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6 o'clock. Everybody has a seat. We will
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bring the West Mel City of West
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Melbourne March 3rd, 2006 meeting to
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order. Please stand for the pledge in a
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moment of silent meditation.
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>> I aliance to the flag of the United
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States of America and to the republic
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for it stands. One nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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» You may be seated.
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» Thank you very much. Uh, welcome to
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tonight's meeting of the city council.
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Members of the public are welcome to
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speak on any topic, whether it is on
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tonight's agenda or on any issue that is
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important to you. Each person that
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wishes to speak should complete a
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speaker's card which are located by the
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glass doors and submit them ahead of
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time to the city clerk who sits at the
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end of the dis. After you have been
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recognized to speak, please use the
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microphone at the podium to clearly
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state your name and address for the
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record. Please address all comments to
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your to the city council rather than to
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individual members. Direct all questions
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to the chair. Speakers will be given up
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to three minutes to speak. Thank you.
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All right. Our first item is uh Irish
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Heritage Month. May would Brian McCann
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please come forward and meet you at the
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podium.
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requual
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apology
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that are being built now. We're under
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construction now and then this won't
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happen. All right. So, here we go. I
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have to have eyeballs on won't be able
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to read this [clears throat] at all.
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right. uh whereas by 1776 nearly
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300,000 Irish nationals had immigrated
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to the American colonies and played a
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crucial role in America's war for
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independence and whereas five signers of
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the Declaration of Independence were
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Irish descent and three signers were
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born Irish were I'm sorry Irish born and
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whereas 22 presidents have proudly
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proclaimed their Irish American heritage
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and whereas the Irish first came to the
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Spanish La Florida in the 1500s, first
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as missionaries and mercenaries,
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soldiers, and then as planters, traders,
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businessmen, doctors, and
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administrators. And whereas three of the
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Spanish governors of La Florida were
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actually Irish military officers. And
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whereas Irish Flityians can look back
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with pride on the legacy of their Irish
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forebears who have contributed
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significantly to the American education,
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business, sports, literature, science,
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engineering, medicine, science, and the
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arts. And whereas Irish Americans
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continue to provide leadership in this
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nation's political, business, and
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religious establishments. Now therefore
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be it proclaimed that the mayor and city
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council of the city of West Melbourne,
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Bvard County, Florida, hereby proclaim
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the month of March 2026 as Irish
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American Heritage Month and call upon
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our citizens to celebrate their heritage
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and the contributions of Irish Americans
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to the success of this great nation.
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Witness this by hand in the seal of the
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city on the third day of March, 2026.
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Thank you very much. Would you like to
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say a few words?
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>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. We just like to
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say a thank you for proclaiming March
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2026 Irish Heritage Month. The Irish
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Americans uh Ancient Order of
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Fiburnians, our division, Bvard County
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Division 2. Thank you very much for the
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proclamation and celebrating us. Thank
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you.
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>> Thank you.
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Thank you very much. Thank
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you very much. We do appreciate
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>> this till next year.
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>> Hopefully we'll see you all at the
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parade March 14th 10 a.m.
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>> Thank you.
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>> What time is the parade?
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» That's a fair point.
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All right. Our next item would be
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introduction of new employees. We're
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going to be doing one and two. Number
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three will be has been postponed till
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our next meeting. Um, finance director
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Keith Smith. Thank you.
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» All right. Good evening, Mayor, uh,
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Deputy Mayor, and members of the
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council. Uh it is my pleasure to
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introduce the three newest members of
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our finance team. Um probably a long
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overdue introduction so because they've
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been here for a couple of months. But um
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you know nonetheless we're very happy to
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have these three individuals as part of
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our team. Uh quite often these are the
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first faces that our residents encounter
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whenever they walk into city hall to pay
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their water sewer bills. Uh, and these
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young women do an amazing job of giving
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our residents the customer service that
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they deserve. Um, they represented the
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city with the utmost professionalism and
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patience and it is my pleasure to
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welcome them aboard our team. So, right
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now I'll go ahead introduce Ela
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Baragano, Florence Ren Marine, and Kim
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Perak. Um, I'll let
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>> Welcome. [laughter]
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>> They were tough. I actually tried to get
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you reassure myself on the
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pronunciation. So, Uh, I'll give them an
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opportunity to introduce themselves.
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>> Hello everyone. I'm Ela Baragano and I
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just want to thank the council and Mr.
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Roadie for giving me the opportunity to
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serve this wonderful, wonderful city of
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West Melbourne. Thank you.
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>> Well, thank you.
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>> Good evening, council mayor, Mr. Roadie.
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Thank you for this opportunity. I am
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excited to work in this great city. I
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love living here. So, I just want to
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thank you for the opportunity.
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>> Thank you, Florence.
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>> Good evening, Mayor, Mr. Council
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members, thank you guys for the
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opportunity for being here. It's been a
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great few months working for the city.
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So, thank you.
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>> Thank you, Kim. Thank you. All right.
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Thank you very much.
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» Thank you. Next up is Aaron Murphy.
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Irish American month.
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Good evening, mayor, deputy mayor,
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council. I am very, very excited to
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introduce Isabella Kadan.
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I said it so many times today. Katalano.
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Um, she has been with the city about a
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month and, um, she is in school right
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now studying business and real estate.
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Um, and she will be at the skate park.
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She is our new recreation worker.
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All right. Thank you.
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>> I'm Isabella. I've Yes. I've been
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working for over a month now and um I've
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really enjoyed working for the city and
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everyone is very nice and welcoming and
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so I've just really liked working here
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and yeah. Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
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» Did you have a question? And I didn't
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see your light.
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[laughter]
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>> No. Next time.
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All right, we have no modifications to
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the agenda and we have no public
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hearings and I have no cards for public
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forum. Go right to the consent agenda,
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Miss Adams.
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>> I'll make a motion to approve the
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consent agenda.
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>> All right, thank you.
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>> Mr. Frampus.
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>> Second.
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>> All right, we have a motion on the floor
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from Miss Adams and a second from Mr.
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Frampus. All those in favor, please
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signify by saying I. I. Those opposed
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say nay. Motion carries 70. Thank you.
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Next item is uh um the purchase of the
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vacant land on Henry Avenue,
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>> Mr. Petroni. Thank you.
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>> Good evening, mayor, deputy mayor,
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council members. Um yes, we're here to
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talk about purchasing a piece of vacant
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land on Henry Avenue. Um, as you know,
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we are systematically purchasing
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property along Park Hill. Um, with the
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most recent one being 431 and Park Hill
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that was approved at the last meeting.
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Um, I was approached by this group,
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explained to them the process. They
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authorized me to do an appraisal which
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is attached to my report. Um, it came in
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at uh 139,000.
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Uh, we proceeded to negotiate and
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accepted that purchase price of the 139.
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The contract is also attached. Uh it is
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subject to a phase one environmental and
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any clear title. Uh we did come in in
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front of you now just to get this
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formality out of the way. If it does not
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approve then we will not move forward
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with it. But I wanted to make sure we
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were at the point that we could move
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forward it. It's approximately uh just
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about an acre. It's on the north side of
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the the plant uh to adjacent to it and
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it does front on Henry Avenue.
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owner's amicable to everything that I'm
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telling you here tonight. Um, so from
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that standpoint, uh, on the fiscal side,
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there's really no negative impact as you
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can see with our the cash balance in our
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utility enterprise fund. This is also
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part of the overall budget for the water
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plant as well. So based on all the
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positivenesses on this, um I'm here to
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recommend that you authorize the city
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manager to execute the contract for the
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purchase of the two parcels. Their tax
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IDs are noted um that's adjacent to the
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water plant and pending the satisfactory
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results of the title and the phase one.
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And I'm here to answer any questions.
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>> Thank you, Miss Adams.
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>> Thank you, mayor. In terms of the
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property itself, the plan is to use it
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for our utilities for for that
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expansion. In terms of doing that U in
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and out of the property, correct?
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>> Well, this opens up a whole new
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possibility of creating a loop coming in
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from Park Hill. Oop, excuse me, from
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Park Hill and going back out. Um, so
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yeah, we're going to probably go back to
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the drawing board to see how it's going
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to play into it. But that's the goal.
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And our last property that we purchased
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adjacent to the land that we already
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own, we know we have to take down a
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house and do some clearing. In this
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land, we don't have to do that
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additional clearing with that cost.
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Correct.
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>> There's no house, right?
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>> There is some trees.
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>> Are we are we taking out the trees and
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doing landscape changes to it?
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>> Haven't gotten that far yet. I would
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imagine eventually somewhere down
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shortly down the road. That would
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probably be the goal. Yeah, we'll
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ultimately follow the process and do a
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tree survey and take a look at what can
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stay and what can go. But ultimately,
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um, we originally tried to get this
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years ago with the idea of of kind of a,
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you know, one way one way in or a a
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predominant way in and a predominant way
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out um, for the plant and for public
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works. And we're never able to acquire
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it until um, when it rains a pores. We now have several residents in that
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area that um have appreciated our our
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constant contact by our project uh
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project manager, Mr. Petroni, and and um
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have I'll say a renewed interest in
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possibly selling to the city of West
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Melbourne. And so this property uh
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really yields itself to a possibility of
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a of some kind of roadway
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in and out to the project site.
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>> How many parcels are left that we're
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still considering if they were for sale?
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>> There's about four more along
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>> four key. Yeah.
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>> And there's um maybe five. And then if
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you look at the attachment, there's a
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property directly to the west adjacent
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to this and then another one
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maybe six roughly approximately.
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>> Okay. Thank you. U I'll make a motion to
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authorize the city manager to execute
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the contract for the purchase of the two
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parcels. Thank you.
[22:38]
>> All right. Thank you. We have a motion
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from Miss Adams.
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>> Miss Magguire.
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>> Thank you, mayor. I will second.
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>> All right. Thank you. A motion from Miss
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Adams and a second from Miss Magcguire.
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All those in favor, please signify by
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saying I. I. Those opposed say nay.
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Motion carries 70.
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>> Good evening.
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>> Thank you, Mr. Patron.
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Um, all right. Next item. Um,
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land clearing, rough grading, and
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seating of approximately 4.85 acres.
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Tom Bradford. Thank you.
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>> Good evening, mayor, deputy mayor,
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members of council. Uh so as you know uh
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the city acquired a 24 acre parcel um in
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about mid December uh just south of the
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community park on Mitten Flanigan the
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corner and uh with the intention of um
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including that in the park system um
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recreation space park space uh and so
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this is really kind of the next step in
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that process of uh clearing out uh a
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portion of the uh the wooded area that
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would be along flinging in Minton. Uh at
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that northeast corner, uh there are a
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number of trees that we are going to uh
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try to save. We've got the planning
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department has a tree survey that they
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had taken a look at. Um as part of this,
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we will go in and flag those trees that
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we'd like to to save. Uh but we did
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acquire three proposals for the
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clearing. um rough grading and seating
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for this uh portion of the property. And
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the lowest bid um is 89,971
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and that is from AllPro Land Clearing
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who we've worked with in the past.
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They've done work for us uh after
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hurricanes uh cleaning up debris. Uh
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they've done a number of uh jobs for us
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that we've worked with them and so we're
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very comfortable with uh that company.
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Uh we've also worked with Superior Tree.
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Uh we've not worked that I'm aware of
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with UTI site work, but um the one we're
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recommending this evening is Alpro. Uh
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so happy to answer answer any questions.
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Uh but we're looking for your
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authorization for the city manager to uh
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enter to an agreement with Alpro uh to
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clear rough grade and seed uh somewhere
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between four and five acres of that uh
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corner.
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>> All right. Thank you, Miss Boltz.
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Well, I will make an motion that we um
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move forward um with that and approve
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it. Um but
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I had um
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>> Hold on. Let me get a second. Mr.
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Frampus.
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>> Second with questions.
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>> All right. Thank you, Miss Voltz. Your
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question. Um
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we're not paving it. Correct.
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>> No, this is just the first phase. This
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isn't going to even be uh final grade.
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This is just to get some trees cleared
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out of that corner and kind of set it up
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for the next phase. Uh but looking to
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clear that off, do some uh seating to
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get some stabilization in there. But at
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some point in the future, we would come
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forward to the council with some
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proposed concept plans and and some
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architectural renderings to look at. And
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so that those are down the road. This is
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really just kind of the next step and
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clearing it out to kind of make way for
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those next steps.
[25:47]
>> Thank you. All right, Mr. Francis, your
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questions.
[25:51]
>> It appears you're just uh clearing out
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the corner area. Why not do the the
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planned trail? Cuz it seems like it
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would make sense to do it all at one
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time, the the front part and what's
[26:03]
cutting through like the center. Why?
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not?
[26:06]
>> Yeah. So, with any development like
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that, there's probably going to have to
[26:09]
be Phil brought in and bring it to true
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grade. And we don't know where that is
[26:13]
right this minute. And so whether how
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much of that we would have to bring in
[26:17]
to do the trail and that's kind of the
[26:19]
next step. This is really clearing out
[26:20]
the the wooded area and getting it sort
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of set up for the next phase. So we we
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don't have included the proposed trail
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because we had looked at a couple of
[26:28]
concepts but never settled on official
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you know we we never brought to a vote
[26:33]
what that future site is going to look
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like. But one thing that we had um
[26:38]
discussed was the potential community
[26:40]
center being on that that corner that's
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mo that's closest to the community park
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and the rest was going to come in
[26:46]
multiple phases kind of down the road.
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And so we were just kind of starting
[26:49]
with the first part. Um but at some
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point down the road I think you know
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that there is desire to have additional
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trails and bike and walk path. We just
[26:58]
haven't gotten to that point with
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development of the site.
[27:01]
>> Thank you. Our public works crews also
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has the equipment to do the trails, but
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big open spaces like this, you know, you
[27:10]
need that you need the big boy toys to to clear efficiently on large sites.
[27:16]
>> Somebody else to have the liability
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also.
[27:18]
>> Well, that that headache, too. But, you
[27:20]
know, we have we have midsize to small
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equipment. We don't have any of the
[27:24]
>> I don't want to break our stuff,
[27:26]
>> the the big the big guns.
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>> Okay, Miss Adams.
[27:29]
>> Thank you. As a followup on that, I know
[27:32]
council had talked about during the
[27:34]
workshop uh trying to remove the
[27:36]
invasive pepper trees from that
[27:38]
property. This wouldn't necessarily be
[27:41]
that. This is just looking at the
[27:42]
specific acreage and then we'll look at
[27:45]
the trails and removing the invasive at
[27:48]
another time.
[27:49]
>> Yeah, I think the vision is that we'll
[27:50]
bring forward a more complete overall
[27:52]
sort of master plan if you will. But in
[27:55]
each of those plan concepts, the
[27:58]
community recreation center is kind of
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in this spot. So, this seemed like an
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easy first step to kind of get moving on
[28:03]
it and then continue to work on those
[28:06]
renderings and those um sort of option
[28:08]
A, option B, you know, how do we want to
[28:10]
develop this moving forward and sort of
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that master plan piece. Um so, we we
[28:14]
aren't quite at that point with the
[28:15]
master plan, but yeah, there there would
[28:18]
certainly be more phases to come. This
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is just sort of the first step.
[28:21]
>> Understood. And Mr. Rodie, it's my
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understanding we're moving this forward
[28:25]
at this time even though we don't have a
[28:27]
final concept plan because it'll save us
[28:29]
money since we've got some other
[28:30]
construction going on so that we can
[28:32]
move the dirt from one site to the other
[28:34]
without paying additional for it.
[28:35]
Correct.
[28:36]
>> Yeah. Our capital projects uh manager
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continues to continues to do more and
[28:42]
more projects which supplies us with a
[28:45]
healthy amount of dirt. And so, uh,
[28:48]
being able to utilize this site to help
[28:51]
get it to final grade and have a place
[28:53]
to take it so we only have to truck it
[28:55]
once. Uh,
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>> dirt's not cheap.
[28:58]
>> Well, I, as I like to tell people, when
[29:01]
you need dirt, it's expensive. When you
[29:03]
have dirt, it's hard to get rid of. And
[29:06]
that always seems to be the case. And
[29:08]
right now, with our uh with our
[29:10]
multitude of projects, we have dirt. And
[29:13]
so if we can start putting it on this
[29:16]
site and get a good level base to to
[29:18]
start this project from, uh, it
[29:20]
certainly cost is a big cost savings to
[29:22]
the city.
[29:23]
>> I like cost savings for the city.
[29:25]
Although Mark, we're we're two for two
[29:27]
for big projects being on time and under
[29:30]
budget. So the expectation is high now
[29:34]
>> that it is. Thank you,
[29:35]
>> Mr. Bentley.
[29:36]
>> Thank you, Mayor. [clears throat]
[29:40]
I guess I have a couple of questions.
[29:41]
One is on the first quote on 8B-4.
[29:47]
It says well bill for actuals. Is that
[29:49]
just an estimate for cost that they put
[29:50]
in there or is there not a cost but they estimated 4.85 acres. We had
[29:57]
estimated slightly less on the
[29:59]
rendering. Um so it may vary just a
[30:01]
little bit but I I don't know that it's
[30:03]
going to go over that. Um so I'm not too
[30:06]
concerned about that. Yeah.
[30:07]
>> Okay. So the 6971 is their estimate.
[30:13]
I'm looking at the uh sod install
[30:16]
on the allp pro land
[30:19]
>> all pro sod install the 211,000.
[30:22]
>> Yeah. And it says we'll bill for actual.
[30:24]
So that they just estimated and they'll
[30:26]
give you an actual bill when they get
[30:27]
it.
[30:28]
>> Is that what that is?
[30:29]
>> If it takes more, but again I don't
[30:30]
know.
[30:31]
>> It's not that much, right?
[30:33]
>> Uh
[30:35]
and the second contractor says they
[30:37]
include debris removal. Is that included
[30:39]
in the first one? It's just not shown.
[30:42]
>> Uh it it does re it does include um land
[30:46]
clearing. So at the at the top um just
[30:48]
under the land clearing section.
[30:49]
>> Okay. Debris says removal of trees.
[30:51]
Right. Yeah.
[30:52]
>> Thank you sir.
[30:54]
>> Mr. Frampus.
[30:56]
>> I forgot to ask uh in the rendering you
[30:59]
show in the yellow section that large uh
[31:02]
area of trees. That's definitely staying
[31:05]
correct. The square section of trees in
[31:08]
the rendering.
[31:09]
Yeah, we're going to try to save as many
[31:11]
as possible. As with all of these types
[31:13]
of things, when you start bringing fill
[31:14]
in, it's hard. You know, there's no
[31:16]
guarantee that they'll survive, but um
[31:18]
the planning department obviously very
[31:21]
adamant about saving trees and as are
[31:24]
>> just the red dots. I'm talking about the large green section within the
[31:28]
yellow square. Correct.
[31:32]
>> The large green section. Um
[31:35]
it'll all be dirt to start with. This is
[31:37]
just a con. This is part of one of the
[31:39]
concepts that shows that as being grassy
[31:41]
area.
[31:42]
>> This looks like trees to me.
[31:44]
>> Um that's grassy area. The dots are the
[31:48]
larger trees that they were intending to
[31:49]
save
[31:50]
>> because this picture looks like the rest
[31:52]
of the green area on here.
[31:55]
>> Yeah, that that's a concept. It's just a rendering concept that you
[31:59]
know we intend to kind of leave a buffer
[32:01]
at the back edge. um that whole section
[32:03]
in that in that
[32:04]
>> I was just wondering
[32:06]
>> square would be
[32:07]
>> I'm wondering why we're not leaving
[32:08]
those trees because it's not a area
[32:10]
that's going to be utilized for parking
[32:13]
or recreation or any of that kind of
[32:15]
stuff. So why take it out?
[32:17]
>> Well, they've identified the larger
[32:18]
trees there. You see two 18 in trees
[32:20]
down toward the bottom. And so there
[32:22]
must not have been in that area trees
[32:24]
that they felt were of a size and
[32:26]
quality to save because you can see even
[32:28]
through the community center area
[32:29]
they've have dots through there.
[32:31]
>> Right. Right. And so we're going to try
[32:32]
to save those, but at some point they
[32:34]
may have to come down. If the the
[32:36]
concept that's ultimately agreed to or selected by council shows a building
[32:40]
there, then obviously those are going to
[32:41]
have to be removed. Um but yeah, it's it
[32:44]
this is just part of the concept. That's
[32:46]
not a tree area. That's just kind of a
[32:48]
grass area.
[32:49]
>> Pretty much everything in the yellow
[32:50]
block is coming out except for the red
[32:52]
dots.
[32:53]
>> Correct.
[32:54]
>> And most of it is scrub brush.
[32:56]
>> Yes. We walked the site and we for sure
[32:59]
>> it's it's not as if it's pristine in any
[33:05]
>> doesn't look that bad from the road. So
[33:06]
>> it it doesn't but when you get inside
[33:08]
it's I assure you it's a lot of
[33:11]
invasives and a lot of scrub brush.
[33:13]
>> I didn't see a lot of big beautiful oak
[33:15]
trees or anything like that. It was
[33:17]
Yeah.
[33:20]
» All right. Thank you. Any more No more
[33:22]
questions. All right. We have a motion
[33:24]
on the floor from Miss Adams and a
[33:25]
second from Mr. Frampus. Um, all those
[33:28]
in favor, please signify by saying I.
[33:30]
>> I. Those opposed say nay. Motion
[33:33]
carries. 70.
[33:36]
>> Thank you. 8 C. Uh, the approval of the
[33:40]
2026 land development standards manual.
[33:42]
C. Uh, CAM. There we go. Cam Stabbus. I
[33:45]
don't see a Cam Stabbath. Oh, there we
[33:48]
are. Now I do.
[33:50]
Good evening, mayor, deputy mayor,
[33:53]
council members. I'm Cam Stabis. I'm the
[33:55]
city engineer and I'm here before you
[33:56]
tonight to recommend that you adopt the
[33:58]
revisions to the 2024, now the 2026 land
[34:01]
development standards manual. It was
[34:03]
previously called the engineering
[34:04]
standards manual. It was changed, I
[34:05]
believe, in 2020 now the land
[34:07]
development standards manual. It guides
[34:08]
contractors and developers when they
[34:10]
come and do residential and commercial
[34:12]
development in the city. U had about
[34:15]
this last revision is about 25 or so
[34:17]
revisions made. Nothing super big, just
[34:19]
more stuff to kind of give us a little
[34:20]
more control over the contractors. For
[34:22]
instance, we want pipe to be beded 57
[34:25]
stone. Originally, we kind of gave them
[34:26]
an option of a few different things.
[34:28]
They'd want to cheap out or do stuff we
[34:29]
didn't really like. And so, we kind of
[34:31]
wanted to nail them down with a couple
[34:32]
things there. So, that's an example.
[34:34]
Another one was we didn't specify that
[34:37]
concrete pre-cast manholes for storm
[34:39]
water should be bedded on 57 stone,
[34:41]
whereas we did for sanitary and water.
[34:43]
So, just tightening up things like that.
[34:45]
couple values were changed but nothing
[34:47]
really as far as uh huge huge u
[34:52]
consequences to the contractors or
[34:54]
developers. So uh we did introduce the
[34:57]
fat oils and grease program that's in
[34:59]
the sanitary so that that was there's no
[35:01]
language in there up to that point. So
[35:03]
we introduced that and again we have
[35:05]
about 25 or so different revisions
[35:06]
ranging from small grammatical things or
[35:09]
changing a title of someone that's
[35:12]
mentioned in there to
[35:14]
uh quantitative uh amount we did use or
[35:16]
reduce was uh density testing every 250
[35:19]
ft along the center line of roadways and
[35:21]
it was 500 before that but other than
[35:24]
that not too much quantitative change
[35:26]
and illustrative details have not
[35:27]
changed and then our approved
[35:29]
manufacturers we were looking into maybe
[35:30]
doing that in the future but that take a
[35:32]
little more uh extensive kind of review
[35:34]
so those those have stayed the same for
[35:35]
right now
[35:37]
>> right thank you u Mr. Francis,
[35:41]
[cough]
[35:41]
>> excuse [clears throat] me.
[35:42]
>> So, it it did appear that most of the
[35:45]
changes were technical in nature. Is was
[35:48]
all this based on what we wanted or was
[35:51]
it some like state upgrades or where did
[35:56]
we come up with all the ideas to change?
[35:58]
>> These are recommendations that were made
[35:59]
in our divisions, our utilities
[36:00]
division. So, water, sewer, capital
[36:03]
projects also had some input. So, I I
[36:05]
sent the document out. Me and my
[36:07]
construction inspector already been kind
[36:08]
of talking about some things that we had
[36:10]
in mind to change. Sent those out to
[36:12]
different divisions, received comments
[36:13]
back. I I put them in a register to kind
[36:15]
of make sure that they're not nothing's
[36:17]
contradicting. And we didn't
[36:19]
>> So, it wasn't standards. It was just
[36:20]
preference on our part.
[36:22]
>> Well, yeah. And I I think maybe some of
[36:24]
the stuff you're looking at now, I'm not
[36:26]
sure what's in front of you, but some of
[36:27]
the changes that I was shown this
[36:29]
morning may not be last round from 26.
[36:33]
or some paint changes and what type of
[36:37]
pipe you use and yeah so
[36:39]
>> that may have been a previous change I
[36:40]
don't know if paint has been changed
[36:42]
this last revision
[36:44]
>> okay it was on it was highlighted as one
[36:46]
of the changes so
[36:48]
>> okay
[36:48]
>> yeah some some of what the utility you
[36:51]
know our our water and sewer department
[36:54]
and and our construction department
[36:56]
you know you you give these standards
[36:59]
and then they try not not every
[37:02]
contractor contractor per se, but they try to find where they can
[37:06]
>> well it did say
[37:07]
>> cut the cost a little
[37:08]
>> we recommend or something other approved
[37:11]
by the city so compatible. So
[37:13]
>> and and then they say well show show me
[37:15]
where it says I have to do that.
[37:18]
>> Some of the changes just seemed you know
[37:24]
less important. I didn't know if it was
[37:25]
a standard change by like a national
[37:28]
standard change or something like that.
[37:29]
And I was just curious. Yeah, we, you
[37:32]
know, all all of these standards uh
[37:34]
reflect items that developers are
[37:37]
putting in that we are going to own and
[37:39]
have to maintain. And so every time the
[37:41]
crew comes back and says, "Boy, you
[37:43]
know, I wish I wish they would have done
[37:45]
it this way." We don't have a problem
[37:47]
when they do it this way and they did it
[37:49]
that way.
[37:51]
>> We make a note. Yeah. We we make a note.
[37:53]
It's not pressing. We don't come to the
[37:55]
council every other month and say, "This
[37:57]
is, you know, we want this line
[37:58]
changed." We we note we note all those
[38:00]
items and and uh planning um Cam has
[38:05]
done a great job um you know helping put
[38:07]
all those items together with the team
[38:09]
and then we try to do this every couple
[38:11]
of years. We try to bring it just try to
[38:13]
keep it updated.
[38:14]
>> Didn't seem like much about 12 or 15
[38:16]
things in a whole document. So it was
[38:18]
good.
[38:18]
>> It's not huge but there there are some
[38:20]
important items in there for us.
[38:22]
>> Mayor I make a motion we approve the
[38:24]
resolution 2026-05
[38:26]
as written.
[38:27]
>> All right. Thank you, Miss Adams.
[38:29]
>> I'll second.
[38:31]
>> All right, we have a motion on the floor
[38:32]
from Mr. Frampus and a second from Miss
[38:34]
Adams. All those in favor, please
[38:36]
signify by saying I.
[38:37]
>> I. Those oppos say nay. Motion carries
[38:40]
70.
[38:42]
>> Thank you. Good job. Thank you.
[38:46]
» Okay. All right. Well, that was easy.
[38:48]
Council reports, Mr. Bentley.
[38:50]
>> Well, that was quick.
[38:53]
[laughter]
[38:54]
A few items. Um, I did attend I think it
[38:56]
was Boy Scouts things that Alexis put on
[38:59]
with uh a group of young people. Really
[39:03]
young people. Of course, anybody's young
[39:05]
to me, but and also um their parents and
[39:11]
you know been to a lot of events over
[39:12]
the last 10 years and this was really
[39:16]
fun and really nice and the kids had a
[39:18]
great time and Lieutenant did a bangup
[39:21]
job. They loved the tour. Um, I'm not
[39:24]
sure that could have gone any better.
[39:25]
You did really good on that. So,
[39:27]
congratulations. That was just really a
[39:29]
nice event for the I think it's a boy or
[39:31]
scouts. I won't say boy scouts, but
[39:32]
scouts. And uh I don't think that could
[39:36]
have gone any better. So, um then like
[39:39]
most everybody else attended the dirt
[39:41]
toss at the new building department.
[39:44]
[snorts]
[39:45]
>> That's what we did. And uh so that was
[39:48]
okay. Huh.
[39:53]
uh it's not open yet. And then uh do you
[39:56]
plan on attending so that everybody
[39:58]
knows if it's probably already too late
[39:59]
to sign up, but we have the Palm Bay
[40:00]
Chamber tomorrow for those that are
[40:02]
going to go. And I did attend the I
[40:04]
guess it's an annual event for the WNBA,
[40:07]
West Melbourne Business Association.
[40:10]
And you know, that went really well and
[40:12]
you know, I'd like to see it better
[40:14]
attended. This is one of the fewer ones
[40:16]
that I've seen attendance wise. So, I'd
[40:19]
like to get back to where we were, but
[40:21]
I'm I'm sure everybody will work on
[40:23]
that. Thank you, Mayor.
[40:24]
>> All right. Thank you, Mr. Gaylord.
[40:27]
>> Well, I had a report, but Mr. Bentley
[40:28]
stole all of my items, so nothing to
[40:31]
report.
[40:31]
>> All right. Thank you, Miss Magguire.
[40:34]
um to give more information on that. So,
[40:37]
I had uh Cub Scout Pack 374, who is one
[40:40]
of our West Melbourne um scout groups,
[40:43]
who asked they had a I think I mentioned
[40:45]
it last meeting, but they needed to have
[40:47]
to speak with an elected official about
[40:49]
pretty much how the elections work from
[40:52]
the day you decide that you want to run
[40:53]
up until the day you actually get
[40:55]
elected. And so, they met with us over
[40:58]
at the PD. We kind of talked to them.
[40:59]
They asked questions and then afterwards
[41:02]
uh Lieutenant Aaron St gave them a what
[41:04]
they called the best tour ever from some
[41:07]
of them of our um our PD. Um and then
[41:10]
they got to see like the Pterodine. So
[41:12]
they they all had a blast. Um I have
[41:15]
been hearing about it for now over a
[41:18]
week from how from parents that are just
[41:20]
so their kids keep bringing it up and
[41:22]
they just really enjoyed it. So it was a good event and thank you to the
[41:26]
uh council members that did come out and
[41:27]
support as well. We we have applications
[41:30]
available. It's never too early. Never
[41:32]
too early to start.
[41:35]
>> Mr. Francis.
[41:37]
>> Uh thanks, Mayor. I did attend the the
[41:39]
groundbreaking for the thing and I think
[41:42]
uh Mr. Rodie and Megan, you guys did a
[41:44]
great job putting that on and uh
[41:46]
appreciate it. Thank you. Nothing else.
[41:49]
>> All right. Thank you, Miss Bolt.
[41:53]
Um, yes, I attended um Joe Robinson's
[41:57]
funeral from Titusville. Um, I was up
[42:00]
there. That was that was very nice. Um,
[42:03]
I also
[42:05]
um poked my head in for the um citizens
[42:08]
academy last on Wednesday, last
[42:11]
Wednesday, when Mr. Smith gave an
[42:14]
awesome um report on budgeting and the
[42:19]
city finances and all that stuff. So,
[42:21]
that was that was very nice. Um, and of
[42:25]
course I did attend the the dirt
[42:28]
throwing the dirt throwing. Um, and that
[42:31]
was good. And y'all did an awesome job
[42:35]
um putting that on for us. So, can't
[42:38]
wait for it to be done.
[42:41]
>> Miss Adams,
[42:42]
>> a couple additional things to note. Uh,
[42:44]
the Florida League of Cities held their
[42:46]
first virtual ethics training. That's
[42:49]
the statemandated training that happens
[42:51]
every year. So, got that done. But just
[42:53]
a reminder that they do offer it at
[42:55]
least two more times virtually
[42:56]
throughout the year and then they will
[42:58]
do it again at the conference. So, just
[43:00]
putting that on your radar if you're
[43:01]
someone like me that likes to plan
[43:03]
ahead. Uh the Citizens Leadership
[43:05]
Academy, I popped in while uh Mr. Roadie
[43:08]
and Mr. Kerry were giving their
[43:09]
presentations. U very great group of of
[43:12]
residents. They asked some good
[43:14]
questions which is great. Uh the scouts
[43:17]
presentation, Alexis, you did a great
[43:19]
job. I think the kids asked great
[43:22]
questions. Their parents asked some
[43:24]
great questions and everybody was really
[43:26]
hands-on. Uh they asked some very
[43:28]
specific elections questions and you you
[43:30]
handled it like a pro. So great job on
[43:32]
that. Uh the state of the city went well
[43:35]
with the business association and our
[43:37]
board. Although I agree with Mr.
[43:38]
Bentley. I don't know if there were
[43:40]
other events happening that night or it
[43:42]
is the season for people to get sick.
[43:44]
So, we just had a lower attendance than
[43:46]
normal, but staff did a great job with
[43:48]
setting that up and making it a really
[43:50]
nice event for the volunteers and
[43:52]
business association members that could
[43:54]
show up. Uh, the groundbreaking went
[43:56]
very well and I did want to note two
[43:59]
additional things. Um, I wore I wore
[44:02]
green in honor of two things. Um, it is
[44:04]
Irish Heritage Month. It's also cerebral
[44:07]
palsy awareness month. Um, so just a
[44:09]
reminder if you're someone that wants to
[44:10]
join me wearing green, I did it today
[44:12]
and I'll do it in two weeks on a
[44:13]
Tuesday. So you have your advanced
[44:15]
notice. Mr. RD's already checking in his
[44:18]
closet if he's got some green. Um, and
[44:20]
then for your planning purposes, I
[44:23]
wanted to invite council if you would
[44:25]
like to attend on either April 9th or
[44:28]
10th. U, I know that I've spoken about
[44:30]
New Life Mission in the past and the
[44:32]
work that they do to address
[44:34]
homelessness uh, for single moms with
[44:36]
kids in our community. Uh my husband and
[44:38]
I are co-chairing their community care
[44:40]
and share fundraiser event this year on
[44:42]
those dates and so I'm happy to have you
[44:46]
at our tables. [clears throat] U the
[44:47]
event is free itself although since it's
[44:49]
a fundraiser that covers a significant
[44:51]
portion of their budget so that their
[44:53]
mission can continue. I encourage you to
[44:55]
bring your checkbook. So just let me
[44:57]
know probably in the next two weeks if
[44:59]
you'd like to attend and I will pencil
[45:00]
you in. But wanted to make you aware of
[45:02]
those two things. Thank you, Mayor.
[45:04]
>> All right. Thank you, Miss Adams. Okay.
[45:06]
Anyone else have any comments? Oh, yes,
[45:09]
Miss Holtz.
[45:09]
>> Yes. Something that Paul brought to my
[45:12]
attention um that uh June is faith and
[45:18]
family month. And he has a proclamation
[45:21]
here that he was hoping that um the city
[45:25]
of Clearwater has done it and he was
[45:27]
hoping that the city of West Melbourne
[45:29]
would do it. Um and he's got copies, I
[45:33]
think, for everybody. if um if you would
[45:36]
just all like to take a look at it and
[45:38]
we'll talk about it uh at the next
[45:41]
meeting.
[45:42]
Okay. You've got one too.
[45:44]
>> I do. That's what I was going to talk
[45:45]
about.
[45:46]
>> Oh, okay.
[45:47]
>> But that's okay. You
[45:48]
>> thought you said you were I thought you
[45:50]
said it was all done. Okay.
[45:51]
>> No, I just hadn't gotten here yet. But
[45:52]
>> Okay.
[45:53]
>> On that note, everyone has has mentioned
[45:55]
everything that that has gone on and and
[45:58]
this and this as well. So, we'll go
[46:00]
right over to management reports. Mr.
[46:01]
Roie.
[46:03]
>> All right. real brief and then I'll let
[46:05]
uh Chief Vesta put a plug in for Cops on
[46:09]
the Coupe. But um uh really appreciate
[46:11]
the groundbreaking. I think it's uh
[46:13]
going to be an amazing project for the
[46:15]
city and and can't wait to have a a a
[46:19]
better council chambers that represents
[46:21]
the the community that that one will be.
[46:24]
Um Citizens Academy is Wednesday again,
[46:27]
six o'clock. Feel free to stop in uh
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just either just say hi or attend the
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class. uh open invitation to the
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council. Um really good group with lots
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of good questions.
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Not not as many questions as past
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groups, but but good questions. Um next
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council meeting is going to be very
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parktheavy.
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Um we are we have posted notice uh
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following the city code in in order to
[46:55]
change the name of the park. And so
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we've put that notice out. Uh the park
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name will be on there. the park signs
[47:01]
will be on there and several different
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elements of parks will be involved. So
[47:05]
bear with us. It might might be a little
[47:09]
bit of a a longer session as we look at
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that stuff, but you know there's a lot
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of park things happening and we thought
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by putting them all together like that
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it gave good continuity and so we're uh
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that's coming on the next meeting in
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March and then I will turn it over to
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Chief Vesta to plug the amazing event.
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>> Oh yeah, you're all I know a couple of
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you are participating. We are hosting
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the Cops on the Coupe event. uh this
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Friday from 6:00 to 8 at uh the
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Chick-fil-A and Walmart parking lot on
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Palm Bay Road. Uh as you know, 100% of
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the proceeds go towards Special Olympics
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Florida. We're usually able to raise
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between the torch run and shirt sales on
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this several thousand dollars to uh
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benefit our our Special Olympics. So, uh
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we we invite you and the public to come
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out and looking forward to a great
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event. So, Friday 6:00 to 8:00 PM.
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>> Yes. Normally, I would get a QR code so
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that I could raise funds, but I never
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got a QR code. And so, when I had it for
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Friday, I thought, well, maybe I don't
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have it on the right date.
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>> Those have been developed, so I'll I'll
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make sure to uh take care of that. I'll
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get in touch.
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>> Yeah, send it to me. Maybe somehow or
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another I deleted it. Uh, whatever. But
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I I need to get that. Okay.
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>> Thank you.
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Mr. Kerry.
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Thank you. And I just wanted to let
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everybody know that a week from Friday
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is the last day of the legislative
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session. Today is the last day of Senate
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committee meetings. Um and if you all if
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any of you uh went to or watched the
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webinar for the League of Cities about
[48:47]
the legislature, they kind of gave their
[48:49]
strongest verbal indication yet that
[48:51]
they don't think that the property tax
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issue is going anywhere. Now, you know,
[48:56]
that that's obviously, you know, things
[48:59]
can happen in the last 10 days of
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session and and so, um, nothing's final
[49:03]
until the hanky drops, but um, it kind
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of seems like the Senate doesn't really
[49:07]
want to move that ball. Uh, that
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obviously doesn't foreclose the governor
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from calling a special session, but
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again, he can call a session, he can't
[49:15]
make him do anything, right? So, they
[49:16]
can open the session, close it, and not
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do anything. So, we'll see what happens
[49:20]
um, as far as getting a referendum on
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the ballot. But um I was kind of
[49:25]
surprised that the league uh gave an
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indication verbally that they thought it
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wasn't going to go anywhere. Um and also
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the 10th or excuse me the 13th being the
[49:38]
final day of session depends on them
[49:39]
getting the budget published on Tuesday.
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Uh because there's a law that they have
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to have a published budget for uh 72
[49:47]
hours before they can vote on it. So, if
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the budget drops on Tuesday, then the
[49:52]
session will probably be over Friday. If
[49:54]
it drops on Wednesday, then they'll go
[49:56]
into Saturday. So on and so forth. Um,
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so just uh some things to keep an eye
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on. So at the uh next meeting, we'll
[50:02]
obviously have a uh post session wrap-up
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that um it it's not going to be the the
[50:08]
full wrap-up where we go over the report
[50:10]
of the league. Just kind of more a
[50:12]
highlevel, you know, these things uh
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pass that concerned us, these don't. and
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we'll do the full wrap up uh in a couple
[50:18]
months after the league's report is done
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as usual. Thank you.
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>> All right. Thank you. Any other
[50:22]
comments?
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>> All right. This meeting is adjourned at
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uh let me see what time is it really?
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6:40.
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That's all.