[7:31] I can become a

[7:43] winner. Everyone, welcome to the e-commerce city council meetings, September 1st,

[7:47] 0.26, 7 p.m. 705 p.m. be a known at the city council city council meeting for regular

[7:53] meeting. The council chambers, 402, South Seguine, Tuesday, September 1st, 0.26, and the

[7:59] informal and commission, maybe present, building standards, parks and recreation at this

[8:04] review board, economic development corporation, the planning and zoning meeting, stream live

[8:09] at www.conversiax.gov. Please silence our cellphones, call me nor at the time. Please write for

[8:16] the invocation. You see me presented by Councilman, CC Adam, Senior.

[8:22] That's right.

[8:26] Godfather is because of you that we're all here tonight and we just thank you so

[8:30] much for that. Father, we thank you so much for giving us life and giving us the ability to come

[8:34] out and make a difference in our world. Father, continue to touch us, touch us and keep us touch our families

[8:40] and keep them. We should be with Council tonight and city employees and staff that we're doing

[8:46] and say the right things for our citizens and our community. Help us make those wise decision.

[8:51] That would affect not only our households but they would I think keep us in the Sun's name,

[8:57] we pray on that.

[9:28] Thank

[9:46] you for joining us this evening for the record all council members are present like take a moment to introduce to you the

[9:54] emergency, you can't fool to my right for sending it beyond.

[9:57] Good evening, everyone.

[9:58] Thank you for coming out.

[10:00] Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening.

[10:05] To my last stage, the atoms. Hello, everyone. Thank you for being with us tonight.

[10:09] Deputy Gonzales. Good evening. Welcome everyone.

[10:13] Renee Pashel. Good evening.

[10:16] I'm out for us. Thank you for joining us.

[10:18] We begin the meeting with the citizens to be heard.

[10:23] Item five, this time provided for citizens to address the counseling issues concerns.

[10:27] I remember the public wishing to address the Council on the sign up to speak.

[10:31] Prior to the start of the meeting, I'll see the Council discussion, or I should be taking

[10:34] up the items on the agenda.

[10:36] Please, limit your marks for your minutes, each name and address the record.

[10:39] No personal tasks I'll be allowed.

[10:42] We have a meeting, Catherine, on-sourge.

[11:02] We'll get to the meeting.

[11:07] Catherine, on-as-ourge, 505 gale circle.

[11:11] And I'm here to speak about, I guess, cars left on the street that aren't being used.

[11:21] They just sit there months and months.

[11:24] The street sweeper has to go around them.

[11:26] It's bad enough.

[11:27] It's got the garbage cans.

[11:28] But he's got to go around all these cars.

[11:30] And you can see the marks on the road where they have been moved in months.

[11:34] My neighborhood now got a few of them.

[11:37] But I mainly came here because they're on my street.

[11:40] which I usually complain about anything on my street, which is Gail Circle.

[11:44] There's been two that have been sitting there, one for two, two plus months,

[11:49] and then a band that joined him that's been there for two weeks.

[11:53] And they don't move, they just sit there.

[11:55] And I spoke to the police chief about why he hasn't anybody come out and checked.

[12:01] And seeing he said there's nothing they can do, which I don't, that's not right.

[12:06] I handed out a thing there that said, you know, you cannot

[12:09] in Congress leading a vehicle park continuously on a public street for more than 72 hours is unlawful unless science, street markings or traffic maps explicitly permit longer parking.

[12:23] Doesn't seem anything about having to be registered or whatever the word is.

[12:27] It's just they can't sit there, you got to move them and then bring them back.

[12:30] But there's so many in my neighborhood because it's an old neighborhood that there's seven

[12:36] or eight cars in front of a house,

[12:41] and so some of them move, some of them don't, and

[12:45] it gets to be kind of hard to come down a far truck, couldn't even come down, and Brenda,

[12:49] right now at night, because they're on both sides, and there's no way to get a far truck

[12:53] to make that turn to come in.

[12:56] So, I already spoke to him, but I'd like to be here because I don't know if you have trouble with that.

[13:03] But in my neighborhood, there's so many cars that are just being stored.

[13:06] If you're going to store them on our streets, pay for it.

[13:10] That's all I said. You can leave them there if you want, but you're going to pay the city to leave them there.

[13:15] If you're not going to get storage somewhere else, that's all I have to say.

[13:21] Thank you.

[13:21] Please check into that.

[13:31] Okay, I conclude us.

[13:32] This is the rehearsing.

[13:34] We begin.

[13:34] We can send a gender item six ABC and D in the council members.

[13:38] Have a question.

[13:40] A to D.

[13:41] If not, do we have a motion?

[13:42] I make a motion.

[13:43] We approve.

[13:44] Just imagine that item six.

[13:45] That's presented.

[13:47] A second.

[13:48] On favor say aye.

[13:50] Post say no.

[13:52] Motion carries.

[13:53] Thank you.

[13:55] Item seven.

[13:56] A public hearing.

[13:56] proposed at Valorant Taxree for fiscal year 2026-27 city budget. He won't wish him to speak

[14:03] and I am APEAN's come forward stage name mattress for the record. I'm here at 7A and I will

[14:11] open at 712.

[15:01] Okay, public hearing is not closed, 713, item B, public hearing is proposed fiscal year 2627, city budget, anyone wishing to come and comment on the public hearing of the closed city budgets to come forward,

[15:17] H&M address for the record, public hearing and now open at 7.13.

[15:56] Public hearing, item 7 and B is not closed, 7.14.

[16:01] Item 7, C, public hearing, a request to resume 24.5 VA,

[16:06] the property located at the southwest corner of where

[16:08] Sigean Road and Bane.

[16:09] Drive part of property with property ID number 619038

[16:14] from our six single family district to B2.

[16:17] We tow district.

[16:18] one wishing to speak on item 7, C please come forward, 6th name and address for the record.

[16:23] Holding here is now open 7.14.

[16:49] All right, Richard, if you're 6901, I believe shirts text it.

[16:55] Which butts right up to Boeing road at where this is being proposed.

[17:01] So this is retail district, but that's not what the science had.

[17:05] The science had storage.

[17:07] So, my main concern is, when you say storage, I don't want it in my backyard to have a data

[17:16] storage facility, and this has retail district, but on the signs that are out there that

[17:22] was posted, it says storage facility.

[17:26] So I just wanted the language to be specific, and I'm not sure how commerce feels about

[17:33] data stores storage in their communities, but I would like not to see one in my back here.

[17:41] That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

[17:56] Thank you. Public hearing is now closed at 716.

[18:05] Item D public hearing on a special use permit request for a 24.538

[18:11] your property located south with corner of where's the gain road and vain

[18:15] drive part of the property with property ID 619103A for the use of storage

[18:21] warehouse and storage and you want to wish to speak an item 7D

[18:26] import each name address to the record probably here is now open at 716

[18:34] it's the same thing so one is addressing one thing and the other one is asking

[18:38] for specials for that answer to your question right there

[19:07] To this time public hearing, 7D, and I'll close with 717.

[19:16] We move to item 8A, full business discussion, and probably actually consider ordinance

[19:20] number 102, 2026 in order to establishing an active and continuing program to be administered

[19:26] by the record management officer, second reading, second reading manager, city secretary.

[19:36] Good evening, everyone.

[19:38] Samantha Lee, city secretary, this is just the second reading of the ordinance that establishes

[19:43] record management policy that y'all reviewed at the last meeting. I stand for any questions.

[19:49] Questions anyone? Any more to add to your question?

[19:55] Nope. Uh, nothing.

[19:58] Okay, thank you.

[20:00] Okay, no discussions, there are motion, item 8A.

[20:03] I'd like to make a motion to approve item 8A, aye.

[20:06] Second.

[20:09] On favor, say aye.

[20:11] Aye.

[20:11] Post say no.

[20:13] Motion carries.

[20:14] Thank you.

[20:23] Item 8B.

[20:26] Decision of program action on ordinance 72326, an ordinance to see

[20:30] Converse text of the M&D, the code of ordinances, chapter 10, article 4, by adding

[20:34] section named short-term rentals, providing for findings of the fact, cumulative costs,

[20:40] their ability penalties and effective date, second reading, same measure, community,

[20:45] development director.

[20:47] Good evening, Mayor and Council.

[20:48] I'm Henry Cowish, the Development Services Director.

[20:51] This item, you'll heard, at the last meeting, the establishes regulations for short-term

[20:57] rentals, establishes health requirements and

[21:04] inspection requirements, as well as annual registration

[21:07] by standby for any questions.

[21:11] Questions to be careful?

[21:18] Okay, a little discussion.

[21:19] There are motion and item 8D.

[21:21] Make a motion to approve item 8D?

[21:23] That's approved.

[21:27] My second.

[21:28] On favorite CI?

[21:30] Okay.

[21:31] Post say no.

[21:33] Motion carries.

[21:35] Thank you.

[21:36] Item C.

[21:37] The discussion for reaction orders number 617-2026.

[21:40] to the Congress, Texas and the Mending Chapter 50 by Mending Section 50-138-254 regarding short-term rentals and providing for fact.

[21:51] Finally, the fact included in the class, the ability to channel season effect today.

[21:56] The second reading committee development directors.

[22:00] This is a supplementary ordinance that references the pre-gis ordinance.

[22:06] Number 723, it just adds reference to that ordinance in our zoning code in the residential districts.

[22:14] It all adds as one line referencing that nearly passed ordinance.

[22:19] I stand by for any questions.

[22:21] Questions, anyone?

[22:25] No questions, especially if you're a motion item.

[22:29] See?

[22:29] I make the motion to approve item eight.

[22:32] Has presented?

[22:33] I'll second.

[22:36] All in favor say aye.

[22:38] Aye.

[22:38] I would say no.

[22:41] Motion carries.

[22:43] Thank you.

[22:44] Item 8.

[22:45] The discussion and probably actually consider ordinance number 5, 10, 20, 20, 26.

[22:49] The ordinance and the city commerce Texas code of ordinance is chapter 14.

[22:54] Court to amend article 2, section 14.20.

[22:57] To give the municipal court auger is takes you granted by 29.003.

[23:02] The government code and providing for finance.

[23:04] of fact, a cumulative 12-severability and effective date, second reading, see, manager.

[23:11] The city attorneys can handle this one again for the second reading.

[23:15] This was brought to you last time regarding updating the courts authority so you can actually

[23:20] utilize its full spectrum and that's really all this is.

[23:24] Questions?

[23:28] Questions?

[23:29] Is there a motion in the 90?

[23:31] I'd like to make a motion to approve item 80 as presented?

[23:34] I'd second.

[23:35] All in favor say aye.

[23:37] Aye.

[23:38] Aye.

[23:38] Post say no.

[23:41] Motion carries.

[23:42] Thank you.

[23:46] Item 98.

[23:47] Discussion in the program action on resolution number 69 or 0.27.

[23:51] Resolution provided a city commerce program of services budget for the fiscal year.

[23:56] Beginning October 1, 2026.

[23:58] Ending September 30, 2027.

[24:00] By approving and setting aside the necessary funds city

[24:03] Congress for the fiscal year, 2026.

[24:06] we set up for the maintenance and operations of the various departments, capital projects,

[24:11] payments for debt, certainly for various activities and services to the city, city manager.

[24:16] Yes, thank you, Mayor and Council. I want to thank you for all your guidance at the last

[24:21] budget workshop. It was very helpful and I'm going to present the changes that I incorporated from

[24:28] advice and suggestions and my recommendations to update you. So this is an updated version of

[24:36] the one that you've seen for the proceeding couple budget workshops. There's not a lot of changes,

[24:42] so this won't take long. Okay, the total revenue, and I'll get to why it went up in a little bit,

[24:55] For this current year, it's 22,774,000, so that is an increase.

[25:00] 1.9 million. I will get to what we got there quickly. Okay, I do want to remind everybody. Our total assessed property value did do decrease by 69 million. Okay, have alarm tax.

[25:17] You know, our current tax rate is 46.5. The no new revenue is really 48.3. The rate we did in the prior proposed budgets before today was 48.8.

[25:30] And the proposed rate that was advertised, that the council chose to advertise is 51.57.

[25:38] And that is what is used in today's proposed budget draft in front of you.

[25:42] And the voter approval rate was a little bit over that.

[25:47] Okay.

[25:48] And the assistant tax rate impact on the citizens.

[25:51] This is a real quick comparison to show between the current 46.5 and the 51.57 tax rate.

[25:59] So I have a couple of examples here of home values.

[26:03] I just subtracted the standard home

[26:07] of stat exemption.

[26:09] And remember this is just city tax rate, not all the tax rates

[26:11] that come on a bill, somebody's bill,

[26:13] but just for the city tax rate.

[26:15] So somebody currently in this scenario pays $907,

[26:19] on $195,000 taxable value.

[26:23] It would go at $99 by going up to $51.57.

[26:27] And this is the average home value in the city.

[26:32] That's why I put the 220, 220,000 at difference is 109.

[26:38] And then I did 250,000, which is $124 different

[26:44] on an annual basis.

[26:46] And 300,000 is $150 over year.

[26:51] And 350 is 175.

[26:53] Sorry, there's one more.

[26:55] So that just shows you the widest margin between the current and the proposed.

[27:01] Okay, capital expenditures requested.

[27:04] We talked about this in the last meeting, so you also have a handout in front of you.

[27:08] The updated, well, all I did was highlight what I have here on the thing.

[27:12] So these are the actual capital expenditure requests that in all prior budgets,

[27:18] drafts were not included, none of this was included.

[27:22] So, based on the discussion at the last meeting, I did add an ambulance remount of $350,000.

[27:33] This will be the second year in a row of an ambulance remount.

[27:36] And also added the important breathing apparatus.

[27:39] So, those two items in yellow come to $750,000, 3.4 million.

[27:44] And then we have vehicles for the police six.

[27:47] That's a lease program.

[27:49] That's 190,000.

[27:51] And then I added back in the park sidewalks at $150,000.

[27:57] And I did not highlight the utility service truck,

[27:59] but the utility fund is going to buy a new truck

[28:04] and do the hand me down version to public works.

[28:10] And that vehicle is a lot newer than the 1993 version we saw pictures of.

[28:16] So in essence they will get the new vehicle,

[28:19] But I didn't highlight that because I didn't add that as a direct appropriation from the general fund.

[28:24] So these things all add up to 1,090,000.

[28:29] These items right here.

[28:32] So remember the budget when I showed you the first slide was 1.9 million more than the last proposed budget.

[28:39] So here we have 1,090,000 of that 1.9 million.

[28:49] So I'm going to sort of just wrap up all my final recommendations here, is adopt the 51.57 tax rate,

[28:56] which did bring in a judicial 759,000.

[29:01] And that would be for merit raises, which would be an average of 5% salary increase.

[29:08] And also to use a portion of the general fund balance for some requested capital expenditures,

[29:15] Those are the items that just covered on the previous slide, okay?

[29:23] So, and so revenue went up by 1.9 million proposed budget over proposed budget.

[29:30] There was two items that equal that.

[29:32] There's basically the tax rate increase which brings in $750,000 and I'm rounding a little bit here.

[29:39] $750,000 and the general fund balance which is being brought over at $1,000,000, so that's where you get your 1.9 million increase in revenue

[29:50] and your increase in expenditures is for the salary increase and the capital items I just went over.

[29:57] Okay, so two items of increased revenue.

[30:00] And two items of increased expenses that need to match each other. And then, of course, continue.

[30:06] We talked about this use of the Times Square apartment fund balance only for the via replacement.

[30:13] And then, we have the next steps, which is a public hearing on the proposed tax rate budget, which is today, which we've accomplished.

[30:21] And then, we had ratifying adopt the budget and adopt the tax rate at the September 15 meeting.

[30:26] I understand you could adopt the resolution if you so choose for the budget today, but you have

[30:31] to come back and ratify that on the 15th and it passed the tax rate on the 15th.

[30:37] So I know that was a lot, I'm just going to summarize.

[30:40] So between the proposed budget that you saw for many, a couple weeks, several weeks,

[30:45] and this one went up by $1.9 million.

[30:48] And the revenue for that was the increase on the tax rate brings in $750,000.

[30:54] and we brought up 1 million, a little over 1 million, 1 million, 90,000

[30:59] over from the general fund, those two combined to equal that 1.9.

[31:04] The expenditures for that is the 5% pay raise average for the merit

[31:09] and those capital expenditures items that are highlighted in yellow.

[31:14] 750,000 for the fire department for two items, 190,000,

[31:19] I believe for the six police cards and then $150,000 for the park sidewalk replacement.

[31:30] So that's to match up the 1.9 difference.

[31:35] I know you probably have some questions.

[31:36] Do you have any questions at the time?

[31:38] Yeah, I'll start.

[31:39] I just wish that I would've got all this information last week.

[31:42] This is a lot to be able to prove it all in one night.

[31:46] absorb it, and I have a question, what is the 51-5, what is it, what is the yield extra?

[31:55] About 750.

[31:59] Are you aware?

[32:01] Hey, ladies.

[32:02] The stock theory.

[32:03] Are you aware that it's 2324?

[32:05] I'm going to tell you that that's 3 years.

[32:08] 2324.

[32:09] We spent 980,000, 922, 8% of the year that was 8% pay-ways in the K.

[32:17] 2024, we gave them another 8% pay-ways, so that's 974, that's almost 2,000, we spent the

[32:29] stays in the budget forever, and then you add to the benefits.

[32:32] And then last year, we gave a six, slash three percent depending on where you were at.

[32:39] So total for the last three years, the pay rates have been 2,244,000 to me.

[32:48] That's a lot.

[32:49] And it's 22 percent.

[32:51] Everybody got 22 percent boost on their pay.

[32:54] Depending on what you felt, you got 19.

[32:56] So 2019, because that last year, we did 63.

[32:59] If we go with five, we're hitting 27 percent of 24 percent now, you know, to me, that's

[33:07] a lot, you know, and we're hitting two million, 1948, it's hitting our budgets that save

[33:14] their forever and then you had to benefit, so we're just under three million, we spent

[33:18] the last four years of pay rate, you know, to me, that's too much, you know, considering

[33:27] In fact, that we have a lot.

[33:30] We can't, you know, capital privilege, because that's

[33:32] why, you know, because of this.

[33:33] That's what's called this, we follow in in the same

[33:36] footsteps of Justin and I as a D with A.

[33:39] They did the same thing with their employees.

[33:41] And then they got shortfall by the state.

[33:43] They just like we're going to get shortfall,

[33:45] with self-tax and that round them.

[33:47] And then they got in trouble the same way, you know.

[33:52] It's the same picture, you know.

[33:54] So that's my concern.

[33:55] I'm not against giving a 2%, but I don't prefer to give it as a cola.

[34:02] In other words, cost a living because it's the way the economy is.

[34:07] You know, yeah, we're giving them a lot in the last three years, but 2% of the cola would be the right thing to do at this point for me anyway.

[34:16] Because the gas has gone up, food, you know, $100 or what the food you don't get very much these days,

[34:22] to be on HB or in all fairness, the other stores.

[34:27] So the Cola's in need, but it has to be given

[34:29] across the board and not merit if you work here,

[34:34] that should be good enough to get the 2% to this cola for me.

[34:39] And I would have loved to see, for me,

[34:43] I would have loved to see a Coke appliance officer

[34:46] because the officer, the survivor came up here,

[34:49] and we asked him why he couldn't do this job at all.

[34:51] We're short of many, so my response was we can't fall from if you don't have the resources.

[35:00] I would have a lot of the scene, a co-governmental officer, and then public works. All the issues with public works.

[35:07] You know, I know that some of their, some of their, we've done this in the past or my experience, they do see their issues are seasonal.

[35:15] The grass, it rains, and also in the grass, we'll grow fast. You don't want to hire people, but we didn't have the past, we hired our time people.

[35:25] We gave them, we've given departments like two, two, three hard times.

[35:32] In this case, I would love to see two hard time public works and employees to take care of all these issues.

[35:38] And then the police department, with all the growth and crime dealing with, you can't get everybody.

[35:47] Well, there's a starting point, as we always done here.

[35:50] I would have given them one patrol officer, a lot of extra money, it's given the 5% out of

[35:56] the given patrol officer.

[35:58] The same thing in firefighter, I would have given one firefighter, so that everybody's

[36:01] covered slowly.

[36:03] You know, starting point, we build it and then every year we can do that, you know, with the

[36:07] extra.

[36:09] And then I'm much sure it's served for you using one million ninety thousand to pay for

[36:15] those capital items.

[36:16] Okay, see, I'm good with that.

[36:18] I'm good with the reserves.

[36:19] I just wish I would add this priding, not tonight, but I'd either do the door, you know.

[36:27] So big decision we make here, you know, and the more time we get the better off we are.

[36:34] So we don't make those bottom states that are the cities for government entities made.

[36:40] And so that's my take on the pay.

[36:43] never saying that they don't deserve a saying is this we've given a lot, you know, and, and, you know, 22%

[36:52] I spent 21 years in a military. I don't think I ever hit that much period, but I didn't go in it for the money.

[36:58] You know, it's almost okay with that. But I'm thinking about what for the county, I never saw 22%.

[37:04] You know, that alone, you know, a 23 year, that worked total. I never saw that much, maybe 10.

[37:11] You know, it's just gonna, we read generous, you know, and then yeah, maybe they're deserving but we have to be a stopping point because we have other priorities, we have capital improvements.

[37:24] He's in the same as great, but like he said earlier, I don't want to use it all because my head is probably going to have it falling and see if he's been 5% because you're going to have to navigate all that.

[37:33] 5% to pay, and then with benefits, we're going to be higher, and then we're going to be in the same bowl next year after he's savings.

[37:42] And that's my experience as well, it's the same thing again.

[37:45] So that's my take on that.

[37:48] You know, based on my comments last time that we had it,

[37:54] I wanted to use the extra money because we're not a bank,

[37:59] And we shouldn't, we shouldn't, when you have eight million odds in the bank and you're taxing the residents and to get pay raises, that's not good.

[38:11] Unless you have to, you should, but in this case, we can, but maybe not, not 5% trade across, maybe a colon still.

[38:22] So that's my take. Who's next?

[38:26] I'll just add some commentary back to that, if we, there was, we did discuss last time

[38:34] about adding some people, those would have to be paid out of that 750,000, so that would

[38:41] erode any text, we couldn't even get all those people they mentioned Mayor in there for 750,

[38:47] so and we do want to stay competitive and I know new two cities are the same, but in this

[38:54] We're always competing against everybody in the San Antonio Metroplex area and I wasn't here when the two eight percent

[39:01] But it sounds like the city at that time was so far behind. That's why they play catch up. We slowed it down a little bit last year

[39:07] And then this year five's a little bit less and or close to what it was last year

[39:12] But I want to stay competitive and not

[39:14] being a situation where we're behind again

[39:18] We're already behind our competitors and other departments and you can pick any department where there's fire police or public works

[39:25] So the five will keep us competitive.

[39:28] We say every year, you see the matters come up here.

[39:31] And we are.

[39:32] And where we are, it's just the cards we've been dealt when you're ever going to major

[39:36] Metroplex, you know, the cities and Dallas are all competing against you.

[39:40] They're Houston, San Antonio, around Austin, so.

[39:44] So the reason I put the five percent in there, which is a meritorous and an average, is

[39:49] to stay competitive.

[39:50] And I don't believe we need a new code enforcement officer.

[39:55] I think there's other changes we can do to improve there.

[39:59] And the chief and I have already talked.

[40:00] We have to discuss some of those, but I'd like to start smaller. I don't think the answer is just add another body. I'd like to see some changes in the department and how it's run.

[40:11] And also to start out small where maybe we take an employee and work one day a week in a month and let's see what it looks like on the weekend.

[40:17] Because if we don't really need an employee for tall grass on the weekend, that tall grass is there a Monday through Friday and should be identified.

[40:25] It didn't pop up on the weekend when we need somebody.

[40:27] Now, if there's somebody doing garage sale permits on the weekend without a permit or garage sale, that would be something it could be caught.

[40:33] But we also want to invest some technological improvements with radio and body cameras with the before we let those employees come in and work on the weekend.

[40:43] So, I think there's some things we can do before we just jump to adding another employee for code enforcement.

[40:48] Well, my thing is I'm getting hit by citizens. I've told you many times, the intersection of Kitty Hawk, women trail,

[40:55] I mentioned that at six months ago, nothing's been done.

[40:59] Okay, the grass is still, that corner is still high.

[41:02] And I even joked the wrongs today.

[41:03] They must have an exemption or waiver for grass

[41:06] because nothing ever gets done.

[41:07] I told you, community director that, you know, everybody laughed.

[41:12] It still hasn't been done to this day.

[41:14] Well, six months ago.

[41:16] Then that's a process I need to get involved with.

[41:18] You know, somebody do it.

[41:19] With that department head and correct that,

[41:22] as opposed to hire another person.

[41:23] Yeah. Well, I have to meet to me if you hand it off to the supervisor. He only has some

[41:31] main bodies. That's why I get that response.

[41:36] Okay. Who's next?

[41:38] I'll go next. Mr. Farmer, when I met with you and Nemo, that was one of the things that

[41:45] you all said to me, is that yes, public works was undermanned. So in this budget, and I was

[41:53] asking on at the last budget workshop,

[41:57] can personnel is personnel included in this particular

[42:04] budget for the next year.

[42:08] When I spoke with Nemo, I would love to call him by his last name, but I can't remember it.

[42:16] When I spoke with him, he said, you know, we only have a certain number of people, and that

[42:22] As a reason why we cannot get all of the areas in conference that need to be attended to.

[42:30] Does this budget can this budget with a reduction in the pay raise?

[42:36] Can that pay for the suggestion that the mayor is asking?

[42:41] Can that pay for two part-time people?

[42:47] Yes, so talking with Nemo and the financial director, I think when we get into the summer

[42:52] time or close to the summertime. There will be money in there that will be unused that we can

[42:58] possibly use to hire a couple of part-timers because that is not a huge expense. But instead

[43:04] of putting those in there right now and taking it away from the pay raises, I decided let's

[43:08] look at that in the spring when we get closer to the need and reassess than. But there are some

[43:14] things we can do and maybe his budget where we can afford those people at that time.

[43:19] Well, I don't want to rain on the parade of the employees and them receiving a pay raise.

[43:26] But I want to piggyback off of something that the mayor just said.

[43:30] I work professionally 36 years as an educator.

[43:34] I never received that kind of a raise.

[43:36] In 36 years, I received one raise.

[43:40] In the industry of education, I considered that one of the poor professions, because we're

[43:46] lower men on the totem pole.

[43:48] And I never received the kind of rays

[43:50] that this particular budget is recommending.

[43:58] Lucky them.

[43:59] Yes, and I know apples and oranges,

[44:02] it's two different things from a school district,

[44:05] and in competition,

[44:05] but we have competition with our employees.

[44:07] They can easily go over to shirts.

[44:09] They can go to live home.

[44:10] They can go across town to castle hills.

[44:11] And they always have.

[44:12] Yeah.

[44:13] And they still have?

[44:14] And so we've been truth well not been here with everybody and I know you're always going to have a

[44:19] Trishon people leave for different reasons maybe not even pay they just want to move to a different state to be close to family

[44:23] There's all kinds of examples we can give but I you know

[44:27] It's important that we stay competitive and not lose the good employees we have because simply

[44:31] We're one of the lowest paying in the area and I know my predecessor and the council

[44:39] prior councils gave the two 8% but in a row but that was because we were

[44:44] woefully behind before that and I just hate to see us get farther behind by

[44:48] not keeping up with at least a 5% and so we can hire and also it comes to hiring we

[44:53] also want to bring in good people you know to start out with us and be competitive and

[45:00] So far behind that every new officer that graduates the academy goes to another city and doesn't come to us. So we can hire so many people too. So I know there are some professions that just don't give pay raises. I get that and I'm dealing with this profession right here and I want to stay competitive so we can keep our good employees and hire good employees.

[45:21] I think I could recommend an amendment

[45:28] to this budget.

[45:33] Okay.

[45:34] We'll just let go.

[45:36] So we'll get everybody's input first.

[45:38] Wait a minute.

[45:39] I'm just listening at the moment.

[45:41] You know, I don't know anything.

[45:42] I'm going to let some for you.

[45:45] Yeah.

[45:46] I'd like to go after payment.

[45:49] That's okay.

[45:50] So I agree.

[45:51] I think we were behind in salaries.

[45:53] and I think that's why we want to cross the board to give raises.

[45:58] I do think we have to be competitive. You're the one and HR that see our employees and you hear

[46:04] them and you're listening to great people asking for increase in salary. So I think we have to

[46:12] listen to you for that. But I'm gonna have to agree with something the mayor said. I think we can do a

[46:23] of cost of living increase, but at the same time, I do believe that we have to look at public

[46:30] work. Today I stopped on Long Shalom Trail, which is that value between us and Universal City,

[46:39] and the residents all the way down, are saying, Universal City keeps that grass beautiful.

[46:46] Over here on our side, we have a problem. And so I've been hearing that, I've been hearing the

[46:52] talk about the area that has not been cut. So I do think if we could have done something with

[46:59] with a public's work to get the grass under control, I think we would have done that already.

[47:05] So I do think we need to look at getting a part-time person or somebody else in there.

[47:11] But for me, I do think employees deserve, I mean, health care. And I want my raise and I want it

[47:20] because of the cost of living, but I also want it on the merit base,

[47:24] because outstanding employees want to be paid, outstanding.

[47:27] And some of the city knows our outstanding employees,

[47:31] and they're going to come for them.

[47:32] So I do believe we have to take care of our staff.

[47:34] So here's that for me.

[47:35] But I also believe we have to take care of our staff

[47:38] by giving them enough tools to help take care of our grants.

[47:44] Whether that's outsource it or whatever.

[47:46] I don't know that.

[47:47] how that would work, but I do think both has to be a complish, but it's just not,

[47:57] it's

[47:57] my own way.

[48:03] I agree with the mayor for once.

[48:07] I do think we need to give them some kind of race, whatever it is, because we've all skirted

[48:16] around the problem.

[48:18] Somebody comes here, they get a job, they get real good at it, and they realize, oh, I can

[48:25] to shirts and take my experience over there and get paid more. But people have got to remember

[48:31] too that shirts live oak and everybody up by 35 has revenue coming in from all the businesses

[48:41] that are there and converse is a poor city. And now we're up in the tax rate. So we have to

[48:50] kind of balance, what kind of ways you want to give them, and yet we still have to provide

[48:57] the services to our citizens for whatever water, you know, whatever the service that we need

[49:07] fire police. I was under the exception in the section that when you showed us the first draft

[49:16] of this budget, you said that the fire and the police needed three people, because they

[49:23] wanted to promote up to Lieutenant and what not. So you needed to replace them. And I

[49:30] thought that was in here, but it's not. No, it's never been in the prior draft or this draft.

[49:37] That's correct.

[49:42] See now you have to sit there and think, okay, what is the priority of the city here? I mean,

[49:50] You know, I've always thought it was always, you know, safety, okay.

[49:56] And, you know, if you, I think you should take...

[50:00] A little bit back from those raises. But I do believe that they all need a raise. Because it's been announced.

[50:08] And all you got to do is not give them one. And they'll all get up and go. Okay. And I appreciate our employees. I really do. And I appreciate the directors above them.

[50:19] But they do a good job with what they've got.

[50:24] But we have got to sit here and think, what is our priority?

[50:29] To me, a foreign or a policeman is a little more important than going out and getting them a new car.

[50:37] They have got vehicles.

[50:39] I know they get miles on them, but you don't have to replace them every year.

[50:46] So I see a little disconnect in some places, but raises, I agree with the mayor, I think the 5% is too much.

[51:02] Okay, a few different thoughts here. I think it's good conversation though.

[51:07] I do agree we should revisit how we approach the mayor and increase it.

[51:13] I feel like messaging matters so it's it's being presented as to remain competitive this increase

[51:20] but ultimately it sounds like we're underpaying staff so there's a difference between awarding a

[51:26] staff number for good performance and there's a as employee who's getting paid

[51:34] 40,000 when the market says he or she deserves 50,000 so I think they're there need to be clarity and it

[51:42] would be helpful to have some background on well what percentage of our staff are under market

[51:48] rate and so forth. But I think there's multiple factors to consider. So I do agree with the

[51:54] cost of increasing that a cost of living applied across the board would be appropriate. But I think

[52:06] combination may be, would be good fit. So, considering a kind of cost of living

[52:13] brawl employees, but for those that you can approach it as a merit, and so

[52:18] that we are, you know, recognizing and awarding those high performing, or if we

[52:23] need a prioritized item, who's being underpaid thousands of dollars, you can

[52:28] tap into that bucket. So, ultimately, my thought would be a combination of the two

[52:34] use your discretion on, you know, how you want to present it. But if we do reduce the, from

[52:42] 5% to 2 or 3, that would offer savings for potentially, it sounds like staffing.

[52:52] Yeah, the staffing would have to come from that $750,000. And that wouldn't get many employees,

[52:58] but yeah, it would have to come from that pot of money. Okay.

[53:04] For the investments, so it seems like we did prioritize capital over staffing for this one.

[53:13] Is this total to 1,990,000?

[53:17] Yeah, that's correct.

[53:18] So I wouldn't say it was prioritized over.

[53:21] So we had two pods of money.

[53:22] One was the fund balance, which we can only use really use on capital, which we did a

[53:27] And then we have the 750 which we could use on a combination or one of the other of people and or sourd.

[53:37] Okay, so the one million 90,000 is only, you're saying we could only use it for cats.

[53:43] That's right, that's right.

[53:46] So the 750 is where we all need to decide what combination is going to be soury versus important.

[53:55] Okay, yeah, that does restrict things a bit.

[54:01] Not to move on, but just real quick, two other small things.

[54:05] For public safety, I was unsure, I'm seeing two different percentages, 56 dedicated

[54:12] to public safety and then 58 somewhere, so I wanted to get clarity on that to make sure

[54:18] it's accurate, whatever's presented here.

[54:21] Okay.

[54:22] Do you have the page numbers there?

[54:23] There's no page number. It would be nice because there's a lot of pages here. But it's on the general fund expenditure by function.

[54:33] I think it's a reference, here is 58 percent, and then we talk about a percent number or the bodies that are in the department.

[54:44] Oh, percent of percent of our expenditures that are catered to public safety.

[54:50] Okay, okay, so it's percent not bodies, okay.

[54:54] And then the other page right next to it where it says proposed revenues, the references.

[55:00] Fifty-six of our general funds will be dedicated to public safety. So, I just wanted to...

[55:05] Okay. I'll get with you afterwards and see that. Okay.

[55:10] And then last one that to take us off topic, because this is a good conversation around the mayor.

[55:17] I noticed on this one, and sorry, I didn't catch it on the other ones, but the speed bump program. I noticed it was dropped to zero.

[55:24] Dollars, or zero percent. Just wanted to get some background on that.

[55:28] I'd have to ask the Department how to come up with that program.

[55:40] Good question because I saw that in the winter.

[55:43] Wow, we have a little request all the time.

[55:48] The state program is on page 94.

[55:52] Why is it no budget on it?

[55:54] Good evening, Mayor Council.

[55:56] Good evening, public worst director.

[55:58] So as far as that line answer,

[56:00] I believe that one specifically for speedhumps.

[56:03] I didn't change that one, so I honestly don't have an answer for y'all.

[56:08] It was a car.

[56:11] Yeah, you put Steve Benson this year.

[56:15] That...

[56:15] If I recall correctly, I thought there was 50,000 in there.

[56:20] So it's all, but to then under major capital street maintenance.

[56:27] So it's not separated, like last year.

[56:29] But when it's there, it's just not...

[56:33] Yeah, basically.

[56:36] Okay.

[56:38] Okay, thank you.

[56:39] So how much is that?

[56:45] Fund is 1 million.

[56:47] Why is it in a different place and why is it so much?

[56:52] You're ing, you're intermingling them with the free maintenance fund.

[56:57] But this is the free maintenance fund that you're asking.

[57:01] Yeah, no, no.

[57:01] She's asking about speed bumps.

[57:03] Has nothing to do with the street maintenance.

[57:04] Yes, sir. It's under and all this. I don't want to put it, but it has nothing to do with

[57:10] the street maintenance fund

[57:15] The man's foster pair roads. We can't do it. Do it speed bumps with that money. It will be legal

[57:27] Yeah, yeah, it's a street maintenance lunch

[57:30] Husking a lot. So you're saying that this 50,000 is now moved to the right

[57:35] So that's all in here.

[57:41] And a rationale for bringing it under a different line item.

[57:47] Is it just created?

[57:49] It's the same one.

[57:51] Okay.

[57:53] I have no preference.

[57:54] I think as long as there is an investment in that,

[57:57] it was my biggest question.

[57:58] Well, it's not a matter of preference.

[57:59] It's a matter with a law.

[58:00] It allows you to deal with this tremendous fund.

[58:02] Yeah.

[58:03] That is a very important point.

[58:04] If I have the attorney check that because my interpretation is that you can only do

[58:09] certain things we would have had money, you can't eat bumps.

[58:13] Then it's probably safe for us to keep it as it was.

[58:18] Just yeah, we're restrictive on what can do with those funds.

[58:25] When we first talked about it with the council,

[58:30] get it to the voters, we went all the reasons.

[58:33] We went all the way, it was just a member that was here at that time.

[58:35] And he said, you can only use it for this and that's it.

[58:40] in the parks in that way to put a stop to that.

[58:47] Anybody else?

[58:49] I'm actually going to create the mayor as far as pulling back on a five percent.

[58:57] Were the cameras and the radio's included in this as necessary items?

[59:05] I'm going to have to ask the chief and I don't know.

[59:17] So when

[59:22] things I always do is Mayor Council,

[59:26] leave me.

[59:27] Body cameras, we've always replacing the body cameras.

[59:30] I just didn't know the purchase.

[59:34] Just the other day, actually before a budget closed,

[59:36] I actually just bought another 11 body cameras.

[59:39] So we're actually replacing as we need them.

[59:41] So they're good, they're new and they're good to go. We're fine with the cameras now. We get to remember one thing too is just kind of keep it

[59:49] Now mind just the mindful of the seizure money that we can come in in to so we use that seizure money to replace

[59:56] equipment a lot of times oftentimes so we're not having to come

[1:00:00] On the council asking for additional money. So just kind of be mindful of that. And I can say there's some large seizure

[1:00:07] money that's getting ready to come in this next year. It's been taking some time, because of course the government's slower to pay right now.

[1:00:14] But as that money comes in, that's some of the plans we have is replacing equipment on the vehicles. So that's our in-car cameras is replacing each one of them.

[1:00:22] But we never know what the seizure money is.

[1:00:25] Well, it's in all this line item, we do a posted in a line item and you've got you all

[1:00:29] do get that of how much we've got in there each time, so it's actually in our budget.

[1:00:35] So it's counted as some money that's there, of course we can touch it or it can only

[1:00:38] go to police department, you know, equipment, but that money is there.

[1:00:43] Now one thing to cut, so if we buy vehicles with that money, so just so you know if we do

[1:00:46] buy vehicles with that money, if we sell that vehicle, that money has to go back and that

[1:00:51] fund every time.

[1:00:52] Can that be moved for anything?

[1:00:53] Well, I meant those, that you can't predict what the seizure money is going to be.

[1:00:58] Well, we don't, but we know that we have dags, they call them dags, it's the seizures coming in.

[1:01:02] And we know that we've been getting notified on the dags like how many they're getting coming in.

[1:01:06] We had a real huge one that was, it actually expanded from Texas all the way through California.

[1:01:12] And that's a big one getting ready to come in for us.

[1:01:14] And when it does, that's what I like to do with it, I like to replace equipment, things.

[1:01:18] So that don't have to come to you is, in a police team said, hey, I need new radios.

[1:01:22] I need this. I need that. We use that money for that equipment. Radios were always looking at replacing them.

[1:01:30] I can tell you right now, a single radio now costs $10,000 per radio.

[1:01:36] So we're always looking for grant money. Those type of things to pay for that.

[1:01:42] So is it right now? So the vehicles, the new vehicles we put in there, those we equipped with in new in car cameras.

[1:01:50] Because if our cameras are already 15 years old, so they're timing out, but those did that included the money that's in there included the new cameras as well.

[1:01:58] Well, I know the concern was also for code enforcement if they do work weekends, having that as a data.

[1:02:05] We have those coming in.

[1:02:06] Well, as animal control.

[1:02:09] Both are taking care of.

[1:02:11] Okay.

[1:02:12] That's what my question.

[1:02:13] They're done.

[1:02:14] Trust me.

[1:02:15] Got to take care of it.

[1:02:15] That was my question.

[1:02:17] How do you buy six vehicles from 190,000, what do you buy in Volkswagen's?

[1:02:22] No, sir. They're fully equipped police cars. The interesting thing is it shows

[1:02:26] lease, and that's not going to kind of lead. They're not. They're actually purchase. Those

[1:02:31] are going to be the ones you're buying now. We're going to be purchased vehicles. They're

[1:02:34] no longer lease. Although we have lease vehicles, those are going to be for purchase. The

[1:02:38] interesting thing about this new lease program is we've found is this company that we're

[1:02:43] bank. If we purchase these vehicle January 1st of 2027, our first payment is not due to January

[1:02:50] 1st 2028. We'll figure that one out. New math. But I have all the, I think guys are looking

[1:02:58] like a crazy. It's true. It's a bank. It's a bank. They're charging actually lower interest

[1:03:04] than the lease programs are there by 10. That's one stone vehicles, right? Well, you know,

[1:03:09] I'm just kidding. No, they're not, they're not stone vehicles. They're going to be brand new.

[1:03:12] We're looking at the Ford Explorers, these now come equipped with a police package, the older

[1:03:18] Explorers that you have bought many years back, they said they were police packages, they

[1:03:24] weren't police packages, so they're going to hold up a little bit differently, so we're looking

[1:03:27] at the Explorers, and I don't have the breakdown with me exactly, but I can tell you the cars

[1:03:32] were about about 190,000, but that's fully equipped with everything, and one thing is the

[1:03:39] Manufacturers are living, done as no favors,

[1:03:42] because you know every two years

[1:03:43] they're changing the body style on these cars.

[1:03:46] So we used to be able to take the equipment

[1:03:47] and move it from one car to another,

[1:03:49] and we were good to go, not anymore.

[1:03:52] Now it's just, it's trash pretty much when we get it.

[1:03:56] So we hope to do as we turn them in,

[1:03:58] we sell them back to that dealership,

[1:04:01] and then they sell them, and we in turn

[1:04:03] get some of that funding back to the city.

[1:04:05] So, it's kind of a, it's a, it's a, it's a unique situation we're in now nowadays, you leave from them.

[1:04:13] It's what the paperwork shows, but it's really, the new company we're going through is no longer, at least, it's actually a purchase.

[1:04:19] So, at the end of the term, we decide whether there be three, four, five years, we purchase that car for one dollar,

[1:04:26] and then it's the belongs to the city.

[1:04:28] That's the difference in it.

[1:04:29] where the ones for enterprise, which we brought a couple of years ago, if you remember the enterprise

[1:04:34] cars, those are actually lease cars. Now at the end we'll have an opportunity to buy them for

[1:04:39] whatever the residual is left on it but it's a little different. This new program we found this

[1:04:45] company, they actually do this for law enforcement and they do this, they finance the cars basically

[1:04:52] for 30, 3, 4, 5 years, whatever we want to choose.

[1:04:57] So that's the difference.

[1:05:00] I know it looks, it sounds crazy, but if you feel it works, it's strange.

[1:05:04] I remember a time you could barely get a vehicle fully equipped for under 100,000.

[1:05:10] We're 80, but it's about 80,000 a vehicle right now.

[1:05:13] Exactly, fully equipped. Yes, sir.

[1:05:16] And that's that's six vehicles because it's like it shows like a lease.

[1:05:20] You're making a monthly payment basically, one monthly payment a year later.

[1:05:23] That makes any sense. Doesn't make any sense to me either.

[1:05:26] I support that program, because that's their office, your office who's been in their eight hours

[1:05:31] plus, and they need to good be, because they quit them, and so that's what they do.

[1:05:36] And that's where they spend their time in that car.

[1:05:38] They're very seldom in there, and that's where we're gearing up for, we're actually bringing

[1:05:42] in technology in, where the officers are going to be able to, and now we've gone to cradle

[1:05:48] points, which I know is just kind of different, you know, stand with those are, but it downloads

[1:05:52] the information faster than the car for the officers.

[1:05:55] We're getting it to where we're updating our systems so that we can, they officers can actually send the reports from the car to here to the facility here

[1:06:03] and it's already in the system when they get here. So it's kind of making things a little bit faster as we can.

[1:06:12] Thank you, Mayor Comfort.

[1:06:14] I would just like some just for clarification purposes please.

[1:06:19] These six vehicles if we approved would be purchased.

[1:06:26] And for the next four years, we don't need to purchase.

[1:06:31] Man, that's going to, our cars, I can tell you there's a lot of cars out there now that

[1:06:36] are having over 130, 140,000 miles on them.

[1:06:39] I would encourage Council to come right along, and you can see some of the cars that the

[1:06:43] officers have out there.

[1:06:45] And the sound is terrible, but the type of driving we are, the officers do a lot harder

[1:06:52] driving.

[1:06:52] We're not, you know, we don't, not let soccer mom is driving to the, you know, driving

[1:06:56] the kid to the soccer games or to the football games or in that these guys are using

[1:07:01] these cars and they ride, they drive them hard and that's because they're getting to

[1:07:05] emergencies quickly and, you know, we're stopping cars, you got to understand even in a

[1:07:09] traffic stop, how fast that car has got to go from 0 to 60 or 0 to 70 is a matter of seconds.

[1:07:16] So these cars are hit hard, they're actually punched hard. So they, they are worn out by

[1:07:22] we get them and you can see the cars we have this is just a this is a portion of the

[1:07:26] fleet that we're replacing again and it's going to be you're going to you'll be replacing

[1:07:31] fleet every two or three years not according to this that's just numbers for this this set of

[1:07:39] cars we're replacing gotten 28 29 30 31 I think that's nothing for the next four years

[1:07:50] No projection for the next four years.

[1:07:52] Yeah, no projection for years, no.

[1:07:54] That's what she said.

[1:07:55] Oh, that's why you're asking that.

[1:07:58] Okay, well, that's just some of the things.

[1:07:59] The thing for the next four years, you're not going to need to.

[1:08:00] Oh, no, man.

[1:08:01] We'll need to go.

[1:08:02] I'll be coming back to you again in a couple of years for more cars.

[1:08:05] Because you got to think that the least cars, the 13 least cars.

[1:08:09] You see, I wish we had that much.

[1:08:13] You got to the least cars that we have 24 months from now,

[1:08:16] actually going to be coming up. So that's 13 cars that we have to look at replacing or purchasing those 13.

[1:08:23] What's the difference between vehicles and cars in the market and cars in the market?

[1:08:27] So in market as you're a detective cars, we actually have some low profile cars. If you see them out there,

[1:08:35] the truck, another K9 car that's low profile, those are all your other cars. Because the

[1:08:41] They have, now those cars, they last a lot longer because they're driven very differently.

[1:08:47] They're not patrol.

[1:08:48] They're actually driven very, I mean, they're casual.

[1:08:50] I mean, they drive them to calls.

[1:08:52] They drive them to where they gotta go, but they're not hard on the cars.

[1:08:55] So they last a lot longer.

[1:08:56] So they're gonna last like your personal car.

[1:08:58] They may last, you know, six, seven years for a car.

[1:09:01] There's a vehicles up the troll vehicles?

[1:09:03] Yes sir, those are patrol vehicles.

[1:09:10] I'm good.

[1:09:12] Good.

[1:09:13] So, for me, we call our life, I'm 100% I kind of agree with the mayor, but I think 2% might be a little less.

[1:09:23] I would settle for more like 3 to 4, but I know you had on the previous slide at the last workshop, the 3% and there was available possibly for another staff member.

[1:09:37] If I remember there was like 150 or almost 200,000 left, if we did the 3% for more staff.

[1:09:46] Yeah, I think that was 400,000,000 for 3% or 3% pay raise.

[1:09:52] It was like 400 something.

[1:09:53] Yeah, you had it.

[1:09:54] I think it was like about 450 something like that.

[1:09:56] Yeah, 450 something and then you had a couple hundred left.

[1:09:59] I could possibly.

[1:10:00] Yeah, there are 300,000 left for employees. If we go with the lower pay raise, that's right.

[1:10:08] That would be the mark that I would recommend, not as low as two, but three, maybe four, with an additional staff members, somewhere, or two, partners, where we are short-handed, because we are short-handed in quite a few departments.

[1:10:25] Yeah, place and fire, but that would be my only difference up here as I think more than two.

[1:10:34] Okay.

[1:10:38] I'm just one more question.

[1:10:41] Good.

[1:10:41] To you, time.

[1:10:43] The, well, it's totally different from money per se.

[1:10:47] You have a thing here for park sidewalks.

[1:10:53] Yes, that's.

[1:10:54] And where did that come from?

[1:10:57] Well, that is a ongoing program.

[1:10:58] there's no sidewalks in the park now and they have sidewalks but they put in

[1:11:07] $150,000 of sidewalks this year so it's a multi-year program to get all those sidewalks.

[1:11:16] That's what I'm saying they have a trail I'm not talking about. I thought they said they're changing

[1:11:20] the concrete to concrete so it lasts longer. Okay, I must have been asleep during that

[1:11:30] time because I didn't know that. Because I know there's a trail going through there.

[1:11:37] Okay, all right. Do you plan on putting anything in city park? I don't, oh yes.

[1:11:47] Okay.

[1:11:47] But not out of the 150,000 that's for next year. No, I'm in the future. Okay. I think that I'd almost look at that one. So public works because to me it seems like you're neglecting city park compared to North Park

[1:12:03] So he does show 150,000 every year out on this five-year capital. Okay. All right. Thank you

[1:12:12] But the priority

[1:12:14] for this one 50 is North Park, yes, for every one.

[1:12:26] One last question, so if we approve the capital improvements,

[1:12:32] what I'm thinking about next year's budget?

[1:12:34] So how will what is maintenance look like

[1:12:37] or how do you see next year's budget being impacted

[1:12:40] by this year's purchases?

[1:12:44] I know you probably don't have a number,

[1:12:46] but just some back, see, like are we anticipating

[1:12:49] that we will need to, you know, allocate more funds to sustain some of these big purchases or, you know, just for my background.

[1:12:59] So here's a three-in-ation.

[1:13:01] I can't answer that completely based on what are budgets going to look like next year and growth.

[1:13:06] And hopefully our overall cess property value doesn't go down.

[1:13:10] But we would adjust every years we go by, so hypothetically, if you approve the items in yellow in the final budget, then the things left out would move over to the next year, and we did just to the right.

[1:13:25] And there might be new items that come up, obviously we got to add more police cars in there for year 2-3-5.

[1:13:30] But I, so it's just, I can't tell you what you like.

[1:13:37] Okay.

[1:13:38] Okay.

[1:13:39] Sorry.

[1:13:39] It's okay.

[1:13:40] I have what is.

[1:13:42] It seems that we have had a lot of discussion with other recommendations to the city manager.

[1:13:53] Hmm.

[1:13:53] About this budget.

[1:13:57] And maybe what we need to do,

[1:14:00] Since we have asked him so many different things tonight,

[1:14:06] that we need to amend this budget and ask him to bring us back,

[1:14:10] when can we do another budget workshop between now and

[1:14:17] September the 19th?

[1:14:19] Well, it perfectly is December 15th because that's an

[1:14:22] We can do a workshop on the 10th and the afternoon and then and then we can have a, we can bring it on the 14th or 15th one of the two for approval.

[1:14:37] You're talking next week.

[1:14:39] Two weeks.

[1:14:40] Well, yes sir.

[1:14:41] Today is the 10th.

[1:14:43] We can wait.

[1:14:44] We can give them time and wait.

[1:14:45] We can do it on the 14th.

[1:14:47] Put it on the 14th and then have a workshop on the 14th and then put it on a 15th for approval.

[1:14:52] the next council meeting and will still be okay with 19th.

[1:15:00] We had to have a public hearing tonight. Will there need to be another public hearing? Do we have time for that?

[1:15:09] I don't know. I don't know. I don't think we have to do another public hearing.

[1:15:17] You don't have to do another public hearing. You don't have to do another public hearing when you're doing these.

[1:15:21] The whole point of probably at the beginning of the public hearing is citizens come up. They comment and you make adjustments.

[1:15:26] Okay, so we make with good with that. Yes, okay, then we can do it on a 14

[1:15:32] Again, we can do a workshop on a 14th and then and then and then finalizes get everything out in the open and then

[1:15:39] prove it on the 15th

[1:15:40] Council meeting

[1:15:42] Good

[1:15:42] There's a lot of I'd like to make a motion that we amend this budget

[1:15:46] Post-ponent total and postpone it. Yes, sir

[1:15:50] So what is that date September 14th?

[1:15:53] You know, we'll have a workshop on the 14 that everybody can make it, 14, then we'll put it on the council for the 15.

[1:16:03] We got a meeting already set, 15.

[1:16:07] There's a motion on the floor.

[1:16:10] Okay.

[1:16:12] So we'll have a meeting on the 14th with that motion at 12 noon.

[1:16:19] Okay.

[1:16:19] But that give us enough time to, when was the last employee salary study conducted?

[1:16:27] They give us enough time to give us.

[1:16:29] Well, we have enough, we don't, well, we can't go out and pay for a study in a week.

[1:16:35] So we're not going to get that, but we have enough data.

[1:16:38] So we have lots of data.

[1:16:40] We can look at where we are.

[1:16:42] But, yeah, and I don't know if, I mean, it all comes down to what I'm hearing you say tonight

[1:16:48] is don't allocate the whole full 750 to races like I did. So cut that back by approximately

[1:16:55] half and then and then okay half and then whatever's left is for you know some new

[1:17:03] personnel.

[1:17:04] If I'm going to say two percentage from say three, some say so around here.

[1:17:08] Yeah, you're going to need to send us. Yeah, because okay we need to see what a 2% we know

[1:17:15] what that is, what about a 2.5, and then the 3 we already know?

[1:17:21] Right.

[1:17:21] Yeah.

[1:17:22] I could consider a 2.5 Councilwoman Leon rather than a 3.

[1:17:29] But if you would please Mr. Farmer bring us back those figures,

[1:17:34] what would a 2.5 look like?

[1:17:36] And what could you do with the 2.5, as far as personnel and capital improvement?

[1:17:44] Yes, so that really be the only change from what I'm hearing tonight in this proposed

[1:17:50] budget the next, because it seems like there's consensus on the capital.

[1:17:53] Yes, sir, and call it a cola.

[1:17:56] Well, now I'm talking about the capital.

[1:17:58] So, and then that's a good point.

[1:18:00] So I want to get to next just to get some clarification, so this has been a good discussion

[1:18:04] tonight.

[1:18:05] So, go to 2.5 for the pay raise, recommend personnel for the difference.

[1:18:12] I would like to get some clarification and make a recommendation that, when a year ago I heard from the council at that time that they really wanted a merit raises.

[1:18:26] And we've worked very hard at that over the year and I totally agree with that.

[1:18:29] But concern is how it's done,

[1:18:31] of the obvious issue that I think some organizations do it

[1:18:37] where one person overrides the directors, you know,

[1:18:40] and to me that's, that's how it's done.

[1:18:44] They don't really have that kind of process,

[1:18:45] but we have a whole process that we need to find out

[1:18:47] of the priorities.

[1:18:48] I know review, which it was part of the goal setting,

[1:18:51] so all the employees got goal setting,

[1:18:53] their direct reports met with them,

[1:18:55] and they met halfway through the year process,

[1:18:57] And we're really at the point where we need to recommend whatever the pay raises.

[1:19:01] 2.5 or if it was 5, we need to recognize the high performers and set it

[1:19:08] continue to do the cola.

[1:19:09] Because the cola is sort of a slap in the face to the high performers,

[1:19:13] where it's 2.5 or 3, whatever the cola is, everybody gets the same.

[1:19:17] Well, this guy is an all-star and this person is not.

[1:19:21] Well, why should I continue to perform like this when that guy got the same raises me?

[1:19:26] So I really recommend, and we already have the set process set up.

[1:19:29] We've been setting up for this time over the last year.

[1:19:33] So if it's 2.5, that's great.

[1:19:34] But let's do the Maritory's, you know, pay raise as opposed

[1:19:39] to just a cola.

[1:19:42] What are we going to have with you?

[1:19:42] I would like to say this.

[1:19:45] I wasn't here then.

[1:19:47] So I would like to know what is the metric that's being used

[1:19:50] for this Maritory's.

[1:19:51] I want to see it.

[1:19:53] OK.

[1:19:53] Well, we'll share it with you, but that it's just your typical annual assessment. It's been going on for a year

[1:20:00] We did it with goals. But then there's other categories and the employees will be scored by their direct supervisor. Okay. And then at the end of the day, we have everybody in these boxes of where they score and then there's a matrix that sets up what that raise would look like.

[1:20:16] I want to see it. And then some would get, you know, 1% raise and some of them might get a three, but it averages to the 2.5. We would pass that total amount of dollars, whatever 2.5.

[1:20:27] So let's say 2.5 is an even 400,000 for the sake of discussion, okay?

[1:20:33] We would not surpass that amount because that's equivalent to the 4% so we just

[1:20:38] great all the all the all the boys and then we work out that average that fits into

[1:20:43] that $250,000 or $400,000 which is 2% or 2.5% excuse me.

[1:20:49] I just would not like to see what I've seen in my profession when you give those kinds of

[1:21:00] raises, favorites or chosen.

[1:21:03] I don't want to say that.

[1:21:04] The checks and balances in that is if a department here reads every one of his employees

[1:21:09] great.

[1:21:10] I got super stars.

[1:21:11] I got 30 employees and they all walk on water.

[1:21:14] Okay, well we're still at the max of $400,000 so what you've done is you punish the

[1:21:18] through performers, and you've watered down their rays because based on 2.5, let's say the

[1:21:24] high performer got a 3, low performer got 1.5, you just watered that down where everybody's

[1:21:30] going to get close to the same. So that's the checks and balances on that. So we're not going

[1:21:36] to go over the 400,000 and I've said to give this a piece of any time. So you can rate everybody

[1:21:42] They walk on water and be dishonest about it, but then you're watering down the real performers

[1:21:49] and their rays for being an exceptional employee.

[1:21:54] But we'll show you that.

[1:21:55] Okay, I would have to be transparent.

[1:21:57] Yeah, I understand.

[1:21:59] And I actually recommend maybe at that workshop on the 14th stage, our director and I can show

[1:22:03] you what that process looks like too.

[1:22:07] Yeah.

[1:22:07] I think that would be helpful.

[1:22:08] If we could also understand how many of our employees are under, well, I guess maybe it's

[1:22:17] a copy of the compensation strategy or but ultimately how many of our employees are under

[1:22:24] market and what would it take them to get to the market rate because that's probably a part

[1:22:29] of that city and plan. But both employees are important to me, the higher performing employees

[1:22:36] important and the underpaid employee that should be getting paid.

[1:22:41] Well that's right.

[1:22:41] I want to brought that up.

[1:22:42] So when we do the Maritorious raise, we actually look at where you are, if you're a

[1:22:47] above midpoint, where you're competitive with other people in your field and the people

[1:22:52] that are not competitive and they're paid and are woefully underpaid compared to their peers

[1:22:57] in other cities.

[1:22:57] So we call that midpoint.

[1:22:59] If you're below midpoint, you're not competitive and if you're above midpoint, you're

[1:23:03] competitive. So we cross layer the the the annual assessment with where you are, whether you're above midpoint and below midpoint. And so the point is we always like to get the people below midpoint up to midpoint as fast as fast as fast as possible.

[1:23:19] And then the people above midpoint, they're, quote, paid healthy and

[1:23:24] competition, so they don't need as much of a raise.

[1:23:27] That's why last year, when we did the cola, we did three and a half percent for

[1:23:33] people above midpoint, six for people above, so.

[1:23:36] No, that's a couple of extra.

[1:23:37] And I have been a part of organizations that have given significant increases, but

[1:23:43] that's to bring positions up to market rates.

[1:23:46] So I understand, but yeah, when I hear merit, I think specifically performance space and to

[1:23:52] me, maybe it's just my understanding of it, but that's different than bringing somebody

[1:23:57] up to the rate that they deserve based on market and not performance.

[1:24:02] Yeah, we want to make sure those people that we get up are high performers that they

[1:24:07] deserve more to get up, maybe they belong in point.

[1:24:10] Somebody above.

[1:24:12] So we're taking a consideration with your talk.

[1:24:14] Okay.

[1:24:15] And when you do the pay raise, are you doing the inverted model where we're, because when

[1:24:21] you give across the board, 5% to an employee's only making 40,000 versus 5% to someone's

[1:24:26] making 150,000 or 20,000 is a lot different and it just gets separation, it just gets worse

[1:24:34] and more eight cog, because I'm on the board of directors, they fixed that to where, to where

[1:24:40] He makes so much, he's only going to get so much percentage versus a person that's below to prevent that from happening to prevent that gap from getting wider and wider.

[1:24:50] Yeah, the only issue with that is even some of it that makes 140,000.

[1:24:56] They are still half-camps of.

[1:25:00] Other people in that same position for other cities, and we don't want them to fall below midpoint. Just because they make a very healthy pay, you know, there's still, just because that number has six digits in it, doesn't mean we can't keep, we don't want to make, we want to make sure they're competitive with the other people that they compete against in other cities that do that exact same job.

[1:25:21] So, but all cities are different economically.

[1:25:26] Oh, yeah.

[1:25:26] I understand.

[1:25:27] I understand.

[1:25:28] Yes.

[1:25:32] It sounds to me like, there's been a compensation study done.

[1:25:37] Who was?

[1:25:38] There was several years ago.

[1:25:40] Was the last one that was done.

[1:25:42] Will you bring that place?

[1:25:44] I'd like to see that.

[1:25:46] Because that would show.

[1:25:52] Yeah.

[1:25:52] positions, it would show salary, what the market value is, what the market value is, what

[1:25:59] the midpoint is, and what they're actually making. Wouldn't it?

[1:26:05] I'm assuming I wasn't here when it was done, but we have more salary studies have that,

[1:26:09] so I imagine it's to some degree.

[1:26:11] You still have that, right? Where you had the low mid and high on every employee here.

[1:26:19] Yeah, we did that, and it's another thing too, we could make that available to all the council

[1:26:24] whether they're liberating on the paid to as well so they can see, because there's a difference of opinion when you say they're low versus when we see it,

[1:26:33] that's what happened in the past too, you know, it was a big difference in opinion.

[1:26:39] You know, well they said they weren't alone, we thought they were, it's just very many different ways, but

[1:26:44] When was that?

[1:26:46] You had a problem?

[1:26:46] Yeah, probably.

[1:26:47] I've been in many years ago, but it's kept up every year.

[1:26:50] But I started back in, and it's about three or four years, okay?

[1:26:55] No, I just kept on going.

[1:26:58] We started back in 2012, 13, and it was just kept using it.

[1:27:04] We had a problem one time when a city manager wasn't using it correctly.

[1:27:12] It's got behind on that time.

[1:27:14] But I think the latest version is about three or four years old.

[1:27:17] Yeah, the latest version is three-four years old, and it has a word where every employee,

[1:27:22] their position has as low mid and high and what you're getting right now, and you'll be able

[1:27:27] to see what everybody's getting right now, by position, and that's the document that we need.

[1:27:34] Now, do you get it, I think, has to be protected because it's privacy.

[1:27:40] There's a question on that one though, because I remember it was in 2023, and it wasn't that

[1:27:45] document made to catch them up to the 2023 rate?

[1:27:49] Yeah, when we first started it, when we used to start it, when Ronnie was

[1:27:52] see that, I was idea eight, eight, and it was to catch them up to the

[1:27:55] pay rate of 2023. So, technically.

[1:27:57] Well, to get everybody to the mid, and that's what happened last year,

[1:28:02] the last 30 years, which was last year.

[1:28:04] But was that also accounting for the additional increases for the three

[1:28:08] years that they were getting the raises on top of it?

[1:28:12] Yeah, because it started three years ago, and this was the 30 years last year, before he left,

[1:28:22] we need to go over.

[1:28:24] That's why I was six and three because we had gotten past the eight.

[1:28:28] We were at 16%, and we knew it was going to be, it was going to be between 16 and 20,

[1:28:36] and that's why we're at, and it's actually ended up 22%.

[1:28:41] When the document is shared, can you also share context

[1:28:45] because if that was completed three, four years ago,

[1:28:49] and we had multiple raises of the years,

[1:28:52] then we won't know necessarily who technically

[1:28:57] or what positions are still under market.

[1:29:01] So, and now that probably will take time,

[1:29:05] but yeah, whatever context you can provide will be held.

[1:29:08] Yeah, Kira can do a great job with that.

[1:29:10] who do that. Thank you. Okay, so at the 14th and you'll get a packet before then, but on the

[1:29:19] fort before the workshop on the 14th, I'm going to change it from 5% to 2.5% and then add extra

[1:29:27] personnel based on what's left over. And then I'm keeping the capital as it is, so that should be

[1:29:32] the only significant change, which will be any one easy change. So our changes. One more question,

[1:29:38] ambulance remount didn't we do that before chief politics we did we have one in this year's budget

[1:29:44] That's right when I said or do it what's that you do it right what they have there it's being done

[1:29:53] But we ask you for it again 20. Yes, yeah, because there's another ambulance that needs to be okay

[1:29:58] So we're doing another one

[1:30:00] The second year in a row.

[1:30:03] I just want to make sure we weren't talking about the last few years.

[1:30:07] Yeah, this is the second year in a row.

[1:30:10] Okay, you got all the facts.

[1:30:13] Well, we'll just defer this action to the 15th of September and we'll have a workshop on the 14th at noon.

[1:30:26] So no action tonight?

[1:30:27] No action tonight and not ready for action.

[1:30:30] Thank you for all the input.

[1:30:33] Thank you everybody for the input.

[1:30:40] Okay.

[1:30:40] Item B.

[1:30:42] Discussion for Reaction.

[1:30:44] Requests to be zone 24.538.

[1:30:46] You're properly located at the southwest corner.

[1:30:48] Where's the green road in Bainock Drive?

[1:30:50] Part of the property with property ID 619-038.

[1:30:54] From our six-ingle family district to B-2-Etoid district.

[1:30:58] Community Development Director, City Manager.

[1:31:01] Good evening, Mayor.

[1:31:02] and City Council. I'm Henry Couch, the Development Services Director.

[1:31:07] This property is located at the Southwest corner of where Seguine Road and Bona Drive.

[1:31:15] You can see on the location map here, the total property is about 24 to 25 acres and it's

[1:31:26] part of this property that is at the corner here, at the edge of our city limit with the city of shirts.

[1:31:35] The current zoning is our six single family, small lot district, and for this first item that is in regards to this property,

[1:31:46] it is a proposed rezoning to be to retail district.

[1:31:51] The Comprehensive Plan recommends a low-density residential designation for this property, but we'll get into why the rezoning is being requested.

[1:32:07] So this item, this rezoning request, is in combination with the next item, which is a special use permit request.

[1:32:12] That special use permit request is part of the full application for a development of a warehouse and storage development at this property.

[1:32:25] The property is located within an accident potential zone of Randolph Air Force Base.

[1:32:32] It's almost completely within an accident potential zone one, a very small corner is an accident potential zone two.

[1:32:39] Because of that designation, the allowable uses on the property are very limited.

[1:32:47] Notably, residential development is not permitted except for the Air Force

[1:32:54] does allow up to one home to be built on this size of property.

[1:33:01] So for every 25 acres of property one home could be built, that is the maximum residential

[1:33:08] development that could go on this property. And that's why, that's a leading reason why this

[1:33:14] rezoning is being proposed. The intent of the combined rezoning and special use permit is

[1:33:21] to designate this property as a commercial base district so that the following special use permit

[1:33:27] has a commercial oriented regulation as its base district for development of the property.

[1:33:37] Because the current zoning is residential, those

[1:33:40] area regulations are tailored to a residential

[1:33:44] development as opposed to commercial.

[1:33:48] This subject property is located at the corner

[1:33:54] of where Sagan and Bainig.

[1:33:56] It's currently an agricultural property.

[1:33:59] It is surrounded by vacant land to the north.

[1:34:04] That is in a city of shirts.

[1:34:06] There is agriculture uses to the west and then single family homes in our city to the south and outside of our city in the shirts to the east.

[1:34:19] Because of that accident potential zone designation, this property is actually also part of an easement agreement with Greenspaces Alliance of South Texas, which is a subsidiary of joint base in Antonio.

[1:34:35] and that easement covers the entire property and limits the maximum impervious surface that

[1:34:43] can be developed on this property to 15% of the total area and that area equates to about

[1:34:52] 3.5 acres. So with those limited uses and the limits of

[1:34:58] developable area.

[1:35:00] The potential development of this property is very limited.

[1:35:05] You may remember that this property was the subject of a previous rezoning request that was brought to the planning and zoning commission,

[1:35:14] but it was actually withdrawn before it reached City Council.

[1:35:18] That request was for I1 light industrial district.

[1:35:22] Since that request, that was in September of last year, the applicant has returned with

[1:35:29] this combined SUP and rezoning request, which suits the properties possible uses while

[1:35:35] taking taking into account those nearby residential properties, and because this is in combination

[1:35:42] with a special use permit, we will get into the buffering and things we're doing to protect

[1:35:48] those residents in the next item, which is the special use

[1:35:52] for my item, which comes with conditions and things like that.

[1:35:57] Like I mentioned, the rezoning of this property from our

[1:36:01] sixth district to B2 retail would mean that the base district

[1:36:05] would be tailored to commercial development as opposed to

[1:36:09] residential development. The restrictions set by joint base

[1:36:13] Antonio and the easement limit those permitted uses so that the actual uses allowed by the

[1:36:23] B2 district rezoning would not actually add any permitted uses, which I know that sounds odd.

[1:36:31] The intention is just to change the area regulations, which includes setbacks and structure size

[1:36:40] and things like that. Because of the easement, only a warehouse and storage use and that single

[1:36:50] residential lot use or an open space use would be permitted in that easement. So, uses

[1:36:58] in B2 themselves would actually not be allowed. I hope I'm making that clear that just the

[1:37:06] Regulations in B2, only the area, only the area regulations and structure size, regulations

[1:37:14] would apply in the end, the use regulations would not carry over because of that easement.

[1:37:23] This rezoning item was brought to the planning and zoning commission at the most recent meeting

[1:37:27] and the commission recommended approval of the rezoning request with a vote of six to one.

[1:37:33] Like I said, this is in combination with the special use permit, but we will get to that at the next item.

[1:37:39] The applicant is present if you have any questions for them and I stand by for any questions at this time as well.

[1:37:46] So will we clear the Randolph on all the the APZs?

[1:37:50] Yes, so Randolph or actually Green Space is Alliance who holds the easement as a subsidiary of Randolph has given their approval letter.

[1:38:00] But that letter has been provided in Seattle and Yale's packet that shows that the air force

[1:38:06] as well as the green space of the lines have given their approval for the use of warehouse

[1:38:14] and storage on that property.

[1:38:16] Okay.

[1:38:16] I want to remind the council in 2014, all of the cities got to get it, which Randolph,

[1:38:21] Joy Beings, San Antonio, came up with all his rules, APZ, one and two.

[1:38:25] And that, in fact, we stopped on a car to park from expanding on right there and then

[1:38:29] as well to protect the rival departure of runaway 1, 5, and 3, 3, 3 left so that that's what

[1:38:40] if they needed to dump the aircraft, we're taking off from the landing and we have space and

[1:38:44] that's what it's for, that could be kept clear. And we would further with a cog, a cog got

[1:38:49] a grant from the governor 2.4 million and we borrowed a lot of property so we can keep it clear

[1:38:56] for Randolph. So we are, we are our signers to that we did a city council

[1:39:00] bit of proof of all the requirements and administrations in 2017.

[1:39:08] And before you go on, I also need to add that 35 notices were mailed to the properties

[1:39:14] within two energy of this property and two responses were received in opposition to the

[1:39:26] And

[1:39:29] those were only cumbers.

[1:39:32] Yes, those were both residents of Congress.

[1:39:42] Did by chance the six to one, did the one say why?

[1:39:46] They voted no.

[1:39:47] There was not a reason given with the opposition.

[1:39:55] What kind of warehouses it going to be?

[1:40:00] That's probably a question for the next item, but the applicant is actually the applicant can speak on what is.

[1:40:07] On his desk, you proposed what they're intending to show as the facade, they'd be able to speak on what they intend to build.

[1:40:19] And we can bring them up there.

[1:40:23] Okay, questions on

[1:40:28] item B.

[1:40:28] question, what was, what is EDC's perspective on this? Has I do really value, you know,

[1:40:38] we really rely on them for economic development and their strategic perspective, but

[1:40:45] any thoughts forward there thoughts on this reasoning?

[1:40:49] We didn't receive a like a tax assessment on this property as it is it is vacant and agricultural

[1:40:56] So we're not collecting much tax off of it, but our EC director is here and I will speak on just what we can expect with a new development on this property.

[1:41:13] But again, that question might be better asked during the SUP item.

[1:41:16] This resounding essentially only changes the area regulations for this property.

[1:41:23] And do we need to vote on this now before we go on to the next?

[1:41:28] Yeah, because you can't do the second one without the first one.

[1:41:32] I mean, you can.

[1:41:35] Can you please?

[1:41:37] It's just helps improve the conditions for the HTTP for residents in my opinion.

[1:41:46] And they gotta be done separately.

[1:41:47] So we can have discussion and vote on it?

[1:41:53] No, you can have discussion and defer we can wait.

[1:41:59] What about asking?

[1:42:02] Well, that's going to be discussion.

[1:42:03] I was going to think is our way first to get the question answered

[1:42:06] without discussion before we vote.

[1:42:10] I agree. How can you?

[1:42:13] So yes or no, if you don't know what it really wants.

[1:42:17] Yeah, we can get the briefing on this one and just we'll just start foot to the next one.

[1:42:22] Go ahead and go to the next one.

[1:42:23] Absolutely, yes.

[1:42:24] I can give a briefing.

[1:42:26] I mean, I can go ahead and get the presentation for the SHP item as well.

[1:42:32] That's no problem with me.

[1:42:39] Go ahead and I am seeing a special introduction on a special use permit request for 24.538.

[1:42:45] to properly locate it to Southwest corner.

[1:42:48] We're seeking road-manage drive part of the property

[1:42:50] with property ID 619-038 with a use for warehouse

[1:42:55] and storage go ahead.

[1:42:57] All right.

[1:42:58] So this item is for the special use permit

[1:43:03] because the base district that would be applied

[1:43:07] that B2 district or as it stands, the R6 district

[1:43:10] because those uses listed in those districts are not permitted by the easement on this area.

[1:43:20] A special use permit would have to be applied to this property to allow for the uses that are allowed by the easement.

[1:43:29] So, for the special use permit request, they are requesting the use of warehouse and storage,

[1:43:36] because these are two of the very few uses allowed on the property by the conservation easement.

[1:43:46] The other uses include no more than one single family residents of the webling, like I mentioned,

[1:43:53] recreational parks and open spaces.

[1:43:55] And that is the extent of the uses that are permitted on this property.

[1:44:00] Because the property abuts residences, this SUP is being brought forward with a condition

[1:44:09] that imposes a 250-foot vegetated buffer between the existing residences there in the will of

[1:44:16] use of the vision as shown on the conceptual plan here on the screen, that would be a vegetated

[1:44:26] buffer that is reviewed and approved by staff to ensure that it is a full visual buffer

[1:44:34] and that the vegetation there is permitted by the Air Force as well to ensure there's

[1:44:40] not increased birds flying over the landing area as well.

[1:44:48] In addition to that 250 foot vegetated buffer, a 50 foot buffer is also proposed on Baynick

[1:44:54] drive which would have a visual barrier for those

[1:45:00] Residents in shirts as well. In addition, there is an existing stub out in the Willow View subdivision.

[1:45:09] There's a dead-end street there. This SUP would set aside a 50-foot right-of-weight dedication to the west

[1:45:21] of this property to allow an extension of that road should that neighborhood be developed further,

[1:45:28] because that open space area would still be zoned residential, and it would be outside of the APZ so it could be developed without those restrictions.

[1:45:42] The legislative buffer, as a note, would also be extended if those residences are developed in that open space area to ensure that the same protection is given to future homes if that is developed.

[1:45:56] Based on staff analysis, the use of warehouse and storage is the highest in best use of the property given those restrictions by the Air Force and the conservation easement.

[1:46:07] Approving this best use permit would ensure that that highest and best use is able to be developed, but it would also protect those residences that are there by imposing that buffer between the warehouse and storage and the residences.

[1:46:20] the Planning and Zoning Commission consider the SUP and recommend it approval with a vote of five to two.

[1:46:30] I stand by for any questions about this as well, and the applicant has a presentation.

[1:46:35] If you'd like to hear that, I can answer questions at any time.

[1:46:39] Just one question, somewhere to Councilman Adams.

[1:46:43] I didn't have a chance to watch the Planning and Zoning, but can you give a high level of the two that impose while we're there reservations?

[1:46:51] And generally from what I can remember, it would just the development at all on the property

[1:47:00] would be a nuisance to the existing residences.

[1:47:05] I mean, that's generally what it is.

[1:47:08] They prefer to stay as vacant property as opposed to being developed for the benefit of

[1:47:16] the residences.

[1:47:17] Thank you.

[1:47:20] I appreciate the buffer. I appreciate your work that you're doing. I set this to your early and we really appreciate that face stepping up

[1:47:28] But I do appreciate this buffer and that you're putting there to support our neighboring city

[1:47:33] So I think that was really really nice and you and then you are able to

[1:47:38] Show them that we're thinking about them. So that is great

[1:47:44] And councilwoman Hannah asked my question. I did want to know what those two were

[1:47:50] Thanks, absolutely.

[1:47:53] I just want to let the council know that those houses right now I'm waiting and that whole

[1:47:56] subdivision would build by San Antonio before we took over.

[1:48:00] Good enough. They weren't as nice as we are having a buffer.

[1:48:07] All these houses, as they were put up in San Antonio.

[1:48:11] Those are the ones in the flight path.

[1:48:14] That's like the crash.

[1:48:15] No, they're not.

[1:48:28] Yeah, we'll bring up the applicant. That's all right.

[1:48:31] We can do the brief. Yeah, give their information.

[1:48:35] Along first.

[1:48:36] Along first.

[1:48:37] Thank you.

[1:48:48] Good evening Mayor.

[1:48:49] City Council.

[1:48:50] A long boundary economic development director.

[1:48:53] In short,

[1:48:54] Henry covered most every detail that you guys need to know.

[1:48:58] But taking away even the considerations that occur due to the

[1:49:03] the Air Force Base and the requirements from that.

[1:49:07] This is a very difficult corner for retail and commercial.

[1:49:13] It's pretty far back away from everything as it stands.

[1:49:16] And so any viable commercial developments become difficult in this area, the required traffic

[1:49:20] to stores.

[1:49:22] The given all the regulatory environment that exists around it and limitations on what can

[1:49:27] be developed.

[1:49:27] I think that what's being proposed is probably the highest and best used for this area.

[1:49:33] The applicant came in and met with the community development director independently and

[1:49:38] myself independently and then with us together to discuss what options or opportunities might

[1:49:43] exist or what concerns that we as staff might have in regards to the development that they were

[1:49:47] proposing and the conditions that Henry has presented reflect those conversations.

[1:49:54] one of the primary things that we discussed was being that we're housing and outdoor.

[1:50:00] Your storage in that area is probably the highest and best use. One of the things that we wanted to have considered was buffering visual buffering so that if there were, you know, whatever might be stored out there, might have a visual buffer for the residents as they pass by, so it wouldn't have any detrimental effects there.

[1:50:19] Also, the applicant came back after our initial conversations and talking about building and building quality,

[1:50:26] because part of what we're really trying to move towards within the city of Congress is enhanced and improved quality development.

[1:50:34] They came back with buildings that reflect a much higher level of development.

[1:50:40] So, it was very appreciative that appreciative of how to act to see what the applicant brought forward.

[1:50:46] The quality and types of buildings it would be that are being proposed here, assuming that they're developed in this fashion.

[1:50:52] What they're being proposed tend to last longer and maintain appearance over the long run.

[1:50:58] Sometimes you may have buildings that are built that are metal buildings.

[1:51:07] And when you have warehouse, they can get bumped and hit by the trucks that are unloading and loading and those types of things over the years.

[1:51:16] lower the quality and the look of the buildings.

[1:51:18] What this app can is proposing is a much higher quality building.

[1:51:21] So I could host them for what they're

[1:51:23] how they responded to staff's input.

[1:51:26] But at the end of the day, I can honestly,

[1:51:28] I think this is the highest and the best use that

[1:51:30] they can be done on this piece of land.

[1:51:33] Thank you.

[1:51:33] Thank you questions.

[1:51:34] Thank you, sir.

[1:51:36] Respectively, I respect what Elana is saying,

[1:51:42] but he knows what it looks like.

[1:51:44] But we can we see a visual of what it looks like.

[1:51:50] I believe the applicant's presentation has an image of the expected development.

[1:51:58] So if we can bring that up and bring that presentation up as well.

[1:52:02] Thank you.

[1:52:12] Good evening Mayor, council members.

[1:52:15] My name is Daniel Ortiz.

[1:52:16] I'm here on behalf of the applicant property owner.

[1:52:20] frankly, Mr. Couch and your EDC director stole a lot of my thunder. So I do have a brief

[1:52:25] PowerPoint presentation as was already mentioned. I'll try to go through it quickly, a lot

[1:52:29] of it's going to be repeat. But some of it is worth emphasizing. As was already noted, items

[1:52:35] 9B, which is just sort of changing the base zoning to something more compatible with all

[1:52:41] everything going on around us, which I'll get back to in a minute. And then item 9C, they're jointly

[1:52:46] together. It's all going to walk my presentation is to cover both items at one time.

[1:52:55] Having said that, the first thing is Councilman you alluded to and maybe you did as well.

[1:53:00] I want to make clear that the SUP in particular that's in front of you is literally the result

[1:53:07] of over a year of conversations and probably half a dozen changes, significant changes to

[1:53:16] to the site plan. So there was a lot of time and energy that city staff put into this.

[1:53:21] I'll tell you, they represented city council and the city well.

[1:53:27] As was already noted, the property is roughly 24 and a half acres.

[1:53:31] It's literally at your city limit at the intersection of where's the gain and bane egg.

[1:53:37] What I want to point out on this particular area, though, is at the top of the screen, is the air force base, right?

[1:53:42] in particular that this property is right in the flight path

[1:53:46] for that Air Force Base, that looms large,

[1:53:50] in this particular set of circumstances.

[1:53:53] Background on how we got here and the project itself.

[1:53:58] It is currently zoned single family,

[1:54:02] which is inconsistent, the base zoning, single family,

[1:54:05] which is inconsistent with the fact

[1:54:07] that the property is in the accident potential zone one.

[1:54:10] So APZ-1, it's also in a conservation easement that runs in favor of the Air Force that is enforced by green spaces alliance as an Israel couch emphasized.

[1:54:22] So bottom line item 9B is to remove the residential because it's wholly incompatible with everything that has been done in the past to protect the Air Force base and change it to a B2 retail use.

[1:54:39] It's a theoretical use because as Mr. Couch mentioned that conservation easement even goes

[1:54:45] further and limits other uses so it really can't even be used for most if not all traditional

[1:54:52] commercial and retail uses but the bottom line is changing the base zoning district to

[1:54:57] away from single-family residential.

[1:55:00] Not compatible with being in the flight path. Getting to councilwoman your questions. The actual

[1:55:09] SUP that's in front of you again will implement a lot of the discussions that we've had over

[1:55:16] the past year. Let's start with the buildings. We first approached the city with a general blanket

[1:55:23] rezoning to light and industrial period. No SUP, no specific conditions or anything like that.

[1:55:30] That general blanket rezoning and metal buildings. We had a lot of conversations with

[1:55:35] city staff. They pointed us to your EDC. We had conversations with your EDC director which

[1:55:40] you described pretty well. And the end result is now the SUP that will come back to here in a minute,

[1:55:48] starting with the proposed buildings.

[1:55:50] The proposed buildings will now be a stucco exterior,

[1:55:54] no metal buildings.

[1:55:56] There'll be a single story, maximum 25 foot max height,

[1:56:02] in particular, no individual building

[1:56:05] would be more than 20,000 square feet.

[1:56:10] And there can only be two buildings

[1:56:12] period on the overall property.

[1:56:15] And as was already mentioned,

[1:56:16] to pursue it to the conservation easement, even though we're rezoning and locking in the

[1:56:20] SUP for all roughly 24.5 acres. We can only put in Pervious cover on about 3.5 acres

[1:56:27] of it today.

[1:56:31] Other factors, we'll go back on the SUP. They're worth highlighting. At the top

[1:56:37] left-hand corner of the screen, that's about 10.5, almost 11 acres. That was intentionally left

[1:56:45] out of the zoning case. It will be left for single-family purposes, probably left is open space.

[1:56:52] It acts as a natural buffer to the existing subdivision there. We went from originally we were

[1:56:59] proposing a hundred and fifty foot buffer in the hashed red diagonal area. That has been increased

[1:57:07] resulting from the conversations to 250 vegetative buffer and the type of landscaping you can see

[1:57:15] on the upper left-hand corner is dictated. So it's not sort of a theoretical plant whatever you want,

[1:57:22] but the types of species, the trees and even the distances between trees is dictated by the

[1:57:37] space is ever developed for single family.

[1:57:41] There will be no ingress egress to Baneig drive, along with an additional 50-foot buffer

[1:57:49] along Baneig.

[1:57:50] That was, as a nod, Mayor, as he pointed out, to the residences across the street, even

[1:57:57] though technically they're in a different city.

[1:58:00] The access will be on wear-seguine, including at the top of the screen, leaving property

[1:58:06] there for a stub out for a future connection if that open space is developed, the city was

[1:58:13] important to the city to have a traffic area for a future street that would connect to

[1:58:18] weirfs again there if that's now locked in by the SUP. Downward lighting throughout and again

[1:58:25] the change in the aesthetics for the building themselves, not metal, stucco, and a general office

[1:58:36] residential field, like what's on the screen today, the property owner developer, these are actual pictures of buildings that he's built today and is what he would propose to do here as well.

[1:58:50] So with all that in mind in summary, again, what's in front of you?

[1:58:58] Maybe it's not ideal to everyone and that helps explain maybe some of the votes at P&Z to get here

[1:59:04] But given the very unique circumstances being in the flight path

[1:59:10] And what is an isn't allowed for this particular property?

[1:59:14] You heard your EDC director tell you this is a we believe a very good

[1:59:18] Compromise and end result in front of you. So we would ask for your support tonight. Thank you

[1:59:31] Mr. Ortiz, are you the owner?

[1:59:36] I am not, no man.

[1:59:38] OK.

[1:59:39] You said that there was only going to be two buildings?

[1:59:45] Yes.

[1:59:46] And yet this shows five?

[1:59:49] Yes.

[1:59:50] So what the SUP is locking in sort of maximum potentials

[1:59:57] on a number of things.

[1:59:59] So...

[2:00:00] I'm criteria that I just went through. Maximum that can be paved on this property is three and a half acres. So what we've created to allow for some flexibility is an envelope of where that pavement could go and where the buildings could go.

[2:00:15] So it is showing five buildings, but we can't build any more than two. So we just wanted to put out there. This is where maximum they could be.

[2:00:23] Okay. So, but again, maximum that we could put on the property is two dollars.

[2:00:27] Gotcha. Okay. Now, the pictures that you showed of the warehouse, storage unit, whatever.

[2:00:37] Excuse me. That is, that is what the warehouse is going to look like. It looks like a house.

[2:00:47] It looks better than some of the houses that we see. So, I just want to, I'm sure it's probably

[2:00:53] a metal building with facade, right?

[2:00:57] No, man.

[2:00:58] It's actually.

[2:00:59] It's a stucco exterior that is designed to look

[2:01:03] office or residential, and that is a very direct result

[2:01:08] of the conversations that we had with your city staff

[2:01:11] and the EDC director.

[2:01:12] Okay, so this is what these buildings,

[2:01:15] the two buildings that would get built will look like.

[2:01:18] Okay, so Egress 2, that area is off of where's the gene?

[2:01:25] Correct.

[2:01:26] So the warehouse part, their doors are not facing the road.

[2:01:31] The back.

[2:01:32] The front will look like what's on the screen today.

[2:01:36] Okay.

[2:01:37] So they would have to drive around to the undeveloped part.

[2:01:42] Correct.

[2:01:43] To get into the warehouse, right?

[2:01:44] if you wanted to use that function of it, correct?

[2:01:49] Okay, and these are buildings that are not going to house an actual business, they're

[2:01:59] warehouse storage.

[2:02:04] No, the buildings would house actual businesses.

[2:02:09] Well, what I'm trying to say is one would be like a car painting shop.

[2:02:18] It's not a laughable by the conservation.

[2:02:20] We'll give you an example and I'll see credit your EDC director.

[2:02:25] Given the circumstances in this area and then all the limiting factors on the property,

[2:02:31] an ideal use would be a contractor, sales, and arts type function.

[2:02:35] So you have a contractor that has a sort of a retail front facing

[2:02:39] in these buildings, somebody can walk in and say,

[2:02:42] I want to remodel my house, show me samples.

[2:02:45] And then you're in the building itself.

[2:02:47] But if you want to see larger examples of the materials

[2:02:50] that they used, then you go in the back.

[2:02:52] And you can see the actual material.

[2:02:54] So that would be an ideal sort of business tenant in this space.

[2:03:00] Right.

[2:03:00] What I want to make sure that is a business that

[2:03:03] of B2s, what you're asking for? Correct. Okay. With the SUP of the warehouse and storage,

[2:03:13] so it's a warehouse type. But it shouldn't change what kind of business though. A B2 business,

[2:03:21] what we have listed is what could go in there. That I'll defer to Mr. Couch on that.

[2:03:32] But the

[2:03:33] SGP would be for warehouse and storage, and that would mean that any business that goes in,

[2:03:39] that would have to be the primary use of that business, would be warehouse or storage

[2:03:45] or or, or, or slide it on storage.

[2:03:48] So it could be a business that has a, like office front, like many warehouses have an office

[2:03:58] component, as they have to have to be a business, but the primary use is a warehouse

[2:04:04] and storage, what a a proposed use for this property is a landscaping business that has

[2:04:14] like their patio,

[2:04:18] pavers that would be stored on the property, as they would have a office

[2:04:26] component that would be an accessory to the warehouse in storage, but because it's an accessory

[2:04:31] use and not the primary use, the primary use is what we would go with for zoning purposes.

[2:04:39] And so the warehouse in storage zoning would be what would apply to that use.

[2:04:46] God.

[2:04:47] Nice answer.

[2:04:47] Okay.

[2:04:48] Thank you.

[2:04:49] That's it.

[2:04:50] Thank you.

[2:04:51] Council before I forget for the gentleman that spoke at the public hearing the you I think now

[2:05:00] I understand more of the details of the warehouse and the storage reference.

[2:05:04] It absolutely does not allow for a data center data storage on the property.

[2:05:11] No, no data items.

[2:05:20] Okay. Other questions for Mr.

[2:05:24] Just a director?

[2:05:26] Just a comment. Thank you for the thorough presentation and thank you for being good partners.

[2:05:35] I did have one question.

[2:05:37] So that open space in the back, that's where they could potentially store big chunkier items.

[2:05:44] That's correct.

[2:05:45] That open space would be considered non-impervious as they could store there in that open storage area.

[2:05:54] That's called that on the site plan.

[2:05:56] But that would still be sub-dip to that buffer between the houses and the open storage area.

[2:06:02] Okay.

[2:06:02] Thank you.

[2:06:03] And as Buffer are the trees, I saw the trees, they sent in the package to flip Buffer.

[2:06:14] I think in the presentation there was some trees, three tall trees there.

[2:06:20] Yes, so as part of this, especially the conditions recommended by staff, including a budgeted

[2:06:26] buffer to be approved by staff, so we would ensure that the buffer installed there would be

[2:06:33] a full visual buffer including trees, brush, if necessary, to make sure that it is a full visual

[2:06:39] buffer. And as well, part of our already existing code, any commercial use that is next to a residential

[2:06:48] use has to have a six foot fence that must be erected between the commercial and non-commercial use.

[2:07:00] And do we have something in place so that this doesn't become like an ice facility?

[2:07:07] And ice facility?

[2:07:10] No, it's not.

[2:07:11] Yeah, it's not zone four.

[2:07:12] So we're where house and storage is the extent of the

[2:07:17] Allow to use this by this SUV. So

[2:07:21] That would be that would be again zoning. Yes, all right. Thank you.

[2:07:29] Okay

[2:07:29] May I swat as I have a question for you?

[2:07:33] The motion that's going to be put to the floor

[2:07:36] For item it is it for B and C. We're gonna go be and I do them that individually be of the first

[2:07:43] I move we approve item 9B.

[2:07:46] Okay, they're second for item 2.

[2:07:51] On favour C.I.

[2:07:53] I will say no.

[2:07:56] Okay, carries.

[2:07:58] Can I have them see?

[2:07:59] Your motion.

[2:08:01] I move we approve item 9C.

[2:08:04] And I'll second.

[2:08:04] If I may, can we have that motion include the conditions set by staff?

[2:08:09] including the conditions on the condition sheet.

[2:08:13] Thank you.

[2:08:15] Yes, sir.

[2:08:15] I'll second that.

[2:08:16] With the conditions.

[2:08:18] On favor say aye.

[2:08:19] All right.

[2:08:20] Well say no.

[2:08:23] Thank you.

[2:08:24] Thank you.

[2:08:26] Thank you, Henry.

[2:08:27] Congratulations.

[2:08:28] Thank you.

[2:08:32] Item D.

[2:08:33] Question.

[2:08:34] It's a date time location approved after Robert Yao as the moderator for Meet the Candidate

[2:08:39] Senate.

[2:08:40] City Manager, City Secretary.

[2:08:49] Hello, again.

[2:08:51] This is, I mean, the City Secretary.

[2:08:53] This is to set the date in the moderator for Meet the Candidate.

[2:08:58] So according to Section 34.247, our court ordinances, we're able to host Meet the Candidates,

[2:09:06] which is supposed to be held the Thursday before early voting starts, so for this year

[2:09:10] that will be October 15th.

[2:09:12] I did reach out to Dr. Robert Yowl,

[2:09:15] who is a professor of political science,

[2:09:17] the coordinator of academic assessment

[2:09:19] at the Alamo Colleges at Northeast Lake View.

[2:09:21] And he's already agreed to come moderate

[2:09:23] once again, this is his ninth time doing it.

[2:09:26] So he does an amazing job.

[2:09:28] And the recommended time is at 6.30 here in the chambers.

[2:09:31] So I'm open to any questions.

[2:09:35] You right, it does a great job.

[2:09:40] I'm a commotion, or we'll approve item 90, that's perfect.

[2:09:46] On favor say aye.

[2:09:48] Both say no, carries.

[2:09:52] Thank you.

[2:09:53] Item E discussion for rational point,

[2:09:56] a part-to-recorded commission chair person,

[2:09:58] in accordance with Chapter 2.

[2:10:00] Article 3, division 1, section 2, there's 1, 3, 0, 85, public works director.

[2:10:05] Good evening, Mayor Council.

[2:10:06] Good night, look at us in the on-public worst director once again.

[2:10:10] Keep it short and sweet.

[2:10:11] The Parks Commission had a discussion, appropriate action and Mr. Orlando Cruz was nominated for

[2:10:18] chair for Parks and Recs Commission and then Mr. Shell South as Vice Chair, but we're here

[2:10:23] for the chair position. Motion passed unanimously.

[2:10:27] So stand by for any questions.

[2:10:31] I don't have a question, but I just want to congratulate them.

[2:10:34] These two on the work that they do for the parks and relax.

[2:10:37] I've worked with them two years.

[2:10:41] Not in a row, but I've been working with them for three years,

[2:10:44] and they both give a great time, a great part of their time,

[2:10:50] to our city and our parks and our activities that we do.

[2:10:54] So I just want to thank you for the work that you've already done, and hopefully we look forward to work you about today.

[2:11:03] Okay, first question, not we have a motion on item E.

[2:11:06] I'll make a motion.

[2:11:07] I'll remove item 90.

[2:11:09] I'll select it.

[2:11:11] On the favor say aye.

[2:11:13] Aye.

[2:11:13] Opposed say no.

[2:11:16] Thank you.

[2:11:18] I'm 10 A commissioned committed fourth PZ as a met, Parks and Rec, I will be next week.

[2:11:28] Animal Care.

[2:11:30] Meetings next Friday, the 11th at 1 p.m.

[2:11:33] Any regional?

[2:11:34] Have not met yet.

[2:11:36] And it's a city manager report.

[2:11:43] I don't have anything really to add except on September 14th.

[2:11:45] There will be a workshop at noon.

[2:11:49] A budget workshop.

[2:11:50] We'll be here too.

[2:11:52] Oh, in this council room.

[2:11:53] I don't know if that should be my idea.

[2:11:57] Okay.

[2:11:57] Thank you.

[2:11:58] I am C.

[2:12:03] I don't see reports anyone.

[2:12:05] I do.

[2:12:08] I attended the Meet the Patriots at Veterans Memorial.

[2:12:12] There's many commerce residents, teenagers that do participate in this school there.

[2:12:17] So I just want to say good luck and kudos to all of them.

[2:12:21] I also attended the Kitty Corner Daycare Grand Opening.

[2:12:25] Wonderful event.

[2:12:26] Great team there.

[2:12:28] owner is so nice, Danielle, attended the back to school bash. I believe there was 150 residents

[2:12:34] that attended that event before the awesome thunder storm ruined the party. Good job to you guys.

[2:12:42] It was fun. I love the DJ. He had everybody hyped up. I also wanted to let you guys know that we

[2:12:53] started our conversations with a viewer on the second annual

[2:12:58] Congress Silver Angel Tree, partnering with the PD again.

[2:13:03] Last year we gave out 55 gifts to the residents of a

[2:13:07] viewer this year. I look forward to doing it and we're going to get

[2:13:11] get it done a little bit earlier and announce things and stuff

[2:13:15] because last year it was done in 12 days.

[2:13:19] Just a little bit. And then also I wanted to give Kudos to

[2:13:23] Stan, Josh and Susan, I made a call, Stan was on vacation about possibly doing a capital

[2:13:31] project page on the city website and it went live yesterday and it looks awesome, it also

[2:13:38] has a video of the last update from Stan at the previous council meeting on there too,

[2:13:53] so

[2:13:54] let's see. I admit that I at least my last council meeting, I deferred it to today, so the

[2:14:01] track County luncheon, I attended that. I went to one of our citizens. She's celebrated 30 years.

[2:14:12] I don't have to say this without, without hitting hip of that, I should have been or you see.

[2:14:18] She's been successful for 30 years in the personal part of her life and she asked me to come out and be there with

[2:14:25] She and her guests and she had so much support and I was just so happy there to see her do we she that do her accomplishment that she has a

[2:14:34] She has a

[2:14:36] Converse citizen Mr. Jones. I I talked to him. He's one of the people

[2:14:42] Nemodet is back-sighted to that long-shadow trail, and so we're just happy guy, but that

[2:14:51] is a concern because they're getting snakes and scones and things that are coming into

[2:14:56] their yard, but it was very happy to see.

[2:15:00] The hot while training, you all feel it's all there. We all get there. We've got some great educational pieces that we've learned and you can see we have funds hanging out with each other.

[2:15:14] Appreciation of our young people. This is a young adult group that I started working with over a year ago. And so we did a research healing session last week.

[2:15:27] And so it was very proud to be a part of this discussion with these young people and see

[2:15:32] that perspective on how we're growing as a country and so that was really nice to do

[2:15:36] that.

[2:15:37] You see in the corner, they're dancing with the stars and I'm invited to come there every

[2:15:41] year.

[2:15:42] They try to get me to be a dancer with the stars, but I don't know if that's going to happen,

[2:15:47] but if it does, well, it's going to be such a great fundraiser with a support and give back

[2:15:53] to our nonprofits in the city.

[2:15:55] so very nice to be there and be recognized with the city of commerce. And then lastly,

[2:16:00] the young lady down at the bottom, you see, she's a citizen here in commerce. She's at

[2:16:05] Mettoness Hospital. And she recognized me from council. She said, can I just have a photo with you?

[2:16:11] And so I stopped and took a photo with her there and mettoness hospital. The next slide,

[2:16:17] I've been asked to be the master of ceremony. This is September 26. You all, you all, you all,

[2:16:23] and find it. It is like evening of spiritual harmony. You see what they are already with the

[2:16:29] mic, that's because I've done this about nine years. This was my 10th year doing it. And it's

[2:16:35] so much fun. It's why I encourage all of you to come out to support this is a fundraiser for

[2:16:41] historically, but colleges and so I would love for you to come out and support me in that.

[2:16:46] I have two items I would like to talk about. Last week we had a guy get up in prison

[2:16:53] a 15 minute presentation reading it.

[2:16:57] I would like when this should just me hopefully you are with support men is when people are presenting.

[2:17:02] I loved the one tonight. He was under five minutes. It was short. He hit the highlights.

[2:17:07] And he didn't waste our time. I think it's a waste of time when people get up and give us those long presentations.

[2:17:13] Also, it'd be nice if it's going to be something bulky that we get at a head of time.

[2:17:17] And then they could just hit the high points and then we can have open discussion.

[2:17:21] And so, whoever is allowing people to get up and just take our turn, I take their turn,

[2:17:27] presenting to us, I would like them to, I would like to see them keep it between three

[2:17:31] five minutes and then let us ask questions that we want, if we get the back of it at a time.

[2:17:39] Sorry. And then lastly, I just want to think the, the Susan and Stan and then Josh,

[2:17:47] you all are doing a fantastic job that's keeping us updated on what's going on in the city.

[2:17:51] on the other reports, you make sure that we know about all of the training that's going on

[2:17:57] that we can be a part of, and so we don't say enough, but we really do appreciate you all

[2:18:02] in what you're doing with your staff as well. So thank you for going through budgets and all the

[2:18:08] things that you go through with us, we really appreciate it.

[2:18:18] Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor. Whenever you're done,

[2:18:23] And I need to point something out in the ask if the council wants to fix it.

[2:18:31] I'm going through my notes.

[2:18:32] I want to make a little anal retensive about this part.

[2:18:36] The motion to point the Parks and Rec chair was just the motion to a point to approve

[2:18:42] 9E.

[2:18:43] It doesn't actually list who you're appointing.

[2:18:45] Go back.

[2:18:47] Yes, sir.

[2:18:47] Thank you.

[2:18:48] Thank you.

[2:18:48] that we didn't have.

[2:18:50] That's why you're here.

[2:18:52] We haven't been about that first.

[2:18:54] So they won't pick me up in the morning.

[2:18:57] Okay.

[2:19:00] Mr. Farmer.

[2:19:05] Since our garbage now has been changed

[2:19:11] to where

[2:19:13] it's one day a week for both containers.

[2:19:17] Is there any way we can change

[2:19:19] the scheduling of the street sweeper, because let's take for instance, it's the third week of the month.

[2:19:29] Okay, and my garbage day is Monday, and when does the street sweeper come? Monday.

[2:19:37] So why can't the schedule be changed to Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, whatever,

[2:19:42] so that they don't have to go up and down around the trash cans.

[2:19:48] Okay, and another thing doesn't the street sweeper supposed to have water in it because all they're doing is pushing dust.

[2:20:01] I thought

[2:20:06] so, you know, because I went outside, I got a face full dust, you know, and I'm figure I know it's, I know that it's sweeping the curb, but, you know, I just think maybe some of that dirt that they're pushing around you, that could be sucked up into the thing too, so, okay, but I just thought what asked maybe to change the streets we've been scheduled.

[2:20:34] Thank you.

[2:20:38] Yes, sir. Thank you. I also attended the Kitty Corner Reopening. And today I

[2:20:50] RSPP for the business luncheon that EDC is going to be doing in the month of September,

[2:21:00] so I'll be going to that. And I have some questions for the city manager. I think I

[2:21:08] call, I don't know if it was at the last budget workshop, but or maybe it was in a council meeting.

[2:21:18] We needed to bid out for depository. Has that been done yet?

[2:21:24] You're talking about the financial thinking? Yes sir. No, we're going to wait till right after this budget

[2:21:30] passed and the finance department has bandwidth to create that RFP. So it's going to go out in October.

[2:21:39] When does it expire?

[2:21:40] When does it expire?

[2:21:41] When does it expire?

[2:21:42] I don't think it's far.

[2:21:45] She already left.

[2:21:45] I don't think it's far.

[2:21:47] I think it's we're still under a contract right now.

[2:21:50] I hope so, because I thought I heard her say.

[2:21:52] Yes, she says September.

[2:21:55] Well, I remember what my recollection is when we met with one bank that was interested

[2:22:00] several months ago, is that we were still under a contract with the current bank.

[2:22:08] for quite a while, but we could go out to RFP and we decided at that point, let's wait until

[2:22:13] we get past the budget and we'll do it in October and do the RFP.

[2:22:18] So, we're still in a contract?

[2:22:20] Yes.

[2:22:22] With our current.

[2:22:25] And my recollection is she was a one-year contract, it was a contract, and it ended, but she

[2:22:30] continued it, and which was wrong, but she kicked it to the contract with our city council.

[2:22:36] But it did expire in September.

[2:22:39] That was what she had told me.

[2:22:41] That's why I asked for you the day.

[2:22:44] It was an August that we needed to put it out because we don't want to be rushed.

[2:22:52] Well, we do have a plane for October to put it out.

[2:22:55] As long as we're still on the contract.

[2:22:58] We have a plane.

[2:22:59] They're providing services.

[2:23:00] They're also providing services.

[2:23:02] Okay. All right. And then a couple of items that I would like to request once again.

[2:23:13] And I feel a little insecure about saying this in open session.

[2:23:20] But I would like to know why we can't have an executive session posted on each agenda.

[2:23:28] But if we don't need to go into executive session, then we don't need to.

[2:23:33] But some things that we discuss, I think we should discuss in executive.

[2:23:40] And I'd like to know why we can't put executive session on every agenda.

[2:23:46] Well, at the city of attorney answer that one.

[2:23:48] So it would be Mr. President.

[2:23:49] answer in the main ground.

[2:23:52] So, technically, the opening means that the concept of executive session doesn't have to be anywhere on your agenda.

[2:24:01] If an item that is on the agenda triggers a need to go into executive session, you're going to do executive session.

[2:24:08] It does not have to be separated out in executive session.

[2:24:12] Okay, but you might want to stress that you could still only go into executive session if it meets the parameters for executive session.

[2:24:20] You just can't go into it because you want to go into it because, yeah, and it has to be an item currently on the agenda that you're talking about.

[2:24:26] You can't, you know, bring in a new one and it has to meet the requirements for executive session, you know, constellation with attorney, purchase of property, economic development, those that allow executive staff, personnel, yes, that's seven, seven, four, yes, men.

[2:24:39] And so you can go into an executive session on any of those for any posted item without it being posted as exact.

[2:24:48] Okay.

[2:24:49] Is that answer your question, Matt?

[2:24:50] Yes, thank you very much.

[2:24:51] All right, so Mr. Farmer, there's some things that I'd like to request that we all get documentation of.

[2:25:00] Your contract,

[2:25:04] your organizational chart,

[2:25:09] and what I asked for before, the requested budget, let's say, how do I put that?

[2:25:21] When you asked each department to submit their wish list budgets, before you cut out items, there are original budgets that they submitted to you,

[2:25:34] before you did any cut in that document.

[2:25:39] I provided that to you, a paper copy,

[2:25:42] and I had adding as notes.

[2:25:45] I remember I stood up there and I gave it to you several meetings ago.

[2:25:50] And I said, this is the paper copy.

[2:25:52] We found that it has some notes from her because I remember saying that part.

[2:25:56] But I was, I think I had it in a minute.

[2:25:57] I'll handle it too.

[2:26:00] Okay.

[2:26:01] I'm happy now. I don't think I'd dream.

[2:26:03] I will search for that. You said it.

[2:26:05] Well, if it was vanilla, I'd remember.

[2:26:09] But maybe I have received it.

[2:26:11] And if I haven't.

[2:26:12] I'll ask you, I'll ask that.

[2:26:13] I'll leave it again.

[2:26:14] I will let you go.

[2:26:16] But those things I would like for you to please provide to us.

[2:26:20] And I'm done.

[2:26:23] I don't need to thank you.

[2:26:25] Okay, if one minor one did attend the Chidi Corner Learning Center

[2:26:30] I've never even cutting you with air, and you with air.

[2:26:34] So I appreciate what was a nice, nice,

[2:26:35] fair and cutting, nice addition family business,

[2:26:39] sporty converse, attended our monthly

[2:26:43] eight-card board of directors, meeting,

[2:26:45] no eight-known U.S. youths,

[2:26:47] had some emergency management actions this weekend.

[2:26:50] We got the map from CPS Energy.

[2:26:54] I think I said an email to all the council

[2:26:55] that didn't know what had happened,

[2:26:57] And it was a residence that lost power in San Antonio and was having news conference and we were getting calls as well.

[2:27:05] And it turned out that the map said five residences.

[2:27:09] And so, I emailed the text message, the city manager that we needed to take action and check on those residences.

[2:27:17] There's a hundred plus degrees outside.

[2:27:20] And I got a whole of Chief Lane called me back.

[2:27:23] It's Chief Lane said he would take care of it.

[2:27:26] He would respond right away and Sergeant Luzano from the PD.

[2:27:30] Checked out, it was an odd half in subdivision.

[2:27:33] And it was 10 houses, 10 houses, instead of 5.

[2:27:38] And all but one house had plans to move for the night.

[2:27:43] And Sergeant Luzano said that he would take care of it

[2:27:45] keep an eye on that family that was going to remain at the residence and one asked, Chief

[2:27:52] of all this contact to me, he asked me what he could do and I said, we could ask the

[2:27:57] on-do the shift to help sergeant was going to keep an eye on the residence. So that's what

[2:28:03] we did. We were there for the residence and I did get a couple of calls from the residence

[2:28:08] that did lead. Thank you for caring, which is very important that we took action and check

[2:28:15] And we had another one on 302 Avenue A had a hard time getting CPS to understand that a tree

[2:28:22] had fallen in the street and they talked to the area director and I guess their command

[2:28:29] of control is not as great as ours and it took a long time to get, I don't even know

[2:28:33] if anybody ever went out there and bugging the lines.

[2:28:36] I know that you talked to the youth regarding Nemo cutting the tree again, the tree

[2:28:44] of the street up the street, it's all gone, but we don't know if CPS fixed.

[2:28:51] I believe they, well, I don't officially, but we never close the black street.

[2:28:55] Yeah, because I get callin' afternoon and he said, he's a jar of spawning, but that CPS

[2:28:59] because he had to respond, you know, to reconnect the wires, because the way the tree branch fell

[2:29:05] on the wire, and he just ripped them off the house.

[2:29:08] Yeah, it was, it was Ms. Ben Brooks house, you know, and all over.

[2:29:12] I was trying to help her get to CPS but working now, CPS is not as easy some time when there.

[2:29:20] 100,000 houses in San Antonio.

[2:29:23] They give priority to the amp and not us.

[2:29:28] So that's what we had to do.

[2:29:31] They get calls a couple weeks ago regarding the items tonight on the ATZ1.

[2:29:38] Z1, they wanted to make sure that we didn't build any houses there, so we were part of the agreement.

[2:29:49] That was not going to happen, so I can call them back tomorrow, I don't know that it didn't happen.

[2:29:54] We happy because they're always concerned about encroachment.

[2:30:00] And so that was great that Henry and his team to care that before.

[2:30:06] Got a letter from the SNS plumbing company. Those that did attend the ribbon cutting yard remember that.

[2:30:14] That was contractives said.

[2:30:16] It's a marriage for us. Thank you for helping make our 20th anniversary celebration special.

[2:30:20] We truly appreciate your heartfelt words.

[2:30:23] City of Commerce, commemorative coins and meaningful presentation, your support of S&S and the

[2:30:30] Commerce Business Community has mentioned so much to us.

[2:30:33] We are grateful to be part of this wonderful community, appreciate all you do since here

[2:30:39] thanks to Stephen and Cheryl's Tannish, that's very great to see people who have been

[2:30:43] moved in business and commerce for a long time and felt appreciated and very glad that

[2:30:50] their business here.

[2:30:52] That opportunity to do multiple, turn out to be a couple of hours of work.

[2:31:00] Multiple interviews with Telemundo, television and Spanish regarding the cleared the shelters

[2:31:06] at the Animal Care Facility with Joe Jolves getting more.

[2:31:10] It was great live television, and I didn't know we had any Spanish speakers in commerce

[2:31:19] because I got calls from them too, so that was neat.

[2:31:23] You know, the information is carried.

[2:31:25] You know, this is a great job.

[2:31:29] So, I'm going to do the shelter for thinking outside the box

[2:31:31] and working with him.

[2:31:33] That's what I was doing.

[2:31:36] Was, yeah, that's their situation.

[2:31:40] OK.

[2:31:42] And there's what?

[2:31:43] That in the warehouse hole that you were talking about

[2:31:45] and North Hampton that needed something.

[2:31:49] Is everything okay now?

[2:31:50] I got power to the whole area.

[2:31:52] Okay, they do have power in there.

[2:31:53] It's nothing showing.

[2:31:54] They're back in there.

[2:31:55] And it's only still having issues.

[2:31:58] Right, but I want to know about that conference resident.

[2:32:01] Yeah, okay.

[2:32:03] Okay.

[2:32:04] Okay, I don't mean 11.

[2:32:06] A German, I don't know for it.

[2:32:07] That's not me.

[2:32:09] The 90.

[2:32:09] Oh, we've got to make them a great essay.

[2:32:13] All right, we're going back to item 90 for the City Attorney's Direction, discussion of

[2:32:19] production, to appoint a Parks Recreation Commission Chairperson, according to Chapter 2,

[2:32:24] Article 3 Division I, Section 2, SB 13085, and the other works for it.

[2:32:29] It's your motion.

[2:32:31] All right.

[2:32:31] I make the motion that we appoint in the story of Hando Cruz as chair and vice chair.

[2:32:39] It's well.

[2:32:39] Okay, I'll handle Cruz this chair.

[2:32:42] I'll set it on favor C.I.

[2:32:46] I'll say no.

[2:32:47] Don't think you're okay.

[2:32:50] I'll take you up in the morning.

[2:32:53] Yeah, I'm 11.

[2:32:54] The German have no further businessy council meetings.

[2:32:57] The German at 9.31.

[2:32:58] Great work.

[2:32:59] Have a good night.

[2:33:00] Safe.

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