[2:31] Okay. Like to call to order the uh regular council meeting for the town of

[2:34] Dbury for Monday, December 15th. Uh the time is 5:00. Exactly.

[2:47] Uh first item adopt the agenda as amended.

[2:54] » I move that council adopt the agenda as amended. We need to add an item

[2:59] enclosed. I think would be 12.4. Is there something we would be calling

[3:07] » trade vision discussions >> trade vision discussions

[3:14] to vote? All in favor

[3:19] close. So car

[3:33] so I don't think we have any delegations. Um to move on to uh four on

[3:37] the agenda which is the adoption of minutes from November 25th, 2025 regular

[3:41] council meeting.

[3:46] Move to adopt the November 25th, 2025 council regular council meeting minutes

[3:54] as presented.

[3:57] All in favor?

[4:01] Opposed? So car

[4:12] on to the CEO report. Everyone's had time to review that.

[4:21] Can I get a motion for the CA report?

[4:27] I move that uh council accept the CAO report this information.

[4:32] Okay, open up the floor to debate. There any questions, comments?

[4:47] » Okay. Uh, I know this question can't probably be answered here tonight

[4:52] because I don't think anyone from BO is here, but um, did we actually pull over

[4:57] a gentleman going 99 kilometers an hour in a km hour zone on 20th Avenue towards

[5:04] Highway 582. How do you get to that speed in that

[5:08] section? I get it. I know there's no answer. I'm just bringing it to to light

[5:13] the amount of speed that this gentleman was traveling at or I shouldn't say

[5:18] gentleman. I don't know. Uh this person I was kind of shocked by the sheer

[5:24] number of violations that there were.

[5:30] there any other >> just maybe it's more appropriate for the

[5:37] protective services third quarter report.

[5:41] Uh no that's where we're at right. So, um I noticed that the

[5:47] the there's tickets being included in the jurisdiction between the

[5:52] east side boundary and 2A. Um is that part of our jurisdiction? Maybe that's

[5:59] something that

[6:04] » I would wager that because we can perform moving violations. We may be

[6:08] authorized under the traffic safety act too, but generally we stay in the

[6:11] boundary. Now, if the call began inside our boundary and then we had to pursue

[6:15] them outward, then it becomes a provincial ticket that we would then

[6:19] hand over to the province and they would collect in fine revenue and things of

[6:23] that nature as well. But we're still keeping the road safe from speeders

[6:26] either way. So, >> maybe that's something we can find out

[6:29] whether or not these locations are where the stop was initiated or where the stop

[6:33] actually found out. Um

[6:40] um and it looks like the grouping of tickets are on 582

[6:48] um right by if it's where they are stopped and ticketed. That's right by

[6:55] the um the west the west side there by those acreages. Um that looks like the

[7:02] strongest uh number of ticketing and also then

[7:07] going down the hill by on 582 towards the stop sign.

[7:13] So the thought crossed my mind to reduce the speeding. Is it worth considering a

[7:19] speed radar flashing sign for town with placement in primary violation areas?

[7:25] You know, how much do they cost? Um I see it in some towns where they've uh

[7:31] you know, you're going one kilometer over slow down or

[7:37] whatever. I mean, something that will help reduce the number of tickets that

[7:42] are being made and whether that actually happens when you have those signs. Is

[7:48] there the basis for slowing people down because of it?

[7:56] » Certainly, there's always the argument for preventative features like comic

[8:00] signs like that. The question becomes um do you want to have that amended and

[8:07] added into the budget based on costing in the first quarter once we go to the

[8:11] final round of amendments before passing our tax bylaw? Do you want to talk with

[8:15] your citizenry on what kinds of other traffic calming ideas they may want you

[8:20] to consider? You don't have to open up the whole can of worms now that we've

[8:23] discussed it publicly. If everyone who's watching knows that there is not

[8:26] actually a radar taking a photo of you, will it continue to be effective? The

[8:31] flashing sites with the speed that changes though uh definitely have a

[8:35] calming effect on my hippie foot. Um so I would imagine for all human that it

[8:39] may also work for others. Yes. Um administration can look into it however

[8:44] you like us. I would think using the resources that

[8:48] we have in place with our enforcement officers already focusing their efforts

[8:52] there might just be enough to on those key areas.

[8:57] » Okay. And if I mean if it's something that can be considered in the future, it

[9:03] doesn't have to be immediate. Just I'm just throwing it out there as a as a

[9:07] thought. >> Given the nature of 582, I think that's

[9:11] where we're going to see a lot of our worst offenders, right?

[9:19] Yeah, I think when I see the speed limits that people are achieving um on

[9:24] four of them being pulled over and ticketed uh we tried the warning thing

[9:29] and it um it really fell short and uh you know was instructed as well as the

[9:35] RCMP focus was stop the education and start ticketing and if it gets expensive

[9:40] enough maybe they'll slow down. We don't people injured on our streets. 100

[9:45] kilometers an hour in town is just absolutely unacceptable. I find myself

[9:51] going too slow sometimes a little too. Anyway, I can't imagine doing 100 down

[9:56] 20. That's just unacceptable.

[10:02] Any further comments on the CEO report? No. Okay. To a vote. All in favor?

[10:12] opposed. So carried

[10:18] takes us on to item number seven.

[10:22] Bylaws and policies 7.1 is repealing bylaw 2025-18.

[10:33] Everybody had a chance to review that. Sorry. Go ahead. Sure. Thank you.

[10:39] Uh, I move the council grant first reading to repealing bylaw 2025-18.

[10:46] » All in favor?

[10:50] » Oh, have you already? >> No, that's fine. Yeah.

[10:53] » Good. >> Um, just a question. Will this include

[10:58] doortodoor sales licensing? >> Yeah.

[11:03] » If it's a business town. Okay. The the sorry councelor Kwans the

[11:09] only way that it may not is if hawker peddler licensing is expressly provided

[11:13] for as a requirement in the land use bylaw where it may sometimes show up in

[11:17] municipalities but I'm getting the signal from staff it's not there. So yes

[11:20] the hawker pendler license requirement also goes away. People are free to come

[11:26] and do business in Dsbury without the extra administrative step as per the

[11:31] request of council. So just a question, will this have some

[11:37] unintended consequences of a plethora of unwelcome doortodoor sales people

[11:44] targeting our town? >> I seem to get those anyway, but that's I

[11:49] would say that's a possibility.

[11:53] » Hard to gauge is the administration's response.

[11:59] » Um I I agree. I had one in my yesterday. I asked for a business license, they

[12:04] could not provide it. So the the issue we have with business licenses, I see

[12:09] people in town paving and doing all kinds of stuff without um I think this

[12:13] council can certainly very quickly come back and create uh something because my

[12:18] question too was uh this should be an advantage for our local uh merchants. I

[12:24] think we should probably still continue on getting the bylaw passed if that's

[12:27] the will. Um, but we can we can bring back that if you're from out of town,

[12:32] uh, you certainly can require licensing. Um, and that's that's up to council to

[12:37] decide and and I would, uh, I would recommend that we do that. Um, that

[12:42] gives our businesses a little bit of an advantage, but uh, I don't I don't know

[12:47] how people are controlling the non-licensing. Um,

[12:52] as the mayor said, they just show up. We could come up with a more targeted

[12:57] bylaw that covers that, I'm sure. >> And I don't mind passing this like I'm

[13:03] in favor of passing it now. >> Just just being attentive to what's

[13:08] actually happening on this back. Thanks. >> Any other questions or comments? I

[13:15] apologize for jumping into the vote on that. Sorry. Let's find out.

[13:20] Oh, okay. All in favor? Opposed? Okay.

[13:29] » And uh I move the council grant second reading to repealing bylaw 2025-18.

[13:37] » And I'll just make sure I don't repeat the same mistake. There any comments or

[13:40] concerns here?

[13:44] » I had an editing just a few editing uh questions with it.

[13:51] page 22 of my is that the right one 22

[14:00] that's that is the new by okay um

[14:06] where it talks about uh after the second whereas

[14:14] take out the following whereas we have too many where's

[14:19] I

[14:21] If you can find that. I see I see two. Normally you saying there's a third on

[14:26] your copy. >> No, the second line.

[14:32] » Got um that's one editing uh suggestion I

[14:37] have. And then

[14:41] also in that sentence to read that have become obsolete. And it says

[14:49] become

[14:53] ineffectual

[14:58] changed. Where is that at? I'm sorry.

[15:10] It says it the way it's supposed to now that have become ineffectual or no

[15:15] longer aligned. That's okay. I I thought there was a

[15:19] word obsolete in there. Um and

[15:28] that's all. Thank you. So, how do we handle it?

[15:35] Can you restate the that you're looking for

[15:37] » just the whereas >> second paragraph of whereas there is

[15:41] whereas twice in a row so it's just a >> typographical we can catch that in the

[15:46] copy or hang on a second please miss back feel free to use the microphone

[15:51] » thank you chair the second whereas and then doing it now therefore that's

[15:55] common structure for bylaw writing I know that grammatically it doesn't make

[15:59] a whole lot of sense but that's the common structure

[16:03] » sure thank you for the clarification

[16:13] Anything further on the second reading? >> No. Okay. All in favor?

[16:21] » Opposed? Okay. So car, pardon me. No, it's not

[16:25] carried yet. Pardon me. unanimous.

[16:30] » Uh so I do I move do it or just um I will move then to unanimous consent to

[16:36] proceed to the third reading of repealing bylaw 2025-18.

[16:45] » Okay. All in favor?

[16:51] » Okay. Okay. And I move that council grant third and final reading to

[16:54] repealing bylaw 2025-18.

[16:59] Any further comments, questions? No. All in favor?

[17:06] » Opposed? So carried

[17:22] And that brings us to item 7.2 on the agenda, which is rates, fees, and fines

[17:25] bylaw 2025-19.

[17:40] Councelor Murray, could I get a motion? I move that the council grant first

[17:47] reading to raise fees and fines bylaw 2025-19.

[17:52] » Thank you. >> Is there comments or concerns? Open up

[17:56] the floor to debate.

[18:01] Just one probably still possible to change it. Uh number eight on the repeal

[18:08] the following bylaw are hereby repealed and just put the plural on that by the

[18:15] number one.

[18:20] » Sorry. Can you restate that nor? >> Yeah. Number eight, page um

[18:26] 27 repeal the following following by law

[18:32] are hereby repealed just making

[18:37] I know it's getting technical. So just to read the following by laws.

[18:53] Any other comments? Okay.

[18:58] All in favor?

[19:01] Opposed? Okay.

[19:07] Move that the council grant second reading the rates, fees, and fines bylaw

[19:12] 22025-19.

[19:17] Anything further? Okay. All in favor?

[19:23] Opposed?

[19:28] I move the council grant unanimous consent to proceed to third and final

[19:32] reading of the rates, fees, and fines bylaw 2025-19.

[19:39] » All in favor?

[19:43] Opposed?

[19:48] I move the council grant third and final reading to the rates, fees, and fines

[19:52] bylaw 2025-19.

[19:58] All in favored.

[20:04] So carried.

[20:20] It takes us to item 7.3 on the agenda, which is utility charges bylaw 2025-20.

[20:34] » I move that council grant first reading to utility charges bylaw 2025-20.

[20:42] Thank you. We'll open up the floor to debate. Questions, comments?

[20:50] Okay. Put two vote then. All in favor?

[21:00] I move the council grant second reading to utility charges bylaw 2025-20.

[21:09] Anything further from councel questions? No.

[21:13] » Okay. All in favor? opposed.

[21:21] » I move that council I move that council grant unanimous consent to proceed of

[21:27] third reading of utility charges bylaw 2025-20.

[21:33] » All in favor?

[21:37] » Opposed.

[21:42] I move that council grant third and final reading to utility charges bylaw

[21:46] 2025-20.

[21:51] All those in favor

[21:55] opposed. So carried.

[22:00] » Thank you very much for those comments.

[22:21] Okay, that takes us to item eight on the agenda, which is uh new business. Uh

[22:26] item 8-1, accessibility parking allocation request.

[22:33] I will uh turn that over to my director of public works, Greg Fox.

[22:43] Thank you, Council. Um we've had a request from a part from a resident to

[22:48] uh apply a accessibility parking space in front of the home. This one's down in

[22:53] Valer Roa Drive number six. Uh just in from the corner of the the subdivision

[22:59] entrance. Um administration doesn't have any concerns with this request at this

[23:04] time. Happy to ask answer any questions >> and I'm understanding this is a

[23:10] designated street parking space. Yeah, the applicant or the requesttor um

[23:16] is mobility impaired and so have access for the handy bus and such to be able to

[23:22] to come in and park. Um they've asked for this parking spot. According to the

[23:26] bylaw, this is council's jurisdiction for traffic control measures. Um so

[23:30] administration sort of receives requests and brings them directly to you. So

[23:36] » okay, is there comments or questions? We'll

[23:39] get the motion afterwards.

[23:42] I'm going to talk about it, but go ahead because I just got off the phone and I

[23:46] don't think I have as much information as you do

[23:49] on that. I'd like to read a statement. Um, at first, I mean, it's important to

[23:57] get this request right. It's a sensitive issue. Um and uh it may be useful to

[24:04] develop a policy to guide applicants applications for individualized

[24:08] residential accessibility parking unless we already have one. Maybe we do.

[24:16] Do we have one? >> No. No formal policy exists. This is

[24:21] just what we've been using as word so far.

[24:23] » Okay. So, uh, consideration of setting a precedent for individual residential

[24:30] accessibility parking around town. Make sure it's from pinto pin, for example,

[24:35] rather than hedge or tree or fence feature to feature as there are

[24:40] potentially a property struggles happening between neighbors, not saying

[24:45] that there is here. Um, have neighbors needs or impact been considered the

[24:51] neighborhood such as a neighbor's need also for accessibility parking or how

[24:56] the bus door lines up with the resident sidewalk etc. Uh what are all the issues

[25:02] behind the request and in in a tight parking area which that is I I lived in

[25:08] this residence actually. Um in a tight parking area what impact will it have on

[25:14] the neighborhood? revisers, we guess. Um, since there's no parking available

[25:20] there for those who don't have a handicap, does that put pressure more on

[25:26] a tight uh tight parking area? And what happens when they move and no

[25:32] accessibility is needed for that resident again? Um, these are issues

[25:37] that may arise if other requests are made. Um, and maybe it's not a precedent

[25:43] already being set, but if it is, um, I'm just wondering how it will affect if we

[25:48] have more and more wanting to access and their front space being designated as as

[25:57] handicapped and and I'm not sure what the alternative is. Carry on as they've

[26:02] been doing, but uh, that's what I'd like to put on the table.

[26:06] » Question for Director Fox through the CEO. Um, how many of these do we

[26:10] currently have in town?

[26:14] » I'm not familiar with the quantity that we have around town, but I do know that

[26:17] it has been done previously. There's an example on the block just to the north

[26:23] of us here where the resident has a wheelchair signs put up because they are

[26:27] handicapped resident. Um, so like I say, the bylaw just sort of stipulates that

[26:32] this is council's jurisdiction and we just bring the information forward to

[26:39] if council wanted to u administration together something that ties into or

[26:45] shoots off of our traffic by law, it could be done. Um my understanding in

[26:49] practice is that we typically cannot designate a parking spot like that of

[26:54] that nature in front of a personal residence or private residence

[26:57] exclusively for that person. I think the practice is that anybody who has a

[27:01] placard can use it and it would be there for the duration of the resident who

[27:05] holds the placard living in that residence. Afterwards it can go back

[27:08] from blue to yellow or be blasted off. But it certainly would be convenient for

[27:12] them to know that there is a reserved set of space in front of their residents

[27:15] for community transportation that's specific to their needs um can park and

[27:20] access. So these are factors you could consider um more formally. I mean we

[27:27] could do a policy or it could become some sort of subset of regulations

[27:30] within the traffic bylaw as well. Either or one is stronger than the other as an

[27:34] instrument. I would say consider whether you want to create a positive obligation

[27:38] to give the space as long as certain criteria are met so that there's some

[27:42] consistency for the applicants who are disadvantaged mobility wise that want to

[27:47] know for sure that this isn't going to become a big debate about whether the

[27:50] neighbors can trump them based on you know but we've seen other

[27:53] characteristics come in under appeal for for various things. So it's council's

[27:58] intention to try to draft a policy that iners to the benefit of the applicant.

[28:02] Is that what I'm understanding? Yeah. >> Okay.

[28:07] So, we can work on something like that if it's the wish of council. Just give

[28:10] me a motion and direct us to do so and we can talk about timelines and

[28:14] components and criteria. But today, yes or no under the current authority you

[28:18] have would also be helpful and then we can formalize it a little better. What

[28:22] are your thoughts? >> Um, I have a couple concerns. One is

[28:26] that there's, as Norm maybe sort of alluded to, is there's more to this

[28:30] issue than than just the, you know, having a designated

[28:34] park for a disabled person. Um, but I would be open to considering as

[28:41] long as it's clear that that spot is for any disabled person, not for the

[28:44] homeowner that lives there. Um, specifically, um, because we don't do

[28:48] designated parking on streets for residents. Um those spots are available

[28:53] to anyone who chooses to park their first come first serve. Um this would

[28:57] just be a handicap disabled first come first serve. I guess in this case

[29:07] » I I think uh I know councelor Mah about to go. I would just say that I think we

[29:11] would certainly codify the current practice in writing so that it's clear

[29:14] that it's for anyone but that's where that spot happens to be for now.

[29:20] » Motion for that.

[29:24] Um, just before I got council here tonight, I got a call from the next door

[29:29] neighbor to this applicant. And apparently it's been a an ongoing fight

[29:36] with parking back and forth as of all of Ala's very tight friend. um parking. Um

[29:46] apparently the the applicant won't let anybody park in front of this house,

[29:51] including his own um um guests, they come to his house, so

[29:58] they park in front of the neighbors. So, it's an ongoing fight with like four or

[30:04] five neighbors down there from what I understand.

[30:07] And now he's going to use this as a trump card to stop anybody.

[30:14] So I think we need to make a clear clear

[30:21] policy on if you have a handicap like Chris said you have an endap sticker you

[30:26] can park there it's not owned by the person that owns the house

[30:33] that's just my comments from the neighbors. And the other thing is too is

[30:38] for building permits. We have we're on four houses.

[30:44] We interview all the neighbors and see what they think of it.

[30:49] It's a valid point. It might require some

[30:53] consultation. I guess put well with permitting for building structures and

[30:58] that sort of thing. So, if we're going to make a a designated parking spot in

[31:03] front of one person's house, I think all the neighbors should be aware of it

[31:06] before it happens. >> Any other thoughts? I'd like to hear

[31:10] from some of the other council.

[31:16] » Cars parked in front of my house all the time. I haven't done a lot. It's big and

[31:20] I get pissed off every time someone is parked in front because they use it for

[31:24] parallel parking practice all the time. So, I come home and there's people

[31:28] parallel parking. They love it. They just love my spot. But it's uh yeah, I

[31:33] think there needs to be more information. Like I don't want to say I

[31:36] don't believe this person or anything like that. Is this like all I have is

[31:40] this person requesting this right now. This is all been substantiated. They use

[31:44] the handy bus all the time. Like this is the level of their mobility or are we

[31:49] setting a precedent to Yeah. Neighbors could just get this willy-nilly. I don't

[31:55] I don't see any other information. requesting a spot. So,

[32:02] » and yeah, there if there's people having an issue with it and it's very tight.

[32:07] Um, >> that that's an issue to me.

[32:14] » So, I I'm kind of coming at it from the other side. Uh we deal with some

[32:18] mobility issues and uh the um handicapped or or disability parking

[32:27] spots uh definitely uh serve a great purpose. Uh I do agree that it should

[32:35] not be limited to one person like that only one person can park there. If if it

[32:41] if it is accepted, it is designated as a disabled or or I don't know that we use

[32:48] I guess I don't know. Um but that it is very clear that it is not a personal

[32:57] parking spot for one individual. It is designated as for handicap. Um, but

[33:04] again, uh, as councelor Lambert said, we're we're coming at this with very

[33:10] little information. I don't I don't know anything about the level of of of

[33:16] mobility and uh, the degree at which um, it's it's a tough decision to make

[33:24] without having more facts. I guess for me,

[33:28] I agree. I think we've got about a quarter of the picture that we need to

[33:32] see to make a decision on this. Anyone disagree?

[33:39] » I would like that. I move that uh administration

[33:45] um take this discussion and develop some parameters around

[33:53] a parking space such as this. Is that too big? Okay.

[34:01] » Any further debate on the motion is put forward?

[34:05] » We did. Yeah. Just his motion, right? We didn't make

[34:08] » No, we haven't made any others. Okay. Uh all in favor of the motion

[34:15] opposed. So carried.

[34:22] Okay. Item 8.2 is the 2026 capital budget.

[34:35] Somebody put forward a motion.

[34:47] » Okay. Yes, please. I'd move to adopt the 2026 capital

[34:54] budget as presented totaling an estimated amount of 1 million314,000

[35:00] and funded from the following sources. Operations 36,18

[35:08] reserves 619,21

[35:14] and provincial grants 553,500 and other grants 105,191.

[35:23] Okay, I'll open the floor up to debate, comments, questions if there are any.

[35:37] Okay, go ahead. Um,

[35:44] page 62. Hope that's still the same page

[35:52] on the virtual machine server upgrade. Has a grant funding source been pursued?

[36:03] PA message for these.

[36:09] » Thank you. Um there we haven't pursued a grant for

[36:14] this there. You could always use the CCBF grant or the um LGF grant

[36:22] would likely qualify. Um however,

[36:28] typically um those grant funds are saved for road

[36:34] projects um rather than

[36:39] and like heavy equipment if required rather than um server upgrades.

[36:48] I was just thinking there should be some kind of a technical grant available,

[36:53] technology upgrades, etc. that doesn't take away from our roads and stuff

[37:01] mindset.

[37:06] » There's no grant that I'm aware that would cover that unfortunately.

[37:13] » Okay. Anything further?

[37:20] Okay, >> got another one. Sorry.

[37:26] » Turn your mic on. >> I'm not sorry. Oh. Um on number page 64.

[37:38] Um the deferral impact. Does this crossing

[37:42] need crossing arms as is mentioned? Uh would just lights be suitable for how

[37:49] infrequently a train runs this crossing? For example, 582 crossing doesn't have

[37:55] arms. And there was just a mention of crossing arms at the bottom of that uh

[38:00] title deferral impact. It says of crossing arms and legs. I'm just

[38:06] wondering if we're considering the whole shooting or not.

[38:15] » To the best of my knowledge, the the gates come with the package when you

[38:20] pull the stop sign out. We can double check that in our conversations with

[38:23] CPKC once we get going in that dialogue. But I have always understood it that

[38:28] that's a full suite of uh measures that come together and that is what you have

[38:33] to have in place in exchange for putting out the stop sign.

[38:37] But we can we can double check on it. >> Yeah, if if there was a less costly

[38:43] version obviously would like to explore that um because the price tag for that

[38:47] is fairly steep. So yeah, thank you councelor Quans. That's it.

[38:54] Okay. Anything else?

[38:58] Okay. Um, all in favor?

[39:06] Okay. So, carried.

[39:14] Item 8.3 is the 2026 to 2030 multi-year capital plan.

[39:28] I move to adopt the 2026 2030 multi-year capital plan.

[39:36] Open up the floor to debate, comments, questions.

[39:43] No. Okay. To vote then. All in favor?

[39:51] Opposed. Okay. It's okay.

[39:58] That brings us to item 8.4, which is the 2026 operating budget.

[40:09] You want to push for

[40:26] the 207 2029 multi-year operating plan as

[40:31] presented.

[40:36] » We are on >> Oh, sorry.

[40:39] » 8.4 the operating budget, right?

[40:43] to approve the 2026 operating budget with the total revenues before the

[40:48] municipal tax levy of 7,882,235

[40:53] and a total expenditures of 13,252

[41:00] $100,86.

[41:12] » Yep. That was good. Yeah, it's fine. Uh, and I'm going to add a second.

[41:17] » Yeah. Do that first to forgo the council.

[41:20] » Yeah. Yeah. No. Um, I'd like to add to that motion with a second that is to

[41:24] forego the cost of living adjustment for the 2026 year for council renumeration.

[41:30] » Okay.

[41:40] » To the chair. Did you need two motions there?

[41:43] » Okay. >> Okay. So, we'll do it separately.

[41:45] » Yeah. So, just just pull your motion back if you can and redo it. Yeah.

[41:54] » Yeah. Great.

[42:05] » Excellent. Uh I think we debated this quite a bit, but I'll just ask if

[42:09] there's any other questions or comments around this motion before we ahead. No.

[42:13] Okay. So, all in favor? Opposed.

[42:18] Okay.

[42:21] Part two to approve the 2026 operating budget total revenues before the musical

[42:27] tax levy 7,82,235

[42:32] and totales of 13,252,00

[42:45] questions or comments around

[42:48] No. Okay. All in favored.

[42:56] So carried.

[43:03] And that takes us to item 8.5, which is the 2027 to 2029 multi-year operating

[43:08] plan.

[43:14] I move to adopt the 2027 to 2029 multi-year operating plan as presented.

[43:21] Open the floor to debate.

[43:29] Oh, sorry.

[43:34] We didn't really get to discuss this much

[43:39] before. We spent a lot of time on budget stuff,

[43:43] but we didn't really look into this. >> It was there review, but we didn't spend

[43:48] a lot of time. >> Right.

[43:54] » Just so everybody's aware, I don't know. We spent enough time on it. That's for

[43:58] sure.

[44:04] So, just for council's comfort, um the multi-year operating plan, um we just

[44:11] have to have council review it and update it each year. You could look at

[44:16] it at any time in the new year and it doesn't it does not form part of the

[44:22] budget. So, there's nothing in 27 to 29 that we can um that we could go ahead

[44:29] and um spend When it comes to 2027 budget, that'll be

[44:35] council's perview to adopt a new budget year. And it and most likely, I've never

[44:40] seen them equal the multi-year operating plan. So, at that time, you'll get um

[44:46] total say over what the budget looks like. And for the most part, the

[44:52] operating plan is um we start with the current year budget

[44:57] and then add a layer of inflationary adjustments on the cost. So um the

[45:06] multi-year plan

[45:12] while it looks maybe high as far as the municipal tax that he required, there

[45:17] would be other adjustments when we actually into the 2027 budgeting that

[45:21] would impact that.

[45:26] » I just want to say thanks for the clarification.

[45:29] » So, it' be fair to say that this is basically a forecast.

[45:33] » Correct. >> Okay. Thank you.

[45:38] Okay. Any other comments or concerns? No. Okay. Vote. All in favor?

[45:47] Opposed? So carried.

[45:54] Okay, that brings us to item nine, which is council reports.

[46:00] Everybody had a chance to review those. Okay,

[46:06] we get a motion on that one. Sure. Thank you.

[46:10] I'd like to make a motion to accept the December 15, 2025 council reports as

[46:15] information. Are there any questions on the two

[46:20] reports? >> Should the others that didn't submit a

[46:24] report report?

[46:28] Verbal council members will each provide a

[46:33] verbal report.

[46:38] » Yeah, I have a MPC report and our plan library report and the waste management

[46:46] for the Yeah, the waste report um the NBC November 26, 2025

[46:55] Cher match days on his chair as the vice chair uh three permits uh

[47:01] pass the main chain uh thing that we voted on was the uh homeation dog

[47:09] uh was uh it was on in a business shop and they wanted to

[47:17] move it to their home location. That was approved and they amended condition six

[47:22] which was hours of operation will be from 9 to 6 p.m.

[47:29] And that was the operational meeting as well

[47:33] for the mic

[47:41] and for the parkland library. Um

[47:49] decisions on investments were reviewed twice a year $140,000 when investment

[47:54] portfolio 2026 board meeting dates were decided

[47:58] meeting will be at 10 a.m.

[48:03] They also updates on directors vehicles and

[48:11] the municipal board gave updates on what was happening in their library

[48:23] for the waste uh the waste commission.

[48:30] There was talk about one of the things that they talked specifically about was

[48:34] 23rd Street and just the ongoing discussion of that because the other

[48:39] council was putting pressure on them to not be able to use the road. So that was

[48:46] a big concern for them and we I let them know that the new council is looking to

[48:52] be working with them. The um the dump is a major if we don't allow them access

[48:58] they'll some other way and it will cost us. So yeah, it's um that was a big

[49:05] discussion. We got their reports. The Dun is doing very well. They have a lot

[49:08] of room and um we just voted on a wage increase as well that passed.

[49:19] » Any other reports?

[49:25] » No, I had no committee meetings. just the two workshops.

[49:32] I was also in NBC with Troy on those and as well as we had a deact meeting, but

[49:38] it is mostly in camera.

[49:42] lots of good discussions on what's possibly coming to town, but

[49:47] again

[49:52] uh I will add personally that um I attend well I attended many of the same

[49:56] events that councelor Quans attended. Um the country Christmas which I thought

[50:00] was an excellent excellent event was well put together given the amount of

[50:04] leadup time that they had to to organize all of that. thought it was a great and

[50:09] and worthwhile event. But I also had the pleasure of participating in the uh CBKC

[50:14] uh Christmas train last week which I thought was excellent. Um no, I did not

[50:20] get to pull the train whistle unfortunately. Um but uh we excellent

[50:25] turnout. I thought um you know the the railier was was quite full. They

[50:30] estimated our members to be around 900 people that had showed up in attendance.

[50:33] So that's in my opinion pretty strong support for

[50:37] our little town. So, that's great. Um, I will say that they do

[50:43] take account for very specific reasons. So, we need to be mindful of that and

[50:46] make sure that we get out and support these events because

[50:50] other towns are always vying for these spots. So, bring your families out, come

[50:54] and support these events, make a donation to the food bank if you have

[50:57] the ability to do so. Um, I know I did that day, so I was happy to do it. Um,

[51:02] but yeah, great event. and uh got to ride the train to Air Tree, which was an

[51:06] interesting experience. And that was the last stop for a group

[51:11] of people that had been on there for I think it was 57 shows was the number

[51:14] that I heard. So they they' done that quite a few times by the time they got

[51:17] to see us. So >> I'm sorry.

[51:20] » Yes, they all retired. I'll just add to that. Uh I didn't

[51:24] attend the CPKC in an official capacity, but I was there in the audience with my

[51:29] daughter and uh everyone I spoke to had a great time. up on the edge of the

[51:34] train station balcony looking out over the group and uh it was it was a lot of

[51:39] fun to be out there despite the cold and I I agree. I think it was a great

[51:44] showing and I'd love to see just even more.

[51:49] » Yeah, the amount of uh funds and and food that they raise is incredible. I

[51:53] can't remember the exact numbers now, but it was basically a million dollars a

[51:56] year and it was like I think trying to remember the pounds of food. I

[52:02] think it was tons of food that they raised if I recall the numbers

[52:05] correctly. >> I saw it at one point. It was part of my

[52:07] speech, but the guy before me said it also said cut off.

[52:11] So anyway, all right. Anything further on council reports then?

[52:18] » Not on report. I just want to touch on on what you said about the country

[52:22] Christmas. It was put on in a a very short time and I think um it was very

[52:27] wellreceived. Uh the evening was good. It was cold. Um But, uh, I I'm looking

[52:34] forward to next year being even better. And I think, uh, we should just really

[52:38] publicly thank all of the volunteers that that gave their time up to make

[52:42] that that happen. And I believe that's what you were you you said. I'm just

[52:47] kind of piggybacking on you, but uh, it was it was a great event and, uh, I'm

[52:53] looking forward to next year. >> Yeah, I think the list of volunteers is

[52:56] probably a little too long to go into here. We the we run out of time because

[53:01] there were a lot of people involved including a whole bunch of people in

[53:04] this room. So I want to again just thank everybody for their efforts. It's

[53:07] definitely a great event.

[53:11] All right. Um motion for this already accepted. Yes. Thank you. So all in

[53:18] favor of accepting this uh reports these reports information

[53:23] opposed. Okay. So car.

[53:35] » Okay. We're on a correspondence and information.

[53:41] Okay. If you would council questions, I'd like to move to accept the

[53:46] correspondence for December 15, 2025's information.

[53:51] » Are there any questions or comments? to open up the floor to debate if any

[53:55] anything on any of the occasions that we received.

[54:01] » Um curious that the uh midsize town mayor caucus I was attended this meeting

[54:06] on behalf of of our mayor um and recognizing our former mayor Mrs. Rhonda

[54:12] Hunter for her uh time spent with the midsize town mayors as their chair. I'm

[54:18] wondering if this correspondence will be shared with her beyond council.

[54:25] » Yes, we can forward a copy to her. >> Excellent. Thank you.

[54:29] » Thank you. >> Anything else, Quans?

[54:32] » And I I want to uh the correspondence section of this uh agenda is very long.

[54:39] One of the longest I've ever seen >> and has been a fair bit of comments.

[54:43] Most of that was from the RCMP presentation

[54:47] and um I tried to wait through that as much as I could. Um but I wanted to

[54:55] commend the RCMP for putting the data that they have out to the public instead

[55:02] of uh just coming and saying, "Hey, we want to be your police force." uh they

[55:08] actually put some uh you know long data together and I just wanted to make that

[55:15] a public expression of appreciation for the RCMP

[55:23] comments. >> I've got two I'll start with a quick

[55:27] one. Um, similar to what councelor Quan said, I've um I've been really happy to

[55:33] see a lot of correspondence in general u from members of the community various

[55:38] entities, organizations, and I just I guess I want to see that continue. I

[55:43] hope that it does. I like seeing open discourse in, you know,

[55:49] accessible spaces and I think it uh I think it bodess well. Um, and the second

[55:54] point is actually a curiosity of mine. I was really intrigued by

[56:02] the letter from Just make sure I get the name correct. Paige Murphy from the

[56:09] three minor hockey association regarding uh the live barn streaming system for

[56:16] the arena. Uh, at its core, I'm really intrigued by

[56:21] this. I think um I'd love to hear from other members of council as well. Uh I

[56:28] know more than a little bit about streaming platforms and I think that I

[56:34] looked at their website. I looked at their various offerings to venues and I

[56:40] think it's a fascinating one. Um one that I would want more information on

[56:44] certainly before any decisions would be made. But uh I'm really curious if

[56:48] anyone has either experience with this particular entity before through other

[56:54] venues. I know for example I don't have a lot of experience when it comes to

[56:58] sporting events only the the streaming element of it. So

[57:03] I was curious if anyone else has uh used this platform, experienced it and if we

[57:07] could down the road get more information about it.

[57:11] Yeah, I had some questions, concerns of my own and maybe council Hong can can

[57:15] answer some of that, but it's, you know, privacy issues, recording minors in

[57:19] public, stuff like that that kind of, you know, bring the hairs up on the back

[57:22] of my neck a little bit. So, >> so I think we're probably one of the

[57:27] last arenas to have it put in. Um, I think it was probably

[57:33] five years ago. I was watching my nephew play hockey in the air green ring

[57:38] through live barn. Um, so it's it's been around for a long

[57:45] time. Like I say, I think we're probably one of the last drinks to go in. I know

[57:51] the Colts were on it, but now they've moved to another platform that the

[57:57] league is has kind of pushed them to called Faux Sports, but that's a whole

[58:02] different ball game because they take over your their their

[58:06] website, their web page. It's all mainly now. The league's kind of taken that

[58:12] over, but Live Barn, it's just on the ice. So, it's so

[58:20] grandpa can watch their grandkids and you know I like I say I watched my

[58:24] nephew play hockey in air >> so

[58:30] » I definitely see the belly of it as a as a parent who couldn't always be there

[58:34] for hockey camps >> and that's that's what a lot of the

[58:37] parents you know if one or more kids in hockey one's in Silven Lake one's in air

[58:43] well then they can be watching on their phone they can be watching like Silvin's

[58:47] got and um and this one as well. Live barn.

[58:54] Um so that's primarily I think and and aunts and uncles and whoever else want

[59:00] to watch it. Like I say, I I think we're probably one of the last ar

[59:06] and it's it's a league thing. It's not just

[59:10] we're bringing this as a streaming. It goes through there's all sorts of

[59:16] leagues on it like from

[59:24] I think we should seriously look at comm.

[59:32] » Yeah, I'd love to with the opportunity to speak um and it was in the letter it

[59:37] was offered for um Dave Murphy to speak with us in some sort of meeting and or

[59:43] the live barn team. Um I personally love to hear I think there are valid privacy

[59:49] concerns as well as uh structural concerns. Uh I believe the system's

[59:53] automated anytime anyone goes on the ice by default, which seems very good on

[59:58] paper, but what about just public skating? What about, you know, private

[1:00:03] event? What about when the ice isn't in the arena? There are a lot of questions

[1:00:06] I have about how the system itself works and how it could be set to benefit

[1:00:12] DSbury and memorial complex. I think what is presented is accurate. It could

[1:00:19] come at essentially no cost to the town with potentially significant benefit. Um

[1:00:26] I just think it would be I think we we can't I would love to look into it.

[1:00:32] Okay. Or perhaps we could invite them to come as a delegation to a future meeting

[1:00:37] if I may. Actually, councelor Mahome council first. Sure. I just wanted to

[1:00:43] see if Amanda had any other thoughts on this

[1:00:47] as you have kids in in minor hockey.

[1:01:00] » Yeah. So this is obviously outside my role as CFO but as a parent um

[1:01:07] » that's >> yeah as a parent and I have used like

[1:01:11] live farm before um the person watching would pay a subscription and you'd be

[1:01:18] able to access it from your phone in some sort of device. Um, and you are

[1:01:25] able to go back a number of days and watch past

[1:01:30] events as well. So, let's say there was like

[1:01:34] tryyous or that sort of thing that you wanted to go back and watch or allow

[1:01:39] your child to see how their game went and do like a playbyplay. Um,

[1:01:46] it is in most arenas that you go to now. Um,

[1:01:57] Okay.

[1:02:02] I think uh for the community, it's probably good, like Will said, to look

[1:02:06] into it, inviting members as a delegation, how to explain to us some of

[1:02:11] the the security questions that you have. I would like to watch my my

[1:02:16] grandchildren play and sometimes they're they're in four different locations, so

[1:02:20] that's just selfish to me. This would, you know, has to be good for

[1:02:24] the town, but I I think we ought to uh at least have the delegation to explain

[1:02:30] and answer their questions. Sounds good. Yeah, I think I think we

[1:02:34] just need to be cognizant of anything like this that we put into a space,

[1:02:38] there are going to be some people that have privacy concerns. So um

[1:02:45] so to that end with especially with the new privacy legislation, our privacy

[1:02:48] coordinator would be doing privacy impact assessment that would be required

[1:02:52] before anything and then there would likely do some conversations with the

[1:02:57] provider, their privacy policy, um conversations with the stakeholder

[1:03:02] groups to get their support for consent to share that space and time when teams

[1:03:08] are playing. There is some administrative leg work that would need

[1:03:11] to be done and perhaps the first group you may want to chat with before you

[1:03:15] talk with Live Martin unless you referring to them all as the Dinsbury

[1:03:18] Minor Hockey Association and just bring them in and see if they've done their

[1:03:21] homework too because there's other purveyors out there as councelor Mahome

[1:03:25] said the the Colts team uses a different one um if we're paying for it depending

[1:03:29] on the cost there may be a procurement policy requirement involved to get

[1:03:32] multiple codes I'm not sure um but also in a quick conversation I had with the

[1:03:36] director who couldn't be here tonight she's Well, unfortunate breaks before

[1:03:40] the holidays, but um the revenues received from subscription may not

[1:03:45] necessarily cancel out the cost. Telus would have to flip the switch, put the

[1:03:49] fiber back onto the building in order to do that, but they have what's required

[1:03:53] there. administration will be working to get in

[1:03:57] touch with Telus um and then have that conversation present I guess a more

[1:04:02] detailed breakdown in the new year on what those costs would be how this stuff

[1:04:07] works and then which community stakeholder group should be consulted

[1:04:10] and what privacy requirements we would have to meet

[1:04:15] I guess maybe so two things number one I'm sorry the director's unwell pass

[1:04:20] along our associate feels better Um but uh yeah, I think this is something for

[1:04:25] future consideration. Um we can perhaps as a first step have the association

[1:04:31] come in and speak to it and then we can go from there and do our our due

[1:04:35] diligence.

[1:04:39] » Sorry, let's see. Uh this is this is a world I live in on

[1:04:43] a daily basis with postsecary sport. Um, and so there's a lot of areas uh that

[1:04:49] our CA has mentioned already that I think need to be addressed by our our

[1:04:54] people that deal with privacy. Um, the key thing would be that with this one, I

[1:04:59] assume it's like the majority of them, you can um set up the times when it is

[1:05:04] in session and out of session. Um, and uh, but that will be very important that

[1:05:10] it would be controlled by a party that is recognizing that, which would likely

[1:05:15] be administration um setting those timelines uh because in

[1:05:20] the past in particular with this one uh there there have been times when it's

[1:05:24] been inadvertently videoing uh an arena and then it became a privacy thing

[1:05:30] because those people that were using the arena at that time did not sign any

[1:05:35] documentation to be used. Um so yeah there be things as as our CEO is

[1:05:41] preference but um this is of this time and age and we need to be considering

[1:05:47] something whether it's live bar or some other alternative way

[1:05:54] any other comments around

[1:05:59] my curiosity of live barn the name of it I think it comes from the farming

[1:06:04] community where they have cameras looking at their cattle

[1:06:07] animals. Am I Am I correct? >> Is that close? Barn is an old hockey

[1:06:13] term.

[1:06:18] » That's where he used to play. >> Okay, I think we'll uh we'll digress and

[1:06:23] move on from this. It sounds like we've exhausted all the discussion around it.

[1:06:26] Um there any other correspondence anybody wants to address?

[1:06:32] No. Okay. All in favor of adopting the information

[1:06:39] opposed. So carried.

[1:06:45] That takes us on to question period which is item 11. Um are there any

[1:06:51] questions from the >> gallon?

[1:06:58] No, I wouldn't have any questions at all.

[1:07:01] » Next. >> I I got a few.

[1:07:07] » Thank you, mayor and council for giving me the opportunity to to address you. Um

[1:07:12] I have a few things that I wanted to say. One of the things that I found

[1:07:16] alarming in the statistics from enforcement is the number of of uh uh

[1:07:23] warnings as opposed to the violation of tickets. the warnings seriously

[1:07:28] outnumber the number of tickets given and I think that maybe there needs to be

[1:07:33] a switch in that. Um, as far as the business licenses and

[1:07:38] and diminishing or eliminating business licenses, I'd be interested to know how

[1:07:42] council plans to monitor the business enterprises that are operating in town.

[1:07:47] I think that you have crippled your economic development officer in being

[1:07:52] able to do her job effectively. I think that it is a disservice to the community

[1:07:57] to not have a accurate and adequate list of what enterprises are operating in

[1:08:03] town. And I expect that we're going to see people that are coming here that

[1:08:07] aren't licensed and that people here will utilize enterprises that are not

[1:08:12] necessarily local businesses because of that. My feeling.

[1:08:18] Um I'm extremely disappointed. Maybe I should back up and I'll try a different

[1:08:23] way here. Um, I'm really pleased to see that 17th Street Sidewalk was added to

[1:08:27] the uh capital budget. I appreciate that. That was something that I brought

[1:08:31] forward last meeting and I appreciate that that was included in the budget. I

[1:08:36] was disappointed that 19th Street wasn't um um included. I don't even know if it

[1:08:43] was considered. Um, I do realize that there are some complications associated

[1:08:47] with 19th Street, but I would have liked to have heard some discussion as to why

[1:08:52] it wasn't included or why it was overlooked. Um, that would have been a

[1:08:56] valuable thing for me be having brought that forward. I'm extremely disappointed

[1:09:02] that the public wasn't g engaged and given the opportunity to look at the

[1:09:06] budget, capital and operating budget. It is now passed and I'm going to give you

[1:09:11] some examples. One of the things that talks about in in the uh capital budget

[1:09:16] is lighting, LED lighting in the complex. There's that complex is a big

[1:09:22] big facility and the arena was already done last year. So, I'm wondering what

[1:09:27] part of the complex is is is getting the new LED lighting because it doesn't give

[1:09:32] us anything like that in the background or anything else. Um, in terms of

[1:09:37] reserves, I I appreciate that the council has gone forward with a a

[1:09:42] capital budget where it isn't impacting to a great degree the t taxation and tax

[1:09:49] taxes to the residents. However,

[1:09:53] um, through the capital budget and the operating budget, the reserves have been

[1:09:58] diminished by close to $850,000. That's the future.

[1:10:05] and to be reduced by $850,000. That's I'd have to do some calculating

[1:10:10] and and figuring, but how many street sidewalks that is when you consider that

[1:10:15] the sidewalk was increased by $75,000 and part of that was out of reserves.

[1:10:20] 50,000 of that was out of reserves. It it it it cripples your future. It really

[1:10:26] does. That's one example. Um

[1:10:31] uh I I I I think that it would have been really good opportunity for you to have

[1:10:38] brought this budget both budget to the community to see let them look at it.

[1:10:44] Again, I'm extremely disappointed with it that it wasn't brought to the

[1:10:47] community to have a look at and discuss. Anybody that tells you that the survey

[1:10:52] that was done on the budget is and and that was adequate is is is deceiving

[1:10:56] themselves. uh survey is is superficial and and has

[1:11:01] nothing. These are the numbers that we have to look at and I'm very

[1:11:04] disappointed that it was passed tonight. Both of them are passed tonight. Thank

[1:11:08] you for your time. >> Thank you.

[1:11:15] » Well, I have to say something too. I don't come enough and I'll sit down

[1:11:22] first. I don't think I need the mic. Do I need the mic?

[1:11:24] » Yes. Does anybody not know who I am? I'm just

[1:11:28] kidding. This is Deb Pelchce, resident Pittsburgh. Um, I haven't come to every

[1:11:34] meeting, but now I have another question. Has the public ever been given

[1:11:39] the opportunity to input on the budget in the past four years? Ever?

[1:11:44] » Yes. >> Other than a survey,

[1:11:47] » we had public meetings before >> and and who was told about that?

[1:11:55] Okay. You know what? It's really easy to judge. Um, but no, I I feel that's been

[1:12:01] lacking in the 22 years I've moved back and it's in my opinion. I don't know how

[1:12:06] you get through it all. Um, I know how hard it is to get public engagement.

[1:12:11] So, I I filled out the survey. I didn't do more. So, I'm guilty. But, I don't

[1:12:15] recall there being much effort in the past either. Um, I actually had no

[1:12:20] questions, but now that we talked about this handicap parking thing, I just have

[1:12:24] to add a comment on that. I do a lot of home care and if every single senior in

[1:12:28] this town that had a home care pass applied for a pass, we wouldn't have

[1:12:31] enough concrete. I I don't disagree and I understand that

[1:12:36] there's a need, but I think if we start stepping outside of commercial

[1:12:39] boundaries and people have the ability to apply for a pass in front of their

[1:12:43] home, we're just giving them another reason to fight. And there's there's not

[1:12:46] going to be any parking spots available that aren't handicapped. If if every

[1:12:50] single person that had a card holder in this town applied that has a residence.

[1:12:55] So, just keep that in mind. Um I I I don't think it's a good idea

[1:13:01] personally. Um and that's it. I just wanted to say hi and thanks so much and

[1:13:05] appreciate you guys being here. Thank you.

[1:13:23] Okay. Um, I think we need a uh I think we need a motion.

[1:13:27] » Yes, please. If you wouldn't mind. I move that council go to close at 611.

[1:13:38] All in favor? opposed.

[1:13:44] » So carried.

[1:13:52] » Excellent. Um we'll call the meeting back to order at 7:24 p.m. Um we have

[1:13:57] one final piece of business that's on the schedule, which is the uh proposed

[1:14:01] grant application. And where do we go with that? Um,

[1:14:08] did you want to uh No. Okay.

[1:14:31] I would move that the council decline the can expo grant opportunity to attend

[1:14:37] the handover Germany in 2026 and the joint invest

[1:14:43] Alberta cape redear poly technic and the trade mission.

[1:14:52] I'll open the floor to debate before we vote. Is there any further comments on

[1:14:55] this or questions?

[1:15:00] No. Okay. Uh all in favor of the motion to

[1:15:04] decline.

[1:15:08] Opposed. So carried.

[1:15:13] Okay. That brings us Thank you. uh to our final motion for

[1:15:19] the night which would be to adjourn. >> I motion that we

[1:15:25] council or adjourns the meeting at 7:25.

[1:15:33] Okay. All in favor?

[1:15:39] So carjour.

December 15, 2025 Regular Council Meeting

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