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[0:03]
All right, everybody. I got six o'clock,
so we're going to rock and roll here.
[0:10]
As always, I'd like to welcome everybody
who is in person and those that are
[0:14]
viewing online. Uh, thank you for tuning
in to your local government. I ask
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everyone that's here in the room to take
a second and check your cell phone and
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silence your cell phone all the way on
silent, not on vibrate or looney tunes
[0:28]
music or anything else. Let's make sure
we respect one another's time and each
[0:32]
speaker speaking and your patience is
and understanding is appreciated as
[0:37]
council deliberates on various agenda
items. Um there is open public comment
[0:41]
at this meeting and all meetings and
signups are encouraged um at the front.
[0:47]
Specific public hearings are advertised
and designated separately. We don't have
[0:50]
any specific public hearings tonight. We
do have open public comment. And we want
[0:55]
to acknowledge the staff's work in
preparation. Their insights are
[0:58]
invaluable to each topic of town
business. Uh we operate under the
[1:02]
council manager form of government. And
Natasha Tucker is our town manager.
[1:07]
handles daily operations and department
administration while our town council
[1:12]
provides direction and authorizes policy
in accordance with the laws of the
[1:16]
commonwealth of Virginia and our town
charter. While each council member has
[1:20]
the ultimate responsibility to
contribute and vote distinctly, the
[1:23]
council does work as a body and we are
duly elected to serve responsibly and
[1:28]
ethically the citizens of Colonial
Beach. Participation of each member
[1:32]
contributes to effective leadership and
collaboration is the key to productivity
[1:36]
in local government. Let's engage in
constructive discussion, remain open to
[1:41]
different perspectives, and work
together for effective resolutions. And
[1:44]
finally, I just remind everybody that
the meetings of the town council are
[1:48]
formal proceedings and are thus
recorded. And with that, we will call to
[1:52]
order the August regular meeting on
Wednesday, August 19th, 2026. And I've
[1:59]
got six o'clock on the dot.
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Please join me for um standing for a
moment of silence which will be followed
[2:09]
by the pledge of allegiance.
[2:32]
United States of Americ
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call of members. All members are present
with the exception of Miss Lisa
[2:55]
Grandstaff um who does not have cell
phone service so she will not be calling
[2:59]
in today. So you've got six of the seven
of us up here.
[3:05]
Uh there are no additions to the agenda.
Is there a motion to approve the agenda?
[3:12]
» Is there a second?
>> Second.
[3:13]
» Is there any discussion? All in favor?
>> I.
[3:18]
» Any opposed?
On our consent agenda, we have approval
[3:23]
of minutes for June and August. Is there
a motion to the consent agenda?
[3:28]
» So move.
>> Is there a second to that?
[3:30]
» Second.
>> Okay. Any discussion?
[3:34]
» All right. All in favor say I.
>> I.
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» I.
>> Any opposed? All right. And moving right
[3:43]
along on council member announcements.
And I'll start on your side, Mr. Wood.
[3:46]
Tonight.
[3:50]
Okay, let's see. Uh, first is outdoor
movie night, Saturday, uh, the 29th.
[3:57]
That's going to be at the community
center at 8:30, starring the Black
[4:02]
Panther movie, my cat Sam's favorite
movie. Uh canning and food preservation
[4:08]
classes are Wednesdays, September 2nd
and 9th, 11:00 am to 5:00 pm. Uh coffee
[4:15]
walk has a new route. Uh second Friday,
September 11th uh is
[4:22]
casual walking on the boardwalk starts
at Love Bites and ends at Colonial Buzz.
[4:27]
Uh, second Friday, sip and stroll.
September 11th. Uh, community board game
[4:33]
night is second Tuesday, September 14th,
6 to 8. Uh, and that's going to be at
[4:40]
the community center at well. Uh, there
will be no fitness classes
[4:45]
um until August 25th.
Uh and then regard to the planning
[4:51]
commission,
[4:54]
uh at the July 13th meeting, uh the
commission discussed two chapters of the
[4:59]
comprehensive plan. Uh the board of
zoning appeals uh met last night. Uh and
[5:05]
it approved variance uh to a lot setback
to allow a new home to align with the
[5:10]
neighboring homes. The home that it
replaced was set back further. Uh there
[5:15]
is a vacancy, by the way, on the BZA.
So, if anyone's interested, uh, please
[5:20]
apply through the town website. That's
all we have today.
[5:25]
» Mr. Larson.
>> Hi. Good evening, everybody. I don't
[5:28]
have a specific report on schools
tonight. I think Dr. Ado or possibly his
[5:33]
designate will will be speaking and
probably updates you on the uh on the
[5:37]
start of school.
uh finance department just wants to
[5:40]
remind everyone uh as always if you're
struggling to make end speed if you're
[5:45]
behind on your bills uh to the town tax
bills or otherwise stop in the office
[5:51]
and have a conversation always better to
do that with any creditor by the way
[5:55]
credit card company mortgage owner
landlord uh better to do that than than
[6:00]
be silent but anyway come see them and
they will work out some arrangement to
[6:04]
help you get through and that's it for
me
[6:07]
» thank you Mr. Williams.
[6:12]
» Okay. Good evening everybody. Just a few
announcements from the police
[6:16]
department. Uh the Colona Beach Police
Explorers is an organization of young
[6:22]
people from our community ages 14 to 21
who are interested in learning about
[6:27]
police work. Explorers receive
instruction on police practices and
[6:31]
procedures and are eligible to accompany
officers during their duties. Through
[6:37]
this scouting sponsored program,
explorers learn the value of community
[6:42]
service and develop their leadership
skills. Our explorers will be having a
[6:47]
meeting on Friday, August 28th at 5:00
p.m. in the community room at the police
[6:52]
department. We [clears throat] welcome
all ages eligible young people to come
[6:56]
to the meeting and learn more about what
exploring law enforcement can do for
[7:01]
them. Um, and also just a reminder, the
next neighborhood watch meeting will be
[7:06]
held on September 24th at 6 PM in the
community room at the police department.
[7:11]
Um, and finally, the Colon Bleach Police
Department will be hosting our National
[7:16]
Night Out event on Tuesday, October 13th
from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. on the town
[7:22]
hill. Please save the date and join us
for the outstanding community event.
[7:25]
Hope to see you all there. Thank you.
Thank you, Miss Aford.
[7:33]
» Um, good evening everybody. Um, I just
have a couple things from the community
[7:37]
foundation. Um, so on September 9th at 6
p.m. at the elementary school, the
[7:44]
community foundation will be holding um
hosting the candidates for town council
[7:49]
for the candidate forum. Um all four
candidates will have um a chance to
[7:55]
speak and if you have any questions uh
you can send them to info@
[8:00]
communityfoundation.org.
And then on September 19th at 10:00 a.m.
[8:04]
to 12:00 p.m. at the community center.
They will be hosting a Colonial Beach
[8:09]
meetup with guest speaker Dan Bender and
partner with uh PB Mars. Um, and they
[8:17]
will be talking about strategies to keep
uh more of your money in retirement and
[8:22]
answer any questions. And then on
September 26th from 10:00 a.m. to 1 p.m.
[8:27]
the foundation will be having a shredded
truck at the high school parking lot um
[8:32]
for free shredding. So if you have
anything that would need to be shredded,
[8:35]
bring it on down. Um, and that's all I
have.
[8:40]
» Mr. Allison.
>> Good evening, everybody. Um, so I have
[8:44]
the public works uh department. Um,
since I was here last time, we're going
[8:48]
to do a couple weeks kind of combined
here. And I would like to say it wasn't
[8:53]
as fancy as everybody thought it was
being in San Diego. I was in a a lab for
[9:00]
10 half hours a day that had no windows.
So, sorry I missed last time, but it
[9:05]
wasn't that great in San Diego either.
>> Um,
[9:08]
» we had a good time here, so I don't know
why you say that.
[9:13]
Anyways,
uh starting off with infrastructure
[9:16]
utilities, uh the water leaks, they had
three repaired. Uh sewer backups, one
[9:20]
was cleared. They repaired two manholes
near Wilkerson Seafood to address some
[9:26]
ini from the river. Inspected four
manholes for potential rehab.
[9:31]
Investigated multiple reports of water
leaks throughout town. Assisted with
[9:35]
cleaning ditches and culverts uh
following significant rainfall. Um now
[9:41]
moving on to the wastewater treatment
plant. They continue daily operations,
[9:44]
maintenance and operational support. Uh
continue cleaning and maintain the
[9:50]
nitrification tanks. Say that twice. Uh
utilize rental uh equipment to support
[9:57]
tank cleaning and maintenance. Restore
the town's permanent sludge press to
[10:01]
service. Clean the grit pit.
Replace the reuse pump. and continue
[10:08]
general grounds and site maintenance at
the wastewater treatment plants. Uh for
[10:13]
streets and storm water, they installed
stop signs at both ends of the alleyway
[10:17]
between Santa Maria Avenue and Locust
Avenue. Continue traffic sign repairs
[10:23]
and replacement throughout town. Clean
storm debris from the roadways following
[10:28]
severe weather. cleaned the alleyway
between Santa Maria Avenue and Locust
[10:34]
Avenue from Wakefield to Route 205.
Extended drainage pipe near the beach
[10:39]
swings to improve drainage.
Repaired the radar speed display sign
[10:45]
near the school, which people are still
speeding.
[10:50]
Um clean debris from ditches and storm
water uh infiltr infrastructure. Uh
[10:57]
moving on to buildings and grounds. uh
continued park cleanup and
[11:00]
beautifification throughout town,
continued the grass cutting operations,
[11:05]
completed uh routine building and
facility maintenance, uh installed
[11:10]
fencing at the entrance uh to Eleanor
Park. Looks great, by the way. Um
[11:15]
installed new banners along the
boardwalk and continued maintenance of
[11:20]
town grounds and public spaces.
That's all I have for tonight. Thank
[11:25]
you,
>> Heather. This thing beeped up here and
[11:29]
I'm not sure what's going on with it.
[11:33]
» Yeah, it did. And then it stopped. So, I
just want to make sure I fix that
[11:37]
logistically.
[11:42]
Right.
>> I didn't touch it.
[12:00]
Okay. All right. Hopefully, we get that
worked out. Um, all right. I just have a
[12:06]
few things. Um, first, I'm going to give
uh Lisa's report on her behalf since um
[12:10]
she can't be here tonight for the EDC.
The downtown Columbia Beach Economic
[12:14]
Vitality Committee met on August 11th as
a working session focused on creating
[12:19]
common understanding among its members
of the purpose, goals, and objectives of
[12:24]
the body as they specifically pertain to
the Colonial Beach community. As a Main
[12:28]
Street program, DCB is committed to
preserving the past, charting the future
[12:32]
for Colonial Beach. The Economic
Vitality Committee is at the core of
[12:36]
this commitment. As such, the
committee's work focuses on growing a
[12:39]
diverse economic base in Colonial Beach
by taking a proactive collaborative
[12:43]
approach to building community,
supporting existing businesses and
[12:47]
nonprofits, and encouraging new invest
investment. Specific action steps in a
[12:52]
work plan will be identified at the
September 8th meeting.
[12:56]
Uh, also I just want to say we were back
to school and so I wasn't able to attend
[13:01]
the board of supervisors meeting. It was
also the first day of school back. um
[13:05]
very exciting for the kids and we um
have a little bit of a gap in the
[13:11]
community right now. We have Boy Scouts
and we have Girl Scouts. Uh but the
[13:15]
feeder group to the Boy Scouts, the Cub
Scouts, has been inactive for some time
[13:19]
and so there's some interest in
restarting Cub Scouts in uh Clinton
[13:24]
Beach. If you have any interest in
getting involved, uh send me an email or
[13:29]
contact me and I'll get you with the
people that are working on that. uh also
[13:34]
attended the artwalk sip and stroll, but
then the weather got dicey. Um but there
[13:40]
was a really cool activity. The peddlers
market can um is participating in the
[13:44]
art walk nights and they have a make
your own slime with the kids activity
[13:49]
out there. And um just wanted to
highlight that uh fun um part of of that
[13:56]
activity that's happening in Clon Beach.
Um, other than that, we got Comrell next
[14:01]
week, next Wednesday, and King George is
hosting.
[14:05]
All right, that's all I have. Town
manager update. Natasha, I will pass you
[14:10]
the mic.
Good evening, Madame Mayor, council
[14:15]
members, those in the audience, and
those listening to us online. My town
[14:20]
manager report will consist of a sewer
plant update from Inboden Environmental
[14:25]
Services from Mr. John Simmons followed
by uh the ARPA wastewater treatment
[14:31]
plant um updates that I would provide.
Uh so we will go ahead and start with
[14:35]
John and his emboden updates.
Uh good afternoon everyone. So let's
[14:42]
start on page two, please.
Um it was a bit of an active month at
[14:47]
the wastewater treatment plant. You
know, we all had some pretty significant
[14:50]
rain events and you can really see on
the graph there every day that that
[14:54]
occurred and you know, we're still
dealing with a good bit of eye. We we
[14:59]
have seen that number reduced. It
doesn't quite get it doesn't get so much
[15:04]
flow so fast over there like it was.
But, you know, it it one of these things
[15:09]
that c that really makes it worse is
when the ground is saturated versus when
[15:13]
it's dry. When the ground's dry, the
rain obviously gets absorbed by the
[15:17]
ground and it doesn't come to the plant.
But once you have that first couple days
[15:21]
of rain, then everything got saturated.
You could see the spike after that. So,
[15:25]
you know, as the ground saturated, that
means more is coming to the plant. Um
[15:29]
the next graph there, you can see that
we have been working on the flow meters
[15:33]
there and that's why you see that big
increase here for July versus, you know,
[15:38]
April through June. And that's part of
the the upgrades and repairs being made
[15:42]
at the plant is all of the flow meters.
Uh next page please.
[15:47]
Ultimately affluent quality wasn't
affected much. You know we had good
[15:52]
ammonia TSS all of our nutrients and
things look good. Where we had the issue
[15:57]
this month was was the fecal caulifform
and interero. You know when that flow
[16:01]
gets up as high as it does it doesn't
have the contact time and the UV
[16:05]
disinfection system. And that's where
those elevator results come from. And
[16:09]
you know, one of the repairs is to
replace that UV system over there. And
[16:13]
that's obviously going to help with that
moving forward as well. Um, you know, we
[16:18]
completed the the sludge removal and you
can see the numbers here for for July.
[16:25]
You know, like for instance, at the
beginning of the month, you can see an
[16:27]
eight on the nitrates. You know, those
numbers have been cut in half since we
[16:31]
removed the solids and can change some
of the processes over there. So the
[16:35]
numbers for August are going to look
much better. I know that's one thing
[16:38]
that's a major concern with you all is
uh those nutrient removal. Um the
[16:44]
operational notes, you know, Natasha
will get more into that because this
[16:49]
could be part of her ARPA update, but
it's really just, you know, we did
[16:54]
finish the the sludge processing. That
equipment's been removed, sent back to
[16:58]
the vendor. Um, you know, we've had some
electrical issues over there related,
[17:03]
some related to the storm, some not, but
it's really just the kind of the same
[17:07]
old same old with us when we have these
bad storm events. We got lucky for
[17:11]
several months, had a dry spell. That's
bad for the water table, but it's good
[17:15]
for the wastewater plant. Um, but that
really concludes my update. Does anybody
[17:19]
have any questions?
>> Mr. Williams?
[17:24]
» Um, yeah, just a couple of follow-up
questions from prior meetings. Um any
[17:28]
updates on the uh
the fat oil grease the fog um ordinance
[17:36]
that we were considering or
>> I'm not sure where that really stands
[17:39]
right now with um with Natasha and pal.
I know that that's something that's been
[17:43]
discussed and I think it's just a matter
of finalizing you know how that's going
[17:47]
to look ordinance-wise or whatever the
next steps would be with that.
[17:52]
» Okay. And also kind of piggy back off of
that, the the issue we're having with
[17:57]
inflow and infiltration um with people
leaving their caps off of their
[18:01]
cleanouts, stuff like that.
>> I know we had talked about possibly
[18:04]
addressing that at some point with some
kind of uh policy or
[18:08]
» I think that's something that you'll
also see soon. You know, it's definitely
[18:11]
something we've all discussed and have
been working on that. It um and I think
[18:15]
that's where most of the reduction that
we're noticing is coming from is where,
[18:19]
you know, Chris and his team are fixing
the cleanouts on the town property. And
[18:23]
I think hopefully some of the citizens
have been listening. They're starting to
[18:26]
fix some of their issues now that
they're aware of what causes that.
[18:29]
» You know, we've got a significant amount
of camera work done. And we haven't
[18:34]
found any real huge problems, but most
of the numbered streets. Everything is
[18:39]
pretty much decent shape over there. You
know, we did find some significant
[18:43]
problems, you know, this week that we
need to look into and see what next
[18:47]
steps are, but um we've identified a lot
of the major areas that would then be on
[18:53]
the town's responsibility, but a lot of
it still remains those cleanouts on on
[18:58]
the citizens properties. So, as soon as
we can get that resolved, it'll
[19:01]
definitely improve it. Okay. Thank you.
>> Yes, sir.
[19:06]
» Any other questions?
>> Okay.
[19:18]
So, we um have received ARPA grant
funding and we have put these funds to
[19:26]
um such great use as you'll see as I go
over um the projects that we've been
[19:31]
working on this evening. Uh these
projects represent roughly $3.7 million
[19:40]
that the town has invested in 23
projects and these projects are designed
[19:45]
to strengthen and modernize our
wastewater system. The work is focused
[19:51]
on three critical areas of our
wastewater system. The pump stations,
[19:56]
the collection system, and the
wastewater treatment plant itself. Next
[20:00]
slide.
[20:04]
So, this first slide represents the
projects um for the wastewater uh pump
[20:09]
stations.
We've invested approximately $429,000
[20:16]
in improvements to three critical
wastewater pump stations. New emergency
[20:22]
gener generators have been purchased for
the Third Street, RTU, and Horton Street
[20:28]
pump stations. Once these are installed,
the generators will provide backup power
[20:34]
during outages and other emergencies,
which will help keep waste water moving
[20:39]
through the system when electrical
services disrupted. The Third Street
[20:44]
pump station is also receiving
additional improvements. A new roof has
[20:49]
been installed, exterior structural
supports have been completed, and the
[20:53]
building will receive additional
exterior improvements.
[20:57]
These investments are about reliability
and resiliency.
[21:02]
Pump stations are critical links between
the collection system and the treatment
[21:07]
plant. Thus, they maintain their
operation during an emergency, which
[21:12]
helps protect the entire wastewater
system.
[21:18]
This slide represents uh the projects
for our collection system.
[21:23]
Approximately $992,000
is being invested in the town's
[21:28]
wastewater collection system. This is a
network of sewer lines and related
[21:33]
infrastructure that carries wastewater
to the treatment plant. One of the
[21:38]
largest completed projects is the
replacement of the Six Street sewer
[21:43]
line. And that project costs $611,000.
But replacing infrastructure is only
[21:51]
part of the story. I want to highlight
that we're conducting camera
[21:56]
inspections, smoke testing throughout
the system to identify damaged pipes,
[22:01]
leaks, improper connections, and areas
where storm water and groundwater may be
[22:07]
entering the system. Once the problems
are identified, the ARPA funding helps
[22:12]
us address these problems. The town has
lined manholes, completed targeted
[22:18]
repairs, and installed 27 rainuards with
additional rain guards and repairs
[22:25]
planned. Reducing the amount of
unnecessary water entering the sewer
[22:30]
system means that less water has to be
pumped and treated at the wastewater
[22:35]
treatment plant. These improvements also
extend the useful life of our
[22:40]
infrastructure and allow the town to
better target future investments.
[22:46]
Much of this work happens underground
and they're not visible to our
[22:50]
residents, but it is an important part
of building a stronger and more reliable
[22:55]
wastewater system.
And lastly, our wastewater treatment
[23:01]
plant itself.
The largest portion of the town's ARPA
[23:07]
grant funding uh goes towards the
wastewater treatment plant.
[23:11]
Approximately $2.35 million is dedicated
to improvements at the wastewater
[23:17]
treatment plant. One of the most
significant completed projects involved
[23:23]
removing more than 2.7 million pounds,
approximately 1300 tons of accumulated
[23:30]
sludge from the facility.
We've also replaced and we're re
[23:36]
rehabilitating critical equipment
throughout the treatment plant. Two new
[23:41]
influent pumps and two new effluent
pumps have been ordered. Improvements
[23:46]
are underway to the dnit nitrification
filters and other treatment components.
[23:52]
Electrical and structural assessments
are helping identify and prioritize
[23:57]
additional needs. The SCADA control
system has been replaced, which
[24:02]
modernizes the technology used to
operate and monitor critical treatment
[24:06]
processes.
Another major milestone was the arrival
[24:11]
of the town's new UV disinfection
system. We've received the equipment and
[24:16]
installation planning is underway. Once
operational, the system will provide an
[24:22]
important upgrade to the final stage of
the wastewater treatment process.
[24:27]
We've also completed the engineering and
design for improvements to the plant's
[24:32]
headworks and new grit removal equipment
has been ordered.
[24:37]
Together, these projects address aging
infrastructure throughout the treatment
[24:42]
plant rather than focusing on single
pieces of equipment or process.
[24:48]
When the ARPA funding ends, improvements
in the plant will remain. There is still
[24:54]
work to be done, but I am proud of the
significant process that's already been
[24:58]
made. Altogether, this comprises 23
projects, $3.77
[25:06]
million of ARPA funds, and three
critical parts of our wastewater system.
[25:12]
This one significant investment
is a true investment in the future of
[25:18]
Colonial Beach.
Next slide, please.
[25:25]
Okay.
So, this slide represents
[25:31]
the funding that we've received from
ARPA. Uh we've identified funding across
[25:37]
the central drainage area which is
completed, the INI testing, uh the
[25:43]
wastewater treatment plant repairs and
wastewater processing system repairs and
[25:48]
upgrades.
We've requested four rounds of
[25:53]
reimbursements.
Uh we have received the first three uh
[25:59]
requests for reimbursements and the
fourth request is still pending
[26:04]
dispersement.
Our balance of uh opera funds that
[26:09]
remains is roughly 1.9
million.
[26:16]
So we are well targeted to complete and
use the funds within the timeline of
[26:23]
November 2026.
However, I want to stress that once um
[26:28]
this round of ARPA funds are expended,
there's still more work that needs to be
[26:35]
done in the plant which is part of the
consent order. So we will have to uh
[26:41]
target additional sources of funding.
We're in a good position to continue the
[26:48]
projects because as we've received the
reimbursements from the ARPA fundings,
[26:53]
we can uh use those funds to continue
with projects in the plant or we could
[26:58]
use those funds for some other um areas
as council directs.
[27:07]
And lastly, mayor and council, I have
some very good news to share regarding
[27:14]
uh the town's WQIFF monetary assessment.
DEEQ has officially waved our 2025
[27:21]
assessment in full, thus eliminating the
entire $235,152
[27:30]
obligation.
It's important to put this great
[27:34]
accomplishment into context. In 2024,
the town was initially facing a WQIFF
[27:41]
monetary assessment of approximately
$117,000.
[27:46]
Through our work with DEEQ and the
progress being made at the wastewater
[27:50]
treatment plant, we were successful in
having that assessment significantly
[27:55]
reduced. This year, we have gone from
receiving a reduction to receiving a
[28:01]
full waiver. The town's 2025 assessment
was $235,152
[28:09]
and DEEQ has now waved the entire
amount. That means the town will not
[28:15]
have to pay any portion of that
assessment.
[28:19]
[applause]
[28:24]
That that is a great accomplishment.
And this just really demonstrates the
[28:29]
progress that we're making. Over the
past two years, we've continued to
[28:34]
address deficiencies at the wastewater
treatment plant, make significant
[28:38]
infrastructure investments, strengthen
our operations, and maintain consistent
[28:43]
communication with DEEQ. We still have a
lot of work to do, but we're clearly
[28:48]
moving in the right direction. I want to
recognize Embodden, our third-party
[28:54]
wastewater operator, for the role that
they've played in helping us get to this
[28:58]
point. Their operational expertise, work
at the work uh work at the treatment
[29:04]
plant and assistance in addressing
compliance issues have been an important
[29:10]
part of the progress we've made. I also
want to recognize our town staff and
[29:15]
everyone who has worked behind the
scenes to improve the system and our
[29:20]
standing with DEEQ.
This is particularly significant when
[29:25]
you consider the investments we're
currently making in the wastewater
[29:28]
system. Every dollar that we do not
spend on a monetary assessment is a
[29:34]
dollar that can remain available to
support the system and our taxpayers.
[29:40]
In 2024, we were able to substantially
reduce the assessment and in 2025, we
[29:47]
eliminated it entirely.
This is a significant accomplishment and
[29:53]
a very positive outcome for the town and
our utility customers.
[29:59]
» Great job.
[30:04]
I want to add one more shout out to that
to also because they don't get
[30:08]
recognized a lot to our finance
department.
[30:11]
um because it doesn't just take the work
and the planning and the projects but to
[30:17]
work with the EQ it's a federal funds
funneled through the state that are
[30:22]
audited tracked reimbursements have to
include receipts and documentation and
[30:29]
communication and there have to be
transparency and the process with DEQ
[30:34]
has not been an easy one because the
staff at DEQ has changed multiple times.
[30:39]
So just want to also shout out a little
bit for finance uh to get some
[30:45]
recognition in this long process. Yes,
Mr. Wood.
[30:50]
You know, if we remember where we were a
little over three years ago,
[30:56]
we had just dumped about a million
gallons of sewage into the PTOIC. We
[31:02]
were this far away from receiverhip.
Uh thanks to the leadership
[31:09]
of this lady here, Natasha Tucker, and
the wisdom of this gentleman over here,
[31:15]
we have proven that you get what you pay
for. Okay? We tried to peacemeal it for
[31:21]
years and years and years and years and
we almost sunk because of it. So, one of
[31:28]
the things that I just want to put u a
little bug in everybody's ear because
[31:35]
not all of us will uh be here next year,
but I certainly hope that we can find
[31:42]
our way to continue working with
Emboden. I know that our town manager is
[31:48]
going to do everything she can to keep
us on the right track. And uh by the
[31:56]
way, thanks for the quarter million
bucks.
[32:03]
Anybody else?
All right. Well, that was a good update.
[32:09]
Thank you. Appreciate it. And it closes
out in November, so we'll get an
[32:12]
finalized update in November, right?
Yeah.
[32:18]
Um and that will come in also to our
legislative agenda discussion later. um
[32:24]
today. All right. Next up is our
presentations. We have a years of
[32:30]
service award. Like most of our public
works employees, Mr. Michael Welden is
[32:36]
of the Shire
kind and
[32:41]
uh not here tonight to get a his public
recognition. Um but he uh works
[32:49]
tirelessly for the town. He does
whatever he's asked. He works in the
[32:52]
grounds and maintenance crew. And um as
far as uh going out and having to work
[32:58]
independently, get things done, clean,
keep the town clean on a busy summer
[33:02]
resort area, it's a big job. It's a hot
job, sweaty, sometimes stormy or
[33:08]
everything else in between. And he does
it with care and dedication. So, we want
[33:13]
to say thank you to Mr. Michael Weldon
and uh recognize his valuable
[33:18]
contributions over the past five years.
His loyal and dedicated service have
[33:23]
played an integral role in the success
of the town of Columbia Beach. So, just
[33:26]
a round of applause for Michael and
[applause]
[33:32]
and Chris, you can get this over to him
with his
[33:37]
pen and everything. All right. I'll give
that to you after the meeting.
[33:45]
Next up is West Morland County Board of
Supervisors, Mr. Trivet. Welcome, Mr.
[33:50]
Trivet.
[33:57]
Madame Mayor, town council, good to see
you. Just talk congratulations.
[34:03]
That's not easy. And I'm sure that
didn't it wasn't an effort only by you,
[34:06]
but your whole team. And and it's not
easy. It's just like when you get in
[34:11]
that IRS loop and you can't get out of
it. Same way with DEEQ, I can tell you.
[34:16]
So, that's that's that you really need
to be commended big time for that. Um,
[34:21]
Rebecca Pis is our new uh parks and
recck director. She worked for the YMCA
[34:26]
for several years. uh we discontinued
our contract in West Mullen with the
[34:30]
YMCA
and um and now she'll be the new parks
[34:35]
and recck director and she'll reach out
to all the stakeholders and she already
[34:39]
is. They were having a meeting tonight
actually with uh several different uh
[34:44]
groups um to try to help see where we go
from here when it comes to park and
[34:49]
wreck. So, I'm looking forward to good
things there. Um the sign should be up
[34:53]
at the transfer station now saying that
uh they'll accept 5 by8 trailers. Um
[34:58]
somebody sent me a picture this past
weekend. It hadn't been removed and they
[35:02]
couldn't take their trailer in there and
it should have been done. We'd asked
[35:06]
Waste Management to do that several
weeks ago and unfortunately it just
[35:09]
didn't happen. But should have been
taken care of today. So hopefully that's
[35:13]
been resolved. Um, we voted on the
personal property tax relief, uh, and
[35:18]
approved 20%
um, basically off of your vehicles. So,
[35:23]
if you own a vehicle that costs $1,000,
you don't owe owe anything. So, which is
[35:28]
good. And, uh, but there ain't too many
vehicles that are $1,000. So, um,
[35:33]
anyway, is there anything that anybody
has for me tonight? I'm going to be
[35:36]
short and um can't Oh, one thing I do
want to tell you, I was at a um a Veco
[35:42]
conference last week and the governor
was a guest speaker and she's put 200
[35:46]
more million into the uh wastewater uh
treatment plants for upgrades. And so I
[35:54]
know I saw that as at the top of your
agenda um uh when you do your
[35:58]
legislative session, but I'm going to
keep that in front of uh our our state
[36:02]
senator because I see him very
frequently and remind him every time I
[36:07]
see him that we want that money. You
know, we will use it. We won't be like a
[36:11]
bordering county that got 12 million,
they didn't use it. We know we got money
[36:16]
here as a result of him uh getting
behind us. And I think he will do that
[36:20]
again and there's extra money there. So,
keep that, you know, straight straight
[36:26]
up there at the forefront and and
hopefully we'll get several million
[36:29]
again. Any questions tonight about
anything?
[36:33]
» Anybody?
>> No. Thank you so much.
[36:36]
» Thank you.
[36:41]
» Dr. Ado, you're up next.
[36:53]
Well, good evening,
Madame Mayor, uh, council members,
[36:59]
everyone present tonight. That's as
short as I've ever heard Mr. Tet.
[37:04]
[laughter]
I'm still junk, but
[37:09]
that's impressive. Uh, well, uh, on to
my presentation. and uh thank you for
[37:15]
allowing me to speak uh tonight uh since
our last uh gathering from your last
[37:21]
meeting. Uh we have uh started school.
It's our second week of school and as I
[37:28]
shared uh last year. Uh this year is
even better. It is it is smooth. It is
[37:35]
uh it is it it is nice. Uh it's my 30th
year in in education and I'm celebrating
[37:42]
that uh as my my 30th uh and I'm
enjoying every minute of it. But we did
[37:49]
uh start out with our new teachers
coming in uh several weeks ago and we
[37:53]
were able to introduce them to Colonia
Beach uh public schools and also around
[37:58]
the town in our annual golf cart and
that was amazing and marvelous. The week
[38:04]
after that, all of our staff uh returned
uh to us and they were excited uh for
[38:11]
our kids to return and we usually do
some professional development and uh
[38:15]
keep them a breast of all the changes
that has come from Richmond that impacts
[38:19]
us and that was uh wonderful. I was able
to share with our staff that we are
[38:25]
definitely meeting all of our goals in
that strategic plan. One that I
[38:29]
highlighted uh so they're aware of it is
that two years ago we were able to
[38:35]
retain and recruit uh all of our uh we
had 88% retainment of our staff two
[38:42]
years ago. So that was incredible. And
this past year we had 89%.
[38:47]
Uh so that tells us that we're doing
something correct. Our environment, our
[38:51]
culture is is great and folks are are
deciding to stay here at at the beach.
[38:57]
So, uh, that's one I'm I'm very excited
about. Uh, but moving on, uh, the same
[39:03]
week we had our ribbon cutting ceremony,
and I do want to thank, uh, Madame
[39:08]
Mayor, uh, town manager and and chief
for, uh, showing up and, uh, uh,
[39:14]
supporting the schools. I'm I'm sure the
rest of you guys were there in spirit.
[39:19]
If you, if you want to, uh, get a tour,
please let me know. I take you through.
[39:24]
It's is wonderful. uh for the outside
you probably seen it's even better
[39:28]
inside and I think our kids our staff
are enjoying it every single day. I do
[39:35]
want to give a big shout out huge shout
out uh to BAM uh to the Lions Club and
[39:42]
also to our PTA. Uh we had a lot of
businesses support the school to get it
[39:48]
started. these three organizations uh
helped feed our staff while they were
[39:55]
here the first week. So, we want to give
a big shout out and thank you uh to all
[39:59]
of them. We greatly appreciate their
partnership and their support of this
[40:04]
school system.
And as we move along, uh one last thing,
[40:08]
I'm going to be short. I do want to
thank uh Mr. Trivet also. Uh thank you,
[40:13]
Mr. Trivet, uh for being there, uh at
the ribbon cutting. uh he has been a big
[40:18]
supporter of us and we we appreciate his
guidance. Sometimes I do have to call
[40:22]
him to to have a a chat. Uh but uh he's
always been very uh graceful and and
[40:29]
wonderful uh for the school system. Uh
but finally I do want to tell uh share
[40:34]
with you that we are completing the uh
punch list uh for the front entrance and
[40:40]
the main office and that's that's where
we are to take care of little things and
[40:44]
we're moving straight into our phase
two. As you probably remember our
[40:49]
initial plan was always to
build a a wait room. Uh, as of right
[40:56]
now, uh, the wait room is is is in a
classroom and we we want to get that
[41:01]
classroom back and get it out of that
classroom and get a wait room outside
[41:06]
and also operational offices and maybe
we're thinking about some sped uh,
[41:11]
special education offices also. Uh, it
will be an addition to to the high
[41:16]
school. Uh, but we we are excited. Uh,
this is great for all of our kids that
[41:22]
are coming from elementary school that
will be going to the high school for
[41:26]
years to come. I'm I'm old. I probably
won't see that. This is my 30th, so uh
[41:31]
don't don't quote me. I I have one of my
board members here and I keep telling
[41:34]
them they said I better not give up on
them by the end of the year. Uh VRS said
[41:39]
I can I can go out and and relax after
30. Uh so I'm I'm I'm I'm enjoying this
[41:44]
this last year. I'm not saying I'm
leaving. It's just uh it's good to be in
[41:48]
opposition. [laughter]
Uh but that's all I have for you
[41:52]
tonight. Uh if you have any questions
for me, I'll be glad to answer those.
[42:00]
I hope you don't retire this year. But
thank you for letting us know [laughter]
[42:05]
and being there. It's been uh the ribbon
cutting was excellent. The front
[42:09]
entrance is really a massive
improvement. And um I'm sure it's going
[42:13]
smoother because you don't have a
construction crew around there right now
[42:16]
as well. But um yeah, thank you.
[42:27]
» All right,
[42:33]
moving right along. Next is our public
comment. During public comment or
[42:36]
hearings, we ask that uh guidelines be
followed. We do ask that you stand at
[42:40]
the podium and for the record, please
state your name and address. If you'd
[42:44]
like to be contacted, please provide
your contact information to the clerk.
[42:48]
Make your comments to the council as a
whole. Be brief. State your position and
[42:52]
provide facts. You can provide any
written uh statements or supporting
[42:56]
materials to the clerk, who is Heather
Oliver, and she can distribute them to
[42:59]
the council and the town manager. Debate
is prohibited. Follow-up on comments is
[43:04]
provided by the town manager. and speak
clearly as we want to hear what you have
[43:09]
to say. The council will try to hear
everyone who wishes to speak on a
[43:13]
subject, any subject, and comments are
limited to five minutes. Time cannot be
[43:18]
transferred to another speaker. If you
represent a group, you may wish to
[43:22]
identify other members of your group who
are in attendance. And after public
[43:25]
comment is closed, I encourage you to
stay as the council engages in dialogue
[43:29]
and deliberation on uh subsequent agenda
items. With that, we'll open public
[43:34]
comment.
First up is Johnny.
[43:39]
Welcome.
[43:52]
Good evening, madame mayor and council
members. My name is Joanie Milward and
[43:56]
I'm speaking to you tonight as president
of the Virginia Osprey Foundation. I
[44:00]
live at 405 Livingstone Street in
Colonial Beach and I want to share with
[44:05]
you the data that our organization has
collected this osprey season. When this
[44:10]
season began, we counted 38 active
nests, meaning there were a pair of
[44:14]
adult birds occupying each of those
nests. Out of those 38 active nests,
[44:19]
only 11 nests were successful.
Those 11 nests produced 20 chicks that
[44:25]
were raised and fledged or raised to
fledge size. We are now down to 14
[44:32]
chicks postfledge. That was caused by
trauma, starvation, electrocution,
[44:38]
or the fledgling just disappeared.
Better than last year, yes, but still
[44:44]
another disastrous year. Our
reproductive rate this year is only
[44:49]
0.526
chicks per nest. To sustain a
[44:53]
population, the reproduct reproductive
rate must be 1.15 chicks per nest. I
[45:00]
wish I had better news. The Chesapeake
Bay itself is seeing far worse numbers
[45:04]
well below what was happening during the
DDT era. The next item I want to speak
[45:10]
to is item 12A on the agenda, the 2027
legislative agenda, and propose some
[45:16]
additional language specifically under
the priorities of environmental
[45:21]
resiliency and storm water and under
economic development and tourism. And I
[45:28]
have provided you with the additional
language. It's in bold and uh for the
[45:34]
first it would uh be under the
environmental resiliency. It would come
[45:39]
after the word projects and it states to
include research and effective
[45:45]
management of Atlantic Manhaden
industrial perane reduction fishing in
[45:50]
Virginia waters.
[45:54]
I believe the proposed additional
language to that section shows an
[45:59]
understanding of the crisis Virginia and
specifically Colonial Beach is facing in
[46:04]
regards to its osprey. Their
reproductive re their reproductivity
[46:09]
rate is well below what it was during
the DDT era. They are literally starving
[46:14]
to death. Organizations like ours have
been advocating for better management of
[46:19]
Atlantic Manhaden and I believe it is
time for the town to step up and do the
[46:23]
same. This is a first step and I urge
you to take that step. As for the
[46:29]
economic development priority,
the additional language it starts after
[46:35]
initiatives to include ecoourism events
such as the Virginia Osprey Festival.
[46:45]
Our town has so much to offer and
ecoourism is an important draw for
[46:49]
visitors to Colonial Beach as they can
enjoy the numerous hiking birding venues
[46:53]
in the town and surrounding area and
easy access to water recreation. And the
[47:00]
Virginia Osprey Festival is a prime
example. We brought in approximately
[47:04]
1500 to 2,000 attendees in April. They
came from as far away as Maine just to
[47:10]
attend the festival.
And with that in mind, I want to thank
[47:14]
everyone that came out to our
documentary screening on Sunday, The
[47:18]
Last Osprey. Even a small event like
this attracted 80 people. They came from
[47:23]
Richmond, Williamsburg, Farnum, Northern
Virginia, Virginia Beach, and Baltimore,
[47:30]
some of who stayed overnight and had
dinner in our local restaurants. I thank
[47:34]
you for your time and consideration. If
you have any questions, please reach out
[47:38]
to me.
[47:42]
Thank you.
[47:48]
» Welcome,
[47:52]
Madame Mayor. Town Counselors, Nigel
Long, 115 Linhaven Court. Um, I I was
[47:58]
going to be very quick, but let me add
to what I was going to say. Um, my
[48:02]
support of what uh Joanie just presented
to you. I think the menhaden issue is
[48:09]
not only an issue for the osprey
population in town. There are probably
[48:15]
many reason a number of reasons why our
population has declined but clearly over
[48:22]
fishing of menhaden
uh in the Chesapeake Bay um is an issue.
[48:29]
Virginia is the only I believe I'm right
in saying the only um state on the east
[48:35]
coast that allows that sort of fishing
and it impacts other elements of the
[48:41]
marine community in addition to ospreys
and is I think something we should care
[48:46]
about. Um
my suggestion on the legislative
[48:53]
priorities was actually um to support
something um that uh the honorable uh
[49:01]
Richard Stewart is also in favor of. I
just want to put on record that I agree
[49:07]
with him about something. Um the uh and
that is about the protection of the
[49:14]
PTOAC a aquifer and the qual quality of
the PTOAC river uh since it provides the
[49:20]
water supply for the town of Colonial
Beach. Um and I would my suggestion is
[49:27]
that at the end of the environmental
resiliency and storm water section
[49:33]
um where it says water quality we add
the words including protection of the
[49:37]
PTOAC river and the PTOAC aquifer um I
think over the coming years that will be
[49:45]
increasingly important for this town
this community um particularly if it
[49:50]
grows um and we should um recog
recognize and respond to that. Um, I do
[49:57]
have I assume you may have read it, but
I can I only have one copy with me. Give
[50:02]
a copy to the town clerk. The letter
that um, Mr. Stewart wrote to our
[50:08]
governor in relation to the aquifer and
our water supply. Now that may well have
[50:14]
been written in relation to other um
economic activities in the state and use
[50:20]
of water but I think the fundamental
points there about protecting our water
[50:23]
supply that he made to the governor um
at the end of July are important. If you
[50:29]
haven't seen it I'll give a copy to uh
uh to your secretary. Thank you.
[50:37]
» Thank you.
[50:52]
Is anybody else signed up?
[50:56]
Would anybody else like to come up?
>> Always open it up.
[51:11]
noted for the record.
[51:15]
Anyone else?
Okay.
[51:19]
All right. With that, we will close uh
public comment. I'll have
[51:24]
seven different times. 6:51 p.m.
[51:31]
Um, and that moves us directly into the
2027 legislative agenda.
[51:39]
Miss Tucker,
[51:44]
Madame Mayor, Council, tonight, I'd like
to begin our discussion regarding the
[51:49]
town's legislative priorities for the
upcoming general assembly session. Each
[51:55]
year we have an opportunity to identify
the issues that are most important to
[51:59]
Colonial Beach and communicate these
priorities to our legislative delegation
[52:04]
and our partners at VML.
The purpose of tonight's discussion is
[52:08]
to determine where council would like
the town to focus its advocacy efforts.
[52:14]
I would suggest that we keep the list um
relatively focused and prioritize issues
[52:19]
that have a direct impact on our
operations, finances, infrastructure,
[52:24]
and community.
Uh the items that you see uh on the
[52:29]
screen and which is part of your packet.
Uh they're consistent with council's
[52:35]
priorities from the previous year. And
you'll notice that we reduced last
[52:41]
year's priorities to seven.
I'd like to walk through each of the
[52:46]
priorities, get council's feedback, and
identify any additional in issues that
[52:53]
you would like included or excluded from
the list. Based on tonight's discussion,
[53:00]
we'll make necessary revisions and bring
the final priorities back for council's
[53:04]
consideration.
Ultimately, this is council's
[53:08]
legislative agenda and we want to make
sure it accurately reflects the issues
[53:13]
uh that council believes are most
important to Colonial Beach. And with
[53:18]
that, I open the floor for discussion
amongst council.
[53:25]
All right. So, as you suggested, I think
we'll take the priorities from top to
[53:30]
bottom. We'll go through them one by
one, see if anybody's got any questions
[53:34]
and tackle it that way. So, uh, top of
line is wastewater treatment plant. Um,
[53:42]
funding to support critical improvements
and upgrades necessary to maintain
[53:45]
regulatory compliance, protect public
health, and ensure long-term
[53:49]
sustainability of community
infrastructure.
[53:52]
Uh, I will say as a um
as part of the process when we're
[53:58]
lobbying in Richmond or in DC,
they want a sort of one sheet summary
[54:05]
quick target tagline, right? Then when
something is connecting and we see
[54:13]
movement on legislation or funding or or
something we're opposed to whatever it
[54:19]
is then we provide supplemental
documentation generally a a one pager
[54:26]
that is paragraph formed and then also
additional context like engineering
[54:31]
reports or things like that. So, I don't
want to take the um don't take the
[54:36]
little quick blurb as in it's exclusive
of we kind of purposely
[54:43]
make it
the verbiage to apply as broadly to the
[54:48]
topic as we can. Right? So, um the only
thing I would say about this top one is
[54:55]
and this is kind of a question for
Natasha
[54:59]
wastewater treatment plant. Do we need
to include also like the sewer
[55:04]
infrastructure? Should that be in the
title at all? It's not just the plant,
[55:08]
but it's also
the
[55:13]
» system. That's a good suggestion, Madame
Mayor. I can certainly include that.
[55:20]
» Well, I'm just is open for discussion. I
mean, other people what any other ideas
[55:24]
you have about that.
>> Yeah, I think in your thing you put
[55:27]
wastewater treatment plant and
wastewater
[55:30]
treatment sewer or something like that.
So maybe just kind of use both of those
[55:34]
terms so we're not limiting ourselves
just to the plant because okay obviously
[55:39]
we have
>> issues in the point we have issues in
[55:42]
you know different areas of town that
require sewer
[55:46]
» and
I mean we want as much money as we can
[55:50]
get to fix it all. Right.
>> Understood. I do have a quick question
[55:54]
though since uh there are additional
funds uh being made available by the
[56:00]
state for wastewater treatment plants
specifically.
[56:05]
» Mhm.
>> Um would be would we be more successful
[56:10]
in accessing those funds if we were a
little more targeted? I understand the
[56:15]
point
>> that we want to be broad, but I think we
[56:18]
want to be uh tip of the spear enough to
take advantage of those new funds.
[56:23]
» I think those funds target sewer
infrastructure though as well.
[56:27]
» Okay.
[56:31]
» I think they uh do as well. So um after
we have concluded tonight's discussion,
[56:38]
I will also follow up with our um
delegates and find out particularly for
[56:47]
this item the best way to um name that
priority so that it's all inclusive and
[56:54]
we um aren't limiting ourselves uh to
the types of funding that we can
[56:58]
receive. Yeah, we may want to mimic the
way the state is
[57:03]
um the verb. Yeah, the verb. Exactly.
Like literally cut and paste from state
[57:09]
language. Um Okay. So, that's I don't
know there's I'm can't imagine anybody
[57:15]
wants to take this item off the list.
>> Okay. Yes, Mr. Williams.
[57:20]
» Um just a kind of general question. Um,
we've had since I've been on council,
[57:28]
this be my sixth year, um, well, fifth
year we've been doing these, I think
[57:35]
majority of the time. Um, I know we got
ARPA funds, but that was a whole
[57:39]
different ballgame. Um, do we have any,
um, statistics or figures on what we've
[57:46]
received like legislative wise, um,
since we've been doing these? Um, have
[57:53]
we received any money Um any support
um like big significant things that you
[57:59]
can think of off
>> the North Beach shoreline.
[58:03]
the engineering for that top of mind.
>> That was through our legislature.
[58:09]
» That was through the that money is
federal money from FEMA that goes
[58:14]
through the state that we wrote a grant
for to
[58:19]
the state entity to with the Northern E
Planning District Commission. Yeah,
[58:25]
that's a direct legislature
>> filters in community.
[58:28]
» That's a good example.
>> Okay. Yeah, that's a good example. Do
[58:31]
you have any others?
So, I don't have any others that I had
[58:37]
prepared for you tonight, but I do know
prior to um me being appointed town
[58:44]
council, there was a significant amount
that was received. Um I don't know
[58:48]
whether it was through from the state,
but it was a direct uh relationship with
[58:53]
the legislative priorities and
communicating what the town needed with
[58:59]
our elected officials in Richmond. Um I
don't have that exact amount but that we
[59:04]
did receive those uh fundings at that
time.
[59:06]
» Okay. I think that was DEEQ the 5.7 if I
remember off top of my head.
[59:11]
» The 5.7 is DEQ but then there was ARPA
funds separate from that which were
[59:18]
you know divvied out throughout the
state
[59:21]
» and that was a direct result
>> of going to Richmond and speaking with
[59:25]
our partners as part of this legislative
agenda.
[59:28]
» Okay. And just wondering if we have any
feedback on the current list that we've
[59:33]
submitted from 26
>> uh from last year's list. Um no, but
[59:40]
that's why we're going through with this
year. Every year this comes around and
[59:44]
it's an opportunity for us to receive um
some kind of funding. Um,
[59:51]
I do know that all localities within the
Commonwealth, um, they look at their
[59:57]
needs and their priorities and the funds
are then addressed that way. So, with
[1:00:03]
the additional funds that are now
available, we really stand a really,
[1:00:08]
really good chance of being one of the
communities that are allocated some of
[1:00:13]
those fundings.
>> That's good news. Thank you.
[1:00:17]
So I think we've received federal or
state funds in almost every single one
[1:00:21]
of of these or are currently underway in
that process. So you know I think the
[1:00:26]
wastewater treatment plans kind of prime
and easy example but in community
[1:00:31]
infrastructure the VOTE um road for
Dwight Avenue extension um that is a
[1:00:37]
also direct allocation from the state
through our VOTE partners. So, um, when
[1:00:43]
we move to community infrastructure, the
next one for sidewalks, crosswalks,
[1:00:47]
roadway maintenance, and other
enhancements, things like the design of
[1:00:51]
the first street sidewalk that we didn't
get the sidewalk implemented, but the
[1:00:55]
design was paid for, um, or accessing
those sidewalk grants, um, or getting
[1:01:03]
the zero visibility plan done. That's
all part of that second uh, topic there.
[1:01:15]
Does anybody know if this community
infrastructure does it cover um water
[1:01:21]
pipes at all?
>> Water pipes.
[1:01:24]
» Yeah, I know there's sewer, but like the
water pipes, I've heard that they're in
[1:01:29]
pretty rough shape and especially in
some parts of town.
[1:01:35]
I think right now if we want to add in
the water infrastructure that would be a
[1:01:39]
new item to add. I mean
are we targeting that also separately or
[1:01:47]
do we want to include that in sewer
infrastructure?
[1:01:53]
» Do we have any idea of what the
significance I Chris would you know? Um,
[1:01:58]
I mean, I've heard just I don't know if
it's only sewer or if it's water and
[1:02:02]
sewer, but I've heard for like example
the point is in horrible shape with
[1:02:06]
plumbing and worst one of the worst
sections of town. I could be wrong, but
[1:02:10]
I'm just wondering does the town have an
idea um of the condition of the water
[1:02:16]
pipes versus the sewer. Is that is as
significant? because I know, you know,
[1:02:20]
with DEQ stuff, we've been pretty highly
focused on the wastewater treatment
[1:02:24]
plant. But I'm just I want to make sure
we don't skip over that when it could be
[1:02:28]
just as high priority, if not worse.
>> Just like our collection system for the
[1:02:32]
sewer, our water system is old and
outdated. It's there are sections of it
[1:02:38]
coming to the end of its life. Um I was
actually on a water leak last night
[1:02:42]
where the water line was
in horrible shape. It's probably going
[1:02:47]
to have to be replaced. Uh I don't know
how much of that's going to have to be
[1:02:50]
replaced, but the water system is
definitely worth investing in because
[1:02:55]
without that, you can't live in town. So
yes, we do have sections of town with
[1:03:01]
bad water pipes. Some are worse than
others. Some are manageable, some at
[1:03:06]
some point will no longer be manageable.
So I do agree that it would be
[1:03:09]
worthwhile to invest in the water
system. I do believe that it should be a
[1:03:13]
separate item from wastewater since it
is a completely different system and
[1:03:19]
target them independently. I don't know
what's out there for water systems, but
[1:03:24]
it's something we could probably look
into if that's council's desire.
[1:03:28]
» That's probably So, I'm sorry.
>> Oh, just one little quick follow on. Um,
[1:03:32]
when you're all out there, I know you
guys see everything because you're in
[1:03:35]
the ground and you have a sewer or water
leak and so I'm assuming you probably
[1:03:40]
see both pipes same time. They're
usually in a similar proximity. Are you
[1:03:45]
are you seeing one's in worse shape than
the other or are they pretty comparable?
[1:03:48]
They're both in pretty bad shape.
>> They're not necessarily adjacent to each
[1:03:55]
each other. Water does not need to have
the same depth as sewer. Sewer is
[1:03:59]
usually deeper because it has to have
gravity to get from point A to point B.
[1:04:03]
Sometimes we find them both, sometimes
we don't. Um,
[1:04:08]
I'm not going to say they're
equally as of an issue. Sewer has a
[1:04:15]
longer lasting effect on its issues with
the sewer pipes versus the water pipes
[1:04:19]
because it has more components that it
affects downstream from that issue. But
[1:04:26]
again, like I said, the water lines are
definitely worth investing into and need
[1:04:30]
to be updated and replaced due to their
age. Just like everywhere else in the
[1:04:34]
United States,
>> our infrastructure is aging out across
[1:04:38]
this entire country and it's something
that needs to be addressed.
[1:04:42]
» Okay. Thank you,
>> Madam.
[1:04:45]
» Yes, Mr. Wood.
>> Um,
[1:04:48]
is that something much like we did with
the sewer lines where we made what we
[1:04:53]
need to do quantifiable? Right. So, in
order to do testing and that sort of
[1:04:57]
thing, um, is that a process that we
should begin so that we can maybe put
[1:05:04]
that on our next legislative agenda
>> because we can't just say, well, fill
[1:05:10]
fill in some pipes for us, too. We don't
know how much we need.
[1:05:14]
» So, that's a that's a good point,
>> Mr. Wood. Um, so the reason we've been
[1:05:18]
able to be successful with the
wastewater treatment plant
[1:05:22]
um, applications, I mean a big part of
that is Senator Stewart to be honest
[1:05:27]
with you, but also what he needs in
order to be successful in Richmond is
[1:05:32]
quantifiable data. And so we have an
engineering report that lists exactly
[1:05:38]
everything that needs to be done and it
has prices estimated on it. And that
[1:05:43]
then is validating the request, right?
And when we go back and ask for I mean
[1:05:50]
it's still more than $13 million I think
that is still outstanding on that
[1:05:54]
engineering report we haven't done. So
there's still a lot to request and a lot
[1:05:58]
to validate getting requested. Um so the
same would be true if you want to be
[1:06:04]
successful in the water aspect and water
utility is that we have to build out the
[1:06:11]
case. Yeah, for it to be if you really
if you're really going after something,
[1:06:16]
um you've got to provide that level of
detail at that point. So, you can't just
[1:06:21]
say we we have old pipes and we want
them fixed. We got to get a little bit
[1:06:25]
further into it than that. Um but like
what happened with the environmental
[1:06:31]
resiliency and storm water piece, which
ultimately led to the North Beach
[1:06:34]
Shoreline project, is we got a grant by
putting that on here. We got a grant for
[1:06:39]
the resiliency plan, right, which came
from RAFT, which was also government
[1:06:44]
funded, federal, state, government
funded. So, um, that's a good example of
[1:06:50]
how that process plays out. Like you put
it on there maybe in a generic way, but
[1:06:55]
all you're really asking for at that
point is help in getting it planned and
[1:07:00]
help in getting the engineering study.
And then once you get that portion and
[1:07:04]
you successfully complete your study,
then you take the study and you go to
[1:07:08]
the next level of detail with it and ask
for more like implementation or a
[1:07:13]
project like North Beach. Now the
project is getting engineered. My next
[1:07:17]
our next step on North Beach will be to
ask for the money to to do it, right?
[1:07:21]
So, um I think we could add the water
system on here, but just kind of with
[1:07:27]
the context that what we're really the
reality of that is you're not going to
[1:07:31]
get all new water pipes if you were
successful in Richmond. You're going to
[1:07:34]
get and then you're going to get a plan.
Right. But not a bad idea to put it on
[1:07:40]
there. I'm just talking through the
process a little bit.
[1:07:43]
» Yeah. I mean, I definitely get what
you're all saying. So, and I agree with
[1:07:46]
your comments. It does make me a little
nervous that we don't really have a good
[1:07:50]
assessment of the condition because
that, you know, could be a problem in
[1:07:53]
the future. But, um, maybe maybe this
open this conversation maybe at some
[1:07:58]
point if it's not a legislative
priority, at least a some a study or
[1:08:02]
something in the future to figure out
what needs to go on with the the pipes,
[1:08:06]
the water pipes.
And I'm wondering what kind of money is
[1:08:10]
going to be available with all this the
lead and the other water quality testing
[1:08:15]
that's happening out there. I think
there we could see some things being
[1:08:19]
pushed at the very top levels
uh across the nation honestly on
[1:08:26]
investigating this because most we're
not abnormal in this. Most localities do
[1:08:31]
not have a good idea of the age of their
system or what's in the ground or where
[1:08:36]
where it's at. So, um, we kind of every
single locality is going to be asking
[1:08:42]
the same questions.
Um, so Mr. Alison, I think to your
[1:08:48]
point, Mr. Williams said, does that fit
under the community infrastructure piece
[1:08:52]
with the sidewalks, crosswalks, roadway
maintenance? I see that more like um
[1:08:58]
like visible safety and the water more
as an invisible
[1:09:07]
So, I would I would tend to say to
separate them, but that's a council
[1:09:12]
decision. If you will want to combine
them, you know, uh get lost.
[1:09:20]
» I think that would get lost in community
infrastructure. We ought to have a
[1:09:23]
separate line item if we're going to do
it. I know we're trying to keep this
[1:09:27]
concise. We don't want 15 items on the
list anymore. I get that. So, we'll have
[1:09:32]
to find the balance there.
Yeah, I think it should be separate. I
[1:09:36]
mean, we already have some backup for
community infrastructure in place. This
[1:09:41]
is water. We're doing fresh. This is
completely new. We need to start from
[1:09:45]
the very beginning. Whereas community
infrastructure, we have some plans and
[1:09:49]
other stuff already in place.
Okay, I'm seeing a good consensus on
[1:09:54]
that. Then I'm going to keep moving
forward. All right. on resiliency and
[1:10:01]
storm water. And I know we've had some
comments tonight, so I want to recognize
[1:10:05]
that. Um
uh again, we this is
[1:10:12]
worded in a brief way to then allow
um opportunity
[1:10:19]
to get more specific post this one quick
page. Right? So, this says funding for
[1:10:26]
erosion control, shoreline resiliency,
climate adaptation, and wildlife habitat
[1:10:31]
enhancement projects, as well as storm
water upgrades to reduce flooding,
[1:10:35]
improve drainage, and protect water
quality. I think we're hitting a lot of
[1:10:38]
points on that one sentence.
Um,
[1:10:44]
and we have been very successful in this
particular item, uh, in a lot of
[1:10:49]
different avenues.
um some unsuccessful but mostly I think
[1:10:54]
we've got some pretty good track record
on there and I know we have VIMS
[1:10:59]
shoreline projects on our CIP for Monroe
Bay Avenue that's eroding there and then
[1:11:05]
as well as the wildlife and habitat
issues that are coming up to highlight
[1:11:10]
that I think when we say habitat
enhancement projects or and we
[1:11:14]
specifically say the word wildlife
um if we want to take a stance in that
[1:11:19]
legislation I think this gives us a
strong point to do so if we decide to do
[1:11:25]
so as a body.
[1:11:30]
» So I agree. I don't want to
completely gloss over the comments from
[1:11:36]
uh Miss Millward on the Atlantic
Minhaden,
[1:11:41]
but it feels to me that maybe stuffing
that in this one might not be the the
[1:11:45]
most effective place. sort of like the
conversation we just had about the water
[1:11:48]
supply pipes and if not there then then
where if you agree that it doesn't go
[1:11:54]
there because it is an important topic
but it's not quite the same as it's not
[1:11:59]
community infrastructure at that point
sorry it's I mean it's not storm you
[1:12:03]
know community level you know
environmental stuff it's broad ecosystem
[1:12:09]
» I think we I think we can make a stance
on the menhaden issue with a direct
[1:12:14]
resolution to the mid-handed issue that
is specific and actionable and take that
[1:12:22]
on. Um, I think the priorities list, it
needs to be these umbrellas that are
[1:12:28]
kind of broad and generic, you know, but
if we want to tackle a stance on the
[1:12:32]
menhaden issue, I think we can do that
regardless of this and that actually
[1:12:37]
this could bolster that resolution, but
we can get hard-nosed in a very formal
[1:12:43]
resolution stance if that's an avenue we
want to take.
[1:12:46]
» I was going to say similar thing. I
think that's probably a better approach.
[1:12:51]
So, how do we put that on on the agenda
for something to get done later? Is that
[1:12:57]
that something we ask staff to look at
first? We want to pull in experts.
[1:13:01]
» Add Natasha to draft a resolution to it.
I think we need we'd probably just bring
[1:13:06]
it up at a work session and get an idea
of what our point is. Okay.
[1:13:11]
» Yeah.
[1:13:14]
Just as a quick question in regard to
the menhaden
[1:13:18]
point of view, we're going to I would
think have more success because what
[1:13:24]
we're doing is not asking for specific
funding for that. Where we're asking to
[1:13:31]
do is to have legislation towards that.
And where we're going to be more
[1:13:37]
successful is not the local colonial
beach going, "Hey, this is
[1:13:40]
unacceptable." If we're able to uh get
consensus among more municipalities
[1:13:49]
and then put it together that way as
opposed to what I don't want to do
[1:13:56]
not only Joanie but to the entire
situation is to do it a disservice by
[1:14:02]
tucking it away somewhere where it's not
going to be seen and not acted on. Does
[1:14:06]
that make sense?
The most similar instance I've seen of
[1:14:10]
that is the 2A movement where multiple
counties added in resolutions because of
[1:14:16]
the push in the 2A movement. And I think
that's probably a good example. I've
[1:14:22]
seen coalition of strong strength in
numbers
[1:14:26]
um just as far as the actual process of
that.
[1:14:30]
» What's 2A?
>> Uh the second amendment
[1:14:42]
So, I would I guess my point is to leave
the bullet point the same, but then if
[1:14:50]
we decide to tackle that issue to make
that specific.
[1:14:55]
» Yeah. Maybe address other localities
that are towards the Chesapeake Bay that
[1:15:00]
would be influenced or
>> helpful. uh we can use those as a
[1:15:06]
conjoining effort to do that.
>> Yeah, I actually wrote down while she
[1:15:11]
was talking that um to bring this up at
the mayor's institute at VML
[1:15:16]
uh because I think there'll be a lot of
other it's in Norfol this year and so
[1:15:20]
there'll be a lot of coastal
um communities at that conference. I'd
[1:15:25]
like to see what their stance is and
what they're doing about it and um you
[1:15:30]
know how it's being brought up in their
communities.
[1:15:33]
That's in October, guys. By the way, the
BM next BML um conference.
[1:15:40]
» Nope, you can't say anything. Thank you.
[1:15:47]
» All right. Um
moving forward, economic development and
[1:15:51]
tourism. These are um this is big for
our marina way initiative is through
[1:15:57]
this uh grant funds, BTC. some of the um
uh things like the love sign money or um
[1:16:06]
different
grants for promotional things. I think
[1:16:11]
we got a billboard a couple times. Um
stuff like that.
[1:16:16]
Uh I like the highlight on ecoourism.
Um but I don't want to discount all the
[1:16:22]
other
tourism initiatives by only hiding
[1:16:26]
highlighting ecoourism.
I'm just kind of opening that discussion
[1:16:31]
up.
[1:16:35]
» Yeah, I thought when I read it that if
we said anything, we'd just just say,
[1:16:39]
you know, tourism, you know, including
ecoourism.
[1:16:44]
And that's as far, you know, for the
same reason. We don't want to water down
[1:16:48]
the rest of the message with with a
single um
[1:16:53]
a single initiative or a single topic.
[1:17:00]
But if that goes too far, I mean, I'm
open to
[1:17:03]
» I'm fine with adding ecoourism and
tourism. I just think it's a little
[1:17:07]
repetitive, but I don't think it
>> either way.
[1:17:12]
» You don't think so? Not significant
enough.
[1:17:15]
» Okay.
[1:17:19]
» All right.
>> Not in this instance.
[1:17:21]
» In this particular instance.
And again, we do for the Osprey
[1:17:27]
Festival. I know the um both our
delegate and our senator have written
[1:17:32]
letters for the festival that we read in
the beginning and they appreciate it and
[1:17:36]
they've been very responsive to it. So,
I think we have strong legislative resp.
[1:17:42]
So, that's good. So, we can kind of
pledge our commitment, our continued
[1:17:45]
commitment in that way specifically.
And we did name the osprey the town
[1:17:52]
bird.
Okay.
[1:17:59]
Um, all right. Moving on forward. Local
access to healthcare. Um, we just
[1:18:05]
applied for the FEMA grant for along
with the Northern Eck planning district
[1:18:10]
commission for and the county of West
Morland for the new rescue squad
[1:18:15]
building on 700 Colonial Avenue.
[1:18:20]
It'll be months before we hear back.
said, "Don't wait on, you know, like
[1:18:24]
don't hold your breath yet." But, um, I
think that's an important one to keep on
[1:18:28]
here for our residents and and for our
community, not just for that particular
[1:18:33]
grant initiative, but also
when we get to broadband.
[1:18:39]
Um, one of the openings and
opportunities with broadband is now
[1:18:45]
teaalth and a teaalth kiosk in rural
communities.
[1:18:51]
And I'm don't have a ton of information
on this yet, but it's something else at
[1:18:54]
VML. I'm hoping to get a little bit more
info on that where we don't have we have
[1:19:00]
a real big lack in doctors and sometimes
also a lack in broadband. But if there's
[1:19:05]
a kiosk, a telealth kiosk maybe at a
rescue squad station or something like
[1:19:11]
that. I don't know. It's they're trying
to invent ways to use technology to to
[1:19:16]
help us.
[1:19:20]
I don't know.
[1:19:23]
[laughter]
[1:19:26]
» Um I don't know. I'm sort of just want
to say there is new technology coming in
[1:19:31]
this stuff and and I'm not sure where
it's going to go yet. Um
[1:19:38]
All right. So we keeping that one on
here.
[1:19:44]
» Yes. All right. There we go. All right.
Right. The required local match for
[1:19:48]
schools. So, this was on there because
the proportionate rate of the local
[1:19:52]
match was getting astronomical for small
communities especially. Um, this last
[1:19:58]
year we saw that balance out a little
bit. Um, part of that is because the
[1:20:03]
state cut funding to schools. So,
naturally, it cut our requirement to
[1:20:09]
fund schools.
[1:20:13]
» I mean, I'm just saying the truth.
That's what happened. It's also largely
[1:20:17]
due to projection a drop in the school
population, right? So the the multiplier
[1:20:22]
went down,
>> right, for the number of pupils. Yeah.
[1:20:26]
Yeah. But they still use a averaged
estimate, but yeah.
[1:20:33]
» So
>> do we leave this on here? Um I remember
[1:20:37]
I had spoken with um delegate Pew Kent
on this twice. she has a subcommittee at
[1:20:45]
the legislature um of four particularly
for rural school systems um related to
[1:20:51]
this. So if we want to continue working
in that avenue, it might be something
[1:20:56]
that I end up at a subcommittee meeting
for or Natasha does. If we don't want to
[1:21:01]
continue down that avenue, I will free
my calendar.
[1:21:06]
» I'm just asking for input, guys.
Do you all believe there's more juice to
[1:21:11]
to you know to squeeze from this?
>> I don't know.
[1:21:15]
Honestly, Tom, I don't know.
>> I if you know
[1:21:18]
» is that a no.
>> I said is that a no?
[1:21:21]
» I don't know.
>> I don't know.
[1:21:24]
» Yeah. I mean, I don't want we don't want
busy work, but
[1:21:28]
for years on end, we were getting scared
by the the rapid rise in the in the
[1:21:34]
local match. Well, I think as long as we
have some delegate of some sort that's
[1:21:39]
pushing for this agenda, I think it's
best that we keep it on there
[1:21:42]
specifically for our community where
that if there's availability for us to
[1:21:47]
save money in that avenue, we should
take full advantage of that because the
[1:21:51]
school system does hit us every year.
So, and our numbers are rising within
[1:21:58]
the school. They're not getting any
lower. And you know,
[1:22:03]
it's just going to be a fact of life.
So, if we can save money in any way we
[1:22:06]
can and there's someone there that's
pushing for this, I think we should keep
[1:22:10]
it on there.
>> Does anybody know if we got any feedback
[1:22:16]
last year and did anybody push for it? I
mean, yeah, I met with Hillary twice,
[1:22:21]
Delegate Kent twice about it, but um she
was given it was a struggle at the state
[1:22:27]
because the formula is this convoluted,
very specific, very comp complicated
[1:22:34]
formula and making any adjustments to it
isn't equitable across the board. And
[1:22:40]
actually some of the adjustments they
were proposing was going to make it
[1:22:43]
worse for small rural communities which
was really what stood her up to be
[1:22:50]
opposed to the changes to even though
she does wanted to change just how they
[1:22:54]
were changing it was actually going to
make it harder. So it's a very
[1:22:58]
complicated um
situation to tackle. I think she's we
[1:23:04]
both were learning about how how
difficult it is really to do. Um the
[1:23:11]
biggest point
when we're talking about this, it's not
[1:23:15]
so much that of of reducing funding to
our school system. It's that the state
[1:23:20]
was creating additional mandates,
all of these additional requirements and
[1:23:25]
then not funding them. And so they were
expecting how easy to sit in Richmond
[1:23:32]
and say you have to do these 10 new
things and you have to fund them and
[1:23:37]
mandating that to localities. So that's
where the unfairness portion of it was
[1:23:43]
coming from. Hey, you want all of these
additional things, then state, you've
[1:23:51]
decided this. You need to pay for it on
your side because it was creating local
[1:23:58]
dollar tax raises, but they were
statemandated
[1:24:03]
items,
and that was really the point of it. So,
[1:24:08]
because I could see that it could look
differently than that. Should should we
[1:24:12]
consider rewriting the language then
maybe uh that reflects more of that as
[1:24:18]
far as unfunded mandates or
>> I know just a thought.
[1:24:24]
» Yeah, that's a good point.
[1:24:27]
» It it feels like something we want to
continue to track because there's a lot
[1:24:30]
of risk there to to Mr. Ellison's point.
Well, I mean, if they hit us with
[1:24:36]
another half a million dollars,
that's that's a chunk, right? That we
[1:24:41]
got to try to figure out how to make
that work. And it's not always easy.
[1:24:46]
» Yeah. A half a million dollars is a 12
cent tax raise
[1:24:51]
for us.
[1:24:56]
So, that's the reality of it, right?
When the rubber meets the road.
[1:25:03]
Okay. So, we'll leave it on there. Maybe
reward it a little bit. Improve that.
[1:25:10]
David, I like that idea. You good with
it? Well, okay. All right. Last one
[1:25:17]
that's on the list right now is access
to broadband. Um,
[1:25:22]
uh, there has been some new traction in
this, uh, like I said with the healthc
[1:25:27]
care kiosk possibly. Um,
I don't know if this shouldn't get a
[1:25:34]
little bit more in general technology
related, but I'm also fine with leaving
[1:25:38]
it the way it is. I think there's some
new tech out there that we um may want
[1:25:45]
to go after.
But this does say teleaalth and
[1:25:49]
opportunities for education, workforce
development.
[1:25:56]
I mean ultimately is the problem not
that [clears throat]
[1:26:00]
that the people that run broadband the
Verizon FiOS you know of the world those
[1:26:05]
kind of things find it too expensive to
bring it this far from wherever their
[1:26:10]
next closest hub is and is there a way
to sort of advocate for some government
[1:26:17]
assistance to sort of entice the big
boys to bring the uh the fiber here
[1:26:22]
right that when I think about this.
That's what I think of. Is that a
[1:26:25]
realistic goal?
Well, is it
[1:26:31]
realistic? Is maybe going too far, but
is it um
[1:26:35]
am I thinking about it the right way?
>> I think for us it was um you know what
[1:26:40]
we currently have in terms of uh
internet. There's a monopoly, right? We
[1:26:46]
don't have any other options other than
the cable or you know some people have
[1:26:53]
Starlink and you know those things are
coming but there's a cost to those right
[1:26:57]
what we're trying to do is make the
internet we have today cheaper so if the
[1:27:02]
best way to do that is competition so
you know all points broadband that's
[1:27:07]
gone down through the county and those
areas where they now have both some of
[1:27:12]
that is a little bit easier to get cost
down you You know, I had a house that
[1:27:17]
was built for my daughter and I got
internet for $20 a month because they
[1:27:23]
were interested in doing a two-year
contract, no deal kind of thing. And I
[1:27:27]
was able to get a lot cheaper than your
standard $59.99 or $79.99 type package.
[1:27:33]
But I had the ability to say, "I'm not
going to go with you. I'm going with the
[1:27:36]
other." And that's when the price
dropped.
[1:27:39]
» Right. So, so the the question I'm
asking is is there are there things that
[1:27:42]
the state and federal government can do
to make it more likely that we get that
[1:27:46]
competition here.
>> Yes.
[1:27:48]
» What I think that would work against us
on that is the study that we had done
[1:27:54]
» that uh took a look at where we need to
even be to be standard.
[1:28:01]
Um, and so people are going to focus
more on getting us up to,
[1:28:07]
you know, borderline, I guess, as
opposed to being able to bring a higher
[1:28:13]
dollar service here. We don't have the
folks to do it.
[1:28:16]
» Well, we have the study results and
there's things we can do with those
[1:28:21]
study results. So to
um the point I kind of about the
[1:28:28]
community infrastructure point before is
once you have a study then you have the
[1:28:33]
data that they need sometimes to
actually lift off the ground. So having
[1:28:38]
that makes me think we need to keep it
on here because if something comes
[1:28:42]
available we may be able to use that
data to our advantage. But to me it's
[1:28:46]
not just affordability but also
reliability. We had a major responses
[1:28:53]
from the initial survey which was you
know a very poorly done survey by myself
[1:28:59]
I think but it was the major response
was the reliability. It's dropping out
[1:29:04]
all the time. I can't do my you know
cashier checkouts because I'm losing
[1:29:11]
vendor business because I can't get
somebody's credit card to swipe. Things
[1:29:14]
like that. So, um I think in that it's
it's competition. It's also putting
[1:29:22]
breeze lines nose to the grind a little
bit and saying you're not meeting the
[1:29:28]
standard and we're going to hold you
accountable to it. But I I guess and
[1:29:32]
perhaps I had a misconception of it, but
my thought would be that they would
[1:29:37]
focus more on getting this to where it's
reliable as opposed to having more
[1:29:43]
competition.
>> Yes, both. I think
[1:29:47]
» well, new lines would certainly make it
more reliable. I mean, the other stuff's
[1:29:51]
been here for 30 years.
>> Understand? But where are the new lines
[1:29:55]
coming from?
>> So, where are the new customers coming
[1:29:58]
from?
>> Right. So like right now it's going down
[1:30:01]
through like Longfield Road and going
towards the county.
[1:30:05]
» So they would just have to come back
down 205 to provide those additional
[1:30:10]
lines.
>> The the
[1:30:12]
» he's talking about tracking all access,
right?
[1:30:15]
» All points broadband. Yeah.
>> But see, they weren't contracted to come
[1:30:19]
this way because they were doing they
were the grants and stuff were for
[1:30:23]
specific areas that did not have any
>> uh internet at all. And that was the
[1:30:28]
initiative Senator Stewart and all those
went to Richmond and said, you know, we
[1:30:32]
got to make sure that everybody has
access. And they they did that.
[1:30:36]
» Now, the flip side of that is, you know,
if the Verizon tower
[1:30:41]
» gets put up and they bring in cable, I
mean, they could definitely pull in
[1:30:46]
cable that way or just give us the
little pods for 5G or whatever.
[1:30:51]
» Yeah. there could be your competition
and that could, you know, next year or
[1:30:56]
the year after whenever that happens
could be remove that off of there.
[1:30:59]
» I think in the next two years we're
going to see a lot of changes on this
[1:31:02]
item. I think we're going to see a lot
of things I can't even forecast right
[1:31:06]
now.
>> Well, in all fairness, just the
[1:31:09]
competition of T-Mobile having the 5G
available here,
[1:31:13]
» I was able to use that. I didn't want to
go to a 5G network, but um I was able to
[1:31:20]
use that to negotiate
my cable provider down to
[1:31:29]
» Yeah. Okay. So, I'm kind of saying let's
leave it
[1:31:34]
unless I'm hearing something else from
people.
[1:31:37]
» Yeah. I think it's sort of like the
required local match. We want to leave
[1:31:40]
it there for visibility and to prove
that we still care about it even if we
[1:31:44]
don't know exactly what we want right
now.
[1:31:47]
» Yeah, we may have to pair with what's
out there too. All right. And then I'm
[1:31:51]
saying I have noted here to add the
waterline system, waterline utility
[1:31:56]
system as an additional item on here.
And um and I think the probably the
[1:32:03]
action requested will be similar to the
wastewater treatment but just pertaining
[1:32:07]
to water,
[1:32:11]
drinking water. Yes. All right.
>> Sounds good.
[1:32:14]
» All right. Anything else to this? That's
now eight. We've gone back up from seven
[1:32:18]
to eight.
[1:32:25]
» I'm sorry. Did you say drinking water or
storm water?
[1:32:29]
» Drinking water.
>> Well, potable water. Yeah. And so then,
[1:32:37]
um, Natasha will bring this back at our
next meeting in September for final
[1:32:41]
approval.
Any other comments then before we
[1:32:47]
Okay.
The only only comment I would have is if
[1:32:52]
we can look at any potential items that
are that we're targeting and Richmond
[1:32:58]
has verbiage to align the verbiage as
close as possible.
[1:33:04]
You know,
>> I mean, we do that in propo proposals or
[1:33:08]
grants or anything like that. You want
to kind of make it look like they wrote
[1:33:11]
it. Oh, that fits perfectly.
[1:33:15]
» Yeah, we'll optimize it. Um,
>> okay.
[1:33:23]
» All right. With that, we So, we'll we
vote on that at the next at the
[1:33:28]
September meeting. And with that, we
going into closed meetings. So, I move
[1:33:33]
that the town council of the town of
Columbia Beach, Virginia, convene in
[1:33:36]
closed meeting for the following purpose
and to discuss the following subjects,
[1:33:39]
all of which are exempt by Virginia law
from public meeting requirements as
[1:33:42]
indicated. Namely, pursuant to Virginia
Code section 2.2-371, 2-3711A7
[1:33:47]
for the purpose of consultation with
legal counsel and briefings by staff
[1:33:50]
members or consultants pertaining to
actual or probable litigation where such
[1:33:54]
consultation or briefing and open
meeting would adversely affect the
[1:33:57]
negotiating or litigating posture of the
town council and pursuant to Virginia
[1:34:01]
code section 2.2-3711A88
for the purpose of consultation with
[1:34:05]
legal counsel retained by the town
council regarding specific legal matters
[1:34:08]
requiring the provision of legal advice
by such counsel. And with that, we'll uh
[1:34:13]
go into close session right after a
fivem minute recess.
[1:34:16]
» Were you an auctioneer from the previous
[1:59:57]
public business matters lawfully
exempted from open meeting requirements
[2:00:00]
under the Virginia Freedom of
Information Act and only such public
[2:00:02]
business matters as were identified in
the motion by which the closed meeting
[2:00:05]
was convened were heard discussed or
considered in the meeting by councel. I
[2:00:09]
need a motion.
>> So move.
[2:00:10]
» I need a second. I need an individual
certification.
[2:00:13]
» I certify.
>> I say certify.
[2:00:15]
» I so certify.
>> I certify. I so certify.
[2:00:18]
» I so certify. And with that, we will
adjourn tonight's meeting at 8 o'clock.