[0:03] You're good to go?

[0:05] It's 6-9 p.m. I'm calling to order a special meeting of the technical arts commission.

[0:14] We

[0:17] do have one public comment that came via email sent

[0:27] to Mr. Handy on July 16, 2025 from the Journey Dance Center.

[0:33] Subject is arts commission public comment July 16, 2025.

[0:37] It's from Miata Metzger, 219 South Cedar Ridge Drive, Ducalville, Suffrage, and Old Sex.

[0:45] And my apologies if I mispronounce your name.

[0:47] My name is Miata Metzger, and I'm the owner of the Journey Dance Center located here in Ducalville.

[0:53] I'm here today to express my strong support for the proposed ARC grants.

[0:58] These grants are not just financial allocations, they are vital investments in the future of our community's artistic landscape

[1:04] and the development of our young talent.

[1:07] For our organization, the availability of these grants

[1:10] would be transformative.

[1:12] Specifically, these funds would allow us

[1:14] to significantly expand our scholarship programs,

[1:18] make our education accessible to a broader range of students

[1:21] who might otherwise be unable to participate

[1:23] due to financial burdens.

[1:26] This directly translates into more opportunities

[1:29] for expiring artists to hone their skills

[1:31] and pursue their passions.

[1:32] Furthermore, the grants have provided much needed assistance in funding our annual recital.

[1:38] This event is a quarter stone of our program, offering students an invaluable platform to showcase their hard work and dedication.

[1:46] It is also a cherished community event that celebrates local talent and brings people together.

[1:51] The financial support from these grants would ensure the continued high quality and accessibility of this important tradition.

[1:58] investing in these art grants is an investment in the artistic enrichment of

[2:01] our community, the development of our youth, and the continued vitality of local

[2:06] arts programs. I urge the committee to approve these grants. Thank you much for

[2:10] your time and consideration.

[2:13] And Alex, that is the only public comment? That is

[2:17] the only. We're going to go ahead and move on to the meat of this. So if I

[2:25] I could maybe start with a bit of a slide challenge.

[2:31] So I was going to give you a little bit of a lead in.

[2:33] Oh, go for it.

[2:34] Thanks.

[2:34] So we're here today to review and consider

[2:37] making recommendations for the City Council regarding

[2:39] archery and applications submitted during the June 2025

[2:41] grant application cycle.

[2:44] Our staff liaison, Alex Hamby, has some information

[2:48] regarding fund availability in the Denver Alarchs Fund.

[2:53] So, Mr. Handy, you have the floor.

[2:55] So I met with Richard Jackson, the Managing Director of Physical Services today, so I

[3:01] can make sure that everybody had a clear idea as far as the available funding.

[3:07] So the first thing that we went and looked at was what was currently in the fund.

[3:13] The current, wait a minute, let me backtrack.

[3:17] This is the total amount that's being requested in all of these grants combined, as they

[3:22] were submitted. So it is $88,192 total dollars that is being requested across these 15 grants.

[3:31] So during my conversation with Richard, I wanted to make sure that there was a proper framework

[3:34] of how much money was available for you to recommend the City Council spend on these grants.

[3:40] So we started with going into the fund ballot, into the account inquiry, and looking at how

[3:45] much money is actually in the account as of now. As of this morning, as of this

[3:50] afternoon, it was $85,104.44. That is two transfers from the hotel

[3:57] occupancy tax so far this year has made up that total amount. After you all went

[4:04] to City Council, you asked for $20,000 for three events, which included the

[4:09] the Juneteenth weekday, week-long event, the Hispanic Heritage event, and the Arts and

[4:17] Business Fixer.

[4:18] That leaves a balance of $65,104 that is not encumbered or is not committed by your request.

[4:30] So then I asked him, what is a recommended total expenditure for this grant cycle?

[4:37] So, the thing to keep in mind is while there is the 80-something thousand dollars in there,

[4:44] the budgeted amount was $50,000.

[4:47] That is how much was budgeted.

[4:49] So while there is money in there, it's how much is budgeted is what is available to

[4:55] spend.

[4:56] And you're spending $20,000 of that.

[4:58] Is that budgeted for the grants or is that budgeted for what?

[5:02] That's just budgeted.

[5:03] your expenses for so far.

[5:07] So because that, when they did the budget last year,

[5:09] they put in how much was the anticipated income,

[5:13] which was an estimate,

[5:14] and then budgeted an expense amount.

[5:16] So they just did a number that they predicted

[5:20] because of the fact that this is the first time

[5:22] there's an arts fund, first time having this body

[5:25] being involved in such a thing.

[5:27] At first, they picked numbers.

[5:30] So, they budgeted $50,000, of which $20,000 you've already asked for.

[5:37] As part of this process, Richard has recommended that I take a Resolution of City Council next

[5:46] month requesting an appropriation of $30,000 from the ARCS Fund, the unappropriated funds

[5:56] funds to move into the appropriated funds for you to apply to these grants, which would

[6:01] make the total amount $60,000 it's available to you tonight to recommend in these grants.

[6:11] Trying to make sure that I don't leave anything out of this, I was asked when is the next

[6:15] budget transfer that will be in August, so there will be funds for the next Arts

[6:20] Commission to work with from this fiscal year that they'll be able to work with

[6:25] for the next grant cycle, next grant cycle,

[6:27] the application window September 1st through the 30th,

[6:30] October is going to be when they review the,

[6:33] when they review those grant applications,

[6:35] and remember that will be the new makeup

[6:38] of the Arts Commission, and then that will be,

[6:41] that will go to City Council the month after that.

[6:44] So that's important, because recall,

[6:46] we had talked about moving my hand forward

[6:49] to the next Arts Commission,

[6:50] so that they would start with zero.

[6:52] So that's something that won't necessarily be a burden.

[6:58] That was going to be my question.

[6:59] If we save money for the next fiscal year, what will that come from the 60th?

[7:10] There's another policy to transfer to August.

[7:12] It's actually going to come from an August transfer.

[7:15] So are we saving some back for the next?

[7:21] That is that does take care of it. So the August this is the 60,000 is what is available now after the appropriation of the funds that's currently in the balance.

[7:32] The next fund transfer that will happen in August will actually help the next Arts Commission and that next grant cycle.

[7:39] So as of right now, realistically, we're saying that about 40 around $42,000 each deposit has been made.

[7:47] there's been two deposits made, correct?

[7:49] So we're averaging, so we're thinking about

[7:52] that average for August to come in for the transfer

[7:56] is gonna be around $40,000 to $43,000, something like that.

[8:00] Based on the last two transfers?

[8:02] He said that that's not easily predicted.

[8:05] I mean, you can guesstimate,

[8:07] but not gonna know until it comes in,

[8:10] because again, that depends on the hotel's business.

[8:12] I'm also the first transferred.

[8:14] I have to look it up.

[8:16] It was, I mean, you're right, but the next transfer,

[8:20] there's no way to know exactly what that dollar amount is

[8:23] because the first transfer was higher than the second one.

[8:26] The third one could be either higher or lower.

[8:29] It's just, I mean, the easy-

[8:31] There's gonna be some sort of surplus going into-

[8:33] Yes, yes.

[8:34] Okay.

[8:36] All right, so any other questions

[8:38] on the left of the hand that you just discussed?

[8:41] A second.

[8:44] So we have,

[8:46] You mentioned that you requested that the council,

[8:51] if you will be requesting meeting the council, move an additional $30,000.

[8:56] Or what did I request for that, because I-

[9:00] It'll be taking a resolution for them to consider to appropriate $30,000 from the unappropriated funds.

[9:08] So that will add to the $30,000 balance that is still sitting there of appropriated funds to bring you to $60,000.

[9:18] So Ron's calculation of 91,000 is incorrect, it wasn't quite correct, because they...

[9:26] No, I put another one in here, it was incorrect.

[9:28] And I didn't bother to tell another email because it would be another email.

[9:32] The current total is 88,192.

[9:35] I got it.

[9:39] I put two in there that didn't work.

[9:43] All right, any other questions I want Mr. Hungry is okay, so first of all three I am a little housekeeping

[9:55] Mayor Pro Tem Gooden so she was not gonna be able to attend tonight because she

[9:59] wanted to ask to be able to to really lean in this without any counsel looking

[10:03] over her shoulder. She's just good luck. She trusts her arts commission and I am

[10:10] I'm so happy to see a full table.

[10:14] I want to tell you right now Mr. Hamby

[10:15] has done a lot of heavy lifting to make this work.

[10:22] I want us to be able to move forward with confidence

[10:26] that what we're doing today has never been done before.

[10:29] Whatever your experience is with DCBC or City Council,

[10:32] this is new.

[10:34] Whatever your experience is with other foundations

[10:35] or your bank or other people, this is new.

[10:39] Right now there's a lot of attention on this policy

[10:42] because it's a really good policy.

[10:46] So what we're doing tonight will be test drug limits.

[10:51] So I want us to move forward in confidence

[10:53] that if we don't know what we're doing or if we get confused,

[10:58] we talk about it.

[10:59] We open.

[11:00] I'm confused.

[11:01] If you haven't had a chance to read all the applications

[11:05] or if there's something that you haven't read, tell us.

[11:08] It does not mean your voice is any less important.

[11:11] and does not mean your opinion is not really important,

[11:13] but it helps us understand volume.

[11:16] Alex has been really trying to figure out

[11:19] what the process to make this work,

[11:21] but understand today, tonight.

[11:24] This is not gonna be a conversation about process

[11:26] and it's not gonna be a conversation about policy

[11:28] because that's not what this meeting is about.

[11:30] What I would ask you to do, as you go along

[11:34] and if there's something about the process

[11:36] that you think can be improved that you didn't like

[11:38] that bugged you, write it down

[11:40] what you're thinking on, write it down what's hot in your memory because we're

[11:43] going to have an additional meeting to talk about the process, the policy. I'm

[11:48] imagining that now that you had a chance to use the policy, we've probably had a

[11:52] chance to figure out maybe we need to go back and look at some things on it.

[11:58] So

[11:58] to get us started, you know, we went off into our little private spaces and

[12:04] there was no precedent and we just kind of started figuring out the way

[12:07] that we could do this based on our own life experience.

[12:10] So what I would like to do is, I would like first

[12:13] to go around the table and just really briefly explain

[12:18] the process by which you reviewed it

[12:20] and how you made determinations.

[12:22] Do not go into detail, we'll talk about that.

[12:24] So this way it'll give us a baseline

[12:27] on which to just to move forward on.

[12:31] Once we've done that and we all kind of figure out

[12:33] what are the way that we worked,

[12:36] Mr. Hanby, don't get these out of order. The applications were alphabetical order from

[12:40] the top. He has some slides we're going to go through. As we move forward, I'm going

[12:45] to ask each one of you to just go around, because it's going to be a long meeting. We

[12:49] all need to talk, to introduce the application. If you haven't read the application and

[12:55] it's your turn to look, just let us know and that's okay.

[13:00] Something to think

[13:01] about. Did anybody watch City Council last night? Is anybody there? So you'll

[13:08] notice, if you watched it, what irritated is the attorney more than anything,

[13:15] right?

[13:18] He had mentioned opinions are wonderful, but they don't matter. It's what's on the

[13:24] record. So we don't have an arts policy. We don't have a strategic plan and we

[13:30] don't have a cultural plan. What we have is our funding policy and what we

[13:34] have is the Texas suit step. That's the hot evaluation. Those are the only things

[13:40] that are on the record for us to consider. So as we move forward on this, we

[13:46] have to make recommendations to the city council in a way that they make

[13:50] decisions. So if there's an opinion, if there's a comment, if there's an idea,

[13:56] if you're able to cite anything in the policies, one of those two policies.

[14:01] If you've used, like, something else, another document,

[14:04] if you could tell us when you do it, so it's going to be on the record.

[14:08] So, when Mr. Hamby presents to the city council,

[14:13] and there's a question about something,

[14:16] Mr. Hamby can go back and say,

[14:17] well, this was the source material from which they used.

[14:20] This was up on the record.

[14:22] And they can go back and say,

[14:23] well, page 10 on this policy, on the city funding policy,

[14:28] state. So this was the conversation. So what we don't want is to have Mr.

[14:33] Hamby from the City Council and not have them prepared and have the City

[14:37] Attorney yell at the City Council because then they won't trust our

[14:41] recommendations ever. Does that make sense? Okay so what I would like to do is

[14:48] I'll get the ball started and then I would like I just want to know

[14:51] everybody's process and that way we understand. If you haven't noticed I

[14:57] I tend to be an overthinker.

[14:58] I went through

[15:00] To all the applications, I am a memo writer.

[15:05] I didn't take any consideration of my personal

[15:08] opinions or what I liked about something. I didn't look at the artistic integrity I looked

[15:12] at. This was the funding policy. This is the hot two step. Could I justify this and this

[15:18] at the same time? Then for everyone, I wrote this memo. This memo is actually to you

[15:23] guys, but because it would look like I was trying to persuade you of thinking and opinion,

[15:27] and I did not forward it to you but beforehand.

[15:30] And so what I did for myself,

[15:32] because I will get signed on ahead

[15:35] and forget what I'm thinking about,

[15:37] I have in there why I think it's eligible for this,

[15:40] why I think it's eligible for this,

[15:42] why I don't think it's eligible for this,

[15:43] and I have this document, so if we wanna leave it,

[15:46] so when we're done, I can leave it part

[15:47] of the public record and if anybody wants to go

[15:49] and read my notes, I can read my notes.

[15:51] So that was my process.

[15:54] Let's start with the vice chair and we can just go around.

[15:58] I took old school notes for each one.

[16:03] I used two documents, the policy, thought policy.

[16:11] I focused on the requirements, the eligibility, the fund limit,

[16:16] the uses requirement for each type.

[16:21] And then I used the Texas two-step, but I was really still kind of confused on the first step, which is the beds, heads and beds.

[16:30] And so page seven of this unabridged version, I really focused in on and I'd like to share some of those when it's appropriate.

[16:41] But that was my call process. I looked at those two things and it could, you know, did these things.

[16:48] and to follow the text is two-step, that was what I based my thoughts on.

[16:55] That's why.

[16:56] So I kind of did the same thing as Mac.

[16:58] I just went and utilized the policy we've already put together,

[17:02] and I kind of compared that to the type of application it was,

[17:05] and I really kind of, there are certain things, of course,

[17:08] we're going to highlight more in the other video or whatever,

[17:10] but I really wanted to keep it centralized in the qualifications

[17:14] and the requirements that we set forth

[17:16] and make sure that they're wide in depth.

[17:22] I used weighted categories for the two steps

[17:30] and for the artistic merit.

[17:34] The others were not as important and were smaller,

[17:36] and that helped me get to the conclusion.

[17:40] I think I would redo the weights.

[17:43] I don't know if they're what I would use again,

[17:45] but it was possible.

[17:49] I used Marianne's rubric and particularly focused on the Duncanville connection.

[17:56] I wish I had, I had several questions about locations and I wish I had had time to drive around and see some of these,

[18:03] where the mural would go on this first one.

[18:06] And so I did read them all and think about them.

[18:11] I didn't really score them though.

[18:13] That's okay. Thank you.

[18:16] Yeah, so I was able to glance not like thoroughly, but I was able to glance through most of these applications.

[18:22] And the thing that I was looking for was uniqueness and how it involves other communities and how that could, I guess, put heads in beds.

[18:33] You know, I kind of would think about that as a more than one-day event, or even if it's a one-day event, is it an all-day event

[18:40] that will maybe persuade people to stay here and eat dinner,

[18:43] and maybe just get a room or something, who knows.

[18:46] But that was my sense of the word.

[18:48] Thanks, Sarah.

[18:49] Sam.

[18:51] Yeah, I went through the PDFs on the computer.

[18:55] I think I was missing a couple, probably lost

[18:58] in the many emails, so it's OK.

[19:01] Because some didn't really kind of know how much they

[19:03] asking for, in the process that I found.

[19:09] I, you know, I based it on the hot, whether or not

[19:13] a hot qualifier, it's based on my understanding of it

[19:16] and the doctor nuts, the trainings we've had,

[19:19] the panacea, and all that kind of stuff.

[19:22] And trying to understand how it would affect tourism

[19:25] and community, each application.

[19:28] And also, I thought about, well,

[19:30] Well, what if this is the first of an annual thing?

[19:34] And in the future, it might become a really big thing

[19:36] and really attract tourists and over the next days.

[19:40] But if it's not supported from the beginning,

[19:42] how can it get to that place where it can be big enough

[19:44] to, in the future, be a thing?

[19:48] And so I considered that when I was trying to think of it.

[19:53] I had no, I didn't do any totals on the numbers.

[19:56] So I didn't know, you know, just, that was my criteria, you know,

[20:04] whether that would be handled for more than what we had.

[20:09] Thank you.

[20:10] Amy?

[20:11] I'm really similar in that.

[20:14] I really tried to think through what was just said,

[20:17] our knowledge of hot thumbs and how they're supposed to be applied

[20:21] and used based on the presentation that's done by the person

[20:26] the same thing about this in the planning knowledge.

[20:28] I mean, everything in our guidelines

[20:30] as well, what we've set forth is the elderly and the climate

[20:33] and the application of them.

[20:35] I didn't school them either.

[20:36] I didn't know the other two were

[20:38] how we were going to approach this decision, right?

[20:41] We certainly are driven.

[20:43] I think specifically, I think one of our cards

[20:46] is going to start to be, to remember that really often

[20:50] it has to promote at least the effort

[20:54] to put it back into that test to be there.

[20:56] I remember the previous director of economic development

[21:00] telling me, it's hard.

[21:02] You're predicting, is it going to be for sure?

[21:05] No, no.

[21:06] It's kind of like not being able to predict the funding,

[21:09] but it doesn't have a likelihood of putting head to head.

[21:12] To me, that's pretty early in the system of criteria.

[21:16] But it's always been through the years

[21:17] that's important for the outcomes.

[21:19] Mr. Angela?

[21:21] OK.

[21:21] I read through all the expectations and basically look at our funding policy and the hot funds

[21:27] and I just use the matrix that Maryanne just said to the buy line up and then as I read

[21:37] through it and did my own little assessments and so forth, I did my own internal score.

[21:44] And as you're hearing how everybody does things, I've already heard things that people

[21:47] going to improve remember write the notes down because we're doing this. So I was telling Alex a

[21:54] joke today I got a call from Marianne and she says well do we have a rubric? I said did you make a

[21:57] rubric? No then we don't have a rubric. Matt calls me we have a checklist you can make a checklist

[22:01] no then we don't have a checklist so it's like whatever we create here tonight is what's

[22:07] going to set the standard. So does everybody it sounds like everybody kind of understands

[22:10] how we approached it.

[22:14] In your notes for the next meeting if there's anything

[22:17] thing that you found frustrating about accessing the information, be sure to put

[22:20] in your notes because we'll need to talk about that in a minute. So would

[22:28] you like to

[22:28] go and get started in the applications?

[22:33] These slides shows are very very short.

[22:36] First one is Beacons of Light. This is a public art grant request. The project

[22:42] summary, which I'm sure you've all read, Kailin Wye McGuire of Kailin

[22:46] McGuire Media will paint a mural on the side wall of the Texaco building

[22:50] building property near Brandenburg Intermediate School in Duncanville, Texas.

[22:54] The artwork reflects the youth of Duncanville as rising champions in the community.

[22:59] As students pass by this public art on their way to school,

[23:03] they will be reminded of their championhood, which can positively influence their academic performance and behavior.

[23:09] In addition, the mural is projected to inspire, enrich, and empower the city of Duncanville.

[23:14] It will be esteemed by both citizens and tourists as a landmark that celebrates the spirit of the community.

[23:19] and serves as a catalyst to support Nougatville's 2040 comprehensive plan and

[23:24] had seen cultural arts and economic development throughout the city. The

[23:29] request of the total project budget as put in the application was $4,053.75 the

[23:36] requested amount is $3,000 which is in alignment with the max with with the

[23:45] top request for that grant category.

[23:48] If

[23:57] you just put 41 inches back for three inches,

[24:00] are you assuming that she just used

[24:02] the professional inch marks incorrectly?

[24:06] Am I correct for that assessment?

[24:10] I don't know.

[24:11] So he's a got to, by the way.

[24:14] It's all relative.

[24:14] If you stand up real close to it, it looks different.

[24:18] So I want to, here's how I approach this, and then I'll like first of all, I want every

[24:25] voice on this.

[24:27] Remember he was the gentleman who came at the last meeting, he spoke.

[24:33] I looked at two things and I tried to justify it based on the two things.

[24:38] I said, based on hot rules, is it eligible for funding?

[24:42] I said, yes, the proposed mural project qualifies under the two staff.

[24:47] I said, identify ways it's eligible, public art as a tourism asset.

[24:53] I also cited the Tunkville 2040 draft to use cultural tourism aligned with the comprehensive

[25:02] plan by explicitly branding the mural as a civic symbol where champions rise, it connects

[25:09] to the city's broader identity, particularly Dr. Ville's national reputation as city champions.

[25:15] This gives the mural symbolic tourism value, especially for families visiting

[25:19] for sporting events, community festivals, or cultural program.

[25:25] Continuous passive tourism attractions. We've all talked about this, the function of a

[25:29] mural being 24-7 Visibility in the location on Main Street. Digital engagement with the

[25:37] tourism. He included a QR code leading to the city's website with his profile

[25:42] which provides trackable data that can measure external engagement, tourism

[25:47] behavior, even if the mural is on itself a ticketed attraction. The data strategy

[25:52] directly supports the kind of accountability expected from hot funds

[25:55] as Ms. Jackson talked about the trying to make it work. The applicant

[26:00] references models like Miami's Windwood Walls,

[26:03] public art, catalyzed tourism and economic development.

[26:07] I went ahead as an intellectual experiment

[26:11] and to identify what would make it ineligible.

[26:14] I thought, well, if the project did not attract

[26:15] or attempt to attract tourists or overnight visitors,

[26:18] if it were not accessible by the public,

[26:21] if it prompted political, religious or private

[26:23] non-public content or events,

[26:25] if it required,

[26:28] and if any of these documentations were missing.

[26:32] I went on to identify whether it is eligible by city arts funding policy.

[26:36] I said yes, that it does meet the eligibility, eligibility.

[26:42] It takes place in Duncanville, it's public accessible, it includes property owner permission,

[26:47] it falls within the budget cap, it includes visual art as a primary artistic medium,

[26:51] and it provides a complete application package with the narrative budget documentation.

[26:58] And I went ahead and documented what I thought were the merits based on hot eligibility.

[27:03] Tourism alignment, project is situated in a visible, frequently located location, described

[27:10] as part of a larger effort to stimulate the economic and cultural development is aligned

[27:14] with the Dundable 2040 Conference of Plan.

[27:18] Community impact, the theme, youth empowerment, civic pride is rooted in the city's identity

[27:22] and city of champions.

[27:23] and public engagement, use of the QR code to track your engagement. So you see

[27:29] that was my approach to look at all of these. I looked at the policy and tried

[27:33] to apply the policy to the project. That was my approach. So I just wanted to

[27:41] open up. I'm not going to start every conversation like this. I just want to

[27:44] start off just to get the ball rolling. So if we could all take a moment

[27:49] since this is our actually our very first application to look at. Talk

[27:53] when you think about it, the process,

[27:55] how it lines with go for 10, go.

[27:57] Three screening samples of his work,

[28:00] did you submit it?

[28:00] He did not send any samples, but I've decided to,

[28:04] and you can tell me if you want me to do this

[28:06] as best I can during this meeting.

[28:09] He does have an Instagram,

[28:11] and this is one sample that's right towards the top of his.

[28:21] At the Jill team, one of the Jill team events

[28:25] he participated in,

[28:26] he actually did a painting or drawing during that first one?

[28:33] Yeah, that I predicted?

[28:35] Okay.

[28:36] Why were we there?

[28:37] Because people came and they talked to him.

[28:40] We think that they were artistic.

[28:48] The process is certainly good.

[28:50] I mean, it seems like if there's ones that we all feel have marry,

[28:55] we could just quickly, like, yay or nay, go down here,

[28:59] and then as a group, and then we could look at tolls,

[29:04] start putting a total amount of the yeas and go, wow, OK,

[29:09] now we've got to really be discerning.

[29:11] So maybe we could weigh it through this effort.

[29:17] Does anyone want to talk on this application?

[29:19] You want to go with the yeas and the names?

[29:20] How do you want to do this?

[29:22] I just have a comment.

[29:23] So I'm wondering if he maybe means 41 inches, which

[29:26] would be about three feet, and by 14 feet.

[29:29] Does this dimension would be very small, if this is what he means?

[29:34] That was my question.

[29:38] But nobody knows.

[29:40] And generally, if we picked a mural, we would see more samples.

[29:47] But his description is interesting, but it's a little vague.

[29:51] You know, I think he would depict youth stylized and realistic, sort of maybe in the style that

[30:01] Um, this is a question based on the policy. If anybody can recall, does anything in the policy

[30:08] recommend a procedure because we don't have a mural policy? It may come in August, so right

[30:15] now they're like to answer Anne's question, what's going to be the process? Whether we

[30:20] have a valuation, well, there's not a policy for that. There could be, so we'll have to

[30:29] make funding decisions without a policy directive. So we just need to make sure

[30:36] that the application as written covers these two things with the expectation

[30:42] when a mural policy is adopted that that policy can be carried out by the

[30:50] applicant. I thought a couple things for this specific one. I thought in most of

[30:54] these people have Instagrams and stuff. I did take time to look at some of the work or if I

[30:58] I wasn't sure what they did, I looked at their company,

[31:01] I looked at their engagement online,

[31:03] I also Googled them, and what I really like about this one

[31:07] is it reaches our youth, and that's one of our requirements

[31:10] for comprehensive fan.

[31:12] It also gives us a chance to collect some KPIs,

[31:15] and I think that's really good for us, right?

[31:17] Because a QR code may be something

[31:20] that goes directly to the city,

[31:21] but it also may be something that we wanna connect

[31:23] and goes directly to a VAC survey,

[31:26] or any information that we want to collect so we could probably steer that.

[31:30] And I thought that it was realistic just as far as the price of murals, right?

[31:35] The average murals were between $3,000 and $6,500.

[31:39] We just did a mural last month that sort of is a permanent mural, right?

[31:45] And so that's around the price just for the average one, right?

[31:48] And so I think that that's a really good price for what he's at.

[31:51] Asking them more importantly, I think that the lines were making the city look good

[31:55] and carrying out their kids, right?

[31:57] And so I think that kind of helps us out

[31:59] as far as making sure for companies

[32:02] and planning and also their partners that we've had,

[32:04] he stayed within the guidelines of that.

[32:06] So I think it's a really good thing

[32:07] and I don't think it's a good guess.

[32:09] So that's what I'm thinking.

[32:11] Mr. Chair.

[32:13] I'm concerned about, I like this one,

[32:16] I like this application, but my concern

[32:20] has to do with all of the applications

[32:22] and it's the hot phone, according to what I've found out.

[32:27] Do you want to read it?

[32:28] Go ahead.

[32:29] All right.

[32:29] So I'm not going to read the whole page,

[32:31] but there must be likely to do, let's try that again.

[32:38] Two things have to be in place for that first criteria

[32:41] that heads and beds.

[32:43] One is to directly promote tourism, which I think

[32:45] it does, most of them do.

[32:48] But the second part, it says,

[32:50] and directly promote the convention and hotel industry individuals planning or

[32:58] traveling to a different from a different city or coming for an event

[33:02] those type of things but that needs to directly tie to the hotel convention

[33:07] activity as well as the tourism and then it says here if the funded event

[33:13] or facility is not reasonably likely to directly enhance tourism and the

[33:19] The hotel, convention industry, local hotel hot tax cannot be legally used.

[33:28] And then it says they need to have a plan for

[33:34] how they're going to market to

[33:40] attract tourists and hotel guests.

[33:42] If the entity does not adequately market its events to tourists and

[33:47] hotel guests it is difficult to produce an event that will effectively promote tourism and hotel

[33:54] activity. The funded event held in a venue that will likely attract tourists and hotel guests,

[34:03] a city or delegated entity should also consider whether a funded event will be held in a venue

[34:10] that will likely attract tourists and hotel guests.

[34:15] A community center is much less likely to attract tourists,

[34:23] unlike local performing arts venues, museums, or civic centers,

[34:28] which are likely to attract tourists and hotel guests.

[34:33] So if an event is in a community,

[34:36] a picnic, a local parade, an education class, or similar type of event is not

[34:42] likely to attract tourists and hotel guests. So my fear that our weekly is the

[34:51] hotel part. If they're not booking a lot of hotel rooms, then it's not

[35:05] likely to be considered, that's what Amy was speaking to.

[35:11] Well, yeah, and I think that, as I've always understood it

[35:14] and been told a lot of times, even one night qualifies

[35:19] more than 30 arts.

[35:21] But I'm kind of with you, and I think

[35:23] it's a fantastic application of what

[35:27] bringing the arts to Dr. Bell.

[35:28] I have a hard time getting there on putting any head in death.

[35:32] I mean, basically, unless we thought they were in bringing

[35:34] an artist who was gonna stay in one of the hotels for a night or two while they were painting

[35:39] it, then we'd check that box. We've got it. Because I don't really have to do a block.

[35:44] That's always one of the questions, and that's one of the things that's been in there for years.

[35:48] They asked if you're going to, and I was like, no, I'm not going to do a block, but I had to move

[35:52] ahead and get it. And so if they were, if they could just show, and I think the other thing that, and I don't know how this affects

[35:59] I know in previous years when it was City Council, sometimes they would say, I mean, we love this

[36:06] ask, we have more information, perhaps it could be written, so the next grant cycle, if it's not

[36:12] proven not, I'm not, I'm not recommending that or not, but I'm saying I don't know if we allow for

[36:17] that, but I think it's a fantastic proposal. I think we need more information about how it might

[36:23] and packed hotel stays in order to really make sure that all of us I agree but I

[36:30] was looking to like the location where this is that is you know mainstream

[36:34] that's where all of our events happen it's gonna be near our cultural district

[36:38] it's near like our restaurants a local restaurant and stuff so things will be

[36:42] happening people will take pictures people think oh that's cool let me stop

[36:46] by and bring other people but also that QR code could lead to like our

[36:51] city of Dunkinville website and things to do and so they automatically get the

[36:55] list of what they can do while they're while they're here taking pictures and

[36:59] you know maybe I don't know if that counts but I would I would think that

[37:02] would kind of count toward late hot funds maybe you know.

[37:07] I think it would be

[37:08] difficult to have anything that is public art be just very directly

[37:14] cute to that but he's done a good job in explaining why. What? He uses the word

[37:20] tourism a lot and has a comparison in Miami. So, I think for what it is, I think that's just

[37:28] what it's probably going to be. It's worth to be at a school, I think it's really important to

[37:31] realize that, you know, you've got to think about the tournaments, what volleyball is,

[37:36] football or anything like that. You have people that are going to come in for that,

[37:40] just being a coach and also, you know, mom, you know, you go to all these other cities

[37:46] for these tournaments and stuff like that,

[37:48] whether it be on the weekend, you know,

[37:50] lots of you do stay because you don't feel

[37:53] like driving back and forth, don't worry.

[37:54] So I think that, just in my humble opinion,

[37:58] I think this is a great testament to what we're looking for.

[38:02] I think year olds is something that

[38:04] we've talked about for three years.

[38:06] We still haven't got the year up on the,

[38:08] what is that thing called?

[38:10] The real house.

[38:11] The real house.

[38:12] The real house.

[38:12] And it's so huge, yeah, right?

[38:14] But so I think that this is the thing about it is what we want to do is employ people to do the things that we haven't been able to do, right?

[38:21] And we want to make certain that we are turning around and turning up the heat on being able to say is this, guess what?

[38:28] We can't do it. The teamwork makes the dream work.

[38:30] And being able to say is this, guess what?

[38:32] We're allowing these people in our community to help us not only look good,

[38:37] but to foster a positive environment and speak positively about the city of Dunkinville.

[38:41] So, to me, I think that that's the key and that was the last one for me.

[38:48] I'd like to take a motion and recommend that the City Council fund the Beacon of Light project in the amount of $3,000.

[38:56] Is there any questions or discussion on this?

[39:00] Okay, go ahead.

[39:02] I'm all for it.

[39:03] if we can figure out how to get past that and look out.

[39:13] First, and then ultimately says this coal fighter didn't kind of thought,

[39:18] first I thought it was going to be economic development, but then they removed that to us.

[39:21] Right.

[39:22] So isn't it our job?

[39:24] And then do we have to have a lawyer to really come up with the final conclusion here?

[39:30] I'm not sure.

[39:32] So after we make recommendations, we've got the staff to make sure the recommendations are.

[39:37] There's no red flags before it goes to city council.

[39:39] The arts fund policy is that you're making recommendations to the city council whether you reject or approve

[39:45] whether you upvote or downvote, recommend or not, recommend.

[39:49] It's going to city council.

[39:50] They're the ones who are going to make the decision.

[39:52] They're the ones who are ultimately going to write.

[39:54] Jack?

[39:56] So someone on council will be the one to decide if it actually fits the hot fund

[40:02] criteria.

[40:02] It will take it through further before it goes to City Council as it goes.

[40:08] City Council makes the last approval, correct?

[40:09] I'm sorry?

[40:09] City Council makes the last approval.

[40:11] City Council makes the last approval on both of them.

[40:14] As I was saying, City Council, even though we're recommending everything, it goes to City Council

[40:19] and they make the final decision on all of these, correct?

[40:21] Yes.

[40:21] Per the policy, if you recommend or don't recommend, both are going to go.

[40:27] So, someone has to vet them before City Council gets to City Council.

[40:32] Someone's going to be...

[40:33] The city attorney is going to look at everything that's on the agenda.

[40:38] City management, the city attorney looks at everything that goes on the agenda

[40:41] before it goes to the City Council.

[40:44] I'm sorry.

[40:45] A question about our process.

[40:47] If we vote yesterday, after our consultation about all of them,

[40:52] Might we consider adjusting the totals based on what we've...

[40:58] You can make the most of it.

[41:01] Well, you may turn around and recommend something and say,

[41:03] hey, I approved them instead of $10,000.

[41:06] I think that we should approve them for $70,000.

[41:08] I understand that.

[41:09] But as we add up all this and we come to the end of it,

[41:13] is it possible to go back and make some adjustments?

[41:17] Or is it, once we vote on it, it's set.

[41:20] The amount is set.

[41:21] Well, I think by the time we get into this process, we're going to know exactly how much

[41:25] we're going to recommend.

[41:27] And so how do you guys want to do that?

[41:29] Do you want to?

[41:30] I mean, there's still a motion in the second on the table.

[41:33] Tim had mentioned creating yeas and nay stacks before we vote on it.

[41:38] I think we just, and this is just my humble opinion, I think as we're going through here,

[41:43] like some of these are going to be a little bit easier than others, right?

[41:47] Because they're kind of within the things that we've been talking about for the

[41:49] last few years.

[41:50] It's not like we're not prepared for this step.

[41:53] We have, we've taken three years,

[41:54] it's been almost three years, right?

[41:56] And so I think that for this process to make it easier,

[42:00] we can just go through them.

[42:01] And then if we recommend, if we didn't say,

[42:03] hey, I know they're asking for 2,000,

[42:05] but we are gonna, let's go for 65, right?

[42:09] Let's just do it on each application

[42:10] because I think that this isn't

[42:12] have to be a long-drawn process.

[42:13] I think that everyone's probably taking a look.

[42:15] And I think that we're going through them.

[42:17] Alex, the notes are awesome.

[42:18] So, you know, you'd be doing the most,

[42:20] so you're going to do absolutely, right?

[42:22] And so, but I think that this is like important, right?

[42:26] To, for us, to be able to see the visibility

[42:29] of our folks around the city.

[42:31] Because when Alex told us, I mean, for me,

[42:34] when Alex told us the map that we were working with

[42:37] to give them, I did just that for myself,

[42:41] made some adjustments to some of the grant request proposals.

[42:47] So for me, if I make a motion, I make change the amount, and then you all can vote it over there.

[42:55] Okay.

[42:56] And remember, we make motions in the positive.

[43:00] Art, do you want to, what's your, do you want to talk more about this?

[43:05] Well, I still think there needs to be the caveat of, he has put 41 inches by 14 inches,

[43:12] and we need to make sure legally that somebody checks the form because that's not a part of the policy for a size.

[43:19] No, but a policy in size.

[43:22] But we wouldn't do it with you.

[43:25] Well, I mean, I think it's safe to assume that 41 inches is not, it's safe to assume that.

[43:31] I just say little, legally.

[43:32] Yeah, but I think the main thing, I don't, this is just me, but I think that there is not a policy in size anyway.

[43:39] I would think that no one's making a 41-inch sentence outside of the wall in school, but I definitely get that, but I think that once, like, we approve this and it goes to City Council, right?

[43:52] The City Council would require certain things, correct?

[43:56] So say let's say this gets approved, Dallas. How does that work? The City Council would say, okay, we're going to say, okay, this gets approved.

[44:03] And then what is the next step of the process?

[44:05] So this is what I proposed to city management today is that for the August 5th meeting, I will bring to them the

[44:18] during the work of briefing session, the resolution so that they can have that in mind for the next August meeting.

[44:26] Then, based on your recommendations for or against, I am going to invite all 15 to come

[44:33] and to the briefings of presentations portion of the open part of the meeting, the regular

[44:39] meeting.

[44:39] I give them a two minutes to make a slideshow presentation and all of that.

[44:44] That will give an opportunity for any of your concerns.

[44:48] I mean, you can, I would think, add to your motion, I recommend, but you can always put

[44:56] but in a, but we want this or we want.

[45:00] This address before it goes to council, or you can put in your thing that you want taken care of,

[45:06] but that'll give me a chance to say, when I reach out to it, to say, okay, you're going to the next

[45:10] step. I'm inviting you to do your two-minute elevator pitch.

[45:16] The arts commission was concerned about

[45:19] the measurements that you put on your thing, so that needs to be addressed before it goes to

[45:24] city council because that will be in the packet that city council will read. What do you all

[45:27] about that. Because my thought is the owner of the building who he is working with is going to want to

[45:36] do that.

[45:43] I know from my past experience if we could drink in that QR code, if we know that it's

[45:51] If we move the link to the city, have things to do,

[45:55] places to stay, then that checks that hotel's box.

[46:00] If the theater has a page, plan a trip and it's a link.

[46:04] You click on it and it opens every hotel

[46:06] in a different window, every place to stay

[46:09] with the way that you make the reservation.

[46:12] And I haven't told, we've done our best,

[46:14] we've done our diligence to get people to like the team.

[46:18] So we can't guarantee, but you can't guarantee.

[46:20] But your promoters are trying to promote the tourism.

[46:23] If that QR code, which I think is a cool thing,

[46:26] if that QR code, if that could be a stipulation,

[46:30] as we're asking for the right dimensions,

[46:32] we just need, we need, it must promote the hotel industry.

[46:36] It must link to something, whether it's the cities

[46:38] or they can link to the theaters,

[46:40] they can link to something that says,

[46:41] here's where to stay and not be there.

[46:43] Do you want that included in the motion?

[46:46] I don't know how to do that, that's what he said.

[46:47] He said we could add it to the motion and it would be okay, but I didn't think that that would cover everything then.

[46:54] So, there is a motion.

[46:59] I have no idea what she's talking about.

[47:02] Do you know what she's talking about?

[47:06] Would you like to do what she's suggesting?

[47:08] I always do what she suggests.

[47:12] My motion and if I can accept it since I'm the maker of the motion.

[47:17] Yes, so I'll accept your amendment about adding the co-tempted QR code.

[47:22] And the stipulation size.

[47:26] So do you want it?

[47:30] Can I ask that to be restated all the way through?

[47:34] You can ask.

[47:37] I'll make a motion that recommended to the city council that we fund the beacon of light arts projects in the amount of $3,000 with the caveat that the QR code and Q include hotel, links to hotels, and that we confirm the size of the mural.

[48:05] correct. Thank you. Does the second still stand?

[48:14] Is there any more discussion on that? If there's

[48:20] no more discussion we'll take a vote. All in favor of the motion? Okay, please hold.

[48:31] I know, we just made a

[48:45] Okay,

[48:55] the next submission is brown girls to ballet photo project. It is a single project

[49:01] support grants.

[49:04] The Project Summary, the Brunt Girls Do Battle A Photo Project, is a visual

[49:08] storytelling series by photographer Tequilla Wallace McMillan that highlights the strength,

[49:14] grace, and identity of young dancers of color. Through portraits taken in Duncanville and surrounding

[49:20] neighborhoods, the project captures dancers in both traditional and non-traditional spaces,

[49:24] centering them in a narrative where they are celebrated, visible, and empowered.

[49:28] The resulting images will be exhibited publicly to promote community pride, cultural reflection and expanded representation in the arts.

[49:38] Here is the budget that was submitted with it.

[49:44] And this breaks down the line items.

[49:47] Here is a photo from her work.

[49:51] And then if I've got a copy, it's not a great print,

[49:56] but this is a sample of her work that can be passed around.

[49:59] So the total projected budget is 8,000,

[50:03] and the requested amount is 3,000.

[50:06] And again, this is a single project support grant

[50:11] with per your policy discussions

[50:15] that is funding limit up to $3,000

[50:18] for a first time applicant.

[50:19] and everybody's the first time out.

[50:23] So I have a question.

[50:25] Does it, I think that it seeks the promotion of the arts.

[50:31] I think it's over for study funding.

[50:33] Does it qualify under heads and necks?

[50:37] That's a question that I've run online.

[50:38] What do you think?

[50:40] I gave it, when I was sort of braiding on tourism,

[50:45] I gave mine, that was my,

[50:49] I'm not just a little bit down,

[50:53] but then I thought if she's having an exhibit here

[50:57] in Duckville, wherever the venue,

[51:01] and she did take the 115th,

[51:07] where is that thing in?

[51:08] In this dance group,

[51:10] this is the project for the 115th Ballet Girls,

[51:13] but anyways, they come from across

[51:15] was the various cities and so forth.

[51:21] And if they're doing an exhibit, I

[51:24] can see maybe possibly people coming in and seeing

[51:31] their relative or friends, child, in a photo exhibit.

[51:38] And this could, I could see this possibly in the

[51:44] traveling

[51:44] and he said it, and from what it done, he done it.

[51:49] Is this the one that was, this person is doing two things?

[51:54] It might not say this is the annual art program

[51:58] from October 4th to December,

[52:00] because our policy says it can only act for one,

[52:04] says that applicants may apply for one grant

[52:07] for purpose for a year,

[52:12] two for the month and two.

[52:16] Well, isn't it?

[52:36] The difference is one is a single grant the other one is annual so what he's

[52:41] saying what's the rule on that because it's one applicant I thought was one

[52:48] So that above all of the categories, before you even get to the categories, the text, there is applicants may only apply for one grant per fiscal year.

[53:01] So the question is, she's applied for two grants, right?

[53:08] So the question is, we need to look at both of the grants at the same time and decide if we want to fund one or the other.

[53:15] because it cannot even be one of the other.

[53:17] Would you like me to skip forward to the other one real quick?

[53:20] Yes, so I think we skip to the other one.

[53:21] Can I speak to this one?

[53:23] Of course you can.

[53:27] Yeah, I...

[53:28] what this grant isn't for

[53:29] is for a specific...

[53:32] is that

[53:34] the grant is to pay the photographer

[53:36] or the way it's

[53:38] really got sound markets

[53:39] to give her funding so she can

[53:41] photograph these things.

[53:42] But it doesn't say, even though she has some linems here,

[53:47] it's not saying, do this for Congress before an exhibit in July.

[53:52] That's going to be, and so I can't see funding someone to beef up their portfolio or

[54:01] their stock exchange portfolio, but I can see if there's a specific exhibit involved.

[54:08] That's an event that could bring people into town.

[54:12] this is going to be displayed all around the city. That's installation.

[54:18] It's on incredible places.

[54:19] Yeah, it's on incredible places and public spaces.

[54:23] I just don't, I guess there was no, I guess maybe they're all over the day.

[54:30] Okay.

[54:33] And that's a little bit, listen, this is our first fun. This is their first fun.

[54:37] And so, I think what's going to happen after we do this is that we'll be able to say, okay,

[54:43] we need to get the lines in place so that they are more thorough next time.

[54:47] Write it down.

[54:49] But I think for the most part.

[54:52] Hey, Alex, did you go over the both, did you go over both applications for the workers?

[54:58] Not yet.

[54:59] The second one is to offer a weekly ballet classes for local youth age 4 to 12.

[55:05] So they don't go into empowerment through ballet the application is for an

[55:14] annual arts program grant which is for nonprofits from girls to ballet is

[55:20] expanding its empowerment through ballet community class program to Duncanville

[55:25] Texas to serve at-risk youth ages 4 to 12 with free ballet training this initiative

[55:30] uses dance as a tool to foster physical fitness emotional

[55:33] resilience and positive mentorship in underserved communities.

[55:38] Through accessible, high quality instruction and community support, the program helps young

[55:43] participants build confidence, discipline, and a sense of belonging.

[55:47] There is the list, the itemized list, total projected budget amount is $10,200,

[55:57] and then

[55:58] the total project budget, $10,200, and the requested amount is $5,000.

[56:03] offers. I could not see how this qualms by does not have to be here. Why not? To me it's a great

[56:16] thing for a non-profit to be doing. The organization is professional on it. They've got a good track

[56:24] record, a good target degree, but it's very limited as far as engagement of anybody else

[56:30] and doesn't really talk about how much you have something here, but it doesn't talk about tourism at all.

[56:41] I would like to just add for consideration, they did submit that they are recognized as a 501c3, they are recognized as a nonprofit.

[56:49] Yeah, that's why for that it's good.

[56:52] So this is something that we're all going to think about. We can really love a program. It seems like it's the best in the whole world.

[56:59] But if it's not eligible, it's not eligible.

[57:03] That's not an opinion on the eligibility of this.

[57:05] I'm just saying you have a program which are concerned, is it?

[57:10] So, let's look at these two grants.

[57:13] Which of these two do you think is more eligible or more desired

[57:16] than the other?

[57:18] Does that revolve?

[57:20] Can I talk about things I like about the both of them?

[57:24] And things that are kind of tricky, right?

[57:26] I think that what I did, like everyone I did,

[57:30] first of all, they have a huge presence

[57:32] and it's further, of course, than that can go.

[57:35] And so I think that that allows them to bring in more people.

[57:38] It's just like Ron said even earlier

[57:40] with the art installation around town.

[57:42] I think that, you know, if I know my niece

[57:45] has got a L.A. picture up and down,

[57:47] y'all have some done, right?

[57:49] So I do think it drives tourism.

[57:51] I think far as the youth once again,

[57:55] And I always remember that we're supposed to have

[57:58] testing people, right?

[58:00] And I think that's always good.

[58:01] I think that it's also good that we're talking about it.

[58:05] Insighting the community to also for the other one

[58:08] is to provide some kind of programming

[58:10] from a 501c3 that promotes dance, right?

[58:14] And to introduce our Indian people to dance

[58:16] at an early age, especially those people

[58:18] that are underserved or that may just

[58:22] not have none about another programming label.

[58:23] So I do like that.

[58:25] I do think that for the programming,

[58:29] the valid programming for ages four to 12,

[58:33] I know that, I know the answer to that.

[58:36] So I think it's a really good initiative.

[58:39] I'm not certain it fits directly into the guidelines

[58:42] of what we're trying to do,

[58:44] but I do think that a majority of it does.

[58:48] So we know at this point

[58:49] that we have two different applications,

[58:52] one from the company and one from the owner.

[58:56] There's a difference, right?

[58:57] So the question becomes is,

[59:00] which one do we feel is more parallel

[59:04] to the restrictions and the requirements?

[59:09] I think that the one is really,

[59:13] well it's a wonderful endeavor.

[59:14] I don't know that I think it fits

[59:15] within the arts commission guidelines

[59:17] that the one that we're finding the dance

[59:19] to the question to find the dance itself,

[59:22] I think it's wonderful.

[59:22] I had some concerns about the photography one,

[59:29] only because I want something more specific.

[59:31] The resulting images will be set in an accessible community

[59:34] of locations, such as libraries, city buildings,

[59:37] and public events.

[59:37] I would have liked something to say more specifically.

[59:41] We have agreements with these, you know, there's nothing.

[59:45] We think we're going to do this,

[59:47] but we don't know that they're going to get permission

[59:49] to put it in places.

[59:50] I would have liked something more specific, at least.

[59:52] Like, we know what we're all going to be.

[59:54] We know that.

[59:55] I would like to know that we have an agreement

[59:58] or a bench on previous.

[1:00:18] I think that we definitely, as we're going through this to take those notes, you'll be able to say, like Ron said, so the next time, you know, I think these are all great things.

[1:00:28] And I would love to know, what are the public spaces?

[1:00:31] However, we don't know if they haven't already

[1:00:33] had those relationships with them.

[1:00:35] I know that if you look on their website as well

[1:00:39] as their social media, you'll see that they have

[1:00:43] their everywhere.

[1:00:44] So I think that, once again, we've just got to remember

[1:00:46] there hasn't been any requirements that require them

[1:00:48] to tell us that.

[1:00:50] So we can't really utilize that in the new group.

[1:00:52] Yeah, but we do have our policy,

[1:00:54] which says it has to come up to tourism.

[1:00:55] And I don't know, for me personally, that doesn't specifically tell me

[1:01:00] that there's something that's untrue in this business.

[1:01:02] I mean, that's my interpretation of what they've stated.

[1:01:05] They've mentioned their policies.

[1:01:07] Angela, Matt?

[1:01:11] Actually, there are three grants from these people.

[1:01:18] Because it's Brown Girls through ballet, Empowerment

[1:01:21] through ballet, and the Journey Dance Center.

[1:01:24] They're all sort of interconnected.

[1:01:26] that you can read of their journey for them journey and this is part of their

[1:01:35] they're all sort of interconnected the two owners and things like that so they

[1:01:40] asked for three different fun but they do have a when I look at it they do have

[1:01:51] They have a good impact.

[1:01:55] What they're trying to do is bring the recital part,

[1:01:58] maybe here to Duckville, which I think is great,

[1:02:00] because I always go to Dallas.

[1:02:02] And they said they're looking at a location.

[1:02:04] My concern was, when I looked at it,

[1:02:07] is did they consider the school I torn,

[1:02:12] which is very nice and right down the street?

[1:02:15] I don't know if they ever did or not.

[1:02:16] That's a question you can ask.

[1:02:18] But they've always done it.

[1:02:19] But if they, for what they're doing in ballet is wonderful,

[1:02:24] I'd love to see ballet here.

[1:02:26] It would put people in hotels

[1:02:30] and they would come to see recitals and things like that.

[1:02:33] I know we have gone out of town

[1:02:37] just to see panel recitals of youth

[1:02:41] and things that, you know, that we're people

[1:02:45] that we know, and stayed at a hotel for that.

[1:02:48] So it does that.

[1:02:51] My thing is, I sort of was looking at all three of them

[1:02:57] somewhat together and then looked at reducing maybe

[1:03:02] the amount of them and just give them a request

[1:03:06] under one of the grants.

[1:03:08] That's interesting.

[1:03:09] What do y'all think about that?

[1:03:11] I'm sorry, Matt, but thanks for the report.

[1:03:14] Because they're interrelated or related,

[1:03:18] Out of the three, I think this one that's the Journey Dance Center is more in line with

[1:03:24] the Hot Fund's two-step and a recital of that size of magnitude sounds like it would be a

[1:03:32] great draw.

[1:03:34] If it was here.

[1:03:35] Yeah, more.

[1:03:36] Yeah, because it's down to the theater center.

[1:03:38] Yeah, because right now they've been doing it for 14 years.

[1:03:42] And I understand because it has to be done here.

[1:03:45] Yeah, it has to be done here.

[1:03:46] right. So and I think that would be a big draw. And if we if we make that caveat that is in

[1:03:53] Dumpenville, then I wouldn't say fund multiple grants because we're not supposed to, but

[1:04:01] of the three, I think this one fits hot funds and our policy more in line. And so since

[1:04:10] it's a beginning. So is that going to happen in Duckville? She says that they

[1:04:17] were looking for a Duckville location. Yeah, with our location being in

[1:04:20] Duckville, a lot of our students are from Duckville. Because it's only eligible

[1:04:25] if it's in Duckville. Right, so I think when we make a motion, if we want to do

[1:04:31] a caveat saying we would be willing to

[1:04:42] I'd like to ask something, just so it's on the record, is if you can go ahead and illustrate

[1:04:47] the connection to Q3.

[1:04:49] Okay.

[1:04:51] If you look at Brown Girls Do Ink, and you go and you look at the primary listed individual

[1:05:00] organizations are planning for XP in the project, you'll see Wallace McMillan and Metzger and Strong.

[1:05:09] Those are Metzger's journey dance center and Strong ground girls do the ink.

[1:05:17] So you see that in that form and you also see the same applicant's name on the grant.

[1:05:26] You know, she has a different address for the 3,000 one that we were looking at, for the pictures, the photos.

[1:05:33] And then when you look at her other one under Journey Dance,

[1:05:37] because the basic title at the end is,

[1:05:40] One of the individuals planning an executed project is Myanna Metzger.

[1:05:45] And she's on, she did the application for Journey Dance.

[1:05:50] So they're all, all three are interrelated.

[1:05:54] And so I looked at that my thought was okay because we were having a limited amount of funding and so forth.

[1:06:07] Maybe I

[1:06:11] was going to recommend that we just give them one, maybe fund one and maybe not fund the whole thing.

[1:06:21] The journey dance center, I thought that that was where they

[1:06:26] The journey dance center is doing the recital.

[1:06:29] Right, so I'm saying they're the recital.

[1:06:32] That's the recital portion.

[1:06:34] The single project, one to three thousand, one was for the photos

[1:06:41] and then the other one, the other grant was for the practicing.

[1:06:46] It's cool.

[1:06:47] So if you look at this, on the resolution valet,

[1:06:51] on the location on the second page,

[1:06:53] it says the Journey to Dance Center.

[1:06:55] So then it puts it together.

[1:06:56] What does it mean they own the same thing?

[1:06:58] No, they're all similar things.

[1:07:00] But on the same reason.

[1:07:01] It's just by partnering with the Journey to Dance Center.

[1:07:03] What I'm saying is it doesn't say that.

[1:07:05] Like, we don't know that Tequilla Wallace and Millen

[1:07:09] owns the Journey to Dance Center.

[1:07:11] That can be just like an example

[1:07:12] there's programming at the library.

[1:07:14] you see them saying this is like so I don't want to assume that just because

[1:07:19] they're practicing like if there might be someone who owns the dance and that's

[1:07:24] what they happen to be and they also apply so I don't want to assume because

[1:07:29] there are two different names or two different addresses so I didn't think

[1:07:36] Yeah, but the photographer is the one who's applying for the...

[1:07:41] The photographer says she will collaborate with the Journey Dancers.

[1:07:45] Right.

[1:07:45] So that's why it's in her name.

[1:07:46] So that's what I'm saying.

[1:07:48] And it's just because they...

[1:07:49] Like if I turn...

[1:07:51] Mac has a business and I have a business and you have a business.

[1:07:53] And I said, oh my God, our commission has this thing.

[1:07:56] And we already worked together because I'm the...

[1:07:58] You know, I'm the dancer.

[1:07:59] I'm the best dancer in the world.

[1:08:01] And I'm practicing at his facility.

[1:08:02] and she's the one selling notepad right and she hasn't looked in the world right

[1:08:07] that so what I'm just saying is is just because we're off that facility does not

[1:08:12] mean that we have partnership in those businesses so I think that we can't

[1:08:16] assume I didn't assume that that I saw the similarities that I didn't assume

[1:08:20] that my out of Mexico is the same person that's doing things are they so

[1:08:27] So, Brown Girls Do Magic, do ballet.

[1:08:30] What?

[1:08:33] Next season.

[1:08:34] Last, last time was long.

[1:08:39] BrownGirlsDoBallet.com, listed on the team, T'Keeo Wallace McMillan is the founder and

[1:08:46] executive director, Miata Metzger is not listed on that website, going over to TheJourneyDanceCenter.com,

[1:08:55] going to the about the founder and odor is not a plan again at the that is her

[1:09:02] full name as per the email comment that's in her name and nobody from

[1:09:12] from girls ballet is mentioned on this website so okay so and I was wrong so we

[1:09:19] I only have two from the young lady with Mellon,

[1:09:22] and that's her.

[1:09:24] She just happens to be utilizing her facility.

[1:09:27] That's what it looks like.

[1:09:28] Because when I read each one, it seemed like, okay,

[1:09:32] we've got the photo shoot, we've got the training,

[1:09:36] and then once we've finished the dance training,

[1:09:39] then we're going to do the side-off.

[1:09:41] That's the way it looks.

[1:09:42] I look like, to me, that they've all just applied.

[1:09:44] Right?

[1:09:45] But I do think that's Key of Wallace with Mellon

[1:09:48] and Brown girls do ballet because it's Brown's project. I don't know because he

[1:09:57] seems like she's photographer.

[1:10:03] Right so but when we go over to a journey dance that

[1:10:08] the for their cycles I don't think that they're related now they may practice

[1:10:13] there but I don't remember online when I looked that they were the same company at

[1:10:19] all so I'm not to say they're the same company or different companies are

[1:10:23] different organizations yeah they seem like they were related to me there was a

[1:10:30] relationship but that's fine yeah so the journey of the incident though that's

[1:10:34] the actual dance and requesting grant right that's not the same thing as the

[1:10:39] photographer because we know this is a photographer project okay and then we have

[1:10:44] a ballet project so these are three different things right right so they're

[1:10:48] not the same people I think that now with the brown we need to figure out

[1:10:56] these two people these two applications yes yes yeah because she is listed on

[1:11:04] SomeSweetPhoto.com as the owner, and she is also on...

[1:11:09] Yes, because I thought she was both, right.

[1:11:11] But this one, I didn't feel like this was the same thing.

[1:11:14] I think this is just the facility.

[1:11:15] And she probably told her, you need to find this or don't this or whatever.

[1:11:18] But I didn't see it.

[1:11:19] I don't remember looking at them.

[1:11:21] I think she's probably trying to find it.

[1:11:24] So Wallace McMillan and Bromgrove DuVallet are the same rooms.

[1:11:28] And the Journey Dance Center is the facility.

[1:11:31] Yes.

[1:11:32] Is that where we're going?

[1:11:32] Yes. Really good grants administrators here all the time.

[1:11:37] Alright, so let's talk about it. What do you want to do with these?

[1:11:44] Well, I feel a way to go to the nonprofit.

[1:11:47] I mean, that's one of the things that I'm trying to develop a cultural center or a cultural district is, you know, to encourage nonprofits.

[1:11:54] It feels like photography is

[1:12:05] more like marketing

[1:12:07] and then pop up with some kind of show to say.

[1:12:13] It really feels like they're on site because all this cool stuff, take a lot of photos and maybe display it.

[1:12:20] Put the photos up because it's not contest.

[1:12:23] It's just you're displaying 50s marketing.

[1:12:26] You're marketing your studio.

[1:12:27] You're making it very marketing.

[1:12:28] So if your field is a little more key to that, especially if they're related to the non-profit in that sense, it's not bad.

[1:12:40] So as far as the recital, I think that if we can guarantee it's something that I'm going for, because that would bring people into non-profit based on...

[1:12:55] side of one to the side. So which one's a nonprofit? The BioPropery and the

[1:13:03] Ballet programming, the programming grant. I like that one. Let me tell you why.

[1:13:09] I think that there's a couple things. First of all, I think it's going to

[1:13:13] bring in people from around the best Southwest because when you look at

[1:13:17] programming, an example, let's say golf. When my center started playing golf, there was

[1:13:22] no golf around here. Like there was no programming, there was no practice, there

[1:13:25] there was no nothing, right?

[1:13:27] And so I think that what happened is

[1:13:30] is we had to go to cities nearby, right?

[1:13:32] And so I think that first of all,

[1:13:35] we have a 501 CT category.

[1:13:37] And I think it really adequately

[1:13:41] it empowers the artists like in a different form.

[1:13:45] And I think it's the ballets for anyone, right?

[1:13:48] So I do agree with Tim there that

[1:13:49] if I had to make a decision as far as installation

[1:13:52] versus programming,

[1:13:54] I mean I think the programming can attract people from other cities and it

[1:13:58] may even be something that people will travel for and be able to spend money in

[1:14:02] our cities whether here waiting on their kids during class and stuff like that or

[1:14:07] if there was a recital or something they would be something they would be able to say

[1:14:10] oh we're going to spend the night we're going to make the day of it or we're going to have to do something.

[1:14:13] I agree because I think like even other like sports like people travel all the way

[1:14:19] McKinney or Frisco to go and do soccer things. And for me, I mean, from my knowledge, it's

[1:14:25] pretty unique, especially, you know, Brown Roads to the Ballet, like it, it, I guess like

[1:14:31] brings out other cultures and other people to be interested. And when you have kids,

[1:14:35] you have families, you have families, they want to do things and they want to be convenient.

[1:14:40] So if they're already here in Duncanville, I feel like there's more likely that they'll

[1:14:45] stay or they'll come around and see what we have to offer. The photo thing I kind of tend to agree

[1:14:50] with Tim. Like I think it's more of a marketing thing. I think it's so cool though. Those pictures

[1:14:55] look amazing. But I just think it needs to be reworked on how

[1:15:00] It could bring towards a, maybe if it was a game, like people had to come do some sort of scavenger hunt or something, or I don't know, like, maybe there's a QR code with it, or it was representing what that facility was and everything that they had to do there, why you should come and say, I don't know.

[1:15:16] But I think that needs to be reworked, but the, if I had to vote, I'll vote for the ground girls to ballet as well.

[1:15:22] And I think what we ask, the tendency would be is that we are provided as a part of that marketing.

[1:15:30] I think BAC should be a partner. I'm presumed as a partner.

[1:15:34] And that makes this a good thing. We're providing balance for the youth.

[1:15:41] Fred, would you call it friendly?

[1:15:43] We haven't. We haven't. We haven't.

[1:15:45] We haven't. We haven't.

[1:15:47] Sorry, Matt, you guys here.

[1:15:52] The thing that I keep it in my head against is the hotel name.

[1:15:57] And while the photographs are good, if there was an event where there was a, you know,

[1:16:05] a easel's up for a couple of days or something where it's an event, I could see that.

[1:16:14] But also the ballet, while it fits our annual arts program grant, it doesn't fit because the hot thing here says educational class or similar type of event is not likely to attract tourists and hotel guests.

[1:16:37] Yes, you might have weekly soccer games, but you're not going to stay the night at the soccer practice or the soccer game necessarily, so I think that might be harder.

[1:16:51] Maybe I'm just stuck in my head because somebody else is going to decide if it's heads of beds.

[1:16:55] Well, it's worth mentioning that there have been discussions of city council and city council

[1:17:00] breakings in this about how much weight is put into the heads and heads part.

[1:17:07] But we don't have policy. We have a policy on this, but we don't have a right.

[1:17:12] Yeah, and I agree with Matt to an extent, but I also think that I think we don't ever bring anything diverse to the community to say, hey, listen,

[1:17:22] And guess what, they have ballet or whatever.

[1:17:25] And I think we want things that are going to attract people

[1:17:28] to come to our city, even if it's first vacation,

[1:17:30] even if we recommend, hey, with this programming,

[1:17:35] and that you're doing is when you're doing your final project,

[1:17:39] when you're doing what do they call it?

[1:17:42] Showtime, you know, whatever they're doing on that final,

[1:17:47] what's the ballet class, is everything you have to do.

[1:17:49] Yeah, I've never thought about it.

[1:17:49] Yeah.

[1:17:50] We would turn around and say, you know, we can suggest them, hey, you know, you should

[1:17:55] provide, get with the hotels and like, provide a stay overnight stay package.

[1:17:59] You know what I mean?

[1:18:00] So, like, just even with some events and stuff, you do a lot of them.

[1:18:03] They might be only one day events, but they're two-day because they're not going to be

[1:18:07] agreed on that Friday night or what have you.

[1:18:09] So, I kind of think that it definitely can attract tours because you have kids.

[1:18:14] People can come to see the babies in May.

[1:18:16] Right.

[1:18:16] And if you look at her budget, she does have a showcase.

[1:18:20] She had put it in her budget to have a showcase.

[1:18:23] So I think that maybe we're going to do it

[1:18:25] and culminate to the end.

[1:18:26] Yeah, that's probably this journey.

[1:18:31] Maybe this ends in December, so maybe not.

[1:18:34] No, this is the recital.

[1:18:36] Yeah, the recital is not till May.

[1:18:39] This particular one ends in December 20th.

[1:18:42] This is 4 to 12.

[1:18:43] That's 2 to 18.

[1:18:45] So, yeah, on this one, it was in December, so she may have a Christmas.

[1:18:49] She's suddenly, I don't know, but she is not sure.

[1:18:51] But I do think that they should doubt for no good.

[1:18:55] So, I'm not going to be emotional.

[1:18:57] But he's going to.

[1:18:58] I'm sorry.

[1:18:59] I'm sorry, Tim.

[1:18:59] I'm sorry.

[1:19:00] It's okay.

[1:19:01] So the, you know, when I saw the budget, I think for the recital, I think what

[1:19:06] kind of stepped it out is like.

[1:19:08] We're not on the recital.

[1:19:09] We're not on the recital.

[1:19:11] We're not on the recital.

[1:19:14] I don't know why this is so confusing.

[1:19:18] Sorry, Tim.

[1:19:19] When we get to your side, we're going to let you cook.

[1:19:22] When we get to your side, we're going to let you talk.

[1:19:26] I do have a showcase.

[1:19:29] But my concern and what it's going to be,

[1:19:31] and what it's going to attract,

[1:19:34] it says culminating showcase in parentheses, low cost,

[1:19:37] and studio event.

[1:19:38] So, I'm not sure that that makes it such a broad thing that would be a good thing to do that.

[1:19:46] I don't want it to.

[1:19:50] I'm the budget back there on the last page.

[1:19:53] Low cost in the studio event.

[1:19:55] What do you mean?

[1:19:59] The next to the last line on the budget.

[1:20:01] It says culminating the showcase.

[1:20:02] We're learning about the showcase.

[1:20:03] Is it a low cost in the studio event?

[1:20:05] Well, it's an in-studio event, so it's not necessarily a track match for us.

[1:20:12] Why would you think that?

[1:20:14] Well, the studios aren't big enough to then add them inside out.

[1:20:17] How big is the studio? Do you have any details? Do you have those details?

[1:20:21] No, I don't have those details.

[1:20:22] No, I'm just asking you.

[1:20:25] No, I'm doing it the way that she carry on.

[1:20:27] The studio is kind of like the journey dance center.

[1:20:31] Okay, so I think that once again we don't have requirements, so I don't feel like we should be utilizing that for...

[1:20:38] And things may change by the time.

[1:20:40] Right, I mean, like, yeah.

[1:20:42] We may have other locations that she may find.

[1:20:44] We may have other locations she may get real big, but I think the main thing is, is that one of our requirements for our arts grant application is not.

[1:20:52] So I don't think we should utilize that information.

[1:21:05] She says in the past, our show has been held at the Dallas Children's Theater.

[1:21:10] Are you looking at the, sorry, the journey dance?

[1:21:15] Yeah.

[1:21:15] Are you at the recital?

[1:21:17] You and Tim want to be at the recital so bad.

[1:21:20] We don't get that right next to you.

[1:21:24] Okay.

[1:21:26] Okay, so I'll do it two ways.

[1:21:29] Okay, I'll do the first one.

[1:21:32] If we look at the one that's an individual artist

[1:21:36] that we started off with,

[1:21:37] it's a high and long one.

[1:21:40] The photography one, that's what I'm looking at.

[1:21:43] Okay. So I'd like to make a motion recommending that we do not, the city council doesn't do that.

[1:21:51] Because we've done the most positive.

[1:21:53] So if you can make the motion on the positive then we have to go forward and we don't.

[1:21:57] Okay.

[1:21:58] Okay, so.

[1:22:01] Because of the fact that you could download it.

[1:22:04] Okay.

[1:22:07] So make a motion that we fund the...

[1:22:12] Do we have to make a motion on every single application?

[1:22:16] I would really like it if you would do it.

[1:22:18] I would really like it if you do it because this is going to go before council and I'd like to have to.

[1:22:22] So you want us to make recommendations to fund and then we vote it down?

[1:22:26] So like last night, if you are all, I'm trying not to taint the vote.

[1:22:33] So if you are all in a, well, no, it doesn't even matter if you're all,

[1:22:39] If you make the motion in the positive,

[1:22:42] each person can vote yes in affirmative of that,

[1:22:47] making that motion go forward,

[1:22:48] or no against that motion.

[1:22:51] So that puts it in a place where it's the majority.

[1:22:55] So if you do the motions in the same way.

[1:22:59] Someone to help, some of the helpful folks for that

[1:23:01] is last night city council member,

[1:23:03] council member Mack Burnett said,

[1:23:05] we always make motions in the positive.

[1:23:06] when that group got there first.

[1:23:09] I make a motion recommending that the City Council fund

[1:23:12] the ground rules to violate photo project

[1:23:19] and the amount of $3,000.

[1:23:23] Is there a second?

[1:23:25] Second.

[1:23:26] All those in favor?

[1:23:28] Any questions on that?

[1:23:29] Sorry.

[1:23:30] Any discussion?

[1:23:31] All those in favor?

[1:23:38] All those against.

[1:23:40] All opposed?

[1:23:50] You know, it would, it would, oh, this is going to be a policy thing everyone, it's going to go my nose for next time.

[1:23:59] Almost there.

[1:24:01] Thank you.

[1:24:05] Do

[1:24:10] you want to take motion?

[1:24:13] I'd like to make a motion to recommend that the City Council fund Brown Girls do a Brown Girls do ballet project in the amount of $5,000.

[1:24:29] Second on the motion.

[1:24:30] Second the motion.

[1:24:31] That's why it's seconded.

[1:24:32] We have a motion and a second discussion on it.

[1:24:59] So the non-profit, which is the ballot,

[1:25:03] is asking for money so that they can run this space

[1:25:06] that you began sending them to do their classes.

[1:25:12] And they can hire, they're going to pay someone to coordinate.

[1:25:18] And they can also pay instructors for part

[1:25:26] of it.

[1:25:36] For eligible uses, for non-profit, for operations, production,

[1:25:41] part of schemes, any other questions

[1:25:52] on this?

[1:25:53] There's a motion and a second.

[1:25:57] All in favor of the motion?

[1:26:00] There's your move.

[1:26:01] I'm

[1:26:16] going to be minus 4, 7, 30, so we don't have an R&L.

[1:26:19] No one said 9, so I'm already out.

[1:26:21] Oh, I should have known.

[1:26:24] OK.

[1:26:27] All those opposed?

[1:26:45] You voted in favor, okay, thank you.

[1:26:54] Is there a motion for journey dancer?

[1:27:05] You're about to sit all over the place. I put these in order. I'm sorry, I'm just...

[1:27:15] Okay, the next one, yes, is... just shoveled me.

[1:27:23] The next one is Duckville Paws and Paint. It is submitted as an annual arts program grant,

[1:27:30] which has a funding limit of up to $20,000, eligibility requires a 501C-3 non-profit arts

[1:27:37] organization, the Project Summary, a dog-friendly outdoor art party featuring pet themed activities,

[1:27:44] local artist's food, vendors, and fundraiser stations at Rotary Park kicking off a new

[1:27:50] dog park annual after that.

[1:27:54] The total project budget is $10,000, the requested amount is $10,000.

[1:27:59] Alex, would you read the part of the policy about the annual?

[1:28:03] Because, refresh my thinking, because I think of that as an arts series,

[1:28:07] like what you might have in the theater or the symphony.

[1:28:10] One, annual arts program grants purpose to support non-profit organizations

[1:28:14] presenting a full season of arts programming.

[1:28:18] Eligibility 501c, three non-profit arts organizations,

[1:28:21] funding limit up to $20,000, eligible uses, operations,

[1:28:25] production, artist fees, venue rental, requirement must occur in Duncanville and serve a public purpose.

[1:28:32] Acknowledgement, city and or commissioned logo must appear in all marketing.

[1:28:36] So as I hear that an annual series is not an annual event.

[1:28:40] So a series would be something like the theatre does.

[1:28:42] Right, so the season of events here would be...

[1:28:47] It's not a state. This is the one that has not had a budget.

[1:28:51] That's why I think that I should not find a specific...

[1:28:56] Is this about the arts or is this about the dog part?

[1:28:59] I was going to bring up the dog part.

[1:29:01] But I think about the, I think, well, they're promoting the dog part,

[1:29:05] they're promoting the dog part.

[1:29:07] And they're utilizing an arts promotion.

[1:29:11] Arts is a way to promote art.

[1:29:13] Yes.

[1:29:13] And I think that it's a family of, a family of people, right?

[1:29:17] People's pets are a part of their family.

[1:29:20] And I think that it also, I don't know,

[1:29:23] I really like this one.

[1:29:26] I think that community engagement is important.

[1:29:29] It's one of our, once again, I'm gonna go refer back

[1:29:32] to our comprehensive plan and community engagement.

[1:29:35] We're supposed to be pillars of, you know,

[1:29:37] we're up here basically providing community

[1:29:40] engagement opportunities and that's open to everybody.

[1:29:43] And so I think that this is a great,

[1:29:47] it's a great way for you to be able to get out and say,

[1:29:50] Hey, come down here and you know do some art with us, you know all of a sudden. I think that's cute

[1:29:58] So

[1:30:01] I love that, and I love Roger. But my question was, would you read, because I want us to talk about that line in the policy, because the policy reads to me that it has to be annual series. That's how I read it. Can you read it here for the record?

[1:30:17] A full season.

[1:30:18] A full season. So a season, this is an annual event, a season would be like the symptom has a season.

[1:30:43] We don't have a budget, so we don't know what they're going to do in the $10,000 per state, is there a budget somewhere today?

[1:30:51] what you get, what you saw is what you got.

[1:30:53] Yeah, they just, to me, they're not what they did.

[1:30:57] It's $10,000, they just want $10,000, that was it.

[1:30:59] But I like the whole, I like the event.

[1:31:03] I just wasn't getting one.

[1:31:07] But it's higher than $10,000.

[1:31:09] Well, so the-

[1:31:11] Because Rotary has money, Tri-City has money,

[1:31:14] they, everybody likes a little pop, pop.

[1:31:19] And we've got our pockets all the time for them.

[1:31:22] Well, I'm even wondering if it's identified correctly, because if it's once a year, that's an event.

[1:31:28] If they were going to do this like a season, like you'd have the symphony, then I think it would apply to the...

[1:31:33] I'm not sure it applies by the way that Alex just wrote in the policy. That's my reply.

[1:31:40] A series, a season, is you're going to go and you're going to see...

[1:31:44] if you're going to go to the opera,

[1:31:46] there's going to be five operas in a season.

[1:31:49] But the question is, is the season defined as that

[1:31:52] as a requirement?

[1:31:53] Like, isn't a season or because you

[1:31:56] can have one thing a season, and that's your annual season

[1:32:01] on event?

[1:32:02] So I don't know.

[1:32:03] Just considering a full season of arts programming,

[1:32:06] so it just seems to me that definition would be,

[1:32:12] I can offer season and all or something like that.

[1:32:14] I think it's a cool project, but I think it qualifies as a single project.

[1:32:19] And in that, I know my personal experience in applying for money,

[1:32:24] it's up to the entity to say how much, you can ask for $10,000 and we'll get three.

[1:32:32] So, I mean, I think it qualifies under that single project,

[1:32:36] and I think it's a cool event that could grow and do some great things in the city.

[1:32:40] I don't think it's an act, I don't think it qualifies as the annual season, but I think it qualifies as an individual event, and I think the Rotary would probably be grateful for whatever they got.

[1:32:53] You know, when I spoke to the Rotary recently, and they're warm, and they're welcoming, and I had the members come up and they say, how can we help the Arts Commission, the Kennedys offered to donate to the Arts Fund.

[1:33:06] My only hang-up is I don't think it...

[1:33:09] Have we defined the season, what does season mean?

[1:33:11] Well, a series is a series.

[1:33:12] I mean, that's a series.

[1:33:13] No, have we defined it?

[1:33:14] Do we have a definition?

[1:33:16] I would call it an industry.

[1:33:17] No.

[1:33:18] So I look at it as an industry definition.

[1:33:22] So then I can finish.

[1:33:23] Thank you, Mr. Yeah.

[1:33:27] He's trying to get your attention for a few.

[1:33:29] I think, well, just going to finish my series.

[1:33:32] I think this is a thing.

[1:33:33] This is my personal opinion that I'm holding it against you.

[1:33:37] I'm holding it against you right now.

[1:33:39] No, but I think that, I just feel like there's not a define,

[1:33:45] like we can define in our mind what we're used to, but once again, even like Amy,

[1:33:49] Amy is so well versed in applying for grants and stuff like that.

[1:33:52] But once again, this is the first time we've done this.

[1:33:55] And I think that some of these things, we don't have a definition of what a season is.

[1:33:58] You know, specifically, we didn't provide them, this is the definition of season.

[1:34:02] So I think that they're, we're a little shaky, and they're going to be a little shaky.

[1:34:06] Read that part, then, and I'll take it on to you.

[1:34:09] Alex, one more time, Reed, what's in the policy about it?

[1:34:11] Thank you, Alex.

[1:34:13] Well, there's another part that you may want to catch in this.

[1:34:16] OK, annual arts program grants, purpose

[1:34:20] to support nonprofit organizations

[1:34:22] presenting a full season of arts programming,

[1:34:27] eligibility, 501C3 nonprofit arts organizations,

[1:34:31] funding limit, up to $20,000, eligible uses,

[1:34:35] is operations production, artist's fees,

[1:34:37] venue rental, requirement must occur at Duncanville

[1:34:39] and serve a public purpose, acknowledgement,

[1:34:42] city, and arts commission.

[1:34:43] I think it qualifies for a single.

[1:34:46] Oh, did you want me to read the single?

[1:34:48] Yes.

[1:34:49] To support a single public facing arts project or event,

[1:34:53] eligibility, individuals, nonprofits, businesses,

[1:34:55] city departments, and the Duncanville Arts Commission,

[1:34:58] funding limit, first time applicants up to three,

[1:35:02] first-time applicants that are not sitting up to up to $3,000 non-reimbursable

[1:35:08] requirement must occur in Duncanville and serve a public purpose and then

[1:35:13] acknowledgement for the Arts Commission.

[1:35:14] So are we thinking it would be more bad than the way they classified it in the application they turned in?

[1:35:20] Because it's a non-profit, it's not a non-profit.

[1:35:22] I'm going to go back and I'm going to go to the end of May.

[1:35:25] And then you're back Tim.

[1:35:27] So can we, even though they apply for an annual art program,

[1:35:31] maybe they just click the wrong button,

[1:35:33] can we change it to a single project or support grant

[1:35:37] because that seems to me a better fit

[1:35:41] and just because they ask for the max doesn't mean

[1:35:45] we would have to give them $3,000 if we give them $1,000

[1:35:48] because we have no budget.

[1:35:50] We don't know what they want to spend it for

[1:35:52] on necessarily. And so my question was, can we switch it even though you're the other type of grant?

[1:36:01] Couldn't we do that? I think you would do it the same way.

[1:36:04] How can we do that because we're 5-0-0-2-3? That's what I think.

[1:36:07] They were probably like, oh we're 5-0-2-3, that's what we're 5-2-2. But Tim, they're in.

[1:36:12] Well, you know, I think it's good. I think, first of all, we're the arts commission. I don't think this is an artistic event.

[1:36:19] I think it says, ain't, you're going to see the dogs and the things, and what's the paint.

[1:36:24] But you know, and then you're going to do all this other stuff that you need money for.

[1:36:27] But that's not, that's not our commission to my mind.

[1:36:31] If we're going to take money from that dog event away from a real arts thing,

[1:36:36] then I'm not in favor of doing that.

[1:36:38] Secondly, it says 501c3 arts program.

[1:36:44] It says non-profit arts organization.

[1:36:47] Rotary is not an arts organization per se.

[1:36:50] It's a different kind of organization.

[1:36:52] What are those two points?

[1:36:54] I don't think they're cool.

[1:36:56] That's exactly what I was going to say about it.

[1:37:00] Plus, without seeing what they were even thinking of

[1:37:04] for the $10,000, I thought that was a part of it.

[1:37:07] We have to see what their detailed budget is, and we don't.

[1:37:10] And so I think, I don't think we can reduce it

[1:37:14] without seeing what they were asking for in the first place.

[1:37:17] Here's a, would you read in the policy

[1:37:18] where it talks about promotion of the arts

[1:37:21] and they didn't have a conversation to Tim's point,

[1:37:23] is this promoting the arts?

[1:37:25] Well, we were paying the rocks a couple of months ago,

[1:37:27] so I mean, that's it, we were dogs.

[1:37:30] Right, but I think the thing about it is,

[1:37:33] well, I also think the thing about it is, though,

[1:37:35] is even though we can say, well,

[1:37:36] it's not an art thing, it is an art thing,

[1:37:38] because, I mean, it's a family engagement thing

[1:37:41] for the community, and it's still art.

[1:37:43] And I've been to one where they have animal painting,

[1:37:49] you know, people, doctor animals, and the odd things.

[1:37:52] And we did, during the conference, this stuff.

[1:37:55] Was it pets or art?

[1:37:56] It was, they bought their pets.

[1:37:58] Yeah, I know, it was pets.

[1:37:59] And they were doing it.

[1:38:00] So was it a day of art?

[1:38:02] That's my question.

[1:38:03] Isn't that a day of art with pets, though?

[1:38:05] Because if you could do a day of art with them.

[1:38:06] So here's another way to look at it, so we have a lot of questions for the eligibility.

[1:38:14] Rotary may choose for us not to make a decision on this, and they may want to choose to reapply.

[1:38:21] And so it may be more advantage, because it looks like, I don't remember when the date was,

[1:38:29] it could be more advantageous for them if we choose not to fund it and they can reapply

[1:38:34] they hit some of these things and get the full amount so they can apply in

[1:38:40] September they would not meet it they would not make it in time the awards

[1:38:55] would not go out of time. I don't know. I don't know. We were picked rocks. I don't see how this is

[1:39:02] in our project. And it's bringing families out and it's engaging them and I mean I know that they

[1:39:07] may not have put the application into the correct segment and we may not have to give them $10,000

[1:39:11] and we may not even have to give them $3,000 but I think that it's a different way to engage

[1:39:16] families with artistic abilities. I think it's a great way to also engage you know we did a

[1:39:22] a sensory area at our last event, and it was huge.

[1:39:26] And I think that pets, and people bringing out their pets

[1:39:30] and stuff, and especially those pets

[1:39:32] that are convenient that we really know.

[1:39:38] Service dogs.

[1:39:38] Service dogs and stuff like that.

[1:39:40] Like, I don't know, we've worked

[1:39:41] with a lot of better programs and stuff.

[1:39:43] And I just, I really like this program.

[1:39:45] And I think it's really something fun.

[1:39:46] I think it's different.

[1:39:48] And I think there's no better time

[1:39:50] And you have the kids that I think their buddy has the and in that.

[1:39:56] Well, I was going to make a motion recommending that we fund the Dr.

[1:40:02] Hill pause and paint for $3,000.

[1:40:06] I second that motion. Hold on.

[1:40:08] I've got an idea that you may want to consider so that it's consistent making a motion

[1:40:14] recommending that the city council because you're making a recommendation to city council that they fund.

[1:40:20] the pause and paint amending that it be moved to a single project as you were

[1:40:28] mentioning and then the amount and so there's so there's no budget

[1:40:45] is a matter. No details. Why do you think that's not having the budget attached?

[1:40:55] It's a lot of, and we're talking, I know someone wants $2,000 to do that one day just from

[1:41:00] my experience of doing events. I know they're expensive, you're dealing with dogs, you're

[1:41:04] dealing with paint, you're dealing with families, you're talking about all the different

[1:41:07] things they want to have there, vendors, fundraising stations, have themed activities,

[1:41:11] to these local artists, the ringing out local artists,

[1:41:14] they have to pay for those.

[1:41:15] So I just feel like is the ask is making big,

[1:41:19] but if it's our, we know they're expensive.

[1:41:21] And I think that the rotary supports the community

[1:41:26] and we support the community.

[1:41:27] And I think that anywhere we can partner

[1:41:30] to make sure that we, yeah,

[1:41:31] that we do a good job in bringing some cohesions.

[1:41:36] But let's talk, I wanna talk on Tim's

[1:41:38] because this goes back to policy

[1:41:40] because the hot policy and believe it's hot has to be promotion of the arts and

[1:41:46] Tim just brought up is this are we promoting the arts or promoting the

[1:41:50] park or the dogs and can we talk about that because that's a because that's a

[1:41:56] hot law. What about this local artist that's not the sword in the arts? That was a question so like

[1:42:03] What's the talk about local art?

[1:42:06] It's all friendly, outdoor art party.

[1:42:08] First of all, it's an art party.

[1:42:10] And it has pecking activities.

[1:42:13] It's providing local, bringing out local artists.

[1:42:16] The food vendors, I don't know about that being part of it.

[1:42:18] But fundraising stations.

[1:42:20] But I think that, I also think it's a new park.

[1:42:24] And I think that if we can be a part of that,

[1:42:25] that looks good for us.

[1:42:26] Because another thing that you've got to remember

[1:42:28] is, is that we require you to put our market us in these things.

[1:42:33] I like that too.

[1:42:35] So you know my, and I just want to remind us

[1:42:39] that when Parks and Rec came to talk to us about the dog park,

[1:42:42] we even said to them that don't forget to include us,

[1:42:47] the arts, that there needs to be art.

[1:42:50] So here it's about that.

[1:42:52] We should be.

[1:42:52] I mean, I see everybody's, my only concern in this

[1:42:56] I do think that they, when they first applied,

[1:42:58] they applied to the wrong one.

[1:43:00] So if we're talking about an arts-based event,

[1:43:03] I think, because, so look, the state of Texas

[1:43:07] knows that people can get kind of hinky with hot money.

[1:43:11] And so they have an antenna on hot,

[1:43:13] or they're trying to, you know, kind of fix it,

[1:43:16] or they're really being creative about it.

[1:43:18] So if the arts commission says,

[1:43:22] yeah, this is hot compliant,

[1:43:24] City Council can decide whether it is or not.

[1:43:27] It's just a recommendation.

[1:43:28] Yeah.

[1:43:29] But there's a, yes, Anne.

[1:43:30] There may be a place for a mural in the dog park.

[1:43:34] Yeah.

[1:43:34] Of dogs.

[1:43:36] I do like the idea that we're supporting a new.

[1:43:42] I think it's new and I think anything that we can be involved in

[1:43:45] and look like we're helping the presenter get out there.

[1:43:47] I mean, I think we, and that's just my personal opinion

[1:43:51] but I always think that anytime we get a chance

[1:43:52] market ourselves like we just the fact that we're associated with that that's

[1:43:57] good press for us we're trying to create a cultural district like that's to me is

[1:44:01] this is our community working for us.

[1:44:04] People are very, a lot of GF cats and dogs, people are very sensitive to their animals and like I said I've been to one where they had palm art.

[1:44:16] They've taken our little palm art.

[1:44:21] So let me ask you this, let me ask you this, what I want to know is, because we love Rotary,

[1:44:29] we love the project, but I want to hear on the record, why is it hot compliant?

[1:44:34] Why is it hot?

[1:44:39] One spin on that is the Rotary is an international club and they might invite people from other clubs and so I could see how it could be tourist.

[1:44:55] Okay, so it's an international club. It's bringing in local artists.

[1:45:03] I just want to, so I just want to know the record that we're having that conversation because we have a commissioner who is concerned that it's maybe an unmarked project and maybe it's not hot.

[1:45:11] And perhaps maybe one of our vendors does work.

[1:45:17] So there's another, there's not a detailed budget.

[1:45:19] It says, I mean, that's a document checklist.

[1:45:22] A detailed budget budget list is an acquired document,

[1:45:26] and we don't have that.

[1:45:28] I think it's a great project.

[1:45:30] I even see the outside of it, and I'm all about the pets,

[1:45:34] and I see the international.

[1:45:35] But I would ask for a budget for everyone,

[1:45:37] and the fact that they didn't include one.

[1:45:39] Now, we can still make the motion with the caveat

[1:45:41] we recommended to City Council upon.

[1:45:44] If we've done the other caveats

[1:45:45] upon the receipt of a detailed budget,

[1:45:47] or something like that, how money would be spent.

[1:45:49] But we don't have anything, the others have given us that budget against and there's so much on our states, there's so much on them a little whatever, but we don't have the tail budget and that wasn't a requested coverage, it says required documents, and that's one of them.

[1:46:03] But I think also they did ask for a budget $6,000.

[1:46:07] It didn't give a itemized let's know but I mean when the blue best came in they

[1:46:13] didn't they just asked for some money and didn't give us no act didn't give us

[1:46:17] no budget and everybody's ready to fund it in the first day so I feel like what's

[1:46:21] good for the goose is good for the gander they did give us a budget did they

[1:46:24] give us an itemized list it didn't say to get this itemized list but it also lets us know the party

[1:46:34] feature in the activities of the artist who did fundraising stations so I think

[1:46:38] is there a detail that there are do they list them out of the budget not

[1:46:41] necessarily but it did not ask for a budget so I'm sorry I'm sorry Alex when

[1:46:48] you were doing applications and people they're incomplete did you see that as

[1:46:54] incomplete and

[1:46:58] we were asking for a budget did we also provide them an

[1:47:01] example what we wanted no I didn't provide anybody with a sample of what

[1:47:09] I think it was long as far as a budget, because you guys never determined what it was.

[1:47:15] That was never discussed as, this is the format we want for our budget.

[1:47:18] All right, because under section six it just, it's not a budget and they completed it.

[1:47:23] We were separately, I think it's in detail, it's in detail.

[1:47:29] I don't know.

[1:47:30] I don't know.

[1:47:31] That's a lot of money.

[1:47:33] Right, that's a lot.

[1:47:35] We're not giving them $2,000 to literally-

[1:47:37] We're looking at the three.

[1:47:39] We're looking at the 30% for 1,000.

[1:47:42] I got this for $1,000.

[1:47:45] It's going to cost more than that for the rest.

[1:47:47] I believe you have a motion.

[1:47:50] Is there a motion?

[1:47:50] There's a motion.

[1:47:51] I have a motion.

[1:47:52] Yeah, she seconded it.

[1:47:54] Well, wait a minute, you were going to read more than that.

[1:47:57] Well, I make a motion recommending the City Council

[1:48:01] fund the Duncan Hill Paws and Paint project

[1:48:05] in the amount of, in the amended amount, $3,000.

[1:48:10] It was $1,002.

[1:48:13] I mean, yes, he wanted it.

[1:48:14] Well, I'm gonna second it for $3,000.

[1:48:16] And she seconded it for $3,000.

[1:48:17] That's only 30% of what they asked.

[1:48:19] But if he wanted a friendly amendment,

[1:48:21] if she agrees to it, no,

[1:48:25] or he can make a motion to amend the amount

[1:48:28] and he filled on his motion first,

[1:48:30] and if he passed or fails,

[1:48:32] and then he could go back to it.

[1:48:32] Do you guys understand that?

[1:48:36] So you have to ask her, and then she agreed to work for an amendment.

[1:48:41] A hotspot.

[1:48:42] You're on a hotspot.

[1:48:44] That's OK.

[1:48:48] I'd like to keep my motion at $3,000.

[1:48:52] You want to make a motion?

[1:48:54] No.

[1:48:55] So there's a motion.

[1:48:56] There's a second.

[1:48:57] Any more discussion?

[1:49:02] This is one of those things where we say, do we love the project?

[1:49:04] like we love the organization, but is it compliant?

[1:49:07] I have questions on whether it's compliant, but fine.

[1:49:13] I think it's fair though, but I think we're gonna have,

[1:49:15] the first time we're gonna have questions about everything

[1:49:18] but we're just trying to do it right.

[1:49:19] And I think that these applicants are trying to do something

[1:49:24] positive in the community that is arts focused

[1:49:27] and everybody has a different realm on what arts is.

[1:49:31] And so I think it's, we have to give them a little

[1:49:34] grace just like we deserve a little grace as we're doing this to make sure

[1:49:38] we're making the best decisions for the commission. Any more discussion on this

[1:49:41] item? If we are not funding them, do we think that they will still put on an event like this?

[1:49:50] I suspect they would but that's I can't say that. I don't know but I think it's something that they've already

[1:50:09] Well, I don't think that's necessarily a question. I think the question is, if the state comes back to the city and says, I'm sorry, you use that money inappropriately, I think that's the question I'm asking. I love the program. I love the program.

[1:50:20] Well, I think that the deposit on paint, though, to me,

[1:50:22] is that it brings in tourism of people

[1:50:24] to bring their pets in town.

[1:50:25] I think it's an event that people would come,

[1:50:28] whether it's crossing in from the Sodor River in Prairie,

[1:50:30] or whatever it may be.

[1:50:31] I think that it's promoting local artists.

[1:50:34] I think that those are the two things that I'm most,

[1:50:39] that I think that's qualified for options.

[1:50:42] Do you think, and I'm asking,

[1:50:43] there's just so we're having this conversation,

[1:50:45] that we're spending too much time for 3,000 dollars.

[1:50:50] Any more discussion on this?

[1:50:52] Well, for the amendment, if it's only $3,000,

[1:50:55] I still think we need a detailed budget of what that's for.

[1:50:59] Ask for it for a friendly amendment.

[1:51:02] You're suggesting $2,000?

[1:51:03] No, no, I said, if we're going to say $3,000,

[1:51:06] we still need a detailed budget of what even that's for.

[1:51:11] Is that OK?

[1:51:12] Does it need to be any motion?

[1:51:14] You have to accept for a friendly amendment.

[1:51:17] She says, yeah.

[1:51:18] can you repeat the motion? I make a motion recommending the city council fund

[1:51:25] Duncanville pause and paint project in the amount of $3,000 and supply us with a

[1:51:33] detailed budget for the event,

[1:51:38] is that okay?

[1:51:40] If

[1:51:44] you say, if you say, if that's what you want, that's what you want, it should be if they

[1:51:48] supplies.

[1:51:49] Well, we don't have a chance.

[1:51:51] But so here's the thing, is the application ain't complete, because you just changed the

[1:51:56] motion to include a detailed budget.

[1:51:57] So your suggestion is the application's incomplete.

[1:52:01] Isn't that what we did this morning?

[1:52:02] I said first, okay, I'll withdraw my, okay, thank you, but this is such a small

[1:52:09] amount.

[1:52:09] Let's go with the original motion.

[1:52:13] So let's finish this and take a five minute break, okay?

[1:52:16] Yes.

[1:52:18] Okay, so would you repeat the motion?

[1:52:20] All right.

[1:52:20] I make a motion recommending the City Council fund

[1:52:23] so I can go pause some paint project in the amount of $3,000.

[1:52:28] Uh, is there a second?

[1:52:29] I second the motion.

[1:52:30] All in favor?

[1:52:31] Aye.

[1:52:33] Uh-oh, no.

[1:52:35] Split.

[1:52:39] I feel like Anne.

[1:52:50] Okay, they got the cats right here. That's different. Do you remember when the cats cut my elegant hair?

[1:52:58] Okay, got that. All of those.

[1:53:09] The city council know the vote?

[1:53:11] Yes, I will include that.

[1:53:24] Let's take a five minute break, it is 8 o'clock.

[1:53:29] 12, Arts Commission is back in session, let's go ahead and continue.

[1:53:33] Thank you.

[1:53:33] Mr. Handy, you have the floor.

[1:53:36] Dance Recital is the event title.

[1:53:39] Single Project Support Grant is the category.

[1:53:43] Each year our studio has an annual recital.

[1:53:46] All of our dancers are ages two years of to 18 years old perform dances on a stage they

[1:53:55] have been learning in our program.

[1:53:58] We teach ballet, tap, hip-hop, lyrical, and African dancing.

[1:54:04] The total project budget is $20,735.

[1:54:09] The requested amount is $10,000.

[1:54:14] Discussions?

[1:54:18] Well, you already decided to cast the indefinable,

[1:54:21] and I think if it's going to be indefinable,

[1:54:23] the cast are readjusted.

[1:54:25] They're about that because this is for Dallas Theatre Center,

[1:54:27] which sounds like it probably is.

[1:54:30] I don't really need to ask for a, I'll just say,

[1:54:33] downspot is the equivalent of that.

[1:54:35] They need to consider the definition.

[1:54:40] So I kind of read that and said in the past,

[1:54:42] it's better than nothing else.

[1:54:43] Yes, but these figures are not definitely

[1:54:47] the figures of my assumption.

[1:54:50] I mean, what venue in the...

[1:54:54] Is that the one they're gonna have to see the list?

[1:54:56] I think they're going to have it at the dance studio.

[1:54:59] Yes, and I don't see how that can be a little bit accurate.

[1:55:04] Maybe the kids.

[1:55:07] Tim, can you just tell us if you just

[1:55:09] see the data home freeze or the computer center?

[1:55:16] The way that I read that, we said the passive data

[1:55:19] for children's data for dollars.

[1:55:21] But they're going to be doing it at the studio

[1:55:22] and see the origin of the slide.

[1:55:24] That's how I read it.

[1:55:24] I think sales are estimated 500 is going to have to be some place to get these $5,000.

[1:55:29] On the budget it says revenue to sales estimated by new tickets.

[1:55:33] That's what we're getting.

[1:55:34] That's what we're getting at.

[1:55:35] And I-

[1:55:37] Well, I think that's concession sales.

[1:55:38] So I'm assuming they may be having it running some place here.

[1:55:42] Because everyone knows these two projects and things have to be another level.

[1:55:45] Yeah.

[1:55:46] So yeah.

[1:55:47] I'm thinking the fact that they said concession sales.

[1:55:50] I don't think it may be a, maybe the 10 ounce.

[1:55:54] Matt.

[1:55:55] Is the high school auditorium used for things like that?

[1:55:58] You know what it, you know what it may be

[1:56:00] at a school facility, that's right.

[1:56:02] That would be, that'd be the only one.

[1:56:04] Yeah, they've never done it at a school.

[1:56:06] Yeah.

[1:56:07] We don't know that though.

[1:56:08] So one of the things I know that Alex is doing

[1:56:10] when he was taking these applications is he was,

[1:56:12] he was following up to make sure

[1:56:13] they said it's going to be somewhere

[1:56:15] he would check to make sure he's working.

[1:56:16] Only if it was city facilities.

[1:56:18] Only if it's not marked.

[1:56:19] Because those I can verify easily.

[1:56:22] A move said that they requested a single project to support grant, which, and then it asked

[1:56:27] for $10,000 by a judge on the first time it fell a $3,000.

[1:56:34] For a motion?

[1:56:36] Yes.

[1:56:36] Back.

[1:56:38] I would like to make a motion recommending to the City Council to fund the Journey

[1:56:48] Dance

[1:56:48] the center dance recital for the amount of $3,000.

[1:56:55] Second.

[1:56:55] There's a motion and a second discussion.

[1:57:00] No discussion?

[1:57:02] Would this be in Duncan?

[1:57:04] Oh yeah, would the cab be out of the view?

[1:57:06] Do you want to?

[1:57:07] Yes, so here we go again.

[1:57:09] I mean, recommending to the city council

[1:57:15] the dirty dance recital for the amount of money

[1:57:20] or $3,000 with a caveat that it be in or located in Duncanville.

[1:57:27] Okay.

[1:57:28] We have a motion and a second. Any discussion?

[1:57:32] No discussion?

[1:57:33] No.

[1:57:34] Okay. All those in favor, raise your hand.

[1:57:38] You didn't have to look at that.

[1:57:40] Anybody opposed?

[1:57:42] Next.

[1:57:43] Next.

[1:57:45] This says Ron Thompson.

[1:57:47] Do you want to refuse your shot?

[1:57:49] No.

[1:57:50] I don't know, I don't know.

[1:57:52] It's only about the ones.

[1:57:57] Okay, L-Affair submitted as a single project support grant.

[1:58:02] L-Affair's two-day community arts event launched in 2024

[1:58:05] by Dungabill residents Gail Sleiger and Sue Clark

[1:58:08] to support the newly formed Dungabill Arts Commission

[1:58:10] through public awareness and grassroots fundraising.

[1:58:16] Organized in just four weeks, the inaugural event

[1:58:19] drew approximately 200 attendees and artists from across the region raised $400 for the

[1:58:24] Dunger Bill Arts Fund and received local media coverage. Laying the foundation for an

[1:58:29] expanded 2025 event focused on visibility, revenue, and long-term opportunity for the

[1:58:36] city's creative community. The total project budget is $16,650. Requested amount is $4,950

[1:58:46] Though, as I understand, as of this afternoon,

[1:58:49] that requested amount may have changed.

[1:58:54] So I can't talk about this.

[1:58:57] Because the Arts Commission, this is what the Arts Commission

[1:59:01] did last time, this would be money that would not

[1:59:03] be an external distribution.

[1:59:05] It would stay within the Arts Commission.

[1:59:10] And this is too, I can't even pitch.

[1:59:14] So yes, so the amount requested has

[1:59:17] been amended to $3,000.

[1:59:19] A big price, huh?

[1:59:19] Yes, ma'am.

[1:59:20] Wasn't that the match anyway?

[1:59:22] Yes, ma'am.

[1:59:22] So why was it originally asked for $49.50?

[1:59:24] I can't tell you now.

[1:59:26] Technically, this is an internal event.

[1:59:29] It's the same thing as you are basically

[1:59:31] asking yourselves to fund events that you are a part of.

[1:59:36] So here's one of those.

[1:59:37] It sort of falls under the supplementary.

[1:59:42] It sort of falls under the call for artists

[1:59:44] where you are because it's one of you pitching it to yourselves.

[2:00:00] Because it's a fundraiser for the arts commission.

[2:00:05] Where's the budget? Everybody has a budget?

[2:00:07] A budget was submitted. And I'm the lead on it.

[2:00:13] Where's the budget though? It's not here.

[2:00:16] Here's a question. Did they rent the senior citizens

[2:00:19] and how much is that for such arrangement?

[2:00:23] Okay, so Alex, guys, I need to help with the language. So because

[2:00:28] But we agreed that we would not allow applicants to come in and present.

[2:00:35] Technically, this is an arts commission project like it was last year.

[2:00:44] So I can't present. I'm only going to move.

[2:00:48] Last year, it wasn't. It wasn't.

[2:00:51] It was before today.

[2:00:53] It was before afterwards?

[2:00:55] Yeah, we found out.

[2:00:56] It was individual.

[2:00:57] We did all that stuff last year.

[2:01:00] So I need help, y'all, I can't.

[2:01:01] Okay, so let me ask you these questions. This is the thing about it, right?

[2:01:05] So last year, Gail, excuse me, Miss Liger and Miss Clark came in and they told us about the event after it happened.

[2:01:15] We did not support it. It was not an arts commission event.

[2:01:18] It was something that they did for the arts commission, but that was not something that we came up with and we said, yeah, hopefully.

[2:01:23] This was something that they came and told us about the success after it happened.

[2:01:27] Would that be correct or not correct?

[2:01:29] No, we worked very hard that day, especially.

[2:01:32] We took easels over there.

[2:01:34] Many people, including Ron, helped them set up.

[2:01:38] We carried things.

[2:01:39] We supported it.

[2:01:41] We didn't.

[2:01:42] Was this something that we talked to them on an agenda?

[2:01:45] Was this ever on the agenda and discussed in many of our meetings?

[2:01:48] No.

[2:01:48] She came in, like you said, and spoke to us.

[2:01:50] they did it and they were doing it on our behalf to raise money for us they

[2:01:56] raised $400 so they raised $400 and now they want $5,000 and the total

[2:02:04] projected budget is $16,000 but we don't have one piece of paper that says

[2:02:08] what this funding is for. So Alex has an attached budget. There's actually a very

[2:02:12] robust budget in there and it's been amended to $3,000. And so the but the

[2:02:16] most that the four single project is $3,000. Correct. Right. And so

[2:02:20] therefore is is they only raised $400 last year. I can't see. I

[2:02:26] didn't mean to look at the $400 rate last year. I have to go

[2:02:35] and plug in and that will cause some time. But I can read

[2:02:41] out the budget. $4,000 for artists and speakers support, $1,850 for event production.

[2:02:50] Can you read the, so there's some amended language in there, not amended language, there's a language

[2:02:55] attached to the budget where it outlines the project in full scope. Where it talks about the

[2:03:03] roundtable and the mentorships. So it says that the newly formed back of the arts commission

[2:03:09] through to support us, do public awareness and grassroots fundraising to do what?

[2:03:16] So, if you can give me roughly 10 minutes, I will go print.

[2:03:24] Can I just say, can we move this down and work on their...

[2:03:29] Can we get a glass?

[2:03:31] Yeah, can you get a glass?

[2:03:33] Thank you.

[2:03:35] Well, we can't because you just watched.

[2:03:37] Okay, in the meantime...

[2:03:41] My understanding is like, it's not something we started but we supported it and it was an effort to raise money for us.

[2:03:52] They did it every year and last year we helped them with that.

[2:03:57] It's really not a...

[2:03:59] It was dancing.

[2:04:00] It's really not a...

[2:04:02] Mark's Commission sponsored event necessary.

[2:04:09] It is an arts event in that it brings in all sorts of works of art and the public is invited to view it and to see it, if they're making the money, the arts commission is the beneficiary of that, but that's a secondary thing, it truly does showcase art, and I think that's important, and it really showcases that high caliber of art in the school.

[2:04:37] I agree. I mean, I know it's an art, but my concern or my question is the 16650 budget

[2:04:45] is that 16650 coming out of the Arts Commission? They're only asking for $3,000. That's been

[2:04:53] amended. Only $3,000. So even though we're sort of part of that event, the 16650 we're

[2:05:01] I'm not worried about that.

[2:05:03] Not anymore than we're worried about the Journey Dance Center saying it was $20,735

[2:05:08] and we're only giving them $3,000.

[2:05:11] They said the real project was going to cost.

[2:05:13] Yeah, but we're saying that this is a part of the Duck andville Arts Commission.

[2:05:17] Yeah, but because our name is on Duck andville Arts Commission.

[2:05:20] Right, I know that.

[2:05:21] I'm just saying 16th.

[2:05:22] They're basically saying, we want to present this.

[2:05:25] Isn't that what they're saying?

[2:05:26] Is that what's being said?

[2:05:28] That we're presenting this at the Duck andville Arts Commission?

[2:05:30] So I would ask the art commission to consider something what's going to happen and this is not me pitching for this this is just general what's going to happen when the community comes together says I'm going to support the arts commission.

[2:05:45] I support your mission and I want to do something to support you.

[2:05:49] So the first one like the Rotary Club did right.

[2:05:54] Same thing.

[2:05:55] well it's not the same thing my only concern was is it hot relevant if that

[2:06:00] when he's going to come back see y'all can't talk about it because we said

[2:06:04] that we said that we can't take presentations so I can't talk about it

[2:06:07] but we can't talk about it. But the last year there were people from all over the place that came so what would you do?

[2:06:17] So are we going to prove it or not?

[2:06:20] Do you know what you guys think of it?

[2:06:23] Okay.

[2:06:28] So I can make a motion to approve it for $3,000.

[2:06:33] I think, can you do it for the record the way you said it?

[2:06:36] Yeah.

[2:06:37] Read it.

[2:06:38] Read it the way it's described.

[2:06:41] motion I make the most recommend the city council fund in the amount of $2,500 what you want to

[2:06:57] do $3,000 second there's a motion and a second any other conversation about it every little

[2:07:28] Okay fix in his plate single-project support grant fix in his plate as a

[2:07:33] heartwarming family friendly stage play that blends music dancing drama and

[2:07:38] comedy to tell the story of a holiday gathering turned upside down after one woman fixes the

[2:07:44] wrong man's dinner plate. Routed in themes of love, tradition, and chaos, the 90-minute

[2:07:49] production offers a rich theatrical experience for all ages. With local talent both on stage

[2:07:55] and behind the scenes, the project will serve as a cultural celebration of the Dunkinville

[2:07:59] community, bringing neighbors together through shared storytelling and joyful connection.

[2:08:07] The, I believe the requested amount is 75, no, it's 3,000, 3,000.

[2:08:13] It's a single-project support grant. They're requesting $3,000. Is there a motion?

[2:08:18] I make a motion. I'm recommending the City Council fund fixing its plight and the amount of $3,000.

[2:08:25] Is there a second?

[2:08:26] I second that motion.

[2:08:27] Is there any discussion?

[2:08:28] No.

[2:08:29] So I do want to say something.

[2:08:31] Of course you do.

[2:08:32] Okay.

[2:08:32] Okay, okay, so they came and performed at the Juneteenth Celebration, correct?

[2:08:39] Yes.

[2:08:40] So we spent money on them then, they're asking for $3,000, you know, we can give them the

[2:08:48] whole $3,000, but I think they're going to do the better job for Juneteenth.

[2:08:54] So I don't know that we need to give them the whole $3,000, and I love them both,

[2:08:58] but I'm just being very honest.

[2:08:59] like this is the thing about it is we've waited a long time for this money and we

[2:09:03] just spent money with them and they could have came better than they came. So I just

[2:09:07] feel like it's I would like to amend that for $2,500. That's just my thought.

[2:09:12] Who did the motion? Who did the motion? You did the motion? Who did the motion? You did the motion. Is that a friendly amendment?

[2:09:17] I will not accept that for my own system. I love you too.

[2:09:24] Oh, there's a motion. Is there a second?

[2:09:28] I just have a counter comment that I really feel like that Candace and her husband, Cedric are proven people in the arts.

[2:09:39] I think for Juneteenth, she didn't realize she was the only one in the program and that's why it wasn't more extensive than that.

[2:09:47] She didn't realize. At least that's what she told me. She acted surprised.

[2:09:51] But anyway, I think they're marvelously creative.

[2:09:56] I'm reading her book right now.

[2:09:57] It's really creative in its language and its concepts.

[2:10:03] So I love the play.

[2:10:04] I love the fact that it's bringing plays and more diversity

[2:10:07] to plays in our area, you know?

[2:10:09] But I also think I'm just telling you what I think.

[2:10:11] I think that we've spent a lot of time with them.

[2:10:13] Or what happened.

[2:10:14] So that's just my opinion.

[2:10:15] I want to make sure it's on the record.

[2:10:16] We have a motion.

[2:10:17] We have a second.

[2:10:18] Is there any more discussion?

[2:10:19] So she's got some of your attention.

[2:10:22] Yes.

[2:10:23] That's what I'm going to do.

[2:10:25] You want to talk about it?

[2:10:27] No.

[2:10:28] No.

[2:10:28] Can someone repeat the motion?

[2:10:30] I'm sorry.

[2:10:30] I'm going to divide.

[2:10:30] The motion.

[2:10:31] Say the motion.

[2:10:32] Would you please repeat the motion?

[2:10:33] I will.

[2:10:36] I'll make a motion recommending the city council

[2:10:38] fund fixing its plight in the amount of $3,000.

[2:10:42] OK.

[2:10:42] And who's seconded?

[2:10:44] There was a second.

[2:10:44] Oh, I second that motion.

[2:10:46] Sarah's second.

[2:10:47] There's a motion.

[2:10:47] A second.

[2:10:48] Any more discussion?

[2:10:52] Any

[2:10:58] opposition?

[2:10:59] All right.

[2:11:01] Next.

[2:11:03] Hey Ruchino, good prizes.

[2:11:06] Alex.

[2:11:14] 26.

[2:11:17] Say 26 p.m.

[2:11:21] You know, this was all set out a certain way that you did two at the same time and messed

[2:11:27] the whole thing up.

[2:11:28] We're sorry.

[2:11:32] I blame Tiffany.

[2:11:33] What did I do?

[2:11:33] I don't know.

[2:11:36] I don't think that I don't love them, I do, but I just want to make sure that we do the best.

[2:11:43] Okay, Alex, that's a four.

[2:11:45] Laughter is Good Medicine, a single project support grant, project summary.

[2:11:51] Laughter is Good Medicine is a clean comedy event featuring eight semi-professional and or professional comics,

[2:11:58] each having 12 to 15 minutes to perform.

[2:12:00] Comics are given a strict definition of clean, i.e. no profane words, no vulgar stories, no obscene innuendas.

[2:12:09] Comedy is targeted towards anyone 12 years or older.

[2:12:14] The total projected budget of $3,000 requested amount is $3,000.

[2:12:21] There's a motion. I make

[2:12:26] a motion to recommend the city council to fund this project called

[2:12:33] a doctor's good medicine in the amount of $3,000.

[2:12:37] Is there a second?

[2:12:38] Second.

[2:12:38] Okay, I wanted to ask. Is it?

[2:12:43] I need you to say who's called the second.

[2:12:45] Who's called the second? I'm sorry.

[2:12:47] What?

[2:12:48] Okay, I just need you to recognize the second.

[2:12:50] Okay, Angel. So there's a second. There's a motion. There's a second.

[2:12:53] any conversation. I just want to make sure that comedy is art. It's performance art.

[2:13:02] It's performing arts. It's performing arts. So all these people are artists. And it's free.

[2:13:07] I'm gonna ask that. So is it is it is it compliant with our arts funding policy?

[2:13:11] Yes. Is it compliant with POT? Yes. Yes. It could be. It's attracting people to the theater. It's free. It's public.

[2:13:20] They said they bring fans from other cities.

[2:13:24] Yeah.

[2:13:25] Okay.

[2:13:26] Is there any other discussion?

[2:13:29] There's been a motion.

[2:13:30] There's a second.

[2:13:31] Is there any discussion?

[2:13:32] I would really like for someone to chime in on the hot.

[2:13:34] Does everybody think this is not compliant?

[2:13:36] Amy.

[2:13:37] Yeah.

[2:13:38] Amy's discussion is.

[2:13:39] I have concerns.

[2:13:40] But I think the truth is in putting a new state that they have performers that come from out of town is one of those things that you

[2:13:56] can turn to art, you know, there's no way to prove that they're going to do that.

[2:14:00] There's no way to prove that they're not, they say that they're going to.

[2:14:02] So if they do, they do, yeah, they need the hot pot chariot.

[2:14:06] But does their narrative meet the goal when the answer is yes, it does.

[2:14:12] If it fails, and I know just from my experience,

[2:14:16] if next year, I'm sorry, you didn't put heads in vets,

[2:14:21] then we know that for the next time around.

[2:14:26] You're always thrown to dark, but I do believe that there are narratives,

[2:14:30] unlike some of the others I don't feel I can address it as much,

[2:14:32] and you think your narrative addresses that,

[2:14:35] that they believe that they're going to put heads in vets.

[2:14:41] They're required to within 40 days of project completion to provide a report to the Arts

[2:14:47] Commission.

[2:14:47] Failure to report will result in an eligibility for four grant cycles.

[2:14:52] So that gets them through a fiscal year and that allows for you to make a decision on

[2:14:57] future things based on that reporting.

[2:15:00] We had a motion. We had a second. Did you second it, Angela?

[2:15:03] Yes.

[2:15:04] Angela did the second. Who did the motion?

[2:15:07] I did. Did I?

[2:15:08] Yes.

[2:15:09] Did you do the motion?

[2:15:10] All right. So there's a motion and a second. Any more discussion?

[2:15:13] All in favor?

[2:15:17] Any opposition?

[2:15:21] Okay. First Christian and First Christian, don't do that.

[2:15:23] Next.

[2:15:26] Can you walk faster? We're tired.

[2:15:28] Let's go out.

[2:15:34] You really want accurate notes as I could get as clear as possible.

[2:15:50] Master's Voice Christmas Concert is submitted as a single project support grant, special

[2:15:56] Christmas musical events shared with the community at no cost to their benefit and to benefit

[2:16:03] the Dunkinville Outreach community with non-perishable food item collected.

[2:16:10] Question?

[2:16:14] No, not the other budget.

[2:16:15] $3,000 projected budget and $3,000 requested amount.

[2:16:22] So the only question I have today is one of our, Alex if you want to go back to

[2:16:26] the funding policy. I believe it says religious. So would this be eligible? And if so, is there

[2:16:37] a way that, I mean, how does that work? Because, I mean, if it's Christmas music, it's going to talk about

[2:16:45] Jesus Christ, okay? And I'll talk about him every day. You know, but I'm saying, I'm asking this,

[2:16:50] is would that be, I mean, I don't see a church

[2:16:54] just doing jingle bells.

[2:16:56] So the question becomes is, is there

[2:16:59] is something that we say with the contingency about this

[2:17:02] so that we don't break the grandma guidelines?

[2:17:05] Or do we just see it as an entertainment for our community?

[2:17:08] Tim?

[2:17:09] So prohibitive use is political or religious program.

[2:17:14] It's the like, I think like black tape.

[2:17:17] religious program, you know, I could see if it's promoting, but it's more of a festival.

[2:17:25] The fact that it happens in the church, so if, so if they were asking for a choir scene to run the

[2:17:32] Christmas tree at Christmas time, and so everybody went to the park and they saw it, that's one

[2:17:36] thing. Is it changing if it happens in the church? I don't think so. No. The road is

[2:17:41] I love you to have the means in the church.

[2:17:43] Yeah, I know that doesn't bother me.

[2:17:44] And I also agree with Tim, is it's not,

[2:17:46] when I look at this as religious,

[2:17:50] they're not religious programming,

[2:17:52] meaning they're not having a church service

[2:17:54] and saying,

[2:17:55] it's not like Christmas,

[2:17:57] they need to be doing something.

[2:17:57] There's somebody out in Kent,

[2:17:58] following them, they're,

[2:18:00] it's, and then once again,

[2:18:02] this is first hand knowledge of this,

[2:18:03] but it's a really cool concert

[2:18:04] where they're bringing professional people to sing.

[2:18:07] And they do invite the entire community,

[2:18:09] if they they market it actually really all of it. I love it. So you do it for the week, pay for it or not.

[2:18:15] So you said they'll market it all over? They have to. But I do know that it will not.

[2:18:19] I think it brings a lot of people out. I like the fact that like I said, I don't have any problem with it.

[2:18:24] I just want to make sure we're within our guidelines. And you did say they'll market it all over?

[2:18:28] Thank you. They'll market it. So that it's hot compliant? Yes.

[2:18:31] Yeah, so I think it promotes the hot fund situation where we're going to tourism, many people visit our city.

[2:18:37] You know, I think that it's something annual that they do every year and they get they do the rich real job of good job

[2:18:42] And I think that

[2:18:44] Let's be associated with the things that are going going well in our community as a plus. So I I have a motion to say

[2:18:53] Describe the purpose and artistic vision of the proposed project nationally recognized singing group from Tulsa, Oklahoma

[2:18:59] Okay, that covers your hotel is there a motion

[2:19:07] I have a motion.

[2:19:07] We have a motion.

[2:19:08] Is there a second?

[2:19:09] Second.

[2:19:09] Any second?

[2:19:10] It's all OK.

[2:19:13] I make that motion recommend the City Council Fund,

[2:19:16] the first Christian Church of Buckingville,

[2:19:19] Master of Boys Christmas Contra, with an amount of $3,000.

[2:19:24] OK, wait.

[2:19:25] Yes.

[2:19:25] Could you amend it to 2,000?

[2:19:28] And we don't have a budget again.

[2:19:30] No, I'm not going to amend it.

[2:19:34] Second.

[2:19:34] And if I can speak to it, yeah, I second the motion.

[2:19:40] So we'll probably discuss.

[2:19:41] But also, right, they didn't have a detailed budget.

[2:19:45] So I just wanted to stay aware of, you know,

[2:19:49] if we're going to ask for it for one,

[2:19:50] we should ask for it for everybody.

[2:19:52] Did we ask for it with the Rotary Agreement

[2:19:54] that that would mean?

[2:19:54] Yeah.

[2:19:55] Yeah.

[2:19:55] And the motion's over.

[2:19:56] So you want to make the amendment?

[2:19:58] Yes.

[2:19:59] If we could amend the motion to say

[2:20:04] that we've funded in the amount of $3,000 with the,

[2:20:09] what does this stand for?

[2:20:10] To include a detailed budget.

[2:20:12] On the contingency that submits the tail budget.

[2:20:14] Yeah, provided these are budget.

[2:20:16] I love that.

[2:20:16] So, Ted, we don't really have a policy vote.

[2:20:20] I think anyone submitting a grant,

[2:20:23] especially where Hawthorne's at concerned,

[2:20:25] should be encouraged to,

[2:20:29] to host their people and the local account.

[2:20:32] like if there's a group kind of from Tulsa, you can host them in your homes or you can invite them to stay in the dumpings over tells.

[2:20:40] We're not that only sheet of paper because that's a policy, that's a good idea.

[2:20:44] So that's a real good idea.

[2:20:46] So we have a motion with a friendly amendment and we have a second.

[2:20:50] Yes.

[2:20:50] Any more discussion?

[2:20:51] Yeah.

[2:20:52] That's a great point, Tim. All in favor?

[2:20:56] Okay.

[2:20:57] We'll wait.

[2:20:58] Okay, change order.

[2:21:15] Opposition?

[2:21:34] Okay, let's make a move.

[2:21:36] What is next? Will it check?

[2:21:37] Yeah, school is the most fun place.

[2:21:41] So Miller's Tech is basically my life, this program, this is the mentor program.

[2:21:46] They're basically creating a programming series that allows them to go around.

[2:21:52] The high school students go around and how long is it going to be for the record team?

[2:21:58] Otherwise, Stephanie is going to do it.

[2:21:59] We got 21 minutes to go.

[2:22:05] Mentor moments, single projects, support grant, village tech schools would like to host seniors and

[2:22:10] individuals within the Dunkeville community to participate in an opportunity called Mentor Moments.

[2:22:17] The T students can share their knowledge and collaboratively work with seniors and

[2:22:22] individuals with mobility impairments to create an art piece together.

[2:22:27] But the art piece or pieces could then be displayed in public spaces in Dunganville, such as the community garden or city hall.

[2:22:34] The projected budget is $4,757 and the requested amount is $4,757.

[2:22:54] Okay, is there any discussion?

[2:22:56] Who's the second?

[2:22:57] I kind of vary in coverup for you, thank you.

[2:23:00] Any discussion?

[2:23:03] Just the logic of the hot funds.

[2:23:06] Alright, is a hot fund compliant?

[2:23:07] They want to put up 25 pieces of art in different places in the city that that makes it so that

[2:23:15] people can come from all their other cities to see all of these pieces of art.

[2:23:21] Is that compliant pot?

[2:23:28] Any discussion on that that it would not be?

[2:23:40] Okay, so we have a motion, we have a second, all in favor.

[2:23:54] Okay.

[2:23:55] Wait, did you, Sarah, all opposed?

[2:24:02] Everybody else is, okay, thank you.

[2:24:06] Sarah, was it, were you concerned about policy or hot or was it?

[2:24:09] I think it was like the hollers didn't really understand what was going

[2:24:16] on.

[2:24:19] Music performance, single project support credit.

[2:24:23] The band is a jazz band that performs popular jazz standards and songs from the great American Songbook.

[2:24:29] Band members are made up of two Duncanville, two of Duncanville's own, plus other professional musicians from the Dallas area.

[2:24:36] Here is the budget, total budget, the total budget and the budgeted request is $1,185.

[2:24:44] A breakdown is included.

[2:24:48] This is not one of the ones where I was able to confirm the reservation.

[2:24:54] There were two others that were submitted that I knew that it was at a public space and I wanted to confirm the reservation.

[2:24:59] There's some photos that were submitted.

[2:25:02] This is the ban.

[2:25:10] Okay, discussions, motions,

[2:25:14] okay, does it come forth

[2:25:15] with our funding policy?

[2:25:19] Yes, yes.

[2:25:21] Is it, I think it's hot because the band,

[2:25:27] some of the members are from the Dallas area,

[2:25:30] so outside of the suit, okay.

[2:25:33] So what do y'all think, is it hot?

[2:25:36] Does it meet the hot department?

[2:25:39] The band, it's at nine.

[2:25:41] I definitely get talked to just because it's good stuff.

[2:25:49] Okay.

[2:25:50] Is there a motion?

[2:25:52] I make a motion recommending the city council fund.

[2:26:05] Musical performance is the title.

[2:26:08] Musical performance.

[2:26:10] Journal applies.

[2:26:12] And they amount of $1,185.

[2:26:18] For a second?

[2:26:19] For a second.

[2:26:20] Seven seconds.

[2:26:21] Any discussion?

[2:26:23] All in favor, raise your hand.

[2:26:28] Is there any opposition?

[2:26:33] Please bear with me because you're getting a pet.

[2:26:36] I'm not.

[2:26:42] Yeah, that's it.

[2:26:46] Yes, could we nap that running cat?

[2:26:48] I'm trying, but you keep moving so fast.

[2:26:51] I can't get the math done.

[2:26:52] All right.

[2:26:54] Is anybody concerned at the speed at which we're moving?

[2:26:56] No.

[2:26:56] I think you're around $30,185 that you've committed based on the first three with $6,000,

[2:27:08] the next four came to $14,000, with this it was $10,185, I believe that brings it to

[2:27:17] $30,185, and you are now to your remaining five, you're on painting in the park.

[2:27:25] So Painting of the Park is a single project support grant, just a reminder because I feel

[2:27:30] like that has served you all well. Single project support grants for the funding limit

[2:27:36] is up to $3,000 for first-time applicants. Everybody who's applying tonight is a first-time

[2:27:40] applicant. Painting of the Park is a vibrant outdoor experience where guests can relax

[2:27:45] and unleash their creativity while painting and sipping in a beautiful park setting.

[2:27:50] the event features live music, creating a laid back artistic atmosphere perfect for connecting with others and enjoying nature.

[2:27:58] It's a very detailed budget, a very small print, I apologize.

[2:28:03] The request amount is...

[2:28:08] $1,000.

[2:28:10] That

[2:28:15] sometimes it falls for the very last

[2:28:22] page.

[2:28:23] We have a motion on the table.

[2:28:40] I have a question, are we being, and I don't, a legitimate question, if they apply at the

[2:28:49] wrong grant. Are we being generous by changing it for them? Or should the grant, or should the

[2:28:56] applicants reject it? No, I think this is the first time, and I think that we should give a grace.

[2:29:05] Okay. Give ourselves a grace. So I just want to, I think we need to give the grace because we

[2:29:10] haven't had that education part with that. It says in our policy. So the policy does state

[2:29:17] that we're going to have an education for this and we're going to have it.

[2:29:20] So we're all doing this including applicants for the first time.

[2:29:23] But I think like this time next year you guys are going to be so good at this

[2:29:26] because you've worked through three or four cycles.

[2:29:29] And I think that in the next 18 months what's going to happen is

[2:29:32] the policies and stuff are going to be in the, you know,

[2:29:35] everything will be better, you know.

[2:29:37] But I think they're going to be good.

[2:29:39] And I think it's nice to give them some grace and change the form

[2:29:43] because they want to do a project that would say we're offering them something.

[2:29:47] They don't have to do it.

[2:29:48] They don't have to do it.

[2:29:49] But we're at least offering them something.

[2:29:51] That's valid.

[2:29:52] Yes.

[2:29:52] So is it, does it comport with our funding policy?

[2:29:56] Yes.

[2:29:57] Yes.

[2:29:57] Is it hot?

[2:29:59] Yes.

[2:30:00] Is there any concerns about it not being caught? No.

[2:30:06] So we have a motion on the table, is there a second?

[2:30:10] I'm good.

[2:30:12] So Anne, some more discussion, yeah, Tim, so there is a second.

[2:30:19] Okay, so I'm just going to, I mean, this is, are they proposing putting on an event?

[2:30:25] If it sounds like it's an event in the leg sector?

[2:30:30] Yes.

[2:30:32] In the leg sector.

[2:30:33] Yes.

[2:30:34] Well, people can come out.

[2:30:35] Right.

[2:30:36] And

[2:30:38] they're there, and they put 10,000 together, because you can imagine it, to put an event

[2:30:46] like July or any of those others, you know, whatever they need to go back and stuff.

[2:30:54] Do we,

[2:30:57] the other question I know, and I think I've asked this before, is like, how do we know when they can fly and give them the money they need to fly?

[2:31:05] I know there's avenues and things like that.

[2:31:07] Would you read the policy on that?

[2:31:08] With grants?

[2:31:09] With grants.

[2:31:10] Well, they have to provide a recap and stuff for this.

[2:31:12] That's an important thing.

[2:31:13] That's one of the things.

[2:31:14] We did money first though, right?

[2:31:16] Yeah, and Alex, would you, because you asked a question about how they're going to follow up, would you just read what's in the policy?

[2:31:22] So yes, they are granted the money in advance of the event, rather than it being, that was one thing that you all were very clear about.

[2:31:29] You did not want this to be a reimbursement.

[2:31:35] And so, and this is for the purposes of if they want to come back, that's one of the points of this, and also to get reporting data.

[2:31:45] So, the grantee's responsibilities submit a final report within 40 days of project completion.

[2:31:52] Include documentation of project outcomes, financial details, attendance and public engagement,

[2:31:57] tours or hotel impact at that level.

[2:32:01] Failure to report will result in an eligibility for four grant cycles, which would be the equivalent of a fiscal year.

[2:32:09] Is that sufficient?

[2:32:10] Well, you know, I just, I guess in all of these, since it is, you know, if we don't get them $10,000, I mean, they'll have to find their recipe.

[2:32:19] If they can't use it, they can reduce it.

[2:32:21] Yeah, they don't want to use it, they can reduce it.

[2:32:23] I like that.

[2:32:25] Matt.

[2:32:27] My point concerned is that there's not a date.

[2:32:31] So if we could get them to nail down a specific...

[2:32:35] Should we be friendly with the amendment?

[2:32:38] that they provide us a date.

[2:32:40] So she made, so Angela made a motion.

[2:32:44] I think he made a motion. What do you mean? Yeah. So he'll take it for him.

[2:32:48] I have to

[2:32:55] follow in 2025, so fall, I figure, and I'll get the 10-year-old.

[2:33:01] Oh, it's the next month, though. I wonder if they don't do it for them.

[2:33:05] They didn't give us some money there. And they don't comply with what they've said.

[2:33:09] Now, one of the issues that I had was that I really don't have an individual.

[2:33:15] We just have downtown gallery, our museum.

[2:33:18] Well, I think I read that and I thought that's strange because we don't have a dump at all.

[2:33:23] But I think what they're doing is making a general statement about these kinds of events.

[2:33:29] It's generic. It's not specific to a dump at all.

[2:33:34] It is.

[2:33:34] So the bender packet is downtown gallery and museum of art that is who is a client for it

[2:33:41] And they are located two thousand south of me

[2:33:48] But they're applying for a single so they don't have to be

[2:34:06] They don't even qualify for what they have now.

[2:34:08] 200 south men.

[2:34:10] All right, say that again.

[2:34:12] So what I'm saying is that they are asking us for $10,000.

[2:34:17] However, kind of like Angel said earlier,

[2:34:19] it should be switched to half a piece in Florida.

[2:34:21] They only qualify.

[2:34:22] I mean, what they're asking for is a single bit.

[2:34:24] So the max they would be required for, I mean,

[2:34:26] apply for the brochures, 3,000 correct timing,

[2:34:29] and they can qualify for 10,000 the next time they apply.

[2:34:32] And they successfully do this a bit.

[2:34:34] So right now the motion is on the table and it was proposed that we give them

[2:34:38] $3,000 for this event and then somebody seconded it.

[2:34:43] So Anne I think you seconded it.

[2:34:45] And then you said in light that they give us a date.

[2:34:48] I think they did.

[2:34:50] Hey Alex, did you write down who seconded it?

[2:34:52] Yes.

[2:34:52] Okay, I heard you.

[2:34:54] I have a question that they call themselves the Downtown Gallery Museum of Art.

[2:34:58] Why don't we know about this space or something?

[2:35:00] Oh yeah, that's not in the flower shop.

[2:35:17] Okay, so there's a motion in the second. Any more discussion on it? Is it so? Yes.

[2:35:23] I

[2:35:25] Produe projects which they're thinking about it looks that things seem very inflated and they're talking about free sketched

[2:35:32] campuses and

[2:35:34] 200 people which seems low

[2:35:36] But it looks like they're putting on a big event

[2:35:41] And it's just the figures all seems cute to me. I guess I'm supporting the three thousand

[2:35:53] Well, I don't know. I've got the attitude about the pre-scash gun that's just for the record, just for the record. Sorry.

[2:36:00] Alright, so we have any more discussion? Any more discussion? So we have a motion, we have a second. Any more discussion? Alright, all in favor?

[2:36:12] Don't be pressured.

[2:36:14] I have a reservation sign.

[2:36:16] It's there.

[2:36:17] I quite sometimes get a look and see if I can do with it.

[2:36:20] Do the job.

[2:36:45] Rhythm of culture is a live performing arts event featuring music spoken word and cultural

[2:36:55] for Australia, Italian, led by Kailin Hayes,

[2:36:59] a rising voice in contemporary performance.

[2:37:02] This unique event will highlight the power of sound,

[2:37:05] rhythm, and identity while offering an inspiring experience

[2:37:08] that's open to the public at the Dunkinville Amateur.

[2:37:13] Total projected budget is $9,300.

[2:37:24] So because of the fact that they did not separate out

[2:37:28] because this was one of those

[2:37:30] that was not sent through the form,

[2:37:31] This was sent by email as this I went ahead deduced that what the request was was the

[2:37:37] $9,300 because there was no nothing that pulled that out or made a separate request for a dollar amount other than this

[2:37:44] This is a single event

[2:37:51] Is it is it comport with our funding policy is

[2:38:00] it hot

[2:38:06] What I like the most about some of these applications, and especially, I mean, even in this one, is

[2:38:13] this expression they're using, I love the fact that they're using music as the art,

[2:38:19] but they're also making certain that they're using local, like, the Dunkeville Amphitheater.

[2:38:23] I think it's good that it's free. I think it's great that it's in a public space.

[2:38:27] So that's what I like.

[2:38:28] So for the record, it's called a co-op.

[2:38:31] Well, I was going to say, hopefully the city council will make sure that they, and it's a big deal, and it is, it's named after police officers who were built in a lot of duty, but yeah, I want to make sure that they get the name right.

[2:38:47] Is there a motion?

[2:38:51] I make a motion recommending the City Council fund the rhythms of culture of celebration for music and voice project in the amount of 3,000.

[2:39:05] Is there a second?

[2:39:06] Second.

[2:39:06] Okay, there's a second.

[2:39:08] Tim, did we get any Instagram or anything from Caitlin Haynes?

[2:39:16] do you see artists that will be performing primarily?

[2:39:19] Do we have any idea what you're talking about?

[2:39:22] I did not dig in on her Instagram.

[2:39:26] Yeah, I was kind of curious on her following,

[2:39:28] but also to the other artists that

[2:39:31] are going to be part of this lineup,

[2:39:33] I'm just curious if they're local,

[2:39:35] or what kind of audience they'll be bringing in.

[2:39:38] Like, are they from other cities, or are they from a state?

[2:39:41] To join mecha-finding they met,

[2:39:42] requiring that they're local artists,

[2:39:44] or far away artists.

[2:39:46] So just remember a lot of people that we used have not been local, so just remember that.

[2:39:51] Yeah.

[2:39:52] Because if we required them to use local, then that means we need to use local art.

[2:39:55] Oh, yeah.

[2:39:55] No, I didn't think it was an issue.

[2:39:56] I was just wondering like if it was going to break the point, regardless of their local

[2:39:59] or not.

[2:40:00] Right.

[2:40:01] I don't have a preference for it.

[2:40:03] Okay.

[2:40:04] So we have a motion.

[2:40:05] We have a second.

[2:40:06] Is there any more discussion?

[2:40:09] Okay.

[2:40:09] All in favor.

[2:40:10] There's your hand.

[2:40:16] All opposed.

[2:40:22] Moving on.

[2:40:31] Rhythms of the Heartbeat Dance Experience. This is an annual arts program

[2:40:39] grant for non-profits. This event will feature various dance forms about health and wellness

[2:40:46] among our community members. Dance is an excellent means of cardiac engagement for

[2:40:51] ages, Pink Diamonds has a mission of providing health awareness and exercise events that

[2:40:57] are free and open to the public. A full detailed budget, 5,800 is the total budget, the amount

[2:41:04] requested is $3,000, and this is for, the grant category is for a annual arts grant

[2:41:16] but only asked for $3,000.

[2:41:29] And again, you know, our volunteers asked that we do a lot of education.

[2:41:34] I will say that this particular applicant had some challenges with the form,

[2:41:41] the form for whatever reason was a challenge on the day that she was applying

[2:41:46] and then she went through the extra effort of copy and pasting, putting it all into work

[2:41:51] So that could be part of the reason why the application submitted like this

[2:41:58] Discussion I really like this because it's a couple things

[2:42:02] One of the I think that is

[2:42:05] And I think it's also I love the fact that it's keeping to active in our community and it's also for good cause

[2:42:10] So I think it kind of ties in that community engagement with us also showing that we care about

[2:42:15] And I think that it's really would be a single

[2:42:19] event, even though it's an annual event that they have, there are any estimates for a single

[2:42:23] support for this one event that they had throughout the year, correct?

[2:42:27] So I do think it brings people from all over.

[2:42:30] I think there's over, there was like maybe 300 people that it sent in last year and I

[2:42:35] think when they first started off it was like 200.

[2:42:37] Okay, 200.

[2:42:39] So I know it was a couple of hundred versus like first couple of times I think it was

[2:42:43] like 10 or 20 or 30.

[2:42:44] So they've grown it and there's so many people from Dallas that come and put

[2:42:48] worth and stuff, so I think it makes us look really good and I think that incorporating the arts part

[2:42:55] as far as the dance and stuff, I think that's really good. Just like that, this is one of the ones

[2:43:00] that was, it shows that it's in a public space. I gave follow-up and she has reserved that space.

[2:43:07] That space is reserved and already committed. So let me ask the commission, is it eligible for

[2:43:13] public funding policy. Is it hot? Is there a motion? Discussion? I make a motion

[2:43:21] recommending the City Council fund the rhythm of the heartbeat dance experience

[2:43:25] in the amount of $3,000. Is there a second? Seconded. Any more discussion?

[2:43:32] you doing good in? Okay. All in favor?

[2:43:41] Okay. All opposed? I'm not opposed. I'm just abstaining only because I'm a member of the group.

[2:43:47] Oh.

[2:43:49] So, I'm abstaining.

[2:43:51] Are you going to answer?

[2:43:53] I'll be there.

[2:43:55] I'm just abstaining.

[2:43:57] Carry on.

[2:43:58] Yo, we got one more application in 9.02, y'all better do that. Let's go.

[2:44:03] Our last application for our first round of the game.

[2:44:05] No, it's happening. You're the one who needs to talk to us.

[2:44:09] No, nobody talks to other people too, Ron.

[2:44:13] That's actually about it.

[2:44:15] All right, hold up. One second.

[2:44:25] Well, I appreciate the same.

[2:44:36] Okay, Superfly Group, Superfly Studio is submitted as a single-project support group.

[2:44:47] Saw that reaction.

[2:44:52] Superfly is a hip-hop-based arts initiative that empowers youth and communities through

[2:44:57] for dance, creativity, and cultural experience.

[2:45:00] Rooted in authenticity and healing, it creates safe spaces for connection, growth, and celebration.

[2:45:06] The total project budget is $20,000, requested amount is $20,000.

[2:45:17] Oh, total project budget, I apologize, it is, and it is correct on my form, I typed it wrong there.

[2:45:25] But I did that probably close to the end of last night's meeting.

[2:45:36] Well, no, the total project budget is $20,000, but it's $15,000.

[2:45:48] All right, any discussion on this?

[2:45:52] Oh, wait a minute.

[2:45:54] She is absolutely right.

[2:45:54] There is two, she points out that there is 15,000 here.

[2:46:00] And the amount on the document for the budget shows requested amount $20,000.

[2:46:05] It's a single-project support grant, so that's $3,000 a minute.

[2:46:09] Thank you, Mr. Chair, thank you.

[2:46:10] And where is the old rail station?

[2:46:13] 202 West Side, right there.

[2:46:15] It's right across from the track.

[2:46:18] Right across from the Rice Church.

[2:46:20] The Rice Church, but over on the same street.

[2:46:43] We have a second, 15 second, okay, so is this compliant with our arts funding policy?

[2:46:49] I'm not sure. I feel like it's a commercial venture.

[2:46:53] I mean, they're doing performances maybe,

[2:46:57] but it looks like it's commercial.

[2:46:59] There is an admission fee of $10.

[2:47:02] Is that it?

[2:47:04] So what are the funding policies with tickets?

[2:47:08] We don't have any.

[2:47:12] And so businesses can apply.

[2:47:18] This is a range of dates, is there more than one event?

[2:47:22] I was right just now, remember?

[2:47:24] Lance has a question?

[2:47:25] Okay.

[2:47:26] He says there's a range of dates.

[2:47:28] So does that mean there's a multiple events?

[2:47:31] Are they asked really, do they fill out the ones?

[2:47:33] I mean, it's not.

[2:47:35] Is there an annual art program?

[2:47:48] That's why they're asking for the last workshop and events.

[2:47:55] You want to talk about this?

[2:47:57] Well, yeah, because we changed the others from annual to single because it was one event.

[2:48:03] but this is, or multiple, then it's just like a whole season from September 8th to December 20th.

[2:48:10] Why wouldn't we just change it to the annual arts program grant?

[2:48:14] I agree.

[2:48:15] This is not a series of presentations, it's classes.

[2:48:18] And the teaching and training, they may have to do it at the bottom one, but it doesn't.

[2:48:24] Yeah, it's not what they have to do.

[2:48:26] It's not, it's not an end.

[2:48:28] Yeah, I'm not going to look at it so they can't, they're going to think.

[2:48:31] What are they eligible for, just disabled?

[2:48:35] Because they're individual artists now, they're not private.

[2:48:38] Yes.

[2:48:39] OK.

[2:48:41] We're trying to help them a little bit.

[2:48:44] So we just think about it, an artist is

[2:48:51] able to afford a space.

[2:48:53] They have a space over there in their complex there.

[2:48:55] And they want to do art stuff there.

[2:48:58] And I guess that's a commission.

[2:48:59] We want to support that kind of stuff.

[2:49:05] We have a motion, do we have a second?

[2:49:08] All right, Tiffany's second.

[2:49:10] We have a motion and a second.

[2:49:12] All those in favor?

[2:49:12] Wait, any more discussion?

[2:49:13] Concerned?

[2:49:14] Do we just have a line item again?

[2:49:17] What are some of this so far?

[2:49:19] Are we good?

[2:49:21] We're more than good.

[2:49:22] Before this, you are at $39,185,

[2:49:25] based on my due and quip title.

[2:49:28] Okay, thank you.

[2:49:29] So we have a motion, we have a second. Any more discussion on this? All right, all in favor?

[2:49:35] All right.

[2:49:38] Wait, you know what? Take a picture.

[2:49:40] Any opposition?

[2:49:41] No.

[2:49:42] Are our hands up?

[2:49:43] Oh.

[2:49:43] What?

[2:49:44] No.

[2:49:46] Hold on.

[2:49:47] No, no, no. Any opposition?

[2:49:48] Oh.

[2:49:49] No, no, no.

[2:49:50] Oh.

[2:49:50] Oh, no.

[2:49:53] I was taking a picture. I'm all proud of us.

[2:49:55] Okay.

[2:49:57] Did you do against?

[2:49:59] do it again, because there were hands up when you said against, so.

[2:50:03] Okay.

[2:50:04] We were posing for a selfie.

[2:50:08] Okay, any against? Any opposition?

[2:50:13] Thank you.

[2:50:15] All right, ladies and gentlemen.

[2:50:17] I have a large commission.

[2:50:22] It's not a way.

[2:50:24] Business is a burn.

Jul 16, 2025 Arts Commission

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