Town Council Meeting 08.19.2026

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[0:03] All right, everybody. I got six o'clock, so we're going to rock and roll here.
[0:10] As always, I'd like to welcome everybody who is in person and those that are
[0:14] viewing online. Uh, thank you for tuning in to your local government. I ask
[0:19] everyone that's here in the room to take a second and check your cell phone and
[0:23] silence your cell phone all the way on silent, not on vibrate or looney tunes
[0:28] music or anything else. Let's make sure we respect one another's time and each
[0:32] speaker speaking and your patience is and understanding is appreciated as
[0:37] council deliberates on various agenda items. Um there is open public comment
[0:41] at this meeting and all meetings and signups are encouraged um at the front.
[0:47] Specific public hearings are advertised and designated separately. We don't have
[0:50] any specific public hearings tonight. We do have open public comment. And we want
[0:55] to acknowledge the staff's work in preparation. Their insights are
[0:58] invaluable to each topic of town business. Uh we operate under the
[1:02] council manager form of government. And Natasha Tucker is our town manager.
[1:07] handles daily operations and department administration while our town council
[1:12] provides direction and authorizes policy in accordance with the laws of the
[1:16] commonwealth of Virginia and our town charter. While each council member has
[1:20] the ultimate responsibility to contribute and vote distinctly, the
[1:23] council does work as a body and we are duly elected to serve responsibly and
[1:28] ethically the citizens of Colonial Beach. Participation of each member
[1:32] contributes to effective leadership and collaboration is the key to productivity
[1:36] in local government. Let's engage in constructive discussion, remain open to
[1:41] different perspectives, and work together for effective resolutions. And
[1:44] finally, I just remind everybody that the meetings of the town council are
[1:48] formal proceedings and are thus recorded. And with that, we will call to
[1:52] order the August regular meeting on Wednesday, August 19th, 2026. And I've
[1:59] got six o'clock on the dot.
[2:04] Please join me for um standing for a moment of silence which will be followed
[2:09] by the pledge of allegiance.
[2:32] United States of Americ
[2:51] call of members. All members are present with the exception of Miss Lisa
[2:55] Grandstaff um who does not have cell phone service so she will not be calling
[2:59] in today. So you've got six of the seven of us up here.
[3:05] Uh there are no additions to the agenda. Is there a motion to approve the agenda?
[3:12] » Is there a second? >> Second.
[3:13] » Is there any discussion? All in favor? >> I.
[3:18] » Any opposed? On our consent agenda, we have approval
[3:23] of minutes for June and August. Is there a motion to the consent agenda?
[3:28] » So move. >> Is there a second to that?
[3:30] » Second. >> Okay. Any discussion?
[3:34] » All right. All in favor say I. >> I.
[3:37] » I. >> Any opposed? All right. And moving right
[3:43] along on council member announcements. And I'll start on your side, Mr. Wood.
[3:46] Tonight.
[3:50] Okay, let's see. Uh, first is outdoor movie night, Saturday, uh, the 29th.
[3:57] That's going to be at the community center at 8:30, starring the Black
[4:02] Panther movie, my cat Sam's favorite movie. Uh canning and food preservation
[4:08] classes are Wednesdays, September 2nd and 9th, 11:00 am to 5:00 pm. Uh coffee
[4:15] walk has a new route. Uh second Friday, September 11th uh is
[4:22] casual walking on the boardwalk starts at Love Bites and ends at Colonial Buzz.
[4:27] Uh, second Friday, sip and stroll. September 11th. Uh, community board game
[4:33] night is second Tuesday, September 14th, 6 to 8. Uh, and that's going to be at
[4:40] the community center at well. Uh, there will be no fitness classes
[4:45] um until August 25th. Uh and then regard to the planning
[4:51] commission,
[4:54] uh at the July 13th meeting, uh the commission discussed two chapters of the
[4:59] comprehensive plan. Uh the board of zoning appeals uh met last night. Uh and
[5:05] it approved variance uh to a lot setback to allow a new home to align with the
[5:10] neighboring homes. The home that it replaced was set back further. Uh there
[5:15] is a vacancy, by the way, on the BZA. So, if anyone's interested, uh, please
[5:20] apply through the town website. That's all we have today.
[5:25] » Mr. Larson. >> Hi. Good evening, everybody. I don't
[5:28] have a specific report on schools tonight. I think Dr. Ado or possibly his
[5:33] designate will will be speaking and probably updates you on the uh on the
[5:37] start of school. uh finance department just wants to
[5:40] remind everyone uh as always if you're struggling to make end speed if you're
[5:45] behind on your bills uh to the town tax bills or otherwise stop in the office
[5:51] and have a conversation always better to do that with any creditor by the way
[5:55] credit card company mortgage owner landlord uh better to do that than than
[6:00] be silent but anyway come see them and they will work out some arrangement to
[6:04] help you get through and that's it for me
[6:07] » thank you Mr. Williams.
[6:12] » Okay. Good evening everybody. Just a few announcements from the police
[6:16] department. Uh the Colona Beach Police Explorers is an organization of young
[6:22] people from our community ages 14 to 21 who are interested in learning about
[6:27] police work. Explorers receive instruction on police practices and
[6:31] procedures and are eligible to accompany officers during their duties. Through
[6:37] this scouting sponsored program, explorers learn the value of community
[6:42] service and develop their leadership skills. Our explorers will be having a
[6:47] meeting on Friday, August 28th at 5:00 p.m. in the community room at the police
[6:52] department. We [clears throat] welcome all ages eligible young people to come
[6:56] to the meeting and learn more about what exploring law enforcement can do for
[7:01] them. Um, and also just a reminder, the next neighborhood watch meeting will be
[7:06] held on September 24th at 6 PM in the community room at the police department.
[7:11] Um, and finally, the Colon Bleach Police Department will be hosting our National
[7:16] Night Out event on Tuesday, October 13th from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. on the town
[7:22] hill. Please save the date and join us for the outstanding community event.
[7:25] Hope to see you all there. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Aford.
[7:33] » Um, good evening everybody. Um, I just have a couple things from the community
[7:37] foundation. Um, so on September 9th at 6 p.m. at the elementary school, the
[7:44] community foundation will be holding um hosting the candidates for town council
[7:49] for the candidate forum. Um all four candidates will have um a chance to
[7:55] speak and if you have any questions uh you can send them to info@
[8:00] communityfoundation.org. And then on September 19th at 10:00 a.m.
[8:04] to 12:00 p.m. at the community center. They will be hosting a Colonial Beach
[8:09] meetup with guest speaker Dan Bender and partner with uh PB Mars. Um, and they
[8:17] will be talking about strategies to keep uh more of your money in retirement and
[8:22] answer any questions. And then on September 26th from 10:00 a.m. to 1 p.m.
[8:27] the foundation will be having a shredded truck at the high school parking lot um
[8:32] for free shredding. So if you have anything that would need to be shredded,
[8:35] bring it on down. Um, and that's all I have.
[8:40] » Mr. Allison. >> Good evening, everybody. Um, so I have
[8:44] the public works uh department. Um, since I was here last time, we're going
[8:48] to do a couple weeks kind of combined here. And I would like to say it wasn't
[8:53] as fancy as everybody thought it was being in San Diego. I was in a a lab for
[9:00] 10 half hours a day that had no windows. So, sorry I missed last time, but it
[9:05] wasn't that great in San Diego either. >> Um,
[9:08] » we had a good time here, so I don't know why you say that.
[9:13] Anyways, uh starting off with infrastructure
[9:16] utilities, uh the water leaks, they had three repaired. Uh sewer backups, one
[9:20] was cleared. They repaired two manholes near Wilkerson Seafood to address some
[9:26] ini from the river. Inspected four manholes for potential rehab.
[9:31] Investigated multiple reports of water leaks throughout town. Assisted with
[9:35] cleaning ditches and culverts uh following significant rainfall. Um now
[9:41] moving on to the wastewater treatment plant. They continue daily operations,
[9:44] maintenance and operational support. Uh continue cleaning and maintain the
[9:50] nitrification tanks. Say that twice. Uh utilize rental uh equipment to support
[9:57] tank cleaning and maintenance. Restore the town's permanent sludge press to
[10:01] service. Clean the grit pit. Replace the reuse pump. and continue
[10:08] general grounds and site maintenance at the wastewater treatment plants. Uh for
[10:13] streets and storm water, they installed stop signs at both ends of the alleyway
[10:17] between Santa Maria Avenue and Locust Avenue. Continue traffic sign repairs
[10:23] and replacement throughout town. Clean storm debris from the roadways following
[10:28] severe weather. cleaned the alleyway between Santa Maria Avenue and Locust
[10:34] Avenue from Wakefield to Route 205. Extended drainage pipe near the beach
[10:39] swings to improve drainage. Repaired the radar speed display sign
[10:45] near the school, which people are still speeding.
[10:50] Um clean debris from ditches and storm water uh infiltr infrastructure. Uh
[10:57] moving on to buildings and grounds. uh continued park cleanup and
[11:00] beautifification throughout town, continued the grass cutting operations,
[11:05] completed uh routine building and facility maintenance, uh installed
[11:10] fencing at the entrance uh to Eleanor Park. Looks great, by the way. Um
[11:15] installed new banners along the boardwalk and continued maintenance of
[11:20] town grounds and public spaces. That's all I have for tonight. Thank
[11:25] you, >> Heather. This thing beeped up here and
[11:29] I'm not sure what's going on with it.
[11:33] » Yeah, it did. And then it stopped. So, I just want to make sure I fix that
[11:37] logistically.
[11:42] Right. >> I didn't touch it.
[12:00] Okay. All right. Hopefully, we get that worked out. Um, all right. I just have a
[12:06] few things. Um, first, I'm going to give uh Lisa's report on her behalf since um
[12:10] she can't be here tonight for the EDC. The downtown Columbia Beach Economic
[12:14] Vitality Committee met on August 11th as a working session focused on creating
[12:19] common understanding among its members of the purpose, goals, and objectives of
[12:24] the body as they specifically pertain to the Colonial Beach community. As a Main
[12:28] Street program, DCB is committed to preserving the past, charting the future
[12:32] for Colonial Beach. The Economic Vitality Committee is at the core of
[12:36] this commitment. As such, the committee's work focuses on growing a
[12:39] diverse economic base in Colonial Beach by taking a proactive collaborative
[12:43] approach to building community, supporting existing businesses and
[12:47] nonprofits, and encouraging new invest investment. Specific action steps in a
[12:52] work plan will be identified at the September 8th meeting.
[12:56] Uh, also I just want to say we were back to school and so I wasn't able to attend
[13:01] the board of supervisors meeting. It was also the first day of school back. um
[13:05] very exciting for the kids and we um have a little bit of a gap in the
[13:11] community right now. We have Boy Scouts and we have Girl Scouts. Uh but the
[13:15] feeder group to the Boy Scouts, the Cub Scouts, has been inactive for some time
[13:19] and so there's some interest in restarting Cub Scouts in uh Clinton
[13:24] Beach. If you have any interest in getting involved, uh send me an email or
[13:29] contact me and I'll get you with the people that are working on that. uh also
[13:34] attended the artwalk sip and stroll, but then the weather got dicey. Um but there
[13:40] was a really cool activity. The peddlers market can um is participating in the
[13:44] art walk nights and they have a make your own slime with the kids activity
[13:49] out there. And um just wanted to highlight that uh fun um part of of that
[13:56] activity that's happening in Clon Beach. Um, other than that, we got Comrell next
[14:01] week, next Wednesday, and King George is hosting.
[14:05] All right, that's all I have. Town manager update. Natasha, I will pass you
[14:10] the mic. Good evening, Madame Mayor, council
[14:15] members, those in the audience, and those listening to us online. My town
[14:20] manager report will consist of a sewer plant update from Inboden Environmental
[14:25] Services from Mr. John Simmons followed by uh the ARPA wastewater treatment
[14:31] plant um updates that I would provide. Uh so we will go ahead and start with
[14:35] John and his emboden updates. Uh good afternoon everyone. So let's
[14:42] start on page two, please. Um it was a bit of an active month at
[14:47] the wastewater treatment plant. You know, we all had some pretty significant
[14:50] rain events and you can really see on the graph there every day that that
[14:54] occurred and you know, we're still dealing with a good bit of eye. We we
[14:59] have seen that number reduced. It doesn't quite get it doesn't get so much
[15:04] flow so fast over there like it was. But, you know, it it one of these things
[15:09] that c that really makes it worse is when the ground is saturated versus when
[15:13] it's dry. When the ground's dry, the rain obviously gets absorbed by the
[15:17] ground and it doesn't come to the plant. But once you have that first couple days
[15:21] of rain, then everything got saturated. You could see the spike after that. So,
[15:25] you know, as the ground saturated, that means more is coming to the plant. Um
[15:29] the next graph there, you can see that we have been working on the flow meters
[15:33] there and that's why you see that big increase here for July versus, you know,
[15:38] April through June. And that's part of the the upgrades and repairs being made
[15:42] at the plant is all of the flow meters. Uh next page please.
[15:47] Ultimately affluent quality wasn't affected much. You know we had good
[15:52] ammonia TSS all of our nutrients and things look good. Where we had the issue
[15:57] this month was was the fecal caulifform and interero. You know when that flow
[16:01] gets up as high as it does it doesn't have the contact time and the UV
[16:05] disinfection system. And that's where those elevator results come from. And
[16:09] you know, one of the repairs is to replace that UV system over there. And
[16:13] that's obviously going to help with that moving forward as well. Um, you know, we
[16:18] completed the the sludge removal and you can see the numbers here for for July.
[16:25] You know, like for instance, at the beginning of the month, you can see an
[16:27] eight on the nitrates. You know, those numbers have been cut in half since we
[16:31] removed the solids and can change some of the processes over there. So the
[16:35] numbers for August are going to look much better. I know that's one thing
[16:38] that's a major concern with you all is uh those nutrient removal. Um the
[16:44] operational notes, you know, Natasha will get more into that because this
[16:49] could be part of her ARPA update, but it's really just, you know, we did
[16:54] finish the the sludge processing. That equipment's been removed, sent back to
[16:58] the vendor. Um, you know, we've had some electrical issues over there related,
[17:03] some related to the storm, some not, but it's really just the kind of the same
[17:07] old same old with us when we have these bad storm events. We got lucky for
[17:11] several months, had a dry spell. That's bad for the water table, but it's good
[17:15] for the wastewater plant. Um, but that really concludes my update. Does anybody
[17:19] have any questions? >> Mr. Williams?
[17:24] » Um, yeah, just a couple of follow-up questions from prior meetings. Um any
[17:28] updates on the uh the fat oil grease the fog um ordinance
[17:36] that we were considering or >> I'm not sure where that really stands
[17:39] right now with um with Natasha and pal. I know that that's something that's been
[17:43] discussed and I think it's just a matter of finalizing you know how that's going
[17:47] to look ordinance-wise or whatever the next steps would be with that.
[17:52] » Okay. And also kind of piggy back off of that, the the issue we're having with
[17:57] inflow and infiltration um with people leaving their caps off of their
[18:01] cleanouts, stuff like that. >> I know we had talked about possibly
[18:04] addressing that at some point with some kind of uh policy or
[18:08] » I think that's something that you'll also see soon. You know, it's definitely
[18:11] something we've all discussed and have been working on that. It um and I think
[18:15] that's where most of the reduction that we're noticing is coming from is where,
[18:19] you know, Chris and his team are fixing the cleanouts on the town property. And
[18:23] I think hopefully some of the citizens have been listening. They're starting to
[18:26] fix some of their issues now that they're aware of what causes that.
[18:29] » You know, we've got a significant amount of camera work done. And we haven't
[18:34] found any real huge problems, but most of the numbered streets. Everything is
[18:39] pretty much decent shape over there. You know, we did find some significant
[18:43] problems, you know, this week that we need to look into and see what next
[18:47] steps are, but um we've identified a lot of the major areas that would then be on
[18:53] the town's responsibility, but a lot of it still remains those cleanouts on on
[18:58] the citizens properties. So, as soon as we can get that resolved, it'll
[19:01] definitely improve it. Okay. Thank you. >> Yes, sir.
[19:06] » Any other questions? >> Okay.
[19:18] So, we um have received ARPA grant funding and we have put these funds to
[19:26] um such great use as you'll see as I go over um the projects that we've been
[19:31] working on this evening. Uh these projects represent roughly $3.7 million
[19:40] that the town has invested in 23 projects and these projects are designed
[19:45] to strengthen and modernize our wastewater system. The work is focused
[19:51] on three critical areas of our wastewater system. The pump stations,
[19:56] the collection system, and the wastewater treatment plant itself. Next
[20:00] slide.
[20:04] So, this first slide represents the projects um for the wastewater uh pump
[20:09] stations. We've invested approximately $429,000
[20:16] in improvements to three critical wastewater pump stations. New emergency
[20:22] gener generators have been purchased for the Third Street, RTU, and Horton Street
[20:28] pump stations. Once these are installed, the generators will provide backup power
[20:34] during outages and other emergencies, which will help keep waste water moving
[20:39] through the system when electrical services disrupted. The Third Street
[20:44] pump station is also receiving additional improvements. A new roof has
[20:49] been installed, exterior structural supports have been completed, and the
[20:53] building will receive additional exterior improvements.
[20:57] These investments are about reliability and resiliency.
[21:02] Pump stations are critical links between the collection system and the treatment
[21:07] plant. Thus, they maintain their operation during an emergency, which
[21:12] helps protect the entire wastewater system.
[21:18] This slide represents uh the projects for our collection system.
[21:23] Approximately $992,000 is being invested in the town's
[21:28] wastewater collection system. This is a network of sewer lines and related
[21:33] infrastructure that carries wastewater to the treatment plant. One of the
[21:38] largest completed projects is the replacement of the Six Street sewer
[21:43] line. And that project costs $611,000. But replacing infrastructure is only
[21:51] part of the story. I want to highlight that we're conducting camera
[21:56] inspections, smoke testing throughout the system to identify damaged pipes,
[22:01] leaks, improper connections, and areas where storm water and groundwater may be
[22:07] entering the system. Once the problems are identified, the ARPA funding helps
[22:12] us address these problems. The town has lined manholes, completed targeted
[22:18] repairs, and installed 27 rainuards with additional rain guards and repairs
[22:25] planned. Reducing the amount of unnecessary water entering the sewer
[22:30] system means that less water has to be pumped and treated at the wastewater
[22:35] treatment plant. These improvements also extend the useful life of our
[22:40] infrastructure and allow the town to better target future investments.
[22:46] Much of this work happens underground and they're not visible to our
[22:50] residents, but it is an important part of building a stronger and more reliable
[22:55] wastewater system. And lastly, our wastewater treatment
[23:01] plant itself. The largest portion of the town's ARPA
[23:07] grant funding uh goes towards the wastewater treatment plant.
[23:11] Approximately $2.35 million is dedicated to improvements at the wastewater
[23:17] treatment plant. One of the most significant completed projects involved
[23:23] removing more than 2.7 million pounds, approximately 1300 tons of accumulated
[23:30] sludge from the facility. We've also replaced and we're re
[23:36] rehabilitating critical equipment throughout the treatment plant. Two new
[23:41] influent pumps and two new effluent pumps have been ordered. Improvements
[23:46] are underway to the dnit nitrification filters and other treatment components.
[23:52] Electrical and structural assessments are helping identify and prioritize
[23:57] additional needs. The SCADA control system has been replaced, which
[24:02] modernizes the technology used to operate and monitor critical treatment
[24:06] processes. Another major milestone was the arrival
[24:11] of the town's new UV disinfection system. We've received the equipment and
[24:16] installation planning is underway. Once operational, the system will provide an
[24:22] important upgrade to the final stage of the wastewater treatment process.
[24:27] We've also completed the engineering and design for improvements to the plant's
[24:32] headworks and new grit removal equipment has been ordered.
[24:37] Together, these projects address aging infrastructure throughout the treatment
[24:42] plant rather than focusing on single pieces of equipment or process.
[24:48] When the ARPA funding ends, improvements in the plant will remain. There is still
[24:54] work to be done, but I am proud of the significant process that's already been
[24:58] made. Altogether, this comprises 23 projects, $3.77
[25:06] million of ARPA funds, and three critical parts of our wastewater system.
[25:12] This one significant investment is a true investment in the future of
[25:18] Colonial Beach. Next slide, please.
[25:25] Okay. So, this slide represents
[25:31] the funding that we've received from ARPA. Uh we've identified funding across
[25:37] the central drainage area which is completed, the INI testing, uh the
[25:43] wastewater treatment plant repairs and wastewater processing system repairs and
[25:48] upgrades. We've requested four rounds of
[25:53] reimbursements. Uh we have received the first three uh
[25:59] requests for reimbursements and the fourth request is still pending
[26:04] dispersement. Our balance of uh opera funds that
[26:09] remains is roughly 1.9 million.
[26:16] So we are well targeted to complete and use the funds within the timeline of
[26:23] November 2026. However, I want to stress that once um
[26:28] this round of ARPA funds are expended, there's still more work that needs to be
[26:35] done in the plant which is part of the consent order. So we will have to uh
[26:41] target additional sources of funding. We're in a good position to continue the
[26:48] projects because as we've received the reimbursements from the ARPA fundings,
[26:53] we can uh use those funds to continue with projects in the plant or we could
[26:58] use those funds for some other um areas as council directs.
[27:07] And lastly, mayor and council, I have some very good news to share regarding
[27:14] uh the town's WQIFF monetary assessment. DEEQ has officially waved our 2025
[27:21] assessment in full, thus eliminating the entire $235,152
[27:30] obligation. It's important to put this great
[27:34] accomplishment into context. In 2024, the town was initially facing a WQIFF
[27:41] monetary assessment of approximately $117,000.
[27:46] Through our work with DEEQ and the progress being made at the wastewater
[27:50] treatment plant, we were successful in having that assessment significantly
[27:55] reduced. This year, we have gone from receiving a reduction to receiving a
[28:01] full waiver. The town's 2025 assessment was $235,152
[28:09] and DEEQ has now waved the entire amount. That means the town will not
[28:15] have to pay any portion of that assessment.
[28:19] [applause]
[28:24] That that is a great accomplishment. And this just really demonstrates the
[28:29] progress that we're making. Over the past two years, we've continued to
[28:34] address deficiencies at the wastewater treatment plant, make significant
[28:38] infrastructure investments, strengthen our operations, and maintain consistent
[28:43] communication with DEEQ. We still have a lot of work to do, but we're clearly
[28:48] moving in the right direction. I want to recognize Embodden, our third-party
[28:54] wastewater operator, for the role that they've played in helping us get to this
[28:58] point. Their operational expertise, work at the work uh work at the treatment
[29:04] plant and assistance in addressing compliance issues have been an important
[29:10] part of the progress we've made. I also want to recognize our town staff and
[29:15] everyone who has worked behind the scenes to improve the system and our
[29:20] standing with DEEQ. This is particularly significant when
[29:25] you consider the investments we're currently making in the wastewater
[29:28] system. Every dollar that we do not spend on a monetary assessment is a
[29:34] dollar that can remain available to support the system and our taxpayers.
[29:40] In 2024, we were able to substantially reduce the assessment and in 2025, we
[29:47] eliminated it entirely. This is a significant accomplishment and
[29:53] a very positive outcome for the town and our utility customers.
[29:59] » Great job.
[30:04] I want to add one more shout out to that to also because they don't get
[30:08] recognized a lot to our finance department.
[30:11] um because it doesn't just take the work and the planning and the projects but to
[30:17] work with the EQ it's a federal funds funneled through the state that are
[30:22] audited tracked reimbursements have to include receipts and documentation and
[30:29] communication and there have to be transparency and the process with DEQ
[30:34] has not been an easy one because the staff at DEQ has changed multiple times.
[30:39] So just want to also shout out a little bit for finance uh to get some
[30:45] recognition in this long process. Yes, Mr. Wood.
[30:50] You know, if we remember where we were a little over three years ago,
[30:56] we had just dumped about a million gallons of sewage into the PTOIC. We
[31:02] were this far away from receiverhip. Uh thanks to the leadership
[31:09] of this lady here, Natasha Tucker, and the wisdom of this gentleman over here,
[31:15] we have proven that you get what you pay for. Okay? We tried to peacemeal it for
[31:21] years and years and years and years and we almost sunk because of it. So, one of
[31:28] the things that I just want to put u a little bug in everybody's ear because
[31:35] not all of us will uh be here next year, but I certainly hope that we can find
[31:42] our way to continue working with Emboden. I know that our town manager is
[31:48] going to do everything she can to keep us on the right track. And uh by the
[31:56] way, thanks for the quarter million bucks.
[32:03] Anybody else? All right. Well, that was a good update.
[32:09] Thank you. Appreciate it. And it closes out in November, so we'll get an
[32:12] finalized update in November, right? Yeah.
[32:18] Um and that will come in also to our legislative agenda discussion later. um
[32:24] today. All right. Next up is our presentations. We have a years of
[32:30] service award. Like most of our public works employees, Mr. Michael Welden is
[32:36] of the Shire kind and
[32:41] uh not here tonight to get a his public recognition. Um but he uh works
[32:49] tirelessly for the town. He does whatever he's asked. He works in the
[32:52] grounds and maintenance crew. And um as far as uh going out and having to work
[32:58] independently, get things done, clean, keep the town clean on a busy summer
[33:02] resort area, it's a big job. It's a hot job, sweaty, sometimes stormy or
[33:08] everything else in between. And he does it with care and dedication. So, we want
[33:13] to say thank you to Mr. Michael Weldon and uh recognize his valuable
[33:18] contributions over the past five years. His loyal and dedicated service have
[33:23] played an integral role in the success of the town of Columbia Beach. So, just
[33:26] a round of applause for Michael and [applause]
[33:32] and Chris, you can get this over to him with his
[33:37] pen and everything. All right. I'll give that to you after the meeting.
[33:45] Next up is West Morland County Board of Supervisors, Mr. Trivet. Welcome, Mr.
[33:50] Trivet.
[33:57] Madame Mayor, town council, good to see you. Just talk congratulations.
[34:03] That's not easy. And I'm sure that didn't it wasn't an effort only by you,
[34:06] but your whole team. And and it's not easy. It's just like when you get in
[34:11] that IRS loop and you can't get out of it. Same way with DEEQ, I can tell you.
[34:16] So, that's that's that you really need to be commended big time for that. Um,
[34:21] Rebecca Pis is our new uh parks and recck director. She worked for the YMCA
[34:26] for several years. uh we discontinued our contract in West Mullen with the
[34:30] YMCA and um and now she'll be the new parks
[34:35] and recck director and she'll reach out to all the stakeholders and she already
[34:39] is. They were having a meeting tonight actually with uh several different uh
[34:44] groups um to try to help see where we go from here when it comes to park and
[34:49] wreck. So, I'm looking forward to good things there. Um the sign should be up
[34:53] at the transfer station now saying that uh they'll accept 5 by8 trailers. Um
[34:58] somebody sent me a picture this past weekend. It hadn't been removed and they
[35:02] couldn't take their trailer in there and it should have been done. We'd asked
[35:06] Waste Management to do that several weeks ago and unfortunately it just
[35:09] didn't happen. But should have been taken care of today. So hopefully that's
[35:13] been resolved. Um, we voted on the personal property tax relief, uh, and
[35:18] approved 20% um, basically off of your vehicles. So,
[35:23] if you own a vehicle that costs $1,000, you don't owe owe anything. So, which is
[35:28] good. And, uh, but there ain't too many vehicles that are $1,000. So, um,
[35:33] anyway, is there anything that anybody has for me tonight? I'm going to be
[35:36] short and um can't Oh, one thing I do want to tell you, I was at a um a Veco
[35:42] conference last week and the governor was a guest speaker and she's put 200
[35:46] more million into the uh wastewater uh treatment plants for upgrades. And so I
[35:54] know I saw that as at the top of your agenda um uh when you do your
[35:58] legislative session, but I'm going to keep that in front of uh our our state
[36:02] senator because I see him very frequently and remind him every time I
[36:07] see him that we want that money. You know, we will use it. We won't be like a
[36:11] bordering county that got 12 million, they didn't use it. We know we got money
[36:16] here as a result of him uh getting behind us. And I think he will do that
[36:20] again and there's extra money there. So, keep that, you know, straight straight
[36:26] up there at the forefront and and hopefully we'll get several million
[36:29] again. Any questions tonight about anything?
[36:33] » Anybody? >> No. Thank you so much.
[36:36] » Thank you.
[36:41] » Dr. Ado, you're up next.
[36:53] Well, good evening, Madame Mayor, uh, council members,
[36:59] everyone present tonight. That's as short as I've ever heard Mr. Tet.
[37:04] [laughter] I'm still junk, but
[37:09] that's impressive. Uh, well, uh, on to my presentation. and uh thank you for
[37:15] allowing me to speak uh tonight uh since our last uh gathering from your last
[37:21] meeting. Uh we have uh started school. It's our second week of school and as I
[37:28] shared uh last year. Uh this year is even better. It is it is smooth. It is
[37:35] uh it is it it is nice. Uh it's my 30th year in in education and I'm celebrating
[37:42] that uh as my my 30th uh and I'm enjoying every minute of it. But we did
[37:49] uh start out with our new teachers coming in uh several weeks ago and we
[37:53] were able to introduce them to Colonia Beach uh public schools and also around
[37:58] the town in our annual golf cart and that was amazing and marvelous. The week
[38:04] after that, all of our staff uh returned uh to us and they were excited uh for
[38:11] our kids to return and we usually do some professional development and uh
[38:15] keep them a breast of all the changes that has come from Richmond that impacts
[38:19] us and that was uh wonderful. I was able to share with our staff that we are
[38:25] definitely meeting all of our goals in that strategic plan. One that I
[38:29] highlighted uh so they're aware of it is that two years ago we were able to
[38:35] retain and recruit uh all of our uh we had 88% retainment of our staff two
[38:42] years ago. So that was incredible. And this past year we had 89%.
[38:47] Uh so that tells us that we're doing something correct. Our environment, our
[38:51] culture is is great and folks are are deciding to stay here at at the beach.
[38:57] So, uh, that's one I'm I'm very excited about. Uh, but moving on, uh, the same
[39:03] week we had our ribbon cutting ceremony, and I do want to thank, uh, Madame
[39:08] Mayor, uh, town manager and and chief for, uh, showing up and, uh, uh,
[39:14] supporting the schools. I'm I'm sure the rest of you guys were there in spirit.
[39:19] If you, if you want to, uh, get a tour, please let me know. I take you through.
[39:24] It's is wonderful. uh for the outside you probably seen it's even better
[39:28] inside and I think our kids our staff are enjoying it every single day. I do
[39:35] want to give a big shout out huge shout out uh to BAM uh to the Lions Club and
[39:42] also to our PTA. Uh we had a lot of businesses support the school to get it
[39:48] started. these three organizations uh helped feed our staff while they were
[39:55] here the first week. So, we want to give a big shout out and thank you uh to all
[39:59] of them. We greatly appreciate their partnership and their support of this
[40:04] school system. And as we move along, uh one last thing,
[40:08] I'm going to be short. I do want to thank uh Mr. Trivet also. Uh thank you,
[40:13] Mr. Trivet, uh for being there, uh at the ribbon cutting. uh he has been a big
[40:18] supporter of us and we we appreciate his guidance. Sometimes I do have to call
[40:22] him to to have a a chat. Uh but uh he's always been very uh graceful and and
[40:29] wonderful uh for the school system. Uh but finally I do want to tell uh share
[40:34] with you that we are completing the uh punch list uh for the front entrance and
[40:40] the main office and that's that's where we are to take care of little things and
[40:44] we're moving straight into our phase two. As you probably remember our
[40:49] initial plan was always to build a a wait room. Uh, as of right
[40:56] now, uh, the wait room is is is in a classroom and we we want to get that
[41:01] classroom back and get it out of that classroom and get a wait room outside
[41:06] and also operational offices and maybe we're thinking about some sped uh,
[41:11] special education offices also. Uh, it will be an addition to to the high
[41:16] school. Uh, but we we are excited. Uh, this is great for all of our kids that
[41:22] are coming from elementary school that will be going to the high school for
[41:26] years to come. I'm I'm old. I probably won't see that. This is my 30th, so uh
[41:31] don't don't quote me. I I have one of my board members here and I keep telling
[41:34] them they said I better not give up on them by the end of the year. Uh VRS said
[41:39] I can I can go out and and relax after 30. Uh so I'm I'm I'm I'm enjoying this
[41:44] this last year. I'm not saying I'm leaving. It's just uh it's good to be in
[41:48] opposition. [laughter] Uh but that's all I have for you
[41:52] tonight. Uh if you have any questions for me, I'll be glad to answer those.
[42:00] I hope you don't retire this year. But thank you for letting us know [laughter]
[42:05] and being there. It's been uh the ribbon cutting was excellent. The front
[42:09] entrance is really a massive improvement. And um I'm sure it's going
[42:13] smoother because you don't have a construction crew around there right now
[42:16] as well. But um yeah, thank you.
[42:27] » All right,
[42:33] moving right along. Next is our public comment. During public comment or
[42:36] hearings, we ask that uh guidelines be followed. We do ask that you stand at
[42:40] the podium and for the record, please state your name and address. If you'd
[42:44] like to be contacted, please provide your contact information to the clerk.
[42:48] Make your comments to the council as a whole. Be brief. State your position and
[42:52] provide facts. You can provide any written uh statements or supporting
[42:56] materials to the clerk, who is Heather Oliver, and she can distribute them to
[42:59] the council and the town manager. Debate is prohibited. Follow-up on comments is
[43:04] provided by the town manager. and speak clearly as we want to hear what you have
[43:09] to say. The council will try to hear everyone who wishes to speak on a
[43:13] subject, any subject, and comments are limited to five minutes. Time cannot be
[43:18] transferred to another speaker. If you represent a group, you may wish to
[43:22] identify other members of your group who are in attendance. And after public
[43:25] comment is closed, I encourage you to stay as the council engages in dialogue
[43:29] and deliberation on uh subsequent agenda items. With that, we'll open public
[43:34] comment. First up is Johnny.
[43:39] Welcome.
[43:52] Good evening, madame mayor and council members. My name is Joanie Milward and
[43:56] I'm speaking to you tonight as president of the Virginia Osprey Foundation. I
[44:00] live at 405 Livingstone Street in Colonial Beach and I want to share with
[44:05] you the data that our organization has collected this osprey season. When this
[44:10] season began, we counted 38 active nests, meaning there were a pair of
[44:14] adult birds occupying each of those nests. Out of those 38 active nests,
[44:19] only 11 nests were successful. Those 11 nests produced 20 chicks that
[44:25] were raised and fledged or raised to fledge size. We are now down to 14
[44:32] chicks postfledge. That was caused by trauma, starvation, electrocution,
[44:38] or the fledgling just disappeared. Better than last year, yes, but still
[44:44] another disastrous year. Our reproductive rate this year is only
[44:49] 0.526 chicks per nest. To sustain a
[44:53] population, the reproduct reproductive rate must be 1.15 chicks per nest. I
[45:00] wish I had better news. The Chesapeake Bay itself is seeing far worse numbers
[45:04] well below what was happening during the DDT era. The next item I want to speak
[45:10] to is item 12A on the agenda, the 2027 legislative agenda, and propose some
[45:16] additional language specifically under the priorities of environmental
[45:21] resiliency and storm water and under economic development and tourism. And I
[45:28] have provided you with the additional language. It's in bold and uh for the
[45:34] first it would uh be under the environmental resiliency. It would come
[45:39] after the word projects and it states to include research and effective
[45:45] management of Atlantic Manhaden industrial perane reduction fishing in
[45:50] Virginia waters.
[45:54] I believe the proposed additional language to that section shows an
[45:59] understanding of the crisis Virginia and specifically Colonial Beach is facing in
[46:04] regards to its osprey. Their reproductive re their reproductivity
[46:09] rate is well below what it was during the DDT era. They are literally starving
[46:14] to death. Organizations like ours have been advocating for better management of
[46:19] Atlantic Manhaden and I believe it is time for the town to step up and do the
[46:23] same. This is a first step and I urge you to take that step. As for the
[46:29] economic development priority, the additional language it starts after
[46:35] initiatives to include ecoourism events such as the Virginia Osprey Festival.
[46:45] Our town has so much to offer and ecoourism is an important draw for
[46:49] visitors to Colonial Beach as they can enjoy the numerous hiking birding venues
[46:53] in the town and surrounding area and easy access to water recreation. And the
[47:00] Virginia Osprey Festival is a prime example. We brought in approximately
[47:04] 1500 to 2,000 attendees in April. They came from as far away as Maine just to
[47:10] attend the festival. And with that in mind, I want to thank
[47:14] everyone that came out to our documentary screening on Sunday, The
[47:18] Last Osprey. Even a small event like this attracted 80 people. They came from
[47:23] Richmond, Williamsburg, Farnum, Northern Virginia, Virginia Beach, and Baltimore,
[47:30] some of who stayed overnight and had dinner in our local restaurants. I thank
[47:34] you for your time and consideration. If you have any questions, please reach out
[47:38] to me.
[47:42] Thank you.
[47:48] » Welcome,
[47:52] Madame Mayor. Town Counselors, Nigel Long, 115 Linhaven Court. Um, I I was
[47:58] going to be very quick, but let me add to what I was going to say. Um, my
[48:02] support of what uh Joanie just presented to you. I think the menhaden issue is
[48:09] not only an issue for the osprey population in town. There are probably
[48:15] many reason a number of reasons why our population has declined but clearly over
[48:22] fishing of menhaden uh in the Chesapeake Bay um is an issue.
[48:29] Virginia is the only I believe I'm right in saying the only um state on the east
[48:35] coast that allows that sort of fishing and it impacts other elements of the
[48:41] marine community in addition to ospreys and is I think something we should care
[48:46] about. Um my suggestion on the legislative
[48:53] priorities was actually um to support something um that uh the honorable uh
[49:01] Richard Stewart is also in favor of. I just want to put on record that I agree
[49:07] with him about something. Um the uh and that is about the protection of the
[49:14] PTOAC a aquifer and the qual quality of the PTOAC river uh since it provides the
[49:20] water supply for the town of Colonial Beach. Um and I would my suggestion is
[49:27] that at the end of the environmental resiliency and storm water section
[49:33] um where it says water quality we add the words including protection of the
[49:37] PTOAC river and the PTOAC aquifer um I think over the coming years that will be
[49:45] increasingly important for this town this community um particularly if it
[49:50] grows um and we should um recog recognize and respond to that. Um, I do
[49:57] have I assume you may have read it, but I can I only have one copy with me. Give
[50:02] a copy to the town clerk. The letter that um, Mr. Stewart wrote to our
[50:08] governor in relation to the aquifer and our water supply. Now that may well have
[50:14] been written in relation to other um economic activities in the state and use
[50:20] of water but I think the fundamental points there about protecting our water
[50:23] supply that he made to the governor um at the end of July are important. If you
[50:29] haven't seen it I'll give a copy to uh uh to your secretary. Thank you.
[50:37] » Thank you.
[50:52] Is anybody else signed up?
[50:56] Would anybody else like to come up? >> Always open it up.
[51:11] noted for the record.
[51:15] Anyone else? Okay.
[51:19] All right. With that, we will close uh public comment. I'll have
[51:24] seven different times. 6:51 p.m.
[51:31] Um, and that moves us directly into the 2027 legislative agenda.
[51:39] Miss Tucker,
[51:44] Madame Mayor, Council, tonight, I'd like to begin our discussion regarding the
[51:49] town's legislative priorities for the upcoming general assembly session. Each
[51:55] year we have an opportunity to identify the issues that are most important to
[51:59] Colonial Beach and communicate these priorities to our legislative delegation
[52:04] and our partners at VML. The purpose of tonight's discussion is
[52:08] to determine where council would like the town to focus its advocacy efforts.
[52:14] I would suggest that we keep the list um relatively focused and prioritize issues
[52:19] that have a direct impact on our operations, finances, infrastructure,
[52:24] and community. Uh the items that you see uh on the
[52:29] screen and which is part of your packet. Uh they're consistent with council's
[52:35] priorities from the previous year. And you'll notice that we reduced last
[52:41] year's priorities to seven. I'd like to walk through each of the
[52:46] priorities, get council's feedback, and identify any additional in issues that
[52:53] you would like included or excluded from the list. Based on tonight's discussion,
[53:00] we'll make necessary revisions and bring the final priorities back for council's
[53:04] consideration. Ultimately, this is council's
[53:08] legislative agenda and we want to make sure it accurately reflects the issues
[53:13] uh that council believes are most important to Colonial Beach. And with
[53:18] that, I open the floor for discussion amongst council.
[53:25] All right. So, as you suggested, I think we'll take the priorities from top to
[53:30] bottom. We'll go through them one by one, see if anybody's got any questions
[53:34] and tackle it that way. So, uh, top of line is wastewater treatment plant. Um,
[53:42] funding to support critical improvements and upgrades necessary to maintain
[53:45] regulatory compliance, protect public health, and ensure long-term
[53:49] sustainability of community infrastructure.
[53:52] Uh, I will say as a um as part of the process when we're
[53:58] lobbying in Richmond or in DC, they want a sort of one sheet summary
[54:05] quick target tagline, right? Then when something is connecting and we see
[54:13] movement on legislation or funding or or something we're opposed to whatever it
[54:19] is then we provide supplemental documentation generally a a one pager
[54:26] that is paragraph formed and then also additional context like engineering
[54:31] reports or things like that. So, I don't want to take the um don't take the
[54:36] little quick blurb as in it's exclusive of we kind of purposely
[54:43] make it the verbiage to apply as broadly to the
[54:48] topic as we can. Right? So, um the only thing I would say about this top one is
[54:55] and this is kind of a question for Natasha
[54:59] wastewater treatment plant. Do we need to include also like the sewer
[55:04] infrastructure? Should that be in the title at all? It's not just the plant,
[55:08] but it's also the
[55:13] » system. That's a good suggestion, Madame Mayor. I can certainly include that.
[55:20] » Well, I'm just is open for discussion. I mean, other people what any other ideas
[55:24] you have about that. >> Yeah, I think in your thing you put
[55:27] wastewater treatment plant and wastewater
[55:30] treatment sewer or something like that. So maybe just kind of use both of those
[55:34] terms so we're not limiting ourselves just to the plant because okay obviously
[55:39] we have >> issues in the point we have issues in
[55:42] you know different areas of town that require sewer
[55:46] » and I mean we want as much money as we can
[55:50] get to fix it all. Right. >> Understood. I do have a quick question
[55:54] though since uh there are additional funds uh being made available by the
[56:00] state for wastewater treatment plants specifically.
[56:05] » Mhm. >> Um would be would we be more successful
[56:10] in accessing those funds if we were a little more targeted? I understand the
[56:15] point >> that we want to be broad, but I think we
[56:18] want to be uh tip of the spear enough to take advantage of those new funds.
[56:23] » I think those funds target sewer infrastructure though as well.
[56:27] » Okay.
[56:31] » I think they uh do as well. So um after we have concluded tonight's discussion,
[56:38] I will also follow up with our um delegates and find out particularly for
[56:47] this item the best way to um name that priority so that it's all inclusive and
[56:54] we um aren't limiting ourselves uh to the types of funding that we can
[56:58] receive. Yeah, we may want to mimic the way the state is
[57:03] um the verb. Yeah, the verb. Exactly. Like literally cut and paste from state
[57:09] language. Um Okay. So, that's I don't know there's I'm can't imagine anybody
[57:15] wants to take this item off the list. >> Okay. Yes, Mr. Williams.
[57:20] » Um just a kind of general question. Um, we've had since I've been on council,
[57:28] this be my sixth year, um, well, fifth year we've been doing these, I think
[57:35] majority of the time. Um, I know we got ARPA funds, but that was a whole
[57:39] different ballgame. Um, do we have any, um, statistics or figures on what we've
[57:46] received like legislative wise, um, since we've been doing these? Um, have
[57:53] we received any money Um any support um like big significant things that you
[57:59] can think of off >> the North Beach shoreline.
[58:03] the engineering for that top of mind. >> That was through our legislature.
[58:09] » That was through the that money is federal money from FEMA that goes
[58:14] through the state that we wrote a grant for to
[58:19] the state entity to with the Northern E Planning District Commission. Yeah,
[58:25] that's a direct legislature >> filters in community.
[58:28] » That's a good example. >> Okay. Yeah, that's a good example. Do
[58:31] you have any others? So, I don't have any others that I had
[58:37] prepared for you tonight, but I do know prior to um me being appointed town
[58:44] council, there was a significant amount that was received. Um I don't know
[58:48] whether it was through from the state, but it was a direct uh relationship with
[58:53] the legislative priorities and communicating what the town needed with
[58:59] our elected officials in Richmond. Um I don't have that exact amount but that we
[59:04] did receive those uh fundings at that time.
[59:06] » Okay. I think that was DEEQ the 5.7 if I remember off top of my head.
[59:11] » The 5.7 is DEQ but then there was ARPA funds separate from that which were
[59:18] you know divvied out throughout the state
[59:21] » and that was a direct result >> of going to Richmond and speaking with
[59:25] our partners as part of this legislative agenda.
[59:28] » Okay. And just wondering if we have any feedback on the current list that we've
[59:33] submitted from 26 >> uh from last year's list. Um no, but
[59:40] that's why we're going through with this year. Every year this comes around and
[59:44] it's an opportunity for us to receive um some kind of funding. Um,
[59:51] I do know that all localities within the Commonwealth, um, they look at their
[59:57] needs and their priorities and the funds are then addressed that way. So, with
[1:00:03] the additional funds that are now available, we really stand a really,
[1:00:08] really good chance of being one of the communities that are allocated some of
[1:00:13] those fundings. >> That's good news. Thank you.
[1:00:17] So I think we've received federal or state funds in almost every single one
[1:00:21] of of these or are currently underway in that process. So you know I think the
[1:00:26] wastewater treatment plans kind of prime and easy example but in community
[1:00:31] infrastructure the VOTE um road for Dwight Avenue extension um that is a
[1:00:37] also direct allocation from the state through our VOTE partners. So, um, when
[1:00:43] we move to community infrastructure, the next one for sidewalks, crosswalks,
[1:00:47] roadway maintenance, and other enhancements, things like the design of
[1:00:51] the first street sidewalk that we didn't get the sidewalk implemented, but the
[1:00:55] design was paid for, um, or accessing those sidewalk grants, um, or getting
[1:01:03] the zero visibility plan done. That's all part of that second uh, topic there.
[1:01:15] Does anybody know if this community infrastructure does it cover um water
[1:01:21] pipes at all? >> Water pipes.
[1:01:24] » Yeah, I know there's sewer, but like the water pipes, I've heard that they're in
[1:01:29] pretty rough shape and especially in some parts of town.
[1:01:35] I think right now if we want to add in the water infrastructure that would be a
[1:01:39] new item to add. I mean are we targeting that also separately or
[1:01:47] do we want to include that in sewer infrastructure?
[1:01:53] » Do we have any idea of what the significance I Chris would you know? Um,
[1:01:58] I mean, I've heard just I don't know if it's only sewer or if it's water and
[1:02:02] sewer, but I've heard for like example the point is in horrible shape with
[1:02:06] plumbing and worst one of the worst sections of town. I could be wrong, but
[1:02:10] I'm just wondering does the town have an idea um of the condition of the water
[1:02:16] pipes versus the sewer. Is that is as significant? because I know, you know,
[1:02:20] with DEQ stuff, we've been pretty highly focused on the wastewater treatment
[1:02:24] plant. But I'm just I want to make sure we don't skip over that when it could be
[1:02:28] just as high priority, if not worse. >> Just like our collection system for the
[1:02:32] sewer, our water system is old and outdated. It's there are sections of it
[1:02:38] coming to the end of its life. Um I was actually on a water leak last night
[1:02:42] where the water line was in horrible shape. It's probably going
[1:02:47] to have to be replaced. Uh I don't know how much of that's going to have to be
[1:02:50] replaced, but the water system is definitely worth investing in because
[1:02:55] without that, you can't live in town. So yes, we do have sections of town with
[1:03:01] bad water pipes. Some are worse than others. Some are manageable, some at
[1:03:06] some point will no longer be manageable. So I do agree that it would be
[1:03:09] worthwhile to invest in the water system. I do believe that it should be a
[1:03:13] separate item from wastewater since it is a completely different system and
[1:03:19] target them independently. I don't know what's out there for water systems, but
[1:03:24] it's something we could probably look into if that's council's desire.
[1:03:28] » That's probably So, I'm sorry. >> Oh, just one little quick follow on. Um,
[1:03:32] when you're all out there, I know you guys see everything because you're in
[1:03:35] the ground and you have a sewer or water leak and so I'm assuming you probably
[1:03:40] see both pipes same time. They're usually in a similar proximity. Are you
[1:03:45] are you seeing one's in worse shape than the other or are they pretty comparable?
[1:03:48] They're both in pretty bad shape. >> They're not necessarily adjacent to each
[1:03:55] each other. Water does not need to have the same depth as sewer. Sewer is
[1:03:59] usually deeper because it has to have gravity to get from point A to point B.
[1:04:03] Sometimes we find them both, sometimes we don't. Um,
[1:04:08] I'm not going to say they're equally as of an issue. Sewer has a
[1:04:15] longer lasting effect on its issues with the sewer pipes versus the water pipes
[1:04:19] because it has more components that it affects downstream from that issue. But
[1:04:26] again, like I said, the water lines are definitely worth investing into and need
[1:04:30] to be updated and replaced due to their age. Just like everywhere else in the
[1:04:34] United States, >> our infrastructure is aging out across
[1:04:38] this entire country and it's something that needs to be addressed.
[1:04:42] » Okay. Thank you, >> Madam.
[1:04:45] » Yes, Mr. Wood. >> Um,
[1:04:48] is that something much like we did with the sewer lines where we made what we
[1:04:53] need to do quantifiable? Right. So, in order to do testing and that sort of
[1:04:57] thing, um, is that a process that we should begin so that we can maybe put
[1:05:04] that on our next legislative agenda >> because we can't just say, well, fill
[1:05:10] fill in some pipes for us, too. We don't know how much we need.
[1:05:14] » So, that's a that's a good point, >> Mr. Wood. Um, so the reason we've been
[1:05:18] able to be successful with the wastewater treatment plant
[1:05:22] um, applications, I mean a big part of that is Senator Stewart to be honest
[1:05:27] with you, but also what he needs in order to be successful in Richmond is
[1:05:32] quantifiable data. And so we have an engineering report that lists exactly
[1:05:38] everything that needs to be done and it has prices estimated on it. And that
[1:05:43] then is validating the request, right? And when we go back and ask for I mean
[1:05:50] it's still more than $13 million I think that is still outstanding on that
[1:05:54] engineering report we haven't done. So there's still a lot to request and a lot
[1:05:58] to validate getting requested. Um so the same would be true if you want to be
[1:06:04] successful in the water aspect and water utility is that we have to build out the
[1:06:11] case. Yeah, for it to be if you really if you're really going after something,
[1:06:16] um you've got to provide that level of detail at that point. So, you can't just
[1:06:21] say we we have old pipes and we want them fixed. We got to get a little bit
[1:06:25] further into it than that. Um but like what happened with the environmental
[1:06:31] resiliency and storm water piece, which ultimately led to the North Beach
[1:06:34] Shoreline project, is we got a grant by putting that on here. We got a grant for
[1:06:39] the resiliency plan, right, which came from RAFT, which was also government
[1:06:44] funded, federal, state, government funded. So, um, that's a good example of
[1:06:50] how that process plays out. Like you put it on there maybe in a generic way, but
[1:06:55] all you're really asking for at that point is help in getting it planned and
[1:07:00] help in getting the engineering study. And then once you get that portion and
[1:07:04] you successfully complete your study, then you take the study and you go to
[1:07:08] the next level of detail with it and ask for more like implementation or a
[1:07:13] project like North Beach. Now the project is getting engineered. My next
[1:07:17] our next step on North Beach will be to ask for the money to to do it, right?
[1:07:21] So, um I think we could add the water system on here, but just kind of with
[1:07:27] the context that what we're really the reality of that is you're not going to
[1:07:31] get all new water pipes if you were successful in Richmond. You're going to
[1:07:34] get and then you're going to get a plan. Right. But not a bad idea to put it on
[1:07:40] there. I'm just talking through the process a little bit.
[1:07:43] » Yeah. I mean, I definitely get what you're all saying. So, and I agree with
[1:07:46] your comments. It does make me a little nervous that we don't really have a good
[1:07:50] assessment of the condition because that, you know, could be a problem in
[1:07:53] the future. But, um, maybe maybe this open this conversation maybe at some
[1:07:58] point if it's not a legislative priority, at least a some a study or
[1:08:02] something in the future to figure out what needs to go on with the the pipes,
[1:08:06] the water pipes. And I'm wondering what kind of money is
[1:08:10] going to be available with all this the lead and the other water quality testing
[1:08:15] that's happening out there. I think there we could see some things being
[1:08:19] pushed at the very top levels uh across the nation honestly on
[1:08:26] investigating this because most we're not abnormal in this. Most localities do
[1:08:31] not have a good idea of the age of their system or what's in the ground or where
[1:08:36] where it's at. So, um, we kind of every single locality is going to be asking
[1:08:42] the same questions. Um, so Mr. Alison, I think to your
[1:08:48] point, Mr. Williams said, does that fit under the community infrastructure piece
[1:08:52] with the sidewalks, crosswalks, roadway maintenance? I see that more like um
[1:08:58] like visible safety and the water more as an invisible
[1:09:07] So, I would I would tend to say to separate them, but that's a council
[1:09:12] decision. If you will want to combine them, you know, uh get lost.
[1:09:20] » I think that would get lost in community infrastructure. We ought to have a
[1:09:23] separate line item if we're going to do it. I know we're trying to keep this
[1:09:27] concise. We don't want 15 items on the list anymore. I get that. So, we'll have
[1:09:32] to find the balance there. Yeah, I think it should be separate. I
[1:09:36] mean, we already have some backup for community infrastructure in place. This
[1:09:41] is water. We're doing fresh. This is completely new. We need to start from
[1:09:45] the very beginning. Whereas community infrastructure, we have some plans and
[1:09:49] other stuff already in place. Okay, I'm seeing a good consensus on
[1:09:54] that. Then I'm going to keep moving forward. All right. on resiliency and
[1:10:01] storm water. And I know we've had some comments tonight, so I want to recognize
[1:10:05] that. Um uh again, we this is
[1:10:12] worded in a brief way to then allow um opportunity
[1:10:19] to get more specific post this one quick page. Right? So, this says funding for
[1:10:26] erosion control, shoreline resiliency, climate adaptation, and wildlife habitat
[1:10:31] enhancement projects, as well as storm water upgrades to reduce flooding,
[1:10:35] improve drainage, and protect water quality. I think we're hitting a lot of
[1:10:38] points on that one sentence. Um,
[1:10:44] and we have been very successful in this particular item, uh, in a lot of
[1:10:49] different avenues. um some unsuccessful but mostly I think
[1:10:54] we've got some pretty good track record on there and I know we have VIMS
[1:10:59] shoreline projects on our CIP for Monroe Bay Avenue that's eroding there and then
[1:11:05] as well as the wildlife and habitat issues that are coming up to highlight
[1:11:10] that I think when we say habitat enhancement projects or and we
[1:11:14] specifically say the word wildlife um if we want to take a stance in that
[1:11:19] legislation I think this gives us a strong point to do so if we decide to do
[1:11:25] so as a body.
[1:11:30] » So I agree. I don't want to completely gloss over the comments from
[1:11:36] uh Miss Millward on the Atlantic Minhaden,
[1:11:41] but it feels to me that maybe stuffing that in this one might not be the the
[1:11:45] most effective place. sort of like the conversation we just had about the water
[1:11:48] supply pipes and if not there then then where if you agree that it doesn't go
[1:11:54] there because it is an important topic but it's not quite the same as it's not
[1:11:59] community infrastructure at that point sorry it's I mean it's not storm you
[1:12:03] know community level you know environmental stuff it's broad ecosystem
[1:12:09] » I think we I think we can make a stance on the menhaden issue with a direct
[1:12:14] resolution to the mid-handed issue that is specific and actionable and take that
[1:12:22] on. Um, I think the priorities list, it needs to be these umbrellas that are
[1:12:28] kind of broad and generic, you know, but if we want to tackle a stance on the
[1:12:32] menhaden issue, I think we can do that regardless of this and that actually
[1:12:37] this could bolster that resolution, but we can get hard-nosed in a very formal
[1:12:43] resolution stance if that's an avenue we want to take.
[1:12:46] » I was going to say similar thing. I think that's probably a better approach.
[1:12:51] So, how do we put that on on the agenda for something to get done later? Is that
[1:12:57] that something we ask staff to look at first? We want to pull in experts.
[1:13:01] » Add Natasha to draft a resolution to it. I think we need we'd probably just bring
[1:13:06] it up at a work session and get an idea of what our point is. Okay.
[1:13:11] » Yeah.
[1:13:14] Just as a quick question in regard to the menhaden
[1:13:18] point of view, we're going to I would think have more success because what
[1:13:24] we're doing is not asking for specific funding for that. Where we're asking to
[1:13:31] do is to have legislation towards that. And where we're going to be more
[1:13:37] successful is not the local colonial beach going, "Hey, this is
[1:13:40] unacceptable." If we're able to uh get consensus among more municipalities
[1:13:49] and then put it together that way as opposed to what I don't want to do
[1:13:56] not only Joanie but to the entire situation is to do it a disservice by
[1:14:02] tucking it away somewhere where it's not going to be seen and not acted on. Does
[1:14:06] that make sense? The most similar instance I've seen of
[1:14:10] that is the 2A movement where multiple counties added in resolutions because of
[1:14:16] the push in the 2A movement. And I think that's probably a good example. I've
[1:14:22] seen coalition of strong strength in numbers
[1:14:26] um just as far as the actual process of that.
[1:14:30] » What's 2A? >> Uh the second amendment
[1:14:42] So, I would I guess my point is to leave the bullet point the same, but then if
[1:14:50] we decide to tackle that issue to make that specific.
[1:14:55] » Yeah. Maybe address other localities that are towards the Chesapeake Bay that
[1:15:00] would be influenced or >> helpful. uh we can use those as a
[1:15:06] conjoining effort to do that. >> Yeah, I actually wrote down while she
[1:15:11] was talking that um to bring this up at the mayor's institute at VML
[1:15:16] uh because I think there'll be a lot of other it's in Norfol this year and so
[1:15:20] there'll be a lot of coastal um communities at that conference. I'd
[1:15:25] like to see what their stance is and what they're doing about it and um you
[1:15:30] know how it's being brought up in their communities.
[1:15:33] That's in October, guys. By the way, the BM next BML um conference.
[1:15:40] » Nope, you can't say anything. Thank you.
[1:15:47] » All right. Um moving forward, economic development and
[1:15:51] tourism. These are um this is big for our marina way initiative is through
[1:15:57] this uh grant funds, BTC. some of the um uh things like the love sign money or um
[1:16:06] different grants for promotional things. I think
[1:16:11] we got a billboard a couple times. Um stuff like that.
[1:16:16] Uh I like the highlight on ecoourism. Um but I don't want to discount all the
[1:16:22] other tourism initiatives by only hiding
[1:16:26] highlighting ecoourism. I'm just kind of opening that discussion
[1:16:31] up.
[1:16:35] » Yeah, I thought when I read it that if we said anything, we'd just just say,
[1:16:39] you know, tourism, you know, including ecoourism.
[1:16:44] And that's as far, you know, for the same reason. We don't want to water down
[1:16:48] the rest of the message with with a single um
[1:16:53] a single initiative or a single topic.
[1:17:00] But if that goes too far, I mean, I'm open to
[1:17:03] » I'm fine with adding ecoourism and tourism. I just think it's a little
[1:17:07] repetitive, but I don't think it >> either way.
[1:17:12] » You don't think so? Not significant enough.
[1:17:15] » Okay.
[1:17:19] » All right. >> Not in this instance.
[1:17:21] » In this particular instance. And again, we do for the Osprey
[1:17:27] Festival. I know the um both our delegate and our senator have written
[1:17:32] letters for the festival that we read in the beginning and they appreciate it and
[1:17:36] they've been very responsive to it. So, I think we have strong legislative resp.
[1:17:42] So, that's good. So, we can kind of pledge our commitment, our continued
[1:17:45] commitment in that way specifically. And we did name the osprey the town
[1:17:52] bird. Okay.
[1:17:59] Um, all right. Moving on forward. Local access to healthcare. Um, we just
[1:18:05] applied for the FEMA grant for along with the Northern Eck planning district
[1:18:10] commission for and the county of West Morland for the new rescue squad
[1:18:15] building on 700 Colonial Avenue.
[1:18:20] It'll be months before we hear back. said, "Don't wait on, you know, like
[1:18:24] don't hold your breath yet." But, um, I think that's an important one to keep on
[1:18:28] here for our residents and and for our community, not just for that particular
[1:18:33] grant initiative, but also when we get to broadband.
[1:18:39] Um, one of the openings and opportunities with broadband is now
[1:18:45] teaalth and a teaalth kiosk in rural communities.
[1:18:51] And I'm don't have a ton of information on this yet, but it's something else at
[1:18:54] VML. I'm hoping to get a little bit more info on that where we don't have we have
[1:19:00] a real big lack in doctors and sometimes also a lack in broadband. But if there's
[1:19:05] a kiosk, a telealth kiosk maybe at a rescue squad station or something like
[1:19:11] that. I don't know. It's they're trying to invent ways to use technology to to
[1:19:16] help us.
[1:19:20] I don't know.
[1:19:23] [laughter]
[1:19:26] » Um I don't know. I'm sort of just want to say there is new technology coming in
[1:19:31] this stuff and and I'm not sure where it's going to go yet. Um
[1:19:38] All right. So we keeping that one on here.
[1:19:44] » Yes. All right. There we go. All right. Right. The required local match for
[1:19:48] schools. So, this was on there because the proportionate rate of the local
[1:19:52] match was getting astronomical for small communities especially. Um, this last
[1:19:58] year we saw that balance out a little bit. Um, part of that is because the
[1:20:03] state cut funding to schools. So, naturally, it cut our requirement to
[1:20:09] fund schools.
[1:20:13] » I mean, I'm just saying the truth. That's what happened. It's also largely
[1:20:17] due to projection a drop in the school population, right? So the the multiplier
[1:20:22] went down, >> right, for the number of pupils. Yeah.
[1:20:26] Yeah. But they still use a averaged estimate, but yeah.
[1:20:33] » So >> do we leave this on here? Um I remember
[1:20:37] I had spoken with um delegate Pew Kent on this twice. she has a subcommittee at
[1:20:45] the legislature um of four particularly for rural school systems um related to
[1:20:51] this. So if we want to continue working in that avenue, it might be something
[1:20:56] that I end up at a subcommittee meeting for or Natasha does. If we don't want to
[1:21:01] continue down that avenue, I will free my calendar.
[1:21:06] » I'm just asking for input, guys. Do you all believe there's more juice to
[1:21:11] to you know to squeeze from this? >> I don't know.
[1:21:15] Honestly, Tom, I don't know. >> I if you know
[1:21:18] » is that a no. >> I said is that a no?
[1:21:21] » I don't know. >> I don't know.
[1:21:24] » Yeah. I mean, I don't want we don't want busy work, but
[1:21:28] for years on end, we were getting scared by the the rapid rise in the in the
[1:21:34] local match. Well, I think as long as we have some delegate of some sort that's
[1:21:39] pushing for this agenda, I think it's best that we keep it on there
[1:21:42] specifically for our community where that if there's availability for us to
[1:21:47] save money in that avenue, we should take full advantage of that because the
[1:21:51] school system does hit us every year. So, and our numbers are rising within
[1:21:58] the school. They're not getting any lower. And you know,
[1:22:03] it's just going to be a fact of life. So, if we can save money in any way we
[1:22:06] can and there's someone there that's pushing for this, I think we should keep
[1:22:10] it on there. >> Does anybody know if we got any feedback
[1:22:16] last year and did anybody push for it? I mean, yeah, I met with Hillary twice,
[1:22:21] Delegate Kent twice about it, but um she was given it was a struggle at the state
[1:22:27] because the formula is this convoluted, very specific, very comp complicated
[1:22:34] formula and making any adjustments to it isn't equitable across the board. And
[1:22:40] actually some of the adjustments they were proposing was going to make it
[1:22:43] worse for small rural communities which was really what stood her up to be
[1:22:50] opposed to the changes to even though she does wanted to change just how they
[1:22:54] were changing it was actually going to make it harder. So it's a very
[1:22:58] complicated um situation to tackle. I think she's we
[1:23:04] both were learning about how how difficult it is really to do. Um the
[1:23:11] biggest point when we're talking about this, it's not
[1:23:15] so much that of of reducing funding to our school system. It's that the state
[1:23:20] was creating additional mandates, all of these additional requirements and
[1:23:25] then not funding them. And so they were expecting how easy to sit in Richmond
[1:23:32] and say you have to do these 10 new things and you have to fund them and
[1:23:37] mandating that to localities. So that's where the unfairness portion of it was
[1:23:43] coming from. Hey, you want all of these additional things, then state, you've
[1:23:51] decided this. You need to pay for it on your side because it was creating local
[1:23:58] dollar tax raises, but they were statemandated
[1:24:03] items, and that was really the point of it. So,
[1:24:08] because I could see that it could look differently than that. Should should we
[1:24:12] consider rewriting the language then maybe uh that reflects more of that as
[1:24:18] far as unfunded mandates or >> I know just a thought.
[1:24:24] » Yeah, that's a good point.
[1:24:27] » It it feels like something we want to continue to track because there's a lot
[1:24:30] of risk there to to Mr. Ellison's point. Well, I mean, if they hit us with
[1:24:36] another half a million dollars, that's that's a chunk, right? That we
[1:24:41] got to try to figure out how to make that work. And it's not always easy.
[1:24:46] » Yeah. A half a million dollars is a 12 cent tax raise
[1:24:51] for us.
[1:24:56] So, that's the reality of it, right? When the rubber meets the road.
[1:25:03] Okay. So, we'll leave it on there. Maybe reward it a little bit. Improve that.
[1:25:10] David, I like that idea. You good with it? Well, okay. All right. Last one
[1:25:17] that's on the list right now is access to broadband. Um,
[1:25:22] uh, there has been some new traction in this, uh, like I said with the healthc
[1:25:27] care kiosk possibly. Um, I don't know if this shouldn't get a
[1:25:34] little bit more in general technology related, but I'm also fine with leaving
[1:25:38] it the way it is. I think there's some new tech out there that we um may want
[1:25:45] to go after. But this does say teleaalth and
[1:25:49] opportunities for education, workforce development.
[1:25:56] I mean ultimately is the problem not that [clears throat]
[1:26:00] that the people that run broadband the Verizon FiOS you know of the world those
[1:26:05] kind of things find it too expensive to bring it this far from wherever their
[1:26:10] next closest hub is and is there a way to sort of advocate for some government
[1:26:17] assistance to sort of entice the big boys to bring the uh the fiber here
[1:26:22] right that when I think about this. That's what I think of. Is that a
[1:26:25] realistic goal? Well, is it
[1:26:31] realistic? Is maybe going too far, but is it um
[1:26:35] am I thinking about it the right way? >> I think for us it was um you know what
[1:26:40] we currently have in terms of uh internet. There's a monopoly, right? We
[1:26:46] don't have any other options other than the cable or you know some people have
[1:26:53] Starlink and you know those things are coming but there's a cost to those right
[1:26:57] what we're trying to do is make the internet we have today cheaper so if the
[1:27:02] best way to do that is competition so you know all points broadband that's
[1:27:07] gone down through the county and those areas where they now have both some of
[1:27:12] that is a little bit easier to get cost down you You know, I had a house that
[1:27:17] was built for my daughter and I got internet for $20 a month because they
[1:27:23] were interested in doing a two-year contract, no deal kind of thing. And I
[1:27:27] was able to get a lot cheaper than your standard $59.99 or $79.99 type package.
[1:27:33] But I had the ability to say, "I'm not going to go with you. I'm going with the
[1:27:36] other." And that's when the price dropped.
[1:27:39] » Right. So, so the the question I'm asking is is there are there things that
[1:27:42] the state and federal government can do to make it more likely that we get that
[1:27:46] competition here. >> Yes.
[1:27:48] » What I think that would work against us on that is the study that we had done
[1:27:54] » that uh took a look at where we need to even be to be standard.
[1:28:01] Um, and so people are going to focus more on getting us up to,
[1:28:07] you know, borderline, I guess, as opposed to being able to bring a higher
[1:28:13] dollar service here. We don't have the folks to do it.
[1:28:16] » Well, we have the study results and there's things we can do with those
[1:28:21] study results. So to um the point I kind of about the
[1:28:28] community infrastructure point before is once you have a study then you have the
[1:28:33] data that they need sometimes to actually lift off the ground. So having
[1:28:38] that makes me think we need to keep it on here because if something comes
[1:28:42] available we may be able to use that data to our advantage. But to me it's
[1:28:46] not just affordability but also reliability. We had a major responses
[1:28:53] from the initial survey which was you know a very poorly done survey by myself
[1:28:59] I think but it was the major response was the reliability. It's dropping out
[1:29:04] all the time. I can't do my you know cashier checkouts because I'm losing
[1:29:11] vendor business because I can't get somebody's credit card to swipe. Things
[1:29:14] like that. So, um I think in that it's it's competition. It's also putting
[1:29:22] breeze lines nose to the grind a little bit and saying you're not meeting the
[1:29:28] standard and we're going to hold you accountable to it. But I I guess and
[1:29:32] perhaps I had a misconception of it, but my thought would be that they would
[1:29:37] focus more on getting this to where it's reliable as opposed to having more
[1:29:43] competition. >> Yes, both. I think
[1:29:47] » well, new lines would certainly make it more reliable. I mean, the other stuff's
[1:29:51] been here for 30 years. >> Understand? But where are the new lines
[1:29:55] coming from? >> So, where are the new customers coming
[1:29:58] from? >> Right. So like right now it's going down
[1:30:01] through like Longfield Road and going towards the county.
[1:30:05] » So they would just have to come back down 205 to provide those additional
[1:30:10] lines. >> The the
[1:30:12] » he's talking about tracking all access, right?
[1:30:15] » All points broadband. Yeah. >> But see, they weren't contracted to come
[1:30:19] this way because they were doing they were the grants and stuff were for
[1:30:23] specific areas that did not have any >> uh internet at all. And that was the
[1:30:28] initiative Senator Stewart and all those went to Richmond and said, you know, we
[1:30:32] got to make sure that everybody has access. And they they did that.
[1:30:36] » Now, the flip side of that is, you know, if the Verizon tower
[1:30:41] » gets put up and they bring in cable, I mean, they could definitely pull in
[1:30:46] cable that way or just give us the little pods for 5G or whatever.
[1:30:51] » Yeah. there could be your competition and that could, you know, next year or
[1:30:56] the year after whenever that happens could be remove that off of there.
[1:30:59] » I think in the next two years we're going to see a lot of changes on this
[1:31:02] item. I think we're going to see a lot of things I can't even forecast right
[1:31:06] now. >> Well, in all fairness, just the
[1:31:09] competition of T-Mobile having the 5G available here,
[1:31:13] » I was able to use that. I didn't want to go to a 5G network, but um I was able to
[1:31:20] use that to negotiate my cable provider down to
[1:31:29] » Yeah. Okay. So, I'm kind of saying let's leave it
[1:31:34] unless I'm hearing something else from people.
[1:31:37] » Yeah. I think it's sort of like the required local match. We want to leave
[1:31:40] it there for visibility and to prove that we still care about it even if we
[1:31:44] don't know exactly what we want right now.
[1:31:47] » Yeah, we may have to pair with what's out there too. All right. And then I'm
[1:31:51] saying I have noted here to add the waterline system, waterline utility
[1:31:56] system as an additional item on here. And um and I think the probably the
[1:32:03] action requested will be similar to the wastewater treatment but just pertaining
[1:32:07] to water,
[1:32:11] drinking water. Yes. All right. >> Sounds good.
[1:32:14] » All right. Anything else to this? That's now eight. We've gone back up from seven
[1:32:18] to eight.
[1:32:25] » I'm sorry. Did you say drinking water or storm water?
[1:32:29] » Drinking water. >> Well, potable water. Yeah. And so then,
[1:32:37] um, Natasha will bring this back at our next meeting in September for final
[1:32:41] approval. Any other comments then before we
[1:32:47] Okay. The only only comment I would have is if
[1:32:52] we can look at any potential items that are that we're targeting and Richmond
[1:32:58] has verbiage to align the verbiage as close as possible.
[1:33:04] You know, >> I mean, we do that in propo proposals or
[1:33:08] grants or anything like that. You want to kind of make it look like they wrote
[1:33:11] it. Oh, that fits perfectly.
[1:33:15] » Yeah, we'll optimize it. Um, >> okay.
[1:33:23] » All right. With that, we So, we'll we vote on that at the next at the
[1:33:28] September meeting. And with that, we going into closed meetings. So, I move
[1:33:33] that the town council of the town of Columbia Beach, Virginia, convene in
[1:33:36] closed meeting for the following purpose and to discuss the following subjects,
[1:33:39] all of which are exempt by Virginia law from public meeting requirements as
[1:33:42] indicated. Namely, pursuant to Virginia Code section 2.2-371, 2-3711A7
[1:33:47] for the purpose of consultation with legal counsel and briefings by staff
[1:33:50] members or consultants pertaining to actual or probable litigation where such
[1:33:54] consultation or briefing and open meeting would adversely affect the
[1:33:57] negotiating or litigating posture of the town council and pursuant to Virginia
[1:34:01] code section 2.2-3711A88 for the purpose of consultation with
[1:34:05] legal counsel retained by the town council regarding specific legal matters
[1:34:08] requiring the provision of legal advice by such counsel. And with that, we'll uh
[1:34:13] go into close session right after a fivem minute recess.
[1:34:16] » Were you an auctioneer from the previous
[1:59:57] public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements
[2:00:00] under the Virginia Freedom of Information Act and only such public
[2:00:02] business matters as were identified in the motion by which the closed meeting
[2:00:05] was convened were heard discussed or considered in the meeting by councel. I
[2:00:09] need a motion. >> So move.
[2:00:10] » I need a second. I need an individual certification.
[2:00:13] » I certify. >> I say certify.
[2:00:15] » I so certify. >> I certify. I so certify.
[2:00:18] » I so certify. And with that, we will adjourn tonight's meeting at 8 o'clock.