[0:00] To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

[0:06] stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

[0:12] for all.

[0:23] » Here

[0:28] » that agenda for motion. >> Second.

[0:34] » All in favor?

[0:39] » All right. We got discussion of current FY26 budget. I put that on because Jeff

[0:44] had something he want to say.

[0:52] with the talks of moving this building over here and and and

[0:58] turning that over to tourism. Uh

[1:03] when I went in there, when we put the windows in with Greg, uh he opened the

[1:09] back closet and he pointed out what he thought was mold

[1:14] all over the wall. Is there any possible way in this budget

[1:20] that we can get a mold test done in there before we open that up this year

[1:26] for the tourism

[1:33] or we have to wait until the next budget?

[1:50] We have to see how much the mold test would cost first.

[1:53] » I'm sorry. >> We need to see how much the B test would

[1:55] cost. I mean, >> I don't know how much the test would

[2:01] run.

[2:04] I would need to see the cost on that. >> Would that would that be pro?

[2:08] » You would need some sort of bid.

[2:12] » I don't I know how that slipped through because I had mentioned it when we did

[2:17] the >> clean out.

[2:20] » I never had a key to that room. >> You don't have a key to it.

[2:23] » That you're talking the closet in the corner. In the corner behind you.

[2:27] » You told me it was locked. >> Yeah, it's locked. I don't have a key.

[2:32] I didn't know what was in there. >> Okay.

[2:35] So, we need to get you get for that.

[2:40] » I would suggest that before we answer the question. put into the current year

[2:44] budget because without knowing how much test cost

[2:51] you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

[2:53] » So we put it all at a time. >> I mean the answer to that is yes another

[2:59] question. You're going to need to you're going to need to get a price

[3:04] on how much test it's going to cost first.

[3:10] All right.

[3:14] » With that being said, are we going to remodel that side as well,

[3:18] » the walls and stuff like we did this side?

[3:22] » Cuz it's just old paneling. >> That's going to have to be something to

[3:26] » be budgeted, too. >> We can't we can't do anything with that

[3:28] until >> everybody's until he's out, right? I

[3:31] didn't know how quick they were to use it. a turnaround was, you know,

[3:35] » one and one in there now that >> I mean, not that you couldn't use it

[3:40] like that, but the one side's re redone. All the panel was painted, the ceiling

[3:44] tile was painted. >> We could we could close off the one side

[3:49] until budget time >> and then Okay.

[3:52] » Yeah. And I that's what I would that would be my recommendation.

[3:56] We can't we can't let people in there if that is black mold in that closet.

[4:03] Yeah, my suggestion would be to definitely

[4:07] um did that service out and find out how

[4:12] much it cost.

[4:25] » So, we just wait and we can't let them in there until we find

[4:30] out. >> It may not be back. All

[4:34] right, that's just tablet for now. >> That needs to be uh tested. I'm going to

[4:40] make a motion that we close that one side off till we find out.

[4:43] » I don't know if we can vote because we don't have it on this cuz you didn't

[4:47] tell me what you wanted on it. That's not on it to vote. Can we

[4:53] don't think we can vote for that not being on the agenda.

[4:58] What do you think, Lane? >> I don't think per Lance said without

[5:03] with nothing being itemized on this, he says you cannot vote as it's just a

[5:07] discussion. >> But we can do that next week on Tuesdays

[5:10] though. You would do that to next Tuesday.

[5:14] » Y >> that's what I that's why I asked you

[5:16] when was talking. >> Well, I was hoping we could do something

[5:19] tonight where we could get the get the test.

[5:22] » Well, see people had a hidden agenda that we didn't post what we were going

[5:27] to talk about. >> So, we'll take the next meeting. So

[5:30] Lance asked me what was on the agenda and he went okay I went through and he

[5:35] just make sure they don't vote unless it's the next meeting.

[5:42] » Yeah, we're going to take a motion.

[5:46] » All right. >> Okay.

[5:50] The next discussion u

[5:55] I've got one thing for the budget if that's okay. um on this thing with the

[6:01] um the hood park. The scoreboard had a controller that was

[6:08] part of our parks, actually part of that park because all

[6:14] that was donated. So if the people do not return the controller, do we have

[6:19] the budget in the parks to provide them with that controller so that

[6:23] » Well, right now, Mr. Pitch, that's not on this eater to discuss.

[6:26] » It's on the budget. to discuss. Well, it's something that we should consider.

[6:30] And I'm just asking what's the budget for the parks right now? Would it handle

[6:34] a $1,200 controller? >> Well, it's an item that's not um in the

[6:40] budget. So, um with it being that large of an item, we would have to look at the

[6:45] um facility as to where we would need to

[6:50] put that in. >> So, we might put that on the next to see

[6:54] if we can do that because They got to have control over that that board. So

[6:59] most people help. >> But our is just the fields that we do.

[7:03] We don't you know we don't >> but it's up to the board. I mean the

[7:07] board wants to do it. >> But once the once the board once that

[7:11] scoreboard was donated to us, it was ours to to keep up and everything. So

[7:18] » I can tell you this is in with the attorney right now and he has not

[7:22] provided a full answer. >> Good. Okay,

[7:25] » that was turned over to the attorney. >> The missing

[7:30] » everything in there. Okay.

[7:34] » All right. Let's discuss this what I just said. The LPUA

[7:38] P electric bill payment plan and approver.

[7:43] » So, um I received our February electric bill which is for the

[7:49] January usage. I apologize. I'm sorry. I can't talk very loud. I don't have a lot

[7:55] of breath. My asthma is kind of inflated right now.

[8:00] I'll talk as loud as I can. Um the total bill for January was 1,19,7427.

[8:14] They have offered to withdraw on February 18th 676,572.75

[8:26] and the remaining balance owed from Wintertorm Fern will be um $432

[8:32] $432,5152.

[8:37] um that remaining balance um will carry forward with a potential interest of 5%

[8:44] occurred over a 9-month period.

[8:50] So, um

[8:55] there is no way to tell on this bill that you have in front of you whether

[9:00] what is the normal versus what is firm. Um I did speak with NPUA today and they

[9:07] did say that the minimum they did um try to give us on the first payment the

[9:15] minimum bill looks like the cold would a cold January but the exact amounts

[9:21] aren't 100% tied out. She did tell me that January began very

[9:27] mild um and ended very um you know what it did in winter harm. The natural gas

[9:36] prices are what were driving this um cost. They were 10 times higher than

[9:41] normal. I can attest to that because our natural gas um bill was doubled it for

[9:48] award as well. This can all be verified on the EIA website if you want to take a

[9:55] look at that. I did speak with our auditor to get some

[10:00] consulting advice on how we should move forward.

[10:06] Payments will be approximately 50,000 a month. So the first payment that we make

[10:12] will be 676,572.75.

[10:18] the remaining balance split over 9 months. We could pay approximately 5% in

[10:23] interest, but it could be less if they get to use reserves. We don't know that

[10:27] atro right now. We're they have to consult um another board within their

[10:33] organization. The interest will be between 17 to

[10:37] 18,000. The customer will pay their portion

[10:41] through the PPA in both scenarios. Whether we pay full price at one time or

[10:46] whether we pay payments take approximately 3 months to pay back

[10:51] the bills through the BPA. I'm not approximately sure on the

[10:55] payback how long it'll take. >> How many how many months pay back?

[10:59] » We think approximately three months, but that's not confirmed. I could not get a

[11:03] hold of likely to design the PPA. We think approximately three months. could

[11:09] be longer um but we think approximately three

[11:14] months. So my recommendation since um is to do the um pay over 9 months because

[11:24] you're going to deplete your cash flow in the electric department. You have

[11:32] more than just worrying about getting back up. You have

[11:37] large projects that are coming out. You also have at the end of the year

[11:41] transfers into other departments that you have to pay back and you don't want

[11:45] to strap your electric department over time. You do not have the cash flow to

[11:49] pay this pay this down and worry about strapping your electric department. This

[11:54] will give you the time to um raise the cash flow back up to where it needs

[12:01] to be and you won't be strapping that electric department down.

[12:05] You recommended nine months >> do

[12:09] it's on the advice of the auditor. The auditor and I spoke and this is what he

[12:12] recommended as well. >> Will it be a pass through to the people?

[12:16] I'm sure. >> Yes, it will.

[12:17] » What if uh we haven't another storm in two or three weeks or what if it gets

[12:23] really really hot during this time we're paying this back and it gets into peak

[12:28] again >> again? I can't unfortunately I don't

[12:31] have those answers because those situations haven't haven't occurred. I

[12:36] can tell you that when I sat on the phone call on January 28th with the rest

[12:40] of our group, those questions did come up and they said we have to tighten our

[12:44] belt. We have to do better. Our reserves within our organization have been

[12:49] depleted and we are trying to get those reserves within our organization within

[12:53] the member cities back up. So, and did you say that normally we paid $30 per

[13:02] MHz and it the peak went up to $500 per >> I would say around we I would say we're

[13:09] normally paying I think I saw um I think I saw somewhere where we it went you

[13:17] could say approximately 30 I'm not going to say that 100% that's accurate but

[13:22] yeah you could say we were paying maybe it would jump

[13:28] I don't have those sheets in front of me but it was 30 to 40,000 in the natural

[13:34] gas is what we would normally pay but um on the electric side

[13:42] we're paying for demand. So the demand over winter storm burn went up 10fold

[13:49] and it was based on natural gas prices. So the natural gas price went up 10

[13:54] times what it normally is. And this happens every few years because if you

[13:58] remember a storm Yuri, we had the same same effect. And I

[14:04] looked back at natural gas prices um for I had to do this for the auditor

[14:10] not too long ago and the same effect happened back with um wintertorm Yuri as

[14:16] well. We saw the same effect not so many years ago with Wintertorm Yuri. We're

[14:21] seeing the same thing. We've been significantly lucky with our winter

[14:24] storms that we haven't seen the same effect happen

[14:29] um with the prices. I will let you know that they were they did have to shoot

[14:35] out some $900 per kilowatt hour um electric. I don't know what cities got

[14:43] got hit with that, but they did say that they had to purchase those powers. Um um

[14:49] some of them was in the $400 to $500 ranges where they they transmitted that

[14:53] electric. We don't know. We just sit on these calls and they tell us this

[14:57] information and they do the best they can to purchase it. But when the demand

[15:01] gets high, they have to purchase at high prices.

[15:04] » Now, this is based this isn't based on our usage. It's based on a conglomerate.

[15:09] » Um no, this would be based on what we paid.

[15:11] » Yeah. >> General.

[15:14] » Did we peak in electric and peak in gas? We did.

[15:18] » Yeah, we did. >> Okay.

[15:20] » I mean, you can look and she said um last month we used 7 approximately 7.1

[15:27] um in December because the prior month energy charge was 7.1.

[15:33] The in the current month in January it was 7.7 kilowatt hour.

[15:39] » I got you. >> So

[15:41] » So you're talking about interest on this. We're talking 17 18,000 per month

[15:45] interest. for eight or nine months.

[15:52] » That I wrote that down, too. So, that's kind of how you worded it. So, is it 9

[15:56] months and a total of 17 or 18,000? >> So, it be 450,000 and total

[16:02] approximately um additional payment.

[16:07] » So, >> 400 and some thousand,000

[16:12] per month approximately. >> Do we have that reserves? at the back

[16:15] reserves right now. Could we pay this bill and save the citizen $450,000?

[16:20] » Cut your reserves in half. >> Huh?

[16:23] » I don't think you I me personally I don't want to cut this the tax the uh

[16:27] electric department's reserves in half. >> How much do we have electric fund right

[16:31] now? >> We have

[16:33] » And then how much do we have reserves? >> We have 2.6 million in reserves.

[16:37] and in the count of the electric too or just two in the reserves and two in

[16:43] electric >> and you're going to spend three or 400

[16:46] million um right off the bat um on a huge project and you have other projects

[16:53] within the city that you have to do. >> Yeah, but we're going to get this money

[16:57] monthly back is what I'm saying. I I just hate to pass on

[17:03] interest.

[17:07] I get it. But >> are you saying $19,000

[17:10] a month?

[17:15] » 17 to 18. Is that per month?

[17:19] » Or is that $19,000? N

[17:22] » is Yeah.

[17:35] » The way you worded it, it said months 5% interest at 17 18,000. So that would be

[17:41] a month >> at least. So yeah.

[17:44] » Okay. So that's per square month. >> We we can try to pay it off and I

[17:50] believe we can pay it off because we got the money coming back

[17:54] in. But I don't get to vote on this. But that's just my opinion.

[18:02] » I want to say $450,000. Because you know what? Even in our

[18:07] budget for 9 months, we're going to budget this so much per month next year

[18:10] budget so we can pay it off. And how much interest would we get out of these

[18:16] uh reserves anyway? >> We're not getting any interest. We voted

[18:21] to put all the interest in the general fund. The general fund would not have to

[18:25] borrow any. So all the interest stays in the general fund.

[18:28] » I did it any way possible at all. Pay himself.

[18:32] » But that's up to this board. You want to go 9 months? That's up to you all.

[18:35] » Okay. Well, hold on. 9 months at $18,000 is only $162,000.

[18:41] » You said $400 and something. So, >> it's 50 It's 50,000 a month

[18:46] approximately is the payment because it's $432,000

[18:52] at 550,000 a month. I made 450,000. >> Yeah. 50,000 a month in the payment. But

[18:58] you said 480 something,000 in interest. Yeah,

[19:04] » you 162,000. >> Did you?

[19:07] » Oh, yeah. Maybe I It's been a long day, guys. And they haven't even made their

[19:11] payment schedule. Sorry. >> That's all right.

[19:14] » I I raised a payment on APY. Uh and they gave me $50,000. That's what they told

[19:20] me. Approximately $50,000 $50,000 a month for payment.

[19:24] » And they haven't gave you the full payment schedule yet. So, I apologize.

[19:30] And that's over and above. >> And the said 17 to 18,000 total. And I

[19:35] wish I wish I hadation schedule, but I don't

[19:40] amount. >> So we'd only be 162,000 in interest. Is

[19:44] that what you're saying? >> The interest would be on the full

[19:47] amount, the 1 million sum, right? >> No, because we're paying 676,500

[19:52] right off the bat. >> Then it would be on the

[19:56] left, >> whatever number that was.

[20:00] $432,515232,510.

[20:27] » All right. 600,000 on 11

[20:34] 500,000.

[20:39] » Well, 432 and 162 the whole 9 months

[20:47] 9 months 432

[20:51] instead of taking half return about 225,000

[21:06] We got next Tuesday, right? >> We got to the 18th.

[21:10] » The 18th and they will automatically >> why we call the special meeting.

[21:14] » When's the next meeting? >> The 17th.

[21:18] » Would it help if we moved on to the next thing and you know

[21:22] » like went to your office and figured something out?

[21:24] » I can do that.

[21:33] If if the reserve is 2 and a2 million and the bill is a million one, we're

[21:39] already going to pay 600,000. You're not going to need that reserve. I know half

[21:44] you're going to be taking 47,000 out the reserve.

[21:48] » Yes. >> And you're going to pay if you don't use

[21:50] your reserve, then you're going to pay 180 leverage interest.

[21:55] » I know. So simple a minimum >> on simple interest is about $17,000

[22:01] total interest um >> per month

[22:05] » per total interest for 9 months. >> Yeah. Per month.

[22:08] » And the interest would be $1,800 a month.

[22:11] » Also the 50,000 tax to the next month. >> Month. Okay.

[22:16] » So we have another big letd down. We're going to have another million dollar

[22:19] bill plus 50,000. So where is the 676,000

[22:26] coming from? >> The down payment we have to make it

[22:30] would come from our electric bill from our electric

[22:36] » electric cash. >> So then it'd be 432501

[22:41] would come from reserves if we paid the whole thing.

[22:44] » No, it would come from our electric cash.

[22:47] » Electric. >> It doesn't come from reserves until

[22:52] over if it's 9 month.

[22:59] » No, she said total. You said >> simple interest is 17,000 total.

[23:04] » 17,000 total. >> No, she saidal. Simple.

[23:11] » That's what was throwing me off. I was like,

[23:14] » that's only $17,000. >> Mhm.

[23:17] » A for 9 months. It's $1,800 a month.

[23:23] » Most students and

[23:26] » I mean I I will verify that um with MPA, but they're going to give us a schedule.

[23:32] » Can we wait till Tuesday to make a decision on this and the next morning

[23:37] you let them know

[23:43] » and you can get all the information for us to make sure that it's right.

[23:48] I don't I don't know if it's that or this is an auto they autoraph this.

[23:54] » Oh >> So I don't

[23:59] » stop. >> Can we vote on this?

[24:02] And that's pending. You're right on your information.

[24:05] » I will verify tomorrow because this ties us up for nine months.

[24:11] And if we have another problem, >> we got another bill. We got another

[24:14] interest. Well, how how would we pay it? Payments

[24:20] » for 9 months. >> I I would say for your 1,800 for 9

[24:25] months and then if we pay it off early, >> get the numbers in like you're talking

[24:30] about >> 18,000 for 9 months,

[24:33] » right? >> You said 1,800.

[24:35] » Well, 1800. >> Okay.

[24:36] » Can we pay that off earlier? They still going to charge it that percent.

[24:40] » We can't pay it off early. >> A lot of loans are you pay that percent

[24:43] you pay it off early. There's nothing in the writing that says we can pay it off

[24:47] early. >> Can't pay it off early.

[24:49] » I think so. >> Well,

[24:53] this is truth. >> I remember that now.

[24:58] » My opinion is pay the whole thing, but that's up to this board.

[25:01] » I'm kind of there. >> I heard there too. I'm going that way

[25:06] too. Are there any projects that we could take out of capital improvement to

[25:11] improve the cash for electric?

[25:19] » No. >> We got to do that

[25:22] and we got to improve it. We're not going to improve.

[25:27] » This board >> has this ever happened before.

[25:32] » When was that? Um, >> did you pay it off or did you go

[25:37] » We're still paying it off. >> Is that 1.2 that we talked about

[25:40] earlier? >> We paid it off. That was the 1.2.

[25:43] » So, the customers paid it back over a 2-year time and we're paying it back

[25:46] over a 5year period. >> Okay.

[25:51] » So, we're still paying on the last. >> Yeah, that's the long.

[26:02] pay the total bill and take it out of it reserves what we need and pay back the

[26:06] reserves. >> We can't take it out of reserves or

[26:10] » out of the electric reserves >> you

[26:14] take it out of your cash but >> it comes out of your regular budget and

[26:19] once your budget is exhausted then you hit your reserves.

[26:21] » Yeah. >> Unfortunately

[26:23] » $10 something. >> Yeah. I pay the bill

[26:27] » and then we can pay it back when we get it in.

[26:30] » Yeah. We get it in slowly x back in. >> So the customers will pay a portion of

[26:35] this. It hits their PPA >> and if we need it if we need a rate

[26:39] adjustment and the electric we should study that and get a

[26:44] » we know that but just say >> we all this time

[26:48] » is we we're not discussing. I made a motion that we pay in full.

[26:55] also did the thing. >> Hey,

[27:01] yes. >> Yes.

[27:04] » Where am I? >> Yes.

[27:07] » Yes. >> Yes.

[27:10] » Yes. >> Can it be done?

[27:13] » It's going to totally limit your cash flow in the electric department. It's

[27:17] not my recommendation and it's really not yours.

[27:20] » It can be done. >> So, what happens if we have an ice

[27:22] storm? We got reserves. >> Yeah.

[27:25] » 2 what? Five. >> 2.6. Right now,

[27:28] » our reserves are for emergency. >> Yeah.

[27:32] 1.5, >> but you transfer into your general fund

[27:35] every year. >> What's our $2.6 million draw at the

[27:38] bank? >> Your 2.6 does nothing in your electric

[27:42] department. It goes to your general fund,

[27:44] » right? But is it in the bank? >> It's a variable um

[27:50] variable every month. So it's roughly about two 2% at the bank, but it does

[27:55] nothing for your electric department, >> right? But we can if the electric part

[27:59] department needs money, we can pull money out of the reserves to help them.

[28:04] Correct? >> So I'd rather draw 2% interest than pay

[28:08] 5%. That's just the way that >> I think.

[28:17] It's already passed. Yes or no?

[28:24] Well, trying to state a citizen a lot here.

[28:31] I want just because Jennifer recommends against it. I'm

[28:35] » Hey.

[28:43] All right. Moving on. 208.

[28:49] Move to have the third reading of bill number 2208.

[28:55] » Huh? >> Have a second.

[28:56] » Second. >> All in favor?

[29:01] » An ordinance authorizing the mayor of the city of Cuba, Missouri on behalf of

[29:05] the city of Cuba, Missouri to enter into an agreement with Crawford County Youth

[29:09] Football for the use of facilities located at Cuba Park.

[29:14] Have a >> motion second.

[29:17] » Ro. >> No, we got written first.

[29:21] » No, we just read >> confus.

[29:31] Yes, >> the same.

[29:34] » I guess really before I did that, I should have asked Sierra if everything

[29:38] was all right in that contract. >> Yes, sir.

[29:41] » You good with that? Okay. Sorry about that.

[29:44] » Okay. >> Motion to have the second reading of

[29:47] bill number 2208. >> Motion.

[29:51] » Second. All in favor?

[29:53] » I. >> An ordinance authorizing the mayor of

[29:58] the city of Cuba, Missouri on behalf of the city of Cuba, Missouri to enter into

[30:02] an agreement with Crawford County Youth Football for the use of facilities

[30:05] located at Cuba Hood Park. to accept deferred reading of bill

[30:10] number 2208. >> All right, you confused it.

[30:13] » Second proc.

[30:19] » Yes. >> American.

[30:25] » Yes. >> Bill number 228 becomes gardens 957 on

[30:30] this 12th day of February 2026. >> All right. The last one for joint.

[30:38] Get out of here.

[30:42] » I just I just want to wish my condolences to see her family

[30:51] and he was a good man. >> Mark

[31:00] family. I think we're >> allerg.

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