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Agenda

[0:00] 7:00 p.m.  - Pledge Of Allegiance
[0:14] Roll Call
[0:32] Changes To Agenda - None
[0:39] Public Comment
[2:59] Resolutions - Public Hearing
[12:04] Urban Renewal Agency - Public Hearing
[16:27] Bid Recommendation for Urban Renewal Facade Program
[26:10] Ordinances
[26:36] Ordinance 2011-08 - Franchise Agreement--First Reading
[37:20] Ordinance 2011-05 - Municipal Broadband Facilities in New Subdivisions--First Reading
[46:53] Ordinance 2011-06 - Dog Control--Second Reading
[48:21] Ordinance 2011-07 - Prohibited Parking--Second Reading
[55:10] New Business
[55:15] Hoodview Disposal Fees Update
[1:02:55] Stormwater Detention Facility
[1:08:25] Street Closure Request
[1:11:09] Consent Agenda
[1:11:26] City Manager’s Reports
[1:14:35] City Council Reports
[1:34:49] Adjourn

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[0:00] Please do the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all.
[0:12] We have roll call, please. Councilor Pizzo, here, Councillor Coleman, here, Councillor Butler, excused.
[0:24] Councillor Moyer, here, Councillor Exner, here, Councillor Gerber, here, and Mayor King, here.
[0:32] Any changes to the agenda?
[0:39] Any public comment on items not on the agenda?
[0:44] Would you state your name and address with record please?
[0:47] Hi, Dennis Bachman, 18035, we record, and you have said side of recent good morning Sandy.
[0:55] put on by the Sandy Area Chamber of Commerce and there was brought to our
[0:59] attention that Sandy's public information officer, the one Alice
[1:06] Lashar Bush right now is the one who fills that position. They're planning on
[1:11] cutting that position completely and what she does is after I've done some
[1:15] research not only as she got into a million dollars not last nine years of me
[1:19] with the grants, for she's helped right, but she goes to schools in various other places
[1:28] that you can have apartment complex managers can have her come to the department complex
[1:33] and teach about the second story, one of the changes, there's all kinds of good things
[1:37] that she probably prevents that we'll never know about.
[1:42] The truck doesn't roll because she does her job or whoever feels that position does her
[1:48] job now on the 14th of this month at the fire annex. She's going to the city, the people
[1:55] are going to need the support for that position, not just this lady. I urge everyone to
[2:01] talk about this and look into it and be there. Thank you.
[2:05] Any
[2:08] other public comments? I'm Sharon McCalla at 1-8-0-3-5. We record. I'm also her just to say
[2:14] a little bit about the public information offers position. I wasn't really aware until
[2:18] I was brought to my attention to being eliminated, so I did a little research and the things that Dennis mentioned, but I also did the last couple of years, I noticed that that public information officer is the person who goes to the family after their home is destroyed by fire.
[2:33] And is there for the kind of support that you really can't get anywhere else?
[2:36] And I think that's something that so many cities or so many towns lack is that somebody's there to actually assist the family in that this is a heart-breaking time.
[2:45] And I just think that's a really important piece that would be ashamed of the lose.
[2:49] Thank you.
[2:50] Thank you.
[2:53] Any other public comments?
[2:58] Well, we have our first resolution, the staff report.
[3:04] So yes, we have a whole slew of resolutions actually before you tonight, to which we'll
[3:09] fall under the Urban and Rule Board jurisdiction and we'd invited members of the Chamber and
[3:15] the Fire District to be with us tonight.
[3:18] The first three resolutions, instead of kind of going through and talking about each line item,
[3:26] what each budget item is representing, I'd be happy to go into more detail about particular items
[3:34] that are presented in the resolutions, but I thought I'd just go over the main point of each resolution.
[3:40] The supplemental budget resolution is a change to the current biennial budget,
[3:44] budget, but it's a resolution to increase what has already been adopted previously.
[3:51] And so in each of the three cases that are included in the supplemental budget, there
[3:55] were revenues identified to cover the costs that are also associated with the increase
[4:02] in the budget.
[4:05] For the second resolution, 2011-12, this is just approving transfers within the current
[4:12] year budget. So we have major object categories like personnel or capital
[4:19] outlay and at times especially right towards the end of the buy-in and we find
[4:23] that one category may be over budget while another may be under budget and
[4:28] these transfers help kind of make up the difference and transfer portions of the
[4:34] budget with access to portions of the budget that may have a shortage. What this
[4:38] This does just help us to avoid an audit finding at the end of the biennium.
[4:45] Budgets are a guideline and are meant to help us estimate what we think the figures
[4:49] will be occasionally just doesn't come out that way and so we find budget categories
[4:54] that have excess and budget categories that sort of shortages.
[4:58] So this transfer right toward the end of the biennium kind of helps to mitigate those effects
[5:03] and transfer funds where they may be needed.
[5:06] And then the final resolution for the city is the actual adoption of the next
[5:11] biennial budget. This is the same budget that was approved by the Budget Committee and
[5:18] recommended by the Budget Committee, saved that the one minor change with the water fund.
[5:24] We transferred some money from other capital outlay items into the automatic
[5:29] need a reading line item so the net effect was zero but those numbers have been
[5:36] changed within the final category. So those are the three budget resolutions
[5:41] before the city and I'd be happy to go into any specific detail or answering
[5:45] questions about any of the different line items. I tried to lay them out there in
[5:49] the staff report but if there are any questions I'd be happy to go over.
[5:53] Well just the way I read it and what you've explained to me before this does
[5:58] increase the overall budget but just rather each department's budget and it's
[6:03] taken from other departments to just balance things out on the yeah
[6:07] 2011-12 the resolution 2011-10 actually does increase the current year budget
[6:14] but we identified revenue sources that offset those increases could you
[6:20] explain to me what those revenue sources are yeah we didn't see those earlier in
[6:24] the budget. So in the first, this is in resolution 2011-10, right? So there were three funds
[6:31] affected. And in the general fund, the revenue source was actually additional, or money
[6:36] that we requested from the county early on. We weren't supposed to receive any part of
[6:42] that. We weren't supposed to receive the million dollars from the county to help fund the
[6:46] library renovation until July. And we'd asked some, for some earlier funds to help cover
[6:51] some of the architectural engineering fees that it occurred with with the library. So that's the
[6:59] 200,000 that we repress this, so we're going to get 800,000 once the new fiscal year begins.
[7:04] In the long run, we're still going to get the same million dollars. It's not actually additional money.
[7:10] It's just early money. Yeah. Okay. And that's on the previous by any, the one we're just going to
[7:15] current in the current one right now yeah that's just about the end yeah so
[7:19] as what is done is it's created that capital outlay category in the general
[7:23] fund it's caused that to go over okay and we would get an audit finding if we
[7:28] didn't do something about that so this but plenty of the book yeah say we have
[7:33] the revenue identified we'd like to increase the budget amount for that
[7:37] category and this is the amount in the sewer fund it's actually almost the
[7:42] technicality. It's an accounting rule that we're required to do. We took out
[7:46] at least to get the vacuum truck. You've probably seen rolling around town for
[7:50] public works. Accounting rules require us to book the revenue and the expense
[7:57] in the fiscal year that happened. So it's a net zero effect, but it causes that
[8:03] expense line to really shoot up. And so that's all this is really doing is
[8:09] saying, well, we've booked the revenue as well as he
[8:13] expense, but this just kind of brings the budget in line
[8:15] with what's already happened.
[8:20] And then with the telecommunications fund,
[8:22] that's a little bit more complicated.
[8:23] This is a combination of two different things.
[8:26] The first is capital E similar to what was in the sewer fund.
[8:30] We entered into a capital E to fund the purchase
[8:34] of additional wireless access points that went around the city
[8:37] need to help us increase our coverage for sanding that.
[8:41] And so the same county rule applied that the Book the Revenue and Book the Expense
[8:47] in the year that it occurred so it caused that line item, that capital outlay category
[8:52] to go over budget.
[8:54] But the second thing that happened is that we entered into or received that grant for
[9:00] the BIT project, the broadband initiatives program project.
[9:04] And when we, when Scott had originally put together a budget for the telecommunications fund, he'd only budgeted $500,000 but the grant loan amount that we actually ended up receiving was $750,000.
[9:18] So we're spending as if we were going to be reimbursed for $750,000, but there's only $500,000 in the budget.
[9:24] So that $442,000 in revenue is a combination of the $250,000 increase for the BIT program and the capital lease amount, which was like $192
[9:44] ,000.
[9:46] Just a request, I guess, this is only part of the budget committee.
[9:52] We have a chance to talk with any budget committee members that are not part of the council.
[9:56] It wasn't, you know, it's not required that the budget committee be present for formal adoption of the next biennium budget
[10:02] They were
[10:04] Welcome to be here. Okay. They wanted to but yeah, local budget law
[10:08] Just requires the final adoption be done by the the full city council
[10:12] Got that right and we already shouldn't have to be doing this so the state law
[10:17] Dates that requires to go through these generation it dates back to the reform era a hundred years ago and you know
[10:23] management practices have actually changed in 100 years, but the state
[10:28] the way it manages this stuff hasn't and you know we have philosophy to look at
[10:38] the bottom line make sure we you know expenditures are covered by revenues and
[10:43] again this is a fairly antiquated procedure and not one that other states impose
[10:47] on cities too as not surprisingly Oregon is a kind of micro-manages local
[10:52] government on this issue is in so many others but you know the council has seen the actual
[10:59] financial reports and you know we give you the revenue expenditures and that's where we
[11:04] kind of watch are we you know we operating in the whole but we're not the grants have come in
[11:11] the financing the council has seen all these policy issues already so this really is just a
[11:17] Housekeeping matter to try to keep modern financial management consistent with antiquated Oregon Statues.
[11:25] So
[11:31] I'd entertain the motion at this time if there's no other questions.
[11:34] I move that we accept resolutions 2011-10, 2011-12, and 2011-13 as given to us by the staff.
[11:48] Motion by Carl second by Jeremy that we adopt resolutions 2011-10-12-13
[11:56] All those in favor signify by say nine.
[11:59] Aye.
[11:59] Opposed?
[12:00] Motion carries.
[12:02] And we have the, we need to convene the urban renewal agency.
[12:07] And I hereby convene the urban renewal agency.
[12:10] Recognize Paul.
[12:10] Well yeah, Wenzel McLean is representing the Chamber of Commerce, note that there is no fire department representative here.
[12:22] What do we have? What do you have for set?
[12:24] Pretty much something very similar to what was presented for the city, just a supplemental budget, which is increasing the budget amount.
[12:32] But again has a revenue to offset it.
[12:34] This was the decision made by the council to construct the police station earlier than was in the urban removal plan.
[12:42] So we had to go out and get the bond issuance to cover that.
[12:47] So we, of course, overshot our revenue budget.
[12:49] We overshot our expense budget.
[12:51] And this supplemental budget helps us to, again, bring it back in line to reality.
[12:58] And then the second resolution is the, again, the second, or the budget adoption for the next Friday.
[13:04] Any fun?
[13:09] Mayor, we're free to take action.
[13:11] Since you do have a spare seat up there to record the policies, but you might ask her to go and counsel.
[13:17] That way we can get her on the tape.
[13:19] And then the Tracy's issue has a little more substance, frankly, at least, too.
[13:28] Yeah.
[13:29] We have any questions on either of those items for me.
[13:39] Would that be questions or comments because the chamber represented by did have a comment?
[13:46] First of all, on the chambers, on behalf of the chamber, we just want to say that we're
[13:52] really excited about all the changes that we've seen with the SOD program and think that
[13:55] the staff have done an incredible job with it.
[13:58] What I did want to comment on and I just wanted to kind of put it on the City Council's radar
[14:04] and on yours is that according to the bid process it was only necessary for the
[14:11] city to send out written requests for vids to three contractors and we have a
[14:17] lot more than three contractors that are within the city and our chamber members
[14:21] is a matter of fact. So I just thought it would be not only more transparent but also
[14:27] better received by our business community if we have things that are going out to
[14:32] bit of any substantial amount for the city, not just contractors, but, you know, other
[14:37] things as well, that we make sure to let your chamber membership know, and our, you know,
[14:43] just a little bit broader outreach, it seems like that would be better for the city as well
[14:46] to have more than just a few people, even though it's only required to notify three,
[14:57] or
[14:57] and only receive back work time too.
[15:00] I know. And that's my whole point. It's only set out to seven. So if you had a broader net, he would have had more business commitments. So did we send that out to specific contractors, or do we also publish it in any? You know, I'll ask Tracy to comment when we get to that agenda item. Yeah, nice.
[15:16] Okay.
[15:20] Any other
[15:25] comments?
[15:26] Questions?
[15:29] I'll make a motion that we approve.
[15:32] Resolution 2011-11.
[15:36] The Urban Renewal Supplemental Budget for 09-11.
[15:41] And the Resolution 2-2011-14.
[15:47] The Urban Renewal says 2011-14.
[15:51] is that right or should it be 13?
[15:55] That's not the year.
[15:56] It's just the US.
[15:57] You guys all that's on the number.
[15:58] Yeah.
[15:58] 2014.
[15:59] Resolution over.
[16:01] Okay, anyway, I got a decision.
[16:04] Five second, then motion.
[16:06] I'm motion by Lois, second by Phil.
[16:08] That we adopt.
[16:10] Urban Renewal Agency Resolution 2011.
[16:14] Dash 11 and 2011.
[16:16] Dash 14.
[16:17] All those in favor, signify by say 9.
[16:19] I opposed motions here.
[16:24] Tracing?
[16:25] I was tracing it to talk about this.
[16:29] You know, we did issue a single grant.
[16:33] I'm
[16:36] just going to step down before you get going.
[16:38] Is it okay if I sit in the audience?
[16:40] Yes, thank you.
[16:46] And in the last cycle, we had a single contractor
[16:52] for the work on the side program.
[16:55] I mean, we did, I trace, we did want to especially seek out local contractors to do it.
[17:01] So that's what, that's why we're here today.
[17:04] So, Chris, yeah, so, yeah, based on the advice of the city, let me just start the beginning.
[17:10] So, yeah, this is for the second round of the sod projects, or the second year,
[17:16] and what I'm calling the first round, and I think that I anticipate two or possibly three rounds
[17:22] of projects this year. I'm still working on those projects. And, you know, based on the advice of
[17:28] the city attorney, instead of doing the formal bidding process where you put it in the daily journal
[17:36] commerce and solicit bids from basically the world, this intermediate procurement process
[17:43] allows us to just solicit bids. So it's a simpler process than us and it allows us actually to
[17:51] open it more closely to local folks and so that's what I did, you know, I did, you know,
[17:58] how, how, how is this common as, as noted, you know, I racked my brain, I asked everybody
[18:03] at City Hall and around who should I send this to and I sent it to everybody that I could
[18:08] think of which was these seven different contractors, you know, on the future. We did put on our website
[18:13] as well and well in advance. In the future, I'll definitely, you know, send it to the chamber
[18:19] and they could solicit it, you know, get it out there as well.
[18:24] But anyway, the project, the process we followed, you know,
[18:29] there's a timeline in there and I did receive,
[18:32] we did have a mandatory pre-bid meeting.
[18:35] And the purpose of that was just so contractors could come,
[18:39] get the information from myself and the architect
[18:42] about the project.
[18:44] And actually only two people picked up the plans
[18:46] and two people attended this pre-bid meeting,
[18:49] and we received two bids.
[18:51] So, and if you look at the bids,
[18:54] hold all of a, you know, we felt pretty good.
[18:56] They were relatively close in the amounts.
[19:00] And as a total, they're right in the ballpark
[19:03] of what the city architect had estimated.
[19:07] They looked slightly higher, but not by very much.
[19:11] And so we feel good about the amounts of the bids.
[19:14] After the initial bidding,
[19:16] I did meet with the contractors actually today, and that's why you have just received this tonight, and they've
[19:23] voluntarily and basically agreed to split the job between the two of them.
[19:29] Typically, on a project like this, we would just take the low bidder, and they would get all of the work.
[19:35] In this case, both of the contractors are interested in splitting it up.
[19:40] And, you know, the result of that, I think, is a win for everybody, in a sense, the two contractors each get two of the jobs.
[19:49] And as I noted in my final paragraph there, because we're taking the low bid for each contractor, the amount that the city will ultimately be charged would be less than if we had taken the low bid of one of the contractors.
[20:04] So it's a win-win in that way, and it is keeping the work local.
[20:10] So with that, we're recommending that we award to KLM construction in the amount of
[20:17] $56,500 for the double dragon and 7-11 projects and full throttle construction in the amount
[20:24] of $32,261 for the Anne Farm, it's any chainsaw and frontier building north projects.
[20:32] And I'm glad to answer any questions.
[20:36] It just looks to me like that is the most, the best decision you could make to save money.
[20:42] And stay at the job done.
[20:44] And as I'm sure you're probably aware,
[20:48] Full throttle did the ACE hardware billing.
[20:49] They did a great job on that.
[20:51] And I personally know the KLM construction people and I know they do good work too.
[20:56] So they did work on the museum and our city community center remodel project.
[21:02] All right, so we're familiar with their work and I think they should be very easy to work with and are known for quality work.
[21:09] So Tracy, do you have any signs of what's the 4.5 for you?
[21:15] Yeah, I didn't bring those with me, but I would be glad to share those with you.
[21:21] Yeah, I've been sure.
[21:22] Yeah, I'd like to see them too. That'd be great.
[21:24] So Trissi, you saved up to round two and round three coming up.
[21:29] Depending on the same kind of process they did here.
[21:32] That's what I'm hoping, you know, based on the advice of David, because of the size of projects.
[21:39] There's not a legal requirement to do this other type of.
[21:46] The world wide kind of thing.
[21:49] Well, I sure want to compliment you on getting it local.
[21:51] This is really.
[21:54] You're really typically pretty limited in terms of this process allows for us to be more flexible
[22:01] in terms of local contractors. That's one reason that was attractive. Some people will say even
[22:07] if you can do it this way, you're better off going through some sort of a, if not a full-blown
[22:12] formal process, something that gets public bids out there because they have drive costs down.
[22:17] You know, you're constantly kind of weighing sort of a six and one half dozen the other approach is some of these things because
[22:23] While that may argue you through it. It's a lot more staff time the front end to do all that so there's cost them while they're and
[22:30] you know
[22:32] basically to you can't just go out and say all we want to do is hire local contractors
[22:38] But you can through this process obviously, you know have your direct your attention more closely on this
[22:44] It's not due to the dollar value amount.
[22:48] What is the dollar value?
[22:49] No.
[22:49] Is that due to the dollar value?
[22:50] Yes, mayor.
[22:51] What's the limit?
[22:52] $100,000.
[22:54] And is that an aggregate for the whole thing, or is that per?
[22:58] It's for the great question.
[23:01] It's for the project.
[23:02] And so sometimes we get into basically what the law says is that you can't start artificially
[23:07] dividing things up in order to avoid thresholds.
[23:10] Right.
[23:10] So what the way I've sort of approached these questions, you know, with clients over the years to say, okay, well, you know, at this point, what are you ready to go and do, you know, and that's when we talk with Tracy, so right now, I got four projects that are ready to go.
[23:24] And I said, okay, let's look at that as the project for right now, and if more come along, you if it's likely, if they're not ready, we can, you know, I think reasonably wait.
[23:33] We're not doing that artificially, we're not trying to avoid anything.
[23:37] So I think in this case, it just works out really well based on timing and projects that are in the pipeline that will probably be utilized again.
[23:47] And then for Tracy, when will this start and be projected to be finished on these?
[23:52] Well, we're hoping to, you know,
[23:55] assuming you approve this,
[23:57] we'll hopefully sign a contract this week
[23:59] with the applicants or the contractors.
[24:03] And then they have, I think it was 120 days completed,
[24:07] but I get, my guess is it will be sooner than that.
[24:11] You know, they will have to,
[24:12] we talked to them today about, you know,
[24:14] the need to not, you know,
[24:17] have things torn open during Mount Festival.
[24:19] So there's always that weekend,
[24:21] and you've got to plan around.
[24:22] That's everything, yeah.
[24:23] So they'll do as much as they can up until that point
[24:26] and then take a break and then probably come back
[24:30] and finish it.
[24:30] Both contractors are able to and available
[24:34] to complete the work as soon as possible.
[24:37] Great.
[24:37] Thank you.
[24:38] Not to interrupt the break, either.
[24:41] Right, no, yeah.
[24:42] I'm just going to leave you alone.
[24:43] Right, so that, yeah, no, they'll be
[24:46] butting things up, you know, that week before.
[24:49] Tracy, I just wanted to say I do appreciate you trying to hire local people as much as possible and we talked about.
[24:58] It's just that Chamber of Commerce needs to feel like they're aware of it.
[25:05] Great.
[25:06] Any other questions, comments?
[25:10] Nope.
[25:16] I'm wishing that the approval of the SOG Master of Programs to see the bid recommendation for approval of the SOG program will be approved.
[25:28] And I'll second motion by haul a second by Carl that we follow staff recommendation award construction contracts to KLM and
[25:40] whole throttle construction to do facade repairs improvements. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[25:48] Aye.
[25:50] Opposed?
[25:51] Motion carries.
[25:52] Thank you.
[25:57] Next.
[25:58] I'm going to close the urban thing.
[26:01] Yes.
[26:01] Urban Reserve Board is closed and reconvene a council.
[26:10] Staff report on ordinance 2011-08 franchise agreement.
[26:15] Mayor or council, this has been a long time coming.
[26:17] The current franchise agreement originally expired in late 2009.
[26:21] I've been working on it ever since.
[26:24] Most of our work has been through an attorney representing wave, David Hanken, but he's obviously communicated with the wave staff.
[26:33] It's been done in parallel with Clackham's County as well and the franchise agreement we're recommending is very similar to theirs.
[26:40] You had a workshop recently where Nancy Werner explained some of the provisions in the franchise and what you see tonight before you in the ordinance form.
[26:51] is essentially what you saw in the workshop.
[26:54] There's a couple of blanks that I'll definitely highlight,
[26:57] because they're important missing pieces.
[27:00] There's some minor language changes
[27:02] that we pretty much worked out in conference calls
[27:06] between Nancy, myself, Mr. Hank, and Karen Danager,
[27:11] by the way, is here.
[27:12] I represent a wave.
[27:14] She's the general manager for wave broadband in the area
[27:18] that includes the Sandy service area.
[27:22] The missing, I have no hesitation to recommending the franchise agreement as it's written, the areas of where we still have some blanks and we're hoping to get these worked out between now and the second reading is the term of the agreement and the amount to be paid for access equipment and this again was a discussion for the council workshop as well.
[27:51] The term and way CZs is linked, because if they have to find a higher amount for the equipment, they want a longer franchise, basically to amortize that cost.
[28:04] And so we're still talking about that and don't have a specific recommendation.
[28:09] We had their proposed at the workshop of 12-year term to tie it to the counties.
[28:15] Technically, though, the counties is 12 with a five-year extension provision.
[28:23] Is that not at all?
[28:25] You hear what I'm saying?
[28:26] Well, I think it's a certain criteria that it is automatic.
[28:28] Nancy and I have proposed some ability to mutually agree to extend it,
[28:34] But it would be neutral, where either party could say now let's come up with a new one.
[28:41] And so that's still an open issue.
[28:42] And again, we hope to have something that both parties can recommend by the next meeting,
[28:46] if not, we'll ask you to hold off.
[28:49] And again, the amount for the access equipment fees is still an open issue.
[28:55] The council noted that there might be additional programming needs.
[28:58] if encased amount of college, for example, gets a satellite installation out here.
[29:04] But by the same focal way that has asked us to kind of describe what kind of programming
[29:10] we envision coming as a result of this equipment.
[29:14] And we've shared that because I think we have a mutual interest here.
[29:18] If we as a city are going to require the company to pass on the fee to the subscribers,
[29:25] you know, we have an interest in making sure those subscribers are getting their
[29:28] money's worth. Whatever that cost is, we want it to be programming that they
[29:34] will enjoy seeing. I think the options are very much in the cities and the
[29:40] company's best interest if we can pull this off. If we could have sports coverage
[29:45] from the high school, all the very sports that they do in their facilities near
[29:48] the high school campus, if you think about it, it could be everything from football
[29:52] games to attendance matches because they don't have outstanding facilities there and if they could
[29:57] they could do that coverage.
[30:00] And then if you think about it, think about, if you've ever been to a Mr. Dornbecker competition as the fundraiser for Dornbecker days, that is just good entertainment. I mean, I think that would be something that I think a broader community would really enjoy seeing if we could do that. It would give, it would give something special for the cable company that this and Greg TV cannot offer. So we're still discussing that. And I think it's true of mutual interest to come up with some arrangement to provide.
[30:29] By quality programming, it's truly local that will give wave, frankly, a competitive
[30:35] advantage in the TV service.
[30:38] But that's where we are.
[30:39] I would urge you to invite Karen to speak to you from first standpoint.
[30:44] We hope, again, we hope to work out these final details before the second reading next month
[30:49] because the way we have it now, it's set to expire at the end of this month.
[30:54] And, frankly, I don't want to do any more extensions, so that's the timeline we're working
[30:59] forward. Okay, Karen, would you like to address please? Please.
[31:08] I'm Karen Danorher
[31:09] at the Vice President of Oregon Operations for Green Park and I've been involved
[31:14] in all of the conversations pretty much with regard to the franchise's extension.
[31:20] I think that we've come to a mutual agreement on all areas and even the two remaining
[31:28] I don't think it's something that's going to hold us up, so if you have some questions
[31:38] about me, is it willing to answer your question?
[31:43] Are you pretty enabled to send the equipment we're talking about from providing for the
[31:49] community college and the school system that Scott talked about earlier?
[31:53] How does that feel as far as your company?
[31:56] I think we have looked at the list.
[31:58] We see that it's a, let's say, a year, kind of a graduation of a commitment.
[32:04] So, we feel that the equipment is appropriate,
[32:10] we have some agreement on what your programming
[32:13] is going to be.
[32:14] As Scott said, we find sometimes it's come to us and want us to spend very large amounts
[32:21] of money on equipment and do all of these, you know, grandiose things that they're going
[32:26] to provide programming and they never provide any programming.
[32:29] And, you know, that's our concern, that our customers are going to tune into something they want to see, and they're not going to be looking at the same program in our 12 times over and over and over and over, so I think that the list that we saw, and I believe just from the connection I've had with this, you know, thank community, since we've come on board that you guys are intending to do something for RAM and I'm sure you will.
[32:59] So I think that we'll come to some agreement on that with any problem.
[33:03] Great, great.
[33:04] I see, as I'm a subscriber, I see that you keep adding channels, more options, more programs.
[33:11] Sure.
[33:12] And if we're going to continue to see that in the future, then I think the community would
[33:18] partake very nicely at that.
[33:20] Sure. I think Pag is an important component that people operator can provide
[33:25] That's nobody else can't rely on right today and that's kind of the local connection that we have as far as
[33:31] other stuff great
[33:38] I'm not a subscriber
[33:41] But I wanted to know a little bit about how
[33:45] You handle
[33:47] customer service issues
[33:49] As there's been a problems from the community in general because the city here about
[33:56] that at all?
[33:59] How's it about the rest?
[34:02] I can address that. I had a couple of issues and I can tell you they were
[34:07] very promptly and took care of the problem right away.
[34:11] I mean, it was no, certainly wasn't like talking to somebody in the
[34:15] year of Pakistan that I couldn't understand. They just took care of it.
[34:19] Well, I think that we have it through our franchise. We have a process to handle
[34:22] customer complaints. Anybody within the city is welcome to contact me anytime if
[34:28] they're not getting any response from our local group. We did open a local office
[34:35] here in Sandy to help connect customers here as prior you know there was no
[34:42] office and so there was some disconnection there. I'm not aware of any
[34:47] You know, and I can come from where I can, from my perspective, the volume that finally
[34:52] come to the city out of frustration has been less underweighed by the end than it was previously.
[34:58] I think we could document that.
[35:01] And the ones that we've only been a couple that have made it to us when people are frustrated
[35:07] and the company's been very responsive and resolving the complaint.
[35:10] Now, that's not to say that there's some, I know even a member of council never did get
[35:15] service and found some other alternatives. So there could be things that get dropped
[35:19] and I never hear about it. But the ones that I do hear about that the company's been
[35:24] very responsive. Good.
[35:28] Any other questions?
[35:31] Thank you. I guess I'm going to call for a
[35:38] First reading of ordnance 2011-08.
[35:42] Let me bring it up here.
[35:45] Oops.
[35:53] Here it is.
[35:53] Ordnance 2011-08.
[35:55] Ordnance granting a non-exclusive cable television franchise
[35:59] to wave broadband, fixing terms, conditions,
[36:01] and compensation of such franchise,
[36:03] and repealing ordnance 21-94.
[36:06] 4.
[36:14] In accordance, 2,011 gas zero weight, ready to cable television franchise the wave.
[36:21] I second that motion.
[36:23] Emotion by Lewis.
[36:24] Second by Aldo.
[36:26] That we adopt orders 2,011 dash 08, an ordinance granting a non-exclusive cable television franchise
[36:32] to wave broadband, fixing terms, conditions, and compensation of such franchise and repelling
[36:37] ordinance 21 dash 94.
[36:39] All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[36:42] Aye.
[36:44] I have a question, is this last franchise originally done with talking cables?
[36:50] Yes.
[36:50] So you just get charged all the time?
[36:52] Yeah.
[36:53] They assume Falcons provisions.
[36:57] And that was like a 12th page frame.
[36:58] That's a agreement.
[37:00] So now we have a 66 page one.
[37:03] I saw that.
[37:04] This is not completed.
[37:05] Yeah.
[37:06] More reading.
[37:07] More reading.
[37:10] Wonderful.
[37:18] That's why you come here.
[37:20] ordinance 2011 national five.
[37:23] Mayor council this is a direct response to a city council fall to at least get the procedures in place
[37:31] to provide a standing at five or to the premises for you know for for kind of the future service.
[37:40] It does definitely seem to be the direction to go.
[37:44] We are certainly not on the leading edge here.
[37:48] Many cities have gone ahead and done this.
[37:52] The Sandy Net Advisory Board has been very supportive as well, but it is a council goal.
[37:59] We did need to make some minor changes to our development code to require contractors to put in condo at the time of construction.
[38:08] They already have to do that, of course, for water, sewer, street, street lighting, stormwater, and other public improvements, and this would just be one of those.
[38:18] Tracy managed the process through the Planning Commission, and they did review and recommend and approve.
[38:24] Well, they did have some questions.
[38:25] There are good questions.
[38:27] A number of those have already been addressed operationally by the Standing Advisory Board, and we'll deal with them as a utility issue.
[38:35] for example we will try to you know the contractor would put in frankly the
[38:41] stuff that's relatively easy when the trenches are open. We'll use a common
[38:45] trench for the utilities and they'll drop the conduit in. We won't require
[38:53] we don't intend to require the contractors to go outside the subdivision so if
[38:59] we need to get back haul to the subdivision we would take care of that. The city
[39:04] would own the conduit and fiber once it's installed as we do with all the other, well it's
[39:09] most of the other utilities.
[39:11] One question, too, is well potential competitors be allowed to use the conduit and or the
[39:15] fiber.
[39:16] I was a little surprised at Karela.
[39:19] Actually, this is one area that we would partner with other companies to make services available
[39:26] to people, residents who, you know, once they pay for their pipe, this broadband pipe,
[39:31] Right, we want to make them, you know, have as many services as possible that they can
[39:36] get.
[39:37] We're only going to be doing an internet.
[39:38] We're not going to be doing the so-called triple play.
[39:41] And so that if they wanted, if the customers, our subscribers wanted to use that fiber facility
[39:47] to get access to waves programming, you know, we really see an opportunity for a partnership
[39:52] there with wave with facilities here in town to use our fiber network to get programming
[40:00] to homes, or frankly, others too, I mean, competition sure doesn't hurt.
[40:05] Have we brought that up in the negotiations for their action?
[40:07] Yeah, now we didn't want to mix the franchise approval with this.
[40:13] One provision in the franchise says that if we're going in with fiber,
[40:17] they don't have to put cable because it is technically feasible for them to serve
[40:22] a TV service to people using our fiber system, so we're not going to
[40:27] require them to over-build us.
[40:30] They accepted that change.
[40:32] They wanted to make a comment in the franchise agreement
[40:35] that they didn't necessarily agree with us
[40:37] wiring homes, but we said, you can share that.
[40:40] But we did talk about the possibilities for partnership.
[40:44] We've had the same conversation with Frontier,
[40:46] and they've also been open to the concept.
[40:48] It's a new model for them.
[40:50] But I think they understand that their phone experts,
[40:54] and the person wants to have their home wired
[40:57] for a standard dial tone, you know, they're in a good position to do that.
[41:01] So I think that's the answer to the other question from the planning commission.
[41:05] I know they're good questions, but it's not like we haven't thought about those.
[41:10] I don't think the cost to the developer will be very minimal, but the value in the subdivision
[41:16] to have a fiber-ready is going to be substantial.
[41:20] I think compared to a number of things that contractors have to do, this is one that they'll be a
[41:26] no brainer for them to drop that conduit in when that trench is open.
[41:30] So Tracy, any other comments from the Plank Mission?
[41:34] I'm really happy.
[41:35] They had a public hearing and there were no public comments at the hearing, so that in
[41:41] that Scott mentioned, they're just to make this work.
[41:44] There's a few tweaks to the development code as you're, you know, containing the ordinance.
[41:51] It's a pretty minimal changes that make it possible.
[41:56] Also comment about from the standing end, or the side of things, equipment for the fiber
[42:02] in the palm, the way it works, the way the products that are looking at doing is similar
[42:09] to products that are used in other communities as well.
[42:13] So we are able to provide down that same fiber path, the internet, and then also in provide
[42:21] down that same path, a video or telephone, or something that hasn't been yet
[42:27] rustic in glass, and they come out and enter in, and they just peel off the wave
[42:32] black man connection or when he's here telephone connection. So it's nothing like
[42:36] something that's bringing out where it's been in. It's basically the same thing
[42:40] but similar to fire sprays, fire sprays, some of these type of things. It's easy
[42:49] the content down and they know the other end is divided and they can divide that out.
[42:55] He's separate.
[43:00] Scott, do you know if the wave is too bad she's left, has similar kinds of greenness with
[43:07] other cities like, you know, this, or we're talking about having them win off ours, would
[43:14] it be anybody else out there that they've done the same thing with or is it, are we kind
[43:17] of like the one and only guy?
[43:19] I don't know the answer to that because the only other major
[43:24] fiber to the whole municipal service that I'm aware of is
[43:28] on within the penance and there's this triple play. The city
[43:31] or the cooperative venture provides
[43:36] a full package for about $100 phone
[43:39] video and there he is. So I don't know
[43:44] if wave is doing this
[43:48] But again, as Jeremy points out, the technology is relatively new, but it's not unheard of.
[43:57] I think again it's the way to go.
[43:59] In the same way, we're going to be talking about the garbage franchise here in a moment.
[44:04] We franchise the garbage company, use our streets.
[44:07] They're using our street.
[44:09] And residents can get access to FedEx, you know, post office.
[44:13] There's a lot of services that get to the homes via our streets.
[44:16] It's the same thing.
[44:17] We're just providing as a utility.
[44:18] It's very efficient for us to provide that pipe, light it up, and the first step back
[44:22] and say, you know, whatever content you want to do, you know, it's open access.
[44:28] I think this is going to be the way of the future.
[44:31] I don't think there's any question about that.
[44:33] It's nice for them because they don't have to physically have to maintain that, they call
[44:38] a physical plan.
[44:40] Oh, sure.
[44:40] The city's going to be the city.
[44:47] The city's going to be the city.
[44:47] The city's going to be the city.
[44:47] The city's going to be the city.
[44:53] The city's going to be the city.
[44:54] to prepare to hand-made or run that thing with wet air system, if we just like to close
[45:02] So would that have to be quite a process or quite a bit, many what we're talking about, this, we repair things, somebody digs or. Talk about the transition does.
[45:18] It's a pretty protected pipe, I suspect. You don't tend to have leaks of zeros or ones as obviously.
[45:28] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[45:30] And those are his rules.
[45:31] Those are his rules.
[45:32] Those are his rules.
[45:32] Why call for a first reading of ordinance in 1011-5.
[45:37] Mayor just said, that's a point of order.
[45:38] We want to make sure we take hearings and test how many,
[45:41] and it's okay.
[45:42] Right here, so.
[45:42] Alright.
[45:43] I would invite public comment on this.
[45:46] Matter.
[45:50] Okay.
[45:50] There you go.
[45:51] Thank you.
[45:51] Now, I call for reading...
[45:52] First reading of ordinance, 2011-05 by Title Lone.
[45:56] We'll
[45:58] read it.
[45:59] Thanks for that.
[46:01] 2011.
[46:02] That's 05 in ordinance of many
[46:03] and Sandy municipal co-chapter 1784
[46:07] and 17100 regarding the installation
[46:10] of broadband fiber.
[46:16] Make a motion that we accept the first reading
[46:18] of ordinance 2011.
[46:20] Action.
[46:22] Second.
[46:23] Motion by Jeremy.
[46:25] Second by Phil.
[46:27] That we adopt ordinance 2011.
[46:29] 11.05 an ordinance amending standing musical code chapter 17.84 and 17.100 regarding the installation of broadband 5
[46:38] All those in favor signify by say hi
[46:54] 201106
[46:58] This one is
[47:00] second reading that
[47:01] Yeah, the ordinance you saw before where the chief was mentioned is just mostly house cleaning items on
[47:08] dark control and
[47:15] I would call for the
[47:16] Second reading of ordinance 2011 06 by title only.
[47:24] Oh
[47:25] Sorry, sorry, there you go
[47:27] Get there and notice mandering chapter 6.04 of the San Emeasible Code related to dog control and reaffirming all remaining provisions of chapter 6.04
[47:35] The San Emeasible Code
[47:44] 2011
[47:51] hit motion by Lois, second by Jeremy, that we adopted in 2011-06, in order to amend chapter 6.04 of the Sandy Municipal Code relating to
[48:01] dog control and reaffirming all remaining provisions of chapter 6.04 of the Sandy Municipal Code. All those in favor signify by say 9.
[48:13] That's quite a mouthful.
[48:14] Yes, it is.
[48:15] It's got motion passes.
[48:22] It's 2011-07.
[48:28] This is the second reading of an ordinance that you was before you at the May 16th meeting.
[48:34] And at that meeting, the council directed staff to do some outreach and notify people who would be affected by this.
[48:43] Code enforcement, Kim can elaborate on this better than I can.
[48:47] We developed a notice that indicated that the Secondary
[48:50] Disords would take place tonight, have an email and a fax contact
[48:56] for people who couldn't attend the meeting to present submit comments
[49:00] and Kim, Code enforcement staff, placed the notice on trucks and trailers
[49:07] that have been part of the industrial way over the last, since the 16th.
[49:13] And there was, I think there was a thing in paper last week about it, too, and I, as
[49:19] of this, I had one telephone call that just really wants a clarification of what would
[49:26] happen if your answer got to, and that's the only comment I have.
[49:30] I don't know if anybody in the audience is here to speak.
[49:33] We have any public comment on this ordinance, parking orders?
[49:38] And one thing I should mention, this issue came up at the first meeting as well, is
[49:44] if adopted with an emergency clause,
[49:47] the ordinance would be an effect for July 4th
[49:51] so that the area of industrial way would be open
[49:54] for people attending the fireworks display
[49:58] and parking on there.
[49:59] Otherwise it wouldn't take effect until the August,
[50:04] no, July 6th, the duration of the fireworks.
[50:10] You know, the emergency clause is just a way
[50:12] for under-organ law that you can make things be effective immediately.
[50:16] As staff, if we were to backtrack from the port, we could have had this to, you know,
[50:22] one meeting ahead to avoid that.
[50:23] There was just, it took some time to figure out the actual ordinance change would do this.
[50:28] And one of the issues we were dealing with and drafting this was, do we just make it site-specific
[50:33] to industrial way and we decided it would be better to do it city-wide so we don't kind
[50:39] of push the problem around.
[50:40] so that that did cost him the life so we try to avoid this but it doesn't you
[50:45] know you're not like crying saying the sky is falling with emergency calls
[50:50] just means you it's going to be effective immediately now we we can get the
[50:54] word out the folks so you know we're not going to worry about it too much until
[50:58] the fourth but they especially on that weekend there's going to be a lot of traffic
[51:01] I think they're in parking there.
[51:03] Particularly since we're in the fireworks overnight.
[51:05] Exactly, yeah.
[51:06] That's exactly right.
[51:06] Oh, but the comments that you got,
[51:08] did they just question or would they?
[51:11] Yeah, mostly just questions, and the fact
[51:15] that we were going to post it was just
[51:18] be a citywide thing.
[51:20] And that, you know, since it's all complaint generally
[51:22] and the biggest issue is, you know,
[51:24] first student will be occupying that facility
[51:28] and the next couple of weeks in schools
[51:29] will be starting again and the fall and so and that's really an issue there and then one of the
[51:35] the construction firm and industrial way to it has had trouble with getting in and out because of
[51:40] the other types of park industry. So that's really kind of the area we're focusing on but like Scott said
[51:45] you know when you tend to post an area that just moves it to another area they post that area and
[51:50] just moves it to another area so we just made this city wide and this is not uncommon when we were
[51:54] doing the research on the ordinance you know Portland has this in fact some of this
[51:58] language was listed from Portland's Code, most of it is from Mattress's Code, so it's
[52:06] not unusual, it prohibits this type of parking on city streets, and since it is
[52:10] some point driven, if somebody comes in Friday night and they're dead tired and
[52:16] they're going to be gone Sunday night, probably it won't be a big issue and they'll
[52:21] be able to do it, and it won't be an independent pound something right away, but we
[52:25] get people that are, as has been the case when they're actually operating
[52:35] I appreciate the effort that the city made in terms of reaching out to the work out there
[52:43] in ample time for them to make some other accommodations for their equipment.
[52:51] You think we'll be rushing it? You know, did I just create outreach?
[52:54] now we're going to do it a week early. You think that's going to throw some
[52:58] King King people's? Well actually my perception is is that we've already got
[53:01] the message out and I don't see nearly as many trucks there. Yeah I think we
[53:07] could provide more jeans of them. I think Kevin posted every vehicle that was out
[53:12] there the last two weeks so I noticed some of the regulars are not there.
[53:23] Yeah
[53:35] I'll add the emergency class to the title, and we'll probably have a section in there
[53:39] that says declaring emergency as well.
[53:41] That's the only thing I want to clarify, and the council wants to have it as emergency.
[53:45] Just make it as part of the motion.
[53:47] I think we should.
[53:48] Yeah.
[53:48] I'm sorry.
[53:49] Which day?
[53:50] Well, we did if we make it to the ordinance will be affected immediately, but we again we'll give people a transition period again
[53:58] We are goal is to try to get it get it pretty well cleared out by a month from now
[54:04] Yeah
[54:07] Good call for second reading. Yeah, I've got a cute up now ordinance
[54:14] It's a 2007-07 notice of many chapter 10.24 of the St.
[54:18] Missile Code relating to parking of trucks,
[54:20] semi-trailers, and trailers, and reaffirming declared
[54:25] an emergency, and reaffirming all removing
[54:27] provisions of chapter 10.24 of the St.
[54:29] Missile Code.
[54:30] That
[54:33] means that the second reading of 1 is 2011
[54:37] that actually serves 7, including the emergency.
[54:41] I'll check them down, question.
[54:43] Motion by Jeremy.
[54:44] Second by Olga.
[54:45] that we adopt ordinance 2011-07 in order to amend Chapter 10.24 of the
[54:51] sanding municipal code relating to parking of trucks, semi-trailers, and
[54:55] trailers, and reaffirming all remaining provisions of 10.24 of the sanding
[54:58] municipal code with an emergency clause making it effective immediately. All
[55:03] those in favor signify by saying aye.
[55:05] Aye.
[55:06] Opposed?
[55:07] Motion carries.
[55:11] Next order of business.
[55:12] New business.
[55:12] the view disposal fees update.
[55:17] Mayor of Council on this one, we did, in the past, we had a franchise agreement that was actually with waste management
[55:26] where any rate increases, they would come and argue for, and it was, you know, put the Council on common
[55:32] awkward spot of having to decide whether the company's rate increases were a reason or not.
[55:38] In the 2004 update where we actually put it out to bid and got a new hauler, in that franchise agreement we actually had sort of a formula for rate increases.
[55:52] So we'd have some certainty, some limitations on the things that would trigger it.
[55:57] And so one of the triggers though that does allow for an increase in the company's rates.
[56:03] In this case, it's going to be you disposal recycling.
[56:06] One of them is that the fees that they face, the dispose of garbage, the tipping fees at
[56:13] the landfill sites, and that's a formula that they run through.
[56:18] They use a consultant, Steve Donovan, who's good at this sort of thing.
[56:22] He's actually the same consultant we use for our stormwater fee analysis recently, and
[56:28] they have attached with their letter of calculations they went through, but the tipping fee increase
[56:33] is leading to an increase in their fees, their proposing.
[56:38] Initially in 2004, I think it was their fee increases were effective January 1st,
[56:43] but their reporting was on a calendar year, so it made it kind of hard to react quick enough.
[56:49] So we pushed it back to July 1st rate increases that also corresponds with our fiscal year.
[56:57] And what they're proposing is 57 cents a month for the average residential subscriber which
[57:05] is not unreasonable.
[57:08] And people obviously can still, if they have a 35 gallon roll card for a weekly service,
[57:15] if they can get to a smaller can, if they recycle more, they can go to a 20 gallon container and
[57:21] save some money.
[57:22] So there's options for people.
[57:23] People can sort of recycle everything.
[57:27] Recycling is free.
[57:28] Yard would be in recycles.
[57:30] So there's ways for customers to keep their costs down.
[57:34] But in any case, unless we change the franchise agreement
[57:36] or unless we dispute their numbers
[57:38] that this is a fairly automatic process.
[57:41] So I'm putting it before you.
[57:42] Not for you to take action, but to at least just acknowledge
[57:47] that they've requested that.
[57:48] It does correspond with that increase.
[57:51] I suppose they would be good for the council to vote on it except in accepting the rate increases they propose.
[58:00] What are we looking to go out for a new franchise?
[58:06] That sounded like it was 2004. It seemed like just yesterday.
[58:11] No, that's why I don't know.
[58:14] I have to look up what it is, but I think it's probably 10 years.
[58:17] So we'd be looking at 2014 and again, it would be a council decision at that time whether you want to open up the bids or
[58:25] Renegotiate the franchise and that'll be your call
[58:28] Cities do it one way or the others. There was a lot of work putting out the bed a lot of work. It turned out it was
[58:34] It was good. I'm glad we did
[58:39] We have this big tickler file that
[58:42] puts it on our calendar.
[58:44] In fact, one with PGE is coming up for actually
[58:46] in early 2012.
[58:49] And so we're already in discussions with PGE
[58:51] and with the city attorney on that.
[58:54] So last time we did this review came for me
[58:59] and discussed answers to the question.
[59:02] Yeah.
[59:03] Some questions I guess I have that we asked last time
[59:06] was word that for recycling, there are recycling
[59:10] I think as much as they used to recycle some of it in Styrofoam, other things because they didn't have a fire to offload that recycled material.
[59:21] I guess my question is, has that changed?
[59:24] Or will that change?
[59:25] Or will the ignition not be changed?
[59:28] For the types of materials that can be recycled, or if the safe Francis and Styrofoam have to be available?
[59:38] That's a good question, Councillor Pizzola. They asked me if I felt they needed to be here for the meeting.
[59:43] I didn't feel they did for the rate increase, but I'll ask them that specific question and get a response back to the council on that.
[59:49] So the question is, happy.
[59:51] You know, my recycling, they never turned any back.
[59:56] They take it and throw it.
[59:58] I don't know what they do.
[1:00:13] It's a fair question. There's some, there's some, but there are some plastics that have been added, some of those kinds of containers have been added. So I'll ask them to what the outlook is for the recycling market.
[1:00:23] an updated flyer of what they will take down for cycles to do because it's ever changing.
[1:00:29] Was there a phone with the big one? I think that they said specifically last time that they
[1:00:33] were a lot of horrors don't they, but it's not a big market for it. Yeah, it's too bad.
[1:00:39] I have to say that when we had the big recycle, put everything on your corner, a lot,
[1:00:45] and let them all drag it away. That was a good thing. We've really done a, that was a nice to see
[1:00:50] and a lot of people clean up a lot of stuff, particularly me.
[1:00:55] You do put Cree on it.
[1:00:57] Nobody could call us.
[1:00:59] That's becoming kind of a tradition, it seems like.
[1:01:02] People are wandering the streets, looking for something cool to us.
[1:01:05] Yeah, but we've got to get this time.
[1:01:08] So, 57 cents is pretty minimal.
[1:01:11] Yeah, probably a good aspect of this franchise and this agreement with them.
[1:01:15] Is there a possibility of getting to do that twice a year?
[1:01:19] one in the spring and one in the fall or voluntarily I'm willing to ask but maybe the next
[1:01:38] in three years or something like that I'm much sure that that's a big thing for me although
[1:01:43] I did accumulate a lot of stuff in the last time, so they took it all, so maybe now we're going to have a house on this.
[1:01:51] People are quite a few extra trucks that may get a lot more rigged and pull it down.
[1:01:57] Flatbeds and so on.
[1:02:00] And it gets good, definitely.
[1:02:05] My neighbor's recycling.
[1:02:09] We should have a weekend party doing this party to see people walk up the
[1:02:17] mountains.
[1:02:20] Yeah, I recommend this motion to accept the rate increase proposal.
[1:02:27] Yeah, that's pretty much the same as the increase as proposed by the
[1:02:35] I'll second it.
[1:02:37] Emotion by Lois, second by Carl, that we accept the rating increase submitted by
[1:02:45] put view disposal and recycling.
[1:02:48] All those in favor, said by by saying aye.
[1:02:51] Aye.
[1:02:52] Opposed?
[1:02:55] Next on the agenda.
[1:02:57] Stormwater detention facility.
[1:02:59] And Mike has in this staff report responded to the council question.
[1:03:04] And I was actually surprised when I saw the results of the increase even for the very
[1:03:10] largest stormwater deliverers basically as relatively modest, but if you consider the
[1:03:17] typical monthly utility bill from Fred Meyer or some of these, it's really pretty modest
[1:03:23] compared to their complete utility bill saw.
[1:03:28] Yeah, this is a leftover from the May 16, where we reviewed the bids for the project and the bids came in.
[1:03:37] We were very competitive and we had 12 bidders and the little bid was a below the engineer's estimate.
[1:03:45] And so, we have looked in the financing on this,
[1:03:49] based now that we have the good price
[1:03:51] and he recommends the League of Oregon Cities low cap program,
[1:03:56] which we've used in the past for the Ruben Lane project,
[1:03:59] and which is kind of suited for these smaller issues,
[1:04:02] and seems like it's a better fit for the city.
[1:04:05] Pay a little premium than interest,
[1:04:06] but you would, you would, you would,
[1:04:08] it would, it would cost you a small bond issue.
[1:04:11] And the debt service on that
[1:04:14] that is between 60 and 75 miles a year,
[1:04:16] which is what we targeted at this 25 cent per year,
[1:04:19] you per month rate increase.
[1:04:22] And so we believe we can cover the debt service on this
[1:04:25] with this type of change.
[1:04:26] And then Seth also dug up some data mining here
[1:04:30] and got all the customers to have a monthly
[1:04:33] storm on those greater $100.
[1:04:36] And just like Scott, I was kind of surprised too
[1:04:38] that with the bigger places you expect to be bigger,
[1:04:42] but some of these smaller ones, it's really not that big of a, doesn't seem like that big of a burden.
[1:04:48] And so at this point, if the Council wanted to proceed with this, we would go ahead and
[1:04:54] enter into the agreement with MLHU construction and then come back at some point in the future.
[1:05:02] We probably have to do it sometime, we intend to do it after the new fiscal year.
[1:05:06] We're trying to time these stormwater changes with the rainy season, so you don't want to
[1:05:12] slap everybody with the 25 set of months to increase them, but it's, you know, 95 degrees
[1:05:16] out of August and I have three weeks to help them, so it probably might be correct.
[1:05:21] Shoot for sometime in November, maybe, just seeing how the cash flow works, huh?
[1:05:27] And you think we'll have to change that 25 cents, I see you recommending that you have
[1:05:32] staff return with a rate adjustment, once the low cap has been finalized, so it could
[1:05:36] be a little higher.
[1:05:37] No, I think it'd be 25 cents will come in because they did give us some preliminary
[1:05:42] numbers.
[1:05:43] All right.
[1:05:43] And it looked like the annual debts were speaking to 60 and 70,000 years.
[1:05:46] Right.
[1:05:47] They'll actually let us finance the project over the life of the asset, which was like 50
[1:05:52] years, but we didn't recommend that you pay interest costs that would be huge.
[1:05:55] But because of that, we could do a 20 year bond and if we did, the payment would actually
[1:06:00] should be really very manageable.
[1:06:02] So we may be able to look at a 15 year possibly
[1:06:06] and avoid some interest costs.
[1:06:08] At the 25% E or U.
[1:06:11] And once we do that, will this set the 25 cents
[1:06:15] or is that going to be of your every 25 cents increase?
[1:06:18] I think the stormwater management situation
[1:06:23] will be very complex in 15 years.
[1:06:25] And who knows what will be doing with water
[1:06:27] that falls from the sky.
[1:06:28] But so it would be surprised if we would be in a position I can't predict 15 years in the future, but
[1:06:34] You know, I'll be here.
[1:06:35] You should be the check order.
[1:06:38] Yeah.
[1:06:39] Maybe.
[1:06:40] Hopefully.
[1:06:42] Yeah.
[1:06:45] Hopefully both changes.
[1:06:46] I would go for the meeting here and I'll still be walking here.
[1:06:53] Anyway, you know, certainly we would.
[1:06:56] You know, we didn't, you know, in 15 years' hands, you know.
[1:06:59] But I'm sure we'll see other rate of distance between them.
[1:07:01] I won't be sitting here either to remind you of it.
[1:07:07] But it's the moralized now I'm serious.
[1:07:09] Yeah.
[1:07:10] I feel so much more better.
[1:07:12] I'm gonna say it in a second.
[1:07:14] I use my key.
[1:07:18] Yeah.
[1:07:19] Do you have a question to mine?
[1:07:20] Love it.
[1:07:21] Thanks for doing it, though.
[1:07:23] Yes, thank you, Mike.
[1:07:28] Yeah.
[1:07:29] Okay.
[1:07:29] Oh.
[1:07:30] Okay.
[1:07:32] I'll go get there.
[1:07:36] All right, I'll move to the right staff to sign a contract with the ML help construction for the storm order
[1:07:44] decension project.
[1:07:49] Return with a rate adjustment for the storm order utility when the low cap of one is biolized.
[1:07:58] Second. Motion by Phil. Second by Olden that we authorize staff to sign a contract with ML help construction for the
[1:08:06] The Munning Park Stormwater Detention Project and direct staff return with a rate adjustment
[1:08:11] for the stormwater utility once a low cap loan amount is finalized.
[1:08:15] All those in favor signify Bissé and I?
[1:08:18] Aye.
[1:08:18] Opposed?
[1:08:20] Motion carried.
[1:08:25] Street closure request?
[1:08:27] He's standing.
[1:08:30] That's my alter ego.
[1:08:32] I'm sorry.
[1:08:32] He doesn't shop to these units.
[1:08:35] Well,
[1:08:41] it says here we're there requesting closure of Hoffman from Proctor Boulevard to
[1:08:46] pine your boulevard for August 20, 2011 for a community event in the Centennial Plaza.
[1:08:53] We also very much appreciated your allowing us to do it last year.
[1:08:57] What was it?
[1:08:58] I looked at it and it was the sandy community and food event, something along those lines.
[1:09:05] It is under the they submitted a letter very similarly last year around August 13th. I think it was the event. So it's on the agenda last year. It was a one day event.
[1:09:17] Who is the writer? I don't know.
[1:09:21] Well, maybe they'll give us more information on the next letter next year.
[1:09:26] There's nothing in conflict with that. I take it.
[1:09:29] So, I guess I'd like to know more about what the amendment is.
[1:09:34] That is a little curious.
[1:09:37] I think that...
[1:09:37] Stan should come in time.
[1:09:41] I'll talk to him.
[1:09:44] Sounds like we're recommending you contact him.
[1:09:46] Find out what's going on and then come back.
[1:09:48] I don't think we have a problem with that.
[1:09:50] It would just be nice to know what we're doing.
[1:09:58] Yeah, and no conflict with something other other of equal importance or more.
[1:10:04] Did they have address? Did they leave a contact information besides that?
[1:10:08] No, just a letter. Okay. We can call it through and there's no hurry so we can bring it back.
[1:10:14] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a couple of months. That would be great.
[1:10:24] Yeah, if you want to look it up, I can't remember if there was any comments made at that meeting, but it was August 13th of 2010.
[1:10:32] When are we starting on the transit center?
[1:10:35] I think we're going to get the final ground approval to begin the design until later this year.
[1:10:42] It's a while. It's a ways off.
[1:10:44] You know, I know concerns have been raised, but I think in the design we can address a lot of the concerns.
[1:10:49] I think it was great to provide more event space on the plus itself, and that will take a little bit of work, but I think we can do that.
[1:10:57] And I think we can provide a fair amount of parking still on Hoffman and work with the friends, I think we can do that.
[1:11:03] So it's just a matter of good design.
[1:11:05] Okay, look forward to seeing that.
[1:11:09] We have a consent agenda.
[1:11:16] motion by Jeremy. Second by Lois that we approve the consent agenda. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[1:11:22] Aye. Opposed? Motion carried.
[1:11:26] So you manage your report. Just a couple items. The county just this morning forwarded the hearings officer's decision on the tower for the rural broadband.
[1:11:37] On a two unincorporated county residence, it was 91 days after we met with them and they agreed to have an expedited process to give us the go ahead.
[1:11:48] But they did approve it at the location we had proposed.
[1:11:52] They have a few other requirements, but I don't think they're especially onerous.
[1:11:57] They are requiring us to cooperate with their engineering staff on making sure the access road is sufficient.
[1:12:03] and we're pretty confident that they'll find it is
[1:12:06] since they've had home construction and logging trucks
[1:12:09] and everything else going up that road.
[1:12:12] So anyway, it's good news.
[1:12:14] So we're having a pre-construction meeting
[1:12:16] with the contractor on Thursday
[1:12:17] to get the project started.
[1:12:19] There's a lot of people waiting for it.
[1:12:21] A lot of people are really interested in that.
[1:12:23] Great, that's good news.
[1:12:24] Yeah, yeah.
[1:12:26] A second issue is, and Mary, you'll probably
[1:12:30] bring this up under your comments.
[1:12:31] A few weeks ago, we had a very productive meeting with the Mountain Festival with the Chamber
[1:12:36] on kind of the future of some elements of the Mountain Festival.
[1:12:42] And the Mountain Festival Committee did decide to do something a little different in
[1:12:46] 2012 with the parade.
[1:12:48] It will solve a parade, it will be different, but what we've been talking about is more
[1:12:55] back to the roots of what the Sandy Mountain Festival was 40 years ago.
[1:12:58] Next year will be their 40th anniversary, the 40th anniversary, so the plans are for something really good.
[1:13:07] Anyway, I don't want to see your Thunder mayor, but Councillor Butler and Mayor King, Chamber reps and the Mount.
[1:13:16] It is a Mount Festival committee's decision on these things, as far as the official Mount Festival things.
[1:13:22] but they've got some good plans for 2012 and beyond.
[1:13:29] So, you know, we're going to work pretty closely with them on those things.
[1:13:35] That's all I've got. Oh, one minor issue.
[1:13:38] I think I've sent you by email.
[1:13:40] We had a request for business license for business that, in their description,
[1:13:45] it sounded awful lot like a medical marijuana dispensary
[1:13:51] and the City Attorney's Office worked with the applicant for the business license and wasn't that comfortable
[1:13:58] that what they're proposing was really legal under state law.
[1:14:01] And so we did not issue the business license, but we appreciate the help from the City Attorney's Office reading in the newspaper.
[1:14:07] It seems like this is not a new issue.
[1:14:11] I mean, this is happening statewide when people are kind of testing the law, the prohibits these things.
[1:14:17] and at least it doesn't look like so far,
[1:14:20] we'll be proving ground in the strike.
[1:14:24] Oh, really?
[1:14:25] Oh, hey.
[1:14:28] Anyway, I just wanted to close the loop on that.
[1:14:30] We didn't deny the business license application.
[1:14:35] Council reports.
[1:14:36] Olga?
[1:14:38] Well, not Saturday.
[1:14:41] It was wonderful.
[1:14:42] I think we have an excellent time.
[1:14:44] And it was very successful.
[1:14:46] That whole deal ceremony of the old building,
[1:14:48] of the payroll and the ceremony as well for the plaza, the center might be themselves.
[1:14:55] So, I can tell Rob's, you guys did a good job chasing everybody there.
[1:15:01] I agree.
[1:15:05] Okay. Couple of things. I did go to regional ladder providers to sorting board last week. So thanks for electing me to go to that. It wasn't totally. Actually, it was actually a pretty good meeting to be of understanding what's going on with that group of folks and all the interactions. They have a couple of things that we'll try to do, particularly in terms of how things
[1:15:32] this effect down water energize with different communities and so that will actually be a productive discussion.
[1:15:40] But I did send out an email that I think had a lot of good points in it in terms of how people perceive
[1:15:51] public leaders participate and or listen to individuals within the communities.
[1:15:57] And really, it was a good, interesting discussion by this Adam Davis, who talked about how people perceive leaders not listening to or listening to or being convinced or not being convinced about projects that proposed.
[1:16:14] I think we've had a bunch of those last few years that didn't go across as well as good.
[1:16:19] I really would like to see us kick around those ideas because sometimes you get a little bit of pushback for no particular reason.
[1:16:26] or maybe just we don't understand it, and it's because they don't, the public doesn't understand
[1:16:31] what we're proposing so much. Maybe they disagree with us anyway. But anyway, I thought it was very
[1:16:36] productive for me.
[1:16:40] I don't know if you didn't mention the developers that we talked about this past week.
[1:16:46] I guess I'll bring it up. There it is out of the open area. We did talk with a couple of developers,
[1:16:51] There's potential developers who are thinking about looking at this for acres we have down here in the old city shops, and partnering with us to be able to do some work for some high density housing.
[1:17:07] I have to say that it's a very interesting process. It's got some slices to it, and I assume we're going to be discussing that in the future.
[1:17:18] We've got a review committee and councillors Erberg and actually we asked him to serve on it but a decision will come to the full council as to how we proceed among the two whether we do or not or choose one of them to move ahead and the review committee's meeting on Thursday to come up with this recommendation will bring that to the council.
[1:17:39] interesting stuff. I thought that was well done and nice to see that happening. That was
[1:17:45] something you put out, right? And then I just applied to it. That's great.
[1:17:51] I don't know
[1:17:51] that. I have a small complaint that came through me because actually it was only about three
[1:17:56] doors down. Some speeding is happening. People on blind corners are speeding and I mean,
[1:18:02] pass that along to chief and there are some corner of Kimberley Court and Wolf. There's
[1:18:11] a blind corner there and people do from the stop sign to stop sign to do some speed
[1:18:18] up and when you make that corner is about five or six families that have small kids
[1:18:22] that like to play in the street and I'm not going to point any fingers.
[1:18:32] I was thinking you're going to go everywhere the cars are coming from.
[1:18:35] Well, that's what they happen to be to say.
[1:18:37] Yeah.
[1:18:39] Okay.
[1:18:39] That's it.
[1:18:44] Okay.
[1:18:45] I have a couple things.
[1:18:47] I'll
[1:18:49] kind of be into one here.
[1:18:53] So I can, you know, today about all the grass and the weeds and stuff that's popping up on pioneer
[1:19:00] and a partner with all the rain and then of course the warm weather and stuff.
[1:19:06] And it's the business property owner responsibility to get their parking strip there cleaned up
[1:19:19] from weeds and put down some part of the stuff.
[1:19:23] I'm hoping that Jim Hart is listening and he'll do a story for a little bit of civic pride
[1:19:30] from the business community with the Centennial Celebration coming and everything
[1:19:37] that will step up to the plate and get out and fix along the street there and get the weeds down and stuff.
[1:19:47] So I, unfortunately, I have jury, I have to report for jury duty on Wednesday.
[1:19:52] I was going to mention it at the Chamber lunch, and so maybe Hollis or Kelly, you could
[1:19:58] maybe champion it a little bit to work with business, your neighbors or something.
[1:20:04] Just pick it out, at least clean it up a little bit, because if it's looking a little bratty
[1:20:09] and stuff.
[1:20:13] And then maybe we could do a nice letter that Kevin for code enforcement could give to the owners, just asking them to.
[1:20:23] We have ordinance requiring that.
[1:20:26] Right, but I don't want to go in and have a break.
[1:20:29] Or just a slight note.
[1:20:30] Just a little note with a nice letter or something to work out of or something.
[1:20:35] I did ask Austin Moody to his on vacation this week, but when he comes back from vacation to go and
[1:20:43] Visit with all the property owners up and down the strip in preparation for the centennial. Okay. That would be nice. Yep. Thank you. Yep.
[1:20:51] The other thing I have is the
[1:20:53] League of Oregon City's meeting and then is coming up. Is that September?
[1:21:00] Last weekend is September.
[1:21:02] So while we won't be in the convention hotel and stuff, we should probably get our reservations in for people that are interested in going.
[1:21:14] So I would suggest that we contact Marlin and if you're interested in stuff, I suggest that Carlin and Billy, it would be really good for you guys as a great place to go.
[1:21:29] Okay.
[1:21:30] Being bias-banking new and I haven't done that before,
[1:21:33] I guess I don't know what that's about,
[1:21:34] but I assume I could probably ask a couple of questions
[1:21:36] that are on.
[1:21:37] Yeah, but if it is good for you to go around
[1:21:39] and do like a workshop,
[1:21:42] it'll increase and come back.
[1:21:44] So what you're saying, the old members don't have to go?
[1:21:48] Is that what you say?
[1:21:49] I want the other new members to have the opportunity
[1:21:52] to go, if they still choose,
[1:21:54] or if it goes with anybody having an upcare.
[1:22:01] And I do have to say Kudos also to Carol for the first Saturday market, the success of it.
[1:22:08] It was wonderful.
[1:22:09] If you didn't make it, you've reeling this out on a very nice market, best one ever,
[1:22:17] 25 to 30 vendors and stuff and warm and perfect for them.
[1:22:22] It was perfect.
[1:22:25] It was perfect.
[1:22:27] it was just a premier event. Thanks, Carol. She's in there. Okay, that's all I have.
[1:22:34] All right. Well, I want to say that first Friday was a blast and with her with my family
[1:22:41] and walk around before we headed out of town. And so the weather was obviously helping
[1:22:46] that, but went over to the chamber and saw Paulis and Kelly there. And it was, your guys
[1:23:09] I'm sorry to say I didn't miss the Saturday event and we wanted to go to a
[1:23:14] We tried three times, I was having a day wrong, but the day that it was happening I was out of town, so, but I sat over and looked at them and all there.
[1:23:24] It's a pretty nice asset to our community.
[1:23:32] I know we've been talking about having a meeting with the school district that was scheduled for June 20th or more good.
[1:23:40] That's good.
[1:23:40] changed. That has changed. Yeah, we're looking at probably August 22nd now, which is the Monday. Okay, it's not a council meeting. So they don't have a
[1:23:50] port meeting. Okay, they want to bring up. Before I do, they sent out the flag of the Bulls and Bill spoke to market over at Bulls and Bill for the city
[1:24:00] dinner. I told me that they've wind up someone from
[1:24:03] forecast state to talk about the census on
[1:24:09] that. We're
[1:24:10] very interesting. So the last is
[1:24:15] the data for that. So I
[1:24:18] cringe.
[1:24:21] That's since June. The Wilson billboard. Yes, it's
[1:24:25] June 23rd. Okay, okay, I could remember if we still did
[1:24:28] them in June or not. Okay, that's good. Well, I made a comment
[1:24:30] And tomorrow he goes, oh yeah, it's in our city.
[1:24:32] I think I'm going to get better at the coming days.
[1:24:35] So, can you come to ours?
[1:24:38] They actually had an enemy.
[1:24:39] They were happy to stay in Finland.
[1:24:47] Latvia is coming up and I
[1:24:51] would like to attend that.
[1:24:53] That's all right with the council.
[1:24:54] It was
[1:24:58] very helpful.
[1:24:58] It was a great conference.
[1:25:04] National Organization and Telecommunications Officers
[1:25:07] invited.
[1:25:09] How much were that cost us?
[1:25:11] Less than a new last year.
[1:25:23] Well, that would be cheaper, but it is an event that
[1:25:34] Joe now,
[1:25:41] a lot of invaluable information
[1:25:45] perceived by everyone in
[1:25:50] all the things that we're trying to achieve.
[1:25:56] Can I interject there just as you were since you brought that up?
[1:25:58] Do you know any about the, is it the same thing or the vote about the development?
[1:26:06] Yes, the vote did close a few days ago, the Sandy Net Advisory Board is meeting in a week from,
[1:26:12] or two weeks from Thursday, a week from Thursday. We'll bring the results back to them and then they'll,
[1:26:19] we'll be back to the Council. It looks to me like a frontrunner, but I'll ask the Advisory Board
[1:26:25] look at the results. So you can still you can see the response maps on the
[1:26:32] website. There's a little tin map that shows where the votes came in. Oh check.
[1:26:37] I give kudos to Scott Brown and show you how to program that up. Literally program that up and you know
[1:26:44] and thing and not survey monkey right or something. So as you would enter in your house on
[1:27:03] And then I just want to say that the sidewalk and industrial way there are
[1:27:10] all the trucks used to park.
[1:27:12] Oh.
[1:27:13] Next to the...
[1:27:14] To the bus.
[1:27:15] Yeah.
[1:27:16] What are we calling it?
[1:27:18] The first one?
[1:27:19] The bus bar.
[1:27:20] Right.
[1:27:20] Yeah.
[1:27:21] So I want to say that.
[1:27:22] It's pretty nice.
[1:27:24] Definitely.
[1:27:27] I went to the C4 meeting last Thursday.
[1:27:31] and so the topics on there were that we treat that we're planning for
[1:27:44] agenda
[1:27:45] haven't been set yet so we're going to step the issue
[1:27:52] so there was a debate on
[1:27:54] it and it's a debate but a big topic was we had someone there from the
[1:28:01] National League of Cities helping discuss and answer questions on our annexation
[1:28:07] and incorporation several cities or in and when in or not cities yet the
[1:28:13] areas that want to consider incorporating a couple of ink blackness back
[1:28:24] to the back
[1:28:24] plane ink and how to do that in a big push from cities as well as the representational
[1:28:31] ink out was wanting the county to get out of the city business
[1:28:42] become their own cities
[1:28:43] in the county.
[1:28:46] Oak Grove, if they were to incorporate their entire area and
[1:28:59] then the last thing that C4
[1:29:01] was a discussion about the ambulance and our contract.
[1:29:23] As I mentioned a little bit earlier, this joint meeting
[1:29:26] between the Council and the school board,
[1:29:29] we've tentatively sketched it, rescuated it.
[1:29:31] For August 22nd, it's gonna be a Monday, 6 p.m.
[1:29:35] over at the Museum of Commerce.
[1:29:37] True.
[1:29:39] Yes.
[1:29:40] And in June 8th, Wednesday, Tracy and I
[1:29:45] are going to be going to a working lunch at weatherfers to try and finalize an
[1:29:51] ITA with PLAC NOMA and Metro and keep buffers.
[1:30:03] So, hopefully we can get that ironed out. I'm going to try and get with them again and finalize some final stuff. We're originally going to have one of our, one of the Metro counsellors, surely, credit. We're so going to get her to write a sandmout here. Or at least write a max out and have maybe a trace of your Scott pick her up and bring her out and kind of show her firsthand what we're trying to maintain.
[1:30:29] so that she'd have a better idea than us trying to describe it to her.
[1:30:34] But it looks like she's kind of throwing a monkey wrench in this thing.
[1:30:37] So we're still going to try and get her point across
[1:30:40] and see if we can get this idea signed and finalized.
[1:30:44] I have something that kind of a query here.
[1:30:50] I saw Tracy at lunch time today
[1:30:52] and I've noticed a PGE meter basically in the sidewalk
[1:30:57] walk and I was kind of wondering why that would be in the right
[1:31:02] of way in the sidewalk down between the Thai place and no place on the north side
[1:31:12] of the road right but they kind of hung it right in the sidewalk yeah well
[1:31:22] I don't mean there's any several great people I've had in there, there's a PGS parents
[1:31:27] requirements for that, there's some sort of research you can get in there so it can't
[1:31:32] be people's fulfilment.
[1:31:33] Right.
[1:31:34] You just seem a little odd to me, but okay.
[1:31:37] And I also attended first Friday, I didn't make her with chamber office, sorry.
[1:31:42] I was impressed with the turnout for that considering it was high school graduations ceremony and it
[1:31:51] it was the best weather I think we've had for a first Friday and if haven't been for
[1:31:54] the high school graduation I think the streets would have been crawling with people so it's
[1:31:59] encouraging to me. The Mountain Festival, like Scott said earlier, did meet with the city and
[1:32:07] they were kind of deciding that the parade is going to be changing. We're still going to have
[1:32:12] a parade like Scott said. They're trying to plan a whole lot of new stuff and they haven't got a lot
[1:32:18] a firm details yet but they've got a lot of great ideas and they're still looking for more ideas
[1:32:23] in the ways to keep up the energy and the excitement and make sure everybody still has fun.
[1:32:29] The parade is going to be kind of aimed at children in the future here.
[1:32:34] I'm going to garden through 12th grade kind of thing and I think we're
[1:32:38] tentatively looking at Pleasant Street to possibly for that. So some of the ideas they've got
[1:32:47] Sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun. It's just going to be different and we
[1:32:50] used to it. We won't have to worry about trying to shut down Highway 26.
[1:32:57] If you have any ideas for things for people to do, then please let somebody know who can get that in there.
[1:33:07] We will jointly author organizations will have a survey. It will point to a survey to get ideas for events, things, activities.
[1:33:16] the city website, mountain festival website, and the chamber's website, so I forgot about that.
[1:33:22] Great way to get the ideas out. One other thing now, it looks like the ARCO station is just about
[1:33:28] complete and I've got to say that it looks a lot better, it looks like they've designed it to
[1:33:32] try and contain spills while they're filling the tanks. It's my guess from the way the concrete
[1:33:39] board in there. And with the trees and the plants they've got looks a lot nicer. And looks like the
[1:33:49] police stations come along very nicely. I've heard a few people ask it's not going to be yellow.
[1:33:57] No, I'm sure it's not. Emma's home and I wasn't mistaken.
[1:34:07] That's all I have. Oh, on the dedication, we did dedicate that mural to Linda for her service as mayor and I can tell from her eyes
[1:34:20] and you can a little bit or her demeanor that we definitely called her by surprise. I don't know how it kept the cat in the bag for as long as we did.
[1:34:27] but I thought it really went off great. There was great participation. A lot of people there,
[1:34:33] the mural looked great. We dedicated the Centennial Plaza also. And if you weren't there or
[1:34:42] why you missed something great, there was a lot of fun. The farmer's market really came off good too
[1:34:47] and I hope that continues throughout the summer. And with that, the journey.