[0:00] okay that's okay

[0:20] and

[0:22] um

[0:36] foreign

[1:14] it hurt my eyes but

[1:21] I don't think I have a real strong

[1:23] prescription

[1:27] I think I got some in my desk drawer

[1:31] I think I do

[1:33] huh

[1:34] can you look in my top

[2:06] foreign

[2:21] okay

[2:47] good evening I would like to call the

[2:50] January 9th 2023 meeting to order Clark

[2:54] Jones I believe you would like to read

[2:56] some statements yes

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[4:05] thank you so much

[4:07] at this time we will have an invocation

[4:09] by Pastor John Ward

[4:12] Pastor Ward

[4:17] if you come up to the podium

[4:25] good evening everyone good evening let

[4:28] us bow our heads

[4:30] Heavenly Father

[4:32] as we start this meeting on tonight

[4:36] Lord give us guidance

[4:38] give us wisdom

[4:40] give us support

[4:42] so that we may come together as a whole

[4:46] so that we may do what's right

[4:50] in the eyes of God and for the people of

[4:53] God

[4:54] if there's anything

[4:57] that's not right in the hearts

[5:00] of your elected officials

[5:03] Lord fix it right now in the name of

[5:06] Jesus

[5:07] let them become on one Accord Heavenly

[5:10] Father

[5:11] touch their hearts their minds

[5:14] their bodies and soul father God

[5:17] let them do what's right father God

[5:20] so that we can heal the city of South

[5:22] Bend

[5:23] so that we can draw the people of South

[5:26] Bend closer together

[5:27] in the almighty name of Jesus I pray

[5:32] amen amen amen

[5:35] let us please stand for the Pledge of

[5:37] Allegiance thank you

[5:49] under God

[5:59] Jones would you please call the roll

[6:04] council member Davis

[6:07] council member Lee President

[6:09] councilmember Warner

[6:11] present council member wax President

[6:14] councilmember White president council

[6:17] member Thomas Morgan president council

[6:19] member Hammond president vice president

[6:21] naski president president McBride

[6:24] present nine president thank you

[6:27] at this time I would like to state that

[6:28] if you are here for Bill number 7122

[6:33] under zoning annexation it has been

[6:36] tabled until January 23rd 2023

[6:40] also bill 52-22

[6:43] has been tabled until February 13 2023.

[6:55] at this time we will have a report from

[6:57] the subcommittee on minutes

[7:01] on minutes to the comma Council

[7:07] did the minutes

[7:09] of the September 12 2022 September 26

[7:13] 2022 October 10 2022 October 24 2022

[7:19] November 14 2022 November 28 2022

[7:25] December 12

[7:26] 2022

[7:28] meetings and found them to be correct

[7:31] therefore we recommend the same be

[7:34] approved

[7:37] Point voter I did not approve any of

[7:40] those minutes we haven't had any changes

[7:42] since the last discussion

[7:44] as I said last time what's in those

[7:48] minutes is uh just the list of the bill

[7:51] and the votes there is uh zero substance

[7:56] provided in the minutes

[7:58] if you look at the statutory requirement

[8:01] for the minutes

[8:03] it's section five

[8:05] 14 1.5-4

[8:10] item number three it requires a general

[8:13] substance of all matters proposed

[8:15] discussed and decided

[8:16] and uh in my opinion just putting the

[8:20] votes who voted yes and no does not

[8:23] fulfill that

[8:29] little substance

[8:34] I'm just stating

[8:37] the build titles are the general

[8:39] assessment stating my opinion and these

[8:41] are the council minutes

[8:49] council member Warner has a

[8:52] I'm not going to give a legal opinion on

[8:53] whether or not they suffice but his

[8:56] representation is accurate that the

[8:58] minutes reflect just the

[9:01] uh just the bill itself and the vote

[9:04] doesn't contain substance beyond that

[9:06] and

[9:08] feedback we haven't seen any other

[9:11] versions of those events

[9:13] and I think it's up to the council these

[9:15] are the council minutes and if the

[9:17] council wants to vote to approve them

[9:19] and believes that a vote is uh

[9:22] substantive enough and fulfills that

[9:24] then so be

[9:26] I think the recommendation comes from

[9:28] the subcommittee it does yes so

[9:32] so at this point time I have not

[9:35] approved and do not recommend the

[9:36] minutes

[9:46] um

[9:47] information Specialists we checked with

[9:50] him and he said that this is what we

[9:55] what we are required to provide legally

[9:58] that the bill title is the substance and

[10:02] the date in who was at the meeting

[10:04] because the because the minutes are

[10:07] because the meetings are on video

[10:10] and we can

[10:11] um refer to the video we can bookmark

[10:14] the video

[10:15] and um move forward with there we don't

[10:19] have the resources uh the resources have

[10:23] been taken from us to to

[10:26] to a summarization or verbatim minutes

[10:29] and so this is what we are doing with

[10:32] the resources that we've been allocated

[10:38] so I got a few responses to that Mr

[10:42] Britt is a advisor uh he's not the

[10:48] deciding opinion on these and again

[10:50] these are the council minutes these

[10:52] aren't Mr britz minutes

[10:54] and these are all minutes I will say

[10:56] these are all minutes from when you were

[10:59] fully staffed

[11:01] so with that

[11:06] I think

[11:08] we have a motion on the floor

[11:11] and for Council to for us to have the

[11:14] roll call to accept the minutes and uh I

[11:18] think Clark Jones uh you and I we can

[11:21] have a further discussion I believe we

[11:23] had sat down before to talk about uh the

[11:26] minutes and also probably with speaking

[11:28] with Council and Mr Britt I know we

[11:32] talked about having him come in as well

[11:34] so

[11:35] um I think we need to move and let

[11:38] parliamentarian do you have any input

[11:40] uh president McBride I don't believe

[11:43] there's a motion on the floor from any

[11:46] council member so there is no

[11:49] recommendation from the subcommittee I

[11:51] think that

[11:52] the councilor Warner had rejected if I

[11:55] was correct he just said he does not

[11:58] approve the proper motion would be to

[12:01] approve the minutes there is no motion

[12:04] out there to approve so there's nothing

[12:07] for the council to do at this time okay

[12:09] thank you for the clarification

[12:13] the floor all the promotion or not

[12:16] there's a tour open for motions it comes

[12:20] out of the minutes committee

[12:24] which is pounding subcommittee is the

[12:28] proper entity to make the motion to

[12:30] accept the minutes and there has been no

[12:32] motion by that subcommittee

[12:40] counselor wax and counselor Warner

[12:45] for the minutes you don't need a full

[12:48] committee for the minutes it's always

[12:49] been two for the minute

[12:52] it's one of those big

[12:56] the council one would make a

[12:58] recommendation but both of them agreed

[13:00] to not move forward

[13:04] if one of them made a recommendation we

[13:06] would vote whether to pass or not they

[13:09] both opted to not make that

[13:11] recommendation

[13:15] does that answer your question no it

[13:17] doesn't

[13:19] so forgive me

[13:21] did Mr Black say no Mr Moore says yes

[13:28] what was the tiebreaker

[13:32] that would be the full Council amen

[13:36] correct

[13:37] it's gonna be a tie breaker by the pool

[13:39] Council correct okay that's what I was

[13:42] asking that's what I thought I'd said no

[13:44] I I didn't say that you did I said I

[13:46] made it slow and so I needed a better I

[13:49] need to clarify okay thank you oh and I

[13:52] would like to clarify

[13:53] um we did have assistance with the

[13:55] minutes when we were fully staffed the

[13:58] minutes have always been

[14:01] um because we did verbatim and we did

[14:04] summarizations of the minutes they it

[14:06] has always been extra and staff has had

[14:09] to take the minutes home even though we

[14:11] were fully staffed we did have a staff

[14:14] member that couldn't do the minutes or

[14:17] because of other reasons so we always as

[14:21] in the last year and a half or so we've

[14:23] had assistance with the minutes

[14:27] okay

[14:29] thank you so much

[14:31] for your comments and it's on record

[14:35] so what happens if we do not vote any

[14:39] one they're they're still posted

[14:42] um because according to uh statue we can

[14:46] still post them we just post them as a

[14:48] draft and not approved

[14:50] so they're they're still online the

[14:52] video is still online you can still go

[14:54] you can see uh who attended the meetings

[14:57] you can see who voted on which Bill how

[14:59] they voted whether they attended the

[15:01] meetings virtually or in person the the

[15:04] date of the meeting the time the meeting

[15:06] started the time the minute meeting

[15:08] ended with the minutes all of that is

[15:11] posted already as draft because we can

[15:14] do that and well my question is for Bob

[15:17] and I don't need to belabor this but

[15:19] this I've never seen this before so

[15:22] bear with me

[15:23] so these minutes

[15:25] and so on are never approved then what

[15:28] happens

[15:30] I mean as it relates to the work of the

[15:32] council and even the clerk's office

[15:35] we're in violation of state law at the

[15:38] minute it's not approved and so what is

[15:41] the

[15:43] that the remedy would be up to no the

[15:46] backlash is what I was looking for was

[15:48] the consequence for not approving these

[15:49] uh if someone could sue

[15:53] the council for violation of the open

[15:56] door law

[15:59] so it'll be prudent on our end to get

[16:02] this taken care of as soon as possible

[16:03] because we will be the ones to get sued

[16:05] not the clerk's office

[16:08] is what you just said

[16:10] someone will be sued for violation of

[16:13] the open door law

[16:17] okay like I said this is untried

[16:19] territory for me yeah it is yeah

[16:22] according to the public access counselor

[16:25] minutes are reasonably expected to be

[16:29] turned around within 14 days sure sure I

[16:33] was but I the the acknowledgment of not

[16:36] wanting to go forward with it because

[16:37] something is not done the right way or

[16:40] done the way that we want them done or

[16:42] whatever that is

[16:43] I just want to know what the consequence

[16:45] was as it relates to the state and how

[16:47] we were supposed to we have a mandate we

[16:50] have to do certain things so

[16:52] okay thank you sir

[16:55] thank you with the

[16:59] I'm sorry

[17:01] I think this can be fixed with just uh

[17:05] adding a few sentences of just the

[17:07] general substance

[17:09] during the this bill was raised and the

[17:12] topic of affordable housing was asked

[17:15] and answered and this was asked and

[17:17] answered and it could be fixed with just

[17:19] some general substance I look I I'm not

[17:22] going down those streets I just wanted

[17:24] to know what was the parameters and how

[17:26] this works the law and who is the one

[17:29] that would suffer the consequence it

[17:31] sounds like the council would and so I

[17:34] my my idea was be to get this taken care

[17:37] of before we get sued

[17:40] thank you I will move on

[17:43] um there are no special business there

[17:46] are no reports from the city at this

[17:48] time

[17:49] I would now entertain a motion to

[17:51] resolve to the committee of the whole

[17:53] second it has been moved in second Clark

[17:56] Jones will roll please

[17:58] council member Davis

[18:00] aye council member Lee

[18:02] aye council member Warner

[18:04] aye council member wax council member

[18:07] White

[18:07] council member Thomas Morgan

[18:10] aye councilmember Hammond I vice

[18:12] president naskowski aye president

[18:14] McBride aye nine eyes

[18:18] foreign

[18:29] we have to read this procedure as stated

[18:33] in section 2 11.

[18:37] and it says the clerk shall read each

[18:40] title

[18:43] by each bill by title only

[18:46] the chairperson of the council standing

[18:48] committee to which the bill was sent

[18:50] shall give a report on the

[18:52] recommendations from the committee a

[18:54] formal presentation of the bill should

[18:56] be made

[18:57] which is is not subject to time

[19:00] limitation common council members shall

[19:03] have the right to ask two preliminary

[19:04] questions to the presenters immediately

[19:06] following the close of the formal

[19:08] presentation on the bill

[19:10] members of the public supporting the

[19:12] bill shall have the opportunity to

[19:13] address the council

[19:15] each member of the public shall be

[19:17] required to State his name or her name

[19:20] and residential address or in the case

[19:23] of a proposal made on behalf of an

[19:25] entity other than a natural person or on

[19:28] behalf of a group of individuals that

[19:30] person and or their agent shall State

[19:33] his or her name and business address for

[19:36] record for record prior to making

[19:38] remarks in support of the bill each

[19:41] member of the public speaking in favor

[19:43] of a bill should be limited to five

[19:44] minutes

[19:46] if the formal presentation against the

[19:48] bill under consideration

[19:51] the person or agent speaking on behalf

[19:53] of such a remonstrate group shall not be

[19:57] subject to time limitation

[19:59] therefore each member of the public

[20:01] speaking in opposition shall be limited

[20:03] to five minutes for his or her

[20:05] presentation each member of the public

[20:07] shall be required to State his or her

[20:09] name or residential address or in the

[20:11] case of The Proposal

[20:13] maybe half of an entity or other than a

[20:16] natural person or on behalf of a group

[20:19] of individuals that person or that or

[20:22] their agent shall State his or her name

[20:24] and business address for record prior to

[20:26] making remarks in opposition of the bill

[20:27] each member of the public shell and

[20:30] opposition of the bill shall be limited

[20:32] to five minutes

[20:34] the remonstrance period following any

[20:38] formal presentation against the bill

[20:40] under consideration shall not exceed the

[20:42] time used by members of the public who

[20:44] spoke in favor of the bill or shall be

[20:46] limited to 30 minutes whichever is

[20:48] greater

[20:49] there shall be an automatic five-minute

[20:51] rebuttal period for the person or the

[20:53] person who made the formal presentation

[20:55] on the bill under consideration

[20:57] after which the public portion of the

[20:59] hearing is closed

[21:01] following the public portion then

[21:02] Council portion then takes place where

[21:04] members of the Council debate ask

[21:07] questions make motions on the bill under

[21:10] consideration each bill must have a

[21:12] motion addressed in the disposition of

[21:14] the bill

[21:15] as it is then sent to the full Council

[21:17] for final action

[21:18] in compliance with the governor's

[21:20] executive orders the South and common

[21:22] Council will be legally held by way of

[21:25] virtual meeting using Microsoft teams at

[21:27] the committee of the whole notes how

[21:30] residents can participate for the public

[21:32] portion as follows

[21:34] a public can participate in the meeting

[21:36] by following the directions in the chat

[21:40] section in the Microsoft teams app at

[21:42] the link provided by the city clerk any

[21:45] member of the public wishing to speak in

[21:46] favor or opposition to the bill must

[21:48] indicate their desire prior to the close

[21:50] of the public Hearing in order to speak

[21:53] in favor against the bill you will need

[21:55] to state your name

[21:57] and address as it also as is also

[22:01] required to speak at an in-person

[22:02] meeting the city clerk will inform the

[22:04] chair of the committee of the whole in

[22:07] which order to proceed

[22:09] to address each person in order with a

[22:12] time limit of five minutes

[22:18] give me a whole is now in session this

[22:21] is the portion of the council's meetings

[22:22] where bills are given a second reading

[22:24] and public hearing I wish to share with

[22:26] you that bills that will be given a

[22:27] second reading and public hearing have

[22:29] been given a first reading and set for a

[22:32] committee meeting and public hearing

[22:33] prior to this evening's meeting

[22:35] in addition you will hear from the

[22:37] chairperson of the committee where the

[22:38] bill was discussed and the results of

[22:40] their discussion if the proposed

[22:42] ordinance is a zoning ordinance a report

[22:44] from a staff member will be given in all

[22:47] other situations the formal presentation

[22:49] on the proposed ordinance will

[22:51] immediately follow the committee report

[22:52] the formal presentation shall be on time

[22:58] on our agenda we had

[23:00] um the bill 52-22

[23:03] it has been tabled

[23:06] on our agenda

[23:08] bill 69-22

[23:12] I'm sorry Bill 52 22 has continued to

[23:16] February 13th oh I'm sorry

[23:20] table

[23:21] to February 13th

[23:24] as requested by the petitioner

[23:28] okay

[23:30] now Bill 69-22 we've already had the

[23:34] public input

[23:36] and so now the only thing is for Council

[23:39] uh discussion and so

[23:42] um presenters will now um give their

[23:48] name and address

[23:55] yeah

[23:57] okay Larry Jones would you please re

[24:00] give Bill

[24:02] 69-22 a second reading 69-22

[24:08] 6922 public hearing on an ordinance of

[24:11] the common Council of the city of South

[24:13] Bend Indiana approving a petition of The

[24:15] Advisory Board of zoning appeals for the

[24:17] property located at 1405 Portage Avenue

[24:21] councilman District number one in the

[24:23] city of South bin Indiana

[24:27] all right chair point of order

[24:30] um

[24:31] this is not scheduled for public hearing

[24:34] as

[24:35] stated in the agenda the prior agendas

[24:40] that had been sent out to the Republican

[24:44] to council indicated that this was only

[24:47] for third reading not for public hearing

[24:50] so there's nothing improper with letting

[24:53] them make their presentation and then

[24:57] the the

[24:59] Committee of the whole will make its

[25:01] recommendation to the

[25:03] full Council after the third reading

[25:07] okay

[25:08] my only point is that there is no public

[25:10] hearing as stated

[25:13] all right

[25:15] and that's why I was disclosing that

[25:17] it's only the discussion but yeah all

[25:20] right Elizabeth

[25:21] Angela Smith The Zone administrator with

[25:24] the office is located in the 14th floor

[25:25] of the building I'm only here to answer

[25:27] any questions you may have unless you

[25:28] want to refresher on what the bill

[25:30] itself is

[25:33] well

[25:37] a refresher sorry

[25:39] the property is the Portage the corner

[25:42] of Portage Elwood they're seeking a

[25:44] special exception its own Neighborhood

[25:46] Center seeking a special exception for

[25:50] um a vape smoke and tobacco shop in the

[25:54] NC neighborhood center District this

[25:56] came to you from the board of zoning

[25:58] appeals of the favorable recommendation

[25:59] we have had some work done by the uh

[26:04] facade grant program which they're

[26:07] looking to do improvements and so the

[26:09] updated site plan I believe was

[26:10] circulated to council as well as some

[26:14] proposed elevations

[26:16] other than that this can do from the

[26:19] poor zoning appeals with a favorable

[26:20] recommendation I'd be happy to answer

[26:21] any questions

[26:24] the petitioner is here if you have any

[26:25] questions of the petitioner as well

[26:35] will be given up to six afternoon

[26:39] discussion or is that is that proper Bob

[26:42] yes okay my name is Praveen gulati and

[26:46] I'm from Peak investment and asset

[26:48] management

[26:49] so

[26:50] um it's honorable common Council City

[26:55] Clerk and Zoning staff I like to

[26:58] reiterate that we respect the you know

[27:02] process and the vote but I like to say

[27:06] few things here

[27:08] that the intended use is for over 21

[27:13] years of age group people

[27:15] and the use is legal in the City of

[27:19] South Bend and the state of Indiana

[27:22] and the building is building is in a

[27:25] shape

[27:26] that it is in the three sections

[27:30] um you know and those are having why you

[27:33] know weight bearing wall unless you tear

[27:37] this building down and try to have

[27:40] something else there

[27:42] uh you cannot make use of this building

[27:45] so we have committed to the Improvement

[27:49] plan it is all there

[27:51] and there are restrained

[27:54] from the

[27:55] previous owners of the buildings

[27:59] it was a Speedway Corporation they used

[28:02] to have a gas station and a you know a

[28:06] little car repair shop there

[28:09] so in order to

[28:12] restain the competition they put a lease

[28:16] deed restriction that it cannot be used

[28:19] for fuel station it cannot be a grocery

[28:22] store it cannot be a you know like a

[28:26] Dairy Store

[28:28] so considering the building in question

[28:31] right there

[28:32] uh you know we we see only two uses one

[28:37] is that we have a you know like a quick

[28:40] service restaurant or a web shop

[28:43] so in order to have a quick service

[28:45] restaurant I talked to the zoning staff

[28:47] they said this place is a neighborhood

[28:51] District you know for pedestrian it

[28:53] cannot be authorized for a drive-through

[28:58] you know it is under your cities manual

[29:00] or whatever the laws and the rules you

[29:03] have

[29:04] and then uh other than that this is the

[29:08] only use we have

[29:09] and this place is closed for 10 years we

[29:13] want to open it I have the operators

[29:15] here they have three three different uh

[29:19] you know outfits in Indiana very

[29:22] successful operation

[29:24] so under these circumstances you know

[29:27] either

[29:28] um you know as councilman Lee said last

[29:31] time that we have a better use but I

[29:34] want to know what is that battle usage

[29:36] you know and 97 98 of the franchises are

[29:41] saying that you know you have to have a

[29:43] drive through in order to do a quick

[29:46] service restaurant

[29:48] and we have surveyed it we have done our

[29:52] due diligence and that is the only in in

[29:55] the shape and manner this building is

[29:57] and it is closed for several years that

[30:00] is the only use we can do so rest is up

[30:03] to the council to decide I I mean this

[30:06] is what I have to say thank you thank

[30:08] you

[30:08] council members if you have any question

[30:10] you can ask

[30:12] you council members do you have any any

[30:14] statements

[30:16] like I said we've already done the

[30:18] public portion we've already had those

[30:19] who was against it we always had those

[30:21] we already had that discussion part now

[30:24] it's it's we didn't vote on it because

[30:27] we wanted to give it more time and and

[30:30] and and

[30:32] see if we can come up with a better use

[30:34] for

[30:35] the the facility

[30:38] um and the statute for a special

[30:41] exemption is

[30:43] for alcohol and tobacco and the reason

[30:47] why they allow that to be there is so

[30:49] that the community does have an

[30:51] opportunity or the council has the

[30:53] opportunity to

[30:54] say what goes into a neighborhood and

[30:57] one of the things that we have talked to

[30:59] neighbors and people have spoke out

[31:02] against it it was that the neighbors are

[31:04] looking for something that's going to

[31:05] help lift the neighborhood up and they

[31:08] don't feel that a vape shop is is is

[31:11] what would be good for the neighborhood

[31:13] and what it attracts so

[31:16] I like to hear any of the council

[31:18] members that would like to make a

[31:20] statement

[31:23] councilman chair I was just are you open

[31:26] to a question yes I uh the question I

[31:30] want to ask when we

[31:33] tabled this last time I think the

[31:35] request was to the therapy conversations

[31:38] with the neighbors has that happened and

[31:41] can you report on that we've talked to

[31:46] um various people from different parts

[31:48] of the first district especially in that

[31:51] area

[31:52] and many people

[31:54] would like to see

[31:56] something that's going to lift the

[31:58] community up something that's going to

[32:00] not bring it down not bring another

[32:04] negative element to the community and so

[32:07] as I've talked to different people

[32:09] that's been what what they've said to me

[32:12] and we even had people that spoke out

[32:14] against it in in the council meeting yes

[32:17] Angela can you address the restrictions

[32:20] that were mentioned

[32:23] in relation to the drive-through in

[32:26] relation to that property as a whole

[32:28] like what can it be so there are some

[32:31] deed restrictions which go outside of

[32:34] the zoning enforcement so those wouldn't

[32:36] be for us to enforce in terms of a

[32:40] drive-through drive through would also

[32:41] be a special exception so it would come

[32:43] in front of the council if there was

[32:44] going to be a drive-through restaurant

[32:45] not sure the site's really big enough

[32:47] for that but it could be a wider range

[32:51] of retail uses carryout restaurant

[32:54] it could be a dine-in restaurant it

[32:57] could be

[32:59] of any other retail other than a liquor

[33:02] store or tobacco or vape

[33:05] without a special exception

[33:08] okay thank you

[33:10] the other question I had is there has

[33:13] been a

[33:16] a gentleman with a smoker and kind of a

[33:21] portable restaurant kind of food

[33:24] and

[33:25] um

[33:27] are there people that are interested in

[33:30] utilizing that property for other

[33:32] purposes that

[33:34] that information could be shared or

[33:38] I think that there we we've talked the

[33:41] city and there may be some ways to

[33:43] incentivize something that's going to

[33:45] lift the neighborhood up

[33:47] um there are people who may be

[33:49] interested in pursuing an opportunity

[33:52] there uh again that that comes down to

[33:55] the finances and all of that but as far

[33:58] as what what transformation Ministries

[34:00] down the street with uh the issues that

[34:04] we have with the liquor stores and the

[34:06] gas stations and all of that stuff the

[34:09] residents didn't feel like they wanted

[34:12] something that was going to continue to

[34:13] compound the issue

[34:22] any other questions

[34:24] let's have one for clarification because

[34:26] I thought I heard two different things

[34:28] so the special exemption is for liquor

[34:31] stores or

[34:34] tobacco or is it not for this type of

[34:37] establishment that's not what they're

[34:38] requesting tonight that's the type of

[34:40] retail like they're only requesting a

[34:42] special exception for smoke vape and

[34:44] tobacco they're not asking for liquor

[34:47] store tonight but they have to have the

[34:49] special exemption in order to have that

[34:51] type of business there if they wanted to

[34:53] yes I believe that's probably excluded

[34:57] under their deed restrictions if I

[34:58] recall also so

[35:03] this would only this but as I mentioned

[35:06] on the other special exceptions special

[35:07] exceptions are a little bit different

[35:08] than zoning and that it would only allow

[35:11] the specific use to which the council

[35:13] was reviewing and would be subject to

[35:15] what was presented

[35:23] if there's no other discussion yes yes

[35:26] sure

[35:27] um I I you left here last time because I

[35:31] remember I remember voting against it

[35:33] not because of the business because of

[35:36] what you guys were planning to do

[35:38] your conversation with the business

[35:40] owner because I left with the impression

[35:43] on the record that you were going to

[35:45] speak with a business owner

[35:47] about alternative uses perhaps

[35:51] you know a certain time of selling of

[35:54] the tobacco products

[35:55] I I don't know what was that

[35:57] conversation like we did not we did not

[36:00] say that we would meet with the business

[36:03] owners about certain times of no no I

[36:06] didn't say that I said

[36:08] for example what I'm asking you what was

[36:10] your conversation with the business

[36:11] owner when we when we met with the

[36:14] business owner we did talk to him about

[36:16] other opportunities of another type of

[36:19] business that would be something that

[36:21] could lift up the neighborhood

[36:23] and we did have that discussion

[36:26] and the result of the discussion was

[36:29] it will be determined on the things that

[36:31] the city would be willing to to help

[36:34] with and um again that was to see if

[36:38] there was interested because there is a

[36:40] person who's seller uh barbecue there in

[36:44] the in the uh

[36:46] the business owner sir I'm asking what

[36:48] is a conversation with your business

[36:50] owner what was it like what happened

[36:52] like to put a vape shop there I'm sorry

[36:55] his conversation was he would like to

[36:57] put the bait shop there and he wasn't

[36:59] willing to change based upon what you

[37:03] think it should be and it's still at the

[37:06] end of the day was I I was I could have

[37:09] a sign lease and have a vape shop here

[37:11] and we could could start uh

[37:14] getting getting Vapes out there

[37:17] so I would like to

[37:20] um entertain emotions you can't do that

[37:22] I'm not done talking okay first of all

[37:25] this today but you can't do that you

[37:27] open the floor for people to ask

[37:28] questions and then you're cutting me off

[37:30] you you were saying I wasn't done I was

[37:32] waiting for you to complete your your

[37:33] response

[37:37] are you finished

[37:38] Mr Davis yes go ahead say what you got

[37:41] to say oh I have a lot to say so when

[37:45] you had your conversation in the

[37:47] conversation not go the direction that

[37:49] you desire to go

[37:51] so you're at a stalemate with the

[37:53] business owner about whether the use of

[37:55] this property should be a vase shop or

[37:57] not

[37:58] or did the conversation end

[38:02] um amicably as the conversation was I

[38:05] would like to put a vape shop in there I

[38:07] said that before what what um I would

[38:11] love for us to be able to work together

[38:13] to find something to put in that area

[38:15] that's going to help lift the

[38:16] neighborhood up and so with the

[38:18] residents

[38:20] oh I'm not stepping on anything I was

[38:22] just wondering if the conversation was

[38:24] about some conversation I'm sorry I said

[38:27] that was the conversation okay so

[38:30] um

[38:31] you keep saying something we need

[38:33] something there that's uplifting to the

[38:35] neighborhood what is something not can

[38:37] you define that for me please

[38:39] I would say

[38:42] because there is someone already selling

[38:44] barbecue there is there could be a

[38:46] Subway it could be a Little Caesars it

[38:48] could be something that that's going to

[38:50] be positive and not something that's

[38:52] going to continue to draw negative uh

[38:56] negative crowd to that area so again

[39:00] we're very much interested in having a

[39:02] conversation seeing what what we could

[39:04] do as as a city working together and my

[39:07] statement to the owner was this is an

[39:11] opportunity that we could do something

[39:12] that's going to lift the community up

[39:14] would you be willing to to to

[39:18] partner with the city

[39:20] and we find something that's a better

[39:23] fit than a vape shop

[39:26] you know

[39:28] um when you

[39:30] Define something or whatever that is

[39:34] the market now I talked about this

[39:36] before has to suggest

[39:39] the things that you are defining as

[39:42] something

[39:43] this gentleman is a investor

[39:46] you cannot redefine what the elements

[39:50] are already saying in that particular

[39:52] area

[39:54] if the area is low income

[39:58] chances of you bringing in a Taj Mahal

[40:01] or is next to zero it's just how the

[40:04] market goes it performs

[40:07] with the demographic

[40:09] and the value of the particular area

[40:11] there's nothing you can do to change

[40:14] that so are you saying because this is a

[40:17] African-American area or a place that

[40:20] has been

[40:22] that has had some some downturn that the

[40:25] only we should accept just anything in

[40:28] our neighborhood no sir what I am saying

[40:30] to you

[40:31] is that in order to get that area the

[40:35] way that you desire it to be the way you

[40:37] Vision it it should be

[40:39] there's a number of things that are

[40:40] going against it one is the school

[40:42] that'll shut down down the street which

[40:44] is called LaSalle the other issue that

[40:47] you have in that area is called traffic

[40:49] earlier there was a presentation from

[40:52] property vacation and another committee

[40:55] a property vacation and they talked

[40:57] about the traffic riding it up and down

[41:00] the alleyway that same logic has to be

[41:04] applied to when you're talking about

[41:05] Lincolnway you're talking about Western

[41:06] you're talking about Portage and other

[41:08] areas that are considered corridors so

[41:10] in order for you to realize

[41:13] uh new development at a higher level

[41:16] your traffic count has to be

[41:18] High okay it has nothing to do with

[41:20] being black or being white or any ethnic

[41:22] group it has everything to do with what

[41:25] the the the outliers economic outliers

[41:28] are saying to you your economic outliers

[41:31] are not saying that this area is primed

[41:34] for high development

[41:36] so in order for you to get to the high

[41:38] development you can't tell a small

[41:40] business investors no because they are

[41:43] going to bring traffic to that area

[41:45] which will increase

[41:47] the dollar amount for that area

[41:49] so no it has nothing to do with race it

[41:53] has everything to do with what the

[41:54] market and how the market performs in

[41:56] certain areas for instance

[41:59] when Mishawaka thought it was a great

[42:01] idea to open their streets up you

[42:03] started seeing a lot more volume of

[42:06] traffic you start to see it a lot more

[42:08] investment into the area you start to

[42:10] see tax-based expansion when you saw the

[42:13] city of South Bend take their Corridor

[42:15] streets and decrease the width of them

[42:18] you started seeing businesses move out

[42:20] it has nothing to do with race it has

[42:23] everything to do with with the

[42:25] atmosphere the economic outliers say to

[42:28] you so no it's not a racial conversation

[42:30] sir it's a fact conversation so at what

[42:33] point do we not ask our community to

[42:36] tell us what they want in the

[42:38] neighborhood and there's certain things

[42:39] that they I think we need to be more

[42:40] realistic so when we go about our

[42:43] Council business okay when we go about

[42:45] our Council business it is up to the

[42:47] representative to demand better from the

[42:51] plane Department based upon those areas

[42:53] and then when we talk about the

[42:56] expansion of Tif districts and how money

[42:58] is actually being invested in those

[43:00] areas as it relates to infrastructure we

[43:02] have to ride those issues to ensure

[43:05] successful investment in those areas

[43:08] that's how you get it done okay for more

[43:10] race today but the other way to get it

[43:13] done is insurance we have to move on I'm

[43:16] trying to figure this out

[43:18] give me 10 more seconds we're good give

[43:20] me 10 more seconds over five minutes so

[43:24] we're gonna we're gonna move

[43:25] I will now entertain a motion regarding

[43:27] this bill

[43:29] move for favorable recommendation

[43:35] thank you

[43:38] I'll second that

[43:40] all right it's been a motion and second

[43:43] Clark Jones please call the world

[43:45] council member Lee next

[43:48] council member Warner

[43:51] nay

[43:52] councilmember wax

[43:54] council member Thomas Morgan

[44:01] councilmember Hammond

[44:03] I

[44:05] vice president nay

[44:09] councilmember Davis

[44:11] aye

[44:12] president McBride

[44:49] can you call the roll again for me

[44:51] please yes

[44:52] council member Lee next

[44:55] council member Warner

[44:58] council member wax

[45:00] aye councilmember white nay

[45:04] council member Thomas Morgan

[45:06] council member Hammond aye

[45:09] vice president niskowski nay

[45:12] council member Davis

[45:14] aye

[45:15] president McBride

[45:17] aye

[45:19] we have four eyes in five days

[45:23] all right bill 69-22 will

[45:27] will be sent to the full council with

[45:29] the

[45:32] chair that motion fell so there needs to

[45:36] be another motion for either and no

[45:39] recommendation or an unfavorable

[45:43] chair can I add a comment yes I just

[45:46] want to there are a couple things that

[45:48] I'd like to say here so I drive this

[45:51] Corridor

[45:54] um frequently and

[45:57] um it's it's a challenged area we know

[46:00] that

[46:02] um there's an alcohol store there's a

[46:04] liquor store there are two convenience

[46:07] stores I'm not sure about the second one

[46:11] but at least one of those has

[46:13] does have tobacco sales

[46:17] there are

[46:19] to gas and Automotive related

[46:23] businesses in that area

[46:27] and so

[46:29] what

[46:31] um

[46:32] what what is challenging to me is the

[46:36] kinds of businesses that are currently

[46:39] there

[46:40] and how they serve this

[46:43] um

[46:46] lower socioeconomic area in our in our

[46:50] city

[46:51] what we know about research on this is

[46:55] that tobacco retail shops and Specialty

[46:58] vapor shops are disproportionately

[47:01] present in neighborhoods where social

[47:04] socially disadvantaged Youth and

[47:07] families live

[47:08] so

[47:10] um

[47:11] this is not just a special exception

[47:14] request

[47:15] in my opinion but it's a it's also a

[47:18] policy issue

[47:20] and it's related to Health Equity and

[47:22] environmental justice

[47:24] and it's about seeking ways to limit

[47:28] the density of tobacco-related retail

[47:31] and Vapor

[47:33] Shop outlets in lower socioeconomic

[47:38] status neighborhoods

[47:41] um and so for those reasons I have a

[47:43] real

[47:46] problem with this development in this

[47:48] part in this part of the city

[47:51] I will uh entertain another motion

[47:54] I'd like to move that we send Bill

[47:57] 69-22 to the full Council

[48:01] with an unfavorable recommendation

[48:08] second there's been a motion in the

[48:11] second Claire Jones please call the roll

[48:13] council member Warner

[48:15] aye councilmember wax

[48:17] okay

[48:19] councilmember white

[48:21] aye

[48:22] council member Thomas Morgan

[48:24] aye

[48:25] councilmember Hammond

[48:33] aye

[48:35] vice president

[48:37] aye

[48:38] council member Davis nog

[48:42] council member Lee

[48:44] aye

[48:45] president McBride

[48:47] aye seven eyes

[48:48] okay this will be sent to the full

[48:51] council with unfavorable recommendation

[48:59] bill 71-22 has been tabled until

[49:04] continued I'm sorry I'm sorry until

[49:07] January the 23rd

[49:09] and so Clark Jones would you please give

[49:12] Bill 70

[49:15] 74-22 a second reading

[49:20] 74-22 public hearing on an ordinance of

[49:24] the common Council of the city of South

[49:25] Bend Indiana amending the zoning

[49:28] ordinance for property located at 505

[49:30] Ireland Road 4412 fellow street and 4422

[49:35] fellow street councilmanning District

[49:37] number five in the city of South Bend

[49:39] Indiana

[49:44] all right is there a committee report

[49:48] yes chair bill number is 7422 came

[49:52] before zoning and annexation this

[49:54] afternoon and comes to the community as

[49:57] a whole with a favorable recommendation

[49:59] is the petitioner president asked did

[50:01] you state your name and address and

[50:02] share with us key points regarding the

[50:04] bill that's before us Angela Smith Sonia

[50:06] Mr chair with city of South Bend offices

[50:08] located in the 14th floor of this

[50:09] building the property in question is 505

[50:12] Ireland 4412 and 4422 that's three

[50:15] Parcels as noted by the three addresses

[50:18] and it is

[50:22] and it's at the corner of fellows in

[50:25] Ireland see if my presentation will keep

[50:27] going we lost connection here

[50:32] the city wants to keep kicking me off of

[50:34] Wi-Fi sorry

[50:35] [Laughter]

[50:41] the property owner has an existing

[50:44] business and building located on the

[50:46] southern two lots has acquired the the

[50:49] northernmost quite some time ago and is

[50:53] looking to do an expansion of what they

[50:55] have and replicating the type of use

[50:58] that they have the offices this is

[51:00] slightly different than what you

[51:01] normally see from us generally when we

[51:03] have a commercial expansion we're really

[51:05] concerned about how it might impact our

[51:07] surrounding Neighbors in this case

[51:09] as we showed earlier today there is a

[51:13] city retention area just north of the

[51:15] site and then the city public golf

[51:18] course to the east which really prevent

[51:20] this commercial from expanding much

[51:23] Beyond its current footprint

[51:26] uh you can see here that it's in a

[51:29] commercially a Suburban kind of

[51:31] commercial area the property on the west

[51:34] extends commercial to about the same

[51:36] location and then you have some

[51:38] commercial properties across the street

[51:40] uh the existing building is kind of more

[51:43] residential in character which is part

[51:45] of the written commitment request is for

[51:48] a hipped or gabled roof to kind of

[51:50] replicate this building and make sure we

[51:51] get something appropriate as a

[51:53] transition to the neighborhood

[51:55] the existing property occupies the area

[51:58] here in the Red outlet outline and the

[52:01] expansion would be kind of a duplication

[52:03] of that to the north the sea commercial

[52:06] will allow them to do that in the

[52:08] configuration that's consistent with

[52:10] what they had previously this comes to

[52:13] you from the plan commission with a

[52:14] favorable recommendation subject to the

[52:16] following rent commitments one all

[52:18] buildings shall have a hipster gabled

[52:20] roof and two drive-through facilities

[52:22] shall be not be permitted be happy to

[52:25] answer questions the presenter or the

[52:27] petitioner is here as well

[52:29] petitioner would you like to

[52:32] say anything

[52:37] good evening members of the council

[52:40] my name is Mark mache I live at 19110

[52:42] Farmington Lane on the south side of

[52:45] South Bend

[52:46] we built the original building in 2006

[52:49] with myself and two business partners

[52:51] this is currently the only real estate

[52:54] that we own commercially and have owned

[52:57] the residential lots since 2015 when we

[53:00] bought it from Ray Unruh

[53:04] we would like to continue our investment

[53:06] in the South Side uh adding we feel like

[53:08] there needs more opportunity for

[53:10] Professional Services in this type of

[53:11] building

[53:12] is uh perfect for that type of

[53:16] of opportunity

[53:18] the adjacency to the golf course makes

[53:20] it an attractive professional location

[53:23] we did spend time walking the

[53:25] neighborhood and speaking to the the

[53:28] neighbors we're able to speak with four

[53:30] of the seven houses just to the north

[53:32] and all of which had no objections

[53:36] several made comments on the

[53:38] architecture and the quality of the

[53:41] existing building and our commitment to

[53:43] replicate that in a second building the

[53:46] only negative was a mention of traffic

[53:48] and we're going to keep the entrance

[53:50] where it is so no traffic would would

[53:53] progress down fellows any further than

[53:55] it already does to enter the current

[53:56] building

[53:59] all right thank you council members do

[54:02] you have any questions for the petition

[54:03] at all

[54:08] at this time we'll go to the public

[54:10] hearing portion Clark Jones is there

[54:12] anyone from the public wishing to speak

[54:13] in favor of Bill 74-22

[54:23] favor of this bill

[54:26] is there anyone present wishing to speak

[54:29] in opposition

[54:33] there's no one from the virtual public

[54:35] that is expressing interest to speak in

[54:37] opposition of this bill at this point

[54:40] the public hearing on bill 74-22 is now

[54:42] closed council members would you like to

[54:45] make any statements

[54:46] yes absolutely but Eli is his district

[54:49] so he can go first get his hand up

[54:52] sorry that's all right thank you I just

[54:55] wanted to thank the petitioner for his

[54:57] uh previous investment in South Side

[55:00] South Bend generally

[55:02] a south side is special to me obviously

[55:05] and his continued commitment to invest I

[55:08] just want to wish you success in your

[55:10] investment

[55:11] thank you

[55:13] Mr Davis I I Echo it the same city

[55:16] Minister he just um

[55:18] he just conveyed to you but I wanted to

[55:21] go a little bit deeper

[55:23] um several years ago

[55:25] there was a plan to take out the entire

[55:27] Corner houses turn into some type of

[55:31] like highway system I worked really hard

[55:33] with the folks on fellow street to stop

[55:36] that plan as a matter of fact we not

[55:38] only stopped the plan but we were able

[55:40] to get curbs and sidewalks in the area

[55:42] to make more walkable which obviously

[55:45] helps what you're doing right now as it

[55:48] relates to what we just finished talking

[55:50] about with the gentleman prior to this

[55:52] particular bill it is a part of

[55:54] development how development works you

[55:56] couldn't do what you're doing right now

[55:58] without Highway going through with all

[56:01] those houses missing so in order to have

[56:03] to say that neighborhood that could have

[56:06] not existed

[56:07] it's it's it's a very easy understanding

[56:10] of how this works and so again I

[56:12] appreciate your investment to the city

[56:14] of South Bend look forward to more

[56:16] actually

[56:18] anyone else

[56:24] I will now entertain a motion regarding

[56:27] bill 74-22

[56:32] 74-22 be sent to the cons full council

[56:36] with the favorable recommendations

[56:37] second

[56:39] all right there's a bit of motion in the

[56:40] second Clark Jones please call the world

[56:42] council member wax

[56:44] aye

[56:45] White

[56:50] I vice president

[56:53] aye council member Davis

[56:55] aye council member Lee

[56:57] aye council member Warner aye president

[56:59] McBride

[57:01] aye nine eyes all right

[57:03] bill 74-22 will be sent to the full

[57:06] council with the favorable

[57:07] recommendation

[57:08] uh

[57:10] Clark Jones would you please give Bill

[57:12] 79-22 a second reading

[57:16] 89 22 public

[57:21] proving competition of The Advisory

[57:23] Board of zoning appeals for property

[57:25] located at 7468 and 7686 Gordon Parkway

[57:31] councilmanic District number one in the

[57:33] city of South Bend Indiana

[57:35] all right is the petitioner she's

[57:37] present

[57:40] yes there is thank you

[57:43] um bill 789-22 came before zoning and

[57:47] annexation this afternoon and comes to

[57:50] the committee of the whole with a

[57:51] favorable recommendation

[57:54] all right we have our petitioner and I

[57:56] ask that you state your name and address

[57:57] I share with us key points we got

[57:59] regarding this bill

[58:05] okay before you use a request for a

[58:07] special exception for heavy industrial

[58:08] the property is located out near the

[58:10] Tire Rack at Warden and Dynam boulevards

[58:13] it's currently vacant it's been vacant

[58:16] since the industrial subdivision kind of

[58:19] came through and sat here and developed

[58:22] the petitioner is looking to use both

[58:23] lots to develop a large warehouse and

[58:27] distribution facility

[58:29] with some chemical potential in the the

[58:33] works because there may be

[58:35] dangerous or hazardous materials just to

[58:39] be safe they are asking for the special

[58:41] exception for the heavy industrial

[58:43] classification there aren't many things

[58:45] that kind of trigger between the two we

[58:46] only have one industrial classification

[58:48] so anytime it's a heavy industrial it's

[58:49] always a special exception with a

[58:51] council in this case it's located in an

[58:54] industrial district surrounded by

[58:55] industrial uses and the portion that

[58:58] might be of that use is located behind

[59:00] and out of side of the the traveling

[59:03] public so it's of situated for the

[59:06] intended use

[59:08] based on the information that we had in

[59:12] a discussion with the poor zoning

[59:13] appeals they send this to you with a

[59:15] favorable recommendation the petitioner

[59:17] is here and we'll be happy to answer any

[59:18] questions all right if you would please

[59:21] approach the podium give us your name

[59:22] and address please

[59:25] thank you sir my name is George

[59:26] lepignotas my address is 4101 Edison

[59:30] Lakes Parkway Mishawaka Indiana I'm

[59:32] attorney with Creek default I represent

[59:34] Coast southwest coast Southwest is a

[59:37] family company that has been has been in

[59:41] business for many decades currently

[59:43] headquartered in California with a

[59:45] facility in Texas they also have some

[59:49] currently leased facilities throughout

[59:51] the Midwest

[59:52] the owners of Coast Southwest Are Notre

[59:55] Dame alumni and wanted to expand their

[59:57] Midwest footprint they naturally looked

[59:59] to South Bend and found the real estate

[1:00:02] that was previously mentioned by the

[1:00:04] zoning administrator

[1:00:06] the application before you today is made

[1:00:09] out of an abundance of caution 70 of

[1:00:13] Coast Southwest work is packaged Goods

[1:00:16] they do not process on-site they simply

[1:00:19] buy the packages and then resell as a

[1:00:22] distributor would however in partnership

[1:00:24] with the University of Notre Dame they

[1:00:26] are looking at potentially

[1:00:28] commercializing some new types of

[1:00:30] processes that could trigger that the

[1:00:34] ingredients that Coast Southwest handles

[1:00:37] um

[1:00:38] could be considered hazardous in some of

[1:00:41] their forms throughout the process so it

[1:00:43] is important that they are up front and

[1:00:45] ask for this designation sooner rather

[1:00:48] than later partly because of their

[1:00:51] corporate philosophy they're a extremely

[1:00:53] they take pride in their corporate

[1:00:55] responsibilities their multi-year

[1:00:57] Excellence Award winner from What's

[1:00:58] called the nacd which is which is the

[1:01:01] National Association of chemical

[1:01:02] Distributors they use best practices as

[1:01:05] you can imagine in a state like

[1:01:06] California they are very comfortable

[1:01:08] dealing with federal state and local

[1:01:10] regulations and the building is being

[1:01:14] designed and potentially built by

[1:01:16] holiday properties so an experienced

[1:01:19] outfit doing that portion as well it

[1:01:22] will have all necessary and legal

[1:01:24] requirements for redundancies to ensure

[1:01:27] the safety of the general public as well

[1:01:29] as the environmental resources in the

[1:01:31] community

[1:01:32] council members do you have any

[1:01:34] questions

[1:01:37] I know that some of these industrial

[1:01:39] buildings have to have these these uh

[1:01:42] cages that

[1:01:43] in case something happens it contains

[1:01:46] everything and this this will have that

[1:01:49] correct yeah and I believe if you look

[1:01:51] it's a little hard to see but on the

[1:01:52] screen there is

[1:01:54] um the plan is for 94 000 square feet of

[1:01:57] the potential 200 000 square feet to be

[1:01:59] built immediately uh there is a small

[1:02:02] um uh

[1:02:04] square with an arrow pointing to it that

[1:02:06] is the potential

[1:02:08] containment center for anything that

[1:02:11] might be categorized as hazardous

[1:02:13] thank you anyone else

[1:02:16] Mr wax with this project uh go forward

[1:02:20] without this uh exception

[1:02:22] that's a great question that's uh when I

[1:02:26] was first approached by my client the

[1:02:27] question was whether or not they even

[1:02:29] needed this the heavy industrial

[1:02:31] exception given what they're doing they

[1:02:35] feel very

[1:02:36] um

[1:02:37] confident that what they are doing does

[1:02:39] not as I told the committee earlier this

[1:02:41] isn't green goop you know bubbling out

[1:02:43] of a vat but

[1:02:46] um you know environmental laws are just

[1:02:47] getting more and more restrictive and so

[1:02:50] they do feel it's important that they

[1:02:53] check the the boxes that the city has

[1:02:56] set forth in its ordinance its ordinance

[1:02:59] for having Industrials very specific

[1:03:01] if you are handling hazardous material

[1:03:04] that qualifies you as as uh heavy

[1:03:07] industrial so they feel it's important

[1:03:10] what what kind of economic impact

[1:03:14] would this project bring their employees

[1:03:17] what kind of salaries what other

[1:03:20] economic drivers with this brand so um

[1:03:23] in addition to the aforementioned

[1:03:26] um employees I'm sorry the building of

[1:03:29] the space you know the plan is for 94

[1:03:31] 000 square foot immediate construction

[1:03:33] uh that will be staffed by eight to ten

[1:03:36] new hires here in this community uh if

[1:03:39] the project is successful and

[1:03:43] um grows and and that's probably a

[1:03:45] misstatement if the project grows the

[1:03:47] the use is already there they already

[1:03:49] have sales offices throughout the

[1:03:51] Midwest that they're going to

[1:03:52] consolidate here in the South Bend and

[1:03:54] they also currently have a distribution

[1:03:56] center in Illinois that they would then

[1:03:59] vacate that lease and move over so the

[1:04:02] 94 000 square feet is just part of their

[1:04:04] there are already existing operations

[1:04:07] but if they grow to that 200 000 square

[1:04:10] feet that they anticipate growing to

[1:04:11] that would be a total of 50 50 to 60 new

[1:04:14] jobs

[1:04:15] and would also continue to grow as far

[1:04:18] as their their partnership with the

[1:04:20] University

[1:04:21] I also see that they are they're very

[1:04:25] responsible company run by a father and

[1:04:29] now his daughter both ND grads they

[1:04:32] enjoy South Bend so I would not see this

[1:04:34] as being the last of their investment

[1:04:36] here but but the first

[1:04:38] thank you

[1:04:40] anyone else I just have comments when at

[1:04:43] times around thank you right now then I

[1:04:46] will uh

[1:04:49] we won't go to the public hearing

[1:04:51] portion uh Clark Jones is there anyone

[1:04:54] from the public wishing to speak in

[1:04:55] favor of Bill 79-22

[1:05:00] virtual public that expresses interest

[1:05:02] to speak in favor of Bill 7922

[1:05:06] is there any one wishing to speak in

[1:05:08] opposition

[1:05:09] there's no one

[1:05:12] interested speaking opposition as well

[1:05:15] at this point the public hearing on bill

[1:05:17] 79-22 is now closed

[1:05:20] uh now we will go to statements from the

[1:05:22] council members

[1:05:30] I'll just waiting for the chair to

[1:05:31] recognize me okay

[1:05:33] okay I was waiting for you to think

[1:05:34] about me to jump in now go ahead okay

[1:05:38] um I was just going to say thank you for

[1:05:40] your presentation

[1:05:42] tell you the investors thank you for

[1:05:44] investing in South Bend I just only wish

[1:05:46] 100 years ago that we had the same type

[1:05:49] of like laws on the books and

[1:05:51] enforcement I wouldn't have the back

[1:05:53] slate issue going on in the second

[1:05:55] district with a hill that is full of

[1:05:57] trash that we want to say it's not and

[1:05:59] so I I really think

[1:06:02] God that we do have those sorts of

[1:06:04] restrictions so we don't have to revisit

[1:06:06] that as well you have that so much and

[1:06:09] so many other communities you have been

[1:06:11] in Harbor Water Crisis restrictions are

[1:06:14] set by the EPA when it comes to what you

[1:06:17] guys are talking about and again thank

[1:06:19] you for the presentation and I feel safe

[1:06:21] and comfortable because obviously

[1:06:22] there's somebody enforcing the law then

[1:06:25] we had to deal with it and you know go

[1:06:28] on for for decades as it relates to

[1:06:31] People's Health and Wellness in that

[1:06:33] area

[1:06:34] all right any other council members

[1:06:38] I would just like to say thank you as as

[1:06:40] a representative of First District thank

[1:06:42] you for the investment in the first

[1:06:45] district and we're looking forward to

[1:06:46] those 50 to 60 new jobs and and

[1:06:49] everything is spending and and and

[1:06:51] things going well so thank you again

[1:06:53] thank you and I know my clients are

[1:06:55] online listening so I'm sure they

[1:06:57] appreciate that as well

[1:07:00] all right I will now entertain a motion

[1:07:02] regarding bill 79-22

[1:07:05] the full council with favorable

[1:07:06] recognition second

[1:07:08] all right there's been a motion and a

[1:07:11] second

[1:07:11] uh Clark Jones please call the world

[1:07:14] councilmember White

[1:07:16] council member Thomas Morgan

[1:07:19] aye councilmember Hammond I vice

[1:07:21] president

[1:07:22] aye council member Davis

[1:07:24] aye council member Lee

[1:07:26] aye council member Warner aye council

[1:07:29] member wax aye president McBride

[1:07:32] aye nine eyes

[1:07:34] all right

[1:07:36] um

[1:07:37] 79-22 will be sent to the full council

[1:07:39] with a favorable recommendation I will

[1:07:41] now entertain a motion to rise from the

[1:07:44] committee of the whole and report back

[1:07:45] to the full Council SoMo all right it's

[1:07:48] been moved in second can we do it by

[1:07:50] acclimation yes all that some favors say

[1:07:53] aye aye all that opposed

[1:07:56] all right motion passes

[1:08:10] we're now on bills on third reading

[1:08:12] this portion of our meeting is where

[1:08:14] bills are given a third reading and

[1:08:15] action is taken regarding bills that

[1:08:17] were heard during the committee as a

[1:08:18] whole Carter Jones will you give Bill

[1:08:20] 63-22 a third read

[1:08:23] 63-22 third reading on an ordinance of

[1:08:26] the common Council the city of South

[1:08:27] Bend Indiana and next thing to and

[1:08:30] bringing within the city limits of South

[1:08:32] Bend Indiana and amending the zoning

[1:08:34] ordinance for property located in German

[1:08:36] Township continued contiguous there with

[1:08:40] councilman and District number one for

[1:08:43] 21275 Cleveland Road South Bend Indiana

[1:08:47] thank you counselor Lee is their

[1:08:50] recommendation for the from the

[1:08:51] committee of the whole yes

[1:08:54] um Bill 63-22 comes to the full

[1:08:57] Constable the favorable recommendation

[1:08:59] thank you I will now entertain a motion

[1:09:01] regarding bill 63-22

[1:09:13] the role please

[1:09:15] council member Thomas Morgan

[1:09:18] council member Hammond aye vice

[1:09:21] president

[1:09:23] aye councilmember Davis

[1:09:25] aye council member Lee

[1:09:27] aye council member Warner aye council

[1:09:29] member wax

[1:09:30] aye council member white

[1:09:32] aye president McBride aye nine eyes

[1:09:38] bill 63-22 has been adopted

[1:09:42] Clark Jones will you please give Bill

[1:09:44] 69-22 a third reading

[1:09:48] 69-22 third reading when an ordinance of

[1:09:51] the common Council of the city of South

[1:09:52] Bend Indiana approving a petition of The

[1:09:55] Advisory Board of zoning appeals for the

[1:09:58] property located at 1405 Portage Avenue

[1:10:01] councilmanic District number one in the

[1:10:04] city of South Bend Indiana

[1:10:06] thank you I will now like to counselor

[1:10:09] Lee is their recommendation for the

[1:10:11] committee as a whole regarding Bill

[1:10:13] 69-22 comes to the full council with the

[1:10:17] unfavorable recommendation

[1:10:19] I will now entertain a motion regarding

[1:10:21] Bill 6922

[1:10:25] make a motion to reject bill 69-22

[1:10:28] second

[1:10:29] it has been moved and seconded Clark

[1:10:31] Jones the role please

[1:10:34] council member Hammond

[1:10:36] aye

[1:10:37] vice president

[1:10:40] aye

[1:10:40] council member Davis nay

[1:10:43] council member Lee

[1:10:45] aye

[1:10:46] council member Warner

[1:10:48] aye

[1:10:48] council member wax nay

[1:10:52] councilmember white

[1:10:53] aye

[1:10:54] council member Thomas Morgan

[1:10:57] aye

[1:10:57] president McBride nay

[1:11:02] six eyes and three Nays

[1:11:06] bill is 69-22

[1:11:08] was rejected

[1:11:11] foreign

[1:11:12] Jones will you give Bill 74-22 a third

[1:11:16] reading

[1:11:20] 74-22 third reading on an ordinance of

[1:11:23] the common Council of the city of South

[1:11:24] Bend Indiana amending the zoning

[1:11:27] coordinates for property located at 505

[1:11:29] Ireland Road 4412 fellow street and 4422

[1:11:34] fellow street councilmanic District

[1:11:36] number five in the city of South Bend

[1:11:38] Indiana

[1:11:39] thank you

[1:11:41] counselor Lee is there a recommendation

[1:11:43] for Bill number 74-22

[1:11:48] 71-22 I thought it had been

[1:11:53] um oh I'm sorry yes it comes to the full

[1:11:56] Council of favorable recommendation

[1:11:57] thank you I would now entertain a motion

[1:12:00] regarding Bill 7422

[1:12:02] I move for Passage second it's been

[1:12:05] moved and seconded clerk Jones the role

[1:12:07] please

[1:12:08] vice president naskowski aye

[1:12:11] council member Davis

[1:12:14] aye

[1:12:15] council member Lee

[1:12:17] aye councilmember Warner

[1:12:19] aye council member wax

[1:12:22] aye councilmember white

[1:12:24] aye council member Thomas Morgan aye

[1:12:27] councilmember Hammond

[1:12:29] aye

[1:12:30] president McBride aye nine eyes

[1:12:34] thank you Bill number 7422 has been

[1:12:36] adopted

[1:12:38] Clark Jones will you please give bill

[1:12:40] number 79-22 a third reading

[1:12:44] 79-22 third reading on an ordinance of

[1:12:46] the common Council the city of South

[1:12:48] Bend Indiana

[1:12:49] approving a petition of The Advisory

[1:12:51] Board of zoning appeals for property

[1:12:53] located at 7468 and 7686 boarding

[1:12:58] Parkway councilman District number one

[1:13:00] in the city of South Bend Indiana

[1:13:03] thank you I will now entertain a motion

[1:13:05] regarding bill 79-22

[1:13:09] second it has been moved and seconded

[1:13:11] Clark Jones the role please

[1:13:14] council member Davis

[1:13:16] uh council member Lee

[1:13:19] aye council member Warner

[1:13:21] aye council member wax

[1:13:23] aye council member white

[1:13:24] aye council member Thomas Morgan

[1:13:27] aye councilmember Hammond

[1:13:29] aye vice president

[1:13:32] aye president McBride

[1:13:34] aye nine eyes thank you Bill 79 22 has

[1:13:38] been adopted

[1:13:40] there are no resolutions on tonight's

[1:13:42] agenda

[1:13:43] there are also no first readings on

[1:13:46] tonight's agenda at this time I want to

[1:13:49] open it up for unfinished business

[1:13:54] if there are none I want to open it up

[1:13:56] for new business

[1:14:00] ladies first

[1:14:03] goski thank you president McBride

[1:14:07] um

[1:14:07] I just wanted to make sure everybody

[1:14:09] knew that before March 1st for citizen

[1:14:11] numbers to apply to the council website

[1:14:14] or contact the clerk's office if you

[1:14:16] want to be a citizen member on one of

[1:14:19] the standing committees

[1:14:21] um

[1:14:22] and also there is the Martin Luther King

[1:14:25] breakfast that's going to be at 7 30 a.m

[1:14:28] on January the 16th as well as the rest

[1:14:31] of a day of different

[1:14:33] um meetings that they'll be hosting

[1:14:35] also the one last thing I want to talk

[1:14:37] about is Lawrence Greenspan with the

[1:14:40] 2045 plan has reached out their

[1:14:44] engagement process is going to be ending

[1:14:46] on March 31st

[1:14:49] so if any of the council members in

[1:14:51] their respective districts that would

[1:14:53] still like to plan something for

[1:14:54] engagement you have until that time so

[1:14:57] it's fast approaching if you'd like to

[1:14:59] plan something please reach out to Mr

[1:15:01] Greenspan

[1:15:03] thank you counselor Davis yes ma'am

[1:15:06] thank you so much for recognizing me I

[1:15:08] am I'll give me a couple moments

[1:15:11] um 2005

[1:15:13] um I had to campaign to become a priest

[1:15:16] and committee chairman that job itself

[1:15:19] um usually was given away by the

[1:15:21] chairman of the party at that time um

[1:15:23] and rest in peace Bush Morgan seriously

[1:15:26] um we um understood the only way that

[1:15:30] you can get into the party was through

[1:15:31] that blessing well I successfully

[1:15:34] campaigned for that job and subsequently

[1:15:37] I was elected in 2005.

[1:15:40] 2007-2008 year I campaigned and I ran

[1:15:42] for councilman of the city of South Bend

[1:15:44] Second District

[1:15:46] um

[1:15:48] thank God I got him

[1:15:51] from that point on I began to work to

[1:15:54] establish

[1:15:56] some sort of congruency

[1:15:59] advocacy and also support in a number of

[1:16:04] different ways for the the district

[1:16:06] itself

[1:16:07] within that time frame I had

[1:16:11] um probably caused a lot of problems and

[1:16:13] and got a lot of things resolved and it

[1:16:15] was just really difficult and funky but

[1:16:18] as a part of the learning process as it

[1:16:20] relates to this job

[1:16:22] as we move forward time has gone going

[1:16:25] on

[1:16:27] um as a result of that advocacy after

[1:16:30] the the the some of the pains and bumps

[1:16:33] and bruises I've received we started to

[1:16:35] see development in the second district

[1:16:38] the development started to see obviously

[1:16:40] came from the city so that had a lot to

[1:16:43] do with not with private investment but

[1:16:44] it's public investment but I take it

[1:16:47] did a very good job I'm patting myself

[1:16:49] on the back on a number of these things

[1:16:51] one thing and I don't want to belar the

[1:16:53] point so I'm going to go to it really

[1:16:55] quick LaSalle Center receives a four and

[1:16:58] a half million dollar investment

[1:17:00] deserved it right the building was

[1:17:03] remodeled refurbished everyone's happy

[1:17:06] in the community because we finally got

[1:17:08] what we're looking for

[1:17:10] um to get some more things passed as a

[1:17:13] matter of fact councilmember white

[1:17:14] helped out with this one co-sponsored we

[1:17:17] got some monies invested over into the

[1:17:19] Lincolnway race Corridor and Western

[1:17:21] Avenue Corridor during that time that

[1:17:23] money has been used to not only change

[1:17:25] the way Western Avenue Rush Nevada would

[1:17:28] be Hayes but also looks then you really

[1:17:30] get you got the idea of what facade

[1:17:33] Brands can do in a particular area

[1:17:35] because now that those few blocks they

[1:17:37] look really good that's how we got

[1:17:39] investment in that area that's how we

[1:17:41] got people to really believe in that

[1:17:42] area again

[1:17:44] and then as I fast forward to 2023

[1:17:49] we're looking forward to the expansion

[1:17:51] excuse me the demolition

[1:17:55] and the groundbreaking

[1:17:58] and now the rebuilding of a Martin

[1:18:00] Luther King Jr recreational sandwiches

[1:18:03] Journey Center

[1:18:04] we don't get that without all of the

[1:18:06] years of Labor that I put in for the

[1:18:09] second district we've been able to look

[1:18:11] and realize a new neighborhood plan for

[1:18:13] that area

[1:18:14] right we we we're looking at residents

[1:18:17] who are engaged at a higher level

[1:18:19] because of the work and the labor that

[1:18:22] has been put in to making sure that the

[1:18:24] residents in that direct area receive

[1:18:26] the support that they uh deserve and

[1:18:29] this vessel that's talking was a very

[1:18:32] important piece to that

[1:18:34] now as we are moving towards the

[1:18:37] official groundbreaking

[1:18:40] we're looking at an opportunity where

[1:18:43] the council member for that area

[1:18:46] that has labored labored and labor for

[1:18:49] that particular area

[1:18:51] not being able even to allow to speak

[1:18:54] during the course of that ceremony

[1:18:58] I call foul on that

[1:19:01] and I call that to be one of the most

[1:19:03] disrespectful moves by the current

[1:19:06] Administration on whoever participated

[1:19:08] with him on designing

[1:19:11] an agenda that does not include the

[1:19:14] representative for that area

[1:19:18] how do you disregard the work

[1:19:23] that a person has put in to a particular

[1:19:26] area

[1:19:27] I don't know

[1:19:29] but to whoever is listening upstairs

[1:19:33] outside over the Airways or even sitting

[1:19:35] here with the council

[1:19:37] you may want to revisit

[1:19:39] that thought

[1:19:40] and you may also want to figure out how

[1:19:43] to make sure that the people of that

[1:19:45] community in particular get what they

[1:19:48] deserve and that's me because I put the

[1:19:52] work in to ensure to make sure that that

[1:19:54] area was taken care of nobody else

[1:19:57] Against All Odds it got done

[1:20:01] I think Mr Aaron Perry for his foresight

[1:20:03] and ensuring that the center could be

[1:20:05] built all of the things that have taken

[1:20:07] place like I said since 2005.

[1:20:11] that's my work 18 years and I deserve to

[1:20:15] be at the microphone when it's time for

[1:20:17] it to be ground broken thank you

[1:20:22] thank you anyone else

[1:20:24] I would just like to give a brief update

[1:20:26] that hopefully the next month or so the

[1:20:29] council will receive an update on

[1:20:31] environmental concerns or issues and

[1:20:34] discussions that have been ongoing

[1:20:38] involving not only the administration

[1:20:42] but also heads hats off to the St Joseph

[1:20:47] Health Department as well as the

[1:20:49] leadership of the County council at that

[1:20:52] time I think that once that presentation

[1:20:55] comes before the council it really shows

[1:20:58] the results when all entities come

[1:21:01] together we can get the job done so I

[1:21:04] look forward to that update hopefully in

[1:21:06] the next month or so

[1:21:09] thank you anyone else

[1:21:12] I would just like to say that uh as we

[1:21:15] are in

[1:21:17] barking on the New Year it's 2023.

[1:21:20] that we all can work together

[1:21:25] for the benefit of our community

[1:21:28] um

[1:21:29] and that we're able to

[1:21:31] um

[1:21:32] put differences aside and and look for

[1:21:36] common ground to be able to

[1:21:38] do what we've been elected to do

[1:21:41] and that's to represent our community

[1:21:43] and to make South Bend a better place

[1:21:47] all of us have great ideals

[1:21:50] all of us have great energy

[1:21:54] um

[1:21:55] and if we can work together

[1:22:00] we can

[1:22:02] put differences aside

[1:22:06] it will help our city benefit better so

[1:22:09] I'm just asking as we're going to 2023

[1:22:11] that that we would all just take a

[1:22:14] moment and focus on serving our

[1:22:16] community and trying to make South Bend

[1:22:19] a better place to live our kids are

[1:22:21] watching

[1:22:23] and

[1:22:25] we want to be a great example to our

[1:22:27] children

[1:22:28] so

[1:22:29] thank you

[1:22:31] anyone else

[1:22:33] [Music]

[1:22:36] counselor Thomas Morgan

[1:22:38] um I just want to say I uh

[1:22:41] Mr Davis I'm not really sure

[1:22:44] why you made your statements in in this

[1:22:47] particular form right now but we all

[1:22:50] know that we're a lot coming into a

[1:22:53] campaign season

[1:22:55] um it appears that we need to have a

[1:22:57] discussion among the council how we use

[1:23:01] this time in the council meeting I do

[1:23:04] not I personally do not believe that

[1:23:07] this is a time for anybody any of us to

[1:23:10] be making campaign stem speeches thank

[1:23:12] you

[1:23:13] my assertion to you and his counsel was

[1:23:16] about me not being included and on the

[1:23:19] council business

[1:23:20] it has everything to do with City

[1:23:22] business it has nothing to do with the

[1:23:24] campaign commitment I just talked about

[1:23:27] the level and amount of time spent

[1:23:29] getting that community over there called

[1:23:32] candy Park organized not only with the

[1:23:36] neighborhood association but leadership

[1:23:37] for the neighborhood association so we

[1:23:39] can go about the business of development

[1:23:41] in that area I don't know how that turns

[1:23:43] into a campaign the slogan but I'm going

[1:23:45] to tell you what 18 years are spent

[1:23:47] doing this I'm proud of my work

[1:23:50] I'm sorry that you don't understand it

[1:23:55] thank you with that I will move to the

[1:23:58] privilege of the floor

[1:24:00] um

[1:24:01] Clark Jones well is there anyone I see

[1:24:07] thank you if you please state your name

[1:24:09] and address you know the routine

[1:24:11] happy New Year happy New Year Sharon

[1:24:13] Nikki 3822 Ford Street

[1:24:17] you guys aren't going to like some of

[1:24:18] what I've got to say but it's got to be

[1:24:20] said

[1:24:21] seventeen thousand dollars was spent

[1:24:23] between the month of November and

[1:24:25] December to pay the clerk and another

[1:24:28] person and still no meeting minutes that

[1:24:31] is be Beyond obscene I was here when

[1:24:35] John vorte was clerk I complained about

[1:24:38] the meeting minutes not being timely I

[1:24:40] was here when Karima was clerk I

[1:24:42] complained about the meetings not being

[1:24:44] timely the fact that we don't have any

[1:24:46] meeting minutes since September and

[1:24:48] they're still being rejected shame on

[1:24:51] all of you every one of you you're a

[1:24:54] grown adult put your egos at the door

[1:24:57] and put your hands together and get this

[1:24:59] solved get this over with get these

[1:25:02] meeting minutes online the city doesn't

[1:25:04] have money for lawsuits because egos

[1:25:07] can't be checked

[1:25:10] I've run into a couple of you here and

[1:25:12] there and we've had

[1:25:14] conversations Mr Lee stop me and he says

[1:25:18] how do you like your new line on Chicago

[1:25:19] Street

[1:25:21] I never got my new light

[1:25:24] how's the shootings are they down no

[1:25:27] everybody knows Derek Dieter does video

[1:25:30] on New Year's Eve if I wasn't in my

[1:25:32] bedroom protecting my grandson I could

[1:25:35] have done a video out my front door that

[1:25:37] would have rivaled Derek deters only

[1:25:39] instead of being a couple blocks this

[1:25:41] way or that way they were in my backyard

[1:25:43] they were next to me they were across

[1:25:46] the street from me so no things are not

[1:25:48] getting better over there I was asked

[1:25:51] how I felt about that press conference

[1:25:53] that happened in front of my house

[1:25:55] across the street

[1:25:57] that press conference didn't do anything

[1:25:59] but highlight how bad it is we live it

[1:26:02] we know how bad it is

[1:26:04] nobody except for one person after that

[1:26:07] press conference walked door to door to

[1:26:09] talk to the neighbors you show up you

[1:26:12] tell us how bad it is you get back in

[1:26:14] your vehicles and you drive away and

[1:26:17] we're still living this nightmare

[1:26:19] come do your press conference but bring

[1:26:22] suggestions say hey we're going to try

[1:26:23] this or what do you think about that no

[1:26:26] it was hey I can't believe how many guns

[1:26:29] have been fired over here I can't

[1:26:30] believe how many shootings

[1:26:32] I believe it I live it daily I live it

[1:26:35] nightly my grandson didn't come over for

[1:26:38] months at a time because his parents

[1:26:40] didn't trust him in my house

[1:26:43] and then I bring him over New Year's Eve

[1:26:45] and I've got the neighbors next to me

[1:26:47] and across the street from me and these

[1:26:49] aren't just little guns

[1:26:51] um

[1:26:52] the night I saw you Mr Lee that weekend

[1:26:55] prior the police officers heard the guns

[1:26:58] going they called it in before shot

[1:27:00] spotter did High Velocity rapid fire

[1:27:03] gunshots so these aren't little guns

[1:27:06] they're playing with

[1:27:07] we need Solutions we don't need press

[1:27:10] conferences we don't need dog and pony

[1:27:12] shows we need answers we need people to

[1:27:15] come and talk to us I know my neighbors

[1:27:17] are working with the police because the

[1:27:20] police tell me that there's been

[1:27:22] shootings they come back to my house

[1:27:23] asking for my video I look through my

[1:27:26] camera if I've got it it's theirs if I

[1:27:29] don't I can't give it to them I go knock

[1:27:31] on my neighbor's doors hey there was

[1:27:33] another shooting do you have any video

[1:27:35] yes they do or no they don't and it gets

[1:27:38] turned over but we need more help the

[1:27:41] police department has hired and hiring

[1:27:43] and they need to keep hiring we need

[1:27:46] these specialty units back we need a

[1:27:49] gang unit we need a drug unit during the

[1:27:52] recent blizzard when weather was

[1:27:54] terrible everybody stayed home except

[1:27:57] for my drug house they still did

[1:27:59] business as usual because they're a drag

[1:28:02] house and they knew the roads would

[1:28:04] nobody else was going to be on the roads

[1:28:05] but they had traffic coming and going

[1:28:07] and everybody in the neighborhood knows

[1:28:09] they're a drug house

[1:28:10] but what's happening with it

[1:28:13] I don't know maybe it'll get raided

[1:28:15] maybe it won't

[1:28:17] time man

[1:28:19] thank you thank you so much for your

[1:28:21] comment is there anyone else in the

[1:28:23] audience I would like to speak for a

[1:28:25] purpose of the floor

[1:28:28] if not clerk Jones will you please is

[1:28:31] there anyone in the virtual audience

[1:28:35] there's no one in a virtual audience

[1:28:37] that is expressing interest to speak on

[1:28:40] privilege of the floor thank you so much

[1:28:42] with that this meeting is adjourned

[1:29:20] foreign

[1:29:52] you ready

[1:30:29] so

01-09-2022 South Bend Common Council Meeting

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