[4:56] Okay, good morning. The Board of Supervisors of the County of Delanor and the governing body of all other special assessment and taxing districts for which said board so acts is now meeting in regular session. Only those items indicate a specific time will be heard at the assigned time. All other items may be taken out of sequence to accommodate the public and staff availability. I think could you please take the role. Supervisor Starky here. Supervisor Wilson here. Supervisor Howard. Here. Supervisor Short. Here. Chair Borgis. I'm here.

[5:25] Please join me in a brief moment of reflection.

[5:43] Supervisor Sarkey, would you lead us in the pledge of allegiance?

[5:45] United

[5:56] States of America.

[6:13] Any introduction of new employees?

[6:16] Yes, Chair.

[6:17] We have two from the Health and Human Services today.

[6:30] Board, Jennifer Orrenman, Public Assistance and Employment and Training Program Manager.

[6:36] This is our new employee, ICW Integrated Case for Courage.

[6:40] Nice to meet everyone.

[6:43] very happy to join you all. I'm excited to help the community and I'm really

[6:49] looking forward to my job. Welcome.

[7:02] Good morning supervisors. I'm Katie

[7:04] Hampson, Program Manager of Social Services and I have Amy Gailer with us. She

[7:09] comes from Solano County with a vast experience in public assistance. However,

[7:14] we have her in our Adult Protective Services Unit. We're very happy to have her.

[7:21] Thank you.

[7:22] Hi.

[7:22] I'm Amy.

[7:23] Thanks for having me.

[7:28] Okay.

[7:29] Council, anything to report?

[7:31] Not at this time, chair.

[7:33] Okay.

[7:34] So at this time, the chair requests any deletions, corrections or additions from board members

[7:39] to the agenda in order to add an item to the agenda.

[7:42] The matter must have come to the attention of the county's subsequent to the posting of the

[7:45] agenda.

[7:46] The matter requires action before the next regular meeting of the board of supervisors.

[7:49] Chair, I do wish to make a request that we withdraw the Delnort Association for Cultural

[7:57] Awareness.

[7:58] They've asked to withdraw their request for funding.

[8:01] However, point or St. George's Reef Lighthouse is to remain on the agenda.

[8:08] Okay.

[8:08] Thank you.

[8:09] Chair, just to clarify, that is related to item number 21.

[8:16] Sorry.

[8:17] Okay, and then also one more thing to mention is the summary page on the general fund was updated to a more the numbers were not updated.

[8:31] The numbers in the agenda are in the budget are correct. The summary page is not correct.

[8:36] and then auditors should have anything you'd want to add to that at this time or do you want to wait?

[8:45] I'll speak to it now and then we can also talk about it at the budget time.

[8:49] So in a nutshell, we balanced the budget out. We had some last-minute changes.

[8:54] I updated the changes. Tied those out to our fund balance.

[8:58] Did not go back and rerun the summary page, which ended up with about a $70,000 discrepancy.

[9:03] The good news is all the detail that was provided to the public it's in the detail

[9:08] So it's in the budget every got a chance to look through the budgets the summary page was off by by 70,000

[9:13] Which I ran some quick numbers which is 0.13% of the general fund again. I'm not making light of an air

[9:19] I'm not making light of $70,000, but it was in the budget. It was a net zero change, so it didn't

[9:26] Change the draw in general fund, but it definitely needed to be in there

[9:29] So we're able to correct that one

[9:30] and some new summary page today to match what the backup showed.

[9:35] Perfect.

[9:36] Thank you.

[9:37] And if there's nothing else, we'll move on to brief reports and announcement.

[9:43] You'd better start.

[9:44] Thank you.

[9:45] Since our last meeting, I did attend the healthcare district meeting.

[9:48] One of the most promising discussions was a collaborative between the Center Coast Hospital,

[9:53] the Delnaught Healthcare District and Wild Rivers Community Foundation.

[9:56] They are assembling approximately $1 million to help recruit and retain primary care physician and other medical professions in the community.

[10:05] I'm an obstacle that they've encountered was finding an appropriate entity to administer and house those funds without a significant administrative cost.

[10:15] So some of the options they explored would take 20%, which really defeats this very tight budget that we always have to worry about.

[10:26] about. So we are looking for a professional that can house the money that can distribute

[10:31] the money to these professionals that come in to recruit and to retain. So I will keep

[10:36] you posted when we have that information sorted out. I attended the Behavioral Health

[10:42] Collaborative. It's a group that brings together representatives from Behavioral Health, the

[10:46] courts, the jail, district attorney, and probation. We've discussed the programs being established

[10:52] within the jail and reviewed the programs and services that our behavioral health department

[10:56] is already providing. I really do appreciate having these partners at the same table because

[11:02] there's a lot of issues that we deal with that are overlapping between behavioral health public safety

[11:08] and our justice system. So it's a good collaboration for us to discuss those. I tend to both the chamber

[11:14] of commerce meeting and the visitor bureau meeting. We received our annual report from the Humboldt

[11:19] Donort Film Commission and I want to highlight that because this Board authorized last year to increase

[11:25] the funding to the Humboldt Donort Film Commission to $15,000 annually. In the past year, the Film

[11:33] Commission reported 18 production inquiries for independent feature location scouts and five

[11:39] shoots supported in just Donort County. That includes work involving the company Audi,

[11:46] IMAX and a video game product.

[11:49] They estimated more than 75,000 in direct spending and more than 21,000 in indirect spending.

[11:59] So that is money going into our community through hotels, restaurants, catering, local

[12:05] crews, etc.

[12:06] So I really wanted the board to be aware of that report because of the investment that

[12:11] the board made.

[12:12] The Film Commission continues to promote tourism, which is particularly valuable to Donor County because of our redwoods and our connection to production such as Star Wars.

[12:23] And it's the economic development investment that we should continue to watch and understand to make sure that our return on investment is something that we are proud of.

[12:34] On September 1st, I held another coffee and conversation.

[12:37] I hold those the first Tuesday of every month from 8 to 10 a.m., at Paragon Coffee.

[12:46] One of the topics this time really was centered around the flock camera system, and it's

[12:52] clear from those conversations as well as calls and messages that I continue to receive

[12:57] that there remains significant community interest and concern surrounding

[13:02] surrounding flock, particularly around the privacy and the use of sharing the

[13:06] data, and I anticipate there will be an opportunity to revisit those issues

[13:11] publicly at a later date. I've also was closely following SB 1013, and that was the

[13:18] proposed state legislation addressing the automatic license plate read a data.

[13:22] The legislature did not advance this bill in this session.

[13:28] So it may return sometime next year.

[13:30] But I don't believe that the public concerns surrounding data access, sharing retention,

[13:35] and oversight is going away.

[13:37] And if anything, I expect the call for clearer guardrails and greater transparency surrounding

[13:42] this technology to continue to grow.

[13:45] And I think that we should be paying attention to it.

[13:48] And that concludes my report.

[13:49] All right.

[13:49] Thanks.

[13:50] Thank you very much.

[13:51] Thank you.

[13:53] Chair board just attended a local meeting of our senior center board in addition.

[14:00] Wanted to thank the hum lab who's a recent business starting up here for all their efforts

[14:05] and really using predictive tools to forecast earthquakes around the world within the 24 hour

[14:12] to 36 hour advanced period could be a game changer.

[14:16] Some of their modeling works out.

[14:17] I'm also excited to see some of the new projects are starting with force fire modeling, which will definitely improve over some of the state models and insurance company models that are not really good predictive tools, but are more used for catch brewing income impacts on structures.

[14:34] Also attended a donor local transportation commission meeting where we discussed the ongoing

[14:40] projects on Highway 199-197 looks like the project portion of the SAT, TWA project on 197 will

[14:49] be wrapped by October and then a lot of the blasting that was going to occur this fall is not scheduled

[14:57] now to occur until next.

[15:00] Winter, sometime in 2027. Also, heard a corridor management plan for Highway 101, presented by CalTrans,

[15:08] looking forward to seeing what they have planned here in the future besides just the larger

[15:13] perspective around last-chance grade and some of the activities that we're looking to move into very

[15:19] quickly now, which is the design and engineering phase, which we spoke about at the last meeting.

[15:24] Also, attended a Board of Coast Regional Airport Authority meeting where we advanced our

[15:30] Airport Capital Improvement Plan, which translates into our

[15:35] Airport Improvement Plan, two different items, but one translates into the other.

[15:41] Really programming out the geotechnical and design phase for runway 1230, that's the one facing

[15:47] the ocean west, and then in addition looking at projects around the engineering around our runway

[15:53] lighting and then also some of our fuel farm work that definitely needs to take place in

[16:01] the near future as it's crumbling infrastructure and we really need to find the funds to do it

[16:07] which are not the same source of funds that we generally use to pursue those airport

[16:12] improvement projects which have a 5% match. Unfortunately, the fuel farm in this case would have a

[16:18] 50% match. So looking to our partners to help alleviate some of those massive costs around

[16:24] that fuel farm replacement. Also met with John Coleman, who's the new senior vice president

[16:32] of advanced airlines. And he presented also at the bocker of meetings, but really emphasized

[16:39] to him the importance of employment and moving forward on those increased employment and getting

[16:45] back about 10,000 here to trigger certain funding criteria that we look to meet with

[16:50] the Department of Transportation.

[16:52] And then also wanted to thank the Delnurt Firesafe Council and all their work they're doing

[16:57] going into fall here.

[16:59] I know they had a lot of projects on private lands this year through some of the federal

[17:03] and state dollars that flowed into their programs, but they've been doing a wonderful job, especially

[17:07] in gas scheme.

[17:08] How you see, getting lands cleared, really look forward to having discussions with them

[17:13] in the future on the Smith-Declamath Initiative

[17:15] and then additional work.

[17:17] And then lastly, I'll end.

[17:19] I had an invitation to the Council General of San Francisco

[17:24] for a Japanese language summit and ways

[17:29] that we could help out through sister city programs.

[17:32] I offered up some of the unique examples

[17:35] that the Delnar County Unified School District,

[17:38] along with the Delnar County Office of Education,

[17:40] I see Superintendent Harris in the room today has really done thinking outside the box and how we could bring a credentialing program to Japanese teachers who are in Japan to stay to California help implement these programs.

[17:56] I know specifically my son after returning from a sister city visit in 2019 really wanted to take Japanese and found no programs locally were even in the region and had to take programs going into his junior year.

[18:10] of high school through a Sac City College online.

[18:14] He eventually became very fluent in the language here

[18:17] this last couple of years graduating from Davis,

[18:20] but I really appreciate the efforts

[18:22] because I know at least our Japanese club

[18:24] and our international club at Delnar High School

[18:27] is a grown above 155 students,

[18:30] and it's really great to see this interest of kids

[18:32] to look outside our borders of Delnar can.

[18:35] That's the end of my report.

[18:36] Thanks, Professor Howard.

[18:37] Thank you.

[18:41] Chair.

[18:42] We worked over with myself.

[18:47] Supervisor Howard, as well as the.

[18:50] Reckon parks on making sure that the docs got into the climate.

[18:57] Little ramp.

[18:59] They hadn't been there for a good number of years.

[19:01] They just been installed.

[19:03] Staff be going down today to deal with the maintenance issues.

[19:07] using and around the parking lot trash and other some

[19:10] abandoned vehicles that have been put down there. And they

[19:13] will be addressing some of those issues in climate. I've been

[19:16] working on that issue over this last two weeks. Nothing for

[19:21] the report. Thank you.

[19:22] Thanks, Christ Wilson.

[19:24] Christ short.

[19:26] Okay. I just have a short little announcement. The since our

[19:32] last discussion, since our last meeting has been a lot of

[19:36] discussion about the flock cameras. And we had consensus to bring it back to a future meeting.

[19:41] I chose not to bring it back to this meeting because after discussing with the sheriff and some

[19:46] of the community members kind of felt that more of a town hall setting so they could have one on one

[19:52] with the sheriff. And he's also agreed to bring in the chief of police and the highway patrol.

[19:58] So that way everybody can get their questions answered directly from the sheriff on exactly what

[20:04] these cameras are being used for and what their purpose are in each department.

[20:08] And then once that happens, we will bring it back to the board so we can discuss

[20:12] future contracts. And as soon as we have a date, I will pass that along.

[20:19] So that'll take us to our scheduled timed item. 10-15th,

[20:23] proven to adopt a proclamation, clearing September 2026 as recovery awareness month

[20:28] as requested by the Director of Health and Human Services.

[20:34] We have a motion in a second. Any public comment?

[20:40] None. I'll close public comment.

[20:41] Highly. Supervisor Wilson? Yes. Supervisor Short? Yes. Supervisor Howard? Yes. Supervisor

[20:50] Sturkey? Yes. Chair Borgis? Yes. And, Supervisor Short, would you read this into the record?

[20:56] Certainly, Mr. Chairman. This is a Proclamation of Recovery Awareness Month, September 2026.

[21:01] come

[21:06] on down, if you'd like to come on down.

[21:10] Whereas National Recovery Month is observed each September to celebrate people living in recovery.

[21:15] Recognize the families and communities who support them.

[21:19] Honor those who have lost and promote the message that recovery is real.

[21:24] And whereas behavioral health is an essential part of overall health and well-being.

[21:30] and substance use disorders are treatable health conditions from which people can and do recover

[21:36] when provided access to effective person-centered treatment and recovery supports. And whereas

[21:43] substance use continues to have a significant impact on Delmar County, which continues to experience

[21:51] one of the highest rates of opioid-related overdose deaths in California, emphasizing the importance

[21:57] of prevention, early intervention, treatment, and recovery support, and whereas the county

[22:05] of Delanoort Department of Health and Human Services' behavioral health branch, substance

[22:10] use disorder treatment program served 324 unique clients during the most recently completed

[22:18] fiscal year, connecting individuals with services and supports that promote health, stability,

[22:24] and long-term recovery.

[22:26] And, whereas, recovery is real and achievable

[22:30] with 73% of adults nationwide

[22:33] who reported ever having a problem

[22:37] with alcohol or drugs.

[22:38] Drug use, considering themselves

[22:41] to be in recovery or recover.

[22:44] And, whereas, recovery is strengthened

[22:46] through evidence-based treatment,

[22:49] peer and family support,

[22:51] support, farm reduction, stable housing, employment, and community connection while reducing

[22:58] stigma helps create a community where people can ask for help and pursue recovery with

[23:05] dignity and support.

[23:07] And whereas we commend the County of Delmarth Department of Health and Human Services, behavioral

[23:12] health branch, tribal and community partners, health care providers, families, peers, and

[23:19] and people with lived experiences for their continued efforts to prevent overdose, expand

[23:24] access to treatment, reduce stigma, and support recovery throughout our community.

[23:30] Now therefore be it resolved that the Board of Supervisors of the County of Del Nort here

[23:35] by proclaims September 2026 as Recovery Awareness Month and calls upon our community to celebrate

[23:43] recovery, honor those we have lost, reduce stigma, elevate the voices of people with lived

[23:49] experience, and strengthen access to prevention, treatment, and recovery supports so that

[23:56] recovery is possible, supported, and celebrated throughout Bill North County.

[24:02] Passing adopted this eighth day of September, 2026.

[24:08] Thank

[24:21] you, Chair Boarders and members of the Board for recognizing September as Recovery Awareness Month.

[24:27] One of the most important messages in the recovery month is that recovery is real and recovery is possible.

[24:33] You'll often hear people say that people recover loudly so others don't suffer in silence.

[24:38] It's a little bit when I'm going to go into.

[24:40] So with our permission, I wanted to share a story of one of our own behavioral health employees, Ashley Carey.

[24:46] Ashley started in our office as a part-time employee early into her recovery and since then I've

[24:51] watched Ashley promote to a client service specialist, a recovery specialist one, a recovery

[24:56] specialist two, and is now in the position of a supervising behavioral health specialist.

[25:01] Those are just her job titles and they're only really part of Ashley's story.

[25:05] I've watched Ashley become a homeowner, I've watched her become a grandmother, returned to school,

[25:10] earned her associate's degree and her bachelor's degree, and right now she's attending Cal Poly

[25:15] Humble pursuing her master's degree in social work. Most recently, with the assistance of

[25:20] root and rebound, Ashley reached another milestone in her journey by addressing a felony

[25:26] that was from her past, closing not chapter of her life, and it represents another important

[25:31] milestone in her recovery journey and another barrier from her past that no longer defines her future.

[25:37] Today, she uses those lived experiences to help others. Her ability to connect with clients,

[25:42] Provide hope and demonstrate what recovery life can look like is invaluable to our behavioral health system.

[25:49] Ashley is proof that the hardest chapters of someone's life do not define the rest of their story.

[25:54] And there are many other Ashley's in this community. Summer years into recovery and summer just

[25:59] beginning. Others may not believe that their different life is possible. Our hope is that we have

[26:05] the responsibility to ensure that they know that there are opportunities in ways to find out how to

[26:09] move into recovery. Recovery is possible, recovery deserves our support, and

[26:14] recovery is something we're celebrating. Thank you.

[26:22] Congratulations Ashley. I've

[26:25] been watching you too and you are an inspiration and I really, you're the

[26:30] model of how recovery matters and I really appreciate all that you do and how

[26:36] you highlight that for the rest of us in the community.

[26:40] Thank you guys.

[26:41] The only thing I got to say is, in my life, in my experience, addiction knows no boundaries.

[26:49] It affects everybody and you can be successful and a professional and be addicted to drugs

[26:57] and you can be impoverished and poor and be addicted to drugs.

[27:03] Whatever your addiction is, when you finally turn and choose that you want to give up that

[27:10] addiction is when it becomes significant in your life. And I want to thank everybody that's back

[27:17] there because again, some of those that have been through it are some of the best unguiding and

[27:24] passing a message of possible success to those that are looking to get away from addiction.

[27:30] You cannot force someone into recovery. However, when they choose,

[27:36] It is wonderful to have this community here that can help hold them up when they're

[27:43] weak and guide them when they need it.

[27:46] So thank you all.

[27:55] Shane, your employees are quite incredible in this department.

[28:00] They are.

[28:02] I've got to add to Supervisor Wilson, Supervisor Starkey's comments.

[28:06] I mean, she's not the only one, right, with this lived experience.

[28:10] and it's pretty powerful in helping to take that next step for those who aren't there yet.

[28:16] To be able to identify with that person, try and take the steps.

[28:19] So it's a big shout out to your staff that go through this to try to help the citizens of our community get there.

[28:26] So thank you.

[28:27] Thank you.

[28:35] Okay.

[28:36] That will take us to our 10-20 time item.

[28:40] Approved and adopt a proclamation for claiming September 2026 as suicide prevention month as requested by zero attempts representative Gordon Clay.

[28:48] There's kept prayer.

[28:51] Second, we have a motion, we have a second, any public comment.

[28:57] I'll give you a chance Gordon.

[28:58] Yeah, if you don't have to do public comment right now, you'll have, we'll bring you up, you can talk all you want after if you'd like.

[29:05] Okay.

[29:07] We'll close public comment.

[29:09] Bring it back to the board, Kylie, could you pull the vote?

[29:13] Supervisor Short?

[29:14] Yes.

[29:14] Supervisor Wilson?

[29:16] Yes.

[29:17] Supervisor Howard?

[29:19] Yes.

[29:20] Supervisor Starky?

[29:21] Yes.

[29:22] Chair Vorgis?

[29:23] Yes.

[29:24] Supervisor Starky, would you read this?

[29:25] I would probably.

[29:27] Proclamation.

[29:28] September is suicide awareness and prevention month, whereas suicide is a major public health problem with immediate and long-term effects on individuals, families, and communities.

[29:37] Whereas suicidal thoughts can affect anyone regardless of age, gender, race, orientation,

[29:42] income level, religion, or background, and suicide is a major public health issue that

[29:47] requires vigilant attention and preventative action.

[29:51] The ongoing stress is brought on by social unrest and the growing inequality increase

[29:56] the risk of self-harm.

[29:58] Each death by soon.

[30:00] To decide directly impacts numerous family members, friends, loved ones, and by extension the entire rural community. Research shows that 95% of adults would do something if someone close to them was thinking about suicide. If they only knew what to say or what to do. Now therefore, the Downark County Board of Supervisors here by per claim September 26 a suicide awareness and prevention month. Be it further resolved that the Downark County Board of Supervisors

[30:29] encourage all citizens to learn the warning signs, trust their debt, and use that information

[30:35] to ask a troubled friend, colleague or family member, are you okay?

[30:40] And be prepared to listen, that conversation could change alive.

[30:45] Pass and adopted on this 8th day of September, 2026.

[30:48] For

[31:12] the record, my name is Gordon Clay from Brookings, Oregon, and a attempt survivor.

[31:26] Suicide is September Suicide Awareness and Prevention Month, which offers a chance for

[31:33] frank discussion about suicide and a time to bring awareness to the issue from multiple directions.

[31:41] The suicide is a serious public health issue, and it is preventable.

[31:47] Facts in 2024, the latest completed data, almost 49,000 people died by suicide in the United States.

[32:01] And that's 14.4 per 100,000.

[32:08] and I don't have California data, but you're not too far different than Cree County.

[32:20] Cree County is the 27th largest county in Oregon.

[32:24] in 23, we ranked 13th highest suicide rate for 100,000.

[32:31] In 7th, in 24, in last year, 4th.

[32:38] Main indicators of these high suicide rates

[32:42] is that we are rural county with a large contingent

[32:46] of veterans and elderly.

[32:53] This graph shows 19 years of data

[32:56] The suicide rates grew faster in Republican leaning counties, up by 41.4%, compared to

[33:07] the increase in only 19.6% in Democratic leaning counties.

[33:12] I'm not doing this as a political issue.

[33:15] This is a fact of what happened over 19 years and this chart will give you.

[33:22] And I've got all of this as data on that information.

[33:29] Furthermore, in 2019, the age-adjusted rates for deaths from nearly all major causes, including

[33:38] suicide and unintentional injuries, were higher in Republican-leaning counties.

[33:45] Researcher suggests that the difference in public funding, health funding, social safety

[33:52] nets, and health policies such as Medicaid choices create disparities between regions.

[34:00] World areas often face a higher risk of suicide and limited access to mental health services

[34:09] regardless of potential political leanings.

[34:14] Students training as therapists, active therapists,

[34:19] crisis line counselors, and those who attempt suicide are about 75% female,

[34:26] only 25% male attempt.

[34:31] Men, however, die nearly four times more often than women

[34:35] because of their serious intent to die, not because they use weapon.

[34:42] Therefore, they are more likely to use highly lethal and violent methods such as firearms

[34:47] that were hanging.

[34:49] Women report thoughts of suicide and attempts more frequently.

[34:54] They are more used to poisoning and drug overdoses, which have a higher chance of medical rescue.

[35:03] firearms are used in more than half of all suicides. A half of the suicides in 23 in

[35:12] Burkings,

[35:16] half of the ones by firearm were women, four women, and four men. It was the

[35:26] only situation in the state of Oregon.

[35:31] The majority of the desks by suicide are preceded by telling signs, either verbal or behavioral.

[35:39] Even with knowing this list of signs, we have all experienced a friend or a colleague

[35:47] who wasn't acting their normal self as of a report.

[35:52] So, research shows that 95% of people wouldn't do something, but they don't know what to do.

[36:01] You've got brochures all over in 44 locations here in Curry County.

[36:07] I mean, in Delmart County, with the RU-OK brochure that tells you all of that, please get

[36:13] one.

[36:14] Remember, learning the signs and trusting your gut and starting the conversation by simply

[36:21] asking are you okay? Good save a life. And just a quick note, we've got the third Curry County

[36:31] wellness and health and wellness expo up in Curry County this Saturday from 10 to 2 and we're

[36:40] doing a walk also and all we boost and all that kind of stuff. And the first 200 people that get

[36:47] their get a free hot dog dinner so we'd like to amplify this but the big thing is if you've

[36:56] kind of friend check in with them every now and then if you want them to be a friend for a long

[37:02] time and especially if they're going through a divorce or lost a job or something happened with

[37:08] their kids because we can't keep losing people that are so easy to read you know if you just say

[37:19] I'm here for you without a lot of talking I'm here and I'll listen thank you garden thank

[37:38] you

[37:45] of between addiction and suicide.

[37:48] Both are cries because someone is hurting

[37:53] and they're seeking relief through drugs and alcohol

[37:57] to escape their pain.

[38:00] And ultimately, unfortunately, if they can't,

[38:03] they will attempt suicide.

[38:05] Sometimes those suicides are pleased for help

[38:09] and trying to draw attention to their pain.

[38:12] but oftentimes it's escape.

[38:15] What we have seen is a ugly trend, unfortunately,

[38:19] that we've seen in the last half a dozen or six years,

[38:25] where we have seen younger and younger people choosing suicide

[38:29] to end their lives at a very young age

[38:32] because too much of the time it's these things

[38:35] that have led them to that decision in their lives.

[38:40] the attitude and oftentimes the returns that you get from simply posting

[38:48] something about yourself or posting an opinion and the vitriol that comes

[38:53] back, the ugliness and the hatred and the disgusting comments that are

[39:00] returned to people because of the anonymity because these people don't know who

[39:06] you are, they don't see you as a real person, they only want to respond out of

[39:12] their disdain or their dislike for what you may have said or what you've posted.

[39:19] I hope that we learn to be kind. I hope that we see every comment as a person

[39:29] that is deserve the dignity and the recognition for their own opinions and leave it

[39:35] that you may not agree, but you don't have to be disagreeable because we lead these young people,

[39:45] they feel there is no escape except to take their lives. And that's very sad.

[39:52] May we find, hopefully, if there is not a person in your life that you find to

[39:58] saw us that God loves you and that he will always love you no matter where you are

[40:04] no matter what you've done and may we hopefully be a kinder kinder person so that we do

[40:11] not lead people to believe that their only hope is to end their life.

[40:26] I'm sorry. Okay, thank

[40:47] you. Again, Gordon. That'll take us to our 1025 time item. Public comment. Members of the public may address the board on matters which are within the jurisdiction of the board. If you are addressing the board regarding a matter listed on the agenda, maybe ask to hold your comments until the board takes up that matter. Please leave me your comments to three minutes or less.

[41:06] You

[41:15] know,

[41:17] I'm embarrassed,

[41:21] and I'm embarrassed because I didn't know the difference between

[41:25] enomination and endorsement.

[41:28] That's ugly.

[41:30] So, I apologize Joey, Chris, and Hillary.

[41:35] I just saw him.

[41:36] Oh, they sent my papers!

[41:39] That meant that he endorsed me, but it is not, and I deeply, deeply sorry, that's horrible.

[41:47] on other matters.

[41:53] Has anybody been watching that?

[41:56] Never mind, I'm not going to talk about that right now.

[42:00] That's it.

[42:01] I'll leave it on a good note.

[42:02] Thank you, guys.

[42:03] I love y'all.

[42:04] And thanks for doing a great job.

[42:06] Apology accepted.

[42:07] Good

[42:14] morning, Boris.

[42:16] Thank you for this time to talk.

[42:18] Today I'd like to talk, first of all,

[42:20] Eva Lopez, Vice President, as the IU-1021.

[42:24] And today, I'm speaking as not only a union member and a county resident, but also a mother.

[42:32] So the union appreciates the county's efforts to stay competitive and support employees while we recognize the implementation of the salary survey and increasing wages.

[42:44] As helped, we also acknowledge that there is significant work ahead of us still.

[42:49] Alongside these wage improvements, we welcome continued collaboration on opportunities that

[42:56] can strengthen and enhance policies, procedures and overall employee support while reducing recruitment

[43:03] barriers.

[43:04] I'd like to share some ideas.

[43:07] So key opportunities to improve retention, strengthen clear internal promotion tracks, mentorship

[43:16] programs, cross-training and professional development training, so current employees can

[43:23] advance and grow.

[43:25] And I mean beyond what we're already offered.

[43:28] I mean real-time support and leadership development to supervise, for supervisors to ensure

[43:37] consistent support, supportive management practices and executive mentorship.

[43:43] This is not the first time I've brought up executive mentorship in our county.

[43:48] Probably will not be the last.

[43:52] Maintaining support for the flexible hybrid schedules to help improve work-life balance.

[44:00] AB 1729, which is California's hybrid telework schedule bill passed both houses.

[44:07] And it shows the state support to continue the strength.

[44:11] Thank you for the annual employee recognition.

[44:17] Please continue doing those.

[44:21] And we, your employees, are your most valuable asset.

[44:25] When leadership engages us, we can accomplish more than expected.

[44:30] Oftentimes with minimal additional resources.

[44:33] Regarding recruitment barriers.

[44:37] If we can simplify the application and hiring process, that would help.

[44:44] CalHR Merit Departments face low and complex hiring steps, with the average processing time

[44:52] of about 95 days.

[44:56] Many qualified applicants accept employment elsewhere during

[45:00] This period.

[45:03] And I don't know if anybody has looked recently, but oftentimes, Cal HR job descriptions do not align with county expectations and operational needs.

[45:17] This also creates an unnecessary, limiting applicant pool. And strengthening messaging around competitive benefits, such as retirement, health, lands, and job stability.

[45:31] some recruitment improvement ideas, develop trainee or apprenticeship programs for difficult

[45:40] to fill positions by partnering with programs such as the Redwood Coast Regional Center

[45:46] and their partners to participate in the paid intern program, which is also called PIP through

[45:53] that program, and this is where I'm speaking as a parent to an adult, high functioning autistic

[46:00] child. So PIP is 100% externally funded. Participating employers carry zero

[46:11] financial and legal liability for wages, workers compensation, and any job

[46:17] related costs. All employment risks including payroll, workers comp claims,

[46:23] administrative burdens, etc, are fully covered by the program. Okay, I introduced it. Thank you.

[46:32] I wanted to give you as much as I could, but

[46:44] as was clear from the last person that was here at

[46:48] this podium, very often the ability to clearly enunciate what you're trying to convey to the board

[46:56] doesn't factor in a three-minute time segment. And while I appreciate the fact

[47:04] that in this particular case the chairman of the board actually was

[47:12] considerably lenient and by right should have been. And so I would thank him in

[47:19] that regard. I don't know how you can convey an idea in three minutes properly, probably

[47:28] you can't, but I don't know how you can have a board meeting where you have literally dozens

[47:37] or multiples of people that want to speak on a particular topic without somehow limiting

[47:44] the amount of time that they have but since we don't often have a lot of people that come before

[47:51] this board and provide a public comment, I would really appreciate the kind of commitment that

[48:00] Mr. Borges or Supervisor Borges has provided speakers in the past the ability to go slightly beyond

[48:11] their time. Thank you. Well thank you Sam.

[48:28] Good morning. An ounce of

[48:30] prevention is worth a pound of cure. So that being said, it is what I am trying

[48:34] to accomplish here. Some language will be added to assist with artificial

[48:37] intelligence, AI, verbal and written word recognition on search engines, looking

[48:42] for phrases containing Donor County Crescent City, road division, damage

[48:47] destruction liability, occurrences, repeated pattern, behavior, failure to

[48:52] train or supervise deliberate indifference widespread persistent practice condones or ignores

[48:58] a copy of this statement will be posted on an open Facebook account on my name Aaron Skrobac

[49:04] A-A-R-O-N-S-K-R-O-B-A-C-K along with photos. A video will also be publicly posted to my YouTube

[49:12] account as well. On Wednesday, September 2nd, 2026, on North Wildwood Lane here in Crescent City,

[49:19] California at 8.30 a.m. the road division crew began digging up the ditches along the

[49:25] road and the process of digging the operator of the excavator damaged destroyed broke

[49:31] several of the shrubs hedges in front of my property for I was able to have them stop.

[49:36] The ditch they were digging out in front of my property did not need trench more had the

[49:40] culvert cleared.

[49:41] Both ends of the culvert were completely open and no flooding has ever occurred there.

[49:45] This is the second year in a row. This damage has occurred. This year, the incident is being

[49:50] known as, I do not want any further destruction of my property in the future. If I am experiencing

[49:55] damage caused by the road division, it is reasonable to assume that others have or will as well.

[50:02] It is much more difficult to argue a rogue employee or accident is to blame. When a pattern

[50:08] of willful destruction of a homeowner's property can be shown. Therefore, this email with

[50:14] picture, speech and facts will be delivered to the donor county supervisors, the City Council

[50:19] members, road division, the Tuesday, September 8, 2026 Board of Supervisors meeting, and

[50:24] City Council meeting. It is not unreasonable for the Board of Supervisors or the City Council

[50:29] members to request before and after photos of the work the road division is doing. As

[50:34] the work on my road did not need done at all and was a waste of taxpayers' money. Doing

[50:39] work that is unnecessary, just to say it was done, and to collect funding for the road

[50:43] division should not occur.

[50:47] Furthermore, the crew spent more time on break, not working

[50:50] at all, sitting at the end of a dead end street and any job they were performing. Since

[50:55] the Board of Supervisors is currently looking for areas to cut spending, the road division

[51:00] should be closely examined. For the record, the plate number and the road division Dodge

[51:04] Pickup truck was 168 by 672. The dump truck number was 49 and the cat caterpillar excavator

[51:13] Identifying Markers were JU7H54 and NM78661. All I'm really trying to accomplish here is for the area in front of my property to be left alone as I maintain it regularly for it to be treated as if it were your own.

[51:31] The ditch and culverts are unobstructed. There's no reason to request for any such work to be performed at this location.

[51:36] And hopefully those will prevent any bad situations

[51:40] or anything in the future with other property homeowners.

[51:42] That may experience similar situations.

[51:45] Thank you.

[51:46] Thank you.

[51:57] Carla Seminas, SEIU, local 1021.

[52:00] I'm up to give the rest of the recruitment

[52:07] improvement ideas.

[52:09] Developed trainee or apprenticeship programs

[52:11] for difficult to fill positions by partnering

[52:14] with Redwood Coast Regional Center, their partners

[52:16] and participate in the paid internship program, PIP.

[52:20] PIP is 100% externally funded.

[52:22] Participating employers carry zero financial or legal liability

[52:25] for wages, workers' compensation,

[52:27] or any related employment costs.

[52:30] All employment-related risks, including payroll,

[52:33] workers' comp claims, and administrative burdens

[52:34] are fully covered by the program.

[52:37] The county provides structured training

[52:39] and gains highly capable internal talent

[52:41] who becomes strong long-term contributors.

[52:43] Many capable citizens with disabilities want meaningful work.

[52:47] This pathway connects them to employment while reducing staff overload, a major contribution to turnover.

[52:54] Utilizing PIP means the county does not dedicate resources to recruitment or early stage training.

[52:59] At the end of the internship, the county gains train, motivated employees, ready to work or continue through an extended PIP period.

[53:06] Most importantly, supporting departmental stability by easing staff overload.

[53:11] Because PIP is fully externally funded, more money stays within the community, strengthening

[53:17] the local economy vitality, local economic vitality.

[53:21] With the Board's proactive support now, the county can help stabilize the general fund,

[53:26] deficit, prevent unnecessary financial pressure later, and reduce the likelihood of future

[53:30] layoffs.

[53:31] Thank you.

[53:42] Good morning, Chair and members of the Board.

[53:45] My name is Stephen Jackson.

[53:46] I am actually coming to you guys as one of the partners for the Rebus Coast Regional Center

[53:49] to kind of expand on the paid internship program,

[53:52] also more affectionately known as PIP.

[53:55] So, the opportunity of the paid internship program

[53:58] or PIP to the Rubikos Regional Center

[54:00] helps people with developmental disabilities gain real,

[54:02] paid work experience in community employment.

[54:06] It is not volunteer work, it is a paid internship designed

[54:09] to help someone build skills, establish a work history,

[54:12] and become more competitive for long term employment.

[54:14] For the employer, PIP can offer or can cover the wages

[54:17] of certain employer related costs

[54:19] while the employer provides meaningful work, training, and supervision.

[54:22] I believe this creates real opportunity for the county.

[54:25] We continue to hear that vacancies, recruitment challenges, and positions that are difficult

[54:29] to fill, and at the same time, there are people in this community who want to work, and maybe

[54:33] capable of doing the work, but who may never get the opportunity to demonstrate that through

[54:37] a traditional hiring process, and that's where PIP can bridge the gap.

[54:41] My agency's relatively new to the county, I've been doing this work for 20 years in this

[54:46] community. I'm not a stranger to the PIP. My agency is. So we started in January.

[54:53] Opportunities that we've helped people develop up to this point have brought in money from out of

[54:57] the area to be able to pay their wages. This last month we had over $20,000 in wages that went to

[55:02] an impoverished portion of our community. That means a large portion of that money stays within

[55:07] Delnaur County. So that unit of itself is huge. We're taking people from needing to have

[55:13] of constant benefits and sometimes without purpose,

[55:18] they end up falling through cracks

[55:20] in requiring more resources to come in

[55:22] from other county departments.

[55:24] So this is a way for people to be able to go in,

[55:26] have purpose, contribute and become meaningful

[55:29] members of the community beyond who they already are.

[55:33] The county could develop and identify appropriate work,

[55:37] bring in an intern, train that person

[55:39] in actual county operations and evaluate their attendance,

[55:41] performance, reliability, and ability to learn over time.

[55:44] We also support in that process.

[55:46] We can provide one-to-one job aids

[55:47] to be able to help develop those skills,

[55:50] so it could also bridge the gap for supervision

[55:53] that you guys may feel would be above and beyond

[55:55] what a traditional worker would bring you.

[55:57] So again, a benefit to the workforce

[55:59] for Delaware counties, you're almost getting a two-for-one

[56:01] in that aspect.

[56:04] I'm suggesting that we use this as a pipeline to employment

[56:07] and not a replacement for your guys' normal operating

[56:09] practices for recruitment and retainment. The request is simple. I would ask that the board

[56:14] direct human resources and county leadership to meet with Redwood Coast Regional Center and

[56:18] local pit providers to explore a small pilot program in one or two departments. Start small,

[56:23] measure the results, look at attendance, performance, supervisor experience, skill development,

[56:28] and whether the internship leads to future competitive employment. So always the goal of what we're doing.

[56:33] We're not looking to provide a free worker for the county. At the end of the day,

[56:37] We want to build a provide a foot in the door for an opportunity for people who receive the services that we provide

[56:42] And if that means that it leads to gain full employment at the end of their their internship amazing if not the best thing that happens is

[56:50] You guys got a great worker for a year and we have somebody with job experience

[56:54] We'll put our resume to get gain full employment elsewhere. So it's a win-win for all parties involved

[56:59] We have departments that need reliable workers. We have a workforce that you want to provide that service

[57:03] So we would appreciate if it was looked into and seen as an opportunity to move forward.

[57:09] Thank you. Thank you.

[57:19] Hi, it's Alicia Williams. So I was doing research based on the

[57:24] Constitution because I found out that the oath that the board members take to uphold the Constitution.

[57:31] It has to be signed. It's a legal requirement. It does not come with copies of the Constitution.

[57:37] there's nothing that we're doing as a county to provide copies of the

[57:41] Constitution with that oath and I believe that this huge deficit that we have

[57:47] in education of understanding the Constitution, understanding the laws at

[57:52] the local level that are upholding the values in the Constitution, specifically

[57:56] the Brown Act for meeting requirements, how to engage with the public that when

[58:01] and they come with concerns, grievances, criticisms.

[58:06] Okay, the amount of abuses that I've witnessed

[58:08] in almost two years since I began going to public meetings

[58:12] is so unacceptable.

[58:14] I mean, it's just,

[58:15] and so I've been trying to find out what are the root causes.

[58:18] A lot of people talk about the misogyny here.

[58:20] Well, it's not just misogyny, it happens to males as well.

[58:24] It's I think that if you look at most things

[58:27] that happens where people's rights are being violated. It goes back to lack of education

[58:34] and ignorance. Anything that's hateful, whether it's misogyny or any kind of discrimination,

[58:40] it's usually because someone is uneducated and they're ignorant to things and they're

[58:46] reacting from a place of not understanding, right? So when I did the research on the Constitution,

[58:52] there's this, it's Constitution Day is, excuse me, it's designated as Citizenship Day

[58:59] and it's September 17th and then beginning in 1952, well they did some in 1952 in 1956,

[59:07] they designated Proclamation Week for Constitution Week, September 17th to the 23rd so that's

[59:14] starting next week Thursday to the next week and so during that what the Proclamation

[59:20] and the presidents because different presidents have done it and they do it

[59:24] you know like you guys do like you do the recurring proclamations and in that

[59:28] they encourage the local officials and leaders of civic social and

[59:33] educational organizations to conduct ceremonies programs that celebrate the

[59:38] Constitution and reaffirm our rights and obligations as citizens so this is

[59:44] another big thing that I've witnessed is people don't understand the role of

[59:48] went back in the days when we were small and we had the founding fathers, we had a much higher education level,

[59:55] and they were wanting people to engage more and that was part of how they...

[1:00:00] Constructed our constitution. So many people don't know at all anything how civics works. I had brought that up before they eliminated civics education after the civil rights movement in the 60s, because the powers that be really want to hold on to power and the status quo. So I'm just telling you that this is something I really encourage because the the amount of grief that the public endures over really, really simple things like criticisms that are valid.

[1:00:29] that have all kinds of evidence. It's not like somebody's just being rude.

[1:00:33] They're trying to get things corrected and they're abused.

[1:00:36] I've been abused many times. I've been defamed many times.

[1:00:40] It's not right. We're trying to correct things because there's a lot of oppressed people in this community.

[1:00:46] And then I did send you guys the email that has two seconds.

[1:00:51] That has this information that I just read as well as the US and the state constitutions attached to it.

[1:00:57] So that way hopefully you guys can arrange to have that start happening in the community. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:01:06] Okay, if there's nothing else, I'm going to close public comment.

[1:01:11] And that'll take us to our 10 30 time item.

[1:01:22] Okay, yeah, I'll open it back up. Come on down.

[1:01:46] My name is Ethan Sinclair. I'm a tall-awed travel member and I'm here to address the

[1:01:55] logical scientific fallacies in the current water management in the Smith River and most

[1:02:02] dangerous fallacies that claim that low levels of copper are safe. Talking about living

[1:02:09] animals, Chinook, Coho, and Steelhead that depend entirely on their olfactory system is

[1:02:14] survive. Peer-reviewed science confirms that trace amounts of dissolved copper as low

[1:02:19] as two parts per billion attack the olfactory neurons of these fish. It effectively blinds

[1:02:25] them. A salmon that cannot smell its way home is a salmon that cannot spawn. When you allow

[1:02:30] copper in the water, you are assigning a death warrant for these species.

[1:02:36] Well, this isn't

[1:02:37] a hypothetical risk. This is an ongoing leaching of neurotoxins from the lily bulb fields and

[1:02:42] quite likely many other corporations that are directly polluting our rivers. Our livelihood

[1:02:46] good every time it rains. The logic of vegetative buffers is failing.

[1:02:51] Residata shows that water soluble toxins like diuron bypassing these filters

[1:02:56] entirely. This is a constant daily discharge of chemicals into the rivers

[1:03:03] into the rivers when there is a completely

[1:15:00] I will open it up for public comment.

[1:15:10] Good morning. I know you all love to see me here.

[1:15:13] P.J. Estlin. I'm going to make this quick. I've completed a summary analysis of fiscal

[1:15:20] year 27 latest budget and the following is my evaluation of the analysis results. On review

[1:15:27] of the fiscal year 26 year-to-date actual and the fiscal year 27 budget totals represented

[1:15:33] by the budget summary report and the department budget reports, I've identified some conflicting

[1:15:39] totals in the fiscal year 26 actual net gain loss and the fiscal year 27 budget expenses

[1:15:46] and revenues. In emails with the auditor to controller, I was told the budget summary report

[1:15:51] was produced one or two days before the department budget reports. He told me this morning that

[1:15:57] he went back and checked it wasn't quite that far apart.

[1:16:01] Since these totals are moving target until the fiscal year end is completed and the budget

[1:16:08] is approved, it is critical that those documents are produced at the same time which could prevent

[1:16:13] these variances. The budget variances are identified here. The budget expense on the budget

[1:16:19] summary report is $71,000 less than the miscellaneous revenue expense reflected on the department

[1:16:27] budget reports. The budget revenue on the budget summary is 71,000 less than the miscellaneous

[1:16:33] revenue. The budget revenue reflected on the budget department budget reports. The budget

[1:16:40] expense which do not agree with the conflicting worksheets is 71,000, which he mentioned.

[1:16:48] The fiscal year 26 variances are more concerning since the fiscal year 27

[1:16:53] in budget is based on those actuals.

[1:16:55] The budget summary report shows a year-to-date gain of $2 million while the department budget

[1:17:03] reports reflect a gain of $3 million, $3.1 million.

[1:17:07] This is a variance of $1.1 million.

[1:17:10] The average loss over the previous three years is $1.1 million each year.

[1:17:18] All things being equal, this would increase the conceivable net overall gain loss for

[1:17:26] a total of 2.2 million.

[1:17:28] This will increase the fund balance, 1.1 million, and add to that the current fund balance

[1:17:34] of 6.2 million, and you would have a 7.3 million fund balance and need to increase your expenses

[1:17:41] by this amount based on the Budget Act of 1.1 million.

[1:17:46] And I'm concerned about the validity of the numbers presented to the board today.

[1:17:51] There is still work to be done before September 22nd.

[1:17:55] If you are to approve a final fiscal budget for fiscal year 27, I do not have access

[1:18:01] to the data used to prepare the budget summary report, therefore I'm unable to identify the

[1:18:06] actual line items within the departments.

[1:18:09] However, I have identified the relevant departments.

[1:18:13] I've provided Clint with my worksheet and this information, I'm sure he will address those issues.

[1:18:21] Thank you.

[1:18:31] I just have a question.

[1:18:36] Oh, there's a baby.

[1:18:39] Oh gosh.

[1:18:41] Okay, well, so my question is, if Mr. Shad is not presenting me with the numbers, but you're going to vote on it,

[1:18:53] How can you vote on it without the numbers being presented?

[1:18:59] Oh, never mind.

[1:19:00] And I think you might have missed the very beginning where he updated the.

[1:19:04] No, I'm talking about the.

[1:19:07] On the.

[1:19:10] You're talking about item three.

[1:19:12] If we don't know what it is, how can we vote on that today?

[1:19:15] We're just giving him direction to be able to apply that money once he knows it.

[1:19:20] So is that correct?

[1:19:21] but the public doesn't alert, right?

[1:19:31] Okay, no more public comment.

[1:19:35] I will close it, bring it back to the board.

[1:19:37] Item three for any motion or more questions or comment.

[1:19:41] I move to approve.

[1:19:44] I'll second.

[1:19:47] Motion in a second, Kelly.

[1:19:50] Supervisor Starkey?

[1:19:51] Yes.

[1:19:52] Supervisor Howard?

[1:19:53] Yes.

[1:19:54] Supervisor Short?

[1:19:55] Yes.

[1:19:56] Chair or excuse me, Supervisor Walson?

[1:19:58] Yes.

[1:19:58] Chair Borgus?

[1:19:59] Yes.

[1:20:00] Okay, item four.

[1:20:01] Approved the use of the County General Funds for their operational budgets of the Pacific

[1:20:05] Shores, Fish and Game, and Veteran Cemetery Budgets.

[1:20:10] This is where I have some questions, Sheriff.

[1:20:13] You want to?

[1:20:14] So, what I want to talk about is this final, I've kind of written my words so that I don't

[1:20:18] get too sidetracked, but the final budget identifies significantly more general fund revenue

[1:20:24] than we anticipated in June.

[1:20:25] within miscellaneous revenue and expenditures alone, revenues increased by approximately

[1:20:30] 1.57 million and staff chose to add approximately $735,000 in transfers, including what we're

[1:20:39] in this item today, but also increasing a borrow payment from $195,000 to $500,000.

[1:20:47] And I really feel this board needs to understand the policy basis for prioritizing that additional

[1:20:53] 530 and $7,000 payment.

[1:20:56] Over the week and I did ask when the board gave that direction to prioritize an accelerated

[1:21:01] payment and was told that it was either this board or previous board but there was no determination

[1:21:07] of exactly when that came down.

[1:21:10] But this leads me to my other question is why now?

[1:21:13] If this deficit is existed for years and the board directed repayment years ago, why in

[1:21:23] pay more than double the recent payment and move toward a three or four year pay-off.

[1:21:28] What changed?

[1:21:29] We spent this budget cycle expressing serious concerns about the general fund.

[1:21:34] Departments were asked to scrutinize their expenditures.

[1:21:37] We limited staffing requests.

[1:21:39] We imposed a general fund hiring freeze.

[1:21:42] We went through workshops looking for reductions.

[1:21:44] And ultimately the general fund budget before us is approximately $393,000 lower than the one

[1:21:51] that was presented to us in June.

[1:21:54] Yet during that same process, the budget team is choosing

[1:21:56] to recommend an increase of a one transfer,

[1:22:00] time transfer of approximately $307,000.

[1:22:03] Now, I'm not saying that's not necessarily wrong.

[1:22:06] It's not a wrong recommendation.

[1:22:07] It may turn out to be excellent financial advice.

[1:22:10] But if we're this board is gonna make that choice,

[1:22:13] I really feel that we need to have an analysis behind it

[1:22:17] and why that was chosen to be done.

[1:22:20] I don't see that in this particular item, I see the same transfer bucket being

[1:22:27] fishing game and veteran cemetery and Pacific shores. That's all in the same bucket.

[1:22:33] I do not see borrow in that bucket, but it's all within that same kind of transferring thing.

[1:22:39] So I feel we need to have a little bit more information before us as to why the

[1:22:44] budget team made this choice to increase that payment.

[1:22:47] I don't believe this board has had that opportunity to hear that.

[1:22:52] Okay.

[1:22:55] Let's see. Is that something you could address now or come to whoever?

[1:22:58] Yeah, sure. Absolutely.

[1:22:59] This is basically just based on the year-end fund balance and noticing that we had some resources available.

[1:23:05] During the budget workshops, the board made it kind of clear that you didn't want us to put things in contingency this fiscal year.

[1:23:11] It's one of those things that were kind of spotlighted through the CDAA process when we had the fires.

[1:23:16] Smith and Rick complex.

[1:23:17] They kind of frowned on us having that set aside for contingency.

[1:23:20] This is typically where those funds would go from a recommendation from the budget team,

[1:23:24] but noticing that the past direction from the board of a payment in the amount of $190 to $200,000

[1:23:30] to address that deficit at the Barrow Fund is not actually reducing that balance because of the ongoing

[1:23:38] operational cost at Barrow, which include insurance and include cost plan charges.

[1:23:43] And also negative interest, that fund is negative.

[1:23:46] So when the interest is apportioned, like Auditor Shad said earlier on daily balance.

[1:23:50] When it's a negative balance, it gets a negative interest charge, and so it's compounding that deficit.

[1:23:55] So the current board direction of about a $200,000 payment per year is not addressing the deficit.

[1:24:01] And so the recommendation based on resources available is to increase that payment to $500,000 this year.

[1:24:06] And hopefully for the next couple of years, to address the $1.4 million estimated deficit at the borrow fund.

[1:24:11] And the borrow deficit becomes a general fund obligation once the operations are ceased

[1:24:17] and revenue was no longer generated for the operations.

[1:24:23] But my question is why wasn't this presented to the board so that we can understand?

[1:24:28] We don't even, I mean, you just told us the balance is 1.4 million.

[1:24:31] What is the interest rate?

[1:24:33] What are some of the things that are that we need to determine on how to pay this off?

[1:24:38] That hasn't been presented to us, and that's what's frustrating to me, to be honest, is

[1:24:43] that we see this increase staff has made this recommendation, again, I probably is going to be a fine recommendation.

[1:24:50] But for us to be able to make the decision that this is going to happen, I think that we deserve to be able to be told the reasoning behind that in some sort of presentation for it to be in the board report for there to be some sort of discussion.

[1:25:04] Yeah, I actually don't disagree with that.

[1:25:05] I think this was kind of one of those timing issues that the fund balance was not available

[1:25:10] till the very last minute.

[1:25:11] Unfortunately, we had a ton of delays this year that some are typical, some are not.

[1:25:17] And it was frustrating on a number of ins for a lot of us trying to get to this final process.

[1:25:23] A lot of it has to do with the new system in our departments who are still learning that

[1:25:26] system.

[1:25:27] It's been a learning curve.

[1:25:28] It's been a pretty significant learning curve.

[1:25:30] And so having these funds available kind of at the last minute and looking at the previous

[1:25:34] approach to addressing the deficit not being effective, it's just a recommendation by

[1:25:38] the budget team.

[1:25:39] Of course, this board can totally do something different with those funds.

[1:25:42] You can put them in reserve, you can put them in contingency, you can direct them towards

[1:25:45] other programs.

[1:25:46] That's completely at your discretion, it's just a recommendation of the budget team to try

[1:25:49] to address the deficit more proactively so we can get it off the books.

[1:25:54] Now, and I'm comfortable with the recommendation if I had the background information.

[1:25:58] So if we could just remember to do that in the future and before this comes before us for the final budget

[1:26:04] I would love to be able to see the logic behind it. I'm not saying there's not logic behind it

[1:26:09] I trust that you have very good intentions and that you're looking out for the best interest of the county

[1:26:14] But for us to make a decision. I think that we are do that that process

[1:26:19] I'm sure you had something that yes

[1:26:21] I just kind of a related question about borrow seeing this in miscellaneous revenues and expenditures

[1:26:26] I know that $500,000 as well, but nowhere in the general fund budget, is there a borrow

[1:26:33] item? I found it in non-general fund listing. Can you explain how we pay for something out

[1:26:42] of the general fund, but it's listed as a non-general fund? It just confused me. I just

[1:26:46] appreciate some explanation.

[1:26:48] Yes, certainly. The borrow fund was when it was operating was a special revenue fund,

[1:26:53] and it generated its own revenue based on wards at Borrow.

[1:26:57] And it would pay, it fully funded the operations at Borrow

[1:27:00] for a number of years.

[1:27:02] Towards the end of the Borrow existence in operations

[1:27:05] it no longer funded the operations

[1:27:07] and accumulated a deficit.

[1:27:10] It became before the board at that time numerous times

[1:27:13] with a request to shut Borrow down

[1:27:15] because of the lack of revenues being generated

[1:27:18] because of the change in youth offenders

[1:27:20] and how they were being treated in other counties

[1:27:22] and they were no longer sending them to Dolorant County for that revenue.

[1:27:26] And so once the board actually took that direction and closed Barrow,

[1:27:31] a significant deficit had already accumulated, that then becomes a general fund obligation.

[1:27:35] That is a county operation, and so the general fund has to cover that.

[1:27:39] Appreciate the explanation.

[1:27:41] Thank you.

[1:27:43] There's no more questions at this time.

[1:27:45] I just want to ask, does this item need to be amended to approve the use of county general funds

[1:27:52] for operational budgets? Does it need to include VARO or is it, are you comfortable with just

[1:27:57] PACS or a fishing game in the veteran cemetery? We don't need to include VARO in that even though

[1:28:03] that's all under that one section. No, this is a little bit different because the other requests

[1:28:08] are actually dealing with operational budgets. They are still ongoing, they're still operating,

[1:28:13] they're still providing services and functioning as an open budget. The VARO is a closed budget,

[1:28:18] it can either be absorbed into the general fund or kind of isolated in the special revenue fund

[1:28:23] as the debt gets paid off. It's easy to account for it, keeping it separate and then making that

[1:28:28] general fund contribution to offset that deficit. What is the interest rate on borrow? The interest

[1:28:33] rate is changes on a yearly basis. It's based on the pooled rate for the treasury. So when you do the

[1:28:38] interest apportionments like you do for other funds, it's based on that rate.

[1:28:44] Okay.

[1:28:49] I'll make a

[1:28:50] second. Okay. We have a motion. We have a second. Public comment. No closed public comment and

[1:28:57] Kylie. Supervisor Howard. Yes. Supervisor Wilson. Yes. Supervisor Short. Yes. Supervisor

[1:29:06] Starkey. Yes. Chair Borgis. Yes. Okay. Final item for number 17 is number five. Proof

[1:29:14] the end of the temporary hiring freeze approved July 14, 2026 for all positions fully or partially

[1:29:20] actually funded by the county general fund effective immediately as requested by the CAO County budget officer to approve second motion we have a second any public comment any

[1:29:36] left near president of Delnort County employees association sia you tend to one local.

[1:29:42] I would just like that in the future we don't call it a hiring freeze when it's not an actual freeze it causes.

[1:29:48] is a panic in the public and with the employees.

[1:29:53] We didn't actually freeze anything.

[1:29:55] We slowed down our hiring process

[1:29:57] and just the terminology causes them.

[1:30:00] So, distrust. Thank you for that. Okay, there's no other public comment. I will close it and bring it back to the board. Anything further? Okay, heavy. Supervisor Starkey. Yes. Supervisor Fort. Yes. Supervisor Wilson. Yes. Supervisor Howard. Yes. Share board. Yes. Yeah, our 1045 time item. Number 18, receiver presentation regarding the proposition. 64 public health and safety grant by Lonnie Raymond.

[1:30:29] chief provision officer.

[1:30:33] Actually somewhat deceiving that I'm presenting because I'm just being

[1:30:37] the intro and quickly handing it off to the important people in the room. I'll give you a

[1:30:42] little background in much of what you've heard. We received a Prop 64 grant that was effective in 2023.

[1:30:49] It lasts until mid year 2028. Through that initial process of going through the board of community

[1:30:57] and state corrections webinars and onboarding and all of those things that took us through the fall

[1:31:04] into the winter of 23 and into some of the initial processes through the end of that year and through

[1:31:10] 2024. As we wrapped those pieces up, it became clear that I really needed a partner that was well

[1:31:21] resource that had capacity and the ability to take this out to the broader community and was

[1:31:28] positioned to do that effectively. That partner came along in the form of the County Office of

[1:31:34] Education. And so we entered into an agreement with them. Early last year, spring-ish last year and

[1:31:42] they were able to onboard our program director who's been working since late last year and has made

[1:31:48] significant progress. Prop 64 is coming out of the taxes received from marijuana. So dispensaries

[1:32:00] throughout the state, any associated costs, as part of that, a portion is cut out for these grants.

[1:32:08] And our county was awarded a Prop 64 grant specifically to look for programs for you that would help move that process upstream to help avoid some of what we've talked about already today some of the addiction issues some of the impacts on our communities.

[1:32:29] And so in that vein, the COE stepped in and I think has done a masterful job, like I said,

[1:32:36] I'll try and keep it brief. I'll introduce Superintendent Jeff Harris and he'll give a little bit

[1:32:41] of an overview on how the COE is handled.

[1:32:47] Thank you, Lonnie. Supervisors, thank you for allowing us to come

[1:32:52] today to report on what's going on with Prop 64. Again, in light of some of the other presentations you've

[1:32:58] already heard, you're all familiar with the South African parable of the upstream downstream,

[1:33:04] right? Villagers downstream seeing people in the river, they're going, they're rescuing

[1:33:11] the people out of the river, they're talking about building hospitals, they're talking

[1:33:14] about, you know, ramping up emergency services, they're talking about all of those things.

[1:33:19] Finally, somebody turns around and walks away and the villagers get angry, saying, why

[1:33:23] aren't you staying to help? And he said, I'm going to go find out whether all falling

[1:33:27] in the river, right? And I think that's what we're doing with Prop 64. We are really focusing on

[1:33:34] prevention and early intervention in a way that is very different from other counties. And again,

[1:33:40] I want to thank you as a board and Chief Raymond for his faith in what we could do as a county

[1:33:47] Office of Education and partnership with you because what we've done with your other departments

[1:33:53] over the years are really leading the way in some of the I think most innovative things that are

[1:33:59] happening statewide and in some cases even on a national front. So I will tell you he said that

[1:34:06] there are important people in the room and that is not me. That's our supervisor who is overseeing

[1:34:12] the Prop 64 grant. I've asked Jennifer Magroup to come present to you today how the grant is being

[1:34:18] utilized and how it's being allocated over the next few years. So, Jennifer?

[1:34:28] Good morning.

[1:34:32] I am pleased to be here with you. Sorry, just a wee bit nervous.

[1:34:37] But the kudos need to go to the advisory committee and several members are here in the room.

[1:34:49] And it's a group of community members that were brought together before I was hired.

[1:34:53] and they eloquently and passionately described what they wanted to see happen in the community.

[1:35:02] So, after multiple meetings, they were able to come up with decisions for funding.

[1:35:08] And so, it's my pleasure to tell you that there are six programs for Delnort County.

[1:35:14] The first community program would be with True North Trillion, and that is a team court.

[1:35:20] It's a structured diversion program, and their award was $168,540, and the second program

[1:35:32] from True North Trilium is 18.

[1:35:37] Oh, sorry, thank you.

[1:35:43] Yeah, that helps. All right, so the first one

[1:35:49] is the John Wilson Teen Court. You can see it's a structured diversion program for first time non-violent

[1:35:55] youth. They're receiving referrals by the school probation law enforcement and community partners.

[1:36:01] It is restorative justice and it will serve youth up to the age of 20. The second program that

[1:36:09] is community-based is also from Trillium. It's the teen drop-in center. It is a prevention-focused

[1:36:15] after-school program. Youth will be referred by the community partners and self-referral. I should

[1:36:24] mentioned that all of these programs will focus on substance abuse and cannabis prevention

[1:36:31] as far as being used by youth under legal age. And so the team drop-in center will focus

[1:36:40] on youth prevention, mentorship, resilience, and positive youth development. Their focus

[1:36:46] will be on youth ages 10 to 17 and their award was 700,000.

[1:36:54] Sorry. Now I'm doing Lonnie.

[1:37:00] I just want next to the top one.

[1:37:10] Sorry, I just got progressive lenses

[1:37:12] and I can't see anything. Anybody else with it? Yeah, it's taken back. That's okay. Thank you.

[1:37:22] good community input. Okay, so the grant for the special district went to Del

[1:37:26] Nord district to library. That is the Del Nord reads youth tutoring program. That is going

[1:37:32] to be paid youth employment. They look to higher youth train them to be responsible tutors.

[1:37:40] There's going to be mentorship and outreach involved in that. Those tutors will then

[1:37:48] the youth, the younger youth in the area, and provide mentorship. So that is a program

[1:37:54] for ages 12 to 20, and their award was $830,000.

[1:38:01] The school district had two awards. The

[1:38:04] first one was to the Crescent Elk Middle School Distance Running Club. It's a structured

[1:38:09] evidence-based program, excuse me, for youth development. Referrals are coming in largely

[1:38:16] from schools at this point but also community partners. It is a supervised after-school activity

[1:38:22] and ages 11 through 18. The program director of this has already received interest from other schools

[1:38:33] to join, so it's very positive. Their award is for $40,000. And the next program, the curriculum

[1:38:41] program known as Northern Voices. It's a collaboration with UCSF, and it's a trauma-informed behavioral health curriculum

[1:38:50] focusing on emotional regulation and healthy relationships for youth ages 12 to 18, and that was a

[1:38:57] $20,000 award.

[1:39:00] And the last program was for the county, and this is for Delnort County Recreation

[1:39:06] programs. It's going to be for all three of their youth recreation programs. Kids can't basketball,

[1:39:12] team league and they agreed to add a cannabis prevention curriculum serving youth from ages

[1:39:21] 6 to 18 and that award is for $304,000. Are there any questions?

[1:39:33] I have comments that anybody that knows me knows that I am passionate about making sure

[1:39:40] we have opportunities for our youth here in Donark County and following the closure of

[1:39:45] of our juvenile hall. I took that really hard. You know, Sam will recall that I even shed a tear

[1:39:52] because it's important to me. It's important that we make sure we get upstream that we start

[1:39:57] looking at where we can help these kids not fall into the system. And I've been part, I'm not a

[1:40:03] voting member but I've been part of the planning session for all of this and these programs give me

[1:40:09] hope that we are doing exactly that. We are getting upstream, we are looking at ways in which we can

[1:40:14] and help direct these kids prior to them getting into the system to begin with.

[1:40:19] I appreciate your work, I appreciate the County Office of Ed and probation.

[1:40:23] I think we are headed in a great direction, and I'm excited to see where these programs take us.

[1:40:32] I'll stand.

[1:40:38] Again, my hope is that the dollars go where they're intended and

[1:40:43] and the process that, and health in this area.

[1:40:48] One of the major concerns that we see is the trend lines

[1:40:52] of marijuana and alcohol.

[1:40:55] Just recently, we surveyed show that marijuana has now

[1:41:00] surpassed alcohol as far as being the drug of choice

[1:41:04] and utilization.

[1:41:06] And so we've seen a dramatic increase.

[1:41:08] When we drive through our community, you can't help

[1:41:10] but seeing all the cannabis retail businesses that surround us and are prevalent in our communities.

[1:41:19] And the impacts that it has, especially on young youth mental development, is significant.

[1:41:29] Where we have, if you have an individual that uses daily use of marijuana over extended period of time,

[1:41:37] it leads to mental health issues of psychosis and paranoia and delusions.

[1:41:42] Most of our shootings that we've had, those that have gone to school shootings,

[1:41:48] have had history of long-term medical or marijuana utilization

[1:41:54] that development of the brain between until your 27 is critical,

[1:42:02] that it is significantly impacted by marijuana use.

[1:42:05] And so as we try to address these issues, it is good that we finally have some resources

[1:42:11] that are going to try to hopefully educate youth that there is an impact on your choices.

[1:42:19] If you do have chronic utilization, it does have significant impact on not only your mental

[1:42:24] health development, your brain development, but the course in your life.

[1:42:28] So, thank you for hopefully taking up these issues and hopefully the dollars going to

[1:42:35] Delna Reed will actually be utilized in the library district for actually addressing literacy

[1:42:42] because that is a significant problem in Delnaur County as a whole.

[1:42:47] As we see more and more kids coming through the system but not having a grade level reading as a capability

[1:42:55] and if you cannot read, and more importantly, you do not understand and comprehend what you're reading

[1:43:02] and the significance that it has to you, you are significantly impacted on what your life goals

[1:43:09] and how you will be able to obtain a job, a career, or happiness in your life. Thank you.

[1:43:17] Okay, I will open up for public comment on that presentation.

[1:43:27] How do I get a copy of that presentation is listed in the in our would it be possible

[1:43:35] for her to get a copy of that presentation would be the best I write for the

[1:43:39] money if you just want to email it to me all for it to Linda.

[1:43:42] Perfect. Thank you.

[1:43:52] Okay so it's Alicia again so that presentation is not a link on the agenda packet

[1:43:58] that she just did the presentation it's not a link well I would like a copy if you could please

[1:44:02] because there's just a huge discrepancy. I had corresponded with Denise Doyle Schnacker in May on the 19th to ask about this drop-in services the after school one because when I saw a flyer is literally for like one hour and I was concerned about how you can meet goals and it was just confusing.

[1:44:27] And so in within that response that I got she literally says they only have 20,000 a year when this I'm sorry

[1:44:35] I don't know her name. I didn't get to catch her name that just did that presentation

[1:44:39] Just said it was 700,000 dollars that they got. So did something happen between May 19th and

[1:44:47] September 8th, which is today to go from 20,000 a year to

[1:44:51] 700,000 is that 700,000 for a like a number of years. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me

[1:44:57] me. So whatever 20 device.

[1:45:14] Thank you for your question. I forgive me. I should have stated that these funds were started July 1st of this year, so the information that Denis Stoylschnecker gave you would have been correct because these funds have been

[1:45:29] All contracts were signed on July 1, and it is funding through June 30th, 2028.

[1:45:39] Thank you for carrying that up.

[1:45:41] Okay, if there's nothing else from the board, thank you so much for the presentation.

[1:45:47] That'll take us to our 1055 time item.

[1:45:50] Public hearing on workforce vacancies, recruitment and retention.

[1:45:54] And I, I, I care you drew our human resource risk management director.

[1:46:09] Good morning, chair supervise.

[1:46:11] Wilpsan attendees.

[1:46:14] Is the presentation on workforce vacancies recruitment in retention in arts with

[1:46:18] government code section 3 502.3?

[1:46:26] Are there presentation?01

[1:46:29] There

[1:46:29] was one in the packet, but I didn't get a separate one that you will. And

[1:46:33] that is a PowerPoint. You

[1:46:35] want me to send that to you, or there was no.

[1:46:38] clarification on that. Oh that if that's possible. Okay, or I can read from it.

[1:46:43] Either way, we would take a break for a little bit or let's take a yeah and then

[1:46:47] that's yeah, we will take a five minute break. We'll take it out and we'll be back at

[1:46:52] 7.50 or 11.50. I'm sorry. Okay,

[1:54:37] we've got one minute and we'll be back in session here. So one more

[1:54:41] minute.

[1:55:10] Okay, welcome back. We are back on item number 19, which is our 10.55

[1:55:15] I have time to item public hearing on workforce vacancies recruitment and retention by human resource risk management director carry them.

[1:55:23] We should have everything we need now.

[1:55:26] Perfect.

[1:55:27] There it is.

[1:55:28] Here we go.

[1:55:29] That makes a lot more sense when I'm speaking to it.

[1:55:31] Thank you for that.

[1:55:38] Okay.

[1:55:39] AB2561 added section 3502.3 to the Myers Brown Act required local public agencies to annually assess and present job vacancy data.

[1:55:48] The goal of this statute is to address public sector understaffing and protect both public service delivery and employee building.

[1:55:56] Our presentation today covers county staffing metrics, systemic recruitment barriers, current improvement efforts, retention initiatives, and statutory opportunities for employee bargaining groups to speak, which I do believe we have seen today.

[1:56:11] Countywide metrics out of 483 authorized to full time positions across the county, we currently have 99 total vacancies.

[1:56:18] their share presents an overall vacancy rate of 20.5% reflecting a significant progress from last year's report, which was 25%.

[1:56:25] This also reflects an unofficial drop from triple-digit vacancies for the first time in many years.

[1:56:32] Looking across specific units on the table on the presentation, SEIU shows a notable improvement dropping from a 33.99% vacancy rate last year down to 24%.

[1:56:43] Meanwhile, we see units like mid-management group, they saw an uptick in about 18%, while others

[1:56:48] like SEA and confidential remain lower at 14% and 15%.

[1:56:51] Many of these smaller bargaining units are impacted significantly, and they have one or two

[1:56:54] changes in total positions, and many are being impacted by retirements over these coming

[1:56:59] years.

[1:57:05] Over the past 12 months, we received 1,571 applications and brought in 111 new hires.

[1:57:11] Virtually employee separations dropped to 71 departures as a 17% reduction compared

[1:57:18] to last year's 86, and from 128 and 2324, that showing our retention trends are moving

[1:57:23] in the right direction.

[1:57:30] Our agreement pipeline, so over 600 candidate interviews, annealed an impressive 96.15%

[1:57:35] drop offer acceptance rate.

[1:57:37] However, process bottlenecks remain significant with 708 applicants feeling initial screening

[1:57:42] qualifications and 183 candidates currently active in the pipeline. Of those, 97 worked

[1:57:48] duplicative, 144 no shows are not available for the scheduling and 162 were withdrawals

[1:57:54] during the treatment process.

[1:58:00] Any bargaining unit exceeding 20% vacancy rate does trigger

[1:58:03] enhanced transparency rates upon formal request. I did provide it in the presentation today

[1:58:07] automatically. These additional disclosures include detailed breakdowns of vacancy counts

[1:58:11] by unit, applicant volume, processing timelines, and working condition improvement plans.

[1:58:18] The first group we do have here is the IU. It's the 24% vacancy rate with 73 positions

[1:58:25] open, enhanced reporting applies. We did process 486 applicants for these roles, but the full

[1:58:32] hiring process currently averages 95 days from posting to offer, which is a portion of the

[1:58:38] continued improvement. It will have on the next slide discussing that pipeline.

[1:58:41] mid

[1:58:45] -management group has 13 vacancies out of 72, putting in vacancy rate at 18 percent.

[1:58:52] With 100, with 115, I think on this slide, you can't really see the additional one just

[1:58:58] to note that.

[1:58:59] It's 115 applicants log hiring for these roles, average in a 61 processing timeline.

[1:59:09] SCA Sheriff's Employee Association, they carry 14% vacancy rate with 10 open positions out

[1:59:15] of 62.

[1:59:15] we received 104 applicants for these positions

[1:59:18] and has an average hiring timeline of 93 days.

[1:59:28] Policies, procedures, and recruitment barriers.

[1:59:31] There's a few different sections in here on these table.

[1:59:34] Key barrier is our 38% qualification failure rate,

[1:59:38] alongside limitations in our current applicant tracking system.

[1:59:41] Additionally, merit positions can't for over 43% of SEIU open roles,

[1:59:45] creating specialized hiring bottlenecks in that procedural process,

[1:59:48] that's required by Maryam.

[1:59:57] Paul, is the Youth Procedures of Improvement Solution.

[2:00:00] To expand our recruitment, we are using targeted marketing and building those programs and developing regional educational programs to build a global pipeline for hard to fill certified positions. Externally, we are also implementing the new HRS system that will interface with our applicants. It will include applicant tracking modules, which will be slated to launch the end of next month for implementation or full implementation. Alongside that, we'll be monitoring some of our qualifications, working on child descriptions and minimum calls.

[2:00:31] and we're closing into a year of implementing the county's compensation study.

[2:00:35] So we're seeing the effects of that increase in starting wages as well.

[2:00:47] UKG is the new HRIS applicant tracking system that we had purchased to streamline many of our current modules and migrate from our existing applicant tracking system,

[2:00:57] which creates many of those bottlenecks I spoke to you before retention is going to be driving in performance through UKG.

[2:01:04] It's the platform, and expansion will include performance management and growth opportunities,

[2:01:10] succession planning, the full new recruitment system, performance and learning management

[2:01:15] as well, and I'll tie directly to learning opportunities and growth opportunities as well

[2:01:19] for internal candidates, and part of the recruitment program we are currently working on developing,

[2:01:27] which will be updated very soon once we go live with UKG.

[2:01:33] On the ground, we are spotlighting achievements in our county newsletters, hosting dedicated

[2:01:37] employee recognition events, recognizing longevity milestones, and driving health initiatives

[2:01:42] with wellness challenges and incentives.

[2:01:51] Opportunities to improve compensation on this working conditions.

[2:01:55] We are moving forward and our strategy really relies on data-driven programs, which is why

[2:01:59] this new system will be so critical and obtain that information to identify where our

[2:02:04] gaps are.

[2:02:05] Our employee programs and employee feedback and structured career development frameworks that

[2:02:09] we can continue into the future,

[2:02:13] and so these initiatives are sustainable.

[2:02:15] These will be directed to target the root cause

[2:02:19] of our vacacies in foster long-term workplace stability.

[2:02:25] And that is my last slide.

[2:02:28] Great.

[2:02:29] Initial questions or comments?

[2:02:32] Hi.

[2:02:33] Do I short?

[2:02:34] Go ahead.

[2:02:35] Kerry was mentioned earlier today in the use of CalHR.

[2:02:39] Are we mandated to do that in some sections of the county?

[2:02:42] I had heard at MercyRC that from other supervisors that it's a pain in the neck and they would

[2:02:50] like it rid of it.

[2:02:51] So, I didn't have much information about it.

[2:02:53] I was just going to worry wondering about that.

[2:02:56] There is a requirement to participate in the program for our merit positions.

[2:03:01] There is opportunities to develop an internal program and be able to opt out.

[2:03:06] The opt out program does have to be approved by merit before we can take that in-house and

[2:03:10] And that is something we are exploring what that may look like in the opportunities for the county to improve our procedures.

[2:03:17] Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

[2:03:20] Yeah. The only thing I would like to see a breakdown of is is those positions that we've had and have had in our community and our county, where the vacancies have been extensive extensive for longer than a few years and because I know that there are positions that we've had.

[2:03:39] vacancies that we've had where we've either never been able to fill those vacancies or that we've been having very limited opportunity to fill those vacancies.

[2:03:48] One of the recent examples is I can think of this path where we're supposed to be doing a 24-7365 and we just haven't been able to fill and fill those vacancies enough to be actually able to implement the full determination program.

[2:04:05] And I know that that exists throughout our county in many different positions where either

[2:04:11] the qualifications are not met or we fill and then lose them to another organization very

[2:04:18] quickly.

[2:04:19] I know our counseling or clinicians are very much transitory.

[2:04:25] And so we have a problem in competing and getting and holding on to these positions because

[2:04:30] there are so competitive that I'd like to have maybe a breakdown of that 72 vacancies

[2:04:36] are that we have or 99 vacancies that we have as countywide. What are the what percentage

[2:04:42] of that is actually long term systemic issues. I know within the sheriff's office, you know,

[2:04:49] I had two days when I was there for 12 years where I had all dispatchers positions filled.

[2:04:56] We have eight dispatchers, but I think we have currently four, and so it doesn't matter whether we have these vacancies or not if we're just unable to eventually fill those positions and those are longstanding numbers that have plagued us in these areas of hiring retention and whatnot.

[2:05:14] And I kind of like to see a more specific breakdown of where those problems actually lie.

[2:05:21] Because I think there is a distinctive separation between positions that we still need to fill but we don't have a necessary problem within our community of, you know, they don't have the ability, the capability or the education in order to fulfill those positions.

[2:05:39] conditions, whereas those that are very specific to a set of educational requirements and

[2:05:46] or professional standards or training standards that we are constantly in the process of trying

[2:05:52] to fill our obligations and our needs on a continuous basis.

[2:05:59] Thank you.

[2:06:01] Do you have a response?

[2:06:03] I was just going to touch on that you touched on such a critical point of recruitment programs

[2:06:07] in general, especially in rural areas like our own, we do have those hard to fill positions that

[2:06:11] either we don't have that talent pool available for us, which is really interesting. You mentioned

[2:06:16] in other counties as well, even in counties that have larger talent pools, they're still struggling

[2:06:19] with certain industries to find candidates. And that's where those programs that come in that

[2:06:23] need to be developed and sustained throughout a long period of time over years is to identify that

[2:06:28] pipeline. I didn't find where those colleges, those individuals candidates are coming out how to

[2:06:31] get them here, how to create opportunities for your own initiatives where you provide opportunities

[2:06:36] for existing employees to grow into those positions.

[2:06:40] And it really is not a one answer.

[2:06:42] It's a combination of all those things,

[2:06:44] combined to be able to fill those vacancies

[2:06:46] and just couple that with the industry across the states.

[2:06:52] There's just not candidates available.

[2:06:54] There's such a high demand.

[2:06:55] So you're really looking at usually a five year program

[2:06:58] where you want to develop those programs

[2:06:59] by position, by industry,

[2:07:01] when those candidates aren't how you build them up.

[2:07:02] One of the largest issues that I know of and we deal with it, every county deals with it was when the state transferred responsibility for mental health programs from the state to the local and they gave us the dollars to do that job.

[2:07:20] However, they gave it to the school districts, they gave it to the counties and they gave it to the tribes.

[2:07:26] and now we're all trying to establish the same program requirements, but we're all competing with each other.

[2:07:33] And it's not just in our county, it's in every single county in the state of California,

[2:07:39] and the professional necessity and need of skilled professionals to deal with mental health just doesn't exist.

[2:07:45] And the demand outstrips the availability and especially in California,

[2:07:50] where the high professionals within the mental health industry are licensed professionals and so the licensing in the state of California is very hard and doesn't recognize licenses from outside the state.

[2:08:06] One of the comments we heard earlier was the time from flying the job to hiring sometimes as long and I noticed I believe in one of the departments.

[2:08:15] it was like 95 days, I believe. How does that compare to last year's time frame? Have we improved

[2:08:22] and do we have like a target number we're shooting for? What are we doing to get there?

[2:08:28] We have a quite a bit of headway as far as reducing that time to hire and when we talk about time

[2:08:35] to hire we say what's that pipeline of recruitment and we talk about posting to a job offer in hire

[2:08:41] which can include a variety of different things considered in which department we're talking about some have an extensive background check.

[2:08:48] Sometimes we have positions that are on hold before they become posted.

[2:08:51] So when what's reported on here specifically is just from we may post it to when that job offer was extended.

[2:08:57] So even though that's our recruitment process from those two points,

[2:09:01] there is still the prior piece where it's when the department is able to approve that requisition to get it posted.

[2:09:07] And then the back end after at the end is also okay now they have to go through those

[2:09:11] potentially extensive background checks and some additional requirements.

[2:09:15] There's going to be many folks that are going to give a resignation notice so it extends

[2:09:18] the total time from when a vacancy becomes available and when a position of somebody's in

[2:09:23] this seat.

[2:09:24] That is longer than that period.

[2:09:25] So when we try to grab those metrics, we're really looking at what period of part of the

[2:09:30] pipeline in each section, which kind of to answer your question overall is we have had an

[2:09:35] improvement. I didn't put the prior numbers on here. I do have the other by last year's presentation.

[2:09:41] And I wouldn't I wouldn't rely on those to be really sure of progress because we've built

[2:09:48] better tracking system over the last year in the current system just to get us by until we were

[2:09:54] going into the new system, which will be implemented next month. And what we're doing with that is we're

[2:09:58] breaking down that pipeline from the very beginning when position becomes vacant to one department

[2:10:03] requests to post it when it's approved when it goes to job posting so we can see each section

[2:10:07] and identify those areas that might have the most need. So it could be, you know, maybe

[2:10:12] you see a vacancy in a department and then by the time someone's actually sitting there,

[2:10:16] it's going to be significantly longer than just the recruitment piece. But now we're going to be

[2:10:20] able to develop that pipeline once again and say, okay, each section takes X amount of time and once

[2:10:26] we build that up over the next couple of years, we'll have much better metrics to relay on.

[2:10:30] Okay. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. I'll open it up for public comment.

[2:10:44] I sit through this presentation every year and what is a matter of curiosity for me is you seem to have a fairly significant vacancy rate which has improved somewhat, but the number of employees always seem to be around just slightly less than 400.

[2:11:06] I was wondering are there any metrics for new positions that have been created over the course of the year and how many they are and how they affect the metrics.

[2:11:20] It seemed like if you create, you know, 5 or 10 or 15 or 20 different new positions that it would skew the metrics somewhat.

[2:11:33] But if you don't take that into account, and I don't see it here in terms of the presentation

[2:11:40] that was made, how many new positions the county created over the past calendar 12 months.

[2:11:47] Because like I say, the metrics would be somewhat skewed if you're talking about more positions

[2:11:55] as opposed to actual employees.

[2:11:59] Thank you.

[2:12:00] I

[2:12:08] was told that I would be given 10 minutes.

[2:12:11] Yeah, you guys get extra time.

[2:12:12] Do you want me to maybe tell public comments done?

[2:12:16] Yeah, we'll bring you a blast about that.

[2:12:17] Perfect. That works for me.

[2:12:25] Hi, it's Alicia. So this is a really important one.

[2:12:28] This one. So the jobs, the applicants, it's not the applicants.

[2:12:32] There's tons of people that need work really, really bad.

[2:12:35] So I believe she said they had gotten 1700 applications.

[2:12:39] I'm not sure if she was doing that in a 12-month period or not.

[2:12:42] but recently, Rumiano, Creamery, they had 1300 applications

[2:12:48] for, I don't remember if it was five or 10 positions,

[2:12:52] I don't know, but they're expanding their operations a bit.

[2:12:54] And they just got so many, I mean, the lower, what we consider

[2:12:57] a lower level, these essential jobs,

[2:13:00] there are so many people needing that that don't,

[2:13:02] they did not invest in college.

[2:13:04] I didn't, when I did my associates,

[2:13:06] I didn't get my vouchers because when I toured the schools,

[2:13:09] it was, they were not smart.

[2:13:11] I'm sorry. I sat in on the professors. Okay, no, I'm not going to pay that kind of money, get in debt and then have a shitty education just to get a degree. A lot of our education system is a pay for play system.

[2:13:24] What you guys need to be focused on is cross-training, in-house training, performance reviews.

[2:13:32] Okay, instead of relying on education, look at experience, do some preliminary testing on essentials, okay, and then have a probationary period, everyone has a probationary period, do performance reviews, you know, scaffold and mentor people have them shadow people, you know, there's things that you guys can be doing in house.

[2:13:51] I know she mentioned that there was some sort of a trying to look which she had said about specialized, she said regional education pipeline for hard to fill positions, but that's very, I don't, there's nothing specific there.

[2:14:05] Don't we, do we have any, I think it used to be called ROTC at the high school? Do we have that in our community?

[2:14:10] There's a lot of things at that level that we could be getting them into a position for a career early.

[2:14:20] It would also help them with their poverty issues at home, which a lot of problems are stemming from poverty,

[2:14:26] with the mental health, with the domestic abuse, with the substance abuse, right.

[2:14:31] I feel like the collaboration with the school interventions at the school at that junior high level,

[2:14:37] because that's where I'm fighting where I hear most of the behavioral problems are

[2:14:40] at press and elk and that age group and that's a good good time to to introduce

[2:14:47] educate education and opportunities on sampling careers seeing what skill sets

[2:14:53] the kids have so I just wanted to know have we had any partnerships with that.

[2:15:00] At the county level, since the county is like a major employer here, and we have so many people needing jobs, you guys need things filled. Obviously, that education thing is a huge barrier. And I don't believe it's a necessary barrier to have.

[2:15:19] Okay, if there's no other public comment. So

[2:15:30] I'm Amy Latvian, your president of Donark County Employees Association, SEIU local 10 to 1 staffing and specifically short staffing is a major concern for our union per HR. We're 24% under staffed with a total of seven.

[2:15:43] and see 73 current vacancies.

[2:15:47] In error, I thought HR would be sending me a breakdown

[2:15:49] of those vacancies so I could speak on specific issues

[2:15:51] for the positions.

[2:15:53] I'm gonna discuss general understaffing

[2:15:55] and vacancies instead.

[2:15:57] Concerns that employees have brought to the union's attention

[2:16:00] that hinder recruitment and retention

[2:16:02] can be broken down into three primary categories,

[2:16:05] pay, benefits, specifically medical, and workload.

[2:16:08] So let's talk about pay.

[2:16:10] First of all, let me say that we appreciate the increases

[2:16:12] as we were able to negotiate in our latest MOU in February.

[2:16:16] That came out for a long delay and costly rate comparison.

[2:16:20] I was not on that negotiation team.

[2:16:22] I want to thank our team again for holding strong on that point.

[2:16:26] It has come to my attention as president of SCIU

[2:16:29] that the comparisons had inaccuracies

[2:16:31] and had to be corrected locally.

[2:16:34] SCIU had to fight for our closest, most comparable neighbor

[2:16:39] and often partner in providing services, Humboldt County, to be included in those comparisons.

[2:16:45] SAIU asked for Comparables to include local state agencies that we knew we were losing employees to, but we're told no.

[2:16:52] While extending the contract to wait for those Comparables, our employees watched as we hem-riched,

[2:16:58] more employees to better paying employers.

[2:17:00] Our entry-level positions are often still underpaid.

[2:17:04] Did you know we don't have an entry-level office assistant position?

[2:17:07] Our entry level is the lead position in Office Assistant 3, which technically requires

[2:17:14] experience.

[2:17:16] When I speak to members of the public about starting a career in Del Nort County,

[2:17:20] they're hesitant to apply because they're afraid they will not get an interview as they

[2:17:24] do not have the required experience.

[2:17:26] They may be right because of the Merritt College R system.

[2:17:30] This also limits advancement in the series as the only direct promotion is an Office Assistant

[2:17:35] supervisor. Now let's talk about benefits, specifically medical insurance. Part of the problem with

[2:17:42] our medical care is out of the control of most employers locally. We lack options. Finding local

[2:17:48] providers can be daunting. Many of our employees have to travel to Grants Pass, Medford, or Eureka

[2:17:53] for basic care. Not only does that add to the cost for the employee, but it requires an entire

[2:18:00] day off to complete an appointment. Don't get me started on if the road closes and they can't get

[2:18:05] back and return on the same day. As for the cost, we pay 5% of our salary to have medical

[2:18:11] insurance. Then we have to pay copay as undiductibles. I'm going to use myself as an example.

[2:18:17] I recently set up primary care at Setter Coast. My initial patient appointment charge was $500.

[2:18:23] Insurance paid $85.50. I'm on the hook for $414.50. $14.50. That's my copay. $400 goes towards

[2:18:34] my deductible. My follow-up visit this weekend, did you know they're open on the weekends?

[2:18:40] I scored and I didn't have to leave, use any of my leave for this appointment.

[2:18:44] That charge is $315. I'm willing to bet my portion is going to be at least 200.

[2:18:51] This will continue until I hit my $4,000 deductible.

[2:18:55] Remember I already pay 5% of paycheck for my medical benefits. This is $155.22 per check,

[2:19:02] 26 checks a year, which totals $4,035.72 a year.

[2:19:09] Unless I get a razor promotion in my salary increases.

[2:19:13] That covers the actual appointments.

[2:19:15] What about prescriptions? Great question.

[2:19:18] The coverageing company or not,

[2:19:20] we are able to get our prescriptions through

[2:19:22] can change year to year.

[2:19:24] Not all of those companies send membership cards.

[2:19:27] So it can be confusing for employees.

[2:19:28] Our exam goes great benefit and only cover certain medications.

[2:19:33] So some of our medications may be male to your home, others you have to get through the

[2:19:37] pharmacy directly, some prescriptions have an extra hoop to jump through.

[2:19:42] Anthem has added digby health along with hinge.

[2:19:45] They sound like great added support for dietitians, physical therapy, etc.

[2:19:50] However, if you and your doctor have made decisions for your medications,

[2:19:54] you may have to work with digby health and hope they agree with your primary care provider.

[2:19:58] Many members of SEIU have been on a set of medications that have had coverage changes

[2:20:03] each of the last two years through the GLP ones.

[2:20:08] When this set of drugs was released, it was reported that they're going to be lifetime

[2:20:11] medications, meaning that if you start them, you'll likely need to be on them for your

[2:20:15] whole life.

[2:20:16] However, with DIGB Health, people started them one year, then the next year they were told

[2:20:20] that their BMI wasn't high enough anymore for them to continue them.

[2:20:25] With help from HR, you could get them through the pharmacy coverage directly if you had

[2:20:29] a list of one of the suitable co-morbidity conditions like sleep apnea.

[2:20:34] Next year, these medications will be covered for diabetics only.

[2:20:38] SCIU is aware that this is mostly an insurance issue across the board for American insurance

[2:20:43] companies.

[2:20:45] It's still something several employees have come to me about after the information about

[2:20:49] the 2027 coverage was sent to them last month.

[2:20:52] Even though it may not be fully in Delanoort County's control, this does factor into employee's

[2:20:56] decisions to stay or leave county employment.

[2:20:59] Now let's talk about workloads.

[2:21:02] Let's start with the location that's one of the hardest to retain employees and one of

[2:21:05] our smallest locations.

[2:21:07] This means that each and every vacancy has felt much more deeply animal control.

[2:21:12] We've had administrative secretaries and animal control officers doing kennel attendant duties,

[2:21:17] which requires, which I'm sorry, which reduces the time that they are able to focus on their other duties.

[2:21:24] This includes animal control officers being able to write tickets, which would generate income for a general fund.

[2:21:30] As president of SEIU, it has come to my attention that kennel assistance starting pay is less than fast food minimum wage.

[2:21:36] If we then deduct the 5% for insurance and the cows retirement payment, take home is even less.

[2:21:44] Then we have to look at the working conditions and duties.

[2:21:46] Kennel attendance duties include mucking out kennels and handling dogs and other random

[2:21:52] animals as needed to include all nature farm animals.

[2:21:57] Did I mention that the 30 as of my visit a few weeks ago dogs are all housed in outdoor

[2:22:03] kennels?

[2:22:04] Let's add in that we weren't able to get foul weather gear here as we were for other positions.

[2:22:11] I've seen the shared windbreakers the location was given to do kennel duties in the range

[2:22:15] that we're so famous for here.

[2:22:17] Note I did not mention rain pants or boots.

[2:22:20] These employees are outside in all weather

[2:22:22] without actual rain gear.

[2:22:25] Since we're on uniforms,

[2:22:26] let's talk about the weight these employees are enduring

[2:22:29] to get the three pairs of pants a year we allow them.

[2:22:32] It's been reported that employees are waiting weeks

[2:22:34] for the vendor to release gear to them

[2:22:36] on a purchase order.

[2:22:38] The current employees and animal control love their jobs.

[2:22:41] They're very dedicated and they would like to be able

[2:22:44] to do the work they were hired to do. They need help to get that work done.

[2:22:49] Now let's switch to the largest department, DHHS. As President of SEIU, it has come to my attention

[2:22:54] that while waiting for the current contract, Delnaur County lost several great career employees

[2:23:00] to other agencies. This caused workload for employees who work with our most in-need community

[2:23:05] members to skyrocket. This delays services to our community members, your constituents.

[2:23:12] I have been told that many of the employees that left reported already high caseloads as

[2:23:18] one of the reasons that they decided to leave.

[2:23:21] SCIU, I'm sorry, employees continue to leave, and again, as President of SCIU, I have been

[2:23:27] told that they are reporting high caseloads versus the pay rate that they are receiving now

[2:23:32] as their main reason for leaving.

[2:23:35] Downward County used to be the most desired location for career long employment.

[2:23:41] As we can see by the number of employees who are looking at retirement in the next

[2:23:44] few years.

[2:23:45] Employees who have not hit longevity or calpers years of service, remember the current

[2:23:51] is 2% at 62.

[2:23:53] So the draw to stay isn't hitting as early as it used to, are choosing not to stay.

[2:23:59] How do we fix it?

[2:24:00] We have some ideas for you.

[2:24:02] I leave the merit HR system.

[2:24:05] Kelly, HR system.

[2:24:07] Employees and the public have told me personally

[2:24:09] that they're being rejected at application

[2:24:11] for not meeting requirements.

[2:24:14] For positions they clearly have the qualifications for,

[2:24:17] or merit revised job descriptions and move the goalpost.

[2:24:20] An employee whose Delnaught County Employment experience

[2:24:23] netted them an interview for a new position last year,

[2:24:27] found that when they applied again for the same position,

[2:24:29] they no longer qualify for merit. Had Delnar County changed the duties for that position? No.

[2:24:36] Other counties had so the global job description and minimum requirements had changed.

[2:24:42] Merit uses a computer program to screen applications which looks at job titles and matches for key phrases.

[2:24:49] How many potential employees are we missing out on? I would like to come back to this if I can be given a

[2:24:55] little bit extra time because I have a personal experience.

[2:24:59] The second idea is temporary or long-term help using employment programs.

[2:25:04] We have community partners with people ready to volunteer, intern, etc.

[2:25:08] We have programs that the county could use themselves that help people get work experience.

[2:25:13] We proudly participate in E3 every year.

[2:25:16] Maybe we could extend that same welcoming attitude to other programs.

[2:25:20] The third one is morale, so returning, sorry, returning Delnaught County's reputation

[2:25:28] as the best employer in town.

[2:25:30] Since I started here in 2022, I have heard tales of great benefits that didn't cost funds,

[2:25:36] but created community within the workplace and boosted morale.

[2:25:40] The old-timers like to reminisce of the good old days.

[2:25:44] The event we have this summer was well-received and I heard employees felt appreciated.

[2:25:48] it mattered. Thank you. Delnaught County Employees Association SEIU local 10-1 would love to continue

[2:25:56] this conversation. We are acutely affected by the need to recruit and retain quality employees

[2:26:01] who share dedication to our blood community. Can I have an extra minute?

[2:26:08] I came here from a different county. It was not a merit-based county. I was hired at a

[2:26:16] a regular level, a level two employee, and no problem.

[2:26:22] When I went three months later to apply for the lead position,

[2:26:25] I was told they didn't have the experience.

[2:26:27] I had to fight with Mary to be given the opportunity.

[2:26:31] I had nine years of experience and was told that I did not.

[2:26:35] I had three months.

[2:26:36] I had to provide printed job descriptions for my prior county.

[2:26:42] my descriptions in my resume that I had sent off matched, but I had to not only fight with the

[2:26:49] worker who was reviewing my application, I then had to file an appeal and fight with their

[2:26:55] supervisor to be given that opportunity. When I applied to be, so I did get the lead position,

[2:27:02] and then I applied for a supervisor position. I had to go through the exact same process.

[2:27:07] this time I knew I was in for a fight, therefore I was prepared, and I had all

[2:27:12] that stuff ready to go. As soon as they sent me the denial email, I forwarded all

[2:27:16] the stuff from before and said, look, you guys did this to me before. Remember,

[2:27:20] here we go. It was the same employee. I then applied for a totally different

[2:27:25] position. I was again told I didn't meet the initial qualifications. I had to

[2:27:29] recent all that data again. If we're doing not to current employees, how many people in

[2:27:35] the public and other counties are we missing out on because merit is rejecting them before

[2:27:41] they even get to HR. So HR doesn't have any ability to look at that. It's merit rejecting

[2:27:47] them. So we can't even locally deal with that. Thank you.

[2:27:52] Thank you. Okay. I will close public comment.

[2:28:00] It's part of the right as a union.

[2:28:06] It's part

[2:28:06] on this item. Yeah she's the union president so she gets extra time. Okay so public comments

[2:28:13] closed. Care is there anything you can address out of public comments maybe Sam straights comments

[2:28:19] about the metrics anything along those lines.

[2:28:28] I didn't make any specific notes on all the comments

[2:28:30] but I do recognize and just want to mention that a lot of items that we had identified internally

[2:28:36] and from presentations and information aligns significantly in our initiatives moving forward

[2:28:40] And we're really creating that foundation to be able to create programs that align directly with what was discussed.

[2:28:46] So I'm actually really looking forward to, I made a note to ask for a list of some of the items that you provided.

[2:28:51] So we can really work on collaborating those efforts and I do just want to mention that that is the goal.

[2:28:56] The goal is to figure out how can we get candidates into the county, how we get those positions filled, how do we support our current employees, and how do we retain them.

[2:29:04] And a lot of the concerns and barriers that we have with the recruitment process, especially merit.

[2:29:10] We, we mirror those exactly and there are other internal discussions on how to remedy those moving forward.

[2:29:17] Great. Thank you. I need to ask you a short.

[2:29:20] Carried. Are we currently trying to get out from under merit?

[2:29:24] LHR? You need board direction to put staff effort that or can you answer that at the moment?

[2:29:30] What? It just seems like a problem that we need to get rid of.

[2:29:34] So I was just wondering if we can help you in that or if there's effort going on.

[2:29:38] Thank you for that. There will be more to come on that very soon when speaking into the new system to ensure that we're compliant with the requirements to be internal.

[2:29:50] Okay. There's nothing else. Okay. That will end our public hearing number 19.

[2:29:58] you

[2:30:00] We'll move down to number 20, general government items. Number 20 is confirm the California Department of Fish and Wildlife Owned Properties identified by the Board of Supervisors for potential, future county ownership and authorize the chair of the Board of Supervisors to transmit a letter to CDFW, executive leadership, expressing the county's interest in discussing fee title, transfer of the identified properties and where appropriate interim right of entry agreement as requested by the director of community.

[2:30:29] development. Good afternoon board members. Thank you. I'll need to be here today. I prepared a

[2:30:38] board report which puts together the request as to why the board may be interested in pursuing

[2:30:44] these lands as they do. I'm available from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife,

[2:30:49] and I'm available to answer any questions that you may have.

[2:30:54] If I may, I think just add a little bit more color to the report and interest by the board.

[2:31:01] I know this state of California specifically the California Department of Fish and Wildlife

[2:31:06] owns approximately 1.3 million acres even though the other state contracts seem to point

[2:31:12] towards 1.1 million acres, but the state most recently has continued to voice transfer

[2:31:20] language of those lands to potentially even Native American tribes in our

[2:31:29] area and the concerns associated with some of these transfers for public

[2:31:34] access are critically important to those traveling here to Donar County to

[2:31:39] utilize those resources. So in essence a lot of the basis associated with this letter

[2:31:45] here is preemptively trying to get the state to take note of their laws that are dictated

[2:31:53] by the General Code of Government 11-011, which has to do with surplus lands within the

[2:32:02] state of California and more specifically to oblige by that language to identify them

[2:32:07] as surplus before any transfers are to occur. I know that the county has taken some very

[2:32:13] strong positions with assembly bills this year associated with some of those transfers.

[2:32:18] But in essence, this letter expresses our interest in those lands if the state is going

[2:32:25] to consider transferring them under surplus length.

[2:32:27] So, appreciate that.

[2:32:29] We'll see.

[2:32:31] Any public comment on this item.

[2:32:35] Okay.

[2:32:42] Okay.

[2:32:43] So, hi, it's Lisa again.

[2:32:44] So, Lake Earl's been discussed for a long time with different suggestions for management

[2:32:50] that hasn't occurred and there's really no clear I mean at least from what I

[2:32:56] can see and what I've heard from people involved there's really no clear

[2:32:59] reasoning of where is the gap between our needs here at the county and the state

[2:33:06] level authorized people to do the management and why is this collaboration not

[2:33:12] occurring and then there's data here from 2022 there was a petition that Randall

[2:33:19] south had had authored and it had all kinds of very specific stuff in it and it was I have a copy of

[2:33:25] it if you want it and I can send it to you but it was talking about how to pump out the salt water

[2:33:32] that has been inundating the lake and how that would solve the problem and it goes into very much

[2:33:39] I mean like this people put a lot of work into this and then there's Jeff I think it's Jeff Reed

[2:33:45] I know he's the waterfeller. He likes duck hunting, you know, and stuff. And so there's controversy there

[2:33:50] But they are also advocating for those species. So it's like a good thing, you know, but there's some controversy with them

[2:33:55] I guess apparently they weren't always taking their kill with them and they were just leaving them and people had a problem with that

[2:34:01] So there's controversy there, but they were as far as I know on the same page as far as the breaching not being done right

[2:34:09] So this is kind of a different item. You're talking about the man's been on the water

[2:34:12] But the point, just so you know what we're talking about.

[2:34:15] The point that I'm making is you guys are advocating

[2:34:18] to have management responsibility on lands

[2:34:22] that you've had opportunity through the Fish and Game

[2:34:24] advisor, oh that was the other thing,

[2:34:26] the Fish and Game Advisory has a draft management plan

[2:34:30] that doesn't even say who's authored it.

[2:34:32] I don't believe it was Jeff Reed.

[2:34:36] And it's like they're just sitting on it.

[2:34:38] And then we've got the Resource Conservation District

[2:34:41] or since 2005, they haven't done anything about it.

[2:34:45] This victimization mindset

[2:34:47] that our local county government has needs to stop.

[2:34:52] You guys are responsible for collaborating

[2:34:53] with upper government.

[2:34:54] If they're not responding to you,

[2:34:56] you need to raise it up the hierarchy chain

[2:34:58] to whoever you need to knock on whoever's door

[2:35:00] so that we can address these things.

[2:35:03] We have so much failure in our public lands management

[2:35:07] and that is not something where you finger point to the state.

[2:35:10] Okay? We have a lot of assets in this county. We're not utilizing them. Okay? Period. We have a really bad

[2:35:18] lack of leadership. We have bad collaboration relationships with tribes. The tribes have this knowledge.

[2:35:25] They have a lot of resources that they get that we don't have access to. If we had better working relationships with the tribes,

[2:35:32] we would be way far ahead on this. So that's a failure of leadership.

[2:35:37] The people get along, I mean, for the most part, they can talk to each other, they want

[2:35:43] it.

[2:35:43] Everyone that I talk to, that is in the right mind, wants these things addressed.

[2:35:49] We are supposed to preserve these things for the future, and we have not been managing

[2:35:54] anything really at all that we are the ones who are here on the ground.

[2:36:01] There's Cal Fire, there's all these other resources.

[2:36:02] We're supposed to have collaboration. Who's supposed to do that? The elected officials, the people we pay to do that job and these different boards, and they're failing.

[2:36:13] Thank you.

[2:36:15] Know the public comment? Closet?

[2:36:21] Were you coming down for item

[2:36:27] number 20?

[2:36:28] Yeah. Or is that for the lake girl?

[2:36:30] So

[2:36:33] we're not talking about land management. We're not talking about water quality. We're not talking about lake levels. We're not talking about any of that here.

[2:36:39] Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, but trading the counties yeah position of some of the fishing wildlife land. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. My name is Ethan St. Clair. I'm a tall about tribal member.

[2:36:51] And here to speak on item 20.

[2:36:54] This land transfer is an attempt by the county to grab control of state lands and block them from ever being rightfully returned to the tall about people.

[2:37:02] and I want these points answered, non-record.

[2:37:08] The desecration rebuilding, the Pebble Beach staircase,

[2:37:11] boat launch means heavy digging.

[2:37:14] This entire area sits on Sacred Talawa Village

[2:37:17] in burial sites.

[2:37:19] Will you commit to full assembly bill 52 tribal consultation

[2:37:24] before a single shovel touches the door?

[2:37:28] Or do you plan to dig up our ancestors first

[2:37:31] and as permission later and then the grazing you want to lock in long-term

[2:37:37] cattle grazing leases over grazing destroys our native medicinal plants and

[2:37:42] poisons lake url and toxic runoff what legally binding environmental

[2:37:47] protections are you putting in place to stop these commercial leases from

[2:37:52] destroying the land will this board amend the motion to give the talawa nation equal

[2:38:00] co-management and absolute veto power over any future leasing or development on these

[2:38:07] part cells.

[2:38:12] And yeah, I think I did.

[2:38:19] Okay, no other comments?

[2:38:21] Post-pull comment, bring it back to the board for the discussions.

[2:38:26] Again, the reason why this has come forward is because we have unfortunately been left out

[2:38:33] the loop when it comes to these lands. There have been moves by other agencies to gain access

[2:38:40] and to gain control over these lands. And this letter basically just says that in their consideration,

[2:38:47] the state's fish and wildlife in their consideration as to what to do with these lands that we are coming

[2:38:53] to the table saying we want to be in those discussions and be part of that discussion before you end

[2:39:00] that transfer in these lands to a third party.

[2:39:03] Thank you.

[2:39:05] Okay.

[2:39:06] And I just want to add that we were approached by CDFW

[2:39:09] and asked, we were asked to compile this list.

[2:39:13] And so that's what we're doing.

[2:39:15] We're compiling a list saying these are the lands

[2:39:18] that we would be interested.

[2:39:20] Should you surplus them?

[2:39:21] So this isn't something that we just created.

[2:39:24] We were approached in a meeting by CDFW

[2:39:26] to make this request.

[2:39:44] We have a motion to confirm should we confirm the properties identified as well in that motion. He read it into the record very much confirms it want to make sure we were good.

[2:39:56] Okay, highly. Supervisor Sparky. Yes. Supervisor Short. Yes. Supervisor Wilson. Yes. Supervisor Howard. Yes. Chairboard. Yes.

[2:40:08] Legislative and budget issues. Item number 21, and I will just reiterate that the NACA has pulled the request. So this will be just a request from Saint George Reef Lighthouse.

[2:40:23] It is to consider the attached outside agency annual funding requests from the St. George

[2:40:31] Reef Lighthouse Reservation Society as requested by the SGLLPS and number two contingent

[2:40:42] on board approval.

[2:40:43] If you have direction to the county administrative officer and the auditor controller to revise

[2:40:46] the fiscal year 2026, 2027 final recommended budget as applicable.

[2:40:54] I just heard two times now from the Lighthouse Preservation Society with regard to this request.

[2:41:02] So I'm sure that the board is well aware of why we want to have this request.

[2:41:07] But I just want to reiterate, sitting on the Visitor Bureau board, one of the things that

[2:41:13] we're constantly looking for is experiences here in Delanor County that we can advertise

[2:41:19] to people across the nation and across the world about what to bring here.

[2:41:24] And we have a lot of natural resources.

[2:41:26] We have our redwoods. We have the ocean.

[2:41:28] We have the cleanest river in the United States.

[2:41:32] But we also need to start thinking about what attractions that we can do to highlight that.

[2:41:37] Lighthouses are something that people all across the world really want to gravitate towards.

[2:41:42] They really want to see.

[2:41:44] And this is a lighthouse that we could do that.

[2:41:46] And the preservation society is asking for this money to be able to relocate the helicopters here to three times a year to be able to provide those tours.

[2:41:59] They haven't been able to do the tours in the last few years with the exception of this last spring because of that cost.

[2:42:06] So, this is just to kind of pump a little bit of money into this, to actually then add to how we can get that return on investment here in Donark County.

[2:42:16] One more major experience that we can do that will bring people here, then to stay in our hotels, eat at our restaurants, and spend money in our community.

[2:42:26] So, I believe it's a very small amount of money to be requesting and I am asking the board to support their request.

[2:42:35] This is just a one time, it's not annual.

[2:42:37] It is annual, the way it is worded is an annual thing.

[2:42:42] We could do, we could make it to where it is a one time thing with the caveat that next

[2:42:49] year they come forward prior to us determining our budget and provide us more documentation

[2:42:55] and more verification on if this was successful or not.

[2:43:00] I certainly think that's a fair compromise if the board is willing to consider this $20,000.

[2:43:09] By short, I was just going to say that if it is an expensive venture to take them on,

[2:43:17] I believe we would be attracting a group of people that would have the ability to spend

[2:43:24] some money in our county and I think this would be a good investment in our county.

[2:43:31] Similar to your report out this morning about the film commission, we invested in that and it pays off.

[2:43:42] So I agree that this should be something we should seriously consider.

[2:43:47] And if we desire to discuss whether it's a one time or an ongoing, I would love to have that conversation as well.

[2:43:56] But this seems like it would be a good investment in our county.

[2:44:00] I do appreciate the kind of the compromise idea because then every time Mr. Zimmerman comes

[2:44:06] back, I like how he shows us what the money did, what it went to, kind of our return

[2:44:10] our investment.

[2:44:11] And I know he's mentioned in the hopes that once they're established, you know, they'd

[2:44:15] be just an ongoing, you know, they wouldn't need help anymore.

[2:44:18] So I do like the idea of the compromise that way we guarantee you come back for next year.

[2:44:23] But yeah, that would be...

[2:44:25] I'm prepared to make a motion of that if you would like for that to happen.

[2:44:29] Let's hear some public comment.

[2:44:30] Okay.

[2:44:30] If you don't mind waiting.

[2:44:32] Public comment?

[2:44:44] Usually when you're talking about helicopter trips out to lighthouse as you're talking about people that have some money to spend in the first place.

[2:44:51] And so why does the public have to support that kind of an activity that would be the question I would have initially when.

[2:45:00] Pretty clearly these people can afford to do that in their own right if there's that offer.

[2:45:07] I'm getting the impression that it's not necessarily that that initially is the problem. It's getting the helicopter to come for a brief period of time in the first place. And if that cost can't be incorporated into the cost of using the helicopter to go out to or the lighthouse.

[2:45:30] then I don't know how it can ever become a profitable venture. So I mean there are a lot of things that you

[2:45:40] haven't even bothered to consider with respect to you know what kind of interest there has from the public

[2:45:47] in going out to the lighthouse on a helicopter whether it's an ongoing thing whether it'll last for more than a year or two

[2:45:55] whether it'll actually produce the kinds of benefits to the community that you're talking about in terms of

[2:46:02] hotels and restaurants and money spent here. I mean it seems like this is more of a private

[2:46:08] enterprise type of operation rather than a government funded operation even though you're only

[2:46:15] funding it in a token amount. It just doesn't play very well for the benefit of the

[2:46:24] in all pervasive sense, it seems like it's very specific and very developed around a very tiny

[2:46:37] percentage of the overall population here. Not many people locally are going to be afford to go

[2:46:44] on a helicopter ride out at the at the lighthouse and for that from that standpoint, it would seem

[2:46:51] like those that can afford ought to be paying their their their full share. They ought to be paying

[2:46:59] their way instead of depending on the public to help finance their little extravagant eventually

[2:47:06] lighthouse. Thank you.

[2:47:13] Good afternoon board members. My name is Liz Zabo and my husband and I retired

[2:47:18] and moved here almost three years ago for the abundance of outdoor activities. After seeing the

[2:47:23] lighthouse for the first time, I immediately became a member of the Museum Historical Society.

[2:47:29] On my first visit to the museum, I was pleasantly surprised to see the first order Fresnel

[2:47:33] lens from the lighthouse prominently displayed. I frequently visit the museum just to see this

[2:47:40] focal point and fascinating piece of history. My good fortune this last January was to be able to become

[2:47:46] a volunteer with the lighthouse preservation society. Aside from being impressed by the good work that

[2:47:53] they do, I was also on a mission to learn all I could about this local treasure. I enjoyed

[2:47:59] reading The Sentinel of the Seas by Dennis Powers. It was a spellbinding account of the history

[2:48:04] of the St. George Light. The lighthouse is not only a local treasure and need of preservation

[2:48:11] but it is of huge interest to tourists as well as a beacon for local mariners. This is why it

[2:48:18] be preserved for our local community and for future generations. Local history is what makes this

[2:48:24] county unique. The lighthouse is a picturesque part of our area. Every chance I get to see it

[2:48:31] it further intrigues me with its historical significance. To learn more I encourage everyone to visit

[2:48:38] the museum or the library for further information or contact the lighthouse preservation society

[2:48:44] which is lucky to have many local experts.

[2:48:48] Thank you for acknowledging our preservation efforts as we are a focused and dedicated team of individuals.

[2:48:54] Thank you.

[2:49:03] Board, I'm Mike.

[2:49:05] I'm here not as a school board member or as the chair of the Republican Party.

[2:49:09] I'm here as an individual to go ahead and I appreciate that you want to approve this request.

[2:49:15] I think it's needed for a couple of reasons.

[2:49:17] One, we actually, we bought a ticket for the helicopter ride for my daughter.

[2:49:24] She went out there, she was able to take pictures, she loved it, and the reason she loved

[2:49:29] it so much is because it is history.

[2:49:32] We love history.

[2:49:33] We go all over the nation to visit historical places.

[2:49:36] Every time we have guests here from out of town, we point that out to them.

[2:49:42] With this type of a grant to help them, to facilitate this, more people when they come

[2:49:48] there will be more prepared to actually take these trips with it.

[2:49:53] The thing that this also helps do is you know when fundraising and in grant writing, the

[2:49:59] more grants you get, the more likely you're able to go ahead and get additional grants.

[2:50:03] And this is part of that step to do it.

[2:50:07] I think it's a necessary thing for our community.

[2:50:11] I'm planning on buying more tickets, and as long as we know that helicopter is here and

[2:50:17] can go out and take some of our friends out there, they will do the same thing.

[2:50:21] But if it can't be guaranteed, if there's no way to do that, a lot of people when they

[2:50:26] just come here, they're going to be looking at the trees, they're going to be looking at

[2:50:28] going out to the beach, they're going to be doing those type of things, and they won't

[2:50:33] talk about.

[2:50:33] Now, they won't be able to know they can fly out there.

[2:50:37] Every time we have visitors, we go to the museum because it is so full of the history of this area.

[2:50:45] So I just want to go ahead and ask you to support this effort.

[2:50:50] I think it's an essential effort to go ahead and let the historic society go another step forward,

[2:50:56] because I know they have plans to do other grants.

[2:50:59] And I know there are people that, you know, that I know that are willing to look at those grants and this is a major step if we get a local grant, it shows those on the federal level that they really want it, they'll take care of it, they'll do the things that are necessary.

[2:51:14] Thank you, I appreciate your support.

[2:51:24] Good afternoon, my name is Brent Russell.

[2:51:25] First, I'd like to thank you all for your public service and the sacrifice that requires

[2:51:29] a view.

[2:51:30] While I'm not a resident of Del Norte County, my family and I and many friends of ours

[2:51:36] enjoy visiting Crescent City area at least annually.

[2:51:39] Our visits here and that of many other families and individuals help support the local economy

[2:51:44] and jobs in the area.

[2:51:46] I am thankful for the city and county's response in resolving issues no matter how small,

[2:51:50] making Del Norte County or Del Norte County feel like a safe and fun and family-friendly destination.

[2:51:57] In all this, your county holds a lot of historical value and many of your historical places paint

[2:52:03] a picture that keeps bringing me and others back. I have spoken with many people who visit here just

[2:52:08] for that reason. In all, the St. George Reef Lighthouse is one of these special places and I and others

[2:52:16] have been others I have spoken to have made special visits to your county just to or this

[2:52:21] amazing and breathtaking piece of history. The further plans for education are also an exciting

[2:52:25] addition. I would like for this historical place to be preserved as part of the allure of your county.

[2:52:31] Please consider approving this support request by the St. George Reflight House Preservation Society.

[2:52:37] I can personally attest that my own visits have supported the county in the ways that they have

[2:52:42] mentioned on the application. Thank you.

[2:52:53] Hi. So we were just talking about how we don't have money.

[2:52:57] So it's not about history, it's not about that's not really the question it's where do you get

[2:53:01] the money to do the preservation. So I believe that they have tons of opportunity to do fun raising.

[2:53:06] It's what $20,000 ask. That can be done. I mean, they can partner with the Chamber of Commerce,

[2:53:12] the harbor, the school district, the museum itself. They could be promoting more membership

[2:53:18] it in that society to preserve the lighthouse, they could be promoting more membership in

[2:53:24] the museum so that people can pay for the museum, they could have special fees or something,

[2:53:30] they could do a promotion at the museum, they could do like a whole week of like promoting

[2:53:34] it or something through our existing channels without paying extra money.

[2:53:38] I mean, this is something they should be able to do without asking for the county to allocate

[2:53:43] money from the budget.

[2:53:44] That's all I have to say.

[2:53:45] And it's not about we don't appreciate the history. We all appreciate the history. There's a lot of value there

[2:53:50] But $20,000 should be coming from the people because remember government is paid by taxpayers

[2:53:55] There's not a lot of taxpayers here. I'm one of them because I have a house. I'm not a landlord. I don't own tons and tons of stuff

[2:54:02] I get highly taxed

[2:54:04] Okay, so there's very few people paying and I know we have TOT tax

[2:54:08] But this is something that should already be promoted through all the chamber stuff that they do

[2:54:12] I mean, that's what the chamber does. They have all kinds of publications and things where they're promoting our area. So I don't understand and they're not here. So I can't ask them, but this can be done.

[2:54:23] Other ways easily is the point and I don't think that we need to be earmarking money for this.

[2:54:39] My name is Marla Benson.

[2:54:41] I'm the Chief Financial Officer for the Preservation Society, and I want to read a letter

[2:54:48] from our Vice President, Richard Hoff, he was not able to attend today.

[2:54:54] So to the Honourable Members of the Board of Supervisors of Del Norte County, St. George

[2:55:00] Reef Lighthouse is an amazing historic landmark.

[2:55:03] It stands as a historical sentinel for not only to passing boats and ships, but also to

[2:55:09] the populations of Del Norte and Curry counties. When my wife and

[2:55:16] I, when my wife and I first moved here

[2:55:22] in 2022, I saw the structure out off the coast and I was in awe. That was the day that I knew that

[2:55:29] I wanted to be involved in the preservation of this amazing building. The preservation society is

[2:55:36] asking for $20,000 a year in order to help fund helicopter tours, but also to continue to raise

[2:55:43] awareness of this magnificent building. During our presentation in July to this very board,

[2:55:49] I shared with the board a bit of a lighthouse history and what the preservation side is trying

[2:55:55] to accomplish, helicopter services are not cheap. Creating awareness is not cheap. As we continue our

[2:56:02] outreach and continue to work with grant writing. We will see great changes in our financial status

[2:56:08] and ability to move forward. The most important aspect of St. George replied House is its historical

[2:56:16] value. This building can never be replaced. As a community, we have the responsibility to preserve

[2:56:22] this building for future generations. We cannot let it deteriorate further. We must show our community

[2:56:29] that our history matters and make this memorial of the past

[2:56:33] monument of the future and velvet to all who wish to see it.

[2:56:37] This is not an easy task, but this is a new beginning

[2:56:40] and with the support of the Delant County Board of Supervisors

[2:56:43] we can and will take the step to future the St. George Reef Lighthouse.

[2:56:48] Please stand with us and vote in favor of this funding request

[2:56:51] and support this important and historical beacon

[2:56:54] Thank you.

[2:57:06] Good afternoon.

[2:57:08] I've sat where Mr. Howard is sitting now.

[2:57:12] Although, if you don't know,

[2:57:14] it has been an interesting discussion on the lighthouse,

[2:57:16] but I want you to look at your seal.

[2:57:20] And what happens to be there?

[2:57:22] It is a bit out of scale,

[2:57:23] and it's not really where it is.

[2:57:26] It is six and a half miles off shore.

[2:57:29] It's something for me personally,

[2:57:31] is the other image there with the Pactrain. I was part of trying to rebuild the original

[2:57:38] Kelsey trail that helped put this county on the map. It was finished in 1855. That connected

[2:57:45] this directly inland with the gold on the climate river and beyond, and it made this port incredibly

[2:57:54] busy and which preceded the lighthouse, of course. One thing that is missing here, I've

[2:58:01] been the head wiki or the lightkeeper out there seems like a thousand years, but it's been since

[2:58:09] before 2016. We have been trying to keep that light on. It is difficult. Yes, we want tourists out

[2:58:17] there and want that. In this day and age and right now, we need light. And to me, that's

[2:58:25] what that represents. It's us. I look at that lighthouse and I see this county. I see the

[2:58:31] struggles we go through. I see our remoteness of difficult it is just to get up in the morning,

[2:58:40] keep things going here. This is a small investment. One of the things we're missing is our local

[2:58:46] fishing fleet they use that light to line their pots up to know where they are out there when it's

[2:58:52] midnight and pitch black that's the light comes on it shows them where they are so I don't

[2:59:01] really can't add anything other than as a citizen this is what we should be doing is accounting this

[2:59:09] will benefit all of us I would love to say that everybody can say yes to that there are always

[2:59:16] can be people that say no, but I would tell you that the vast majority of people in this

[2:59:22] community and in this room will say yes to this. Thank you.

[2:59:37] Chair Borge's and other supervisors. My name is Christine and I'm here to say that I think

[2:59:43] the lighthouse really needs some help. I was very fortunate this year to go out there. So

[2:59:49] So the feeling that you get out there, you can't put a price on, you just can't, and

[2:59:57] I think it is our responsibility.

[3:00:00] This is part of the historical registry for the United States. This is not a small thing. And when we invest in something, it shows others that we care. We have to show we care first before others can jump on board with us. And I agree with everything that's been said today. You guys are amazing. You've talked about recovery. You've talked about suicide. And now we can talk about something.

[3:00:30] I mean, it's just a little bit lighter, but really meaningful.

[3:00:35] It's meaningful for me because I've only lived here 12 years

[3:00:39] and that part of the ocean holds me.

[3:00:43] It always has and it always will.

[3:00:45] And I know people that visit here,

[3:00:48] it's the first thing I want to talk about.

[3:00:49] The oceans, the redwoods, they speak for themselves.

[3:00:53] They don't need help.

[3:00:54] People are drawn to them.

[3:00:56] I want people to be drawn to the lighthouse.

[3:00:58] us. I'm passionate about it. It's such a wonderful thing that we have that I

[3:01:05] think we're neglecting. We don't want to neglect that. That's part of us. And I

[3:01:10] say us, even though I wasn't born and raised here, I feel it's part of me. So

[3:01:16] thank you.

[3:01:29] Good afternoon. I'm Jacques Keppner. I'm a syndicated radio

[3:01:36] of Broadcaster, the Doc and Jacques show, broadcast up and down the, the, uh,

[3:01:42] coast. And one of our favorite guests is none other than John Zimmerman, who's been on

[3:01:47] many times and who has spawned a new radio show, which will be coming to your radio waves

[3:01:53] here in the future and will be syndicated internationally,

[3:01:57] called the Lighthouse Radio. And he and I are going to be talking about the mystique and the wonder and

[3:02:02] the beauty of lighthouses around the world and it's going to bring attention and it's

[3:02:09] always going to start off with one mention of what Del Norte's own lighthouse. Clark,

[3:02:15] you stole the thunder from me. I was going to say right above us, we have two towers. We

[3:02:19] have the Redwoods. We have Hyperion, which is the largest tree of the world. We have this

[3:02:24] amazing lighthouse, which all of us have to cherish and know that it's not going to be

[3:02:30] be staying here forever unless it is taken care of. I think you should invest in the

[3:02:36] psychonic lighthouse. This incredible historical piece to make it part of

[3:02:43] Del Norte own it. Why not? Look what you have outside the chamber doors to go

[3:02:48] and get bridged. Gee is that associated with San Francisco or not? I'm a San Francisco

[3:02:53] it is. San Francisco it is truly. So make that lighthouse part of this

[3:03:00] incredible Del Nort County. Make it a part of the soul of everyone and let's

[3:03:07] just not talk about helicopter costs. Both tours can be soon given out there

[3:03:14] which would afford many more people. I could see children in the future going

[3:03:18] out in groups of 10 and 20 to go out and circle that beautiful iconic historical

[3:03:24] landmark. So bring that shining beacon. Let it shine. Let it shine fully. Again,

[3:03:31] thanks for what you all have done to our Del Nords Lighthouse. I can't thank you

[3:03:38] enough. Let's own it. Let's own it. And with that, I leave you with three words.

[3:03:44] We could invest in it. We could support it. And then guess what? We will reap the

[3:03:51] rewards of a great lighthouse.

[3:03:54] Thank you so much.

[3:04:05] Just can't get rid of me, can ya?

[3:04:08] This year marks the 40th anniversary

[3:04:11] of the establishment of St. George

[3:04:12] Review Flight House, Preservation Society.

[3:04:15] From its founding in 1986, it took 10 years

[3:04:18] to establish governmental authorization

[3:04:20] to access the lighthouse,

[3:04:22] going through the General Service Administration,

[3:04:25] Department of Interior,

[3:04:27] Department of Fish and Game,

[3:04:28] the National Park Service,

[3:04:29] and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

[3:04:33] The following ten years, our organization worked to meet government requirements by conducting

[3:04:38] bird studies to satisfy the Department of Fish and Game and later convincing the Federal

[3:04:44] Aviation Administration that our helicopter landing area met Federal safety guidelines.

[3:04:51] During this time our volunteers achieved historic status, historical status for the lighthouse,

[3:04:57] We moved debris from the site, fabricated railings,

[3:05:00] duplicated from original drawings.

[3:05:02] We built the land and room and we let the beacon.

[3:05:05] At the time, several docent led tours were conducted.

[3:05:09] Bringing out several hundred tourists over a period

[3:05:11] between 1996 and 2018, even though the lighthouse

[3:05:14] wasn't the cesspool 12 of those years due to environmental

[3:05:19] and safety reviews by the FAA and fishing gang.

[3:05:23] We had just resumed getting things going again

[3:05:25] and when NOAA required a new renewal of their authorization for access, which took two

[3:05:30] more years to achieve. So, and after this was done, our society's founder, Guy Tauri,

[3:05:35] passed away, then COVID stopped everything. Now, you might wonder why I'm going through

[3:05:40] this narrative regarding our past challenges. It illustrates two things. First of all, it demonstrates

[3:05:47] our total commitment to the project no matter the difficulties. Secondly, the continued interest

[3:05:52] in our project across the country ensures its staying power as a tourist draw and its historical

[3:05:58] significance. Even after lengthy times, access was impossible, the our lighthouse tours remain

[3:06:05] very properly when available. This has been demonstrated by our fairing close to 400 people out to the

[3:06:12] lighthouse these last three years. We have recently done several things to take the organization to

[3:06:18] the next level. Number one, we have an improved presence with social media, webpages, email

[3:06:23] blasts, and newsletters. Number two, our board is working on several grant and social

[3:06:27] media fundraising methods to raise awareness and revenue. Number three, we continue to do

[3:06:33] lighthouse lectures, newspaper articles, radio talks, and promote both St. George and

[3:06:38] battery point lighthouses. Finally, what will an investment of the county funds make

[3:06:44] How does it benefit the community?

[3:06:49] Number one, having helicopter access is essential to bring consultants and grant running personnel.

[3:06:55] This is the last page personnel to the lighthouse.

[3:06:59] An investment from the county helps with financing the round trip for the helicopter.

[3:07:04] Two, once we raise the funds for restoration work, local merchants and craftsmen alike will benefit from increased revenue and job opportunities from work on this project.

[3:07:14] Also, a great deal of money is spent locally by tourists coming to see the Lighthouse as well as other tourist destinations in Delnar County.

[3:07:23] Three, in conclusion, and the future, our local schools at every level will be able to experience this historical engineering marvel as well as conduct nature studies at this site.

[3:07:35] We at the Society believe this project warrants the board's budgetary consideration.

[3:07:40] Thanks.

[3:07:41] Thank you.

[3:07:41] Hey,

[3:07:46] was that everybody?

[3:07:48] One more?

[3:07:50] Okay, come on down.

[3:08:03] I'm the only one left of the original group to save it.

[3:08:10] Bob Bullen, I towers.

[3:08:13] Anyway, Bob Bullen heard that they had plans for the White House.

[3:08:19] So we removed the plans.

[3:08:20] And then we heard the Sierra Club was going to blow it up.

[3:08:28] So for Seedline Habitat, and so we fought like hell.

[3:08:36] And then in 1992, it turned 100 years old, and then we got it under the historical register.

[3:08:45] But we pissed off a lot of these agencies that are controlled by the CR Club and they've

[3:08:53] been on our back ever since and it's been a struggle.

[3:08:59] We've had garage sales and everything, you know, to keep it going.

[3:09:05] Even had that mural down on the first race, former's, the big miracles there.

[3:09:13] Yeah, we find that's anyway a lot of things that we've been doing and but it's

[3:09:20] just when you hire the helicopter most all the money goes to the to the

[3:09:27] helicopter and then we get local people around donate tools and hard

[3:09:35] first doors to help us out. Anyway, I'll be sure you should. I mean this thing costs more than

[3:09:44] high for a towered field. So we need to save it. Thank you. Thank you.

[3:09:56] Okay. Well, close public

[3:09:57] comment. Bring back to the board. Believe Secretary, were you leading this or? Well, after hearing from

[3:10:05] From everybody, I'm really convinced that this needs to be an ongoing contribution.

[3:10:10] So that's where I'm standing today.

[3:10:16] I only rebuttal to that is given the uncertainty of, you know, what a potential budget looks like for next year, I wouldn't mind if they came back again and re-

[3:10:26] you know, brought us, brought this forward depending upon, I know you will, and depending upon how we are doing in the budget, I would feel comfortable doing it on an annual basis.

[3:10:37] renewing annually as more as my being. I'm all forgiving the money today, but it's your

[3:10:45] motion you do as you feel.

[3:10:46] Supervisor Howard, do you know I just I like where you're going the first time. I really

[3:10:53] appreciate as supervisor Clark more pointing out that this is really part of Donald County

[3:11:00] history and symbolizes us to a great extent. But I also want to point out that I think it's

[3:11:09] really important when we make these long-term investments to recognize and be able to speak

[3:11:16] to it when we do. I think Supervisor Starky did a good job this morning in talking about that return

[3:11:24] on investment specific to the film commission. And some of our ongoing efforts there to show what

[3:11:30] our taxpayer dollar is doing as it returns to the county.

[3:11:36] I'm quite certain this has happened as it in regards to the lighthouse.

[3:11:41] But I want to be able to see it physically be able to talk about it as a elected leader here to show what what does that look like.

[3:11:49] Especially as it as it accounts for that new visitor, not necessarily a resident here.

[3:11:54] So, if we can begin to think about that on an annual basis, what that might look like,

[3:12:00] I'm sure the Preservation Society can help get that data together, but as a Supervisor

[3:12:06] Board just stated, I'm definitely willing to go along at least this first shot and reconsider

[3:12:11] it next year.

[3:12:15] Yeah, the only thing I could say is, you know, points of George is a one-of-a-kind.

[3:12:22] there is no other like it. It was built specific and it is unique. And unfortunately, for us,

[3:12:30] the only way to access it or your staff to go out and make repairs or for visitors to go

[3:12:37] is by helicopter. There is no other way to get out there. I mean, you can

[3:12:41] boat around it all you want, but you're not gonna get onto that rock. So this amount of money,

[3:12:51] Basically, I look at it as seed money, helicopters are very expensive, I know I rented a lot of them over my years and to contract with them to bring their equipment over for a dedicated period of time is not cheap, it's not free.

[3:13:08] You have to pay for that.

[3:13:09] I would hopefully you'll coordinate with our Chamber of Commerce and because there

[3:13:19] are cycles to the visitation, there are times when it is very robust and there are times

[3:13:25] when it is, you know, marginal at best, and any coordination that you could make that

[3:13:31] would balance that out to make those opportunities for visitors to go out there for several

[3:13:38] days at a time would be coordinated with those where the opportunity is going to be best for

[3:13:44] you. And the Chamber of Commerce not only would help in promoting it, but would also give you

[3:13:50] information on when would be the best time opportunity to offer such trips out there to the most

[3:13:58] amount of visitors that come into our community. And you know, I would throw that out to you as we

[3:14:05] as we go forward, I think that it is a good utilization of our resources because I believe

[3:14:13] that it will bring the dollars into the organization to make preservation of that most unique

[3:14:21] lighthouse and a treasure to our community to go on and go forward.

[3:14:25] Thank you.

[3:14:26] Okay.

[3:14:27] If anybody has anything else, I would entertain a motion or should I short just a minute?

[3:14:31] Yeah, I was just going to say, because this is kind of a first time kind of donation to the society. I'm more leaning toward the one year and, you know, we have presentations from

[3:14:48] and the Chamber of Commerce and the folks that we deal with in the community on a regular

[3:14:56] basis and they get money from the county.

[3:14:58] So I think it's fair.

[3:15:00] I ask for you guys to come back to us next year and show us what this money did. And then we'll consider it being an ongoing contribution possibly then. So I have every phase that you guys will do a great job in doing that next budget year. So with that, I was going to make the motion that we authorize this.

[3:15:29] uh for a one-time payment and ask the society to uh bring us a presentation and tell us how that went last year um or I mean this for the last year uh representing this coming year.

[3:15:45] Um and also I guess part two contingent on board approval give direction to the county administrative officer and the auditor controller to revise the fiscal year 2627 final recommended budget as applicable.

[3:16:02] I just wanted to not dismiss some of the comments that Mr. Straight made. Don't be afraid to jack those prices up.

[3:16:13] We've got a lot of people that visit here of high net worth. And these are the kind of things that you can't, as people pointed out, do anywhere else in the world.

[3:16:23] So well,

[3:16:28] you might as well come on up.

[3:16:29] We'll allow it since, well, they can't hear you online if you talk from the audience.

[3:16:36] Once we get a lot of grants and I have every belief that eventually we will.

[3:16:41] I just hope I live long enough to see it.

[3:16:43] But once we get some large block grants where we're able to spend a week or two at a time

[3:16:51] working out at the lighthouse, the helicopter will be here anyway and we're going to be able

[3:16:55] to fly people out a lot more often and what my long-term hope but I think that I can speak

[3:17:01] for the board our long-term hope is that we can actually reduce the cost to fly people out some

[3:17:07] people that have families can afford to bring everyone out to see the lighthouse. Right now we

[3:17:12] can afford not to charge what we're charging and we are entertaining a price increase for our next

[3:17:19] flight but we don't want it to become a situation with only a few people can go out there and everybody

[3:17:24] but they also can't because they can't afford the price of the ticket.

[3:17:29] Once we have these two and three week work sessions,

[3:17:32] we will be able to, you know,

[3:17:34] like say, most of the expense will be taken care by the grant

[3:17:37] because we're going to be there anyway,

[3:17:39] and we can incorporate having tourists so that the general public,

[3:17:43] whose taxes always paid to have the thing built in the first place,

[3:17:46] have access to the line-outs.

[3:17:48] Thanks.

[3:17:49] I'm going to start you just a minute.

[3:17:50] I just wanted to make sure that supervisor short's motion

[3:17:53] did include that this will return during the next budget cycle for consideration of another funding cycle.

[3:18:02] Did I miss that? I just wanted to make sure that.

[3:18:05] Do I include that?

[3:18:07] You did not mention it though.

[3:18:08] I do need to amend my motion to reflect that we need to hear that our next budget cycle to reconsider

[3:18:17] this item. I'll withdraw my motion and second. Supervisor Short's new motion.

[3:18:26] Yeah, Chris, you didn't make a motion. You're just withdrawing your second that you're originally made right and then you're

[3:18:33] reclarifying that you're seconding dare is new motion. Yeah, okay. Okay, would you please pull it out now?

[3:18:41] Supervisor Wilson. Yes. Supervisor Starkey. Yes. Supervisor Howard. Yes. Supervisor Short. Yes. Chair Borgis. Yes.

[3:18:55] This will help with your employment numbers, right?

[3:18:58] Thank you guys for being patient and hanging out with us and we will continue on to item

[3:19:04] number 22.

[3:19:06] Consider approval of the county budget team's recommendation to designate and transfer

[3:19:10] measure our funds to the jail rehabilitation justice campus project budget as requested by

[3:19:16] the county administrative officer and the auditor controller.

[3:19:19] And number two, authorize the auditor controller to make the necessary adjustments to the fiscal year 2627 final recommended budget based on board direction, if applicable.

[3:19:30] Okay. Any questions to start us out? Supervisor Starky?

[3:19:34] Supervisor Stark, did you want to?

[3:19:35] Yeah, I'm just fuzzy on this one. I didn't know what the decisions of the tech and the jail workgroup was.

[3:19:44] As this came out, maybe I missed a meeting where this was discussed, but I didn't understand

[3:19:50] what the justice campus was.

[3:19:52] I know we mentioned a little session a little bit ago, but I was thinking our temporary

[3:19:58] solution for when the jail was remodeled to move the adult inmates to the juvenile hall, but

[3:20:06] it seems to be muddled in my mind with the DA's office and probation moving possibly.

[3:20:14] I just was hoping for a little explanation or certification.

[3:20:19] I don't know if I'm the only one that's fuzzy on this or not.

[3:20:22] You know, if you go ahead and fill us still, I mean.

[3:20:25] Yeah, certainly.

[3:20:26] This is really a specific to the unallocated fund balance

[3:20:30] and measure R right now is what we're specifically talking about.

[3:20:32] The board last year in June approved the use of measure R funds for gap funding for the jail project,

[3:20:39] which obviously exceeds any funding we have available designated for capital improvements anyway.

[3:20:43] way. The additional amount of money that's kind of added to this project is now a consideration

[3:20:48] for a justice campus next door to the sheriff's office on the property owned by the county

[3:20:52] to get our departments that are currently in the courthouse out of there. We are continuing

[3:20:58] to pay increased shared costs for that state building based on our square footage in that

[3:21:02] state building. They have significant capital projects coming up that are going to be required

[3:21:08] of us to pay even additional amounts of money for the new roofs and new construction projects

[3:21:13] that are on the docket if they don't forgive those requirements of us to

[3:21:18] contribute to those. We've requested that due to our fiscal constraints and the

[3:21:22] fact that it's a state-owned building. And so this is kind of an alternative to

[3:21:26] that approach of getting those departments out of that facility and into a

[3:21:30] county-owned facility. So it's kind of a long-term solution. There is an actual

[3:21:34] planned presentation coming to the board. This has been discussed at the

[3:21:38] attack level and approved at the attack level in addition to the working group

[3:21:41] that the board established through the TAC,

[3:21:43] it's been an ongoing meeting on a regular basis

[3:21:45] with the sheriff, with probation,

[3:21:48] with the architects, with the engineers,

[3:21:50] in developing this proposal.

[3:21:52] And so there will be a presentation, I believe,

[3:21:54] either at the second meeting in this month

[3:21:56] or the first meeting in October

[3:21:58] to explain this entire project to the board

[3:22:00] and kind of where we're at,

[3:22:01] and the different options that are available.

[3:22:03] The reason the TAC has kind of chosen to go

[3:22:05] towards the justice campus solution

[3:22:08] is that with the current jail construction happening and having to relocate the inmates to Youth Opportunity Center,

[3:22:19] that actually puts the situation where we're going to have a temporary solution for the Youth Opportunity, the reentry division.

[3:22:29] We're kicking them out of their building, basically, in their offices, so we have to have another available space for them.

[3:22:35] So, the alternative is to do a temporary solution on 5th and G to the tune of about $3 million.

[3:22:42] And so the tax decision was why throw away $3 million in preparing that site, putting

[3:22:48] modules on there for a temporary basis when we can in fact do a more long term solution

[3:22:52] for those departments in the courthouse, which will save us long term and having to pay

[3:22:57] a shared cost of all the capital projects that are on the docket for the superior courthouse.

[3:23:01] So that's kind of where that stands right now.

[3:23:04] That's the recommendation from the tech.

[3:23:05] It will be presented to the board in a couple of meetings,

[3:23:08] but this is focused on the measure R funding.

[3:23:10] There's currently about $3.8 million

[3:23:13] unallocated in that fund.

[3:23:15] The board had previously approved using that for gap funding.

[3:23:17] It was subsequently endorsed by the measure

[3:23:20] our oversight and advisory committee.

[3:23:22] And so this is basically just bringing this back

[3:23:24] to the board saying can you specifically

[3:23:26] designate a certain amount to this project

[3:23:28] so we can get it out of measure R.

[3:23:30] get it into the jail rehab project funding then it actually helps us go forward with looking at outside financing because we know how much money

[3:23:36] We have available from a county perspective right now. That's kind of still up in the air and so our external financing

[3:23:42] We need to fund this project is pending also our consultant is kind of waiting for us to determine what we have ultimately on a county level

[3:23:48] And what we needed for that for that gap funding

[3:23:51] So this is asking the board to take two million dollars. It doesn't need it towards this project

[3:23:55] But there's nothing to do with approving or disproving different design models, anything.

[3:24:00] It's just, you're not at all, not at all.

[3:24:02] That full presentation is coming to the board very soon.

[3:24:05] Thank you for that.

[3:24:05] I thought I was maybe going crazy, but the presentation hasn't come yet.

[3:24:09] I guess I'm still okay.

[3:24:12] Very start.

[3:24:13] This is what's concerning to me, is that you just explained it, that should have all been

[3:24:18] in the board report so that we could have come in here prepared to know what you were talking

[3:24:22] about.

[3:24:23] I had to go through and go through every TAC meeting.

[3:24:26] I had to go through past agendas to try and even figure out how we got here.

[3:24:30] And then that's frustrating, you know, because we want to come in here prepared ready to make decisions.

[3:24:35] And there was nothing that prepared us for this.

[3:24:38] What I concluded was that we previously allocated these $2 million to go to the jail rehab project.

[3:24:46] Now are we needed to take that back and put it now into this jail campus or this

[3:24:53] I don't know what you're calling it, criminal campus, justice campus, I'm sorry, the superheroes

[3:25:01] come to mind.

[3:25:02] But are we, is that what you're asking us to do now?

[3:25:05] No.

[3:25:06] The board previously had taken action to use unallocated measure our funds for gap funding

[3:25:10] regardless of whether the board moved forward with a justice campus or not.

[3:25:13] The jail project itself requires gap funding and $2 million doesn't pay for that gap funding.

[3:25:18] So this is literally just asking measure our funds to be dedicated to this project which

[3:25:22] the board has already taken that direction, but you didn't specify amount.

[3:25:25] We are asking to do half of the fund balance essentially leaving 1.8 million in measure

[3:25:30] are for other board priorities and other things that the oversight and advisory committee

[3:25:35] would like to do with the funding.

[3:25:36] Okay.

[3:25:37] So that 2 million that we allocated to the jail still there.

[3:25:41] You have not allocated any specific amounts to the jail.

[3:25:45] This is you had just said that you are okay with using an allocated measure or funding

[3:25:49] for the Capital Improvement Project.

[3:25:51] Okay.

[3:25:51] There was no, there was no.

[3:25:52] We never did it.

[3:25:53] There was an amount specified.

[3:25:54] This is our recommendation to still leave an adequate fund balance and measure our, but

[3:25:58] while also making a commitment to the jail project, which you guys have prioritized by two

[3:26:02] million dollars and putting that in the actual jail improvement fund.

[3:26:06] Okay.

[3:26:07] And so this went from relocating the Youth Opportunity Center to, I, last I heard was the

[3:26:13] VFW Hall to now building a whole campus.

[3:26:16] Yes, that hasn't gone anywhere yet, that's going to be a recommendation for two million

[3:26:23] getting us right now.

[3:26:24] It's helping provide gap funding for the jail project with or without the Justice Campus

[3:26:29] is over $11 million.

[3:26:31] We currently have $5 million set aside for the jail project.

[3:26:34] So we have $6 million that we have to come up with in gap funding regardless of whether

[3:26:38] or not you move forward with the Justice Campus.

[3:26:40] This $2 million only puts $2 million towards that $6 million for the jail rehab.

[3:26:44] So it leaves us with 4 million that we still have to figure out correct and

[3:26:49] That's where you're saying that if we at least have this it puts us in a better position to go out and look for funding

[3:26:55] To borrow correct it reduces the amount. We'd actually have to borrow. Okay. Thank you

[3:27:01] Again, I really would like these presentations before

[3:27:05] So that we're not in the dark

[3:27:11] Okay, anything else?

[3:27:12] Public comment talk

[3:27:19] about not being in the dark

[3:27:22] I mean, I've complained for years about the report that are given for individual items

[3:27:29] on the consent agenda about how limp-rested they are and about how you may understand

[3:27:37] it.

[3:27:38] You may be able to get questions answered, but it certainly doesn't happen on the public

[3:27:42] level.

[3:27:43] We read the, well, some of us anyway read the board reports and are no more informed prior

[3:27:50] reading them then after you finish reading them. Sometimes the supplemental

[3:27:55] documentation that comes along with it is equally obscure. So now here you're

[3:28:03] talking about gap funding for a capital improvement project. You've just

[3:28:10] approved the airport authority, some gap funding. How many other special districts

[3:28:16] are going to require gap funding from the county before you finally realize

[3:28:20] that you don't have enough to go around it I mean I don't have a problem with

[3:28:27] that what you're doing particularly but the transparency is non-existent

[3:28:31] I mean most people that come to a board meeting like this wouldn't know

[3:28:35] what the heck you're talking about let alone understand even with the

[3:28:39] explanation that the the CAO has given it's still rather obscure about what

[3:28:48] what you're doing. Are you going to spend the money on the jail? Are you going to spend

[3:28:52] the money on the justice campus? Are you not going to spend it? Is it there in case

[3:28:57] you need it? What, you know, what are you doing with this money exactly other than guaranteeing

[3:29:03] it's going to be there for something? Thank you.

[3:29:15] Amy Latfner, constituent right now. I just wanted some clarification so Neil just talked

[3:29:23] talked about the part of this is the courthouse shared costs.

[3:29:27] But during the budget hearings, when we were discussing the courthouse vestibule and the

[3:29:31] cost there, we were told that the courthouse, it's a shared cost that we're responsible

[3:29:36] for 40% of the maintenance for guardless of how much of the building we're occupying.

[3:29:41] So even if we're not occupying the building, I'm just wondering where that savings is coming

[3:29:47] from if we still are required 40% even if we remove all of our people from the building.

[3:29:55] Okay. Any others? I'll close it. The only thing you want to, you can tack on there.

[3:30:00] Yeah, I can. The 40% or nearly 40% is based on the square footage that's occupied by the current county departments that are there. I think it's 38.7. I'd have to look at the actual shared cost agreement. The continued payment is called a court facilities payment. That was established based on how much the counties spent when we owned the building for a 10-year period prior to the state taking it over. And then they were requiring us to make that payment for maintenance costs going forward forever. They don't end.

[3:30:29] What we're talking about right now is shared cost of capital improvements to the building if capital improvements are actually needed and they want us to pay that 38 point something percent of those projects currently that's kind of awaiting for movement on the state side as well as the county side is a replacement of that roof, which is several millions of dollars, which the county would they'd be required to pay 38.7% of that unless they forgive us, forgive that requirement for us by saying it's your building, it's your property, can you pay for your own capital

[3:30:59] improvements. But right now we're going through the vegetable remodel and the projection I think is

[3:31:04] around $500,000 for county share.

[3:31:08] Okay. And all of that isn't what we're really even talking about

[3:31:11] on this agenda item. This is specifically any decisions on what we're building or where or locations.

[3:31:17] This is just earmarketing a specific dollar amount to go to the. For the jail rehab project correct

[3:31:22] which is why there wasn't a massive amount of details about the project included near. It is literally

[3:31:26] based on past board direction in June and that those projects will come out of

[3:31:33] future day and then we can discuss them in depth okay so if that's clear to make

[3:31:38] a motion please okay to consider the county budget teams recommendation to

[3:31:43] designate and transfer measure our funds to the jail rehabilitation justice

[3:31:48] campus project budget and authorize the moderate controller to make the necessary

[3:31:53] Thank you very much to the fiscal year 2627 fiscal recommended budget and I will second motion and a second Kylie supervisor will sit. Yes.

[3:32:05] Supervisor Starkey.

[3:32:06] Sorry about that. Supervisor short. Yes. Supervisor Howard. Yes. Chair board just. Yes.

[3:32:13] Okay, that takes us to our final item.

[3:32:18] The consent agenda, any public comment on consent agenda items?

[3:32:31] Thank you all, no, my position on the consent agenda begin to refer to it as the mistake agenda in that you ought to be embarrassed by the fact that there's only one item on general business.

[3:32:49] and there are 13 items on the consent agenda.

[3:32:55] I have been frustrated by the fact that there's numerous items on the consent agenda I wish

[3:33:00] to discuss in each and every board meeting from now until, I don't know, five years ago.

[3:33:09] And the fact that you're limited to three minutes pretty much prevents any kind of transparency

[3:33:14] on the consent agenda.

[3:33:16] And I would like to talk about maybe one item that is perhaps number two.

[3:33:25] You're appointing Supervisor Howard, Supervisor Short, and Jerry Hemingston to the Board

[3:33:30] of Coast Airport Authority before your terms.

[3:33:34] And I would think that over the past 10 years and the futility of trying to maintain that

[3:33:43] the airport, and the fact that it now requires county assistance in order to keep it functional, that the three people that you're suggesting have had ample opportunity to correct that situation to the point where the airport is actually sustainable pretty clearly that hasn't happened.

[3:34:05] and there's this old adage that keep doing the same thing

[3:34:13] and expecting something different.

[3:34:15] You are likely to be disappointed.

[3:34:19] So while I'm sure that both the county supervisors

[3:34:25] are aptly experienced in order to take on that position

[3:34:32] and I'm very certain that Jerry Hemistane

[3:34:34] has similar qualifications. It would seem to me that perhaps some new blood is maybe necessary

[3:34:44] to get the airport into a stable situation where it is actually financially functional.

[3:34:51] I mean the airport already has significant number of problems already that don't seem to be

[3:34:57] getting solved. In the course of the past decade, I would think that that would be ample amount

[3:35:04] of time for those that you're currently appointing to at least make some movement towards

[3:35:12] making the airport somewhat sustainable. It doesn't appear to happen. It doesn't appear like it's

[3:35:19] going to happen. I mean a discussion with the current carrier one of four in the past decade.

[3:35:30] You currently have major projects at the airport that is going to require substantial amounts

[3:35:36] of money that the airport currently doesn't have. They've got an airport terminal that currently is

[3:35:43] following a part and is under some sort of legal mumbo jumbo met which

[3:35:52] craft to try to recover some of the funding for the problems with the current

[3:36:01] terminal. I mean the airport right now is a basket case and you know you don't

[3:36:09] any place that anybody really wants to go. You currently are going to have a problem because

[3:36:15] Hawthorne is, they've discovered that the runway there is too short and they're going to have to

[3:36:20] transfer any kind of an LA basin flight someplace else which likely will be inadequate. You can't go

[3:36:28] to Portland because they've already tried that and it doesn't work. I mean the problems at the airport

[3:36:35] Before the 30 has are unending and you need somebody that can look at it from a fresh perspective.

[3:36:42] Thank you, Sam.

[3:36:52] Mike Greer.

[3:36:53] I am standing now as a county board member for the Board of Education.

[3:36:58] I just want to thank you for number six.

[3:37:00] We're going to amend it.

[3:37:02] Continue with the program that we have with the school, the county school programs for boss youth.

[3:37:08] Thank you very much.

[3:37:10] I will close public comment. Bring back to the board for any future.

[3:37:16] Move to approve the consent agenda.

[3:37:18] No second. Motion and a second.

[3:37:21] Good.

[3:37:23] Supervisor Wilson.

[3:37:25] Yes.

[3:37:25] Supervisor Starkey.

[3:37:27] Yes.

[3:37:27] Supervisor Short.

[3:37:29] Yes.

[3:37:29] Supervisor Howard.

[3:37:30] Yes.

[3:37:31] Chair Borgis.

[3:37:31] Yes.

[3:37:32] And with that, we are adjourned.

[3:37:35] Thank you very much.

[3:37:36] And, Chair, do you want to make a note that our next meeting is going to start at 9 a.m.?

[3:37:43] Yes. 9 a.m. September 22. Thank you very much.

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