[8:46] and

[9:56] the.

[9:56] >> All right.

[9:57] Good morning.

[9:57] I will now call the city

[10:00] council meeting of Tuesday

[10:01] APRIL 14th, 2026 to order.

[10:05] Clerk please call the roll.

[10:06] Thank you.

[10:06] Council PRESIDENT Council

[10:07] Member Campbell here.

[10:10] Council Councilmember Whitburn

[10:11] here.

[10:11] Council Member Foster here.

[10:16] Councilmember Von Wilpert

[10:17] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[10:17] here.

[10:18] Councilmember Campo here

[10:21] Council Oliver Moreno.

[10:21] Council Member Eli Rivera and

[10:25] Council PRESIDENT LaCava

[10:25] present.

[10:26] Thank you.

[10:26] Also attending the meeting our

[10:27] chief deputy city attorney

[10:31] Breitbart a lot of independent

[10:31] budget analyst Charles Mollica,

[10:32] Council Affairs Advisor in

[10:33] the Mayor's office Code advisor

[10:35] and myself your city clerk

[10:35] Diana Fuentes.

[10:35] Thank you.

[10:36] Council PRESIDENT.

[10:36] All right.

[10:37] Thank you.

[10:37] With that a quorum is now

[10:39] present.

[10:40] We will begin this morning with

[10:41] the land acknowledgment and

[10:41] the Pledge of Allegiance led by

[11:01] council member Campbell.

[11:06] We respectfully acknowledge

[11:07] that the community nation are

[11:11] the original inhabitants of

[11:12] the Unceded land now known as

[11:12] San Diego.

[11:16] Despite enduring the horrors of

[11:17] genocide and colonization,

[11:17] the community spirit remains

[11:21] unbroken.

[11:22] We honor the resilience of

[11:22] their ancestors who fought to

[11:26] protect their culture and land.

[11:26] Today they carry their legacy

[11:31] forward ensuring that their

[11:32] traditions continue to thrive

[11:33] in gratitude and strength.

[11:37] We stand with the commune

[11:37] nation connected to our past

[11:41] and committed to a thriving

[11:42] future.

[11:42] Please place your hand over

[11:46] your heart and repeat

[11:52] the Pledge of Allegiance to

[11:52] the flag which changes to

[11:56] the flag of the United States

[11:56] of America and to the Republic

[12:00] for which it stands one nation

[12:00] under GOD, indivisible with

[12:07] liberty and justice for all.

[12:08] >> Clerk Please go over how

[12:12] the public can offer their

[12:13] testimony.

[12:13] >> Thank you.

[12:14] I'll now highlight the slide on

[12:15] the screen that reviews how

[12:17] the public can offer their

[12:17] public testimony during today's

[12:18] meeting.

[12:18] Please note the time

[12:19] allocations for proclamations

[12:23] and consent items for meeting

[12:23] management purposes are one

[12:26] minute per item to a maximum of

[12:27] three minutes.

[12:27] If there are three or more

[12:28] items in that portion of

[12:28] the agenda.

[12:31] The order can be found on

[12:32] the agenda Summary found online

[12:32] or at the table in the back of

[12:36] the room.

[12:37] If you are in person please

[12:37] complete a speaker slip located

[12:38] at the entrance of chambers and

[12:42] bring it to the front of

[12:42] the room in the clear box.

[12:43] Council ambassadors are

[12:43] available near the entrance and

[12:47] can assist with questions and

[12:47] speaker slips.

[12:48] No further in-person testimony

[12:48] will be taken once the council

[12:51] begins Virtual testimony.

[12:52] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

[12:52] Thank you.

[12:53] We will now dispense with

[12:56] the approval of

[12:56] the proclamation items.

[12:57] Clerk Please proceed with

[12:57] public testimony.

[13:01] The public comment period for

[13:02] the proclamation items is now

[13:02] open.

[13:03] Each speaker will have one

[13:06] minute per item per person.

[13:07] If you would like to speak on

[13:08] three or more items you will

[13:08] have a maximum of three

[13:08] minutes.

[13:12] The proclamation items being

[13:15] approved are items 3332 as 501

[13:16] as s 500 as 504 and se 505.

[13:22] We did receive comments on item

[13:22] 31 opposed and one in favor via

[13:26] our comment form which have

[13:27] been distributed to

[13:27] the council.

[13:28] We do have quite a number of

[13:32] speakers here starting with

[13:32] Doris Petar Doris.

[13:33] You have time ceded to you if

[13:38] they can please raise their

[13:38] hand.

[13:39] Jamal Conch Thank you.

[13:42] Sayid Jonas Thank you.

[13:43] Omar Abdel Shawn Nadia Swanson.

[13:47] Michael Corey.

[13:47] Jim Roush.

[13:53] Were you in all tie all day And

[13:57] Amar Kadam.

[13:57] Thank you.

[13:58] You'll have ten minutes.

[13:59] Please proceed when ready.

[14:02] Okay.

[14:02] I'm sorry.

[14:03] You can go to the higher

[14:08] microphone right next to you.

[14:09] Right next to you to the right

[14:12] that have that microphone there

[14:12] .

[14:13] You just step over there.

[14:14] Oh, I'm sorry.

[14:15] I'm sorry.

[14:21] I'll just take this one.

[14:22] >> Thank you.

[14:22] Before I begin before the clock

[14:26] starts, I just want to really

[14:26] extend an incredible thank you

[14:27] to the council PRESIDENT Joe

[14:32] LaCava for making this such a

[14:33] smooth transition for us to be

[14:33] here today.

[14:37] And I want to thank Sandy much

[14:38] especially.

[14:38] Thank you.

[14:43] So my name is Dorothy Tarr.

[14:43] I am the California coordinator

[14:47] organizer for the American-Arab

[14:48] Anti-Discrimination Committee.

[14:52] This presentation brings in

[14:53] many other kinds of

[14:53] organizations as well And it's

[14:58] a long time in coming.

[14:58] So thank you.

[15:03] So the first slide shows us

[15:03] the Arab world at night.

[15:04] And this is where it is right

[15:04] now.

[15:08] It is night time.

[15:09] And this is also how we think

[15:10] about it as Arab Americans.

[15:13] We are uniquely uniquely suited

[15:14] suited whether we immigrated

[15:19] recently or from long ago to

[15:20] become full Americans

[15:20] contributing in leadership

[15:24] roles.

[15:25] And you'll see that as

[15:28] the presentation goes on.

[15:34] >> So who are Arab Americans?

[15:35] We are united by language,

[15:35] culture and history.

[15:39] Next slide.

[15:44] We are also from 22 countries.

[15:49] And in the light of day you can

[15:50] see that And these countries

[15:50] each one although we are united

[15:54] by language and culture, we

[15:55] also united by difference.

[16:00] We celebrate difference and

[16:00] uniqueness.

[16:01] Every country is different.

[16:02] Every village, every town.

[16:08] Next slide please.

[16:09] >> The American-Arab

[16:10] Anti-Discrimination Committee

[16:14] was created by Senator James

[16:15] Abbott risk in 1980.

[16:19] He was senator of South Dakota

[16:19] and he penned the Indian Child

[16:20] Protection Act.

[16:24] You know, when Native Americans

[16:25] were being put into orphanages

[16:30] against their wills and put up

[16:31] for adoption and trying to

[16:35] diminish their culture, he was

[16:36] the one who stood for them

[16:36] After that he decided

[16:40] Arab-Americans needed more

[16:41] protection.

[16:42] He's a Lebanese American and he

[16:46] created the adc which was a

[16:46] committee initially in

[16:48] Washington D.C..

[16:54] Next slide please.

[16:55] We've been here a long time.

[16:55] In the 1500s the first Arabs

[17:00] were slaves from Arab countries

[17:01] brought by Spanish explorers.

[17:04] The first large wave were

[17:08] largely Christians from Greater

[17:12] Syria 1875 to 1920 1942 1990s

[17:13] when my family immigrated from

[17:17] Lebanon, a second wave of Arab

[17:18] immigrants mainly Muslims

[17:18] immigrated for economic

[17:19] opportunities.

[17:23] My family was Christian doesn't

[17:23] matter but we came here for

[17:28] economic opportunities.

[17:29] 2000 To the present many Arab

[17:29] Americans have come to

[17:30] the United States as refugees

[17:34] because of war.

[17:34] Thank you.

[17:35] If I can explain.

[17:38] About 3.7 million Americans

[17:39] trace their roots to Arab

[17:42] countries with 82% born in

[17:43] the United States.

[17:43] California has the largest

[17:48] community and Southern

[17:48] California is the largest

[17:49] population.

[17:50] Los Angeles has the largest

[17:53] number of Arab-Americans and

[17:54] San Diego is a second or third

[17:54] to that.

[17:59] Five out of ten Arab Americans

[18:00] have a bachelor's degree or

[18:00] higher.

[18:04] Over 20% of Arab Americans have

[18:04] a postgraduate degree.

[18:08] Almost double the national

[18:09] average of 12.

[18:09] Our incomes are 26% higher than

[18:13] the national average.

[18:13] Next please.

[18:14] Stereotypes versus reality.

[18:18] I just want to say that

[18:19] basically minorities in

[18:20] the Arab world are considered

[18:24] to be the glue that binds

[18:25] the cultures together and

[18:25] allows for trust and innovation

[18:30] to proceed.

[18:31] Here are two pictures One of

[18:36] Palestinian Jews Samaritans

[18:37] You've heard of the good

[18:37] Samaritans in Nablus

[18:37] celebrating.

[18:42] So could.

[18:43] And then on the right side,

[18:46] Egyptian Christian communities

[18:47] about 14%, half of whom are

[18:47] Coptic.

[18:48] So the others are Orthodox

[18:52] Russian Orthodox, Greek

[18:52] Orthodox Protestant all

[18:53] the rest.

[18:57] Next slide please.

[18:58] Stereotypes versus reality.

[19:03] There's a lot to read here so

[19:04] I'll just pick out a few

[19:04] things.

[19:09] Basically the Arab culture

[19:09] created the modern world we

[19:10] take for granted now including

[19:10] finances, banking.

[19:14] Other things are tariffs made

[19:15] very famous recently Astronomy,

[19:20] math grafting and ice cream.

[19:20] Iraq had the highest success

[19:26] rate for heart lung transplants

[19:27] even though it leads for heart

[19:27] transplants in children.

[19:28] So before the wars they had

[19:32] that.

[19:32] The L.A. Metro was engineered

[19:33] by Arab Americans.

[19:37] Here in California as well as

[19:38] back home because Egypt and

[19:44] Iraq have very similar terrain.

[19:44] So it's engineered by Arabs

[19:48] fully from back home in here.

[19:49] What else?

[19:50] There's a lot more to say.

[19:54] We're very accomplished people

[19:54] .

[19:55] Sustainable environmental

[20:01] discussions began in the 1950s,

[20:01] for example, even though it's

[20:02] very trendy now the Arab world

[20:06] has been engaged in that for

[20:07] many, many decades.

[20:07] Okay, next slide please.

[20:12] I'm not going to get into Arab

[20:12] architecture.

[20:13] I'm an artist so I can go here

[20:14] and we could talk for an hour

[20:14] just about these two pictures.

[20:18] But granted these two pictures

[20:19] symbolize a place that is for

[20:23] worship for many peoples

[20:24] Shiite, Muslim, Christian,

[20:25] Orthodox and Jewish and

[20:30] Neolithic as well.

[20:31] I want to go back that far.

[20:32] That's in Damascus in my

[20:32] mosque.

[20:35] Stereotypes versus reality.

[20:36] Arab women have slightly more

[20:42] education than Arab men in

[20:43] the United States and in Arab

[20:43] countries.

[20:47] And oh sorry.

[20:48] Okay.

[20:48] The first university in

[20:53] the world was created by Muslim

[20:54] woman born in Tunisia and

[20:54] created the university in Fez,

[20:55] Morocco.

[20:59] And the university exists

[21:00] today.

[21:00] If you look up though,

[21:04] the first university you only

[21:05] get one in Europe.

[21:08] But the first one was 320 years

[21:09] before that or 230 years before

[21:09] that.

[21:15] I don't know why Uncle Sam is

[21:19] missing there in the middle of

[21:20] three divas of the Arab world

[21:21] Just to show you the diversity

[21:21] on the left side is Suleiman

[21:25] Mourad an Iraqi Jewish woman

[21:26] from consumers in the center

[21:26] center.

[21:31] She's kind of the goddess but

[21:32] she's not showing up for some

[21:32] reason She's Egyptian, Muslim

[21:37] and Fairouz Lebanese Christian

[21:38] who is still alive today.

[21:38] The lower picture is

[21:43] the cartoon University in

[21:44] Morocco And then the Astrolabe

[21:44] navigational instrument was

[21:49] created by Miriam Astrolabe, a

[21:50] Syrian Muslim woman.

[21:50] Okay.

[21:55] Next slide.

[21:56] This is the one somber slide a

[22:01] lot of discrimination has

[22:01] happened to the Arab-American

[22:02] community, particularly

[22:03] Palestinians and particularly

[22:08] in California, a liberal state

[22:12] from the past 1985.

[22:13] There were several bombings

[22:13] throughout the country.

[22:17] One of them killed Alex ota.

[22:18] He was assassinated in Santa

[22:19] Ana in 1985.

[22:19] A very good man.

[22:24] He opened up his office.

[22:25] It blew up and he was just

[22:26] about to go to a breakfast with

[22:30] rabbis very he was an educator

[22:31] and he had three daughters that

[22:34] he left behind the eight a year

[22:35] later that was an issue that

[22:36] went on for 20 years where

[22:41] the U.S. Government used

[22:41] McCarthy era legislation to

[22:42] harass them.

[22:46] It took 20 years to resolve.

[22:46] Of course they won.

[22:47] They won the case and the adc

[22:51] was among the people who helped

[22:51] them.

[22:52] The adc the American-Arab

[22:53] Anti-Discrimination Committee

[22:57] is a legal organization Today

[22:58] the Irvine 11 preceded

[22:58] the encampments and they were

[23:04] persecuted for a very long time

[23:08] and still are over ten years

[23:08] ago.

[23:09] We currently have lawsuits

[23:14] against the state of

[23:15] California, ucla, uc Irvine and

[23:20] ucsd to try to rectify

[23:20] the wrongs that were done

[23:21] recently.

[23:21] Also there are blacklists

[23:26] the canary mission I'm an

[23:27] academic.

[23:27] I taught for 30 years and I'm

[23:28] on this list for saying

[23:32] something nuanced about

[23:33] Lebanon, GOD forbid.

[23:34] So this list has largely harms

[23:38] young people just graduating.

[23:39] Basically this list put it puts

[23:45] a target on our back like the a

[23:46] that you passed a few weeks ago

[23:47] that puts a target on our back

[23:48] And we are collecting hate

[23:51] incidents and crimes since then

[23:56] and California legislation 80

[23:57] 715 is going to limit

[24:02] discussions like we're having

[24:03] right now This presentation MAY

[24:04] be forbidden in the future and

[24:04] that was signed by Governor

[24:08] Newsom.

[24:09] A lot going on in California.

[24:09] Please pay attention.

[24:10] Next slide please.

[24:14] Arab-Americans built City

[24:15] Heights and Balboa Park.

[24:15] They came as Masons.

[24:20] They married Mexican women and

[24:21] they have they have Mexican

[24:21] culture.

[24:22] But Arab surnames like

[24:27] the Hadad Construction Company

[24:27] you can look it up next one.

[24:32] >> But that's outrageous your

[24:33] time allotted.

[24:33] Do you have anyone else

[24:34] soliciting your time?

[24:38] Oh my goodness.

[24:38] I took two.

[24:43] Well, can I just get to one

[24:43] last slide?

[24:43] I'm sorry.

[24:44] Okay.

[24:44] There.

[24:48] And the waffle cone we created

[24:49] the waffle cone.

[24:49] That's a good outdoor I mean in

[24:50] 1904.

[24:54] Thank you so much.

[24:55] Thank you so much.

[24:56] Your slides will be a part of

[24:56] the record as well and

[24:57] distributed.

[24:57] Thank you.

[25:00] This is part of our sensitivity

[25:01] training as well and we'll

[25:02] follow up with all the council

[25:02] people.

[25:07] Thank you.

[25:08] Our next speaker is Sara about

[25:08] this Sara if you have time

[25:13] ceded to you by Maddy or my day

[25:14] I commit to you.

[25:14] Please raise your hand.

[25:15] Thank you.

[25:15] You'll have two minutes.

[25:18] Please proceed.

[25:19] So everyone And that is Good

[25:24] morning in Arabic My name is

[25:25] set up as I'm going to read off

[25:30] of my phone out here.

[25:30] My name says it all.

[25:36] It's As for Syrian air a b as

[25:36] Arab you have it set up.

[25:41] I am honored to be an Arab

[25:41] American.

[25:42] I have called San Diego my home

[25:45] for the past 27 years.

[25:46] When I joined uc San Diego I

[25:51] was longing for my community

[25:52] but I didn't find it so I

[25:57] decided to build it.

[25:58] In 2023 I helped establish

[25:59] the Arab American staff and

[26:04] faculty Association a safe

[26:04] space on campus to highlight

[26:09] and promote our rich culture

[26:10] That includes art, music, dance

[26:15] language, traditional clothing

[26:16] and cuisine.

[26:22] We worked with our university

[26:22] leadership to recognize APRIL

[26:28] as Arab American Heritage Month

[26:28] and we have our own event

[26:29] happening on Thursday, APRIL

[26:29] 16th.

[26:34] Everyone is invited.

[26:35] As an Arab American I proudly

[26:40] carry my culture wherever I go.

[26:41] Shukran.

[26:41] Thank you very much.

[26:42] Thank you.

[26:47] Your final speaker here in

[26:48] council chambers is Kimberly

[26:48] Balancing Lee.

[26:49] Kimberly, you have time ceded

[26:53] to you and you're speaking on

[26:54] item 505 by aacta.

[27:01] All right.

[27:02] Are you seating time a or

[27:02] Judah?

[27:03] No.

[27:05] Maybe that's not you, Kimberly

[27:05] Valencia but after people your

[27:10] time Joanne Johnson thank you

[27:15] and Gail Kelly aren't all right

[27:15] thank you.

[27:16] Maybe you can help me with who

[27:21] air Oh my apologies.

[27:21] Angela Hilliard, you will have

[27:22] four minutes.

[27:27] Please come up to the mic and

[27:27] proceed.

[27:28] Good morning.

[27:28] Honorable Council PRESIDENT,

[27:29] council members and

[27:33] distinguished guest.

[27:34] My name is Kim Ballantine Lane

[27:34] and I'm the PRESIDENT Of

[27:35] the San Diego chapter of

[27:35] the Links Inc..

[27:39] It is an honor to stand before

[27:40] you and accept this

[27:44] proclamation a proclamation

[27:44] recognizing the 40th

[27:45] anniversary of our Links

[27:45] Achiever program.

[27:49] We are deeply grateful for this

[27:49] recognition and for your

[27:50] commitment to investing in

[27:51] the future of the community.

[27:54] The links incorporated was

[27:55] founded in 1946 rooted in a

[27:56] commitment to friendship,

[28:01] service and transformative

[28:02] impact in the communities we

[28:02] serve.

[28:03] The San Diego chapter chartered

[28:06] in 1957 has carried that

[28:07] mission forward serving this

[28:08] community with purpose, passion

[28:13] and dedication for nearly seven

[28:13] decades.

[28:14] For 40 years the Achiever

[28:14] program has stood as a beacon

[28:18] of excellence, uplifting

[28:19] mentoring and preparing young

[28:19] men to succeed not only

[28:24] academically but as leaders in

[28:24] our society.

[28:25] This program was built with

[28:29] intention and it was made

[28:30] possible by two visionary women

[28:31] who are present with us today

[28:35] MRS. Peaches Wynn and MRS.

[28:35] Mildred Neal.

[28:36] They believed in the power of

[28:42] early exposure, strong

[28:42] mentorship and high

[28:43] expectations because of their

[28:43] vision.

[28:44] Hundreds of young men have been

[28:47] equipped to pursue higher

[28:48] education, lead in their

[28:48] communities and step

[28:49] confidently in their futures.

[28:53] That is the legacy that you are

[28:54] recognizing today.

[28:54] And what makes this moment even

[28:58] more meaningful is that this

[28:58] work continues through

[29:04] the dedication of our members,

[29:05] our tri chairs and mentors in

[29:10] our community partners.

[29:11] We remain committed to

[29:11] elevating, engaging and

[29:12] enhancing the lives of young

[29:16] men we serve.

[29:17] We are not just celebrating for

[29:18] years.

[29:18] We are continuing a legacy that

[29:22] is actively shaping the future

[29:23] of San Diego.

[29:24] To the Council.

[29:24] City Council.

[29:30] Thank you for recognizing

[29:31] importance of this work and for

[29:32] honoring the legacy of Peaches

[29:32] Wynn and Milton Leal.

[29:34] Their vision lives on in every

[29:35] achievement every opportunity

[29:36] created in every future

[29:36] transformed.

[29:41] And a special thank you to

[29:42] Councilmember Henry Foster,

[29:42] the third.

[29:46] Very near and dear to our heart

[29:47] because of your engagement of

[29:47] participation with this program

[29:48] as well.

[29:53] Thank you.

[29:54] That does include public

[29:54] comment here in council

[29:55] chambers and going to those

[29:56] participating remotely.

[30:00] I've started the five minute

[30:00] queue starting with

[30:01] the original If you can please

[30:01] let me know.

[30:02] And let me know which item or

[30:05] items you wish to speak to.

[30:05] >> Yes.

[30:08] i don't know the exact number

[30:09] simply 131 is the Heritage

[30:10] Month the dispatchers and then

[30:15] the military child.

[30:16] Please proceed.

[30:16] All right.

[30:17] With the history month I feel

[30:21] like it's quite a slap in

[30:22] the face for you guys to bring

[30:22] forward that I'm sorry item for

[30:28] antisemitism when Arabs are

[30:29] Semites and there's many other

[30:29] Semites that aren't under

[30:33] the protections of that same

[30:34] ordinance law and whatever it

[30:34] is policy.

[30:39] And it's scary to think about

[30:40] because those are the type of

[30:40] people that are actually going

[30:41] to be punished for speaking And

[30:45] you know, you want to sit up

[30:46] here and give them a

[30:46] proclamation.

[30:47] But I mean is that just to

[30:51] smooth over the fact that

[30:51] you're not including them, that

[30:52] you're actually discriminating

[30:57] against them by taking those

[30:58] actions that you recently have

[30:59] And with this assembly bill

[31:02] that you the woman was speaking

[31:03] about?

[31:04] It's pretty disgraceful that

[31:04] you guys are, you know, virtue

[31:09] signaling and like gaslighting

[31:10] these people as though you care

[31:11] about them when if you did you

[31:11] would include all of them and

[31:15] not discriminate against them

[31:16] in your own discrimination you

[31:17] know, anti-discrimination

[31:22] shenanigans of the dispatch.

[31:27] Of course it's important to

[31:28] have emergency dispatch but

[31:28] the concern is that when they

[31:29] dispatch out police fire or

[31:33] whoever it is, you know, we

[31:34] have police officers like San

[31:35] Diego Police Officer Anthony

[31:39] Warner who upon going on a call

[31:40] that he was dispatched to

[31:45] brutally, brutally beat a woman

[31:45] and is complaining about him

[31:46] pretending to have gotten beat

[31:51] and that he had to take off

[31:52] work He never did a lawful

[31:56] arrest ever at any point He

[31:57] never told Andrea Irving that

[31:58] she was under arrest.

[31:58] And so anything that were to

[32:03] happen in an unlawful arrest is

[32:03] warranted.

[32:04] Yet they are not saying

[32:08] the judge is trying to charge

[32:08] Andrea with a felony.

[32:09] He should be charged with a

[32:09] felony.

[32:14] Anthony Warner should be taken

[32:15] off of the San Diego Police

[32:15] Department force and actually

[32:19] he should be the one in prison

[32:19] for brutally assaulting a woman

[32:20] well knowing he should have

[32:25] de-escalated it.

[32:26] And for all of this military

[32:27] child stuff the sad thing is is

[32:27] that these wars are

[32:31] manufactured by the powers that

[32:32] shouldn't be and we fund them

[32:33] actually and potentially

[32:37] they're funded on both sides So

[32:38] it doesn't really matter who

[32:38] wins And we lose our own people

[32:39] and we have children that

[32:43] actually have to suffer

[32:43] through, you know, losing their

[32:44] parents or having to move

[32:45] around to fight wars that we

[32:49] shouldn't even be in.

[32:49] No wonder why everybody hates

[32:50] America and what's going to

[32:51] happen when you know this nice

[32:54] little draft comes in.

[32:55] You know, it's like all of

[32:56] these things that happen in

[32:57] the wind What are we going to

[33:00] give a proclamation for

[33:01] the people that had to do that?

[33:02] It's like instead of really

[33:02] stopping the atrocities that

[33:03] are happening we get

[33:06] proclamations to act like

[33:07] everything is okay when it's

[33:07] not.

[33:08] It's absurd that you guys are

[33:09] doing that to the Arab

[33:09] community.

[33:13] You should be ashamed of

[33:13] yourselves and you should be

[33:14] moving forward to make sure

[33:15] that you're inclusive with all

[33:19] Semites If you're going to do

[33:20] that it's B.S. You guys are

[33:20] full of.

[33:21] >> I'm sick of it Your time.

[33:25] I think that it next is 8700 If

[33:26] you can please unmute after

[33:31] the zoom user and Blair Beekman

[33:31] 8700 please proceed.

[33:32] Please let me know which item I

[33:37] wish to speak to.

[33:37] >> Thank you.

[33:38] It's 500 and it's 5 or 5

[33:39] Please.

[33:39] You'll have two minutes.

[33:46] Please proceed with Public

[33:47] safety Dispatcher Week.

[33:52] Here are my favorite likes from

[33:53] the transit Public safety

[33:58] dispatchers demonstrate on

[33:59] wavering professionalism,

[34:04] resilience and dedication in

[34:05] service to our community and

[34:06] quote I imagine during this

[34:10] special week there is a time

[34:11] there is time for special forms

[34:17] of recognition to these amazing

[34:17] people are the flowers, hugs

[34:22] and so forth.

[34:27] Dear dispatchers I have immense

[34:28] gratitude, immense gratitude

[34:33] for you and your service.

[34:34] Thank you so very much and love

[34:35] to all.

[34:40] If I go by if the San Diego

[34:44] Lynx Achievers Day 40th annual

[34:45] affair about 850 young men have

[34:52] been honored in the Achievers

[34:52] program.

[34:56] That's a surprise to me.

[34:57] We such wonderful leadership

[34:58] and mentorship in the program a

[35:02] very special shout out to you

[35:03] Councilmember Foster the third

[35:09] for this proclamation and for

[35:09] your involvement in this

[35:10] invaluable valuable program.

[35:14] Love to all and celebrate all

[35:14] people on the proclamation with

[35:21] today's Thank you.

[35:21] We do have three speakers left

[35:22] in the queue.

[35:23] The five minute timer has

[35:26] concluded no additional

[35:27] speakers will be taken.

[35:27] Zoom user If you can please

[35:28] unmute and let me know which

[35:33] item or items you wish to speak

[35:33] to After that will be blare and

[35:34] then Andrea then user I can't

[35:38] remember for you There you go.

[35:39] >> Please let me know which

[35:39] items can be here.

[35:43] I'd like to speak to the 31 and

[35:44] that's 5 or 1.

[35:45] >> You'll have two minutes.

[35:50] Please proceed.

[35:50] >> One thing housekeeping.

[35:51] So when you guys put those

[35:55] charts on the what you referred

[35:56] to Arab guys as Arab-American

[35:57] and the lady referred to

[36:01] herself as an American Arab.

[36:02] So maybe on the handouts but

[36:07] let's have everyone's names

[36:08] Start with Americans like

[36:08] Mexican American, Arab American

[36:13] whatever race or gender got

[36:18] going have them all listed as

[36:18] American first and then

[36:19] the nationality or whatever

[36:20] this month Good thing to do.

[36:24] She pointed that out when she

[36:24] talked about there are people

[36:25] in San Diego, California

[36:30] deserve free speech up and down

[36:30] the board.

[36:31] This is ridiculous.

[36:31] Our government our government

[36:36] is a clown.

[36:37] Just a communist.

[36:42] What is it?

[36:43] Free speech is the number one

[36:44] thing And the American Arabs in

[36:49] San Diego in California have

[36:49] done nothing but good here

[36:50] They've never seen a and stuff

[36:54] from liquor stores.

[36:54] They're not breaking into

[36:55] the Apple store the upper

[36:59] echelon of citizens in our

[36:59] country.

[37:00] You know, they're doctors,

[37:05] lawyers, artists.

[37:06] They are beautiful women.

[37:07] But one thing on a lighter

[37:12] note, I grew up here and in

[37:13] 1987 I had this job that I in

[37:18] all the persons came here of

[37:18] San Diego.

[37:19] They took all the beautiful

[37:25] women They were over in Del La

[37:25] La Hoya They a lot of mud and

[37:26] they're going for all the white

[37:30] shirts and white guy surfer

[37:31] going out here.

[37:31] But the Arab guys there they

[37:32] were scared and all the good

[37:35] women they had the money but

[37:36] hopefully their sons and

[37:41] daughters are joined the Marine

[37:42] Corps in the military too

[37:43] because we're going to need

[37:47] them anyway.

[37:48] >> Thank you guys for coming

[37:48] here And you do a great job and

[37:49] then the city's got a long way

[37:55] to go.

[37:55] >> Your time is concluded,

[37:56] Blair Because if you can please

[37:59] I mean all right.

[38:01] I wanted to speak to item 31

[38:04] and as 500 Please proceed.

[38:04] >> Go Two minutes.

[38:05] All right.

[38:05] Thank you.

[38:09] Thank you for the proclamations

[38:10] today.

[38:10] It was a very interesting

[38:11] presentation from

[38:15] the Arab-American Heritage

[38:15] Month next year.

[38:20] I hope that with the previous

[38:21] and recent ira issues that were

[38:22] brought to the city council

[38:27] about a month ago now or a few

[38:28] weeks ago now it can be a long

[38:33] term community effort and

[38:34] the woman who spoke today

[38:34] sounds like she could have a

[38:39] good voice in what can be a

[38:40] community process to define

[38:45] the future of ira which I think

[38:45] can be an interesting idea and

[38:46] how we work together in this

[38:51] country towards democracy and

[38:51] community and what we can all

[38:52] be working on together.

[38:57] What the future of Ira issues.

[38:57] Thank you.

[39:01] And for item s 500 I'm sorry.

[39:08] Very sorry.

[39:09] National Public Safety

[39:10] Disclosure Week That is an item

[39:14] that to me is not just in San

[39:20] Diego but in cities across

[39:20] California.

[39:21] They're having real issues

[39:21] about response times and that

[39:25] can be for a number of reasons

[39:26] going on that I can go into

[39:27] greater detail at another time

[39:27] in the work I do with

[39:32] accountability but just an

[39:32] overall thank you for the work

[39:33] of what dispatchers do kind of

[39:37] what Joyce said earlier They do

[39:38] a really important job and how

[39:42] they can do that job as

[39:43] humanely and as decently as

[39:43] possible in good humanistic

[39:44] terms.

[39:44] I don't know if that's

[39:49] the right term but to a good

[39:49] look how they can continue such

[39:50] good efforts.

[39:51] They have a very tough job a

[39:55] lot of the time to practice our

[39:55] best human values.

[39:56] Good luck how they can continue

[39:56] those efforts.

[40:01] Thanks.

[40:01] Thank you.

[40:02] Andrea your last speaker Please

[40:03] let me know which item or items

[40:08] you wish to speak to and I will

[40:12] speak to 3032 and as 500 you'll

[40:12] have three minutes.

[40:12] Thank you.

[40:13] Okay, perfect.

[40:17] So on for item 30 Steppingstone

[40:21] of San Diego is 50th

[40:22] anniversary.

[40:23] We are in a really serious

[40:28] situation at this moment in

[40:28] time in which we're contracting

[40:33] with the homeless and addiction

[40:34] service providers are at

[40:35] the tune of hundreds of

[40:40] millions of dollars But

[40:41] the problem just keeps doubling

[40:42] and tripling and the stats

[40:46] about it going down are all

[40:46] just lies.

[40:47] The overdose stats are all just

[40:47] lies.

[40:51] The rehabilitation stats 25%

[40:52] reduction in addiction Come on.

[40:52] It's unbelievable what's going

[40:57] on because the people in power

[40:58] in our county in our city right

[41:04] now specifically Summer Stephan

[41:04] and Todd Gloria and the rico

[41:05] enterprise that they are

[41:09] operating are absolutely

[41:10] involved in opioid

[41:10] distribution, international

[41:11] drug smuggling.

[41:12] When you contract with people

[41:16] to offer rehab services but

[41:16] they pump those rehabs full of

[41:17] the drugs that these people are

[41:22] addicted to, you're

[41:23] perpetuating the problem.

[41:23] We're busing people in from

[41:27] other states as a home project

[41:28] and they're homeless here

[41:29] because they can handle

[41:29] the weather.

[41:34] Look, the more we spend on this

[41:34] and the more we pay attention

[41:35] to it, the more we give

[41:36] proclamations to all this stuff

[41:36] that's just not working.

[41:39] That's obvious.

[41:40] It's just an insurance grab for

[41:41] the Affordable Care Act.

[41:44] I mean the city falling apart.

[41:45] What about the children,

[41:46] the elderly, the disabled?

[41:51] What about our constituents?

[41:52] >> What about, you know, using

[41:52] the funds that were provided

[41:57] for these programs to move

[41:57] forward?

[41:58] But they're not the programs

[41:59] are not being provided

[41:59] The services that are being

[42:03] provided that are promised

[42:04] the harm reduction case As far

[42:05] as Kevin Johnson goes, that's

[42:09] wonderful.

[42:10] Well, we'll come here.

[42:11] That's great recommendation but

[42:12] I recommend you act like a

[42:14] District seven councilmember

[42:14] and pay attention to Linda

[42:15] Vista.

[42:19] I was beaten severely in front

[42:20] of 40 children.

[42:20] That was the second major event

[42:21] in my life that's taken place

[42:26] in Linda Vista by a San Diego

[42:27] police officer.

[42:28] I haven't heard from your

[42:28] office one time not in all

[42:32] the years since my children

[42:32] protected from District seven.

[42:33] And also why are there no

[42:38] working lights or cameras at

[42:39] the rec center with all

[42:40] the murders that are taking

[42:40] place there?

[42:41] They're moving drugs right

[42:46] through that rec center and you

[42:46] haven't got to think about it.

[42:47] What about the dad that was

[42:48] picked up at Linda Vista

[42:48] Elementary School?

[42:49] We talked to family.

[42:50] If you talk to the school,

[42:51] nobody knows you exist.

[42:51] You're a city attorney that's

[42:52] trained to protect the city

[42:56] against its constituents and

[42:56] that's really unfair.

[42:57] Okay.

[42:57] National Public Safety Dispatch

[43:02] are we great.

[43:03] Let's dispatch 25 police

[43:04] officers to watch a woman get

[43:08] beat down the one that was

[43:09] doing the beating and the 24

[43:09] that were standing there on

[43:14] overtime not doing their job

[43:14] and laughing while Anthony

[43:15] Warner beat me up for

[43:16] whistleblowing about this

[43:21] kickback situation.

[43:22] >> Your time has concluded for

[43:22] those that raise their hand

[43:23] after the five minute time or

[43:24] you can submit comments to City

[43:27] Clerk exactly what occurred and

[43:28] those will be distributed.

[43:29] That concludes public comment.

[43:29] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[43:30] right.

[43:30] Thank you City Clerk And with

[43:32] that I'll turn over to my

[43:33] council colleagues for comments

[43:34] and entertain a motion and

[43:34] we'll start with Council member

[43:38] Foster Thank you Council

[43:39] PRESIDENT And just really want

[43:44] to congratulate all of

[43:44] the proclamation recipients and

[43:51] acknowledge mints With that I

[43:52] have quite a few I got to say a

[43:53] couple that I'm going to give

[43:56] some comments on So hopefully

[43:57] I'll go through this very

[43:57] quickly.

[43:58] Item 31 Arab-American Heritage

[44:03] Month month Again, just thank

[44:04] you to my colleagues and thank

[44:04] you to the Arab American

[44:08] Heritage Committee or Arab

[44:08] community.

[44:09] Thank you for your

[44:10] contributions to the city of

[44:14] San Diego and thank you for

[44:14] your presentation.

[44:15] I think that was as you can

[44:16] hear from the public comment,

[44:20] there's a lot of education that

[44:21] needs to take place And so just

[44:22] thank you for that And

[44:22] hopefully there's more work

[44:26] that we can do there In regards

[44:26] to items 500 National Public

[44:32] Safety Dispatch dispatcher Week

[44:32] When people call for help,

[44:33] dispatchers are the calm on

[44:34] the other end of the line

[44:38] guiding them through some of

[44:38] their hardest moments.

[44:39] They play a critical role in

[44:40] making sure help gets where it

[44:44] needs to go and that our first

[44:44] responders have the information

[44:45] they need.

[44:45] It's work that takes focus

[44:50] Patients and real strength

[44:50] often without recognition Their

[44:51] impact is felt across our city

[44:56] Every single day.

[44:57] Thank you to the dispatcher

[44:58] dispatchers and the work you do

[45:03] Month of Military of military

[45:04] Children in San Diego Military

[45:04] service touches all of us

[45:09] whether it's family, friends or

[45:09] neighbors.

[45:10] This month is about recognizing

[45:11] the kids who grow up in that

[45:14] life who move off and adapt

[45:15] quickly and carry a lot more

[45:16] than people MAY realize.

[45:16] They show a level of resilience

[45:21] and strength that deserves to

[45:22] be acknowledged.

[45:22] It's important that we continue

[45:23] to support and uplift military

[45:28] families here in our city of

[45:28] San in the city of San Diego.

[45:33] >> Item 5 or 4 Don Diego Day in

[45:38] the city of San Diego.

[45:38] I want to thank Gloria for

[45:39] joining me in recognizing

[45:40] someone truly deserving of this

[45:43] honor.

[45:44] Today we're celebrating someone

[45:45] who not only grew up in

[45:45] District four but dedicated his

[45:50] career to serving our city.

[45:51] Don Diego spent over three

[45:52] decades with the city

[45:55] contributing to operations that

[45:56] keep our neighborhoods running

[45:57] day to day.

[45:57] He helped improve processes and

[46:02] played a role in strengthening

[46:02] services including the street

[46:03] sweeping program as it exists

[46:07] today.

[46:08] Don As you enter retirement, we

[46:09] recognize the work you've put

[46:09] in over the years and wish you

[46:13] well earned rest in this next

[46:13] chapter.

[46:14] Thank you for your years of

[46:15] steady service to the city of

[46:19] San Diego.

[46:20] It was great seeing you at your

[46:21] retirement gathering and

[46:21] spending time with those hard

[46:25] at work on our front lines.

[46:26] >> Don if you'd like to come up

[46:36] and say a couple of quick words

[46:37] and just for clarification as I

[46:42] say, decades Don has spent 36

[46:42] years with the city of San

[46:43] Diego.

[46:43] So thank you, Don.

[46:44] Thank you, COUNCILMAN And

[46:47] Council members.

[46:48] Mayor, I'm really not a

[46:48] speaker.

[46:49] The last time I came and spoke

[46:54] here was in 2006 when I was

[46:59] impacted by the rift And now 20

[47:00] years later now I'm going into

[47:00] retirement.

[47:04] GOD had a plan wasn't done with

[47:04] me.

[47:05] How do people that I work with

[47:11] am I getting a respect and a

[47:11] loyalty to being a servant

[47:12] serving the community of San

[47:17] Diego?

[47:17] And I thank that.

[47:18] I thank you guys for an

[47:18] opportunity for opening all

[47:22] the doors that the city give to

[47:23] all of the employees that I

[47:23] work with And then I came

[47:29] across stormwater.

[47:30] I just imagine some people that

[47:34] had a big impact and in my life

[47:35] Chris McFadden of Bethany b

[47:41] Zack and Eddie Salinas and my

[47:42] bosses above me thank you for

[47:46] everything.

[47:47] I appreciate it Again, thank

[47:47] GOD for this opportunity and

[48:15] thank you guys.

[48:22] Thank you for that item As 505

[48:26] San Diego Lynx Achievers Day

[48:27] I'll do my best to get through

[48:33] this One of I'm proud to

[48:34] recognize the San Diego based

[48:38] Achievers program as it marks

[48:39] 40 years of uplifting and

[48:42] investing in young black men in

[48:48] our city.

[48:49] I came to this program myself

[48:53] Class of 1989 as did my son as

[48:59] well Class of 2022 and he will

[49:00] be graduating from Hampton

[49:09] University in MAY making us

[49:09] the first father and son legacy

[49:10] here in San Diego.

[49:15] So I've seen firsthand

[49:16] the impact this program has.

[49:16] >> The Achievers program builds

[49:21] leaders instills confidence and

[49:22] surrounds these young men with

[49:28] mentorship and support.

[49:28] For 40 years the San Diego

[49:29] chapter of the Links

[49:29] Incorporated have been

[49:33] intentional about creating a

[49:34] space where young black men are

[49:39] seen, supported and celebrated

[49:39] .

[49:40] Over 800 young men have come

[49:45] through this program each

[49:46] carrying that legacy forward

[49:51] this Saturday I have the honor

[49:52] of being one of the emcees for

[49:56] the 40th annual Affair of Honor

[49:57] .

[49:57] As we celebrate the next class

[49:58] of Achievers, I I'm grateful to

[50:03] be part of that legacy and

[50:03] proud to help recognize it here

[50:09] today to measure speeches win

[50:15] Just want to thank you Also I

[50:21] remember MISS MRS. Jewel Kelly

[50:22] as we were going through our

[50:22] program chasing us down,

[50:26] getting us to the dance

[50:27] rehearsal and making sure we

[50:28] were prepared for what we were

[50:33] about to endure.

[50:34] So I just want to say thank you

[50:38] from the bottom of my heart I

[50:39] always say it is the village

[50:39] that raised me.

[50:44] And the links are definitely a

[50:45] part of that village and a big

[50:46] reason why I can sit here today

[50:50] as a council member of

[50:51] the fourth District for

[50:51] the city of San Diego.

[50:52] So from the bottom of my heart

[50:56] thank you and thank you for

[50:57] your continued service and

[50:58] contribution to the city of San

[50:58] Diego.

[51:02] With that council PRESIDENT

[51:02] That concludes my comments and

[51:03] I will move the proclamations.

[51:09] Thank you very much.

[51:09] Councilmember Foster will go

[51:10] next to council member Campbell

[51:11] Thank you.

[51:17] Council PRESIDENT And thank you

[51:18] to my esteemed colleague for

[51:19] his words.

[51:24] Congratulations to everyone

[51:24] receiving Bronx today and thank

[51:25] you all for coming and thank

[51:30] you for that presentation at

[51:30] the beginning It was wonderful

[51:31] and we really appreciate it And

[51:36] I see that you welcome all

[51:36] religions and this is truly an

[51:37] American group.

[51:41] Thank you so much.

[51:42] I would like to speak today

[51:47] especially about item 30.

[51:48] This is a joint I was joined in

[51:53] this project by our mayor

[51:54] Gloria and my colleagues

[51:54] council members from in

[51:55] Vancouver.

[51:58] I want to thank them for that.

[51:59] This is the 50th anniversary

[52:04] day for Stepping Stone of San

[52:05] Diego and I don't know how many

[52:06] you've heard them but they've

[52:09] they've just been quietly doing

[52:10] fantastic work for 50 years,

[52:14] was founded in 1976 as a

[52:15] pioneering nonprofit dedicated

[52:15] to providing substance use

[52:21] treatment to the lgbtq

[52:21] community.

[52:22] In fact, Stepping Stone is one

[52:26] of the only nonprofits in

[52:27] the country that specializes in

[52:27] alcohol and drug recovery

[52:33] services for the lgbt

[52:33] community.

[52:34] I became familiar with Stepping

[52:34] Stone many years ago during my

[52:40] time on the board of the Human

[52:40] Dignity Foundation.

[52:41] They have always had a small

[52:45] residential treatment facility

[52:46] since their founding where they

[52:46] actually take in homeless

[52:51] people to give them a roof over

[52:52] their head as well as to treat

[52:52] their addiction problems and

[52:58] their other problems so that

[52:59] they can go on and live a full

[53:03] complete life over time they

[53:03] have dramatically expanded.

[53:04] They've expanded their

[53:05] outpatient and residential

[53:09] treatment for addiction now to

[53:10] four housing locations for

[53:14] patients.

[53:15] They provide 3 to 6 month

[53:20] programs for homeless addicted

[53:21] people That is focused on long

[53:24] term recovery including

[53:30] permanent housing.

[53:31] About 90% of their clients who

[53:32] enroll with them are facing

[53:37] homelessness.

[53:38] 100% are placed in housing in

[53:43] recovery six months after they

[53:43] graduate from their

[53:47] steppingstone program Over 50

[53:48] years they have estimated that

[53:52] they have served 40,000 lives

[53:53] lives that were actually saved

[53:58] and transformed these people by

[53:59] their programs.

[54:04] Congratulations on this big

[54:04] milestone.

[54:05] They are possibly the most

[54:05] effective homeless organization

[54:10] in this city in the county, in

[54:11] the state, in the entire

[54:11] nation.

[54:15] But they make such a positive

[54:16] impact on substance abuse

[54:17] disease that leads to

[54:22] homelessness among our lgbtq

[54:22] community members as well as

[54:27] other community members.

[54:28] You are providing the model of

[54:28] how to solve the public health

[54:33] problems of homelessness and

[54:34] addiction And I cannot thank

[54:39] you enough and I hope that we

[54:40] will continue to learn from you

[54:40] because of your great success.

[54:45] Congratulations on your 50th

[54:45] year.

[54:46] Thank you.

[54:46] Council PRESIDENT.

[54:47] All right, Councilmember

[54:51] Campbell, can we take that?

[54:52] I was happy to second all

[54:53] the products.

[54:53] Thank you.

[54:57] So with that we'll go next to

[54:57] Councilmember Eli Rivera.

[54:58] >> All right.

[54:58] Thank you.

[55:02] Council PRESIDENT.

[55:03] Thank you to my colleagues who

[55:04] helped bring these

[55:09] proclamations forward today.

[55:10] Lots of really good important

[55:10] stuff here.

[55:11] I want to say thank you to

[55:15] COUNCILMAN.

[55:16] Council PRESIDENT And the other

[55:16] council member Von Wilpert and

[55:17] Catherine compete for

[55:21] recognizing National Public

[55:21] Safety Dispatcher Week And it's

[55:22] an extremely important and

[55:26] stressful line of work that is

[55:27] quite literally oftentimes

[55:27] the first step in the process

[55:32] of addressing people's some of

[55:33] the stressful and urgent

[55:37] moments of people's lives And I

[55:38] appreciate the work that they

[55:43] do on a daily basis.

[55:44] Councilor Foster, thank you for

[55:45] recognizing City links

[55:49] Achievers Day.

[55:50] I just I think what I what I

[55:54] see when I see my colleague

[55:55] recognize you all is someone

[56:01] who had love poured into him by

[56:01] a community And that's a

[56:02] beautiful thing and it's a

[56:06] really, really beautiful thing

[56:07] And so thank you for doing that

[56:08] as as much of a softie as

[56:13] Councilmember Foster is, I know

[56:13] that that doesn't come without

[56:14] it coming from a real place and

[56:18] a place that really honors

[56:24] everyone who poured into him.

[56:25] I see that on a regular basis

[56:26] up here on the dais and I love

[56:31] that The point you make up of

[56:31] Foster about your son's

[56:34] graduation meaning that you'll

[56:35] be the first legacy family here

[56:35] in San Diego.

[56:36] That's a beautiful thing as

[56:41] well and clearly a byproduct of

[56:41] the work that you would say any

[56:42] things achievers have done over

[56:42] the years.

[56:46] So thank you for that and want

[56:47] to try I take some time to

[56:52] recognize Arab American

[56:52] heritage.

[56:52] Right.

[56:53] Thank you everyone who came

[56:53] down here today.

[56:58] Thank you for the presentation

[56:58] .

[56:59] I'm really glad that we are

[56:59] recognizing Arab-American

[57:04] heritage Month this year.

[57:04] The presentation was great and

[57:09] I think there's so much history

[57:09] there that is really important

[57:10] to share because there's a

[57:15] flattening of a community and a

[57:16] history that oftentimes happens

[57:16] in the way that the Arab

[57:20] American community is portrayed

[57:21] in this country And that's not

[57:21] right.

[57:22] The 22 countries across

[57:23] the Middle East and North

[57:27] Africa that you can trace your

[57:28] roots back to arriving to this

[57:33] country in waves often fleeing

[57:33] war, conscription, persecution

[57:39] But carrying traditions and

[57:40] ingenuity and resilience as as

[57:44] you as every Americans arrived

[57:50] here and each wave of

[57:51] immigration and migration to

[57:56] this country bringing new new

[57:57] things that are woven into who

[57:57] America is And that is some

[58:02] incredible stuff.

[58:02] The waffle cone is a great

[58:03] example, a delicious example

[58:08] And while it didn't start in

[58:08] the U.S. I will say tacos that

[58:09] I saw my favorite tacos and

[58:14] that is also a byproduct of

[58:15] migration And I think a great

[58:20] example of of of how our every

[58:25] Americans arrived contributed

[58:25] transform things and enrich

[58:32] things so much.

[58:32] And I also want to make sure

[58:33] that I acknowledge the weight

[58:34] that many American

[58:38] Arab-Americans are carrying

[58:39] right now with families with

[58:39] loved ones in Gaza and Lebanon

[58:43] and other parts of the world

[58:44] that are that are watching

[58:45] family members and people they

[58:49] love and can use to care about

[58:50] impacted by war Just know that

[58:51] we know that We see that We

[58:56] recognize that We see that

[58:56] grief and stand with you.

[59:02] And I also want to acknowledge

[59:02] the personal My paternal

[59:03] grandfather was a Sephardic

[59:04] Jews whose family came from

[59:07] Syria.

[59:08] His community is part of that

[59:12] mosaic of the Arab world,

[59:13] people of different faiths and

[59:18] and very, very diverse.

[59:19] And again that diversity has

[59:20] often been erased as a result

[59:24] of conflict and bigotry.

[59:25] And that story is a reminder

[59:31] that the region that we're

[59:31] honoring today is not

[59:32] monolithic.

[59:32] The people that we are honoring

[59:33] today I should say is not

[59:37] monolithic and never has been

[59:38] and that those those attempts

[59:43] to flatten the complexity of

[59:48] Americans it's going to work

[59:49] because there's there's too

[59:55] much there to to to to to raise

[59:55] .

[59:56] So we're celebrating

[59:56] the Arab-American family today

[1:00:00] celebrating diversity of

[1:00:01] beauty, tenacity and

[1:00:01] resilience.

[1:00:05] And I'm proud to be one of

[1:00:06] the sponsors of that

[1:00:06] proclamation.

[1:00:07] That concludes my comments.

[1:00:12] Council PRESIDENT Right.

[1:00:12] Thank you, Council member Eli

[1:00:13] Rivera And again we do have a

[1:00:16] motion by Councilmember Foster

[1:00:17] and second by council member

[1:00:17] Campbell.

[1:00:18] Next up Yes, Councilmember Von

[1:00:21] Wilpert, thank you very much

[1:00:22] and thank you to my colleagues

[1:00:22] for reading for such wonderful

[1:00:23] proclamations As usual, I'm

[1:00:23] done here.

[1:00:26] Congratulations on your

[1:00:27] retirement.

[1:00:27] Thank you for your decades of

[1:00:28] service to the city.

[1:00:29] I thank you for everyone to be

[1:00:29] here.

[1:00:32] I'll start with item 30 a

[1:00:33] stepping stone a city goes 50th

[1:00:34] anniversary day.

[1:00:34] I am proud to join my

[1:00:35] colleagues in recognizing

[1:00:39] stepping stone of San Diego 50

[1:00:40] years of service.

[1:00:41] I believe some of you are here.

[1:00:41] If you own stands we can

[1:00:55] recognize you Since 1976 they

[1:00:55] built a lifeline for people in

[1:00:56] recovery providing

[1:01:00] compassionate affirming care

[1:01:00] and the focus on serving

[1:01:01] the lgbtq community ensures

[1:01:06] that people feel safe, seen and

[1:01:06] supported because there can be

[1:01:07] many reasons that folks who are

[1:01:08] lgbtq are suffering from

[1:01:11] addiction.

[1:01:12] Much of it is due to stigma

[1:01:12] discrimination harassment

[1:01:17] because of who we are.

[1:01:18] >> So through medical

[1:01:18] treatment, outpatient services

[1:01:19] and sober living that help

[1:01:22] people achieve lasting recovery

[1:01:23] and self-love, this work

[1:01:24] strengthens families, build

[1:01:25] healthier communities across

[1:01:28] the Diego and thank you to

[1:01:29] the staff and congratulations

[1:01:30] then on the city.

[1:01:30] We are so happy to be

[1:01:31] partnering with you in helping

[1:01:34] to use our opioid settlement

[1:01:35] funds from suing opioid

[1:01:35] companies who put fentanyl out

[1:01:40] onto our streets to actually do

[1:01:40] good with it.

[1:01:41] So we're very proud that we're

[1:01:42] partnering with Steppingstone

[1:01:42] to do that good work to do

[1:01:45] the healing we need to do And

[1:01:46] I'm happy to see what Sackler

[1:01:47] family Purdue Pharma any day So

[1:01:51] on item 31 I'm looking forward

[1:01:52] to the gala by the way on

[1:01:52] Friday And item 31

[1:01:56] Arab-Americans Arab American

[1:01:57] Heritage Month.

[1:01:58] Thank you so much for that

[1:01:58] incredible presentation.

[1:01:59] It was very, very good And

[1:02:02] thank you to my colleagues for

[1:02:03] bringing for this recognition.

[1:02:03] Arab Americans have made

[1:02:04] lasting contributions to our

[1:02:07] city and country across

[1:02:08] education, medicine, business,

[1:02:09] public service and the arts and

[1:02:09] Latin artists.

[1:02:13] We believe in arts here San

[1:02:14] Diego is home to a strong and

[1:02:15] vibrant Arab-American community

[1:02:15] that continues to shape our

[1:02:19] region with culture traditions

[1:02:20] and a strong sense of family

[1:02:21] and community that enrich our

[1:02:21] city.

[1:02:25] We also recognize

[1:02:25] the resilience of this

[1:02:26] community and the importance of

[1:02:27] stand against discrimination,

[1:02:30] harmful stereotypes and hate

[1:02:31] and violence.

[1:02:31] It's pretty horrible to see

[1:02:32] that there were bombings It

[1:02:36] centers just to talk about

[1:02:37] discrimination.

[1:02:38] You know, I've seen I was a

[1:02:38] civil rights lawyer in

[1:02:41] Mississippi and I know

[1:02:42] the history of that.

[1:02:42] It's terrible to think that

[1:02:43] happened here in California

[1:02:43] too.

[1:02:44] So it's important that we

[1:02:47] educate people on what happens.

[1:02:48] But I'm glad that this month

[1:02:49] it's a chance to celebrate all

[1:02:52] of those who contribute to our

[1:02:53] society and our culture and

[1:02:54] reaffirm government and

[1:02:54] inclusion and respect for all.

[1:02:59] I'm proud to recognize Arab

[1:02:59] American Heritage Month to

[1:03:00] celebrate the many

[1:03:00] contributions Arab-Americans

[1:03:05] bring across the nation.

[1:03:05] So thank you.

[1:03:06] And item as 500 National Public

[1:03:07] Safety Dispatcher Week I'm very

[1:03:10] proud to join my colleague in

[1:03:11] recognizing our National Public

[1:03:11] Safety Dispatcher Week When

[1:03:14] someone calls 911 you are

[1:03:15] literally the first voice they

[1:03:16] hear in those crucial moment

[1:03:20] and you are the calm in

[1:03:20] the chaos.

[1:03:21] >> So if we have any of our

[1:03:22] dispatchers here could you

[1:03:22] please stand and let us

[1:03:36] recognize you as well?

[1:03:37] Thank you so much for for your

[1:03:37] incredible work.

[1:03:42] You know, I just didn't in 2023

[1:03:43] in 2024 alone I don't think we

[1:03:44] have the data yet for last year

[1:03:47] You all managed a staggering

[1:03:52] 734,000 calls for 911 averaging

[1:03:56] over 2000 now one calls a day

[1:03:57] 80 491 calls per hour and

[1:03:57] almost 1.4 called every minute

[1:04:01] When someone is asking for

[1:04:02] help, Your team has dispatched

[1:04:06] nearly 500,000 calls for

[1:04:06] service making sure that our

[1:04:07] firefighters, our empties, our

[1:04:12] paramedics, our police,

[1:04:12] sometimes our lifeguards, you

[1:04:13] know, get out the door.

[1:04:14] And I've been to the dispatch

[1:04:14] center.

[1:04:17] I highly recommend everybody go

[1:04:18] and visit.

[1:04:18] We are also hiring if you want

[1:04:19] to be that calm in the chaos

[1:04:22] and it is incredible what you

[1:04:23] do in the compassion with what

[1:04:23] you do it.

[1:04:24] And so I also want to remind

[1:04:25] you to please take care of

[1:04:28] yourself because you also are

[1:04:29] hearing so many people go

[1:04:30] through the worst days of their

[1:04:33] lives every day and helping

[1:04:34] them through it.

[1:04:35] So please make sure you're

[1:04:35] taking care of yourself as

[1:04:35] well.

[1:04:36] I'm a big proponent of mental

[1:04:39] health.

[1:04:40] I see a therapist on a regular

[1:04:40] basis and I'm proud of it.

[1:04:41] We shouldn't be stigmatizing it

[1:04:45] So I just want to thank you so

[1:04:45] much for your work.

[1:04:46] We're very, very, very proud

[1:04:46] you're here including I hear

[1:04:50] that and I don't mean to steal

[1:04:51] my good friend and colleague

[1:04:51] Councilmember Campos Thunder

[1:04:52] but a District seven intern

[1:04:55] started at City Hall and is now

[1:04:56] a dispatcher and we're very,

[1:04:56] very proud of that.

[1:04:57] So thank you for your

[1:04:58] professionalism, dedication to

[1:05:01] your service.

[1:05:01] Thank you to our firefighters,

[1:05:02] ems workers and police and

[1:05:07] lifeguard as well Items 5a1

[1:05:07] finally month of the military

[1:05:08] child.

[1:05:08] I want to take a moment to

[1:05:09] recognize APRIL is the month of

[1:05:12] the military child here in San

[1:05:12] Diego we are home to one of

[1:05:13] the largest military

[1:05:14] communities in the nation

[1:05:17] including thousands of military

[1:05:18] connected kids.

[1:05:19] These kids grow up with a lot

[1:05:19] of change moving from schools

[1:05:22] from time to time and having

[1:05:23] parents deployed abroad And

[1:05:24] through all of that they show a

[1:05:28] level of resilience strength

[1:05:28] that really stands out.

[1:05:29] You bring so much to our

[1:05:29] communities including

[1:05:30] leadership perspective, a

[1:05:34] strong sense of service and a

[1:05:35] global perspective of so many

[1:05:36] children of military families

[1:05:39] is absolutely amazing and

[1:05:40] beautiful.

[1:05:40] Same thing with our Foreign

[1:05:41] Service officers And you MAY

[1:05:44] see many people wearing purple

[1:05:45] .

[1:05:45] This wanted a simple way to

[1:05:46] show support for our military

[1:05:46] children.

[1:05:47] My own father served in the us

[1:05:50] Army during the Vietnam era so

[1:05:51] before I was born but very

[1:05:51] proud of his service as well

[1:05:55] And I'm also proud to recognize

[1:05:56] the month of the military child

[1:05:57] and impact that you all have in

[1:05:57] San Diego.

[1:05:58] So thank you very much and

[1:06:01] thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[1:06:02] right.

[1:06:02] Thank you couple number one

[1:06:03] Wolpert we'll go next to

[1:06:06] councilmember Whitman thank you

[1:06:07] that's a PRESIDENT That I too

[1:06:08] want to congratulate all of

[1:06:08] those who are being recognized

[1:06:11] with proclamations today

[1:06:11] including DR. Diego for your

[1:06:12] retirement congratulations and

[1:06:13] thank you for your service to

[1:06:17] our city and San Diego Lakes

[1:06:17] Achievers Day Councilmember

[1:06:21] Foster's testimonial is

[1:06:22] evidence of how impactful that

[1:06:23] program is and congratulations

[1:06:26] on being the first father, said

[1:06:27] Graduates I am proud to join my

[1:06:28] colleagues in bringing forward

[1:06:31] the proclamation Declare a

[1:06:32] stepping stone of say Diego

[1:06:32] 50th Anniversary day.

[1:06:36] i have heard many stories over

[1:06:37] the years from people of

[1:06:37] the lgbtq Plus community who

[1:06:41] have benefited from stepping

[1:06:42] stone services and those

[1:06:43] stories have stayed with me

[1:06:46] Stepping stone truly beats

[1:06:47] people where they are and that

[1:06:48] is so important especially

[1:06:51] people who have historically

[1:06:52] been underserved or overlooked

[1:06:53] in some way and for many of

[1:06:58] the lgbtq plus community

[1:06:58] finding treatment that is both

[1:06:59] effective and affirming hasn't

[1:07:02] always been easy.

[1:07:03] Stepping stone has filled that

[1:07:03] gap for five decades.

[1:07:08] What really stands out is that

[1:07:08] it's not just about completing

[1:07:09] a program it's what comes after

[1:07:13] as well.

[1:07:14] Stepping Stone has helped

[1:07:14] countless individuals rebuild

[1:07:18] their lives, find stability

[1:07:19] again, reconnect with family,

[1:07:20] secure housing and actually

[1:07:24] start to feel hopeful about

[1:07:24] the path forward.

[1:07:25] So congratulations.

[1:07:28] It's a stepping stone at 50

[1:07:28] years and thank you for

[1:07:29] everything that you have done

[1:07:29] for our city.

[1:07:33] I want to congratulate or thank

[1:07:34] Council PRESIDENT Lakota

[1:07:38] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[1:07:38] and Councilmember Isla Rivera

[1:07:39] for bringing forward

[1:07:39] the proclamation honoring Arab

[1:07:43] American heritage.

[1:07:43] But it's a time to honor

[1:07:44] the rich culture and history of

[1:07:48] the Arab American community.

[1:07:49] I too thought the presentation

[1:07:49] was very informative.

[1:07:50] Thank you for sharing that with

[1:07:53] us this morning And we are

[1:07:54] grateful for everything that

[1:07:54] the Arab community contributes

[1:07:55] to our city.

[1:07:58] Thank you Also to Council

[1:07:59] PRESIDENT Lacob, Councilmember

[1:08:00] Wilpert and Councilmember Campo

[1:08:03] for recognizing National Public

[1:08:04] Safety Dispatcher Week.

[1:08:08] I also want to take recognize

[1:08:09] our public safety dispatchers

[1:08:09] who spend their workdays

[1:08:10] answering calls for people who

[1:08:14] are in crisis many of whom

[1:08:15] the regulators or the fire

[1:08:15] department or the police

[1:08:16] department.

[1:08:18] These dispatchers provide a

[1:08:19] calm and reassuring voice when

[1:08:23] it is needed the most and

[1:08:24] provide vital information to

[1:08:27] our public safety personnel

[1:08:28] that give it its density.

[1:08:29] District three has the highest

[1:08:33] number of calls for emergencies

[1:08:34] service to the city.

[1:08:35] So on behalf of my district and

[1:08:35] my constituents I want to

[1:08:38] express our deep appreciation

[1:08:39] for the important role that you

[1:08:40] play in protecting the safety

[1:08:44] of my constituents.

[1:08:45] So thank you very much and

[1:08:45] thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[1:08:46] All right.

[1:08:46] Thank you, counsel.

[1:08:49] My return will go to council

[1:08:50] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee then

[1:08:51] council PRESIDENT Want to start

[1:08:54] off with recognizing that many

[1:08:55] of my colleagues have brought

[1:08:55] forward proclamations of note

[1:08:56] today.

[1:08:59] So to Don Diego thank you for

[1:08:59] your 36 years and serving

[1:09:00] the city of San Diego.

[1:09:04] Thank you to all of our

[1:09:04] dispatchers in attendance today

[1:09:05] and certainly for their work

[1:09:08] every single day for the city

[1:09:09] And a stepping stone for your

[1:09:09] 50th anniversary.

[1:09:14] Look forward to your

[1:09:14] celebration coming up and same

[1:09:15] as others.

[1:09:18] Thank you to Councilmember

[1:09:18] Foster for always taking a

[1:09:19] moment to share not just what

[1:09:20] we see in the community in

[1:09:24] terms of organizations like

[1:09:24] Sandy Links with your Achievers

[1:09:29] program But the impact that it

[1:09:30] truly has on individuals living

[1:09:33] here serving on this dais.

[1:09:34] I wanted to take a moment to

[1:09:35] speak to two proclamations

[1:09:35] today.

[1:09:38] First is item 31 where I'm

[1:09:39] honored to join Council

[1:09:39] PRESIDENT LaCava and my

[1:09:42] colleague Counsel Mary Lou

[1:09:43] Rivera on proclaiming APRIL as

[1:09:44] Arab American Heritage Month.

[1:09:48] As mentioned, our city is home

[1:09:48] to approximately 100,000 Arab

[1:09:49] Americans who enrich our

[1:09:52] communities through their

[1:09:53] culture, language, traditions,

[1:09:53] arts.

[1:09:57] I think we heard culinary and

[1:09:58] their embrace of family and

[1:09:58] community.

[1:10:02] You've made invaluable

[1:10:03] contributions to our region

[1:10:03] through your work in education

[1:10:07] technology, law, medicine,

[1:10:08] government and more.

[1:10:12] And you've thought long and

[1:10:13] continue to fight for progress

[1:10:13] and inclusion in the country.

[1:10:14] I want to thank you for

[1:10:17] the presentation as well.

[1:10:18] I think I know it was cut short

[1:10:19] a bit but I imagine that if it

[1:10:22] was beneficial for those of us

[1:10:23] sitting up here that really

[1:10:24] would be beneficial for more of

[1:10:27] the public to better understand

[1:10:28] what it means to be Arab

[1:10:28] American and that when we talk

[1:10:32] about that diversity how that

[1:10:33] really ties into the fabric of

[1:10:33] San Diego.

[1:10:37] i think it's important

[1:10:37] especially at a time where we

[1:10:38] understand that our federal

[1:10:42] administration continues to

[1:10:42] advance a rhetoric and an

[1:10:43] agenda that targets many

[1:10:47] immigrant communities including

[1:10:47] Arab-American communities in

[1:10:48] the countries that those

[1:10:49] families are from.

[1:10:52] And it's important that here in

[1:10:53] San Diego in a space like this

[1:10:54] that we take the time to

[1:10:54] acknowledge, to honor and to

[1:10:57] celebrate the Arab-American

[1:10:58] community as an integral part

[1:11:02] of what we call the diversity

[1:11:02] of San Diego.

[1:11:03] Finally, I think those who have

[1:11:07] known me know that I have a

[1:11:08] background with an organization

[1:11:09] called Pacific Arts Movement

[1:11:09] which helped to put on

[1:11:11] the annual San Diego Asian Film

[1:11:12] Festival.

[1:11:12] So I want to take a moment to

[1:11:15] shout out that this weekend

[1:11:16] APRIL 17th through 19th is

[1:11:17] the second weekend of the San

[1:11:17] Diego Arab Film Festival which

[1:11:21] is taking place at the Museum

[1:11:21] of Photographic Arts in Double

[1:11:22] Park.

[1:11:25] So for those who are interested

[1:11:26] ,please make sure to check

[1:11:26] that out.

[1:11:29] Second, I want to speak to item

[1:11:30] 5a1 which is the month of

[1:11:30] military child.

[1:11:33] And to join my colleagues in

[1:11:34] proclaiming APRIL 2026 as

[1:11:35] the month of the military child

[1:11:38] San Diego is again as

[1:11:39] Councilmember Van Wilpert

[1:11:40] mentioned, home to one of

[1:11:40] the largest military

[1:11:43] populations in our country and

[1:11:44] our region is shaped in many

[1:11:45] ways by our military families.

[1:11:46] In District six we have an

[1:11:49] especially strong military

[1:11:49] presence not just because of

[1:11:50] the population of veterans but

[1:11:53] also Marine Corps Air station

[1:11:53] Miramar which is located within

[1:11:57] our district's boundaries.

[1:11:58] And those who choose to serve

[1:11:59] our country choose to make some

[1:12:02] significant sacrifices and that

[1:12:03] service extends well beyond

[1:12:03] those individuals to

[1:12:07] the families that they

[1:12:07] represent.

[1:12:08] Military children in particular

[1:12:12] face unique challenges with

[1:12:12] their frequent relocation,

[1:12:13] school transitions, parental

[1:12:17] deployments and has a huge

[1:12:17] impact not just on the child

[1:12:18] but on the family that is

[1:12:21] looking to support these

[1:12:22] children.

[1:12:23] And it means that as a city I

[1:12:23] think for us in order to

[1:12:26] support those families we have

[1:12:27] to think about how we actually

[1:12:27] support the children and young

[1:12:31] children in particular that are

[1:12:32] impacted in these really unique

[1:12:32] ways.

[1:12:36] So we take this month to

[1:12:36] recognize the strength of these

[1:12:37] families and to share our

[1:12:41] gratitude for the service that

[1:12:42] they provide to our country.

[1:12:42] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[1:12:43] Excuse my remarks.

[1:12:43] All right.

[1:12:46] Thank you.

[1:12:47] Potentially we'll go next to

[1:12:48] Council Member Hill Thank you

[1:12:50] Council PRESIDENT And thank you

[1:12:51] to all of the members of

[1:12:52] the public who are here those

[1:12:54] receiving proclamations.

[1:12:55] I want to start off with item

[1:12:56] 31 Arab-American Heritage

[1:12:56] Month.

[1:12:57] I want to appreciate

[1:13:00] the members of the Arab

[1:13:00] community who've come today.

[1:13:01] The presentation was very

[1:13:04] informative And Art obviously

[1:13:05] very beautiful Growing up in

[1:13:06] East County some of my closest

[1:13:06] friends and many of my

[1:13:09] classmates were

[1:13:10] Iraqi-Americans, Chaldeans And

[1:13:14] so understanding their culture

[1:13:15] ,their immigration stories,

[1:13:15] understanding the small

[1:13:16] businesses that they've started

[1:13:19] and their flourishing

[1:13:19] throughout San Diego.

[1:13:20] Very proud to call the Arab

[1:13:20] American community friends of

[1:13:24] mine for a long, long time And

[1:13:25] thank you for being here today

[1:13:28] on item 31 Kevin Johnson Day

[1:13:29] I'm proud to bring forward this

[1:13:29] day as we celebrate the long

[1:13:30] awaited opening of the Ruffin

[1:13:33] Canyon Trail that connects

[1:13:34] Sierra Mesa to Mission Valley

[1:13:34] at the Escala community across

[1:13:37] from the Costco as project did

[1:13:38] not happen by chance It

[1:13:39] happened only because Kevin

[1:13:42] Johnston never let it go.

[1:13:43] So after years of persistence

[1:13:43] and advocacy partnership with

[1:13:47] my office, he turned that

[1:13:48] vision into a real tangible

[1:13:48] asset for the Sierra mesa

[1:13:49] community.

[1:13:51] So I look forward to

[1:13:52] celebrating the milestone on

[1:13:52] Friday when we will officially

[1:13:53] open that trail and invite

[1:13:56] everyone out to experience it

[1:13:57] And after we've made that hike

[1:14:00] enjoy $1.50 cent Costco hotdog

[1:14:05] afterwards dollar 67 after tax

[1:14:05] Thank you.

[1:14:06] Council PRESIDENT LaCava

[1:14:07] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[1:14:10] and Council member Von Wilpert

[1:14:11] for joining me in proclaiming

[1:14:11] APRIL as month of the Military

[1:14:12] child We all know that San

[1:14:15] Diego is the home of

[1:14:15] the largest military community

[1:14:16] in our country and that means

[1:14:17] that thousands of military

[1:14:20] children show strength and

[1:14:21] resilience on a daily basis

[1:14:21] that goes unrecognized.

[1:14:25] My office is proud to partner

[1:14:26] with the armed Services ymca in

[1:14:26] Tears Santa as well as Hancock

[1:14:29] and Millard Miller Elementaries

[1:14:30] As we support these children

[1:14:31] and ensure they have stability

[1:14:34] and resources they need, we we

[1:14:35] honor those who serve in

[1:14:36] uniform and we must honor their

[1:14:39] family members and especially

[1:14:39] the children who serve in their

[1:14:40] own way.

[1:14:40] Their sacrifice is

[1:14:43] extraordinary and it is real

[1:14:44] and they deserve our

[1:14:44] recognition and support.

[1:14:45] And finally recognizing public

[1:14:49] safety Dispatcher we are

[1:14:50] honored to join council members

[1:14:50] John Wilburn and Council

[1:14:53] PRESIDENT LaCava.

[1:14:54] The first voice you hear in an

[1:14:55] emergency is the dispatcher.

[1:14:58] So right when people pray that

[1:14:58] their guardian angel shows up

[1:14:59] to help them, the dispatchers

[1:15:03] voice is what comes through

[1:15:03] the telephone.

[1:15:04] They bring in calm and clarity

[1:15:05] and direction when it matters

[1:15:05] most.

[1:15:08] It's a demanding high stakes

[1:15:08] job.

[1:15:09] It requires constant focus and

[1:15:12] resilience and compassion often

[1:15:12] goes unseen.

[1:15:13] One of my favorite so so-called

[1:15:17] ride alongs I wasn't riding

[1:15:17] anywhere.

[1:15:18] I was sitting in a chair next

[1:15:18] to a dispatcher for several

[1:15:22] hours and hearing what comes

[1:15:22] through the phone.

[1:15:23] i would never be able to do

[1:15:27] that job myself but proud to

[1:15:27] support you all and what you do

[1:15:28] And I'll take a moment to

[1:15:32] highlight someone from our own

[1:15:32] District seven office who

[1:15:33] recently stepped into that

[1:15:33] role.

[1:15:37] Izzy Rojas When I was here MS.

[1:15:38] Rojas served as an intern in my

[1:15:38] office for a year and since

[1:15:41] then grew professionally taking

[1:15:42] on roles in the county of San

[1:15:43] Diego In the private sector.

[1:15:43] She's still passionate about

[1:15:46] several things like photography

[1:15:47] and somehow chargers football.

[1:15:51] I am incredibly proud to see

[1:15:52] her continue her public service

[1:15:52] as a public safety dispatcher.

[1:15:53] So thank you to all

[1:15:54] the dispatchers who are here

[1:15:57] today and for all you do in

[1:15:58] the vital work of keeping San

[1:16:01] Diego America's safest big city

[1:16:01] .

[1:16:02] >> And that will conclude my

[1:16:02] comments.

[1:16:03] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[1:16:03] All right.

[1:16:05] Thank you, Councilmember Campo

[1:16:06] .

[1:16:06] Since all of my colleagues have

[1:16:07] spoken, I'll jump in.

[1:16:11] And today for me personally is

[1:16:12] a good reminder of why we do

[1:16:12] these proclamations an

[1:16:15] opportunity to step aside from

[1:16:16] our legislative agenda and tell

[1:16:17] stories whether it's

[1:16:21] congratulate stations or very

[1:16:21] personal stories is really an

[1:16:22] extraordinary moment.

[1:16:26] So thank you to my colleagues

[1:16:27] and everybody else involved to

[1:16:30] keep the proclamations front

[1:16:31] and center and what the city

[1:16:35] council can do and thinking My

[1:16:36] colleagues for

[1:16:36] the proclamations that were

[1:16:37] brought forward are

[1:16:40] congratulations for everyone

[1:16:41] that is being recognized.

[1:16:41] I'm going to speak to three of

[1:16:42] them and I'm going to take them

[1:16:45] in reverse order as 5 or 1

[1:16:50] month of the military child as

[1:16:51] we many of my colleagues have

[1:16:51] spoken, San Diego is home to

[1:16:52] one of the largest military

[1:16:56] communities in the nation and I

[1:16:56] joined Council PRESIDENT Pro

[1:16:57] Tem Lee Council member Yvonne

[1:17:00] Wolpert and Councilmember Campo

[1:17:00] in recognizing one segment of

[1:17:01] the military community that

[1:17:05] often can be overlooked.

[1:17:05] Children of military families

[1:17:06] are faced with the challenges

[1:17:09] of having to make frequent

[1:17:10] relocations to new locations

[1:17:11] into a new home and often into

[1:17:15] a new school for San Diego has

[1:17:15] no shortage of thank you's for

[1:17:16] the military members who serve

[1:17:20] our country every day we often

[1:17:20] forget the sacrifices it takes

[1:17:24] to make it happen with their

[1:17:24] families.

[1:17:25] Today we proclaim the month of

[1:17:25] APRIL as the month of

[1:17:26] the military child to shine a

[1:17:29] light on the members of

[1:17:30] the family that continue to

[1:17:30] mold to their new environment

[1:17:34] without complaint or hesitation

[1:17:35] or maybe a little complaint or

[1:17:38] hesitation Your resilience and

[1:17:39] courage in constantly facing

[1:17:40] new challenges is admirable and

[1:17:43] we are grateful for supporting

[1:17:48] your military parents item as

[1:17:48] 500 National Public Safety

[1:17:49] Dispatcher Week Another group

[1:17:53] of people who do amazing work

[1:17:53] in San Diego our very own

[1:17:54] public safety dispatchers.

[1:17:58] Thank you to my council

[1:17:58] colleagues, council members

[1:17:59] Yvonne Wolpert and

[1:18:00] Councilmember Campo And joining

[1:18:02] me to celebrate the people who

[1:18:03] answer the call that no one

[1:18:03] ever wants to make and all

[1:18:07] these responders are not at

[1:18:07] the scene.

[1:18:08] They are present every single

[1:18:08] step of the way.

[1:18:12] And for providing clearance

[1:18:13] struction so simply being a

[1:18:13] calm voice in a moment of chaos

[1:18:14] they are vital to the San Diego

[1:18:16] public safety.

[1:18:17] Thank you for your

[1:18:18] professionalism, dedication and

[1:18:22] commitment to keeping San

[1:18:22] Diego's San Diegans protected

[1:18:23] and heard And I share this

[1:18:26] story in particular because it

[1:18:26] is personal.

[1:18:30] We had an incident we called

[1:18:31] 911 and I could not have

[1:18:36] expected what that dispatcher

[1:18:36] did staying on the phone call

[1:18:40] me me and my wife down and

[1:18:41] stuck with us at every moment

[1:18:43] until the officers first came

[1:18:44] up to our door.

[1:18:45] It is an experience I will

[1:18:47] never forget.

[1:18:48] So thank you to the public

[1:18:49] safety dispatchers for what you

[1:18:54] do for all those people who as

[1:18:54] I said make those calls that

[1:18:55] nobody wants to make and

[1:18:59] closing with item 31 Arab

[1:18:59] American Heritage Month I am

[1:19:03] joined by my colleagues council

[1:19:04] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee and

[1:19:06] Councilmember Eula Rivera to

[1:19:07] proclaim APRIL 2226 as APRIL

[1:19:08] American Arab American Heritage

[1:19:11] Month making up more than 10%

[1:19:12] of San Diego's population.

[1:19:15] Arab Americans play a

[1:19:16] foundational part in

[1:19:16] the diverse culture of our city

[1:19:17] from their contributions to

[1:19:20] society through technological

[1:19:21] advances, medical research,

[1:19:22] legal advances and more.

[1:19:26] They continue to further push

[1:19:26] boundaries in every field of

[1:19:27] study and service to

[1:19:30] the American Arab

[1:19:31] Anti-Discrimination Committee.

[1:19:31] Thank you for your advocacy

[1:19:35] work that you do to continue to

[1:19:36] uplift the Arab-American

[1:19:36] community in San Diego.

[1:19:40] And with that I will invite

[1:19:40] the PRESIDENT Of the Arab

[1:19:41] American Arab

[1:19:45] Anti-Discrimination Committee

[1:19:46] San Diego chapter Amr Khaldun

[1:19:50] if I got that right to take a

[1:19:51] couple of minutes to make a few

[1:19:51] remarks on behalf of

[1:19:54] the chapter Sir Thank you.

[1:19:55] >> Council PRESIDENT The cover

[1:20:00] of Council members Lee and Ella

[1:20:04] Rivera for introducing

[1:20:04] the proclamation and esteemed

[1:20:05] Council members for recognizing

[1:20:09] APRIL as Arab American Heritage

[1:20:09] Month.

[1:20:10] My name is I'm Mark Jordan.

[1:20:13] I'm the acting PRESIDENT For

[1:20:13] the American-Arab

[1:20:14] Anti-Discrimination Committee.

[1:20:18] It is a profound honor to

[1:20:18] accept this proclamation on

[1:20:22] behalf of the community that

[1:20:23] considers San Diego its home a

[1:20:27] city that has opened its arms

[1:20:27] to immigrants from Somalia,

[1:20:28] Iraq, Syria and beyond.

[1:20:32] The city uses Arabic language

[1:20:33] the word Marhaba Hello.

[1:20:36] Meet you at the entrance of

[1:20:37] this building as a bridge of

[1:20:37] communication.

[1:20:41] And today we celebrate that

[1:20:42] vibrant thread in the fabric of

[1:20:42] our city.

[1:20:46] However, as with any true

[1:20:47] partnership, the relationship

[1:20:48] between our community and this

[1:20:51] Council must be based on more

[1:20:52] than just ceremony.

[1:20:56] It must be based on shared

[1:20:56] principle.

[1:20:57] While we celebrate today we

[1:20:57] must also address where

[1:21:00] the relationship is strained

[1:21:01] first.

[1:21:01] Protecting human Lives in San

[1:21:05] Diego As we said, we estimate

[1:21:06] there are over 100,000 Arabs

[1:21:11] and hundreds and hundreds

[1:21:11] thousand Muslims.

[1:21:14] >> Thank you who usually align

[1:21:15] with Arabs who look to this

[1:21:16] body for moral leadership.

[1:21:20] When our community asked you to

[1:21:21] adopt a ceasefire resolution we

[1:21:24] were not asking you to change

[1:21:25] the course of a war thousands

[1:21:25] of miles away.

[1:21:29] We were asking you to take a

[1:21:30] stand for the sanctity of human

[1:21:30] life.

[1:21:34] With over 70,000 Palestinians

[1:21:37] killed including 20,000

[1:21:38] children, the cruelty of

[1:21:39] the occupation is a lived

[1:21:43] reality for many San Diegans

[1:21:44] whose families have faced

[1:21:48] ethnic cleansing for over 75

[1:21:48] years.

[1:21:53] Well before OCTOBER 7th, many

[1:21:53] San Diegans lost San Diego and

[1:21:56] Palestinians lost more than 200

[1:21:57] members of their families in

[1:21:57] Gaza.

[1:22:02] We ask for a relationship where

[1:22:02] our pain is seen and our calls

[1:22:03] for peace are heard.

[1:22:05] Second, protecting our First

[1:22:06] Amendment rights.

[1:22:10] The partnership requires

[1:22:11] the honest dialog.

[1:22:12] A few weeks ago the Council

[1:22:15] voted for resolution to define

[1:22:16] anti-Semitism in a way that

[1:22:17] risks chilling free speech.

[1:22:21] We thank COUNCILMAN Al Rivera

[1:22:25] for his principled position,

[1:22:26] but we remain deeply concerned

[1:22:27] that this definition is being

[1:22:27] weaponized against those who

[1:22:30] support Palestinian struggles.

[1:22:31] We cannot have the best city in

[1:22:35] the world if certain voices are

[1:22:36] silenced or defined out of

[1:22:40] existence.

[1:22:40] In closing.

[1:22:41] We accept this honor today not

[1:22:42] as a finished goal but as a

[1:22:45] promise.

[1:22:45] It takes two to tango.

[1:22:46] We want to work with you toward

[1:22:50] a more productive, transparent

[1:22:50] and inclusive relationship one

[1:22:51] where Arab Americans are not

[1:22:55] just recognized one month a

[1:22:55] year but protected and

[1:22:58] respected every single day.

[1:23:00] >> Thank you.

[1:23:01] >> Thank you, sir.

[1:23:06] All right.

[1:23:07] >> With that we have a motion

[1:23:11] by Councilmember Foster and a

[1:23:11] second by Councilmember

[1:23:12] Campbell to move

[1:23:12] the proclamation.

[1:23:14] Clerk please call the roll.

[1:23:14] >> I'm sorry.

[1:23:15] The voting system.

[1:23:19] Please cast your vote That

[1:23:19] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with

[1:23:24] Councilmember Moreno Absent.

[1:23:25] >> Thank you, Council

[1:23:25] PRESIDENT.

[1:23:25] All right.

[1:23:26] Thank you.

[1:23:26] With that we'll take a pause

[1:23:27] for photos and we'll start with

[1:23:28] item 31.

[1:23:37] Arab-American Heritage Month

[1:25:37] and

[1:26:07] .

[1:28:08] >> Mm

[1:31:56] .

[1:33:29] >> Uh

[1:33:29] oh.

[1:33:30] All right.

[1:33:37] Thank you, everybody for MR.

[1:33:37] Paley.

[1:33:38] And then we will now proceed

[1:33:38] with the approval of

[1:33:39] the consent item.

[1:33:40] >> Are there any requests to

[1:33:40] pull an item by the council?

[1:33:44] Not seeing any request?

[1:33:44] Clerk please proceed with

[1:33:49] public testimony.

[1:33:49] Thank you.

[1:33:50] Council PRESIDENT Please know

[1:33:50] each speaker will have one

[1:33:53] minute per item per person.

[1:33:54] If you would like to speak on

[1:33:55] three or more items you will

[1:33:56] have a maximum of three

[1:33:56] minutes.

[1:33:59] The consent agenda includes

[1:34:02] items 5100 through 102 and

[1:34:02] s502.

[1:34:03] We did receive comments on

[1:34:08] items for um we did receive

[1:34:08] comments on and I don't have

[1:34:12] the item number 14 in favor via

[1:34:13] our e comment form I will go

[1:34:14] back to my notes to know what

[1:34:17] item that was.

[1:34:17] We do not have any speakers

[1:34:18] here in council chambers.

[1:34:21] I will start the five minute

[1:34:21] timer and go to those

[1:34:22] participating online.

[1:34:25] If you can please make sure you

[1:34:26] let me know which items you

[1:34:27] wish to speak for.

[1:34:27] Speak on for the record.

[1:34:33] Slurpee Men if you can please

[1:34:33] On you.

[1:34:33] >> Hi.

[1:34:34] Right.

[1:34:34] First thank you.

[1:34:35] Thank you for the proclamations

[1:34:35] today.

[1:34:43] I wanted to speak to items 51

[1:34:47] to 1 and s5o2.

[1:34:48] >> You'll have three minutes.

[1:34:48] Please proceed.

[1:34:52] Thank you.

[1:34:56] First to speak to item 54

[1:34:57] Contract with Technology Corps

[1:34:59] for gasb 87 We software This

[1:35:04] software item seems to fit

[1:35:05] nicely into its like real

[1:35:09] estate software lease things

[1:35:10] how those those programs can be

[1:35:14] done well and more efficiently

[1:35:19] It fits in really well to

[1:35:19] the conversation you were

[1:35:20] having yesterday On the future

[1:35:21] of lease agreements in San

[1:35:24] Diego.

[1:35:25] A really interesting issue.

[1:35:25] I'm really interested how that

[1:35:28] can be a full community effort

[1:35:29] that we can all be involved in

[1:35:30] and wanting to work towards

[1:35:34] best goals and practices and

[1:35:34] good luck or helping each other

[1:35:38] towards those ends.

[1:35:39] I think it's important and I

[1:35:40] hope that criticisms can be

[1:35:44] made within that process too

[1:35:45] because I have some that I

[1:35:46] would like to make in those

[1:35:49] good efforts.

[1:35:50] So so thank you for all And to

[1:35:54] also quickly mention yeah I'll

[1:35:55] mention that at public comment

[1:35:58] time I think instead to go on

[1:36:02] to item 1 or 1 which is me

[1:36:07] going slow here supportive

[1:36:07] surplus land mission Bay this

[1:36:12] is an item that you know

[1:36:12] certain council persons have

[1:36:17] been really kind of like hoping

[1:36:18] for and really kind of trying

[1:36:19] to bring in I hope in doing

[1:36:22] that they can develop a

[1:36:23] language and an understanding

[1:36:26] that's clear and not just kind

[1:36:27] of touch a bit of a touch of

[1:36:28] the greed about them and how

[1:36:31] they're talking about this.

[1:36:32] This is really important to

[1:36:36] them in a way and I hope they

[1:36:36] can learn to address it openly

[1:36:41] and not just serving, you know,

[1:36:42] a very specific interest that

[1:36:45] it can serve.

[1:36:46] >> Thanks for hearing me out on

[1:36:51] that issue And for item s five

[1:36:51] o two, you know learning to be

[1:36:54] open and have a broad approach

[1:36:55] to the subject, I think it's

[1:36:56] important to have that good

[1:37:00] luck in those efforts.

[1:37:02] Item 502 Emergency services

[1:37:08] victim a grant Sub Agreement

[1:37:08] Award Sub Award Agreement Thank

[1:37:12] you for this.

[1:37:13] I don't quite know it's detail

[1:37:14] it's a not I.

[1:37:15] I wish I did but just on its

[1:37:17] surface this is a nice little

[1:37:18] thing to have that

[1:37:18] the governor's office is

[1:37:22] allowed this funding to happen

[1:37:23] and it's always needed and it

[1:37:27] seems to be going to a really

[1:37:28] important good purpose and to

[1:37:31] receive money from the state

[1:37:32] for such services we're going

[1:37:32] to be relying much on to figure

[1:37:36] out how to do that well.

[1:37:37] >> So thank you for this sort

[1:37:37] of item.

[1:37:40] Thank you.

[1:37:41] Next is 8700 Again this is just

[1:37:45] on the consent agenda.

[1:37:46] >> If you can please let me

[1:37:47] know which item or items you

[1:37:54] wish to speak to 50 101 and

[1:37:55] excuse me 5502 Thank you.

[1:38:00] Please proceed.

[1:38:07] Senator 3d3 50 from the eoc

[1:38:11] report I g m submitted an e o

[1:38:16] in lieu of a workforce report.

[1:38:17] It also says this staff will

[1:38:21] continue to monitor the firm's

[1:38:25] efforts to implement their eeo

[1:38:26] plan.

[1:38:31] So that's good news.

[1:38:32] I did check Google Google this

[1:38:36] is a small firm so it seems

[1:38:37] appropriate what's happening

[1:38:37] with all those equal

[1:38:41] opportunity efforts.

[1:38:42] So for the first time I started

[1:38:46] looking at the slb dash e l b e

[1:38:49] and the 20% voluntary on this

[1:38:54] item and I didn't go in depth

[1:38:59] yet into it but in Google you

[1:39:00] know looked at the word

[1:39:01] volunteer which is part of this

[1:39:05] so it is voluntary and so just

[1:39:05] a question on that Does

[1:39:08] the volunteering work?

[1:39:09] Does it work to help small

[1:39:10] businesses?

[1:39:10] I certainly hope so.

[1:39:14] I wasn't clear on some parts of

[1:39:15] the staff report and

[1:39:15] the audience yet.

[1:39:19] I say yes to amending this

[1:39:23] software contract to all on one

[1:39:23] on one surplus land.

[1:39:28] Wow that's a hot topic these

[1:39:28] days isn't it?

[1:39:33] And I just we're having some

[1:39:33] good dialog on it and I

[1:39:34] appreciate that so much.

[1:39:37] I wish we could have a real

[1:39:37] conversations around the table

[1:39:42] where everybody gets to share

[1:39:42] their opinions and and

[1:39:46] suggestions on that So but it's

[1:39:47] important work and I think we

[1:39:52] need to do much better work

[1:39:53] with it on affordable housing

[1:39:54] and things like that.

[1:39:56] So it's 502 yes to the grant or

[1:39:57] the Family Justice Center a big

[1:40:01] thank you to all involved at

[1:40:02] the Governor's Office of

[1:40:02] Emergency Services and all

[1:40:06] others involved with this

[1:40:06] grant.

[1:40:10] The grant is $312,500.

[1:40:11] Doesn't that have a nice ring

[1:40:15] to it?

[1:40:15] $312,500.

[1:40:20] It's so appreciated.

[1:40:20] No matching funds are required

[1:40:24] and no cost to the city so

[1:40:25] that's a big win win all over

[1:40:30] the place Live up to all

[1:40:30] the original If you can please

[1:40:31] unmute and let me know which

[1:40:32] item or items you wish to speak

[1:40:33] to.

[1:40:46] Yes 5100 101 That's 502 Thank

[1:40:46] you.

[1:40:46] >> You'll have three minutes.

[1:40:47] The five minute timer did

[1:40:50] conclude there are six speakers

[1:40:51] in the queue and no additional

[1:40:52] speakers will be taken.

[1:40:54] Please proceed.

[1:40:55] So when we're engaging in

[1:40:59] contracts with software and

[1:41:00] entities that are providing

[1:41:01] services with that, you know we

[1:41:04] need to really be careful with

[1:41:05] our data because what happens

[1:41:09] is is these different entities

[1:41:10] across the board will take our

[1:41:14] data and they're investors or

[1:41:15] people or entities like

[1:41:19] Vanguard, BlackRock and you

[1:41:20] know, ones that cannot be

[1:41:24] trusted and you know when we

[1:41:25] know that data is being sold,

[1:41:28] you know there's subscriptions

[1:41:29] I mean that's just kind of

[1:41:29] the way it is.

[1:41:33] Nobody's data is protected

[1:41:33] because there's always going to

[1:41:34] be a third party that comes in

[1:41:37] and has access to it.

[1:41:38] And so I think it's very

[1:41:39] dangerous when it gets into

[1:41:42] the hands of very nefarious

[1:41:43] corporations or entities that

[1:41:43] don't have our best interests

[1:41:47] at heart.

[1:41:48] And so we need to be making

[1:41:49] sure that our data is protected

[1:41:52] and looking into the those that

[1:41:56] are providing these services

[1:41:57] With the conflict of interest

[1:41:58] codes you guys are always, you

[1:42:02] know, waiving these things and

[1:42:02] it's you know, bad for

[1:42:03] business, you know, because

[1:42:06] there's conflicts of interests

[1:42:07] happening on an astronomical

[1:42:11] level and it's very detrimental

[1:42:16] to the people and being able to

[1:42:17] have our money be spent in a,

[1:42:18] you know, manner that is

[1:42:22] actually going to be beneficial

[1:42:22] and not detrimental And then

[1:42:26] anything you guys want to do

[1:42:27] with a surplus land you cannot

[1:42:31] be trusted especially when you

[1:42:32] know you could have built

[1:42:37] housing over you know, a 4902

[1:42:37] Pacific Highway and you guys

[1:42:41] didn't And instead you and Stan

[1:42:42] advised people to come across

[1:42:45] with Jewish Family Services and

[1:42:46] have a bunch of children be

[1:42:50] trafficked in humans and have

[1:42:51] their organs harvested and

[1:42:51] different things like that.

[1:42:54] So no, you shouldn't be doing

[1:42:55] nothing with the surplus land

[1:42:56] Now with the governor's award

[1:42:59] this is very terrifying because

[1:43:00] of what happens with children

[1:43:01] not only in this city,

[1:43:05] the county, the state,

[1:43:05] the nation and the world.

[1:43:10] And you know, it's like from

[1:43:10] the offices of emergency

[1:43:11] services and for Victim

[1:43:14] Services Branch, you know, it's

[1:43:15] like a way to exploit victims

[1:43:16] to get money because everyone's

[1:43:19] always really good at getting

[1:43:20] money Like they have no problem

[1:43:20] with that.

[1:43:21] You guys have no problem with

[1:43:24] that But providing the things

[1:43:25] that needs to be provided and

[1:43:29] actually having the money go to

[1:43:29] what it's supposed do never

[1:43:33] happens And that's what's so

[1:43:34] sad is that you guys always

[1:43:34] fall short in that And this

[1:43:38] center, your safe place cannot

[1:43:39] be trusted And the city

[1:43:43] attorney cannot be trusted when

[1:43:44] you know they've even engage

[1:43:48] with cps and families get their

[1:43:48] children taken And I even know

[1:43:49] women who have gone there and

[1:43:52] have never gotten any help.

[1:43:53] So you know, they incentivize

[1:43:54] getting children taken and then

[1:43:58] those kids go into things like

[1:43:59] the Epstein files So good your

[1:43:59] time has concluded.

[1:44:00] >> Sue Taylor if you can please

[1:44:02] unmute and let me know which

[1:44:03] item or items you wish to speak

[1:44:08] to.

[1:44:09] >> Yes I don't want to one 1I1

[1:44:10] Please proceed.

[1:44:10] You'll have one more.

[1:44:12] Yes.

[1:44:12] Good morning.

[1:44:13] My name is Sue Taylor.

[1:44:16] I submitted a written letter on

[1:44:17] this with more detail that you

[1:44:17] can review but I wanted to

[1:44:21] highlight a few key points here

[1:44:21] .

[1:44:22] The item to exempt Mission Bay

[1:44:23] from surface land is a positive

[1:44:26] and necessary step and I

[1:44:27] appreciate the effort to

[1:44:27] address the issue.

[1:44:28] However, it highlights a

[1:44:31] broader problem The 2020

[1:44:31] changes to the Surplus Land Act

[1:44:32] now treat lease renewals as

[1:44:36] surplus land leasing Public

[1:44:36] land is not the same as selling

[1:44:41] or disposing of it.

[1:44:41] The city retains ownership and

[1:44:42] long term control and should be

[1:44:43] able to lease its land for

[1:44:46] appropriate uses without

[1:44:46] triggering a process intended

[1:44:51] for permanent disposition.

[1:44:51] Mission Bay is the most visible

[1:44:52] example but this also affects

[1:44:53] other city properties like

[1:44:56] Belmore Park, Torrey Pines etc.

[1:44:56] So while this exemption is

[1:45:00] appropriate, a broader fix is

[1:45:01] needed so we don't keep running

[1:45:02] into the same problem on other

[1:45:05] city properties in the future.

[1:45:05] >> Thank you.

[1:45:06] Thank you.

[1:45:06] Next is Andrea Epping.

[1:45:11] If you can please unmute let me

[1:45:11] know which item or items you

[1:45:15] wish to speak to You.

[1:45:16] This is Andrea being I'm going

[1:45:22] to speak to see here

[1:45:26] the conflict of interest 100

[1:45:30] the surplus information bay 121

[1:45:34] and the s5o2 Please proceed.

[1:45:38] >> You have three minutes So so

[1:45:39] on the conflict of interest I'm

[1:45:43] glad that we're coming forward

[1:45:44] with any form of conflict of

[1:45:48] interest in a contract.

[1:45:49] It's really nice to see we have

[1:45:52] so many conflicts of interest

[1:45:53] taking place within the city

[1:45:54] and county at this very moment

[1:45:54] in time.

[1:45:58] So to see one come forward is a

[1:45:59] really good thing.

[1:45:59] We should look at the conflict

[1:46:02] of interest in the addiction

[1:46:03] and homeless services funding

[1:46:07] and grant program and

[1:46:08] the victims on the other side

[1:46:12] of those cases that involve

[1:46:13] those parties.

[1:46:14] We should also look at

[1:46:17] the opioid distribution that is

[1:46:18] rampant and actively taking

[1:46:22] place All also reported by

[1:46:23] these addicts and patients that

[1:46:23] visit these facilities that are

[1:46:24] flown in from all over

[1:46:27] the country then made homeless

[1:46:28] and intentionally made

[1:46:32] continually addicted to

[1:46:33] the drugs so that they return

[1:46:33] to the facilities for more

[1:46:37] money and more kickbacks.

[1:46:38] So that's that The surplus land

[1:46:42] on Mission Bay what a shame if

[1:46:43] we are known for changing that

[1:46:48] landscape we need to protect

[1:46:48] and preserve our area.

[1:46:53] We had a point in time where we

[1:46:53] had a former D.A. Bonnie James

[1:46:54] who was a super corrupt Mafia

[1:46:58] boss who she's the one that

[1:46:58] inserted, inserted and planted

[1:47:02] summer stuff in her role as dea

[1:47:02] illegally.

[1:47:06] And that's because somebody

[1:47:07] that would carry out her

[1:47:07] agenda.

[1:47:08] But I found out that she was

[1:47:11] when she was taking that money

[1:47:12] from the Mexican billionaire

[1:47:17] illegally and somehow was not

[1:47:17] charged for it.

[1:47:21] They wanted to turn the water

[1:47:22] front into South Bay South

[1:47:23] Beach, Miami.

[1:47:23] So they wanted to take our

[1:47:26] landscape and change it And

[1:47:27] that was the goal.

[1:47:27] A whole bunch of bribery,

[1:47:28] corruption and kickbacks

[1:47:31] involved.

[1:47:31] >> And then somehow when that

[1:47:36] came to light a secretary of 27

[1:47:37] years was found dead in her

[1:47:40] home of the da's office found

[1:47:41] dead in her home with her 18

[1:47:42] year old daughter of a drug

[1:47:45] overdose Despite zero history

[1:47:45] of drug use or suicidal

[1:47:46] tendencies are being

[1:47:49] secretaries that know too much

[1:47:50] to turn into Catwoman if you

[1:47:51] would step back and move Also

[1:47:55] this thing about the Family

[1:47:56] Justice Center Casey Quinn, our

[1:47:58] former city attorney started

[1:47:59] the Family Justice Center.

[1:48:00] It is no longer a family

[1:48:00] justice center that follows

[1:48:03] best practices And Mara Elliott

[1:48:08] was one time laundering money

[1:48:08] through it.

[1:48:09] Here is from Public Records, a

[1:48:09] question from the Union-Tribune

[1:48:13] to Mara Elliott.

[1:48:14] Can you tell me what the city

[1:48:14] attorney is directing

[1:48:15] charitable contributions to an

[1:48:17] entity that is no longer

[1:48:18] legally permitted to conduct

[1:48:19] business in the state of

[1:48:22] California?

[1:48:23] >> I went to the Family Justice

[1:48:24] Center after I was strangled,

[1:48:24] had my head split open and my

[1:48:27] children were abducted and they

[1:48:28] turned me away three times.

[1:48:31] My friend works in the homeless

[1:48:32] services industry and they

[1:48:33] don't help them they just give

[1:48:36] them materials Is a money

[1:48:36] laundering facility that's $312

[1:48:37] to be tracked.

[1:48:40] >> Your time has concluded 8813

[1:48:41] If you can please unmute and

[1:48:42] let me know which item or items

[1:48:48] you wish to speak to.

[1:48:48] >> Hi control here So I think

[1:48:52] I'm going to speak on

[1:48:53] definitely the conflicts of

[1:48:58] interest and just touch base on

[1:48:58] a bit of all of them.

[1:49:02] Well my message will you please

[1:49:03] identify the numbers and please

[1:49:06] be sure you're speaking on all

[1:49:07] of the items?

[1:49:08] >> I'm sorry I don't I don't

[1:49:11] have the numbers right in front

[1:49:12] of me but I believe I can talk

[1:49:13] on them.

[1:49:13] But I like I said, I'm going to

[1:49:16] touch base on each one of them.

[1:49:17] But you know the subject

[1:49:18] matters for each one of them to

[1:49:22] be sure I need you to be

[1:49:22] speaking on the item.

[1:49:23] >> How about conflicts of

[1:49:23] interest?

[1:49:24] Okay.

[1:49:24] Thank you.

[1:49:27] Please proceed on conflicts of

[1:49:27] interest.

[1:49:27] Okay.

[1:49:28] Thank you.

[1:49:32] So let's see That in itself is

[1:49:33] Oh she can speak for hours on

[1:49:35] that.

[1:49:36] Okay, so the conflicts of

[1:49:40] interest within our city and

[1:49:41] our county is disgusting And

[1:49:45] the fact that the majority of

[1:49:45] the county have no clue where

[1:49:49] their money's going and and who

[1:49:50] it's benefiting is is a real

[1:49:54] shame.

[1:49:55] And what are the other items?

[1:49:56] I can't name the number but as

[1:49:59] far as the people getting help

[1:50:00] I mean that's what all your

[1:50:00] items are always about, right?

[1:50:03] People getting help and you

[1:50:04] guys pretend like you guys are

[1:50:08] helping but you're really not.

[1:50:09] Again, there's no real

[1:50:13] intention of curing anybody,

[1:50:14] healing anybody helping anyone.

[1:50:18] It's just like a you know, it's

[1:50:18] kind of like big pharma.

[1:50:22] A patient cured is revenue

[1:50:23] lost, you know what I'm saying?

[1:50:24] So there's really never an

[1:50:27] intention to help a person

[1:50:28] entirely.

[1:50:33] I mean you'll have a has

[1:50:33] concluded zoom user if you can

[1:50:34] please zoom you and let me know

[1:50:36] which item or items you wish to

[1:50:41] speak to.

[1:50:42] Henry Heard Thank you.

[1:50:45] I like to speak to 5100 101 and

[1:50:45] 502 Thank you.

[1:50:49] Please proceed on on the 502I

[1:50:54] would say only victim money

[1:50:54] going to American citizens No

[1:50:59] real legal aliens or green card

[1:50:59] guys all need some American

[1:51:00] citizens.

[1:51:01] You need to put that into a lot

[1:51:04] of things and on the 100

[1:51:08] the conflict it's interesting

[1:51:09] now when the mayor when guys

[1:51:09] are cutting budget cuts like

[1:51:13] crazy and the mayor doesn't let

[1:51:14] you guys investigate the books,

[1:51:18] he says you can't have them.

[1:51:18] You should call the fbi on that

[1:51:22] or the doj because that's total

[1:51:22] fraud.

[1:51:23] He doesn't let you look at

[1:51:28] the paperwork is fbi day.

[1:51:32] Listen, this is time to call

[1:51:33] the fbi on the matter and then

[1:51:37] on the land grab people on

[1:51:37] these other common items that

[1:51:38] content agendas are very

[1:51:41] dangerous.

[1:51:42] You guys always try to blow

[1:51:45] things to the consent Then just

[1:51:46] items.

[1:51:46] That's one of the most

[1:51:47] dangerous votes that you guys

[1:51:50] have.

[1:51:51] So we got to end it.

[1:51:54] District nine District we have

[1:51:55] over 900 leases that nobody

[1:52:00] knows where even the money's

[1:52:04] collected yet How far behind So

[1:52:05] and then even the trash thing

[1:52:10] you find out there's 2500 guys

[1:52:11] we're picking up trash What

[1:52:14] they should have been paying

[1:52:15] all along their private

[1:52:16] businesses were doing their

[1:52:19] trash for even know about that

[1:52:20] for decades and picking up guys

[1:52:23] trash and they're not even

[1:52:24] paying for it that everything

[1:52:28] in the city is just like that

[1:52:29] So we forget the software just

[1:52:33] you know yellow pad inch guy in

[1:52:34] each in each council member Who

[1:52:39] were the leases Who are they?

[1:52:39] What are their names?

[1:52:40] Are they current?

[1:52:42] How much of the rent and

[1:52:43] publish it on the website for

[1:52:44] each particular business

[1:52:48] there's 100 in my district.

[1:52:48] I wonder if they're paying or

[1:52:52] we're going to cut the library

[1:52:52] fees because we don't collect

[1:52:53] the rent.

[1:52:57] It's crazy.

[1:52:58] You don't need a computer.

[1:53:01] You need one guy right?

[1:53:01] The guy's name down here is

[1:53:02] the money.

[1:53:06] Otherwise you're out and you

[1:53:06] have to have leases every two

[1:53:10] years at them at the maximum

[1:53:11] every year Everything else in

[1:53:12] the real world is one year

[1:53:15] lease all those high rise

[1:53:16] buildings.

[1:53:16] It's a one year lease.

[1:53:17] One year lease.

[1:53:21] Well that goes there for four

[1:53:21] years without having a lease or

[1:53:25] not pay in and just ignore it.

[1:53:26] You know that's what the city's

[1:53:27] doing.

[1:53:27] They're just ignoring

[1:53:31] the payments 15 year lease that

[1:53:31] one lady was saying one of our

[1:53:34] branches that hasn't been

[1:53:35] renewed in 15 years the same

[1:53:38] rate What's that 100 bucks a

[1:53:39] month instead of like 5000 a

[1:53:39] month?

[1:53:43] You know, it's just it's just

[1:53:43] it's ridiculous.

[1:53:44] It's it's a clown show Instead

[1:53:49] of having a council meeting

[1:53:49] let's call it the clown show

[1:53:50] meeting.

[1:53:53] It's a clown show.

[1:53:54] Your time is concluded.

[1:53:55] Madison if you can please

[1:53:58] unmute let me know which item

[1:53:59] or items you wish to speak to

[1:54:00] And Kathleen Lippert as our

[1:54:03] last caller, I'd like to talk

[1:54:06] to us.

[1:54:07] 502 Please proceed.

[1:54:07] You have one minute.

[1:54:08] Okay.

[1:54:11] So I'd like to express my

[1:54:11] support for items 5o2 and

[1:54:12] the acceptance of funding for

[1:54:15] the San Diego Family Justice

[1:54:16] Center.

[1:54:16] As a mother and community

[1:54:20] member I am deeply grateful for

[1:54:21] programs that support victims

[1:54:22] of domestic violence, abuse and

[1:54:25] trauma.

[1:54:25] The Family Justice Center

[1:54:26] provides a critical centralized

[1:54:27] place where individuals and

[1:54:30] families can access safety

[1:54:30] planning, legal assistance and

[1:54:33] emotional support all in one

[1:54:34] location.

[1:54:34] That kind of coordinated care

[1:54:38] can be life changing and

[1:54:39] importantly when support when

[1:54:43] we support families in crisis

[1:54:43] and create safer, more stable

[1:54:44] home environments, we are also

[1:54:48] helping prevent teen drug use

[1:54:49] and other risky behaviors

[1:54:51] before they begin this $300,000

[1:54:52] grant from California

[1:54:53] Governor's Office of Emergency

[1:54:57] Services comes at no cost to

[1:54:58] the city and it strengthens a

[1:54:58] resource that serves residents

[1:55:02] across all districts.

[1:55:02] This is a meaningful and

[1:55:03] responsible investment in

[1:55:06] public safety and community

[1:55:07] well-being.

[1:55:07] Supporting victims district

[1:55:11] families protects individuals.

[1:55:12] I thank you for that concluding

[1:55:12] comment.

[1:55:13] Kathleen Lippert Please unmute

[1:55:16] Let me know which item or items

[1:55:17] you wish to speak to your final

[1:55:20] Speaker Thank you.

[1:55:21] Items 100 and 102 Conflicts of

[1:55:25] interest And my name is

[1:55:26] Kathleen Lippert.

[1:55:26] Thank you for letting me speak

[1:55:30] Conflicts of interest should

[1:55:31] not be negotiable Had the city

[1:55:35] looked at the sweetheart lease

[1:55:36] that was granted to a former

[1:55:36] city employee for the Glen

[1:55:40] Airport, a public park where

[1:55:41] the fee was getting millions in

[1:55:42] revenues and the lease was

[1:55:45] never updated to reflect its

[1:55:50] true value right item to

[1:55:50] surplus lands.

[1:55:54] Ostensibly it's just a quote

[1:55:58] narrow exemption from the 1962

[1:55:59] Surplus Land Act where Mission

[1:56:02] Day was voted on by two thirds

[1:56:03] vote of qualified electors in

[1:56:07] perpetuity.

[1:56:08] That term in perpetuity should

[1:56:12] be self-explanatory.

[1:56:13] The La Hoya Co with another

[1:56:13] case where Ellen Browning

[1:56:17] Scripps who donated that land

[1:56:18] for children's school not for

[1:56:21] seals Thank you for letting me

[1:56:22] speak.

[1:56:22] Thank you.

[1:56:23] That is going to public comment

[1:56:27] on the consent items.

[1:56:28] >> All right Thank you city

[1:56:28] clerk and over to council

[1:56:31] colleagues for questions

[1:56:32] Comments Entertain a motion and

[1:56:33] we'll start with council member

[1:56:33] Campbell.

[1:56:36] >> Thank you so much Council

[1:56:36] PRESIDENT I would like to move

[1:56:37] the consent items and I would

[1:56:41] like to speak on item 101.

[1:56:42] This is the resolution in

[1:56:46] support of a b 2525 surplus

[1:56:50] Lands Mission Bay Park It is

[1:56:51] important that our city support

[1:56:54] a b 2525 surplus lands and

[1:56:58] Mission Bay Park This is a

[1:56:59] state bill written by my

[1:57:00] Assembly member and former

[1:57:03] colleague who I sat next to

[1:57:04] Chris Ward and sponsored by

[1:57:08] Mayor John Gloria.

[1:57:08] That is why my office has

[1:57:09] brought forward this resolution

[1:57:12] in support of a b 2525 which

[1:57:16] provides important clarity to

[1:57:17] protect Mission Bay Park, a

[1:57:17] park that lies largely within

[1:57:21] District to my district mission

[1:57:22] Bay Park is the largest manmade

[1:57:26] aquatic park in the United

[1:57:26] State.

[1:57:27] It has long been protected as

[1:57:31] dedicated parks base.

[1:57:32] There are several items that

[1:57:36] protected the state Tidelands

[1:57:37] law, the City Charter,

[1:57:37] the Mission Bay Park Master

[1:57:38] plan.

[1:57:41] The voter approved measures all

[1:57:42] make clear that this land must

[1:57:46] remain devoted as a park space

[1:57:47] and that residential

[1:57:50] development is not allowed

[1:57:50] here.

[1:57:51] While the Surplus Land Act

[1:57:55] plays an important role in

[1:57:56] addressing California's housing

[1:57:56] needs, its requirements simply

[1:58:00] do not fit in with places like

[1:58:01] Mission Bay Park or housing is

[1:58:05] prohibited.

[1:58:06] Ab 2325 provides the clarity

[1:58:09] the land within Mission Bay

[1:58:10] Park should not be subject to

[1:58:10] the Surplus Land Act and that

[1:58:14] mission Bay Park must remain a

[1:58:15] protected park for future

[1:58:15] generations.

[1:58:19] And now I call on our State

[1:58:20] Assembly members and senators

[1:58:24] to support this bill and get it

[1:58:24] to the governor's desk for

[1:58:25] signature.

[1:58:25] More specifically, I urge

[1:58:29] the Assembly Local Government

[1:58:30] Committee which is meeting I

[1:58:33] believe tomorrow to pass this

[1:58:34] bill through their committee

[1:58:35] tomorrow at tomorrow's meeting

[1:58:39] supporting this bill means

[1:58:39] respecting the will of San

[1:58:40] Diego voters who have

[1:58:44] repeatedly chosen to safeguard

[1:58:48] the park and the other multiple

[1:58:49] measures that are in the law

[1:58:50] that protect the park.

[1:58:53] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

[1:58:54] >> All right.

[1:58:54] Thank you, Councilmember

[1:58:55] Campbell.

[1:58:59] So we do have a motion by

[1:59:00] Councilmember Campbell to move

[1:59:01] The consent items will go next

[1:59:01] to Councilmember Quan Wolpert

[1:59:04] Thank you.

[1:59:05] I'm happy to second the motion

[1:59:05] and I thank you to DR. Jen for

[1:59:06] your leadership.

[1:59:09] We know we heard it our science

[1:59:09] committee about Mission Bay and

[1:59:10] they get a across ward for his

[1:59:11] leadership as well and

[1:59:13] protecting that vital land and

[1:59:14] space And also congratulations

[1:59:15] to the Family Justice Center,

[1:59:15] your safe place.

[1:59:18] Thank you for all

[1:59:18] the incredible work you're

[1:59:19] doing every day And we're very

[1:59:20] glad to see this grant coming

[1:59:24] in Also the motion.

[1:59:24] >> All right.

[1:59:24] Thank you.

[1:59:25] We have a motion by council

[1:59:26] member Campbell second by

[1:59:26] council member Yvonne Wolpert

[1:59:28] and we'll go next to Council

[1:59:29] Member Campo Thank you Council

[1:59:30] PRESIDENT And I want to thank

[1:59:32] Council Member Campbell for

[1:59:33] bringing the item to committee

[1:59:34] and her work on that as well as

[1:59:37] Assembly Member Ward for

[1:59:38] championing it at the state

[1:59:38] level.

[1:59:39] It was also included in our

[1:59:42] city's state legislative

[1:59:42] lobbying package heard at Eden

[1:59:43] Air and on and by the whole

[1:59:46] council As as it's been said,

[1:59:47] Mission Bay is unique and

[1:59:48] irreplaceable as a public

[1:59:51] resource and should be

[1:59:52] accessible and protected for

[1:59:52] generations to come.

[1:59:55] The reason it is so important

[1:59:56] to have this bill passes

[1:59:57] because of the inherent legal

[2:00:01] the inherent linguistic

[2:00:01] conflict within the Surplus

[2:00:02] Land Act that suggests that we

[2:00:03] have to make a good faith

[2:00:06] negotiation for housing on a

[2:00:07] piece of land that we are

[2:00:07] voters And our mission Bay

[2:00:08] Master Plan says there won't be

[2:00:11] housing.

[2:00:11] So this is a really necessary

[2:00:12] piece of legislation as well.

[2:00:16] I want to thank former council

[2:00:17] member Donna Frye for her

[2:00:17] continued advocacy and

[2:00:18] leadership on this and I will

[2:00:18] be in support.

[2:00:19] Thank you.

[2:00:21] Council PRESIDENT.

[2:00:22] All right.

[2:00:22] Thank you.

[2:00:23] Council member Camp Hill See no

[2:00:25] one else in the lights off for

[2:00:25] just one comment as well

[2:00:26] enjoying everyone and thanking

[2:00:30] council member Campbell for

[2:00:34] bringing the resolution on ab

[2:00:35] 2525 You know one of

[2:00:35] the criticisms we all forget is

[2:00:36] that it's difficult for

[2:00:39] the public to understand what

[2:00:40] we're doing and how we're doing

[2:00:41] it And it's a continuing

[2:00:44] challenge to communicate more

[2:00:45] clearly.

[2:00:45] The Surplus Lands Act I think

[2:00:49] is often misunderstood but this

[2:00:50] assembly bill is incredibly

[2:00:54] important because it does

[2:00:55] create the backstop that

[2:00:56] prevents Sacramento laws from

[2:00:59] overriding what the voters of

[2:01:00] San Diego have done both in

[2:01:04] the charter as well as

[2:01:04] the votes that created

[2:01:05] the Mission Bay Master plan

[2:01:05] going forward.

[2:01:09] So this is just a shield

[2:01:10] against Sacramento overreach in

[2:01:14] trying to prevent what every

[2:01:15] actually everybody has always

[2:01:19] said has always agreed to which

[2:01:19] is Mission Bay is not the place

[2:01:20] for housing.

[2:01:23] We have plenty of opportunity

[2:01:24] to provide the housing that San

[2:01:25] Diegans need not in Mission

[2:01:25] Bay.

[2:01:28] So again thank you Council

[2:01:29] member Campbell and your office

[2:01:30] for bringing this item forward.

[2:01:34] So with that we have a motion

[2:01:34] by Councilmember Campbell and a

[2:01:35] second by council member Vaughn

[2:01:38] Wolpert.

[2:01:39] >> So please call the roll I'm

[2:01:40] sorry the voting system Just to

[2:01:44] clarify for the record is item

[2:01:45] 101 that had 14 in favor via

[2:01:48] our e comment forms that passes

[2:01:48] unanimously 8 to 0 with Council

[2:01:53] member Marino absent Thank you

[2:01:53] Council PRESIDENT All right

[2:01:54] Thank you.

[2:01:55] So here is an opportunity for

[2:01:58] comment from the mayor's

[2:01:59] office, council members, city

[2:01:59] attorney in the budget

[2:02:03] independent budget analyst or

[2:02:03] city clerk not seeing anyone on

[2:02:04] the lights.

[2:02:07] I'll just do a quick thank you

[2:02:08] to the council PRESIDENT Pro

[2:02:09] Tem Lee for taking over

[2:02:12] yesterday's council session.

[2:02:13] I joined a number of service

[2:02:17] providers up in Sacramento

[2:02:18] yesterday to frankly lobby both

[2:02:23] assembly members and Senate of

[2:02:23] state senators for continuation

[2:02:27] of the budget for at least

[2:02:28] the dollar amount in last

[2:02:32] year's budget if not more.

[2:02:32] There's incredible work being

[2:02:33] done in the homeless space.

[2:02:36] We've created a strong

[2:02:37] foundation in terms of

[2:02:37] the action that the mayor's

[2:02:38] brought forward.

[2:02:41] The council supported.

[2:02:42] This is not a time to upset

[2:02:46] that we need funding and we

[2:02:47] need regular funding every

[2:02:47] single year.

[2:02:51] So with that we will now take

[2:02:52] up non agenda public comment.

[2:02:56] Council members respect and

[2:02:56] appreciate the public's input

[2:02:57] and are fully committed to

[2:02:57] protecting every every

[2:03:01] participant's free speech

[2:03:02] rights at council and committee

[2:03:02] meetings Clerk without please

[2:03:07] proceed with knowledge for

[2:03:08] public comment.

[2:03:09] >> Thank you Council President

[2:03:09] Pearl 2.7 a public comment is

[2:03:11] an opportunity for members of

[2:03:12] the public to comment on items

[2:03:13] that are not on the agenda but

[2:03:13] within the subject matter

[2:03:16] jurisdiction of the City

[2:03:16] Council.

[2:03:17] Each speaker will have two

[2:03:17] minutes.

[2:03:18] Please note if there are eight

[2:03:21] or more speakers on a single

[2:03:21] topic the maximum time for

[2:03:22] the topic will be 16 minutes.

[2:03:23] If you are in chambers please

[2:03:26] submit your speaker slip.

[2:03:27] If you're joining us virtually

[2:03:28] please raise your hand to speak

[2:03:30] by tapping the Raise your hand

[2:03:31] icon or if you'll call on

[2:03:32] Participant Star nine Marissa

[2:03:35] Cuevas If you can please come

[2:03:36] up to the microphone.

[2:03:36] After that we have Anton Turek

[2:03:40] and Eric Jensen If you can

[2:03:41] please come up to the yellow

[2:03:42] reserved seats at the front of

[2:03:44] the room.

[2:03:45] You'll have two minutes.

[2:03:45] Please proceed.

[2:03:46] Good evening.

[2:03:48] In 2022 my grandparents voted

[2:03:49] for Measure b which would have

[2:03:53] made the trash fees between $23

[2:03:54] to $29.

[2:03:58] Now I'm here because my

[2:03:59] grandparents can't be.

[2:04:00] My grandma works and my

[2:04:00] grandparents are on a fixed

[2:04:04] income right now.

[2:04:07] But the people approve The 23

[2:04:08] to $29 is not what they're

[2:04:08] being charged.

[2:04:12] In fact the people are being

[2:04:13] charged up to $43 a month

[2:04:17] almost doubled what they were

[2:04:17] told.

[2:04:18] Like I said, my grandparents

[2:04:18] are on a fixed income.

[2:04:22] This is something they have to

[2:04:23] account for and consider when

[2:04:26] they're dealing with their

[2:04:27] personal budget and their own

[2:04:28] finances.

[2:04:31] The extra cost is a real

[2:04:31] concern for the people of this

[2:04:35] city in a city that is already

[2:04:36] so expensive to live in.

[2:04:37] And with cost only going up by

[2:04:40] the day the people do not need

[2:04:41] the city artificially

[2:04:45] increasing or inflating another

[2:04:46] cost they have especially when

[2:04:50] they voted for the 23 to $29

[2:04:50] per month.

[2:04:54] I would say right now I've

[2:04:55] never experienced, you know, my

[2:04:55] day to day life where people

[2:04:59] bring up issues with the city.

[2:05:00] But I do find this particular

[2:05:04] topic as well as the Balboa

[2:05:04] parking fee.

[2:05:05] People are constantly talking

[2:05:05] to me about it.

[2:05:08] You know that they're getting a

[2:05:09] new trash bin despite them just

[2:05:09] paying for a new one or you

[2:05:10] know they're getting these

[2:05:13] services that they don't It

[2:05:13] doesn't seem like there's a

[2:05:17] rhyme or reason as to what's

[2:05:18] happening and that it's

[2:05:18] completely disregarding what

[2:05:22] their current need is.

[2:05:23] For instance, my grandparents

[2:05:24] don't need a large trash bin

[2:05:28] because it's only the two of

[2:05:28] them.

[2:05:29] And you know that's just more

[2:05:29] household to have to bring it

[2:05:30] out to the curb.

[2:05:32] You know, my grandparents are

[2:05:33] older so it is a concern of

[2:05:34] mine And like I said, they

[2:05:34] can't be here because they

[2:05:37] don't have that time to come

[2:05:38] out and give public comment.

[2:05:42] So the city had been saying,

[2:05:42] you know, that they increased

[2:05:43] the charge because they had

[2:05:47] additional fees and revenues.

[2:05:48] >> But I urge you to thank me

[2:05:49] for that concluding comment.

[2:05:55] >> Anton Good afternoon.

[2:06:00] PRESIDENT Kennedy once said

[2:06:01] that an error does not become a

[2:06:04] mistake until you refuse to

[2:06:05] correct it.

[2:06:05] I like this quote because we

[2:06:06] all make errors sometimes in

[2:06:09] our day to day lives.

[2:06:09] Sometimes you leave your keys

[2:06:10] at home.

[2:06:14] Sometimes you forget to put

[2:06:14] your laundry in the dryer and

[2:06:15] sometimes you forget to you

[2:06:19] tell the voters of San Diego

[2:06:20] that if Measure b passes

[2:06:22] the new trash fee would be

[2:06:23] somewhere between 23 and $29

[2:06:24] per month when in reality you

[2:06:28] charge them closer to $43 per

[2:06:28] month.

[2:06:29] The cost of collecting trash is

[2:06:33] projected to increase over

[2:06:34] the next four years even though

[2:06:34] the number of customers

[2:06:38] actually decreased, the initial

[2:06:38] cost of service was projected

[2:06:41] to be $70 million.

[2:06:44] And somehow this number shot up

[2:06:45] to $140 million.

[2:06:46] These numbers simply do not add

[2:06:46] up.

[2:06:50] Just last week Judge Oliver

[2:06:51] said that these projections

[2:06:55] quote appear mathematically

[2:06:55] counterintuitive and raise a

[2:06:56] triable issue of fact that

[2:07:00] the projections MAY be based on

[2:07:00] faulty assumptions rather than

[2:07:01] actual costs.

[2:07:05] These increased fees lose on

[2:07:05] paper.

[2:07:06] We have all seen what's been

[2:07:07] going on with the parking at

[2:07:10] Balboa Park and this trash fee

[2:07:11] is unfortunately just another

[2:07:12] symptom of the city's

[2:07:15] mismanagement of the budget.

[2:07:16] You're in the middle of

[2:07:17] drafting the budget right now.

[2:07:20] You have a real chance here to

[2:07:21] correct an error before it

[2:07:21] becomes a mistake And more

[2:07:24] money and more time gets

[2:07:25] wasted.

[2:07:28] The people of San Diego voted

[2:07:29] for 23 to $29 and they would be

[2:07:32] happy with 23 to $29.

[2:07:32] >> Thank you.

[2:07:35] Thank you.

[2:07:40] Next we have Eric Jensen.

[2:07:41] >> Hello, Council.

[2:07:42] I'm here to speak about

[2:07:45] the trash fee because at this

[2:07:46] point this is about more than

[2:07:47] sanitation.

[2:07:50] It's about trust.

[2:07:51] After San Diego voters accepted

[2:07:55] the measure b trash fee,

[2:07:56] the city's numbers came back

[2:07:57] far higher than the public had

[2:08:00] been led to expect.

[2:08:03] What was presented is roughly

[2:08:04] 23 to $29 per month became fees

[2:08:07] as high as $43.60 per month.

[2:08:07] These fees are expected to

[2:08:11] continue to rise quickly

[2:08:12] growing to a monthly fee that

[2:08:13] exceeds twice as much as what

[2:08:17] voters agreed to pay.

[2:08:18] And now a court has said that

[2:08:18] there are serious questions

[2:08:22] about how the city arrived at

[2:08:22] these figures.

[2:08:23] Serious enough for a lawsuit to

[2:08:23] go to trial.

[2:08:26] The court pointed to a basic

[2:08:31] problem How can the city

[2:08:31] project fewer households

[2:08:32] receiving trash service yet

[2:08:36] still project costs so much

[2:08:36] higher than what voters were

[2:08:37] allowed to expect?

[2:08:41] The court said quote This

[2:08:41] disconnect creates a

[2:08:46] fundamental analytical problem

[2:08:46] .

[2:08:47] San Diego is are hearing all of

[2:08:47] this in the context of

[2:08:50] everything else They've already

[2:08:50] been asked to absorb budget

[2:08:51] shortfalls, rising fees, higher

[2:08:55] parking costs and growing

[2:08:56] financial pressure.

[2:08:56] >> Residents understand that

[2:08:59] the city faces financial

[2:09:00] challenges but they should not

[2:09:01] be asked to carry the burden of

[2:09:05] mistakes Poor planning or

[2:09:05] financial decisions that they

[2:09:06] did not make.

[2:09:09] The city of San Diego cannot

[2:09:10] afford to keep losing

[2:09:11] the public trust this way.

[2:09:14] At a time when confidence in

[2:09:15] public institutions is already

[2:09:16] fragile, the city should be

[2:09:16] doing everything it can to

[2:09:20] restore that trust.

[2:09:21] Now we can in the city can

[2:09:21] start by making this right and

[2:09:25] honoring what voters agreed to

[2:09:25] pay.

[2:09:26] Thank you.

[2:09:26] I'm sorry.

[2:09:29] In the five minute time we're

[2:09:30] here in council chambers going

[2:09:30] to those participating

[2:09:30] remotely.

[2:09:33] Currently have ten callers in

[2:09:36] the queue When the 5 minutes to

[2:09:37] 5 minute timer concludes.

[2:09:38] Additional callers will be

[2:09:38] taken The original If you can

[2:09:41] please unmute.

[2:09:42] >> Point of order I would like

[2:09:46] to request the extra two

[2:09:46] minutes from last week that was

[2:09:47] robbed from the people during

[2:09:51] non agenda when the board

[2:09:52] negligently had no quorum and

[2:09:59] was taken over by me using

[2:09:59] Robert's Rules of order.

[2:10:00] >> Are you willing to make that

[2:10:00] comment?

[2:10:03] But we will kindly disagree.

[2:10:03] >> All right.

[2:10:04] You would disagree.

[2:10:08] See that's the problem is that

[2:10:08] you guys didn't have a quorum

[2:10:13] last meeting.

[2:10:14] You actually disenfranchize

[2:10:14] the people by not allowing them

[2:10:18] to speak during that meeting

[2:10:19] And you haven't been making it

[2:10:23] up since as shown right now And

[2:10:24] I invoked Robert's Rules of

[2:10:27] order and you have nothing in

[2:10:28] your budget policy or in

[2:10:29] the Brown Act that would

[2:10:33] determine what to do in a place

[2:10:33] like that.

[2:10:37] So you kept telling me I made

[2:10:37] my point.

[2:10:38] I made my point which I did and

[2:10:39] you were terrified about.

[2:10:43] That's why you were acting

[2:10:43] selfishly And I have it on tape

[2:10:46] and I should be in charge of

[2:10:47] that council.

[2:10:48] So it's very sad to see what

[2:10:51] you guys do.

[2:10:52] How much fraud, waste and abuse

[2:10:53] you engage in.

[2:10:54] I mean you can't even pay

[2:10:57] attention and know when you do

[2:10:58] or when you don't have a quorum

[2:10:58] because you continued

[2:11:01] the business until I said

[2:11:02] something Whether or not you

[2:11:06] saw it you still allowed

[2:11:06] the meeting to continue until I

[2:11:07] invoked Robert's Rules of Order

[2:11:11] and said I would like to take

[2:11:12] over the council.

[2:11:12] Then you kept then you

[2:11:15] pretended that you saw it and

[2:11:16] oh no, now we have to adjourn.

[2:11:17] And then you kept saying I made

[2:11:20] my point to the point of being

[2:11:21] disruptive and you sent

[2:11:21] the police out to me.

[2:11:25] That's how scared you were

[2:11:26] about what I did Because every

[2:11:29] look on your guys's face was

[2:11:30] terrified because you know what

[2:11:31] I did was legit And outside of

[2:11:34] that you know that you

[2:11:35] disenfranchize all of

[2:11:36] the people that were waiting to

[2:11:39] speak because you guys can't be

[2:11:40] there to do your job.

[2:11:41] But what you can do is get

[2:11:44] money.

[2:11:45] You're always good at that But

[2:11:45] when it has anything to do with

[2:11:49] the people or holding true to

[2:11:49] what is actually happening

[2:11:50] which is me taking over that

[2:11:54] council, you tried to bury it

[2:11:55] under the rug just like

[2:11:55] everything else that you guys

[2:11:59] do.

[2:11:59] Barbara Gordon Your next

[2:12:00] speaker if you can please

[2:12:00] unmute.

[2:12:03] Good afternoon.

[2:12:04] I am a public health advocate

[2:12:08] with so many needs in the city

[2:12:09] and with the budget shortage I

[2:12:09] respectfully request the city

[2:12:13] to not implement the cannabis

[2:12:13] social equity program.

[2:12:18] This program is not sustained

[2:12:18] over the long term without

[2:12:19] impacting the already strained

[2:12:23] city resources.

[2:12:23] San Diego already has 38

[2:12:24] marijuana businesses.

[2:12:27] Why are we looking to expand

[2:12:28] the number of businesses which

[2:12:32] will be a burden to

[2:12:33] marginalized communities in

[2:12:34] the name of social equity as

[2:12:37] the city struggles with

[2:12:38] homelessness, many peer review

[2:12:41] studies show that marijuana use

[2:12:42] contributes to drug abuse and

[2:12:43] addiction which is the leading

[2:12:47] cause of homelessness.

[2:12:47] The latest National Survey on

[2:12:51] Drug Use and Health estimate

[2:12:51] 32% of the 62 million test

[2:12:56] marijuana users 12 years and

[2:12:57] older in America have cannabis

[2:13:01] use disorder.

[2:13:01] The profit driven marijuana

[2:13:02] industry continues to produce

[2:13:05] and promote stronger products

[2:13:06] that are addicting millions and

[2:13:10] just and disrupting their

[2:13:11] lives.

[2:13:11] Published in the Journal of

[2:13:15] American Medical Association

[2:13:16] health form said marijuana use

[2:13:17] is though is linked to

[2:13:21] the doubling risk of psychotic

[2:13:21] and bipolar disorder.

[2:13:22] I urge this Council to not

[2:13:26] prioritize this industry over

[2:13:26] the many needs of the city.

[2:13:31] Your focus and responsibility

[2:13:31] are public health and safety

[2:13:35] not advocating for more

[2:13:36] marijuana businesses in

[2:13:36] the city.

[2:13:40] Thank you for letting me speak

[2:13:40] .

[2:13:41] >> Our finalists Our next

[2:13:42] speaker is Becky Rob.

[2:13:45] Please unmute.

[2:13:46] >> Good afternoon.

[2:13:47] My name is Becky Rapp and I'm

[2:13:50] here today to raise also raise

[2:13:51] concerns regarding the proposed

[2:13:54] such socially equitable

[2:13:55] cannabis program and what

[2:13:56] appears to be a looming

[2:13:59] financial disaster for the city

[2:14:00] if it's implemented.

[2:14:00] We need to look honestly at

[2:14:04] the city's existing framework.

[2:14:05] San Diego has already issued

[2:14:05] dozens of permits yet a

[2:14:09] significant number of those

[2:14:10] operators have never opened

[2:14:10] their doors.

[2:14:14] That's not a sign of a healthy

[2:14:14] system and it's more of a

[2:14:15] warning that something isn't

[2:14:19] working out.

[2:14:20] The reality is that opening a

[2:14:20] marijuana business in San Diego

[2:14:24] is extremely difficult and

[2:14:24] expensive.

[2:14:25] Between permitting costs,

[2:14:29] regulatory compliance, real

[2:14:29] estate security and ongoing

[2:14:33] taxes, many operators simply

[2:14:34] cannot make the numbers work.

[2:14:35] Even well-funded applicants

[2:14:38] struggle to get to opening day.

[2:14:39] So why are we proposing to add

[2:14:43] more permits when the current

[2:14:44] system is already struggling?

[2:14:47] Tomorrow the mayor the mayor's

[2:14:48] budget will be released and it

[2:14:49] will reflect the priorities of

[2:14:49] this governing body.

[2:14:53] After the very concerning

[2:14:53] conversations just yesterday

[2:14:54] surrounding lease agreements

[2:14:57] and financial obligations,

[2:14:58] the document will be especially

[2:15:02] telling of the mayor's

[2:15:02] priorities.

[2:15:03] There's no denying that

[2:15:06] permitting marijuana businesses

[2:15:07] have become costly for the city

[2:15:08] staff time administrative

[2:15:11] overhead program, development

[2:15:12] enforcement and potential

[2:15:16] subsidies that all come at a

[2:15:16] cost.

[2:15:17] So I urge this council to pause

[2:15:21] this effort and direct staff to

[2:15:22] provide a full financial and

[2:15:26] operational analysis including

[2:15:27] the performance of existing

[2:15:27] marijuana businesses.

[2:15:33] Thank you.

[2:15:33] Next is Madison.

[2:15:37] If you can please unmute.

[2:15:38] I thank you for the opportunity

[2:15:39] to speak again today.

[2:15:42] I just wanted to briefly follow

[2:15:43] up on the issue of thc and road

[2:15:47] safety because it highlights a

[2:15:47] serious gap we cannot ignore

[2:15:51] even with growing concerns

[2:15:52] about marijuana impaired

[2:15:52] driving.

[2:15:56] We still do not have a reliable

[2:15:57] or widely accepted way to

[2:15:58] measure real time impairment on

[2:16:01] the roadside.

[2:16:02] A recent federally funded study

[2:16:03] is now working toward a thc

[2:16:07] breathalyzer but it's still in

[2:16:08] early stages more of a proof of

[2:16:11] concept and not something law

[2:16:12] enforcement can depend on yet.

[2:16:13] At the same time, federal

[2:16:16] agencies acknowledge that thc

[2:16:17] levels don't clearly correlate

[2:16:21] with impairment like alcohol

[2:16:21] does.

[2:16:22] So we are expanding access to a

[2:16:25] substance that impairs reaction

[2:16:26] time and judgment without

[2:16:26] having the tools to

[2:16:31] consistently detect or deter

[2:16:31] impaired driving.

[2:16:35] That is a public safety risk.

[2:16:36] More storefronts would mean

[2:16:36] increased normalization

[2:16:40] increased use and inevitably

[2:16:41] more drivers on the road under

[2:16:44] the influence.

[2:16:45] Especially in a city as large

[2:16:49] and car dependent as San Diego

[2:16:50] .

[2:16:50] It's irresponsible to continue

[2:16:51] promoting the sale of mind

[2:16:54] altering drugs when they have

[2:16:55] real world consequences for

[2:16:55] the majority of people who

[2:16:59] choose not to use them.

[2:16:59] The impairment is clearly real

[2:17:00] and has had plenty of research

[2:17:04] proving it makes drivers

[2:17:04] unsafe.

[2:17:05] If we cannot even reliably

[2:17:08] measure the level of impairment

[2:17:09] we cannot effectively enforce

[2:17:10] against it and that puts every

[2:17:11] family on the road at greater

[2:17:14] risk.

[2:17:14] I urge you to pause and

[2:17:15] reconsider any expansion with a

[2:17:19] c program that moves faster

[2:17:20] than our ability to protect

[2:17:20] public safety.

[2:17:24] Please prioritize as

[2:17:24] the well-being of our

[2:17:25] communities and think carefully

[2:17:26] about the real world

[2:17:29] consequences.

[2:17:30] >> Thank you.

[2:17:30] Thank you.

[2:17:31] The five minute timer had

[2:17:31] concluded and six people are in

[2:17:32] the queue.

[2:17:34] No additional speakers will be

[2:17:34] taken.

[2:17:35] Peggy Walker If you can please

[2:17:38] unmute.

[2:17:39] >> Thank you.

[2:17:41] A council city budget deficit

[2:17:42] at 129 million.

[2:17:43] I wonder that the marijuana

[2:17:47] industry is the biggest con

[2:17:48] since big tobacco gets away

[2:17:52] with blatantly false medical

[2:17:52] claims and tax free so-called

[2:17:56] medical sales.

[2:17:57] A considerable part of

[2:17:58] dispensary marijuana sales are

[2:18:02] for pain and anxiety.

[2:18:03] At the same time, major medical

[2:18:07] institutions including Harvard

[2:18:07] ,Cleveland and Mayo Clinic's

[2:18:11] among others have debunked

[2:18:12] industry medical claims stating

[2:18:16] their research shows slim to no

[2:18:17] evidence that dispensary smoked

[2:18:21] or ingested weed has any

[2:18:22] medical benefit at all.

[2:18:26] So why allow this industry to

[2:18:27] continue the medical marijuana

[2:18:28] myth in the first place and to

[2:18:31] do so without taxation when

[2:18:32] legitimate over the counter

[2:18:36] meds like aspirin are taxed?

[2:18:37] There's no fda approval of

[2:18:41] dispensary pot for any medical

[2:18:41] condition.

[2:18:42] While there are prescription

[2:18:46] based cannabis myths like about

[2:18:47] Epidiolex.

[2:18:51] These have gone through fda

[2:18:52] pharmaceutical protocols.

[2:18:52] They do not cause a high and

[2:18:56] should never be conflated with

[2:18:57] dispensary pot.

[2:19:01] The fact is the moniker medical

[2:19:02] marijuana is a political feint

[2:19:03] that allowed the industry to

[2:19:06] boost sales and achieve

[2:19:07] widespread commercialization.

[2:19:11] I know a medical cardholder who

[2:19:11] was given quote medical

[2:19:16] marijuana for anxiety caused by

[2:19:17] driving while high.

[2:19:21] This is insanity.

[2:19:21] Consider that alcohol and

[2:19:22] tobacco are used if one wisely

[2:19:27] for anxiety to but are taxed.

[2:19:28] >> All dispensary All

[2:19:32] dispensary Marijuana should be

[2:19:33] highly taxed without exception

[2:19:37] and part ways should be highly

[2:19:37] taxed too.

[2:19:38] Thank you.

[2:19:42] Thank you.

[2:19:43] >> Next is Andrea.

[2:19:44] I think if you can please

[2:19:44] unmute.

[2:19:46] Hi this is Andrea Ebbing.

[2:19:48] First thing I want to say is we

[2:19:48] need to have a working

[2:19:52] functional lights and cameras

[2:19:53] at a rec center where children

[2:19:56] are.

[2:19:57] We should also have police

[2:19:58] officers who are allowed able

[2:20:01] to control themselves from

[2:20:02] beating women in front of 40

[2:20:06] children at those parks But of

[2:20:07] course without cameras working

[2:20:08] we have to rely on the children

[2:20:11] who are recording that beating

[2:20:12] brutal beating.

[2:20:13] But I did want to say I just

[2:20:17] made a finding that everyone

[2:20:17] should pay very close attention

[2:20:18] to.

[2:20:18] There is a site called

[2:20:22] Transparent California dot com

[2:20:22] that gives financial

[2:20:23] information off the tax records

[2:20:27] of city and county employees

[2:20:28] And everybody's concerned about

[2:20:29] the trash fees.

[2:20:32] But we need to know as a

[2:20:33] community San Diego somebody in

[2:20:37] the city office or county

[2:20:38] office is manipulating these

[2:20:39] transparent California records

[2:20:39] as if nobody can go back on

[2:20:43] the weight Wayback machine and

[2:20:44] find all the data that's been

[2:20:44] removed.

[2:20:45] But Kenneth Biggers Kenneth

[2:20:48] Biggers, District Rescue's

[2:20:49] collection supervisor, is one

[2:20:53] of the 103 city employees that

[2:20:54] I found to have zero regular

[2:20:58] pay that's zero salary.

[2:21:03] However, he has $146,000 in

[2:21:04] other pay and for total pay and

[2:21:08] benefits $288,000 for the year

[2:21:08] 2024.

[2:21:12] Again, zero pay their money

[2:21:13] laundering and they did this

[2:21:17] trash thing on the back of

[2:21:17] other pay.

[2:21:18] So they're manipulating things.

[2:21:19] This is corruption You are

[2:21:22] witnessing public corruption.

[2:21:23] And when I brought this up

[2:21:24] before somebody went back and

[2:21:28] they scrambled and they had it

[2:21:29] removed but I have screenshots

[2:21:31] of everything I exported

[2:21:32] the data I have the 103

[2:21:33] employees that make $0 and

[2:21:37] the Luna and Cheryl Looney

[2:21:38] making $397,000 of other pay

[2:21:41] for a total of $500,000.

[2:21:42] As an admin we are a budget

[2:21:46] deficit because of the money

[2:21:47] laundering and pay payroll tax

[2:21:53] included It when three if you

[2:21:54] can please and you after that

[2:22:02] Ontarians getting 81 38813 If

[2:22:02] you count on me for yours I

[2:22:03] can't Omeo for you.

[2:22:05] There you go.

[2:22:05] >> Okay thank you Consuelo

[2:22:06] here.

[2:22:10] So yeah I just kind of wanted

[2:22:14] to point out well actually to

[2:22:14] the first speaker who mentioned

[2:22:15] about there's no reason or

[2:22:20] rhyme there actually is a

[2:22:20] reason for their rhyme.

[2:22:21] It's because they do not work

[2:22:24] for the people of San Diego.

[2:22:25] They work for globalists

[2:22:29] Remember this.

[2:22:30] Things they do that don't make

[2:22:35] sense to us here locally

[2:22:35] because they're following

[2:22:36] orders from the ones who are

[2:22:40] truly calling the shots And

[2:22:45] they you know over the years,

[2:22:46] especially these past 5 or 6

[2:22:46] years they've moved well

[2:22:51] they're moving in high speed

[2:22:56] But these are the latest I mean

[2:22:57] since covid.

[2:22:57] But prior to that they were

[2:22:58] moving incrementally.

[2:23:01] You know, in order to establish

[2:23:02] these ideas like roundabouts

[2:23:06] and you know,

[2:23:07] the implementation of these

[2:23:12] unsafe and equitable bike lanes

[2:23:13] that are only being utilized by

[2:23:14] you know, like I always say

[2:23:18] the crackheads because that's

[2:23:19] true We all see using those

[2:23:22] bike lanes and they're not safe

[2:23:23] .

[2:23:23] They will continue to penalize

[2:23:24] drivers even more in

[2:23:24] the future.

[2:23:28] We are currently just

[2:23:28] experiencing that right now

[2:23:29] the high gas speed limit lanes

[2:23:33] and paying for parking

[2:23:34] everywhere But what's coming

[2:23:35] down the line is even worse.

[2:23:35] Unfortunately our younger

[2:23:39] generations are being

[2:23:40] influenced by propaganda of

[2:23:44] the carbon crisis and global

[2:23:45] warming.

[2:23:45] Yet you know we keep seeing

[2:23:50] that our seashore hasn't

[2:23:50] changed in decades.

[2:23:51] It remains the same.

[2:23:52] They continue to use fear to

[2:23:56] control the people.

[2:23:57] I mean talk about con, you know

[2:23:57] and unfortunately the people

[2:24:01] are too busy to pay attention

[2:24:01] to this racket called

[2:24:02] government local and federal

[2:24:07] and state All of them And but

[2:24:08] the silver lining is just exist

[2:24:14] And those people who voted for

[2:24:14] it like you said the time has

[2:24:15] concluded during And Scully, if

[2:24:20] you can please unmute.

[2:24:21] >> Good afternoon San Diego

[2:24:21] City Council My name is

[2:24:26] Terrence Gilliam, a parent and

[2:24:27] a planning group member who

[2:24:27] advocates for financial

[2:24:31] policies that enhance good

[2:24:31] public health and safety.

[2:24:32] Today I'd like to draw

[2:24:33] attention to the city tobacco's

[2:24:36] retailers Licensure Program

[2:24:37] ordinance and the associated

[2:24:41] enforcement efforts associated

[2:24:42] with it.

[2:24:43] As a parent I applaud your

[2:24:43] efforts to reduce tobacco

[2:24:48] product sales to those under

[2:24:48] the age of 21 and to remove

[2:24:49] unauthorized tobacco products

[2:24:53] from the shelves like illegal

[2:24:54] flavored tobacco products and

[2:24:58] prosecute those who sell it to

[2:24:58] them.

[2:24:59] This is money well spent

[2:25:04] recently in a school campus

[2:25:04] newsletter, a teen reporter

[2:25:05] wrote this and I quote The Vape

[2:25:09] and Smoke shop is exposing

[2:25:10] students to vapes along with

[2:25:10] several unapproved and possibly

[2:25:15] dangerous drugs And it is to

[2:25:15] near my school.

[2:25:15] End quote.

[2:25:16] Opening a smoke shop next to a

[2:25:21] school is unfair especially

[2:25:21] considering that schools

[2:25:22] already struggle with students

[2:25:26] vaping on campus.

[2:25:27] I feel we owe it to these

[2:25:28] students to take action for

[2:25:32] these students to see us take

[2:25:33] action and make sure that it

[2:25:33] will be easy for residents

[2:25:37] parents and school

[2:25:38] administrators to file a

[2:25:38] complaint with the city.

[2:25:43] Perhaps the city's public

[2:25:44] relations department or media

[2:25:44] could serve us all by providing

[2:25:49] the information for filing

[2:25:49] complaints.

[2:25:50] Thank you for your funding

[2:25:54] enforcement actions that affirm

[2:25:55] our city's commitment to

[2:25:56] healthy and safe young adults.

[2:26:01] Thank you for hearing my

[2:26:01] concerns this afternoon.

[2:26:02] Thank you.

[2:26:02] Blair Beckerman If you can

[2:26:04] please unmute and then 8700 or

[2:26:10] a final speaker.

[2:26:10] All right.

[2:26:11] Thank you.

[2:26:15] Blair Beekman I wanted to do

[2:26:15] housecleaning items today.

[2:26:20] And I guess first of all I was

[2:26:20] at the meeting last week with

[2:26:21] the ira at the end of

[2:26:21] the meeting.

[2:26:25] I interesting comments she

[2:26:26] offered I put her words down to

[2:26:31] a letter to yourselves in

[2:26:32] overall practices we can do

[2:26:32] when that sort of item happens

[2:26:33] again.

[2:26:33] There's a bunch of issues about

[2:26:37] quorum We have to be better

[2:26:38] addressing that I tried to

[2:26:38] address in a letter.

[2:26:39] I hope you can read and we can

[2:26:42] go over.

[2:26:42] It's important.

[2:26:43] We have to have quorum in

[2:26:43] the future.

[2:26:48] You guys can't be We have to

[2:26:48] coordinate it.

[2:26:49] You can't be ducking out in so

[2:26:53] many numbers such large numbers

[2:26:54] that you have.

[2:26:54] We have to coordinate that

[2:26:55] better read the letter and

[2:26:56] understand what we could be

[2:26:56] doing.

[2:26:59] Other items?

[2:27:00] Yeah, a whole bunch of stuff I

[2:27:01] talked about other items to

[2:27:05] think about.

[2:27:05] The pib had a really

[2:27:06] interesting monthly meeting

[2:27:11] last week Thursday that I hope

[2:27:11] you can review some of

[2:27:12] the items talked about today.

[2:27:17] Just basic stuff on you know

[2:27:18] internal housekeeping stuff for

[2:27:18] your accounting issues.

[2:27:23] They talked about it was a

[2:27:24] really interesting session and

[2:27:24] I think it set a good course

[2:27:28] how we what to expect and how

[2:27:28] we could be working in 2026

[2:27:29] towards best practices of tech

[2:27:30] accountability.

[2:27:34] So I really invite yourselves

[2:27:34] to review that meeting and get

[2:27:35] a sense of what's really

[2:27:39] the questions being asked by

[2:27:40] community what's being worked

[2:27:40] on.

[2:27:41] Thank you.

[2:27:42] Public comment yesterday about

[2:27:46] housing issues.

[2:27:47] There's a house that you're

[2:27:47] going on in downtown.

[2:27:51] That person you know wants to

[2:27:52] be addressed.

[2:27:53] We have to start addressing

[2:27:53] those things again in good

[2:27:58] terms and not horrible terms.

[2:27:59] Good luck What we can be doing

[2:28:03] towards those ends It's a

[2:28:03] community effort towards

[2:28:04] healing Good luck And in doing

[2:28:09] that and Councilperson John

[2:28:09] Wolpert thanks for her words

[2:28:14] today and for everybody's words

[2:28:15] thank you in 700 her final

[2:28:25] speaker Thank you City clerk 28

[2:28:26] joy Senator first a quick shout

[2:28:31] out before I speak on

[2:28:32] the budget Shout out to MR.

[2:28:36] Capshaw your appointment to

[2:28:37] the audit committee as public

[2:28:43] member is very good news.

[2:28:43] Thank you to everyone involved

[2:28:44] in that.

[2:28:44] Okay.

[2:28:49] And the budget.

[2:28:49] Easy to do My favorite likes

[2:28:55] that So easy to do what I'm

[2:28:55] willing to cut.

[2:29:01] I find it's not easy to cut

[2:29:02] because I'm not in the position

[2:29:06] and the public can see

[2:29:07] the necessary big picture.

[2:29:08] I thought I understood core

[2:29:13] services and then I learned of

[2:29:14] mandated core services Your

[2:29:18] public take a look at that if

[2:29:23] you need to mandated core

[2:29:24] services that is part of

[2:29:30] the detailed big picture I'm

[2:29:31] not for now so I am keeping it

[2:29:35] simple now they're public and

[2:29:36] everyone else Each day that I

[2:29:37] am involved you get our city

[2:29:41] government.

[2:29:41] I look for opportunities where

[2:29:48] I can get better at what I do

[2:29:49] and where city I also look

[2:29:53] where our city and staff can

[2:29:54] also get better at what they

[2:29:54] do.

[2:29:59] That's called getting better

[2:30:00] together One people, one family

[2:30:04] member I added one family I

[2:30:05] love that one.

[2:30:11] San Diego love to all Thank

[2:30:11] you.

[2:30:12] That does conclude the public

[2:30:13] comment for this meeting.

[2:30:16] You raise your hand after

[2:30:16] the five minute timer you can

[2:30:17] submit Speak your comments to

[2:30:19] City clerk at San diego.Gov and

[2:30:20] they will be distributed.

[2:30:21] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[2:30:21] right thank you City Clerk With

[2:30:22] that we will now adjourn for

[2:30:26] the noon recess and reconvene

[2:30:26] open session at 2 P.M. Or

[2:34:28] shortly thereafter

[2:36:29] And

[2:39:16] then

[2:39:56] .

[2:40:00] >> All right.

[2:40:01] Good afternoon.

[2:40:02] I will now reconvene the city

[2:40:02] council meeting of Tuesday,

[2:40:04] APRIL 14th, 2026.

[2:40:05] >> clerk Please call the roll.

[2:40:06] Thank you.

[2:40:10] Council PRESIDENT Council

[2:40:11] Member Campbell here Council

[2:40:11] Member Whitburn here.

[2:40:15] Council Member Foster Council

[2:40:16] Member Von Wilpert Council

[2:40:19] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Council

[2:40:20] Member Campion Council Member

[2:40:24] Moreno Council Member Ella

[2:40:24] Rivera and Council PRESIDENT

[2:40:30] LaCava.

[2:40:31] Thank you Clerk.

[2:40:32] A quorum is now Oh you want to

[2:40:33] truth Why don't you just say

[2:40:34] here Oh here.

[2:40:35] Assistant City Attorney Leslie

[2:40:35] Fitzgerald also attending

[2:40:39] the meeting independent budget

[2:40:39] analyst Charles Mollica,

[2:40:40] Council Affairs Advisor in

[2:40:41] the Mayor's office, code

[2:40:44] advisor and myself your city

[2:40:45] clerk Diana Fuentes.

[2:40:45] Thank you.

[2:40:46] Council PRESIDENT Sorry.

[2:40:46] All right.

[2:40:46] Now that was my bad.

[2:40:48] A quorum is now present with

[2:40:49] that clerk.

[2:40:52] >> Please introduce item f50

[2:40:53] six items 5o6 is a salary

[2:40:56] ordinance for fiscal year 2027.

[2:40:57] If you'd like to speak on this

[2:40:58] item please be sure to submit

[2:41:01] your speaker slip to the front

[2:41:01] of the room in the clear box If

[2:41:02] you are participating remotely

[2:41:05] now's the time to raise your

[2:41:06] hand by pressing Star nine or

[2:41:07] the raise your hand icon.

[2:41:10] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[2:41:10] right Well staff when you

[2:41:14] settle in please introduce

[2:41:15] yourself for the record and

[2:41:15] then let us know how much time

[2:41:35] you need.

[2:41:35] Good afternoon.

[2:41:36] Council PRESIDENT And council

[2:41:36] members.

[2:41:37] I'm Abby Darrell Wells, Deputy

[2:41:39] Director in the Human Resources

[2:41:39] Department.

[2:41:40] With me today is director Julie

[2:41:44] Rascoe, Deputy Director John

[2:41:44] Trigger Eric Hansen Senior

[2:41:48] Human Resources Officer.

[2:41:49] Also with us today are several

[2:41:50] members of the Salary Ordinance

[2:41:54] Committee Kota Visor from

[2:41:55] the mayor's office Rolando

[2:41:57] Serval Chief Financial officer

[2:41:58] Chief Melendez from the fire

[2:41:58] Rescue department.

[2:41:59] Tom Brady from the city

[2:41:59] attorney's office.

[2:42:03] Lisa Burns from the Abby's

[2:42:03] office, Cornell Allen from

[2:42:04] the risk management department.

[2:42:07] Chrystia Davis from

[2:42:08] the personnel department and

[2:42:09] Chris Purcell from the Finance

[2:42:12] Department are presentations

[2:42:12] about eight minutes We're here

[2:42:15] today to present the fiscal

[2:42:16] year 2027 salary ordinance

[2:42:17] Before we begin our

[2:42:21] presentation we wanted to note

[2:42:21] that there were some

[2:42:22] clarifications made to

[2:42:22] the staff report salary

[2:42:26] ordinance attachment to an

[2:42:27] exhibit c, f, g and h to

[2:42:31] reflect working title updates

[2:42:31] which we'll walk through during

[2:42:32] the presentation and copies

[2:42:36] have been provided to you.

[2:42:37] I will now turn it over to Eric

[2:42:37] who will walk through

[2:42:40] the presentation.

[2:42:40] All right.

[2:42:41] The salary ordinance is an

[2:42:42] annual item that establishes

[2:42:44] the compensation schedules for

[2:42:45] all employees and officers of

[2:42:46] the city per the city charter.

[2:42:50] The charter mandates that

[2:42:50] the first reading of the salary

[2:42:51] ordinance must be presented to

[2:42:52] city council by APRIL 15th.

[2:42:55] Each year This year's

[2:42:56] presentation is broken down

[2:42:59] into five sections Those are

[2:42:59] salary and wage adjustments,

[2:43:03] recommended updates, civil

[2:43:04] service recommendations,

[2:43:05] minimum wage compliance and

[2:43:09] acknowledgment s for salary

[2:43:09] wage adjustments salary and

[2:43:13] wage adjustments The city is

[2:43:14] currently negotiating with all

[2:43:14] six Recognize employee

[2:43:18] organizations also known as

[2:43:18] Oreos and therefore there are

[2:43:19] currently no wage increases to

[2:43:24] report for employees

[2:43:24] represented by the Oreos.

[2:43:25] We will be returning to City

[2:43:28] council with amendments to

[2:43:29] the f y 2027 salary ordinance

[2:43:33] to reflect any negotiating as

[2:43:34] to wages and benefits when it

[2:43:34] comes to wage adjustments for

[2:43:38] unrepresented employees, there

[2:43:39] are no proposed increases for

[2:43:40] unrepresented employees as

[2:43:43] contract negotiation seasons

[2:43:44] are ongoing.

[2:43:44] We will also return to City

[2:43:47] council once the negotiations

[2:43:48] have concluded with any

[2:43:52] recommended adjustments.

[2:43:53] Next we'll turn to recommended

[2:43:53] updates.

[2:43:57] First is position titles and

[2:43:58] the following are recommended

[2:44:02] updates to titles in order to

[2:44:03] align the Fire rescue

[2:44:03] department's rank structure

[2:44:06] with the National Incident

[2:44:07] Management System which is

[2:44:07] followed by nearly all fire

[2:44:11] departments in the country.

[2:44:12] The title changes will be as

[2:44:13] follows Assistant Fire Chief

[2:44:16] Classification in the Executive

[2:44:17] for Category and Exhibit c will

[2:44:21] change to Deputy Fire Chief and

[2:44:22] the title of the Deputy Fire

[2:44:23] Chief classification in

[2:44:26] the Managerial c category and

[2:44:27] Exhibit c will change to

[2:44:31] Assistant Fire Chief.

[2:44:31] Next is working titles.

[2:44:32] The following are

[2:44:32] the recommended updates to

[2:44:36] working title.

[2:44:37] First is the Assistant City

[2:44:37] Manager a position exempted by

[2:44:41] the city Charter which has been

[2:44:42] operationalized with

[2:44:42] the working title of Assistant

[2:44:46] Chief Operating Officer which h

[2:44:47] is It is proposed to be updated

[2:44:50] to Chief of Staff the Assistant

[2:44:51] to the City Manager a position

[2:44:52] also exempted by the city

[2:44:55] charter has been

[2:44:56] operationalized with

[2:44:57] the working title of Deputy

[2:45:00] Chief Operating Officer which

[2:45:01] is proposed to be updated to

[2:45:05] Chief Officer The Business

[2:45:06] Center manager which has a

[2:45:06] working title of Assistant

[2:45:10] Deputy Chief Operating Officer

[2:45:11] is proposed to be updated to

[2:45:11] Deputy Chief of Staff.

[2:45:15] And finally the assistant to

[2:45:16] the city manager which has a

[2:45:17] working title of assistant to

[2:45:19] the Chief operating officer is

[2:45:23] recommended to be eliminated.

[2:45:24] Next we have recommended

[2:45:29] movements between salary ranges

[2:45:29] as requested by the city clerk.

[2:45:30] It is recommended to move

[2:45:33] the assistant City Clerk

[2:45:34] classification from managerial

[2:45:38] c to miscellaneous a This will

[2:45:39] result in the Assistant City

[2:45:40] Clerk classification having

[2:45:43] the same salary range as other

[2:45:44] Assistant Director positions in

[2:45:47] independent city departments in

[2:45:48] order to align with the overall

[2:45:49] citywide position hierarchy of

[2:45:53] the unclassified service it is

[2:45:53] recommended to move

[2:45:54] the retitled Assistant Fire

[2:45:57] Chief along with the Assistant

[2:46:00] Police Chief to the Executive

[2:46:01] three category.

[2:46:02] >> Now I will cover recommended

[2:46:05] updates to exhibits f for auto

[2:46:06] allowance je for management

[2:46:09] administrative leave and h

[2:46:10] the four Management Executive

[2:46:14] Life Insurance The following

[2:46:15] are only working title updates

[2:46:16] and do not change the current

[2:46:20] benefits received by these

[2:46:20] positions for Exhibit f Auto

[2:46:24] allowance The recommendation is

[2:46:25] to update the assistant to

[2:46:26] the City Manager working title

[2:46:29] which is currently Deputy Chief

[2:46:30] Operating Officer to be Chief

[2:46:34] Upper excuse me Chief Officer

[2:46:35] and to add Business Center

[2:46:35] manager with the working title

[2:46:39] of Deputy Chief of Staff for

[2:46:39] Exhibit g Management

[2:46:40] Administrative Leave.

[2:46:43] The recommendation is also to

[2:46:44] update the assistant to

[2:46:45] the City Manager working title

[2:46:49] which is currently Deputy Chief

[2:46:49] Operating Officer to be Chief

[2:46:54] Officer and to add the Business

[2:46:55] Center manager with the working

[2:46:58] title of Deputy Chief of Staff

[2:46:59] for Exhibit h.

[2:46:59] The working title is being

[2:47:03] updated for existing Assistant

[2:47:04] City Manager to Chief of Staff

[2:47:04] and the working title update

[2:47:08] for the existing Assistant to

[2:47:09] the City Manager which is Chief

[2:47:13] Officer for Civil Service

[2:47:14] Commission recommendations.

[2:47:15] There are three groups of

[2:47:18] recommendations.

[2:47:19] First are new or reestablished

[2:47:22] classifications.

[2:47:23] There are seven new or

[2:47:24] reestablished classifications

[2:47:24] recommended by the Civil

[2:47:27] Service Commission through

[2:47:28] the annual salary salary review

[2:47:32] process Four are represented by

[2:47:35] mba and three by Local 145

[2:47:36] second or title changes.

[2:47:37] There are four title changes

[2:47:40] recommended by the Civil

[2:47:41] Service Commission through

[2:47:41] the annual salary review

[2:47:45] process.

[2:47:46] Those include Legal Secretary

[2:47:47] one and two which are

[2:47:47] recommended to be changed to

[2:47:50] legal administrative assistants

[2:47:50] one and two Senior legal

[2:47:51] secretary which will be changed

[2:47:55] to senior legal Administrative

[2:47:56] Assistant and Principal Legal

[2:47:56] Secretary which will be change

[2:47:57] a principal legal

[2:48:00] administrative assistant.

[2:48:01] Third are the deletions.

[2:48:04] There are 16 classifications

[2:48:05] recommended by the Civil

[2:48:09] Service Commission for deletion

[2:48:09] .

[2:48:10] Nine of these are represented

[2:48:10] five or local 127 represented

[2:48:16] and to our unrepresented.

[2:48:17] Next is the minimum wage

[2:48:21] compliance the California

[2:48:22] minimum wage increase to $16.90

[2:48:26] per hour on JANUARY 1st of 2026

[2:48:29] The salary ordinance assuming

[2:48:30] the salary ordinance codifies

[2:48:31] it Also on JANUARY 1st, 2026,

[2:48:34] the city of San Diego minimum

[2:48:35] wage increase to $17.75 per

[2:48:39] hour according to the salary

[2:48:39] tables and exhibits to

[2:48:40] the salary ordinance all city

[2:48:44] employees will be paid no less

[2:48:44] than the local minimum wage of

[2:48:49] $17.75 per hour.

[2:48:50] Finally we have acknowledgments

[2:48:51] While H.R. Is the lead for

[2:48:53] the salary ordinance

[2:48:54] presentation, it is a team

[2:48:54] effort each I'd like to

[2:48:55] acknowledge and thank

[2:48:58] the following for their input

[2:48:59] and help the City Attorney's

[2:49:03] Office personnel aba's Office

[2:49:03] Department of Finance Risk

[2:49:04] Management and the Department

[2:49:08] of Information Technology.

[2:49:08] This concludes our presentation

[2:49:09] and we are happy to take any

[2:49:15] questions you MAY have.

[2:49:15] >> All right.

[2:49:16] Thank you for your

[2:49:17] presentation, Clark Let's

[2:49:21] proceed with public testimony

[2:49:22] on s506 Thank you.

[2:49:25] Item s I was six We have one

[2:49:25] speaker here in council

[2:49:26] chambers and others and

[2:49:27] the virtual q l del Mastro if

[2:49:37] you can please come forward.

[2:49:38] Yes.

[2:49:38] You'll have two minutes.

[2:49:39] Please proceed.

[2:49:42] Hi, my name is Al Del Mastro

[2:49:43] And um, you know the reason why

[2:49:47] I oppose this the salaries is

[2:49:48] because how misleading it was

[2:49:49] on Prop l that you guys all got

[2:49:52] such a large raises over and in

[2:49:53] the deal is is that good

[2:49:57] leaders lead by example so if

[2:49:57] you want to take a salary cut

[2:50:01] push it on the public to have a

[2:50:02] salary cut like I'm a mom a

[2:50:06] small mom and pop Liam Ward and

[2:50:07] the restrictions you put on me

[2:50:08] over and over again the idea

[2:50:12] that this new thing that's

[2:50:12] misleading that's being put on

[2:50:16] by Sean Isla Rivera this thing

[2:50:17] about the empty house law which

[2:50:21] I looked it up again yesterday

[2:50:22] and after I spoke to MR. Looked

[2:50:23] it up I'm not exempt It is

[2:50:26] because I live in a five plex

[2:50:27] So if my wife dies and I can't

[2:50:30] complete an apartment in six

[2:50:30] months I'm going to get a

[2:50:34] $10,000 fine Or if I get cancer

[2:50:35] I'm going to get a $10,000

[2:50:35] fine.

[2:50:36] Who thinks that's a good He

[2:50:39] doesn't think this is

[2:50:40] the ugliest law since Jim Crow

[2:50:40] and it's really hard that you

[2:50:45] guys would approve this against

[2:50:46] senior citizens unity.

[2:50:46] Can you focus on the salary

[2:50:49] ordinance and not it is on So

[2:50:50] it's just a misleading part.

[2:50:51] That's how I'm putting it.

[2:50:52] I'm just as misleading as

[2:50:54] the salary ordinance was put in

[2:50:55] is how misleading this is being

[2:50:55] put in.

[2:50:59] You know who would do that to a

[2:50:59] senior on 90% of all mom and

[2:51:03] pops are between the ages of 55

[2:51:04] and 80 years old.

[2:51:08] Do you think you should do that

[2:51:09] to a senior, Joe?

[2:51:09] You think you should give them

[2:51:14] a fine if they can't get their

[2:51:14] home up in time because of

[2:51:15] their grieving or they have

[2:51:18] cancer or they have an illness

[2:51:19] and not in a long The only

[2:51:19] exemption for illness is that

[2:51:23] if you're in a long term care

[2:51:23] facility that's it I live in in

[2:51:28] or exemption If you live in a

[2:51:29] property that's less than four

[2:51:29] units that's it.

[2:51:31] There is no other exemption for

[2:51:31] me.

[2:51:36] >> Thank you.

[2:51:36] I'm sorry.

[2:51:37] At the five minute time we're

[2:51:38] hearing council chambers going

[2:51:40] to those participating remotely

[2:51:41] currently have three speakers

[2:51:42] in the Kubler Beckman.

[2:51:46] If you can please unmute I

[2:51:46] thank you for this item.

[2:51:47] Thank you for how you're

[2:51:50] talking about it.

[2:51:51] I just wanted to quickly offer

[2:51:55] that at public comment

[2:51:55] yesterday a person you know

[2:52:00] asked the question if city

[2:52:00] council persons and the mayor

[2:52:04] can consider taking a cut in

[2:52:05] salary.

[2:52:05] I thought it was a nice thing

[2:52:06] to offer.

[2:52:08] I think it's an item we still

[2:52:09] have to be considering as

[2:52:10] you're deliberating these

[2:52:14] issues that are very many right

[2:52:14] now for this item.

[2:52:18] I hope we really can be

[2:52:19] considering the future of

[2:52:23] whatever type of salary cut

[2:52:24] council can make and definitely

[2:52:28] the mayor it's definitely a

[2:52:28] goodwill gesture.

[2:52:29] It is working in the right

[2:52:30] direction and I think it'll

[2:52:33] give yourselves a good sense of

[2:52:38] how to better address issues

[2:52:39] it's sacrificing And I think I

[2:52:42] think you're respected and good

[2:52:43] things will arise from it.

[2:52:44] I hope you can really be

[2:52:48] considering I think it's an

[2:52:49] important item to consider for

[2:52:50] a future and it certainly gives

[2:52:52] good faith to the community

[2:52:53] that you're trying to look for

[2:52:53] answers to.

[2:52:54] >> Thanks.

[2:52:56] Thank you.

[2:52:57] Your next is the original If

[2:53:06] you can please unmute with

[2:53:06] the failures of the city It's

[2:53:11] pretty ridiculous that we

[2:53:12] continually talk about giving

[2:53:15] raises and with the exorbitant

[2:53:16] amounts of money that you guys

[2:53:17] make and the mayor makes I mean

[2:53:21] it's crazy because there's all

[2:53:21] this other pay and kickbacks

[2:53:25] that come in and it's like you

[2:53:26] guys shouldn't be making more

[2:53:26] than Congress.

[2:53:27] That's ridiculous.

[2:53:30] And you guys are going to

[2:53:30] always continually give people

[2:53:34] raises instead of making sure

[2:53:35] that you guys are providing

[2:53:35] everything that the city is

[2:53:36] supposed to be providing,

[2:53:39] you're failing miserably.

[2:53:40] And it's like when you sit here

[2:53:41] and you're like reclassifying

[2:53:41] different positions at super

[2:53:46] suspicious cause is that a way

[2:53:46] if somebody like salary was

[2:53:50] capped at something and they

[2:53:51] couldn't make any more then you

[2:53:51] put them into a new position

[2:53:52] and they can start making more

[2:53:54] and more money.

[2:53:55] I mean just the things that you

[2:53:56] guys do are fishy and you

[2:53:59] should be willing to take a pay

[2:53:59] cut.

[2:54:00] I mean you guys are the ones

[2:54:00] that increase the cost of

[2:54:04] living every time that you have

[2:54:05] a meeting and you want to sit

[2:54:06] here and act like you're going

[2:54:09] to go after others who do it,

[2:54:10] you're the ones who do it and

[2:54:11] the people come to you and like

[2:54:11] thank you for it.

[2:54:14] It's really sad because it's

[2:54:14] like you know looking at how

[2:54:15] much money you guys make and

[2:54:18] like the normal person just

[2:54:19] trying to pay rent It's pretty

[2:54:23] crazy And I don't know how you

[2:54:24] guys can sit up there and not

[2:54:25] see what's going on and that

[2:54:28] that's very kind of, you know,

[2:54:29] just a slap in the face and

[2:54:30] gaslighting of the people to

[2:54:33] act like you really care when

[2:54:34] you guys are just always giving

[2:54:38] raises and you're failing.

[2:54:38] I mean no other business would

[2:54:39] be like Yeah, we're going to

[2:54:40] give you a raise even though

[2:54:40] you're not doing what you're

[2:54:42] supposed to be doing.

[2:54:43] It only happens in government

[2:54:43] And it's crazy because

[2:54:44] the government gets bigger and

[2:54:47] bigger but everything gets

[2:54:47] worse and worse and it's just

[2:54:52] more control and more like, you

[2:54:53] know, meddling into people's

[2:54:53] lives.

[2:54:57] So like when you guys actually

[2:54:57] start providing what needs to

[2:54:58] be provided and you put

[2:55:02] engaging in fraud, waste and

[2:55:03] abuse with our money then maybe

[2:55:03] raises can be talked about.

[2:55:07] But until then you guys need to

[2:55:08] be thinking about how you're

[2:55:11] going to cut your salaries.

[2:55:12] Our final speaker 8700 If you

[2:55:16] can please unmute.

[2:55:22] Thank you.

[2:55:25] 31 days of joy Senator Okay.

[2:55:30] On the PowerPoint with the mou

[2:55:35] negotiations and the under and

[2:55:35] the unrepresented group we

[2:55:39] don't have we don't know what

[2:55:40] the outcome will be.

[2:55:40] So will these figures which

[2:55:44] will probably go up affect

[2:55:45] the f y 28 budget.

[2:55:49] I know there's some sort of it

[2:55:50] goes ahead a year or two so I

[2:55:51] need clarity on that if

[2:55:54] possible.

[2:55:54] I don't know if there's another

[2:55:55] hearing on the salary

[2:55:55] ordinance.

[2:55:59] I tried to look at the aba

[2:55:59] budget dates and I couldn't

[2:56:03] find them either On the aba

[2:56:04] website or I lost them in my

[2:56:08] pdf file So I need that fire

[2:56:09] department adjustments again on

[2:56:13] the PowerPoint.

[2:56:13] I couldn't get what was

[2:56:14] happening there.

[2:56:15] It seemed like there was a

[2:56:17] title that was taken away and

[2:56:18] been given so I don't know what

[2:56:19] to do with that.

[2:56:22] Do changes involve salary

[2:56:23] increases?

[2:56:23] Of course they do.

[2:56:26] And what is the total

[2:56:27] expenditure?

[2:56:27] When are we going to know these

[2:56:32] things get approved?

[2:56:33] How much is going to have to

[2:56:33] come out of the citizens

[2:56:36] pockets of all our pockets?

[2:56:37] So please please clarify that

[2:56:41] for us.

[2:56:42] And then as far as all of you

[2:56:43] council and so with the mayor

[2:56:46] getting pay increases, we

[2:56:47] really need to talk about that

[2:56:51] and be fair for everybody to

[2:56:51] thank you for this.

[2:56:52] I'll leave it up to you to

[2:56:56] decide where to go with it.

[2:56:56] I love you all.

[2:56:57] Thank you.

[2:56:57] That does conclude public

[2:57:01] comment on this item.

[2:57:01] >> All right.

[2:57:02] Thank you, city Clerk And with

[2:57:03] that will turn it over to

[2:57:03] the council for questions,

[2:57:07] Comments and entertain a motion

[2:57:07] .

[2:57:13] I'm going to go first.

[2:57:14] Not anybody else Even though my

[2:57:15] staff said go last.

[2:57:17] Thank you for the good work as

[2:57:18] council PRESIDENT I, I think

[2:57:19] I've I feel compelled.

[2:57:22] This is a big thing We know

[2:57:23] with the date that this has to

[2:57:24] be delivered So the number of

[2:57:27] changes that happened including

[2:57:28] today really makes it tough for

[2:57:32] council to go to deliberations.

[2:57:33] I think there was a lot of

[2:57:34] transparency in that even

[2:57:37] though material was being

[2:57:38] delivered late and I think some

[2:57:42] of it was in response to some

[2:57:42] of the questions that were

[2:57:43] raised being raised by my

[2:57:47] colleagues or their staff going

[2:57:47] forward.

[2:57:48] But I kind of feel like I have

[2:57:51] to say this so we need the time

[2:57:52] to digest what you all have

[2:57:52] been spending days, weeks,

[2:58:00] perhaps months on to

[2:58:00] the working titles Now we had

[2:58:01] working titles last year when

[2:58:05] we approved the salary

[2:58:05] ordinance.

[2:58:06] There are some changes to

[2:58:09] the working titles this year.

[2:58:10] Help us understand the whole

[2:58:11] purpose of doing working titles

[2:58:14] as opposed to saying Let's just

[2:58:15] change this classification to

[2:58:19] abc instead of saying it's x,

[2:58:20] y, z in parentheses Working

[2:58:22] title abc What's the logic in

[2:58:26] that?

[2:58:27] So several of the positions

[2:58:31] that are identified expressly

[2:58:32] in the salary ordinance are

[2:58:33] also identified expressly in

[2:58:33] the charter and because they're

[2:58:36] identified in the charter they

[2:58:37] have to have that position And

[2:58:38] working titles can be the way

[2:58:41] that you can explain the upper

[2:58:42] is ational effectiveness of

[2:58:43] that position So a deputy chief

[2:58:43] of staff instead of a say an

[2:58:47] assistant to the city manager

[2:58:47] is that's more in line with

[2:58:51] the current practice.

[2:58:51] >> Okay.

[2:58:52] I think the other thing that

[2:58:53] came up that I think we're all

[2:58:56] thinking about right now

[2:58:57] excluding the minimum wage

[2:58:58] because that obviously will pay

[2:59:02] some individuals more per hour

[2:59:02] to stay consistent with

[2:59:03] the minimum wage.

[2:59:06] Does the changes indicated on

[2:59:11] here have any net impact on our

[2:59:12] budget?

[2:59:16] >> No, there is no change.

[2:59:16] That's why we're noting that

[2:59:17] upon conclusion of negotiations

[2:59:18] we would come back we would do

[2:59:21] an amendment to the salary

[2:59:22] ordinance as we have done in

[2:59:22] past years that would affect

[2:59:26] the budget changes at that

[2:59:26] time.

[2:59:27] >> Okay.

[2:59:27] And just to clarify except for

[2:59:28] the minimum wage and except for

[2:59:30] whatever MAY happen with

[2:59:31] the Orioles and the six

[2:59:31] contracts that any of the title

[2:59:35] changes any of

[2:59:35] the reclassifications any of

[2:59:39] the side benefits that are

[2:59:40] reference there is no cost with

[2:59:41] the action being called for

[2:59:44] today Correct?

[2:59:45] This is merely title changes no

[2:59:46] change in benefits or wages or

[2:59:48] salaries for any employees at

[2:59:49] this time.

[2:59:49] >> Okay.

[2:59:50] I wanted to get that on

[2:59:51] the record because I know

[2:59:54] people will be concerned about

[2:59:55] that And then I see our chief

[2:59:55] is in the back here flip

[2:59:59] flopping assistant Deputy Chief

[2:59:59] Logan There's only one chief in

[3:00:03] the room so but you've talked

[3:00:04] about it with your team in

[3:00:09] terms of flip flopping deputy

[3:00:09] and assistant positions to be

[3:00:10] as I understand consistent with

[3:00:13] the National model.

[3:00:14] That's correct.

[3:00:15] If you look at all the large

[3:00:15] cities in California, they're

[3:00:16] all reverse.

[3:00:19] We've been wrong for a few

[3:00:19] decades.

[3:00:23] You know, I'm riding the ship,

[3:00:23] okay?

[3:00:24] No salary increases, no salary.

[3:00:24] Okay.

[3:00:28] And no new shirts and new

[3:00:34] nameplates, new nameplates and

[3:00:34] email signatures.

[3:00:35] There you go.

[3:00:35] Very minimum goals.

[3:00:36] Okay.

[3:00:38] Thank you for clarifying Just

[3:00:39] one I assume that was the case.

[3:00:40] I just wanted to double check

[3:00:40] with that.

[3:00:43] I'm going to move the staff

[3:00:43] recommendation and then turn it

[3:00:44] over to my colleagues for their

[3:00:49] comments.

[3:00:50] >> Questions will go to Council

[3:00:50] member Whitburn Thank you.

[3:00:53] Council PRESIDENT You actually

[3:00:53] asked and got the answer to

[3:00:56] the question that I had so I am

[3:00:57] happy to second the motion.

[3:00:57] >> All right.

[3:01:01] We have a motion by myself and

[3:01:01] a second by Council member

[3:01:02] Whitburn to move a staff

[3:01:03] recommendation will go to

[3:01:05] council member Eli Romero Thank

[3:01:06] you Council PRESIDENT.

[3:01:06] Thanks for the presentation

[3:01:10] here.

[3:01:11] I appreciate the questions that

[3:01:12] you asked Council PRESIDENT And

[3:01:16] the point you made obviously in

[3:01:19] a budget environment like

[3:01:19] the one that we're in where

[3:01:24] we're going to make some very

[3:01:24] difficult decisions where we

[3:01:25] have working families across

[3:01:26] the city struggling to make

[3:01:29] ends meet, I think it's

[3:01:29] important that the way we

[3:01:33] tighten our belt matters I

[3:01:34] guess is what I'm trying to

[3:01:34] say.

[3:01:35] And so I want to make sure that

[3:01:38] we're doing that in in a way

[3:01:44] that ensures our actions match

[3:01:44] our rhetoric.

[3:01:45] So I think it's a fair question

[3:01:49] about our salaries and I think

[3:01:50] it's a I think there's some

[3:01:53] misunderstanding about what our

[3:01:54] powers are as it relates to

[3:01:54] that.

[3:01:58] The raises the salaries set in

[3:02:04] the salary ordinance in front

[3:02:04] of us for the council members

[3:02:05] in the mayor are set as a

[3:02:09] result of Measure l which was

[3:02:12] adopted by the voters in 2018.

[3:02:12] >> Correct.

[3:02:17] This is for the city Attorney.

[3:02:18] Yes, that that is correct.

[3:02:22] And and our understanding is

[3:02:23] that council members cannot

[3:02:32] reject this per the ordinance

[3:02:33] per the action that was taken

[3:02:33] by the voters, correct?

[3:02:34] That's that's correct.

[3:02:34] Okay.

[3:02:38] Thank you.

[3:02:39] The charter doesn't provide any

[3:02:43] means for the council members

[3:02:43] to refuse to accept the raise

[3:02:48] or refuse to accept the salary

[3:02:48] .

[3:02:49] >> So in order to do that you

[3:02:50] would have to have a charter

[3:02:50] amendment that permitted that

[3:02:52] understood.

[3:02:53] Thank you again, very, very

[3:02:58] fair question And I've been in

[3:02:58] situations where as a position

[3:03:03] of leadership where I've pulled

[3:03:04] back my own salary because it

[3:03:09] was at or workers who were paid

[3:03:10] less either willing to be let

[3:03:11] go or to receive less And I

[3:03:13] wasn't okay with that.

[3:03:18] The voters took an action in

[3:03:18] 2018 and I just want to make

[3:03:22] sure it's clear that that's

[3:03:23] that is how the table was set

[3:03:23] in the way that it is.

[3:03:32] On another note, I and I, I

[3:03:32] want to simultaneously say that

[3:03:39] everyone who works in this city

[3:03:40] that works at that work of all

[3:03:45] people should be honored.

[3:03:45] And I know what this

[3:03:46] conversation over the next few

[3:03:49] months is going to look like as

[3:03:50] it relates to the budget and

[3:03:51] that the folks who are most

[3:03:51] likely to be impacted by

[3:03:54] decisions that are made are

[3:03:59] residents of the city and and

[3:04:00] lower paid workers in the city

[3:04:04] to be quite honest and with

[3:04:05] that well I understand a lot of

[3:04:06] this is cleanup.

[3:04:10] >> I I see stuff in here that

[3:04:16] lists and I I'm not okay with

[3:04:17] the amount no one's more open

[3:04:20] to on the dais changes than I

[3:04:20] am.

[3:04:26] But this showing up right now

[3:04:27] I'm not good with that And what

[3:04:28] I saw what was presented to us

[3:04:34] were executive and manager

[3:04:35] positions that were eligible

[3:04:38] for additional perks such as a

[3:04:38] $475 monthly automobile

[3:04:42] allowance and 80 hours of

[3:04:48] management administrative leave

[3:04:48] regardless of whether or not

[3:04:53] that is cleanup, I am not okay

[3:04:53] with putting my name in support

[3:04:58] of that given the context of

[3:04:58] the moment that we were in and

[3:05:03] certainly not given how late

[3:05:03] the additional explanation and

[3:05:04] materials we were presented

[3:05:09] with that are meant to justify

[3:05:09] and explain those actions.

[3:05:10] So Council PRESIDENT With all

[3:05:14] due respect I will not be

[3:05:14] supporting motion but it was I

[3:05:15] understood.

[3:05:16] Thank you for your comments and

[3:05:19] observations.

[3:05:19] >> We'll go next to Council

[3:05:20] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Thank

[3:05:24] House PRESIDENT Can I just

[3:05:24] start by asking that these

[3:05:27] materials were different 24

[3:05:32] hours ago?

[3:05:33] >> Yes.

[3:05:34] There was clarification for

[3:05:34] the specific position of

[3:05:37] Assistant to city manager.

[3:05:38] There are two positions

[3:05:38] currently in the salary table

[3:05:43] that have the title of

[3:05:44] assistant city manager but

[3:05:44] different working titles.

[3:05:45] So to address the cleanup and

[3:05:49] clarification that was causing

[3:05:49] for confusion, we made sure

[3:05:50] that the assistant to city

[3:05:54] manager has a working title of

[3:05:55] chief officer and that

[3:05:55] the business center manager has

[3:05:59] the working title of the deputy

[3:06:00] chief of Staff so that there

[3:06:01] was no ongoing confusion about

[3:06:05] the two different responses or

[3:06:05] positions.

[3:06:06] The pay is not changing it's

[3:06:11] merely a title change cleanup.

[3:06:12] >> I think it's part of my

[3:06:13] struggle of understanding

[3:06:15] the pay is not changing.

[3:06:16] You're saying the benefits

[3:06:17] aren't changing but the title

[3:06:21] has to change And yesterday

[3:06:22] the title change is different

[3:06:25] than the to today which I can't

[3:06:26] help but now feel like it's

[3:06:27] just an arbitrary decision.

[3:06:28] That's what we think the title

[3:06:32] is or needs to be because

[3:06:32] yesterday was the assistant to

[3:06:33] the city manager and today it's

[3:06:37] business center manager which

[3:06:38] I've perhaps but neither

[3:06:39] position currently exists in

[3:06:45] our budget This year If you

[3:06:51] look at job numbers I don't see

[3:06:51] either 2112 which is a business

[3:06:54] manager or I believe it was

[3:06:55] 2127 which was the assistant to

[3:06:59] the ceo either as a budget

[3:07:00] position or an on budget

[3:07:01] position that's currently

[3:07:05] filled.

[3:07:06] I guess just to continue along

[3:07:10] those lines are all the Well

[3:07:11] you might have answered some of

[3:07:11] that.

[3:07:12] Are there other positions that

[3:07:16] are within these working title

[3:07:17] changes that are currently not

[3:07:18] budgeted in this current fiscal

[3:07:21] year?

[3:07:27] So it's going to be a somewhat

[3:07:27] complicated answer.

[3:07:28] First of all, there are

[3:07:29] hundreds if not thousands of

[3:07:32] positions laid out in

[3:07:33] the salary ordinance, not all

[3:07:33] of which MAY necessarily

[3:07:34] correspond to a position that

[3:07:37] is currently in the budget.

[3:07:38] There are also positions that

[3:07:39] are covered in the salary

[3:07:43] ordinance where the number of

[3:07:44] positions that are currently

[3:07:44] filled and the number of

[3:07:48] positions that are budgeted are

[3:07:49] different.

[3:07:49] If you have questions about a

[3:07:54] specific position I can try to

[3:07:55] answer that.

[3:07:56] I'm sure that occurred as well.

[3:07:59] But it's a question of where

[3:08:00] you want to look in as much as

[3:08:03] there There's 13,000 city

[3:08:04] employees and many, many, many

[3:08:08] classifications.

[3:08:09] Yeah.

[3:08:09] Thank you Charles.

[3:08:10] I think I'll just share that my

[3:08:14] frustration as of right now is

[3:08:15] that in an area where I think

[3:08:16] we're dealing with significant

[3:08:19] challenges from a transparency

[3:08:19] standpoint that one that

[3:08:20] changes I understand that they

[3:08:20] needed to be made and

[3:08:21] clarifications had to happen

[3:08:24] but it's near impossible to

[3:08:25] explain that to folks when we

[3:08:29] get briefed on an item And

[3:08:30] the details of it now are

[3:08:31] different Between the briefing

[3:08:36] we had not that long ago and

[3:08:36] the item actually being

[3:08:37] presented at Council think that

[3:08:41] that is I mean that's a

[3:08:42] challenge especially when

[3:08:42] there's going to be fair

[3:08:43] questions.

[3:08:43] I think from the outside I

[3:08:47] think someone looks at

[3:08:47] the documents here.

[3:08:48] Part of what folks from

[3:08:49] the public have inferred is

[3:08:53] that we are adding additional

[3:08:54] benefits to employees because

[3:08:54] that's what the wording search

[3:08:55] seems to suggest We're adding

[3:08:58] additional auto allowances for

[3:08:59] two different classifications I

[3:08:59] think I understand from what

[3:09:04] has been shared that there's

[3:09:05] not a change from the current

[3:09:05] practice.

[3:09:06] It's because it's a change to

[3:09:10] try to reflect specific

[3:09:11] positions that I believe are

[3:09:11] currently not filled nor

[3:09:15] currently in the We haven't

[3:09:16] seen the proposed budget yet

[3:09:17] but from my understanding not

[3:09:17] in the currently proposed

[3:09:21] budget that comes out tomorrow

[3:09:21] but MAY be used at some point

[3:09:26] between now and then hence

[3:09:27] the shift in benefits that are

[3:09:28] being required for it And to

[3:09:31] the public that just looks like

[3:09:32] we're adding another auto

[3:09:33] allowance for another executive

[3:09:33] position when we were

[3:09:34] simultaneously as just

[3:09:38] reporting the last day or so

[3:09:39] asking all of our classified

[3:09:40] employees to go where a very

[3:09:44] significant number of them have

[3:09:44] agreed to take mandatory

[3:09:49] furlough next year as part of

[3:09:50] the budgetary challenges that

[3:09:51] the city is facing And that is

[3:09:51] purely a perception issue And I

[3:09:54] think when we're put in a

[3:09:55] position that's very challenged

[3:09:55] to understand what's being

[3:09:56] changed, it makes it even more

[3:10:00] difficult for us to go and

[3:10:00] explain that to the public.

[3:10:01] >> For me this also ties back

[3:10:06] to the fact that I know that

[3:10:07] there are positions highlighted

[3:10:07] here in executive management

[3:10:13] that this council did not

[3:10:13] approve in our budget last

[3:10:13] year.

[3:10:14] They remain on budget at this

[3:10:15] time in this year and there has

[3:10:17] been no change made from

[3:10:18] the mayor to account for that.

[3:10:19] It's a question that we have

[3:10:23] all struggled to answer

[3:10:23] throughout this year.

[3:10:24] Perhaps it's a surprise that we

[3:10:25] have not talked more about it

[3:10:25] but the council passed a budget

[3:10:28] last year that

[3:10:29] the administration decided that

[3:10:29] was not necessary to fully

[3:10:34] enact it and it turns out that

[3:10:35] that perhaps they have

[3:10:36] the authority to do so.

[3:10:36] Those will be added back in for

[3:10:40] next year I presume And we're

[3:10:41] going to be running around

[3:10:42] about in that conversation all

[3:10:46] over again And that failure to

[3:10:46] have Council's legislative

[3:10:47] authority and intent met is

[3:10:51] extremely frustrating and I see

[3:10:52] it reflected here into

[3:10:52] the salary ordinance proposal

[3:10:57] especially because of how

[3:10:57] confusing it's been presented

[3:10:58] with the changes.

[3:11:03] So with that I will concur with

[3:11:03] my colleague and I will not be

[3:11:04] supporting the motion today.

[3:11:04] >> All right.

[3:11:05] Thank you.

[3:11:10] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.

[3:11:10] >> We're going back to

[3:11:11] Councilmember Lambert.

[3:11:11] Thank you.

[3:11:15] And I, I honestly feel the same

[3:11:16] way as my colleagues about I'm

[3:11:20] just unclear about what we're

[3:11:21] doing today because materials

[3:11:22] are swapped out about half an

[3:11:25] hour before this meeting and

[3:11:26] I'm reading in the new updated

[3:11:33] staff report that I'm going to

[3:11:34] page number on the staff

[3:11:34] reports.

[3:11:35] I don't know what page to tell

[3:11:38] people to come to but the title

[3:11:39] says Movement of unclassified

[3:11:40] classification to different

[3:11:40] salary ranges and changes in

[3:11:44] unclassified classification

[3:11:45] titles, auto allowance and

[3:11:45] the administrative management

[3:11:50] administrative leave that page

[3:11:51] I'm looking at there's a bunch

[3:11:51] of bullet points in the first

[3:11:52] three Talk about moving

[3:11:57] the classification decision

[3:11:58] city clerk resulting in

[3:11:58] decisions and career

[3:11:59] classification having the same

[3:12:03] salary as other assistant

[3:12:04] director positions in

[3:12:04] independent city departments

[3:12:08] and to give that an explanation

[3:12:09] of why we're making the change

[3:12:10] because we want that person to

[3:12:10] be able to be paid on board or

[3:12:15] paid on par with the similar

[3:12:15] employees in other state

[3:12:16] departments.

[3:12:16] The second one about the fire

[3:12:17] department changing the title

[3:12:21] of assistant fire chief

[3:12:21] classification It goes on and

[3:12:22] on and on.

[3:12:23] So the title changes will align

[3:12:23] the fire rescue department's

[3:12:26] rank structure with

[3:12:27] the National Incident

[3:12:28] Management System which sets

[3:12:28] the standard for emergency

[3:12:29] command structure and is

[3:12:33] followed by all by nearly all

[3:12:34] fire department in the country.

[3:12:35] Understand I didn't know

[3:12:39] beforehand that this change

[3:12:39] makes sense to me because an

[3:12:40] explanation here of why we're

[3:12:41] changing her title because we

[3:12:44] need to do it for making

[3:12:45] structure for incident command.

[3:12:46] Same thing with moving

[3:12:46] Assistant Fire Chief Assistant

[3:12:50] Police Chief Executive Three

[3:12:50] categories states that these

[3:12:51] classifications will align

[3:12:52] the position of the overall

[3:12:52] position hierarchy of

[3:12:55] the unclassified service.

[3:12:56] Again everything below that has

[3:12:56] no explanation about why we're

[3:13:01] doing this Eliminating

[3:13:02] the Assistant City Manager

[3:13:02] changing the title of

[3:13:03] the assistant city manager,

[3:13:07] changing the business center

[3:13:08] manager working title There's

[3:13:09] no x Why are we doing all of

[3:13:09] that?

[3:13:13] Can't we just call our staff

[3:13:14] You know the titles of

[3:13:14] the working title?

[3:13:19] We want them to I know in my

[3:13:20] office for example everyone's

[3:13:20] actual classification is I

[3:13:22] think what assistant what is

[3:13:28] the actual classification?

[3:13:29] Yeah Every single person in my

[3:13:30] office under the city title is

[3:13:35] a council rep but I have a

[3:13:35] chief of staff.

[3:13:36] I have a deputy chief of staff,

[3:13:37] I have a senior advisor in

[3:13:37] policy.

[3:13:40] We don't need to change

[3:13:41] the ordinance for me to be able

[3:13:42] to give my staff their business

[3:13:42] cards based on their title.

[3:13:43] So why are we changing all of

[3:13:53] these So as I noted earlier,

[3:13:53] the charter section has a

[3:13:54] specific requirement for

[3:13:55] the position so assistant city

[3:13:58] manager or assistant city

[3:13:59] manager So the current salary

[3:14:00] ordinance the salary tables do

[3:14:05] you have working titles?

[3:14:06] So those have to be brought

[3:14:06] into alignment with the current

[3:14:07] status of the working titles or

[3:14:10] alternatively they can be

[3:14:11] removed.

[3:14:11] But the position itself is

[3:14:12] the position as identified by

[3:14:16] the charter.

[3:14:17] Okay.

[3:14:17] All right.

[3:14:18] I think that I'm not going to

[3:14:23] be able to support this today

[3:14:24] either because it's just it's

[3:14:24] very confusing.

[3:14:25] How do you get half an hour for

[3:14:29] the meeting?

[3:14:30] So I my worry is that there

[3:14:30] might not be enough votes to

[3:14:31] pass this.

[3:14:31] I don't know.

[3:14:32] But I'm starting to look around

[3:14:35] the room and if we don't I

[3:14:36] believe that that would set off

[3:14:36] some problems with the timing

[3:14:37] of our budget.

[3:14:40] Is that correct?

[3:14:41] If this were not to pass today,

[3:14:42] what would be the result?

[3:14:46] We'll charter Section 290

[3:14:46] requires that something be

[3:14:47] passed today.

[3:14:51] You don't have to pass

[3:14:52] the ordinance in its current

[3:14:52] form.

[3:14:53] You can make changes to it and

[3:14:58] pass it with those changes.

[3:14:59] >> So then could we take out

[3:15:00] the things that changed this

[3:15:04] morning and bring those back at

[3:15:05] a further date?

[3:15:05] Yes, you could do that.

[3:15:06] Okay, sure.

[3:15:10] This is only the first reading

[3:15:11] and we're gonna have to amend

[3:15:11] this ordinance when the mou is

[3:15:12] get done with our employees.

[3:15:14] So there's plenty of time for

[3:15:15] detailed changes to be made.

[3:15:16] I'm just getting the sense that

[3:15:22] we would like to not I'm not

[3:15:22] here to be able to comment that

[3:15:23] I would like to not vote on

[3:15:24] the title changes that were

[3:15:24] just made half an hour before

[3:15:27] the meeting until I have a

[3:15:28] better understanding But that

[3:15:28] does mean they can't be in

[3:15:29] the future So that would be my

[3:15:33] idea is to just take out these

[3:15:33] few that were on the slide.

[3:15:39] Brooke recommended updates

[3:15:40] the working title and then I

[3:15:40] would be comfortable passing

[3:15:41] the rest of it but I'll leave

[3:15:42] that up to my colleagues.

[3:15:45] Thank you.

[3:15:46] Thank you Council Mom all But

[3:15:47] can you pull up the slide that

[3:15:48] she's referring to to make sure

[3:16:18] that

[3:16:26] it says recommended

[3:16:27] updates to working titles And

[3:16:28] it said Assistant manager

[3:16:28] Assistant to the city manager

[3:16:37] Business Center manager I just

[3:16:37] was like I think it's it's like

[3:16:40] I'm so sorry There's no page

[3:16:41] number down here.

[3:16:41] So yes, these are the ones that

[3:16:42] changed, right?

[3:16:47] So the first one did not change

[3:16:47] from earlier.

[3:16:51] The one that did change was

[3:16:52] the 2112 and 21272153 was

[3:16:52] already listed there as chief

[3:16:57] upper chief officer as well So

[3:16:58] 2112 which is the assistant

[3:16:59] city manager with the working

[3:17:03] title of chief of staff was not

[3:17:04] new.

[3:17:04] We had already presented that

[3:17:05] in our presentation And then

[3:17:09] the assistant to the city

[3:17:09] manager 2.53 was also not new

[3:17:10] with the new ones from this

[3:17:12] morning or 2112 and 227

[3:17:13] changes.

[3:17:13] Okay okay Get all of those

[3:17:14] Didn't have any explanation of

[3:17:19] why we're doing this in

[3:17:20] the staff report so I would

[3:17:20] just get rid of all those for

[3:17:25] now until we come back.

[3:17:25] Okay.

[3:17:26] I want to hear from

[3:17:26] Councilmember Foster but

[3:17:30] possibly amend the motion and

[3:17:31] figure out how to refer to that

[3:17:32] particular slide.

[3:17:32] >> I can't remember.

[3:17:33] Foster Oh yes.

[3:17:37] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.

[3:17:42] And I too I mean I'm hesitant

[3:17:48] to take a position and if you

[3:17:49] can maybe what would help me is

[3:17:54] to understand a better

[3:17:55] understanding of the charter.

[3:17:55] Everything that I received

[3:18:00] prior to this simply indicated

[3:18:00] that the item had to be

[3:18:01] introduced and approved along

[3:18:05] with the budget.

[3:18:06] So I'm not understanding now We

[3:18:12] are here today saying that this

[3:18:12] absolutely has to be passed and

[3:18:18] yet we are receiving last

[3:18:18] minute changes that differ from

[3:18:23] I'm going to assume all of

[3:18:24] the briefings that we received

[3:18:25] and I'm not inclined to try and

[3:18:30] make heads or tails of this as

[3:18:30] we are sitting at the dais.

[3:18:31] I think that's just bad

[3:18:35] preparation and irresponsible

[3:18:36] of us in not understanding

[3:18:40] the true impacts.

[3:18:41] So if you can help me to try

[3:18:48] and understand or forward me

[3:18:48] something someone pull

[3:18:49] something make it part of

[3:18:49] the back of the record,

[3:18:53] something here I think I could

[3:18:54] help a little bit here.

[3:18:58] Charter Section 290 controls

[3:18:59] the salary ordinance.

[3:18:59] Okay.

[3:19:04] And it says no later than APRIL

[3:19:05] 15th of each year the council

[3:19:05] shall introduce a salary

[3:19:06] ordinance and that's what we're

[3:19:11] doing today.

[3:19:11] Right.

[3:19:12] And that the way the process

[3:19:13] works is you introduce a salary

[3:19:16] ordinance the way you want to

[3:19:17] If there are things in here

[3:19:17] that the mayor recommended that

[3:19:22] you don't like you can remove

[3:19:23] it and introduce it as you like

[3:19:24] and the process contemplates

[3:19:24] it.

[3:19:28] Then the salary ordinance that

[3:19:29] the council introduces goes to

[3:19:30] the mayor and the mayor then

[3:19:34] determines whether or not he's

[3:19:35] going to accept those changes

[3:19:40] or veto it and then it comes

[3:19:41] back to the council for

[3:19:42] the second reading to pass

[3:19:42] either override the veto or

[3:19:45] accept the mayor's changes.

[3:19:52] That's the process In 290 that

[3:19:52] makes me more concerned as this

[3:19:53] was generated by the mayor's

[3:19:56] office we did not generate said

[3:20:02] document already I'm not going

[3:20:02] to be voting.

[3:20:07] I'm going to be voting no on

[3:20:08] this today Again for me and

[3:20:14] just for us to receive this

[3:20:14] type of information, the volume

[3:20:15] of the information for me is

[3:20:20] just unacceptable.

[3:20:21] I can appreciate the need for

[3:20:21] more time but today I'm just

[3:20:26] not prepared based on all of

[3:20:26] the conversations I had prior

[3:20:27] to this meeting to then approve

[3:20:32] and put my name on this as we

[3:20:33] are dealing with what we were

[3:20:33] dealing with.

[3:20:34] So thank you.

[3:20:38] I guess my response are just to

[3:20:39] clarify we're interpret the to

[3:20:42] introduce as actually passing

[3:20:43] the for our first reading that

[3:20:43] we often call it.

[3:20:44] Okay thank you for clarifying

[3:20:44] that.

[3:20:45] I'll have some other feedback.

[3:20:49] I'll go first to Councilmember

[3:20:50] camp you Thank you Council But

[3:20:50] the point I was going to make

[3:20:54] right there's introduces a

[3:20:54] legal word that doesn't mean to

[3:20:55] actually introduce So the next

[3:20:56] line that you didn't read MR.

[3:21:00] Brady is that the mayor is

[3:21:01] the one who proposes it.

[3:21:02] So that's a that's a confusing

[3:21:02] component of something you just

[3:21:03] said.

[3:21:03] Thank you.

[3:21:06] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[3:21:07] Thank you Council member Carpio

[3:21:13] So one other question that I

[3:21:13] think Council member Eli Rivera

[3:21:18] brought up maybe others did

[3:21:19] the auto allowance there was

[3:21:19] that perception that the way

[3:21:24] the language was written that

[3:21:25] somebody would be getting out

[3:21:25] of allowance that doesn't

[3:21:26] currently get it or a position

[3:21:30] of getting out allowance that

[3:21:30] doesn't I want to keep this

[3:21:31] from an individual but from a

[3:21:35] position is getting an auto

[3:21:36] allowance that doesn't

[3:21:37] currently get auto allowance.

[3:21:42] >> No, there's no changes into

[3:21:42] the individuals that are

[3:21:43] currently in the position that

[3:21:44] were what they will be

[3:21:44] receiving.

[3:21:45] There's no changes to that is

[3:21:47] to codify what is currently

[3:21:47] happening today.

[3:21:47] >> All right.

[3:21:54] Well clearly I think everybody

[3:21:54] in the room can figure out

[3:21:55] counting the five and I don't

[3:21:58] think there's five there.

[3:21:58] We can all bemoan the language

[3:22:03] of the charter that jams this

[3:22:04] up right at the end And given

[3:22:09] the complexities of where all

[3:22:10] the energy is on the budget no

[3:22:11] one spent a lot of you guys are

[3:22:12] stuck in a heck of a lot of

[3:22:15] time on Earth with what you do

[3:22:16] every year but bumping up

[3:22:17] against it gives us very little

[3:22:21] leeway.

[3:22:22] I heard a little bit of a

[3:22:30] glimmer of of hope to meet

[3:22:31] the charter requirements if we

[3:22:37] move If I meant my motion to

[3:22:38] move the staff recommendation

[3:22:43] but not the updates to

[3:22:47] the working titles for

[3:22:48] 211121532112 and 2127 which

[3:22:54] were the four on that slide

[3:22:54] that make a little more

[3:22:55] comfortable.

[3:22:55] Are you comfortable with that

[3:22:59] council member with Oh yeah

[3:23:00] okay Now not everybody has

[3:23:05] spoken so if we and I always

[3:23:06] like the attorneys to remind me

[3:23:06] because as much as I remember

[3:23:10] this off if we don't get five

[3:23:11] votes then no action has

[3:23:16] happened And so we still are

[3:23:17] kind of out there still

[3:23:17] correct?

[3:23:18] I don't think Council Council

[3:23:22] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Thank

[3:23:22] you.

[3:23:23] >> Council PRESIDENT I just

[3:23:24] want to add one piece of

[3:23:28] commentary to here to separate

[3:23:28] out just distinguishing what

[3:23:29] we're doing relate and as it

[3:23:35] relates to existing individuals

[3:23:36] because again I understand that

[3:23:36] but I think what the salary

[3:23:37] ordinance does is a little bit

[3:23:38] different than that.

[3:23:40] So when you stated that no

[3:23:41] existing individuals are

[3:23:42] getting new benefits or when I

[3:23:46] understand that that is

[3:23:46] the case unless we move them to

[3:23:47] different positions which could

[3:23:51] happen.

[3:23:52] But what the salary ordinance

[3:23:53] is doing is that it is adding

[3:23:58] an additional classification to

[3:23:58] receive management

[3:24:03] administrative leave as well as

[3:24:04] an auto allowance.

[3:24:05] And so I think the reason why

[3:24:06] it's it's a concern is not

[3:24:10] necessarily whether you're

[3:24:11] going to move an existing

[3:24:11] individual there.

[3:24:12] I'm going to note that right

[3:24:13] now from what I'm beginning to

[3:24:16] see it's likely because there's

[3:24:17] an unbudgeted position that

[3:24:17] would be moved in that

[3:24:22] direction at some point perhaps

[3:24:22] in part as a result of

[3:24:23] the council's discussions.

[3:24:28] But it could also mean that if

[3:24:28] that's the salary ordinance

[3:24:29] that it's updated moving

[3:24:30] forward that gets carried into

[3:24:30] the future.

[3:24:35] But now we have an additional

[3:24:35] position that's receiving these

[3:24:36] extra benefits that could be

[3:24:37] for someone else in the future

[3:24:40] if so chosen And I think that

[3:24:41] is important at a time when we

[3:24:41] are already asking for cuts

[3:24:46] that that is not the kind of

[3:24:47] moves that we make.

[3:24:47] So consider that I understand

[3:24:48] the moment that you've made I

[3:24:50] don't know that that fully

[3:24:51] addresses those additional

[3:24:57] changes as well.

[3:24:58] I don't know if it takes

[3:24:59] additional time to think about

[3:24:59] what would and I appreciate

[3:25:00] that you're trying to work

[3:25:01] through that.

[3:25:03] Thank you.

[3:25:03] All right.

[3:25:04] Thank you.

[3:25:04] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

[3:25:08] the staff have any response to

[3:25:09] the council PRESIDENT Pro Tem I

[3:25:15] didn't see any And again I

[3:25:16] appreciate what the town has

[3:25:16] said.

[3:25:17] What actually all my colleagues

[3:25:21] have said this is going forward

[3:25:21] doesn't take effect JULY 1st

[3:25:27] and it really is dependent on a

[3:25:27] what proposed budget coming out

[3:25:28] tomorrow does and what

[3:25:33] the council's reaction to it.

[3:25:34] And then third, the reaction by

[3:25:37] the council to this coming back

[3:25:44] at a second reading.

[3:25:44] So this is just something

[3:25:45] the charter forces into which

[3:25:49] is no excuse to be able to to

[3:25:50] support something like that.

[3:25:51] I think we're all frustrated by

[3:25:51] that.

[3:25:52] But I just kind of wanted to

[3:25:57] kind of clarify that

[3:25:58] Councilmember over there you're

[3:25:59] back on the lights.

[3:25:59] >> Thank you.

[3:26:01] Council PRESIDENT I appreciate

[3:26:02] the comments of Council

[3:26:02] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee And I

[3:26:07] think to that there's a point I

[3:26:07] want to make and then a

[3:26:13] question and as council

[3:26:14] PRESIDENT Was saying, I think

[3:26:18] some of this is muddied by some

[3:26:19] of the changes that were made

[3:26:20] last year and the council's

[3:26:24] budget action and then

[3:26:25] the implementation of that

[3:26:30] budget or lack thereof.

[3:26:31] And so one of the things that

[3:26:31] I'm trying to understand here

[3:26:36] is whether they are existing

[3:26:37] people who are already working

[3:26:42] at the city or not is whether

[3:26:43] there are folks who moved from

[3:26:49] titles that were their

[3:26:49] political appointees into

[3:26:50] operational positions or

[3:26:54] operational titles and now

[3:26:55] receive benefits that are meant

[3:27:01] for folks in operational

[3:27:02] positions for example the auto

[3:27:03] allowance or the administrative

[3:27:10] leave.

[3:27:11] And this isn't about any one

[3:27:12] individual but the muddying of

[3:27:15] those waters between

[3:27:16] the political appointees of

[3:27:22] the mayor, any mayor and

[3:27:23] the folks in operational

[3:27:23] positions.

[3:27:24] That makes it more challenging

[3:27:24] makes all of us more

[3:27:28] challenging For me as well.

[3:27:34] So the amendment that you made

[3:27:35] council PRESIDENT I don't know

[3:27:40] this for sure I'm going to ask

[3:27:41] Councilperson Pro Tem I think

[3:27:44] what you were mentioning that

[3:27:44] there's the two additional

[3:27:45] positions as well the assistant

[3:27:46] to the city manager and

[3:27:50] the business center manager

[3:27:51] those are the two positions

[3:27:52] that create the opening for

[3:27:56] what you describe, correct?

[3:27:57] Yeah.

[3:27:58] I think now that I've looked at

[3:27:58] it I think the amendment that's

[3:28:03] been proposed is to remove

[3:28:04] the working title changes on

[3:28:05] that page those four changes

[3:28:05] that would only make sense to

[3:28:10] also remove any updates to

[3:28:10] exhibits actually in h because

[3:28:11] those are updates that also tie

[3:28:12] in to those working title

[3:28:15] changes because that makes

[3:28:16] sense and that would that would

[3:28:17] resolve all that.

[3:28:22] Yeah.

[3:28:23] Okay so I don't know if you

[3:28:23] have thoughts on that.

[3:28:27] I just I would I would feel

[3:28:28] much better about where we end

[3:28:28] up if that if those those

[3:28:34] changes were made as well.

[3:28:35] And to COUNCILMAN Final point I

[3:28:36] think recognizing this is a

[3:28:39] huge undertaking and there are

[3:28:40] many, many, many different

[3:28:40] positions and classifications

[3:28:41] and titles throughout the city

[3:28:45] it's a big city with many

[3:28:46] workers.

[3:28:46] Business center manager sounds

[3:28:51] so far from what I understand

[3:28:52] this particular person or

[3:28:57] people who would do that role

[3:28:58] are actually doing something

[3:28:59] that sounds a little more even

[3:29:03] a little closer to reality

[3:29:03] would be really helpful to me.

[3:29:09] So I'll stop there.

[3:29:09] Thank you.

[3:29:09] All right.

[3:29:10] i guess the engineer and we

[3:29:11] thought that would be a

[3:29:15] waterfall by not doing those

[3:29:16] four and then it would fall to

[3:29:16] 15 each.

[3:29:20] But to be explicit in there So

[3:29:21] let me see if I can get

[3:29:22] the language right And I know

[3:29:27] City clerk will fix it for me

[3:29:27] if I want to move the staff

[3:29:32] recommendation but not making

[3:29:33] the changes to the work, not

[3:29:33] making the updates to

[3:29:37] the working titles for

[3:29:42] 211121532112 and 2127 and also

[3:29:43] delete the changes on exhibit f

[3:29:49] g h and someone Please check

[3:29:49] that there isn't something else

[3:29:52] on those exhibits that we don't

[3:29:57] really want to change.

[3:30:21] Yeah I think so but f right I'm

[3:30:21] sorry.

[3:30:22] Council PRESIDENT Also exhibit

[3:30:22] c Exhibit c as well.

[3:30:32] Exhibit c, c c and Cat.

[3:30:32] So they want assurances that

[3:30:33] the exhibits are going to

[3:30:34] change not just the working

[3:30:37] titles.

[3:30:38] So okay so let me restate that

[3:30:39] To move the staff

[3:30:44] recommendation with rejecting

[3:30:45] the updates of the working

[3:30:54] titles for 211121 by 321122127

[3:30:54] and eliminate the corresponding

[3:30:55] changes and exhibit c as in Cat

[3:30:56] Epperson, Frank g.

[3:30:59] S and George and h as and

[3:31:10] Howard and update and eliminate

[3:31:15] the references in section 2.1

[3:31:15] and Section ten.

[3:31:16] So I think that is now

[3:31:22] the universal changes that

[3:31:23] every place that changes and

[3:31:24] that's it's still the core

[3:31:24] thing that counts and everyone

[3:31:28] Wolpert wanted to make sure

[3:31:29] that every place that those

[3:31:30] would show up are also

[3:31:34] eliminated.

[3:31:40] We have a concern by one of

[3:31:40] the council members I don't

[3:31:41] know how to do you want to

[3:31:42] comes from the mayor's office

[3:31:45] or whoever wants to respond to

[3:31:46] making these eliminating those

[3:31:51] changes and that's fine.

[3:31:51] Yes.

[3:31:52] Understanding that we're

[3:31:53] limited by the charter.

[3:31:53] We need to get this done today

[3:31:57] We're fine with those minutes.

[3:31:58] >> Okay.

[3:32:03] So I'll wait or pause briefly

[3:32:04] while the city clerk's office

[3:32:08] on the second half Well I guess

[3:32:08] I just have one question

[3:32:09] because I mean we're sort of

[3:32:14] workshopping the salary

[3:32:15] ordinance on the fly and I want

[3:32:15] to be very thoughtful about

[3:32:16] doing that.

[3:32:19] Is there anything about

[3:32:20] the changes that are in front

[3:32:25] of us in terms of not changing

[3:32:26] the working titles and making

[3:32:31] the corresponding changes in

[3:32:32] those other sections that

[3:32:37] impacts the changes?

[3:32:38] Anything about anybody's job

[3:32:43] currently?

[3:32:44] In other words, if we do what

[3:32:45] is it?

[3:32:49] Does anything change for any

[3:33:01] particular individual by

[3:33:02] the making the change that is

[3:33:02] in front of us or does

[3:33:04] everybody stay exactly the same

[3:33:17] right now if if everybody in

[3:33:22] the city their situation today

[3:33:23] will be the same as our

[3:33:24] situation tomorrow if we adopt

[3:33:29] this then I'm fine with it.

[3:33:30] If this somehow changes things

[3:33:35] for somebody at the city I

[3:33:36] would want to know that Yeah,

[3:33:36] correct.

[3:33:37] >> Councilmember It does not

[3:33:37] change anything for folks in

[3:33:40] their positions currently and

[3:33:41] that was the nature of this

[3:33:42] item as well as it was a

[3:33:42] cleanup item really.

[3:33:47] But adds no additional benefits

[3:33:48] and does not change the status

[3:33:48] quo for folks right now.

[3:33:48] >> Okay.

[3:33:49] Thank you.

[3:33:52] Okay.

[3:33:53] Satisfied with that.

[3:33:53] Okay.

[3:33:54] Thank you.

[3:33:54] We're still working on that.

[3:33:55] So we'll go next to

[3:33:58] Councilmember Bonaparte.

[3:33:58] >> Thank you.

[3:33:59] I too am trying to figure out

[3:34:00] exactly what we're doing but I

[3:34:05] appreciate you council

[3:34:06] PRESIDENT And council because

[3:34:07] that's what I was trying to do.

[3:34:07] So thank you for catching that

[3:34:10] and putting it in And now I

[3:34:11] feel that that was what I was

[3:34:11] trying to say.

[3:34:12] >> So I appreciate you.

[3:34:12] Thank you.

[3:34:16] I never make the assumption

[3:34:16] that somebody will follow

[3:34:17] through with every step of

[3:34:17] the way.

[3:34:27] >> Councilmember Foster I guess

[3:34:28] first I want to say I

[3:34:29] appreciate my colleague's

[3:34:35] efforts to meet what I guess we

[3:34:40] are hearing is the call of

[3:34:40] the charter.

[3:34:46] However, especially for me as

[3:34:52] we are dealing with the issues

[3:34:53] that we are dealing with I use

[3:34:54] the word accountability quite a

[3:35:03] bit and I feel that I have to

[3:35:04] continue to take my position to

[3:35:09] not support this because I am

[3:35:16] still hearing confusion And I

[3:35:16] think if we are going to

[3:35:22] continue to talk about

[3:35:23] accountability from this dais

[3:35:23] at some point we have to hold

[3:35:28] those accountable And

[3:35:28] unfortunately today that would

[3:35:34] be the staff that is in front

[3:35:34] of us today.

[3:35:39] >> And so I am going to

[3:35:40] continue with my position to

[3:35:45] not support this.

[3:35:46] But I will say as we are trying

[3:35:51] to improve our city processes

[3:35:57] meeting expectations of

[3:35:58] the public as we talk about

[3:36:03] public trust and transparency,

[3:36:03] I think these types of

[3:36:09] instances are what erodes those

[3:36:10] discussions and that public

[3:36:15] trust And so I will pause

[3:36:15] there.

[3:36:16] I will not be supporting this.

[3:36:21] I will have my office fall back

[3:36:21] to whatever gets passed and

[3:36:22] make sure we see what's

[3:36:26] corrected so that we can

[3:36:27] continue to look at this and

[3:36:32] review this as it we'll have to

[3:36:32] go through a second read and as

[3:36:33] we deal with the budget.

[3:36:37] But today just on principle

[3:36:38] alone we on this day did not

[3:36:39] create this.

[3:36:44] It sounds as if each office has

[3:36:45] provided the time to city staff

[3:36:49] to go through the briefings and

[3:36:50] to try to do this with the size

[3:36:54] of organization and potential

[3:36:55] implications.

[3:36:55] I'm just not comfortable.

[3:37:01] Council PRESIDENT So thank you

[3:37:01] .

[3:37:02] >> Fair enough, sir.

[3:37:02] We'll go to Councilmember

[3:37:07] Campbell to the H.R. Department

[3:37:13] present this take this up and

[3:37:14] present and make slides etc..

[3:37:15] Yes, the department along with

[3:37:20] several departments is a

[3:37:20] collective organized collective

[3:37:21] group that we work on with our

[3:37:22] ordinance committee.

[3:37:24] There's representatives of

[3:37:25] several department to provide

[3:37:26] input but it is the mayor's

[3:37:26] proposal and so I take the lead

[3:37:31] on that And then the stuff that

[3:37:32] you just passed out to us right

[3:37:36] as a council meeting began is

[3:37:37] different than the stuff that

[3:37:37] we were given a few days before

[3:37:42] the council meeting online to

[3:37:42] go over.

[3:37:43] There's only a few changes and

[3:37:44] of the ones that we highlighted

[3:37:44] with regard to the title

[3:37:48] changes you know it's so it's

[3:37:54] so confusing even just

[3:37:55] the title changes because you

[3:38:00] have three titles in there, not

[3:38:00] just two.

[3:38:01] It's not like saying change

[3:38:03] this one to that one just

[3:38:03] changing this one which

[3:38:04] actually is this one Changing

[3:38:05] it to this one makes it very

[3:38:10] confusing You know about

[3:38:10] the crisis method Keep it

[3:38:11] simple stupid.

[3:38:15] That is not simple and

[3:38:15] especially at the last minute

[3:38:16] to get whatever this is and to

[3:38:22] try to figure out how does this

[3:38:22] change from this and how is

[3:38:23] that different from what's

[3:38:27] online and stuff we've already

[3:38:28] gone over in the briefing How

[3:38:28] is that different and what is

[3:38:29] you know, it's just this is

[3:38:34] huge.

[3:38:35] Look at this ordinance.

[3:38:35] Look at how long how many pages

[3:38:39] it has and leave it as life

[3:38:40] insurance.

[3:38:40] It has everything in it.

[3:38:41] I don't expect this.

[3:38:45] I just expect some title

[3:38:45] changes or councilmember and

[3:38:46] fully recognize the late

[3:38:52] editions, the late edits and

[3:38:53] how the position that put you

[3:38:57] and the council in But

[3:38:57] understanding how major and

[3:38:58] sizable this ordinance actually

[3:39:02] is being able to move forward

[3:39:03] with some portions of it today

[3:39:04] I think is the best move and

[3:39:08] we'll revisit items that were

[3:39:09] moved through the amended

[3:39:09] motion at a later date.

[3:39:10] But I think proceeding today

[3:39:12] with some form of this is most

[3:39:18] beneficial.

[3:39:19] Thank you.

[3:39:19] Council PRESIDENT.

[3:39:20] All right.

[3:39:20] Thank you.

[3:39:21] Council Mayor Campbell will go

[3:39:25] back to Councilmember camp You

[3:39:25] Thank you very much Council

[3:39:26] PRESIDENT MR. Brady The charter

[3:39:30] also doesn't have any

[3:39:30] suggestion on what happens if

[3:39:31] we don't introduce it by

[3:39:36] tomorrow.

[3:39:36] So what happens if we don't

[3:39:42] introduce a by tomorrow?

[3:39:42] Well, we'd be in unchartered

[3:39:43] territory.

[3:39:48] Let's say I take your point but

[3:39:49] charter section 290 just

[3:39:54] contemplates that it will be

[3:39:54] introduced it will be passed

[3:39:55] today and transmitted to

[3:40:00] the mayor for his consideration

[3:40:00] .

[3:40:00] Okay?

[3:40:00] Right.

[3:40:01] It doesn't say what would

[3:40:06] happen if it if it didn't So

[3:40:07] the sense you just said there

[3:40:07] it's contemplated that it will

[3:40:08] just pass today.

[3:40:12] That's exactly the approach of

[3:40:13] staff is that they just

[3:40:14] contemplated this would be

[3:40:14] passed today.

[3:40:15] I think we have some ideas that

[3:40:18] rules Committee about charter

[3:40:19] change that might want to fix

[3:40:19] some of these data so that we

[3:40:20] don't get caught off guard like

[3:40:23] this.

[3:40:24] That said, when the city

[3:40:30] governing document says

[3:40:30] the council shall introduce

[3:40:31] that's not MAY or MAY not

[3:40:36] decide upon that is a order

[3:40:36] from the voters of the city of

[3:40:41] San Diego that we shall

[3:40:42] introduce it by tomorrow.

[3:40:45] So though I share some of

[3:40:52] the not confusion but

[3:40:57] the feeling of strangeness of

[3:40:58] last second changes the charter

[3:40:59] says shall so I feel compelled

[3:41:03] it I have to vote yes and

[3:41:04] different branches of

[3:41:05] government know that So maybe

[3:41:09] we should fix that too.

[3:41:09] Thank you.

[3:41:10] Council member can't be your

[3:41:11] attorney perspective as always

[3:41:16] appreciate it.

[3:41:16] As a council member of

[3:41:17] the Council member Yellow River

[3:41:21] apologies can read.

[3:41:22] I wanted to thank my colleagues

[3:41:22] for the work that was done and

[3:41:26] you for making adjustments to

[3:41:32] get to a place where we can

[3:41:32] move forward as the Charter

[3:41:33] requires and also address some

[3:41:38] of the concerns we had.

[3:41:39] I also just for the sake of

[3:41:44] transparency, I do think that

[3:41:45] there's an important

[3:41:45] conversation to be had again

[3:41:46] given the context of the budget

[3:41:49] situation that we're in where

[3:41:50] we are saying that every dollar

[3:41:50] matters.

[3:41:51] We are telling our residents

[3:41:56] that and what we ask for from

[3:41:57] them We are telling our workers

[3:42:01] that and what we are asking

[3:42:02] them to sacrifice that there

[3:42:07] needs to be a conversation

[3:42:08] about how those at the upper

[3:42:14] upper ranks of

[3:42:15] the organization, those who are

[3:42:21] being compensated the best

[3:42:21] There needs to be some

[3:42:26] conversations about where where

[3:42:27] there's room for some trimming

[3:42:33] there and regardless of who is

[3:42:33] getting a new automobile

[3:42:39] allowance or not I just I won't

[3:42:40] be frustrated.

[3:42:40] That'll be part of the budget

[3:42:41] conversation that there are

[3:42:44] folks who are making or slated

[3:42:45] to be eligible to make quite a

[3:42:46] bit of a pretty good salary, a

[3:42:46] pretty healthy salary who would

[3:42:50] still be eligible for those

[3:42:51] benefits.

[3:42:51] And again in a time we're

[3:42:54] asking for sacrifice or for

[3:42:54] sacrifice from residents.

[3:43:01] We're asking for sacrifice from

[3:43:01] folks who do very, very

[3:43:02] difficult jobs and barely

[3:43:08] barely earn enough to live in

[3:43:08] the city if that that's going

[3:43:09] to be part of the conversation

[3:43:14] at least from my end when it

[3:43:15] when the budget conversation

[3:43:15] kicks up.

[3:43:15] And I just wanted to be

[3:43:16] transparent about that.

[3:43:20] But thank you again for

[3:43:20] the work on this.

[3:43:21] I think it's my college opinion

[3:43:22] as close of attention as they

[3:43:25] get to the details here.

[3:43:26] Thank you Council member Eli

[3:43:26] Rivera.

[3:43:31] And just to kind of wrap up

[3:43:32] before I call for the vote and

[3:43:33] that the motion is now up on

[3:43:36] the screen, I want to thank

[3:43:37] the city attorney for adding

[3:43:38] some additional language to

[3:43:38] make sure that if we didn't

[3:43:43] identify everything that

[3:43:43] there's a closing statement

[3:43:48] that makes sure that it does

[3:43:49] get picked up And I know

[3:43:50] the city attorney will look at

[3:43:50] it very closely to make sure

[3:43:51] the I's are dotted and t's are

[3:43:51] crossed.

[3:43:55] So to speak on that.

[3:43:55] So you know what?

[3:44:00] I don't often talk like this.

[3:44:01] I normally defer to my

[3:44:02] colleagues to kind of kick off

[3:44:07] the conversation and that's

[3:44:07] what my staff wanted me to do.

[3:44:08] >> But I knew this was going to

[3:44:09] go a little bit south.

[3:44:12] You know, I just frankly think

[3:44:13] I'm better than everybody else

[3:44:13] at doing this kind of nimble

[3:44:18] repositioning and listening to

[3:44:18] you all very carefully and what

[3:44:23] the tenor of your comments are

[3:44:24] .

[3:44:24] A member of the public this

[3:44:25] morning made an interesting

[3:44:26] comment about my behavior last

[3:44:26] week and said I saw a lot of

[3:44:29] fear in your face That wasn't

[3:44:30] fear last week.

[3:44:30] That was anger.

[3:44:31] So in case there's any

[3:44:35] confusion, this is anger in my

[3:44:35] face today.

[3:44:36] You're amazing individuals.

[3:44:37] You're working really hard.

[3:44:41] These are incredibly complex

[3:44:42] things But for the council to

[3:44:43] do its job the thing I always

[3:44:47] worry about is a good idea

[3:44:48] failing or not getting

[3:44:53] the support because of how it

[3:44:54] was introduced.

[3:44:54] I think you all know that and I

[3:44:55] really don't need to sound like

[3:44:58] I'm lecturing you You know

[3:44:59] that.

[3:44:59] But as council PRESIDENT I feel

[3:45:00] like I have to make that we can

[3:45:00] do better.

[3:45:04] We can do things we won't

[3:45:05] always get no votes but we can

[3:45:05] do better.

[3:45:10] We can make less confusion by

[3:45:11] the public because perception

[3:45:15] is as important as the reality

[3:45:16] .

[3:45:16] So this clearly is falling

[3:45:17] victim to that.

[3:45:18] We're trusting that this will

[3:45:22] get us to where we need to be.

[3:45:23] The budget will come out

[3:45:24] tomorrow probably reflects all

[3:45:28] these changes were anticipated

[3:45:29] so everybody should be prepared

[3:45:29] for that.

[3:45:29] The budget probably will

[3:45:30] reflect some of these things

[3:45:34] but we get two bites at

[3:45:35] the Apple the final budget as

[3:45:36] well as the second reading of

[3:45:36] the salary ordinance.

[3:45:41] So we're all particularly

[3:45:42] challenged and we'll go back to

[3:45:46] Councilmember open.

[3:45:47] Thank you.

[3:45:47] Council PRESIDENT I'm just

[3:45:48] looking at the language for

[3:45:49] the motion that is in front of

[3:45:51] us and I will leave it to

[3:45:52] the attorneys But I just want

[3:45:53] to make sure that what we say

[3:45:56] strike reference to those for

[3:45:57] classifications, so on and so

[3:45:58] forth and then as well as any

[3:46:03] other corresponding references

[3:46:03] of the salary audits and

[3:46:04] exhibits.

[3:46:04] But that doesn't have

[3:46:05] the effect of eliminating those

[3:46:15] positions.

[3:46:15] >> It's just eliminating

[3:46:16] the working title.

[3:46:16] You're not eliminating

[3:46:17] the positions.

[3:46:20] Okay.

[3:46:20] >> As long as that's on

[3:46:21] the record and everybody's

[3:46:31] comfortable with it that I a

[3:46:32] very good point Councilmember

[3:46:32] Webber and it should reference

[3:46:33] the reference to the working

[3:46:37] title says MR. Reidy noted so

[3:46:37] that it's clear we're not

[3:46:38] eliminating those

[3:46:38] classifications.

[3:46:42] >> Okay so let's go ahead and

[3:46:43] make that change.

[3:46:48] >> Thank you.

[3:46:49] Yeah, a lot of sharp eyed

[3:46:49] individuals on the dais today

[3:46:54] so thank you all.

[3:46:54] This is not the way how we want

[3:46:57] to do legislation but it's all

[3:48:37] important You want to come up

[3:50:36] with

[3:53:51] an

[3:56:17] All right cooler heads got

[3:56:18] the and responded to council

[3:56:22] member Whitman's concerns with

[3:56:23] the changes that you see in

[3:56:24] front of us and look like

[3:56:24] everybody from the city

[3:56:27] attorney's office to H.R.

[3:56:28] To the city clerk are

[3:56:34] comfortable with that.

[3:56:34] Councilmember Whitburn, are you

[3:56:37] guys what what?

[3:56:37] Make sure you're good with

[3:56:38] the changes.

[3:56:38] Yes.

[3:56:41] Yeah, I'll take you all right

[3:56:42] with that.

[3:56:43] See nobody else on the lights.

[3:56:46] We have a motion there as shown

[3:56:47] on the screen.

[3:56:50] >> Clerk please call the roll.

[3:56:50] >> I'm sorry.

[3:56:51] The voting system.

[3:56:59] Please cast your vote That

[3:57:05] passes 7 to 1 with

[3:57:05] Councilmember Foster voting no

[3:57:08] and Councilmember Moreno absent

[3:57:09] .

[3:57:09] All right.

[3:57:10] Let me extend my appreciation

[3:57:14] to my colleagues for working

[3:57:15] through this on the dias to

[3:57:15] H.R.

[3:57:19] Personnel everybody that worked

[3:57:20] so hard to bring this item

[3:57:20] forward.

[3:57:24] I know there's a lot of work

[3:57:25] involved in that so thank you

[3:57:25] very much on that.

[3:57:29] So and to the public who was

[3:57:29] here primarily for a different

[3:57:31] reason thank you for your

[3:57:36] patience.

[3:57:37] So with that clerk please

[3:57:42] introduce item s503 Thank you

[3:57:43] Council PRESIDENT Item as 503

[3:57:43] as amendments of the Rules of

[3:57:46] Council for consistency with

[3:57:47] State Senate Bill number 707

[3:57:51] and recordings of closed

[3:57:52] session.

[3:57:52] This item is not subject to

[3:57:53] the mayor's veto If you'd like

[3:57:56] to speak on this item please be

[3:57:57] sure to submit your speaker

[3:57:57] slip to the front of the room

[3:58:00] in the clear box as well as

[3:58:01] raise your hand by pressing

[3:58:02] Star nine or the raise your

[3:58:02] hand icon.

[3:58:05] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

[3:58:10] right with that I right I think

[3:58:10] I recognize my staff but please

[3:58:11] introduce yourself for

[3:58:12] the record and let us know how

[3:58:15] much time you need.

[3:58:15] Thank you.

[3:58:16] Council PRESIDENT And City

[3:58:16] council members.

[3:58:17] My name is Abby Reuter.

[3:58:20] I am senior policy Advisor to

[3:58:20] Council PRESIDENT Joe LaCava.

[3:58:21] I will need eight minutes for

[3:58:25] this presentation and again

[3:58:25] when you're ready State Bill

[3:58:29] 707 was signed into law in 2025

[3:58:30] and modified the Ralph m Brown

[3:58:34] Act which governs local

[3:58:34] legislative bodies and

[3:58:35] the public's right to attend

[3:58:36] and participate in local public

[3:58:39] meetings.

[3:58:39] Local changes to comply with sb

[3:58:43] 707 must be effective by JULY

[3:58:48] first 2026 This presentation

[3:58:48] will focus on two provisions of

[3:58:49] the Brown Act modified by sb

[3:58:49] 707.

[3:58:53] The first is the same time

[3:58:53] allotment for virtual and

[3:58:57] in-person speakers and

[3:58:57] the second is the policy on

[3:58:58] disruption of telephonic or

[3:59:02] internet service rule 2.6 and

[3:59:02] Rule 2.7 of the Rules of

[3:59:03] Counsel are proposed to be

[3:59:07] modified in a new rule 2.15 is

[3:59:11] proposed to be created.

[3:59:12] The changes to Rule 2.6 add in

[3:59:13] language for both virtual and

[3:59:16] in-person speakers to group

[3:59:17] themselves into organized

[3:59:17] presentations.

[3:59:21] The modifications are intended

[3:59:22] to be minimal to provide

[3:59:23] flexibility for the Clerk and

[3:59:26] Council administration to

[3:59:27] adjust after the JULY 1st

[3:59:27] deadline based on public

[3:59:29] feedback staffing capacity and

[3:59:34] technology to facilitate

[3:59:35] organized presentations, a

[3:59:39] process is proposed recognizing

[3:59:40] that it is difficult for public

[3:59:40] speakers to gather the correct

[3:59:41] number of speakers With our

[3:59:43] current meeting management

[3:59:44] process, Council agendas will

[3:59:45] include a notice indicating

[3:59:48] whether public public comment

[3:59:49] for that information or

[3:59:52] discussion item will be one

[3:59:53] minute one minute 30s or two

[3:59:53] minutes.

[3:59:57] Implementation of this for each

[3:59:58] Council committee will be at

[3:59:58] the discretion of the Chair of

[4:00:01] that committee as meeting

[4:00:02] management is the purview of

[4:00:03] the Council PRESIDENT For City

[4:00:03] Council meetings and committee

[4:00:06] chairs for committee meetings.

[4:00:07] Organized presentations will be

[4:00:11] taken before individual public

[4:00:12] comment and will be limited to

[4:00:13] a maximum of 15 minutes or

[4:00:13] less.

[4:00:16] This responds to the feedback

[4:00:17] from the public and committee

[4:00:17] which was heard at the FEBRUARY

[4:00:20] Rules Committee meeting.

[4:00:21] Those who wish to have an

[4:00:25] organized presentation in

[4:00:26] person or virtual would need to

[4:00:26] fill out a form provided by

[4:00:30] the office of the City Clerk at

[4:00:30] least 24 hours before the start

[4:00:31] of a regularly scheduled

[4:00:35] council or committee meeting as

[4:00:35] posted on the meeting agenda

[4:00:36] for special meetings that are

[4:00:40] posted less than 48 hours in

[4:00:40] advance of the meeting.

[4:00:43] The form would need to be

[4:00:44] submitted 18 hours before

[4:00:44] the start of the meeting.

[4:00:47] The 24 hour submission window

[4:00:48] strikes a balance between

[4:00:49] providing sufficient

[4:00:52] administrative time for

[4:00:52] the clerk or council

[4:00:53] administration to facilitate

[4:00:57] the presentation with providing

[4:00:57] time for the public to

[4:00:58] coordinate who would be part of

[4:00:59] the organized presentation

[4:01:02] Electronic presentation

[4:01:02] materials intended to be

[4:01:03] displayed during the organized

[4:01:07] presentation would be due at

[4:01:07] least two hours prior to

[4:01:08] the start of the meeting as

[4:01:11] posted on the meeting agenda.

[4:01:12] This will allow for the clerk

[4:01:12] or council administration staff

[4:01:16] to upload the electronic file

[4:01:17] and scan for cyberthreats prior

[4:01:18] to display during the meeting

[4:01:21] and troubleshoot if there are

[4:01:21] any technical issues separating

[4:01:22] the two submission time frames

[4:01:26] is intended to provide

[4:01:27] the public as much preparation

[4:01:27] time as possible.

[4:01:31] Electronic files would not be

[4:01:32] shared in advance with city

[4:01:32] staff council offices or

[4:01:36] the public and presentation

[4:01:36] materials are not required for

[4:01:37] any organized presentation.

[4:01:40] The groups MAY opt to do an

[4:01:41] organized presentation without

[4:01:41] any additional audio or visual

[4:01:45] aids.

[4:01:46] The organized presentation form

[4:01:46] will need to be filled out

[4:01:50] properly and every member of

[4:01:51] the group must be present.

[4:01:51] Whether that be all in person

[4:01:52] for an in-person or organized

[4:01:55] presented portion or all

[4:01:56] virtually for an organized

[4:01:56] presentation delivered

[4:02:00] virtually during their time to

[4:02:00] speak.

[4:02:00] City Clerk and Council

[4:02:01] administration will work

[4:02:02] towards allowing mixed

[4:02:05] attendance or a combination of

[4:02:05] group members in-person and

[4:02:06] virtual.

[4:02:09] As technology and staffing

[4:02:10] allow if some members of

[4:02:10] the group are not present at

[4:02:14] the time of the presentation,

[4:02:15] the group's time will be

[4:02:16] reduced proportionally.

[4:02:16] This process would go beyond

[4:02:20] Brown Act requirements and also

[4:02:20] apply to committee meetings.

[4:02:24] For consistency and clarity.

[4:02:25] Additionally, this item

[4:02:28] proposes a change to Rule 2.7

[4:02:29] related to knowledge and public

[4:02:29] comment.

[4:02:32] This would clarify that the 16

[4:02:33] minute maximum per issue

[4:02:33] applies separately for

[4:02:37] in-person and virtual speakers

[4:02:37] .

[4:02:38] If there are eight or more

[4:02:39] speakers on a specific issue in

[4:02:39] person.

[4:02:42] The maximum time for that issue

[4:02:43] is 16 minutes which is two

[4:02:45] minutes per speaker up to eight

[4:02:46] speakers.

[4:02:46] And this is being clarified to

[4:02:49] have a separate maximum of 60

[4:02:50] minutes for virtual speakers on

[4:02:50] that issue.

[4:02:53] Seeding of time would continue

[4:02:54] to be prohibited for non agenda

[4:02:58] public comment.

[4:02:59] This item also proposes a new

[4:02:59] rule 2.15 to comply with

[4:03:03] the requirement for a policy on

[4:03:04] disruption to telephonic or

[4:03:04] internet service.

[4:03:08] It clarifies the difference

[4:03:09] between a disruption prior to

[4:03:09] or during closed session versus

[4:03:10] open session.

[4:03:13] If the disruption affects a

[4:03:14] public meeting, council would

[4:03:14] recess for an hour or until

[4:03:18] services restored whichever is

[4:03:18] quicker.

[4:03:19] City staff will make good faith

[4:03:22] efforts to restore service

[4:03:23] including troubleshooting

[4:03:24] platform or teleconferencing

[4:03:27] software resetting or replacing

[4:03:28] audio visual equipment

[4:03:29] attempting alternative

[4:03:29] connection methods contacting

[4:03:33] necessary support staff or

[4:03:33] service providers and switching

[4:03:34] to backup equipment or

[4:03:37] platforms if available and

[4:03:38] these restoration efforts will

[4:03:38] be documented.

[4:03:43] If not restored after one hour,

[4:03:44] council MAY either adjourn

[4:03:45] the meeting or make findings to

[4:03:45] vote it and continue an open

[4:03:50] session.

[4:03:50] For efficiency this item

[4:03:51] proposes to include amendments

[4:03:54] to Rule 8.4 which currently

[4:03:54] requires transcription of

[4:03:59] closed sessions except those

[4:03:59] related to personnel matters.

[4:04:00] The Brown Act does not require

[4:04:01] closed sessions to be

[4:04:04] transcribed and it is very

[4:04:04] costly to have a court reporter

[4:04:05] attend and transcribe these

[4:04:06] meetings.

[4:04:08] The proposed amendments will

[4:04:09] provide for recording closed

[4:04:10] sessions allowing for

[4:04:10] efficiency in eliminating this

[4:04:16] costly requirement.

[4:04:16] We provided an informational

[4:04:17] presentation to the Rules

[4:04:18] Committee in FEBRUARY and

[4:04:21] the committee voted to forward

[4:04:22] the item to full council in

[4:04:22] MARCH.

[4:04:23] However, these modifications

[4:04:26] would not take effect until

[4:04:26] JULY 1st, 2026.

[4:04:30] The requested action today is

[4:04:31] to adopt an ordinance amending

[4:04:34] Chapter two Article two

[4:04:35] Division one of the San Diego

[4:04:35] Municipal Code relating to

[4:04:36] the rules of Council.

[4:04:39] Thank you and I'm available for

[4:04:40] any questions.

[4:04:40] >> All right.

[4:04:41] Thank you for the presentation

[4:04:45] and all the work you put into

[4:04:46] this as well as Clark Fuentes

[4:04:49] and her team Tyler Birch and

[4:04:49] his team and the city

[4:04:50] attorney's office and

[4:04:53] responding to the state law

[4:04:54] changes and updating our rules

[4:04:55] of counsel.

[4:04:58] So with that Clark, please

[4:04:59] proceed with public testimony

[4:04:59] on s5o3.

[4:05:04] >> Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT.

[4:05:05] Before I begin with the public

[4:05:05] testimony here, I would just

[4:05:06] like to note that this item did

[4:05:07] receive four comments in favor

[4:05:08] and zero comments in opposition

[4:05:08] of your economic forum which

[4:05:12] have been distributed to

[4:05:12] the Council.

[4:05:13] We have quite a number of

[4:05:14] speakers here in council

[4:05:18] chambers so I will be going

[4:05:18] down to a minute each if we can

[4:05:19] have Al Del Mastro, Jeffrey

[4:05:22] Shuter and Victoria Lipper So

[4:05:23] please come up to the front.

[4:05:24] Al de Mastro you can come to

[4:05:29] the microphone.

[4:05:29] Sure.

[4:05:33] Geoffrey Shuter, can you begin

[4:05:33] ?

[4:05:34] >> Yeah.

[4:05:34] Thank you.

[4:05:39] Council members.

[4:05:40] We appreciate the work that was

[4:05:40] done by the council presidents

[4:05:44] office and the clerk trying to

[4:05:44] preserve what we think is an

[4:05:48] important ability to testify in

[4:05:49] front of the council and make

[4:05:53] organized presentations So we

[4:05:53] think these are workable

[4:05:54] regulations.

[4:05:54] The only thing that we would

[4:05:58] like to see potentially as we

[4:05:58] get used to the new methodology

[4:06:02] of things is to have me be able

[4:06:03] to speak here for example that

[4:06:07] have our time seeders be

[4:06:07] virtual.

[4:06:08] Otherwise I would have to speak

[4:06:09] virtually and I think it's a

[4:06:12] better experience for both

[4:06:12] sides of the dais to have as

[4:06:16] many people be able to come in

[4:06:16] chambers.

[4:06:17] It's also I think a matter of

[4:06:21] of respect if you turn it

[4:06:21] the other way asking everybody

[4:06:22] to come down here.

[4:06:25] Council meetings often run past

[4:06:26] two hours.

[4:06:27] So you're you're sort of forced

[4:06:27] to park in the parking

[4:06:30] structure as $18 to come here.

[4:06:31] Places like sandag actually

[4:06:36] validate and make the process a

[4:06:36] lot easier.

[4:06:37] So maybe we could try and do

[4:06:37] things like that as well.

[4:06:40] Thank you.

[4:06:41] >> Thank you, Victoria.

[4:06:46] You have several people sitting

[4:06:46] your time if they can please

[4:06:47] raise their hand.

[4:06:50] >> Deborah Switzer as I call

[4:06:51] your name.

[4:06:51] Thank you.

[4:06:52] Diversity is a Bill Crooks

[4:06:55] robber Montana Susan Ward Kelly

[4:06:59] a trembling Eric Edelman.

[4:07:00] I don't see anybody.

[4:07:04] Eric Edelman.

[4:07:04] No.

[4:07:05] Thomas Marquez.

[4:07:08] Susan Baldwin.

[4:07:14] Patricia Long.

[4:07:15] Thank you.

[4:07:18] Felicity Sandusky.

[4:07:18] David Swarns.

[4:07:23] Bob Link.

[4:07:24] David Martin.

[4:07:28] Dana Give it to Van Jones and

[4:07:28] Matt Driver.

[4:07:29] Thank you.

[4:07:30] You'll have 15 minutes.

[4:07:35] Please proceed.

[4:07:35] >> Okay.

[4:07:40] Thank you very much.

[4:07:41] >> Good afternoon PRESIDENT

[4:07:46] LaCava and Council members as

[4:07:46] most of you know by now my name

[4:07:47] is Victoria Lorenzo and I'm

[4:07:48] the chair of the cpc Committee

[4:07:50] Planners Committee.

[4:07:51] We are the umbrella

[4:07:51] organization for your planning

[4:07:55] groups.

[4:07:55] The community planning groups

[4:07:56] are comprised of I don't know

[4:07:59] if you know this but over 400

[4:08:00] probably close to 500 board

[4:08:01] members if you count up all

[4:08:04] the community members that are

[4:08:05] elected board members through

[4:08:09] the city.

[4:08:10] >> Thank you for that.

[4:08:10] Next slide.

[4:08:11] Thank you for the opportunity

[4:08:11] to speak today.

[4:08:15] I was diligent in distributing

[4:08:15] our correspondence for a seat

[4:08:19] at the table to your offices

[4:08:19] over the past three months and

[4:08:20] you should have received

[4:08:24] letters from your district CPGs

[4:08:24] that have recommended support

[4:08:25] for a seat at the table as

[4:08:25] well.

[4:08:28] >> I would also like to thank

[4:08:28] PRESIDENT LaCava staff and

[4:08:29] the City Clerk's office for

[4:08:32] their work in accommodating sb

[4:08:33] 7o7 and recognize the balancing

[4:08:34] act required with virtual

[4:08:38] access.

[4:08:38] Our hope is that the following

[4:08:39] information will also improve

[4:08:43] and potentially alleviate some

[4:08:43] of the administrative tasks for

[4:08:44] the city clerk's office.

[4:08:47] >> Next slide.

[4:08:48] So why does a seat at the table

[4:08:51] tie directly with sb 707

[4:08:52] Quoting directly from our state

[4:08:55] lawmakers sb 707 presents an

[4:08:56] opportunity to strengthen our

[4:08:57] governments and empower

[4:09:00] community members to be

[4:09:01] engaged.

[4:09:01] Ultimately we aim to create

[4:09:05] robust public meetings and

[4:09:06] increase participation across

[4:09:07] the state because a seat at

[4:09:11] the table advances the same

[4:09:11] objective as sb 707 is

[4:09:13] well-suited for consideration.

[4:09:18] >> As part of today's procedure

[4:09:19] Next slide let's identify

[4:09:19] the problem.

[4:09:24] Going back in time to 2013 when

[4:09:24] PRESIDENT LaCava was chair,

[4:09:28] LaCava of the cpc, he put

[4:09:29] together a presentation about

[4:09:33] CPGs and cpc.

[4:09:34] One of the things that stood

[4:09:34] out to me in his presentation

[4:09:37] was that he recognized that

[4:09:38] CPGs had been mischaracterized

[4:09:42] as gatekeepers.

[4:09:43] >> And as you so eloquently put

[4:09:44] it in your past presentation

[4:09:47] CPGs are not gatekeepers.

[4:09:48] >> Rather they are

[4:09:48] the recognized link between

[4:09:52] communities and City Hall.

[4:09:53] >> It's like in fact today's

[4:09:57] diverse cpgs fully acknowledge

[4:09:58] the city's goals and the need

[4:10:02] for affordable housing and

[4:10:03] thoughtful growth.

[4:10:03] Their role is not to oppose

[4:10:07] development but to ensure that

[4:10:08] development aligns with adopted

[4:10:08] community plans and

[4:10:12] infrastructure realities.

[4:10:13] Next slide.

[4:10:13] So what does the San Diego

[4:10:17] General plan say?

[4:10:17] It happens to be very specific

[4:10:18] about the reality of planning

[4:10:21] groups which have laid out

[4:10:22] which are laid out in this

[4:10:22] slide.

[4:10:23] But putting this in a nutshell,

[4:10:26] the general plan ratifies

[4:10:27] community participation through

[4:10:27] planning groups.

[4:10:31] That means CPGs are not just a

[4:10:32] courtesy.

[4:10:32] They are part of the city's

[4:10:34] planning framework.

[4:10:39] Next slide.

[4:10:40] >> But why are CPGs different

[4:10:41] than the general public?

[4:10:45] Simply put because community

[4:10:45] planning groups were

[4:10:46] established and recognized by

[4:10:49] you the City Council.

[4:10:50] Community planning groups are

[4:10:54] democratically elected members

[4:10:54] that operate under structural

[4:10:55] procedures involved involving

[4:10:59] the Brown Act Council policy

[4:11:00] and adopted bylaws.

[4:11:04] Their positions reflect

[4:11:05] deliberation and votes taken in

[4:11:05] noticed public meetings.

[4:11:09] Distinguishing them from all

[4:11:09] other public comment.

[4:11:14] >> Next slide.

[4:11:15] >> We set a seat at the table

[4:11:15] to dsd as they provide meeting

[4:11:16] procedures for the Planning

[4:11:19] Commission.

[4:11:20] While we appreciate that

[4:11:20] Director Lowe took the time to

[4:11:21] respond to the response she

[4:11:24] provided frames the issue that

[4:11:25] the public including CPGs

[4:11:29] already receive the same amount

[4:11:29] of speaking time as project

[4:11:30] applicants.

[4:11:30] So no changes needed.

[4:11:33] Director Lowe's misstep in her

[4:11:34] analysis is including CPGs with

[4:11:38] the general public.

[4:11:38] >> For purposes of public

[4:11:39] comment.

[4:11:42] Next slide.

[4:11:43] In fact, the city's planning

[4:11:47] groups should be recognized for

[4:11:48] who they are and that they have

[4:11:48] the ability to present their

[4:11:52] deliberated recommendations in

[4:11:53] a structured and predictable

[4:11:53] way.

[4:11:54] Currently planning group

[4:11:57] recommendations are included in

[4:11:58] the staff reports when going

[4:11:59] before planning Commission and

[4:12:02] the City Council.

[4:12:02] This is represented in

[4:12:03] the graphic on the left side of

[4:12:03] the screen.

[4:12:07] The tangled funnel however

[4:12:08] comments about that about that

[4:12:11] vote are often not conveyed by

[4:12:12] staff to the deciding body and

[4:12:13] can even be tangled into

[4:12:16] the staff's recommendation

[4:12:17] without true context.

[4:12:17] It is imperative that

[4:12:21] the community's comments are

[4:12:22] untangled from city staff

[4:12:22] reports.

[4:12:23] This is represented by

[4:12:26] the graphic on the right side

[4:12:27] of the screen.

[4:12:28] The Untangled Ecosystem.

[4:12:31] This shows direct communication

[4:12:31] by interested party to

[4:12:32] the deciding by each interested

[4:12:35] party to the deciding body.

[4:12:36] Without this process it's clear

[4:12:40] that we are missing our seat at

[4:12:40] the table.

[4:12:41] Next slide.

[4:12:45] Right now structural imbalance

[4:12:46] is the reality at City Council

[4:12:50] Project presenters receive

[4:12:51] structured presentation time

[4:12:55] and engage with decision makers

[4:12:55] .

[4:12:56] In contrast, CPGs are not

[4:12:57] provided with equitable

[4:12:59] representation in city meetings

[4:13:00] without going through a

[4:13:01] convoluted process to get that

[4:13:04] representation.

[4:13:05] Even though CPGs are part of

[4:13:06] the city's own framework next

[4:13:12] life today's proposed changes

[4:13:17] including organized

[4:13:17] presentations to meeting

[4:13:20] procedures required by sb 707

[4:13:21] do not solve the inequity

[4:13:21] problem as it applies to

[4:13:25] planning groups.

[4:13:26] As far as preparation,

[4:13:30] deliberation, narrative control

[4:13:30] and presentation tools, those

[4:13:31] boxes are checked for

[4:13:35] applicants and city staff.

[4:13:36] For CPGs this same the same is

[4:13:36] not true.

[4:13:40] This framework

[4:13:40] disproportionately limits

[4:13:41] the community's ability to

[4:13:45] provide intelligently organize

[4:13:46] input particularly on complex

[4:13:50] land use matters where impacts

[4:13:50] are significant and where

[4:13:51] community recommendations

[4:13:55] require explanation and

[4:13:55] response to inquiry by

[4:13:56] the deciding board or deciding

[4:14:00] body.

[4:14:01] A fair process requires equal

[4:14:01] access to the tools of

[4:14:05] deliberation and not just a

[4:14:06] stopwatch.

[4:14:10] >> Next slide I want to make

[4:14:11] sure that cbc is not presenting

[4:14:11] the problem without

[4:14:12] the solution.

[4:14:14] But before we go there, let's

[4:14:15] talk about the gymnastics of

[4:14:16] current community planning

[4:14:19] group participation.

[4:14:20] Currently CPGs must rely on

[4:14:24] ceded public comment time at

[4:14:24] the previous Rules committee

[4:14:25] last month.

[4:14:28] Once I arrived I knew I had at

[4:14:29] least seven time theatrics

[4:14:32] which at best gave me 14

[4:14:32] minutes If PRESIDENT LaCava

[4:14:33] provided two minutes each.

[4:14:37] My presentation was close to

[4:14:37] ten minutes so I thought it

[4:14:41] would be okay until right

[4:14:42] before public comments started

[4:14:42] and we were informed of the one

[4:14:43] minute public comment time

[4:14:45] limit which meant leaving out

[4:14:46] multiple slides of information

[4:14:50] and I had to adjust my

[4:14:51] presentation on the fly.

[4:14:51] Meanwhile the other presenters

[4:14:52] were allowed to choose their

[4:14:55] presentation time and converse

[4:14:56] back and forth with committee

[4:14:57] members.

[4:15:02] This is a perfect illustration

[4:15:02] as to why a seat at the table

[4:15:05] is critical to our community's

[4:15:05] .

[4:15:06] In the updated staff report I

[4:15:07] did notice one proposed change

[4:15:11] that would require advance

[4:15:11] notice of the public comment

[4:15:12] duration.

[4:15:15] That is a positive step for

[4:15:16] general public comments.

[4:15:16] But the City Council also needs

[4:15:20] to understand the unique

[4:15:20] tension placed on community

[4:15:21] planning groups.

[4:15:25] The city's advisory bodies with

[4:15:25] the desire and expectation to

[4:15:26] provide structured meaningful

[4:15:30] input without any structured

[4:15:30] meaningful way to present it.

[4:15:37] Next slide.

[4:15:38] >> The seat at the table

[4:15:39] proposal is a request for

[4:15:41] the City Council Its committees

[4:15:42] and the Planning Commission to

[4:15:43] establish formal structured

[4:15:46] presentation times for

[4:15:47] community representatives

[4:15:48] Number one equivalent substance

[4:15:51] and time grant CPGs Equal

[4:15:52] duration to project proponents

[4:15:56] on neighborhood specific items

[4:15:57] allowing them to use PowerPoint

[4:16:01] and present coherent analyzes.

[4:16:02] Number two Accessible light

[4:16:06] dialog allows cpg presenters to

[4:16:06] fill questions and remain

[4:16:10] accessible to decision makers

[4:16:11] for further engagement during

[4:16:11] the hearing.

[4:16:14] Number three Citywide

[4:16:15] representation Extend these

[4:16:17] same procedures to the cpc.

[4:16:22] Next slide.

[4:16:23] >> This modest procedural

[4:16:23] adjustment simply ensures that

[4:16:27] the city's recognizes recognize

[4:16:28] CPGs can civile respectfully

[4:16:32] and productive.

[4:16:33] We present their perspective

[4:16:34] with the same clarity and time

[4:16:38] afforded to staff and project

[4:16:38] applicants.

[4:16:41] It also provides incentives for

[4:16:42] developers to work with

[4:16:42] the communities.

[4:16:43] It provides better and more

[4:16:47] informed decisions for council

[4:16:47] members.

[4:16:48] It increases transparency and

[4:16:51] it restores trust in

[4:16:52] the process.

[4:16:56] >> Next slide.

[4:16:57] >> So what are we specifically

[4:16:58] asking for?

[4:16:58] We are asking for c.

[4:17:02] C.

[4:17:03] Or cpg Present a presentation

[4:17:06] section in the meeting agendas

[4:17:07] .

[4:17:07] On this slide is a simple

[4:17:08] example of an item presentation

[4:17:11] order.

[4:17:12] >> Our specific requirements

[4:17:12] would be setting a minimum

[4:17:16] guaranteed speaking time that

[4:17:17] checks the box for preparation

[4:17:17] clarity.

[4:17:21] Allow decision makers to ask

[4:17:22] questions of cpg or cpg

[4:17:23] presenters which checks the box

[4:17:26] for the delivery process and

[4:17:27] allows CPGs to be untangled

[4:17:31] from staff's narrative which

[4:17:31] checks the box for

[4:17:32] the community having control

[4:17:34] over its own narrative.

[4:17:39] >> Next slide.

[4:17:40] >> We believe that this is an

[4:17:41] important procedural change

[4:17:44] that is in full alignment with

[4:17:45] the goals of sb 707 robust

[4:17:49] community involvement has been

[4:17:49] diminished and the state

[4:17:50] lawmakers are helping correct

[4:17:54] that.

[4:17:54] Amending today's discussion

[4:17:55] item and adding the structured

[4:17:58] presentation time for CPGs and

[4:17:59] cpc is the right course of

[4:18:03] action.

[4:18:03] >> We appreciate your

[4:18:07] consideration of this important

[4:18:08] procedural change for your

[4:18:09] community planning

[4:18:09] representatives.

[4:18:13] But before I finished I do want

[4:18:16] to provide one more example

[4:18:18] that just happened last month

[4:18:24] at the Planning Commission and

[4:18:24] why and a seat at the table is

[4:18:25] is needed.

[4:18:26] >> So the Planning Department

[4:18:28] recently departed from

[4:18:29] recognizing cpg as a main

[4:18:33] community advisory body.

[4:18:34] Most recently at the MARCH 19th

[4:18:38] Planning Commission meeting

[4:18:38] the Mid-City Community's Plan

[4:18:39] update is currently in review

[4:18:39] process.

[4:18:42] I was surprised to learn that

[4:18:43] the city had created a 16

[4:18:44] member working working group.

[4:18:47] Working Group described as

[4:18:48] inclusive engagement.

[4:18:49] However only four of the seats

[4:18:53] were allocated to the CPGs at

[4:18:53] one seat apiece.

[4:18:57] The very groups the city's own

[4:18:58] policies identify as

[4:19:02] the primary structured voice of

[4:19:02] the community.

[4:19:03] Instead of prioritizing cpg

[4:19:07] input the city placed them in

[4:19:07] the minority within a

[4:19:11] separately appointed group.

[4:19:12] This shifts community input

[4:19:16] away from elected accountable

[4:19:17] planning groups and toward city

[4:19:18] staff controlled structure.

[4:19:21] One of the planning

[4:19:22] commissioners even described

[4:19:23] this approach as disrespectful

[4:19:26] to the volunteers who serve on

[4:19:26] our planning groups.

[4:19:30] And I think that says a lot.

[4:19:38] >> Lastly, I want to mention

[4:19:39] that we would like to thank

[4:19:39] the late Howard Wayne.

[4:19:44] He is an important civic

[4:19:44] leader.

[4:19:45] For his early guidance on this

[4:19:48] concept as he was the one that

[4:19:49] put this into the mind of Linda

[4:19:52] Vista's planning group in

[4:19:52] particular Felicity.

[4:19:53] So I want to thank you for your

[4:19:57] time today and I hope that you

[4:19:58] will sincerely consider

[4:19:58] the planning groups and our

[4:20:02] voices before you our City

[4:20:02] Council.

[4:20:06] >> Thank you very much.

[4:20:07] >> Elder Mastro, if you can

[4:20:16] please come forward.

[4:20:16] Hi.

[4:20:21] My name is El del Mastro.

[4:20:22] I think the real importance of

[4:20:25] this is that I can remember

[4:20:29] JUNE of our JULY of 2024 when

[4:20:30] we tried when Shawn Eli Rivera

[4:20:34] tried to get rid of virtual

[4:20:35] comment and how many people

[4:20:35] that are limited in

[4:20:36] the community that are disabled

[4:20:39] or whatever who couldn't come

[4:20:40] and participate this way.

[4:20:44] So I'm all for as much input as

[4:20:45] possible here and not having

[4:20:49] this eye having us cut off from

[4:20:49] that.

[4:20:50] I'm glad that that wasn't

[4:20:54] approved that that time I

[4:20:54] remember seeing it was probably

[4:20:55] the most embarrassing moment

[4:20:56] that I ever saw in this

[4:20:59] committee is when I saw 250

[4:20:59] people here.

[4:21:03] It was pulling off the agenda

[4:21:04] and the first 30 people that

[4:21:07] cheered as Shawn was PRESIDENT

[4:21:08] Scolded all 30 people in

[4:21:08] public.

[4:21:09] What an embarrassment that was

[4:21:12] to the city.

[4:21:13] And to see this go on like that

[4:21:17] is ugly that we should be

[4:21:18] having more open open dialog.

[4:21:21] >> Anyway, thank you.

[4:21:22] >> I'm sorry the five minute

[4:21:23] timer going to those

[4:21:27] participating remotely again.

[4:21:27] It'll be one minute each

[4:21:31] starting with the original.

[4:21:32] >> Oh my gosh Joe, you were

[4:21:32] angry.

[4:21:33] You were totally fearful And so

[4:21:36] in this inverted world you're

[4:21:37] going to say that Which means

[4:21:38] that when you're in anger

[4:21:41] you're in fear anyway.

[4:21:42] Yeah.

[4:21:42] It's funny how in an inverted

[4:21:43] world people think that

[4:21:46] encroaching on free speech and

[4:21:47] putting rules on it gives you

[4:21:47] more freedom.

[4:21:51] But the world we live in when

[4:21:51] that happens it's like freedom

[4:21:55] of speech is all you need to

[4:21:56] know And yet we have all these

[4:22:00] rules and regulations and

[4:22:01] policies to come in and you

[4:22:02] know, impede on that all while

[4:22:05] people say we want to hear from

[4:22:05] more of you.

[4:22:06] I mean even Joe you were like

[4:22:09] oh my gosh, it was so nice

[4:22:10] being able to hear like 15

[4:22:11] minutes from somebody because

[4:22:11] we can actually really hear

[4:22:15] what you're saying yet you guys

[4:22:16] get people looking at it saying

[4:22:19] that you want to hear from what

[4:22:19] they have to say.

[4:22:20] It's just so sad because you

[4:22:24] know you shouldn't be you know

[4:22:25] determining either like over

[4:22:26] eight people want to speak on

[4:22:29] this only on the eight people

[4:22:29] can that mean that you're going

[4:22:30] to limit like just any other

[4:22:31] item to that amount of people

[4:22:33] It's just so ridiculous what

[4:22:33] you guys do when people call it

[4:22:36] freedom.

[4:22:36] >> Thank you Tony.

[4:22:41] Please unmute.

[4:22:46] Yes, hello?

[4:22:47] >> Can you hear me?

[4:22:47] Yes.

[4:22:47] Please proceed.

[4:22:48] I think you city council are

[4:22:50] you doing.

[4:22:51] I just wanted to speak and

[4:22:52] comment as a as the vice chair

[4:22:55] of the Boulevard Planning

[4:22:56] Group.

[4:23:00] I want to thank so much group

[4:23:01] that presented before us just

[4:23:01] now and gave the conversation

[4:23:05] about the cpg and

[4:23:06] the difficulty that the public

[4:23:07] faces in being able to leave a

[4:23:10] public comment.

[4:23:11] I was just commenting yesterday

[4:23:13] and how the last five months

[4:23:14] five months I've gotten for

[4:23:15] parking tickets just coming

[4:23:18] down to express my opinions and

[4:23:19] they stated it perfectly how

[4:23:19] the sandbox is extremely

[4:23:23] limited and it really makes it

[4:23:24] super difficult for people to

[4:23:28] be able to come in and express

[4:23:28] themselves and to give public

[4:23:29] comment and to actually help

[4:23:33] you all make these decisions

[4:23:34] that require public input in

[4:23:39] order to be made And so I would

[4:23:39] encourage you all to develop

[4:23:48] some type of like a parking

[4:23:49] return system for parking

[4:23:49] included.

[4:23:50] >> My apologies Blair Beckman

[4:23:53] You can definitely email city

[4:23:54] clerk at San diego.Gov.

[4:23:54] >> Please proceed.

[4:23:54] Blair.

[4:23:58] Hi Where Beekman parking

[4:23:58] validation is the term.

[4:23:59] Yeah.

[4:24:02] Really good idea.

[4:24:03] Really good public comment from

[4:24:04] the first persons.

[4:24:04] They've been working a lot on

[4:24:07] that.

[4:24:08] We're entering a new generation

[4:24:09] of how do you talk about public

[4:24:12] participation in the process?

[4:24:12] It's awesome.

[4:24:13] They were doing they're doing

[4:24:16] really good because look what

[4:24:17] we can be developing.

[4:24:18] Good luck that you can have

[4:24:21] the you can work more on the 30

[4:24:22] ideas of public comment time

[4:24:22] This is a perfect time and I

[4:24:26] think we could have had 34

[4:24:26] items.

[4:24:27] What other things?

[4:24:31] Oh, I sent you a letter on

[4:24:32] working on public meeting

[4:24:32] issues overall this past

[4:24:33] Thursday.

[4:24:38] I hope you can review We could

[4:24:39] have chosen the path of of

[4:24:43] ending Zoom altogether and

[4:24:44] instead we're choosing to to

[4:24:48] continue it And thank you for

[4:24:48] that sort of ideas Public

[4:24:49] accessibility Good luck.

[4:24:53] We're working on those concepts

[4:24:54] and really want to respect it.

[4:24:55] In this post-covid area area we

[4:24:58] find good ideas.

[4:24:59] >> Thank you.

[4:24:59] Thank you.

[4:25:00] Next is 8813.

[4:25:11] You can please unmute and 813d

[4:25:12] see that you're on muted but we

[4:25:12] did not hear you here in

[4:25:13] council chambers.

[4:25:14] Not sure if the device that

[4:25:17] you're speaking in to me.

[4:25:17] Okay.

[4:25:18] There you go.

[4:25:18] Got it.

[4:25:18] Yep.

[4:25:20] Okay so control here.

[4:25:20] Okay.

[4:25:21] So first off I want to start

[4:25:22] off by acknowledging

[4:25:25] the positive which is

[4:25:25] the expanded language access.

[4:25:26] That's great.

[4:25:26] Okay.

[4:25:30] Broader inclusion.

[4:25:31] So yeah, on the surface all of

[4:25:34] this sounds like progress but

[4:25:35] this isn't just expanded

[4:25:35] access.

[4:25:39] This is control over how

[4:25:40] the public is allowed to

[4:25:41] participate because when you

[4:25:44] when you digitize public

[4:25:45] comment you also gain

[4:25:45] the ability to mute filter and

[4:25:50] remove their comments.

[4:25:50] And that brings me to the most

[4:25:54] concerning piece is

[4:25:55] the expanded authority to

[4:25:55] remove so-called disruptive

[4:25:56] speakers But who just who

[4:25:59] defines disruptive?

[4:26:00] Is it someone being loud or

[4:26:01] someone being uncomfortable to

[4:26:04] listen to Because the people

[4:26:05] who get labeled disruptive are

[4:26:06] often the ones calling out

[4:26:09] the conflicts of interest,

[4:26:10] the corruption and the lack of

[4:26:11] transparency in you all.

[4:26:14] So the one to actually show up

[4:26:15] are who this really impacts And

[4:26:20] the majority of the public

[4:26:20] isn't here.

[4:26:21] So there could be either

[4:26:23] concluded 8700 if you can

[4:26:24] please unmute the five minute

[4:26:25] timer has also concluded there

[4:26:27] are four speakers in the queue

[4:26:28] and no additional speakers will

[4:26:28] be taken.

[4:26:32] >> Please proceed.

[4:26:32] Thank you.

[4:26:36] 3.8 Joyce and you are to.

[4:26:37] This is absolutely wonderful

[4:26:41] because this is our world folks

[4:26:45] and we're slowly waking up to

[4:26:46] the reality that it's happening

[4:26:50] and it's exponentially speeding

[4:26:50] up.

[4:26:51] So belt buckle up your seat

[4:26:55] belt because this is just

[4:26:56] the beginning.

[4:27:01] And zoom will zoom into

[4:27:02] the future and where it will go

[4:27:05] we do not know.

[4:27:06] I'm thrilled that we're going

[4:27:06] to be able to speak.

[4:27:10] I don't know what our voices

[4:27:10] will be in the future and what

[4:27:14] these new worlds will be like.

[4:27:15] They're going to be something

[4:27:16] we can't even see right now.

[4:27:16] So thank you.

[4:27:20] Thank you for this PRESIDENT Or

[4:27:20] Carver Thank you.

[4:27:21] Thank you everybody.

[4:27:25] That's on board for this I'm

[4:27:26] sure we're going to get 100%

[4:27:29] vote on this if some people are

[4:27:30] missing.

[4:27:30] But in any case thank you.

[4:27:31] Thank you.

[4:27:34] I'm on board Up to all Thank

[4:27:35] you.

[4:27:36] >> Next zoom user if you can

[4:27:38] please unmute and then zoom

[4:27:39] user.

[4:27:39] >> Thanks for taking my call.

[4:27:44] Hey perfect example of seat at

[4:27:45] the table happened just in

[4:27:49] the last topic you guys said

[4:27:49] showing what I would say

[4:27:50] the city council doesn't even

[4:27:54] have a seat at the table It's

[4:27:54] all done in the backroom deals

[4:27:55] with the mayor.

[4:27:59] The mayor throws this thing in

[4:27:59] front of you guys like it's you

[4:28:03] got a seat at the table and say

[4:28:04] you say yes or we have 30

[4:28:05] minutes to decide on this.

[4:28:08] We have to do it now That's not

[4:28:09] a seat at the table.

[4:28:09] That was a backroom deal.

[4:28:13] It live on tv.

[4:28:14] So anyway we should have a new

[4:28:18] amendment to call the mayor

[4:28:18] like Bozo the Clown or

[4:28:23] something And refer to

[4:28:24] the mayor as bozo because once

[4:28:28] we have these bargaining things

[4:28:28] for the new budget it's going

[4:28:32] to be wild man And we could

[4:28:33] always have the assistant to

[4:28:34] the mayor get him like a

[4:28:38] unicycle and a big red nose.

[4:28:39] So when it comes to that

[4:28:40] meetings you could tell

[4:28:42] the mayor that.

[4:28:42] >> Thanks a lot.

[4:28:47] And Kate, your final speaker.

[4:28:47] >> Oh, hi.

[4:28:48] Can you hear me?

[4:28:51] Yes.

[4:28:52] Please proceed.

[4:28:52] Okay, great.

[4:28:53] So my name is Kate.

[4:28:56] I work in District three and

[4:28:56] I'm a resident of District

[4:28:56] nine.

[4:28:59] I am a big fan of Senate Bill

[4:29:00] 707I think there is tremendous

[4:29:01] opportunity to enhance public

[4:29:04] participation in these

[4:29:05] meetings.

[4:29:05] I actually would encourage you

[4:29:06] all to send this back to

[4:29:09] the city attorney's office

[4:29:10] today to comply with Senate

[4:29:11] Bill 707 without unnecessarily

[4:29:15] burdening public commenters to

[4:29:15] the professionalization of

[4:29:16] the public comment process.

[4:29:19] I believe that community

[4:29:19] planning groups deserve to have

[4:29:20] a seat at the table and they

[4:29:24] should have a way too public to

[4:29:25] comment in these meetings

[4:29:25] without it.

[4:29:29] With that sort of dialog and

[4:29:30] those sort of identifying

[4:29:30] times.

[4:29:34] >> But the practice of seeding

[4:29:34] time benefits not just citizens

[4:29:38] but also city council it helps

[4:29:39] us be more effective in our

[4:29:39] public comments And I know that

[4:29:43] the incredibly competent office

[4:29:44] of the city clerk could figure

[4:29:44] out how to do same time

[4:29:47] allotment to seed time across

[4:29:48] virtual and in-person

[4:29:48] platforms.

[4:29:52] >> Thank you.

[4:29:53] Thank you.

[4:29:53] That does conclude public

[4:29:54] comment on this item.

[4:29:57] All right.

[4:29:58] >> All right.

[4:29:58] Thank you, City clerk.

[4:30:02] I again want to thank my senior

[4:30:03] policy adviser Abby Roger for

[4:30:06] all the work on this clerk

[4:30:07] Quintus and her team Tyler

[4:30:08] Birch and his team that

[4:30:12] supports this committee and

[4:30:12] the city attorney's office for

[4:30:16] your collaboration in

[4:30:16] responding to the state law

[4:30:17] changes.

[4:30:21] Before I go on with the rest of

[4:30:22] my comments, I want to respond

[4:30:22] to several things that were

[4:30:26] heard.

[4:30:26] One the rules of counsel are

[4:30:30] only changing what we need to

[4:30:31] change to respond.

[4:30:31] Sb 707 actually had many more

[4:30:35] changes that were already

[4:30:35] embedded in our rules of

[4:30:36] counsel so we didn't even touch

[4:30:40] that And the allowance for

[4:30:41] remote participation was

[4:30:46] already embedded in our rules

[4:30:46] of counsel.

[4:30:47] Not every agency up and down

[4:30:50] the state of California allowed

[4:30:50] remote and they're now required

[4:30:55] to add remote.

[4:30:56] The I got a little bit of a

[4:30:57] kick out of the comment about

[4:30:59] disruption.

[4:31:00] The disruption is not about

[4:31:01] what we do about someone

[4:31:01] disrupting a meeting.

[4:31:04] It is when we lose contact with

[4:31:09] either Zoom or City tv and

[4:31:10] people that want to participate

[4:31:13] just watch or even participate

[4:31:14] remotely can't.

[4:31:15] And so there's very specific

[4:31:15] language You just can't blow it

[4:31:19] off and say hey, we got a

[4:31:19] quorum.

[4:31:20] We're just going to keep on

[4:31:20] with our meeting.

[4:31:23] Strong language itself.

[4:31:24] This is what you have to do If

[4:31:25] there is a disruption for those

[4:31:28] participating remotely it has

[4:31:29] nothing to do with behavior in

[4:31:33] the public meeting.

[4:31:38] To MR. Your comment I can never

[4:31:38] remember your day.

[4:31:39] >> I'm not going to say it

[4:31:42] wrong out loud.

[4:31:43] The splitting is something that

[4:31:44] we're continuing to entertain.

[4:31:47] I don't know if folks

[4:31:48] appreciate actually how big of

[4:31:49] a lift this is for our city

[4:31:52] clerk and for our committee

[4:31:53] consultants to make this

[4:31:53] fundamental change in due

[4:31:56] seating of time remotely.

[4:31:57] So this is the first big step

[4:31:57] in that process.

[4:32:01] We'll continue to monitor it to

[4:32:02] see if technology makes it

[4:32:06] easier to monitor.

[4:32:07] But we wanted to give the city

[4:32:08] clerk something solid.

[4:32:11] They know they could deliver on

[4:32:11] by JULY 1st.

[4:32:12] But we're also continuing to

[4:32:15] entertain that for for

[4:32:16] the reasons that you said.

[4:32:20] So we do recognize though I

[4:32:21] always I think I said this at

[4:32:25] Rules Committee but for

[4:32:26] the colleagues that weren't

[4:32:27] there, there was nothing more

[4:32:27] effective than throwing back at

[4:32:30] a council member things they

[4:32:31] said in the past.

[4:32:31] So kudos to you for doing that

[4:32:32] again.

[4:32:34] 2013 was a much different time.

[4:32:39] It is prior to the current

[4:32:43] iteration of 624 which

[4:32:44] fundamentally changed

[4:32:44] the city's relationship with

[4:32:48] our community planning groups

[4:32:48] going forward.

[4:32:49] And I also want to clarify

[4:32:53] accessible dialog is on

[4:32:54] the table right now.

[4:32:55] If some council member wants to

[4:32:58] ask a question from anybody in

[4:32:59] the public you can say MR.

[4:33:00] Moti, come up here and talk to

[4:33:03] me about utility boxes as we

[4:33:03] did at our working group.

[4:33:07] So there's nothing to stop that

[4:33:07] from happening.

[4:33:12] So that's allowable today.

[4:33:12] And you brought back a memory

[4:33:16] from what staff said at

[4:33:17] the Planning Commission my very

[4:33:21] first cpc meeting where I

[4:33:22] really didn't know what I was

[4:33:22] doing.

[4:33:23] Staff was bringing forth

[4:33:26] the idea of dumping planning

[4:33:27] groups as the primary vehicle

[4:33:28] for a community plan update and

[4:33:31] institute a committee to do

[4:33:36] the community plan update.

[4:33:37] i'm not going to talk about mid

[4:33:37] city.

[4:33:38] I'll let my colleague deal with

[4:33:41] that.

[4:33:42] But I immediately knew that was

[4:33:46] wrong and I spoke up and people

[4:33:47] even know who the John Carver

[4:33:48] was back then but trying to

[4:33:51] defend planning groups back

[4:33:51] then.

[4:33:52] So I think I covered most of

[4:33:56] the issues that I wanted to but

[4:33:56] I appreciate everybody who's a

[4:34:00] lot of you participated from

[4:34:01] the very first Rules Committee.

[4:34:01] As I said, the city of San

[4:34:05] Diego was a leader in many

[4:34:06] aspects of 7 or 7 other

[4:34:06] jurisdictions are now having to

[4:34:09] catch up.

[4:34:10] While I know some people will

[4:34:11] complain, I think we do have a

[4:34:15] robust system for public

[4:34:15] participation.

[4:34:16] It does require a little more

[4:34:19] work.

[4:34:20] I can tell you how many times I

[4:34:21] came down here all by myself

[4:34:24] and maybe I got a minute or

[4:34:24] maybe I got three minutes to

[4:34:28] represent my planning group

[4:34:29] going forward.

[4:34:30] And again, as you heard, these

[4:34:34] changes will not take effect on

[4:34:34] JULY 1st.

[4:34:35] What skills our city clerk and

[4:34:38] our committee consultants time

[4:34:38] to monitor the feedback and

[4:34:39] technological progress to

[4:34:43] identify opportunities for

[4:34:44] continued further improvement.

[4:34:47] So I'm going to leave it there

[4:34:48] and see what my colleagues say

[4:34:49] but I will move the staff

[4:34:52] recommendation and we'll go

[4:34:53] next to council member Eli

[4:34:53] Rivera.

[4:34:54] >> Thank you.

[4:34:57] Council PRESIDENT.

[4:34:58] Appreciate your work on this

[4:34:59] Abby Thank you for all the work

[4:35:02] you did.

[4:35:03] Council PRESIDENT I know you

[4:35:03] worked closely with the clerk

[4:35:07] to to bring this forward so

[4:35:07] thank you for all the effort.

[4:35:11] As I said before, it rules

[4:35:12] Committee my entire time

[4:35:16] knowing you, you've cared about

[4:35:16] public participation,

[4:35:17] the ability for the community

[4:35:21] to show up and meaningfully

[4:35:26] weigh in, not just weigh in how

[4:35:27] we got to know each other.

[4:35:31] You were just a guy who

[4:35:31] continuously showed up to

[4:35:36] support community efforts.

[4:35:36] And so I know that this was

[4:35:37] done with the intent of

[4:35:41] obviously abiding by state law

[4:35:42] but also doing so in a way that

[4:35:42] ensures that meaningful public

[4:35:46] engagement is maintained.

[4:35:47] So thank you for that.

[4:35:49] With that I'm happy to provide

[4:35:50] a second.

[4:35:50] All right.

[4:35:51] Thank you, sir.

[4:35:52] We'll go next to council member

[4:35:56] So we have motion by myself on

[4:35:56] the second by council member

[4:35:57] Eli Rivera.

[4:35:57] We'll go next to council member

[4:35:59] Von Wilbert.

[4:36:00] Thank you and thank you for

[4:36:00] the work to implement the state

[4:36:01] required changes.

[4:36:04] I know it's easy when the state

[4:36:04] passes a law and then we have

[4:36:05] to scramble to implement it.

[4:36:08] So I appreciate you very much

[4:36:09] for doing that And also to our

[4:36:13] city clerk and all the deputy

[4:36:14] and assistant clerks it is very

[4:36:14] hard to maintain meeting

[4:36:15] management with both the online

[4:36:18] platform in here and your job

[4:36:19] is about to be much more

[4:36:19] challenging.

[4:36:20] So I just want to appreciate

[4:36:22] the fact that you are so kind

[4:36:23] and open and invite people in

[4:36:27] no matter how hard that's going

[4:36:27] to be.

[4:36:28] So thank you for your work on

[4:36:32] that as well And thank you also

[4:36:33] to it Victoria LaRusso and all

[4:36:36] the community planning groups

[4:36:37] for coming down here and not

[4:36:37] only dedicating your time but

[4:36:41] also you know, paying for

[4:36:42] parking.

[4:36:42] You know it is something that

[4:36:46] we should think about here now

[4:36:47] that the city doesn't have any

[4:36:48] budget deficits But it is noted

[4:36:51] in in terms of the further

[4:36:52] actions I know it would not

[4:36:53] before us today whether or not

[4:36:56] to include a 30% specified slot

[4:36:57] for community planning groups

[4:37:02] But I definitely am open to

[4:37:03] that discussion and I would

[4:37:03] love to hear I know the council

[4:37:06] PRESIDENT You've done so much

[4:37:07] work on the council

[4:37:07] relationship with the planning

[4:37:11] group so I think the point is

[4:37:16] made and I would be open to

[4:37:16] hearing any ideas for

[4:37:17] the future about how this could

[4:37:17] be implemented.

[4:37:21] At the same time yes, as long

[4:37:22] as people are here anyone on

[4:37:22] this dias can ask anyone in

[4:37:23] the audience a question.

[4:37:25] You know as well So it doesn't

[4:37:26] need to be seated at these

[4:37:26] tables.

[4:37:30] If anybody is here we can ask

[4:37:31] our community member to come up

[4:37:31] and respond.

[4:37:32] I don't think we've made that

[4:37:34] very clear but that is that is

[4:37:35] our current protocol.

[4:37:36] So but for today I know we're

[4:37:38] only talking about these very

[4:37:39] specific changes to comply with

[4:37:44] 7o7 but I would be more than an

[4:37:44] open to hearing more for future

[4:37:45] ideas to implement some of

[4:37:45] these goals.

[4:37:49] So thank you.

[4:37:49] All right.

[4:37:50] Thank you.

[4:37:51] Council Member one Well we'll

[4:37:53] go next to Council member Campo

[4:37:53] Thank you.

[4:37:54] Council PRESIDENT Similar to

[4:37:55] that Rules Committee I'll be in

[4:37:58] support today though I will

[4:37:58] I'll reiterate my support for

[4:38:03] the suggestion from the CPGs to

[4:38:03] have that equal rung in

[4:38:08] the ladder of communication.

[4:38:08] I do appreciate that we're

[4:38:09] working with the city clerk's

[4:38:13] office to get the virtual

[4:38:14] in-person and virtual mics done

[4:38:18] correctly which which will

[4:38:19] alleviate a lot of cost and

[4:38:19] effort to magnify the voices

[4:38:26] and I think that I just need to

[4:38:27] reiterate to my five planning

[4:38:30] groups in District seven that

[4:38:31] you know, we have a close

[4:38:31] relationship.

[4:38:32] We have people from my staff at

[4:38:34] every single meeting and and

[4:38:35] beyond in other meetings as

[4:38:35] well.

[4:38:40] I think that as soon as we are

[4:38:44] able to get that hybrid and

[4:38:45] in-person mix we will be able

[4:38:49] to functionally get very close

[4:38:50] to that equal seat in

[4:38:50] the table.

[4:38:54] But as my constituents know I'm

[4:38:55] more than happy to ask any

[4:38:59] questions they give me to put

[4:39:00] in front of me of any applicant

[4:39:01] or city staff at any time And I

[4:39:04] appreciate them for their great

[4:39:04] efforts.

[4:39:05] Thank you Council PRESIDENT For

[4:39:06] the good work and thank you

[4:39:06] MS..

[4:39:07] Rider for your good work on

[4:39:07] this as well.

[4:39:09] I'll vote in support.

[4:39:09] All right.

[4:39:10] Thank you Council member I

[4:39:10] we'll go next to Council

[4:39:14] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Thank you

[4:39:15] Council PRESIDENT And thank you

[4:39:15] and your team the city clerk's

[4:39:18] team for their work on this

[4:39:19] It's we were just commenting up

[4:39:20] here about how we get these

[4:39:21] state bills that get passed

[4:39:23] with changes which is wonderful

[4:39:27] And from an equity standpoint I

[4:39:28] think is is actually a

[4:39:29] significant advancement in

[4:39:32] trying to offer folks equal

[4:39:33] time and access.

[4:39:33] So that should not be

[4:39:37] understated but also recognize

[4:39:38] that we were we were uniquely

[4:39:38] equipped as a city to be able

[4:39:41] to respond to this to adjust

[4:39:42] without making significant

[4:39:42] changes.

[4:39:43] I think of how most of

[4:39:46] the jurisdictions within this

[4:39:47] county had already eliminated

[4:39:48] virtual comment post pandemic

[4:39:52] and and to try to re-implement

[4:39:53] a new system must be extremely

[4:39:54] challenging for many of them.

[4:39:56] So thank you city Clerk for

[4:39:57] continue to address these

[4:39:57] challenges And I think to that

[4:40:01] point I don't think we should

[4:40:01] under estimate how challenging

[4:40:02] it is on the city clerk's and

[4:40:05] to try to manage both in-person

[4:40:06] public speakers as well as

[4:40:10] virtually online and to add

[4:40:11] this additional component for

[4:40:11] presentations.

[4:40:15] So what I do appreciate with

[4:40:15] this update is that we've

[4:40:16] sought to really strike a

[4:40:20] balance in how we can allow

[4:40:20] the public as much time as

[4:40:21] possible to prepare to gather

[4:40:25] the individuals they need to

[4:40:25] have a presentation ready and

[4:40:26] two hours is not a lot of time

[4:40:30] for you to receive some of this

[4:40:30] and piece all of it together.

[4:40:34] And so that's just something

[4:40:35] that I think we all need to

[4:40:36] acknowledge and that I imagine

[4:40:36] for the city clerk as we

[4:40:40] advance in making this even

[4:40:40] more accessible that it takes

[4:40:44] staffing and time to dedicate

[4:40:45] to make sure it's done in a

[4:40:46] meaningful way.

[4:40:49] I think to that to the point of

[4:40:50] our community planning groups

[4:40:53] and cbc about having a seat at

[4:40:54] the table that's similar to

[4:40:55] some of my colleagues that have

[4:40:55] mentioned here.

[4:40:58] I think what we're going to see

[4:40:59] at least in this round of

[4:41:00] changes is some better

[4:41:04] structure to how presentations

[4:41:04] are offered.

[4:41:05] It certainly doesn't answer

[4:41:09] the whole question that has

[4:41:10] been proposed and I think that

[4:41:10] is one that's still challenging

[4:41:13] logistically to figure out all

[4:41:14] nuances of But I appreciate

[4:41:15] that that's a conversation

[4:41:18] that's continuing in some way

[4:41:19] or another because I do think

[4:41:23] we recognize that the speeches

[4:41:24] do come oftentimes with

[4:41:29] feedback on items how they get

[4:41:29] their time, how that gets

[4:41:30] allotted Again, I think once we

[4:41:33] have a blend of virtual and in

[4:41:34] person that might help to solve

[4:41:34] some of that because it will

[4:41:35] remove one of the most

[4:41:38] immediate barriers to someone

[4:41:38] speaking But having the group

[4:41:39] presentations upfront and even

[4:41:43] just acknowledging that one of

[4:41:43] them is going to be

[4:41:44] the committee plan groups or

[4:41:45] the cbc I think goes a long

[4:41:48] ways in helping to recognize

[4:41:49] where in sort of in the order

[4:41:51] with the public

[4:41:52] the presentations come from.

[4:41:53] So so I appreciate the work

[4:41:53] that's been done on the item

[4:41:57] today, happy to support it,

[4:41:58] look forward to future

[4:41:58] discussions to see how we can

[4:41:59] continue to improve upon

[4:42:01] the process that we have.

[4:42:02] >> Thank you.

[4:42:02] All right.

[4:42:03] Thank you.

[4:42:03] Council PRESIDENT Pro tem Not

[4:42:06] anybody else in the lights

[4:42:07] We're having a motion to move

[4:42:08] the staff recommendation motion

[4:42:12] by myself and the second by

[4:42:13] council member Eli Rivera.

[4:42:21] >> Clerk Please call the roll

[4:42:22] Just when you guys are saying

[4:42:22] nice things about me I'll have

[4:42:24] to redo the vote.

[4:42:29] >> My apologies.

[4:42:33] I'm sorry The vote Please cast

[4:42:34] your vote And that does pass

[4:42:39] unanimously 8 to 0 with Council

[4:42:39] member Marino voting no and

[4:42:40] COUNCILMAN Moreno voting

[4:42:40] absent.

[4:42:45] I really wanted to humble

[4:42:45] myself.

[4:42:46] >> Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[4:42:46] All right.

[4:42:50] Thank you And again thank you

[4:42:51] everybody that showed up and

[4:42:55] stuck through a long afternoon

[4:42:55] .

[4:42:56] >> clerk Please introduce item

[4:42:59] f507 items 5 or 7 is the Clean

[4:43:00] Water srf loan to the storm

[4:43:00] water system for the Troy is

[4:43:03] green infrastructure and storm

[4:43:04] drain improvements projects

[4:43:08] This requires six votes

[4:43:09] pursuant to Charter Section 99

[4:43:10] If you are here and like to

[4:43:14] speak on this item please be

[4:43:14] sure to submit your speaker

[4:43:15] slip to the front of the room

[4:43:18] in the clear bin and if you are

[4:43:18] online now's the time to raise

[4:43:19] your hand by pressing Star nine

[4:43:20] or the raise your hand icon.

[4:43:22] Thank you.

[4:43:23] >> All right with that I see

[4:43:24] staff has seated themselves.

[4:43:25] Please introduce yourself for

[4:43:27] the record and let us know how

[4:43:28] much time you need.

[4:43:28] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

[4:43:29] And thank you Council member.

[4:43:31] My name is Kevin Warner.

[4:43:32] I am the financing coordinator

[4:43:33] with Department of Finance.

[4:43:33] Will need five minutes.

[4:43:36] All right, when you're ready I

[4:43:37] appreciate it.

[4:43:37] The item seeks council approval

[4:43:38] to enter into a clean water

[4:43:41] state revolving fund financing

[4:43:42] for the choice green

[4:43:42] infrastructure and storm drain

[4:43:46] improvements projects for

[4:43:46] background the Clean Water

[4:43:50] State Revolving Fund or srf as

[4:43:51] it's commonly known offers low

[4:43:52] cost loans to help local

[4:43:52] agencies construct water

[4:43:56] projects affordably throughout

[4:43:56] the state.

[4:43:57] The program is administered by

[4:43:58] the State Water Resources

[4:44:00] Control Board.

[4:44:01] The program offers low interest

[4:44:02] rate loans and favorable

[4:44:02] repayment terms.

[4:44:05] The city regularly submits

[4:44:05] applications for standalone

[4:44:06] projects that meet those

[4:44:10] requirements and the state has

[4:44:13] started capping loans at $50

[4:44:14] million per project.

[4:44:14] The Choice Green Infrastructure

[4:44:15] and Storm Drain Improvement

[4:44:19] Project consist of Alfredo and

[4:44:20] Rolando Park Storm Drain and

[4:44:23] Green Infrastructure and Green

[4:44:24] Infrastructure Group 1012 all

[4:44:28] in the choice watershed.

[4:44:29] This project improves water

[4:44:33] quality and flood resistance in

[4:44:33] the choice watershed with six

[4:44:37] new modular wetland systems and

[4:44:38] replaces aging storm drain

[4:44:40] pipes and installs 3500 new

[4:44:41] feet of new reinforced concrete

[4:44:42] drains.

[4:44:46] This project is 100% design

[4:44:47] complete and is being finalized

[4:44:51] for construction and

[4:44:51] the estimated cost for this

[4:44:55] project is $23.8 million and

[4:44:56] it's due to be bid at the end

[4:45:00] of of calendar year 2026 with

[4:45:03] start of construction in 2027

[4:45:04] and finish in calendar year

[4:45:08] 2029.

[4:45:09] >> The Storm Drain revenue Fund

[4:45:11] collects approximately $5.7

[4:45:12] million annually from the storm

[4:45:13] drain fees and the storm drain

[4:45:17] revenue fund will be pledged

[4:45:17] for the choice projects.

[4:45:21] The revenue fund is also

[4:45:22] pledged to repay the South

[4:45:23] Michigan Beach Clean Water srf

[4:45:27] Loan that the city did and

[4:45:30] completed in fall of 2024.

[4:45:34] The state has offered a $22

[4:45:35] million loan plus a potential

[4:45:36] $5 million in principal

[4:45:39] forgiveness principal

[4:45:40] forgiveness meaning more like a

[4:45:41] kind of like a grant and could

[4:45:44] bring the total of financing to

[4:45:45] $27 million The $5 million in

[4:45:49] forgiveness decision is

[4:45:49] expected in late fiscal year

[4:45:53] 2026 or early 2027 from

[4:45:54] the State Water Resources

[4:45:58] Control Board with the current

[4:45:58] storm drain revenue fund

[4:45:59] capacity this would be the last

[4:46:03] clean water srf loan for storm

[4:46:04] water coming forward unless

[4:46:04] there was a vote of the people

[4:46:08] to increase the storm drain

[4:46:09] revenue fund The again

[4:46:12] the estimated cost is $23.8

[4:46:12] million and the loan cap

[4:46:13] provides room for future cost

[4:46:16] increases if forgiveness of

[4:46:17] the principal forgiveness does

[4:46:18] not materialize or bids exceed

[4:46:21] estimates.

[4:46:22] Alternative financing through

[4:46:22] wifi or general fact general

[4:46:24] fund backed loans would cover

[4:46:29] the remainder So there's $27

[4:46:33] million in proceeds available

[4:46:34] at 2% interest for the $22

[4:46:37] million in loans.

[4:46:38] The 30 year term that goes from

[4:46:39] fiscal year 2030 to 2059

[4:46:42] the current estimated debt

[4:46:46] service is $975,000 annually on

[4:46:47] the $22 million loan.

[4:46:48] Again, this is current It could

[4:46:51] change in the future.

[4:46:52] The first payment would be in

[4:46:52] fiscal year 2030.

[4:46:56] Repayment only applies to

[4:46:56] actual draws.

[4:46:57] There is a debt service

[4:47:01] coverage component as well and

[4:47:02] reserves are required on this

[4:47:06] loan And then the storm drain

[4:47:07] revenue fund actually also pays

[4:47:07] for the operation and

[4:47:08] maintenance of these choice

[4:47:11] projects And with that we have

[4:47:11] the proposed actions on

[4:47:15] the screen and I leave it up

[4:47:15] for any questions.

[4:47:16] >> All right.

[4:47:16] Thank you very much for

[4:47:17] the presentation.

[4:47:20] Clerk Please proceed with

[4:47:21] public testimony on f507 Thank

[4:47:21] you.

[4:47:25] Council PRESIDENT And our

[4:47:26] master Elder Master are you

[4:47:26] here?

[4:47:29] I think he has left.

[4:47:30] We're starting the five minute

[4:47:31] timer and going to those

[4:47:34] participating remotely starting

[4:47:35] with the original.

[4:47:35] You'll have two minutes.

[4:47:39] Yeah it's crazy.

[4:47:40] There's a 150 year old problem

[4:47:40] in the city according to

[4:47:43] Jennifer Campbell And you guys

[4:47:43] have a $5 billion storm

[4:47:44] infrastructure gap And of

[4:47:48] course we want to be spending

[4:47:49] money on that.

[4:47:49] But it's scary to think about

[4:47:50] if you guys are actually going

[4:47:53] to complete that because money

[4:47:54] has always been reallocated or

[4:47:55] diverted somewhere else leading

[4:47:58] to the problems that have taken

[4:47:59] place.

[4:48:00] And you know like with you guys

[4:48:03] getting into all these loans,

[4:48:04] obviously you're not going to

[4:48:04] be able to find that money

[4:48:05] under a rock But it's like how

[4:48:08] long is the city and the people

[4:48:09] going to be in debt due to

[4:48:12] the negligence of the city not

[4:48:13] keeping up with this

[4:48:13] infrastructure?

[4:48:17] I mean it's like it's $5

[4:48:17] billion Is the gap like how

[4:48:18] much more is that going to cost

[4:48:21] when you guys are getting into

[4:48:22] these loans and how many years

[4:48:23] is that going to be?

[4:48:25] You know, it's going to be

[4:48:26] another 150 years before

[4:48:26] the people even see the other

[4:48:30] side of this.

[4:48:31] It's just really sad because so

[4:48:31] many places have been neglected

[4:48:35] and so many people have lost,

[4:48:39] you know, just their their

[4:48:39] livelihoods because of

[4:48:40] the negligence and because of,

[4:48:41] you know, storming happening

[4:48:44] and if they're going to

[4:48:44] continue to do this

[4:48:45] geoengineering which they will

[4:48:49] because it fits perfectly into

[4:48:49] your guys's climate change

[4:48:50] agenda, then there's going to

[4:48:54] be absolute Lee more and more

[4:48:55] storms and we're I don't even

[4:48:56] know how we're even going to be

[4:48:59] able to keep up with what's

[4:49:00] coming down the pike And you

[4:49:04] know, just I don't know It's

[4:49:04] just really sad because there's

[4:49:05] so much malfeasance and

[4:49:08] mismanagement that goes on that

[4:49:09] it's really hard to trust that

[4:49:14] you guys are going to really

[4:49:14] utilize this and make sure that

[4:49:15] because Troy's Creek I mean

[4:49:16] it's like that's awesome in

[4:49:18] that part of the Promise Zone

[4:49:19] and all these promise zones

[4:49:19] have actually been left behind

[4:49:22] So hopefully you're actually

[4:49:23] going to be doing what needs to

[4:49:24] be done here in this money's

[4:49:27] going to be spent where it is

[4:49:27] being allocated to.

[4:49:32] But again it's big fear of

[4:49:33] thinking about, you know, what

[4:49:33] kind of money this is going to

[4:49:37] cost the people because of, you

[4:49:37] know, mismanagement that's

[4:49:38] already taken place.

[4:49:40] It's it's a little bit urging

[4:49:45] them has concluded bait if you

[4:49:50] can please unmute made a cameo

[4:49:55] for you and pop up should have

[4:49:56] come up There you go I should

[4:49:59] have said John pretty sorry

[4:50:00] about that.

[4:50:04] I am trying to reach you to

[4:50:05] talk about stormwater drainage

[4:50:09] and basically I wanted to say

[4:50:10] we're looking at stormwater as

[4:50:11] a problem as opposed to an

[4:50:14] opportunity And for example I

[4:50:15] used to live on an on Rose

[4:50:19] Canyon and we would that if we

[4:50:20] were able to block off that

[4:50:24] canyon itself we could flood it

[4:50:25] during high periods of rain or

[4:50:25] whenever there's an intense

[4:50:29] storm and then allow that water

[4:50:30] to seep into our watershed.

[4:50:33] And I suspect that by looking

[4:50:34] at canyons that way throughout

[4:50:34] the region we probably could

[4:50:38] slow down water substantially

[4:50:39] as opposed to focusing on

[4:50:39] having a rush out to the sea so

[4:50:43] that we can evaporate it into

[4:50:44] drinkable water through pure

[4:50:44] water.

[4:50:48] >> Thank you.

[4:50:52] 8700 If you can please unmute

[4:50:53] It is 100.

[4:50:58] Thank you.

[4:50:59] Thank you City clerk for John

[4:51:02] Brady Thank you.

[4:51:06] That was a wonderful example of

[4:51:07] seizing the opportunity if it's

[4:51:11] possible.

[4:51:12] I really appreciated that it

[4:51:13] was good for our city.

[4:51:17] Okay so I love the words clean

[4:51:22] water and it's a joyous creek.

[4:51:23] I don't even know where

[4:51:25] actually is creek but yet I

[4:51:26] love Choice Creek because I

[4:51:30] have listened for so many it

[4:51:30] seems like years having people

[4:51:35] speak up to protect and and

[4:51:35] enjoy a choice creek the nature

[4:51:39] of it and everything.

[4:51:40] So I was really happy to see

[4:51:41] those words Choice Creek

[4:51:45] included.

[4:51:46] I know it is broader than that

[4:51:47] but it was great to see that So

[4:51:49] thank you Public for fighting

[4:51:50] for and protecting Choice Creek

[4:51:54] So I love the principle of

[4:51:55] forgiveness of 5 million from

[4:51:59] the state and we'll keep our

[4:52:00] fingers crossed so that you

[4:52:04] know like a grant okay won't be

[4:52:05] required matching funds?

[4:52:05] I don't think so.

[4:52:09] So not with forgiveness.

[4:52:10] So that's good news And I

[4:52:10] really like the fact that it

[4:52:15] sounds like you have a plan for

[4:52:18] all results as to what happens

[4:52:19] with the resources of funding

[4:52:20] And you know what?

[4:52:24] Well you'll have to take what

[4:52:24] the opportunities are in case

[4:52:28] the grant the forgiveness loan

[4:52:29] is not coming forward.

[4:52:34] So this is a great item to end

[4:52:34] the day with And it was I think

[4:52:38] that was the last item.

[4:52:42] But thank you everybody.

[4:52:43] Hey, we're in this together,

[4:52:43] aren't we?

[4:52:47] And you know everything is just

[4:52:48] supposed to be there and it's

[4:52:52] unfolding and we're meeting it

[4:52:53] and we're doing our best and

[4:52:53] we're doing better.

[4:52:54] So thank you everybody and love

[4:52:57] to all Thank you.

[4:53:00] >> The five minute timer did

[4:53:01] conclude we have two speakers

[4:53:02] in the queue.

[4:53:02] No additional speakers will be

[4:53:03] taken Tony if you can proceed

[4:53:06] with your comments I think you

[4:53:06] City council I just wanted to

[4:53:10] thank Bates who spoke earlier.

[4:53:10] What he said was really

[4:53:14] brilliant about kind of viewing

[4:53:15] stormwater instead of doing

[4:53:19] stormwater as problematic

[4:53:20] viewing it from the perspective

[4:53:21] that it's something beneficial

[4:53:24] that can help with landscaping

[4:53:25] ,that can help replenish our

[4:53:25] aquifers, it can help replenish

[4:53:29] our water table.

[4:53:30] I think that we have so much

[4:53:31] stormwater that becomes a

[4:53:31] problem because we don't have

[4:53:34] enough water collections

[4:53:35] throughout the city.

[4:53:35] I did hear about a program and

[4:53:36] met an individual that worked

[4:53:39] for a department.

[4:53:40] I forget which department it

[4:53:44] was that actually had grants

[4:53:45] for issuing some of these water

[4:53:48] collection tanks But I think

[4:53:49] having more of them throughout

[4:53:50] the city is would be really

[4:53:50] beneficial.

[4:53:53] I'm looking into like

[4:53:54] permaculture looking into who

[4:53:58] go culture mounds looking into

[4:53:59] different ways that we can

[4:54:03] absorb stormwater naturally And

[4:54:04] really what it comes down to is

[4:54:05] the fundamental understanding

[4:54:08] that we have to choose if we

[4:54:08] want to have a society that's

[4:54:12] powered I guess or essentially

[4:54:13] maneuvered with concrete you

[4:54:17] know concrete street tops,

[4:54:18] concrete parking lots or if we

[4:54:19] want to have a buy organic one

[4:54:22] where we can absorb some of

[4:54:23] that that stormwater with more

[4:54:27] plants and trees planted

[4:54:27] throughout the city.

[4:54:28] Now it's also a question of

[4:54:32] like management and trees and

[4:54:33] you know there's issues of like

[4:54:36] branches falling and lawsuits

[4:54:37] resulting from like tree

[4:54:37] branches falling and hitting

[4:54:42] people And I know that that's

[4:54:42] often cited as an excuse to not

[4:54:46] have more trees or to cut down

[4:54:46] the few trees that we have.

[4:54:47] But as the planet's getting

[4:54:51] hotter and we've just had like

[4:54:51] the hottest MARCH on record in

[4:54:55] like 120 years it's becoming

[4:54:56] apparent that we need more

[4:54:56] trees.

[4:54:57] We need to make a precious

[4:55:00] valuable use of our stormwater

[4:55:01] and treat it as such and not be

[4:55:05] discarding it.

[4:55:06] So I appreciate that comment

[4:55:06] earlier and I implore all of

[4:55:11] you to look into this further.

[4:55:11] >> Thank.

[4:55:12] And our final speaker is 8813

[4:55:22] If you can please unmute your

[4:55:26] okay controller here and yes

[4:55:27] yep control here and I love

[4:55:28] the enthusiasm of that previous

[4:55:32] caller And you know what?

[4:55:33] It's unfortunate that people

[4:55:36] don't realize what is happening

[4:55:41] within for example having

[4:55:41] the warmest MARCH ever.

[4:55:46] It's you know that's all by

[4:55:46] design that's all being

[4:55:47] controlled whether people want

[4:55:51] to acknowledge it or not it

[4:55:51] truly is Look into that.

[4:55:55] It's called geo engineering.

[4:55:56] Tune in to your carb meetings

[4:56:00] especially if you're really

[4:56:00] interested.

[4:56:05] So the previous caller uh what

[4:56:05] did I want to say?

[4:56:06] Oh um yeah.

[4:56:09] And as far as like the whole

[4:56:10] planting the trees and having

[4:56:14] more trees and cooling down

[4:56:14] the planet again.

[4:56:15] Yeah that's great.

[4:56:19] But the goal is to eliminate

[4:56:19] the carbon, right?

[4:56:24] So that contributes to it.

[4:56:29] So yeah, everything is

[4:56:30] backwards as Audra mentions.

[4:56:33] So inverted and there really is

[4:56:38] an agenda at hand and our

[4:56:39] contribution the things that we

[4:56:43] have to say, the great ideas

[4:56:44] that people have just go down

[4:56:48] the toilet because essentially

[4:56:49] in the end they do not work for

[4:56:50] us.

[4:56:50] Reminder they work for

[4:56:54] the globalists.

[4:56:55] So a happy awakening to Oh I

[4:56:58] love you San Diego.

[4:56:59] I'm done.

[4:56:59] Thank you.

[4:57:00] That concludes with a comment

[4:57:00] on this item.

[4:57:04] All right.

[4:57:04] Thank you, City Clerk And with

[4:57:05] that we'll turn over to

[4:57:05] the council for questions.

[4:57:07] Comments Entertain a motion.

[4:57:08] We'll start with council member

[4:57:12] Isla Rivera.

[4:57:15] Oh, how are you doing?

[4:57:21] Um, this is a good thing.

[4:57:21] This is a good thing.

[4:57:25] Um, a community that should

[4:57:26] have more investment and its

[4:57:30] infrastructure is getting more

[4:57:31] investment in its

[4:57:31] infrastructure.

[4:57:32] We're moving from gray boring,

[4:57:36] depressing old outdated to

[4:57:41] green vibrant, healthy.

[4:57:41] This is good.

[4:57:46] We should say so I am glad that

[4:57:47] this is happening.

[4:57:47] A motion to approve staff

[4:57:52] recommendation.

[4:57:52] All right.

[4:57:53] Thank you.

[4:57:53] Councilmember Yellow We have a

[4:57:54] motion to move the staff

[4:57:57] recommendation.

[4:57:58] We'll go next to council member

[4:57:58] Bond.

[4:57:59] Wilbert thank you very much And

[4:58:01] I'm happy to second the Motion

[4:58:02] and Echo Council.

[4:58:02] You are very kind and this is

[4:58:07] very good In fact to the risk

[4:58:07] of telling everyone what nerds

[4:58:08] we are.

[4:58:10] COUNCILMAN Rivera and I often

[4:58:11] text each other pictures of

[4:58:11] green infrastructure when we

[4:58:15] see them in other cities which

[4:58:15] is what makes me ask

[4:58:16] the question could we have put

[4:58:20] more pictures in this

[4:58:21] presentation for the public

[4:58:21] especially if it is 100% design

[4:58:25] phase completed?

[4:58:26] You know, explaining to folks

[4:58:27] like me about what a modular

[4:58:31] wetland stormwater system is,

[4:58:31] it would be very helpful to

[4:58:32] have more photos for everybody

[4:58:35] because it is a success story.

[4:58:36] You know if we're getting money

[4:58:36] to do an important job for

[4:58:37] the environment.

[4:58:40] So that would be my request for

[4:58:40] the future.

[4:58:41] And can you tell me more about

[4:58:45] the modular wetlands?

[4:58:46] I we have some colleagues from

[4:58:46] stormwater that are on online

[4:58:47] right now.

[4:58:49] They can come and tell you what

[4:58:55] the what the wetlands are.

[4:58:56] I counted in the third This is

[4:59:00] Sara from City of San Diego

[4:59:01] Stormwater Department So

[4:59:04] the model with an is a type of

[4:59:05] the water quality component

[4:59:09] that allows runoff and rainfall

[4:59:09] to infiltrate within

[4:59:14] the engineered water quality

[4:59:14] system to filter out

[4:59:19] the pollutant from the rainfall

[4:59:19] before discharging to our water

[4:59:23] body And it's kind of like it

[4:59:24] well it's fill up with

[4:59:25] different types of the material

[4:59:29] combination of the sand and

[4:59:30] mulch and different type of

[4:59:34] the medial layer and it's

[4:59:35] planted on the top so it's

[4:59:35] underground and then on

[4:59:40] the surface you will see

[4:59:41] the plastic and thinking of

[4:59:45] runoff we can definitely just

[4:59:46] sense a schematic of the module

[4:59:51] wetland to you just for to

[4:59:51] better understand.

[4:59:52] >> Yeah I'd be happy to.

[4:59:53] I just we're missing an

[4:59:55] opportunity for the public to

[4:59:55] also get excited about modular

[5:00:00] wetland systems and so I just

[5:00:00] thank you This is a great work.

[5:00:01] I just in the future I'd love

[5:00:05] to have people more engaged in

[5:00:06] this because we have seen

[5:00:07] catastrophic flooding in San

[5:00:10] Diego and we're going to get

[5:00:11] our climate action goals.

[5:00:11] This is all going to also going

[5:00:12] to help reduce untreated

[5:00:15] wastewater into our ocean that

[5:00:16] this is such a good news item

[5:00:17] and I just feel we could

[5:00:18] celebrate it even more So thank

[5:00:20] you for the good work I'm

[5:00:21] taking the motion and glad to

[5:00:22] see this is getting off

[5:00:22] the ground.

[5:00:22] >> All right.

[5:00:26] Thank you so we have a motion

[5:00:27] by council member Julio Rivera

[5:00:27] and the second by council

[5:00:30] member Von Wolpert Clerk Please

[5:00:31] call the roll I start of

[5:00:31] the voting system Please cast

[5:00:35] your vote That passes

[5:00:36] unanimously 8 to 0 with council

[5:00:41] member Moreno absent.

[5:00:42] >> Thank you.

[5:00:42] All right.

[5:00:43] Thank you And thank you for

[5:00:43] the good work and bringing that

[5:00:46] out before All right today we

[5:00:47] have two adjournments in memory

[5:00:49] and we'll go to Council member

[5:00:50] Foster first, sir.

[5:00:50] >> Yes.

[5:00:55] Thank you Council PRESIDENT

[5:00:59] Give a quick moment for

[5:00:59] the slide presentation to be

[5:01:20] uploaded And there you go.

[5:01:20] Ready?

[5:01:20] All right.

[5:01:24] Thank you again.

[5:01:25] Thank you.

[5:01:26] Council PRESIDENT With great

[5:01:26] respect we adjourn today's

[5:01:30] meeting in memory of Alwyn Ben

[5:01:31] Holman, a Navy veteran

[5:01:35] trailblazer and leader whose

[5:01:36] life reflected service,

[5:01:40] perseverance and strength.

[5:01:41] MR. Holman passed away on APRIL

[5:01:42] 3rd, 2026.

[5:01:46] His life was celebrated to this

[5:01:47] past Saturday APRIL 11th

[5:01:48] surrounded by loved ones and

[5:01:52] those who carry forward his

[5:01:52] legacy.

[5:01:53] MR. Holman was born in Alton,

[5:01:56] Illinois on DECEMBER 26th,

[5:01:57] 1925.

[5:02:01] He came to San Diego while

[5:02:02] serving in the United States

[5:02:02] Navy during World War Two.

[5:02:06] The city became home a place

[5:02:07] where he would leave leave a

[5:02:07] lasting mark.

[5:02:12] After his military service he

[5:02:12] continued serving others as a

[5:02:13] mail carrier and later as a

[5:02:17] firefighter with the San Diego

[5:02:18] Fire Department.

[5:02:18] Any time when doors were closed

[5:02:22] to many MR. Holman stepped

[5:02:23] forward and helped open them.

[5:02:24] He became the first black

[5:02:27] firefighter in San Diego

[5:02:28] assigned outside of Station 19,

[5:02:33] breaking through a system that

[5:02:34] had long limited opportunity.

[5:02:34] That moment mattered not just

[5:02:38] for him but for every

[5:02:39] firefighter who came after him

[5:02:39] because of his courage.

[5:02:43] San Diego's fire department

[5:02:44] began to change because of his

[5:02:44] presence.

[5:02:45] Others were able to see what

[5:02:49] was possible and because of his

[5:02:50] leadership a stronger and more

[5:02:55] inclusive department took shape

[5:02:55] .

[5:02:56] He went on to serve with

[5:02:56] distinction for nearly three

[5:02:57] decades rising through

[5:03:00] the ranks to become the city's

[5:03:04] first black deputy fire chief,

[5:03:05] retiring in 1983, leaving

[5:03:05] behind a legacy of excellence

[5:03:09] and determined action.

[5:03:10] When we recognize MR. Holman

[5:03:14] right here in these chambers on

[5:03:14] his 100th birthday we

[5:03:15] celebrated a life that mirrored

[5:03:19] the progress of our city.

[5:03:19] A life defined not only by

[5:03:20] personal achievement but by

[5:03:24] the opportunities he helped

[5:03:24] create for others.

[5:03:25] And that impact did not stop

[5:03:26] within the fire service.

[5:03:29] It extended across industries,

[5:03:30] across generations and across

[5:03:31] this entire city.

[5:03:36] For black San Diego especially,

[5:03:36] his life stands as proof of

[5:03:41] what is possible and I can say

[5:03:41] personally as I sit in this

[5:03:42] city today that legacy is not

[5:03:46] that that legacy is not lost on

[5:03:46] me.

[5:03:47] Beyond his career, MR. Holman

[5:03:51] was devoted to his family.

[5:03:52] He shared 71 years of marriage

[5:03:53] with his wife Ruby.

[5:03:57] And leaves behind a family who

[5:03:58] cared for him, supported him

[5:03:58] and now carry his legacy

[5:03:58] forward.

[5:04:03] His life reminds us that real

[5:04:03] change is built over time

[5:04:04] through persistence, through

[5:04:08] service and through the courage

[5:04:09] to stand where others have not

[5:04:09] been given the chance.

[5:04:13] On behalf of the board Council

[5:04:14] district I extend my deepest

[5:04:15] condolences to the home and

[5:04:15] family.

[5:04:19] MAY we honor his legacy by

[5:04:19] continuing the work of opening

[5:04:20] doors and creating opportunity.

[5:04:25] Rest in power MR. Holman.

[5:04:25] And this includes my concludes

[5:04:26] my comments.

[5:04:26] Thank you.

[5:04:29] Thank you, Councilmember Foster

[5:04:30] And now council member Vaughn

[5:04:35] Walker.

[5:04:41] For we hard thank you Council

[5:04:42] PRESIDENT And thank you Henry

[5:04:43] for those beautiful words about

[5:04:46] home and it was wonderful to

[5:04:47] have him here in chambers

[5:04:47] recently.

[5:04:48] Today we are also adjourning

[5:04:52] our APRIL 14th, 2026 City

[5:04:53] Council meeting in memory of

[5:04:53] Alex Samantha Libby.

[5:05:14] We have a slideshow His I

[5:05:14] apologize got some ready to go

[5:05:15] up for a second and then it

[5:05:21] seemed to glitch very go.

[5:05:22] Thank you.

[5:05:31] On DECEMBER 26th, 1991

[5:05:32] the world was introduced to

[5:05:32] Alex Smith.

[5:05:33] To know Alex was to feel

[5:05:33] welcome and loved.

[5:05:37] She loved all people and all

[5:05:37] the people loved her.

[5:05:38] That's true.

[5:05:38] Alex lived with intention.

[5:05:42] She found joy in the simple

[5:05:43] things that many of us take for

[5:05:43] granted.

[5:05:44] She reminded us to watch

[5:05:47] the sunrise in the sunset to go

[5:05:48] to the beach to have meaningful

[5:05:49] conversations with friends And

[5:05:53] she spent so much time with her

[5:05:53] family, her circle of friends

[5:05:54] and family.

[5:05:55] Though she was born into it

[5:05:58] though she chose along the way

[5:05:58] .

[5:05:59] We're so blessed to have her in

[5:06:00] our lives for 34 years.

[5:06:04] After graduating from csu she

[5:06:05] ultimately found her way to

[5:06:06] working for her sister Kim

[5:06:06] Miller at Miller Public

[5:06:06] Affairs.

[5:06:10] As a senior account executive

[5:06:10] she loved working in public

[5:06:11] affairs.

[5:06:11] She loved coming to City hall.

[5:06:16] She loved working with many of

[5:06:16] us in this building.

[5:06:17] And it turns out she loved

[5:06:18] organizing speakers in

[5:06:21] the chambers and making public

[5:06:22] comments.

[5:06:22] Bless her.

[5:06:23] In her role at npr, Alex was

[5:06:24] honored to be a part of

[5:06:28] the efforts that helped improve

[5:06:28] the lives of others throughout

[5:06:29] the San Diego family.

[5:06:33] In addition, she volunteered

[5:06:33] She supported and engaged

[5:06:34] various organizations in her

[5:06:35] public affairs work including

[5:06:39] odi, the San Diego and Imperial

[5:06:40] Labor Council's annual dinner.

[5:06:41] And she did food drives and toy

[5:06:41] drives for others.

[5:06:45] She participated with the San

[5:06:45] Diego Future Foundation,

[5:06:46] the City Heights edc, the San

[5:06:50] Diego Fire Rescue Foundation.

[5:06:51] And one of her favorites She

[5:06:52] always participated in drives

[5:06:52] for Lincoln High School.

[5:06:55] Alex Libby was the loveliest

[5:06:56] daughter sister auntie these

[5:06:57] sister in law, cousin and

[5:06:57] friend.

[5:07:02] Cancer in Italy took her life

[5:07:02] but when she met it with

[5:07:03] the same things you do.

[5:07:07] But she met that cancer with

[5:07:08] the same strength she displayed

[5:07:08] when she entered the world only

[5:07:09] 34 years ago.

[5:07:15] Here's a quote from C.S. Lewis.

[5:07:16] Remember her graph him like

[5:07:16] the sky It spread over

[5:07:19] everything but it's always

[5:07:19] there.

[5:07:19] Thank you so much.

[5:07:25] Thank you, Councilmember Bangle

[5:07:26] .

[5:07:26] We'll MISS Both of them.

[5:07:27] With that we would join counsel

[5:07:30] to the next regularly scheduled

[5:07:30] council meeting on Monday,

City Council Meetings — Tuesday Agenda Revised Added S500-S507

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