there.

[1:50:00] My name is Jennifer Roy and I'm

[1:50:05] a resident of District two.

[1:50:06] >> I am a longtime member of

[1:50:07] and more recently a volunteer

[1:50:12] for the San Diego Zoo and

[1:50:12] the Safari Park where I get to

[1:50:13] experience firsthand

[1:50:13] the positive impact of this

[1:50:17] special place.

[1:50:18] It inspires people of all ages

[1:50:19] to see and think about a world

[1:50:24] bigger than themselves.

[1:50:25] People come here because our

[1:50:25] zoo is awesome.

[1:50:29] I hear it over and over both in

[1:50:30] the park and while I'm

[1:50:30] traveling.

[1:50:31] Our entire city benefits from

[1:50:31] the vision, foresight and

[1:50:36] proper planning of this

[1:50:36] organization.

[1:50:37] But we don't get to rest on our

[1:50:41] laurels as 400 will allow us

[1:50:41] the ability to continue setting

[1:50:42] the bar.

[1:50:42] Thank you.

[1:50:46] Thank you.

[1:50:46] Next is Craig.

[1:50:47] Good afternoon council members

[1:50:52] and thank you for

[1:50:53] the opportunity to speak and

[1:50:54] share my support for this 400.

[1:50:58] As a volunteer at the zoo for

[1:50:58] four years I'm grateful that I

[1:50:59] have the opportunity to witness

[1:51:04] firsthand how dedicated

[1:51:04] the staff is out to

[1:51:09] the Wildlife Care and Safety

[1:51:10] and education afforded benefits

[1:51:16] conservation and the San Diego

[1:51:16] community.

[1:51:17] Our conservation programs exist

[1:51:17] for decades.

[1:51:21] Our zoo is helping save species

[1:51:22] here and around the world.

[1:51:28] Community impact Kids Every

[1:51:28] October.

[1:51:29] Active duty Military programs

[1:51:33] Free admission every day of

[1:51:34] the year field trips and

[1:51:40] education programs.

[1:51:40] The importance of successful

[1:51:41] passing of s-400 ensures I can

[1:51:46] continue our conservation and

[1:51:47] allowing for much needed

[1:51:47] planning required by welfare

[1:51:48] plants in our area.

[1:51:48] >> Thank you.

[1:51:50] Thank you, Kelly.

[1:51:57] Kelly It.

[1:51:58] >> Hello City Council members.

[1:52:02] My name is Kelly Madden and I'm

[1:52:03] here representing the zoo as a

[1:52:03] volunteer.

[1:52:08] Our world famous San Diego Zoo

[1:52:09] is not just an attraction.

[1:52:09] It's the heartbeat of our city

[1:52:15] and our economy and our pride.

[1:52:16] Currently San Diego Zoo is

[1:52:21] saving endangered species from

[1:52:22] all over the world and

[1:52:22] educating generations.

[1:52:23] As witnessed by myself when I

[1:52:27] was a little child and I'm

[1:52:27] still volunteering there.

[1:52:28] This work inspires hope and

[1:52:29] puts San Diego on the world

[1:52:33] stage ensuring long term

[1:52:33] stability and world class

[1:52:39] wildlife conservation.

[1:52:39] I strongly support you and

[1:52:45] support the zoo in our city and

[1:52:46] have you and ask your support

[1:52:49] in supporting f 400.

[1:52:50] Thank you for your time.

[1:52:50] Thank you Marcia.

[1:52:56] After that will be Phillip

[1:52:56] McMullen.

[1:53:01] Beverly McKinney.

[1:53:02] Read the full story at Fuller

[1:53:07] if you can all please come up

[1:53:07] to the front row.

[1:53:08] Those that are already spoken

[1:53:09] can definitely go back to their

[1:53:09] other seats.

[1:53:10] Please proceed.

[1:53:10] Thank you.

[1:53:13] Good afternoon council members

[1:53:14] and thank you for

[1:53:15] the opportunity to speak.

[1:53:19] My name is Marcia Day and I'm

[1:53:19] here to express my support for

[1:53:20] item f 400 and the volunteer

[1:53:24] for the last five years.

[1:53:31] This role has greatly enriched

[1:53:31] my life and I've seen firsthand

[1:53:32] how this youth commitment to

[1:53:33] our community enriches

[1:53:36] the lives of both children and

[1:53:37] adults.

[1:53:37] Programs such as Kids Free

[1:53:42] OCTOBER Free Daily Admission

[1:53:43] for active duty military field

[1:53:44] trips and educational programs

[1:53:48] make a meaningful difference

[1:53:49] for families across our region.

[1:53:49] I've been bringing my children,

[1:53:55] my grandchildren and now my

[1:53:56] great grandchildren here for

[1:53:56] more than five decades.

[1:54:00] I truly can't imagine San Diego

[1:54:01] without our world class famous

[1:54:01] San Diego Zoo.

[1:54:07] Thank you for your time and for

[1:54:07] listening.

[1:54:13] Gil Phillip.

[1:54:14] >> Good afternoon.

[1:54:14] Council members when he was

[1:54:15] still at the mall I live in

[1:54:20] Hillcrest and I did a volunteer

[1:54:21] at the zoo for four years.

[1:54:21] So I spent the last three years

[1:54:22] of my career in education So

[1:54:25] I'm very passionate about how

[1:54:26] important education is to us

[1:54:26] having a viable future as we

[1:54:31] say where all lives thrive.

[1:54:32] So in addition to all

[1:54:33] the benefit the zoo brings to

[1:54:36] the economy, I believe one of

[1:54:37] its most important missions is

[1:54:38] educating generations and

[1:54:38] generations from all over

[1:54:43] the world about well, animal

[1:54:44] welfare and in particular

[1:54:44] the very thin fragile line

[1:54:49] between extinction and

[1:54:49] endangered.

[1:54:50] So I really hope that you will

[1:54:51] support s 400 today and keep

[1:54:54] this important mission going.

[1:54:54] Thank you.

[1:54:55] Thank you, Beverly.

[1:55:00] Good afternoon council members

[1:55:07] and I live in Rolando so my

[1:55:07] council member is right here.

[1:55:08] I hope you will seriously

[1:55:13] consider s-400 today and agree

[1:55:13] to it.

[1:55:14] Long term planning is so

[1:55:19] important for an organization

[1:55:19] like this.

[1:55:20] Our work with endangered

[1:55:25] species like the Kino Check a

[1:55:25] moth butterfly that we put back

[1:55:26] into the environment here in

[1:55:31] the county.

[1:55:32] Those kinds of scientific works

[1:55:32] take enormous planning and

[1:55:38] there has to be time for that

[1:55:38] planning.

[1:55:39] So an extended lease is

[1:55:39] critically important.

[1:55:43] We can all talk about what

[1:55:44] the zoo does for kids.

[1:55:44] It's amazing and you all know

[1:55:45] that.

[1:55:47] Thank you for your time.

[1:55:53] >> Rodolfo.

[1:55:54] Hi, COUNCILMAN.

[1:55:55] Thank you for having me Here.

[1:55:55] Let me speak.

[1:55:59] I want to say that I hope you

[1:56:00] will support s 400 because it's

[1:56:00] really important.

[1:56:01] One of the things that

[1:56:05] experience that really is

[1:56:06] heartwarming to me is seeing

[1:56:07] kids come to the school and

[1:56:12] talk about the experience of

[1:56:12] being all excited.

[1:56:13] There's these kids that get

[1:56:14] support by the programs that we

[1:56:17] offered them and some of them

[1:56:18] come from Calexico in that area

[1:56:19] and on the Free Kids in October

[1:56:24] and they get up at 4:00 to go

[1:56:25] to the meeting place and then

[1:56:29] they leave at 430 and they

[1:56:30] arrive at the zoo and oh my

[1:56:30] GOD, they're so excited about

[1:56:31] being able to see the animals

[1:56:34] there and to see their their

[1:56:35] energy and their happiness.

[1:56:36] These are the young minds that

[1:56:40] we are forming to help preserve

[1:56:41] and the conservation of all

[1:56:42] the animals in the future.

[1:56:43] So you're supporting this

[1:56:43] program.

[1:56:47] Your support in the 400 is

[1:56:47] really meaningful and

[1:56:48] important.

[1:56:48] Thank you.

[1:56:53] Next is it for your final

[1:56:54] speaker here in council

[1:56:58] chambers?

[1:56:58] Please proceed.

[1:56:59] Thank you so much for your

[1:56:59] time.

[1:57:00] My wife and I both have been

[1:57:04] coming to the zoo for over 60

[1:57:05] years and we've seen so many

[1:57:06] changes It's really gone

[1:57:10] forward in and conservation and

[1:57:11] building for this community And

[1:57:16] I just can't imagine this

[1:57:17] community without the zoo.

[1:57:18] So I strongly support this

[1:57:18] resolution.

[1:57:23] Thank you.

[1:57:24] >> Thank you very much.

[1:57:24] I'm sorry The five minute time

[1:57:25] we're going to those

[1:57:25] participating remotely.

[1:57:27] We currently have eight people

[1:57:28] with our hands raised.

[1:57:28] If we can start with

[1:57:29] The Gambler if you can please

[1:57:32] unmute.

[1:57:33] You'll have one minute.

[1:57:33] Please proceed.

[1:57:34] I can't hear you.

[1:57:39] So let me go ahead and get this

[1:57:39] straight.

[1:57:44] >> The contract is good until

[1:57:44] the 32.

[1:57:45] So what are you threatening

[1:57:50] them of Removing it If you

[1:57:51] don't don't force them to make

[1:57:52] it pay parking.

[1:57:52] That part I don't really

[1:57:57] understand.

[1:57:58] There is no risk of the San

[1:57:58] Diego Zoo getting moved out and

[1:57:59] let's leave.

[1:58:03] City council members are that

[1:58:04] much of a joke which I believe

[1:58:04] that they truly are.

[1:58:08] Now I understand it because you

[1:58:09] guys don't really belong there.

[1:58:14] The elections we have 40

[1:58:15] leaders.

[1:58:15] I'm suspecting that this is

[1:58:20] going to be changing soon.

[1:58:21] I'm going I'm trying to work

[1:58:22] with Orange County to go in and

[1:58:26] fix elections if I can convince

[1:58:27] them to go ahead and rebuild

[1:58:27] the data.

[1:58:28] Then we don't have to really

[1:58:32] worry about bad leaders like we

[1:58:33] have in the city of San Diego.

[1:58:37] And I just hope that we don't

[1:58:37] postpone this until after this

[1:58:38] year.

[1:58:44] See what happens By the time

[1:58:45] you heard John Stump, if you

[1:58:48] can please unmute.

[1:58:49] >> Thank you very much.

[1:58:50] I'm urging you to take

[1:58:55] recommendation number two from

[1:58:56] the debate which is to send

[1:58:57] this back to committee.

[1:59:01] It's interesting what

[1:59:02] the leadership doesn't talk

[1:59:02] about.

[1:59:03] They don't talk about whether

[1:59:08] these are Sandy city of San

[1:59:09] Diego employees or are they

[1:59:14] regional San Diego employees.

[1:59:15] They don't talk about the long

[1:59:16] form infection that's

[1:59:16] threatening all the agriculture

[1:59:21] and health in San Diego in

[1:59:21] the region now.

[1:59:22] They don't talk about the fact

[1:59:26] that this deals with $2 billion

[1:59:27] to them.

[1:59:32] And I urge you to read by two

[1:59:32] memos Don't pass this now Send

[1:59:33] it back to committee.

[1:59:38] We have eight years before it's

[1:59:38] necessary.

[1:59:39] Thank you both.

[1:59:52] And in the future what where is

[1:59:53] the utilization data on

[1:59:53] the employees the zoo?

[1:59:53] Are they San Diego City of San

[1:59:54] Diego And what you're trying to

[1:59:54] do?

[1:59:57] Next to shame.

[1:59:57] Harris, if you can please

[1:59:58] unmute.

[1:59:58] After that it was all done.

[2:00:02] Shame on you.

[2:00:02] >> Yes.

[2:00:03] Can you hear me?

[2:00:03] Yes.

[2:00:03] Please proceed.

[2:00:08] Good afternoon Council.

[2:00:09] My name is Shane Harris and I'm

[2:00:09] today here today as a public as

[2:00:10] a public advocate for

[2:00:14] the residents of San Diego.

[2:00:15] I want to be clear at

[2:00:16] the outset I'm not here to

[2:00:16] argue for or against The city

[2:00:20] will do this amendment.

[2:00:20] The zoo is a treasured

[2:00:21] institution in our city and

[2:00:22] something many of us take pride

[2:00:22] in.

[2:00:26] My purpose today is to simply

[2:00:26] raise a few concerns that I

[2:00:27] believe deserve careful

[2:00:31] consideration.

[2:00:32] First, this proposal represents

[2:00:32] a very long term extension of a

[2:00:37] public asset located on one of

[2:00:38] the most important public parks

[2:00:39] in our city.

[2:00:39] When we enter into agreements,

[2:00:40] the length and scale of

[2:00:42] the public deserves confidence

[2:00:43] that the terms fully reflect

[2:00:44] the value of that asset and

[2:00:44] the long term interests of San

[2:00:49] Diego taxpayers.

[2:00:49] Second, there are legitimate

[2:00:50] questions about the financial

[2:00:51] structure of the agreement.

[2:00:51] The zoo is a globally

[2:00:55] recognized organization with

[2:00:56] significant revenue and

[2:00:56] resources.

[2:00:57] At the same time, the city of

[2:01:00] San Diego is facing serious

[2:01:01] budget challenges.

[2:01:01] It's reasonable for the public

[2:01:02] to ask whether the city is

[2:01:08] receiving a fair value and

[2:01:09] whether the additional

[2:01:09] opportunities exist for

[2:01:10] the zoo.

[2:01:10] >> Time has concluded.

[2:01:10] Thank you.

[2:01:13] Mary Saldana if you can please

[2:01:14] .

[2:01:14] I mean after that 8700.

[2:01:15] Yes.

[2:01:20] Thank you for in San Diego I

[2:01:21] visited the zoo also with my

[2:01:21] family and as an assembly

[2:01:22] member I visited behind

[2:01:25] the scenes and learn more about

[2:01:25] their operations.

[2:01:26] I admire how they support

[2:01:26] animals in their care,

[2:01:27] especially endangered and

[2:01:31] threatened species.

[2:01:32] But this important discussion

[2:01:32] needs to be more thoroughly

[2:01:33] reviewed by the Economic

[2:01:34] Development Committee.

[2:01:37] This is an economic discussion.

[2:01:38] Thanks to all the volunteers

[2:01:39] who showed up and testified.

[2:01:43] But the economic value of this

[2:01:44] is what's at stake and I am

[2:01:45] concerned that they have not

[2:01:45] installed solar panels over

[2:01:49] every square inch of their

[2:01:49] massive parking lot in my

[2:01:50] lifetime Even as the university

[2:01:54] schools and community colleges

[2:01:55] in San Diego have done over

[2:01:55] the last 20 years.

[2:01:56] I encourage the Climate Action

[2:01:57] Plan to estimate how much

[2:02:01] electricity would be generated

[2:02:01] by putting panels on

[2:02:02] the parking lot.

[2:02:02] And I'd like to know what is

[2:02:08] their annual energy bill.

[2:02:08] And were their operations

[2:02:09] included into the city's

[2:02:09] climate action plan?

[2:02:10] The original lease takes

[2:02:13] the book to the society shall

[2:02:14] be open to the city by APRIL

[2:02:14] 1st of each year.

[2:02:15] I look forward to seeing your

[2:02:18] utility bills on APRIL first.

[2:02:19] >> Thank you for that

[2:02:20] concluding comment 8700 If you

[2:02:24] can please unmute Star six.

[2:02:25] >> That also includes a five

[2:02:25] minute timer.

[2:02:26] There are six people with their

[2:02:27] hands raised no additional

[2:02:30] speakers will be taken.

[2:02:31] Please proceed.

[2:02:36] Thank you Joyce.

[2:02:37] A big question for you.

[2:02:41] What about the assets of

[2:02:42] the employees?

[2:02:43] I Googled a lot of this and it

[2:02:48] didn't look good at time.

[2:02:48] So 6500 jobs.

[2:02:54] So I want before we sign this

[2:03:00] approve this I want you to do a

[2:03:01] report to workforce report and

[2:03:02] I think you need to return this

[2:03:06] your staff and staff.

[2:03:07] Actually I would sort of love

[2:03:07] having a new a brand new lease

[2:03:11] but I would go with the middle

[2:03:12] road to the 52 year extension

[2:03:18] to 2078 is a major long term

[2:03:18] commitment of public land

[2:03:22] making it critical to align to

[2:03:23] align the 1979 agreement with

[2:03:29] current labor and equity

[2:03:29] standards.

[2:03:30] This is not being looked at

[2:03:35] completely and it's very

[2:03:36] important $800 million total

[2:03:36] asset value.

[2:03:37] What about our employees?

[2:03:42] I don't get it yet.

[2:03:42] Please.

[2:03:43] But the time has concluded when

[2:03:46] I'm writing an 8813 please

[2:03:47] email after that is Andrea I

[2:03:52] mean one three.

[2:03:52] I can't hear you.

[2:03:57] Okay thank you.

[2:03:58] So first off, I just kind of

[2:04:03] wanted to point out how gosh, I

[2:04:04] grew up going to the zoo but I

[2:04:08] am entirely against any animals

[2:04:14] being in cages including humans

[2:04:15] .

[2:04:21] And also I wanted to comment

[2:04:22] referring to where I just sort

[2:04:26] of pull over and speak a little

[2:04:27] climate crisis emission

[2:04:32] reduction A.K.A. Controlling

[2:04:33] the people's movement and

[2:04:38] behavior to accommodate goals

[2:04:39] for the un's 2030 plan and to

[2:04:40] further enslave the people in

[2:04:45] the skies above progress.

[2:04:46] I mean people really have to

[2:04:47] wake up to this and just like

[2:04:51] it because name was Bob

[2:04:51] Kozinski.

[2:04:52] MR. Kozinski had the best

[2:04:52] comments of all comments of

[2:04:58] the day regarding the previous

[2:04:59] item pest control.

[2:05:02] And I think if you can please

[2:05:03] on mute after you at 749 please

[2:05:09] proceed.

[2:05:10] I don't I mean I can't I mean

[2:05:11] if you're willing to move on if

[2:05:12] you can unmute you should have

[2:05:19] had a pop up come up We're

[2:05:23] willing to move on 7499 if you

[2:05:24] can please unmute.

[2:05:30] >> Bob do this here.

[2:05:30] Let me describe a hypothetical

[2:05:31] situation worth considering

[2:05:32] with regard to such a long

[2:05:35] lease.

[2:05:35] Let's imagine that one of

[2:05:36] the zookeepers was negligent

[2:05:39] and as a result of that

[2:05:40] negligence one of the zoo's

[2:05:40] elephants got loose and

[2:05:41] trampled a young woman who

[2:05:42] suffered a broken pelvis.

[2:05:46] Let's further imagine that a

[2:05:46] regular zoo visitor witnessed

[2:05:47] that negligence situation and

[2:05:48] had reported similar negligence

[2:05:51] in the past.

[2:05:52] Imagine that The young woman

[2:05:53] sued the zoo and she called on

[2:05:53] the regular visitor as an

[2:05:58] expert witness And that witness

[2:05:58] testified to the negligence

[2:05:59] that he had witnessed for years

[2:05:59] at the zoo.

[2:06:04] His testimony was devastating

[2:06:05] and the zoo settled the lawsuit

[2:06:05] for a lot of money and then

[2:06:10] the zoo began retaliating

[2:06:10] against that witness and banned

[2:06:11] him from coming to the zoo.

[2:06:12] But that said scenario sounds

[2:06:17] far fetched.

[2:06:17] It shouldn't because that's

[2:06:18] what's happened to be in

[2:06:19] the long term lease at Torrey

[2:06:19] Pines Glider Park.

[2:06:22] Despite the claims, a shorter

[2:06:23] term lease would not stop

[2:06:28] the zoo from doing all of

[2:06:29] the great things that it has

[2:06:29] done.

[2:06:29] Thank you.

[2:06:30] Thank you, Jay Powell.

[2:06:38] If you can please unmute Drew

[2:06:39] Powell please on Mute Star six

[2:06:43] or the pop up should have come

[2:06:44] up.

[2:06:44] >> Well, the pop up didn't come

[2:06:45] up immediately.

[2:06:45] Yes.

[2:06:46] Please proceed.

[2:06:50] I'd like the slide that shows

[2:06:51] the overall picture of

[2:06:56] the general view being pulled

[2:06:57] up before my time starts.

[2:07:01] And this is not about loading

[2:07:02] as you well know my family love

[2:07:03] this year.

[2:07:07] This is about a huge extension

[2:07:08] of a very, very long term.

[2:07:12] I'd like you to refer this back

[2:07:13] and also to the Climate

[2:07:14] Advisory Board, the Resilience

[2:07:14] Advisory Board.

[2:07:15] We're talking about the Climate

[2:07:19] Action Plan earlier

[2:07:19] notwithstanding the reporting

[2:07:20] requirements and the confusion

[2:07:24] about that.

[2:07:25] If this is something that

[2:07:26] the vast parking lot in that

[2:07:32] picture that you can see

[2:07:32] the largest single ever massive

[2:07:33] black and heat generated that

[2:07:37] could become a major energy

[2:07:38] pollution and rainwater

[2:07:39] contribution if it was properly

[2:07:39] designed to accommodate parking

[2:07:43] solar panel electric storage

[2:07:43] equipment Such a development

[2:07:44] conjunction with other

[2:07:45] improvement in the zoo

[2:07:49] facilities could serve as a

[2:07:49] community based microgrid.

[2:07:50] >> Your time has concluded

[2:07:52] Blair Beekman if you can please

[2:07:53] unmute and then Hector is our

[2:07:59] final speaker.

[2:08:00] Where have you been?

[2:08:11] I can read it for you about it.

[2:08:12] I knew a pop up should come up

[2:08:21] or some sort of instructions.

[2:08:21] I will need to move on more

[2:08:22] speaker is Hector if you can

[2:08:27] please unmute of Thanks for

[2:08:28] taking my comments Hector I

[2:08:32] would think I can do things for

[2:08:32] the city.

[2:08:33] Let's have a three hour

[2:08:34] question and answer period like

[2:08:39] down at the gym down there

[2:08:39] double park or double room

[2:08:42] where we can just ask everybody

[2:08:43] questions for three hours and

[2:08:44] get answers like the mayor and

[2:08:49] you guys And because it is you

[2:08:50] know this is how the city does

[2:08:51] it but they kind of circus

[2:08:51] things that jam it down

[2:08:55] Everyone's throat at the last

[2:08:55] minute you know But next time

[2:09:00] every big thing that's coming

[2:09:01] up all grown up to do And when

[2:09:02] I when I grew up there in

[2:09:06] the 50s the bus driver would go

[2:09:07] at the end of the bus route.

[2:09:07] They would point out the most

[2:09:12] dangerous animal ever to walk

[2:09:13] the earth And where they were

[2:09:13] there at the limit over there

[2:09:18] at Roosevelt Junior High

[2:09:18] School.

[2:09:19] The bus driver you say this is

[2:09:24] the most dangerous animal And

[2:09:25] it's true that we should bring

[2:09:25] that back to the bus driver to

[2:09:26] say that to the kids.

[2:09:31] It's true More than ever.

[2:09:31] Day one That concludes with a

[2:09:32] comment on this item.

[2:09:36] Thank you Council for All

[2:09:36] right.

[2:09:36] Thank you.

[2:09:37] I remember the road is at 163

[2:09:41] with that thank you for

[2:09:42] everyone that spoke here in

[2:09:42] chambers and those who

[2:09:43] participated remotely And as

[2:09:47] always thank you City clerk for

[2:09:47] handling all that.

[2:09:48] We'll turn it over to my

[2:09:49] council colleagues for

[2:09:53] questions, Comments Entertain a

[2:09:54] motion and we'll start with

[2:09:55] Council member Campbell Thank

[2:10:00] you very much Council PRESIDENT

[2:10:00] And thank you to staff for

[2:10:01] today's presentation and to

[2:10:06] everyone who came and called in

[2:10:06] with public comment.

[2:10:10] I appreciate these two lions

[2:10:10] very much.

[2:10:11] Thanks for being here.

[2:10:11] I'm pleased to support this

[2:10:16] amendment to the lease with

[2:10:16] the Zoological Society of San

[2:10:17] Diego for the continued

[2:10:21] operation of the World famous

[2:10:22] San Diego Zoo in Balboa Park.

[2:10:23] For more than a century the zoo

[2:10:23] has been one of ten.

[2:10:27] Diego's most treasured

[2:10:28] institutions and a major driver

[2:10:33] of our regional economy in 2024

[2:10:38] alone and welcomed nearly 3.9

[2:10:38] million visitors generated

[2:10:39] significant economic activity

[2:10:44] and supported at least 6500

[2:10:44] jobs.

[2:10:45] This amendment strengthens

[2:10:46] the city's long standing

[2:10:50] partnership with the zoo,

[2:10:51] providing stability for

[2:10:51] continued investment in

[2:10:56] the property and creates

[2:10:56] meaningful revenue for

[2:10:57] the city.

[2:10:57] This agreement includes an

[2:10:58] annual payment to the city that

[2:11:02] will grow over time.

[2:11:03] It also ensures continued

[2:11:08] community benefits including

[2:11:09] complimentary admissions for

[2:11:09] local nonprofits, school groups

[2:11:10] and children as well as

[2:11:15] prevailing wage requirements

[2:11:15] for construction and

[2:11:16] maintenance work.

[2:11:16] Overall, this agreement

[2:11:21] protects a key city asset while

[2:11:22] supporting one of San Diego's

[2:11:27] most iconic institutions.

[2:11:27] I'm happy to make the motion to

[2:11:28] support staff's recommendation.

[2:11:32] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[2:11:33] All right.

[2:11:33] Thank you, Council member

[2:11:34] Campbell.

[2:11:34] We have a motion to move

[2:11:35] the staff recommendation.

[2:11:39] I'll take the Liberty of

[2:11:39] jumping in.

[2:11:40] I want to thank you can see and

[2:11:41] everybody on the team that

[2:11:45] worked on this and representing

[2:11:51] the city very well There is no

[2:11:52] doubt about the love of the zoo

[2:11:53] and I'm not going to tell you

[2:11:53] that they are jokes I used to

[2:11:57] play with my daughters on it

[2:11:58] but that's not what's in front

[2:11:59] of us but in front of us as a

[2:12:02] real estate transaction And I

[2:12:03] think that's what was presented

[2:12:04] to us was a real estate

[2:12:08] transaction and I think my

[2:12:09] council colleagues will agree

[2:12:09] this is a real estate

[2:12:10] transaction.

[2:12:10] The action in front of us

[2:12:15] includes some waivers of 700

[2:12:15] Dash ten But I also want to

[2:12:20] remind folks that we also have

[2:12:21] another council policy 700 oh

[2:12:21] four that talks about what we

[2:12:27] do for projects in Balboa Park

[2:12:27] and as noted for city

[2:12:33] subsidized nonprofit cultural

[2:12:33] recreational institutions.

[2:12:34] In certain instances it MAY be

[2:12:35] necessary to grant an extended

[2:12:39] and specific term of occupancy

[2:12:40] to assist a tenant in securing

[2:12:41] financing for improvements or

[2:12:45] modifications to the premises.

[2:12:46] In these cases an appropriate

[2:12:47] term should be approved that is

[2:12:51] commensurate with the those

[2:12:51] requirements And I appreciate

[2:12:52] the fact that I think we that I

[2:12:55] do the math correct 30 million

[2:12:56] a year and infrastructure over

[2:12:57] the past ten years and I

[2:12:58] suspect we'll see that level of

[2:13:02] investment and more

[2:13:03] particularly to the comments of

[2:13:03] the public.

[2:13:04] I don't think that parking lot

[2:13:08] if they are for the long term

[2:13:09] obviously for those with longer

[2:13:13] memories there was a very

[2:13:14] ambitious plan laid out a

[2:13:14] number of years ago about

[2:13:19] things life gets in the way but

[2:13:20] I think we will see something

[2:13:21] which a much better use for

[2:13:25] that sea of asphalt that's out

[2:13:25] there while preserving the some

[2:13:26] 3000 parking spaces.

[2:13:31] It is also important to me that

[2:13:32] I am focused on the $3 million

[2:13:37] minimum per year to agree that

[2:13:38] to keep it that you were able

[2:13:39] to work out accommodations if

[2:13:44] revenue should exceed that.

[2:13:45] I consider that to be frosting

[2:13:45] on the cake something that we

[2:13:46] should not plan around budget

[2:13:49] conversations on but the 3

[2:13:50] million and as a minimum

[2:13:50] statement is something that we

[2:13:55] can now plan on going forward

[2:13:56] And I do want to recognize that

[2:14:01] even though pay parking is just

[2:14:01] getting started that is who has

[2:14:05] agreed to issue with that 3

[2:14:06] million for this fiscal fiscal

[2:14:07] year That should not go

[2:14:12] unnoticed.

[2:14:12] I also want to mention for

[2:14:17] the adding them up to the lease

[2:14:18] agreement which as I mentioned

[2:14:18] in the earlier item is

[2:14:23] particularly important to me

[2:14:23] because I was the one that

[2:14:24] fought to get them Bob included

[2:14:29] on city land even if it was

[2:14:30] leased to private parties and

[2:14:31] certainly recognize that that

[2:14:35] Bob does have exclusions in it

[2:14:35] there has to actually be

[2:14:36] feasible methods and there has

[2:14:40] to be a financial component.

[2:14:41] Prevailing wage is always

[2:14:42] important on big capital

[2:14:47] projects and then to counteract

[2:14:47] a couple of things that I heard

[2:14:53] one that I hear over that

[2:14:53] somebody said and keeps getting

[2:14:54] repeated over and over again

[2:14:55] this 3 million will go into

[2:14:58] the Balboa Park paid parking

[2:14:59] program.

[2:14:59] Is that correct?

[2:15:00] Casey That is correct.

[2:15:04] And all the parking revenue

[2:15:05] throughout Balboa Park goes

[2:15:06] into this pocket parking

[2:15:06] program essentially a lockbox

[2:15:10] and can only be used within

[2:15:11] Balboa Park.

[2:15:11] I think some members of

[2:15:12] the public try to confuse

[2:15:12] people.

[2:15:17] The other thing is for whatever

[2:15:17] you think about paid parking

[2:15:18] available park I learned quite

[2:15:19] a bit about Balboa Park despite

[2:15:22] being a native and having

[2:15:23] enjoyed Double Park over

[2:15:23] the years And one of the things

[2:15:24] I learned is that

[2:15:27] the leaseholders in double Park

[2:15:28] don't pay for water.

[2:15:29] The exception is that a number

[2:15:34] of years ago and the basic

[2:15:35] reason that there's only one

[2:15:36] meter for all your all

[2:15:39] the water system that goes

[2:15:40] throughout Balboa Park again

[2:15:40] except for those who put in a

[2:15:41] sub meter and they actually pay

[2:15:46] for their own water They're one

[2:15:51] of many things to be recognized

[2:15:52] and I think I mentioned

[2:15:53] the parking lot so I think I

[2:15:57] covered all the ground that I

[2:15:57] wanted to.

[2:15:58] So with that I will second

[2:15:59] the motion to move a staff

[2:16:03] recommendation And with that we

[2:16:04] will now go to Councilmember

[2:16:04] Moreno.

[2:16:10] Thank you and also thank you

[2:16:10] for the presentation.

[2:16:11] >> I want to thank city staff

[2:16:15] and representatives from

[2:16:16] the San Diego Zoo for the work

[2:16:17] that went into negotiating this

[2:16:21] amendment.

[2:16:22] The San Diego Zoo is an

[2:16:23] important institution in our

[2:16:23] city and it has a very long

[2:16:28] history in Balboa Park.

[2:16:28] It brings visitors from around

[2:16:29] the world and it plays an

[2:16:33] important role in conservation.

[2:16:34] But I think the most important

[2:16:40] thing that it does is it keeps

[2:16:41] local San Diego and students at

[2:16:45] the forefront of their mission

[2:16:45] .

[2:16:46] The zoo has a commitment to

[2:16:47] every second grader in San

[2:16:52] Diego so that they have access

[2:16:52] to the zoo for free.

[2:16:53] 36 years ago I was one of those

[2:16:58] students.

[2:16:59] So to say that the San Diego

[2:16:59] Zoo is a good steward of park

[2:17:00] land I think is an

[2:17:03] understatement.

[2:17:04] Currently the zoo houses 12,000

[2:17:05] animals that live in a

[2:17:09] naturalistic habitat eight

[2:17:10] gardens dedicated to native

[2:17:11] plant species And as one stated

[2:17:15] it generates an economic impact

[2:17:16] of about $2 billion.

[2:17:17] All of this exists within

[2:17:22] the larger area that makes it

[2:17:22] possible.

[2:17:23] Albert Park is one of the most

[2:17:28] important public spaces we have

[2:17:28] in the city and it belongs to

[2:17:29] the people of San Diego.

[2:17:34] Families come here because it's

[2:17:34] a place where they get to spend

[2:17:35] time together, enjoy

[2:17:36] the museums, the gardens and

[2:17:40] the cultural institutions

[2:17:41] without having to worry so much

[2:17:41] about cost.

[2:17:46] I voted in the past against

[2:17:46] paid parking at Balboa Park to

[2:17:47] keep the park accessible to

[2:17:51] everyone in San Diego.

[2:17:52] My colleagues have voted for

[2:17:52] paid parking at Balboa Park and

[2:17:57] this is why we are here today.

[2:17:58] I wish this was not

[2:17:58] the situation.

[2:17:59] However, this agreement

[2:18:03] continues our commitment to

[2:18:04] putting San Diegans first,

[2:18:05] supporting the world renowned

[2:18:10] wildlife conservation the zoo

[2:18:11] has achieved and also in my

[2:18:16] opinion ensuring a fair

[2:18:16] outcome.

[2:18:17] >> So therefore I will be

[2:18:17] voting on the motion before us

[2:18:23] today and that concludes my

[2:18:23] comments.

[2:18:23] Thank you.

[2:18:24] Thank you Council Member And I

[2:18:28] forgot to repeat that we do

[2:18:29] have a motion by Council member

[2:18:30] Campbell and second by myself

[2:18:30] to move The staff

[2:18:31] recommendation will go next to

[2:18:34] Councilmember Van Wilbert.

[2:18:34] Thank you Thank you for

[2:18:35] the work in the presentation on

[2:18:36] this and thank you to all of

[2:18:40] our volunteers here for

[2:18:41] The View.

[2:18:41] Every time I visit the zoo I am

[2:18:42] always incredibly delighted by

[2:18:45] every single volunteer who

[2:18:46] knows so much about

[2:18:46] the exhibits that they are

[2:18:51] volunteering for And I have

[2:18:52] been blown away by your

[2:18:53] dedication and your knowledge

[2:18:53] and your stewardship to

[2:18:57] the city.

[2:18:58] I mean these are volunteer

[2:18:58] positions that you're doing and

[2:18:59] I can see how deeply you care

[2:19:00] about the animals that you see

[2:19:04] and how you care about

[2:19:04] the public engaging.

[2:19:05] So just thank you for your

[2:19:05] work.

[2:19:06] Thank you for being here.

[2:19:06] We need more people in

[2:19:09] the world who are like the zoo

[2:19:10] volunteers And I just want to

[2:19:11] say how much I appreciate you.

[2:19:11] Thank you.

[2:19:16] To the zoo leadership as well.

[2:19:16] It's a wonderful opening of

[2:19:17] Elephant Valley last week at

[2:19:18] the City of Safari Park.

[2:19:22] i mean it made worldwide news.

[2:19:23] I was absolutely incredible to

[2:19:24] see and I can't wait to go back

[2:19:27] just as a regular visitor as

[2:19:27] well.

[2:19:28] I saw the lion the crowd

[2:19:29] waiting to come in and it was

[2:19:33] incredible.

[2:19:34] So I just want to thank you for

[2:19:35] being a world class institution

[2:19:36] located right here in the city

[2:19:40] of San Diego And I agree with

[2:19:40] what councilor or council

[2:19:41] PRESIDENT Obama stated We all

[2:19:45] are very, very excited about

[2:19:46] the zoo growing and being a

[2:19:46] part of our community and we

[2:19:47] have to do our jobs as council

[2:19:48] members review a lease and real

[2:19:51] estate transaction that really

[2:19:52] is not just about the zoo.

[2:19:52] That's why we have a bunch of

[2:19:53] questions about our real estate

[2:19:57] transactions going forward.

[2:19:58] One I do understand and I would

[2:20:03] assert that the Safari Park and

[2:20:04] the zoo are completely

[2:20:04] different negotiations for

[2:20:05] their leases.

[2:20:08] One of if the operating

[2:20:09] agreement is completely

[2:20:10] different than the Balboa Park.

[2:20:10] So I do think they should be

[2:20:11] done separately and we will

[2:20:16] have the Safari Park coming up

[2:20:16] soon.

[2:20:16] It's also peu de limited

[2:20:20] regulated by Prop 218 so it's

[2:20:21] completely different than

[2:20:21] the Buffalo Park.

[2:20:22] We also need to do this now

[2:20:23] because it was the city that

[2:20:26] put the urgency on the zoo to

[2:20:26] do this when we were the ones

[2:20:27] who instituted parking above

[2:20:31] all Park So that's why these

[2:20:31] are separate and I think that

[2:20:32] they should be second plug.

[2:20:33] We need to make sure that

[2:20:37] the farmers in the fantastical

[2:20:38] valley have their leases done.

[2:20:43] I cannot support having a

[2:20:44] neighbor next door having their

[2:20:45] lease done when our farmers

[2:20:45] have in four years.

[2:20:49] Mark Hertz who spent his entire

[2:20:50] term trying to get our farmers

[2:20:51] early to dine in the farmers

[2:20:51] cold alley and they're all

[2:20:55] partners you wouldn't believe

[2:20:56] the amount of work these

[2:20:56] farmers do to clear trees,

[2:20:57] brush off the roadway, you

[2:20:57] know, fire safety.

[2:21:01] So please put the same effort

[2:21:02] into getting our farmers leases

[2:21:02] done as we do the Safari park

[2:21:07] because I know they're all

[2:21:07] partners up there and we need

[2:21:08] to get it done.

[2:21:09] So I know you're working on it

[2:21:12] but the farmers are going to

[2:21:13] come down to City Hall to talk

[2:21:13] with us about it because we

[2:21:18] need to get their leases done

[2:21:19] So I know so I do have a

[2:21:22] question here about why this is

[2:21:23] under 710 because I believe it

[2:21:24] really needs to be controlled

[2:21:27] under 700 dash zero four And

[2:21:28] with that we don't need to be

[2:21:33] waiving anything in the motion

[2:21:33] .

[2:21:34] For example, the nutrien

[2:21:34] reported there's no appraisal

[2:21:35] here and we as a city have had

[2:21:38] passed real estate transactions

[2:21:39] where we've gotten in trouble

[2:21:40] for not having an appraisal

[2:21:40] such as the one to Ash Village

[2:21:41] across the street.

[2:21:45] However we do not charge rent

[2:21:46] for Bethel Park tenants that

[2:21:46] are non profits.

[2:21:50] We have decided to say do not

[2:21:50] do that.

[2:21:51] So the only reason we would

[2:21:51] invest in paying for an

[2:21:52] appraisal is if we were to set

[2:21:56] a price for rent or sale And so

[2:21:57] i want to make sure that that

[2:21:58] is the understanding.

[2:22:01] That's why we do not need an

[2:22:02] appraisal here because we're

[2:22:03] not charging rent or selling

[2:22:03] the property.

[2:22:04] That is correct.

[2:22:08] Councilmember Okay.

[2:22:09] Just solely focused on parking

[2:22:09] and we do not charge rent

[2:22:10] because it's double park

[2:22:13] correct?

[2:22:14] 704 So then why news whatever

[2:22:20] the city attorney why aren't we

[2:22:20] just implementing this under

[2:22:21] 700 dash and four?

[2:22:21] I don't think we as a council

[2:22:24] have to waive important

[2:22:25] provisions of seven dash ten

[2:22:26] such as market rate rent

[2:22:29] improvements in the property

[2:22:30] when 710 doesn't apply to this

[2:22:35] situation.

[2:22:40] And if you look at Section five

[2:22:41] or let a Roman numeral be of

[2:22:45] the disposition of city

[2:22:46] property if I lease under 700

[2:22:46] dash ten it states that if

[2:22:47] Section five of this policy

[2:22:51] conflicts with the more

[2:22:52] specific applicable accountable

[2:22:52] policy, the more specific

[2:22:55] council policy will control And

[2:23:01] that's 700 dash four Deputy

[2:23:02] City Attorney Julie Inman So

[2:23:08] the specific portions of County

[2:23:09] policy 710 that our way of

[2:23:13] solely apply to time extensions

[2:23:18] of leases and amendments that

[2:23:19] extend time and so one is a

[2:23:24] waiver of the requirement that

[2:23:25] the lease be updated to fair

[2:23:25] market value.

[2:23:26] And then the other is

[2:23:29] the requirement that the tenant

[2:23:30] propose capital improvements

[2:23:35] that justify the extension and

[2:23:36] those aspects weren't addressed

[2:23:42] in 700 dashboard and the long

[2:23:42] term extension of the lease

[2:23:43] wasn't addressed in Council

[2:23:46] policy 700 dash for So that's

[2:23:47] the reason why the waiver was

[2:23:51] included here.

[2:23:52] Councilmember If I MAY also

[2:23:56] just add for additional context

[2:23:57] in terms of this Council's

[2:23:58] policy that was updated last

[2:24:02] FEBRUARY a long term lease and

[2:24:06] disposition really is covered

[2:24:06] by 700 Dash ten And then in

[2:24:11] addition because it fell apart

[2:24:12] because it's the zoo that's

[2:24:13] the 704 So ensuring that we're

[2:24:17] covering our bases based on

[2:24:18] this council's direction we

[2:24:19] wouldn't want to run afoul

[2:24:19] associated with which one is

[2:24:23] governing But that both

[2:24:24] technically do apply and that

[2:24:24] we're being transparent about

[2:24:28] what we're asking you to do.

[2:24:29] I appreciate that As as an

[2:24:34] attorney I would disagree And

[2:24:35] the reason is I don't want

[2:24:36] the public to think that we are

[2:24:37] skirting our responsibility to

[2:24:40] get market rate when as it was

[2:24:41] never paying rent in the first

[2:24:41] place and that we are not

[2:24:45] giving the zoo a special deal

[2:24:46] that other city lessees would

[2:24:46] take.

[2:24:50] They've always been under

[2:24:51] the Balboa Park rules which

[2:24:51] means that these things don't

[2:24:55] have to be waived And I want

[2:24:56] the public to know we are

[2:24:57] holding them to the same

[2:24:57] account that we are holding

[2:24:58] every single other person in

[2:25:02] the ballpark And that's why I'm

[2:25:02] saying you should you

[2:25:03] understand how to for I will

[2:25:05] die on the field.

[2:25:06] But I want folks to know that

[2:25:07] this has always been the case.

[2:25:10] Plus the zoo has put in some

[2:25:11] Stansell revenue into improving

[2:25:16] the park, improving our city

[2:25:17] assets.

[2:25:17] I mean they put in tens of

[2:25:18] millions of dollars into

[2:25:22] infrastructure upgrades that

[2:25:23] they're not going to get credit

[2:25:23] for in this lease because they

[2:25:24] didn't need to because it

[2:25:25] wasn't under 700 said okay, I'm

[2:25:26] done being with my legal hat

[2:25:27] on.

[2:25:32] So my last point is just that

[2:25:33] the Teamsters are the ones who

[2:25:33] represent the zoo workers here

[2:25:37] and their fantastic There was a

[2:25:38] question about who are

[2:25:38] the workers.

[2:25:39] They're wonderful.

[2:25:40] I met with the Teamsters

[2:25:42] recently and I'm glad to see

[2:25:43] they've approved the latest

[2:25:43] collective bargaining agreement

[2:25:44] which is great because we have

[2:25:47] to invest in our workforce as

[2:25:48] well and that I'm glad we we're

[2:25:49] increasing our then Bob goals

[2:25:53] Here are your emissions goals

[2:25:54] and that we are putting in

[2:25:54] prevailing wage because this is

[2:25:55] every property So we're doing

[2:25:57] everything that we should be

[2:25:58] for the workers in this do in

[2:26:03] the park And because of that I

[2:26:04] will let it go on which council

[2:26:05] policy we need to be in because

[2:26:08] we're going to get to the same

[2:26:09] result Anyway, I just want to

[2:26:09] thank you very much for

[2:26:10] the work on this.

[2:26:14] I'm very, very excited to see

[2:26:15] the growth of the zoo and very

[2:26:15] excited for a partnership and I

[2:26:20] will support the motion today.

[2:26:20] Thank you.

[2:26:21] All right.

[2:26:21] Thank you Councilmember Bond

[2:26:22] Wolpert.

[2:26:23] We'll go next to council member

[2:26:25] Campo Thank you Council

[2:26:26] PRESIDENT Thank you to our city

[2:26:27] staff for their good work today

[2:26:27] and the presentation Do you

[2:26:30] have a question very specific

[2:26:30] question wasn't addressed in

[2:26:31] any of the slides but it's

[2:26:35] something that I know the zoo

[2:26:35] provides as a service.

[2:26:36] If there's someone from the zoo

[2:26:41] that's able to answer it I know

[2:26:44] that the zoo for roughly eight,

[2:26:45] maybe nine years has been

[2:26:46] supporting the Wounded Warrior

[2:26:49] organization that allows early

[2:26:50] access to the zoo for their

[2:26:50] physical fitness needs

[2:26:51] rehabilitation into their

[2:26:54] physical trainers.

[2:26:55] My hope is that this program

[2:26:55] continues without any

[2:26:56] additional impact to those

[2:27:00] participating.

[2:27:00] I know that now that there's

[2:27:01] charging at the parking lot

[2:27:05] that might be getting in

[2:27:06] the way.

[2:27:07] I see MR. Days at the at

[2:27:11] the microphone.

[2:27:12] MR. De Can you speak to whether

[2:27:12] that program is going to

[2:27:13] continue on beyond going and

[2:27:15] how you plan to continue to

[2:27:16] support those folks who've been

[2:27:19] wounded serving in our military

[2:27:20] ?

[2:27:20] Thank you, COUNCILMAN And

[2:27:21] through the council PRESIDENT

[2:27:22] Yes, we're proud of our

[2:27:22] partnership with wounded

[2:27:25] warriors.

[2:27:26] We we have to as you heard

[2:27:26] earlier, we provide free

[2:27:29] admission to active duty

[2:27:30] military roughly 130,000

[2:27:30] members per year And such a

[2:27:35] substantial benefit that we

[2:27:35] want to recognize our military

[2:27:36] And we're honored to work with

[2:27:37] the wounded warriors and and

[2:27:39] the sacrifices that they made.

[2:27:40] And so we look forward after

[2:27:41] today's action hopefully knock

[2:27:45] on wood and we're going to work

[2:27:45] very diligently with our with

[2:27:46] our donors, with our team

[2:27:48] members and with one way or

[2:27:49] another veteran groups to make

[2:27:50] sure we minimize or eliminate

[2:27:53] the impact of this change as

[2:27:54] soon as possible.

[2:27:54] Understood.

[2:27:55] I heard minimize or eliminate

[2:27:55] the impact.

[2:27:59] So I appreciate that that work.

[2:27:59] Thank you.

[2:28:00] I appreciate that.

[2:28:06] This item is before us Just to

[2:28:07] touch on it very briefly, I

[2:28:07] know that some members of

[2:28:08] the public have mentioned today

[2:28:12] about the charge for parking.

[2:28:12] Obviously I've been in support

[2:28:13] of free parking for all people

[2:28:16] and all of our ballparks since

[2:28:17] day one And I still support

[2:28:17] free parking today though that

[2:28:20] we are talking about something

[2:28:21] very different.

[2:28:21] I'm securing a portion of

[2:28:22] the revenue that's already

[2:28:26] being collected from visitors

[2:28:27] by the zoo is a reasonable step

[2:28:27] for the city right now And

[2:28:31] the zoo has long been one of

[2:28:31] our strongest strategic

[2:28:32] partners for our region and

[2:28:35] it's long provided enormously

[2:28:36] positive economic impact in

[2:28:36] terms of tens of thousands of

[2:28:41] jobs billions of dollars in

[2:28:41] secondary and tertiary impacts.

[2:28:46] So I'm confident that we're

[2:28:47] going to continue to work well

[2:28:47] together with the zoo to

[2:28:50] continue to serve the public

[2:28:51] And I appreciate that their

[2:28:52] mission is something that

[2:28:52] should be the mission of all of

[2:28:57] San Diego.

[2:28:58] So I will be in support of

[2:28:58] that.

[2:28:59] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[2:28:59] All right.

[2:29:00] Thank you.

[2:29:02] Council member Campo Not seeing

[2:29:03] anybody else in the lights.

[2:29:03] Thank you my colleagues for

[2:29:07] your questions and comments.

[2:29:08] Thank you.

[2:29:08] Council member Bong Wolpert a

[2:29:09] constant struggle to make sure

[2:29:11] all our council policies

[2:29:12] actually in a react and maybe

[2:29:13] we can do a little bit of

[2:29:16] cleanup at the next next

[2:29:21] opportunity but given the in

[2:29:21] the absence of caution or

[2:29:22] abundance of caution that's

[2:29:26] what I want to say.

[2:29:26] I think I appreciate why you

[2:29:27] did it but your points were

[2:29:28] well taken.

[2:29:30] You do have 700 hours before

[2:29:30] that also speaks to that

[2:29:31] ballpark in particular.

[2:29:34] So with that I don't see

[2:29:35] anybody else on the lights.

[2:29:36] We have a motion by council

[2:29:39] member Campbell and a second by

[2:29:39] myself.

[2:29:40] Clerk Please call the roll.

[2:29:40] Thank you.

[2:29:44] Started the voting system.

[2:29:45] I will also note that we did

[2:29:45] receive six speaker slips in

[2:29:48] favor here in council chambers

[2:29:49] with no need to speak and this

[2:29:50] item also received 20 comments

[2:29:51] in favor and two comments in

[2:29:53] Opposition via our e comment

[2:29:54] form which was distributed to

[2:29:58] the Council.

[2:30:01] This does pass unanimously 8 to

[2:30:02] 0 with Council member PRESIDENT

[2:30:06] Pro Tem Lee Absent Thank you

[2:30:07] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[2:30:08] Thank you again thank you to

[2:30:08] staff for the very good work in

[2:30:11] bringing this forward.

[2:30:12] So with that clerk please

[2:30:16] introduce item 4a1 animals for

[2:30:17] a one is the approval of an

[2:30:20] affordable housing cdbg loan

[2:30:20] agreement with Community

[2:30:21] Revitalization Development

[2:30:25] Corporation in an amount not to

[2:30:25] exceed $6,650,000 for

[2:30:26] the Promenade apartments

[2:30:30] Affordable Housing Project.

[2:30:31] If you'd like to speak on this

[2:30:32] item please be sure to submit a

[2:30:35] speaker slip to the front of

[2:30:35] the room and place it in

[2:30:36] the clear box If you are

[2:30:39] joining us virtually and would

[2:30:40] like to speak on this item

[2:30:41] please be sure to raise your

[2:30:43] hand by pressing Star nine or

[2:30:44] the raise your hand icon.

[2:30:44] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[2:30:45] right Thank you.

[2:30:48] I see staff is starting to

[2:30:49] settle in and when you are

[2:30:52] settled in introduce yourselves

[2:30:53] for the record and let us know

[2:30:53] how much time you need.

[2:30:57] Good afternoon Council

[2:30:58] PRESIDENT LaCava and honorable

[2:30:58] Council members.

[2:31:00] We will need approximately

[2:31:01] seven minutes for this

[2:31:01] presentation.

[2:31:02] All right, when you're ready.

[2:31:05] My name is Christine Marcella,

[2:31:06] deputy director with

[2:31:07] the Economic Development

[2:31:07] Department And with me is

[2:31:08] Monica Hartman, assistant

[2:31:10] director.

[2:31:11] And it's our pleasure to

[2:31:12] present the affordable housing

[2:31:12] cdbg loan agreement with

[2:31:15] Community Revitalization

[2:31:16] Development Corporation.

[2:31:20] Today we are requesting that

[2:31:21] the City Council approve

[2:31:21] the staff report actions

[2:31:22] summarized on this slide

[2:31:25] The actions include approval of

[2:31:26] the loan agreement with

[2:31:27] Community Revitalization

[2:31:30] Development Corporation or crtc

[2:31:31] authorizing the mayor to

[2:31:32] execute, administer and

[2:31:35] implement the loan agreement,

[2:31:36] authorize the transfer

[2:31:38] appropriation and expense of

[2:31:39] $6.65 million from

[2:31:43] the unobligated cdbg grant to

[2:31:44] the Promenade Apartments

[2:31:47] Project and authorizing

[2:31:48] the $25,000 developer deposit

[2:31:49] for city costs and loan

[2:31:49] repayments to be deposited to

[2:31:53] the low and moderate Income

[2:31:57] Housing Asset Fund or lmi f

[2:31:58] Before discussing the project

[2:31:59] I'll provide a brief summary of

[2:32:02] the Bridge to Home program.

[2:32:02] >> The Bridge to Home program

[2:32:03] has proven to be a valuable

[2:32:06] tool in allocating gap

[2:32:07] financing to assist in meeting

[2:32:08] critical affordable housing

[2:32:11] needs.

[2:32:12] Since 2021 the Economic

[2:32:12] Development Department has

[2:32:13] issued seven rounds of its

[2:32:17] bridge to Home Notice of

[2:32:17] funding availability with

[2:32:18] around seven applications due

[2:32:21] this APRIL sixth Rounds one

[2:32:22] through five have resulted in

[2:32:26] 22 approved loan agreements.

[2:32:26] One pending round for agreement

[2:32:27] will be brought for council

[2:32:30] consideration in MAY.

[2:32:31] There are three pending

[2:32:32] agreements from Round six with

[2:32:34] this agreement being the first

[2:32:35] to be brought before Council as

[2:32:36] this project is receiving cdbg

[2:32:39] funds that need to be expended

[2:32:43] for timeliness altogether these

[2:32:44] 26 funds will provide a total

[2:32:44] of nearly $123 million in

[2:32:48] affordable housing funding,

[2:32:52] creating 2528 total apartments

[2:32:52] including 2499 affordable

[2:32:56] rental homes of which 436 are

[2:32:56] permanent housing with

[2:33:00] supportive services.

[2:33:01] An informational presentation

[2:33:05] on the Bridge to Home Round six

[2:33:05] No.

[2:33:06] Four process was provided at

[2:33:06] the Economic Development and

[2:33:09] Intergovernmental Relations

[2:33:10] Committee meeting on DECEMBER

[2:33:14] 10th, 2025 and loans for four

[2:33:14] projects were recommended.

[2:33:15] One project has since been

[2:33:18] unable to move forward.

[2:33:19] The remaining three projects

[2:33:19] will create 391 affordable

[2:33:23] rental homes including 55

[2:33:24] permanent supporting housing

[2:33:24] supportive housing units.

[2:33:28] The Promenade Apartments is one

[2:33:29] of the three round six projects

[2:33:29] and the only project moving

[2:33:33] forward that was eligible to

[2:33:33] receive cdbg funds.

[2:33:37] Now we'll take a few moments to

[2:33:38] provide a brief description of

[2:33:38] the Promenade Apartments

[2:33:42] The project will be developed

[2:33:43] by the nonprofit Community

[2:33:44] Revitalization Development

[2:33:47] Corporation partnering with

[2:33:48] the Affordable Housing and

[2:33:48] Community Development.

[2:33:52] Crtc was established in 1991

[2:33:53] and has been involved in

[2:33:53] the development ownership and

[2:33:57] operation of over 10,000

[2:33:58] affordable housing units.

[2:34:02] >> cerp was established in 2019

[2:34:02] and its founders have owned,

[2:34:04] developed and managed over 2500

[2:34:09] affordable units.

[2:34:10] The project site is located at

[2:34:13] 3972 dash 86 and 3990 Cleveland

[2:34:14] Avenue in the uptown

[2:34:14] neighborhood within the state's

[2:34:18] highest resource area in

[2:34:19] Council District three.

[2:34:19] The site is located within a

[2:34:23] transit priority area and

[2:34:24] located in an area near

[2:34:24] grocery, retail, school,

[2:34:31] medical and park facilities.

[2:34:31] The proposed eight story new

[2:34:32] construction development will

[2:34:35] include 94 affordable one, two

[2:34:36] and three bedroom apartments

[2:34:38] for families earning between 30

[2:34:39] and 70% of the area median

[2:34:42] income and one manager's

[2:34:42] apartment.

[2:34:43] There will be 22 parking spaces

[2:34:46] despite the fact that no

[2:34:47] parking is required given its

[2:34:48] location in a transit priority

[2:34:48] area.

[2:34:51] The project will meet

[2:34:52] California energy standards and

[2:34:52] include solar panels and

[2:34:56] stormwater bio retention

[2:34:56] filtration.

[2:34:57] Amenities include a community

[2:35:01] space kitchen laundry, bike

[2:35:02] parking, a tot lot and play

[2:35:06] areas.

[2:35:07] >> The loan agreement will

[2:35:07] provide a $6.65 million cdbg

[2:35:11] loan for acquisition at a 3%

[2:35:14] simple interest rate with a 55

[2:35:15] year term to be repaid from

[2:35:15] residual receipts.

[2:35:18] The city will have 55 year

[2:35:19] affordability covenants on

[2:35:23] the 94 affordable apartments at

[2:35:23] 70%.

[2:35:24] Amy and the developer will be

[2:35:24] applying for other sources that

[2:35:28] will restrict lower units that

[2:35:29] will restrict unit that lower

[2:35:32] ami levels.

[2:35:33] >> These tables show

[2:35:36] the projected sources and uses

[2:35:37] the $6.65 million city loan

[2:35:40] provides approximately 70,000

[2:35:41] per unit and 36,000 per

[2:35:41] bedroom.

[2:35:45] When leveraged with multiple

[2:35:46] financing sources the total

[2:35:46] project cost is approximately

[2:35:47] 60.3 million.

[2:35:50] Please note that these sources

[2:35:51] and uses of funds are based on

[2:35:55] estimates and assumptions and

[2:35:55] will be finalized at closing

[2:35:56] once all financing sources are

[2:35:59] obtained.

[2:36:00] Now we will review

[2:36:01] the tentative schedule for

[2:36:04] the project.

[2:36:05] The developer has applied for

[2:36:05] tax credits with potential

[2:36:08] award in MAY 2026 and if

[2:36:12] successful construction could

[2:36:12] begin in the fourth quarter of

[2:36:13] 2026.

[2:36:13] The construction period is

[2:36:16] anticipated to be approximately

[2:36:16] 26 months.

[2:36:22] Staff recommends approval of

[2:36:22] the requested actions

[2:36:23] summarized here and

[2:36:23] representatives from

[2:36:24] the development team as well as

[2:36:26] city staff are available to

[2:36:27] respond to questions.

[2:36:27] This concludes our

[2:36:28] presentation.

[2:36:32] Thank you.

[2:36:32] All right.

[2:36:33] Thank you for your good work

[2:36:33] and the presentation this

[2:36:34] afternoon.

[2:36:36] Clerk please proceed with

[2:36:37] public comment.

[2:36:37] There are no speakers here in

[2:36:38] council chambers going to those

[2:36:41] participating remotely.

[2:36:42] There are four speakers who

[2:36:43] will have two minutes each

[2:36:45] starting with 8700 if you can

[2:36:48] please unmute after that is

[2:36:49] 88138 700.

[2:36:49] Thank you.

[2:36:55] Thank you Joyce and the other

[2:36:59] 394 affordable apartment.

[2:36:59] 30% to 70%.

[2:37:02] Am I123 bedroom apartments for

[2:37:03] families?

[2:37:08] That's great news.

[2:37:09] The 29 units are 3% pmi.

[2:37:12] 47 units are 50%.

[2:37:12] That's middle income.

[2:37:20] The total cost of the project

[2:37:21] is $60,311,000.

[2:37:25] Now I finally found this new

[2:37:30] per unit subsidy approach

[2:37:31] similarly 70,745 per unit.

[2:37:35] I'm not used to the word being

[2:37:36] put there with the per unit

[2:37:40] cost so I need to get clear on

[2:37:40] that.

[2:37:41] It's probably very clear that I

[2:37:42] just didn't get that word

[2:37:45] subsidy but that amount of per

[2:37:46] unit is pretty darn good.

[2:37:50] The developer is awaiting final

[2:37:51] decision for an award of tax

[2:37:55] credits on MAY in MAY of 2026.

[2:38:00] My fingers are crossed.

[2:38:01] Also we need to receive a hud

[2:38:05] hud's It's already to use

[2:38:06] the grant fund.

[2:38:07] I was a little afraid of that

[2:38:10] but I hope that's going to come

[2:38:11] easily in spite of what's

[2:38:14] happening with our housing

[2:38:14] situation.

[2:38:19] So this is a great item.

[2:38:19] Thank you.

[2:38:20] Thank you so much.

[2:38:21] Just love these projects for

[2:38:24] housing Coming through in our

[2:38:25] current environment So keep up

[2:38:26] the great work and love to all

[2:38:29] you.

[2:38:30] Yes to Round six allocation of

[2:38:34] cdbg funds.

[2:38:34] >> Thank you.

[2:38:35] 8813 If you can please unmute

[2:38:43] after that is blurred between

[2:38:43] the hi can you hear me?

[2:38:44] Yes please proceed.

[2:38:44] Okay got it.

[2:38:47] Okay console here.

[2:38:51] Yeah I just wanted to to

[2:38:52] confirm that this too is just

[2:38:57] another uh just another.

[2:39:01] Come on now.

[2:39:06] Another usually.

[2:39:06] Sorry, sorry.

[2:39:10] I'm grocery shopping.

[2:39:11] It's just another plan for

[2:39:16] the United Nations agenda for

[2:39:16] the 21st century.

[2:39:17] Just, you know, living in

[2:39:20] the stack packs.

[2:39:21] We got these things going up

[2:39:22] everywhere.

[2:39:26] That's all by design as well.

[2:39:26] They know people living in

[2:39:30] these little condensed cages.

[2:39:31] You don't, uh you don't have

[2:39:35] the uh the capacity capacity or

[2:39:36] the desire to want to question

[2:39:40] anything to want to go up

[2:39:41] against anything especially

[2:39:42] especially with the local

[2:39:45] government is doing and

[2:39:45] implementing and yeah all by

[2:39:46] design.

[2:39:50] So I didn't really get to

[2:39:50] listen to everything about this

[2:39:54] item but I just want to

[2:39:55] encourage the people listening

[2:39:56] in Please do your due diligence

[2:39:59] and look up the United Nations

[2:40:00] agenda for the 21st century

[2:40:01] because we are here and living

[2:40:05] in a fishbowl is a reality.

[2:40:06] You know we're not getting that

[2:40:10] to which are too much sugar and

[2:40:10] yet that's where we're at.

[2:40:13] So um yeah, that's pretty much

[2:40:19] all I have.

[2:40:19] Thank you.

[2:40:20] Next is Blair Beckmann.

[2:40:27] If you can please unmute.

[2:40:32] Blair Beckmann.

[2:40:42] Okay Please unmute Okay and

[2:40:42] cannot unmute for you.

[2:40:43] We will have to move on to

[2:40:47] the next caller as callers.

[2:40:52] Andrea mean if you can please

[2:40:55] unmute And for Andrea Ebbing I

[2:40:55] kind of neutral.

[2:40:56] I do believe we need housing.

[2:41:01] I wish I knew a bit more on

[2:41:01] like the back end and

[2:41:02] the developers and like who got

[2:41:05] the kickbacks and all that

[2:41:06] stuff but I wonder what how

[2:41:10] it's going to impact like trash

[2:41:10] fees for these multi family

[2:41:15] units and what that's going to

[2:41:15] look like.

[2:41:19] And I also found that on

[2:41:20] Transparent California somebody

[2:41:20] named Kenneth a Biggers

[2:41:24] District refuge collection

[2:41:24] supervisor had zero in regular

[2:41:28] pay but $146,000 and other pay

[2:41:29] and 18,000 in overtime And he

[2:41:33] made almost $300,000 with no

[2:41:33] salary.

[2:41:34] Kenneth, a Biggers district

[2:41:38] refused collection supervisor

[2:41:38] in 2024.

[2:41:38] Thank you.

[2:41:39] That's it.

[2:41:44] Thank you.

[2:41:45] And expose Lori Saldana If you

[2:41:46] can please unmute the five

[2:41:47] minute timer.

[2:41:47] Also concluded there were two

[2:41:48] speakers in the queue.

[2:41:49] No additional speakers will be

[2:41:52] taken.

[2:41:53] >> Laurie and John Stump as our

[2:41:53] final speaker.

[2:41:53] Please proceed.

[2:41:56] Yes thank you.

[2:41:56] MADAM City Clerk, could you

[2:41:57] please confirm what's showing

[2:42:01] on the screen for us to speak

[2:42:02] to which item it is that we are

[2:42:02] addressing?

[2:42:09] Sorry it is item as 401

[2:42:09] according to the screen that is

[2:42:14] the Zoological Society.

[2:42:15] My apologies it is items 401 we

[2:42:15] will bring it down but if you

[2:42:19] can please focus on the timer.

[2:42:20] My apologies Items for one is

[2:42:20] the approval of an affordable

[2:42:24] housing cdbg loan agreement

[2:42:25] with the Community Realization

[2:42:25] department.

[2:42:26] If you can make please make

[2:42:26] your comments to that.

[2:42:28] I apologize and we'll have that

[2:42:29] corrected.

[2:42:29] >> All right.

[2:42:29] Thank you.

[2:42:33] i appreciate any time

[2:42:34] Developers are willing to build

[2:42:37] affordable housing and take

[2:42:38] the step of doing so using tax

[2:42:39] credit programs.

[2:42:43] It is it is challenging as I

[2:42:43] learned when I chaired

[2:42:44] the Assembly Housing Committee,

[2:42:47] it is difficult to find

[2:42:48] developers who are in

[2:42:49] the position to do that type of

[2:42:52] a development and count on

[2:42:53] the credits coming forward and

[2:42:57] especially difficult given our

[2:42:58] current economic outlook both

[2:42:58] long term and short term.

[2:43:02] So we desperately need housing.

[2:43:06] I would prefer that we free up

[2:43:07] housing that is currently being

[2:43:08] used for short term rentals.

[2:43:11] I think that in addition to

[2:43:12] building housing and affordable

[2:43:12] housing we also need to make

[2:43:16] sure every house that was

[2:43:17] approved under my committee and

[2:43:18] subsequent committees as part

[2:43:21] of our regional housing needs

[2:43:22] assessment is being used for

[2:43:23] regional housing and not for

[2:43:27] temporary re hotel types of

[2:43:27] lodging.

[2:43:31] So I speak strongly in support.

[2:43:32] I appreciate the developer for

[2:43:32] taking this position.

[2:43:36] I hope that all federal funds

[2:43:36] and tax credits continue to

[2:43:40] support this type of

[2:43:41] development and I encourage

[2:43:42] the city to do its part and

[2:43:45] make sure that every housing

[2:43:46] unit that's been built with

[2:43:50] the understanding it would be

[2:43:50] affordable or that it would

[2:43:51] simply be available for

[2:43:54] permanent residential use is in

[2:43:55] fact being used for that

[2:43:55] purpose because as it stands

[2:43:56] now we know that is not

[2:44:00] the case and we will never

[2:44:00] catch up with our housing need

[2:44:03] Despite the good work of

[2:44:04] developers such as this one.

[2:44:04] If you don't also enforce

[2:44:09] permanent housing as you add

[2:44:13] more units whether it's a use

[2:44:14] or other housing that's being

[2:44:18] pushed forward if those are not

[2:44:19] inspected regularly to ensure

[2:44:19] that they are being used for

[2:44:23] full time housing projects like

[2:44:24] this are admirable but they

[2:44:28] will never close the gap that

[2:44:29] we need for addressing

[2:44:29] homelessness in San Diego.

[2:44:33] Thank you.

[2:44:34] >> Thank you.

[2:44:35] Our final speaker is John

[2:44:35] Stump.

[2:44:39] If you can please unmute again

[2:44:40] this is let him ask for a one

[2:44:40] approval the affordable

[2:44:41] housing.

[2:44:41] >> Please proceed.

[2:44:43] Like to follow Laurie so danger

[2:44:44] because she picks up stuff that

[2:44:48] I wanted to say and of course

[2:44:52] it's showing the Zoom lease

[2:44:53] still and we understand little

[2:44:57] mistakes happen So my questions

[2:45:01] on this are dealing with

[2:45:02] climate change and particularly

[2:45:07] symbolic Is this project going

[2:45:11] to be a zombie project?

[2:45:12] And secondly I hope there's no

[2:45:16] parking being provided If this

[2:45:21] is a project it should be

[2:45:22] transit oriented and the way to

[2:45:26] make sure people use transit is

[2:45:26] not to provide subsidized

[2:45:30] parking.

[2:45:31] So I hope this project does not

[2:45:35] include subsidized parking is

[2:45:40] totally Zumba and the workers

[2:45:44] at the housing project you know

[2:45:45] the janitors, the manager etc.

[2:45:50] All meet or exceed the city's

[2:45:50] wage standards.

[2:45:54] Thank you.

[2:45:55] Thank you.

[2:45:55] Thank you again for pointing

[2:45:56] that out.

[2:45:56] We will be sure to triple check

[2:45:59] our slides next time and that

[2:46:00] does conclude public comment on

[2:46:01] this item.

[2:46:01] All right.

[2:46:04] Thank you MADAM City Clerk.

[2:46:05] And with that we will go to

[2:46:06] the council member representing

[2:46:06] District three where

[2:46:09] the projects located Council

[2:46:10] member Whitburn Thank you

[2:46:10] Council PRESIDENT Big thank you

[2:46:14] to the team for all the work on

[2:46:15] this project.

[2:46:15] This housing is going to be

[2:46:19] close to grocery stores.

[2:46:20] It'll be close to schools right

[2:46:24] up the street from transit a

[2:46:25] block away from the incoming

[2:46:25] Pride promenade The project's

[2:46:29] going to add to 94 truly

[2:46:30] affordable homes and that

[2:46:33] includes a great mix of 33 one

[2:46:37] bedrooms, 33 two bedrooms, 23

[2:46:38] bedrooms that will allow for

[2:46:42] families of all sizes with all

[2:46:42] kinds of great amenities right

[2:46:43] in the area there.

[2:46:47] So again, thank you for this

[2:46:48] and I will make the motion to

[2:46:48] approve the staff

[2:46:49] recommendation.

[2:46:49] All right.

[2:46:53] Thank you, gentlemen.

[2:46:53] So we have that motion to move.

[2:46:54] The staff recommendation will

[2:46:55] go next to council member

[2:46:57] Campbell.

[2:46:58] Thank you and thank you for

[2:47:01] the presentation for all

[2:47:02] the hard work on this.

[2:47:03] I am really excited about this

[2:47:03] project.

[2:47:06] It adds a great beautiful

[2:47:07] building to an area that is

[2:47:11] just alive with promise and

[2:47:16] will provide a great deal of a

[2:47:16] great deal of cultural and

[2:47:20] cultural availability to those

[2:47:21] who move in to there And I'm

[2:47:22] sure they will add to

[2:47:26] the neighborhood as well.

[2:47:26] And so I'm quite excited and

[2:47:27] happy to second this motion.

[2:47:30] Thank you.

[2:47:31] >> All right.

[2:47:32] Thank you, Council member

[2:47:32] Campbell.

[2:47:33] So we have a motion by Council

[2:47:36] member Whitburn, a second by

[2:47:36] Council member Campbell to move

[2:47:37] the staff recommendation.

[2:47:40] We'll go next to Council member

[2:47:41] Eli Rivera.

[2:47:41] All right.

[2:47:42] Thank you so much Council

[2:47:42] PRESIDENT.

[2:47:45] Thanks for the presentation and

[2:47:46] all the work on this.

[2:47:46] I definitely appreciate

[2:47:50] the comments made by COUNCILMAN

[2:47:51] Whitburn.

[2:47:51] The mix of bedrooms I think is

[2:47:52] fantastic.

[2:47:55] That's a really, really good

[2:47:55] sign.

[2:47:56] The three bedrooms in

[2:48:00] particular we're seen I think a

[2:48:01] little bit more often now and I

[2:48:02] think that's a product of

[2:48:05] asking to see that a little bit

[2:48:05] more often.

[2:48:06] So thank you for doing the work

[2:48:10] to make sure that that happens.

[2:48:11] I did want to take a moment to

[2:48:15] acknowledge COUNCILMAN Weprin

[2:48:15] actually for you know obviously

[2:48:16] you've been supportive of

[2:48:19] housing since you got here.

[2:48:20] I ride through your district on

[2:48:23] the way to work on a regular

[2:48:28] basis and the amount of housing

[2:48:32] that District three is is is

[2:48:33] absorbing bringing online in

[2:48:37] Hillcrest in particular is

[2:48:38] pretty astounding And I know

[2:48:42] that doesn't come I know that

[2:48:42] the while many neighbors

[2:48:43] welcome it others don't and i

[2:48:47] appreciate you staying

[2:48:47] committed to that effort

[2:48:48] because I mean there are

[2:48:52] thousands more homes for folks

[2:48:53] in in the community as a result

[2:48:57] of that And as you said,

[2:48:57] transit oriented.

[2:49:01] We've invested a lot in making

[2:49:02] walking and biking more

[2:49:06] accessible in the community as

[2:49:12] well And parking fees are twice

[2:49:12] the 23 spots.

[2:49:16] So some 22 sorry.

[2:49:19] So there's some but not one per

[2:49:20] unit and folks will know that

[2:49:24] as they have the opportunity to

[2:49:24] to move in there.

[2:49:25] I did have one question and if

[2:49:29] I missed this I apologize.

[2:49:30] I see the subsidy per unit

[2:49:30] which I appreciate We're below

[2:49:31] that hundred thousand dollar

[2:49:34] guidance threshold Do the cost

[2:49:35] per bedroom I know you all

[2:49:35] started doing that.

[2:49:38] I might have just again missed

[2:49:38] it.

[2:49:41] The total cost per apartment is

[2:49:42] 635,000 and the total cost per

[2:49:46] bedroom is 326,000.

[2:49:46] Thank you.

[2:49:47] And again I think that's super

[2:49:50] important to to note because so

[2:49:51] often in critiquing the way

[2:49:56] the city is is subsidizing and

[2:49:56] investing in housing, all homes

[2:50:00] are treated the same and all

[2:50:01] homes are not the same.

[2:50:02] Those three bedroom homes are

[2:50:05] going to, you know, have 4 or 5

[2:50:05] folks living in them.

[2:50:06] So when you break that down on

[2:50:10] a per person basis, we're

[2:50:11] getting an even even more bang

[2:50:11] for our buck.

[2:50:15] So this is excellent use of

[2:50:16] the resources in my estimation.

[2:50:20] Again, thank you to staff for

[2:50:21] the work on this and thank you

[2:50:22] Council member Brant Thank you

[2:50:22] Got the resident All right

[2:50:25] Thank you Council member Rivera

[2:50:26] And we'll go next to Council

[2:50:26] member Hemphill Thank you

[2:50:27] Council PRESIDENT Thank you

[2:50:29] staff for your work on this.

[2:50:30] I want to call attention to

[2:50:31] the fact that these are these

[2:50:34] units will be built within a

[2:50:35] state of California designated

[2:50:36] highest resource area As folks

[2:50:38] have heard me speak on numerous

[2:50:39] occasions about affirmatively

[2:50:40] furthering fair housing,

[2:50:43] getting rent restricted units

[2:50:44] that will be guaranteed

[2:50:44] affordable with the depth of

[2:50:48] affordability that this shows

[2:50:49] in our highest resource area is

[2:50:49] particularly difficult.

[2:50:53] I know that the staff report

[2:50:54] doesn't necessarily have a

[2:50:58] subheading that says how does

[2:50:58] this affirmatively for for

[2:50:59] housing maybe in the future

[2:50:59] will go in that direction?

[2:51:02] I know I've asked for that and

[2:51:03] other types of things but I

[2:51:04] just wanted to point that out

[2:51:05] because that continues to be a

[2:51:08] very high priority for me

[2:51:09] something that we need to do

[2:51:09] and are legally obligated to do

[2:51:13] So thank you for putting this

[2:51:14] through At the second question

[2:51:14] actually the first question I

[2:51:18] have for you is is this a

[2:51:18] project that received quote

[2:51:23] unquote bonus points or extra

[2:51:24] consideration for the fact that

[2:51:24] it's in highest resource or are

[2:51:27] we not yet implementing that

[2:51:28] just quite yet?

[2:51:28] I know you've said you're going

[2:51:29] to but I'm wondering if this is

[2:51:32] one of those projects this is

[2:51:32] one of those projects Round six

[2:51:33] was the start of where we began

[2:51:34] to award bonus points for

[2:51:37] moderate, high and highest

[2:51:38] resourced area projects And

[2:51:39] this is one of those projects

[2:51:41] understood.

[2:51:42] Well thank you very much for

[2:51:42] that.

[2:51:46] As I look through the rest of

[2:51:47] this, I just I do appreciate

[2:51:47] that it has a depth of

[2:51:50] affordability of 30 to 70%.

[2:51:51] Am I that is that is hard to

[2:51:52] get in a highest resource area

[2:51:55] So thank you for your good work

[2:51:56] on this.

[2:51:56] I will be in support.

[2:51:57] All right.

[2:51:57] Thank you Councilmember Campo.

[2:52:01] Not see anybody else and lights

[2:52:01] off or a couple of comments.

[2:52:02] Councilmember Whitburn, you

[2:52:03] failed to mention that it is

[2:52:05] across the street from the dmv

[2:52:06] So that's just a bonus for

[2:52:09] those folks.

[2:52:10] On a more serious note, I know

[2:52:11] we have big plans to revitalize

[2:52:14] that property and it's big

[2:52:15] parking lots.

[2:52:15] Thank you for the presentation.

[2:52:19] The good work that you do

[2:52:20] consistently in managing this

[2:52:20] process, evaluating

[2:52:23] the proposals that come in and

[2:52:24] and the strict adherence to

[2:52:25] the guidelines in picking

[2:52:28] the project that come forward.

[2:52:28] There were a couple of things

[2:52:29] that were mentioned by

[2:52:33] the public that I want to touch

[2:52:33] on.

[2:52:34] One it was not included in

[2:52:39] the presentation but I do want

[2:52:39] to mention that it is

[2:52:40] incorporating sustainable

[2:52:43] development features including

[2:52:43] rooftop solar energy efficient

[2:52:44] lighting and all electric

[2:52:48] energy star rating appliances.

[2:52:49] Then Bob does not apply to

[2:52:49] private projects like this.

[2:52:52] It applies to city buildings

[2:52:53] and city owned property But

[2:52:57] clearly they are actually even

[2:52:58] exceeding the standard that we

[2:53:02] would be able to impose on them

[2:53:03] .

[2:53:04] So I want to make note of that.

[2:53:04] There was also some sort of

[2:53:08] implication that on the arena

[2:53:08] numbers I think we're doing

[2:53:09] fine with above moderate

[2:53:13] housing in meeting our

[2:53:13] obligations.

[2:53:14] This of course is more of our

[2:53:18] below market housing.

[2:53:18] If anybody has any idea that

[2:53:23] any any property that is under

[2:53:23] contract for affordability is

[2:53:27] not using it for housing please

[2:53:27] like my office?

[2:53:28] No, I think all the council

[2:53:31] would want to know about that.

[2:53:32] So I don't want there to be any

[2:53:33] confusion out there above

[2:53:36] moderate That's a different

[2:53:37] conversation we don't seem to

[2:53:37] have again any challenge

[2:53:41] meeting arena numbers for above

[2:53:41] moderate But that's not what

[2:53:46] we're talking about here So I

[2:53:46] know it's a complicated

[2:53:47] process.

[2:53:47] The capital stack is for

[2:53:50] something that is so desperate

[2:53:51] it continues to be a challenge

[2:53:52] but we do our part moving it

[2:53:55] forward So I will be in support

[2:53:55] as well.

[2:53:56] And as a reminder we have a

[2:53:59] motion by Councilmember

[2:53:59] Whitburn, the second by

[2:54:00] Councilmember Campbell.

[2:54:04] Clerk Please call the roll I'm

[2:54:04] sorry the voting system Please

[2:54:08] cast your vote and that passes

[2:54:09] unanimously 8 to 0 with Council

[2:54:09] PRESIDENT Pro tem be absent.

[2:54:10] Thank you.

[2:54:13] Council PRESIDENT All right

[2:54:14] Thank you And again thank you

[2:54:15] Everybody ready That brings

[2:54:18] these items forward to us.

[2:54:18] With that we will now take up

[2:54:19] non agenda public comment

[2:54:23] Council members respect and

[2:54:23] appreciate the public input and

[2:54:24] are fully committed to

[2:54:25] protecting every participant's

[2:54:27] free speech rights at council

[2:54:28] and committee meetings.

[2:54:29] Clerk Please proceed with

[2:54:29] public comment.

[2:54:29] Thank you.

[2:54:32] Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 On

[2:54:33] the agenda Public comment is an

[2:54:34] opportunity for members of

[2:54:36] the public to comment on items

[2:54:37] that are not on the agenda but

[2:54:38] within the subject matter

[2:54:41] jurisdiction of the City

[2:54:42] Council.

[2:54:42] Each speaker will have two

[2:54:43] minutes.

[2:54:43] Please note if there are more

[2:54:46] speakers on a single topic

[2:54:47] the maximum time for the topic

[2:54:47] will be 16 minutes.

[2:54:48] If you are in chambers please

[2:54:50] email your speakers up to

[2:54:51] the front of the room.

[2:54:52] If you are joining us virtually

[2:54:52] please raise your hand to speak

[2:54:55] by tapping the Raise your hand

[2:54:56] icon or if you're calling

[2:54:57] Participant Star nine If I can

[2:55:00] have Mary Soriano please come

[2:55:00] forward You will have two

[2:55:01] minutes for your non agenda

[2:55:10] public comment Mary Serrano,

[2:55:10] PRESIDENT Of La Hoya Town

[2:55:14] Council trying to get ahead of

[2:55:14] tomorrow night La Hoya Town

[2:55:19] Council sent out the mayor's

[2:55:19] resident budget survey

[2:55:23] the response and consistent

[2:55:24] response from the community is

[2:55:28] that the survey focused on

[2:55:29] the city eliminating services

[2:55:34] It isn't what people want to

[2:55:34] hear.

[2:55:38] Maintenance cuts, public

[2:55:39] restrooms reduced maintenance

[2:55:43] is susceptible to drugs and

[2:55:48] homeless youth health and

[2:55:48] safety risk disease

[2:55:53] transmission, fecal matter

[2:55:53] toilet people running out of

[2:55:58] essential hygiene supplies with

[2:55:58] washing hands, toilet paper

[2:56:02] etc..

[2:56:03] Next item Infrastructure cip

[2:56:07] funding gap of 12.8 billion in

[2:56:12] need If the percentage of funds

[2:56:17] needed for high priority is met

[2:56:17] Clarity is appreciated in some

[2:56:18] of these areas.

[2:56:22] Storm water Does this take care

[2:56:26] of every neighborhood street

[2:56:27] and roads Pavement Is this

[2:56:31] concrete or slurry feel?

[2:56:32] How are the streets selected

[2:56:36] bikes Facilities 88.6 million.

[2:56:41] I'm sure you all have heard

[2:56:42] questioning on the bike lanes

[2:56:45] that don't seem to justify

[2:56:46] the expense last year to

[2:56:51] the amount of users Bike lanes

[2:56:51] on Convoy Street has been a

[2:56:56] discussion among stranger is in

[2:56:56] line for their favorite eatery.

[2:57:00] Strangers in line can't

[2:57:01] understand why parking spaces

[2:57:06] were taken away for bike lanes

[2:57:10] in cop in convoy Thank you.

[2:57:10] Thank you.

[2:57:11] That does conclude our public

[2:57:12] knowledge and a public common

[2:57:15] hearing Council chambers so I

[2:57:15] will be going to those

[2:57:16] participating remotely.

[2:57:19] Five minute timer has been

[2:57:19] placed.

[2:57:20] We have 12 speakers in

[2:57:20] the queue.

[2:57:24] Blair Beckman if you can please

[2:57:24] unmute.

[2:57:24] >> All right.

[2:57:25] Fred Beckman can you hear me

[2:57:26] this time?

[2:57:28] Yes we can.

[2:57:29] Please proceed.

[2:57:29] Yeah I had a problem with my

[2:57:30] zoom all day today.

[2:57:33] I couldn't for public comment.

[2:57:33] I'm really sorry.

[2:57:34] Thank you for taking my public

[2:57:38] comment at this time.

[2:57:39] I wish you could have come back

[2:57:39] around for me previously but

[2:57:40] thank you for the meeting

[2:57:40] today.

[2:57:42] Informative.

[2:57:43] I think it's been a pretty

[2:57:44] tough weekend for all of us.

[2:57:47] We're learning the events of us

[2:57:48] continual war at this time and

[2:57:52] how we have to be thinking

[2:57:53] around subject matter.

[2:57:57] I think it's really important

[2:57:58] that the work we be doing at

[2:57:58] the local level we continue our

[2:58:02] good efforts.

[2:58:02] I think we really know how to

[2:58:03] talk about peace to create

[2:58:07] peace and sustainable liberty

[2:58:08] at the local level and those

[2:58:11] good examples that you know,

[2:58:12] our national and international

[2:58:13] level needs from us right now

[2:58:16] they need to see best

[2:58:17] practices.

[2:58:17] They need to see what we do

[2:58:21] well and what is our good

[2:58:22] thinking and not our fearful

[2:58:22] thinking because war is making

[2:58:26] it fearful and scared.

[2:58:27] We need to be strong and go go

[2:58:31] for our best practices and not

[2:58:32] cower to questionable war

[2:58:36] practices that the National

[2:58:37] international level I'm upset

[2:58:41] is the work at

[2:58:41] the international level is

[2:58:42] doing a lot.

[2:58:45] It's quite an upheaval but I

[2:58:46] just think the overall efforts

[2:58:46] of international war is very

[2:58:50] aggravating and frustrating and

[2:58:50] I like working towards

[2:58:54] negotiation to solve our issues

[2:58:55] and yet we've got negotiation

[2:58:55] and best practices we do here

[2:58:59] at the local level that means

[2:58:59] we have to coordinate well

[2:59:00] between us and that we're on

[2:59:01] the same page together.

[2:59:04] I think that was the important

[2:59:05] lesson with the Climate Report

[2:59:08] today We have to better learn

[2:59:09] how to be accessible and public

[2:59:10] and learning to work together

[2:59:13] like that.

[2:59:14] The zoological memo itself

[2:59:18] actually offers word about how

[2:59:19] parking revenue can be used

[2:59:19] initially towards general fund

[2:59:23] items.

[2:59:23] So council person LaCava really

[2:59:24] has to rethink his words and

[2:59:27] belittling the public.

[2:59:28] >> Also we have to work

[2:59:28] together not separately.

[2:59:29] Thank you.

[2:59:31] Your time has concluded.

[2:59:32] Barbara Gordon If you can

[2:59:37] please unmute after that will

[2:59:38] be Lori Saldana Please proceed.

[2:59:41] >> Barbara Thank you.

[2:59:41] Good afternoon.

[2:59:42] I'm a public health advocate

[2:59:46] and I urge you to recognize

[2:59:47] the commercialization of high

[2:59:51] potency thc has produced a rise

[2:59:52] in addiction poisoning

[2:59:56] cardiovascular disease,

[2:59:56] emergency rooms, traffic

[3:00:00] fatalities, serious side

[3:00:01] psychiatric harms especially

[3:00:01] among youth.

[3:00:08] In 2000 2426 of 12th graders

[3:00:09] and 16% of 10th graders

[3:00:13] reported past marijuana use.

[3:00:14] 5% of those high school seniors

[3:00:18] used their drug daily placing

[3:00:19] them at a higher risk for

[3:00:19] addiction claims that

[3:00:23] dispensaries keep marijuana

[3:00:24] away from teens rings hollow in

[3:00:28] light of the persistent high

[3:00:32] level of use If teens can't buy

[3:00:33] marijuana legally, how do they

[3:00:33] obtain it?

[3:00:37] About 65% of 12th graders

[3:00:37] reported that marijuana is easy

[3:00:42] or very easy to get.

[3:00:42] Cannabis use disorder is

[3:00:46] neither rare nor benign

[3:00:47] according to the National

[3:00:48] Survey on Drug Use and help

[3:00:52] prevalence of cannabis use

[3:00:52] disorder among adolescents and

[3:00:56] young adults is almost 60%.

[3:01:01] States with marijuana laws have

[3:01:02] historically shown higher teen

[3:01:02] use reflect reflecting

[3:01:06] the normalization and

[3:01:06] widespread available in social

[3:01:07] networks.

[3:01:11] I urge the city to take more

[3:01:11] aggressive action to limit

[3:01:15] the number of storefronts and

[3:01:16] exposure of advertising and

[3:01:16] marketing of marijuana by

[3:01:20] prohibiting billboards

[3:01:21] marijuana images on any signage

[3:01:25] and fortunately that numerous

[3:01:26] marijuana predators and policy

[3:01:30] makers that pursue profits at

[3:01:35] the expense of public health

[3:01:35] actively undermine any

[3:01:36] prevention efforts.

[3:01:40] Thank you for letting me speak

[3:01:40] .

[3:01:40] Thank you.

[3:01:44] Lori Saldana.

[3:01:45] >> Good afternoon again.

[3:01:49] So 40 years ago there was a

[3:01:50] public art project that

[3:01:54] plastered city busses and

[3:01:54] billboards with images and

[3:01:58] the text that San Diego is

[3:01:59] America's finest tourist

[3:01:59] plantation.

[3:02:03] And you can imagine city

[3:02:04] leaders were outraged that

[3:02:04] public money had gone to state

[3:02:08] what those of us who have lived

[3:02:08] here for decades grew up here,

[3:02:12] have known all our lives.

[3:02:13] San Diego relies heavily on

[3:02:17] hospitality and tourism dollars

[3:02:18] and unfortunately it is now to

[3:02:18] the detriment of people who

[3:02:21] want to buy homes or rent homes

[3:02:22] in San Diego.

[3:02:23] So when the regional housing

[3:02:26] needs assessment is brought up

[3:02:26] ,it is not looking

[3:02:27] prospectively or even currently

[3:02:31] it is looking backwards at what

[3:02:32] was promised for housing going

[3:02:35] back decades And what we have

[3:02:36] today.

[3:02:36] We have housing for visitors

[3:02:41] and we don't have enough

[3:02:41] housing for full time

[3:02:42] residents.

[3:02:42] And the people who are hardest

[3:02:45] hit are those who are working

[3:02:46] in hospitality service and

[3:02:50] other low wage seasonal jobs.

[3:02:50] So I wanted to bring that

[3:02:51] forward as a reminder that

[3:02:54] the committee that should be

[3:02:55] looking at this the community

[3:02:56] neighborhoods and community

[3:03:00] committee has failed completely

[3:03:00] in looking at how this

[3:03:05] ordinance that was passed a few

[3:03:05] years ago is operating.

[3:03:06] They've held informational

[3:03:07] hearings but have never done an

[3:03:10] investigation and it is harming

[3:03:10] people all over the city of San

[3:03:14] Diego.

[3:03:15] So I want to encourage in this

[3:03:16] as we approach our summer

[3:03:19] season that everyone on

[3:03:20] the council look at how many

[3:03:20] people come here.

[3:03:24] How many people take housing

[3:03:24] away from full time residents

[3:03:28] in order to enjoy our beautiful

[3:03:29] climate And how being America's

[3:03:33] finest tourist plantation is

[3:03:34] causing us to sink into

[3:03:38] financial ruin in cases such as

[3:03:38] the recent budget hole that

[3:03:39] we're in.

[3:03:42] Housing is fundamental.

[3:03:43] It's a human right.

[3:03:47] It's necessary for basic health

[3:03:48] .

[3:03:48] And if we don't provide it our

[3:03:49] city will be sicker for it.

[3:03:49] Thank you.

[3:03:51] Your time is concluded.

[3:03:52] Ernie Casco if you can please

[3:03:57] unmute.

[3:03:57] Yes.

[3:03:58] Ernie Casco here La Hoya

[3:04:02] resident.

[3:04:02] Time to stop the crime at

[3:04:03] Torrey Pines Glider Park.

[3:04:06] I should not be forced to buy

[3:04:07] insurance.

[3:04:08] Not required by law and sign an

[3:04:11] illegal access pass and waiver

[3:04:12] to use a free public park when

[3:04:12] city liabilities are already

[3:04:15] covered by California

[3:04:16] recreational laws.

[3:04:17] This is an insurance waiver

[3:04:20] fraud and misappropriation of

[3:04:21] public funding going into

[3:04:22] private account.

[3:04:25] It is well documented on your

[3:04:26] desk and demands a full

[3:04:29] transparent city artist that

[3:04:30] would end the corruption within

[3:04:31] your own administration.

[3:04:35] We have a petition Black speech

[3:04:35] recreational scandal to stop

[3:04:36] the illegal commercialization

[3:04:40] and privatization of San Diego

[3:04:41] parks with hundreds of

[3:04:41] signatures demanding

[3:04:42] authorities take action.

[3:04:45] We have unanimous letter of

[3:04:45] support from the town council

[3:04:49] La Hoya Shores Association to

[3:04:49] reconvene permanently

[3:04:50] the Torrey Pines Advisory Board

[3:04:54] as needed for public safety and

[3:04:55] oversight at Torrey Pines

[3:04:55] Glider Airport.

[3:04:58] Tomorrow, MARCH 10th

[3:04:58] the University Community

[3:05:02] Planning Group is taking an

[3:05:03] action item to write a letter

[3:05:04] to council members and

[3:05:07] the mayor's office and Park

[3:05:08] Recreation Department to end

[3:05:13] this dispute on the proposed

[3:05:13] San Diego recreational waiver

[3:05:17] Does that ends the dispute stop

[3:05:18] city legal city leasehold

[3:05:18] leaseholder illegal collection

[3:05:22] of public funding into private

[3:05:22] accounts and separating by

[3:05:23] separating the business from

[3:05:27] free public access to the San

[3:05:28] Diego recreational waiver

[3:05:29] isolates safety concerns Secure

[3:05:32] city liabilities restores

[3:05:33] recreational freedoms back to

[3:05:37] normal and addresses the victim

[3:05:38] and witnesses who have been

[3:05:39] damaged and assaulted within a

[3:05:39] timely fashion.

[3:05:42] It's a win for city council

[3:05:43] liabilities, restores

[3:05:43] recreational rights and

[3:05:47] freedoms for years to come.

[3:05:48] It's the best decision City

[3:05:48] Council and you could make Joe

[3:05:51] LaCava Thank you.

[3:05:56] >> Next speaker is 8700 if you

[3:05:56] can please unmute after that is

[3:05:57] Jonathan Yep.

[3:06:03] He's 8700.

[3:06:04] But thank you Joyce And now

[3:06:07] the cd three here is my short

[3:06:08] list of words that stood out to

[3:06:11] me recently eight items Council

[3:06:14] member Foster The third is

[3:06:15] words.

[3:06:20] I come from a place of love.

[3:06:24] Blair Bateman's words on peace

[3:06:24] .

[3:06:25] Chief Information Officer

[3:06:29] Banksy's words about a I spill

[3:06:29] erosion.

[3:06:34] He also said must have humans

[3:06:34] in the loop.

[3:06:38] Councilmember Campbell's words

[3:06:39] about how little we get from

[3:06:44] property taxes Director Elise

[3:06:48] Lowe's Keen words on system

[3:06:49] improvements Councilmember Ido

[3:06:53] Rivera's words What city are we

[3:06:54] trying to be?

[3:06:58] Director Tim Desmond's words

[3:06:59] All of her words on race and

[3:06:59] equity.

[3:07:04] More to come in the future and

[3:07:04] I'll try to fit this in.

[3:07:08] I MAY not.

[3:07:08] I googled Is Mexico involved

[3:07:13] with the Colorado River water

[3:07:14] deal or is it only New Mexico?

[3:07:14] And I was shocked.

[3:07:18] Google came back and I can't

[3:07:19] speak on it thoroughly because

[3:07:24] it's huge and it's complicated.

[3:07:28] So to be said later the water

[3:07:29] deal that was missed on

[3:07:31] Valentine's Day that was

[3:07:32] the second MISS OCTOBER 26th It

[3:07:33] is going to collapse if it's

[3:07:36] not signed and the federal

[3:07:37] government has a plan waiting

[3:07:41] in the wings to take over.

[3:07:42] So please keep an eye on this.

[3:07:46] But to all.

[3:07:46] Thank you.

[3:07:47] Next is Jonathan If you can

[3:07:47] please unmute.

[3:07:51] After that is Kathleen Lippert

[3:07:51] .

[3:07:52] Hello, my name is Jonathan and

[3:07:55] I'm here to talk about a lack

[3:07:56] of quality electronic waste

[3:07:57] resources for residents in San

[3:08:00] Diego.

[3:08:01] So due to the prevalence of

[3:08:01] planned obsolescence which has

[3:08:05] led to major increases in

[3:08:06] e-waste, the city I believe has

[3:08:07] to do a better job of informing

[3:08:10] residents e-waste is growing

[3:08:10] five times faster than

[3:08:14] documented e-waste recycling

[3:08:15] and it's reaching a projected

[3:08:18] 82 million tons about 2030.

[3:08:19] So it is a growing issue.

[3:08:20] Currently in San Diego there

[3:08:23] are multiple nonprofit and

[3:08:24] third party organizations that

[3:08:28] offer free e-waste drop off and

[3:08:29] pick up services like Urban

[3:08:30] Corpse and Waste And there's a

[3:08:32] few more.

[3:08:33] And then there's companies like

[3:08:33] tech companies like Best Buy

[3:08:34] that have comprehensive

[3:08:38] electronic record cycling

[3:08:39] programs and even ucsd and sdc.

[3:08:42] You have drop off locations

[3:08:43] available but the only facility

[3:08:43] that is run through the city of

[3:08:47] San Diego is the Miramar

[3:08:47] Household Hazardous Waste

[3:08:51] Transfer Facility which is by

[3:08:52] appointment only and it's only

[3:08:53] open on Saturdays with limited

[3:08:57] hours.

[3:08:58] And even worse it doesn't even

[3:08:58] accept waste.

[3:09:02] So I think that this is a major

[3:09:02] issue.

[3:09:06] This is an issue and then

[3:09:06] furthermore in the city of San

[3:09:07] Diego is what goes where GOD

[3:09:10] that is distributed.

[3:09:11] There is a lack of information

[3:09:15] on the actual harms of improper

[3:09:16] disposal of hazardous materials

[3:09:16] like e-waste.

[3:09:20] And then additionally the only

[3:09:21] way that the guide advertises

[3:09:22] is to dispose of waste in San

[3:09:25] Diego is to take it to that

[3:09:25] Miramar h.

[3:09:26] H w transfer facility which I

[3:09:27] mentioned before.

[3:09:30] It does not even accept e-waste

[3:09:30] and there's no alternative

[3:09:35] option that is offered So I do

[3:09:36] suggest that this be worked on.

[3:09:36] Thank you for your time.

[3:09:37] Thank you.

[3:09:39] Next is Kathleen Lippert.

[3:09:43] >> If you can please unmute.

[3:09:44] >> Thank you.

[3:09:44] Good afternoon Council.

[3:09:48] My name is Kathleen Lippert.

[3:09:49] Wall Street Journal had an

[3:09:49] article that highlighted

[3:09:53] the challenges high schools are

[3:09:54] facing today from the use of

[3:09:57] high potency thc vape pens.

[3:09:58] They're easy to hide and often

[3:09:59] used in bathrooms or during

[3:09:59] class.

[3:10:02] Legalize ation and surprising

[3:10:03] social acceptance has made

[3:10:07] marijuana more accessible to

[3:10:07] teens overwhelming schools

[3:10:08] ability to discipline and

[3:10:12] detect.

[3:10:13] The administrators say

[3:10:13] the problem is growing faster

[3:10:17] than they can respond.

[3:10:18] And legalization in states like

[3:10:22] California have made marijuana

[3:10:23] easier for teens to access more

[3:10:23] socially acceptable and harder

[3:10:27] for schools to police.

[3:10:27] >> Students are vaping in

[3:10:28] bathrooms, hallways and

[3:10:32] sometimes even during class.

[3:10:33] They've detectors are being

[3:10:37] installed but students often

[3:10:37] find ways around them.

[3:10:38] >> Administrators report

[3:10:42] constant alerts and frequent

[3:10:42] bathroom space sweeps.

[3:10:43] And students try to avoid

[3:10:47] school bathrooms often because

[3:10:48] they want they would rather

[3:10:51] wait till they leave school to

[3:10:52] be able to use a bathroom that

[3:10:52] is not filled with marijuana.

[3:10:56] Studies that create a

[3:10:56] commercial marijuana footprint

[3:10:57] resulted in increased

[3:11:01] availability and reduced stigma

[3:11:01] .

[3:11:02] And while schools are doing

[3:11:02] their best to protect students,

[3:11:06] cities like San Diego are

[3:11:07] making the jobs of schools and

[3:11:11] parents unnecessarily difficult

[3:11:11] .

[3:11:12] I like to know what the city of

[3:11:13] San Diego is doing to partner

[3:11:16] with these with parents and

[3:11:17] with schools because it appears

[3:11:21] that the city is policies are

[3:11:21] doing the opposite.

[3:11:26] They wilill continue schools will

[3:11:26] continue to lose ground despite

[3:11:30] technology and stricter

[3:11:30] monitoring and the combination

[3:11:35] of legal legalization, high

[3:11:35] potency products and discrete

[3:11:36] vaping devices.

[3:11:40] >> Challenge traditional

[3:11:44] schools The very same industry

[3:11:45] that claims they do not want to

[3:11:46] target students is the same

[3:11:49] industry that your concluding

[3:11:49] comment.

[3:11:52] Next is 8813 and then Madison

[3:11:58] plays a new okay console here

[3:12:03] and I'm definitely coming from

[3:12:03] a place of love.

[3:12:07] So let's say I wanted to focus

[3:12:08] on how things have been done

[3:12:12] incrementally step by step so

[3:12:13] people don't slowly so people

[3:12:17] slowly submit and consent to

[3:12:18] everything being built around

[3:12:22] them all presented as if it for

[3:12:23] our benefit while quietly

[3:12:23] leading to our own demise.

[3:12:27] The other agenda for the 21st

[3:12:28] century didn't disappear

[3:12:28] overnight.

[3:12:32] It has been layered and piece

[3:12:33] It has been layered and piece

[3:12:33] by piece.

[3:12:37] From cameras in our skies to

[3:12:37] homelessness to in our streets

[3:12:41] the decline of human health and

[3:12:42] the erosion of the human spirit

[3:12:42] from endless wars to inflation

[3:12:46] squeezing families every

[3:12:47] pressure point pushing people

[3:12:51] closer to exhaustion and defeat

[3:12:52] And now the climate crisis

[3:12:55] narrative They continue using

[3:12:56] to influence people for decades

[3:13:01] to see shoreline that the lines

[3:13:01] have not increased.

[3:13:02] Many coastal photos have half a

[3:13:06] century from half a century

[3:13:07] years ago have shown the exact

[3:13:07] same levels.

[3:13:11] Yet the fear messaging

[3:13:11] continues because when people

[3:13:15] are afraid they're easier to

[3:13:16] control.

[3:13:16] All of that contributes to

[3:13:17] the people feeling defeated And

[3:13:20] when people feel defeated they

[3:13:21] stop resisting.

[3:13:21] This is the oldest strategy

[3:13:25] there is divide and conquer,

[3:13:26] create the crisis, amplify

[3:13:30] the chaos and then present

[3:13:30] the solution.

[3:13:31] Order out of chaos.

[3:13:31] And while people are busy

[3:13:35] fighting each other, struggling

[3:13:36] to survive and just trying to

[3:13:39] keep their heads above water,

[3:13:40] the system of control quietly

[3:13:40] expands.

[3:13:44] None of this is random.

[3:13:45] The real question is not

[3:13:45] whether we can see it.

[3:13:49] The real question is what we

[3:13:49] choose to do.

[3:13:54] Once we know and yeah again

[3:13:59] there's a lot of people who are

[3:14:00] concerned not being paid.

[3:14:04] Call it voluntary call it We

[3:14:04] are the volunteers.

[3:14:05] >> We are the work of putting

[3:14:09] our Mark Madison if you can

[3:14:09] please on mute after Madison is

[3:14:10] John Stump.

[3:14:13] Please proceed.

[3:14:13] All right.

[3:14:14] Thank you.

[3:14:14] Good afternoon.

[3:14:18] Much of the public conversation

[3:14:18] about marijuana focuses on

[3:14:23] short term intoxication but

[3:14:23] emerging research shows that

[3:14:24] thc behaves very differently

[3:14:28] from substances like alcohol.

[3:14:28] Alcohol is processed and

[3:14:33] cleared from the body within

[3:14:33] hours.

[3:14:34] Thc the main psychoactive

[3:14:37] compound in cannabis

[3:14:38] accumulates in the body's fat

[3:14:42] and organs including the brain

[3:14:43] and liver and can be slowly

[3:14:43] released back into

[3:14:47] the bloodstream long after

[3:14:48] the immediate high has faded

[3:14:49] According to physicians and

[3:14:52] toxicology researchers.

[3:14:52] Thc spreads quickly into

[3:14:56] tissues throughout the body

[3:14:57] rather than remaining in

[3:14:58] the bloodstream where it can be

[3:14:58] easily measured.

[3:15:01] This means that even when a

[3:15:02] drug test appears negative thc

[3:15:06] and its biological effects MAY

[3:15:06] still be present in body

[3:15:07] tissues.

[3:15:08] This matters even more today

[3:15:11] because cannabis products

[3:15:12] available now are dramatically

[3:15:15] stronger than those used in

[3:15:16] the past.

[3:15:16] Modern oils, vape cartridges

[3:15:21] and edibles can contain 10 to

[3:15:24] 20 times more thc than products

[3:15:25] from the 70s and 80s.

[3:15:26] At the same time, daily use has

[3:15:30] become increasingly common.

[3:15:30] As a result, many people are

[3:15:34] repeatedly exposing their

[3:15:35] bodies to high levels of thc

[3:15:36] that do not leave the body

[3:15:39] quickly.

[3:15:39] Researchers are also learning

[3:15:40] that thc can affect the immune

[3:15:44] system and inflammation

[3:15:44] throughout the body when

[3:15:45] the immune system remains

[3:15:49] activated for long periods of

[3:15:49] time instead of returning to

[3:15:50] arresting state it can increase

[3:15:53] long term risks for conditions

[3:15:54] such as heart disease and

[3:15:58] metabolic problems.

[3:15:58] These findings remind us that

[3:15:59] cannabis is not a harmless

[3:16:02] lifestyle product.

[3:16:03] As thc potency rises and

[3:16:03] frequent use is more normalized

[3:16:07] we are only beginning to

[3:16:07] understand the long term health

[3:16:11] consequences of a substance

[3:16:12] that can persist in the body

[3:16:13] for weeks or even months.

[3:16:13] Thank you.

[3:16:16] Thank you, John.

[3:16:22] Oh, I don't mean to We're going

[3:16:23] to lose quorum here so we'll

[3:16:26] take that managing the public

[3:16:27] comment at the beginning of

[3:16:30] tomorrow morning's session

[3:16:31] along with the regular non

[3:16:32] agenda public comment at

[3:16:35] the end of the morning session

[3:16:36] .

[3:16:36] My apologies Please keep your

[3:16:37] hands raised.

[3:16:37] I will make sure to make note

[3:16:41] for tomorrow's meeting to give

[3:16:41] preference as well.

[3:16:42] So real quickly does the city

[3:16:43] attorney have anything to

[3:16:45] report out from close session?

[3:16:46] There is nothing to report.

[3:16:46] Thank you.

[3:16:46] Okay.

[3:16:47] We will now adjourn council to

[3:16:50] the regularly scheduled council

[3:16:50] meeting on Tuesday MARCH 10th,

[3:16:51] 2026 at 10 A.M..

[3:16:52] Again my apologize to those who

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