Agenda
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Meeting Start
[0:50]
Consent Agenda
[1:32]
Appointment Presentations
[33:37]
Delegations and Individuals
[50:07]
Deliberations
[56:25]
Deliberations
[58:44]
Administration Reports
[1:00:07]
Administration Reports
[1:20:29]
Administration Reports
[1:22:46]
Administration Reports
[1:42:05]
Committee & Liaison Reports
[1:43:17]
Committee & Liaison Reports
[1:45:33]
Member Updates & Any Other Business
[1:46:57]
Future Meetings
[1:47:19]
Nonpublic Session
Transcript
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Good evening everyone.
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I will now call this meeting of
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the Dairy School Board to order.
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Please stand and join me. In the Pledge of Allegiance,
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I pledge Allegiance, speech flag,
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the United States of America,
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and to Republic religious stands, one nation under God,
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indivisible, liberty and justice.
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Thank you. We will start with the roll call.
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If everyone could introduce
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themselves, starting from my right.
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Dr. Carrie Sandon, assistant superintendent,
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Jane Sard, business administrator.
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I'm Michael Flynn, superintendent Brenda Willis.
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School Board. Michael Thiel, school board Chair.
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Jen Thoro, school Board, vice Chair.
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Jamie Crew. School Board. Karen Rand, school Board.
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All right. Thank you everybody.
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Our first order of business will be the consent
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agenda for tonight.
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We have the public meeting minutes of August 25th, 2026,
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the non-public meeting minutes of August 25th, 2026,
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and the manifest in the amount of $4,797,499
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and 2 cents of which $3,578,509
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and 90 cents is general payroll
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and $1,218,989
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and 12 cents is general expense.
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Do I have a motion to accept the consent agenda?
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So Moved first by Jamie. Second. Second by Karen.
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All in favor? Aye. All opposed. Motion passes. Five zero.
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All right. We have one presentation.
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We have the principles of our six schools with us tonight,
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so I will turn it over to Mike to introduce everyone.
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Thanks. As we are well aware,
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last meeting we had was the first day of school
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and we held all of the good news
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and things that have welcoming back for our principles.
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As always, this is their favorite board report of the year.
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They get to talk about all the cool things
[1:56]
that are gonna kick off the year, the work
[1:58]
that's done this summer, and really
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answer any questions that we have.
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Alright, we're gonna go in reverse order.
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'cause Lisa always, yes, Lisa always says, well, what else?
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So here we go. Thank you.
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I can.
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Hi everyone Again.
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Thank you once again for this opportunity
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to talk about Gilbert H Middle School.
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When you work in schools,
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there's something always special about the
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start of every new year.
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And preparing for that successful launch
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starts in the summer, and that's a lot of our summer work.
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So I'm gonna talk a little bit about summer Big thank you
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to our custodial and FA
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and facilities teams that work tirelessly
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to get our building ready and just,
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and as a additional project this summer,
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we also had new flooring
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and it's really freshened up a part, part of our building
[3:06]
and we're very thankful for that.
[3:08]
Alongside those physical upgrades,
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we've also worked the summer hiring new staff
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to get prepared in that way.
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And we're thrilled to welcome 16 new staff members
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to our community.
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We have nine classroom new classroom teachers,
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a new school nurse, and six new support staff.
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And watching our amazing returning staff welcome these new
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hires into our community, has been fantastic.
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While a quiet summer building allows us to prepare,
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nothing compares to the moment our doors open
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and a little over 607th
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and eighth graders come through the doors.
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The energy, the smiles, the sense
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of connection reminds us all exactly why we do this work.
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As we look ahead for this coming year, our staff recognizes
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that a strong academic foundation relies on a
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strong positive culture.
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Middle school is a critical time of transition
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and students thrive when they feel grounded,
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valued, and seen.
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With this in mind, our overarching focus
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for this school year comes down to three clear words,
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connect, support, and Celebrate Connect.
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We're focusing on building intentional relationships across
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grade levels and teams.
[4:25]
We're rolling out updated Cares matrices.
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You might hear some of the other principles talk about that.
[4:30]
Embedding core competencies like cooperation, empathy,
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and self control directly into our daily instruction.
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While continuously re reinforcing our core motto,
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which you've heard me say before, which is, work hard,
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make good choices, and be kind.
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As far as the support part, we're strengthening our system
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of care for every individual in the building.
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That means providing targeted academic
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and behavioral interventions
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for students who need extra help.
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Cultivating a STU student leadership
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and ensuring our new staff members have the mentoring
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and professional resources that they need.
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And as far as celebrating, we wanna make sure
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that we are actively recognizing the good
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that happens every single day in our building.
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We're establishing regular recognition routines
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for both students and staff, highlighting achievements,
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recognizing areas of growth,
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and bringing our school community together
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to celebrate success stories.
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When we intentionally connect with one another,
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support each other through challenges
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and celebrate our victories together,
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we create an environment
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where every student at Gilbert h Hood can be successful.
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Thank you for your continued support of our school,
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our staff, and our students.
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I look forward to a fantastic school year.
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Any questions for me?
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Questions for Mr. Hall? Thank you. Thank you, Lisa.
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Thank you.
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Good evening everybody. I think Lisa said it all,
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so, no, I'm just kidding.
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No, it's really, it's really great to be here again.
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It, it's been a really exciting start to the school year.
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There's nothing quite like the first day of school,
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like Lisa mentioned,
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we have 657 students as of today, I believe,
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and that's an increase from last year, about 30 students.
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So it really was great
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to start the year seeing all the fifth graders come in
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with the sixth graders who have been there last year
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and the support that they showed
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them when they entered the building.
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We also are basically fully staffed at this point,
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which is really excellent way to begin things.
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We just need almost two days of a para,
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I think at this point is really all we're looking for.
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And we're excited that we have ESSA new program
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that we're piloting at West Running Brook for our students
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with emotional disturbance.
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And that has gone really well
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and we're looking forward to working with
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that group over the course of the year.
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The building looks amazing.
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All of the work that happened over the summer,
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we can't thank this board, Jeremy and his team
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and our custodians enough
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for the new flooring that's in our building.
[7:26]
The courtyard has been paved
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and that is a much safer, better environment for students,
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which is used very frequently in the winter for recess.
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And then as all students enter the building that way,
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that was a long time coming
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and we appreciate that very much.
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We shifted our schedule a little bit this year.
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We're happy to report that with the time change
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that we have, we were able
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to carve out more instructional time,
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which we had talked about over the course of last year.
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So we have an additional 15 minutes that we were able
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to spread out over the course of the day,
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which doesn't sound like a lot,
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but over the course of the year, 15 minutes a day is,
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is quite a bit of time.
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What that looks like for fifth grade is their core blocks
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are pushed together.
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So they will stay with their ELA social studies
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and writing teacher for a period of 96 minutes.
[8:20]
They'll be with their science
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and mathematics teacher for a period of 96 minutes.
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And it gives that teacher flexibility to either work
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more heavily on maybe reading
[8:30]
and less on the social studies piece,
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or if they're working on a social studies project,
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expand the time there without that transition time.
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Just saw it today where students in a fifth grade classroom
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are working on a science experiment,
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which takes a little bit longer.
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They were able to have that time
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and use the flexibility within that longer period to,
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to do what they needed to do.
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So we're really excited about the potential there.
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Also, it, the students are extremely excited about the
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potential of the athletics that they're able
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to join over at Kil Day should.
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So we are, we have several
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of our students playing on soccer field hockey cross country
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this year and that's been a really exciting addition for us.
[9:11]
We want to thank Mitch Edwards for once again,
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helping us out, securing the funding
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to have some really great team building things
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at the beginning of the year.
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On September 1st, the Brown Center from UNH
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who were experts in team building worked
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with our sixth graders.
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And although it was kind of a rainy day,
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they were in the classrooms working on team building
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and that went really well in it.
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For the second straight year,
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we've sent our entire fifth grade on a field trip.
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It was not the first week of school this year,
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it was the second week, which actually worked out much
[9:43]
better is, you know,
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teachers knew the students a little bit better,
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but they traveled to Camp Carpenter
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and just had an amazing day.
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You know, working together and building relationships
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with their peers and with the staff.
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We continue to be a partner school
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with Southern New Hampshire University.
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That relationship continues to expand.
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So we do have six interns this year at West Running Brook.
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We also, in the past three year
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or two years rather, first two years, we had
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a special education class
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that was taught in our school with undergrads.
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And then they went out across the building
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and gained some field experience.
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We are also gonna have a science class taught there this
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year where best in HU the professor will come to the school,
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instruct 14 or 15 students,
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and then they'll gain some field experience with hopes
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that they'll want to intern in Derry
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and then eventually join our team, which we've seen a lot
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of positive results in that regard.
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So we just want to thank you for the support.
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It's been a great, a great start to the year
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with the time change is one more thing that I wanted
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to mention is our bus ridership is up tremendously
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and I think that's, that's really good.
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Our, our drop off has gone down, our ridership is up
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and as we navigate the beginning of that, the beginning
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of the year with those things, we should be able
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to get students into the building on
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time in an efficient way.
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So thank you for the support.
[11:12]
Thank you. Any questions?
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Questions? Not a question.
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Just a comment to say
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that we sat on the time change committee together over the
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course of several meetings last fall into the
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early winter maybe.
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And I'm really pleased to hear about the positive impacts
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that, that time change is having,
[11:30]
particularly at West Running Brook.
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I know that I would often look to you
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and during that meeting, a lot of times it was about busing,
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which was definitely an issue.
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And a major component also though, was instructional time,
[11:40]
particularly at West Running Brook.
[11:43]
And you said it was what, 15 minutes
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Gain?
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Just about. So we are at, so it 15,
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about 15 minutes.
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So our core blocks for fifth grade
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are 96 minutes.
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Last year that would've only been 90,
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which doesn't sound like a big change,
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but six minutes is a hu is a massive change.
[12:04]
And over the course of an entire year that that really
[12:08]
makes a difference and it allowed us to be able to do it.
[12:12]
It's complicated to schedule like that to get it.
[12:17]
The middle school, the intermediate school schedule's really
[12:21]
difficult to work
[12:22]
through all the things if students need band
[12:23]
or they're, you know, they have different service delivery.
[12:25]
So to be able to have some additional flexibility was huge
[12:29]
this summer and it just benefits all the students.
[12:31]
Yeah, I'm, I'm really pleased to hear that.
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And I also, Mr. Flynn had told me a couple weeks back
[12:36]
that you had said the first week of school
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that ridership was up, particularly in the morning,
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which I think maybe wasn't an impact we, we saw coming,
[12:44]
but I think it's a very positive one too,
[12:46]
so that's great to hear.
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Yeah, anecdotally, I mean, I would say 30 to 40%,
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but I don't, I don't have a number so I could,
[12:53]
that could be totally made up.
[12:54]
But I'm out there every morning and,
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and I noticed that we won't quote you.
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It feels like almost half fewer cars in the morning.
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It's really quick. So that's, that's excellent.
[13:06]
Just to put it in perspective, 15 minutes a day
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ends up being about 46 hours extra during a year.
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Yeah. Which ends up being about seven extra days. Yeah.
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Mathematically instructional time.
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So every minute does count in our schedule.
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That was a very large sticking point for me.
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And I would often look to Bill during those meetings
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and kind of like say like, it was Bill's mantra, like,
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I just need 15 more minutes.
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We were gonna put that on his headstone. Yeah.
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And so I, I'm really pleased to hear that.
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And that number could totally be made up. So,
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And yeah, we gonna put him on that.
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Alright. Thank you everybody. Thank you.
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Thanks Bill.
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Hi everyone. Thanks for having us here tonight.
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We had a great opening of the school year at Grinnell,
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but to get there, I have to go back to the end of last year
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and I, I still am super excited at the hard work
[14:02]
that our students in SAF did last year.
[14:05]
And just looking at one piece of data, their
[14:09]
NWEA map testing results in math.
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Everybody, every grade level was in high achievement,
[14:15]
high growth, which is something for the students
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and staff to be proud of.
[14:19]
I followed the end of the school year
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by joining the curriculum team at the NWEA
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Fusion National Conference.
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And we got to showcase our district
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and talk about some of the things that allowed that growth
[14:32]
to be possible, which was exciting.
[14:34]
And then over the summer, lots of things took place.
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We had some tile replaced, we had some carpets replaced.
[14:42]
The contractors maintenance
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and custodial staff did a great job in our building.
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I wanna give a special shout out to the custodial staff
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for everything they did over the summer,
[14:53]
including our summer custodians.
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And then our teachers spent the summer working on different
[14:59]
task forces for curriculum and sharing
[15:02]
and collaborating with each other, which is always a,
[15:04]
a good thing to get the teachers
[15:07]
voice heard in what's happening
[15:09]
and what's going to be coming up in the school year.
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And then from a leadership
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standpoint, it was a great summer.
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The elementary principals
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and assistant principals in particular, along
[15:19]
with the middle end intermediate at
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times did weekly huddles.
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So we got to collaborate and work together
[15:25]
and that was the first time we've
[15:27]
ever done something like that.
[15:28]
And it was extremely positive
[15:30]
and it allowed us time to share some best practices
[15:34]
and think of different things
[15:37]
for the upcoming school year in our building.
[15:40]
Specifically at Grinnell, we hired six
[15:42]
new staff over the summer.
[15:43]
So we are also almost fully staffed.
[15:46]
We still could use some paraprofessionals.
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So if anybody is looking
[15:50]
to be an elementary paraprofessional, give us a call.
[15:54]
And our kitchen staff
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and secretaries returned in August, like they always do
[15:59]
with smiles on their faces, ready to greet students ready
[16:03]
to offer help and support in any way we need it.
[16:06]
And then we finished the summer
[16:08]
with popsicles on the playground, an event we did with PTA
[16:12]
for our kindergarten families.
[16:14]
And it was great to see the kindergartners come
[16:17]
and play on the playground, meet kids that they haven't met
[16:21]
before, see kids that they've seen around town
[16:24]
and families to connect.
[16:26]
So that was nice. And it's always fun in the fall when you
[16:29]
see the little kindergartners come in, you forget
[16:31]
how little they are at the very beginning.
[16:33]
And some of them are just four years old
[16:35]
and those days are long when they first start,
[16:37]
but they're doing a great job transitioning
[16:39]
and we couldn't be any prouder of them.
[16:41]
So we finished with our meet
[16:43]
and greet where we had almost all of our families attend.
[16:46]
It was extremely well attended
[16:48]
and we started the school year ready to go
[16:51]
and just excited for what the school year is going to bring.
[16:55]
Great. Any questions?
[16:58]
Questions? Alright, thanks. Thank you.
[17:16]
Mary and I were trying to decide who was going next.
[17:19]
Thank you. As I said, thank you for having us tonight.
[17:22]
We, we really enjoy coming out
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and talking about our schools at South Range.
[17:28]
We certainly had a busy summer.
[17:30]
I know you've heard a lot about it
[17:31]
and I'm gonna give you a little bit
[17:32]
of a different perspective about our summer.
[17:35]
Clearly construction was, was a big part of that.
[17:38]
I had weekly meetings with the contractors
[17:40]
and with the facilities department and Mrs. Joseph
[17:44]
and I spent our summer,
[17:46]
although I was there at the school,
[17:48]
checking in a few times a week.
[17:50]
We spent our summer with all of our, our colleagues.
[17:53]
They were very welcoming.
[17:55]
They allowed us to have interviews at their schools.
[17:57]
They welcomed us to spend some time there.
[17:59]
So that was really great to, to have
[18:01]
that admin time together with,
[18:03]
with the other building admins.
[18:07]
We were, we were definitely grateful of all of
[18:09]
that support that, that we received.
[18:11]
So although the contractors told us all summer,
[18:14]
Mike reassured me,
[18:15]
everything's fine, Michelle, everything's fine.
[18:17]
Jeremy told me it's gonna be great.
[18:19]
The contractors kept saying that.
[18:20]
It took a while for me to see that light at the end
[18:22]
of the tunnel of, okay, we're gonna be ready to open
[18:25]
and we're going to be ready to have that, that meet
[18:27]
and greet on Monday the 24th for our students,
[18:30]
as you've heard from, from everybody else,
[18:33]
it was just incredible to watch the buses pull out,
[18:35]
watch the contractors pull in,
[18:37]
and then at the end of the summer, watch the contractors
[18:41]
and the dumpsters and the porta-potties go out
[18:44]
and the students come in, you know, shortly after that.
[18:48]
So while obviously that was a major topic,
[18:52]
the construction at South Range was
[18:54]
a major topic of the summer.
[18:55]
What I really wanna highlight tonight is the incredible
[18:58]
sense of teamwork and community that was on display
[19:01]
as we prepared for our students to return.
[19:04]
So there was, again, a lot of conversation,
[19:06]
is it going to be ready in time?
[19:08]
And we yes, it will, it will be ready,
[19:10]
we'll be ready for students.
[19:12]
Typically, we, our students are, our teachers are able
[19:16]
to come back a little bit early,
[19:17]
obviously that was not able to happen.
[19:19]
They came back and just watching the teamwork
[19:22]
of them coming back, they came back a little overwhelmed.
[19:25]
There were still contractors, feet hanging from the ceiling.
[19:27]
There were still things going on
[19:29]
as the teachers were entering the building.
[19:31]
And they, they were very overwhelmed by that.
[19:33]
But then watching them just turn to not
[19:37]
what hasn't been done yet, but changed their attitude.
[19:40]
To have that attitude of, well, what do we need to do?
[19:42]
How do we need to get this ready
[19:44]
and make sure that our school is ready for,
[19:46]
for students to come back.
[19:48]
Having the, the teamwork from the
[19:51]
SAU leadership team coming over,
[19:54]
almost the entire BARCA staff came over
[19:55]
to support our, our teachers.
[19:57]
And just, it was, and again, our lead, my team,
[20:02]
my leadership team over here, everybody just came together
[20:04]
to support us to say, what can we do?
[20:06]
How can we help? How can we ensure
[20:08]
that this is ready for students?
[20:10]
And it was, it was truly great just to see
[20:12]
that all come together, just to make sure with
[20:17]
that shared goal of our students coming back to a building
[20:20]
that is ready for them.
[20:22]
So we had a line out the door on Monday morning at,
[20:27]
I looked out the window at about 8 45
[20:29]
and there was a line out the door
[20:31]
and down the, down the sidewalk for our meet and greet.
[20:33]
And just seeing those,
[20:35]
those families come in the smiling faces
[20:37]
and going, this is what, this is why we're here.
[20:39]
This is what we, we do this for.
[20:41]
Was, was really great to see.
[20:44]
The excitement just made our building
[20:46]
feel like itself again.
[20:47]
Obviously all summer long, it,
[20:49]
it didn't, it didn't feel that way.
[20:51]
But seeing all of the exciting smiles
[20:53]
and families come in really, really made it feel great.
[20:56]
We have positive energy to start the school year.
[20:59]
We are ready to go.
[21:00]
It has been a fantastic start to the school year.
[21:05]
Our teachers are building
[21:06]
relationships with their new students.
[21:08]
Our students came back in ready to do every routine
[21:11]
that they had before they left our kindergartners,
[21:13]
as Melissa mentioned, they come in and they're so little,
[21:17]
but they came in and they knew exactly
[21:18]
what to do on that first day.
[21:19]
And it just, it's been,
[21:21]
it's been a great start to the school year
[21:26]
Questions, I've just gotta say, I went over
[21:30]
to South Range about two and a half weeks
[21:32]
before the beginning of school
[21:33]
and stood in a classroom with Jeremy
[21:35]
that had no ceiling and no windows.
[21:38]
So, you know, it's pretty impressive
[21:40]
what the construction crews were able to do to get
[21:42]
that school ready in time and everybody throughout the
[21:44]
district to get everything put back together again.
[21:47]
Yeah, Wednesday, Wednesday afternoon,
[21:50]
teachers came back on Thursday, Wednesday afternoon,
[21:52]
our classrooms were still empty
[21:53]
and everything was still in the cafeteria in the gym.
[21:56]
And it was, it was just incredible
[21:58]
to watch it all come together and just seeing step by step.
[22:03]
I knew it would, couldn't see it.
[22:06]
I knew it would, I couldn't see it quite there.
[22:10]
I kept saying to the, the superintendents,
[22:12]
the contract superintendents, I believe you.
[22:15]
I hear you. I just can't envision how this is going to work.
[22:18]
But it did.
[22:19]
And, and again,
[22:21]
everybody really pulled together to, to make that happen.
[22:23]
So that sense of community was great.
[22:25]
I think maybe you should have done like
[22:26]
cookies for the custodians.
[22:29]
Oh, they, yeah. We, we took, we fed. We fed. Yeah.
[22:32]
We took care of it. We took care of it. Yeah.
[22:34]
They, they were, they were well fed. Everybody.
[22:37]
And they were custodians from all different schools
[22:39]
that came over to help the facilities team, you know,
[22:42]
over there, again, just members of family,
[22:45]
members of our staff.
[22:46]
Like it was just, it was, it was great.
[22:48]
Everybody came together, but we did make sure
[22:50]
that they were, that they were
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fed. Thank you. Thanks
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Michelle.
[22:57]
Thank you very much.
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This is way go first.
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Now I know what it feels like for everything to be said.
[23:11]
So at East Area, we didn't have as much work
[23:13]
as other people, but the work that was done was amazing.
[23:16]
The roof, that's something that you don't always,
[23:19]
you can't always appreciate because you don't see it.
[23:22]
But the work, it took quite a bit of time
[23:24]
and people were just up and down getting things done.
[23:27]
So that's outta the way. But more importantly,
[23:29]
the rugs were taken up and tile put down
[23:33]
and the wax put down and the custodians over the summer
[23:36]
and the summer help were amazing.
[23:38]
To the point where with the concrete walls, when you use
[23:41]
that sticky, that sticky putty to hang things up,
[23:44]
it gets in the pores of it.
[23:46]
They literally had toothbrushes and things
[23:48]
and toothpaste to take it out.
[23:49]
They took such pride in it, painted the walls,
[23:52]
and if there was a holiday, they went back
[23:54]
and they even used little paintbrushes to do it.
[23:56]
It literally looks like a new building when you go inside.
[23:58]
They also had the time to set up the
[24:00]
classrooms furniture wise.
[24:01]
So the teachers and the teachers totally appreciated.
[24:03]
That was one of the things they brought up was
[24:05]
that I walked in my classroom,
[24:07]
my everything was where it needed to be.
[24:09]
I could just get down and get working and,
[24:11]
and decorate what I needed to decorate.
[24:13]
The meet and greet was amazing.
[24:15]
Year three, now they're at East Area
[24:17]
and the, you know, the teachers do all the real hard work
[24:20]
and the staff, you know, has to pull everything together.
[24:23]
And I get to be like the mother of the bride kissing
[24:25]
and hugging people as they come in
[24:26]
and as we walk through the halls,
[24:28]
it's like such a proud moment
[24:29]
and such a strong sense of community.
[24:32]
And the work of cares is really showing up in the sense that
[24:35]
morning meeting is flawless.
[24:37]
Fourth grade bar, the whole fourth grade team in
[24:39]
to do a morning meeting together.
[24:41]
And Kelly and I got to join them
[24:42]
and the routines are so established that
[24:46]
building those relationships and ha doing those activities
[24:48]
and learning more about each other came, came
[24:51]
with absolute nee ease.
[24:53]
You know, again, our PTA I'm looking forward
[24:56]
to the things they have scheduled for us.
[24:58]
They are so supportive.
[24:59]
The volunteers that come in, like Jen who runs off papers
[25:02]
and stuff, they, those are the things
[25:04]
that people don't necessarily see.
[25:05]
They come and have the fun or the teachers have the
[25:07]
materials they need to get it done.
[25:09]
The great work that's done all the time.
[25:11]
So again, looking forward to a great year.
[25:13]
The weekly huddles was probably my favorite year.
[25:16]
This is, I'm going to year 41
[25:18]
and dairy, but not as a principal.
[25:19]
But my most favorite year as a summer as a principal,
[25:22]
because we, it's not that we don't collaborate
[25:25]
or talk in the summer because you call and stuff each other
[25:29]
and we lean on each other,
[25:30]
but being in the same room with each other,
[25:32]
to have those conversations and think of things together
[25:35]
and plan things out together was amazing.
[25:39]
Like, so appreciate the work that we got to do side by side.
[25:45]
I have a question. So now are all the classrooms at East
[25:48]
Area tile floor?
[25:50]
Like all the rug is gone.
[25:51]
They are except the C Oh,
[25:54]
I'm gonna have to think about the library.
[25:56]
No, I the library
[25:57]
sells carpet, right Picture, there's still carpet.
[25:59]
So the classroom, yeah, but the three cubbies,
[26:01]
the last three rooms that, that had the cubbies
[26:02]
that were blocking the view
[26:03]
for when kids were hanging up their things are going
[26:05]
to get things or maybe not doing
[26:07]
things they should do behind there.
[26:09]
Now we can see it. We don't need the little mirrors,
[26:11]
the backup mirrors that for teachers to look
[26:13]
and just opening that up along with the tile floors,
[26:16]
make the room seem brighter and bigger.
[26:19]
So tho those look beautiful too. But those are all done.
[26:21]
We're down to like minimal rugs in in
[26:23]
that back suite in the small offices.
[26:25]
There's rugs back there, but they
[26:26]
but the classroom, it's the, the classroom,
[26:28]
the classroom structure themselves are all yep,
[26:30]
tile, easy to clean.
[26:31]
Yeah. And, okay, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah.
[26:38]
Alright. Thank you Mary. Thanks Mary.
[26:41]
Last but not least,
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Well now I do get to know what it's like
[26:51]
to have everything said, but there,
[26:53]
there's some important things to, to say about Barker here.
[26:57]
We had a, a busy summer, but
[27:00]
before I get into that, I just want
[27:01]
to thank the Barca custodians.
[27:03]
You know, you guys are gonna notice a, a theme here,
[27:06]
the Barca custodians.
[27:07]
We have four guys that put their heart
[27:10]
and soul into everything they do there
[27:11]
to make that school shine.
[27:13]
We are fortunate with the school that we have
[27:15]
and we know that, and those guys do a lot of work
[27:18]
to get the school ready so
[27:20]
that it does shine the way that it does.
[27:22]
But that being said, Jeremy's crew also
[27:25]
did three new things for bark.
[27:27]
And I don't want that to go on set either.
[27:28]
The new sign out on 28 is, is a beautiful sign.
[27:33]
We also had the bleachers that were in disarray.
[27:36]
They needed to really be repaired and,
[27:38]
and they repaired every single seat in our bleachers in the,
[27:41]
in the gymnasium and then the tactile pads outside.
[27:45]
We have a couple staff
[27:47]
and a few students that are in wheelchairs.
[27:49]
And those tactile pads are important
[27:50]
for them coming into the building.
[27:52]
We have three main spots where they enter the building
[27:55]
and those tactile pads were replaced.
[27:58]
And that's a big deal for them.
[28:00]
So we just wanna acknowledge that, you know,
[28:02]
that work was done at Barca and, and it was important work.
[28:06]
Like I said, we were busy this summer at Barca
[28:10]
and I just wanna make sure that, you know,
[28:12]
people are acknowledged for that as well.
[28:14]
We had four programs that were running this summer in ESY
[28:18]
and we also had Title one that was done
[28:22]
by our curriculum department.
[28:25]
And that's a big undertaking.
[28:26]
We had about 200 students at school.
[28:29]
And so that requires a lot of preparation, a lot of staff,
[28:32]
a lot, a lot of organization and student services.
[28:35]
Did a great job doing that.
[28:37]
It really was, was a pleasure to run at Barca.
[28:42]
That being said, it was also talked about the administration
[28:45]
being able to get together
[28:47]
because we didn't have construction at Barca.
[28:49]
We were able to use that, that space
[28:53]
and the administration pulled together
[28:55]
and took days to make sure
[28:57]
that the ESY program ran smoothly.
[28:59]
And that allotted us time to get together
[29:02]
and do a lot of team building.
[29:04]
We are, I would say close as a group anyway,
[29:08]
but having that time together uninterrupted,
[29:11]
where you can just sit like Mary kind of alluded to,
[29:14]
where you're just bouncing ideas off of one another
[29:16]
and, you know, talk about things
[29:18]
that come up throughout the year really does help you
[29:21]
grow as a professional.
[29:22]
So it was nice to have everybody together
[29:24]
and I think that that's, you know, a testament
[29:27]
to these guys in their professionalism.
[29:28]
So it was great to have that together.
[29:32]
As far as the school year goes, we've had a great kickoff.
[29:35]
Like everybody says the star times, you know,
[29:39]
everybody has made a great shift for the star times
[29:41]
and we, we can't go without talking about our PTA.
[29:45]
Our PTA puts a lot of work into making sure
[29:48]
that the students are welcomed.
[29:49]
We have our first welcome back event on the 18th
[29:53]
and everybody's already, already looking forward to that.
[29:56]
So the school year is off and running
[29:58]
and we're gonna be busy with, you know, night events,
[30:00]
PTA events, things, just getting kids welcome back to school
[30:04]
and excited about going to school.
[30:07]
And then last
[30:08]
but not least, I can't thank the teachers and staff enough.
[30:12]
They really are the ones that put every, you know,
[30:14]
put everything into the opening of the school.
[30:16]
They make it what it is,
[30:18]
and then the students, you know,
[30:20]
doing the routines like the other,
[30:22]
the other principals have talked about,
[30:23]
that's really important for the kids.
[30:25]
They know that they're taken care of.
[30:27]
They know that they're loved in these schools
[30:29]
and so that's why they're able to do so well.
[30:32]
When you feel comfortable to even make a mistake
[30:36]
and learn, that's really what going to school is all about.
[30:40]
So we're excited for a great school year.
[30:42]
We thank you guys for your support
[30:44]
and look forward to seeing you in a couple months.
[30:49]
Any questions for Dave? Alright. All right, thank you.
[30:52]
Thanks guys. Thank you. Just quickly, I, you know,
[30:56]
I want to thank the six of them.
[30:57]
I mean, principal is the hardest job in any school district.
[31:00]
I stand by that. I'll never think differently.
[31:04]
Every day's different, every minute,
[31:06]
hour could be different at certain times.
[31:09]
Dealing with adult problems, right?
[31:12]
Teacher problems, concerns, issues throughout the day,
[31:14]
dealing with parent issues, concerns,
[31:16]
problems throughout the day, dealing
[31:17]
with student issues throughout the day.
[31:20]
They are the lead manager of, of that facility,
[31:24]
but they are people pleasers, right?
[31:26]
So their job is to try
[31:27]
and solve all those things in a single day.
[31:29]
Some crazy stat bill I'm gonna make up right now.
[31:32]
But they make 3000 decisions a day
[31:33]
or something along those lines as principals.
[31:36]
But you know, it's, I've been here now 14, 15 months
[31:41]
and the dedication that that group puts in is,
[31:43]
is unmatched to where I've been.
[31:45]
So we wouldn't be able to sit up here
[31:47]
and do our jobs if it wasn't for you,
[31:48]
because of the front lines and,
[31:50]
and you work really well with our teachers
[31:51]
and our students and our families.
[31:52]
So thank you for all that hard work. I really appreciate
[31:54]
It.
[31:55]
Yeah, and I'd just like to add to that, thank you guys
[31:57]
for getting together and kudos to whoever put
[31:59]
that together for you guys.
[32:01]
That's, I mean, you guys carry the weight
[32:03]
to dairy on your shoulders.
[32:04]
You have the children, you have the future.
[32:07]
And the fact that you guys take that so seriously,
[32:10]
it's just, it's awesome.
[32:14]
It's been a year now that we've had you guys coming
[32:16]
with these updates in this format
[32:17]
and I mean, I think it's been a fantastic update, you know,
[32:20]
to our agenda to provide us
[32:22]
and the community with a look into what's going on at your
[32:25]
schools, all the great things that you're doing.
[32:27]
And good luck with the rest
[32:29]
of the fall and we'll see you soon.
[32:34]
You guys can go,
[32:38]
Hold on.
[32:39]
'cause I just wanna say thank you, thank you for helping
[32:42]
get South Range back on their feet without question.
[32:44]
That's goes above and beyond
[32:46]
and it just does show the kind of team that you have.
[32:49]
And it's amazing. I was able
[32:51]
to tour the four elementary schools and see the difference.
[32:55]
They haven't been to the middle school and the intermediate,
[32:57]
but the difference in the floors,
[33:00]
the difference in finally finishing those last
[33:02]
cubbies moved at East Area.
[33:03]
That was the best idea ever. It makes a big difference.
[33:07]
Just the floors alone make it so much brighter
[33:10]
and so much more welcoming.
[33:11]
And I also wanna recognize this, the custodians
[33:15]
and the maintenance people because it, it was a huge summer
[33:20]
and it shows in the building.
[33:22]
So thank you. But thank you to you guys as well.
[33:29]
All right. Alright, see you later, Faru. Yeah.
[33:30]
Thank you guys. It's a school night. Yeah.
[33:37]
All right. Our next order of business will be delegations
[33:39]
and individuals at this time.
[33:41]
Residents of dairy, parents of currently enrolled dairy
[33:43]
students and employees of the district may address the
[33:45]
school board on matters that pertain only to school
[33:47]
and district business for a period of time.
[33:48]
Not to exceed three minutes per person.
[33:51]
As a reminder, the board welcomes your input,
[33:53]
however questions are not
[33:54]
entertained during the comment period.
[33:56]
If you would like to speak, please come up
[33:57]
to the microphone at this time
[33:58]
and state your name and address for the record.
[34:01]
Brian, is that it?
[34:09]
Oh my goodness, you don't have to you. It's okay.
[34:13]
I can't help yourself.
[34:25]
Well, good evening. Oops. Can you hear me?
[34:28]
Yes, I knew you'd tell me if you couldn't.
[34:33]
Someone started that. I don't know who.
[34:35]
Well, you know, I worked around aircraft for 20 years, so
[34:39]
my hearing is not the best, you know,
[34:42]
and tonight I even sat in front, you know, so I didn't have
[34:46]
to, wouldn't take five minutes getting up.
[34:49]
But anyhow, my name is Richard Tripp
[34:52]
and I live at 44 Windham Road.
[34:57]
The, I wasn't here last
[35:00]
meeting for some reason.
[35:02]
I neglected to check the
[35:08]
so, but as I usually do,
[35:13]
I always check the school board page to see
[35:19]
what the agenda is and what the attachments are and,
[35:24]
and if the video has been posted.
[35:28]
So everything was fine.
[35:31]
And I found the school board go goals presentation
[35:36]
on the school board site.
[35:40]
So as I was watching the
[35:42]
video this afternoon, I thought it was great.
[35:45]
You guys are going through all the goals,
[35:48]
you've got this great presentation
[35:51]
and you never put it up on a big screen.
[35:56]
So I was wondering, well
[35:58]
it probably would've helped a lot in communicating.
[36:02]
I think that was one of the goals on page 10,
[36:08]
if you would've done that so people at home could see
[36:11]
what you were talking about.
[36:13]
But anyhow, so anyhow, the,
[36:19]
I listened to the, that's the only part
[36:21]
that I watched on the,
[36:26]
The video was the, the goal section
[36:29]
and the being is, I'm on the,
[36:32]
oh, I did notice that.
[36:36]
I remember when Mike showed up, he says,
[36:38]
there's gonna be no more acronyms.
[36:44]
And one of the principals
[36:48]
tonight, he says he's, he's really glad
[36:51]
that they had an opportunity to, to have the ESS.
[36:56]
Oh, yeah, yeah. And I just wanted, he did
[36:58]
Followed up with what it was called though.
[36:59]
What he did follow up with what it was called.
[37:02]
Well actually he said emotional support.
[37:05]
I don't, I think I thought there was two S's in ESS,
[37:11]
I don't recall.
[37:12]
Oh, Emotional student support.
[37:14]
Probably. It's effective School Solutions is the
[37:16]
Effective School Solutions. It's Oh, okay. Thank
[37:18]
You.
[37:19]
It's emotional school solutions. Effective
[37:20]
School Solutions.
[37:22]
Oh, effective. Oh, alright.
[37:24]
Well, like I said, is that a 50 cent fine or It's a dollar.
[37:33]
Always a dollar. Oh,
[37:36]
but Richard, the other thing was Richard, when they,
[37:39]
when they said they needed a prayer
[37:41]
Profession, Richard, your time is up.
[37:42]
So if you would like to request additional time,
[37:45]
I would like some extra time. Do
[37:47]
I have a motion to extend Mr.
[37:48]
Tripp's time? So moved first by Jamie.
[37:51]
Second. Second by Karen. All in favor? Aye. Aye.
[37:55]
All opposed. Motion passes. Six zero.
[37:58]
I'll try and be brief, but
[38:01]
that was such a great presentation that give a lot of ideas.
[38:08]
So anyhow, you know, yesterday was a primary
[38:12]
and I, I survived the calling of the herd, you know, so
[38:18]
maybe come November, I'll have one more term
[38:21]
and the state house and I'm gonna quit
[38:24]
after that. I, that's
[38:26]
What they all say. Yeah,
[38:28]
No, no, no, no.
[38:29]
I am getting old, you know,
[38:32]
and you know, when I graduated high school I wanted
[38:35]
to be a teacher, but unfortunately my, I had to go to work
[38:39]
for my uncle, uncle Sam.
[38:44]
And so maybe I'll, I'll
[38:47]
see if I can get hired as a paraprofessional.
[38:52]
But, so anyhow, on page five of the goals,
[38:57]
this is the finance where you're talking about the
[39:01]
fiscal advisory committee.
[39:05]
I think that we could have improved
[39:10]
what happened last year a lot if
[39:15]
what was gonna be discussed had been
[39:18]
provided to the advisory committee members prior
[39:21]
to the meeting, because you know, what was discussed
[39:27]
at the last meeting was that, you know, if,
[39:29]
if you're just wanting to volunteer
[39:31]
and you don't know anything about budgets
[39:33]
and whatever, it, it's hard to follow
[39:35]
and hard to know which questions to ask.
[39:38]
So, like I said, I would, when,
[39:41]
when you're going over the fiscal advisory that
[39:46]
what can be done to, you know, clarify the, the job
[39:51]
and what they do.
[39:53]
But if you could provide the material
[39:57]
that's gonna be discussed that night prior to the meeting,
[40:00]
I think you'll get a lot more questions.
[40:02]
'cause I remember that last year I was probably
[40:08]
asked, ask 95% of the questions that were asked, you know,
[40:14]
the, but it,
[40:19]
the, i the concept of letting people,
[40:24]
giving them some orientation on how to follow a a a budget
[40:30]
package is a good idea too, you know?
[40:34]
But, so anyhow, the,
[40:42]
I had some other comments,
[40:44]
but I, since I'm over time, I'll
[40:50]
probably
[40:54]
give you this one.
[40:55]
I was, I remember when I was talking with Maryanne,
[40:59]
I asked her what kind of kindergarten readiness assessment
[41:05]
the schools do prior to accepting
[41:10]
children in kindergarten.
[41:11]
Because, you know, some kids are not really ready
[41:15]
to go to kindergarten.
[41:17]
You know, when, when the one principal said
[41:19]
that they have four year olds going into kindergarten, I was
[41:24]
somewhat taken aback because I, I have a hard time believing
[41:28]
that four year olds are ready to be in kindergarten,
[41:32]
you know, and if the kids are not ready
[41:37]
to learn, it's gonna be a bad time for the rest
[41:40]
of their life because they'll probably just be
[41:43]
pushed in the first grade.
[41:45]
But, and
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so anyhow, thank you very much.
[41:53]
Thanks. It's been a pleasure talking to you.
[41:57]
Thank you.
[42:16]
Good evening everyone. Tom Cardin, two Cunningham Drive.
[42:19]
I will try and keep it under three minutes or so.
[42:22]
That was a, a great presentation by the principals.
[42:25]
Incidentally, you know,
[42:26]
especially they talked about all the, you know,
[42:29]
constructions that have gone on at their school
[42:30]
and pretty uplifting to, to see that.
[42:33]
And I, I agree with Mike.
[42:34]
I think they have the, the hardest job
[42:37]
that when I was a teacher, I never wanted to be a principal.
[42:40]
I love teaching, but, you know, they were very enthusiastic.
[42:43]
That was great. So anyway, I wanted
[42:47]
to talk about the town council meeting last week.
[42:50]
Two of the, of our state representatives, Leon
[42:54]
and Love, got up
[42:56]
and spoke to the town council about HB 1331,
[43:00]
which is gonna put the, wants to put the
[43:03]
school district under a town department.
[43:07]
And you know what they,
[43:09]
what they basically told the town was to that, you know,
[43:12]
either the, you know, town council puts it on the, on the,
[43:20]
On the, excuse me, sorry.
[43:22]
Either the town council puts it on the ballot in, in March
[43:26]
or they were gonna get signatures
[43:28]
and they were gonna put it on.
[43:31]
And I thought that was kind
[43:33]
of lousy the way they treated the, the town council on that.
[43:37]
You know, they, they talked about people coming up to 'em
[43:40]
and telling 'em that, you know,
[43:41]
they're concerned about losing their homes
[43:43]
and you know, one guy, you know, lived here 50 years
[43:47]
and is concerned about losing his, his home.
[43:50]
But what they, what they didn't say
[43:53]
was they didn't talk about the process.
[43:55]
They didn't talk about, you know, what's gonna happen
[43:58]
with the SAU?
[43:59]
Is that, is, is that gonna be dissolved?
[44:02]
And, you know, does Superintendent Flynn call the
[44:05]
Department of Education?
[44:07]
Say, Hey, listen, we're a town, you know, we're,
[44:10]
we're a town department, now we're dissolving, you know,
[44:13]
what happens with with Pinkerton?
[44:15]
Is Pinkerton gonna be subjected to the, to the tax cap?
[44:18]
I, I don't think so. They seem to be a private school.
[44:21]
So basically a third of the school budget is gonna be,
[44:25]
you know, we will not come under that.
[44:28]
And, you know, then, then again,
[44:30]
they didn't talk about the process and the, and the timing.
[44:33]
So, you know, those things all, all really concerned me.
[44:36]
And, you know, I would think if,
[44:38]
if they were gonna do something like this, I think the way
[44:40]
that they should have, have gone would be
[44:43]
to form a charter commission.
[44:44]
I think having a, at least having a charter commission,
[44:47]
we'd be having, oh, I think
[44:48]
I'm gonna go over my three minutes.
[44:50]
I think, I think at least having a charter commission
[44:54]
is gonna give, you know, all the residents a chance
[44:57]
to hear what's gonna happen.
[44:59]
And, you know, they'll come to meetings
[45:01]
and they'll have, they'll have input.
[45:03]
And I think that would probably be the, the better way.
[45:06]
And you know, I mean, basically what's happened is,
[45:09]
you know, they've, they've laid a lot of their, a lot
[45:12]
of work on, you know, on the, you know,
[45:14]
school administration and, and town administration.
[45:17]
So, can I have another minute?
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I have a motion to extend Tom's time by one minute.
[45:23]
So moved. Second by Jen. Second by Jamie in favor. Aye. Aye.
[45:27]
All opposed. Motion passes. Six zero. Go ahead.
[45:30]
All right. So anyway, you know,
[45:31]
it obviously it's gonna be a lot of work for, for you guys,
[45:35]
and I just wanted to, to read this was,
[45:37]
this was kind of interesting.
[45:39]
This is the, this was from
[45:42]
HB 49 B four dash three.
[45:44]
You don't need to know that. But it talks about the amended
[45:47]
analysis and it says, this bill enables the town council,
[45:50]
dairy town council to incorporate the dairy school district
[45:53]
as a department of the town through a charter amendment.
[45:57]
And then the analysis on the bo then it goes down
[45:59]
for another prayer, another sentence
[46:01]
that says it is a template
[46:03]
for neutering school district independence across the state.
[46:08]
And I thought that was, I don't,
[46:11]
I don't even have the word for it.
[46:13]
So anyway, thank you for your time
[46:16]
and you know, I I wish you a lot of luck,
[46:18]
especially getting all this information
[46:20]
out to everybody. Thanks.
[46:22]
Thank you, Tom. Thank you, Tom.
[46:40]
I too am as co-sponsor on HB
[46:45]
3 30 13 31.
[46:48]
And I, I got up
[46:53]
and spoke also, and I basically said
[46:58]
what Tom hinted at, that the,
[47:03]
the intent of this bill is to simply
[47:08]
have the tom have a,
[47:14]
the final say on the school budget there,
[47:18]
there's nothing in the bill that says we're taking over the,
[47:21]
the town is taking over the, the schools,
[47:24]
the schools are gonna con continue to run, you know,
[47:28]
the education program.
[47:32]
And oh, by the way, Richard Trip 44 Winter Road, sorry,
[47:38]
We got you the first time.
[47:39]
What? We got you the first time.
[47:41]
I know, but sometimes, anyhow,
[47:44]
I don't wanna talk too much.
[47:45]
But like I said, it's one of these things that, you know,
[47:49]
the idea is, is simply to give the
[47:56]
citizens dairy the option
[48:00]
of deciding whether they feel
[48:04]
the school budget could be better
[48:09]
managed by the town
[48:12]
rather than the schools.
[48:15]
'cause and that is, I I remember speaking with
[48:20]
several of the Democrats
[48:24]
and up at the State House
[48:25]
and they said, well, this is a bad thing.
[48:27]
And I go, this is democracy.
[48:30]
This is giving the people of the town the opportunity
[48:35]
to make a decision on how
[48:38]
the schools are gonna be funded and managed.
[48:41]
You know, and you guys talk about democracy all the time.
[48:45]
I, I feel that democracy is a good idea.
[48:48]
But Richard, quick question by, could you clarify,
[48:51]
when you say being run by the town
[48:54]
who would be running the school
[48:55]
budget, then the town council,
[48:57]
This town council would have the final say
[49:02]
on the school budget.
[49:05]
So instead of it being
[49:06]
Jenna, sorry, this is not a discussion period,
[49:09]
this is a time for Richard to make a statement. And
[49:11]
Then we can, my apologies if you, I I've spent some time
[49:17]
studying the, the way the Manchester school budget this.
[49:21]
Richard, you're almost outta your three minutes. So I'm
[49:23]
Gonna ask you, so I, you know, like I said, we're, we are
[49:27]
studying this in, in addition
[49:28]
because all this election is going
[49:32]
to do is determine whether the,
[49:37]
the people approve a charter commission as,
[49:40]
as Tom said, thank you.
[49:46]
All right. I think everyone has had their
[49:47]
opportunity to speak tonight.
[49:49]
So we will move on with the meeting.
[49:50]
However, the public comment period will remain open
[49:52]
until 7:33 PM if you wish to speak prior to that time,
[49:56]
approach the microphone and I'll recognize you
[49:57]
at the next break in the agenda.
[50:00]
Still no student updates tonight,
[50:01]
although I believe we will have a Pinkerton
[50:03]
representative very soon.
[50:07]
So we will move on to deliberations.
[50:09]
We have two items to consider tonight.
[50:11]
The first item is the RFQ for the sale
[50:13]
of the SAU building at 18 South Main Street.
[50:16]
The board received a proposed RFQ from the administration,
[50:18]
and I believe Mike and Jane will have a presentation for us.
[50:21]
Yeah, so this afternoon late to the packet
[50:25]
where we are waiting for legal to, to have a final look over
[50:29]
in your packet is a, it's an RFQ draft, right?
[50:33]
So there's been this discussion since we started on
[50:36]
what the best route was.
[50:37]
And then at the last meeting I had discussed with the board
[50:41]
that the recommendation from our legal
[50:42]
firm was to do an RFQ.
[50:43]
So an RFQ is a request for qualification
[50:48]
and the board can determine what the qualifiers are
[50:51]
for the people or the, the group, the person
[50:53]
or whoever can be qualified to sell 18 South Main Street.
[50:58]
So we, Jane and I did some comparisons of other districts.
[51:03]
They sent us their RF Qs of people that recently put land up
[51:07]
for sale or buildings up for sale.
[51:08]
And we did a little bit more detail oriented.
[51:10]
We thought it was, we thought it,
[51:12]
we thought we needed a little bit more detail
[51:14]
because we've heard through the committee work, Brenda,
[51:17]
about what it should and shouldn't be used for.
[51:19]
Should it stay, should it not stay? Who should we sell to?
[51:23]
So this is really basically soliciting a firm
[51:25]
or a person that has the qualifications
[51:27]
for commercial realistic.
[51:28]
So you would see that we were kind
[51:31]
of having them do some hard work upfront, which is the goal,
[51:36]
so that we know who we're gonna enter an agreement with.
[51:39]
So what their background is, if they're qualified,
[51:43]
maybe some history of purchases and sales.
[51:46]
This is really up to the board.
[51:48]
All we did was draft what we recommend
[51:53]
and then you guys get to kick it around this evening and
[51:55]
or na, each category, qualifications add, subtract.
[51:59]
We put an anticipated timeline on there.
[52:01]
I think that was important so that we can stick
[52:03]
to a schedule and move forward and move along.
[52:06]
But all that is up to you guys as the board as,
[52:08]
as we've said through legal, you guys get
[52:10]
to ultimately make the who we hire decision
[52:12]
and then really who we purchase.
[52:15]
Remember the one caveat is once we enter an agreement,
[52:17]
there is the charter school requirement that we have
[52:21]
to offer Final first ref refusal ref.
[52:23]
Thank you. So that's in your packet
[52:26]
for discussion for you guys tonight.
[52:29]
I even drafted a recommended motion so
[52:32]
that you guys had some path of guidance on that,
[52:37]
but I look forward to any questions or concerns
[52:40]
or objections, whatever it may be.
[52:44]
Thank you Mike. So we have a proposed RFQ.
[52:47]
I hope everyone has had the chance to take a look at it.
[52:49]
We have a recommendation for how
[52:50]
to move forward on the table.
[52:52]
So I'd open it up to the board for questions, discussion.
[53:01]
Anybody have any questions, comments?
[53:06]
I'll just say thanks for getting this done.
[53:07]
I appreciate it. I think it looks pretty comprehensive
[53:12]
to me, not a realtor, but from what I've can see
[53:16]
and having been through selling a piece
[53:19]
of property from the school district pre prior,
[53:23]
I think it looks pretty comp comprehensive
[53:27]
and hopefully we will have a good,
[53:29]
somebody good come out of this.
[53:31]
Yeah, our goal, we saw some rep,
[53:33]
some from other towns I think, and after Jane
[53:35]
and I discussed, we, we wanted
[53:37]
to make it a little bit more detail oriented so
[53:38]
that people knew that they were doing,
[53:39]
but more importantly, we were able to know
[53:41]
what we were doing towards the community, right?
[53:44]
There's no secrets here, right?
[53:46]
We, we have it all mapped out, this will go live,
[53:49]
everyone can digest it and then firms
[53:51]
or individuals can really say,
[53:52]
do I want to do that work or not?
[53:53]
Right? So that you're not getting someone that
[53:55]
that just says, we wanna purchase
[53:56]
and we need someone, then it's gonna
[53:58]
turn in some questions and answers.
[53:59]
So I feel like we're gonna, we're doing a,
[54:03]
a very fair process for anyone that really wants
[54:05]
to enter into an agreement with us.
[54:09]
Yeah, I thought you guys did a fantastic job on this.
[54:11]
You know, we want to, you know, move forward with this,
[54:14]
you know, the right way to get this taken care of
[54:16]
as quickly as we possibly can.
[54:17]
So I think this looks pretty good to me
[54:21]
as written questions.
[54:25]
Somebody gimme just one. Anyone gimme a question. No,
[54:29]
No, I'm just, I like the way it's all spelled out.
[54:31]
Great. You guys did a great job on that. Thank you. Alright,
[54:35]
I'm just curious, I'm just curious where this goes out to,
[54:39]
like you said it goes live on the website page
[54:42]
and then where does it go out as far as like
[54:45]
who views this where?
[54:47]
Yeah, so How does it get advertised?
[54:51]
That's a great question. So the, it goes onto our, and,
[54:53]
and then we, we have our contacts that we reach out to,
[54:57]
meaning it goes on to some of our listervs of people.
[55:03]
We also have to understand that we,
[55:04]
we can't solicit business.
[55:05]
So that, that's part of the requirements of an RFQ
[55:08]
or an RFP is that people normally are paying attention
[55:11]
or if they've been interested.
[55:12]
We've already received questions on this stuff.
[55:15]
I know someone on the board
[55:17]
that probably knows people that might be interested.
[55:19]
So all that stuff goes live, we,
[55:21]
but we don't solicit business
[55:23]
and just wanna be very clear on that.
[55:26]
I can tell you too, Jenna, people are already watching
[55:28]
this, you know, everybody knows that it's empty.
[55:32]
Yeah. So, so yeah. So, and people talk,
[55:35]
Well we talked to Mike Fowler, the community,
[55:37]
so he has those people.
[55:38]
Yeah. So all the right people will know. Yep.
[55:40]
And if you don't know then you aren't paying attention.
[55:43]
Yeah. I mean if you're a resident in town,
[55:45]
we voted to sell it.
[55:46]
Yep. So yeah, everyone should be aware if you know,
[55:49]
if you're a resident in dairy and a voter.
[55:54]
All right, if we have no other questions
[55:55]
or comments, I would accept a motion for the school board
[55:58]
to approve the proposed request for qualifications process
[56:01]
for commercial real estate brokerage services related
[56:03]
to the former SAU property at 18 South Main Street
[56:07]
and authorized the superintendent to finalize
[56:09]
and issue the RFQ subject to legal review.
[56:12]
So moved First by Brenda, second by Karen.
[56:15]
All in favor? Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. Six zero.
[56:19]
Awesome. We'll get that going.
[56:22]
All right, looking forward to it.
[56:25]
Second item tonight is gonna be the appointment
[56:27]
of a school district treasurer.
[56:29]
As you may recall, deputy treasurer Kathy Kennedy has been
[56:32]
serving as interim treasurer since the
[56:33]
resignation of Jason McLeod.
[56:35]
Kathy had been on the fence,
[56:36]
but she has decided to put in her application
[56:38]
for the treasurer position.
[56:40]
We've received no other application since the position
[56:42]
became available, so we're happy
[56:44]
to bring Kathy's nomination forward tonight.
[56:47]
Section RSA 1 95, section five,
[56:50]
paragraph two governs the position of treasurer
[56:52]
for cooperative school districts.
[56:54]
The law dictates that treasurers are to be appointed
[56:56]
by the school board for a term not
[56:57]
to exceed five years in an annual salary
[56:59]
to be determined by the school board.
[57:01]
Net salary has been budgeted at $2,000 a year
[57:05]
on top of state law.
[57:06]
This board has a policy BCC that further limits the term
[57:09]
of the treasurer to three years.
[57:12]
So like we did with the clerk position,
[57:13]
we're moving towards setting the term for this position
[57:15]
to align with the district's fiscal year
[57:17]
beginning on July 1st.
[57:19]
So for this appointment, we're asking for a term,
[57:21]
they would begin immediately with the appointment running
[57:23]
for the rest of this fiscal year
[57:24]
and the next two full fiscal years ending on
[57:27]
June 30th, 2029.
[57:30]
So anybody have any questions about this?
[57:32]
I just wanna thank her. She got into this kind
[57:36]
of unwillingly to start and then Jane
[57:40]
and David have been phenomenal at kind of coaching along
[57:43]
and honestly, you know, she kind of offered it.
[57:46]
So we're ecstatic to her to stay in the family,
[57:50]
quote unquote, and she's really bought into it.
[57:52]
So the good news is
[57:54]
by the next meeting we believe we'll have a deputy
[57:56]
treasurer for you as well.
[57:58]
So we're hot right now, we're gonna keep it going.
[58:01]
Yeah, I know when, when Jason first resigned,
[58:03]
the answer seemed like it was a hard no from, from Kathy.
[58:06]
So I'm glad she came around. Yep.
[58:10]
So if there are no other questions, I would accept a motion
[58:12]
to appoint Kathy Kennedy as the school district treasurer
[58:15]
for a term to run through June 30th, 2029 at an annual
[58:18]
salary of $2,000.
[58:20]
So, moved First by Jenna.
[58:22]
Second. Second by Jen. All in favor? Aye. Aye.
[58:27]
All opposed? Motion carries six zero.
[58:31]
So yeah, thank you again to Kathy for stepping up
[58:34]
and like Mike noted,
[58:35]
we do now have an opening for Deputy Treasurer.
[58:37]
Hopefully we will have a nomination for
[58:39]
that position pretty soon.
[58:44]
All right. Our next order of business
[58:46]
is administration report.
[58:47]
So first up will be Jane
[58:48]
with the business administrators update.
[58:52]
Sorry, it's my
[58:54]
Fault.
[58:55]
That's okay.
[58:58]
Didn't look like it was on. Okay.
[59:00]
So we've been busy in finance working.
[59:04]
We've had auditors in the district Tuesday, Wednesday.
[59:08]
They will yesterday, today
[59:11]
and the loss will be here tomorrow for the full day.
[59:14]
We also have been working on, as I've mentioned
[59:17]
before, the DOE 25, the full financial reflection
[59:21]
of the prior school year.
[59:24]
And also working on our MS 24,
[59:26]
which is our report on revenues that we'll need to go
[59:30]
to the Department of Revenue.
[59:32]
And it's used for, it's also be used for tax rate setting.
[59:35]
So we've also, you know, we had our committee meeting
[59:41]
and we talked about presenting the update
[59:44]
for the bond project and I'll bring it at the next meeting.
[59:47]
We only had a few very small bills that were paid
[59:50]
and they were paid right up until
[59:52]
before I left for the meeting.
[59:53]
So we just didn't have a, a chance to update the report.
[59:56]
So we'll bring that to the next August,
[1:00:00]
next September meeting.
[1:00:04]
That's it unless anybody has any questions. Short
[1:00:06]
And sweet questions for Jamie.
[1:00:07]
That's sweet. Short and sweet. Alright. Mike, you're up.
[1:00:10]
Yeah. So a couple things.
[1:00:12]
First is our five six athletic busing.
[1:00:18]
I've received a few emails from parents and,
[1:00:19]
and Danielle's done a phenomenal job of,
[1:00:21]
of feeling those questions as well.
[1:00:23]
So we've had a challenge and I just, I wanna go on record.
[1:00:26]
We've actually just had a challenge finding a driver, right?
[1:00:29]
So those are some challenges that we're trying
[1:00:30]
to run a shuttle in between boys and girls club.
[1:00:33]
We were working with them, but that wasn't gonna time up.
[1:00:36]
Good news is they ran a practice run today.
[1:00:40]
They're gonna run another practice run tomorrow.
[1:00:41]
And we believe that we'll be launching a five six shuttle
[1:00:44]
for those student athletes that need to get in
[1:00:46]
between starting next week.
[1:00:49]
Tomorrow. They are picking up the boys soccer team
[1:00:52]
and the girls cross country team.
[1:00:54]
No, not girls, it's just cross country.
[1:00:57]
So those are all starting to get into motion.
[1:00:59]
We just wanna thank the, the bus company
[1:01:01]
and the drivers that are essentially adding onto their
[1:01:04]
routes for the end of the day there.
[1:01:05]
But we think Clifton's done a great job working with that
[1:01:09]
to busing in general.
[1:01:10]
It's been a, it's been a challenging opening year
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and as a point of reference as I've been working with DEA
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and our own building and,
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and things like that, we have nothing
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to compare this year to, right.
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So all of these runs
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that our bus drivers are making are brand new,
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as Bill alluded to.
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Even though his number might be fake,
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all the rider ships up.
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So that's continued reevaluation of those routes,
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even though we're nearly 10 days in, we feel today.
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Do you have a timeline when it cleared today,
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by chance you had been keeping track?
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Yeah, I wasn't. Okay.
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So the, it's been getting better every day
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and we've been making alter alterations to those runs.
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Several parents, one spoke last meeting about an
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evaluation of stops.
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Those are all included on
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what we're trying to continue to do.
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And then we'll send out a communication
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to those individual families along with other ones
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that we may have had challeng, the morning seems to be down,
[1:02:05]
we're still running into some afternoon
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unintended consequences.
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So traffic circle when we were out 20,
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30 minutes earlier last time.
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So them returning.
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So just, I wanted the board to be aware, aware
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of we're still working through it,
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but it's been getting better each day.
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We feel pretty good about where we're going.
[1:02:25]
We are full in budget season in our world.
[1:02:27]
So, Jane, Jeremy, Carrie
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and I met for quite some time today, met
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with the principals last Thursday.
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They're doing the department budgets with the goals of
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what the board has discussed publicly, trying to find
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that target, I've said it on record,
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we need to show restraint this year.
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We need to show proper budgeting.
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I'm gonna continue to say that.
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So year over year, we don't wanna have spikes,
[1:02:47]
we don't wanna have huge laws.
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We wanna just become a, a predictable budget each year
[1:02:52]
so the, the community knows what's coming.
[1:02:54]
Facilities, we talked about the capital improvement plan
[1:02:58]
being released, that's gonna happen at the next meeting.
[1:03:00]
So we have a lot of these projectors
[1:03:01]
that are gonna be coming into place.
[1:03:03]
So what Mr.
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Trip has said this year through the fiscal advisory,
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we really intend on communicating the purpose behind it,
[1:03:11]
but having the documents prepared so that the,
[1:03:15]
the advisory committee can digest those
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and come prepared so that it's not more
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of a learning session on the go.
[1:03:20]
So we're doing a lot of that work ahead of time.
[1:03:23]
And then facilities, it came up as well
[1:03:28]
with the bond and the money and the interest earned.
[1:03:32]
We've been working already with legal counsel on
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how do you hit those next things on the list.
[1:03:37]
That was part of probably just Brenda
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and Michael on that initial bond that went out.
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The larger number, 50 something
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million, somewhere on those lines.
[1:03:47]
Yeah. So we're getting those jobs lined up
[1:03:49]
because the law allows you to, to check off boxes
[1:03:52]
with saved money on what was discussed publicly.
[1:03:55]
So we're gonna create that list that's gonna come
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to the board for full discussion
[1:03:58]
that came out of facilities.
[1:04:01]
And then tomorrow our assistant principals are the,
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the new bullying law that you guys adopted two weeks ago.
[1:04:10]
The, our legal firm's coming tomorrow
[1:04:12]
to do a full in-depth training on the new requirements
[1:04:15]
and the new necessities to make sure that we are in align
[1:04:17]
with it, along with updating our forms.
[1:04:20]
So looking forward to that, which is,
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which is always exciting.
[1:04:24]
Onto the two big topics
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that are sublist out there on the agenda.
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I'm gonna skip ahead 'cause I think the town council will be
[1:04:31]
more of a discussion, but, oh, sorry, it's not on here.
[1:04:34]
It's in my brain. So 1300, 1300
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is gonna be on,
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might be on the November election ballot, right?
[1:04:44]
So 13 hundred's, the one that's proposing a tax cap
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for all districts statewide.
[1:04:49]
We had a statewide legal training
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and it only made things worse.
[1:04:57]
So right now there is an emergency, I'll call it a lawsuit,
[1:05:02]
against the, the order specifically around the language
[1:05:05]
of the, the, the ballot
[1:05:08]
or the warrant article that's going on the ballot
[1:05:10]
and how it's misleading to the voter.
[1:05:12]
So that's gonna be a thing
[1:05:13]
that's gonna happen in the courts.
[1:05:15]
The other interesting part,
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'cause it was a statewide training.
[1:05:17]
We had representatives from New Hampshire
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Department of Education on the call.
[1:05:21]
We had attorneys on the call,
[1:05:23]
and there's discrepancies in the math that's presented.
[1:05:27]
So the state saying that it's one number,
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which would only do a 1.039 increase in your budget
[1:05:33]
as a tax cap, whereas the legal firms are interpreting it
[1:05:37]
as a 4.39, a one plus inflation number.
[1:05:41]
When we brought up the discussion
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and someone said, well, we should reach out to DRA,
[1:05:46]
the response that we got from DRA, which is the Department
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of Revenue Administration, is that they are not allowed
[1:05:52]
to provide any guidance at this time.
[1:05:54]
So a lot of these districts are just, as I said,
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it hasn't gotten any easier.
[1:06:01]
So for me to sit here and try
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and advise the board on any form
[1:06:04]
or fashion, I wouldn't be giving any type of good opinion.
[1:06:08]
The other part that came up is the default budget.
[1:06:10]
So if the default budget is higher than the tax
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cap, what do you do then?
[1:06:16]
And so there was no guidance
[1:06:18]
because the default is if it could be a way
[1:06:21]
that the budget fails, but if it fails,
[1:06:23]
but it's above the tax cap,
[1:06:24]
do you then slice the default budget,
[1:06:25]
which is the minimum requirements plus one time,
[1:06:29]
you know, expenders reduced.
[1:06:30]
So that wasn't clearly articulated.
[1:06:33]
And then the other one that's out there is
[1:06:35]
that districts are preparing,
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because this isn't our ballot, right?
[1:06:39]
This isn't the school district ballot in no means no
[1:06:41]
in school district voting.
[1:06:43]
So districts are preparing counter
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votes for their election in March
[1:06:51]
to override the November election.
[1:06:54]
All of these things are out here in play on
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what to do, how to do it.
[1:07:00]
If I'm sitting here trying to give you just a quick, the,
[1:07:02]
the biggest problem that we're having
[1:07:03]
is what's the math gonna be?
[1:07:05]
Right? There's a big difference between 1.039 and 4.39.
[1:07:10]
Significant difference if,
[1:07:12]
if you're telling a school district specifically ascending
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district, in which last year Pinkerton won up alone, 3%,
[1:07:18]
three points, somewhere around there,
[1:07:20]
that means we're still gonna have
[1:07:21]
to find another 2% on ARC K to eight side.
[1:07:23]
So the math is the challenge.
[1:07:26]
I think the other stuff that we talked about's all up
[1:07:28]
for interpretation, but we need some guidance from the
[1:07:31]
state, from DRA
[1:07:35]
because when you have attorneys saying one thing in
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New Hampshire Education Department saying another,
[1:07:40]
that doesn't make our job any easier
[1:07:41]
and it doesn't make us help the boards any easier,
[1:07:43]
so, Hmm.
[1:07:46]
That's the update on 1300 not great update meaning?
[1:07:51]
Yeah, I mean it's incredibly
[1:07:53]
frustrating when you look at the way this question is worded
[1:07:57]
and you know, we're sitting here today, it's September 9th,
[1:08:00]
you know, we've got less than two months
[1:08:01]
until we could see a vote on this.
[1:08:03]
And there's no consensus from the state on
[1:08:05]
what the question means.
[1:08:08]
So, you know, I mean, communication, communication.
[1:08:11]
So, I mean, this is the question
[1:08:13]
that the law mandates is gonna be on the ballot in November
[1:08:15]
pending this lawsuit.
[1:08:16]
Of course, it shall the town
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of Derry limit property tax growth
[1:08:21]
for the Dairy Cooperative school district under RSA 32,
[1:08:24]
section five I if adopted for a two year period,
[1:08:27]
the property tax levy may not grow
[1:08:29]
beyond the prior year's amount adjusted for inflation
[1:08:32]
and new construction,
[1:08:34]
SAU central office spending may not exceed 6%
[1:08:37]
of total school district appropriations
[1:08:38]
and bonded capital costs are excluded from both limits.
[1:08:42]
These caps apply only to administrative operations
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of the SAU central office
[1:08:47]
and do not affect classroom instruction,
[1:08:49]
school-based services or other municipal expenditures.
[1:08:52]
These limits may be overridden as provided in RSA 32.
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Section five I adoption requires a
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three-fifths majority vote.
[1:09:01]
So yeah, and I don't even want to get into the detailed part
[1:09:04]
where it says the SAU cost, which is 6% again,
[1:09:08]
which I just wanna be clear, this is all fine.
[1:09:10]
Like we're not, we're not worried about control costs.
[1:09:13]
That's not where we're, we're, we're just trying to,
[1:09:15]
we're trying to make sure we do it appropriately
[1:09:16]
because it's my job.
[1:09:19]
But the 6%, when we were getting, when we were in
[1:09:21]
that training, it was amazing what interpreting
[1:09:25]
what was in an SAU budget.
[1:09:26]
Because there are some things that we don't have in our SAU,
[1:09:29]
but now they're gonna force it into that line.
[1:09:31]
And then there are some things that we budget
[1:09:33]
for at the school side that maybe become part of the SAU,
[1:09:37]
that interpretation was off.
[1:09:39]
And then to draw an assumption that it wouldn't impact
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school or kids.
[1:09:46]
That's a tough assumption too,
[1:09:47]
because specifically I'll keep saying
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specifically ascending school,
[1:09:53]
let's say pinkerton's insurance rate go up
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10%, they gotta make up a difference.
[1:09:57]
Let's say they just go up for fun, four point half percent
[1:10:00]
that's still gonna make us on the K to eight side,
[1:10:02]
have to make up that cost.
[1:10:03]
And that cost isn't just sitting in an SAU line, right?
[1:10:06]
There isn't enough cost to make that up in NSAU line
[1:10:09]
that will then go into how you operate your school district.
[1:10:13]
So I'll say there's a lot of interpret.
[1:10:16]
I'm trying to be very nice,
[1:10:17]
like the interpretation out
[1:10:18]
there that we still have to work through.
[1:10:20]
But I find it challenging for us in four meetings.
[1:10:24]
I have to advise the board, the board has
[1:10:26]
to make some decisions and conclusions.
[1:10:28]
We have to communicate it to the public appropriately,
[1:10:31]
get the right information so
[1:10:33]
that people feel informed on a ballot that people are going
[1:10:37]
to the box for, not for schools rather for
[1:10:42]
senate seats and representatives.
[1:10:44]
And then there's gonna be a school question on like,
[1:10:48]
as you can see as I'm working through this out loud, it,
[1:10:50]
it becomes more challenging for you guys as a group.
[1:10:53]
I have, I have three questions after he read that.
[1:10:56]
My first question is, oh, maybe
[1:10:57]
before one, was this applicable just to dairy
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or this was across statewide?
[1:11:01]
Statewide. Every community will have it on
[1:11:03]
The ballot.
[1:11:04]
Second, you said that it's two years.
[1:11:06]
So this would come back onto a ballot every two years to be
[1:11:11]
Re voted on in the November elections? Yes. Okay.
[1:11:13]
And then the last line you said was
[1:11:15]
that this may be overridden.
[1:11:17]
Is that what you were talking about?
[1:11:18]
Is the possibility of it going on to a march ballot
[1:11:21]
for the town to then override the state's?
[1:11:24]
Yes. It's part of the interpretations.
[1:11:27]
I have to keep saying interpretation. Okay.
[1:11:28]
Just like with the tax cap statutes
[1:11:30]
that you already have on the ballot.
[1:11:32]
Yeah. If you're operating under a tax cap,
[1:11:34]
the tax cap can be overridden with a super majority vote.
[1:11:38]
Yeah. Okay. So it's the same concept.
[1:11:41]
And then we have a third challenge
[1:11:42]
as we people have spoke to tonight.
[1:11:45]
So let's say, let's say that this goes to ballot,
[1:11:50]
it's voted on and approved by the November election.
[1:11:54]
Then we have our 1331 on, which is another, as Mr.
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Tripp said. It's just, it's the start of the process.
[1:11:59]
It's not just a hammer. But then which one is like,
[1:12:03]
those are kind of competing as well on certain things.
[1:12:05]
So we have our work cut out for us as, as,
[1:12:09]
as both of them have mentioned.
[1:12:10]
And we have our first statewide superintendents meeting on
[1:12:14]
Friday, which we'll be getting an update as an entire state.
[1:12:17]
And the new Department of education will be there.
[1:12:19]
So I anticipate that being a large discussion point
[1:12:21]
for how we handle these things.
[1:12:24]
So, so I have a question.
[1:12:25]
If, if they can't provide any guidance at this time
[1:12:30]
for this, when are they going to, I mean,
[1:12:34]
Well, I guess is as good as ours.
[1:12:36]
I mean, I know, I know you're,
[1:12:37]
I know you're asking a good question
[1:12:38]
that I don't have that answer. It's just,
[1:12:40]
Yeah.
[1:12:41]
Well I think Friday will be a good point.
[1:12:42]
'cause again, all a hundred of us will be in a room together
[1:12:45]
and and Caitlin will be there.
[1:12:46]
The, the commissioner. So we
[1:12:48]
Is that hoping is, that's not a live or a zoom in
[1:12:51]
Anything. No, that's, that's our,
[1:12:52]
That's our own conversation.
[1:12:53]
So when will we hear the fallout from that?
[1:12:55]
I'll give you an update after that.
[1:12:56]
I can, I can email you if
[1:12:57]
anything relevant comes out of it for sure.
[1:12:59]
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:13:01]
I mean, from our perspective, you know, we need to
[1:13:04]
put some sort of messaging together
[1:13:05]
that's gonna tell our constituents
[1:13:07]
how this question is going to impact their schools.
[1:13:10]
And we can't do that if we don't know
[1:13:14]
what the impact of the question's gonna be.
[1:13:15]
Not. Yeah. One of the questions in our training was,
[1:13:17]
can a board, 'cause it's not our ballot
[1:13:20]
and it's actually not the town's ballot.
[1:13:22]
We gotta keep that in mind.
[1:13:23]
This is, this is this attorney
[1:13:25]
general, it's the state's ballot.
[1:13:27]
But can each board put on voting in favor or not?
[1:13:30]
Like what's recommended under the article
[1:13:31]
that no one knew that answer either.
[1:13:33]
I mean, the guess is probably no,
[1:13:35]
since it's not our ballot in any way form or fashion.
[1:13:39]
So this doesn't help any of you,
[1:13:42]
but I just, I just wanted, I wanted to tell you where we sit
[1:13:45]
and we're attending everything we can.
[1:13:47]
Did you guys take anything, anything else?
[1:13:49]
More than I feel free? No. Okay.
[1:13:51]
I'm sure they didn't wanna step in that either.
[1:13:53]
But it, it's, I mean, just to look at this question,
[1:13:55]
you know, you step into the ballot box on election day
[1:13:58]
and you know, you have to make a decision on this.
[1:14:00]
I mean, just for me, looking at this, there are
[1:14:03]
so many unanswered questions.
[1:14:04]
You know, there's so many things going on here.
[1:14:06]
You know, you've got the, the only thing that's clear
[1:14:09]
to me is that bonded capital costs would be excluded
[1:14:12]
from the, the tax cap.
[1:14:14]
Yep. That's about the only thing in this entire question
[1:14:16]
that makes any sense.
[1:14:18]
Which would actually help us. Right? Yeah.
[1:14:21]
That's a, that'd be a benefit quote unquote for us.
[1:14:23]
Beyond that, you've got two caps.
[1:14:25]
You've got one limiting the local property tax levy
[1:14:27]
to the prior year's amount adjusted for inflation
[1:14:30]
and new construction, whatever.
[1:14:32]
Yep. That math. It's math. Yep.
[1:14:35]
And, and then you have one limiting the SAU central office
[1:14:39]
spending to 6% of the total budget.
[1:14:41]
And then you have this last sentence that says,
[1:14:42]
these caps only apply
[1:14:44]
to administration administrative
[1:14:45]
operations of the SAU office.
[1:14:48]
So it's not clear to me reading this
[1:14:51]
what it is that we're capping.
[1:14:53]
Are we capping the overall property tax levies?
[1:14:56]
So the entire net assessment,
[1:14:58]
are we somehow separating out the central office
[1:15:00]
operations and only capping that?
[1:15:03]
And, you know, what are we even consider
[1:15:05]
to be central office operations?
[1:15:07]
That was, that's, that's the confusion.
[1:15:10]
That's the confusion and the list that we received. Right?
[1:15:14]
So transportation
[1:15:16]
of the students is normally an SAU cost, right?
[1:15:20]
So that's our obligation to get K to eight students to
[1:15:24]
and from school within one mile of their house.
[1:15:26]
Right? But then they were saying how IT director
[1:15:33]
was in, but then the IT staff were out.
[1:15:38]
My god. But the curriculum director
[1:15:43]
could partly be in, but partly out.
[1:15:48]
But all special ed people were in like Laura,
[1:15:53]
but then the assistants were out.
[1:15:56]
So trying to differentiate all that, again,
[1:15:59]
I keep saying like there's an equation in a
[1:16:01]
math issue that we have here.
[1:16:02]
'cause we just want to play by the rules,
[1:16:04]
but we don't, I don't think we have a very clear
[1:16:06]
line of what the rules are.
[1:16:08]
But if DRA doesn't know how,
[1:16:10]
is anybody else supposed to know?
[1:16:11]
I Did you take a screenshot of that? I did. I did. Yeah.
[1:16:14]
I mean, just, we all were like, that can't be real.
[1:16:18]
But we, we did,
[1:16:19]
because I'm like, they,
[1:16:20]
they literally said they cannot
[1:16:21]
advise us in any form or fashion.
[1:16:23]
Who, who is it that gets to determine this breakdown?
[1:16:27]
I think that's what's gonna happen in the courts.
[1:16:29]
Like, I, I, I don't know
[1:16:33]
Because at the end I understand, you know, making a, a,
[1:16:36]
a bill, but like if there's no higher up of who gets
[1:16:41]
to do a breakdown,
[1:16:43]
then it sounds like it comes down to each.
[1:16:45]
I, I, I really, I'm, I'm well, I'm obviously just
[1:16:48]
as lost as you guys are.
[1:16:50]
Sure.
[1:16:51]
So normally when, when bills come out
[1:16:53]
or new laws come in place, there's, you know, you get,
[1:16:57]
you get advice from the Department
[1:16:59]
of Education on how to proceed.
[1:17:00]
You get N-H-S-B-A, whether it's maybe a policy,
[1:17:05]
this one is this one.
[1:17:07]
It feels like there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen and,
[1:17:10]
and no one knows who the head chef is to answer
[1:17:13]
what the ingredients are.
[1:17:14]
So it's been challenging. Okay.
[1:17:17]
I'll tell you what's also kinda scary about this, right?
[1:17:19]
So let's say our net assessment is limited to the rate
[1:17:22]
of inflation, you know,
[1:17:24]
and that's one of our revenue sources,
[1:17:27]
our other revenue sources.
[1:17:28]
We're lucky if they even keep up with the rate of inflation.
[1:17:31]
I mean, Danielle, you can correct me if I'm wrong,
[1:17:33]
but like our state adequacy has actually gone down a year
[1:17:37]
over year, the past few years.
[1:17:39]
So like, I feel like you're getting hit from both sides.
[1:17:42]
You're gonna be where we usually have our
[1:17:46]
state adequacy aid that has been going down year over year,
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the past couple of years.
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Obviously it's not, not keeping up with the rate inflation,
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it's literally negative.
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And then we've been having to make up with that for
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that loss with increased taxation.
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So if we're on the one side now, we're now limited
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to this tax cap at the rate of inflation.
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I mean, that could become a huge problem. Yeah.
[1:18:12]
What's the, what's the one, what's the one revenue
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that we continue to lose? It's called something funny.
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Medicaid? No, The remember it's
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called like the unharmed.
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Oh, the hold Harmless. Harmless.
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Well that's because, yeah, they changed
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the formula a few years ago.
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Less on that too. And the hold harmless is
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to help districts like us who are hit the hardest
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by these changes to the formula to phase into these changes.
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And yeah. And that is a big part of why ar
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state adequacy has been going down.
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Yeah. And I, I have to just emphasize like,
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being ascending district is very,
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very different than someone that own, like if I'm in hopton,
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I'm staring at this totally different.
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'cause I have all of my control costs, everything is mine.
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Being ascending district, we, we lose a significant, a third
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of our budget is really uncontrolled.
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I mean, I've only been working with Pinton for a year
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and I think they did a great job of,
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of being respectful of what's going on.
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But that, that changes year to year two.
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So we have to be cognizant that a third
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of our budget is uncontrollable
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and that we K eight have to make up
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that difference every year.
[1:19:23]
And so if the, if the number is 1.039,
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I think that's a really big different discussion.
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But if the number's 4.39, that's, that's all.
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Again, that's achievable to me. That's all.
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That's what we're trying here. That's what our goals are.
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That's all restraint. But, and
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Pancreatin is not affected by this, correct?
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No, they, because they're semi-private
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Only they're goodwill.
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You know, I mean, you would hope that they would see if all
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of their sending towns are impacted by this,
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that they would, you know, try to help us out.
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But they don't have to. Well, we're, if we're going down
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that lane, like we're also a different boat.
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We send the most kids, we don't, we're not,
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we can't really go shopping.
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But if you're, you know, if you're one of the smaller towns
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that only sends 25 a hundred, you,
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you could then go shopping and be like, all right,
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we can't keep up with pinkerton's inflation.
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We gotta go somewhere else and make a deal. Which
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Then hits us again.
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Yeah. Again, sure. 'cause it'll raise the price of our kids.
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'cause there'll be less kids. Yeah.
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So we're, we're, I just, we're in a different boat than
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all a hundred percent controlled.
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Okay. Sorry, I just bring up that topic.
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So to transition, I'll go to fiscal advisor quickly.
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'cause if you wanna talk about town council,
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those dates are in there.
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Kathleen May or may not have sent 'em out yet.
[1:20:38]
I think she wanted you guys to look at 'em first
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before we send 'em out to committee members.
[1:20:41]
We did it a little bit different this year from
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the feedback from everyone.
[1:20:44]
We booked solid dates throughout the season
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and more importantly,
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I wanna talk about the targeted approach that we chose.
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So that Tuesday is really,
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I'll call it a level set slash training.
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We'll get documents in people's hands, discuss the review,
[1:21:03]
discuss you know, what really shifts a budget, what can be,
[1:21:08]
you know, my phrases are needle movers.
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I think Mr. Tripp said it several times
[1:21:11]
in his questions last year.
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But then you get into the first presentation on
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October 20th, then you have a board meeting in between.
[1:21:20]
We get to come back and kick it around as a,
[1:21:22]
a fiscal advisory group.
[1:21:23]
But more importantly, that date is
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after the election, right, Michael?
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So November 5th, is that after? That is after, right?
[1:21:31]
I think the date, yeah, I think the,
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yeah, the election is Tuesday.
[1:21:34]
Yeah. So we chose that Thursday so that we can regroup
[1:21:38]
on the impact of what 1300 may
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or may not have had as a fiscal advisory group.
[1:21:43]
Then we go back, of course my
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folder just closed, so I'm gonna go old school
[1:21:51]
and go paper come back for that December 3rd.
[1:21:55]
So that's after the Pinkerton numbers.
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They normally come out around Thanksgiving.
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And then last year, the, the fiscal advisory,
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we did not have a second December meeting,
[1:22:03]
but some feedback was people felt kind of pressed in
[1:22:07]
that first December meeting.
[1:22:08]
So we put it on the books in case we want to come back
[1:22:11]
depending on what's going on.
[1:22:12]
So all of those meetings will be at
[1:22:15]
the new professional learning center, at the new SAU so
[1:22:18]
that our community can start to see
[1:22:20]
what we have going on there. Some questions,
[1:22:23]
The training, is that just for everybody
[1:22:26]
that's on the fiscal
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Advisory committee?
[1:22:28]
It'll be for the board and the fiscal advisory committee.
[1:22:29]
Okay. Yep. It's open to the public.
[1:22:31]
But yeah, it's, it'll be a training
[1:22:32]
session directed for the members. Yeah.
[1:22:34]
Will they be recording it? Dairy cam? Yeah. Okay, good.
[1:22:37]
Because I won't be here, so. Sure.
[1:22:40]
Yep. Any questions on that?
[1:22:46]
Alright, last, this is more about discussion.
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Michael, do you want to take the lead on this?
[1:22:50]
The joint one? Yeah.
[1:22:52]
So we, in two weeks
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before our next meeting at five 30, we're having a workshop
[1:22:59]
with the town council.
[1:23:01]
So we wanted to take this opportunity during Mike's update
[1:23:05]
to hear from the rest of the board on
[1:23:08]
possible agenda topics, things
[1:23:09]
that you think we should be discussing with the town.
[1:23:13]
I mean, I think, you know, it's pretty clear
[1:23:17]
what the number one topic is gonna be.
[1:23:19]
You know, Mr. Carden brought it up earlier.
[1:23:22]
You know, we're gonna be wanting
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to talk about this possible vote on a charter amendment
[1:23:25]
to consolidate the schools as a town department.
[1:23:28]
You know, I think that's gonna dominate the discussion.
[1:23:30]
We need to talk this out with our counterparts on the
[1:23:32]
council, make sure we all understand.
[1:23:34]
If this were to come to pass, what is it gonna look like?
[1:23:37]
I mean, I think that's one of the, the points was that
[1:23:40]
it hasn't really been discussed.
[1:23:42]
If this were to happen, what would it look like?
[1:23:44]
You know, what would your role be as a superintendent?
[1:23:48]
What would the school board's role be? You know?
[1:23:50]
'cause I mean, when you look at cities that are organized
[1:23:54]
with the school department, you know,
[1:23:56]
there is still a school board.
[1:23:58]
They, you know, they,
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and it's the, the city council, in this case,
[1:24:03]
it would be the town council that sets the
[1:24:05]
overall budget number.
[1:24:06]
But it's the school board and the superintendent
[1:24:07]
that decides how that money is spent now, I mean,
[1:24:12]
I don't understand why we're going through the trouble
[1:24:14]
of consolidating the school district into a school
[1:24:17]
department just to have a tax cap when we could just have
[1:24:19]
a vote on a tax cap.
[1:24:21]
But, you know, here we are. Yeah.
[1:24:24]
Mike Fowler and I met for about,
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I wanna say about an hour the other day,
[1:24:28]
and kind of started to work through scenarios.
[1:24:31]
I guess that's the easiest way.
[1:24:32]
And we were kind of already ahead of it.
[1:24:33]
Mike had brought the idea up in May in regards to like,
[1:24:36]
the consolidation of benefits,
[1:24:38]
if HealthTrust would even do it for us.
[1:24:40]
We're running those scenarios.
[1:24:41]
But, you know, I don't, I'm not gonna go on record on, on,
[1:24:45]
on some of our concerns.
[1:24:46]
I think that discussion needs to happen amongst both boards.
[1:24:50]
But trying to discuss the consolidation of hr, I mean,
[1:24:54]
we have 608 employees.
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That's the town can't handle that processing, that payroll,
[1:24:59]
those payments, you know, that's just one area.
[1:25:03]
So it, it'll be an interest discussion amongst the,
[1:25:06]
you know, elected officials of the town and the community.
[1:25:08]
You know, Mike and I are just, we are,
[1:25:11]
we are your employee, right?
[1:25:12]
So Mike and the town council and me and the board.
[1:25:14]
So how you guys work things out
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or scenarios that you want run, you know, we've, we've kind
[1:25:20]
of talked it out, but it, it's, I think Tom, you know, Mr.
[1:25:24]
Carne did a great job. It's like,
[1:25:26]
what are the results of this?
[1:25:27]
Right? It's, it's kind of, it's there's, there's,
[1:25:32]
it's not as simple as we just go under the town council
[1:25:35]
and then everything consolidates,
[1:25:39]
or there's a reduction in cost necessarily.
[1:25:43]
Right? It's two totally different worlds
[1:25:47]
of municipalities.
[1:25:49]
So I'm looking forward to that discussion.
[1:25:54]
Yeah, I mean, I think we need to, you know,
[1:25:56]
talk this all out with our counterparts on the council,
[1:25:58]
you know, make sure we all understand, you know, how
[1:26:01]
that we approach this with our constituents.
[1:26:04]
You know, we all have a, a unique view into what the outcome
[1:26:08]
of something like this is gonna be.
[1:26:10]
And, you know, we have a duty to our constituents
[1:26:12]
to keep them informed
[1:26:13]
and, you know, tell them our opinion of doing these jobs
[1:26:17]
and understanding what these jobs are, what the impact
[1:26:20]
of this is gonna be.
[1:26:23]
Yeah. Would would the, yeah,
[1:26:28]
I mean, I, I can go down something like,
[1:26:30]
we talked about mowing, we talked about snow removal,
[1:26:32]
we talked about management of properties.
[1:26:34]
What about break-ins at ours? Can you speak up please?
[1:26:36]
Sorry. So there's, there's multiple layers
[1:26:41]
of property management alone.
[1:26:45]
Does the town have that capacity?
[1:26:46]
Do then, then do we, yeah.
[1:26:51]
It sounds like you guys discussed efficiencies across the
[1:26:53]
town and schools in terms of management of Sure.
[1:26:55]
Parking lots and buildings
[1:26:57]
and all those types of things. Just,
[1:26:59]
Just facilities, right.
[1:27:00]
Not even getting into the depths of payroll, right.
[1:27:04]
Benefits New Hampshire retirements
[1:27:08]
for the, for the different classes.
[1:27:10]
There's, there's a whole lot of
[1:27:14]
educational management that we do
[1:27:16]
as an administrative unit out of the SAU
[1:27:19]
and then there's municipality management.
[1:27:22]
It's significantly different.
[1:27:23]
So it's not just a cross train, right?
[1:27:25]
You don't just drop in how we, how we do payroll
[1:27:28]
and how their hourly rates are computed.
[1:27:31]
So it would take a significant amount of time and effort.
[1:27:33]
Yeah. Sorry Brenda. That's
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All right.
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All of those are important,
[1:27:37]
but at the end of that decision are children.
[1:27:40]
Yeah. That need to be educated and be taken care of properly
[1:27:44]
and the schools need to be taken care of properly.
[1:27:46]
The end of a plow, the end of a mowing, mow
[1:27:50]
a mower.
[1:27:52]
There's still children involved.
[1:27:54]
And I don't think the town council,
[1:27:57]
and this is not a slam to them,
[1:27:59]
I don't think they understand
[1:28:00]
what it's like to run a school district.
[1:28:02]
What is in the school district, how education is managed
[1:28:07]
and how classrooms are managed, how schools are managed,
[1:28:10]
and how a child's actually educated.
[1:28:13]
And I think it's unfair to them to expect them to have to do
[1:28:16]
that because somebody wants
[1:28:17]
to take over the school district, my, just my opinion.
[1:28:21]
But at the end of it all, you better remember
[1:28:23]
that there's kids at the end.
[1:28:27]
I think to your point, Brenda, it does beg the question,
[1:28:29]
what problem does the town of Derry have have
[1:28:32]
that this state level legislation seeks to solve?
[1:28:38]
And that's really where I take issue with it. I mean, Mr.
[1:28:41]
Tripp mentioned this evening at public comment that,
[1:28:44]
you know, this is democracy, it's a democratic process.
[1:28:46]
Well, as a reminder, there is a democratic process
[1:28:48]
that takes place called a charter
[1:28:50]
commission within the town of dairy.
[1:28:51]
And if the dairy residents decide that that's a way
[1:28:54]
of looking closely at how the town
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and schools have a relationship, there's a process in place
[1:29:00]
for that to take place already to study the implications,
[1:29:04]
to study the efficiencies that Mr. Flynn just mentioned.
[1:29:07]
And so that process exists right now.
[1:29:12]
And so I, I do think, I look forward
[1:29:15]
to the collaboration a couple weeks
[1:29:16]
with our town counselors.
[1:29:18]
I think that there's a lot of good conversation to be had.
[1:29:21]
And, you know, I, I will just state
[1:29:24]
that I have very real concerns.
[1:29:29]
I think one of the things that I have seen floating
[1:29:33]
around online, which is the, the takeaway is the
[1:29:37]
idea of there are too many administrators.
[1:29:41]
That seemed to be a, a main theme
[1:29:45]
when I was reading about these, these bills.
[1:29:48]
And I, I know that you don't follow social media, mike, so,
[1:29:52]
but this, you get a, a, a pulse,
[1:29:56]
a finger on the pulse of what's going on out there.
[1:29:59]
And it wasn't just dairy, it was outside of dairy.
[1:30:02]
And that was like, well, you know,
[1:30:03]
there's just too many administrators,
[1:30:05]
too many administrators.
[1:30:06]
And it's that, that, that one idea
[1:30:09]
and a concept in a bill.
[1:30:11]
So I think the thought is, well, if there's just too many,
[1:30:14]
it's administrators and too many business costs,
[1:30:16]
we're just gonna cut that.
[1:30:17]
And instead of there being, you know, like, well,
[1:30:19]
why don't we just have one principal
[1:30:21]
and not a vice principal, and why don't we just, and,
[1:30:23]
and just do these little tiny, it's like death
[1:30:26]
by a thousand paper cuts, where they think that
[1:30:28]
by taking out these big ticket numbers,
[1:30:31]
that it won't affect the kids.
[1:30:33]
And it's just office costs.
[1:30:35]
But as Brenda just said, at the end of it, at the end
[1:30:39]
of everything is children.
[1:30:41]
So I don't think that they understand that trickle
[1:30:44]
down that's gonna happen.
[1:30:47]
And what we are ultimately going to have to deal with by
[1:30:51]
the idea of like, we'll just cut SAU costs,
[1:30:53]
but everything funnels just in a tiny way into SAU costs.
[1:30:57]
Sure. There isn't, there's a big picture
[1:31:00]
and there isn't enough tiny details
[1:31:04]
to make this float right now. Yeah.
[1:31:08]
And minimum standards tells us when we have to have a,
[1:31:12]
an assistant principal, how many students you have to, like,
[1:31:16]
there's rules that have to be followed.
[1:31:19]
I know they can be changed, but right now, there are rules
[1:31:21]
that say this ma and I don't know them in my head,
[1:31:23]
but this many students, you have
[1:31:25]
to have an assistant principal, this many students, you have
[1:31:27]
to have this many nurses.
[1:31:29]
And it talk about democracy. We vote on the school budget.
[1:31:33]
The citizens of the town vote on the school budget.
[1:31:35]
The citizens of the town can come
[1:31:37]
to deliberative session and change the budget.
[1:31:39]
If that's their choice, they have a vote.
[1:31:42]
I don't know why that isn't part of democracy.
[1:31:47]
I mean, that is an excellent point.
[1:31:48]
I mean, if anything, you know,
[1:31:50]
the town meeting system in New Hampshire,
[1:31:51]
the deliberative session, I mean,
[1:31:53]
it is the ultimate expression of democracy, right?
[1:31:56]
It's the opportunity for everybody in this town
[1:32:00]
to come together and determine
[1:32:03]
what the school budget is gonna be like.
[1:32:05]
You know, us as a school board, you know, we take the blame
[1:32:08]
for the budget a lot, but all we do is propose a budget.
[1:32:11]
You know, anybody in town can come to
[1:32:13]
that deliberative session and propose a
[1:32:16]
change to that budget.
[1:32:17]
And if 50% of the, you know, 150 people
[1:32:20]
that show up in the room that night, you know, say that,
[1:32:24]
that they want that cut, then it is done.
[1:32:28]
You know, I mean, that's democracy, you know,
[1:32:32]
and the discussion that Jenna alluded to, and,
[1:32:35]
and Brenda brought up the, the, you know,
[1:32:36]
the New Hampshire ED three oh sixes, right.
[1:32:38]
And minimum standards. And just, I quickly pulled it up
[1:32:41]
for the, the administration ratio.
[1:32:44]
So in Bill's building, he said his enrollment was what,
[1:32:47]
6 37?
[1:32:48]
I forget what he said, all that. Okay.
[1:32:51]
So that requires one principal and one assistant principal.
[1:32:54]
And guess what, we have one
[1:32:55]
principal and one assistant principal.
[1:32:57]
So at the elementary level, if it's one per 500,
[1:32:59]
you could reduce an assistant principal.
[1:33:01]
But then you talk about the points
[1:33:03]
of emphasis, which is your services.
[1:33:05]
So when a bullying report comes in,
[1:33:07]
when a parent thing comes in,
[1:33:09]
how's the delegation of duties happening?
[1:33:11]
And what's your return quickly to your customer,
[1:33:15]
which is your student or your family member.
[1:33:17]
So, I mean, that's what the school board does.
[1:33:19]
They analyze those costs
[1:33:20]
and you guys make determination on what you think is best.
[1:33:22]
So it, it's all worthwhile discussion.
[1:33:25]
I think that's democracy as well too.
[1:33:27]
Like point, counterpoint, you know, and, and,
[1:33:29]
and information as generous, you know,
[1:33:30]
seeking the right information rather than assuming,
[1:33:35]
you know, being informed takes work.
[1:33:36]
It takes time and it takes effort.
[1:33:38]
And, and, and it's, it's asking the right people, the,
[1:33:41]
the appropriate questions.
[1:33:42]
So I look forward to all this as we get into the fall.
[1:33:45]
I think it's definitely a, a, a, you know, a kind
[1:33:48]
of a crossroads for a lot of us in our, in our profession.
[1:33:52]
Because I think, going back to the core issue
[1:33:54]
of the November one, to say that it's not gonna impact kids
[1:33:56]
that, I mean that's, I don't even know how,
[1:34:01]
I don't know how you can even think that it wouldn't, that
[1:34:04]
that's, that's very challenging for me in my seat to say
[1:34:06]
that a a three
[1:34:08]
and a half percent cut isn't gonna impact kids.
[1:34:12]
So Yeah. I mean, 80% of the budget is personnel. Yeah.
[1:34:16]
And pinker intuition. Yeah.
[1:34:18]
So, you know, if we have to make a, you know, as massive
[1:34:22]
reductions as this might be, you know, we don't really know
[1:34:25]
what the impact of this is gonna be.
[1:34:26]
You can't tell me that that's not gonna affect kids. Right.
[1:34:30]
One thing I would like to say, and I don't know,
[1:34:31]
when we were, we were just talking about the town workshop
[1:34:34]
and, and ideas to come up, right. To circle back. So we
[1:34:37]
Started that. So yeah. Any,
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Anyway, talking about the town workshop, I think one
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of the ways is to see
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how we can collaborate and work together.
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And I mean, we already have a, like if, for example,
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the deliberative session, we have a minimal turnout.
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I am a hundred people, maybe max one 50 come to that.
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And that's only from word of mouth
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through the Dairy Cooperative School District
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and letting our parents know what's happening.
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If we are really concerned and we want,
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and a lot of things that come up in this town are people
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that don't have kids in the school system,
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but they still pay into the school system
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and they are concerned,
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but they don't know about these things.
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So to be able to collaborate with the town as far
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as getting out communication to other taxpayers,
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to having those talking sessions with other taxpayers,
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it might already be happy.
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I don't know. But that's something that I think
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that we should maybe partner with them a little bit more.
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Because if we're super concerned about having everything
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super transparent and hearing back from everybody,
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then we've gotta get the word out to everybody.
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I mean, we put things up on the town signs, right?
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So by the fire station and on things like that.
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But what else more can we do
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Collaborative?
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We tried, we tried, last year we, I went,
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I brought flyers out to the fairways.
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I pla we went, we brought them to Marion Garish.
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We tried really hard, we had an ad in the dairy news.
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We tried really hard to get the word about word out
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about deliberative last year.
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And still there was very minimal turnout. Yeah.
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But yeah, I mean obviously as much as we can do
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to get the info out there, we need to do it.
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But I don't know, we should definitely keep trying. And
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I mean, I think a lot of it is
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that people do don't even know
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what a deliberative session is. Yeah. But
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That's why we had, we did videos.
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I know those online.
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Like we really, we can lead the Horse to water
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And communications committee.
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We really focus really hard.
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Yeah. I mean we've gone through this with
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so many things like, you know, outside of, you know,
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going door to door to everyone in town's house.
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Right. You know, it's kind of hard to, you know,
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to get this information out.
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And correct me if I'm wrong, Jane, but I think at some point
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before we had worked with the town to send things out to,
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you know, they have mailing lists
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that they collect information.
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I remember us doing that when we were, you know,
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promoting the facilities bond.
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Does that ring a bell for you?
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I, I don't remember specifically,
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but I believe we did work
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with them on getting the mailing list from them. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, I'm sure we Can because we don't have
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one, so, but they did. Yep.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure we can do that again with, you know,
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getting people to come out to the deliberative session
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and I'm, I'm sure that they do it themselves,
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you know, for the town election.
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You know, it happens on the same day. Right.
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All right. Any other agenda topics anybody would like
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to consider for, for this meeting coming up?
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I think that's such a big ticket item.
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I don't know what else we could talk about.
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We have hour's to talk to them.
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It's gonna, that take all that,
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It's gonna dominate the discussion. I'd like hear
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Where each council member stands on that too.
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So they sent over some recommendations
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for the draft agenda just so
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that we're all on the same page.
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So what we cover discussion on the November vote
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and the tax cap of 1331 town budgeting and, and,
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and the tax rate of the town.
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Because that's all changing if you're,
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as we've been communicating 2027 warrant
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and future purchases.
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So I wanted to communicate to the town
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that the CIP p's coming in live
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and we're gonna have a projection out
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to 2033 on our big purchases, which is important.
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Capital projects, future legislation,
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state funding, things along those lines.
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So kind
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of everything we talked about will probably all encompass in
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that start starting to point of the discussion.
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'cause it all kind of fends off of that. Yeah.
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One thing I was thinking about is, you know,
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possibly talking about how we can work with the town
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to coordinate traffic flow around the schools.
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During the school year,
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we had, we had a four hour meeting on Thursday
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with principals and I'll be reaching out
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to the dairy police department pretty soon.
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East Dairy School. The, the pickup line is, yeah,
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it's, it's, it's new to me.
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Not having appropriate properties to support
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both flows is new to me.
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So we're gonna be talking about it.
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I mean there are so many pinch
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points, you know, around the schools.
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You think about like even a school like Barca, you know,
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500 students there.
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There's one road in one road out
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and it ends at a stop sign at the bypass.
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Yep. So like, you know, if you've ever tried to leave Barca
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after drop off or
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after pickup, I mean that lines up, you know,
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our biggest challenge now is, and that's just one school.
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Yeah. Every school has their, their challenges.
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Going back to my, my busing update
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where our buses are getting stuck in the car pickup lines.
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So our ridership is up now.
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Our buses are delayed parent pickup.
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'cause we've gotta wait for all the things to clear.
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So now our buses end up running behind.
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We need to, we need to find a way to get our buses ahead
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of all of them or around them safely.
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So we started drafting ideas
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and I have to get in touch with them.
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I know Melissa had reached out earlier about Grinnell
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and trying to get the buses
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to come up from the backside just to get them in.
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Like there's, yeah, we're trying to be very, well,
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I mean, I've talked about this before.
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You know, my son went to Grinnell
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and the first two years that he went there,
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the cars came in from Mount Pleasant
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and the buses came up from when, from the other way.
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That's a one. It's a town road, Grinnell Road
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and it's a one way street.
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Right. So we were told we couldn't do that anymore.
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And now the buses
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and the cars co-mingle in one line going,
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you know, down from Mount Pleasant.
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Yeah. We got some work to do.
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So yeah, I mean that was always the thing at Grinnell is
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that the buses would wait at the corner of Grinnell Road
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and like, you know, if you wanna get outta there quick,
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you gotta get there before the buses
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and go in the get in the line.
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Well, I think that's why, I mean,
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half the time I remember seeing parents, you know,
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getting into the parking lot at two
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school didn't get out till three
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and they would just sit there in their cars
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with the cars running for an hour just
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because they wanted to be there before the rest of the rush.
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I used to drop my son off every morning at Grinnell
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for chorus once a week.
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So, you know, 30 minutes
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before school starts, I would get there to drop him off,
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you know, about 40 minutes before school starts for chorus
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and there would already be six cars waiting
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for the regular drop off.
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We gotta, we have to be
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considerate of all the parties involved.
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But, you know, but it, it's definitely the,
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the ratio as Bill said, has gone down.
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But now, 'cause we have more students on the bus,
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the routes are longer.
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We gotta get 'em moving sooner.
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So it, again, it's one
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of these unintended consequences of the time shift.
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So we're working on it.
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All right.
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Anything else from anybody? Sounds like a packed agenda.
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Yeah. All right, Mike, is that all you've got?
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That's it from, that's it. So sorry about that.
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So we can move on here.
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Move on to committee and liaison reports.
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First up will be Karen
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with an update from the finance committee.
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Thank you Jane, for that update on the finance committee.
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I do wanna let everyone know though,
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we still have retained funds
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well under the 400,000 that, that we took for the capital
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for the SAU when we, when we switched it
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and we got 4,000 for that.
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We still have tons of funds left on that.
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And one of the reasons, so he has something on the positive
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for the school board is
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because SNHU donated a ton of furniture for us.
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So that was awesome.
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And the other thing I wanted to say was,
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we did vote last meeting
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to give $533,811 back to the taxpayers.
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We also had another 1.5 million budgeted as a placeholder.
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So in reality we gave the taxpayers back over $2 million.
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So that, that's a good deal. So happy to report on that.
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And that's it.
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All right. Thank you Karen. Any questions?
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All right. We also had a facilities committee meeting.
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David is the chair of that committee
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and he's not here tonight, so I can take this one.
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We discussed a few things now
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with this summer's work wrapped up at SRS.
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They're beginning planning for phase two next summer.
[1:43:33]
I think Mike can correct me if I'm wrong,
[1:43:35]
but I believe they said they completed about 40%
[1:43:38]
of the roof work this summer.
[1:43:40]
Yes. About 60% to do next summer. Yep.
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But the expectation is, is now that we've done that 40%,
[1:43:46]
they have an idea of where the potential pitfalls lie from
[1:43:49]
that initial roof work.
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And they'll be able to tackle the remaining 60% next
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summer at a faster clip.
[1:43:55]
And a positive note there too, even
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with all the unexpected complications we've run into at SRS,
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all those projects are still under budget.
[1:44:01]
They are additional planning for next summer's.
[1:44:05]
Other projects, mark job's been working
[1:44:07]
with LaValley Resinger to plan
[1:44:09]
for district wide door replacements.
[1:44:11]
They're gonna be reviewing doors
[1:44:13]
and identifying candidates for replacement.
[1:44:15]
We've also got a window replacement
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for the fifties section at Hood Untapped for next summer.
[1:44:20]
And the expectation is Mark will have bids
[1:44:22]
for those projects to bring
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to us in the late fall or early winter.
[1:44:28]
And Mike already kind of hit on this earlier in his update,
[1:44:32]
but since we are looking at coming in under budget on a
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number of these projects, we have that interest income
[1:44:37]
that's been reallocated toward the bond projects.
[1:44:39]
Mark and Jeremy are working together to develop that list
[1:44:42]
of additional projects that we'd be able to complete
[1:44:44]
with those additional proceeds.
[1:44:49]
Mike and Jeremy also have the capital improvement plan.
[1:44:51]
They work to develop with UMass
[1:44:52]
Lowell students this past spring.
[1:44:53]
They're working to update that to account
[1:44:55]
for all the projects that have been completed.
[1:44:57]
And they'll be bringing that forward to the board
[1:44:59]
for adoption in the near future.
[1:45:02]
And one final note, just on top
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of all these big ticket improvement projects throughout the
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district, with the beginning of schools staff
[1:45:09]
and students back in the buildings, Jeremy
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and his team have been working through over 300 maintenance
[1:45:13]
tickets submitted by staff.
[1:45:15]
So, you know, again, we've gotta give it up to Jeremy
[1:45:18]
and his staff for not only shepherding all these major
[1:45:20]
projects along throughout the summer,
[1:45:22]
but all this work that they're doing every day
[1:45:24]
to make sure our staff
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and students have safe inviting and functional spaces.
[1:45:33]
Moving on to our next agenda item.
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We've got member updates in any other business.
[1:45:38]
I've got a couple of things.
[1:45:41]
We've, we're going to be doing a facilities tour
[1:45:44]
as a public meeting Thursday, September 17th at 4:00 PM
[1:45:48]
That's gonna be for the board.
[1:45:49]
And as a public meeting, any interested members
[1:45:51]
of the community could also come out with us
[1:45:53]
to take a tour of the facilities.
[1:45:55]
You can see all this work that
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we've been talking about firsthand.
[1:45:58]
I believe the plan is to begin the tour at 4:00 PM at SRS.
[1:46:03]
Correct. And then the group will move on
[1:46:05]
to the other schools from there.
[1:46:07]
So if you're interested in seeing
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where your tax dollars are going, come on out.
[1:46:11]
What's the date? It said it is Thursday,
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September 17th at 4:00 PM So the
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second item is for the board.
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The New Hampshire School Board Association's Delegate
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Assembly is coming up Saturday, October 17th.
[1:46:26]
You've all been receiving emails from the
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association about this.
[1:46:30]
At our next meeting on September 22nd, we will vote
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to nominate a voting delegate and alternate to the assembly
[1:46:35]
and on our position on the resolutions
[1:46:37]
and bylaw changes that are gonna be considered.
[1:46:39]
So please go over those emails you've been getting
[1:46:42]
and if you're interested in serving
[1:46:44]
as a delegate, let us know.
[1:46:47]
Did anyone else on the board have any other
[1:46:49]
updates they wanted to bring forward?
[1:46:54]
All right. Not hearing any.
[1:46:57]
So we'll move on to our upcoming meeting schedule.
[1:46:59]
As we discussed, we'll be meeting with the Town Council
[1:47:01]
for a collaborative workshop discussion at 5:30 PM on
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Tuesday, September 22nd.
[1:47:06]
That'll be followed by our regular meeting at 6:30 PM
[1:47:09]
And then our next scheduled meeting would be Tuesday,
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October 13th at 6:30 PM All meetings
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here at the municipal center.
[1:47:17]
That wraps up our public agenda.
[1:47:19]
The board will be meeting in non-public session tonight.
[1:47:21]
So I would accept the motion to enter non-public session
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under RSA 91 a.
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Section three, paragraph two, subparagraph A.
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So moved first by Jamie second. Second by Karen.
[1:47:33]
This statute requires we take a roll call. Vote. Brenda.
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Jen. Yes. Jenna? Yes. Jamie? Yes. Karen? Yes. Chair votes?
[1:47:41]
Yes. Motion carries. Six zero.
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The board will now move into non-public session.
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Goodnight everybody.