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[0:01] Councilmember Cox.
[0:05] Councilmember Gomez.
[0:08] See us here. She just stepped out for a second. Councilmember Jones.
[0:17] Councilmember Jones.
[0:22] Here. Mayor Pro Temmeramirez.
[0:29] Here. Mayor Garcia.
[0:34] Here.
[0:38] Okay, Mary.
[0:42] Okay. At this time we will have post-session announcements by our city attorney face.
[0:47] Thank you, Mayor Garcia. We had four items on the agenda this evening for a closed session.
[0:52] Two of which were existing litigation and two of which were anticipated litigation.
[0:57] First item was existing litigation pursuant to government code 54956.9D1.
[1:03] The parties to that litigation and the case number are set forth on the agenda.
[1:07] The other existing litigation was item D pursuant to government code 54956.9D1.
[1:14] and again the case name and case number is on the agenda.
[1:19] We had to anticipate the litigations pursuant to government code 54956.9D4 and 54956.9D2
[1:30] and the information relating to those are also set both on the agenda.
[1:34] We did not get to item D and there was no pressing need at this time that can be carried
[1:39] over to the next meeting.
[1:40] There is no reportable action with respect to items A, B, or C, the two anticipated litigation items and the existing litigation items.
[1:48] No reportable action at this time.
[1:53] Thank you very much.
[1:55] The implementation will be by Pastor Dane Davis, that Impact Risk Center.
[2:03] Thank you, Pastor Dane.
[2:05] Thank you, Mayor Garcia, and healthy
[2:12] tonight.
[2:19] In this song,
[2:22] in a pandemic,
[2:31] my God in whom I trust,
[2:38] he will cover you
[2:44] out with me in a little prayer.
[2:53] nation's history. Lord, taking comfort in you. Lord, we know that you are bigger than any virus.
[3:00] Lord, you're stronger than any problem that we face
[3:06] and face these problems,
[3:09] mostly to home. Father, we just pray that you would give us courage, that you would give us strength,
[3:16] that you would give us peace.
[3:24] Lord, many of us have never
[3:32] tried to make a ghost city,
[3:36] but Lord, many decisions are out of their control. They're being handed down to them, Lord,
[3:41] by Governor Newsom and the state level.
[3:43] Many decisions are being handed down now
[3:45] from the federal level.
[3:46] And so, Lord, I just pray that you bless our mayor
[3:49] and each of the city council members of God
[3:51] as they work together.
[3:53] May they work together in unity and make decisions
[3:55] once again in the best interest of our city.
[3:58] And, Lord, we do take this up to the mayor
[4:02] pro-tem of Atlanta situation.
[4:07] We pray that you would strengthen his wife and his family.
[4:10] And, Lord, we just pray for that whole city council
[4:17] lengthen them during this time
[4:23] to you and not away from you during this season.
[4:26] God has come up on Easter this weekend. I just pray that millions of
[4:29] American
[4:32] TV's God
[4:37] used to give us hope and peace and strength and it's in his name that I pray.
[4:46] Thank you. Thank you so very much. God bless you.
[4:54] Time is an agenda item that may be of complex interest to any council member or board member.
[5:02] It should be identified at this time.
[5:04] Do we have anything on the agenda that would be a conflict that
[5:12] it didn't mean that it didn't mean that
[5:21] Charlene did you want me to continue or did you want to I could I can the person will be a public hearing
[5:29] For the wells 122 and the 123 pump-to-waist award of contract
[5:35] The recommendation is that the water district board approve the notice of exemption for well 122 123 pump-to-waist project
[5:43] award a construction contract to D.D.H. Apple Valley construction for Wells 122, 123 to waste in the amount of $335,000.
[5:57] And I'll first ask if I'll go ahead, I'm sorry.
[6:03] No, I'm sorry. I'll ask council members if they have questions of staff first and I'll go.
[6:08] So if it's okay with you mayor, let's say where we've been going by alphabetical and
[6:14] then with mayor pro tem and then you have the last one.
[6:17] Okay.
[6:19] Okay.
[6:19] Yes.
[6:19] That's fine.
[6:22] This staff might tell because you want me to open up.
[6:25] I have a question.
[6:29] Okay.
[6:30] That's member Cox.
[6:32] Okay.
[6:33] Yeah.
[6:35] Is that remember some years ago?
[6:36] This is a question.
[6:39] Does that remember some years ago?
[6:41] I think I remember this.
[6:42] There's
[6:55] nothing wrong with the water. Why is that still sufficient?
[7:00] Madam Mayor and members of the council, I'll have Brian fill in the blanks that I can't.
[7:08] But in some cases, we have wells that discharge and whether they're to a onsite pond or they
[7:17] actually run down the street curbs and gutters and things like that.
[7:21] This is intended to retain everything on site first in these tanks and then eventually
[7:27] perk them back down into the ground.
[7:30] You are correct that there is nothing wrong with the water, even if it were to continue
[7:35] to run down the streets as I've seen in many cases.
[7:40] The reason there's nothing wrong with the water comes directly from the ground, but before
[7:47] Before we actually pump that water directly into our water system, we do discharge water
[7:55] so that we can rid the water that goes into the public system from any silt that's brought
[8:01] up from, earth and silt that's brought up from the aquifer.
[8:05] So this is intended to contain more on-site pump at first to a tank, let the desilting
[8:11] occur and then let us slow discharge into a percolation pond that eventually gets the
[8:16] the water back down into the ground directly below where the pumps are located. Brian and I
[8:24] miss anything or say anything that wasn't entirely accurate there.
[8:31] Okay, panel, thanks. So
[8:43] question
[8:46] because I know that the director
[9:05] of water Doug Matthews you know I know erosion is a part
[9:09] of it and so as to potentially reduce downstream erosion I believe that's part of the reason but there
[9:17] there may be more to it than that, Mr.
[9:21] Matthews?
[9:21] Yeah, that down
[9:56] the road, especially where there are roads,
[9:57] where there are no curbs and gutters.
[10:00] And to the extent the water actually is creating erosion,
[10:03] it actually creates more work for the city
[10:06] in that we likely have to send the shoulder crew out
[10:09] maybe more frequently to repair the damage to the shoulders.
[10:14] So all together it's to better contain the discharge
[10:19] to do a lot of things, including reduced downstream erosion.
[10:25] Yeah, a lot of our wells are not actually next to a wash or some type of drainage channel.
[10:35] Any further questions?
[10:37] Okay.
[10:39] Yeah, he raised the door.
[10:45] was going to go on a tank and two CPG fits at two well sites.
[10:51] It was almost, and I'm
[11:04] not finding it to be honest with you.
[11:08] Like
[11:12] I said, evens,
[11:30] I mean, just getting conveyed.
[12:19] Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions?
[12:23] Yes, just one.
[12:25] So, please, would this effectively improve our company's footprint?
[12:30] By doing this work?
[12:33] I'm sorry, would it improve our company's footprint?
[12:42] Brent, in that the improvements are contained within the well-site, the fenced-in location.
[12:50] I think it just self-contains itself better, it's probably a better way to characterize
[12:56] it.
[13:00] Thank you.
[13:01] That's all I have.
[13:01] Thank you.
[13:03] Council Member Gomez.
[13:04] Do you have any questions?
[13:11] Council Member Gomez?
[13:14] Yes, I'm sorry.
[13:15] You were muted when I was speaking.
[13:17] I apologize.
[13:17] What is the cash flow of this account currently and can we foresee any appropriations of minis
[13:24] in the upcoming budget year for the affirmative decisions if the council were to decide in the
[13:29] affirmative to contract with CDH Apple Valley construction.
[13:35] This particular item, I would say it cash flows consistent with the way the budget was prepared
[13:42] because this item particularly doesn't require an additional appropriation.
[13:46] It is from the Water Fund 410 which is rate funded for, for rate funded by water users.
[13:55] It is a rate funded capital project.
[13:58] So I guess the answer to the question without the actual numbers in front of me in rate it cash flows consistent with our
[14:07] fiscal budget
[14:14] You mean with the current fiscal budget, right? Because we're talking about real time. Yes
[14:20] Okay, the next question is what account
[14:23] Financial type of contract you I think you named one which is a great payers, but I don't know there's multiple
[14:30] It's fun and perhaps the word account is also confusing
[14:34] It's fun 410-410, which is the water fund.
[14:40] I guess my question goes to how does that get funded?
[14:45] I mean, money doesn't grow on trees.
[14:46] I don't need to be rude. I'm just trying to explain.
[14:49] So where is that coming from?
[14:50] Rape fares.
[14:52] What did you call them? Rape fares?
[14:54] Rape fares.
[14:56] Oh, that's the only one.
[14:57] Okay, and are there scheduled?
[15:10] We operate in accord with a five-year rate plan, and I believe we're in year four of that rate plan. That's where Mr. Matthews can correct me up on wrong.
[15:21] long. And this year we adopted a rate increase consistent with the rate plan when we approved
[15:30] the budget.
[15:48] With that said, if we have two of these to be implemented and it's part of the master
[15:53] plan, why did Lahont can have to come into the picture? And more explanation that you
[15:58] can contextualize with, I speak to Mr.
[16:03] Gangler State, it reduced the still-and-drainage
[16:06] channels to mitigate La Hansen's requirement, what they were, and despite the fact that there
[16:11] may be some type of water news in fact and cause other things, would you be able to contextualize
[16:15] the La Hansen with what we're doing here in terms of the fiscal impact, how La Hansen plays
[16:21] in, and what we're doing today with this particular item.
[16:26] Mr. Gangler, you want to try to address that?
[16:31] Yes, I can, so
[16:41] we're meant in.
[17:29] Thank you, no further questions.
[17:32] Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor, is do you have any questions?
[17:34] Any questions?
[17:37] No.
[17:38] Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[17:43] No.
[17:44] Everything is in answer.
[17:46] Thank you.
[17:49] I'll go ahead and open the public hearing.
[17:52] Is there anyone on the line that would like to speak on this item?
[17:59] There be no one.
[18:01] I'll close the public hearing.
[18:05] Mayor would you like to ask for a motion in a second?
[18:11] Certainly.
[18:12] At this time we need a motion in a second.
[18:17] So it's a bit of an invite to move in and recommend a fight.
[18:25] have a minute second I'll
[18:30] second I do have a I have a motion by Councilmember Gomez and I have a second by Councilmember Cox all
[18:38] Those in favor. I'm going to call roll call right now. Councilmember Cox
[18:46] Councilmember Gomez
[18:51] Councilmember Jones I
[18:55] Mayor Pro Temmer Mara's
[18:59] Yes. Mayor Garcia?
[19:04] Yes. Motion passes unanimously.
[19:18] Mayor, do you want to open up the consent?
[19:22] Yes. A cop. Now we move on to consent calendar and we have our consent calendar item 2 through 9 and they may be approved with one motion and there is an item that needs to be approved for discussion.
[19:38] If
[19:44] we do not have any items that need to be pulled then I would need a motion and a second.
[19:51] Seconded.
[19:54] I didn't get the first one.
[19:56] Okay, thank you.
[19:57] I have a motion made by Councilmember Cox, seconded by Councilmember Gomez.
[20:04] All those in favor?
[20:05] Councilmember Cox?
[20:09] Councilmember Gomez?
[20:12] Aye.
[20:12] Councilmember Jones.
[20:16] Mayor Pro Temer, Maris.
[20:21] Mayor Garcia.
[20:25] Motion passes unanimously.
[20:32] Now we move on to a written communication, Shirley and I'll let you continue from there.
[20:39] Okay. This is a termination of power purchase agreement between the City of Victorville and
[20:44] Hecatee Engineering. The recommendation is that the City Council approve the termination
[20:49] agreement between the City of Victorville and Hecatee Engineering, Pello Alto, authorizes
[20:54] City Manager to execute set termination agreement and adopt resolution number 20-015 amending
[21:01] the fiscal year 2019-2020 budget by $50,000.
[21:08] At this time I could ask council members if they have questions.
[21:13] Council member Cox, do you have any questions?
[21:16] No questions.
[21:18] Council member Jones, do you have any questions?
[21:23] Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions?
[21:27] Yes, I know this was part of our close session discussion, which presumed that it wouldn't come onto the next council meeting.
[21:37] So I was left with not really finding what the benefit was for us to release 450,000 and keep 50 grand.
[21:45] and if someone can clarify, I just don't see a benefit,
[21:49] I almost feel like we're losing over half a million dollars
[21:53] and we're keeping not even a 1% just to recover
[21:57] what would be the time being spent.
[21:59] I mean, do we have evidence of the time being circulated
[22:03] and documented so that we can see that it amounts
[22:06] to half over half a million dollars?
[22:09] I mean, 450, sorry.
[22:10] Sorry.
[22:12] Yeah, Madam Mayor, members of the council, if I might, and Director of Electric Utility
[22:17] Services, Brenda Hampton is also on the line and she can fill in the blanks where
[22:23] I can't and she can correct me where I may be wrong.
[22:27] But this transaction dates back to April 17, 2018 and it effectively was an agreement by
[22:33] by Victorville Municipal Utility Services to forward commit its purchase of electricity
[22:41] once the developer, in this case, Hecatee Palo Alto, completes the build out of a solar power
[22:50] generating facility as an inducement to get the Victorville Utility Services to take the
[22:59] the developer serious in believing it had the ability to perform, the developer actually
[23:06] agreed as a part of the power purchase contract to put together, to deposit with the city
[23:13] a $500,000 form of security as a deposit. And that was a deposit effectively to serve as good
[23:25] faith that it was going to perform in developing the project.
[23:32] Now as it made the deposit as security, that money was never earned by Victorville Utility
[23:40] Services and has never been earned by Victorville Utility Services.
[23:45] However, because the developer was unable to satisfy provisions of the contract and actually
[23:53] complete to the build out of the proposed power generating facility, I
[24:02] did to enter into
[24:04] settlement conversations to actually unwind to this transaction.
[24:11] The city had considered trying to recover its actual damages and estimated its actual
[24:17] damages closer to the $50,000 that is the settlement amount on this transaction.
[24:23] So mechanically, the way this transaction would work if the council approved it would be that as we're currently holding the $500,000 deposit, if the council approves this agreement we would retain $50,000 to offset our time energy investment and actually originally developing this agreement and return the $450,000 deposit that effectively was a good faith deposit by the developer.
[24:54] So, just to be clear, any of that $500,000 was not earned, it was more of a performance
[25:01] guarantee that it was going to build and with settlement we're just recovering our costs.
[25:10] Okay, so there's a little bit more sophistication there then.
[25:14] So, in the conversation I had understood that we, as a city of Vickerville, had put a deposit
[25:21] it to allow heckes to show space with the financing firm so they would get loans and
[25:29] be able to do the production and then we would get our portfolio met.
[25:32] But now it's my understanding that they just deposit and we're gaining 50 grand which
[25:38] means that to help with the cost that we're incurred during the process, is that what I'm
[25:45] hearing?
[25:46] That is correct.
[25:48] I got it.
[25:49] Thank you for that clarification.
[25:50] I have no further questions.
[25:52] Mayor Pro Temmer, do you have any questions?
[25:59] Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[26:04] No, I'm just glad we made 50 grand.
[26:08] Let me check on the line to see if there's anyone who would like to speak on this item.
[26:15] Is there anyone who would like to speak on the item on the phone?
[26:21] There's no speakers.
[26:24] No.
[26:26] Okay, at this time we need a motion and a second.
[26:36] I have a motion by Councilmember Jones, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favor?
[26:44] Councilmember Cox?
[26:48] Councilmember Gomez?
[26:51] Aye.
[26:52] Councilmember Jones?
[26:54] Aye.
[26:57] Mayor Pro Temer-Marras?
[27:01] Aye.
[27:02] Mayor Garcia?
[27:07] Motion passes unanimously.
[27:15] Item 11 is acquisition of automatic license plate readers and a number of other members
[27:19] approval of an enterprise service agreement, that the City Council approved the purchase
[27:24] of 37 fixed automatic license plate reader, Reaper HD cameras in the amount of $397,959.31
[27:35] from Vigilant Solutions LLC, approved the enterprise services agreement for automatic
[27:40] license plate recognition program services for a period of one year, and authorized a city
[27:46] committee manager to execute said enterprise service agreement and any transactional related
[27:51] document to effectuate this transaction.
[27:56] I will ask council members, if they have any questions, council member Cox, do you have
[28:00] any questions?
[28:02] No.
[28:03] Council member Jones, do you have any questions?
[28:08] Yes, I do.
[28:08] Thank you, Madam Clerk.
[28:10] So, Mr. Metzler, this item comes in at significantly below what was appropriated for
[28:18] this project. So is this a full of the projects and is what we're looking at now is it sufficient
[28:31] for our present needs and is it also worked for anticipating our future development
[28:38] in population growth?
[28:42] Thank you Madam Mayor and members of the council. So this item as
[28:48] As you recall, as the council, we did approve $450,000 as a capital budget item for this technology.
[28:57] While the fiscal impact shows 397 is being less than the 450, there is a separate maintenance
[29:06] contract that goes along with this that will actually get us pretty darn close to the 450,000.
[29:13] That maintenance contract, however, does not have to come back to the council because it
[29:17] actually fits within my purchasing authority.
[29:21] So, once this is approved, then I can move forward
[29:23] with that maintenance contract.
[29:25] And we will spend as much of that $450,000 as possible.
[29:31] Speaking to the scope of the project in myself
[29:34] and police chief messenger who is on the phone as well,
[29:38] and he can fill in some blanks for me,
[29:41] this item is what we're considering completing two
[29:45] of three phases of an entire scope. The reason why we couldn't complete all three of the
[29:52] desired. I'm sorry all three of the phases is because to complete all three phases it took us the
[30:00] The three phases took us to a price that was greater than what we had budgeted. So at this point, phases one and two, which comprise 37 high definition ALPR cameras, will be purchased, and installed. And our vision without being in the budget process yet, though we're nearing the developing and the drafting of the budget, we're envisioning budgeting at the least, phase three to be done.
[30:30] done in the next budget and presuming the council approves that then we can move forward
[30:35] with the fully intended scope. As to the growth, right now really our focus hasn't been
[30:44] on growth. Our focus more so has been upon traffic. And where are the major ingresses
[30:51] and egresses into the city? And how do we first try to capture all those ins and outs into
[30:59] city. Ultimately the chief and I would like to once we box the city in for lack of better terms
[31:05] then start creating smaller boxes or smaller rings within the city so the technology can be used
[31:12] to better isolate and the technology is largely intended as you probably already know to be a tool
[31:20] to help law enforcement solve crimes faster and certainly there's some examples and the chief could
[31:27] probably particularly better than I some of those examples but this is really
[31:31] intended to help some of our deputies detectives solve crimes quicker so at
[31:36] the same time as we're solving the crimes quicker we can get those deputies back
[31:39] on the street in solving other issues or dealing with other patrol related
[31:45] matters. Chief you want to jump in on that?
[31:51] Sure thank you City Manager you said a very well it's just that if there's any
[31:56] additional questions on it. It's essentially, I'll give you an example of real life that we
[32:03] have recently in the city when it came to the ALPR even though we don't have them. We have
[32:07] a sister city that has them. We had a takeover robbery of one of our businesses in the city and
[32:13] we're able to get a day vehicle description based on some investigative work by the detective. Within
[32:20] In the exact thing, we were able to identify the suspect off of an automated license plate
[32:27] reader kit in the city of the Sparia and ultimately led to the arrest of the suspect to
[32:33] take over robbery.
[32:34] Without that information from that ALPR, it's questionable whether or not we would have
[32:42] been able to solve that crime that timely and or at all because we had a fake vehicle
[32:48] description, and that was it. That's just a small example. There's other examples that
[32:52] we have of license plate readers from the simple standpoint is recovering stolen vehicles
[32:59] for instance, also amber alert, things like that. Those things get put into that system.
[33:06] And essentially what it's akin to is having a deputy sheriff standing at an intersection
[33:12] where this camera is seeing
[33:16] every license plate and being able to immediately know whether
[33:19] are not that they endanger a person, a wanted person, or anything like that, plus also
[33:25] notating down the types of vehicles, models, so on and so forth.
[33:30] So other than the basic, yes, you get a solar vehicle answer, also you're collecting data
[33:36] for further investigations, which in that one particular case really helped us.
[33:41] This is a proven technology.
[33:44] This isn't something we're just stepping out on on our own for the first time.
[33:47] There's various cities throughout California in the country that have this technology and it's been proven
[33:54] And it is it's been proven to be a force multiplier
[33:58] When it comes to law enforcement
[34:00] And
[34:04] then just a quick follow up. So how many how many readers do are we looking to add in phase three?
[34:12] phase three
[34:14] My my documents here show that there's an additional 20 that we would accomplish in phase three
[34:22] All right. Very good. Thank you. That's all I have. Madame Perth.
[34:26] Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions?
[34:29] Yes. I do. Can you hear me? Yes.
[34:35] Yes. Okay. Perfect. So, yes, there are numerous concerns with this
[34:41] license plate reader for obvious reasons that I have encountered with the general public.
[34:47] And I'm only going to voice a few in terms of questions. So, some of these concerns,
[34:52] it's Captain Bessinger and chime in. Will the police department, will the police department
[34:59] be storing millions of records in terms of capturing these license plate readers and storing
[35:06] the data? And how will the city monitor what information is being stored if it's not
[35:13] just for criminal reasons and it's going beyond the criminal aspect of it?
[35:17] Okay.
[35:22] The answer to storing data is correct. The law provides for the law enforcement entity
[35:29] stores data and reference to these automated license plate readers and the database for
[35:34] investigation. Therefore, it can only be used for law enforcement purposes. So the Sheriff's
[35:42] Department itself would be responsible for storing that. Please enter your pin by following
[35:48] if you do not know, if you do not know, if you are in a town or a hash.
[36:00] Thank you.
[36:01] Even information that you selected for purposes of this nature and others?
[36:05] Yes or no?
[36:06] No.
[36:07] My understanding is that someone wanted a public records act request.
[36:10] It has to be for a law enforcement purpose to release that data is my understanding.
[36:20] What do you need to understand?
[36:21] Sorry, go ahead.
[36:23] No, yeah, your women's law enforcement reason, what does that mean?
[36:28] Law enforcement reason would be, for instance, we can access the data because we're doing
[36:32] a criminal investigation in reference to maybe why a vehicle went through a certain intersection
[36:38] or so on and so forth.
[36:40] Someone can't just, they have to have the legal right, someone can't just decide, I want to request
[36:45] records from this year to this year and get a bunch of individuals' private information.
[36:50] It has
[36:54] computers in our corner and we can run light and play, but we don't provide that
[36:58] information out to the public as a standard protocol because that is confidential information.
[37:05] Here's for law enforcement purposes only.
[37:08] What are we going to do to passify if we can passify, whether I don't know if it's misinformation
[37:14] or just intimidation or fear of the authority behind the blue badge, but being told that
[37:21] Millions, at least apartments, two store millions of records about innocent drivers.
[37:27] And this information is ultimately in violation of a lot of the legal rights that people
[37:35] have as private citizens.
[37:40] Well, again, this has been this one
[37:44] for a while and it's proven.
[37:46] And I don't know of any laws that states that the storage of that information is against
[37:53] a law from someone's registered innocent citizens, there's nothing that indicates or any case
[38:03] law that I'm aware of.
[38:07] Right.
[38:08] So I wanted to make sure that they live on the records that the concerns of residents
[38:13] is such that the retention of such information, including innocent bystanders, would be collected
[38:19] and there would be no restriction to a lot of the protection of their privacy rights and
[38:23] And the force is always the other argument of lowering time and hopefully it's just for
[38:28] the criminality aspect and not to, you know, kind of intended to quarantine the city
[38:34] of Victorville for any criminality or civil actions or of that nature.
[38:39] So it's really, really to show that there is different perspectives of how we feel of certain
[38:45] things being done that could be restrictive to our rights.
[38:49] Thank you.
[38:53] Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris, do you have any questions?
[38:58] Yes, I do.
[39:00] I would like to know, upon approval, how quickly will we have that?
[39:06] Actually, in fact, how soon will we be able to use project items?
[39:18] Mr. Clerk, city engineer, do you have an idea?
[39:20] I know you helped scope this for us.
[39:28] Definitely.
[39:28] But I know that they're from
[40:05] the contractor.
[40:05] Okay,
[40:11] the second question is because in the high days there were all concern about the
[40:17] rate of crime history on the purchase of this particular project that will lessen crime
[40:26] by a percentage.
[40:27] In other words, are we looking that we would be able to have at least two or three percent
[40:34] less crime because we have this capability of resolving a crime faster?
[40:41] Hope
[40:45] so, but you know being the professional in that field maybe Rick is the best one to answer his perspective now
[40:55] I would say I hate to put a number to it because it's obviously would be an estimation on our part once we get them
[41:02] Of course with the city
[41:07] my personal experience not only researching this and being all the ALPRs
[41:11] As I do believe it ends up being a deterrent and when we can catch these these folks committing these crimes sooner
[41:21] some
[41:25] of their little crimes for these things like that.
[41:28] So I do believe it was raw.
[41:32] I just had the taste to give any kind of actual numbers
[41:34] because quite honestly,
[41:36] crime statistics, when it comes to various crimes occurring,
[41:41] there's many, many, many things that cause them,
[41:44] and it's a little bit just off the cuff looking into a crystal ball.
[41:48] So I don't want to stick to a number,
[41:50] but I won't tell you my belief is this one for men's crimes
[41:53] and it will also have a great impact on those that are
[41:57] praying on our citizens of the city.
[42:02] Thank you. That's very important to me because
[42:04] I would feel that with the purchase of
[42:09] this particular item that the intent is to have
[42:15] a question that being safe at home knowing that our
[42:20] law enforcement will be there to protect us
[42:23] right along which thousand times and it can be a determined in terms of having people
[42:29] see that they can get away with it.
[42:32] If we can lessen that, I know that our residents will be very happy to know that we're doing
[42:37] our utmost best to protect them.
[42:40] And so I think they're likely to say it's worth the money.
[42:44] And I hope that we would be able to be in place as soon as possible.
[42:53] Thank you.
[42:55] Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[43:08] If you can actually stop a criminal or if you can trace a vehicle, you know, immediately,
[43:17] because their caravan is safe and just coming on the crime.
[43:20] They can see you move from there on to meet other funds.
[43:24] So, is use in our choice with a stop to any need at least, uh, to prevent additional
[43:31] crime.
[43:32] So, I'm really looking forward to seeing this, um, right, so I'm going to see if there's
[43:40] anyone on the phone that would like to speak during public comment on this item.
[43:44] Is there anyone there that would like to speak on this item?
[43:48] I would like to make a comment.
[43:50] Okay.
[43:51] Could you state your name for me?
[43:57] Okay, Barbara, you have three minutes, please.
[44:02] My question to this is, is this similar to the red light cameras?
[44:07] Are you guys going to use them for that purpose as well to capture if we are ready red lights
[44:14] or if our tags aren't paid and things like that?
[44:18] And my question question is, will there be a sign that says, you know how I used to have
[44:23] a sign that said this was a red light camera, that you know that your information is being
[44:27] given to the government as a constituent that I don't do anything wrong, I feel that if
[44:35] I go through an intersection and you're capturing my stuff, I should be known that I'm in
[44:40] Please enter your pen followed by the pound or hash.
[44:44] If you do not know your pen, please enter pound or hash.
[44:55] Sorry, Barbara.
[44:56] I think I can answer that question.
[45:00] Input is invalid. You entered one. Please enter your pin, followed by the pound or hash. If you do not know your pin, please enter pound or hash.
[45:12] You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. Yeah, it's coming. Thank you.
[45:19] Yes, I'm trying
[45:23] this meeting is right to me. I'm sorry, Valentin. I'm sorry, Valentin. Could you hold? We have another person during public comment right now.
[45:35] So, this is Keith Metsler, City Manager, to answer the question of the previous speaker.
[45:42] The answer to the first question, which I remember to be, are these like the red light
[45:47] cameras?
[45:48] The answer to that is no.
[45:50] These are cameras specifically and only intended to be used as license plate readers.
[45:57] so video will not be used to do any other traffic enforcement other than just
[46:05] to collect data on license plates and vehicles driving through that are
[46:10] connected to those license plates. As to the signs I don't believe we have
[46:15] signs scoped because again they're not operating like those those red light
[46:24] cameras.
[46:34] think that answers the questions.
[46:37] Barbara do you have any further questions?
[46:51] Barbara? Let me just jump in for all my leadership department heads on the
[46:59] Council's line please mute your phones.
[47:05] This is Barbara. I'm good. Thank you.
[47:07] All right. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to speak on this item during public comment for item 11?
[47:21] Okay. There's no, but no further comments on that. So Madam Mayor, if you would like a motion to ask for a motion in a second.
[47:30] Yes. That is my request. The motion in a second.
[47:35] I saw a booth staff recommendations on this.
[47:40] Second.
[47:41] second. I have a motion by Councilmember Cox seconded by Mayor Garcia is there
[47:47] any further comments?
[47:52] I would like to state something as well. I don't know if
[48:00] the response that he provided Barbara was founded with the agreement for the
[48:07] contract for the contract that we are about to initiate and to an affirmative or
[48:13] not. And so it was stated that it's only intended as a license plate reader to collect data
[48:19] and license plates, connect the license plate, which means in the interpretation that it
[48:24] wouldn't be used for any of the fashion. However, I didn't read that within the contract
[48:30] or within what was going to occur. So I don't know if that's something that means clarification.
[48:35] But again, as a misnomer, someone that's known to voices, different voices, I am going to
[48:44] go ahead and vote in the not be affirmative because we have enough people to vote for it.
[48:50] And I think it's still really strong about the privacy violation of a lot of these issues
[48:55] being regarded within the streets as misappropriated.
[49:00] And we're not going to have oversight from the city of Vistica that it looks like.
[49:04] So it's kind of just going to be dangling there and just going to be asking for information
[49:08] to make sure that that is essentially not happening.
[49:11] And so that's the comment that I wanted to let go, but please don't misinterpret it.
[49:16] That I want more time, because that is not what I am saying, and it shouldn't be interpreted
[49:20] as that fashion.
[49:21] I have different concerns that the values of other people also need to be spoken and my
[49:25] voice is going to be directed towards that voice.
[49:28] Thank you.
[49:28] Is there any further comment?
[49:34] They have a motion by Council Member Cox, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favour?
[49:40] Council Member Cox?
[49:43] Council Member Gomez?
[49:46] No.
[49:47] Council Member Jones?
[49:50] Aye.
[49:52] Mayor Pro Temmer-Marras?
[49:58] Mayor Garcia?
[50:03] Motion carries with Council Member Gomez voting no.
[50:10] Now item number 12.
[50:11] This
[50:14] is an update on the city's approach to the coronavirus COVID-19, any actions at the
[50:20] discretion of the city council.
[50:25] Do you want to take or do you want to ask questions?
[50:29] Madam Mayor and members of the council since February 18th, which was the originating date or when
[50:38] the council asked that we report on what we were doing related to COVID-19. That was at a time
[50:48] we certainly before we really started feeling the issue locally and certainly before we had done
[50:58] a number of things which is which includes having declared a local emergency of course the
[51:04] emergencies have extended worldwide and are felt nationally and at our state levels as well.
[51:14] And of course, since we met last for that purpose of ratifying the emergency declaration,
[51:21] staff had gone so far as to stand up its emergency operations center.
[51:29] that EOC as we call it is still stood up today and still being staffed largely by
[51:35] your leadership and their support staff. And since having been stood up it was
[51:42] stood up for what started out to be four primary goals. Those goals being to
[51:47] attend to the homeless populations need to ensure that all of our employees had
[51:53] adequate PPE in providing their services to the community.
[51:58] We also identified a goal too and we managed this goal to monitor all of the state federal
[52:07] county regulations that seem to be changing on a daily basis and, of course, managing
[52:14] our human resources all with the intent of better readying ourselves in case this pandemic
[52:21] pandemic turns into something even more dramatic than what we're experiencing, which in our
[52:27] minds would include needing additional facilities for COVID patients, whether symptomatic or
[52:34] tested positive. So we've been operating in an EOC environment. City Hall has been closed,
[52:41] city facilities have been closed, city parks have been closed to the public, yet we still
[52:46] provide the services to our residents.
[52:51] Because the City Council asked for an update as to what we were doing, staff put together
[52:58] this staff report that we had done since the drafting of this staff report, and that
[53:07] was March 26th.
[53:09] And unless there's any specific questions on that, I think you can see that we've done
[53:16] quite a lot when it comes projects that are consistent with the goals that I
[53:24] had just outlined but in addition to that and since March 26th I'll share with
[53:32] you that for our non-sheltered homeless population we had since added to
[53:38] additional sanitation stations or used by our homeless population. We now have
[53:44] about eight sanitation stations deployed in areas that are frequented by our homeless
[53:49] population. The purpose of these sanitation stations is to improve hygiene and order
[53:55] to reduce the spread of COVID-19 to our homeless population and broader community.
[54:00] City employees continue to monitor the sanitation stations for use and damage, and the sanitation
[54:07] stations are service daily. Code enforcement officers are used and have reported that most
[54:13] Most incantement occupants have continued to utilize the provided trash bags and trash
[54:18] receptacles and have seen incantement clean up activities in action.
[54:23] A map of the location and details listing the resources available at each of the sanitation
[54:28] stations is now available on our city website which is www.victavilleca.gov forward slash corona
[54:35] virus.
[54:35] In addition to that, and specific to our sheltered homeless, we've also done a lot to
[54:45] attend to that population.
[54:46] We've ordered and provided additional gloves, masks, thermometers, hepophilters, anthepophilters
[54:53] to the local homeless shelter sites.
[54:56] We have three that we're working with closely.
[54:58] We've also compiled a list of more than 60 individual volunteers including 21 nursing
[55:06] students to assist the homeless shelter with operations and expand those operations
[55:12] to city shelter sites if and when activated.
[55:18] One other thing that we've done because our homeless population is very unique.
[55:23] we've also purchased a number of canals and supplies in preparation for
[55:29] potential to shelter animals and accompanying homeless individuals at our
[55:34] city's shelter sites if and when activated. Beyond that our
[55:39] Vickerville ELC continues to coordinate with and support of our county local
[55:44] agencies. This was evident that the recent COVID-19 testing event the county
[55:50] hosted at the Fairgrounds last Thursday. Our city staff coordinated the site plan staging
[55:56] and traffic control plan. We provided logistical support to include restrooms and our facility
[56:01] staff, public works crew and police and fire provided support to ensure this important
[56:06] event for our community ran smoothly. Our continued coordination with the county agencies
[56:13] is critical in preparing to adequately respond to community needs during the forthcoming
[56:18] peak of this pandemic where government authorized alternative care sites may need to be mobilized
[56:24] in the short term. In accordance with the city's MOU with the County of San
[56:28] Medina, we identified and assessed three city facilities that can be utilized by the Department
[56:34] of Public Health for medical shelter sites if needed. We also communicate regularly with our
[56:40] local hospitals, nursing homes and other local agencies to ensure a coordinated response.
[56:47] What's amazing is the volunteer outreach that's occurred and I'll share with you that many in our community may be wondering how they can get involved and help our community during this difficult time.
[56:58] Our warming shelter operator is in need of assistance.
[57:02] Assistance volunteers are needed in a variety of capacities like meal prep, mentoring, and much more.
[57:08] For those volunteers interested, there's information available where they can contact us on our website.
[57:14] Again, at Victorville CA, Ford slash coronavirus, where we can make connections there to get our volunteers connected.
[57:24] One thing that I think is fairly cool and it's something that I'm very proud of that our team has been able to put together, especially as the rules have changed so dramatically on a daily basis, really, with respect to who can operate, how certain businesses can operate,
[57:43] who should shut down. We've conducted a business survey of our local business.
[57:49] We've reached out to an additional 426 businesses to promote awareness and
[57:54] compliance with state county orders directing their closure or operational
[57:58] modifications. The second round of outreach has been focused on salons, barbershops,
[58:05] massage parlors, and smoke shops. The first round of outreach was to restaurants,
[58:09] restaurants, bars, and nightclubs, movie theaters, gyms, and fitness studios.
[58:14] And as of April 6th, we have outreach to a total of 785 local businesses.
[58:20] And I'll share with you that, as we've done that,
[58:24] we've done that in such a way as to promote and encourage compliance,
[58:29] as opposed to the perception that may be out there that we're out there shutting people down.
[58:34] We are not.
[58:35] We're actually using this as an opportunity for our code enforcement folks
[58:39] and our inspection personnel that's helping out as well to actually make good connections
[58:43] with our business so that of course once this is all set and done and we're done with
[58:47] the pandemic, we have a relationship there to build upon and so we've really been encouraging
[58:53] compliance in from our business community. It's fairly impressive just the amount of
[58:58] voluntary compliance that we have and the one thing that we've done to bring life to
[59:03] this as we've actually created, we actually store in real-time data on our GIS system.
[59:12] Actual status of what businesses are open and which businesses are operating in compliance,
[59:19] which ones are not. So we actually have real-time data because of those efforts.
[59:25] Interestingly, and it's gained some news out at the airport, but due to the economic slowdown,
[59:30] Delta and Southwest Airlines have requested parking space in SELA, and we've
[59:35] seen a total of 75-year-round in aircraft that have been accommodating the
[59:40] airlines and the businesses out at the airport to fulfill the needing for a
[59:47] place to locate all of those airplanes. The silver lining in this story is that
[59:51] ComAbb, which is one of our valued tenants out at SELA, is a company servicing
[59:56] these grounded planes. They're seeing an influx in business. In fact, it's
[1:00:00] I'm out has been able to retain all of its employees during this time and higher employees that were laid off by other airport tenant companies. Despite the pandemic,
[1:00:30] One of the things that we did do just to accommodate the aviation airline industry is we actually
[1:00:35] did shut down one of our two runways, runway 321 as shut down to effectively serve as a parking
[1:00:43] location. We've actually modified our customer service relative to utility shutoffs.
[1:00:59] We've
[1:00:59] institute any utility shut-offs and really that's intended to make it easier on
[1:01:07] those that are affected negatively by this pandemic. And then finally we manage
[1:01:13] so much of our communications through our website and through social media and
[1:01:19] I would encourage you as a council and certainly the public that's on the phone
[1:01:23] because there's so much evolving on a daily basis, so much changing whether
[1:01:28] Whether it's our website at victoryvillca.gov forward slash coronavirus or our Facebook, Twitter
[1:01:35] or Instagram.
[1:01:36] We're posting information there daily just on the changing environment and landscape
[1:01:41] that we're dealing with.
[1:01:42] And I know it was a lot and it was a mouthful to throw action, but that's really the update
[1:01:48] that I have to offer that has occurred since we actually drafted the update for you that's
[1:01:53] in the staff report on March 26th.
[1:01:55] So, I'm available, and certainly members of the EOC section team are available as well
[1:02:01] for any questions you have.
[1:02:04] Councilmember Cawks, do you have any questions?
[1:02:10] Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions?
[1:02:14] Yes, just one.
[1:02:16] I noticed that we're doing a lot for the homeless, but I'm thinking about our senior community
[1:02:22] and a lot of times our seniors aren't able to get out or drive themselves, are we taking
[1:02:28] any steps to lean into them.
[1:02:38] Sophie Smith, who is serving as the EOC director, I can let her address them.
[1:02:44] Yes, Council Member Jones, Mayor and Council, we do have staff that are constantly working with our local nonprofits.
[1:02:52] We already had established relationships with those that provide services to seniors via our CDBG program.
[1:03:01] And so our staff is in constant communication with those providers.
[1:03:06] to make sure that they have what they need as well as I believe there's a dedicated section on our website as well.
[1:03:15] So we are attending to that vulnerable population as well.
[1:03:20] Perfect. Thank you. That's all I have. Madam Clerk.
[1:03:23] Council Member Gomez, do you have any questions?
[1:03:29] For the COVID-19, right?
[1:03:31] Correct.
[1:03:32] Well, I had a couple of things that I wanted to.
[1:03:35] I spoke with Keith earlier as questions and I think it's merit for at least some of it
[1:03:42] to be released to the public who watches us through different means.
[1:03:47] And one of the questions was that personally as a council member and the public servant
[1:03:53] I was feeling disconnected in terms of what my city was doing despite the fact that I did
[1:03:57] get numerous tech about COVID-19 and the homeless issue and the EOC in preparation of
[1:04:05] doing a couple of things, but notwithstanding that what was happening was this information
[1:04:13] was not feeling the gap for me to be able to fill up the gap for my community as a whole.
[1:04:21] So the marketing, although it's allowed that the city of Vickerville is doing and I found
[1:04:26] that out today, it's not being marketed and as a council member, I think our community
[1:04:32] so disconnected as well and how will we bridging that and how can we work towards something
[1:04:38] to bring the community up close or kind of like LA, does the Kumo does it over there in
[1:04:44] New York, I mean the president is doing it at the mass level but our local city seems
[1:04:48] to be very disconnected just getting the influx of information from outsourced information
[1:04:54] and not within the bounds of the city of Victorville.
[1:04:59] And Madam Mayor and members of the council,
[1:05:02] one of the things that I did share with councilmember Gomez,
[1:05:06] notwithstanding all that we've done.
[1:05:09] And I actually have to give a lot of credit
[1:05:11] to our public information team because in my opinion,
[1:05:16] which is based upon what I've directly seen,
[1:05:19] they've gone above and beyond in terms
[1:05:22] of communicating our message.
[1:05:24] I think in comparison though in relative to some of the examples councilmember Gomez gave I
[1:05:33] will share with you that our role is slightly different than some of those big cities or states
[1:05:41] or the national government with the president.
[1:05:45] We, as a city, are largely focused on our local residents.
[1:05:52] We don't have a public health director, for example.
[1:05:55] So we're not in a position where we've got to speak daily to provide clarity to all of
[1:06:03] the regulations we just created.
[1:06:05] We're not creating regulations.
[1:06:06] We're not in that role.
[1:06:07] So that compared to say the mayor in Los Angeles, again, our role is different given the type of responsibility and resource that we have.
[1:06:19] So I certainly believe what we've done is fairly impressive, not only in terms of response but in terms of how we've actually communicated the public.
[1:06:31] And one thing that you're privileged to,
[1:06:36] I could share with the public, is of course
[1:06:39] when things are happening in real time, I'm fairly regular in texting you and sharing
[1:06:46] with you information that ultimately gets released to our social media masses.
[1:06:52] So with that, I would say that I believe we're doing a lot.
[1:06:57] It may be different than what you see on Channel 7, because I would compare our role as being
[1:07:03] dramatically different than a big city or a state or or even the federal government.
[1:07:09] So hopefully that helps.
[1:07:10] Keith, if I can add to that, is it
[1:07:16] okay to add to that mayor?
[1:07:20] Yeah.
[1:07:23] Your PIO is on the line and we actually have a tool that we use that helps measure what
[1:07:31] kind of discourse and the sentiment of the community and where the majority of information
[1:07:39] is coming from on COVID from the community and our PIO monitors that daily so
[1:07:46] Sue Jones I think you're on because we are taking the pulse of the community via
[1:07:53] Zen City can you just share a little insight into what your what your dad is
[1:07:59] showing you as far as our community response and our role in that?
[1:08:05] Sure I'd be
[1:08:06] I'd be happy to just to add to what our Deputy City Manager, Sophie, just mentioned.
[1:08:13] We do use N City, which is a monitoring tool that basically collects mention of the City
[1:08:20] of Victorville in a multitude of online resources that could be news outlets, social media, blogs,
[1:08:28] et cetera, and it compiles not only mention of the City, but gives a sentiment rating to
[1:08:34] it, and it uses analytics to also, you can see how much of the information is coming from
[1:08:42] official sources, meaning the city, how much of the discussion is coming from unofficial
[1:08:48] sources, et cetera, and we have been looking at it very carefully.
[1:08:53] It also is divided by topic, so it could be the city communication about COVID-19 versus
[1:09:03] medical issues, or community outreach, or assistance, etc.
[1:09:11] And our analytics are trending very positively.
[1:09:16] We've gotten very positive ratings, like 23%, positive, and a mere 6% negative,
[1:09:25] with our city response and our overall communication to the public related to COVID-19,
[1:09:32] which from my experience in using the tool for over a year now, that's a very positive rating.
[1:09:41] Looking at just the city response, it's trending very positive
[1:09:47] when we're talking about city communication and outreach to the community.
[1:09:51] Again, that's trending at about 23% positive as well.
[1:09:58] If you want more specifics looking at different topics,
[1:10:03] We could say the releases have gone and gotten about 9,000 percent or 9,000 interactions.
[1:10:13] So when we declared an emergency, for example, 7,000 interactions to place, just on that one topic,
[1:10:22] looking at some of the others that are high.
[1:10:25] Some of the information about our firefighters that trended up to about 9,000 interactions on social media.
[1:10:35] have a lot of this course happening in the community and I would just you know encourage
[1:10:42] people to follow us. We're out on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter and we're not only talking
[1:10:48] about what the city is doing but we're also sharing advice, helpful resources that are
[1:10:58] as well
[1:10:59] a state CDC resource
[1:11:05] specifically for COVID-19 at VictorvilleCA.gov slash coronavirus.
[1:11:11] And there we have a multitude of resources.
[1:11:14] We have some that are targeting just business assistance for businesses that may be encountering
[1:11:20] some challenges, financial aid system
[1:11:26] advice,
[1:11:30] specific response to the city level, such as
[1:11:33] our outreach.
[1:11:39] Okay.
[1:11:40] Thank you for the information.
[1:11:41] which draws me to two more questions to ask.
[1:11:45] Are these methods only used to do technological tools?
[1:11:48] We know that there is a digital divide
[1:11:50] in America for the purpose of this question.
[1:11:53] And has the city considered other means
[1:11:55] besides technology and what is it
[1:11:57] that America propensives in this tool
[1:11:59] that are garnering for the average 130,000 residents
[1:12:02] in the city of Victorville?
[1:12:03] In other words, I'm just saying,
[1:12:04] let's not forget that, yes, we are using technology,
[1:12:08] but a lot of individuals probably more than half
[1:12:11] of our populations is not connected or doesn't have a mean.
[1:12:14] So we're relying on probably a lot of the millennials who are more technologically savvy
[1:12:20] and probably individuals who use technology to outsource this information and hopefully
[1:12:26] it's dwindled down to how much individuals are hearing.
[1:12:31] And so that is why I'm asking the question not to clear that victimhood isn't doing anything
[1:12:35] great because it is.
[1:12:36] I'm just also trying to capture that there's other ways or other categories that we
[1:12:41] perhaps 50 missing, but although we're catching probably 100% of one aspect of a sub-copy.
[1:12:48] But I appreciate it.
[1:12:53] Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris, do you have any questions?
[1:12:59] I simply would like to say that I thanks our city manager and his staff and all the volunteers
[1:13:06] that have helped in this crisis and I am so proud of being a part of it and I thank you for the
[1:13:14] information chief. It was wonderful and excellent to know that we are doing the
[1:13:19] Q and and your staff are doing such a good job to benefit our residents. Thank
[1:13:25] you so much. God bless you.
[1:13:30] Thank you. Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[1:13:37] I know I don't have any questions but I also would like to say thank you to
[1:13:41] for city managers, and to staff, and to be sure,
[1:13:46] and to everyone involved in everything that they have done,
[1:13:51] you know, within our city.
[1:13:54] And by keeping the public informed of all the development
[1:13:59] that's taken place within our city,
[1:14:01] regarding the COVID-19, not only does the list somewhere else,
[1:14:05] but it's just been, oh, you know, that this will be,
[1:14:10] We can actually put an answer there, you know, I have heard from some of you for you
[1:14:17] just to be very true that seated, for everything that they seated that seated is doing
[1:14:23] to combat this crisis that we have, you know.
[1:14:28] And I just want to say thank you.
[1:14:30] I know there has been so many hours and so much work involved here.
[1:14:35] And sometimes we forget to be thankful for those that really do go out and do more than
[1:14:42] like a part of the crime and at the risk of crime and our first responders risk in their
[1:14:48] life.
[1:14:49] Just trying to take life, whether it means risking theirs, I just want to say thank you to
[1:14:56] everyone.
[1:14:57] one, other place you and next, thank you.
[1:15:07] Thank
[1:15:10] you, Council, and I just have to say thank you to my team. You've got a good team here. They've got good ideas. They work well together and they certainly accomplish a lot. We couldn't do it without the rest of the rest of the team on this.
[1:15:31] I'm going to check to see if there's anyone on the line that would like to speak on this.
[1:15:35] I have a question
[1:15:40] if it was a time for questions.
[1:15:43] I didn't know that we weren't going to have a separate time if we would do for comments.
[1:15:47] So since others have, I would like that opportunity.
[1:15:50] I can't after the public comment.
[1:15:53] When
[1:16:01] it was time for asking questions, I asked questions and didn't make comments knowing
[1:16:04] that that normally comes later as a separate delivery.
[1:16:09] It does.
[1:16:10] So I'd like to at least have an opportunity to make comments.
[1:16:15] So I
[1:16:20] just echoed a sentiment of all of my colleagues and I would like to add to that too, that
[1:16:25] I'm very, very proud of the way that Keith Metzler is the executive team and all of our other
[1:16:32] employees have collaborated and worked cooperatively to produce what comes across as very admirable
[1:16:38] results that we see today. And I'm particularly proud that this city makes its employees a priority
[1:16:47] after that. When they're safe and well, our community gets the benefit of greater assistances and
[1:16:54] protection. Thank you Madam Clerk.
[1:16:58] And then my, I actually made a, I actually asked the question.
[1:17:04] And there was an answer. So there was a excuse to be a comment. It wasn't. I was asking how many
[1:17:10] other tools this I've technology was being used. So please don't take my question as a comment,
[1:17:16] as it was a question, but it was just not answered. And I still have a comment for the comment section.
[1:17:21] Yeah.
[1:17:29] I don't think we have time to continue today.
[1:17:34] Yes, I have Sophie Smith is here.
[1:17:38] So the primary communication tools to answer the question have been social media, website,
[1:17:48] you know, I wish we had the time to make calls out to a lot of people, we just don't, we
[1:18:00] and lengthy reassuring message to all of the residents of the city and businesses that
[1:18:06] is on our landing page of the website, which was very well received according to our
[1:18:12] insight on that.
[1:18:13] So, you know, between the video and what we could with technology, there's actual, you
[1:18:19] know, press releases that we've done, so, you know, that goes to print media, etc.
[1:18:25] other than that I'm not really sure of any other practical ways that we could
[1:18:32] do more outreach but we're absolutely welcome to anyone's ideas on what we
[1:18:36] can do additional to that.
[1:18:44] Thank you. Okay I'm going to check on the line to see
[1:18:48] if there's anyone who would like to speak on this item. Is there any public that
[1:18:52] wishes to speak at this time on this item number 12? Yes, Valentina I would
[1:18:57] like to speak.
[1:18:59] All right, Valentin, you have three minutes.
[1:19:05] I didn't know that we were back having meetings,
[1:19:11] but this form of having meetings to stay
[1:19:16] in contact with the pub
[1:19:23] that are eating that food because we cannot afford to have to be
[1:19:28] connected into the internet.
[1:19:33] Then our text,
[1:19:46] yes, they are doing everything they can,
[1:20:03] shouldn't be able to, we can and we
[1:20:05] should.
[1:20:05] But we always,
[1:20:10] I did not know that we were testing of
[1:20:23] street vendor.
[1:20:24] I had to walk over there and find out what was going on.
[1:20:31] The city or
[1:20:41] on Facebook are plotting this great event that they get.
[1:20:45] And it was a great event and they deserve to be a flood.
[1:20:49] It's deserved to be notified because it is our lives.
[1:21:08] Is there anyone else that would like to speak on this item?
[1:21:16] Hi Paul, you have three minutes please.
[1:21:20] It's going to be very brief but good evening everybody.
[1:21:23] I'm glad to hear everybody. Now the
[1:21:26] airbites are going very well.
[1:21:31] Yes,
[1:21:31] dates on COVID-19, COVID-19,
[1:21:34] good
[1:21:51] reason. They must wear a
[1:21:55] fine up.
[1:22:02] Council,
[1:22:08] this afternoon I believe it
[1:22:10] was. So that's a fairly recent one,
[1:22:12] but yes, my understanding is that the
[1:22:14] directive from the county health
[1:22:15] director came out today requiring.
[1:22:18] Now everybody that leaves their house
[1:22:20] has to wear a mask. Now as far as the
[1:22:22] penalties, I'm not exactly sure, but
[1:22:24] Sophie is shaking her head and saying yes they could be fine you could be
[1:22:30] fine as much as a thousand dollars okay that one just came out today I just
[1:22:38] saw it on face yes I just saw it on Facebook and I just you know I know that
[1:22:42] they're is
[1:22:58] there anyone else on the line that would like to speak on this item
[1:23:09] may I think those are all the speakers I have this item was presented with no
[1:23:15] action required so this was for the information purposes only but I do believe
[1:23:18] there was still comments that council members wanted to make.
[1:23:25] So council member Cox did you have
[1:23:27] any further comments?
[1:23:37] The comment period is five minutes.
[1:23:51] Okay council member Jones do you have any
[1:23:53] further comments? For
[1:23:56] asking I do not. Council member Gomez do you have any comments?
[1:24:03] Yes I want to
[1:24:05] My colleagues are allowing this agenda items to go through when there was motion and setting all personal issues aside, I really am appreciative of it going through and with COVID-19, I'd like to know if we can get back to partner with outside sources.
[1:24:20] I know we have some partnerships, but the partnerships that I'm asking to see if it's adjusted with entities, organizations, social media outlets, news sources, and anything else possible to have council report out.
[1:24:34] and become that space of the community,
[1:24:36] because as you can see, a lot of the public comment,
[1:24:41] if we were to have a formula,
[1:24:44] and we only had five commentaries,
[1:24:45] that one person is seeking for a significant amount
[1:24:49] of individual, and it's so strongly
[1:24:51] that the space is not out there,
[1:24:54] and the representatives are being blamed,
[1:24:56] hence I'm being blamed for not being out there,
[1:24:59] showing space, I think there's a merit
[1:25:02] to that discussion. As I said, if the community feels rest out, perhaps you can have some voluntary
[1:25:10] protocols perhaps I can do practice. I would hope that perhaps there's an uplining number
[1:25:17] at 24.7.
[1:25:22] And I as a public servant have felt a bit disconnected myself. But what the city
[1:25:27] has been doing, but please don't take this as anything. The city has not done anything.
[1:25:31] that's not what I'm saying. And the council members are privileged luckily to have a
[1:25:35] cell phone number of city operatives, however the community is not. So this is a way
[1:25:40] to cut it. Let's see what we can if we are able to do anything with the
[1:25:45] confines of what we have in limited resources. Thank you. Mayor Pro Temmer,
[1:25:51] Mayor, do you have any further comments?
[1:25:56] No. Mayor Garcia, do you have any further
[1:25:58] comments?
[1:26:02] No, thank you. I don't. Okay. There was no action required. This was
[1:26:05] just to receive and file, so we can move on to number 13.
[1:26:11] This is that the City Council approve and amendment number two to the consultant professional
[1:26:17] services provider agreement with Albert Grover and associates by an account.
[1:26:21] I'm sorry, an amount not to exceed of $125,000 for traffic engineering services.
[1:26:29] Go ahead and ask council members if they have questions.
[1:26:32] Council member Cox, do you have any questions?
[1:26:37] Yes, I understand that all the funds will be coming from Fund No. 250, which is Measure I, is that correct?
[1:26:50] Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions?
[1:26:55] I have none, thank you.
[1:26:58] Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions?
[1:27:03] What I'm looking at is this topic engineering services also in part of the street lighting for old town and other priority areas around the city?
[1:27:16] Ryan Gangler is our city engineer.
[1:27:18] Mayor, he drafted this item.
[1:27:20] He's probably the best one to answer that question and explain better what this contract
[1:27:25] is for.
[1:27:31] The City Council.
[1:28:33] Thank you.
[1:28:34] No further questions.
[1:28:36] Mayor Pro Temer.
[1:28:37] Mayor, do you have any questions?
[1:28:42] No, I don't.
[1:28:42] Thank you.
[1:28:43] Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[1:28:48] Not for anything.
[1:28:50] I'll check to see if there's any public that wishes to speak.
[1:28:53] Is there anyone that would like to speak on this item number 13?
[1:29:02] Okay, Valentin, you have three minutes.
[1:29:06] Okay, I'm seeing here that we're $1
[1:29:11] ,000 or not to exceed an amount already issued of $260,000.
[1:29:20] Is this correct?
[1:29:33] That's a study.
[1:29:42] That's Slur.
[1:29:44] Whereas our city engineer, he might have a better sense.
[1:29:47] I'm not exactly sure he would have done that analysis as it relates to this contract.
[1:29:51] This is more directly related to just maintaining our existing service levels.
[1:29:56] with Brian and you offer something on that.
[1:30:01] I haven't done a comparison to other cities. I know there are a number of cities that use an
[1:30:09] in-house in
[1:30:29] many years.
[1:30:58] I thank you for that explanation. I'm not looking to reinvent the wheel. I'm looking to our
[1:31:05] sizes so that we have a smooth right here in
[1:31:12] the city and how you've done this the same way for many years. I appreciate your hard work.
[1:31:22] The same level for
[1:31:26] the same amount of money that other cities are getting for
[1:31:31] for their same studies and their same service.
[1:31:37] We can compare other cities are getting.
[1:31:42] Is that in your realm of operation?
[1:31:57] Your realm of operation?
[1:32:08] This is public comment for the particular agenda item.
[1:32:13] I mean, we can continue to dialogue if you're okay with it,
[1:32:16] but I think we can answer the question.
[1:32:22] Question with the answer.
[1:32:24] I think we're given
[1:32:27] level of,
[1:32:32] we're not comparing to other people.
[1:32:34] For
[1:32:46] everybody on the phones,
[1:32:47] No matter which line of Iran, can you mute your phones?
[1:33:03] Valentina, let's have another question.
[1:33:06] Everybody
[1:33:10] felt that the question was answered.
[1:33:13] Okay.
[1:33:14] I would like to have
[1:33:20] this because I didn't understand the answer.
[1:33:27] He could not give us a comparison and I don't think that's fair to less tax.
[1:33:38] Okay, is there any other speakers I would like to speak on this item?
[1:33:43] there is
[1:33:46] someone okay
[1:33:51] okay there's no more speaker so Madam Mayor if you
[1:33:56] would like to request a motion in a second I have
[1:34:13] a motion by council member
[1:34:15] Cox seconded by council member Jones is there any further comments by
[1:34:22] All right, Council Member Cox, do you have comments?
[1:34:25] Yes,
[1:34:48] you can't compare
[1:35:23] the interstate running through the
[1:35:29] hills
[1:35:29] would be almost impossible to find,
[1:35:33] but it'd
[1:35:39] be a waste of time.
[1:35:50] Council Member Gomez, do you have any?
[1:35:51] Thank you.
[1:35:53] Council Member Gomez, do you have any further comments?
[1:35:57] Yes, so looking at this item with 125,
[1:36:00] with an extension of the contract,
[1:36:03] I know my colleagues at least abuse,
[1:36:07] meaning two are interested in getting feedback in the priorities of the street lighting because
[1:36:13] we haven't had anything thus far and this seems to be the closest thing as proximal to
[1:36:18] getting any feedback from what's happening with the five different zones although one
[1:36:22] has been being worked on so I could suggest on behalf of a majority of us to see something
[1:36:29] of that level whether it's a memo format or a police exclamation what's happening to
[1:36:33] of their own. It would be greatly appreciated if one of the things I am in the City of
[1:36:39] China isn't really starting here. So if I know where the light is on, I'll turn them
[1:36:43] on, but someone could just tell me where the light is coming from, and if not, don't worry
[1:36:47] about it, I guess the meeting is going to be over soon anyway, so I just want to make sure
[1:36:51] you guys can hear that. Thank you.
[1:36:57] Councilmember Jones, do you have any comments?
[1:37:02] I have none. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor's, do you have any comments?
[1:37:15] Thank you, I do have a motion by Councilmember Cox and a second by Councilmember Jones.
[1:37:22] All those in favor? Councilmember Cox?
[1:37:25] Yes.
[1:37:26] Councilmember Gomez?
[1:37:29] Aye.
[1:37:30] Councilmember Jones?
[1:37:35] Mayor Pro Temer-Mirrors?
[1:37:40] Mayor Garcia?
[1:37:44] Motion passes unanimously.
[1:37:46] Now
[1:37:51] we are on to item 14 that the Southern California Logistics Airport Authority grant an access easement for the benefit of the parcel designated as APN 0460-242-05.
[1:38:07] Madam Mayor, I'll ask questions of council members, council member Cox. Do you have any questions?
[1:38:15] No.
[1:38:16] So councilmember Jones do you have any questions no thank you councilmember Gomez do you have any questions
[1:38:29] Mayor pro. Tim Ramirez do you have any questions no
[1:38:35] mayor Garcia do you have any questions
[1:38:41] Okay, I'll ask to see if there's any public on this on the phone
[1:38:46] Is there anyone that would like to speak on this item number 14?
[1:38:54] There's no one that wishes to speak Madam Mayor if you would like the motion in a second.
[1:39:02] I request a motion in a second for item 14.
[1:39:05] I was invited to stop with me to make motion as recommended by staff.
[1:39:12] Second.
[1:39:13] To have a motion by Council Member Gomez, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favor?
[1:39:19] Council Member Cox?
[1:39:21] Aye.
[1:39:21] Aye.
[1:39:23] Council Member Gomez.
[1:39:26] Aye.
[1:39:27] Council Member Jones.
[1:39:29] Aye.
[1:39:31] Mayor Pro Temer-Meras.
[1:39:36] And Mayor Garcia,
[1:39:41] that motion passes unanimously.
[1:39:45] Thank you.
[1:39:49] Toronto Item Number 15.
[1:39:52] The consideration of a settlement agreement between the city,
[1:39:56] the Victorville Water District and Western Pacific Housing,
[1:39:59] D.R. Horton and various prior and current owners of track 14721 to establish ownership
[1:40:06] and an application of prepaid water meter and connection fee for said track.
[1:40:12] The recommendation is that the City Council and Board of Directors approve the attached
[1:40:16] settlement agreement for execution by the Mayor and District Chairman.
[1:40:22] Mayor, I'll go ahead and ask if there's any questions of council members.
[1:40:26] Members? Councilmember Cox, do you have any questions? No questions. Councilmember Jones,
[1:40:34] do you have any questions?
[1:40:37] No thank you. Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions.
[1:40:42] No thank you. Mayor Proto-Mermaris, do you have any questions?
[1:40:49] No thank you. Mayor Garcia,
[1:40:52] do you have any questions?
[1:40:55] No questions. All right. Let me see if there is anyone on the
[1:40:59] phone that has wants to speak on this item? Is there anyone on the phone that would like to speak on this item?
[1:41:05] Number 15,
[1:41:10] I don't hear anyone, so Madam Mayor, if you would like a motion?
[1:41:18] I'm requesting a motion in a second for item 15.
[1:41:23] Yes, Madam Mayor, I move that the City Council and Board of Directors approve the settlement agreement
[1:41:37] I have a motion by Councilmember Jones, seconded by Councilmember Gomez, all those in
[1:41:43] favor?
[1:41:43] Councilmember Cox?
[1:41:47] Councilmember Gomez?
[1:41:50] Aye.
[1:41:51] Councilmember Jones,
[1:41:55] Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris,
[1:42:00] Mayor Garcia.
[1:42:05] Motion passes unanimously and we move on to item 16.
[1:42:12] that the City Council approve and an additional appropriation of $100,000 to H.R. Green Pacific
[1:42:18] for an on-call plan and map check services, approve amendment number 1 to the Consultant
[1:42:24] Professional Services Provider Agreement with H.R. Green Pacific by an amount not to exceed
[1:42:29] $100,000 for on-call plan and map check services.
[1:42:33] Is there any questions for staff? Councilmember Cox.
[1:42:40] From
[1:42:46] that this is cost neutral, but
[1:42:50] especially in turn, we approve this.
[1:42:56] My understanding, that's correct, I'm sure it's right here.
[1:43:01] Yes, there.
[1:43:08] Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions?
[1:43:12] No, thank you.
[1:43:14] Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions?
[1:43:17] Yes, for clarification, is this the initial process to formulate the assessment district?
[1:43:26] That is item number 8.
[1:43:33] No, no question.
[1:43:34] Okay.
[1:43:35] Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor, is do you have any questions?
[1:43:40] No, thank you.
[1:43:42] And then Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[1:43:46] No, question.
[1:43:48] Okay.
[1:43:49] Is there anyone on the line that wishes to speak on this item number 16?
[1:43:55] There's no one.
[1:43:56] So, Madame Mayor, if you would like a motion.
[1:44:20] have a
[1:44:25] motion by Councilmember Cox and a second by Mayor Garcia.
[1:44:30] All those in favor?
[1:44:32] Councilmember Cox.
[1:44:36] Councilmember Gomez.
[1:44:39] Aye.
[1:44:40] Councilmember Jones.
[1:44:42] Aye.
[1:44:44] Mayor Pro Temmereras.
[1:44:49] Mayor Garcia.
[1:44:50] That
[1:44:55] motion passes unanimously.
[1:45:00] Number 17, we have contract amendment with American organics. The recommendation is that the City Council approve amendment number nine to increase the general services provider agreement with American organics by $36,000 for a total contract amount of $76,000.
[1:45:18] I will ask if council members have questions of staff council member Cox. Do you have any questions?
[1:45:33] Deligia council member Cox.
[1:45:40] I might have lost council member Cox. So we'll see yeah council member Jones. She's she's looking council member Jones. Are you there?
[1:45:52] Council member Gomez. Do you have any questions?
[1:45:59] and the law, I think, in regards to the law, I don't know if this is the same one, perhaps
[1:46:05] it is, and it's just coming to the fore us an item. Is that the case?
[1:46:12] Well, there is an element of law that basically is established why we're doing this, and there
[1:46:20] There's an assembly bill 1826 that does require us to start complying with certain
[1:46:28] organic disposal responsibilities, requirements, effectively the goal is to reduce the amount
[1:46:35] of organics that go to the landfill and we've put in place a program that now is working
[1:46:45] with our restaurants where we're taking the food waste and actually diverting that from
[1:46:49] the landfill to an American organics.
[1:46:53] This contract is being sought by staff because the dependency upon American organics now
[1:47:00] is expected to be longer than what was originally envisioned in part because the project proposed
[1:47:08] by Burntack, the longer-term solution to satisfying organics conversion program is under
[1:47:16] construction. It was anticipated to be complete by this month, but it won't be complete
[1:47:21] by this month. More likely, it won't be complete until June timeframe. Therefore, we need
[1:47:27] to amend the contract of the American Organic so that we can continue to send them our food
[1:47:32] please. Until such a time as our permanent solution is in place with her check over at
[1:47:38] the Murph.
[1:47:41] Well, thank you for that. Can I appreciate it?
[1:47:44] No further questions?
[1:47:46] Councilmember Cox, I think we lost you on item 17. Did you have any questions?
[1:47:54] I did not. I did not. They covered it back on the cell phone. I can barely hear everyone.
[1:47:57] So I'm dying again right now.
[1:47:59] Okay. Mayor.
[1:48:06] Okay. Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor, do you have any questions?
[1:48:13] No, ma'am.
[1:48:15] Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[1:48:17] I don't have any.
[1:48:18] I don't have any questions.
[1:48:20] All right.
[1:48:21] I don't have any questions.
[1:48:23] Okay.
[1:48:23] Let me see.
[1:48:24] Is there anyone on the phone that would like to speak on this item number 17?
[1:48:31] There was no one who would like to speak, Madame Mayor, if you want a motion.
[1:48:38] Yes, I do.
[1:48:38] Or maybe at this time I request the motion in a second for item 17.
[1:48:47] I'll go ahead and make the motion as recommended by staff.
[1:48:52] Second.
[1:48:54] I have a motion by Councilmember Gomez, seconded by Mayor Garcia.
[1:48:59] All those in favor.
[1:49:00] Let me see if Mr. Cox is back on the line.
[1:49:05] I'll buy a Facebook.
[1:49:06] Okay.
[1:49:07] Okay.
[1:49:07] Are you in favor of item number 17?
[1:49:12] Okay. Councilmember Gomez, are you in favor?
[1:49:17] Yes. Councilmember Jones, are you in favor?
[1:49:22] Yes. Mayor Pro Temer and Mara's, are you in favor?
[1:49:29] And Mayor Garcia, are you in favor?
[1:49:34] Yes. That motion passes unanimously.
[1:49:41] We're on to item number 18 that the City Council accept the petition and consent
[1:49:46] from Walton, California, a California-limited liability company as to an undivided 5% interest and WSF or West Creek LLC as to an undivided 95% interest as tenants in common, requesting formation of the West Creek Park Maintenance Assessment District No. 3 and Adopt Resolution No. 20-009 initiating proceedings for formation of West Creek Park MAD-3,
[1:50:15] pursuant to the provisions of the Landscaping and Lighting Act of 1972 and other applicable laws
[1:50:22] in ordering the preparation of an engineer's report.
[1:50:25] At this time I'll ask if Council has questions of staff.
[1:50:29] Council Member Cox, do you have any questions?
[1:50:33] No questions.
[1:50:35] Council Member Jones, do you have any questions?
[1:50:39] None, thank you Madam Clerk.
[1:50:41] Council Member Gomez, do you have any questions?
[1:50:45] Yes, I kind of spotted this as an L-MAT, but here's the title of the certificate, there's a part maintenance assessment district, which I don't think I think in the tenure of my council.
[1:50:59] So, if this is a maintenance assessment district for parts, must there be people who actually ask for it before we approve it?
[1:51:10] and then there's a key.
[1:51:11] What's that process for the park, same as an L-MAD?
[1:51:14] Madam Mayor, members of the council, yes.
[1:51:17] Actually, it is very similar to an L-MAD.
[1:51:19] And in fact, the process that we're going through right now
[1:51:24] is a very similar process to what you experienced
[1:51:28] when property owners over in the Ridgecrest,
[1:51:31] Ridge community asked to annex into an L-MAD
[1:51:37] over in that area. And so the process is very similar, you're just dealing with a different type
[1:51:43] of public improvement. And as to the property owners, in this particular case, it's the property
[1:51:50] owners that are actually petitioning to self-assess themselves as a part of this assessment district.
[1:51:58] And that's why when you look at recommendation one, and you see the divided interest, the 5%,
[1:52:04] and the 95% that actually represents 100%
[1:52:08] of the total ownership of those properties.
[1:52:11] So effectively, what is happening here
[1:52:14] is the property owners have petitioned the city
[1:52:19] to have a maintenance assessment district form
[1:52:22] in this particular case.
[1:52:23] It would be an assessment district
[1:52:25] for the purpose of maintaining a to be built park
[1:52:29] in this undeveloped property
[1:52:33] in the staff report identifies the number of tracks and there's quite a few tracks.
[1:52:38] I think it's 11 single family residential subdivisions to be precise.
[1:52:44] And so ultimately those properties will be built on anticipating that the specific plan
[1:52:51] identifies a park to be constructed to the benefit of those eventual residents.
[1:52:55] So this is the first step in a process where if the council approves this item and adopts
[1:53:03] the resolution. This would be step one in the process. You would effectively direct the
[1:53:08] city engineer to actually come back to you at a later date with an engineer's report.
[1:53:14] Ultimately if council satisfied at that point in time, there would be a resolution adopting.
[1:53:21] Ultimately there would be a vote by the property owners where votes would get tallied at a public
[1:53:28] hearing meeting on or about June 16th. So very similar to the landscape
[1:53:33] formation process, the only real difference here is that you're dealing with
[1:53:40] a different type of public improvement.
[1:53:45] I see. So one other question is, is it reasonable to say that all the parts that
[1:53:50] under a type of assessment, I've asked the amount of questions they can't be, but
[1:53:54] maybe perhaps some are under this type of size and others are perhaps
[1:53:59] and the community services department.
[1:54:04] That's correct not all parks are subject to a maintenance assessment district.
[1:54:09] There may be more than than one I can think of one,
[1:54:13] which is over in a subdivision called Las Haciendas.
[1:54:18] And if Janelle Davidson is on the phone,
[1:54:21] are there any other park maintenance assessment districts in the city other than Las Haciendas?
[1:54:32] Thank you no further questions.
[1:54:40] Okay. Yes.
[1:54:44] Yes. On the part number A,
[1:55:05] if you go down the extension of the
[1:55:09] automobile way,
[1:55:14] have a number of them.
[1:55:20] And then you look direction
[1:55:24] directions,
[1:55:25] where
[1:55:40] are they there?
[1:55:55] You can speak to that. It may also be Scott Webb as it
[1:55:58] relates to the specific plan and the types of conditions that get imposed out for
[1:56:06] this kind of development. Even though it's not a PUD, it's a specific plan and an
[1:56:10] exchange for things that they get in specific plan. There's usually certain types of
[1:56:17] amenities required to get it approved. So maybe with the combination of them they
[1:56:22] can answer the pocket park questions and what are some of these intended for.
[1:57:23] The page that Councilmember Cox
[1:58:20] utility.
[1:58:52] Mayor Potem or Mayor, do you have any
[1:58:54] questions?
[1:58:57] No, ma'am. Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[1:59:03] Not for. Okay. Let me see if there's anyone on the line that would like to speak
[1:59:08] on this item. Is there anyone who would like to speak on item 18?
[1:59:17] No, I would like to speak
[1:59:18] on this item, Madam Mayor, so there's a ready for a motion.
[1:59:24] Okay. I did have my request in motion and I said I can do item 18.
[1:59:38] I would like to accept the petition as consented by the recommendation of staff, along with the
[1:59:53] I do have a motion by Councilmember Gomez and a second by Councilmember Jones.
[2:00:00] All those in favor? Councilmember Cox?
[2:00:05] Councilmember Gomez?
[2:00:08] Aye. Councilmember Jones? Aye. Mayor Pro Temer-Meras?
[2:00:18] Mayor Garcia.
[2:00:23] Motion passes unanimously.
[2:00:27] We're on to item number 19. Request to accept strategic partnership program grant from Mojave Water Agency for Water Efficient Toilet Replacement Program and related authorizations.
[2:00:41] that the City Council adopt resolution number 20-008 entitled a resolution of the City Council of the City of Victorville, California accepting the Strategic Partnership Program Grant Award from the Mahavi Water Agency amending the annual budget for fiscal year 2019-2020 for associated additional revenue and expenses and related authorizations.
[2:01:06] This time I'll ask Council if they have questions of staff. Councilmember Cox?
[2:01:11] I think the same Cox, I have a question.
[2:01:13] Okay.
[2:01:14] On the second page, I'll pay $3.94 in the discussion. It quite out that these toilets will be made available to in.
[2:02:08] I know she's the Director of Community Services, and I'll continue to help us with that one.
[2:02:19] Applied to all kinds.
[2:02:25] Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions?
[2:02:30] No, thank you, Madam Clerk.
[2:02:32] Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions?
[2:02:36] I noticed that this particular item is to be adopted immediately and my question is
[2:02:42] procedurally why is something of this level as a resolution and immediacy rather than
[2:02:48] having a 30-day or any of the processes?
[2:02:52] Oh, this is City Attorney Andre D. White now asking all resolutions can be adopted effective
[2:02:58] immediately.
[2:02:59] It's ordinances that require a 30-day waiting period after a first and then a second reading.
[2:03:08] I'm sorry, you spoke a little too quick for me, I know the terminology is very important here.
[2:03:12] Would you repeat that?
[2:03:13] Certainly, resolutions typically become effective upon their adoption.
[2:03:19] Immediately, that's typical standard just as a motion to approve something was also effective immediately.
[2:03:24] It is when you have an ordinance, i.e. making a law, that you require a 30-day waiting period
[2:03:30] after you've had a first and second reading.
[2:03:35] Thank you.
[2:03:35] Please see that clarification.
[2:03:40] Mayor Pro Temmer-Marrows, do you have any questions?
[2:03:45] No, thank you.
[2:03:46] And Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[2:03:51] Not questions.
[2:03:54] Is there anyone on the line that would like to speak on this item number 19?
[2:04:01] There's no one on the line, Madam Mayor.
[2:04:06] Thank you.
[2:04:07] At this time, I request a motion and a second for item 19.
[2:04:11] I'm going
[2:04:16] to make that motion as recommended by staff.
[2:04:21] Have a motion by Council Member Gomez, seconded by Council Member Cox.
[2:04:25] All those in favor?
[2:04:26] Council Member Cox?
[2:04:29] Council Member Gomez?
[2:04:33] Aye.
[2:04:33] Council Member Jones?
[2:04:36] Aye.
[2:04:37] Mayor Prattemberer-Meras?
[2:04:43] Mayor Garcia?
[2:04:48] That motion passes unanimously.
[2:04:54] Item number 20 is the COVID-19 Emergency Rental Agreements for Diamond Environmental
[2:05:01] mental services. The recommendation is that the City Council ratify city managers
[2:05:06] and emergency approval of a rental agreement of equipment for the eight
[2:05:10] unsheltered homeless population sanitation sites for a total of $24,756.74.
[2:05:18] A rental agreement of 19 portable restrooms in hand washing stations for 17
[2:05:23] park sites for a total of 19,000, $25.46.
[2:05:28] Since a rental agreement of two solar elite flushable
[2:05:32] restrooms with interior hand washing stations for the drive
[2:05:35] through COVID-19 testing at the San Bernardino County
[2:05:38] Fairgrounds and Victorville for total of $920.96.
[2:05:43] And a rental agreement of equipment for the potential shelter
[2:05:47] quarantine sites for total of $11,710.
[2:05:51] Approve an additional 56-day agreement
[2:05:55] with Diamond Environmental Services for the amount of $112,826.32, approved resolution
[2:06:03] number 20-014, additional appropriation in the amount of $169,239.48 to the fiscal year
[2:06:14] 2019-2020 budget. This time I'll ask if council have questions of staff. Councilmember Cox,
[2:06:21] do you have any questions?
[2:06:26] Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? No, thank you Madam Clerk. Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions?
[2:06:36] Yes, aren't these fiscal decisions that are within the purview of the city manager?
[2:06:42] And so, it couldn't be used to have been lease meals.
[2:06:46] And what is the legality if they were to have been cybercated for that advantage or for that matter of lease meals?
[2:07:02] The question.
[2:07:05] Well, let me try to reframe it because I sent time to write it down.
[2:07:09] So perhaps I could just speak it out.
[2:07:11] So it's my understanding that within the guidelines,
[2:07:13] you have the power to adopt anything under $50,000
[2:07:16] which if you would have brought them,
[2:07:19] you wouldn't have asked to have brought any of these
[2:07:21] to council except the one that exceeds $50,000.
[2:07:24] So I wonder what the decision-making process behind
[2:07:27] and the legality of that process was
[2:07:29] to not speak that within the purview
[2:07:31] and not bring it to city council or what is going on.
[2:07:36] Madam Mayor and council, it's always mid.
[2:07:38] I think I can answer that question and we also have George Harris and John
[2:07:43] Mindola who would oversee the finance and purchasing process that could
[2:07:48] chime in but I believe because we are you're seeing three different contracts I
[2:07:55] think one's in the amount of 24,000 a smaller amount 19,000 I'm sorry it's not
[2:08:00] right in front of me but in other than in other than up at itself each one of
[2:08:05] those could be approved by the city manager. However, our purchasing guidelines indicate
[2:08:11] that when one vendor exceeds an expenditure of $50,000, which is above the city manager's
[2:08:17] authority, he has to bring it to council because otherwise that would be considered bid splitting
[2:08:25] and it's just another protection that we have in our purchasing code for transparency reasons
[2:08:30] is that we don't spend so much with one bender.
[2:08:32] So if you want to add anything to that,
[2:08:35] John or George, but lead us with answers the question,
[2:08:39] Councillor Aguilman's was asking.
[2:08:42] If I may, I guess I may stop you for a little bit.
[2:08:47] You spoke something that's out of the leads
[2:08:49] of my understanding.
[2:08:51] I understood something about purchasing code
[2:08:53] and transferring things, which really,
[2:08:55] I want to pay attention to what you just said,
[2:08:57] but if you don't mind repeating it a different way,
[2:09:00] I used to say something about you can't do something at a level within the
[2:09:04] population of an emergency or whatever, but can you clarify that for me?
[2:09:08] I didn't quite get it.
[2:10:39] It's already been made, which is
[2:10:48] 56 days.
[2:11:10] I mean, it's still progress
[2:11:15] is I'll get more clarification right now.
[2:11:17] It's just what we're doing.
[2:11:21] So I appreciate that.
[2:11:22] Thank you.
[2:11:25] Mayor Pro Temer-Marras, do you have any questions?
[2:11:31] I do.
[2:11:32] When we talk about a rental agreement, what is the general term in terms of time?
[2:11:39] How many months or is it eight months?
[2:11:43] Because I notice we have a rental agreement for the aid on sheltered homeless sanitation
[2:11:50] sites that we also have a rental.
[2:11:53] So in terms of time, how many months are we talking about each
[2:12:00] period?
[2:12:44] No, when we say that, does that mean that in 28 days, 30 days from now, you're going
[2:12:50] to be requesting the same amount of money,
[2:13:04] consignative, that's not some current.
[2:13:16] Plus, termination of that contract will be oriental.
[2:13:22] Then, is there a possibility, I'm asking,
[2:13:26] that we will continue with the same contract?
[2:13:32] Possibility should the need still exist,
[2:13:34] but at that time, it would be...
[2:14:10] Air Garcia, do you have any questions?
[2:14:11] No questions?
[2:14:14] No, no questions.
[2:14:16] I believe this is my main sense well of something we needed.
[2:14:21] No questions.
[2:14:22] Madam Mayor, this is key for our work.
[2:14:30] Council Member Jones, is that I heard someone, did someone else have questions?
[2:14:36] Council Member Gomez.
[2:14:37] Council Member Gomez.
[2:14:38] Oh.
[2:14:39] Sorry.
[2:14:39] If I may, I put another question for it out.
[2:14:43] So, a lot of you have heard and I'm sure aware of the sentence action.
[2:14:49] production or T.F. the Defense Protection Act and the reason I bring that up is because
[2:14:54] I wanted to speak just for the mere curiosity I'm not advocating for any coercion whatsoever.
[2:15:00] Is there a way that something similar within the powers of local municipalities can have something of that level to initiate voluntary cooperation to flatten the COVID curve through asking our vendors to cooperate with something of this level, or maybe a type of subsidy, something that we can use? And once again, I'm not asking for a course of powers with the government.
[2:15:30] and what I'm asking is if there's some type of cooperation to initiate something so related to COVID-19 to flatten that curve.
[2:15:41] Just as we are doing with EOC and receiving, hopefully not too long from now, FEMA funds and other funds in the state and the federal government
[2:15:49] as much as feasible from those.
[2:15:54] This is the city attorney. I don't think as a municipality we have the ability to do something like that.
[2:16:00] I think obviously you could ask vendors politely if they cooperate and give us some kind of discount, but certainly I would not advocate as a municipality doing anything like that.
[2:16:13] Right. Right. And thank you for that clarification, because I wasn't asking to advocate is mere curiosity because sometimes local government have a power that sits out upon them and could be considered abusive, but at times where we have a national or I'm sorry, a global pandemic, something that the public health crisis.
[2:16:30] I don't know if there's some of the leveraging tools that can be used in order to assist
[2:16:36] to spotly that COVID-19 curvature, thank you.
[2:16:42] Is there any public that would like to speak on item number 20?
[2:16:49] Yes, Valentino Rina.
[2:16:52] Go ahead, Valentino.
[2:16:53] You have three minutes.
[2:16:56] Okay.
[2:16:56] I'm looking at the backup material item C. We are going to be paying the county $920 for the use on
[2:17:12] the property.
[2:17:13] I don't know if I'm understanding,
[2:17:19] and they have
[2:17:23] accommodated quite large amounts of people there.
[2:17:31] dollars
[2:17:35] to facilitate
[2:17:43] the fee with
[2:17:48] a rental agreement for the shelter.
[2:17:56] What is the equipment that we're talking about that couldn't cost those $11,000?
[2:18:09] there any other comments?
[2:18:11] Is there anyone else on the line that would like to comment?
[2:18:17] No.
[2:18:18] Madam Mayor, there's no one else that would like to comment.
[2:18:21] Madam Mayor, if I might, just one point of clarification I'd like to get from the Deputy
[2:18:32] City Manager before the Council votes.
[2:18:36] And in the staff recommendation item number three identifies for references that the
[2:18:44] resolution contains an amount of 169,239.
[2:18:49] and that seems to be slightly different than the amount that's actually in the
[2:18:56] resolution. So I want to make sure that as we're approving this, we're approving the right amount.
[2:19:03] And if the resolution needs to be corrected, I think I would ask that the council consider
[2:19:09] amending the motion to do that. But I need some clarification from George, if I can.
[2:19:14] No. Page
[2:19:17] 416 is the resolution.
[2:19:19] I think it needs
[2:19:23] to be put in five, okay.
[2:20:06] appears to be...
[2:20:43] Madam Mayor, if you would like to get a request
[2:20:47] of motion in a second, sorry.
[2:20:54] That I'm on the list, 159.
[2:20:59] 39 and 48.
[2:21:03] Yeah, it's in the recommendation.
[2:21:06] Yeah, and number three, the item is in the recommendation.
[2:21:13] There we go.
[2:21:18] So I'm sorry, I didn't hear who made the motion.
[2:21:21] Okay.
[2:21:24] Okay. So then I would like to go ahead and move this motion as recommended at
[2:21:28] the staff recommends with the modifixation to show that the resolution is going to be 169
[2:21:35] dollars, 139, with 20 cents. Right?
[2:21:45] That was a recommendation reflect, but we're
[2:21:47] seeing as recommended by staff in the staff recording and it's collected within the actual
[2:22:01] I have
[2:22:05] a motion
[2:22:17] by Councilmember Gomez, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favor?
[2:22:22] Councilmember Cox,
[2:22:26] Councilmember Gomez,
[2:22:30] Councilmember Jones,
[2:22:35] Mayor Pro Temra-Meras,
[2:22:40] Mayor Garcia,
[2:22:45] motion carries unanimously.
[2:22:56] The next item is number 21, the training schedule and any actions at the discretion of
[2:23:03] the City Council.
[2:23:07] I guess I will ask Council if they have questions, Councilmember Cox, do you have any questions?
[2:23:35] If that's emotion, Mr. Customers, is it really in seconded?
[2:23:44] makes emotion when we get to that point, I guess.
[2:23:49] Councilmember Jones, do you have any?
[2:23:51] Yeah, we're not for you.
[2:23:53] Yeah.
[2:23:54] Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions?
[2:23:55] Yeah, I was going to ask the very same thing because it's likely, you know,
[2:24:02] if it goes the same way other things have gone recently, a lot of confidence is they're just canceled.
[2:24:08] And that may well happen.
[2:24:09] And the annual link conference, however, that falls into another fiscal year.
[2:24:18] And that might be out far enough that we can do that one, but I think it's easier to
[2:24:24] just table this item.
[2:24:27] You know, and so it's such time that we have more information.
[2:24:31] Okay.
[2:24:33] Councilmember Mugomas, do you have any further questions?
[2:24:37] No.
[2:24:38] Okay.
[2:24:38] Mayor Pro Temer. Mayor, do you have any questions?
[2:24:43] No.
[2:24:45] Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions?
[2:24:50] No, no questions.
[2:24:56] So the motion would be to,
[2:25:07] I think we can hold that discussion until we add more information
[2:25:10] about what dates may be available.
[2:25:12] Okay. And Council Member Gomez, you made a second?
[2:25:17] Yeah. Okay. So a motion by Council Member Cox, seconded by Council Member Gomez.
[2:25:23] All those in favor? Council Member Cox?
[2:25:28] Councilmember Gomez.
[2:25:31] Councilmember Jones.
[2:25:35] Mayor Potemra-Marras and
[2:25:40] Mayor Garcia.
[2:25:44] So this is to continue this meeting to a later date? Yes.
[2:25:49] Is this for that? Yes. When we have to have more information on the dates.
[2:25:59] That motion passes unanimously.
[2:26:04] And the next item is number 22, the City Council
[2:26:07] Policy and Procedures Manual. Any actions at the discretion of the City Council?
[2:26:12] and council member Gomez, you asked for this item.
[2:26:16] Would you like to present it?
[2:26:20] Okay, so I'm going here.
[2:26:22] So this has been known that our policy consistently tweaking
[2:26:26] depending on what happens within the realm of the friendship
[2:26:32] or lack of friendship or unity with our council.
[2:26:37] So the deposit has also been on multiple occasions.
[2:26:42] And with that stated with a approval of my colleague, we have noted that we need to have
[2:26:49] an ongoing conversation about all these policies and all these directives that at times
[2:26:54] seem to not only accomplish the tender the way we establish and do processes as a majority
[2:27:01] of the council.
[2:27:03] And so this was brought up today to be able to analyze at least one or two maybe more
[2:27:07] are possible, and if not continue the process,
[2:27:10] it's an ongoing way of looking at its document
[2:27:13] as a breathing document that is perhaps
[2:27:17] changed and altered depending on how the majority
[2:27:20] of the council feels.
[2:27:21] And so that's why this is a direction
[2:27:23] that's being brought today for a session
[2:27:25] and possible action of the majority of the council.
[2:27:33] This time I'll ask if there's questions of council members.
[2:27:38] Council member Cox, do you have any questions?
[2:27:41] I do.
[2:27:43] I've always looked at
[2:27:54] the time.
[2:27:55] I have no idea
[2:28:05] what the change
[2:28:16] is.
[2:28:25] You're right.
[2:28:26] And I should have probably, during the introduction,
[2:28:28] brought that I just, so I just needed to introduce it.
[2:28:31] And that's what I did.
[2:28:32] So I don't know if there's more questions.
[2:28:33] But I can definitely say why it seems got up.
[2:28:40] So I'm going to take that challenge over here.
[2:28:42] So we're closely approximating December.
[2:28:47] And it's been normal procedures to have mayors
[2:28:50] Mayors turn at two years, and so whatever reason, this last time we did have a conflict
[2:28:57] with who would be mayors depending on the vote.
[2:29:00] And so that's not only conflicting, but it creates a lot of havoc within our community.
[2:29:05] And so I wanted to look at the term limit, and not only exhaust, but eliminate any kind of term limit
[2:29:12] that hasn't been done in the past, so I don't know why it's being implemented now.
[2:29:16] And also look at the, um, instead of having the four or six votes, I think a majority
[2:29:22] should be able to seek for a community which it has for the last four years, and I don't
[2:29:26] know why there's a change.
[2:29:28] So for the, for the person who's running or is going to be nominated or elected or would
[2:29:33] have you from the other four council members, you'd have at least three people to have that
[2:29:40] majority extended.
[2:29:41] There's no requirements for 4.5 because it does lock down and it becomes an animosity
[2:29:48] as a game so with that said, in court, looking at revising the current limit for the
[2:30:00] Going from 4.5, as the majority, as it always has been. And so my motion to maturely, if it seems to mature, would be to eliminate the term limits or mayors, and to allow for the 4.5 reduction through the majority, which would be 3.2, if that would ever happen. And that's my motion. And I hope my colleagues would understand that this is just continuous, where we have continuously done in the past.
[2:30:29] I don't think we need to change anything of that level, but we do need to change what's
[2:30:34] happening from force this, the majority is something that I motion, and eliminating
[2:30:40] this term limit is also something really important, so that's my motion.
[2:30:48] Councillor, I still need to ask questions of council members.
[2:30:52] Council member Jones, do you have any questions?
[2:30:57] Well, I do. I don't know that I agree with that when the item was presented, how it was
[2:31:04] hurt to ride, but I know that's probably the intention for the good of the entire
[2:31:12] council this way. Typically, both the procedures manuals are,
[2:31:20] you know, it's kind of a fluid
[2:31:21] document that you address issues over time when you find that there's a need to revisit
[2:31:31] an item.
[2:31:32] You know, to revisit an issue, if there's been some kind of demonstrated evidence that
[2:31:39] it's the policy or the procedures in adequate or it's flawed or it's harmful in some manner.
[2:31:46] And also an opportunity to take up new subject matters for consideration or any other types
[2:31:53] but like minor grammar punctuation type things
[2:31:56] so that it's a comprehensive document
[2:32:00] and historically on this.
[2:32:07] So this message, this is for our attorney and the manager.
[2:32:11] Historically on this, we've always done kind of a global look
[2:32:16] see at it and not just pinpointed certain things
[2:32:19] to look at, although that's something we can do
[2:32:22] with the council wants to do that.
[2:32:24] If we're going to go that direction,
[2:32:26] then I certainly have a number of other things
[2:32:28] that I would like to take up,
[2:32:31] but I'm just almost thinking,
[2:32:36] we need to kind of fly,
[2:32:42] we're going to revisit certain things
[2:32:43] and what the parameters for that should be.
[2:32:48] The correctness I'm wrong,
[2:32:49] we've always done kind of a global look
[2:32:50] at the policy manual
[2:32:52] because it's kind of a nascent document.
[2:32:54] Is that correct, Mr. Metzler?
[2:32:56] The
[2:33:02] recollection,
[2:33:04] but quite honestly, I think
[2:33:05] what the council's prog, whatever the council's progative is, is the way it can be looked upon.
[2:33:12] Let me chime in.
[2:33:13] Right.
[2:33:14] Let me chime in if I might see a journey again.
[2:33:19] You know, to the extent that you want to discuss specific changes to the policy manual, such as the one suggested by councilmember Gomez,
[2:33:27] I would recommend that you agendaize that for an upcoming meeting, maybe the next meeting with specific recommendations as to what to change.
[2:33:35] because right now for the benefit of the public this was just noticed as a general discussion
[2:33:41] about whether or not we want to even change the policy manual and I don't think it's fair
[2:33:45] to the public to have a discussion about specific items you're going to change without them
[2:33:49] having the opportunity to participate in that discussion. So I don't have a problem with
[2:33:54] what council member Gomez is suggesting. I just think that suggestion should be a motion to
[2:33:58] have a discussion of that or that end or other items of interest to the council members at the next
[2:34:04] meeting.
[2:34:12] So perhaps this is a time to figure out if there's other items that people want to have
[2:34:15] addressed in connection with the policy manual, which we could then agenda. Yes, I do. I do.
[2:34:24] May I go ahead? Yes. So if we're going to be, if we're going to be specific on it, then first of all,
[2:34:33] in our recent governance workshop, and this was one of the main things that came to my mind,
[2:34:38] And the council agreed that we would amend our policy manual to include the norms that
[2:34:45] we set out during the governance workshop.
[2:34:48] So that's, I think, is given.
[2:34:52] Also the public comment period, I think we need to consider whether speakers should be able
[2:34:58] to share any remaining time with another speaker.
[2:35:02] I think we've had one occasion recently for someone made a request before the meeting.
[2:35:07] I think that's worthy of discussion.
[2:35:11] I think that we need to explicitly define the appointment process for the annual reorganization
[2:35:17] so that we don't have the NL again, that we've experienced over the past couple of years.
[2:35:24] We may want to define the process for the council to prove that nominees and the council
[2:35:29] appointment process.
[2:35:30] So because I think our nominees are largely volunteers and they should know what to expect
[2:35:35] during that process and know that they'll be treated with risk.
[2:35:42] And then there's just, there's like a couple,
[2:35:44] probably some type of graphical things and, you know,
[2:35:47] we need to make provision maybe for the correct.
[2:35:54] And then a
[2:36:04] primary, that
[2:36:12] there can notify the alternate,
[2:36:14] but it doesn't really clarify the
[2:36:28] things that I would certainly
[2:36:31] see discussed.
[2:36:35] Councilmember Cox, do you want to add anything?
[2:36:46] The council has
[2:37:16] passed around.
[2:37:20] you look at Apple Valley, it's a one-year term.
[2:37:24] It's a textual thing.
[2:37:28] You don't get additional money,
[2:37:32] so then just they've served
[2:37:33] more of your kind of duties to work together as a team.
[2:37:38] We can't be secretly meeting and having fights about
[2:37:41] I want to be the mayor because it's important to me.
[2:37:44] I don't give a damn how important it is to an individual.
[2:37:47] What's important is the city and the council working as a team.
[2:37:52] If you take a look at this, we had a split in the council.
[2:37:56] I wanted to be the mayor and of course no one should be elected mayor because they wanted.
[2:38:03] It should be because the whole council wants it, because they are people that can show
[2:38:09] leadership,
[2:38:13] have them work together.
[2:38:14] And we have a divided council to a large extent, but to
[2:38:23] make a deal and have a mayor for life,
[2:38:25] I mean why would you throw it out?
[2:38:27] If you want to go back to the two-year term, you're spirit up of all you do one year, so to
[2:38:31] most cities, it works not just fine.
[2:38:34] So I'd like to have a discussion before we make any changes because I haven't heard any community agreement on this thing.
[2:38:42] In fact, what I heard was a lot of unhappy people the way this happened.
[2:38:46] You know, selecting the mayor, Yahoo, next day the mayor selected.
[2:38:50] In this case, we get a big right up in the press because it wasn't done right and I think all the council members know it.
[2:38:56] So, you know, if it's that important to one or two individuals,
[2:39:00] then go ahead and advise the council and become mayor.
[2:39:03] Maybe certainly the petition that it's elected
[2:39:05] and you can be mayor for life.
[2:39:07] But, for Padsec, show some leadership.
[2:39:09] Pass this around.
[2:39:10] Let everybody have a chance.
[2:39:11] We all equally represent the same responsibilities.
[2:39:18] And it's not that important.
[2:39:20] The only thing is important is showing leadership.
[2:39:23] I was hoping that we wouldn't do any changes
[2:39:25] until we get we hired a consultant. I don't know what that's from
[2:39:30] talking that's going to do. I don't know when the next meeting is, but I'll bet
[2:39:33] you that they touch on this subject. Why don't you get my chance? We're paying
[2:39:37] them good money. Let's do what they have to say. There's no changes that need to be
[2:39:41] made right now that are earth shattering. In fact, there are no changes that need to be
[2:39:45] made until December. After the next election.
[2:39:53] Mayor Pro Temmer,
[2:39:55] Maris would you do when I add anything to that?
[2:39:59] Well, of course I do.
[2:40:02] Number one, I understand Mr. Cox's opinion.
[2:40:06] But that is all it is. It is an opinion.
[2:40:09] It is not a fact.
[2:40:10] It is the will of the people that determine who gets elected
[2:40:14] and is the will of the council to determine who will be mayor
[2:40:18] and may approach him.
[2:40:20] We live in empty democracy.
[2:40:22] That means that everybody has the right to vote.
[2:40:25] but no one has the right to limit or restrict anyone.
[2:40:29] If you have leadership, it's not limited to one year,
[2:40:33] it's limited by your ability to achieve.
[2:40:36] I might have two friends, three male friends,
[2:40:39] one in Fontana and one in Realtor who have been mayor for over 20 years.
[2:40:45] And they keep getting reelected because they do a good job.
[2:40:49] I do not understand why one year would make you a good mayor
[2:40:54] when it takes more than one year to be able to achieve anything at the city comes the level.
[2:41:01] Therefore, I find it a question of choice, not a question of restriction.
[2:41:07] Therefore, I do not agree with what I have heard.
[2:41:12] Changes have to be made because life changes. This is why things have changed today
[2:41:18] because of the virus. We do not wait until December to find out whether we're
[2:41:24] going to be alive or dead. We are going to do things that will create change
[2:41:30] for the betterment of our society. Therefore, if you look at your policy, much of
[2:41:36] which was written by others, not by even those who are sitting at the City Council.
[2:41:41] Council. The City Council members are responsible and obligated to look at policies, not the
[2:41:50] city manager and not the city attorney. Therefore, when I hear anyone other than the five
[2:41:57] members on the City Council expressed it, which is correct, because you have the right
[2:42:03] to express your mind, but you do not have the right to review because that is given to
[2:42:11] the city council members who were elected by the public. Therefore I find it very difficult
[2:42:18] to accept this idea that you will wait until December to make your changes. Life does
[2:42:26] not stop and you must grow with it. Therefore if the city of Victorville is going to grow and
[2:42:34] be the light on the hill. We have to look at what changes must be made now, not later,
[2:42:41] and we must work together. I agree with that. But let me say the benefit should be for
[2:42:48] the people, not for the benefit of any person, to the city council. Therefore, I find fault
[2:42:55] for some of the agreements and disagreements and arguments that I've heard.
[2:43:02] This is truly
[2:43:03] But
[2:43:06] you know what, when you have a condition of this nature, you need to stand up and
[2:43:12] face it as it is and deal with it fully and fairly, because nothing will be done like
[2:43:20] hiding it, or let us say we
[2:43:26] with much effort, but I've heard.
[2:43:29] Thank you.
[2:43:30] Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions or want anything you want to add to the list?
[2:43:36] No, I don't have any questions.
[2:43:41] I just feel that we do need to review possibly, you know,
[2:43:48] just I don't know if it's up to Blanca, it's for calling.
[2:43:51] But I do feel that we do need to identify for discussion
[2:43:57] and possibly some action here,
[2:44:02] so to decide.
[2:44:04] OK, let me check to see if there's anyone on the line.
[2:44:08] Let me see if there's anyone on the line who would like to speak during public comment.
[2:44:13] Is there anyone there that would like to speak on item number 21?
[2:44:18] Yes.
[2:44:19] Valentina.
[2:44:19] All right.
[2:44:20] Valentina, you have three minutes.
[2:44:24] Okay.
[2:44:25] I've been a resident of this reveal for over 30 years.
[2:44:29] And I do not recall ever having a change to the current policies.
[2:44:36] If we're going to be up to date,
[2:44:44] so people want, we need to understand the times change
[2:44:48] and our policies to change with the
[2:44:52] people, the residents of Israel have a right, in my
[2:44:57] opinion, to weigh in.
[2:45:00] The next mayor is, and we don't have that option as it is stand right now. So how can somebody
[2:45:11] be elected mayor when the resident, when the voting public doesn't have a, doesn't have a
[2:45:18] say?
[2:45:21] That's my comment. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to provide
[2:45:25] I'd comment,
[2:45:29] there's no one else.
[2:45:31] Would you like me to review the list that I've have so far?
[2:45:37] Yes, please.
[2:45:39] Okay, I have, from Council Member Gomez,
[2:45:41] I have the, to discuss the mayor's term,
[2:45:48] and then I have, from Council Member Jones,
[2:45:53] I have the norms that was discussed with our other workshop,
[2:45:59] up, the public speaker to give their time to someone else, reorganization, design process,
[2:46:07] some grammar, punctuation, primary to notify alternate the reason for, and further clarification.
[2:46:17] And then I do have, I wrote this for Jim, but I don't know if this would just fall under
[2:46:23] the discussion with the mayor is the winner of the election is a mayor for one year terms.
[2:46:32] I think I could group that one with just the discussion with the mayor's term.
[2:46:39] The only other one, the only other one that, sorry,
[2:46:56] okay, got, okay,
[2:47:00] the only other thing,
[2:47:01] I think Councillor Bacock suggested was also to get input from the consultants on it.
[2:47:06] I don't know if you want to wait for that or not.
[2:47:14] But this city council has a pinion from the public, has its own opinions, has a team,
[2:47:23] sometimes broken, sometimes cold, depending on how the power structure weighs in as a
[2:47:28] pendulum.
[2:47:29] So with our suggested recommendations on the city attorney, I would like to say that this
[2:47:35] item has been notified legally, and my motion is rightly done so today, with no violation
[2:47:42] the last attorney can modify the policy immediately upon approval of the majority tonight
[2:47:49] to one, eliminate the mayor's term limit, two, the work that's to a majority vote, and
[2:47:55] three, along with reintroducing the recording of the post session, and I would like to see
[2:48:00] if any of my colleagues would give a second so we can be a real part of the vote tonight.
[2:48:05] As your city attorney, I must advise you that I do believe that would be relative of the
[2:48:09] the Brown Act since there has been no information provided on the agenda as to the items that
[2:48:14] you want to specifically discuss.
[2:48:17] I would rightfully say, as I always have in a one to always push the boundary, you know,
[2:48:24] my motion still stands to fight the fact that you recommend what you are recommending
[2:48:29] Mr. Dubon-Optice.
[2:48:31] On many occasions I assumed you pushed the lever and a lot of violations have occurred that
[2:48:37] no one has done anything about something.
[2:48:39] So I don't see any violation, any type of imprisonment of any sort.
[2:48:44] I think it's to notify the community knows exactly that the policy would be discussed.
[2:48:51] The policy is a vast document that was prepared by you and the city manager with some input
[2:48:57] from some of the council and some not.
[2:49:00] And so it's rightfully doing done here so today.
[2:49:04] So all we need is three votes and you are overwritten.
[2:49:07] and that's my motion. I'm not going to back it up and I always push the
[2:49:12] level if my colleagues would like to join me and see what we can make happen
[2:49:16] tonight. I'm not watering or backing up. That is my motion and you see I
[2:49:22] modified my motion to include reinstituting the recording of the closed
[2:49:27] session. So far I don't have a second on the modified version. We haven't
[2:49:32] voted on it. We haven't voted on the primary motion either but
[2:49:37] we do have a second on that one.
[2:49:43] I don't have a second on any one. Yeah you have a second on the
[2:49:48] first one. That was out of order. I seconded. But that was out of order. We were still taking questions.
[2:49:57] There is no out of order. The council has authority to do anything. Right. Right but I didn't have a
[2:50:03] second. You want to give me a second now on the first one or if you want to just take the modification
[2:50:09] I want to go ahead and do the modification, if there's no second, we will retrieve and go back to the original motion.
[2:50:16] It's kind of second by Ramirez, and she can verify that for you.
[2:50:20] So, however, you want to take it.
[2:50:21] Great. I'll take the motion made by Councilmember Gomez, the modified motion to eliminate the term limits required or the four fifths vote and closed session recordings.
[2:50:33] Is there a second on that modified motion?
[2:50:39] I second it.
[2:50:40] I second it.
[2:50:41] Okay.
[2:50:42] I have a motion made by Councilmember Gomez.
[2:50:46] Seconded by Mayor Pro Temer-Maris.
[2:50:49] All those in favor?
[2:50:53] Councilmember Cox?
[2:50:55] No.
[2:50:57] Councilmember Jones?
[2:51:00] I will not vote because I'm not going to participate in a Brown Act violation.
[2:51:06] Councilmember Gomez?
[2:51:10] Yes, because there is no Brown Act violation.
[2:51:13] Mayor Pro Temmer-Meras?
[2:51:17] Yes.
[2:51:20] Mayor Garcia?
[2:51:24] need your assistance.
[2:51:25] I'm very interested in the violation of the Brown Act.
[2:51:28] I believe it as an violation of the Brown Act and the reason I believe that is because on
[2:51:32] the Brown Act you were supposed to give the public the opportunity to understand what it is
[2:51:36] you're discussing, and you are now having a pretty specific discussion about provisions
[2:51:40] in the Brown, sorry, in the policy manual that you want to change. I have no problem with
[2:51:45] the Council doing this at a subsequent meeting and putting this on the agenda and having
[2:51:48] these items at a subsequent meeting where the public can understand what it is we're discussing.
[2:51:53] But I think to do it tonight is lack of transparency to the public and would be deemed to be a brown
[2:51:58] violation.
[2:52:00] That's my legal opinion.
[2:52:06] So Mayor Garcia,
[2:52:14] anything that's going to be the
[2:52:17] violation of the permit, the
[2:52:22] foundation would be for us to advance it to the next meeting,
[2:52:26] and then we can actually do it without a violation of the permit.
[2:52:34] Gloria, why don't we have the attorney, the emotion, the legal opinion about what we're
[2:52:41] doing, that way it's archived and it's part of the record because there is no history
[2:52:46] in the United States that anything through a ground act has been instituted as such
[2:52:52] and there has been a violation of that and there is documented tortuous of that.
[2:52:57] I think the attorney's weigh-in authority over you has done something and I think that's
[2:53:02] very unfair because those are mechanisms that the power structure uses to keep its power
[2:53:06] in place.
[2:53:08] And so I would ask that the senior attorneys actually give a legal opinion of what
[2:53:13] happened today in terms of the motion and how we would have, how we voted, made this and
[2:53:18] bring up the, sorry, decisive cases.
[2:53:21] That way, Gloria Garcia feels comfortable because I really think that he's out about what he
[2:53:26] is saying and is using that as a balance of the use of power because it has been notified
[2:53:31] tonight.
[2:53:34] We're talking about the
[2:53:35] policy. We can just knit, take the
[2:53:39] editing. There is no reason why there
[2:53:41] is a violation. But if that's how
[2:53:43] you desire, go ahead and make that
[2:53:44] motion.
[2:53:49] So we have a motion on
[2:53:50] a second already. Mayor, were you
[2:53:52] making? Mayor, were you making a
[2:53:54] substitute motion to have the same
[2:53:56] discussion at a subsequent meeting?
[2:53:58] That's what I thought I heard you
[2:53:58] say.
[2:54:02] No, that's not what I
[2:54:08] Okay.
[2:54:18] Okay. That motion passes with Councilmember Cox and Councilmember Jones voting
[2:54:23] no.
[2:54:26] I'm sorry. Councilmember Jones. I'm sorry. That's what I'm sorry. You did not vote.
[2:54:33] I'm sorry about that.
[2:54:37] I have a question.
[2:54:39] Member Jones.
[2:54:39] Turning us a vote.
[2:54:41] Sorry.
[2:54:42] What?
[2:54:43] That's a zone that's saying.
[2:54:48] She abstained.
[2:54:49] Yes, she's abstained.
[2:54:52] The motion passes.
[2:54:56] I'm just for the clarity record of a governmental issue.
[2:55:00] If she did not abstain, she didn't use the word.
[2:55:02] It's resumed.
[2:55:03] So are you?
[2:55:04] Are we interpreting her no vote as an ascension?
[2:55:06] just for clarification. She didn't vote no. I'm going to, however I want to do it, it's just
[2:55:12] I'm more of a principle. I'm not going to be drawn into a violation of the law. So it's I can get
[2:55:20] clarification.
[2:55:37] Yes, can we get clarification for Jones both? Because I know we have to prove that next
[2:55:41] time that we come in. We are waiting, we are waiting on civic clarification.
[2:55:49] From Ms. Jones?
[2:55:53] Yes.
[2:55:57] So you're not voting at all on the item, correct?
[2:56:02] I'm not voting yes or no because I'm
[2:56:05] saying that's essentially an extension.
[2:56:09] Okay.
[2:56:10] Okay.
[2:56:11] Thank you for that purpose.
[2:56:12] I appreciate it.
[2:56:14] And this is a piece of proposal rule then as a point
[2:56:18] if I could ask our attorneys.
[2:56:22] So when we both taken on this, I understand that.
[2:56:26] But as to all of the other issues that I raise, you know, I
[2:56:36] think I don't even want to raise
[2:56:38] some of this point except for the amending and putting the norm then because I think we
[2:56:42] all know how this is going to go, so I just don't really want to, I just don't think it's
[2:56:46] helpful.
[2:56:47] If you want to qualify by saying that it was never important for, I don't know if the individual
[2:56:55] words that wanted to be mayor but you know there's been some mischaracterizations over time and certainly I was not one of them
[2:57:04] I would never wish to and have repeatedly said I would never wish to serve in any capacity other than what would be the will of the
[2:57:11] majority so to put me in that town it just isn't it isn't factual so thank you that
[2:57:44] motion there is no term for the mayor so
[2:58:08] we're moving on to
[2:58:09] item 23 public comment. Is there anyone on the line that wishes to speak?
[2:58:16] Yes, Valentino Diener. Go ahead, Godina, you have three minutes.
[2:58:23] Thank the City Council for opening the door to modifying the city
[2:58:32] policies and procedures.
[2:58:34] It is policy
[2:58:41] and procedures manual to be updated just today's needs.
[2:58:47] I don't think that we're going to have an issue with who's going to be mayor as a council
[2:58:54] member.
[2:58:57] She's not interested in being mayor, and I don't think
[2:59:07] wanting to be mayor, just because
[2:59:12] I think they want to be mayor because they have something to bring to the table.
[2:59:17] I think this needs to be further expanded and allowing the residents of Victorville having
[2:59:24] the voice. My next comment is I am happy to see that item 14 passed
[2:59:37] easement part
[2:59:42] zero five. I would like the city council to take that same process with the access to
[2:59:53] of the City Library.
[3:00:00] City to the city library from 7th Street, Victor from 7th Circle Drive to the library so that we can have a smooth and safe access to that library. This is a perfect situation why our seniors need access to the library. We've not a lot of them do not have access to the Internet. That's the only place we can get information.
[3:00:29] and that needs to be expanded and make easily accessible to all residents for the benefit of all VISTAs of your residents.
[3:00:41] So we would like to ask, will we need consultees to have the, if we need a light pause in downtown.
[3:00:51] We need a consultant to come and tell us, yes, it's starting. We have to pay $50,000.
[3:00:56] Yep, 30 seconds.
[3:00:57] is it not obvious that it starts that we have to see somebody to come and tell us this
[3:01:09] one and
[3:01:09] the way we need to consult this can tell us what we need to do when we have already made it
[3:01:15] clear what we need. Thank you. Is there is there anyone else that would like to speak during public
[3:01:22] comment?
[3:01:29] Go ahead Paul you have three minutes.
[3:01:38] The mayor will turn limits. You know I as a
[3:01:42] constituent in the city. I look upon the city council as you know for guidance
[3:01:49] leadership place
[3:01:56] when the mayor
[3:02:06] guidance of the city attorney I
[3:02:16] mean the mayor
[3:02:17] is the mayor she's not going to change
[3:02:21] okay whether or not you must to make it
[3:02:26] indefinite tonight or if you change the term limit decided to change it at the
[3:02:32] next council meeting and we're
[3:03:09] not even a why
[3:03:19] are we doing it this way
[3:03:42] I can
[3:03:42] Thank
[3:03:49] you. Is there anyone else that would like to speak during public comment?
[3:03:59] The speakers and now it's the reports from the city manager.
[3:04:04] Madam Mayor and members of the council, I have nothing to report at this time.
[3:04:13] Now item 25, discussion and possible action regarding upcoming agenda items.
[3:04:19] Council Member Cox, I believe left.
[3:04:23] Council Member Jones, do you have anything?
[3:04:26] I do thank you, Madam.
[3:04:30] First, I'd like to move that we play on the possible agenda and item for discussion
[3:04:38] and possible action, whereas we revised, instead of revising the policy and procedures
[3:04:45] manual as it pertains to amending it so that we include the norms that the Council decided
[3:04:52] upon in our governance work shop held in March of 2019.
[3:04:55] Is there a second there
[3:05:04] be no second the motion dies?
[3:05:09] Do you have any other further items?
[3:05:16] That's probably thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Gomez do you have any items to add?
[3:05:24] Yeah there's a couple of things that have been looking that are happening around the world
[3:05:29] and I think it's something that we can bring into the the world of Victorville. One being we understand
[3:05:35] there's a high employment rate no sooner as we're going to start continuing this
[3:05:42] fight and so I've been hearing a lot about eviction more accordion and I'm not
[3:05:46] sure if it's within the league of this council to be able to look at how other
[3:05:50] cities are looking at eviction more accordions and then a payback situation within
[3:05:55] six months so that all our businesses or residents that could be potentially
[3:06:00] out the COVID-19 affected areas would not suffer an eviction and we already know the
[3:06:06] utilities shut off without the referring but to implement something on stock so that
[3:06:12] it allows for a community to feel safe during these uncertain times during the public
[3:06:17] crisis and so that's what I would like to make as a motion tonight to prepare and look
[3:06:24] at how we can bring in eviction more terms to the city of Victorville is plausible for the
[3:06:28] next to the prime floor of the majority?
[3:06:30] Madam Mayor and members of the council,
[3:06:32] if I might, and I apologize for the interruption,
[3:06:35] there actually already is one in place
[3:06:38] that was issued by the governor of the state of California
[3:06:42] on March 27th and it did apply statewide
[3:06:48] and it does affect us here in Victorville.
[3:06:52] So effectively, there already is one in place.
[3:06:55] So I thought I'd just share that with you
[3:06:56] before you consider the item.
[3:07:00] Okay is does that mean that that process needs to be
[3:07:03] memorialized in the city of Victoros to affect directly our residents or how would they go about
[3:07:08] this state law? It's a clear separate entity as the local government. It's state law right now so
[3:07:15] we could not override or change state law. The reason I ask is because we're not a general city
[3:07:23] word charter city which if it's the municipal affairs of the city we don't have to abide by state
[3:07:28] but I don't know if that's conflictual in that term.
[3:07:30] We still have to conform to state law.
[3:07:32] So in this particular case,
[3:07:34] the executive order would apply locally.
[3:07:38] I think I have to see that.
[3:07:40] The next item would be,
[3:07:43] we have been talking a lot about
[3:07:46] one of our disadvantaged populations being our seniors.
[3:07:49] And I think it's time to begin to see
[3:07:54] how we can implement a master plan
[3:07:56] for our vulnerable population
[3:07:59] to be able to test the scope, so to speak,
[3:08:02] of how they're doing in our communities
[3:08:04] and a master plan to directly survey
[3:08:07] and create something that we're coming
[3:08:10] about helping our seniors.
[3:08:12] So that's something I would see merited
[3:08:14] to be a discussion in possible action for the next
[3:08:18] or future meeting no longer than 90 days.
[3:08:27] Is there a second?
[3:08:31] have a eye check on this regarding seniors.
[3:08:36] Yes.
[3:08:39] Madam Clerk, I have a parliamentary inquiry for our attorney on this.
[3:08:48] I believe that this was, this agenda item request was made in the past and there wasn't a second on it.
[3:08:55] So I need to know whether this can be, is the council didn't even wish to have any discussion much less.
[3:09:01] Let's take a vote on it.
[3:09:02] So I just don't know if
[3:09:06] this falls.
[3:09:09] would have to check if it has previously been agendized or discussed or she asked for
[3:09:16] before.
[3:09:17] It wasn't agendized, it was requested for an agenda item and to my recollection it didn't
[3:09:25] get a second which clearly means that it dies, it fails but I didn't think the council didn't
[3:09:34] even want to have a discussion about it.
[3:09:35] They didn't vote,
[3:09:39] seconded it for a vote, so I just don't know where
[3:09:44] we go on that.
[3:09:46] I'm just checking.
[3:09:47] Okay, I would like to remind
[3:09:52] that the majority of accounts will supersede the policies.
[3:09:59] And so if I have made a motion and I have at least one person who seconds it, and minimal
[3:10:05] a third person that says we would like to hear this in the agenda, I think that I know
[3:10:12] assertively that that overrides the policy because we are the policy makers, and I would
[3:10:18] like for my for Rita Ramirez to know that for a second, it still holds validity.
[3:10:24] And so after this session, I don't think we should have this session, now that's not the
[3:10:28] time to do this.
[3:10:29] I was just asking for an agenda item, and I appreciate the parliamentary discussion, but I think it's
[3:10:34] a way to work on adding something to the agenda as our structure of a majority speaks louder
[3:10:41] because we are the policy makers.
[3:10:43] But begging to differ, we govern through law, policy and procedure.
[3:10:48] We don't suffocate law, policy and procedure, just not when.
[3:10:56] The council policy was previously adopted by a majority of the council members.
[3:11:01] In fact, I believe it was on the unanimous vote to adopt the policy manual.
[3:11:05] The policy manual has a provision dealing with failed motions and indicates that they
[3:11:09] We should not be brought up at a subsequent meeting unless the council suspends the rules
[3:11:13] as provided in section below and that requirement to suspend the rules requires a fourth-fifth
[3:11:17] vote.
[3:11:22] Of the entire membership.
[3:11:23] Correct.
[3:11:26] Okay.
[3:11:27] So if you notice what we just did, as three people, we suspended the fourth-fifth, should
[3:11:33] we be doing that again and again?
[3:11:34] I think this is not the way we should be doing stuff, but it creates a way of not having
[3:11:40] for our community like our most vulnerable seniors, which I think they married a master planner,
[3:11:47] at least such a session in hopeful implementation and implementation.
[3:11:51] Why are we having this assessment?
[3:11:52] Should I just make a recommendation for to suspend the order of the four six votes,
[3:11:57] once I have a second and then have a second for that one, and then have a vote,
[3:12:01] and then go back to adding some supervision, is that how we're going to start doing things?
[3:12:05] Because if that's the case, Rita,
[3:12:07] I'm making a motion to pretend the force is to be able to add this to an agenda as we have that first vote.
[3:12:16] You need a fourth-fifth vote to make that effective.
[3:12:21] Otherwise, you're in.
[3:12:22] You need that.
[3:12:28] Yes, yes.
[3:12:29] Per the rules that the council has adopted and that you have all agreed to follow, that requires a fourth-fifth vote.
[3:12:36] Okay, so in other words, you're telling me that as a majority, we cannot suspend that. Is that what you're saying?
[3:12:41] That's what you have already agreed to, yes.
[3:12:44] Is that what you're saying?
[3:12:46] That's what I'm saying, yes.
[3:12:47] That's what you, as a council, have adopted
[3:12:49] as your policy and procedures.
[3:12:54] Okay, so I'm nice.
[3:12:57] I can still go ahead and make that motion.
[3:12:59] I have a second, and I'm going to pause for the vote.
[3:13:01] And?
[3:13:01] I mean, I need to know if there's at least a first person.
[3:13:04] And for the benefit of the council,
[3:13:06] the policy manual is consistent with both the Brown Act
[3:13:08] and the Rosenberg's rules of order.
[3:13:13] Okay, so then you're asking me to ask for, no, no, you didn't say suspension is for fits, right?
[3:13:19] Correct.
[3:13:22] So then you're saying that for fits has been a supersede the majority of adding something to the agenda?
[3:13:28] I'm saying that's what you have agreed to, that's what Rosenberg provides, rules of parliamentary procedure provide that.
[3:13:35] I know, but I don't want to argue with you, that's your interpretation.
[3:13:39] No, it's not my interpretation, that is the language you have all agreed to in the policy manual.
[3:13:43] and that is the, that is what Rosenberg provides.
[3:13:49] Can you read the language that the majority of the council agreed to?
[3:13:56] You signed, you all signed something in green to the policy manual.
[3:14:03] The acknowledgement and receipt of the understanding that upon first entering office upon election
[3:14:08] to any subsequent turn or ever city council policy and procedures manual
[3:14:12] is updated by city council resolution which you have done.
[3:14:14] Every council member shall sign a statement affirming that he or she has received red understood the provision set forth in this
[3:14:20] Manual and furthermore agrees to abide by them
[3:14:27] Okay, and you're your three minutes are up
[3:14:32] Okay, so I still I still talk for that and I had a second so we need a third
[3:14:43] What did you lost me?
[3:14:46] I wanted
[3:14:49] Discuss and do a possible action to create a master plan to survey our senior school
[3:14:53] So,
[3:14:57] thank you.
[3:15:03] And council member Cox is absent. Council member Jones, that
[3:15:12] motion fails.
[3:15:21] Okay.
[3:15:24] Mayor Pro Temer-Maris, do you have, do you have any agenda items you'd like to add?
[3:15:35] Mayor Garcia, do you have any items that you'd like to add?
[3:15:41] No. Thank you.
[3:15:45] Now it's the time for reports from council members. Council member Jones,
[3:15:52] do you have any?
[3:15:53] Yes, well, just very briefly, I'm not going to repeat all of the kudos that we gave for
[3:16:00] staff and how proud we are of how they've handled so admirably this crisis in our country
[3:16:11] and in our world, but it's a local level that they've just done an amazing job.
[3:16:17] I really do want to just let everyone know that I've continued to do my work as best I could,
[3:16:29] given the current crisis and our world has certainly changed in the way that we handle
[3:16:33] meetings.
[3:16:34] I've continued to participate in outside agency meetings, and I've represented the city in
[3:16:40] the Premier's absence in accordance with policy, and it would be expected by my colleagues.
[3:16:46] Thank you.
[3:16:46] Oh, and one more thing, we had to speak earlier that I would never be interested in being
[3:16:54] the mayor.
[3:16:55] Excuse me, I just ran up the stairs.
[3:17:00] And to be very clear, my remarks were that at the last session I was not interested in being
[3:17:06] mayor, because I would never want to serve in a way that my colleagues didn't want.
[3:17:11] That doesn't mean that if I were asked to do it in the future, that I wouldn't be willing.
[3:17:14] Thank you. Sorry, I ran up the stairs, I'm not a breath.
[3:17:20] Councilmember Gomez.
[3:17:24] Yes, particularly the comments are going to be very
[3:17:27] appointment and very assertive and say always you are. I want my colleagues to
[3:17:31] understand that within the power of the majority in any local government, anything
[3:17:36] right, we are the policymakers and we make those policies and I don't think we
[3:17:40] We need to allow people who are unelected to be able to do things to support methods and
[3:17:49] strategies that really circumvent what the majority is.
[3:17:55] And I think today has been witnessed.
[3:17:56] I know today it has been witnessed and witnessed and used to the force of an authority figure.
[3:18:02] Like I say, a lot of the authority where the title comes, the initiation.
[3:18:06] And so any document doesn't matter what is being said with the power of three can be changed.
[3:18:17] And I think this is the time where we need to really push, really understand, really know that we're going to be tested.
[3:18:25] All the interpretation is based on an interpretation of one, two, three people in interpretation slides.
[3:18:30] That's why we have different power tiers
[3:18:33] in terms of legislation, executive,
[3:18:36] and the important areas.
[3:18:38] And I think as the majority,
[3:18:39] you need to start acknowledging and taking
[3:18:41] an understanding of what is really happening right now
[3:18:44] to work, what is the movement that is
[3:18:47] since it's long overdue.
[3:18:49] And I don't think, and I know we should not
[3:18:52] be individuals who are afraid to stand up
[3:18:57] for what we believe in, particularly in times
[3:19:00] like COVID-19, particularly in times where we are really pushed to do things that we would
[3:19:05] never think we do when we create a narrative of it's bad or it's not bad. Remember, everything
[3:19:11] we do has every other plan from good and bad no matter what it is that you smile at someone.
[3:19:17] Someone's going to think you're making fun of them. Someone else is going to think you're calling
[3:19:20] them a hypocrite. Someone else is going to think you're calling them a sweetheart. So interpretations
[3:19:24] are very personal and very perceptible.
[3:19:28] And so I encourage my council members
[3:19:29] to keep making the best decisions
[3:19:31] and understanding that our authorities
[3:19:33] overrides any other authority
[3:19:35] that's unelected for the city of the jungle.
[3:19:38] That's why we were elected
[3:19:39] because we're strongholders of making these decisions
[3:19:44] that a lot of unelected people cannot
[3:19:46] and would not make user power force
[3:19:49] to manipulate different sources
[3:19:50] of what we can and cannot face.
[3:19:52] So I encourage you to keep standing up, keep doing what you know is right, you have that intuition and that vision, follow it.
[3:20:00] Thank you.
[3:20:06] Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris.
[3:20:11] Thank you.
[3:20:12] So I would like to say thank God that we're working together and helping.
[3:20:23] I do want to thank the medical field, all those who are working hard to save lives.
[3:20:28] One life is worth more than any money you could ever pay.
[3:20:33] Let me say, being that I haven't been home in 90 days, I have been in the hospital since January
[3:20:40] the 6th and I do plan to return. However, when the next time you see me, I will be disabled
[3:20:48] but I will still be a city person, how to be a member of the city council of Victor Bill.
[3:20:55] And I thank Kaiser and everyone else who has kept me alive, ready to work as
[3:21:07] grateful to my country.
[3:21:09] I am grateful to the city of this building.
[3:21:11] I am grateful for all of everyone who helps us.
[3:21:22] Mayor Garcia.
[3:21:27] I just want to say thank you to our city staff, our city manager and everyone.
[3:21:52] I just want to say I'm happy to do so, and I sure hope that this will get better, and
[3:22:03] we have a better life I'm doing.
[3:22:05] Thank you, and I believe that's what we have before our consult, before this meeting,
[3:22:10] Therefore, I extend the movement.