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Yes.
>> Thank you, Chief. All right. Good
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evening, everyone, and thank you for uh
waiting. I'm sorry that we were late.
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Um I would like to um call to order our
main town meeting. It is June 2nd,
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Tuesday, June 2nd, 7:18 p.m.
Um I'll go ahead and uh do roll call. Um
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for Ward 1, Councilmember Mendoza isn't
here tonight because her sister is
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currently in labor. So, our prayers are
with her and her family as they welcome
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a beautiful new life into the world.
Um I'll go ahead and turn it over to
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Ward 2.
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» Al Allison Pages, Ward 2, present.
>> Ward 3?
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» Vivian Jackson, Ward 3.
>> Ward 4?
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» Councilmember Bonnie Wookie.
>> Great, thank you. And um I'll now ask
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everyone to stand for the Pledge of
Allegiance.
[1:28]
Awesome, thank you so much. Um on the
agenda for our week, we don't actually
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need to go over that because we did
before. So, we have a legislative
[1:35]
update. So, I would like to call our um
lobbyist to the podium. Thank you so
[1:41]
much for being here. Um and uh yeah,
just introduce yourself and go on with
[1:47]
your update.
>> Um and
[1:50]
Sorry, just if I can, just before you
start, I wanted to let the audience know
[1:54]
the presentation will be visible online,
uh but we won't be able to show it up
[1:58]
here, but the presentation is in the
packets that you have in your hands. And
[2:02]
that's true for the council as well.
[2:19]
» This better? Yes, thank you. Jonathan
Carpenter, Green Willow Consulting
[2:23]
Group.
Just wanted to say it was a pleasure to
[2:26]
be here as usual. As I said, Leslie
Felice is usually here. She's out on
[2:30]
vacation, and a very well-deserved
vacation.
[2:34]
We had a great session. I want to talk
about the session.
[2:38]
I'm going to start with if you have our
presentation.
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There were 3,000 bills
that were sponsored this this past
[2:46]
session, if you can imagine. And of
those 3,000, approximately 900 bills
[2:51]
were passed. So, we monitored, we always
track each bill as they come out,
[2:57]
because the devil's in the details,
right?
[2:59]
But actually,
there was a lot of movement and the fact
[3:03]
that they had a almost 1,000 pieces of
legislation to pass this year at the
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General Assembly.
The major focus areas again was the
[3:12]
budget,
public safety, education, and
[3:17]
immigration was very big this year, as
you can imagine from things happening on
[3:21]
the federal level.
Let's talk about the state budget. We've
[3:27]
This has been the
focus for the last two to three years.
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This structural deficit.
The The state continues to deal with a
[3:37]
structural deficit. While the
legislature was able to
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through not necessarily putting together
new programs, and sticking with their
[3:48]
core services, and and not making a lot
of cuts, but I like to say a maybe a
[3:54]
band-aid approach
that they were able to reduce the
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projected short fall of about 3 billion
this year down to a billion or billion
[4:02]
four,
which is very big for them to take the
[4:06]
actions that they took. However,
if you look at our presentation,
[4:12]
those that that structural deficit still
sits there,
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which means we still have to do things
in the future that would reduce this
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budget in a meaningful way because if
you look at it by 20
[4:29]
2031, 2029, we're still going to be
looking at a $4 billion deficit,
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structural deficit in the state of
Maryland.
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And what does that mean? How does that
affect our municipalities and our
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county governments? There is this
competition for increased funding,
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competition all over the place. Where
the dollars going to come from?
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The stress is going to come at the local
level.
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And so we will continue to advocate and
fight for
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our fair share,
but this budget,
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let's not sugarcoat it. We have a
problem in the state of Maryland
[5:05]
with our budget and the structural
deficit. It's a very real thing.
[5:09]
So moving ahead,
that takes us to our advocacy.
[5:16]
I am more than elated, excited
the success we had this session, but
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because of the structural deficit, you
know,
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we found out during the session,
Les and I had a meeting with General
[5:30]
Services and some other folks
that there was a a kind of a a
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a grab at funds that had already been
allocated
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and funds that were sitting out there,
authorized
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LBIs and other initiatives. And there
were re-authorizations going on where
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those funds that had been allocated, if
they were beyond that three or five-year
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window and they were still sitting
there,
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then those funds were being taken and
and the awardees were not being
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notified.
So, if you can imagine, if you have X
[6:08]
amount of dollars, whether it was a
hundred thousand or whether it was a
[6:12]
million,
and you're going to access those funds
[6:16]
and those funds were now gone
because they had reached their
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statutory, uh, limit. Uh, and so, the
legislature and legislators in those
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districts and others are able to
re-authorize those funds because they're
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sitting there and they are beyond the
deadline of when they were supposed to
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be accessing utilized.
So, uh, we got a wind of that, of
[6:38]
course, and you know, again, it was a
big thing to fight for whatever dollars
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we wanted. And so, it is extremely,
extremely, uh,
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uh, pleasing to be able to report the,
uh, efforts that we put in. And this And
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this goes to your advocacy, right? I I
always say this. We're in Annapolis,
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we're there every day, where they see
us, they know us, but if you can make it
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down to Annapolis, come on down.
Advocate for your community. Mayor, you
[7:07]
are excellent in coming down, you're
excellent in lending your voice to
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Annapolis and it makes a difference. And
in this case, uh, our advocacy work last
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summer
led to our success this past session
[7:20]
despite the structural deficit. We
worked with the delegation members. We
[7:24]
were, uh, insistent to a point to have,
uh, Senator Augustine and and the
[7:30]
delegation members visit Comer Manor.
Um, we wanted to them see the facility.
[7:36]
Um, we asked them to stay and walk the
facility. We showed them the things that
[7:39]
were going on in the in the in the, uh,
funds that were needed for some
[7:43]
improvements here at community uh, to
the center and the and town hall and we
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were successful.
Initially we we we looked at maybe a
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hundred thousand etc. And we walked away
with a commitment of secured in the in
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the budget of seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars
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for Colmar Manor.
That was major.
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And trust me there are communities
five times the size which that which
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that they could talk about getting a
seven hundred fifty thousand dollar
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commitment from the state and getting
passed in the budget. So you are to be
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commended for your work mayor and
council and your assistant in working
[8:22]
with your delegation and saying we
really need this.
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So it makes a difference what we do in
the interim
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for the pending session. So I'm proud to
say that and again congratulations to
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you for your hard work in bringing those
funds and securing those funds
[8:39]
for the town hall. I'll talk a little
bit about some of the and you have our
[8:45]
presentation
some of the legislation that we were
[8:48]
able to fight for and advance.
There was a bill
[8:52]
that was very important talk Senate Bill
1. Again this goes to the
[8:59]
immigration things on the federal level
and so in the state of Maryland Senate
[9:03]
Bill 1 was about the face coverings for
law enforcement the prohibition of face
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coverings so folks could know who you
were dealing with in terms of law
[9:13]
enforcement and that bill was passed
again
[9:18]
through heavy advocacy throughout the
state and again in this community.
[9:22]
Senate Bill 1 passed requiring that law
enforcement not have on face coverings.
[9:27]
That was a very big bill this year. Um
the beverage container recycling refund
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program
Uh, that bill did not
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However, it was about very highly
debated throughout the municipalities
[9:42]
and a lot of work, but the industry took
notice.
[9:46]
And so, something we will expect to come
back again next year.
[9:52]
Something we will look at.
Um,
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HB 1178.
Um, this is the municipal annexation
[10:02]
bill, annexation bill.
The importance of this legislation. This
[10:05]
bill has been brought forth
for the last, I would say, 3 years.
[10:11]
So, the legislators who brought this
forward was very
[10:14]
persistent and insistent. The original
legislation would have required another
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um
If you wanted to annex as a
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municipality, you would have to get
permission.
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A new process, a new step in annexation.
You would have had to get permission
[10:32]
from the legislators
that were affected within those
[10:35]
annexation properties. Those you would
have to get permission from the
[10:39]
legislators to even
annex the properties.
[10:44]
And so, again, because of your advocacy
and fighting back and saying we already
[10:51]
have enough of steps we have to go
through for annexation. Why should we
[10:56]
have to go to the General Assembly, two
specific legislators, and get
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permission?
Again, it takes away from your local
[11:03]
autonomy and things that you already
have to do, the hoops you have to jump
[11:06]
through in order to annex. And so, we
were able to modify that legislation and
[11:13]
it becomes now it became a notification
process and not a permission process.
[11:19]
Very big deal
that we were able to get that
[11:21]
legislation
in terms of a notification and not
[11:27]
permission. So, if you want to annex,
you must notify the legislators in that
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district and not get permission. That
was a very big win.
[11:37]
Again, we brought this to the attention
of organizations like MML and others
[11:43]
and we stood we stood strong. So again,
thank you again for the work that you've
[11:47]
done and able to put that legislation
and make it notification and not
[11:52]
permission. Very big.
There are some new requirements
[11:57]
Senate Bill 848
municipal election reporting
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requirements.
There will be certain things and we'll
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we'll bring this forward a new report.
There are specific things that you must
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notify now the Board of Education what
are your
[12:14]
what are your requirements for elections
for candidates? This is something that's
[12:18]
being required. It did pass. So we want
to keep the Board of Education in the
[12:24]
state.
In other words, they want to know what
[12:27]
are your requirements.
Not anybody should be able to just run
[12:31]
for office and what are the requirements
to run for office. And so we want to
[12:35]
keep an eye on that moving forward and
make sure you're abreast to the new
[12:39]
rules and notification for municipal
elections and your requirements for
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those electors, okay? For yourselves.
So that's another piece of legislation
[12:50]
that passed.
This this bill was big. This was a
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the administration has
had a really big emphasis on
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uh
their zoning laws and being able to
[13:06]
bring fair housing and equitable housing
to the state. There was a bill that's
[13:11]
called the Starter and Still Silver
Homes Act
[13:15]
Senate Bill 36 and HB 239.
This bill would have
[13:21]
and again, this was a governor's
priority.
[13:26]
So this bill had a lot of behind it. It
was sponsored by the president of the
[13:30]
Senate and the House Speaker.
So, you know it's a very important bill
[13:34]
and it was very important to the
governor.
[13:36]
However,
once you again, I always say the devil's
[13:40]
in the details and as we started to look
at the legislation, it would have taken
[13:45]
away a what we consider a lot of local
autonomy and your own development,
[13:51]
especially on the county level. And so,
there was a lot of pushback. In fact,
[13:56]
the initial bill after debate in the
committee, the bill had over 36
[14:01]
amendments to one piece of legislation.
And for that reason, the bill, I would
[14:06]
imagine, did not pass. It was not
successful.
[14:11]
Um we expected to come back, but they
took notice of what are the concerns of
[14:16]
the local municipalities in the county,
okay? But it was a very big bill and the
[14:20]
way that the bill was
initially entered and they tried to pass
[14:25]
it, it just took away a lot of local
autonomy in terms of zoning and putting
[14:30]
together your comprehensive plans and
what you put in place. So, we were able
[14:34]
to fight to repeal that bill so that it
did not pass.
[14:39]
Um one of the
one of the following bills I'd like to
[14:43]
talk about is the speed monitoring
systems bill.
[14:47]
Um
Uh there was a bill put in this year
[14:51]
that would have allowed municipalities
to put speed cameras in corridors where
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they're 35 mph
and below and you would be able to put
[15:04]
this cameras up without permission from
the state.
[15:10]
This was a very good bill. Um
The bill did not pass because of just
[15:18]
more or less it got caught behind other
pieces of legislation because there was
[15:22]
a major push for this legislation um
instead of keep going back and getting
[15:27]
permission from the state when we know
in fact we want to make our town safer
[15:32]
and that why wouldn't we be able to put
a camera uh in a congested municipality
[15:37]
wants to put a camera in a place and
this bill will allow you to do that. So
[15:41]
we expect that bill to come back next
year. Um it would be again a lot of the
[15:45]
municipalities in MML were very
supportive of this legislation and
[15:49]
something that has been pushed and we
expect it to come back next year and so
[15:53]
we will keep a eye out and keep you
abreast to when that legislation drops
[15:58]
uh at the beginning of session. Okay.
Um that's most of what I wanted to talk
[16:03]
about in terms cuz I don't want to bore
you again. Um
[16:06]
I always emphasize
the best thing that we do as a
[16:10]
organization is communicate,
communicate, communicate. So I hope that
[16:14]
you read at least browse through our
weekly updates, right? And our bill
[16:19]
trackers because we just want you to
know what's going on. And if you ever
[16:23]
have a question, you ever see something
or if you see something that's not a
[16:27]
part of it
just reach out to Leslie or I and we
[16:30]
will gladly work with you and find out
what the answers are or keep you abreast
[16:34]
of pieces of legislation. And again that
could be personal. Just let us know. Uh
[16:39]
the most important thing we could do and
what we're hired to do is represent you
[16:42]
and bring that information and make sure
you're educated what's going on in
[16:46]
Annapolis.
So I'll take uh any questions at this
[16:49]
time.
>> Well, Mr. Carpenter, I just want to say
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your updates are appreciated.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
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» I I wanted to reiterate that point by
saying expressly when we were in
[17:00]
communication with Leslie about the
potential for uh the the bond bill that
[17:06]
helped support the town hall. Um she was
very communicative, very helpful and we
[17:10]
were in the loop and engaged on that
thanks to her. Um so thanks for to you
[17:15]
and your firm for that.
>> Excellent. Thank you.
[17:18]
» Yeah, and I obviously want to say that
it's just it's really been a pleasure
[17:21]
working with you guys for these past 4
years. Look forward to continuing
[17:26]
our relationship and we really
appreciate Leslie. Appreciate you.
[17:40]
» Thank you, Mayor. Thank you.
[17:48]
Thank you.
[17:51]
» All right, next item on the agenda is
our consent agenda which include
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Oh, because it was facing well,
whatever.
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Cuz it's kind of still doing the
feedbacks thing.
[18:06]
Okay.
The consent agenda includes approval of
[18:10]
the minutes from May 19th and the
council meeting sorry, the council
[18:14]
meeting for May 19th and the April 7th
work session.
[18:18]
Department operation reports, town
administrator and public works reports.
[18:23]
Treasurer's report is not in in this
packet because it is too early in the
[18:27]
month. And then we have the public
safety code compliance.
[18:32]
Is there anything that anybody wants to
pull out
[18:34]
from any of those from from the consent
agenda that they have questions on?
[18:39]
Oh, yes.
>> And just a reminder to the council. So
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in your packets you have both
on the May 19th meeting that was both
[18:49]
the public forum for the budget hearing
as well as the regular council meeting.
[18:54]
So both of those are in there along with
the work session and those are all part
[18:59]
of what you would hopefully be approving
tonight.
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» Okay.
[19:20]
» Does anybody want to pull anything out?
Have any questions on anything?
[19:33]
The treasurer's report is not in the
packet because it's too soon too early
[19:36]
in the month for that.
All right. So, if there are no questions
[19:41]
or anything that wants to be pulled, I'd
like to request a motion to approve the
[19:45]
consent agenda.
[19:52]
» Council member Fanny,
make the motion to approve the consent
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agenda.
[20:06]
» To approve May the 19th and April the
7th?
[20:10]
So, I was not here. Yeah, I'm a council
Yeah, so I won't be approving April the
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7th.
[20:18]
» Well, she gives me the motion, so we
need a second.
[20:20]
» Okay.
>> So, is there is there a
[20:22]
» Second.
[20:25]
» Allison Pages were two I'll second the
motion.
[20:29]
» Okay, and then the discussion is that
you're not going to approve the April
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because you weren't here.
>> Right.
[20:34]
» Okay.
Um any other comments? Any other
[20:37]
discussion items?
>> Um just on um May the 19th.
[20:42]
Um
where the presentation was uh the
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delegates came to give a presentation to
the mayor her re-election. Um I also got
[20:51]
a presentation.
[20:55]
» Thank you. I will make that amendment to
the minutes.
[20:58]
» Um
that was that was the only comment I
[21:01]
had.
>> All right. Thank you.
[21:04]
Um Great. If there are no um,
discussion items, uh uh, are there any,
[21:10]
I'll take a vote, any nays, abstentions?
[21:15]
Okay.
Um, all in favor say I. I. Thank you.
[21:20]
All right, next item on the agenda are
the mayor's report and council member
[21:24]
reporting concerns. We don't have the
screen up and running and I don't have
[21:29]
everyone's, uh, report, which is fine
because I was going to go over how
[21:34]
council rules during our retreat. Um,
I did get yours, but we we can't really
[21:42]
Yeah. Um, the only thing that I have in
regards to the mayor's report was, uh,
[21:48]
we attended a breakfast with, um, our
county councilperson,
[21:55]
uh, Sheila Stafford Adams. Uh, she had a
meeting at this really awesome bakery
[22:00]
that's not far from us and she brought
up some very interesting discussion
[22:05]
items. Uh, some of them really were, um,
were regarding data and how data is
[22:11]
being used to, uh,
show the viability of, um,
[22:17]
economic development in our community
simply by showing how many people are
[22:21]
coming into our community, but we don't
necessarily have the, what, you know,
[22:25]
storefronts or those points of interest
for them to spend money. Uh, so that's
[22:29]
something that she's looking into.
Um, I'm not really sure, uh, I know that
[22:34]
she they just opened up a food pantry in
Fairmont Heights
[22:38]
through an organization called Gooder,
um, and it's at the Fairmont Heights
[22:41]
library. It looks absolutely beautiful
and it's very exciting.
[22:46]
Um, and then other than that, um,
we are getting ready for the summer
[22:51]
conference, uh, through MML,
uh, PGCMA. I'll be the incoming
[22:56]
president of PGCMA and I'm looking
forward to that. Um, and just to
[23:00]
expanding training opportunities for
municipalities in Prince George's
[23:04]
County. And, um, I think that's, uh, oh,
and we have Marilyn Black Mary's who's
[23:10]
having an awesome event in Ocean City as
well.
[23:12]
And I think that's about it on my end.
Oh, uh, sorry, I did receive some
[23:16]
complaints in regards to, well, I
reported, uh, to park police, uh, some
[23:22]
drag racing that I heard in the ball
fields on Friday night. And then I know
[23:26]
that some residents had reached out, um,
through the WhatsApp groups and some
[23:31]
people called me in regards to, uh, cars
racing up and down in town and then
[23:36]
fireworks. Uh, so as I was riding my
bicycle yesterday, I think it was, I saw
[23:41]
all of the fireworks shells on the, on
the trail next to the waterfront. So,
[23:47]
um,
yeah, I'm aware and, um,
[23:51]
and I think moving forward in regards to
our town committees, which include the
[23:55]
neighborhood watch, the animal welfare
committee,
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um, our green team, I'm going to be
talking to a lot of people over the
[24:03]
summer to get those, um,
strengthened and up and running again.
[24:08]
Uh,
Ward 2?
[24:12]
» Well, Mayor, I'm happy you mentioned
Gooder. That made the news
[24:16]
and they were interviewing the people
there and it's amazing because you can
[24:21]
shop with dignity and they have a lot of
fresh vegetables. I hope we could look
[24:25]
into that.
Okay.
[24:27]
So, first of all, I want to say thank
you for letting me have the opportunity
[24:31]
to go to MML,
the Maryland Municipal League, and guess
[24:36]
what? This summer at Ocean City, I will
be taking the
[24:40]
last class before I can graduate.
But, that doesn't mean I will, I will
[24:45]
stop taking classes. There's so much to
learn
[24:48]
if you really want to be, um, try to be
the best you can at council.
[24:52]
I do appreciate that.
Um,
[24:57]
oh,
two upcoming events. Steak night at the
[25:02]
American Legion. It's what? $25? They
have the best steaks ever. And there's a
[25:07]
community job fair.
And um it's Wednesday, June 17th, from
[25:12]
10:00 a.m. to noon at the Second Baptist
Church of District Heights. So, it's not
[25:16]
far away. The address is 5501 Silver
Hill Road in District Heights.
[25:23]
And it's for people not only looking to
jump-start their careers, but also if
[25:28]
you want to transition to a new field.
And then I have one last thing to ask.
[25:33]
Please, please,
if you would like to receive text
[25:37]
updates, please send me your name
and phone number.
[25:41]
Because I only have six people, six
residents of Ward 2 that let me have
[25:45]
their email. And it'd be much easier
because I'm getting too old to go
[25:49]
door-to-door in 95° heat.
You have my email address as
[25:55]
A.Pages@ColmarManor.org.
And once again, my phone number is 301
[26:01]
461
9122.
[26:05]
And have a great summer.
[26:08]
» Thank you. Ward 3?
>> Good evening. I apologize. I had my mic
[26:13]
on. I was wondering what that sound was,
but it was coming from me.
[26:17]
Um good evening. I'm Council Member
Jackson. I just want to say June is
[26:21]
Pride Month. I want to say happy Pride
Month.
[26:23]
Um love is love. Um
I am glad to be back in this seat. This
[26:28]
is my second time being back this um on
the council seat. Um if you don't know,
[26:33]
previously I served 10 years on this at
the same seat, but I'm back. Um
[26:38]
just for my ward, I just want to
um the residents to be mindful.
[26:42]
This is the time of year that people are
doing cookouts, graduations, and
[26:45]
parties. Just be mindful of your
neighbors. Let them know you're having a
[26:49]
party.
Um invite them.
[26:53]
Um,
just let them know so they're they're
[26:55]
aware that you're having a parties and
also abide by the rules as far as with
[27:00]
the music. Um, also if you can tell your
residents to really abide by the rules
[27:05]
of parking,
um, that would be greatly appreciated.
[27:09]
Thank you.
[27:12]
That's it. That's it for me.
[27:15]
» Thank you, Councilmember Ward 4.
>> Councilmember Fanny, um, I just just
[27:20]
want to say, um,
uh, thank you to everyone everyone. Um,
[27:25]
I know we're going to a mail this year.
I'm going to be there this year. I
[27:29]
couldn't go last year, but like as the
council as
[27:32]
Councilmember Allison was saying,
I think I had two more class to attend
[27:37]
and also it'll be my last one.
But, you know, it's not like you going
[27:41]
to stop and learn. You have to keep go
keep going continue for that. Okay. So,
[27:47]
I just, um,
my last two activity that I did, uh,
[27:51]
last May in May,
the first one was on May 23rd. The, um,
[27:57]
I attend the, um, community coffee
in conversation with Councilmember
[28:04]
Sheila Adams, you know, and as May was
saying it was very interesting
[28:09]
everything that she was, um, talking
about. So, that's good, you know, every
[28:14]
um, it's good to attend to those, um,
activity, too.
[28:18]
Um, also I participate not participate,
but I also went to the Memorial Day,
[28:23]
which it was nice, too. Uh, I appreciate
all the, um,
[28:28]
um,
people who serve our country, the one
[28:32]
who died and the one who are continuing
there. Because like they were saying the
[28:38]
this country's
there were people who paid for this
[28:42]
country, you know, and we are in this
country and we have to recognize them.
[28:47]
So, I just want to say thank you to all
of them.
[28:50]
That's it.
[28:53]
Thank you. Go ahead, Councilmember
Peters.
[28:56]
» The job fair that I talked about, that's
June 17th. I'll leave the paper in the
[29:00]
office if you want to look at it. It has
a QR code.
[29:06]
» Thank you. And yeah, also I wanted to
thank you for saying that, Councilmember
[29:11]
Jackson. It is Pride Month, and I'm
really surprised that we haven't done
[29:15]
our pride flag raising. So, I think we
need to figure out when we're going to
[29:18]
do that.
And if you don't feel comfortable having
[29:22]
the pride flag in your photo, please
make sure to let me know, and we won't
[29:25]
place one in your photo.
But that's normally what we've done in
[29:29]
the past. We've
recognized that, and we're very proud of
[29:33]
it. The other thing that I wanted to
also
[29:37]
bring up is congratulations to all the
graduates that have graduated. We are so
[29:41]
proud of you. Continue going forward
with your studies and achieving your
[29:45]
dreams. This is a reminder, we have a
town scholarship. So, please make sure
[29:50]
to apply. As of I believe this morning
or yesterday, no one had applied. So,
[29:55]
there's money that we put aside in our
budget to help students. It's not a lot,
[30:00]
but trust me, I was a student myself.
Every little penny counts, so make sure
[30:05]
to apply. Other than that, I think that
that's also it. I'll go ahead and open
[30:09]
it up for resident comments. If you're
here, just come up to the podium, give
[30:13]
your name, the street you live on.
If you you get 3 minutes, if you're
[30:18]
online, just raise your hand, name,
street you live on.
[30:54]
» James Thomas, 42nd Avenue.
Uh I would like to know what the um
[31:00]
current status of the parking situation
now.
[31:05]
When are they going to uh start their uh
deliberations,
[31:10]
meetings, and what what not?
[31:14]
» Um
we have already um determined who is
[31:18]
going to be on the committee, and those
people were advised. We're not sure yet
[31:22]
when they're going to meet, but they
uh we're we're trying to figure out with
[31:25]
them what their availability is, and uh
we'll be scheduling that with them. As
[31:29]
soon as we have that information, we'll
make sure to share it with everyone.
[31:35]
» Thank you.
[31:41]
» Are there any other comments, anyone
online?
[31:48]
Okay.
All right. Um next item up on the agenda
[31:53]
is under action unfinished business,
approval of ethics committee bylaws.
[31:58]
Do you want to take that, Mr. Spielman?
>> Sure. Um and I'll I'll try to be brief.
[32:03]
Um
the ethics committee is required to
[32:05]
establish bylaws that govern how it will
act uh and the proce- procedures that
[32:10]
that will follow. Um these bylaws were
reviewed by our lawyer. Um he made some
[32:17]
slight modifications, which are now
included, as I understand it. Um and so
[32:22]
uh hopefully, if the council has had a
chance to review,
[32:25]
um you'll be able to approve the bylaws
uh as approved by the town's lawyer, and
[32:30]
by the ethics committee themselves.
>> Do you have any additional context you
[32:35]
want to add? Okay.
>> No, they're perfect.
[32:39]
All right.
[32:43]
» Um actually I'd like to request um
Commissioner Wagner if you could just
[32:47]
come to the podium. And then if we have
any questions at least we'll have you
[32:51]
there.
Um and then people can hear you on the
[32:54]
Zoom call as well through the mic.
Um so the question that I Thank you for
[32:59]
obvious
Thank you for all the work that you and
[33:02]
the other commissioners have put into
this.
[33:05]
Um I read over the uh bylaws and I'm
very happy to see that there is a term
[33:11]
limit which is under uh number one
officers uh letter D.
[33:17]
There is a question that I have in
regards to um
[33:22]
removing someone from the ethics uh
commission.
[33:26]
There is a let's see conflicts of
interest of commission members.
[33:34]
If an ethics commission It's uh number
six under B.
[33:44]
I wanted to actually ask um
it says that if uh if there's a conflict
[33:50]
of interest then that person would
recuse themself from all commission
[33:54]
discussions about the matter.
Um or if there is like a conflict or the
[33:57]
appearance of a conflict the member
shall state this conflict before any
[34:00]
proceeding and physically remove
themselves
[34:03]
from the room and avoid the discussion
of the matter until the commission
[34:06]
renders a decision. But I thought that
there was something else in here that
[34:09]
talked about
um
[34:11]
removing someone.
And I wanted it didn't it wasn't clear
[34:15]
to me as to who removes
that person.
[34:20]
Does that make sense?
[34:23]
» I am recalling the conflicts of
interest. I don't remember anything
[34:29]
about removing
someone.
[34:33]
» That was really the only question I had.
I thought that it that was interesting
[34:37]
and
you know,
[34:39]
obviously you all came up with these
bylaws, but it wasn't clear as to like
[34:45]
who
um
[34:54]
» I'm thinking in section one, in the
event of a vacancy or
[35:01]
» So, it's under to the mic, please.
>> I was speaking to the mic. Oh, yes,
[35:06]
sorry. Yes.
>> Were you asking about section one
[35:11]
um
C in the event of a vacancy?
[35:15]
Um
[35:27]
» No, it was under
[35:31]
six.
So, under six A it says an ethics
[35:35]
commission member who will be unable to
render a fair and impartial decision
[35:40]
based on the facts presented in a matter
due to a financial or personal conflict
[35:43]
in a case or is the subject of a
complaint before the commission shall
[35:47]
recuse themself from all commission
discussions about the matter.
[35:51]
And then under six B it says if an
ethics commission member recognizes a
[35:55]
conflict or the appearance of a
conflict, the member shall state this
[35:59]
conflict before any proceeding and
physically remove themself from the room
[36:03]
and avoid discussion of the matter until
the commission renders a decision.
[36:07]
So, um maybe when I read it I
I was confused because I'm like, okay,
[36:11]
well
this in a perfect world it would be
[36:14]
someone that would be kind of, you know,
have that type of integrity to say I'm
[36:18]
recusing myself, but in the case that
they don't
[36:21]
um like who does the commission kind of
I I I understand that it's kind of like
[36:28]
a
an entity in and of itself.
[36:31]
So,
who kind of would they
[36:35]
report to or in that situation, like how
would that be decided?
[36:39]
» Who polices us? That is a great
question.
[36:43]
So, in the event that a member of the
Ethics Commission fails to recuse
[36:48]
themselves from the matter in which they
have a conflict of interest,
[36:55]
you think we should put in something
that says that
[37:02]
we would get reported on or
that that members of the town would have
[37:07]
an opportunity to
ask us to recuse her?
[37:13]
» I think so. I mean, you could stipulate
a Councilmember Page has just said
[37:18]
council, but we're also residents, so we
don't hold any greater authority than a
[37:24]
than a resident does in this type of a
situation, I don't believe. But, I just
[37:30]
I'm wondering like
who then is the Ethics Committee
[37:33]
beholden to?
>> Who's policing us?
[37:37]
» Yes, who's policing the Ethics
Committee? Uh commission.
[37:41]
» Maybe the
>> That is a wonderful question. I would
[37:44]
love to talk to the town administrator
about that
[37:47]
and
maybe get back to you and
[37:54]
» Yeah, I it might be something that we
could take up to the lawyer and ask
[37:57]
them. Um there are
broader rules and regulations that must
[38:02]
be followed, including the town's own
code. Um you're right to point out that
[38:05]
this is a a self-enforcing mechanism and
as far within the bylaws themselves,
[38:10]
there is not a mechanism to deal with
that particular challenge. But, um one
[38:16]
could imagine that that issue being
brought up before the Ethics Committee,
[38:20]
but then
that person refusing to recuse
[38:23]
themselves about the investigation into
a conflict of interest. So, um I think
[38:27]
it might be best to consult with the
lawyer about how to handle that
[38:30]
situation. Um and it may very well be
that there is a county or state board
[38:34]
that it could be brought to as well. So,
um I think it's best if I consult on
[38:39]
that and get back to you.
>> All right. And we feel like that's
[38:43]
something that should be addressed
within our bylaws or is that something
[38:47]
that would be addressed in the town code
itself or something larger than us?
[38:52]
» I mean, it may very well be and I I I
wish that I knew the answer offhand and
[38:56]
I don't, that there is already a broader
mechanism that we can that we are
[39:01]
already um subject to that would deal
with that particular issue.
[39:06]
Um so, the council could decide to
accept these bylaws with the
[39:10]
understanding that there would be a
broader mechanism uh and we would verify
[39:15]
what that is, or the council could put
off accepting the bylaws for now.
[39:20]
Um the ethics commission doesn't meet
again until July 1st. Um so, we could
[39:25]
potentially have a brief meeting online
to review um these uh these guidelines
[39:31]
one more time before they meet. Um
and get those approved with with any
[39:37]
additions that the
is are recommended by the lawyer.
[39:41]
» Well, Allison Pages ward two, I move to
accept the bylaws as they are written
[39:47]
now with the um note that if they will
be
[39:53]
there will be a um an amendment.
>> That that's another possibility of
[39:57]
course as well is that you could amend
it later um if that was found that there
[40:02]
was a gap in what needed to be done
there. Yeah.
[40:08]
» Council member Jackson, I'll second.
>> Okay, so we'll open it up for a
[40:13]
discussion. So, we're saying that we're
going to um approve the bylaws
[40:17]
um and request that an amendment or
clarification in regards to
[40:22]
uh six
in the bylaws.
[40:28]
Is that what we all agreed to?
Okay.
[40:31]
» Well, I think that it comes down to two
things. There's either a county or state
[40:36]
law, or if there's a conflict and you
don't want to be self-reporting, then
[40:40]
you can bring it to the council.
>> There There isn't a county or state law,
[40:44]
because honestly, like even when it
comes to like the mayor, like let's say
[40:49]
I'm doing something, whatever.
I've I've seen situations in other
[40:53]
municipalities where you have an
unscrupulous mayor, and there's nothing
[40:57]
that people can do. You can't report
them to the state. You can't There isn't
[41:01]
like an ethics commission either that
you can report them to.
[41:03]
» option is council.
They just bring it to the council.
[41:06]
» Well, it depends also on the council,
right? So, I don't know. But anyways, I
[41:10]
think that that that's that's that's a
it's a good discussion.
[41:13]
» we have to look into.
>> Yeah.
[41:15]
Okay.
>> So, as I understand it, the motion is to
[41:18]
approve with the stipulation that the
town administrator will get
[41:22]
clarification from the lawyer as to
whether or not there is a mechanism
[41:25]
already in place to deal with that
potential failure to recuse.
[41:31]
Um and if not, we'll come back with a
recommendation to make an amendment to
[41:34]
the code.
>> Yeah.
[41:37]
Okay, great.
Um all in favor, say I. I. Any
[41:43]
abstentions or nays?
None. Okay.
[41:46]
» Thanks, everybody.
>> Thank you.
[41:48]
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[41:51]
» Okay. Next item on the agenda
uh
[41:56]
Oh, yes, is um unfinished business,
uh which includes
[42:03]
Oh, no, sorry, new business, which
includes a stop sign at
[42:08]
uh on 42nd Avenue at 3604.
Um do you want to go ahead and uh take
[42:15]
this, Mr. Schilling?
>> Yeah, I can introduce this briefly.
[42:18]
Thank you, Mayor. Um,
basically, if you look in your packets,
[42:23]
you can see on the map, I plotted out
all of the stop signs in the area, and
[42:27]
there is one place,
for whatever reason, that does not have
[42:31]
a stop sign, um,
which is both seems strange, uh, and
[42:35]
also potentially dangerous, because if
people are in the habit of expecting a
[42:41]
car to stop at every intersection, and
then there is one particular place where
[42:44]
a car does not have to stop, um, you
might have a pedestrian come into
[42:48]
conflict with a with a car that they
don't expect to be moving towards them.
[42:52]
So, um,
this was pointed out to us by the I
[42:56]
believe it was by the resident who lives
there. Um, I think part of the challenge
[43:00]
with putting a stop sign there is that
there is no public property on which to
[43:05]
put the stop sign in our own
right-of-way. Um, uh, but the resident
[43:10]
at that location indicated that they
would be willing to sign an agreement to
[43:13]
let the town install a stop sign on
their private property. So, the, um,
[43:18]
town council is given the authority, um,
under the, um, the charter and the code
[43:24]
to, uh,
to place stop signs in town, and so the,
[43:29]
uh, action before the council is to find
out if you think that particular
[43:34]
location should have a stop sign, uh,
and if so, then, uh, uh,
[43:39]
you could authorize me to assign, uh, to
negotiate and sign an agreement with
[43:43]
that resident, um, and then have public
works install that sign.
[43:48]
» Okay, Allison Pages were two. I move to
authorize the town administrator to
[43:52]
secure written permission from the
homeowner at 3604 42nd Ave to install a
[43:58]
stop sign on their property to create a
stoppage point going eastbound on Newark
[44:04]
Road at 42nd Avenue, and to coordinate
with public works to install the said
[44:08]
sign.
[44:11]
» Council member Council member Jackson
second that.
[44:14]
» I'll open it up for discussion. Is there
any discussion on this?
[44:17]
» Um yes. Council member Jackson.
Um what if the residents decide to move
[44:22]
to move
if someone else buys that property?
[44:27]
Are we
>> That wouldn't be a problem.
[44:33]
» What do you mean that wouldn't be a
problem?
[44:36]
If if
if someone buys that property and know
[44:39]
that that stop sign was not part of it,
it was something that was grandfathered
[44:42]
in from the previous resident, and they
decide they don't want that on their
[44:45]
property, how do we address that going
forward?
[44:48]
» Well, it's a resale, so they could put
that in the contract of sale, and then
[44:52]
that would be fine. They do that with a
lot of things, even those propane tanks.
[44:56]
I mean
Yeah, they do that with propane tanks,
[44:59]
with everything. They can do it with a
stop sign. Because it's a resale and not
[45:03]
a new build, I don't think that would be
an issue.
[45:05]
» Okay. All right. Um I just want to
>> I can certainly check into that um with
[45:10]
the lawyer. Um
I discussed it with the town clerk. He
[45:13]
felt that a signed agreement would be
sufficient. I would suspect that uh once
[45:18]
the stop sign is in place, it would then
be grandfathered in. Um but uh I could
[45:22]
further investigate that.
>> Um also, before we um before the stop
[45:27]
sign is um
at their location, will letters go out
[45:31]
or notifications for the community be
residents because
[45:35]
um a lot of people has been living here
for a long time, and they know there's
[45:37]
never been a stop sign at that location,
and I can see
[45:42]
I can see it happening.
So, I just think that's something that
[45:45]
before we even install, even having it
on the billboard, let people know,
[45:50]
Council member let your residents know a
stop sign is coming, so everybody is
[45:53]
aware that stop sign is going to be
there.
[45:56]
» Yes, uh absolutely, and and thanks for
pointing that out. That would be a very
[46:00]
important part of the process, and I've
already talked with the chief about
[46:05]
making sure that our mobile sign is
nearby indicating that a stop is ahead.
[46:10]
We could put other signage up.
We could definitely communicate that
[46:13]
very clearly to the residents and we
would before actually putting that in
[46:18]
place for sure.
>> Last last discussion, I just want to say
[46:21]
thank you to the resident at 3604 42nd
Avenue cuz clearly it had to be a
[46:27]
problem for you to allow a stop sign
going on your property. I know people
[46:31]
just really needs to slow down and
safety is first. So thank you so much.
[46:36]
That's all I have.
[46:40]
» If there is no further discussion, I'll
go ahead and request a vote. Any nays or
[46:45]
abstentions?
All in favor say I.
[46:48]
» I.
>> Thank you.
[46:52]
Uh
I know that this isn't on the agenda,
[46:55]
but I just wanted to say I get requests
for stop signs and speed bumps all the
[47:02]
time.
Uh I got one this afternoon. Uh somebody
[47:06]
wants a speed bump on Lawrence. There is
a large number of people that want more
[47:11]
speed bumps. Another group of people
that don't want any more speed bumps
[47:14]
aren't aren't happy with the current
speed bumps.
[47:17]
Um in the coming months we will have a
community um walk where we
[47:24]
all walk together and um
it's a community vision walk where we
[47:28]
talk about what we want to see in our
community. And I've been thinking about
[47:32]
this for some time. If you want a stop
sign, if you want a speed bump, if you
[47:38]
don't want a stop sign, if you don't
want a speed bump, you need to let us
[47:41]
know. Uh for the resident that called me
today, I said if you get me 10 10 people
[47:46]
that sign on to to your petition for a
stop sign and you bring it over to me,
[47:50]
we'll we'll we'll talk about it. So um
that's just to say that these are some
[47:54]
of the things that that thinking through
that we'll we'll we'll do in the next
[47:57]
coming months uh because this is our
community and so we need to hear from
[48:01]
you what you want to see in your
community. Um so I think that's it. Do
[48:05]
you have anything you want to add? No?
All right, great. So, that is it for our
[48:10]
meeting this evening. I'd like to
request a motion to adjourn.
[48:14]
» I'll make the motion as stated.
>> I'll second that.
[48:18]
» All in favor say I. I. We are adjourned.
Thank you.
[48:22]
» I will always