[0:02] Derrick asked if I could call the meeting to order and then I'd like to

[0:06] move item 8A, election of officers to the top of the agenda if there's no

[0:11] objection. We should do that first thing. So,

[0:16] so I will at this time call for nomination for chairman or president of

[0:21] the fair board. Taking nominations from the floor.

[0:26] I nominate Derek Wolf for president of the Dun County Fair Board.

[0:30] » Derek Wolf has been nominated. Anybody? Are there any further nominations?

[0:36] Any further nominations? Any further nominations?

[0:41] If not, I'll ask for a motion to close nominations and cast a unanimous ballot

[0:46] for Derek Wolf. >> Make a motion to close the nominations.

[0:48] » We have a motion by Larry. Is there a second?

[0:52] » Second by Troy. All those in favor signify by saying I.

[0:56] » Opposed. You're on, Derek.

[1:00] » You should just keep taking over. That was really good.

[1:05] All right. Now, we're going to go to the vice president. Um, any nominations for

[1:11] the vice president?

[1:20] Scott Byer. Oh, I don't know why it's doing that.

[1:26] Scott, do you accept? Okay. Any other nominations?

[1:32] Any other nominations? Nominations.

[1:37] Okay.

[1:41] There a second. Okay. I think

[1:46] » I'll second. >> Okay. Scott, you're the

[1:49] » Have to vote. >> Oh, sorry. vote. Sec. I got a All in

[1:54] favor say I. Post. Okay, Scott. I jumped the gun.

[2:00] » All right. Thank you. >> All right. And let's see here. We got to

[2:05] go to um secretary. >> I'll nominate Austin Witz.

[2:13] Okay. Um any other nominations?

[2:17] Any other nominations?

[2:21] their nominations. Austin, you accept? Yeah,

[2:27] » I already forgot what I'm supposed to say after that. So,

[2:31] I'll make a motion to close nomination cast for Austin for secretary.

[2:39] » Second it. >> Okay. All in favor?

[2:43] » Post. Okay. Austin Wit, your secretary. Congratulations.

[2:49] All right. All right. Then um now we have to uh do uh our 20 26

[2:57] um um chairs are up. So uh with that being

[3:02] said, um we have Jeff Eert um and Nick Shepard's terms ending. So um we're

[3:09] going to start with uh Jeff. I'm um not sure how this works just cuz we're Do we

[3:15] have to do it the same way being that it's a term thing, Dave? Or do you know?

[3:19] » Um I think that I think our board nominates them and then they're approved

[3:24] by the county. Does that >> Yeah, that's how it works. Anybody that

[3:28] wants to nominate um Jeff Eert. >> I'll nominate Jeff.

[3:35] » Jeff, you accept? Um, I suppose I better ask if there's

[3:39] any other nominations, but there shouldn't be being that we're reelecting

[3:42] them.

[3:46] Okay, that clo is closed. Jeff Eert, you accept.

[3:52] Okay. Um, all in favor Jeff coming to the board say I.

[3:57] » I. >> Opposed. Okay. Jeff passes. Okay.

[4:02] Nick um he wanted to let me know that uh he um is up tonight, but he wanted to

[4:09] talk for a little bit just to let you guys know that he uh um depending on

[4:14] what happens here, he wants to be committed to this committee after the

[4:17] football and wrestling season. and he was happy to be on um the music

[4:23] committee that we had with the sending out the emails uh and stuff like that

[4:28] and and being a part of the fair. Um with that being said, he said whatever

[4:34] happens happens. So I'll bring him up for election and we'll go from there. So

[4:39] um so I guess um anybody want to nominate Nick or somebody else?

[4:47] » I'll nominate Nick Shepard.

[4:51] Um is there any other nominations? Any other

[5:00] there are nominations? Okay.

[5:02] » I move to close nominations, cast unanimous ballot for Nick Shepard.

[5:07] » Thank you. Second. Okay. All in favor say I. Oppose. Okay. Nick is on for

[5:14] another two years along with Jeff Eert. Okay. And

[5:20] » to the county board for approval. >> For approval. Yep.

[5:24] » Okay. Um Okay. Now we can go to We got call the roll. Um Austin's taking care

[5:31] of that now. Uh approval of the previous meeting minutes. Going to get approval

[5:37] for that.

[5:41] Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second.

[5:43] » Ben second. Uh, all in favor say I.

[5:49] » Oppos. Okay. Okay. Is there any public comment?

[5:58] » Nothing. >> Nothing. No public comment tonight. Uh,

[6:02] public hearings. None. Okay. We're going to go to the

[6:07] staff reports and fair updates. Um, Michael, um, just how how we coming on

[6:14] the, uh, Facebook and is there anything that we should be adding to that in the

[6:19] upcoming months, keep people interested? >> I don't really have anything to report

[6:23] for the Facebook page. Um, obviously with the fair being done, kind of the um

[6:30] the amount of people that interact with her page obviously decreases, but I

[6:35] think just sharing information about next year's event and even just kind of

[6:40] a lot of people like throwback pictures. So, just stuff to keep people engaged

[6:44] with our page, but that's kind of an ongoing

[6:48] uh thing to do. >> Okay. So, if Larry had sent it, it's one

[6:51] of his 1960 throwback showing cattle, that might be

[6:56] something that you would throw on there. >> So, Larry, if you wouldn't mind uh

[7:00] sending us a picture of that, that would be great.

[7:05] Okay. You send them to one of our emails here. Okay. All right. Um,

[7:10] » one of these days, uh, if we could get the tractor show winners up there, too,

[7:15] with a little blurb on them. Jeff's got the pictures. he sent them to to me as

[7:20] well. Uh but uh that was a great turnout and I I think the group loved it. But

[7:25] that's one thing we never ended up posting just with everything else we all

[7:29] had going on. So one of the throwbacks we could do with that too.

[7:33] » Any other suggestions or what um Facebook?

[7:40] Um I guess uh Michael continuing recapping the year,

[7:46] you know, the stuff that happened and because we had I think we had a great

[7:50] fair and so just to keep reminding people.

[7:56] Anything else? Anybody else like to add? Okay, we'll move on to uh facilities and

[8:03] parks, Austin and Brady. Um

[8:10] it's I it's been such a whirlwind. I don't remember what all we touched on or

[8:14] didn't touch on on the facility side, but uh last meeting, but

[8:21] um we had no power issues. I don't think there's a ton of wrap-up

[8:27] items on the facility side. The biggest thing is I think we were all so burnt

[8:31] out from the fair that after Sunday uh it we

[8:38] there was nobody there including myself um that kind of the the next week

[8:46] uh we didn't have really a good plan of who was doing what uh etc. kind of like

[8:52] we did for setup. So, um I think that's something that we

[8:58] can work on either, you know, delegating uh or coming up with a better plan

[9:04] versus um this last year on just putting away stuff, etc. But, um I think all in

[9:12] all it went pretty well. Uh one thing we didn't touch on was

[9:16] custodial. I think that turned out pretty well for even just having Mike

[9:20] there the days he was there. Um, we definitely maxed out that 7,000

[9:25] allocation. Um, but I don't think it was terribly

[9:30] more than that that we ate on the facility side, but I think it turned out

[9:37] really well. >> How was the custo? I mean, and I knew

[9:41] that was kind of a talking point and what did what was Mike seeing in there?

[9:46] something that we need to have for obviously for next year. But was there

[9:50] any main problems with that or how did he say it was how it went?

[9:54] » No, from everything I've heard everything went really well and

[9:59] I think having all those outdoor port johns helped and he said it really

[10:06] wasn't that dirty in those uh restrooms. So

[10:10] » yeah. Yep. radio sessions. Pretty nervous ahead of time based on how much

[10:15] manpower we had there last year with that other company and stuff, but

[10:20] » turned out very well. >> What did the county employees think

[10:25] about having like the picnic or their daily thing there? I was curious on

[10:29] that. >> We did touch on that too. Um,

[10:33] extremely well. Uh, there's a countywide email that came out. Every Friday we get

[10:37] a county email update and um there were five

[10:45] there's close to uh 254 employees and around 600 total guests from the county

[10:51] side with family members and stuff. So that was huge. there was about

[10:58] uh a $2,000 check going to the 4 stand and then the remaining 2500 or so is

[11:05] coming to the gate to total that 4500. Um

[11:11] uh so I don't think it could have went better and I don't think you could ever

[11:16] give a county employee picnic entertainment or anything for what we

[11:20] did for that fair. So I think it'll just grow and continue from there. I I think

[11:26] in future years we don't do just a one voucher employee and then the rest of

[11:31] the group gets in. I think they should RSCP with how many people are coming and

[11:35] then as department heads done county gives out individual tickets. That way

[11:40] it's just done. It's not a I vouch for these people that are in my car kind of

[11:45] thing. They'll be a lot easier to track to in the future.

[11:51] Is that good? Yeah. I no complaints there just on how we tracked it. I think

[11:57] I could have a few. >> Yeah, I think it'd be awesome if the

[12:01] county would want to do that every year. It's kind of brings everything full

[12:05] circle. >> Dave, just to add to that, Austin, the

[12:10] email that went out to the county was an employee had wrote in a letter to Dan

[12:16] and he shared it with everybody. He said this employee put it better than he

[12:20] could and talked about what an incredible experience it was and was the

[12:24] best gift that he had ever gotten or the family had ever gotten um from the

[12:29] county in 15 or 20 years whatever that they'd worked for the county and how

[12:33] much they appreciated that and so it was uh very wellreceived it seemed like. So,

[12:38] » and in that email, it it uh said uh props to Derek and the fair board for

[12:45] the hard work and there was more people there on Thursday night, he said, than

[12:50] past years in total, he thought. So, bit of an exaggeration, but still it just

[12:56] shows that um it was a nice uh write up.

[13:03] » Anybody else got anything for Austin? Uh Brady, sorry.

[13:07] » Just just an update on the fan. Um, right now I'm kind of waiting to

[13:16] We had someone come in and look at it and and they were in contact with the

[13:21] gas fans and they did say that apparently there was

[13:27] from a horrible inspection from what I thought. Um, they were saying that the

[13:32] motor was damaged and they wanted like almost $9,000 to fix it. I don't believe

[13:39] that's a situation. They're sending out a new fan blade right now so that we can

[13:44] put it in. They told me what to look for once we install it and we'll just kind

[13:49] of make a determination once that uh fan blade comes in and we

[13:54] fix it. So, >> okay, Lar Larry, did you have something

[13:57] to add to that? >> Well, something for Austin that we

[14:01] discussed at the uh fair board meeting as far as county employees and

[14:05] everything. Uh, Dun County did gain an employee because of the fair this year.

[14:11] And Jim Peterson, the judge, is my brother-in-law and he was out to the

[14:14] farm and and uh they've been searching for an assistant district attorney

[14:20] and have not been able to fill the position.

[14:24] Well, the physician has been filled with a young woman that came to the fair and

[14:30] she had been looking at Oaklair County and she looked at Chip Oak or Dun County

[14:35] and the experience that she, this is from the judge, the experience that she

[14:40] had at the Dun County Fair. She made application and was hired uh assisting

[14:46] district attorney. So, it's like, you know, you couldn't make that story up,

[14:52] » you know. So, >> she puts that under

[14:55] » it's it's really

[14:59] » um Thank you for sharing that. Ray, go back

[15:04] on to that. You were saying about the fan that the motor might be damaged, but

[15:08] they have to do more inspection. That's what I'm understanding out of that.

[15:11] » Well, he basically said that he suspects from the pictures. They only took like

[15:16] six pictures and sent them to big ass fans.

[15:18] » Mhm. Based on the pictures that they got, they said it looks like it's bent.

[15:24] It, to my knowledge, it doesn't look bent, but once we install the the new

[15:30] fan blade, we'll know for sure if it's bent or not, and then uh kind of make a

[15:34] determination from there. Uh I didn't see the need to

[15:40] do a $9,000 motor replacement if it's not damaged. And everything that I'm

[15:48] seeing, it doesn't look damaged to me, but I

[15:53] » So, so they're allowing us to put on the blade and then inspect it after that. Is

[16:00] » correct. Okay. >> Yes.

[16:02] » Dave, did you >> I just had a question for Austin. With

[16:05] all the work that was done on the electrical,

[16:07] are are we pretty much set for next year then with the Yeah. With that system?

[16:12] » Yep. Um,

[16:16] I all the extra cords are made. Nothing

[16:22] nothing that I could think of. Zero issues.

[16:26] Everything's Every pedestal's replaced. Only thing that I'd like to do is pop

[16:33] that baby pavilion.

[16:37] » Oh, yeah. >> And put it directly in line. So, it's a

[16:39] front of house booth that's permanent. that faces the stage and um could still

[16:44] be used for everything else just is in a more

[16:47] desired spot. Um

[16:51] that answers your question. Yep. Um >> are you guys still looking at maybe

[16:56] running a water line under the ground though? That's one. Okay.

[16:59] » Yep. That's something that'll we'll work on next spring is just burying it, you

[17:06] know, six, eight inches below ground and we'll blow it out every year.

[17:11] back to his comments on the fan motor and stuff.

[17:17] We're doing this to be proactive to help GFL out cuz they're the ones that hit

[17:22] this. >> Yeah,

[17:23] » we're being proactive about it. But the further we get away from like with our

[17:28] fixes and stuff, the more afraid I get of

[17:32] of them fully replacing it if later down the line it does need a full motor. And

[17:38] then when we fix this stuff ourselves, then it voids the warranty.

[17:45] » But we're So just a heads up, trying to be

[17:49] proactive about this to help a vendor out. But

[17:54] the only thing that scares me is further away we get from just them

[17:59] filing a insurance claim and fixing it outright is scary a little bit with how

[18:05] those cost. Troy

[18:09] » Brady on the water line going out. Do you know is that going to be like a one

[18:12] inch line and how far? >> I don't remember if it's 3/4 or one

[18:18] inch, but we'll keep the same size line that we've got now. And then we just we

[18:23] we might make a T going off towards uh the back side of the um back side of

[18:32] building. Is that something that the like the fair board pays for or how

[18:36] » how is that >> is that part of the county

[18:39] » or is that county? >> I would assume

[18:44] that the county would probably just do it. I don't think it'll take us that

[18:48] long to bury it and it's that much less that we'd have to do for setup and tear

[18:53] down every year >> other than just blowing it out and

[18:56] that's not a huge deal for that. Let me know if the if it's not a county deal on

[19:02] the tubing. >> Yep. Oh,

[19:06] » hey. Anything else? Brady or Austin want to touch? Um,

[19:11] » wouldn't really know the best spot on this, but uh we um I emailed Country Jam

[19:19] on potential acts that are touring that weekend before and uh we have a meeting

[19:25] set up with them in the in the coming weeks to see what's what's able to be

[19:30] done or or bring in someone that's already in the area.

[19:34] » That's a good idea. uh because you can get considerably cheaper if they're

[19:39] performing on a Saturday night and they come half hour away on Wednesday or

[19:43] Thursday. So, more to come on that.

[19:49] Um okay, anything else? Any questions? Okay,

[19:55] thank you. Um, uh, Zach Ramirez is not with us tonight, but, uh, he asked me to

[20:03] share there's, uh, Compier Financial, um, grant that opens for, uh, county

[20:10] fairground improvement grant provides up to $7,500

[20:15] that helps, uh, renovate and update or improve our agricultural buildings, our

[20:20] facilities fund. Um and also support of new construction if if that's something

[20:27] that we want to um go uh do. Um they are

[20:35] October. So September 1st and then it closes I don't know why this is there it

[20:40] is. That's the other one. September 1st through October 15th and then next one

[20:45] is December 15th through the February 15th. Anybody like to comment on that,

[20:52] Troy? Uh, sorry, Ben. >> I think it'd be an awesome if if he can

[20:57] send an application in or we got to send one in.

[20:59] » Uh, we we'll have to probably do it by the looks of it.

[21:02] » I think it'd be a great idea if we could send an application in.

[21:06] » Dave, >> I agree. I think

[21:09] 100%. >> And if it's something that whoever on

[21:12] the fair board, I know Josh Kudson is doing it for MAP. So like whoever if

[21:19] need any insight or on filling it out or maybe I could talk to Josh too.

[21:24] » Otherwise I can also talk to my wife. She works with copier too. So

[21:27] » I'll write one up and we'll send it to her. How's that? So

[21:29] » that works. >> And then we'll have her proof read it if

[21:32] that's all right with you guys. You want me to share it with the committee or

[21:40] » Okay. All right. So that's what Zach Ramirez has done and uh so that that is

[21:46] uh on head. >> I do have one more thing for Zach

[21:49] department. >> Y

[21:50] » and I just wanted to mention it while we were on live here that the junior uh

[21:56] dairy judging team won state. >> Uh

[22:00] first time ever, right, Ben? Ben's one of the coach.

[22:03] » First time ever in Dun County judging history, the junior team won state. Our

[22:08] seniors team has won, but never the juniors. So, our juniors won.

[22:12] » So, nice job, Ben. Ben Powers, Jim Powers, and my son Ben Styer were the

[22:16] coaches this year. So, they did a amazing job with the kids. So,

[22:20] » very awesome.

[22:24] Any other comments for Zack Ramirez? Okay. Um, Troy, you got any map items

[22:31] for this? Uh, just map wise, I know I missed last month, but this year the

[22:35] sale was a record sale. uh highest sell or highest dollar amount ever. Uh we had

[22:42] a MAP meeting here probably two three weeks ago and we talked about uh using

[22:48] some of the money. We're going to try to get some grant money also to buy more

[22:51] pens so we don't have to go to northern Wisconsin

[22:54] uh to borrow their pens. So that's kind of the conversation that we had on our

[23:01] end. I had a call today, a complaint, and

[23:06] someone, they weren't really complaining, but they were asking, "Why

[23:09] does it take so long to get the fair checks, the um animal checks?" And I

[23:14] didn't really have a good answer. So, I just wanted I told him I had this

[23:18] meeting today and I get back to him as to why it takes as long as it does.

[23:22] » We send out all the checks as soon as we receive enough money to send out to the

[23:26] kids. >> You're talking?

[23:28] » Yeah. Map. >> Yeah.

[23:30] » Yep. So basically after we get not everybody has to pay but as soon as we

[23:35] get the dollar amount in that we can send the money out to the kids. So

[23:40] that's basically why it takes >> covers the check.

[23:43] » Yeah. That cover the checks for the kids.

[23:45] » I wasn't quite sure. >> Yep. That's that's the only reason

[23:53] » Go ahead. with with that MA money from previous years

[23:58] and that account that got transferred over etc. Have you

[24:02] » received that? >> I from D County.

[24:06] » I think so. I'd have to ask Paul. I think there was like 7,000 of that

[24:11] number >> something like that.

[24:12] » I'm not 100% but I want to say it was around 7,000. And then with what the 1%

[24:18] we made with the fair, you know, we get to keep it now, but that all goes for,

[24:23] you know, upgrades and stuff like that. So, we we're getting quotes on the new

[24:28] pens. And then they still wanted a little bit better ventilation in the

[24:32] sheet barn, but I told them that the biggest problem is the electrical in

[24:36] there to handle too many more fans, you know. So,

[24:42] and I asked them, I go, "Were the fans this year not good enough?" and they

[24:45] said, "No, it was great, but it wasn't hot." So, it's kind I I go, "Well, it's

[24:49] not I don't know. I wasn't over there a whole lot, but I'm like, we got an

[24:53] electrical issue, right?" You know, if we put too many more fans in big fans.

[24:58] » Also, that exhaust fan wasn't turned down until Saturday afternoon by me. So,

[25:03] » that probably really kicked it in high gear. Yeah. But

[25:07] » no, they they were appreciative of the fans that were put in there this year,

[25:12] you know, but I think they're still just worried on what it'd be like really hot.

[25:17] But I think our main thing is is more pens for sheep, goats, and pigs.

[25:26] » Any other thing? Oh, okay. >> I just want to commend the map committee

[25:30] and the entire auction at the fair. I don't know if people realize how good of

[25:36] an auction Dun County has. We I traveled to several different fairs this year and

[25:41] auctions and that and and I've told the league guys as well. I made it very

[25:45] clear to them how good a job they do running the auction. But this is hands

[25:49] down the best auction around just the way they handle it with the biders, the

[25:53] the name cards and um everything that they do. It's very wellrun. Recognizing

[25:59] the seniors, you don't see that at a lot of them. The sale of champions, those

[26:03] kind of things. A lot of people don't. The auctions don't do that. So, um, just

[26:08] commend the map committee and what you guys have done. So, keep it up.

[26:12] Thanks. Anybody else got anything for Troy? No. Thanks, Troy. All right. Uh,

[26:19] we're going to um go items placed on the request of the chair. Uh there is an

[26:25] item that is placed. Um and I'm gonna I'm gonna turn it over to Larry if Larry

[26:30] don't mind. Or you want I'd rather you talk about it, but if you want me to, I

[26:34] can. >> Oh, I can talk about it.

[26:35] » Okay. Okay.

[26:39] » I can talk. >> Thank God.

[26:42] » Well, and then thank you for your

[26:45] consideration.

[26:49] Um, in the run-up to the fair, we were all

[26:52] really excited about uh uh the mural that was done on the north building. And

[27:00] uh at the time they had not put the uh where the small animals and sheep or

[27:06] said small animals I think up there. You know, there was a cover that went on

[27:10] that and the other part was was pretty bad shape. So, I took it upon myself to

[27:16] find out uh if we could get uh two signs made for

[27:22] the front. One that says sheep and goats, sorry, sheep and goats, and one

[27:27] that says small animals. And uh the guy assured me that he could, but being the

[27:33] excitement of the fair and being uh Larry Bork, I says, "Let's just get her

[27:37] done." And uh I told him, "If I have if we have to, I'll pay for it." And uh so

[27:45] I was expecting it to cost a,000 or $500, but the bill came in at $1,000

[27:52] plus uh uh sales tax of u $55.

[27:59] So I had written out a check. I thought, geez, you know, maybe there's

[28:05] a way uh fair could fair board could be part of this and I could uh you know, uh

[28:14] pay half of it or uh if the fair board paid the whole thing and I could make a

[28:20] contribution to the fair. Uh I can go either way with it. You know, it ain't

[28:24] the $1,000 grows on trees, but if I do shake the old pants hard enough, enough

[28:31] will fall out. So I got a bill uh for,55 for 3x8 33 mm sign panel with painted

[28:42] background and threecolor hand painted design to match mural lettering and

[28:47] colors uh small animals and she goats includes hardware to mount and he was

[28:53] really slow in getting it back to us. So, we never really had a chance to get

[28:57] it up there because if you take off those other signs, you got different

[29:00] colored wall. So, they're someplace over there. And uh uh if the fair board would

[29:07] want to pay for half of them, that'd be great. Or if they don't want to pay for

[29:11] anything, that's fine, too. But uh and then I could or if they paid the whole

[29:17] thing, then I could I'd contribute $500 to the fair.

[29:22] So, is that about the way to describe it? That's perfect, Larry. I like it.

[29:26] Um, >> I got It have been easier, but the pants

[29:29] got holes in their pockets and walk around the farm. Where'd that come from?

[29:34] You know, >> and you're pulling out wads of 100. I

[29:36] get it. So, um, two by you're asking for just so we're understanding what you're

[29:44] asking for is that we pay for half of it,

[29:47] » right? and I and I I'll have to pay the other half or if you pay the whole

[29:51] thing, >> then I'll pay $500 to the uh fair board.

[29:57] » Okay. >> And then what

[29:59] » we uh that's >> if I can interject

[30:02] » if if if Wade can reinvoice that to the county.

[30:06] » Yeah. >> We can send in our S211

[30:10] sales tax exemption. >> Okay. Well, I think that's what we

[30:12] should if that's what you'd like to do. $55 is

[30:16] » Yep. Yeah. So, uh, we have to get a what? Uh, disc, um,

[30:24] » motion. Sorry, I was trying to think what I wanted to say. Then we can have

[30:27] discuss. >> I'd like to make a motion to have it

[30:30] rebuild under the fair or under the D county fair board for so it can be taxes

[30:36] on for the full amount of the signs. >> Right.

[30:39] » Is there a second? >> Second.

[30:41] » Okay. Discussion about it. Austin, just what you're saying is about that.

[30:47] Anybody else? Dave, >> those are the signs they got done for

[30:51] the fair. They were just hung up on the front of the Those are the signs we're

[30:55] talking about. Same colors as >> as the mural on the side.

[30:59] » We just didn't have time. >> They're aluminum.

[31:03] » Mhm. >> Yeah. So, they got there, but they

[31:05] didn't get put up. And it would it did the right thing by

[31:10] » Dave. So you're you're going to reinvoice it. So then is that then the

[31:15] fair board's going to pay for it? Is that what you're the intent is?

[31:18] » Okay. >> I'll pay the fair board

[31:21] » contribution for next year's. >> So that but that's the motion. So you're

[31:27] the motion is is that you're we're going to reinvoice it for,58.

[31:32] You're going to pay the $500. That's the motion that's out there in

[31:36] the discussion. >> Re rebuild for a,000 because it was

[31:40] So it be rebuilt. >> I'll make it. That's That's the motion I

[31:45] made. Sorry. I'm just trying to make sure we all understood it. Okay.

[31:51] » Everybody got that? Discussion?

[31:56] Any more conversation? Motion's out there. Um so all in favor I

[32:04] » I >> oppose.

[32:06] Okay, Larry, that passed. Thank you.

[32:12] Okay. Um All right. We're going to move into 8B,

[32:16] uh the food vendor contracts. Um so I had went over them. Um we're going to

[32:24] get it up pulled up here and hopefully be able to show you the changes. And um

[32:30] again, these are numbers that are put in there. I'm not saying it has to be. I'm

[32:35] I maybe shouldn't even put a number in, but these are the

[32:40] We're getting there. >> Okay, so as you can see, the food vendor

[32:48] space fee is now $600, right? Put your mouse there. On a

[32:54] regular payment due by July 10th, it after that, it was $650.

[33:01] Um, and that's that's the new writing that we want to apply is the

[33:06] applications are due by 4 pm the first Monday in April. So, by doing that, it

[33:11] allows us to have that before our meeting. The fair board will review the

[33:15] applications at the meeting and announce selections by the by the Friday

[33:20] following. Payments are due by the first Monday in May. again on a fair board

[33:24] night. Um the fair board reserves the right to

[33:29] assign all vendors booth locations while we consider past play placements

[33:35] and special request. Final spot assign assignments are at the board's sole

[33:40] discretion and are non-negotiable. So those who are already in we we added

[33:47] that top piece. Okay. So the fee the fee includes your spot electricity and two

[33:54] weekly admission passes. So um each additional pass may be purchased for

[34:00] $20. Now again that it should be 15 for right

[34:06] now. Sorry about that. So 15 um and then as you see we got uh the full payment

[34:13] online that that kind of stuff

[34:18] » is the down payment. uh the down and this is why I brought it

[34:22] up for us to discuss. But these are the changes that are made uh that we uh off

[34:28] of uh um um what am I trying to say off of our previous um vendors that they

[34:34] wanted. We we applied that to what they wanted and this is what we we came up

[34:39] with. Now the only thing that is changed really well there's a lot of things

[34:43] changed but the biggest thing that are changed is the date and the amount.

[34:48] Otherwise, the rest of it was just getting, how do you say, uh, more

[34:53] technical, uh, the right words. Um, and so that's what we did. So, um, so I

[35:01] guess we need to kind of talk about it uh, with a $1,000 and uh, if the times

[35:07] » can we make it so that it's, you know, payments are due on the first Monday in

[35:11] May. So that's would be the on our fairboard date that that they're made by

[35:16] 4:00, >> right? So that there's a cut. So that

[35:18] way we would know on that fairboard meeting who's paid

[35:28] » for by the first Monday.

[35:33] Okay. Um

[35:37] so okay, thanks. Yeah, good good good catch.

[35:42] Troy, >> how much is like the Are you asking for

[35:45] the full thousand by then? >> Down bank,

[35:48] » right? No, the uh right now we have the full thousand because that's what was

[35:52] placed when they sent in I forget who was but they sent when they sent in what

[35:57] they wanted they said that we need the money. This is how normal fairs operate.

[36:02] You get the money and then you move on that way if they don't come. So, I know

[36:07] the biggest thing that they the couple of them that I know that they talk about

[36:12] is like early in the spring like that and just to know where they sit is that

[36:17] most of them are like 20 to $30,000 in the hole by paying all the, you know,

[36:22] paying all this ahead and have no income, you know, cuz nothing started.

[36:26] So, like by asking it a little, you know, earlier, which it's better for us,

[36:31] right? But I just make sure that we're think you know some I'm not saying it's

[36:36] wrong but just make sure that we're thinking we're asking them to put money

[36:40] out what at least a month or two earlier >> than normal but it is what it is. But I

[36:47] guess I just wanted to know that like I never knew that they have that much

[36:50] money tied up in their events you know for the year to

[36:55] » do. So it go I guess go ahead. My thought it my thought process is the

[37:00] money doesn't affect us but the signed contract cut off affects us.

[37:07] You know what I mean? Having knowing whether it be a down payment or

[37:11] something by April etc. But the signed contract is

[37:16] what or something legal legally binding that

[37:21] just knows that they're a part of it. But long as our thing is within that

[37:26] year, we're sitting fine versus a private organization, I guess you

[37:32] could say. But um and the other half of this is putting

[37:38] in this uh application that says there'll be a maximum

[37:43] of nine food vendors or 10 food vendors. So they have a little bit of peace of

[37:47] mind there to see that there's value in that extra cost upfront, but knowing

[37:53] that there'll be less food vendors than this year regardless with most of them

[37:57] selling out, etc. It's just one more thing to show that uh okay, we're up on

[38:03] the ante here, but also you're going to have more traffic.

[38:08] And I guess my thoughts would just be if we can I think you got to get some money

[38:12] from them, you know, like even if it was half down, you know, when they had their

[38:18] written contract by this time and then paid the rest by

[38:22] » I would agree that it keeps them from backing out.

[38:26] » We we were going off of the request of some of these food vendors. Myself, Kim,

[38:34] uh uh uh Hamarge had seen that. These are the requests that they brought to

[38:39] us. That's why they're up in here. That's why I was trying to explain

[38:42] earlier. I'm not the one that just made this up. This is what they're telling us

[38:46] is normal for other places to go. I'm not saying it's wrong or right. You guys

[38:50] make that decision. >> Personally, I like the idea of saying,

[38:54] "Okay, it's all paid in full upfront." That way, if they, you know, if they pay

[38:58] half, well, if they don't show up, we only get half the money. That way, and

[39:01] we've already reserved their spot. That way if they pay and they don't show up,

[39:05] we still get the same amount of money and we're not scrambling to find

[39:09] somebody. I'm assuming if you go to Country Jam, Country Fest, any of the

[39:13] big you're paying up front. Um, you know, even like

[39:18] most places you pay before you leave that year, you left this year, they've

[39:24] already paid for their, >> right? You know, even like just, you

[39:28] know, like at the farmers market, something a little different, but they

[39:32] pay in January for the summer. Like you always pay ahead for your spots. And

[39:37] it's just And it's another little thing is I know we have the county and we

[39:42] they're paying our bills, but it also allows us to bring in money in May, so

[39:46] we can kind of work towards having our own bucket of money that we're working

[39:52] off of. So it's not the county's bucket of money that we're working off of. you

[39:56] know, just in case something does happen in the future, we set these precedents

[40:00] now that we're trying to work on our own a little bit more for them.

[40:06] » Dave, did you have something to add? >> Just to go off what Austin said about

[40:09] the signed contracts. So, is their application their signed contract or

[40:13] once they're accepted by the fair board, do they have a signed contract? How is

[40:18] that handled?

[40:22] This would just be it as of now, but we could easily make something up to go

[40:26] with this. It's a lot. Okay, let's continue on that. They were submitting

[40:32] this to us, but then it was going to the fair board to accept it. Some of these

[40:37] were filled out. Some of these were filled out with a check mailed in with

[40:40] them. I think that process could be short up a little bit, too. But I think

[40:46] if they're accepted, a more beefy contract could easily go go with this

[40:51] that Jim or or council can make up pretty quickly.

[40:57] Or if you had a signed contract from them, you know, with their application

[41:01] fee and they were accepted by the fair board, you could just have in there that

[41:05] that constitute a valid contract and you're done, you know, that way. So you

[41:09] got it locked in.

[41:14] These are all still pennies on the dollar versus some of these festivals.

[41:18] So, if they ask for this upfront, it's still I think the cost 15 years ago to

[41:23] be a vendor at Country Fest for food was $4,500.

[41:26] Obviously, it's a little bit different for traffic and stuff like that, but

[41:30] still. >> And like I said, that price is just I

[41:34] should have just put a zero, but that's I

[41:38] » I agree with the price. >> Are we voting on the price, too? Uh,

[41:41] it's underneath an action item. So, I would like to

[41:43] » Yeah. No, and I guess the only thing the only reason I brought it up is cuz I

[41:47] know what some of the guys, you know, say that they wait until the very end

[41:52] because, you know, winter time, you know, they

[41:56] had winner. Well, they can and they had winter, but I just I don't at the end of

[42:00] the day I it don't matter to me. I I think uh going forward uh that we done

[42:08] this this year and hopefully we up it again next year with our foot traffic. I

[42:12] think now we're kind of the place where they want to come in. So I mean this is

[42:17] maybe why we got this comment to us uh to three different four sorry four

[42:23] different people that got this comment to do something like that with that

[42:28] letter. So then >> I mean even coming say put yourself in

[42:33] their shoes if they put the $1,000 they know that they got money going towards

[42:37] it versus just a contract then they know that they're locked in. You know it's

[42:41] kind of a piece of mind for them too if they have money up front on the table

[42:44] then they know that they're going there. Um just I I think that they're more apt

[42:48] to be more comfortable knowing that they've already committed with a check.

[42:54] Are the dates are the dates you guys are fine with the as far as the the April

[42:59] and uh cuz honestly I wanted to do one earlier but we did April and May so um

[43:07] » I'm fine with that. >> Do you Brady? Yeah, I you ask.

[43:14] » Well, my question is, do some of these vendors want to know before the

[43:17] beginning of May that for their summertime schedule? If you know they're

[43:23] put in the application, it doesn't guarantee that they're getting the spot.

[43:28] Some of these vendors might want to know more in advance, like in February or

[43:33] March whether or not they're doing an event.

[43:37] » Yeah. And that's one of the things that why I brought it up because she did

[43:42] request that that uh you did it the first in March and then in April. So it

[43:47] would be March and April. But I was reading other contracts. This is what

[43:52] they had. I'm not saying we can't do that. That's what you know I'm asking is

[43:57] what you guys want to do. Those are the two dates that we're throwing in there.

[44:00] But the other food vendor that we had actually wanted it back a month on each

[44:05] of them. Well, we can that's that is a due date, but it doesn't say that we

[44:09] can't send them out. >> They can put their application in and we

[44:12] can approve them and say they're in. They can pay ahead of time, but it's

[44:15] just due on >> Yeah, we can send this out next month.

[44:19] » Yeah, that that's just the due date. We can send these contracts out whenever we

[44:24] get it figured out, right? And then when they send it back.

[44:27] » Yeah. Mark, did you have something? >> I just had a question. Is there any

[44:30] clause in there? What if there's an unforeseen circumstance, a heart attack

[44:35] or illness or something where they can't make it? Are they out that $1,000 or is

[44:40] there any statement on a refund? >> Oh, we never had one. I just

[44:43] » I just was thinking, you know, vendors >> I would think that would come to the

[44:48] board and then we would decide as a board if we reimburse versus putting it

[44:52] in a clause on exception. We would I in my opinion we would vote on it

[44:56] afterwards if they put a letter in.

[45:03] Austin, >> I would just I'd edit that first line a

[45:07] little bit and just say we're continuing or applications are due by 4 p.m. the

[45:13] first Monday. Um, but after this is set up to me, there's no reason why we

[45:17] couldn't accept or start reviewing them whenever they're turned in. The verbiage

[45:21] right there says all that are turned in will be reviewed at the same time.

[45:27] » Say first come, first serve. >> Yeah. No, see see because what happens I

[45:31] do like that idea to say okay then in that whether it be April or whenever

[45:35] meeting that is the day that we're doing all the food vendors like we get all our

[45:41] applications at one time so that way we're not one in January one in February

[45:45] then we're like oh shoot we approved this person but now this person that we

[45:49] really wanted the same food now we have that way we have them all here one time

[45:54] and we're done >> you're not favoring anybody going this

[45:56] way it's all here it's all If you have something for

[45:59] » I guess to me if we're going to do it that way, I'd almost go back to your

[46:03] original thought and maybe move everything up one more month.

[46:06] » So go from March and April. >> Yeah. I mean then I I like Brady's point

[46:11] there about people want clarity going into the summer and by the time May

[46:15] rolls around, you your schedule could be filled up already too. And if you're

[46:19] trying to find a replacement vendor in May

[46:21] » and they they had requested that and but the you know so I'm just trying to Yeah.

[46:26] Whatever you guys think. Then my only other point or question I guess is is it

[46:29] nine or 10 where people are at as far as vendors? We had 12.

[46:33] » We had 12 >> this year.

[46:34] » I think I think we had 12 but 11 showed up

[46:41] » and one left early >> and one left early.

[46:43] » 10 would be a great number. >> Are we you know so we're making changes

[46:46] to this y >> from what we've done in the past.

[46:49] » Yep. >> Are we just going to like say something

[46:52] on Facebook about that? How are the people that have historically been here

[46:57] or have applied, how are they going to know that we've made changes?

[47:01] » So, we thought about it when we talked about it about sending a letter saying

[47:05] just so you know that this has changed and here's what it's going to look like.

[47:09] Um, that's what we thought we're about doing just so they're aware of it. Um,

[47:15] the um I forget her name, but she didn't care either way. She doesn't want the

[47:19] verbage there, but I thought that's what we when we talked about it. I think I

[47:25] think it's a good idea.

[47:30] » I would suggest contacting all of the vendors that we had this year, letting

[47:36] them know that the contract has been updated, give them first chance, and

[47:43] then obviously push it out to other vendors. Then if we don't hit that

[47:48] certain number of whatever our max is.

[47:54] » Okay. >> We change are you changing it to March

[48:00] April instead of April and May >> once we

[48:06] » All right. So after everything >> I asked him to wait on that so we can

[48:10] get a motion on what we wanted. >> Well, let's get it right and then make a

[48:13] motion. >> All right. That's what you guys want to

[48:15] do. >> Yeah, let's do marching. Let's do it.

[48:17] Let's Thanks, Brady.

[48:27] Then the only other thing that I was wondering about are

[48:32] the extra passes.

[48:36] I know we there's >> I think we have up to four. Well, I

[48:41] yeah, that's what I was just wondering because now we're giving away for the

[48:44] wristbands, we were giving away two two free days instead of just one,

[48:49] right? At the $15 mark, it's total of 25 if you pay for all five. So, I think

[48:56] that before we leave that at 15, we should have the discussion

[49:01] about what we're doing with >> I don't think you should put dollar

[49:04] amount in there because what happens if they just want to buy one day pass for

[49:07] one person? >> Oh, I see. So you're saying if he

[49:10] includes additional passes may be purchased.

[49:14] » Yeah. Just >> Oh. Oh. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[49:17] » Take out each

[49:22] » good pitch. There you go.

[49:28] » Okay. March.

[49:35] » You good with that for your paperwork? Okay. at the bottom there. Confirmation.

[49:42] » Only question I have is I imagine this is for Kim. Is 4 o'lock on a meeting

[49:47] date on on those Mondays. Is that enough time for you to know who's a get off

[49:53] applications for the meeting to us or do you need it earlier in the day?

[49:59] I mean, do you need a cut off at 3:00? Whatever time you want the cut off is

[50:02] when it is. You know, I just want to make sure that you have enough time so

[50:06] that you can get those to the board meeting so we can look at it.

[50:10] » Hopefully they don't everybody doesn't wait until the last second that Kim's

[50:12] got 10 of them to look through. >> The only other thing

[50:16] » the other thing you could possibly do is stop it on Friday before that Monday so

[50:21] you don't have to mess with it on Monday. Yeah. I mean, if they're

[50:23] waiting, they're respectful enough people. They should get this in in

[50:26] advance. >> And I I don't I don't say that, but she

[50:29] I mean the Monday through Friday or Monday through Thursday that the county

[50:32] works. That's why I admitted that >> I just want to make sure that you have

[50:36] enough time that you're not like at the last second trying to print those off

[50:39] because there will be people that send the applications in at 358.

[50:43] » I would imagine it would maybe be one. So, I don't think it would be a big

[50:47] deal. >> Okay. I'd like to make a motion to

[50:50] accept the new food vendor contract. >> Second.

[50:54] » Discussion. Discussion. Is $1,000 too cheap?

[51:01] I think for this year I think it's right where we need to be to be honest with

[51:04] you. I don't feel like if we go yes, but if we go too much more I don't want to I

[51:11] don't want to get too >> greedy at first. I want to make sure

[51:16] that they can come in and do it again. Dave,

[51:19] » it's a big jump from where we were and I just think that I agree. Let's prove our

[51:22] value to them again and keep them hungry to come back.

[51:26] » Just wanted to ask. We didn't really talk about that much.

[51:28] » Any more discussion? All in favor then? I

[51:33] » opposed. Okay, that passes. Thank you, Michael. Okay, we're going to go um I'm

[51:40] not sure why it says ticket pricing, but it should say

[51:44] well um >> wristbands,

[51:47] » wristbands. >> Um so we don't have to slide for that.

[51:53] So, I was waiting for a slide to come up, but right now, just so you guys

[51:58] know, the the the ticket pricing is not it was supposed to be armband pricing.

[52:05] So, um what I'm getting at by that is right now, Michael, we're brought to me

[52:10] that uh right now that we are at $15. So, that takes care of three days. Well,

[52:15] all five is actually $25. So, if we get four in there and we give them a day

[52:21] free, that's actually $20 per per wristband. Um,

[52:29] so what's your guys' thoughts on that then?

[52:33] » I I don't see why we wouldn't be able to do 20 bucks for a wristband. Um, I I

[52:39] think five bucks, you know, to get in whenever you want, go out, in and out,

[52:44] free will. I think that that that'd be just in line with any other fair.

[52:53] Scott, um, couple questions. What was it was a small percentage that used card

[53:00] right this year at the gate? Do you think that'll go up next year now that

[53:05] people know? >> I think so. So, I don't think it'll go

[53:10] up to overtake 50% of them, but I think it'll go from 12 to 15% up to maybe 25

[53:19] 30. >> I know. The reason why I ask is we've

[53:22] been at $5 since I believe 2020 >> co 19. That's when we $5, wasn't it?

[53:29] » No. Uh, they did it prior to us joining. So, it's

[53:32] » No, we changed it all the first years we were on.

[53:35] » That would have been 19 then. That's That's when we rechanged all of it. We

[53:38] went to a straight $5. Before that, they had like car.

[53:41] » Yep. >> So, we've been

[53:43] » that part. Yes. Yes. That was 19. >> I've haven't wanted to raise it

[53:47] personally because $5 you don't have to deal with once.

[53:51] » Do we look at raising gate prices from 5 to $7?

[53:57] We all have to deal with $1 bill, >> but that's only if they buy day passes

[54:03] versus week, >> right?

[54:05] Um, but we've been here at the same price as a time that we increase our

[54:10] attendance money. >> So, the only thing on that, um, I don't

[54:15] disagree with you about with the pricing going up. I want one more year to be

[54:21] able to say to the community that we're for real and then have the discussion

[54:25] the following year about, hey, I think we might want to talk about ticket

[54:29] pricing going up from five to whatever we choose to do. Um, but I do think uh

[54:35] that there's a good idea or maybe a little bit of a discussion to go in on

[54:40] this wristband thing. If we don't want it, I understand. I'm saying we lost out

[54:45] on what we had was what he had was right around 750 tickets, which is almost four

[54:51] grand. So, when you look at it like that,

[54:54] that's just off of $5. So, um, that's the only reason why I was

[54:59] looking at it that way when he brought it to my attention that we're giving

[55:04] away two free days. Dave, did you have something to add?

[55:06] » Yeah. Um, the wristbands, I'm fine with 20. The daily pass at five, I'd just

[55:11] soon keep it there just because every fair you go to, it's so expensive just

[55:16] to get in the gate. And for me, with the family, it's it's really frustrating.

[55:20] I've heard so many comments this year, especially at the entertainment when

[55:24] you're sitting around with people just talking and they're like five bucks to

[55:27] get in here to see all this and you know it's people really consider it a value

[55:32] and I'd rather have that their mindset be like that and work our our um

[55:40] contributions from businesses and things like that as hard as we did this past

[55:44] year and and have a really satisfied community, you

[55:50] a group at the fair. So, I just think there's not very often that people have

[55:55] see a perceived value in something when they and as many people has come up to

[55:58] me and said five bucks is just there, you know, they really appreciate that.

[56:03] So, >> I would agree with you, Scott, on it's

[56:06] hard to do a dollar. So, I mean, if we're going to up it, it's it'd be hard

[56:11] to go the next step and get eliminate $1 bills. So, it's like, okay, we either

[56:16] really up it or we keep it the same. And I think we're probably not there yet. So

[56:21] I think five bucks probably is in line with what we're trying to achieve. But

[56:26] that's my opinion. >> You got to remember that too. I'm a

[56:32] farmer and so I'm always paying the bills that everybody else is charging

[56:35] and Ben's a guy that charges the bills and and get people pay him what he

[56:41] charges. So it's just a different perspective.

[56:43] » Okay. Well, we're digging on Ben here. I I I happen to the only thing I want to

[56:50] come back on is yes, it's almost an extra four gram we're losing.

[56:55] » I the only question I ask with this I have to bring it up is that what we're

[57:01] doing is it it's at the cost of the families that are coming in. I'm g we're

[57:07] we're just guessing. We didn't know cuz we didn't have that. How many of them

[57:10] were the 4 and the kids in the families >> was 750 armbands. Was that what we went

[57:17] through or is that what we sold? >> Uh the went through. So

[57:20] » So how many of those were 4 k >> exhibitors? Right.

[57:23] » Exhibitors. >> Yeah. Exhibitors. Yeah.

[57:25] » You know because everyone >> that's what that's what I just said. We

[57:28] don't have that. That's why I don't know. But those guys are for free,

[57:31] right? They're getting their armband for free once they sign their exhibitor. No,

[57:36] we pay for it when you sign up on >> We pay for it. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[57:41] » But it can be, not to make it complicated, but you could have two

[57:44] different prices. The kids that sign up for,

[57:48] » you know, there exhibitors at the fair can be a price when they sign up and

[57:52] then it's maybe more complicated, but I guess everybody could just come and say

[57:57] they're Yeah. Everybody could just come say they're an exhibitor, too.

[58:01] I I don't think another five bucks I would but five bucks guys if you guys

[58:08] can't they can't afford this they shouldn't come to the fair. I'm sorry

[58:12] but >> we're not talking people coming to the

[58:14] fair. We're talking about like the 4 kids that are showing their exhibits.

[58:18] » I got it. I get it. So, I guess I, you know, it's different than charging

[58:23] someone that's coming to the fair to be at the fair because I believe even if I

[58:29] have one project in, maybe you guys can correct me if I'm

[58:33] wrong, but I believe if I have one project that I enter that I want to

[58:37] bring to the fair, I still have to pay $15 to get my armband. Even if I only

[58:42] come in, I made a picture and I just wanted to bring it to the fair and I'm

[58:46] not going to come to the fair. I drop it off Sunday. I still have to pay $15 for

[58:51] my armband. Is that correct? >> Negative.

[58:54] » Ne, that is not right. >> No. When you come to the fair, you pick

[58:57] up your your your Marge, you can speak up.

[59:02] » Sure. >> Yep.

[59:03] » And then >> it is the buying

[59:05] » $5 armband.

[59:08] » So, it's $5 for your armband. Okay. >> That's what I thought. Right.

[59:12] » Everybody else is paying the full 20. >> Correct.

[59:17] So they get a $5 daily pass is what you're saying. Awesome.

[59:22] » Right. If you look at $6 entry versus $5

[59:35] and it takes when there's 14,000 people that can

[59:39] 14,000 games that really makes up the

[59:48] Columbus had a $15,000

[59:54] entry. Maybe people have to buy,

[1:00:02] but

[1:00:05] donation money goes a heck of a lot further.

[1:00:09] $15,000 is another almost stage

[1:00:16] act. So

[1:00:25] kind of thing to say that the time is still a very small percent.

[1:00:31] » Yeah. The only thing that I >> Yeah. The only thing like I agree with I

[1:00:36] I agree that we should up it, but I also agree that we've had one really good

[1:00:41] year, right? I think we have another really good year and show them that we

[1:00:45] can do it. Then it's a no then then you're not going to have any backlash

[1:00:49] from it in my mind. If they do want to give us backlash, well it wasn't just a

[1:00:54] one-year wonder, right? You know, we did it we did it two years in a row. Now

[1:00:58] buck off, you know, is to Austin's point. Um I I I I understand

[1:01:05] all that. Um I just I just trying to not muddy the

[1:01:10] water, I guess. And and

[1:01:15] so I guess the the question I has is if we go from 15 to 20 on the armband or if

[1:01:22] we keep everything the same for one more year and and go into next year. It was

[1:01:27] so that's the discussion.

[1:01:33] So anybody want to keep or Yeah. player,

[1:01:40] » you know, we made a big change this year uh

[1:01:45] in that I thought that we bought brought the community out and they found value,

[1:01:52] you know, and we we need to have the community be part of that. We we just

[1:01:55] don't need mom and dads and grandpas and grandmas to come and watch the little

[1:02:00] bingo there show his calf or pig or sheep because they're going to come

[1:02:04] anyway. But I and I don't, you know, I don't

[1:02:08] have a horse in this race, but it it's just that I want I want I want the

[1:02:14] community to feel that when they come to the Dun County Fair that that's the best

[1:02:18] damn money they spent for entertainment.

[1:02:24] » So, we're just doing it on just the

[1:02:27] wristbands, right? >> That's Y. I guess I'd make a motion that

[1:02:32] we keep it the same this year as last year and but hopefully we'll have the

[1:02:37] ability to track where the wristbands are actually being used and we can

[1:02:42] circle back next year. >> Is there a second?

[1:02:44] » I'll second >> discussion. More discussion.

[1:02:50] The motion is we keep it the same at $15.

[1:02:54] All in favor? I >> opposed. Okay. Leaving it alone. Okay.

[1:03:01] All right. Mike, you're back up. All right. Outdoor vendors. So,

[1:03:06] discussion and possible action of this. So,

[1:03:11] oh, where am I at? Commercial. Sorry. Yeah, commercial. So, the commercial

[1:03:16] vendors. Um,

[1:03:19] so this year, Austin, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but we had $3,500 that we

[1:03:24] had to pay out. There was $2,200 brought in for a minus of $1,300.

[1:03:31] Um, and with those $1,300, I know I get told this a lot not to look at it like

[1:03:36] this, but we also give them $30 worth of free wristbands to get in. So, but

[1:03:42] either way, we lost $1,300 in the commercial building this year. Um, so

[1:03:47] the the discussion I have is that right now the price is at $175

[1:03:54] for them to get in. Um, I guess my my thought is are we going to keep losing

[1:04:01] money with 22 vendors and have to deal with it or are we going to go ahead and

[1:04:08] uh get rid of the uh uh vendors inside and maybe make them outside? Um being

[1:04:14] that the I thought we were losing last year, this year proved that we were. Um

[1:04:19] you want to scroll down on that if you can please.

[1:04:24] So that there there's the price. Now, the only thing I changed there is if we

[1:04:29] did do that, the outdoor booth space would be that instead of $125,

[1:04:36] but

[1:04:40] » $175. >> Yep.

[1:04:44] » Discussion. Uh Austin, sorry. I think this is a great idea. We have plenty of

[1:04:50] space. We have plenty of outlets. Um, and uh, it would cause a lot less

[1:04:57] headaches for a lot of people and create more indoor show space. I was

[1:05:04] just thinking about the map auction and uh, if we had bad weather or

[1:05:10] something there, there's no reason why it almost couldn't be held in there.

[1:05:15] You ever thought about it that way with the bleachers and everything?

[1:05:18] » I think it was one time

[1:05:30] It'd be it'd be an idea. I I do like this idea quite a bit.

[1:05:37] I know that uh that other vendor that used to do the pipe and drape contacted

[1:05:42] us and the cost would be less than we paid this year, closer to a,000 bucks.

[1:05:49] But that still

[1:05:53] um doesn't really get us ahead with all the we only have so much indoor real

[1:05:58] estate space at the fair. That's one of the prime buildings. Well, one of the

[1:06:02] other things too is the growing aspect of it. Um with the uh the the young the

[1:06:09] juniors and the seniors divisions and the seniors wanting more space with the

[1:06:14] quilts cuz right now we don't have quilts um and that and they want them

[1:06:17] behind closed doors. Dave, do you got something to add?

[1:06:20] » That that was my question is if you took if the vendors were to leave the

[1:06:24] commercial building, what would how do you envision that space being used?

[1:06:28] » I envision it uh being more of the 4 um inviting that in there. I also have

[1:06:34] talked to uh Jeff um which he doesn't seem to have an opinion right now at the

[1:06:41] moment about it, but uh um about moving the tractors back indoors into that

[1:06:47] commercial building and then opening up that building that the tractors are in

[1:06:52] to the poultry and rabbits and that because that project has uh really took

[1:06:58] off. it as growing uh in some of the species almost four times the amount uh

[1:07:04] I I want to say it was chickens that were that but um and opening up that

[1:07:08] barn to allow more space um going forward and that's so envisioning it

[1:07:14] that's how I envision it. I guess the other part of that I know Larry had made

[1:07:20] you made a comment at the county board meeting about the commercial vendors and

[1:07:24] how often how long some of them have been there. So, I guess I'd be curious

[1:07:28] to your thoughts on indoor versus outdoor.

[1:07:32] » Well, the first thing first thing I don't want to do is leave

[1:07:36] puddles of oil on that concrete uh from these 60-year-old tractors.

[1:07:45] And uh the only tractors that I can ever remember that we've had in there in the

[1:07:49] past had been Deb's brother brought uh their uh Gordon's uh tractors in and

[1:07:58] there was cardboard down and everything like that, but uh I don't drive anything

[1:08:03] that doesn't leak oil. You know, I'm all for, you know, keeps the dust down. But

[1:08:11] uh I just happened to uh before the meeting tonight uh look at

[1:08:17] the um one of the papers out of the Twin Cities and the wasn't the top banner but

[1:08:24] it was the bottom half and uh it had to do with uh political ads and people you

[1:08:33] know stating their political views and putting it out there

[1:08:37] even at the Minnesota State fair is a noticeable thing. I mean, I I

[1:08:43] didn't read the article, but uh you know, some people like to come to

[1:08:49] the fair to agree with a political uh uh party and other folks like to come to

[1:08:55] the fair to give the Dickens to the political party. And uh

[1:09:02] uh those folks probably aren't interested in map. They're probably not

[1:09:07] interested in the chicken show and probably don't even know that we got a

[1:09:11] dog show and uh uh think that they got singing at the grand stand or the stage

[1:09:19] is a you guy with long hair but you know so so all I'm saying is is

[1:09:25] that a fair offers a lot of different things to different people and uh I

[1:09:31] don't like being uh uh asked

[1:09:36] buy a knife or anything else walking down the thing, but just say no thanks.

[1:09:41] You know, uh uh but I look at the folks that come there representing their

[1:09:47] church. I look at uh people coming there representing their business, Fleet Farm.

[1:09:52] I look at the sheriff's department come there representing Dun County,

[1:09:57] uh and uh everything in between. So maybe

[1:10:04] maybe we just put them against the wall and have one row and uh um raise the

[1:10:10] price and and instead of eliminating it uh cut it back and make it more

[1:10:16] expensive to be there and see if this is really what they want to do. Um, and uh,

[1:10:24] uh, you know, I don't get down the Midway

[1:10:29] very often anymore, but there was a time when you'd walk down there with your

[1:10:33] buddies and every guy would want you to throw the softball at the three milk

[1:10:36] bottles and stuff like that. So, I was at the Minnesota State Fair one year uh

[1:10:42] showing cattle and I'm with five or six other guys that were down there and

[1:10:46] we're going down there and the midway guy says, "Hey, Slim, come on over

[1:10:50] here." I'm looking around. He says, "See if you can three shots

[1:10:56] here to knock down three ducks and you'll win this big prize." And uh uh of

[1:11:02] course I didn't hit any of them. And I guy took the gun away from me and he

[1:11:06] slapped me on the back and he said, "Hippie, you gave it all you had."

[1:11:11] » Wow. >> That was back in the 60s. Guys called me

[1:11:14] hippie forever after that. So, I mean, there's a fair experience.

[1:11:18] » Larry, do you do you think if we had a tent with walls on it that say could be

[1:11:24] closed up at the end of the night, right? So, they we could have tables out

[1:11:28] there and it' be a tent with walls. >> That that would be good enough for these

[1:11:33] guys. So they don't have to completely tear down every day. But

[1:11:37] » I would think that would work for for a couple of reasons. And the other other

[1:11:41] reason would be is that, >> you know, it's not fun being the guy

[1:11:45] that has to make sure things are locked up

[1:11:49] and that stuff's going to be there next morning, you know, and the county guys

[1:11:53] have done a good job with that, but I never really cared for being that guy.

[1:11:56] » And I get that. But when I looked at a lot of these vendors that you just spoke

[1:12:00] about >> at Downsville days, where were they all

[1:12:03] at? >> All outside.

[1:12:05] » Every one of them. Walmart, >> the police department, the homemakers.

[1:12:12] Um, I've seen those girls outside, by the way. Um, everything that I was there

[1:12:17] seeing was all outside. I'm saying that they can make it still an outdoor vendor

[1:12:22] pricing and stop. All I'm getting at is when I go through there, I see so much

[1:12:27] potential space to add to the show. When you give something space to grow is what

[1:12:32] I'm getting at. It's going to grow. That that project in the commercial building

[1:12:35] has grown. And I I just think that I don't personally want to walk through

[1:12:40] there. Why? Because I'm getting solicited for something that I don't

[1:12:45] want anything to do of. And if you look at that building, where is everybody

[1:12:48] else? They're away from it. I I just want to make sure that we're giving

[1:12:53] every and I get that point. I just want to make sure that everybody gets the

[1:12:56] same as you we say fair experience by not getting heckled when they want to go

[1:13:00] see something that's in a commercial building like a arts and crafts or a

[1:13:04] Lego thing. >> So we do have plenty of real estate to

[1:13:07] put them outside too as far as like between the commercial barn and dairy

[1:13:10] barn. We we got that whole row we could line with tents. Well, there's not

[1:13:16] there's nothing wrong in in doing things different and I don't want to drag it

[1:13:21] say that this is the way it's got to be. I'm just saying for my own personal

[1:13:25] opinion, you know, I really enjoy seeing those people come

[1:13:29] back year after year and if they come back to a different spot, they come back

[1:13:33] to a different spot. And uh uh but I don't want to I don't want to drip oil

[1:13:41] on that. >> Right. Dave,

[1:13:44] » I think uh if one of the things that uh I had heard about was the possibility of

[1:13:49] separating the junior exhibitors from the open class. Correct.

[1:13:53] » And I think that would be really neat for the people coming to look at

[1:13:57] exhibits to know what exactly what stuff the kids made versus what was open

[1:14:01] class. And as far as the oil tractor, I think we can hand take care of that if

[1:14:06] it were to go to the building. I just think that that antique tractor display,

[1:14:10] there's so many people that I talked to that want to bring more tractors next

[1:14:14] year. I mean, uh, I sat next to a guy who's

[1:14:17] had a a Massie that he's been working on for years, but he's like, "Next year

[1:14:21] that tractor's coming and I'm going to have it done and bring it here." So, I

[1:14:25] mean, I just think there's a lot of uh pent up demand from what happened this

[1:14:29] year and from people. So, I went to Northern Wisconsin. I think there's like

[1:14:33] five tractors or six tractors there or something like that. I think we got a

[1:14:38] good thing going. I think there's nostalgia when it's in the old highway

[1:14:41] shop with the bricks and the great lights and

[1:14:45] » that that's a pretty cool part. But how many man hours do you think Brady that

[1:14:49] we have just in running electrical for those commercial vendor booths? At least

[1:14:54] a couple man hours. So you could factor $100, $200 saved just in and all those

[1:15:02] 100 plus pound cords that are running 300 ft with distro boxes and everything

[1:15:08] else. It' be eliminated.

[1:15:15] » Any more? Ben, >> are we ready for a motion?

[1:15:20] » All right. I move that we uh take the commercial uh building as far as the the

[1:15:28] Republican, Democrat, all the booths and we give them

[1:15:33] a spot outside under a tent and we can discuss later on where we put them and

[1:15:38] then open it up for the commercial building to for the projects to grow and

[1:15:43] then the price to uh go through as far as this pricing that we had discussed.

[1:15:49] Second. >> I'll second.

[1:15:52] » Discussion. Scott,

[1:15:54] » why do we have to supply a tent? Why can't they just bring if they want to be

[1:15:58] a vendor and they're outside, you bring your own tent?

[1:16:00] » Did I say supply? >> Not supply a tent, but they can bring a

[1:16:04] tent. >> They supply a tent.

[1:16:07] » Yeah, they can bring a tent, but it was Yeah, I was under the impression that

[1:16:10] you were saying buying a big big tent because that was came up at one point.

[1:16:14] » Okay. Um, more discussion, >> you know, Mr. chairman, if we had if we

[1:16:20] did have an outside um uh display, you know, there's nothing

[1:16:25] more fun than a dunk tank. And I mean, you can't have a dunk tank inside.

[1:16:31] » I know a guy. >> I know a guy

[1:16:34] » saying it's a heck of a good time. >> I

[1:16:40] try one of the >> You should have saw when he went down

[1:16:44] the slide getting him up off of that. They have.

[1:16:47] » All right. Reel back in, boy. >> Back into uh Iowa State Fair had a they

[1:16:52] always do an animal calling contest and they also this year did a mom calling

[1:16:58] contest from young young kids. And so couple things like that and whatever too

[1:17:04] I think would spice things up a little. But

[1:17:06] » so so going into what the tents outside, I only ask that you think what we have I

[1:17:13] know my opinion. What is your opinion as far as putting you had mentioned it

[1:17:18] earlier someone asked a question about putting those tents outside? We have

[1:17:21] enough space >> then

[1:17:25] » we got enough power we can run it home. That's my biggest concern is

[1:17:28] » there's there's exterior outlets everywhere that we put booths out there

[1:17:32] on the east side of the building. >> And if we adjusted where we put a few of

[1:17:38] those portaotties on the south side of the Finetti, if they actually wrap more

[1:17:42] around the corner behind um the uh the one food truck, so they'd be facing

[1:17:48] west, then that would give that whole line which has exterior outlets. So,

[1:17:54] » but that's the other thing. That's why I'm saying a lot of these on here, uh,

[1:17:58] when they come, they're not requesting any power and all of a sudden they're

[1:18:01] plugging into a 110 outlet and we're not expecting that cuz that's the one that

[1:18:06] they've always had and they're like, we know that spot and that's why that lady

[1:18:10] was so maybe that was you so adamant about being where she was because she

[1:18:13] knew there was an outlet there. Well, on her application, when I look back, there

[1:18:17] was no need for electricity. Most of them didn't need electricity. So,

[1:18:22] » we also have the the oak tree pedestal that we wouldn't be putting a food

[1:18:28] vendor at anymore, >> as well as interior uh 50 amp outlets on

[1:18:34] the inside of that overhead garage door of the FinTe Center that I ran cords out

[1:18:39] from that would easily reach vendor row with the DRO boxes we already had. So,

[1:18:46] we're good. >> Any more discussion?

[1:18:54] Okay. So, the motion's been made. All in favor say I. Opposed.

[1:19:01] Okay. Passes. Okay. Um, then it'll just go to the

[1:19:05] outdoor vendor. That's what we have up here as far as pricing. And that pricing

[1:19:10] just needs to be voted on. That's the only thing we changed. So, if you guys

[1:19:15] are good with the outdoor fender, what do you guys want to do with that

[1:19:21] pricing from 125 to 17? >> What was indoor pricing?

[1:19:25] » Right there. It's 125. >> Oh, indoor. Sorry.

[1:19:28] » Indoor was 175. >> Okay. But now they're all outdoors, so

[1:19:31] you might as well make them all. So, I make a motion to have all outdoor

[1:19:37] vendors at 175. >> There second.

[1:19:40] » Second. >> Discussion.

[1:19:44] Uh,

[1:19:49] I guess awesome. What if there's an outdoor vendor that comes in there

[1:19:55] » that

[1:19:59] needs extra space? Any verbiage that isn't a 10 by 30 or a 10 by 20 like the

[1:20:05] outdoor bouncy castle? >> Yeah,

[1:20:07] » that's true. So, so the 10x10 booth as we have discussed before about that that

[1:20:14] now goes to a 10 by 20. Now they're paying for is that what you're getting

[1:20:18] at? >> Yeah. If if that's if we just calculate

[1:20:21] it maybe on that square footage. >> We didn't know how to we didn't know how

[1:20:25] to when I asked Michael to help me out with this. I didn't know how to put that

[1:20:29] verbiage in there. So, I was just thinking as when Kim said to that

[1:20:33] person, well, that's an extra, you know, that's 300 bucks.

[1:20:37] » Yeah. 325. >> Yeah. Let's let's just say

[1:20:41] u size adjustable at same cost per square

[1:20:46] foot. Is that fair?

[1:20:48] » Yes. >> For example, the outdoor bouncy castle

[1:20:52] is 20 by 20. They just pay that same square footage rate of the 10 by 10.

[1:21:01] Otherwise that guy if he would have showed up would have got a extremely

[1:21:05] good deal because there was no cap. >> Okay. Yeah. Say that

[1:21:13] » uh uh outdoor boo space is 175 for the 10T by 10 foot.

[1:21:20] » Um >> you have a 10 by 20 that's going to be

[1:21:25] 350, right? >> Yeah. Adjust

[1:21:28] » 175 for 100. But how would you so adjustable?

[1:21:35] » Like the person with the with the >> with the with the bow person like he he

[1:21:40] was going to call and say, "Hey, I need more space. Can I get two?" You know, if

[1:21:43] someone's coming with something bigger, they'll just

[1:21:46] » Yeah. >> because it specified a 10 by 10 space.

[1:21:51] » It does have Yeah. Like Kim said, it's got the quantity right on there.

[1:21:54] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:21:57] » Just more discussion. Yep, we're good. >> Any more discussion?

[1:22:04] » All right. All in favor with the motion. I

[1:22:07] » post. Okay. Passes at 175 for an outdoor. Okay. Um judges contract

[1:22:16] affidavits. We had uh uh revised it. Do you have that?

[1:22:22] Yeah. the we had uh updated it um on the affidavit or whatever one we'll we'll

[1:22:29] start with one >> sure

[1:22:32] » um >> so this is

[1:22:35] one that we used this year >> correct

[1:22:41] » so unfortunately >> unfortunately I didn't uh do like the

[1:22:47] the red and green font to show the differences I created a whole new.

[1:22:52] » Yeah, I know. Terrible of me, Scott. I I apologize.

[1:22:56] » So, what we So, what we did go ahead and put the new one up there. So, the reason

[1:23:01] for the updated version was it had a lot of it that uh wasn't uh for the for what

[1:23:08] wording, so to speak. Uh so, we made it more correct. Um go scroll down.

[1:23:15] Okay.

[1:23:21] Okay. So like right there that hereby certify the recorded entries attach

[1:23:27] before the departments there was nothing. There was only a line for your

[1:23:30] department. So if she did for example in the commercial building she did foods

[1:23:35] and horiculture I don't know she couldn't put that on there. She was

[1:23:38] writing all the things she did. This gives them or he gives them for uh it

[1:23:43] it's not much but it's something. And scroll down

[1:23:47] » and then circles. >> Yep. Yep. And then this is what it looks

[1:23:51] like now.

[1:23:56] So now it asks the department number, the department name. So it keeps

[1:24:00] everything a lot more cleaner when it goes to Marge and Michael. Right, Marge?

[1:24:05] You liking that? Okay. A lot cleaner. It gives the judge's information right down

[1:24:10] there along with the license. And for Kim, it tells her that's an animal judge

[1:24:15] or nonl animal judge. And all you got to do is mark the box instead of writing it

[1:24:19] all in. It's a signature of the judge and then signature from Kim and away we

[1:24:24] go. So that main part right at the bottom as you see in the 1 1234

[1:24:29] was taken out. This is what was put into place along with the 250 and the 160 and

[1:24:35] the name uh or not the name sorry the phone number was added along with the

[1:24:41] bottom two signatures. A checkbox. Are we good with that?

[1:24:46] That's that one. Are you uh you guys see anything wrong with the judge's

[1:24:50] affidavit? >> Do you need an email in there, too, or

[1:24:52] no?

[1:24:57] » Uh where are you? >> You do you need an email in there, too?

[1:25:01] » Oh, for the judge's information. >> It's a good idea.

[1:25:04] » Yeah. >> Okay, we'll add the email in there.

[1:25:07] » Did you take that off of the cap form? Okay.

[1:25:14] » Yeah. Yep. >> Ours is actually a little bit more

[1:25:17] in-depth >> than the one that you can get off the

[1:25:20] DadCap website. >> Add email. Good catch.

[1:25:29] » Okay. Anything else? >> Approve.

[1:25:33] » I move to approve the new judges form with the email added to it.

[1:25:40] » Is there a second? Uh discussion.

[1:25:47] All in favor? I >> opposed. Okay, that passes. Okay, that

[1:25:52] was the affidavit. This is going to go with the contract, right? That was part

[1:25:58] of it. >> Or the kitty tractor pull.

[1:26:01] » Okay, so yeah, that's right. I have that the um the kitty tractor pull uh

[1:26:09] contract. Um, so it is $600 going into next year is

[1:26:16] what she has sent us. Um, we have the right to do what you guys want. I'm just

[1:26:22] letting you know that uh if we want to sign the contract, she had sent an email

[1:26:28] over with what it's going to look like. And I

[1:26:32] should have had it pulled up, but I don't.

[1:26:42] I thought we had like a couple years left.

[1:26:45] » That's what I was going to talk about is that uh uh we we did but uh she had she

[1:26:51] she was wrong. That was our last year and and for the contract. So we're not

[1:26:58] underneath any more contracts. We were up to uh you guys to um you want this.

[1:27:10] Alls I know is we're going to have to probably find a new young man to pull

[1:27:13] that sled back cuz I don't know if Jack is going to be there. Jack said it was

[1:27:18] that he enjoyed it because he used to do it when he was a kid, but he says it's a

[1:27:22] lot. You know, for us to pay 600 bucks, it's a great experience for kids. But

[1:27:26] Jack's like, "Dad, that's actually quite a bit of work that sl back how many

[1:27:31] times?" You know, so it's like we probably, you know,

[1:27:37] » No, Jack had Jack had to >> How many kids do we have this year

[1:27:41] pulling? >> Him and his family did the whole

[1:27:43] » No, Jack pulled it back every time. uh with what Larry had told me. Larry,

[1:27:50] do you remember there was six I want to say 16? Was that correct?

[1:27:55] » 17 something like that. >> It wasn't anyways.

[1:28:01] » And uh the only thing I can say about the tractor pull is that unless you've

[1:28:07] got somebody that wants to do that, you know, you're not going to cut across the

[1:28:12] fairgrounds to come and watch it. you know, it's it's strictly a uh like a

[1:28:18] little britches thing. Uh you know, if you got somebody participating, you're

[1:28:23] going to watch. If you don't have anybody participating, you're not going

[1:28:27] to watch. And uh we kind of fell down a little bit this year and that we didn't

[1:28:33] really have any prize money to give out like we have in the past. And we we we

[1:28:38] had some Culver's gift certificates. Uh I don't I don't know what it would do if

[1:28:44] we uh promote it, but the whole whole thing is is that it uh

[1:28:52] you know has classes from four and under up to what 11 or 12 and these kids come

[1:28:58] back every year and grandparents come back every year, you know, and so so for

[1:29:03] the people that are involved in it, it's a big deal. for nobody for everybody

[1:29:07] else, you know, they're worried about the price of cheese curds or, you know,

[1:29:13] something with the ban. You people come to the fair for different reasons. This

[1:29:16] is just one of many reasons. So, depends on what you want to do. It would seem to

[1:29:22] me if you had the uh the pipe and drape out of there that would give you a

[1:29:27] little more room. Uh it was absolutely not successful in thinking that uh

[1:29:34] grandpa and grandma and mom and dad are going to be uh up in the bleachers

[1:29:38] because they're right down there taking the picture right in front of the kid

[1:29:42] and the kids brothers and sisters.

[1:29:46] So, I mean, you know, it's if you're there and you got somebody doing it, it

[1:29:51] means something otherwise, you know,

[1:29:57] » correct me if I'm >> wrong, but

[1:30:00] » wasn't that kind of a last second thing where we didn't even think we were going

[1:30:04] to the kitty track pull and all of a sudden

[1:30:07] » they called. >> They called and I mean it was like a

[1:30:11] last second thing, >> correct? Is she looking for a multi-year

[1:30:14] contract or can we do a one-year contract?

[1:30:17] » We court if I can. I'm sorry I don't have the email. I thought I had it

[1:30:21] earlier and I don't know where I found it, but it was a one-year contract.

[1:30:24] There wasn't anything multi-year on it. It was just the $600 you supply the

[1:30:29] trophies like we're saying and uh and money cash prizes.

[1:30:35] But it does not it did not state how much it was on there for cash prize. So,

[1:30:39] was it $5, $10? nothing like that. Um, but so our cost would be right around

[1:30:47] $700 is what I had figured out to put on this kitty tractor pull.

[1:30:51] » Our cost, >> Michael.

[1:30:56] » So the the company that we're using right now, are they state sanctioned?

[1:31:00] » Yes. Correct. >> They are. Okay. So it sounds like we're

[1:31:03] paying you said $600 and then yet we're supplying

[1:31:07] » $100. >> Yeah. are supplying whatever the winners

[1:31:10] get, whether it's ribbons or trophies or whatever,

[1:31:12] » and then >> like a prize or a monetary prize for

[1:31:18] that. >> Have we considered looking at other

[1:31:21] pedal pole companies that would handle everything?

[1:31:25] I mean, because it sounds like Troy, your son was pushing everything back,

[1:31:29] which I feel like that is a liability. A and B. It should be

[1:31:37] » I was at the voice for last weekend and they did everything.

[1:31:40] » He pulled it back and >> they took everything in

[1:31:43] » at least nobody to supply it. >> In my experience hiring pedal pole

[1:31:48] companies, they handle everything. Y >> uh the one that I uh hired for Duran

[1:31:55] Funfest, I don't remember the exact cost of it, but it was X amount of money for

[1:32:00] them to host the the poll. And then if you wanted ribbon, if you wanted them to

[1:32:07] supply the prizes, whether it be ribbon or trophy, it was X amount of money. So

[1:32:11] it was X amount for ribbons or X amount for trophies. They handled everything.

[1:32:16] So I just I guess I question if we want to continue doing it. It sounds like

[1:32:22] should we hire someone that is handling everything?

[1:32:25] » Company were they say sanctioned? >> Yes.

[1:32:27] » Okay, >> Dave.

[1:32:30] » Uh I I guess that kind of Michael kind of gets to my point. Downville just had

[1:32:35] it where they have 70ome kids pulling. >> I think something like that. So

[1:32:40] » we had 65. >> I think maybe a different vendor might

[1:32:43] be better for the fair too. But >> and awesome. Luckily, we don't have to

[1:32:49] pay Larry for his announcing otherwise. We'd really be Well, but that's one more

[1:32:54] thing that we have to do ourselves, >> right?

[1:32:58] » And it cost us money.

[1:33:02] » I'm not going to be available. Don't take I got to go. Thanks.

[1:33:07] Is there any chance you could contact that other company that you had and we

[1:33:13] can just table this until next meeting when maybe we have another option as to

[1:33:18] a company that would be all-incclusive and what that would cost then we can

[1:33:23] visit it. >> We can I got the other information just

[1:33:25] now got the techie going on here. So the sponsored uh we have to do the PA system

[1:33:32] obviously an announcer one person to help with the tractor pull and as I was

[1:33:36] saying the trophies and then on top of that they want obviously our liability

[1:33:40] insurance what they're supplying the pedal pole operator is the tractor and

[1:33:45] sled one person to run the tractor and sled registration forms state voucher

[1:33:50] and ribbons flat fee payable to them for $600.

[1:33:56] So when I was asking her what the trophies

[1:33:59] and the cash prizes cuz she added that on what and it wasn't in her contract as

[1:34:06] so they figured that out extra $100. They didn't say trophies or what kind.

[1:34:13] So we can do that. Scott, I just wanted to get the rest of the information out

[1:34:17] to you guys. Uh Ben, did you have some?

[1:34:23] I say we just table it till next meeting look into other vendors.

[1:34:27] » Can I get a second? >> Can I all uh discussion?

[1:34:33] No. All in favor? Okay. Uh matters uh kitty tack poll is

[1:34:41] is um tabled. All right. Schedule changes. Michael's going to bring that

[1:34:47] up. This won't take very long if when he brings it up, but there was a few of

[1:34:51] them that we just want to look at. Uh, one of them was the dog show. They

[1:34:55] wanted to go from a Monday to a Monday. Um, rather than have it on a a Monday

[1:35:03] and a and a Tuesday. They want to go Monday. Monday. So, um, you can see that

[1:35:09] there. You make that bigger.

[1:35:19] Yeah, there we go. So, the ones that are in uh in green are the proposed changes

[1:35:28] um with uh we had an extra day, Jeff, that we we had heard that some people

[1:35:33] wanted on Saturday. That's and just threw that in there if if far as a

[1:35:39] tractor drop off for like a sat, you know, we're there anyway, whatever. But

[1:35:44] just to put it on the schedule so people see it type of deal. Um the planter and

[1:35:49] container drop off on that Monday 11 to 8 being that Marge it wasn't we wouldn't

[1:35:56] see it very utilized. Talking with uh Amy um and and um and uh

[1:36:04] um Zach that it wasn't utilized as much as they thought it was going to because

[1:36:09] they felt like a lot of projects weren't done. So they wanted to know we get it

[1:36:14] back to a Monday, open it up a little longer. So then we went 11 to 8 with and

[1:36:19] then the suggestion was 9 a.m. on the dog judging. And if we scroll down

[1:36:25] um what was there? Okay, this is the big one. So the so we had uh Ben had a lot

[1:36:32] of comments or or not comments but maybe complaints about the sheep shows

[1:36:39] goat show. So talking with the superintendent, Ben, you want to take

[1:36:42] that over, please? >> Yeah. So after talking with the goat

[1:36:45] superintendent, they had a lot of kids that were showing dairy as well as

[1:36:50] goats. Um, and they had put in a request that they get their show moved so then

[1:36:56] they can have kids that can do both their projects. So they had put in a

[1:37:00] request to possibly do after the sheep show. And then I talked to Derek, too.

[1:37:04] So, we were going to bring that up at at this meeting on changing the goat show,

[1:37:08] moving up the sheep show and dropping the goat show below the sheep show, if

[1:37:14] that makes sense. >> Any discussion?

[1:37:19] » That would be different judges for sure. >> Some fairs aren't. So,

[1:37:25] » we would get we would get different judges for the goat and the sheep show.

[1:37:28] Yes. >> Uh dairy. Yes. Dairy and and the goat

[1:37:32] show would be different. Yep, Scott.

[1:37:35] » So then there would be no animal shows that would really overlap. Correct.

[1:37:39] » That's what we're hoping. >> That's I mean I mean they might just by

[1:37:42] few minutes but in theory >> and this was suggestion off of

[1:37:46] » Amy Smithy had made the request because they had some kids that were in both.

[1:37:51] » And just so we're clear, you talked to Amy.

[1:37:54] » Yes. Amy said she would like like to change and I Okay.

[1:38:01] Um, Kim, >> did the um music there was a conflict

[1:38:07] with the dogs and music submissions and stuff. Did that all get

[1:38:12] ironed out? >> That will be cleared up now cuz the dog

[1:38:15] show is moving till Monday. Okay. That was one of the reasons why they were

[1:38:18] willing to move because there are a lot of kids in the dog project that do like

[1:38:22] watching their projects be judged also. >> Um, so they were more than willing to

[1:38:27] move it to Monday. Dave,

[1:38:31] » there any other changes on the other days or is this it? Th

[1:38:34] » This is I don't think we made No, >> we had

[1:38:39] » um this is just a big one because why is cuz I got to put it in the fair book. Uh

[1:38:43] and I'm hoping to start on that pretty soon. Um so I need to know if you guys

[1:38:48] approve of that. So if somebody can make them go ahead, Austin.

[1:38:52] » And this this is just for the judging.

[1:38:56] » Judging. Yes. This is nothing to do with anything else. is the dog project and

[1:39:00] the goat project and the drop off project.

[1:39:04] » I move that we change the goat, the sheep and the dog projects to the

[1:39:09] according times that we have on the schedule.

[1:39:12] » Is there a second?

[1:39:15] Jeff second it is all in favor. Okay, those are okay. Um this should

[1:39:25] have been just a talked about but the parking car organization selection is

[1:39:29] what we were touched base on last time. um that there was a uh actually Nick had

[1:39:36] proposed um that we asked the booster club in Monomony

[1:39:42] um which is great uh and have um uh also with a dollar amount and what we

[1:39:51] were able to give which is a valid point. So, the reason why I have it on

[1:39:56] here, for one, if fine if we ask who we ask, but putting a dollar amount on how

[1:40:01] much we're going to give these people for parking cars and the days are 4 to 8

[1:40:05] on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. That way, we can get this out to these clubs that

[1:40:10] take a while to to make these decisions. Go ahead. Uh, Scott,

[1:40:15] » how many You were up there parking cars. I was not. How many people would it take

[1:40:22] » shooting? Shooting from the hip, you need at least six. I mean, and and

[1:40:27] that's on the light end. I mean, if you got

[1:40:29] » I think you need eight to 10. >> Yeah. Yeah. It would help out having

[1:40:32] more than what we need >> because once you get going all over,

[1:40:35] » I think you're six when you're in the fairgrounds, you go to 8 to 10 when you

[1:40:39] start going across >> the school.

[1:40:41] » And not saying that, you know, one of the members can't jump in and help if we

[1:40:45] need to be later on. And you know, if we set say we need six and we say we need x

[1:40:51] amount of people, not saying that if they get a little short staffed that

[1:40:54] somebody couldn't jump in either and help.

[1:40:57] » I know Bruner would be more than happy to come help again.

[1:41:01] » Jeff, did you have something? >> Nope.

[1:41:04] » I really think the fair board needs to get away from being so involved with the

[1:41:09] parking. You guys did a great job, but it was all encompassing when you guys

[1:41:13] were doing it. So it took up everything you had and you detracted. I mean

[1:41:18] couldn't even see some of the other things that were going on. So um how

[1:41:22] many organizations do we have right now and what do we pay the current

[1:41:26] organizations that do the parking? >> We have one organization right now which

[1:41:32] is the Knights of Columbus uh that deals with that parking. Um, if that's nothing

[1:41:39] that like parking the car, >> they just collect and then uh Lions Club

[1:41:43] is the only other one. >> Yeah, nobody nobody deals with parking.

[1:41:47] » I was just thinking how many 4 clubs >> I know like the Saturday night deal

[1:41:51] might get a little bit harder, but >> say, you know, 4 clubs would be tough

[1:41:57] because if you get younger kids, they they aren't going to be able to park

[1:42:00] cars. I I I get what you're saying, but I mean

[1:42:04] it's you're going to have kids that are going to be helping and I don't

[1:42:07] personally think that's a good idea. >> No, I was just thinking if we could give

[1:42:10] back to the 4 clubs if we could get adults.

[1:42:14] » Maybe fishing game would be up for this or not.

[1:42:17] » Yeah, I'm not opposed to one of these. >> Also, don't think we should give up the

[1:42:22] sell the farm to do it >> to have somebody do it if we f if we

[1:42:27] look at alternatives like busing

[1:42:31] to help. >> Yeah, exactly. So, Stout uh parking and

[1:42:36] transit, we haven't talked about that at all. The possibilities there. Is there

[1:42:40] cost associated with that or not? Um and if if we do do it, I say you get your

[1:42:45] price, what the board, what you guys think, and the dates and then open it up

[1:42:50] and see who's all would be interested in doing it. And not you don't have to give

[1:42:55] every night, you know, you can do different people or different groups for

[1:42:58] different nights or something, too. >> Yeah. I guess that's kind of what I was

[1:43:01] asking is if >> I believe the the Knights of Columbus at

[1:43:05] the gates, I believe it's roughly like $15 a manh hour is what that's figured

[1:43:10] at. It's a little bit lighter than that, but roughly that. So that put it like at

[1:43:14] $2,000. You you know, if you had 10 people here

[1:43:17] for four hours, that'd be roughly about two grand.

[1:43:20] » How many people you say? >> 10.

[1:43:22] » 10 people. That was 10 people. Four hours. You figured from four to eight,

[1:43:25] right? >> Is Troy, I know you were up there. Is 4

[1:43:29] early enough? I know. I I mean, just kind of We We're going on

[1:43:35] night to night. Jeff, you were there, too. Is 4 Is 4:00 early enough?

[1:43:38] » Yes. >> Yeah.

[1:43:39] » Just throwing it out. >> Plenty early. I think we're going to

[1:43:42] have to take them and line them up. you know, we're gonna have to paint lines

[1:43:46] and stuff so people kind of know what's going on better than

[1:43:48] » Y, >> you know,

[1:43:49] » I think we need to be more organized with the parking up front and it would

[1:43:54] make it a lot easier cuz like getting people into the center behind the

[1:43:57] carnival and stuff like that. Probably be four so you can get make sure people

[1:44:02] maybe one or two people just to make sure people aren't parking stupid, you

[1:44:08] know, right? But after >> it went well for the way they parked.

[1:44:14] We still had to fill it in. So >> Dave, did you have something?

[1:44:17] » I just You're You're talking for the entire fair, Scott. The two

[1:44:21] » 2,000 for the whole fair. >> I agree.

[1:44:24] » What? Well, what? Yeah. >> Yeah. Because at that at 10 bucks or 10

[1:44:30] people for 15 times four is 600 bucks a night for three nights would be 1,800.

[1:44:37] » But Yeah. So that that was kind of the what what sorry what was the who said it

[1:44:42] what was the price >> 600

[1:44:45] » I'm just writing it down and I missed what it was

[1:44:48] » 600 at night >> night that's what it was okay

[1:44:50] » that's 10 people >> 10 people

[1:44:54] okay

[1:44:58] Austin did you have something >> even everybody gets there for either the

[1:45:03] grandstand act or the grandstand event or the pre-stage act by 7:00. Even 4 to

[1:45:10] 7 really helps. >> Even I mean if you go if you want that

[1:45:15] many hours, push them up to 3 to 7. By 7:00 everyone's pretty much set.

[1:45:27] » Um so the the big thing on this is the the

[1:45:33] organization and selection. So, as as far as getting a money, how much

[1:45:39] we're going to do, if you guys want to vote on that

[1:45:42] tonight, I guess that's part of it. I think

[1:45:45] » I think we open bid it or or to talk to different organizations and say we need

[1:45:51] we need 10 people 4 hours a day for these three days. What

[1:45:58] » what would Yeah. What would you do it for? Between, you know, a stout

[1:46:01] fraternity with their guys taking it or the football team that was brought up

[1:46:06] earlier with one of our board members use one of the football coaches, a great

[1:46:11] fundraiser for them. They're still done early in the evening or the fishing game

[1:46:15] does it or another organization like that. But um and then it's fair for

[1:46:22] everybody of what they can come in at if they have interest. So, who are we just

[1:46:28] going to >> Would you would you mind if we did

[1:46:31] something like this? We're looking for parking vendors. We're opening it up for

[1:46:36] anybody uh any association to come here and park cars. Here is

[1:46:43] what we're looking for. Thursday through Saturday

[1:46:49] 4 to 8, let's say. Um I agree. >> Contact us.

[1:46:57] Yeah, is that a fair way to go about it?

[1:47:01] » Is that a fair way to go about it is to put something out there? Otherwise, are

[1:47:05] we asking too much or should we just go to certain organizations and ask these

[1:47:09] people that we feel comfortable with to to do that

[1:47:14] » and and like like >> I I guess my mind goes to if you ask

[1:47:17] people to put bids in if their bids are going to come in higher than that just

[1:47:21] thinking that their time is worth more than that. But when you put it down to

[1:47:25] manh hours, it's it's really not. So that's my concern if you just open bid

[1:47:31] it that way. But >> yeah, I'd say we have $1,800 to spend on

[1:47:35] this. >> Yeah. And go to a certain organization

[1:47:38] and ask them what I think I especially if Nick had a contact. Yes. I mean, you

[1:47:44] want to you don't want some organization that maybe no one knows out there. You

[1:47:48] know, I think you're better off working with, you know, if Larry knows a group

[1:47:52] of people that he wants to contact or whatever, go reach out to people that we

[1:47:55] know and starters. >> So, as a board, how as a board, how long

[1:48:00] do we have to come back with >> people? Where when do you want this?

[1:48:04] » I would like to I'd like to get the dollar amount and then if it's all right

[1:48:07] for Nick to contact these people and start there and he he said he would take

[1:48:11] it. >> Well, we plan on 600 bucks tonight for

[1:48:14] 10 people for 4 hours. Is that what we And then uh

[1:48:20] » you're making a motion. >> Yep. I I move that we go with 600 bucks

[1:48:24] a night, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, three nights,

[1:48:29] 3 to 7. >> Okay.

[1:48:31] » With 10 people, and we reach out to different organizations to see if they

[1:48:37] would be willing to do it. >> Is there a second?

[1:48:40] » I'll second that. >> Uh discussion.

[1:48:43] » Are we supplying anything? orange vests. I say we've probably or

[1:48:49] yellow vests, fluorescent vests. Um, and I don't know if the county's got some of

[1:48:54] them cones, them waving cones or something.

[1:49:01] » What about like walkie-talkies? Like is that going to be

[1:49:04] » They probably They probably need walkie-talkies from a fair board. Yeah,

[1:49:09] they're going to need those. >> Okay, that's what I was just wondering.

[1:49:11] You know, are we going to supply? >> We'll probably have to have more radios

[1:49:14] than last year. returned all of them. Um, it was a good test drive, a

[1:49:20] durability test that they did not pass, but I got our money I got our money

[1:49:25] back.

[1:49:29] » Y understand.

[1:49:34] So, >> Scott,

[1:49:37] » um, I would actually I would amend it to actually move it to like 750 a night.

[1:49:43] I'm just thinking of myself and if I were a part of a booster club or

[1:49:46] something, I don't know if I would do it if I'd be

[1:49:50] anxious at doing it at that amount for three nights during the fair and dealing

[1:49:56] with the people. So, I'm a little bit more to say, okay, let's give you a

[1:50:01] little bit extra so maybe we can find somebody.

[1:50:05] » I think there's amend, right? So we

[1:50:12] » we're still in discussion, right? >> We have an amendment. So is there a

[1:50:16] second? >> Yes,

[1:50:17] » there's no second amendment. >> Is there a second?

[1:50:24] » Yeah, the amendment fails.

[1:50:29] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Just go back to the main motion.

[1:50:31] » Yeah. Main motion. Discussion. Correct. You can always up the ante if you don't

[1:50:36] get any biters. I second the motion. That was already

[1:50:41] done. >> Okay. Oh,

[1:50:42] » still discussion. >> Yeah, we're

[1:50:45] » I will I will reach out with Nick and I will have he he's in charge of this. So,

[1:50:52] I'll reach out to him and he'll send it to the booster club. Any more

[1:50:56] discussion? >> We're going to look at U signal cones.

[1:51:02] » Yes, we can land airplanes. We'll get her done.

[1:51:06] » Okay. Oh, any more? All in favor? I

[1:51:11] » I >> oppos. Okay.

[1:51:14] Okay. Um, Culver's gift cards. Uh, and this I don't know

[1:51:22] whose this is, but I'll put it to good use. They said it was for somebody on

[1:51:27] the fairboard. Peter is his name.

[1:51:30] » Yeah. From Jake. >> From Jake.

[1:51:32] » Yeah. >> Was for somebody on the fairboard.

[1:51:36] And he didn't give me a description. He just said the guy on the fairboard. So,

[1:51:41] anybody know who this belongs to? It's not to me.

[1:51:46] » You did a lot of work this last year. >> That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking

[1:51:51] if anybody else. >> Oh, okay.

[1:51:54] » We were visiting. >> Okay. Well, maybe we'll meet you out

[1:52:00] there. Okay. >> Whatever.

[1:52:02] » Mr. Chairman. >> Yeah.

[1:52:03] » One question. I know we we talked about schedule changes prior and I forgot to

[1:52:10] bring it up at that point, but was there any discussion to u moving the demo

[1:52:14] derby ahead a little bit in a time slot to so that it finished just a little bit

[1:52:21] earlier so that that crowd then could be involved with the entertainment and the

[1:52:25] food vendors and some of that. >> I should have brought it up before.

[1:52:29] » That's fine. So, we I I am uh been texting Johnny. He's going to come to

[1:52:33] our next meeting along with the Knights of Columbus and and uh and the Lions

[1:52:38] Club. Trying to get them all to come. Johnny's coming. Uh Knights of Columbus

[1:52:43] are coming and that's when uh we're talking about changing I want changing

[1:52:48] that time with what we had with discussion with that. Yep. You're

[1:52:52] welcome. Um so Culver's gift cards I don't I don't know. Um, so

[1:53:02] we have 57 lunches and 49 scoopies in here that are left. Um,

[1:53:11] okay. I'm going to Cassie. I had text her, ask

[1:53:17] her her wishes on what they said and she said that she would love to

[1:53:25] she would love to give it out to whatever you think, but I also would

[1:53:31] love to see the fair board take something for what they did. They did

[1:53:34] such an amazing job and didn't get paid for any of it from my understanding. I

[1:53:39] would be okay if that was split up between you guys and thanks again for

[1:53:44] everything you've done. Okay. So, otherwise the other option is

[1:53:50] too that I was looking and maybe I'm wrong, but I do not see a date on there.

[1:53:56] » You got to go ahead. >> It's a date issued but not a date of

[1:54:02] » You're saying maybe possibly lay them over till next year. I

[1:54:05] » I I'm just throwing it out there. I didn't see a date. I'm reading what

[1:54:08] she's texting. I asked her what she'd feel.

[1:54:14] » So, What would you guys like to do?

[1:54:17] » Just uh uh dumb question, but for fair board

[1:54:23] members to take a gift like that, is that I I don't think is it

[1:54:29] » I I didn't I didn't I didn't take any >> What do you

[1:54:34] say? >> No,

[1:54:35] I'm Can you take gifts and donations? Larry said county board members can't.

[1:54:40] So, that's all I was getting at.

[1:54:45] I just don't want somebody to get involved. I'm fine with laying it over

[1:54:48] till next year. I'm asking what to do. >> Well, I'm just asking for clarification

[1:54:52] because I >> Okay, so that's the clarification right

[1:54:54] way to do it. >> Yeah, she okay with going to be okay

[1:54:56] with >> Yeah, she said her whatever. She just

[1:54:59] That was a nice thing she said. That's all

[1:55:05] » it it. Thank you. It might it it might be just

[1:55:10] a a nice little thing for our per park parking crew because I mean they really

[1:55:15] ended up uh uh making getting places. They kept putting cars were places I

[1:55:23] didn't think they had to put cars. >> Well,

[1:55:26] » and the people just were streaming in, you know, so pretty good deal.

[1:55:30] » How many judges did we have total >> this year?

[1:55:35] » Uh I don't know the commercial. I don't know the answer to that.

[1:55:39] » If it'd be a nice be a nice thing if we had enough just to

[1:55:44] mail it to them for their >> we every judge got two.

[1:55:48] » Oh, already. >> Yeah. Sorry,

[1:55:50] » Michael. >> Okay.

[1:55:52] » Some where like on Facebook like if we have what was there 40 or 50 of them

[1:55:58] where you could do like some sort of weekly trivia to keep people engaged

[1:56:03] with the with our Facebook and what we're doing where we could do a weekly

[1:56:08] trivia or something and then the winner gets mailed a gift card to covers just

[1:56:14] to keep people engaged with that. it.

[1:56:22] » I I guess I >> I guess I guess the only other thing

[1:56:28] that I'd like to do is that there was five kids in particular that didn't get

[1:56:34] anything that were parking cars with you. Never asked for anything but didn't

[1:56:41] get anything. I I just thought maybe I don't I don't

[1:56:46] have a number. My number if I did, maybe it would be four. I don't know. Um but

[1:56:51] those kids um didn't ask for anything that helped us out. They didn't

[1:56:55] complain. I'm just asking and we can lay this over. It's just a suggestion.

[1:57:00] » Two of them are in the Netherlands. You could send them cards and you wouldn't

[1:57:04] have >> they got a clovers in the Netherlands.

[1:57:06] So they don't they would never get used. >> Okay. So we're down to three. Or the or

[1:57:10] the the kids that helped at 11:30 at night with Chris Cruz sound. The kids

[1:57:17] that helped. No. >> Oh, they're fun.

[1:57:21] » Well, the other two were just at my house last night and that did what the

[1:57:25] notes. >> There was a daytime group and a

[1:57:27] nighttime group and um really appreciated that guy.

[1:57:32] » Yeah. >> How about we just hold on to him till

[1:57:34] next year? >> Okay.

[1:57:36] » Is there a motion? I make a motion that we just hold on to these till next year

[1:57:40] and we can use them next year. >> Is there a second?

[1:57:44] Larry second. Oh, discussion. In favor, I

[1:57:49] » I >> post. Okay. All right. I'm going to turn

[1:57:52] this last one over to Troy and and Ben. And you want to put that up there. Okay.

[1:57:59] So, um before I do, there was a a little issue at the fair with um I'd like to

[1:58:04] not putting names, please, when you do that. So go ahead.

[1:58:07] » Thank you. >> So it was brought to our attention

[1:58:11] midway through a certain show that there was a issue that was brought up that

[1:58:17] involved a member and a adult parent of another member. And

[1:58:27] basically how it went, no fair board was a witness, but we had several witnesses

[1:58:32] around when this happened. And there was a uh needless to say there was a scene

[1:58:37] that was caused that was had foul language by the parent of this exhibitor

[1:58:45] and had several people witness this and there was a lot of

[1:58:51] » and she was throwing things >> throwing things throwing Yep. this

[1:58:55] person, this adult was throwing things and cussing and swearing about a

[1:58:59] particular rule that was >> she had tried she had tried saying that

[1:59:05] this rule was in the fair book and me and Troy did have a meeting with her

[1:59:08] afterwards um and went through the rule book and

[1:59:12] she had highlighted a bunch of >> Yep. uh which she had highlighted a

[1:59:17] bunch of rules that may have not been not been policed to a tea on these rules

[1:59:23] during the fair. So very very minor minor minor rules that didn't involve

[1:59:30] any anything that was anything that was bad just she went through the whole rule

[1:59:34] book >> kind of went with the fans hanging onto

[1:59:37] the side of the beef cuff like that off the ground. It was

[1:59:41] » Yep. are shoots that need to be taken down a half hour after the show, not an

[1:59:45] hour, like just really small small things. Um, and so after this whole

[1:59:51] scene, after the show, um, >> and we do have letters,

[1:59:55] » we do have letters >> of complaints

[1:59:57] » of complaint from different members that saw this go down. So after we had the

[2:00:03] meeting, we wanted to bring it up to the board on how we want to proceed with

[2:00:07] this because this this is something in my and Troy's opinion cannot happen at a

[2:00:11] fair with a a parent um causing foul language and having a scene at the fair,

[2:00:16] especially after even having four letters of different members that saw

[2:00:21] this happen and very very heated parents that saw this that had kids that

[2:00:26] witnessed this. um as far especially cussing and swearing and throwing things

[2:00:31] that their kid they didn't want their kids to witness.

[2:00:33] » And this is not the first time Derek and I in the past have went and had

[2:00:38] conversations with this person. So this is not like the first offense on on it.

[2:00:45] And that's why Ben and I when we went to meet with them took it pretty serious

[2:00:49] and we we were lied to a lot about like the biggest thing was like the

[2:00:56] registration papers and she was saying that people in the past have taken

[2:01:00] registration papers and who it was just all a bunch it was not the truth cuz I

[2:01:05] followed up with the people that she this person mentioned afterwards. We

[2:01:09] were lied to in the meeting directly to her face on um what she had claimed had

[2:01:16] happened and said and then we went back and we talked to those particular people

[2:01:21] superintendants and they said that is not how it happened. So we were lied to.

[2:01:26] Um and so it's it's going to the point where

[2:01:31] we need to discuss what we want to do going forward with this particular

[2:01:34] person. I'd like to say that uh um lied to I I'm I'm not sticking up for

[2:01:44] one way or the other, but there's always two sides to every story. Um so how were

[2:01:50] you as far as lie to you was saying as in

[2:01:53] » said uh so she said that she was told one thing.

[2:01:59] » Okay. And then we went to that person and asked, you know, what they had said

[2:02:05] particularly and he that superintendent said absolutely not. That's not how it

[2:02:11] happened. And it even came down to like the show, the show schedule was up on

[2:02:16] Thursday night and the show wasn't until Friday and she went and said that she

[2:02:21] talked to the superintendent before the show and by the end of the night cuz I

[2:02:26] know I knew that that was not the case and by the end of the night she turned

[2:02:30] her wheels and said it was, you know, after the show or whatever. And I'm

[2:02:34] like, hey, you had all Thursday afternoon and Friday morning, you knew

[2:02:39] what class your do or your kid was in and you if you would have talked about

[2:02:45] it ahead of time, it would have meant we could have prevented it, right? You

[2:02:48] know, but we also had the discussion with the regge papers that you can

[2:02:52] register a main that's 5%, a seml, you know, that's 5%. So it's like we're like

[2:02:58] registration papers really don't at the end of the day

[2:03:02] really don't matter because if you want to show a purebred man it can be a

[2:03:06] crossbread and only be 5% made right. So it's it was about a 2 and 1/2 hour

[2:03:13] » yep meeting >> meeting with her. Um

[2:03:17] » so um just off what you're saying um going forward not trying to speed it up

[2:03:23] but with the direct criticism so on down bottom left D county fair code of

[2:03:29] conduct I've showed you both this this falls underneath number seven

[2:03:34] » well I think it falls underneath just when I read it it falls underneath just

[2:03:38] about every I mean direct criticism or fears with the judge fear livestock and

[2:03:44] abuse of throwing Yeah.

[2:03:46] » Um, that's what I'm getting at. >> Um, and it leads us up to our discretion

[2:03:51] and what we want to do is how it pertains and you go ahead. Yeah. So, I

[2:03:56] talked to Deb at Dad Cap on, you know, how to move forward with it just to make

[2:04:01] sure that we would not get in trouble or do anything wrong. And she said as long

[2:04:06] as the rule was is not a new rule, right? It was a rule that we've already

[2:04:12] had. She goes, she will support us in any way that needs to, just as long as

[2:04:16] we don't make up a new rule. >> Yeah. And it's Yeah. And Deb at Dad Cap

[2:04:23] has been not just by me, but there was some people at our fair that actually

[2:04:29] contacted Deb at DadCap about this also. >> And going back to the line thing, um, I

[2:04:34] I get to the he said, she said deal. Um, but she had directly said that she was

[2:04:39] unaware. Nobody had contacted her on who to contact directly as far as if there

[2:04:45] was a problem. But me and Troy both had a meeting before the fair. And I

[2:04:50] deliberately looked at everybody. And I know this particular person was standing

[2:04:54] right there when I we said if you have any problems, superintendent's here,

[2:04:58] otherwise come find me or Troy. So I know that that was addressed. So as far

[2:05:03] as the line goes and one thing there is several witnesses so it's not just a he

[2:05:08] said she said thing >> and it was one of the things with

[2:05:11] » she was trying to pro you know the person that runs our open show she was

[2:05:16] saying was taking regge papers and that's like yes that is for an open show

[2:05:20] it's a completely different show and stuff and she's like no that she always

[2:05:25] did it for the fair also and I actually contacted the person that she said did

[2:05:29] it she was I've never taken registration papers for the 4H fair ever. It was only

[2:05:34] for the open show is the only thing she's ever like bringing animals in and

[2:05:39] all that. The 4 stuff she's had nothing to do with it. It was always two other

[2:05:44] individuals that have been the superintendent we have now and the prior

[2:05:47] one that has done it all. So, so I guess it's up to the board on how we want to

[2:05:52] go forward whether it's a strip reprimmend of this particular parent or

[2:05:59] you know do we go to the extent of saying you can't come to the fair and

[2:06:04] the kids can or how do we want to go about doing this as far as you know cuz

[2:06:09] there was several people that were very upset that on the scene that she had

[2:06:13] made and >> this is the third time this is this is

[2:06:16] number three >> but this is the first time has been

[2:06:19] brought to the fair board. >> Correct.

[2:06:22] » Yes. That has came to this to this level cuz you and I that was mapped back when

[2:06:27] we did >> that was mapped. That's different.

[2:06:29] » So this is the first time that it's came this far as far as this an instant an

[2:06:35] instant with this this particular person.

[2:06:41] » Next thing it says junior fair exhibitors dress cold for animal shows.

[2:06:46] uh in there more than likely tells what the dress show code is and uh you will

[2:06:54] uh follow it or you won't be able to show.

[2:06:58] And uh

[2:07:02] one of my dumbest things I've ever did in my life was send my kids into World

[2:07:07] Dairy Expo not wearing white pants and they made it halfway around the ring and

[2:07:14] they're out. So, if you're going to have rules and

[2:07:18] regulations, uh, you know, you you've got I don't

[2:07:22] think you've got anything printed on if you violate this, this is what to

[2:07:26] expect. But most often these situations uh don't

[2:07:32] fix themselves by saying, "Are you sure you're sorry?"

[2:07:38] Well, >> things like this get fixed when you say,

[2:07:42] "You've crossed the line. you're going to have to stay home next year.

[2:07:45] » Yeah. And there was there was no remorse, no,

[2:07:49] » I'm sorry I screwed up. It was like she was she was trying to she hammered on

[2:07:54] better. >> Yeah. She wanted to make a point.

[2:08:00] The the thing that uh I think where the fair

[2:08:04] board really needs to do something is if you got letters coming from fair board

[2:08:09] member or kid project members to dad cap about this situation and we don't do

[2:08:16] anything very strong action then it uh what are

[2:08:19] we here for type of deal. Correct. If we don't if we're not willing to support

[2:08:22] our kids when they're going to the point of writing letters to DACA about um an

[2:08:28] individual then >> so with that being said are we wanting

[2:08:35] to do the whole family or the >> I got a question before you get there.

[2:08:40] » Yep. >> The things that she was upset about were

[2:08:43] things that we didn't enforce. Is that what she was getting at? But we gave

[2:08:48] approval like for the fans being behind them instead of the side. So we did give

[2:08:52] approval that they could move them ahead of time. So she she just saw it and

[2:08:59] didn't ask any questions. Right. So pretty much everything that she had,

[2:09:05] » the little piddly stuff that she had was pretty much all approved. Like the

[2:09:09] shoots, they were they weren't tore down, but they were put off to the side.

[2:09:13] Right. >> Okay. The only thing that maybe um I

[2:09:18] could see some backlash there is in the fair book that they have to have regge

[2:09:23] papers, but it's gray area because say you got a steer. Okay, steer is going to

[2:09:28] get butchered no matter what or cross spread. So putting regge papers in

[2:09:32] there, it's it's hard. It's a gray area because steers half of them don't have

[2:09:36] reg papers, >> right? But that's where we also talked

[2:09:39] to her at the same time that a main only needs to be 5% to be registered. So you

[2:09:43] could ask what you know what did she blow? I guess I'm confused. What did she

[2:09:48] blow? >> I will. Okay, I'll I'll paint a picture.

[2:09:51] So there was a certain animal in a peerbred class that was entered into a

[2:09:57] class by a member who was entering for the first time ever without parents

[2:10:02] helping into the fair. Okay, so she's entering

[2:10:06] on her own. She accidentally put it in the wrong class, but it still looked

[2:10:11] like an animal that could have been a purebred. Okay. So, it it passed all the

[2:10:17] the inspections as far as this animal could be a purebred, could be uh exactly

[2:10:22] what she entered it in. >> She was mad that we didn't require regge

[2:10:27] paper and move it to the correct class and it accidentally went through the

[2:10:32] show and this particular animal won. Her animal was second.

[2:10:37] » No, her animal was third. >> Sorry. Third.

[2:10:39] » Okay. >> Um, so it would have it would have

[2:10:42] changed the placing a little bit, but that animal had to go against the whole

[2:10:46] show at the end of the day anyways. So it wouldn't have changed the placing at

[2:10:50] all. So she so the lady that was throwing the fit, she was mad that

[2:10:56] somebody else showed in the class that >> in the crossbread class that or in a

[2:11:02] purebred class that her kid was in. So technically they didn't follow the

[2:11:06] rules. That's what she's I'm not the technically that's what she's saying the

[2:11:10] fool and that's where she when she's going off on tand she's saying you don't

[2:11:13] follow these rules and okay trying to get

[2:11:16] » but at the same time this person knew the steer was coming to the Dun County

[2:11:21] Fair the whole time right cuz they they were going to purchase this steer

[2:11:26] decided not to. this other exhibitor purchased it and brought it to so it's

[2:11:33] she waited until after the fact and I told her hey if you would have came to

[2:11:37] us ahead of time none of us know it looked like it could have been a pure

[2:11:40] bred you know we don't run around check all these animals but we're like hey if

[2:11:43] you would have came to us ahead of time and been proactive about it and you

[2:11:48] would have said hey I know this information about this steer then we

[2:11:51] could have done something right you know and at the end of the day like Ben said

[2:11:56] it would not have shown ended changed the outcome of the final beef show.

[2:11:59] Anyway, >> what

[2:12:02] » did they They did not check registration on any animal, did they? In the

[2:12:06] » none of the animals have ever gotten >> checked. Never be feces, nothing have

[2:12:12] ever been checked. >> So, and that's my thing is that she knew

[2:12:19] about this steer when that steer was 400 lb, right? and knew where that it was

[2:12:24] coming there. And it was more or less after they got beat is then she is when

[2:12:31] she got mad. So she had all the opportunity in the world to be proactive

[2:12:35] about it if she knew something. Right. >> So um how many kids do they have? I

[2:12:42] don't know what family I have no idea who you're talking about.

[2:12:43] » I don't want to say anything. >> Yeah. And I don't want to know but I

[2:12:46] want they have two kids that are actively showing

[2:12:49] » will be >> well would will be

[2:12:51] » will be one >> will be

[2:12:52] » they'll be down to one. >> Yes.

[2:12:54] » Okay. >> What are what are the repercussions

[2:12:56] versus barring this individual from the show versus the whole family I guess is

[2:13:02] is uh >> that's pros and cons of each. I would

[2:13:06] think that the exhibitor themselves handles themselves in a pretty good

[2:13:10] manner. And to be honest, I think she would maybe enjoy it, be happy.

[2:13:17] » My biggest thing about >> wasn't there.

[2:13:19] » I have a hard time punishing a kid for a parent's actions.

[2:13:23] » Um, no. No.

[2:13:27] » Right. the person who commits those acts I think should be reprimanded

[2:13:32] accordingly but it shouldn't affect a 4 member who

[2:13:37] » I I got one more question before I weigh in when when did she come to you with

[2:13:43] the concerns >> she came after the fair probably two

[2:13:48] weeks after after she had already gone to the county

[2:13:52] » as she went to Randy said she went >> instead she bypassed all the fair and

[2:13:58] she went right to the county. >> Right. And the other thing too is that

[2:14:04] the daughter or the exhibitor showed somebody else's animal at the

[2:14:10] fair and came back and told them that was the most fun that I've ever had

[2:14:14] showing and it wasn't her animal like the the stress was gone. And so

[2:14:19] » I guess the the point that I would make irregardless of everything that

[2:14:23] happened, it was her conduct at the fair, her language, throwing things and

[2:14:28] things like that that I is what I really have a problem with it. you know, no

[2:14:33] matter what registration, all that stuff doesn't at the end of the day isn't

[2:14:39] what's getting her into as much, you know, the trouble as much as her the way

[2:14:45] she handled herself and the language and the that kind of stuff. That's what we

[2:14:49] can't have at the fair, that kind of stuff.

[2:14:52] » So, if we were to bar her from the fair, how do we even

[2:14:58] how would we even go? And I'm not saying that's what we should do. I'm just

[2:15:01] asking a question as a group. How if we ever barred someone from the fair, how

[2:15:05] would we even enforce that? >> Well, we could talk like I could talk

[2:15:08] with Deb at Dag Cap and she said that we can and she would support us in any way,

[2:15:13] but I don't know how like but you you could all you could say is

[2:15:18] that a little bit is that it happens say in the beef barn, right? Is that she's

[2:15:23] not allowed, you know, in the in the beef barn,

[2:15:27] right? I don't. >> So, here was another

[2:15:30] » recommendation that came from the superintendent. Um, and this

[2:15:34] superintendent, he had said, "Yeah, same thing as me and Troy talked about, it's

[2:15:40] a hard hard time banning a member for a parent's actions, which I totally agree.

[2:15:47] But what if you allow that family back, but yet you put a strict gig order, so

[2:15:55] to speak, that you are not allowed to have a single scene or we are the fair

[2:16:00] board is allowed to withhold your check from the auction. And I know that's we

[2:16:05] can't do that. We can't do that because with map on the map side and fair board,

[2:16:09] we're not together anymore. We're two completely different identities. So that

[2:16:13] ain't going to work. I would just say my opinion is that I

[2:16:18] think you can let her come to the fair. You just ban her from

[2:16:23] the area that causes cuz there they do other projects and there's never issues,

[2:16:28] right? The only issue ever is is in the beef barn. So I think if you banned her

[2:16:32] from >> But how would you force that? I mean

[2:16:35] » I am pretty sure that we could get phone calls real quick if somebody stepped in

[2:16:39] the beef barn, >> right? But but how do we enforce that?

[2:16:41] We calling the cops. >> Sure. That that's that's what I'm asking

[2:16:45] is what >> right that's what I'm asking is are we

[2:16:49] willing to do that >> I guess uh I would lean on deap a little

[2:16:54] bit as far as I'm sure they've had situations like this in the past

[2:16:58] » you know what exactly do they do and how do they do it

[2:17:02] » and I can call I can call de >> we could maybe table this for a month

[2:17:06] and come back with more information on that too

[2:17:08] » as long as everybody's aware of what's going on that there is a situation at at

[2:17:13] hand. And it does. I I mean, and like Ben and I when we we went into this

[2:17:18] meeting, it's like, >> man, I really hope she's sorry and

[2:17:24] everything and remorseful for what happened and everything. And we sat down

[2:17:29] on those tables and I'm just like I looked at Ben, I just bite your tongue

[2:17:33] and let her let her out. There's there's in my opinion it's one thing to come at

[2:17:38] the fair board and say if you got an issue with a particular rule and come to

[2:17:42] us and complain about it, but it's another to go and make a scene in front

[2:17:46] of a bunch of members. That's where I really draw the line. And I told her,

[2:17:50] you know, hey, you if you have issues, you can come grab Ben and I and we can

[2:17:55] have a discussion. We don't need to do it in front of everybody. Right.

[2:17:58] » Was that a motion? By the way, Dave, I'm sorry if I didn't catch it. I would like

[2:18:03] to make a motion to table it and uh get some further background information

[2:18:09] before we make a decision till next meeting.

[2:18:11] » Is there a second? >> I'll second it.

[2:18:14] » Discussion. >> There's no discussion.

[2:18:16] » Oh, wait. There's not. Sorry. All right. Motion is tabled till motion is table.

[2:18:23] » Yep. Till next. All in favor? >> I

[2:18:26] » opposed. Okay. Motion carries. Next meeting.

[2:18:31] Um, okay. Consideration the report resolutions ordinance to recommend it to

[2:18:36] the county board. Nothing. Okay. Next meeting October 5th

[2:18:42] at 5:00

[2:18:46] and the it is adjourned. >> I will not be able to

[2:18:52] » Okay.

Dunn County Fair Board Meeting - 08/31/2026

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