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All right, everyone. Good evening.
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I'd like to start by recognizing the
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land on the unceded territory of the
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Quw'utsun
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nation and that in this room there's
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different views, different ways of
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expression, different emotional
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intensities, and different roads that
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lead to conclusions.
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May we combine clarity of mind with
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kindness of heart, and may we be
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impartial without bending to strong
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personalities.
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May we sacrifice self-interest for the
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good of the whole, and may we do our
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work with the love and clarity of vision
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for the benefit of those that we
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represent. And with that, I'll call this
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meeting to order. Are there any late
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items tonight, Ms. Hodgins?
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So, I'll move for approval of the
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agenda, uh that council moved the July
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27th agenda be adopted as circulated.
[3:00]
Any discussion? All those in favor?
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And adoption of minutes, June 22nd,
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that we adopt the minutes from June 22nd
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regular council meeting as circulated.
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Is there a mover and a seconder? Any
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discussion? All those in favor?
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Thank you. And we have a delegation this
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evening.
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Uh Callum Matthews is uh going to be
[3:21]
presenting from Tourism Cowichan,
[3:23]
the municipal and regional district tax
[3:25]
five-year plan. Welcome. Welcome.
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» Perfect. Thank you so much. I appreciate
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the opportunity
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There we go.
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That's better.
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Perfect. Well, really happy to be here
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this evening to share some information
[3:45]
about the ongoing renewal of the
[3:47]
municipal and regional district tax
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um across the regional district here,
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which includes Duncan, of course. Um my
[3:54]
plan for tonight is just to share a
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snapshot from a revenue perspective of
[3:58]
what we're anticipating, some highlights
[4:00]
of the 5-year plan, as well as some
[4:02]
highlights for the tactical plan
[4:05]
for the 2027 calendar year,
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and wrap it up just letting you know
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kind of next steps and general
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timelines.
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For those of you who aren't aware, the
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municipal and regional district tax, or
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MRDT, is British Columbia's program to
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generate revenue to support tourism
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investment. Um it's been around since
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the 1980s. It's in place in just about
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every community in British Columbia and
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on Vancouver Island. And many of you may
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be familiar with similar programs in
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other provinces or countries. Some
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places it may look like an entry entry
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or exit fee as you fly in or out, um but
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the most common model is similar to
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ours, where there is a fee applied to
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overnight accommodation.
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In British Columbia, we have the option
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of either a 2 or 3% tax rate. Currently,
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right now in the regional district, it's
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being collected at a tax rate of 2%. Um
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across Vancouver Island in BC, the
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majority of communities have already
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moved to 3% or in the process of moving
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to 3%, and it's our intention and goal
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to move from 2% to 3% as a part of this
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renewal. Um the major outcome of that is
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it'll enable us to significantly
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increase funding to the visitor centers
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um across the regional district, which
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is an area of need that we've heard um
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from stakeholders, from our partners at
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the chamber, at BIAs, and also um from
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councils.
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It's important to recognize that there's
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a variety of eligible in ineligible
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expenses for the program. Generally
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speaking, anything to do with tourism
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marketing, um experience development,
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supporting operators, visitor centers,
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all of that is a typical eligible use.
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Where we run into challenges anything
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brick and mortar that requires
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construction. Um so capital costs are
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generally speaking not eligible expenses
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with the important exception of
[5:52]
affordable housing, and I'll speak a
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little bit more about that in a few
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slides.
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And we have to renew our MRDT every 5
[6:00]
years, so we're going through this
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process because it is a part of the the
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legislated way that this program
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operates in the province.
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This is a snapshot of MRDT renewals over
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the past few years going back to 2022.
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And it also shows our anticipated
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revenue when we move up to uh 3% MRDT.
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Um, you can see us a pretty steady
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recovery in MRDT revenues coming out of
[6:25]
COVID. And at the 3% we're anticipating
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about um 140 or so thousand in
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additional MRDT revenue. And about 80
[6:35]
additional thousand dollars in um online
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accommodation platform revenue, and
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those are the funds that um are
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currently going to Cowichan Housing for
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affordable housing purposes. So we're
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looking at pretty close to additional
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quarter million dollars in revenue by
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moving from 2% to 3%.
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When we look at communities across
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British Columbia that have gone to 3%,
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we know that there is no change in
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visitor decision-making. No one's going
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to say, "Oh, Cowichan's, you know, 1%
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more than this other community." and
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change their plan. Um, so we're really
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leaving um quite a bit of revenue um on
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the table collecting at this 2% rate.
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And our neighbors are um across
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Vancouver Island collecting at 3% um
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which really gives them a competitive
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advantage in terms of tourism
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development and marketing.
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So next jumping into a bit of an
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overview of the business plan.
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From the perspective of the vision, the
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focus for Tourism Cowichan Society is
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that uh tourism will be a significant
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contributor to um the community from an
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economic as well as a social well-being
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perspective. And as a premier
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destination for leisure getaways and
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vacations, Cowichan is increasingly
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known as a place where tourism actively
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supports destination development,
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stewardship, and industry development
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for the long-term benefit of residents
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and the local community and visitors.
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Our philosophy is really centered on
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this idea that a great place to live is
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a great place to visit. The real real
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reason I think people come to Vancouver
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Island is to experience what it's like
[8:00]
to live here. Um so, safeguarding place
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and contributing to the vibrancy of
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community and the economic and social
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development is really important um for
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Tourism Cowichan.
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The mission for Tourism Cowichan is to
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steward the region's tourism industry by
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aligning the strategy of Tourism
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Cowichan Society and its investments
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with community priorities, fostering a
[8:19]
sustainable economy that creates
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long-term benefits for businesses,
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partners, visitors, and residents
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through destination development,
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stewardship, industry training, and
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marketing initiatives that unite the
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region while showcasing the uniqueness
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of Cowichan's many communities.
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And I think that this is the best
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opportunity and challenge that we have
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as Tourism Cowichan Society. It's a big,
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quite diverse region. Uh we need to have
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a central brand and marketing strategy
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and cohesive destination and experience
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development work, but we also need to
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showcase what makes each one of the many
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communities in the region special and
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unique.
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So, jumping into the 5-year plan,
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there's four primary goals that have
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been identified through fairly extensive
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engagement with uh industry over the
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past several months. First, to influence
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destination development through
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collaboration, advocacy, and strategic
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investment. Second, to lead in
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regenerative tourism and community
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well-being. Third, to strengthen
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industry collaboration and business
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resilience. And lastly, to solidify the
[9:19]
Cowichan region's destination identity
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and market position.
[9:23]
A few more details around this first
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goal that's centered on destination
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development. Uh we want to focus on
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informing regional planning and
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development. Um
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and really the goal there is trying to
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find more alignment, more partnership
[9:36]
opportunities with local governments,
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um play a role um where it works for us
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you know us to work in a synergistic way
[9:42]
with staff at the regional district and
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councils to share a tourism perspective.
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Um this was something that we heard
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really clearly from um tourism operators
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during our engagement sessions.
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The second area is around supporting and
[9:55]
advocating for tourism-related
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infrastructure and services. Uh Tourism
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Cowichan is currently working on
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accommodation investment, attraction, uh
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cycling and hiking trail development. Um
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and I think there's a lot of opportunity
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for Tourism Cowichan Society to work
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more closely um with staff um at
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municipalities and the regional district
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in pursuit of some I think very common
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and shared goals there.
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Second, around regenerative tourism and
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community well-being, the focus is on
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promoting sustainable tourism and
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responsible travel practices. That can
[10:26]
look like um sustainability training for
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operators,
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um stewardship messaging ingrained in
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our promotion to visitors, um trying to
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instill a sense of respect for the place
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that they visit and help them understand
[10:38]
how they can give back and contribute.
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Partnerships with community
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organizations, and I think the
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investment that's a part of this plan in
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the visitor centers is a good example of
[10:46]
that. And there's also a desire to have
[10:49]
greater alignment with the Vancouver
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Island region's destination stewardship
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strategy when it comes to trying to
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attract um provincial and federal
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funding for tourism projects, alignment
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with regional as well as provincial
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plans is really important. And it can
[11:02]
help Tourism Cowichan leverage its
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resources, uh leverage its funding
[11:06]
against regional dollars and provincial
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dollars as well.
[11:09]
In terms of industry collaboration and
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resilience, we also heard loudly from
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operators um a desire for us to expand
[11:16]
industry engagement and
[11:17]
knowledge-sharing opportunities, whether
[11:19]
it's networking events, but I think more
[11:21]
specifically it was workshops and
[11:22]
training. Um they've had a program
[11:24]
recently that was focused on helping
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operators increase their dis- digital
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sophistication, find ways to connect um
[11:30]
with consumers on their own and tell
[11:32]
their own story. That was really popular
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and, um, something that will be doubling
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down on in future years as well as
[11:38]
looking at other training opportunities
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for operators.
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There's a desire to strengthen
[11:42]
relationships with indigenous partners
[11:44]
in the region, um, specifically around
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experience development, and continued
[11:49]
investment in, um, Tourism Cowichan
[11:52]
Society board training. Uh, they can
[11:54]
conduct annual board retreats where they
[11:56]
focus on board governance training, um,
[11:58]
and then also strategy for the
[12:00]
organization.
[12:02]
And goal four, around more that
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marketing branding side. Uh, it's main-
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about maintaining a unified destination
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brand that brings all of our communities
[12:11]
together, expanding collaborative
[12:12]
marketing and storytelling
[12:14]
opportunities, um, cooperative marketing
[12:16]
programs, cross promotion, the
[12:18]
opportunity to help amplify the stories
[12:20]
of individual communities, and working
[12:23]
with partner organizations like chambers
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and BIAs in pursuit of that. And then
[12:27]
supporting the delivery of visitor
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information services, um, through a
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significantly increased financial
[12:33]
contribution. Um, you know, my
[12:34]
perspective is really when there's MRDT
[12:36]
in place, uh, the best use of the funds
[12:39]
is that that helps to bring the greatest
[12:41]
benefit to community as well as offset
[12:44]
other kind of core tax costs for
[12:46]
residents. Um, so, moving to 3% would
[12:49]
enable Tourism Cowichan Society to
[12:50]
provide more funding to the visitor
[12:52]
centers. We know that visitor centers
[12:54]
are really important for the Cowichan
[12:56]
region, and that they haven't had the
[12:57]
funding that they need to operate in the
[12:59]
past. So, um, looking to kind of set a
[13:01]
new really positive course, um, is a
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part of this MRDT renewal.
[13:05]
And lastly, a snapshot for what's
[13:07]
planned for the 2027 calendar year.
[13:10]
From a marketing perspective, we're
[13:12]
looking to evolve from 2026 by having a
[13:14]
stronger focus on influencer marketing,
[13:16]
creator partnerships, and really leaning
[13:19]
into organic social media.
[13:21]
We want to continue with enhancements to
[13:23]
improve not just the accessibility of
[13:26]
the Tourism Cowichan and
[13:27]
integrations for people that might have
[13:29]
visual impairments, etc.
[13:31]
Um as well as from an AI readiness
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perspective. So, for us that isn't
[13:34]
integrating AI throughout the website
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because we know that when um visitors
[13:39]
that are planning a trip spot AI, it
[13:41]
makes them skeptical, you lose trust.
[13:44]
But, we also know that lots of people
[13:45]
are using AI for trip planning, and we
[13:47]
need to
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um kind of design the the content within
[13:50]
the website um so that will feed into
[13:52]
those um large language model platforms
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and help people that are using those
[13:57]
tools for their trip planning.
[13:59]
Um also looking to align organic social
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media with new content pillars that will
[14:03]
help to tell a better story for the
[14:05]
region.
[14:06]
And then looking to redesign the visitor
[14:08]
guide in 2028. We just recently did a
[14:11]
redesign of that, so we'll just be able
[14:13]
to update some content and keep things
[14:14]
simple for 2027, and then as is typical
[14:17]
for us every other year make a a bigger
[14:19]
investment in a refresh.
[14:21]
Uh reducing our budget in collateral
[14:23]
production is also planned for 2027
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based on investments made in 2026 and
[14:27]
2025.
[14:29]
Um and then lastly, looking at um
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currently there's a handful of different
[14:33]
cooperative marketing programs that we
[14:35]
invest in, uh the BC Ale Trail, the Bird
[14:37]
Trail, um things like that that are
[14:39]
happening provincially. And the that
[14:41]
program through Destination BC is going
[14:43]
through some significant changes. So,
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we're going to take a really deep look
[14:47]
at that and make sure that we're getting
[14:48]
best bang for buck um with those um
[14:51]
co-op investments that we're making.
[14:53]
And then lastly, from a destination
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development and product experience side
[14:57]
of things, um enhancing training
[14:59]
opportunities and engagement
[15:00]
opportunities for tourism operators. Uh
[15:04]
continuing with accommodation supply. Uh
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we know that we do not have enough fixed
[15:08]
roof accommodation properties in the
[15:10]
region. Um looking to attract investment
[15:13]
from that perspective.
[15:14]
Uh there is a huge opportunity to
[15:16]
continue to build out um agritourism and
[15:19]
culinary tourism experiences. Looking to
[15:22]
support regional mobility and active
[15:23]
transportation initiatives, and the
[15:25]
destination stewardship and responsible
[15:27]
tourism initiatives. And finally,
[15:30]
we have been talking to many of the
[15:31]
nations within the regional district,
[15:33]
and there's some exciting partnership
[15:35]
opportunities that we're exploring
[15:37]
currently and hope to be able to move
[15:38]
forward with in 2027 in partnership with
[15:41]
those nations.
[15:43]
And a few of the other tactics, so as
[15:45]
I'd been hinting at,
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um we will be increasing the visitor
[15:49]
center funding to a total of 150,000.
[15:53]
Um it's currently at $50,000.
[15:55]
And the OMF, which was formally known as
[15:59]
OAP, um it's essentially Airbnb's,
[16:03]
VRBO's, etc. Uh those funds will
[16:06]
continue to be directed towards Cowichan
[16:08]
Housing Association for affordable
[16:10]
housing-related initiatives. And we're
[16:12]
just in the process right now of
[16:14]
finalizing um their their um
[16:17]
work plan for what will happen with
[16:19]
those funds, and that will be um shared
[16:21]
out with all of the councils um upon
[16:23]
completion by Cowichan Housing
[16:25]
Association.
[16:28]
So this is what we're anticipating in
[16:29]
terms of the budget for 2027. The
[16:32]
numbers don't align perfectly with the
[16:34]
increase from 2 to 3% I shared at the
[16:36]
start. The reason is that by the time
[16:38]
2027 uh by the time our MRDT renewal is
[16:41]
complete and the increase moves to 3%,
[16:43]
we won't have a full calendar year at
[16:45]
3%. It'll be a partial at 2. Um so this
[16:47]
is our our best guess for what total
[16:49]
revenues will look like. MRDT is from
[16:52]
those fixed-roof kind of typical
[16:54]
accommodation properties. There's
[16:55]
funding from the regional district. And
[16:57]
then we also have um the co-op program
[16:59]
from Destination BC, which provides
[17:01]
matching dollars for marketing
[17:02]
initiatives, and a little bit of
[17:04]
additional revenue from some other
[17:06]
programs um
[17:07]
for about a $1.47
[17:09]
uh million dollar total budget. And that
[17:11]
does not include the short-term rental
[17:13]
money that goes through Cowichan
[17:14]
Housing.
[17:17]
And a little bit of a breakdown here, or
[17:20]
sorry, it does include the 400,000 plus
[17:22]
for affordable housing in those numbers
[17:25]
with a kind of full breakdown here
[17:26]
looking about 28% for marketing,
[17:29]
an increase to 25% for destination
[17:31]
development and experience development.
[17:34]
A increase in visitor services from
[17:36]
50,000 to 150,
[17:39]
a modest increase in admin costs, and
[17:42]
the final number there, the 444 is a
[17:45]
provincially mandated program.
[17:48]
They basically at the Ministry of
[17:49]
Finance just skim that off of the top
[17:51]
before the funds go to the regional
[17:53]
district. So that should be about $500
[17:55]
give or take.
[17:57]
And the plan is to have a very small
[17:59]
carry forward at the end of the year.
[18:00]
The goal is really always a zero-based
[18:02]
budget.
[18:03]
We try to budget conservatively and if
[18:06]
revenues are going in the right
[18:07]
direction, the board can look at
[18:09]
adjusting some of its expenditures
[18:11]
midway through the year.
[18:13]
The final thing I just wanted to quickly
[18:14]
mention is that
[18:16]
around the need for increasing from 2%
[18:18]
to 3%.
[18:20]
So Tourism Cache Creek thankfully had a
[18:22]
fairly significant amount of reserve
[18:24]
funds. That was really accumulated
[18:26]
through COVID when we weren't able to
[18:27]
spend money on marketing initiatives and
[18:30]
that's been really helpful to help us,
[18:32]
you know, support visitor servicing,
[18:34]
you know, continue with marketing and
[18:36]
destination development, but we've been
[18:38]
spending about $100,000 on a
[18:40]
deficit budget of about 100,000 every
[18:42]
year. And this was the last year that
[18:44]
we're reasonably able to continue with
[18:46]
that deficit spending while maintaining
[18:48]
a healthy reserve in the event the
[18:50]
organization needs to wind down or
[18:52]
there's an unforeseen event. So without
[18:54]
moving from the 2% to 3%, it makes it
[18:57]
incredibly challenging for us to find a
[18:59]
way of increasing funds for not just the
[19:02]
visitor center, but for other programs
[19:04]
that we have right now.
[19:06]
So we're working really hard to get the
[19:08]
accommodation properties on side with
[19:10]
that increase from 2 to 3% we've
[19:12]
launched that process and I'm hoping
[19:15]
that we'll have a positive outcome
[19:16]
there.
[19:17]
In terms of next steps, we're presenting
[19:19]
to councils right now looking to present
[19:21]
to the regional district board shortly
[19:24]
before elections with a final submission
[19:27]
of the application in February.
[19:29]
We've distributed our draft 5-year plan
[19:31]
and tactical plan far and wide and we're
[19:33]
currently receiving feedback on that
[19:36]
from staff at local governments and
[19:37]
regional districts as well as from
[19:39]
operators.
[19:41]
As I mentioned we're focused on
[19:42]
collecting signatures from those
[19:43]
operators, letters of support from
[19:45]
councils and if all goes well it'll be
[19:48]
submitted on October 1st which provides
[19:50]
a healthy amount of buffer time to
[19:52]
ensure that we receive approval from
[19:54]
cabinet before the current repeal date.
[19:57]
So I really appreciate the opportunity
[19:59]
share that with all of you this evening
[20:00]
and if appropriate I'm happy to answer
[20:01]
any questions you might have as well.
[20:03]
Thank you.
[20:05]
>> Thank you so much. Looking to around the
[20:08]
» Thank you so much. Looking to around the
[20:08]
table for questions.
[20:11]
No, you were so thorough that no one has
[20:12]
a question for you. Oh, Councillor
[20:13]
Bruce, go ahead.
[20:16]
>> Thank you Mayor.
[20:17]
» Thank you Mayor.
[20:17]
Thank you very much for your
[20:19]
presentation.
[20:20]
Um
[20:21]
I was just adding up the the wages and
[20:24]
the um
[20:25]
benefits and I just rough and ready got
[20:28]
to around 200,000 and
[20:31]
when there's more money coming in will
[20:33]
that be going to administration
[20:36]
or will that be going to programs and I
[20:38]
know you covered some of that just now
[20:40]
but it's a legitimate question and if so
[20:43]
what percentage goes to administration?
[20:46]
Um
[20:47]
and the other thing I was just going to
[20:48]
ask if you could answer the money that's
[20:51]
generated in the Cowichan Valley
[20:54]
that's
[20:55]
does that stay here or does that go into
[20:57]
a bigger pot?
[21:00]
>> Okay, so I'll take that question on
[21:02]
» Okay, so I'll take that question on
[21:02]
first Councillor Bruce. So in terms of
[21:03]
all of the revenue that's collected from
[21:05]
short-term rentals as well as the formal
[21:08]
accommodation properties across the
[21:09]
regional district. Um about 99% of that
[21:13]
comes back. Um there's a small fee of I
[21:16]
believe it's $14 per hotel or motel that
[21:20]
the Ministry of Finance collects. Um but
[21:22]
other than that, everything goes to the
[21:24]
regional district. They then provide
[21:26]
that to Tourism Cowichan, and we have to
[21:29]
provide, you know, thorough annual
[21:30]
reporting on, you know, all of the
[21:32]
expenditures associated with that. So,
[21:34]
that's one of the great things about the
[21:35]
program. Um the collection and the
[21:37]
complexity of collecting that 2 or 3%
[21:40]
from the operators is taken care of by
[21:41]
the province in exchange for about a $14
[21:44]
per property fee, and the rest comes
[21:46]
back here.
[21:47]
Um from an admin perspective, uh we
[21:50]
budgeted for about a 7% increase in kind
[21:53]
of those overhead-related expenses for
[21:55]
2027. Um that was based on some slightly
[21:59]
just the general cost of of doing
[22:01]
business, you know, including like IT
[22:03]
costs and things like that. Um we
[22:05]
generally try to keep the kind of admin
[22:07]
and overhead um around that 20% mark. Um
[22:11]
it's about as lean as we can be. The So,
[22:14]
no, as a part of the increase from 2 to
[22:16]
3%, we wouldn't anticipate any
[22:18]
significant increase in operating costs.
[22:21]
Um especially with the lion's share of
[22:23]
that increase being visitor center
[22:26]
funding um to help the visitor centers
[22:28]
deliver their programs.
[22:31]
Yeah, my pleasure.
[22:32]
>> Thank you very much. Any other
[22:33]
» Thank you very much. Any other
[22:33]
questions?
[22:35]
Seeing none. Nope, thank you very much
[22:36]
for your time with us this evening and
[22:38]
for the work that you're doing.
[22:39]
>> Thank you, I appreciate it. Take care,
[22:40]
» Thank you, I appreciate it. Take care,
[22:40]
everybody.
[22:43]
» And I'm going to move to a motion that
[22:45]
council provide a letter of support for
[22:47]
the renewal and of the Cowichan Valley
[22:49]
Regional District as a designated
[22:51]
recipient of the Municipal Regional
[22:53]
District Tax MRDT revenue within the
[22:55]
CVRD
[22:57]
for the period of July 1st, 2027 to July
[22:59]
1st, 2032.
[23:02]
Is there a mover or a seconder for that?
[23:03]
Any discussion on this motion? All those
[23:05]
in favor?
[23:06]
Motion carries. Thank you.
[23:08]
Um, we'll move over to Staff Sergeant uh
[23:11]
Perrett. Welcome.
[23:14]
Did I say your last name correctly?
[23:16]
>> Um
[23:18]
» Um
[23:18]
We have Perrett to mention to you his
[23:19]
name.
[23:20]
>> It depends on what you what you call
[23:22]
» It depends on what you what you call
[23:22]
yourself. Is it Perrett or Perrett?
[23:23]
>> Perrett normally.
[23:24]
» Perrett normally.
[23:24]
>> Perrett? Okay. Well, welcome Sergeant
[23:26]
» Perrett? Okay. Well, welcome Sergeant
[23:26]
Staff Sergeant Perrett.
[23:28]
And you're going over the RCMP annual
[23:30]
performance plan with us.
[23:31]
>> Yes. Thank you
[23:33]
» Yes. Thank you
[23:33]
uh Mayor Staples and council members.
[23:37]
So, yes, as you stated, I'm here to
[23:40]
give you an overview of what our annual
[23:41]
performance plan is for 2026 and 2027.
[23:46]
Um
[23:47]
I prepared a bit of a slideshow just uh
[23:49]
as a bit of a visual.
[23:51]
Um
[23:53]
Really, our annual performance plan
[23:56]
isn't changed significantly from last
[23:57]
year. We've just uh did some stream-
[24:00]
line of reporting and uh realigned some
[24:02]
of our initiatives. Uh
[24:05]
A, to make it less onerous for data
[24:07]
collection and and B, just to make sure
[24:10]
we're capturing
[24:11]
some things that we intend to do this
[24:13]
year. So,
[24:14]
um
[24:16]
First off,
[24:17]
our first objective is crime reduction.
[24:21]
So, in the past, we've had bicycle
[24:23]
patrols, uh
[24:24]
downtown foot patrols, and uh engagement
[24:27]
with the business community.
[24:29]
Uh road safety including uh
[24:33]
school zones and playground zones.
[24:35]
Uh curfew checks and restorative justice
[24:38]
referrals. So,
[24:39]
all those initiatives were important,
[24:41]
but this year
[24:43]
uh we decided to take a little bit
[24:44]
different focus. Uh in the the first
[24:46]
quarter of 2026,
[24:49]
we had a quite a significant increase in
[24:51]
the number of calls for service relating
[24:53]
to unwanted persons or unhoused
[24:55]
individuals.
[24:57]
Uh
[24:59]
So, uh in the
[25:02]
in recognizing that, we've been working
[25:04]
closely with the local bylaw, including
[25:06]
the city of Duncan bylaw, to come up
[25:08]
with strategies in order to
[25:11]
uh
[25:12]
reduce the the strain on the the
[25:14]
business community with these types of
[25:16]
calls and to reduce the the strain on
[25:19]
the local detachment with this type of
[25:23]
occurrence. So, um
[25:26]
So, rather than just having
[25:28]
bike patrols and foot patrols in itself,
[25:31]
we chose to we're going to focus
[25:33]
specifically on uh some joint patrols
[25:36]
that we're going to do with the local
[25:37]
bylaw.
[25:39]
Uh so, we hope you know, at least a
[25:41]
couple times a week to have an RCMP
[25:43]
member paired up with a bylaw officer.
[25:45]
So, uh
[25:47]
you know, instead of having one team, we
[25:48]
can have two. And we can uh
[25:52]
address some of these community safety
[25:54]
issues
[25:55]
uh together. And so,
[25:59]
so, one of our initiatives this year is
[26:01]
to collect data from those patrols and
[26:05]
hopefully, you know, by the end of the
[26:06]
year, compare that to our statistics and
[26:08]
see that there has been a downward trend
[26:10]
in this area.
[26:12]
Uh
[26:13]
road safety is still a priority. Uh we
[26:15]
just um
[26:17]
uh
[26:18]
combined all our traffic initiatives
[26:20]
into one rather than having it broke
[26:21]
down into different compartments.
[26:24]
Um in this fall, we're going to be uh
[26:27]
rolling out a mental health liaison
[26:29]
position at the detachment. Uh we've
[26:32]
been working with VIHA to uh obtain a a
[26:36]
mental health nurse. So, that person's
[26:38]
been identified.
[26:40]
We're still working on identifying the
[26:42]
individual from the local detachment.
[26:43]
So, they'll work as a team
[26:45]
and um
[26:48]
deal with a lot of our mental
[26:49]
health-related calls. So, we want to
[26:51]
track that and see how effective that is
[26:53]
over the the next year.
[26:55]
Uh
[26:56]
restorative justice
[26:58]
that's uh important program for our
[27:00]
detachment, so that that remains
[27:02]
unchanged.
[27:03]
And um
[27:06]
we're going to deal with uh
[27:07]
priority offender management. So,
[27:10]
um some may be
[27:12]
familiar with the Revo program, the
[27:14]
repeat violent offender program. So, the
[27:17]
provincial government has secured
[27:18]
funding for a new program this year
[27:21]
related to property offenders.
[27:23]
So, uh
[27:26]
locally uh
[27:27]
and that program still under
[27:28]
development, so it's not actually up and
[27:30]
running in the the South Island just
[27:33]
yet, but
[27:34]
when that gets up and running, we want
[27:35]
to be able to track how many charges
[27:36]
we're getting against those offenders
[27:38]
and so we can kind of
[27:40]
get a local barometer on on how
[27:42]
effective it is locally. So,
[27:48]
uh our second objective
[27:50]
providing leadership and governance.
[27:53]
Um
[27:55]
that's largely unchanged other than
[27:57]
we've just changed our reporting a
[27:59]
little bit. Um
[28:01]
we find that we're having some
[28:02]
duplication reporting throughout our
[28:05]
our data collection, so we just
[28:08]
rejig that a little bit, so that's
[28:10]
relatively unchanged.
[28:13]
Uh the third objective is employee
[28:15]
wellness and respect.
[28:17]
Last year we chose to focus on
[28:19]
supervisor development and leadership
[28:21]
development.
[28:22]
Uh we're still doing that this year, but
[28:24]
we've added a component in terms of
[28:26]
employee wellness and team building
[28:28]
exercises. So, we want to track those
[28:30]
types of
[28:32]
initiatives, whether it's um
[28:34]
you know, fitness related or mental
[28:35]
health related. So, that's we decided to
[28:38]
include that
[28:39]
as well.
[28:42]
Um
[28:45]
and
[28:47]
the fourth initiative
[28:49]
doesn't pertain to the the city of
[28:51]
Duncan directly. It's it's uh directly
[28:53]
related to Cowichan Tribes. And with
[28:56]
that, we've just uh
[28:58]
changed our reporting a little bit for
[28:59]
the year. So,
[29:01]
uh
[29:02]
I know I was quick.
[29:04]
Hoping not to take up a ton of your
[29:05]
time, but that's really the overview. Um
[29:09]
Like I said, our
[29:11]
our annual performance plan's relatively
[29:12]
unchanged. We just did a little bit of
[29:14]
rejigging this year. So,
[29:16]
uh
[29:17]
we're hoping
[29:18]
um
[29:19]
that uh you know Mayor and Council will
[29:22]
will approve this and
[29:24]
and um
[29:25]
we'll move forward. So, I mean, we just
[29:27]
concluded quarter one of our fiscal
[29:29]
year. So, uh Staff Sergeant Ken Beard
[29:32]
will be reporting on that in the coming
[29:34]
weeks.
[29:35]
Uh so, thus far, we think we're off to a
[29:37]
good start in terms of our
[29:39]
meeting our goals and objectives for
[29:41]
this year.
[29:43]
Um
[29:45]
Does anybody have any questions
[29:46]
regarding
[29:47]
the annual performance plan?
[29:49]
>> Thank you.
[29:50]
» Thank you.
[29:50]
Councilor Duncan.
[29:52]
>> Uh thank you, Your Worship.
[29:54]
» Uh thank you, Your Worship.
[29:54]
And thank [clears throat] you for the
[29:55]
report. Um just a question around the
[29:58]
prolific property offenders. Um in the
[30:01]
past, we've sort of heard that Crown uh
[30:04]
is reluctant to proceed on some charges.
[30:07]
Uh
[30:08]
you know, will this result in someone
[30:09]
that's, for example, been caught three
[30:12]
times in a day shoplifting? Will they be
[30:14]
kept in jail until they
[30:16]
until they actually go to court? That's
[30:18]
one question. And the other question
[30:21]
would be on the new mental health
[30:23]
liaison officer. Is that Is that set up
[30:25]
to speed up the process if if uh someone
[30:29]
is picked up and is going to be referred
[30:31]
to mental health?
[30:32]
Is that You know, we heard sometimes
[30:34]
that the police cars would sit at the
[30:35]
hospital for two or three hours. Is this
[30:38]
going to help speed that up?
[30:47]
» Okay.
[30:49]
First question regarding the the C Point
[30:51]
program,
[30:52]
that remains to be seen, but much like
[30:54]
for the violent offenders
[30:58]
repeat property offenders
[31:01]
it's meant to be more onerous for them
[31:03]
to get bail and
[31:06]
thus if they're held in custody
[31:08]
before trial um
[31:12]
you know, the opportunity to commit
[31:13]
further property crime is obviously
[31:15]
removed.
[31:16]
um
[31:18]
But that
[31:20]
is largely at the police hands. That
[31:21]
would be up to the the Crown to pursue
[31:23]
that.
[31:24]
But
[31:27]
and it doesn't just pertain to like
[31:30]
shoplifter types. Like
[31:32]
you know, we have one individual in our
[31:33]
community
[31:34]
isn't committing a lot of theft, but you
[31:36]
know, they have significant mental
[31:38]
health challenges, but
[31:40]
they're often downtown with weapons and
[31:42]
acting in a threatening manner and they
[31:44]
don't actually hurt anybody. So they
[31:46]
wouldn't qualify under the Revo, the
[31:47]
violent offender program. But it's a lot
[31:50]
of mischief related calls and and it's a
[31:52]
public safety issue and this person
[31:55]
generates a lot of calls for service.
[31:58]
um you know, and there's a mental health
[31:59]
component, so we take him to the
[32:01]
hospital for assessment and so it eats
[32:04]
up a lot of VR resources. So uh
[32:07]
we're hoping that that this type of
[32:09]
program
[32:10]
we can target them cuz really they need
[32:12]
to get into your court
[32:15]
um
[32:17]
ordered treatment program to break that
[32:20]
cycle. So
[32:21]
uh so that's
[32:24]
one type of individual that'd be
[32:26]
captured with this program. uh
[32:29]
Yes, some of our chronic shoplifters.
[32:31]
um
[32:35]
Yeah, I mean
[32:36]
it's largely in Crown's hands whether
[32:39]
they're successful again the person I
[32:41]
detained for trial.
[32:42]
In my experience, it's generally harder
[32:45]
to get property offenders detained until
[32:47]
trial compared to violent offenders.
[32:50]
But, um
[32:51]
so the program still in the infancy.
[32:53]
There's been a couple of meetings now
[32:54]
and our detachment and other detachments
[32:57]
South Island were just working through
[32:59]
trying to identify our first few
[33:01]
candidates. So,
[33:03]
um in the first round
[33:05]
this area may not even get a candidate
[33:07]
or it may just get one, but it's it's
[33:09]
going to be a kind of a a staggered
[33:10]
approach.
[33:12]
Um
[33:13]
to me that's a So, hopefully that answer
[33:15]
your question. That's really the best I
[33:16]
can offer.
[33:17]
Um
[33:18]
I can't really speak on behalf of Crown
[33:20]
Counsel, but that's the intention of the
[33:22]
program anyways.
[33:24]
Uh part two regarding mental health.
[33:28]
Um
[33:29]
you know, over the the past short while
[33:32]
we have worked really hard with the
[33:34]
hospital to try and reduce those wait
[33:36]
times and and so we have developed
[33:38]
strategies.
[33:40]
We're much better here than
[33:42]
other places. I I know of other
[33:43]
detachments.
[33:45]
Police officers are still waiting 4 or 5
[33:47]
hours before the doctor. Generally
[33:49]
[snorts] here we're only about an hour.
[33:50]
So, we we've really worked on that, but
[33:53]
um obviously there's still room for
[33:55]
improvements. So, that would be
[33:56]
something that the mental health liaison
[33:58]
officer
[33:59]
works on, but really it's to
[34:02]
to take those calls for service off the
[34:05]
hands of the other officers. And we last
[34:07]
year we had almost 1,500
[34:09]
mental health related calls.
[34:12]
So, we average almost four per day.
[34:15]
So, um you know, mental health liaison
[34:18]
officer, they're not going to be working
[34:19]
7 days a week
[34:20]
and they're not going to be working 24
[34:22]
hours a day, but you know, with their
[34:24]
schedule we're hoping that they can at
[34:25]
least take two a day, one to two a day.
[34:29]
So,
[34:30]
uh take half those off our hands
[34:32]
and
[34:34]
um,
[34:35]
and a lot of times I mean we don't have
[34:36]
specialized training
[34:39]
for mental health related issues. So,
[34:42]
um, you know, if somebody is presenting
[34:44]
as a danger to themselves or others, we
[34:46]
take them for assessment at the
[34:47]
hospital. But by pairing a police
[34:49]
officer with somebody that does have
[34:51]
that training,
[34:52]
they're
[34:53]
likely
[34:55]
and I say likely because it's worked in
[34:57]
other jurisdictions, but we likely will
[34:58]
have less instances where we have to
[35:00]
take people to the hospital. Uh,
[35:03]
they'll have the mental health nurse
[35:05]
will have access to much more detailed
[35:07]
medical records for that individual. So,
[35:10]
working together as a team, they can
[35:11]
come up with a better plan. So, so we're
[35:13]
hoping A, overall reduce the number
[35:16]
of times we have to take somebody to the
[35:17]
hospital and reduce overall calls for
[35:19]
service
[35:21]
because when this liaison officer isn't
[35:24]
responding to mental health calls, they
[35:26]
can take a more proactive approach. We
[35:29]
generally have
[35:31]
two or three at any given time are our
[35:33]
most prolific mental health clients and
[35:38]
um,
[35:40]
you know, it becomes a revolving door
[35:41]
where we take them up to the hospital.
[35:43]
They may be there a short time, they may
[35:44]
not get admitted and they're released.
[35:46]
So, again, by working with somebody who
[35:48]
has that level of expertise in dealing
[35:50]
with mental health,
[35:52]
we may be able to develop strategies
[35:55]
outside of enforcement in order to
[35:58]
perhaps break that cycle and
[36:01]
um, you know, one individual I can think
[36:03]
of is an adult now,
[36:05]
but
[36:06]
uh,
[36:07]
really they need support from Community
[36:08]
Living BC. So, as an example, they this
[36:12]
team could work with Community Living
[36:14]
Community Living BC to develop a
[36:16]
strategy
[36:17]
so we're not getting, you know, three
[36:20]
calls a week from this individual, three
[36:22]
to four
[36:23]
calls per week. So,
[36:28]
» Um, other questions from council
[36:30]
members?
[36:31]
Councilor Bruce.
[36:35]
» Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, thank
[36:37]
you
[36:38]
for your presentation. Um,
[36:41]
uh, not on this report, but uh,
[36:44]
do we have nearly a full complement of
[36:46]
officers in the detachment yet?
[36:49]
Are we or do you know that?
[36:52]
>> We're We're much better off. Um,
[36:56]
» We're We're much better off. Um,
[36:56]
we've been working closely with staffing
[36:59]
and
[37:00]
we're in a much better place than we
[37:01]
were, say, 6 months ago.
[37:05]
Like, when I was talking earlier about
[37:06]
doing the bike patrols, um,
[37:09]
you know, over the last 6 months, we've
[37:11]
had a disband our community safety unit,
[37:13]
which did the bulk of the bike bike
[37:15]
patrols.
[37:16]
And, uh, we've also had to collapse one
[37:20]
other unit, our investigative support
[37:22]
unit, uh, just to keep enough boots on
[37:24]
the ground to
[37:26]
do frontline policing. When somebody
[37:27]
calls 911, just make sure that there's
[37:29]
somebody there at the end to answer the
[37:30]
call. So,
[37:32]
uh,
[37:33]
you know, we've had
[37:36]
uh,
[37:37]
five or
[37:40]
Well, five cadets in the last 6 months.
[37:43]
And we've had some more seasoned
[37:45]
officers transfer in, so
[37:47]
I we probably got about uh, eight or
[37:51]
nine new officers in the last 6 months.
[37:53]
So, yeah, we're in a much better place.
[37:55]
We're still
[37:56]
not where we want to be, but um,
[38:00]
we've brought most of our
[38:02]
hard vacancies covered now, which actual
[38:06]
uh, vacant positions, but our soft
[38:09]
vacancies where people are off for a
[38:10]
variety of reasons, whether it could be
[38:13]
parental leave or, um,
[38:15]
you know, a non-duty injury or we've
[38:17]
still got a fair number off for that.
[38:20]
So,
[38:22]
we're getting there. We're We're better.
[38:23]
We're better than off than we were at 6
[38:25]
months ago, so that's
[38:29]
You're welcome. Other questions?
[38:30]
Councillor Newton, go ahead.
[38:32]
>> Hi. Thank you very much for your report.
[38:35]
» Hi. Thank you very much for your report.
[38:35]
Could you explain a little bit what
[38:38]
>> [clears throat]
[38:38]
» [clears throat]
[38:38]
>> the community safety unit was?
[38:41]
» the community safety unit was?
[38:42]
>> [snorts]
[38:42]
» [snorts]
[38:42]
>> So, the community [clears throat] safety
[38:43]
» So, the community [clears throat] safety
[38:43]
unit would have been the officers you
[38:45]
see on bicycles a lot of time. Uh
[38:48]
mainly they work in the corridor area.
[38:51]
Uh so, I'm sure all aware, but you know,
[38:54]
from
[38:55]
Drinkwater to
[38:57]
say uh
[38:58]
Boys Road and then downtown Duncan. So,
[39:00]
that's that's where they spend the bulk
[39:02]
of their time.
[39:03]
Um
[39:05]
last year they spent a lot of time just
[39:07]
patrolling
[39:08]
York and Lewis area and and
[39:11]
and North Cowichan
[39:13]
um
[39:13]
because of the
[39:15]
the
[39:16]
uh
[39:17]
tent city that it popped up along Lewis
[39:19]
Street, but
[39:20]
um
[39:21]
so, they're there to
[39:24]
uh they do all kinds of proactive
[39:26]
enforcement. Like sometimes they'll
[39:28]
hop in and they'll do a bunch of curfew
[39:30]
checks to make sure that people are
[39:32]
abiding by curfews.
[39:34]
Um you know, they
[39:35]
may take a bunch of files where there's
[39:37]
outstanding warrants for people's arrest
[39:39]
and they'll go around and try and affect
[39:41]
a lot of those arrests.
[39:43]
Uh
[39:44]
like I mentioned earlier, they work
[39:46]
closely with bylaw
[39:47]
uh to address like the unhoused types of
[39:50]
issues in the in the downtown.
[39:53]
Um
[39:54]
>> [clears throat]
[39:54]
» [clears throat]
[39:54]
>> and
[39:55]
» and
[39:56]
they're there to support us. I mean,
[39:57]
you know, if the the general duty
[39:59]
officers are are tied up, they'll help
[40:02]
out with any calls that may come in
[40:05]
during the or in the the corridor area
[40:09]
as well, so so they they cover a lot of
[40:11]
areas, but and they're also a lot of
[40:12]
community engagement like
[40:14]
if there is events at schools, um you
[40:17]
know, they'll go there and deliver
[40:19]
presentations at schools or do bike
[40:20]
rodeos at elementary schools and that
[40:22]
type of thing. So, they have a pretty
[40:24]
broad mandate, cover a lot of community
[40:26]
policing and proactive type of work.
[40:32]
» Um, so sadly, if that unit is now
[40:35]
disbanded, um,
[40:37]
the that work that you've just described
[40:40]
is now falling on the active officers.
[40:43]
Is that correct?
[40:44]
>> Yes, but um, our our staffing levels
[40:48]
» Yes, but um, our our staffing levels
[40:48]
since they've improved, uh,
[40:51]
we're going to start staffing up that
[40:52]
unit starting the beginning of August
[40:54]
here. So,
[40:55]
uh,
[40:57]
that unit used to be four.
[41:00]
Uh, it's still a four-person unit, but
[41:02]
we pieced off one of the the positions
[41:04]
to create this mental health-related
[41:06]
liaison. So, they'll still report to the
[41:08]
same supervisor.
[41:11]
Um,
[41:13]
and the thing is like so much of what we
[41:15]
deal with downtown,
[41:17]
it's mental health-related, right? So,
[41:18]
really they can work hand-in-hand, but
[41:22]
uh, so there'll be a corporal and two
[41:24]
constables
[41:26]
left to to do the the bike patrols.
[41:29]
So, we'll have the corporal in place
[41:30]
here at the beginning of August and
[41:31]
we're hoping by the end of August to
[41:33]
have the two constable positions back.
[41:36]
Um,
[41:37]
away from their secondment back into
[41:39]
their substantive role
[41:41]
and um,
[41:42]
out there
[41:44]
pedaling around.
[41:48]
» Any other questions from council?
[41:52]
Uh, thank you for your report and for
[41:55]
coming here today. And one of the things
[41:57]
I did get to go out on a um,
[42:00]
for a night with the community Is it the
[42:03]
the Sorry, can you remind me of the name
[42:05]
again of that
[42:07]
>> Community Safety Unit.
[42:08]
» Community Safety Unit.
[42:08]
>> the Community Safety Unit
[42:09]
» the Community Safety Unit
[42:09]
uh, last summer, I believe, or last
[42:12]
spring. And what I noticed is a lot of
[42:14]
what you're saying right now, that
[42:16]
essentially our our
[42:18]
we're paying our police force to manage
[42:21]
a situation that isn't being managed
[42:23]
around poverty, mental health,
[42:26]
and
[42:27]
um
[42:28]
that that is the majority of your time
[42:29]
is being
[42:31]
taken up by what other systems are
[42:33]
failing to actually provide for people.
[42:35]
And so and then we're putting it all
[42:38]
under crime.
[42:39]
And
[42:41]
when I went out that night, the thing I
[42:43]
was I think I went out for a 10 to 12
[42:45]
hours, and what shocked me was that
[42:50]
it wasn't like going to police calls
[42:52]
when you watch TV
[42:54]
at all.
[42:55]
>> certainly isn't.
[42:56]
» certainly isn't.
[42:56]
>> What it was was going to um calls the
[42:59]
» What it was was going to um calls the
[42:59]
majority of the calls were people living
[43:01]
in poverty with addiction, um
[43:05]
with mental health challenges in a
[43:06]
system that has no space for them. And
[43:08]
you're just trying to to manage it the
[43:10]
best that you can. And that's what I
[43:12]
experienced when I went out. I I was
[43:15]
asked to come out again, but then they
[43:16]
they did disband, and I would love the
[43:18]
opportunity to go out again with you in
[43:20]
the fall.
[43:21]
Um but I found that so incredibly
[43:24]
disheartening and not at all what your
[43:28]
job should be. Those jobs should be
[43:30]
dealt with by other professionals and
[43:33]
other support services that are lacking
[43:34]
in our system.
[43:38]
» Yeah, unfortunately, it's it's uh not a
[43:42]
a
[43:43]
ideal situation.
[43:45]
Um
[43:46]
you know, this hasn't necessarily
[43:48]
address the the issue, but
[43:50]
uh I know like the the first 3 months of
[43:53]
this year, we're averaging 9 1/2 calls
[43:57]
per day related to the unhoused. And so
[44:01]
um
[44:02]
you know, like I mentioned earlier,
[44:03]
we've been working closely
[44:05]
with community partners, including
[44:08]
your your bylaw
[44:09]
office and
[44:11]
uh
[44:11]
happy to say for the second quarter of
[44:13]
this year,
[44:14]
we're down to about um
[44:17]
a little under five and a half calls per
[44:19]
day. So, we've done a lot of work to try
[44:21]
and reduce the calls for service. Hasn't
[44:23]
necessarily made the issue go away, but
[44:26]
you know, we've tried other strategies
[44:27]
to reduce
[44:30]
uh at least the burden on on your
[44:33]
your first responders on your bylaw and
[44:35]
your local police. So.
[44:38]
>> Thank you.
[44:40]
» Thank you.
[44:40]
Uh we have a motion that council support
[44:42]
the 2026-2027
[44:44]
North Cowichan-Duncan RCMP Detachment
[44:46]
Annual Performance Plan as presented on
[44:48]
July 27th, 2026. Do I have a mover and a
[44:50]
seconder?
[44:51]
Any further discussion? All those in
[44:53]
favor?
[44:55]
Thank you very much for your
[44:56]
presentation, and I look forward to
[44:59]
hearing back from someone about being
[45:01]
able to go out again.
[45:04]
» Thank you, Worship, and thank you,
[45:06]
council members.
[45:11]
» And Mr. De Verteuil, over to you. Report
[45:13]
of the Chief Administrative Officer for
[45:15]
July 27th.
[45:18]
>> Thank you, Mayor Staples.
[45:19]
» Thank you, Mayor Staples.
[45:19]
Uh so, the Eagle Heights Reservoir
[45:22]
replacement, the old reservoir tank has
[45:24]
now been demolished, so they're just
[45:25]
cleaning that uh site up and I'm final
[45:28]
finalizing up that project. The
[45:30]
unfortunately for the Gibbons Reservoir
[45:32]
relining, due to water restrictions now,
[45:35]
and it's still finalizing the fixes, the
[45:37]
contractor will work to address the
[45:39]
outstanding issues in the closer to the
[45:40]
fall.
[45:42]
Uh reservoir may need to be drained
[45:43]
again to do that final work.
[45:46]
The project for the Coronation and Queen
[45:48]
Street 70 bike lanes is now
[45:50]
largely complete.
[45:52]
The I'm happy to report that the Canada
[45:55]
Avenue
[45:56]
um
[45:56]
complete streets is is well underway.
[45:58]
The the one uh
[46:00]
um
[46:01]
bugaboo seems to continually be the
[46:02]
speed limits on Iley, so we we have
[46:04]
ordered another uh speed reader board
[46:06]
for Iley Street to help with traffic
[46:08]
speeds northbound.
[46:09]
And the RCMP continue to attend to uh
[46:12]
Iley Street periodically.
[46:14]
Uh just a reminder that project's going
[46:16]
to continue on until in into 2027.
[46:21]
Happy to report as well that uh
[46:23]
thanks to the work of Relic staff, we've
[46:25]
finally got the Couch and Way traffic
[46:27]
signals operating more along the lines
[46:29]
of how they should. The new timing
[46:31]
schedules uh by Relic have been
[46:32]
implemented and the lights now utilize
[46:34]
the traffic loops,
[46:35]
uh which decreases time allocated to
[46:37]
particular legs of the intersection if
[46:39]
there's there's no traffic or little
[46:41]
traffic for that uh leg. So, it'll go
[46:43]
down to as little as 10 seconds if
[46:45]
there's
[46:46]
if there's only a couple of cars as
[46:47]
opposed to the full 30 seconds of a
[46:49]
loop.
[46:50]
Uh big thanks to uh Bob Bob Griffin from
[46:52]
Relic who who actually came back out of
[46:54]
retirement to make sure to take that one
[46:55]
across the finish line, so that was
[46:56]
terrific.
[46:58]
Uh construction for Hether's Street
[47:00]
water main, still looking to finalize
[47:02]
the details of that, so that's going to
[47:03]
push into the fall of this year.
[47:06]
Uh we have now installed staff have
[47:07]
installed two transit compliant speed
[47:10]
humps on uh Warrencliff Road, and the
[47:12]
res- residents have already been
[47:14]
indicating they've they've assisted in
[47:16]
reducing speeds in their neighborhood.
[47:21]
The zoning bylaw amendment for 521
[47:24]
Canada Avenue, which was for the
[47:26]
to permit cannabis retail on the
[47:28]
property for the location where they're
[47:30]
currently operating with a temporary use
[47:32]
permit, that's anticipated to come
[47:33]
forward to council at your August uh
[47:36]
24th meeting.
[47:38]
Notices will be out in the paper
[47:39]
relatively soon on that.
[47:42]
2026 property tax notices, so the tax
[47:45]
payments and homeowner grants claimed
[47:46]
were due by
[47:48]
July 2nd. So, if property taxes remained
[47:50]
unpaid after that date, uh 5% penalty
[47:53]
was applied to those outstanding
[47:54]
balances, and uh a second 5% penalty
[47:57]
would be added to any remaining balance
[47:59]
unpaid after 5 4:00 p.m. on September
[48:02]
1st. So, encourage folks to
[48:04]
get those um
[48:06]
uh dealt with.
[48:08]
Just a few last ones. The we are looking
[48:12]
to now plan uh the community community
[48:15]
uh um event with with Cowichan Tribes uh
[48:18]
through the grant funding we got through
[48:20]
UBCM. That'll be placed uh
[48:22]
you know, on council's uh event
[48:25]
after the election now.
[48:28]
The
[48:29]
uh we're happy to report as touched on
[48:31]
by um
[48:33]
Staff Sergeant Perrault there that the
[48:35]
the as part of the community safety
[48:36]
advocacy strategy that the city had been
[48:39]
uh lobbying for uh province-wide
[48:40]
implementation of that C-POI program for
[48:42]
the prolific property offenders and
[48:44]
we're very pleased to see that being
[48:46]
being implemented province-wide now. So,
[48:48]
we we may look to see council withdraw
[48:51]
the resolution that was going to UBCM uh
[48:53]
this coming September since since now
[48:56]
that that's largely been addressed.
[48:59]
Um also on the provincial advocacy front
[49:02]
uh as you may recall council met with uh
[49:05]
with Brittney Anderson, Minister of
[49:07]
State for local government in July to
[49:09]
discuss support for the village model
[49:11]
and corresponding uh long-term funding
[49:13]
commitment for that model,
[49:15]
uh establishment of a recovery oriented
[49:18]
village site uh which would require a
[49:20]
policy of exemption exemption by the
[49:22]
province,
[49:23]
and also some short-medium term uh
[49:26]
that we discussed about potential
[49:27]
regional highway safety improvements,
[49:29]
particularly on the Trans-Canada
[49:30]
Highway.
[49:31]
Um
[49:32]
uh that that that are sort of some
[49:34]
potential low-hanging fruit.
[49:36]
Uh
[49:37]
last couple, the cenotaph refurbishment,
[49:39]
the our Royal Canadian Legion, uh now
[49:42]
the Chemainus Duncan branch, was
[49:44]
successful in its grant application to
[49:46]
the Veterans Affairs Canada for
[49:48]
commemorative partnership program and is
[49:51]
now proceeding with refurbishments to
[49:52]
the cenotaph in the Charles Hoey Park.
[49:55]
They're they're hoping we're planning on
[49:57]
getting that done and completed by
[49:58]
Remembrance Day.
[50:00]
The clan of clan totem of our nations
[50:04]
that was carved by Tommy Hunt that has
[50:06]
been refurbished by Mr. Hunt and was
[50:09]
reinstalled in Friendship Square
[50:11]
July 14th.
[50:13]
And lastly, the city has received a
[50:15]
liquor primary club license for the
[50:18]
Couch and Lawn Bowling Club to permit
[50:21]
the club to serve alcohol to club
[50:23]
members and their guests at the
[50:24]
clubhouse 320 First Street in the next
[50:27]
to the park. Public notice will go out
[50:30]
this week to properties within a 100
[50:31]
meter radius and council consider that
[50:33]
application on August 24th.
[50:36]
That's it.
[50:48]
» Cuz it was already on.
[50:50]
Thank you so much. See it's the opposite
[50:51]
of the CVRD now when it's
[50:54]
it's opposite. It's the colors are
[50:57]
wrong.
[50:58]
So now I'm doing it here the opposite
[51:00]
way of there.
[51:01]
Thank you for your report. Are there any
[51:03]
questions or comments for Mr. de
[51:05]
Verteuil this evening?
[51:07]
Oh, we got hands. Hands to my left.
[51:10]
Councillor Newington.
[51:13]
» I just want to go back to 490 Ipray
[51:17]
and if there's has been any movements I
[51:20]
asked this
[51:22]
as couple of the neighbors have asked me
[51:25]
what is happening.
[51:30]
Mr. Young, do you know?
[51:39]
» Um yeah, so so we do have a building
[51:42]
permit application for that development
[51:44]
and we provided
[51:46]
uh back to the applicant and I think
[51:47]
it's been about a year now that the
[51:49]
applicant's been sitting on that
[51:50]
information.
[51:51]
Um and
[51:53]
our understanding is the applicant is
[51:55]
working to address those deficiencies in
[51:57]
the application and get to the point
[51:58]
where we can issue the permit, um which
[52:00]
we think will happen by the end of this
[52:02]
year.
[52:07]
» Councilor McKinley.
[52:10]
>> Regarding the refurbishment of the
[52:11]
» Regarding the refurbishment of the
[52:11]
cenotaph, did they mention if they were
[52:14]
going to add names, do you know of?
[52:17]
>> Uh I don't recall if Tommy had. I can
[52:19]
» Uh I don't recall if Tommy had. I can
[52:19]
check into that and and let you guys
[52:20]
know.
[52:24]
» Councilor Duncan.
[52:26]
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh
[52:28]
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh
[52:28]
just to go back to the community safety
[52:31]
advocacy advocacy strategy, you
[52:34]
mentioned that we may withdraw the
[52:36]
provincial wide expansion of the chronic
[52:39]
property and public disorder
[52:40]
intervention initiative.
[52:43]
Um I would
[52:44]
ask that we don't withdraw that. Uh we
[52:47]
have yet to see how Crown counsel is
[52:49]
going to react uh to that. So, I think
[52:53]
that we have to keep I guess you would
[52:55]
say someone's feet to the fire here and
[52:58]
keep that resolution on the books. So,
[53:00]
so so so that we can find out what's
[53:02]
going on with Crown because no point in
[53:04]
passing prolific offender stuff if
[53:08]
Crown counsel isn't going to come to the
[53:10]
party.
[53:13]
» Uh
[53:14]
yes, it's up to council. In fact, I
[53:16]
think it's too late to remove it. It's
[53:18]
just a bit would be an act on the floor
[53:20]
at UBCM to to let them know that we we
[53:23]
we withdraw um at that time. It's not I
[53:26]
believe we can check into that, but I
[53:27]
don't believe it's something we need to
[53:30]
advise in advance. It's just on the
[53:32]
um aspect of Crown, the the program
[53:34]
itself adds resources to Crown. That's
[53:38]
the that's how the the violent offender
[53:40]
program works as well, so they give
[53:41]
Crown some additional resources and
[53:43]
capacity um so that they can focus on
[53:47]
the repeat offenders first uh in the
[53:49]
original program with the violent
[53:51]
offenders. And now with this one, my
[53:53]
understanding of that if initially a
[53:55]
pilot and now intended to be rolled out
[53:58]
um
[53:59]
uh province-wide and in process of doing
[54:01]
so as as um Staff Sergeant Pratt talked
[54:04]
about uh that would be again with the
[54:06]
intent of adding that capacity for Crown
[54:09]
to be able to focus on those particular
[54:12]
offenders because the part of it is that
[54:14]
they are um handed a a case file and by
[54:17]
having less case files in general,
[54:19]
they're able to stay focused on those
[54:20]
ones and and see them through as opposed
[54:23]
to normally, as we've heard from from
[54:25]
some representatives of Crown Counsel in
[54:27]
the past, they're spread so thin that
[54:30]
they do have to, you know, triage which
[54:31]
ones that they're focusing on. But with
[54:33]
this particular program,
[54:35]
uh jurisdictions like ours and
[54:37]
all across the province are able to put
[54:39]
forward names of the the most
[54:42]
frequent flyers and be able to address
[54:44]
those directly. So, but we can certainly
[54:46]
wait and see and then, you know, we can
[54:48]
make that call at the time.
[54:52]
» Thank you. Any other hands? Any other
[54:54]
questions? Going once, going twice.
[54:57]
Thank you so much for your report.
[54:59]
So, I'll move that Council receive the
[55:01]
July 27th, 2026 report of the Chief
[55:03]
Administrative Officer for information
[55:05]
only. Do we have a mover and a seconder
[55:07]
for that? Any discussion? All those in
[55:09]
favor? Motion carried.
[55:12]
And we'll move to the Eagle Heights Fire
[55:14]
Services agreement. And Mr. De Verteuil,
[55:16]
you are on this one as well.
[55:19]
>> Thank you. So, the this uh is an update
[55:21]
» Thank you. So, the this uh is an update
[55:21]
to a contract that uh had previously the
[55:24]
the past contract had been in place
[55:25]
since 2003.
[55:28]
Um so, for the past 23 years under this
[55:30]
contract, the city has uh serviced the
[55:32]
Eagle Heights uh service area within the
[55:34]
regional district. Uh
[55:36]
the city, I'm told, has serviced that
[55:38]
area for fire protection for around
[55:40]
somewhere around 50 years in total.
[55:42]
Uh, but that this past contract, which
[55:44]
is obviously quite dated now being 23
[55:46]
years old, has um it just needed a
[55:48]
refresh. So, the approach is largely the
[55:51]
same on how the cost sharing works with
[55:53]
the respect to it being based on
[55:54]
assessment. But, uh just improves or
[55:57]
clarifies language in some service
[55:59]
aspects and um
[56:01]
and just, you know, modernizes the
[56:03]
language, if you will, for the most
[56:04]
part. So, overall, it's it's it's just a
[56:07]
continuation of service. Uh, we do uh in
[56:09]
this one, one of the major changes is
[56:12]
that we we will do some assistance on
[56:14]
the fire investigations uh and on the
[56:17]
fire inspections. Fire inspections in
[56:19]
the real regional district is a little
[56:20]
different than the in the municipality.
[56:23]
Municipalities are required to have a
[56:24]
system of fire inspections. In the
[56:26]
regional district, it's on a complaint
[56:28]
basis, so it's not a re-owners owner
[56:30]
onerous requirement to provide that uh
[56:33]
on a limited basis when the when the
[56:35]
time arises. And we do have to do
[56:36]
pre-fire plans within that area anyway,
[56:38]
so we we are off we'll be often in those
[56:41]
buildings already, so.
[56:44]
» Thank you so much. Are there any
[56:45]
questions on this for Mr. Doratty? So,
[56:48]
the council authorize mayor and chief
[56:49]
administrative officer to sign the fire
[56:52]
service agreement with the Cowichan
[56:53]
Valley Regional District as attached to
[56:55]
the July 27, 2026 report of the CAO to
[56:58]
provide fire services to the Eagle
[57:00]
Heights area for a 5-year term
[57:02]
commencing June 1st, 2026 and ending
[57:04]
June 1st,
[57:05]
2031. Mover and a seconder? Any further
[57:08]
discussion? All those in favor? Motion
[57:11]
carries.
[57:12]
Thank you.
[57:14]
And we'll move to the grant application
[57:15]
to the Build Communities Strong Fund.
[57:17]
And that one is over to you, Mr. Young.
[57:19]
Welcome. You don't sit up here that
[57:21]
often. It's good to actually be able to
[57:22]
see you.
[57:23]
>> It's an honor.
[57:26]
» It's an honor.
[57:26]
Uh, thank you, Mayor Lefebure.
[57:28]
>> Uh,
[57:28]
» Uh,
[57:28]
the primary purpose of this report is to
[57:31]
seek council support for a grant
[57:33]
application to the federal Build
[57:35]
Community Strong Fund, the Local Impact
[57:38]
Stream, which is being administered
[57:39]
through Pacific Can.
[57:41]
The Pacific Economic Development Canada
[57:44]
agency
[57:45]
uh for the Third Street Renewal Project.
[57:48]
In general terms, the renewal project is
[57:51]
uh a complete reconstruction of Third
[57:53]
Street from Canada Ave to Centennial
[57:56]
Park, including replacement of
[57:58]
underground utilities, as well as new
[58:01]
paving, sidewalks, street trees, uh
[58:03]
street lights in general terms.
[58:06]
Uh
[58:07]
the project
[58:08]
is and and has been for a number of
[58:10]
years partially funded uh in the in the
[58:13]
capital plan. There's a shortfall of
[58:17]
approximately 1.5 million dollars, and
[58:20]
staff are recommending that an
[58:22]
additional uh
[58:24]
approximately 450,000 be funded from the
[58:27]
Housing Accelerator Fund, as well as the
[58:31]
uh 1 million-dollar grant from the Build
[58:34]
Communities Strong Fund if we're
[58:35]
successful.
[58:37]
I'm happy to answer any questions
[58:38]
council might have.
[58:42]
» Thank you so much. Are there questions
[58:44]
from council?
[58:46]
I'm going to go over to you this time
[58:48]
first. No, you go ahead, Councillor
[58:50]
Duncan. It's okay.
[58:52]
It's all fair to go.
[58:55]
>> Okay, now I almost forgot what I was
[58:57]
» Okay, now I almost forgot what I was
[58:57]
going to ask. Uh
[58:59]
just
[59:01]
what when is the grant application
[59:03]
period open to close?
[59:08]
» Um from what we can tell on on the
[59:10]
information online, it's it's the grant
[59:13]
will just remain open um until the funds
[59:15]
are fully allocated, and they anticipate
[59:19]
making funding decisions as applications
[59:21]
are received. So, the earlier we get the
[59:23]
application in, the better.
[59:27]
» Councillor Newington, that was your
[59:28]
question? Oh, look at that.
[59:31]
Go ahead.
[59:33]
Councilor McKinley.
[59:34]
>> I just have one question.
[59:36]
» I just have one question.
[59:36]
Are you taking everything that's in the
[59:37]
ground out and replacing it or cuz we're
[59:41]
not going to leave all that
[59:43]
multiple layers of piping in there,
[59:45]
correct?
[59:49]
» Yeah, I think I think we still need to
[59:51]
to look into that. I mean
[59:53]
Mr. De Verte and I were were looking at
[59:54]
the mapping before the council meeting
[59:56]
and yes, there's a lot of
[59:57]
infrastructure, existing infrastructure
[59:59]
including I think there's sections where
[1:00:01]
there's there's four sets of storm mains
[1:00:04]
along Third Street and so I think we
[1:00:07]
have to to
[1:00:08]
and of course it's you know, a limited
[1:00:10]
right of way with and and if we're
[1:00:14]
you know, putting new infrastructure in
[1:00:16]
I I think for some of it where it's
[1:00:17]
going to be removed, some of it might
[1:00:19]
remain,
[1:00:20]
but we we haven't got to that level of
[1:00:22]
of design detail yet.
[1:00:27]
» Thank you.
[1:00:28]
Councilor Burris.
[1:00:30]
>> Thank you, Mayor.
[1:00:32]
» Thank you, Mayor.
[1:00:32]
What what
[1:00:33]
what would be our game plan if we did
[1:00:35]
not get that uh
[1:00:37]
that grant?
[1:00:42]
» Uh well, I I would think we would have
[1:00:44]
two options. One would be to continue to
[1:00:46]
apply for additional grants to cover the
[1:00:49]
budget shortfall or we reduce the scope
[1:00:52]
of the project
[1:00:54]
to reduce certain elements.
[1:01:00]
» Yeah, this one this one has been on the
[1:01:02]
books for quite a few years as I
[1:01:05]
remember and uh
[1:01:07]
um I just hope we're getting closer
[1:01:09]
because
[1:01:10]
the actual top surface needs help too
[1:01:13]
and you don't want to do that without
[1:01:15]
fixing the bottom.
[1:01:16]
But uh
[1:01:17]
I just hope that we're successful in
[1:01:20]
in getting our application in and grants
[1:01:23]
coming to us.
[1:01:28]
» Thank you. Any other questions?
[1:01:31]
All right, the council supported grant
[1:01:33]
application to Pacific CAN under the
[1:01:35]
Build Community Strong Fund Local Impact
[1:01:37]
Stream in the amount of 1 million to
[1:01:39]
proceed with the Third Street Renewal
[1:01:40]
Project. The council allocate 449
[1:01:44]
1,206. That is a very exact number from
[1:01:48]
the Housing Accelerator Fund reserve and
[1:01:50]
direct staff to increase the project
[1:01:51]
budget in the 2027 capital plan
[1:01:54]
from
[1:01:55]
uh 2 million
[1:01:57]
1,204,223,371,782
[1:02:01]
with a 449,206
[1:02:04]
funded from the HAF reserve and 1
[1:02:06]
million from the Build Community Strong
[1:02:07]
Fund.
[1:02:08]
I like the dollars in there. Uh is there
[1:02:11]
a mover and a seconder for that?
[1:02:13]
Any more discussion?
[1:02:16]
All right, let's be hopeful that we get
[1:02:18]
this one. All those in favor?
[1:02:21]
Motion carries. Thank you.
[1:02:23]
We'll move to Miss Hodgins uh who is
[1:02:26]
here
[1:02:27]
um sitting in for Miss McWilliam.
[1:02:30]
Welcome also you to the
[1:02:33]
the space in the room.
[1:02:35]
And
[1:02:36]
uh over to you for the City Awards early
[1:02:38]
nomination deadline.
[1:02:41]
>> Thank you, Mayor Staples. Um so very
[1:02:44]
» Thank you, Mayor Staples. Um so very
[1:02:44]
briefly, this report is seeking a
[1:02:46]
council resolution to advance the
[1:02:47]
nomination deadline for the Arts Award
[1:02:49]
and the School of Honor to September
[1:02:51]
15th so that council can consider the
[1:02:53]
nominees on September 28th, which is
[1:02:55]
council's last meeting of the term.
[1:02:57]
Thank you.
[1:03:02]
» All right.
[1:03:04]
Do you have a mover and a seconder? Or
[1:03:06]
do you have a question, Gary Russ? Go
[1:03:07]
ahead.
[1:03:09]
>> It's probably in here somewhere. I
[1:03:10]
» It's probably in here somewhere. I
[1:03:10]
didn't do a good job on this one, but
[1:03:12]
what are what are the dates of this now?
[1:03:15]
What are we What are we changing it
[1:03:17]
from?
[1:03:18]
>> Yeah, so uh normally it would be October
[1:03:20]
» Yeah, so uh normally it would be October
[1:03:20]
15th each year would be the nomination
[1:03:22]
deadline.
[1:03:28]
» Right, any other questions?
[1:03:30]
Okay, the deadline to submit a
[1:03:31]
nomination for the city of Duncan Arts
[1:03:33]
Award or School of Honor Award for 2026
[1:03:37]
will only be advanced to September 15th,
[1:03:38]
2026. So, mover and seconder.
[1:03:41]
All those in favor? Any opposed? Motion
[1:03:43]
carries. Thank you very much. Thanks,
[1:03:45]
Ms. Hodgins. Building summary reports.
[1:03:48]
The council received the summary of
[1:03:49]
building permits June 2026 report of the
[1:03:51]
building inspector for information only.
[1:03:53]
Is there a mover and a seconder for
[1:03:54]
that? Are there any questions? Seeing
[1:03:57]
none, all those in favor?
[1:03:59]
Motion carries. We'll move on to Mr. De
[1:04:01]
Verteuil for bylaws for second and third
[1:04:04]
reading of the 2026 financial plight
[1:04:07]
plan bylaw amendment.
[1:04:10]
» Thank you, Mayor Stables. This is just a
[1:04:12]
bylaw amendment to
[1:04:15]
bring into the budget for 2026 the a few
[1:04:19]
of the
[1:04:21]
projects or changes approved by council
[1:04:24]
at previous meetings. So, one of which
[1:04:25]
was one I spoke to earlier in the
[1:04:28]
meeting, the Eagle Heights Reservoir
[1:04:29]
decommissioning. So, council added
[1:04:32]
$40,000 to that budget to allow for the
[1:04:35]
decommissioning of that old tank since
[1:04:37]
we already had contractors on staff or
[1:04:40]
sorry, on site.
[1:04:41]
The
[1:04:42]
the second one was an amendment to add
[1:04:45]
10,000 for some communications funding
[1:04:48]
for the boundary realignment study.
[1:04:50]
The third was adding an
[1:04:53]
some budget to for the L&B Road water
[1:04:56]
main, which was not an anticipated
[1:04:58]
project, but council approved some
[1:05:00]
funding towards the Ministry of
[1:05:01]
Transportation's request for that
[1:05:03]
upgrade.
[1:05:04]
And then lastly, the approval of
[1:05:08]
170,000 to the fire hall renovations
[1:05:11]
that we were very close to getting
[1:05:13]
started on Um imminently.
[1:05:18]
» Thank you. Are there questions for Mr.
[1:05:20]
de Verteuil on this? Councillor Bruce,
[1:05:21]
go ahead.
[1:05:23]
>> Thank you, Mayor. I I would
[1:05:26]
» Thank you, Mayor. I I would
[1:05:26]
I'd vote against against this because
[1:05:30]
I think we
[1:05:31]
we actually should abort our program on
[1:05:35]
realignment with the municipality of
[1:05:37]
North Cowichan, and I think we should
[1:05:39]
save the money,
[1:05:41]
not spend any more, pull out of it now,
[1:05:43]
cuz I don't think we have a hope in
[1:05:46]
getting it through. And I know we're in
[1:05:48]
the preliminary stages of going to see
[1:05:51]
the municipality of North Cowichan over
[1:05:53]
it, and um
[1:05:55]
and I I believe we're spending money
[1:05:59]
that we should not be spending on this
[1:06:02]
study, and I voted for it at first, and
[1:06:05]
I I'm sorry I did that now, and I would
[1:06:08]
like to uh
[1:06:10]
is there any appetite for any of us to
[1:06:13]
re- re-look at that and pull out without
[1:06:16]
spending any more money?
[1:06:18]
Thank you.
[1:06:21]
» Councillor Cups.
[1:06:25]
» Thank you. Um sorry about my voice. Um
[1:06:28]
I think perhaps just it might be prudent
[1:06:31]
to remember that the goal of the of the
[1:06:34]
realignment study is not necessarily to
[1:06:37]
realign the boundary, but
[1:06:39]
rather to study all of the complex
[1:06:42]
factors that would go into a decision
[1:06:44]
like that. I know I'm certainly not um
[1:06:48]
I supported the city embarking on this
[1:06:50]
not because I have a a prescribed
[1:06:52]
outcome that I'm hoping for, but because
[1:06:54]
it's what the citizens voted for was for
[1:06:57]
us to get more information. And so I
[1:06:59]
think it might be
[1:07:01]
a little short-sighted perhaps to
[1:07:04]
uh to want to reverse that decision
[1:07:08]
um based on
[1:07:10]
Well, I guess I can't I can't say why
[1:07:12]
why uh why one's motivations might be,
[1:07:15]
so I won't, but just I think uh
[1:07:17]
I think it would be a bit
[1:07:21]
We voted to pursue this because it's
[1:07:23]
what uh we were asked to do by the
[1:07:25]
residents, so I still I still support us
[1:07:28]
going through with it. Thank you.
[1:07:32]
» Okay.
[1:07:34]
Uh I'll read out the motion.
[1:07:37]
But
[1:07:38]
Yes, you certainly can.
[1:07:42]
>> If we spend all the money on this um
[1:07:46]
» If we spend all the money on this um
[1:07:46]
this
[1:07:47]
discovery
[1:07:49]
uh
[1:07:50]
program we're on, how much will the
[1:07:52]
total be
[1:07:54]
for this study?
[1:07:59]
» Uh the total was uh 40 for the study and
[1:08:01]
10 for the communications.
[1:08:07]
» Well, I would I would like us to discuss
[1:08:09]
the
[1:08:10]
I I feel that we're really on the wrong
[1:08:12]
wrong track, and I don't I don't want to
[1:08:14]
spend that money now. And um I don't
[1:08:17]
know if there's any other appetite for
[1:08:19]
that, but
[1:08:20]
and we you're you're asking for another
[1:08:22]
10 grand right now, is that correct?
[1:08:25]
>> So so largely uh Council Bruce, we're
[1:08:29]
» So so largely uh Council Bruce, we're
[1:08:29]
Council's already approved the
[1:08:30]
expenditure, so we've already committed
[1:08:32]
to those funds with the contractors uh
[1:08:34]
pulling out of the stage,
[1:08:36]
largely commit to all I wouldn't say
[1:08:38]
necessarily all of it, but a lot of it's
[1:08:40]
well underway.
[1:08:42]
Um this is an amendment to the budget as
[1:08:44]
directed by Council at the time.
[1:08:46]
So um
[1:08:48]
if Council was to change your minds, you
[1:08:50]
you'll you know, frankly, you would uh
[1:08:52]
have an expenditure without any outcome,
[1:08:54]
like without any information. So you're
[1:08:57]
well over probably half of the
[1:08:58]
expenditure to date.
[1:09:00]
Um with not much to show for it if you
[1:09:02]
stop now, anyway.
[1:09:04]
>> I would still like to save the 20 grand
[1:09:07]
» I would still like to save the 20 grand
[1:09:07]
that we haven't spent then.
[1:09:10]
» Councillor Duncan.
[1:09:13]
>> I think this is out of order. Um, we
[1:09:16]
» I think this is out of order. Um, we
[1:09:16]
have a motion on the floor dealing with
[1:09:18]
the Allenby Road water main, the fire
[1:09:20]
hall, uh, the communications
[1:09:24]
uh, around the boundary realignment.
[1:09:26]
There's only $10,000 in here still, so
[1:09:29]
um, you know, this there is no way to
[1:09:31]
withdraw. We've already voted on it, so
[1:09:35]
I think we're all we're talking about
[1:09:36]
here is the additional 10 required
[1:09:38]
10,000 required for
[1:09:40]
communicating the results of the study
[1:09:42]
to the people
[1:09:44]
in Duncan that asked for it to start
[1:09:46]
with.
[1:09:48]
>> Thank you.
[1:09:51]
So, that council gave first three
[1:09:53]
readings to financial plan amendment
[1:09:55]
bylaw number 3263012026, a bylaw to
[1:09:59]
amend the financial plan for 2026 to
[1:10:01]
2030. Is there a mover and a seconder?
[1:10:03]
So, any discussion on the motion that's
[1:10:05]
on the floor?
[1:10:07]
All those in favor? Any opposed?
[1:10:09]
Councillor Bruce opposed. That carries.
[1:10:11]
Thank you very much. We'll move to fees
[1:10:13]
and charges bylaw amendment, Miss
[1:10:14]
Hodgins.
[1:10:20]
» Thank you, Mayor Staples.
[1:10:22]
So, the city's utilities department has
[1:10:24]
identified that the current fees for
[1:10:26]
conducting fire hydrant flow testing
[1:10:28]
does not adequately cover the city's
[1:10:29]
costs to perform this work.
[1:10:31]
This fees and charges bylaw amendment
[1:10:33]
seeks to increase the fee for this
[1:10:34]
service to adequately cover the city's
[1:10:36]
costs.
[1:10:37]
The proposed amendment bylaw also
[1:10:39]
recommends removing the fee for property
[1:10:40]
information packages. City staff
[1:10:42]
routinely provide information to the
[1:10:44]
public on a variety of topics,
[1:10:46]
and the amount of staff time required to
[1:10:48]
respond to the property information
[1:10:49]
requests is minimal and not
[1:10:51]
significantly different from other
[1:10:52]
information requests where a fee is not
[1:10:54]
charged. Thank you.
[1:10:56]
>> Thank you.
[1:10:58]
» Thank you.
[1:10:58]
Did council give first readings to the
[1:10:59]
fees and uh charges amendment bylaw
[1:11:02]
number 3212.13
[1:11:04]
2026 the bylaw to amend fire hydrant
[1:11:06]
flow testing report fees and other house
[1:11:07]
keeping housekeeping amendments. Is
[1:11:10]
there a mover and a seconder?
[1:11:11]
Any discussion? Questions? All those in
[1:11:14]
favor? Motion carries.
[1:11:16]
Uh new business, we have the British
[1:11:19]
Home Children Day Proclamation request
[1:11:20]
that council proclaim September 28th,
[1:11:22]
2026 as British Home Children Day in the
[1:11:24]
city of Duncan. Is there a mover and a
[1:11:26]
seconder?
[1:11:27]
Any discussion?
[1:11:29]
Councilor Bruce, go ahead.
[1:11:32]
» [clears throat]
[1:11:32]
>> I'm just I know that we have a lot of
[1:11:34]
» I'm just I know that we have a lot of
[1:11:34]
these these proclamations
[1:11:36]
and
[1:11:38]
they mean nothing and I and I'm just
[1:11:42]
wondering
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could we have a list of all the
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proclamations that we have put put
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through um this council in the last I've
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been here 8 years now been here and uh
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there must be a pile of them and I don't
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know that they mean anything to anybody
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and uh
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I I
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I vote for these things generally
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speaking but is it not time to uh
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uh halt some of this British Home
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Children Day Proclamation request? Um
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what is that?
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» Uh thank you through Mayor Stable to
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Councilor Bruce. So, um this is a day of
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recognition to recognize um children who
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were sent to um to Canada
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um orphans who were um uh sent to
[1:12:35]
families in Canada and um often their
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uh treatment maybe wasn't wasn't very
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good and so there is this day to
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recognize um what they experienced um
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those children coming to Canada. Um we
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do have a list of all the proclamations.
[1:12:49]
Um when council approves a proclamation,
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it does go on our website so we do have
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a list and I'd be happy to circulate
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that to council so you can see the ones
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that we've done.
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» And I would just like to say that they
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do mean something to the people that
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bring them forward and to the people's
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families and to the people affected by
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this. I've sat with um with families um
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uh and learned a lot about the British
[1:13:12]
Home Children over the years and so um
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yes, they it definitely has deep meaning
[1:13:17]
for a lot of people in our community. We
[1:13:19]
were one of the communities that people
[1:13:21]
were sent that children were sent to.
[1:13:24]
Uh is there any further discussion about
[1:13:26]
the motion on the floor and not
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proclamations in general?
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Councilor Bruce.
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>> Um does it does it take staff time
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» Um does it does it take staff time
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to do all to do the these proclamations?
[1:13:37]
Does it take staff time?
[1:13:39]
>> So that would be a discussion about
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» So that would be a discussion about
[1:13:40]
proclamations.
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Specifically, if we'd like to have a
[1:13:44]
discussion about proclamations at the
[1:13:45]
table, we can ask staff to bring the
[1:13:47]
list of proclamations and have a
[1:13:49]
discussion. Um but the the staff is also
[1:13:52]
welcome to answer the question as it's
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come up.
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» Uh through the mayor to Councilor Bruce,
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um it's fairly minimal. The requestors
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are required to provide the uh
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proclamation that they would like, so
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it's not uh us drafting those and so we
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present it to council for consideration.
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» Thank you.
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And there's a motion on the floor. Um
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all those in favor.
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Any opposed? Motion carries.
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Uh Councilor Kaps, over to you for 9.2.
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» Would you like me to read?
[1:14:29]
>> Hi.
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» Hi.
[1:14:30]
Sorry, [clears throat] apologies. Just
[1:14:32]
my voice is a little bit rough because
[1:14:33]
I'm homesick. Um
[1:14:35]
>> It's okay.
[1:14:35]
» It's okay.
[1:14:35]
>> I didn't know I would need to introduce
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» I didn't know I would need to introduce
[1:14:38]
uh this one, but it's uh
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>> Read out the motion. To read out the
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» Read out the motion. To read out the
[1:14:42]
motion.
[1:14:43]
>> Sorry, pardon me. The council declare
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» Sorry, pardon me. The council declare
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the
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city of Duncan an apartheid free city
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and sign the apartheid free city pledge.
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Which I believe was attached. Thank you.
[1:14:53]
>> Is there a seconder for that? Is there
[1:14:55]
» Is there a seconder for that? Is there
[1:14:56]
any discussion?
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All those in favor?
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Motion carries. Thank you.
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And we'll move to reports of mayor and
[1:15:02]
council. Are there any council members
[1:15:04]
who wish to make a report this evening?
[1:15:13]
Anyone else?
[1:15:14]
Councillor Newington?
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Anyone else?
[1:15:25]
So, we'll start with Councillor Duncan.
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>> Okay, thank thank you, Your Worship. Um
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» Okay, thank thank you, Your Worship. Um
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yeah, on behalf of uh Duncan Council, I
[1:15:31]
attended the opening of the 39 Days and
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welcomed the people to come to town and
[1:15:36]
spend their money.
[1:15:37]
Uh
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and I also attended with other members
[1:15:40]
of council the fire department night, an
[1:15:42]
opportunity to meet some of our new uh
[1:15:45]
firefighters,
[1:15:47]
uh and to see some of the equipment in
[1:15:49]
use, uh and took a ride up on the
[1:15:52]
ladder.
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And I also attended the with other
[1:15:56]
council members the Minister of State uh
[1:15:58]
meeting. Um one of the things that I
[1:16:01]
spoke about there was the traffic
[1:16:03]
conditions. We really, and it's been
[1:16:05]
brought up that you know, this is the
[1:16:08]
I guess the the knot between the two
[1:16:11]
large uh
[1:16:12]
cities on the island, and there doesn't
[1:16:14]
seem to be a way to deal with it. We
[1:16:17]
don't, you know, we pointed out that
[1:16:19]
we can't really look at expanding the
[1:16:22]
road between the bridge and and Beverly
[1:16:24]
uh
[1:16:25]
and also we spoke to her about uh the
[1:16:28]
village and how we we feel that it's a
[1:16:30]
success it's a success, and also
[1:16:33]
uh that it should be added to the
[1:16:35]
continuum of housing with BC Housing.
[1:16:39]
>> Thank you.
[1:16:40]
» Thank you.
[1:16:40]
Councillor Newington?
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>> Well, Councilor Bruce has still stolen
[1:16:44]
» Well, Councilor Bruce has still stolen
[1:16:44]
my thunder. Cuz those are basically the
[1:16:47]
same what I was going to say.
[1:16:50]
Oh, Councilor Duncan, I'm sorry. I'm
[1:16:52]
looking at Councilor Bruce. Councilor
[1:16:53]
Duncan.
[1:16:54]
Um
[1:16:55]
Yeah, the other thing I want to say is
[1:16:57]
it certainly has been wonderful with 39
[1:16:59]
days this year. Um there've been some
[1:17:01]
great local people
[1:17:03]
and particularly the dancers. I don't
[1:17:06]
know if anybody's had an opportunity to
[1:17:07]
see any of the dancers.
[1:17:09]
Um but the young people that have been
[1:17:11]
dancing have just been absolutely
[1:17:13]
wonderful.
[1:17:14]
Um but yes,
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we've all done
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what Councilor Duncan said. We just let
[1:17:20]
him be our spokesperson. Thank you.
[1:17:24]
» Thank you. Is there any other councilor
[1:17:25]
who'd like to make a report about
[1:17:27]
anything?
[1:17:28]
No? Okay.
[1:17:30]
I will move on to my report, which will
[1:17:32]
actually be very brief this evening.
[1:17:34]
I think anyways.
[1:17:36]
Um because it feels like there's been a
[1:17:37]
lot happening and uh and also I I feel
[1:17:42]
like it's hard to even gather my
[1:17:43]
thoughts around everything. I would like
[1:17:45]
to just acknowledge that Brittany Anders
[1:17:48]
uh Minister Anderson's visit. It was I
[1:17:50]
got to be with her at the CVRD and here.
[1:17:52]
And uh for those of you who don't know
[1:17:54]
her, she is incredibly understanding and
[1:17:58]
recognizes the challenges and really
[1:18:00]
does advocate well on our behalf in her
[1:18:02]
role. And I really appreciate uh working
[1:18:05]
with her and she does open up a lot of
[1:18:07]
space for us to bring issues to her. And
[1:18:09]
she does follow through um
[1:18:11]
with the the channels going through the
[1:18:13]
channels that they need to be brought
[1:18:15]
forward in and uh yeah, I just really
[1:18:17]
acknowledge and appreciate her.
[1:18:19]
I also want to acknowledge our fire
[1:18:21]
department uh for the the the fire that
[1:18:24]
happened the other day um and our
[1:18:27]
neighboring fire departments who came
[1:18:28]
out to support.
[1:18:30]
Uh and you know, there is a lot of sort
[1:18:34]
of talk in communities about the places
[1:18:36]
that um
[1:18:38]
that we don't work together. Um there's
[1:18:40]
little recognition of all of the times
[1:18:41]
that we do. We work together far more
[1:18:44]
often than we do not.
[1:18:46]
And we may disagree on things, and we
[1:18:48]
may not look at things the same way, um
[1:18:50]
but we are always there for each other.
[1:18:51]
And that was demonstrated again um by
[1:18:54]
that fire and the way that that fire was
[1:18:55]
managed. I believe there was 30
[1:18:57]
firefighters on site that day. Uh they
[1:19:00]
had to rotate out because of the
[1:19:02]
temperature outside as well as the
[1:19:03]
temperature of the fire, so they were
[1:19:04]
rotating in and out. And uh
[1:19:08]
and you know, they saved that building
[1:19:10]
from being damaged much, much worse than
[1:19:12]
than it was. Um that just the the way
[1:19:15]
that the community came together and the
[1:19:17]
the responders that deal with um
[1:19:20]
um
[1:19:21]
that deal with the people who are being
[1:19:23]
displaced from their homes and how well
[1:19:25]
they everyone was taken care of. I heard
[1:19:28]
comment after comment after comment of
[1:19:30]
people sharing with me um just all the
[1:19:33]
things that they saw were about people
[1:19:34]
taking care of each other and people
[1:19:36]
helping and supporting each other.
[1:19:37]
And you know, these are things that it I
[1:19:40]
did mention this in in some recent
[1:19:42]
social media.
[1:19:44]
And uh and these are things that people
[1:19:45]
still don't seem to
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I'm not sure why, but you know, want to
[1:19:51]
recognize in community. We heard from
[1:19:53]
the RCMP uh staff sergeant today about
[1:19:57]
the challenges and and what they deal
[1:19:58]
with on a daily basis and a monthly
[1:20:00]
basis. And we know those things, and
[1:20:02]
we're well aware of them.
[1:20:03]
And often times issues of um of uh that
[1:20:07]
that are, you know, failures of our
[1:20:09]
system that we're witnessing right now
[1:20:12]
um with not having enough housing, not
[1:20:13]
having mental health supports
[1:20:15]
um with the growing issue of of um
[1:20:18]
income disparity um with with with so so
[1:20:22]
many systemic issues piled on top of
[1:20:23]
each other and systems that are under so
[1:20:25]
much pressure, we don't acknowledge that
[1:20:28]
the wrong people are dealing with these
[1:20:29]
issues right now. The police is dealing
[1:20:31]
with them because there's no one else
[1:20:32]
dealing with them.
[1:20:34]
And and so um
[1:20:37]
you know, we continue to advocate for
[1:20:38]
the needs of our community. We've done a
[1:20:39]
great job of advocating for our
[1:20:42]
community, and yet we still see the
[1:20:44]
problems getting bigger.
[1:20:46]
And we still see the wrong people having
[1:20:47]
to be, you know, having to be dealt or
[1:20:50]
having them dealt with in the wrong way.
[1:20:53]
And so um people like, you know, um
[1:20:56]
Minister Anderson when she comes, she
[1:20:58]
understands that and there are very
[1:20:59]
there are other ministers that do as
[1:21:01]
well. But we really
[1:21:03]
need more so than ever to remember as a
[1:21:05]
community
[1:21:07]
um
[1:21:08]
you know, how to
[1:21:10]
how to support each other, which we
[1:21:12]
do often, but also how we speak about
[1:21:16]
each other and the community that we
[1:21:17]
live in.
[1:21:18]
That's also very important. And it gets
[1:21:21]
a bit
[1:21:23]
exhausting, I guess is the one word. Um
[1:21:26]
but it's disappointing to see people rip
[1:21:28]
apart their community because of
[1:21:30]
um when all of these people, you know,
[1:21:32]
hundreds and hundreds of people are
[1:21:34]
coming together to try to do what they
[1:21:35]
can to take care of of what they can in
[1:21:38]
ways that just are not being as
[1:21:40]
effective as they are because it's
[1:21:42]
simply
[1:21:43]
there is not the support where it needs
[1:21:45]
to be.
[1:21:46]
And so I just, you know, implore people
[1:21:48]
to redirect that energy into um you
[1:21:52]
know, letter writing
[1:21:54]
phoning, doing whatever you can to the
[1:21:56]
levels of government that need to invest
[1:21:57]
into those those needs in all of our
[1:22:00]
communities, not just ours.
[1:22:02]
And when we're out in community, you
[1:22:04]
know, to to
[1:22:07]
make sure that we're acknowledging the
[1:22:09]
beauty of the place that we live in,
[1:22:10]
too. Because two things, you know, can
[1:22:12]
be true at the same time. And there's a
[1:22:14]
lot of people suffering and it's I can't
[1:22:16]
imagine
[1:22:17]
being in those positions of suffering
[1:22:18]
that much and um and constantly having
[1:22:22]
to read that how you are the problem
[1:22:24]
when
[1:22:24]
it is a system that is failing you that
[1:22:26]
is the problem. And
[1:22:28]
what we're seeing is the results of
[1:22:29]
that.
[1:22:31]
So, that is my soapbox for this evening.
[1:22:34]
Uh thank you, and
[1:22:37]
uh there's 6 days left, I believe, of
[1:22:40]
the 39 days of July. Look at me get that
[1:22:43]
right for the first time in years.
[1:22:45]
I have this 39 days of summer thing
[1:22:47]
stuck in my head, and I just can't get
[1:22:48]
it out. Um but yeah, make your way out
[1:22:51]
if you haven't already. It's been
[1:22:53]
incredible. The Long John and his team
[1:22:55]
have done a phenomenal job, as always.
[1:22:57]
And there is nothing like seeing City
[1:23:00]
Square in the parking lots and
[1:23:02]
uh and the parks filled up with uh
[1:23:04]
people
[1:23:05]
uh laughing and enjoying themselves and
[1:23:06]
dancing and
[1:23:08]
uh yeah, reminding us of all the good
[1:23:11]
things in our community.
[1:23:13]
So, we will go into
[1:23:19]
uh question period. Do we have any
[1:23:21]
questions, Ms. Hodgins?
[1:23:27]
Okay.
[1:23:28]
And we'll go into a motion to close that
[1:23:29]
the meeting be closed to the public
[1:23:31]
under the following sections of the
[1:23:32]
community charter to discuss matters
[1:23:34]
related to personal information, section
[1:23:36]
91A of personal information about an
[1:23:39]
identifiable individual who holds or is
[1:23:41]
being considered for a position as an
[1:23:43]
officer, employee, or agent of the
[1:23:44]
municipality, or another position
[1:23:46]
appointed by the municipality. Employee
[1:23:48]
relations, sections 91C, labor
[1:23:50]
relations, or other employee relations.
[1:23:52]
We'll take a 7-minute adjournment. 8
[1:23:55]
minutes. Let's come back at 7:30 and
[1:23:57]
give people a chance to stretch. Thanks,
[1:23:59]
everyone.