[0:04] This was the pledge of allegiance.

[0:10] The pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and the military public,

[0:16] from which it stands, one nation, another indivisible liberty and justice for all.

[0:23] Right.

[0:26] There. Well, with that, I'll call the damper's gun to select board to order for April fools.

[0:35] They propose there. This really isn't a meeting, right?

[0:37] Right.

[0:38] Yeah.

[0:38] Everybody wants to do a chair.

[0:41] I mean, we are absent.

[0:44] Darryl is taking his elected officials online course.

[0:49] And Andrea joins us from the big screen over here.

[0:53] So, Andrea, before we get started,

[0:58] there are a lot of the board lunch,

[1:01] kind of a couple of additions.

[1:02] And you like to sneak stuff in at the last minute, Eric, I don't know if it's cool.

[1:05] We do have an onsite catering permit that came in just after the little too late to get

[1:12] it on this printed version, but it's okay with the board and we'll add that in there.

[1:16] And then there's also firm for five under racial action items, and then on room and room

[1:22] and room six, we have a consideration of a planning board member, so I know of that, but

[1:29] that's good with everybody.

[1:32] and no thumbs up. Okay, we'll try not to add too much on there for you. All right.

[1:37] With that, I suppose we can give everybody a started.

[1:41] We have two minutes. I hear this was some discussion on the minute.

[1:44] Let's do it too. Let's do this. I'm going to leave this making a very

[1:49] egregious error. Oh, the curferection. I will prove the minutes of more

[1:54] treating. All right. We have seconds. I know.

[2:00] That's just taking my notes here.

[2:04] Okay.

[2:07] Sorry, then they'll do is Tom's got a motion.

[2:09] All right.

[2:09] Then we can either you have a correction.

[2:12] I do.

[2:13] Okay.

[2:14] I'll draw the motion subject of the correction.

[2:16] Okay.

[2:16] So there's no second.

[2:18] So motion motion dies.

[2:20] Yeah, go ahead.

[2:20] Okay.

[2:21] So it's sort of in the center paragraph.

[2:23] We're talking about property tax.

[2:25] It says property tax.

[2:26] firmness credit, there really is no such thing as a firmness credit to property tax fairness credit.

[2:32] Fairness? Fairness. Oh, and it's heard you. Yeah, and maybe it's just enhanced property

[2:38] tax fairness credit is also being considered by the legislature. So that's okay, that's what that is.

[2:46] So I'm just heard you are. I do. The firm sounds pretty good. Yeah, so

[2:52] Department of Tax, Fairness, Credit is being considered.

[2:56] Also being considered by the legislature.

[2:59] So, Carrie.

[3:02] You know, that at end?

[3:04] Yeah, OK.

[3:05] Subject to those changes and make a motion to approve

[3:07] the minutes of largely pink.

[3:10] OK, thank you.

[3:11] No second.

[3:11] OK, 10 seconds.

[3:13] All right, any discussion?

[3:15] Harry, no, no, it was in favor.

[3:17] OK, and do you as well?

[3:19] Yeah, it's there.

[3:20] All right.

[3:20] All right, we all had a chance to look at the warrants.

[3:25] Any questions, will we move along?

[3:27] Anything to be good?

[3:28] We pay reward number 43.

[3:30] I'll move pay reward 43.

[3:35] Just need a second, I'll say to make it down.

[3:38] Good, any discussion?

[3:40] Any now, all those in favor?

[3:42] Okay, and I'll move count payable number 44.

[3:47] Second.

[3:48] All right, thank you, Tom.

[3:50] Any discussion?

[3:51] All those in favor?

[3:53] Okay. All right.

[3:54] Andrew as well.

[3:55] Andrew, are you some state of staining?

[3:57] Are you?

[4:00] You're all here.

[4:01] I did.

[4:02] Yeah.

[4:02] Them.

[4:03] I.

[4:04] I.

[4:05] You're abstaining.

[4:06] I don't know.

[4:06] Yeah.

[4:07] I just want to clarify.

[4:08] Yeah.

[4:08] I assume.

[4:09] I just want to make sure.

[4:10] Okay.

[4:11] All right.

[4:12] Sit for.

[4:14] So we have time since it's coming.

[4:16] Anything come in for the last minute for citizen's comments?

[4:19] where I opened up on the floor.

[4:20] Johnny, you want to share the ruptop of the page

[4:23] or you came in, it does not have a good time for you to

[4:25] think about that.

[4:27] My brother, James, you know, made up a rational,

[4:32] good eye, a good eye, a great way to reach each of you

[4:37] members and I hope that you will be allowed to get one

[4:41] here for one of these as well.

[4:44] Well, yeah, we'll get a copy of Andrea.

[4:46] This is an addition.

[4:47] Okay, we are looking for the Ministers and I think if each of you read that it makes

[4:55] a lot of sense and gives you an opportunity to think how we are going to afford it as

[5:03] that fair should something disaster happen and the plan is just out there so we look at

[5:14] We appreciate you doing that.

[5:15] Yeah, we will join.

[5:16] Thank you.

[5:17] And do you want to put this together?

[5:19] Yeah.

[5:20] It's all been a jammer.

[5:21] It's not all over it now.

[5:25] Thank you.

[5:25] I think we all get it.

[5:26] We've gone through it,

[5:27] but it'll be a little more time to re-throw it.

[5:30] So great.

[5:33] Thank you.

[5:34] Is anybody else?

[5:35] Well, we have says comments open.

[5:37] Yes.

[5:38] I'm in nothing coming in on the big screen there.

[5:40] So all right.

[5:45] All right. How about some over here, some town management reports? Anything, any out the ordinary in there?

[5:53] Yeah. Taxes that we're due today, it's like an app we're due today, starting tomorrow, they'll be just to put it on that second half thing.

[6:00] And I know it's not been very busy taking those in.

[6:05] In light of that, proposing that we close the office for me for second April 30th. New or not.

[6:10] As soon as I was trying to keep a straight face, I was like, you've got a really nice

[6:16] thing. I said, I think we have a type of, and you found me.

[6:20] Oh, it's better.

[6:21] He was the typo.

[6:26] April 4th.

[6:27] It was very small.

[6:28] I just had to do it.

[6:29] Yeah.

[6:30] There was one one too.

[6:32] Oh, I like the other one better.

[6:33] That was a second amount of the will.

[6:35] The last one.

[6:36] Yeah.

[6:37] Right. Yeah, the prices haven't been declining. The asphalt price, things are 30-year low, so it

[6:44] sits and we're going to pave all the roads this year until I've worked with you again.

[6:49] This is a little fool. I can say I worked up like three. I had reached out and suggested that while the

[6:55] staff is on sabbatical, they can be assigned to the public worst department and they can get all that

[7:01] haven't done right with the extra crew. So yeah, I was sure

[7:05] fast. And it was all real. And we have some less intense

[7:13] issues. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we've stayed training scheduled.

[7:19] We've had just a few new people come on since we did last.

[7:21] And there's some just things that now that we've been into it for

[7:24] a year, we good to ask, how do we do this? We're struggling with

[7:26] that. And so we're doing this the best way. So we're going to

[7:29] take a morning in mid-April and had that opportunity again.

[7:35] In

[7:41] the updates, the laws were kind of waiting the legislature's field in session for two

[7:47] more weeks.

[7:48] In last year, they fasted and was enacted 18, LD1829, which has some pretty substantial

[7:56] changes to how towns must allow housing development.

[8:01] And it was to try and correct what was LB 2003 from a few years ago where they had done the

[8:08] ability to do 80 use and by right. But it didn't catch up with, for example, by right,

[8:14] you can have up to 48 to use on some parcels. Well, that trigger subdivision review so it still

[8:18] adds some of that bureaucracy and red tape and it still slows the process down if you're doing it

[8:24] and so they tried to kind of correct all of those other places in which the housing piece needed to be

[8:29] touched and in doing so, probably the biggest impact for us was whether a parcel for developments

[8:38] in or not in a growth area, if it has access to water, public water or sewer or a centralized

[8:45] sewer system or something comparable, just land as that. They'd be able to develop at a rate of

[8:53] one unit per 5,000 square feet of land and so that's a pretty substantial change when you'd

[9:01] look at our rural district. I mean it was kind of town planning be damned in some way

[9:08] by saying it can happen outside that growth area at that same density and so they were trying

[9:12] to address that in 2173. It's gone through five session, four sessions. It came out of the lap,

[9:18] one ought to pass as amended as of this afternoon. There still is no printed amendment.

[9:23] and to read. So we don't know on that last work session, how was it further modified?

[9:29] And I guess the question is whether or not they're able to get to it before the 15th.

[9:35] Maybe as soon as they're waiting for budget stuff to be able to get agreed upon before they come back

[9:38] and deal with the rest. But so we're kind of just kind of waiting to see what those amendments are,

[9:43] what those changes might require us to do and consider. Otherwise what's in the law from last year's

[9:49] was currently there. So one of the proposals that was in there was to change

[9:53] the 5,000, 10,000. Still a big change for us but in a rural section. So stay tuned on now.

[10:01] We didn't get a grant to help us do some of those ordinance updates over the next year.

[10:06] And so we'll be coming up with a plan to kind of tackle that and proceed over the next year

[10:12] with the idea of going for town meeting approval in June next year. Now,

[10:15] to fight July 1 of 27 and that we have to have our ordinance subcaded.

[10:24] PB, the planning to do a fraud and scam prevention event at the library tomorrow,

[10:32] with partnership with Coastal Maine Broad Regional Broadband.

[10:35] They're going to do the same thing the next day at Boonecoat,

[10:41] So the community over there and the chief did today they put question out an orderly kind

[10:50] of update of some staffs to kind of show what the department's been up at the last

[10:54] border.

[10:55] It's just a small piece and per kind of for the public to see I encouraged him to do a little

[11:00] bit more detailed one for the sake of the select board when it's ready to present a report

[11:04] for the select board.

[11:05] Great.

[11:06] And so just to try and get back out and be more, you know, with the community, we'll be able to share and what they're up to and Matt and one of the other folks they put up crazy.

[11:16] The late last week at the US was that they reestablished their focus roles for the last few weeks. Yeah.

[11:22] And that was what seemed pretty well received by folks online.

[11:25] That was nice to see.

[11:27] and hopefully I would incur very visible.

[11:31] That's why I have chosen the shares,

[11:33] ours, part one of the business room,

[11:37] one of the other one of the shop station last couple days.

[11:40] I know, this is just our police department.

[11:42] Yeah, but the shares have been offered.

[11:46] Yeah, and I know this, but yeah, the footage rolls have been noticed.

[11:52] Yeah, pretty good.

[11:53] It's good, yeah.

[11:54] Yeah, so public works look for launched Monday, I'm slow available for use. The bathrooms

[12:01] were opened up today and start that cleaning. We had some help on the flux. We did get some

[12:07] help, the new harbor master. I'm going to start to come and help the guys and that will be.

[12:11] So yeah, we have to take that up. There's some point here that we wouldn't even be able

[12:15] to. I was appointed by Newcastle as the harbor master Eric had given his notice that

[12:22] wouldn't be able to do it this year.

[12:23] I'm Bernie DeLotts, still the deputy

[12:25] how we've been started to filter in pretty quick now.

[12:28] So yeah, those are ready and ready to go.

[12:30] I didn't go down as to how many boats were tied up to it.

[12:32] We had it any, but usually it doesn't.

[12:34] They start to filter in pretty quick now.

[12:36] So you folks down this way?

[12:39] What?

[12:39] Yeah, there's swimming yesterday.

[12:41] No, there are some glids in the water today when they last.

[12:45] I know I'm just waiting in, but yeah.

[12:47] I've already been in the water.

[12:50] Great.

[12:50] many questions any of the grants I've listed there yeah yeah yeah the one

[12:55] that is the CDS it seems like the dates were passed oh yeah yeah so that's been

[13:03] submitted yeah I didn't do that one update that one okay been submitted to all three

[13:09] representatives both senators and representative fingering we'll see what comes of it

[13:14] Yeah, for those that hadn't seen it in the past, we did submit a funding request for CDS funding to cover the balance due, that'll be due on the fire truck less than the deposit we put in.

[13:28] So it's a community put 500,000 in to hold our space in line to start that four year build or it's three and a half year build as they estimated it.

[13:36] And so we are trying to find ways to fund that outside of the taxpayer burden.

[13:41] And so we did put that in. It was a $1.3 million request.

[13:45] I mean, include some of the PPE that would need to go on there. New hose that would go on that idea.

[13:50] When it comes into service, it's got everything it needs to go out for years.

[13:56] Going back to the first one being an adaption, the prescription fund.

[14:01] What can we do with anything to avoid losing a 300,000 opportunity?

[14:06] I don't know. We're trying and we're going to see if we can do it.

[14:10] I mean, the biggest thing is just the time it takes to...

[14:14] We can't guarantee how long it takes for property owners and mortgage holders to be able to sign off.

[14:20] That's so long ago.

[14:21] So I mean there's six properties, five or six properties that have mortgages.

[14:26] One of them's got two interested parties on it, and some of them are out of state, so that makes it one more time.

[14:32] I would accept these. They've made deadline. They sit like the end of the march further.

[14:35] Yeah.

[14:36] It's mid-main.

[14:38] Yeah, I opened up on March 31st, and I believe it's half Friday in mid-main, which was for us, yeah, the 15th.

[14:50] So the 6th week turnaround, I think we were hoping to have our available this year.

[14:54] We've tried for eight weeks that that didn't happen, and so this great competitive special

[15:00] We're not able to release any, like, matrix or ranking, but I asked you, you know, last years were they were not able to give us any of that information, but they are prioritizing green infrastructure and nature-based solutions in order for our application to be competitive. So, we were trying to look and communicate with the engineers about that as well. In addition to securing the formalized pieces. So we're trying to see if we can make that happen before then, but we're hopeful that this grant will

[15:29] We'll also give it a little next year.

[15:31] It's been consistent in the past three years,

[15:33] an opportunity.

[15:34] Okay.

[15:35] So the people that need these things from,

[15:38] they're all going to benefit from this.

[15:39] So they've been contacted.

[15:41] We're working with the attorney to just pull together

[15:43] the footprint of the easements that would be needed.

[15:47] Some of it's permanent, some of it's just construction

[15:49] temporary.

[15:51] So she has that from the engineers.

[15:52] She's starting to draft the documents

[15:54] that we would need to then to send out

[15:55] to the property owner for their signature

[15:57] and the interested mortgage-holders,

[15:59] or any mean-holders actually.

[16:02] When I add three more properties and try and take that,

[16:04] or doing this effort to get the easements,

[16:07] take it right to Main Street,

[16:08] we were gonna stop back to Parking Law

[16:10] where the inlet was there,

[16:11] but we're gonna, it's only two more parcels at that point.

[16:14] So, just package it all up, it's wanting to be out there.

[16:17] I mean, we're not going anything from that back

[16:20] into the Parking Law all the way to Main Street,

[16:22] but, at least, what would it be beneficial

[16:25] to send out a letter of information to the property you know they're saying that we're

[16:30] working on this as a possibility that we'd be approaching in for requests for XYZ just to

[16:37] get meds off. Yeah, we're close to sending out the letter. Okay, so we're just going to follow

[16:42] that process we've committed to and include the... Yes, just slow movement process trying to get

[16:47] contact everybody and get them back and for a short period of time. Yeah, I said what, six weeks,

[16:53] they give you a six week turnaround to yeah that's tight for you know that's one of

[16:57] one property might be attractable. Well we were kind of hoping that you know it was possible that

[17:03] maybe in the north of a war they can check back and say did you get these minutes in place because

[17:07] that would give us another few months. Right and they said no you have to have it in place at the time

[17:11] of submission. Yeah and so yeah kind of like we're gonna have to get there. Kind of a shovel ready

[17:16] you know type of thing or not. Okay. Yeah. Can you have it? And maybe just you and you know the date

[17:25] of the Senegal techniques meeting with the public. Yeah, so we actually were able to adjust

[17:30] formalize that this morning, which is why it hasn't happened in your practice yet. So we are

[17:34] aiming for the evening of May said. And so we are timing is TBD. You were going to hope to hold that

[17:41] meeting at VSB to account for, you know, hopefully a bit of crowd of folks. And so we're gonna try and

[17:48] hold, you know, for our period or something in there. It's the only thing we can pick and choose.

[17:53] They're eating for about an hour and a half meeting. So, by the suspect, I would guess like a five,

[17:58] thirty to seven PM, but it's gonna be the evening of May 7th. Okay, great. Thanks.

[18:09] Anything else to help out folks on entry report? I'm especially glad we got him on the last seat.

[18:16] No. Is this more stuff than the other?

[18:19] Yeah.

[18:21] You got it.

[18:23] All right.

[18:24] Okay.

[18:28] Hey.

[18:30] Well, we will move along folks and do a special action item.

[18:35] So,

[18:36] we have here is the interlocal.

[18:42] I'm sorry.

[18:44] So I see the head on the memo drawing.

[18:45] I apologize.

[18:47] Oh, I'm not.

[18:48] The yeah, for the interlocals.

[18:49] Does the budget committee the time?

[18:53] But for the unit local on the.

[18:55] Yeah.

[18:56] Oh, and this memory.

[18:57] I didn't even see enough there.

[18:58] No problems.

[18:59] Yeah.

[19:00] Yeah.

[19:05] So the town meeting.

[19:06] If you're going to go off the rise,

[19:07] the slight board to execute and sign those documents for the amendments

[19:13] that were presented.

[19:16] Call for the board to take that action,

[19:18] unless there were other questions. Do you know there will be a copy for

[19:21] signature? Yes, we do.

[19:22] Yeah.

[19:23] And the meeting since then.

[19:26] No, we'll see.

[19:27] Okay.

[19:27] So we're just approving.

[19:29] Well, we've already looked at this thing twice.

[19:31] Yeah, I know.

[19:31] I just didn't know if there was a.

[19:33] No.

[19:33] Yeah.

[19:34] Nothing's changed.

[19:35] I don't know.

[19:36] I don't make a motion then.

[19:39] To move to approve the amendments to the CLC ambulance.

[19:42] and per-local reasons as presented.

[19:44] Second.

[19:45] All right, thank you, Elman.

[19:46] I've got the motion in a second.

[19:48] Any discussion?

[19:49] And hearing none, all those in favor?

[19:51] Okay, and you're as well.

[19:53] All right, but we'll go ahead.

[19:56] Hopefully that'll get them into their main purrs

[19:58] and get where they need to be.

[20:00] And I'd like to keep in the assessment value

[20:03] to basis the same for the other.

[20:06] For now, let's go.

[20:08] Separate the signal.

[20:09] Yeah, it's there right now. Yeah, that's the easy one. Yeah. All right. Next we have the first

[20:18] responder housing RFP review. Eight. You sold the briefing on that, Andy. Yeah, I didn't

[20:28] think that I had a leak in there to the spreadsheet we put together for the review we had.

[20:35] Oh, I can see the one come up.

[20:37] Okay, eight companies respond to the now assessment for the first responder housing.

[20:45] Yeah.

[20:46] This is the partnership with us in Newcastle.

[20:48] We'll connect.

[20:48] We're going to get two parcels.

[20:50] Technically three new castles got the fire station is technically another parcel of the side

[20:54] outside of that road.

[20:56] So that's going to be looked as a way of one.

[20:58] Yeah.

[20:58] And then we'll look at our fire station as a potential for for housing design.

[21:02] And so just for shared, the shared I think previously,

[21:06] the previous meeting, the results on the financial

[21:08] with those that look like those ranges were scored those.

[21:12] We were able to get three of the four folks

[21:14] we wanted to score and review to do it within that.

[21:20] The one of the things we were kind of aiming for

[21:23] and hoping for the minimum was to get through a 30% design.

[21:27] For these, we were a little unsure

[21:30] sure the full cost would be when we put this out. And no, we had a grant source that

[21:35] it finds 125,000 to work with. And so we put our sporing rubric matrix within the RFPs

[21:42] of folks knew how we were going to wait our sporeings. And then after looking through

[21:47] the materials, folks had questions if they went through or if they were able to see that

[21:51] link for the summary and look at any of those or not. But we encourage folks to do so even

[21:57] even still it was great to just kind of see the range of that kind of work

[22:00] as someone who's done and see that. So with that and looking through the the

[22:06] scoring and in the cost on that, you know, based on what we reviewed, I'd

[22:11] recommend CB and Mahar engineers. It looks like they'd be able to get us through

[22:17] the 30% on both properties. If we wanted it, if we felt at the time we wanted to

[22:23] proceed to the 90% designs. That would be, it was an additional $80,000, that wouldn't

[22:33] be a 50-50 split. Well, when we broke it down, they were able to show us, you know, the

[22:38] cost that they put in for each site. And they almost got to say it's a much bigger parcel

[22:44] of the groups in the back end there and there's some other challenges there. So that went

[22:48] a little bit more if we did that. But I'm just waiting to see how it's going to get

[22:53] there but I think that's something that we could bring up if we're feeling good about the 30% if we want to give

[22:59] notice to proceed you potentially reserve funds to do that if that makes sense so

[23:03] have down the road but regardless of making the recommendation that the board

[23:11] give notice of a while notice of award to be given to them and then allow me to execute a contract

[23:17] you know should we find there's other things that weren't fully identified that are going to be an

[23:21] issue. You know, we've stepped back from that and bring it back to the board, but allowing

[23:26] me to kind of make sure that we're crossing the line down to ease the way we need to

[23:29] on that. And this is one that needs to be improved by both towns. No, we're the receiving

[23:35] town, talked with, you know, both our party's for able to review it. And Kevin's currently

[23:41] on vacation. I haven't tried to bother him about it this week, but initially he's seen

[23:47] some of these companies work, you didn't have any major issues when it first came back to us.

[23:54] But yeah, this will be administered through us, and then we'll be through that process,

[23:58] there'll be public meetings with the boards for them to share some of what they're working on.

[24:04] The process, the progress they're making at some point, and so yeah, we'll

[24:11] be interested in, I don't think we've done anything quite like this.

[24:14] We had it's been quite a while, but it should be an interesting process for us to work through.

[24:25] Yeah, no, I mean, you know, certainly it's right in the real house of housing

[24:30] in sort of a unique space. So it's good.

[24:35] I think what's interesting, if we do find ourselves one, and can get to the 90 percent

[24:41] before the next year's CVS rounds open up, and it looked like, oh, this is really great.

[24:47] let's let's proceed and try and find funding, you know, this type of effort gets us to the point

[24:51] where it's like it's more shovel ready. We're going to aim to put a pump station out there

[24:58] later this year. Right. Some other grant funds we have. And so that just makes it even more ready

[25:02] on our site to be able to proceed. Yeah, and I would think a project like this would be incredibly

[25:07] attracted to 10 folks. That would be the hope. Yeah, but a lot of steps towards the core deciding that's

[25:13] we're gonna do but just you know being able to look down the road and things could line up

[25:17] well by behalf of this opportunity to fund this thing.

[25:20] Well it makes it look more serious about it and we'll need to get those next rounds up.

[25:27] Sounds like a plan. Well, down there.

[25:31] I saw how's the saw you perk up. I know. I want to take it thunder.

[25:34] Well, I can't. It's hard to lay down. It's not done. It's gonna know.

[25:39] That's right. I'll make you a motion to

[25:43] provide a notice of a war to CB and Mayheart engineers

[25:47] and allow the town manager to execute

[25:48] a contract for services as discussed.

[25:51] I'll second that.

[25:52] All right, I'll let you second that.

[25:54] Any other discussion?

[25:56] Oh, those in favor?

[25:58] All right, again, here's hands up to.

[25:59] We're good there, all right.

[26:02] The

[26:05] workforce housing RFB, all right, next.

[26:12] The time I wrote this, I didn't zero in with the recommendation.

[26:16] I also didn't end up able to circle back with Stephen before today since Friday, but the

[26:25] biggest thing with this one is there were two companies Escort really close and one half

[26:31] up point.

[26:33] The difference in price, however, should we want to try and get to the 30 percent, and it's

[26:42] Well, close to the archetype architects proposed getting us to 30% at 110,000.

[26:49] We're a CV mahar engineers were proposing the cost of 52, 80.

[26:56] This money's coming from the county arpefunds.

[26:59] Yeah, okay.

[27:00] We have 230,000 that was awarded to us.

[27:02] The idea was that we would put money towards, it was going to be two parcels and we weren't able

[27:07] to get where we needed to on securing an interest in one of them, and these three parcels

[27:15] actually are all owned by coastal rivers and their willing partners to kind of see

[27:21] through what that corner could look like up here at school or at church in Maine.

[27:28] So I think the half a point more with architect archetype, so you can look through there if

[27:34] hadn't just to kind of see where some of the scoring exceeded the other one. But generally,

[27:40] I think it was more in what they presented, the graphics, some of the projects they've done.

[27:46] You know, the idea was to look at workforce housing, that site's a little more unique in that

[27:52] there is a commercial business there. And so it kind of opened up a little bit. It's like, well,

[27:56] maybe there could be a little bit of both. And so looking at those companies and kind of what they've

[28:02] submitted to see what the projects they have worked on. I think those, you know, architect

[28:07] archetypes, if I remember, had a few more of those kind of mixed use projects that they

[28:11] were showing, which was kind of intriguing.

[28:13] And I'm familiar with architects.

[28:15] Oh, okay.

[28:16] Yeah.

[28:16] Cause I, in a previous life, I was on a board that was the Westburg Housing Development Board,

[28:26] which was the sister agency to the Westburg Housing Association, the Westburg Housing Authority.

[28:31] And they did a lot of work for them and do so many stuff.

[28:35] And so it's very well regarded and do good work.

[28:37] So, whatever that's worth.

[28:40] Yeah. Yeah.

[28:41] If you separate the cost piece just and look at the technical scoring,

[28:45] just need to bring it up because they did have a half point higher on that.

[28:51] And I think trying to work within the grant funds,

[28:56] this is not an engineer's estimate or a contractor's estimate

[29:00] to put the pump, the lift station in at the fire station, but we're assuming about 130,

[29:05] 135,000 for that. If we went in with architect architects at 110 to get to the 30%, we'd be

[29:17] cutting into that a little bit. That said, if CB Mahars 90% cost is 120, we'd also be cutting into it,

[29:28] And the reserve account for the building fund out there has been anticipating the sewer upgrade anyways

[29:34] So I think that gives us a little more flexibility if we went with that company again on this one

[29:40] To be able to get potentially get to 90% again our major goal was to get to at least 30

[29:45] Yeah, but I think that was just a little bit more safe to say a little bit more

[29:48] If you can get that pump station there, that's a huge step forward

[29:53] And that would be good for the fire department too. They needed anyways

[29:58] just happening right there in the head.

[30:00] That would check, too, with Bob. Yeah, if it's not that, it'll be a new week's field and system coming out of the building. And so I think it just it's timing is such that. We've had a conversation with sanitary district about the possibility of. I was Scott, I mean, it'd be a private. Infrastructure up and on that driveway. But they just have to accept it. So yeah, we did we'd be have the ability to work with them to tap into the line that's out of the road. We just need to work through obviously and plan and coordinate all that. But we're not asking them to build that line.

[30:29] and there'd be our line so I understand it. Similar we've got lines down in the parking lot we

[30:36] own now and a small lift station down there by the bathroom. Okay so I mean we want to try and

[30:44] envision you know I think we put in here anywhere from four to twelve units dwelling units essentially

[30:51] and so we're trying to just we just need a model you know what that flow is going to be for that kind

[30:57] max need in there. If that were all built out fully. And so I was kind of, I'll work on the,

[31:03] we're planning on doing a design build and it's a pretty straightforward project to put that

[31:09] listation in in terms of a construction. You don't need to go to do a full engineering.

[31:13] But to do a design build and work with a contractor that can then work with us on the fly,

[31:18] essentially, to do the small enough project we could do that. And the question then becomes,

[31:23] do we do this driveway at the same time? And that's not part of this grant.

[31:27] Yeah, but no, but that's to be considered like that. That's right. What's going on here?

[31:31] Everything's terrible. Yeah, I don't know. It'll really survive much from another winter.

[31:35] I don't know. It's pretty hard right now. Yeah. That's pretty rough shape. So we have to definitely

[31:40] keep consider that and go there and take stuff off. That's time to do it. Right. Yeah.

[31:48] So didn't have it in there, but would at this point if we're going to try and make the most

[31:52] of what we've got for funding and recommend even the hard again on. Oh, there were

[31:56] We're going to have to point each other to you.

[31:58] And we've worked with them prior to this.

[32:00] What did I know?

[32:01] No.

[32:02] No, I'm not talking about it.

[32:03] Once again, I'm familiar with this company, too.

[32:05] Yeah, once again, they were fairly, at least in great

[32:08] remain there.

[32:09] Oh, you worked with the CB Mark.

[32:11] I haven't been on it.

[32:13] Which fits worked with them directly.

[32:15] But they're a company that I'm aware of.

[32:18] I've only heard of them.

[32:19] I've not worked with them.

[32:20] Well, it's all one day and now.

[32:21] We've heard a lot of work.

[32:23] I don't know if that's worth anything.

[32:24] Well, it's worth $50,000 right now, so yeah, that makes sense, and then maybe some continuity

[32:34] too where they're doing a reward on the other one, and they're working on two.

[32:39] Yeah, I mean, you can get that far ahead in terms of the price a little bit, so I think

[32:43] that's huge.

[32:44] Yeah.

[32:44] And it's funny to just make sense.

[32:45] Yeah, absolutely.

[32:46] That's so.

[32:47] Yeah.

[32:48] Cool.

[32:49] I don't have any more questions on this.

[32:53] You know what that would add?

[32:54] Sure, you have a smoke.

[32:56] I'll move to provide a notice of a word to CV and my heart,

[33:00] and allow the time-manager to execute a contract for services.

[33:03] And that's for the workforce passing design.

[33:07] Awesome. Thank you, Dan.

[33:08] Second. Second.

[33:12] Any other discussion?

[33:14] Very good. All those in favor?

[33:18] Thank you.

[33:19] Going to a lot of stuff happening.

[33:20] But all right, what do we have next?

[33:23] I'm a cherry.

[33:27] Ladies here.

[33:28] Able to make contact with all three contractors

[33:31] that submitted business the second time around contract

[33:35] start dates April 15th.

[33:37] I was one of the questions about the start right off here

[33:40] in two weeks.

[33:42] I'll let her take it from here in terms

[33:45] of the recommendation of the trustee.

[33:47] Hi, Lorraine.

[33:48] Hi.

[33:49] Hi.

[33:49] Yeah, so we had the free bids and NJK and JNH, the current contractor and the Henry

[34:05] landscaping and the committee is unanimously through this recommending NJK contract.

[34:15] So,

[34:18] the reason because there's one that's cheaper, what's the reason that separates it?

[34:24] We thought that we do think that NJK is more qualified, more appropriate.

[34:36] We had a series of questions, what did I eat, questions here, and that we asked each

[34:43] on factor afterwards. And for all intents and purposes, all three people have the same

[34:49] answers to the questions. Until we got to the last questions, which is that they have any questions

[34:57] and they varied a little bit in their questions. And we just thought that they were the most

[35:04] appropriate. I know it's not too much more than the cheaper one, but

[35:10] Yeah, and the reason why the incumbent wasn't more competitive, I'm sorry, because the incumbent

[35:16] is J&H, right?

[35:19] Yeah.

[35:19] And any sense why they weren't more competitive?

[35:23] My sense is you think they've done a good job with this one.

[35:26] Well, they they they've had the contract two or three times now that means at least I'm sorry

[35:40] We felt the service was above and beyond,

[35:43] that pretty extraordinary, actually.

[35:46] And the last year or two,

[35:48] that quality has fallen off.

[35:51] And I think it's like other employers,

[35:54] now, difficulty with staff and employees and stuff.

[36:00] And plus which, I mean, they're pretty pricey now.

[36:06] Yeah, so.

[36:09] But...

[36:11] Do you address the concerns that you have with JNH's performance with this NJ pay,

[36:17] and did they step up and say, yeah, we can do that?

[36:20] Yes. And the answer is, you know, and you started evil 15.

[36:28] They all said, yes.

[36:31] They all had pretty much the same answers to how you manage your schedule.

[36:35] and if there were changes with the weather out of you with depth, and you know, this is

[36:41] a type of work that is very weather-dependent, you know, like last August and September,

[36:48] it didn't need to mold pretty much anything. I was just brown dirt out there. So,

[36:53] but in April, May, June, we get the right weather and the right water and some sunshine,

[36:59] I'm pumped at the moment of the day, just about.

[37:02] There's a state law about grass with veterans

[37:05] and how tall it can be.

[37:06] So, you know, they have to keep on it.

[37:10] The answer to the question that M.G.A. had, for me,

[37:15] was not having worked for the town before,

[37:19] how do we adapt with fumals?

[37:22] And then what do you do with, there's a fumar?

[37:23] Well, I thought that was a good question, Frank.

[37:25] What was it, yeah?

[37:26] Yeah.

[37:26] because and our procedure is either Dusty Henkiger, my call, let's us know that we're going to be

[37:35] burying somebody on Thursday and we could you not mow on Thursday could you maybe come on Tuesday

[37:40] so it looks nice but not run them over and they're trying to be that in the background.

[37:46] Yeah and I thought that was a question for somebody that hadn't worked for us before so it's shown

[37:52] some thought process to me.

[37:54] Lauren, where are they out of?

[37:56] Jefferson.

[37:57] Jefferson, okay.

[37:57] Do I hear it?

[37:59] The Henry's is quite a ways away, right?

[38:01] Or does it hand in?

[38:03] It's like banger.

[38:04] It's like an hour and a half?

[38:05] Yeah, 40, yeah.

[38:06] And he told me one day and said, hey, I'm just driving past this town.

[38:10] You don't know how far away it is.

[38:11] I don't even know where it was.

[38:13] Yeah, to me, just like where you're talking about flexibility, you know.

[38:17] And even once cheaper, but it was seen that far away.

[38:21] they wouldn't have as much flexibility, you know,

[38:24] I don't really have somebody local anyway,

[38:25] but it might be tricky to reschedule something

[38:28] coming out of Hamden, you know.

[38:31] So you didn't say that majority of their work

[38:33] is from Camden down to Booth Bay,

[38:37] so there's a lot in the coast, but, you know,

[38:41] they did put the bid in before passing

[38:43] as the gas went up incredibly, too.

[38:46] So, anyway, so the committees happy with NJK,

[38:50] Okay, that's what you're recommending.

[38:54] And it comes in under what we're initially budgeting and what we were paid last year.

[38:59] Right, yeah.

[39:00] Just last question.

[39:01] Did they provide references and do you check any references?

[39:05] We know some of the references and as you know, you're not going to give a reference to

[39:10] somebody that's going to say, oh my god, he did a terrible job.

[39:12] They're all in a state, great.

[39:15] NJK has experience in sanitary work in Connecticut for it, but they've been up here since 2019, so they have insurance, they have the right equipment, that kind of thing, everybody does.

[39:36] Sounds good.

[39:36] but it's after rhythm, yeah.

[39:40] On the commotion to accept NJK's bid

[39:44] for cemetery moving to authorize the time manager

[39:47] to execute the contract.

[39:49] Circuit, thank you Tom, may I have a discussion on that?

[39:52] No good, all those in favor?

[39:54] And yeah, all right, that was good.

[39:57] Yeah, I hope that you guys are happy with them.

[40:00] We'll see.

[40:01] Get the trash fit to get out of home.

[40:04] All right, so we have two more or the two additions

[40:06] here, if you do have a public catering permit application. Now, Andy, this one doesn't have

[40:14] the legal, licensing legal name on it, right? Yeah, with them, get them filled fill it out

[40:19] for us before it gets into the state. I'm done with them to do it. I don't think anybody's seen

[40:23] the shadow. No, that's not about it. It's, uh, I can't remember. Laurie, the spirit, Paulina,

[40:29] Laura, you know, she's come for us before the post events, or cater events on behalf of some,

[40:33] and this events at the Coastal River.

[40:36] Oh, why is that the way?

[40:37] That's the way.

[40:38] The one reason we did have to put it on now,

[40:40] is I think it's before the next meeting.

[40:42] Yeah.

[40:43] No, that's another one that came in from a different,

[40:45] but that's why I'm still for that one.

[40:47] I mean, we can,

[40:47] and this is just a one day thing, right?

[40:49] Remember one of it's assistant.

[40:51] Yeah, shit.

[40:53] And we can always move it or approve it upon.

[40:56] It just has to be felt out with a name on there,

[40:58] no, the legal name, but it's related to like a fundraiser.

[41:03] for the wire. I don't know where it's for the wire. It gets for the wire. Yeah,

[41:16] I'm with that.

[41:17] I mean, that's fun. I was on the issue. Yeah. So they're held by catering permit for, um,

[41:23] I don't know. That's what they're all going into. It was like for the contact.

[41:26] Is it April 8th?

[41:30] It's April 8th.

[41:35] It's April 8th.

[41:36] It's April 8th.

[41:38] We're doing marketing support for that.

[41:41] Oh yeah.

[41:42] All right.

[41:43] So I'll make a motion to approve the call-by-catering permit for this special event at the

[41:49] Y.

[41:50] And you guys can plug in the legal name.

[41:53] Yeah, we got all that. So yeah, all right. Tom, Tom, seconded, any other discussion? Hey,

[41:59] all those in favor?

[42:01] Thank you.

[42:02] Andrew?

[42:02] No.

[42:03] All right.

[42:03] Yeah.

[42:04] That was a little secret. There's no legal name, but we can, yeah, do that.

[42:09] Yeah.

[42:10] That's technicality.

[42:12] Yeah.

[42:14] I don't know what it is.

[42:15] It's healthy kids.

[42:16] It's why I had the stuff before.

[42:18] So, uh, and you have a planning board?

[42:21] Yes, I'm going to Michael had met with someone from the community about getting involved.

[42:27] She had met with me previously just generally about getting involved.

[42:30] And I mentioned a few committees that had some openings.

[42:33] But Natalie Allen, Westview resident, Westview Road resident is interested in serving on the planning board.

[42:45] What's open on the planning board right now?

[42:47] There's one full member seat currently.

[42:51] Dan Day has been stepping in more regularly as an alternate.

[42:54] it. I think we just assumed step back into that role. I don't know if anyone's taken out

[43:03] papers and there's two seats up this year. This is a planning for it.

[43:08] So it's just,

[43:09] there's no point outside those are a point about you. There's two that are up this year.

[43:13] We have to find out before June ends. So for July appointments, all right, not elected.

[43:18] Right. Right. You know, there's two. One is there or the, it's only good until, yeah.

[43:23] So this is just a temporary appointment to should be fill in. Yeah, whatever that full member seat is whatever that term or ask, I can't remember what I'll say.

[43:31] This right we're pointing a vacancy. Yeah, that does that that's a pretty obvious like it's elected position, but with a vacancy.

[43:37] Did she say in her? I don't call it an application, but in her comments, does she have a background in planning or real estate?

[43:44] She's, she's a teacher and guy, a guy, a guidance counselor at the great salt base in

[43:52] neighbor lives for a nice person, smart person, I don't know about her other background

[43:57] by the source planning, but I can speak to her character anyway.

[44:03] Yeah, she's one of the folks that kind of dives all the way in on things she gets involved

[44:06] in.

[44:07] Oh yeah, she's a tense.

[44:09] You know, and it's, you have to be pretty great to learn to, I mean, there's a lot

[44:12] to understand uh and then look at with the plan of board review stuff. I mean it's one that can

[44:17] quickly go sideways for the community if you're not paying attention. Right. Yeah.

[44:24] And you said,

[44:25] and Michael, this top, but there are any comfortable. Yeah. Good fit. The apartment. Okay.

[44:32] Right. Right. And she's just filling a seat until, yeah, I remember that bacon. See,

[44:37] that service might be, might be the shareboard, it might be. Yeah. I don't know what the year was on

[44:41] that particular one. I should have put that in and didn't, I don't think to look at that before we

[44:45] brought it. No, it's a very, it's a minimum is still here.

[44:50] Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm

[44:52] qualms

[44:55] on that. No, I think it's short term and talk to you and we'll find out where

[44:58] There's jazz at the appetite.

[45:00] Thank you for this sort of thing. Yeah. And, yeah, sure, we can blame Tom, because he said, absolutely, it was done. Same road. So, yeah, it's, I don't know if you're going to have Tom. All right. All right. Um, you know, it's, uh, you said Natalie Allen? Yes. Uh, they L L. L. A. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I'll make a motion to appoint Natalie Allen to the open. He finished my motion. I was going to make the motion.

[45:27] That's right. Do you want to make that an emotional point, Natalie Allen, to the interim position on the planning board?

[45:36] Don't take over my motion to let him out. I'll second you now.

[45:41] Any more discussion? All those in favor?

[45:46] Andrew, actually glad you're not here in person, the circus.

[45:51] Oh, you guys are a barrel of fun.

[45:53] It's just it is filled the remaining in term of whatever the Lincoln seat is. Yeah, we don't know the date yet. It could be three months or so. But there's a there's a current term. It is. Yeah, remaining term of the current full member.

[46:07] All right.

[46:09] That one.

[46:11] Okay. That's good.

[46:12] official action. I forbid there. All right. Let's move on to some budget committee nominations

[46:23] or budget committee. Yeah, these are just a discussion. The more it would be approved

[46:33] next meeting. So there's still some time if there's other interest as well. Oh, yeah.

[46:37] we do have four folks that have already reached out. I said the email I think before the last

[46:44] budget workshop. I mean, they had in almost everyone that's on year it replied.

[46:50] Before but right after at the very least at the latest, I mean, I think only one came in after

[46:56] just after. So just letting you know, there are four folks that are interested. We're going to have

[47:02] one seat with a term ending June of 28, three seats for the primary voting seats,

[47:09] three of them ending June of 29, and two alternatives seats which are one-year

[47:14] requirements. So six names could be nominated, filling various term links and

[47:21] enrolls. So maybe I have four folks, all four of them were on this year, two of them

[47:27] alternate role. Yeah. So I think that's great. A couple more here tonight. Yeah, it involves

[47:32] first interest and remaining. Okay. Okay. And so it's possible they could be a couple more people

[47:39] than yeah, of those that were currently on there or anyone else in the community that has an interest

[47:44] and yeah, if we leave that door open until the 15th at least. It would be nice if we could see it.

[47:48] Right now we have four units. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, it would be nice if we had a full complement of

[47:53] So all six positions, I think it's like the confusing

[47:57] certain meetings with the alternates in the full voting

[47:59] members, but it was great to have 11.

[48:02] I don't know the last time the Halloween folks sit on that.

[48:04] That's just a bit of a lot.

[48:06] Yeah, yeah.

[48:07] And there's two other folks who's

[48:11] terms that appear to be out, but we haven't heard back

[48:13] from them.

[48:14] Is that correct?

[48:14] I have not.

[48:15] They're aware.

[48:16] I have not heard back.

[48:17] OK.

[48:17] All right.

[48:22] OK.

[48:22] There is a good moment.

[48:26] There is air.

[48:29] I think we're seeing

[48:32] Dan knew how it worked with discussions.

[48:37] Yeah, I just offered a little,

[48:38] I don't know if there's anything that the board wanted to fix based on from that last

[48:42] joint meeting. When Dan wrote a pound,

[48:44] I think questions you might have,

[48:46] or for the board to add a week to think about it,

[48:50] kind of next steps, anything you need

[48:52] Want from us time you were getting caught up. They'll you've been on it right along. Yeah, yeah, you know

[48:59] They're from there from the guys and yeah, and I didn't make the last one and there was not a year

[49:03] So I wanted to live to here, but you guys I'm a spa but anything

[49:08] Well, I might be too soon to have any thoughts on that but yeah, I had a discussion a little bit afterwards

[49:14] And I think that we ought to lay out for public

[49:19] like a list of all the assumptions underlying all the cost factors and then maybe worst case

[49:26] best case, likely case for each one, and then run some of the models on that to see how

[49:34] decisions might change depending on what view you take, whether we think it's a likely case

[49:38] or worst case kind of situation, but it was very difficult to absorb all that in that meeting

[49:47] because you're looking at the resulting numbers but you don't know what the

[49:51] assumptions are behind the numbers, okay. So you can't judge whether or not you

[49:56] think those are realistic assumptions. So it might be just a work in

[49:59] session. There's a lot done back there. Maybe it's just a work in session or

[50:03] Saturday. I would like that actually because I tried to get into the spreadsheet

[50:08] when I was away and I just had my iPad and I just said and then you're supposed

[50:15] be on vacation. I have to look at it. And then I just realized that I probably needed

[50:22] the option ever workshop to go through it, and with just sort of making sure understand

[50:28] all of the assumptions underlying it would make sense. And if it makes sense, even if

[50:32] just a couple of us to do a workshop, just to make sure you're sure to get behind the

[50:39] the formulas and write and understand the assumptions and driving it.

[50:43] So, yeah, this is a lot to dig through when I'm back there.

[50:49] So, yeah, I don't think anyone's expecting, you know,

[50:51] they're just in a week out.

[50:52] Yeah, I think you guys have been very good at it.

[50:55] Yeah.

[50:56] And that's really been the benefit of some time into it,

[50:58] but there's still a lot of lots on back.

[51:00] So, yeah, I'm definitely going to take their,

[51:04] if they're time to be able to get any questions out of them,

[51:07] answer to what not.

[51:08] So yeah, I think when you get to a public presentation, you know, you begin with what the

[51:14] assumptions are and then you show what the results are, but you don't start with the

[51:18] results and try to figure out, you know, for the people to try to figure out what's behind

[51:23] them. But

[51:26] as I said in the meeting, there's a lot of work you guys put in and you have all the formulas

[51:33] just a matter of using them. You know, you can tweak, you can just put in new factors

[51:38] and blow them right out. So I don't think it's that much work, but maybe I'm wrong.

[51:44] The book sheets.

[51:48] Yeah,

[51:54] the parking numbers there, from both sides.

[51:57] Nobody missed Andrea that one. If you had Darrell, just Darrell, Darrell and Darrell.

[52:03] I would really suggest that we have some kind of a workshop to really go through it so that we all

[52:10] understand and can be able to present it to people and be 100% behind it.

[52:23] Yeah, I think that's what, yeah, what I'm hearing from you, and you said,

[52:26] he went for stillness and coffee on a Saturday, and we could work through it.

[52:30] We were right at the old time or something.

[52:32] I think that's all right.

[52:38] No, sounds good, just figure out how you want to make that happen, because I really need to walk through

[52:44] of the charts and the spreadsheets and stuff.

[52:47] Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Just a sense for you mentioned Saturday we ran office. You know,

[52:55] I put that on. Okay. Sunday. You can do it. Sunday. Saturday. Sunday. Well, I mean,

[53:01] everybody's busy during the week. So I might be, you know, so perhaps a measure of an anticipated

[53:07] time frame, like, you know, two week, two hours, three hours. I mean, what do you, my set out, there's

[53:12] a willingness to sit down for and then that helps me think like, okay, it's a two bar workshop in

[53:17] in terms of like a Wednesday night, two times,

[53:19] or is it truly, like maybe a Saturday,

[53:21] just let's sit down for hours,

[53:23] if we need to, to work six to eight hours,

[53:25] you can go get to the bathroom.

[53:26] You brought it, yeah, yeah.

[53:27] You can probably do a lot.

[53:28] I can go two, three hours,

[53:29] but I prefer to do it on a Saturday.

[53:32] Yeah, there's a couple hours.

[53:35] I mean, I'm thinking about the meetings that we've had,

[53:37] they've put a couple hours and you're kind of,

[53:41] yeah, I would think these two hours, if not three.

[53:43] So but we can we did would it make sense to do it sooner as post-salator as well? I say yes.

[53:52] We'll look at calendars. Yeah, but we should now. They're sad if we can. Well, you weren't at that meeting, but

[53:58] it was decided that we weren't going to make it this year. We will hold. Oh, sorry. We're coming towards.

[54:05] Getting towards. Thank you. Yeah. We bring it all together for November time frame to

[54:12] to then determine whatever we're going to put something in the budget for the following

[54:17] year.

[54:18] So, yeah, we originally was trying to make it for the June vote, and that got killed.

[54:25] Okay.

[54:26] Mainly the reason we just talked about it.

[54:27] We need more information, more detail.

[54:30] Absolutely.

[54:31] So, the urgency, what I'm saying, the urgency is not there right now.

[54:37] Yeah.

[54:38] Yeah.

[54:38] Yeah, it's what I'm talking about.

[54:40] I don't know if I'm kind of Saturday.

[54:42] I think that's what I'm talking about.

[54:44] Okay.

[54:46] Downers for something else and go for the next one.

[54:48] I mean, I would.

[54:49] I also think that we need to do it sooner than later,

[54:53] because we really need to get the public buy-in

[54:57] and that's going to be education or public.

[55:01] Yeah.

[55:10] We have a bunch.

[55:13] Yeah, just giving you a draft of the warrant is the numbers from all the psych ward in the

[55:18] WebG community have come in.

[55:21] Get the charter minor revisions there, I think that the school system is dead and it passed

[55:30] last year.

[55:31] It just didn't have enough people ultimately voting.

[55:33] Right.

[55:34] Now the vote count was too low, but it did pass, so this year shouldn't have a much higher

[55:38] hook out and turn out at the polls. Yeah, that should be able to.

[55:44] That'll be enough language in there to reflect on how we actually have in place to now.

[55:50] And did any other because of the provider agencies, this is it then.

[55:57] That's what came in. We got Leslie real quick. Do you have anything coming that you know

[56:01] him last week? Is the deadline, when's the deadline? By way of board policy, it was the third

[56:08] Friday and March yeah okay so that's gone by and if someone brings a valid

[56:15] petition you know there is still a short window in which the state would stay

[56:20] locked over the following could be considered okay I mean this wouldn't have

[56:26] met the the board's policy yeah because there's some that aren't here that we're

[56:29] there last year I think two two yeah because of it you have in place of those a

[56:34] couple again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Think you look very

[56:38] beautiful when mid coast conservancy that we're on last year that are not this

[56:42] year. And I asked when that and all the meeting news.

[56:46] Um, I think you know, I assumed you were potentially aiming for the Wednesday

[56:51] the day after the, yeah, the polls that fall under intense.

[56:56] I mean, um, it's still there. No,

[56:59] No, if you're 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th.

[57:03] 10th at the library.

[57:06] Yeah, Becky did reach out.

[57:07] Library is available at the space that the board does want to go to this year on the 10th space for him.

[57:13] Yeah.

[57:15] I'm sorry.

[57:19] I mentioned this a particle 16.

[57:22] Yes, I did.

[57:23] Did you do it already?

[57:24] Yeah, the headings are.

[57:25] I don't know why there were two charts that had the budget degrees like board columns.

[57:29] The headings reversed the values were.

[57:32] I was seeing it.

[57:33] What's the thing?

[57:34] Yeah, I was carried on through.

[57:35] Yeah.

[57:35] And we know the capacity at the library, because last time I was there for kind of a meeting,

[57:39] it didn't seem like they had a lot of capacity.

[57:42] Yeah, that's a, I guess, 60 person room I want to say or so.

[57:46] I can't remember off time ahead.

[57:47] I mean, we had, we had, we had close to 40 last year.

[57:51] Yeah.

[57:51] There was her now less than that.

[57:53] Good.

[57:54] That's about what it usually is.

[57:56] That's it.

[57:56] She's implying it's going to be a bigger figure, right?

[57:59] Did you just say that?

[58:02] I mean, it'd be nice to know that that'd be our problem, but there's a decent number

[58:06] of seats.

[58:06] If our problem is that there's people standing because we filled all seats in the library,

[58:09] that's a great problem.

[58:11] We'll move to bigger places.

[58:13] When it's at the GSB and one of those large terms, it looks like there's nobody there because

[58:18] there's 30 or 40 people in this large space there, that's 40 or 30 or 40 people, at least

[58:23] it feels like what we're talking about.

[58:26] Yeah.

[58:26] It's a little bit better.

[58:27] It's a little bit better too.

[58:29] you know it's I think it's it's it's I'll say it's more intimate I guess it's wrong

[58:33] yeah I know it's the right word yeah I think that folks should want to add their questions

[58:36] on the scene like yeah I mean not all are way from the path of the room yeah I'm trying to

[58:40] yeah I think if you find that you know 150 people on our 10 that'd be great we would that's

[58:44] a good look at it up but yeah that'd be great but yeah the theater or you're not going to know

[58:48] you know the game or I had it the reason right to John but it was on our radar potentially the

[58:54] barn up it along the way to reach out to them to see if that would be a space that's not

[58:57] You could be a venue. It's a bigger space there, yeah.

[59:01] It's a solar radar, I don't think of other community buildings out there that

[59:04] maybe could house that type of meeting. Yeah, that's definitely good.

[59:08] It's a bigger and if there turns out that there are too many people, you know,

[59:14] there's direct them to March next door. They're like on a stand.

[59:17] That's a great idea. I have them.

[59:21] That's a really good idea. Yeah, you'd have to table or pause your meeting there so we could pick

[59:25] everything up and move over but yeah you might have to watch a movie first and you have

[59:30] cash bar and catering over there.

[59:35] Anything out there for article for them? What was noted

[59:38] both there? I would stick up on the the headings there for the. I do have Amanda reviewing a

[59:46] couple. We got to put

[59:50] one in there for the the tiff. We have an admin in there for that.

[59:54] the commitment process takes that into account, but there should be something on that.

[1:00:00] And there generally towns will have something on there that authorizes the board to be able to expand or to appropriate. So I just, I have a review to see if we need to add something in there because we do have tiff fund with money going to it.

[1:00:16] The auditors have noted it and found an attack to inform, so it's been taken care of that way.

[1:00:21] I don't make sure we're not missing a piece.

[1:00:23] Yeah, we may just go to legalities, we may have to have something voted by the legislative body.

[1:00:28] And the other one, it was one of the, oh yes, there's, I have her also looking at article,

[1:00:36] as it's noted on here, the number, I know I need to adjust, but on page 32, 36 article,

[1:00:42] 33 and 34, 32, 33, 34, and we discussed briefly in the budget review process the payroll

[1:00:53] liability reserve instead of raising funds for it to put in that possibility of considering

[1:00:58] any, allowing the board to transfer any unspent funds that were in the health insurance lines,

[1:01:04] given that this is the largest purpose for us, could just be moved at the end of the year.

[1:01:10] you consider carry forwards at the end of the year, usually in August or so, and so that was the

[1:01:15] idea with that. If you find out ourselves that there were unspent health insurance premiums that

[1:01:19] were allocated or appropriated for this year, and it will be the case, you know, it probably works,

[1:01:25] for example, and then take the buyout value, and we had budgeted for full family coverage. So

[1:01:33] that alone is going to be pretty close to the appropriation we put in this year.

[1:01:39] So just that's an article that's new and how we're asking that to be considered and then the article 33 is a threat in there.

[1:01:48] To redefine there's the partners of parking lot reserve, the parking lot, EDA improvement project done.

[1:01:55] And it's like, what would you do with the balance of that?

[1:01:57] So just to put it out there to restate the purpose and redefine that purpose and I'm proposing that on what we've talked about that.

[1:02:06] like what does that actually mean?

[1:02:08] You know, the parking lot reserves and the starting,

[1:02:10] I mean, it makes sense because they're all,

[1:02:12] you know, it's the parking lot proper.

[1:02:15] And then there's the auxiliary parts of it.

[1:02:16] And actually, I'm wrong.

[1:02:18] There's a parking lot reserve in the waterfront reserve.

[1:02:21] And the waterfront one, I think, is the one

[1:02:23] that was just for the EDA project.

[1:02:24] That one's still a question.

[1:02:25] But there's a parking lot reserve

[1:02:26] that I don't really know what it's instated.

[1:02:28] We're going to have to create it.

[1:02:29] All right.

[1:02:30] And so with the EV charges down there,

[1:02:32] with the bathroom now built and with the need

[1:02:34] to make sure we're keeping up on all those things,

[1:02:36] the reserve that we have on the books just gets clarified what it how they spend

[1:02:41] the money in it and it finds it it finds it a little bit better so it makes sense

[1:02:46] but those those structures are mostly fully closed out the EDA project we'll see

[1:02:50] what's actually left in the water firmers and then can take that one up the next

[1:02:55] schedule and then the the EV that's another one that trying to work that in a way

[1:03:02] that yeah if we've netted any profit on that from the revenues there that it would go into

[1:03:08] reserve you would go into that parking lot reserve if it was you know if then it was we weren't

[1:03:13] envisioning sending up a separate reserve for replacement of the he would do it that way if you

[1:03:19] want you know and I think I think in that I'm in the parking lot reserve I guess what you're saying can

[1:03:25] you be charged fall into that as a general reserve for yeah no I get it starting with a balance

[1:03:31] already and I just didn't know if it made sense to just kind of pull all those

[1:03:35] things that are in the back part a lot into one reserve. It's not a deal to have

[1:03:38] another one. We can modify that other article to remove the end of it. It's

[1:03:43] broader. It's more flexible. Well, that's just, yeah, that's a good deal. Yeah, I mean, well,

[1:03:47] I like that you're going to use it for that purpose than any other purpose. So I'd say

[1:03:52] combine and create your funding source for it as well. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the

[1:03:57] Yes.

[1:03:58] And hopefully it's an awesome transfer money.

[1:04:00] Awesome.

[1:04:00] Revenue.

[1:04:01] Yeah.

[1:04:03] Yeah.

[1:04:04] Okay.

[1:04:04] Well, we've seen an optic with the chargers at all.

[1:04:08] Everything.

[1:04:09] Emerson anything?

[1:04:10] Yeah.

[1:04:11] What do you see?

[1:04:11] It's so much so good.

[1:04:12] So we are still.

[1:04:14] I mean, we weren't sure one.

[1:04:16] This is going to make this wish that we are still in the small service space.

[1:04:20] We have not yet moved into the medium service.

[1:04:22] That's good for us so far.

[1:04:23] It's cheaper at the moment.

[1:04:25] and once we move in that medium service rate,

[1:04:28] we will not be able to move back down,

[1:04:30] even if, you know,

[1:04:31] even if you reduce the usage.

[1:04:33] Yeah, because we will be paying

[1:04:35] for the potential capacity people like this

[1:04:38] that will be spent by these chargers.

[1:04:41] They'll be, you know, the highest possible chart per month.

[1:04:44] And so even if it is, you know,

[1:04:48] seasonally, next winter, next year's focus season

[1:04:50] being lower, we will be in that medium service rate.

[1:04:53] So glad to be in SGS so far. We continue to be making money. I think last time we checked

[1:04:59] in your $1400 raise for now at $2,400 roughly. So that's over 4,000 kilograms of CO2 diverted,

[1:05:09] which is fantastic. So so far so good. I think Andy, you were saying that the person,

[1:05:17] this just interesting bit that the person who is charging the longest is coming from an hour and

[1:05:22] halfway. Thorndike where we're getting folks who presumably are working

[1:05:29] downtown and work on by that for some time, but a first news coming in

[1:05:33] charging and is incurring the fee. The extension fee is coming from a long

[1:05:38] ways away. So I'm curious to see how that pattern if it will continue for

[1:05:42] months and you know we reached the three-month mark on March 14th so we're just

[1:05:52] certain some major changes. Well, you can even feel it is for people showing up. It's starting to

[1:05:58] ramp up. The shift is starting now. You will have to be, I know, just parking in general is an

[1:06:05] issue downtown, but the quiet time right now has been, but maybe we can get some information out

[1:06:13] of the folks, hey, I don't know what those are for. We're making a parking lot that will be built by

[1:06:20] time distributed, and hopefully by the chamber, we're going to send it out to businesses downtown.

[1:06:25] And that will show the special designation of the EV Charter Taxmen Committee is available.

[1:06:30] So that hopefully helps spread the word. You know, it'd be great eventually not this summer,

[1:06:35] potentially next summer, to try and work with the businesses with the chamber to see if there's

[1:06:39] some incentive, you know, with folks who park there and visit downtown. But for now, it's just,

[1:06:44] you know, getting information out there in the office out there. It'll be interesting how

[1:06:49] summer travel and the number of visitors are going to be impacted by the higher gas prices.

[1:06:54] Yeah, as a city, yeah, curious, nothing's going to play out, yeah.

[1:06:59] But it won't impact the EV Charter, so because they don't need to worry about the gas, so

[1:07:05] I just throw that out there. It doesn't need to be used, but I'm sorry.

[1:07:11] And electricity rates are going to be...

[1:07:13] No, we're getting the cut on the insurance mission right there.

[1:07:16] I have lost it for I'm sure for you think you're gonna get money back. No, I can't. I shouldn't.

[1:07:21] Hopefully the main thing is no other people. Yeah, does

[1:07:25] anybody have any discussion items to add to the even and real call of

[1:07:31] um underneath? Yeah. Oh

[1:07:34] It's getting better and better every day. I can walk around the house without my cane. I'm still

[1:07:40] definitely on a cane out of the house

[1:07:43] And I'm anticipating going back to teaching next week, so I'll be out and about a lot more.

[1:07:53] All right. Great. Thank you.

[1:07:55] Thank you.

[1:07:56] So I wanted to ask Andy, what is the status of getting a better speed limit sign on that roundabout?

[1:08:10] Oh, well they let us know back in December that in the coming weeks back in December they're putting them in. So it actually came up when we were walking a couple of weeks ago through Main Street with some folks from DOT and the regional transportation engineer, I think he is you had mentioned he said, I thought they were supposed to put them in just the day before the day of.

[1:08:33] And so I actually haven't gone back basically aren't they aren't in yet. I take it.

[1:08:40] Okay, so he thought they were going into a couple of weeks ago and at that point.

[1:08:44] So I imagine they're any day now.

[1:08:47] Okay, well, I haven't driven for a month, so you're right, they could be in.

[1:08:54] But as of a couple of days ago, they weren't there.

[1:08:57] I guess they're this afternoon.

[1:08:59] Yeah, thank you for bringing that up.

[1:09:01] that's yeah a lot of folks have asked about that and question is Andy didn't we use to put

[1:09:09] signage on water street about weights of trucks because our street is a mess and I didn't see a

[1:09:16] sign up this year saying that you know over weight I saw a sign out of the corner as you turn left

[1:09:25] coming from mainstream before you get to water street it was a little black white sign about

[1:09:31] country. Yeah, I don't remember what it said, but it has to be just past parking lot entrance

[1:09:37] because you have free trucks coming in out of there. We usually put kind of at the intersection

[1:09:42] across street. Okay. Yeah, that's where I saw it. You did see one, Tom? I mean, I live here.

[1:09:51] Okay. All right. It's not there now, but I saw it. Well, it wasn't hidden by the snow banks.

[1:09:58] That's no thanks, nothing.

[1:10:03] Well, it's good to have you back in the meeting, Andrea.

[1:10:05] We'll see you in person here.

[1:10:08] Yes, you will.

[1:10:09] Absolutely.

[1:10:10] Next week or whenever the next one is,

[1:10:12] I will be there.

[1:10:13] Absolutely.

[1:10:15] Oh, okay.

[1:10:18] Can I just let you know?

[1:10:20] I can say, hold it, get listed in the events

[1:10:23] or the uptime meetings in the report,

[1:10:26] but we do have some meetings

[1:10:28] So the PPI project's coming up, you're in control, but that'll be the 9th and the 14th are identical meetings.

[1:10:35] So, you know, just one is necessary, that'll be more than 630 at the GSE cafeteria.

[1:10:41] We can do it on outreach for it, it'll be on the town website, but we're looking forward to putting those together.

[1:10:48] Did you say 430?

[1:10:50] Yeah, 430 to 630.

[1:10:51] This was say 9s in the 14th and 14th in the 2nd set.

[1:10:55] OK.

[1:10:57] Thank you.

[1:10:58] I'm sorry.

[1:11:01] I'm

[1:11:06] sorry.

[1:11:07] I think she doesn't have parents.

[1:11:12] We need to do the handout here.

[1:11:15] Forget.

[1:11:15] Oh, that got a speaker package.

[1:11:17] Yeah, I was on the table.

[1:11:18] I did the show push committee met yesterday.

[1:11:21] Oh, man.

[1:11:21] And this was the out what.

[1:11:24] That doctor was going to be join Marie Senator to share from some of the.

[1:11:27] that they were doing the last year, about a few years ago.

[1:11:30] I know they were on there.

[1:11:31] Committee with the board was interested in the work that's

[1:11:33] going on in understanding and conflicts in the water.

[1:11:36] And you know, although, how all of that's working.

[1:11:39] So it just happened to be there in that yesterday.

[1:11:41] And I just ran the copies for you.

[1:11:42] And they do, they do want to come and present to the board

[1:11:46] and say they're always welcome.

[1:11:47] Whatever.

[1:11:48] Yeah, I'd like to know what the results of the study

[1:11:51] are.

[1:11:52] So the PhD dissertation that Sarah was leaning in today,

[1:11:56] She's the benefit of her thesis, and that was very interesting and had a lot to do with

[1:12:01] Damaskata.

[1:12:03] I would be drug wild oysters and fisheries, so that was very interesting, and it could

[1:12:07] make a great reason for it.

[1:12:10] I would say if you reach out and just act there, they would throw date out and we'll try

[1:12:16] to accommodate.

[1:12:17] They want to know me sometime.

[1:12:18] Yeah, FYI, you know, I've been involved in aquaculture for a while and just like to put another plug in for our rotary group

[1:12:26] We just provide a six hundred dollars for three aquaculture apprentices for their tools for

[1:12:33] Skunga Spey, Linton Point and Blackstone Oyster farms. Oh, it's so rotary about the tools. Yeah

[1:12:42] Gulf of Maine

[1:12:43] I mean, institute, I think that's the name of it, and they have an intern program.

[1:12:50] I mean, we write at some grants for people, things in our area.

[1:13:00] Oh, it's good.

[1:13:01] It's great, but it gives us something that's interned to us.

[1:13:07] Yeah, we love that.

[1:13:08] And those, most bananas, we're just up to date.

[1:13:13] So, why not me to add?

[1:13:18] I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,

[1:13:20] I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

[1:13:23] Lastly, you have anything to add?

[1:13:25] Pardon?

[1:13:25] You have anything to add?

[1:13:27] Do you have any comments about your t-shirt?

[1:13:29] Of course.

[1:13:31] I didn't know that.

[1:13:34] I didn't know that.

[1:13:37] I'm doing new things.

[1:13:39] I'm gonna show candy jammies, sure.

[1:13:41] We're wearing them on all special occasions.

[1:13:45] That's yours, Rose.

[1:13:47] I will show you.

[1:13:49] I don't know if you guys are coming to know.

[1:13:51] I have to take this.

[1:13:55] I'm gonna show you.

[1:13:56] I'm gonna show you guys.

[1:14:03] That's right.

[1:14:04] We love our boss.

[1:14:05] Yeah.

[1:14:07] I appreciate it.

[1:14:08] Thank you.

[1:14:08] This is just being reported.

[1:14:11] Oh, that's a low thing.

[1:14:12] It's not my boss.

[1:14:14] Do you have Marissa?

[1:14:15] Yeah.

[1:14:16] Oh, good.

[1:14:19] Well, that's it.

[1:14:20] I guess we should.

[1:14:21] That's it.

[1:14:22] That's it.

[1:14:22] I guess we should.

[1:14:22] That's it.

[1:14:23] That's it.

[1:14:24] That's it.

[1:14:25] That's it.

[1:14:25] the motion and I'll go a second. Any discussion? All those in favor? All right.

Damariscotta Select Board

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