[0:00] of the United States of America, and to

[0:02] the republic for which it stands, one

[0:05] nation under God, indivisible, with

[0:07] liberty and justice for all.

[0:14] » Roll call, Kevin.

[0:16] >> Here.

[0:18] >> Go ahead.

[0:19] >> I apologize for Kevin's tardiness.

[0:22] >> [snorts]

[0:22] >> Mark Hepner?

[0:24] >> Present.

[0:25] >> Kevin Heckley?

[0:26] >> Present.

[0:27] >> Joe Kelsey?

[0:31] » Right here.

[0:33] >> Roll call complete.

[0:35] >> Okay, Chief. You have anything for us tonight?

[0:38] >> Um

[0:39] the only thing I have is the situation

[0:41] with the stuff in the alley. Um

[0:46] That guy's had

[0:48] over 30 days since we've talked to We've

[0:50] talked to him twice, documented two

[0:52] reports.

[0:53] He keeps saying that he is going to move

[0:55] that stuff. He has not moved it.

[0:57] Uh

[0:59] officers there last week.

[1:01] He said that he was going to work on it

[1:02] this weekend.

[1:04] I drove by this morning.

[1:06] It doesn't look like anything's moved,

[1:07] so

[1:09] I think if it's

[1:10] >> [clears throat]

[1:11] >> if you guys agree, we'll give him

[1:14] 5 days. If he doesn't have it completed,

[1:16] then I think the city needs to

[1:19] um

[1:20] step in, either have

[1:23] your department go down and remove the

[1:24] stuff, or we hire a company and then

[1:26] send him the bill. So.

[1:28] >> Should we Do we need to involve code

[1:30] enforcement in this also?

[1:32] >> [snorts]

[1:32] >> He's Yeah, code enforcement's been over

[1:34] there, too. So.

[1:35] >> right.

[1:36] >> He's had He's had ample time to to

[1:37] remove the stuff. Like I said, we've uh

[1:41] you know, we talked to him over a month

[1:42] ago. We talked to him last week, so

[1:46] things aren't getting done. I feel like

[1:48] we need to take action to get this stuff

[1:50] completed.

[1:51] >> Okay.

[1:53] >> Sounds good to me.

[1:55] >> Do we need a formal letter or anything

[1:57] to him?

[1:58] >> I think he's moving.

[1:59] >> Yeah, we'll just wait until that happens

[2:01] and I think we do have to put something

[2:03] out there saying

[2:06] I don't know cuz we already gave him the time frame, so.

[2:10] >> He's had He's had over a month.

[2:11] >> Over a month.

[2:12] >> Did you give him Did you give him a

[2:13] number how many days or when he had it

[2:15] done by?

[2:17] >> Not yet. I mean, I will give him 5 days.

[2:18] >> to give You're going to give him the 5

[2:19] days then?

[2:20] >> Yeah, we'll give him 5 days tonight and

[2:22] I'll stop there.

[2:23] >> So.

[2:25] >> Is that a He's on Maple Lane, right?

[2:26] >> No, I forget the It's right on the

[2:28] corner.

[2:29] >> You want to give it What's the day of

[2:30] next Monday?

[2:33] >> 13th.

[2:34] >> You want to give him till the

[2:35] till

[2:37] midnight on the

[2:39] 12th?

[2:40] >> Yeah, give him Yeah.

[2:43] » Say that right? Be midnight on the 12th

[2:45] and 13th we can remove it.

[2:47] >> Yeah.

[2:48] >> You guys want to make that clear though.

[2:49] You got a deadline. You got a deadline.

[2:50] >> Yeah.

[2:51] >> It's not 5 days that we were out there

[2:52] Saturday and Sunday.

[2:53] >> I'll follow I'll follow up with a letter

[2:54] and give it to him. That way it outlines

[2:56] [snorts] it, so.

[2:57] We'll have one on file, he'll have one

[2:58] on file.

[2:59] >> Okay.

[3:01] >> Very good.

[3:01] >> Yeah, I think the best way to go about

[3:03] it is to hire unless you guys can do it.

[3:06] I don't know what's out there. So, if

[3:08] you guys are capable of doing it

[3:09] >> It's wood and a little building little

[3:11] lean-to building.

[3:12] >> If you guys are capable of doing it,

[3:13] then you guys do it. If you guys If it's

[3:15] too much for you guys

[3:16] >> look at it tomorrow. Is the lean Is the

[3:19] lean-to attached to his garage?

[3:21] >> I don't know. I'm [clears throat] not

[3:22] sure.

[3:24] >> Okay.

[3:25] >> So, and if it's too much for you guys,

[3:27] then we'll just hire a company, we'll

[3:29] pay it, and then we'll bill him.

[3:31] >> We'll put a tax roll on it or whatever

[3:32] if he doesn't pay it.

[3:34] >> Yeah, well, yeah, we'll put a lien on

[3:35] his house if he doesn't pay it.

[3:39] » Chief, anything else?

[3:40] >> Um

[3:41] >> [clears throat]

[3:41] >> one other thing, the

[3:43] I'd like to thank you for approving

[3:44] those cameras on the front of our

[3:45] building.

[3:47] Um

[3:49] last week we had a vehicle drive by and

[3:50] sideswipe one of our squad cars and

[3:52] didn't stop.

[3:54] Their [clears throat] mirror broke and

[3:56] our mirror hit our mirror but it didn't

[3:57] break.

[4:00] Through the cameras we were able to

[4:02] track down the subject and uh

[4:05] that subject got a few tickets and a day

[4:07] in court, so

[4:09] the cameras worked.

[4:10] >> Great.

[4:11] >> Good.

[4:12] >> Paid for themselves, all right.

[4:14] >> That's all I have.

[4:15] >> Anything else on the hiring process?

[4:16] >> Uh it's posted.

[4:18] >> It's posted?

[4:18] >> Yep.

[4:19] >> So

[4:19] >> till the end of

[4:20] >> July.

[4:20] >> Mhm.

[4:22] >> And we'll go from there.

[4:24] >> And I want to brought this up before,

[4:26] but during the interviews it'd be nice

[4:28] to for you to be here to answer any

[4:31] questions that they might have.

[4:32] >> Sure.

[4:33] >> You know, what's hours, how many hours a

[4:35] week, what shift, all those things, so.

[4:39] >> Yep.

[4:39] >> Okay.

[4:40] Ryan, you have anything for us?

[4:42] >> Yes, I do.

[4:44] Um

[4:45] you guys seen the emails go out a couple

[4:47] weeks ago, I think.

[4:48] >> Yes.

[4:49] >> Um for the chip and seal.

[4:51] Um just the formal letter from the

[4:53] county here. I know Joe, I talked to Joe

[4:56] and he you guys both were I didn't hear

[4:57] back from you, I don't think, but

[4:59] >> Yeah, we were on vacation.

[5:00] >> Um the county's going to chip and seal

[5:02] Stinger Street from Becker all the way

[5:04] to the concrete for $4,800. They'll chip

[5:07] and seal it. Um

[5:10] he drove down it, said most of the spots

[5:12] that we already patched it in and he

[5:13] goes it it should be fine.

[5:15] >> Yep.

[5:15] >> He goes he'll come out the day before

[5:17] doing it or something a few days before,

[5:18] so if we needed to go patch it again,

[5:20] stick the floor back down, so hopefully

[5:22] he said that should make that road last

[5:24] a little bit longer being there's

[5:26] nothing there, you know, on that road,

[5:28] so.

[5:28] >> How much was it again, Ryan?

[5:29] >> $4,800.

[5:31] I'll just give this to you.

[5:33] They're going to bill us direct, so

[5:36] >> [snorts]

[5:36] >> through our We have an interlocal

[5:37] agreement with them, so.

[5:40] And

[5:41] >> we need to make motion.

[5:43] >> Probably need to make a formal motion to

[5:44] that, yeah.

[5:46] >> Okay.

[5:47] Yeah, I'll make a motion that we go with

[5:49] uh uh

[5:50] our county [snorts] chip and seal

[5:52] for what is 4,000

[5:54] >> 800

[5:56] >> I'll second.

[5:57] >> All in favor say I.

[6:01] Approved.

[6:02] >> All right, then I also have a service

[6:06] agreement here from Silver Silver Smith

[6:08] who who who does our GIS.

[6:10] The I don't know why I have a new

[6:12] service agreement. I'm a little

[6:15] can't figure it out. Our tablets stopped

[6:17] working

[6:18] um

[6:19] about 2 weeks ago it all of a sudden

[6:21] said it had moisture and it was wet and

[6:23] it wouldn't charge.

[6:25] Um the IT guys looked at it, Parker

[6:27] looked at it and everything seemed fine.

[6:29] It's never gotten wet cuz it was

[6:30] actually sitting in the building when it

[6:32] started doing it. Uh so not sure,

[6:34] contacted Silver Smith, they gave a

[6:36] couple options to do to redo the things

[6:37] and it's still saying the exact same

[6:39] thing.

[6:40] They so they sent me a price to replace

[6:43] this with an This is several This is

[6:45] quite an old unit now.

[6:47] Uh the replace the new one is $450.

[6:50] The problem came in is I can't sign a

[6:53] contract or anything without your guys'

[6:54] approval or the mayor's approval. So

[6:57] they're holding that um till we sign

[7:00] this.

[7:00] Um

[7:01] I don't believe there was anything

[7:02] different from what we already under. We

[7:04] pay them annually a cost fee already. So

[7:07] nothing's changed. It's just you guys

[7:09] can read that if you want.

[7:10] I assume we need to get

[7:12] board approval to be able to sign sign

[7:15] >> Just one?

[7:15] yeah. We only have one, yeah.

[7:18] This will be This tablet actually is the

[7:19] only thing we can use to actually

[7:22] pinpoint the locations. I tried with my

[7:24] iPad, they won't let me do they won't

[7:26] let me use the iPad on it.

[7:27] >> an Android.

[7:28] >> Yeah, it has an Android phone. So yeah,

[7:30] um

[7:31] so I wasn't able to do anything I

[7:33] haven't been able to do anything for

[7:35] about 3 weeks with this thing now.

[7:39] » Okay, I'll make a motion to forward to

[7:40] purchase an Android tablet with

[7:42] protective case for $450.

[7:45] >> I will second that.

[7:47] All in favor say aye.

[7:48] >> Aye.

[7:49] >> You guys are okay with me signing that

[7:50] or do you guys want to sign it?

[7:52] >> We can sign it.

[7:52] >> Okay, cool.

[7:58] We're acting like we're here.

[7:59] >> [laughter]

[8:08] » You got the date on here. Today's date

[8:09] is 6th.

[8:10] >> That's fine.

[8:11] >> Yeah, on July 6th.

[8:12] >> Yeah, that's fine.

[8:14] Set that off to here.

[8:15] >> Is that exactly $450?

[8:17] >> Yeah.

[8:21] » I'll see she you a copy of that.

[8:22] >> All right, I can go to copy it in here

[8:24] before we leave.

[8:27] >> All right, then

[8:29] I mean Kevin, I we can get the hydrant

[8:31] flushing on the signs out front.

[8:34] We're going to start doing some of those

[8:36] we missed off last year. So,

[8:38] I mean, my goal is to train the other

[8:41] two this [snorts] week to do that so

[8:42] they can while I'm gone they can get all

[8:44] of them then. So, yeah. So, that should get that

[8:48] moving forward and then

[8:51] >> There's one other thing here.

[8:51] >> Oh, the other thing I was going to

[8:52] question was the

[8:54] uh the car show

[8:56] um

[8:58] if we can put something on the bill so

[8:59] the residents know when that's coming.

[9:03] Uh cuz we'll need to put something out

[9:05] for Main Street individually, but

[9:07] the rest of the city

[9:09] will know. But, we put I don't know if

[9:11] we put anything on the bill or not.

[9:12] >> Yeah, we can put something on the bill.

[9:15] Should be We can put something just in

[9:16] the text box.

[9:17] >> Yeah.

[9:18] >> Cuz

[9:18] >> I don't know if people look at it, but

[9:19] some people probably do. I mean, I'm

[9:21] sure people do, but

[9:22] >> Yeah.

[9:23] we'll put something in there. You

[9:24] just have to let Leah know.

[9:25] >> Yeah. I I saw her earlier today and I

[9:27] told her I'd ask you too. So, make sure

[9:29] she doesn't look surprised.

[9:30] >> Just a few days before. Just let her

[9:32] know. She has to add it in there before

[9:34] she actually submits the stuff on there.

[9:36] >> All right, yeah. Cuz I'll be reading it

[9:37] again here shortly. So

[9:40] Uh I think that's all I had.

[9:49] » I would like to call I see the removal

[9:51] of all the concrete.

[9:52] >> Yes, looks like they today they were

[9:55] they moved the hydrants installed two new hydrants in there.

[9:58] >> Oh.

[9:58] >> Um I have the stores not the stores are

[10:00] out the shop.

[10:01] >> For [snorts] those two.

[10:03] >> Um they removed they moved seven or

[10:05] sorry they moved 12 of the curb boxes

[10:07] out of the sidewalk or out of the

[10:08] driveways.

[10:09] >> Okay.

[10:10] >> So those are all done and then

[10:12] they're tearing out the front

[10:15] half block or block that front little

[10:16] half block right there was coming out

[10:18] today.

[10:19] But everything they've had to put the

[10:21] special fill in and redo the whole fill

[10:22] and all of it. So

[10:23] >> So what about access for fire place EMS?

[10:27] >> I

[10:28] Right now you can enter through the you

[10:30] can enter through the back way I do

[10:32] believe. They just now they just got

[10:33] that short half block blocked off.

[10:36] >> Off of Fort Braden Road?

[10:37] >> Yeah. The rest of it's stoned so you can

[10:39] drive you can drive through there yeah.

[10:42] As I said I didn't go back in there

[10:43] today I'm assuming they opened that up

[10:45] so people can drive through there. So

[10:48] They did it in phases that way not

[10:51] everybody was locked out.

[10:53] >> Speaking of stores adapters do you need

[10:56] wrenches or do you have wrenches to take

[10:58] those caps off?

[10:59] >> Uh I think I have I think I have two.

[11:01] >> don't have I'll get some for you.

[11:02] >> I have two.

[11:03] >> Okay. If you need more let me know.

[11:05] >> But yeah I have two I think both two of

[11:07] the trucks have them on it. So yeah.

[11:12] » Anything else?

[11:13] >> That's all I have.

[11:15] >> Kevin?

[11:17] >> I just have

[11:18] uh

[11:19] prior minutes.

[11:22] from last meeting.

[11:24] >> They look good to me.

[11:26] >> I was not here so I don't know.

[11:32] » You can still vote on them.

[11:34] >> You can still move to approve them.

[11:36] >> They look look right. Yeah.

[11:38] >> Yeah, I read through them and they're

[11:39] fine.

[11:40] I'm good with

[11:43] » I motion to accept the minutes as

[11:44] presented.

[11:45] >> I will second that.

[11:47] >> All in favor say aye.

[11:48] >> Aye.

[11:53] » After that,

[11:55] I have

[11:58] two payrolls for you guys to sign on.

[12:23] Uh and the last thing I have in there, I

[12:26] don't know

[12:28] you guys

[12:29] probably want to know about it, too, is

[12:30] the amendment for the

[12:33] uh water tower for the satellites for

[12:36] Metrolink.

[12:38] Um

[12:40] This amendment's in here

[12:42] is the one that I drafted. I sent it to

[12:45] him. He's uh taking a long time to get

[12:48] back with us on this. I mean, I've been

[12:49] talking with him for like a year and a half. And

[12:53] um

[12:54] kind of dragging his feet on it.

[12:56] Uh last meeting Joe told me he's like,

[12:59] "If we don't get something settled by

[13:01] today, then we'll enact our clause in

[13:04] the current contract right now.

[13:06] We have to give them a year's notice

[13:08] that we're

[13:09] you know, getting out of the contract."

[13:11] And so, I told him that if uh he didn't

[13:14] get back with us today

[13:16] that if we didn't have something signed

[13:17] today, that we were going to enact that would be, you know, we're going to

[13:20] enact that. So,

[13:22] um

[13:23] I didn't hear back from I I back from

[13:25] him saying, you know, "Thanks for

[13:26] bringing this back to my attention and

[13:28] he'll follow up." And I he hear back

[13:30] from him about that after that.

[13:32] So,

[13:34] um yeah, this is the current amendment

[13:36] that I'm proposing. I think it's pretty

[13:38] fair to everybody. I mean, it ups the

[13:39] rent from $200

[13:41] and just evens the the playing field a

[13:43] little bit more. The original contract

[13:45] was from 2010

[13:47] and it favored Metal Link heavily. It's

[13:49] $200. I mean, that's barely covered you

[13:51] know, I don't know what even electric

[13:53] looks like over there of their

[13:54] equipment. So,

[13:56] uh this kind of evens the playing field,

[13:58] outlines a little bit more, limits them

[14:00] to how much they can actually put up

[14:01] there. Right now, there's no limit. So,

[14:03] this actually limits how much they can

[14:04] put up there. It raises the rent and it

[14:06] gives us a 3% step up every year as

[14:09] well.

[14:11] And then also gives us a

[14:13] um

[14:15] this gives us and them a 6-month

[14:17] termination period as well. Right now,

[14:19] it's 1 year and 30 days. So, it's

[14:22] very exciting to them. So, I mean, I

[14:24] don't know if I don't know if you guys

[14:25] would pass this or they would, but it's

[14:28] worth you guys knowing as well.

[14:31] So,

[14:33] >> So, do we need to act on that tonight or

[14:35] I was going to have counsel

[14:37] >> Okay.

[14:37] >> pass it, but I just thought you guys

[14:39] would also like to know. I mean, it's on the water tower, so it's

[14:42] probably something you guys should also

[14:43] know about.

[14:45] >> How many towers are up there right now?

[14:47] >> Lots.

[14:48] >> A bunch of them.

[14:49] >> Do you think they're compensated for all

[14:50] of them?

[14:51] >> I think there's

[14:52] >> Just the two on Just that 200 a month

[14:53] all we get no matter what they put up

[14:55] there. Yeah.

[14:56] >> Yeah. Yeah, right now there's no limit.

[14:58] I mean, they could surround the whole

[14:59] thing up there and it would they'd still

[15:01] pay $200.

[15:03] So, this outlines it. This gives them, I

[15:04] think, eight sector antennas and not

[15:07] more than three

[15:09] parabolic dishes. So, this limits them

[15:11] at 11 cuz I think right now they might

[15:15] have

[15:16] 11 or eight. It's It's up there, but

[15:19] there's no limit. them. could put

[15:20] another three up there without any

[15:22] permission or anything. So,

[15:24] this will limit them to that.

[15:28] So, and this also includes um

[15:32] for construction if

[15:33] uh when when we change over to the water

[15:35] tower that they're responsible for all

[15:37] that as well, which the original

[15:39] contract does not outline anything about

[15:41] that. So, this does a lot for us. So,

[15:45] um yeah.

[15:46] Hopefully, he's on board with it, but

[15:48] >> Well, thank you for handling that.

[15:49] >> Yeah.

[15:50] >> things you just

[15:51] >> You don't think

[15:52] >> think about.

[15:52] >> Yeah, they Yeah. Well, it just went, you

[15:54] know, under the radar so long,

[15:55] especially when you don't have, you

[15:56] know, when it goes 10 years and then it

[15:59] renews for another 10 years after that.

[16:00] It's kind of like

[16:02] you don't really think about it and it

[16:03] doesn't come up all that often. So,

[16:06] yeah. That's all I have.

[16:08] >> Okay.

[16:09] Kevin, you have anything?

[16:11] >> I don't.

[16:15] » Skyler, do you have anything for us

[16:17] tonight?

[16:17] >> Nothing for me.

[16:19] >> Do you have anything for us tonight?

[16:21] >> Yeah. Let me make sure I get it all.

[16:23] >> Okay.

[16:24] >> Um

[16:25] I was told by

[16:27] other agencies to make sure that I

[16:30] reported one last time to city council

[16:33] and to the police department

[16:36] the ongoing harassment at the house

[16:39] that started when he started flashing my

[16:40] minor child, him and groups of guys in

[16:43] the alley, and now they've got cameras

[16:45] pointing towards her room,

[16:46] and it's not good enough that they have

[16:48] now surrounded our house with

[16:49] spotlights.

[16:52] That's one picture out my front window

[16:55] of the spotlights that they've now got

[16:57] pointed towards my house.

[16:59] When I talked to the other police

[17:00] officers, they said their cameras and

[17:02] their lights cannot come more than 5 ft

[17:04] into my property line or past their

[17:06] property. And since there's an alley in

[17:08] between, none of them should be on my

[17:11] property, except he's got them pointed

[17:12] only at my property constantly.

[17:15] The trespassing, I've already asked

[17:17] officers to press trespassing from my

[17:19] property. I've got multiple pictures

[17:20] just from this weekend where he's trying

[17:23] to drive his

[17:25] motorized golf cart into my fence where

[17:27] he's literally in my yard.

[17:30] The spotlights, the cameras pointed, the

[17:33] yelling at the cameras, even if I'm not

[17:35] there, he's yelling at my cameras, he's

[17:37] hurting my cameras that is insinuated at

[17:39] me.

[17:40] And the damage that they're still

[17:41] throwing fireworks over onto my property

[17:43] and now that they have burned my porch

[17:45] and burned some of my house.

[17:47] The insurance is now involved in a new

[17:50] lawyers are getting involved to the

[17:52] point that they are setting, what are

[17:53] they called, Tanzanite something bombs.

[17:56] The police were going by his house 90

[17:59] seconds later after the bombs were set,

[18:01] so I'm assuming they knew who was

[18:02] setting the bombs.

[18:04] And they just said I needed to report it

[18:06] one more time

[18:08] because then that goes towards the loss

[18:09] of immunity for the city

[18:11] and for the police.

[18:16] » This is what? I'm sorry.

[18:17] >> It goes towards the loss of immunity

[18:19] that the police and the city hold that

[18:21] I've been harassed for this many times

[18:23] that I come to this many meetings and I

[18:25] say it on camera

[18:26] this many times and yet the harassment

[18:28] is getting larger and larger to the

[18:30] point that they're setting off bombs

[18:31] that are illegal in Indiana to set off.

[18:35] >> Did you call when that happened?

[18:36] >> Absolutely not. I know what happens if I

[18:38] call. I'm terrified of calling. That's

[18:41] why

[18:42] I went to the sheriff and the Indiana

[18:44] State Police and the FBI and stuff, but

[18:46] they said I have to report it again

[18:48] before I can put it on the list of

[18:50] things that have just gone by

[18:51] unanswered.

[18:53] >> Well, we we can't do anything if if you

[18:54] don't call.

[18:55] >> But I reported it at other city city

[18:58] meetings that I've been

[19:00] harassed constantly.

[19:01] >> the fireworks and the stuff.

[19:03] >> I let them know last meeting the

[19:05] fireworks were being thrown over and

[19:06] they were on my new seating arrangement

[19:08] that I had out front, so I had to move

[19:10] it into the back and so now they're

[19:11] throwing them into the back.

[19:12] >> Okay, I was here at the last meeting and

[19:14] I don't remember that. I'm sorry.

[19:15] >> It's on camera.

[19:17] >> Okay, well I can look back at it. I

[19:18] didn't if if you said that to me and I

[19:20] missed it, I'm sorry, but

[19:23] Now

[19:23] >> Him threatening my cameras is the same

[19:24] as him threatening me is what the

[19:26] officer said.

[19:27] >> What's that?

[19:27] >> Him threatening my cameras is the same

[19:29] thing as him threatening me is what the

[19:30] officer said.

[19:32] >> All right.

[19:34] Okay.

[19:34] >> And I know it was reported by other

[19:36] people that there were two bombs set off

[19:38] in town. Everybody heard them.

[19:41] >> I'll have to go through our dispatch

[19:42] logs. Okay.

[19:44] Cuz I'm not I'm saying I'm not sure cuz

[19:46] I wasn't here, so.

[19:47] >> The police went by where they were set

[19:49] off 90 seconds later.

[19:53] » Okay.

[19:54] I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

[19:57] >> All right, I'll second that.

[19:58] >> Favor say aye.

[19:59] >> Aye.

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