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I'll need to order to start out with the
pledge
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America.
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To the republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible, with
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liberty and justice for all.
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Remember roll call, please, Nicole.
>> Trustee Bedell?
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» Here.
>> Trustee Clark?
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» Here.
>> Trustee Kessinger?
[0:33]
» Here.
>> Trustee Sellers?
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» Here.
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» Fire Chief is excused tonight.
We need a motion to approve minutes of
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regular meeting July 1st and special
meeting on July 8th.
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» I'll make it.
>> All those in favor?
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» Aye.
>> Opposed?
[0:52]
Just to note on the follow-up on the
July 8th meeting, we do have a couple
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things that we got to follow up on the
drug and alcohol testing policy
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and the dress being a public employer,
health emergency plan.
[1:04]
» I did mention in the book we're sending
that drug and alcohol 1995 version over.
[1:10]
We're definitely going to update that.
>> I told you it was outdated. I wasn't
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exaggerating.
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» Okay.
Um
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specific requests, we have none. Board
finances, we have none. Are there any
[1:23]
public comments on the agenda items only
tonight?
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Okay.
Then we'll move ahead and go to uh
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department reports.
Nicole, clerk treasurer report, please.
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» I need a motion to approve abstract
number three in the amount of payroll,
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$51,555.21,
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general, $105,638.96,
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water, $6,546.78,
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sewer, $11,322.18,
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and capital projects, $3,020.
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» All those in favor?
Opposed?
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» I did have a question for the board. The
new website seems
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probably about 90% good to go.
And I am able to go in and do updates on
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certain things. I posted the minutes on
there. We've been trying to keep both
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sites updated. So, I was going to
request if
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I can get that
first week of August if I can make that
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live so that we're no longer doing both
sides.
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» I got a list and four pictures I want to
upload onto it.
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» Okay.
>> One of the pictures is
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corn fields
>> Yes, that was kind of a placeholder.
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» Yeah, so
Um yeah, so
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Yeah, I went through I'm going to matter
of fact, I'll send it to the whole
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board.
And then you can go through it.
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It is a lot
more user-friendly than the old version
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that we have now.
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But yes, I'm okay with that.
Perfect.
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Okay, we've got to start somewhere, all
right?
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» It is so much easier to update also. I
don't have to try to write code anymore
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when I'm
pretending to know what I'm doing.
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Um
And the rest of my report is for your
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information. If you have any questions,
I'd be happy to answer them.
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» I Go ahead. I have one.
>> Um I just wanted to call attention to
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the
FOIL request from a Cameron Ship that
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PRC Company.
He is a wealth of knowledge and
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curiosity and he is
providing the LinkedIn
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uh consulting and transaction advisory
services to PRC Company.
[3:50]
And uh PRC
uh, be talking
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construction management services.
and they're interested in feedback and
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the builders by
the United Nations.
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What he's requesting environmental
records for the property.
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» Yeah, I just had a question on the Jacob
Ellis surety bonds and the sheriff and
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public officials.
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» We don't have surety bonds, but I sent
the insurance for public officials
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insurance we have.
>> Okay.
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Okay.
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Anything you want to add tonight, Arty?
>> We have that old sewer lateral at 13
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Sherman Avenue with the primary cut and
cap. And then after that, we'll be doing
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blacktop blacktop patching next week.
We'll install that pull out stop next
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week and then after that, we're going to
hit all letters and we'll be getting
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done after 27th of July and we'll be
done. We'll be up there for most of the
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project.
Okay.
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» Um, the only thing you want to bring up
tonight, building inspector?
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» No, I'm all good.
>> Okay.
[5:05]
All right.
Um, under old business, review language
[5:10]
of potential moratorium on battery
storage and data center applications.
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Um,
I know I reviewed it many, many times.
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» You know, I did send you a question,
Carlo, about 12 months versus six.
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Um,
what's you thought email?
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» I didn't, but you can do it long term.
>> Well, the the question I had was um,
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one,
does it hurt us the potential of getting
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the moratorium and who's the decision
maker that really approves it?
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» You are.
>> Okay.
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» This board is
>> Right.
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» The county just tells you, yes, this is,
you know, there's no usually they'll say
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no county impact or um if there is a
county impact, if the planning board the
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county planning board says, "No, we
don't agree you should do this." This
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board just needs a supermajority to
overrule that.
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But you can do 12 months. I mean, and
actually to uh Mr. Kitzman's um
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point earlier today, since the data
center moratorium from the state is 12
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months, it might make sense to have this
one be 12 months with the additional,
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you know, time to renew it.
>> So, we don't have to do that.
[6:23]
So, that's that's one comment I had on
it. How about the rest of the board?
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What are the discussions around the
whole plan?
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I didn't see anything wrong with it.
So, I would be in agreement with the 12
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months.
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And I don't think we really need to do a
size after reading what we have there.
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If we're just saying this
>> Correct.
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The size has to do with what the state
is doing, but if we have it general,
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that'll cover it.
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» Okay.
So, with that, it sounds like the board
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is okay with the
draft that
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you did
um or that Carl did, except for going to
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12 months.
Okay.
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» Can I ask one question? Um
There's a extension in there right now
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to extend it for two additional 6-month
periods. Do you want to do two
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additional 12-month periods?
>> Oh, why not?
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That's my opinion.
>> This one?
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» Okay.
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» So the next step is you would refer this
to the
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village planning board for their review.
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recommendation. So you would make a
motion for that.
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» I'll make it.
All those in favor?
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Opposed?
>> Okay.
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» I will send this to village planning
board. I will also give county planning
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a heads-up on this. I do want to let you
know that
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Saratoga County has so many of these
right now and there's a lot of other
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zoning codes that Jason Kemper
was indicating that they're a little
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behind. So this may not be as
done quickly as we had hoped. Just to
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let you know.
>> So what does that do if someone
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is going to
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» Right now this isn't on the book.
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I mean if they met any other if you know
if they met everything within the
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current zoning code
I don't know how they meet within the
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current zoning code but
you never know what projects would come
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in.
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» I see Albany's got one pending.
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Okay.
We're good on that? Good vote.
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» [clears throat]
>> Okay.
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We'll go to new business. Consider
mayor's signature on contract with the
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individuals for fire department
administrative duties.
[9:23]
» Um we have this out in the past and it
was just
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approval for you to sign the contracts
with the officers
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for the business.
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doing the doing the station work and
it's going back to the officers now.
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Okay. Same thing we did when we had the
monthly
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» It's still
>> It's a list that
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» Same office. It's the chief and the four
assistants plus the two station keepers.
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So
>> Do we know who the individuals are
[9:51]
because we have to mention it?
>> Hollingsworth and senior.
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» Okay, perfect.
Same amount?
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» Same amount of money as last year.
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» Who is paying?
>> The fire district.
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» Who is he working for?
>> Yep, he's working.
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» Okay.
[10:13]
So we need a
motion for that?
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» Yes.
>> I'll make it.
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» I'll make it.
>> All those in favor?
[10:20]
» Aye.
>> Opposed?
[10:23]
Okay.
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The next item is a seek of resolution
for lead survey line inventory grant
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application.
Um
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Basically
it's uh
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what we're talking about here is
the uh the village board of trustees
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hereby determine that the lead service
line inventory project as described
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above is a type two action pursuant to
seek route
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and six
NYCRR
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617
and several different
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uh
bullet points and therefore not subject
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to further environmental review under
seek route.
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And the second point is no environmental
assessment form, negative declaration,
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positive declaration, or environmental
impact statement required.
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The third point is the mayor, village
clerk, treasurer, and village staff are
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authorized to take such further action
as they be necessary to document this
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determination in connection with the WEA
lead service line inventory grant.
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So basically it's telling us we don't
have to do anything environmental to be
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able to
apply for this one image or grant that's
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going to help the village.
Corning
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and uh
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the verge is uh
the same meaning of that.
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Any questions or discussions around
that?
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Okay.
So
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are we going to be a roll call on this?
>> We probably should be a roll call on
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this.
>> Okay.
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» So someone needs to make a motion.
>> Are we better off doing
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Huh? Are we better off doing it so that
it stays as a environmental impact?
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» This is a
>> No, it's a type two action.
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» Yeah, it's a suspenders and a belt thing
because since it's a type two you don't
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need to do anything, but Don Rhodes felt
it'd be better to have it documented
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that it's a type two and you don't need
to do anything for the application
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process.
>> Right.
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How many How many did
>> Second.
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» All those in favor?
>> I.
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» I.
>> Opposed?
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Okay.
Thank you.
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» Do you want me to do a roll call now?
>> I think
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We don't
>> Right.
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Okay.
Meeting adjourned, right?
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Sorry, I had to.
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You too. How you doing, bud?
The next bullet is discuss proposed IMA
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with the town of Corinth. Inter-
inter-municipality agreement.
[13:03]
Um
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Carla drafted one. It's uh pretty
comprehensive, quite honestly.
[13:11]
Very good job. Um
We've had some uh stickiness with the
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town
um
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recently with some uh agreements that
have been verbal and courtesy
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um
back and forth on using equipment,
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um services.
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» [clears throat]
>> And uh
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I think it stems from the
prior contract amount that we sent to
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them,
but honestly
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and
so
[13:43]
looking at this agreement
uh my personal view right now tonight
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is I don't want to make a decision on
it, but it's a board decision. I want to
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spend some time talking to Arty about
it, get some more information about it,
[13:56]
what's going to be the biggest impact of
him and his crew.
[13:59]
Um
and uh
[14:04]
I got I guess that's where it stands
right now. Basically, what it will say
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is that um we would set rates for work
we did for them, they would set rates
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that
um
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they did work for us.
Borrowing equipment.
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Back and forth.
So on and so forth. So
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once we get one through this agreement,
then it's going to be
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My concern about it is the only concern
I have is um
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making a hardship for Arty and his crew.
The doubles. That's my only concern.
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So
I personally would like to
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back this out a little bit more before
we make a decision on
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» Arty, do you think
Arty can track with everything?
[14:53]
» So whatever you guys and your guys are
calling things for them, they're renting
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out equipment and everything with
equipment doing. That's all ready done.
[15:01]
So it's not going to be very hard for
you to get
[15:04]
It's probably easier going to talk. So
So for cost cost purposes, it won't be
[15:09]
very hard to You know, put that right
there. You're already getting that
[15:12]
stuff.
>> All right.
[15:14]
Um
[15:17]
Would it incur any extra work on your
end for anything?
[15:19]
» Not on my end.
>> No?
[15:21]
Only
Just money.
[15:23]
» Yeah.
>> In the grand scheme of things, what is
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it really going to cost?
[15:29]
» I don't I I didn't get a chance to look
look at that at all.
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I think it's exactly that amount.
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» A little lot that is. So, maybe we'll
get it through.
[15:47]
» Yeah.
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» My personal view is we'll shut it down.
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» Council, do you think that it might
something that we should have some kind
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of agreement?
>> Yeah, yeah. I don't disagree with that.
[16:03]
I just think we need to There's a couple
things I want to dig into. What honestly
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is what the village taxpayers pay for in
the town. I know there's two different
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budgets for the town.
Town and
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out of town.
Basically. And so, they split it up. So,
[16:21]
I I started digging into their
equipment, but honestly to find out if
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it's um
But it's actually three different
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buckets that they can go through. So,
I just want to make sure that we know
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because if village taxpayers are paying
a share of equipment
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for the town, I mean, we pay town taxes
even in the village.
[16:41]
Right? So,
I want to I just want to dig into
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exactly what that is. And
I I didn't have time enough today to do
[16:49]
it, but I I did
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Right.
That's why I
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I don't disagree with that, but
but honestly, I care about the village
[17:02]
and and Ardsley.
That's what I care about. So, I want to
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make sure before we sign anything, we
dig in a hole that
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could be worse for us. And I think we
just need to
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temper ourselves and take the It's to do
do our due diligence on that.
[17:18]
» I think at the very least we should work
towards an I M A, even if there's not
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going to be any cost incurred for the
for the agreement that we'll share our
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equipment.
>> Yeah, I agree with that. I think I think
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there should be Yeah, I think
>> gentleman's agreement than it's actually
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something documented. It'll either be
shared or
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it won't be shared and then charge for
the usage if you do it.
[17:37]
» No, that's a good point. And the other
thing is too, right?
[17:41]
None of us are going to be here forever.
So, you don't know what relationships
[17:46]
superintendents are going to have with
each other or
[17:50]
boards and whatever. So, if it's in
writing then that's what you
[17:54]
reference and that's what you go with.
Not that uh you
[17:59]
Right, John said that
you need to do this and
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1995
[18:08]
Should I continue
Should I continue to fill in for
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Albert when he's
>> Yeah, I think I think business as usual.
[18:15]
» And but honestly, you you know,
interesting enough to stem from the that
[18:20]
or also we just got a letter saying that
we're going to be charged $1,500 a day
[18:25]
for the paver. That's what they charge
other municipalities for
[18:29]
consumables on the paver but I don't
know what that is but
[18:33]
um
So,
[18:36]
I say business as usual for the village
and if we have to incur I told Eric that
[18:40]
we will pay that. It'll be part of the
project that Hardy works on, not to hold
[18:44]
up what we plan to do for the village
cuz if we went outside to have to do it,
[18:48]
it'd be a lot more than that.
So, business as usual I'd say.
[18:56]
You got to let me know that though.
Yep.
[18:59]
Yep.
You know whatever it was you had.
[19:03]
So, is everybody okay with right now
tabling this and doing more
[19:06]
investigation?
>> Yeah.
[19:08]
» Yes.
>> One of the board members agreed
[19:10]
» Okay.
>> We'll look into it more.
[19:12]
» Good.
>> So, have you
[19:13]
put questions have you spoke
>> with
[19:17]
the town attorney?
>> Yes, I have.
[19:19]
» And how is What is his feeling about it?
>> We had a short
[19:24]
interlude last night at the
concert.
[19:36]
Yes.
It It stems from the fire contract,
[19:39]
right?
[19:42]
Which is interesting because the fire
contract has been
[19:45]
um
contentious for years.
[19:48]
Right?
[19:51]
So, anyway. Okay, so we're going to
we're going to hold that.
[19:59]
less than the average of 10 years.
[20:03]
Okay.
Um
[20:07]
The next item I wanted to put back on
the agenda. I did quite a bit of
[20:11]
research on
age restrictions at beaches in New York
[20:14]
State. I told you the last meeting that
I started digging into it. So,
[20:22]
quite honestly,
15 was the age we determined, right?
[20:29]
That's quite honestly with lifeguards,
that's a little bit old compared to the
[20:33]
average of New York State beaches. Um at
beaches that don't have lifeguards, they
[20:39]
recommend anybody 16
and under has to have parental or adult
[20:45]
supervision.
The majority of people have, but I just
[20:48]
wanted to bring it up and discuss it.
What our thoughts were moving ahead
[20:52]
because we're going to order signs to
put down there, and I want to make sure
[20:56]
in the the clock's ticking here.
It's mid-July already.
[20:59]
But,
what what the what everybody thinks
[21:03]
what that number should be.
>> I think it should be 15 things the group
[21:07]
of kids you have a problem with are
there for the parking
[21:13]
Okay.
>> What did you find out when you were
[21:15]
doing that? For for future reference
with life guards, what would be
[21:18]
happening
>> Well, the first thing
[21:32]
I would say it worked out.
If you give me
[21:36]
paper with the numbers on
in case you got to change it already.
[21:39]
Throw them in the freezer.
They'll last a long time when you throw
[21:42]
them in the freezer.
Really at the end of the day, if they're
[21:45]
down there not causing problems,
nobody's going to ask you to
[21:49]
If they're down there causing problems,
[21:56]
» I also covered something like that.
Somebody pulled up with a car.
[22:00]
Kids don't pick you up until after work.
>> Yeah.
[22:07]
Okay. I'll give you that answer. We're
not going to need to beat a dead horse.
[22:10]
Okay. Great.
All right.
[22:15]
With that, we'll move on to public
comment.
[22:17]
Uh questions or concerns from the public
on anything.
[22:22]
Jim?
>> Yeah.
[22:23]
» Come right up to the Can you put that
mic right up on the thing now?
[22:29]
Hopefully uh
we're going to get
[22:33]
Wi-Fi here from Mr. Bill.
[22:39]
» Uh Jim Murray, 411 Center Street
Village.
[22:43]
Um
are you still moving forward you talked
[22:46]
that two three meetings or more about
having a
[22:51]
extra attendant between Pack and Satcher
and
[22:55]
» Yes. Yes. Yes. I I've interviewed two
people already.
[22:58]
» Yeah.
[23:00]
» I'm going to continue that. this.
>> Yeah.
[23:03]
I I think that's that's the right way to
go. I really do.
[23:07]
And from what I understand, I guess a
lot of the other beaches do the same
[23:12]
thing.
You know, beaches and parks and like
[23:16]
that. They have somebody to assist the
lifeguard and the parking attendant.
[23:21]
Okay.
>> Yeah, we're looking and we just did hire
[23:24]
a a new lifeguard.
She's a nice young lady.
[23:35]
I think we did put an ad quite a while
ago, didn't we?
[23:39]
» We had put an ad a
couple of months ago, so I just gave you
[23:42]
all the applications.
>> Yeah, and that's
[23:46]
Yeah.
And I and I interviewed two.
[23:58]
That's a good point.
I will say though,
[24:01]
I I talked to the lifeguards every day
and the park attendants every day, maybe
[24:05]
every other day, park attendants, and
it's a lot calmer with someone so far.
[24:13]
At both places.
It's good to hear.
[24:18]
And I I see it
too. I don't see any many
[24:22]
motorized vehicles on the road.
[24:36]
Any other public comments tonight?
[24:42]
» Got a few things on my chest want to get
off. Um,
[24:46]
John Tanguay, 16 Wall Street. Um,
had a fire at my neighbor's house today,
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burned down.
People are all okay. They lost a cat.
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But it really uh you know it was about
5:00 in the morning. It opens your eyes
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up when you see all those
fire companies. It wasn't just Corinth,
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it was Greenfield, it was
Hadley. I mean there was there was tons
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of trucks. And um
So, I want to just talk a little bit
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about you know public safety and um
you know
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our budget. You know what our what our
plan is.
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Um
Couple meetings ago comment was made
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that some big cuts something something
big had to happen.
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Some changes. So, um I don't know if
if you have any of those to announce or
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any any plans uh or you know ideas.
Um I have a few. Um
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» [clears throat]
>> First thing is
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it seems like now 4th of July was great.
Our downtown looks great. Um
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I'm going to some
zoning board meetings.
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Um
The plan for Jack's uh to be made into a
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nine-unit building
and a couple storefronts. Um
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They'd have to change the actual zoning
in order for the first floor to be made
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apartments in the business business
district. That's on the books.
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Um
I'm all for this this gentleman.
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Um
We listened to him talk by phone.
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He's spent uh quite a bit of money here.
He owns over 60 units. Um
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Now I know which ones they are. I think
it's great. Um I'd love to see these
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properties fixed up. I don't want to be
against him.
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Um
I just feel this is a really bad idea
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and I'm I'm going to reach out to him
and
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you know as a fellow you know landlord
in in in the business of real estate. Um
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we don't want to discourage
him from coming or spending his money
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here. But um
you know,
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if you change that,
that means every storefront
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downtown
can do the same thing.
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Okay, so
I felt this board and the mayor should
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know that.
That if you open that door
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and they and you guys they formed this
committee 16 17 years ago.
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Louise Kirkpatrick was on it. I wish she
was here and could have explained it a
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little better than me, but I'm just
going off of the people who spoke.
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Um
I I just think that, you know,
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we are financially
you know, we're it's tight as you know.
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Um you know, you lost money with Indeck.
You lost money with IP.
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We've never replaced any of that money.
I don't see how we're going to. Maybe
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I don't know. In a year
you'll do some studies and the battery
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plant will be not a bad thing. Maybe
it'll make us money.
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Um but I want to know what's good for
the community. I don't want just the
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money.
So um
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some of the things,
you know, that I've seen
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just recently.
This same gentleman who's bought all
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these buildings
for
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I don't know, 3 months
at the end of Walmart
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and Fit. He bought the two, the four
unit. Did a nice job on it. It's a gray
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one.
I don't think he completed it. There's
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still some broken steps that should be
fixed, but um and then the white one on
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the corner.
And he put a new roof on it, did quite a
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bit of work. Um
but for 3 months
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a trailer
sat there
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on that lot.
There was never a trailer there and I
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believe the ordinance is
you can't have a trailer
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or even replace if you replace it, it
had to be from an existing trailer that
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was on that spot.
Now, I don't know if I'm correct, and
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maybe Neil can answer that after if he
wants, or he can do it now, but
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that was there.
So,
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I said something. I know Go ahead.
>> Was it a mobile home or
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» No, no, it was a a
>> camper?
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» No, no, it was it was a trailer. It was
an actual trailer that you that you
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mount on the ground and you hook up like
we have on on Ash some parts of Ash
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Street. We have trailers there, okay? Um
they were working on this trailer.
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So, I don't know how
when we're
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you know, getting a
huge makeover on that building
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and the one on the end
how that got away. How did that happen?
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How did that not get How did he not get
a fine? How did he not get a warning?
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Okay? How come it took us
that to call the village and say, "Hey,
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what the heck is going on?"
So, then what the guy did
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in the middle of the night
he moved that trailer.
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Pulled it down Palmer. No light, no
nothing. Just pulled it down Palmer
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backed it down by the
credit union
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and squeezed it into that little corner
and then popped up fences in a matter of
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hours
to block it in there. I don't I don't
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know if it's there still.
It shouldn't be. It was never there
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before.
My point to all this is
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we've cut the fire department.
We've cut DPW.
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I don't really feel like we cut
anything. We just didn't have the money
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anymore. So, we didn't give them
$250,000 a year
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in the to buy equipment or to to have in
their slush funds.
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Um
We need to move
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the way we do business.
Okay? I mean, we had
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in the last 14 years, I think we
probably spent $30 million on
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infrastructure.
Sidewalks, curbs, um sewer, water. We
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did all that. We had to do it. It's the
right thing to do. We had a lot of
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money.
We had a lot of money coming in. A lot
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of that was, you know, grant money.
I'm asking this board. Now, I've gone
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through it. There's a couple of
$15,000 contingencies in there and a
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couple of accounts.
I think we need to move positions,
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whether it's change your job duty,
change the position.
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You know, where maybe somebody in DPW
goes out. And again, this comes back
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full circle to where I'm going with the
with the stuff that we're doing with not
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being
not being productive. Okay? When you're
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not getting productivity
out of your areas like and I'm going to
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just use Art as an example because in
DPW,
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you know how many guys it takes to plow
plow the streets,
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to snow blow. You know how long it
should take.
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Been doing it long enough. They they
know, but I mean, it's it's it's done.
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There has to be a handbook
to say this is what the job is. This is
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what the clerk treasurer does. This is
what the guy who runs the sewer plant
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does. This is what he does. He's
scheduled this many hours. He's a
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salaried person.
Well, how many hours is that? In my
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past, in my background, in the
restaurant business, a manager worked 55
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hours. A GM worked whatever it took.
It all fell on your feet. You wanted to
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make bonus, to make sure you were
running tight numbers. Okay?
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We went the other way.
We We cut hours.
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Now that You can't cut them out of DPW.
You have to have it. It's public safety.
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You can't cut the firehouse.
I'm asking you to look. I know where I
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looked.
I know where I would move stuff.
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But you might have to change jobs.
You might have to move. You might have
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to say goodbye to some people and say,
"Listen, it's not going to be 32 hours.
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We're not going to be open 4 days a
week.
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We're going to do five
and one Saturday a month.
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And you're going to get 8 hours of I
mean, that's literally
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what? 60 hours?
I mean, 72 I I don't know how many. It's
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not a lot of hours of overtime.
We You guys are in place to
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get the best for the community.
I don't think
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that we are being
spending our money in the right places.
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I'm asking you all to look at this.
I I'm a businessman.
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I've gone through it.
I You don't keep You don't keep your
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plant open
when your company tells you you got to
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go down to 40 guys. You don't keep it at
62. You go down to 40.
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Because if you don't, your company's
going to go out of business, and you're
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no longer going to have a job, and
nobody else is going to have a job.
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Well,
right now we're
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you know, I have discussed to you and
said, "Listen, the The only place you
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can actually pull money out of a
department
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is you have to
talk to the town and become a district
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firehouse.
Then your contribution, which 350,
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400,000, whatever you're going to say,
you can use that money.
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The biggest problem in this community
right now
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is code enforcement. Is our buildings.
We haven't been on the news for for, you
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know, great things.
We had a 3-year-old die
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who got eaten by bugs.
And her blood I mean, that was on Then
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you had another and then we condemn.
Why do we have to wait that long to
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condemn?
I mean,
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I'm
I'm in the real estate business.
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Want to make money? Go ahead. Put it on.
Albany does it. Everybody does it. You
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got to inspect your house once a year.
You can't just do it to landlords.
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There's a lot of single family homes
that are rented out here.
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Saratoga does it. You can't just rent
your house out at the track anymore.
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You've got to have exit signs. You've
got to have a whole plan.
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And Saratoga Springs gets 150 bucks.
I'm My point of view is we need to spend
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more money on code enforcement and
building inspector. And we need to get
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documentation
so that every time there's a call, a
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police call,
we know that it went to
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1 Pine Street. Well, at the end of the
month we had 30 calls.
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Again, there's a nuisance ordinance. All
All I'm saying is
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start looking at moving
something cuz you can't just keep
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raising taxes.
You can't I mean, that's I mean, this is
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where it starts.
If you want to fix things,
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fix the buildings.
Hold people accountable so that when the
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next assessment comes through or when
the house gets bought
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and goes on the market and gets sold for
280,000 and now that that new property
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owner is paying taxes on that and not on
the 120
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that it was actually being assessed at
because it was boarded up for 3 years.
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That's I'm just asking you to put your
your business hat on.
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» John, okay, we
we get the point and appreciate it.
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» I told you I've been holding it in.
>> No, that's okay. We let you run.
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» And I thank and I thank you, Terry, for
letting me talk.
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» Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you all.
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» You're good.
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Anybody else in the public have anything
to say?
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» Jason Petrovic, 33 Bonnie Street. I just
had a question for Carla. Um with regard
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to the um
>> You need to address the board, Jason.
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» Oh, I need to address the board. Okay.
Um
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the um
moratorium being submitted to the the
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planning board. Was Is there a time
frame for a response from them or is is
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it open-ended?
>> Actually, can I address that, Mayor?
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» Will you address that, Carla?
>> Yeah, because actually I needed to bring
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that up. Um I
Your code is one of the
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very few I've seen that doesn't require
you to go to the village planning board.
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I was working under the assumption and
this is on me that it did because every
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other village I know does.
Looking at this now, it doesn't. So, you
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can actually rescind your prior Like
what's it up? You can rescind your
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resolution. You can You can still keep
them and have them look at it and give
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you comment, but you're not required to.
Your law doesn't require you to.
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» Okay.
>> So, it's up to you. I I just Again, and
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that's on me and I I own that, but I
went under the quick assumption that
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that's how it works. So, your code
doesn't require that and under the state
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law you're not required to unless your
local law tells you to.
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» Okay.
>> So,
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it's up to you what you want to do. If
you don't want the planning board to
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look at it, then you would just tell me
to send it to county planning right now.
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» Send it to county planning.
>> So, you don't want the village planning
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board to look at it. So, you would want
to rescind that resolution.
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» Okay.
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Hold on. Thank you, Jason.
That's a good answer.
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It's going to be quick, by the way.
>> So, you don't have to do anything.
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» Okay.
All those in favor of sending that
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motion?
>> Actually, sorry. We need a second. We
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have to first and then we can
>> All those in favor of sending that
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motion?
>> Yes.
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» I.
>> Opposed?
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Okay. Thank you.
Okay.
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» So then you then need to make a motion
to send it to the county.
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» I'll make the motion.
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All those in favor?
>> I.
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» Opposed?
Okay. Thank you.
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» That might be something you want to
think about if you amend your zoning
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code that you should send it to your
village planning board.
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» We still can, though, right?
>> You can, but I'm saying when you amend
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your zoning code,
>> Right.
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» I would recommend putting that in there.
Cuz they're the ones that are going to
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have to deal with.
>> Right.
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» Thank you very
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» Okay. Anybody else in the public got any
questions?
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Comments? Okay.
We're going to go to uh
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more comments. We'll start out with Mr.
Mike.
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» John,
do you remember
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» Mhm.
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» Mhm.
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» Mhm.
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» Mhm.
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» Mhm.