[0:00] We'd like to welcome everyone out to our commission meeting this morning.

[0:04] It's 10 o'clock here in the commission chambers at 61 South Main Infirmington.

[0:12] We will begin with our pledge of allegiance, and we'd ask commission to come all over if she will leave this.

[0:21] We pledge allegiance to the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, what nation, under God, in the physical, with liberty and justice of our own.

[0:35] We

[0:46] appreciate your attendance this morning. We will move into our public comment period and open this up to anybody from the public that would like to step forward

[0:54] Please as a state your name in the city or from and please keep it less than three minutes time.

[1:08] Good morning, Ronald Mortensen from Bonneville.

[1:12] I wanted to address two issues quickly.

[1:15] The first one is item 13 on the agenda.

[1:18] The MOU at the Department of Public Safety for sharing license,

[1:23] plate reader information for safety purposes.

[1:26] As you know, the issue of license plate readers

[1:29] has a public really riled up.

[1:32] I mean, there's a lot of discussion going on on social media,

[1:35] other places, and the anger continues to grow about these.

[1:40] And like the might and box elder data center Fiasco, opposition to licensed plate readers,

[1:47] United's Utahns on all sides of the political spectrum, ranging from the conservatives

[1:51] all the way to the progressive, socialist, libertarians, and everybody else do not

[1:57] like these licensed plate readers.

[1:59] So, I'd therefore encourage you to defer action on this today for a number of reasons.

[2:05] And first of all, you don't want to get caught in the middle of this rapidly growing controversy.

[2:11] Second of all, the Utah State Privacy Commission is currently completing a study on license plate readers

[2:19] and it should have its recommendations out by the end of September.

[2:25] During the next legislative session, Representative Christian Chevrier will be running a bill on license plate readers.

[2:35] And on how the data used collected is used.

[2:40] And finally, you probably shouldn't sign the MOU until you can tell the public who owns the information collected by the license plate reader cameras.

[2:49] where all the cameras are in Davis County, where the data is stored is that in the United

[2:56] States or international servers, everyone who has access to the data and how the private

[3:03] company collecting the data uses it because they own the data.

[3:10] The second issue I wanted to address is just that 0.2 percent sales tax increase. And along

[3:20] with UIA attended the work meeting last week that focused on increasing the transportation

[3:25] tax by another 0.2 percent. And you should have received an email that I sent with citizens

[3:32] for tax fairness, talking points on this, I sent it to the General Address for the Commissioners.

[3:42] And, anyway, you should receive that.

[3:43] That has a number of talking points in it, but the main thing is 0.2 percent tax is an inflationary

[3:50] tax, that increases the cost of everything we purchase in Davis County by a zero point two percent

[3:56] at a time that we are all concerned about affordability.

[3:59] And based on the information provided by the Wasatch Regional Council, Wasatch Regional Council,

[4:14] this zero point two increase will cost every citizen, man, woman and child in Davis County,

[4:20] $41 a year, $164 per family of four.

[4:26] three minutes. Okay and so the last thing I got to say is we did not need this

[4:31] inflationary tax increase when affordability is such a major concern for the

[4:36] citizens and when so many other entities are increasing property tax rates this

[4:41] year. Thank you.

[4:51] Sorry my name is Lauren Starkey and I thank you for

[4:55] entertaining public comment. We the people we appreciate that greatly. My name is

[5:05] I also am here to speak on item 13, the proposed five-year memorandum of understanding to share

[5:13] automatic license plate reader data with the Utah Department of Public Safety and other

[5:19] gathered government entities.

[5:21] I am not asking that you reject this outright.

[5:25] I'm asking you to pause to type in the terms and hold it to the standards that Utah law already

[5:31] requires. The Utah's automatic license plate reader system act, specifically Utah code 4168204 already

[5:44] places the limits on this technology. The capture plate data is a protected record under

[5:52] the government, records access, and management act, and it cannot, or is not supposed to be,

[5:58] I appreciate our Mr. Mortensen's greater knowledge than I do, because we don't know if it's

[6:09] not specifically it is not supposed to be shared for any purpose beyond what is specifically

[6:16] authorized in statute. It is not supposed to be preserved for more than nine months except

[6:23] under a preservation request or disclosure order or warrant.

[6:28] The question that I have for this commission is simple.

[6:32] Does the memorandum of understanding in front of you today

[6:35] match those limits word for word with a county commit today

[6:39] in writing before this is signed to publicly post all of its

[6:44] ALPR use policy and this MOU specific data handling terms

[6:51] As the state law already requires, if the answer is yes, it should be easy to confirm today if it is not yet confirmed.

[6:59] This is a reason to slow down and not sign.

[7:03] I also want as our friend Rondid to flag that the law, the constitutional law here is actively moving.

[7:11] It is not settled. We just had two Supreme Court reviews in Carpentry versus the United States.

[7:21] in 2018, the Supreme Court ruled that to access

[7:27] somebody's historical cell phone data.

[7:30] Location data requires a warrant to, and it recognizes that tracking a person's movement over time is fundamentally different from a single observation. Last month, the Supreme Court decided in, in chatri vs. United States, the extent of the same warrant requirement to cell phone location searches.

[7:55] the first fourth major fourth amendment ruling on location tracking in eight years.

[8:01] Three minutes.

[8:03] Legal scholars say that this could reshape how the courts views the license plate camera

[8:10] networks today since it is changing in that landscape.

[8:13] It might look very different in 18 months.

[8:16] So we'll ask the commission to shorten it.

[8:18] Okay, we've passed the three minutes.

[8:20] So, my biggest complaint as a citizen that writes to a very large group of citizens is that there are some that are severely affronted by the flock cameras period.

[8:36] So, if we want to respect our citizens, you may want to reconsider. Thank you.

[8:48] Good morning, Tina Horlocker, Syracuse.

[8:52] It's easy to go forward, but it's very difficult to go back.

[8:56] We are quickly becoming a surveillance state, and I don't know if you've seen the movie

[9:00] movie Eagle Eye, but that's becoming a real reality here.

[9:04] I'm sure many of you have seen the video of the cop knocking on the woman's door, insisting

[9:09] that she stole the packages from the door, and she luckily had the proof that it was not

[9:15] her, but he was totally determined to cite her and do, and which could have led more to

[9:21] that if she had not had that proof.

[9:24] Utah used to have photocop tickets.

[9:26] It was rescinded because it was illegally found to violate civil liberties.

[9:31] The code strictly prohibits photorater.

[9:34] Technology has changed, but the Constitution has not.

[9:38] Other places across the country have had issues with automated license readers and identification

[9:45] The number of people being falsely accused are rising as well as the number of court cases.

[9:51] I received a mail from Texas for many years because they were accused me of writing one

[9:59] of their roads when it was not me.

[10:02] This will put the county at risk.

[10:04] The cities that permitted these are going to be health viable in the county should stay away

[10:08] from these liabilities.

[10:10] Many of these cameras are on commercial properties.

[10:12] the government should not be providing security for home depot, low or other stores.

[10:18] These cameras violate the 4th, 6th and 9th amendments.

[10:25] A lot of us like the technology, but when we're always trying to go for security, just

[10:33] like what Benjamin Franklin said, those who would give up essential liberty to purchase

[10:38] a little temporary safety.

[10:40] deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[10:46] Also, America, if she loses her liberty, will become

[10:50] more tyrannical state than any other nation in the world. Advanced technology, the nation

[10:56] possesses vast digital surveillance networks, artificial intelligence and data collection

[11:02] tools that far outpace past tyrannies. Global reach. The integration of American economic

[11:08] can military power means an internal collapse would destabilize global security, remove keychecks

[11:15] on other global dictatorships, and the vast infrastructure.

[11:21] The sheer size of this day apparatus, law enforcement and federal agencies, could be

[11:26] repurposed for total internal control.

[11:30] You might all feel very harmless sitting there, and all of your intentions might be good,

[11:35] But you don't know who comes after you, and you don't know who ultimately can gain the control of

[11:43] the systems that are set up that could greatly deprive us of our liberties.

[11:49] Thank you.

[11:55] Good morning, commissioners.

[11:56] I can always bark.

[11:57] Stay with County Sheriff.

[11:58] I just wanted to respond to a couple of the concerns.

[12:01] With great respect for the citizens who are here today to speak to this issue about

[12:06] license plate reader cameras.

[12:08] I would like to start just by saying that there is nothing more important to me as sheriff or to the sheriff's office than protecting the civil rights of our citizens.

[12:18] That includes protecting them from intrusion by state, national or county government, but it also includes protecting them from intrusion by bad actors.

[12:30] The item that you have before you, the memorandum of understanding, does not establish new license plate reader cameras in the county.

[12:39] What it does is simply control the access and use of that information that is already being gathered.

[12:45] I think this is an important time for us to do that.

[12:48] No doubt that this is a controversial issue.

[12:50] No doubt that it's out in the public and it's gaining a lot of attention.

[12:54] I'm sure that we will have additional movement both nationally and locally.

[13:02] We had legislation for at least the last four or five years on this issue.

[13:09] What this memorandum of understanding does is it restricts the use and access of that information,

[13:17] purely for public safety, important public safety issues.

[13:20] these license plate readers can be a great tool, right?

[13:25] We have solved homicide cases, we have recovered kidnapped children, what we need to be able

[13:33] to do is make sure that we're using that valuable information in a very restrictive and

[13:38] important way that protects and safeguards all the rights of our citizens.

[13:42] That's really what this memorandum of understanding does.

[13:45] We have a policy already posted on our website about the use of our license plate readers.

[13:53] We do have some license plate reader cameras available.

[13:57] We don't have any deployed statically in the county right now,

[14:00] but we do have them available for use in specific situations if we need them for that use.

[14:06] I would urge you to approve this memorandum of understanding.

[14:10] It is an important safeguard.

[14:11] I think the people of the county need to know what we are doing to safeguard the information that is already out there.

[14:18] So thank you.

[14:20] Thank you.

[14:28] Hello, my name is Jill Dredge and after I learned of this last night, I did send messages.

[14:37] Last night before I went to bed, I was scrolling through Google and there were six articles of protests across the country

[14:43] about the flood cameras and what's happening with them.

[14:46] On the way over here this morning, listening to a national radio,

[14:51] they were talking about the problems with this.

[14:54] It's not that we don't want to have a security,

[14:57] but what are we willing to give up for security?

[15:01] We know that there are things that are going on where it is being misused. And this seems to me this memorandum. I appreciate what Kelly Sparks said. It helps me understand it a little more. But I do think it's putting the nose under the tent, because we get started with something like this and then where can it go? It's tracking people. We may solve some situations with it, but what risk are we putting everybody at? Everybody. So thank you.

[15:34] Okay, if that's

[15:39] one more.

[15:46] Just a few of the questions that Ron brought up, because they are important questions

[15:53] and before we've added this MOU is my job to go out and do that research.

[15:58] The data is stored in the government cloud in Virginia, so not on any international servers.

[16:03] This is the same system of data that all of our shares information goes into.

[16:09] So if a sheriff is behind a car and he types in a license plate to look up that license plate, this is in the same place that that data is.

[16:18] Record retention is actually available to be configured by us for the amount of time those records so we are in full control to meet the nine months.

[16:27] as stated before.

[16:30] Also, the only way that people can access this data right now is if they have an account

[16:35] under our umbrella with the Sheriff's Office.

[16:39] The vendor cannot even see this data.

[16:41] They have to be, quote unquote, escorted electronically.

[16:45] Meaning they have to connect to us.

[16:46] We have to log in with our credentials and escort them around the data.

[16:51] So they don't even have natural data access even at the vendor level.

[16:54] So again, as when our process is when any of these things come up,

[16:59] it goes through a number of checks.

[17:03] So those are our legal department to see if there's anything

[17:06] that's challenged on the legality of it.

[17:08] That goes from my office to make sure that we've

[17:10] asked the right questions from a data perspective

[17:14] and assistance perspective around security and storage.

[17:17] So I just wanted to answer some of Ron's questions directly

[17:20] on that.

[17:21] Thank you.

[17:22] Thank you.

[17:24] OK, there is no one else who will go on in our agenda.

[17:28] Item number one is the receipt of application for adjustment

[17:31] of property tax, which is recommended by Brian McKinsey.

[17:37] Do you have anything on that?

[17:38] No, I'm representing Brian today.

[17:40] We have received this application for 1347,

[17:44] and this will trigger additional meetings

[17:46] where the application will be discussed further.

[17:48] Thank you.

[17:49] OK, appreciate that.

[17:51] We'll now move down to our meeting minutes.

[17:53] We have two sets of minutes.

[17:55] First one is for a work meeting on July 28th,

[17:58] 2026, and also a regular commission meeting on July 28th.

[18:02] Commissioners are there any changes or adjustments on this,

[18:05] so you know, I make emotions or provide them two and three.

[18:09] Move the second that we approve the minutes from items two and three.

[18:12] All of a favor say aye.

[18:13] Aye.

[18:14] That is unanimous.

[18:15] We'll now move down to our business and action.

[18:17] First up is our clerk's office.

[18:20] Just seat. Yes, me again. So this first request is to approve the cancellation of the work session and the regular commission meeting. That's scheduled for August 18th.

[18:31] There will not be a quorum present that day and so we are requesting that that meeting be canceled.

[18:37] And then the second request is to approve the calling of a special meeting for this Friday, August 14th at 1 p.m.

[18:44] for a public hearing to be held here in the commission chambers discussing the community development block grant section 108 loan application.

[18:54] Very good.

[18:55] Any questions?

[18:56] No questions.

[18:57] I move approval.

[18:58] Second.

[18:58] Move a second.

[18:59] We approve items four and five.

[19:02] All of a favor say aye.

[19:03] Aye.

[19:04] Aye.

[19:04] That is unanimous.

[19:04] Thank you.

[19:05] And I move down to item six.

[19:06] This was a community development,

[19:13] morning commission, one item for your consideration today.

[19:15] It's a quest for a ratification of an update, a real estate, an updated real estate purchase contract

[19:20] to acquire vacant land for a permanent support of housing, transitional housing project,

[19:24] pending approval of Davis County's application for a section 108 loan guarantee from the Department

[19:29] of Housing and Urban Development, payable amount of $4 million.

[19:32] This is essentially just an extension of our due diligence and settlement period by an additional

[19:37] two weeks, so that's essentially the change.

[19:41] And the 4 million is not from General Fund.

[19:44] No, that's correct.

[19:45] It would be done through the section one-of-weight loan through CTVG.

[19:48] Related to that one before.

[19:50] Thank you, Kent.

[19:51] Any questions, commission?

[19:52] I have no questions.

[19:53] Let me make a motion to provide him six.

[19:55] Move the second that we approve item six is presented to us by Mr. Anderson.

[19:59] All of papers say aye.

[20:00] Aye.

[20:01] That is unanimous.

[20:02] Thank you.

[20:02] The controller's office.

[20:04] Good

[20:09] morning, commissioners.

[20:11] What you have before you hear is request to update our ordinance related to our tax sale.

[20:15] During this last year, we've always had in our ordinance that if the parcel is not economically viable, meaning it's like a small sliver of property, that we would allow it to be purchased without going through auction by one of the budding holders, the situation we had here is we actually had several different people with possessor interests or a budding interest that had interest in that property, and so we weren't able to sell it to any one of them, we had to put it up on the open market.

[20:39] And then it was purchased by somebody who has no ability to access that and really, it can just create a nuisance for those existing entities or the existing landowners around it.

[20:48] So this changed to the ordinance basically just clarifies that we're going to go through a tiered stage.

[20:53] So first stage is anybody who has a necessary interest in that property, you have the first right to auction.

[20:58] If there's multiple people in there, then you get against each other, then it goes to the budding landowners.

[21:03] If they bid for it, that's great. If not, then we'll open it up to the general public.

[21:06] I don't know how the general public debate and this is only applicable to those little slivers that are not economic

[21:10] viable. So if it's a full parcel that's in middle of a subdivision, it's fair game for everybody.

[21:15] This is only talking about those little slivers that are creative that have no economic value anyway.

[21:22] So if this be created through gaps.

[21:25] Yeah, there's lots of reasons why they were created overlapping divisions.

[21:28] Lots of things are like strips of three feet, you know, by 90 feet wide and somebody's back,

[21:33] are surrounded by their fence. They don't even, you know, the homeowners don't even know

[21:35] when they buy it, they didn't buy that little strip. So, when it comes up for tax sell,

[21:39] they're the first, they get first gifts on buying the rest of their backyard. If it's a parcel,

[21:44] it's sandwiched in between two, and there's no clear, possessor interest, then we would offer it to

[21:48] the two, abouting landowners to bid for that. But if it's an economic viable parcel, then we'll

[21:54] give it to anybody who wants it. Any questions? No, no, no, no. Thanks for making that improvement.

[21:59] I did have one clarification that I apologize.

[22:02] I'm convinced there's in this ordinance we referred to the economic development director and set of community and economic development director.

[22:09] And if it's possible we'd like to just change that to say community and economic development director.

[22:13] I'll just like it without correction.

[22:15] I think you can just.

[22:16] And move in a second to that we provide a seven with the correction on the community and economic,

[22:21] Well, I'm a director of all of Aversai I, that is unanimous move down to the Health Department of Health.

[22:36] I have three items for consideration. Number eight is the approval of an amendment number eight to contract 2024-0316 with the Utah Department of Health and Human Services for immunizations.

[22:51] This contract is receivable in the amount of 103,815 with term beginning July 1 of 2026 ending June 30th of 2027.

[23:05] Item 9 is approval of certifications and assurances for federal transit administration assistance program for federal fiscal year 2026.

[23:18] This is a beginning term beginning October 1 of 2025 ending September 30th of 2026 for us to receive funds to support our medical transportation for older adults.

[23:33] Item 10 is approval of an agreement with the Utah Department of Environmental Quality for

[23:40] contracted used oil services.

[23:43] This contract is also receivable in the amount of 12,315 with the beginning date of July

[23:50] 1226 ending date June 30th of 2027.

[23:59] Okay.

[24:01] I'll second the motion.

[24:03] Moving seconded that we approve items eight and nine and ten is presented to us, so I'll pay

[24:06] for saying aye.

[24:08] Aye.

[24:08] Thank you.

[24:09] Thank you.

[24:11] Well, now move down to item 1112, which is public works as kind of right to come forward.

[24:19] I'm on commission.

[24:21] Aye.

[24:21] Bring the items 1112, first item 11 approval agreement with the interstate companies for

[24:26] payment and striping services.

[24:29] The amount is type payable for 26,357 dollars in 70 cents,

[24:34] the getting August 11, ending at 1231, 2026.

[24:40] And item 12 is a payment of approval agreement

[24:44] for contracted by one construction.

[24:47] The cast-in-place concrete box

[24:48] for resections along down going dual-creek project,

[24:52] payable in the amount of 145,400 dollars

[24:56] the beginning August 11th, 2026, the ending 1231, 2026.

[25:03] So this is to help our guys that are working on dual-cure

[25:06] and center building that cooperative project right now

[25:07] to get that wrapped up.

[25:11] Okay.

[25:11] Any questions?

[25:12] No questions.

[25:13] No questions.

[25:14] And we've approval of 11 and 12 as presented.

[25:16] I'll second.

[25:17] I'll second.

[25:18] We've approved items of 11 and 12 all the time.

[25:20] I will say aye.

[25:20] Aye.

[25:21] That is unanimous.

[25:23] Thank you.

[25:23] Here, what kind of paint do they use when they strike that?

[25:26] water base? So there's, in this case, I think it is going to be a water base that we're going to use.

[25:34] But they have used oil on the past and all we have, but I believe this contract is for water based.

[25:39] Okay. Thank you.

[25:41] Now move down to the Sheriff's Office.

[25:44] Chief Deputy butcher to come forward.

[25:47] Why don't we do on this, but let's do 14 first, then come back to 13.

[26:02] This is a approval of a resolution of Davis County, a proving and interlocal cooperative agreement for fire services between Davis County and North Davis Fire District.

[26:14] This is payable and the amount of $50,656 and it begins July 1 to 2026 and will run through 6-30 of 2029.

[26:23] And if I could just add, Mike Kendall has done it's extensive and I cannot even emphasize

[26:30] that word extensive as has Scott Parks on getting these resolutions through, you'll be

[26:35] seeing seven more of them because we have eight fire districts in the county that we have

[26:40] to have these agreements with.

[26:42] All right.

[26:42] Just a clarification, what was the amount you just read?

[26:47] Or is it 28,000 or 65,000?

[26:50] Oh, it's 75,000.

[26:51] That's $50,000, $656.

[26:55] Mike's coming.

[26:57] So yes, Mike Kendall can give you a better explanation.

[27:00] I can't tell how that works out.

[27:03] Yes.

[27:03] So the $20,000 figure that you identified, Commissioner,

[27:06] is accurate.

[27:08] I think this is just the $50,000 mark

[27:13] results from an example that's referenced in the compensation structure.

[27:19] There's a formula that our controller has proposed

[27:24] to get all of the entities, hopefully, on a uniform structure of payment.

[27:30] Based off of a $10,000 valuation for every $10,000,

[27:35] I believe it's $11.35 and then you multiply that

[27:40] based off the value of each property and this contract is going to be servicing over a hundred

[27:47] parcels of property and so it's going to come out into that $20,000 figure. Some of these

[27:53] contracts that you'll see will be higher and some will be lower. But the $20,000 figure that you

[28:02] reference is correct. Thank you, much. Thanks Mike. I have no questions. I move to make a

[28:08] the first has approved item 14.

[28:10] The second.

[28:11] Mm, second.

[28:12] The first thing we have approved item 14 is presettitus.

[28:15] Hall of favor say aye.

[28:16] Aye.

[28:17] Aye.

[28:17] That's unanimous.

[28:18] OK, and now let's do 13.

[28:19] OK.

[28:19] I did number 13 for your consideration.

[28:22] I think we might have mentioned somewhere in this meeting before, but it's approve of a

[28:25] Memorand of Understanding Between Davis County and Utah Department of Public Safety for

[28:30] automatic license plate readers sharing government entities and sharing information for law enforcement purposes.

[28:38] This is, there is no financial on this, this is just a memory of understanding that is required of us by a department of public safety to ensure that the sheriff and his office is in compliance with the state law federal laws and everything that do govern any use of this type of equipment.

[28:58] So this would begin on commencement on the date that it is enacted by all parties by our party and it runs for a five year period from the date of that signature.

[29:11] So what's your question I would have on it is that.

[29:14] Obviously heard that there was supposedly going to be some legislation coming up which if there was a legislation that took place next spring or winter spring time period.

[29:24] that was passed, that once it was signed, would affect this, based upon whatever that legislation was in my correct on that.

[29:32] Is that this is part of that, past legislation that just enacted, and that's why we have to have the memorandum understanding of this.

[29:38] But if there was any more legislation, that would affect this as far as it goes also.

[29:43] Yeah. So, we contract with Lexifl for our policies, what Lexifl is a national company.

[29:50] Every time Utah state legislature meets, they watch all of that, and then instantly we update our policies according to legislation.

[30:00] On the dates that is enacted. So if this goes into effect, July 1st, our policies change to reflect state laws of the war in compliance with state law, or if there are other applicable federal laws.

[30:13] And I'm assuming that a number of other policing agencies have got had to go through this as part of this time.

[30:19] So this is required now for any of them that are using these type of camera systems throughout the state in order to share any of that information.

[30:28] and they have to be in compliance with it.

[30:29] So when it comes to, comes to the Davis County General,

[30:34] if, would late in city hypothetically come to us

[30:38] to get the information or does late in city have the ability

[30:41] to turn around and work with the state on the information?

[30:44] So what they would basically, the short answer is they would,

[30:48] they would come to us if it hit on one of our camera systems.

[30:52] So, an example of that, if we had a major crime, a child adoption, a homicide or something

[31:02] like that, we have a non-plate number or description of the vehicle that's pinned in or

[31:07] put into that system, and then the system will give things that it was seen on this camera.

[31:14] In order for those agencies to retrieve any of that information, they have to reach out through

[31:21] us because that's our camera. As we would have to do and vice versa, we would say we've got

[31:26] an notification from your cameras that you have that. As was mentioned, only people who have

[31:34] a log into our system can see our data, our information. And it is, they are set up in the way

[31:42] the rules are, I think the rules is the best word, but for the retention, it's a rolling 14-day

[31:50] right now. So, if something's not like not as important, it rolls right off. The nine

[31:57] months is if we grab data, that is related to a case, and if we want to try to keep

[32:02] that longer than any of that, then we have to have warrants in court.

[32:07] So, and then one other quick question would be the aspect that there was mentioned by one

[32:12] of the citizens that came up about a study being looked at, which supposedly the information

[32:18] would be out in September sometime. I'm assuming that whatever information comes out does not change

[32:24] the state law that we need to basically do what we're doing right now, is that correct?

[32:28] Great. Legislation would have to change the state law and we again, we comply with any state

[32:32] law legislation that's put out. Okay. Commissioner, there's not any other question.

[32:37] Yeah, I had a couple of questions in comments on it, so there's a lot of concern with the right

[32:42] And I read through the memorandum of understanding the MOU and Department of Public Safety very well respected state,

[32:51] law enforcement agency, highest law enforcement agency in the state.

[32:56] They're overseen this and we have a memorandum of agreement with them or our memorandum of understanding what them.

[33:03] So, I'm part of that, it said the DPS or, you know, that they have that M.O.U. with us, and participating agencies, so I guess I had a question on who were all the other participating agencies.

[33:21] That's pretty broad, you know, so does that include the YU police and provost?

[33:25] So that include, you know, South Jordan, you know, how many people now have access to that?

[33:34] So that was my concern on it.

[33:36] It didn't just have DPS that includes everybody else.

[33:39] And then the, yeah, the intent of that is so the all public safety is utilizing one of these camera systems.

[33:46] And I'll be honest with you, Commissioner.

[33:48] I can tell you the majority of your cities and that in the county right now are utilizing

[33:56] fees.

[33:57] They have their own.

[33:59] They have their own.

[34:01] But by state law, that was just passed and enacted that is now in.

[34:06] If you're going to share that information, you have to be in compliance with this

[34:11] MOU.

[34:12] So I can't tell you who signed the MOUs.

[34:15] We'd have to reach out to the Department of Public Safety.

[34:17] But if we have cameras that we're utilizing license plate reader cameras that we're utilizing for this purpose and we are not a part of this MOU, we are not in compliance with the state law.

[34:33] There's, I did a little bit of research on it and there's some lawsuits going on in other states right now.

[34:39] Yes, not Utah, with, you know, and this is restricted, this is not something that, you know, other people can get our sensor couldn't look at it, the commissioner's couldn't look at it. It would be restricted to law enforcement, but in other areas we have law enforcement that have been using it incorrectly, you know, just stock X spouses or whatever, and they're, you know, that's going through the courts right now.

[35:06] So there's a lot of concern about it. So my question to you is

[35:12] You mentioned that we have to be in compliance with state law

[35:18] When is that dropped dead date to be in compliance with state law with this and I I guess that the legislature's still working on

[35:26] Doing some fine tuning over this too, but yeah, when is that date? I did not

[35:33] So, as my understanding, the law went into effect July 1st if I remember correctly.

[35:39] And so, at any time, I guess, any agency that gets cameras, let's say in the future,

[35:47] I don't know, a rural place that hasn't had them or something gets them,

[35:53] they would have to come into compliance to utilize them.

[35:56] So I don't think there's like a if that's what you're asking like you you have to have the

[36:00] stuff by a certain date. There's not that but the law is in place now in order for us to

[36:06] utilize the system. We have to be a part of this MOU. And we have a minimal number of those right

[36:13] you know. Yeah it's a sure of mention we we do have four but we do not have them deployed.

[36:20] We've been testing one but not on public or anything like that is just to make sure that

[36:26] set up and everything like that, as far as the backend, is very restricted to who does have access

[36:34] to that system and nobody watches them. Like it's not like anybody logs in and sits there

[36:40] and watches those cameras at least around here. I do share your concern with inappropriate use

[36:46] and you're right. They could be inappropriately used.

[36:51] But in my, you know, I would just say it's

[36:56] share of mention, we believe this is a public safety and whole and that we're not inappropriately

[37:01] used.

[37:01] And I share the concerns that everybody has.

[37:05] And I think that this share of myself would be the first ones to dismiss somebody that was

[37:11] ever caught at our office, misusing something like that.

[37:17] And we're planning on expanding that to in the future, right?

[37:22] So we're looking at maybe testing one right now and then three others that are mobile or

[37:26] They're not mobile so they they they're fixed

[37:30] And that's part of the laws governing. Those have to be fixed. If it is under state law, if it's a fixed

[37:38] on a state road or state highway, you have to get a permit for that from the state. And you have to publicly

[37:48] notice where that is placed. So if we placed one on 193 in lighten, let's just use

[37:59] us an example, on a state highway, we'd have to get the permit from the state in order

[38:04] to post it there. And then once we had the permit, we would have to publicly notice on our

[38:10] websites that this is one of the locations of this camera. If we move it 400 feet, we have to

[38:17] get a new permit and publicly notice that.

[38:22] How many are we planning on increasing just a job of ballpark?

[38:25] We only have four that we have in our possession that we have acquired and I hesitate to

[38:33] speak for the future administration.

[38:35] Obviously we'll have a different administration in January but I'm not sure what his intent

[38:40] is.

[38:42] Just have a curiosity, are these game cameras?

[38:46] Do they fall under any type of this restrictions or anything like that?

[38:50] Under which camera, I'm sorry.

[38:51] The game, the game cameras, that happens.

[38:53] Game cameras?

[38:54] No, those are private, so those are treated much like your ring doorbells.

[39:02] They're private and owned by those individuals and in order to obtain or get into those,

[39:09] have to follow all the proper procedures and everything a law in order to obtain that, so.

[39:15] You know, I just want to thank everybody for being very interested in this topic.

[39:22] Data privacy is a very big deal for Davis County. There have been new laws at the state in recent

[39:28] years, several, to actually to protect people's privacy. Davis County has invested heavily.

[39:37] We already did quite well, we found out after that law pass.

[39:41] We found out there was a lot of data accounting was already doing great,

[39:44] but now there's extensive effort for data privacy in all of the information

[39:50] and all of the departments and offices.

[39:54] The clerk's office actually heads that up,

[39:57] and I information services also has no one.

[40:02] No department, no office isn't working hard on data privacy.

[40:05] It's a big deal, it's been an investment.

[40:08] It's one of those laws.

[40:09] It's pretty much an unfunded mandate.

[40:12] And we have absorbed it, and we've actually had to hire

[40:15] a new full-time person in the Clarks Office

[40:18] to oversee data privacy.

[40:20] And that's been going on for two, three years.

[40:22] So it is an important topic for the public, for the county.

[40:29] I've certainly learned quite a bit

[40:33] with this coming on the agenda and learning a lot more detail and what stands out to me

[40:41] that has been explained by our own sheriff and chief deputy is that this is this

[40:48] memorandum of understanding is actually protective that the memorandum restricts use of the data

[40:57] that it is actually a safeguard and that's a big deal. I think that we need to

[41:03] out sometimes for inconsistency at the state.

[41:07] There was a new law that was passed that did not allow as many as much privacy for voters.

[41:15] So sometimes the contradictions are curious and concerning.

[41:22] But in this case, this sounds like it is consistent with Davis County's efforts to be extra

[41:32] And I hope that the laws continue to support data privacy as much as we can possibly do.

[41:41] So yeah, thank you for this discussion.

[41:43] Thanks for coming and following, especially for the, I mean, there was something very recently

[41:49] in West Point, a horrible incident.

[41:52] And we were able to get that, the bad actors,

[41:58] tract, right? Because other entities had had those cameras. Correct, so.

[42:07] I'd just like to recognize that law enforcement has a very difficult job.

[42:13] The great distinction of, you know, walking that type rope or protecting people's

[42:18] of celebrities and protecting the public. And it's not always a perfect balance to

[42:24] So, you know, Davis County does have some of the finest law enforcement people in the state.

[42:29] Thank you. We've got a good reputation throughout the state for that.

[42:34] You know, and then, you know, also talking about, you know, protecting people's civil liberties.

[42:40] And now I've read through this. I have some concerns.

[42:44] And I'm not ready to vote in the affirmative for this and how I understand it better,

[42:51] and then tell my concerns for protecting people's civil liberties are also.

[42:56] And just to mention, I did talk to our attorney about this a little bit in the courts

[43:03] have ruled that a law enforcement officer on a public road can look at a license plate and see it.

[43:10] And so these cameras record all the license plates and so they can go back and check everything.

[43:15] So I guess it's like having a law enforcement officer sitting down writing people's license plates down on every street wherever there's camera and

[43:27] I do have some concerns. I did read about some of these lawsuits that are occurring in other states, not here in Utah, we wouldn't do that.

[43:37] But it does bring us some civil rights concerns for me.

[43:42] So thank you for having patience with our questions and discussing this with us, I really appreciate it.

[43:49] Absolutely.

[43:50] Any other questions, commission?

[43:51] No.

[43:54] I'll go ahead and make a motion that we approve item 13 at this time.

[43:57] I'll second the motion.

[43:58] Move to second.

[43:59] That we approve item 13.

[44:00] I'll do a roll call.

[44:02] I'll commission a profit.

[44:03] Nay.

[44:04] I'll vote aye.

[44:06] I.

[44:07] I.

[44:08] Passes two to one.

[44:09] Thank you.

[44:10] I'll then move down to our consent items.

[44:12] So we have item 15 through 19, or are there any questions

[44:19] commission that you have on that?

[44:20] It's not a look for a mission.

[44:21] I'm a little cool.

[44:22] I'll talk to you.

[44:23] I don't.

[44:25] Okay.

[44:26] Move a second.

[44:26] We approve the consent items.

[44:29] All of favor say aye.

[44:30] Aye.

[44:30] That is unanimous.

[44:31] Aye.

[44:31] Move a second.

[44:34] We go on to the board of equalization.

[44:36] All of favor say aye.

[44:37] Aye.

[44:38] That's unanimous.

[44:39] We have one item on there, which is the property tax

[44:42] register which is recommended to us by Scott Parker controller. If you see any questions

[44:49] on that, if not a look for the motion that we approve the proper tax register.

[44:52] I'm going to leave approval.

[44:54] All the second time.

[44:55] Move a second to the we approve the proper tax register as the presented to us on the papers.

[45:01] I move we reconvene commission meeting.

[45:03] I move we reconvene commission meeting.

[45:03] Second, second, we go back into commission meeting. This time all in favor say aye.

[45:07] Aye. Aye. That's unanimous.

[45:09] Bring this to a closing remarks or the right elected individuals that have any comments today.

[45:16] If not, Commissioner Crofty, have any comments?

[45:20] No. Commissioner Qualla?

[45:20] Just I've heads up. No. November 12th from 10 to noon.

[45:26] Davis County, Davis County Sheriff's office, Davis County's full-time expert emergency manager

[45:34] Amber Herrick has already started the organization for a full-scale emergency exercise

[45:40] on that day and there's just dozens and dozens as you can imagine of community partners

[45:45] who participate in the annual full-scale emergency exercise.

[45:49] It's big deal, grateful for your foresight and getting our county better prepared for emergencies.

[46:01] And it's really gratifying to see the great work and to see the partnerships all around this county.

[46:08] So thank you, look forward to that November 12th.

[46:11] In fact, there were lots and lots of communities that participated in this neighborhoods in

[46:17] case bill in Farmington and beyond last year at the same exact time it happens every year.

[46:23] So to be aware, like individuals, families, neighborhoods, everyone is invited to learn

[46:31] more and to be aware and to be able to participate last year and again in very large areas

[46:39] across a few of our cities.

[46:41] We exercised people using the door hangers, and it actually was something that, you know,

[46:52] households, the majority of households in certain areas participated in that to exercise.

[46:58] So that's what this is every year.

[47:00] That's my, that's my heads up.

[47:05] Okay, we appreciate that.

[47:06] This time we'll go ahead and adjourn our meeting at his 1046.

[47:11] Thank you.

Regular Commission Meeting 8 11 2026

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