City Council - Regular Meeting Amended - 23 Jun 2026

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[0:51] Okay, we're going to start the meeting.
[0:54] Good evening everyone. We're going to go
[0:55] ahead and start our meeting. If you
[0:56] please rise for the pledge of
[0:57] allegiance.
[0:58] Mr. T.J. Williams is going to lead us.
[1:04] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[1:06] United States of America and to the
[1:08] republic for which it stands, one nation
[1:11] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:14] justice for all.
[1:16] >> Thank you.
[1:17] » Thank you.
[1:17] And uh
[1:18] invocation be by Deacon Nathaniel Foley
[1:22] from
[1:24] Set Free Church in Yucca Valley.
[1:27] >> Good evening.
[1:29] » Good evening.
[1:29] Mayor, city council members, fellow
[1:31] community members, I want to thank you
[1:33] for welcoming here to do this
[1:34] invocation.
[1:35] Let us pray. Father in heaven, Lord of
[1:37] hosts, we stand before you today men and
[1:39] women created in your image. You created
[1:41] us with purpose, a desire to seek, to
[1:43] build, to grow, to love. You created us
[1:46] with a thirst that only you can quench,
[1:48] a hunger that only you can fill, and a
[1:50] vision only you can accomplish. We ask
[1:52] for the power of your spirit to go
[1:53] before us, each one of us, in the
[1:55] decision we make.
[1:57] We pray for an anointing on Twentynine
[1:58] Palms in the surrounding regions. We
[2:00] pray that we will not just be known for
[2:02] the military base or the national park
[2:05] or a back way to Vegas, but for a
[2:07] community that is filled with grace,
[2:08] mercy, and compassion.
[2:12] Loving each other as we do ourselves,
[2:14] protecting the least of these, restoring
[2:16] family, encouraging the individual, and
[2:18] furthering the growth of our city. We
[2:20] want to thank you, Lord Jesus, for what
[2:22] you have done so far, and we know you
[2:24] can do abundantly more than we ask,
[2:25] think, or imagine.
[2:27] Help us to think what you would do when
[2:29] making decisions that affect people.
[2:31] Help us to stand in faith, loving what
[2:33] is good, hating what is evil. We pray
[2:35] for the faith that has died or been
[2:37] misled or snatched away to be restored.
[2:40] That we would be a people group that
[2:41] stand on your principles. We thank you
[2:43] for the men and women who serve in this
[2:45] community
[2:46] in a position of authority. We thank you
[2:48] for being viewed on demand at the city
[2:49] of Twentynine Palms website at
[2:50] www.twentyninepalms.org.
[2:53] >> You may livestream this meeting by going
[2:55] » You may livestream this meeting by going
[2:55] to the website, clicking uh meeting
[2:57] agenda link. Awards, presentations,
[3:00] appointments, and proclamations. Trash
[3:02] for Cash presentation.
[3:03] Tim, if you could go meet them at the
[3:05] podium and bring up the Twentynine Palms
[3:07] High School Impact Host Club. Is anybody
[3:10] here from
[3:12] the high school Impact Host Club?
[3:16] No? Okay.
[3:18] Anybody here from the Explorer Scouts
[3:19] Post 509?
[3:23] I believe there is.
[3:38] » On behalf of the city of Twentynine
[3:39] Palms and Burrtec, we would like to
[3:41] extend our gratification to you guys for
[3:43] helping to clean up our community and
[3:45] serving our community.
[3:47] If you'd like, I'd like to if you got
[3:49] the phone to let us know where you all
[3:50] up at.
[3:52] >> We clean up on the corners of
[3:54] » We clean up on the corners of
[3:54] the end of
[3:55] what's called Lucky Park. We clean up
[3:57] the entire maybe a mile of the trash
[4:00] where we
[4:02] I'm sorry, we
[4:04] can't remember the street off the top of
[4:05] our head, but we clean up the desert and
[4:06] make it look more presentable for our
[4:07] community and for the desert wildlife.
[4:10] >> Outstanding. Thank you so much for your
[4:11] » Outstanding. Thank you so much for your
[4:12] community service. Let's give them a
[4:13] round of applause.
[4:18] And so on on the behalf of the city of
[4:20] Twentynine Palms and Burrtec, we have
[4:22] two checks for you guys for your
[4:23] dedication.
[4:46] » [applause]
[5:09] » Okay, we have a couple of proclamations
[5:11] to to read.
[5:18] Right over here, yeah.
[5:20] Good.
[5:22] Okay.
[5:23] This is a city of Twentynine Palms
[5:24] proclamation, Juneteenth Independence
[5:26] Day 2026. Whereas Juneteenth is known as
[5:29] Juneteenth Independence Day
[5:31] Mac Mac
[5:33] Mac Emancipation Day. Sorry,
[5:35] Emancipation celebration and Freedom Day
[5:37] is the oldest known celebration
[5:39] commemorating the ending of the slavery
[5:40] in the United States and has been
[5:42] celebrated by the black community for
[5:43] over 150 years. And whereas
[5:46] in for reflection and rejoicing, a time
[5:48] of assessment, self-improvement, and for
[5:50] planning the future. And whereas
[5:52] residents are encouraged to join
[5:53] together in celebration of freedom
[5:55] of freedom, family, and community by
[5:57] embodying a spirit of peace, respect,
[5:59] brotherly love to honor and salute our
[6:01] city, our rich cultural legacy, and
[6:03] diversity.
[6:04] Now, therefore, be it resolved that the
[6:06] City Council of the City of Sunny Isles
[6:08] does hereby proclaim June 19, 2026 as
[6:11] Juneteenth Independence Day. We call
[6:12] upon residents to take this opportunity
[6:15] to learn more about the past, better
[6:17] understand the experiences that have
[6:18] shaped the United States, and recognize
[6:20] observance of the end of the slavery as
[6:22] part of the history and heritage of the
[6:23] United States. Dated this 19th day of
[6:26] June, 2026.
[6:30] » And this is for you.
[6:35] » Thank you.
[6:39] » [applause]
[6:40] >> Thank you.
[6:42] I just wanted to say thank you for this
[6:44] presentation.
[6:45] >> You know, on behalf of the women of
[6:46] » You know, on behalf of the women of
[6:46] Color Global, we thank you.
[6:49] >> Till next year.
[6:49] » Till next year.
[6:49] >> Till next year.
[6:54] Okay, Mr. Williams, did you come on?
[6:58] Okay, uh City of Sunny Isles
[6:59] proclamation, LGBTQ+
[7:02] Pride Month 2026. Whereas the City of
[7:05] Sunny Isles is welcome community and an
[7:07] exceptional place to live, work, and
[7:09] visit. And whereas the nation is founded
[7:11] on principle and every individual has
[7:14] infinite dignity and worth. The City of
[7:16] Sunny Isles Council The Sunny Isles City
[7:18] Council calls upon the people of this
[7:20] municipality to embrace the principle
[7:22] and work to to eliminate prejudice where
[7:24] wherever it exists. And whereas while
[7:26] society is largely and critically
[7:27] support LGBTQ+
[7:30] equality, it is essential to acknowledge
[7:33] that the need for education and
[7:35] awareness remains vital to end
[7:37] discrimination and prejudice. And
[7:38] whereas the City of Sunny Isles
[7:40] commends the the bravery and courage of
[7:42] those in the community the LGBTQ plus
[7:45] community who face adversity and various
[7:47] forms of violence, continued opposition
[7:49] and opposition towards LGBTQ plus
[7:52] peoples make it important for neighbors
[7:54] to stand up and show solidarity and
[7:56] support to our LGBTQ plus residents and
[8:00] the community at large. Now, therefore
[8:01] be resolved that the city council of the
[8:03] city of Twentynine Palms is hereby
[8:05] proclamation June 20, 2026 be the LGBTQ
[8:08] Pride Month in support of the LGBTQ and
[8:11] community. We call upon the residents of
[8:14] Twentynine Palms to recognize the
[8:16] achievements of the LGBTQ plus community
[8:19] and celebrate the great diversity of our
[8:20] community. Dated this 23rd day of June,
[8:23] 2026.
[8:37] » I would just like to say on behalf of
[8:40] the LGBTQ plus community, uh thank you
[8:43] to the city
[8:45] uh for recognizing Pride Month and also
[8:48] um for recognizing our contributions to
[8:50] make society a better place for all.
[8:54] >> Thank you.
[8:58] Okay. Um let's see.
[9:02] Moving on. Uh update of Groundwork Arts
[9:05] on the city of the mural project of
[9:06] Freedom Plaza.
[9:08] Is Sierra here? She's here.
[9:16] » Good evening, city council members, uh
[9:19] city staff, and community.
[9:23] I wanted to give you a brief update on
[9:25] the
[9:27] uh
[9:28] Twentynine Palms tile mural project.
[9:31] Thank you. Thank you. For Freedom Plaza.
[9:34] Um
[9:36] As a reminder, the tile mural project uh
[9:39] is a permanent ceramic mural at the
[9:41] civic heart of the city at Freedom
[9:44] Plaza. It is driven by students and the
[9:47] community, and it is not made by one
[9:49] artist, but hundreds of artists, and it
[9:51] is very much a collaborative um project.
[9:54] Staff, we don't need to
[9:56] worry about lead staff, but I did want
[9:58] to let the council members and the city
[10:00] um and community know that we have added
[10:02] additional advisors on
[10:04] who have been there, done that. So,
[10:06] Crooked Tree Ceramics in Tucson,
[10:08] Arizona, um the first slide that we
[10:11] showed here, they're in Tucson. As you
[10:13] can see, it's not your traditional tile
[10:15] murals, square mural square square
[10:17] tiles. Um they're individually created
[10:19] and pieced together. Um also, Julie
[10:22] Bender from San Pedro did a uh entire
[10:25] block-long tile mural on a retaining
[10:28] wall. Uh we sought the advice of both of
[10:31] these artists. There was some concern
[10:33] about the durability, longevity of the
[10:35] tile mural, um and that was incredibly
[10:37] important. So, we have confirmation from
[10:39] them that we are moving in the right
[10:40] direction in terms of materials and
[10:42] installation.
[10:44] Timeline has been adjusted slightly. Um
[10:47] we are on track with our youth and
[10:49] community workshops. Um we've decided
[10:53] not to rush things too much. We have a
[10:55] responsibility to commit complete
[10:58] community workshops by September 30th.
[11:01] We applied for two grants from the
[11:02] California Arts Council. Those must be
[11:05] completed by September 30th. Uh we did
[11:07] start um our first community workshops
[11:11] with students this past Monday.
[11:14] After we've completed the workshops that
[11:16] are required by the California Arts
[11:18] Council, we will again take our time
[11:20] with the mural assembly and also with
[11:22] the installation, working very closely
[11:24] with the city.
[11:27] Uh this is probably my favorite part.
[11:29] And I'm going to try to speak quickly.
[11:31] One of the things that was incredibly
[11:33] important to us is that the community
[11:34] really truly did participate in
[11:36] providing information. We did a
[11:38] community survey. We received 1,563
[11:42] results.
[11:44] Uh TK through 12th grade and the
[11:45] community. Um and these were the themes
[11:48] that came up, some of which you will be
[11:50] familiar with. Nature and desert
[11:51] landscape. Creativity and imagination
[11:54] was at the top of the list. One of the
[11:56] things I thought was most important was
[11:57] this idea of community and belonging. Uh
[12:00] history and heritage, which a lot of our
[12:03] oasis of our murals in the city of 29
[12:05] Palms speak to, but also the growth in
[12:08] future generations. I think the part
[12:10] that I was most inspired by, we asked
[12:13] the question, what do you want people to
[12:15] feel when you look at this mural? And
[12:18] the top three resounding responses were
[12:21] they want people to feel welcome,
[12:22] inspired, and connected. And that may
[12:25] seem simple, but right now in this day
[12:27] and age, I think that that's incredibly
[12:29] important.
[12:30] Um the other parts, uh symbols and
[12:32] imagery, desert animals, desert plants
[12:34] will incorporate. But one of the things
[12:36] that came up from the students is
[12:37] incorporating words, uh words that
[12:39] reflect 29, words of affirmation, words
[12:42] that are positive. You may recall from
[12:45] uh previous presentation, the Hidden
[12:47] Garden Steps in San Francisco
[12:49] incorporated stamped words in the tiles.
[12:52] Um instead of names, we're going to be
[12:54] using phrases. Um
[12:57] This is what
[12:59] got me and I feel super excited about.
[13:01] The overall idea is this idea, we are
[13:05] 29.
[13:07] And some of the phrases that came up
[13:08] were, we are stronger together.
[13:11] We are grounded.
[13:13] We are the future. We are limitless. We
[13:16] are dreamers.
[13:18] We are innovators. We are resilient.
[13:21] We are resourceful. We are definitely
[13:24] resourceful.
[13:25] Uh Uh, we are persistent. We are
[13:27] tradition and tomorrow. We are future
[13:30] leaders. We are full of possibility. Um,
[13:33] this was for me personally very
[13:34] inspiring. So, in addition to the
[13:36] imagery,
[13:37] um, we will also be incorporating some
[13:39] of the language from the students in the
[13:40] community in, um, in the tile mural. Uh,
[13:44] we I did have show and tell. I don't
[13:45] know if it's appropriate or not. I have
[13:47] some sample tiles.
[13:50] No. Yes.
[13:52] >> You want to see Sure.
[13:53] » You want to see Sure.
[13:53] >> Can I show you sample tiles?
[13:59] Um,
[14:00] one of the most important things is that
[14:03] these tiles are durable.
[14:06] Just share them. So, we have,
[14:09] Want to see them?
[14:11] Color.
[14:14] Uh, some of the color palette, the clay
[14:16] body, the glaze.
[14:26] Okay. Yeah, you want to try and break
[14:27] it? Go ahead and try to break it.
[14:30] » Scissors?
[14:32] Break it, Mr. Mayor.
[14:33] >> He told She told me to.
[14:36] » He told She told me to.
[14:36] Wait, can I use this on it?
[14:38] Just kidding.
[14:48] It's one of your pears.
[14:50] One of my Oh, my prickly pears?
[14:52] >> [laughter]
[14:52] » [laughter]
[14:52] >> Oh, yeah. All the pieces of prickly pear
[14:54] » Oh, yeah. All the pieces of prickly pear
[14:54] will go together. Um, there's some more
[14:56] sculptural pieces.
[14:58] I wanted to share that with you because
[15:00] there was some concern that we were
[15:02] going to do, um, square tiles that kids
[15:05] just went crazy marking on and they
[15:07] wouldn't look so great. Um, but we also
[15:10] wanted the kids to have their own, um,
[15:14] creativity involved. So, um, this is
[15:16] These are examples of some of those
[15:18] pieces.
[15:20] And we started again we started the clay
[15:22] tile workshops last Monday in Rowland
[15:25] Unified School District. Um Talulah was
[15:27] there today at Oasis working with TK
[15:30] through sixth graders. Uh TK need
[15:33] Talulah, do you have that the
[15:36] Yeah, that.
[15:37] So, um what we've learned is that TK
[15:40] have a little bit of trouble cutting
[15:42] tiles out. So, we had one of our high
[15:43] school students do some 3D printed
[15:47] um
[15:48] basically cookie cutters so they can
[15:50] have a general shape and then they can
[15:53] create their own off of that.
[15:56] We will be doing the future rock
[15:57] workshops at all elementary schools,
[15:59] high schools, home groups, patriotic
[16:01] hall, etc. So, I wanted to share this
[16:04] with you
[16:05] um in response to the not square tile
[16:08] scribbled on. All of these kids are
[16:10] making their own individual tiles. Um
[16:13] some are varying in quality. Um this is
[16:16] an example of a famous painting by
[16:19] Vermeer, but if you can see carefully,
[16:21] it's done with buttons and um bubbles
[16:25] and keychains and detritus. Um but what
[16:28] makes it amazing is that the color
[16:30] unifies the overall design. So, that
[16:33] will essentially be what happens with
[16:34] the kids' tiles. Like, there might not
[16:36] be brown bunnies, there might be blue
[16:38] bunnies and purple bunnies, and they
[16:39] might be in the sky or the sunset, but
[16:41] they'll all come together in a unified
[16:43] image.
[16:44] Um we will work with um our professional
[16:46] artists to organize the tiles into
[16:48] sections. Um we'll mount backer board
[16:51] and work very carefully with a licensed
[16:53] contractor. Um we were able to meet with
[16:55] our city manager Kevin Cole, and we'll
[16:57] work with him to identify a contractor
[17:00] to appropriately install um the
[17:02] installation. Sorry, the tile. Um one of
[17:05] the
[17:06] uh big questions was where is it going
[17:08] to go? The city voted, the community
[17:11] voted, um and the number one choice was
[17:15] the National Park Center North Wall. So,
[17:17] that is to the left of the Visitor
[17:19] Center door.
[17:21] The second, very close second, was front
[17:23] of the stage low wall.
[17:25] Um
[17:26] I personally like that cuz it's front
[17:27] and center, but if any of you have been
[17:29] at Freedom Plaza, you know that the
[17:31] skateboarders skate on the edge. And
[17:33] maybe at some point in the future, once
[17:35] we get this one um under our belts, we
[17:38] can consider doing something with that
[17:39] front wall.
[17:41] Uh this is again the Visitor Center
[17:43] wall. It's quite large. It won't be
[17:46] square. So, it will be in that space in
[17:48] the center, but it will have an organic
[17:50] shape so that we can counterbalance the
[17:53] harshness No.
[17:55] No uh disrespect, but the harshness of
[17:59] Freedom Plaza, it's a little bit square,
[18:01] a little bit cold. Um so, we'll have the
[18:03] organic um
[18:05] mural in that space there.
[18:07] Um I just wanted to say this. This comes
[18:09] from our community. This comes from our
[18:12] students. We are 29. We are rooted in
[18:14] community. We grow through creativity
[18:17] and connection. We look toward the
[18:19] future with hope. Um
[18:21] Thank you very much.
[18:22] >> Thank you.
[18:24] » Thank you.
[18:24] I am encouraged that I when I first
[18:26] heard about this, I thought it was just
[18:27] going to be square tiles with kids
[18:29] painting on them. Uh the other thing is
[18:31] I think this is good way a lot of uh
[18:33] interest because if they can put a bunch
[18:35] of rocks up on Interstate 15 and make a
[18:37] road to go over there so people can
[18:38] watch look at a bunch of rocks, painted
[18:39] rocks that are stacked up, this is going
[18:41] to be way better. So, just I mean, that
[18:43] thing's cool, too, I guess, but anyway,
[18:45] I think this I think this is going to be
[18:46] a good good project. Okay. Uh Council
[18:49] comments, reports, and meetings
[18:50] attended. Councilmember Bellaran.
[18:53] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[18:55] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[18:55] This past weekend, I was
[18:58] See if I can order.
[19:00] I attended the flag-raising ceremony for
[19:01] Juneteenth at City Hall.
[19:03] And then participated well, participated
[19:05] and uh audience member for the
[19:06] Juneteenth celebration by Women of
[19:08] Global Color
[19:09] at Not Sky Park. And what else? Also
[19:12] attended three All-Star games, returned
[19:14] nine All-Star teams in banning.
[19:16] Two out of three of our teams are three
[19:18] of our four of our teams are making
[19:20] their way to championship game this
[19:21] week. So, we'll see if they take some
[19:22] banners home.
[19:23] And that's all I got, Mr. Mayor.
[19:25] >> Thank you. Councilwoman Meraz.
[19:28] » Thank you. Councilwoman Meraz.
[19:28] >> I attended the CMC Foundation dinner. I
[19:31] » I attended the CMC Foundation dinner. I
[19:31] also attended the Juneteenth flag
[19:33] raising ceremony. I met with um
[19:36] Actually met with them various
[19:38] times, but also met with multiple
[19:40] transitional and temporary housing
[19:41] organizations in the San Bernardino
[19:44] Office of Homeless Services leadership
[19:46] team.
[19:47] Um
[19:48] Basically to discuss what are the next
[19:49] steps within our
[19:52] community, but also keeping in mind the
[19:55] direction that the state is pushing us
[19:57] with um Prop 36 and also
[20:01] being mindful of the new funding sources
[20:04] that are going to come out uh through
[20:05] the Encampment Resolution Fund, which
[20:07] will also cover rapid rehousing and wrap
[20:10] around services for homelessness um in
[20:13] our community.
[20:17] am hosting a town hall with SoCal Edison
[20:20] tomorrow 6:00 p.m. It was supposed to be
[20:22] here, but we um are having to do the
[20:25] upgrades for SB 707.
[20:29] Yes, okay. For SB 707, which is um state
[20:32] mandated. So, the town hall will be
[20:34] hosted at 74325
[20:37] Joe Davis here in California. We'll be
[20:39] talking about um grid reliability,
[20:42] sustainability, what's in the future um
[20:45] PSPs, and then a whole bunch of new
[20:46] programs that they're rolling out that
[20:48] could really benefit our community
[20:50] um including being able to swap out uh
[20:54] some appliances, you know, fridge,
[20:56] stove, and uh
[20:58] air conditioners for energy-efficient
[21:00] ones. And I do have an update um on the
[21:04] vocal funding. Some people have been
[21:05] following my efforts. I got into this
[21:08] because Partners Against Violence, um,
[21:12] which is a victim advocate organization
[21:13] that we have here, uh, let me know that
[21:15] they were
[21:17] slated our region was slated to receive
[21:20] a 43% budget cut from the state funding.
[21:24] Um, so basically the Victims of Crime
[21:26] Act offers victim advocacy services to
[21:30] victims of crime such as, uh, sexual
[21:33] assault, domestic violence, or any other
[21:35] violent crimes. And, um,
[21:38] I'm very proud to report that after
[21:40] significant advocacy from victim service
[21:42] providers, community leaders, and
[21:44] legislators, the California State Senate
[21:46] did approve a one-time $25 million
[21:50] increase for VOCA funding instead of the
[21:53] proposed cuts.
[21:54] Um, I would also like to give a thank
[21:57] you to Senator Hurtado, Senator Ochoa
[22:00] Bow, and, um,
[22:03] all those who help helped champion this
[22:05] effort and fight for crime victims
[22:07] across California.
[22:09] The next part of this is even though
[22:11] it's been approved, we're not done yet.
[22:13] Um, this now goes to the governor's
[22:15] office. So, the governor has to approve
[22:17] this. Um, there's been some press
[22:19] conferences that have that have been
[22:20] held that
[22:21] say he's still going to cut it
[22:23] regardless of what the Senate has
[22:25] proposed and what all of the advocacy
[22:26] groups are proposing. So,
[22:28] um, I strongly urge you to reach out, do
[22:31] your research, and if you can write a
[22:33] letter to support our
[22:35] um, Victims of Crime Act funding for
[22:37] this region. Thank you.
[22:39] >> Thank you.
[22:41] Councilmember Wright.
[22:43] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so, first I
[22:45] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so, first I
[22:45] apologize to everyone that I didn't get
[22:48] to be at the, um,
[22:50] Juneteenth flag raising all the event. I
[22:52] had to go to Oklahoma City and
[22:55] check on the parents and pick my son up
[22:57] and bring him back, um,
[23:00] cuz we got to get ready for Walhonding
[23:01] football, so
[23:03] had to do all that good stuff, but um
[23:05] >> do with football, Steve?
[23:07] » do with football, Steve?
[23:07] >> [laughter]
[23:08] » [laughter]
[23:08] >> Yes. And
[23:10] » Yes. And
[23:10] um
[23:11] I just want to take this time. Our high
[23:14] school sweetheart's birthday is
[23:16] tomorrow, so happy birthday, Ms. Alfreda
[23:19] Wright.
[23:20] Happy birthday to you.
[23:22] >> Okay. Mayor Pro Tem Scott.
[23:24] » Okay. Mayor Pro Tem Scott.
[23:24] >> Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. I
[23:26] » Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. I
[23:26] attended a meeting um
[23:28] with you, of course, um with the company
[23:31] called Bronco,
[23:33] um who is wanting to build um
[23:36] tiny homes in our community. I thought
[23:38] it was a very fruitful discussion. I
[23:40] attended the Juneteenth flag raising
[23:42] ceremony here at City Hall and
[23:44] participated in the Juneteenth
[23:45] celebration
[23:46] um
[23:47] that was hosted by Women of Color at Dot
[23:48] Sky Park.
[23:50] And I also attended the Marine Officer
[23:53] um Comm Course graduation.
[23:56] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[23:57] >> Thank you.
[23:58] » Thank you.
[23:58] All right. [sighs]
[24:01] So, I started out with uh went to the
[24:02] Victorville for the Mountain Desert uh
[24:04] Measure I meeting. Our city engineer, he
[24:07] uh hit them up to uh come up with
[24:09] another $180,000 from Measure I money
[24:12] for the bridge that's going across uh
[24:13] Split Rock, so that was a good thing
[24:15] because it cuz the development of needed
[24:17] more. Um went to the Kiwanis 43rd annual
[24:22] pancake breakfast.
[24:23] And also was at the meeting uh Mayor Pro
[24:26] Tem and city manager and the community
[24:27] development director for the tiny homes.
[24:29] It was very educational with that.
[24:31] Interesting. Also attended the
[24:33] Juneteenth uh flag raising in front and
[24:35] also at Dot Sky Park for the uh Women of
[24:38] Global of Global Color.
[24:40] Um yesterday was the uh Mojave Desert
[24:43] Air Quality um
[24:44] Air District um pretty exciting news for
[24:47] the city of Barstow. They're getting a
[24:49] $4 billion rail transfer station that's
[24:52] going to be built It's going to get
[24:54] ready to get started. Took them 6 years
[24:55] to get this pushed through.
[24:57] Um the air quality board there was uh
[25:00] very instrumental in helping them
[25:01] getting through the all the sequa and um
[25:04] environmental stuff through the state.
[25:06] And they also were the only ones that
[25:07] have been able to get to the um
[25:09] governor's pass on the um um 149. So,
[25:13] it's a it's going to be a really big
[25:15] project for um for this uh rail. They're
[25:17] going to have partial diesel, but it's
[25:20] also going to have some electric. They
[25:21] don't have the technology yet to do a
[25:22] totally electric train yet. But it is I
[25:25] guess they're working on that. It's
[25:27] They're estimated that they're going to
[25:28] get 15,000 jobs out of that. Pars Both
[25:31] part-time and full-time. And these are
[25:33] not These are union jobs. These aren't
[25:35] going to These aren't um jobs that just
[25:37] people They can make a living off doing
[25:39] this.
[25:40] And uh the city's going to make a pretty
[25:42] big windfall. But I did We got a little
[25:43] bit of education. I'll I'll be brief.
[25:45] But the stuff used to go off the boat at
[25:48] in Long Beach, get shipped to the Inland
[25:50] Empire, get split up at warehouses. What
[25:52] needed to go back to the coast would get
[25:54] shipped back on rail to or by the truck
[25:57] back to LA, get on a train in LA, and
[26:00] then go back to Barstow, and then out of
[26:02] the state. Now it's going to go directly
[26:04] The whole thing will go from rail rail
[26:06] railroad from Long Beach to Barstow, get
[26:10] split up, and then go in the directions
[26:12] it needs to go. It's going to cut
[26:14] 800,000
[26:15] truck routes out. So, it's going to be
[26:19] very significant with air quality.
[26:21] That's why the um
[26:22] um Mojave Desert Air Quality was so
[26:24] involved in it because obviously the
[26:26] more cars you take off the road, the
[26:27] more pollution there isn't. So, anyway,
[26:29] that was pretty exciting news for
[26:30] Barstow. And uh the air quality board
[26:32] that I'm on was um helped them a lot
[26:34] over the last 6 years. So, anyway.
[26:39] Okay, let's move on to consent calendar.
[26:42] All men
[26:47] See, I got to I got to highlight it just
[26:48] like I did this. Now I'll I'll that. I'm
[26:50] sorry. I apologize, Mr. City Manager.
[26:52] >> No problem at all.
[26:53] » No problem at all.
[26:53] >> the second time we did this, so.
[26:55] » the second time we did this, so.
[26:55] >> Uh
[26:56] » Uh
[26:56] so, I I have a couple updates.
[26:59] One I wanted to mention uh
[27:01] as as Councilmember Ramirez said, we'll
[27:04] be doing renovations here in the Council
[27:06] Chambers starting tomorrow and hopefully
[27:09] have them completed or at least
[27:10] functionally complete by our July 14th
[27:12] meeting.
[27:13] Um what that means is in this coming
[27:16] month our Planning Commission meetings
[27:18] are probably going to be canceled and
[27:20] maybe a few other meetings. I'm not sure
[27:22] about
[27:23] Tbid and
[27:25] the
[27:26] public
[27:27] arts advisory
[27:28] um council. So, um but
[27:31] we'll be making those announcements as
[27:33] as they come up.
[27:35] Uh
[27:36] secondly, I wanted to remind everybody
[27:39] or let everybody know that
[27:42] here in Twentynine Palms our cooling
[27:43] center is the senior center.
[27:46] It's at 6539 Adobe Road.
[27:49] Um we
[27:51] don't always open it, but when the heat
[27:54] index gets up to 110° we'll be opening
[27:57] the cooling center. Now, that doesn't
[27:59] mean it has to be 110° outside. What it
[28:02] means is it could be
[28:03] you know, 98, but with the humidity
[28:06] could take it up to 110 index.
[28:09] Um that is lower than what we've done in
[28:11] the past. In the In the past we've had
[28:13] 115°
[28:14] heat index where we open that, but we'll
[28:17] open it and it'll stay open until it
[28:19] gets cooler.
[28:20] Um and we'll use, just for everybody's
[28:23] information, we'll use the weather
[28:24] information from the National Weather
[28:26] Service to to make those determinations.
[28:28] So,
[28:30] your phone may say say something
[28:31] different, but we're using the National
[28:33] Weather Service, so.
[28:35] Um
[28:36] Thirdly, I'd like to inform everybody
[28:40] that um
[28:41] on Thursday, June 25th, the San
[28:43] Bernardino County Sheriff's Department
[28:44] is is a blood drive and that's at the
[28:47] sheriff the sheriff's
[28:49] um
[28:50] station out in Joshua Tree.
[28:52] Uh 63665
[28:54] Twentynine Palms Highway in Joshua Tree.
[28:56] So, um
[28:58] come on out and donate blood. It's
[29:00] always needed.
[29:02] Uh at great 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
[29:05] Thank you.
[29:09] Uh
[29:11] fourthly, I will make the announcement
[29:12] that the nomination period for anyone
[29:15] wanting to run for City Council begins
[29:17] on July 13th and ends on August 6th.
[29:21] If you're interested, please call uh the
[29:23] City Hall and make an appointment with
[29:25] our City Clerk Cindy Viascas
[29:27] and she'll get you set up with the
[29:28] procedure and all the nomination
[29:30] requirements and campaign rules and
[29:33] fundraising rules. And she'll uh set you
[29:36] up with with all that. So, but you need
[29:38] to call make an appointment with her.
[29:41] It ends on August 6th, which is uh it's
[29:44] actually a Thursday, uh but the uh
[29:47] uh
[29:48] we'll be submitting everything to the
[29:50] registrar of voters after that.
[29:54] Um fifth,
[29:56] I I would like to uh announce that the
[29:58] Great Race is coming to Twentynine
[30:00] Palms.
[30:01] And uh what that is,
[30:04] um it's called the Hemmings Great Race
[30:06] presented by Coker Tires. It's a 9-day
[30:08] classic car rally that spends uh spans
[30:11] more than 2,300 mi and features 120 of
[30:14] the world's finest antique automobiles.
[30:17] It's hosted um the event is uses a new
[30:20] route each year and features 17 hosted
[30:23] city stops along the way, including a
[30:25] hosted stop in Twentynine Palms.
[30:28] Is this Saturday, June 27th,
[30:30] um from 11:00 to 3:00 uh 11:30 to 3:00,
[30:34] I think. Um
[30:36] uh for 2026, the Great Race is
[30:38] celebrating the 100th anniversary of the
[30:40] Mother Road with a Route 66 themed event
[30:43] that starts in Springfield, Illinois on
[30:46] Saturday, June 20th and ends in Pasadena
[30:49] on Sunday, June 28th with many historic
[30:51] towns and attractions along the way.
[30:53] So, that's down in Luckie Park from
[30:55] 11:30 to 3:00. And they have food
[30:58] vendors and family-friendly activities
[31:00] going on. And you get you can get up and
[31:03] see the cars
[31:05] up close as they come in. So, it's a be
[31:07] a great family event. Um if you they're
[31:11] they're currently seeking volunteers. If
[31:12] you want to get involved in something,
[31:14] you can call the
[31:15] Park and Recreation Department at
[31:17] 760-367-7562
[31:20] extension 1025.
[31:23] And they'll
[31:24] they'll set you up on if you want to
[31:26] volunteer for that.
[31:29] And uh
[31:30] right on the heels of that, we have the
[31:32] 4th of July. The city of Twentynine
[31:34] Palms Park and Recreation Department
[31:36] invites residents and visitors to ring
[31:38] in Independence Day at a free 4th of
[31:40] July celebration on Saturday, July 4th,
[31:43] 2026 from 6:00 to 10:00 p.m. at Knott
[31:46] Sky Park.
[31:47] Uh in honor of the 250th anniversary of
[31:50] the United States of America, the
[31:51] Kiwanis Club of Twentynine Palms will
[31:53] share a special reading of the
[31:55] Declaration of Independence, which will
[31:57] be pretty cool.
[31:58] Um the evening offers family
[32:01] family-friendly fun
[32:03] capped off by a fireworks show.
[32:05] Fireworks viewing party is the show
[32:07] lights up the sky over nearby Tortoise
[32:09] Rock Casino.
[32:11] Um there'll be some water slides and a
[32:13] photo booth and some other food vendors
[32:14] and stuff out there. Be a fun time. So,
[32:16] everybody should come out to Knott Sky
[32:18] Park for the 4th of July.
[32:21] Um and finally, one more thing I wanted
[32:23] to give a shout-out to our code
[32:25] enforcement team.
[32:27] They completed a cleanup of a
[32:30] a house in the
[32:31] Sherman Hoyt property. And they removed
[32:34] over 1,000 tires out of that property
[32:37] and um and several tons of trash. So, um
[32:41] I mean, it's something they've been
[32:42] working on for a while. These things
[32:44] take a while, but I just want to give
[32:45] shout out to them cuz it was a great
[32:47] cleanup.
[32:48] That's all I have.
[32:50] >> Thank you. Any questions for the city
[32:51] » Thank you. Any questions for the city
[32:51] manager?
[32:52] >> Okay, I see none.
[32:53] » Okay, I see none.
[32:53] >> Ma'am, did you have a uh comment
[32:55] » Ma'am, did you have a uh comment
[32:55] request? Bring it up Cindy real
[32:57] No worries.
[32:58] >> Okay.
[32:59] » Okay.
[32:59] Consent calendar, all matters listed in
[33:01] the consent calendar to be considered
[33:02] routine by the city council and will be
[33:04] enacted by one motion from the form
[33:05] listed. Any form may be removed from the
[33:07] consent calendar and considered
[33:08] separately by the city council.
[33:10] The public will be given an opportunity
[33:11] to comment on consent calendar items
[33:14] prior to the city council action. Does
[33:15] anybody want any items pulled from the
[33:20] consent calendar? It looks like we got
[33:21] one.
[33:24] Okay. See I don't Okay. All right, so
[33:26] I'm going to open this to the public. I
[33:27] have one slip for item number seven.
[33:30] Uh Carlos?
[33:32] Landon?
[33:37] » Hi, Carlos Landon.
[33:38] Um
[33:40] I I approve the Hatch Road and Sullivan
[33:42] Road bike path project for contracting
[33:44] section. Over the past months, I joined
[33:45] a rapidly growing bicycle community
[33:47] called the Basin Bike Path. This local
[33:49] organization is run by Eric Liner. Great
[33:51] guy. Uh and I also had the opportunity
[33:53] to meet an emerging uh high desert
[33:54] bicycle shop called the Gypsy Cycle. Uh
[33:57] this this indicates a significant demand
[33:59] for cycling in the high desert area.
[34:01] However, we are concerned about the
[34:02] unsafe roads and sandy river paths that
[34:04] hinder a healthy and safe in cycling
[34:05] experience.
[34:07] Therefore, securing funding and approval
[34:08] for a more cycling infrastructure will
[34:10] greatly benefit the city of Twentynine
[34:11] Palms. Thank you.
[34:12] >> Thank you.
[34:13] » Thank you.
[34:13] Okay. I have no [clears throat] other
[34:14] slips. Bring it back to council.
[34:17] Looking for a motion.
[34:20] » I move to consent calendar.
[34:22] >> Second.
[34:23] » Second.
[34:23] >> I have a motion and a second. Any
[34:24] » I have a motion and a second. Any
[34:25] further discussion? Seeing none. Roll
[34:27] call vote, please.
[34:29] >> Councilwoman Ramirez?
[34:30] » Councilwoman Ramirez?
[34:30] >> Aye.
[34:30] » Aye.
[34:30] >> Councilmember Wright?
[34:31] » Councilmember Wright?
[34:31] >> Aye.
[34:32] » Aye.
[34:32] >> Councilmember Buildering?
[34:33] » Councilmember Buildering?
[34:33] >> Aye.
[34:33] » Aye.
[34:34] >> Mayor pro tem Scott
[34:35] » Mayor pro tem Scott
[34:35] Mayor Mints.
[34:38] >> Okay, no items were removed. So we got
[34:40] » Okay, no items were removed. So we got
[34:40] public hearing number 14 proposed budget
[34:42] revisions for the special revenue funds
[34:44] of capital project funds and successor
[34:46] agency fund for the fiscal year 2026-27
[34:50] and this does not include project
[34:52] Phoenix funds.
[34:56] I'll be good.
[34:57] >> Thank you. Good evening Mr. Mayor
[34:59] » Thank you. Good evening Mr. Mayor
[34:59] council members members of this
[35:00] community.
[35:06] Let me test it first.
[35:08] Okay, perfect.
[35:09] Okay, so tonight I'll be presenting the
[35:11] budget revisions to the special revenue
[35:14] funds capital project funds and
[35:16] successor agency fund for fiscal year
[35:18] 26-27.
[35:19] And to give you a little bit of a
[35:21] context I would like to start by
[35:23] providing
[35:24] an overview of the city's fund
[35:26] structure.
[35:27] And
[35:29] in government accounting a fund is
[35:31] defined as a fiscal and accounting
[35:34] entity with a self-balancing set of
[35:36] accounts
[35:37] segregated for the purpose of carrying
[35:39] on a specific activities or complying
[35:41] with special regulations, restrictions
[35:43] or limitations. The city has a total of
[35:46] 18 funds which fall under one of
[35:50] the categories listed on this table.
[35:53] The city has one general fund which is
[35:54] the city's chief operating fund and the
[35:57] budget revisions to that but to that
[35:59] fund were approved on May 26th of this
[36:02] year.
[36:04] In terms of special revenue funds this
[36:06] funds are established by city council or
[36:08] other agencies to collect money that
[36:10] must be used for specific project or
[36:13] purposes.
[36:14] This funds provide an extra level of
[36:16] accountability and transparency to
[36:18] taxpayers and or ratepayers that their
[36:20] tax dollars will go towards an intended
[36:22] purpose.
[36:24] In terms of capital project funds this
[36:26] funds account for financial uh,
[36:28] resources used to um, used for the
[36:30] acquisition of major um,
[36:34] capital facilities and other capital
[36:35] related projects other than those
[36:38] financed in the proprietary fund types.
[36:41] Uh, proprietary funds are used by
[36:42] government entities to account for
[36:44] activities that are similar to business
[36:46] type uh, type activities. These funds
[36:49] are used when government provides
[36:50] services to public or other government
[36:53] agencies on a cost reimbursement basis.
[36:55] Proprietary funds are categorized into
[36:57] two main types, enterprise funds or
[36:59] internal service funds.
[37:01] And uh, fiduciary fiduciary funds
[37:04] account for resources that are held in a
[37:06] trustee or agency capacity for others
[37:09] and cannot be used to support the city's
[37:11] own programs.
[37:13] Fiduciary funds account for are are
[37:15] categorized into four types, pension and
[37:18] other post-employment benefit trust
[37:21] funds, investment trust funds, private
[37:23] purpose trust funds, and custodial
[37:24] funds.
[37:25] Um, this chart shows all of the funds
[37:28] that uh, the city has. As I mentioned,
[37:30] we have one general fund. Uh, we do have
[37:33] um, 10 special revenue funds which
[37:35] include the CDBG fund, uh, the newly um,
[37:38] added Elm Avenue project fund, um, gas
[37:41] tax fund, um, measure I fund, um, and
[37:45] other funds as listed on that table. We
[37:47] also have uh, five capital project
[37:49] funds, one enterprise fund, and one
[37:51] private purpose trust fund.
[37:55] Um,
[37:56] for
[37:58] um,
[37:58] today's presentation will be focusing on
[38:01] the special revenue funds and capital
[38:03] project funds with exclusion of project
[38:05] fund
[38:06] Project Phoenix funds and the sewer
[38:08] fund.
[38:09] Um,
[38:11] let's see.
[38:13] The number of city funds that um,
[38:15] the city manages on a given year
[38:18] varies depending on funding availability
[38:21] or um,
[38:22] changes in regulations as was the case
[38:25] with Article 8 funding
[38:27] which was terminated back in fiscal year
[38:29] 21-22 when the state redirected those
[38:32] funds to transit agencies instead of
[38:35] municipalities.
[38:39] A total 14.2 million dollars in
[38:41] expenditures and transfers out has been
[38:43] budgeted for fiscal year 26-27
[38:47] of which 11.4 million dollars will be
[38:49] funded with revenues and transfers in
[38:51] received through the special revenue
[38:53] funds and capital project funds.
[38:55] There are no budget revisions to the
[38:57] successor agency fund.
[39:02] So for the revenues and transfers in
[39:05] sources received through this funds that
[39:07] I just mentioned we have tax revenue
[39:10] grants fees and other revenue like
[39:14] like
[39:16] interest revenue and also transfers in
[39:18] from the general fund.
[39:22] Some of the tax revenue sources that we
[39:24] get are from the road maintenance and
[39:27] rehabilitation account program
[39:30] the gas tax and measure I funding as I
[39:33] mentioned we'll receive a total of
[39:35] 2.2 million dollars in fiscal year 26-27
[39:39] and the funding for those um
[39:42] and the sources for those funds are very
[39:44] restrictive. We cannot use them for
[39:48] other projects that have not been
[39:51] previously approved by either SBCTA or
[39:54] the funding agency.
[39:56] And this is just the history for the gas
[40:00] tax and the RMRA funding over a period
[40:03] of nine years
[40:05] for fiscal year 26-27 RMRA funding is
[40:08] projected to increase by 6% and gas tax
[40:11] is projected to increase by only 2%. So
[40:14] not not a lot not a big increase there.
[40:20] Um for RMRA funds, we
[40:24] submitted
[40:25] the request for funding for fiscal year
[40:27] 2026-2027.
[40:29] Uh and we our project and the list um of
[40:33] streets provided here was approved. And
[40:37] so this is the list of projects that
[40:40] list of roads that we have to overlay in
[40:42] the upcoming fiscal year.
[40:46] Uh for major capital project funds, we
[40:49] have a total about $13.3 million
[40:53] and that includes street projects,
[40:55] parks, safety,
[40:57] uh and other projects.
[41:01] A total of about $1.2 million will be
[41:04] used to overlay streets within the city.
[41:07] $854,000
[41:09] for street repairs and maintenance
[41:10] projects. Uh $501,000 for the SR62
[41:15] street improvement phase 2B project.
[41:17] $150,000
[41:19] for street improvements throughout the
[41:21] city and $90,000 for curb, gutter, and
[41:24] sidewalk projects.
[41:26] In terms of
[41:28] parks projects, we have two main ones,
[41:30] which is the CDY Channel Trail and
[41:32] that's $477,000
[41:34] and that's just for the design. We
[41:36] haven't received the approval of funding
[41:39] for the construction phase. Um and
[41:42] $341,000
[41:43] for like park improvements through the
[41:46] CDBG program.
[41:49] And in terms of safety projects, we have
[41:51] two main ones, the Split Rock Bridge,
[41:54] which will be funded with grants from
[41:57] SBCTA and Caltrans.
[41:59] And that's projected at $4.2 million.
[42:01] That's just the construction phase and
[42:04] project management cost. Uh and then the
[42:07] Hatch Sullivan bike path, which is
[42:09] estimated at $3.7 million.
[42:13] For other projects, we have the uh
[42:15] design for the new animal shelter uh for
[42:17] $589,000
[42:19] and also $178,000
[42:22] and for the animal control building
[42:24] upgrades.
[42:25] Um those fundings have been approved in
[42:28] prior years, but we haven't utilized all
[42:30] the funding, so we continue to carry
[42:32] over those funds until the project gets
[42:35] completed. Um we are projecting or
[42:37] proposing uh $226,000
[42:40] for re-roof um of city owned buildings
[42:43] and $196,000 for improvements at the
[42:47] senior center.
[42:49] So, the recommendation for tonight, we
[42:51] have three. Uh
[42:53] Uh and the recommendation is for city
[42:54] council to approve the resolution
[42:56] adopting the budget revisions for the
[42:58] special revenue funds, capital project
[43:00] funds, and the successor agency fund
[43:02] for fiscal year '26-'27 and approve the
[43:05] interfund transfers for that same year.
[43:07] Um $10,000 from the gas tax fund to the
[43:10] general fund,
[43:11] $28,000 from the Measure I fund to the
[43:14] general fund, and $27,040
[43:17] from the successor agency fund to the
[43:19] general fund. And those are just to
[43:20] cover administrative costs associated
[43:22] with managing that those funds. Um the
[43:25] other change um is in terms of the
[43:28] '25-'26 budget, there were a couple of
[43:31] adjustments that needed to be made for
[43:32] that budget um that were not known at
[43:36] the time I brought the mid-year budget
[43:38] adjustment back in February of this
[43:40] year. So, we have uh few adjustments to
[43:43] the general capital projects fund, and
[43:45] um we are also establishing uh the Elm
[43:48] Avenue project fund in fiscal year
[43:50] '25-'26 and its corresponding budget.
[43:54] And I'm open for any questions.
[43:57] >> Okay. Anybody have any questions?
[43:59] » Okay. Anybody have any questions?
[43:59] I do have one question about the Elm
[44:01] project. Um I The other ones we Do you
[44:03] have an administrative fee? So, after
[44:05] you establish that is in the budget,
[44:07] you'll do an administrative fee for
[44:08] that?
[44:09] >> Um I'm I'm allocating
[44:11] » Um I'm I'm allocating
[44:11] uh 10% of uh staff time um to that fund
[44:15] because we are going to spend time, you
[44:17] know, collecting
[44:18] >> I Yeah, I didn't see the line item.
[44:19] » I Yeah, I didn't see the line item.
[44:19] >> I'm not doing it as a transfer, but more
[44:21] » I'm not doing it as a transfer, but more
[44:21] like a direct allocation of city staff
[44:23] time.
[44:24] >> And that'll be in the own budget. Okay.
[44:26] » And that'll be in the own budget. Okay.
[44:26] >> Great.
[44:28] » Great.
[44:28] Okay.
[44:29] Please wait.
[44:30] Okay. So, any other questions for staff?
[44:33] >> Um yes, Mr. Mayor. Um I noticed that
[44:35] » Um yes, Mr. Mayor. Um I noticed that
[44:36] there was a and there um the capital
[44:37] projects fund, there was $45,000
[44:40] allocated for city hall structure.
[44:43] Um
[44:44] at one point, I believe we had a
[44:44] discussion that maybe is are we talking
[44:46] about the front of city hall?
[44:48] >> Yeah, we haven't really received
[44:51] » Yeah, we haven't really received
[44:51] direction as to what we want to do with
[44:53] those funds. I mean, I'm I'm putting it
[44:55] there because the
[44:57] project hasn't been completed and we
[44:58] still have the funds. So, if you decide
[45:01] to in the future reallocate those funds,
[45:04] you can
[45:05] uh and we'll just change the description
[45:07] or reallocate those funds to a different
[45:10] account, but it's definitely there. Um
[45:13] but if the city hall structure is not
[45:16] something that city council wants to do,
[45:17] we can definitely have that discussion
[45:19] and make
[45:20] >> change the what we're going to do with
[45:21] » change the what we're going to do with
[45:21] the money.
[45:22] >> But we do we we don't want to do it,
[45:23] » But we do we we don't want to do it,
[45:23] right?
[45:24] >> We have we haven't decided that. We
[45:25] » We have we haven't decided that. We
[45:25] That's the whole It's been in limbo.
[45:27] >> All right.
[45:28] » All right.
[45:28] >> We we stopped it from going any further
[45:30] » We we stopped it from going any further
[45:30] like a year ago, maybe 2 years ago, and
[45:33] we just haven't dis- hasn't been brought
[45:34] up since.
[45:36] >> Thank you very much, Abigail.
[45:37] » Thank you very much, Abigail.
[45:37] >> No problem.
[45:37] » No problem.
[45:37] >> Thank you.
[45:38] » Thank you.
[45:38] Okay, now I'm going to open the public
[45:40] hearing,
[45:41] and do I have any slips for the public
[45:43] hearing for this item on the agenda?
[45:46] Okay. You Ma'am, you had a question, but
[45:49] you didn't put a slip in. Do you have a
[45:50] question?
[45:51] >> I had a slip, but I just I didn't know
[45:54] » I had a slip, but I just I didn't know
[45:54] who this person is, and I was just
[45:56] curious, but they told me you're the
[45:58] city treasurer.
[45:59] >> Yes.
[46:00] » Yes.
[46:00] Finance director, yes, ma'am. Okay. I
[46:02] didn't mean to cut you off, but I have
[46:03] to do it in order. Okay. Thank you.
[46:07] Okay. So, we got um no slips and nobody
[46:10] coming up, so we're going to close the
[46:11] public hearing and come back to this
[46:13] council discussion.
[46:16] >> When do we get to
[46:17] » When do we get to
[46:17] Sorry, interrupting again.
[46:20] When do So, I put in one of those green
[46:22] slips, when do I get to ask questions?
[46:24] >> When the item comes up.
[46:25] » When the item comes up.
[46:25] >> Yeah, what is the item?
[46:27] » Yeah, what is the item?
[46:27] >> Number 16.
[46:28] » Number 16.
[46:28] >> When item 16 comes up.
[46:29] » When item 16 comes up.
[46:29] >> Okay.
[46:30] » Okay.
[46:30] >> We'll call you then.
[46:31] » We'll call you then.
[46:31] >> All right.
[46:32] » All right.
[46:32] >> Okay.
[46:33] » Okay.
[46:33] Do we have questions for Abigail?
[46:35] >> I have a
[46:36] » I have a
[46:36] a couple and then I'll
[46:40] Ms. Abigail,
[46:41] when I'm looking at your presentation,
[46:43] which was a great presentation, by the
[46:45] way. Um
[46:46] I notice a lot of our projects are being
[46:49] funded through Measure I funding.
[46:52] >> Um
[46:53] » Um
[46:53] not the project, the actual construction
[46:56] phase, but the project management. So,
[46:59] things that um like for example, we hire
[47:01] a consultant and currently we have
[47:03] Charles Abbott and Associates doing a
[47:05] lot of the project management. So, like
[47:07] Richard Patterson, right? So, he's
[47:09] spending time on these projects like
[47:11] Split Rock Bridge.
[47:13] But, for grants, um you only get a
[47:16] certain percentage for project
[47:19] management costs. So,
[47:21] we have to um find other sources to be
[47:24] able to fund to be able to fund that the
[47:27] cost, because otherwise it will come out
[47:29] of um the general fund money.
[47:32] >> So, is it safe to say that Measure I
[47:34] » So, is it safe to say that Measure I
[47:34] funding is not a long-term
[47:36] sustainability, financially sustainable
[47:38] solution for all the projects that we
[47:40] want?
[47:42] >> Well, Measure I funding is very
[47:44] » Well, Measure I funding is very
[47:44] restrictive. Um so, if the funding is
[47:49] not available, then we have to find
[47:50] other sources. I I do have to say that
[47:53] recently um
[47:54] the city manager brought, I don't know
[47:56] if it was presented as a consent item,
[47:58] but
[47:59] measure a representative from SBCTA
[48:02] requested a letter of support for
[48:05] measure I funding to be extended because
[48:08] um
[48:09] the current
[48:10] funding is available through um 2040.
[48:14] And the city council approved um a
[48:17] letter of uh support to increase the
[48:22] uh funding availability. I can't
[48:24] remember for how many more years. So
[48:26] >> no, they want to make it a sunset. The
[48:28] » no, they want to make it a sunset. The
[48:28] SBCTA wants to make it a sunset measure.
[48:30] It's to be on the November ballot. Make
[48:33] it sunset. And the if it's they if the
[48:34] voters vote that in, then it'll just be
[48:37] unless somebody puts it back on the
[48:38] ballot to to end it. So in other words,
[48:41] right now what the way the funding
[48:42] works, we uh SBCTA has they'll do major
[48:46] big projects like hundreds of million
[48:47] dollar projects and they'll get bonds
[48:49] for those and so they have to plan for
[48:52] them like years ahead. So when if the
[48:53] funding ends in 2040, they have to stop
[48:55] planning for this stuff and then so
[48:57] that's why they want to make it a sunset
[48:59] because every time they put this on the
[49:00] ballot, it it passes by 80%. Because the
[49:03] money it stays in San Bernardino County
[49:05] and it is it is get gets spent um very
[49:08] well. I mean, they there's
[49:10] it's um it's it's a well well well-run
[49:13] organization.
[49:14] >> So I would
[49:15] » So I would
[49:15] >> I have I have faith in them. I guess
[49:16] » I have I have faith in them. I guess
[49:16] what what I'm saying is measure I is not
[49:19] a secure funding that we can count on
[49:21] forever and ever and it will not
[49:23] >> None of the fundings from the special
[49:25] » None of the fundings from the special
[49:25] revenue funds are secure.
[49:27] >> Are secure funding?
[49:28] » Are secure funding?
[49:29] >> No, none of them are. A clear example
[49:31] » No, none of them are. A clear example
[49:31] that I mentioned was the Article 8
[49:32] funding. So Article 8 funding used to
[49:35] fund about 50% of public works salaries
[49:38] and benefits. When that funding went
[49:41] away was um fiscal year 21-22.
[49:44] Um the state reallocated the Article 8
[49:47] funding um to transit agencies. So what
[49:50] the city had to do is absorb the funding
[49:54] of the salaries and benefits, you know,
[49:56] that 50% essentially. So,
[49:58] none of the special revenue funds or the
[50:00] capital project funds
[50:02] funds are secure. Like, there's no
[50:06] you know, in perpetuity funding, if you
[50:08] will.
[50:09] >> Got you. Okay. I'm going to hold off on
[50:11] » Got you. Okay. I'm going to hold off on
[50:11] my other one. Go ahead, Matt.
[50:15] Then I have one more question. I was
[50:16] trying to figure out how to word this.
[50:18] Um
[50:19] around slide three or four, you said a
[50:21] very specific
[50:23] statement, which was completion of these
[50:26] projects depends on funding
[50:28] availability.
[50:30] We've seen
[50:32] I've seen that through the state,
[50:33] sometimes projects that we think should
[50:36] be done like that, um take 12 to 15
[50:38] years to be done.
[50:40] And if this was, you know, if let's just
[50:42] say for example, using Measure I, let's
[50:43] say the voters don't vote for it this
[50:45] time, and it does close in 2040.
[50:48] And our project isn't going to be
[50:50] complete. That's 15 years. Let's say we
[50:52] need more time, or something goes wrong,
[50:53] or the state pushes in new mandates,
[50:55] right?
[50:59] Where does that money come from?
[51:01] To complete the projects if we don't
[51:03] have it.
[51:04] >> Well, it depends, you know, we have
[51:06] » Well, it depends, you know, we have
[51:06] other funding sources. It's There's a
[51:09] lot of what ifs in that in that
[51:10] question, but
[51:12] I mean, worst case scenario, it'll come
[51:14] out of the general fund, or the city
[51:17] council can decide to abandon that
[51:19] project. I mean, it's happened in the
[51:21] past, where for example, the the city's
[51:24] waste water project, it was
[51:26] believe the funding original funding
[51:28] sources that was promised to the city
[51:30] was over 159
[51:32] million dollars, then when the state you
[51:35] know, when it was all said and done, the
[51:37] funding was like cut down to 50 million
[51:39] dollars. So, city council recognized
[51:41] that there was no way
[51:43] that the city could continue to fund
[51:45] that project. So, yes, the up to the
[51:48] design phase, the costs were funded by
[51:51] the grants.
[51:52] Then we just decided to abandon the
[51:54] project and there's nothing wrong with
[51:56] with that. I mean, it's just, you know,
[51:58] we move on until we get more funding um
[52:01] available. But, that doesn't mean that
[52:03] when you start project you have to
[52:05] finish it if you don't have funding.
[52:06] It's just not fiscally responsible to do
[52:08] so.
[52:09] >> Correct.
[52:09] » Correct.
[52:09] >> It I would add to that that it doesn't
[52:12] » It I would add to that that it doesn't
[52:12] even have to be something catastrophic
[52:14] that that stops the funding, but simply
[52:16] the rising cost of these projects um
[52:19] affects how much project we can get. So,
[52:22] you know, for we're talking about some
[52:24] road projects and that kind of stuff
[52:25] here.
[52:26] Price of oil goes up, which we're all
[52:28] seeing right now.
[52:29] $6 a gallon for gasoline, well, that
[52:31] affects the price of asphalt. And so, um
[52:34] as these prices go up, these funding
[52:36] mechanisms generally don't.
[52:40] » So, in in your professional opinion,
[52:43] what do you think needs to happen
[52:45] in order to make sure that we don't have
[52:47] to abandon projects? Cuz I'm not going
[52:48] to start something and not finish it.
[52:51] Um what would you say financially is the
[52:53] most
[52:55] sustainable option long-term?
[52:57] >> Well, it just depends. It's It's You
[53:00] » Well, it just depends. It's It's You
[53:00] really have to treat each project on a
[53:02] case-by-case basis. I can't answer
[53:05] something like that.
[53:07] It has to be very project-specific, but
[53:10] again, abandoning the project is one
[53:12] option, and then the other is um looking
[53:15] for additional funding sources, grants,
[53:18] you know.
[53:20] Those are mainly the the two options.
[53:23] >> Potentially the
[53:24] » Potentially the
[53:25] the tax measure that we're going to talk
[53:26] about, item 16.
[53:29] >> Thank you, sir.
[53:32] » Okay, nobody else? I'll look for motion.
[53:34] >> What number?
[53:38] Okay, I'll make a motion that we approve
[53:41] resolution number 2620 adopting the
[53:43] budget revision for special revenue
[53:45] funds
[53:47] um excluding Project Phoenix funds,
[53:50] capital project funds, and successor
[53:52] agency fund for fiscal year 2627.
[53:56] Also interfund transfer for fiscal year
[53:59] 2627
[54:01] for 10,000
[54:03] from the gas tax fund to the general
[54:05] fund for admin fees, 20,000 from the
[54:08] measure I fund to the general fund for
[54:11] admin fees, 27,040
[54:13] dollars for
[54:15] from the successor agency fund to the
[54:18] general fund for admin fees,
[54:21] and changes to the fiscal year 2526
[54:25] budget for the following funds
[54:27] amendments
[54:28] to the general capital fund project fund
[54:31] and establishment and adoption of the
[54:33] new Elm Avenue project fund and related
[54:36] budget.
[54:37] >> Second.
[54:38] » Second.
[54:38] >> Okay, I have a motion and a second. Any
[54:39] » Okay, I have a motion and a second. Any
[54:39] further discussion?
[54:41] >> Can I ask I read all that?
[54:44] » Can I ask I read all that?
[54:44] >> Roll call vote, please.
[54:46] » Roll call vote, please.
[54:46] >> Councilmember Wright?
[54:47] » Councilmember Wright?
[54:47] >> I.
[54:48] » I.
[54:48] >> Councilmember Beltran?
[54:49] » Councilmember Beltran?
[54:49] >> I.
[54:49] » I.
[54:49] >> Councilwoman Ramirez?
[54:50] » Councilwoman Ramirez?
[54:51] >> I.
[54:51] » I.
[54:51] >> Mayor pro tem Scott?
[54:52] » Mayor pro tem Scott?
[54:52] >> I.
[54:52] » I.
[54:52] >> Mayor Mints?
[54:53] » Mayor Mints?
[54:53] >> I.
[54:53] » I.
[54:53] >> Approved 5-0.
[54:54] » Approved 5-0.
[54:54] >> Thank you.
[54:56] » Thank you.
[54:56] Uh item number 15 is Pearl budget for
[54:57] revised Project Phoenix funds and
[54:59] enterprise fund for the fiscal year
[55:01] 2026-27 and I'll be abstaining from this
[55:04] and I'll be leaving the room.
[55:06] Mayor pro tem Scott?
[55:24] » Ready? Okay.
[55:26] Well, hello again. Um so moving on to
[55:30] the Project Phoenix funds and the
[55:32] enterprise fund, um this presentation is
[55:35] not too long. Um there's not much
[55:37] activity going on in this funds, but um
[55:40] just to provide an overview, the Project
[55:43] Phoenix funds account for the activities
[55:45] associated with the city's downtown
[55:48] revitalization project. And the sewer
[55:51] fund
[55:52] was created to account to account for
[55:54] the cost of providing sewer services to
[55:56] a limited number of businesses within
[55:57] the Freedom Plaza, as well as activities
[56:00] associated with the Project Phoenix
[56:02] package treatment plant.
[56:04] Um in terms of the Project Phoenix
[56:07] funds, as of today we have $204,000
[56:10] left from the $2.3 million previously
[56:12] committed for this project. And then
[56:15] there's also $1.1
[56:17] million from the housing bond proceeds,
[56:20] which uh this funds can only be be spent
[56:23] for affordable housing activities.
[56:25] And some of the projects that remain
[56:27] open for Project Phoenix, we have the
[56:30] business loan program for the storefront
[56:33] improvement
[56:35] um program, public art, street
[56:37] furniture, site improvements, and
[56:40] facility fixtures. And if you recall at
[56:44] the beginning of this year, City Council
[56:45] approved the reallocation of the $15,000
[56:48] um funds for the public art. There's the
[56:52] tile mural that was just presented
[56:54] today. And $18,000
[56:58] of that project will be funded by a
[57:02] grant from the City Council um
[57:05] from California Arts Council.
[57:08] In terms of the sewer fund, we have a
[57:10] couple of big projects that we're
[57:12] working on right now. We have the USGS
[57:14] study, and then we also have the package
[57:16] treatment plant. Um for the USGS study,
[57:20] it's going to be a 5-year study, and we
[57:23] currently have $1.9 million
[57:26] uh stack stack one and stack two, and
[57:29] also $200,000 contribution from um the
[57:33] 29 Palms uh Water District. We do have
[57:36] an um
[57:37] uh this project is underfunded by almost
[57:40] $99,000, but the city will be working
[57:43] closely with the 29 Palms uh Water
[57:45] District and also USGS to find uh or to
[57:49] implement cost-cutting measures to make
[57:51] sure that um we either eliminate or
[57:54] reduce this uh shortfall.
[57:58] And like I said, this is not a big
[58:00] presentation, but I am um requesting um
[58:04] the approval of the resolution to adopt
[58:07] the budget revisions for the Project
[58:09] Phoenix Funds and Enterprise Fund for
[58:11] fiscal year '26-'27 as well as the inner
[58:13] fund transfers for the general fund and
[58:16] the sewer fund for fiscal year '26-'27
[58:19] uh which includes $70,000 to subsidize
[58:21] the um sewer fund and $25,000 for a
[58:25] sewer fee study.
[58:27] >> Okay, let's open up public hearing.
[58:32] Any discussion?
[58:35] Any green slips?
[58:37] Okay, bring it back up here.
[58:40] Close public hearing.
[58:45] Okay, roll um roll call. I mean a
[58:48] motion. Looking for a motion.
[58:50] >> I make a motion.
[58:52] » I make a motion.
[58:52] I make a motion that we approve
[58:54] resolution number 26-21.
[58:56] >> All right, got it right. Approving the
[58:58] » All right, got it right. Approving the
[58:58] budget revision for Project Phoenix
[59:00] Funds and Enterprise Fund for fiscal
[59:02] year '26-'27
[59:04] and inner fund transfer from the general
[59:06] fund to the sewer fund for fiscal year
[59:09] '26-'27
[59:11] for 70,000 to subsidize the operating
[59:14] costs of this fund and 25,000 for a
[59:17] sewer rate study.
[59:18] >> Second.
[59:20] » Second.
[59:20] >> Okay, roll call.
[59:24] » Councilwoman Ramirez.
[59:25] >> I.
[59:26] » I.
[59:26] >> Council member Wright.
[59:27] » Council member Wright.
[59:27] >> I.
[59:27] » I.
[59:27] >> Councilman Billing.
[59:28] » Councilman Billing.
[59:29] >> I.
[59:29] » I.
[59:29] >> Mayor Pro Tem Scott.
[59:30] » Mayor Pro Tem Scott.
[59:30] >> I.
[59:31] » I.
[59:31] >> Mayor Mintz abstains.
[59:35] » Well, Mayor Mintz is coming back up. I
[59:37] just want to make a quick comment that
[59:40] USGS study is proceeding. I had a
[59:43] meeting with the USGS as well as our
[59:47] local water district and they're making
[59:48] progress on it. And that study hopefully
[59:51] for the public is going to help inform
[59:53] us as to when if ever we are going to
[59:57] need a a sewer system. And I think that
[1:00:00] that's
[1:00:01] going to be money well spent for this
[1:00:02] community.
[1:00:05] » Thank you.
[1:00:06] Okay, discussion potential action items.
[1:00:09] Number 16, update to the local sales tax
[1:00:11] ballot measure for November 3rd, 2026
[1:00:14] general election.
[1:00:16] Mr. City Manager.
[1:00:19] » Yeah, we want to bring this item forward
[1:00:21] again. We had had discussion at the last
[1:00:23] city council meeting and
[1:00:25] I I want to give the public every
[1:00:28] opportunity to participate in this in
[1:00:30] this conversation.
[1:00:33] There seemed to be maybe some confusion
[1:00:37] surrounding this and and I just want the
[1:00:39] public to understand that this is the
[1:00:42] council is putting this on the ballot
[1:00:44] for the voter to decide whether this is
[1:00:46] something that is good for Twentynine
[1:00:48] Palms. And I think it's important to
[1:00:51] note that that the council isn't
[1:00:52] imposing this
[1:00:54] this potential tax. The the citizens
[1:00:57] will vote on that.
[1:01:00] You know, we had earlier discussions
[1:01:01] about
[1:01:02] potential project shortfalls. Certainly
[1:01:05] our general service levels that we
[1:01:07] provide of roads,
[1:01:10] parks, animal [snorts] control, public
[1:01:12] safety are all concerns where the
[1:01:15] where where costs are going up and our
[1:01:18] revenues are staying flat. And try as we
[1:01:21] might, we're we're trying to increase
[1:01:23] our revenues at at every opportunity.
[1:01:26] But that's that's challenging also. And
[1:01:31] we're we're trying to be as frugal as we
[1:01:34] can in providing city services, but this
[1:01:38] sales tax measure
[1:01:40] will will go a long way towards helping
[1:01:42] us provide the services that the quality
[1:01:45] of life services that people expect of a
[1:01:48] city.
[1:01:49] There was polling that was done that
[1:01:51] that
[1:01:52] suggested that some of the main areas
[1:01:56] that um
[1:01:58] are important to people are public
[1:02:00] safety, of course, sheriff's contract.
[1:02:05] our animal control. We currently have an
[1:02:09] an aging building that is
[1:02:10] >> [snorts]
[1:02:12] » [snorts]
[1:02:12] >> dare I say uh
[1:02:14] » dare I say uh
[1:02:14] falling down around their ears and we're
[1:02:16] going to have to do something about it.
[1:02:19] up to and including if possible, you
[1:02:21] know, building a new one. Um and then
[1:02:25] we we always are in
[1:02:27] in the hunt to be able to maintain roads
[1:02:30] in the community and we just talked
[1:02:32] about some of those special funds that
[1:02:33] help fund roads. Um those those numbers
[1:02:37] are not going up, but our streets
[1:02:39] continue to take a beating here and both
[1:02:42] with our um flooding issues and just the
[1:02:46] nature of
[1:02:48] roads in this um extreme climates.
[1:02:51] One of the things that
[1:02:53] I point out when we talk about roads, we
[1:02:55] also are talking about flood control and
[1:02:58] that in our community, a lot of our um
[1:03:02] flood control channels end up being the
[1:03:03] roads. We try to direct the water onto
[1:03:06] the road to get it to the flood control
[1:03:09] the ultimate flood control channel. So
[1:03:11] um you know, when we when we talked
[1:03:13] about roads, we're also So, talking
[1:03:15] about our
[1:03:16] flood control and drainage here.
[1:03:20] and um
[1:03:22] and then of course
[1:03:24] we had a gentleman talk about our
[1:03:25] you know
[1:03:26] another area of quality of life and
[1:03:28] that's our parks and the implementation
[1:03:31] of biking trails and hiking trails here
[1:03:34] and it's certainly something that we we
[1:03:35] would like to provide the citizens
[1:03:38] citizenry
[1:03:39] with quality facilities in those areas
[1:03:42] too. So, these are these are the areas
[1:03:45] where
[1:03:46] um that that pulled high but I believe
[1:03:50] and I'll let you
[1:03:52] talk about this but I believe that
[1:03:53] they're also areas that the council
[1:03:55] consider very important
[1:03:57] and they're those are the places where
[1:04:00] this money would be spent.
[1:04:04] » Well, yes well speaking of grants and
[1:04:06] bike paths and walking paths the one we
[1:04:08] have along the drainage ditch right down
[1:04:11] from city hall here. You know, we were
[1:04:13] when you get asked for those grants they
[1:04:15] the the people with the grant money they
[1:04:17] expect you to put some some money into
[1:04:19] the to the race also and we have to put
[1:04:21] money up. I I don't I don't recall now
[1:04:24] it was I think it was at least $100,000
[1:04:26] but they put up another 100,000 or 200
[1:04:29] some thousand dollars but we have to put
[1:04:31] up some money to get these grants
[1:04:32] sometimes. So, it's just not free money
[1:04:34] all the time. Sometimes it's most of it
[1:04:36] is but 90% of the time we have to put in
[1:04:39] a percentage of the of the project. Like
[1:04:41] that bridge project we had to put in
[1:04:42] money for that
[1:04:44] but obviously the federal government
[1:04:45] paid for most of it.
[1:04:46] But it's
[1:04:48] but those are the kind of things if we
[1:04:49] don't put money into ourselves as a
[1:04:50] community then people are like well, you
[1:04:52] know, maybe they don't want it so bad.
[1:04:53] So,
[1:04:54] >> Additionally, additionally when it comes
[1:04:57] » Additionally, additionally when it comes
[1:04:57] to grants
[1:04:58] we as a staff have to manage those
[1:05:01] grants. So, there's always a cost to
[1:05:03] getting that money. Um and and lots of
[1:05:06] it's good money for specific uses but it
[1:05:09] does it does cost
[1:05:12] in in the way of staff time, sometimes
[1:05:14] property, those kinds of things. So, um
[1:05:17] there's always some kind of cost.
[1:05:18] >> We voted on, you know, using
[1:05:20] » We voted on, you know, using
[1:05:20] administrator money just in our budget
[1:05:22] just on tonight, so.
[1:05:24] Anybody got more comments for the city
[1:05:25] staff before we go to the public?
[1:05:27] >> Yeah, yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. Um
[1:05:30] » Yeah, yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. Um
[1:05:30] Um thank you, Mr. City Manager. I
[1:05:31] appreciate uh
[1:05:33] you know, that um
[1:05:35] you know, explaining how the tax system
[1:05:36] is going to work and that it goes on the
[1:05:38] ballot. Um I just want to add to um
[1:05:41] we have a lot of visitors that come to
[1:05:42] our city and, you know, a lot of my
[1:05:44] constituents, they do have I don't want
[1:05:46] to say a lot, but I've I've I've talked
[1:05:48] to, you know, many constituents who you
[1:05:51] know, they they're concerned about a 1%
[1:05:52] tax and
[1:05:54] um we understand that um
[1:05:56] there's a lot of I mean, there's a lot
[1:05:58] of services that we need in the city and
[1:05:59] a lot of infrastructure um that that
[1:06:01] needs to be maintained um and repaired.
[1:06:03] Um but a lot of the visitors that come
[1:06:05] to this city um they're also going to be
[1:06:07] paying into that tax. Um they're driving
[1:06:09] on our roads, um they stop at the gas
[1:06:12] station, they grab some food, they get
[1:06:14] some gas. Um and I think that's
[1:06:16] important, especially
[1:06:17] um in the in the economy that we live in
[1:06:19] right now where we have a lot of people
[1:06:21] who are online shopping. Um and
[1:06:24] unfortunately, um smaller cities like
[1:06:26] Twentynine Palms, we don't really get
[1:06:28] that revenue from online shopping. So,
[1:06:30] this is one opportunity for us to
[1:06:32] increase those revenues. And so, um
[1:06:35] again, it's not the city council or the
[1:06:36] city that's imposing that tax. Um this
[1:06:39] is for the voters to decide. And um I
[1:06:41] trust the voters.
[1:06:44] >> Okay. Anybody else before we go to
[1:06:46] » Okay. Anybody else before we go to
[1:06:46] public comment?
[1:06:47] >> Hey, one more thing I'd say uh Mr.
[1:06:49] » Hey, one more thing I'd say uh Mr.
[1:06:49] Mayor, if I can. Um the city has a a
[1:06:53] long history of um
[1:06:55] >> [snorts]
[1:06:56] » [snorts]
[1:06:56] >> doing a lot with what we are able to
[1:06:58] » doing a lot with what we are able to
[1:06:58] what we are able to collect. I we've
[1:07:00] always been financially uh responsible
[1:07:03] when it comes to managing um our
[1:07:05] funding. Um
[1:07:07] year after year we get awards for our um
[1:07:10] financial record keeping and and those
[1:07:13] kinds of things, but we've always been
[1:07:15] prudent um when it comes to using the
[1:07:17] funds that we that we are able to
[1:07:18] secure. So,
[1:07:20] um I I wouldn't expect that that would
[1:07:23] change with this um and I want to assure
[1:07:25] the public that it won't change um if if
[1:07:28] this uh additional money comes to the
[1:07:30] city, we will continue to be prudent
[1:07:32] with it and do the things that we need
[1:07:34] to do um for these quality of life uh
[1:07:37] issues.
[1:07:38] >> Thank you.
[1:07:39] » Thank you.
[1:07:39] Okay, we're going to open this to get
[1:07:42] public comment.
[1:07:43] Okay.
[1:07:44] Um Mary Alice,
[1:07:45] do you have a slip?
[1:07:52] » I'm not exactly sure how this all works,
[1:07:54] so I apologize for if you think I've
[1:07:57] been um
[1:07:59] interrupting cuz I didn't know.
[1:08:01] >> It's fine. You're fine.
[1:08:03] » It's fine. You're fine.
[1:08:03] >> So, like everybody else I got one of
[1:08:04] » So, like everybody else I got one of
[1:08:04] these. Oh, greetings to all you
[1:08:07] officials
[1:08:09] and
[1:08:10] fellow citizens.
[1:08:12] I got one of these.
[1:08:14] And I read it and I'm okay with a 1% tax
[1:08:18] increase cuz we really need the help
[1:08:21] here. However,
[1:08:23] in reading this possible ballot
[1:08:25] question,
[1:08:26] it's very vague
[1:08:28] and you have services such as. So, does
[1:08:32] that mean in 5 years I can say, "We need
[1:08:36] to add a service a spa service." And
[1:08:39] it's so it's to me, it is I'm
[1:08:42] questioning that it is not
[1:08:45] how it is written and I know I'm sure
[1:08:48] the city has some high-priced lawyers
[1:08:51] that can write this that are not so
[1:08:53] vague. So, you have such as maintaining
[1:08:57] these things, which I'm all for
[1:08:58] maintaining.
[1:08:59] And providing approximately,
[1:09:02] that is not a definite number. Again,
[1:09:05] somewhere somebody smart in the future
[1:09:07] is going to start taking more money from
[1:09:10] the citizens
[1:09:12] that is supposed to be ended by voters.
[1:09:16] But that again, are they going to keep
[1:09:18] running it on? Who's going to make those
[1:09:21] elections? And then in rereading it and
[1:09:23] listening to everybody speaking, um
[1:09:26] so it says basic necessities like
[1:09:29] groceries and prescription medications
[1:09:32] are not going to be taxed. So what is
[1:09:34] going to be taxed?
[1:09:38] » Whoever can answer that.
[1:09:39] >> I'm I'm happy to answer those questions.
[1:09:40] » I'm I'm happy to answer those questions.
[1:09:40] I I don't know if we want to do that,
[1:09:42] but uh so one of the things that won't
[1:09:45] change is the the percentage. And one of
[1:09:47] the reasons that it says approximately
[1:09:49] is because that is based on how much is
[1:09:53] spent here in Twentynine Palms. Sir um
[1:09:56] goods like um hard goods like which you
[1:10:00] get uh hammers and and and nails at the
[1:10:02] hardware store, those kinds of things.
[1:10:05] The um
[1:10:07] pretty much everything including um
[1:10:08] gasoline.
[1:10:10] Uh everything that isn't groceries and
[1:10:14] and medicine generally has it it will
[1:10:17] will this will apply to.
[1:10:18] >> And will it also be added to property
[1:10:20] » And will it also be added to property
[1:10:20] taxes?
[1:10:21] >> No, property taxes is separate uh is a
[1:10:24] » No, property taxes is separate uh is a
[1:10:24] separate uh
[1:10:25] a type of tax.
[1:10:26] >> All right, thank you.
[1:10:27] » All right, thank you.
[1:10:27] >> Um and and you your other question was
[1:10:32] » Um and and you your other question was
[1:10:33] >> Oh, um
[1:10:34] » Oh, um
[1:10:34] the who's got what's going to be taxed?
[1:10:37] And that the the question, the way it's
[1:10:39] written, is very vague. And I was
[1:10:42] wondering if the whoever writes it and
[1:10:44] puts it on the ballot, if they could be
[1:10:45] more specific so it's not such as
[1:10:49] maintaining 911 response, but it would
[1:10:51] say in Okay, um
[1:10:54] except for for grammar, including these
[1:10:57] items. Thank you.
[1:10:58] >> No, thank you for the questions and and
[1:11:00] » No, thank you for the questions and and
[1:11:00] those are great questions.
[1:11:03] Right now,
[1:11:05] there are two different types of tax
[1:11:06] that we can't that we have the option of
[1:11:09] of passing. Some that are specific. This
[1:11:12] tax that is generated, if it's a a
[1:11:15] specific tax, you know, has to be used
[1:11:18] for that specific thing.
[1:11:19] What we're proposing here is a
[1:11:22] a general levy tax that could be used
[1:11:27] across the board for city services.
[1:11:30] It says such as in that in that flyer
[1:11:32] because these are the things that the
[1:11:34] public identified as high priorities for
[1:11:36] the public. So, these are the things
[1:11:38] that we that we can
[1:11:40] we need to continue to maintain. We need
[1:11:42] to continue to maintain a high level of
[1:11:45] public safety. We need to continue a
[1:11:47] high level of road service. And and so,
[1:11:50] those are the things such as. Now,
[1:11:52] um when
[1:11:54] on July 14th is when we're going to be
[1:11:57] voting on the resolution um to put this
[1:12:00] on the ballot.
[1:12:01] And um
[1:12:03] we'll have a specific resolution that
[1:12:05] kind of spells out um in in more
[1:12:07] specific language than what you have in
[1:12:09] that brochure. So, I I encourage you to
[1:12:10] come
[1:12:12] um and and and see that resolution and
[1:12:15] um it it may
[1:12:17] you know, speak to what your what your
[1:12:19] concern is.
[1:12:24] » Well, after they're done.
[1:12:25] Oh, yes. Go ahead. I'll I'll write it on
[1:12:27] your slip.
[1:12:33] » I was more focused ready on the other
[1:12:34] subjects than in this one. Um yeah, I
[1:12:36] support the 1% tax cuz as we mentioned,
[1:12:39] our proud people at code enforcement
[1:12:42] Code enforcement is economic development
[1:12:44] and they take they need money and
[1:12:45] support from the city and city council
[1:12:47] because it takes money to go after these
[1:12:49] blighted properties. It's just not you
[1:12:50] can go up to them and give them a little
[1:12:51] slide and then it gets resolved. You
[1:12:53] have to fight them sometimes in court
[1:12:55] because some of these landlords are very
[1:12:57] very they uh not responsible to their
[1:12:59] solidarities of the common good. Thank
[1:13:01] you.
[1:13:02] >> Thank you. Okay, anybody else?
[1:13:04] » Thank you. Okay, anybody else?
[1:13:04] Okay, I'm going to bring it back to the
[1:13:06] council.
[1:13:07] >> Yes.
[1:13:09] » Yes.
[1:13:09] >> Pardon?
[1:13:10] » Pardon?
[1:13:10] Well,
[1:13:11] she wants
[1:13:11] >> You're welcome to have more
[1:13:13] » You're welcome to have more
[1:13:13] >> Council discussion.
[1:13:18] » This comment is um
[1:13:20] for just a little bit more clarification
[1:13:22] to Miss Miss Alice.
[1:13:24] I had a hard time with the word
[1:13:25] approximately, too. And in one of my
[1:13:28] discussions with the previous city
[1:13:30] manager, he explained to me that one of
[1:13:33] the reasons that we have to use the word
[1:13:35] approximately is because our economy has
[1:13:39] such a
[1:13:41] a big
[1:13:44] Um not big. Such a large amount of
[1:13:47] visitors annually, and that number is
[1:13:49] expected to fluctuate. So, that's why um
[1:13:52] that's one of the other reasons that he
[1:13:53] explained to me that we had to use the
[1:13:54] word approximately because
[1:13:57] it's also going to depend um
[1:14:00] very It's going to depend and vary based
[1:14:03] off of um our tourism numbers, as well.
[1:14:08] » And the only comment I'm going to make
[1:14:09] about uh
[1:14:10] if if you look at the track record of
[1:14:12] the the city council all the way back
[1:14:14] from 1987, the
[1:14:16] ballots budgets have been balanced even
[1:14:19] in hard times 2008 was tough times. Um
[1:14:22] there's always been reserves. The
[1:14:23] reserves is at you know, I've always
[1:14:25] there's always been a a priority to make
[1:14:27] sure there was a percentage of the
[1:14:29] revenue that's comes into the city is
[1:14:30] put in reserves. So, if you just if
[1:14:33] everyone just goes back and you can go
[1:14:34] back to the entire and you'll see how
[1:14:36] fiscally sound this city has been. So,
[1:14:38] if you're kind of worried about that,
[1:14:39] then you know, hopefully that helps um
[1:14:42] with with some of your comments as far
[1:14:44] as or some of your thoughts as how we're
[1:14:46] going to spend this money cuz again,
[1:14:49] it's it's a small when it comes to city
[1:14:50] government to me
[1:14:52] with we throw the number $2 million out
[1:14:54] there, but it as you can see in some of
[1:14:56] our our items that the $2 million is is
[1:14:59] going to just be you know, help us. It's
[1:15:01] not going to be something we can just
[1:15:03] start throwing
[1:15:04] wild parties. I don't know how to
[1:15:06] explain it. And besides with Abigail
[1:15:08] around, we don't do that kind of stuff.
[1:15:10] anyway, anybody else? This is a receive
[1:15:12] and file. So
[1:15:13] Okay.
[1:15:14] >> I I I would say one more thing that uh
[1:15:17] » I I I would say one more thing that uh
[1:15:18] not only have we always you know had a
[1:15:21] balanced budget, but um
[1:15:23] certainly um
[1:15:24] every year we have public hearings when
[1:15:27] it comes to discussing our budget and we
[1:15:29] always encourage the public to come and
[1:15:31] talk to us about priorities that they uh
[1:15:34] either see that we are meeting or not
[1:15:36] meeting. Um so we always encourage the
[1:15:38] public and want the public to come and
[1:15:40] speak. So
[1:15:41] um in terms of how we spend this money,
[1:15:44] the public is always involved in those
[1:15:46] discussions and and I'm sure if there's
[1:15:48] specific projects that come along, we'll
[1:15:50] have public hearings to be able to um
[1:15:52] hear the specific concerns on those
[1:15:55] items um specifically, but uh certainly
[1:15:57] when it comes to our budget, we always
[1:15:59] encourage the public to come and and
[1:16:01] participate in those discussions. Um
[1:16:03] you know, as as a as a means to for the
[1:16:05] council to hear hey, these are these are
[1:16:07] our priorities and this is where we'd
[1:16:09] like to see us spend the money. So
[1:16:12] >> Okay. All right, we'll just receive and
[1:16:13] » Okay. All right, we'll just receive and
[1:16:13] file.
[1:16:14] Okay, future uh council initiated items.
[1:16:17] Anything anybody need to add anything?
[1:16:19] Anybody want to take anything off?
[1:16:23] Okay.
[1:16:23] >> I I would
[1:16:24] » I I would
[1:16:24] >> I
[1:16:24] » I
[1:16:25] >> I'm sorry.
[1:16:25] » I'm sorry.
[1:16:25] >> That's all right.
[1:16:26] » That's all right.
[1:16:26] >> But uh there's a couple things I'd like
[1:16:28] » But uh there's a couple things I'd like
[1:16:28] to give you some updates on on these
[1:16:30] particular things um because I know
[1:16:32] they've been on here for a little while
[1:16:33] and um I you're some of you are probably
[1:16:35] wondering where we are on on some of it.
[1:16:39] in my time here I've been able to um do
[1:16:41] a little research on on some of these
[1:16:43] things. Others others uh not as much,
[1:16:45] but I kind of just want to go down the
[1:16:47] list.
[1:16:48] We're currently working on the shade
[1:16:50] structures to see what will fit and what
[1:16:52] we potentially might have funding for.
[1:16:55] We're looking for grant funding for such
[1:16:57] things because as we just talked about
[1:17:00] we don't have a lot of general fund
[1:17:02] money to put towards this, but we're
[1:17:04] looking for some grant funding to be
[1:17:06] able to come up with some shade
[1:17:07] structures.
[1:17:08] In the desert shade is is a valuable
[1:17:11] resource.
[1:17:14] discussion of policy regulating the city
[1:17:16] attorney's resources. This is
[1:17:19] an administrative policy that I'm that
[1:17:21] I'm going to institute across across the
[1:17:23] board. If there's
[1:17:25] employees and and particularly counsel
[1:17:28] that feels like we need some um
[1:17:31] city attorney resource um you know, I
[1:17:35] want you to come to me first. Certainly
[1:17:38] city staff has been instructed to do so.
[1:17:41] Right now we have city attorney working
[1:17:44] in many areas um
[1:17:46] that it's it's a pretty heavy lift
[1:17:51] when you talk about
[1:17:54] projects that we need to have the city
[1:17:56] attorney weigh in on policy
[1:17:59] like the 707 that we
[1:18:02] policy that was brought forward. Um
[1:18:04] certainly code enforcement often times
[1:18:07] we need
[1:18:08] legal advice on. So there's across the
[1:18:11] city we're trying to be again as as
[1:18:13] prudent as possible with the
[1:18:15] resources that we have. But this is an
[1:18:18] administrative policy that I'll I'll be
[1:18:20] watching.
[1:18:23] discussion of creating a recognized
[1:18:24] neighborhood program.
[1:18:26] I've had numerous conversations both
[1:18:28] with planning code enforcement
[1:18:32] and and other areas of the city.
[1:18:34] I'd like to bring something um, back to
[1:18:37] the to the council um, in in late
[1:18:40] August, early September regarding this
[1:18:42] particular item.
[1:18:44] Um, perhaps with a uh, to have a
[1:18:46] discussion, have some ideas about what
[1:18:48] we can do there.
[1:18:50] Um, the next uh, couple items uh, four,
[1:18:52] five, and six are all kind of tied in
[1:18:54] together. They have um,
[1:18:56] it it has to do with um,
[1:18:59] uh, homeless and housing um, and again
[1:19:02] um,
[1:19:03] uh, proposition 36 ties into that um,
[1:19:06] because we have
[1:19:08] um, many
[1:19:09] uh,
[1:19:10] folks that are deemed homeless um,
[1:19:13] but that um,
[1:19:15] that don't want housing. And so um,
[1:19:18] and and we'll have continue to have
[1:19:20] further discussions on on these items.
[1:19:23] Um,
[1:19:25] discussion about annexing parcels um,
[1:19:28] uh, these parcels on here also known as
[1:19:30] the Set Free Ranch. Um, we we have had
[1:19:33] some discussion with legal about what
[1:19:35] we're what we are and aren't able to do
[1:19:37] with that. Um, again um,
[1:19:40] this there's agencies that weigh in on
[1:19:43] this in including our local agency
[1:19:46] formation
[1:19:47] um, group which is uh, deemed LAFCO.
[1:19:49] They uh, tell us um, and so um, we're
[1:19:53] we're trying to explore what options we
[1:19:55] have with this um, but because these two
[1:19:58] particular parcels um, are not
[1:20:00] contiguous with the with the city
[1:20:01] boundaries, it's difficult to
[1:20:05] really impossible according to LAFCO to
[1:20:07] annex what what they would call an
[1:20:09] island. So that means we have to go to
[1:20:11] other property um,
[1:20:13] that is contiguous with the with the
[1:20:15] city boundary.
[1:20:16] And so we're we're we're we're seeing
[1:20:18] what our options are there.
[1:20:20] Um,
[1:20:23] the discussion of po- possible safe
[1:20:24] passage with Caltrans around Donnell
[1:20:26] Hill. We'll tell you that Caltrans did
[1:20:29] some work on the south side of that hill
[1:20:31] to clear a path um to to be able to walk
[1:20:34] across.
[1:20:36] There is also a um a dirt path on the
[1:20:39] north side
[1:20:40] um that is um is is graded and um people
[1:20:44] are able to walk there.
[1:20:46] Having said all that, I would still
[1:20:48] encourage the public not to be on that
[1:20:50] road at night.
[1:20:51] Um it it is a it's a it's a dangerous
[1:20:54] situation and um
[1:20:56] if you are, please use the path uh to
[1:20:59] the north side of the road cuz you're
[1:21:00] off the actual road.
[1:21:10] I I
[1:21:11] disperse some information to the council
[1:21:13] regarding um the flock cameras. Um I'd
[1:21:16] like y'all to take a look at that. We
[1:21:18] will be bringing this forward at a at a
[1:21:19] future time.
[1:21:21] I know uh
[1:21:22] Councilmember Scott or
[1:21:24] um Mayor Pro Tem Scott is uh having a a
[1:21:29] a town hall um meeting on this uh topic,
[1:21:32] but uh we'll all we'll bring this back
[1:21:35] onto the council.
[1:21:39] And then we're looking into um with that
[1:21:42] last item, looking into make sure our
[1:21:44] municipal code is in line with the
[1:21:46] state.
[1:21:47] Um and so I'll bring you back an update
[1:21:49] on that. So that
[1:21:51] kind of gives you a little bit update on
[1:21:52] all these things. Um some of them, if
[1:21:54] it's all right with you, I'll uh I'll
[1:21:56] I'll take off this list, but the ones we
[1:21:58] are going to bring back, I'll leave on
[1:21:59] that.
[1:22:02] » Okay.
[1:22:02] >> Okay.
[1:22:03] » Okay.
[1:22:03] >> All right. Public comment.
[1:22:07] This is the time for the public to
[1:22:08] address the city council on issues
[1:22:09] within the jurisdiction of the city
[1:22:11] council that are not on this agenda. All
[1:22:13] comments directed to the city council
[1:22:14] shall not consist of any personal
[1:22:16] attacks. Members of the public are
[1:22:17] expected to maintain a professional
[1:22:18] courteous decorum during their comments.
[1:22:20] This is a time limitation of 3 minutes
[1:22:22] per person. If you have not already done
[1:22:24] so, please fill out the name address
[1:22:25] slips and give them to the city clerk.
[1:22:26] The
[1:22:27] Council is prohibited by state law from
[1:22:29] taking action on discussion items not
[1:22:31] included on the print agenda. Public
[1:22:32] comments on agenda items will will be
[1:22:35] deferred until consideration of the item
[1:22:37] on the agenda. And I have one slip here
[1:22:40] from Carlos.
[1:22:48] » [clears throat]
[1:22:49] >> Hi, Carlos Blind.
[1:22:50] » Hi, Carlos Blind.
[1:22:50] Something I learned from reading the
[1:22:51] Pope Leo's Magnificat Humanitatis
[1:22:53] encyclical of his pontiff. In the past,
[1:22:56] it was largely up to the state to guide
[1:22:57] and direct innovation. Today, however,
[1:22:58] the main
[1:22:59] drivers of development development are
[1:23:01] private, often transnational parties
[1:23:03] that are endowed with resources and
[1:23:04] capacity to intervene that surpasses
[1:23:06] those of many governments.
[1:23:08] Most people are watching and waiting
[1:23:09] observing from afar and merely hoping
[1:23:11] for the best. For this reason, the
[1:23:12] crucial question confronts our
[1:23:13] conscience and can no longer can no
[1:23:15] longer can no longer be avoided. Where
[1:23:17] are we going to where go towards what
[1:23:19] goal do we wish to orient ourselves?
[1:23:21] What direction should we choose as
[1:23:23] people and as a human community? The
[1:23:25] narrative of the book of Nehemiah
[1:23:28] shows the city of shows how the city is
[1:23:29] reborn not through the initiative of one
[1:23:31] man, but through the shared
[1:23:32] responsibility of all. Men, women,
[1:23:34] priests, artisans, head of households,
[1:23:36] and young people all play a part. It is
[1:23:38] often where
[1:23:40] It is off often It is found where
[1:23:42] freedom and responsibility are
[1:23:44] intertwined with mutual care and true
[1:23:46] solidarity, and where progress is
[1:23:48] measured by the dignity of each person
[1:23:49] and the good of all peoples. Building a
[1:23:51] world in which everyone can flourish
[1:23:52] requires shared responsibility and
[1:23:54] courage. No one can singly and only bear
[1:23:56] the weight of the challenge of the world
[1:23:57] is facing. Just no one is Just as no one
[1:23:59] is weak as they cannot play their part.
[1:24:01] For individuals and nations alike,
[1:24:03] development is both a Development is
[1:24:05] both a duty and a right. Minimum
[1:24:06] conditions are required for enabling
[1:24:07] every person and people to flourish in
[1:24:10] in accord with their dignity without
[1:24:11] keeping kept in a state of dependence or
[1:24:13] excluded from access to necessary goods.
[1:24:16] With that said, we have many private
[1:24:18] entities in this town who are squatting
[1:24:19] on prime real estate. I'm just not
[1:24:21] talking about the slumlords owners and
[1:24:22] those long-term rentals. I'm also
[1:24:23] talking about those so-called business
[1:24:24] folks in this town who love the
[1:24:25] spotlight but don't enjoy the work.
[1:24:27] Every For example, they enjoy squatting
[1:24:29] on prime real estate to either hinder
[1:24:30] competition or to set up
[1:24:32] false fake shell LLCs where they report
[1:24:35] their supposed losses. This includes SB
[1:24:37] 29 with their new admin HR suite. The
[1:24:40] shame on High Desert Retail for being
[1:24:41] part of their scheme. I guess they're
[1:24:43] lucky that their salon owner owns those
[1:24:44] three units. These units are never open
[1:24:46] to serve the community. For example, how
[1:24:48] are we going to shop local and bring
[1:24:49] revenue to our city? Um For example,
[1:24:52] reset hotel reset hotel reset hotel loan
[1:24:54] is still using residential lands as
[1:24:55] service commercial. But you won't
[1:24:57] enforce the same policies as same
[1:24:58] policies as you hinder many other
[1:25:00] developers on rezoning. I keep hearing
[1:25:02] about the need for housing but you let
[1:25:03] them do anything on that land except
[1:25:05] build homes. Back to private. Where
[1:25:07] Where is the solidarity for the common
[1:25:09] good? Where is the magnifica
[1:25:10] humanitatis?
[1:25:12] We need code code enforcement's teeth
[1:25:14] and council support. If not, this town
[1:25:15] is doomed and will always be a
[1:25:17] cul-de-sac for the slum for the High
[1:25:18] Desert because the city has a taken over
[1:25:19] mentality rather than leaving things
[1:25:21] better than you found them. This
[1:25:23] includes doing things that don't have
[1:25:24] ROI or return on investment as some
[1:25:26] businesses say. Or the story of
[1:25:28] Nehemiah, let's build this wall
[1:25:30] together.
[1:25:32] >> Okay, thank you
[1:25:33] » Okay, thank you
[1:25:33] Tanja Maddox.
[1:25:36] Oh, I think she left. I think that that
[1:25:37] was the captain said she left. So, I
[1:25:39] don't think she's here. Miss Maddox,
[1:25:40] you're not here, right? Okay.
[1:25:42] Okay, I have no other slips.
[1:25:44] Um so, that's it for the public comment.
[1:25:52] Okay, so yes, now we are having a
[1:25:54] meeting. We announced that we weren't
[1:25:55] having a meeting on July 14th but now we
[1:25:58] are going to have a meeting at July 14th
[1:26:00] because we have to talk about the um
[1:26:02] uh tax measure. Um I did I meant to ask
[1:26:05] you what during future general items are
[1:26:07] we supposed to put this policy 22 on
[1:26:08] there? Is that for this the new 707?
[1:26:12] Is that just something
[1:26:13] >> No, no, no. We we took you adopted it in
[1:26:16] » No, no, no. We we took you adopted it in
[1:26:16] the uh consent.
[1:26:17] >> Oh, in their consent. Okay. Okay. I just
[1:26:20] » Oh, in their consent. Okay. Okay. I just
[1:26:20] wanted to to know if we hopefully the
[1:26:21] public reads. Please read this. There
[1:26:23] are some restrictions on when you can uh
[1:26:26] submit your uh forms.
[1:26:29] So. There is There is copies in the
[1:26:31] back. So, please pick those up
[1:26:32] especially the folks that um use it a
[1:26:33] lot.
[1:26:34] >> Once we have the technology installed,
[1:26:36] » Once we have the technology installed,
[1:26:36] we'll certainly um
[1:26:38] let the public know again, "Hey, this is
[1:26:40] how you go about um
[1:26:42] logging in, you know, and and that kind
[1:26:44] of stuff." Once we have it installed,
[1:26:46] make sure it works the way that we hope
[1:26:48] that it will.
[1:26:48] >> Okay. Okay. Great. All right. We are in
[1:26:51] » Okay. Okay. Great. All right. We are in
[1:26:52] adjournment then.
[1:27:02] All right.