[0:06] Good evening. Okay, okay. Stay up. We're going to rise in the question, leaves.

[0:12] One,

[0:15] one, let's go.

[0:16] We'll do this.

[0:17] It's a little bit bad.

[0:18] In the United States and America.

[0:20] We're going to move the public for which it stands.

[0:23] One, two, three, four, five, five.

[0:25] We're going to do this as well.

[0:27] We're going to do the deed.

[0:27] We're just as strong.

[0:30] Okay.

[0:30] Thanks for being online.

[0:34] Oh, must be a big party somewhere.

[0:39] I know Steve's coming. He's going to give a presentation.

[0:43] Go ahead.

[0:44] Go ahead.

[0:46] The notes requirements of the Open Public Meeting Act.

[0:48] The meeting had been met by transitioning the notice of the regular meeting.

[0:52] The commissioners' official newspaper on February 12, 2021.

[0:57] Posting the notes were required.

[0:59] And by then, I'll talk to you the notice with the commission curve.

[1:01] The deal of commission meeting will be already on video tape.

[1:04] I'll be showing you on APTV Optimum 777 and the round list of monochemies on Friday's 28.

[1:10] Alan Harris,

[1:13] ask a very part.

[1:15] Here.

[1:16] Deal.

[1:18] Interlinking.

[1:19] President, welcome.

[1:20] Here.

[1:22] Neptune.

[1:24] And Ocean.

[1:26] Don't.

[1:27] Are you here?

[1:36] Yes.

[1:36] We're going to leave.

[1:37] We have an advance.

[1:39] Thank you.

[1:40] Okay.

[1:40] Okay, let me just arrive.

[1:42] Oh great.

[1:43] Okay, so.

[1:45] Maybe we have a resolution to shoot the minutes as a regular meeting from July 20th or 20th or 20th or 20th or 6th.

[1:51] Second, it's a little bit.

[1:53] All in favor.

[1:55] All right.

[1:55] Opposed.

[1:58] Tonight we also have a resolution to prove the trustee's report and pay bills.

[2:03] You got it, Margot?

[2:04] Sure.

[2:05] August 27th, 2026.

[2:07] Total on deposit, 64,874.

[2:11] $174.70, total receipts, $411,965.18 cents. Dispursments, $248,747, and $95, total on deposit, $228,993.

[2:33] that is. Perfect. Someone please offer a report in K-Dose.

[2:38] Should we? Second. Second?

[2:42] That's very far? Yes.

[2:44] Into that can? Yes. Well covered.

[2:47] Yeah. And also. Yes.

[2:50] Oh, for all business. Okay.

[2:52] We have a productive meeting.

[2:55] There's a two days ago. Two days ago.

[2:57] A weather. No, it was yesterday.

[2:58] It was yesterday. Yes.

[3:00] It just feels like a month ago.

[3:06] So it was, we had the, we had a subject box, some questions from the DEP and I had a whole bunch of

[3:13] concerns on some, some issues they were making.

[3:16] So we had to mean, which always seems to work out face-to-face over the internet, zoom, whatever

[3:21] was, teams group.

[3:23] It was great.

[3:25] So we cleared a whole bunch of things up and amazing.

[3:28] And we've given them information since Steve and the way for me the middle of May with no response.

[3:36] Right.

[3:37] And down to the very patient, at least with them.

[3:41] And rightfully so contacted them and said, hey, listen, guys, you're blaming us for slowing the product down.

[3:47] But we're not moving anything.

[3:49] We haven't had fun of improved for installation.

[3:51] We have T.D.

[3:52] So we're getting in two weeks.

[3:54] So Don called one meeting with you. So we had it and it was good and bad. This Steve is very frustrated by their behavior totally different than any other project that they I know this is recorded and maybe he's here. No Steve is here. No Steve is here, but DEP represented. There's totally different than

[4:24] is professional business.

[4:26] Pretty good.

[4:27] Pretty good.

[4:28] It's ridiculous.

[4:30] I question them.

[4:31] The on question them, Steve question them, finally they said, okay, we'll give you

[4:35] the money.

[4:35] We'll ensure the money is there.

[4:37] What I said, the actual cost for installation is $148,250, we asked for 220, to ensure we had

[4:46] all our costs covered.

[4:47] So Steve could finish his final report.

[4:49] We could be inspecting and the commission didn't have to pay for it.

[4:53] Very few.

[4:53] They only gave a commission $160,000.

[4:57] That office, but we haven't went to the higher level yet, so.

[5:00] Well, and I plan to answer the higher level, because they were offering hundreds of thousands,

[5:05] not $500,000 to get this thing fixed.

[5:09] And I thought that was very gracious.

[5:10] This office, you know, they're trying to be fair to all the groups.

[5:14] They don't want to get too much money with you.

[5:16] And usually their cap is 20% going over that is another level of approval,

[5:22] which they don't see the one to get, which I don't understand, because we're already

[5:27] having the commission already knows. DEP commissioner knows what's going on.

[5:31] And it kind of supports us. So I'm scratching my head on that.

[5:34] I want to go right into the...

[5:40] Yeah, I want you going. Go ahead.

[5:44] Bottom line is, let's just talk about the project.

[5:47] you understand the design, it's 3MTDs and 2, what do we call the H31?

[5:53] Yeah, whatever the name by manufacturers I am.

[5:57] They're all from the same manufacturer, all CASIC.

[6:00] They're being fabricated.

[6:01] I think the fabrication is completely because they're going to deliver them on August 27th, which is today.

[6:08] today. And the contractor is busy now on school projects and he'll finish by

[6:14] first week of September. So, precise asked for the delivery to be changed to September 10th,

[6:19] at which time they'll be available. They'll also load them to a location on site that we give them.

[6:26] Yeah, we'll have to figure that out. Well, we figured it out with those options down to it. Right. That

[6:29] is near the old serious building. Okay. It'll be there and then they'll pick them up and they'll

[6:34] installed on a schedule and they'll give us

[6:36] error of the 10% 100.

[6:37] Oh, we know, we know in the site.

[6:40] Yeah, OK.

[6:41] Yeah, that's a few minutes.

[6:44] Basically, we were all there.

[6:46] We stated our cases.

[6:47] The money has to be spent by the end of September.

[6:51] I'm gave you the costs.

[6:52] It's $150,000.

[6:54] I question because I know what Jesse says.

[6:57] We can't contract or the money if we don't have it.

[7:00] And they insured that the funding wasn't worth it.

[7:04] The

[7:07] grant amount was 801,368 to date for approved repayment to date at a balance of $89,040, which

[7:24] of the phone brand now. So they are committed to that.

[7:33] We're trying to get into, they hold 10% of the payment back to cross the fees and thought of the eyes. We choose a lot of things that make it difficult for us to progress with the project, if we were a municipality had fun with the money would be using, but we're not. But we don't have the money to put out. It's not given to, so we submitted the paper. The one required was to submit the progress payment, progress, we thought we did, but we did it again in a manner.

[8:02] us in 24 hours they approved it was shocking. Steve, did you see that? Did they approve it?

[8:11] Yeah, I saw that. It was, it was somewhat shocking given how the delay that they said they

[8:21] were entitled to and getting back to us on the draft final report and things like that. So

[8:31] I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that they responded and approved it so quickly, but it was pretty straightforward.

[8:41] Yeah. I mean, it's like three sentences. So I don't know, you know, what that wasn't.

[8:47] So they're explained.

[8:48] This report has to be submitted through the Sage system, which is electronic system.

[8:52] and or chief CFO does that Ricky and he he got the information the same day hours and after

[9:00] the meeting and he submitted it that afternoon and the next morning it was approved so I've never

[9:05] seen the D.P. works so fast so that maybe that means we're going to get they're going to be moving a little

[9:10] faster for now on. With some of the two bits of funding we need to resolve the

[9:17] the completion of this project and Steve and I are past the limit of worrying about us getting paid

[9:24] for worried about getting the project done. So we've paid precise construction $443,543 in

[9:35] sense out of a six hundred and three thousand dollar contract to purchase the M2D units.

[9:43] That's under the grant. There is a hundred fifty nine thousand nine hundred sixteen dollars in

[9:47] ninety cents remaining in that contract. We normally wait until we have the product in place or in hand

[9:56] before we recommend paying for it because we want to be sure or paying for something we have.

[10:00] Don's position and I'm going to accept this is that's process this now and then you get it right we'll get a paper work done so it doesn't delay the project and it's all we can give this to precise as precise to give us an invoice for this amount right and I'll give to you and Ricky and the genius what happens is the state needs a certain a cancel check so everything's going to cancel

[10:26] sport only certified payment. So it's tricky and it's got and and precise either. I brought a check one time and precise actually sent a person down and picked a check up

[10:36] Yeah, that one time. So, you know, speed is important. There's no electronic transfer unfortunately, right?

[10:42] and the D.K., they weren't quick on the last couple of Spanish payments. We had $200,000 each,

[10:51] and so we're ready. We want to be done by the end of September. I don't give them a few months

[10:56] to close the project cap, they want the project closed out by the end of the year. We do have some

[11:01] just gymnastics to do down the road with the amendment. We have to do an amendment to the current grant

[11:07] that which extends it in whatever it could be next year. But the key we want to be done by the

[11:13] end of the year, try to. We have to ask for progress payments again, let me make sure that happens.

[11:21] We should be getting there. I mean, I can't, I'll be happy when the first back home is in the grass.

[11:26] It's the first time we've really been able to tell the commission, hey, that's what we have

[11:31] a date where we think the fraud is going to be delivered. We'll all go out. We'll have a part of it.

[11:37] It's literally yearly.

[11:39] Yeah.

[11:40] You're a fine one.

[11:41] We're a TV.

[11:43] There.

[11:43] You're inside.

[11:43] You're going to have to, where's that sign?

[11:45] We need to.

[11:45] We're talking about that, right?

[11:47] I mean, we need to.

[11:48] Good.

[11:48] No money, but that's okay.

[11:49] Talk to Chiefs.

[11:51] Go get a fancy set.

[11:53] Okay.

[11:54] So that's it.

[11:55] Any questions?

[11:57] I'll pause.

[11:57] It's not pause.

[11:58] I don't.

[11:59] You're pause.

[11:59] Yes.

[12:00] I'll use it.

[12:01] The only thing that wasn't pause was it.

[12:04] It was the amount of funding that we asked for.

[12:06] the installation they used for the product, but almost like they're squeezing us forward and

[12:10] everyone's in the first step, but delay and cause expenses when we had to go out a bit

[12:15] three times, because they accepted the material we proposed and then denied.

[12:22] And then it's certainly that the funding would be there, and it's just done in the fourth.

[12:26] Yes, the group, that's interesting.

[12:28] Well, I don't know what the advice they want were more expensive, but the key thing is there's no

[12:34] flexibility. Usually we have 10% flexibility in expenditures. We don't have that here.

[12:41] So minimum, I'm going to go back and say, hey, we said to 20, I'd like to have that,

[12:46] that can be the cap. And we'll try to work as close to 160 as we can, but not having that.

[12:53] There's the empty devices they have in place now, some more. If you drive around that circle,

[12:58] and you look on the outside ring, there's missing covers.

[13:05] There wouldn't have been a pallet over.

[13:07] And then one of the pet covers will only die for you.

[13:10] Yes.

[13:11] So I hope we hope to fix those.

[13:14] That's part of the plan.

[13:15] I don't know how many money I'm okay with for that, but we...

[13:18] Yes.

[13:18] Okay.

[13:21] That's good.

[13:22] Next, sir.

[13:25] Sure, I'm protection.

[13:26] I know Jenny's trying to get a meeting with the EEP on that.

[13:30] Again, lots of, a lot of cases out there, we have to submit it in case issues, trees coming

[13:37] down.

[13:38] Both of them both are going up there, giant, shorelines getting ripped and I've said what

[13:43] I said down with it, there's the sorts of the plus, the idea by going through the, the,

[13:50] the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the shoreline protection, it's also the,

[13:55] a approval of

[14:02] a particular one.

[14:03] What if it basically would have gone for development?

[14:06] So if a contract has a homeowner's trying to improve their property,

[14:10] they're going to submit a request to the state or a letter of the letter of the letter of interpretation.

[14:17] And the interpretation will get back at various different,

[14:20] every time it seems like.

[14:22] So it would be great to have one guy, one team working now,

[14:25] seems like different teams, different towns,

[14:28] you get different people.

[14:30] So that's been frustrating.

[14:31] It was frustrating with me.

[14:33] And somebody should know on down the street for me,

[14:35] they want to put a seven-story house up on the lake.

[14:38] Right in the flood plan.

[14:39] I'm sorry, seven, seven-year-old past.

[14:42] Right in the lake, in a flood plan.

[14:46] So I'm just scratching my head on out.

[14:48] And they've heard the state say, anyway.

[14:52] Geese for mediation.

[14:54] We just got the thought, we got the report.

[14:56] It was a five report, if you gave it to the guys to read it.

[15:00] I think I said, say, I don't even know where you're right. Yeah, it wasn't, it's been many, many deaths this year. And she's

[15:08] thinking it, the USDA folks are saying it's basically the weather, the weather effect and everything is

[15:15] late. The deaths were performing later in the year. I mean, I saw a couple and we reported some might

[15:21] never had been hatched.

[15:24] They shouldn't see him, he will fit for them.

[15:29] So we went from 18, we're going up in numbers

[15:32] and that we had five last year, five nests,

[15:35] right, total of 15 eggs.

[15:37] And one of the level of FOMO in our class break

[15:38] was almost the same.

[15:40] Yeah, so it was great.

[15:41] And if you honestly, I didn't see

[15:42] many young geese floating around.

[15:45] So no one grew up in a fossil,

[15:47] what could tackle it?

[15:48] Visibly less near the years.

[15:51] My friends have the house on the back of a bummer and they usually have like

[15:54] windows in front of their house.

[15:56] She also said the avian flu was a big factor.

[15:59] She said, I mean, you mentioned that.

[16:00] She said that.

[16:01] That could have been another factor.

[16:03] You think what would they have?

[16:04] The avian flu.

[16:05] The birds flu.

[16:07] And you mentioned about the dogs.

[16:10] But I just just don't remember the ducks were went.

[16:12] There's six back now.

[16:14] But then we're like always between 20 and 40.

[16:19] Yeah.

[16:20] seen it for a while, they were my man and feel like a dust, a few weeks ago, and it was

[16:25] like bleaks where I bought it, I saw it in so much, then I saw one and two now, the most

[16:30] I saw it so far as six.

[16:32] I saw more ducklings this year though, the never, I saw at least three, three groups of

[16:36] ducklings.

[16:40] You noticed the same thing, they don't work the other way around.

[16:45] I don't know.

[16:46] I don't know.

[16:50] Maybe if we lost a lot of ducks and in the winter and know that, we found a lot of ducks down by that.

[16:55] That ducks we found birds.

[16:57] We also have a lot of swans and swans that are having young with survival.

[17:02] The four signates on Wesley Lake, and over the lake in between,

[17:09] grabbing an ab on.

[17:10] There was another group of signates on between Randy and Anthony.

[17:14] I was amazed how big those things are.

[17:17] We lost the one that we bought with a cat bird, this one with the one.

[17:22] Yeah. Oh, Mary. Mary.

[17:25] Yeah.

[17:25] So we're opening the Wesley lake once. Come over to the lake.

[17:29] Yeah.

[17:29] No.

[17:29] Let's take a look at the plot.

[17:31] I didn't see going to have to plot it.

[17:32] I went looking for that.

[17:34] Yeah.

[17:34] I've never seen a road looking.

[17:36] In bushes and everything.

[17:37] I couldn't find them.

[17:41] Okay.

[17:42] Well, we're talking Steve.

[17:43] If you want to talk about the the keys that

[17:46] Do you need to be proposing?

[17:51] So, you know, she had sent us a...

[17:55] Yeah.

[17:55] Basically, some information about this goose control product.

[18:01] It's similar to the products that have been used in the past,

[18:04] around deal lake.

[18:06] It goes by the trade name, professional goose granular repellent.

[18:11] I wrote a short report for you all.

[18:14] You know, the primary active ingredients are castor oil, let me see a sign if I can get the audio on the TV.

[18:27] Keep talking for it, just chat with me.

[18:30] So, you know, like I was saying, it goes by the trade name professional goose granular repellent,

[18:35] what. And is manufactured by natural MACE, MACE-CE. So I went to the manufacturer's website

[18:44] to obtain a copy of the product label, which by law regulation should show all the active ingredients

[18:52] and then any inner ingredients. And the active ingredients, essentially it's primarily cast

[19:00] oil with some white pepper, scarlet powder, citronella oil, so nothing that is toxic.

[19:09] The one thing that I questioned was that some of the other products that have been

[19:17] used like rejects it, it is a lick with that sprayed directly on the grass and that's made

[19:23] out of like grape skin extract, but this takes the cast royal, and it is mixed on inner

[19:34] ingredient, in her, in her ingredient, specifically peanut shells in paper. So it's applied

[19:43] as a, as opposed to being applied as a liquid, it's applied as a solid. So it's like a powder,

[19:52] And then it stays on the grass and works similar to those other products.

[19:56] But I questioned the peanut shells, because people that have nut allergies and specifically

[20:05] peanut allergies, that was the only thing that I found questionable.

[20:11] Now, Genica back to me and she said she had talked to the manufacturer and they do not

[20:18] any longer use peanut shells as the carrier. So as the solid material that this would get sprayed

[20:26] on and then spread out as a fine, you know, powder, let's call it. However, I haven't been able

[20:33] to find out what they're using. Okay, so if it's like, you know, ground up paper that's fine

[20:40] but supposedly the manufacturer or the representative of the manufacturer will be

[20:48] conducting a short presentation to the commission next month and should be able to provide that information.

[20:58] But honestly, what is on their website and what I was able to download from the internet

[21:08] uh... continues to show that pit peanut shells

[21:11] uh... account for and paper accounts for about 75% of the product

[21:16] but it is in it

[21:18] uh...

[21:19] so in any event we need to get that

[21:21] uh... you know

[21:23] we need to get that

[21:24] uh... uh... clarified by the manufacturer

[21:28] beyond that

[21:29] if you know it

[21:30] it has all of the same

[21:33] properties in terms of uh...

[21:37] how it treats the grass, it causes it to have an off taste, the birds get habituated to

[21:44] that, they understand that eating that grass tastes lousy and they'll go fly someplace else

[21:51] to eat the grass. So it works similar to those other products. But some of those other products,

[21:59] you know, after you melt the grass a number of times, you're going to have to reapply it

[22:04] And the same thing, if there's like a heavy rainfall, you're going to have to reapply the product.

[22:09] But that's no different than these other products that have used for grass.

[22:15] And, you know, just to drive the point home, I added a couple of sentences at the end of my memo,

[22:21] just reminding everybody that, you know, geese do produce a lot of phosphorus.

[22:26] You know, first off, they generate about one to two pounds.

[22:30] A feces per bird per day. That's a lot of poop. And then on top of that, four geese produces much

[22:40] phosphorus, which is the stimulant for algae blooms, including harmful algae blooms. They produces

[22:48] much phosphorus as a single septic system. So every time you see four geese on your lake or on

[22:56] grass, the lawns, adjacent to it, it's like having a septic system discharging into the

[23:02] lake. So they have a big water quality impact. And you know, the final thing is that most

[23:08] of the beach closures that we see, you know, even though the coastal beach closures are

[23:15] a function of the bacteria produced by, you know, that is generated with this goose feces

[23:22] that ends up being washed off by rain events and then causes a spike in bacterial levels,

[23:29] and then that leads to beach closures. So there's a whole bunch of reasons to control the

[23:35] Canada geese. And this is a non-lethal proven approach. It's just another product that we can

[23:45] And then on a toolbox and you know, utilize it in the past, what we demonstrated, we demonstrated

[23:51] in three to four different locations, I believe, was Alan Hurst, two in Asbury, and one in

[23:57] Ocean Tangent.

[23:59] And I'm thinking maybe we get a price for the one section in Asbury, down by the ocean, from

[24:05] Norwood Avenue, down to the Flume House, get a price for that and maybe present that next

[24:12] next month. And then, you know, we can do a demonstration, do another demonstration, whatever

[24:17] that figure out what the cost of that figure that out. Yeah, I still was going to be reasonable.

[24:22] We wanted, I don't think I would, I would want it on every single location we had,

[24:29] Alan is all going to be torn up with a bridge in a couple years, so I don't want to bother them.

[24:34] Ocean Tanship, we get quite a terrace. That's, that's my spot, but, you know, it's another, another,

[24:39] angle, you got the sun, it's a lollipop pod, but next pizza rea, there's a lot of geese there.

[24:45] But there's a lot of opportunities, but to me, if we pay for it, we're going to go broke.

[24:49] So, you know, if we could demonstrate it to the towns, that at least at once spot, we reduced

[24:54] dramatic amounts of geese food, that'd be a big win for us.

[24:59] So, you know, we did it once with a different product and that of products no longer available.

[25:03] So, you know, maybe we do one.

[25:05] We don't have to make a big, big, big, I do about it.

[25:08] But I also think that positioning it to the cities with regards to reduction and potential

[25:12] beach closures is going to be a really effective use.

[25:15] So we've already had that issue multiple times this summer.

[25:18] Blockbar.

[25:18] People tend to point fingers at the lake.

[25:21] So if we can turn around and say, listen, we're going to bring a dissolution to help the

[25:24] lake out west into the ocean.

[25:26] Yes.

[25:27] You get a run with it.

[25:29] Well, you know, we'll get the ball rolling and here's the information and then they'll

[25:32] be open to it.

[25:32] I think that's probably the better positioning because I don't think that will resonate better

[25:36] with them, I think.

[25:37] because that's the money maker.

[25:38] But I think we got to get it that's like one sheet of paper, two power point presentations

[25:44] and be done with it, you know, a long-winded dissertation is not going to win over anybody.

[25:50] So, yeah, Gini's really got a sharp and a pencil and get it really focused and get pricing

[25:55] for that area by Asbury.

[25:57] I think that would, I would vote for that.

[26:00] What have you been doing it before, I mean, it like a workshop.

[26:03] We can do it.

[26:04] Yeah.

[26:04] We do it in a workshop.

[26:05] But we still, when you come to the meeting,

[26:07] you have a focused five-minute discussion,

[26:10] so we go, we also need some

[26:11] to package up and sell back to the town.

[26:13] Exactly, that's the key, right?

[26:14] Like if we understand it together in a digestible form

[26:17] for, it's also not nice.

[26:19] This contractor will need to give us

[26:20] a special price or don't need the product or our class.

[26:24] Good answer.

[26:25] Can't answer.

[26:27] Can't answer.

[26:28] I do the, I think, half of the population

[26:30] when we did our class before.

[26:32] I'll go into it, it's a p-viscence.

[26:33] I'll go into it, it'll give us your answer.

[26:36] That was the other.

[26:37] That would be a good idea, if he was a pro.

[26:40] Yeah, yeah, we're totally alive.

[26:42] It was a hip-width up, for my sprayer.

[26:45] He could burn it all.

[26:46] A lawnmower.

[26:47] It didn't really spray.

[26:49] And he was out there.

[26:50] And he drove, and older gentleman.

[26:52] He was, he was nice guy.

[26:54] And the, but he, the, every fire.

[26:56] And he got to suck it and want to take a little bit of his.

[26:58] But his passion was getting what he used.

[27:01] Yeah.

[27:01] Well, you know, I think I think it is a good point with the towns, you know, pushing that

[27:06] you know, it's a fact. I mean, the EP even says it themselves that enter that enter O'Coccus

[27:13] bacteria that is, you know, the primary trigger by which these beach closures occur is, you know,

[27:22] transmitted by goose feces and, you know, when you have heavy rain events, it is, it's almost

[27:31] inevitable that you end up with elevated bacterial levels. And, you know, it's a function of

[27:40] of peace. So controlling peace definitely has a benefit to, you know, the coastal beach communities.

[27:47] Right. I think if they're willing to like fund a test and we can go back to our towns with positive

[27:52] data, that will make it much more appealing to the talents to want to participate. We're expanding

[27:58] just. Yeah. Yeah. And that, that USDA report also, you know, mentioned the benefit of not as a

[28:07] soul means of controlling candidates. But as one, again, one of the tools in the toolbox using

[28:13] these, you know, these sprays to, you know, cause the grass that tastes lousy in the geese go elsewhere.

[28:20] So, you know, it's working. It's working. Right. And the one piece, the one piece they have is

[28:28] if we get our, you know, if it's positively positive results,

[28:32] Homer can use it too. Correct.

[28:34] Yeah. Oh, yeah. Can they buy a separately?

[28:36] I forgot. Can they buy a separately and do it themselves?

[28:40] I, you know, that, I mean, that's a good question. Some of these products are

[28:44] labeled so that you would need a permit for applications. Some of them are not.

[28:51] Okay. Um, I think all of these products that are, uh,

[28:57] Do not require a permit.

[29:01] That's a workshop.

[29:02] We can invite the town by then.

[29:04] Yep.

[29:05] Let's do that.

[29:06] We'll have a 40 minute 30 minute workshop.

[29:11] Is the next question you wanted to have in the end?

[29:14] Yeah.

[29:15] Yes.

[29:17] She was talking about having that.

[29:19] Having that guy in from nature,

[29:24] to do a quick presentation on this product.

[29:27] Okay, let's, we'll see, okay, I guess, and do a workshop.

[29:32] With the goal, with the goal at the workshop, coming up with the

[29:36] resolution for the commission.

[29:38] With the meeting.

[29:39] Okay.

[29:41] Yes, but I do agree with you, John.

[29:43] It's not the commissions.

[29:45] It should not be the commissions role of applying this product,

[29:49] because, you know, you don't know. I mean, the commission doesn't know how often the grass is cut.

[29:55] You know, there's so many variables. So I think...

[30:00] If he would, uh, it should be your responsibility of the municipality. By the way, try a little, so he told me not waiting before it. As reporters take care of the not lead at the boat ramp there, I was shocked. They did, they did treat it and it was, it's not didn't grow in that one area. So that was good news. They must have read your memory, Steve. Yeah, do you know what they treated it with? Was it, because it's, it's basically only two products

[30:29] are effective. There is the glyphosate-based products like a round-up, okay, and then it's

[30:36] trichole-fear, okay. Now glyphosate has gotten a lot of bad press because of its association

[30:44] with cancer. Although the risk is definitely much greater to the applicators, it breaks down

[30:53] very quickly in the environment.

[30:56] Triclefear.

[30:58] Triclefear on the other hand, okay.

[31:04] There's a lengthy, what they call,

[31:08] re-entry time associated with that,

[31:11] meaning that the public should not be re-entering

[31:14] an area that's been treated.

[31:16] And I believe it's almost for 30 days.

[31:20] So, I don't know if they're posting, you know.

[31:22] all of us we don't know where they're.

[31:28] I don't know that answer. I don't know if I want to

[31:31] ask you there. I can tell you they definitely have been treated. All this and we're going to

[31:35] do the products. Right where they don't know where no weight sign is. Yeah. Right there. They treated.

[31:40] But not really. And then we're going to put in the web and we're going to wrap that up on

[31:44] something. Oh, bro. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. So we'll do a workshop next time.

[31:52] Unbelievable seven.

[31:54] No, six with 16.

[31:56] Six.

[31:56] Six, 50 five.

[31:58] Five, five.

[31:59] Six.

[32:01] Six.

[32:04] Basic.

[32:06] And we're margin.

[32:07] We're talking about it.

[32:09] And by the way, one consideration is a effects on ducks.

[32:13] We don't want another found, right?

[32:15] We don't want a play.

[32:17] No.

[32:19] with this, with this material was spreading out. We don't want to just chase away ducks.

[32:24] You want to just change it, chase away geese.

[32:26] Is that true Steve?

[32:27] Yeah, this doesn't have no, because this, the problem with geese is that they're eating up,

[32:33] you know, they're eating vegetation on the land.

[32:36] And so it's like an open loop system.

[32:38] They take all that phosphorus up on the land and bring it into the lake.

[32:42] Ducks, it's a closed loop. They're feeding on aquatic vegetation, et cetera, that's in the lake already, so they're not a problem, and they're not going to, you know, so this is a goose deterrent technique. It should have minimal if any effect on, you know, on most ducks, maybe kuts, but I mean, we don't have a lot of kuts, so, you know, I would say,

[33:10] malarants and, you know, black duck, et cetera, it's not going to be a problem with them.

[33:17] Even the surgery.

[33:19] He's smiling a little bit.

[33:22] On the coup de.

[33:23] Okay, thanks to you.

[33:27] Swalesville, I have not heard back from the DEP on that.

[33:32] This bill's still out there.

[33:34] The whale's still floating around, unfortunately.

[33:37] I don't feel the fear.

[33:37] And there's no development, and there's no movement on that

[33:41] that conference on 4th Avenue.

[33:44] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[33:46] Plain of still in 24, I had not got a confirmation

[33:49] from the folks at Monothea University, but it's the only

[33:52] date they can be, because all the other games are home.

[33:57] So it's the away games where they can have the events.

[34:00] So that's the one thing they want to see.

[34:03] So that's what we're locked in on that right now, hopefully they

[34:06] come. What else? Any other old business I missed?

[34:13] No. No.

[34:14] The question, so the division.

[34:17] And then they were supposed to be having then a meeting a couple of weeks ago about what

[34:23] they're doing with Orchard Street Plaza.

[34:25] And then it was, they said it wasn't going to be on the agenda that night.

[34:29] You know, it was canceled for being on the agenda.

[34:32] just the ordinance worth and so is there anybody know what's proceeding on that it's

[34:38] that's the planning board right now they're reviewing the redevelopment plans it's

[34:41] it's that's the planning board that's a notion township question and yeah it's not

[34:46] in our flood tonight right so I don't care about it yeah even though it was that I

[34:50] would know if you'd like to hear about it but for me you'll make a mission I really don't

[34:54] care even though we'll say I've talked about it it doesn't actually like it's not

[35:00] it's somebody else's problem. I feel like a commission club. I think American

[35:05] a Facebook post about. He did. Yes. Yeah. My hopes. It's a lot of land. It's amazing.

[35:13] I didn't realize how much life is back. Okay. New business.

[35:20] What the end? I'll get the

[35:21] okay. The key. The thing we're going to do is we're going to put those signs up. Oh, go ahead

[35:25] and see us. Well now, don't worry. I'm going to get signs for the film and just say no fishing

[35:29] or craving within 50 feeding the direction and just post them.

[35:34] Why is that?

[35:35] What's the problem with the fishing by the...

[35:36] Is that it?

[35:37] It's more than craving.

[35:39] The rabbit leaves the lines there.

[35:41] Oh, those lines.

[35:42] Going to the flim and they get tired.

[35:44] I should go over there.

[35:45] So I sent him a picture at a turtle that was wrapped up in there.

[35:49] The day I got it loose is about that big.

[35:51] Oh, he got it.

[35:52] It had stuff, it had sticks wrapped around, so it's...

[35:55] I saw the sticks on it, right?

[35:56] Yes, the sticks get wrapped up with fishing line and they get wrapped up with.

[35:59] the cords from the crabbers and then all of a sucked into the flamethroth. So I'm like pulling cutting.

[36:05] It was a big snap. That was a big snap. That was a big snap when I've seen. Yeah. Yeah.

[36:10] That was like that thing. That's the one in the county man. No, that's another one's down by a sense of bridge.

[36:18] Oh, it looks like a coffee table. Yes. Yeah, people talk about it.

[36:23] It's a big surprise. It's not like a submarine. Yeah. No, no, no.

[36:27] I don't think one of the golf course called Rusty.

[36:30] This is, that is Charles, like a rust car.

[36:32] I don't know if that's good.

[36:34] I saw a copy of them.

[36:35] Then I saw them together, literally, two-foot, two-foot fish of his mouth.

[36:39] Well, it was a horrible, it was a horrible, it was a terrible thing.

[36:42] I think he's pushing back a little bit and they leave it.

[36:46] We can go pick it up in the morning or DFW can pick it up, but when they leave it

[36:49] so close, it just ends up getting quantification.

[36:53] Um, okay, we have a, uh...

[36:56] We don't have any trash. It's a big deal problem.

[36:59] It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal.

[37:01] There was an email was just sent. Can't send to us about not we.

[37:05] Well, the server are limited. Yeah, surely. So they're trying to control. We not we

[37:12] Steve on that, Andy. Do you read that button number by chance?

[37:18] Okay, Steve.

[37:22] Yeah. Yes, I did. Do you want to you want to write a response for them?

[37:29] Yeah, I can put-

[37:30] Together, something really quick. I mean, it's basically what I know it. You know, I mean, the standard approach is if you're going to, you know, first off, trying to dig it up and remove it mechanically is, it's really a waste of time. So the most effective way is with an herbicide, even though a lot of people push back on the herbicide.

[37:54] And the, actually, the best time of year is to apply it, a little bit closer to the fall.

[38:02] And the reason being is that the plant will suck up all of that, the, the, the, the, the pesticide or the herbicide rather.

[38:10] And it goes down into the rhizomes.

[38:13] And that's what, you know, that's the big problem with that plant.

[38:16] It has an extensive underground root system.

[38:19] And that's why I like trying to dig it up is a problem.

[38:21] because if you break those roots, it spreads even more, you know, so, but in any event,

[38:29] like what they're doing, it makes sense.

[38:31] I would just question maybe a little bit of the timing, but, you know, I can get into that.

[38:38] That's fine.

[38:38] I can do a quick response.

[38:41] I guess they do they cut them, and then spray, or they spray on the cut, the cut

[38:47] We did do it right on the cut in spring. Right. That's the best way to do it in the cut in spring.

[38:57] And be honest, we could put whatever response you did, we put on our website because that's a great.

[39:01] We really don't talk about it on a website. That's a great way to do it.

[39:06] So update on fishing.

[39:09] So the hottest thing in one of my answer for kids this summer was fishing.

[39:12] Actually, fishing.

[39:13] Both Lollipop on I saw tons of kids over there and I don't know if they mistaken that they thought we stopped that way

[39:20] But it's well stopped anyways, it's got fishing and but fire is positive and something kids

[39:25] I've seen my some of my scouts come in and a grown there. They're maybe ten inches to me

[39:30] 8 to 10 as long as

[39:32] And I saw the bass the full bass

[39:35] There might be less than there now. I don't know but and the size I've seen the Sunfish court

[39:39] But it's sort of the bass are getting caught and they're having them follow

[39:42] So we could better ourselves on the back for that one. I think we we're talking about putting more

[39:48] Yes, Middosa, maybe a few more baths. Yeah, maybe in the floor. Maybe talk about it next month

[39:54] I'm not sure exactly it's time for you. I could talk to the hatchery guy and ask him

[39:58] But it's something we could go up and get him and bring him down and and dark man

[40:03] Well, we did that we it was top of it was so hot in this pool at the end of school year

[40:09] they could let the kids out.

[40:11] So, for some reason, it's very hard to get a class trip down the street.

[40:16] I don't get too many, too many, too many of the lawyers, every parent's got to prove it.

[40:22] It's a lot.

[40:24] So, a video works, so you do a video in the past, so they're at school, they're at school,

[40:28] they're put into 11, it was stopped, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're blessed

[40:33] by my minister.

[40:35] I should know.

[40:35] Yeah, I should know.

[40:36] West folks, so they don't think.

[40:38] And where did they catch carp when they were fishing or?

[40:41] They did.

[40:42] They actually when they took out, when they drained it,

[40:45] they did we move the car to kill them.

[40:48] They brought the fish that were alive and brought,

[40:51] they could find and brought them over some fish pond.

[40:53] I'm sorry, I'm not a pop-up, but half of those died.

[40:58] Yeah, the smaller ones.

[40:59] Because I recall the next day that they had fish killing

[41:03] live up by said, well, you might have

[41:06] fish kill, but it's really the virus positive. Don't worry, but it's okay. So it was the answer.

[41:12] It's, it drops, it's, it's a lot of, uh, uh, hardship on the fish, growing pointy to pointy. And then

[41:21] it's basically buckets with a little error, errorators on the cell, and a water temperature was

[41:25] regulated, so who knows? Anyway, this is the, uh, the fish is the only thing that we start to

[41:31] great. What's up? Oh my. Okay. I ran out of things. I'm going to show you worse words, Kara.

[41:39] I don't have a lot to say tonight. I could talk about trash forever, but I'll say that for a

[41:43] night. Thank you. I want to wish everybody happy Labor Day and her still lots of goes

[41:50] many times to be had out and you know, late summer and if anybody happens to be out there and

[41:56] see this kayak. This is my new kayak that had a lot. How to off it at the

[42:01] winter mirror. Oh, it's like a lot of slips. Did you find a lot? Nope. It took my

[42:06] lot. And by new kayak that I never got to use. So if you see it, if anybody

[42:11] is sitting on this meeting that sees it, if they could just contact the

[42:14] deal like website, one of the Facebook page open. What's it on the back of the

[42:18] He was in the right locked up.

[42:21] No way. Oh, so soon.

[42:23] Sorry.

[42:26] Okay. Margar.

[42:29] Who's he?

[42:30] Now I need tonight.

[42:32] Now I need tonight.

[42:34] I think Margar was a bit of a year.

[42:36] I'm sorry.

[42:37] Well, nothing.

[42:39] I had nothing to say.

[42:40] I said,

[42:41] we should be good stuff.

[42:42] Throwing free as long as it's free.

[42:44] I saw three bottles.

[42:45] Water bottles on top of my Wesley.

[42:47] with our westernist bridge going to Western others. Three of them. I'll get them on the way home.

[42:53] Okay. I also picked a cone up on Main Street. It's been there for like two weeks.

[42:58] Oh, I know. It's been moving around. I just thought my car and put it in, but it's JCP and that,

[43:03] or I put it in. No. I don't know. I don't know if the answer is to have the chance to pick up and

[43:11] the dreams will work or what. Well, yeah, they should do that. That's one thing.

[43:15] Like people, I stopped and I talked to Norm this week and I thank him for the work he's done

[43:21] keep in the store range clear, clear, trash, and how much it means that I told him that I

[43:26] had brought it up at our 50s.

[43:28] I mean, I would love that.

[43:30] I told Mayor Council to me.

[43:32] Yeah, thank you.

[43:33] It'd be great to have a big pile of money somewhere that we can use to fund cleaning the

[43:39] The name drains, which drains around the entrance to lateria.

[43:42] And because I know we'd have, you know...

[43:44] Oh, great. Oh, shit.

[43:45] Yeah, so I won't run the whole town with folks on and they can back.

[43:52] Like, don't follow the back of the car, but for my morning thought,

[43:55] I've heard that.

[43:56] But that's true.

[43:56] That's true.

[43:58] It's true, though.

[44:00] It's true.

[44:01] Sure, sure.

[44:03] Yeah.

[44:03] It's true.

[44:04] It's true.

[44:06] It's true.

[44:07] What do you think bottles, pants, feet, bottles, what do you talk about?

[44:10] We gotta get wrong.

[44:11] Eric, Eric, anything?

[44:13] You're one minute.

[44:15] Uh, well, it sounds like, you know, we're dealing really well with the geese.

[44:19] But uh, it's just off-public a little bit.

[44:22] And deer are unbelievable.

[44:24] It's just a deer, I don't know, I don't know anything.

[44:26] Burning into my neighbors.

[44:27] And I'd two of them were just kind of crazy.

[44:29] And when I wrote by book damage, what that mean?

[44:32] Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[44:35] That's a great question.

[44:37] A speed.

[44:38] What am I deer poop?

[44:39] Is it similar problem?

[44:43] Less fog?

[44:45] Yeah, I'm not in urban areas.

[44:47] No, I mean you don't have granted.

[44:49] I mean, yeah, there are more keys.

[44:52] I mean, more deer than you would think.

[44:54] You know, roaming around in your backyard.

[44:56] But no, the keys.

[44:58] Is there not anywhere near?

[45:00] There's much of a problem as the geese are.

[45:03] And probably they keep building buildings, where do you supposed to be?

[45:06] No, they're only, they're not allowed to go back to the house.

[45:09] Exactly. That's what happens. They just pushed out of their habitat.

[45:12] That's why you're seeing them more.

[45:14] Yep. Right, right.

[45:15] Josh.

[45:17] More than anything.

[45:18] Good. Thank you.

[45:19] I got one.

[45:20] So, I just can't stand. That's the liquid, liquid, and dump on.

[45:28] JCPNL, Verizon, big stuff, the oil spill, and, you know, when it went forward, I really think

[45:35] we, there's a possibility of a lawsuit somewhere down the road, it seems like the state's

[45:40] got, notice they got the case numbers, but I don't see any action, I don't see any

[45:44] stopping on the hand.

[45:45] I know that D.P. did talk, we talked to him about this during a meeting, and they were shot

[45:50] by the Verizon bank, and they wanted to talk to us, and we'll talk to them, but do they

[45:55] follow up with you?

[45:56] But I don't know.

[45:57] I don't know.

[45:59] But I'm still saying, can we do something on our own and something for you to think about

[46:03] maybe something next week?

[46:04] Can we do something separately and just file a lawsuit against this guy to see what happens

[46:08] and maybe get some clarification and other notes.

[46:13] No, I see these hard.

[46:14] Yeah.

[46:14] Was that sponsored?

[46:16] I'm legal.

[46:17] No, no.

[46:17] It's different.

[46:18] Maybe not.

[46:19] It's been a long time.

[46:20] And so what's the talk?

[46:21] Can I give you an engineer's last minute?

[46:23] Absolutely.

[46:25] Something we take for granted.

[46:26] with our chairman. We can a half a kilo or so don't call me. We talked about the water elevation

[46:34] in the lake and the fact that we were having a severe storm forecast for the day or multiple days.

[46:39] And this has happened a lot recently. And Don said I went down to the flim. The water is at the top

[46:45] of the spillway. It wasn't even going over. They were saying two to four inches of rain later that day.

[46:50] I'm not doing anything. I'm not opening the gate. I'm not opening the water. What do you think? We

[46:54] agreed that would be absolutely right way to go. And no storm came. Typically, we would get a notice from a local mayor or two. Why aren't you opening the gates? Why isn't the water lowered? Why aren't you doing this for that? And that has been very proactive recently. I just wanted to compliment you on that. Well, it's it's a team.

[47:14] I know it's Josh, he's going to beat up, and I'll be honest with our public works.

[47:19] What, but Mayard did, and it's been a force me, but you know, got the people together.

[47:23] The OEMs.

[47:25] But no.

[47:25] Yeah.

[47:25] We talked.

[47:26] Yeah.

[47:27] So we even met with that with the OEM.

[47:29] And there were a lot of people.

[47:30] Yeah.

[47:30] And they're all come.

[47:32] Yeah.

[47:32] And they're all come.

[47:33] And they're all come.

[47:35] Yeah.

[47:37] And they're all come.

[47:43] I talked to you. Yeah, you couldn't drive. I'm literally a front of the fool get wet

[47:49] Yeah, I call him I said you've been a chocolate radar again look it's looks bad all around

[47:53] But it didn't hit on fair. I was a mom brand telek Norris and I looked like the world was a

[47:58] Arbor today, yeah, but thanks. Yeah, the team after Josh been a great hop. It's really

[48:05] A bit different and people are not complaining. I'd say you see

[48:14] And one thing is, you know, everybody forgets this tie in the sunset light, sunset light,

[48:20] you know, don't get into our accent.

[48:21] Yeah.

[48:22] Just a plug for the judging of sunset light.

[48:25] And I guess I can see that before anything else.

[48:27] It's a vessel.

[48:28] They're going to want us to kind of a Leslie.

[48:30] I'm going to talk about that.

[48:31] I'm going to talk about that.

[48:32] I'm going to talk about that.

[48:34] That's it.

[48:34] Let's open to the public and motion to go ahead.

[48:37] Motion to open the meeting to the public.

[48:38] second.

[48:40] David?

[48:41] All right.

[48:42] Okay.

[48:43] It's public.

[48:43] So we have public here.

[48:45] I keep anything.

[48:47] Still on water, first.

[48:49] Do you want to introduce yourself?

[48:50] I don't know.

[48:51] Please tell us about public America.

[48:53] Just who is in the area.

[48:55] We'll get some work over it.

[48:56] I'll just want to introduce myself and see if those any projects that you need to

[49:01] have the ability to.

[49:04] What do you, what do you, what you're going to do?

[49:06] Whether they will.

[49:06] So when you create custom flood barriers systems for residential commercial

[49:12] Can you just cover down for the sock and stuff on my couch?

[49:15] Would you work on an as-where?

[49:20] I don't know.

[49:21] In the olden girl.

[49:23] Did you do a lake house, the lake house music fund barriers?

[49:26] Yeah.

[49:27] They're barriers.

[49:28] They did a big task to have to see if things have other barriers.

[49:32] They have other barriers.

[49:33] If you want to send information to us, we would need to address for you so that's all.

[49:39] They had a door in their basement. The previous owners, I guess they've flooded.

[49:46] And so in 2023, I tried to reach out for them several times, and so finally, beginning of the year,

[49:52] and they were in a short time and looking. So we put up a barrier system. It's similar to

[49:58] This will be our very system here and so it goes up against their door and it blocks the water coming in so I was on the line

[50:06] Then a couple of months, maybe about a month ago, and they were just putting it up with the first time the water was just pouring in the bottom

[50:12] And as soon as they split that ceiling the water completely stopped and I put the water on the other side of the barrier

[50:18] That was the last form. I was on July. It was a mixture. Yeah

[50:22] Wow, we've deployed something somewhere on our buildings on what's like the second buildings

[50:28] There's buildings on deal way the big tower in the giant that's 26th story

[50:33] There's actually that building the deal like deal eight towers. They water coming in the front door

[50:38] And it's gonna happen again, so if you want, you know, send us the information we could get it out there and

[50:47] I was just, you were talking about the stormy ship in Bayon, and I was going to drive that I actually got stuck up.

[50:53] The wire neck of the bottom of the street is like, it's terrifying to see all of that water fish coming up.

[50:58] I don't know, we can knit.

[51:00] The storms are in that.

[51:02] Yeah, three inches an hour.

[51:04] You know, we're, we're standing watching the lake go up.

[51:07] It was the September 29th.

[51:08] You've got to have a three hour thing.

[51:09] It's only so much you can do.

[51:12] This is just our barrier, we have a passive system that you just collected at the

[51:17] speed bump and then when the water comes, it just raises and then it does it all by itself

[51:22] and then it goes down and it alerts you with, you know, text messages and so on up when the water

[51:26] received, it goes like that down.

[51:31] Thank you.

[51:32] Thank you.

[51:32] Thank you very much.

[51:33] I appreciate you.

[51:33] Thank you.

[51:35] Thank you.

[51:38] Thank you.

[51:38] I mean, I have my one of my scouts here for citizenship and community for a better bet or having to have any any questions and interesting meeting, huh?

[51:51] Yeah.

[51:52] It'll be there in the 24th.

[51:54] Get a title in the back.

[51:56] So what would you bring it in?

[51:57] What would you put?

[51:59] I'll put your life scout, your life scout.

[52:01] Yes.

[52:02] I mean, this should suit everyone.

[52:05] It's got a massive argument.

[52:06] How are you doing, sis?

[52:10] Tell them about the shirt you've got on.

[52:13] That's not a true story.

[52:14] What is that shirt?

[52:17] About this and about what we're actually going to do.

[52:19] And what you just were at, right?

[52:21] What was that?

[52:22] Is that a West Virginia?

[52:24] Yeah.

[52:24] And what kind of fun stuff do I have there?

[52:27] A lot of both.

[52:28] A lot of both.

[52:30] That's not much.

[52:30] You did a zip line, right?

[52:31] Did you do the water of extra two or the white water?

[52:35] Yeah.

[52:35] Oh, not much.

[52:37] You do your ego project.

[52:43] There you go.

[52:43] There's some things going.

[52:45] Some things going.

[52:45] Who's talking?

[52:46] We can help you with this.

[52:49] Okay.

[52:49] Next we'll come in.

[52:50] Thank you.

[52:51] Good luck.

[52:52] Anybody else? Anybody out there in the world?

[52:54] Let me see your.

[52:56] Those are some emotional.

[52:58] Public.

[52:59] Second.

[53:00] Second.

[53:00] I'm from Favourite, I'm a poet, I'm a motion to adjourn the meeting.

[53:05] Can you please?

[53:07] Second.

[53:08] Favourite.

[53:08] All of Favourite.

[53:09] I'm a poet.

[53:12] I'm a poet.

[53:12] No.

[53:12] Okay.

Deal Lake Commission Meeting

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