Record of the Proceedings - Tuesday Session

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[0:04] CALL TO ORDER:
[0:12] *8:30 a.m.  Pledge of Allegiance
[0:54] *8:30 a.m. - 10:00 a.m. Public Works – Michael See, Director:
[7:17] Presentation from the Guemes Island Ferry Replacement Project Technical Advisory Group on the Guemes Island Ferry Replacement Project
[1:09:39] *11:00 a.m. - 11:30 a.m. Public Works – Michael See, Director:
[1:10:39] Public Hearing: To Consider Testimony Regarding the Sale of County Surplus Property Consisting of Vehicles and Equipment that are Valued at More than $2,500
[1:17:21] *11:30 a.m. - 11:45 a.m. Board of County Commissioners:
[1:17:34] Public Comment Period
[2:09:05] Miscellaneous (announcements, letters, etc.)
[2:16:12] *1:00 p.m. - 2:00 p.m. 2026 Skagit County Fair Kick Off
[3:12:48] ADJOURNMENT:

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[0:11] Good morning. I call this
[0:12] session's scheduled County
[0:12] commissions to
[0:13] order JULY 7th
[0:13] ,
[0:14] 2026, a little
[0:14] after 8:30 in
[0:15] the morning, please join me in
[0:16] the Sutar flag
[0:19] . I
[0:19] pledge
[0:21] allegiance to the
[0:21] flag of the
[0:21] United
[0:22] States
[0:23] of America and to
[0:24] the republic
[0:25] for which
[0:25] it
[0:26] stands, one
[0:26] nation
[0:27] under GOD
[0:28] ,
[0:28] indivisible with liberty
[0:29] and
[0:30] justice
[0:34] . We expect Commissioner
[0:35] Burns in a few minutes
[0:36] , so we
[0:37] will get started. We
[0:37] are
[0:38] here
[0:39] with the
[0:41] um Public
[0:41] Works
[0:43] and
[0:43] the what do you
[0:43] call this
[0:45] , the
[0:45] tag
[0:47] , the
[0:47] Quimus
[0:48] Island
[0:48] Ferry
[0:49] Replacement
[0:49] Project
[0:50] Technical
[0:51] Advisory Group
[0:53] . Um
[0:54] go ahead
[0:56] .
[0:56] Good morning
[0:57] , commissioners
[0:57] Is
[0:57] it on
[0:59] ? Yeah. Oh, ok
[1:01] Sorry
[1:01] .
[1:02] Marie Lambert, Assistant
[1:03] Public
[1:04] Works director. We're here
[1:04] today for
[1:05] a
[1:06] presentation from
[1:07] Sandy McKeon
[1:08] , the chair of the
[1:09] Temporary Technical
[1:10] Advisory
[1:10] Group
[1:11] , formed
[1:11] last fall
[1:12] to
[1:12] evaluate
[1:13] the
[1:13] gleamous
[1:14] ferry
[1:15] replacement options
[1:16] . The 9
[1:16] members
[1:17] 9
[1:17] member
[1:19] group
[1:19] meant
[1:19] monthly from
[1:20] NOVEMBER
[1:21] 2025
[1:21] through
[1:22] JUNE
[1:22] 2026
[1:23] . Captain
[1:24] Rachel Rowe
[1:24] , myself
[1:26] ,
[1:27] facilitator Hilary
[1:27] Wilkin
[1:28] Wilkinson and her
[1:28] assistant
[1:29] Claire
[1:29] Morder
[1:30] also
[1:30] attended
[1:31] .
[1:31] The
[1:31] tag
[1:32] was tasked
[1:33] with
[1:34] providing recommendations for
[1:35] replacing
[1:35] the
[1:36] current Guimus
[1:36] Island
[1:36] ferry
[1:37] , a written report
[1:37] will be
[1:38] submitted to the
[1:38] board
[1:39] by the
[1:39] end
[1:40] of
[1:40] AUGUST. I
[1:41] will
[1:41] turn
[1:41] this over
[1:42] to Rachel
[1:42] Rowe
[1:43] for
[1:43] a
[1:44] brief description
[1:44] of
[1:44] the
[1:45] history of
[1:45] the
[1:46] ferry
[1:46] replacement project
[1:47] . Good
[1:47] morning
[1:48] , commissioners, and
[1:49] good morning
[1:49] teg
[1:50] members
[1:50] . Um
[1:51] ,
[1:51] you're gonna hear from
[1:52] Sandy
[1:53] McKeon, the chair of
[1:53] the tag
[1:54] ,
[1:55] uh, but before that, I just
[1:56] wanted to give
[1:57] a
[1:57] brief project
[1:58] update
[1:59] . Um, kind of
[2:00] talk about
[2:00] how we
[2:01] got here
[2:02] . The discussion
[2:02] of
[2:04] replacing Skagit County's
[2:05] ferry really began back
[2:06] in 2013
[2:07] We hired
[2:07] Elliott
[2:07] a
[2:08] Design Group
[2:09] to
[2:09] do
[2:09] uh a
[2:11] replacement study.
[2:11] They
[2:12] determined that out of
[2:12] 3
[2:12] options
[2:15] , uh immediate tenure
[2:16] and
[2:16] 20-year
[2:17] intervals
[2:18] for
[2:18] replacement
[2:19] that
[2:19] an
[2:20] immediate
[2:20] replacement
[2:21] was
[2:21] preferred. Uh
[2:22] ,
[2:22] it
[2:22] was
[2:23] the
[2:23] most
[2:24] economically
[2:25] viable choice for the county at
[2:26] the time
[2:27] . It
[2:27] wasn't
[2:28] until
[2:28] 2017
[2:28] that
[2:29] we hired Gloucton
[2:30] and
[2:30] previous to that, we had heard
[2:30] a
[2:31] lot
[2:31] of
[2:32] ideas about all
[2:33] electric
[2:34] tech technology uh
[2:34] brought to us
[2:35] as an option for
[2:36] our
[2:36] replacement ferry
[2:37] . Glasson
[2:38] was hired with
[2:38] the intent
[2:39] of
[2:40] designing an
[2:41] all-electric
[2:41] vessel to
[2:41] replace the
[2:42] current
[2:43] diesel power ferry
[2:43] that we have
[2:45] They
[2:45] worked on that design for
[2:46] quite a
[2:46] while
[2:47] and
[2:47] finally
[2:47] in
[2:49] 2023, we went out for a
[2:50] bid at
[2:50] the end of the
[2:51] year for the
[2:52] new
[2:52] vessel
[2:53] . In JANUARY
[2:54] of 2024
[2:56] , the
[2:56] commissioners rejected those
[2:57] bids. They did come in higher
[2:58] than
[2:59] the engineer's estimate.
[2:59] Uh
[3:00] , the vessel
[3:02] , uh,
[3:03] construction bids came in at 23
[3:05] to
[3:05] $24 million
[3:07] . At the
[3:08] same
[3:09] time, uh, some of our
[3:10] funding
[3:10] ,
[3:10] which
[3:11] totaled
[3:12] about
[3:12] 35
[3:12] million
[3:12] potentially
[3:13] at
[3:14] that point
[3:14] was
[3:15] in jeopardy, with
[3:16] 24
[3:17] million
[3:17] being from
[3:18] the
[3:18] cca and
[3:19] the cca
[3:19] going for
[3:21] a
[3:21] vote
[3:22] in NOVEMBER
[3:23] of
[3:24] 2024
[3:25] to possibly
[3:26] uh be repealed
[3:26] meaning
[3:27] we
[3:27] would
[3:28] potentially
[3:28] lose $24
[3:29] million in
[3:29] funding and
[3:30] the
[3:31] cca is
[3:31] the Washington
[3:32] State
[3:33] Climate Commitment Act
[3:33] funding.
[3:33] Yeah
[3:34] , we
[3:35] , we received that
[3:35] through the Move
[3:36] Ahead
[3:37] Washington Act
[3:37] and two
[3:37] separate
[3:38] installments
[3:39] . Of
[3:39] 14
[3:39] and then
[3:41] 10
[3:41] million
[3:42] , uh, which the 10
[3:43] million was
[3:44] subject to that
[3:44] vote in NOVEMBER
[3:46] of 2024
[3:48] . The
[3:49] um, the voters voted in
[3:50] NOVEMBER
[3:50] of 24. It
[3:50] did not
[3:51] get
[3:51] repealed
[3:52] . But we
[3:53] did not go
[3:53] back
[3:54] out for
[3:54] bid
[3:55] , rather
[3:55] , the
[3:57] board decided that they
[3:59] wanted
[3:59] to
[4:00] give
[4:01] um the citizens of
[4:02] voice in
[4:03] the project at the
[4:03] time
[4:04] , there
[4:04] were concerns about
[4:06] the
[4:07] all-electric replacement
[4:08] ,
[4:09] uh, technology specific to
[4:10] the
[4:10] charging arm
[4:11] , its size
[4:11] , its
[4:11] cost
[4:13] , it's complexity
[4:14] . And so
[4:15] ,
[4:15] uh, the board
[4:16] elected
[4:17] to form
[4:17] the
[4:18] temporary advisory
[4:19] group to
[4:19] give you
[4:20] a recommendation
[4:21] . Uh
[4:21] ,
[4:22] they were
[4:23] informed
[4:23] of
[4:24] uh
[4:24] project
[4:26] history
[4:26] timeline. We
[4:26] went over
[4:27] the initial design
[4:28] .
[4:29] We went over all of the
[4:29] different
[4:30] propulsion options.
[4:31] They
[4:31] really spent a lot of
[4:33] time
[4:33] volunteering their time on this
[4:34] group
[4:36] , digging into the work
[4:36] that's already
[4:37] been done
[4:38] and
[4:39] thoughtfully creating
[4:39] a
[4:40] recommendation that you're
[4:40] getting
[4:41] here today
[4:42] . Again
[4:42] ,
[4:43] they're going to produce
[4:43] our
[4:44] final
[4:45] advisory report at
[4:45] the
[4:45] end
[4:46] of AUGUST
[4:46] . You
[4:47] did receive
[4:47] today
[4:48] an
[4:48] executive summary
[4:49] , as
[4:49] well
[4:49] as
[4:51] um another document
[4:51] containing
[4:51] the
[4:52] propulsion
[4:52] options that
[4:53] they
[4:53] looked
[4:53] more
[4:55] thoroughly yet. And with
[4:56] that,
[4:56] unless you have
[4:57] any questions
[4:58] about
[4:58] the project itself, I'll
[4:59] turn
[4:59] it over
[5:00] to
[5:01] Sandy McKeon to
[5:02] give
[5:02] his presentation of the
[5:03] tag's
[5:04] recommendation.
[5:05] Commissioner Browning, do you
[5:05] any questions
[5:07] ? Not yet
[5:08] All
[5:09] right, Sandy, you're up
[5:09] . Rachel
[5:10] So
[5:11] , uh, there was
[5:11] a
[5:12] bioengineering on
[5:13] the
[5:13] Glasson
[5:13] thing, that
[5:14] report, when's it
[5:14] coming
[5:15] or
[5:16] what's the story on
[5:16] that one
[5:17] ? Yes
[5:18] , we
[5:18] , uh, did a
[5:19] value
[5:21] engineering workshop
[5:22] in
[5:23] APRIL
[5:23] , we
[5:24] are working
[5:24] with
[5:24] a
[5:25] consultant now
[5:26] to finalize
[5:27] the
[5:27] study
[5:28] . We're working
[5:28] on
[5:29] updating
[5:30] cost estimates
[5:30] , and
[5:31] we
[5:31] should
[5:31] have that
[5:32] report by the
[5:32] end of
[5:33] AUGUST as
[5:33] well. So
[5:34] at
[5:34] the same
[5:34] time you get
[5:35] the
[5:35] tag
[5:36] recommendation, you'll also
[5:36] see
[5:36] the
[5:37] value
[5:37] engineering
[5:38] recommendations
[5:38] . The
[5:38] value
[5:39] engineering is just on
[5:40] an
[5:40] all-electric
[5:40] type of
[5:42] ferry
[5:43] ,
[5:43] correct? The
[5:44] value engineering
[5:45] looked
[5:45] at
[5:46] the all-electric
[5:48] uh
[5:48] design
[5:49] as
[5:49] a base
[5:50] . Uh
[5:51] , several
[5:52] ideas and
[5:52] proposals
[5:52] were
[5:54] generated surrounding
[5:54] different
[5:55] alternatives
[5:56] and
[5:56] options
[5:57] for
[5:59] your consideration
[5:59] . Um
[6:00] so yes
[6:01] ,
[6:01] it focused on
[6:01] all electric
[6:02] as
[6:03] the base design
[6:05] . Thank
[6:06] you
[6:07] .
[6:08] Thank you very much for the
[6:08] committee being here
[6:09] . We
[6:10] really
[6:10] appreciate
[6:10] that and
[6:11] all your
[6:12] time and effort and
[6:12] the
[6:13] knowledge
[6:14] that this group
[6:14] brought together. It
[6:15] was
[6:15] really
[6:15] important
[6:16] to have was
[6:18] quite fun
[6:19] actually in a lot of ways
[6:19] , uh,
[6:19] we had
[6:20] a good
[6:21] group and
[6:21] with
[6:21] lots of
[6:22] different perspectives
[6:23] ,
[6:23] and I
[6:23] think we're
[6:24] pretty proud
[6:24] of what we came
[6:26] up with, and we
[6:26] hope
[6:27] it's useful to you
[6:28] . Um
[6:30] uh
[6:30] before we start
[6:32] , uh, uh, is
[6:32] there anybody on Zoom I'm
[6:33] just
[6:33] interested
[6:34] if
[6:34] other
[6:35] committee
[6:35] members
[6:37] . Uh-huh
[6:37] , I can't see it
[6:39] I think I
[6:40] see Becca
[6:40] Fong
[6:41] , I
[6:41] think
[6:42] . Ok. Good, good morning
[6:43] ,
[6:44] guys. I can join you for just a
[6:44] little bit. Andy
[6:45] , thanks for
[6:46] being there in person, and
[6:47] I
[6:48] can't see who else is in the
[6:49] room either
[6:49] . Alan
[6:50] and Ryan
[6:50] are
[6:51] here
[6:51] . Thanks
[6:51] , Ryan
[6:52] , and thanks,
[6:53] Ellen, for being there to
[6:53] represent
[6:55] . Ok
[6:55] . Just real quick,
[6:55] it
[6:56] looks
[6:57] like Jonah. Might
[6:57] be
[6:59] online because sometimes. Yeah,
[6:59] I expected Jonah
[7:00] . He's
[7:01] iPhone.
[7:01] Jonah, are you with us
[7:03] ? Oh
[7:03] , I
[7:04] see
[7:04] it right here
[7:06] . Jonah
[7:06] is
[7:08] a
[7:08] tugboat captain, and he spends
[7:09] a lot of time there
[7:10] , so he
[7:10] , he
[7:11] was in our meetings
[7:12] often
[7:12] by
[7:13] Zoom because he
[7:13] was
[7:16] anchored
[7:17] someplace, which was sort of
[7:17] appropriate for our
[7:18] group
[7:19] , uh,
[7:19] but anyway, good morning
[7:20] , uh
[7:21] . I
[7:22] think most people in this room
[7:23] know me because
[7:23] I've been
[7:24] involved with the
[7:24] ferry for a
[7:25] decade or
[7:26] so
[7:26] or
[7:27] more except
[7:28] Joe
[7:29] who's not
[7:30] here yet
[7:38] . Let's see,
[7:38] I just have
[7:39] to push these
[7:40] buttons, right
[7:42] ? Ok
[7:47] ok
[7:48] , well
[7:48] , we
[7:49] were created as a
[7:49] technical
[7:51] advisory group
[7:52] , uh, by
[7:53] resolution, which
[7:53] the numbers
[7:54] there
[7:56] . And asked to do
[7:56] these
[7:58] things
[7:58] , uh, that to
[8:02] in
[8:02] fact,
[8:03] let me just sort of
[8:04] say one
[8:05] thing. There's sort of a
[8:06] a
[8:07] feeling of some of the things
[8:07] that were said just this
[8:09] morning that we were looking at
[8:11] a
[8:11] complete
[8:11] set
[8:12] of
[8:12] options for
[8:13] a
[8:14] new
[8:15] ferry
[8:16] . Actually, what we
[8:16] focused on, because it
[8:17] makes
[8:18] sense when you work
[8:19] through
[8:19] it
[8:21] was what, looking at
[8:22] the
[8:23] alternative propulsion options.
[8:24] That's
[8:24] really
[8:25] what's
[8:25] key in
[8:26] terms
[8:27] of
[8:27] size
[8:28] or capacity
[8:29] ,
[8:29] things
[8:30] like that
[8:30] are
[8:31] well done
[8:31] and
[8:32] probably
[8:32] quite
[8:33] useful from
[8:33] the
[8:34] Gloucestton design
[8:34] from
[8:35] years ago
[8:35] , so
[8:35] the
[8:36] propulsion is
[8:36] really
[8:37] the key thing
[8:39] . And so
[8:39] we
[8:39] were to
[8:40] look
[8:40] at these
[8:41] things
[8:41] according to you
[8:42] guys in
[8:43] your
[8:43] resolution
[8:45] , uh, and
[8:45] so those
[8:46] are the
[8:47] , the options that we
[8:48] looked at
[8:52] . We
[8:52] were defined to
[8:53] be
[8:54] a nine-member group
[8:56] Good
[8:56] morning, Joe. My
[8:57] name is
[8:58] Sandy
[8:58] McKeon. Apologies for being
[8:59] late. No problem
[9:00] . Thank you
[9:01] . Um
[9:01] we
[9:03] just started
[9:03] . Um
[9:05] and
[9:06] 5 of
[9:07] the
[9:08] members were to be
[9:08] residents
[9:09] of
[9:10] Guaymas Island
[9:11] ,
[9:12] and
[9:12] 4
[9:12] representatives from
[9:14] Skagitt County
[9:16] , uh, not living
[9:17] on the island, although some of
[9:19] that's changed since
[9:19] since
[9:20] since, since the resolution
[9:21] was
[9:22] passed. Uh
[9:23] , but
[9:23] the four
[9:24] representatives are really
[9:24] to
[9:25] be
[9:26] focused
[9:26] on
[9:27] more expertise in
[9:27] the
[9:28] maritime industry
[9:30] . Such
[9:31] things as in fact we
[9:32] did cover
[9:33] these things um
[9:34] . Operating a
[9:35] vessel in these
[9:37] local
[9:37] waters
[9:38] .
[9:39] We
[9:39] have
[9:39] one
[9:40] member
[9:41] , Corey
[9:43] , who
[9:43] was the
[9:44] marine
[9:46] Delivery Service
[9:46] We know
[9:46] , we know
[9:47] him as
[9:47] what
[9:48] we'll get
[9:48] into that in a
[9:50] moment
[9:51] the
[9:52] things you can read there
[9:53] ,
[9:54] naval architecture, and
[9:54] then we
[9:55] had county membership
[9:55] . We've
[9:56] already said
[9:57] that here
[9:57] this
[9:57] morning, and we
[9:58] have
[9:58] some
[9:58] consultants
[10:01] . Uh
[10:02] and I
[10:03] just make
[10:04] it an aside, by the
[10:04] way
[10:04] , I
[10:05] thought
[10:06] the
[10:06] consultants did a
[10:06] terrific job. They
[10:08] work with us
[10:08] all the way through and
[10:09] really
[10:09] facilitated the
[10:10] whole
[10:11] thing. So
[10:11] it's really
[10:12] a compliment to
[10:13] you
[10:14] three because
[10:14] here at
[10:15] the time,
[10:15] I guess
[10:16] , but
[10:17] uh because you
[10:17] picked those
[10:18] consultants, I
[10:18] think you did
[10:19] an
[10:19] excellent job
[10:26] See
[10:28] My, my
[10:29] way of thinking
[10:30] these buttons work
[10:31] . Backwards,
[10:31] so I'll keep doing
[10:32] that
[10:33] , I'm
[10:33] sure
[10:33] . Um
[10:34] , so here
[10:35] are the
[10:35] members of
[10:35] the
[10:36] tag
[10:36] , uh, Paul
[10:37] Becker, who's a
[10:38] naval architect
[10:40] uh Allan
[10:41] Bush is here
[10:42] with us
[10:42] as one of the
[10:43] GAMus members
[10:44] Becca Fong
[10:45] , who
[10:45] you heard was
[10:46] on
[10:47] Zoom
[10:47] . Corey Jost
[10:47] , that was
[10:49] that's the
[10:51] uh San
[10:51] Juan
[10:51] Marine
[10:52] Freight
[10:53] . Whose
[10:55] runs
[10:56] barge on
[10:56] the on
[10:58] these waters
[10:58] . And
[10:58] he's
[10:59] sort of a
[11:00] , a savior to us
[11:00] on
[11:01] Glamis Island. You
[11:02] probably
[11:03] know that when the ferry
[11:03] has
[11:04] problems, he's
[11:05] the guy
[11:05] at
[11:06] midnight, it doesn't matter
[11:06] . He
[11:07] gets us
[11:07] off that
[11:08] island
[11:08] and
[11:08] back
[11:09] , so he's kind of a hero
[11:09] to
[11:10] us
[11:11] . Um
[11:12] myself
[11:13] , my
[11:14] background
[11:14] was, is
[11:16] , management
[11:16] consulting
[11:17] and
[11:18] project management
[11:18] which
[11:18] is
[11:19] kind
[11:20] of
[11:20] why I think I became
[11:21] the chair
[11:22] . I
[11:23] didn't have the
[11:23] expertise
[11:24] the
[11:24] rest
[11:25] did
[11:27] . Uh Ryan
[11:28] Monahan
[11:29] , who's here with us
[11:29] who works
[11:30] for PACar and
[11:31] has
[11:31] worked
[11:32] specifically
[11:33] on
[11:34] doing
[11:34] electrification of
[11:36] power
[11:36] trains
[11:36] on
[11:37] large vehicles, so
[11:38] great
[11:39] big truck and
[11:39] a ferry are
[11:40] not
[11:41] so different from each other
[11:41] Um
[11:45] Adam Paul, who
[11:45] is
[11:47] in this
[11:47] area and builds boats
[11:52] . Jonah
[11:52] Patrick
[11:53] , who's baby with us
[11:53] on
[11:54] Zoom, as I said before, he's
[11:57] tugboat captain, and Tom
[11:58] Fouts,
[11:59] who lives on the island
[11:59] , who
[11:59] has a lot
[12:01] of experience in
[12:01] the
[12:01] maritime
[12:02] and as
[12:04] aeronomical
[12:06] industries in
[12:07] terms
[12:08] of large
[12:08] machinery and engines and
[12:10] diesels and how all
[12:11] that works
[12:17] So this is a
[12:17] very busy
[12:18] slide
[12:19] I'm not
[12:20] , I'm not expecting
[12:21] you
[12:21] to read
[12:21] this particularly,
[12:22] although
[12:23] I highlighted some of
[12:23] the
[12:24] more
[12:25] important parts
[12:26] , um,
[12:26] these in the
[12:28] next
[12:29] slide
[12:30] represent
[12:30] the
[12:32] propulsion
[12:33] options that we looked
[12:33] at
[12:35] , ok
[12:36] And
[12:36] one of
[12:37] the first things
[12:37] that we
[12:37] uh
[12:39] um
[12:42] so to
[12:43] get this
[12:43] right here
[12:44] . One of the first
[12:46] things we had to deal
[12:47] with was
[12:48] the
[12:49] terminology. When
[12:50] you say
[12:51] diesel hybrid
[12:53] Ron
[12:53] , you might
[12:53] think of
[12:55] one thing, and
[12:55] I might
[12:55] think
[12:57] of another
[12:57] , and
[12:58] Alan here
[12:58] MAY
[12:59] think of another
[13:00] . It's, it
[13:00] gets
[13:01] confusing even to the
[13:02] industry. If you
[13:03] read
[13:04] articles
[13:04] or
[13:04] hear
[13:05] presentations
[13:07] , um, you
[13:08] you
[13:08] find out
[13:09] after 5
[13:09] minutes of
[13:09] discussion
[13:10] , you're talking
[13:11] apples
[13:11] and
[13:11] oranges
[13:12] . And we
[13:12] , we
[13:13] struggled with that for a
[13:13] couple
[13:15] of meetings
[13:16] , uh, and
[13:16] finally decides, you know
[13:17] , we
[13:17] really needed to
[13:18] find this
[13:18] clearly
[13:19] , and that's part of, I
[13:20] think
[13:20] , the value
[13:22] of
[13:22] these
[13:23] , uh,
[13:24] it's on two slides here
[13:24] , but
[13:25] you have it on one
[13:26] page
[13:26] in
[13:27] your
[13:27] packet, and the reason
[13:29] included that in
[13:29] your
[13:29] packet
[13:30] is
[13:31] not for
[13:31] this presentation so
[13:32] much, but as you
[13:33] think
[13:33] through
[13:34] this
[13:34] or read
[13:34] the report
[13:35] in
[13:36] AUGUST
[13:37] , um, you'll have
[13:37] this
[13:38] to
[13:38] refer to
[13:40] . It's I
[13:40] can't
[13:41] stress
[13:41] enough to keep
[13:42] it
[13:42] straight.
[13:43] What you mean
[13:43] by
[13:44] plug-in hybrid
[13:45] What
[13:45] you
[13:46] mean by
[13:47] diesel hybrid
[13:47] and
[13:48] the industry has some of
[13:48] the
[13:50] same problem in
[13:51] terms of
[13:51] keeping these
[13:52] terms straight
[13:53] Uh, we kind
[13:54] of settled on
[13:54] these
[13:54] a lot of it came out
[13:55] of
[13:56] Glaston's work. It's very
[13:56] similar to
[13:57] what
[13:58] Glaston did and
[13:59] also other
[14:00] industry sources
[14:01] . Uh
[14:07] Now there's
[14:09] cer
[14:09] certain things
[14:10] the
[14:11] sort of common
[14:13] to all
[14:14] of
[14:14] these
[14:16] and they're the kind of
[14:17] key characteristics of
[14:18] of
[14:18] them
[14:19] that that maybe you can't
[14:20] keep
[14:20] in top
[14:21] of
[14:21] mind
[14:21] . And one
[14:22] is
[14:23] it's really only
[14:23] two
[14:24] practical
[14:25] energy sources
[14:27] . So
[14:27] you know,
[14:28] the energy
[14:29] has to come from
[14:30] somewhere, right? It could be
[14:30] compressed natural
[14:31] gas. It
[14:32] could
[14:32] be
[14:32] diesel
[14:34] , but really the
[14:35] only practical ones that
[14:35] come
[14:36] down to in terms
[14:37] of here
[14:37] in
[14:39] Skagitt County would
[14:39] be diesel
[14:40] and electric
[14:41] . There's
[14:42] depressed
[14:43] natural gas
[14:43] . There's hydrogen
[14:44] there's things like that
[14:46] are
[14:46] being used
[14:47] , usually
[14:47] not
[14:48] very
[14:49] commonly used in
[14:49] the industry
[14:50] but
[14:50] we just one
[14:51] of the
[14:51] things
[14:51] that
[14:52] we
[14:52] can't
[14:53] concluded
[14:53] was
[14:54] those things are just
[14:54] not
[14:55] practical for
[14:56] the
[14:56] foreseeable
[14:57] future. They're
[14:57] just not
[14:58] available
[14:58] in this area
[15:00] . If
[15:00] you
[15:00] see the
[15:01] word
[15:01] diesel in any of
[15:03] these six
[15:04] propulsion options
[15:05] That
[15:05] means
[15:06] diesel
[15:06] is the source
[15:07] of
[15:08] the energy
[15:08] that
[15:09] is
[15:10] diesel
[15:10] is
[15:10] pre, not
[15:11] , not
[15:12] 100% usually
[15:12] but
[15:13] or often
[15:14] , but
[15:15] that's what's
[15:15] driving the boat. That's where
[15:16] the energy's
[15:17] coming from diesel
[15:18] If you see
[15:18] the
[15:19] word
[15:19] hybrid,
[15:20] that means there's a battery
[15:21] in
[15:21] there someplace
[15:23] So
[15:23] , uh
[15:24] , that
[15:26] helps to distinguish between
[15:26] these things
[15:28] . Most
[15:30] of
[15:30] the
[15:31] options, even
[15:32] if
[15:33] they're diesel
[15:35] often have generators
[15:35] on
[15:37] board
[15:38] and that's
[15:38] for
[15:39] backup
[15:39] reasons
[15:40] and
[15:40] but certainly uh
[15:41] one
[15:41] of
[15:42] the
[15:44] options that's
[15:45] um let's
[15:46] say,
[15:46] this is one of the
[15:48] slides
[15:48] that
[15:48] we had two
[15:49] different pieces,
[15:49] sets of
[15:51] software doing this and
[15:51] they, they
[15:51] didn't
[15:52] quite
[15:53] translate, so this
[15:53] slide went
[15:54] off the edge here
[15:55] , but
[15:56] , um, in
[15:56] the diesel
[15:57] hybrid
[15:57] , for instance
[15:58] um
[16:02] , the diesel
[16:02] is
[16:06] providing the
[16:06] energy
[16:08] through a
[16:09] generator and
[16:09] the
[16:11] electricity goes and drives
[16:11] the
[16:12] boat
[16:13] through an
[16:13] electric
[16:14] motor
[16:15] . So those
[16:15] are the things
[16:16] that
[16:16] are highlighted, for
[16:17] instance, a
[16:18] plug-in
[16:18] hybrid is
[16:20] the power
[16:22] is provided
[16:22] . Through
[16:22] an
[16:25] electric motor, and there's
[16:25] a lot of
[16:26] electricity
[16:26] being used
[16:27] and often is
[16:28] the primary energy
[16:29] source
[16:29] . Others here
[16:33] say
[16:40] diesel
[16:40] mechanical, which is
[16:41] the
[16:41] definition
[16:42] which is the way you
[16:43] would describe
[16:44] the
[16:44] current
[16:45] Weymouth ferry
[16:46] , the
[16:47] powers
[16:48] provided mechanically to
[16:48] the
[16:49] propeller
[16:50] . Solely by
[16:51] diesel
[16:52] engines, so
[16:52] there's no
[16:53] generator involved, although
[16:53] there might be one
[16:54] on board
[16:58] This is
[17:00] you know, too busy to
[17:01] see
[17:02] really here, but
[17:03] in
[17:03] the
[17:04] report when
[17:04] you get it at the
[17:05] end of
[17:05] AUGUST
[17:07] , we included, and
[17:08] most of this came from
[17:09] Boston,
[17:09] by the way, done
[17:10] years ago
[17:12] , uh,
[17:13] a schematic of
[17:13] each of
[17:14] these
[17:14] now
[17:16] . Just
[17:17] reading
[17:18] this
[17:18] , say
[17:19] it's kind of hard to keep in
[17:20] mind and it's easy to
[17:21] get
[17:21] confused
[17:22] , but it
[17:24] the
[17:25] graphic
[17:25] here really helps with that. So
[17:26] I encourage
[17:27] you when you look
[17:27] at
[17:28] the report to look
[17:29] at these
[17:30] uh, a lot of
[17:30] this makes sense
[17:32] when you look at the
[17:34] the
[17:35] schematic. You can
[17:36] see where
[17:37] the generators
[17:37] are
[17:37] , where they
[17:38] feed into
[17:39] In
[17:39] this case, it's a
[17:41] plug-in hybrid
[17:41] . There's
[17:41] electric motors
[17:48] . So
[17:49] in
[17:49] your
[17:50] resolution you asked us
[17:51] to look
[17:52] at
[17:52] these
[17:53] propulsion options
[17:55] Using these criteria
[17:57] . And we
[18:00] dropped a couple of them and
[18:00] you'll
[18:01] see why and we added
[18:02] couple
[18:03] , but
[18:03] there are
[18:03] in
[18:04] the
[18:05] end
[18:06] evaluation criteria
[18:10] . So
[18:10] if you're trying to decide, I
[18:11] mean
[18:12] , basically our
[18:13] task
[18:14] was
[18:14] of
[18:14] those
[18:17] propulsion options,
[18:17] which one will
[18:19] we recommend to
[18:19] you
[18:19] ? Or perhaps
[18:21] couple of
[18:22] them perhaps if that made sense
[18:26] which I think as we went
[18:26] along
[18:27] we decided
[18:28] that we really need
[18:29] to get
[18:30] to
[18:30] one
[18:31] because handing
[18:31] you two
[18:32] different options
[18:33] , just
[18:33] you know
[18:35] , passes the buck
[18:35] to
[18:36] you. So that's
[18:37] our job
[18:37] , so we
[18:37] really
[18:38] worked hard to
[18:38] get
[18:39] single option
[18:43] . These
[18:44] , the
[18:44] first
[18:44] thing we did
[18:46] when we got to
[18:46] this
[18:47] evaluation phase
[18:48] was to
[18:48] rank
[18:49] these 6
[18:51] . 9
[18:51] criteria
[18:53] . That
[18:55] we would use
[18:55] to evaluate the
[18:57] propulsion options
[18:58] . So these
[18:58] are
[18:59] in the
[19:00] order that we came
[19:00] to. We did a
[19:01] little
[19:02] exercise
[19:02] where
[19:02] we
[19:03] all, uh
[19:04] , through
[19:05] process
[19:07] prioritize these
[19:09] options
[19:09] , and this is the
[19:10] the
[19:11] the
[19:11] , the
[19:13] groups
[19:13] this
[19:13] decision
[19:14] of the importance of each one
[19:14] of those
[19:15] , so
[19:16] capital
[19:16] cost
[19:17] was
[19:18] number one
[19:20] . The
[19:20] maintenance
[19:21] cost
[19:22] , the liability, and I
[19:22] just
[19:23] point out one of these
[19:24] things
[19:25] there. In fact, this came from
[19:25] Ryan
[19:26] , I think
[19:27] , uh, really
[19:28] struck
[19:29] me
[19:29] is reliability
[19:30] . The
[19:30] ferry service
[19:31] is
[19:31] a lifeline
[19:32] not
[19:33] luxury
[19:33] , and that's the
[19:34] name of
[19:34] the game on
[19:35] Glamis
[19:36] Island. I'm sure you've heard
[19:36] that from
[19:38] many people
[19:38] from Guay
[19:38] misses
[19:38] . It's
[19:40] how we get to the
[19:41] doctor. It's how we see our
[19:42] family. It's
[19:43] it's
[19:43] , uh, it's,
[19:43] it's
[19:44] like a member of the
[19:45] family
[19:45] , that fairy
[19:46] hunt
[19:47] everybody who lives on the
[19:48] island
[19:48] , I
[19:49] think, um
[19:50] so
[19:50] you
[19:50] could
[19:51] read
[19:52] these
[19:52] complexity
[19:52] is
[19:52] something
[19:54] to
[19:54] consider
[19:54] Emissions
[19:55] is
[19:56] very
[19:58] important
[19:58] in
[19:59] a sort of an
[19:59] indirect way
[20:00] . We
[20:01] all would like to
[20:03] help
[20:03] with
[20:03] emissions in the
[20:04] world
[20:05] , but
[20:05] it
[20:06] turns out, as I think
[20:07] you well
[20:07] know
[20:08] , the
[20:08] funders really
[20:10] like
[20:10] an
[20:12] option that's cuts
[20:12] back
[20:14] emissions. I mean, just look
[20:14] what's happening with
[20:16] the
[20:16] Washington State
[20:17] ferry
[20:17] systems
[20:19] They're moving, trying
[20:20] to
[20:21] move
[20:21] quickly to
[20:21] electrify in
[20:23] order
[20:23] to reduce emissions
[20:25] . Uh
[20:25] , so
[20:25] that becomes a
[20:26] very important
[20:27] thing as much for
[20:28] the
[20:30] environment or as much for
[20:30] the
[20:31] funding of
[20:31] the
[20:32] project as it is
[20:33] for the environment
[20:34] . The other
[20:34] thing on
[20:35] emissions are
[20:36] the
[20:37] newer engine, anything to
[20:37] replace it
[20:38] . The
[20:38] standards are
[20:39] dramatically different than
[20:39] they were 40
[20:40] years
[20:41] ago
[20:41] . The
[20:42] engines today
[20:43] have much
[20:43] less
[20:44] emissions
[20:45] . But
[20:45] from the, I
[20:46] think the funding you've
[20:47] had
[20:48] already
[20:50] , uh, and I what I
[20:50] can
[20:50] tell it's going to be that
[20:51] way
[20:52] for
[20:52] at
[20:53] least several
[20:54] more
[20:54] years
[20:55] That's a, that's a hot
[20:56] button
[20:57] with the funders. They're still
[20:57] going to want to see that. I
[20:58] think one
[20:59] of their
[20:59] first
[20:59] questions
[21:00] would be, how do
[21:00] you
[21:01] help with admissions
[21:01] with this
[21:02] project
[21:11] ? So
[21:13] we have
[21:15] criteria
[21:15] to
[21:16] evaluate 6 options
[21:17] . So how
[21:17] do
[21:19] we go
[21:19] about doing that
[21:21] ? And
[21:21] the
[21:24] consultants really helped
[21:24] us here in
[21:26] many ways, but here
[21:26] in particular. We were
[21:28] kind
[21:28] of
[21:28] like, how do we put our
[21:29] minds
[21:31] around applying these
[21:31] criteria
[21:32] , these
[21:33] 6 options
[21:33] . So
[21:35] they came up with
[21:35] scheme.
[21:36] Again
[21:37] , don't even begin to try
[21:37] to read this
[21:38] , but
[21:39] the
[21:39] point is,
[21:40] we went through
[21:42] process
[21:42] where
[21:43] vertically
[21:44] there is
[21:44] the
[21:45] criteria
[21:46] , and we had
[21:46] a sheet
[21:47] like this for
[21:47] each one of
[21:48] the
[21:49] options
[21:49] , and each one
[21:49] of the
[21:50] tag members
[21:51] made
[21:51] an evaluation
[21:52] and
[21:52] put a
[21:53] number on each
[21:53] . For
[21:55] each of
[21:56] the criteria, something
[21:56] let's
[21:57] say
[21:58] maintenance costs or
[21:58] life cycle costs
[22:00] . How important
[22:01] they thought that was
[22:02] . And
[22:02] then
[22:03] we went through
[22:04] a process where
[22:04] we
[22:07] crunch
[22:07] these
[22:07] numbers
[22:08] together and
[22:09] came
[22:10] up
[22:10] with a
[22:11] and
[22:13] again, don't try to read this
[22:14] particularly, but the
[22:15] point
[22:15] is
[22:15] that
[22:16] the group at the bottom
[22:16] there
[22:18] where it
[22:18] says
[22:19] final total
[22:20] that's how at
[22:21] that we were kind
[22:22] of
[22:22] halfway through our
[22:24] our
[22:25] uh
[22:25] process when we
[22:26] got here.
[22:27] That's how
[22:27] we ranked
[22:29] the
[22:30] six
[22:30] options
[22:31] as
[22:32] a group
[22:33] and with
[22:34] everyone's input and
[22:35] it didn't
[22:36] stay this way, by
[22:36] the way
[22:38] , but
[22:39] they're not in order there, but
[22:39] if
[22:40] you look
[22:41] at the
[22:41] highest
[22:42] number
[22:42] is
[22:43] diesel hybrid
[22:45] . And
[22:45] interestingly, I just point
[22:46] this out
[22:46] , you'll
[22:47] see
[22:47] why
[22:47] the
[22:49] lowest number is
[22:50] plug-in hybrid
[22:50] at
[22:51] that stage
[22:51] . And
[22:52] I'll
[22:52] just
[22:52] jump ahead a
[22:53] little there, but
[22:54] the reason
[22:54] that
[22:56] happened
[22:56] is
[22:56] plug-in
[22:57] hybrid was
[22:58] very
[22:59] desirable
[22:59] , but Rachel
[23:00] already
[23:01] mentioned that
[23:02] charging arm
[23:02] was
[23:03] just
[23:04] a showstopper
[23:05] . It
[23:06] was
[23:06] expensive
[23:07] . It cost
[23:08] a lot of
[23:10] required a lot
[23:10] of change to the
[23:12] terminal area
[23:14] . Uh
[23:14] , it's
[23:14] only
[23:15] made
[23:16] , as I
[23:16] understand, still
[23:17] Rachel, in one
[23:18] country, Germany
[23:19] I believe, is that right
[23:21] ? And
[23:21] really there's
[23:23] no technical
[23:23] people here to
[23:23] service
[23:25] it
[23:25] . So
[23:28] all those things as we
[23:28] discussed these really
[23:29] brought
[23:30] the numbers
[23:30] down
[23:32] for plug-in
[23:32] hybrid
[23:34] . But the
[23:35] point
[23:36] is we
[23:36] went through
[23:38] rigorous
[23:39] objective process
[23:39] to
[23:40] try
[23:41] to
[23:41] evaluate the six
[23:42] options using
[23:43] the 9
[23:44] criteria that you laid
[23:44] out in
[23:45] your resolution
[23:48] . So
[23:50] here
[23:51] here, without
[23:52] trying to read
[23:53] all that
[23:53] . Here's
[23:54] the
[23:54] , the
[23:55] meaning of it. The
[23:56] top
[23:57] propulsions options, so we're
[23:58] trying
[23:59] to reduce the number of
[23:59] things we're
[24:00] looking at
[24:01] was
[24:02] mechanical diesel like we
[24:02] have
[24:03] now
[24:04] . Diesel hybrid
[24:06] and series
[24:06] which is a
[24:08] diesel
[24:08] is the
[24:09] , as
[24:09] said before
[24:10] , diesel means
[24:11] that's the
[24:11] energy source
[24:12] , but
[24:13] it
[24:13] goes
[24:14] through
[24:15] generators
[24:15] that
[24:16] charge batteries
[24:17] . The
[24:17] word
[24:17] hybrid means
[24:18] there's
[24:19] batteries
[24:20] involved, that drives
[24:21] electric
[24:22] motors, but the energy is still
[24:23] coming from diesel
[24:24] and then
[24:25] diesel electric
[24:26] , which is a
[24:26] little
[24:27] bit different
[24:28] . So
[24:29] we
[24:29] rejected
[24:31] of them, 3 of
[24:31] the of
[24:32] the 6 and
[24:33] and
[24:33] these
[24:35] the
[24:35] remaining
[24:35] three
[24:36] were our
[24:37] top
[24:38] options. Ones we
[24:39] rejected was
[24:40] plug-in hybrid for the reasons
[24:40] I just mentioned
[24:42] . Uh
[24:42] , the
[24:44] diesel hybrid
[24:44] parallel, that's
[24:45] where you
[24:46] have
[24:47] both diesel
[24:49] it,
[24:49] it
[24:50] has two
[24:51] drive shafts. It's
[24:51] it's used
[24:54] in maritime industry
[24:54] in certain
[24:54] particular
[24:55] applications
[24:55] , but especially
[24:56] the
[24:57] maritime
[24:57] people
[24:58] uh on the
[24:58] tag who
[24:59] who
[25:00] work in that
[25:00] industry for a
[25:02] living
[25:02] , thought
[25:02] that that would be just a
[25:03] ridiculous
[25:04] way to
[25:04] do it for a
[25:05] ferry like this, so that was an
[25:06] easy one
[25:07] . And
[25:07] the last
[25:08] one was
[25:09] the lummy
[25:09] Fay design
[25:09] , as you
[25:11] well know, Lummy
[25:11] is going
[25:12] forward with also doing a
[25:13] new
[25:13] ferry
[25:14] like this, and
[25:14] they're
[25:15] using a
[25:18] hybrid
[25:19] design and
[25:20] so
[25:21] the idea of
[25:22] including the
[25:22] you
[25:23] included it in
[25:24] the resolution
[25:25] of making it one of the options
[25:27] is maybe we
[25:27] could piggyback
[25:27] with them and save
[25:29] money and
[25:30] effort and a lot
[25:30] of things
[25:31] by
[25:31] somehow
[25:34] um having a joint thing
[25:34] or at least
[25:36] working together,
[25:36] but we, we
[25:38] talked about that
[25:38] quite a
[25:39] bit because the
[25:39] maritime
[25:40] people on
[25:40] the tag
[25:42] could see how
[25:43] much money could
[25:43] be
[25:45] saved by asking a boatyard
[25:45] to build two boats
[25:47] instead of
[25:47] one
[25:48] . And things like
[25:49] that, but
[25:50] we just felt that it was
[25:51] too
[25:52] complicated
[25:52] . Their timetables
[25:53] very different
[25:54] than yours. Uh
[25:54] and
[25:55] we thought
[25:56] the coordination
[25:57] between the two counties would
[25:58] be
[25:59] almost impossible. You've
[26:00] got your requirements
[26:01] . They've
[26:02] got theirs
[26:03] . They're
[26:03] fairy
[26:03] writers
[26:04] have
[26:04] certain
[26:05] priorities
[26:05] that
[26:06] they want
[26:06] . We have
[26:06] ones
[26:06] and
[26:07] trying to get
[26:07] that
[26:08] all
[26:09] coordinated would just
[26:09] be too
[26:10] complex, we thought
[26:17] . So
[26:21] cause
[26:22] I'm gonna head there a little
[26:22] bit
[26:25] . So
[26:26] we sat
[26:26] there with
[26:27] those
[26:28] and we
[26:29] started discussing
[26:29] pros
[26:30] and cons, which of the
[26:30] three would be our
[26:31] top
[26:32] recommendation
[26:33] . And
[26:34] at
[26:35] the end
[26:35] of our
[26:37] MARCH meeting
[26:39] just
[26:39] before we close
[26:41] for
[26:41] the day
[26:43] , um
[26:44] Brian sitting here
[26:45] App
[26:45] , who
[26:46] again works a pack car and
[26:46] works
[26:48] with electrification as
[26:49] large vehicles. Made
[26:50] comment
[26:50] saying, you
[26:51] know
[26:52] , smaller
[26:53] cheaper charging options
[26:54] exist
[26:54] today
[26:55] . And when he
[26:55] met by
[26:56] today
[26:57] was compared to
[26:57] 10
[26:58] years ago
[26:59] when
[26:59] Gloucton did
[27:00] its
[27:00] preliminary
[27:01] . Design
[27:03] In
[27:04] other
[27:04] words, and that
[27:05] , that we
[27:06] all
[27:06] walked out the door
[27:08] . And
[27:08] it
[27:08] wasn't like, hey, I'm going to
[27:09] announce this. It was
[27:10] just
[27:10] an
[27:11] offhand comment he made
[27:13] . But
[27:13] some of us
[27:14] started thinking
[27:15] about that in
[27:15] the
[27:16] intervening
[27:17] months before
[27:17] the
[27:19] APRIL
[27:19] meeting
[27:20] so
[27:20] much of
[27:22] , well
[27:22] , basically,
[27:23] all of
[27:24] the rejection
[27:24] of
[27:24] the
[27:26] tag
[27:26] of
[27:27] an all-electric
[27:29] . Ferry was
[27:30] because of that charging arm
[27:31] And
[27:34] we hadn't really thought, I
[27:34] guess
[27:35] , in
[27:35] several years
[27:36] . Is
[27:36] that
[27:37] technology still the
[27:38] latest thing out there
[27:40] ? Well
[27:41] so
[27:42] we asked, actually, I
[27:42] called
[27:43] Ryan up
[27:44] and asked him if he'd
[27:44] give us a
[27:45] quick presentation in
[27:46] the
[27:48] APRIL meeting of what
[27:48] these
[27:49] new options were
[27:51] . He came
[27:51] back
[27:51] with a
[27:52] terrific presentation
[27:53] and it was
[27:54] key moment
[27:56] . In
[27:57] the
[27:57] tags operation
[27:58] because because
[27:58] it gave us a
[27:59] whole
[28:00] another
[28:00] perspective
[28:05] . This is what
[28:09] today's
[28:09] charging options could
[28:10] look like
[28:12] . You don't see a big
[28:13] swinging arm
[28:15] . These
[28:15] are
[28:16] charging stations
[28:16] , not
[28:17] so
[28:18] undididididididididiet's say
[28:20] hybrid car
[28:20] . Uh
[28:20] , they're
[28:22] about
[28:22] the size of
[28:23] two refrigerators.
[28:23] Would that be
[28:24] about right
[28:25] ? Um
[28:34] the difference is
[28:36] uh, actually
[28:38] I mentioned this a little later
[28:39] but uh, ok, I'll say it
[28:40] oh I
[28:40] see, here we go
[28:47] . So
[28:49] , today's
[28:49] technology
[28:50] of smaller
[28:51] charging
[28:52] stations
[28:54] eliminate
[28:54] those
[28:55] negatives of
[28:56] the char, the
[28:58] , the
[29:01] all-electric option
[29:02] being
[29:02] too
[29:03] expensive
[29:03] the
[29:04] big
[29:05] infrastructure that's required,
[29:06] I think it was
[29:07] about
[29:07] $10
[29:07] million if I
[29:08] remember
[29:09] right
[29:09] , of
[29:10] the original thing was just
[29:11] for
[29:12] that
[29:13] portion. Uh
[29:14] I don't know
[29:15] if we ever
[29:16] solved that what do
[29:16] we do with
[29:18] handicapped parking
[29:19] because of the changes to
[29:20] the
[29:21] terminal area that would
[29:21] be
[29:22] required
[29:23] , things
[29:23] like that
[29:24] Uh
[29:30] So
[29:30] this kind of
[29:31] demonstrates
[29:32] how
[29:33] far technology
[29:34] because it
[29:34] is a
[29:35] fast moving
[29:37] area, which
[29:38] you
[29:39] probably realize this
[29:39] whole
[29:41] electrification is not just in
[29:42] ferry boats
[29:43] or
[29:43] cars or you know
[29:44] it's
[29:44] in so
[29:45] many
[29:45] things
[29:46] today
[29:47] battery technology
[29:48] is
[29:48] moving
[29:49] quickly
[29:50] , so it
[29:50] shows you kind
[29:50] of in
[29:51] 10 years
[29:52] , about
[29:52] 10
[29:53] years
[29:53] how quickly
[29:54] this can
[29:54] change
[29:55] from that big
[29:55] swinging arm to
[29:55] something
[29:57] like this
[29:57] . Uh
[29:59] and
[29:59] there's probably going to be,
[30:00] and that's a key thought
[30:02] that
[30:03] we in
[30:04] our conclusions
[30:06] is
[30:06] that
[30:06] that change
[30:08] to the
[30:09] technology
[30:09] isn't
[30:10] isn't isn't slowing down
[30:13] By some of the
[30:14] members who are
[30:15] working on
[30:15] these things
[30:17] , like
[30:18] Paul Becker, for instance, who
[30:19] works on trying
[30:19] to electrify
[30:20] boats here in
[30:21] this
[30:22] area that
[30:24] it's hard for them to
[30:25] even
[30:26] decide to do something right
[30:27] now because they know
[30:28] in a year
[30:29] or two it's going to change so
[30:29] much
[30:30] . Now you
[30:30] can
[30:31] futureproof
[30:31] that
[30:33] , but still
[30:35] , he brought
[30:35] that perspective to us
[30:37] . So at
[30:38] least
[30:39] talking
[30:40] about
[30:40] today's
[30:40] technology. What this
[30:41] , if this
[30:42] is what it looks like
[30:44] . It
[30:44] would
[30:45] only
[30:47] supply
[30:49] the
[30:49] the electricity
[30:51] that would be
[30:53] used on
[30:53] , let's
[30:54] say a month or a
[30:55] year's worth
[30:56] of operation
[30:57] would
[30:57] likely only
[30:58] be 50
[30:58] or 75% of
[31:00] the
[31:00] total
[31:01] energy budget
[31:02] . Uh
[31:02] , if you try
[31:03] to do what
[31:04] Glaston did, which
[31:05] works with a big swinging
[31:06] arm
[31:07] Glaston's criteria was
[31:09] like
[31:09] 95%
[31:09] of in
[31:11] order to
[31:11] reduce
[31:11] emissions
[31:12] as much
[31:12] as
[31:13] possible
[31:13] of the
[31:14] energy coming
[31:15] from electric
[31:16] . Uh
[31:16] so
[31:19] we
[31:20] can't quite replace that
[31:20] with these
[31:22] two
[31:22] refrigerators.
[31:22] Uh
[31:23] , but if we
[31:24] brought
[31:24] that
[31:25] criteria
[31:25] from
[31:25] 95%, so
[31:26] this
[31:27] isn't inconsistent with
[31:27] Glaston
[31:28] by the way
[31:29] . Glawson did the
[31:30] right thing
[31:31] at that time
[31:31] that
[31:32] was when
[31:32] the objective was
[31:33] to
[31:34] do 95%, but if
[31:34] you lower that
[31:36] objective
[31:36] a bit, and then the
[31:38] batteries get
[31:38] smaller and so on
[31:39] and so forth
[31:47] . This
[31:47] is what the
[31:48] crew would
[31:49] have
[31:49] to do in
[31:49] this
[31:50] smaller charging
[31:52] . Technology
[31:54] and being the
[31:56] commissioners,
[31:56] you probably focus on a word
[31:57] name cost
[31:58] a lot
[31:59] . You know, this
[31:59] costs
[32:00] like
[32:01] 10,000, not 10
[32:01] million
[32:03] . Uh
[32:05] so
[32:05] , and
[32:05] you imagine
[32:06] the boat
[32:07] coming into
[32:08] the
[32:09] dock
[32:09] after a
[32:10] run
[32:10] , is it
[32:12] after it's
[32:12] docked up, a
[32:14] crew member would
[32:14] just take this thing much like
[32:15] he would do with
[32:16] Prius and
[32:17] plug it into the ferry, that'd
[32:17] be it
[32:19] . Uh
[32:30] One thing
[32:32] that
[32:32] would
[32:32] just be a, a, oh by
[32:35] the way
[32:37] these charging
[32:37] stations would
[32:38] need to be, if
[32:38] you think about
[32:39] it
[32:41] located near the boat
[32:42] Because
[32:43] you've got a cord here
[32:44] that's got to be plugged in
[32:44] again like
[32:45] a Prius
[32:46] . So that
[32:46] means
[32:48] these charging stations
[32:48] would have to be mounted on the
[32:49] ramp or
[32:50] something like that
[32:50] So
[32:51] that's just
[32:52] technical design
[32:53] thing that would have to be
[32:53] worked out
[32:57] . This is
[32:59] weird
[33:00] looking slide graphs, but this
[33:00] is probably
[33:01] the most important
[33:02] slide of the whole presentation
[33:04] This is how it would work
[33:09] as
[33:11] you're probably well aware
[33:11] , the
[33:13] well, I'll just say
[33:15] it this way
[33:15] the energy required
[33:17] to propel
[33:17] that boat depends a lot on the
[33:18] sea state. So
[33:19] if
[33:20] it's calm, it
[33:20] has certain
[33:22] requirements. If
[33:22] it's
[33:23] bumpy
[33:24] and stormy and windy
[33:24] and
[33:26] so
[33:26] on
[33:26] . It it
[33:27] requires more
[33:27] energy
[33:28] , and
[33:28] that's why there
[33:29] are two graphs here. So
[33:30] just
[33:31] look at the top one there
[33:33] . The
[33:34] line that goes up is
[33:35] when the
[33:35] boat's at the dock being
[33:37] charged. That red
[33:38] line
[33:39] is the
[33:39] amount of
[33:40] kilowatt hours
[33:41] available in the
[33:42] battery. So if
[33:42] you look at
[33:42] the top
[33:45] , top
[33:45] of
[33:45] the
[33:46] of the of
[33:46] the
[33:46] graph that's a
[33:47] fully charged battery
[33:48] , ok? So
[33:49] as you run
[33:49] the boat
[33:51] the
[33:53] down
[33:53] lines are when the batteries
[33:54] are
[33:55] being
[33:55] discharged to run the
[33:56] boat across the channel
[33:58] . When
[33:58] it gets
[34:00] back to
[34:00] the Anacored
[34:00] stock, it
[34:02] gets plugged in and
[34:02] it goes
[34:02] back
[34:03] up
[34:04] . And of course
[34:04] at
[34:05] the noon break, if you look
[34:07] there 11:15, there's a
[34:07] big jump
[34:09] up because there's
[34:09] an hour
[34:09] and
[34:09] 15
[34:11] minutes there to
[34:11] charge,
[34:12] right
[34:13] ? So
[34:14] that's
[34:15] not so
[34:16] different from from all
[34:16] electric if you think about it
[34:18] Not really
[34:20] but
[34:20] in
[34:20] extreme
[34:21] conditions and
[34:22] other situations
[34:23] if you look toward the end of
[34:23] the day, the batteries
[34:24] just
[34:25] don't have enough. Right
[34:26] ? We go
[34:27] below 0 there
[34:40] . Well
[34:41] this
[34:43] which
[34:43] is
[34:44] called plug-in
[34:44] , we're
[34:45] calling it
[34:45] our
[34:45] definitions
[34:47] plug-in hybrid. There are
[34:48] generators on the boat
[34:51] So
[34:56] if
[34:57] you're in that bottom, if it's
[34:58] an
[34:59] extreme weather situation or
[34:59] some other situation
[35:00] that
[35:01] requires the
[35:01] boat
[35:01] to use
[35:03] more
[35:03] energy than typical
[35:05] . When
[35:05] you
[35:06] start getting to whatever
[35:07] you
[35:07] decide to be, that's getting
[35:08] too close now, which could
[35:09] be
[35:10] zero as you
[35:10] see the end of that
[35:12] bottom
[35:13] graph showing
[35:15] . You fire
[35:15] up
[35:16] the generators
[35:18] and most of
[35:19] the discussion in the
[35:19] tag from
[35:21] knowledgeable people
[35:22] of
[35:23] electrification in the marine
[35:24] industry
[35:26] . Recommend multiple
[35:26] generators
[35:27] . Small, each
[35:28] one
[35:28] being smaller
[35:30] um, up to 4
[35:30] even.
[35:31] I don't know
[35:32] if that makes
[35:33] sense on the boat our size
[35:35] , but
[35:35] certainly 2
[35:36] and there's a
[35:37] couple of reasons for that
[35:39] . One
[35:39] is
[35:39] generators
[35:41] , as
[35:41] most engines,
[35:42] run most efficiently
[35:43] at
[35:44] certain rpm in
[35:46] certain speed.
[35:46] So if you're trying to vary
[35:47] how
[35:48] much your
[35:48] output is depending
[35:49] by varying the
[35:50] speed
[35:50] , you're
[35:51] making that
[35:51] generator
[35:52] inefficient
[35:53] . If you have, let's
[35:53] say
[35:55] 3 generators
[35:55] , it's much
[35:56] better. You
[35:56] can run
[35:56] one
[35:57] generator
[35:57] at full speed. You
[35:58] need more power. Run
[35:58] the second
[35:59] one
[35:59] , maybe
[35:59] do that
[36:00] full
[36:00] speed.
[36:00] You see
[36:01] what I'm saying
[36:02] ? So you
[36:03] the generators
[36:04] , you
[36:04] vary
[36:05] the
[36:06] power
[36:06] produced
[36:07] by how
[36:07] many
[36:08] generators
[36:09] are running
[36:09] . Each
[36:10] generator gets to run
[36:11] near its
[36:13] most efficient speed
[36:15] . Also
[36:17] this
[36:18] provides a lot
[36:19] of
[36:19] redundancy,
[36:20] certainly compared to the boat
[36:20] we
[36:21] have now
[36:22] . If
[36:24] I mean
[36:24] , I don't
[36:25] I should know this living on
[36:26] the island for 15 years, but
[36:27] uh
[36:29] Rachel, if one of
[36:30] the
[36:30] engines
[36:31] go out
[36:31] . Is
[36:31] the boat
[36:33] out or can
[36:33] you run on one engine
[36:35] ? Can't
[36:35] run on one engine. No
[36:36] . No
[36:38] Physically you can, but Coast
[36:38] Guard says you can't
[36:39] . Isn't
[36:40] that what it is? Yeah, I mean,
[36:41] she
[36:42] can get
[36:42] back to shore
[36:44] , but
[36:44] right
[36:45] ? Yeah
[36:45] , if you
[36:45] lose one
[36:46] engine
[36:46] , you can
[36:47] no
[36:48] longer
[36:49] operate to
[36:50] carry
[36:50] passengers
[36:51] , um
[36:51] you
[36:52] can move
[36:52] the vessel if
[36:52] you
[36:53] needed to
[36:53] to a
[36:54] repair facility.
[36:54] On Coast
[36:55] Guard gives you
[36:55] that
[36:56] approval, but yeah
[36:56] , we're
[36:57] out
[36:57] of
[36:58] service
[36:58] . So
[36:59] we
[36:59] really we're
[37:00] not dead on
[37:00] the water is what
[37:01] I'm getting at
[37:01] . So it's
[37:02] not.
[37:02] Yeah, you
[37:03] could move
[37:03] it around
[37:04] Yeah. But really
[37:04] , the
[37:05] ferry
[37:05] service
[37:06] that you're providing
[37:07] for which we're very grateful
[37:07] on the island, by
[37:08] the
[37:08] way. Uh
[37:09] what would we do
[37:09] without
[37:09] it
[37:12] Has no redundancy in it
[37:12] , really
[37:12] Uh
[37:13] , you can't even lose one
[37:14] engine. We certainly don't have
[37:16] second boat. I mean, in this
[37:17] situation, there would be
[37:18] second boat either
[37:18] , but
[37:19] the
[37:19] point
[37:20] is if
[37:21] the
[37:22] , if you, if
[37:23] there's no electricity for
[37:23] some
[37:23] reason
[37:25] , the generators produce
[37:25] the electricity
[37:26] needed to run
[37:27] the boat
[37:27] . If
[37:28] you got, if
[37:30] generator goes down, you got
[37:30] another generator
[37:32] . So there's
[37:34] there's a lot
[37:34] of redundancy
[37:35] here
[37:36] that we don't have today,
[37:36] and that's another big
[37:37] advantage
[37:41] . Another thing
[37:41] is
[37:42] the
[37:43] industry is
[37:43] definitely going
[37:43] this direction
[37:45] Um
[37:46] There's
[37:47] periodical for the industry
[37:48] called Work Boat. I don't know
[37:48] if
[37:50] you're familiar with that
[37:52] but uh it
[37:52] , it
[37:53] kind of is trends
[37:54] in
[37:54] the
[37:55] industry. Here's just a
[37:55] couple of quotes
[37:56] again. This is
[37:57] in the report
[37:57] , so we
[37:57] don't need
[37:58] to
[37:58] read them
[37:59] , although
[37:59] I've
[38:00] underlined
[38:00] . Kind
[38:01] of
[38:01] the reasons
[38:01] you've got
[38:03] fuel efficiency
[38:04] minimize
[38:05] emissions
[38:06] , improved
[38:06] performance
[38:07] , um
[38:08] that's
[38:08] , that's
[38:10] a lot of the
[38:10] reasons
[38:10] why the
[38:11] industry
[38:12] is going
[38:12] in this
[38:12] direction
[38:13] . The second
[38:14] quote is
[38:14] kind of like
[38:15] , hey
[38:16] , everybody's
[38:16] doing
[38:17] this. The the
[38:19] the
[38:19] ferry
[38:19] fleets built in the
[38:21] 70s and
[38:21] the
[38:22] 80s are reaching the end
[38:23] of
[38:23] their service lives. That's
[38:24] exactly the situation we're in
[38:26] and people are
[38:27] looking
[38:28] at
[38:28] electrification
[38:28] and also
[38:29] the
[38:30] federal funds, as we
[38:30] mentioned
[38:32] before, often are looking for
[38:33] lower emissions
[38:34] . To
[38:35] be awarded.
[38:35] So
[38:37] uh
[38:39] if
[38:42] Scatter County goes
[38:42] this
[38:44] direction, you're right in
[38:44] keeping with where the
[38:46] industry
[38:46] is going
[38:47] With
[38:48] the proviso that
[38:48] it's
[38:49] changing quickly again
[38:50] It's
[38:52] and
[38:53] read
[38:53] several things
[38:53] around
[38:54] the
[38:55] industry as we're
[38:55] putting
[38:57] this
[38:57] together, where
[38:57] people
[38:58] are hesitant
[38:59] to
[38:59] move
[39:00] now
[39:00] because of the change that
[39:02] might occur in 3 years from now
[39:02] and yet they feel
[39:03] the need
[39:04] to
[39:04] do it now, especially if
[39:04] you've
[39:05] got end of service
[39:07] . Which is,
[39:07] you know
[39:08] , our
[39:08] fair
[39:08] is reaching
[39:09] that too
[39:13] . So
[39:15] here's
[39:15] the
[39:16] recommendation
[39:19] After
[39:20] we
[39:20] analyzed this idea
[39:22] that Ryan
[39:23] first mentioned of, hey
[39:24] they're smaller. You don't need
[39:25] to charge the arm
[39:26] . You
[39:27] can use
[39:27] smaller batteries
[39:29] . As long as
[39:29] you
[39:29] understand
[39:31] this zigzag
[39:31] thing
[39:31] Um
[39:33] and you
[39:33] have
[39:35] redundancy with
[39:36] generators. So
[39:40] after discussing that
[39:42] , the
[39:42] tag
[39:43] changed if you
[39:44] might remember,
[39:44] we, we had
[39:45] eliminated
[39:46] the
[39:46] options down
[39:47] to 3
[39:47] . Now
[39:48] it
[39:49] became
[39:50] very clear again
[39:51] interestingly
[39:51] , that
[39:52] plug-in
[39:52] hybrid on
[39:53] the
[39:54] initial analysis
[39:54] was
[39:54] last
[39:55] . Now it's
[39:56] the first
[39:56] It's all
[39:57] about
[39:58] that charging
[39:58] her
[39:59] . And cost
[40:00] and
[40:01] the
[40:03] mechanical diesel is
[40:04] the #2
[40:05] option. So that's kind of where
[40:05] we stood for
[40:07] a while
[40:07] . We had
[40:07] quite a bit
[40:09] of
[40:09] debate
[40:09] about
[40:10] this
[40:11] . And that's where we
[40:12] thought, well, we, we
[40:13] could
[40:14] recommend to to
[40:16] the
[40:16] commissioners
[40:16] . Here are
[40:18] two
[40:18] options
[40:18] .. Between the two, but
[40:19] that seemed like we
[40:20] were
[40:21] copping out to do that. So we
[40:21] had a lot
[40:23] of debate about
[40:23] it
[40:25] And then another
[40:25] thought came
[40:25] in
[40:27] . Which is, if you think
[40:28] about it, both
[40:29] of these options
[40:30] have a flaw
[40:32] . The
[40:32] plug-in hybrid
[40:34] its flaw
[40:36] is the
[40:36] technology is
[40:37] not really mature yet
[40:38] It's
[40:38] come
[40:39] a long ways. You could
[40:40] do
[40:41] it
[40:41] today, but according
[40:43] to the
[40:43] people like Paul
[40:44] who work with
[40:45] this all the
[40:46] time
[40:46] , and
[40:46] Ryan
[40:48] , uh
[40:48] the next 5 years are
[40:49] going
[40:49] to
[40:50] be
[40:51] that's kind of gonna be
[40:51] the
[40:52] sweet spot
[40:52] . We find
[40:53] it'll
[40:54] keep
[40:54] improving, but we're past the
[40:55] knee of the curve
[40:56] then
[40:57] something like 5 years from now
[40:59] So the
[41:01] technology just is
[41:01] not
[41:02] mature enough yet
[41:03] . You could
[41:03] do
[41:03] it
[41:04] but
[41:04] you'd be better
[41:05] off
[41:05] waiting a while
[41:08] . The
[41:08] mechanical
[41:09] diesel has
[41:10] a problem
[41:11] and that
[41:11] is
[41:12] once the existing
[41:13] ferry
[41:13] reaches its
[41:14] end of life service
[41:17] service life, what do you do
[41:17] then
[41:17] ? If
[41:19] you imagine the end of
[41:19] service
[41:21] our
[41:21] ferry
[41:21] is projected.
[41:22] I mean
[41:23] , there's no science to
[41:23] this
[41:24] , but to
[41:26] be at the end of
[41:26] its useful
[41:28] service
[41:28] in 2039
[41:29] That's a
[41:30] 60-year life
[41:30] . Most
[41:31] boats we went
[41:32] through this for
[41:33] a while
[41:33] , most boats in the
[41:34] , in
[41:35] the, in
[41:35] the Puget Sound, which
[41:35] is
[41:37] a rough place to run a
[41:39] boat.
[41:40] Have a service life of about
[41:40] years, but
[41:41] it turns
[41:42] out I
[41:42] certainly didn't know this
[41:44] , but
[41:45] Rachel kind of gave us a
[41:46] great
[41:46] description of the history
[41:47] of
[41:47] this
[41:48] , when the
[41:48] boat was built
[41:49] it
[41:49] was built really
[41:50] , really
[41:51] well
[41:51] . It's thicker
[41:52] steel than
[41:53] they'd
[41:53] use today
[41:53] , and
[41:54] this
[41:54] boat
[41:54] we
[41:55] all
[41:55] felt comfortable
[41:56] including
[41:56] the
[41:57] maritime people
[41:57] on
[41:58] the
[41:58] tag that
[41:59] this boat
[42:00] really has
[42:01] a 60-year service
[42:01] life
[42:01] . Better than most because
[42:02] it was so well built to start
[42:03] with
[42:04] . But then you're going to
[42:05] have to do something
[42:07] , so in you
[42:09] can't start the day of
[42:10] the last
[42:11] day of the
[42:11] service life of the
[42:12] boat
[42:13] . So
[42:13] let's
[42:13] say in
[42:15] 2035
[42:16] which
[42:17] is
[42:17] only what
[42:18] 7 or
[42:18] 8 years
[42:18] from now
[42:20] you're gonna have to
[42:20] do something, you're
[42:21] gonna
[42:22] build another
[42:22] uh
[42:25] diesel-only
[42:25] boat when
[42:29] when the industry
[42:30] says this
[42:33] uh, 7 years from
[42:33] now,
[42:34] a lot
[42:34] of these uh
[42:36] maybe ifs
[42:37] in
[42:38] this quotes are going to be
[42:39] gone. I think it's going to be
[42:40] this is
[42:40] the
[42:40] way
[42:42] . So
[42:42] that's a
[42:43] problem. Uh
[42:45] , so either both
[42:45] of
[42:45] those options have
[42:46] a flaw
[42:47] . And
[42:47] what
[42:49] the
[42:49] aha moment for us on
[42:51] the
[42:52] tag was what we ended up
[42:52] calling
[42:53] the
[42:53] blended option
[42:54] which is
[42:55] if
[42:56] you think about it
[42:58] each of
[42:58] those two options
[42:59] solves the other's problem
[43:02] So
[43:02] if
[43:03] the technology is not quite
[43:05] mature enough now, you've got
[43:05] to wait 5 years
[43:06] . The
[43:07] existing
[43:07] boat gets you there
[43:09] . If
[43:09] we were
[43:10] end of service right
[43:11] now, what
[43:11] would you do
[43:13] ? 7 or 8 years from
[43:14] now when you're when you're
[43:14] doing the
[43:16] final pen, you know,
[43:17] pen to
[43:18] paper on this is what
[43:18] we're going
[43:19] to do
[43:25] . I lost my
[43:26] thought there for a second, but
[43:26] the, the, the
[43:27] point
[43:28] is that
[43:29] what
[43:29] then
[43:30] becomes where the
[43:30] industry
[43:32] is going
[43:32] with a
[43:34] plug-in hybrid
[43:35] . So our
[43:36] final
[43:36] conclusion is
[43:39] maintain the
[43:41] existing ferry. It's in good
[43:41] shape
[43:42] All
[43:43] the
[43:43] surveys say that
[43:45] it costs some money. You've
[43:46] always taken some big steps
[43:47] in
[43:48] that direction with the
[43:48] new
[43:50] engines. Uh, I
[43:50] guess
[43:50] the
[43:51] outdrives
[43:52] are on
[43:52] the docket,
[43:53] right? Rachel
[43:54] , that's
[43:54] it's
[43:54] not
[43:55] approved, but it's
[43:56] talked about
[43:57] certainly, right
[44:01] ? I
[44:01] should ask
[44:02] you. I don't have an answer for
[44:03] you on that
[44:04] . Yeah. But that
[44:04] would be a
[44:05] major thing, but not
[44:06] as big as the engines, right,
[44:06] in terms of cost
[44:10] . Up there
[44:12] Yeah
[44:13] you're
[44:14] asking some pretty big
[44:15] questions. Although, yeah, I, I
[44:17] guess I kind of
[44:17] , uh, I
[44:17] remember
[44:18] this discussion that
[44:19] we
[44:19] had
[44:20] that it's not clear the out
[44:20] drives
[44:21] need replacement, right
[44:22] It
[44:23] , the
[44:24] answer is, I think
[44:24] it
[44:24] depends on
[44:26] when the end of the
[44:27] service life of the ferry
[44:27] is
[44:28] going to be
[44:28] . Ok
[44:29] , so the
[44:30] point
[44:31] is
[44:31] , certainly you're not out in
[44:32] the woods
[44:32] . You've
[44:33] got decisions
[44:33] to make, but
[44:34] the
[44:35] point is
[44:35] to
[44:36] maintain
[44:36] that ferry
[44:38] to properly
[44:40] till it's
[44:40] end
[44:42] of service, which
[44:42] is 60 years
[44:44] . And
[44:44] by
[44:44] that time
[44:46] the technology not
[44:48] being mature
[44:49] enough yet, the
[44:49] problem will
[44:50] go
[44:51] away. So
[44:53] uh we're
[44:55] saying
[44:55] maintain the
[44:56] existing boat for
[44:56] the next
[44:57] few years
[44:58] . Properly
[44:59] and
[45:00] then start the design
[45:01] of a
[45:02] new plug-in hybrid the way we
[45:03] described it
[45:04] with
[45:04] smaller
[45:05] charging stations and so on
[45:09] Something like 5 years
[45:09] , maybe 6
[45:09] years from now
[45:11] , something like
[45:11] that, get that
[45:11] process going
[45:13] We figured it's probably, and I
[45:14] think in
[45:15] your experience, you
[45:16] know, from when you say, hey
[45:18] let's start thinking about it,
[45:18] let's start doing something
[45:19] about this
[45:20] . It's probably 5
[45:20] years before
[45:21] the boat's on
[45:22] the
[45:22] water
[45:27] . There
[45:27] are
[45:27] some other
[45:28] considerations
[45:29] and these are
[45:30] things that
[45:31] we thought weren't
[45:33] um
[45:36] directly
[45:37] . In
[45:38] the path of
[45:38] coming up
[45:40] with a
[45:40] single
[45:41] recommendation for you all. Oh,
[45:41] by the way
[45:42] , I should have
[45:43] mentioned this for sure
[45:44] . This
[45:45] I underline that
[45:47] word unanimous
[45:47] The
[45:49] tag unanimously supported
[45:50] the splendid option
[45:51] . Before
[45:52] that, when we had
[45:52] the two
[45:54] which solve each
[45:54] other's
[45:54] problem
[45:55] . We
[45:56] had some
[45:56] debate
[45:56] about that and we weren't
[45:57] unanimous
[45:58] , but
[45:58] this
[45:59] splendid
[45:59] option was something
[46:00] we all
[46:01] supported
[46:01] unanimously
[46:03] . So
[46:03] funding
[46:04] is
[46:05] always an issue
[46:05] , of
[46:05] course
[46:07] , but I
[46:07] just put this
[46:08] here. There are
[46:09] these
[46:09] other
[46:10] considerations
[46:10] . These are all
[46:11] of this is
[46:12] more thoroughly
[46:14] uh
[46:14] spelled out in
[46:16] the report. The
[46:16] report is basically written, by
[46:17] the way
[46:18] . It needs
[46:18] some
[46:19] more
[46:19] editing and some additions
[46:20] here
[46:21] and there
[46:21] , but it's
[46:21] pretty much
[46:22] done
[46:23] . So
[46:23] , uh
[46:25] this is all
[46:26] fleshed out in the report
[46:28] . Uh
[46:30] There's a lot of stuff
[46:31] happening in terms
[46:32] of
[46:32] reliability of the technology,
[46:33] but I've
[46:34] kind
[46:34] of implied that a
[46:36] lot
[46:36] that though
[46:37] it's changing
[46:37] this
[46:38] . Um
[46:41] the kind of
[46:41] futureproofing things that you
[46:42] have
[46:43] to do are going to be a
[46:44] lot easier five years from now
[46:44] than they
[46:45] are today
[46:46] . We already
[46:48] mentioned
[46:48] Coast Guard, what
[46:48] does
[46:50] , what does the
[46:50] Coast Guard
[46:51] allow and what it doesn't,
[46:51] that's
[46:52] in flux
[46:53] The industry
[46:53] seems to feel
[46:54] the
[46:54] Coast Guard's
[46:55] behind the times
[46:56] . It's the
[46:57] industry is ahead of
[46:57] the
[46:58] Coast
[46:59] Guard in
[47:00] this area, but
[47:01] again
[47:02] 567 years from now, a
[47:02] lot of
[47:03] that will
[47:04] be resolved
[47:04] . And
[47:05] then
[47:05] there's a
[47:06] very
[47:06] key and
[47:08] Alan
[47:08] was
[47:09] very uh uh
[47:11] . Instrumental in
[47:11] getting
[47:12] us to
[47:13] see this that
[47:14] all
[47:15] these things you're doing to
[47:16] maintain the
[47:17] existing boat,
[47:17] let's say it has something to
[47:18] do with the ramp or the
[47:20] dolphins or something
[47:21] like that
[47:22] If
[47:24] this is the direction you're
[47:24] going to go
[47:26] . What
[47:26] you're
[47:27] doing
[47:28] today needs to be thought about
[47:29] in terms of fitting with
[47:30] where
[47:31] you're going 5 or 6 years
[47:32] from
[47:33] now. So there's a
[47:33] lot
[47:35] of
[47:35] futureproofing
[47:36] basically every
[47:38] project that you do on
[47:39] the
[47:39] existing boat
[47:40] there
[47:40] needs to be
[47:42] a discussion as how does that
[47:42] fit with our long range plan
[47:45] And so you don't find out
[47:46] , you
[47:47] got to pull up
[47:49] . Something and
[47:49] rework
[47:50] it because
[47:50] nobody
[47:51] thought of that. Bris
[47:52] is a
[47:53] good
[47:53] example might be if you're
[47:54] going to rebuild
[47:55] the ramps
[47:55] , and
[47:56] I can't remember if that's on
[47:56] the
[47:58] schedule or not, is
[47:59] it
[48:00] Rachel rebuilding the ramps
[48:02] The aprons, apron
[48:04] . It's
[48:05] on the,
[48:05] it, it's
[48:07] That's
[48:08] what we
[48:09] received the grant
[48:09] funding for
[48:11] and it's 5.8
[48:11] million, is that
[48:12] right, Tom? It's for
[48:13] the
[48:13] electrical
[48:14] and
[48:16] hydraulic
[48:16] replacement on
[48:18] the bridges
[48:18] as
[48:18] well as
[48:19] the replacement of
[48:20] the
[48:20] aprons
[48:20] . So
[48:21] that's. That's a
[48:23] terrific project, but we're
[48:24] we're saying is
[48:25] when
[48:25] you do
[48:25] that
[48:26] project
[48:27] , have the meeting
[48:27] have the discussions
[48:29] about how
[48:29] does this fit with our
[48:30] long-range plan
[48:32] . Uh
[48:36] so
[48:38] bottom
[48:38] line
[48:39] we're
[48:40] recommending to you
[48:41] what we're calling the
[48:42] blended
[48:43] option, which is maintain the
[48:43] existing ferry
[48:44] well
[48:45] , leading to
[48:46] plug-in hybrid with this
[48:47] more
[48:47] modest
[48:47] charging
[48:48] thing
[48:49] , and
[48:49] we
[48:50] encourage you to
[48:51] adopt
[48:52] that
[48:53] and one reason I think we
[48:53] would
[48:54] all
[48:54] we
[48:54] who live on Guaymas
[48:56] Island, you
[48:56] as commissioners
[48:59] Public works
[48:59] , ferry crew
[49:00] . I
[49:01] think we'd all be
[49:02] very happy to
[49:03] say we know where we're going
[49:05] This is
[49:06] our plan, and we
[49:07] are
[49:07] recommending to you that this
[49:08] be your plan
[49:10] . So
[49:10] I guess that's
[49:11] it
[49:12] . Now you got questions, I'm
[49:12] sure
[49:14] . Just thank you very much
[49:16] for the presentation. I don't
[49:17] know if Allan
[49:18] and
[49:19] , uh, Ryan, do
[49:19] you wanna
[49:21] , um
[49:23] , add anything to
[49:23] it at all
[49:23] ? I
[49:24] mean, we
[49:25] really do
[49:25] appreciate all the time and
[49:26] efforts put into it
[49:29] . I
[49:30] , I think
[49:30] yeah, Sandy did
[49:32] a great
[49:32] job, um
[49:32] I guess
[49:34] some comments at the
[49:35] uh, you really need to go to
[49:35] the mic
[49:36] get
[49:37] him at home, be
[49:37] able to hear it
[49:39] . You might, you
[49:39] might want to say more about
[49:40] this. I think this
[49:41] is the
[49:42] key
[49:43] operational
[49:44] . Yeah um yeah
[49:45] thank
[49:46] you for
[49:47] , uh, creating the
[49:48] committee and I think we've had
[49:48] some
[49:50] really
[49:50] great
[49:51] discussions
[49:51] and
[49:52] um have all come to a
[49:53] very
[49:53] good
[49:54] conclusion
[49:54] here
[49:55] Um
[49:55] , as
[49:56] Sandy said
[49:56] , the
[49:57] uh
[49:59] the
[50:00] information shared here
[50:01] is uh
[50:01] was
[50:01] kind of
[50:02] critical step for
[50:03] lot
[50:03] of
[50:04] us to
[50:04] realize that
[50:06] an
[50:06] all electric ferry would be a
[50:08] challenge given the
[50:09] infrastructure upgrades
[50:10] , but
[50:10] changes
[50:11] to
[50:12] charging
[50:13] technology
[50:13] using
[50:14] the
[50:15] current
[50:16] infrastructure allowed
[50:17] us to
[50:18] uh, contribute
[50:19] significantly to
[50:22] emission reductions to put
[50:22] things in perspective
[50:23] , the
[50:23] charger that
[50:23] I put
[50:24] as just
[50:25] an
[50:25] example is
[50:26] about
[50:26] 1/6
[50:27] the power
[50:27] of
[50:28] the
[50:29] charging arm that
[50:30] was
[50:30] previously
[50:31] considered
[50:32] , so
[50:33] that's
[50:33] why it's
[50:34] much
[50:34] more
[50:35] affordable and
[50:36] reasonable and
[50:36] feasible, I should
[50:37] say
[50:37] . Pugist
[50:38] on Energy would like that more
[50:38] too
[50:39] because of the
[50:40] load
[50:40] . So
[50:41] , um
[50:42] and the tech
[50:42] technology is well
[50:44] established there
[50:44] and continues
[50:45] to evolve
[50:47] and so yeah
[50:49] , I think
[50:50] uh several of us thought
[50:50] that
[50:50] you know
[50:51] , in
[50:51] 5 years
[50:53] , if we go
[50:53] out to bid
[50:54] for this
[50:55] new
[50:55] ferry
[50:56] and planned
[50:56] to have
[50:57] , you know,
[50:58] again, depending on how long
[50:59] it
[51:00] takes to get the bids
[51:00] out and
[51:01] build
[51:02] a boat 8
[51:03] to
[51:03] 10
[51:04] years of
[51:05] remaining life
[51:05] for
[51:06] the
[51:07] current
[51:08] ferry at would
[51:09] be ideal
[51:09] . The
[51:10] technology will
[51:10] advance
[51:11] . We've
[51:11] just repowered
[51:12] the
[51:12] current
[51:12] ferry
[51:14] , and so it
[51:14] seems like
[51:15] good timeline
[51:16] , I think so
[51:17] . And
[51:18] I'm happy to answer any
[51:18] questions about
[51:20] the charging.
[51:20] That was kind
[51:22] of
[51:22] my expertise
[51:23] on the projects I've
[51:24] worked on
[51:25] recently, so happy
[51:25] to answer
[51:26] any questions there
[51:28] Commissioner Browning, any
[51:28] questions
[51:29] on
[51:30] that? No, actually
[51:31] I really appreciate it. And,
[51:32] you know, the difference
[51:33] between your trucks and
[51:33] the
[51:34] ferry is you can pull over the
[51:34] side of the road. We can't pull
[51:35] over to
[51:36] the side of the of the
[51:36] ferry
[51:37] , so, so
[51:38] I really love the
[51:38] the
[51:39] , the
[51:39] thinking behind this
[51:40] It really is
[51:41] nice and
[51:41] , and I
[51:42] did
[51:43] not want to pull
[51:43] away
[51:43] from
[51:44] electricity. I just
[51:44] did not
[51:45] want to go
[51:45] fully
[51:46] electric for
[51:46] that
[51:47] reason
[51:47] . And so this has
[51:48] really
[51:49] helped
[51:50] me
[51:50] tremendously
[51:51] listening to
[51:51] all the options
[51:52] you
[51:52] have. I
[51:53] really appreciate
[51:53] the
[51:54] expertise
[51:54] we've brought
[51:55] that was
[51:55] brought together
[51:56] , um
[51:57] the
[51:58] , um, technology with the
[51:59] mean
[52:01] yeah
[52:01] , I love the, the
[52:02] 10
[52:03] year
[52:03] the
[52:03] , the
[52:05] 10
[52:05] years of kind
[52:06] of grace while
[52:07] we work towards
[52:08] really good solution. It's
[52:09] also
[52:10] exactly what fits after
[52:10] all the money we
[52:12] just recently
[52:12] put into it
[52:12] going
[52:13] to
[52:14] run well
[52:15] so everything you brought
[52:16] today
[52:17] is absolutely in line
[52:18] with the,
[52:19] how I've
[52:19] been thinking
[52:20] . I'm
[52:21] not
[52:21] smart enough to know all the
[52:22] complexities
[52:23] , but I still kind
[52:23] of
[52:24] heading the same direction
[52:25] So I love it
[52:26] . It's great. But
[52:26] yeah
[52:27] , thank
[52:28] you. Thank
[52:28] you for
[52:29] all you bring to this because
[52:29] that
[52:30] really
[52:30] is that that's
[52:31] pretty much a game
[52:32] changer when
[52:32] you
[52:33] realize
[52:33] that
[52:34] that arm
[52:34] has
[52:35] been really a problem
[52:35] for
[52:36] us
[52:37] both financially
[52:37] and
[52:38] structurally
[52:39] . At the time
[52:41] when
[52:41] Glaston did that, it made
[52:43] sense
[52:44] But that's the whole point here
[52:44] The technology is
[52:45] moving so
[52:46] quickly
[52:46] it probably
[52:47] doesn't
[52:48] make
[52:48] sense anymore
[52:48] . And
[52:50] I think
[52:50] even with the
[52:51] changes in
[52:51] technology, we need
[52:52] the
[52:53] redundancy that you brought
[52:54] up
[52:55] that is so important. We need
[52:55] to have the
[52:56] safety
[52:57] valve
[52:57] if if
[52:58] one does not work
[52:59] , if the to be
[53:00] able to still get
[53:01] to shore
[53:02] , so
[53:02] that
[53:04] really is the big
[53:04] difference in
[53:04] all electric to
[53:05] this, and
[53:06] I'm real comfortable
[53:06] with it
[53:07] . Mr
[53:08] . Burns
[53:08] , any
[53:09] questions on
[53:09] ? First, thank
[53:10] you
[53:11] all for the effort you put
[53:11] in
[53:12] Um, sounds like
[53:13] a well-rounded
[53:13] group you
[53:14] brought
[53:15] together and
[53:16] uh I appreciate the information
[53:17] that
[53:18] you presented to us. I do
[53:19] have a few
[53:19] questions on, uh,
[53:20] first, the
[53:21] charger. This took
[53:22] roughly equivalent to
[53:23] the
[53:24] automotive
[53:24] uh tier 3
[53:26] . Yeah
[53:26] , it,
[53:26] you know, a
[53:27] lot of people think
[53:28] of
[53:29] Tesla chargers. The one I
[53:29] use, this
[53:29] is equivalent
[53:30] to
[53:31] the
[53:31] highest powered
[53:32] Tesla
[53:33] superchargers. Ok
[53:33] . Um
[53:34] , so like
[53:36] you wouldn't have this at most
[53:36] even
[53:37] retail outlets, because it
[53:38] is pretty
[53:38] high
[53:40] powered, um, so
[53:40] yeah, this has
[53:42] 360 kilowatt
[53:42] rating
[53:44] , the charging arm is
[53:45] megawatt, you know
[53:46] , at your
[53:47] home, you're
[53:47] getting 2
[53:49] or
[53:50] kilowatts, so
[53:51] , um, it's
[53:52] significant
[53:53] , but
[53:53] there's
[53:54] many
[53:55] manufacturers out there
[53:56] , um,
[53:56] there's
[53:58] some discussion
[53:58] of
[53:58] going
[53:59] up
[53:59] to
[54:00] 800
[54:00] kilowatts using
[54:01] this
[54:02] charging standard
[54:03] . Um
[54:03] , I
[54:05] think the highest
[54:05] powered
[54:06] charger that you can buy
[54:06] off
[54:07] the shelf that I'm aware of
[54:07] right
[54:09] now
[54:09] that uses
[54:09] this
[54:10] standard
[54:11] as
[54:11] 450 kilowatts. What
[54:12] if
[54:12] we did like
[54:13] a multi-battery
[54:14] bank and then had a
[54:14] charger on
[54:16] each side or
[54:16] two chargers
[54:16] and
[54:17] that speed
[54:18] up
[54:18] charging
[54:19] and
[54:19] absolutely
[54:20] yeah overheat
[54:21] . Uh,
[54:21] you
[54:21] can use
[54:22] the
[54:23] battery
[54:24] management systems to manage
[54:24] all
[54:24] of
[54:25] that
[54:26] , but
[54:26] I think the
[54:27] reason I
[54:27] just selected
[54:28] one
[54:28] charger
[54:28] for
[54:29] these
[54:30] graphs is
[54:30] the
[54:31] constraints
[54:32] from
[54:32] pse
[54:33] , um,
[54:33] didn't get a
[54:34] chance
[54:34] to discuss
[54:35] with
[54:36] pse what is
[54:36] actually
[54:37] available. Ok
[54:37] . Um
[54:38] , thinking
[54:38] about the Anchor Cove
[54:39] Marina
[54:39] being right next
[54:40] door and the
[54:41] fact that I think
[54:41] probably
[54:42] every
[54:43] birth that marina has
[54:43] 30
[54:44] amp or
[54:44] 50
[54:45] amp outlet
[54:46] There's
[54:46] probably
[54:47] a reasonable
[54:48] amount of energy
[54:48] available
[54:50] , um,
[54:50] but you'd need to
[54:51] have
[54:51] extended
[54:51] discussions
[54:52] with pse
[54:52] about
[54:53] what's
[54:53] available
[54:54] , um, but I
[54:55] think
[54:55] that also
[54:56] goes to
[54:56] the
[54:57] future
[54:58] proofing
[54:59] that if
[54:59] electrical
[55:00] service
[55:00] was improved
[55:01] in the
[55:01] future
[55:02] , you
[55:02] add another
[55:03] one
[55:03] of
[55:04] these
[55:04] 360
[55:05] kilowatt
[55:05] chargers
[55:06] . You
[55:06] could
[55:06] run
[55:07] almost
[55:07] 100% electric a lot of
[55:08] the
[55:08] time
[55:08] ok, what's
[55:09] the maximum
[55:10] cord
[55:10] length on this? I'm thinking
[55:11] about how
[55:12] far away can
[55:12] the boat
[55:13] ? Yeah, it's a good question
[55:14] Um
[55:15] , the
[55:16] , uh, so
[55:17] there's
[55:17] there's
[55:18] different standards
[55:19] There's all in
[55:20] one
[55:21] chargers
[55:21] where from the
[55:22] charging
[55:22] unit
[55:22] that's like
[55:23] that
[55:25] refrigerator-sized unit to
[55:25] the
[55:26] outlet on
[55:27] the boat
[55:27] would be
[55:28] to
[55:29] m, so it's got
[55:29] to be
[55:30] pretty close, like at the end
[55:31] of the
[55:31] ramp. Ok
[55:32] . There's
[55:33] others
[55:33] where you
[55:34] can have
[55:34] the majority
[55:35] of
[55:37] the
[55:38] electrical equipment in
[55:39] other cabinets and that's just
[55:41] smaller dispenser at the end
[55:42] of
[55:42] the ferry
[55:43] or the
[55:43] ferry
[55:44] dock
[55:44] that could have a
[55:46] longer cable
[55:46] so there are
[55:47] limits to that
[55:47] . It
[55:48] just
[55:48] depends
[55:48] on
[55:49] which
[55:49] charging
[55:49] system
[55:50] you use
[55:51] . Has anyone set
[55:52] it up where it's actually
[55:52] on
[55:52] the
[55:53] , the
[55:55] don't know
[55:55] about
[55:55] moving
[55:57] ramps
[55:57] . Um
[55:57] , I saw one
[55:58] example. I think
[55:59] it was
[55:59] in
[56:00] Turkey
[56:00] , where they
[56:01] actually
[56:01] had
[56:02] 20 of these
[56:04] style
[56:04] chargers
[56:04] , all
[56:05] on a
[56:06] fixed
[56:06] pier
[56:07] so yeah
[56:07] , the
[56:08] moving pier makes it
[56:09] challenge
[56:09] , but
[56:10] as I recall
[56:12] , the
[56:13] charger weighs somewhere
[56:14] around
[56:14] 2000 pounds
[56:15] , so
[56:16] it's
[56:16] not
[56:17] extremely heavy
[56:17] . Yeah
[56:18] . Um
[56:18] , what
[56:20] is the max drawdown on
[56:20] these
[56:20] batteries because I see
[56:21] that
[56:22] they're showing going under
[56:24] 200
[56:25] kilowatt hours. I
[56:26] wasn't sure
[56:26] what the max
[56:27] draw down before
[56:27] you're causing problems
[56:28] with
[56:29] the battery. Yeah, no, that,
[56:29] that's a great
[56:31] question
[56:31] . I
[56:33] didn't really use that in
[56:33] the
[56:34] analysis because it's such
[56:36] basic analysis
[56:36] right here
[56:36] . Um
[56:39] ideally, you know
[56:39] , for some
[56:39] people who might
[56:40] drive
[56:40] electric
[56:41] cars. Um-hum
[56:41] . You
[56:42] try to
[56:42] use
[56:44] daily operational range of 80
[56:45] to 20%
[56:45] . So
[56:46] you could
[56:46] factor
[56:47] that in and by sizing up
[56:49] the
[56:49] batteries a little bit. Um-hum.
[56:50] To give you
[56:51] more range
[56:51] . Ok
[56:51] . Um
[56:53] I chose a
[56:54] megawatt hour
[56:55] battery or
[56:56] 1000 kilowatt
[56:57] hour
[56:58] battery, um, because I think
[56:59] that had been discussed in one
[56:59] of
[57:00] the
[57:01] earlier reports
[57:02] , um
[57:03] but
[57:03] the
[57:05] , uh, energy density in
[57:05] batteries is improving
[57:07] , so what
[57:10] 1000 kilowatt hour battery
[57:10] MAY
[57:11] have weighed 10 years ago
[57:13] It's significantly reduced, so
[57:14] you could size that
[57:15] up
[57:16] to
[57:16] 1200
[57:17] kilowatt hours to give you a
[57:17] little
[57:18] more
[57:18] flexibility
[57:19] and
[57:19] longevity
[57:20] . Ok. Uh
[57:21] , I can ask
[57:21] more questions, but I'll stop
[57:23] there and just thank you
[57:23] for
[57:23] the
[57:24] review and
[57:25] the analysis
[57:25] of
[57:25] this
[57:25] . I
[57:26] think that
[57:27] the
[57:27] recommendation put forward
[57:28] makes a lot
[57:29] of sense
[57:29] . The
[57:30] hybrid does give us lot
[57:31] of
[57:31] flexibility if there's ever
[57:33] power problem, you know
[57:33] , we
[57:34] lose
[57:34] power to
[57:35] that station
[57:35] It's very
[57:36] easy to just kick on
[57:37] the
[57:37] diesel generators and run
[57:38] it
[57:39] , um, Commissioner Wheaton
[57:40] was correct that
[57:40] uh emission
[57:41] standards have, have come a
[57:42] long ways on these engines
[57:43] although you can make them run
[57:44] quite dirty. You
[57:45] can also make
[57:45] them very
[57:45] clean
[57:46] , uh, depending
[57:46] on
[57:47] the
[57:47] emissions
[57:48] outputs. You
[57:48] you at Packard, I'm
[57:49] sure you're
[57:50] you're completely used to
[57:51] dealing
[57:51] with
[57:52] those mission
[57:52] systems as I
[57:53] was where you
[57:54] can
[57:54] literally take the
[57:55] exhaust
[57:55] filters off and
[57:56] wash them
[57:57] . Um
[57:58] and
[57:59] , uh, helped capture quite a
[57:59] bit of that carbon
[58:00] that's
[58:00] coming off
[58:01] of it and
[58:01] you really
[58:02] just don't see
[58:02] the same
[58:03] type
[58:03] of
[58:03] mission
[58:04] . So
[58:04] , um, I'd
[58:05] be
[58:06] perfectly
[58:06] comfortable with
[58:07] with that type
[58:07] of
[58:08] propulsion
[58:09] system being the backup
[58:09] . And
[58:10] making sure that we could keep
[58:10] running it, especially
[58:12] in
[58:12] rough
[58:12] seas where we're not
[58:13] overloading the
[58:14] boat
[58:14] with
[58:15] batteries to, you know
[58:16] , weight
[58:17] ratios and become an issue, I'm
[58:17] sure at
[58:18] some point
[58:19] . So
[58:19] , yeah
[58:20] thank you
[58:21] . Yeah. Yeah
[58:21] , one
[58:22] question I have on the
[58:23] , the
[58:24] batteries. I mean
[58:24] , your
[58:25] nice
[58:26] graphs I I appreciate that, but
[58:26] like
[58:26] if you
[58:27] had 3
[58:28] or
[58:29] generators and when it
[58:29] starts
[58:30] getting down
[58:30] , you just
[58:30] kick one
[58:31] on
[58:31] . If you
[58:32] still need more
[58:32] , you
[58:32] kick
[58:33] the second
[58:33] one
[58:34] and maybe
[58:34] the
[58:34] 3rd
[58:35] 1, so you're
[58:37] just still
[58:37] using
[58:38] the battery
[58:38] , but
[58:39] you're
[58:39] adding
[58:40] the generator to
[58:40] get
[58:40] the
[58:41] electricity on it, that's right
[58:41] ? Yeah, that's
[58:42] correct
[58:42] . Yeah
[58:43] yeah
[58:44] Yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah, you
[58:45] you, you know
[58:46] , you'd
[58:46] set
[58:46] up
[58:46] logic in
[58:47] the
[58:48] system
[58:48] to say, ok
[58:49] when we
[58:49] get to
[58:51] 40% and we have
[58:52] whatever
[58:53] , 12
[58:53] runs left in
[58:53] the
[58:54] day
[58:55] . We're going to kick the
[58:56] batteries on to make sure we
[58:56] don't
[58:57] drop
[58:57] to 2%
[58:58] , something
[58:58] like
[58:59] that, that can
[58:59] all be
[59:00] built into
[59:00] the logic
[59:01] and
[59:02] on
[59:02] the
[59:03] redundancy, I understand, you
[59:03] know, 2
[59:04] or
[59:05] generators
[59:05] , 4
[59:06] generators
[59:06] there
[59:06] , but
[59:07] the
[59:07] batteries
[59:08] to redundancy
[59:09] on that
[59:10] they're complicated enough that
[59:11] they
[59:11] can figure out
[59:11] what to do.
[59:12] I mean, you
[59:13] know more about
[59:13] the
[59:13] batteries
[59:13] than I
[59:14] do
[59:14] , so yeah
[59:15] I'm not
[59:16] a battery
[59:16] expert. I
[59:17] have a little more
[59:18] expertise on
[59:18] the charging
[59:19] side
[59:20] , but there's
[59:21] sale balance
[59:21] balancing the
[59:22] battery management system
[59:24] Takes care of that in
[59:24] the
[59:25] software
[59:26] , um, but
[59:27] , uh, yeah
[59:28] that's, it
[59:29] is
[59:29] quite
[59:30] complex.
[59:31] Yep, like you said
[59:31] , the
[59:32] technology keeps changing
[59:33] , so
[59:34] thank you very much for your
[59:35] expertise to bring to the
[59:36] committee. I
[59:36] appreciate that
[59:37] Thank you
[59:38] . Allen, do you want
[59:38] to comment
[59:39] at
[59:40] all or
[59:44] Yes
[59:45] thanks
[59:46] for taking the
[59:47] time
[59:47] today to hear us
[59:49] . Um
[59:50] , I guess
[59:50] the
[59:51] main
[59:51] thing would be
[59:52] the
[59:52] futureproofing
[59:53] and
[59:54] you
[59:55] making
[59:56] decisions regarding a new
[59:56] ferry
[59:56] if
[59:58] we
[59:58] are indeed
[59:59] getting
[1:00:01] new
[1:00:01] bigger
[1:00:02] homo cars
[1:00:03] , more
[1:00:03] people,
[1:00:04] larger
[1:00:05] . Um
[1:00:05] we just
[1:00:07] need to keep
[1:00:07] in mind that it
[1:00:08] is affecting
[1:00:10] system
[1:00:11] that
[1:00:12] moves people to and
[1:00:14] from Guimas and
[1:00:15] that um if
[1:00:15] we're gonna
[1:00:18] . Discuss a parking
[1:00:18] lot
[1:00:20] that
[1:00:21] accommodates, you know
[1:00:23] 50% of what we
[1:00:23] have now
[1:00:25] We need
[1:00:25] to keep that in
[1:00:27] mind so that
[1:00:27] we're not
[1:00:28] designing things
[1:00:30] the system that
[1:00:30] won't
[1:00:31] accommodate
[1:00:32] a desire
[1:00:34] plan
[1:00:35] going forward. So
[1:00:36] if we're
[1:00:37] looking
[1:00:38] at aprons
[1:00:40] , um, doc
[1:00:41] dolphins, all that type of
[1:00:42] thing. We need to
[1:00:43] make
[1:00:43] sure
[1:00:44] that with
[1:00:44] our
[1:00:45] current
[1:00:46] proposal
[1:00:47] here
[1:00:48] or idea
[1:00:48] that
[1:00:49] we're
[1:00:50] accommodating an
[1:00:51] old
[1:00:51] ferry
[1:00:52] that's 40
[1:00:53] years
[1:00:53] old and
[1:00:54] that it
[1:00:56] uh, anything we do to
[1:00:58] the
[1:00:58] system
[1:00:59] uh open
[1:01:00] change and
[1:01:01] that
[1:01:01] new ferry coming on
[1:01:03] accommodates both at the same
[1:01:04] time, so we're
[1:01:05] not
[1:01:06] obsoleting
[1:01:06] our, our idea in
[1:01:08] the
[1:01:09] future or
[1:01:11] taking anything away from
[1:01:13] the current system, so if
[1:01:14] sizes
[1:01:15] and
[1:01:16] shapes
[1:01:16] and
[1:01:17] and throughput
[1:01:17] if we're
[1:01:19] talking about a
[1:01:19] schedule change
[1:01:21] , reducing
[1:01:22] ferry service
[1:01:23] , uh, that
[1:01:24] kind of
[1:01:25] goes against
[1:01:25] a bigger
[1:01:26] , larger
[1:01:27] more
[1:01:28] efficient
[1:01:28] ferry
[1:01:30] . I mean we
[1:01:31] can
[1:01:31] get into
[1:01:32] fairs
[1:01:33] even
[1:01:35] we're experiencing
[1:01:35] loss in
[1:01:37] that growth of why we need a
[1:01:38] bigger ferry or a
[1:01:39] more
[1:01:40] efficient ferry
[1:01:41] , um, and we
[1:01:42] don't have the
[1:01:42] ridership
[1:01:44] support it
[1:01:44] . It
[1:01:45] becomes
[1:01:45] difficult to go out and
[1:01:46] get
[1:01:46] funding that
[1:01:48] we're needing to
[1:01:49] uh, you know
[1:01:49] , funders and
[1:01:50] saying
[1:01:50] , hey, we
[1:01:51] need
[1:01:52] new
[1:01:52] ferry
[1:01:53] , and yet
[1:01:54] we don't have
[1:01:54] the
[1:01:54] use
[1:01:55] um we're doing
[1:01:56] other
[1:01:57] things within
[1:01:57] the
[1:01:58] system to
[1:01:59] , uh
[1:02:00] guess my marketing
[1:02:01] Background
[1:02:02] we've
[1:02:02] got to sell
[1:02:04] and so
[1:02:05] uh we've got to keep all
[1:02:07] those elements in mind on
[1:02:07] the
[1:02:07] system and make
[1:02:08] sure
[1:02:09] that we're
[1:02:09] planning for the future
[1:02:10] if this
[1:02:11] the way
[1:02:11] we're going to do it
[1:02:12] because this is
[1:02:13] expensive
[1:02:14] endeavor, so
[1:02:16] . Ok
[1:02:17] , any questions
[1:02:17] for Alan
[1:02:24] ? I forgot to mention
[1:02:25] one thing that I found useful
[1:02:26] looking at this
[1:02:27] graph again
[1:02:28] . If
[1:02:29] you
[1:02:29] think about technology, you
[1:02:30] have
[1:02:31] some
[1:02:31] good questions along
[1:02:32] these lines
[1:02:33] , you know, what
[1:02:34] happens when the
[1:02:35] battery
[1:02:36] getting low and so on and
[1:02:36] forth
[1:02:38] . If you look at this
[1:02:39] let's just look at this
[1:02:40] top
[1:02:40] graph
[1:02:41] . Let's
[1:02:42] say
[1:02:43] batteries
[1:02:43] have
[1:02:43] 50%
[1:02:44] more
[1:02:45] capacity 4 years from
[1:02:45] now
[1:02:47] . Then what we'd be looking
[1:02:47] at today
[1:02:49] . If
[1:02:49] you just take that
[1:02:50] red line, well, I
[1:02:51] guess it's
[1:02:51] better to look at the
[1:02:52] bottom
[1:02:52] one and move
[1:02:54] it up
[1:02:54] . Let's
[1:02:54] say
[1:02:54] it's
[1:02:55] got another
[1:02:56] . 300
[1:02:58] 400
[1:02:58] kilowatt
[1:03:00] The effect on
[1:03:01] these
[1:03:01] lines is that it
[1:03:02] just moves
[1:03:03] them up. In other words, toward
[1:03:03] the end of the day
[1:03:05] , if the
[1:03:05] capacity of the
[1:03:05] batteries
[1:03:06] improved
[1:03:07] enough in the next 3
[1:03:07] or 4 years
[1:03:07] , it
[1:03:08] would run out at
[1:03:09] the end of the day
[1:03:10] . So that's
[1:03:10] one way to
[1:03:12] look
[1:03:13] at technology
[1:03:15] for electrification with these
[1:03:15] graphs
[1:03:16] , that is, if
[1:03:18] there is
[1:03:19] more capacity in batteries
[1:03:21] that red line just
[1:03:21] goes up
[1:03:22] Another
[1:03:23] thing is if the
[1:03:23] amount
[1:03:25] of amps that you could push
[1:03:26] down the
[1:03:27] line to, to
[1:03:28] charge,
[1:03:28] that just means these
[1:03:30] red lines
[1:03:30] these
[1:03:32] little jags that go
[1:03:33] are
[1:03:34] steeper. So you can kind
[1:03:35] visualize
[1:03:37] the effect of some of
[1:03:37] these
[1:03:38] technology changes by
[1:03:39] just moving this graph up and
[1:03:41] down or changing the slope of
[1:03:41] some of the lines
[1:03:43] . I
[1:03:43] found that
[1:03:43] helpful to
[1:03:44] think about
[1:03:45] the
[1:03:46] impact of technology
[1:03:46] . And
[1:03:47] one
[1:03:48] last comment I want to make is
[1:03:48] I just want
[1:03:50] to say
[1:03:50] in all
[1:03:52] our
[1:03:53] meetings, I guess we had 8
[1:03:55] I think, um
[1:03:56] you
[1:03:56] know, your
[1:03:57] people, we're there
[1:03:58] . County
[1:03:59] was
[1:03:59] there. Rachel
[1:03:59] was always there.
[1:04:00] Marie
[1:04:01] was there many
[1:04:01] times
[1:04:02] , and
[1:04:04] other people helping us. I
[1:04:04] just
[1:04:04] want to
[1:04:05] 0.1 thing out
[1:04:06] cause
[1:04:07] it's uh I think it's
[1:04:07] very
[1:04:08] important
[1:04:08] . You're
[1:04:09] getting
[1:04:11] independent
[1:04:12] citizen-based
[1:04:13] recommendation here, and I
[1:04:15] really compliment
[1:04:15] especially
[1:04:16] Rachel, that
[1:04:18] , at no time
[1:04:19] were redirected in
[1:04:20] some
[1:04:21] direction or
[1:04:22] corrected
[1:04:25] encouraged to take
[1:04:26] particular
[1:04:26] point of view. They were there
[1:04:27] to help us
[1:04:28] , to
[1:04:28] give us
[1:04:29] background, to
[1:04:29] give
[1:04:31] information, and I thought that
[1:04:32] was very
[1:04:33] took some discipline
[1:04:34] I think
[1:04:35] , because I, I'm sure
[1:04:35] they all have their
[1:04:37] own
[1:04:37] ideas
[1:04:38] but the
[1:04:39] , the 9
[1:04:40] of us on
[1:04:40] the
[1:04:41] tag
[1:04:42] This
[1:04:42] our
[1:04:43] thoughts without
[1:04:44] having been influenced by
[1:04:45] the
[1:04:45] county
[1:04:46] , and I
[1:04:46] think
[1:04:47] that's
[1:04:47] important to point out
[1:04:49] . Thank
[1:04:49] you
[1:04:50] . Anything else
[1:04:51] ? Commission
[1:04:51] Burns, any other thoughts on
[1:04:52] this
[1:04:53] ? Um
[1:04:53] , just wanted to
[1:04:53] ask
[1:04:54] Rachel, if
[1:04:55] could
[1:04:55] contact pse
[1:04:56] and just ask
[1:04:56] them what
[1:04:57] power is
[1:04:58] available right now
[1:04:58] in that
[1:04:59] area
[1:04:59] . I'd
[1:05:00] appreciate
[1:05:00] that
[1:05:01] information
[1:05:02] . Otherwise, uh,
[1:05:03] that's all the questions I have
[1:05:04] Thank you, Mr
[1:05:04] . Browning,
[1:05:05] anything
[1:05:06] ? Well
[1:05:06] , I've
[1:05:06] never
[1:05:07] wanted to be
[1:05:07] the
[1:05:08] person with
[1:05:09] the
[1:05:10] first electric boat out
[1:05:11] there and
[1:05:12] vulnerable
[1:05:13] whatever could potentially go
[1:05:14] wrong
[1:05:14] . So this is
[1:05:15] really
[1:05:16] encouraging for me because I
[1:05:17] don't want to be the head of
[1:05:17] the
[1:05:18] parade. I
[1:05:18] think Scout
[1:05:18] needs
[1:05:19] be very smart
[1:05:20] and sit back
[1:05:20] and see
[1:05:21] what's
[1:05:21] working and
[1:05:22] join
[1:05:22] the people who
[1:05:23] are
[1:05:23] successful
[1:05:24] rather than
[1:05:25] be vulnerable
[1:05:25] with
[1:05:26] something. So
[1:05:27] this is
[1:05:27] very
[1:05:28] comforting for me, so
[1:05:28] thank you
[1:05:29] And
[1:05:30] you're lucky to have
[1:05:31] this
[1:05:32] well-built boat. It gets us
[1:05:32] from here to
[1:05:33] there
[1:05:33] . You're
[1:05:34] right. All right, once again, I
[1:05:36] want to thank all the
[1:05:36] committee
[1:05:38] members and all the time and
[1:05:39] effort put into this. I really
[1:05:40] do appreciate that. I think it
[1:05:41] goes to show
[1:05:42] , um, you get
[1:05:43] the
[1:05:43] expertise and the knowledge
[1:05:44] that
[1:05:45] people want to put in time
[1:05:45] you come up with the good
[1:05:46] results, and so
[1:05:47] really
[1:05:48] appreciate what you guys were
[1:05:48] able to come up with
[1:05:49] here and
[1:05:50] thank you for
[1:05:50] all the time
[1:05:51] and effort
[1:05:52] bringing and
[1:05:52] also
[1:05:53] the support staff
[1:05:53] had on
[1:05:54] the
[1:05:54] process
[1:05:55] . I understand
[1:05:56] definitely takes time
[1:05:57] , but
[1:05:57] think
[1:05:58] the results here
[1:05:59] are
[1:06:00] very
[1:06:01] um very
[1:06:01] good. So
[1:06:01] thank you for
[1:06:02] all
[1:06:02] the time and effort
[1:06:05] . Rachel
[1:06:05] anything else
[1:06:07] ? Uh
[1:06:08] , no
[1:06:08] , we have
[1:06:08] until
[1:06:10] o'clock if there was
[1:06:10] more discussion
[1:06:11] , but
[1:06:12] uh if
[1:06:12] not
[1:06:12] Marie
[1:06:14] , did you have anything
[1:06:15] else? I don't. I just want
[1:06:16] thank you guys
[1:06:16] for
[1:06:17] coming
[1:06:19] and
[1:06:19] working
[1:06:19] well
[1:06:21] together and
[1:06:21] coming up
[1:06:22] with
[1:06:22] this
[1:06:22] recommendation
[1:06:23] . It was a feat
[1:06:24] But you
[1:06:25] got there
[1:06:27] I think
[1:06:28] also goes to show that the
[1:06:29] tag
[1:06:30] group for a
[1:06:30] specific
[1:06:31] projects
[1:06:32] that can work on a system to
[1:06:33] have the good
[1:06:34] people
[1:06:34] volunteer
[1:06:35] to do some come up with
[1:06:36] some
[1:06:37] good answers looking at
[1:06:37] some
[1:06:38] things outside
[1:06:38] the
[1:06:39] box
[1:06:40] different options and so
[1:06:40] forth.
[1:06:41] So I
[1:06:41] really
[1:06:42] think
[1:06:43] the members
[1:06:43] and all
[1:06:44] the different
[1:06:44] people
[1:06:44] put time in
[1:06:45] it's really
[1:06:46] important
[1:06:48] . Any other questions
[1:06:51] Well, with that, we
[1:06:52] are going
[1:06:53] adjourn until
[1:06:54] o'clock
[1:06:55] today we have
[1:06:56] Public works back
[1:06:57] in here. With that we're
[1:06:58] adjourned. Thank you
[1:07:12] , um, and
[1:07:13] it's
[1:07:15] , it's antiquated
[1:07:15] , it's
[1:07:16] ancient
[1:07:16] barely keeps up in
[1:07:17] the
[1:07:18] springtime. Well, this spring
[1:07:19] was the first time we
[1:07:19] violated
[1:07:20] our permit. Didn't
[1:07:20] violate it
[1:07:20] by much, but
[1:07:21] enough to
[1:07:23] uh uh
[1:07:23] exceed
[1:07:24] those
[1:07:25] thresholds this
[1:07:25] spring. So
[1:07:27] , uh, every spring
[1:07:28] this belt press can't keep
[1:07:29] with it, just
[1:07:29] a a
[1:07:30] a little
[1:07:31] bit
[1:07:31] of very
[1:07:32] labor intensive and
[1:07:33] frequent maintenance
[1:07:33] with
[1:07:34] this
[1:07:34] thing
[1:07:35] . Um
[1:07:36] has very
[1:07:37] poor
[1:07:37] performance
[1:07:38] . It
[1:07:38] , it
[1:07:40] , it
[1:07:40] produces about
[1:07:41] reduces
[1:07:42] uh uh
[1:07:43] liquid stream by 8 to 12%
[1:09:47] Sketch County commissions to
[1:09:48] order
[1:09:48] . It
[1:09:49] JULY 7
[1:09:50] , 2026, a
[1:09:51] little after 11 o'clock
[1:09:51] in the
[1:09:52] morning and we are here
[1:09:52] with
[1:09:52] Public
[1:09:53] Works
[1:09:53] and consider
[1:09:54] testimony regarding
[1:09:56] the sale
[1:09:57] surplus property
[1:09:58] , so
[1:10:00] . I'm
[1:10:00] gonna
[1:10:01] let Tom
[1:10:02] It's a
[1:10:03] county engineer.
[1:10:03] Good. Good morning,
[1:10:03] commissioners
[1:10:05] . Again
[1:10:05] , this is
[1:10:05] for
[1:10:07] , um, surplus vehicles and
[1:10:08] other
[1:10:09] equipment and
[1:10:09] , uh, we
[1:10:10] scheduled this meeting, uh
[1:10:11] for
[1:10:12] public
[1:10:12] hearing because
[1:10:14] we've
[1:10:14] got many
[1:10:15] items here that
[1:10:16] are
[1:10:16] valued greater
[1:10:16] than
[1:10:18] $2500 and
[1:10:19] then we've also
[1:10:19] got some uh
[1:10:21] Newark County policy
[1:10:22] with
[1:10:23] regards to
[1:10:23] when
[1:10:24] um send
[1:10:25] vehicles to
[1:10:26] auction
[1:10:26] when we
[1:10:26] put
[1:10:28] them
[1:10:29] um maintenance and um
[1:10:32] m&o operation and so
[1:10:33] , uh,
[1:10:33] without further ado
[1:10:34] , I
[1:10:34] will
[1:10:35] kick
[1:10:35] things over
[1:10:36] Jason to go
[1:10:37] through the
[1:10:37] details of what
[1:10:39] we're proposing to auction this
[1:10:39] fall
[1:10:41] . All right. Good afternoon
[1:10:41] commissioners
[1:10:43] . I'm
[1:10:43] Jason
[1:10:43] Bleddgood
[1:10:44] . I'm representing
[1:10:45] the
[1:10:46] equipment division of Skagia
[1:10:46] County
[1:10:47] Public
[1:10:48] Works
[1:10:48] . This is
[1:10:49] the public
[1:10:50] hearing to
[1:10:50] allow
[1:10:50] Sedget County
[1:10:51] to surplus
[1:10:52] the
[1:10:52] items that you
[1:10:53] see listed in
[1:10:54] your packet as
[1:10:54] well as
[1:10:55] the
[1:10:56] screen. All
[1:10:56] the
[1:10:57] vehicles
[1:10:57] and
[1:10:58] equipment on this
[1:10:58] list that
[1:10:59] you
[1:11:00] have today reached the end of
[1:11:00] their
[1:11:01] useful
[1:11:01] lives and
[1:11:02] have
[1:11:03] been replaced or are
[1:11:03] longer
[1:11:04] needed
[1:11:04] . Some
[1:11:05] the
[1:11:06] items
[1:11:06] have
[1:11:07] reached the end of
[1:11:08] even
[1:11:08] two
[1:11:09] lives
[1:11:10] . Each year
[1:11:10] during the
[1:11:11] budget process
[1:11:11] , we
[1:11:12] request to
[1:11:13] replace vehicles
[1:11:13] and equipment
[1:11:14] based on
[1:11:15] a combination of
[1:11:16] the
[1:11:17] following factors
[1:11:18] , um, you'll
[1:11:18] see
[1:11:19] some are
[1:11:20] , uh, 6 years
[1:11:20] for a
[1:11:21] share
[1:11:21] of vehicles
[1:11:22] , 10 years for
[1:11:24] our passenger cars
[1:11:25] and 20 years
[1:11:25] for
[1:11:26] our
[1:11:26] heavy equipment
[1:11:27] . When
[1:11:27] we get
[1:11:28] close to that
[1:11:29] original
[1:11:29] assigned replacement
[1:11:30] year
[1:11:31] , we
[1:11:31] evaluate each
[1:11:32] vehicle
[1:11:33] , um, the
[1:11:33] last couple of years we've
[1:11:34] really taken
[1:11:35] a good look
[1:11:36] mileage and seeing if we
[1:11:37] can
[1:11:37] push some of
[1:11:38] those
[1:11:38] , even 10
[1:11:39] years
[1:11:40] for
[1:11:40] passenger
[1:11:40] cars
[1:11:41] to 12
[1:11:42] and
[1:11:43] 8 on
[1:11:43] sheriff vehicles
[1:11:46] After evaluating each unit, we
[1:11:47] determine if it makes
[1:11:48] the
[1:11:48] most
[1:11:49] sense to replace it
[1:11:49] or keep
[1:11:50] for
[1:11:51] additional years of service. In
[1:11:52] some cases
[1:11:53] we keep
[1:11:53] the unit
[1:11:53] for
[1:11:54] several more years
[1:11:56] . If
[1:11:57] we do
[1:11:58] replace it and no
[1:11:58] longer have a
[1:11:58] need for it
[1:12:00] , we will go through
[1:12:00] the surplus
[1:12:02] process
[1:12:02] also
[1:12:02] , um,
[1:12:03] after the
[1:12:04] public hearing,
[1:12:04] you'll
[1:12:05] see
[1:12:05] a resolution be
[1:12:06] routed
[1:12:07] , our
[1:12:07] surplus will
[1:12:08] sold at
[1:12:09] the James
[1:12:10] . Murphy
[1:12:10] auction
[1:12:11] in Marysville
[1:12:12] . Um
[1:12:12] , it
[1:12:12] starts at 10
[1:12:13] o'clock OCTOBER
[1:12:14] 1st and ends
[1:12:15] at 10:00
[1:12:16] A.M.
[1:12:16] OCTOBER 8th
[1:12:17] . The
[1:12:18] Murphy Company
[1:12:18] will
[1:12:19] have a hold
[1:12:20] , a preview
[1:12:22] person starting at 8
[1:12:23] OCTOBER
[1:12:24] 6th
[1:12:24] and
[1:12:25] 7th, and you
[1:12:26] can also
[1:12:27] , and all
[1:12:27] the
[1:12:27] auction
[1:12:28] items will be
[1:12:28] done online
[1:12:31] . Um
[1:12:32] you'll see it in members of the
[1:12:32] public are
[1:12:33] welcome to call me
[1:12:34] and ask
[1:12:34] questions
[1:12:35] , um, about
[1:12:36] any of the equipment
[1:12:40] . I'll
[1:12:40] make
[1:12:40] a note
[1:12:41] , you'll see
[1:12:42] we do
[1:12:42] have a
[1:12:43] couple of
[1:12:43] vehicles
[1:12:44] under
[1:12:46] 100,000 miles um two of
[1:12:47] those
[1:12:48] are snowplow vehicles
[1:12:48] that are,
[1:12:49] , pretty
[1:12:50] , pretty rough shape
[1:12:50] from
[1:12:51] the salt and all
[1:12:52] the
[1:12:52] chemicals
[1:12:53] , and
[1:12:54] then you'll see
[1:12:56] um, 2010
[1:12:56] and
[1:12:57] 2065
[1:12:57] , uh, those
[1:12:58] are
[1:12:59] actually turned in
[1:12:59] departments
[1:13:00] do their budget.
[1:13:01] They need to reduce
[1:13:02] their fleet
[1:13:03] and then
[1:13:03] they decided they no
[1:13:04] longer needed those
[1:13:08] . Um, but
[1:13:09] that
[1:13:10] you guys have
[1:13:10] any
[1:13:10] questions
[1:13:12] ? MR. Burns
[1:13:12] , any
[1:13:12] questions
[1:13:14] ? No
[1:13:16] , overall, this
[1:13:17] makes sense to me. Look at the
[1:13:17] mileage. I mean
[1:13:19] , the
[1:13:20] interceptors have tons of
[1:13:20] idle
[1:13:21] hours on them. I'm going to
[1:13:21] guess
[1:13:23] the f550s
[1:13:23] are
[1:13:23] probably
[1:13:24] somewhere in the same boat plus
[1:13:25] just time
[1:13:26] sitting. Yeah
[1:13:27] really, yeah
[1:13:27] , pretty
[1:13:28] in the
[1:13:29] sand and salt and
[1:13:30] the chemicals
[1:13:31] what kills
[1:13:31] them
[1:13:31] mostly
[1:13:32] . Ok.
[1:13:32] , we've done
[1:13:33] a pretty
[1:13:33] good
[1:13:33] job
[1:13:34] last year or
[1:13:34] 2 years ago
[1:13:35] we started
[1:13:35] a new
[1:13:37] , uh, process
[1:13:38] after a snow
[1:13:38] season
[1:13:39] of cleaning
[1:13:40] and
[1:13:40] , and that seems
[1:13:41] to really
[1:13:41] helping
[1:13:42] our chassis
[1:13:43] and
[1:13:44] undercarriage. Ok. Well
[1:13:44] , good,
[1:13:44] good
[1:13:45] . I'm
[1:13:45] , uh, I'm
[1:13:46] glad that's
[1:13:46] going to help uh, extend the
[1:13:47] life of
[1:13:47] the vehicles, but now
[1:13:48] these all make sense to me
[1:13:49] Thank you
[1:13:50] . Mr
[1:13:50] . Browning, any
[1:13:51] questions
[1:13:52] ? No
[1:13:52] , but I appreciate
[1:13:53] your, your
[1:13:54] looking
[1:13:55] the
[1:13:55] appropriate use and
[1:13:56] not just
[1:13:58] just years and miles
[1:13:59] , but kind
[1:14:00] a combination and
[1:14:01] I'm trying
[1:14:01] visualize
[1:14:03] 2011
[1:14:04] 550 Ford
[1:14:04] but
[1:14:06] it's
[1:14:06] those
[1:14:06] snowplow trucks.
[1:14:07] Yeah
[1:14:08] . Yeah, yeah, the
[1:14:08] the yeah,
[1:14:09] they're
[1:14:10] , they're
[1:14:10] , they've
[1:14:11] been
[1:14:11] pretty, pretty
[1:14:11] rough shape
[1:14:12] yeah
[1:14:13] , yeah. Hate to have one of
[1:14:15] their wheels fall
[1:14:17] off
[1:14:20] . Yeah,
[1:14:20] but
[1:14:22] Any
[1:14:22] other
[1:14:24] questions? No
[1:14:24] . Um
[1:14:25] thank you
[1:14:26] very much for
[1:14:27] bringing me through and going
[1:14:27] through and
[1:14:28] evaluating and just
[1:14:29] like you
[1:14:29] did mention all
[1:14:31] these have already been
[1:14:31] replaced or chosen
[1:14:32] not
[1:14:33] replace
[1:14:33] them, correct
[1:14:35] ? And the
[1:14:35] way our
[1:14:35] enr
[1:14:36] works is
[1:14:37] the
[1:14:38] department that uses them
[1:14:40] when
[1:14:40] replacement
[1:14:41] vehicle
[1:14:42] comes in,
[1:14:42] then you start
[1:14:42] , we
[1:14:44] start
[1:14:44] taking
[1:14:44] money out of
[1:14:45] their
[1:14:45] department
[1:14:47] yearly operation to buy
[1:14:48] new
[1:14:49] vehicle when this
[1:14:49] one wears
[1:14:49] out
[1:14:51] is this
[1:14:51] , but then there are
[1:14:52] some we just go on the
[1:14:53] maintenance and operation
[1:14:55] which
[1:14:56] are
[1:14:56] generally for
[1:14:57] local
[1:14:57] use
[1:14:58] for
[1:14:58] different departments. Yep, yep
[1:15:00] and as budget times are coming
[1:15:01] with
[1:15:02] a lot of
[1:15:02] people are
[1:15:03] realizing they
[1:15:04] , well
[1:15:04] , obviously
[1:15:05] 2010
[1:15:07] with 55,000 miles on it
[1:15:08] probably wasn't
[1:15:09] needed, so
[1:15:09] that's why we got rid
[1:15:10] that
[1:15:10] one
[1:15:11] . Yeah
[1:15:11] , but that's
[1:15:12] the
[1:15:12] departments making those
[1:15:13] choices
[1:15:14] . You're
[1:15:14] just
[1:15:14] running
[1:15:16] the
[1:15:16] rental
[1:15:17] fleet because
[1:15:18] you're
[1:15:18] doing
[1:15:18] , so
[1:15:18] . Yeah
[1:15:19] . That's all the
[1:15:20] questions
[1:15:20] I have. So
[1:15:21] this is
[1:15:23] public hearing on
[1:15:24] the
[1:15:25] disposition of these
[1:15:27] . Um
[1:15:28] vehicles for
[1:15:29] um surplus. Is
[1:15:30] there anybody from the
[1:15:31] public
[1:15:32] like to comment on those
[1:15:34] Anybody from
[1:15:36] the public like to
[1:15:36] comment on the surplus of these
[1:15:37] vehicles
[1:15:40] . Do you
[1:15:40] have anybody
[1:15:41] online
[1:15:42] Yes, but
[1:15:42] I think they're
[1:15:43] here for the
[1:15:43] 11:30
[1:15:44] . Ok
[1:15:49] . Any
[1:15:50] other questions? Any other
[1:15:50] comments
[1:15:52] ? We
[1:15:54] must have a motion
[1:15:55] here somewhere, don't we? I
[1:15:55] like
[1:15:56] to move that we close the
[1:15:57] public hearing. I'll
[1:15:58] second
[1:15:58] that
[1:15:59] . Let's move a second to
[1:15:59] close the
[1:16:00] public
[1:16:01] hearing on
[1:16:01] the
[1:16:01] surplus
[1:16:04] these vehicles
[1:16:05] . Any
[1:16:05] more discussion
[1:16:07] ? All those
[1:16:08] favor say
[1:16:08] aye
[1:16:09] , aye
[1:16:09] , o
[1:16:10] pose
[1:16:11] motion passes
[1:16:14] . So the next step
[1:16:15] is you will bring
[1:16:16] something
[1:16:17] through um for
[1:16:18] the
[1:16:19] consent to
[1:16:19] sign and move them
[1:16:21] forward, so
[1:16:23] All right, thank you,
[1:16:24] commissioners. Thank you, Jason
[1:16:26] Anything else
[1:16:28] So with that,
[1:16:28] we're going to adjourn. We're
[1:16:28] back
[1:16:30] in session at
[1:16:30] 11:30 for
[1:16:30] our
[1:16:32] public comment with that we
[1:16:33] adjourn. Thank you
[1:16:46] that's
[1:16:46] why all
[1:16:47] the senior centers
[1:16:48] , the
[1:16:49] contracts had to be read
[1:16:51] Redone because we changed them
[1:17:26] It's a little
[1:17:27] after
[1:17:27] 11:30
[1:17:27] morning. I call
[1:17:28] this
[1:17:28] sessionsketch County
[1:17:29] commissions to order
[1:17:29] . It
[1:17:30] lie
[1:17:30] 7th
[1:17:31] , 2026
[1:17:32] . I'll
[1:17:32] read our
[1:17:33] script
[1:17:33] here for the
[1:17:34] public comment.
[1:17:35] Thank you for all
[1:17:35] attending
[1:17:37] the
[1:17:37] commissioner's Public comic
[1:17:38] meeting. We
[1:17:39] discovered
[1:17:39] these
[1:17:41] televised sessions almost every
[1:17:41] week as
[1:17:41] our
[1:17:42] schedule allows to
[1:17:43] provide public
[1:17:43] with
[1:17:44] frequent
[1:17:45] opportunities to share
[1:17:46] feedback
[1:17:46] and
[1:17:47] concerns
[1:17:47] about
[1:17:48] any county
[1:17:48] program
[1:17:49] service
[1:17:50] . Each
[1:17:50] speaker has
[1:17:51] 3 minutes
[1:17:52] to speak
[1:17:53] and you will hear
[1:17:53] time ring
[1:17:55] 2 minutes and a
[1:17:57] 1-minute
[1:17:57] warning and then again at
[1:17:58] minutes
[1:17:59] when your time
[1:18:00] has
[1:18:00] expired, we
[1:18:00] ask you to
[1:18:02] direct
[1:18:03] all comments to the board of
[1:18:04] County commissioner and to keep
[1:18:04] your
[1:18:04] language appropriate
[1:18:05] and
[1:18:05] civil
[1:18:07] . Please understand
[1:18:08] that
[1:18:09] this time is to take
[1:18:09] feedback
[1:18:09] from the public and
[1:18:10] the
[1:18:11] commissioners will not be
[1:18:11] responding to comments at
[1:18:13] this
[1:18:13] time
[1:18:14] , written comments
[1:18:15] follow up inquiries
[1:18:15] can
[1:18:16] submitted to our
[1:18:17] office
[1:18:18] email
[1:18:23] commissioners@co.Skche.Wa.S or
[1:18:24] by mail
[1:18:25] 1800 Continental
[1:18:25] Place, Mount Vernon
[1:18:26] , Washington
[1:18:28] 98273
[1:18:29] . We
[1:18:29] generally appreciate
[1:18:30] the time
[1:18:30] you
[1:18:31] all have
[1:18:31] taken
[1:18:32] attend
[1:18:32] today's meeting
[1:18:33] , and
[1:18:33] we're looking forward to
[1:18:34] hearing
[1:18:35] your comments
[1:18:35] . We will
[1:18:36] first start
[1:18:36] with attendees
[1:18:38] online via Zoom and then moved
[1:18:40] to attendees in
[1:18:40] the room
[1:18:40] . So
[1:18:41] first
[1:18:42] , if there's anybody
[1:18:43] who
[1:18:43] wants
[1:18:44] not talk, let's do
[1:18:45] the
[1:18:45] northern state
[1:18:47] Swift
[1:18:47] Center
[1:18:47] last
[1:18:48] was anybody online that
[1:18:49] would like
[1:18:50] talk about
[1:18:52] subject not
[1:18:52] with Northern state
[1:18:54] Tweety, I
[1:18:55] see you there
[1:18:58] here. Uh
[1:19:00] , thank you
[1:19:01] commissioners. Good morning
[1:19:02] commissioners
[1:19:03] . Larita Humboldt
[1:19:03] aka Tweety
[1:19:05] , Lake Kavanaugh
[1:19:06] Regarding
[1:19:07] North Shore, I
[1:19:07] have
[1:19:08] previously
[1:19:09] reported that after
[1:19:10] many trials
[1:19:10] and tribulations
[1:19:11] the
[1:19:12] garbage cans
[1:19:12] for North
[1:19:13] Shore residents
[1:19:14] are stationed
[1:19:15] at adjoining Side
[1:19:17] Street
[1:19:17] locations at
[1:19:18] each
[1:19:18] end and
[1:19:19] much
[1:19:19] 2 miles
[1:19:20] from
[1:19:21] customer
[1:19:21] homes
[1:19:22] . These locations
[1:19:22] were
[1:19:23] chosen by
[1:19:24] waste
[1:19:24] management
[1:19:25] being in
[1:19:25] an area
[1:19:26] where there
[1:19:27] room
[1:19:27] for the
[1:19:28] waste
[1:19:28] management
[1:19:28] truck to dump
[1:19:29] the cans and
[1:19:29] turn
[1:19:30] around
[1:19:30] . In addition to these
[1:19:31] cans not near
[1:19:32] the
[1:19:32] residents'
[1:19:33] homes it
[1:19:33] affords
[1:19:34] the constant
[1:19:35] opportunity of being
[1:19:36] filled
[1:19:37] someone other than
[1:19:37] those paying
[1:19:38] for
[1:19:39] the service. That
[1:19:40] being
[1:19:40] said
[1:19:41] , a more
[1:19:42] interesting story
[1:19:43] is that
[1:19:43] we've had
[1:19:44] resident
[1:19:46] bear
[1:19:47] since February
[1:19:47] that has
[1:19:48] been
[1:19:48] circulating
[1:19:49] circulating
[1:19:49] circling
[1:19:50] the lake
[1:19:51] looking
[1:19:51] for
[1:19:52] food. Now
[1:19:52] that so
[1:19:52] many
[1:19:53] residents
[1:19:54] have returned for
[1:19:54] the
[1:19:55] season
[1:19:55] , those
[1:19:55] garbage
[1:19:56] cans are
[1:19:56] filled
[1:19:57] with lots
[1:19:58] delicious
[1:19:58] snacks for
[1:19:58] Yogi
[1:19:59] . Imagine the
[1:20:00] surprise of one
[1:20:01] single
[1:20:01] senior
[1:20:02] lady attempting to put
[1:20:03] her
[1:20:03] trash in
[1:20:04] her can
[1:20:05] the
[1:20:05] staged
[1:20:06] area
[1:20:06] and surprised by
[1:20:07] Yogi
[1:20:08] overturning the cans
[1:20:08] and
[1:20:09] enjoying
[1:20:10] his
[1:20:10] lunch
[1:20:11] once again
[1:20:11] just
[1:20:12] another
[1:20:12] safety
[1:20:13] concern
[1:20:13] and
[1:20:13] reason
[1:20:14] for North
[1:20:15] Shore to
[1:20:16] restored so
[1:20:17] that residents
[1:20:17] can
[1:20:17] keep
[1:20:17] their
[1:20:18] garbage
[1:20:18] can at
[1:20:19] their
[1:20:19] own home
[1:20:20] and in
[1:20:20] the
[1:20:22] garage
[1:20:22] opposed
[1:20:23] to providing
[1:20:23] the
[1:20:23] buffet
[1:20:24] for
[1:20:25] yogi. Can
[1:20:25] you
[1:20:26] all consider
[1:20:27] the danger that
[1:20:27] North
[1:20:27] Shore
[1:20:28] residents
[1:20:28] are enduring
[1:20:29] . Is
[1:20:30] just ok because it's our lives
[1:20:31] danger and it's
[1:20:32] not in
[1:20:33] your
[1:20:33] backyard
[1:20:33] , and yes
[1:20:35] , dfw
[1:20:36] called and there is a trap
[1:20:37] , but
[1:20:37] I have no
[1:20:38] knowledge as to
[1:20:39] whether Yogi the Bear
[1:20:39] has
[1:20:40] been
[1:20:40] captured
[1:20:41] yet
[1:20:42] . Please
[1:20:42] restore
[1:20:43] North Shore so that we
[1:20:44] are able
[1:20:45] live
[1:20:46] peaceful and
[1:20:46] normal
[1:20:47] lives. On
[1:20:48] different note
[1:20:48] , if
[1:20:49] you have the
[1:20:49] time
[1:20:50] , I
[1:20:50] cordially
[1:20:51] invite you to
[1:20:51] the
[1:20:52] Lake Kavanagh
[1:20:52] car
[1:20:53] show this
[1:20:53] Saturday
[1:20:54] , the
[1:20:54] 11th
[1:20:55] from 11 to
[1:20:56] 2 at
[1:20:56] the
[1:20:57] community center
[1:20:57] . Thank you
[1:20:58] for
[1:20:58] your time
[1:20:59] . Thank you
[1:21:00] there
[1:21:00] anybody else online you'd
[1:21:01] like
[1:21:02] to comment, not
[1:21:02] dealing
[1:21:04] with
[1:21:04] the Northern state property
[1:21:07] Hearing none
[1:21:08] . Is
[1:21:08] there anybody
[1:21:09] in room? I would like to
[1:21:11] comment on something
[1:21:11] besides
[1:21:11] the Northern
[1:21:13] state
[1:21:13] property
[1:21:15] . Go
[1:21:16] ahead
[1:21:18] . Good
[1:21:18] morning. This is
[1:21:20] Elka McCartney
[1:21:20] , Anacortes. Uh,
[1:21:20] this is
[1:21:22] comment
[1:21:23] number
[1:21:24] 26 to
[1:21:24] stop
[1:21:25] the installation
[1:21:27] battery energy
[1:21:27] storage
[1:21:27] systems.
[1:21:28] Uh, one of
[1:21:28] the
[1:21:29] most
[1:21:29] horrendous
[1:21:30] developments
[1:21:31] this
[1:21:31] country
[1:21:32] since sometime in
[1:21:33] the
[1:21:33] 90s
[1:21:34] , is
[1:21:35] the
[1:21:35] complete lack
[1:21:36] accountability
[1:21:37] and liability
[1:21:38] huge
[1:21:40] mega companies
[1:21:41] that
[1:21:41] manufacture
[1:21:42] harmful poisons
[1:21:43] and
[1:21:43] products
[1:21:45] . These companies
[1:21:45] dole
[1:21:45] out
[1:21:46] billions of
[1:21:46] dollars
[1:21:47] settlements to people who
[1:21:48] suffer
[1:21:49] ill effects and death
[1:21:49] from
[1:21:50] so-called medicines
[1:21:51] that
[1:21:51] injured and
[1:21:52] killed people or
[1:21:53] poisons like
[1:21:54] glyphosate
[1:21:55] , which
[1:21:56] bear
[1:21:56] Monsanto
[1:21:56] had
[1:21:57] recently
[1:21:58] agreed to
[1:21:58] shell
[1:21:59] out
[1:22:00] $11 billion
[1:22:00] worth
[1:22:01] of lawsuits
[1:22:03] , but now
[1:22:03] since
[1:22:03] this
[1:22:04] recent
[1:22:05] Supreme Court
[1:22:05] deemed
[1:22:05] that
[1:22:06] glyphosate can
[1:22:06] used
[1:22:07] with impunity
[1:22:08] and
[1:22:08] ruin
[1:22:09] people's health
[1:22:10] and lives
[1:22:10] without
[1:22:11] getting
[1:22:12] sued
[1:22:12] . All bets
[1:22:13] are off
[1:22:14] hold
[1:22:14] companies
[1:22:15] accountable for all kinds of
[1:22:16] things that do
[1:22:16] us harm
[1:22:18] , for
[1:22:18] instance
[1:22:19] , the
[1:22:20] so-called
[1:22:20] green
[1:22:21] companies that
[1:22:21] install
[1:22:22] these
[1:22:23] horrific, full
[1:22:23] of toxic
[1:22:24] and
[1:22:25] flammable
[1:22:26] chemical chemicals
[1:22:27] best units
[1:22:28] . There
[1:22:30] accountability for the damage
[1:22:30] they
[1:22:31] will
[1:22:32] , not
[1:22:32] even
[1:22:32] after
[1:22:33] severe damage
[1:22:34] is done
[1:22:35] . And let
[1:22:35] me remind
[1:22:36] you
[1:22:36] that
[1:22:36] corporate
[1:22:37] sponsored
[1:22:38] environmental impact
[1:22:39] studies by companies such
[1:22:41] Nextera or Jupiter
[1:22:43] whatever
[1:22:43] are
[1:22:43] highly
[1:22:44] skewed
[1:22:45] and
[1:22:46] manipulated. These
[1:22:46] include
[1:22:48] noise
[1:22:48] studies if
[1:22:48] there
[1:22:49] are any
[1:22:50] and
[1:22:50] recall that
[1:22:51] in one of
[1:22:51] comments it
[1:22:52] was determined
[1:22:53] Nex era
[1:22:54] that we
[1:22:54] do not
[1:22:55] have
[1:22:55] any
[1:22:56] birds
[1:22:56] worry
[1:22:57] about here in
[1:22:57] the
[1:22:59] Skcache County
[1:22:59] . No
[1:23:00] problem
[1:23:00] installing
[1:23:01] something that
[1:23:01] can
[1:23:01] burst
[1:23:02] into
[1:23:02] difficult
[1:23:05] extinguish fires with to x
[1:23:06] smoke that will spread for
[1:23:06] miles and damage
[1:23:07] our
[1:23:08] environment, kill birds
[1:23:09] , salmon
[1:23:10] other wildlife
[1:23:11] that apparently
[1:23:11] we shouldn't
[1:23:12] care about
[1:23:13] . It's
[1:23:13] disgusting
[1:23:14] . Greed
[1:23:15] That's
[1:23:16] the
[1:23:17] word for all
[1:23:19] this
[1:23:19] non-accountability, and it is
[1:23:20] what you need
[1:23:21] to consider as
[1:23:22] you consider
[1:23:22] and
[1:23:24] reconsider the
[1:23:24] installation
[1:23:26] lithium battery
[1:23:26] energy storage
[1:23:27] systems
[1:23:28] and
[1:23:28] data
[1:23:29] centers in
[1:23:29] our
[1:23:29] beautiful county
[1:23:31] We had an earthquake near my
[1:23:31] home
[1:23:32] the other night
[1:23:33] . I felt it
[1:23:33] while in my
[1:23:35] easy chair reading,
[1:23:35] and I
[1:23:35] thought
[1:23:37] myself
[1:23:38] , holy
[1:23:38] cow
[1:23:39] ! Best units
[1:23:40] can go
[1:23:40] into
[1:23:42] geothermal runaway
[1:23:42] fires
[1:23:44] from
[1:23:45] jostling or many
[1:23:45] other
[1:23:46] reasons
[1:23:46] such
[1:23:47] as overheating
[1:23:47] . Please
[1:23:48] take
[1:23:48] this
[1:23:49] into
[1:23:50] consideration
[1:23:50] especially
[1:23:51] the
[1:23:52] non-accountability of
[1:23:53] these
[1:23:53] companies
[1:23:54] . There is
[1:23:55] recourse
[1:23:56] for
[1:23:56] evacuation
[1:23:57] plans in case
[1:23:58] a fire
[1:23:59] . There is
[1:24:00] no recourse
[1:24:00] for
[1:24:01] extinguishing the fire
[1:24:02] Entirely put on
[1:24:03] our local and
[1:24:04] brave
[1:24:05] firefighters don't let
[1:24:05] them get
[1:24:06] away
[1:24:06] with it
[1:24:07] . Thank
[1:24:07] you so
[1:24:08] much. Thank you
[1:24:10] . Anybody
[1:24:11] else
[1:24:11] with non, go ahead
[1:24:16] Exactly
[1:24:18] Good morning. My name
[1:24:20] Kathleen Redman, and
[1:24:22] speaking for
[1:24:23] Ingrid Hinton
[1:24:25] This morning as
[1:24:26] she is from
[1:24:27] Mount Vernon, and
[1:24:28] I'm also from
[1:24:29] Mount Vernon
[1:24:31] . Dear
[1:24:32] commissioners, and this
[1:24:33] from
[1:24:34] Zach
[1:24:34] Small
[1:24:36] Samish Island
[1:24:37] . An
[1:24:38] pound
[1:24:40] residential lithium
[1:24:41] ion battery caught
[1:24:42] fire
[1:24:43] Hayfort
[1:24:45] , California last week
[1:24:47] The incident resulted in
[1:24:47] road
[1:24:48] closures
[1:24:50] shelter in
[1:24:51] place
[1:24:51] order
[1:24:54] . Haxic fumes concerns
[1:24:56] runoff monitoring
[1:24:58] and
[1:24:58] evacuation planning
[1:25:00] . The
[1:25:01] Samish
[1:25:01] Island
[1:25:02] Bess is
[1:25:05] uh, is
[1:25:06] substantially larger
[1:25:07] and
[1:25:09] located approximately
[1:25:11] from my property
[1:25:13] . This incident
[1:25:14] a reminder that
[1:25:15] when
[1:25:16] battery
[1:25:16] failures occur
[1:25:18] , the impacts can
[1:25:19] extend well beyond
[1:25:21] the battery
[1:25:21] itself
[1:25:23] . The
[1:25:23] question isn't
[1:25:23] just
[1:25:24] whether
[1:25:25] something
[1:25:25] is likely
[1:25:26] happen
[1:25:27] . It's
[1:25:27] whether
[1:25:28] the
[1:25:31] potential consequences
[1:25:31] are
[1:25:31] worth the risk
[1:25:34] . And
[1:25:34] these
[1:25:35] are
[1:25:36] Ingrid's questions
[1:25:38] . Um
[1:25:39] do we
[1:25:41] have plans in
[1:25:41] place to where
[1:25:42] people are going
[1:25:44] evacuate
[1:25:46] and what's going to happen with
[1:25:46] road
[1:25:48] closures, etc
[1:25:50] . How can
[1:25:51] the
[1:25:52] commissioners ok this
[1:25:54] ? Are
[1:25:54] the
[1:25:55] commissioners for people
[1:25:58] Skagitt County
[1:25:59] billionaire
[1:26:00] companies. Thank
[1:26:01] you
[1:26:01] . Thank you
[1:26:02] Anybody else
[1:26:03] ? Rebecca
[1:26:12] ? Good
[1:26:13] morning, Rebecca
[1:26:13] Peck
[1:26:14] from Bow
[1:26:15] Skagitt County law
[1:26:17] enforcement
[1:26:17] Training Center
[1:26:18] , aka Cop City
[1:26:19] being
[1:26:20] proposed and claims
[1:26:20] are being
[1:26:21] made. It
[1:26:22] will be good
[1:26:22] for
[1:26:22] our
[1:26:23] county economy
[1:26:24] bringing in
[1:26:25] neighboring
[1:26:26] counties
[1:26:26] officers
[1:26:26] for
[1:26:27] training
[1:26:28] notably
[1:26:29] the Washington
[1:26:29] State
[1:26:29] Justice
[1:26:30] Training Commission
[1:26:31] opened its
[1:26:31] newest
[1:26:32] regional
[1:26:33] law
[1:26:33] enforcement training center
[1:26:34] Northwest
[1:26:35] Academy last year
[1:26:36] Arlington
[1:26:37] . I surfed
[1:26:37] the web to
[1:26:37] see how much our
[1:26:38] local
[1:26:39] police
[1:26:39] departments spend on
[1:26:40] training
[1:26:40] travel. Nearest
[1:26:42] could
[1:26:42] figure
[1:26:42] out
[1:26:44] 2024
[1:26:44] and Cordei drove
[1:26:45] Mount
[1:26:46] Vernon and
[1:26:46] and
[1:26:46] the
[1:26:47] sheriff spent a total
[1:26:50] 377,000 something
[1:26:51] . I also
[1:26:51] surfed the web
[1:26:52] to see how
[1:26:52] much
[1:26:53] a value of
[1:26:53] one acre
[1:26:56] Portiscadget property is the
[1:26:58] newest number I could find was
[1:27:00] from
[1:27:00] 2014
[1:27:00] . 50 acres
[1:27:03] the 2014
[1:27:04] value of
[1:27:07] $65,898 per acre
[1:27:09] equals
[1:27:09] millions
[1:27:10] some change
[1:27:12] $2014 that property
[1:27:13] would be
[1:27:13] off
[1:27:14] the tax base
[1:27:15] , off the
[1:27:15] port
[1:27:16] would not be
[1:27:16] able to
[1:27:18] . Use it
[1:27:18] like it's supposed to
[1:27:20] be used.
[1:27:21] there's actually a need for
[1:27:21] more
[1:27:22] places for police to train
[1:27:23] let
[1:27:24] anybody
[1:27:24] else build
[1:27:25] it. It
[1:27:25] will
[1:27:27] way cheaper to send our
[1:27:27] law
[1:27:28] , law enforcement to
[1:27:29] someone
[1:27:29] else's cop city
[1:27:31] . The need for a
[1:27:32] new 911
[1:27:33] center
[1:27:34] is real, and
[1:27:35] that
[1:27:35] can
[1:27:36] happen without a
[1:27:37] cop
[1:27:37] city
[1:27:38] . If
[1:27:40] cannot afford to
[1:27:41] fully fund the
[1:27:42] public
[1:27:43] defender's office, we
[1:27:43] certainly
[1:27:44] cannot
[1:27:45] afford a
[1:27:45] cop city
[1:27:47] . The
[1:27:47] constitutional right of due
[1:27:48] process is
[1:27:49] to provide equal
[1:27:50] justice to all
[1:27:50] , so that
[1:27:52] impoverished person receives
[1:27:54] quality legal representation
[1:27:55] and full
[1:27:56] due process
[1:27:56] just as
[1:27:57] good as the
[1:27:57] legal work
[1:27:59] millionaire can buy
[1:28:00] . By not
[1:28:01] fully funding
[1:28:01] public defenders,
[1:28:01] we do
[1:28:02] not
[1:28:03] have
[1:28:03] equal justice
[1:28:03] for all
[1:28:05] . The
[1:28:05] privilege in
[1:28:07] this
[1:28:07] room must
[1:28:07] be noted
[1:28:09] . My guess
[1:28:10] that
[1:28:12] if everyone here was
[1:28:12] arrested for
[1:28:13] a crime
[1:28:14] , we
[1:28:14] would
[1:28:15] all
[1:28:15] hire
[1:28:17] private attorney. We
[1:28:17] are the
[1:28:17] lucky
[1:28:18] ones who
[1:28:19] have
[1:28:20] some finances to use
[1:28:21] to buy us
[1:28:21] the
[1:28:22] best
[1:28:22] due process
[1:28:23] we can get
[1:28:24] Many of
[1:28:25] our neighbors are not
[1:28:26] so fortunate
[1:28:30] . The 5th and 6th
[1:28:30] Amendments are about due
[1:28:32] process. 5th
[1:28:32] and 6th
[1:28:33] , right
[1:28:34] thereafter our rights to free
[1:28:35] speech, blah blah blah
[1:28:37] . Help
[1:28:37] our
[1:28:37] community
[1:28:38] , help
[1:28:39] our
[1:28:39] democracy, and fully fund the
[1:28:41] public
[1:28:41] defender's office
[1:28:42] instead of building a cop city
[1:28:44] and
[1:28:45] schedule more time for
[1:28:46] public comments so you don't
[1:28:48] feel pressured. Thank you
[1:28:49] Thank you
[1:28:50] And the question
[1:28:52] , go
[1:28:52] ahead
[1:29:00] . Good morning
[1:29:01] . Heather
[1:29:02] Fuller Leo
[1:29:02] representing
[1:29:03] Ask
[1:29:05] Local 176
[1:29:06] . Our PRESIDENT Was
[1:29:07] going to be here today
[1:29:07] to speak
[1:29:09] but
[1:29:09] unfortunately she is
[1:29:10] not
[1:29:11] able to, so I'm going to read
[1:29:11] her speech
[1:29:13] to you
[1:29:13] . Good
[1:29:13] morning
[1:29:14] commissioners. My
[1:29:15] name
[1:29:15] Wendy
[1:29:16] Morgan, and I have
[1:29:17] the
[1:29:17] privilege
[1:29:18] serving
[1:29:19] serving as
[1:29:20] PRESIDENT Of Ask Me
[1:29:22] Local
[1:29:22] 176,
[1:29:23] representing
[1:29:23] the
[1:29:24] hardworking
[1:29:24] employees of
[1:29:25] Skagitt County
[1:29:27] Public Works
[1:29:27] . Today
[1:29:27] , I'm here
[1:29:29] behalf of the
[1:29:29] men
[1:29:29] and women
[1:29:30] who main
[1:29:30] tain
[1:29:31] our roads
[1:29:31] operate
[1:29:32] heavy
[1:29:33] equipment,
[1:29:33] respond to storms
[1:29:35] and
[1:29:36] emergencies, keep
[1:29:37] our
[1:29:38] infrastructures functioning
[1:29:40] operate our
[1:29:40] transfer
[1:29:40] stations
[1:29:41] and serve
[1:29:42] the citizens of
[1:29:42] this
[1:29:43] county every
[1:29:43] single day
[1:29:44] . For
[1:29:45] the past year and
[1:29:46] a half
[1:29:46] , we
[1:29:47] have continued
[1:29:48] showing up to
[1:29:49] work
[1:29:49] without a
[1:29:51] new
[1:29:51] contract. We
[1:29:52] are continuing
[1:29:53] our
[1:29:54] jobs
[1:29:54] professionally
[1:29:56] , safely
[1:29:56] , and
[1:29:57] with pride
[1:29:58] . We
[1:29:58] responded to
[1:29:59] snow storms
[1:30:00] and
[1:30:00] floods
[1:30:01] maintained
[1:30:02] and repaired
[1:30:02] our
[1:30:03] roads
[1:30:03] , operated
[1:30:03] and
[1:30:04] serviced
[1:30:05] heavy equipment, kept
[1:30:06] our
[1:30:07] transfer
[1:30:08] stations
[1:30:08] running
[1:30:09] assisted thousands
[1:30:10] of customers
[1:30:11] and
[1:30:11] answered every
[1:30:12] call the
[1:30:12] county
[1:30:13] has asked
[1:30:14] us. Day
[1:30:14] after
[1:30:15] day
[1:30:16] have upheld our
[1:30:16] commitment
[1:30:18] Skagitt County
[1:30:19] simply ask
[1:30:20] that the
[1:30:20] county
[1:30:21] uphold the same
[1:30:21] commitment
[1:30:23] . What
[1:30:24] has
[1:30:25] increasingly has
[1:30:25] become
[1:30:27] increasingly frustrating
[1:30:28] It's not just
[1:30:29] the length
[1:30:30] negotiations
[1:30:31] , but
[1:30:31] the feeling
[1:30:32] that
[1:30:32] our employees are
[1:30:33] not
[1:30:34] being
[1:30:34] valued
[1:30:35] equally
[1:30:36] . The
[1:30:36] ferry
[1:30:37] employees reached
[1:30:39] agreement
[1:30:39] that included
[1:30:41] wage
[1:30:42] increase
[1:30:43] in 2025
[1:30:43] . Our
[1:30:44] bargaining
[1:30:45] unit has
[1:30:45] remained
[1:30:47] . While nearly every
[1:30:49] other
[1:30:49] proposal we have brought
[1:30:50] forward has
[1:30:50] been rejected
[1:30:52] . The
[1:30:54] only movement we've seen was on
[1:30:55] boot allowance
[1:30:56] , and
[1:30:57] even
[1:30:57] that
[1:30:57] became
[1:30:58] a reimbursement rather
[1:30:59] than a
[1:30:59] true benefit
[1:31:01] . Our
[1:31:01] members
[1:31:02] are
[1:31:03] asking a
[1:31:03] simple
[1:31:05] question. Why are we being
[1:31:06] treated differently
[1:31:07] ? We
[1:31:08] aren't
[1:31:08] asking for
[1:31:09] special treatment
[1:31:10] We're asking for
[1:31:12] fair treatment
[1:31:12] Every month
[1:31:13] that passes without
[1:31:14] contract
[1:31:15] affects morale
[1:31:16] . We
[1:31:17] begin to
[1:31:17] wonder whether
[1:31:18] our
[1:31:19] dedication matters
[1:31:19] . It
[1:31:20] becomes
[1:31:21] harder to
[1:31:21] recruit
[1:31:22] qualified
[1:31:22] workers
[1:31:23] , which
[1:31:23] leads to
[1:31:24] employee
[1:31:26] burnout and even
[1:31:26] harder to
[1:31:28] retain
[1:31:28] the
[1:31:29] experienced employees who
[1:31:30] keep
[1:31:30] this
[1:31:31] county running safely
[1:31:33] and
[1:31:33] efficiently. No one
[1:31:35] wants
[1:31:35] negotiations to
[1:31:37] become
[1:31:38] confrontational. We want
[1:31:39] partnership
[1:31:39] . We want
[1:31:40] to reach
[1:31:41] agreement
[1:31:41] that respects
[1:31:42] the
[1:31:42] value of
[1:31:43] public
[1:31:44] works employees
[1:31:45] bring
[1:31:45] to Skaggett
[1:31:46] County every
[1:31:46] day
[1:31:47] . Commissioners, we
[1:31:48] are
[1:31:48] asking
[1:31:48] that
[1:31:49] you help
[1:31:50] move
[1:31:50] this
[1:31:51] process forward
[1:31:53] . Show us that
[1:31:53] our work
[1:31:54] valued
[1:31:55] , demonstrate
[1:31:57] that fairness is
[1:31:58] word that it
[1:31:59] is a
[1:32:00] print that is more than a
[1:32:00] word that
[1:32:01] it's
[1:32:01] a principle
[1:32:02] This
[1:32:03] county
[1:32:04] stands behind
[1:32:04] . Our
[1:32:05] members
[1:32:06] have remained
[1:32:07] . You're
[1:32:07] Patient
[1:32:08] for
[1:32:09] months
[1:32:10] . We're
[1:32:10] not asking for
[1:32:11] progress. Thank
[1:32:12] you. Thank you very much
[1:32:15] Anthony, you want to go or is
[1:32:16] there anybody else
[1:32:17] like to
[1:32:18] that doesn't deal with
[1:32:19] think
[1:32:20] Anthony, go ahead
[1:32:27] Anthony
[1:32:27] Romano
[1:32:29] , Anthony Romano, Anthony
[1:32:29] Romano, Anthony Romano, 44681
[1:32:31] Upper Skagget. Um
[1:32:33] I've got
[1:32:34] the
[1:32:35] official documents right
[1:32:36] here of uh
[1:32:38] Schuler and the
[1:32:38] and the
[1:32:39] and
[1:32:40] the
[1:32:42] easement rights
[1:32:42] right here and where uh
[1:32:45] Tim
[1:32:45] Bellfield
[1:32:46] right
[1:32:46] here
[1:32:47] , files for
[1:32:50] uh, development activities
[1:32:51] . In
[1:32:51] 2003
[1:32:54] and I'd like to read you
[1:32:54] something
[1:32:58] . Out
[1:32:59] of the
[1:33:00] court
[1:33:00] papers
[1:33:00] , disturbing
[1:33:03] disturbingly, someone has
[1:33:03] strung
[1:33:04] barbed
[1:33:05] wire across the
[1:33:05] path from Schuler
[1:33:06] Road
[1:33:07] onto
[1:33:09] state-owned property that led
[1:33:10] to another neighbor's home
[1:33:11] Which Anthony
[1:33:12] frequently using
[1:33:12] quad or motorbike
[1:33:14] . Or
[1:33:14] Anthony
[1:33:16] frequently
[1:33:16] using his quad
[1:33:18] motorbike. If
[1:33:18] Anthony
[1:33:19] had
[1:33:19] seen
[1:33:21] not had not seen the barbed
[1:33:21] wire
[1:33:21] before
[1:33:22] he drove down
[1:33:23] the
[1:33:23] path
[1:33:24] full speed
[1:33:25] . He would have
[1:33:25] most likely have
[1:33:26] been killed
[1:33:27] maimed
[1:33:29] . Anthony reported the
[1:33:30] incident to the police
[1:33:32] . But
[1:33:32] there was
[1:33:34] insufficient evidence
[1:33:34] to show who had
[1:33:36] strung the
[1:33:37] barbed wire across the path,
[1:33:37] and I found
[1:33:38] the
[1:33:38] barbed
[1:33:38] wire in
[1:33:39] the neighbor's yard
[1:33:42] . Anthony
[1:33:43] later discovered barbed wire
[1:33:46] matching the barbed wire
[1:33:46] and
[1:33:47] strung across
[1:33:47] the trail on the
[1:33:48] Bellfields property
[1:33:49] . More and
[1:33:50] more, Anthony has begun to fear
[1:33:50] for
[1:33:51] his safety
[1:33:52] . The Bellfields
[1:33:52] have also
[1:33:54] filed
[1:33:54] multiple
[1:33:55] anti-harassment petitions
[1:33:55] against him
[1:33:56] which
[1:33:56] are
[1:33:56] chock
[1:33:57] full
[1:33:57] of fabrications
[1:33:59] . Each,
[1:33:59] each of
[1:34:00] these
[1:34:01] are
[1:34:01] filed
[1:34:02] Anthony must
[1:34:03] spend
[1:34:03] a great
[1:34:03] deal
[1:34:03] of time and
[1:34:04] money
[1:34:05] to defend
[1:34:05] himself
[1:34:07] . Um
[1:34:08] , the
[1:34:08] Bellfields
[1:34:08] have
[1:34:09] engaged in
[1:34:10] callous
[1:34:10] campaign to
[1:34:12] harm
[1:34:12] Anthony's
[1:34:13] reputation and paint him as
[1:34:14] harassing
[1:34:15] and dangerous person.
[1:34:15] Which
[1:34:17] is undeniable
[1:34:17] . Anthony
[1:34:17] does not
[1:34:19] doubt that the
[1:34:19] Bellfields have been trying to
[1:34:20] drive
[1:34:21] him out of the
[1:34:22] neighborhood. The
[1:34:22] neighbor to
[1:34:24] the
[1:34:24] southeast
[1:34:24] of Anthony's
[1:34:26] Deborah Abel
[1:34:26] began to
[1:34:28] assist
[1:34:28] Bellfield's efforts
[1:34:30] . MISS
[1:34:30] Abel
[1:34:30] was married to
[1:34:32] heir
[1:34:33] the
[1:34:35] Johnson's estate, which used to
[1:34:35] own most of the
[1:34:37] Schuler
[1:34:37] Road
[1:34:38] lots before they sold them, but
[1:34:40] but except mine. That's why
[1:34:40] mine is accepted a lot
[1:34:42] . Anyway
[1:34:44] um, that's pretty much the gist
[1:34:46] . And
[1:34:48] , uh, uh, uh, here's
[1:34:49] where, um
[1:34:50] , Chicago Title has
[1:34:51] made a typographical error and
[1:34:51] will
[1:34:53] not change it, and that is
[1:34:53] on, uh, um
[1:34:58] that is
[1:34:59] right
[1:35:03] where
[1:35:04] Miss Winters ends up with
[1:35:05] Aboriginal rights
[1:35:06] and whatnot
[1:35:07] Anyway, I'll, I'll
[1:35:08] I'll I'll
[1:35:09] just try to make this short
[1:35:10] . Um
[1:35:11] uh, and that's
[1:35:11] where Janicky
[1:35:13] comes in and, and
[1:35:13] the
[1:35:13] sheriff's
[1:35:14] department
[1:35:15] harassing me and
[1:35:16] making
[1:35:17] up stories
[1:35:18] and
[1:35:19] fabrications against
[1:35:19] me, and
[1:35:20] I'm a
[1:35:20] very
[1:35:20] nice person, you
[1:35:21] know
[1:35:22] , unless you pissed me off,
[1:35:22] you know
[1:35:23] , and that, you know,
[1:35:23] that's
[1:35:26] anybody has the right
[1:35:26] be mad, but
[1:35:26] I've
[1:35:27] never touched
[1:35:29] harmed anybody. I'm the only
[1:35:29] one that's
[1:35:31] been assaulted. I'm
[1:35:31] the only one that's
[1:35:31] had
[1:35:32] property damage
[1:35:33] . Thank
[1:35:33] , thank
[1:35:34] you very much, Anthony. Thank
[1:35:34] you so
[1:35:35] much
[1:35:36] . Thank you
[1:35:37] . Anybody
[1:35:38] else on
[1:35:38] anything besides the
[1:35:40] Northern state property
[1:35:41] ? No
[1:35:42] , go
[1:35:42] ahead. Thank you
[1:35:44] . All right
[1:35:45] , so
[1:35:45] you have a
[1:35:47] list here? I do, and
[1:35:47] I'm going
[1:35:47] to call out
[1:35:49] the name
[1:35:49] and then I'm going to call the
[1:35:50] person
[1:35:51] after them so they're
[1:35:51] ready to go
[1:35:52] , so we don't spend
[1:35:52] a lot of
[1:35:53] time
[1:35:54] transport
[1:35:54] here
[1:35:55] So first on
[1:35:55] the
[1:35:56] list
[1:35:56] , Joelen
[1:35:57] Kesty
[1:35:58] After that
[1:35:58] , Eric Mobs
[1:36:05] Good
[1:36:06] morning
[1:36:07] , commissioners.
[1:36:07] For the record, my name
[1:36:10] Joelly Kesty and I serve as the
[1:36:11] mayor of
[1:36:11] Cedar
[1:36:11] Woolley
[1:36:12] . I'm
[1:36:12] here today to ask you to
[1:36:14] support a
[1:36:14] proposed
[1:36:14] interlocal
[1:36:15] agreement with
[1:36:16] the City
[1:36:17] Cedar Woolly and
[1:36:17] move forward
[1:36:18] with the
[1:36:18] visions
[1:36:19] Gadget
[1:36:19] County
[1:36:20] established
[1:36:20] decades
[1:36:21] ago and
[1:36:21] its
[1:36:22] comprehensive plan
[1:36:22] in the
[1:36:23] Northern
[1:36:23] State
[1:36:24] Recreational
[1:36:25] master
[1:36:25] plan. For
[1:36:26] more than
[1:36:26] years
[1:36:26] , Northern
[1:36:28] state
[1:36:29] recreational area has
[1:36:29] been
[1:36:30] identified as the
[1:36:31] future home
[1:36:31] for
[1:36:32] athletics
[1:36:32] . This is not
[1:36:33] new
[1:36:34] proposal
[1:36:34] . Your
[1:36:34] own
[1:36:35] comprehensive
[1:36:36] plan recognizes
[1:36:36] that
[1:36:37] there is a
[1:36:37] great demand
[1:36:37] for more
[1:36:38] sports fields, and
[1:36:39] recommends that the county
[1:36:41] supports agencies that are
[1:36:41] making efforts to create
[1:36:43] new
[1:36:43] fields
[1:36:43] . It
[1:36:44] specifically
[1:36:46] identifies Northern
[1:36:46] state
[1:36:47] recreational area
[1:36:47] the
[1:36:48] location for youth
[1:36:48] and
[1:36:49] adult
[1:36:50] ballfield complex. This
[1:36:51] , this
[1:36:52] city has
[1:36:52] strong
[1:36:53] support for
[1:36:54] this effort from the si
[1:36:55] Juli
[1:36:55] School
[1:36:55] District, the
[1:36:56] Upper
[1:36:57] Skagit tribe
[1:36:57] , Cedarly
[1:36:57] Little
[1:36:58] League
[1:36:59] , generous
[1:37:00] private donors
[1:37:00] and
[1:37:00] many
[1:37:01] cedar
[1:37:01] Woolly residents
[1:37:02] We finally
[1:37:03] have
[1:37:03] the one-time
[1:37:04] funding and
[1:37:04] private
[1:37:05] donations
[1:37:05] to make
[1:37:06] this vision a real
[1:37:06] ity
[1:37:07] When
[1:37:07] flooding at
[1:37:08] Riverfront
[1:37:08] Park became an
[1:37:09] increasing
[1:37:10] concern. The first thought was
[1:37:11] to move the baseball
[1:37:12] and
[1:37:13] softball fields to Wendy Hauser
[1:37:13] Park
[1:37:14] . But
[1:37:14] after
[1:37:15] careful
[1:37:15] planning
[1:37:15] , it became clear
[1:37:16] that
[1:37:17] Winnhauser Park could not meet
[1:37:17] the
[1:37:19] long-term needs of
[1:37:19] our
[1:37:20] community
[1:37:20] , keeping Winnie
[1:37:21] Hauser
[1:37:22] premier
[1:37:22] soccer
[1:37:23] complex
[1:37:23] while
[1:37:24] transitioning
[1:37:25] riverfront
[1:37:25] towards
[1:37:26] additional
[1:37:26] soccer use
[1:37:26] is the
[1:37:27] better
[1:37:28] long-term solution
[1:37:29] . Soccer
[1:37:29] fields
[1:37:29] can recover from
[1:37:30] the
[1:37:31] flooding far
[1:37:31] more easily
[1:37:32] while
[1:37:32] baseball
[1:37:33] and softball
[1:37:33] require
[1:37:34] permanent
[1:37:35] infrastructure that
[1:37:35] is costly
[1:37:36] to repair after
[1:37:36] flood
[1:37:37] events. Northern
[1:37:37] State
[1:37:38] Recreational Area
[1:37:39] provides the
[1:37:39] room to
[1:37:39] grow
[1:37:40] and the
[1:37:41] opportunity to build a
[1:37:42] permanent home for our
[1:37:44] youth
[1:37:44] programs exactly as
[1:37:45] the
[1:37:45] county
[1:37:45] envisioned more than
[1:37:46] decades
[1:37:47] ago. I was
[1:37:48] appointed to
[1:37:49] represent the people of Cedar
[1:37:49] Woolley, and that is who I
[1:37:50] here
[1:37:51] to speak
[1:37:51] for
[1:37:51] . While I
[1:37:52] respect the
[1:37:53] others
[1:37:53] have
[1:37:53] opinions. My
[1:37:54] concern is for
[1:37:54] the
[1:37:55] families in
[1:37:56] our community
[1:37:56] who
[1:37:56] have
[1:37:56] waited more
[1:37:57] than 30 years
[1:37:58] for
[1:37:58] this commitment to become
[1:38:00] reality
[1:38:01] . Concerns that
[1:38:01] this
[1:38:01] project
[1:38:02] will
[1:38:03] impact wetlands
[1:38:03] threaten
[1:38:04] the
[1:38:04] American veteran
[1:38:05] not
[1:38:06] reflect this proposal
[1:38:08] The recorded protected
[1:38:08] critical
[1:38:09] area document protects the
[1:38:11] Hansen
[1:38:12] Creek alluvial fan
[1:38:12] and
[1:38:13] wetlands and
[1:38:13] specifically
[1:38:14] allows baseball
[1:38:15] fields
[1:38:15] development inside the berm
[1:38:16] The
[1:38:16] American veteran is
[1:38:17] not
[1:38:18] endangered or
[1:38:19] threatened
[1:38:20] species
[1:38:20] . This
[1:38:21] protects
[1:38:22] this
[1:38:22] project follows
[1:38:23] your
[1:38:23] comprehensive plan. It follows
[1:38:24] your
[1:38:25] master plan
[1:38:25] . It fulfills
[1:38:25] vision
[1:38:26] the county
[1:38:27] has supported
[1:38:27] for decades
[1:38:28] . I respectfully
[1:38:28] ask
[1:38:29] you
[1:38:29] to set
[1:38:30] politics
[1:38:30] aside
[1:38:31] follow through with your
[1:38:31] own
[1:38:32] plans
[1:38:32] , honor
[1:38:33] the commitments
[1:38:34] already made and give the
[1:38:34] children and
[1:38:35] families of
[1:38:35] Cra
[1:38:35] Woolley
[1:38:36] , the permanent home
[1:38:36] for
[1:38:36] baseball
[1:38:37] and softball. They
[1:38:37] have
[1:38:38] waited more
[1:38:38] than 30 years
[1:38:39] to receive. Thank you
[1:38:40] . Erik
[1:38:42] Moves, Jen and Jake
[1:38:43] , Denmark
[1:38:43] Hucker
[1:38:52] . Good morning. Good
[1:38:53] morning
[1:38:53] . Eric Mobs. Um
[1:38:54] I'm
[1:38:56] the Little League board. I
[1:38:56] don't have a speech. I
[1:38:57] just
[1:38:58] want to come up here and speak.
[1:38:59] I got some notes I want to
[1:39:00] over
[1:39:01] . I'm not to
[1:39:01] argue birds
[1:39:03] I'm not going to argue the
[1:39:03] fields. I'm just going to give
[1:39:04] the
[1:39:05] pros to
[1:39:05] why we
[1:39:05] need fields
[1:39:09] me personally, this year is
[1:39:10] my first year on the
[1:39:11] board.
[1:39:11] It's my 3rd
[1:39:12] year doing Little
[1:39:12] League with my girls
[1:39:13] . I
[1:39:14] put
[1:39:15] countless hours
[1:39:16] , volunteer
[1:39:16] hours, cleaning up
[1:39:18] . Flood
[1:39:19] debris
[1:39:19] helping
[1:39:20] the city as
[1:39:20] much
[1:39:21] as I can. The city worked with
[1:39:21] is awesome
[1:39:22] . But
[1:39:23] it was a lot of
[1:39:23] work and I
[1:39:24] had work parties
[1:39:25] out
[1:39:25] there 5 to
[1:39:26] 6 deep, and it
[1:39:27] would
[1:39:27] take us 2 to
[1:39:28] 3 weekends to get
[1:39:28] it ready
[1:39:29] to play ball again
[1:39:30] That amount of effort
[1:39:32] see
[1:39:33] with moving these fields
[1:39:34] somewhere not prone to it
[1:39:34] . It's
[1:39:35] going to make us
[1:39:36] take
[1:39:37] some
[1:39:37] pressure off the city
[1:39:39] because
[1:39:39] we love maintaining
[1:39:40] ball fields
[1:39:41] Jake can contest
[1:39:41] to this. I
[1:39:43] love going out and maintaining
[1:39:43] ball fields
[1:39:45] . Cleaning
[1:39:45] up a
[1:39:46] flood mess every year
[1:39:47] . It's
[1:39:48] going to get a little old
[1:39:52] The
[1:39:53] central location for those
[1:39:54] fields, I think is
[1:39:55] huge
[1:39:55] benefit to
[1:39:56] Cedar Woolley. Right
[1:39:57] now, people drive into
[1:39:57] Riverfront. That's the
[1:39:59] beginning of Cedar
[1:39:59] Wooley. They
[1:39:59] go to
[1:40:00] Jannii
[1:40:01] . That's not
[1:40:01] Cedar
[1:40:02] Woolley quite yet, right
[1:40:03] ? If
[1:40:04] can get them to go through
[1:40:05] Cro
[1:40:05] Woolley
[1:40:06] . That's
[1:40:08] gonna bring
[1:40:08] economic impact to that city
[1:40:10] It's going to make them drive
[1:40:11] down 20
[1:40:13] . And see all the cool
[1:40:13] shops and see
[1:40:14] where they can
[1:40:14] turn off
[1:40:15] . And then they're
[1:40:15] gonna end up on the
[1:40:17] bottom
[1:40:17] the
[1:40:19] Cascade Mountains and
[1:40:19] play
[1:40:20] baseball
[1:40:21] or softball
[1:40:21] . That's
[1:40:22] pretty awesome
[1:40:23] I'm
[1:40:23] really
[1:40:24] excited about this proposal. I
[1:40:24] hope
[1:40:26] you guys really
[1:40:26] consider
[1:40:26] that, that
[1:40:28] , that would, this
[1:40:28] will be a great home
[1:40:30] . And it
[1:40:31] can expand. It can be other
[1:40:31] things
[1:40:33] . We've had questions on
[1:40:33] our Facebook page. What
[1:40:34] else is
[1:40:35] going to happen there? All we
[1:40:36] can say right now is
[1:40:36] it's going
[1:40:37] to be open to the
[1:40:37] public
[1:40:38] Everybody's gonna get
[1:40:39] to use
[1:40:39] this property
[1:40:40] . We
[1:40:41] have
[1:40:42] intention of impacting any
[1:40:42] wildlife
[1:40:44] . If anything, we would
[1:40:45] like to have that
[1:40:46] area too
[1:40:46] where we can go show kids
[1:40:47] the
[1:40:47] wildlife
[1:40:48] . It'd be a
[1:40:49] great
[1:40:49] opportunity for them
[1:40:51] with
[1:40:51] that, I hold back
[1:40:52] . I really
[1:40:53] hope you guys consider this
[1:40:54] Thanks
[1:40:55] , Eric
[1:40:55] . Jake
[1:40:56] Denmark
[1:40:58] , and
[1:40:58] then
[1:40:58] uh Carl Dion
[1:41:06] . Good
[1:41:06] morning
[1:41:07] commissioners
[1:41:08] My name's Jake
[1:41:09] Denmark. Um
[1:41:09] , I'm
[1:41:11] a longtime
[1:41:11] resident of
[1:41:11] Cedar
[1:41:13] Woolley and
[1:41:13] the
[1:41:13] vice PRESIDENT Of the
[1:41:14] Little League
[1:41:15] . I've been with
[1:41:16] the Little League for the last
[1:41:17] years on
[1:41:18] the board
[1:41:19] . So I've
[1:41:20] seen all these floods and all
[1:41:21] the
[1:41:22] damage that comes
[1:41:22] with
[1:41:25] moving
[1:41:26] the
[1:41:26] fields
[1:41:27] up there
[1:41:27] would
[1:41:29] really
[1:41:29] benefit our
[1:41:29] community. In
[1:41:31] the
[1:41:31] last 10 years
[1:41:32] our Little
[1:41:34] League has more
[1:41:34] than
[1:41:35] doubled. We're the largest
[1:41:35] league in
[1:41:36] the
[1:41:36] county by far. We
[1:41:38] have
[1:41:38] over
[1:41:39] 600 kids
[1:41:40] . In the
[1:41:41] Little League
[1:41:42] . Um
[1:41:43] when
[1:41:43] I was a
[1:41:43] kid
[1:41:45] Woolley
[1:41:45] , we
[1:41:45] had fields
[1:41:47] all over
[1:41:48] . Um in the
[1:41:49] last
[1:41:49] 1015
[1:41:50] years, all we've done really
[1:41:52] lose fields
[1:41:53] . Um, for whatever
[1:41:54] reason
[1:41:54] , a roundabout
[1:41:57] , um, park
[1:41:58] we've lost
[1:41:59] , lost fields
[1:42:00] . We
[1:42:01] want to
[1:42:03] continue growing. We
[1:42:03] want to provide a place for the
[1:42:03] kids
[1:42:05] to go play
[1:42:07] . They need this
[1:42:08] They
[1:42:09] need to have a place to go
[1:42:10] play
[1:42:12] . Our kids shouldn't be
[1:42:12] trying to go out
[1:42:14] of town to
[1:42:14] find
[1:42:14] a field
[1:42:16] practice on
[1:42:16] . We
[1:42:16] I mean, we
[1:42:17] have
[1:42:17] the space
[1:42:18] The
[1:42:19] plan is there
[1:42:19] , the money's
[1:42:19] there
[1:42:21] . People are there
[1:42:23] and
[1:42:24] really ask you guys to take
[1:42:24] this
[1:42:25] into
[1:42:26] serious consideration
[1:42:27] and uh put the kids first
[1:42:28] . So
[1:42:28] on that
[1:42:30] , thank you guys very
[1:42:30] much
[1:42:32] . Right. Carl
[1:42:32] the Young
[1:42:34] Brent Shaf Scheffelbein
[1:42:43] . You
[1:42:44] don't have to touch the mics
[1:42:48] The preset because they're
[1:42:48] special mics or something, you
[1:42:49] put your
[1:42:50] feet on the little
[1:42:51] stamps on the floor there
[1:42:52] , and
[1:42:52] that's where you
[1:42:52] stand
[1:42:52] . See
[1:42:53] this is
[1:42:54] how
[1:42:55] our
[1:42:55] professional
[1:42:55] work here
[1:42:56] . So
[1:42:59] ahead
[1:42:59] , girl
[1:43:00] Good morning, Commissioners
[1:43:01] Carl
[1:43:01] Jung
[1:43:02] , City
[1:43:03] Cedarilley
[1:43:04] Council
[1:43:04] . I
[1:43:04] support
[1:43:05] continuing
[1:43:06] the county
[1:43:07] city partnership
[1:43:08] relocating
[1:43:08] Cedar
[1:43:09] Woolies
[1:43:10] flood
[1:43:10] prone
[1:43:11] ball fields to the
[1:43:12] northern
[1:43:12] state
[1:43:13] recreation area
[1:43:14] Skagit
[1:43:15] County
[1:43:16] families
[1:43:16] need
[1:43:17] reliable
[1:43:18] , safe
[1:43:18] , local
[1:43:19] youth
[1:43:20] athletic fields
[1:43:20] . Right now
[1:43:22] Riverfront Park's Ball fields
[1:43:22] sit in a
[1:43:23] flood
[1:43:24] prone location,
[1:43:24] and every flood
[1:43:26] field
[1:43:26] , every
[1:43:27] flood season puts
[1:43:28] those
[1:43:28] fields
[1:43:29] public
[1:43:29] money
[1:43:30] and
[1:43:31] volunteer work
[1:43:31] at risk
[1:43:33] . Currently, too many
[1:43:34] cedar wooly kids
[1:43:35] are traveling
[1:43:35] out of town to practice
[1:43:37] That's
[1:43:38] hard on families. It's hard on
[1:43:40] the coaches, and it's not a
[1:43:40] long term solution
[1:43:41] for
[1:43:42] growing community
[1:43:44] . Relocating
[1:43:44] the ball fields
[1:43:46] Northern
[1:43:46] State
[1:43:47] Recreation
[1:43:48] Area is
[1:43:48] the
[1:43:49] next responsible step
[1:43:51] . This is
[1:43:51] not just a
[1:43:53] city
[1:43:53] recreation
[1:43:54] issue. It is
[1:43:56] regional
[1:43:57] stewardship decision
[1:43:58] . Northern
[1:44:00] state includes
[1:44:00] important
[1:44:00] habitat and
[1:44:01] human
[1:44:02] and
[1:44:02] open
[1:44:02] space
[1:44:03] , and it's
[1:44:04] also
[1:44:05] regional
[1:44:05] recreational area
[1:44:07] . Public land
[1:44:07] can serve more
[1:44:08] than
[1:44:09] one
[1:44:09] public
[1:44:09] purpose when it
[1:44:11] planned
[1:44:11] carefully
[1:44:12] . That
[1:44:13] includes
[1:44:13] kids
[1:44:14] families
[1:44:15] , coaches
[1:44:16] , community
[1:44:16] activity
[1:44:18] , trails
[1:44:19] , disc golfers
[1:44:20] habitat
[1:44:21] , and history
[1:44:23] . The
[1:44:24] county describes Northern State
[1:44:24] as a
[1:44:25] major
[1:44:25] regional
[1:44:27] recreational facility for Scout
[1:44:27] County
[1:44:29] and beyond
[1:44:29] . So
[1:44:29] this
[1:44:30] proposal
[1:44:31] fits
[1:44:31] that purpose
[1:44:32] . It
[1:44:34] also consistent with
[1:44:35] the
[1:44:36] current Skagitt
[1:44:36] County
[1:44:36] Comprehensive Plan
[1:44:38] . The
[1:44:38] plan
[1:44:40] recognizes parks
[1:44:40] , trails
[1:44:42] recreation
[1:44:43] , capital
[1:44:43] facilities,
[1:44:44] public
[1:44:44] health
[1:44:45] , hazard
[1:44:45] mitigation
[1:44:47] , and
[1:44:47] climate
[1:44:48] resilience as
[1:44:49] connected
[1:44:50] responsibilities
[1:44:51] . Moving
[1:44:51] youth
[1:44:52] athletic fields out of
[1:44:54] repeatedly flooded location and
[1:44:54] into a
[1:44:56] more
[1:44:56] durable
[1:44:56] regional
[1:44:57] setting
[1:44:58] is practical
[1:44:59] , long
[1:44:59] range planning
[1:45:01] . Environmental
[1:45:03] stewardship and
[1:45:03] youth
[1:45:03] recreation
[1:45:04] can
[1:45:05] planned
[1:45:06] together. The city's
[1:45:07] public
[1:45:08] works department has done
[1:45:08] the
[1:45:10] work needed to bring
[1:45:10] forward
[1:45:12] responsible proposal
[1:45:13] . Properly
[1:45:14] cited youth
[1:45:14] ball fields do not
[1:45:15] have
[1:45:17] be incompatible
[1:45:18] with
[1:45:19] habitat protection
[1:45:19] . The
[1:45:19] proposal
[1:45:21] is designed to
[1:45:21] avoid
[1:45:22] sensitive areas
[1:45:23] , managed
[1:45:24] drainage and
[1:45:25] storm
[1:45:25] water
[1:45:26] preserve buffers
[1:45:27] and
[1:45:27] limit
[1:45:28] lighting impacts
[1:45:30] and protect
[1:45:30] the
[1:45:30] character
[1:45:31] of northern state
[1:45:34] our
[1:45:34] community's request is
[1:45:35] simple. Please
[1:45:36] continue
[1:45:37] the
[1:45:37] partnership and
[1:45:39] keep
[1:45:39] uh working
[1:45:40] with Cedar Woolley
[1:45:42] responsible interlocal path
[1:45:43] Help move
[1:45:44] youth
[1:45:44] sports out of
[1:45:45] the
[1:45:46] flood cycle and
[1:45:47] into
[1:45:48] long
[1:45:48] term
[1:45:49] regional
[1:45:50] solution
[1:45:50] for kids
[1:45:51] families, and
[1:45:52] the
[1:45:52] broader
[1:45:53] Skagitt County community. Thank
[1:45:54] you for
[1:45:54] your time
[1:45:55] . Thank you.
[1:45:55] Thanks, Carl
[1:45:58] Brent Scheffelbein
[1:45:59] and
[1:45:59] then Sherry Cameron
[1:46:01] . Oh, I
[1:46:04] Good
[1:46:05] morning
[1:46:06] , commissioners.
[1:46:06] I'm here to
[1:46:08] , I
[1:46:08] am here today to
[1:46:09] voice my
[1:46:09] full support
[1:46:10] partnering with the city of
[1:46:11] Sirivoy to construct
[1:46:12] new
[1:46:13] baseball fields
[1:46:13] at Northern
[1:46:14] State
[1:46:15] Rec
[1:46:15] Area. I've
[1:46:15] been a
[1:46:16] coach for
[1:46:17] baseball, football,
[1:46:17] and
[1:46:18] basketball for the better
[1:46:18] part of
[1:46:19] a decade
[1:46:19] . One
[1:46:20] thing
[1:46:21] that constantly comes up as
[1:46:22] problem is
[1:46:22] the need
[1:46:23] for more
[1:46:23] field space
[1:46:24] . I
[1:46:25] have coached
[1:46:26] Little League and coached a Cal
[1:46:27] Ripken team, and finding
[1:46:29] field of practice and
[1:46:29] host
[1:46:29] games is one of
[1:46:30] the
[1:46:31] most
[1:46:31] difficult things that we do
[1:46:33] This year we pra we
[1:46:33] have
[1:46:34] practiced and
[1:46:35] held all of our
[1:46:36] siege wooly mammoth games
[1:46:36] over
[1:46:38] Burlington
[1:46:38] because that's
[1:46:39] where we
[1:46:39] had
[1:46:40] field
[1:46:40] space
[1:46:41] available, and even
[1:46:41] then teams
[1:46:42] would show
[1:46:43] themselves
[1:46:43] needing a place
[1:46:44] to practice
[1:46:45] whether it
[1:46:45] is baseball
[1:46:46] , soccer
[1:46:48] football, the
[1:46:48] need for
[1:46:48] more
[1:46:49] fields
[1:46:50] , not less
[1:46:50] , is
[1:46:51] very
[1:46:51] apparent
[1:46:51] . I
[1:46:53] believe that
[1:46:53] the
[1:46:54] children are
[1:46:54] our
[1:46:55] future, and
[1:46:55] then we should put
[1:46:56] them
[1:46:56] first
[1:46:56] Kids learn
[1:46:57] valuable skills
[1:46:58] through athletics. And
[1:46:58] they
[1:46:59] carry
[1:47:00] that with them for the
[1:47:00] rest of
[1:47:00] their lives
[1:47:02] . According
[1:47:03] to your
[1:47:03] own documents
[1:47:04] , a
[1:47:05] baseball field complex has been
[1:47:05] your park
[1:47:06] plan
[1:47:07] for years
[1:47:07] , and
[1:47:07] you have just been
[1:47:08] waiting for
[1:47:10] a municipality to partner
[1:47:10] with
[1:47:10] to bring it
[1:47:11] to fruition
[1:47:12] . Well,
[1:47:12] now is
[1:47:13] that time. The city
[1:47:14] Sirawoli is willing
[1:47:16] and
[1:47:16] make
[1:47:17] your
[1:47:18] park plan
[1:47:18] come
[1:47:19] into existence. Doing
[1:47:20] will
[1:47:21] enhance the lives
[1:47:21] of thousands
[1:47:22] of kids
[1:47:22] over
[1:47:23] the next
[1:47:24] generations, and that should be
[1:47:24] the
[1:47:25] goal
[1:47:25] . Raise
[1:47:26] and enhance
[1:47:26] the
[1:47:27] lives of
[1:47:28] our
[1:47:29] next generation. I
[1:47:29] ask you today
[1:47:33] taxpayer, I
[1:47:34] would like to see the kids
[1:47:34] put
[1:47:35] first. Thank
[1:47:36] you for your time
[1:47:37] Thanks
[1:47:38] , Brent
[1:47:38] . Sherry Cameron,
[1:47:39] and then
[1:47:40] Laura Larson
[1:47:41] . Uh
[1:47:42] Sherry Cameron
[1:47:42] doesn't want to
[1:47:43] speak
[1:47:44] . So I'm
[1:47:45] Laura Larson
[1:47:45] Laura
[1:47:45] Larson
[1:47:46] , perfect
[1:47:47] . Uh
[1:47:49] , um,
[1:47:49] my biggest concern
[1:47:50] is safety
[1:47:51] . I
[1:47:52] and walk
[1:47:52] my dog
[1:47:53] every
[1:47:54] day
[1:47:56] Northern
[1:47:57] State
[1:47:57] and
[1:47:58] I usually
[1:47:58] park on
[1:47:59] the
[1:48:00] Helmick
[1:48:00] Road
[1:48:01] , and I
[1:48:02] live upriver
[1:48:04] . And it's like
[1:48:04] every
[1:48:05] day
[1:48:06] it's
[1:48:06] dangerous
[1:48:07] turn left
[1:48:08] off
[1:48:09] of Helmick Road
[1:48:11] Onto Highway 20
[1:48:13] biggest
[1:48:15] concerns for
[1:48:15] the
[1:48:15] ball fields
[1:48:17] Is that
[1:48:19] you possibly
[1:48:19] could
[1:48:21] putting
[1:48:21] your families
[1:48:22] danger
[1:48:22] because
[1:48:23] I've
[1:48:23] seen
[1:48:24] several
[1:48:25] deadly accidents on
[1:48:26] Highway 20
[1:48:28] And
[1:48:29] just
[1:48:30] feel that
[1:48:30] I'm not
[1:48:30] against
[1:48:31] the ball
[1:48:32] fields
[1:48:32] . I
[1:48:32] think you really
[1:48:33] need to
[1:48:33] talk
[1:48:33] about
[1:48:34] the
[1:48:35] traffic flow
[1:48:35] . I, I
[1:48:35] mean
[1:48:36] , are
[1:48:37] you gonna
[1:48:37] put
[1:48:39] stoplight out on
[1:48:39] Helmick Road
[1:48:41] Probably not right away
[1:48:42] . I
[1:48:44] worry about our
[1:48:45] children too. I
[1:48:45] raised
[1:48:46] my family
[1:48:46] Cedar
[1:48:47] Woolley
[1:48:48] . And
[1:48:50] just
[1:48:51] have this
[1:48:52] awful
[1:48:53] feeling because I
[1:48:54] have
[1:48:54] seen
[1:48:55] several
[1:48:56] MISS
[1:48:56] Near misses
[1:48:58] Highway 20
[1:48:58] , where people
[1:48:58] are
[1:48:59] passing
[1:49:01] , going fast
[1:49:01] , and it's
[1:49:02] it's
[1:49:03] . Really
[1:49:04] , really
[1:49:06] awful
[1:49:06] thing to have
[1:49:07] to see
[1:49:09] . An
[1:49:09] accident and
[1:49:11] also
[1:49:11] worry about
[1:49:12] the
[1:49:13] chemicals
[1:49:14] used to
[1:49:15] make
[1:49:15] the
[1:49:16] fields
[1:49:16] green
[1:49:17] , they'll leach
[1:49:17] into
[1:49:18] the
[1:49:18] water system
[1:49:20] . And I
[1:49:20] don't know how
[1:49:22] how, you know,
[1:49:23] people are
[1:49:24] going to
[1:49:24] , it's going
[1:49:25] affect
[1:49:26] people or or
[1:49:26] the
[1:49:27] animals
[1:49:28] . And I
[1:49:29] would just
[1:49:29] , I
[1:49:29] love going
[1:49:31] out there
[1:49:31] because
[1:49:32] it's peaceful
[1:49:33] , it's
[1:49:33] quiet
[1:49:34] , it's
[1:49:34] my quiet time
[1:49:35] , it's
[1:49:35] green
[1:49:36] space
[1:49:36] I just
[1:49:37] think you
[1:49:38] need to
[1:49:38] think
[1:49:39] about
[1:49:39] finding
[1:49:41] area where
[1:49:42] there's
[1:49:43] better
[1:49:43] traffic
[1:49:44] flow
[1:49:44] I'm
[1:49:45] not against
[1:49:47] Northern State.
[1:49:47] think you should
[1:49:49] put it on
[1:49:49] the west side
[1:49:50] . Of
[1:49:50] Northern
[1:49:51] State
[1:49:53] um, because
[1:49:54] of you have
[1:49:54] better
[1:49:56] traffic flow. You have
[1:49:56] stoplight, you have
[1:49:58] roundabout on 9
[1:49:59] . And
[1:50:00] thank you
[1:50:01] Thank you, Laura
[1:50:03] Megan Mobbs
[1:50:03] and
[1:50:05] Jill Cathcart
[1:50:05] . Me and
[1:50:05] mom's
[1:50:06] went ahead and she left
[1:50:06] with
[1:50:07] the kiddos. Ok
[1:50:08] . Jill Cathcart
[1:50:09] with
[1:50:09] Troy Hanson
[1:50:13] deck. Yep
[1:50:16] My baseball
[1:50:18] , I'm
[1:50:19] Jill
[1:50:19] Cathcart
[1:50:20] . I've
[1:50:20] lived in
[1:50:21] Cer
[1:50:21] Woolley
[1:50:21] for almost
[1:50:23] years now
[1:50:25] , I
[1:50:25] know there's a lot
[1:50:27] people who
[1:50:27] , who do
[1:50:27] play
[1:50:29] sports
[1:50:30] and my kids don't
[1:50:30] . They
[1:50:30] play
[1:50:31] sports
[1:50:31] for the
[1:50:32] for
[1:50:32] the schools
[1:50:34] um, not softball
[1:50:35] , um, they do
[1:50:36] like
[1:50:37] indoor sports
[1:50:38] . I
[1:50:38] played
[1:50:39] softball when I was a
[1:50:39] kid and
[1:50:41] wasn't lucky enough to have
[1:50:41] like a
[1:50:42] really cool
[1:50:42] brand new
[1:50:43] field. We were
[1:50:43] the
[1:50:44] ones
[1:50:44] trying
[1:50:45] find a
[1:50:45] place to
[1:50:45] play
[1:50:46] , um, go
[1:50:47] other towns
[1:50:48] , traveling
[1:50:48] find
[1:50:48] somewhere
[1:50:50] practice
[1:50:51] . I
[1:50:51] love
[1:50:52] the
[1:50:52] idea
[1:50:53] having
[1:50:55] complex
[1:50:56] where multiple
[1:50:57] teams
[1:50:57] and leagues can use it
[1:50:58] . Um
[1:51:00] it's, it brings a lot of pride
[1:51:01] someone
[1:51:03] remembering how
[1:51:03] being embarrassed at the field
[1:51:04] that
[1:51:05] other away teams had to
[1:51:06] come play at
[1:51:06] . I
[1:51:06] was embarrassed
[1:51:07] a kid
[1:51:08] , and my city that I
[1:51:09] grew up
[1:51:10] in finally
[1:51:10] 20 years ago
[1:51:12] got the
[1:51:12] brand
[1:51:12] new
[1:51:13] sports
[1:51:14] complex and
[1:51:14] it's
[1:51:15] attached
[1:51:17] a veteran's
[1:51:17] memorial. Also,
[1:51:17] they
[1:51:18] changed the
[1:51:19] name
[1:51:21] Veterans Freedom Park, and it's
[1:51:21] got
[1:51:22] big
[1:51:23] Freedom
[1:51:24] Memorial sign
[1:51:24] where you
[1:51:24] could donate
[1:51:25] and
[1:51:25] have
[1:51:26] your veterans' names put on it,
[1:51:27] my grandpa
[1:51:28] , my uncle
[1:51:28] , um, who
[1:51:29] fought in World
[1:51:29] War ii are
[1:51:30] there, and my dad, who's
[1:51:32] veteran
[1:51:32] also
[1:51:33] , and it's just,
[1:51:33] it's a really
[1:51:34] cool sense
[1:51:35] pride. They would
[1:51:36] memorial
[1:51:36] services there, and I
[1:51:37] think
[1:51:37] that's
[1:51:38] something that could
[1:51:39] done here
[1:51:39] , like
[1:51:40] integrate
[1:51:41] Memorial Day
[1:51:42] this park. Um
[1:51:44] Another thing, I
[1:51:44] work at one of
[1:51:44] the small shops
[1:51:46] downtown
[1:51:46] Cedro
[1:51:46] Woolley
[1:51:47] , and we're always
[1:51:48] trying to figure out how to get
[1:51:49] people to come in
[1:51:49] and see
[1:51:50] how
[1:51:51] special our town is
[1:51:52] . Everyone
[1:51:52] always talks
[1:51:52] about it's this
[1:51:53] cute
[1:51:54] little quaint town. I came
[1:51:55] from like
[1:51:55] big
[1:51:56] populated area
[1:51:58] love the
[1:51:58] the hallmark
[1:51:59] field that
[1:51:59] Cedar
[1:52:00] Woolley has
[1:52:01] And this
[1:52:01] is one
[1:52:02] way that can
[1:52:02] bring in
[1:52:03] more
[1:52:03] people
[1:52:04] to help
[1:52:04] support
[1:52:04] the
[1:52:05] small
[1:52:06] businesses
[1:52:07] um, more than just
[1:52:08] the two or
[1:52:08] three big
[1:52:09] events that we have
[1:52:10] year that
[1:52:10] bring in a lot
[1:52:11] people
[1:52:12] . We just had
[1:52:12] the
[1:52:13] logger
[1:52:13] rodeo
[1:52:14] , and that was amazing
[1:52:15] brought on a lot
[1:52:16] of people. But
[1:52:16] the business
[1:52:17] downtown and
[1:52:18] throughout the
[1:52:18] whole
[1:52:19] city
[1:52:19] need
[1:52:20] consistency. We
[1:52:21] need
[1:52:21] more,
[1:52:22] something else
[1:52:23] to bring
[1:52:23] the
[1:52:23] people
[1:52:24] into our
[1:52:24] town to
[1:52:24] eat at
[1:52:25] the
[1:52:26] amazing restaurants
[1:52:26] and
[1:52:26] shop at
[1:52:26] the small
[1:52:27] shops that
[1:52:28] have, and
[1:52:29] I think it
[1:52:29] would
[1:52:30] just
[1:52:30] bring
[1:52:30] a big
[1:52:31] sense
[1:52:33] pride for
[1:52:33] the
[1:52:33] whole town
[1:52:34] . And
[1:52:34] the county
[1:52:36] , thank you. Thank you
[1:52:37] . Troy
[1:52:38] Hansen with
[1:52:38] Monica
[1:52:38] Leibert on
[1:52:38] deck
[1:52:42] . Uh, ok
[1:52:43] , I don't even
[1:52:43] speak. I don't know
[1:52:44] how
[1:52:44] many
[1:52:45] ended up on there so
[1:52:45] ok. Thanks
[1:52:46] Troy
[1:52:47] . Monica
[1:52:48] Liberg with
[1:52:48] Tim
[1:52:49] Mann
[1:52:50] on deck
[1:53:00] . My name's Monica
[1:53:01] Liebert. I live
[1:53:02] Mount Vernon
[1:53:03] and I'd like to
[1:53:04] speak against
[1:53:05] the proposal. I
[1:53:06] think that one
[1:53:07] the concerns that I have is
[1:53:08] that you're going
[1:53:09] to have
[1:53:10] major disruption to
[1:53:11] the
[1:53:11] environment
[1:53:12] . With
[1:53:12] for
[1:53:13] something
[1:53:14] that's basically a
[1:53:16] seasonal
[1:53:16] activity
[1:53:16] , so
[1:53:17] I think that there
[1:53:17] needs
[1:53:21] broader
[1:53:21] distribution of
[1:53:23] the plan
[1:53:23] other
[1:53:24] than
[1:53:24] the 30
[1:53:25] year
[1:53:26] old
[1:53:27] original
[1:53:28] um plan that the
[1:53:29] county had
[1:53:29] which
[1:53:30] is now
[1:53:32] very
[1:53:32] outdated
[1:53:33] and
[1:53:34] um consider
[1:53:34] what
[1:53:35] the impact is
[1:53:35] going to be
[1:53:37] the
[1:53:37] environment
[1:53:38] and
[1:53:39] the restoration
[1:53:40] Hanson Creek
[1:53:40] , which
[1:53:41] runs right
[1:53:41] along
[1:53:42] the Berm, um
[1:53:44] , um, I
[1:53:44] for those reasons
[1:53:45] , I don't
[1:53:45] support
[1:53:46] this effort and I
[1:53:46] think
[1:53:46] it needs
[1:53:49] uh thought more
[1:53:49] carefully
[1:53:50] . Thank you, Monica
[1:53:52] Tim Mann and
[1:53:52] with
[1:53:52] Kathleen
[1:53:53] Redman on deck
[1:53:55] . I spoke
[1:53:57] , I
[1:53:57] spoke
[1:53:57] ok. Oh
[1:53:59] , you did all right
[1:53:59] I'm sorry
[1:54:00] , Kathleen. I
[1:54:00] forgot
[1:54:01] that it's good
[1:54:01] . Uh
[1:54:03] HeatherBuland Lea
[1:54:04] . That was
[1:54:05] great, perfect
[1:54:06] , it's simple
[1:54:07] Darle
[1:54:08] and Snipes will be out
[1:54:09] deck. Thank you. Sorry
[1:54:10] , Tim
[1:54:10] . Uh
[1:54:11] good morning
[1:54:13] , commissioners. Uh
[1:54:13] Tim Mann
[1:54:14] , Mount
[1:54:15] Vernon
[1:54:15] , a
[1:54:15] scheduled
[1:54:16] Audubon's
[1:54:17] conservation chair. I'm
[1:54:17] speaking for our
[1:54:18] group's
[1:54:19] 500
[1:54:20] members. This is the
[1:54:20] weekly
[1:54:20] time
[1:54:21] for
[1:54:21] county
[1:54:22] success stories
[1:54:23] want to
[1:54:24] highlight
[1:54:24] the
[1:54:24] success
[1:54:25] Northern
[1:54:25] State
[1:54:26] Recreation
[1:54:27] Area
[1:54:27] . 24
[1:54:28] years ago
[1:54:28] as a
[1:54:29] National
[1:54:29] Park
[1:54:30] Service
[1:54:31] employee.
[1:54:31] was part of
[1:54:32] the
[1:54:32] large group
[1:54:33] working over
[1:54:33] a long
[1:54:34] weekend to
[1:54:34] come
[1:54:35] up with
[1:54:35] the ideas
[1:54:36] for
[1:54:36] the
[1:54:37] northern
[1:54:37] state
[1:54:39] master plan
[1:54:39] . The
[1:54:40] resulting
[1:54:40] plan has everything
[1:54:41] from
[1:54:41] a visitor
[1:54:42] center
[1:54:43] and
[1:54:44] equestrian facility
[1:54:45] campground and
[1:54:45] a big complex of
[1:54:46] ball fields
[1:54:47] . What we
[1:54:47] didn't
[1:54:48] envision was
[1:54:48] a veterans
[1:54:49] community park
[1:54:49] , the Vern
[1:54:50] Sims
[1:54:50] picnic shelter, the
[1:54:51] terrific
[1:54:52] trails built by
[1:54:52] Jim
[1:54:52] Taylor's
[1:54:53] volunteers
[1:54:53] , the
[1:54:54] elaborate disc
[1:54:55] golf
[1:54:55] course
[1:54:55] . We also
[1:54:56] didn't
[1:54:57] foresee that so many people
[1:54:58] would come to value
[1:54:58] the
[1:54:59] dike
[1:54:59] trail
[1:54:59] around
[1:55:00] Helmick
[1:55:00] Field as
[1:55:01] place
[1:55:01] to simply
[1:55:02] take
[1:55:03] a quiet
[1:55:03] walk in
[1:55:04] natural setting
[1:55:04] . And
[1:55:05] of course we
[1:55:06] didn't foresee
[1:55:06] that
[1:55:06] the
[1:55:07] field, together with
[1:55:07] the
[1:55:08] adjacent
[1:55:08] wetland would
[1:55:09] become the
[1:55:09] best
[1:55:10] habitat over
[1:55:11] wide area for
[1:55:12] the
[1:55:13] reclusive
[1:55:13] declining
[1:55:14] and
[1:55:14] spectacular
[1:55:15] American veteran
[1:55:16] . The county
[1:55:17] lacked money for all
[1:55:17] the
[1:55:18] planned developments. So
[1:55:20] what
[1:55:20] happened instead was
[1:55:22] organic
[1:55:23] evolution whereby people with
[1:55:23] many
[1:55:24] different
[1:55:25] interests
[1:55:25] discovered and came to
[1:55:26] love
[1:55:26] the
[1:55:27] park just
[1:55:27] it is
[1:55:28] with
[1:55:28] those
[1:55:29] few
[1:55:29] carefully
[1:55:30] considered
[1:55:30] developments
[1:55:32] . There are few
[1:55:32] places in
[1:55:34] Skagit County where
[1:55:35] many people can
[1:55:35] simply take
[1:55:36] walk in a
[1:55:37] natural setting close
[1:55:38] home. For
[1:55:38] those of
[1:55:39] us who
[1:55:40] care about birds and
[1:55:40] other
[1:55:40] wildlife
[1:55:41] , their presence is
[1:55:42] big
[1:55:43] bonus
[1:55:43] . We're proud to live
[1:55:44] in a
[1:55:44] county
[1:55:45] that
[1:55:45] values
[1:55:46] wildlife habitat
[1:55:47] and that
[1:55:47] cares
[1:55:47] about
[1:55:48] the
[1:55:48] healthful
[1:55:49] effects
[1:55:50] time
[1:55:50] spent in nature
[1:55:51] . There
[1:55:51] are
[1:55:52] many places in Cedral Wooley
[1:55:53] Ball fields could
[1:55:54] be built.
[1:55:54] They would
[1:55:55] improve
[1:55:56] those long
[1:55:56] vacant
[1:55:58] industrial lots
[1:55:58] . Had
[1:55:59] Northern State
[1:55:59] , Ball fields
[1:56:01] would displace the enjoyment
[1:56:02] people who
[1:56:03] for the
[1:56:03] last
[1:56:04] quarter
[1:56:04] century
[1:56:05] have been
[1:56:05] walking
[1:56:05] around
[1:56:06] Helmick Field
[1:56:06] to simply
[1:56:07] get a
[1:56:07] taste
[1:56:08] nature
[1:56:09] . They
[1:56:09] are
[1:56:10] stakeholders
[1:56:10] in their
[1:56:11] county
[1:56:11] park
[1:56:12] , and
[1:56:12] their
[1:56:13] experience
[1:56:13] deserves to
[1:56:15] respected. Thank
[1:56:15] you
[1:56:15] . Thanks
[1:56:16] , Jim
[1:56:16] . Perfect
[1:56:17] Darlene Snipes, and then
[1:56:18] David
[1:56:19] Bartholomeuss. I don't use
[1:56:21] David? Yeah. Ok Great
[1:56:23] . Darlene
[1:56:24] Snipes
[1:56:25] Nope
[1:56:25] . Nope
[1:56:25] . Ok. It
[1:56:26] looks
[1:56:27] like
[1:56:28] we're winding it down
[1:56:29] . Ron
[1:56:29] Peterson
[1:56:32] . You ok, Ron
[1:56:34] , Keith
[1:56:34] Wiggins
[1:56:36] And
[1:56:36] then
[1:56:37] after
[1:56:37] Keith on
[1:56:37] deck
[1:56:39] , Tonya Wills
[1:56:40] . You don't
[1:56:41] don't ok
[1:56:41] Thank you
[1:56:43] . I'm
[1:56:44] Keith
[1:56:45] Wieters Burlington
[1:56:46] . And this
[1:56:46] impromptu
[1:56:47] I do
[1:56:48] have
[1:56:49] sympathy
[1:56:50] and understand the concerns of
[1:56:51] the people who want the
[1:56:52] ball
[1:56:52] field at
[1:56:53] Northern
[1:56:54] State and
[1:56:55] it's really great for
[1:56:55] kids and
[1:56:56] teaches
[1:56:57] them mostly
[1:56:57] good
[1:56:57] sportsmanship. Every once in a
[1:56:58] while you hear about
[1:56:58] the
[1:56:59] parents fighting in the stands
[1:57:00] but
[1:57:01] that doesn't happen too
[1:57:02] often, does it? Probably
[1:57:02] doesn't ever
[1:57:03] happen here, but I
[1:57:04] have concern
[1:57:06] , um, I do
[1:57:06] agree
[1:57:07] with the
[1:57:08] , uh, it
[1:57:08] probably will
[1:57:08] impact
[1:57:09] a bidders
[1:57:10] , and that's
[1:57:11] problem
[1:57:12] . I know they're
[1:57:12] not
[1:57:13] endangered
[1:57:14] , but everything,
[1:57:14] almost
[1:57:15] all birds
[1:57:16] are
[1:57:16] diminishing
[1:57:16] . You
[1:57:17] know,
[1:57:17] everybody says, well, they can
[1:57:18] go someplace else
[1:57:19] , but usually
[1:57:19] there
[1:57:20] someplace
[1:57:20] elses
[1:57:21] are
[1:57:21] disappearing
[1:57:22] also. So like
[1:57:22] having our
[1:57:23] house burned
[1:57:23] down
[1:57:23] and
[1:57:24] no insurance
[1:57:24] and no
[1:57:25] support
[1:57:25] group, where
[1:57:26] do you go
[1:57:26] ? They
[1:57:26] just
[1:57:27] don't make
[1:57:27] it anymore
[1:57:28] . But
[1:57:29] besides that, I
[1:57:30] have a
[1:57:30] concern
[1:57:31] about
[1:57:32] um always
[1:57:33] support
[1:57:33] partnerships, county and the
[1:57:35] cities
[1:57:35] and everybody else
[1:57:36] . I
[1:57:36] always
[1:57:36] worry
[1:57:37] how
[1:57:37] those
[1:57:38] relationships go. I
[1:57:39] don't
[1:57:39] want
[1:57:40] to see
[1:57:40] more burden
[1:57:41] being
[1:57:42] shifted off to
[1:57:42] the
[1:57:43] county
[1:57:44] probably MAY not
[1:57:44] happen early
[1:57:45] , but
[1:57:46] later
[1:57:46] on the
[1:57:46] county has
[1:57:47] to spend more and
[1:57:47] more money on
[1:57:48] it, more
[1:57:49] and more time
[1:57:50] , and
[1:57:50] think
[1:57:51] the parts department, the
[1:57:52] county
[1:57:53] park departments
[1:57:53] are
[1:57:54] already
[1:57:55] pretty
[1:57:56] well burdened,
[1:57:56] and I think they
[1:57:57] have
[1:57:57] more
[1:57:58] important places that
[1:57:58] they want
[1:57:59] spend time
[1:58:00] Big Rock
[1:58:00] , for
[1:58:01] instance
[1:58:02] , um, so I
[1:58:03] wouldn't
[1:58:03] have
[1:58:03] , wouldn't
[1:58:04] want
[1:58:05] that
[1:58:05] responsibility to
[1:58:07] shifted
[1:58:07] over
[1:58:08] . I
[1:58:08] don't
[1:58:08] know
[1:58:09] personally
[1:58:09] where other
[1:58:09] opportunities are,
[1:58:10] but I've been told there are
[1:58:10] some
[1:58:11] other
[1:58:11] opportunities, maybe
[1:58:12] not all in
[1:58:12] one place
[1:58:13] , maybe
[1:58:13] have to have
[1:58:13] a belt
[1:58:14] , um, ball
[1:58:14] field
[1:58:15] here in ball field there
[1:58:16] Some
[1:58:17] ways that
[1:58:17] might
[1:58:18] be better
[1:58:20] There's one of
[1:58:21] the
[1:58:22] important
[1:58:23] and Tim just brought
[1:58:23] something
[1:58:24] too that
[1:58:24] I think
[1:58:27] really important just like
[1:58:28] nesting habitat for
[1:58:29] birds that
[1:58:30] if they're removed
[1:58:30] , they're
[1:58:31] gone
[1:58:31] . They
[1:58:31] are
[1:58:32] not
[1:58:32] many
[1:58:33] quiet
[1:58:34] places that people go out and
[1:58:35] take
[1:58:35] a walk
[1:58:36] , and
[1:58:36] that's
[1:58:37] really
[1:58:39] important and
[1:58:40] as mentioned
[1:58:42] lots of people who are out
[1:58:42] there. I have a friend who used
[1:58:43] to treat
[1:58:46] , uh, um, track
[1:58:48] his schoolgirls, they go
[1:58:49] there,
[1:58:50] the, what you
[1:58:50] call it
[1:58:52] , frisbee
[1:58:52] golf
[1:58:53] , horse riding
[1:58:53] , our
[1:58:54] neighborhood, we just talked to
[1:58:54] our neighbor about this
[1:58:55] just
[1:58:56] yesterday and she said
[1:58:56] , that's
[1:58:57] so nice. You out
[1:58:57] there's no
[1:58:57] crowds
[1:58:58] . It's
[1:58:59] quiet. There's
[1:58:59] not
[1:58:59] many
[1:59:00] places
[1:59:00] like that
[1:59:01] , and
[1:59:02] think
[1:59:03] that's probably
[1:59:05] biggest
[1:59:05] argument is
[1:59:06] you just
[1:59:06] take
[1:59:07] that away
[1:59:07] . There is
[1:59:09] other place just
[1:59:09] like you, like
[1:59:09] I say
[1:59:10] , you did
[1:59:10] take
[1:59:11] a nesting
[1:59:11] area away
[1:59:12] There isn't another
[1:59:13] place to
[1:59:13] go, and
[1:59:13] that's
[1:59:14] disappearing rapidly. So
[1:59:14] I'd
[1:59:15] I'd really like
[1:59:17] see
[1:59:17] encourage trying
[1:59:18] to find
[1:59:19] alternative
[1:59:19] to it
[1:59:20] . It
[1:59:20] just
[1:59:21] would
[1:59:21] change the
[1:59:21] whole tenure
[1:59:23] that area
[1:59:23] . Thank you
[1:59:25] . All
[1:59:26] right. And finally
[1:59:27] , before we
[1:59:28] go back to Online
[1:59:28] , uh, Keith
[1:59:29] Wiggins
[1:59:30] . He
[1:59:31] you
[1:59:32] , oh, I was
[1:59:32] how
[1:59:33] you, I thought you were Dale
[1:59:35] Ron
[1:59:36] . Ok. Then
[1:59:37] , we are done with
[1:59:37] this. We can move
[1:59:38] back to
[1:59:39] , uh,
[1:59:40] Tessa Wheson in charge
[1:59:41] . So
[1:59:41] online, is there anybody I'd
[1:59:42] like to
[1:59:42] comment
[1:59:43] on the
[1:59:44] baseball
[1:59:45] proposal
[1:59:46] ? Go ahead
[1:59:50] that me
[1:59:50] Yep
[1:59:52] All right, commissioners,
[1:59:53] uh, thank you for
[1:59:53] the
[1:59:53] opportunity
[1:59:54] to speak
[1:59:54] today. Uh,
[1:59:55] my name is
[1:59:56] Nathan Salsina
[1:59:56] . I've
[1:59:57] worked for the city
[1:59:58] Cedarulley for
[1:59:58] the
[1:59:59] past
[2:00:00] years and
[2:00:00] have served
[2:00:01] parks
[2:00:02] manager for the
[2:00:02] past
[2:00:02] 13 years
[2:00:04] I also served on the
[2:00:04] county's
[2:00:06] parks advisory board
[2:00:06] from
[2:00:06] 2004
[2:00:08] 2008
[2:00:09] . I've submitted my
[2:00:09] formal comments
[2:00:10] by email
[2:00:10] for
[2:00:11] inclusion in your
[2:00:11] public record
[2:00:12] but I'd
[2:00:13] like
[2:00:14] highlight just
[2:00:15] few
[2:00:15] important points
[2:00:17] . Uh
[2:00:17] , the
[2:00:18] current Skagit County Parks
[2:00:19] and
[2:00:20] Recreation Comprehensive Plan
[2:00:21] was adopted in APRIL
[2:00:23] of 2022
[2:00:24] And although only a few years
[2:00:24] have passed, it remains
[2:00:25] the
[2:00:26] county's
[2:00:26] guiding
[2:00:26] policy
[2:00:27] document for parks
[2:00:28] and
[2:00:28] recreation planning
[2:00:30] Comprehensive plans
[2:00:30] are
[2:00:31] intended to guide the
[2:00:31] decisions
[2:00:32] we make as
[2:00:33] public officials
[2:00:33] And
[2:00:33] I believe
[2:00:34] it's important
[2:00:34] that
[2:00:35] our
[2:00:35] actions
[2:00:35] remain
[2:00:36] consistent with the policies
[2:00:36] that we've
[2:00:37] already adopted
[2:00:38] . I'd
[2:00:38] like
[2:00:39] to briefly reference
[2:00:40] several pages from
[2:00:40] the plan
[2:00:42] . On
[2:00:43] pages 3-11, the
[2:00:43] plan states,
[2:00:43] and
[2:00:45] I quote
[2:00:45] , in
[2:00:45] 2001
[2:00:46] , a master
[2:00:46] plan was
[2:00:47] created
[2:00:47] for long
[2:00:47] range
[2:00:48] goals
[2:00:48] , including
[2:00:49] trails
[2:00:49] , ball
[2:00:49] fields
[2:00:50] , campgrounds
[2:00:51] , and
[2:00:51] equestrian center
[2:00:52] Environmental
[2:00:53] education
[2:00:53] interpretive sites, and
[2:00:55] restored alluvial fan
[2:00:56] . On
[2:00:57] page
[2:00:58] 5-9 under
[2:00:58] athletic facility
[2:00:59] goals
[2:01:00] . The plan states that the
[2:01:00] county should
[2:01:02] pursue
[2:01:03] partnerships with local
[2:01:03] cities
[2:01:04] school
[2:01:04] districts
[2:01:05] , special
[2:01:06] service districts, and
[2:01:07] qualified nonprofit
[2:01:08] organizations
[2:01:09] to provide
[2:01:09] youth
[2:01:09] and
[2:01:10] athletic
[2:01:11] , uh, youth and
[2:01:11] adult
[2:01:12] athletic facilities
[2:01:13] . On
[2:01:14] page 9-12, the
[2:01:14] plan
[2:01:15] recognizes
[2:01:16] that reduced county
[2:01:16] staff will
[2:01:17] not allow
[2:01:18] for the
[2:01:18] maintenance
[2:01:19] of additional ball fields
[2:01:20] without a
[2:01:20] third
[2:01:21] party agreement
[2:01:22] , this
[2:01:22] is precisely
[2:01:23] the type
[2:01:24] partnership agreement
[2:01:25] that
[2:01:25] we're currently discussing
[2:01:27] . On
[2:01:27] page
[2:01:27] 10-9
[2:01:29] under
[2:01:29] park
[2:01:29] Development, the
[2:01:30] document
[2:01:30] identifies
[2:01:31] trail systems and
[2:01:32] baseball
[2:01:34] slash softball
[2:01:34] complex
[2:01:34] among
[2:01:36] the
[2:01:37] recommended
[2:01:37] capital
[2:01:38] facilities
[2:01:38] for
[2:01:39] northern state
[2:01:39] wreck area
[2:01:40] . On
[2:01:41] page 10-17, the
[2:01:42] Klan recommends
[2:01:42] that
[2:01:42] the
[2:01:43] county
[2:01:43] should
[2:01:43] continue
[2:01:44] support
[2:01:45] agencies that are making
[2:01:46] efforts to
[2:01:46] create new
[2:01:47] ball
[2:01:48] fields
[2:01:48] . And finally
[2:01:48] , on
[2:01:49] page
[2:01:50] 10-18, the
[2:01:50] plan
[2:01:51] specifically
[2:01:52] identifies northern state
[2:01:52] recreation area. Master
[2:01:53] plan
[2:01:54] including
[2:01:55] land dedicated
[2:01:55] for
[2:01:56] youth
[2:01:56] and
[2:01:57] adult
[2:01:58] sports fields
[2:01:58] The plan
[2:01:59] and
[2:01:59] Vision
[2:01:59] Park
[2:02:00] envisions
[2:02:00] parking
[2:02:01] , restrooms
[2:02:02] concessions
[2:02:03] , maintenance
[2:02:03] facilities
[2:02:04] , picnic
[2:02:04] areas
[2:02:05] , 5
[2:02:06] ball fields
[2:02:06] , 4
[2:02:06] youth
[2:02:07] ball
[2:02:07] fields
[2:02:08] , 1
[2:02:10] ,, and
[2:02:10] one adult
[2:02:10] baseball
[2:02:11] field
[2:02:11] and the
[2:02:12] supporting infrastructure
[2:02:13] Commissioners, these are
[2:02:13] not my
[2:02:14] words. These are
[2:02:14] the
[2:02:15] county's
[2:02:15] own
[2:02:16] adopted policies and vision
[2:02:17] for the future
[2:02:18] . They
[2:02:18] were
[2:02:19] adopted just a
[2:02:19] few years ago
[2:02:20] and remained
[2:02:20] the most
[2:02:21] current
[2:02:22] comprehensive plan governing
[2:02:22] parks
[2:02:24] and recreation policy in
[2:02:25] Sedge
[2:02:25] County. 6
[2:02:26] the nine
[2:02:26] parks and
[2:02:28] recreation advisory
[2:02:29] Board members that approved
[2:02:29] this plan are
[2:02:30] still
[2:02:31] serving
[2:02:31] including Board
[2:02:32] number 10 man
[2:02:34] respectfully ask
[2:02:35] that
[2:02:35] you
[2:02:35] support
[2:02:36] the
[2:02:36] county's
[2:02:37] own
[2:02:37] adopted plan
[2:02:38] . Honor
[2:02:39] the
[2:02:39] commitments it makes to
[2:02:40] our
[2:02:41] community and work
[2:02:41] with
[2:02:42] us to
[2:02:42] make
[2:02:43] this
[2:02:44] long-standing vision
[2:02:44] a reality
[2:02:45] . Thank you
[2:02:45] for your
[2:02:45] time
[2:02:47] Thank you
[2:02:48] there
[2:02:50] anybody
[2:02:50] else online, Paul
[2:02:55] ? Yes, thank
[2:02:55] you. Um
[2:02:57] , I'm
[2:02:57] member
[2:02:59] Cedar
[2:02:59] Woolley
[2:03:00] City Council, and when
[2:03:01] this was
[2:03:02] discussed at the
[2:03:02] council
[2:03:03] , I voted
[2:03:04] against it
[2:03:05] and
[2:03:05] the
[2:03:06] reason is
[2:03:06] , is
[2:03:06] that
[2:03:07] there's a
[2:03:08] better alternative
[2:03:10] Winniehauser
[2:03:11] Parkub the
[2:03:11] city
[2:03:12] public
[2:03:13] works several
[2:03:13] months
[2:03:13] ago
[2:03:14] after
[2:03:14] the flooding
[2:03:16] Riverfront
[2:03:16] showed us
[2:03:17] diagram
[2:03:18] of 4
[2:03:18] ball
[2:03:19] fields
[2:03:19] there
[2:03:20] , and
[2:03:22] asked during
[2:03:22] the
[2:03:23] meeting
[2:03:23] why
[2:03:24] that
[2:03:25] proposal was
[2:03:25] being
[2:03:26] scrapped in
[2:03:28] and
[2:03:28] , and use
[2:03:28] and
[2:03:29] the northern state
[2:03:29] was
[2:03:30] instead
[2:03:30] I'm a
[2:03:31] big proponent
[2:03:31] you fall
[2:03:32] fields. I
[2:03:33] was literally
[2:03:34] soccer
[2:03:34] and
[2:03:35] basketball coach and
[2:03:36] Cedar
[2:03:36] only
[2:03:36] for over
[2:03:37] 12 years
[2:03:38] , all
[2:03:38] with
[2:03:38] kids
[2:03:39] in the
[2:03:39] , in
[2:03:40] town, and
[2:03:40] I think
[2:03:41] the kids would
[2:03:43] better
[2:03:44] served by
[2:03:44] going
[2:03:45] to a
[2:03:45] ball field
[2:03:46] at Winny
[2:03:46] house where
[2:03:47] they can
[2:03:47] ride
[2:03:48] their
[2:03:48] bikes
[2:03:49] There's some
[2:03:50] kids that
[2:03:50] don't
[2:03:51] have transportation
[2:03:52] . I
[2:03:52] , when I
[2:03:53] was
[2:03:54] a basketball coach
[2:03:54] , I used
[2:03:55] to give
[2:03:55] kids rides
[2:03:56] cause
[2:03:56] their
[2:03:57] parents couldn't get them
[2:03:57] places. And I
[2:03:58] , I
[2:03:58] know
[2:03:58] our
[2:03:59] coaches still
[2:03:59] do that
[2:03:59] , but
[2:04:00] really think that
[2:04:00] the
[2:04:01] Winniehauser site is in town
[2:04:02] It'll be
[2:04:03] safer
[2:04:04] . Our
[2:04:04] public
[2:04:05] works
[2:04:05] department
[2:04:05] has
[2:04:06] already
[2:04:07] proposed
[2:04:07] for
[2:04:08] ball
[2:04:08] fields there
[2:04:09] I don't
[2:04:09] see the
[2:04:09] point
[2:04:10] of going
[2:04:11] leaving
[2:04:12] the city to
[2:04:12] go up
[2:04:13] into
[2:04:13] the county off
[2:04:15] highway 20
[2:04:15] . It
[2:04:16] just doesn't
[2:04:16] seem
[2:04:16] workable to
[2:04:17] , and I'm
[2:04:18] not
[2:04:19] sure why
[2:04:20] that
[2:04:20] original
[2:04:21] proposal
[2:04:21] was rejected
[2:04:22] Thank
[2:04:22] you
[2:04:23] very much
[2:04:23] . Thank you
[2:04:25] Is there anybody
[2:04:25] else online
[2:04:26] like to comment
[2:04:29] ? Anybody else
[2:04:29] online
[2:04:33] Anybody else in the room
[2:04:34] that didn't get to comment
[2:04:37] Yeah, go ahead
[2:04:47] Jessica
[2:04:47] Fitzpatrick
[2:04:48] , uh, uh, I live in
[2:04:50] Mount Vernon. Um
[2:04:50] , I've
[2:04:51] grown to
[2:04:52] I've become
[2:04:53] auto Audubon
[2:04:54] member since I moved
[2:04:55] Washington. Uh, I
[2:04:56] moved
[2:04:56] Washington
[2:04:57] because
[2:04:59] Washington
[2:04:59] values the
[2:05:00] environment, and
[2:05:01] don't want
[2:05:01] see
[2:05:02] my children
[2:05:02] grow and
[2:05:03] my grandchildren
[2:05:03] grow
[2:05:03] into
[2:05:04] a world
[2:05:04] where they
[2:05:05] can't
[2:05:05] breathe. Um
[2:05:06] also am
[2:05:08] healthcare worker, and one of
[2:05:08] the
[2:05:09] things that I
[2:05:10] consistently
[2:05:10] recommend
[2:05:12] patients do is to
[2:05:13] get
[2:05:13] outside
[2:05:14] , uh, the
[2:05:14] , the
[2:05:15] data
[2:05:15] for
[2:05:16] people
[2:05:17] being outside
[2:05:17] and
[2:05:17] doing
[2:05:18] things
[2:05:18] consistently
[2:05:19] outside
[2:05:19] has
[2:05:20] shown cardiac
[2:05:20] brain
[2:05:21] , mental
[2:05:22] health benefits
[2:05:23] and being able
[2:05:23] to provide
[2:05:24] place
[2:05:25] that
[2:05:27] handicap
[2:05:27] accessible
[2:05:29] significant
[2:05:29] . Um
[2:05:30] Northern
[2:05:30] State
[2:05:31] offers that
[2:05:32] , and
[2:05:32] the peace
[2:05:33] and
[2:05:34] the quiet
[2:05:35] , um,
[2:05:35] the number
[2:05:36] quiet places in
[2:05:37] the
[2:05:37] world is dras
[2:05:38] ically
[2:05:39] reducing. Um, you can listen
[2:05:40] the Wild
[2:05:40] podcast with
[2:05:40] Chris
[2:05:41] Morgan. He
[2:05:41] outlines
[2:05:42] this
[2:05:42] perfectly once again
[2:05:42] , a
[2:05:43] conservationist out
[2:05:45] Bellingham. All
[2:05:45] of my
[2:05:46] children
[2:05:46] played sports. They
[2:05:47] all
[2:05:47] played
[2:05:47] ball, and
[2:05:48] I love
[2:05:49] . I loved
[2:05:49] that they
[2:05:50] had
[2:05:50] that experience
[2:05:51] and it provided
[2:05:52] them
[2:05:52] with
[2:05:52] critical
[2:05:53] tools to help
[2:05:53] them
[2:05:53] all
[2:05:54] throughout life
[2:05:55] . But
[2:05:55] I would
[2:05:56] never have
[2:05:57] encouraged them to
[2:05:57] do that at
[2:05:57] the cost
[2:05:59] the
[2:06:00] preservation of
[2:06:00] something wild
[2:06:01] and beautiful
[2:06:02] . I
[2:06:02] , uh, I
[2:06:03] hope
[2:06:04] that there is
[2:06:04] another option.
[2:06:04] Um, I
[2:06:06] would love
[2:06:06] to see
[2:06:07] both
[2:06:08] the wildlife gained from
[2:06:09] this,
[2:06:09] as well as
[2:06:10] the children
[2:06:11] . Thank
[2:06:11] you
[2:06:13] Anybody else in the room
[2:06:15] comment
[2:06:17] ? It
[2:06:22] Troy
[2:06:23] Hansen
[2:06:24] Cedroley
[2:06:24] , um
[2:06:26] , talking
[2:06:27] about
[2:06:27] wild and scenic, and I
[2:06:28] , I
[2:06:29] totally agree with it
[2:06:31] . For 100
[2:06:31] years that was
[2:06:32] Northern
[2:06:33] state's
[2:06:33] cow fields
[2:06:34] . And
[2:06:35] it was
[2:06:35] Northern
[2:06:36] states Gardens, and
[2:06:37] states
[2:06:38] orchards. We ripped all
[2:06:38] those
[2:06:39] out to make
[2:06:40] alluvial
[2:06:40] fan
[2:06:40] wetlands
[2:06:42] I think
[2:06:42] it's great
[2:06:42] . We
[2:06:43] were told I actually work for
[2:06:44] the county when we
[2:06:44] were that
[2:06:45] project was going on
[2:06:45] . I just
[2:06:46] got out
[2:06:47] of college
[2:06:47] . We
[2:06:47] were
[2:06:48] told that that was
[2:06:49] going
[2:06:50] help with
[2:06:50] flood
[2:06:51] control and
[2:06:52] salmon
[2:06:52] production. Kind of
[2:06:53] wondering where we are on that
[2:06:56] Snooker down. We still
[2:06:56] have
[2:06:56] flooding
[2:06:58] . Um
[2:06:58] , I
[2:06:58] ran cows up
[2:06:59] there
[2:07:01] , beef cows, when I was
[2:07:01] 8th
[2:07:02] grade, we
[2:07:02] hate
[2:07:03] those
[2:07:03] fields
[2:07:04] , to say that
[2:07:05] is a
[2:07:05] natural
[2:07:06] pristine wetland what
[2:07:06] I've been
[2:07:07] hearing in
[2:07:07] the public
[2:07:07] . It's not
[2:07:08] true. It was finished
[2:07:10] 2008
[2:07:12] 4 earthmother tractors are out
[2:07:12] there scraping for
[2:07:13] 2 years
[2:07:14] straight to
[2:07:14] make that
[2:07:14] . That
[2:07:15] doesn't take
[2:07:16] away
[2:07:16] what has
[2:07:16] come
[2:07:17] out there
[2:07:18] , but
[2:07:18] also
[2:07:18] don't see
[2:07:19] anything in
[2:07:20] these plans where
[2:07:21] says baseball fields are
[2:07:21] going
[2:07:22] into
[2:07:23] critical areas
[2:07:23] Louisville
[2:07:23] fan wetland
[2:07:25] . Um
[2:07:26] , to
[2:07:27] take
[2:07:28] another step
[2:07:29] , the
[2:07:30] Winniehauser fields, I feel
[2:07:31] aren't
[2:07:31] big enough. Also
[2:07:32] , you
[2:07:32] have
[2:07:32] a railroad
[2:07:33] track right
[2:07:33] there
[2:07:34] Highway 20
[2:07:34] . So
[2:07:35] kids
[2:07:35] riding
[2:07:35] their bikes
[2:07:36] Winnie
[2:07:37] Hauser
[2:07:37] , crossing
[2:07:38] a railroad
[2:07:38] track, Highway 20
[2:07:39] , if they come
[2:07:39] in from the other way
[2:07:40] , roads,
[2:07:40] road, they
[2:07:40] have to
[2:07:41] cross
[2:07:41] Highway 9
[2:07:42] at a roundabout
[2:07:44] . Both
[2:07:44] are heavy traffic areas
[2:07:45] I'm
[2:07:45] also a firefighter in
[2:07:46] Cedar
[2:07:46] Wooley
[2:07:47] . I've
[2:07:48] responded to
[2:07:48] calls
[2:07:49] Highway 20 and
[2:07:49] from the
[2:07:50] Northern state
[2:07:50] Helme Road
[2:07:52] they've been fewer and
[2:07:52] far
[2:07:53] between, but I can tell you
[2:07:54] the
[2:07:54] last
[2:07:55] two accidents I've
[2:07:55] been
[2:07:56] out there
[2:07:56] . Cars have
[2:07:56] been
[2:07:57] floating in
[2:07:57] the wetland
[2:07:58] People
[2:07:59] ran off the road
[2:07:59] and ran
[2:07:59] into
[2:08:00] the pond. We
[2:08:01] fished one person
[2:08:01] out last winter
[2:08:03] . Um
[2:08:05] and
[2:08:05] then to
[2:08:06] back another part, talking
[2:08:06] about our children
[2:08:08] . We hear
[2:08:10] much complaints about
[2:08:10] children's
[2:08:12] time
[2:08:13] on screens
[2:08:13] and
[2:08:14] children not getting out and
[2:08:14] getting to
[2:08:15] enjoy those
[2:08:15] those
[2:08:16] wild areas
[2:08:21] . This
[2:08:22] is why is
[2:08:22] this
[2:08:22] not a good investment
[2:08:23] ? My
[2:08:24] father-in-law has been
[2:08:24] involved
[2:08:26] with having these fields for
[2:08:26] the
[2:08:26] last 35
[2:08:27] years talking about
[2:08:28] . No
[2:08:28] one cared
[2:08:29] back then
[2:08:31] now all of a sudden we
[2:08:33] care
[2:08:34] over not taking away the
[2:08:34] importance
[2:08:35] the
[2:08:36] bird
[2:08:36] , but
[2:08:37] also we
[2:08:37] have
[2:08:38] care facilities in
[2:08:38] this town that are helping
[2:08:39] with
[2:08:40] overdoses and drugs and
[2:08:40] everything else
[2:08:41] . How
[2:08:41] about
[2:08:42] go up river and have
[2:08:43] an inch
[2:08:44] prevention for these
[2:08:46] . I heard
[2:08:46] with the
[2:08:47] other facilities
[2:08:48] , if
[2:08:48] we save one life
[2:08:49] , it's all
[2:08:49] worth it
[2:08:50] . Well
[2:08:50] , if we
[2:08:50] save
[2:08:51] one
[2:08:51] child from having to go
[2:08:52] into
[2:08:53] one of those beds
[2:08:53] . Isn't
[2:08:54] the
[2:08:55] same, isn't
[2:08:56] not worth it too
[2:08:57] So that's it. Thank you
[2:08:59] Thank
[2:08:59] you
[2:09:01] Anybody else like to
[2:09:02] comment today
[2:09:04] ? All right
[2:09:04] , thank
[2:09:05] you
[2:09:05] very much, Mr
[2:09:06] . Burns
[2:09:06] . Do
[2:09:06] you have anything
[2:09:07] on what you
[2:09:07] did last
[2:09:08] week or any other
[2:09:09] comments? I stayed
[2:09:10] busy
[2:09:10] last
[2:09:11] week
[2:09:11] . Excuse me
[2:09:12] , I still don't
[2:09:12] have
[2:09:13] my voice
[2:09:13] completely back
[2:09:13] here
[2:09:15] , but last Friday
[2:09:15] I went
[2:09:15] and
[2:09:15] did a
[2:09:16] site visit
[2:09:17] Bacchus
[2:09:17] Creek
[2:09:18] with people
[2:09:18] who had
[2:09:20] , uh,
[2:09:20] flooding issues
[2:09:22] , um, from the
[2:09:22] DECEMBER
[2:09:23] flood
[2:09:24] event and
[2:09:25] the
[2:09:25] creek
[2:09:26] backing up
[2:09:26] and in
[2:09:27] part
[2:09:28] being rerouted
[2:09:28] by some
[2:09:29] ditch
[2:09:29] work that
[2:09:29] had
[2:09:30] been done
[2:09:31] . It
[2:09:31] was
[2:09:31] interesting
[2:09:32] see
[2:09:33] what had
[2:09:33] gone
[2:09:34] there
[2:09:35] , gone
[2:09:35] on up there
[2:09:36] and
[2:09:37] actually getting eyes
[2:09:38] and how it is
[2:09:38] , uh, filled
[2:09:39] in,
[2:09:39] how it
[2:09:40] was changed
[2:09:40] , um, so
[2:09:41] I'm
[2:09:42] still conferring more with
[2:09:42] our
[2:09:43] staff about uh what's
[2:09:43] going on
[2:09:43] up there
[2:09:45] . Log
[2:09:45] Rodeo Parade
[2:09:45] , um,
[2:09:46] I volunteer with them
[2:09:46] each year
[2:09:47] and
[2:09:47] , uh, that
[2:09:47] actually went
[2:09:49] quite well. We did
[2:09:49] some
[2:09:49] changes
[2:09:50] and uh it
[2:09:51] was wonderful to see
[2:09:51] how
[2:09:52] we streamline the
[2:09:53] process
[2:09:54] and got a whole lot
[2:09:54] of people
[2:09:55] through
[2:09:56] , uh, a really
[2:09:57] cherished, uh, Skagit
[2:09:58] County
[2:09:58] event
[2:10:00] , um, and I
[2:10:00] think it
[2:10:01] flowed
[2:10:02] quite smoothly
[2:10:04] . So we
[2:10:04] went
[2:10:05] and all did
[2:10:05] a tour of
[2:10:05] the
[2:10:07] baker
[2:10:07] , uh, dam
[2:10:08] fish passage
[2:10:09] and it was quite
[2:10:10] neat
[2:10:11] to see
[2:10:11] the amount of
[2:10:12] fish coming
[2:10:12] into
[2:10:14] that passageway
[2:10:14] . Um
[2:10:14] , the tribe
[2:10:15] was down
[2:10:16] , uh, below
[2:10:16] , uh, doing
[2:10:18] their
[2:10:18] fishing
[2:10:19] and then seeing
[2:10:19] how many fish are
[2:10:20] making
[2:10:22] upriver still
[2:10:22] . Um
[2:10:24] the volume at
[2:10:25] which we're, that we're flowing
[2:10:25] through
[2:10:26] that
[2:10:27] system and the way
[2:10:28] that they get them through
[2:10:29] quickly
[2:10:30] as possible and then
[2:10:31] Baker Dam
[2:10:32] . It was
[2:10:32] quite neat
[2:10:33] see that
[2:10:34] . Um
[2:10:34] , also
[2:10:35] see
[2:10:36] their
[2:10:36] hatchery
[2:10:37] and how
[2:10:38] they
[2:10:38] have set up
[2:10:39] their processes
[2:10:40] there
[2:10:41] . Um
[2:10:41] , it was interesting
[2:10:42] to me. I'd
[2:10:42] never gone
[2:10:43] through a
[2:10:43] hatchery. I
[2:10:44] , I've seen
[2:10:45] fish
[2:10:45] production
[2:10:46] facilities for
[2:10:46] trout
[2:10:47] and
[2:10:47] sturgeon before
[2:10:48] , but it
[2:10:48] had
[2:10:49] never
[2:10:49] actually
[2:10:50] seen something
[2:10:50] where they were trying
[2:10:51] to put
[2:10:51] fish back
[2:10:53] into the
[2:10:53] , the
[2:10:54] natural
[2:10:54] habitat as the priority
[2:10:55] And
[2:10:55] it was
[2:10:56] , uh, quite interesting
[2:10:57] to walk through that
[2:10:57] . Also did
[2:10:58] a site tour
[2:10:58] Home
[2:10:59] Trust's
[2:10:59] gadget
[2:11:01] , um, did
[2:11:01] their, a tour
[2:11:02] their
[2:11:02] Summerland
[2:11:02] neighborhood
[2:11:03] , and
[2:11:03] then their
[2:11:04] their Park
[2:11:05] Street facility
[2:11:06] LaConnor
[2:11:07] , um, two
[2:11:08] different
[2:11:08] models
[2:11:08] , but
[2:11:10] , um, still
[2:11:10] quite
[2:11:11] interesting to see
[2:11:11] how they
[2:11:12] could
[2:11:12] take
[2:11:13] grants and
[2:11:14] create a
[2:11:14] program
[2:11:14] to help
[2:11:15] people who
[2:11:16] normally would not be able to
[2:11:16] purchase
[2:11:17] a home
[2:11:17] , get
[2:11:18] opportunity to make that
[2:11:19] first
[2:11:20] purchase and
[2:11:21] , uh, to
[2:11:21] get a leg
[2:11:23] life
[2:11:24] and
[2:11:25] also how
[2:11:25] they
[2:11:25] worked
[2:11:26] with
[2:11:26] other
[2:11:27] agencies to
[2:11:27] create
[2:11:28] rentals that were
[2:11:29] affordable for people in
[2:11:30] the
[2:11:30] area. Um
[2:11:30] , so I
[2:11:31] , I
[2:11:31] found
[2:11:31] that
[2:11:32] quite interesting. It was a
[2:11:32] model I had
[2:11:33] not looked
[2:11:34] very
[2:11:35] deeply um before now
[2:11:36] , so thank
[2:11:36] you very much
[2:11:37] . Thank
[2:11:37] you, Mr
[2:11:38] Browning
[2:11:38] had another meeting he
[2:11:38] had to
[2:11:39] get to
[2:11:40] , uh, or public
[2:11:41] comment went
[2:11:41] longer
[2:11:41] than
[2:11:42] expected
[2:11:43] , but uh thank you
[2:11:43] very
[2:11:43] much
[2:11:43] everybody
[2:11:44] being here
[2:11:45] . Uh
[2:11:46] offshore went to
[2:11:47] the Sitaole
[2:11:47] Laga
[2:11:48] rodeo parade
[2:11:48] . Really
[2:11:49] enjoyed that
[2:11:49] . Lots
[2:11:51] um people
[2:11:51] lot
[2:11:53] public there
[2:11:54] really
[2:11:54] appreciate that
[2:11:55] . Um
[2:11:56] , the, you
[2:11:56] know
[2:11:57] , 250
[2:11:58] years we've been a
[2:11:58] country now
[2:11:59] and it's
[2:11:59] pretty
[2:12:00] amazing what we've had,
[2:12:00] especially if you have a chance
[2:12:01] to travel around the world and
[2:12:01] see what the other
[2:12:02] countries
[2:12:02] have
[2:12:03] . We have a
[2:12:03] lot to
[2:12:05] grateful for what we have here.
[2:12:05] Always
[2:12:05] room
[2:12:06] to improve
[2:12:06] , but
[2:12:07] do have a lot of
[2:12:07] things to
[2:12:08] grateful
[2:12:09] for
[2:12:09] and
[2:12:10] moving
[2:12:10] forward
[2:12:11] , Commissioner
[2:12:11] Burns
[2:12:13] mentioned the
[2:12:14] future
[2:12:15] So Energy
[2:12:17] damn tour that we did
[2:12:17] up there
[2:12:18] um, it was
[2:12:19] really nice to
[2:12:20] through
[2:12:21] that
[2:12:21] . I had a
[2:12:22] chance to
[2:12:23] go through it a
[2:12:23] couple
[2:12:24] times
[2:12:25] before
[2:12:25] , um, but
[2:12:26] actually
[2:12:26] see
[2:12:27] the
[2:12:28] um salmon
[2:12:28] come through
[2:12:29] and
[2:12:29] they go
[2:12:30] the fish elevator
[2:12:31] and then they were sorting them
[2:12:32] as they
[2:12:32] come
[2:12:33] out and
[2:12:33] um it's
[2:12:35] it's really interesting
[2:12:35] how
[2:12:35] they are
[2:12:36] able to
[2:12:36] use
[2:12:37] the
[2:12:37] genetics
[2:12:37] and take
[2:12:38] so many
[2:12:39] depending on
[2:12:39] the run
[2:12:39] numbers
[2:12:40] that
[2:12:40] are coming in
[2:12:41] , how many
[2:12:41] they're
[2:12:41] catching
[2:12:42] and
[2:12:43] bringing up to the dam
[2:12:43] and how
[2:12:43] many
[2:12:44] they're
[2:12:45] using
[2:12:45] for
[2:12:46] the
[2:12:46] hatchery and how
[2:12:47] much they're
[2:12:47] just
[2:12:48] letting
[2:12:48] loose wild
[2:12:49] in the
[2:12:50] lake up there
[2:12:50] . So they've
[2:12:51] done
[2:12:52] a amazing job
[2:12:53] . I think
[2:12:53] they
[2:12:53] start
[2:12:54] out
[2:12:55] with 97
[2:12:56] fish when
[2:12:57] they started
[2:12:57] . They're up
[2:12:58] to 80
[2:12:59] or 90,000
[2:13:00] came back last
[2:13:00] year,
[2:13:01] so it was
[2:13:01] a huge, huge
[2:13:02] increase
[2:13:03] , um, what's
[2:13:03] really
[2:13:04] impressive what they're
[2:13:04] doing
[2:13:05] and one of the things we went
[2:13:06] up and looked at it because
[2:13:06] that's one of the
[2:13:07] things
[2:13:07] Seattle
[2:13:07] City
[2:13:08] like with their
[2:13:08] system
[2:13:09] of Ross and
[2:13:10] forth on
[2:13:10] the upper
[2:13:11] Skagget
[2:13:11] . That's what
[2:13:12] some type of
[2:13:12] system they're
[2:13:12] trying
[2:13:13] to get put
[2:13:14] in on that
[2:13:15] that's why we
[2:13:15] went up to
[2:13:15] look at
[2:13:16] . If there's
[2:13:17] anything
[2:13:18] else with that, we
[2:13:18] are
[2:13:19] adjourned. We'll be back in
[2:13:20] session at
[2:13:21] what is it
[2:13:21] , 1
[2:13:22] o'clock
[2:13:22] ? One o'clock. So with
[2:13:23] that, we're adjourn
[2:13:23] . Thank you
[2:16:17] Sessions County
[2:16:17] County
[2:16:18] commissioners back to order as
[2:16:18] the
[2:16:19] left
[2:16:19] one o'clock
[2:16:20] July
[2:16:20] 7th
[2:16:20] , 2026
[2:16:21] . We
[2:16:21] are
[2:16:22] here
[2:16:22] for
[2:16:24] presentation on Sedge
[2:16:24] County
[2:16:25] Fair kickoff
[2:16:26] , and then we
[2:16:26] have
[2:16:27] Ken Hanson
[2:16:28] , our, what
[2:16:28] are
[2:16:28] you
[2:16:29] calling yourself
[2:16:30] now
[2:16:30] ? Parks
[2:16:31] recreation, fair
[2:16:31] and
[2:16:32] facilities
[2:16:33] director. That's mouth for
[2:16:33] Very good
[2:16:34] . Thank you
[2:16:35] , Ken. Well
[2:16:36] good afternoon
[2:16:37] , commissioners
[2:16:38] , we're
[2:16:39] kicking
[2:16:39] off season
[2:16:40] here for
[2:16:40] our largest
[2:16:41] event at
[2:16:41] the
[2:16:42] county
[2:16:43] for
[2:16:44] the
[2:16:44] county fair
[2:16:45] Uh, this
[2:16:46] is really a
[2:16:46] quick
[2:16:46] introduction for myself, Ken
[2:16:47] Hansen
[2:16:49] , director of
[2:16:50] Parks
[2:16:50] Recreation and Fair
[2:16:51] and
[2:16:51] facilities
[2:16:52] , um, but really the
[2:16:53] show is all about
[2:16:53] Eric
[2:16:54] Gaither
[2:16:54] here
[2:16:55] . So
[2:16:55] , uh, I've
[2:16:56] been in
[2:16:56] the
[2:16:57] position a few months
[2:16:57] now
[2:16:58] , and
[2:16:58] this
[2:17:00] a huge
[2:17:01] event, so
[2:17:01] I'm
[2:17:01] really
[2:17:01] glad that
[2:17:03] have staff
[2:17:03] that have been working on it a
[2:17:04] lot longer
[2:17:04] than I have
[2:17:05] , so I'm
[2:17:06] just going to turn it over
[2:17:07] Eric because
[2:17:08] you get a
[2:17:08] lot more
[2:17:09] important and interesting stuff
[2:17:11] Great. Uh, we
[2:17:13] might add, um,
[2:17:13] for those of you who are in 4h
[2:17:15] uh, Ken is gonna be seen around
[2:17:16] the dog
[2:17:16] barn
[2:17:17] because his
[2:17:17] daughter is
[2:17:18] the 4 on
[2:17:20] right? Yeah, club, so he'll be
[2:17:21] around the fair
[2:17:22] and he's
[2:17:22] stranger to the fair
[2:17:23] , but
[2:17:23] , uh,
[2:17:24] lot
[2:17:25] of details that go into
[2:17:25] it. So
[2:17:27] yeah, I
[2:17:28] want to start
[2:17:29] off, uh, commissioners, it's
[2:17:30] great to be here
[2:17:31] . Um
[2:17:31] , you know,
[2:17:31] this is
[2:17:33] , I think these years
[2:17:33] are starting to go together, so
[2:17:34] I think this is
[2:17:35] year
[2:17:36] , so
[2:17:37] it's great to have a new phase
[2:17:38] Commissioner Burns up here
[2:17:39] , uh,
[2:17:40] you know, that kind of breaks
[2:17:41] up the, the
[2:17:41] , the ears aren't
[2:17:42] all
[2:17:42] running together, but I
[2:17:43] think
[2:17:43] , Commissioner Wheen, you
[2:17:45] have
[2:17:45] me outlasted. I think
[2:17:46] every
[2:17:46] year I have done this.
[2:17:47] You've been
[2:17:47] up here
[2:17:47] . So
[2:17:49] , um, it
[2:17:49] goes
[2:17:50] back
[2:17:51] to 2011 when
[2:17:51] our
[2:17:52] former director
[2:17:52] Bryan Adams
[2:17:53] called me when I
[2:17:53] was working
[2:17:55] out
[2:17:56] in Colorado in
[2:17:56] the
[2:17:56] mountains
[2:17:57] , and he said
[2:17:57] , How
[2:17:57] would you
[2:17:58] like to run
[2:17:58] the fair?
[2:17:59] here we are
[2:18:00] , um 15 years
[2:18:00] later, but it's it's an honor
[2:18:01] and a privilege
[2:18:01] , and
[2:18:02] I enjoy
[2:18:03] being here every year
[2:18:03] present to you
[2:18:04] guys
[2:18:04] , so
[2:18:05] , um, I
[2:18:05] do wanna, uh, do
[2:18:07] some shout
[2:18:07] outs in the audience here. We
[2:18:08] do have
[2:18:09] , um, some of
[2:18:09] our sketch
[2:18:10] accounting forh members. We
[2:18:11] have a couple of speakers who
[2:18:12] are going to come up
[2:18:13] later. Um
[2:18:14] we have the Wind
[2:18:14] Rider's
[2:18:15] Horse Club
[2:18:16] represented as well
[2:18:16] as the beaks
[2:18:17] , noses
[2:18:17] and Bill's
[2:18:18] Club
[2:18:19] , which
[2:18:20] , um, which
[2:18:21] encompasses, I believe
[2:18:22] couple's
[2:18:23] different
[2:18:23] species
[2:18:24] , um,
[2:18:24] and they
[2:18:25] , um, their
[2:18:26] club
[2:18:26] is a
[2:18:27] bit
[2:18:28] highlighted this
[2:18:28] year
[2:18:28] because of
[2:18:29] the theme, which
[2:18:29] we'll get to
[2:18:30] . So
[2:18:30] , um, also, we
[2:18:31] have some
[2:18:31] other members of
[2:18:32] the
[2:18:32] audience, I think we have
[2:18:34] , um,
[2:18:34] Henrietta
[2:18:35] , Daisy
[2:18:37] , and
[2:18:38] um Sonic
[2:18:38] down
[2:18:39] there
[2:18:39] in I think
[2:18:39] the
[2:18:40] better half
[2:18:41] our mascot
[2:18:42] well
[2:18:43] , so big thanks
[2:18:44] everyone
[2:18:44] for coming
[2:18:45] . So here
[2:18:46] we are
[2:18:47] , uh,
[2:18:48] 127 years later, the fair's
[2:18:48] been gone
[2:18:50] since
[2:18:50] 1898
[2:18:50] . The
[2:18:52] longest standing event
[2:18:53] Skagget County
[2:18:54] . Um
[2:18:54] , the fair
[2:18:54] runs off of
[2:18:56] full-time staff.
[2:18:57] Um, we also do get a lot of
[2:18:59] other help. Obviously, we have
[2:19:00] huge volunteer base, but
[2:19:01] run out
[2:19:02] full-time staff
[2:19:03] , um,
[2:19:03] well
[2:19:03] as we
[2:19:04] have park
[2:19:04] staff
[2:19:05] that comes in
[2:19:05] near the
[2:19:06] fair, but
[2:19:07] it takes takes
[2:19:08] village to
[2:19:08] do it
[2:19:09] . Um
[2:19:10] , we also
[2:19:10] have our advi
[2:19:11] advisory
[2:19:12] and
[2:19:12] foundation board supporting us
[2:19:14] both those boards
[2:19:15] were not
[2:19:15] really
[2:19:16] active until about 2
[2:19:17] years ago. Um
[2:19:19] , the advisory
[2:19:19] board, um
[2:19:21] was on
[2:19:21] hiatus and
[2:19:22] then we had some people
[2:19:23] stepped
[2:19:24] up to make a fairgrounds
[2:19:25] foundation. So yeah, as
[2:19:25] you
[2:19:26] guys know
[2:19:26] , um, going into, you
[2:19:27] know, at
[2:19:28] times where things are
[2:19:28] not getting easier, it's great
[2:19:30] have
[2:19:30] these pieces
[2:19:30] supporting
[2:19:32] . Of course, alongside our
[2:19:33] great
[2:19:34] 4hffa
[2:19:35] programs
[2:19:35] , um, it's
[2:19:35] just, it's a
[2:19:37] real privilege to
[2:19:37] have all these
[2:19:38] things and we
[2:19:38] have a
[2:19:39] lot
[2:19:40] good team spirit
[2:19:44] , um, I'm gonna take one step
[2:19:44] back from the
[2:19:46] fair just cause
[2:19:46] we get to do this
[2:19:47] once a year.
[2:19:48] , and I
[2:19:48] also, it's
[2:19:48] also
[2:19:49] good
[2:19:49] information for some of the
[2:19:50] people who
[2:19:50] are around
[2:19:51] fair and
[2:19:51] um are focused
[2:19:52] on fair
[2:19:53] . It's
[2:19:54] after all, you should be, it's
[2:19:54] the Super Bowl
[2:19:55] , but
[2:19:55] what goes
[2:19:55] on at the
[2:19:56] fairgrounds year
[2:19:56] round and I only
[2:19:57] have the
[2:19:58] pleasure of
[2:19:58] doing this
[2:19:58] once per
[2:19:58] year
[2:19:59] , so it's our
[2:20:00] chance to
[2:20:01] give you guys an idea of what
[2:20:01] goes
[2:20:02] year round
[2:20:03] . So
[2:20:04] , um,
[2:20:04] people
[2:20:04] always
[2:20:05] , people often
[2:20:05] wonder, you know, we
[2:20:06] have up to
[2:20:07] close to
[2:20:07] 50 events
[2:20:07] , but
[2:20:08] sometimes they
[2:20:08] get confused.
[2:20:09] Are you running it
[2:20:10] ? Are you
[2:20:10] charge
[2:20:11] of it
[2:20:12] ? Um
[2:20:12] , so
[2:20:13] the fair
[2:20:13] staff actually
[2:20:14] runs
[2:20:14] , um, you'll
[2:20:15] see actually it's
[2:20:15] 4 events, but
[2:20:15] the
[2:20:16] fair
[2:20:16] staff runs 4
[2:20:17] events
[2:20:17] and the
[2:20:18] rest are
[2:20:19] , um, mostly
[2:20:20] run by third parties, so
[2:20:20] there's a lot of
[2:20:21] interaction,
[2:20:21] of course
[2:20:22] , when those
[2:20:22] events
[2:20:23] happen, but we're
[2:20:23] the
[2:20:24] main
[2:20:25] driver. Um, these
[2:20:25] are our
[2:20:26] three
[2:20:27] trademarks, which is our spring
[2:20:27] and fall garage
[2:20:28] sale, and
[2:20:30] course
[2:20:30] , the fare
[2:20:31] . Um
[2:20:32] the spring
[2:20:33] and fall garage sales are great
[2:20:34] events, you know, every
[2:20:36] year we
[2:20:37] um, you know, there are a lot
[2:20:38] of work, but
[2:20:38] they, we do have
[2:20:39] it on a bit
[2:20:40] a template and
[2:20:41] we'd have vendors that
[2:20:41] come in
[2:20:42] and they are the stars of
[2:20:43] the
[2:20:43] show, so there is
[2:20:43] , there
[2:20:44] some
[2:20:45] , um, a
[2:20:45] lot
[2:20:46] familiarity
[2:20:47] that
[2:20:47] we can
[2:20:48] , um, lean on
[2:20:48] there
[2:20:48] and
[2:20:49] honestly, um, you
[2:20:49] know, we
[2:20:50] run on a
[2:20:50] business model
[2:20:51] here at
[2:20:52] the fairgrounds. If we had a
[2:20:52] , a
[2:20:54] different climate
[2:20:54] . Let's say
[2:20:55] lived in the South, we
[2:20:55] would
[2:20:56] probably
[2:20:56] do another
[2:20:57] garage sale
[2:20:57] in JANUARY
[2:20:58] or FEBRUARY
[2:20:58] , but
[2:21:00] we aren't blessed with the uh
[2:21:01] the weather and the
[2:21:02] durable
[2:21:03] surfaces. So we make do with
[2:21:03] what we got
[2:21:05] . Um
[2:21:07] , our
[2:21:07] spring
[2:21:07] garage sale happened in APRIL.
[2:21:08] Um, it was
[2:21:09] , it's
[2:21:09] always a
[2:21:10] success. It happened
[2:21:11] during
[2:21:11] the
[2:21:12] um, of course during the
[2:21:12] Tulip
[2:21:13] festival
[2:21:14] and some people ask,
[2:21:14] is that an accident that you
[2:21:15] have it in
[2:21:16] APRIL and
[2:21:16] I haven't
[2:21:17] been here 30
[2:21:17] years, but
[2:21:18] , uh,
[2:21:18] when
[2:21:18] , when
[2:21:19] the formation of
[2:21:20] this event happened
[2:21:20] , but I can
[2:21:21] tell you it's
[2:21:21] no accident that
[2:21:22] it's during the Skagit Valley
[2:21:22] Tulip
[2:21:23] Festival
[2:21:23] . So, um
[2:21:24] , again
[2:21:25] we had a great show this year
[2:21:27] um, 200, close to 200 vendors
[2:21:28] around 350 booths
[2:21:30] um, and those
[2:21:30] that don't come
[2:21:31] that
[2:21:31] money does
[2:21:32] support
[2:21:32] the fairgrounds in the
[2:21:34] year round operations
[2:21:34] , so
[2:21:34] , um,
[2:21:35] it all feeds
[2:21:36] into
[2:21:36] one another,
[2:21:38] . We
[2:21:39] do have another great
[2:21:39] chance in the fall
[2:21:40] . It's
[2:21:41] the
[2:21:42] sister event
[2:21:43] , and
[2:21:43] this
[2:21:44] one gets
[2:21:44] little
[2:21:45] extra
[2:21:45] pizzazz because
[2:21:46] we have a car show
[2:21:46] . So we have
[2:21:48] to 200 cars
[2:21:50] um, there
[2:21:50] , it's
[2:21:50] nice
[2:21:52] . So, um
[2:21:53] yeah
[2:21:54] , make sure to
[2:21:55] mark your calendar for that one
[2:21:56] I will add to that we
[2:21:57] have had
[2:21:59] clubs raising money at some
[2:21:59] of those
[2:21:59] garage sales
[2:22:01] , so
[2:22:01] know that in the
[2:22:02] small barn
[2:22:04] had
[2:22:04] $1000
[2:22:05] and then in the past
[2:22:06] there's been up to
[2:22:06] $2000 and
[2:22:06] that
[2:22:08] goes into um different
[2:22:08] things for
[2:22:10] their barn, and so
[2:22:11] that's money that you know
[2:22:11] those requests
[2:22:12] could
[2:22:13] getting
[2:22:13] to the
[2:22:14] fair
[2:22:15] budget
[2:22:15] as requested
[2:22:16] but a lot of those are
[2:22:17] being
[2:22:17] captured at
[2:22:18] , at just
[2:22:18] they're
[2:22:18] just taken
[2:22:19] off our plate
[2:22:19] and
[2:22:20] they're captured by the 4h
[2:22:21] clubs and I know
[2:22:21] that the
[2:22:21] horse
[2:22:23] department especially
[2:22:24] , um,
[2:22:24] fundraises
[2:22:25] a lot
[2:22:25] for the
[2:22:25] arena
[2:22:26] because
[2:22:26] the whole
[2:22:27] surface of
[2:22:28] the
[2:22:28] arena
[2:22:29] is pretty
[2:22:29] much
[2:22:30] up to
[2:22:31] the
[2:22:31] 4h Horse
[2:22:32] Clubs and
[2:22:32] their
[2:22:33] budget
[2:22:34] , so we're
[2:22:35] always trying
[2:22:35] come up with ways to
[2:22:36] give 4h
[2:22:37] good
[2:22:37] opportunity
[2:22:37] to fundraise
[2:22:38] but they are the ones who are
[2:22:39] really making it
[2:22:39] happen, so
[2:22:39] , um
[2:22:40] I know, I know
[2:22:41] you guys are
[2:22:42] very involved. I know APRIL is
[2:22:42] very involved with
[2:22:43] the Horse
[2:22:44] Club fundraising. So
[2:22:47] appreciate that and we do try
[2:22:47] to open up our
[2:22:48] events to, you
[2:22:48] know, make
[2:22:49] hey wherever
[2:22:50] we can
[2:22:51] while we're already having a
[2:22:51] big event going on
[2:22:54] the
[2:22:55] fairgrounds has always been a
[2:22:56] year-round gathering place, but
[2:22:57] I can tell you
[2:22:58] post covid that
[2:22:59] that has
[2:23:00] , uh, from a
[2:23:00] , a
[2:23:01] , a
[2:23:02] slogan that's true to
[2:23:03] slogan
[2:23:04] that's, that's
[2:23:04] , it's something
[2:23:05] we live and breathe every day
[2:23:07] There's so much going on
[2:23:07] . I
[2:23:07] mean
[2:23:07] , um we have
[2:23:08] the Highland
[2:23:09] Games going on at the
[2:23:09] fairgrounds, and that
[2:23:12] monstrous
[2:23:12] event
[2:23:13] . And
[2:23:14] , and
[2:23:15] if you
[2:23:15] , if you look
[2:23:16] our
[2:23:16] calendar
[2:23:17] , um, which I'll pull
[2:23:18] up here in a
[2:23:18] minute, it
[2:23:18] , it
[2:23:19] doesn't stop
[2:23:19] . We
[2:23:21] have
[2:23:21] brief
[2:23:22] periods
[2:23:22] of quiet in
[2:23:23] the winter
[2:23:23] um, but
[2:23:24] it's really
[2:23:24] , it's
[2:23:25] really great to see the
[2:23:25] fairgrounds
[2:23:26] utilized
[2:23:27] and um
[2:23:27] Yeah
[2:23:28] , it's been
[2:23:28] amazing post
[2:23:29] covid, um
[2:23:31] . So it's, it's a
[2:23:32] great thing
[2:23:33] . Um, some of the
[2:23:34] other things here that people
[2:23:34] MAY
[2:23:35] not know
[2:23:36] about as well as
[2:23:36] people do see the
[2:23:37] public
[2:23:38] events
[2:23:38] that go on, but
[2:23:38] we have
[2:23:40] racecar group that's in one of
[2:23:41] our buildings for 5 months
[2:23:42] the winter
[2:23:43] . So anyone who's
[2:23:43] looking
[2:23:44] for a
[2:23:45] winter hobby,
[2:23:45] they do
[2:23:45] carpet
[2:23:46] racing
[2:23:47] . Um
[2:23:47] , we
[2:23:47] do do
[2:23:48] professional trainings
[2:23:49] and things like that. We're
[2:23:50] don't do a
[2:23:51] ton
[2:23:52] the
[2:23:55] one-time private party events
[2:23:56] They just don't tend
[2:23:56] to be the
[2:23:57] best for
[2:23:57] our business model,
[2:23:58] but a
[2:23:58] lot
[2:23:59] the business
[2:23:59] we've
[2:24:00] had some
[2:24:00] state
[2:24:01] school testing
[2:24:01] in their
[2:24:02] homeschool testing in
[2:24:02] there. We
[2:24:03] hope
[2:24:04] that that stays
[2:24:04] and doesn't
[2:24:05] go online
[2:24:05] next year
[2:24:06] but
[2:24:06] those are
[2:24:07] great events and
[2:24:07] those are the things
[2:24:08] that
[2:24:08] actually
[2:24:08] we have a
[2:24:09] little
[2:24:09] more
[2:24:10] bandwidth to take on
[2:24:11] are
[2:24:11] the
[2:24:11] big
[2:24:13] weekday business rentals.
[2:24:14] So anyone out there who's a
[2:24:14] business and you want to use
[2:24:15] the fairgrounds, even
[2:24:16] even
[2:24:16] like a um
[2:24:19] picnic in the summer
[2:24:19] on a
[2:24:19] Thursday for all day
[2:24:20] you
[2:24:21] want to rent the fairgrounds or
[2:24:21] you want to do a
[2:24:22] big
[2:24:23] event on
[2:24:23] special Tuesday
[2:24:24] , Wednesdays
[2:24:25] Thursdays
[2:24:26] , um, we are
[2:24:26] , we're
[2:24:26] open
[2:24:27] for business, so
[2:24:29] um, and
[2:24:30] then the 4h usage, so a
[2:24:31] lot of
[2:24:32] the barns get used for
[2:24:33] practices. Again, the
[2:24:34] arena
[2:24:34] , um
[2:24:35] the big
[2:24:35] one that used
[2:24:36] by 4h
[2:24:37] 4 months out of the year, but
[2:24:37] we also
[2:24:38] have other
[2:24:39] things that
[2:24:39] on. Um
[2:24:39] , we
[2:24:41] actually had, we
[2:24:41] had
[2:24:41] dog clubs out
[2:24:42] there and
[2:24:42] they actually did
[2:24:43] a fundraiser
[2:24:43] to benefit
[2:24:44] the fairgrounds
[2:24:44] , but
[2:24:46] you know, the
[2:24:46] , the
[2:24:46] facility
[2:24:48] we always try to work for
[2:24:49] sometimes there's a
[2:24:49] little bit
[2:24:50] deconflicting if there's a
[2:24:51] huge
[2:24:52] revenue
[2:24:52] generating event
[2:24:53] such as there's a
[2:24:53] few Fridays
[2:24:53] where they
[2:24:54] , the
[2:24:54] horse clubs
[2:24:55] can't ride on
[2:24:55] Fridays because
[2:24:55] there's
[2:24:56] a big renter in, but a
[2:24:57] lot
[2:24:58] times the people
[2:24:58] are
[2:24:59] running
[2:24:59] the grounds for a
[2:25:00] full
[2:25:00] rental Wednesday
[2:25:01] through Sunday
[2:25:01] and
[2:25:02] they oftentimes
[2:25:02] we can
[2:25:03] still
[2:25:03] get horse
[2:25:03] clubs in
[2:25:04] Wednesday
[2:25:04] , Thursday
[2:25:05] , so
[2:25:06] um it's
[2:25:06] huge
[2:25:07] balancing act
[2:25:08] , but again
[2:25:08] when we
[2:25:09] have, when we
[2:25:09] have
[2:25:10] people chipping into the
[2:25:11] facility like that
[2:25:12] and putting
[2:25:12] money in
[2:25:13] sweat equity
[2:25:13] , we
[2:25:14] really try
[2:25:14] to do
[2:25:15] that
[2:25:16] and
[2:25:16] after
[2:25:17] all, they're prac
[2:25:17] tic ing for
[2:25:18] the Super Bowl and we're in
[2:25:19] charge of the Super Bowl, so
[2:25:19] it's kind
[2:25:19] of a
[2:25:20] , a cycle that
[2:25:20] works out
[2:25:22] . Um, another thing
[2:25:22] that I would like to
[2:25:23] highlight
[2:25:24] 4 times a year
[2:25:24] , we
[2:25:24] have the
[2:25:26] one
[2:25:26] day offender
[2:25:28] , um, program
[2:25:28] with the
[2:25:30] jail alternatives um
[2:25:31] through the
[2:25:31] sheriff's
[2:25:31] office
[2:25:32] and so
[2:25:33] I know
[2:25:33] that
[2:25:33] most people
[2:25:34] don't know about
[2:25:35] this. We
[2:25:35] have
[2:25:37] , um, one
[2:25:38] in typically the
[2:25:38] spring, one in
[2:25:39] the
[2:25:39] fall
[2:25:40] . We
[2:25:40] have one
[2:25:41] coming
[2:25:41] up here
[2:25:42] JULY
[2:25:43] and
[2:25:44] then
[2:25:44] the
[2:25:45] alternative staff
[2:25:45] they
[2:25:46] actually
[2:25:47] engineered one to
[2:25:47] have one
[2:25:47] right after
[2:25:48] the fair
[2:25:49] for tear down, but I can tell
[2:25:49] you
[2:25:50] those JULY and
[2:25:50] those
[2:25:51] AUGUST
[2:25:52] dates
[2:25:53] , we
[2:25:54] would be in a
[2:25:54] world
[2:25:55] hurt without
[2:25:55] those, so
[2:25:56] there's a lot of labor that
[2:25:57] goes into that
[2:25:58] , um, and I know
[2:25:58] that program it
[2:26:00] saves
[2:26:01] incarceration time, so it's
[2:26:01] , I
[2:26:02] think a couple of days
[2:26:02] jail.
[2:26:03] People
[2:26:04] work it off
[2:26:05] , but if
[2:26:05] that
[2:26:07] program is paramount to
[2:26:07] our
[2:26:08] success
[2:26:09] . And I
[2:26:09] would just like
[2:26:09] to call out
[2:26:10] the staff over
[2:26:11] there. They, they have been
[2:26:12] super accommodating and I
[2:26:13] know
[2:26:13] the August
[2:26:14] 1, uh, that they
[2:26:15] engineered for us. I
[2:26:16] know
[2:26:16] that
[2:26:17] the
[2:26:18] um department deputies
[2:26:19] they
[2:26:20] , it took a hit to
[2:26:20] their
[2:26:21] vacation and their planning and
[2:26:21] they
[2:26:22] , they
[2:26:22] sacrifice for us to
[2:26:23] do that because they know what
[2:26:24] takes to
[2:26:24] put
[2:26:25] together, so
[2:26:26] just some of
[2:26:27] the things behind
[2:26:27] the scenes
[2:26:29] . Um
[2:26:29] , I don't have,
[2:26:30] we can't go through all this,
[2:26:30] but
[2:26:31] here's kind of a snapshot
[2:26:32] of the
[2:26:33] year-round calendar
[2:26:34] , um,
[2:26:34] a lot going on
[2:26:35] , a lot
[2:26:36] going on
[2:26:37] , um, we
[2:26:38] do have to block out
[2:26:39] the ferret a little bit
[2:26:40] around
[2:26:40] the fair time
[2:26:41] , but
[2:26:43] , um, I know
[2:26:43] I've said
[2:26:44] this every year, but
[2:26:45] , my
[2:26:45] sanity and
[2:26:46] the calendar
[2:26:47] I said I don't know what else
[2:26:48] we can put in
[2:26:48] the
[2:26:49] busy season
[2:26:49] but
[2:26:50] , um, you know
[2:26:50] , both
[2:26:51] for
[2:26:51] motivation
[2:26:51] and this
[2:26:52] is what we
[2:26:53] do, this is
[2:26:53] what we need
[2:26:54] to do
[2:26:54] and there is
[2:26:55] , yes
[2:26:55] , there's,
[2:26:55] there's
[2:26:56] , there's
[2:26:57] financial
[2:26:58] pressures on
[2:26:58] everybody right
[2:26:58] now
[2:26:59] . So
[2:27:00] , um, you know, if
[2:27:01] someone wants to rent
[2:27:01] all
[2:27:01] the
[2:27:02] fairgrounds in
[2:27:03] late JULY
[2:27:03] it, I
[2:27:04] can't do the
[2:27:05] whole fairgrounds,
[2:27:05] but you want to do
[2:27:07] camp out
[2:27:08] two weeks before the fair in
[2:27:08] the
[2:27:08] South parking lot
[2:27:09] with the
[2:27:09] RVs
[2:27:10] Let's play ball. It's
[2:27:11] kind
[2:27:12] of what we do
[2:27:12] . So
[2:27:14] , um, I do
[2:27:14] kind of
[2:27:15] question sometimes when
[2:27:15] we say yes
[2:27:16] to things and find
[2:27:16] them in
[2:27:17] later and we're in the
[2:27:17] moment and
[2:27:18] doing
[2:27:18] 1000 things
[2:27:20] but um, you
[2:27:20] know, when
[2:27:21] you get
[2:27:21] done with
[2:27:22] when you get done
[2:27:22] with
[2:27:22] the
[2:27:23] hectic
[2:27:23] season, it, you
[2:27:24] kind of go
[2:27:25] back and
[2:27:25] I'm really
[2:27:26] glad that we, we did
[2:27:26] that
[2:27:27] and
[2:27:28] accommodated all that, so
[2:27:29] , um,
[2:27:30] I will say that
[2:27:30] it is
[2:27:30] um great.
[2:27:32] know
[2:27:32] commissioners
[2:27:32] , you guys
[2:27:33] sometimes come out to these
[2:27:33] events
[2:27:34] . You can look at this
[2:27:35] calendar anytime. I know
[2:27:37] Commissioner Burns was out
[2:27:37] the
[2:27:38] Washington
[2:27:38] State
[2:27:39] Grange
[2:27:39] Convention. So that was a
[2:27:40] state
[2:27:40] convention that
[2:27:41] we had
[2:27:42] , um, I
[2:27:43] know you guys
[2:27:44] are probably at
[2:27:45] different events, but
[2:27:45] I know
[2:27:46] Commissioner Wheon
[2:27:46] Brown, you
[2:27:47] guys are always good about
[2:27:47] tending the
[2:27:48] veterans event, but
[2:27:48] if you guys
[2:27:49] have
[2:27:50] any questions
[2:27:51] these events
[2:27:51] or you want
[2:27:52] attend them
[2:27:53] , please, um
[2:27:53] , reach
[2:27:54] out to me and I know it's, it
[2:27:54] means a lot to the people
[2:27:55] that
[2:27:55] that run these events
[2:27:56] they're
[2:27:57] they
[2:27:57] span
[2:27:59] , they span so
[2:27:59] many
[2:28:00] different things, right
[2:28:00] ? I
[2:28:00] mean
[2:28:01] , big game
[2:28:01] , big things like
[2:28:02] the Highland games
[2:28:04] , um, the
[2:28:05] causes like the
[2:28:06] veterans
[2:28:06] veterans event, we
[2:28:07] have
[2:28:08] the
[2:28:09] autism awareness event, the
[2:28:10] sheriff's office puts on. We
[2:28:11] have
[2:28:11] the clothing
[2:28:12] swap that's
[2:28:12] solid
[2:28:13] waste does. Those are
[2:28:13] kind
[2:28:14] of county
[2:28:15] , um, run things,
[2:28:16] but even
[2:28:16] down to
[2:28:17] the
[2:28:18] consignment sales, which yes,
[2:28:18] they're, they're running
[2:28:18] the
[2:28:19] business
[2:28:19] and they
[2:28:19] , you know,
[2:28:20] they have to make a
[2:28:20] profit to
[2:28:21] run it
[2:28:22] , but it's
[2:28:22] it's
[2:28:23] low
[2:28:23] budget
[2:28:24] you
[2:28:24] know
[2:28:24] , things or
[2:28:25] families
[2:28:26] that MAY not be able
[2:28:27] to afford more
[2:28:28] . So
[2:28:29] , um, it
[2:28:29] , we
[2:28:29] are just
[2:28:30] kind of
[2:28:31] uh a
[2:28:31] landing
[2:28:32] pad for
[2:28:33] so many
[2:28:33] different
[2:28:35] things and so
[2:28:36] , um, yeah
[2:28:37] , we
[2:28:37] encourage
[2:28:38] everyone to support
[2:28:38] all these events
[2:28:41] . So I
[2:28:42] will
[2:28:42] say
[2:28:45] that um this is another great
[2:28:45] event and I
[2:28:46] will, I
[2:28:46] will make a
[2:28:47] note
[2:28:47] that
[2:28:48] um our assistant
[2:28:49] manager, um Francis
[2:28:49] , she
[2:28:50] , um,
[2:28:51] is out on
[2:28:51] maternity leave right
[2:28:52] now
[2:28:53] , um, through the fair
[2:28:54] , so
[2:28:54] uh, I have
[2:28:56] hands full and so
[2:28:56] typically she would
[2:28:57] talk about
[2:28:57] this
[2:28:58] and you would
[2:28:58] actually get
[2:28:59] the better half
[2:28:59] of our
[2:29:00] of our
[2:29:00] public
[2:29:01] speaking duo oh if
[2:29:01] she
[2:29:02] were here, but
[2:29:03] , uh, I'm trying
[2:29:03] to fill in
[2:29:04] . So
[2:29:05] , um, this is
[2:29:05] , uh
[2:29:06] something that got started
[2:29:07] after we
[2:29:07] hired Francis
[2:29:08] in 2023,
[2:29:09] but it was modeled
[2:29:09] after
[2:29:10] something
[2:29:10] that
[2:29:10] happened in
[2:29:11] Watcombe Coun ty but it's
[2:29:12] called this Gadget Farm
[2:29:12] Circle
[2:29:13] , and so we
[2:29:14] , we partner, we
[2:29:16] Francis does the work on this
[2:29:17] but partnered
[2:29:18] with the
[2:29:18] Western
[2:29:19] Washington Agricultural
[2:29:20] , um,
[2:29:20] Association and so
[2:29:21] bring 500
[2:29:22] 3rd graders through
[2:29:23] the
[2:29:24] fairgrounds. A lot
[2:29:24] of it's
[2:29:25] the
[2:29:25] farmers are
[2:29:25] there. We
[2:29:25] have
[2:29:26] tractors, so it's
[2:29:27] very hands on
[2:29:28] I know we have
[2:29:28] conservation
[2:29:28] district
[2:29:29] . I'm going to
[2:29:29] MISS A
[2:29:29] bunch
[2:29:30] of people
[2:29:31] , but
[2:29:31] it's
[2:29:32] really
[2:29:32] cool thing that
[2:29:33] we do in
[2:29:34] the
[2:29:34] offseason
[2:29:36] , um, and
[2:29:37] I know
[2:29:38] know that the
[2:29:38] , that
[2:29:39] the
[2:29:39] farmers
[2:29:39] and
[2:29:40] the
[2:29:41] other agencies
[2:29:41] really
[2:29:41] appreciate it. This is
[2:29:42] one of those
[2:29:42] things
[2:29:43] that
[2:29:43] and I
[2:29:43] will point
[2:29:43] out we
[2:29:44] , we spent a
[2:29:45] lot of time running a business
[2:29:46] model. This thing
[2:29:47] is no money
[2:29:47] in, no
[2:29:47] money out
[2:29:48] for
[2:29:48] us, but
[2:29:49] it's
[2:29:50] commitment to a lot of
[2:29:50] the
[2:29:51] people that
[2:29:52] uphold the fair
[2:29:52] and the roots of the fair is,
[2:29:53] you know
[2:29:54] , the agricultural
[2:29:55] community and so I know
[2:29:55] that a
[2:29:55] lot
[2:29:56] of people, and
[2:29:56] you guys
[2:29:57] know this, that if
[2:29:57] you don't
[2:29:58] feed
[2:29:59] this information
[2:29:59] , uh,
[2:30:00] where it comes from
[2:30:00] , it's
[2:30:01] gonna
[2:30:01] die, right
[2:30:02] ? And so
[2:30:02] this is a
[2:30:03] really cool thing that
[2:30:04] happens
[2:30:04] the at
[2:30:05] the fairgrounds
[2:30:06] . So
[2:30:07] yeah
[2:30:07] . Check
[2:30:08] out
[2:30:10] NOVEMBER, um
[2:30:11] . I
[2:30:12] guess check it
[2:30:12] out. It's for 3rd grade
[2:30:13] students. But if you
[2:30:14] want to
[2:30:15] involved or a commissioner to
[2:30:15] show up, it's a really
[2:30:17] cool
[2:30:17] thing
[2:30:19] . Ok, so
[2:30:21] , um, more fun
[2:30:21] facts about the
[2:30:23] fairground
[2:30:23] . So
[2:30:26] , um, did
[2:30:26] get a
[2:30:27] high level
[2:30:28] economic impact study
[2:30:28] done
[2:30:29] through one of
[2:30:29] the
[2:30:30] International Affairs
[2:30:31] Association
[2:30:32] and here are
[2:30:32] some
[2:30:33] the results
[2:30:33] . So you
[2:30:33] see all
[2:30:34] those
[2:30:34] different events that
[2:30:35] come through
[2:30:36] the
[2:30:37] fairgrounds
[2:30:37] and the economic
[2:30:38] benefit that
[2:30:38] the
[2:30:39] fairgrounds provides
[2:30:40] , um,
[2:30:40] I'll
[2:30:41] , I'll let
[2:30:41] the numbers do
[2:30:42] the
[2:30:42] talking
[2:30:43] here
[2:30:43] . The
[2:30:44] , the
[2:30:44] one
[2:30:45] thing that
[2:30:46] we also
[2:30:46] um are
[2:30:47] always trying to
[2:30:48] educate
[2:30:48] on and
[2:30:49] try and
[2:30:50] draw attention to is
[2:30:50] that
[2:30:51] the fairgrounds, while we
[2:30:52] do get support from the county
[2:30:53] in many ways, and we
[2:30:54] are, we
[2:30:55] are so much better being a part
[2:30:56] of the county than on
[2:30:56] our own
[2:30:57] as a
[2:30:57] nonprofit that the
[2:30:58] fairgrounds
[2:30:59] . Has not
[2:31:01] and dare I
[2:31:02] say probably will not receive
[2:31:02] general funds
[2:31:04] for many years to
[2:31:04] come
[2:31:06] . So it's been like that
[2:31:08] since 2009. So all
[2:31:08] this
[2:31:09] impact is
[2:31:10] happening
[2:31:10] without any
[2:31:11] general funds
[2:31:12] going to
[2:31:13] operations and so
[2:31:15] , um, and
[2:31:15] that
[2:31:15] includes all
[2:31:16] of our
[2:31:17] annual
[2:31:18] operating costs and so
[2:31:18] oftentimes when I'm
[2:31:19] having
[2:31:20] conversations they're going, oh
[2:31:20] but
[2:31:20] you know
[2:31:22] are you
[2:31:23] , but
[2:31:23] you're paid by the
[2:31:24] count the
[2:31:24] staff, and it's like, oh, we
[2:31:24] are
[2:31:26] very supported by the
[2:31:27] county and we appreciate that,
[2:31:27] but no, we
[2:31:28] are not
[2:31:28] . So all
[2:31:29] the
[2:31:29] staffing and all that
[2:31:31] paid
[2:31:32] by revenues at
[2:31:33] the fairgrounds,
[2:31:33] and
[2:31:34] and
[2:31:35] so that's kind of the
[2:31:36] story that we try and
[2:31:37] keep
[2:31:38] telling. And so I know we're
[2:31:38] going into a difficult
[2:31:39] budget
[2:31:40] season too as well, and
[2:31:41] there's
[2:31:42] you, everyone's going to see
[2:31:43] things and it's hard
[2:31:43] . Programs
[2:31:43] are going
[2:31:44] to get cut
[2:31:44] and things
[2:31:45] like that
[2:31:45] , but we're
[2:31:46] the reason
[2:31:47] why we're still standing
[2:31:49] because we're able to do
[2:31:49] that,
[2:31:50] you know, with
[2:31:51] the
[2:31:51] revenues
[2:31:52] that we
[2:31:52] , that we make
[2:31:53] and so
[2:31:54] everyone's got a
[2:31:54] cause right
[2:31:55] now. I
[2:31:56] know that
[2:31:56] you guys are
[2:31:58] you probably
[2:31:58] getting flooded
[2:31:58] with the, you know
[2:31:59] , when
[2:32:00] GoFundMe's and all that stuff
[2:32:01] because a lot
[2:32:02] nonprofits
[2:32:03] they're looking for help and
[2:32:03] it's just, it's
[2:32:04] , it's a
[2:32:04] tough
[2:32:04] thing but
[2:32:05] my pitch
[2:32:06] to all you
[2:32:06] guys out there and
[2:32:06] business
[2:32:07] owners is when you guys support
[2:32:09] the fairgrounds
[2:32:09] , the
[2:32:10] fairgrounds are supporting
[2:32:11] the
[2:32:11] local economy, right
[2:32:12] ? So we
[2:32:12] have
[2:32:13] many ways to
[2:32:14] to donate
[2:32:15] and
[2:32:16] get involved to
[2:32:16] help continue
[2:32:18] supporting this. So whether you
[2:32:18] give to the 4h, which
[2:32:20] self-sustaining itself, or if
[2:32:21] you do a sponsorship with
[2:32:22] the
[2:32:23] fair
[2:32:24] there's other options
[2:32:24] too
[2:32:25] you can give to the
[2:32:25] new
[2:32:26] fairgrounds
[2:32:27] , um, nonprofit
[2:32:28] foundation. So there's just a
[2:32:28] lot of different
[2:32:29] ways
[2:32:30] , but
[2:32:31] there's a lot of different ways
[2:32:32] people can say that they have
[2:32:32] the impact
[2:32:33] , but
[2:32:33] this is
[2:32:34] create fun
[2:32:36] , we create education
[2:32:36] we create lasting memories, and
[2:32:38] create huge economic impact.
[2:32:40] um that's just kind
[2:32:41] everyone out there
[2:32:41] , so
[2:32:41] , um
[2:32:43] . Yep
[2:32:47] capital projects
[2:32:48] , um, we are
[2:32:50] uh, always trying to move the
[2:32:50] needle
[2:32:51] forward on um
[2:32:52] you know,
[2:32:52] improving
[2:32:54] the fair ground so
[2:32:54] the
[2:32:56] um, we've had
[2:32:56] some
[2:32:57] wsd
[2:32:57] wsda
[2:32:57] grants
[2:32:58] , which have been really
[2:32:59] good
[2:32:59] for us
[2:33:01] . Um
[2:33:01] , so the
[2:33:01] , we put
[2:33:02] a new
[2:33:03] restroom
[2:33:03] facility in
[2:33:04] , um,
[2:33:04] last year
[2:33:06] . Um, which we
[2:33:08] got
[2:33:09] $250,000 from wsda
[2:33:09] . We
[2:33:10] finished
[2:33:10] our sewer line
[2:33:12] in 2024
[2:33:12] . Luckily
[2:33:12] before
[2:33:13] the 2024 fair, we
[2:33:14] had
[2:33:14] some, you know
[2:33:15] , sewer line
[2:33:15] issues
[2:33:16] during
[2:33:17] major
[2:33:17] events are
[2:33:20] uh, they're memorable and not
[2:33:20] in the
[2:33:21] right way
[2:33:21] , so
[2:33:21] I just
[2:33:24] remember the call that we were
[2:33:24] getting
[2:33:25] close to fall at
[2:33:26] the
[2:33:26] 2023 fair
[2:33:27] , and I put in the
[2:33:28] word to get
[2:33:28] the
[2:33:30] tractors, and I
[2:33:30] need
[2:33:31] every
[2:33:31] single
[2:33:32] portable
[2:33:33] toilet forked in the middle of
[2:33:33] the fairgrounds
[2:33:34] . So
[2:33:35] , yes, I
[2:33:35] know the
[2:33:35] horse
[2:33:36] departments
[2:33:37] where you're taking
[2:33:37] our toilets
[2:33:38] and all this, but we had to put
[2:33:38] all of
[2:33:39] them in
[2:33:39] there and call
[2:33:40] the va
[2:33:40] truck from
[2:33:41] Public Works,
[2:33:41] and they were out
[2:33:42] of service
[2:33:43] Baker Lake
[2:33:44] Road or
[2:33:44] something
[2:33:44] like that
[2:33:46] , and so we
[2:33:46] got that
[2:33:47] one done a little I had
[2:33:48] the
[2:33:48] restroom. Um
[2:33:49] , our staff
[2:33:49] , you'll
[2:33:49] see
[2:33:50] the garden bed
[2:33:50] by the
[2:33:51] fairgrounds, but
[2:33:51] our staff did
[2:33:52] that
[2:33:52] . It's
[2:33:53] the
[2:33:53] flowers are
[2:33:54] popping right now. You guys
[2:33:55] should check that out when
[2:33:55] you're there, um, and last year
[2:33:56] we did some led lighting
[2:33:57] . And
[2:33:58] lots of little things
[2:33:59] , um, on
[2:33:59] this next
[2:34:00] coming
[2:34:00] upcoming cycle
[2:34:01] for
[2:34:02] wsda grants, we
[2:34:02] did, we are
[2:34:03] doing some
[2:34:04] paving up at the
[2:34:04] north half of
[2:34:05] the grounds
[2:34:07] near the, that would be at the
[2:34:07] fair, the
[2:34:08] petting zoo
[2:34:08] , the
[2:34:09] dog
[2:34:09] barn
[2:34:09] , um
[2:34:11] we are
[2:34:11] doing a lot
[2:34:13] electrical upgrades
[2:34:15] , um, to
[2:34:15] the
[2:34:16] rv areas, some of
[2:34:17] the horse
[2:34:18] barns, again, some of that not
[2:34:20] gonna happen probably until
[2:34:20] this
[2:34:20] next
[2:34:21] offseason
[2:34:22] . Um
[2:34:22] , we do
[2:34:23] have new
[2:34:23] swine
[2:34:24] pens in
[2:34:25] and then
[2:34:25] uh we're
[2:34:26] working on some of
[2:34:26] the
[2:34:26] new
[2:34:27] portable
[2:34:27] ada
[2:34:28] bleachers and
[2:34:29] much to
[2:34:31] the delight of all
[2:34:31] the
[2:34:32] Anbarn superintendents
[2:34:33] , we
[2:34:33] have
[2:34:34] dogs allowed
[2:34:36] barns for
[2:34:36] the entire
[2:34:38] , uh, barns
[2:34:38] , so it's
[2:34:39] it's kind of
[2:34:40] an issue of
[2:34:41] getting people at the gates to
[2:34:42] do that
[2:34:43] , um, so we
[2:34:43] . We
[2:34:44] we got
[2:34:45] grants to do that
[2:34:46] , so they'll
[2:34:47] be outside all the animal barns
[2:34:47] and and just for the public
[2:34:49] knows too, um, of
[2:34:49] course
[2:34:50] service
[2:34:51] animals are allowed,
[2:34:51] but
[2:34:51] all the
[2:34:52] the
[2:34:52] animals go
[2:34:53] through that check and so it's
[2:34:54] real safety issue. So animals
[2:34:56] bring in for vet check and
[2:34:56] then
[2:34:57] you bring a bunch of animals
[2:34:57] that
[2:34:58] aren't
[2:34:59] vet checked, and it
[2:34:59] just creates
[2:35:00] , um, you know
[2:35:01] , an
[2:35:01] environment where a lot of
[2:35:02] people are
[2:35:02] being
[2:35:03] really
[2:35:03] responsible and taken care of
[2:35:04] and
[2:35:04] they're going, this
[2:35:05] is the
[2:35:06] Super Bowl and they're, they've
[2:35:06] done all the things and
[2:35:07] then
[2:35:08] you just
[2:35:08] bring
[2:35:10] it outside kind
[2:35:10] of thing that
[2:35:11] hasn't been
[2:35:11] checked in
[2:35:12] and so we just
[2:35:12] try
[2:35:12] to, there's
[2:35:13] a lot of
[2:35:13] safety
[2:35:13] that
[2:35:14] goes into that
[2:35:15] , so
[2:35:16] I know
[2:35:17] sometimes when you explain that
[2:35:17] to the public
[2:35:18] , some people, it
[2:35:19] MAY not matter, but some people
[2:35:19] go, oh wow
[2:35:19] , that's the light
[2:35:20] bulb goes off like, oh, this is
[2:35:21] why we do that
[2:35:21] . So
[2:35:22] , uh, we're
[2:35:23] also working on some sound
[2:35:23] system
[2:35:25] upgrades for the
[2:35:25] pavilion. I know
[2:35:25] during
[2:35:26] the
[2:35:26] livestock sale
[2:35:28] . Um, we
[2:35:29] , people
[2:35:30] bought portable systems
[2:35:31] because
[2:35:32] our main system needs an
[2:35:32] upgrade
[2:35:33] . So
[2:35:34] , um, also
[2:35:34] I just
[2:35:35] for the funding
[2:35:36] , I know
[2:35:36] commissioners you guys
[2:35:37] um like
[2:35:37] to be kept
[2:35:39] , you know
[2:35:39] , um, up on
[2:35:40] this
[2:35:41] , but wsda does have
[2:35:42] um,
[2:35:43] two funds for us from the state
[2:35:43] so we are
[2:35:45] . By
[2:35:45] and large not
[2:35:46] publicly funded
[2:35:47] , um, but we do
[2:35:48] get some money
[2:35:48] from
[2:35:49] wsda. So if
[2:35:50] we are commissioners, if
[2:35:51] you
[2:35:51] guys
[2:35:52] are
[2:35:52] ever
[2:35:53] um with
[2:35:54] local
[2:35:54] legislators who MAY
[2:35:55] have that
[2:35:55] the
[2:35:56] fair funding
[2:35:56] obviously it's
[2:35:57] going to be
[2:35:57] , uh, it's going
[2:35:59] be up for
[2:35:59] discussion
[2:35:59] and
[2:36:00] absolutely will be on the
[2:36:01] chopping
[2:36:01] block
[2:36:01] 100% and
[2:36:02] with
[2:36:02] this, you know, the way
[2:36:03] the
[2:36:03] state
[2:36:04] budget's going
[2:36:04] , but
[2:36:05] there's two
[2:36:05] fair
[2:36:05] funds
[2:36:06] that
[2:36:06] that
[2:36:07] um come from the
[2:36:07] state, so
[2:36:08] there's more of an
[2:36:09] operating
[2:36:09] one
[2:36:10] , it's called the
[2:36:10] Fair Fund,
[2:36:11] and
[2:36:11] so that
[2:36:12] , um
[2:36:12] , by
[2:36:13] and large,
[2:36:13] we take a lot of that and put
[2:36:14] it towards
[2:36:14] the premiums
[2:36:14] . So
[2:36:15] that's
[2:36:16] where the
[2:36:17] um payouts go
[2:36:17] for people when
[2:36:18] they
[2:36:19] exhibit.
[2:36:19] Um, there's also a
[2:36:21] capital fund
[2:36:21] that
[2:36:22] funds things
[2:36:22] like this. So
[2:36:24] um, the operational fund has
[2:36:24] actually been the one hit
[2:36:26] harder than the capital one
[2:36:26] that seemed to
[2:36:27] be more hole
[2:36:28] We've
[2:36:28] kind of
[2:36:29] , of course
[2:36:29] during these times you almost
[2:36:30] want them
[2:36:32] be reversed
[2:36:33] sometimes
[2:36:33] , but it's
[2:36:33] , you guys
[2:36:34] know that's not the way
[2:36:35] it goes
[2:36:37] , uh, we appreciate
[2:36:38] , um, the
[2:36:39] advocacy, but it is really good
[2:36:39] We have
[2:36:40] great partners
[2:36:41] wsda, and
[2:36:42] that's how
[2:36:42] these
[2:36:42] happen
[2:36:44] . Ok
[2:36:44] , let's
[2:36:44] get
[2:36:44] moving on
[2:36:45] to the big
[2:36:45] show
[2:36:46] , which is the
[2:36:46] fair, which is why you're all
[2:36:47] here
[2:36:48] . So
[2:36:48] , um
[2:36:50] let's wing it
[2:36:51] That's
[2:36:52] our theme this year
[2:36:53] . So,
[2:36:53] each
[2:36:55] , uh, each fall
[2:36:55] , uh, I
[2:36:56] don't know what we do
[2:36:57] . We get
[2:36:58] done with the fare
[2:36:59] . We are
[2:37:00] to other
[2:37:00] events
[2:37:01] . We
[2:37:02] get
[2:37:02] OCTOBER we go to
[2:37:03] our conference
[2:37:04] get rejuvenated, and then
[2:37:05] start
[2:37:07] throwing ideas around for
[2:37:07] the
[2:37:08] next year's fair theme and
[2:37:09] it is a little
[2:37:11] bit overwhelming
[2:37:11] because last year we had the
[2:37:12] Cool Cats
[2:37:13] theme and you're
[2:37:13] sitting
[2:37:13] there
[2:37:14] going, this
[2:37:15] , how
[2:37:16] are we
[2:37:16] going to
[2:37:16] , how are we
[2:37:17] going to even
[2:37:17] get close to that
[2:37:18] right
[2:37:18] ? And so there's, you feel
[2:37:20] the pressure, right? And we
[2:37:20] have the shades and all that
[2:37:21] and like what in the
[2:37:22] heck are
[2:37:23] going
[2:37:23] to do
[2:37:24] ? So
[2:37:25] know
[2:37:26] we um
[2:37:26] did
[2:37:27] have poultry as kind
[2:37:28] the
[2:37:28] last
[2:37:29] major animal
[2:37:29] group
[2:37:29] that
[2:37:31] didn't
[2:37:31] uh maybe hadn't had
[2:37:32] a theme in
[2:37:32] the last 10 years
[2:37:33] . I
[2:37:34] remember back
[2:37:34] to 2015
[2:37:35] is when
[2:37:36] started
[2:37:36] instituting the
[2:37:37] animal themes
[2:37:37] and that
[2:37:38] that
[2:37:39] animal theme just
[2:37:39] uh date you
[2:37:40] all. I know Commissioner Wheen,
[2:37:40] you probably don't remember
[2:37:41] this, but you're the only one
[2:37:42] around then, but it
[2:37:42] was the
[2:37:43] summer of 60 swine, the best
[2:37:44] days of our lives
[2:37:47] . Yeah, and I
[2:37:48] believe
[2:37:49] , uh, Louisa, I do
[2:37:50] believe you probably sent
[2:37:51] me an
[2:37:52] email in the middle of last
[2:37:52] year's fair
[2:37:53] , and
[2:37:53] I probably
[2:37:54] filed it and I
[2:37:55] probably didn't
[2:37:56] fully tend on whatever, but it
[2:37:56] did
[2:37:56] come
[2:37:58] back
[2:37:59] and
[2:37:59] poultry was
[2:38:00] what we didn't go
[2:38:00] with
[2:38:01] and
[2:38:01] uh I
[2:38:02] uh, I
[2:38:03] do appreciate
[2:38:03] , I do
[2:38:04] appreciate
[2:38:04] honesty
[2:38:04] and
[2:38:05] authenticity and what we do a
[2:38:06] lot
[2:38:06] of the fair
[2:38:06] is a
[2:38:07] highly
[2:38:08] organized, it's a
[2:38:08] highly
[2:38:09] organized machine that I'd be
[2:38:10] lying
[2:38:10] to tell
[2:38:11] you if
[2:38:11] if 10%
[2:38:12] it isn't
[2:38:13] winging it
[2:38:13] every
[2:38:14] year
[2:38:15] So it's kind
[2:38:15] of fun around
[2:38:15] the
[2:38:16] office as well because we have
[2:38:17] wing it to get it
[2:38:17] done
[2:38:18] sometimes
[2:38:18] , so
[2:38:20] , um, a, a shout
[2:38:21] out
[2:38:22] um James Longini
[2:38:23] , who's
[2:38:23] doing
[2:38:24] the
[2:38:25] , who did
[2:38:25] the artwork
[2:38:26] for us and as you guys know
[2:38:27] , he
[2:38:28] , uh, well
[2:38:29] , Brian
[2:38:30] Young is
[2:38:30] uh, retired from the
[2:38:31] county now
[2:38:31] but
[2:38:32] he started filling his
[2:38:33] shoes
[2:38:33] last year
[2:38:34] , so it's really
[2:38:34] cool to
[2:38:34] have that
[2:38:35] support
[2:38:36] internally
[2:38:37] , um, and
[2:38:37] have
[2:38:37] someone
[2:38:38] from within
[2:38:38] the county
[2:38:39] continue to do that
[2:38:40] , so, and
[2:38:41] the goal
[2:38:42] Sketch
[2:38:43] County Fair
[2:38:43] to produce a
[2:38:44] fair in which
[2:38:45] there's pride and
[2:38:45] involvement
[2:38:45] by the people
[2:38:46] of Skagitt County
[2:38:47] Here's some
[2:38:48] fun pictures
[2:38:48] , um,
[2:38:48] you know
[2:38:49] , the
[2:38:49] fair
[2:38:50] is fair is
[2:38:51] all about the memories, the
[2:38:52] kids and livestock show, you
[2:38:53] can see this is, we have the
[2:38:53] stuff
[2:38:54] for the
[2:38:54] bus event
[2:38:55] , um,
[2:38:55] it's again, that's a
[2:38:56] great
[2:38:57] charitable thing
[2:38:59] , um, we're
[2:38:59] just got mowing down an ice
[2:39:00] cream cone at
[2:39:01] the fair
[2:39:01] . I mean,
[2:39:02] that's what it's
[2:39:02] all about
[2:39:03] . The
[2:39:04] bands, we have
[2:39:06] huge cultural
[2:39:07] um, you know
[2:39:07] , we have
[2:39:08] great
[2:39:09] cultural stage going on
[2:39:10] with
[2:39:10] the
[2:39:10] the
[2:39:11] Latin entertainment
[2:39:12] stage which is out in the
[2:39:13] carnival area
[2:39:14] at the fair
[2:39:14] , but
[2:39:14] this
[2:39:15] is what it's
[2:39:15] all
[2:39:16] about the
[2:39:17] the pictures, the memo ries
[2:39:19] here's some numbers from the
[2:39:20] 2025 Fair
[2:39:21] . Obviously, 4 days of
[2:39:22] fun. What
[2:39:23] else would they be
[2:39:24] filled with
[2:39:24] but fun
[2:39:24] . Um
[2:39:26] , around
[2:39:27] 30,000 attendees, um, we
[2:39:28] had
[2:39:28] stages with over
[2:39:29] 100
[2:39:29] performances
[2:39:31] had
[2:39:33] nonprofits fundraising, which
[2:39:34] we'll go over
[2:39:35] that in a little
[2:39:35] bit
[2:39:35] . 20
[2:39:37] nonprofits
[2:39:37] participating
[2:39:38] , um, over
[2:39:41] 7000
[2:39:42] exhibitors over
[2:39:43] over
[2:39:43] 5000
[2:39:44] number of
[2:39:44] total exhibits
[2:39:46] , um, a
[2:39:46] lot of
[2:39:47] vendors and then
[2:39:48] , um,
[2:39:49] for, for people out there too,
[2:39:50] lot of
[2:39:50] the
[2:39:51] departments that
[2:39:52] you enter in, like 4h
[2:39:52] and ffa
[2:39:53] you kind of need to be a part
[2:39:54] of that ahead of
[2:39:55] , ahead of the
[2:39:55] fair, but there
[2:39:56] are open
[2:39:56] class
[2:39:57] divisions. So if you got our
[2:39:57] website you
[2:39:57] see
[2:39:58] open
[2:39:58] Class
[2:40:00] , um,
[2:40:00] you can
[2:40:01] basically walk up
[2:40:01] and
[2:40:02] exhibit and
[2:40:02] there's times
[2:40:03] the
[2:40:03] week of
[2:40:03] the fair
[2:40:04] , so
[2:40:05] , um
[2:40:06] have 59 departments
[2:40:09] with
[2:40:09] 76766
[2:40:09] divisions to participate
[2:40:11] . So
[2:40:11] there's a lot going on
[2:40:13] . Um, if
[2:40:14] you were to also ask me
[2:40:15] if I
[2:40:16] know all those off the top of
[2:40:16] my head
[2:40:18] , the answer is no, we
[2:40:19] have amazing
[2:40:19] , uh,
[2:40:20] superintendents who in charge
[2:40:20] of those divisions. Sometimes
[2:40:21] we get phone
[2:40:22] calls in and we,
[2:40:22] you
[2:40:22] know
[2:40:23] , myself, I
[2:40:24] gotta pull
[2:40:24] up the quilt thing
[2:40:25] and go, ok
[2:40:25] let's
[2:40:26] see what's going
[2:40:27] on here
[2:40:27] And then
[2:40:28] , um, as
[2:40:29] the experts
[2:40:30] we don't
[2:40:30] know the answer
[2:40:31] . Um,
[2:40:32] so the heart of the
[2:40:33] fair, we
[2:40:33] talked about the division. So
[2:40:34] there's
[2:40:34] 4h, which
[2:40:35] well
[2:40:36] represented
[2:40:36] , um, in this
[2:40:37] , um,
[2:40:38] in this room, and we're gonna
[2:40:39] have some people talk about
[2:40:40] the
[2:40:41] impact whereas there's
[2:40:42] ffa
[2:40:42] program, which is
[2:40:42] mostly
[2:40:43] through
[2:40:44] the schools, and I
[2:40:44] know
[2:40:45] have
[2:40:45] some
[2:40:47] uh some
[2:40:47] ffa
[2:40:48] members up up here,
[2:40:48] commissioners
[2:40:49] , which you
[2:40:49] guys
[2:40:50] usually talk
[2:40:50] about at
[2:40:51] the
[2:40:52] conclusion. Um, and then
[2:40:52] the
[2:40:52] open
[2:40:52] class
[2:40:53] division is
[2:40:53] sort
[2:40:54] like the
[2:40:55] general public
[2:40:55] can
[2:40:56] just participate, enter
[2:40:56] your
[2:40:57] quilts
[2:40:57] , enter
[2:40:59] your Legos
[2:41:00] , um,
[2:41:01] so there's just so many ways
[2:41:02] get involved
[2:41:03] . Uh
[2:41:03] , we talked
[2:41:04] about the fairs, so
[2:41:04] the fair on
[2:41:05] its own is a cause
[2:41:05] . So
[2:41:06] , um, you
[2:41:07] know, we are
[2:41:07] not
[2:41:08] , we have
[2:41:08] make
[2:41:10] our revenue
[2:41:10] , um, balanced
[2:41:11] with expenses
[2:41:12] , and that's goes
[2:41:14] , goes from a lot
[2:41:14] of um
[2:41:14] . You
[2:41:15] know, from
[2:41:16] the
[2:41:16] community,
[2:41:17] however
[2:41:18] , we received so
[2:41:19] much
[2:41:19] help that, you know
[2:41:20] , there's a
[2:41:21] certain amount that you have to
[2:41:22] give out back to and partner
[2:41:23] with people
[2:41:23] . So
[2:41:24] , um, one
[2:41:24] thing
[2:41:25] do is
[2:41:25] we stop the
[2:41:26] bus
[2:41:26] and
[2:41:26] it's
[2:41:27] with
[2:41:27] this is
[2:41:28] how
[2:41:28] many
[2:41:29] years? I don't know how
[2:41:29] many
[2:41:30] years now. Yeah
[2:41:31] , 56, something
[2:41:32] like
[2:41:32] that
[2:41:33] , uh, with the
[2:41:33] United
[2:41:33] Way
[2:41:34] Sketch County
[2:41:34] . So
[2:41:35] basically what we
[2:41:37] do is
[2:41:37] have
[2:41:38] people come and if
[2:41:38] they donate
[2:41:39] they donate
[2:41:40] diapers, they
[2:41:40] get them
[2:41:41] for
[2:41:41] free
[2:41:42] . Um
[2:41:43] , the
[2:41:43] United
[2:41:44] Way buys
[2:41:45] ticket packages
[2:41:46] from us at reduced
[2:41:46] rates
[2:41:46] , so
[2:41:46] they do the group ticket
[2:41:47] package rate, they find
[2:41:47] the
[2:41:48] sponsors and so
[2:41:48] , um, we
[2:41:48] are
[2:41:48] able
[2:41:50] to work with them on
[2:41:50] little
[2:41:51] lower price point there
[2:41:52] but they, they find
[2:41:52] the
[2:41:53] sponsors for that
[2:41:54] and then
[2:41:55] you
[2:41:55] um donate
[2:41:57] a package
[2:41:58] unopened
[2:41:59] diapers
[2:41:59] , you will get
[2:42:00] in for the fare for
[2:42:01] free and so
[2:42:01] it's it's been
[2:42:03] huge a
[2:42:03] really
[2:42:04] cool thing
[2:42:05] , um, and
[2:42:06] so we
[2:42:06] invite
[2:42:06] everyone to stuff the
[2:42:07] bus
[2:42:07] and
[2:42:08] that's Thursday
[2:42:08] from 10
[2:42:08] to 5
[2:42:09] and
[2:42:09] that's only
[2:42:10] at the
[2:42:12] Cleveland Parkgate
[2:42:12] , um, which
[2:42:13] is on the north end of
[2:42:13] the
[2:42:14] fairgrounds
[2:42:14] where the
[2:42:15] senior
[2:42:15] centers
[2:42:16] where the senior center
[2:42:17] groups park
[2:42:17] cars. Um, the
[2:42:18] livestock sale
[2:42:19] , um, is
[2:42:20] amazing thing. A lot of the
[2:42:21] money
[2:42:21] goes
[2:42:22] back to the kids.
[2:42:22] Most of
[2:42:23] the money goes back to
[2:42:24] the kids on
[2:42:24] that except
[2:42:25] the
[2:42:26] very
[2:42:27] small percentage
[2:42:28] , um, and
[2:42:28] so we do have
[2:42:29] a write up in
[2:42:29] this year's
[2:42:30] fair guide on it
[2:42:30] but there's a
[2:42:31] whole journey
[2:42:33] from, um, you know, starting
[2:42:34] the project
[2:42:35] and through the end
[2:42:35] of the sale
[2:42:35] and
[2:42:37] so I'm not
[2:42:38] gonna try and get into
[2:42:38] that. I
[2:42:38] think the best
[2:42:39] thing that a lot
[2:42:40] of people can
[2:42:42] , um, you
[2:42:42] know, talk to the kids at the
[2:42:43] fair
[2:42:44] because they're really
[2:42:44] interested in talking about
[2:42:45] their projects and so there's a
[2:42:45] lot
[2:42:47] really cool
[2:42:48] , um, stories
[2:42:48] behind
[2:42:49] it and
[2:42:50] I know
[2:42:51] there's
[2:42:51] never
[2:42:52] shortage of the
[2:42:52] need
[2:42:53] for buyers
[2:42:54] to pack
[2:42:54] , pack the
[2:42:56] uh, the
[2:42:56] stands Saturday
[2:42:57] , AUGUST
[2:42:57] 8th
[2:42:59] 10:00 A.M. Um
[2:42:59] , I
[2:43:00] think
[2:43:00] Francis had
[2:43:01] a tip, but maybe
[2:43:01] it's in
[2:43:02] the guide
[2:43:02] , but it's
[2:43:03] , uh
[2:43:03] be careful if you
[2:43:03] ' re
[2:43:04] raising
[2:43:04] your
[2:43:04] hand to
[2:43:05] scratch
[2:43:05] your
[2:43:05] nose
[2:43:06] or your hair when you're done
[2:43:06] because
[2:43:07] you might
[2:43:08] , you might
[2:43:09] a couple
[2:43:09] 1000 deep into an
[2:43:10] animal
[2:43:11] if you do
[2:43:11] that
[2:43:12] . So
[2:43:13] , um,
[2:43:14] the, we also have
[2:43:14] the canteen
[2:43:15] at the fair
[2:43:15] , so
[2:43:16] we partner
[2:43:17] , um,
[2:43:18] with
[2:43:18] nonprofit there
[2:43:21] , um, and
[2:43:22] , um, a portion of the
[2:43:23] proceeds go to the
[2:43:24] Kuwana
[2:43:25] Scholarship Fund. Um, so that
[2:43:26] is a really
[2:43:26] , a
[2:43:27] really cool
[2:43:28] partnership we
[2:43:28] have
[2:43:28] there
[2:43:29] , um,
[2:43:30] and then
[2:43:30] other things that
[2:43:31] that, you know
[2:43:33] , people
[2:43:34] providing services that
[2:43:34] basically they either keep the
[2:43:35] money or we give them a
[2:43:35] stipend
[2:43:36] to perform
[2:43:36] a service
[2:43:36] , but it's
[2:43:37] bas it's
[2:43:37] a fundraiser
[2:43:37] , Mount
[2:43:38] Vernon High School Music
[2:43:39] Booster Club. They run a
[2:43:39] parking
[2:43:41] lot
[2:43:41] , Mount
[2:43:42] Vernon
[2:43:43] Senior Center, and then
[2:43:43] I think
[2:43:44] the four organizations you see
[2:43:45] under there are kind of
[2:43:45] under
[2:43:45] the
[2:43:45] senior
[2:43:46] center
[2:43:46] umbrella
[2:43:47] , um,
[2:43:48] but that we're really happy
[2:43:49] support that, um
[2:43:50] . As well
[2:43:51] because I know the
[2:43:51] seniors are
[2:43:52] they're working really hard to
[2:43:53] raise money. Um
[2:43:54] , the
[2:43:54] , and then
[2:43:55] we have
[2:43:56] help with the garbage.
[2:43:56] We use the Mount for high
[2:43:57] school wrestling team
[2:43:58] , so that
[2:43:59] all goes back into
[2:44:00] their
[2:44:01] coffers, and they do, they do
[2:44:02] good work for us
[2:44:03] . Um
[2:44:03] , Ferry is
[2:44:05] all about the community, so we
[2:44:05] do have
[2:44:07] , um, a lot of
[2:44:08] community
[2:44:08] focused days
[2:44:09] , so
[2:44:10] we have on
[2:44:10] Thursday we have
[2:44:11] a family
[2:44:12] resource day so we have
[2:44:13] like
[2:44:14] organizations you can, it's
[2:44:15] little small on
[2:44:16] the screen
[2:44:16] there, but um they
[2:44:17] come
[2:44:17] together
[2:44:19] to have a theme day at
[2:44:19] the
[2:44:20] fair
[2:44:21] , so we do
[2:44:21] , um,
[2:44:22] Thursday and Friday, the
[2:44:22] fair
[2:44:23] from 10 to 4
[2:44:23] we have, we're
[2:44:24] able to get a lot
[2:44:25] of different
[2:44:26] organizations in there. So a
[2:44:26] lot of times when people are a
[2:44:27] vendor at the
[2:44:28] fair
[2:44:28] , they are
[2:44:29] required to be there all
[2:44:29] days
[2:44:30] 10 A.M. To
[2:44:31] 10 P.M.
[2:44:32] Um, we
[2:44:32] have
[2:44:33] operate that way, but we
[2:44:33] have been able to do
[2:44:34] couple
[2:44:35] community-focused days where we
[2:44:35] can get
[2:44:36] , um, like
[2:44:37] some public
[2:44:38] service agencies in there
[2:44:38] for 6
[2:44:39] hours
[2:44:39] , 1 day
[2:44:40] , you know
[2:44:40] , they,
[2:44:41] they
[2:44:41] do giveaways
[2:44:41] , they
[2:44:42] create
[2:44:44] entertainment
[2:44:44] value
[2:44:44] and um
[2:44:45] and
[2:44:46] that way there's not a barrier
[2:44:46] to participation because they
[2:44:47] can
[2:44:48] basically accomplish it all
[2:44:48] in in one
[2:44:49] workday in
[2:44:50] and out
[2:44:50] and we get a lot of
[2:44:51] cool things
[2:44:51] Um, so
[2:44:52] we also have the
[2:44:53] safety
[2:44:53] preparedness day
[2:44:55] . On
[2:44:55] Friday
[2:44:56] , um
[2:44:57] of the fair. You guys see we
[2:44:57] have a lot
[2:44:59] of participation
[2:44:59] from different
[2:44:59] , um, county
[2:45:00] agencies in here
[2:45:01] , especially on
[2:45:01] the
[2:45:02] safety
[2:45:02] preparedness Day
[2:45:03] , um
[2:45:04] so those are really
[2:45:04] cool
[2:45:05] things
[2:45:06] and then I'm
[2:45:07] jumping back
[2:45:07] Thursday
[2:45:08] , we kind
[2:45:08] of call
[2:45:09] sort
[2:45:10] our
[2:45:10] family
[2:45:11] fun opening
[2:45:11] day, but we have
[2:45:12] the
[2:45:13] Family
[2:45:13] Resource Day
[2:45:14] and then
[2:45:14] the
[2:45:15] diaper drive which you talked
[2:45:15] about
[2:45:16] and then
[2:45:16] we have
[2:45:17] baby
[2:45:17] racing
[2:45:18] the stage
[2:45:19] , um
[2:45:20] which I
[2:45:20] believe
[2:45:22] , um, I don't know if
[2:45:22] you've been informed,
[2:45:23] Commissioner Browning, but I
[2:45:24] think you're going to be there
[2:45:24] to drop
[2:45:24] the diaper
[2:45:26] . I will
[2:45:26] . The
[2:45:27] the, uh, yeah. I'm pretty
[2:45:27] excited about it
[2:45:28] . Yeah
[2:45:28] . Great
[2:45:29] for Trump. I don't know exactly
[2:45:29] what it's going to look like
[2:45:30] but the
[2:45:31] , um, Caps kbrc radio
[2:45:32] puts
[2:45:32] that
[2:45:34] , um, and
[2:45:34] there's
[2:45:35] huge prizes. I
[2:45:35] mean
[2:45:35] , we
[2:45:36] have
[2:45:36] like
[2:45:38] $1000 recliner for
[2:45:38] first place
[2:45:39] , 2nd place
[2:45:40] is like
[2:45:41] you know
[2:45:41] , I don't know. I
[2:45:41] think
[2:45:42] the other ones are close
[2:45:44] 1000. It's
[2:45:44] , it's like
[2:45:44] huge
[2:45:45] , um,
[2:45:45] like
[2:45:47] , so yeah
[2:45:47] , 6
[2:45:48] to 14 months
[2:45:48] If you, if
[2:45:49] you guys
[2:45:49] know
[2:45:50] anybody
[2:45:50] who's a crawler
[2:45:51] , they
[2:45:51] can't walk, 6 to
[2:45:52] 14 months
[2:45:52] , um,
[2:45:53] get him out on the stage. It
[2:45:54] doesn't cost to
[2:45:54] enter
[2:45:55] . Parents
[2:45:56] got to pay it again, that's it.
[2:45:56] So I mean, I
[2:45:57] , I
[2:45:57] , I've long
[2:45:58] said
[2:45:58] that prizes they get, like
[2:46:00] we've had good
[2:46:00] participation 20
[2:46:01] or so, babies. I guess there's
[2:46:01] only
[2:46:02] so many
[2:46:03] that
[2:46:03] demographic, but I mean
[2:46:04] , the
[2:46:04] prizes alone and that
[2:46:05] could
[2:46:06] change somebody
[2:46:07] , but it's
[2:46:07] , it's
[2:46:08] hilarious cause the
[2:46:08] babies
[2:46:09] don't always go in
[2:46:09] linear
[2:46:10] paths
[2:46:11] So, it's
[2:46:11] kind of a fun
[2:46:11] thing.
[2:46:12] So. What
[2:46:12] of a
[2:46:13] county employees
[2:46:14] child
[2:46:15] one, last year
[2:46:15] , the year
[2:46:16] before
[2:46:16] . Oh, it just
[2:46:17] totally
[2:46:17] rocked it
[2:46:17] . This kid was
[2:46:18] a stud
[2:46:19] It was
[2:46:19] , it
[2:46:20] was great. Well
[2:46:20] , and
[2:46:21] I think the good part of that
[2:46:21] is, is, you know
[2:46:22] Because if you
[2:46:23] get your
[2:46:24] baby training, you're
[2:46:25] gonna be able to kick back
[2:46:26] and
[2:46:27] you're going to be able to kick
[2:46:27] back in a
[2:46:28] nice
[2:46:30] recliner. For
[2:46:30] months
[2:46:31] . Tri your baby down
[2:46:32] Yeah baby back
[2:46:32] down. So
[2:46:33] , yeah
[2:46:36] Are they able to like throw a
[2:46:37] little food in front of them
[2:46:37] just
[2:46:38] keep
[2:46:40] moving or so the
[2:46:41] fair has, the fair has a lot
[2:46:43] programs outside of the fair as
[2:46:44] well. I mean, the, it's the
[2:46:45] whole ecosystem that feeds a
[2:46:46] fair, but we have worked with
[2:46:47] local
[2:46:47] libraries, the Read to
[2:46:48] Win
[2:46:49] . So basically
[2:46:50] they do a
[2:46:51] certain amount of reading
[2:46:51] . The
[2:46:52] library has the
[2:46:52] fare tickets
[2:46:53] and then it's
[2:46:53] the incentive
[2:46:53] that
[2:46:54] they get
[2:46:55] a ribbon
[2:46:55] and a
[2:46:56] fare ticket
[2:46:57] , um, to come
[2:46:58] to the
[2:46:58] fair
[2:46:59] . I will
[2:46:59] add as
[2:47:00] well that
[2:47:02] um we
[2:47:02] , we are
[2:47:03] open for more. We
[2:47:03] would love
[2:47:04] that
[2:47:04] fare
[2:47:05] tickets
[2:47:05] are used more as
[2:47:06] an incentive
[2:47:06] in businesses around Skagit
[2:47:07] County. So
[2:47:07] have
[2:47:08] group
[2:47:08] tickets promoted, but
[2:47:09] I've
[2:47:09] long
[2:47:10] wanted to
[2:47:10] expand
[2:47:11] that of
[2:47:11] , hey
[2:47:12] um, the auto
[2:47:14] repair shop, um,
[2:47:15] you know, you come to us
[2:47:15] whatever, you're
[2:47:16] going to get a
[2:47:16] free
[2:47:17] fare ticket
[2:47:17] . So I
[2:47:18] would
[2:47:19] encourage
[2:47:19] any
[2:47:20] businesses
[2:47:20] , um,
[2:47:21] instead of
[2:47:21] Yale given
[2:47:22] you could
[2:47:22] give a
[2:47:23] $10 off
[2:47:24] maybe
[2:47:24] consider
[2:47:25] buying a group
[2:47:25] of fare
[2:47:26] tickets which
[2:47:26] are discounted
[2:47:27] and kind of using that
[2:47:27] as an
[2:47:28] incentive
[2:47:28] . So we are
[2:47:29] always
[2:47:29] looking
[2:47:29] for
[2:47:31] those partnerships
[2:47:31] and stuff that
[2:47:33] can, we
[2:47:33] can
[2:47:34] work on, especially
[2:47:34] when we're
[2:47:35] not in JUNE and JULY, we can
[2:47:36] work on those in the offseason.
[2:47:37] So if anybody has any
[2:47:37] ideas
[2:47:37] there, um, we
[2:47:38] , we would love to
[2:47:39] talk
[2:47:42] . This
[2:47:43] another really
[2:47:43] cool thing, um
[2:47:44] the
[2:47:45] Blue
[2:47:45] Ribbon
[2:47:46] experience. So we've
[2:47:47] gotten
[2:47:48] sponsors to
[2:47:49] sponsor
[2:47:50] families
[2:47:51] for basically a really fun day
[2:47:52] the
[2:47:53] fair. Um
[2:47:53] , the
[2:47:53] fair, the
[2:47:54] fair
[2:47:54] honestly
[2:47:55] could be a very
[2:47:55] cheap
[2:47:56] , affordable experience
[2:47:57] , sometimes
[2:47:58] I will
[2:47:58] say that
[2:47:59] it does
[2:47:59] sometimes
[2:47:59] take
[2:48:00] self-control to do so
[2:48:00] . If you
[2:48:01] want to
[2:48:01] do all
[2:48:02] the things at
[2:48:02] the fair and the
[2:48:03] carnival and
[2:48:04] it does
[2:48:04] , it does
[2:48:05] cost money
[2:48:05] all the
[2:48:06] , all
[2:48:06] the
[2:48:06] individual
[2:48:07] businesses
[2:48:08] need to
[2:48:08] , um, you
[2:48:09] know
[2:48:09] , make the cut
[2:48:10] , but we
[2:48:11] have
[2:48:11] put
[2:48:11] together this
[2:48:12] really cool
[2:48:13] thing where
[2:48:13] a family
[2:48:14] can
[2:48:15] get
[2:48:15] nominated and they get g
[2:48:16] ate
[2:48:16] admission
[2:48:17] , uh, parking for
[2:48:18] carnival wristbands
[2:48:19] , $100 in
[2:48:20] fair food box, and
[2:48:21] then 4
[2:48:21] fair
[2:48:22] t-shirts, so the
[2:48:22] whole package,
[2:48:23] so we have
[2:48:23] local
[2:48:24] businesses
[2:48:25] sponsoring these. Um, I
[2:48:25] will
[2:48:25] put
[2:48:26] another plugin for this
[2:48:27] that I
[2:48:27] , we were trying
[2:48:28] to get
[2:48:28] families
[2:48:29] nominated by
[2:48:29] JULY 1st
[2:48:30] I will say
[2:48:30] that we
[2:48:31] , there's
[2:48:31] been flat out too
[2:48:32] busy and they
[2:48:32] have not been able to
[2:48:33] get
[2:48:33] the
[2:48:34] promotion out quite
[2:48:34] as wide as
[2:48:35] we have, so
[2:48:35] this is open
[2:48:36] for
[2:48:36] business
[2:48:36] . So if you
[2:48:37] guys
[2:48:37] know
[2:48:38] anybody
[2:48:39] , um, that we
[2:48:39] have
[2:48:40] nomination forms on
[2:48:41] our website
[2:48:41] and the
[2:48:42] , the
[2:48:42] radio station
[2:48:43] Caps
[2:48:43] kbrc is
[2:48:44] kind of coordinated
[2:48:44] but if you guys
[2:48:44] know
[2:48:45] anybody
[2:48:46] who's been a he
[2:48:47] ro or has gone
[2:48:47] through
[2:48:47] hard
[2:48:48] times or
[2:48:48] anything
[2:48:49] you want
[2:48:49] . There's
[2:48:49] nomination
[2:48:50] form, so
[2:48:51] . And they get
[2:48:51] surprised out
[2:48:53] of the
[2:48:53] blue with
[2:48:54] a really like you know
[2:48:55] , some
[2:48:55] people can't
[2:48:56] , they MAY be able
[2:48:56] to afford to come
[2:48:57] to the
[2:48:58] fair
[2:48:58] and eat
[2:49:00] one snack, but this is
[2:49:00] a really cool thing, so
[2:49:02] . Um,
[2:49:03] also, I will
[2:49:04] , uh, point out the
[2:49:05] Cascade Natural Gas is
[2:49:05] sponsored
[2:49:06] stuff through
[2:49:07] Community action. So we often
[2:49:09] act as the broker
[2:49:10] facilitator
[2:49:11] for charitable
[2:49:12] experiences, so we would love
[2:49:13] expand that
[2:49:14] . Um
[2:49:14] , I
[2:49:16] know
[2:49:16] we've so Cascade Natural Gas
[2:49:17] covered the tickets and then we
[2:49:18] gave them
[2:49:18] out to
[2:49:18] Community
[2:49:19] action
[2:49:19] because who are we
[2:49:20] , who
[2:49:20] are we to try and figure
[2:49:20] out
[2:49:21] the people who need it the most
[2:49:22] We're just
[2:49:22] the, we're just
[2:49:22] the
[2:49:23] facilitators, right? Give it
[2:49:24] right to
[2:49:25] the people who
[2:49:25] know
[2:49:25] how to
[2:49:26] get it
[2:49:27] to people in need
[2:49:27] but there's
[2:49:28] unlimited need
[2:49:29] for that. If
[2:49:30] we got
[2:49:30] if we
[2:49:31] got
[2:49:31] 1000 tickets, I
[2:49:32] guarantee you
[2:49:32] that we could find
[2:49:33] 1000
[2:49:34] things and I
[2:49:34] , um, I know we did
[2:49:34] get a
[2:49:35] state
[2:49:36] grant
[2:49:36] back during
[2:49:37] covid. It was sort of a little
[2:49:37] bit of
[2:49:38] a chance thing, but I
[2:49:39] did
[2:49:39] somehow
[2:49:40] get
[2:49:40] 3000 fare
[2:49:41] tickets out
[2:49:41] charitable
[2:49:42] organizations, and
[2:49:42] I still have
[2:49:43] that spreadsheet and I can tell
[2:49:44] you they were gone in
[2:49:45] heartbeat
[2:49:45] . So
[2:49:46] , um
[2:49:47] yeah
[2:49:47] , there's
[2:49:48] unlimited need for that
[2:49:51] . Ok
[2:49:52] The Fair
[2:49:52] entertainment this
[2:49:52] year. So some
[2:49:54] the
[2:49:54] um fun
[2:49:54] things. So
[2:49:55] we have
[2:49:56] , of course,
[2:49:56] lots of local bands
[2:49:59] , um, you
[2:49:59] know, we do
[2:49:59] pull like our, our
[2:50:00] magicians
[2:50:00] , our jugglers, these
[2:50:01] are people that do this
[2:50:02] professional year
[2:50:03] around. So
[2:50:03] these are people often we find
[2:50:05] our conventions
[2:50:05] in OCTOBER
[2:50:08] um, the sterling, the magician
[2:50:08] he's like
[2:50:10] , he performs on
[2:50:10] cruise ships the rest of the
[2:50:11] year
[2:50:12] , and
[2:50:12] , and
[2:50:13] Matt Henry, he's
[2:50:14] professional juggler
[2:50:15] . Um, I
[2:50:16] will point out
[2:50:16] a couple
[2:50:16] new
[2:50:17] things this
[2:50:17] year we have
[2:50:17] . There
[2:50:18] a new
[2:50:19] fun
[2:50:20] zone stage
[2:50:21] , um,
[2:50:21] going in
[2:50:23] , um, just, it'll be
[2:50:24] just
[2:50:26] , uh, west of
[2:50:26] the arena
[2:50:27] nope, east
[2:50:27] of the arena
[2:50:28] . But
[2:50:28] don't worry, we're going to
[2:50:29] have
[2:50:29] the
[2:50:30] backdrop nice and
[2:50:31] lined up so the sound
[2:50:32] is going
[2:50:32] to be
[2:50:32] going towards the
[2:50:33] uh main
[2:50:33] fairgrounds, but
[2:50:34] we have a
[2:50:35] stage that's gonna have 9
[2:50:35] daily
[2:50:35] shows
[2:50:37] , um, so that's a
[2:50:38] new thing
[2:50:39] , so that's actually
[2:50:39] gonna be like our
[2:50:40] 4th stage
[2:50:40] but it's
[2:50:41] the cutest show on
[2:50:42] Earth, the kids'
[2:50:42] pedal
[2:50:42] tractor
[2:50:43] going
[2:50:43] , uh, pulling
[2:50:44] the magic
[2:50:44] egg
[2:50:44] bean show
[2:50:45] . So those are
[2:50:46] that's
[2:50:46] something really new fun
[2:50:47] to watch
[2:50:48] . And then
[2:50:48] um we
[2:50:48] have a
[2:50:49] really cool
[2:50:50] thing with
[2:50:51] uh Wiiku
[2:50:51] and
[2:50:52] the
[2:50:52] Children's
[2:50:53] Museum, and
[2:50:53] they're gonna have like
[2:50:54] a huge
[2:50:55] kid zone
[2:50:56] , uh, and
[2:50:57] also
[2:50:58] incorporate like a money
[2:50:59] journey that we
[2:50:59] could put
[2:51:00] together. So it's again
[2:51:00] , like
[2:51:01] it's fun, but like
[2:51:01] they're
[2:51:02] literally starting education on
[2:51:02] financial
[2:51:03] literacy at a young
[2:51:04] age at the same
[2:51:04] time
[2:51:06] , so again
[2:51:07] I can, we
[2:51:08] are um so happy to
[2:51:09] have all these partners and
[2:51:09] it's another
[2:51:10] testament
[2:51:10] to the
[2:51:11] amount
[2:51:12] boxes
[2:51:13] that, well, I
[2:51:13] will push all of the
[2:51:14] credit
[2:51:15] outwards to the work that's
[2:51:15] done by all
[2:51:16] these
[2:51:16] individual
[2:51:16] people
[2:51:17] , the
[2:51:17] fair and
[2:51:18] the
[2:51:19] fairgrounds check so
[2:51:20] many
[2:51:20] boxes
[2:51:21] on, you
[2:51:21] know
[2:51:22] , what's under
[2:51:22] its
[2:51:22] umbrella
[2:51:23] , so we're
[2:51:23] really
[2:51:24] we're really uh
[2:51:26] excited
[2:51:26] for
[2:51:27] that, and that's across from
[2:51:27] the
[2:51:28] , gonna be across from the
[2:51:29] Vuelta La Luna Circus. So if
[2:51:29] you're out
[2:51:30] by the
[2:51:31] sheep barn
[2:51:31] just north of the
[2:51:31] carnival,
[2:51:32] we're
[2:51:33] gonna have the circus,
[2:51:34] which is there every year.
[2:51:34] We're gonna
[2:51:35] have the big
[2:51:35] kids
[2:51:35] zone
[2:51:36] across from it and the
[2:51:37] stage across
[2:51:37] from that
[2:51:38] . So
[2:51:38] , um,
[2:51:39] that'll be a new
[2:51:40] area to
[2:51:40] kind
[2:51:40] of check
[2:51:41] out this year
[2:51:42] . Some
[2:51:43] the favorites that are
[2:51:44] back, of
[2:51:44] course
[2:51:45] , the hypnotist, the
[2:51:45] circus, the
[2:51:46] diaper derby we
[2:51:47] talked about
[2:51:47] , ieing
[2:51:48] contests
[2:51:50] um, anybody can sign up for the
[2:51:51] pie contest to show up by the
[2:51:52] stage, um, and then cheer
[2:51:53] the Fair is always a good one
[2:51:54] with the high school
[2:51:55] cheerleading
[2:51:56] teams
[2:51:56] and we do
[2:51:58] piing contest and a
[2:51:58] spirit
[2:51:59] award as well, so
[2:51:59] that's always
[2:52:00] really
[2:52:01] fun thing
[2:52:01] to have back
[2:52:03] Um, I'm gonna go through pretty
[2:52:03] quick
[2:52:04] . We have a
[2:52:05] bustling
[2:52:05] main
[2:52:06] stage
[2:52:07] , um, entertainment
[2:52:08] schedule
[2:52:09] , um, we
[2:52:10] do have
[2:52:11] , um,
[2:52:12] a very
[2:52:12] large
[2:52:12] international
[2:52:13] artist
[2:52:14] , uh Latin
[2:52:14] entertainment
[2:52:14] artist named
[2:52:15] Larry Hernandez
[2:52:16] coming on Saturday night.
[2:52:16] That's always a
[2:52:17] huge draw
[2:52:18] . If
[2:52:18] you guys are near the main
[2:52:19] stage
[2:52:20] on Saturday night, it's,
[2:52:21] it's kind of a
[2:52:21] , a really
[2:52:22] cool
[2:52:23] thing to watch about how many
[2:52:24] people pack around the stage
[2:52:27] , again, you'll have to look
[2:52:27] this up in the fair guide will
[2:52:29] out later this month. And we
[2:52:30] have a
[2:52:31] community stage as well,
[2:52:32] which is out in the ball field
[2:52:34] It's a little more
[2:52:34] of a
[2:52:35] chill
[2:52:35] environment
[2:52:36] , um, in the
[2:52:36] food
[2:52:37] court
[2:52:37] . Um
[2:52:38] Monique Brigham, who
[2:52:39] many of you guys know
[2:52:40] , is the
[2:52:41] one who usually puts this
[2:52:41] together and
[2:52:43] , um, back
[2:52:45] the causes we do pay a small
[2:52:45] stipend for
[2:52:46] the organization if
[2:52:47] you have that and that in
[2:52:48] turn
[2:52:50] um, has gone to
[2:52:50] nonprofit
[2:52:51] typically of
[2:52:52] what Monique
[2:52:52] has
[2:52:52] chosen, and this
[2:52:53] year it's
[2:52:54] the
[2:52:54] swift Center
[2:52:55] , um, and
[2:52:56] so I
[2:52:58] um, am not as
[2:52:58] well
[2:52:59] versed
[2:52:59] exactly
[2:53:00] . Um
[2:53:01] the Swift Center
[2:53:02] but I
[2:53:03] know commissioners, you
[2:53:03] guys are very involved with
[2:53:04] that and
[2:53:05] , and
[2:53:05] so we were, we're
[2:53:06] always really excited when
[2:53:06] there's a new
[2:53:07] cause that
[2:53:08] comes
[2:53:08] along to, to go
[2:53:09] towards
[2:53:10] supporting
[2:53:10] so that
[2:53:12] will have
[2:53:13] mini acts daily and then of
[2:53:13] course
[2:53:14] our
[2:53:14] Latin entertainment
[2:53:15] stage, which is out in
[2:53:16] the
[2:53:16] carnival area
[2:53:17] , um, it's just a
[2:53:18] really cool thing
[2:53:18] you
[2:53:19] guys
[2:53:19] just
[2:53:20] , to go check
[2:53:21] out
[2:53:21] and
[2:53:23] whether
[2:53:24] you understand every
[2:53:26] word or not, it's like it's a
[2:53:26] beau, it's a really
[2:53:27] , it's a
[2:53:28] beautiful fact. It really is
[2:53:29] So there's a lot of
[2:53:29] time
[2:53:30] and
[2:53:30] energy
[2:53:30] and talent
[2:53:31] that goes
[2:53:31] into that
[2:53:32] . Uh putting all that
[2:53:35] Uh, we try to keep
[2:53:37] people
[2:53:37] comfy. We'll have the
[2:53:38] Thirstbuster back this year
[2:53:39] . Um
[2:53:40] and then
[2:53:41] the
[2:53:41] Kitty
[2:53:42] Corral area
[2:53:42] which we
[2:53:43] , um have and it's
[2:53:44] usually for 5 and
[2:53:44] under parents
[2:53:45] to go take
[2:53:46] load
[2:53:46] off
[2:53:47] and
[2:53:48] it's, it's a good thing
[2:53:48] because
[2:53:49] people don't leave the
[2:53:49] fair
[2:53:50] instead of leaving
[2:53:50] the fair
[2:53:51] they stay there, get comfy
[2:53:52] , and
[2:53:53] um, hang around
[2:53:55] . Um
[2:53:57] , um, again
[2:53:58] this is
[2:53:59] the sponsors of the
[2:53:59] fair are a
[2:54:00] huge thing. So
[2:54:01] again I can't
[2:54:02] give personal
[2:54:03] shoutouts, but you guys can see
[2:54:04] all of the
[2:54:06] incredible sponsors
[2:54:06] here
[2:54:08] , um, um, so we just
[2:54:08] , um,
[2:54:09] invite people to take
[2:54:11] a look at
[2:54:12] this when you're in there and
[2:54:12] just consider, you know, just
[2:54:13] just look at it and
[2:54:13] know who
[2:54:14] supports the
[2:54:15] fair. I
[2:54:15] know some
[2:54:16] of these people, this logo is
[2:54:16] going to show
[2:54:17] up 3
[2:54:18] different places in
[2:54:19] the fair
[2:54:20] because we have
[2:54:20] Barnes
[2:54:21] fundraising and
[2:54:21] , and
[2:54:22] , and they
[2:54:22] have their
[2:54:23] own sponsors and we
[2:54:23] have
[2:54:25] the livestock sales or
[2:54:26] some of these businesses you're
[2:54:26] gonna see their logo 3 and
[2:54:28] times
[2:54:28] and um I just want to
[2:54:29] give a huge
[2:54:29] shout out to
[2:54:30] them
[2:54:30] and
[2:54:31] um I will
[2:54:32] , we will
[2:54:32] send a
[2:54:33] a request
[2:54:33] in to
[2:54:34] the
[2:54:35] commissioners to consider if we
[2:54:36] can uh do a
[2:54:36] thank
[2:54:37] you
[2:54:38] as well
[2:54:39] So we'll send that to
[2:54:39] Amber to
[2:54:40] send that week of
[2:54:40] , but that's
[2:54:41] really, that's really
[2:54:41] cool.
[2:54:42] They
[2:54:42] hear from me
[2:54:43] , but when
[2:54:43] they
[2:54:44] hear from
[2:54:44] , um,
[2:54:45] commissioners
[2:54:45] and whatnot, it's
[2:54:46] it's really appreciated
[2:54:49] so to kind of wrap up this
[2:54:50] component
[2:54:51] , the
[2:54:51] keys are
[2:54:51] success
[2:54:52] year round
[2:54:52] . We appreciate
[2:54:53] the
[2:54:54] support from the
[2:54:54] county
[2:54:54] leadership
[2:54:55] , um, of
[2:54:56] the fair
[2:54:56] the
[2:54:56] active
[2:54:57] event calendar
[2:54:58] throughout
[2:54:58] the
[2:54:58] year
[2:55:00] , um, the
[2:55:01] immense amount of
[2:55:01] local
[2:55:01] businesses and
[2:55:02] partnerships
[2:55:03] , I
[2:55:03] highlighted the
[2:55:04] jail
[2:55:04] alternatives program. Um
[2:55:05] , you
[2:55:05] know
[2:55:06] , community participation
[2:55:07] there's a lot of things we
[2:55:07] talk
[2:55:08] about you can do on a
[2:55:09] deeper
[2:55:09] level
[2:55:09] , but
[2:55:10] not everyone
[2:55:10] has
[2:55:11] time
[2:55:12] energy
[2:55:12] or you're
[2:55:13] part
[2:55:14] causes and
[2:55:15] 20 boards, you
[2:55:15] know
[2:55:15] , but there
[2:55:16] are little
[2:55:16] things
[2:55:17] you can do. There
[2:55:17] have 4
[2:55:18] hour shifts at
[2:55:18] the fair
[2:55:19] to volunteer for
[2:55:21] Honestly
[2:55:21] , if
[2:55:21] you don't do anything else,
[2:55:22] just show up to the fair, pay
[2:55:23] your gate admission, walk
[2:55:23] around for
[2:55:23] two
[2:55:24] hours, talk
[2:55:24] two kids about
[2:55:25] their
[2:55:25] animals,
[2:55:26] grab an ice cream cone, go home
[2:55:27] That's sports fair, Easy
[2:55:29] . Ok
[2:55:30] , entering the fair
[2:55:31] , if
[2:55:32] you're the kind that's home on
[2:55:33] your
[2:55:34] , you know, you just
[2:55:34] want
[2:55:35] to knit
[2:55:36] , knit something while
[2:55:37] you're watching your favorite
[2:55:37] tv show
[2:55:38] . Throw it in the fair.
[2:55:39] It's not going to hurt if you
[2:55:39] don't win a
[2:55:40] ribbon, nothing
[2:55:40] hurt
[2:55:41] . Or
[2:55:41] you could come home
[2:55:41] with the blue
[2:55:43] , we're
[2:55:43] always
[2:55:44] actively seeking
[2:55:45] new
[2:55:45] opportunities for
[2:55:46] community
[2:55:46] involvement
[2:55:48] , um, the support
[2:55:48] from
[2:55:48] the ad
[2:55:49] advisory
[2:55:49] and
[2:55:50] foundation
[2:55:50] boards, the
[2:55:51] uh the
[2:55:52] dedication of all the
[2:55:52] staff
[2:55:53] volunteers
[2:55:53] , and I
[2:55:54] would really
[2:55:54] like to highlight
[2:55:55] the lack
[2:55:55] turnover
[2:55:56] in staff
[2:55:56] and
[2:55:57] volunteers is
[2:55:58] one of
[2:55:58] the
[2:55:59] biggest things
[2:55:59] that we that we
[2:56:01] have
[2:56:01] going, so
[2:56:02] , um, you guys
[2:56:03] if you, if you
[2:56:03] look
[2:56:04] the
[2:56:04] roster
[2:56:05] from the last
[2:56:06] many
[2:56:06] , many
[2:56:06] years, we do
[2:56:08] not have a lot
[2:56:08] turnover and
[2:56:10] that has been a
[2:56:11] huge key
[2:56:11] to our success, so
[2:56:12] we're
[2:56:12] trying to
[2:56:13] hold things
[2:56:13] together, you know, at all
[2:56:13] costs
[2:56:14] , and
[2:56:15] that goes down to
[2:56:15] the
[2:56:16] volunteers
[2:56:17] , the
[2:56:18] superintendents as well. We
[2:56:19] have a
[2:56:19] really
[2:56:20] good
[2:56:20] longevity
[2:56:21] with superintendents
[2:56:22] , um, and
[2:56:23] with that too
[2:56:23] , when we do
[2:56:23] have
[2:56:24] change
[2:56:25] , especially within
[2:56:26] there's
[2:56:26] a great
[2:56:27] line of
[2:56:28] succession
[2:56:28] planning
[2:56:29] because
[2:56:29] next
[2:56:29] thing you
[2:56:30] know
[2:56:30] , there's
[2:56:31] someone
[2:56:31] else ready to
[2:56:32] step up
[2:56:32] Um, and
[2:56:33] then again
[2:56:33] , what
[2:56:34] flexibility
[2:56:34] and
[2:56:35] excellent
[2:56:35] customer service. I mean,
[2:56:36] that's what we show to
[2:56:37] people
[2:56:37] and
[2:56:38] our customers, there's
[2:56:38] really
[2:56:39] , you
[2:56:39] can't
[2:56:40] , especially
[2:56:40] when you're working with
[2:56:42] discretionary funds
[2:56:43] and
[2:56:44] volunteers, you just there
[2:56:44] , you
[2:56:45] can't
[2:56:46] really
[2:56:46] draw
[2:56:47] uh sometimes
[2:56:48] black and white lines and you
[2:56:49] just have to kind of work
[2:56:49] with
[2:56:50] people. You
[2:56:50] need something
[2:56:52] P.M. That's
[2:56:53] when we got to do
[2:56:53] it, right
[2:56:53] ? Or you
[2:56:54] need to
[2:56:54] adapt
[2:56:55] you need
[2:56:55] to switch your day
[2:56:56] It's just what we got to
[2:56:57] . So
[2:56:59] um, those have been
[2:57:00] our
[2:57:00] keys.
[2:57:01] So we're gonna
[2:57:01] get on to
[2:57:02] the
[2:57:02] guest speakers here
[2:57:03] . So from
[2:57:03] the Beakows
[2:57:04] and Bill's Club, I
[2:57:04] want to call up
[2:57:05] Iris
[2:57:05] De Serrano
[2:57:14] Hi, my name
[2:57:15] is Ariiserrano, and
[2:57:16] I am a
[2:57:16] Skagitt
[2:57:17] County Forage
[2:57:18] member
[2:57:19] . 4h
[2:57:20] has
[2:57:21] provided
[2:57:22] mentorship from trusted adult
[2:57:23] leaders
[2:57:24] and
[2:57:24] has
[2:57:25] empowered
[2:57:26] me to
[2:57:27] take on
[2:57:30] important leadership
[2:57:30] roles
[2:57:31] . Through these roles
[2:57:31] , I
[2:57:31] have
[2:57:32] learned how
[2:57:33] speak
[2:57:33] publicly
[2:57:35] , gain responsibility
[2:57:36] and become
[2:57:37] a greater influence
[2:57:38] in my community
[2:57:40] . Do
[2:57:40] these
[2:57:41] skills that I have
[2:57:41] learned
[2:57:42] , I
[2:57:43] which I love
[2:57:43] practicing at fair
[2:57:47] I am now
[2:57:47] beyond ready for
[2:57:49] careers and life
[2:57:49] . The greatest
[2:57:51] challenge in my
[2:57:51] forage career
[2:57:52] so far
[2:57:53] has been
[2:57:54] latest
[2:57:54] presidency
[2:57:55] . Being
[2:57:56] PRESIDENT Of
[2:57:58] club
[2:57:58] helps me
[2:57:59] understand
[2:57:59] the steps that
[2:58:00] are taken
[2:58:01] order to make for
[2:58:01] more
[2:58:03] inclusive community for all
[2:58:05] . It
[2:58:07] has empowered me with the
[2:58:08] skills to lead for
[2:58:09] a lifetime
[2:58:10] After having chickens
[2:58:11] for
[2:58:12] while, my mom
[2:58:12] and I decided
[2:58:14] try 4h
[2:58:15] . Do
[2:58:16] you trusted adult
[2:58:17] leaders, I was able to
[2:58:18] build
[2:58:19] positive relationships with
[2:58:19] other youth
[2:58:20] and
[2:58:21] create memories
[2:58:21] at events such as the fair
[2:58:25] . I
[2:58:25] am glad that I
[2:58:26] was one
[2:58:27] the
[2:58:28] million youth
[2:58:29] that forage has
[2:58:30] reached throughout our country
[2:58:37] 4h is important to
[2:58:38] our
[2:58:39] communities because of the
[2:58:40] large
[2:58:40] impact
[2:58:41] they
[2:58:41] edit
[2:58:41] has
[2:58:43] today's youth
[2:58:43] . I've
[2:58:44] seen
[2:58:45] everyday
[2:58:46] kids
[2:58:47] grow
[2:58:47] into
[2:58:48] passionate individuals who are
[2:58:49] hungry to
[2:58:50] learn and
[2:58:50] ready to
[2:58:50] take on
[2:58:51] the world
[2:58:53] . 4h
[2:58:53] empowers
[2:58:54] kids to make the
[2:58:55] best better,
[2:58:55] pushing them to
[2:58:56] always try
[2:58:57] harder and to never
[2:58:58] give up
[2:58:59] Fortunes are also
[2:59:00] 3 times
[2:59:01] more
[2:59:01] likely to
[2:59:02] participate
[2:59:04] community involvement. That
[2:59:05] could mean
[2:59:05] picking
[2:59:06] up trash
[2:59:06] showing
[2:59:07] up fare
[2:59:08] , or
[2:59:08] even having
[2:59:09] a fundraiser for a
[2:59:10] local club
[2:59:11] Forage
[2:59:11] helps
[2:59:12] enjoy giving
[2:59:13] back to
[2:59:13] our communities
[2:59:15] . Some
[2:59:15] friendships
[2:59:16] and connections
[2:59:17] I've made in
[2:59:19] are
[2:59:19] with other
[2:59:20] members
[2:59:21] , leaders
[2:59:21] , or
[2:59:21] breeders
[2:59:22] my animal
[2:59:23] . Most
[2:59:24] these
[2:59:24] connections were made
[2:59:27] forge-related events. For
[2:59:28] example
[2:59:28] , when I was a member of
[2:59:29] the Ad
[2:59:30] Career
[2:59:31] Ambassadors, I
[2:59:31] was
[2:59:32] able to go to
[2:59:32] the
[2:59:32] Watcombe
[2:59:33] Career Fair and
[2:59:33] the Country
[2:59:35] Living
[2:59:35] Expo
[2:59:36] . At these
[2:59:36] events
[2:59:36] , I
[2:59:37] explained to people
[2:59:37] what
[2:59:39] was
[2:59:39] and
[2:59:40] the
[2:59:40] positive outcomes
[2:59:41] joining
[2:59:42] . Although other events
[2:59:43] are fun
[2:59:44] , almost
[2:59:44] all of
[2:59:45] favorite forage
[2:59:46] memories happen
[2:59:46] the fair
[2:59:47] . I love
[2:59:47] the
[2:59:48] thrill
[2:59:49] of showing
[2:59:50] animal
[2:59:51] and being
[2:59:51] able to
[2:59:52] connect
[2:59:52] with people
[2:59:53] from numerous backgrounds
[2:59:55] . The
[2:59:56] the fair is a
[2:59:57] truly
[2:59:57] inspiring
[2:59:58] experience, and it is
[2:59:59] the
[2:59:59] highlight of
[3:00:00] my forage here
[3:00:04] . 4h
[3:00:05] our
[3:00:05] nation's largest
[3:00:11] youth
[3:00:11] developmental organization
[3:00:13] . It
[3:00:13] has
[3:00:14] supplied
[3:00:16] family
[3:00:16] with a
[3:00:18] interactive environment for all
[3:00:22] Through 4h, we
[3:00:22] have
[3:00:23] learned
[3:00:24] how
[3:00:24] to speak
[3:00:25] publicly
[3:00:25] and
[3:00:25] act
[3:00:25] confident
[3:00:27] . Before we joined
[3:00:28] , my
[3:00:29] siblings used to be very shy,
[3:00:30] but now they can carry
[3:00:32] conversation conversation
[3:00:33] with
[3:00:34] just about anyone
[3:00:34] , especially
[3:00:34] at fair
[3:00:37] . 4h has
[3:00:38] made
[3:00:38] a large
[3:00:39] impact on my
[3:00:40] family's life
[3:00:40] . It
[3:00:42] big
[3:00:43] part of
[3:00:44] our day to day
[3:00:45] livelihood
[3:00:47] Thank you
[3:00:57] Hello
[3:00:58] I'm
[3:00:59] Louise
[3:00:59] Deerrano. I'm
[3:01:00] current
[3:01:01] leader and I
[3:01:03] lead poultry
[3:01:04] which makes me
[3:01:05] very excited
[3:01:06] about this year's
[3:01:06] theme for
[3:01:06] the
[3:01:06] fair
[3:01:08] . So my
[3:01:10] experience with
[3:01:10] started 6
[3:01:11] years
[3:01:12] ago
[3:01:12] as a
[3:01:12] parent
[3:01:14] a 4Her
[3:01:14] and a
[3:01:14] few years
[3:01:15] later
[3:01:17] uh an opening to be the
[3:01:19] poultry
[3:01:19] leader happened and
[3:01:21] just gladly jumped into that
[3:01:22] position
[3:01:22] . It
[3:01:23] has been a goal
[3:01:24] mine
[3:01:25] provide thorough
[3:01:26] and
[3:01:26] accurate information
[3:01:27] for all of
[3:01:28] the kids that I
[3:01:28] lead
[3:01:29] to succeed
[3:01:30] the project
[3:01:31] . One
[3:01:32] the
[3:01:32] joys
[3:01:34] being a
[3:01:34] leader has
[3:01:35] been
[3:01:35] watching kids who
[3:01:36] are
[3:01:37] extremely
[3:01:38] shy to the point where they
[3:01:39] don't even want to talk
[3:01:40] anyone outside
[3:01:41] their family
[3:01:42] actually be able to not
[3:01:43] only
[3:01:44] gain confidence to speak to me
[3:01:45] but to speak
[3:01:46] the public
[3:01:48] . I
[3:01:48] love
[3:01:49] watching
[3:01:50] kids do
[3:01:50] their
[3:01:53] showmanship competitions where
[3:01:53] they
[3:01:53] can talk
[3:01:54] and interact
[3:01:55] with
[3:01:55] the
[3:01:56] judge and share all of
[3:01:56] the
[3:01:57] knowledge that they
[3:01:57] have gained
[3:02:00] Some
[3:02:01] the
[3:02:02] relationships
[3:02:02] that
[3:02:02] I've
[3:02:04] , uh, developed with
[3:02:04] these
[3:02:04] members and their
[3:02:05] families
[3:02:06] are
[3:02:06] lasting. And I look
[3:02:07] forward to
[3:02:08] many
[3:02:08] years
[3:02:09] come
[3:02:11] fair-going memories
[3:02:12] . At the
[3:02:12] fair
[3:02:13] , the youth
[3:02:15] tend
[3:02:15] to bond
[3:02:16] very
[3:02:16] closely and have
[3:02:17] a feeling
[3:02:18] belonging
[3:02:18] and family
[3:02:20] . The
[3:02:20] thing
[3:02:21] I love
[3:02:22] about
[3:02:22] that
[3:02:24] takes
[3:02:24] kids
[3:02:25] from
[3:02:26] diverse
[3:02:26] groups, whether it
[3:02:27] be urban
[3:02:29] rural, and they
[3:02:29] can work
[3:02:29] together on
[3:02:30] the same
[3:02:31] project
[3:02:31] and learn
[3:02:32] from each other
[3:02:35] There's always
[3:02:35] room
[3:02:35] for growth
[3:02:36] and leadership
[3:02:37] in 4h
[3:02:37] , and
[3:02:38] kids
[3:02:38] are
[3:02:40] always encouraged to push a
[3:02:40] little
[3:02:40] bit
[3:02:41] harder to learn
[3:02:44] . I
[3:02:44] stand behind what
[3:02:45] the
[3:02:46] clover
[3:02:47] represents
[3:02:47] , heart
[3:02:49] , loving
[3:02:49] and
[3:02:49] caring for each other
[3:02:51] encouraging
[3:02:51] each other
[3:02:53] . Hands
[3:02:54] working and helping
[3:02:54] each
[3:02:54] other
[3:02:55] out
[3:02:56] . He
[3:02:57] thinking through
[3:02:58] different scenarios and coming
[3:02:58] with
[3:02:59] solutions
[3:03:00] and health
[3:03:00] living
[3:03:01] healthy
[3:03:02] lifestyle
[3:03:02] and
[3:03:03] demonstrating what that looks
[3:03:03] like
[3:03:04] to others
[3:03:05] . It makes
[3:03:06] me so
[3:03:07] proud watching
[3:03:07] these
[3:03:09] kids
[3:03:10] really shine when
[3:03:11] they're able
[3:03:11] to talk to
[3:03:12] the public
[3:03:12] about
[3:03:12] their
[3:03:13] projects that
[3:03:14] they've
[3:03:15] worked throughout their whole
[3:03:16] year
[3:03:16] , and
[3:03:17] they
[3:03:18] will gladly
[3:03:19] show
[3:03:19] their
[3:03:20] animal to
[3:03:20] folks at
[3:03:21] the
[3:03:21] fair and
[3:03:22] the
[3:03:22] educational
[3:03:23] posters that
[3:03:23] they've
[3:03:24] made just
[3:03:25] to teach
[3:03:25] people
[3:03:26] who've maybe
[3:03:27] never been
[3:03:27] around animals
[3:03:27] , what
[3:03:28] it's like
[3:03:29] . Uh
[3:03:30] , I
[3:03:31] would
[3:03:32] gladly
[3:03:32] support
[3:03:33] continuing
[3:03:34] this legacy
[3:03:36] um, all the
[3:03:36] positive
[3:03:37] fairgoing
[3:03:39] memories
[3:03:39] and just
[3:03:39] the
[3:03:41] foundation that 4h
[3:03:41] gives
[3:03:42] kids
[3:03:42] for
[3:03:43] life
[3:03:43] , for
[3:03:43] the
[3:03:45] current
[3:03:45] 4Hers
[3:03:46] for
[3:03:46] tomorrow's
[3:03:47] 4Hers
[3:03:47] and
[3:03:48] tomorrow's leaders
[3:03:49] . So thank
[3:03:50] you
[3:03:50] Thank you
[3:03:56] Thanks
[3:03:57] , Louise.
[3:03:58] , so just
[3:03:59] , uh, a few comments
[3:03:59] I had
[3:03:59] . Um
[3:04:00] , I
[3:04:01] won upfront
[3:04:01] , I
[3:04:01] did
[3:04:02] MISS
[3:04:03] Out on
[3:04:04] , um, introducing
[3:04:04] Ashley Sis
[3:04:05] , who's our
[3:04:05] new
[3:04:06] program coordinator
[3:04:08] . So
[3:04:08] she is
[3:04:09] on board for her first
[3:04:10] fare, so
[3:04:10] it will
[3:04:12] , uh, undoubtedly be a
[3:04:13] very
[3:04:14] immersive
[3:04:15] experience
[3:04:15] . It's
[3:04:16] a jump
[3:04:16] in for the
[3:04:16] , the
[3:04:17] fair
[3:04:18] bath
[3:04:18] . Um
[3:04:19] , and then I
[3:04:19] , I just
[3:04:19] wanted
[3:04:20] to highlight
[3:04:20] a few
[3:04:20] other
[3:04:21] things
[3:04:22] , um, you
[3:04:22] know
[3:04:23] , the
[3:04:24] connectivity between the fair
[3:04:25] and
[3:04:25] 4h and and
[3:04:26] how
[3:04:26] cohesive
[3:04:27] they are. So
[3:04:28] the, you know
[3:04:28] , the
[3:04:29] 4h program is really paramount
[3:04:29] to the
[3:04:30] year around
[3:04:32] , um, the
[3:04:33] mentorship, the learning, so a
[3:04:33] lot of that
[3:04:33] stuff happens if
[3:04:34] they
[3:04:35] don't have
[3:04:36] this 12-year,
[3:04:37] month support
[3:04:37] , they can't
[3:04:37] show up to fair and
[3:04:38] what
[3:04:39] they do
[3:04:39] . Also
[3:04:40] , without
[3:04:40] the fare
[3:04:41] you don't
[3:04:42] have what I
[3:04:42] , I always
[3:04:44] playfully referred to
[3:04:44] as the
[3:04:44] Super Bowl, right
[3:04:45] ? So
[3:04:45] without
[3:04:46] that fare
[3:04:46] there
[3:04:46] , the
[3:04:47] bright
[3:04:47] lights and all
[3:04:48] the
[3:04:49] infrastructure that comes with
[3:04:49] the
[3:04:49] fair and even
[3:04:50] the fun
[3:04:50] that
[3:04:51] happens outside the fair, right
[3:04:52] ? The
[3:04:52] kids they think, oh
[3:04:53] , it's
[3:04:54] 8 P.M. I
[3:04:54] got to go on
[3:04:55] the
[3:04:55] carnival rides
[3:04:55] . That's what
[3:04:56] the
[3:04:56] memories are made
[3:04:57] . So it's
[3:04:58] we can't
[3:04:59] , the fair
[3:05:00] forage
[3:05:00] really can't
[3:05:00] shine without that
[3:05:01] big
[3:05:01] event there
[3:05:02] and some of
[3:05:03] the
[3:05:03] infrastructure that the fair
[3:05:04] provides, but we also
[3:05:05] can't
[3:05:05] have kids just showing up
[3:05:06] the
[3:05:06] fair
[3:05:06] . And
[3:05:07] trying to do things,
[3:05:07] right
[3:05:08] ? So it's that
[3:05:09] , it's that
[3:05:09] they're
[3:05:10] all connected, right
[3:05:11] , um, the
[3:05:12] other
[3:05:12] comment I
[3:05:13] have, and I
[3:05:13] , I do want
[3:05:14] include ffa and
[3:05:15] that ffa
[3:05:15] tends
[3:05:16] be very involved
[3:05:17] , but they
[3:05:17] are
[3:05:18] a school-based
[3:05:18] program and
[3:05:19] so that
[3:05:20] absolutely they show up
[3:05:20] at the
[3:05:20] fair and in
[3:05:21] full steam
[3:05:22] but some of
[3:05:23] them might take
[3:05:23] little
[3:05:23] time
[3:05:24] off
[3:05:25] , um, this, you
[3:05:25] know
[3:05:26] , this time
[3:05:26] of year
[3:05:28] , but I
[3:05:30] um, have
[3:05:30] received
[3:05:30] enough
[3:05:31] information, even though I
[3:05:32] might be
[3:05:33] slightly biased
[3:05:34] , um,
[3:05:34] that our
[3:05:34] fair
[3:05:35] exhibitors are
[3:05:36] world class when
[3:05:36] it comes
[3:05:37] their
[3:05:38] then we
[3:05:38] , when we
[3:05:39] have
[3:05:40] fair commissioners
[3:05:40] , their
[3:05:41] engagement level with
[3:05:41] the
[3:05:42] public, how
[3:05:42] tidy their
[3:05:42] barns
[3:05:43] are and the work they do. And
[3:05:43] again, I, this is
[3:05:44] not coming
[3:05:45] from me because
[3:05:45] I think
[3:05:45] that,
[3:05:46] but I
[3:05:46] also
[3:05:46] have
[3:05:47] not
[3:05:48] necessarily bend every
[3:05:49] fare, be
[3:05:49] a management and other fare
[3:05:50] but
[3:05:50] I consistently get
[3:05:51] this
[3:05:51] , um
[3:05:52] I got this from Francis
[3:05:52] , our
[3:05:53] assistant manager who's worked
[3:05:54] at 3 fairgrounds. We
[3:05:54] get this
[3:05:54] from
[3:05:54] fair
[3:05:55] commissioners
[3:05:55] at the
[3:05:56] exhibitors here
[3:05:57] are world
[3:05:57] class
[3:05:59] there's obviously
[3:06:00] testament to
[3:06:01] the kids
[3:06:02] who are
[3:06:02] here
[3:06:02] , but this
[3:06:03] is something
[3:06:04] I've
[3:06:05] consistently
[3:06:05] heard
[3:06:06] over
[3:06:06] decades
[3:06:07] and so a
[3:06:07] lot of
[3:06:08] credit
[3:06:08] goes to
[3:06:09] the youth, but a
[3:06:09] lot of
[3:06:09] that too
[3:06:10] is the leaders, the
[3:06:11] ffa advisors
[3:06:12] , the
[3:06:12] former 4h
[3:06:13] program coordinators and
[3:06:13] leaders because they're the
[3:06:14] ones that are holding that
[3:06:15] together and keeping that going
[3:06:15] So some of these people that
[3:06:16] have been around for
[3:06:17] 30 years
[3:06:18] and you've seen that
[3:06:18] same
[3:06:19] quality that's, that's
[3:06:19] , it's
[3:06:19] them
[3:06:19] that
[3:06:20] deserves
[3:06:21] the
[3:06:21] um shout
[3:06:21] out
[3:06:23] . So I just wanted
[3:06:23] to give
[3:06:24] few
[3:06:25] of those
[3:06:26] , um, thoughts
[3:06:27] , um,
[3:06:27] and then on that note too
[3:06:28] , I
[3:06:28] just, if you
[3:06:29] guys are at the
[3:06:29] fair, just
[3:06:29] go talk
[3:06:30] , talk to
[3:06:30] some of
[3:06:30] the
[3:06:32] exhibitors
[3:06:32] and
[3:06:32] you'll
[3:06:33] learn all sorts
[3:06:33] of fun
[3:06:34] facts
[3:06:35] There's posters and
[3:06:36] you'll learn things you never
[3:06:37] thought you needed
[3:06:37] to know
[3:06:39] . Um
[3:06:40] so I'm gonna leave this
[3:06:40] slide
[3:06:41] up, but this is just yours fair
[3:06:41] This is how to get a hold
[3:06:43] of us
[3:06:44] um, our social
[3:06:45] media
[3:06:45] pages and
[3:06:46] I'm gonna turn over to
[3:06:48] commissioners
[3:06:48] for final
[3:06:48] comments
[3:06:50] . Thank you very much,
[3:06:50] Eric
[3:06:52] . Really appreciate the
[3:06:52] the
[3:06:52] presentation and thank
[3:06:53] you for
[3:06:54] the
[3:06:54] 4h leaders
[3:06:55] and the
[3:06:55] members
[3:06:56] that
[3:06:56] came in
[3:06:57] here today
[3:06:57] , we do
[3:06:58] always
[3:06:58] appreciate that
[3:06:59] , uh,
[3:06:59] having
[3:06:59] a chance to come in
[3:07:00] front of the
[3:07:00] county
[3:07:01] commissioners
[3:07:01] . Commissioner
[3:07:02] Burns, do you have
[3:07:03] any comments
[3:07:04] any thoughts
[3:07:04] ? I think
[3:07:05] what
[3:07:06] you all have been doing
[3:07:06] awesome, that it's
[3:07:08] , uh, it's
[3:07:08] self-funded, it's
[3:07:09] even better
[3:07:10] for
[3:07:11] , um, but I
[3:07:12] appreciate
[3:07:13] the programs and
[3:07:13] the
[3:07:13] opportunities for kids
[3:07:15] especially
[3:07:15] , and
[3:07:15] to learn
[3:07:16] new
[3:07:17] skills
[3:07:17] , learn
[3:07:17] about some
[3:07:18] life
[3:07:18] lessons
[3:07:19] along
[3:07:19] the way
[3:07:20] , and I
[3:07:20] think it also
[3:07:21] helps you
[3:07:21] with
[3:07:22] finance
[3:07:22] because you
[3:07:22] , you have
[3:07:23] think about
[3:07:23] the feed for
[3:07:24] the
[3:07:25] animals and the
[3:07:25] care and all
[3:07:26] the things
[3:07:26] that go into
[3:07:27] . And
[3:07:30] , uh, all around
[3:07:30] , a lot
[3:07:31] great
[3:07:32] things going on at the
[3:07:32] fairgrounds
[3:07:33] , so
[3:07:33] I appreciate
[3:07:34] you and the staff that helped
[3:07:34] make it work. We look forward
[3:07:35] to having you out
[3:07:35] for your
[3:07:36] first fair. There's
[3:07:36] some
[3:07:38] judging responsibilities, so no
[3:07:38] pressure. Sounds
[3:07:39] good. I
[3:07:39] saw
[3:07:40] it's already on the
[3:07:40] calendar.
[3:07:40] Yep. Um
[3:07:42] . Commissioner Browning
[3:07:43] any
[3:07:44] comments? Well, yeah
[3:07:44] , I, I
[3:07:45] was both
[3:07:45] an ffa
[3:07:46] and
[3:07:46] a 4h kit.
[3:07:46] If you had
[3:07:47] to ask me which
[3:07:48] like
[3:07:48] better
[3:07:49] , the
[3:07:49] mothers were
[3:07:50] better cooks of
[3:07:51] baked goods
[3:07:51] and
[3:07:51] cookies in the 4h and
[3:07:53] FFAs
[3:07:53] . So
[3:07:54] clearly always
[3:07:55] , always
[3:07:56] a forest
[3:07:56] Yeah, I just
[3:07:57] , it
[3:07:58] was great
[3:07:58] . Um
[3:07:59] Irish
[3:08:00] , nice
[3:08:00] job talking
[3:08:00] . That
[3:08:01] was
[3:08:01] great
[3:08:01] . That
[3:08:02] was
[3:08:03] just great
[3:08:03] And Louise
[3:08:04] , thank
[3:08:04] you for
[3:08:04] being
[3:08:05] charge
[3:08:06] of that group
[3:08:06] , and
[3:08:06] it's
[3:08:07] really great
[3:08:08] . Ashley,
[3:08:09] welcome
[3:08:09] . It's so
[3:08:10] nice to have
[3:08:10] you here
[3:08:11] , but
[3:08:12] , uh, yeah, the
[3:08:12] the
[3:08:13] fairs are just
[3:08:13] a riot
[3:08:14] They're so much fun and I have
[3:08:15] long
[3:08:15] history of, of
[3:08:15] going to
[3:08:16] fairs and meeting new friends,
[3:08:17] having a good time, and just
[3:08:18] having one of the best parts of
[3:08:18] the summer
[3:08:19] . So
[3:08:20] enjoy
[3:08:20] yourself
[3:08:20] in 2 weeks
[3:08:21] , 3
[3:08:22] , almost a month
[3:08:23] Something like that, yeah
[3:08:24] . I'll
[3:08:24] be there. I can use all the
[3:08:25] time we can get, so
[3:08:26] , and I
[3:08:27] get to judge
[3:08:27] the
[3:08:27] 4h this year
[3:08:29] So, if you see me
[3:08:29] around, just
[3:08:30] be really nice so
[3:08:31] you can make
[3:08:32] want to
[3:08:33] make yours
[3:08:33] the best
[3:08:34] of display. Is that
[3:08:36] right
[3:08:36] right
[3:08:37] All right. So
[3:08:38] thank
[3:08:38] you. Yeah
[3:08:39] thank you very much
[3:08:40] . Uh, I
[3:08:40] was
[3:08:41] in 4h
[3:08:41] and ffa
[3:08:42] years ago
[3:08:42] and
[3:08:43] really
[3:08:43] uh definitely
[3:08:44] enjoyed
[3:08:45] the fair
[3:08:45] was
[3:08:46] thinking
[3:08:47] the
[3:08:47] first
[3:08:47] animal I showed
[3:08:48] , I think
[3:08:49] was 1970. I was
[3:08:50] Scotch
[3:08:50] County Fair
[3:08:51] , so it's
[3:08:52] 56 years
[3:08:53] or something
[3:08:54] . So, uh, it'
[3:08:55] great event, a lot
[3:08:55] of good
[3:08:56] friends and everything are able
[3:08:57] come together and
[3:08:58] all the
[3:08:58] good
[3:08:59] volunteers and all the
[3:09:00] parents
[3:09:01] and um all the kids.
[3:09:01] It's, it's
[3:09:02] really a good event
[3:09:03] i'm really
[3:09:04] , uh, I appreciate
[3:09:04] all
[3:09:04] the time
[3:09:05] and
[3:09:05] effort. Um
[3:09:07] , we
[3:09:07] have
[3:09:08] a dog
[3:09:08] training
[3:09:09] facility at
[3:09:09] our
[3:09:09] home
[3:09:10] and
[3:09:11] um definitely
[3:09:11] the
[3:09:12] 4h Club comes and uses
[3:09:13] it every
[3:09:13] week
[3:09:13] and so forth
[3:09:14] , and we
[3:09:16] definitely support the kids and
[3:09:17] all the things they do. My wife
[3:09:19] was really involved in forage
[3:09:21] Down in California and so
[3:09:21] uh we
[3:09:23] definitely appreciate all what
[3:09:23] 4h has done over the
[3:09:25] years and
[3:09:26] um, it's a great program, so
[3:09:28] hope you enjoy it and, and
[3:09:29] , uh,
[3:09:30] come back many, many years in
[3:09:31] the future
[3:09:34] . I
[3:09:34] want to ask a
[3:09:34] question on the
[3:09:36] facilities. How
[3:09:37] are they doing? Are they
[3:09:38] , now
[3:09:38] we have a
[3:09:39] facility
[3:09:39] manager in
[3:09:39] charge of the
[3:09:41] fair grounds. I
[3:09:41] don't know if Ken's gone
[3:09:41] through
[3:09:43] , but do you have any?
[3:09:43] Yeah, I
[3:09:44] think you
[3:09:44] , you
[3:09:45] mentioned some projects you had
[3:09:46] going on and parking lot
[3:09:47] Yeah,
[3:09:48] I mean, we've
[3:09:48] we've, um, I mean
[3:09:50] we've, I mean
[3:09:50] we've
[3:09:52] done a lot
[3:09:52] try and, and, and
[3:09:53] , you know
[3:09:54] move away from deferred
[3:09:55] maintenance. It definitely
[3:09:56] had
[3:09:56] had gone into a phase there,
[3:09:57] but we are
[3:09:57] making
[3:09:58] big
[3:09:59] strides
[3:10:00] um, I see a new a
[3:10:01] new
[3:10:01] restroom
[3:10:01] facility was a
[3:10:02] huge thing
[3:10:04] . I
[3:10:04] think with the
[3:10:05] , if
[3:10:05] the wsda
[3:10:06] grants were able to make some
[3:10:08] ground, right, with
[3:10:08] the
[3:10:08] paving
[3:10:09] project
[3:10:10] , um, a
[3:10:11] lot of
[3:10:11] that is
[3:10:12] those are pretty high
[3:10:12] value
[3:10:12] projects so I
[3:10:13] mean we
[3:10:13] , we're
[3:10:14] keeping up with it. I
[3:10:14] think the
[3:10:15] other thing is
[3:10:15] that you know
[3:10:17] 2023 we were able to put
[3:10:17] the
[3:10:18] funding together for
[3:10:19] year-round
[3:10:19] maintenance person
[3:10:20] um at
[3:10:20] the fairgrounds
[3:10:20] , so we
[3:10:21] have
[3:10:22] that
[3:10:23] . We've been able to
[3:10:24] do a lot of things behind the
[3:10:24] scenes
[3:10:26] that as well. So
[3:10:28] , um,
[3:10:29] , yeah, we have a lot of
[3:10:29] things
[3:10:30] in this grant. I
[3:10:31] honestly for our
[3:10:31] next grant
[3:10:31] cycle
[3:10:32] , I
[3:10:32] don't
[3:10:33] have anything
[3:10:33] that's
[3:10:35] , uh, that's glaring
[3:10:35] right now
[3:10:35] at me for
[3:10:36] , for doing
[3:10:36] that, but we
[3:10:37] will definitely
[3:10:38] take advantage of it if there's
[3:10:38] state
[3:10:39] funds available, but I
[3:10:39] think
[3:10:40] are
[3:10:41] , um, looking good
[3:10:43] I know though that
[3:10:44] there's
[3:10:45] always room
[3:10:46] for more
[3:10:46] , and some
[3:10:47] of that goes out to the clubs
[3:10:48] too. I
[3:10:48] know that
[3:10:49] the 4h
[3:10:50] group
[3:10:52] , um, fundraising for
[3:10:52] tractor
[3:10:53] right now to help
[3:10:53] with
[3:10:54] the arena. So there, there's
[3:10:54] always more needs
[3:10:55] , um, but we
[3:10:55] are, we're pretty
[3:10:57] proud of
[3:10:57] , of
[3:10:58] of where we're at right now
[3:10:59] . Um
[3:11:00] but we, we do try
[3:11:00] and take
[3:11:01] everything on
[3:11:02] what's
[3:11:02] , what's
[3:11:03] the biggest bang for our
[3:11:03] buck
[3:11:04] for
[3:11:04] the public
[3:11:05] value is always
[3:11:05] what we're looking at
[3:11:06] , but you
[3:11:07] guys will
[3:11:07] notice we're doing
[3:11:08] the paving
[3:11:08] project in
[3:11:09] OCTOBER
[3:11:09] and that was one is
[3:11:10] pretty
[3:11:10] visible right when you drive on
[3:11:11] the north gate
[3:11:12] . So we're we're
[3:11:13] looking forward to that
[3:11:13] . Yeah,
[3:11:14] thank you
[3:11:15] very much for that.
[3:11:15] We had
[3:11:16] a study done
[3:11:17] or 4
[3:11:18] years ago. One of the things we
[3:11:20] looked at affordable housing in
[3:11:21] the county, where is
[3:11:22] that
[3:11:22] available to do it and look at
[3:11:23] County
[3:11:24] owned properties, and
[3:11:25] one of them was
[3:11:25] the
[3:11:25] fairgrounds
[3:11:26] and
[3:11:27] the
[3:11:27] senior center just
[3:11:28] north of the fairgrounds and
[3:11:30] basically, yes
[3:11:31] , it's
[3:11:32] potential
[3:11:33] for
[3:11:33] housing
[3:11:33] , but to
[3:11:34] replace
[3:11:35] the fairgrounds, it
[3:11:36] wasn't
[3:11:37] economical to
[3:11:38] replace
[3:11:38] the
[3:11:38] fairgrounds
[3:11:39] with
[3:11:39] housing
[3:11:40] because there isn't
[3:11:40] enough
[3:11:41] margin there for
[3:11:41] a builder
[3:11:42] buy
[3:11:43] the fairgrounds and
[3:11:43] build a
[3:11:43] new
[3:11:45] fairground someplace to
[3:11:45] make that happen. So I
[3:11:47] just
[3:11:48] want everybody to be
[3:11:49] aware that
[3:11:50] yes, we looked at it
[3:11:50] , but
[3:11:50] it's
[3:11:50] not
[3:11:51] going anywhere
[3:11:51] from
[3:11:52] perspective
[3:11:53] , so you're and
[3:11:53] the
[3:11:54] staff and
[3:11:54] the staff
[3:11:55] is looking
[3:11:55] it from, you
[3:11:56] know
[3:11:56] , we are
[3:11:57] looking at, we're, I mean
[3:11:58] , I,
[3:11:59] is hard to
[3:12:00] look 50 years
[3:12:00] down the road
[3:12:01] with funding. We,
[3:12:01] we are looking 5
[3:12:02] , 1015 years,
[3:12:02] and that's our goal. It's some
[3:12:03] some days
[3:12:03] you're looking 5
[3:12:04] years down
[3:12:05] the road. Some days
[3:12:06] it's 10, sometimes
[3:12:07] it's 15. The
[3:12:07] next day it's back
[3:12:08] 2, but
[3:12:09] are
[3:12:10] , we are looking at those
[3:12:10] things and so we
[3:12:11] are looking at
[3:12:12] with longevity in the
[3:12:12] current
[3:12:13] site
[3:12:14] and investing
[3:12:14] in it
[3:12:14] a lot
[3:12:15] and so
[3:12:16] , um, we
[3:12:16] again, when
[3:12:16] you
[3:12:17] guys invest in that even
[3:12:18] with
[3:12:19] our foundation or the projects
[3:12:19] we help the
[3:12:19] horse
[3:12:20] department
[3:12:21] Please know that
[3:12:22] your
[3:12:22] committing towards
[3:12:24] sustainable
[3:12:24] thing and again
[3:12:25] we've talked about the funding
[3:12:25] level
[3:12:26] of self-funded, so
[3:12:27] there
[3:12:28] is, we
[3:12:28] are going to
[3:12:28] work
[3:12:29] work very
[3:12:30] very
[3:12:30] hard and we have
[3:12:31] to work harder every year
[3:12:32] sustain it, but it
[3:12:32] does have
[3:12:34] some stable
[3:12:34] footing if we can
[3:12:35] continue to
[3:12:37] get community
[3:12:37] support, so we just want to
[3:12:38] know that you're giving to
[3:12:39] something sustainable, and we
[3:12:39] also at the same
[3:12:41] time do very
[3:12:41] much need
[3:12:41] everyone's help
[3:12:43] . Very
[3:12:43] good. Thank you
[3:12:44] very much. Any
[3:12:44] other
[3:12:45] questions, comments
[3:12:48] ? So
[3:12:48] with that, we're going to
[3:12:49] adjourn for a couple of minutes
[3:12:50] and then we have our
[3:12:50] budget
[3:12:51] meeting with all
[3:12:52] our
[3:12:52] different